User talk:Admiral jolyon

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Right. Thanks for that. I'll keep that in mind.

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New computer
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WOTM
Just to let you know, I have nominated you for WOTM. Kuralyov 15:13, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Information

 * I've heard you have a lot of Star Wars games- does that mean that you have the Rogue Squadron games also? Atarumaster88  20:36, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

If your refering to Star Wars: Rogue Squadron then yes
 * Yes, that one and Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader and Rogue Squadron III: Rebel Strike also, if you have them. I was wondering if Wes Janson plays any role in those games, and if so, what exactly he does. Thanks. Atarumaster88  23:06, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

I've have not completed the game yet. In fact I do have trouble playing the game as it Irritatbly self closes the game. But I can complete it if you wish. As for the two games I actually don't have them since I don't own a Gamecube. Sorry.
 * No problem- just let me know if Janson has any parts in the game as you come to them. Thanks. Atarumaster88  15:23, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

I've have just placed some information involving Janson on his involvment in the First Battle of Balmorra. I've also said some infomation about his personality according to some Bios in the game itself. I assume this is what you required Atarumaster88.
 * Yes, that's great- and that's from Star Wars: Rogue Squadron, right? Atarumaster88  05:14, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

That is correct Atarumaster88. Let me ask you something, do you not own the games you asked me?
 * That is correct- I do not own the games. Oh, and thanks for your help. Atarumaster88  21:44, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Work on Task Force Vengeance
Hi, I read your message on my page. I really would like to work with you on the Balance of Power related pages, but I don't have the game. If you have it, and have time to play it again, I would really like to help you on this topic as far as I can. When I read the articles on the topic I just noticed that everything is only from the rebel point of view and I think we can't say the rebel campaign is canon while the imperial campaign is not. The one who created the articles did not do a serious work on it and it has to be corrected in my oppinion. But as I said above my abilities to do so without the game are at best limited. Someone should collect all available information from the two campaigns, so we could see where they could exist both together and where they just contradict each other. I don't know if you have seen, that somebody has already written something on the canon debate of the Vengeance page. He mentions that only the last mission makes a difference. If this is correct, we would only need to add the imperial campaign. Fleetadmiral Jack Ryan 22:45, 11 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I suppose so. As I said before I have the game and I have played both campaigns, I did look at the campaigns and I also gave the assumption that both were cannon, right down until the last mission. I am a supporter of the Rebellion, so I gave the assumption that, being an Empire hater in my opinion, I would give the last mission at the Battle of Nocto a rebel victory resulting in the Vengeance's destruction. User talk:Admiral jolyon


 * But for work on wookieepedia we should not regard the sides a person is on. we can only write down facts and if the last mission depends on the side the player takes, we can just write this, nothing more nothing less. Anything else would be wrong and not canon. We can't prefer the one ending over the other one. If both work, both are canon, if they don't none is canon. Fleetadmiral Jack Ryan 12:15, 12 May 2007 (UTC)


 * That is true. This is just like the other battles. In the game there are multiple missions whose, outcomes, depend on which side the player takes, if the last mission in both campaigns will become like this then that's fine by me, since I don't decide the outcome myself. However, if this means that all Imperial missions are cannon then we will have to produce articles about them. The most important bit to consider is the title of the campaigns, we can't have 'Spreading the Rebellion' as the title itself can't we? So we may need a new title to place for the battles in the Airam Sector.


 * I think we need to keep the titles of the campaigns, because this is what someone could be looking for. The titles also would be what is canon, all titles we create would be fanon. Perhaps we should add in one of the first sentences that there is another campaign from the other side (rebellion or imperial too). But of course we would have to create articles for all battles of both campaigns, and as soon as one battle from the one side contradicts a battle from the other side we have to mention this. And we have to create a timeline for the campaigns. There are also wrong links in the existing articles which I am already trying to correct. (Like ISD Nemesis, which is destroyed during the campaign, is linked to ISD Nemesis of the Thrawn campaign years later.) And there are a lot of dead links, where articles also have to be created. So as you can see there is a lot of work to do. Fleetadmiral Jack Ryan 20:43, 13 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Your right, we do have to stay with the title and we do need to know the proper timelines for each mission, perhaps we try to make a reasonable timeline. we'll also need the names of every starship in the Imperial campaign for that matter as well, since they weren't named. I could make the list of each Rebel (and Airam) starship in the Imperial Campaign.


 * wow, fast response ;) yeah this would be great, perhaps do this for all ships in both campaings, because we should check if the existing articles are right. I found the guy who first created the articles, but I am not sure if we should involve him because he did a quite poor job. while you look for the ships write also down every information you get on this ships, write down the mission description and all the stuff that happens or is mentioned. I think you knwo what I mean. Fleetadmiral Jack Ryan 21:16, 13 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I'll do that. I was just expanding the article Emon Azzameen on X-wing Alliance. By the way I was doing that earlier for the Rebellion campaign, I'll finish there and list whatever ships come accross on the Imperial Campaign.


 * Ok do that. In the meantime I'll check all the links on the existing articles and correct those which are wrong. By the way, do you have ICQ or something like this, which would make communication easier, because otherwise your talk page will get quite long ;)Fleetadmiral Jack Ryan 21:36, 13 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi I've seen your message on my page. But I still think we need a better way of communication than this. I suggested ICQ. Have you seen it? Fleetadmiral Jack Ryan 23:14, 16 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't even know what ICQ stands for, sorry, but I can't think of a better communication method.


 * ICQ is an instant messanger programm. you can download it on www.icq.com. its free... otherwise do you have skype?


 * Skype? I don't know what this is either.

Hi
Yes I read you... MoffRebus 00:27, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Admiral jolyon here, we have a problem involving the BFF-1 bulk freighters Norvach and Norvech. They are both the same thing, if you know what I mean.

Notes on spelling
Spellings to keep in mind:
 * appearances
 * rendezvous Enochf 20:59, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Am I not spelling those words correctly?
 * Allow me to stress again, A-P-P-E-A-R-A-N-C-E-S. Enochf 19:55, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

This is Admiral jolyon. I get it, I get it! I better check my contributions list on all new pages, just to make sure.

Moving pages
There's a button at the top for moving pages properly. Don't copy and paste them to a new name. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 16:32, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Delete request?
Hello? Why the delete request on the Guril quartet? Karohalva

This is Admiral jolyon. Karohalva the reason why I want to delete the Guril quartet is because I believe that most if not all articles involing groups of ships that have minor roles e.g. Hashim, Arrow and Ithor should be named by the group they belong to. I have put an article called Guril to see my kind of example. This is something I've been doing since I've joined and I have not been told to make articles about ships in the format you do. If you wish to pursue the matter I would suggest talking to User:I need a name. He is attempting to rename your articles such as Seize Airam Supply Platform at Goff into, presumably the First Battle of Goff.


 * Ah. Makes sense I guess. I would have named them so myself but I figured the admins would jump me for giving non-canonical titles to the fights. Karohalva


 * I can understand that. There are articles such as Century 1 and Century 2 as well but personally I would prefer the title of the group, which is what I do. One other thing; I have the game your refering to as well so I can help you on certain points if you wish. There is another point to consider; your quotes that you've put down are labled as unsourced, you will need to verify the sources. One last bit to consider is your Trap and Destroy Rebel Convoy Near Rocrin you don't have to list every loss the Rebels suffered there since we both no were no survivors the appropriate thing would be to say All forces.


 * Quote sources? Well, this is a wiki so feel free to have at it. I ripped them from the mission files. Heh. Editors don't have to be for changing files only! Since you seem to have several games yourself, you should think about downloading editors for them so you can extract info too. Karohalva


 * (slowly) Right. I could verify your quotes for you. There is one last bit, I get the feeling that you will say Defend INT from Rebel Hit and Fade for your next article, don't call it the title. Call it the Second Battle of Goff. And I've done the fourth mission as well. See First Battle of Mobetta

Tankeh
Thanks for polishing the BoP ship articles I made. They're easy to write but a pain to format. Karohalva

This is Admiral jolyon, your welcome. BTW, are you making the next mission from the campaign which is mentioned above? Once your complete let me know so that I can take a look at it and polish it as well.
 * It should be up by night-time. Karohalva
 * It's up. Karohalva


 * This is Admiral jolyon, Thanks for letting me know, I've just placed articles involving your starfighter squadrons and improved it any way I could. You can take a look at it if you wish. Furthermore, as I said earlier, I had already placed an article about the First Battle of Mobetta. I think it would be good idea if it was your turn to polish my battle article. Sort of exchanging favours.
 * Okay, modded the article a bit. I had a version of it written up but since there is one here already I mine wasn't needed. If you're curious, I stuck the text up on my userpage. Karohalva
 * This is Admiral jolyon roger that, I'm looking at it now. I must say it is impressive, and I've also noticed that you polished my article with the stuff you wrote, thanks. BTW, you said All Forces to the casultie list on the rebels, I said that the Cruicible escaped into hyperspace. The reason was that with the standerd gear used for the imperial starfighters used in that mission I didn't think destruction of the Cruicible would be possible.
 * The mission bonus goals include destroying it so I figured that made it official. Karohalva
 * That is true, but how would 'you' manage to destroy the Crucible I might have to ask.
 * I didn't. TIE Bombers Beta and ISD Rage did it without me. Karohalva
 * I see, so how did the crucible stay? 'Cause it withdraws last time I checked.
 * It is programmed to withdraw only after the factory is destroyed. Karohalva
 * I see. I'll replay the mission some time soon and I'll let you know later, Ok.
 * I have just played the mission you said it withdraws as after the factory is destroyed. Well I played it and it seems that the Cruicible withdraws if both shuttles are lost or if they reach the hanger. Also the Crucible would reach the hyperspace point very quickly at the position it starts in when it retreats. So how would one stall the cruiser?

Bounty Hunter

 * Hey. I noticed that you have been doing a lot of work on Bounty Hunter. Generally, in the past, whichever bounty was higher is the one that we consider to have been taken, since getting the highest number of credits would be doing a perfect game, which is what is considered canon. The only time we don't know if he took the bounty dead or alive is if the bounty is for the same amount either way. Also, since this is canon information, it doesn't need to be in behind the scenes (unless of course, the bounties were the same dead and alive).
 * I'm not sure if there's a relevant policy of if we just treat it like the KOTOR precedent where the "most lightside" decision is what we consider canon, but perfect game is the most canon, just so you know. Wildyoda 21:41, 13 November 2007 (UTC).
 * This is Admiral jolyon here. I've picked up your message. So your telling me that the most worth bounty is considered the cannon outcome of the bounty? Do you want me to notify the amount each bounties' worth, notify which one is considered cannon and rate notify those of which are the same price? I am open to your suggestions.
 * I was trying to find an example, but I can't. There was a guy a while back doing a lot of these. What I'm saying is just put exactly what you're putting now in the main article text and note that Jango took the higher one. Example: "The bounty was for $5000 alive and $2000 dead. Jango captured him alive." If the bounty is the same, just put that the bounty was for 5000 (or whatever) either way and then note in the BTS that since they are the same, we don't know which one he took. So basically, you're already doing it pretty close to perfect, it's just that it's not real-world-only information, so it can go in the main article text. Make sense? Wildyoda 22:20, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I roger that Wildyoda.

Wookify
I would ask that you attempt to write in a more Wookified fashion when creating/editing articles. The Manual of Style has much useful information regarding this. Your creation of Fubarium and my subsequent edits are an example of Wookification. Thank you. &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 17:21, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Skirmish in the Ruby Nebula
What is your source for saying Jango Fett was waiting for Reti in the Ruby Nebula? TheAinMAP 21:58, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

This is Admiral jolyon, I've picked up your message, do you have the game? (Admiral jolyon 22:19, 20 January 2008 (UTC))


 * Yes, for the X-box. TheAinMAP 23:02, 20 January 2008 (UTC)


 * At the start of mission one, which is of course in the Ruby Nebula, turn the ship to the left past the first asteroid and pull it down slight to view two more. And you should see Slave I in between the middle and far left. Keep in mind that you won't be able to pick the ship up on your sensors, target it or shoot the ship, oh and do this quickly but carefully, the ship will jump into hyperspace in at least 5-10 seconds. Take your time and once you find this "game secret" notify me or else I won't know and think that you wouldn't believe me, Oh could you also post an image for me? That would be very helpful. (Admiral jolyon 23:16, 20 January 2008 (UTC))
 * I found him. I probably would've never found him on my own. How did you know? It's not enough to say he was there for Reti, but based his next appearance, it's a safe bet.  TheAinMAP 01:31, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


 * That's true, however there is another "game secret" in a bonus mission for Jango Fett, which provides more thought. Have you played the bonus mission called Jango Fett?
 * Yes, I have played the level and have been attacked by Reti. But, I don't think the part of there being more than one Reti is canon. Also, I don't think I can figure out how to upload an image anytime soon.  TheAinMAP 22:52, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The events of that mission have been considered canon, they have been events 'before' the Skirmish on the Ruby Nebula. I think Jango Fett did say something about a price on Reti's head at the Battle of Nod Kartha, and I don't Jango Fett would want to let Reti get away for trying to assist Race Kartan.
 * I wasn't suggesting that the whole level was non-canon, just the part where you can get attacked by multiple Retis. Simply one Reti showing up would be canon. TheAinMAP 01:14, 24 January 2008 (UTC)


 * True I suppose, speaking of which, are you telling me that you were attacked by more than one Zoomer?, how?. BTW I also have the game's strategy guide which also stated what was happening as well. It also states that Jango Fett came for Reti because of a price on his head. (Admiral jolyon 17:06, 24 January 2008 (UTC))
 * Yes, I get attacked by more than one 'Zoomer'. All I do is fly to the asteroid at the far side of the spacestation and several Retis fly in from in from hyperspace.  When you shoot at one for a while they all go back to hyperspace.  On what platform do you play on?  TheAinMAP 01:06, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The Playstation 2 version of the game (Admiral jolyon 16:42, 25 January 2008 (UTC)).
 * Then it must be a difference between the X-box version and the Playstation 2 version. TheAinMAP 22:43, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I suppose. This is turning into quite a conversation I must say. I also know that the Strategy Guide covers both consoles, especially since they were the only versions that were released.
 * I'm wishing I had the Strategy Guide now. Does it mention any other differences between the versions at all?  We may have to mention any on the Jedi Starfighter article.  TheAinMAP 23:23, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The X-box should have a special Two-player bonus mission on Coruscant, plus there are two different trailers for each. Your X-box version should have Gladiators and Indiana Jones, while mine has Star Wars: Bounty Hunter and Star Wars: Revenge Racer (Admiral jolyon 17:09, 26 January 2008 (UTC)).
 * I added the Reti difference to the article, and the Coruscant bonus mission was all ready mentioned. I'm not sure how to add the trailer differences though.  TheAinMAP 01:29, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Roger that, if there is anything else you want to ask me just let me know. Admiral jolyon over and out. (Admiral jolyon 11:35, 29 January 2008 (UTC))

Reply

 * I suppose. What is this about?--Mith&#39;raw&#39;nuruodo 20:44, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I wish to know what Computer Games, if any, that you own so we can discuss how we can improve Wookieepedia in the Long run. (Admiral jolyon 16:29, 12 April 2008 (UTC))
 * Why me?--Mith&#39;raw&#39;nuruodo 18:25, 12 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Why not. I wish to help you on whatever you might contribute to Wookieepedia. But first I need to know what you computer games you have in possession, so we get you started. (Admiral jolyon 18:48, 12 April 2008 (UTC))
 * Thank you, but I do not need any help with contributing. Besides, I don't have many computer games anyway. Please refrain from contacting me in the future.--Mith&#39;raw&#39;nuruodo 20:09, 12 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Roger that, not very social are you? Over and out. (Admiral jolyon 22:50, 12 April 2008 (UTC))

Hello

 * Hey Jolyon, what's up? Brandon Peat 19:05, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello Brandon Peat. From what I understand on your userpage you have the X-wing Alliance game. (Admiral jolyon 19:07, 14 April 2008 (UTC))
 * Yep, that's correct. Great game, btw.  Brandon Peat 19:10, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed. I wanted to know if you have the other games X-Wing, TIE Fighter and X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter.
 * I have the Collector's CD re-releases of X-wing and TIE. Don't have XvT.  Brandon Peat 19:17, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunate on the Xvt. However that may not matter to much since thier is still no final canon outcome on that game. (Admiral jolyon 19:21, 14 April 2008 (UTC))
 * True. So...what did you want to know? Brandon Peat 19:25, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * From what I have seen on your latest contributions, you can produce images of ships, and potentially other bits as well. I lack this ability to do so. I want to see how good you can be at improving articles on Wookieepedia. I have one for you. Industrial Complex. I made it myself but its not much. For one thing it lacks an image and maybe more. Can you improve it. There is a template for space stations. So that might be useful as well. When you are finished let me know so that I can have a look. (Admiral jolyon 19:40, 14 April 2008 (UTC)}
 * Cool. Right now I'm just doing a straight runthrough of XwA and taking pics as I go.  When I come across an Industrial Complex, I'll grab an image and get it up there.  Brandon Peat 19:43, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Roger that. Where are you exactly? If you have completed this game then I do have an Industrial Complex called VXO-33274. It's a Viraxo.
 * I'm currently finishing up the Prologue and Joining the Rebellion sections. I saw your mission regarding Corrupter recon and it looks good...once I hit that mission (which will be fairly soon) I'll make sure to get some images up there.  Brandon Peat 12:23, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Roger that. The next mission is a rescue mission from VTR-LX. I will see what I can do in that mission. (Admiral jolyon 12:48, 15 April 2008 (UTC))
 * I have a bunch of pictures from the two "Joining the Rebellion" missions, but very few of the ships in these missions have writeups; neither do the missions themselves. (Possibly because these are theorized to be simulations only, but I think the information should still be there.) If you wanted to do articles on these missions and their vessels I've got pictures ready to go. Brandon Peat 16:54, 15 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I have started on the first campaign which is "Clearing the way". The first battle was the Destruction of the Scythe convoy. you can begin there. As for joining the Rebellion, I haven't properly looked at those yet, I wanted to focus on the Alliance campaigns before the Azzameen Family buisiness missions.