Wookieepedia:Inquisitorius/Log/2011 January 16

[00:28]		Ok, here we go. [00:29]		Ready yourselves. [00:29]	* Fiolli	throws Xd a juice box over GMT's head. [00:29]		Team Coruscant Veterans up first. [00:29]		Down with them! [00:29]		http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Zuckuss [00:29]		http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Zuckuss [00:29]		Oh. [00:29]		I haven't read through it, but I think Trak did a great job from what I've taken the time to look at. [00:29]	 	Uh-oh. Before we get into this, can I add myself to all applicable list and fix stuff? [00:29]		It passes the look test, at the very least. [00:29]		I agree. [00:30]		Xd> what do you mean? [00:30]		Trak's been working hard on this. [00:30]	 	i.e and stuff. :P [00:30]		yes, Inqvotes may be considered retroactive [00:30]	 	ok, cool. [00:30]		I vote to keep Zuckuss unless there are any other concerns. [00:31]		Keep. [00:31]		Keep. [00:31]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Keep Zuckass. [00:31]	<CC7567>	Keep [00:31]	 	Keep [00:31]	<Culator|Away>	Zuckass! [00:31]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Sorry, "Suckuss." [00:31]	<Toprawa>	Zuck's sweet ass is kept. [00:31]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/4-LOM [00:32]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/4-LOM [00:32]	<Fiolli>	Keep. [00:32]	<CC7567>	Keep [00:32]	<Toprawa>	I've taken less time to look at this, but it too looks purdy. [00:32]	 	Keep [00:32]	<Toprawa>	Keep [00:32]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Keep. [00:33]	<Toprawa>	Any other opines? [00:33]	<GreenTentacle>	Keep. [00:33]	<Toprawa>	4-LOM kept. [00:33]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Christophsis [00:33]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Battle_of_Christophsis [00:33]	<Toprawa>	CC claims domination on this territory. [00:33]	<Fiolli>	Keep. [00:33]	<CC7567>	(abstain) [00:33]	 	Keep. [00:33]	<Toprawa>	Keep [00:34]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Clone Wars? It should be killed outright! [00:34]	<GrandMoffTranner>	But, what the hell, keep. [00:34]	<Toprawa>	Tranner's decision is upheld. [00:34]	<Toprawa>	Others? [00:34]	<Fiolli>	Keep. [00:35]	<GreenTentacle>	Keep. [00:35]	<Toprawa>	Battle of Christophsis kept. [00:35]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gotal [00:35]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Gotal_(second_review) [00:35]	* CC7567	sighs [00:35]	<Toprawa>	Basically, Bob has announced he's giving up on this project. [00:35]	<CC7567>	I commend the people who were working on this, but it just isn't there [00:35]	<Toprawa>	See the final comment on the probe page. [00:35]	<CC7567>	Kill [00:35]	 	Kill. [00:35]	<Toprawa>	Agreed. [00:35]	<Toprawa>	Kill [00:35]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Killify. [00:35]	 	Mega-amount of redlinks. [00:36]	<GreenTentacle>	Kill. [00:36]	<Toprawa>	Gotal killed. [00:36]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wat_Tambor [00:36]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Wat_Tambor_(second_review) [00:36]	<Toprawa>	It just /looks/ better to me [00:37]	<Toprawa>	Menkooroo fixed up some stuff. [00:37]	<GreenTentacle>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Wat_Tambor&diff=3395891&oldid=3337711 [00:37]	<CC7567>	Keep [00:37]	<Toprawa>	Keep [00:37]	<Toprawa>	All absentees say keep as well. [00:37]	<Culator|Away>	Agreed on the Shon-Ju thing, so keep. [00:37]	<Fiolli>	Keep. [00:37]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Keep. [00:37]	 	Keep. [00:38]	<Toprawa>	Wat Tambor kept. [00:38]	<GreenTentacle>	Keep. [00:38]	<Culator|Away>	Oh, this should work now. [00:38]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Evir_Derricote [00:38]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-inquisitorius +o ecks by Culator|Away [00:38]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Evir_Derricote [00:38]	 	w00t, thanks. [00:39]	<GreenTentacle>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Evir_Derricote&diff=3399294&oldid=3337721 [00:39]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Evir_Derricote&diff=3378112&oldid=3378089 some stuff there [00:39]	<CC7567>	I can't see anything still wrong [00:39]	<CC7567>	though I'm admittedly not familiar with TFUII [00:40]	<Culator|Away>	Honestly, it feels like a bit too much detail on the Dac resistance incident, but I wouldn't ever kill something for too much detail. So keep. [00:40]	<Toprawa>	Keep [00:40]	<CC7567>	Keep [00:40]	<Fiolli>	Keep. [00:40]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Keep. [00:40]	<GreenTentacle>	The whole FA thing is based on too much detail. :P Keep. [00:40]	 	Keep. [00:41]	<Toprawa>	Evir Derricote kept. [00:41]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wes_Janson [00:41]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Wes_Janson_(third_review) [00:41]	<Toprawa>	Lots of revamping. [00:42]	<Toprawa>	FWIW, I think this would qualify for our Inq review redux thing we never actually implemented. [00:43]	<Toprawa>	I really can't believe a P/T should be so short for a character so well-detailed and complex. [00:43]	<CC7567>	Do we vote keep in the meantime? [00:43]	<Toprawa>	That bothers me. [00:43]	<Toprawa>	three paragraphs? [00:43]	<Toprawa>	we vote to keep if we think it should be kept [00:44]	<Toprawa>	I'm inclined to extend probe and require P/T expansion [00:44]	<CC7567>	Extend probe, then [00:44]	<Toprawa>	I got a longer P/T for my Orlok nom and he appears on five pages in a CSW comic [00:44]	<Fiolli>	I'm inclined to simply kill after all this time. [00:45]	<Toprawa>	I could change my vote to kill if consensus went that way. [00:45]	<Fiolli>	Otherwise, we're going to end up with a Jaina Solo-like "Wes Janson (eighteenth review)" on our hands. [00:45]	<GreenTentacle>	We can't kill over anything new. [00:45]	<CC7567>	Per GT [00:45]	<GrandMoffTranner>	I say extend probe. [00:45]	<Fiolli>	Has the Bts even been touched? [00:45]	<Toprawa>	It has. [00:45]	<Fiolli>	Satisfactorily? [00:45]	<Fiolli>	That's the bigger question for me. I'm not the one who objected, so I'm not sure. [00:45]	<GreenTentacle>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Wes_Janson&diff=3397773&oldid=3337762 [00:46]	<Culator|Away>	Extend once more, but that's it unless we come up with entirely new issues at the next meeting. [00:46]	<GreenTentacle>	It's the Insider stuff, but not the general beefing. [00:46]	<GreenTentacle>	Oh, actually...it's both. [00:46]	<GreenTentacle>	Missed a bit. [00:46]	<CC7567>	Blah. [00:46]	<Fiolli>	Whatever. I don't care. [00:46]	<CC7567>	There's only about one sentence dealing with his appearances, which I think is what the whole Bts beefing was after [00:47]	<Fiolli>	I say object on the P/T... [00:47]	<Fiolli>	GT: I saw that, but I'm not sure it was done satisfactorily. That was my point. [00:47]	<Toprawa>	We could request even more BTS beefing. [00:48]	<GreenTentacle>	More BTS and P&T would be fair criticisms. [00:48]	<Toprawa>	the succession box should be listing years for people too [00:48]	<Toprawa>	and the Unknown needs to go [00:48]	<Toprawa>	ok, are there any objections to extending probe? [00:48]	<Toprawa>	I'm considering everyone in support of it otherwise [00:48]	 	Extend. [00:49]	<Toprawa>	Wes Janson probe extended...perhaps for the last time. [00:49]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Saelt-Marae [00:49]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Saelt-Marae [00:49]	<Toprawa>	we determined that the Episode I stuff was too ambiguous to be this character necessarily [00:49]	<CC7567>	Keep then [00:49]	<Toprawa>	"Yak Face" is a general term for all members of the species, according to Bob [00:49]	<Toprawa>	*However* :P [00:50]	<Toprawa>	Jinzler brought up new stuff. [00:50]	<Toprawa>	# Perhaps a brief BTS note to mention that Saelt-Marae is used an example Yarkora name in Ultimate Alien Anthology. --Jinzler 18:01, January 14, 2011 (UTC) [00:50]	<CC7567>	Oh [00:50]	<CC7567>	9_9 [00:50]	<CC7567>	Can I just add that now so we can be done with it? :P [00:50]	<Fiolli>	Yes. [00:50]	<Toprawa>	Go for it. [00:50]	<GreenTentacle>	Per CC. [00:50]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Please. :p [00:50]	 	Keep then. [00:50]	<Toprawa>	Keep [00:51]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Keep. [00:51]	<GreenTentacle>	Keep. [00:52]	<CC7567>	Done; keep :P [00:52]	<Toprawa>	I'm guessing the Tag & Bink stuff should probably at least be mentioned in there somewhere. [00:52]	<CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Saelt-Marae&diff=3404726&oldid=3403229 [00:52]	<Toprawa>	Which it's not [00:52]	<Toprawa>	I don't know what that entails, though [00:52]	<GrandMoffTranner>	I can check right now. [00:53]	<Toprawa>	Good man [00:54]	<GrandMoffTranner>	He just appears as a background character in one panel. [00:54]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Nothing notable. [00:54]	<Toprawa>	should that not be mention in the BTS, at least? [00:54]	<Toprawa>	we dictated that non-canon biographies go into the BTS [00:54]	<Toprawa>	technically that counts [00:54]	<GrandMoffTranner>	I suppose. Want me to add that? :p [00:54]	<Toprawa>	sure [00:55]	<Toprawa>	Otherwise, upholding previous keep votes [00:55]	<CC7567>	Now keep? :P [00:55]	<Toprawa>	Saelt-Marae kept. [00:55]	 	Keep. [00:55]	<Fiolli>	Keep. [00:55]	 	o.o [00:55]	<Toprawa>	If anyone objects to it, speak up now [00:55]	<Toprawa>	Otherwise, moving on [00:55]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Morseerian [00:55]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Morseerian [00:56]	<Toprawa>	I honestly don't even remember what we decided doing with this thing. [00:56]	<Fiolli>	I saw what Bob did... I'm still not satisfied with the wording entirely, but I'll vote to keep. [00:56]	<Toprawa>	Agreeing to remove the 12,000 BBY mention or something? [00:56]	<Toprawa>	Fill us in, Fiolli :P [00:56]	<Fiolli>	The hard date was complete fanon, and his wording (I'm thoroughly convinced) is still bordering on OR and a deliberate misinterpretation of the source. [00:57]	<Fiolli>	But, with the hard date link removed and the wording tweaked, I'm not going to fight him over it. [00:57]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Morseerian&diff=3366814&oldid=3341105 [00:57]	<Toprawa>	If you're content, I'm content. [00:57]	<Toprawa>	Keep on that [00:57]	<Fiolli>	I'm not. I'm resigning. [00:57]	<Fiolli>	(to that point, that is) [00:57]	<CC7567>	Keep [00:57]	<GreenTentacle>	Keep. [00:57]	<Culator|Away>	Meh! [00:57]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Keep. [00:57]	 	keep [00:58]	<Toprawa>	Morseerian kept. [00:58]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Flint [00:58]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Flint_(second_review) [00:58]	<Toprawa>	no change made [00:58]	<Fiolli>	Kill. [00:58]	<CC7567>	Kill [00:58]	<GreenTentacle>	Kill. [00:58]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Kill. [00:58]	 	kill [00:58]	<Toprawa>	Kill [00:59]	<Toprawa>	Flint killed. [00:59]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Conan_Antonio_Motti [00:59]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Conan_Antonio_Motti [00:59]	<GreenTentacle>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Conan_Antonio_Motti&diff=3395037&oldid=3367866 [00:59]	<Fiolli>	Keep. [01:00]	<CC7567>	Keep [01:00]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Keep. [01:00]	<Toprawa>	Now /that's/ the kind of P/T I like :P [01:00]	<Toprawa>	KEEP [01:00]	 	keep [01:00]	<GreenTentacle>	P&T's too long. Kill. :P [01:00]	<GreenTentacle>	By which I mean keep. [01:01]	<Toprawa>	Conan kept. [01:01]	<Toprawa>	Finally moving on to the Rookies. [01:01]	<Toprawa>	Or is it Rookiees? [01:01]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Xamuel_Lennox [01:01]	<Toprawa>	update needed [01:01]	<CC7567>	Probe [01:02]	<GreenTentacle>	I hate that card game. [01:02]	 	probbe [01:02]	<Toprawa>	Same [01:02]	<GreenTentacle>	Which nobody in the world has except Mauser. [01:02]	<CC7567>	(on a side note, the image captions don't deserve punctuation, as most of them aren't sentences) [01:02]	<Toprawa>	this nom was well before we adopted that :P [01:02]	<Toprawa>	Probe [01:02]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Probe. [01:03]	<Toprawa>	Others? [01:03]	<GreenTentacle>	Probify. [01:03]	<Fiolli>	Probe. [01:03]	<Toprawa>	Xamuel Lennox probed. [01:03]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CC-5052 [01:03]	<Toprawa>	* Finally found the info, so the article has been updated. CC7567 (talk) 18:13, January 8, 2011 (UTC) [01:03]	 	I'm going to sleep. 3 am. Later guys. [01:04]	<CC7567>	Fixed that one (after Mauser finally clarified it :P ) [01:04]	<Toprawa>	later, Xd [01:04]	<GreenTentacle>	Later. [01:04]	<Fiolli>	Later. [01:04]	 	kill the triage and Tope has my votes [01:04]	<Fiolli>	Keep. [01:04]	=-=	ecks is now known as ecks|zzz [01:04]	<Toprawa>	I say we require Mauser to detail what the updates are that he's "discovering" [01:04]	<ecks|zzz>	also keep CC-5052 [01:04]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Per Tope. [01:04]	<GreenTentacle>	Totally per Tope. [01:05]	<Toprawa>	Keep this guy [01:05]	<GreenTentacle>	And keep. [01:06]	<Toprawa>	all absentees say spare [01:06]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Keep. [01:06]	<Toprawa>	CC-5052 not probed. [01:06]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Yoxgit [01:06]	<Toprawa>	Update needed [01:06]	<Toprawa>	again with the card game [01:06]	<CC7567>	Probe [01:06]	<GreenTentacle>	Probe. [01:07]	<Toprawa>	Probe [01:07]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Probe. [01:07]	<Fiolli>	Probe. [01:07]	<Toprawa>	Yoxgit probed. [01:07]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/501st_Legion [01:07]	<Toprawa>	Card game update needed. [01:07]	<GreenTentacle>	Every sodding month. :P [01:07]	<Toprawa>	XD [01:07]	<GreenTentacle>	Probe. [01:07]	<Toprawa>	Probe [01:07]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Probe. [01:08]	<CC7567>	Probe [01:08]	<CC7567>	I swear, two meetings from now we're going to be probing it again :P [01:08]	<Fiolli>	Probe. [01:08]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Next meeting, we can kill it. :p [01:08]	<Fiolli>	Put us out of our misery. [01:08]	<Toprawa>	501st Legion probed. [01:09]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Stryfe [01:09]	<Toprawa>	# Darth Stryfe — update needed [01:09]	<Toprawa>	* Updated. Grunny (talk) 10:13, January 8, 2011 (UTC) [01:09]	<Fiolli>	Keep. [01:09]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Keep. [01:09]	<Toprawa>	Keep [01:09]	<CC7567>	Keep [01:09]	<GreenTentacle>	Keep. [01:10]	<Toprawa>	Darth Stryfe not probed. [01:10]	<Toprawa>	someone listed Motti again in this list [01:10]	<Toprawa>	bypassing that [01:10]	<Toprawa>	and Tambor [01:10]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Nihl [01:10]	<Toprawa>	# Darth Nihl — update needed [01:10]	<Toprawa>	* Addressed.—Tommy 9281 01:03, January 14, 2011 (UTC) [01:11]	<Toprawa>	There's an unsourced item in the sucky box. [01:11]	<GrandMoffTranner>	We skipped Caedus. [01:11]	<Toprawa>	no doubt an easy fix [01:11]	<Toprawa>	oops, we'll come back [01:11]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Just an fyi. :p [01:11]	<GreenTentacle>	Probe for unsourced box thingy. [01:12]	<Fiolli>	Probe. [01:12]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Probe. [01:12]	<GreenTentacle>	Shame Tommy's not here, so he could just fix it. [01:12]	<Toprawa>	Probe. unless someone wants to fix it [01:12]	<Toprawa>	I'm sure it's easy enough [01:12]	<Toprawa>	or even can fix it [01:12]	<CC7567>	Probe [01:12]	<Toprawa>	Probe, then [01:13]	<Toprawa>	Darth Nihl probed [01:13]	<Toprawa>	Moving back to Caedus [01:13]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Caedus [01:13]	<Toprawa>	Update was needed. [01:14]	<GreenTentacle>	Update looks done. [01:14]	<CC7567>	Keep [01:14]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Keep. [01:14]	<Fiolli>	Keep. [01:14]	<Toprawa>	Many thanks to Havac for keeping us so well abreast of his article's developments [01:14]	<GreenTentacle>	Keep. [01:15]	<Toprawa>	the absentees support keeping [01:15]	<Toprawa>	Caedus is kept [01:15]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tian_Chyler [01:15]	<Toprawa>	Update needed [01:15]	<GreenTentacle>	I almost did this one. [01:16]	<GreenTentacle>	If it's just the card it's a sentence. [01:16]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Not /more/ of these cards. [01:16]	<GreenTentacle>	But I don't know if she's in the scenarios. [01:16]	<Fiolli>	Probe. [01:16]	<CC7567>	Probe [01:16]	<GreenTentacle>	Probe. [01:16]	<Toprawa>	Probe [01:16]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Probe. [01:17]	<Toprawa>	Tian Chyler probed. [01:17]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jaina_Solo [01:17]	<Toprawa>	# Jaina Solo — update needed [01:17]	<Toprawa>	* Updated for Vortex and the latest Invasion. Atarumaster88 (Talk page) 15:31, January 8, 2011 (UTC) [01:17]	<Fiolli>	Keep. [01:17]	<CC7567>	Keep [01:17]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Keep. [01:18]	<GreenTentacle>	Probe. [01:18]	<GreenTentacle>	She has an unsourced quote. [01:18]	<GreenTentacle>	Unless anybody can provide a source quickly. [01:18]	<Toprawa>	We should be listing years in the succ box too. [01:18]	<GreenTentacle>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jaina_Solo#Engagement [01:19]	<CC7567>	Oh [01:19]	<CC7567>	Eh, probe [01:19]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Bah. Probe it, then. [01:19]	<Toprawa>	Probe [01:19]	* GreenTentacle	waits for the traditional Jaina probe joke. [01:20]	<Toprawa>	Others? [01:20]	<Culator|Away>	I was waiting for Shu Mai for the probe joke. Hawt. [01:20]	<Fiolli>	Probe. [01:20]	* CC7567	barfs [01:21]	<Toprawa>	Jaina Solo probed. [01:21]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Shu_Mai [01:21]	<Toprawa>	# Shu Mai — tag [01:21]	<Toprawa>	* Added source. Somebody might want to slot that sentence in somewhere else rather than leaving it as a short paragraph. Green Tentacle (Talk) 17:48, January 3, 2011 (UTC) [01:21]	<Toprawa>	o Merged that last short sentence in with the paragraph before it. Trak Nar Ramble on 04:13, January 4, 2011 (UTC) [01:21]	<Fiolli>	Keep. [01:21]	<GreenTentacle>	Keep. [01:22]	<Toprawa>	Keep [01:22]	<CC7567>	Keep [01:22]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Keep. [01:22]	<GrandMoffTranner>	So much for the probe joke here... [01:22]	<Toprawa>	Shu Mai probed. [01:22]	<Fiolli>	Keep. [01:22]	<Toprawa>	I have to piss really bad. I'll be back in a minute. Proceed, anyone, if you wish. [01:23]	<CC7567>	XD [01:23]	<Fiolli>	Culator? Thoughts on Shu Mai? [01:23]	<GreenTentacle>	She's already probed, dangit. [01:23]	<Toprawa>	Back. [01:23]	<Fiolli>	Ok. Shu Mai is kept. [01:23]	<Culator|Away>	What I said earlier *was* the joke, so no. [01:24]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Zam_Wesell [01:24]	<Fiolli>	Keep. [01:24]	<GreenTentacle>	Or kept. Or something. [01:24]	<Toprawa>	it says to see here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Zam_Wesell [01:24]	<Toprawa>	# Zam Wesell (see here) [01:24]	<Toprawa>	* I added it to this list for completeness, but I fixed it a couple of days ago. — Fiolli; 17:47, January 1, 2011 (UTC) [01:24]	<Toprawa>	Keep [01:24]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Keep. [01:25]	<GreenTentacle>	Keep. [01:25]	<CC7567>	Keep [01:25]	<Toprawa>	Zam Wesell kept. [01:25]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Bane [01:25]	<Toprawa>	# Darth Bane (see here) [01:25]	<Toprawa>	* I have given the article a cleanup, and everything seems to be in working order. I do, however, disagree that an equipment section is needed. If the Inq determines that an equipment section is needed, I will add one, but I do not see the necessity. Chack Jadson (Talk) 23:39, January 6, 2011 (UTC) [01:26]	<Toprawa>	here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Darth_Bane_(third_review) [01:26]	<Toprawa>	Any takers? [01:26]	<Fiolli>	I still adhere to the belief that this needs an equipment section. We've pushed for it on far less, and this article has plenty that could be extrapolated there. [01:27]	<GreenTentacle>	Any particular equipment other than a lightsaber? [01:27]	<Toprawa>	I have no familiarity with the subject. [01:27]	<Fiolli>	Holocron [01:27]	<Fiolli>	Both of which have information, from my reading of the article. [01:28]	<Fiolli>	There's a ship, too, if I recall correctly, but I'm blanking on the name. [01:28]	<Fiolli>	Hold on... I'll look... [01:28]	<Toprawa>	The /Main Bane// [01:29]	<CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cad_Bane :P [01:29]	<Fiolli>	Valcyn [01:29]	<Fiolli>	and Triumph [01:29]	<Fiolli>	Both of those... [01:30]	<GreenTentacle>	I look forward to TCW making the Banes related. :P [01:30]	<Toprawa>	I could probe on Equipment then [01:30]	<Toprawa>	I'm convinced. [01:30]	<Toprawa>	Cad Bane actually has latent Sith potential. [01:30]	<Toprawa>	He explores his namesake in S4 [01:31]	<Toprawa>	then goes under the tutelage of Dooku after this new Maul-kin dies [01:31]	<CC7567>	9_9 [01:31]	<CC7567>	Anyway, Darth Bane might as well get an Equipment section [01:31]	<Toprawa>	Votes for Bane, please. [01:31]	<Fiolli>	Probe. [01:31]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Ah, right. :p [01:31]	<CC7567>	I know not all Jedi/Sith have one, but I don't see why not [01:31]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Probe. [01:31]	<CC7567>	Probe [01:31]	<Toprawa>	Probe [01:31]	<GreenTentacle>	Probe. [01:31]	<Toprawa>	Darth Bane probed. [01:31]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_the_Rishi_moon [01:32]	<Toprawa>	# Battle of the Rishi moon — "in use" for over three months. Green Tentacle (Talk) 17:55, January 3, 2011 (UTC) [01:32]	<Toprawa>	* bah, sorry. It's been fixed. JangFett (Talk) 18:05, January 8, 2011 (UTC) [01:32]	<CC7567>	Keep [01:32]	<Toprawa>	Keep [01:32]	<GreenTentacle>	Keep. [01:32]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Keep. [01:32]	<Fiolli>	Keep.] [01:32]	<Fiolli>	Keep. [01:32]	<Toprawa>	Battle of the Rishi moon kept [01:32]	<GreenTentacle>	I've added in use to the maintenance page since they're worth keeping an eye on. [01:32]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Glurrg [01:32]	<Fiolli>	Probe. [01:33]	<Toprawa>	# Glurrg — intro redlink; however, one could probably remove it if the source simply says "at least three millenia". 1358 (Talk) 21:28, January 5, 2011 (UTC) [01:33]	<Toprawa>	* The source implies it was 3000 years before the Invasion of Naboo, so 3032 BBY. That year article was deleted by Toprawa for being unverified; the source is Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds. Year article re-created and sourced. Atarumaster88 (Talk page) 15:45, January 8, 2011 (UTC) [01:33]	<Fiolli>	Probe. [01:33]	<Fiolli>	Prove to me in the source where it states three thousand years. [01:33]	<Fiolli>	I'm tired of this Nathan Butler-like speculation on dates. [01:34]	<Fiolli>	I fail to find it, and I don't see where that year is coming from. [01:34]	<Toprawa>	Can you quote for us where this is evidently coming from? [01:34]	<Fiolli>	Supposedly this is coming from Galactic Battlegrounds. [01:35]	<Fiolli>	I just can't find that in there. [01:35]	<Toprawa>	I'm also guessing this is bad 2007-class speculation: "However, whether they were symbiotic or employed as slaves to the Gungans was unknown.[2]" [01:36]	<GreenTentacle>	I would say you're right. [01:36]	<Toprawa>	Again speculation: "Glurrgs were apparently native to the planet of Naboo" [01:37]	<Toprawa>	Again speculation: "Glurrgs did not appear to be as adept at construction underwater as they were terrestrially" [01:37]	<CC7567>	Probe on those, at least [01:37]	<GrandMoffTranner>	So I presume we're going to vote to probe? [01:37]	<Fiolli>	That could be IU speculation, but that needs to be explicitly stated as to who thought that. [01:37]	<Toprawa>	Again speculation: "They made unique sounds, which could have been animal noises or some kind of language. Whatever the case, glurrgs definitely did not speak Galactic Basic Standard or the Gunganese dialect of Basic" [01:38]	<Toprawa>	It's not IU speculation. [01:38]	<Toprawa>	It's just extrapolating from what you see the species do in gameplay [01:38]	<Fiolli>	Fair enough. [01:38]	<Fiolli>	Probe all the way to Georgia. [01:38]	<GreenTentacle>	Probe all the way to Uranus. [01:39]	<Fiolli>	XD [01:39]	<Toprawa>	"Glurrgs are not stipulated in the game to be sentient or non-sentient, though the fact that their species name is de-capitalized in an in-game dialogue sequence spoken by Marsune indicates that they are possibly non-sentient. However, no official clarification of the matter was given until the release of The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia in 2008, which confirmed that they were non-sentient." [01:39]	<Toprawa>	That editorial speculation in the first sentence really isn't necessary [01:39]	<Toprawa>	I could go on like this. [01:39]	<Toprawa>	This is what 2007-era articles look like, for the record :P [01:39]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Let's just probe it, shall we? :p [01:39]	<Fiolli>	Probe. [01:40]	<Toprawa>	Probe. on all of that. And also mention this date issue as well. Basically, quote the material this comes from for proof. [01:40]	<Toprawa>	I think we have four probes. [01:40]	<Toprawa>	Maybe 5. [01:41]	<Toprawa>	Glurrg is probed. [01:41]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Arca_Jeth [01:41]	<Toprawa>	# Arca Jeth — intro redlink. 1358 (Talk) 21:32, January 5, 2011 (UTC) [01:41]	<Toprawa>	* On a closer look, it needs a general cleanup — linking and context on things need to be checked. Just start reading the bio and you'll see what I mean. Even Jeth himself comes completely out of the blue. 1358 (Talk) 21:55, January 5, 2011 (UTC) [01:41]	<Toprawa>	o Redlink is gone, although I'm doublechecking the year. –Tm_T (Talk) 10:17, January 8, 2011 (UTC) [01:42]	<Toprawa>	I agree with that. [01:42]	<Toprawa>	The article just kind of jumps into it without any kind of introduction [01:42]	<Fiolli>	Yeah. [01:42]	<Toprawa>	The entire thing looks like it could be beefed up, but I don't know about that specifically [01:43]	<CC7567>	Probe [01:43]	<Toprawa>	Probe. Perhaps leave a note about looking into general expansion. [01:43]	* Toprawa	shrugs [01:43]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Probe. [01:43]	<GreenTentacle>	Probe. [01:44]	<Toprawa>	Others? [01:44]	<Toprawa>	don't make me send out the Inq signal :P [01:44]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Dew it. [01:44]	<Toprawa>	!ingsignal [01:44]	<Nuku-Nuku>	Toprawa: Error: "ingsignal" is not a valid command. [01:44]	<Toprawa>	!inqsignal [01:44]	<CC7567>	XD [01:44]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Fail. [01:44]	<Nuku-Nuku>	CavalierOne! CC7567! ChackJadson! Cylka! Darth_Culator! Eyrezer! Fiolli! GrandMoffTranner! GreenTentacle! Grunny! IFYLOFD! Jujiggum! Tommy9281! Toprawa and/or Ralltiir! Xicer9! Xwing328! [01:44]	<GrandMoffTranner>	:p [01:45]	<Toprawa>	Hey. [01:45]	<Toprawa>	G's look like Q's [01:45]	<Toprawa>	Give me a break :P [01:46]	<GreenTentacle>	Somebody say "probe" already. :P [01:46]	<Toprawa>	If we don't get a 5th vote, I'm going to have to include the absentees, who all say spare. [01:46]	<Culator|Away>	"'probe' already" [01:46]	<Toprawa>	Arca Jeth probed. [01:47]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Amanoa [01:47]	<Toprawa>	# Amanoa — intro redlink. 1358 (Talk) 21:32, January 5, 2011 (UTC) [01:47]	<Toprawa>	* Unable to find a source for that year, so it was reworked to not include such a specific number. Addressed, and I'll comb over sometime soon to make sure everything else is sound.—Tommy 9281 18:35, January 12, 2011 (UTC) [01:47]	<CC7567>	Probe [01:47]	<CC7567>	Wait [01:47]	<CC7567>	Blah. [01:47]	<Toprawa>	Tommy says spare because he's working on it. [01:48]	<Toprawa>	I don't see any other issues. [01:48]	<CC7567>	Spare, then [01:48]	<Toprawa>	Keep [01:48]	<GreenTentacle>	Keep. [01:48]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Keep. [01:48]	<GreenTentacle>	Although she's totally probe-worthy. :P [01:49]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Yay. Probe joke. [01:49]	<Toprawa>	Absentees say spare. [01:49]	<Toprawa>	Amanoa not probed. [01:49]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Arbra [01:49]	<Toprawa>	# Arbra - BTS is really lacking, based on old 2007 article standards. The intro, too, probably wouldn't hurt from a general beefing up. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:53, January 7, 2011 (UTC) [01:49]	<Toprawa>	* I removed speculation from the BTS, which means that now it needs even more expanding. :P Also, the sole remaining sentence in the BTS needs to be sourced. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 00:01, January 8, 2011 (UTC) [01:49]	<Toprawa>	* The more one looks closer at the article, the more the overall lack of detail becomes evident. The Description section alone is in need of an expansion/update from new Atlas geographical information, but I feel the entire article as a whole would benefit from a general beefing up. Sorry to keep beating a dead horse when I refer to "2007-era detail." Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:01, January... [01:49]	<Toprawa>	...8, 2011 (UTC) [01:49]	<Toprawa>	Seriously. [01:50]	<CC7567>	Probe [01:50]	<CC7567>	And be DONE with it! :P [01:50]	<GreenTentacle>	Don't know about the general detail bit, but the BTS sucks. [01:50]	<GreenTentacle>	Probe. [01:50]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Probe. [01:50]	<Toprawa>	I guarantee that article can be beefed up. [01:50]	<Toprawa>	I might rewrite it sometime. [01:50]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Can we just blanket-probe the last two articles to speed things up? :p [01:51]	<Toprawa>	And the planet apparently got some new image in the new Starships & Vehicles or whatever, which isn't listed in the Sources [01:51]	<Toprawa>	Probe [01:51]	<Toprawa>	Probe on all absentees too [01:51]	<GreenTentacle>	There's a paragraph to go with that picture. [01:52]	<Toprawa>	Arbra probed. [01:52]	<GreenTentacle>	Probably nothing new though. [01:52]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Second_Battle_of_Borleias_(Yuuzhan_Vong_War) [01:52]	<Toprawa>	I'm going to let you read the details on the meeting page. [01:52]	<Toprawa>	But several issues [01:52]	<CC7567>	Probe [01:52]	<Toprawa>	"Second Battle of Borleias (Yuuzhan Vong War) — Pre-Inq FA with numerous issues. Among them" sums it up nicely [01:53]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Probe. [01:53]	<Toprawa>	All pre-Inq FAs should be put through the Inq Redux Grinder [01:53]	<Toprawa>	Probe [01:54]	<GreenTentacle>	Probe. [01:54]	<Toprawa>	all absentees vote probe [01:54]	<Toprawa>	Second Battle of Borleias probed [01:54]	<Toprawa>	last one on the list [01:54]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Form_V:_Shien_/_Djem_So [01:54]	<Toprawa>	# Form V: Shien / Djem So—someone recently went through the article and made a horde of revisions that separate the article from its FA-status state. The changes should get reverted or at least be reviewed somehow, though I'm not sure in what manner we would do it. CC7567 (talk) 08:50, January 15, 2011 (UTC) [01:54]	<Toprawa>	* I'm glad you brought this up, because I was about to do the same. It doesn't seem to me that the article is even really being maintained by anyone anymore. This probably deserves some kind of deeper consideration as to what to do with this thing. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:26, January 15, 2011 (UTC) [01:55]	<Toprawa>	this guy basically rewrote the whole article [01:55]	<Toprawa>	for example, one of his edit summaries: [01:55]	<Toprawa>	# (cur) (prev) 07:02, 10 January 2011 Jensaarai (Talk | contribs | block) (26,076 bytes) (Cleaning it up; the Practitioners section is just a list, we don't need to overly elaborate on their fighting styles.) (undo) [01:55]	<Toprawa>	this is all stuff that should be run by the Inq review [01:56]	<CC7567>	If we probe it, at least one of us needs to go through it and double-check all of these additions [01:56]	<Toprawa>	another candidate for the Inq Review Redux [01:56]	<Toprawa>	we really need to set that up [01:56]	<GrandMoffTranner>	The user in question currently has a subpage devoted to rewriting that article, it seems. [01:56]	<GreenTentacle>	CC7567: Thanks for volunteering. :P [01:56]	<CC7567>	:P [01:57]	<Toprawa>	I vote probe based on the fact that the article is a completely different animal from what the Inq originally reviewed. [01:57]	<Toprawa>	Ideally, I'll have time to set up the Review page, and we can put it in there [01:57]	<Toprawa>	then we have an official formal way of dealing with this [01:57]	<GreenTentacle>	I can't argue with that logic. [01:57]	<GreenTentacle>	Probe. [01:57]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Probe. [01:58]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Or we can just revert it to a pre-rewrite version. :p [01:58]	<Toprawa>	Cav says probe [01:58]	<Fiolli>	Probe. [01:59]	<Toprawa>	This is Jugs' comment: "Form V: Shien / Djem So (semi-reluctantly; I'd rather just have someone more familiar with the article check the changes and revert them if need be, or give them the OK) " [01:59]	<Toprawa>	saying spare, that is [01:59]	<Toprawa>	Anyone else? [01:59]	<GreenTentacle>	Probing might get Ataru or someone who cares to check it. [01:59]	<GreenTentacle>	Personally, I couldn't care less about lightsaber forms. [01:59]	<CC7567>	I just say probe; I don't think anyone's going to do anything otherwise [02:00]	<Toprawa>	Form V is probed then, with all the aforementioned stipulations [02:00]	<Toprawa>	nothing else in the maintenance bin [02:00]	<Toprawa>	Moving on to discussion items. [02:01]	<Toprawa>	The Triage page. Do we really need it anymore? Does it really still serve any vital purpose? It was created as a sort of emergency measure to help the Inq better handle the nominations when the page total was at 60, but we've pretty much moved past that era with the since-revised FAN page voting procedure. It seems to me that many people practically ignore the page now as non-essential. A... [02:01]	<Toprawa>	...discussion to consider removing it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:52, January 8, 2011 (UTC) [02:01]	<Fiolli>	Kill it. [02:01]	<CC7567>	Kill with fire [02:01]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Yeah, I don't think the Triage page is necessary any more. [02:01]	<GreenTentacle>	I actually find the length bit useful. But since nobody updates it we might as well kill. [02:02]	<Toprawa>	I vote to kill the triage. It doesn't tell us anything really useful that we can't already glean from a single look at the FAN page. At this point, the only thing it tells us that the FAN doesn't is page size in KB. Does that really warrant its usage? Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 21:52, January 8, 2011 (UTC) [02:02]	<Toprawa>	# I guess we can do away with the triage for now. Things seem to be currently under wraps.—Tommy 9281 22:55, January 14, 2011 (UTC) [02:02]	<Toprawa>	# Kill the Triage. Grunny (talk) 08:35, January 15, 2011 (UTC) [02:02]	<Fiolli>	I never voted for it to begin with. [02:02]	<Toprawa>	# Kill: Triage - Cavalier One(Squadron channel) 14:02, January 15, 2011 (UTC) [02:02]	<Toprawa>	I vote kill as well. [02:02]	<Toprawa>	Triage page is killed with unanimous approval. [02:02]	<Toprawa>	One more thing. [02:03]	<Toprawa>	This comes somewhat from an outside source. [02:03]	<Toprawa>	The queue. [02:03]	<Toprawa>	It's obviously in dire straits. [02:03]	<Toprawa>	It dies a little bit more every single day we don't get a new FA. [02:03]	<GreenTentacle>	I was about to bring this up. [02:03]	<GreenTentacle>	I have charts! :P [02:03]	<Toprawa>	We have several options for prolonging it. [02:03]	<GreenTentacle>	REDACTED [02:03]	<Toprawa>	If indeed we do want to prolong. [02:03]	<Toprawa>	What about making it one FA every other day? [02:03]	<Toprawa>	it essentially doubles the length, then [02:03]	<GrandMoffTranner>	I like that idea. [02:04]	<Toprawa>	it's going to run out eventually [02:04]	<Toprawa>	I don't like changing it, but I don't think we have a choice right now. [02:04]	<GreenTentacle>	Since we started daily FAs we've averaged 5 new ones a week. [02:05]	<GreenTentacle>	But not for the last few months. [02:05]	<GreenTentacle>	The every other day option keeps the queue roughly steady at the current production rate. [02:05]	<GreenTentacle>	So that's what I was going to suggest anyway. [02:05]	<GreenTentacle>	We can just use a redirect every other day. [02:06]	<Toprawa>	Graestan requests to weigh in on this, if he may. [02:06]	<Toprawa>	Any objections? [02:07]	<GreenTentacle>	Nope. [02:07]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-inquisitorius +v Graestan by Toprawa [02:07]	<Graestan>	GT, it should be just as easy as before, right? [02:07]	<Fiolli>	I'm not opposed to going to every-other-day, but we probably would need to bring that to the community for vote. [02:07]	<GreenTentacle>	We didn't do every other day before, it was two a week. [02:07]	<Graestan>	what I am asking is if there would be any technical difficulties [02:07]	<GreenTentacle>	Which is a lot easier with the formulas. [02:07]	<Graestan>	but two a week, did you not have to go set it yourself? [02:08]	<GreenTentacle>	It changed automatically based on weekday and time. [02:08]	<Graestan>	the community shouldn't vote on that, imo... it is symptomatic [02:08]	<GreenTentacle>	Well, on the subject of a community vote... [02:08]	<Graestan>	they can vote to have a new one every hour if they like, but you, the Inq, aren't controlling so much as showing what can be done [02:08]	<Graestan>	if they want more they write more' [02:08]	<Fiolli>	I strongly feel that the community should vote on this. We've been flamed far too much for supposed unilateral actions. [02:08]	<GreenTentacle>	The vote for daily FAs allowed us to go back on it if it didn't work. [02:09]	<Graestan>	it is not really a unilateral action [02:09]	<Toprawa>	There's only one person who ever flamed us. [02:09]	<GreenTentacle>	It was clearly stipulated in the CT. [02:09]	<Graestan>	it is not a rule of any kind [02:09]	<Toprawa>	And he's been decaptitated :P [02:09]	<Graestan>	it would just open it up to real flaming on a CT [02:09]	<Toprawa>	Just change it. [02:09]	<Toprawa>	If anyone bitches, we can CT it. [02:09]	<CC7567>	Sure. [02:10]	<Fiolli>	One suggestion with the every-other-day thing... [02:10]	<Graestan>	but you yourself can do the coding, GT? [02:10]	<GreenTentacle>	Coding, no. [02:10]	<GreenTentacle>	It's too hard to do since the pattern changes each week. [02:10]	<Fiolli>	To accommodate the 365 days... we reserve April 1st for whatever gimmick people decide to pull. [02:11]	<GreenTentacle>	But if we leave the coding the same and insert redirects on the odd days, it will work. [02:11]	<Toprawa>	what do you mean by redirects? [02:11]	<Toprawa>	I'm not following exactly [02:11]	<Fiolli>	Redirect tomorrow's "queue page" to today's. [02:11]	<Toprawa>	gotcha [02:12]	<GreenTentacle>	Yeah, that. [02:12]	<Graestan>	so no manual switching is going on [02:12]	<Graestan>	that is good [02:12]	<Fiolli>	GT: What about reserving April 1st, so that we don't have to worry about someone going through and manually shifting each day by one or something. [02:12]	<Graestan>	that was my only concern regarding that [02:13]	<GreenTentacle>	We usually leave April 1 blank anyway. [02:13]	<Fiolli>	Ok. [02:13]	<GreenTentacle>	Guess it was forgotten this time. [02:14]	<Toprawa>	Are we beginning this every-other-day thing at the end of the current queue, then? May 19 or whatever. [02:14]	<Toprawa>	we could just bypass April 1 entirely [02:14]	<Toprawa>	for this year [02:15]	<Toprawa>	I'd personally prefer to keep what we have for as long as possible. [02:15]	<Graestan>	the issue there is if even at the current rate the queue won't run down still after using so many articles by May [02:15]	<Toprawa>	Come again? [02:15]	<GreenTentacle>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:CT_Archive/FA-a-Day_for_2009 [02:15]	<Graestan>	is there a new one being queued every other day? [02:16]	<GreenTentacle>	"The result of the debate was the FA queue will be changed to a daily system on January 1, 2009 if the FA production rate surpasses or equals an average of one successful nom per day." [02:16]	<GreenTentacle>	Which we never actually did. :P [02:17]	<Toprawa>	there isn't a new one being queued every other day [02:17]	<Graestan>	what I really was suggesting was that the current queue be modified [02:17]	<Graestan>	otherwise you will still run out [02:17]	<Toprawa>	but if we started at May 19, the end of the queue, we could just double the rate from there [02:17]	<Graestan>	just slightly less quickly [02:17]	<Fiolli>	We have a newer forum on that, I believe, because I seem to remember voting on that issue somewhere. [02:17]	<Toprawa>	I don't think we would run out at that date [02:17]	<Toprawa>	rate* [02:17]	<CC7567>	Sorry guys; I gotta go [02:17]	<CC7567>	See you later [02:18]	<GreenTentacle>	We have roughly until December at an average of three new ones per week. [02:18]	|<--	CC7567 has left irc.freenode.org (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203074432]) [02:18]	<GreenTentacle>	We could start this on April 2. [02:18]	<Toprawa>	I'm good with that [02:18]	<Fiolli>	Ok. [02:19]	<GreenTentacle>	And if not a CT, at least put an SH thread up to warn people. [02:19]	<Fiolli>	At least... [02:19]	<Toprawa>	You craft the SH thread :P [02:19]	<GreenTentacle>	I'll borrow some lines from Palpatine. :P [02:20]	<Toprawa>	Excellent. [02:20]	<GreenTentacle>	If anybody seriously objects we can discuss it. [02:20]	<Toprawa>	yes [02:20]	<GreenTentacle>	But it should be a no-brainer. [02:20]	<Toprawa>	the other option is to not do anything and watch it dry out :P [02:20]	<GreenTentacle>	Current system isn't working, and we have the power to go back to the old one already. [02:20]	<GreenTentacle>	This is just a compromise between the two. [02:21]	<Toprawa>	ok, issue settled [02:21]	<Toprawa>	Moving queue to one every other day beginning April 2 [02:21]	<Toprawa>	Does anyone else have anything else to discuss? [02:21]	<Fiolli>	Yes. [02:21]	<Fiolli>	I do. [02:21]	<Toprawa>	You have the floor. [02:21]	<Fiolli>	I've been thinking tonight about some things with the absences. [02:22]	<Fiolli>	Just as a thought, what about having a table or something on the Inqmoot page for Inqs to simply tally up their votes with sigs, or whatnot. [02:23]	<Fiolli>	That way we can say from the start of the meeting: Three probe, one keep from the absentees. [02:23]	<Fiolli>	Just an organizational thing that allows for this so we can simply have a location. [02:23]	<Toprawa>	for absentees, you mean? [02:23]	<Fiolli>	I've brought up something like this before, but I was curious what you guys think. [02:23]	<Fiolli>	Yes. [02:23]	<Fiolli>	Absentee voting area. [02:23]	<Toprawa>	I like that. [02:23]	<GreenTentacle>	Simple = good [02:23]	<Toprawa>	It might encourage people to leave notes more. [02:24]	<Fiolli>	At the very least, they can leave a sig under either "Probe" "Kill" or "Keep". [02:24]	<Fiolli>	We at least have /something/ to go on, then. [02:24]	<GrandMoffTranner>	We could always give it a try. [02:24]	<GrandMoffTranner>	See how it works. [02:24]	<Toprawa>	The issue is that someone will have to list every article on the page twicw. [02:24]	<Toprawa>	twice* [02:24]	<Fiolli>	That's not much of an issue. I have a thought on that, too. [02:24]	<Toprawa>	Under a new "Absentee voting" heading. [02:25]	<Toprawa>	Well, it's twice the work. [02:25]	<Toprawa>	We're lazy enough as it is [02:25]	<Fiolli>	We really don't put up the page until a week before anyway. [02:25]	<Graestan>	let the first absentee make it :P [02:25]	<Fiolli>	Whoever puts up the page, puts up the current stuff to begin with. [02:25]	<Toprawa>	it's more organization than I think you realize [02:25]	<Toprawa>	it's basically reproducing an entire FAN page worth of headers [02:26]	<Fiolli>	Not headers, a table. Four columns: Article | Keep | Probe | Kill [02:26]	<Fiolli>	Just a thought. [02:26]	<GreenTentacle>	We can try it and see how it goes. [02:26]	<Fiolli>	Do with it as you please. I'm just trying to think of ways to organize stuff a bit more. [02:27]	<Toprawa>	the table might make it a lot easier [02:27]	<Toprawa>	would you mind cooking one up for the next meeting? [02:27]	<Toprawa>	then we can sample this all [02:27]	<Fiolli>	Sure. [02:27]	<Toprawa>	Cool [02:27]	<Fiolli>	If it doesn't work, then we at least tried. [02:28]	<Toprawa>	All right, we can try that on next meeting page. [02:28]	<Toprawa>	Anything else? [02:29]	<GreenTentacle>	Nope. [02:29]	<Toprawa>	Just for the record, I'm going to make mention in the minutes of the need for the Inq to meet their responsibility of participating in meetings if they wish to maintain their position [02:29]	<Toprawa>	Under the assumption that everyone reviews minutes and is therefore aware of the situation [02:30]	<Toprawa>	Otherwise, the meeting is concluded. [02:30]	<Toprawa>	Thank you for coming and for leaving notes, those who did.