Talk:Jorus C'baoth

Assassination
Is this right, that the assassination plot was directed at Palpatine? I read elsewhere that he was the one behind the assassination (Outbound Flight Project), which does not jibe. --Maru 21:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * He staged an assassination plot on himself. He's done it before, with the Jedi Ronhar Kim. --QuentinGeorge 21:11, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * I should have been more specific- the OFP page led me to believe that Palpatine was less than pleased that his plot was foiled, although he should have been if he was indeed the target, the foiling of which would have then been the desired result. So who is wrong here, and what is the source? --Maru 03:34, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * I have corrected the other page. It should be noted that it was actually Palpatine under the guise of Sidious that orderered the attempt, and the foiling of it was part of his plans. Just think about the staged "rescue" at the beginning of ROTS. Palpatine/Sidious was never in any actual danger, but that's not what everyone else would think.QuentinGeorge 05:54, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Image
We really should remove the image, as it's of Joruus C'baoth, not Jorus. --LtNOWIS 00:51, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Is there an image of Jorus floating about? --Silly Dan 00:57, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Not that I know of. Jorus has only appeared in the novel of Cloak of Deception so far, however his appearance was described as basically a big, white haired and bearded Jedi, so I guess he looks kinda similar. --QuentinGeorge 01:03, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Well, Joruus is a clone of Jorus, you should expect them to look alot alike. --Maru 04:01, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Yeah, but one was a renknowned Jedi Master, and the other was an insane hermit who had been living inside a mountain for half a century. Kuralyov 17:51, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)


 * Correction: the one was an ambitious, powerful, Force-user and Master who was also gregarious, political, and manipulative, who lived in luxury and the other... wait, actually, that goes for both of them. But Joruus was not a hermit (witness the whole, y'know, 'ruling a kingdom as omnipotent leader' hobby), and he was living in an advanced, exceedingly well-equiped, Imperial base, which is not that shabby a place to live (and he might have been living in a palace in the city. I can't really recall.) --Maru 20:22, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)


 * Boba Fett is also a clone of Jango Fett, yet they're not completely identical in appearance. If one exists somewhere, we need a picture of Jorus for this article. 68.47.234.131 13:52, 19 February 2006 (UTC)


 * The Thrawn Trilogy Sourcebook has a picture on p. 54 which is presumably the original Jorus. He looked crazy even before he was cloned.  -- Silly Dan  21:33, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * Considering that that image is of a man in the same clothes as Joruus, playing with Force lightning with a nearly psychopathic look on his face . . . I'm willing to bet that the picture is of the clone, even though its placement suggests otherwise. jSarek 08:57, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)


 * Will Outbound Flight have a picture of C'baoth? -- SFH 19:07, 23 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * The cover doesn't, though hopefully the Japanese cover will, when it's eventually released - Kwenn 20:33, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, until the Japanese book hopefully shows us Jorus, should we put a picture of Joruus from one of the comics (since the one from the cover isn't exactly great). Not the same one as Joruus', but just another comic pose? I'll try to find one that best brings to mind crowd-splitting Jorus, so that the judging can begin --Sauron18 02:23 25 June 2006 (CDT)
 * How about this one?

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/2994/jocb37nx.jpg

I know its B&W, but it's a good portrait shot IMO --Sauron18 03:00 25 June 2006 (CDT)
 * We are getting the first official Jorus image soon, from the Japanese cover of Outbound Flight. Here is a version of the cover:

http://img287.imageshack.us/img287/4168/ofae7.jpg

Can't wait until we have it in High Res :) --Sauron18 20:11, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * QFT. Jorus reminds me of McKellen's Gandalf there. And Obi-Wan looks very cool. Where did you find that image? - Kwenn 20:39, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, starwars.jp had a very small version of it, so I copied the Japanese lettering that I (after a little experimentation) deciphered to mean "Outbound Flight", I put it on google and eventually found it :P --Sauron18 21:10, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * THat's a great cover, especially the image of Jorus. Can't wait until we get it into the article. HavetStorm 16:37, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, now that we have the image there is another question. Should we leave it cropped as it is or let it be a little longer despite the fact that Palpatine’s face is in there? I think we should let it elongate, because Palps doesn’t really cover that much, and the with the crop the picture looks slightly squashed to me, I dunno. Opinions? --Sauron18 21:07, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Err, wait, forget it, it looks good like that, it was just looked a bit too small in the article, but I fixed that.--Sauron18 22:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Chronology
Has anyone figured out how the seemingly disparate timeline that Luke finds about C'baoth early on in DFR works now?Thanos6 18:33, 15 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * The Revised Core Rulebook of the WoTC Star Wars game puts Jorus' birth as 70 BBY, and we know that the Outbound Flight takes place in 27 BBY, therefore a simple matter of working out the other dates from there. QuentinGeorge 21:23, 15 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * I mean the one that Luke finds in Coruscant's computers, about Jorus being born 112 years before the Empire being founded and all that. Thanos6 18:33, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * That one's outdated. It's only useful for the timespans in his bio. QuentinGeorge 21:44, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * *blinks* Huh? If it's outdated and incorrect, how is it useful at all? Thanos6 21:46, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * The birthdate can't be used, but the intervals can "ie, he spent five years at this academy, then went here...blah, blah." QuentinGeorge 21:49, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah, right. Well, I've added the other stuff to a Behind the scenes note. Thanos6 21:54, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Quote

 * Any person with Outbound Flight got a good quote that illustrates C'baoth's personality? QuentinGeorge 22:38, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Jorus and Joruus
Does anyone else get the feeling that Jorus C'baoth seems a little unstable? Maybe not as much as his clone, but I still must ask: was Joruus really suffering from clone madness, or was the madness gained from Jorus? -- SFH 21:16, 22 February 2006 (UTC) I think that Joruus was suffering from both the clone madness, but in another way, he had Jorus's insanical behaviour. I would say its a mix of the two. Master Halcyon
 * He does seem to have something of a Dooku-all-force-users-are-destined-to-rule-complex going on, but his clone is a lot more nuts. --Erl 23:51, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * He's powerful that's for sure. Amazing he and Dooku didn't become pals.
 * Jorus was just an arrogant old man taking very extreme measure in many issues, while Joruus could be really crazy sometime. Darth Kevinmhk 02:31, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Birth
Why and where was his birth retconned from 131BBY to 70BBY? 24.197.141.33 01:44, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
 * The Revised Core Rulebook of the WoTC Star Wars game puts Jorus' birth as 70 BBY. Why?  I dunno. Thanos6 05:39, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
 * yeah that seems strange...

Using the Jedi template vs. the Dark Jedi template

 * Why can't the Dark Jedi template be used? At the end of Outbound Flight he falls to the Dark Side when he begins to use the Force choke on Thrawn.  It's even mentioned in the article itself that he fell to the dark side. DarthMaul431 15:14, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Falling to the Dark Side for a few seconds doesn't make him a Dark Jedi. QuentinGeorge 06:32, 19 April 2006 (UTC)