Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Leyli

Leyli

 * Nominated by: OtterSurf (talk) 16:20, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: This particular Lady deserves some recognition.

Imp

 * Full publication date for the comic, please.  Imperators II (Talk) 17:19, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * Does the comic itself actually provide the full publication date? If not, you should use a source that does.  Imperators II (Talk) 18:00, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * Dark Horse site. Is there a special citation? OtterSurf (talk) 18:32, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * Here is the category for all the Internet citation templates we have. I'd recommend Marvel, though, since they're the license holder for comics now and also have an entry for the comic.  Imperators II (Talk) 18:48, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * Brilliant! Thanks. OtterSurf (talk) 19:03, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * Please reference accurately, nothing about Leyli herself in the BTS can be sourced to the Marvel site, just the date.  Imperators II (Talk) 07:51, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. OtterSurf (talk) 08:15, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * CSWECite should be implemented in the corresponding reference.  Imperators II (Talk) 17:19, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * OtterSurf, if you're going to nominate articles for status, you need to familiarize yourself with our site's policies governing the composition of those articles. Please read what the Manual of Style has to say about the usage of . Imperators II (Talk) 18:00, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. OtterSurf (talk) 18:32, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * "Shortly after the Battle of Endor" doesn't necessarily correspond to 4 ABY. Please revise the wording. And please note that references should be written as if they were self-contained micro-articles themselves, so phrasing like "this year" or "after this" should be avoided.  Imperators II (Talk) 17:19, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * I'd still like to see the date for Endor.  Imperators II (Talk) 18:00, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * The comics don't give one. OtterSurf (talk) 18:20, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * Other sources do.  Imperators II (Talk) 18:21, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. OtterSurf (talk) 18:32, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * Context for Rogue Squadron, Vader, Palpatine, Luke, Wedge, please.  Imperators II (Talk) 17:19, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * Vader and Palpatine were Dark Lords of the Sith, not just any Sith Lords. Please pipelink accordingly.  Imperators II (Talk) 18:00, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. OtterSurf (talk) 18:32, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * I actually think that it's more important to identify Palpatine as the Galactic Emperor here rather than a Sith Lord.  Imperators II (Talk) 07:51, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. OtterSurf (talk) 08:11, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * Please link Weir to the Empire and the Empire's "defeat" to the Battle of Endor.  Imperators II (Talk) 17:19, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * All sorted. OtterSurf (talk) 17:44, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * I think you should refer to the Empire as the Galactic Empire upon its first mention.  Imperators II (Talk) 18:00, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * Yup. OtterSurf (talk) 18:32, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * So please do so.  Imperators II (Talk) 07:51, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * In the intro or body? I'll do both. OtterSurf (talk) 08:08, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. OtterSurf (talk) 08:15, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * Please split up the first sentence of the article's body. As you're doing that, I suggest moving the specific time frame of a week after Endor to where you mention the Rogues' mission, and maybe just leave something general like "during the Galactic Civil War" for the lead sentence that describes Leyli's station.  Imperators II (Talk) 07:51, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * Fixed. OtterSurf (talk) 08:21, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * Please name the writer of the comic in the BTS.  Imperators II (Talk) 07:51, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. OtterSurf (talk) 07:59, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * The Marvel link doesn't work.  Imperators II (Talk) 07:51, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * It only works if I direct it to the main Rogue Leader page, so I've done that. OtterSurf (talk) 08:08, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * It also works if you direct it to the specific issue page, but you have failed to follow the instructions on the citation template's documentation page.  Imperators II (Talk) 08:49, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * I've followed the instructions and it still won't work. OtterSurf (talk) 09:50, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, fixed. OtterSurf (talk) 09:55, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * Good. Now the backup link should also point to an archived version of the specific issue page.  Imperators II (Talk) 09:56, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * Already done. OtterSurf (talk) 10:13, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * The actual title of the Marvel product page should be presented in the template, as opposed to your own description.  Imperators II (Talk) 07:51, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * Fixed. OtterSurf (talk) 08:08, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * The product page titles aren't italicized.  Imperators II (Talk) 08:49, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * Of course not. Fixed. OtterSurf (talk) 08:52, September 21, 2019 (UTC)

Anil

 * Please follow the instructions in the Layout Guide for the article's sections. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg  Anıl Şerifoğlu  (talk) 21:24, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * Uuuurrrgh. Fixed. OtterSurf (talk) 08:15, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * Isn't Leyli shown wearing any particular clothing? If so, that would warrant an Equipment section. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg  Anıl Şerifoğlu  (talk) 10:58, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * Added. OtterSurf (talk) 11:16, September 21, 2019 (UTC)

Toprawa

 * After looking at the comic, I find the infobox image to be a poor crop. It unnecessarily cuts off part of her fur on the left side of the panel, presumably because the artist illustrated the character partially outside of the comic panel itself (you'll see what I mean if you look at the comic), so the original uploader thought it needed to be cut there, but it doesn't. The image would look much better without any portion being cut off. Please reupload with the appropriate cropping. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:59, September 30, 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. The image is a bit smaller, but it's the best I could get (I cropped from a hi-res source). OtterSurf (talk) 08:49, October 1, 2019 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, replaced with enlarged version. I used Bicubic Smooth to get the optimum result. OtterSurf (talk) 08:57, October 1, 2019 (UTC)
 * The new version you've uploaded is of remarkably lower resolution than the original. You need to reupload it in superior digital quality. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:52, October 1, 2019 (UTC)
 * I take it you mean from a digital copy of the comic? OtterSurf (talk) 20:29, October 1, 2019 (UTC)
 * GAN Rule 14: "...include a reasonable number of images of the highest quality to illustrate the article, as source availability permits." In 2019, you should never be uploading a comic image that doesn't come up from a digital version, except in the exceedingly rare cases where no digital version exists. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:31, October 1, 2019 (UTC)
 * Done! OtterSurf (talk) 17:26, October 3, 2019 (UTC)
 * I've chosen my fave pic of Leyli for the infobox. Just trying a little something. OtterSurf (talk) 17:38, October 3, 2019 (UTC)
 * Before we proceed, would you mind telling me where you found these digital images? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:20, October 5, 2019 (UTC)
 * Purchased the comic on Comixology. OtterSurf (talk) 18:26, October 5, 2019 (UTC)

Spooky

 * Add context for Tralus.
 * Done. OtterSurf (talk) 15:38, October 3, 2019 (UTC)
 * I see usage of pronouns throughout the article, but it doesn't appear explicitly say she is female within the article body.
 * Fixed. OtterSurf (talk) 15:38, October 3, 2019 (UTC)
 * "She expressed her fear of the Sith Lord Darth Vader and Galactic Emperor Palpatine; initially doubting Jedi Knight Luke Skywalker's reports of Vader's death and the Empire's defeat at Endor, she was convinced by his assurances and, to avoid fear and panic in the community, Leyli decided to keep her queen out of the loop until the Rebels had defeated Weir." - I feel like that's a rather run-on sentence, and could be split.
 * Done. OtterSurf (talk) 15:38, October 3, 2019 (UTC)
 * "traveled to Tralus in hot pursuit of Galactic Empire General Weir" I believe it would be better to say 'the Galactic Empire's General Weir' or 'Imperial General Weir', for grammar purposes. 21:51, October 2, 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. OtterSurf (talk) 15:38, October 3, 2019 (UTC)

QGJ

 * The date should be mentioned in the intro as well.
 * Done. OtterSurf (talk) 12:28, October 7, 2019 (UTC)
 * who had attacked nearby Corellia Do we have an article for that attack?
 * Yep. Linked. OtterSurf (talk) 12:28, October 7, 2019 (UTC)
 * Leyli informed Skywalker and Rogue Squadron leader Wedge Antilles of the location of Weir's base, where he was holding Numb. So, she knew that a Rebel pilot was being held prisoner on her planet? I think it's important to establish this fact earlier in the bio.
 * Done. OtterSurf (talk) 12:38, October 7, 2019 (UTC)
 * The intro states that she "assisted" Rogue Squadron in locating a "hidden" Imperial base, which makes it sound as if she actively participated in the search for the base alongside the Rogues. Contrast this with the bio, in which her only contribution is telling them outright about the base. Also, the bio doesn't establish that the base was "hidden," so it leaves the impression that its existence was common knowledge.
 * Done. OtterSurf (talk) 12:30, October 7, 2019 (UTC)
 * Main image currently violates Site policy regarding speech bubbles. QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 12:12, October 7, 2019 (UTC)
 * Fixed. OtterSurf (talk) 16:07, October 8, 2019 (UTC)

Zed

 * Aside from the panel borders/quality, I feel like the former infobox image was better than the new one. It shows Leyli from the front and isn't obstructed by a speech bubble. Zed42 (talk) 22:03, October 11, 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I prefer the replacement. OtterSurf (talk) 08:08, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * To respond to this, since this was the same objection I was going to leave myself, I've talked with another AC member, and we agree that the original infobox image is best, for three reasons: 1) It shows her face head-on; 2) There are no distracting speech bubbles in the middle of her head; and 3) It actually shows her entire head and face, not cut off by the comic panel. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:46, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
 * I strongly disagree with this decision and I think my preferred infobox image is much better. Nevertheless, seeing as moaning about it is going to get me nowhere on the issue, I have complied. OtterSurf (talk) 20:07, October 18, 2019 (UTC)