User talk:Hanzo Hasashi

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Reply
Also, you might have to wait a few days to edit the GAN page, still. Good to see you got your account working.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 20:05, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I can nominate for you. You get the credit for it, don't worry. ;)  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 20:07, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * All right, it's nominated.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 20:12, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Wallen
I struck the sentence, BtS, and Lego objections; you fixed up the first two well enough, and since you can't add anything about the Lego Star Wars game, then I suppose that objection is pointless. However, I cannot strike the P&T objection, purely because it is required, and there's no way of avoiding that rule. Yes, you'll have to force the P&T, and if you have trouble, see about that, he's very good at writing forced P&T's. And what about the two questions I asked? Any quotes, and the redundant BtS sourcing? Cheers, DC 21:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks great, all objections stricken, AC vote given. Great job, DC 22:01, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll reword the P&T a bit for you. Unfortunately, the links to the online cards no longer work, so there's not much we can do about that. I'll try looking for them tomorrow. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 22:29, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, yes - I don't see anything that's majorly wrong with it. But that doesn't mean others with find things to object to. Just keep up the good work, and Wallen will become a GA. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 23:09, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but that's not the way I work. If that objection was the only thing preventing the article from passing, then yes, I would strike and support. I'm not doing this to be mean; I just want to ensure that this article will be fully sourced. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 21:10, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't "support it more;" I can either object or support. And frankly, it's not the job of the AgriCorps - or anyone else - to hold your hand and guide you through the entire nomination. This is your work; therefore, it's your responsibility to see that the article contains all the info out there on Wallen. Once that is done, and I'm satisfied with it, then I will strike my vote and support. Until then, I ask you to wait. My first Featured Article nomination took a long time to pass; Good Article nominations can be the same. But Wallen will pass much faster if you take each objection and fix it right away. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 23:39, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Pardon me for butting in, but I read you're in need of CCG pics for this article. You can probably find the ones you need here.  Good luck! :-) jSarek 01:12, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Very well, but I would like to see Toprawa's and Cav's objections satisfied before supporting. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 12:06, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * First off, sorry for answering a question on your talk page, Tope. Hope you don't mind. Anyway, AFAIK, you need to be registered for a few days (about 5) to edit the GAN page, regardless of how many edits you have. And mainspace edits are edits to articles, not forums, talk pages, or your userpage. Also, please be patient and stop badgering users to review your article. They'll get to it soon, don't worry.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 22:23, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, that's understandable that you want it to get passed ASAP.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 22:49, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Striking other users' objections
Do not strike other users' objections on the GAN page. It is up to each individual objector to strike their own objections. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 00:23, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Wallen sources
Sure I can check those sources for you. Give me a few days to go through my collection, and I'll add them to the source list. - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 12:24, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Fanon warning
- Lord Hydronium(Oya!) 01:33, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Not intended to be fanon. Hanzo Hasashi 01:36, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Scripts aren't movies. And please understand, the transition process is long and we need to stay organized. Random users moving things willy-nilly is not going to help here. If you want to participate in the process, we'll have sign-ups starting on the 6th. - Lord Hydronium(Oya!) 01:37, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Warning
Please stop adding unverified information to articles, such as Chiraneau. While it's obvious those are all the same actors given it's just reused footage, nothing ever states those are the same IU characters. Thank you. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Trooper
I added a note to the article saying the canonicity of the comic is in question.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 23:21, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Eh, probably not. Don't think it matters.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 23:30, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Executor characters
I'm going to politely ask you to drop the subject of Executor officers dying at Endor. I asked you once before when this conversation was ongoing to drop it then. I know you want to believe that every officer on the bridge died, and when you find a speck of information that seems to allude to that, you want to jump on it, but the information just isn't out there. If it was, it would have been added to the article already. Please do not add unverified information to an article unless a source explicitly states that someone died. Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:21, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry bout that, sometimes I still make assumptions based off of established facts, and no I am not just trying to say what I want to be the case, I just sometimes jump to conclusions about alot of things, like when I tried to say Cane Adiss's fate was unknown because the Databank says so, even though apparently manual of style rules are not to say *insert name here*'s fate is unknown even if an official source says that it is, and when I tried to add in the info that Endicott was at the superlaser just based on seeing him there ROTJ (which you later on indeed added to his page). By no means am I trying to influence the canon or think that I have control of the canon, that was more of a thing of the past during my days as an anon, but I still do make mistakes sometimes. :)Hanzo Hasashi 01:43, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Understood, no worries. I just want to avoid rehatching old debates. Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:44, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Nevar
Thanks for getting that Nevar spelling bit. You'd think 7 people looking at it would have caught it. :P Kudos for having that knack for finding little bits of missing stuff in these CCG articles. :) Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:08, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Insider 83
Hey, Hanzo. Do you still have Star Wars Insider 83? Where exactly does it mention R3-O1? Thanks for any help, ~ SavageBob 03:21, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the response. I asked another user to check for me, and he said he didn't find any mention, so it must have been a mistake by the Yodapedia people. I appreciate your help! ~ SavageBob 23:51, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re: May CAN
Hi, I misremembered. This wasn't a CT, just a discussion on SH, here: Forum:SH Archive/Request for comments: Apparently human characters. It wasn't put on CT, but was accepted by many expirienced users. Common sense rules! I won't object your nomination. I hope an Educorps member will join the discussion soon. Darth Morrt 03:33, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

Re: My CAN objections
Done. However, could you, in the future, wait a week before you remind me? I tend to check the nomination pages regularly. :) Cheers. 1358  (Talk) 20:16, November 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Davod Jon
Struck. Thanks for reminding me; I completely forgot about that. Cheers. 1358 (Talk)  18:52, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Stormtrooper species
Hey, Hanzo. I've been looking high and low for some source that names TIE pilots as Human, but so far no luck. There is this, from Star Wars: The Complete Visual Dictionary, p. 232: "Made up of clones, as well as human recruits, Imperial Stormtroopers are first-strike units sent into critical combat situations in support of both the Imperal Star Fleet and the Imperial Army." This might be a better reference for future stormtrooper articles, since the CSWE alludes to the Human species but doesn't outright say it. I'll let you know if I find anything on the TIE pilots, but I'm running out of places to look... (You could always start a Knowledge Bank thread on it, though; more people would see the question there.) ~ SavageBob 21:58, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, is there a way to cite the Complete Visual Dictionary? And should the articles I just added (RGA-972 and NT-311) be cited with Complete Visual Dictionary, or can I keep the CSWE citations I added earlier today? Hanzo Hasashi 02:23, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * You can just cite the CVD normally; there's no special template for it. As for whether you should keep the CSWE sources or change it, I'd say you can probably leave your older ones as they are, you should probably start using the CVD, and for the ones that are currently nominated, change to CVD only if you feel like it. :) ~ SavageBob 03:03, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Already done, thank you. And thanks for informing me about the Knowledge Bank, too. :) Hanzo Hasashi 04:29, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

DV-523
For the record, please do not come begging me for votes. I will get to the article eventually when I have time. 1358 (Talk)  19:23, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Archiving CAN's
Hey, Hanzo. Just a reminder to follow all of the instructions for archiving successful CA nominations. Go for it! Menkooroo 02:41, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Whoops, seems I spoke too soon. Seems like you have it well in hand. Sorry! Menkooroo 02:43, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem. Thanks for the reminder anyhow. Hanzo Hasashi 02:45, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think you got everything except this. I took care of it for ya, but definitely remember to update it next time. Also, be sure to add successful at the top of each archived nom page, so that it'll be uneditable and look like this. Menkooroo 04:42, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for both. With the archived nomination pages, I knew I was missing that part, but couldn't figure out what to do. It did not help that I could not even view the sources of past ones. But I saw that you took care of those by the time I went back to those pages to attempt to archive them. Hanzo Hasashi 05:04, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Please add the revision numbers at the same time as the milestones. You are not in a hurry, so please follow proper procedure. 1358  (Talk)  19:32, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Self-archiving CANs
Hey, Hanzo. Again, I strongly recommend that you not archive your own noms to the CAN page. It's a conflict of interest in my opinion, since whoever archives a nom and either passes or fails it is supposed to also make sure that all objections have indeed been addressed. There is not a rule against self-passing and archiving, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea. In short, there's no rush to get these entries off the page, so if you have a little patience, someone else will archive your successful noms for you. Sorry if this comes off as scolding; I really do appreciate the effort you put into your CA noms, and I'm glad you're so gung-ho about contributing. :) ~ SavageBob 22:20, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not just my own noms, I've archived any noms that have had either 2+ EC votes after at least 2 days or at least 4 votes if there's 1 EC vote after a full week in the past. I have also seen this done before by other users after enough time passed based on the number of votes. And I have only archived noms with all objections struck. Hanzo Hasashi 23:13, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * That's fine for other people's noms, but I'm just suggesting that it's a conflict of interest for your own stuff. And I'm not accusing you of doing anything wrong, so sorry if it came off I was saying you had archived things that shouldn't be archived. I'm just saying that, in principle, it would be better to let someone else do it. If I notice others archiving their own noms, I'll suggest that they not do so as well. In the end, this is just my opinion, of course. But it may be something we have to address in the future if others aren't as honest about it as you are. :) ~ SavageBob 00:03, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Does the EC have the problem that the Inq had in the past of things just waiting days to be archived? This may be a symptom more than anything. Graestan ( Talk ) 00:14, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sometimes, but seemingly not as much now. Hanzo Hasashi 02:06, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

The Corn Man
Hey! Yeah, the artwork from the side of the action figure packaging is definitely canon. Check out Keyan Farlander for a Featured article that uses it. I'll review Oxixo soon, I swear! Menkooroo 04:52, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Rokon
I would like to ask why you removed my added BTS sentence in Rokon. I did not suggest or argue that it was the inspiration or origin of the name; I just thought it may fit in the article, like with Csilla or Csaplar. Feel free to provide me with the explanation if I'm mistaken.&mdash; TK-999  (Talk) 14:45, March 24, 2011 (UTC) Thanks for explaining.&mdash; TK-999  (Talk) 15:27, March 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * See Good article nominations/Hija, an ultimately successful nomination. On that nom, it was discussed whether Hija being Spanish for daughter is worth noting, and the conclusion was that, without proof of the Spanish word being the inspiration, it would not go into the BTS. Hanzo Hasashi 15:15, March 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem, your edit was in good faith, and I learned a Hungarian word that day. :) Hanzo Hasashi 15:30, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Vandolay
Thanks for the request, but I am not a quite good reviewer&hellip;&mdash; TK-999  ( Rise of the Empire ) 15:20, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Alright, that's understandable. Hanzo Hasashi 15:31, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re: NT-311
Hey Hanzo, I didn't really contribute to the article per se&mdash;I didn't make any sort of copy-edit or prose fixes or anything; I just added the Cacleanup template because it shouldn't have been removed&hellip; I didn't have time to review the article yesterday, but I've reviewed it today. Jonjedigrandmaster ( Talk ) 14:30, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re: TK-622
Yeah, Akobi's entry is one of the victims of the Databank purge. In such cases, there are several possible solutions to access the data. Hope that helps :) QuiGonJinn  (Talk) 21:56, May 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Look at the Internet archive like I did with Able. If this fails, then,
 * 2) Check out this Chinese site, which basically includes all the databank entries. Here's Akobi's, for example.
 * 3) Check The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia. There's a 99% chance that the entry's the same as the databank's one.

Tantive IV
I think it would only be OK to say that they participated in the battle if it were a live-action shot on the card of one of the rebel troopers from the film. As it stands, I think it would unfortunately be speculation to say that they participated in the battle. Menkooroo 03:03, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Updating articles
Hello, Hanzo. I've noticed that you are frequently very enthusiastic to update a Featured or Good status article when you learn of new or missing information, particularly, it seems, articles I have helped write and nominate. Your boldness is appreciated, but, as the primary author and essentially the foremost monitor and caretaker of these articles, I would appreciate it even more if you would first give me an opportunity to add the update myself rather than jumping right in and trying to do the update as soon as possible. In this specific instance, I refer to Davin Felth. Simply sending me a talk page message or leaving a notice on the article's talk page will be sufficient to inform me that an update is required. Thanks. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:27, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi, that is true I like updating various quality articles. However, I never really keep track of who's the one who originally nominated them, however the ones I am most familiar with are the minor movie characters, and coincidentally it appears you have done the most work on those ones. In any case, point taken, I shall from now on either leave talk page messages to the original nominators, or on the article in question's talk page. Hanzo Hasashi 19:58, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Dyer
Thanks; I'll take a look at the article when I have time.  JangFett  (Talk) 04:36, May 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it needs to say "Dyer is part of Tempest Squad, Dyer commanded Tempest Squad" or something along those lines. In the Tempest article, do you know where Dyer is said to be a leader of it? I don't know where that or how Tempest originated, besides Igar and the AT-STs/AT-ATs.  JangFett  (Talk) 15:11, May 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * That's fine then. I don't think Dyer is part of the squad, unless it's mentioned somewhere. I don't think so, though.  JangFett  (Talk) 15:27, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Nothing?
I will but only if you can honestly tell me that you can't even infer anything about his personality. (if you can I'll put a vote in to support it). Darth Needham 17:53, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Captain Needa
If that is the case, I'll update the article once the book is released. Grand Moff Tranner (Comlink) 18:17, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

CA Archiving
Hey Hanzo,

Just a heads-up that you archived Balith Civil War when I still had an unstruck objection. The objection was addressed, but it still needs to be struck. No need to undo the archiving here, but definitely be careful in the future. Cheers! Menkooroo 11:06, June 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries. It's not a big deal. :) Yeah, the objection was satisfied. Menkooroo 03:39, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Head-to-Head for Zuckuss and 4-LOM
Any new information from that book? Or is it regurgitated stuff from other sources? The Character Encyclopedia is already on my buying list (planning to grab that next week or so, actually), but if you happen to have the info from that, it'd be greatly appreciated. If I can get these outta the way prior to Zuckuss getting re-featured on the 17th, that'd be great.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 03:45, June 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well as you can see from this forum, I own neither of these, but the user Sompeetalay, also one of the admins of the Dutch wiki Yodapedia, does, and he has updated articles with those sources on that site. It would appear that only Head-to-Head gives simply their heights in kilograms, which can also be done with real-world math. It doesn't seem like the Encyclopedia has anything new. Hanzo Hasashi 03:59, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Aloo there!
Hey! I noticed that you added the Character Encyclopedia as a source for Sim Aloo. Is it by any chance this picture? I'm on a source hunt for the dude with the tall hat. Thanks! Menkooroo 05:29, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Panno
Thank you, Hanzo. I'll add the information into the article. Grand Moff Tranner (Comlink) 16:17, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Hi!
Yeah, I'd be happy to do a pre-nom for him. I just checked the CSWE, and he doesn't have an entry. He does, however, appear in the ROTJ photocomic. The top of his face, from the eyes up, is visible in a screenshot of the rebel briefing. Nothing in the ROTJ comic adaptation, but I'll check the manga for ya. I'll get back to you with pre-nom results! Menkooroo 14:21, July 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * You were right about the manga. Storybook should be available to me in about an hour. No way I'll be able to get the Disney Book and record. :P Hey, send me an e-mail at gradualferguson@hotmail.com. Some of these sources are easier to track down than you think, and I can tell you how! As for Midge, just two small things:
 * Mon Mothma inspiring him to join the Alliance would probably be at home in the bio, too.
 * "Destroyed" is used twice in a row when the Battle of Endor is discussed. Can you change one of them up?
 * All from me! Menkooroo 14:44, July 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Satisfied like a fox! Menkooroo 15:18, July 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I will! But first... I think you forgot to add it to the bottom of the GAN page. :) Menkooroo 02:12, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Chee on Facebook
If you're going to keep linking to Leland Chee's Facebook page, please link to specific posts. Linking to the main blog page will be useless after enough posts pile up to bury whatever fact you're trying to source. Under the top post in a thread, there will be a date or time, such as "X hours ago" or "Xday at X PM" which is actually a link to the individual post. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 17:39, July 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks for that. As you can see, Chee's just established more canon facts recently both today and yesterday. Hanzo Hasashi 18:25, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

You tawny boy
As you can see here, Yutani is in the Return of the Jedi Storybook, seated next to a glum-looking Lieutenant Page. You could probably say that he's in Star Wars: Return of the Jedi 3: Mission to Endor --- although we don't see the faces of either him or Page, we see their legs, and we know from the film that those are their legs. added it as an appearance for Page when I was writing him last summer, and I agreed with his logic. As he's sitting immediately behind the main characters, he's easier to spot than some of the other characters in the briefing scene.

In Star Wars Manga: Return of the Jedi 2, there's just white space behind the main characters, save for one panel which I've just e-mailed to you. There's a moustached-man behind them, in between the two H's, who actually looks a lot like Yutani. Considering the detail that the manga adaptations often go to to include miniscule characters in the background, I'd say that it's our man. Take a look for yourself.

He is in the photocomic, seated next to Page and behind the heros. He does NOT have a CSWE entry. Hopefully this helps! Let me know if you need anything else. Menkooroo 15:22, July 11, 2011 (UTC) As far as Grond goes: I really have no idea. I'm just learning the ropes of the INQ Redux page, and I really don't know about the AC one. I'd recommend asking a member of the AC. Menkooroo 02:03, July 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Update: Something for the Sources section --- Return of the Jedi Official Poster Monthly 4 . We see everything but his head sitting behind Han in a screenshot of the briefing scene. Menkooroo 15:43, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) I'd recommend merging Heavy weapon specialist and Heavy Weapons Specialist. They're the same thing.
 * 2) Can "Alliance Special Forces" in the infobox be sourced to the film, or should that be to the CCG card?
 * 3) That's all. Good job! Although I'm wondering if the info about him carrying custom repulsorlifts might be more at home in Personality & traits. Not sure... think about it. Menkooroo 04:31, July 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * Done, and the last one I indeed moved. Thanks for the prenom! Hanzo Hasashi 14:43, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re: AC redux
You're right, Grond may require a trip to the AC redux page given the amount of changes that have happened. I will bring this up at the next AC meeting on the 30th. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Kilson ( Let's have a chat ) 04:34, July 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * After taking a quick glance, the only two things I could find were these:
 * You might want to mention that he was stationed on Endor in the Intro, probably in the sentence where you mention Vader's arrival.
 * In the Bts, you need to make it clear that the original Grond in Episode 6 was not confirmed to be Grond at first. Also, try putting the Bts in chronological order of events that happened.

Otherwise, it looks good. Kilson ( Let's have a chat ) 16:11, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, a GA that undergoes major editing after it passes needs to be put on the Redux no matter what. However, we will decide if it needs to be Reduxed at the meeting. Good job working through those objections. Kilson ( Let's have a chat ) 21:15, July 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * I would say yes. Kilson ( Let's have a chat ) 21:20, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yutani

 * Hey. I don't have Behind the Magic. I know Bob does, but he won't have access to it for a few more weeks. Menkooroo 03:59, July 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... I think it might be prudent to add them here, yeah. I'll be happy to support them, however. :) Menkooroo 04:27, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Wallen
Perfect. Clean, clear, no assumptions. Menkooroo 14:35, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Bly
After a double-check, nope. I just forgot to remove the tag.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 17:18, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

John Lithgow?
In all honesty, I would unquestionably interpret "part of the ground assault team that infiltrated the Empire's shield generator station on the Forest Moon of Endor" as meaning that he was on Endor. "He was part of the team that infiltrated the shield generator" means, IMO, that he infiltrated the shield generator. It doesn't say "He was part of the team that, on a completely unrelated note, happened to also infiltrate the shield generator." Menkooroo 06:17, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Niktos
Oy. I've been told by more than one person (this guy included) that that very Leland Chee post is exactly WHY they're wrong in the first place. I can't tell them apart myself, so I'll let the revert stand, and hope you've got it right and the other folks have it wrong. . . jSarek 23:27, September 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Right, I knew the pics matched up with the Decipher cards, but I'd been given the impression that those cards contradicted other information, and that other information was ultimately ruled correct. That said, looking over what we have compared to what is posted in that comment thread, I'm inclined to believe you're correct. jSarek 23:43, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Junior novel
As far as I know, the junior novel's text is nearly identical to the regular novel, but condensed in various places. There might be a bit of paring down difficult prose, but I'm nearly certain that there isn't any new info, save for in the 2004 editions by Ryder Windham which contain a few references to the prequels. I haven't actually read any of the OT junior novels, but I did read the Shadows of the Empire junior novelization prior to reading the regular book, and I can tell you that the former was just a shorter version of the latter. So, uh, to summarize, there shouldn't be any new info in the junior novel on the stormies, as far as I know. :D Menkooroo 03:33, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Kagi
Yes, I will be nominating Kagi for GA status eventually. Grand Moff Tranner (Comlink) 21:05, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Edits to Turr Phennir's brother
Hi Hanzo,

Just to let you know that i put Dark Curse source on Turr Phennir's Bro page is because it is the source of info for the behind the scenes section

also, just wondering if you would know how to make the redlink Older Brother on Turr Phennir page link to Turr Phennir's Brother page

Thanks alot

--Dkwolf27 19:19, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Hanzo
Have worked out how to pipelink now, thanks for your help. Thought i'd just stick with not having source on, to be honest you probably know alot more than me about what's needed & whats not. -Thanks again, not sure what happened to the welcome messages, they were there before --Dkwolf27 20:00, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Wookieepedian of the Month
Hey Hanzo! Many Congrats on winning WotM hands-down!-- Cal Jedi (Personal Comm Channel) 13:08, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yawah!!! Unlimited yawah to you, my friend. :) MasterFred Commerce Guild.svg(Whatever) 13:50, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks everybody! :) Hanzo Hasashi 02:18, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Terry McGovern
Thanks for the info. I've added it to the article. Darth Morrt 17:06, October 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the notice. Is there anything else from the text I should know? Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:33, October 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Updated Felth. Thanks again. Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:38, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Chiraneau
While your assistance is appreciated, Chiraneau is technically still my charge. I'd appreciate it if you talk with me before making any further changes to the article. Thank you. Grand Moff Tranner (Comlink) 00:10, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

DS-181-4
Heya. All the information I know about for DS-181-4 is put in. So I'd say remove the tag. But if I do find out more information I'll definitely add it in. StarsiderSWG 01:53, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Kosh
I've removed the story from the appearances section and made a Bts note per the AC consensus. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 17:38, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Stormtrooper FAN
Thanks, but it is not just grammar. The BTS should be copyedited, and I'm sure Toprawa or Tanner or some other will have many more objections that I haven't ever thought of. Darth Morrt 02:43, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

181st Imperial Fighter Wing
The citations that you removed were put in the article in that way due to the mix of information from varied sources. If you leave only the references at the end of the paragraph, then you are saying that both references contain all the information found in the paragraph, which is not the case.  Gethralkin  Hyperwave 04:51, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re: The Price of Victory
Cabbel does not appear in The Price of Victory as far as I can tell.-- Exiled Jedi   (Greetings)  22:53, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Arven Wendk
Hi Hanzo,

I originally believed that Arven was removed from the game, but when I went to Deeja Peak several weeks back, I actually found him in the city. So yeah, he was never removed from the game -- but his quests were (they were probably bugged or something). When you talk to him, he just says he'll have work later, or something like that. I took a new screenshot of him in-game which I'll probably put in the article later.

For the actual quest dialogue he used to have, I'd have to check the TRE files.StarsiderSWG 05:09, December 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi, just saw your conversation. I took screenshots of Dee'ja peak and all NPCs there a few days ago and also talked to all NPCs to make sure I didn't miss a quest. Wendik's quests are still active, I did them myself yesterday. I guess you have to be a overt/combatant Rebel player when you talk to Wendik to get them. The final mission for him is still bugged btw. --Craven 19:58, December 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yep, the final mission seems to be bugged. It leads you to a location outside of Deeja Peak where you are supposed to destroy something. At least for me, there was only something that looked like a large piece of metal junk. Couldn't click or destroy it and nothing else happened. --Craven 02:04, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Vindoo and others
Hi again,

Yeah that Vindoo edit looks good. I'm not sure what ship he flies specifically in the game, but I'll try to figure that out. I've been slacking a bit on updating the articles, but I'll try to get around to those when I can. I'm just using this last week to grab as many more screenshots from SWG as I can.StarsiderSWG 03:54, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Third Rock from Endor's Sun
Hanzo! If you've finished up Janse, then I'm guessing that you're on Christmas break. How did the semester go? Also, I vaguely recall not answering some questions about something on the wook that you e-mailed me a few months ago... I'll dig those up. Anyway, on to John Lithgow.

The article looks really good. I recommend adding his species and sex to the intro; it might not be absolutely essential, but someone else will probably object to it or add it themselves.

I'd mention that he's a sharpshooter before going into the 4 ABY stuff --- introducing him as a former sharpshooter probably isn't the best way to chronologically do it. Definitely keep the mention that he's no longer a sharpshooter, but establish earlier on that he is one (in the intro and bio). Make sense?

Can the detail on Han and Chewie's brawl with the troopers be skimmed down? It would be good detail for an article on the mission, but it seems a bit much for an article on Janse.

The bio seems long enough for an image. Maybe the one you used in Brooks Carlson? Alternatively, if you got a screengrab from the film of him in the briefing, you could ask Culator or somebody to get an HD shot.

I have more of a suggestion than an objection: When I wrote Page, I got some good info on why Han recruited who he did for the strike team from The Movie Trilogy Sourcebook and the Rebellion Era Sourcebook. If you check out here: (Solo) had witnessed their loyalty and dedication,[13] and was aware of their resourcefulness and ability to devise creative situations.[15] If that's applicable to all of the strike team's members, it seems like it would do well in Janse's Personality and Traits. Something to think about. Sorry that I didn't think to bring this up when you wrote Brooks; if you like it, you could add it to his article, too.

Great job! Really good to see you back with another ROTJ nom. Do Avarik and Elsek next! Menkooroo 04:52, December 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * I found it! It was on facebook: Hi Jeff, when you are online, is it logical, based on Janse's former employment with BlasTech, that he was affiliated with the Empire? From October 6. Sorry I didn't respond. :S I'd say.... no. But it looks like you decided the same. :) Menkooroo 04:59, December 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... maybe that info is only applicable to the strike team members who served at Echo Base. Page is confirmed to have been on Hoth by a buncha other sources, but I don't think that that's necessarily the case for everyone. Maybe it's better to leave that info out of Janse, then. Do you have access to The Movie Trilogy Sourcebook? If not, check your facebook.
 * Re: The sharpshooter edit --- if the CSWE calls him a "former" sharpshooter, that should be mentioned somewhere in the article. Menkooroo 05:15, December 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem. Let me know what you find. I'll be (finally!) back in Canada on Monday and will have access to my full collection then. Menkooroo 05:22, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Marmor
Hellooooo!!!!

I think you're right about Marmor. I wouldn't assume anything based on the picture other than that he was doing something at some undetermined time. The article looks really good! I made a tiny copy-edit; "extra" didn't seem like the right wording for a card game, as it usually refers to someone standing in the background of a movie.

OK. Here's what The Movie Trilogy Sourcebook has to say about Solo's strike team:

''When General Solo volunteered to assemble a strike team for the highly dangerous Endor mission, he went with a known quantity&mdash;the men of Hoth base. Solo had worked beside these exceptional men on the frozen ice world. He had seen their loyalty and dedication in action. He knew they had what it took to get the difficult job done.''

''Luckily these same men had been stationed with the fleet since their evacuation from Echo Base on Hoth. A quick call to Major Derlin and Solo had his team assembled in no time.''

''They were all volunteers, eager to strike a blow against the Empire. The events that unfolded during the assault on Hoth had hardened them into a solid veteran unit, and they were itching for revenge. Solo told them that this was going to be an extremely dangerous mission and they willingly, even eagerly, accepted the risks.''

... There were eleven men under Derlin.

So! It seems to me... that we can definitively say that every commando on the strike team was also at Echo Base during the Battle of Hoth. I guess some updates to Janse and Brooks Carlson are in order. Looks like you can take them to the FAN page; they'll be over a thousand words for sure! :)

There's also some info on what the strike team is up to while they wait to rendezvous with Solo in the short story Night Attack. I think I need to update Page with a couple of sentences from it, too. I can e-mail a screenshot of it to you if you need it. Menkooroo 14:33, December 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * If Janse joined the rebels after Hoth, then yeah, the only update needed is probably a BTS note explaining the discrepancy. I'll take a look at Brooks tonight or tomorrow. Menkooroo 18:13, December 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * You're going to bring Janse and Kensaric to the FAN page? Awesome! Yeah, I can prenom both of those today. Cheers. Menkooroo 18:46, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re:CAN archive
Done. I seen that it was ready to archive, but I usually work my way down the CAN page when I'm archiving. I went ahead and took care of it right now, though. Cheers.-- Cal Jedi (Personal Comm Channel) 22:34, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Yutani
Hey. Sorry to make your life even harder, but: http://www.starwarsccg.org/cards/v7.htm Click on the "Captain Yutani with Blaster Cannon" card --- it looks like he fought in the Battle of Hoth! Menkooroo 13:51, December 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * SCRATCH THAT! The Virtual Block sets are fan-made. They're not canonical. Phew. Menkooroo 13:54, December 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... with all of these counter-examples popping up, maybe we can't say that guys like Kensaric and Brooks Carlson were definitely at Hoth? I don't know; what do you think? Menkooroo 21:29, December 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Looking again at the text from The Movie Trilogy Sourcebook, I think that it's safer to assume that any given Endor commando was at Hoth unless otherwise indicated. If other Wookieepedians disagree, they can bring it up on the FAN page.

I'm reading through Janse right now. The update is good, but I think that a lot of the info from Night Attack can be cut. Since the article is about Janse, and not about either Derlin or Delevar, details like "the scanners picked up a large target moving toward them. Derlin suspected that the contact was an All Terrain Scout Transport; his suspicions were proven when its twin spotlights were spotted in the distance." could be shortened to only get the essential information across --- something like "the scanners picked up an AT-ST coming toward them." would be enough. Details like "although he was afraid that the pilot would simply start blasting away at the forest now that his vehicle was blind and deaf" and "believing that the launcher contained an explosive round, and fearing that the resulting explosion would tip the Imperials off to their location" would definitely be important info for Derlin's article, but not so much for Janse's. Go through the Night Attack stuff and see what can be cut or shortened in order to keep the focus on Janse and the strike team, rather than on Derlin or Delevar. Menkooroo 21:38, December 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * The changes to Janse look great. I think that there's still a little too much info, though --- for the purposes of Janse's article, stuff like "Delevar grabbed the squad's Caspel launcher and loaded a smoke canister into it. Moving into a trench in front of the walker, Delevar took careful aim at the face of the cockpit and fired a grenade straight through the cockpit window." could probably just be "Delevar fired a smoke canister into the cockpit window." Go through and see if there are any other examples you think could be shortened. That kind of detail would be great for an article on the mission, but for Janse, it's best to get only the key points across when you're talking about what someone else is doing. See if you can do the same for Kensaric's and Carlson's articles, too.

I talked to Toprawa on IRC, and he agrees that it's best to assert that Brooks Carlson and the other strike team guys were at Hoth. So I think we can safely lay that issue to rest. Phew! :) Menkooroo 03:35, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

The boys in camo
I just read Kensaric! The article is really good. I have one recommendation, though: For chronology's sake, mention that Kensaric has been stationed with the fleet since Hoth and promoted to Corporal before talking about the second Death Star.

Some recommendations for Kensaric, Janse, and Brooks: The bios are pretty long --- maybe split them into two sections? It might also be a good idea to use a different image for each article. I'm sure you can find some more relevant ones; it'll certainly be more interesting than using the exploding Death Star for all three of them.

In all three articles, there are a lot of short paragraphs. Can you combine some of them, thereby producing less paragraphs? Menkooroo 05:48, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Bald guy
I can't seem to find him in any of the adaptations. As for checking the film, to be honest, I think that that's something you should be able to do yourself. If you do find him, let me know what scene he's in, and I'll scour the comic adaptations and stuff really closely.

Final pre-noms for the strike team guys coming TONIGHT! Menkooroo 18:21, December 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Heya Hanzo,

I still felt like there was way too much detail from Night Attack. I made an edit to Janse that cut a good amount of detail. Some things that I felt were extraneous included: detailing the types of weapon that everyone carried, giving too much context on Corporal Beezer, and specifying that every action was based on an order from Derlin. For an article about Janse, those aren't really important things to note. What do you think? Let me know. A couple more things: Those first two sub-sections of the biography are both very short; it might be best to combine them into one. And be sure to alternate the images from left to right. Make those kinds of changes to Kensaric and Brooks, too, and I'll be happy to support them on the FAN page! :) Menkooroo 05:35, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Chiraneau and others
"Assembled troops" sounds more like actual soldiers to me, so I'd say no. Grand Moff Tranner (Comlink) 21:28, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Appo
No it did not. It mentions that he chased off Bail with other 501st members, but nothing about who said what.  JangFett  (Talk) 23:22, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Vul
It doesn't look like he's in any of the comics. For an obscure background Human, the PhotoComic was the best bet, but he wasn't even in there. GAN that man! Menkooroo 19:47, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Retired pilot
None of them actually contradict the movie, at least not in the scene with the pilot, as the meeting takes place several weeks before the events of the film. The two books clearly portray the same scene, but contradict each other. There's no clearly defined policy on this, but usually, if there's a large enough gap between the release dates of the contradicting sources, the newer source is treated as canon. However, in cases like this, where the two media were released almost at the same time, it is up to the author's discretion to choose either version of events for the main body, as long as the other one is described in the Bts. I chose the TPM novel here because there's just more biographical info there, like the Makem Te and the Kessel Run stuff. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 20:32, December 30, 2011 (UTC)