Wookieepedia:EduCorps/Meeting 61/Log

Dec 01 00:01:17 	Welcome everyone to the 61st edition of the EC Cup Dec 01 00:01:33 	Per the Rules of the game, we kick-off with the old stuff Dec 01 00:01:47 	Book of Hondo Dec 01 00:01:53 	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Book_of_Hondo Dec 01 00:01:58 	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Book_of_Hondo Dec 01 00:02:04 	https://starwars.fandom.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=8591821 Dec 01 00:02:08 	No changes Dec 01 00:02:09 	Kill Dec 01 00:02:09 	Kill Dec 01 00:02:13 	burn it Dec 01 00:02:25 	Imperators votes kill Dec 01 00:02:39 	Kill Dec 01 00:02:40 *	Fan26 (49ab13d8@wookieepedia/Fan26) has joined Dec 01 00:02:40 *	ChanServ gives channel operator status to Fan26 Dec 01 00:03:02 	Hey Fan! Dec 01 00:03:07 	Hey! Dec 01 00:03:22 	The match has begun, and we are voting on Book of Hondo Dec 01 00:03:38 	Ah, Dec 01 00:03:51 <Fan26>	Kill it Dec 01 00:04:02 <QGJ>	Book of Hondo is sent-off Dec 01 00:04:06 <QGJ>	Next up Dec 01 00:04:13 <QGJ>	Courataine Dec 01 00:04:21 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Courataine Dec 01 00:04:28 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Courataine Dec 01 00:04:32 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=8591826 Dec 01 00:04:35 <QGJ>	No changes Dec 01 00:04:37 <AnilSerifoglu>	Kill Dec 01 00:04:37 <QGJ>	Kill Dec 01 00:04:38 <AnilSerifoglu>	Imperators votes kill Dec 01 00:04:47 <CorellianPremier>	yep, kill Dec 01 00:04:51 <Fan26>	kill Dec 01 00:05:00 <Ayrehead>	Kill Dec 01 00:05:13 <QGJ>	Courataine joins Book of Hondo off the pitch Dec 01 00:05:19 <QGJ>	Next up Dec 01 00:05:34 <QGJ>	Unidentified deputy minister of trade Dec 01 00:05:41 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Unidentified_deputy_minister_of_trade Dec 01 00:05:49 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Unidentified_deputy_minister_of_trade Dec 01 00:05:53 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=8591832 Dec 01 00:06:05 <AnilSerifoglu>	Keep Dec 01 00:06:09 <QGJ>	Yours truly has taken the liberty to fix this Dec 01 00:06:15 <AnilSerifoglu>	Imperators votes keep Dec 01 00:06:15 <QGJ>	I have no other issues with this Dec 01 00:06:22 <CorellianPremier>	ok keep Dec 01 00:06:35 <Fan26>	keep Dec 01 00:06:38 <Ayrehead>	Keep Dec 01 00:07:05 <QGJ>	The deputy minister keeps her position Dec 01 00:07:19 <QGJ>	It's half-time and we're moving on to the new stuff Dec 01 00:07:28 <QGJ>	Chad — Update needed per Galaxy's Edge: Black Spire, Star Wars: Geektionary: The Galaxy from A - Z, and Ultimate Star Wars, New Edition. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 13:40, November 6, 2019 (UTC) Dec 01 00:07:38 <QGJ>	Probe Dec 01 00:07:46 <AnilSerifoglu>	Probe Dec 01 00:07:55 <AnilSerifoglu>	Imperators votes Probe Dec 01 00:08:04 <Ayrehead>	Probe Dec 01 00:08:08 <Fan26>	probe it Dec 01 00:08:09 <CorellianPremier>	Probe Dec 01 00:08:31 <QGJ>	Chad is issued a warning and gets probed Dec 01 00:08:39 <QGJ>	Rakata Prime — these edits need to be cleaned up. Imperators II(Talk) 10:27, November 25, 2019 (UTC) Dec 01 00:08:47 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/index.php?title=Rakata_Prime&diff=8657969&oldid=8618341 Dec 01 00:08:59 <AnilSerifoglu>	Okay, this is one of my babies. Imperators and I believe it's in good shape now, but it has almost nothing to do with the original article Dec 01 00:09:09 <AnilSerifoglu>	I mean, I'm ok if you want to redux this Dec 01 00:09:45 <Ayrehead>	After all the stuff with Lehon I think that might be best Dec 01 00:10:03 <AnilSerifoglu>	Redux, then Dec 01 00:10:07 <QGJ>	Agreed, there has been a big update Dec 01 00:10:09 <Ayrehead>	Redux Dec 01 00:10:10 <QGJ>	Redux Dec 01 00:10:15 <Fan26>	Redux Dec 01 00:10:16 <CorellianPremier>	I agree, let's redux Dec 01 00:10:36 <QGJ>	Rakata Prime is sent to Redux Dec 01 00:10:57 <QGJ>	Looking at the maintenance bin, I've found... Dec 01 00:11:08 <QGJ>	Seven-string hallikset Dec 01 00:11:18 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Seven-string_hallikset Dec 01 00:11:18 <AnilSerifoglu>	Probe Dec 01 00:11:23 <Ayrehead>	Oh I need to update this but we should probe it for now Dec 01 00:11:23 <QGJ>	Needs an update Dec 01 00:11:24 <Ayrehead>	Probe Dec 01 00:11:26 <QGJ>	probe Dec 01 00:11:38 <AnilSerifoglu>	Imp votes Probe Dec 01 00:11:39 <Fan26>	yeah, Probe Dec 01 00:11:55 <QGJ>	hallikset probed Dec 01 00:11:55 <CorellianPremier>	probe Dec 01 00:12:09 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Talzzi Dec 01 00:12:20 <QGJ>	Needs an update as well Dec 01 00:12:21 <Ayrehead>	Probe Dec 01 00:12:22 <AnilSerifoglu>	Probe Dec 01 00:12:25 <QGJ>	Probe Dec 01 00:12:30 <AnilSerifoglu>	Imp says Probe Dec 01 00:12:42 <CorellianPremier>	probe Dec 01 00:12:54 <Fan26>	probe Dec 01 00:13:02 <QGJ>	Talzzi probed Dec 01 00:13:15 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Trandoshan_ale Dec 01 00:13:21 <QGJ>	Update needed Dec 01 00:13:25 <AnilSerifoglu>	Probe Dec 01 00:13:27 <Ayrehead>	Again another one I need to get Dec 01 00:13:28 <Ayrehead>	Probe Dec 01 00:13:33 <Fan26>	probe Dec 01 00:13:34 <AnilSerifoglu>	Imperators votes Probe Dec 01 00:13:35 <QGJ>	Also, the main image quality is not great Dec 01 00:13:44 <AnilSerifoglu>	Agreed Dec 01 00:13:57 <CorellianPremier>	probe Dec 01 00:14:01 <QGJ>	Trandoshan ale probed Dec 01 00:14:09 <QGJ>	Last one Dec 01 00:14:18 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Topato_stew Dec 01 00:14:28 <QGJ>	Needs an update Dec 01 00:14:29 <AnilSerifoglu>	Probe Dec 01 00:14:31 <AnilSerifoglu>	Imperators votes Probe Dec 01 00:14:33 <QGJ>	and fix the redlink Dec 01 00:14:44 <Ayrehead>	Probe Dec 01 00:14:55 <Fan26>	probe Dec 01 00:14:59 <CorellianPremier>	probe Dec 01 00:15:06 <QGJ>	Also will probably require subsectioning Dec 01 00:15:09 <QGJ>	Probe Dec 01 00:15:21 <QGJ>	Topato stew probed Dec 01 00:15:26 <QGJ>	Moving on to extra time Dec 01 00:15:32 <QGJ>	AKA discussion items Dec 01 00:15:38 <QGJ>	Anil, you have the floor Dec 01 00:15:54 <AnilSerifoglu>	Thank you Dec 01 00:16:46 <AnilSerifoglu>	Okay, what I propose is the same rule we have approved in the latest AC meeting. I'm going to explain it for anyone who isn't familiar with it Dec 01 00:18:06 <AnilSerifoglu>	Recently, we have discussed that it would better if articles with less than 165 words go to CA, even if it passes 250 words with BTS Dec 01 00:18:10 <AnilSerifoglu>	https://ibb.co/jDcPxHD Dec 01 00:18:35 <AnilSerifoglu>	This flow chart should give you a better idea of what I'm talking about Dec 01 00:18:58 <AnilSerifoglu>	The second section of the chart is nothing new Dec 01 00:19:26 <AnilSerifoglu>	Aaand we have already passed that 165-word rule about subsectioning: Dec 01 00:19:37 <AnilSerifoglu>	"13…provide an introduction if it reaches 165 words, not counting the "Behind the scenes" section. Conversely, an article may not have an introduction if it is less than 165 words, not counting the "Behind the scenes" section." Dec 01 00:20:47 <AnilSerifoglu>	So what I propose is this: Articles with less that 165 words in the body, meaning they don't have an intro and subsectioning per rule 13, are eligible for CA no matter what Dec 01 00:21:08 <AnilSerifoglu>	Even if it has a long BTS section Dec 01 00:21:24 <AnilSerifoglu>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Rakata_Prime Dec 01 00:21:33 <AnilSerifoglu>	This article is a perfect example for this Dec 01 00:22:05 <AnilSerifoglu>	Even though it's over 250, I believe it should go to CA, not GA Dec 01 00:22:24 <AnilSerifoglu>	Floor, please Dec 01 00:22:57 <Ayrehead>	I definitely support this Dec 01 00:24:48 <QGJ>	Are current articles, which are mostly Bts, going to retain their current status? Dec 01 00:24:48 <AnilSerifoglu>	Any other opinions? Dec 01 00:25:21 <Fan26>	I have no problem with it Dec 01 00:25:26 <AnilSerifoglu>	No, they should go to CA as well, in my opinion Dec 01 00:25:29 <CorellianPremier>	Right, I think it makes perfect sense Dec 01 00:26:03 <QGJ>	I think I have one candiate from one of my own articles Dec 01 00:26:24 <AnilSerifoglu>	Which one is that? Dec 01 00:26:55 <QGJ>	The Battle of Khorm occurred during the Clone Wars between the Galactic Republic and the Confederacy of Independent Systems. Taking place at Khorm, the battle saw Republic Clone Commander CC-3636 lose his right eye in combat with the Confederate dark side warrior Asajj Ventress. Dec 01 00:26:55 <QGJ>	Contents[hide] Dec 01 00:26:55 <QGJ>	History Dec 01 00:26:55 <QGJ>	Behind the scenes Dec 01 00:26:55 <QGJ>	Portrayal in Star Wars Legends Dec 01 00:26:55 <QGJ>	Sources Dec 01 00:26:55 <QGJ>	Notes and references Dec 01 00:26:55 <QGJ>	HistoryEdit Dec 01 00:26:55 <QGJ>	The Battle of Khorm was fought during the Clone Wars between the Galactic Republic and the Confederacy of Independent Systems[6] at some point between 22 BBY and 21 BBY.[4] The Republic forces—commanded by Jedi General Anakin Skywalker and Clone Commander CC-3636, nicknamed "Wolffe"—and the Confederate troops, led by[5] the dark side assassin[7] Asajj Ventress, clashe Dec 01 00:26:56 <QGJ>	Crap Dec 01 00:27:00 <QGJ>	Copy paste derp Dec 01 00:27:02 <QGJ>	I meant Dec 01 00:27:07 <QGJ>	Battle of Khorm Dec 01 00:27:16 <QGJ>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Battle_of_Khorm Dec 01 00:27:28 <QGJ>	By my count, it's 147 words without the Bts Dec 01 00:27:46 <Toprawa>	Support, if you're still on that vote (Sorry to interrupt) Dec 01 00:28:18 <AnilSerifoglu>	Well, with this new rule, it needs to be either CAnomed, or probed by AC Dec 01 00:28:46 <QGJ>	Understood Dec 01 00:29:11 <QGJ>	Well, I don't really mind either way. I support as well Dec 01 00:29:23 <Fan26>	Support Dec 01 00:29:27 <AnilSerifoglu>	Support Dec 01 00:29:33 <Ayrehead>	Support Dec 01 00:29:36 <AnilSerifoglu>	Imperators votes Support Dec 01 00:29:46 <CorellianPremier>	~support Dec 01 00:30:08 <QGJ>	Anil's proposal is officially approved Dec 01 00:30:26 <QGJ>	Anyone else have something? Dec 01 00:30:57 <Fan26>	Nothing here Dec 01 00:31:01 <AnilSerifoglu>	That's it from me Dec 01 00:31:23 <CorellianPremier>	I'm good Dec 01 00:32:07 <Ayrehead>	Nope Dec 01 00:32:16 <QGJ>	Okay, then we are done Dec 01 00:32:26 <QGJ>	Fred does the paperwork and schedules next meeting Dec 01 00:32:45 <QGJ>	Thank you for participating in the 61st EC Cup Dec 01 00:32:48 <AnilSerifoglu>	Thanks for hosting, QGJ! Dec 01 00:32:49 <Ayrehead>	Thanks for hosting it QGJ! Dec 01 00:32:49 <Fan26>	Thanks for hosting! Dec 01 00:32:52 <QGJ>	You're all winners! Dec 01 00:32:56 <CorellianPremier>	yep, thanks. Dec 01 00:32:56 <QGJ>	https://imgur.com/gallery/9H8E4/comment/661382237 Dec 01 00:33:06 <Ayrehead>	See you all later