Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Gideon Tarkin


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Gideon Tarkin

 * Nominated by: Havac 23:44, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Well, isn't it just Tarkin Time. And yes, it's over 1000 words. Havac 23:44, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

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Support
 * 1) Nice work.  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  19:00, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) --Skippy Farlstendoiro 06:06, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 11:07, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) Thefourdotelipsis 09:36, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 5)  —Xwing328 (Talk) 04:57, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 6)  Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 08:08, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Skippy studying Gideon:
 * 2) * The word "brigadier" is not linked in its first appearance.
 * 3) **Now it is. Havac 18:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) * Tarkin reached the rank of brigadier before retiring to enter government on Eriadu. Brigadier Tarkin [then] served as the Minister If he retired as brigadier, why is he still called Brigadier? There are canon precedents of retired officers who stopped using their rank as a norm. If Gideon used it honorifically or metaphorically (like self-proclaimed General Ranulph), this might deserve a mention: "retiring to enter government on Eriadu; he nevertheless was still addressed as Brigadier Tarkin".
 * 5) **Retired officers are frequently referred to by their rank, both in canon and the real world. It's not really notable that people still called him Brigadier Tarkin; besides, while he obviously wasn't in centralized government service, we don't really know that he wasn't a brigadier in the local Eriadu security forces or something while he served. It would be going out too far on a limb. Havac 18:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) ***But he was called Brigadier after resigning, true? I mean, sources describing him after that event called him Brigadier? Please double-check it and this objection goes. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 19:01, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) ****I've slightly clarified the language and stripped it down the bare minimum of what we know. We have Tarkin in the military. We have Tarkin called "Brigadier Tarkin," and serving as Minister of Security for Eriadu, which would not be a Republic military position. We then have him serving in the Republic military once more during the Clone Wars, as a Brigadier, and immediately swearing allegiance to the Empire, under which he was still known as Brigadier Tarkin and his military accomplishments were respected, and he died in some type of mutiny, but we really don't have any details on his Imperial military service. Havac 19:08, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) * What are priority theaters and why is the term in inverted commas? Can you shed any light on that?
 * 9) **That's all there is in the NEC, and that's the way it is in the NEC. It's apparently a term coined in conjunction with Tarkin's action, but we really don't know what it means, other than the fact that the fleets go grouped together. Havac 18:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) * As Wilhuff rose through the ranks of the Empire, eventually becoming a Grand Moff, Tarkin found himself outshone Maybe replace "Tarkin" with "Gideon Tarkin"? Just to avoid confusion.
 * 11) **Changed. Havac 18:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 12) * Can't you write at lenght a little bit under P&T ?
 * 13) **Not really. The guy exists solely as a set of minimal sourcebook references and a pair of quotes. I was lucky to get any kind of P&T material at all, unfortunately. Havac 18:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 14) * I guess a BTS reference to the probable etymology of his name is out of question.
 * 15) **I'm not sure what probably etymology you mean, but I tend not to be fond of the pure-speculation "was probably named after such-and-such a thing with a similar name" or "it means something in Swahili" entries. Havac 18:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 16) * The "Imperial Academy" mentioned under BTS might not be an error if it is not specifically an Academy of the Galactic Empire. The name might refer to another empire existing under the Republic, such as Empress Teta's or the Tapani Empire - and thus be a different center. I strongly believe we should try to not say "This OOU author made a mistake, look".
 * 17) **Except there is no "Imperial Academy" that we know of except a long string of consistent timeline-off references to Imperial officers attending the Imperial Academy, which is an extant institution that's just suffering from timeline errors. It's no different from when we get references to "Bob served in the Imperial Fleet for forty years" as of ANH -- we know it's a timeline mistake, and he served in the Republic for some time; we don't assume there was some other totally different Imperial Fleet he was in and then he switched. It can be taken out if you really feel strongly about it, but it's a pretty clear reference to the Imperial Academy that we know, and not a brand new one by the same name. Havac 18:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 18) * Have you scheleduled Rivoche's FAN? ;) --Skippy Farlstendoiro 12:12, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 19) **jSarek already wrote her article up -- poke him to nom it. Havac 18:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

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