Talk:Sev'rance Tann

Chiss?
Granted, she's blue-skinned and red-eyed, but is she ever explicitly named as a Chiss? --SparqMan 15:13, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't think so, but isn't it a logical deduction? By the way, I thought she killed Drakas on Sarapin?--Fade 15:44, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I guess it's logical, just curious if it was ever said. Also, she refers to Dooku as "Master", so is it safe to assume she was his apprentice, or could it be that she uses the term as a title like a Jedi refering to Yoda as "Master Yoda" despite not having been his padawan. On Drakas: I don't recall, but I know the forces you fight on the platform are led by Drakas. --SparqMan 16:39, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't think she was Dooku's apprentice, as that would make her Sith, thus breaking the rule of two. It's probably just a title, as you suggested. She's probably similar is some respects to Asajj. I'll have to check on Drakas. --Fade 17:33, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Side note: General Grievous was Dooku's apprentice, even if it was only in lightsaber combat, and he wasn't even Force-sensitive. So an apprentice of Dooku wouldn't have to be Sith. – Aidje talk 03:06, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * It seems Jor Drakas does die on Sarapin. One thing I've thought odd since I saw this article, though, is that in the game, Sev'Rance is spelt that way, with a capital R. From what I gather of the rest of the Chiss, such as Thrawn, is that after the apostraphe there isn't another capital letter. I take it this was the reasoning in naming Sev'rance with lower case on the encyclopaedia. --Fade 17:33, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Dooku could have taken her on as a Dark Side apprentice, and not a Sith apprentice. Both Vader and Palpatine took on several Dark Side apprentices during their post-Republic days, so it's far to consider it that way. I didn't even notice the spelling. We should do what the game does, unless another source says otherwise. --SparqMan 19:52, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I didn't know Dark Side subordinates were referrred to as apprentices...the boundry between Dark Jedi and Sith seems to have been made incredibly vague. Asajj isn'e referred to as an apprentice in her article either *shrug*. Anyway, I'm not sure whether to change the spelling, because it seems like the source got Chiss naming conventions wrong...but it's still the source...confusing. --Fade 10:00, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Dark Jedi are Jedi who fall to the Dark Side and use anger, rage, jealousy, etc. to drive their powers. Sometimes they pickup a few extra tricks. Sith have a cache of secret techniques that they have cultivated over thousands of years. Asajj pretended to be a Sith, and desperately wanted Dooku to teach her, but he did not. --SparqMan 12:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Blade color
Can anyone check on the color of Tann's lightsaber blade? I seem to recall it being gold. Additionally, the way she holds her blade (sideways-ish) looks like Dooku's Form II style -- but that might be a stretch. --SparqMan 02:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * The Game gives her a yellow blade. And since she was trained in lightsaber fighting solely by Dooku, its a good guess to say she's a Form II practicioner (but not an expert). QuentinGeorge 06:19, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Urgh, yes it is yellow, but personally I dislike the EU blade colours when they appear around the movies. I mean, how convienient is it that all the Jedi to appear on screen have 'normal' blade colours? Not to mention that even characters that were given different colours in EU ended up with normal colours on screen. Anyway, rant over. --Fade 10:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * A good explanation of the standardized blade color for many Jedi is that the 32-25 BBY era that is covered is a peak of the Jedi Order's formalization and conservatism. It is likely that most of the Jedi created their lightsabers in similar processes, using similar materials and similar instruction, as opposed to the very early or post-Republic Jedi that were much more on their own. --SparqMan 13:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * But you also end up with (according to Jedi Power Battles) Plo Koon having a yellow saber during Phantom Menace, and Jor Drakas having a yellow saber during the Clone Wars, etc. Just seems rather stupid of the EU to give Jedi different saber colours during a time when we practically know them all to be tha same (save for Mace's). The only 'real' explanation is that it's there for variety, in which case it's a safe bet that Sev'rance would have a red saber if she were to appear in film, just as Plo Koon ended up with a 'normal' colour. --Fade 13:48, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Ah, I misunderstood your original rant. That's even easier to explain. We don't "practically know" that they're all the same -- the movies only show a small fraction of the Jedi Order. Further, the ones we are shown seem to be highly interconnected; the "ruling" clique of the Order. It makes plenty of sense that Jedi further from the those Jedi would have a greater variety of blades. As far as the Sith consistently using red blades, the same logic follows. Palpatine's line of Sith successors were all trained by him, and thus followed his teachings, techniques, etc. that led to red blades. We know from several sources that Jedi like Corran Horn, Leia and a couple other characters built their sabers with specific qualities in mind, and the blade color was a mere side effect of the gems and power systems used. --SparqMan 13:57, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I dunno, it seems pretty shakey to me- after all, we've seen a few hundred Jedi in the films already, and all (bar one) have 'normal' colours. Anyway, If Sev'rance is Dooku's general, wouldn't she have a red saber, just like Asajj? Anyway, I'll stop ranting now...I think. I might not. Who knows? --Fade 14:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Apprentice is a term that can take on many meanings. As stated above, she could be a Dark Side apprentice of Dooku, but not his Sith apprentice. --SparqMan 14:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * But Asajj wasn't a Sith apprentice, either, otherwise the rule of two would be broken. --Fade 15:05, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Correct: Asajj was particularly un-Sith in that Dooku refused to train her in the Sith techniques. Her red blades were a gift from Dooku, so he probably made them using the same techniques as his own. --SparqMan 15:13, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Homeworld

 * Do we have any explicit reason to think her homeworld is Csilla? The reason I ask is, Geonosis and the Outer Rim Worlds explicitly mentions that Thule had Chiss residents, and that "Several near-Human species who remained undiscovered by the larger galaxy until the Rebellion (or later) had a number of representatives on Thule under Sith rule during the Old Republic."  This sounds like a much more likely homeworld to me. jSarek 21:33, 17 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, until we have solid proof, why not just remove Csilla and put "Unknown" as the homeworld. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 21:34, 17 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Dark Jedi?
I'll be the first to admit that I'm not up on all my Prequel stuff, but if she was only trained by Dooku/Tyranus after he left the Jedi, can she be counted as a Dark Jedi at all and not, say, a Dark Side Adept or something like that? Just wondering... Thanos6 13:40, 8 Nov 2005 (UTC)