Talk:Luke Skywalker/Legends

Non canon - Encounter with Lord Starkiller
In the Ultimate Sith edition of the Force Unleashed, Luke confronted the Dark Lord Starkiller on the planet Hoth. Starkiller was pleased to meet the apprentice, announcing "At last we meet, son of Vader." The first encounter ended with a defeat for the young Jedi, who was overwhelmed by Lord Starkiller's lighting and sheer ferocity. Before fleeing, Luke pulled a panel away from the wall, allowing some native Wanpas to enter the room, and fled. The Dark Lord killed the Wampus, and chased after Skywalker into the main hanger, where the Millenium Falcon was docked. Another skirmish ensued, where Lord Starkiller threw Luke into a scaffold, disarming him.

Starkiller then told Luke "Now I will destroy you, as I destroyed your father." This enraged Luke, causing him to fall to the Dark Side. Newly invivrogated, Luke attacked Lord Starkiller, but despite being stronger, Luke was still not powerful enough to defeat the Dark Lord. As the battle wound to a close, Starkiller threw Luke into the path of a launching Snowspeeder, and prepared to kill him. As Starkiller was about to bring his blade down on the fallen Jedi, the Millenium Falcon began to leave. Starkiller grabbed the falcon with the Force, and said to Luke "Join me, only then will you be powerful enough to save your friends". Luke, fully engrossed into the Dark Side, blasted Starkiller with lightning, allowing the Falcon time to escape. Starkiller easily repelled this attack, and then referred to Luke as his "apprentice"

That is what I have to offer, and I placed it here as the article is locked for some reason. Toodles. 129.3.150.11 23:35, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

i find your lack of ortography disturbing --Monoloco35 03:43, January 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * i will remove Starkiller from the known master list: uncanon facts should only be mentioned after Behind the scenes.

Palpatine as Sith Master
Is this refering to the short time in ROTJ or a non-canon story, I am very confused. If it is ROTJ, Sidous was just trying to get Luke to turn to the Darkside. T-888 03:30, January 11, 2010 (UTC) I has not read that Comic Book, sorry for that. So, Luke did go to the Dark side? T-888 03:44, January 11, 2010 (UTC) Okay then, sorry was that a sarcastic remark Olioster, just wondering? T-888 04:06, January 11, 2010 (UTC) Okay Thank You. T-888 04:09, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * It is referring to the Emperor Reborn part of the Expanded Universe when Darth Sidious returned in the body of a clone, which happens in the Dark Empire comic series.  OLIOSTER  (talk) Imperial Emblem.svg 03:36, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * The article says he did.  OLIOSTER  (talk) Imperial Emblem.svg 04:02, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, simply stating the fact that the article says he did.  OLIOSTER  (talk) Imperial Emblem.svg 04:07, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

New picture.
Is anyone able to load pictures to this page? If so I was wondering if we could somehow add the image of Luke from the Wizards of the Coast book. "The Jedi Academy Training Manual." The cover art and image of Luke and Mara is pretty swell.
 * Is this what you wanted?--Dionne Jinn (Something to say?) 21:56, March 24, 2010 (UTC) MaraLukeTrainingManual.jpg


 * Sometimes these pictures confuse me. His right hand is sometimes covered with a glove. Sometimes it isn't. Is there any source to indicate if Luke kept having a glove on his right hand up to Fate of the Jedi period (his picture in one of the books has him with a glove) or if he got his artificial skin on his right hand fixed. Questorminator 10:35, June 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well in the Legacy of the Force series. Luke gets his artificial hand severed again by Lumiya, and had to get a new one so I'm sure he got some new artificial skin along with it. But as to whether he still wears the glove or not I'm not sure. I like to still think he does because everytime I imagine Luke I see the glove on his hand. the images of him with a glove then without a glove confuse me too. jedi_master425


 * I think after Lumiya he regularly wears the glove. Most pictures of post Legacy of the Force has me seeing him with a glove on his right hand (sometimes BOTH hands). The New Jedi Order Luke Skywalker action figure (the Evolutions:Jedi Legacy once) has Luke with a repaired prosthetic right hand so probably Luke did repair his hand post-ROTJ but wears a glove nevertheless. Unless Lucas says something about this, this will stay in the realm of speculation. Questorminator 04:10, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Personally, I think Luke kept using the glove. He had the time to have his artificial skin repaired in ROTJ but did not do it. Probably because his hand was a reminder of his failure in Empire Strikes Back. Questorminator 04:46, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

last name
if he was adopted by owen and beru lars from an extremely young age, then why does he keep the last name skywalker? wouldnt he be called luke lars? unless the starwars universe's way of adopting works differently to ours... but still... Tomtom3000 20:27, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * There's nothing to indicate that Luke was adopted by the Lars family. It's just as likely they just raised him as their nephew.  It happens in real life all the time.  leandar 20:29, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

Editing the "Powers and Abilities" section
Okay, so this is how it goes. I'm not very fond of this section as it looks now. Therefore, I've made an altered and expanded version which you can see below. I hope to make this section more coherent and flowing than it is now. BUT, since english isn't my native tongue, I thought I'd just put it here first for approval, and for members to expand and change for the better, for admittedly, even though this version is better than the one we have now, it can be better still.

Powers and abilities
"The Force is strong with him."

- Palpatine

Though he received little formal training, and the training he did receive took place well into his adulthood, Luke Skywalker became a most wise and powerful Jedi Master, even indirectly serving as the Chosen One by bringing Darth Vader to the light. Luke had the Force potential to become what his father was supposed to become&mdash;the Force potential of the Chosen One, a potential far greater even than Emperor Palpatines. By many considered to be the most powerful Jedi in history, Luke was a master of both Force and lightsaber-oriented combat.

Lightsaber prowess
Luke Skywalker, the most skilled lightsaber duelist of his time, was mostly self learned when it came to lightsaber combat. Luke Skywalker's use of his most primary form, Form V, is probably as much instinctive as trained. On Bespin, Luke revealed that he was an extraordinarily gifted duelist after only one brief session with Obi-Wan Kenobi and a short time of study with Yoda. After that fateful duel, Luke studied some lightsaber skills from Kenobi's journal and greatly advanced his abilities. Without a master, it was Luke's unparalleled aptitude, which contributed in the impossible advancement of his skills. Onboard the second Death Star, Luke mirrored Darth Vader's own Form V technique and responded with his own furious demonstration of it's raw power. Observing swordsmen, such as Palpatine, was astonished to see such instantaneous learning in a lightsaber duel. Finally, Luke was able to duel Vader on an even footing, and defeated the experienced Dark Lord.

However, Luke's particular form of lightsaber combat may in the end be something entirely new, with traces of Form III, Form IV and Form V mixed together with his own techniques. It is doubtful that Kenobi and Yoda had time to actually teach him the finer points of the combat Forms, but just like most other things about being a Jedi Knight, Luke probably had to reinvent it for himself. Eventully, Luke had to figure out whole new fighting styles to replace the ones lost during the Great Jedi Purge. Many years later, the Jensaarai helped Luke Skywalker and his New Jedi Order by passing on valuable knowledge of the lightsaber forms of the Old Jedi Order. Luke also managed to master a technique known as the strong style, a form of lightsaber combat used by the New Jedi Order. It should be noted that Luke advanced more quickly than any other known Jedi before him in lightsaber combat, being as powerful as Vader after receiving only about one year of training.

Luke's abilities with a lightsaber and the Force allowed him to fight his way through countless Yuuzhan Vong warriors in the Sacred Precinct. After defeating numerous Yuuzhan Vong warriors in the Citadel Luke defeated more than five Slayers; while Kyp Durron, one of the most powerful Jedi of his time, could not best even the Slayers who were exposed to Alpha Red. Afterward, Luke slew Supreme Overlord Shimrra Jamaane, who was stated to be the best warrior of the Yuuzhan Vong, despite just being injured by the poison of the Scepter of Power.

Luke's arguably most considerable feat of lightsaber combat was to defeat the reborn Emperor Palpatine in a lightsaber duel, slicing off his hand with cho mai. It should be noted that Palpatine was one of the best swordsmen in lightsaber history, and even Yoda, Luke's own master, was unable to defeat him. Leia, who was watching the fight, could hardly see the movements of Luke and the Emperor, but she sensed waves of power generating from them&mdash;dark from the Emperor, and light from Luke. With Leia assisting his brother through the Force, Luke managed to throw down the Dark Lord, eventually leading to his ultimate demise. Palpatine, also known by his Sith alias Darth Sidious, and Darth Vader weren't the only Dark Lords of the Sith Luke Skywalker managed to defeat throughout his years. He also managed to defeat Darth Vader's apprentices and successors, Lumiya and Flint, aswell as his own nephew Jacen Solo, who by that time had taken the name Darth Caedus.

Luke learned to master many forms and techniques of lightsaber combat, including Shii-Cho, Soresu, Ataru, Djem So and the strong and medium styles of lightsaber combat. In addition, he was also skilled in the rare technique of tràkata. Luke also showed, on several occasions, to be a most skilled Jar'Kai user, managing to defeat both Supreme Overlord Shimrra and the Dark Lady of the Sith Lumiya, using dual lightsabers.

Force powers
Luke was a master of the Force and, as with his lightsaber skills, his skills were mostly self learned and came to him instinctively. As when, during the Battle of Yavin, Luke managed to destroy the first Death Star by letting the Force tell him when to fire his proton torpedoes, while traveling at very high speeds, and not knowing the distance to the port, and having no previous knowledge of proton torpedoes and their abilities. One should note that Luke only had little training with the Force at this time.

Without any guidance except a handbook left by Obi-Wan Kenobi, Luke Skywalker successfully built his first lightsaber, merely three years after he was first introduced to the Force, and undergoing formal training for less than a year. Only a short time after being given a lightsaber by Obi-Wan, Luke was able to instinctively block several blaster bolts fired in rapid succession by a remote, despite his lack of prolonged formal training.

Luke was an immensely powerful telekinetic, able to move heavy objects through the Force with ease. Instances showing his telekinetic skills include; when Luke safely landed himself, Isolder, and Isolder's fighter from a free fall drop from orbit with the Force. During the Battle of Dathomir, Luke also managed to fly the Millennium Falcon single-handedly using only the Force, manipulating its controls and operating it with a skill that not even a full crew could manage. Luke was able to knock down a crippled AT-AT by pressing against it with the Force; he also absorbed the initial cannon blasts from the AT-AT, before deflecting the rest with his lightsaber. He also showed great telekinetic powers when, during the Black Fleet Crisis, Luke managed to use the Force to rebuild Darth Vader's old fortress on Coruscant and then crush it to rubble, shattering the building piece by piece and throwing it into the oceans of Coruscant. Luke could also throw his lightsaber great lenghts towards his enemies and even learned to fly using only the Force.

During the Battle of Dantooine of the Yuuzhan Vong War, Luke showed great control of the Force by trickering a vehicle's dovin basals into colliding its own black hole against itself by using the Force to hold the void against the pull of the dovin basals; then reversing the direction of his own pull, adding it to the pull of the dovin basals, so that the void would collide against the spine of the vehicle.

Luke was also a particularly skilled Force healer, as demonstrated when he, in the battle between the Singing Mountain Clan and the Nightsisters, became almost fatally wounded by a Force attack by Gethzerion and a deep fall, but managed to regenerate in the span of mere hours. Just on the trip back to Hapes after the duel with Lumiya and Alema Rar, Luke used a Jedi healing trance to heal almost all of the damage he suffered in the duel.

In addition to being a powerful telekinetic, Skywalker was also a anturally talented telepath. During the Death Seed Plague, Luke used the Force to communicate with the sentient crystals Tsils. It is important to remember that the more dissimilar the type of mind, the more difficult it is to communicate with via the Force. Toward the end of the Swarm War, Luke used the Force to call all the Jedi across the entire galaxy to Ossus to make the announcement of him taking on the role as Grand Master of the Jedi Order, and to issue his views about the role of the Order to his Jedi. During the Eye of Palpatine incident, Luke subconsciously used his Force powers to overcome a particularly vicious form of brainwashing.

Luke was also an expert in Jedi mind tricks. Apart from the more simple version of the power, Luke, while searching for the kidnapped Solo children, used the Force to create an illusion over his face in order to disguise his identity. After the Black Fleet Crisis, with newfound knowledge from the White Current, Luke removed the Teljkon Vagabond from view using the Force; however he admitted that he did not know how long it would last. After the Black Fleet Crisis, Luke taught the combined White Current/the Force illusion skill to his more experienced students, which would help shield the entire moon Yavin 4 from intruders during the Yuuzhan Vong War. During the early days of the Dark Nest Crisis, Luke used the Force to generate a lifelike copy of the Jade Shadow to fool the attacking dartships. This usage of the Force was so extreme, Luke burnt out and his face was temporarily sunken and shriveled like Palpatine's. A year later Luke applied the same trick on the DR919a, by then Luke already mastered the technique and would no longer burn out. Right before the Battle of Fondor, Luke made Caedus "see" a fleet of ships, causing him to panic in front of his navy. Luke directed it right at Caedus in general, to show him what he can do and to scare Caedus into talking with Luke. During the Battle of Kashyyyk, Luke shut his presence down after being fired upon by Jaina to make it seem like he died. Later while Ben was in the Embrace of Pain, Jacen gave Ben back his ability to sense the Force temporarily and Ben felt the life force of his father and realized Luke was shutting himself down to everyone except Ben, something no other Jedi has been able to do.

Despite being a servant of the light side of the Force, Luke would not hesitate to use dark side powers when he felt necessary. Force choke is one such power, which Luke Skywalker used both used against Gamorrean guards in the process of gaining entrance to Jabba's Palace as well as on one of the Nightsisters. Another example would be a variant of Force lightning called Electric Judgment, which he used in the chamber of Shimrra Jamaane. This technique had been described to look like "green sparks," which instantly killed the Slayer.

Luke is also one of the few individuals known the have achieved "Oneness" with the Force. During the Battle of Yuuzhan'tar Luke was described as a maelstrom of Force energy, against which there was no shelter. So calm and focused was he that his actions were not interrupted by any thought. Luke merged with the Force to such a degree that the Jedi Master did not seem to be there, physically or as an individual personality. Luke's control over his lightsaber blade was so great that he was said to might as well have been wielding ten, or twenty lightsabers against the Vong. The Solo twins were astounded seeing their uncle in such a state. While battling UnuThul, Luke also was able to resist the combined Force power of the Colony and triumph. When UnuThul attempted to Force Push the Grand Master, Luke rooted himself in the heart of the Force so strongly that it was said that he had become the very essence of the immovable object, and that not even the black hole at the center of the galaxy could move him.

During his travels across the galaxy learnedmany Force powers many would consider exotic or unnatural. Luke destroyed a group of hot-wired battle droids just by waving his hand, subtly displacing their master servos and causing the self-destruction of the group of droids. This Force power was first manifested by Jedi Master Arca Jeth during the Great Droid Revolution. Even then, with proper instruction, it was a difficult power to master. However, this power apparently came naturally to Luke. During the time when he was re-creating the Jedi Order and was searching for potential candidates, he walked on lava while still throbbing with the Force after defeating a Fireworm living in the lava just moments before. Luke's performance impressed Gantoris so much that he decided to become Luke's apprentice. In 43.5 ABY, after spending time with the Aing-Tii Luke was taught the Fold space ability which allowed him to teleport objects.

During the Kueller crisis, Luke prepared himself for death in such a way that he would become a Force ghost. Upon death, Luke was able to retain his consciousness in the Netherworld of the Force, and could henceforth manifest himself in spirit form.

Other abilities
Luke applied the very opposite of Dun Möch on board the second Death Star by infusing love into Darth Vader's heart through spoken words. The young Jedi was successful&mdash;Anakin Skywalker ultimately redeemed himself and brought balance to the Force.

Like his father Luke was an expert pilot, being the person who was responsible for destroying the first Death Star and managing to evade Darth Vader himself (albeit with help from Han Solo). He also landed a crashing Imperial Star Destroyer, with almost no loss of life, on Coruscant by allowing the Force to guide him at the Liberator's controls, mirroring a similar achievement by his father toward the end of the Clone Wars.

Swedish guy 18:26, May 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree with that, save the Other Abilities section. I just got done reading The Life and Legend of Obi-Wan Kenobi, and Old Ben says Luke is "as good as his father at fixing things" while watching Luke repair Threepio in his hut. This isn't something that gets spotlighted often if at all, but I think Ben would know what he's talking about, being Anakin's closest friend for over a decade and all. Thoughts on adding this? I just took TLaLoOWK back to the library, so I can't provide a page reference- hoping someone who owns the book can find the exact quote to provide the reference for the article. Dewback rancher 23:06, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

There is no question that Luke Skywalker is powerful. But how powerful? I think, with all of the emphasis placed by George Lucas on Anakin after the Prequel Trilogy, he has forgotten to expound on the powers of Luke Skywalker beyond the films except perhaps a few statements such us him rebuilding the Jedi Order. There is a wealth of information in the EU but a lot of information in that universe can be retconned (which is the case when the prequel trilogy came up, lots of retcons were made to newly made films to the already established EU). Luke Skywalker as the son of Anakin, is immensely poweful with the Force no small thanks to his father's mystic origins. That much is evident in the films. But in the EU, his powers are somewhat inconsistent: extremely powerful in one series, somewhat pathetic in the next. He was supposed to have the same Force potential of Anakin Skywalker according to George Lucas (therefore making that fact G-Canon) but books like in the New Jedi Order series Rebel Dream, it was even faintly "suggested" that Jedi Master Kyp Durron had more pure power than him. I think to determine the extent of Luke Skywalker's power, we must first base on what we see of him during the OT. He was half-trained, but he was powerful enough to be on par with most Jedi if he can defeat Darth Vader, the man who was the hammer in the Emperor's anvil called The Great Jedi Purge. Questorminator 05:37, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

New main image!
Hey all. There's been an attempt (maybe two?) recently to change the main image of this article. While I don't agree that this is the best choice, I do agree that the current main image, on account of the huge missing chunk of Luke's head, isn't the best choice either. It works in that it's a live-action shot depicting Luke as a Jedi Knight, with a wise and knowing look on his face. So I have some other choices for ya!

Option 2) isn't the best quality, but it looks fine when shrunk to infobox size. And we could find a better quality version of it with a DVD screencapture.

Option 3) is cool too. The stormtrooper in the background might be a bit distracting.
 * Update! Option 3 brightened. Menkooroo 06:44, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Let's put it to a vote! Menkooroo 05:45, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Option 1

 * 1) Darth Revanon 05:54, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) I'm usually very anti-extreme close-up and anti-stare-into-the-camera-until-I'm-uncomfortabe, but I'm not a major fan of either of the other options. If there was another option, I might me more inclined to change it, but not with the current choices.  Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 06:01, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) Other two has serious issues with lightning, 2. has too bright light and too hard shadow, 3. is simply too dark. Also neither of those has Luke staring at _you_ (--Tm T 06:12, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Option 3

 * 1) Menkooroo 05:44, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) I'll throw my support behind this one, but I do hope that at some point in the future we can get a big enough DVD capture to be able to crop out stormie. But ultimately I'm kind of laissez-blah about any of the options. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 07:28, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Discussion?
I think a headshot of this picture would be best, but i'm no good at cropping. can someone else please do t, cause i think it would look really good. --Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 06:03, June 22, 2010 (UTC) I like the third one much better, he just looks silly in the first one. If anyone can find a brighter version of number three, I'll vote for it. Xicer9 ( Combadge) 06:24, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... it's young, naive blaster-wielding Luke, rather than confident Jedi Knight with a cool stare Luke. I think the latter is a better representation. Whaddya think? Menkooroo 06:07, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Or this one perhaps? A headshot of this would look really good, and he's a Jedi in it. A tiny bit fuzzy though. --Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 06:26, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll try to brighten it and crop a lil' bit more of the stormie out. Will report back. Menkooroo 06:27, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Done! Much brighter now. Compare the change for yourself. I left the stormie in so that it can be infobox width. Menkooroo 06:44, June 22, 2010 (UTC)