Wookieepedia:EduCorps/Meeting 63/Log

[00:12:36]  OK the rest of this will be on-record. [00:13:01]  Moving onto old articles. [00:13:06]  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Battle_of_T%27olan [00:13:29]  https://starwars.fandom.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=8740960 [00:13:40]  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Battle_of_T%27olan [00:13:50]  Kill [00:13:52]  Kill [00:13:52]  kill [00:13:53]  Kill [00:14:01]  Kill [00:14:09]  Kill [00:14:13]  Notes say kill as well. [00:14:16]  I’m off too [00:14:23]  Fan has my vote from here [00:14:26]  Bye all [00:14:29]  Later [00:14:32] <CorellianPremier> Bye Tommy [00:14:32] <Ayrehead02> For the one probe? :P [00:14:35] <Ayrehead02> Cya [00:15:27] <CorellianPremier> Battle of T'olan will be killed. [00:15:57] <CorellianPremier> That was the only one under review. [00:16:02] <CorellianPremier> Moving onto new articles. [00:16:27] <CorellianPremier> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Melik_Galerha/Legends [00:16:40] <CorellianPremier> For the record, the new word count rule still allows CAs with intros. However, in this case, the article still needs to be probed as its article body (without BTS) consists of 142 words, less than the required minimum number of 165 words. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 01:33, January 19, 2020 (UTC)   Haha my bad, I meant to [00:16:41] <CorellianPremier> specify under 165 word body CA. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 04:29, January 19, 2020 (UTC)        Talked to Kasra who doesn't foresee himself editing the site anytime soon. Have fixed it myself and also elaborated on the 19 BBY citation. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 02:42, January 25, 2020 (UTC) [00:16:42] * spookly (spookly@unaffiliated/spookly) has joined [00:16:56] * AnilSerifoglu gives channel operator status to spookly [00:17:02] <Fan26> Welcome Spookly! [00:17:09] Hi :) [00:17:12] <Ayrehead02> Congratulations! [00:17:13] <AnilSerifoglu> Congrats spookly! [00:17:19] <MasterFred> Welcome to the EC, spookly. :D [00:17:27] <MasterFred> Congratulations. [00:17:27] <CorellianPremier> Welcome spookly. We're discussing https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Melik_Galerha/Legends [00:18:01] * Zed42 (7a3901da@wookieepedia/Zed42) has joined [00:18:07] Woah was not expecting this. Thanks bundles [00:18:14] * AnilSerifoglu gives channel operator status to Zed42 [00:18:20] <Ayrehead02> Welcome Zed! [00:18:25] <Fan26> Welcome to the EduCorps Zed1 [00:18:26] <MasterFred> We're voting whether to place it on probation based on the reasons provided here:https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EduCorps/Meeting_63#On_the_Celanon_Spur.2C_in_the_Tiala_sector [00:18:29] <CorellianPremier> Welcome Zed [00:18:33] <Zed42> Thanks! [00:18:35] <CorellianPremier> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Melik_Galerha/Legends [00:18:37] <Ayrehead02> You've both been doing good work on the review boards, it's well deserved [00:18:41] <AnilSerifoglu> Congrats to new ECs Zed and spookly! [00:18:58] <MasterFred> We generally give a slight heads up, but this was more last minute. [00:19:12] <MasterFred> So welcome and congratulations to both of you. [00:19:21] <MasterFred> Ok, we should move on with the meeting. :D [00:19:35] <MasterFred> I vote probe [00:19:38] <Ayrehead02> Probe [00:19:40] <Fan26> Probe [00:19:41] Probe [00:19:49] <CorellianPremier> Did Hanzo fix the word count issue? [00:19:49] <Zed42> probe [00:19:56] <AnilSerifoglu> We are probing it for what? [00:20:09] <CorellianPremier> Word count and citation [00:20:11] <Ayrehead02> CP did post it [00:20:22] <MasterFred> Oh wait [00:20:24] <AnilSerifoglu> They both are addressed [00:20:29] <MasterFred> I missed Hanzo's message [00:21:02] <MasterFred> 116 words without Bts [00:21:26] <AnilSerifoglu> Yeah, there is no problem with the word count now [00:22:04] <MasterFred> Everyone satisfied with the date ref? [00:22:13] <Ayrehead02> Looks good to me [00:22:18] <Ayrehead02> So spare [00:22:21] <AnilSerifoglu> Spare [00:22:27] <CorellianPremier> I vote spare. [00:22:28] <Fan26> Spare [00:22:32] Spare [00:22:32] <MasterFred> Sorry for starting a landslide in the wrong direction. XD [00:22:33] <MasterFred> spare [00:22:37] <Zed42> Spare, in that case [00:22:48] <CorellianPremier> Imps did vote probe, but that was before the fix. [00:22:53] <CorellianPremier> And he's outvoted anyway. [00:23:26] <CorellianPremier> Melik_Galerha/Legends is spared probation. [00:23:45] <MasterFred> We should've probed for that beard, though. [00:23:57] <AnilSerifoglu> Heh [00:24:03] <CorellianPremier> That was also the sole article. [00:24:07] <Ayrehead02> Ok, before we go any further I think we should check [00:24:16] <CorellianPremier> Nothing in the maintenance bin. [00:24:30] <Ayrehead02> Spookly and Zed, have you actually be told how a review board meeting works? [00:24:37] <Ayrehead02> And would you like a quick explanation? [00:24:58] <Zed42> I have somewhat of an idea, but an explanation would be good [00:25:00] I've read the logs, but if you could explain so I'm not missing anything that would be great [00:25:07] <Ayrehead02> Ok brilliant [00:25:14] <MasterFred> Impressed you've read the logs. [00:25:23] <Ayrehead02> Essentially a review board meeting has three phases [00:25:44] <Ayrehead02> Firstly we go through the articles that were probed in the last meeting [00:26:17] <Ayrehead02> The host will post each of these in turn, linking the article, the EC review, and the edit history since the last meeting [00:26:32] <Ayrehead02> These links are all available on the meeting page [00:26:45] <Ayrehead02> We then vote either kill or spare on each of these [00:27:03] <MasterFred> *keep [00:27:17] <Ayrehead02> Ah yes keep sorry, getting my terminology confused [00:27:23] <MasterFred> :P [00:27:53] <Ayrehead02> Also, while I'm explaining this, do all of the non-new members want to go find something to probe [00:27:59] <Ayrehead02> One article is really not enough [00:28:29] <Ayrehead02> Anyhow, moving on, the second phase is new articles that have been placed on the meeting page for review [00:29:02] <Ayrehead02> It is the job of the EC members to try and aim for there to be about ten CAs to review for each meeting [00:29:19] <Ayrehead02> (Clearly we've failed in this for a couple of meetings so it's something we could all pay more attention to) [00:29:25] <Tommy-Macaroni> Sorry to interrupt but congratulations both of you, very well deserved [00:30:10] <Ayrehead02> The host posts each of these in turn, with the objections made on the meeting page [00:30:21] <Ayrehead02> Anyone can add further objections in the meeting before the vote [00:30:40] <Ayrehead02> On new articles we vote probe or spare [00:31:22] <Ayrehead02> Once everything on the page has been dealt with the maintenance bin is checked, and anyone can also bring up articles they want reviewed that weren't added to the page [00:32:01] <Ayrehead02> Once new articles are dealt with we move onto any discussions items [00:32:33] <Ayrehead02> Although sometimes users can request to have a discussion item brought up at the very start of the meeting [00:32:54] <Ayrehead02> This is often the case for anything that needs to be off the record, like votes to add or remove users from the review board [00:33:36] <Ayrehead02> Once discussions are over the host needs to check and announce who has the duty of doing paperwork and scheduling the next meeting [00:34:03] <Ayrehead02> You'll be added to the end of the duties roster so you'll have a chance to see others users doing it a number of times before you have to do it yourself [00:34:19] <Ayrehead02> And I think that's everything [00:34:31] <MasterFred> I might have an article. [00:34:49] <Ayrehead02> Oh hang on, I forgot that you can also vote extend on old articles if changes have been made, but new objections are raised [00:35:06] <Ayrehead02> Before we discuss Fred's article, does that all make sense Zed and Spookly? [00:35:11] <Ayrehead02> I realise it was a bit of a text wall [00:35:26] <Zed42> Yeah, sounds good to me [00:35:35] It does; I also have an article to possibly probe this time [00:35:49] <Ayrehead02> Excellent, you can ofcourse ask questions at any time [00:36:14] <Ayrehead02> Fred, go ahead with your article [00:36:19] <MasterFred> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Milodon [00:36:24] <MasterFred> 265 words [00:36:57] <MasterFred> I was checking to see if we decided to probe CAs over 250 words as part of our recent word count overhaul. [00:37:58] <AnilSerifoglu> The article body (without intro and BTS) is 167 words long by my calculation [00:38:10] <AnilSerifoglu> Just over the 165-word rule :P [00:38:23] <Ayrehead02> So this needs to go to GAN [00:38:29] <AnilSerifoglu> Yes [00:38:34] <AnilSerifoglu> Probe [00:38:42] <MasterFred> Probe [00:38:45] <Ayrehead02> Probe [00:38:50] Probe [00:38:53] <CorellianPremier> Probe [00:38:54] <Fan26> probbe [00:38:57] <Fan26> *probe [00:39:04] <Zed42> probe [00:39:17] <CorellianPremier> Milodon to be probed [00:39:42] <Fan26> I also have a couple [00:39:49] <Ayrehead02> Spookly was next [00:40:11] <Fan26> Ah, I will wait then [00:40:18] <CorellianPremier> Go ahead whenever you're ready Spookly [00:40:24] Right, https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Craw%27s_protocol_droid - for body count at 148, and citations with page numbers [00:40:42] Would need the intro removed [00:41:02] <Ayrehead02> Probe [00:41:06] <AnilSerifoglu> Probe [00:41:13] <Fan26> Probe [00:41:15] <Zed42> probe [00:41:16] Probe [00:41:27] <MasterFred> Probe [00:41:45] <CorellianPremier> Probe [00:41:59] <CorellianPremier> Craw's Protocol Droid to be probed [00:42:15] <CorellianPremier> Do we probe if a BTS isn't sourced? [00:42:27] <Fan26> Yeah, I think so [00:42:28] <AnilSerifoglu> Yes [00:42:39] <Ayrehead02> Depends if it's a so fix it [00:42:47] <MasterFred> Ok, I need to dip. [00:42:53] <Ayrehead02> See ya Fred [00:43:03] <CorellianPremier> Have a good one. [00:43:05] <Fan26> later Fred [00:43:11] <MasterFred> Thanks. o/ [00:43:16] <CorellianPremier> Fan, what do you have? [00:43:43] <Fan26> First is this one [00:43:44] <Fan26> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Battle_of_the_Charros_system_(Mandalorian_Wars) [00:44:16] <Fan26> The BtS describes how it is depicted instead of the standard publishing date and whatnot for the source material [00:45:46] <Ayrehead02> Yeah that BTS definitely needs a rework [00:45:48] <Ayrehead02> Probe [00:45:56] <Fan26> Probe [00:46:05] <Zed42> Probe [00:46:07] Probe [00:46:12] <AnilSerifoglu> Probe [00:46:54] <CorellianPremier> Probe [00:47:12] <CorellianPremier> Battle of Charros to be probed [00:47:42] <Ayrehead02> Fan you had a second? [00:47:52] <Fan26> Yeah [00:47:54] <Fan26> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Celanon%E2%80%93Sprizen_Negotiation [00:48:10] <Fan26> The one ref note is broken, but that's a sofixit [00:48:33] <Fan26> My issue is that I highly doubt the TOR encyclopedia provides the logic for a BBY date on its own [00:48:56] <Ayrehead02> I'm fairly certain it can't [00:49:01] <Fan26> And the date for 3681 BBY is cited to there since it's the only note [00:49:11] <Ayrehead02> BTS needs referencing as well, although that's another sofixit [00:49:40] <Ayrehead02> Probe [00:49:44] <Fan26> Probe [00:49:46] Probe [00:49:46] <AnilSerifoglu> Probe [00:49:48] <Zed42> Probe [00:50:39] <CorellianPremier> Probe [00:51:12] <CorellianPremier> Celanon-Sprizen negotiation to be probed [00:51:26] <Ayrehead02> Anyone else got anything? [00:51:45] <CorellianPremier> I do have one - https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/MI-series_security_droid [00:51:52] <CorellianPremier> It is over 250 words in total. [00:52:26] <Ayrehead02> Huh this was one of mine, but must have dropped of my follow list somehow [00:52:30] <Ayrehead02> *off [00:52:36] <Ayrehead02> Looks like it's had an update [00:53:02] <Ayrehead02> Hmm Endless Vigil is a late 2016 FFG book [00:53:06] <Fan26> Wow, that looks way too long for a CA [00:53:18] <Ayrehead02> Yeah it definitely is [00:53:29] <Ayrehead02> Whatever's going on this is a definite Probe [00:53:31] <Ayrehead02> Probe [00:53:33] <CorellianPremier> Probe [00:53:38] Probe [00:53:39] <AnilSerifoglu> Probe [00:53:40] <Zed42> Probe [00:53:40] <Fan26> Probe [00:53:50] <CorellianPremier> MI-series droid to be probed. [00:54:03] <CorellianPremier> Any other article up? [00:54:40] <Ayrehead02> That's probably enough for now, but we should all try and add one or two articles for the next meeting [00:54:45] <CorellianPremier> Indeed [00:54:47] <Ayrehead02> Preferably before the meeting this time :P [00:55:03] <CorellianPremier> I'll state it again, nothing in the maintenance bin. [00:55:18] <CorellianPremier> For next meeting, Ayrehead02 is up. [00:55:26] <CorellianPremier> Any other discussion items? [00:55:35] <Ayrehead02> Nope, nothing for me [00:55:36] <Fan26> Nope from me [00:55:44] <AnilSerifoglu> No, I'm on paperwork, CP :P [00:55:49] * Tommy-Macaroni has quit [00:55:58] <CorellianPremier> Right, Anil is up. [00:56:43] <AnilSerifoglu> Zed, spookly, you guys have to honor to add your names here, BTW :P https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EduCorps [00:57:00] <CorellianPremier> Thank you all for attending, this wraps up Meeting # 63