Talk:Confederacy of Independent Systems/Legends

Does the Confederacy of Independent Systems have a capital world like the Old Republic, Galactic Empire, New Republic and even the Yuuzhan Vong? Most galactic governments have capitals. 222.152.183.188 Geonosis is the capital. The other capitals are Raxus Prime, Utapau, and Mustafar.


 * The CIS was not around long enough to declare a capital world, although surely one of its founding worlds would have been chosen. With its leadership decentralized and constantly on the move, it does not appear that it had a capital. --SparqMan 21:52, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * The "capital" worlds were Raxus Prime (the "founding" capital before Geonosis), Geonosis (until the capture of the planet shortly after the events of Episode II), and finally Mustafar. There were probally other capital worlds throughout the Clone Wars, but I don't believe Utapau was a capital. In the RotS comic adaption, a B-1 battle droid approaches Grievous and reports that the planet has been captured. Which probally means Utapau was never a capital. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 00:20, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Separatist Union
While used interchangeably by the sloppy Lucas, are we sure that all Separatists were CIS members? Dooku also talks about the Separatist Union, and CIS appeared later in the process. Just trying to clear that up --SparqMan 04:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Head of State
I find it funny how, according to the article, Sidious led the Confederacy two years AFTER it was dissolved. Plus, it was ruled by the Separatist Council and Dooku, not Sidious. --Imperialles 15:10, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) I got rid of Sidious. Some one put it back. Dylankidwell 20:59, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Whoever put that in plucked it out of their own head, methinks. I've never seen any source saying the CIS existed AFTER Rots, nor that it was directly ruled by sidious. It should be deleted as non-canonical QuentinGeorge 06:32, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Removed. On another note, wasn't the Confederacy ruled by the Separatist Council, instead of Dooku? --Imperialles 06:35, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but he was "Head of State" - kind of like a King or President in a Parliamentary System. The Council was more like a Parliament/Prime Minister type thingy. QuentinGeorge 06:47, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Um, Sidious was the secret de facto leader of the CIS. So therefore, I put it back into the table. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 22:24, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

The Empire of the prequel trilogy
The Confederacy is the Galactic Empire of the prequel trilogy. -- Eddyward Telerionus 04:18, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * They're the bad guys, if that's what you mean. Please stop pointing out blatantly obvious similarities such as this one. They are inconsequential to this wiki. Thank you. – Aidje talk 04:50, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, stop pointing out all the information we already know. But in reality, it's not an empire. They're just the bad guys. But stop pointing out these facts that we've known for a while. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 11:51, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I didn't say that the Confederacy was an empire. I'm just comparing things in the prequel trilogy to things in the original trilogy. Stop posting negative comments against me. -- Eddyward Telerionus 20:35, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Then stop posting information which everyone already knows. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 20:51, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Jack Nebulax, by responding, you're only prompting him to do it again. If it's useless, then ignore it. --SparqMan 21:34, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

High Human Culture
Did the Confederacy of Independent Systems play a role in the emergence of High Human Culture? The Trade Federation was dominated by Neimoidians, the InterGalactic Banking Clan was dominated by Muuns, the Techno Union by the Skako, the Commerce Guild by the Gossam and the Corporate Alliance by the Koorivar.

The Confederacy's ship and weapons manufacturers were also dominated by aliens. For example, Haor Chall Engineering was controlled by the Xi Char and Baktoid by the Geonosians. The Quarren also manufactured many of the Separatist capital ships most notable the Providence-class Carrier-Destroyers. However, most of the companies loyal to the Republic are dominated by Humans such as Kuat Drive Yards and Rendili StarDrive. Most of its leaders and agents were also aliens with the exception of Count Dooku.

General Grievous was a Kaleesh. The Confederacy also invaded Human worlds and sectors such as Humbarine and the Weemell Sector. Must of the Republic's military was dominated by Humans. If the Confederacy won the war, they would have favoured aliens. The Clone Wars must have divided Humans and Aliens. This explains why the Galactic Empire favours Humans to aliens.

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 * Well, I think the EU made it clear that humanocentrism was well established unofficially in the Old Republic, the Empire just made it law, expanded it, and reduced the rights of nonaliens. But you may be right. I also recall hearing a theory that the Clone Wars were why no one likes droids in the OT and post-ROTJ EU. Kuralyov 17:23, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Image
Instead of the picture of those three, can someone find an image of the Confederacy flag to put up? The NR, Empire, Old Republic, etc., all have flags as their images.Kuralyov 17:23, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * I found nothing online. --Master Starkeiller 18:18, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * Why do we have to have that picture up there? All it does is take up space. Plus, it's not even a good image of Grievous. Plus, this topic is about the Separatists, not Ventress, Durge, and Grievous. That's why I'm removing it once again. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 22:06, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * CIS logo cannot be found. Might need to be scanned. By the way, I did see the logo of the Trade Federation, however it was 1 by 1 pixel. It might possible to find that in a larger format. -- Riffsyphon1024 22:15, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, all we have to do is take the logo of it from another source, say, the image of Grievous's capture of Duro where the flag is, zoom in on the logo, fix it up a bit, and there's the CIS flag. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 22:24, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * The picture I put there is nice. That is why I scanned it from my comic book, uploaded it, and put it there. At first I placed it in the wrong place, but Riffsyphon1024 corrected me. It is now were it belongs: Key Members of the Confederacy. It isn't harming the article, so please stop removing it. I agree that we should put the logo there. I cropped it from the Duro picture but it didn't look good... If anyone knows any other pictures with it, he may do the same, perhaps it will work. --Master Starkeiller 23:14, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * You might think that picture is nice, but it's not a good shot of any of the three, really. It's only Grievous's head and the crappy animated bodies of Durge and Ventress. At least get a nice looking picture up there of the three. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 19:39, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)