Wookieepedia:Good article nominations



This page is for the nomination of good articles. This is not a way to showcase the articles of your favorite characters, spaceships, or the like. For a list of good articles, see Category:Wookieepedia good articles.

What is a Good article?
A Good article is an article that adheres to quality standards, but cannot reach FA status due to its limited content.

A Good article has the following attributes.

1. It is well written. In this respect:


 * (a) it has compelling prose, and is readily comprehensible to non-specialist readers;
 * (b) it follows a logical structure, introducing the topic and then grouping together its coverage of related aspects; where appropriate, it contains a succinct lead section summarizing the topic, and the remaining text is organized into a system of hierarchical sections (particularly for longer articles);
 * (c) it follows the Manual of Style, Layout Guide, and all other policies;
 * (d) necessary technical terms or jargon are briefly explained in the article itself, or an active link is provided.

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable. In this respect:


 * (a) it provides references to any and all sources used for its material;
 * (b) sources should be selected in accordance with the guidelines for reliable sources;
 * (c) it contains no elements of original research.

3. It is broad in its coverage, addressing all major aspects of the topic (this requirement is slightly weaker than the "comprehensiveness" required by WP:FA, and allows shorter articles and broad overviews of large topics to be listed);.

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy. In this respect:


 * (a) viewpoints are represented fairly and without bias;
 * (b) all significant points of view are fairly presented, but not asserted, particularly where there are or have been conflicting views on the topic.

5. It is stable, i.e., it does not change significantly from day to day and is not the subject of ongoing edit wars. This does not apply to vandalism and protection or semi-protection as a result of vandalism.

6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic. In this respect:


 * (a) the images are properly sourced and have succinct and descriptive captions;
 * (b) a lack of images does not in itself prevent an article from achieving Good Article status.

Nomination of Good articles
To nominate an article for Good article status, list it here. Nominated articles must meet all six requirements stated above. If an article has a total of five votes after at least a week since it was nominated (beginning the day of its nomination) and no objections (or the objections have been stricken or overridden), the article will be considered a "Good article" and tagged with the template. The talk page will also be tagged with the GA template. For complete instructions on archiving nominations please see here. Also remember to add GAnom at the top of the article you are nominating.

(+1)
Support
 * 1) I've done a good amount of work on this article. A lot of referencing. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)   talk 04:43, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Inspected via AIM and all my quarrels have been taken care of. --Squishy Vic (discussion) (contributions) 05:13, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Sure, well sourced, good expansion Enochf 17:56, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Certified by the board of Ataru. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 03:27, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) My objections have been satisfied. 03:28, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Oppose Comments
 * 1) Toprawa:
 * 2) * Kinda don't know where to start with this one, so I'll begin by saying let's not just vote on articles because we like the concept of the article itself.
 * 3) * That being said, this isn't even an article. It's a stub with sourcing.
 * 4) **Much better! Now we have an article on our hands. :) Toprawa and Ralltiir 06:32, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) * The intro needs to be expanded.
 * 6) **--It's been expanded. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)   talk
 * 7) * The first paragraph of the history section isn't sourced.
 * 8) **--Its sourced now. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)   talk
 * 9) * There really shouldn't be any information restrictive to the infobox.
 * 10) **--I believe all info in the infobox is included within the article. (excluding eras, of course)
 * 11) * There's no section describing the droid model.
 * 12) ** --Created. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)   talk
 * 13) * There's no BTS.
 * 14) **--Now there is. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)   talk
 * 15) * Your source list doesn't appropriately match the Notes and references. Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:27, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 16) **--I've fixed that. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)   talk
 * 17) * The first section should be titled "Characteristics"
 * 18) **(Done.) -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)   talk
 * 19) * Now you don't have a "History" section
 * 20) **(Added.)-- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)   talk
 * 21) * "Design flaws" should be a subsection of the new "Characteristics" section, not its own section
 * 22) **(Done.) -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)   talk
 * 23) * Introduction should not be sourced in this case. Intro should not have any info not also found in the article body.
 * 24) **(Fixed.)-- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)   talk
 * 25) * I'm not sure why you sourced the non-canon appearances. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:59, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 26) **(All of your quarrels listed have been fixed.) -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)   talk
 * 27) *One of your appearances or sources needs to indicate when the droid was first identified as the "Q-series" droideka.
 * 28) **I'm not sure I know what you mean. In the article, the "Q-series" title for the droideka is first mentioned in the intro, where I can't source it. Are you asking which source first came out with the Q-series and dubbed it so?-- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)   talk 00:47, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 29) ***A tag is there. --  Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)   talk 11:04, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 30) ****You need a tag. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:25, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 31) *****Done. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)  (Chow)
 * 32) ******Now you have two 1stID tags. They can't both be the first. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:04, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 33) *******Fixed. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)  (Chow) 17:14, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 34) *Also, please format your responses as they appear above so as to not interfere with other users' comments. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:48, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 35) As Tope has said, this surely needs major expansion before GA ready. --Eyrezer 06:14, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 36) There are appearances in the source list, and, puzzlingly, things repeated in both lists. Thefourdotelipsis 06:41, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 37) *Is that bad? -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)   talk 06:47, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 38) **Quite. I touched it up for you, though. Also, for future reference, sourcebooks, such as RPG materials and books like the Essential Guides and Visual Dictionaries go in the ==Source== field, and novels, comics, books, and video games go in the ==Appearances== field. 15:42, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 39) From Jorrel Fraajic
 * 40) * Are you sure on some of those sources? If Ep. III was its first appearance, how did it appear in Ep. II? Also, I'm almost positive both Lego Star Wars entries aren't accurate; unless it states somewhere in the booklet or Prima guide that they are Q-series, they didn't "technically" make an appearance. I'm pretty sure this applies to many of your sources (FoC, being another one - if it does appear there, let me know).
 * 41) * A lot of this information seems to apply as a general overview of the Droideka, not specifically the Q-series. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 * 42) *Those are the two major ones I see. Sourcing-wise, it's very good. How accurate the sources are, however, could be a different matter. 15:42, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 43) **--The original model of the droideka was very similar to the Q-series droideka, that's why a lot of the info seems to be a general of overview of the droideka. Also, the Prima Official Guide for LEGO Star Wars: The Video Game and the guide for LEGO Star Wars: The Complete Saga both list the droideka model as Q-series. I forgot to source this, and will do it now. Thirdly, it was my mistake adding AotC in the appearances. Lastly, the Q-series droideka was the main droideka model manufactured after the Battle of Coruscant featured in RotS, the source being the novel I recently read, but I also forgot to source this; that's why most appearances are after the time of RotS. Thanks for notifying me. What is FoC, though? --  Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)   talk 16:11, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 44) ***Alright, that's good. Now that things are source, it makes more sense. Had not known about the Prima guides, so good to that as well. Also, FoC = Empire at War: Forces of Corruption. 16:21, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 45) ****I'll remove that. Is there anything else? (I'm currently creating the article LEGO Star Wars: The Complete Saga: Prima Official Game Guide so I can source the game.) -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)   talk 16:30, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 46) *****I see nothing else. And good, with both the creation and removal. ;). 03:28, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 47) From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * 48) * I didn't change this because I wasn't sure, but I'm used to seeing the Confederacy abbreviated as "CIS", not "C.I.S." If it's that way in the source, then keep it.
 * 49) * Need a bit more context on the Colicoids in the intro. Doesn't quite flow very well where the way it's currently structured.
 * 50) * If possible, detail what exactly was upgraded from W-series to Q-series.
 * 51) * From what I've played of Republic Commando, I don't recall them identifying the droidekas as Q-series specifically. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 * 52) **All information, such as the droideka dispenser bit, that's referenced from Republic Commando will need to be removed if the droids in question are not actually Q-series.
 * 53) * Present tense in the Design Flaws section is absolutely unacceptable.
 * 54) * Kindly check with other droid GAs to ensure that you're following precedent on organization/sectioning. I'm not sure, but I have a sneaky suspicion that it's not exactly in line.
 * 55) * "Additionally, there were limits when a droideka could fire at a target." Reword this sentence. I get what you're going for, but there has to be a better way to say it.
 * 56) * While this might not be a concern for GA, it'd be nice to have Galaxies information included in the article. (From Star Wars Galaxies: An Empire Divided)
 * 57) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 19:30, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 58) I hate to be Imp, but that second image is distorted as hell and just overall horrible. It needs to be reuploaded or ditched. Havac 02:33, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 59) History section needs expansion, and is missing Galaxies info. Also, nothing from the NEGTD? Also, and pardon me if I'm being thick here, why is the Episode I visual dictionary where the majority of stuff comes from when this subject first appeared in Episode III? Could also do with a {[1stID]} and a lead quote. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 07:32, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 60) *I will expand the history, and add Galaxies info. The reason that the majority of the references come from The Visual Dictionary is that the original droideka and the Q-series droideka are very similar in design, so many of the characteristics of the original droideka apply to the Q-series. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)   talk 08:12, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 61) *The history has been expanded. As far as the Galaxies info, I haven't played the game myself, but upon searching through the article itself I could not find any information relating to the Q-series droideka. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)   talk 08:44, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 62) **If you want to use the Episode I VD, then you'll need to provide a source stating that the Q-series had everything the other droideka had. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 17:22, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 63) ***That has been done; Revenge of the Sith: Incredible Cross-Sections, a book about vehicles and droids. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)   talk 23:11, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 64) ****Could you post a quote? It's not that I think you made it up or anything, but I'd like to make sure it's not been misinterpreted or anything. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 14:27, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 65) Are they definitely Q-series in Survivor's Quest and Battlefront? Frankly, half the article looks like you've taken info about the regular droideka and used it for the Q-series's article. Unless models appearing are specifically identified as Q-series, then the info cannot be included. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 22:00, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 66) *I've added an additional quote. As for the rest of the article, well, yeah, some of the information is the same, because it has to be, since, like I said above, there are very few differences between the original droideka and the Q-series. And yes, in some of the levels, the type of droideka is Q-series, specifically because the only type of droideka that was produced after the Battle of Coruscant was Q-series, because of its upgrades. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)   talk 20:16, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 67) **Sorry; what I meant by "quote" was the quote (to be listed here, not on the article) from ROTS:ICS which establishes that the Q-series had everything the original had. Also, unless a source either states outright or indicates (i.e. it's stated the droid was produced after Coruscant, or any special features unique to the droid are described) that the droideka in it is a Q-series, the info cannot be included in the article. Please try and format your responses as other have been. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 22:00, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 68) ***I can't find the quote from the book, but all appearances that do not outright state that the droideka is Q-series have been removed. What do you need me to do? Though I can't find the source, it's fairly obvious that the original and Q-series were almost exactly the same; a simple examination and comparison between the two shows this.-- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)  (Chow) 19:04, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll note that while a Behind the scenes (BTS) is often preferred in articles, a BTS is not required per the current GAN rules. It's fine to ask if one can be created using any available information, but it's not a requirement, per se. Greyman  @wikiajanitor ( Talk ) 05:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * A stub worth sourcing? I've seen shorter articles than this. -- Joe Butler Obi Maul12   talk 05:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you remove your opposition, or what else needs to be done? -- Joe Butler Obi Maul12   talk 06:36, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Obimaul, you should never touch or edit another person's comments on a page without his or her permission. I originally posted my comment above because that's where I wanted it to be seen. Please don't move it into the "Comments" section like you did. Also, my objections will not be "removed." You will know when they are no longer in effect when they are stricken, as the first two currently are. And, only I can strike my own objections. A nominator should never do that himself. Toprawa and Ralltiir 06:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright, sorry. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)   talk 12:47, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Quick question to the GA faithfull: Are there guidelines on how sources are "implied" or not? 15:42, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Comments

(+5)
Support
 * 1) Nominated ajeanette 20 May 2008
 * 2) Darth Xadún ( Consult the Holocron ) 19:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Goodwood  [[Image:Redstarbird.svg|20px]] ( Alliance Intelligence ) 04:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 02:15, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Jedi Kasra 06:09, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) I hope to see more from you, Ajeanette. It should get easier from here. —Tommy ( There are no Jedi here ) 16:25, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) *Thanks for all your help! I will do my best to preserve the good quality of this article and continue to make any improvements. I have some free time this summer to continue to make contributions, although I think I will choose a simpler article for my next project. Ajeanette 12 June 2008

Oppose
 * 1) Toprawa:
 * 2) *Not bad, but pretty rough around the edges. Here are the things I notice without even reading the article:
 * 3) * Intro should be expanded
 * 4) **I added a few more details about her background and the situation she encountered. ajeanette 22 May 2008
 * 5) *These one sentence sections are not good. They need to be either expanded or condensed into other sections. They look especially bad considering your one section is six paragraphs long. There's just no presentation feel to the article. Sectioning needs major work.
 * 6) **The second and third sections still need work. Six paragraphs in a single section of an article this size is a little overdone, and the little bit about her emergence from stasis still doesn't warrant its own section, at least not the bit amount allotted. Better section division, please. Toprawa and Ralltiir
 * 7) ***Addressed Ajeanette 10 June 2008
 * 8) * Your last section title is not exactly encyclopedic.
 * 9) * We don't capitalize "Galaxy" anymore.
 * 10) * Please don't put spaces in between punctuation and referencing. A minor issue, but a formatting issue nonetheless.
 * 11) * Your images should alternate from right to left down the sides of the page, which they do not.
 * 12) *If you handle these, there will be a more detailed Round 2. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:46, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 13) **Ajeanette, a nominator must never strike objections for someone else. That is left up to the reviewer only when they are satisfied their concerns have been handled. Please do not do that again. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:35, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) *** Understood ajeanette 27 May 2008
 * 15) The Anvil:
 * 16) * With all the images that have popped up for this chick, the profile shot just isn't a good one for the main image. One in particular sticks out as being more appropriate (Image:Celeste KOTORcover.jpg)...
 * 17) * That being said, your image layout could use some work. Try not to have the images on the left displacing the section titles, and make sure that the three images you have placed in the article are evenly spaced, so as not to appear cluttered in one area or another.
 * 18) * In the intro, you say: "Celeste Morne was a female Human Jedi Knight who served the Jedi Covenant as a Shadow, an agent whose records of their existence had been erased and were known only to a few of the Covenant's members." Clunky prose, should be reworded.
 * 19) * (In the intro) You go on to say, "Her losses from the Great Sith War channeled her dedication to the cause of the Covenant to stop the Sith from rising again." Her involvement in the GSW must have been significant enough for a brief mention. And, what did the War cause her to lose?
 * 20) * (Intro still) "In 3,963 BBY the Covenant assigned her a mission to retrieve an ancient Sith artifact known as the Muur Talisman and kill Zayne Carrick, the Jedi Padawan fugitive." Please reword.
 * 21) * (Intro still) "However, in the course this mission she doubted Zayne's criminal charges and faced off against the rampant Rakghoul plague, caused by the Muur Talisman, infecting the Mandalorian invasion force on Jebble." You make it sound as though she fought the plague. It sounds to me more like she encountered it.
 * 22) * (Intro still) "In the course of her struggle to complete her far more complicated mission and dealing with her own doubts about Carrick, Celeste fell under the possession of the Muur Talisman." Clunky prose, should be reworded.
 * 23) * Early career section: You start by saying, "After the destruction of Ossus, Celeste's family became homeless and wandered the Galaxy for years until they fell apart". I feel like I was just dropped head-first into the story. I think that each of the things mentioned in this sentence could be fleshed out, ie: the destruction of Ossus, what about it caused her family to become homeless, why they fell apart.
 * 24) **I hope this helps. Ajeanette 10 June 2008
 * 25) * Next sentence, "However, Celeste found herself a new family in the Covenant as a secret agent devoted to stopping the rise of the Sith in the galaxy again." Who is this Covenant you speak of? If the rise of the Sith needs to be stopped again, what happened with them the first time that makes them doing it again so significant?
 * 26) * Same section, please explain who Lucien Draay & Zayne Carrick are, and why did Draay want him captured.
 * 27) * Same sentence: "Around 3,963 BBY Lucien Draay contacted her and gave her the task of eliminating Zayne Carrick, before the Covenant feared he would become a Sith, and finding the Muur Talisman on Taris." Please reword this, probably breaking it up somehow. You've got three separate topics in this one sentence.
 * 28) * Next paragraph. What are rakghouls?
 * 29) * Too many semicolons there.
 * 30) * "The Muur Talisman" section. First, I think a better section title is warranted, maybe something like "The Quest for..."
 * 31) * Same section. Who is Pulsipher? Like the rakghouls above, this needs to be briefly explained.
 * 32) * You've got the phrase "on board" in there just too many times.
 * 33) * Ship names are always italicized.
 * 34) * What is the "War forge"? It should be explained at its first mention.
 * 35) * Same section, you say, "However, Gryph accidentally discharged his weapon causing a cave-in, which caused Celeste to lose her lightsaber and alerted the Mandalorians from the Mar'eyce to their presence. Before Celeste and Zayne could be taken hostage, one of the guards transformed into a Rakghoul, dropping Celeste’s lightsaber in the process and forcing the other guards to fire on their former comrade." How did the guard acquire her lightsaber after she dropped it?
 * 36) * Same section: You say, "When Zayne went off in search of Gryph, she followed, cutting down the Rakghouls that she encountered." Where did Gryph go? I thought he was still with them.
 * 37) * In the "Emerge from stasis" section, you say, "However, Celeste was not dead but still in stasis inside the apparently impregnable oubliette, where she remained for almost 3,950 years until around 19 BBY." Reword please, as apparently is POVish.
 * 38) * Same section. You've switched tenses a couple of times. Please fix.
 * 39) * BTS could be expanded alot.
 * 40) **I searched around sites and blogs, but have yet to find much worth mentioning. I had problems finding reference for the point which states that "Celeste" and "Morne" appear in the random name generator in Knights of the Old Republic Sith Lords, so for now I just used the game as a reference. Ajeanette 10 June 2008
 * 41) * This girl has quotes up the yin-yang on the QOTD, yet only two for the article? Surely you can do better!
 * 42) *Don't mind the "surely you can do better" thing, It's just a sweet Dooku line that I thought kinda fit the situation. You've done a splendid job thus far. Also, Ajeanette, dont be discouraged by what seems to be a long list. I was there before, and it helped me tremendously. If any of the objects are giving you a problem rectifying, I'll be more than happy to help you, because that's what we're about. Just ask if so ;) —Tommy ( There are no Jedi here ) 03:11, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 43) **Tommy, what you said I have found to be true and I am glad to go through this process and learn how wookiepedia constructs good articles. I was a bit overwhelmed by your list, but I understand the importance of addressing these points that I am thankful you brought them up. I am in the process of correcting each one and I appreciate all the help I have received from other editors that have improved Celeste Morne. The only point I might bring up is that finding more information for "Behind the Scenes" may take more time for me. ajeanette 30 May 2008
 * 44) ***Hey thats cool, it was that way for me too. Don't stress too much about the BTS. KOTOR isn't really my timeframe, so I don't have/know much about Celeste. I'm sure you'll be able to work it out. I'll see what I can add, if anything. Take your time, my very 1st nom sat here for a month before the wheels started turning. When this one finally passes, you'll have stepped your game up;) —Tommy ( There are no Jedi here ) 17:11, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * I've fixed all of the spelling mistakes. Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 02:15, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

(+4)
Support
 * 1) Think I got everything.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 11:50, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) As a fan of alien species and cultures, I found this fascinating. Roll with Topwara's hammerblows, Commander Jadson. Darth Xadún ( Consult the Holocron ) 10:24, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) I'm going to vote for this on the assumption that this is merely Stage 1 of the process of putting this article together. Everything is there, but it's really just summarized, and not comprehensively explained. After looking at some of these sources myself, many things could definitely be fleshed out, and I have no doubt an expansion could bring this thing to 1000 words. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:58, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) As Toprawa and Ralltiir said, this is good for now, but could be expanded to FA quality. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 00:25, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Toprawa, Round 1:
 * 2) * Infobox not fully sourced
 * 3) **Stupid. Fixed.
 * 4) * Your intro is painfully short
 * 5) **Expanded.
 * 6) * Section titles should match the Layout Guide.
 * 7) **I tried to fix it. If it's still not right, could you explain how?
 * 8) ***It's correct. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:45, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) * Please, oh please, do not link articles to wikipedia. Take the effort and make an article for the Wook. Toprawa and Ralltiir 16:57, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) **We've done that for other articles. It's on a topic that I don't really know anything about (read the Wikipedia article and see if you can comprehend it) and I'm not sure how to make it simpler. I'll see if I can find an FA with Wikipedia links.
 * 11) ***It's been done with other articles because people are too lazy to make an article themselves. It's a poor practice that needs to stop. If you can't make an article for it, leave it as a red link. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:10, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) **** As the person who put that link in when expanding it from a stub, I'd like to point out three things: (1) At the time, we hadn't established that every real-world scientific concept which is almost exactly the same IU as in the real world needed an article, so I put a Wikipedia link in so the concept could be explained to readers who didn't understand the term; (2) I still don't think an article is necessary or even desirable for every such topic, but that's a debate for elsewhere (where most of you would probably disagree with me); (3) although the Gotal/H'nemthe situation clearly is convergent evolution, I don't know if the sources actually use those words. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 21:44, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 13) *****If these terms are not canonically used, then I think it would be best to avoid them. If so, then an explanation of the real-world equivalent in the BTS would be appropriate, where then the wiki links can be used as an OOU substitute. IU linking to OOU concepts, however, doesn't fit well. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:57, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) ****** It's a minor enough detail of terminology that removing the words and the link is OK, as far as I'm concerned. Explaining convergent evolution in the BTS would strike me as a bit superfluous. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 22:51, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 15) *I removed it, on the basis that it's OR, as those terms are not actually used.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 19:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 16) Round Two:
 * 17) * Can we link these "common names" to something? I'm assuming they're of individuals who do, or should, have articles. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:45, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 18) **Actually, they are no individuals named such that I'm aware of. These are simply common names invented by UAA. We don't link to these for other species GAs.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 21:27, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 19) ***That's fine. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:58, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Comments If I might suggest some quotes (all of them from Nightlily: The Lovers' Tale): -Skippy Farlstendoiro 15:33, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No quotes available? --Eyrezer 03:29, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * -"Are you truly sure, beloved? Mating is such a solemn thing, such an awe-inspiring thing..." (M'iiyoom Onith, reflecting on the importance of mating)
 * -"Nightlily, you mean... Everything. Everything to me". "Oh... Oh... Oh, Trevagg. That we should have met like this-that you should come into my life like this.." (Feltipern Trevagg and M'iiyoom Onith, talking about two different things)
 * "The word for 'love' in one language is the word for 'dinner' in others." (Ithorian proverb)
 * "After mating, H'nemthe females gut the males with those tongues of theirs-they're as sharp as sword blades, and a lot stronger than they look. Some kind of biological reaction to there being twenty H'nemthe males for every female. The males seem to think it's worth it, to achieve the act of love. I saw them together in the can-Una, but I didn't think Trevagg was crazy enough to try to bed the girl." (Wuher) "He was always bragging about being such a great hunter. You'd have thought he'd sense it coming." (Balu) "How could he? For her, it was the act of love, too." (Wuher again; possibly only the two last lines for this quote)
 * Thank you. These look good.

(+3)
Support
 * 1) Thefourdotelipsis 12:54, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) —Tommy ( There are no Jedi here ) 11:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 13:59, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) The Anvil:
 * 2) * I'm sorry, but at least for the individuals & the Fair Game, there should be something other than a redlink. I'm cool with stubs, I've had to create plenty of them for this reason ;)
 * 3) * No quote for the "Captaincy" section?
 * 4) * —Tommy ( There are no Jedi here ) 17:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) **Eh, there's no rule for either of these. For FA I'd be inclined to do so. Maybe at some stage I'll de-redlink it, but since it's not a rule, as far as I can see, I don't see how these objections are legitimate. Thefourdotelipsis 08:13, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) *** I know there aren't rules for these things, but that wasn't my reasoning. I just feel like if I want to know more about these subjects, I'd have to ask you as opposed to being able to just click the link & find out for myself, thats all. The first objection was spawned out of curiosity. And the quote thing isn't a big deal, I just figured you'd be able to find another with relative ease. If not, that's fine as well. —Tommy ( There are no Jedi here ) 09:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) ****Well, you did ask nicely. :P So I've got those four stubs there now, but as for the quote, I tend to like to use them in articles where they were actually uttered, and the captaincy section is all prior to the adventure. Still, in future, if you have requests like this that aren't actually objections, it's probably a safer bet to ask them in the Comments section, so you don't have to experience lazy/grouchy 4dot again. :P Thefourdotelipsis 10:17, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * Sorry about the quality of the images...if anyone can replace them with better ones, it'd be much appreciated. Also, I don't see a redlink rule, so I gotta plead ignorance here. Plus, those of the "a redlink is better than a stub" camp should be pleased. Thefourdotelipsis 12:54, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

(+2)
Support
 * 1) Yrfeloran 03:07, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) --Eyrezer 11:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Greyman ( Talk ) 18:34, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Oppose Comments
 * 1) It should probably have some more pics. --Eyrezer 06:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *More pics added. Yrfeloran 19:13, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) From the Gatekeeper of Xadún's holocron:
 * 4) * The opening sentence requires refinement, as 'woman' is a term usually associated with Human females, and we know nothing of where she was from. Suggest 'Mdam Rhoden was a female of an unidentified species and hailed from Yorn Skot', with a link to unidentified species, then go on to describing family ties etc.
 * 5) **Eh, if you can use women for Tuskens, I don't see that this is an issue. Yrfeloran 18:48, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) *** I think you've misunderstood me. My point was that it is a fairly non-descript way of opening an article. Using your Tusken example, the opening gives the name, alternate terms, and their hailing planet in the first line. This is the basic format for character articles, naming species and homeworld or world of residence. Hence, see my example above.
 * 7) ****The issue is that that forcing "female of unidentified species" in there is both clunky writing and kind of unnecessary. I've done some adjustments and linked 'List of unidentified species' in the infobox. Yrfeloran 22:26, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) * The intro does not mention the confrontation with Rhoden's husband, the detonation of the bomb or her subsequent death.
 * 9) **Changed to explicitly mention the confrontation, but she didn't die. Yrfeloran 18:48, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) * Remove the link from 'Lot 44C'. The redlink looks untidy and to give the lot an article in it's own right would be pointless.
 * 11) ** Sure Yrfeloran 18:48, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) * The following quotes all appear to switch between italics and normal text at unusual places. Granted, this may be from the text, but i can't check that. -
 * 13) **"I've seen enough core bombs in my life to know what I saw. That kind of detonator can only trigger high-yield explosives on a chromium switch, and only core bombs use remotely triggered chromium fuses."
 * 14) **"Can't you see I'm talking to the lovely -- and might I add potentially independently wealthy beyond her wildest dreams -- young lady here?"
 * 15) **" First, I'm going to take your mining station to cover what you owe me." "Then I'm going to take everything else." "And then I'm going to give it all back to her for being so doggone lovely ".
 * 16) **From the text Yrfeloran 18:48, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 17) * "At that point, the group of pressure pirates who had been plotting to steal the vessel showed up, and began to board it." Change this sentence please, as 'showed up' is a poor description for an encyclopedia.
 * 18) **Tweaked Yrfeloran 18:48, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 19) *I am assuming the second bomb core killed all aboard the Aurorient Express, and no-one escaped? Please confirm this at the end of the article.
 * 20) ** Uh, no, I mentioned everybody was evacuated. Yrfeloran 18:48, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 21) ***Sorry, misreading on my part.
 * 22) * "Madam Rhoden was attached to her possessions and what she felt were her possession, such as her chaughaine sweater and the Aurorient Express itself." Revise this sentence - it is unencyclopeadic. I recommend breaking it into two, first saying she was attatched to her possessions, and second saying she believed she had ownership oveer things that belonged to her spouses or lovers.
 * 23) **Eh, tweaked.Yrfeloran 01:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 24) * I would say that the P&t section could be expanded. Refer to her seduction of men for financial gain, her attractiveness to other males, etc.
 * 25) **There's really no seduction involved. Moegantz apparently just likes being treated like crap. Yrfeloran 01:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 26) ***Ok then.
 * 27) *Otherwise, pretty good. Additional kudos for the use of 'unbeknownst' in the article! Darth Xadún ( Consult the Holocron ) 11:25, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 28) "However, the Captain of the Aurorient Express, unwilling to be complicit in the destruction of the station, detonated the bomb aboard the empty life pod early." The article doesn't explain how/why the Captain had the detonator. --Eyrezer 23:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 29) I'd also appreciate a description somewhere of Rhoden's appearance. The BTS might be the appropriate place for it, perhaps mentioning the species has not been identified but its similar to X or Y. --Eyrezer 23:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Arguments about the article's title start here. Yrfeloran 03:07, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

(+1)
Support
 * 1)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  21:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Keep'em comin. —Tommy ( There are no Jedi here ) 21:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) By the looks of things, you've missed this Wizards source: Saga Edition Web Enhancement: The Pau'ans. There is also BTS info in the article on Star Wars that I added to the sources section. --Eyrezer 11:54, 30 May 2008(UTC)
 * 2) *Added. Thanks for the sources. There was not much BTS info though; most of it is better suited to Medon rather than the species.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 20:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) **You seem to have added info to the article without adding refs. Ie, the 57,000 year date is in the Wizards source, yet to that paragraph you've only added an EpIII reference. Furthermore, the referencing has only been done at the end of the paragraph, not the particular fact. Finally, the sourcing abbreviations need to be shortened. --Eyrezer 22:36, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) ***Stupid of me. Fixed.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 13:50, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) The BTS also seems rather patchy and short. --Eyrezer 22:37, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) *How is it now?  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 19:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) **Better. --Eyrezer 23:09, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) The Anvil:
 * 9) * Just one thing...I don't think the lead quote is appropriate. I know it's from Episode 2, but it doesn't relate to the species other than being what Obi-Wan said to one of them. I'd just remove it, if none others are available. —Tommy ( Clean face and hands ) The Anvil 22:40, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) **I'll go through the ROTS novel and see if I can find a better one, but a lead quote is important, so I'd like to keep this one if a better one cannot be found.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 13:50, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) ***Important, but not essential for GA. This quote is circumstancial - it doesn't reference anything to the Pau'an people. If you find a better one, it can always be added later. Darth Xadún ( Consult the Holocron ) 07:54, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) ****I've got no problem with that quote... --Eyrezer 23:09, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 13) *****I've seen other GAs with poor quotes. I've checked several sources, and have found no better quotes. I'll keep looking but I don't expect to find anything. If anyone has one, please add it.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 00:34, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) ******I'm fine with it also, no big whoop. And I agree with you Chack, I've seen some with poor quotes too ;) —Tommy ( There are no Jedi here ) 21:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 15) Finally, given that the Wizards article is over 3,000 words, and this one is only 800 I suspect there is still plenty of info missing from the article. --Eyrezer 22:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 16) *I think I just compressed it more, but I'll go through the article again and look for any missing info, and try to expand what I can here.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 13:50, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 17) **Expanded it last night. Should be much more comprehensive now.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 17:28, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * Another NEGAS nom.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 21:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

(+1)
Support
 * 1)  Drgns007 Sith Lord 03:40, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) It's got an expand tag on it. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 10:47, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) From Aqua Unasi
 * 3) * Some stuff in the article could use a bit more context and explanation as to who/what it is:
 * 4) ** "She did not want a repeat of Ducha Requud's unfortunate accident." What is this accident? Could you add a quick explanation?
 * 5) **" in case Taryn and Ben ran into problems" Could you un-pipelink Ben here, so people know that it's Ben Skywalker?
 * 6) ** The article seems to be assuming that the reader knows whats happening when it starts talking about "Trista stayed back to protect Livette in case Taryn and Ben run into trouble - What are they doing? Is it possible to explain without messing up the flow of the article?
 * 7) ** You could maybe add that Shedu Maad is a Hapan world, but thats a bit picky I guess :)
 * 8) * Okay, so if you add some of that in, hopefully the article will be a little longer, and then it might be nice if you could divide it into sections like an Introduction, a Biography and maybe a Personality and Traits section?
 * 9) ** I see you divided the article into sections - good. One thing I'd suggest about that is to put some of the stuff about Livette not dealing with normal Hapan vanities and such into the P&T section, instead of the intro.
 * 10) * Cool, good work. The article is much better now. It still could use a little work though.
 * 11) ** I'm not sure if the introduction is really a great overview of the article, now that you added about her gray hair and such in the P&T, you could summarize that part a bit and add about her being suspected of helping th Remenant, or something.
 * 12) *** Its a bit better now.
 * 13) **The prose in the article is a bit choppy, and in some spots, I'm a bit confused as to what is happening. I went through and cleaned it up a bit, but you might want to read through it and see if you think anything could be cleared up a bit.
 * 14) ** Also, with the referencing, I'm not exactly sure what the policy is when there is only one source, but I'm pretty sure that you don't need to have references in the article then, its assumed its all from its one appearance. Right now you just have one part sourced, and it looks kinda weird. :)
 * 15) ** In the infobox, it has "Imperial Remnant?" Is the questionmark necessary? Is she or isn't she? I actually haven't read Invincible yet, so thats a bit confusing to me.
 * 16) * Nice work! :)  Aqua  Unasi  22:20, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 17) Way too short. Expand, expand, expand. It starts off very suddenly, and is modeled wrong too.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 13:52, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * 1) Ok I'll try to do that, but maybe some you help me out.  Drgns007 Sith Lord 14:37, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *Thanks Aqua Unasi, I'll do that.  Drgns007 Sith Lord 18:45, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) **How's that?  Drgns007 Sith Lord 17:00, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) *** Better! I reviewed it again - see my comments above. :)  Aqua  Unasi  18:56, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) ****Ok, what do you mean summarize about her grey hair in the introduction? I thought it was already like that.   Drgns007 Sith Lord 19:13, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) *****In the introduction you have who she is and her job, and then you talk about her hair color and the blaster burn and stuff. I was trying to say that you're very specific about that, but not about the events of her life and such, and it's good to have a quick overview of that in your introduction. I guess saying to summarize it wasn't the best wording, since it is already summarized, but I just meant to maybe make the intro more, well-rounded, I guess.  Aqua  Unasi  19:24, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

(+4)
Support
 * 1) Thefourdotelipsis 06:51, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Second. —Tommy ( There are no Jedi here ) 03:11, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 12:35, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 4)  Aqua  Unasi  03:44, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Oppose

Comments

(-2)
Support


 * A lot of referencing about this popular exhibition including quite a number of images, links and full details of the tour. As far as I know the list of items is complete, as I attended it in 2003.Katana Geldar  10:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) It's just a list. With images next to the list, which is not how we're supposed to use images. There's about 120 words here, and whilst there's no word limit, there's no actual substance in this article at all. Information about its conception, development, any media coverage et cetera is needed here. Thefourdotelipsis 10:33, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Per Fourdot. —Tommy ( There are no Jedi here ) 14:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) There's really nothing even here but bulleted list of items. This exhibition was humongous, and the article should be just as huge. Contrary to what you claim, this does not have full details of the tour, but should to be considered a Good article. Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:12, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Comments

(+2)
Support
 * 1) Brought to you by the Random article button. Thefourdotelipsis 13:48, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Objections sorted over IRC. How can I not support a DarkStryder nomination? - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 14:48, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Back-scratcher. —Tommy ( There are no Jedi here ) 16:01, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Too many "eventually"s.  —Tommy ( There are no Jedi here ) 16:08, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *Expelled. Thefourdotelipsis 00:37, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Do we know the reason why Qesya killed Quyik?  Aqua  Unasi  03:50, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) *Yes, it was another gladiator match. I've mentioned that now. Thefourdotelipsis 08:15, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Comments

(-2)
Support
 * 1) Did some touching up. Should be good for GA status now. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)  (Chow) 15:47, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Oppose Comments
 * 1) Needs a major expansion. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 15:51, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *How so? You know of more information about him than presented in the article? -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)  (Chow) 15:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) **I added a "Personality and Traits" section anyway. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)  (Chow) 16:21, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) ***It's not that there's more info, it's that the level of detail currently there is stub-level. I haven't read his story in ages, but I know there's lots more detail available. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 16:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Per Acky. This could be, and must be, much longer to gain my vote.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 20:14, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) *Okay. I think I'll instead go for a character from a book I've read for a GAN. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)  (Chow) 21:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) Per above. This is a stub with appearances & refs. Cute, but not enough. Surely you can do better! —Tommy ( There are no Jedi here ) 17:28, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) Considering that whole parts of his story are either just touched upon, or not there at all, I'll have to go with the objections above. Greyman ( Talk ) 18:19, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

(0)
Support
 * 1) Done a large over haul I think its ready for GA now, but what ever happens I'm sure you will point out some things that will help me improve the article RC-1136 Copy 17:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Oppose Comments
 * 1) Chack:
 * 2) * Needs a longer intro and a BTS.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 14:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) ** Done, RC-1136 Copy 12:17, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) *"Sev had experience combating Battle Droids,Geonosians and Trandoshans." Uneeded
 * 5) **Deleted RC-1136 Copy 08:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) *What are Black Ops?
 * 7) **Explation there now RC-1136 Copy 08:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) *"...due to the fact that Boss had met the rest of the squad on the way to the rendezvous." I’d say this is unnecessary.
 * 9) ** Hmm... I left it in because the end of that paragraph is mainly introducing Boss and beacause I've tryed to make that explantion fit in with the flow it needed that to make it make sence (if you get what I mean) but if you still think it should be got rid of just say again and I will happily remove it RC-1136 Copy 08:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) *What room did they infiltrate?
 * 11) ** His Planning room, I belive RC-1136 Copy 08:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) ***actually I know know :), the adivisor says so, RC-1136 Copy 16:01, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 13) *The first sentence in that paragraph is a run-on.
 * 14) ** Once they infiltrated the planning room the squad quickly set about killing all occupants, despite this Sun Fac escaped to a landing pad, leaving two Super Battle Droids to cover his back? I don't see how thats a run-on, Probly just me being blind RC-1136 Copy 08:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 15) *Please correct your link to 1138 too.
 * 16) **Corrected RC-1136 Copy 08:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 17) *The second paragraph in Geonosis needs more explanation. It could also be written better to make it more interesting.
 * 18) ** Did you mean the bit about the core ship and the jamming device? well I expanded those, RC-1136 Copy 08:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 19) *The paragraph about the Prosecutor does too. Expound on things more.
 * 20) ** added a small amount, is it enough? RC-1136 Copy 08:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 21) *You use however too many times in the second paragraph of Mission with Omegas.
 * 22) ** However, now I don't :) RC-1136 Copy 08:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 23) *Also, your apostrophes are wrong in several cases there.
 * 24) **I didn't use any incorrect apostrophes. at lest not in Mission with Omegas. Some where else? RC-1136 Copy 08:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 25) *Give some context on Skuuma and de-link the second time it’s mentioned.
 * 26) ** Delinked, also added a bit of information about its location RC-1136 Copy 08:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 27) *Can the Mid Clone Wars section be expanded at all?
 * 28) ** Not really, I added five words *looks chuffed* RC-1136 Copy 08:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 29) *Why did she want Skirata to get there first?
 * 30) ** He I think you ment, I added a bit about Juskin explaning why he gave info to Kal RC-1136 Copy 08:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 31) *The last sentence in P&T is present tense.
 * 32) ** Changed RC-1136 Copy 08:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 33) *I'd move the first sentence in appearance up to P&T and get ride of that section, as there is little info.
 * 34) ** done RC-1136 Copy 08:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 35) Aqua Unasi
 * 36) * A very nice article, but it still needs a little work to be a GA. Main thing: the article's punctuation is, pretty bad. Some parts of the article entire paragraphs are written as one sentence, using commas in places of periods which makes it very difficult to follow it and read through it. I went through and tried to clean it up a bit, but in some places I didn't know exactly what it was trying to say. Here's a spot, for example:
 * 37) **Once they infiltrated the room the squad quickly set about killing all occupants, despite this Sun Fac escaped to a landing pad, leaving two Super Battle Droids to cover his back, Delta destroyed these droids and breached the door, however Sun Fac had already reached his Star Fighter and was heating up the engine, Boss quickly ordered Sev to take the fighter out from a sniping position, before Sev could do so, Sun Fac was in the air, however instead of running he stayed, obviously hoping to blow the squad apart with his laser cannons, but before he could do so, Sev downed his fighter.  - Thats all one sentence, and reads very play by play-ish. Could you touch this up, and see if anywhere else in the article it needs it?
 * 38) ***That should be done, but you'd best be the judge of that RC-1136 Copy 08:50, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 39) * The article needs to be fully sourced, so that includes the infobox, and every paragraph.
 * 40) ** However, the introduction does not need to be sourced. lol, So your reference there isn't necessary. :)
 * 41) ***'''Should be done RC-1136 Copy 08:50, 11 June 2008 (UTC}
 * 42) * Some of the sections are pretty short and talk about the events of Delta Squad, and not Sev in particular. - examples: Meeting Omega and the Mid Clone Wars. Is it possible to maybe combine these with other sections, or say something like, Sev, along with the Delta Squad, to keep the article about Sev, not just the events of Delta Squad.
 * 43) **Have changed that, People are going to think the Squad is called "Sev and the rest of Delta" now, also I combined Meeting Omega with Mission to Coruscant,and the Mid Clone Wars was originally two sections, So I'm not sure it would be a good idea to combine it with Ko Sai, Or Mission with Omega, What do you reckon? RC-1136 Copy 09:11, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 44) *** That's much better :)  Aqua  Unasi  17:52, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 45) * To someone not familiar with Delta Squad, some of these names are confusing. Fi, and Kal Skirata are introduced with no explanation, could you add context about them in the article?
 * 46) **Added an explanation for 'Kal, Fi, a small one for Atin and Sun Fac', if you spot any others please let me know RC-1136 Copy 08:50, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 47) *** Good! Now we know who everyone is - however, I can't find the explanation of Fi. Am I missing it?  Aqua  Unasi  17:52, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 48) ****Hmmm, how funny, I was sure I put that in, anyway its there now, well spoted RC-1136 Copy 18:30, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 49) * Finally, this paragraph: Regardless of how Sev developed his unique personality, it certainly aided the Deltas greatly when their covert operations turned into all-out warfare - reads very point of view-ish. I see you have it from a source, however it should still be presented in a NPOV way in the article.
 * 50) **Have touched up the Personality and traits section a bit, hope its ok now RC-1136 Copy 08:56, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 51) * Also, I believe that you can't have quotes in the middle of sections - only at the beginning of sections. So your quote at the bottom of Kashyyk needs to either be made the section header or removed.  Aqua  Unasi  17:52, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 52) **'''Done that, should be everything RC-1136 Copy 10:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 53) * This may seem like a lot, but this will help to (hopefully) greatly improve your article. Good work :)  Aqua  Unasi  03:32, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 54) **Ahh! overload :D. I'll do the best I can, and thanks for your help on the article, RC-1136 Copy 07:52, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

(+3)
Support
 * 1) Since Tommy requested a battle out of me, I've obliged him. - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 10:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Well done. I would have liked to see a quote or four, if you can. —Tommy ( There are no Jedi here ) 15:56, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Greyman ( Talk ) 18:25, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Oppose

Comments
 * I'm aware of the redlink to the Sarne campaign, and am working on the article on a subpage since it will be quite long. - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 10:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

(-1)
Support
 * 1) -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)  (Chow) 16:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Again, needs a big expansion. Have you actually read any of the sources? Because all you've done so far is source the article, and, (my apologies if I'm wrong, but) it looks suspect at that. I just looked at the Rebellion Era Sourcebook and he only receives two mentions, neither of which reference what you had used it to source in the article. This is not acceptable and will not endear you to your fellow editors. I plan to redo this article at some point myself, if no one else does. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 17:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *Okay, I'm dearly sorry; my edits are good faith. You can remove this nomination if you like. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)  (Chow) 17:10, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) The Anvil:
 * 4) *Missing the GAN header on the article page
 * 5) **Well, it's there now
 * 6) *No quotes?
 * 7) **Not as of now, no
 * 8) *The article needs to be completely sourced, including the infobox & each individual paragraph.
 * 9) **I sourced them, but they were removed because they were "suspect" (see above)
 * 10) ***You may want to then correctly source them, because without sourcing, this will never pass GA standards. —Tommy ( There are no Jedi here ) 15:32, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) *And these at a cursory glance. —Tommy ( There are no Jedi here ) 17:33, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) Needs to be fully sourced per rule 2(a). Greyman ( Talk ) 18:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * Obimaul, no offense, but if you're going to nominate an article, you should be prepared to do work on it, and not just remove it when you receive objections.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 19:03, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

(+3)
Support
 * 1) Thefourdotelipsis 10:13, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Very well done. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 11:45, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 12:11, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Oppose

Comments
 * Because Ryder Windham is awesome. Thefourdotelipsis 10:13, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Bastila Shan
Seems to fit the rules and I personally think it's a fantastic article. Devan2 20:37, 13 June 2008 (UTC) Oppose

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