Wookieepedia:Inquisitorius/Log/2017 September 23

[23:19:44]  Before we start, I'd like to propose a moratorium for this meeting only on probing anything that isn't on the FAN page right now [23:19:53]  We have a shitload of stuff backed up since February [23:20:01]  I don't want to overburden ourselves [23:20:06]  Agreed [23:20:06]  And we still have a whole page of FAs with redlinks [23:20:13]  That we started working on once upon a time [23:20:17] sounds good to me [23:20:20]  except the redlink ones, you mean? [23:20:34]  I don't want to probe anything that isn't on the FAN meeting page currently, is what I mean [23:20:34]  I need to step away for two minutes, if I miss anything I've left notes [23:20:35]  Brb [23:20:40]  ok [23:20:47] Makes sense. [23:20:48]  That includes not probing things in the maintenance bin [23:20:55]  We'll give them until next meeting [23:21:10]  Ok [23:21:16]  We'll start with things from last meeting [23:21:24]  http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Orto_Plutonia/Legends [23:21:25] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Battle of Orto Plutonia | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [23:21:33] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Battle_of_Orto_Plutonia/Legends [23:21:34] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Wookieepedia:Inq/Battle of Orto Plutonia/Legends | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [23:21:59] <Ratlin> Frankly, AV didn't clear up anything with what he was trying to say there [23:22:39] Yeah, I don't have that book to check either. [23:22:41] <Ratlin> Even if the Legends/Canon status of this book is debatable, the author's article or someone needs to look into it and determine what to do, which isn't happening [23:22:54] <Ratlin> In that absence of that certainty, I say we kill it [23:23:01] I agree, kill. [23:23:05] <Ratlin> Anyone has had six months to look into it [23:23:17] <Ratlin> the article's author, I mean [23:23:22] <Ratlin> I must be dyslexic [23:23:29] <Imperators> nobody cared, kill [23:23:35] Kill [23:23:47] <Ratlin> SE votes kill in his absence [23:23:52] I assumed you were on your phone or something. [23:24:04] <Ratlin> Wait, SE actually voted extend [23:24:12] <Supreme_Emperor> Back, sorry about that [23:24:19] <Ratlin> SE, are you extending or killing or keeping? [23:24:29] <Supreme_Emperor> That was only if it was up in the air, I'll vote kill [23:24:33] <Culator|Away> I find FFG canon confusing, and when I'm confused I want to kill things. So kill. [23:24:41] <Ratlin> Kill is it [23:24:46] <Ratlin> Battle of Orto Plutonia/Legends killed [23:24:51] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nathema [23:24:52] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Nathema | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [23:24:55] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Nathema [23:24:56] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Wookieepedia:Inq/Nathema | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [23:25:22] <Ratlin> Still unsourced sections [23:25:27] <Ratlin> Which is amazing to me [23:25:29] <Ratlin> But whatever [23:25:29] <Culator|Away> Automatic kill. [23:25:31] <Ratlin> Kill [23:25:32] Kill [23:25:35] <Supreme_Emperor> Kill [23:25:36] Kill [23:25:41] <Imperators> kill [23:25:47] <Ratlin> Nathema killed [23:25:53] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Riiken [23:25:55] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Riiken | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [23:25:57] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Riiken [23:25:59] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Wookieepedia:Inq/Riiken | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [23:26:18] <Ratlin> Kasra did something, but there's still issues [23:26:27] <Ratlin> Firstly, there's a redlink [23:26:41] <Ratlin> Maybe someone here can kill it? [23:27:00] <Ratlin> Secondly, I think he should mention his military uniform in the Equipment section [23:27:10] <Ratlin> He wears a shawl or whatever, which is pretty brazen [23:27:13] <Ratlin> That goes to personality [23:27:26] <Imperators> haha [23:27:27] I'm not sure who that is. That's someone really minor. [23:27:39] <Supreme_Emperor> I'm not overly familiar with the game [23:27:49] I think all of the Onderonian officers wear the shawl. I think it is part of the uniform. [23:27:57] <Ratlin> Fair enough [23:27:57] <Culator|Away> Chances are I already have a screenshot for that unidentified major, so I can probably get a page up in short order. But the rest of it, eh. [23:28:06] <Ratlin> I'd still like to see the uniform mentioned like we do for Imperial officers [23:28:13] <Culator|Away> If I'd been paying attention the last few... months, I could have saved this. [23:28:41] <Culator|Away> So yeah, I'd say extend on this one. [23:28:47] <Ratlin> Extend [23:28:48] I'm okay with extend [23:28:52] <Imperators> extend [23:28:53] <Supreme_Emperor> I'm good with extending [23:28:55] Extend then. [23:29:10] <Ratlin> Riiken extended [23:29:17] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CC-5869/Legends [23:29:18] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: CC-5869 | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [23:29:21] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/CC-5869/Legends [23:29:22] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Wookieepedia:Inq/CC-5869/Legends | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [23:29:44] <Ratlin> Nothing seems to have done [23:29:46] <Ratlin> been* [23:29:51] Kill [23:29:52] Kill [23:29:55] <Ratlin> Kill [23:29:58] <Supreme_Emperor> Kill [23:30:11] <Imperators> kill [23:30:18] <Culator|Away> CWA was such a piece of garbage. [23:30:20] <Culator|Away> Kill. [23:30:23] <Ratlin> CC-5869/Legends killed [23:30:28] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Atrivis_sector [23:30:29] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Atrivis sector | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [23:30:32] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Atrivis_sector [23:30:33] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Wookieepedia:Inq/Atrivis sector | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [23:30:52] http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Atrivis_sector&diff=7125668&oldid=6928349 [23:30:53] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Atrivis sector | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [23:31:00] <Ratlin> Eyrezer says he did stuff [23:31:02] <Ratlin> Looking it over [23:31:51] <Ratlin> I have a few dating issues [23:32:26] <Imperators> backup links need to be fixed [23:32:37] The BTS is partially sourced. [23:32:41] <Ratlin> I'm text-searching through all the ABYs, so bear with me [23:33:02] Seemingly at random. [23:33:14] <Ratlin> Ok, I think there's four ABY dates that have no sourcing [23:33:21] <Culator|Away> Well, add the new issues to the review page and extend the probe. It's certainly changed enough that we can't just summarily execute it. [23:33:25] <Ratlin> If I can remember them all... [23:33:31] <Ratlin> Right, we'll extend it for these reasons [23:33:33] <Imperators> image caption punctuation [23:33:39] <Supreme_Emperor> Definitely extend [23:33:39] backup links for some of the citations [23:33:43] <Ratlin> There's a 1 ABY sourced to Rogue Squadron N64, which doesn't work [23:33:56] <Ratlin> There's a 9 ABY sourced to Last Command or something, which doesn't work [23:34:11] <Ratlin> There was a 28 ABY or something sourced to...something [23:34:28] <Ratlin> Basically, any date in this article not reffed to the Atlas needs a note [23:34:29] <Imperators> aaaaaand there's infobox-exclusive info [23:34:45] The BTS needs to be fully sourced as well. [23:35:17] <Imperators> heavy extend [23:35:22] <Ratlin> Ok, all of these issues will be added to the review page [23:35:24] <Ratlin> Extend [23:35:25] Extend [23:35:25] <Supreme_Emperor> Extend [23:36:13] extend [23:36:21] <Culator|Away> ^^ [23:36:27] <Ratlin> Atrivis sector extended [23:36:32] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Agen_Kolar/Legends [23:36:33] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Agen Kolar | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [23:36:37] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Agen_Kolar/Legends [23:36:39] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Wookieepedia:Inq/Agen Kolar/Legends | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [23:37:04] <Ratlin> Nothing has changed [23:37:09] <Supreme_Emperor> Kill [23:37:10] <Imperators> yay [23:37:10] kill [23:37:12] Kill [23:37:12] <Imperators> kill [23:37:14] <Ratlin> Kill [23:37:44] <Ratlin> Culator? [23:37:49] <Culator|Away> Yes, kill. [23:37:54] <Ratlin> Agen Kolar/Legends killed [23:38:00] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/10-4TO [23:38:01] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: 10-4TO | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [23:38:04] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/10-4TO [23:38:05] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Wookieepedia:Inq/10-4TO | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [23:38:06] <Culator|Away> I'm just taking a second to remember the insanity of TFU. [23:38:08] <Culator|Away> "Kazdan Paratus is an insane former Jedi who built a facsimile Jedi Council out of junk in Star Wars: The Force Unleashed including a replica of Agen Kolar." [23:38:15] <Culator|Away> Yeeeeeah. [23:38:41] <Ratlin> I guess the Biography never heard of subsectioning [23:38:46] That biography is insane. [23:39:02] <Imperators> holy [23:39:07] <Ratlin> More subsections, more quotes [23:39:30] <Ratlin> I'm not sure the intro really needs to be /that/ long [23:39:34] <Imperators> 4 duplicate links [23:39:41] <Ratlin> Two solid paragraphs would probably suffice [23:39:48] yeah, the intro length is pretty iffy [23:40:00] <Culator|Away> Why do we always come up with more issues at the meeting and not on the review page WELL before the meeting? [23:40:04] <Supreme_Emperor> Definitely subsectioning and cutting down some of that intro [23:40:10] <Ratlin> Because the Inq used to suck [23:40:16] <Ratlin> Now it's not sucking :P [23:40:16] <Imperators> 19 BBY probably can't be sourced to the novel [23:40:17] <Supreme_Emperor> Next meeting we will Culator :P [23:40:37] I think that 18.8 BBY date is exclusive to the intro. [23:40:48] <Culator|Away> This reminds me of a mofference. "Take it to the consensus track!" [23:40:50] <Ratlin> I'm not sure that can even be sourced to that novel [23:40:56] <Ratlin> Does the book actually say 18.8? [23:40:58] <Ratlin> That's pretty specific [23:41:16] <Imperators> there should be an affiliation category [23:41:21] <Ratlin> It probably says something like eight months after ROTS [23:41:26] <Ratlin> Which needs to be ref-noted [23:41:26] I'll bet it is from the companion. [23:41:31] <Supreme_Emperor> It's been a while since I read it [23:41:57] <Ratlin> Ok, extend for all these reasons [23:42:00] <Supreme_Emperor> Yeah, 18.8 is exclusive [23:42:05] <Supreme_Emperor> Extend [23:42:06] extend [23:42:08] <Imperators> extend [23:42:11] <Culator|Away> ^ [23:42:13] extend [23:42:35] <Ratlin> 10-4TO extended [23:42:41] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/11-4D/Legends [23:42:42] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: 11-4D | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [23:42:45] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/11-4D/Legends [23:42:46] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Wookieepedia:Inq/11-4D/Legends | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [23:43:04] <Ratlin> This is a good intro length [23:43:18] <Imperators> there's a redlink [23:43:20] I still see a redlink. [23:43:21] <Ratlin> Paragraphs are pretty [23:43:42] <Supreme_Emperor> What's the current redlink? [23:43:53] <Ratlin> All of the BBY dates are sourced to Plagueis [23:43:56] <Ratlin> Is that doable? [23:43:57] <Ratlin> I've never read that [23:44:04] <Imperators> internet citation needs [23:44:12] <Imperators> something something Bothan something [23:44:14] I haven't read it either. [23:44:31] <Supreme_Emperor> I don't have the book handy offhand, I can't recall [23:44:50] <Imperators> everything except 33 BBY can be [23:44:58] <Imperators> 33 BBY is guesswork, I'd say [23:45:11] <Ratlin> Ok, we'll require a ref note for that one then [23:45:21] <Ratlin> So, extend for all of these reasons [23:45:22] <Imperators> extend anyway [23:45:26] extend [23:45:27] <Ratlin> But otherwise this has been by far the prettiest looking article [23:45:27] extend [23:45:27] <Supreme_Emperor> Extend [23:45:33] per Ratlin [23:45:38] It's newer. [23:45:39] <Imperators> still has issues [23:46:00] <Ratlin> Culator? [23:46:08] <Culator|Away> Was the redlink there before or after the review? [23:46:16] <Culator|Away> Feh, never mind. Extend. [23:46:20] <Ratlin> 11-4D/Legends extended [23:46:26] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/3D-4X_administrative_droid [23:46:27] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: 3D-4X administrative droid | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [23:46:30] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/3D-4X_administrative_droid [23:46:31] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Wookieepedia:Inq/3D-4X administrative droid | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [23:47:30] <Imperators> backup link [23:47:38] <Imperators> [23:47:43] <Ratlin> Ok, I know not all of those BBY dates cannot be sourced as such [23:47:51] <Ratlin> There's at least one that can't [23:47:53] <Ratlin> Probably more [23:48:13] <Ratlin> The Han Solo and the Hollow Moon of Khorya I believe comes from a DH Boards comment from R. Stradley [23:48:28] <Ratlin> So all those dates should be examined [23:48:47] <Ratlin> I, like, cannot talk today [23:48:48] a cursory glance from me reveals no other issues [23:48:52] <Ratlin> But you know what I mean :p [23:49:06] <Ratlin> Ok, extend for all these reasons [23:49:16] <Supreme_Emperor> Extend [23:49:18] Extend [23:49:19] <Imperators> okay, extend [23:49:21] <Culator|Away> Extend. [23:49:22] extend [23:49:38] <Ratlin> 3D-4X administrative droid extended [23:49:42] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/8t88 [23:49:43] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: 8t88 | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [23:49:45] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/8t88 [23:49:46] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Wookieepedia:Inq/8t88 | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [23:49:47] <Culator|Away> But sometimes, just sometimes, I wish we were more like wikia wanted us to be. That is, crappier. [23:50:11] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:8t88 [23:50:13] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Talk:8t88 | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [23:50:17] <Ratlin> Please see JMAS's comment there [23:50:44] <Imperators> reasonable [23:50:46] no redlinks there then [23:51:03] <Culator|Away> Sensible. [23:51:04] <Supreme_Emperor> Seems reasonable to me [23:51:09] <Ratlin> That 5 ABY date needs to be reffed to something, though [23:51:18] <Imperators> and backup links, of course. [23:51:23] <Ratlin> I know I went through this with other articles from this source [23:51:30] <Ratlin> I believe we sourced it to NEC [23:51:35] Features needs to be renamed to Equipment as per WP:LG, I believe [23:51:41] <Imperators> and the JCF citation needs work [23:52:23] <Ratlin> I think some of those Wizards adventures are actually Appearances, correct me if I'm wrong [23:52:29] <Imperators> meh, if there's audio quote category, there should also be [23:52:34] <Ratlin> If they're RPG adventures, they're Appearances [23:52:38] <Imperators> yeah [23:52:39] I think all of them are. [23:52:53] <Supreme_Emperor> Yeah, they should be [23:52:59] <Imperators> BTS needs to be sourced [23:53:00] <Ratlin> The Fact File needs to specify the section [23:53:16] <Imperators> image caption punctuation [23:53:20] extend extend [23:53:26] <Ratlin> Extend for these things [23:53:27] Extend [23:53:28] <Supreme_Emperor> Extend [23:53:37] <Imperators> extend [23:53:46] brb [23:54:23] <Ratlin> Culator? [23:54:28] <Culator|Away> e [23:54:28] <Culator|Away> x [23:54:28] <Culator|Away> t [23:54:28] <Culator|Away> e [23:54:28] <Culator|Away> n [23:54:29] <Culator|Away> d [23:54:38] <Ratlin> 8t88 extended [23:54:42] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Agents_of_Chaos_Duology [23:54:43] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Agents of Chaos Duology | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [23:54:46] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Agents_of_Chaos_Duology_(second_review) [23:55:50] cursory glance reveals lack of backup links but nothing else [23:55:56] <Ratlin> I think he cleverly avoided needing to cite ABY dates by pipelinking all of them [23:56:16] <Ratlin> I believe the novels can be sourced to the generic "seven years before," etc. [23:56:47] <Ratlin> So just extend to add backup links to external link citations [23:57:02] <Supreme_Emperor> I'm not seeing any other issues at first glance [23:57:04] <Supreme_Emperor> Extend [23:57:07] <Ratlin> Extend [23:57:16] <Imperators> I wonder if any of those external links need any further work [23:57:19] extend [23:57:34] Extend [23:57:41] <Imperators> extend [23:57:42] also what's with that upper navbox? is it really necessary? [23:57:48] <Ratlin> Imperators, if you see anything and feel like going through them, you can always add to them the review page after this meeting [23:57:48] <Culator|Away> Oh, that's a thing now? Well, then. Extendomatic. [23:58:18] <Ratlin> Sorry, which one, ecks? [23:58:28] <Ratlin> The "Agents of Chaos Duology"? [23:58:38] yeah, the one with two links [23:58:44] they're both in the NJO box as well [23:58:44] <Ratlin> It's pretty redundant to the one below it [23:58:54] Yeah, I'd kill that. [23:58:56] <Ratlin> I'm in favor of its removal [23:58:57] <Imperators> yeah [23:59:18] <Supreme_Emperor> It's unnecessary [23:59:18] <Ratlin> Ok, extend for all these things [23:59:24] <Ratlin> Extend [23:59:26] <Supreme_Emperor> Extend [23:59:35] extend [23:59:39] <Imperators> extend again? [23:59:48] extend [23:59:48] hyperextend [23:59:49] <Ratlin> Oh, right [23:59:51] <Ratlin> Hyperextend [23:59:53] <Ratlin> per ecks [00:00:01] <Ratlin> Agents of Chaos duology hyperextended [00:00:07] Ow [00:00:08] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Anointed_People [00:00:09] <Imperators> and then you wonder why the Inqmoots run long :P [00:00:09] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Anointed People | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [00:00:14] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Anointed_People [00:00:15] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Wookieepedia:Inq/Anointed People | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [00:00:39] Ref 9 is lazy [00:01:10] <Imperators> the CSWE refs are somewhat lazy, too [00:01:11] <Ratlin> None of those BBY/ABY dates can be referenced as such [00:01:13] <Culator|Away> umwhat [00:01:38] <Imperators> ref 3 and ref 4, too [00:01:41] <Ratlin> Star Wars Miniatures Battle needs to use the template to specify set [00:01:52] <Ratlin> Ref 8 [00:01:59] <Imperators> and please no italics in quotes [00:02:10] <Imperators> and please source BTS [00:02:22] Ref 7 is just wrong. [00:02:38] <Imperators> yup [00:02:39] Sourcing 19 BBY to ROTS? [00:02:46] <Ratlin> The last body image should crop out the border [00:02:50] <Ratlin> It could be turned into a square image [00:03:11] <Ratlin> Caption punctuation too [00:03:16] <Imperators> redundant categorization [00:03:40] <Imperators> I think the punctuations fine, though [00:03:46] <Imperators> *punctuation's [00:03:53] <Ratlin> Yeah, you're right [00:03:56] <Imperators> but extend pls [00:04:03] <Ratlin> Extend for all these reasons [00:04:12] <Supreme_Emperor> Extend [00:04:20] nothing gets kept today [00:04:21] extend [00:04:28] <Imperators> nothing will [00:04:38] Extend for all of the stuff. [00:04:55] <Culator|Away> FINE JUST FINISH THIS ALREADY I HAVE BEER THAT NEEDS DRINKING [00:05:05] <Ratlin> Anointed People extended [00:05:09] <Ratlin> We're almost finished [00:05:09] <Imperators> you don't multitask? [00:05:14] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bail_Antilles_(Galactic_Alliance) [00:05:18] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Bail_Antilles_(Galactic_Alliance) [00:05:21] <Culator|Away> I can only do so much and still type. [00:05:38] <Ratlin> Can any of those ABY dates be soured to Legacy? [00:05:41] <Ratlin> It's possible [00:05:43] <Imperators> maybe [00:06:00] I never read Legacy. [00:06:01] <Imperators> yay, backup link [00:06:14] "Bail Antilles was introduced to Star Wars canon by John Ostrander and Jan Duursema" [00:06:21] <Imperators> comics sometimes provide hard dates on the front... you probably all know that. [00:06:23] <Supreme_Emperor> Each comic does indicate the date at the beginning, though not for flashback moments [00:06:43] <Imperators> good point about the flashback, SE [00:06:58] <Ratlin> I say we extend anyways to make him confirm it [00:06:59] <Supreme_Emperor> Flashbacks I can't recall if it indicates when they are occurring [00:07:14] <Supreme_Emperor> Definite extend [00:07:15] <Ratlin> This became an FA before we ever enforced the needs to ref dates properly [00:07:20] <Ratlin> So there's no guarantee of its accuracy [00:07:25] <Ratlin> the need* [00:07:35] extends are cheap, but otherwise this article is in good shape [00:07:37] <Imperators> extend [00:07:41] <Ratlin> Extend [00:07:46] Extend [00:08:15] <Ratlin> Bail Antilles (Galactic Alliance) extended [00:08:22] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sagoro_Autem [00:08:23] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Sagoro Autem | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [00:08:26] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Sagoro_Autem [00:08:27] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Wookieepedia:Inq/Sagoro Autem | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [00:08:52] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Sagoro_Autem_(second_review) is the correct review page [00:08:57] redlink issue is fixed [00:08:59] <Ratlin> Thanks, ecks [00:09:12] <Supreme_Emperor> ref dates look good at first glance [00:09:19] <Ratlin> For the record, since someone is likely going to complain about their article being extended for this, I plan on going through all of our FAs and GAs in future meetings and examining them for proper date referencing [00:09:25] <Ratlin> So we're going to get you sooner or later [00:09:30] <Imperators> yay, backup links [00:09:38] yeah, this one shows good promise [00:10:01] <Imperators> Ratlin speaks the Truth [00:10:10] Dare we... keep it? [00:10:15] <Ratlin> Wait [00:10:17] <Ratlin> I have something [00:10:19] <Supreme_Emperor> My god, do we have something [00:10:22] <Imperators> backup links [00:10:22] <Ratlin> Opening up an archive link to check [00:10:23] <Supreme_Emperor> Well nope :P [00:10:49] <Ratlin> I don't think any of the dating works... [00:10:53] <Ratlin> The referencing, I mean [00:11:11] <Ratlin> 42 BBY can't be sourced straight to that HNN article [00:11:14] <Imperators> lol, how can BBy date be referenced to HNN [00:11:16] <Ratlin> HNN used GrS dating at best [00:11:22] <Imperators> kill [00:11:24] <Ratlin> The translation from GrS to BBY needs to be explained [00:11:37] <Supreme_Emperor> I thought HNN articles indicated BBY [00:11:38] <Ratlin> Or whatever the case is there [00:11:45] <Imperators> no [00:11:45] <Supreme_Emperor> I might be thinking of something else though [00:11:48] <Ratlin> It uses GrS [00:11:52] <Ratlin> Look in the article title bar [00:11:53] <Supreme_Emperor> Gotcha [00:11:56] <Ratlin> 13:5:16 [00:12:00] <Ratlin> Year 13 is apparently 42 BBY [00:12:04] <Ratlin> But that needs to be explained [00:12:18] <Culator|Away> [00:08] <@Ratlin> For the record, since someone is likely going to complain about their article being extended for this, I plan on going through all of our FAs and GAs in future meetings and examining them for proper date referencing [00:12:23] <Culator|Away> https://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/John+adams_f45055_5046111.png [00:12:40] heh [00:12:40] <Ratlin> I'm willing to suffer the consequences [00:13:06] <Ratlin> So since we have at least one lacking date ref, I'd suggest examining all of them [00:13:06] <Supreme_Emperor> XD [00:13:11] <Imperators> btw [00:13:16] <Supreme_Emperor> Lets extend [00:13:18] * exiledjedi pushes the button. [00:13:24] <Imperators> sourcing proper names like "Grand Convocation Chamber," to just the comic [00:13:24] * ecks tend [00:13:25] <Supreme_Emperor> Then we can do a more in depth check [00:13:35] <Supreme_Emperor> ^ XD [00:13:51] <Ratlin> Extend for all of these [00:13:53] <Imperators> extend [00:13:56] <Supreme_Emperor> Extend [00:13:58] <Culator|Away> EXTEND ALL THE THINGS [00:14:16] Extend [00:14:35] <Ratlin> Sagoro Autem extended [00:14:41] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lobar_Aybock [00:14:42] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Lobar Aybock | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [00:14:45] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Lobar_Aybock [00:14:46] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Wookieepedia:Inq/Lobar Aybock | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [00:15:14] <Culator|Away> The inadequately pink Calian. [00:15:20] Oh yay, Rocky Balboa in Star Wars. [00:15:44] <Ratlin> The Databank backup link needs to be amended to specify an archive date [00:15:49] <Ratlin> Because it's a 404 at present [00:15:59] <Imperators> yes yes backup links [00:16:12] <Ratlin> But that 2 BBY date absolutely cannot be sourced to the Databakn [00:16:18] <Ratlin> I know Marvel didn't use BBY [00:16:23] I'll fix the 404s [00:16:42] <Supreme_Emperor> ref 4 is no good [00:16:43] <Imperators> all the ones mentioned in this meeting? :P [00:16:48] <Ratlin> 2 ABY date* [00:17:08] <Ratlin> Does anyone have Fists of Ion still? [00:17:11] <Supreme_Emperor> and you beat me to the marvel aby date :P [00:17:33] <Imperators> there's a Suvudu link to it, Tope [00:17:44] <Ratlin> Thanks [00:17:52] <Imperators> or whatever http://www.unboundworlds.com/2012/10/star-wars-shorts-fists-of-ion/ [00:17:53] <Ratlin> I'm checking it for dates [00:17:57] I see a lot of GrS dates. [00:18:12] *A GrS date [00:18:14] <Ratlin> Yeah [00:18:28] <Ratlin> The GrS date either needs to be used outright or a ref note needs to explain the translation [00:18:32] <Ratlin> This isn't self-sourcing [00:18:38] <Imperators> italics in quotes [00:18:54] <Supreme_Emperor> Extend that [00:19:05] <Ratlin> Extend f [00:19:07] <Ratlin> or that [00:19:09] <Imperators> extend [00:19:11] * ecks tend [00:19:18] Extend [00:19:20] <Culator|Away> tend to ecks [00:19:32] <Ratlin> Lobar Aybock extended [00:19:34] <Ratlin> Last one [00:19:36] <Imperators> omg so close [00:19:38] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Daye_Azur-Jamin [00:19:39] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Daye Azur-Jamin | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [00:19:42] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Daye_Azur-Jamin [00:19:43] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Wookieepedia:Inq/Daye Azur-Jamin | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [00:20:10] <Imperators> there's two eras in infobox, but four era icons [00:20:25] <Ratlin> The WEG citation(s) should specify an archive date [00:20:27] <Culator|Away> Hobo With A Lightsaber [00:20:45] <Ratlin> And they should be checked for ABY dates [00:20:46] <Imperators> you mean Wizards citations, right? [00:20:57] <Ratlin> I'm not looking through all HTTP 302 response crawl errors [00:21:03] <Ratlin> Yeah, WOTC* [00:21:23] <Ratlin> I'm pretty sure WOTC doesn't say 29 ABY or whatever [00:21:29] <Imperators> it's simple, all the external links need to be checked for working backup links [00:21:44] <Ratlin> And then use those working backup links to check and fix dates [00:21:47] <Supreme_Emperor> I doubt the Wizards date ref is good [00:21:50] <Imperators> is applicable [00:21:52] <Ratlin> There's a 5 ABY sourced to CSWE [00:21:55] <Ratlin> I don't think so [00:22:11] I have folder full of page bookmarks of just my articles to check for that, Imperators. [00:22:12] <Imperators> BTS needs to be fully sourced [00:22:14] <Supreme_Emperor> All the backups I'm trying are getting HTTP 302 [00:22:51] <Ratlin> Ok, extend for all this [00:22:53] <Ratlin> Extend [00:23:11] <Imperators> check for TalesCite, you mean, EJ? [00:23:13] <Imperators> extend [00:23:14] <Ratlin> Those WOTC articles might be Appearances, for the record [00:23:25] No, missing backup links. [00:23:28] <Supreme_Emperor> Extend [00:23:31] Extend [00:23:34] <Culator|Away> ^ [00:23:57] <Ratlin> Daye Azur-Jammin whatever extended [00:24:04] <Imperators> oh, also maybe subsectioning [00:24:11] <Ratlin> Moving on to new articles [00:24:13] <Ratlin> There are only two [00:24:19] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chak_Fel [00:24:20] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Chak Fel | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [00:24:22] <Ratlin> Chak Fel - Manual of style issues at the end of the biography and the intro. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 00:30, September 13, 2017 (UTC) [00:24:50] <Ratlin> You know, we've warned Hanzo about giving us insufficient probation reasons [00:24:57] <Ratlin> We call it being Hanzoed [00:25:08] <Ratlin> I have no idea what he's talking about MOS issues in the intro [00:25:14] <Imperators> ^ [00:25:22] <Ratlin> We don't have time to be searching through the end of the article to find stuff [00:25:26] <Ratlin> If you have specific issues, list them [00:25:32] <Ratlin> Otherwise, we agreed we're not going to probe for this stuff [00:25:42] <Imperators> "He had certainly died"? Hanzo could have given us the quote(s) [00:26:12] <Ratlin> MOS is very specific stuff [00:26:16] <Ratlin> Like spelling, etc. [00:26:18] <Ratlin> You need to point that out to us [00:26:22] <Ratlin> Agree to no probe? [00:26:24] <Imperators> ref 15 needs template [00:26:31] <Culator|Away> It's like when someone takes a car to the mechanic and says 'it makes a noise.' Well, what kind of noise? 'The kind it shouldn't be making.' Where does it come from? 'Inside the car.' [00:26:41] <Supreme_Emperor> At first glance I'm not noticing any other issues [00:26:45] *cue date references missing* [00:26:50] <Imperators> image captions [00:27:01] <Ratlin> Ref 14 should use a template too [00:27:09] <Ratlin> Short story would suffice, even though it's not technically a short story [00:27:36] <Ratlin> We can probe for this stuff -- if Hanzo wants to add more specific MOS issues for us to look at it on the review page, he can do that [00:27:48] <Supreme_Emperor> Do we have a template specifically for interviews? [00:27:55] <Ratlin> We have a short story template [00:28:03] <Ratlin> This interview is apparently from a novel [00:28:14] <Ratlin> The SS template works [00:28:21] <Supreme_Emperor> Alright [00:28:35] I think the born and died dates in the infobox could use explanatory references. [00:28:44] <Imperators> been a while since I read Survivor's Quest, but most probably all the dates need work [00:28:57] <Ratlin> EJ's right [00:29:04] <Supreme_Emperor> Yeah, additional explanation required [00:29:17] <Ratlin> The Fact Files should specify sections [00:29:28] I don't see anything about his birth date in the body, but I might be missing it. [00:29:59] e to the x to the t to the e to the n to the d [00:30:00] <Supreme_Emperor> Yeah, it's infobox exclusive EJ [00:30:04] <Ratlin> per SE [00:30:04] The death date could be better covered as well. [00:30:11] <Ratlin> There's no pipelinks to 2 ABY or 3 ABY in the body [00:30:16] <Imperators> extend [00:30:19] <Ratlin> Extend for all this [00:30:23] Extend [00:30:38] <Culator|Away> You mean probe. This is a new article. [00:30:42] <Ratlin> Yeah [00:30:43] <Ratlin> Probe [00:30:46] <Culator|Away> And sure, do that. [00:30:55] Probe [00:30:56] <Imperators> it's 3 AM, Jesus. probe [00:31:04] <Supreme_Emperor> Probe [00:31:20] the sole reason I moved to Sweden was to participate in Inqmoots that start at 1 AM instead of 2 AM [00:31:20] <Ratlin> Chak Fel probed [00:31:23] Probe [00:31:26] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Venka [00:31:28] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Venka | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [00:31:28] <Supreme_Emperor> 8:30 here Imp :P [00:31:34] <Ratlin> He wanted me to add Robin Scobey to the BTS [00:31:36] <Ratlin> I did that [00:32:08] <Supreme_Emperor> Might this be the one we don't have to touch :D [00:32:11] guy has a huge nose [00:32:12] spare [00:32:22] <Ratlin> I think I even have the Databank names correct [00:32:25] <Ratlin> Last name first, First name last [00:32:37] <Ratlin> Check out those Fact File sections [00:32:38] <Imperators> oh, it's your article? are we going to find anything at all in it? :D [00:32:39] <Ratlin> Bitchin' [00:32:43] <Ratlin> I don't know [00:32:45] <Ratlin> I think it's pretty good [00:32:57] <Supreme_Emperor> I'm going to go out on a limb and say spare [00:33:02] <Ratlin> 3 ABY is reffed correctly [00:33:05] <Imperators> they're so good they're bad [00:33:27] Should the link to Admiral Piett's databank entry in the BTS point to the archive link? [00:33:28] <Imperators> yuusssss duplicate links [00:33:46] <Ratlin> looking [00:33:47] yes, per EJ [00:33:55] <Ratlin> Yeah, I can do that [00:34:06] <Ratlin> It redirects to the Databank now [00:34:08] <Ratlin> That's funny [00:34:09] Right now, it goes to the current databank. [00:34:18] <Imperators> backup links [00:34:29] <Imperators> [00:34:30] backup links are the hottest shit on the Wook right now [00:34:34] <Imperators> spare :D [00:34:39] <Ratlin> Backup links where? [00:34:48] <Ratlin> I think everything is there [00:34:52] Where are these backup links? [00:34:53] yeah, it's all there, spare [00:35:09] <Imperators> DB backup link needs archivedate [00:35:14] <Imperators> the usual [00:35:19] <Ratlin> Ok, I can do that [00:35:21] well, the SWE is 404 too [00:35:37] <Ratlin> You might have to show me how to add these dates in [00:35:43] <Ratlin> I'm not sure I know how to do it exactly [00:35:46] <Imperators> sure [00:35:57] <Imperators> we don't have anything to link the SW:TCG cards to? [00:36:21] <Ratlin> I can look [00:37:04] <Culator|Away> Alright, I gotta go, I'm being yelled at from the other room at escalating volume. [00:37:18] <Ratlin> Later [00:37:22] I find it amusing that the guy in the 3 AM timezone is the one keeping us here longer. [00:37:24] <Ratlin> Anything else? [00:37:28] <Ratlin> Seriously :P [00:37:37] <Supreme_Emperor> lol [00:37:53] I don't have anything else. [00:38:03] <Imperators> probably not [00:38:06] <Ratlin> For the record, our history precedent allows us to spare articles where someone immediately agrees to fix the issues [00:38:16] <Ratlin> ^ For Imperators' understanding [00:38:23] <Ratlin> So I'll get on Venka [00:38:25] <Imperators> thank you so much [00:38:28] <Imperators> spare [00:38:34] <Supreme_Emperor> Yay we get to spare something [00:38:34] <Ratlin> Spare [00:38:35] <Supreme_Emperor> Spare [00:38:35] Spare [00:38:38] Oh, I already added archivedate to Venka [00:38:39] spare [00:38:42] <Ratlin> Thanks, ecks [00:38:47] <Ratlin> Venka spared [00:38:50] <Ratlin> Ugh [00:38:53] <Ratlin> There's one more discussion issue [00:38:55] <Ratlin> It'll be quick [00:39:05] <Ratlin> I think we should reduce the nom removal time from 3 weeks to 2 weeks [00:39:21] agreed [00:39:22] 3 weeks is a very long time. [00:39:28] <Ratlin> An article's length shouldn't determine a nominator's ability to respond to objections in a timely manner [00:39:30] <Supreme_Emperor> 100% support [00:39:36] <Ratlin> The fact that it's an FAN doesn't change that [00:39:58] <Ratlin> So, please say Yes or No for the record [00:39:59] <Supreme_Emperor> Even if someone needs more time, they can just note that under the objection [00:40:00] <Ratlin> Yes [00:40:01] <Supreme_Emperor> Yes [00:40:03] <Ratlin> per SE [00:40:09] ^ [00:40:17] <Imperators> Yes [00:40:28] Yes [00:40:54] <Ratlin> I'm interpreting ecks' ^ as a Yes [00:40:58] ^ [00:40:59] <Ratlin> Proposal carries [00:41:02] <Ratlin> That's all [00:41:03] While we're all here, can we strike Kasra's objection here? http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Featured_article_nominations/Rook_Kast [00:41:04] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Rook Kast | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [00:41:22] <Ratlin> Oh, we have JS-4222whatever's ridiculous objection too [00:41:25] yeah [00:41:26] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Featured_article_nominations/B1-268 [00:41:27] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/B1-268 | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [00:41:33] <Ratlin> Yes to both [00:41:38] Yes to both [00:41:38] yes to both [00:41:56] <Supreme_Emperor> Yes and yes [00:42:05] <Ratlin> Imperators? [00:42:14] <Imperators> yes to Kasra's, and OMG yes to JS's [00:42:18] <Ratlin> Both objections are hereby stricken [00:42:21] <Ratlin> Looking at meeting duties [00:42:23] <Supreme_Emperor> That is indeed one ridiculous objection [00:42:44] <Ratlin> Ok, we need to adjust the duties [00:42:45] <Imperators> it's consistent with his style, at least [00:42:57] <Ratlin> ecks, would you agree to take Cav's spot in the table, and Imperators take Floyd's? [00:43:02] <Ratlin> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Inquisitorius_bylaws [00:43:03] <Nuku-Nuku> Title: Wookieepedia:Inq/Inquisitorius bylaws | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (at starwars.wikia.com) [00:43:25] <Ratlin> Actually [00:43:30] <Ratlin> Yeah, that would work [00:43:46] <Ratlin> I'll volunteer for GT's spots [00:43:53] how about the other way [00:43:58] so Imperators gets to schedule the next one :D [00:44:01] I'll take Cade's spot. [00:44:05] <Imperators> that sly ecks [00:44:10] rookie needs training [00:44:15] <Imperators> I can schedule, whatever [00:44:21] <Ratlin> It's agreed [00:44:22] excellent [00:44:25] <Ratlin> So [00:44:34] <Ratlin> Imperators schedules Meeting 84 [00:44:43] <Ratlin> Toprawa does paperwork [00:44:49] <Ratlin> Meeting is adjourned [00:44:53] <Ratlin> Thank you all for coming