Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Spiker


 * ''The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a featured article nomination that was successful. Please do not modify it.

Spiker

 * Nominated by: -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 21:32, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: That is all.

(5 Inqs/0 Users/5 Total)
Support
 * 1) Thefourdotelipsis 10:40, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 2)  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 17:55, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) I'm glad that no one has tried to object to that thing which I won't mention :)  Greyman ( Talk ) 01:10, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 16:24, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Toprawa and Ralltiir 14:27, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * "though they managed to survive by the skin of their teeth." - Is a bit informal. "Spiker knew that the crate alongside the Twi'lek was likely filled with spice, so rather than killing him, suggesting that Gizz allow Whizzer and extension on his debt in exchange for some of the drug, in an effort to goad Gizz into defying Jabba's orders." - Something's missing there. The BTS could maybe do with a little bit more expansion, namely some of the authors who dealt with him, the fact that he's a playable character in Missions, and the fact that his face (at least I think that's his face) differed greatly in the comics from what was shown in the SOTE sourcebook and the Missions card. In fact, the Missions card shows him as having pale skin, not blue. Thefourdotelipsis 08:43, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Should all be addressed. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 10:11, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * 2) * "One of Spiker's fellow swoop riders was captured by 12-4C-41, though managed to send a message to Jabba's Palace of the incoming barge which the droids were using to travel to the desert citadel." Who sent the message?
 * 3) *Other than that, looks clean. Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) **Sorted. Thanks. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 17:52, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Toprawa:
 * 6) * I'm not sure what this is saying exactly. What is so significant about "with Big Gizz"? Did they team up together to find jobs? Did they work together for Jabba? A little rewording/clarification, please: "and swoop gang member with Big Gizz"
 * 7) **Reworded.
 * 8) * This sentence is confusing and doesn't read well. Jix is attacking Gizz and then talking to Spiker? Who was killed in the collision? A clean rewrite, please: "Jix attacked Gizz, telling Spiker he had been killed in a collision, before leaving Spiker to die after his swoop bike exploded."
 * 9) **Reworded.
 * 10) * So, Jabba hired another biker to ensure that Gizz was following Jabba's orders? No need for this third person wording here, if indeed this is what is being said: "though he was not entirely trustful of Gizz and sought to infiltrate another, more loyal biker into the gang to ensure that Gizz was following Jabba's wishes."
 * 11) **I think I've fixed it, but I'm not sure exactly what you're saying here.
 * 12) * If we can't say exactly how many were here, don't give a rough estimate, think of a better descriptor: "Spiker, Gizz, and the other dozen or so bikers"
 * 13) **Vaguifed.
 * 14) * Mos Eisley's description of being Tatooine's capital should accompany its first mention in the article, not the second: "traveled to Tatooine's capital, Mos Eisley,"
 * 15) **Done.
 * 16) * This is introduced as "the" crate as if we know what this is. Needs some kind of context, or otherwise should be reworded: "Spiker knew that the crate alongside the Twi'lek was likely filled with spice"
 * 17) **Changed, though I don't see the problem and think it read better the other way.
 * 18) ***I worked it closer to what you had before. Toprawa and Ralltiir 14:27, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 19) * The description that Jix survived implies that he was shot at too, but this only reads that Spiker was shot at. Please clarify: "fired at him, shooting him in the stomach and destroying his swoop, leaving Spiker unconscious and badly wounded. Jix survived,"
 * 20) **Reworded.
 * 21) * These two "ship's" aren't reading well like this. Please reword: "their surrender to Gorga's ship. The other ship"
 * 22) **Reworded.
 * 23) * This does not read well. Please reword: "fought against Rebel forces survived on board a Rebel ship that"
 * 24) **Reworded.
 * 25) * Please avoid the cliche: "their plan worked a treat"
 * 26) **Altered.
 * 27) * You said previously the IG droid was destroyed, but now it's helping to fire at the dark trooper? Unless I've missed something, please clarify: "Gizz and the IG-97 droid began firing at the dark trooper"
 * 28) **Clarified.
 * 29) * I'm not sure where this is coming from, but not only is it unsourced, please avoid the "unknown" and "unknown fate" wording. Please remedy the appropriate intro wording accompanying this as well: "Spiker's whereabouts after these events were unknown, and he was believed to have disappeared soon after them.
 * 30) **This comes straight from the Gamer article. It had been sourced by someone moved around the paragraph. Now fixed.
 * 31) * If the SOTE novel is his first mention, this should be separated from the comic in the appearances list to identify it as such, and let the comic be his first appearance. Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:47, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 32) **Done.
 * 33) * The P&T could probably benefit from some sort of mention of his "trademark" mask and armor, as the accompanying image describes
 * 34) **Added a mention.
 * 35) * Finally, I almost didn't include this one, but after giving it some more thought, I feel it's necessary. If this is your reasoning behind definitively identifying him as Chiss throughout the article, I would probably say it would be safer to avoid doing so. This isn't exactly a for sure: "reported that evidence strongly suggested that Spiker was almost certainly a Chiss." Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:56, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 36) **Well the actual quote from Tem Ellis is pretty definitive: "There is another known Chiss living in the Outer Rim, though he does not know his own heritage." I think the last sentence in the body should just be reworded to match the source. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 12:48, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 37) ***Done that (Culator's suggestion). -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 13:17, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * I'd suggest that an unhelmeted image would be much better than the infobox, also, why aren't there any Tales templates for the Sand Blasted portion? Thefourdotelipsis 12:32, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * If anyone wants to tinker with the main image, please feel free; everything I've tried so far -- particularly the unmasked ones -- look off. About Sand Blasted; it's referenced in the Dark Forces Saga, and according to its article it is C-canon. So...I dunno. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 10:37, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That would mean that the referenced elements are C-canon. Not the comic itself. Thefourdotelipsis 14:17, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Image:Spiker.jpg seems like it would be a better infobox picture, if someone could re-scan it. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 13:49, 18 June 2008 (UTC)