Wookieepedia:Inquisitorius/Log/2009 February 21

[19:05] <@Graestan> Here begins the article review: [19:05] <@Graestan> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mandalore_the_Ultimate [19:06] <@Graestan> Kill. The drama will subside. [19:06] <@Toprawa> Kill the bastard already [19:06] <@Toprawa> It's been /6 months/ [19:06] <@Darth_Culator> Kill with a mythosaur axe. [19:06] * Darthchristian (n=REDACTED@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/x-67bbb7bbe2dca361) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [19:06] <@Gonk> Oh, lol, we started [19:06] <@Gonk> Kill [19:06] <@Graestan> Everyone with a pair on the absentee notes says kill, too. :D [19:06] <@Darth_Culator> Wait, just for the log. [19:06] <@Darth_Culator> !nicks [19:06] <@Nuku-Nuku> Darth_Culator: ChanServ, Cylka, Darth_Culator, Darthchristian, Gonk, Graestan, Nuku-Nuku, and Toprawa [19:06] <@Darth_Culator> !topic [19:06] <@Nuku-Nuku> Darth_Culator: The Inquisitorius: "We Don't Actually Like Bothan Women That Much. Well, Most of Us." [19:07] <@Darth_Culator> Hmm. I was thinking the URL would be in there. Anyway, moving on. [19:07] <@Graestan> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Dooku&diff=2396388&oldid=2343785 [19:07] <@Toprawa> Kill. [19:08] <@Graestan> I have to say kill, as well. I don't think there's much coordination in the cleanup. [19:08] <@Darth_Culator> Ugh. I don't want to see this killed just for TCW crap. [19:08] <@Darth_Culator> Because the inevitable re-re-FA-ing will be absolutely horrid. [19:08] <@Graestan> The additions are being shoehorned in, the timeline is disturbing. [19:09] <@Gonk> Kill per rule 5: "be stable, i.e. it does not change significantly from day to day" [19:09] <@Toprawa> Yeah, that'smy problem - there's no uniformity [19:09] <@Toprawa> and, per Gonk, kill if only because this thing is going to be a problem again in a week [19:09] * @Gonk suspects this will be a short meeting, which is all to the good :) [19:09] <@Graestan> Everyone on the page says kill, and Chack gave me his vote because I am the Least of the Three Tyrants. :P [19:10] <@Graestan> It dies. [19:10] <@Graestan> Along with the scary plastic beard. [19:10] * @Darth_Culator isn't touching this turd next time it gets dumped on FAN. [19:10] <@Toprawa> Let's just delete the article. [19:11] <@Graestan> Motion to make its nomination a bannable offense. All opposed? [19:11] <@Gonk> Motion to add "(I'm looking at YOU, TCW articles)" to Rule 5 :p [19:11] <@Gonk> uh oh, rival motions [19:11] <@Darth_Culator> Both motions pass with no opposition. [19:12] <@Darth_Culator> Moving on. http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=GH-7_medical_analysis_unit&diff=2390316&oldid=2343782 [19:12] <@Graestan> Unsourced infobox field. [19:12] <@Toprawa> uhp [19:12] <@Toprawa> punctuation preceding ref note [19:12] <@Toprawa> I mean [19:13] <@Toprawa> following [19:13] <@Toprawa> KILL [19:13] <@Darth_Culator> :P [19:13] <@Graestan> The absentees are split, leaning to keep. [19:13] <@Darth_Culator> Seriously, anything left on this looks like a thirty-second fix. [19:13] <@Gonk> wait... the only unsourced field is its name...right? [19:13] <@Graestan> I say keep; it's really not too horrible. [19:13] <@Toprawa> How can this thing be in the movie and the junior novel, but not the novel itself? [19:13] <@Toprawa> that should be the ifrst appearance [19:13] <@Toprawa> and novels have a nice way of inserting new info [19:14] * Fiolli|Aroundish (n=Fiolli@wikia/Jedimasterfiolli) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [19:14] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Fiolli|Aroundish [19:14] * Nuku-Nuku sets mode: +o Fiolli|Aroundish [19:14] <@Gonk> ay, it's-a Fiolli [19:14] <@Graestan> Excellent point. I almost guarantee it's at least an IMO in the novelization. [19:14] <@Toprawa> I'm sorry. I'm going to be tight-assed dick and say kill. [19:15] <@Fiolli|Aroundish> Topic? [19:15] <@Darth_Culator> Eh. I have to say keep. It's un-horrible enough. [19:15] <@Graestan> I'm saying kill now, too, based on that alone. ROTS is a very comprehensive novel. [19:15] <@Fiolli|Aroundish> Sorry for my tardiness, gents. [19:15] * Fiolli|Aroundish is now known as Fiolli [19:16] <@Graestan> Fiolli, how do you feel about GH-7? [19:16] <@Darth_Culator> I'm not seeing anything in the novel that isn't in the movie. It's not even named. [19:16] <@Graestan> It's missing ROTS novel info, methinks [19:16] <@Fiolli> One sec, let me look again. [19:16] <@Graestan> But otherwise it's pretty clean' [19:17] <@Fiolli> I don't remember anything in the novel that is missing. [19:17] <@Fiolli> I've browsed it. [19:17] <@Fiolli> I change my proxy vote to keep. [19:17] <@Darth_Culator> The entire birth scene is under 800 words. [19:18] <@Gonk> Keep [19:18] <@Darth_Culator> There only seems to be a sentence mentioning the GH-7. "A general medical droid fussed and tinkered among the clutter of scanners and equipment." [19:18] <@Fiolli> Yeah. Only a couple of pages even mention a "medical droid," and I don't remember even a mention of GH-7, although a Ewok might be able to help. [19:19] <@Toprawa> That could be a Imo at the very least. [19:19] <@Fiolli> There is nothing that indicates it is GH-7. [19:19] <@Graestan> Alright, since we've done the legwork now, I can say keep again. But it's fully an appearance. [19:19] <@Toprawa> It's the same scene, though. Unless there were other medical droids in that scene. [19:19] <@Graestan> It's the same droid, Fiolli. There are two droids there in all sources. [19:19] <@Graestan> Just the med droid and the "boo-bah" one. [19:20] <@Darth_Culator> The other one is the one with "padded arms". [19:20] <@Darth_Culator> There aren't any others described in any detail. [19:20] <@Fiolli> There's an earlier mention of a medical droid earlier in the novel, too. That's what I'm referring to. [19:20] <@Fiolli> Exactly. [19:20] <@Fiolli> Let me find it. . . [19:20] <@Toprawa> This really isn't that important. [19:20] <@Graestan> Not the same droid as the Polis Massans' [19:20] <@Toprawa> I think there are enough votes to keep and move on [19:20] <@Darth_Culator> So add it to the appearances, ref tag the infobox, and send it on its way. [19:20] <@Graestan> Per Tope [19:20] <@Toprawa> The unsourced item is killing me, but, whatever [19:20] <@Toprawa> I can't tackle all laziness :P [19:21] <@Graestan> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Nute_Gunray&diff=2398221&oldid=2343784 [19:22] * Fiolli changes topic to 'The Inquisitorius: "We Don't Actually Like Bothan Women That Much. Well, Most of Us." | Nute Gunray, facing the ray-gun of an executioner.�' [19:22] <@Graestan> Unsourced additions. [19:22] <@Graestan> KILL. [19:22] <@Toprawa> at least one unsourced para [19:22] <@Toprawa> Kill on that alone. [19:22] <@Toprawa> actually, several [19:22] <@Fiolli> Kill. [19:22] <@Toprawa> in-line quotes [19:22] <@Gonk> guh, yeah, kill [19:22] * @Toprawa dies [19:22] <@Graestan> Everyone else says kill. [19:22] <@Fiolli> We need a template for in-line quotes. [19:22] <@Fiolli> That's another story. [19:22] <@Darth_Culator> Nobody disagrees with killing. [19:23] <@Fiolli> I found that page, by the way, about the medical droid. :) [19:24] <@Graestan> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Lutrillian&diff=2392362&oldid=2343786 [19:24] <@Graestan> "tar Wars [infinities|continuity]]. " [19:24] <@Graestan> hahaha sloppy [19:25] <@Toprawa> He didnt exactly add that in chronological order. [19:25] <@Darth_Culator> Eh, still. It seems to have addressed the meat of the only real objection. [19:25] * Tommy9281 (n=REDACTED@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/x-b8b99799a82692bd) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [19:25] * GrandMoffTranner (n=REDACTED@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/x-99bc918160c613eb) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [19:25] <@Graestan> Most people say keep on Lutrillian, of the absentees. [19:26] * Graestan sets mode: +o Tommy9281 [19:26] * @Tommy9281 (n=REDACTED@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/x-b8b99799a82692bd) Quit ("CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)"�) [19:26] <@Darth_Culator> Going to have to agree with a stay of execution here. [19:26] <@Gonk> Yeah, likewise [19:26] <@Fiolli> Can we keep it on probe? [19:26] <@Graestan> Keep for now. Whose was this? [19:26] <@Graestan> I need to whip them for the sloppy job. [19:26] <@Toprawa> Keep [19:27] <@Toprawa> SavageBob's [19:27] <@Graestan> Ah [19:27] <@Toprawa> In Bob's defense, it was kind of rushed off the FAN page from the get-go [19:27] <@Graestan> 9_9 [19:28] <@Graestan> Seriously, people in our own ranks forget we're a goddamn quality control team. [19:28] <@Graestan> Okay, moving on: [19:28] <@Graestan> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Starfighter_combat&diff=2374482&oldid=2343788 [19:28] <@Graestan> This article will never be enough to be "comprehensive." I'm not being a hater. [19:28] <@Toprawa> Fact. [19:28] <@Toprawa> It's not comprehensive right now, which is what counts at the mo' [19:28] <@Toprawa> So, kill [19:28] <@Graestan> Death! [19:29] <@Gonk> Broad concepts might make great GAs... but, per rule 5 :/ ... kill [19:29] * Tommy9281 (n=REDACTED@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/x-14c4f1d7da761941) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [19:29] <@Fiolli> Kill. [19:29] * Graestan sets mode: +o Tommy9281 [19:29] <@Darth_Culator> There's no way anyone could keep up with this alone. It'd be a WookieeProject unto itself. So it should be euthanized. [19:29] <@Fiolli> Wow. Culator is being merciful. [19:29] <@Graestan> Everyone and their brother on the Inqmoot page says kill. [19:30] <@Graestan> Ignoble death for it! [19:30] <@Darth_Culator> Did we skip force cage? [19:30] <@Toprawa> I need to pick up this Empire Strikes Back Coloring Book in the Lutrillian Source list, btw [19:30] <@Graestan> Ah, whoops. [19:30] <@Darth_Culator> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Force_cage&diff=2391881&oldid=2343787 [19:31] <@Graestan> I watched someone take great pains to fix this one. [19:31] <@Graestan> Keep. [19:31] * @Tommy9281 is on from his phone, therefore answers/responses may be delayed. [19:31] <@Toprawa> Cylka busted her ass on this one. [19:31] <@Toprawa> And SOTE is not necessarily a Force cage appearance. [19:31] <@Toprawa> Keep [19:31] <@Darth_Culator> The BTS is the thing I was most concerned about, and it looks to be as neatly reconciled as possible. Keepage is agreeable. [19:32] <@Fiolli> I can live with a keep on this one. [19:32] <@Fiolli> SOTE is definitely not something to hold this article up over, in my opinion. [19:32] <@Graestan> A kept article. [19:32] <@Graestan> Next! http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Anakin_Solo&diff=2392323&oldid=2343789 [19:33] <@Tommy9281> Ditto. [19:33] * Fiolli changes topic to 'The Inquisitorius: "We Don't Actually Like Bothan Women That Much. Well, Most of Us." | Anakin, Part the Second.�' [19:33] <@Darth_Culator> Mmm. We got a sourced infobox and a typo fixed. Whoop-de-doo. [19:33] <@Toprawa> What was wrong with this thing again? [19:33] <@Graestan> Kill Anakin. [19:33] <@Gonk> Drop a moon on it [19:33] <@Toprawa> besides at least one unsourced para [19:33] <@Darth_Culator> Look at what Havac's doing with Jacen and then ask what's wrong with Anakin. [19:34] <@Toprawa> ooh, I like the independent Legacy and Funeral sections [19:34] <@Darth_Culator> Death. Death death death. [19:34] <@Toprawa> and Relationships [19:34] <@Toprawa> Bootiful [19:34] <@Toprawa> Kill [19:34] <@Graestan> Glorious afterlife of the Jedi for Anakin. Absentees largely agree. [19:35] <@Graestan> Articles to consider for probation: [19:35] <@Graestan> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cronal [19:35] <@Graestan> Probe. No Mindor! And everyone and their brother on this site read that book and gushed about it endlessly, to boot! [19:35] <@Gonk> I vote probe 'em all [19:35] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Union_anakin.jpg he looks like a beardless Al Borland [19:36] <@Fiolli> lol [19:36] <@Tommy9281> per Gonk. [19:36] <@Toprawa> Probe [19:36] <@Fiolli> Probe. [19:36] <@Darth_Culator> Not to sound all Impish but... Ugh. [19:36] <@Graestan> Um, image quality! [19:36] * @Darth_Culator cringes at these re-re-re-compressed images. [19:36] <@Darth_Culator> And yes, probulate Cronal. [19:37] <@Graestan> Probe extended. [19:37] <@Graestan> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jedi_apparel [19:37] * Fiolli changes topic to 'The Inquisitorius: "We Don't Actually Like Bothan Women That Much. Well, Most of Us." | Jedi apparel. . . umm. . . yeah. . .�' [19:37] <@Darth_Culator> KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL [19:37] <@Toprawa> THe Appearances alone. [19:37] <@Fiolli> SKIP PROBE. . . KILL [19:38] <@Toprawa> Per Fiolli [19:38] <@Darth_Culator> Sorry, the appearances section made me snap there. [19:38] <@Graestan> Per Fiolli. [19:38] <@Graestan> "All instances in which Jedi wearing clothing appear. " [19:38] <@Fiolli> Seriously. . . I make a motion that we alter procedure on this case due to extenuating circumstances. [19:38] <@Toprawa> ==Appearances== [19:38] <@Tommy9281> per Master Fiolli [19:38] <@Fiolli> No one is going to fix that in one month. [19:38] <@Graestan> I am like Boss Nass-level indignant about bullshit source lists like that. [19:38] <@Darth_Culator> I'd rather not set that precedent just yet, as much as I love summary executions. [19:39] <@Toprawa> Let it sit and let anons make it worse in the meantime, then it'll be easier to kill :P [19:39] <@Gonk> Per Tope [19:40] <@Graestan> Probe then, fine. :'( [19:40] <@Darth_Culator> Right, so delaying the inevitable then. Moving on. [19:40] <@Graestan> I wanted it dead, Father! :'( [19:40] * @Fiolli disengages the laser cannons from his Star Destroyer. [19:40] <@Tommy9281> keep on pushin [19:40] <@Fiolli> One thing about Jedi apparel. . . however. . . [19:40] <@Graestan> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tavion_Axmis [19:41] <@Darth_Culator> I volunteer to probe Tavion. Probe her all night. [19:41] <@Fiolli> I don't even believe the article is comprehensive, since it /assumes/ that since a Jedi wears it, it is "Jedi-culture" apparel. Take Luke when he duels his father before Palpy. [19:41] <@Tommy9281> Eh, Marka Ragnosians. [19:41] <@Graestan> Extremely little work would be needed to fix Axmis. [19:41] <@Fiolli> I turn Tavion over to Culator. [19:41] <@Toprawa> There's a nice unsourced sentence at the end there [19:42] <@Toprawa> I'm just removing that [19:42] <@Fiolli> It is junk. [19:42] <@Graestan> One unsourced statement, lacking a P&A which could be written off the article. [19:42] <@Toprawa> Probe, per the P/A [19:42] <@Graestan> I see no reason to probe. But everyone on the Inqmoot page says probe, so my keep is futile. [19:42] <@Fiolli> Two unsourced statements. [19:42] <@Tommy9281> Probe [19:43] <@Toprawa> DC said he could fix it up [19:43] <@Fiolli> Without a P&A (which is in the LG, no?) then it needs to be probed. [19:43] <@Graestan> She be done did probed, then. [19:43] <@Graestan> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bastila_Shan [19:43] <@Graestan> Probe. [19:43] <@Graestan> All old KotOR articles are suspect under the new regime. :D [19:43] <@Toprawa> What is the fascination with sourcing something, and then putting parenthetical text outside of the ref note? [19:43] <@Darth_Culator> Mmm. Too bad for the little temporal issue, or we could probe her and Tavion at the same time. [19:43] <@Toprawa> It drives me bonkers [19:43] <@Toprawa> Probe [19:44] * @Darth_Culator promises to stop now. [19:44] <@Graestan> haha [19:44] <@Fiolli> XD [19:44] <@Fiolli> Ok, so wait. . . What's wrong with this obnoxious, ignorant, up-tight jerk? [19:44] <@Graestan> Inqmoot: Salty Edition [19:44] <@Tommy9281> Heavens. [19:45] <@Darth_Culator> Multiple unsourced statements in BTS, for one. [19:45] <@Fiolli> I thought somebody told me some crap about the BtS is all self-sourcing. [19:45] <@Darth_Culator> Not so much, no. [19:45] <@Tommy9281> Crap it was, Jedi Master. [19:45] <@Toprawa> BTS is rarely entirely self-sourcing [19:45] <@Toprawa> There is a Fact tag, there [19:45] <@Fiolli> Somebody said that to me a few days ago. Frankly, I don't buy any self-sourcing. [19:46] <@Toprawa> I just source everything. It keeps life simple. [19:46] <@Fiolli> Exactly. [19:46] <@Graestan> I self-source maybe one sentence at a time, max. [19:46] <@Tommy9281> Well, I do agree about some sources being self sourcing [19:46] <@Fiolli> Look, if there is fact-tag. Probe. [19:47] <@Tommy9281> Per Fiolli. [19:47] <@Darth_Culator> Probe her like you know Malak did. [19:47] <@Darth_Culator> (OK, that was the last one.) [19:47] * @Fiolli facepalms [19:47] <@Graestan> Lordamighty [19:48] <@Tommy9281> Mercy. [19:48] <@Darth_Culator> Sorry. Moving on. [19:48] * @Tommy9281 rolls a doobie. [19:49] <@Graestan> hang on [19:49] * @Toprawa is bored [19:49] * Graestan sets mode: +v Darthchristian [19:49] <@Darth_Culator> Wait, whats left to move on to? [19:49] <@Graestan> Darthchristian, what was that about Zsinj? [19:49] <+Darthchristian> Zsinj? [19:49] <@Graestan> Also, another agenda item. [19:49] <+Darthchristian> Oh. [19:50] <@Graestan> Didn't you have an issue with Zsinj, and I asked if you'd take it here? [19:50] <@Darth_Culator> Oy. [19:50] <+Darthchristian> Yes, I did [19:50] <@Graestan> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Zsinj#Special_projects [19:50] <@Graestan> Wow, code error plus. [19:51] <+Darthchristian> Pretty much, it's just written terribly. [19:51] * @Tommy9281 sits back. [19:51] <@Darth_Culator> Exsqueeze me? [19:51] <@Graestan> It looks pretty rough, imo. [19:51] <@Graestan> I move to ask it be placed on probation. [19:51] <+Darthchristian> It needs a rewrite. [19:51] <+Darthchristian> And a P&T expansion. [19:52] <@Darth_Culator> Make a list of un-vague problems and it will get done. [19:52] <@Fiolli> What kind of caption is that? (1.7) [19:52] <+Darthchristian> And the P&T needs to be desectioned [19:53] <@Tommy9281> Hey, Cylk. Didn't see you down thurr. We'll talk later. [19:53] <+Darthchristian> And these little tidbits I find throught out the article: How much of his image was factual and how much was a facade was something known only to the Warlord himself. Things like this: Need to be rewirtten or deleted [19:54] <+Darthchristian> There's a lot of questions throughtout the article, which are ORish and POVish [19:54] <@Darth_Culator> Like I said. Make a list. [19:54] <@Graestan> That about it? [19:54] <+Darthchristian> Oh, there are bullets in the flippin bio! [19:55] <@Darth_Culator> Yeah, that's something I actually meant to fix earlier. [19:55] <@Darth_Culator> So don't make me say the thing again about the list-making. [19:56] <@Graestan> Alright, so Zsinj is kept unprobed until and unless. [19:56] <@Graestan> Moving on. [19:56] * Graestan sets mode: -v Darthchristian [19:56] <@Graestan> *Revolving door clause* [19:56] <@Gonk> I vote per GT on this [19:56] <@Fiolli> I still say probe for Zsinj. [19:56] <@Graestan> I'm frankly tired of people leaving over and over. [19:56] <@Fiolli> Agreed. [19:57] <@Tommy9281> I'm with GT & Fiolli. [19:57] <@Graestan> One person, honestly, but anyone, generally. [19:57] <@Darth_Culator> Eh. [19:57] <@Graestan> Inqhood should be like adminship, imo, at least when it comes to getting back in. [19:57] <@Graestan> At least a vote at a meeting. [19:57] <@Darth_Culator> I say we just don't let people quit. [19:57] <@Graestan> It's not like the entire user base of the site votes. [19:57] <@Darth_Culator> It worked for the KGB. [19:58] <@Graestan> One person has quit several times for little reasons and then returned. I'd like to remove the dignity from that process. [19:58] <@Tommy9281> I like GT's thing about posting your status should you intend to be inactive for a time. [19:58] <@Graestan> We'd at least floated it past other people when Cull and Eyre came back. [19:59] <@Toprawa> I'm just tired of people who want attention by announcing they "might be quitting" [19:59] <@Tommy9281> I personally didn't use it as a revolving door. I don't plan any forseeable stepdowns, either. [19:59] <@Toprawa> If you're quitting, then leave already [19:59] <@Toprawa> Otherwise, just take your leave of absence and be quiet about it [19:59] <@Graestan> Indeed. [19:59] <@Tommy9281> But then other Inqs complain about a LOa [20:00] <@Toprawa> I'm not complaining about a leave of absence so much, unless it turns into something vulgar. [20:00] <@Tommy9281> rather, a quiet one. [20:00] <@Darth_Culator> The following things are a valid reason to leave: death [20:00] <@Darth_Culator> It's a short list. [20:00] <@Tommy9281> I agree, Top. [20:00] <@Fiolli> I would think being interred at a hospital would count, too. [20:01] <@Darth_Culator> We'll consider adding "near-death" at the next meeting. [20:01] <@Graestan> Well, as most of the absentees disagree with a vote requirement for re-entry, then I'd at least say this: [20:01] <@Graestan> Grow up. Quit being a baby quitter on a stupid website. Leave, or stay. Don't make a show of it. [20:02] <@Graestan> That's a general announcement. [20:02] <@Tommy9281> Now Grae [20:02] <@Darth_Culator> Like I always say, I plan to bury you all. [20:02] <@Graestan> Don't take it personal, Tommy. It wasn't directed at anyone in particular, and especially not you. [20:03] <@Tommy9281> no no, I wasnt. [20:03] <@Tommy9281> I was attempting to be silly. [20:03] * @Gonk flounces out of the room in a huff [20:03] <@Toprawa> haha [20:03] <@Gonk> ...assuming the meeting is over now [20:04] <@Graestan> It is.