Talk:Lightsaber/Legends

on/off switch
How do you turn on and off a lightsaber?. Is it a toggle switch or a hold switch? According to the philosepher Kenny Smiley, "I think you hold it down to turn it on" According to an opposing philosepher, Soupie Campbells "in episode 4, when luke skywalker first receives his fathers lightsaber from obi wan kenobi, he merely presses the activation switch"
 * I believe in the New Jedi Academy series in Expanded Universe, it was stated that the activation switch was customizable to the user's preferences. Some had it held to stay on, others had an on/off switch, and still others may have had other designs.
 * -71.240.247.22 16:18, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

snythisize
i quote from starwars visual dictionary about crystals "...and CAN NOT be synthisized" but luke synthisized his green one with stuff from obi wans hut and also in sith lightsabers they use sith SYNTH crystals86.112.200.118 11:47, 20 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Some sources are occasionally mistaken, such as in that instance. Vryce 06:37, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Star Wars Factfiles has a piece in the lightsaber parts about how Red crystals are synthesised as well HavetStorm 17:25, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Tonfa sabers appearing in Force Unleashed does not prove that Sinya was in fact using ones
Her Force Sensitivity has not been confirmed, an until it is, there is no more reason to attribute Sinya with tonfa sabers rather than energy swords, than to attribute the tapanis with Jedi lightsabers. I'm removing the reference. DarthMRN 03:13, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thats Discrimination just becuase she isnt a Sith/Jedi or even Force sensitive dose not mean there not Lightrsabers as we well know Boba Fett has used lightsabers as have other non-force users, I say untill they Tonfas are called somthing other then lightsabers thats what the article should remain as! - "Awar 09:29, 9 March 2007 (UTC)".

System Shock 2 in References outside Star Wars
You guys forgot to list the purple laser rapiers from System Shock 2 by Looking Glass Studios. This is the description from sshock2.com

Laser Rapier Mark IV: The Mark IV laser rapier is an advanced variation on the units first developed by TriOp before the Citadel crisis. The Mark IV consumes less power and is considerably more deadly. It has no particular flaws except its lack of a ranged attack and its relative expense to produce. --70.134.77.68 08:46, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Legacy lightsabers
as they all appear to be identical,and made out of the same coral like material.-User:KickAssJedi
 * Should we add something about the lightsabers the sith use in the legacy series

Lightsabers outside Star Wars
They are also used in the anime, Ideon, which was created by Tomino, maker of the original Gundam. The lightsabers are called Laser Swords, and are wielded by humans, as opposed to Gundam, where the beam sabers are only wielded by the Gundams themselves. 65.40.195.176 17:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

If a lightsabre was brought down on something thinner than the blade, what would happen?
Would it evaporate into nothing, or be split in two? --81.157.33.196 13:32, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Evaporate. Chack Jadson 16:06, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Superconductors
It was mentioned that superconductors from ship armor during the Sith Wars was a superconductor, which dispersed the saber's energy in Shatterpoint. Melts after extended exposure to the blade though. Just wanted to add something =)

Additional occurances outside of Star Wars
Is it worth adding the lightsaber weilded by 23 in Venture Brothers, or the quad-saber Control Freak (Teen Titans) used?

Yareal Poof's lightsaber
I am curious, how does his lightsaber get that buldge at the bottom? The Pure 501st 23:13, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi i have a question. Why turns the Lightsaber always of wen the Jedi drop it? Can sumbody help me Please? --213.67.126.63 19:23, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

i think wen the saber drops a curcit temp breaks but it recovers in secondsClonetroop125 00:26, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry to restart and old topic, but in answer: in I, Jedi, it's referred to as a deadman's switch...a mechanism put in place so that a lightsaber blade isn't flying around out of control if it's knocked out of a Jedi's hand. I think it can be deactivated, or the blade locked on, though, or else the Jedi just uses the Force to keep it activated during a saber throw. Jenosidanian 03:43, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Force Bending
Can a exeptionaly powerfull jedi or sith bend the blade of a light-saber? Also can a light whip be straitened by the force to form a masive lightsaber? 12:03 May 31
 * No. Chack Jadson 16:05, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Why?

Because it's impossible to bend energy.Bao-Dur&#39;s clone 19:15, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

No General Questions

 * Don't answer people's general questions on these pages- it only encourages them. Don't ask general questions either- go to the Knowledge Bank for that. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:29, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

blue
am i wrong most jedi have blue sabersClonetroop125 23:03, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * if you are talking about jedi of the old republic, then the most common colors were blue and green, but if you are talking about jedi in the new jedi order and legacy eras, they could use almost any colored blade they wantedMrhappy100 15:29, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

lightsaber error
hey there is a lightsaber error in epIV.when luke recieves his saber,the hilt is obi wans,but when the blade comes up its anakins saber.dont believe me?review your dvd and do a close up in that scene.if u find it tell me on my talk pageClonetroop125 00:16, 4 June 2007 (UTC) - Matga Grebun 16:46, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Just checked on the Special Edition and it's definately Anakin's lightsaber all the way through the scene. Not sure which version you're talking about.  You do know Obi-Wan is actually giving him Anakin's old Ep. III saber though, right?

Adding to Resisting the lightsaber
Vibroshield These could resist lightsabers.

Vianna D'Pow and the Lightwhip
I think that Vianna D'Pow should be added as one of the users of the lightwhip in the lightwhip paragraph, like it is in the actual Lightwhip article. What do you guys think?--Jedi Kasra 01:29, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

"Light Nunchaku"?
What would you call the weapon Kel Dor is wielding in this pic?



 Totema  Comlink Frequency 01:12, 23 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Nunchucks. Graestan 05:16, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Nunchuks? Did you grow up watching bad ninja movies?

The correct term for that would be Nunchaku.

However, the weapon the Kel'Dor Jedi is holding would be a Three-Section Staff, not a Nunchaku, which is smaller and a two-section weapon. --The truth hurts... 00:09, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

"Oh, snap, I broke my 1:72 scale Master Replica Sebulba Podracer fiber optic model. Totally screwed the collector's value now, haven't I?" -Unknown Kel Dor Jedi.


 * I think it's a San-Ni staff, the melee weapon favored by Jedi Master Waldan Bridger. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/San-Ni_staff Teemto


 * Nunchuks? Did you grow up watching bad ninja movies?

The correct term for that would be Nunchaku.

However, the weapon the Kel'Dor Jedi is holding would be a Three-Section Staff, not a Nunchaku, which is smaller and a two-section weapon. --The truth hurts... 00:09, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Also, it seems to be using power cuplings, similar to those found on Pod Racers. Not a Light Saber.

Game mechanic, not canon
The different models of lightsaber hilt in Jedi Academy are nothing but a game mechanic, so that you can customize you're lightsaber. I am certain that these models are not canon. You can also customize the head, gender and race of you're cheracter in the game, does that mean that Jaden Korr is a shape shifter in canon? NO! 65.27.139.162 09:06, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That's still speculation on your part, anon. Jaden Korr's story and the concept of multiple saber hilts aren't really all that conducive to analogy, anyway.  But, then again, from a canon perspective, they're both designed to be...flexible. --School of Thrawn 101 09:14, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you really think that the jedi had standard models of lightsaber that each one chose from? It is just a game mechanic, so that you can have a choice in what your hilt looks like. It could very well be canon that Jaden's first lightsaber and/or second one looked like some of these models and were even called them, I am certain that it is not canon that they each make or choose their lightsaber based on those specifications! What about all that stuff about jedi in both new and old orders making them individually? My argument is very much valid, and it is not speculation. There would have to be a pretty big retcon, in which they would ever implement, that would have jedi in the new order choose from these hilts. 65.27.139.162 09:49, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Then we must resort to what we know to be true. The hilt models appear in an LFL licensed game.  The game depicts an LFL licensed story and establishes, like other games before and after it, certain contributions to SW canon.  It is, therefore, a perfectly acceptable conclusion that the hilts are to be taken as existing within canon.  Besides, the article doesn't exclude other designs from existing during the NJO era.  It simply points out the various designs that have been specifically provided to the SW community.  I think that the wording of the article leaves it wonderfully open-ended. --School of Thrawn 101 10:00, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * "A number of hilt varieties of this lightsaber type existed during the time of the New Jedi Order, but it is unknown if Force-sensitives of other eras conformed to these standardized hilt options." Doesn't sound very open ended to me, 'conform to'?? Perhaps it should just be stated that they existed, rather than that they were 'conformed to'? 65.27.139.162 11:48, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It is very open-ended, it says "Known hilts were", which means there could have been (and most likely where) others. --Jedimca0(Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 11:57, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * "Conformed to", explain that please. "Conformed to these standardized hilt options", this too. It does not sound open ended to me. What I am against is how it implies that most jedi in the new order chose from these. Each jedi makes their own individualistic lightsaber, not 'one of the standard models'...65.27.139.162 12:00, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The meaning of that sentence was that these were standardized hilt options in the NJO era, but likley wasn't during other eras. It is not meant to in any way inply that these were the only options available, merely that they were standardized. I should know, as I wrote it. But if it gives such an impression, and you can think of a better wording, then by all means, edit the article. DarthMRN 13:58, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Dueling is Impossible
If a Lightsabre blade is just coloured light until it comes into contact with something, How can two lightsabres duel eachother?


 * JawaChiefEnter the Sandcrawler JawaTV My missions
 * You might want to read the article. Thefourdotelipsis 09:49, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

You're kidding, right? What the hell kind of Star Wars fan are you???

there not coloured ligth there plasma engery held in an eletromagnetic field. Xion1212 16:42, 22 July 2008 (UTC)xion

move
I suggest the creation of an article like Lightsabers in pop culture and move half of the BtS section there. Right now the article is awkwardly long. MoffRebus 15:04, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thats not a bad idea since the page is rather long! -- "Awar 12:01, 12 September 2007 (UTC)">

LIghtsabers outside sw
In the PlayStation 2 game Jak II Baron Praxis uses a green lightsaber when he tries to kill Kor and in the sequel, Jak 3, the precursor robot uses a big red lightsaber and also in ....

Anyone care to finish it? ...  or delete it? or anything? -- Kit  (Comlink)

In the comic book Grendel Tales: Devils and Deaths the character Zora has a plasma sword which she loses to a bigfoot like mutant creature who then bisects her. Grendel Drago, who had established a rapport with the creature plays a copying game using a flashlight to the creature's plasma sword. The creature activates the blade right under its chin, killing itself.

Short Lightsaber not the same as Shoto
A short lightsaber is not actually the same thing as a shoto. A shoto is a lightsaber with a shorter blade than usual, a lightdagger. However, a short lightsaber is a lightsaber with a shorter hilt not a shorter blade. Short lightsabers were useful for better wielding during 2-weapon fighting and while utilizing jar kai or if a person had a shorter height than most. Yoda wielded a short lightsaber. His hilt was shorter than most. However, the length of his blade was still the same length as regular lightsabers. It was a short lightsaber, but not a shoto. Luke Skywalker used shotos against Lumiya but not short lightsabers. Sora Bulq used a shoto but not a short lightsaber. Do you see the difference? It makes sense, because short lightsabers according to Kotor II and Kotor gave the wielder a better chance at wielding two weapons simultaneously effectively. While this was simply gameplay stats, we can infer than if a lightsaber had a shorter hilt, it would be indeed easier to wield when using two weapons. The short lightsabers shown in Kotor and Kotor II had the same length as the regular lightsabers but shorter hilt. Does anyone agree with me on this? Because I want to change the part of the article about the short lightsabers and shoto. Cyfiero 03:19, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, nevermind people. Cyfiero 05:34, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

If you look closely when yoda battles Darth Sidious his blade is indeed shorter.

Synth-crystal blade
In the article it says that a Sith synth-crystal blade coul rarely but still possibly "break" another lightsaber blade. Shouldn't it be mentioned that this was only possible when energized by the dark side of the Force?

"Though it rarely happened, a Sith synthetic crystal lightsaber blade was capable of overloading a regular lightsaber in combat, making it short out, thus giving the Sith a small psychological edge over their opponents." I think that should be changed to:

"Though it rarely happened, a Sith synthetic crystal lightsaber blade energized by the dark side of the Force was capable of overloading a regular lightsaber in combat, making it short out, thus giving the Sith a small psychological edge over their opponents." Cyfiero 03:50, 7 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Considering that the only way to make a Sith synth-crystal is through the dark side, isn't that rather redundant? --2Corin 517 20:50, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Lightsaber Physics On Earth
I have been doing research on laser-based lightsabers. Basically, it would be a class 4 or 5 laser beam enveloped in an electromagnetic field (to repel other laser lightsabers). But there are two things: a safety issue for eyes (it would need some sort of filter to make the beam safe to look at by blocking blinding radiation), and something to make the electromagnetic field ONLY repel other lightsabers.

Any thoughts or comments? Extrasolar4 19:35, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Ancient Jedi Pic
There is this picture under the Hilt Variants subtopic that says it is a picture an ancient Jedi and his lightsaber. I'm 99% sure this is wrong, because pictures showing ancient Jedi and their lightsabers in the comic books show a regular looking lightsaber, rather than one that has a battery pack strapped to the user. Additionally, the same picture shows up in the Behind the Scenes subtopic as the very early concept art for the lightsaber. This needs clarification. CM-56327  ( HUD Comlink ) 19:22, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually the key word in that caption is 'archaic' (which means really, really old). The text in the article accompanying the pic talks about the earliest sabers, called 'proto-sabers', which were essentially crystals mounted on hilts with cables linking to power packs either on the wearer's belt or back. These proto-sabers first appeared in the Tales of the Jedi mini-series as a way to establish the stories as taking place in the distant past. Notable jedi like Odan-Urr were wielders of this style, and a pic of him with one is also in this article. The Bts pic is also, I believe from the early TotJ mini.Tocneppil 09:13, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, that makes sense, but what about when that picture shows up again as a concept art drawing? I know it's wrong (because the licensing of the image says its from a comic book), so do you think I should delete it? I don't want to delete it and find out I shouldn't have. CM-56327  [[Image:JaingHead.svg|20px]] ( HUD Comlink ) 17:45, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I'd leave it where it is. I believe the drawing was a bonus page in the TotJ collection of comics.Tocneppil 20:26, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Edits I just reverted
For some unexplained reason, user:Darth Benny recently reverted the entire article to an old version from October 2007. He gave no explanation for why he reverted the entire article to such an old version, and he essetially deleted all the work that has gone into the article since october. So I have gone ahead and reverted his edits and returned the article to its most recent version. I'm not sure why he did it, but I think it has somthing to do with this forum post, where someone provided a link to the same version of the article that Darth Benny reverted everything to. 72.79.223.108 22:39, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Lightsaber Lifecycle...
I was curious if there were any articles that showed the timeline of specific lightsabers...

For example... Anakin's passed onto Luke Qui-Gon's passed onto Obi-Wan...

Etc etc...

A page or article on when specific lightsabers were first seen, and when they were lost or met their destruction would be interesting.

Triggersaber
For the longest time, there was a section on Wikipedia about a Triggersaber; a modified shoto thast turned on/off real fast as to bypass another lightsaber duelist's defenses. Is there anymore info on this particular type of Lightsaber? Muldoon X9 20:14, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that was fanon.Bao-Dur&#39;s clone 19:24, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Are you aware of the technique known as Trakata?Tocneppil 20:10, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * While I can't speak for the triggersaber (something I've not heard of, yet seems preposturous due to the time and energy it activate and deactivate such a saber), Trakata has, and is used with normal sabers and is simply technique. --2Corin 517 20:53, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Changing the Length/Width of the Lightsaber Blade
"By adding up to three focusing crystals of varying attributes, the blade's length and power output could be adjusted using control mechanisms built into the hilt's shaft. [source?]"

In Splinter of the Mind's Eye (page 30, lines 17-18 and 30-32) Luke uses "controls" set in the hilt of the saber. This should be used as the needed citation.
 * I think it has more to do with the addition of the focusing crystals than the length/power output part, though that [source?] could be split up. 03:30, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

jedi with red blades
i saw a picture with leia holding a red lightsaber and the twilek in dark tide 2 i forgot her name held a "scarlet" blade. i know new jedi order jedi were allowed to use red blades but im not sure about old republic jedi. please post your toughts on my talk page and here if you wishMrhappy100 22:22, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

More Aquatic sabers needed
I've noticed that there seems to be a mistake in what sabers are cited. In The Cestus Deception Obi-Wan and Asajj Ventress fall into water with there lightsaber activated and I believe Obi-Wan cuts Asajj with his lightsaber while underwater while she is unable to defend. If this is true, then all three (maybe two I don't remember if Asajj had a lightsaber destroyed or not) have some aquatic ability. --2Corin 517 20:58, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Black
Is the black lightsaber that Galen Marek can wield in The Force Unleashed canon or just an in game extra? And does it need mentioning in the article either way? Torchwood5 20:57, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It's just an extra, but I don't think it needs a specific mention, though I could be wrong. // ~mikah~  21:41, 28 September 2008 (UTC)