Talk:Jarael

Race
We were discussing this over at Talk:Perero. The author was quoted as saying that both Perero and Jarael were in fact Arkanian, but were some sort of near-human hybrid, thus explaining their hands. He wouldn't go into detail for the sake of the story, though. Personally, I think they should be reverted to being listed as Arkanian. Lonnyd 02:24, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
 * As a matter of fact, I'm going to revert this (and Perero) on monday, unless there are significant objections. Basically, you're arguing with the author.  Take it up with him. Lonnyd 03:59, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
 * And if you revert it, then I'll keep reverting it back and eventually get an admin to lock it...or alternatively wait until I become on and then lock it myself. Canonically, they are not Arkanian until stated as such in a fully licensed source. If they didn't contradict so much about the Arkanians, then I would be fine with it but, as they do, I will object heavily. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 04:15, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with Jaymach. - Breathesgelatin 04:24, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
 * All right, fine with me, I'm not in for an edit war, but I think this is a bit silly. You can't take the author's word?  Basically you're saying we must wait for her to say "I'm an Arkanian but my mom's dad was from Coruscant, if you're wondering about why I have five fingers." Lonnyd 08:45, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Also, If Abel G Pena's blog is a good enough source for here, why isn't JJM's? Lonnyd 17:52, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * What do we have in articles from Abel's blog? Anything that's only stated there, should only be put in the Behind the scenes sections, exactly the same as we've done for the 12 Grand Admiral's Star Destroyers. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 17:59, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, for one, Ailyn Vel, and no, I'm not talking about the BTS section. Also, I saw on your page that you have the Guide to Aliens or whatever its called.  Does it state in there that Arkanians have no pupils?  Because JJM says he saw that as a "matter of interpretation."  I was just wondering if he was was wrong. Lonnyd 18:18, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Uh...what's on Ailyn's page that wasn't already explained in the Mandalorian article in Insider 80? I can't see anything that wasn't covered there personally. As for quotes...see below. :) &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 18:52, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Is it safe to say that since she and Camper are designated as Arkanian offshoot by the droid in issue 13 that this would be the proper species designation? Or, to follow a more conventional naming system classify the pair as near-Arkanians ?

Arkanian traits
"Arkanians are a robust near-Human species that are primarily distinguished from baseline Humans by their white, seemingly pupilless eyes and their four-fingered, clawed hands."

- Alien Anthology, page 057.

"They are differentiated from humans by their solid-white eyes, four-fingered, clawed hands, and impressive stamina."

- The Essential Guide to Alien Species, page 7.

"Arkanians can be distinguished from baseline humans by their milky white eyes and four-fingered, clawed hands."

- The Essential Guide to Planets and Moons, pages 26 & 27.

"He turned in a slow circle, displaying the elaborate robes, long-haired wig, and white contact lenses he wore as part of his disguise. "Everything in place? "Very Arkanian," Leia said. "Just don't draw attention to your hands. That little finger still looks too thick.""

- The Swarm War

"Arkanians are a robust near-Human species with solid white eyes and clawed, four-fingered hands."

- Ultimate Alien Anthology, page 16.

Image
http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/comics/swkotor9.jpg&text=STAR%20WARS:%20KNIGHTS%20OF%20THE%20OLD%20REPUBLIC%209

This one is way better, no ?
 * Yes. - Breathesgelatin 23:40, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The image is edited... I thought we didn't accept fan-edited images. - Sikon [ Talk ] 07:43, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Are you sure? It's a very common practice for comic book publishers to release cover art without the text & logos for promotional purposes. 71.203.209.0 01:34, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Timeframe
Shouldn't some sort of timeline or years be included. "Old Republic Era" is quite vague. Mrobviousjosh 17:45, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes. You can check the dates in the comics she appears in easily, but it should be easier. -LtNOWIS 00:26, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

What is the special thing about her?
We know that she has a lot of talents, but what is the special hidden thing about her. She clearly isn't force-sensitive because no one felt it but there are some hints that she may be more than meets the eye.

She is a very skilled fighter, as Alek said - better than she has a right to be. I mean, she is better then Zayne or Alek and can easily defeat multiple enemies. But, taking a head bang from a full grown adult male ithorian and then getting up, grabbing him and throwing him a few meters, isn't something any normal girl can do...

Well, for starters she has those pointy ears no other offshoot has. Adasca sais he needs her for a special project. Later he sais she doesn't seem to be what she is. For an offshoot, there's something about her that's so pureblooded. He later tells her that she could be the cure to the offshoot race. That she could restore it and her children would be true arkanians. After her blood sample was analysed, the scientists had to talk to Adasca or Eejee in person. After they showed Eejee the results, he said Adasca probably sensed what she really is, but he is shot dead by Rohlan, leaving the secret known by a smaller circle.

Rohlan also has a special interest in her, and I don't think it's love. He even followed her, hiding aboard the Last Resort. He later bargains with Adasca for his and hers escape. And he sure knows why Adasca would want her. He even threatened Lucien Draay to stick up to her and insist she has to be saved from Adasca, and he would give his last breath for her.

Lucien also knows something about her that few others know. When he sees her on a monitor he almost gives it away, but then corrects himself saying she's just the woman from Taris. Whatever the secret is, he quickly comes with the idea that she has to be killed, so Adasca's leverage would be gone.

Alek...well, I think his hormons are for blame.

So, does anyone now or can guess about her specialness? --Seth danny 19:08, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Wookieepedia isn't a place for speculation and the talk pages are not forums. If it was stated in the comics that anything was "special" about Jarael in an objective fashion, it would most likely be in the article, particularly as this is a Featured Article. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 19:29, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Name Pronunciation
Is Jarael's name meant to be pronounced "JAIR-ay-el" or "Jar-AY-el?"
 * JJM pronounced it the "Ja-rail" in some audio interview a year ago I believe. -- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|25px]] (Talk) 03:18, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Seperating Personality & Traits into a Talents section
Per the layout guide, a section exclusive on her talents is NOT permitted. When and if she gets to play around with the Force, then a Powers and Abilities section will be created. Until then, the sections in the article will remain the way they are. Those responsible for creating the section have already been given fair warning about the 3RR and if they want to discuss it then they are welcome to here. Otherwise, unless what I stated above and we come to an agreement here, I don't want to see any modifications made. With that said, any op can feel free to unlock the page. -- Redemption  (Talk) 19:36, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

If I may point out, the articles of Carth Onasi, Mission Vao, HK-47, T3-M4, General Grievous, Han Solo, Boba Fett, and others have both a personality section and talents or abilities section, and they are not force-sensituve so why should Jarael be any different? User:Atrulean Starkiller July 4 2008 (UTC)
 * The only one of those worth mentioning (considering how none of the others are FAs) is Carth Onasi. I'm not sure who wrote the Carth Onasi one but whoever did wasn't paying attention to the layout guide. Your argument holds as much as weight as the argument of "he did it so why can't I?". While I can see your point in that it isn't necessarily "wrong" (okay, actually I can't since the FA guidelines say that an FA must follow the layout but whatever). But it doesn't follow the layout guide and it's already an FA, done and done with. No reason to separate them. You'd be separating them for the hell of it. -- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|25px]] (Talk) 01:14, 5 July 2008 (UTC)