Forum:CT Archive/Appearances revamp project

This is just a page to help keep track of some things in our site-wide revamp of the "Appearances" sections on OOU articles. See Forum:CT Archive/Appearances lists for more info. In short, we are wrapping current "Appearances" in App in order to cut down on TOC length and allow users to show/hide appearances at will.

Adding
I have written a script that Whistler will run in an attempt to convert most of our articles to the new layout. Articles that the bot cannot completely convert for one reason or another (typically sections named incorrectly, or additional sections) will be tagged with Appearances Needs Work directly under the  header. See Category:Appearances need work for a list of tagged articles. If you have manually fixed an article, please remove the "need work" template. Also being added on some articles is Merge New Continuity With Appearances, as we removed the "New continuity" section a long time ago.

There have also been several points raised regarding the template that can be discussed/voted upon further down the page. I didn't feel these warranted a full-fledged CT, however.

Pages to work on
Feel free to add any appropriate pages or categories that need work to this list:


 * Category:Star Wars media
 * Category:Multimedia projects
 * Category:Books (real-world)
 * Category:Games
 * Category:Comics

Show by default

 * 1) —Xwing328 (Talk) 02:19, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2)  Mauser  Comlink 02:23, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3)  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 12:22, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) Darth Trayus  Sith_Emblem.svg ( Trayus Academy ) 18:21, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Hide by default

 * 1) There's no reason to show by default. Most people looking at these articles are not going to want to look at the list or spend time looking for the "hide" button; they're probably just going to see a list they don't want to read and automatically scroll past it without even looking for a "hide" button. They should be hidden by default to save them that trouble, which was the whole point of the CT thread in the first place. Imp said it best on the CT page: "We should cater to our readers, not our hardcore list-loving editors." &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 02:46, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) The template is pointless if defaulted to show. --Imperialles 09:02, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) Per Jon and Imp. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg (Imperial Intelligence)  12:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) - Esjs (Talk) 19:47, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) Per everyone. -Thunderforge 04:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Displayed text
Currently, the template reads. That seems rather non-descriptive to me, whereas "Appearances sections" was rather redundant. Small detail, but any suggestions?

Suggestions

 * "By type" or "By category" (though the latter may be confusing with wiki categories)- Esjs (Talk) 20:43, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * "By type" sounds good to me. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 02:09, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Appearances TOC
Finally, a point was raised that if the table for the "Appearances" TOC was shown while the appearances themselves were hidden, clicking on the section links for the appearances would appear to do nothing. If I can find a fix for this, this section will become irrelevant, but until then, should the "Appearances" TOC table be shown/hidden along with the appearances or not?

Show/Hide with appearances

 * 1) It would probably be a bit confusing to someone that isn't aware of this bug, so show/hide with the appearances until a fix can be found. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 02:46, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Per Jonathan. --Imperialles 09:02, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) When people click on a link, they expect something to happen.- Esjs (Talk) 19:49, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) If no fix is found, this would be the most intuitive. -Thunderforge 04:50, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Always show

 * 1) —Xwing328 (Talk) 02:19, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2)  Mauser  Comlink 02:23, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) --Eyrezer 02:30, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) If only for superficial reasons, but my vote is here until someone brings up a life-shaking point. It's minor either way.  CC7567  (talk) 05:40, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 5)  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 12:25, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg (Imperial Intelligence)  12:27, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) Darth Trayus  Sith_Emblem.svg ( Trayus Academy ) 18:21, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

New subsections
The current App template follows our MOS/LG for the sections to include. However, many articles also have sections such as "Food and beverages," "Languages," and "The Force." Feel free to discuss whether or not to include parameters for sections such as these. —Xwing328 (Talk) 06:49, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Would it be possible to add these as optional parameters? Meaning that if they aren't included in the template, then they don't show up in the initial table of contents? I'd think that would be the best way to go about it, since not all articles would need them.  OLIOSTER  (talk) Imperial Emblem.svg 06:56, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Unless they're extremely plentiful, I don't think they constitute their own sections in the template. However, it looks like simply bolding "Languages" and listing them under it in the template works.  CC7567  (talk) 07:08, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Agree with CC. We can simply imitate them by bolding the headings.  Mauser  Comlink 07:20, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Discussion

 * I moved this to CT, because it seems like it should be here rather than Senate Hall, as there is a vote taking place in the topic.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 12:45, 7 July 2009 (UTC)