Talk:Sith/Legends

I hate the way the Dark Lords and generic Sith are organised on this page... does anyone care if I do a major reorganisation, dumping, among other things, the chronological listings? QuentinGeorge 06:46, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
 * It might be good to do it on a temp page first, and then post a link for the community to see, rather than making a massive, one time change. --SparqMan 06:50, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

Post-NJO Sith source?

 * "Following the Yuuzhan Vong invasion, however, Jedi Knight Kyle Katarn encountered a Force-strong Yuuzhan Vong female in the mysterious Cloak of the Sith region of the galaxy, where it was rumored that post-Palpatine Sith still lived. Powerful though she was, Kyle sensed an even darker hand behind her training. Apparently, this Yuuzhan Vong had a Master . . ."
 * From this article. Is there a source for this? 'Cause it smells like fanon. --Imp 02:07, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)


 * That's from the Wizard's of the Coast website. The Dark Forces articles. -- 63.245.159.27
 * By golly, it is. --Imp 02:29, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Code
Is the last line of the Sith Code "The Force shall free me", ot is it "The Force shall set me Free"? User:SFH


 * I think it's "free me". --Master Starkeiller 01:42, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Do we have any sources for where the Code actually originated from? Was it invented by Xendor or perhaps compiled over time? --Culix 06:23, 1 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Definately not Xendor, as he was never a Sith Lord. QuentinGeorge 08:24, 1 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * That doesn't mean he couldn't have invented the code. It might have originally been a Dark Jedi code that was slowly absolved by the Sith. I think the chances of it being created by Xendor are pretty high. Jasca Ducato 15:36, 1 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree with Jasca. While he may not have formed it, it may have been partially based on his meditations. As for the source, this code comes from KOTOR. -- SFH 06:43, 6 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry, maybe I didn't phrase my question correctly. I realize that the code showed up in KOTOR IRL, but I meant to ask if we had any in universe mention of who thought it up. Perhaps nothing official has ever been said? --Culix 06:16, 7 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh. No, nothing in universe has been said. -- SFH 15:10, 7 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Err, not that i know off. Sorry. Jasca Ducato 19:54, 9 Nov 2005 (UTC)


 * Um, there's a different Sith Code out there.

There is no fear, there is power. There is no death, there is immortality. There is no weakness, there is the Dark Side. I am the Heart of Darkness. I know no fear, But rather I instill it in my enemies. I am the destroyer of worlds. I know the power of the Dark Side. I am the fire of hate. All the Universe bows before me. I pledge myself to the Darkness. For I have found true life, In the death of the light.

Shouldn't this be included? I mean, it is the code from Darth Bane on. -Hitokiri Akins I'm fairly certain that KOTOR is the source. - Angel Blue 451 21:36, 8 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Provide a source before this is added, please. QuentinGeorge 05:00, 8 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Ancient Sith
How can Tulak Hord have lived in the same era as Ajunta Pall if Hord was a lightsaber duelist? Not only had the lightsaber not been invented yet, but the Sith wouldn't come to use it until after the Great Hyperspace War. I don't see how Hord could have reigned anytime but after Ludo Kressh.


 * Since we can only assume when he lived at this point, I moved him to "Others". --Master Starkeiller 16:31, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Also, shouldn't King Adas be on the list somewhere? Lieutenant Gerard 16:22, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)


 * If he lived 16.000 BBY, he should be under the "Ancient Sith" section. I put him there. --Master Starkeiller 16:32, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Move History to separate page?
It seems as though this article is one big history lesson, with no mention of the Sith's practices, beliefs, or any other information (other than the Code at the top). How would everyone feel about moving the history to a separate page? The main Sith page could then hold more information on who the Sith were and what they did. This would also be consistent with the Jedi History page, which remains a separate page from the Jedi Order. --Culix 04:07, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree. Both this and the Jedi page as severely lacking on actual 'examinations of the order. QuentinGeorge 06:51, 25 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Done. Now we can begin refining the history page separately. --Culix 19:54, 2 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Move to Sith Order
Should we move this over to Sith Order to better distinguish it from the Sith race? -- SFH 17:44, 15 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree, howver this would mean that Jedi should be moved to Jedi Order. Jasca Ducato 18:54, 23 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Main Picture
Anyone opposed to me adding this image as the main picture?--Knightfall


 * Yeah, me. It's awful. We have a pic showing the same thing where Sidious and Vader look much better. No, absolutely not. Without the tweaking to make Hayden taller, Vader looks LAME. --Master Starkeiller 18:56, 27 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * No problem. Just figured I'd ask. Thanks for the reply. --Knightfall 19:34, 27 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * If it weren't for Vader's height, it would be fine... --Master Starkeiller 20:12, 27 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * I always thought that pic would be better for this page. I mean, when you say "Sith", what do you first think about?TIEPilot051999 01:48, 28 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * This may be beating a dead horse, but in regards to what Starkeiller said, doesn't this picture properly represent Vader's height? The tweaking to make Hayden taller was actually IN the suit he wore, it wasn't edited in later...well, at least as far as I know. If thats true, then that would make Vader's height in this picture accurate.--Knightfall 00:54, 3 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * It's because its actually Ryan Kaufman in the suit for the promos, I've heard. QuentinGeorge 02:58, 3 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Ranks?
Where do the ranks for the pre-Bane Sith come from? Lieutenant Gerard 18:40, 16 Dec 2005 (UTC)