Talk:Ahsoka Tano/Legends

Dual Lightsabers
In season 3 Ahsoka begins carrying a second lightsaber with her "to better defend herself", as her Clone Card on the official Star Wars website puts it. This should be added to the information in the Lightsaber section, should it not? 173.180.89.129 08:22, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Lightsaber training-Ataru disinformation
Greetings, I have noticed that in a few articles, namely in Ahsokas and Anakins, is a part stating that Ahsoka recived lightsaber training in the form IV Ataru. And the reference to this is a novel "Wild Space" by Karen Miller. I have read this novel and this information is wrong. In the novel there is a sceen where Ashoka trains with Anakin (He trains her in form VI Niman) and tels her to do 50 repetitions of the basic form level 1 of Niman. Now after she is done he spars with Obi-Wan and they both use form IV Ataru, Ahsoka and several other jedi watch them. Now mere watching can't be called training, just as I can't say I train tenis if I go and watch a game of it. I do not know of any other source stating that Ashoka actually gets training in it. If you can't find something canon, then this has to be changed. I asume someone made a mistake or didn't pay attention. I hope you will change this, I didn't change it myself because there might be some other source I don't know of and since this acc is new someone might think it's spam. Thank you for your attention --Hitsuji-V 14:39, January 15, 2011 (UTC)Hitsuji-V
 * I haven't read the material in question, but your argument is faulty. It sounds to me like Anakin was supervising a sparring session that his padawan is involved in.  That's like saying a football coach isn't coaching when he is observing a scrimmage. Darth Adonis 03:06, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Maybe I didn't describe it good enuf, I went through book again to make sure it's corect, Ahsoka is not involved in sparing. The scene starts with Anakin and Ahsoka arguing, she did something bad while training, afterwards Anakin tells her to do Niman form level 1 alone (If you are familiar with martial arts a form in this context is like a kata in karate, a fight with imaginary oponent (something like shadow boxing in boxing), sword scools have them too). She does this alone and a remote records it so they can watch it later for review. And Anakin is on Balcony watching her together with Obi-Wan. When she is done Obi-Wan takes her training saber to spar with Anakin (to demonstrate high level techniques) and Ahsoka goes to balcony to watch them and several other knights and padawans come to watch them as well. Now it is stated specificaly twice that Ahsoka is doing Niman. And it is also stated that Anakin and Obi-Wan use Ataru while sparing with each other. But it is newer mentioned or implied that Ahsoka does Ataru. --Hitsuji-V 16:27, January 17, 2011 (UTC)Hitsuji-V
 * i have never read the novel, but i don't think you would lie about this. Ralphjedimaster 16:30, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Putting Her Future Self Image Into the Article
i think we should put a image of Ahsoka's future self from Overlords into the Mission To Mortis section since some of us were wondering what Ahsoka would look like when she is Shaak Ti's age. If anyone wishes to object or not, you are free to do so.
 * If there's room for an image, sure. But it would be better if the image included both "older" Ahsoka and younger Ahsoka in the same frame. And I would caution against assuming that the "older" Ahsoka we saw is really what she'll grow up to look like. That creature could have just made something up. Besides, we don't even know if Ahsoka lives to adulthood or not. ~ SavageBob 17:40, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

In the words of Master Yoda: " Always in motion is the future" We don't even know if the Ahsoka will reach that age, as we don't know her ultimate future. Should could reach the age as seen in her vision, or she might be struck down in Order 66.-- 19:11, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Death in Altar of Mortis
Ahsoka dies, briefly, in Altar of Mortis and is immediatly resurected by the Daughter. Altough she didnt stay dead, should we still list this as a Date of Death, since several other articles list dates of temporary deaths (ie Darth Krayt). --The Great and Grand Count Mall!(Bow down before me!) 05:24, February 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't think she actually died. I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Anakin said she was dying Korsa3 05:30, February 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * The episode guide does not say anything, and at the moment any addition such as that would be considered speculation.  JangFett  (Talk) 05:40, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Somebody DID add a death date. Also, there seems to be two Ahsoka articles, because the other one didn't have a talk page and I had thought this talk page was deleted so I made it. Was a bit confused on that one. Wondered where the 1000+ posts had gone. Not that I have a problem with two Ahsoka pages. It might actually help her cause (LOL). MongooseLover (talk) 19:57, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) You edited the talk page of a redirect. Ahsoka redirects to Ahsoka Tano. 2) There aren't 1000+ posts on the talk page. 3) This particular conversation thread is over a year old, and there's no point responding to it. Cade   Calrayn  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 20:04, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Addition to personality and traits
Think we should mention in the article about how she acted when she was briefly turned to the darkside? I mean she acted like Harley Quin and hated being called snips, the latter at least desreves a mention I just think it would be good to add it in to further expand the article (Evil-Tree 15:23, February 5, 2011 (UTC))
 * I think her behavior should get a mention. Alot of detail should be avoided, though, because it is speculation how much of that was Ahsoka and how much was purely the Son's influence.--The Great and Grand Count Mall!(Bow down before me!) 02:22, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Addition to masters section
I think we should put Son in the masters section as Ahsoka's dark side master becuase after Son bit Ahsoka, she acted like a servant to him. If anyone wishes to object or agree, you are free to do so.
 * It will be regarded as speculation, unless it's confirmed by an official source.  JangFett  (Talk) 04:48, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * But isn't most things speculation. I mean, the way Obi - Wan looks is speculation the same this master thing is because we see it. A source has to say in words his skin is this, hair is that etc... I agree with 121.212.129.139. --Ca'nara ne gotal'u mirjahaal - shi gotal'u hastaal. User: Laney97 16:40, March 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Please take a look at our policy regarding this. Speculation has no place within articles. Thank you for your cooperation.  JangFett  (Talk) 16:53, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

it's about time
i think now that several new episodes have aired, it's about time someone changed her profile pic to one of her in her new outfit (i can't do it, as i don't know how to upload pics). Ralphjedimaster 20:27, February 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * There has to be a vote between the current pic, and the proposed one(s) you'd like it to be changed to. Korsa3 23:07, February 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Right. If someone can find a good picture of her in the new duds and upload it, we should have folks here choose between them. ~ SavageBob 23:56, February 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * it looks like someone didn't know that and changed it anyway. take a look. Ralphjedimaster 03:45, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * That shouldn't have been done. Popular/Main characters aren't suppose to have their info box pic changed without a vote. There was argument about this for Han's page I believeKorsa3 21:21, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks like JMAS changed it. You'll have to speak with him about it. There is also some discussion about changing the picture further up on this very page. Might want to read it.  OLIOSTER  (talk) 21:32, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not a question of popularity. For those who may not know, there was a dispute before about the non-CGI artist drawn Ahsoka and the CGI one, which had to be settled via vote. JMAS' replacement of the infobox image for the article was by no means wrong. The previous image of Ahsoka was due for a change. I think it's best if we let it go to avoid any redundant arguments.  JangFett  (Talk) 21:38, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Just to address any confusion here: while yes, infobox images are put to a vote when there are multiple candidates, more recent images of a character at an older age automatically supersede any "younger" images, regardless of whether they were picked by the community. We don't have an image of Luke Skywalker as a baby, and we don't show Obi-Wan Kenobi as a Padawan in their infobox images; that just wouldn't be proper. One of the few exceptions is Anakin Skywalker, whose image was voted on a while ago to specifically show his younger, more choice-driven self. So here, the "oldest" image we have of Ahsoka is the best fit, as it shows her at the most mature stage we currently know.  CC7567  (talk) 05:34, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

2.2 Updated with new information
Someone really needs to finish writing about Ahsoka's role in the Mortis arch and then add The Citadel in. I would do it, but I don't know how, and I can't write very well :)--99.181.152.102 02:59, March 1, 2011 (UTC)KoonTano Also someone needs to add and update this article with information from the "Slaves of the Republic" tv story arc, the "A Friend in Need" episode, and the "Rako Hardeen" TV story arc. everytime i try to add the information, it is deleted  right away. I mean i put down the source in the sections i put in and then they are deleteted. The article needs to be up to date by now, especially when we are close to the end of the 4th season.--CC-1990 21:05, February 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Anyone is welcome to do it. However, I'll most likely add what I can into the article, as I am currently writing Citadel information in both Echo and Five's articles.  JangFett  (Talk) 03:02, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

Content approaching
The season 2 + 3 entries have already been done so maybe it's time to refresh this bar While the episodes have been written up, articles like Wind Raider's of Taloraan, No Prisoners and The Valsedian operation have't even started to be written Maybe a redo is in order to keep editors focused on these topic that have been forgoten Evil-Tree 17:24, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Birthdate?
Maybe I'm missing something, but if Tano's birthdate of 35 BBY is correct, wouldn't that make her, uh, six or seven years old by the time of The Clone Wars? Grand Admiral Sean8 23:48, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

No, 35 - 21 equals 14. If Ahsoka was seven years old, that would be 28 bby. --Uded00

I apologize for wasting everyone's time. I was posting after surgery and was still under the influence of painkillers. 75.70.2.222 04:12, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, the smaller the number, the closer we are to the Battle of Yavin. So, to figure out some one's age in the Star Wars Universe; you subtract the current year from their birth date. E.g. Anakin was born in 42 BBY and the year is 21 BBY, so he is 21. That is because 42-21= 21. Simple math. So, 35-21= 14. So Ahsoka's 14--184.36.251.193 19:35, October 9, 2011 (UTC).

Shyriiwook speaker?
I think it would be important to put under Ahsoka's abilities that she can speak or at least understands Shyriiwook. She clearly demonstrates this while talking to Chewbacca. I wanted to mentioned this before I added this and just to find out that I couldn't. - Drgns007 04:33, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Be bold, and add it to the P&T then.  JangFett  (Talk) 04:59, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree, but from what we know she can understand Shyriiwook but there's no evidence to say she can speak it. Saying she understands it would be the right edit. Evil-Tree 07:50, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * As a reminder, no one needs permission to edit in these articles. You may insert any new information, and properly source it, without having to make a discussion talk item.  JangFett  (Talk) 13:15, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Beginning "Bio" info seriously needs updating!
Ok, the info on her bio at the beginning (The beginning section that ends with her saving some children from the Emperor's new order, that should include the reason of season 2 and season 3 info.

This does pertain to the article editing, not Ahsoka herself. --138.87.151.169 02:12, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

New Infobox Picture


I really think that this picture, should be the new infobox picture. It shows an accurate and detailed picture, as well as her in action. I personally think that the background also makes her stand out, quite alot.
 * I'd call the background and the lightsabers a very distracting thing in that image. I agree however that the infobox image should be replaced by one more recent, if a good one can be found. 1358  (Talk)  10:00, September 28, 2011 (UTC)



I think this picture would be better. --Drgns007 19:01, October 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * The suggested picture is OK in my opinion Skywalker here[Skyguy007]  10:17, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Slaves of the republic continuities
How will the article be reorganized after the slaves of the republic arc from TCW finishes off? Because the comics and TV series will contradict one-another, and it can't be two separate instances because it wouldn't make sense and the queen dies anyway.... Skywalker here[Skyguy007] 06:56, December 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd recommend seeing Forum:SH:So, Slaves of the Republic., where the resolution is currently to give the episodes canonical precedence.  CC7567  (talk) 08:06, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Pic suggestion
I know that the issue of which images to include or not include in the article seems a perennial topic on this talk page, but I thought I'd mention that this image, from the Clone Wars miniatures set, is a canon, more realistic version of this one. Considering 90% of the images on the page are CG ones from the cartoon, I wouldn't mind seeing the more realistic one replace its CG counterpart in this case. Just a thought. ~ Savage  18:22, December 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think it would be silly to replace an easily recognizable image from the television series with the miniatures set artwork. I'd rather see The Clone Wars-related articles and/or sections with images from The Clones Wars show. In fact, I think the picture we have now is fine, though that's of course just my opinion on the matter. // ~mikah~  23:17, December 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * He wasn't talking about replacing the infobox image. He was just making a suggestions for replacing one of the other CGI images in the article, for some image diversity. I say go for it Bob, as long as you can find another article to house the image you propose replacing. -  JMAS  Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 23:20, December 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Exactly -- I just think some non-CG versions of Ahsoka would be nice, since she does have a life outside the cartoon. I'll see what I can do once finals are over. ~ Savage BOB sig.png 02:47, December 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * i think there should be a section about her relationships she recently just kissed or got kissed by Lux Bonteri there should be atleast a small section about it

Ahsoka's Powers and Abilities
Let's not forget that Ahsoka's skills in dual-blade combat were enough to fight two Jedi Master of Obi-Wan's caliber and a Jedi Knight of Anakin's caliber when she briefly turned to the dark side on Mortis, as well as many Separatist droids. It is possible that during her brief turn to the dark side that she had a basic usage of Force Rage, such as when she was enraged by Anakin's taunts. Also, she has an affinity in the use of Force Visions, such as when she predicted Senator Amidala's death at the hands of Aurra Sing. The fact that her telekinesis is strong enough and precise enough to pull down that huge stone wall during the Battle of Christophsis while perfectly missing Anakin through that hole in it. I tried to add these changes, but the notifications would not let me. Can someone help me out?

Fanon?
why does this redirect to fanon? 24.125.93.50 01:50, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Please note our new policy.&mdash; Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 01:52, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * There is no new policy as you describe. What you refer to is one that allows Fanon to be CONSIDERED while making canon, nothing more.  That gives Lucas and Co. license to use Fan stuff in canon, and for damned sure not the other way around.  I hope all these redirects will be fixed on april 2nd; this isn't the only page suffering.
 * We care less if the Ahsoka article is suffering. This is all real.  JangFett  (Talk) 15:57, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * JangFett I know you and other flat out hate Ahsoka and the clonewars but to do this is sick and awfull. Ya'll don't even say why you hate her or the show and it is people like you why Starwars is slowy dying and Geroge Lucus has even said he won't make any more starwars stuff. I hope your happy...--Darthahsokaboyfrenidfett 19:33, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

Eyes
Shouldn't her dark side eyes be put in the infobox? Even though she was under the Son's influence, her eyes still changed color. --Emperordmb 10:31, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

Question
I know I should not ask about her fate, but I was just wondering something. The Warning template at the top of the page says to "please stop asking". Have there been any cases of Wookieepedia users asking about Ahsoka's fate? I know that this is NOT a forum, but I am just curious. Please don't block me. I promise NOT to ask about her fate. NikanaStarkiller 00:13, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Masters
Should the Son be cnsidered to be one of Ahsoka's master?--Darthahsokaboyfrenidfett 19:37, April 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not confirmed  JangFett  (Talk) 21:57, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Season 4 content
Why is new information from Season 4 of the clone wars is being deleted? Should there be information on stuff like, the battle of Kadavo, the republic-separatist peace conference, and the naboo light festival? These events should be include in on Ahsoka's page since season 4 is over. Unless wookiepedia is waiting for Leland Chee to decide how to set things up.--CC-1990 13:24, May 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Please refer to your talk page, CC-1990. You've been told quite a few times about your grammar and tense shifting.  JangFett  (Talk) 18:03, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

Vader vs Tano
Where does this picture come from, I have not seen it anywhere else but on this article. I would like to think that if they met after Anakin's fall to the Dark Side, George Lucas or Dave Filoni would say something about it. Please let me know. 75.89.54.2 07:53, July 26, 2012 (UTC) All I am saying is that if this is just art work, such as the picture of Aayla Secura's breasts that is on one article, why have this artwork be part of Ahsoka's. I think this falls under "Changes to the Article Discussion" don't you? 75.89.54.2 08:03, July 26, 2012 (UTC) Yes, I meant for my first question to lead into my second, but I am with you on removing the section and picture. The Clone Wars TV Series is not over yet and there is no evidence to say if she survived order 66 or not. 75.89.54.2 08:36, July 26, 2012 (UTC) Okay I am glad we got this cleared up. Matt Seay (talk) 23:20, July 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Star Wars: Visions.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 07:55, July 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * This page is for discussing changes to the article, fot answering questions about the subject. Please direct further questions to the Knowledge Bank. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 07:58, July 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Your initial question was phrased as a general "where is this from?", a type of question that belongs in the KB. However, I would tend to agree with your sentiment, as the idea of utilizing Visions paintings relies as IU relies on them being blatantly canonically plausible. I believe the image and that section should be removed from the article because the existence of the artwork in a book that also contains non-canon material is not enough to say she didn't die. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 08:31, July 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * I was reminded of a similar painting of Aayla Secura and Darth Talon fighting and this is an identical case. I removed the section. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 23:11, July 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Wook! NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 23:31, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

Updates
I think this article needs to have information on episodes after Zygerria because then it is not really up to date. 149.135.146.88 07:35, August 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * It is marked as not up to date. Be BOLD? NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 09:17, August 24, 2012 (UTC)

Masters
In the "Masters" section, I think that Terra Sinube, Aayla Secura and Luminara Unduli be placed as informal mentors as they all had taught Tano something at some stage in the series. 120.144.71.148 06:34, September 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * To be listed as a Master, the relationship has to be official, protracted, or extraordinarily influential. Simply teaching someone something does not qualify, even for an informal case. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 06:50, September 6, 2012 (UTC)

Master
Yoda should be added in the masters section on the infobox as an initiate teacher. 120.144.71.148 00:51, September 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not confirmed.  JangFett  (Talk) 02:05, September 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * In the article it does mention she was tutored by Yoda in sand levitation when she was an initiate. Does that not at least make you think he was a master to her of some sort? 58.166.39.74 06:25, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

On the poster for Season 5
I noticed Ahsoka on the "Who will fall?" poster for Season 5. Though it didn't say that she would die, it now opens that possibility officially. Also, Ventress was added to that poster, yet I thought she is listed on Wookipedia as going off into the Unknown Regions, so clearly she can't fall, so why is she in there? 138.87.145.214 18:56, October 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * We don't know. Be patient and watch this season. Please also pay attention to the AhsokaTalk header at the top of this page.  CC7567  (talk) 21:23, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Cofirmd death in The Clone Wars
In the Star Wars The Clone Wars Google+ hangout Ashley Eckstein openly stated that her charecter Ahsoka will die at the end of the series, they however did not say if it will be in this season or in an upcoming season if it is planned. --Darth-reno (talk) 19:56, February 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. Do you have proof? ~ Savage BOB sig.png 20:31, February 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * The proof is in the video uploaded to the Star Wars YouTube channel, here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QwMMpqsPYTk. i hope this is proof enough. --Darth-reno (talk) 19:32, February 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Nothing explicit was nailed down at the Google Hangout. We still need to wait for official confirmation from a licensed source to pin down the character's future.  CC7567  (talk) 02:48, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

She did NOT say Ahsoka would die. I watched the video myself. 138.87.141.18 00:30, March 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, she did, but she did not say when or what season, so it still doesn't affect this until we know a time. 02:03, March 2, 2013 (PST)

Also, I think she was talking about the death of Satine, which was indeed very moving. Satine's "I've always loved you Obi-wan Kenobi." 138.87.141.18 01:11, March 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * I watched it; they made it pretty clear that Ahsoka was going to die in the series, but it wasn't explicit, so let's just hold off on adding anything for the moment. Tomari7 (talk) 02:30, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

What do you mean they made it pretty clear but it wasn't explicit? Did they say she would die or not?138.87.141.18 02:56, March 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Please adhere to the Talkheader and AhsokaTalk templates on the top of this page. We are not a forum nor are we youtube.  JangFett  (Talk) 02:57, March 2, 2013 (UTC)