Wookieepedia:Inquisitorius/Log/2019 March 30

19:04:51<@Toprawa> We begin with probed articles from last meeting 19:04:57<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Darth_Bane 19:05:02<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Darth_Bane 19:05:09<@Toprawa> Anil stated that he pretty much rewrote the whole thing 19:05:16<@Toprawa> He agreed it should be Reduxed 19:05:20<@Toprawa> Which I support 19:05:26<@Supreme_Emperor> Agreed 19:05:33<+Tommy-Macaroni> Redux 19:05:39<@ecks> redux 19:05:42<@Toprawa> Darth Bane reduxed 19:05:48<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Zsinj 19:05:52<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Zsinj_(third_review) 19:06:03<@Toprawa> This thing is an ongoing massive overhaul, which I'm not looking forward to having to deal with 19:06:11<@Toprawa> I'm all for kicking the can down the road one more time and extending it 19:06:15<@Toprawa>  Let future Tope deal with it 19:06:21<@ecks> the intro paragraphs still need to be split up 19:06:32<@Supreme_Emperor>  I'm all for future problems 19:06:38<+Tommy-Macaroni> Sure 19:06:45<@ecks> April Tope is gonna hate you 19:06:47<@ecks> but I'm ok with it 19:06:51<@Toprawa> He should have thought about that in March :P 19:06:53<@Supreme_Emperor> APRIL FOOLS 19:06:59<@Toprawa> Please add any extra issues you may have to the review page, of course 19:07:16<@Toprawa> I vote Extend 19:07:20<+Tommy-Macaroni> Extend 19:07:23<@Supreme_Emperor> Extend 19:07:53<@Toprawa> Zsinj extended 19:08:00<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Hand_of_Judgment 19:08:05<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Hand_of_Judgment 19:08:11<@Toprawa> No change 19:08:24<@Supreme_Emperor> Kill 19:08:26<@Toprawa> Kill 19:08:32<@Supreme_Emperor> Pass our Hand of Judgement on it :P 19:08:33<+Tommy-Macaroni> kill 19:08:40<@ecks> kill 19:08:45<@Toprawa> Hand of Judgment killed 19:08:50<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Tarsus_Valorum 19:08:55<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Tarsus_Valorum 19:08:56<@Toprawa> No change 19:09:01<@Supreme_Emperor> Kill 19:09:04<+Tommy-Macaroni> kill 19:09:05<@Toprawa> Kill 19:09:08<@ecks> kill 19:09:10<@Toprawa> Tarsus Valorum killed 19:09:16<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Ganner_Rhysode 19:09:24<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Ganner_Rhysode 19:09:26<@Toprawa> No change 19:09:33<+Tommy-Macaroni> kill 19:09:38<@Toprawa> Kill 19:09:50<@Supreme_Emperor> Kill 19:09:53<@ecks> kill 19:09:54<@Toprawa> Ganner Rhysode killed 19:09:57<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Jor_Torlin 19:10:01<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Jor_Torlin 19:10:02<@Toprawa> No change 19:10:06<+Tommy-Macaroni> kill 19:10:06<@Supreme_Emperor> Kill 19:10:13<@Toprawa> Kill 19:10:19<@ecks> kill 19:10:20<@Toprawa> Jor Torlin killed 19:10:24<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Plooz 19:10:28<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Plooz 19:10:29<@Toprawa> No change 19:10:33<+Tommy-Macaroni> kill 19:10:34<@Supreme_Emperor> Kill 19:10:36<@Toprawa> Kill 19:10:44<@ecks> kill 19:10:46<@Toprawa> Plooz killed 19:10:49<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Aron_Peacebringer 19:10:52<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Aron_Peacebringer 19:10:54<@Toprawa> No change 19:11:05<+Tommy-Macaroni> kill 19:11:09<@Toprawa> Kill 19:11:17<@Supreme_Emperor> Kill 19:11:18<@ecks> kill 19:11:24<@Toprawa> Aron Peacebringer killed 19:11:26<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Lorn_Pavan 19:11:29<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Lorn_Pavan_(second_review) 19:11:31<@Toprawa> No change 19:11:36<@Supreme_Emperor> Kill 19:11:40<@Toprawa> Kill 19:11:43<+Tommy-Macaroni> kill 19:11:54<@ecks> kill 19:11:55<@Toprawa> Lorn Pavan killed 19:11:56<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Record_Time 19:12:00<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Record_Time_(third_review) 19:12:02<@Toprawa> No change 19:12:03<@Supreme_Emperor> Kill 19:12:05<+Tommy-Macaroni> kill 19:12:09<@Toprawa> Kill 19:12:20<@ecks> kill 19:12:23<@Toprawa> Record Time killed 19:12:25<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Oppo_Rancisis/Legends 19:12:27<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Oppo_Rancisis/Legends 19:12:30<@Toprawa> No change 19:12:32<@Supreme_Emperor> Kill 19:12:34<+Tommy-Macaroni> kill 19:12:36<@ecks> kill 19:12:38<@Toprawa> Kill 19:12:43<@Toprawa> Oppo Rancisis/Legends killed 19:12:49<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Kapp_Dendo 19:12:53<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Kapp_Dendo 19:12:54<@Toprawa> No change 19:12:58<+Tommy-Macaroni> kill 19:13:01<@Supreme_Emperor> Kill 19:13:01<@Toprawa> Kill 19:13:13<@ecks> kill 19:13:15<@Toprawa> Kapp Dendo killed 19:13:16<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Sneevel/Legends 19:13:24<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Sneevel/Legends 19:13:25<@Toprawa> No change 19:13:28<@Supreme_Emperor> Kill 19:13:28<+Tommy-Macaroni> kill 19:13:34<@Toprawa> Kill 19:13:45<@ecks> kill 19:13:47<@Toprawa> Sneevel/Legends killed 19:13:48<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Nil_Spaar 19:13:51<@Supreme_Emperor> Kill 19:13:52<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Nil_Spaar 19:13:54<@Toprawa> No change 19:13:57<+Tommy-Macaroni> kill 19:14:02<@Toprawa> Kill 19:14:05<@Toprawa> SE's enthusiasm is noted :P 19:14:07<@ecks> kill 19:14:11<@Supreme_Emperor> XD 19:14:14<@Toprawa>  Nil Spaar killed 19:14:15<@Supreme_Emperor> Preemptive killing 19:14:24<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Finis_Valorum 19:14:27<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Finis_Valorum 19:14:29<@Toprawa> Changes 19:14:37<@Toprawa> Not all fixed 19:15:02<@Supreme_Emperor> He notes that he cannot fix them all 19:15:07<+Tommy-Macaroni> "I won't be able to completely fix the article, as I don't have Smuggler's Guide" 19:15:10<+Tommy-Macaroni> Kill 19:15:13<@Toprawa> Kill 19:15:14<@Supreme_Emperor> ^^ 19:15:16<@Supreme_Emperor> Kill 19:15:17<@ecks> kill 19:15:25<@Supreme_Emperor> He's "Finis"ed 19:15:27<@Toprawa> Finis Valorum killed 19:15:30<@Toprawa> Thank you, SE :P 19:15:35<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Kith_Kark 19:15:38<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Kith_Kark 19:15:39<@Toprawa> No change 19:15:43<+Tommy-Macaroni> kill 19:15:49<@Supreme_Emperor> Kill the Karking thing 19:15:52<@Toprawa> Kill 19:16:12<@ecks> kill 19:16:13<@Toprawa> Kith Kark killed 19:16:16<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Squib 19:16:19<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Squib_(third_review) 19:16:20<@Toprawa> No change 19:16:23<+Tommy-Macaroni> kill 19:16:23<@Supreme_Emperor> Kill 19:16:25<@ecks> kill 19:16:28<@Toprawa> Kill 19:16:31<@Toprawa> Squib killed 19:16:34<@Toprawa> Moving on to new articles 19:16:41<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Dice_Ibegon/Legends 19:16:50<@Toprawa> Use  for applicable items throughout article 19:16:50<@Toprawa> Format SW.com DB entry name correctly 19:16:50<@Toprawa> Format Official Starships & Vehicles for specific entry 19:16:50<@Toprawa> Article needs to apply  to something 19:16:50<@Toprawa> Format non-canon Appearances in subsection 19:16:53<@Toprawa> The last sentence of the first BTS paragraph is useless and should just be removed 19:16:55<@Toprawa> I find the BTS poorly presented, organized, and worded overall. I would like to see this entire section rewritten and "modernized." 19:16:58<@Toprawa> The article body image captions are amusingly terrible 19:17:00<@Toprawa> None of the BBY/ABY dates appear to be referenced properly 19:17:02<@Toprawa> Infobox-exclusive information 19:17:03<@Toprawa> Some sort of image could certainly be used for the BTS. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:06, March 14, 2019 19:17:09<@Toprawa> Tommy, you may, of course, add new items to this list to be fixed for the probation 19:17:22<+Tommy-Macaroni> Sure 19:17:31<@ecks> I was gonna say kill 19:17:34<@ecks> but probe 19:17:35<@Supreme_Emperor> Those are indeed some terrible captions 19:17:37<@Supreme_Emperor> Probe 19:17:38<+Tommy-Macaroni> Probe 19:17:47<@Toprawa> Probe 19:17:54<@Toprawa> Dice Ibegon/Legends probed 19:18:07<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Bentilais_san_Sk%27ar 19:18:12<@Toprawa> Digitize all comic images 19:18:12<@Toprawa> Infobox-exclusive info 19:18:12<@Toprawa> Underlinking 19:18:12<@Toprawa> None of the ABY dates are referenced correctly 19:18:12<@Toprawa> Remove GrS date from infobox 19:18:13<@Toprawa> An image could be worked into the first subsection. Either a new one could be found to use there, or the P/T image could be moved there and another image could be used for the P/T. 19:18:15<@Toprawa> BTS unsourced 19:18:17<@Toprawa> Expand BTS details for things like publication date and authors 19:18:19<@Toprawa> Format SW.com Databank name correctly in template 19:18:23<@Toprawa> Ref 1 needs citation template 19:18:25<@Toprawa> The image captions are a little dull. Use them go give some summary context to their sections they're illustrating. "Sk'ar circa 3 ABY" is pretty useless, for example. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:10, March 15, 2019 (UTC) 19:18:49<@ecks> probe 19:18:51<+Tommy-Macaroni> probe 19:18:52<@Supreme_Emperor> Probe the things 19:18:55<@Toprawa> Probe 19:19:02<@Toprawa> Bentilais san Sk'ar 19:19:02<@Toprawa>   probed 19:19:09<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Drogen_Hosh 19:19:14<@Toprawa> Intro could use a paragraph break 19:19:14<@Toprawa> Body could be subsectioned, with additional quotes if available 19:19:14<@Toprawa> BTS unsourced 19:19:14<@Toprawa> Details about his military uniform belong in an Equipment section, along with any other weaponry or tech he might use, not the P/T. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:47, March 19, 2019 (UTC) 19:19:28<@Supreme_Emperor> Probe 19:19:30<@ecks> probe 19:19:32<@Toprawa> Probe 19:19:32<+Tommy-Macaroni> probe 19:19:35<@Toprawa> Drogen Hosh probed 19:19:39<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/N-K_Necrosis 19:19:49<@Toprawa> I'm pretty sure 0 BBY and 1.5 ABY can't be sourced straight to that Galaxies expansion 19:19:49<@Toprawa> Unsourced item in infobox 19:19:49<@Toprawa> Infobox-exclusive information 19:19:49<@Toprawa> Images should be placed better throughout the article body; i.e., below subsection titles and not running into the RPG template 19:19:49<@Toprawa> Is "Death" really an appropriate subsection title, considering this is a droid? 19:19:53<@Toprawa> "Death" section could use a paragraph break 19:19:55<@Toprawa> Are there really no other quotes to be used for the article body? 19:19:57<@Toprawa> BTS unsourced 19:19:59<@Toprawa> BTS needs to format article titles correctly 19:20:01<@Toprawa> Multiple instances of ref notes incorrectly numerically ordered; i.e., [2][1] 19:20:03<@Toprawa> This sentence (and another infobox item) is sourced to NEGTD, which this character is not mentioned in: "Necrosis's droid body, made of duranium alloy, had the appearance of a Krath war droid. While the entire body was cybernetic, a notable feature was the inclusion of LX-44 legs." Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:15, March 20, 2019 (UTC) 19:20:34<@ecks> probe 19:20:40<@Supreme_Emperor> Probe 19:20:41<+Tommy-Macaroni> probe 19:20:41<@Toprawa> Probe 19:20:45<@Toprawa> N-K Necrosis probed 19:20:49<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Murk_Lundi 19:20:55<@Toprawa> Pretty sure none of the BBY dates can be sourced to that Jedi Apprentice book 19:20:55<@Toprawa> Infobox-exclusive information 19:20:55<@Toprawa> Is it really appropriate to list the Believers in the infobox's affiliation field? They're apparently so unimportant to this character that the infobox doesn't even mention them, and the article body just says Lundi came in contact with them 19:20:55<@Toprawa> Redlink 19:20:56<@Toprawa> BTS unsourced 19:20:58<@Toprawa> Would like to see expanded detail in the BTS, including authors and publication years where relevant 19:21:01<@Toprawa> Ref 4 needs to use CSWECite. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:27, March 20, 2019 (UTC) 19:21:18<@ecks> probe 19:21:20<@Supreme_Emperor> Probe 19:21:24<+Tommy-Macaroni> probe 19:21:32<@Toprawa> For the Believers objection, I meant to say "intro doesn't even mention them" 19:21:39<@Toprawa> Probe 19:21:42<@Toprawa> Murk Lundi probed 19:21:46<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Nahdar_Vebb/Legends 19:21:52<@Toprawa> I'm pretty sure none of the 22 BBY dates in the article are referenced correctly. I know for sure that it can't be sourced straight to Essential Reader's Companion, and I seriously doubt it works with Clone Wars Visual Guide 19:21:52<@Toprawa> Infobox-exclusive information 19:21:52<@Toprawa> An Equipmention section would be appropriate to detail his lightsaber, Jedi robes, and any other weaponry or tech he might use 19:21:53<@Toprawa> With the switch to Oasis, I think we could definitely fit a few more images in there, namely in the "Tracking Gunray" section and possibly even the "Hunted" section with the inclusion of a paragraph break. Almost certainly another image could be found for the BTS, though I'd prefer to see that LEGO image and the mention of all non-canon LEGO mentions in the first BTS section moved into the following section, where 19:21:58<@Toprawa> this stuff is discussed. 19:22:00<@Toprawa> Redlinks and redirects 19:22:02<@Toprawa> BTS unsourced 19:22:04<@Toprawa> Would like to see BTS expanded to give TCW air date. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:40, March 20, 2019 (UTC) 19:22:08<@Supreme_Emperor> Probe 19:22:14<@Toprawa> Probe 19:22:15<+Tommy-Macaroni> probe 19:22:20<@ecks> probe 19:22:23<@Toprawa> Nahdar Vebb/Legends probed 19:22:25<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Cody_Sunn-Childe 19:22:32<@Toprawa> All comic images should be digitized 19:22:33<@Toprawa> Comic image thumbnail sizes are much too small for Oasis formatting 19:22:33<@Toprawa> With Oasis, there's certainly enough room for a few more body images. Perhaps even one more for each subsection. 19:22:34<@Toprawa> Infobox-exclusive information 19:22:36<@Toprawa> None of the ABY dates are referenced properly 19:22:38<@Toprawa> Just remove GrS date from infobox, per policy 19:22:40<@Toprawa> As this is an original Monobook-era article, several paragraphs in the article are now rather big and could use a paragraph break 19:22:43<@Toprawa> BTS is not completely sourced. Also, revise any instances of improperly ordered ref notes; i.e., [7][6] 19:22:46<@Toprawa> Redirect(s) 19:22:48<@Toprawa> Fix StarWars.com Databank name format 19:22:52<@Toprawa> Ref 6 needs to use Citeweb with archive link. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:45, March 21, 2019 (UTC) 19:23:03<@Supreme_Emperor> Probe 19:23:03<+Tommy-Macaroni> probe 19:23:05<@Toprawa> Probe 19:23:16<@ecks> probe 19:23:18<@Toprawa> Cody Sunn-Childe probed 19:23:19<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Burra 19:23:25<@Toprawa> I question whether Outcast can be used as a proper reference for either of the BBY/ABY dates 19:23:27<@Toprawa> Both paragraphs in the second Bio subsection could use paragraph breaks, as probably could the P/T paragraph. 19:23:30<@Toprawa> BTS is unsourced and doesn't need to mention the full publication date for the novel. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:49, March 21, 2019 (UTC) 19:23:45<+Tommy-Macaroni> probe 19:23:47<@Toprawa> Probe 19:23:49<@Supreme_Emperor> Probe 19:23:53<@ecks> probe 19:23:54<@Toprawa> Burra probed 19:23:57<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Saadoon-Kauldi 19:24:02<@Toprawa> First intro paragraph could use a paragraph break 19:24:03<@Toprawa> None of the BBY/ABY dates are referenced properly 19:24:03<@Toprawa> A bit of underlinking 19:24:03<@Toprawa> Redlink 19:24:03<@Toprawa> The lone body image thumbnail could be enlarged with Oasis 19:24:03<@Toprawa> BTS is unsourced and should be expanded to mention publication date, author, illustrator, and relationship to Star Wars: The Roleplaying Game. Short story should also be formatted correctly. 19:24:06<@Toprawa> I have no idea what is going on with the referencing. I have never in all my time on Wookieepedia seen an article use citations in this manner, nor do I know what they're even supposed to mean. "page 61+"? What is that? Just reference the article normally like every other article on Wookieepedia. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:56, March 21, 2019 (UTC) 19:24:12<+Tommy-Macaroni> probe 19:24:17<@Toprawa> Probe 19:24:19<@Supreme_Emperor> Probe 19:24:36<@ecks> probe 19:24:37<@Toprawa> Saadoon-Kauldi probed 19:24:41<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Unidentified_Imperial_scout 19:24:47<@Toprawa> Digitize all the comic images 19:24:47<@Toprawa> No ABY dates? I'm pretty sure we can pin down this Marvel comic to 4 ABY. 19:24:47<@Toprawa> Infobox-exlusive information. 19:24:47<@Toprawa> We've discontinued the practice of beginning unidentified article intros with "This [subject]" 19:24:47<@Toprawa> BTS is unsourced and should expand to include publication date for comic issue. 19:24:49<@Toprawa> The article is 1038 words, by my count. And the intro looks unnecessarily enormous in relation to the rest of the article body. By comparison, the intro is 321 words, while the Biography is 517. That's not a good ratio. I'd estimate the intro could be cut by about half, in which case I can't see how this article could remain above 1000 words. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:06, March 21, 2019 (UTC) 19:25:01<+Tommy-Macaroni> probe 19:25:08<@Toprawa> Probe 19:25:10<@Supreme_Emperor> Probe 19:25:14<@ecks> probe 19:25:17<@Toprawa> Unidentified Imperial scout probed 19:25:18<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Battle_of_Bothawui/Legends 19:25:24<@Toprawa> Infobox-exclusive information. Specifically, the OOM command battle droid who assumes command of the Separatist fleet after Grievous bails is never mentioned in the article body. This is a fairly significant detail in regards to this battle. Also, if anyone actually is going to take care of this, there's only one OOM command battle droid in this battle (this dude), not "at least 1," as a certain editor has recently 19:25:29<@Toprawa> been trying to stick into this article. 19:25:31<@Toprawa> I'd like to see the BTS mention the air date for the episode. The second BTS paragraph is also unsourced. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:13, March 22, 2019 (UTC) 19:25:34<+Tommy-Macaroni> probe 19:25:37<@ecks> probe 19:25:38<@Toprawa> Probe 19:25:46<@Supreme_Emperor> Probe 19:25:50<@Toprawa> Battle of Bothawui/Legends probed 19:25:57<@Toprawa> That's the end of the agenda list 19:26:04<@Toprawa> Does anyone want to propose any other articles for consideration? 19:26:04<@Supreme_Emperor> Woot 19:26:24<@Toprawa> If not, we'll get into the discussion items 19:26:34<@ecks> the probe button on my keyboard is all worn out 19:26:41<@Supreme_Emperor> Nothing on my end for new articles 19:26:41<+Tommy-Macaroni> I'm fine going onto discussions 19:26:45<@Toprawa> Ok, then 19:26:49<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Template:FormerFA 19:26:52<@Toprawa> This template has some issues 19:27:24<@Toprawa> Note the "this article's entry" link 19:27:26<@Toprawa> That link: 19:27:32<@Toprawa> 1) Doesn't work with /Legends articles 19:27:40<@Toprawa>  2) Doesn't work with secondary reviews, like (third review) 19:27:56<@Toprawa> I figure there are two solutions here 19:28:10<@Toprawa> One, we can either send someone into fix the template coding, if possible 19:28:27<@Toprawa> Two, we remove that link and just rely on the same identical link found in the article milestones template 19:28:41<@Toprawa> Option 2 is the easier solution, obviously 19:28:46<@Supreme_Emperor> I'm useless with coding im 19:28:48<@Supreme_Emperor>  imo 19:29:06<@Toprawa> I should note this affects a fair number of articles 19:29:13<@ecks> I wonder why it doesn't work, it defaults to unless you supply a parameter and that strips /Legends 19:29:24<@ecks> do you happen to have an example of a Legends page where it doesn't work properly? 19:29:29<@Toprawa> Let me see 19:29:35<@Toprawa> Not offhand, sorry 19:29:51<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Dooku/Legends 19:30:01<@Toprawa> You'll notice it links to https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Dooku 19:30:16<@Toprawa> Which still applies to this particular page (since it was an earlier probe) 19:30:24<@Toprawa> But that wouldn't work for more recent articles/probes 19:30:31<@Supreme_Emperor> So it's defaulting to the earliest one 19:30:35<@Toprawa> Right 19:30:46<@Toprawa> So it has to be manually updated every time, which I don't even think is possible with the current coding 19:30:50<@ecks> if we probed Dooku now, would the Inq page be at Wookieepedia:Inq/Dooku/Legends ? 19:30:54<@Toprawa> Yes 19:31:08<@ecks> OK, I /think/ that should be doable with coding 19:31:19<@ecks> the (second review) thing obviously doesn't work but that's how it's always been 19:31:25<@ecks> you can just manually supply a page name there 19:31:29<@Toprawa> Do we want to do that, though? 19:31:33<@ecks> 19:31:35<@Toprawa> That's a manual fix of quite a lot of pages 19:31:57<@Toprawa> As noted, the easier solution is just to remove that link and rely on the article milestones template 19:32:09<@Supreme_Emperor> If we go that route, theoretically we could just add it to the to do list when archiving 19:32:10<@ecks> This isn't a recent change in behavior, so I don't think the (second review) issue is as big 19:32:15<@Supreme_Emperor> But that is indeed a lot of fixe 19:32:17<@ecks> but the milestones work just as well I guess 19:32:18<@Supreme_Emperor> fixes 19:32:36<@Toprawa> I don't have a problem with fixing the template to work, but I don't want to have to do the work to update everything 19:32:45<+Tommy-Macaroni> I'm fine with using the milestones 19:32:52<+Tommy-Macaroni> Too much work 19:33:03<@ecks> I don't think you would need to update any old ones 19:33:06<@Supreme_Emperor> It isn't like it's a necessary thing anyways 19:33:16<@ecks> just make sure to do now 19:33:23<@ecks> but I'm fine either way, as I said 19:33:42<@Toprawa> That's for all future cases, though 19:33:49<@Toprawa> It wouldn't automatically apply to preexisting ones, would it? 19:34:01<@Toprawa> You'd still have to manually update every use of the template 19:34:05<@Toprawa> Where applicable 19:34:09<@ecks> the /Legends fix would apply to all pre-existing ones 19:34:19<@ecks> the (second review) thing has always been there 19:34:23<@Toprawa> But not secondary reviews, correct? 19:34:34<@Toprawa> The template works with secondary reviews? 19:34:39<@Toprawa> I was under the impression it didn't 19:34:54<@ecks> if you do  it does 19:34:57<@ecks> always has, I think 19:35:10<@Toprawa> I'm going to test it on Dooku right now, since this is a perfect example 19:35:48<@Toprawa> It does work 19:36:04<@Toprawa> So to be clear, any article we've probed more than once would need this manual fix 19:36:14<@Toprawa> Which isn't an insignificant number 19:36:20<@ecks> yes, but this "fix" should already be in place 19:36:24<@Toprawa> Right 19:36:25<@ecks> this feature has existed forever 19:36:28<@Toprawa> It's manually updating the template, I mean 19:36:33<@Toprawa> On each case 19:36:40<@Supreme_Emperor> Still a metric fuckton of fixes 19:36:48<@Toprawa> So through our own ineptitude, we have a problem 19:36:50<@ecks> actually I might be able to automate that as well 19:36:58<@Supreme_Emperor> You have my attention 19:36:59* @ecks dives into the world of parser functions 19:37:34<@ecks> I'll have to get back on that though 19:37:48<+Tommy-Macaroni> If it's possible we may as well 19:37:56<+Tommy-Macaroni> Unless it's unrealistically difficult 19:38:11<@Supreme_Emperor> I'd say let ecks look into it and get back to it at a later date 19:38:18<@ecks> if I can't get it to work, I'm fine with nuking the link altogether 19:38:24<+Tommy-Macaroni> Yeah same 19:38:26<@Toprawa> The easier solution is just to remove the link in the template and change the wording to "Please see this article's most recent entry..." 19:38:58<@ecks> I'm inclined to vote on my own option just because I like technical tweaking 19:39:16<@Toprawa> Ok, I say we give ecks a chance to fix it. If it can't be done, we remove the link and reword as suggested. 19:39:24<@ecks> \o/ 19:39:23<@Supreme_Emperor> ^^ 19:39:25<+Tommy-Macaroni> Agreed 19:39:26<@Toprawa> Done 19:39:29<@Toprawa> Moving on 19:39:32<@Supreme_Emperor>  "ecks"tended 19:39:32<@Toprawa> Other template issues 19:39:40<+Tommy-Macaroni> lol 19:39:40<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Template:FAredux 19:40:06-!- exiledjedi (~exiledjed@wookieepedia/administrator/Exiledjedi) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius (acc: Exiledjedi) 19:40:06* ChanServ sets modes [#wookieepedia-inquisitorius +o exiledjedi] 19:40:13<@Supreme_Emperor> Hey EJ 19:40:18<+Tommy-Macaroni>  Yo EJ 19:40:20<@exiledjedi>  Hey SE. 19:40:24<@exiledjedi> I was delayed, my apologies. 19:40:31<@Toprawa> hi EJ 19:40:37<@exiledjedi>  Hey guys 19:40:39<@Toprawa> We're on the last discussion item about https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Template:FAredux 19:40:41<+Tommy-Macaroni> We're on the last discussion item now 19:40:58<@Toprawa> Please compare FAredux to this template https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Template%3AGAredux 19:41:26<@Toprawa> I'm considering whether it's worth having these two templates match 19:41:47<@Toprawa> All of our "themed" templates like this were created 10+ years ago based on Legends subjects that were mainstream and familiar to people 19:41:57<@Toprawa> I can't even tell you what the FAredux template quote is about 19:42:07<@Toprawa> I know what the image is about, but the quote eludes me and seems meaningless 19:42:13<@Supreme_Emperor> I'm all for modernizing 19:42:14<@Toprawa> Whereas the GAredux template is unmistakable in its message 19:42:22<@Supreme_Emperor> Pretty sure the FA one isn't even a legit quote 19:42:39<+Tommy-Macaroni> Yup I like the sound of a new one 19:42:44<+Tommy-Macaroni> Any ideas? 19:42:52<@exiledjedi> Yeah, I've always wondered what the old one was. 19:42:57<@Toprawa> I mean to say we make the FAredux template match the GAredux 19:43:06<@Toprawa> Just have it say Inq instead of AC 19:43:11<+Tommy-Macaroni>  With the Bobo theme you mean? 19:43:13<@Toprawa> Yes 19:43:14<+Tommy-Macaroni> *boba 19:43:24<+Tommy-Macaroni> Hmm, I like them all being different tbh 19:43:36<@Supreme_Emperor> I'd propose something with Thrawn personally 19:43:38<+Tommy-Macaroni> Then you instantly know which body it's under 19:43:39<@Supreme_Emperor> What I don't know 19:43:56<@Toprawa> I was rather in favor of uniformity, and I don't have any alternative theming suggestions 19:44:09<@Toprawa> I thought the quote would be clear enough 19:44:16<@Toprawa> "The Inquisitorius found this article somewhat indigestible." 19:44:38<+Tommy-Macaroni> Hmm, if we have these two the same, I think I'd want all of the templates of the 3 bodies to be the same 19:44:44<+Tommy-Macaroni> Like the redux ones 19:44:51<+Tommy-Macaroni> Ahem, *Redux 19:45:00<@Toprawa> Well, if we did an Inq-unique one, I suppose we could theme it to the Grand Inquisitor from Rebels 19:45:13<+Tommy-Macaroni> Okay that's fun 19:45:17<@Toprawa> The first thing that comes to mind is his quote about "There are some things far worse than death." or whatever it was 19:45:34<+Tommy-Macaroni> One second 19:45:43<@Toprawa> And certainly probation is worse than death, no? :P 19:46:01<+Tommy-Macaroni> Okay I really like that actually 19:46:11<@ecks> completely unrelated, I got the automated /Legends thing working, at least: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Axe_(clone_trooper)/Legends 19:46:18<@Toprawa> Cool 19:46:27<+Tommy-Macaroni> Nice 19:46:48<@Supreme_Emperor> Sweet 19:47:15<@Toprawa> Thoughts on the GAredux template redesign? 19:47:16<+Tommy-Macaroni> "Do you really think you can save the article? For its sake, surrender!" ? 19:47:19<@Toprawa> FAredux* 19:47:30<+Tommy-Macaroni> I would like a new design, and I like the rebels ones 19:47:38<@Toprawa> I like the "death" quote, to be honest 19:47:41<@Supreme_Emperor> Gives it a nice modern feel 19:47:48<+Tommy-Macaroni> Yeah I think that is better 19:47:48<@Supreme_Emperor> Something recognizable 19:47:50<@Toprawa> Or we could change it to fit our needs 19:47:55<@Toprawa> "There are some things far worse than probation." 19:48:03<+Tommy-Macaroni> Heh 19:48:06<+Tommy-Macaroni> Yes I like it 19:48:13<@exiledjedi>  Yeah, that works for me. 19:48:19<@Supreme_Emperor> I like it 19:48:40<@Toprawa>  I support as well 19:48:48<@ecks> sounds good 19:48:49<+Tommy-Macaroni> Support 19:48:52<@Supreme_Emperor> Support 19:49:01<@exiledjedi> Support 19:49:03<@Toprawa> Support 19:49:26<@Toprawa> Motion passes to redesign Template:FAredux 19:49:35<@Toprawa> Ok, there was actually one more thing I wanted to look at... 19:49:56<@Supreme_Emperor> Fire away 19:50:18<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Featured_article_nominations/Zygerrian/Legends_(Redux_review) 19:50:28<@Toprawa> Please see the Redux review template here 19:50:32<@Toprawa> Just using Zygerrian as an example 19:50:45<@Toprawa> Specifically the "Changes since last review: diff" field 19:50:57<@Toprawa> I know this is really minor, but do we really care about this? 19:51:04<@Toprawa> I don't ever use it, personally 19:51:27<@Supreme_Emperor> It's somewhat useless tbh 19:51:30<+Tommy-Macaroni> No I just review the article from scratch 19:51:32<@exiledjedi> Yeah, I don't use it either. 19:51:36<@Supreme_Emperor> We can just pull the history if we need to 19:51:38<@Toprawa>  per Tommy 19:51:40<@Toprawa> and SE 19:51:42<@ecks> it's useful... in theory 19:51:47<@ecks> can't say I've ever used it 19:52:01<@Toprawa> I'm very ok with removing it 19:52:08<@Supreme_Emperor>  Kill 19:52:08<+Tommy-Macaroni> Support 19:52:24<@Toprawa> Support 19:52:25<@exiledjedi> Support 19:52:26<@ecks> support 19:52:27<@Supreme_Emperor> Support 19:52:38<@Toprawa> Motion passes to remove Changes since last review: diff field from that template 19:53:01<+Tommy-Macaroni> Awesome 19:53:02<@Toprawa> Ok, are there any other clown questions? 19:53:12<+Tommy-Macaroni> Not from me 19:53:16<@Supreme_Emperor>  I propose sleep 19:53:25<+Tommy-Macaroni> If we're done I'll just grab my dinner 19:53:25<@Supreme_Emperor> So I can kill this sickness 19:53:27<@Toprawa> Let us examine the meeting duties, then 19:53:31<+Tommy-Macaroni> I'll be back in half an hour 19:53:35<@ecks> pleae not me 19:53:41<@ecks> please* 19:53:42<@Toprawa> For Meeting 101... 19:53:48<@Toprawa> SE is still on penalty paperwork :P 19:53:53<@ecks> \o/ 19:53:54<@Toprawa> ecks schedules Meeting 102 19:53:58<@Supreme_Emperor> fml 19:54:07<@Toprawa> Tommy, we're going to slide you in to schedule Meeting 104 and paperwork for Meeting 107 19:54:10<@Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Inquisitorius_bylaws 19:54:11<@Supreme_Emperor> Though I brought it on myself lol 19:54:26<@Toprawa> That concludes Inqmoot 101 19:54:29<@Toprawa> Thank you all for coming 19:54:35<@ecks> thanks for hosting