Talk:Grievous/Archive8

Grievous's accent
Is it me, or does Grievous have a Russian accent? I mean, he has a deep voice, sounds like he's been on the vodka and puts emphasis on his 'd's. I know this might sound like idle discussion, but GL grew up during the Cold War, so it might have some significance. Thanks. Unit 8311 15:53, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Call it interferrence with his robotic frame. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:09, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's Russian.--Herbsewell 22:35, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, that's obviously not canon. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:29, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
 * No, really?--Herbsewell 00:59, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 01:00, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
 * You know it's pretty dumb to point things out that are obvious.--Herbsewell 01:16, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Then ignore it. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 12:10, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Jack, Grievous's Russian accent is canon. Didn't you see the deleted scenes from Episode III where Grievous drinks vodka, calls everyone 'comrade' and mutters negatively about capatalists? (wink wink) Unit 8311 12:14, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * And think about it, Commonwealth of Independent States, Confederacy of Independent Systems?--Herbsewell 14:17, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Grievous's Russian accent = OOU = not canon. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 14:19, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Jack, his Russian accent is canon. Whether it's actually Russian is up for questioning.--Herbsewell 14:21, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * You're not listening. He has a Russian accent, but that's only OOU and therefore not canon, because there is no Russia in Star Wars. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 14:23, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah but for for reference, it's Russian. I could have a German accent even though I've lived in the states all my life.  Though it's not something to add in the article, since it's not canon, and this topic was just a question.--Herbsewell 14:27, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 14:30, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I dislike always being the voice of dissention, but I'm not so sure it's 100% Russian. It's got some German and Japanese qualities to it also, as well as some aspects that I can't figure out at all. I think we're looking at a completely fiction accent.Darth Ceratis 18:06, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I've met Russian people, and some of their accents are very similar to Grievous's. And the accent certainly sounds like a stereotypical Russian accent, that's for sure. Unit 8311 13:47, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Have you met anyone that sounds like Jar Jar?--Herbsewell 15:28, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, yes... Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 20:09, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a bad Dracula impression to me. So... Transylvanian? Romanian? Eggmanland 20:59, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It's debatable, I suppose. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 21:01, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * How about a Russian accent with a bad cough?--Herbsewell 21:05, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that seems right. ;) Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 22:06, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Necrosis
Following the Declaration of a New Order, clone troopers recovered Grievous's body, transporting it and his captured starfighter to one of Emperor Palpatine's secret storehouses on Utapau.

What source is this from? This counters Episode III film, as we know Obi-Wan took Grievous' fighter to escape Utapau. Should this information be removed as it contradicts the highest level of canon, that being the ROTS film? - JMAS 14:50, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous and Story of General Grievous II: Lord of War. And no, it doesn't contradict the film. Grievous's fighter was recovered after Kenobi had landed it in Tantive IV's hangar. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:20, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Six lightsabers?
In addition to this, he also has repulsor lifts built into his legs and his feet can double as hands, allowing him to wield six lightsabers all at once. I'm not really sure about this one. Is it ever stated that he had the ability to use 6 lightsabers at once? We've never seen him with more than four at a time, and in the Clone Wars he is shown fighting with one foot, but he still needed the other to support himself. I know he does have repulsors, but I kind of thought they were there to steady him when he was on one foot, not to completely levitate him off the ground.Darth Ceratis 18:12, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Unless there is a source for this, it should probably be changed to which in theory would allow him to wield six lightsabers all at once--Herbsewell 18:40, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:05, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Doubly agreed.Darth Ceratis 19:15, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I suppose we can change it now. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:17, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Already did.Darth Ceratis 20:48, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah... I noticed that after I posted that. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:08, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
 * No prob. To err is human...dispite this I do it too. :-)Darth Ceratis 00:26, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:29, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Grievous does this with 4 blades in Labyrinth of Evil. To quote the book:

He'd only need to split his arms to be able to do it with 6 blades. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 01:16, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, that works. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 01:20, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * So no one told James Luceno that Grievous had 4 arms? I don't know if that's necessarily means he could do it. It should stay the same.--Herbsewell 01:22, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * If he could do it like that, he could split his arms to make it six lightsabers. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 01:25, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * He could but it has never happened.--Herbsewell 01:26, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Still, I think that's enough to change it back. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 01:44, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * No it's not. We are still theorizing if Grievous can use six lightsabers.--Herbsewell 01:46, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * We now have concrete evidence that he could handle lightsabers with his feet. This, combined with the fact that he could split his two arms into four, is enough to change that paragraph back. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 01:47, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * No it's not. If he hasn't actually done it then it's a unproven theory, no matter what kind of evidence comes after.--Herbsewell 01:50, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * That's like saying Imperial-class Star Destroyers can't commence an orbital bombardment on a planet just because we haven't seen one yet. By combining the evidence of Grievous handling one lightsaber per foot and one lightsaber per four arms, we know that Grievous could use six lightsabers at once. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 14:39, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Then it would be "Star destroyers are capable of commencing orbital bombardment, although they have never been documented doing this.--Herbsewell 14:43, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, please. Just because something isn't documented doesn't mean it never happened. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 14:53, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I never implied that...--Herbsewell 14:59, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, that's what I got out of it. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 15:04, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The opting for how it is now, where it says he can do it, but it has just never happened in any canon appearance.--Herbsewell 15:06, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I've reworded it a bit. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 15:10, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * That's fine.--Herbsewell 15:16, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Great. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 15:18, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Cape issues?
I know that his colors are different in the films and such, but is that really much of an issue? Instead of it being a contradiction or something, is it possible that he just... changed his clothing? I know that the movies suggest otherwise, but it's just a thought.--LightWarden 04:22, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Where do they suggest otherwise?--Herbsewell 14:16, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * From the article: "It is noteworthy that even two shots of the finished film itself still retain the uncorrected white-colored garment: first, when the distant Grievous is stalking along the exterior of Invisible Hand and drops into an escape pod; and then in the following shot in which the General descends through the hatch with his cloak billowing out behind his head. A recent Hasbro action figure, essentially a repainted reissue of an earlier sculpt, has featured the "corrected" dark gray cloak." I still say the guy had time to hit wardrobe, it took time for Anakin and Obi-Wan to haul back from the Rim and fight their way to Grievous.--LightWarden 19:18, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, that may just be saying that the cloak changes immediately between two scenes, making it a mistake in the film. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 19:22, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, what is the big deal over his cape? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 14:20, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I could swear the change when he dropped into the escape pod was just a lighting thing, especially because it actually changes in one shot as he drops down.-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|20px]] 04:38, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * We're having a debate over the colour of Grievous's cape? Good god. Well, any changes in the colour of the cape in the film were obviously the result of a CGI mistake, or an overworked animator. It's not like Grievous changed his cape constantly between the scenes :-) Unit 8311 08:16, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 12:28, 22 January 2007 (UTC)