Forum:CT Archive/Multiple character names in infobox for characters with both a normal name and a "Darth" name

I thought it might be a good idea to bring up the possibility of using multiple character names in infoboxes for characters with more than one canonical name. I propose this: characters with both a normal given name (such as Anakin Skywalker) and a Sith name that usually has Darth in it (such as Darth Vader) would have both names listed in the infobox under the picture, separated by a slash, with the "final status" name (the article name) listed first (Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader for example). If the character has any nicknames or other alternate names, these wouldn't be listed; only the "normal" name and the "Sith" name. This would apply to Anakin, as well as Palpatine, Dooku, Jacen, Revan, Kreia, and all sorts of other characters.

I narrowed my initial idea down to characters with a "Darth" identity in order to make the policy easier to follow and to avoid the potential for ridiculousness (so that we don't have nonsense like Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader/Ani/Skyguy, etc. or end up listing all of Winter's alter egos in her infobox).

Support

 * I'm not sure if users who aren't eligible to vote are even eligible to create CT measures to begin with. But your current mainspace edit total of 2 isn't enough for voting eligibility. Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:37, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if users who aren't eligible to vote are even eligible to create CT measures to begin with. But your current mainspace edit total of 2 isn't enough for voting eligibility. Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:37, December 2, 2009 (UTC)


 * 1) I actually like this idea. We already do something similar with clone troopers by giving both number and nickname when both are known (see CC-1119, CC-1138, CT-26-6958, and CT-6734 for some FA examples). Also, sometimes a character has their article at their Sith name, yet they were known by their regular name for most of their life, and I feel the infobox should reflect that (Darth Caedus comes to mind here, as he was known as Caedus for only a few months but as Jacen Solo for the vast majority of his life). Putting multiple names in the  field should be limited to only Sith names and clone nicknames, though. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 06:20, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) As the creator of the current policy ;)  Mauser  Comlink 05:10, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) I think the infobox should list the title of the article as the main name under the image, which is defined by the naming policy. Adding other ones is unnecessary as the intro will already state the other names they have gone by. If anything could be added to the infobox it would be an "alias" field. But adding "Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader" is both unnecessary and wouldn't look as good in my opinion either. Grunny  ( Talk ) 10:38, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) Per Grunny. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 10:47, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) Per Grunny. - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 10:56, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 12:17, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) Weak oppose, but per Grunny. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 18:55, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Discussion

 * I'm guessing that Wookieepedians don't want to prioritize Anakin over Vader; it's just that, due to the nature of wikis, we have to choose one over the other, and Anakin is better in the interest of canon. So, I think it would be good if we could do as much as we could to give multiple incarnations of the same characters equal treatment without sacrificing the quality or readability of articles; this would comply with, and reinforce, a neutral point of view IMO. --Darthrai 04:54, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * It has nothing to do with the nature of wikis. It has everything to do with the fact that the majority of users decided that's how it would be. They – to use your words – prioritized Anakin over Vader. It was the choice of the community. Also, this has nothing to do with NPOV. NPOV is about not being biased. Choosing to use a character's last known primary name is not biased. Anakin died as Anakin and was Anakin as a ghost. Jacen died as Caedus. Etc. There's no NPOV violation there. - Brandon Rhea Alliance Starbird.svg (talk) 05:07, December 2, 2009 (UTC)