Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Wedge Antilles (second nomination)

Wedge Antilles

 * Nominated by: Havac 09:12, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: I am truly sorry. Havac 09:12, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Support

 * 1) Well...it ate up 20 minutes of my time, but I'm glad I read it. I've always wondered why this article wasn't a featured article. The article was great, and I'm honored to be the first to vote! --Gmalek ( The ability to edit does not make you intelligent ) 10:59, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Very good. Includes all his obscure appearances in video games. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 17:10, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) Wedge is an important figure within the New Republic, this article deserves to e a featured article. Very nice article!--96.231.145.47 23:13, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Good, good, whole wheat Shreddies

 * Intro: Is there an article for Wedge and Iella's wedding? I went to pipelink it, but couldn't find one when I searched. If not, go for it!
 * Boyhood: Should "Veggies" be bolded, as it's not in the intro?
 * Victory at Yavin: Context needed on Darth Vader (Supreme Commander or something).
 * It's "the" Millennium Falcon, surely?
 * "Dodonna called a briefing including Antilles and Skywalker, with whom Antilles was already very friendly" --- should that first Antilles be Solo?
 * I recommend that you go through the article again and add more links. I've only done Section 1.1 so far, and I've already added over fifty. Admittedly, I link more than is probably healthy, but The galaxy, cockpit, superweapon, Realspace, pilot, Corellian, smuggler, starship, cantina, captain, planet, and moon are examples of some pretty major ones that were missing.
 * Done to the end of 1.1. Booyaka! Menkooroo 12:58, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Forming Rogue Squadron: Does Luke's mission to Jazbina have an article? As it's referred to as a mission, it probably should.
 * There is no article. Havac 01:04, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Caaaaan you make one?
 * I suppoooooooose. Havac 06:23, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * "They were surprised by a trio of stormtroopers..." Where? Have they boarded the Stellar Manx? Do they board it at all? I'm a little confused.
 * No, I'd have mentioned if they boarded it. They're just kind of hanging out observing the freighter, and the stormtroopers jump them. Havac 01:04, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * You consistently refer to C-3PO and R2-D2 as "it" --- shouldn't their masculine programming warrant "he"?
 * Well, they're robots. Most generic droids get an it, even if their programming is generically masculine. As droids without an actual sex, I went with it. Havac 01:04, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Although I disagree, there is no policy on this. Curses!
 * Plague on Gobindi: I really hate to do this... but if Wedge's three rebel companions appear in the book, have dialogue, are attacked by blobs, etc, they should really have "Unidentified blah blah blah" articles. "Gobindi script" and the blob creatures should have articles, too.
 * Found an article on the blobs and on Gobindi language. Created articles on the Rebels. Havac 01:04, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Escape from Yavin: The unidentified jungle world where they meet Able... article?
 * Made. Havac 01:04, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Is "spymaster" a formal title? ie, worthy of an article?
 * No. Thank God. Havac 01:04, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * This rebel agent who does a whole buncha stuff --- Is he the player character of Galaxies, and is he a specific enough character to warrant an article?
 * Yes, just the generic Galaxies PC. Who isn't specific enough to get an article, as each mission or series of missions could be carried out by a different PC, and many of them require PCs of different alignments, etc. Havac 01:04, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Article, article, article! Menkooroo 14:40, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Running the Rogues: Does the Rebel Alliance Sourcebook explicitly identify "Alliance Starfighter Command"? I can't find any reference to this body on the wook, but if it does, in fact, exist --- article? I was going to pipelink Alliance Starfighter Corps, but that seems to be a distinct non-naval branch.
 * "Antilles quickly drew and shot her." What did he draw?
 * A Second Death Star: The third paragraph contains a lot of extraneous information at the end. Everything after "Antilles received a message for Skywalker:" should probably be trimmed down --- everything from "Skywalker, sobered by the belief..." could probably be cut entirely, as it isn't really relevant to Wedge; the part about Rendar vs. the missile before that also kind of reads like it's already been introduced to the reader. Menkooroo 02:52, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * New threats and the New Republic: "...his fighter was badly damaged by clipping a TIE fighter in the utter darkness of the cloudy night sky." Can you be more specific? ie, which cloudy night sky? Unidentified planet? Article, maybe? It's a big galaxy, and "the" cloudy night sky is too vague. Menkooroo 02:56, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Royal surprise: "Cartariun used the Sith powers..." which ones? Are they his, do they come from the temple?
 * The prior sentence says he's using the Temple's power. I've tweaked the sentence; see if you like it. Havac 07:06, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Push into the core: I'm a bit confused --- Is the entire 181st at Oradin? You say that Fel was actually at Oradin and "led his squadron back to Vuultin", immediately after saying that the 181st pilots were at Vuultin and shooting down Janson and Ibtisam. Did Fel leave a few pilots behind at Vuultin? If that's the case, I recommend changing "led his squadron" to "led most of his squadron" or something similar. Menkooroo 06:06, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * The 181st is a three-squadron wing. So Fel had two squadrons at Oradin and one at Vuultin. I've clarified. Havac 07:06, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Trial by fire: The paragraph where Wedge adjudicates the good-natured dispute contains a lot of detail that's play-by-play and probably extraneous to Wedge. Can you cut it down... considerably?
 * The only way to do the dispute is to have the detail, or else it doesn't make sense. It's one of those things that sucks because it's so complex you have to go into it way deeper than you want to. So I can cut it down entirely, if you want. Havac 07:50, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think cutting it down entirely might be the better choice, yeah. Something like sticking "In the celebration on Talasea afterward, Antilles, Celchu, and Captain Afyon of the Eridain were called on to adjudicate a good-natured dispute among the pilots as to who the best and worst among their ranks were." onto the end of the previous paragraph and leaving it at that. The rest is basically a conversation between Horn and Jace, ya know?
 * Throughout the article, "Terrik" is alternately used for both Booster and Mirax, which is genuinely confusing. There are a few particularly odd instances, such as when the Virulence is surrendered to Terrik (Booster), and in the next paragraph, Terrik and Horn get married. I think it would be easier if you picked one of them and stuck with their first name throughout the article --- I always do it with Roan and Marasiah, and it keeps things clear and unambiguous.
 * Well, "Terrik" is always the last named Terrik, and context generally makes it clear -- Corran's not marrying Booster. Though I'm sure there's a fanfic out there like that. So I cleared up that instance, where I hadn't used the first names liberally enough, you're right. Havac 07:50, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. If I find any more confusing instances, I'll let you know. ... Or sofixit, or something.
 * The conquest of Coruscant: End of the sixth paragraph --- what did Celchu arrive in, and how did he kill them? Menkooroo 18:30, August 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Clarified. Havac 07:50, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Xicer

 * Defectors and captors: "Seerdon then turned to blockading Chandrila...He isolated one of its major cities and began bombarding it..." Do we have an article on this city? If it's one of Chandrila's "major cities" it probably deserves an article.
 * "Tie Interceptor" and "TIE interceptor" are both used in the article. Which is it?
 * Defectors and captors: "He entered into negotiations with a group of Corellian Engineering Corporation workers' union leaders, who were interested in defecting..." Why did they want to defect? This would clarify the Empire's involvement in the matter.
 * Defectors and captors: "When she insisted on selling them out and drew a blaster on the agent, he killed her, an outcome Antilles regretted but accepted as the only way to protect the Alliance." Who killed her, the agent or Wedge? The last part kind of hints at it being Wedge, but I'm assuming it's the agent.
 * Defectors and captors: "The agent completed the mission and returned to confirm his success with Antilles..." Aren't Galaxies PCs supposed to be referred to by gender-neutral terms?
 * Defectors and captors: What kind of generators are you referring to in the next paragraph? Power generators? Shield generators? Or does Galaxies just leave it vague?
 * Freedom's winter: "Antilles returned to Hoth and waited until Skywalker arrived safely to make his final departure, escorting the Dutyfree, piloted by Rogue Ten Tarrin Datch, to safety." Looks like we have a discrepancy here: Datch's article says he piloted Thon's Orchard, not the Dutyfree. I only bring this up because Datch is an FA. One of these articles will need to be changed.
 * That's it through 1.2, more to come. FYI I redlinked autograph in "Defectors and captors". Also, I forgot to mention this earlier, but one of the SWGTCG cards I put in the Sources list depicts Wedge receiving an Imperial Death Mark, at least I think it's Wedge. It looks a lot like him but I'm not familiar with the accompanying scenario, so I can't be sure. If it's not him then you can remove it, if it is him then that information might be worth adding to the article (with the sentence stating that he was put on the Emperor's Most Wanted List). Oh, and finally, I'm not sure what our policy or precedent is on having Wizards links without articles in Sources lists. You may need to create an article for that TFU preview, or at least redlink it. Just a heads up. Xicer9 atgar.svg( Combadge) 00:41, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Running the Rogues: "Antilles was sent to scout the Maw, a black hole cluster suspected of hiding an Imperial prison. Article needed on the prison, as well as the Bothon pilot mentioned later in the paragraph.
 * Running the Rogues: For the Fondor shipyard assault, you have to explain that it was their objective to destroy the SSD in the first sentence. Otherwise it sounds kind of like they decided to attack the shipyard first, then discovered the SSD being built there, and then decided to destroy it.
 * Running the Rogues: Battle article for the Strike Cruiser skirmish? Xicer9 atgar.svg( Combadge) 03:46, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * New threats and the New Republic: Articles needed on Weir's base and the Tandankin monument.
 * New threats and the New Republic: "the strange and brutal Nagai, emigres from the satellite galaxy Companion Besh, began a campaign against the galaxy in alliance with rogue Imperials." "the galaxy" here sounds like it's referring to Companion Besh. Xicer9 atgar.svg( Combadge) 05:55, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * All of the above addressed. Havac 07:47, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * At least once in "New threats and the New Republic" and several times in "Encounter on Mrlsst" the word "Alliance" is used to refer to the NR.
 * Damn comics use the term all the time too. Fixed. Havac 07:38, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Articles needed: Dza'tey's second-in-command. Also, are there no articles on the missions to Cilpar, Mrlsst, Tatooine, Eiattu, or Malrev? And FYI I redlinked Harrandatha's impostor. That's it through 1.4. Xicer9 atgar.svg( Combadge) 03:37, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. Havac 07:38, July 16, 2010 (UTC)