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TFU images
Please don't continue uploading images from The Fource Unleashed. There is no place to put the images. Articles for the characters are not long enough to accommodate several images yet. Thanks -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 19:41, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

I hadn't put in the picture of the Apprentice pulling down the Star Destroyer, if you thought that since you only removed one and said 'There is no room for either of those images'. I agree, though, that there were too many pictures in the Secret Apprentice article. Drewton http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/c/c0/SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg/25px-SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg 03:24, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

KotOR 31 image
Try cropping the image above the shoulder. Then see if anyone likes it on Zayne's talk page.--69.131.125.190 07:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I cropped it, and a bigger image was released today so the cropped image is bigger than it would have been before. Drewton  http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/c/c0/SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg/25px-SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg 01:46, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Edit warring on Secret Apprentice
I'd like to point out Three-revert rule, a policy which your next edit to Secret Apprentice may be in breach of. I hope you can work this out on the talk page, rather than risk being blocked. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 01:38, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I said I wouldn't revert it again in the talk page if it was reverted back, but thanks for the reminder :) ! Drewton  http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/c/c0/SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg/25px-SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg 01:42, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Can we agree on neither of us editing the SA article in respect to what we discussed on the talk page until we get input from other users? The Secret Apprentice  [[Image:Secretapprenticefull.jpg|20px]] ( Personal Comm ) 20:08, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, that's what I was hoping for too.  Drewton  http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/c/c0/SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg/25px-SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg 20:28, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Star Forge Duel images
Hey, Drewton. Nice job uploading the images on Darth Malak's talk page. How did you take those pictures? Are you using the X-box or PC version of the game? Can you post instructions on my talk page on hoe exactly to take pictures like that? Thanks.--Jedi Kasra 16:10, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * But are you using a digital camera? Could I use the X-box version of the game for screenshots?--Jedi Kasra 21:19, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Merging the Duel on the Star Forge article
Hey, Drewton, I'll help you merge the article to the Battle of Rakata Prime article if you want. I don't know how to get rid of sadi article once the we transfer the info the the BORP article, but I can get Ataru to do it for us. Just let me know when you want to merge it.--Jedi Kasra 16:46, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for offering, but I'm not sure whether it should be merged yet. Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 17:26, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Just so you know how, if you do decide to merge. Once the information is transferred to the Battle of Rakata Prime article, on the Duel on the Star Forge article you want to have only the following text:  #REDIRECT Battle of Rakata Prime  and save the page. That will then automatically redirect to the correct article. Hope that helps. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 00:28, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

WookieeProject Knights of the Old Republic
Would you be interested in joining this WookieeProject?--Jedi Kasra 17:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I just signed up :) . Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 17:35, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Darth Malak
Hey, good job on the article! I added more sources and fixed some stuff here and there, but good job!--Jedi Kasra 00:12, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Is there any specific information you think should be added, or things that should be fixed/expanded?  Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 00:15, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No, not really. Unfortunately, the "Powers and abilities" section can't yet be expanded since he hasn't done anything really in the KotOR comics, and he hasn;t appeared in anything else as a Sith Lord. We'll have to wait 'til the Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide and the miniature set come out.--Jedi Kasra 00:18, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Please try to find the sentences in the article that begin with "And".--Jedi Kasra 02:55, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I did a search and there aren't any besides in the quotes. Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 17:32, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, good. I believe we are done with the article,we just need to ask Goodwood to review it, and if he gives his stamp of approval, we should ask him to support it's entry in the WP:GAN. We should probably ask the objectors to overview it as well, such as Chack Jadson, and AdmiralAckbar.--Jedi Kasra 23:15, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll ask Goodwood if he reviewed the article.--Jedi Kasra 00:50, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, Drewton. I just wanted you to know that I asked the objectors to the nomination to delete the nomination. Thanks for supporting the nomination, and I hope you can still work woth me on it, because I will nominate it again in the near future.--Jedi Kasra 07:03, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that was the best idea for it. I have some of the 'Adasca's plot' comics, so I'll rewrite some of that section.  Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 12:20, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright, I honestly think the image on the left would be better than the image on the right:

Speaking of which, do you own the Shadows and Light comic? Because it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to upload the two images of Malak in there. Also, you, if you can, might wanna delete the two Alek images from Darth Malak's image category, since they belong in Alek's image category. Just a thought.--Jedi Kasra 17:46, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

The image on the right isn't perfect, but I think it works better where it is because it's one of the only two close-ups. The one on the left looks more like the one of him leading the Sith army, just in a different pose. That's just my opinion though; you can change it if you want.

I agree. Or I could take a screenshot of Malak torturing Bastila.

I don't own Shadows and Light, but I think Redemption does so I can ask him. I didn't know there were pictures of Malak in it before. Drewton  18:00, 12 May 2008 (UTC) "Well done, Revan. I was certain the defenses of the Star Forge would destroy you, but I see there is more of your old self in you than I expected. You are stronger than I thought; stronger then you ever were duing your reign as the Dark Lord. I did not think that was possible."
 * I added another section under the "The Search for the Star Forge" section called "Sith Apprentice". Take a look at it.--Jedi Kasra 00:48, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * He was a Sith apprentice much earlier than that though, basically when 'The search for the Star Forge' starts. Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 02:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The Essential Guide to the Force doesn't say that they became Sith immediately, though. The caption for the picture of Revan and Malak even says that they were Dark Jedi. It makes no mention of Malachor V save a brief mention by Palpatine, and in the 'Second Sith War section, it even says that it was the Star Maps that led them to Korriban, and that they drew knowledge from the Sith tombs there and declared themselves the new Dark Lords of the Sith. Of, course, it also says that the Jedi Civil War began in 3,961 BBY. But there are a few typos in there. No book is perfect. I'm just sticking to what the book said, and it doesn;t say anything about them being Sith during the Mandalorian Wars.--Jedi Kasra 19:53, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That's a very good point, I hadn't thought about that before...however, Malak's jaw removal shouldn't be in the Sith Apprentice section because in the picture of them declaring themselves Dark Lords Malak already has his cybernetic jaw. And maybe an introduction like 'Malak and Revan were Sith Lords in all but name, until finally they declared themselves Dark Lords of the Sith in ? BBY.'  It also says 'The Sith Lords recovered an ancient Rakatan device'.  Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 14:48, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Then go ahead and add it, and make the changes. Why don't you come on the IRC?--Jedi Kasra 19:28, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Excellent, excellent. You might wanna add these to Revan's article, if not added already.--Jedi Kasra 19:38, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I actually haven't done anything on Revan's article yet, but I hopefully will have time tonight. Hopefully we can make Malak a GA (if not an FA; he has more potentional than Revan) and Revan an FA again!  For IRC, I'm not really as comfortable doing it because of getting a webclient thing.  Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 20:17, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, OK. I think we should wait a few more months before we nominate it again. You might want to add the info to the Jedi Civil War article, if it doesn;t have that info on it, as well. I added the fact that Revan fell to the dark side in 3,961 BBY to the J.C.W. article a few months ago.--Jedi Kasra 20:37, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, I didn't mean anything like only a few weeks. It still needs some time.  Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 20:50, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I added some info in the Powers and abilities section of the article. Do you think you could upload a picture of Malak Force-choking the two Jedi, you know, the part where all the droids attack Revan right after you fight Bastila? Which brings me to another question. Think it's worth it to create an article on the duel between Revan and Bastila, call that the "First Duel on the Star Forge", and rename the current article "Duel on the Star Forge, "Second duel on the Star Forge"? How about the duel on Lehon between Revan, Juhani, and Jolee against Bastila?--Jedi Kasra 16:24, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Very good! Yes, I'll upload it today, and a screenshot of the Star Forge robes.  The first Star Forge duel is short but I think it's necessary; there's a page for the Duel in Fellowship Plaza which was very minor.  The duel on Lehon was very short so I don't know if it's worth making it, unless if it includes fighting the other Dark Jedi in the Temple.  Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 18:29, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * So, will you create the article on the Revan-Shan on the Star Forge duel?--Jedi Kasra 20:11, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, good job with the image. Couldn't get one where you could see him choking both Jedi, huh? I thought that there was a possibility to get one, but I am currently waiting to get the downloads on X-box before I advance any further than Taris, so, it's been a while. Still, great job, man!--Jedi Kasra 20:24, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I did take a screenshot of that, but he's not facing the Jedi; he's in front of them, so it looks odd.  Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 20:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, good job with the new pics, especially with the one in which Alek and Jarael are dueling.--Jedi Kasra 02:59, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Danke! I'm rewriting most of the Alek parts, and it will be much longer than it is right now.  Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 12:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * What do you think of this quote for the "The Star Forge" article?--Jedi Kasra 18:07, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

- Darth Malak to Revan


 * Does the "Alek of Quelli" really need to be added to the opening paragraph? I mean, it is not necessarily a term of identification. Just fo rexapmle, an Master could say "Kasra of Deralia, but does that mean that's an official title? I think that Dooku was also called "Dooku of Serreno".--Jedi Kasra 00:50, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, it doesn't really need to be there. I'll take it out.  Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 00:51, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Man, nearly 3,000 words. Darth Malak's sure come a long way.--Jedi Kasra 01:25, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Excessive images
Stop uploading images that aren't immediately put to use. You've been warned about this before, but I'm telling you now that this is a blockable offense, and you will regret it if you continue. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 21:13, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I was uploading them so that they would be available to people when they needed them. I've been spending a long time doing this.  Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 21:16, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Image galleries on Darth Malak's talk page
Hey, Drewton. Maybe you should delete those galleries, since most of the pics are gone. Also, can you upload a new image for the Star Forge Robes article? Thanks.--Jedi Kasra 14:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello
Hey, Drewton, just saw you on here and wanted to say hello. (I'm from SWFanon.) -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)   talk 14:37, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello! It's good to see you on here.  Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 12:18, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

JMAS
The summary given by the blocking administrator, Lord Hydronium, was "Uploaded fanart image with false source, second time." Basically, JMAS uploaded an image from a fanart site and claimed in the information uploaded along with it that it was from Star Wars Chronicles: The Prequels. There is some reason to believe that this may have been a simple mistake on his part, but since it was his second time committing this particular offense, it was decided the block would stand. jSarek 08:18, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: First or last names
Hey, Drewton. Generally, when first introducing a character in an article, you should use their full name. "Rick Smith was a Human male&hellip;" yada-yada-yada. Then, you should only refer to Rick as "Smith" throughout the rest of the article, "Smith then got himself beat up by a small kid&hellip;". I hope that helps :) Greyman  @wikia ( Talk ) 01:41, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Image
Could you get an image of Revan and Bastila dueling? (with him wearing the same robe as in the Malak-Revan duel) It would be appropriate to put on both Revan and Bastila's articles. Plus, you think you could get a picture of Bastila and the Ebon Hawk crew receving the Cross of Glory? This image could go on all the party members' articles.--Jedi Kasra 18:24, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup, though I'm not sure if Revan having the Darth robes for that duel would be considered canon...but I don't think he'd switch from Star Forge robes to Darth robes between duels ;) . Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 18:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * True, but if that's the case, you might wanna upload a pic of Malak dueling Revan using the Star Forge robes instead of Darth Revan's robes. If only the robes in the first game were like the ones in the second game... The best ption is the Star Forge robes, of course, if you do upload images with Revan using the Star Forge robes, we'll have to put a notice on the image stating that the character's image is customizable, and should not be taken as the canon image of Revan, like the notice on the "Female Revan and Carth image", next to the relationships section of Revan's article.--Jedi Kasra 18:57, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * If only the back of Revan's robes are shown, though, it doesn't necessarily have to be the Darth robes, just black robes which are as canon as in the vision. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 22:38, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

KotOR #29
Oh, man, The new info you added is really heavy! Things are starting to look dark for the characters now, be sure to add the info to Lucien Draay and Revan's articles!--Jedi Kasra 03:21, 29 May 2008 (UTC) Drewton  ( Drewton's Holocron ) 02:14, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * And the Revanchist (faction) article, too! If you don't mind, I'd like your help in sourcing that article. That's one of my favorite articles, and with Atarumaster88's help, earlier this year, merged the Jedi Crusader article that existed into what is now the article in question.--Jedi Kasra 03:28, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, and KOTOR's finally out of Vector :) . It looks even more like Zayne's going to be the Exile/Nihilus now, and have you read the speculation about Nihilus being the Exile?  Zayne's starting to go on the offensive against the Covenant, and Lucien is working on eliminating the Revanchists. I'm really looking forward to Alek and Revan's turn; in the Q&A at the back, JJM said 'the comics will definitely speak to the matter of Revan and Malak - perhaps sooner than you may think!'.  Atris also has a cameo in #29, the new one.  For sourcing the Revanchist article, I don't have all the comics which the Revanchists are in, but I'll see what I can do.  Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 15:49, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Nihilus I have no problem with Zayne being, but the Exile is canonically female. In Revan and Malak's case, I honestly think that Revan is his real name. If there were no Darths that used their real names then I would have a weak argument, but since Darth Zannah used her real name, what's to say that Revan didn't? Must Zannah be the only Sith to use his/her real name? I'd like to read your thoughts on Revan's name. I'll begin sourcing the article shortly, since I have all the comics up to #29. And as far as the Exile, the only thing I've read that is even near that is the thing on Darth Nihilus' article which says that Chris Avellone originally intended for Nihilus to be the Exile's "other half".--Jedi Kasra 20:15, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * They could easily just retcon it. This is the speculation for the Exile being Nihilus.  I agree, and Darth Revan was the first to make the Darth name, so he probably didn't think of changing his name as well.  He probably thought of it as one would when they added, for example, 'Master' to the beginning of their name.  Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 20:55, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but there's the Darth Sunshine comment in KotOR #3, which might indicate that Revan was not the first "Darth". And personally, I don't see how they could retcon Zayne into being the Exile, Zayne doesn't look like he's joing the Mandie Wars, and the New Essential Guide to Droids and Leland Chee established her as female. Zayne does have sisters, but they aren't Force-sensitive, so. It would be a little too much for Zayne to hava a gender change, and since Mical knows the Exile as a female, and joins her party...I'll check out the link you provided above.--Jedi Kasra 21:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL, Darth Sunshine? Seriously?  I'm not really expecting Zayne to be the Exile, but it would be an interesting twist if he was and if Kreia was Krynda Draay, leader of the Covenant.  Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 21:16, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I think that Krynda is Kreia, and that Lucien is Sion. Read the Darth article, it says that since Zayne made the comment to Jarael, it's possible that the Order knew of Sith Lords called "Darth". I doubt that Zayne popped the name out of nowhere.--Jedi Kasra 21:25, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Lucien would be good as Sion because then Kreia would be Sion's mother, but I think Haazen looks exactly like him, at least in the infobox picture. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 21:27, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Could you take a look at the info I added to Revan's article under the "The Revanchist" section?--Jedi Kasra 23:51, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Very good! I also added some information about him not necessarily being changed by the Jedi Council, as Kreia said.  By the way, this isn't my screenshot, but this is an example of what it might be like if the Star Forge robes were used for Revan instead in the Revan vs. Malak pictures.  You can see his hair, so I don't think it would be considered canon.
 * Well, we could just put a note on it that says that the appearance of Revan is customizable. Just a suggestion.--Jedi Kasra 17:13, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Vrook, Zez-Kai Ell, and Kavar
Can you add the recent info from the KotOR comics on these guys' articles? I already sourced most of both Kavar's and Ell's, they just need the info from KotOR #9.--Jedi Kasra 20:53, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Malak on SWFanon
Looks pretty cool, man. The images are awesome, especially the one with Malak and Sidious. You might want to make it a sub-page, though, until it's complete. If you want, you can go to my user page, and look at my upcoming fan fic. Tell me what you think!--Jedi Kasra 17:05, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Interesting...
I was reading the Heritage of the Sith article in Star Wars Insider , and here's something interesting: "In 3,956 BBY another pair of Jedi–Revan and Malak–took up the fallen banner of the dark side. Revan proclaimed himself the new Dark Lord of the Sith with Malak becoming his apprentice. Taking the names of Darth Revan and Darth Malak..."

- Heritage of the Sith

Obviously, the year was a typo, but the names raise a lot of questions. While I firmly believe that Revan is his real name, and will do so unless future sources confirm that it is not, which I highly doubt they will, maybe the original plan was to have Malak always as Malak, and that the "Alek Squinquargesimus" name was a very new idea, heck, this issue was the July/August 2006 issue, and the series had only been out for about six months! The text certainly suggests that it was. What do you think?--Jedi Kasra 07:23, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey...
Don't let the possibility of the Duel on the Star Forge article getting deleted get you down. You're a good editor, couldn't have asked for better help on the Darth Malak article. Wookieepedia needs more users like you.--Jedi Kasra 21:48, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you :) . You're also a great contributor to Wookieepedia, especially with KOTOR articles.  At least the Duel on the Star Forge will be merged, not deleted.  I actually expected it to be merged much sooner than it is.  I've started my summer break so I'll have much more time to edit.  Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 01:46, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. By the way, my dad pulled the Internet out at my place bacsue we can't afford it, but I live close by the library. (I'm actually here right now) So I won't contribute as much, but I'll see if I can come by every other day, save Mondays and weekends, cause I go to church on Saturday and the library's closed on Sundays and Mondays. When I'm there I'll contribute as much as I can. Just wanted to let you know.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 19:01, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, I did add some info to Revan from the Heritage of the Sith article on the opening paragraph of the "Jedi Civil War" section. Please check it.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 19:03, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

The Jedi Exile Novel
I would be more than happy for you to list some of your ideas. let me just tell you what im working with. The jedi exile is a girl, and she is a heroine, but she is also a sith. she will teach her companions to use the fore, and mical will latter on reject the dark side, and become the founder of the new jedi order. also, the exile's name is leoni sher, and she is a telosia, which is wjy she chooses to side with the ithorians. tell me what you think about that, and give me ideas accordingly. also i plan to imply the whole haazen being sion situation. any help would be appreiciated. ive been worried i wouldn't have any support on the whole matter since redemption told me to go beet my head in with a telephone.HK-47 rebuilt 03:57, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree that the light side has more depth, but i personally belive that if the exile was light side, then Revan would have to still be dark side. Dont worry, i plan to have the story go in depth as much as possible. Like for instance, the jedi master with the long, hard to remember name. I plan to let him live then kill the others, so that the exile recives the information about why she lost connection to the force from him. And about the whole haazen/ sion, lucien/ nihilus, kreia/??? speculation... well i planned to suggest it and not come out and say it, but if you think its a bad idea, then your probably right.HK-47 rebuilt 17:54, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

While the idea of Revan still being on the dark side is intreging, he is undoutedly on the light side, seeing how both bastila and carth vouch for him in the end. Also, the exile plans to get her informatoin from the one surviving council member, then kill him. also, i have studied up on the whole sith triumvirate connection, and there is nothing so far that says who they were or were not.HK-47 rebuilt 20:16, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

If you look at the rest of the dialoge kreia makes about revan, then you get the feeling revan was never really evil, and that he made the ultimate sacrifice, falling to the dark side, to save the republic. so what would revan's true self be? Jedi or Sith?HK-47 rebuilt 01:34, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Recommendation

 * Hey Drewton, would you like to join WookieeProject Legacy Era? Jedi Kasra asked me to ask you to join the project, and it could really use your help. Thanks, and cheers. Darthchristian 17:58, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it. Just contribute anyway you can: I'm not expecting everybody to become fanatically devoted to the project. Thanks. Darthchristian 02:51, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello
Hey, I clicked the recent change of Devan2 (since I saw you edit it and I was curious) and for the history this IP: 81.97.208.80. Comitted vandalism. Did you report? - CloneSaber (Droid's Hangout) 21:57, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

New TFU vid screens
Hey I liked the screenshots u got of the new TFU vid. How did u get them so big? are u a paid IGN member or something? Regardless, can you get the shot of the under-construction Executor? It would look real good on the Executor page, and it might have room somewhere else. Thanks. The Secret Apprentice  ( Personal Comm ) 02:44, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I did an HD capture from here.  I can try taking an Executor screenshot, but there aren't really any good shots of the Executor without Starkiller or Vader in most of the picture space.  There's a good picture of it under construction from the comic, however.  Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 02:52, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks. Here it is:

The Secret Apprentice  ( Personal Comm ) 03:33, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:Darth Malak GA
I'd like to wait 'til the beginning of July. Also, this is related to the article, was something wrong with the title "The Final Confrontation"? I know the name of that particluar section has been replaced with th title "Duel with Revan", but that was the name of the final quest in the game, so, in my opinion, it's catchy.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 18:59, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * On second thought, let's wait a while longer, pending the -reorganzation that Goodwood will do to the KotOR project, see the project page and the forum Cracking the whip...--Jedi Kasra (talk) 19:16, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright. I agree, The Final Confrontation sounds better. I'll change it back. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 21:13, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Revan
Hey, I've noticed that you're working on Revan on a subpage of yours, so if you're doing it that way, I would suggest not putting an inuse tag on the actual article since you'll be working on your subpage. Cheers, Greyman ( Talk ) 01:21, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Quote
Hey Drewton, hope you dont mind but I put a Quote on my page from your page: "Years ago, I discovered the meaning of life but forgot to write it down. I have made extraordinary four-course meals using only a mouli and a toaster oven. I breed prize-winning clams. I have won bullfights in San Juan, cliff-diving competitions in Sri Lanka, and spelling bees at the Kremlin. I have played Hamlet, I have performed open heart surgery, and I have spoken with Elvis. But I have not yet gone to college." if you wish me to remove it then just give the word, Quickly though cause I won't be editing after today for at lest a month, cheers RC-1136  Copy 15:54, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That's alright, thanks for putting it up! Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 19:26, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much, RC-1136  Copy 21:05, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

fine
you win drewton Darth mike rotch 19:21, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:KOTOR Reorg Meeting
 irc.freenode.net #WP:KOTOR irc://irc.freenode.net/WP:KOTOR For those who wish to continue on the WP:KOTOR WookieeProject, there will be an informational and organizational meeting via IRC on this channel on Saturday, 19 July 2008 at 0:00 UTC (that's 8p.m. Eastern Time in North America). If you do not have ChatZilla or another chat program capable of accessing the channel, it is recommended that you get one ( is one option). If you are unable to attend the meeting for whatever reason, please leave a response on my talk page. Anyone who does not attend and does not leave their regrets will be dismissed from the project&mdash;this is for the health of the project, with nothing personal intended. Thank you and have a nice day.-- Goodwood  ( Alliance Intelligence ) 23:05, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * If July 19 0:00 UTC is 8 p.m. Eastern Time on Friday July 18, I'll probably be able to attend. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 23:08, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Mustafar
Where the hell did you get that Vader dueled Starkiller on Mustafar? I watched that railer twenty times and not once did it mention or depict Mustafar. I didnt edit it but I will if you cant provide reasonable evidence to support your claim. No that is the Under Construction Death Star. On the back of the Darth Vader TFU packaging http://hasbro.com/default.cfm?page=ps_results&product_id=21546 it says "A fierce battle with the newfound Rebel Alliance aboard the Death Star... ...the Dark Lord of the Sith is the closest he’s come to death since Obi-Wan Kenobi defeated him on the burning shores of Mustafar." The Secret Apprentice  ( Personal Comm ) 00:55, 10 July 2008 (UTC) Sorry I forgot to put in that in the video you see part of Vader's flesh on his flank. Would you not agree? Check out Does this not look familiar. This is the aforementioned figure with the pieces removed. The Secret Apprentice  ( Personal Comm ) 01:02, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It's at 1:42. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 23:04, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, that seems to be right then, or at least for the duel at the end of the trailer. The previous duel looks to be on Mustafar. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 00:57, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but the first duel shown still seems to be separate from the other. While the LEGO Rogue Shadow package is not evidance itself, it is supporting evidence; it shows Mustafar and includes Starkiller and Vader. The Clone Wars Jedi Starfighter LEGO set had Tatooine on the package, before we knew that Tatooine would be in the movie/series, and it appears to have been right. Drewton  ( Drewton's Holocron ) 01:06, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps. But on the Lego for Kenobi's Eta Fighter it also shows Mustafar. And guess what? Kenobi first went to Mustafar as a stowaway in Padme's ship. Not in his Eta. The Secret Apprentice  ( Personal Comm ) 01:20, 10 July 2008 (UTC) http://cache.lego.com/images/shop/prod/7661-0000-xx-23-1.jpg

Right, as I said, the LEGO set was not evidence itself. The first duel in the trailer just looks undeniably like Mustafar and not the Death Star. Drewton  ( Drewton's Holocron ) 01:28, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Help
JMAS has been removing our quotes that we have been adding to Starkiller's page. I have set up a vote for the main quote at the top of the page and request your opinion as you are one of the main contributors to TFU. Thank you. The Secret Apprentice  ( Personal Comm ) 17:46, 10 July 2008 (UTC) Its appreciated. The Secret Apprentice  ( Personal Comm ) 17:48, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I voted for the new trailer quote. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 17:47, 10 July 2008 (UTC)