Talk:Darth Nihilus

'Force Channeling Mask'?
Is there more info on this?Tocneppil 21:58, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Uncertainty concerning events on the ravager
In the Jedi Vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force it is said that either Nihilus killed/was killed by Visas or was killed by Brianna. I don't understand why exactly this point is not clear. As far as I know the book is "In-Universe", but why would the real authors describe the event so vaguely? Nanook 00:01, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Dreadlocks?
I was browsing the Rebelscum forums, and in the thread for the 'Sith Legacy' Evolutions pack, there are pictures showing that Nihilus' hood is removable, and he seems to have dreadlocks! http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=hasbro30th&Number=3081301&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=5 Sith Alchemy 101 15:29, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Data Problem
We have a confict here. According to the article:

"Although his role in the wars is a mystery, it is very likely that he may have been among the faction of Jedi that defied the Jedi Council and followed Revan to war."

However, according to the side-bar he was affiliated with the Jedi, the Revanchists, etc.

Thoughts? Holokin 06:22, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * "Jedi" and "The Revanchists" should be removed unless he's revealed to have been one. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 11:16, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank God, somebody finally removed that! I removed those two organizations from the infobox quite a few times, and somebody kept putting them back up there.--Jedi Kasra 04:30, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Probably Human

 * I'm not sure if anyone else has commented on this before, but I've noticed that in one image - the one in which Nihilus is fighting Atris - that Nihilus has bare arms (Fig. 1). Since it's concept art it may not have a great influence on anything at all, as it may be considered non-canon, but nevertheless I think it shows that Nihilus may be a bit more Human than some people have been speculating (and I admit that I previously made a suggestion that he may be Sith). As the image only shows the underside of his hand clearly - which has the same pigmentation for all Humans regardless of ethnicity - it's difficult to come to any further conclusions on this. However, by looking at his nose in another picture (Fig.2); which has a clearly brown coloring, and taking into consideration the dreadlocks on the Hasbro toy, I'd say it's fairly likely that Nihilus either is - or was planned to be - a dark skinned Human. --Kessel 21:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Very interesting about Fig 1...for Fig 2, I've always assumed that he had a black cloth covering his face. BTW, I've sourced the images.  Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 22:08, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Could someone post a pic here of the action figure with its hood removed. - –K.A.J•T•C•E• 22:10, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Link to Rebelscum.com Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 22:13, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It seems like he's a Kiffar. It's just speculation, but his dreadlocks remind me of Quinlan Vos's dreadlocks. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 23:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * We cannot deduce that he's a Kiffar because of his dreadlocks. First of all, if we knew his canon face we would see the yellow marking, but even that wouldn't be enough. Maybe some evident telemetric ability would help us more. Coming to think of it, that's all just speculation that do not belong to a Wook talk page. Nanook 00:08, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, Jariah Syn has dreadlocks, though he's not Kiffar. Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 01:51, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I know we can't just say he's a Kiffar. I was just making an observation. My phrasing was not the best. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 02:27, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I understand what you meant; I was just saying that having dreadlocks doesn't mean he was necessarily Kiffar. The darker skin in the first picture could be just the lighting.  Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 02:30, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, I've reconsidered. I believe it unlikely that he's a Kiffar (or any other subrace to be frank), as so far Nihilus has shown no cultural links or any evidence of psychometry. Thus, designating him as such would only really detract from his character without adding anything worthwhile: for a start it would have to be explained why a) the designers had made him a Kiffar yet made little use of this obscure detail, and b) made use of a species which does not enter into Republic history for another 961 years.
 * Nihilus does not seem to be a Kiffu before his time (all the ones we have heard of are from the Rise of the Empire era). Thus, I can only assume that Nihilus is, like Sion and Kreia, "just a man - nothing more". --Kessel 10:25, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * At least this is the end of the Zayne/Nihilus fanshit. - –K.A.J•T•C•E• 11:37, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Also, does anyone know if "a man, nothing more" is confirmed to be canon, instead of "a thousand graveyard planets and an eternity of hate and hunger"? Drewton  ( Drewton's Holocron ) 14:23, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Oops, didn't know that the Kiffar didn't appear in galactic society around 3,000 BBY. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 14:05, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Since the Exile is officially light side, we generally consider the light-side option to be canon. --Kessel 13:47, 25 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I've played as a light-sider, and it's dependant on what you ask, not what side of the Force you are on. I've gotten both answers from Visas.--Jedi Kasra 00:39, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Again, this is like the silly argument that Revan was canonically a white bald guy because his action figure is a white bald man. It's just a figure, and they needed to make something to fill the quota, instead of just putting nothing there for a head. Hasbro makes a toy, and it may be canon? Guys... seriously? I suppose Darth Vader had a pink lightsaber and Malak had yellow on his armor? Information on the back of figure boxes is generally canon, but the figures themselves? Not necessarily so.--Jedi Kasra 00:39, 26 May 2008 (UTC)