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Revanchist (faction)
Hey Kasra. I'm going to give you a preliminary account of the issues I believe you should deal with. I can take a look at the article again after you have fixed them up, in order to polish it up for the GAN page.
 * First item is that I think you need to turn the members section into something that is seen with the Black Vulkars. The Key members would be Revan, Alek, and the Jedi Exile.
 * In the year 3,964 BBY, the Revanchists, who were also known as the Jedi Crusaders,[6] began to come together and scout the looming Mandalorian threat as the Mandalorian and Republic fleets battled ineffectually within the neutral Republic frontier. Revan began to take his followers to investigate the Mandalorian activities on the Outer Rim, without the Jedi High Council's support. - There is redundant information in these two sentences, and they could probably be combined or reworded.
 * When Alek met Zayne Carrick that first time, it really isn't all that pertinent as to what Alek thought of Carrick. What is important is what Carrick's masters thought of the Revanchists worrying about the Mandalorians. That needs to be included.
 * In issue six, the news or something similar, talks about how Jedi have left to fight in the "crusade," and that many of them are already missing in action. You should add this in.
 * In issue eight, one of the Jedi at Flashpoint talks about how they were ambushed at Suurja, and that that planet was the first "outing" for the Crusaders. There is nothing in there about Revan leaving to take a look at Onderon and Dxun.
 * It is in issue nine that we learn that Revan left them to go to Onderon and Dxun. Also it appears that the Revanchists were kidnapped before the battle. Please double check this. There is an important scene between Revan and the High Council in this issue that I feel needs to be detailed a bit more.
 * In issue ten there is more information about Revan having a vision of what the Mandalorians are doing and going to investigate it. He also has some plans for the Crusaders and they will follow him through the tough times. You need to detail some of this a bit more.
 * I don't see them mentioned in issue 14. Please double check this.
 * Issue fifteen talks about the Crusaders scouting around the lines. Also remember that it is probable that the Exile was a scout on Serroco. In KotOR II, Atton Rand mentions she was there. This may be useful to add in somehow.
 * Issue nineteen, Alek talks about how some of them had visions about Adasca's exogorths. Plus there is some more details about the meeting on the Legacy to be found in issue twenty as well. This needs to be detailed a bit more.
 * You need to detail the information from Galactic Republic Defense Ministry Daily Brief KD0092 a bit more.
 * The Council approved his motion ordering the recall, or even detention, of the Revanchists.[14] After Alek, who was going by the alias "Malak" in order to avoid the warrant for his arrest,[15] testified against the Covenant on behalf of the fugitive Jedi Zayne Carrick, he was sent back to Revan and his Jedi with a final warning. - This needs more context. These sentences don't connect to each other very much.
 * I think you need to talk a bit about how the Jedi Council warned them that they would become corrupted and end up like the Mandalorian aggressors.
 * Eventually, in the year 3,961 BBY, Revan found an ancient Star Map on the Wookiee homeworld of Kashyyyk that was left by the Rakata, an ancient civilization that ruled the galaxy approximately 20,000 years earlier. He then discovered a planet called Malachor V - What does this Star Map have to do with Malachor V? These pieces of information need to connect to each other.
 * OK, start with these changes, and I'll look over the article again. I have changed and added some appearances. Make sure that you have all of them. Let me know when you are ready to have me look at the article again. Cylka  -talk- 20:48, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Duel on the Star Forge
OK, Kasra, here is my preliminary review of Duel on the Star Forge.
 * I would add in a small Prelude section before the Final confrontation section. It can give a brief explanation of the search for the Star Forge, Revan arriving on the Star Forge with his companions aboard the Ebon Hawk, meeting the other Jedi, redeeming Bastila, etc. This should really only be a paragraph long. This section is needed to give context for the last sentence of Malak's death.
 * The first paragraph of the Final confrontation section is all one sentence and needs to be broken up. You also need to add in a bit more context for Revan and Malak. Bastila is cut out of here, and added to the Prelude since she is not important to the duel.
 * Revan's arrival was unexpected, - For whom was it unexpected? Malak only, or others as well?
 * After Revan got past the droids, Malak realized that Revan had become much stronger than he ever was as the Dark Lord. Malak was tempted to try and capture his former Master alive, so that he could break him, and make Revan become his own apprentice. However, Revan said that he would never turn to the dark side again - I would explain this a bit in that this was a conversation between them as they were preparing to fight.
 * He then used the Force to drain the life-force from one of eight captive Jedi that he captured from the Jedi Enclave on Dantooine, when he and his forces attacked the planet. Revan destroyed the other stasis pods, letting the other Jedi become one with the Force. - This needs to be explained a lot more. Most readers will have not played the game, so they will not understand all that went on here.
 * I would expand the Aftermath section a bit more in regards to Revan and Bastila's roles and Revan's eventual departure. I would, however, cut out the whole second paragraph dealing with Traya and the Korriban academy since you will need to give a great deal of context to that and that will likely double the article. The events of KotOR are not vital to this duel.
 * You gave the cheat code for the Xbox version of the game, so you also need to give the cheat for the PC version, since it is present there as well. I don't exactly remember the cheat, but I'm sure that you could easily find it. I would cite the cheats to MobyGames or something similar.
 * Please let me know when you have taken care of these and I will go through the article again. It is looking good, Kasra. Cylka  -talk- 12:34, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Revan Intro Changes
I'm going to edit the Revan intro again at some point. For courtesy's sake (btw, if you had a problem with the intro couldn't you have brought it up in the three days in which it sat on the discussion page?) here's a breakdown of my thoughts regarding your changes:

What I'll Keep
 * 1) "helped defeat the Sith Empire" is more accurate than "saw the Sith Empire defeated". A worthy change. Thanks.
 * 2) "a Jedi strike team led by Shan boarded Revan's flagship and battled its way to the Dark Lord" Is more accurate and informative than what I had down originally. Good job.
 * 3) I got the dashes wrong inbetween "galaxy at large", thanks for fixing that.
 * 4) Republic commander Carth Onasi - Might be better dropping the "Republic" (just for structure's sake) but I wasn't aware/had forgotten he was a commander, so nice job adding it in.
 * 5) "the Jedi Council on Dantooine retrained Revan and charged him with discovering the source of Malak's fleet." I prefer the way you worded this overall. I would put "colossal" back in front of "Malak's fleet" however, though that's more of a stylistic thing.
 * 6) Didn't realise I'd linked Star Maps twice -- thanks for changing that.
 * 7) Linking "killing" to "skirmish aboard the Leviathan" was a good call, I think.
 * 8) Linking "a year later" to 3,955 BBY. I should have done that. Oops.
 * 9) In fact, all the links to specific articles I wasn't aware of were good calls. Thanks.

What I'll keep if you can prove it
 * 1) Malak fired upon Revan from aboard the Leviathan -- where is this stated? The KotOR CG? It's certainly not in the game.  I wasn't aware we knew from which ship Malak launched his assault. You may be right but I'd like to see a source.

What I'll Remove/Change
 * 1) Species/Gender is unnecessary. That's what the infobox is for. It's certainly not a requirement for an FA, see Tycho Celchu or Kol Skywalker for example. All you've done is make the sentence longer for no good reason.
 * 2) "The Republic fleet under his direct control": We're specifically told in KotOR I that Revan had only a third of the (entire) Republic Navy/Fleet under his *direct* control, even though he was in overall command of everything by the end of the war.
 * 3) Echo: "Revan tracked down ancient Rakatan Star Maps in pursuit of the Star Forge, a superweapon of the Rakatan Infinite Empire." The second "Rakatan" is unnecessary. Try saying the above out loud, too. It sounds weird.
 * 4) "Jedi Knight Bastila Shan". Bastila was a Padawan during Revan's reign (and for at least some of Malak's), not a Jedi Knight. "Padawan Shan you are already familiar with" - Zhar I specified Padawan for a reason. It's dumb, sure, but that's what the game says.
 * 5) Echo: "Caught by surprise, Revan was incapacitated by Malak's attack and then captured by the strike team while Malak, believing his Master destroyed, seized control of the Sith Empire." Two "Malaks" in one sentence looks bad, bland and boring. You've made this sentence worse for no good reason. Why? "While his traitorous apprentice" was both accurate and engaging to the reader.
 * 6) "Unable to restore Revan's true persona". You're making assumptions. There are conflicting sources. Some say they were unable, others that they were unwilling (we even have a section on that in the article, don't we?). The intro must take both into account.
 * 7) "the Sith fleet's commander" - why even make this change? Sure, you cut down on one word, but it doesn't look half as nice as "commander of the Sith fleet".
 * 8) "After killing Karath and attempting to escape the Leviathan". Yeah, we know they're on the Leviathan, why the repetition? The original sentence had more punch.
 * 9) "On Rakata Prime, when Shan, whom Malak had broken to his will, attempted to turn Revan back to the dark side, Revan rejected her pleas. As the Republic fleet attacked the Star Forge in the Rakata system, Revan boarded the ancient space station, turned Shan back to the light, and vanquished Malak in a duel, thereby defeating the Sith Empire and bringing the war he had instigated to a close." I appreciate what you were trying to do here, but it looks a bit clunky. I'll keep the additional information you've added but I'm going to pretty it up a bit. ;)
 * 10) "Three hundred years after the Jedi Civil War's end, Revan was believed to have never returned to the galaxy." Looks poor, sorry. You also got the date wrong. The FAQ over at the TOR website (which tells us that "Revan never returned") is speaking of the situation during the "present day" of TOR, which is 3,623 BBY. 3,653 BBY is the year the Treaty of Coruscant was signed. Again, I did do my research. If you think I'm wrong about something (and I can be, because I'm human) please bring it up with me before you just change it. Because you might be wrong.

Stuff I'm just curious about
 * 1) Why'd you change all references to Lehon to "Rakata Prime"? Just curious. Seems a bit superficial.

Thanks for your time and sorry if it seems like I'm having a go at you. That's not my intention. Later, dude.  Uli Talk 02:26, September 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * I've responded to your response over at my own talk page.  Uli Talk 21:02, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've done the edit. Extending the Rakata System stuff seemed too forced, so I ended up keeping it closer to how it used to be, whilst bringing in all but the "space station" link you'd made. I've also got "human male" into the introduction without making the first sentence overcrowded. I just called Bastila a "Jedi", so that way we have all our bases covered. :P  Uli Talk 16:37, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Cade Skywalkah
Hey Kasra! I see that you're working on Cade Skywalker. Awesome stuff, and props for doing that. I hope I can help out: If you check out the article on Legacy, there are some points in the "Crafting the galaxy" subsection of "Conception" that you might want to mine for Bts. Cheers! Menkooroo 06:16, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * I would love to help out! Although truthfully, I don't know how much of a help I can be... I'm in South Korea until next October, and have missed out on the last few issues of Legacy, which I won't be able to read until the eventual Monster trade paperback. All of the work I've been doing on the IK's lately is based on writeup of them I did a year ago, before I had an idea of how to actually write an FA, and the Legacy Era Campaign Guide, which I shoved into my suitcase. With that said, though, I think I could probably help out with Cade in the following ways:
 * Behind the scenes: Yup, definitely. The stuff from the Legacy article, plus action figure, miniature, and whatever else I find tomorrow. My students are on winter break right now, so I can actually dedicate quite a bit of time at work to doing this. :^P
 * Personality and traits: I'll be able to write a pretty beefy section, but without the actual comics to check on, it may be slightly incomplete.
 * Powers and abilities: Per above.
 * Anything from the Campaign Guide: I totally gotcho back on this one.
 * I'll start a new workbench at work tomorrow and update you as I go along. Thanks for the invite! Menkooroo 17:51, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Cade in Manhattan
 * 2) *Check out your workbench; I did a bunch of work on Bts today. Let me know what you think, and feel free to either request or make any changes. More to come as I comb through old forum posts by and interviews with Ostrander and Duursema. Also --- could you check out Trust Issues? He's listed as only appearing in a hologram in the Appearances section, but I'm pretty sure there are a few panels of him getting beaten up by some thugs on the Wheel. Menkooroo 05:40, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) *I would love to be a co-nom! Probably won't be able to happen for a while, though, as you and I are both already above the three-nom limit. :^D I just did a bunch of work on personality and traits, and moved some of what you had in there to a new section, armor and equipment. Let me know what you think. While writing it, I though it was a good idea to do it somewhat chronologically, as Cade has been developing as a character for 43 issues now, and following that development was necessary in order to write a sensical p&t section. So, for example, instead of having one paragraph that covered all of the times he says "No one dies for me", I thought it made more sense to split them up. Again, feel free to make or request any changes at all. I'll be back to write the "relationships" section later. Menkooroo 07:03, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) *Really? Who is the dude getting beat up by the thugs in those panels, then? ... Or am I just remembering it very wrong? Anyway.Sorry I haven't contributed in a few days; I should be able to do more in the next week. Relationships and prob. a bit of powers and abilities. Menkooroo 15:34, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) *I'm not sure if I'd be able to do a good job on Deliah without the comics in front of me. Sorry. :^( I have a bit more I want to add to Bts, and it looks like you've already done a great job with powers and abilities. Is there anything else you want me to tackle? Menkooroo 17:58, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) **Right! A pre-nom review. :^D I knew I was forgetting something important. I will definitely do that. Also, what kind of images are you looking for? More for the bio? There are a few images currently in Cade's actual article that I think you could fit in well: nyah, nyah, and nyah. Menkooroo 18:25, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

For your Cade Skywalker project :

Maxattac 13:50, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Proposition
Hey Kasra,

Question: how much do you know about the Tomb of Freedon Nadd? —Tommy 9281  ( Mechno-chair ) 16:43, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Is it not featured in KOTOR 1? —Tommy 9281 Mechnochair negwt.jpg ( Mechno-chair ) 16:48, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, what do you have in mind? We both have several things to wrap up before we can focus primarily on the tomb anyway, so it's no big rush. —Tommy 9281 Mechnochair negwt.jpg ( Mechno-chair ) 16:43, February 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * This has been on my mind as well. Let's see how things play out with the final issue of Demon, and we'll take it from there. —Tommy 9281 Mechnochair negwt.jpg ( Mechno-chair ) 16:48, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hey
Hey Kasra! Yes, I'm back - at least on a limited basis. I had an urgent RL situation last fall so I had to concentrate on that. Now that everything is settling down I have some time to devote to the Wook again. I plan on being around at least a couple of times a week. Congrats on being WOTM! You certainly have been working around here. I see that you have some FANs and I'm hoping to be able to get to them at some point soon. I have to say that I'm somewhat relieved that the KotOR story is ending since now we may have a chance to really straighten out the project and not have to worry about updating all the time. Cylka  -talk- 19:46, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll be happy to help you. As for IRC, you may want to check out this web site as it should help you with whatever you need. I'm not yet sure when we're going to have a meeting. I need to catch up on what's been going on and then figure it out. <font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 20:06, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll do the pre-nom reviews in the near future since you have some time before you'll be able to put them up. I plan on reviewing Uthar Wynn this week. I think I may wait with Malak and Saul until they are fully updated. And yes, I'm able to upload some images. It all depends on what you want. Tell me specifically, and then I can let you know if it's possible. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 00:15, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I do. What do you need? <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 01:21, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll get the images scanned soon. I don't have Purge, but I may be able to get a hold of it. I'll let you know. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 01:31, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * I should have the images for you tomorrow. I need to tinker with my scanner and it's too late to have my friend help me. But it will be fixed by tomorrow. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 01:45, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Kasra, I've scanned the images that you asked for, but they are coming out grainy and somewhat ugly. I'm not sure what the problem is. I think that you would be better off asking someone who has more experience with images from the CSWE than I do. Sorry about that. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 21:10, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

KOTOR 50
Hey Kasra, can you do me a solid? I won't be able to get KOTOR #50 for another week or so (my car died, and my comic book shop is quite far; I won't be able to schedule a trip down for a bit.) Could you tell me, without any spoilers, if the Inexpugnable-class appears in the issue? That way, I'll know to get the issue earlier than I would otherwise need to, or put a quick note saying that the article is undergoing an edit or whatever. I just don't want my FAN disrupted because of a problem getting the last issue. Thank you! <font color=#FF0000>Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith  -Just shy, not antisocial: You can talk to me!- 16:40, February 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries about that; I pre-order three months in advance (when Diamond codes first come out) and get a 25% discount, and they hold the books for me. I have Legacy 44, SW Adventures 3 already on hold, and KOTOR 50 and Legacy 45 coming soon.  And he sold books at CAD/USD parity when the Canadian dollar was strong (book publishers never modified their cover prices when the difference in dollar value decreased).  But thatnks for letting me know about the Inexies.  Cheers! <font color=#FF0000>Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith  -Just shy, not antisocial: You can talk to me!- 20:24, February 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know, bro! And if you need any scans from it, let me know and I'll get them next week.  Cheers! <font color=#FF0000>Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith  -Just shy, not antisocial: You can talk to me!- 13:35, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Kreia's lightsaber
Yes, I did get that message. Since the CSWE is the latest source, it should be added that she used a green double-bladed 'saber. All we know for certain is that she used one before she lost her hand. I would assume that she didn't afterward, but that is Bts material. Also, I believe the CG has an image of her controlling three floating purple blades, but in the game they were all different colors. That will be Bts material also. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 02:21, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, but that is kind of weird. I would have imagined that it would be nearly impossible to use a saberstaff with one hand. Yes, I have the pc version of the game and she used different colors. I'll go back to some savegames in the next few days and tell you which colors they were. That is another Bts thing. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 02:35, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

FA noms
Kasra:

Since we've been unable to connect, I'll just post this here. I'd rather not leave it on the FAN page, but you should be aware of something. Let me simply state that I have gone through and combed every single sentence within the prose of Calo Nord to excise the rampant speculation, areas that needed clarification, and the things that were poorly worded. Especially because of the things that were improperly cited or speculative, I strongly admonish you to go through the other noms on the FAN page within the "Bad guys" project and to heavily scrutinize them. After browsing through the others, I saw similar things. Please rectify them before they progress any further or they will not leave the FAN page as a successful nomination. I'm happy to help out, but I should not have to feel like everything written within an article needs to be questioned. I'm sorry to slap this here, but you are a more talented writer than this. You have the capability to make the KotOR noms work and to really progress the entire WookieeProject. Please be more careful in the future, however. Lastly, please make note of how I changed the wording of the game-play options paragraph in the Bts. Please see how I avoided lacing it with "the player" and refrained from mentioning Revan when speaking about player options. Please note this for your reference in other nominations. &mdash; Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 17:51, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

GAN
It's considered bad form to go back and "revert" changes you made to a nominated article per a reviewer's objection during the nomination process. Such as changing back all mentions of the character's surname to his first name, even after making this change originally following an objection requesting you to do so. This isn't the first time I've seen you do this, Kasra, and it's not a good habit to get into. At the very least, you should discuss this with the reviewer who made the objection in the first place. For the time being, I would suggest changing back the article to the agreed-upon version. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:34, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't mean to infer that everything in that specific edit had to be changed back, just that reverting a change made by way of a reviewer's objection without discussion is generally considered bad form. You're welcome to keep any other minor wording or formatting changes you made. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:49, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * You know more about the subject material than I do, so if that is the case regarding his last name, very well. But for future reference, this is why it's best to utilize the edit summary feature to explain to anyone curious, like myself, why the change is being made. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:51, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Malak's name
Hey Kasra. I see that you already changed his name back to Alek and that is good, since JJM clarified that Squinquargesimus is not part of his name. I also read the above post, and I have to agree with Tope that it would have been a good idea to show your evidence and talk it over with the person who made the objection about the name, if only to avoid having any conflicts. As for the CSWE images, doesn't JMAS have access to it also? <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 16:09, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Request
Sure, I'll try to get to her when I have the time. Also, looking at (and rather in response to) Cylka's above message, I'm not concerned if the Darth Malak article uses "Alek" as long as that is the canonical path&mdash;as I'm unfamiliar with the source material, you have better judgment on what is good for the article.  CC7567  (talk) 07:38, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries, I'll check it out. It'll be in a day or so, but I'll gladly check it out (just FYI, I can't comment much on the game section, beyond structure and grammar, as I haven't played through the game; only just got it on Steam.).  Cheers. <font color=#FF0000>Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith  -Just shy, not antisocial: You can talk to me!- 15:46, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

BTC/ATC
While I'm all for integrating TOR information into more articles, I think that if we do it for KotOR articles we would have to do it for all articles. That would be an immense undertaking, and as it stands I think the BBY/ABY dating system functions well in our articles. I also think that if we were to include BYC/ATC in articles, we would be just as compelled to use Great ReSynchronization dates, which is undesirable. But, final word rests with the members of your project, as I'm technically not a part of it and therefore don't have a lot of authority over the management of KotOR articles. If you have anything for TOR articles though, let me know. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 21:40, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * You'll be one of the first I notify when I start it. It'll probably be around when they announce an official release date for the game. And thanks for consulting me, by the way. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 21:52, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey Kasra. I have to agree with Trayus about adding the BTC/ATC dating system to the KotOR articles. TOR and KotOR are very loosely related to each other, and the amount of work that would need to be put in would be staggering. The only time I think that it would be worthwhile to add the dating system is if there ever was an article that specifically included both TOR and KotOR subject matter. Thanks. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 03:18, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

RE: The tomb...
No sweat. It'll be a while before we get to focus entirely on that anyway, so take your time. You may also want to coordinate with, because this was originally a project that she and I intended on seeing through. I do, however, want imput from both of you, so it'll be good for the three of us to work on the project together. —Tommy 9281  ( Mechno-chair ) 00:20, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, she seems to be pretty busy at the moment, and I haven't even asked her about resuming the tomb yet, let alone something new. One thing at a time ;) —Tommy 9281 Mechnochair negwt.jpg ( Mechno-chair ) 00:26, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Sith Lady in the One Sith
Gunn Yage give spontaneously the title of Lady to Darth Rauder in Monster,Part 3. It shows the fact that in Darth Krayt's Order the women are Sith Lady, no ?

Re: Advice
Hey Kasra. While I can understand your reluctance to remove them, I think that it would be a good idea to do so, at least for the time being. It would be better to wait and see what the future sources will have to offer. This would also give you the time to take another look at the articles and see what needs to be fixed up based on the current objections. I know that you have a few other, more straightforward articles that you can nominate instead. Otherwise, you are right, you may be limited with your nominations for a while. If you want to have them removed, the Inqs are having a meeting tonight, and I could bring it up then. Let me know. I hope this helped. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 20:37, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Knight Errant
Yes. —Tommy 9281  ( Mechno-chair ) 01:29, February 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Absolutely. —Tommy 9281 Mechnochair negwt.jpg ( Mechno-chair ) 02:33, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Re:
No worries, Kasra. Please note my comments on the FAN page before Nord becomes archived. &mdash; Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 00:17, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Help On Wikipedia
Yo, Kasra it's me K.O. what's up? I need your help on the regular wikipedia. The Tobymac page needs some total revising. You tell me how well you do on upgrading and fixing Wookiepedia articals why not give your skills a shot on the good ol regular wiki? Please respond to me on my wiki account asap. P.S. For an example of how I am trying to make the Tobymac page look see the Newsboys page. With your writing skill and my Tobymac knowledge (and evil mind) I am sure we can make the Tobymac page a great page. 71.0.81.142 16:37, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Re: KotOR comic image requests
Your wish is my command. Xicer9 ( Combadge) 22:08, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Query
I do not, sorry. I know Green tentacle does, you may want to ask him. Xicer9 ( Combadge) 15:33, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Taquito
I saw you joined up the WP:TCW as "grammar" helper. Could you take a look at Taquito and say where the gramaticall errors are? -- Clone Commander Lee  Talk 18:28, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Sha Koon
It's probably not needed.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 20:53, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Demagol image
Hey Kasra. I went ahead and changed Demagol's image to the one you had proposed. If any one decides they have a problem with it, they can bring it up. I'm also slowly going through the FAN page so I should get to Shasa this week. I'm not sure if you are eligible to add nominations to the GAN or FAN page, but let me know ahead of time and I'll pre-nom review them for you. Thanks. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 05:30, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Re:CWA 9
No, sorry, I don't. :(  JangFett  (Talk) 20:56, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Traavis
Yeah, that's fine.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 20:56, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Uthar Wynn
Hey, thanks for the comment about Uthar Wynn. As for my objections, it just more about what happened in the correct order. Here's what I mean:


 * Revan and Yuthura begin planning
 * Revan tells Wynn for prestige and all the other jazz
 * Revan tells Ban, who plans on poisoning Wynn
 * Revan breaks in Wynn's bedroom, finds the evidence for Selene's murder to give to Dustil, and plants poison in the bed

My only other objections are if Revan gave Uthar Tulak Hord's holocron and Ajunta Pall's blade (which I was glad was fixed by me, haha)

Anyway, thank you for contacting me! Jedi Striker 00:08, March 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for looking into it. The Lashowe thing has been confusing cuz her article says Revan took the holocron to prevent it from falling to the Sith. Jedi Striker 00:18, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

C-C-C-Cade
Hey Kasra,

Sorry I've been such a dink with the Cade pre-nom review. There's really no reason that I shouldn't have it done this weekend. However...

There's been a lot of talk on the FAN Page lately about Rule 5: An article must be constant, and not be changing from day-to-day. A couple of inqs have pointed this out to me with my Antares Draco nom, and he's usually only in a few issues per year before disappearing for twelve or so months. Cade, on the other hand, is Legacy protagonist, and basically every month, his article would have to be updated with new info. Any inq that gave the article their support would need to do an additional review whenever a new Duursema-pencilled Legacy issue was released, which means that for the FAN to pass, it would need all five inqvotes to come within a month of eachother.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't nominate it --- I'm just wondering what we can do to be proactive about this problem. Do you have any suggestions?

It's not impossible for a character who's the protagonist of current media to be FA'd, but with Cade, I can see it being a long, drawn-out process that the inq's would eventually abandon, in spite of the article's quality. Even if it was nominated by another inq.

Whaddya think? Menkooroo 01:12, March 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Also! Here's what I think you should do. After the bio is cleaned up, the intro is rewritten, some more images are added, and a bit about his relationship with Blue is put in --- I think you should transfer all of this to Cade's actual article. Sure, you won't be FANing it, but to keep all of this info here while we waited for Legacy to end (which could (and hopefully will be)) many years from now would be detrimental to the Wook. Share the knowledge! Menkooroo 14:14, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Query about QOTD
Looks like it's slated for 4/25. Enochf 20:59, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Heads up
Thanks for the update. I saw the Belsavis stuff but I missed the comic, heh. Should be interesting. I just hope they get a better artist. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 01:41, March 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for the congrats, I was really looking forward to her passing (heh, that sounds like I was looking forward to her death). And I'll be sure to let you know about her buddies, I'd always appreciate help. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 22:16, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re
Well, unless I'm blind, that just states that he plays a Jedi Knight. Whether that's sufficient enough to use as a ref, I'm not sure. FWIW, Gervais Koffi gives a source to SW.com, though the link no longer works. Anyone, I'm not sure if that site would be considered official enough, or whatever, so I'd suggest you keep looking, and see if you can find anything else. Your best bet, I'd say, would be to try to find Homing Beacon 91 or something, because that supposedly contains said info.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 20:20, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, this is annoying. If you go to ref 7, and click the "Backup link" link, you'll see it says he was in ROTS. Problem is, it doesn't specify as who he played, which is the same as his website, unfortunately. However, several sites that I and several users who I spoke to on IRC say are too unofficial to ref, specify that he did play Koffi (not like that's a big surprise, they look pretty similar :P ). In the BTS when you state who played him, I'd suggest saying "though no official SW source confirms that Koffi played Arana, both SW.com and Koffi's site state that he appeared in ROTS, and several other sites unaffiliated with SW or Koffi do say that he played Arana in ROTS." Then, ref that to his site, homing beacon 91's backup link, and the unofficial sites (this, this and this). Hope that helps. [[User:Chack Jadson| Chack Jadson ] (Talk) 23:28, March 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 20:14, March 22, 2010 (UTC)

Arana
Hey Kasra, sorry for the late response. I'd be happy to give Arana a review for you. I'll do it soon, I've just been kind of busy updating a few of my articles. I'll post any problems here if I don't catch you on the IRC anytime soon. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 19:40, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

More KOTOR
I'm afraid I need your services again, this time for mentions of things (and any info not found in the game) inside the North Apartments in the Prima Guide. If you have some extra time to spare, you might as well go and get a list for a few other nearby areas as well, since I'll probably be asking you sometime anyway. As always, if there's anything I can do in return, you need only ask. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie the truth  ) 05:07, March 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure. It doesn't really matter. It's not like I'll be quitting the site in the next few days :P. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 21:25, April 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * This guy in particular is what I'm looking for at present. He's not named, but I'm pretty sure he's mentioned due to his importance to the plot. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 23:21, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow. I had no idea you could go to those other people. Every time I played it, I went to the Aqualish. Further investigation on GameBanshee reveals that you can actually buy them off Sarna too. However, the Aqualish is the canonical way of obtaining them, since the encounter provides LS points if done correctly. Thanks for the tip though; I could have easily missed that. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 07:02, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Satele
Oh that sounds great. Any help you need, just let me know. And I've been wanting to ask around: when do you think would be a good time to start a TOR WookieeProject? I've been planning on it but was hoping to wait until closer to the game's release. But there's been so much content released, I'm considering starting it sooner. Thoughts? Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 04:33, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Re: KotOR comic images
I uploaded both since I wasn't sure whether the first one would still be acceptable the way it is. Xicer9 ( Combadge) 05:24, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the info. I'll review this articles if you nominate them.  Clone Commander Lee  Talk 19:28, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darth Malak quote
I noticed you removed the [sic] tag on the databank quote on Darth Malak's page. The quote comes from the second paragraph in the Behind the Scenes section of his databank entry, and Millennium is spelled incorrectly there. It's been kind of a project of mine to correct all of the incorrect spellings of the Millennium Falcon so I was hoping it'd be alright for me to put the [sic] tag back in? Thanks, A Christian 20:35, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Query
Sure, just gimme a few days. —Tommy 9281 20:36, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

WookieeProject: The Old Republic
Hey Kasra, I just wanted to formally invite you to become a member of WookieeProject The Old Republic. I know you've been interested in joining and have been doing some work in the area, and I would love to have your help! Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 02:41, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Jedi
I've been quite well recently, you? That would be a great help. It would be great if she had some even minor backstory (But I won't get my hopes up for a strategy guide). NaruHina Talk  02:55, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Could you quote the whole sentence, please? NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 22:09, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks again. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 03:03, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Request
I'll try to get to it as soon as I can.  CC7567  (talk) 22:14, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just to make sure that you know, I'm not ignoring your request; I'm just waiting for Naru to finish his review, as I prefer not to open up the possibility for conflicting reviews while both are ongoing.  CC7567  (talk) 20:21, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re:
Well, it was just the link you had in there before your latest revision. By the definition of an Imperial Advisor, as I understand it, it still applies to Pestate in that instance. If you discover otherwise, feel free to remove it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:33, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Koffi
You're right about Palpy/DS. Inn some contexts you use the latter and it's just my personal preference, but in this case Palpy should be used. As for "Dark Side," it is always lowercase, even if it is uppercase in the quoted fiction, really just because the writers can't keep their captalization straight, let alone continuity. The CIS needs some kind of context if you say the name. It doesn't have to be pipelinked, it's just easier sometimes. NaruHina Talk  22:14, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Bultar
You're welcome :) --Skippy Farlstendoiro 13:56, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Wynn
Good to hear. Thanks. And good job on the article. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:13, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Question about references
Hmm. Apparently for some reason I was applying the rule when the CSWE is listed in the sources; it's fine the way it currently is. However, please make sure to italicize the section, as I believe that's the proper formatting. Otherwise, it's fine.  CC7567  (talk) 06:06, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

KOTOR era ships
Hi Kasra, sorry about the delay, I was traveling on business and just got back. Berlin is such a nice city :) Anyways, thanks on the congrats!  And congrats on your various FAs lately (didn't Malak just get one?)  As for what's next, since I haven't played much of the game (and no playing KOTOR II at all), I'm limited by what's in the comics, Handbook, and CG.  My next project will probably be the Chaos Fighter, since it's only in the TOTJ comics and the KOTOR CG.  I might continue with other KOTOR ships later, maybe GANing some of the smaller/weirder/unidentified ones, or even some of the Mando ones.  I can even work on some KOTOR game ones with your help (like the Foray or Chela).  But I won't go near any major game vessels, like Hammerhead or Aurek. <font color=#FF0000>Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith  -Just shy, not antisocial: You can talk to me!- 16:58, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Good call on Endar Spire; it was early enough in the game that I remember it (and it may well feature in TOR; there's wreckage of a Hammerhead on Taris). As regarding the other ships, I should clarify that they were classes Foray-class blockade runner and S-250 Chela-class starfighter.  I'm bigger into starship classes than ships themselves, but it will be fun to try individual ships too.  And yes, I am on Facebook, but for privacy I'd rather not put my real name and info on the Wook.  Give me an email address and I'll send it to you?  Or email me your info to trekker_ncc1701d@hotmail.com?  Cheers. <font color=#FF0000>Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith  -Just shy, not antisocial: You can talk to me!- 20:06, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Kardem
Hey Kasra, sorry it took me so long to get to this. A few things stood out to me:
 * Is there no article for the individual Dir'Nul was assigned to guard?
 * No, no detail is given on the person in question.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 12:43, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Is there no article for the duel between she and the unidentified Jedi whom she thought was Kardem?
 * I'll create the article.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 12:43, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Created.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 13:01, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * "However, she caught B'risko in the arms of a Twi'lek female, and Dir'Nul murdered them both. She created the personality of the male Dark Jedi Kardem, and was unaware that she was the person that had killed B'risko." You need to transition this a little better so that the reader is totally aware that the killing of the Twi'lek and B'risko caused Dir'Nul to adopt an alter-ego.
 * I think it's clearer now.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 12:43, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * "A bounty was eventually placed on Dir'Nul's split personality of Kardem. Dir'Nul was captured by the Mandalorian bounty hunter Feskitt Bobb. " Again with the transitioning. Did the galaxy at large know that Kardem was actually Dir'Nul? What made the Mandalorian take her into custody?
 * This is all the article has to say about Kardem's capture. Dir'Nul isn't mentioned anywhere there.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 01:46, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's all I got. —Tommy 9281 22:45, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review, Tommy, let me know if there are any other issues.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 01:46, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Re:
Yeah, I think it's a good practice too, in the event that the information you're referencing is from a different entry than the name of the subject. Since that information for the Koffi Arana article was under the "Koffi Arana" entry in CSWE, I think it's just unnecessarily redundant to include that in that case. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:18, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * I still think it's unnecessary, but if you really want to include it in your referencing, go for it. I would suggest at least leaving it out of the Sources list unless the information is found under a different entry. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:36, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:42, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Cool, sounds good. I think I removed some of those from some of your other GAs I've read. If you want to re-add them to your referencing in those articles, feel free. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:50, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Re: WotM
Thanks so much Kasra. It's really meaningful to know that someone with your passion for Wookieepedia thinks I'm deserving of the honor. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 18:13, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ya know, now that you say that I'm thinking it was supposed to, but I can't find a release date. The only indicator I've found is here, which says April. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 22:21, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll keep looking for something more solid, but here it says May 5th, and here it says April 28th. So strange. My suggestion for now would be to rely on the online webcomic until the TPB is found somewhere. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 00:50, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't at the moment, but I'll definitely look into it for you. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 01:29, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I do, but I haven't been able to access it recently because I lost the password. Hahaha I'll let you know when I either get a new one or find the password. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 01:36, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry about not reviewing it earlier. I gave it a look see and posted my objection on the FAN. Great work, and sorry again, I got totally distracted and wasn't able to give it a pre-nom review. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 03:13, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Query
No; Crik was the only character from The Hidden Blade that I had planned to GA. Grand Moff Tranner (Comlink) 19:35, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Mandalorian History
Here's all the information on Goot and Bobb. Sadly, there really isn't any information except that Kardem was captured by Bobb. There is no mention of any Vydel Dir'Nul in there anywhere. -  JMAS  Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 01:38, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Re:WP:TOR
Done. I could have sworn I did that when I created the page, but I guess not. Thanks for the suggestion. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 22:27, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much. And great job with Arana. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 20:41, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Uthar Wynn
Hey Kasra. Do you need help with my FAN objection to Uthar Wynn? I would be happy to help you sort out the context issue if you need it. We can either do it through talk pages or through IRC if it helps.  CC7567  (talk) 21:28, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * While I do see the issue here, I'd like you to find a way to get past the game completion problem so that it doesn't become a hindrance. Let me point out to you which ones I'm specifically finding are a little hesitant on relevancy, and we can go from there:
 * 1) "During Revan's stay at the Academy, he assisted Carth Onasi in convincing his son, Dustil, that the Sith were evil. Revan broke into Wynn's room in the Academy and stole his personal datapad, which contained his order to kill Selene. This caused Dustil to abandon the Sith ways and leave the Academy." Do Dustil's actions, specifically, have any effect on Wynn? If not, do they affect Wynn if it they are done a different way? If the answer to both of these is no, then only Wynn's datapad should be mentioned with the note that it was stolen by Revan.
 * 2) "While Revan was earning prestige in order to gain access to the Star Map, he gained Ban's trust and friendship. The two conspired with each other to kill Wynn in the tomb of the ancient Dark Lord Naga Sadow, where Revan's final test to prove his worth was to take place." Can this not simply be mentioned when Wynn is killed at the tomb? It doesn't have much relevancy to Wynn in its current placement.
 * Those are basically the two places that I'm noticing to be a little hazy as far as extraneous context goes. If it is completely impossible to rephrase them without threatening the validity of the game completion tag, then let me know and I'll strike my objection, but I'd like you to at least try and modify them if possible.  CC7567  (talk) 23:12, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's it from me, then. Good job fixing up the article.  CC7567  (talk) 01:22, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Query about QOTD
That one has only gotten to +4 on the vote count so far, so it's not currently on the queue. Enochf 22:51, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Query
I see it already has passed. :-) But feel free to ask me for more reviews—I'll be happy to do that. Cheers. -- 1358  (Talk) 04:50, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I just noticed a few things while reading through Dan&hellip;
 * Could you start the intro an other way. Something like just "Asaak Dan was a Togruta male Jedi Master who lived at-that-time", and then insert the presence in the Temple later?
 * "Evacuation on Dac:" Context on Rogue Squadron.
 * That's all. I reviewed the other one as well, and left some objections at its FAN entry. -- 1358  (Talk) 05:07, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. :P -- 1358  (Talk) 13:53, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Query
Hey Kasra. I've been good thanks. Sure, I can upload it. He is only in that one panel right? Grunny ( talk ) 23:33, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll upload it in a bit, and I'll take a look at Dan later today. Feel free to email me if you want to talk about the series end :-). Cheers, Grunny  ( talk ) 23:39, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

Here ya go:

Cheers, Grunny  ( talk ) 00:33, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

lightsaber
Whoops. Sorry about the edit conflict there.

I think it's better to have pictures of Swan rather than pictures of her lightsaber. 'Specially since there's a whole buncha images of her available. Whaddya think? Menkooroo 02:16, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries at all. I found the missing sources, and my classes were cancelled today, which means I have little else to do all day at work. Which also means time to finish reviewing Rawk, baby! Menkooroo 02:21, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Duel in the Hrakert Station talk page
I appreciate you directing me to the CT Archive/Proposal for approaching KotOR articles forum and I read through your Proposal. However you make one critical error, using the KotOR Guide book as an additional reference point. I say this because in the Guide book for the game it shows images of Bastila on Korriban which is the one planet she can not set foot on. Also Darth Culator’s point about the vision that reveals Revan’s identity doesn’t prove that is the order of the planet he visited on his second quest for the Star Forge if anything it prove that it is the most likely order of his first quest to find the Star Forge. Now I am not sure of the order in which Revan traveled on his second journey but I do agree that Korriban would have been the most likely final planet in the order. The last planet is right after Revan loses Bastila and she couldn't have left the Ebon Hawk anyway, and besides would you save the enemy stronghold for last. --JMasterWor 14:27, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Query
Right now I'm going through the sourcebook, and so far I have seen no mention of Malak. If I do, though, I'll tell you.  IFYLOFD  ( Floyd's crib ) 02:14, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Dendro
Sure, I'll get right on both. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie the truth  ) 02:24, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re:
Hey Kasra, you did a great job updating the articles, but I agree with you that it's a little early to nominate them. I support nominations for certain articles, but since these two have been confirmed as major characters, I would suggest waiting until the game is released. I also agree with you that Artus should be moved, as Mandalore the Vindicated seems to be the name he's known to the galaxy by, and the HoloNet report would indicate that he's forsaken the name Artus. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 21:13, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Artus
Done like dinner.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 21:23, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 21:25, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Your edits to Artus
Mandalore or Mand'alor—they're both the same, one's simply the "native" rendering. As I understand it, both are equally acceptable. In the case of the references in the succession box, I know they're necessary but as they were, they created an error. I removed them when I couldn't fix it, and planned on requesting a re-source. Sorry for any misunderstanding.--Bella&#39;Mia 00:26, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Malak
Yeah I can get it for you, but JMAS is probably the best source for a higher quality version. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 22:15, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

Malak image
I think it'd be fine, yeah.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 00:39, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Rawk
Yeah, sure. I'll do a thorough review when I have more time. -- 1358  (Talk) 14:12, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I won't be able to properly review Rawk until Sunday, as I'll be on a vacation. Cheers. -- 1358  (Talk) 14:32, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Finally done; sorry for the delay. :P I didn't really find anything to object to; good work! -- 1358  (Talk) 13:02, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Reviews
I'll get to them if and when I can, but I want you to know that my activity is going to be sporadic over the next two weeks. You might be better off asking others to review them for you.  CC7567  (talk) 02:56, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

CSWE
Hey Kasra, do you own the Complete Encyclopedia? If not, do you have anyone you could refer me to for information from it? Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 22:29, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Firstly, I think it's great that they revealed the Emperor, although he's not at all what I expected. Secondly, I was wondering if you could tell me what the CSWE says about the Enhanced Security and Enforcement Act, and if it has anything on the Security Act. Thanks! Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 18:26, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah I was expecting something similar, but I kind of like the idea of an Emperor who's eerily young looking. But thanks for agreeing to check and for the congratulations. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 05:18, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thats perfect. Thank you so much! Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 06:00, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Gray Jedi review
I would be most grateful for a review, especially for someone whose work I was using as a reference for how to write a quality organization article. Thanks in advance! &mdash;fodigg  (talk) | 13:37, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * I had not, although that article looks to be in pretty good shape already. My one concern with Bindo is that his primary source is not something that can be scanned through quickly in a text format. I'm currently trying to push myself on the WP:TOR front, but after the GJ article gets FA status, I'll consider it. I figure it's easier to promote articles in "bunches" of related material, so that I can keep them all updated as new sources come out, and Bindo is certainly related to the GJ article. Thank you for the suggestion and the offer of support. &mdash;fodigg  BlackRebelStarbird.png (talk) | 13:37, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re: New source to Koon
"Plo's niece, Sha Koon, was also a Jedi&mdash;she served beside him in the Stark Hyperspace War!" That's all the magazine has on her, so I don't think Koon's article requires any change. Cheers,  CC7567  (talk) 00:13, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Only that Swan was a Padawan under Koon.  CC7567  (talk) 00:42, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

Jedi Tower FAN
Hey Kasra. As a result of some recent objections to the FA nomination, I've made some fairly extensive changes to Jedi Tower. Seeing as you voted to support it before I made the changes, I thought you'd want to know in case you wanted to look through it again to see if you still think it's okay after the changes. Cheers, <font face="Agency FB" size="3"> NAYAYEN : TALK 14:25, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks Kasra. I don't have that much time right now to do anything other than working on my noms and continuing my review for Caedus but I'll see if I can find them time. <font face="Agency FB" size="3"> NAYAYEN : TALK 09:55, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ha, thanks, I go away for a few days and both my nominated articles pass and the KOTOR-era TOR timelines come out! <font face="Agency FB" size="3"> NAYAYEN : TALK 20:42, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Reviews
I will if I have time.  IFYLOFD  ( Floyd's crib ) 01:44, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Query
Well, I daresay I will get around to it at some point, but what I generally do is I give each nomination a review, and I work in order of nomination. It's fairer that way, I guess, but if Rawk's still there by the time I get that far down the page I'll certainly be giving it a review. Thefourdotelipsis 02:53, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Congrats
Thank you, Kasra. :) When you ever nominate an article in the GAN page, I'll be sure to review it whenever I have the chance.  JangFett  (Talk) 03:46, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Unidentified clone trooper (Tranquility)
Hey Kasra, it's my turn now :P Could you review that article? Thanks. -- 1358  (Talk) 14:37, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Blah, I meant his Captain, who is already nommed. :P -- 1358  (Talk) 04:36, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh well, I've nommed the clone trooper as well, so these two needs to be reviewed. Sorry for the confusion. :) -- 1358  (Talk) 15:21, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

CSWE, again
Hey Kasra, could you tell me what the CSWE says about the Reflex Amendment? Also, I've been unable to log onto my email for the past few days, so I haven't seen your image suggestions yet. I'll respond to you in regards to them as soon as possible, though. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 19:50, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's perfect; thank you so much, again! Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 06:22, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Suggestion
Depending on what your general interest is, I would choose one of those. As for WP:TCW, we generally do character or battle articles, sometimes events or miscellaneous things. TCW character articles are a little more straight forward than battle articles, if you know what I mean. Anything that has to do with season one, however, you may need to find quite a few sources, i.e, episode guides, visual guides, CSWE, both Clone Wars TCG, Season one guide. TCW comic and/or webcomic characters are a lot more simpler, though. For battles, the source hunt is the same, but they can be a little more complex. If you want great TCW battle article examples, CC did the majority of season one and a few of season two battles. You are always welcome to join WP:TCW, too. If you have any questions about the project, CC is the creator and leader so you can ask him. Cheers,  JangFett  (Talk) 03:04, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Facebook
Hey Kasra. Just letting you know that I saw the link to your Facebook profile on your userpage and sent you a friend request. :) &mdash; Master Jonathan  ( Jedi Council Chambers ) 22:47, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks, I appreciate the encouragement. I think that the article has improved since, so I'm getting there. If you could take a look at it that would be great. Again, thanks. May the Force be with you as they say. Coruscantfan 20:33, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Congrats
Hey, thanks! I didn't realize it had been approved until I saw your message! I'm excited to keep nomming articles. &mdash;fodigg  (talk) | 13:50, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Reviews
Sure, I'll start reviewing them. I probably should've done it earlier too, but I've recently been taking a break from GAN to check out the CA system and review Havac's massive Caedus nom (almost done). It's about time I get back to where I belong :D SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 06:56, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * All done, with only one objection to Marka. Back to Caedus now :) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 10:44, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

 * I saw the info and it'll definitely be helpful. Thanks for putting that up. :) Atarumaster88  Jedi_Order.svg ( Talk page ) 22:18, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Email
Could you resend them? Thanks. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 22:53, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I just got a chance to look at them&mdash;while I wouldn't oppose using them, I wouldn't oppose not using them either. They're all of the same basic quality of the current images, so if you would like to use them in the articles, feel free. The only one I actually disagree with is Mandalore, as the new one seems a little fuzzy, and I like being able to see him holding his own helmet and wearing his armor. But feel free to use the others, if you so choose. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 05:35, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's great that you emailed Kemp so we can properly name the Jedi. I've contacted Tranner about the email so he can update and link to the email. Thanks again! Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 22:37, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey Kasra. Would you happen to have a link to the email, one that I could use for referencing purposes in the article? Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 00:45, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Suggestions?
Hey Kasra; it's good to know that you're getting active in WP:TCW. Anything not listed in the self-explanatory individual projects section is free, so there are quite a lot of articles to choose from. I would suggest starting there. Hope that helps.  CC7567  (talk) 01:30, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

CSF
Ok, I think I'm done with the Coruscant Security Force. Go ahead and take a look. Thanks. Coruscantfan 23:03, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * On the linking: I tried to follow that idea, link at first opportunity, but I also tried to find a balance so that someone wanting to know about CSF only during the Legacy era, didn't have to look through the entire article for a link for the GAG. Because I have found that in articles and I waste a lot of time trying to find a link for something and I find in an obscure place somewhere at the beginning instead of where it was mostly discussed. So I tired to make links to topics where they were relevant the most. Coruscantfan 02:11, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, how does the member list look now? Coruscantfan 02:49, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. If someone else mentions it I guess I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. Coruscantfan 19:36, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Revan new pictures
Some new pictures for your article on Revan. Maxattac 23:16, June 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * from others:

Re:The Ark
It's not a matter of religion or anything like that, but rather it's interesting article. I'm a fan of Raiders of the Lost Ark, and since various people were talking about it on IRC, I thought it would be funny if I worked on the Ark. Originally it was intended to be a future CAN of mine, but its bts could bump the word count past 250.  JangFett  (Talk) 01:08, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I might work on it sometime in the future, but I have to work on various TCW articles. :P  JangFett  (Talk) 01:15, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Possibly he could be featured in that kid's TCW encyclopedia, considering "over 200" characters will be featured/mentioned. Other than Obi-Wan, Anakin, or any other major character, nothing else has been confirmed yet.  JangFett  (Talk) 02:50, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Review
Sure thing. I don't have a lot of time tonight, but I should be able to get to it tomorrow. :) Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk )

I got this one
Hey Kasra, first off thanks for taking the time to congratulate me on HK's success, it was greatly appreciated. I also want to applaud your initiative in improving the articles for the characters who were revealed just yesterday, namely the Unidentified Republic trooper. I'd like to get in on this little project before tackling Canderous, my next major one, so just letting you know I'd like to handle the Unidentified female Jedi. She reminds me of Bastila. :) Keep up the good work! JethLordMaster  (Xia Order) 05:11, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oops, just noticed you already had her listed on The Old Republic Project Page as one of your future projects. Sorry, I hope you don't mind! JethLordMaster Ying yang copy.jpg (Xia Order) 17:07, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Revan huh? An ambitious project to be sure, but an article of such importance deserves nothing less. Count me in! I'll be sure to start making any improvements I see and once Revan is put up for nomination I will zealously deal with any objections. Revan has always been on my list but has admittedly been a daunting project, but with a team I'm sure we'll pull it off! JethLordMaster Ying yang copy.jpg (Xia Order) 18:10, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Just letting you know I've done a bit of work on Revan already, namely expanding the Manaan section and incorporating the information from Timeline 8. In addition I've moved and added a few images where I thought they would fit. Feel free to speak your mind if you disagree with anything I've done and we'll work it out. I'm a bit curious as to what we'll do with the current Revan page though in terms of new edits being made. I noticed someone has still been adding recent information and there will probably be some conflict. JethLordMaster Ying yang copy.jpg (Xia Order) 22:47, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Query
Sure, I'll try to get to it tomorrow. Xicer9 ( Combadge) 04:20, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Very cool
Thank you; I appreciate the appreciation of it.  CC7567  (talk) 01:23, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Jon Antilles
Actually, is the one who worked on that article and FANed it. I just added a couple of sources. Xicer9 ( Combadge) 21:46, June 23, 2010 (UTC) Hi JK. I need some help regarding the date for the article. I'm planning to stick with the 4 months after Geonosis date then place a mention of the New Essential Chronology date on the Behind the Scenes. So 4 months after Geonosis translates to 22.4? or 21.4? Counting years is not my strongest suit. Thanks. ToRsO bOy 12:26, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey Jedi Kasra. Thanks for the review. I have no plans on Diath and Ven'nari so you're all clear, let me know if I can help in any way though. :) And feel free to add anything to the Antilles article. I'd hate to think that you've done extensive work on him only for me to nominate him first.ToRsO bOy 22:22, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's great. Yeah I'll be sure to check them out when you nominate them. I'm adding some additional sources for the Dark Woman's other Padawans, and I'm not sure if it's the right format. I essentially copied the one you did with the New Essential chronology, sans the ref tags.ToRsO bOy 22:41, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * So 21.7 BBY is equivalent to 4 months after Battle of Geonosis? I thought otherwise which is why I placed a note on the BTS about the different dates from two sources. ToRsO bOy 22:45, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * I've sent MJ a message already. He seems like he knows his way around how years are presented. Saw the edits you made on the other nomads, looking forward to seeing them on the FAN nom page. :) ToRsO bOy 22:57, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nah don't worry about it. It's cool. ToRsO bOy 23:04, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Likewise for the Bothan-whose-name-I-can-never-get-right and Diath. Shame the three of them aren't featured right after another. :D ToRsO bOy 18:47, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Re:
That was absolutely incredible. I cannot wait for Decieved. Truth be told, I'm a little jealous of Tranner for having already promoted Malgus&mdash;as more info comes out I like the character more and more. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 23:00, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Galaxy Source
It's technically not part of the main line, but he's featured on a few artist sketch cards for the series. In fact, KotOR characters seem to be the most popular as far as the EU goes for artists. People have done sketch cards for Revan, Nihilus, Sion, Bastila, Carth, Kreia, HK-47, Brianna, etc. I'd add it to all of their Sources lists, but I'm a little overwhelmed at the moment. =P Xicer9 ( Combadge) 01:40, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re: FF 128
Yep, both pages mention the Jedi on that mission collectively, but Fay is the only one mentioned individually by name. Xicer9 ( Combadge) 23:39, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Vizsla FAN

 * Did not know that. Thanks. Moon Demon 19:33, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Dace
As far as what? Looking at his appearances list will tell you what you need to know. If you want more specific information, I won't be able to get it to you until tonight. As far as the Sidrona Diath thing, that's in the Tales of the Jedi Companion, though I'm not sure if that's what you are asking for. —Tommy 9281 00:00, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * He definitely is. This image is from that comic. —Tommy 9281 00:12, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

CT Change
As per some additional discussion, an addition has been made to the wording of the "Creation of a CAN removal process" section of the comprehensive articles CT. Please take a look and make sure that you still support the amended proposal. Thefourdotelipsis 02:47, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Further amendments have been made to the "Grey Cadre" section of voting as well, specifically the outlining of no self-votes being allowed, and the removal of the "vote bypass" clause in the trial page's rules section. Thefourdotelipsis 05:28, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Malak concerns etc
Hi! TBH, I'm not really "back" so much as making flying visits every now and again. Just a quick point regarding dev interviews, though: they're not canon sources. For example, if Chris Avellone said: "Kreia is actually Arren Kae" we could only put that in the Behind the Scenes section until that fact was published in an official SW supplement, because nothign actually tells us that -- for a fact -- in KotOR 2. Same went for when John and Jan gave us character ages for the Legacy cast: until their age or date of birth is mentioned in Legacy itself, it's not canon. So we should only be using the Jedi Civil War timeline video as a source when it comes to Malak, Revan and the Emperor. Sorry to be a pain! <font color="#mm6897"> Uli Talk 00:50, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Review query
Sure; I'll try to get them as soon as I can.  CC7567  (talk) 02:10, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Query
Sorry, I don't own either of the games. I know has Elite Squadron, so you could try asking him. I don't have either of those Fact Files, sorry. Xicer9 ( Combadge) 02:53, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Re: ESaEA
Thanks for the link and the offer Kasra. It'd be great if you could give it a review! Thanks! Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 03:18, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds great, I'll be looking forward to seeing your work on her. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 03:26, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Query about Neyo
Well, in Elite Squadron, he appears in stock footage from ROTS. And Renegade Squadron's customization feature has Neyo's helmet as one of the available head types for a Galactic Republic character. However, you can play for the Republic in non-storyline missions only, so I wouldn't count it as an appearance. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 10:30, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Sith magic
Hey JK,

How much do you know about Sith magic? Have you come across it in your travels? I've included what I've seen from KOTOR, but perhaps I'm missing something. Please let me know, thanks. —Tommy 9281 17:27, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Nomination tagging
When you nominate an article and post the FAnom or GAnom on the article, please try to indicate that you're tagging the article as a nomination by including something like "FAnom" or "GAnom" in the edit summary of the revision. It makes archiving nominations a whole lot easier, as the indicators will show up in the edit history if you do so. Thank you.  CC7567  (talk) 03:07, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Satele
Sure, I'll give it a look-through. I scanned it a little bit ago, but I'll read through it thoroughly soon. And I'd be happy to do a pre-nom review when the time comes. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 22:10, July 10, 2010 (UTC)