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Gorgon
Yeah, I guess I'll deal with the objections.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 12:00, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

SWE
Got something for ya. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 13:01, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Oops
Ah, sorry. I've never used the random page before, and I just forgot about the history page. I'll get it next time.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 21:19, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Scarl system
I have responded to your inquiry on the Scarl System and the Executor on my page. Briefly, the page originally said it was constructed at Fondor (unsure of the source...it was already on the page for a while). I tried to combine the two seemingly contradictory statements. See my talk page for further details. I will go and look at my wording to insure no "personal research"/fanfic hanky panky. IthinkIwannaLeia 21:51, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Light and Shadow
Hey, T&R. After finding several articles linking to the previously non-existant Jedi Nova, I instinctively created her article. However, after reading the source material, I fear the story she originates from -- as well as all the other articles based on the story -- are pure fanon (the site can be found here; I'm sure the "Fanboy Association" in the title pretty much confirms its fanon...icity? I doubt that's a word.). I'm not sure if we allow fanon articles on Wookieepedia, so do you mind taking a look into the situation during your free time? Thanks in advance, and happy editing. // ~mikah~  02:07, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for bringing this to my attention. It seems that the article is not fanon, but instead comes from a licensed story that was canceled and never released. I've added the appropriate tag signifying this at the top of the Nova article. Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:01, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Re:Your GAN activity
Sorry, I didn't know. I'm new to the whole GAN thing. Do I need to add a short summary or something of my changes into comments as a record? Thx for the tip. Soresumakashi 02:23, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You don't need to specify what changes you make to an article on the GAN page. Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:55, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Bring Back... Star Wars

 * On 17th September, you deleted the page Bring Back... Star Wars, which I created, citing that it was "nonsense". This was a real episode that aired in the UK, as you can check for yourself here. I was just wondering if you could explain to me why you felt it was appropriate to delete the page --Jinzler 08:11, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, cheers for explaining that to me. I'm guessing that it is alright for me to put something on it in List of references to Star Wars in television instead. Although, if it had aired in the US, i'm sure that it would have got enough viewers to be worthy of it's own article --Jinzler 21:18, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Executor
Hey there T&R. I saw your recently uploaded Executor image Image:ExecutorShuttle.jpg and thought I'd let you know there is already a larger/more complete version of that image in use on the site, Image:Theexecutorsheiswhite.JPG, in case you wanted to use that instead. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 18:09, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I know. I'm not a big fan of that picture, though. Too dark. There is a much cleaner version in the SOTG 2007 book I'm trying to get to replace it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:17, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * In that case, I'll try to scan it. :) VT-16 19:20, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, cool :) Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:28, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, this didn't turn out quite the way I thought it would. You be the judge. =/ VT-16 19:41, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Here's my take on the SotG Executor image. Not quite as big VT-16's but slightly darker contrast. Executor SotG -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 22:44, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Delete and block
WHY THE FUCK DID YOU DELETE MY PAGE ? 92.10.124.244 20:44, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Pepper's Pax
It's mentioned under Nogo Sistek's entry, and the info is in the second paragraph under Darlyn Boda on pages 9/10. Nesis Vod 16:00, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Gorgon
You sure love that SWE don't you? :P Anyway, (and you're probably tired of this by now), do you think you could be a little more specific as to what you would like to see there, or if possible, provide the entry? Thanks a ton.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 23:38, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I have to get the new encyclopedia for Christmas so I don't have to keep asking you. The link is a big help though.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 21:42, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Maul Stanley
Hello. I'm new at this so it's quite possible I made a mistake, but could you please explain to me why you deleted my Maul Stanley article just 5 minutes after I created it? I made the effort to substantiate the piece with no less than 10 reference links, so I can't imagine what about the entry you considered "nonsense." I would appreciate a clarification, thank you.

Cybercomic 16:53, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Not knowing what your objection is to my contribution, I have just re-posted the article. Before doing so, I gave it a subsequent review to ensure that proper guidelines have been followed. If you have further issues with this entry, I would appreciate you making them known through proper channels, rather than pulling the article outright. Thank you.

Cybercomic 18:08, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Though I appreciate you taking the time to indicate that you consider this entry "not notable" (while deleting the entire article for a second time), this is not solely for you to decide. In cases like this, the subject is to be brought up for review by other contributors and not arbitrarily pulled because one individual objects to its inclusion. As for the character being "not notable," he is easily as notable as other "notable fans" included in Wookieepedia, such as Thomas J. Spanos and The Elvis Trooper. His contributions to Star Wars fandom are tangible and of merit, otherwise they would not have been reported on by such sources as TheForce.net and the blog at StarWars.com. Maul Stanley's activities have also been reported on by such notable non-Star Wars sites as Blabbermouth.net, MetalSludge.tv, KissOnline.com and KissAsylum.com, all of which were linked in the body of the article. Clearly, these established sites consider this subject notable so I'm rather surprised that you feel the need to discount them.

I am trying to give you due consideration here, which is more than you have thus far shown me by deleting my entry twice. If you personally do not feel that the entry has merit (despite all the evidence provided), you are entitled to put the topic up for discussion. However, you are overstepping accepted boundaries and being unfair to both me and the subject by repeatedly acting as judge, jury and executioner with regard to this matter.

Cybercomic 19:44, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

RE:Ordering appearances
It seems that you are ordering appearance lists by OOU publication date, rather than IU chronological order, as they should properly be arranged. Please refrain from doing this. Only source lists are to be arranged by publication date. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:51, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I beg your pardon, but I didn't do any such edit. At least I'm not aware of that. Which article do you have on mind? -- Darth Paulus [[Image:JaingHead.svg|20px]] ( May the Force serve you well! ) 18:11, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry about my unintentional copying your original message here... I meant no harm. Also, I am wondering which articles I DID screw up, regarding appearance sections. I REALLY have no idea. Could you, please, be more specific? Aren't you just mistaken? Trust me, the last thing I wanna do is vandalism... -- Darth Paulus [[Image:JaingHead.svg|20px]] ( May the Force serve you well! ) 23:28, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

AgriCorps Meeting One
The AgriCorps will be meeting for the first time on Saturday, 4 October at 22:00 UTC. Please do your best to be there, and if you cannot, please leave your thoughts and input on the meeting page. Graestan ( Talk ) 01:25, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Wookiee Warpath Levels
Hi Toprawa and Ralltiir, could you say me why you deleted my articles about the Wookiee Warpath Levels? Kind regards,  Pranay Sobusk  ~  Talk to me  15:22, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright. I can understand that they don't need an own article, I just added them because there were redlinks to this articles on Yoda: Dark Rendezvous. Kind regards,  Pranay Sobusk  ~  Talk to me  17:04, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I've just removed them from the article. Kind regards,  Pranay Sobusk  ~  Talk to me  17:12, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Hoth
Dash Rendar flying as Rogue 12 during the Battle of Hoth is not false info.
 * I have a website saved where it says he flew as Rogue 12, thats why I edited it. I'm just trying to help, I follow the Rogues pretty close. My intention is to help, not to post wrong information.

Gorgon
I belive Ataru and I have addressed your Gorgon objections.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 01:19, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Get ready for Round 2. :) Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:22, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Gray Jedi robe
Hey there T&R. Since I'm pretty new here I wanted to make sure I understood about merging pages. Basically my understanding of it is that I add in a new paragraph into Traditional robes, cite my sources, add new refs if needed, delete everything from the Gray Jedi robe page and add a redirect to Jedi apparel. Did I miss anything? Cylka 18:01, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Will do. Thanks.  ~   Cylka   ~  18:40, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

I actually am having a problem with refs, I'm not sure I understand what's going on with them and the help pages aren't really helping me. When I footnote using an existing ref, it changes the number of that ref and all other refs - maybe this is normal? I also wanted to add a new ref and I was wondering if I'm suppossed to give it a ref name or if there's some kind of standard list for refs or something like that.  ~   Cylka   ~  19:09, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Ozzel objections
I was going to tell you the other day on IRC that I took care of your objections to the Ozzel FA nom, but since you managed to elude me, I figured I'd let you know here. Grand Moff Tranner (Comlink) 11:11, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

AgriCorps Meeting Two
Please save the date for our second meeting of the AgriCorps. If you know now that you can't make it, please give your input on the meeting page. Graestan ( Talk ) 23:08, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

What's up with my IRC?
I'm not suggesting you had something to do with this, but I have been banned - without any warning or stated reason - from the Wookieepedia IRC. I'm notifying you to see if something can't be done to find out what happened and if it can be reversed. Please see if you or another admin can address this as soon as possible. I will be notifying other admins of this development as well. Erik Pflueger  22:13, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Griff and the Executor

 * I'll chime in here really quickly: "Amise" is from Geonosis and the Outer Rim Worlds, and all three of Star Wars: The Roleplaying Game, Second Edition, Revised and Expanded, Rebellion Era Sourcebook, and GatORW mention the Executor (though Revised and Expanded does so only in an attribution of a quote regarding capital ship shields). jSarek 00:19, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, good stuff. Thanks, JS :) Toprawa and Ralltiir 00:28, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Battle of the TIE Fighter facility nomination
The Battle of the Construction Facility article GA nomination hasn't been going anywhere, you voted against it but just to let you know I addressed your problems. DjMack 01:55, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Talk: Executor

 * You deleted my section in the Executor's talk page... Why? Stormie Fan 21:23, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

New Wampa info

 * Hi, there is some new info on wampas here. As you seem to have contributed most to the wampa article and probably know most about it, I think it is best if you add the info from this source, rather than me or anyone else. I hope that is ok --Jinzler 20:45, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Alphabetized categories
Aw, sorry. Thx for the heads-up!

GA Opinion
Having never nominated anything before, and because I know you are heavily involved with both FA and GAs, I'd like to ask your opinion on whether you think an article is quality enough for me to nominate it for GA status. The article is Saboteur. Thanks in advance. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 19:30, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I decided to just take the plunge and went ahead and nominated it. Your review would be most appreciated though. :) -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 20:16, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Nevermind. I don't think it's got what it needs to ever make the standard. It's too broad a subject for all the implied instances and too limited with just the two stated sources. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 00:16, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

TFU Executor pic
I'm sorry, T&R, but I don't have the ability to take screencaps from my Xbox, nor the funds to purchase what would be necessary to try. I think you'll be best off asking some other Wookieepedians with the game. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 01:07, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It's cool. Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:13, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Executor images
Sure thing, what would you like? =) VT-16 00:58, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Here ya go! VT-16 11:30, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Back to the old photobucket:   VT-16 17:00, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Got a question for ya TR regarding your work on the Executor article (I assume you'll be replacing the existing article once you're work is complete). Are you planning to incorporate any or all of the current images in the article? Take this image, for example. It's an excellent image of the command salon and I'd hate to see it not included in any re-write. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 18:33, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * As of now, the images I definitely plan to include into the new article can be seen in the "Image repository" section of my Executor project page. I'm not really sure right now where I would include the command salon picture, and I'm trying to avoid including images that aren't specific to the Executor itself. For example, a picture of the bridge is kind of redundant since every Imperial and Executor-class Star Destroyer has an identical bridge layout. Likewise, the picture of the command salon can just as easily be applied to any Executor-class ship. So, I think it'd be more appropriate to include that image in the Executor-class Star Dreadnought article. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:47, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 19:59, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Glad it was useful! :) VT-16 23:16, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Having trouble with a user
Hello. I'm reporting to you as an admin that I'm having a trouble with a user RC-5015, who is constantly inserting fanon into articles. Examples include:


 * Three-five
 * RC-Θ288
 * RC-1138
 * Delta Squad

So, I'm asking you to warn him one last time and ban him permanently if he doesn't listen. The content he inserted is fanon crap in almost all cases, except for his own userpage. Mauser 08:38, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Got it. Graestan ( Talk ) 12:45, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Here we go again: One, Two. This time he at least didn't make any spelling and formating mistakes, but I'm still unsure if this information is correct. Mauser 04:40, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Archive?
Hey: You left a message on my page that I can't delete user's comments on my talkpage. Okay, sorry about that. Can you tell me how to "archive" them? Thanks! Kgrimes2 03:19, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Kgrimes2 03:45, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

RE: The issues
Sorry, Top; had a few things on my plate this weekend. I'll do it tonight and get them to you by tomorrow morning (my time, obviously :)) - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 08:40, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Firstly, thanks for the award. It was a nice surprise :)
 * Secondly, here we go with the FF numbers you want:


 * Pages PIE1-PIE6 (Firmus Piett)&mdash;1-2 come from #70, 3-6 come from #89
 * VAD7-VAD12 (Vader)&mdash;all come from from #19
 * HOT1-HOT6 (Battle of Hoth)&mdash;all come from #4
 * SKY10 (Luke)&mdash;#21
 * END29 (Battle of Endor)&mdash;#79
 * Hope it helps. Let me know if you need anything else. - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 12:20, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Single source referencing
I thought it's a policy that it's not allowed to source single source noms, but you live and learn. I hope you don't mind it.  Pranay Sobusk  ~  Talk  20:48, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Carrion Fly
Would you like to handle this one? // ~mikah~  00:40, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:03, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Merci beaucoup. // ~mikah~  01:11, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Trandoshan mercenary page
why did you delete the page:Trandoshan mercenary?Darth exelton 03:49, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The Wookieepedia community has come to a decision on not creating articles of that nature, such as Corellian pilots, Rodian bounty hunters, etc. Any information that might go into that article can be added to the Trandoshan page. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:10, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * thanks.Darth exelton 02:31, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I think I fixed the articles that used to link to that page, so they link to Trandoshan and mercenary pages separately. If there are other articles you remember deleting around the same time, could you please check that you've eliminated any other redlinks that might have been created?  Thanks, &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 23:15, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Bendu
I was wondering if you could change the name of the Bendu page to Insignia of Unity, here's why. Ii own all of the sources, with the exception of one, that are stated on the page and not one of them state the symbol as "Bendu". They say that the symbol was inspired by the Bendu/Jedi but never call it as such. Second the Millennium Falcon novel describes the insignia in the book and calls the symbol the "Insignia of Unity". This title also fits better with the information provided in its other sources. So I'm currently making edits to the page but I don't want to add the Falcon info till the name has actually been changed. What do you think? Apotheoses Jedi 00:31, 10 November 2008 (UTC-6)
 * I have no opinion on the matter. Feel free to move the page to a new title using the "Move" tab at the top of the page. Toprawa and Ralltiir 16:58, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

TFU Emperor on your Executor.
When the Emperor confronts Vader about Galen Marek, you mention that the Emperor is there via hologram. Is that the case in the Novel or Comic? In every version of the video game, (PS3, XBox360, Wii, PS2, PSP, at least) he appears to be physically present. He doesn't appear as the standard blue hologram, and there's no indication that he's "possessing" PROXY. Just a heads up that you may need to pull a source count. SinisterSamurai 20:04, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * That information comes explicitly from the novel and is accordingly sourced to it. In the case of TFU, I believe the novel outranks any of the video game variations on the hierarchy of canon, as it's the "original" story. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:39, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Executor sketches
Here ya go:

Hope these will do for ya. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 19:27, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Saw you had this image in your repository for the Executor update and I went ahead and cropped out the awkward looking blank area on the right and adjusted the contrast some in case you're interested. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 20:50, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I like that the ships aren't so squeezed, but I'd rather not cut off part of the Executor. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:32, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, the Executor is cut off in the currently uploaded version. It cuts off to blank black space, hence why I thought cropping would make it look better. But it's your call. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 04:16, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Nevermind. Wow. I'm slow today. It just dawned on me that it isn't cut off, it's just the angle the image is illustrated. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 04:17, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

GA noms
Just like to bring to your attention the nominations for Treis Sinde, Knights of the Old Republic, and Yeeru Chivkyrie; it's been some time since any comments (negative or positive) have been made on any of them, and with the exception of Knights, all objections have been crossed out. // ~mikah~  02:38, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Re:Klev SWE entry
Thanks. Unfortunately for me, the entry didn't contain any new info. Grand Moff Tranner (Comlink) 14:48, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Gha Nachkt
Would you mind semi-protecting Gha Nachkt so at least new and unregistered users cannot edit it. I don't want to risk the 3RR. See the talk page for what the issue is regarding. Thanks. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 20:58, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * So that I won't break the 3RR, would you mind reverting the last edits on the page until it is settled on the talk page? None of the "opposing" party seem willing to discuss it on the talk page. I would be interested to know your opinion however, as an admin, is my reasoning on the talk page valid? -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 21:17, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * We've come to an agreement on the talk page to keep the BTS comment and re-add The Clone Wars film as an appearance with the attached. If you wouldn't mind unlocking the page so we can do that. If not, and you feel it's necessary to keep the lock on until the expiring date, no worries. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 15:03, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Alliance Fleet
Hello! just curious why you removed Rusty Eagle, etc. from the Alliance Fleet page. Did I put them in the wrong categories?JustinGann 19:52, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The difference between the ships you've added and the ones I've removed is that those still up there are specific starship classes, not individual ships. Perhaps a section for individual ships would be something to add to the article, but they should be treated separately in another section. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:11, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

hi again
Curious why you removed this item from Garven Dreis page, as it is true: "Furthermore, in the comic adaptation one of Dreis's wingmen in the trench run is in a Y-wing, whereas in the movie both wingmen are in X-wings."
 * I removed it because it's trivial information that departs from anything directly related to Dreis. That sort of information would fit best in the wingmen articles. Toprawa and Ralltiir 16:20, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok. But I'm not sure which of the two wingmen it is. How about I put it in the Red Squadron article?JustinGann 16:49, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's cool. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:51, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Talk pages
Hey, I just wanted to let you know I do try to refrain from "general discussion" in page's discussion. Sorry if I crossed a line somewhere. Was it the thing about Jaxxon? I didn't intend that as a general comment. I actually thought that was information to consider working into the article, although perhaps it is more of a BTS thing. It strikes me that most readers may not realized Jaxxon is taxonomically correct (and not just in a state of denial) when he claims "I ain't no Rodent!" I really thought that meritted mentioning in either the Jaxxon or Lepi article. I wasn't just trying to make conversation. I admit I probably needed to elucidate my intent a bit more--sometimes I think I just expect people to read my mind;) JustinGann 03:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Re:Cape
That page you asked about creating cannot be created because of constantly recreated pages.(Flakie 08:32, 23 November 2008 (UTC))

Chevin
I noticed Chevin's an FGA now, although the only issue mentioned on its discussion page was the sourcing, and I think that's fixed. I suspect the AC had other issues with it, though. If you could make a note on Talk: Chevin stating what they are, I'd like to fix them...someday...and renominate. Thanks, &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 02:11, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:16, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 23:15, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Ahsoka's Delta-7B
Pic 1, Pic 2

Are pic1 and pic2 both Ashoka's starfighter? The ships themselves, as well as the droids, look super similar. I'd bet anything that they're the same thing, but I dont know if I could use the pic on other pages without having it confirmed. Dr.Kermit ( The Doctor is in ) 03:25, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I have no way of confirming whether or not the two are the same. I wouldn't assume they're both the same without some sort of official confirmation. Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:56, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, thats what I figured. Thank you for your time. Sorry if it was any trouble. Dr.Kermit ( The Doctor is in ) 04:08, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. Glad to help. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:18, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't make out the name of her R2 droid in pic 1. What does that say?JustinGann 20:30, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

A quick favor
Hi, sorry for the bother, but you were the only admin who I saw was currently active. Could you delete Nankling or merge it with Nank fly? I didn't realize they were the same until I created the former. Thanks. --ToRsO bOy 06:19, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Viper probots in the Fact Files
Hey, Toprawa&mdash;I did some checking for some dates on the commissioning on the droids and all I got was "following the Battle of Yavin". However, there were similar droids in the same Probot series manufactured by Arakyd before this time. Information is from issue 6; did you want a scan of it? - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 08:50, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * There is a VERY similar looking droid in the Republic comics c. 27 BBYJustinGann 07:31, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Page move
Could you move Star Wars: The Essential Atlas back to The Essential Atlas? All the other Essential Guides start with The Essential Guide ... or The New Essential Guide ... and don't have the "Star Wars" at the beginning, so it seems logical to have The Essential Atlas article follow suit. I'd do it myself, but as the move happened back in January, it was too long ago to allow for a revert now. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 02:21, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Redirects
I really don't think it is wrong to have a page named R2 redirecting to R2-series astromech droid. Just check the number of articles linking to it. Tomorrow it will be at the top of Wanted Pages list because of those redlinks. Most of the redirects you just purged are crappy indeed, but if you want to delete this one, let's at least update the links to it. Mauser 17:26, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not my fault other people have foolishly created redlinks to one specific R2 unit or model. "R2" could easily apply to dozens of different R2 units and models in canon. If anything, R2 should be a disambig page. Feel free to create it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:33, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Your input/opinion
I'd like your opinion on something. A user keeps adding a presumed "Battle of Hoth (Clone Wars)" and Hoth as possible appearances in the Departure webcomic based solely on the letters HOT appearing in aurebesh on the first page of the comic, where the letter following the T is not visible at all. Based on our policies, is that basis enough to speculate and put them in the Appearances for the article? -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 01:58, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not seeing the Aurebesh letters in the comic. Where are they at exactly? I would have to say that "HOT" does not equal "HOTH," as much as someone might like it to. It could be any other location that belongs with those three letters. Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:37, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It's on the very first page of the comic, bottom panel, on the box. On the screen above the box, in aurebesh, it does say "The wampa(s) are attack(ing)" (in the parethesis are how the words presumably end since the panel cuts them off) which could mean literal wampas, or maybe the GAR had a Wampa Squadron. We just don't know. Hence why I removed it. But the user added it back with the tag added. But then to add an appearance of "Battle of Hoth (Clone Wars)" based on a "possible mentioned only in aurebesh" to the list seemed totally unbased to me. You can see the discussion about it on the article talk page. Thanks for your input. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 04:54, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, this is in Transfer, I see. That's different than Departure. ;) Toprawa and Ralltiir 15:23, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I see the dilemma now. I personally would leave a BTS note explaining what's going on as you did here, then leave possible explanations for it without asserting anything necessarily. Toprawa and Ralltiir 15:30, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Question
Why'd ya erase my message on Borvo's Freighter talk page? I was trying to answer the question there.
 * Your question has been answered before you even posted this message. Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:21, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

So they are two different ships?--Lord High Executioner 03:28, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Something to check
Based on the user's comments on my talk page, could they be evading a previous perma-ban with a new user-name? -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 20:41, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, quite possibly. I just banned him for creating fanon. If you care enough, ask him when he returns what his other blocked username is. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:57, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Atrivis 7
I finally got around to addressing you GAN objection to Atrivis 7. --Eyrezer 22:53, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

problems...
I was just on the Teebo page, and the first 30 lines or so looked like a screwed up computer code, intermixed with era symbols. Am i the only one who see's this? Dr.Kermit ( The Doctor is in ) 02:51, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Two line quotes
I agree that how you have the two line quote in the Argyus article looks better. But if two line quotes are not dialogue, why do we have the Template:Dialogue then? -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 01:42, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * For quotes that are longer than 2 lines. Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:49, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I am not arguing with you. But that is not at all what the template page states by the example it uses. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 01:56, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Sneevel Sourcing
Sorry to intrude, but I am not sure if I am getting all the nuances of the appearances you are trying to communicate. My fault, undoubtedly; as I always say, English is not my native language. I cannot find this information anywhere at Wookieepedia, special pages or anything. Let's see. Again, apologies for disturbing you that much, but I would like to work in some other species in the near future, so this information would be quite useful. Thank you in advance for your time and attention. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 11:00, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Any comic-book featuring a panel with a drawing of Boles Roor will be an appearance, no tag. Similarly, if Roor is mentioned doing anything in a novel, then it's an appearance for "Sneevel" (Obviously, meaning to extrapolate to any other species with each and any of their confirmed members).
 * If a novel only mentions Roor (such as TPM novelization), or if Roor is only mentioned in the dialogue of a comic-book, then its an "Indirect mention only".
 * If a novel or a comic-book dialogue mentions the species name ("We'd all be Sneevels") without giving information, it's "mentioned only".
 * If there's a mention to the planet "doing anything" (meaning that the natives were doing it) without specifically mention the species, would it be an indirect mention? ("Cerea, for instance, will not allow the import of heavy machinery or vehicles" - meaning "the Cereans will not allow the import to their planet").
 * A source will never feature Roor, because sources do not feature anything. However, if a role-playing guide or other source mentions only Roor without naming his species (example: Ben Quadinaros in the Databank), is it an indirect mention?
 * Thank you for your help, have a look at the nomination whenever you want.--Skippy Farlstendoiro 10:37, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Page move request
Would you be willing to delete Champions of the Force so I can move Champions of the Force (disambiguation) to that page? It would be appreciated. Thanks. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 21:37, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, I'd request that you delete Champions of the Force to make way for me to revert the move of Champions of the Force (novel). It's pointless to have a disambig at the nature title when you can just have it at (disambiguation), especially when one item is miles more notable than the other two. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 21:41, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I, and another user, disagree. If it's just two items sharing the name, then the "Youmay" template works fine. As there are now three items that share the name, there is no reason not to have the novel marked as such and make "Champions of the Force" the disambig page. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 21:44, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * There is. Champions of the Force (novel) is what the majority of people will be looking for and linking to, so it makes sense to have it at its natural title. Putting disambig pages at the natural title is just pointless when one item's more notable than the others. If a disambig page must be had - and the youmay template allows you to easily link to two other articles - it should be at (disambig), rather than wasting the natural article title and making it more complicated for people linking to the novel, which is what most will be linking to. The amount of people who agree or disagree with something is somewhat irrelevant if they've not provided any actually reasons for doing so. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 21:48, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The page has been deleted. I'm going to let you guys figure this out. Please take this conversation to your own talk pages. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:51, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * You can't state with any certainty what the majority people will be looking for, unless you are psychic Ackbar. So, since there is disagreement about this, I suggest starting a discussion/vote about it on the Champions of the Force talk page. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 21:52, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Naming conventions
I have a question: can a user edit Wookieepedia policy, or does it always require a CT do change it? Because I've run across Naming conventions and I would like to clean up some Wikipedia-only stuff from there, especially as it has a Template:Cleanup on top of it. Mauser 21:55, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Excuse me?
See, this is why I've limited my diffusion to different wikis; admins like you that pick these worthless, petty fights. I replied to the user that warned me and then you come up out of nowhere trying to start shit. What the fuck is wrong with my signature? Tell me. I'm not really into reading "policies" and I'd like for you to explain it to me thoroughly, in a way I could understand. --BNK
 * Sorry about that. I had a bad day at school. But honestly, I do not like being threatened. That is unacceptable, rude, and just plain wrong. I read the policy (whew!) and I found my mistake. Just don't do that again, K? --BNK

Account troubles
I have had several account problems, a few months back i created my account, but when i went on vacation i forgot my password. So, i created a new account but it was banned for being a sock. Ever since then ive tried to have one account but it keeps getting blocked for being a sock, my last acc was Twi' Lek but it was also banned by you. I was just wondering if There was a way i could just get one account that wouldn't get get banned. Thanks--Jedi Assassin 00:58, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

ACapproved
Does this template not just correspond to the requirement for 2 AC votes? --Eyrezer 04:49, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Trandoshan mercenaries
That page was redirected to fix a strange bug that affects Special:Broken redirects. It shows up on the list, despite being deleted. I discussed it with Culator via IRC beforehand. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 02:46, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Re:Categories

 * I do normally categorize the articles that I create, but when I created the Revelator article yesterday, I could not think of an appropriate category off the top of my head, so I just put the categoryless template in and hoped that someone else could do this for me. However, if this bothering you, then I will not do this any more in the future --Jinzler 19:18, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

My GA nomination went idle
I watched my nomination disappear as no-one cared enough to comment on the improvements, good or bad. How long do I have to wait until I can open the article for nomination into a Good Article again? VT-16 13:12, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Most of things I have addressed, I also find no other ship manufacturer besides Fondor, which I will add, the picture should stay due to it not being one single class, and the other complaints from the other posters, are too vague to even consider. If I don't know what they want, I can't put it in the article. =/ VT-16 12:20, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Banned for saying the miss star wars thing was dumb?
i was stating my opinion i don't know that you cant do that on here.Here is what i said "Man is stuff like this that makes me embarrassed to be a star wars fan lol Miss Star Wars what is wrong with you people". If stuff like this hurts your feelings you are going to have a hard life
 * Yes, so you better keep your opinions to yourself. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:59, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

You left me a message...
Hello,

you left this message on my board, "Please do not add nonsense to Wookieepedia. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the Jundland Wastes sandbox. Thank you. Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:30, 24 December 2008 (UTC)"

Just wondering what nonsense I added? This way it will keep me from making the same mistake... Thanks ---Echoes- 17:29, 24 December 2008 (UTC)-Echoes-

Emperor's Shadow Guard and Imperial Sovereign Protector
I think these articles are talking about the same thing Imperial Sovereign Protector and Emperor's Shadow Guard could you take a look?

List purge
You said that you should be notified about every new List prepared for deletion. Here's one. Mauser 16:24, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Very good. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:36, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Page delete/move
I inadvertently marked Paarty On! as CSD before realizing I needed to rever the move of that article by User: Mulgarath. Now I can't revert the move. Can you delete Paarty On! and then move Paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarty On!Panty On!Rock n' roll on!Rock on! back to it. Thanks. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 04:01, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Visas Marr GA
Hey Toprawa. I've re-sourced the Visas article and I was wondering if you could take a look at it again to see if it was done correctly and if there was anything else that needed to be done. Thanks a lot. Cylka  -talk- 12:42, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking a look at the article so quickly. I've gone over the article again and I believe (hopefully) that I have caught all of the problems with ref tags and grammer. Cylka  -talk- 01:00, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

AustinLtd.
Because i submitted the first picture for that article as AustinLtd., an earlier account, and so i signed my name again as that just now agreeing with that new picture, as i qoute said: "That is much better than MY picture!" If i signed clonehunter, he would be like, "wait, what picturre did he submit? the only other picture in the history was submitted by AustinLtd., not Clonehunter! I'm so confused! Help me Chuck Norris!!!" Okay, probally not the chuck norris thing, but you know what i'm saying.---Clonehunter 20:22, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Sneevel (or something)
Thank you for your interest; I've been doing KSC and was wanting to FAN it. But I decided to start with the Pouffra Circuit and, as soon as Roor and Sneevel go one way or another, I was to turn to KSC/FAN; simply putting FAN on the back burner. When I'm done, I'll re-read Sneevel and nominate it with KSC. All of this - including these lines, particularly these lines - should have came earlier, but unfortunately I've been ill since the 22th and could not even read. Thank you again and I'll see you in the noms :)--Skippy Farlstendoiro 17:40, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

RE:Death Star Designer
Well, first there is a small picture of her with the caption:"WARNING, age 20, security level high" (or something like that, I can't remember exactly)

Second, she is mentioned in the introductory message from Tarkin. Here's the quote:"Security is tight here at the Maw, especially now that notorious Rebel spy Rianna Saren has been spotted in system." QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force... 23:41, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It is one of the special moves. Rianna takes Zeeo, together they jump and when they reach the ground, a wave of energy of some kind appears, the ground around them starts trembling and all enemies are knocked off of their feet. QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force...[[Image:Quigonheadshot.jpg|16px]] 11:57, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Re:Wampa
I will get back to you on this in a few days --Jinzler 23:09, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * On page 24, "you're Wampameat" is given as an example of the type of phrases players can use in their interaction with each other --Jinzler 20:58, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Arvel Crynyd

 * Does the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia indeed indicate he was in control of his A-Wing when it flew into the Executor, or is that not mentioned? When you cleaned up Chiraneau, you changed the sentence to say the Executor was hit by a wayward A-Wing piloted by Crynyd. What's the real case? I always thought myself that it was out of control and happened to hit the ship, but apparently from what Grand Moff Tranner says, it is indicated in the CSWE that Crynyd was in control of the A-Wing. 71.233.247.70 17:36, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Verification
Might I wonder how exactly were this articles verified? None of them still has a single source to prove the canonicity.
 * Droid Invasion, Intelligence of a Droid (episode), Twilight Disaster - possible fanon titles, no source whatsoever.
 * Mark IV recon droid and R-4 recon droid - no source for the name and BTS, why should it be different from R-1 recon droid?
 * Koodan - almost certainly fanon, see Herglic.
 * Mauser 16:32, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * . Toprawa and Ralltiir 16:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I marked them with, what else could I do? Mauser 17:09, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The Verify tag is really used for articles that are created that have no Appearances or Sources whatsoever. Once they are listed with appearances or sources, it's generally safe to remove the Verify tag. Whether or not they are fanon from there is a different matter, which is why we have the template. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:20, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, then I guess it would be safe to list speculative TCW episode titles for speedy and redirect Koodan to the Herglic per TCSWE. I'll leave Battlefront recon droids intact, as R-1 recon droid, which article was created at the same time and by the same guy as the other two, got an entry in The Force Unleashed Campaign Guide. Mauser 17:25, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Go for it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:40, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Unidentified pages in Duel of the Droids
Why should the unidentified pages from Duel of the Droids have been deleted ? I see now reasons !!!!!! --Clone Commander Lee 19:37, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

End of 2008 status report: Wormie
I realize that the original goal I set&mdash;which was to nominate Luke for GA by the end of 2008&mdash;was not accomplished. For one, I didn't know exactly how much stuff there is out there on Luke. Turns out, about half of all continuity. Two, I've been distracted with other, smaller projects, particularly over the past few months. However, I've not given up on this idea, and I'm hoping to get a lot more of it done in 2009! Cheers. Atarumaster88  ( Talk page ) 20:22, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Just in case you're curious as to where this little project stands, here are the statistics:
 * 1) Total length: 309 kilobytes, which is 90 KB longer than the actual Luke Skywalker article. Does not include material on the second page.
 * 2) 110 sources crossed off the expansion list.
 * 3) Unique references: 143
 * 4) Net growth over 2008: 180 KB.

Bidness
Hey, sorry I forgot all about this. I'll check it for you tonight and get the answer to you tomorrow morning (my time, obviously)! Sorry again. - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 08:26, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, here we go:-


 * 1) From #48; BOU9-10 "Bounty Hunters - 4-LOM"
 * 2) From #61; BOU15-16 "Bounty Hunters - Zuckuss"
 * Sorry you had to wait so long for this. - Cavalier One [[Image:FarStar Logo.jpg|20px]]( Squadron channel ) 01:26, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

No prob on the "unsourced statements"
In reference to this warning, okay, no problem. But if I ever make a small mistake again, please at least reference what in the world you're even talking about. And honestly, I feel like an established user should get a "hey, did you mean to do ____" rather than "Warning" plastered on their talk page. ;) Wildyoda 01:58, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

RE:Saren Insider 90
I don't know, and I don't have this issue. I've just found this information in the CUSWE, and I thought it is a pretty reliable source. Could you ask someone who has the magazine to check? QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force... 19:06, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll check. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:30, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: GAN review
Sorry, I'll strike that post. I was originally going to leave it to someone else, but after two days, I noticed that no-one else had reviewed it, and I had time on my hands, so I did a copy-edit (I managed to fix a lot of tense errors). I've since started reading through the BtS of all articles I review. So, yeah, I don't think I need to abstain that vote. 03:57, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * If you have yet to read through the article's BTS, I would request as a matter of formality that you refrain from voting, because it compromises the review system. Anyone can just vote. I would ask that you please read through Behind the scenes sections if you're going to actively review. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:00, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry if you didn't understand my last post; I'll try to reiterate it in different words, Basically, I have since read the BtS of the article in question (and all subsequent articles I have reviewed), and after a copy-edit, I think it's OK for GA. So now that it has been done, I feel there is no longer a need to remove that vote. Thanks for the heads up, 04:43, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Categories
No problem :) vovazl 20:45, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Gree
I must request you to fully protect CC-1004. The number of reverts over the last hours is definitely unacceptable. Mauser 05:15, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Editing
Sure buddy I was done any way--Bull36 05:20, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

alright--Bull36 05:22, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

One more thing why am I the only one getting in trouble when Mauser is the one that started the editing War--Bull36 05:35, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Alright man i guess whoever tells first gets the other person in trouble.--Bull36 05:39, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

GAN
Hey, Tope. It'd be appreciated if you could elaborate on your objections on the Peragus II GAN, as requested. Cheers! -- Darth tom  (Imperial Intelligence)  17:39, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

The circle is now complete
I, Graestan the Humbled, being of notably sound mind and greatly restored competency, hereby award you, Toprawa the Merciless and Ralltiir the Deliberate, with the Master and Apprentice Award, in my opinion the highest honor a Wookieepedian can achieve, for helping me get back on my feet with article reviewing, keeping me up-to-date on the processes and finer points of the wiki, and teaching me the value of thoroughness in writing articles and researching sources as well as the importance of sticking to one's guns after making a tough decision. Green Squadron pilot (Battle of Endor) would not be the article it has grown to become in the past forty-eight hours without your assistance, and I would continue to be resting on my laurels with dulled blade without your encouragement and rivalry in recent weeks. Now you are the Master. Graestan ( Talk ) 06:37, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Star Wars PocketModel TCG: Base Set
What is the point of all the PockeModel pages?--Bull36 05:48, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Information. Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:51, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Objections
If you could e-mail or message me with the specific instances of your objections to the Peragus II GAN, it'd be appreciated. Thanks! -- Darth tom  (Imperial Intelligence)  22:02, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

AC Meeting Six
AC Meeting Six has been scheduled for Sunday, February 15. If you cannot attend, we ask that you leave your notes on the meeting page. Thank you. Grand Moff Tranner (Comlink) 23:35, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: Editing summaries
Go to hell, Toprawa and Ralltiir and keep your arrogant bullshit off of my talk page -- all I'm going to say about your post is that you are calling the kettle black. I don't really care if you feel that a response from me was unnecessary, but that's all I am going to say. I'm going to take a page out of the "Arrogant Book of Toprawa" and say "Your response to this message is unnecessary, since I am not going to engage in further debate." Thanks for your damn time, and no problem about fixing the glaring problems with GA's that I wrote. Greyman ( Talk ) 16:41, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Trooper 17 and Trooper 35
hey man can you check out trooper 17 and trooper 35 articles people are saying that they are fanon but i am pretty sure they are not.--Bull36 09:14, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Equipment not a section on its own?
You said here that "Equipment should not be a dedicated section, per LG", but Layout Guide does have it listed as a suggested section. Are there two versions of the LG lying around? I don't care either way, but we should make sure things are consistent. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 03:04, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Imperial era vs Imperial Period

 * I noticed that you just moved back a couple Imperial-timeframe battles from (Imperial era), back to (Imperial Period), after I just changed them. The reason I did this was because the Dawn of Defiance events were the only articles on the site to used (Imperial Period), as opposed to (Imperial era), which is used by a lot of articles, so I moved them just to bring them into line with the rest of the site. If you think (Imperial Period) is more appropriate, could you perhaps consider moving all the articles on this site using (Imperial era) to that, just so that were can keep them all the same --Jinzler 22:28, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Executor TFU databank entry
From the PSP version: "Darth Vader's personal starship, the mammoth Super Star Destroyer is currently under construction in the remote reaches of the Outer Rim. Designed primarily to serve as a symbol of the Emperor's unlimited power and resources, its size and shape are meant to inspire fear and terrify entire systems into submission. When completed, the one-of-a-kind vessel will be armed with over a thousand weapons, and serve as the flagship of Darth Vader's fleet. Along with its numerous weapons, the starship will carry two full wings of TIE fighters, totaling 144 ships, along with 200 other combat and support vessels; 38,000 ground stormtroopers; and enough garrison bases and Imperial walkers to destroy any planetary opposition. Currently, however, the Executor is home only to Darth Vader, his secret Apprentice, PROXY, and thousands of construction droids working tirelessly to complete the starship."

I'll plan on checking the 360 version's databank sometime today or early tomorrow. Grand Moff Tranner (Comlink) 16:33, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Inqmoot 23
The twenty-third Inq meeting has been scheduled for Saturday, February 21st at 7pm Eastern time. Your presence or input on the meeting page would be appreciated. Graestan ( Talk ) 15:59, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

A request
I have a request for you. I know that a policy exist that requires for all Appearances and Sources listed in the article to be italized, but I cannot find a link to it. Could you please point it to me? Mauser 06:39, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I was asking because I have a dispute with User:TheAinMAP, who is known to constantly de-italize appearances for short stories of various kind. He is sure that this is the way they should be and I failed to prove the opposite so far, because he states that this is not written in the policy. Mauser 06:54, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. Mauser 07:15, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Keyis era
Umm...that was probably the result of the article being set in the Rebellion era (before 5 ABY, the official start of the era), but still referencing the New Republic. If anything, I suppose, it should be the Rebellion era tag, rather than the NR one. What do you think?

Incidentally, the text story from the start of Chapter 6 in the Rebel Alliance Sourcebook is present in the 1st edition. - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 18:01, 3 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I was going by the official publication eras, which I believe we use for our era timeframes. I'm still confused by this; officially he appears in a Rebellion era story, but the timeframe indicates the NR has been formed. Perhaps leaving the eras as they are is the best option for now? - Cavalier One [[Image:FarStar Logo.jpg|20px]]( Squadron channel ) 18:31, 3 February 2009 (UTC)