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Re: Congrats
Thanks very much, Tope. :)  CC7567  (talk) 20:26, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Re:Asteroid victim officer
It doesn't look like the scene - for one, there are too many people present, whereas there are only three (I think) in the film. Most of them look like regular crewmembers (as they lack rank plates). But my guy could very well be the guy who Vader cuts off almost entirely. Still pretty interesting, though. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Grand Moff Tranner (Comlink) 10:57, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Do you remember
Since you were the one who closed the TC on Category:Non-force sensitive Lightsaber Users, I was hoping you could help. Here is your review history for that day: [|April 28]. Can you tell me if all of the edits from Anja Gallandro to Thall Joben were related to that Category (since edits to categories aren't directly shown, I just wanna be sure). Some of the articles don't even mention lightsabers, so I didn't want to mistakenly add someone unrelated to my new list (User:IthinkIwannaLeia/Non-Force sensitive Lightsaber Users. Thanks for your help T&R.  IthinkIwannaLeia  WaddaUthink?  17:20, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The link you gave me doesn't work, but regardless, you can check my editing history just as easily as I can. All you need to do is check whether I removed that category or not. I don't know if everything that was in that category was accurate. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:50, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: TC
My apologies. - Esjs (Talk) 19:38, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Even though this is too late, is the new voting option OK with you?- Esjs (Talk) 19:40, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I don't mind if someone creates a new voting option if they think that is the best option, but I do believe it's best to speak with the thread author first. No worries. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:42, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: New Otoh Gunga
Hi. I just added the only source we have here -which is the same as the only appearance, by the way. I know this isn't very much/enough, but this is the only one we have, I fear.

LelalMekha 22:03, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Re:Redlinks
No need to explain, I fully understand it (the redlink tag). Was sort of confused on the official guidelines of GAN and in the future if a article is nominated I shouldn't tag it? Thanks for filling me in on all of this. I am not new to the wiki formatting, Im a sysop on Wikipedia - just a little new to Wookieepedia :P Im trying to understand a lot more of Wookieepedia's official policies so I can make the best edits as possible. Thanks again for the help :)  JangFett  Talk 20:09, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Inq Meeting XXV
An Inquisitorius meeting has been scheduled for 23:00 UTC on the 24th of May. Your presence is requested. Apologies for the late notice. Thefourdotelipsis 00:11, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

INQCON
The new INQCON system is now in effect. For details on this new tool, please review the linked page. It is requested that you check any current featured article nominations that you have fully read and are currently objecting to, and change the respective INQCON number on the nomination if you are intending to ultimately support the article once your objections have been resolved. Also, please remember to change the Triage page when altering INQCON numbers. Any queries about the process can be made on the afore-linked INQCON page. Thanks, Thefourdotelipsis 00:49, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey dude
Hey Toprawa, it's Marauder 09, I dont know if your still pissed off at me for that voting mix up on the Scoundrel's Luck, but it's been taking me quite a while to rack up the courage to want to say this to you about that voting on deletion article, I guess you might have taught me one thing about voting on deletions, and that's to look at the date it was last responded to, but just to say I have been editing around here sometimes as an anonymous user, only adding appearances, adding small bits I'm of info to articles, and spelling corrections. I dont know if you can unblock users after being sentenced to a permanent ban but even though I'm guessing this request will just be a waste of time, and I know after someone gets banned, they'll probably wanna oppose it and hope there ban will be ended, and well, thats what I'm doing right now, so this is probably another, o great, another beggar, to you, but I'm willing to make a little deal with you and everyone else, if you decide to accept my apology and well end my ban, then I'll edit similarly to how I've been lately, just maybe a little more often, but doing everything I can to stay out of trouble, if you decide not to then I'll just keep doing what I've been doing lately, just staying out of trouble, adding appearances, sources, spelling corrections, etc.

I've been contributing a lot to the swgames wiki, mostly after my ban, and they do have just some administrators and myself with a few other rare contributors, so I'm guessing that they probably would need myself more than most other wikis, but all wiki's need users of course, but if their spammers or vandals or whatever, than they'd best be contributors no more, which from your point is probably as I was to the wiki, but I've probably said enough, so farewell for now, and please reply on my talk page (not my account one) on what you'll do with my account or whatever.

Cheers; 24.131.169.104 02:42, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, for my own sake I'll reread the rules of this wiki before I start editing again, and I'll do everything I can to stay away from places that might get in some hot water. And should I leave my user page alone, or could I delete that template and start my user page again?

Marauder 09 14:23, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Locked Page
My user page is locked, could you unlock it? Marauder 09 18:01, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:43, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Stele Chronicles

 * TSC has tech specs for the A-wing which lists two Dymek HM-6 Concussion Missile Launchers but that's the only mention. Personally I'd take that to be two HM-6 launchers for concussion missiles rather than two launchers for HM-6 concussion missiles if you see what I mean. That's the way CUSWE has taken it too. Unless there's actually a source that says those were anything other than normal missiles it might be an idea to move the article and make it about the launcher instead. Green Tentacle (Talk) 19:57, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Correct. Green Tentacle (Talk) 18:01, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi
I see you used a rollback on an edit of mine that was intended to be in good faith on Showdown on Coruscant.

Is there any particular reason you removed my edit? Although I understand I didn't source it (I'm not sure how that works on wookieepedia on particular), I thought it was a valid parallel and hence put it in the article. 90.203.82.9 12:09, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

kessel

 * I'll keep the page as the Third Battle of Kessel, but I'm gonna split the page into two, one being the rescue of Wedge Antilles, one being Third Battle of Kessel, since the two battles detailed in the article are different events. DjMack 18:54, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Mara and Insider 91

 * Hey Tope, I saw you added the Insider magazine to Mara's source list. Whenever you get a chance, would it be possible to get the information from that, if there is any unique info? Thanks. Atarumaster88  Jedi_Order.svg ( Talk page ) 01:23, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Excellent! Much thanks. :-D Atarumaster88  Jedi_Order.svg ( Talk page ) 01:53, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

massassi temple

 * I don't know actually, that was a long time ago that I named that article, so we're better off removing the title. DjMack 01:37, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Anj Dahl
According to spoilers posted here they are correct http://boards.theforce.net/literature/b10003/29757493/p8/?200

Also how do I edit this box to show this information about Anj Dahl

 PointGiven  ( I call it aggressive negotiations ) 02:40, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, got it. For future reference, how do I edit that Rogue Leader box?  PointGiven  ( I call it aggressive negotiations ) 02:50, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Just found out the comic has officially been released, so I'll do the edits. Thanks for directing me the right way for the Template box.  PointGiven  ( I call it aggressive negotiations ) 04:32, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Images
Hey Tope. Here is the link to the scale. The image from A Day in the Life is a bit tricky so I am going to work on it a bit more. I want to line the seam up as best as possible. I should have it up tomorrow. Let me know if there is anything else. Cylka  -talk- 05:40, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry it took so long for me to upload the image from A Day in the Life. I did the best that I could with lining up the two halves and cloning out the seam. Cylka  -talk- 00:32, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

User page
Tope, if you get this, could you protect my user page from anons? It seems that it's constantly getting vandalized. Thanks.  CC7567  (talk) 16:17, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Nevermind; Atarumaster got it. :)  CC7567  (talk) 16:37, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Starships
Hey, you said in the most recent CT that the parentheses titles of starships should be specified by kind. Since I'm not the biggest expert of starships I wanted to make sure that I won't move the articles incorrectly. Should Guarlara (ship) be moved to Guarlara (Venator-class Star Destroyer) and Sibwarra (ship) to Sibwarra (Shree-class battle cruiser) or should they be at another title? Thanks for your help in this case.  Pranay Sobusk  ~  Talk  21:04, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks, let me know if I make any mistakes during the moving.  Pranay Sobusk  ~  Talk  08:22, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you, for your nomination offer, and your words of praise, and your assistance and guidance over the past few years. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 19:02, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll get it in the morning. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 23:32, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Twilight
No problem; I felt I needed to actually do something useful around here. :P  CC7567  (talk) 05:48, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Re:Green Wing
Thanks - sorry for bugging you about that yesterday. Anyway, should I list all three editions of the book as sources, or just the third? Grand Moff Tranner (Comlink) 10:57, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Avenger
There are two Avengers, an Imperial II-class and a Pellaeon-class.--Gonzalo84 23:12, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, thank you. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:20, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Triage
A new Triage meeting has been scheduled for next Sunday, June 14, at 23:00 UTC. We hope you will be able to attend, as there are a fair amount of nominations that need sorting.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 14:00, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

HO Length
Then take out ALL discussion on the Home One's length, because that's what the whole freakin sections of both have turned into. Don't just remove ONE comment. Ambaryerno 23:02, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

MGLT Talk Edit
In response to your edit, according to this statement: ''Editors may make straightforward mathematical calculations or logical deductions based on fully attributed data that neither change the significance of the data nor require additional assumptions beyond what is in the source. It should be possible for any reader without specialist knowledge to understand the deductions.'' the estimate I posted of the speed of 100MGLT within the X-wing games is a perfectly valid statement for that discussion as a response to the previous user's. It is basic, simple math carried out entirely based on measurements taken using the mechanics of the X-wing game itself. It is not variable, is repeatable, and thus verifiable so does not fall under Original Research. It is also relevant to the discussion itself.Ambaryerno 05:27, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You're mistaken if you think I'm going to debate with you about what is and what is not Original Research, but that's not the point to begin with. Unless your talk page discussion relates to an actual edit you or someone else is about to make to a given article, your discussion is off-topic. And that's the point. We're here to foster a community of contributing editors. If you want to talk about Star Wars and all its amazingly intricate technicalities, you're welcome to come into the IRC channel or join any one of the hundreds of Star Wars message boards that exist on the World Wide Web. Unfortunately, Wookieepedia is not a message board for your theories and speculation. I would suggest you learn this and stop grating with me about it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:32, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well right now it's like you're singling me out, because there are multiple comments in that exact same talk page that didn't correspond to a recent edit of the article or even an impending change. My comment was not theory or speculation, but hard numbers in response to the comment by 88.115.122.123 which ALSO had nothing to do with any recent or pending edit to the formal article. If you're going to enforce to such a degree then fine, but enforce it equally. Otherwise it's just arbitrary.Ambaryerno 13:09, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You should worry about yourself, not what other people are posting, and leaving the administrative decisions of this site to the administrators. If I'm removing your comments and not removing others, you can be assured that there's a reason for doing so, and that should be good enough for you. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:47, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well when I see comments like the "My god that ship is ugly!" on the E-wing talk page get left alone for SIX MONTHS while I get edited five minutes later while attempting to make a constructive contribution (including references and repeatable calcs) in response to a previous comment, that's NOT good enough for me. It comes off as a double-standard so I AM going to protest it.Ambaryerno 22:04, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You've unwittingly hit the proverbial nail on the head. There is a difference between posts that are six months old and are subsequently archived, and new off-topic nonsense that you contribute. You don't hold any special right to add new off-topic posts just because someone else posted something before your time. And you're more than welcome to protest this, and you're also more than welcome to be blocked from editing if you carry this on any further. You've been warned. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:08, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * JAVOHL!Ambaryerno 22:21, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Inq meeting
Hello. An Inq meeting is scheduled for Saturday, June 20, at 2300 UTC. Please try to attend, because we will be talking about the current state of the FAN page, what with all the summer noms. Apologies for the late notice.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 00:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Executor!
Yeeeeehhaaaaa! Congrats Tope; a work of true scholarship. -- —Harrar  ( Cut the comm chatter ) 23:15, 15 June 2009 (UTC) > JangFett  Talk 20:41, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow. Glad I'm not an Inq. I am legitimately frightened by the length of that article.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 23:17, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. :) I'm still waiting for Wookieepedia to send me my paycheck. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:25, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Excellent work Toprawa :) Wasn't too sure about the image placing&mdash;I knew that it wasn't a rule but a guideline to follow. Good thing you mentioned about the little "picky" note in my objection, otherwise others might find little problems (such as the images) with the article. :P <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * No worries. Nitpicky objections are good, but only if they're of real substance, where maybe I really messed up on something, for example, if you understand my meaning. Thanks for looking at it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:44, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Warning/Graestan Comment
I apologize for the comment I made to Graestan, I understand it was rude. It will not happen again. Thank you, -- Skypopper (HoloNet Transmission) 16:45, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Toprawa and Ralltiir 16:47, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Sign
sorry about the Emperor Shorty 22:00, 16 June 2009 (UTC) thing. I'm new, and I never did that before.

SOTE Comics
Xicer9 ( Combadge) 05:15, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I decided to upload the pictures on a third-party site since they wouldn't be of any use here. Anyway:
 * ttp://img190.imageshack.us/img190/9492/swsote006.jpg Kenner Special, I think this one is basically a reprint of a few pages from the actual SOTE comic.
 * ttp://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1267/sotegaloob07.jpg Micro Machines Mini-Comic This one doesn't actually show the exterior the Executor but Vader is still on the ship.
 * ttp://img190.imageshack.us/img190/2198/soteertl10.jpg AMT/ERTL Mini-Comic Battle of the Bajic Shipyards
 * Yeah, it looks like the part where Vader is dueling his Asp droids, which is in chapter 7 of the SOTE novel. But then there's that dialogue with the Emperor and Xizor where Palpatine is telling Vader to work with Xizor, which happens before the droids scene in the novel. Both comics are basically concurrent so order doesn't matter. Xicer9 [[Image:atgar.svg|20px]]( Combadge) 05:36, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Here's the image. Xicer9 [[Image:atgar.svg|20px]]( Combadge) 06:02, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Whoops, sorry about that. I uploaded a new version with both panels. Xicer9 [[Image:atgar.svg|20px]]( Combadge) 02:06, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Right, that's what I uploaded but for some reason Wookieepedia is just extending my original image. But if you go to Battle of the Bajic Shipyards page, the image looks fine. I'm guessing its a cache issue or something that should fix itself soon. Xicer9 [[Image:atgar.svg|20px]]( Combadge) 02:11, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

2.1 Page created
in galactic battle fronts it appeared as a planet in the system and admiralackbar deleted the other source p.s. i don'remember the name of the planet --Agent chant 22:32, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That's not what I asked you, but I suppose it's a moot point now. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:33, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Photo Comics
I accept I don't own any of them myself, but Dark Horse website clearly calls of them Photo Comics, not PhotoComics. Are you sure your move was correct?  Mauser  Comlink 10:12, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I own them myself. The book calls itself a "PhotoComic." Toprawa and Ralltiir 16:11, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Whatever then. The reason I moved in the first them was to unificate the titles. Some were Photo Comics and some were PhotoComics. I don't actually care which one it will be as long as it's used for all of them.  Mauser  Comlink 16:14, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, no worries. Toprawa and Ralltiir 16:15, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Talk:ARC trooper armor
I was wondering how come you deleted the talk page I created for ARC trooper armor.--Darth Malice the Destroyer 21:16, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It was probably off topic. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:50, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Skypopper - Block
Good Morning Toprawa and Ralltiir, This is Skypopper and I am having to resort to contacting you logged out because you disabled my email access in the block I would like to talk to you about today. If you do not recall, this is about the block you gave me on 00:19, June 18, 2009. The reason stated for the block is Vandalism and/or general disruption (WP:VP): Admitted association with sockpuppet/vandals in IRC. The block expires in one year, and the Block ID# is #69165. I would like to know what I said/ how I "admitted association with sockpuppet/vandals" in IRC. Yes, I was logged in to IRC that day and you even blocked me for violating the 3 revert rule for 1 day. No, I do not have a sockpuppet account and I do not associate with vandals on this wiki. I totally think that you either got the wrong man, or there was some mistake, and if not, I want to appeal the block. Please contact me at my Wookiepedia talk page, and I will respond to you here. Thank You,  Skypopper (Talk)
 * I'd have been more inclined to believe you if you hadn't demonstrated yourself by taunting me in IRC. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:12, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

RE: Merazane Gold
Yep, it does spell Merazane Gold on the comic. But given the numerous typos of that issue, I wouldn't be surprised if it was indeed meant to be Merenzane Gold. Redirect? --ToRsO bOy 04:38, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks for the heads up.--ToRsO bOy 04:50, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

nonsense
why did you delete Catagory:Invertebreate i made it with sources from The Essential Guide To Alien Species Like Space Slug P.120 and Whaladon P.171 --Agent chant 17:14, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Did you even read the talk page message I first left on your page? Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:22, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I read it right after i wrote it. The Swamp Slug is a Gastropod it says on page 171 in The Essential Guide To Alien Species --Agent chant 17:56, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for teaching me to sign my name. Taxtro Grave 03:12, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Request
Hey Tope, could you place the objections that are from my Battle of Orto Plutonia FAN to a separate Wookiee page? Here is what I mean: 1  JangFett  Talk 20:37, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Merchant
Hey, Tope. I would like to talk to you about your GAN objection for the Unidentified Naboo merchant. Frankly, I do not own the Game Guide, and it appears that no one else here has it. However, after some googling, I've found this guide, which appears to be the shortened version of the guide proper. The guy's mentioned there, so I guess it is safe to assume that he is mentioned in the book itself. If you're okay with that, I'll add the guide to the "sources". If you are not, then I'll keep trying to check the guide somehow, but there is a big chance that I won't be able to. In the latter case, you may remove my nom once the reserved period for unaddressed objections passes.  QuiGonJinn (Talk) 16:14, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Revert
Hey, Toprawa. Sorry about my earlier revert of Fleebog without a message here. I was in a hurry and probably should have waited so I could explain properly. Basically, we at WookieeProject Aliens have been doing a lot of GA-size aliens lately. The problem with these is that they end up not having enough information to fill out the whole standard alien layout template. To compensate, we often merge "History" and "___ in the galaxy" into one section. I suppose it would be possible to get away with just calling it "History," but I prefer to indicate that we have, in fact, merged two sections. Hope this explains my earlier reversion! ~ SavageBob 12:49, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I see that you're right based on a straight reading of the LG. I still think we should retain some leeway to rename sections when warranted, though, especially with these shorter alien articles, but I grant that discussion may be warranted. I've posted a request for some input form the Aliens members at Forum:Layout of short articles. We may decide to scrap the renamed sections, or we may go ahead with a CT. Thanks for pointing all this out! ~ SavageBob 00:48, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Triage
A new Triage meeting has been scheduled for Sunday, July 19, at 0:00 UTC. Please try to attend. Thank you.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 15:52, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Triage
A new Triage meeting has been scheduled for Sunday, July 19, at 0:00 UTC. Please try to attend. Thank you.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 15:52, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

General Veers
Is there any reason why you deleted the thing I put about General Veers? And is there any better way I can put? Ghostkaiba297 16:23, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

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stop being meean to small black children ): (72.94.184.84 16:01, 10 July 2009 (UTC)) when i was a little girl i liked to jump rope with daddy
 * Excuse me? Toprawa and Ralltiir 16:04, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * --72.94.184.84 16:10, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[Link title]$Italic text$you heard me you racist!!!!!!!! '''

Derp
AS you did stuff on the Executor some sources say that it was 12.8 km like the essential guides, are we saying that they are wrong, because your stuff says that it is which seems strange to me..... Check sources
 * It's a secret. Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:57, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Someone is using your picture
Just thought you might like to know... http://www.last.fm/user/intransit92 is using your picture of you. I guess you should be flattered :P --  batTUrd  - 09:31, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Category
I'm creating a page named "bell", it's a disambiguation for the names of several people. I'm not so sure which category to place it in, so could you help me with this? \.:*§:_JadenKorr13_:§*:./ 20:28, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Placing the disambig template on the page automatically categorizes the article. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:23, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Inq meeting
Greetings. An Inq meeting has been scheduled for Saturday, August 1 at 23:00 UTC. Please see here for details. Hope to see you there.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 12:01, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Tarkin pics
Three of your requests are done, with the new files here and here. I have no idea why Cull's scan of the Imperial circle-jerk is greener. Mine is the color it is in the book. I'm still deciding what to do about the 2-page spread. Also, image server caching is working about as well as Wikia usually works, so the replaced main image is intermittent. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 22:37, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Pending Executor objection
I wouldn't like to disturb you, but among the list of objections I made to the Executor FAN, there is still one unaddressed, referring to Venka. I initially thought you had simply left it for later for some reason but, after several weeks, I now think you might have overlooked it. This is why I thought I could call your attention about it.

As you might have noticed, I'm not a cloak-and-dagger zealot defending my oppositions. If you simply give me some reason about that point and I deem it within reason, then I'll be glad to strike the objection.

Always a pleasure,--Skippy Farlstendoiro 06:32, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Do you let me to create this article about Helrae Bulsur. Darth Vukure Darth Vukure 12:20, 21 July 2009 (UTC) 3:20 pm

Hawk changes
Yeah, I've been having a difficult connection today, so my responses have been slow, as well. I made the changes without noticing the banner at the top because I went to the article from my watchlist. When I noticed it was nominated, I went to the GAN page and that is when my changes were responded to. I didn't intend to step on toes. I would have left the suggestions on the GAN page if I had noticed it first. Gethralkin 23:30, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Executor
Hey Toprawa, I apologize for not getting back to you sooner. I've been traveling for the past week so I've had very limited internet access. Anyway, the Executor is given a very brief mention in Picard's entry in the article, and it's only mentioned in comparison to the Enterprise. Here's the page in case you need it: http://i29.tinypic.com/90soz9.jpg Xicer9 ( Combadge) 04:23, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Zayne Carrick
Hi, I just saw your post about more work needed to be done on the Zayne Carrick article. I'm usually the guy who adds new information to the Bio, P&A, P&T and BtS. If you can tell me what else needs to be done, I can get right on it.  PointGiven  ( But...it was so artistically done... ) 18:21, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Query about images
Hey, Toprawa. JMAS directed me to you. I asked him a question regarding http://www.rpgamer.com/games/starwars/kotor/art/kotor012.jpg this image from http://www.rpgamer.com/games/starwars/kotor/kotorart.html this site. The image seems legit, and I think it would make for a good addition to Karath's article, which i'm working on. Any thoughts?--Jedi Kasra (talk) 16:28, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * For a little more background. I directed him to ask an admin because the image is official, you can see that by the official LA logo on the image. However the site where the image is obtained from is not an official, so far as I can see. Or would it be as simple as putting the source as originally from KOTOR, but now found at the current gaming site? -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 04:15, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * FYI, I directed Kasra to Culator while talking to him in IRC regarding this, since I don't really think I'm the best person to be consulting about the legitimacy of third-party web sites, and he's kind of the official image person of WP:KOTOR to boot. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:31, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Question about usernames
Hey Top! Glad to see you're still active in Wookieepedia! I know I haven't been very active lately, but I think I'd like to contribute a bit more. However, for reasons related to my work and other various reasons, I was hoping not to use my "colinmcev" username. I was hoping to change it to "Hunter Kahn", which is the name I use on Wikipedia, and it lends a bit more anonyimity to me rather than "colinmcev", which is almost my entire full name. :D Do you know if there is a way to change a username? If so, how do you do it? I suppose I could just start a new account, but I'd rather not do that if I can avoid it because I'd like to preserve my contributions and whatnot. Let me know! Colinmcev 04:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Imperial Army
Are you sure that the new name is an alternate one? The exact quote from the guide is: "Sometimes incorrectly refered to as "Imperial Army", the Imperial military ground forces include...". We're cleatly told that the "Imperial Army" designation, while used both IU and OOU, is technically incorrect. This case is basically the same as the recent DS-1 Orbital Battle Station.  Mauser  Comlink 21:38, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Regardless, "Imperial Army" is, hands down, the most commonly used variation throughout SW canon, dating as far back as the early West End Games days (yes, I've looked into this). Does RECG actually specify "Imperial Ground Forces" as the literal title of the organization? Because the lower-case "Imperial military ground forces" seems far from an official name to me. If the book does specify something as the literal title, then I concede my point. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:42, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, it is indeed spelled in lowercase, but both the heading on page 120 and the text under the heading refer to it as the ground forces, specifically stating that "Imperial Army" is an incorrect term, as quoted above. Also, may I remind that the term Death Star I is aslo used far more commonly that DS-1 Orbital Battle Station. ;)  Mauser  Comlink 21:59, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I can do without your smug winking smileys, thanks, but I don't consider this to be the same case as the Death Star, whereas "DS-1 Orbital Battle Station" is clearly intended to be an "official" name, no official name is provided for the Imperial Army, as far as I can see. The lowercase "Imperial military ground forces" does not equate to the literal "Imperial Ground Forces" title as you interpret it. Unfortunately, I do not have the book by my side at this moment. Are you able to provide quick scans of the pages you reference for me to take a look at? Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:09, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * ttp://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2360/recgpage120.jpg Here it is (remove the sticks to fix the link - I'm unable to post a direct one). Now you can decide what to do with it, so I can move on.  Mauser  Comlink 22:18, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for scanning it. But I'm still not seeing any real "official" name, to be quite honest with you. Aside from the section header, which is capitalized by default, the section never refers to the organization as the "Imperial Ground Forces," like it clearly refers to the Republic's "Grand Army." Moving our article to "Imperial Ground Forces," with that exact capitalization, just seems inaccurate to me. If anything, it should be under "Imperial ground forces," which I don't think is the best choice. I suggest keeping the article at "Imperial Army" in the absence of any title that is more "official" and simply specify within the article that "Imperial Army" is a technically incorrect name. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:28, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay. Done.  Mauser  Comlink 22:52, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Energizer Bunny
Why have you been removing comments? 21:40, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Both the comments you removed (including mine) were related to the article! They were posted to say that it should be called non-canon!  21:51, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It was obviously about changes to the article. To put a tag on it saying it is non-canon! And it is!  21:58, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Gha Nachkt
You've got the last outstanding objection to Gha Nachkt, which the nominator replied to on July 14. Could you review it when you get a chance? --Eyrezer 11:26, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

???
o i know what you meen my little brother must have hit another user page while i was in the bathrrom. im sorry if something like that happens again i'll be more than sure to beat him into a coma! SORRY!:(

Fourm
I see you deleated my Q but did not give a civil reason? i am asking a question about the story frankly this wiki should treat all articles with the same respect that inculdes Jacen Solo's listen i did not mean to insult any one i was just trying to get a well rounded answer. Thank you for your time please respond on my talk page and once again thanks for hearing me out.--Sunray1 21:58, 12 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Frist of all i asked you to be civil and seconed i did not spam. And i asked if he is redemmend I Did not say he was i asked if he was so please calm down and lets talk this out--Sunray1 22:05, 12 August 2009 (UTC)


 * How do you start a vote for changing the naming policy? Thank you and good day--Sunray1 22:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Userpage
I will remove it from my userpage and try to be civil in the furture--Sunray1 22:25, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Total Payback!
Now look, Toprawa and Ralltiir, I said I was sorry. And besides, you can't throw me off, can you? only the owner can do that. DUDE IS THAT A PIC OF YOU ON UR USER PAGE?!? No effence!
 * Yes, I can throw you off this wiki. And you're getting close. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:33, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * If I may butt in, Toprawa and Ralltiir is an Administrator, and he has the authority to block. Please keep in mind WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA. Also, please remember to sign your signature in talk pages. ~  JangFett  Talk 22:37, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * sorry. but my little brother edits on my user and it really sucks. Lets bury the hatchet, man. We all like STAR WARS and we both wanna keep editing WookieePedia! I've been getting a lot of shit from users latly and let me tell you, it sucks! But I'm sorry read the title over and over again!

Define Vandalism
I think we should continue this conversation off of Sunray1's page. I followed the link you gave me to the official wiki definition of vandalism and I don't think fixing grammar is a deliberate attemt to make things worse. I'm sorry for coming off badly before and can guarantee that I won't vandalise. As for my freind's bad mouthing, I can understand the personal insult thing. Thank you for informing me of my mistakes. I will be very careful from now on. --Wren T&#39;Marred 17:18, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Someone's personal user page is like someone's personal property on this wiki. You don't reserve the right to go around editing other people's user pages as you see fit. If someone has a grammar mistake or spelling typo on their user page, that's their concern, and none of yours. If you two have some kind of understanding that you're going to edit each other's user pages when you feel the need to, then that's fine. But just assuming that someone is going to be ok with a change you make to their page is not. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:23, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

My Recent Edits
A local bookstore got The Essential Atlas yesterday, and I bought it (they usually get new books before the release date). Noticing that several items were in there that were not yet placed on the Wook, I decided to add them. Noticing your comments on the Jerjerrod‎ page, I went back to the pages I had already edited and restored them to the versions that had been up before I edited them. I will wait until Tuesday to update them properly. Sorry for any misunderstandings or problems I may have caused. TIEPilot051999 01:04, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

IT'S MEEE!
It's me, KashyyykPartyWookiee!. Tell me what I need to edit, because everything seems to be covered here.

Your outstanding FA objections
Just kidding! :P Anyway: Hello. Inq meeting 28 has been scheduled. It will be held Sunday, September 6th at 0:00 UTC. Cheers.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 15:27, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Your outstanding GA objections
Sadly, I'm not kidding. Sorry, but I've tried to contact you on the IRC with no luck :( You have the last outstanding objection to Gor, an objection which was addressed almost two weeks ago. Please check this when you have the opportunity. Thanks. Darth Trayus   ( Trayus Academy ) 23:51, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Atlas info on the Tarkin
I was hoping I'd catch you in IRC now, but I'll leave this here. The Essential Atlas has some new info on the Tarkin, and since I'm not sure if you have it, I thought I'd let you know what it says: "The Emperor had already ordered the construction of a second Death Star, building on the technological advances of the first, and was manufacturing a pair of mammoth warships armed with superlasers&mdash;the Eclipse class&mdash;at Kuat and Byss. To test the ship-mounted superlaser and divert the Alliance from the hunt for the second Death Star, the Emperor ordered Lemelisk to develop a prototype of the Eclipse class into an operational weapon. The prototype, renamed the Tarkin, was destroyed by an Alliance strike team at Patriim; its lone offensive operation was to shatter the burned-out planet Aeten II." (page 171) Grand Moff Tranner (Comlink) 14:40, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

About the Trandoshan
I noticed that you have reverted my edit on the article Unidentified Trandoshan bounty hunter. Could you please explain the reason of this?--Kreivi Wolter 19:22, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Is it now? For what I saw here, the picture isn't "completely irrelevant".--Kreivi Wolter 11:58, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

???
What would prompt you to leave me a message saying that? I have been merging articles for awhile, and I am aware of what I am doing. You can trust in me that all info (history, sources, pix, etc.) has been moved to its new home. Thank you, but I know what I'm doing. Gmalek 19:46, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: Year templates
Thanks, I was planning on adding references until I got sidetracked reading another article. Wookieepedia: its own nemesis... — Milo Fett [Comlink] 04:25, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks for explaining. — Milo Fett [Comlink] 04:44, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Duel on Yavin 4
I checked the Insider issue that discussed about the duel, the Ultimate Visual Guide, Jedi vs Sith, and there was no canonical name other than Anakin Skywalker vs Asajj Ventress on Yavin 4. Once I find my copy of NEC, I'll check that too.  JangFett  Talk 22:05, 30 August 2009 (UTC) "In space, Asajj Ventress toyed with Anakin Skywalker, leading her prey into hyperspace. They emerged at the jungle world of Yavin 4, and were soon joined by a company of clone troopers whom Obi-Wan had dispatched as backup. Anakin led the troopers trhough the sticky Massassi rain forest, watching helplessly as Ventress eliminated his men one by one. Finally, the two crossed blades atop a vine-blanketed ziggurat. Neither fighter could gain an advantage in a contest where they seemed to be evenly matched, but Anakin found his edge by tapping into his own rage. Knocked from the pyramid, Ventress vanished into the jungle below" pg. 62  JangFett  Talk 00:23, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool, thanks. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:07, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry it took so long to respond, Tope. In NEC, the duel does not have a canonical name.

Date page Sources
Sorry, I was following the precedent that 90+% of date pages follow in not citing sources/appearances unless requested by a fact tag. In fact the template I'm using to build these, 100 BBY, has no source section either, so you may want to slap a verify on that too, I'll do the same to any unsourced date pages I see from now on. Dangerdan97 23:42, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. Dangerdan97 23:46, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Merging
Thank you for expressing your concern, but you may want to ask me what happened first before you judge me. My computers internet was disrupted, so all saves had not been... saved. Mauser also expressed his concern on the page. I realize your concern, and I appreciate you looking out for Wookieepedia, but please don't judge without asking me what happened. Thank you and have a Wookiee-tastic day! Gmalek 00:17, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Executor in Atlas
I know the Executor FAN is not a short-term priority right now; but I just noticed that the Executor is mentioned in The Essential Atlas while no information from that source is ref'ed in the article. I noticed a mention in this Wookieepedia article. I do not own the Atlas, I only noticed that apparently it includes information that you could use. So I thought: "Hey, you can tell Toprawa and Ralltiir so he can check the Atlas and update his article". Thus is done. May the Force whatsoever.--Skippy Farlstendoiro 13:05, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I'm aware of all that needs to be done with Executor. Toprawa and Ralltiir 16:10, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

2BBYVW

 * Tope, in the Inq log, you mentioned a concern about the sectioning. I took it to mean that it needed ==History== and all the other history sections adjusted to be subsections of that. Is that what you meant? Thanks. Atarumaster88  Jedi_Order.svg ( Talk page ) 17:21, September 6, 2009 (UTC)

RE:GAN
I do understand your position and that of the AC, however, I did not violate that consensus because I made the changes Acky requested before it was taken down, I'm not sure why you think it was half-hearted. I also removed anything that could possibly construed as the "fanon" mentioned in the objection and from the vote to remove the article. I simply renominated the article after making appropriate changes like anyone else would have done if they wanted it to pass. And, frankly, I would like to put it up again. NaruHina Talk  04:28, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Re:KOTOR CT
Thanks for letting me know, Toprawa.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 22:48, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank you for pointing out what I'm doing wrong. I apologize to my fellow users, but sometimes, without offense to anybody, I've begun to question the leadership structure of this site. My merging, I believed was fine, but I do not recall Notron having anything like that, so you may want to check again. Thank you and have a great day. Gmalek 02:55, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

KashyyykPartyWookiee!
Yell at him all you want, he's gone inactive. Sry! PA&lt;BOYCRAZ 22:40, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Executor
There is a little bit of info from Hunting the Hunters that you may want to add to the Executor article. It mentions that Nariss Siv Loqesh was invited to join the hunt for Solo but declined. Given the current thoroughness on the bounty hunters, you might find a way to work this info in too. --Eyrezer 11:38, September 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope, the ship is not mentioned. -- 11:34, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

A request
Could you please restore Jonathan Green? I checked the information, and it's valid, I will wookify it in no time.  Mauser  Comlink 18:32, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Delete/Move request
Hey there Tope, could I get you to delete Fortris Gall and move Fortis Gall to that namespace once it's deleted? SWTOR.com has evidently updated the original web comic issue pages that had him named Fortis originally and his name is now confirmed to be Fortris Gall. Thanks. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 04:51, September 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * Done and done. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:55, September 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Appreciate it. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 05:02, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

AC meeting fourteen
AC Meeting Fourteen has been scheduled for Sunday, October 11th at 5 PM EDT. We encourage you to leave notes if you cannot attend. Thank you.  Grunny  ( Talk ) 06:55, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Filter malfunction?
Hi. I'm trying to post here but the filter says it detects links to external images, which I do not have. ―  T hailog  23:43, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

So who picked up Shira Brie?
Hi Tope,

Doing research for Lumiya, I noticed that the line from her Databank entry: "Her crippled body was gathered by Vader's agents, and she recuperated within secret chambers aboard the Super Star Destroyer Executor." differs from this line from the article The Emperor's Pawns which reads "When Vader found her floating in a mangled TIE, the scene was eerily reminiscent of his own experience after being blasted from the Death Star." I know this barely has anything to do with Executor and can be reconciled at a pinch, but you may want to re-phrase to cut out the contradiction or something, I don't know, or maybe it's worth having another minor discrepancy for our files... -- —Harrar  ( Cut the comm chatter ) 23:00, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Apologies
Everything said after this is not meant in a rude or sarcastic way. At all.

Okay, I want to start with an apology. I know you had good cause to block me for block evasion. To be honest, I had no idea that what I was doing was considered block evasion (I know that sounds stupid, but I did not know about the IRC. I was under the impression that the only way to contact an administrator was to do what I did.) That's not an excuse, I just wanted you to know that I was breaking rules because of ignorance, not because I don't care about the rules. So, I apologize for that, and I apologize for being rude. It was stupid, and inexcusable.

Second, I don't feel that what I posted was against the rules. The warning clearly states: "Any name discussions here must be strictly limited to introducing new canonical evidence of some type of alteration in his identity. This does not mean insisting he was totally redeemed at the end of Invincible. This means presenting a reasoned case based on a new release."

Here's what I said: "Yes, someone is actually starting the Jacen Solo vs. Darth Caedus argument again, but I have a good reason. In Abyss, during a news broadcast, he is referred to as (and I'm going from memory here, so it might not be exact) "Jedi-Knight-turned-Sith-Lord Jacen Solo." So, if HNE (or whoever was doing the broadcast) referred to him as Jacen Solo, doesn't that mean that the galaxy still refers to him as Jacen Solo? I bring this up because it's new canonical evidence, and it says this in the threatening box on top: "Any name discussions here must be strictly limited to introducing new canonical evidence of some type of alteration in his identity." And I specifically remember that one of the main arguments for the changing of the name to Darth Caedus was that that was how he was known when he died. This seems to challenge that idea, and it is from a canonical book, so I think we should have at least a small discussion about it. Again, I'm not trying to piss anyone off, just trying to follow the rules. I personally don't care if it's Jacen or Caedus. I think it should be how he thought of himself, but each author keeps changing it. In Invincible, he thought of himself as Caedus, but in Abyss, when he talks to Luke and Ben, he seems to be Jacen again. I just want to follow the rules."

Can you explain how that is a breach of the warning? I realize I named the section "Jacen Solo vs. Darth Caedus 4.0", but I did that to get attention. And, in my defense, it worked! The time stamp on your revert is one minute!

I'm not trying to debate whether or not I did something wrong. I just want to know how that is a breach of the rules. (And if reposting my original statement is against the rules, I apologize.)Joshuaingram 01:33, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * I stopped caring about you and your block a month ago. You can continue to plead your case to me, but the only place it's going to get you is blocked again for further agitating me and pushing this issue further than it needs to go. Furthermore, whatever evidence you think you have is likely to be pointless unless you discuss this with the user who is currently writing the Jacen Solo article. I encourage you to annoy him instead. Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:07, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * All I did was come to apologize and explain my actions. I'm sorry if I bothered you so much that you had to be rude about it. I'm not sure how that follows WP:CIVIL, but you're the administrator, you probably know better. I came back with a different attitude about it, just like you asked. If you feel the need to block me for "continuing to bother you" (which you'll have to tell me which rule that breaks), that's fine. As soon as I get the chance, I'm deleting my account because I'm tired of administrators breaking the rules and then trying to enforce the same rules on everyone else. Joshuaingram 02:26, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Playing the innocent-abused-bystander card won't get you anywhere either. But, please, keep trying. Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:30, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Look, I admitted what I did wrong, and I apologized. You chose to be rude this time, in clear violation of the rules. I am not playing any cards, except the admit-I-did-wrong-and-apologize card. Joshuaingram 02:41, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't care if you apologize or not. I've read what you've typed the first three times. And I don't care if you think I'm being rude to you. I've shown you the only forum that's going to be of any use to you in this matter. Take my word for it, no one on this site gives a crap about whatever you type on the Jacen Solo talk page. Whatever you say there isn't going to change anything. Take it to the person who is writing the article, because he is the one who is ultimately going to have the biggest say in determining which name is used. That is the last thing I have to say on this, so I'm going to ask you once to please leave me alone. If you contribute to this thread on my talk page again and continue to bother me, I will block you for disruption. You won't hear another word about it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:54, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Redirects
In general, should #redirects not be done for common "fan" terms to describe canon names? A casual star wars fan won't know what a "wampa" or a "dianoga" is, and even then they have to spell it right in order to find the article, but they might start the search with terms like "snow monster" and "trash monster". I created those #redirect pages with a legitimate intention to be helpful, not as "nonsense". Can I get a bit more elaboration on your thoughts re: deletion? fodigg  (talk) | 15:21, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * I had another redirect, this time for a common misspelling ("Gammorrean" to "Gamorrean") deleted. Why? Is that not exactly what "redirects" are for? To assist someone in locating the article they're after? fodigg  BlackRebelStarbird.png (talk) | 15:00, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Tokmia
Tokmia looks cool, and I'll review it when I'm back properly next week. Given your comments in the Bts about the depiction of the planet originally in SWR and then changed in subsequent sources, you may like to mention that the Tokmia SWR image is used to represent 22 different planets (Listed by Culator on the File page itself). -- 01:05, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, good point. I forgot about that. Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:10, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of SW Club reference pages
Hello there Toprawa. I am curious as to why a large number of SW club pages (including Rebel Squadrons, TIE Fighter Alliance, etc.) have been deleted from the 'pedia. The reason given was "1.7 unverified for X days", what does this refer to? Thanks in advance. --RS HeavyD 23:01, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * It means that Wookieepedia adopted a new set of notability requirements for fan project articles. The articles deleted today were tagged with the Notability template last Saturday, meaning they were given one week for someone to provide evidence of their notability pursuant to our new guidelines to prevent deletion. If an article you're looking for was deleted today, it means it no longer meets our notability requirements. You are welcome to start a new article for whatever you're looking for on the Star Wars Fan Wiki, which is slowly becoming the new home for these types of articles. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:07, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Vast Empire
Hello, I'm a member of the Vast Empire and would like to know how come our wiki page was deleted. 24.203.224.149 15:47, November 6, 2009 (UTC) (Rogueboy)

Revert
Hey, Toprawa, can I ask what's the deal with the revert on Tao? I know it's a kriffing FA nom, but I explained the reason for the changes I made. And stuff labeled Infinities is by definition non-canon.  Mauser  Comlink 02:13, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Tao
Could you please semi-protect Tao? The edit war over his canonical status is getting ridiculous. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 22:30, October 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, Cav has already done that. QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 23:05, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Quick review: Inexpugnable
Hello Toprawa! I've been working at improving the article Inexpugnable-class tactical command ship, with the hopes of getting it to Featured Article status (per the KOTOR Wookieeproject). I know it's not there yet, but since it will be my first serious attempt at making an FA, I thought I'd ask you, as an Administrator and Inquisitor, to tell me if I'm missing anything important or have done something seriously wrong before I nominate it (bear in mind that I am aware that it isn't done yet, I'm just making sure I'm on the right track). Excluding Headers, Picture Captions, the Infobox, Appearances, and Sources, it stands at 729 words, 850 if you include the Infobox (can probably get it to 1,000 by expanding on its role in battles.) I don't have a quote for it yet, but I have all of the KOTOR issues at home and will be reading through them to get a good quote either this evening or tomorrow. Thank you! Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith  -Just shy, not antisocial: You can talk to me!- 14:07, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * Please note that I've expanded on the history section, discussing briefly some of the specific ships of the class. The article is now at 840 words or 961 words (incl. infobox). Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith  -Just shy, not antisocial: You can talk to me!- 15:42, October 27, 2009 (UTC)