User talk:Jack Nebulax

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Blocked, again

 * You know, I'd get into the whole quality thing, because I don't think you have a leg to stand on there, but that's not even the question anymore. That's just what got me fed up enough with your nonsense to take action. Your sense of complete ownership of this wiki and blanket reversions of any changes to your edits without even looking at them are juvenile and unacceptable. You pick almost exclusively on anons or lesser-established users to revert, and when anyone puts up a fight you keep pushing, thinking that you'll keep going when they give up. You're not interested in being right, but in having the last word. If anyone does call you on it and put up serious resistance, you run off crying harassment and namecalling and poor poor picked-on me or you throw a hissyfit and leave . . . for a week. It's classic bullying behavior. I've had enough. The Jack Nebulax drama show is over. It's not about Parck. It's about your complete inability to get along with others and behave in a mature manner. It's about your using this wiki as a stage for your ego. It's about the fact that you're a chronic edit-warrer who has been called on it time and time again and each time you promise you'll change and you come back saying you changed and you'll try and you haven't changed a damn bit except for one day of contrite behavior, and then back into the swing of things. Enough. Enough. I told you to stop the edit-warring. You didn't. You've been blocked eight times, seven of them for edit warring and five of those within the last six months. You're not learning. Apparently, you can't learn. You're done. Crying and moaning looking after some sort of compromise won't help you. Your history has demonstrated that it's just enabling you. Havac 00:35, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

This is not personal. You save us a lot of work patrolling the RCs, and we seem to have compatible views on a number of issues, so I certainly don't have an overwhelming desire to kick you out. You may have forgotten that I was happy to vote for you for WotM back in 2006, and I have been in your camp on a number of consensus tracks and talk page discussions, and I do not regret that. But Havac's points are hard to argue against. I've watched the cycle in action for too long. You need to cease your constant efforts to have the last word or the top edit. You need to give anons the benefit of the doubt more often. And most of all, you need to understand that you are neither greater nor lower than any other user in the eyes of the community and its laws. Your tenure does not give you any special privilege. I have no particular desire to see that tenure end, so I have agreed with my fellow administrators on this compromise. Take this week to consider your position, and do not force us to take action again. The next time we do will be the last. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 18:59, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Because some people believe a permanent ban is not yet warranted, your block has been shortened from infinity to one week. This, I fear, is merely delaying the inevitable. When you return, which I know you will, your actions will be watched more closely. The very next edit war you get into, the very next personal attack you post, will be the end of your time here.

hello
hi im new.wookiepedia is great!!! Imperialwalker 23:00, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Welcome back, Jack
Hey, Jack, just wanted to say welcome back after that long ban.--Darthtyler (talk) (HSM RKY) 01:10, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I second that motion. Welcome back, Jack. Erik Pflueger [[Image:Galactic_Republic.JPG|20px]] 01:46, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Hopefully, the forum discussion will end soon. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 13:36, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You do understand, though, Jack, that even if the discussion turns out to be in your favor, they'll be watching you like a hawk now. As your friend, who genuinely likes you, who stood up for you in a crunch as best as I could given the circumstances, and who owes you the honest truth as I see it, I'm telling you this: the long knives will be out for you if you make the slightest misstep after this. Whatever it is they think you keep doing - and I've never experienced it because you and I treat each other on a different and more cordial level - you MUST stop it. Whatever new leaf they want you to turn, you MUST turn it. I won't be able to defend you if it should happen again, and it was a real challenge THIS time. And regardless, they'll be tightening the punishments for things like this; whatever happens, if you're not walking on eggshells with these people, you'll be getting bans of weeks or months. Or maybe the most outraged of them will finally get what they want and perma-ban you. They'll do it. I don't doubt that others, such as administrators or even your enemies, would have said the same thing in time, but I felt you needed to hear from your friend first. I DO have your best interest at heart here, and it's in your best interest to be allowed to stay. Therefore, it's in your best interest to fundamentally change your approach. Whatever this "always has to have the last word" things is about, it has to end. Whatever this "3RR repetition" thing is, it needs to stop. Because if not, they WILL NOT stay their hand again. You WILL be finished. Please consider that, if only for my sake. I've lost enough friends in my life recently, for various reasons; I don't want to lose you too. Erik Pflueger [[Image:Galactic_Republic.JPG|20px]] 16:17, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, Erik. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 17:19, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * what the heck did you do to get blocked for so long???? Imperialwalker 19:48, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I did too many wrong things. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 21:56, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Welcome back as well, Jack. I hope that you do change your ways, because I value you for your persistance in answering to talk pages and cleaning up articles. Unit 8311 10:07, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 16:30, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Regarding Grand Admiral Article
I noticed the addition of references to the Grand Admiral article and I think that puts it into GA territory. I'd be happy to support a nom for it if you'd like to offer it up for a vote. --School of Thrawn 101 05:34, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd definitely vote for it. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 13:32, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Jack

 * Hey jack I know this might be late but I dont really come here anymore but welcome back. Also I havent seen you at SW fanon but your article is now on the main page and thing are going well, but sadly Ive been blocked at SW fanon which will end at 5:27 am today. Well see ya just wanted to pop in and say hi, also I'm a admin and buericrate at the new transfanon wiki too just to let you know. well see ya. (Please leave responce on my SW fanon talk page since I'm way to lazy to check back here).Troyb(CIS ShadowFeed) contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 02:01, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Good to here from you, Troyb. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 00:01, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Its nice to hear from you to admiral. You know we should create an article together a SW fanon, something like an imperial or sith lord. We are such good friends yet weve done nothing together. Also I remember user:Rune Haako on my first day here, where is he anyway?Troyb(CIS ShadowFeed) contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 01:14, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * An article sounds good. We'll have to work on the details, though. As for User:Rune Haako, I haven't seen him around. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 12:55, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Voss Parck

 * May I remind you that this article is what got you in trouble in the first place? You've already been told to stay away from that article by an admin, and as far as I'm concerned it's for the best. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 20:18, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ataru, I did nothing wrong; therefore, I cannot be banned for my edits. In addition, this is a website that "anyone can edit"; therefore, being told by an admin to stay away from an article when I'm not doing anything wrong is against the principle about wikicities. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 21:35, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, in all fairness, I didn't actually look at the revisions, I was informed that it was the same kind of controversial edit that had gotten you into this mess in the first place, and I was merely trying to forestall an edit war. Second, not everyone has the same view about following policy or interpreting policy as I do. Third, um, there have been numerous cases where admins have asked users to stay off talk pages and articles because of edit warring. Just ask Silly Dan. Or, for the flip side, Tnu. Anyone can edit anything, but the stability and civility of the community must be maintained. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:39, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ataru, do you really think I'd suddenly go back to my old self now? &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 23:08, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Jack, I've already spoken to Ataru on your behalf regarding this matter, explaining the nature of the edits, and that they were good ones. As a result, he looked over the edits and concluded you did nothing wrong. He's already said he was reacting on impulse, both to me and to you. That's a noble and honest concession coming from an admin. Give something back to him now, and at least concede that you understand where he was coming from when he did it. It's not a question of whether he thinks you'd backslide or not; there have been any number of others who have backslid and given him good reason to be cautious with everyone, not just you. It's not his job to measure anyone's intent; it's to maintain order. And you'd have to admit, going right back to the same page that got the whole fracas started can be seen by others as provocative, whether it's meant to be or not. That's not smart to do when feelings are still sore. My advice as a friend: call it a lesson learned and just let the matter drop. Erik Pflueger [[Image:Galactic_Republic.JPG|20px]] 00:32, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not trying to be rude, but Ataru should have checked my edits before he started this topic here. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 14:06, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ataru's only human, Jack. And after what the Pedia's been going through for more than a week now, you're not in a position to take the moral high ground. Let it go. No more comments, no more "last words." Just please be humble and drop it. Erik Pflueger [[Image:Galactic_Republic.JPG|20px]] 14:41, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Erik, I'm not creating a conflict here. I was simply stating that I did nothing wrong on the Parck article. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 14:42, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I know you're not, and I know you didn't do anything wrong with your edits. I'm just saying that it was just poor judgment to go to the Parck page even if you ARE blameless, especially after what's bveen happening, and you really need to just put it to bed. That's all. Between the two of us, for the first time, I'm actually seeing this thing that others have complained about, this so-called "need to have the last word." And I have to say, it's not the Jack I know and love. There's no need to defend yourself every time I say something. As I've said before, just be gracious to Ataru and call the matter over. And then we'll all move on. Happy-happy, joy-joy. :P Erik Pflueger [[Image:Galactic_Republic.JPG|20px]] 15:46, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Erik, you have to understand this: I settled this with Ataru on IRC, and I have to say that you seem to be taking this a bit too seriously. Keep in mind that I'm not trying to be mean; we're friends, Erik, and I appreciate that. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 19:33, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Jack, considering that I've been on the front lines for a week or more, defending you with what little ammunition I had against a far louder and stronger number that wanted your head, can you blame me for being serious? I meant everything I said when I welcomed you back: they WILL take you out permanently if there's one nmore problem. I'm being serious now because we ARE friends, and I appreciate THAT. I want you to be able to stay. Better me being a pain in the butt than you being permabanned, because those seem to be the only options. Erik Pflueger [[Image:Galactic_Republic.JPG|20px]] 20:42, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey, I never said you were a pain in the butt. ;) And Erik, you can relax, because I'm not going to screw up. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 23:13, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

GA Core Forces Edit
Thanks for editing that anon bit in the Core Forces article. I saw that this morning on my way to work and hoped that someone would fix it before I got off. Kudos! AdmiralNick22 01:10, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem. And if he puts it back in without providing a source, I'll remove it again. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 01:11, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, it seemed kind of a silly edit. The only compromise I can think of it to change it from saying "Defense Fleet" to "Defense Force". That way the more encompasing "Defense Force" leaves no doubt that starfighters and possibly some army units also joined the Core Forces. It may not be a important distinction (given the fact that authors seem to use both interchangably), but it may prevent the anon from doing it in the future. AdmiralNick22
 * I suppose that would work. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 01:18, 6 July 2007 (UTC)