User talk:Sikon

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Archive

Wookieepedia email
Would you send me an email, please, so I can send you instructions for logging into your new Wookieepedia email account? whiteboy !at! wookieepedia !dot! com. Thanks! WhiteBoy 03:18, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

My response
I know that. Its just that I like to know the leaders, thats all. Its just temporary, will change. BTW, glad someone notices me. --SGCommand 15:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

MediaWiki upgrade
After seeing a bunch of extra table tags everywhere, I got a little spooked. My immediate reaction was to go to #wikia, and Angela told me it's a MediaWiki upgrade, so I feel better. But we need to let the masses know not to go trying to fix it themselves.

"[23:04] jqsjqs: hi everyone... we're in the middle of doing an upgrade test. We've had reports of extra table tags showing up.....   deepest apologies but we're chasing a slowdown bug with the testing we're doing right now. So the extra table tags will be gone as soon as we're done testing."

In short, we need a sitenotice, which I don't know how to do yet. -- Darth Culator 03:05, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Never mind, figured it out. Learn something new every day. -- Darth Culator 03:33, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

MY skin
You put stuff on MediaWiki:Myskin.css when it's supposed to be empty. Please clear it. If you want css on your Myskin then put it in your own myskin.css.
 * You didn't get the point... It's supposed to be a skin that people will edit into an "in-universe" skin, an alternative to Monobook. I'll write a page on that. - Sikon [ Talk ] 05:09, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Then make a page with that stuff as a subpage of your user page and put a link to it on the talk page or something. That way, people can use it if they want. If they want some skin they invented and is completely different than any of the other skins, they are supposed to set their skin to 'Myskin' and put the css for their new skin on their own myskin.css. That way they can have anything there, without MediaWiki:Myskin.css getting in the way. That is why it must be empty.
 * Do you want to use the old myskin? - Sikon [ Talk ] 05:04, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

IRC
I tried going on and it didn't seme to work, and it's early here so I'm going to bed. Kuralyov 08:52, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I see no reason to assume good faith when many of the regular users here have stated opinions to the contrary about me. Kuralyov 18:49, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: "I don't get it" on the quote
"This threshold is mine. I claim it for my own. Bring on your thousands, one at a time or all in a rush. I don't give a damn. None shall pass." Ganner Rhysode

You voted against, as I remember, because you "didn't get it". Hmm...did you ever happen to read Traitor? It explains it pretty well in that book, as well as the article Duel at the Well of the World Brain. That quote (and variations thereof) was used in similar context in different movies-i.e., one character heroically sacrificing himself to delay an enemy onslaught. (anon) 75.31.22.136 23:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * No, I didn't read the book. But even if the quote is funny in context, it doesn't negate the fact that Idon't get it. - Sikon [ Talk ] 23:46, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Timestamps?
Where did we setup the policy saying that votes had to be timestamped? The votes can be verified by looking at the history, after all. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 21:14, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

 * Hi, I never did say thank you for fixing up my page, thank you for the help. Too bad I'm not allowed to have the actuallly article on my page.  Jaina Solo  Goddess Stuff [[Image:Jbig3.JPG|20px]] 15:29, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Archive
Hey Sikon can you please tell me how to make an archive.  Jaina Solo  Goddess Stuff 19:42, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Just create a page called "Talk:PAGENAME/Archive" (or Archive2, Archive3 etc.), cut=and=paste old threads there, and add a link on the main talk page. - Sikon (Vacation) 18:57, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Alert

 * Please check the VIP. I've been tracking an IP vandal for about 20 minutes now and left a note on Silly Dan's page. I was going to use the Test templates, but he kept vandalising. I think reversions have already been made. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 18:29, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Never mind, it's done. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 18:30, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

User:John Guy Robinson
I think that user is impersonating Hephaestos (sp?) a former Wikipedia admin. (That admin apparently quit Wikipedia after being fed up with trolls and vandals.)  We may want to remove the block so we can block that username indefinitely. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 16:07, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * He apparently has socks, I think it's better to contact the staff (Sannse?) and decide which of them to ban. - Sikon 16:11, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Malachor V
Hi Sikon, I don't usually bother admins about this stuff, but I was wondering if you would be willing to weigh-in on the ongoing dispute over at the Malachor V article and its talk page. I asked Silly Dan to help moderate the discussion because it was getting out of hand and he decided to protect both pages since he was on vacation.

The dispute is about the validity of placing speculation about the True Sith in the article. The Bandsaw Vigilante continues to promote his own version of the article even though no one who has commented on the talk page (including yourself) agrees with him. He has gotten rather nasty with me, though I must admit, not entirely without provocation. I have, however, since apologized.

I and Kuralyov have collectively reverted his edits five times in the last few days and I am getting tired of dealing with the problem. The Bandsaw Vigilante continues to act as though the community, at some point, came up with some imaginary consensus supporting his views. As evidence, he points to Votes for deletion/True Sith, as though that page has any actual bearing on the discussion. In truth, he seems to believe that as long as no one bothers to debate him, he can post whatever he wants. My main rebuttal of his confrontational rants is also on his talk page.– 06:08, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Bots
Hello Sikon, I was directed here by some users who read my posting on Silly Dan's user page. Could you have a look at my "Experience with bots" thread? Maybe you have some useful ideas about how to deal with our problem?! Thank you very much! RC-9393 19:21, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

FYI
As per the consensus track decision, I've requested on Wikia that they restrict the moving of pages for new users here. Kuralyov 16:59, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

How do you add standard summaries to a wiki?
I would like to add Standard Summaries to the ChristianMusic's edit page like you have here. I understand you are responsible for that here. You might prefer to respond at W:Forum:How to supply stock summaries. Will (talk -- contribs) 05:02, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Russian cover?
Hey Sikon, we were wondering if this image - Image:VisionFuture foreign.jpg - was Russian or not. Thanks for any help. 03:50, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * It isn't Russian, but it does look like a Slavic language. Maybe Bulgarian? - Sikon 09:56, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Jedipedia.de needs help!
Hi Sikon! I'm Ben Kenobi from Jedipedia.de and we need help with our era-template. I've copied the majority of your source but there is a problem we can't cure: The icons are above each other, not beside. We can't find our mistake, so maybe you have an idea? Please, look at our Template. Thanks for the help. Ben Kenobi (217.236.237.31 20:53, 29 September 2006 (UTC))
 * I have come up with a solution, but I am not sure what is causing the problem. It may be that differences in our CSS style sheets are causing it.– 23:33, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Input requested
A consensus track is up in order to establish a policy for deleting old copyvio articles. As an administrator, your input would be appreciated. The consensus track can be found here. --Imp 22:21, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Bot assistance
Hey Sikon, i was wondering. Would you be able to tell me how you created your R2-D2 bot account please. The Star Wars Fanon Wikia needs a couple of bots and no-one over there knows how to make one, so if you could tell me i would be most grateful. Many thanks. Jasca Ducato Sith Council (Sith campaign) 08:17, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * R2-D2 is a normal user account, operated like any other. The bot is powered by scripts on my garbage dump, lucidfox.org. The category and replacement scripts are part of the Pywikipedia framework, which is a large, large Python script library having more features than I will possibly ever need, and the sandbox is reset by a very simple PHP script run from crontab. What kind of bots does the fanon wiki need? - Sikon 14:15, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * A vandal clean-up bot, and probably a spell-checker bot (although i'm dubious abot the last one because it may mistake made up words). Jasca Ducato Sith Council (Sith campaign) 20:55, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I could use some bot assistance too. I just started my bot, and it appears to make a change when I run the script in command prompt, but it never makes the changes on the actual Wookieepedia page. Do you have any ideas or suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong? Whistler 02:54, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The above comment was supposed to be signed by me, Xwing328. I was still logged in as my bot. Sorry 02:58, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Could you post the complete command line output for the bot? - Sikon 03:38, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Haha. No. It's too long. It shows the change that I want, but when I press y to approve the change, it says getting a page to make sure we're logged in, then scrolls through tons of stuff—most of it looks like the article in xml format. One of the lines I used was "replace.py -page:User:Whistler "Xwing328" """ if that helps. I also tried it with the "replace.py -cat:Core_planets "=Unknown" "="" that you had on your page. 03:58, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Paste the log at and post the link here. - Sikon 07:46, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * http://pastebin.ca/196353 That's everything I could copy. 14:42, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm... sorry, no idea. Never encountered that kind of error. - Sikon 17:03, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * What do you do to actually run your bot? Are you entering commands in command prompt, IDLE, or python, or are you writing new .py files to run? 17:14, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I type the commands in the command line, just like you did. Works under both Windows and Linux (via SSH). - Sikon 17:17, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * There's not a command after you make the change to upload it to the wiki, is there? Ah, this is sooo confusing. 17:40, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry to keep bugging you, but I tried editing on a short page, and I was able to copy more of the code. It turns out that I am getting the "loss of session data" error. You can see code here - http://pastebin.ca/196555 18:15, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Found the solution finally. You will have to check out the latest CVS version (or I can prepackage it). You also need to use longer delay times or even leave the default ones. - Sikon 18:07, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
 * If you could package it, email it, or just direct me to where to download it, that would be great. 18:56, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Underlines

 * A few of us were wondering about why all the link underlines on the site were gone, so when I found that you made the change, I thought I'd ask you about it. We're discussing it here. Thanks. -- Ozzel 01:41, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Birth dates
Kuralyov mentioned here that you were the one who brought up the birth dates of Mical, Brianna and Visas Marr. Could you help me find a source? =) --Imp 00:54, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Check out Talk:Canderous_Ordo.– 00:59, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Cheers! --Imp 01:03, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Male individuals
I wasn't sure where to bring this up, or if it had already been discussed, but as you created the R2-D2 bot I thought I'd ask here. Why not make it Category:Males rather than Category:Male individuals? I prefer shorter cats anyway and this seems more concise to me. --Eyrezer 02:04, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd probably say the same thing about Females too... --Eyrezer 09:03, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I suppose your idea has merit, but this would be better discussed in the Senate Hall than on my talk page. - Sikon 09:46, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

IRC

 * So what happens to the Mofference if IRC is still not back up? Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 14:48, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Since the Mofference is a week away, I don't see the problem. Freenode will obviously be back up before that date. - Sikon 14:51, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 15:10, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

WookieeProject forum
Hey, I've been trying to set up a forum-ish thing for WookieeProject The New Essential Guide to Characters, in an attempt to make our discussions more organized. However, I've been having some problems. At the moment, adding a new topic puts the topics in Category:Senate Hall as opposed to Category:WookieeProject The New Essential Guide to Characters forum. I've tried changing the "namespace", "prefix" and "category" information in the code (which I copy+pasted from the Senate Hall), but then I have to manually add the category, which is annoying. Any advice or help would be appreciated! --Imp 15:36, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
 * That page preloads Template:Shtop, you can see it in the inputbox code. You must fork that template (with needed modifications) and insert the new template name in the inputbox code. - Sikon 17:24, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

IRC
That IRC thing...that was stuffing me up...well, JSarek fixed it for me. But thanks for your concern. And sorry for replying on your talk page...force of habit. . .  .  .  23:23, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Wookiee QDB
I was checking out the QDB, and just so you know, the quote attributed to fourdot was from me. ;) Havac 22:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Whoops, fixed. - Sikon 09:30, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

No consensus policy
Okay, the fact that status quo doesn't always reign in a "no consensus" is new to me. Can you point me to our policies on this? As an admin, I should probably know these things. ;-) jSarek 22:58, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Hate to be a bother, but still haven't heard from you on this . . . jSarek 16:15, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Didn't I explain this on the CT page? The decision to keep Anakin and Vader separate was introduced by consensus, overriding policy. Since the next poll on the same topic yielded no consensus, I decided to revert to policy. Call it "status quo of both discussions", if you wish. - Sikon 17:50, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * That's what I'm asking about - what/where *is* the policy that indicates that the articles should be merged? The first vote wouldn't have overridden policy if there wasn't some policy to override in the first place.  jSarek 18:37, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't know, maybe there isn't one... meh. Overturn my decision if you want, I don't care anymore. - Sikon 18:45, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * There isn't one, however there is no other article that's split like the Anakin and Vader articles was. So you can call it a revert back to the norm. --Imp 18:48, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I wasn't out to overturn your decision, merely to know the source of it so that I could apply it where applicable in the future, and to see if there were any other policies there that I might have overlooked. jSarek 22:49, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Blast your infernal logic!
Stop making so much sense! You better be on IRC when I get home from work, because I need to yell at you some more. You're being all logical and reasonable! That's not how Wookieepedia works! -- Darth Culator  (Talk)(TINC) 23:02, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Proposal: Deny recognition
I have started a admin's noticeboard thread about changing some administrative details about blocked user's pages here. Please look over the thread and add your comments: there have been no votes against it so far, but I don't have enough input to assume consensus and start deleting things. Thanks, &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 15:54, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

RFB
Hey Sikon. Would you be opposed to being nominated for bureaucratship? --Imp 21:34, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No, not at all. - Sikon 03:14, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

New Code
I noticed that the whole format of Wookiee is different when I visit your page and only your page? The column on the left is now a dropdown list from the top, and the logo is above the ads. Something of your design? -- Riffsyphon1024 21:05, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * See my reply to Will Pittenger below. (Sorry, didn't notice your post before.) - Sikon 09:19, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Double-Oh-Wiki
I'm trying to set up (read:steal), the eras template an implement it on the James Bond Wiki (jamesbond.wikia.com), but I don't have the know-how to set it up properly. If you're willing to help me set it up, please contact me over there. . .  .  .  02:03, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * For the template to work, you need to copy eras, eraicon, t and f, then (optionally) add to MediaWiki:Common.css:


 * 1) title-eraicons { display: none; }

and to MediaWiki:Monobook.css:


 * 1) title-eraicons { display: inline; }

- Sikon 05:26, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm...not quite working. Maybe it's my tweaking of the eras template. Could you take a quick look? .  .  .  .  05:45, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Fixed. - Sikon 06:03, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * ...now it's doing something strange. Take a look at Piece Brosnan. How do I fix that? .  .  .  .  06:11, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Please unprotect Eraicon so I can fix it. By the way, you don't need external links, wikia:c:jamesbond:Pierce Brosnan will do. - Sikon 06:26, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. .  .  .  .  06:29, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Done as well :). - Sikon 06:35, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much. I think we're just in the tweaking stages now. I'm going to re-upload all of the images, so they're proportionate, but I've come acrross a bug on James Bond. .  .  .  .  06:43, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Just a slight question on the linking to other wikis. Apparently the same technique does not work for a link to Memory Alpha, as shown here: Table of Elements. What needs to be changed, and are they even under Wikia anymore? -- Riffsyphon1024 07:00, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It's just, and Uncyc is just . We can be also linked from other Wikia as Starwars:. Your method doesn't work because MA's internal Wikia name is "enmemoryalpha", not just "memoryalpha". - Sikon 11:15, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for your help, Sikon. Very kind of you. .  .  .  .  22:12, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Drop menus in Wikia pages
How are the drop menus in your user page implemented? I would like all pages I visit to have that. At 1024x768, I need all the screen width I can get. Will (talk -- contribs) 08:49, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Copy the contents of User:Sikon/monobook.css to User:Will Pittenger/monobook.css. - Sikon 09:18, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Cool. What about Wikipedia? Will it work there too? I added some JS that adds to the toolbox. What happens to those items?
 * It won't work there. Not in IE6, at least. Also, it's designed for Wikia, with its ad column. - Sikon 13:22, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Could I just remove the ad part for Wikipedia? I use Firefox anyway. Will (talk -- contribs) 04:25, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I use Firefox 1.5.0.8. IE gets used only for MS sites that require it like MSUpdate.

Also, it would help if the bar did not scroll. Would it have to be in its own frame? Will (talk -- contribs) 06:01, 19 November 2006 (UTC) Could you make that change? When I attempted it, I messed things up badly. Also, after some experience with the bar, I think I would prefer to have the User menu in the default layout along the right half of the bar. I use it too much to hide it. Besides, that space is wasted as is. Will (talk -- contribs) 04:25, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No, adding position:fixed would suffice (albeit not in IE6). - Sikon 11:06, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

R2
There is one small problem with what he does. I don't know whether you've noticed this, but when he goes through an article, he brings up the text to be flush with the infobox, which leaves a small gap at the start of all articles. . .  .  .  23:41, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Grats on bureaucratship
Is that a word? WhiteBoy 19:39, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I'd ask Wikipedia - they seem to have coined it. By the way, thanks to everyone who voted for me! - Sikon 19:44, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd congratulate you, but since Riffs thinks we should be more varied, I'll just say "Huzzah!" ;-) jSarek 22:26, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll throw in an additional "Huzzah!" We can be varied together… – Aidje talk 01:52, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Congrats. Now prove yourself, scum! : P-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 02:34, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Congrats! -  Yoshi  626  02:36, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't mean to come as a stick in the mud but...
With your new status as a bureaucrat, you might want to rethink the piracy rant on your main page. I'm not trying to argue that your wrong or anything (either way it's beside the point) as one of the higher ranking members here, you have a responsibility to keep Wookieepedia running smoothly which means, avoiding any licensing or copyright issues with you-know-who. It's probably unlikely that some rep of Lucas comes and sees it but you never know. Word travels fast. One guys sees this, he tells this guy, rep checks it out and the rest is history. If Lucas would decide to pursue a legal way to "deal with you" and being that you, as a bureaucrat, basically represent us all, they wouldn't look at the rest of us with much sympathy and might shut the site down. And they can if they wanted to. Even if it is a small risk, are you willing to take the risk at all? -- Redemption Talk 02:55, 28 November 2006 (UTC)