User talk:Jedimca0/Jedi Order

Jediknight19bby's Message
Thanks so much, guys. I don't know what I would do without you. When I was knew to Wookieepedia and had no clue what a reference was, and my GA nom was falling apart, Ack came to the rescue, and you were close to follow. I appreciate Acky's work on sourcing and the locations, and then the Stark Hyperspace War. Jedimca0, you've done well with rewriting the copied history section. I've merely nominated, sourced, expanded, agreed to everything Greyman ever wanted to be done with the article, from the early days of the nomination for GA, and now, I feel this pride that I have a group of dedicated users helping clean this up for its second FA nom. I can't wait till Greyman gives it a thumbs up. I'm also busy in the anti-vandalism business and warning idiots who only do stuff to their user page, as well as voting for GAs, FAs, WOtMs, IDs, et cetra, but I'll be here if you need me. I rewrote the Clone Wars part to make it more accurate. Keep up the good work.  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 14:19, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Look, if you're not going to constructively contribute, then why did you sign your name? I'd like to remind you that editing article is more important than warning people about their userpages and voting, yet you act like it's the opposite. If you're not actually going to do any work, then I'm going to cross your name above. Because, when we eventually get the article up to standard, I expect that you'll be claiming credit, without having earned it. So, are you going to edit or not? [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 19:32, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Listen, you and Jedimca0 started this without telling me. As the nominator, I am responsible for being in charge of this kind of thing. Greyman wanted sources, you sourced. If you want to exclude me, than I'll make sure that I remove the Ephant Mon FA tag from your userpage. I have other projects, so why don't you and Jedimca0 try to take the project I'm going to complete soon of rewriting Luke Skywalker, and bringing it to FA eventually? I find nothing else to do with this article, and you're doing a great job. That fancy roster section, that long list of references, and the wild GA nom adventure wouldn't be there if it wasn't for me. You expanded the locations, sourced, and I appreciate it. So drop saying I haven't edited, you and Jedimca0 have it covered now. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 22:02, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * What are you talking about removing the Ephant Mon FA tag from my userpage? Are you seriously threating to vandalise my page? And what the hell has that got to do with any of this? Yeah, you were in charge of this thing, but we took over, seeing as though you weren't going anywhere with it. And I don't mind you finding nothing to do with the article, but if that is the case, why did you sign your name at the top? And "that fancy roster section" is going to be removed. I doubt you have much of a part to play in the sourcing department, seeing as though every time you add something, I have to clean up after you, because you didn't source it. And frankly I don't care about the "wild GA nom adventure". In fact, I'd prefer if it never happened, because now no-one wants to go near the article. I've no problem if you're busy re-writing Luke Skywalker, but if you are, then why did you sign your name on this? I don't want to exclude you, I simply don't want you to be listed as a part of the project when you clearly aren't. [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 22:21, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * AdmirableAckbar and I are working hard to improve the article, we are working hard to get it to GA and eventually even FA. But the only thing you’ve done since we’ve started this project is add you name to the “volunteers” section. If you are to busy to help us, then why did you volunteer in the first place? And threatening to vandalize AdmirableAckbar’s userpage will not work, we are not trying to exclude you, you’re excluding yourself by not being a part of this project. --Jedimca0(Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 22:34, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The work I've done on this has originated way back, almost to before AdmirableAckbar joined this wiki. The FA nom was to see what the community wanted done, the GA nom was when it started to work. Since I did put the work of creating a lot of this article, sourcing it, etc., I deserve credit for at least some of it, as Acky deserves all the credit for Ephant Mon. I'm saying that, if he doesn't want to acknowledge this project wouldn't be here if it wasn't for me and my work over the past 2 months, than he never did anything to Ephant Mon, in my point of view. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 16:47, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, I haven't the slightest what you're talking about in relation to Ephant Mon, or what it has to do with anything, so I'm going to disregard it, if you don't mind. I'm not saying you haven't done work (though you haven't done nearly as much as you think you have) that was never my point. What I'm saying is why did you sign up for this when you were busy doing other things? It's not a particularly logical thing to do. Would you apply for a job when you already had one? Of course not. It's the same thing. Whatever you have done to the article in the past is irrelevant, as we've probably already re-written or removed it. You can't just sign your name, do no work, then expect the 'rewards.' [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 17:02, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I've worked hard on this article, as you did with Mon. If you will not give me at least some credit for my hard work, then you're acting like you didn't edit Ephant Mon, and Greyman's never edited. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 17:07, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I did give you "some" credit for this article, but often some ain't enough. In case you hadn't noticed, this is quite a long article, which means you have to do more than "some" work if you want recognition. [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 17:10, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * This project would have happened sooner or later, and *this* page is not here specifically because you, Jediknight19bby, "expanded" the Jedi Order article. This page was created in response to a series of requests by AdmirableAckbar, when he asked me on IRC to look over the article. From reviewing his previous edit history, I decided that he was serious about what he was asking&mdash;so I looked it over, gave him some constructive criticism about what I thought, as an Inq, needed to be done. Therefore, in response to those suggestions, this project page was created so that AdmirableAckbar and Jedimca0 could have a common place to talk about changes to the article, and for a single place with which to review any comments or concerns concerning the article. This page was not created to establish any type of ownership over the Jedi Order article, instead it was created to improve the article, which has been done significantly since help was first requested. This entire discussion is pointless and does not have any relevancy on the continued improvement of the Jedi Order article. The simple thing is this: if you signed your name above as a participant, then be prepared to contribute quality edits to the article, and also be prepared to work within the guidelines of this project for however long it lasts. If you want something done that is not stated within those guidelines, then bring them up here first and discuss it. As with any project on Wookieepedia, users are completely free to remove their names as a participant for any reason.

This entire thing of "I own this article so all the glory goes to me and who I choose" is complete garbage. Greyman ( Paratus ) 19:46, 28 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I never said that, Greyman. If you're so busy clicking on articles and bringing them to FA status, respect the serious work AdmirableAckbar and Jedimca0 are doing. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 15:39, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * JK19bby, you post above does not make sense in the least. What does my writing FA's having anything to do with this project? I am going to say this once, and once only: Either you contribute to the project that AdmirableAckbar has created, or your name will be removed from the list, and the page protected. If I didn't respect the work they were doing, then I would not have helped them when they (not you) asked for it. Also, one more word of advice: Either shape up or ship out . Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:53, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Look, Greyman, I am contributing now. How is this project different from the one I started two months ago? If you're so busy doing absolutely nothing to bring articles to FA, then stay away from seriously hard-working users. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 15:57, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * This has been dealt with, review the reasons why you were given a cool down ban, Jediknight19bby. It is very self explanatory. I am also moving this entire conversation to the talk page, since this is irrelevant to the project. Cheers, Greyman ( Paratus ) 16:06, 29 July 2007 (UTC)