Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Shadow trooper

Shadow trooper

 * Nominated by: TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg  AnilSerifoglu  (talk) 20:36, February 26, 2018 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: These stormtroopers can actually shoot things.

Support

 * 1) Yo.-User:Fan26 (Talk) 18:06, March 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * 2) --Lewisr (talk) 21:24, March 13, 2018 (UTC)
 * 3) -- Vitus Infinitus  Talk 21:44, March 13, 2018 (UTC)
 * 4) Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:24, April 21, 2018 (UTC)

Tommy

 * Could you please remove the shadow on the left side of the BTS image. &mdash;' Tommy-Macaroni ' Imperial Emblem.svg ( TAKE A SEAT ) 18:36, February 27, 2018 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I wasn't able to take a screenshot of the image without that text box shadow, or extract the image directly from the game files. So I have cropped that part entirely to satisfy your objection. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg  AnilSerifoglu  (talk) 18:49, February 27, 2018 (UTC)
 * I recommend sub-sectioning the BTS.
 * How does it look now? TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg  AnilSerifoglu  (talk) 22:10, March 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * Could you say they "first appeared in Star Wars canon in Star Wars Battlefront"?
 * Done. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg  AnilSerifoglu  (talk) 22:10, March 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * You should remove the full date for Battlefront, and just have the year, which can be sourced to the product itself. &mdash;' Tommy-Macaroni ' Imperial Emblem.svg ( TAKE A SEAT ) 19:04, March 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * Done, also removed the one for The Force Unleashed. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg  AnilSerifoglu  (talk) 22:10, March 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd like to see a bit of an expansion on the intro. &mdash;' Tommy-Macaroni ' Imperial Emblem.svg ( TAKE A SEAT ) 20:10, March 13, 2018 (UTC)
 * How does it look now? TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg  AnilSerifoglu  (talk) 20:38, March 13, 2018 (UTC)
 * Great!&mdash;' Tommy-Macaroni ' Imperial Emblem.svg ( TAKE A SEAT ) 20:40, March 13, 2018 (UTC)

Lewisr

 * Stormtrooper Corps is infobox exclusive --Lewisr (talk) 21:07, March 13, 2018 (UTC)
 * I thought being a stormtrooper variant automatically makes them members of the Stormtrooper Corps, but now I see that is probably my speculation. Removed that from the infobox. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg  AnilSerifoglu  (talk) 21:22, March 13, 2018 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I'd argue that its fair enough to say they're in that corps.&mdash;' Tommy-Macaroni ' Imperial Emblem.svg ( TAKE A SEAT ) 21:27, March 13, 2018 (UTC)
 * Maybe could add Imperial Army or Military at the very least but I'm not overly fussed if Anil feels otherwise --Lewisr (talk) 21:30, March 13, 2018 (UTC)
 * I feel it's better not to speculate like that, not even adding Imperial Military. For example, the death troopers are part of Imperial Intelligence. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg  AnilSerifoglu  (talk) 21:39, March 13, 2018 (UTC)

Ecks Dee

 * You have two consecutive [1] references in the Equipment section. Either one of them is redundant or you're using the wrong reference. 1358  (Talk)  21:33, April 2, 2018 (UTC)
 * Removed the redundant reference. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg  Anıl Şerifoğlu  (talk) 23:08, April 2, 2018 (UTC)
 * I tried to search for similar status articles but I can't really find anything that could be used as precedent for the layout. The closest we can come is probably the Weapons, armor, technology, and equipment articles section of the LG, and I actually think you should rename Equipment to Description; and move History below Description and Application. Thoughts? 1358  (Talk)  11:41, April 4, 2018 (UTC)
 * Since there is no section specifically for military organizations/units in the layout guide, I too searched for some similar status articles and found some kinda similar good articles (such as Twisted Star Squadron, Eighty-sixth Infantry, Special Forces black ops program and Imperial Medical Corps). But my main precedent for the layout was the featured article of clone shadow trooper. I will change the sections, if you still think that is necessary. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg  Anıl Şerifoğlu  (talk) 13:32, April 4, 2018 (UTC)
 * I think it makes sense in this case to first explain what they are and what's so special about them (like we do for starships for example), but considering there's nothing in the LG and precedent for the current layout, it's really up to you if you want to implement it or not. 1358  (Talk)  21:22, April 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * I see your point. I have changed the sections as you suggested, and renamed "Equipment" as "Description and equipment" since almost the entire paragraph is about their equipment. Please feel free to change the name if you disagree. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg  Anıl Şerifoğlu  (talk) 23:58, April 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * Very good. Would you be ok with dropping the "equipment" part altogether? I think Description on its own would suffice.
 * Done. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg  Anıl Şerifoğlu  (talk) 00:18, April 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * No other applicable quotes?
 * There are 10 different applicable quotes in total, all spoken by Admiral Ackbar to warn rebel troopers about incoming shadow troopers (you can listen them all here). In my opinion, the current one is the best by far. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg  Anıl Şerifoğlu  (talk) 00:43, April 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * You could probably put one of them in the History section, at least, if not also in the other sections. 1358  (Talk)  21:32, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
 * Added two additional quotes. I personally feel the one in the History section would work better in Description, but I am also OK with the current placement. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg  Anıl Şerifoğlu  (talk) 05:31, April 21, 2018 (UTC)
 * Is the Ackbar quote some sort of a gameplay mechanic? If not, it should be mentioned in the body.
 * Shadow troopers only appear in the survival mode, in which you play as a rebel trooper who is stranded in an Imperial-occupied territory (a planet of your choice). Before the first wave of shadow troopers arrive into battle, a hologram of Ackbar warns you about them. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg  Anıl Şerifoğlu  (talk) 00:43, April 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * "Wearing an armor similar in design to the traditional stormtrooper armor," This feels a bit misplaced. You spend the earlier sentences discussing differences in the armor, but suddenly you say they wear similar armor. This could work better if you moved the "similar" part to before you describe the differences.
 * How does it look now? TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg  Anıl Şerifoğlu  (talk) 00:18, April 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * I haven't played Battlefront, so I'm not familiar with the storyline. Do these shadow troopers appear in any missions or similar that could be noted in the History, or are they solely a multiplayer feature (or similar)?
 * Actually there isn't any actual storyline in Battlefront except for some tiny training missions. In singleplayer, they only appear in the survival mode as I've explained above. As far as the multiplayer goes, you can only wear their black armor as a cosmetics option. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg  Anıl Şerifoğlu  (talk) 00:43, April 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * I added a fact tag in the Bts for something that will require a separate reference; please have a look.
 * It should be fine now. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg  Anıl Şerifoğlu  (talk) 00:18, April 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * " it is unlikely that the shadow troopers will be included to the sequel game due to the addition of another black-colored stormtrooper[14]—the death troopers.[13]" Seeing as BF II has been released already, is this sentence still accurate? 1358  (Talk)  20:19, April 13, 2018 (UTC)
 * I would say so. The tweet was actually sent months after Battlefront II release and the game is still expanding. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg  Anıl Şerifoğlu  (talk) 00:18, April 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Make sure to update it when they stop releasing new content. :P 1358  (Talk)  21:32, April 19, 2018 (UTC)

Ayrehead

 * Why do you reference the description of the Galactic Civil War to A New Hope? Can't it just be included in the Battlefront reference? Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:30, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah it actually can, removed the redundant reference. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg  Anıl Şerifoğlu  (talk) 03:07, April 20, 2018 (UTC)