Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations

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 * 1) &hellip;be well-written and detailed.
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 * 4) &hellip;follow the Manual of Style, Layout Guide, and all other policies on Wookieepedia.
 * 5) &hellip;not be the object of any ongoing edit wars.
 * 6) &hellip;not be tagged with any sort of improvement tags (i.e. more sources, expand, etc).
 * 7) &hellip;have a proper lead that gives a good summary of the topic and can be used for the front page featured box.
 * 8) &hellip;have no more than 3 redlinks.
 * 9) &hellip;have significant information from all sources and appearances, especially a biography for character articles.
 * 10) &hellip;not have been previously featured on the Main Page. Otherwise, it can only be restored to featured status.
 * 11) &hellip;be completely referenced for all available material and sources. See Sourcing for more information.
 * 12) &hellip;have all quotes and images sourced.
 * 13) &hellip;provide at least one quote on the article. A leading quote at the beginning of the article will be required only if there is quotable dialogue by or about the subject. Although quotes may be placed in the body of the article, a maximum of one quote is allowed at the beginning of each section.
 * 14) &hellip;include a "personality and traits" section on all character articles.
 * 15) &hellip;include a "powers and abilities" section on all relevant character articles, especially for Force-sensitive characters where said powers and/or abilities are stipulated.
 * 16) &hellip;include a reasonable number of images of good quality if said images are available.
 * 17) &hellip;pass review by the Inquisitorius review panel.
 * 18) &hellip;counting the introduction and "Behind the scenes" material, be at least 1000 words long (not including captions, quotes, or headers, etc).

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 * 1) First, nominate an article you find is worthy of featured status, putting it at the bottom of the list below; see criteria above. Note that a previously featured article cannot be featured on the Main Page again; however, it can be restored to featured status.
 * 2) Others will object to the nomination if they disagree that the article is good enough; they will then supply reasons for doing so, and ways to improve the article (errors, style, organization, images, notability, sources).
 * 3) Supporters adjust the article until the objectors (with reasonable objections) are satisfied.
 * 4) The article is placed on the featured article list and added to the front page queue.
 * 5) Also, if, at least a week after the article's nomination, that article has 5 Inquisitor supports and no objections (or the objections have been stricken or overridden), it will be added to the queue, and will be officially known as a "featured article".

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 * 1) Before doing anything, be sure to read the article completely, keeping a sharp eye out for mistakes.
 * 2) Afterwards, compare the article to the criteria listed above, and then either support or object the article's nomination.
 * 3) If you object, please supply concrete reasons for doing so, and how it can be improved. Please cite which rule your objection falls under! Failure to do so will result in your objection being considered invalid.
 * 4) As stated above, any objections will be looked upon by the nominator, supporters, and anyone willing to improve the article, and action will be taken to please the objectors.
 * 5) Once all objectors' complaints have been solved (or the article has five supporting Inquisitor votes and no objections after at least a week), the article will be added to the queue and be officially known as a "featured article".

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(1 Inq/2 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) I put a lot of work into this one; I think it's accurate, interesting, concise and complete. I would definitely welcome any criticisms or suggestions, but I definitely think it is worthy of being a featured article. &mdash; Colinmcev Talk 03:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Thefourdotelipsis 04:27, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  19:08, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Just glanced at it, but the Personality and Traits should be at the end of the article, you know. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 04:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *Fixed that.--Colinmcev 18:30, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Would be nice to have a BTS (Behind the scenes) section, covering stuff like who created the character, where he first appeared, any continuity errors, etc. Also, this would be a good place to include one of those wacky Galaxies pics. -- Ozzel 02:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) *Added both. Thanks for the great suggestions!--Colinmcev 01:35, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) From the Thoroughly Pounded Desk of Four Dot:
 * 6) * There's a little bit of POV in the intro, and "He betrayed Rogue Squadron during a covert mission and attempted to kill Corran Horn, but he was shot and killed by his lover, Inyri Forge." could probably be rephrased.
 * 7) **I reworked it a litlte bit and removed what I thought was the POV. If there is any left, or if you think it needs further rephrasing, please let me know or feel free to tweak it.--Colinmcev 01:27, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) * "Zekka Thyne served on Black Sun" - Sounds dangerous. I think he just "served Black Sun", but I think "joined the Black Sun syndicate" would be better.
 * 9) **I agree! Fixed that.--Colinmcev 01:28, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) * Just a general observation: There are a lot of unsightly "thin" paragraphs. Of course, you can "cheat" on this one and just merge a couple of the offending paragraphs together.
 * 11) **This is a bad habit of mine; in real life, I'm a reporter, and in newspaper articles small paragraphs are required. lol. I tightened them up a bit, but if you still think there are paragraphs that are too thin, please point out which ones and I'll make further fixes.--Colinmcev 01:38, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * Another observation: The end of every paragraph containing In-universe information should have a relevant citation.
 * 13) **Fixed that.--Colinmcev 01:41, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) * "eliminate single targets and slaughtering informers and even their families." - This could be worded better.
 * 15) **Tightened the sentence altogether, I think it's better now.--Colinmcev 01:42, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) * "In 7 BBY, Fliry Vorru, then a Moff in charge of the Corellian Sector, was sent to Kessel after being framed by Prince Xizor. This allowed Xizor to establish Zekka Thyne as his chief associate in Corellia." - How so? This might need more clarification.
 * 17) **Done.--Colinmcev 01:43, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) * "However, he was well protected by his heavily protected fortress" - One of the "protected"'s needs to be replaced, methinks.
 * 19) **Yeesh, what a lame mistake. Fixed that.--Colinmcev 01:43, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) * Even though you link to cutter, you might want to briefly explain what it is.
 * 21) **Done.--Colinmcev 01:44, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 22) * Take the image of the Bothan Thyne out of the bio and put it in the BtS. Also, assume that they're separate characters. I cite Chertyl Ruluwoor as a precedent.
 * 23) **I don't necessarily agree that the SWG Thyne should be a seperate character since both are affiliated with Black Sun and are clearly meant to be one and the same; maybe it's just me, but I think just noting the Bothan discrepency is enough. But I did move the pic.--Colinmcev 01:49, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 24) * "Although Loor attended the meeting during which the plan was formed, he started a confrontation with Corran Horn that resulted in Fliry Vorru punching him in his abdomen injury and smashing his head against the table." - Eh? You might have gotten you characters a bit mixed up there.
 * 25) **Yeah, that "Loor" should be a "Thyne." Fixed it.--Colinmcev 01:50, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 26) * The preceding sentence also starts with "Although", which doesn't flow well.
 * 27) **Fixed that and redid much of the sentence altogether.--Colinmcev 01:52, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 28) * "With this, Zekka Thyne died." - Too short a sentence, but I could be wrong. You'll want to integrate it into the preceding paragraph, though.
 * 29) **I think the short sentence works for effect, but I agree that it is WAY too short as an individual paragraph. Merged it with the previous one.--Colinmcev 01:53, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 30) * Mention who the other spy was in the Post-death section.
 * 31) **Done.--Colinmcev 01:55, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 32) *Best of luck with all that. It might take a bit of work, but I think there's some good foundation here. Thefourdotelipsis 09:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 33) **If there's anything else, please don't hesitate to let me know. Thanks for the thorough look!--Colinmcev 01:56, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, first things first: Don't strike other people's objections. It's frowned upon. However, you got most of them. I still have an issue with the paragraph spacing. Basically, in the first half of the article, merge every pair of paragraphs. It just looks a lot neater and, well, meatier. Thefourdotelipsis 23:27, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) **I'm really sorry about that, I've never nominated an article before so I didn't really know the proper procedure. I tightened the paragraphs a bit, let me know if you think that looks better.--Colinmcev 23:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) ***That's OK, you know now. Good work with this though. It looks fine to me now. Thefourdotelipsis 04:27, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Got some things here:
 * 4) * In the Appointment to Corellia section, it first says the Moff was framed by Xizor. Then it later syas it is widely believed he was framed. That sounds reptitive and contradicts the above info somewhat.
 * 5) **Actually, Moff Fliry Vorru was definitely framed, and accordingly that is definitively stated. But the person who is noted as "widely believed" to have been framed is the previous owner of the fortress. That isn't Vorru, it's someone else who is never identified in any of the source material. So the two references are not related, and I don't think there's an error there.--Colinmcev 01:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) * Also, the protected fortress thing that Fourdot mentioned earlier needs fixing.
 * 7) **Right you are. Fixed that.--Colinmcev 01:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) * In the Spy for Lorr section, the last paragraph needs to be ref'ed.
 * 9) **Done.--Colinmcev 01:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) * In the Imperial scheme section, the second-to-last paragraph needs to be rephrased. It's too repetitive.
 * 11) **Good call. I think I fixed it, but if you still think it needs work, let me know or go ahead and rephrase it.--Colinmcev 02:00, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * The last paragraph int hat section needs to be sourced.
 * 13) **Done.--Colinmcev 02:00, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) * In the Imprisonment paragraph, the "Maw" needs to be unlinked.
 * 15) **OK..--Colinmcev 02:02, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) * The first paragraph needs to be sourced too.
 * 17) **Fixed it.--Colinmcev 02:02, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) * In Presence on Coruscant, the first paragraph needs to be rephraes as it sounds repetitive.
 * 19) **I agree, big time. Fixed it.--Colinmcev 02:04, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) * Also, change execute to shoot.
 * 21) **To be honest, I don't think this change is entirely necessary, but I made it anyway.--Colinmcev 02:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 22) * In the Death section, "this new" should be "this news".
 * 23) **Another dumb mistake. Fixed.--Colinmcev 02:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 24) * In P&T, the word "Wookiee" needs to be unlinked. Also, rearrange it so it flows, going from his perosnality to his appearance than his tastes, not jumping around.
 * 25) **I think it already is that way; the first paragraph is personality, then we have three paragraphs of appearance, and the last one about his art taste. If this isn't acceptable, can you give me some further clarification on how it could be rearranged?--Colinmcev 02:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 26) * And everything from Release from Kessel to Post-death needs sourcing.
 * 27) **Done.--Colinmcev 02:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 28) *Good luck.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 19:24, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 29) **Thanks again, I really appreciate the thoroughness!--Colinmcev 02:09, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 30) And now for something completely similar:
 * 31) * Source the rest of the infobox.
 * 32) **Is it OK the way it is now?--Colinmcev 00:35, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 33) * There's a few instances of redundant ref tags. If the whole paragraph is from the same source it only needs one ref at the end.
 * 34) **Removed those. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 01:34, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 35) *Include information about his quest in Galaxies.
 * 36) **This is the only one I really can't fix myself. I don't have Galaxies, and I've scoured the Net for info on his quests, but I can't find any. Maybe someone else can help me out here? I'd hate to see the whole article snagged just because of this...--Colinmcev 00:36, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 37) * Intro: "Although rumored to be the heir-apparent to Xizor's criminal organization..." Rumoured by who? This needs to be mentioned later in the article and sourced.
 * 38) **Done--Colinmcev 00:36, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 39) * Imperial scheme and capture: Source the first paragraph.
 * 40) **Done--Colinmcev 00:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 41) * Imprisonment on Kessel: "a spicer term used to describe close enough to a person that they could be trusted with cutting their spice" Can this be reworded?
 * 42) **Done--Colinmcev 00:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 43) * Presence on Coruscant: Needs something to lead into second paragraph, even if it's just "Some time later..." As it is, it feels disjointed.
 * 44) **Done--Colinmcev 00:38, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 45) * Presence on Coruscant: Second paragraph has a sentence starting with "but". Kill it if possible.
 * 46) **Would changing it to However be cheating? If so, I'll reword.--Colinmcev 00:36, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 47) * Presence on Coruscant: A brief mention of how the Rogues got involved in the Imperial raid would not go amiss.
 * 48) **Done--Colinmcev 00:36, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 49) * Personality and traits: "one massive black eye that was slowly fading" is a quote from the narrative, not something in-universe. Lose the quotes and make it something like "Corran Horn thought that it gave the impression..." Green Tentacle (Talk) 19:58, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 50) **Done--Colinmcev 00:38, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 51) From the lair of Hobbes15
 * 52) * Per GT on the infobox.
 * 53) **Is it good the way it is now?--Colinmcev 00:38, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 54) ***All the data must be ref'd, not just selective bits.
 * 55) ****Ok, didn't realize how much has to be referenced. I did that.--Colinmcev
 * 56) *Mention somewhere in the bio that he was born on Corellia, if this can be referenced.
 * 57) **It never says in either source material whether he was born there or not, so I can't really put it in.--Colinmcev 00:39, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 58) ***Than where do we get that in the infobox? If it isn't referenced, it shouldn't be in his article at all. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 59) ****Well, the Corellia reference in the infobox was here before I ever touched the article. Even though it's never stated that he was born in Corellia, I always just thought it would be OK there since his earliest appearance (Side Trip) have him in Corellia, and that was where he was thriving at the high point of his career and lived most of his life. But what do you think, should we take that out altogether or leave it? --Colinmcev
 * 60) *****I'm all right with it staying, but make a note in the article or a footnote that it isn't necessarily Thyne's place of birth, but it is where he spends most of his life. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 06:11, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 61) ******I put this in the end of the first section. Thanks for the guidance.--Colinmcev 00:37, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 62) * Needs a mention of how Black Sun met its downfall.
 * 63) **Did that, and cited Shadow of the Empire for it.--Colinmcev 00:44, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 64) * The last sentence of Spy for Kirtan Loor seems a little out of place. Perhaps place it after the segment about the destruction (sort of) of Black Sun.
 * 65) **I just dropped it altogether; I guess it wasn't really necessary.--Colinmcev 00:44, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 66) * Ref the end of the first paragraph of 1.4.
 * 67) **Done--Colinmcev 00:44, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 68) * The last bit of 1.4 that says Thrawn captured Thyne is a bit unclear. I thought it said the Horns captured him earlier; in addition, a little mention on what happened after Hal shot him would be nice.
 * 69) **Done--Colinmcev 00:44, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 70) ***I don't see any difference. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 71) ****Oops, my mistake. I made some changes, how does it look now? --Colinmcev
 * 72) * "to describe close enough to a person that they could be trusted with cutting their spice"? This is unclear.
 * 73) **Reworded it.--Colinmcev 00:45, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 74) * "Myda wanted to take the offer, Kassar insisted that Inyri must make her own decision, and even expressed hope that Inyri might be able to change Thyne for the better." Who the heck are are Myda and Kassar?
 * 75) **I double checked, but there was already a first reference to them in there.--Colinmcev 00:45, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 76) ***My mistake. Struck. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 77) * The first sentence of Presence on Coruscant makes no sense. When is Thyne talking to Horn? It is unclear what's happening there. All it says is that Thyne was about to be released, then next thing you know, he's psychologically attacking Horn.
 * 78) **Fixed this up.--Colinmcev 00:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 79) * "to look back and check on Inyri"? This could be reworded and made much clearer and more interesting than it is at the moment.
 * 80) **Reworded.--Colinmcev 00:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 81) * Mention why Loor feared Horn would try to kill him in 1.8.
 * 82) **Done.--Colinmcev 00:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 83) * Rogue Squadron Betrayal and Death is an unclear headline. Who's doing the betraying&mdash; Thyne or the Rogues?
 * 84) **Just changed it to Death. Seems easier and it still works.--Colinmcev 00:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 85) * First paragraph of this section is unclear and should be slightly reworded.
 * 86) **Done.--Colinmcev 00:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 87) * "Thyne instead told him there was at least one other spy in Rogue Squadron, although Thyne did not know that Rogue Squadron pilot Erisi Dlarit was the spy." This doesn't make sense, and Rogue Squadron is over-used in the sentence.
 * 88) **Clarified a bit.--Colinmcev 00:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 89) * In Post-death, the article makes it seem like Horn died in his confrontation with Celchu, not in the battle following it.
 * 90) **Fixed.--Colinmcev 00:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 91) * In the P&T, could the three paragraphs regarding his appearance be merged into one?
 * 92) **Done.--Colinmcev 00:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 93) * Is it specifically said in Side Trip that Thyne's taste in art was considered questionable by most? If not, it needs a seperate reference.
 * 94) **Clarified this.--Colinmcev 00:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 95) *Do you have a reference for the fact that Thyne was only referenced in the parts of the story written by Stackpole (BTS)?
 * 96) **No, it's a fact but I don't have a source, he's just the only author to have written him. How should I handle this? Drop the fact altogether? I think it's an interesting note so it would be a shame, but if that's how it would have to go I'd be fine with it.--Colinmcev 00:47, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 97) ***I checked this in Side Trip&mdash; it's divided into four parts, which I didn't know, and Thyne is only in Stackpole's parts. It's fine. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * If, as GT says, he has a specific role in Galaxies beyond a mere appearance, it does need to be mentioned.
 * 1) **See above. I need help with this one because I don't have SWG.--Colinmcev 00:47, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) ***I'm afraid I don't either, so I can't do much about it. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) *And that's all. Good luck with those. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 01:34, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) From the ghostly desk of Atarumaster88
 * 5) *"Thyne's personal office also contained a secret escape panel that led to a cave, where he kept secret or sensitive cargo Thyne obtained the deed to the fortress after the previous owner was sent to Kessel on spice smuggling charges". Is there supposed to be a period here or something else?
 * 6) **Fixed. —Xwing328 (Talk) 21:43, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) *"However, Thrawn encountered disguised CorSec investigators Corran and Hal Horn he modified his plan to allow the Horns to capture Thyne." Again, I think a word or a punctuation mark is missing.
 * 8) **Fixed. —Xwing328 (Talk) 21:43, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) *Source or remove congenitally hairless speculation.
 * 10) *Source BTS.
 * 11) **Aside from assuming he has no Bothan genes, it looks fine. -- Ozzel 05:44, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) *Could use some supporting pictures (i.e. of Kirtan Loor, or of Horn) for variety's sake. Not a hard and fast objection.
 * 13) *Physical appearance in the P&T section should be distributed elsewhere. Like the intro. I've (and I've discussed this with other Inqs) always understood the "traits" in Personality and Traits to be character traits, given that we have eschewed such sections in previous noms.
 * 14) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating Day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:14, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 15) Blah blah blah
 * 16) *How did Thyne become a Vigo? Was he just appointed one as soon as he joined or are there no details? Either way, it might be worth mentioning. Also, is Thyne a Vigo? Or was he just a high-ranking Black Sun member? I ask only because we seem to know who all nine of Xizor's vigos as of SotE are, and he's not included. If he was just replaced as of that time, that too needs mentioning.
 * 17) *Although you already reworded it, I think, "Horn was saved when Thyne was shot to death by his lover, Inyri Forge" still needs to be reworded. As it reads now, it's hard to tell if Forge is Zekka's lover or Corran's.
 * 18) *Disguised as the bounty hunter Jodo Kast, Thrawn and the crew traveled to Corellia, under the guise that they were delivering unknown cargo to Borbor Crisk. In fact, Thrawn intentionally allowed his de facto partners to be captured, posing as a hired gun for Thyne. Who was Thrawn's crew? Stormtroopers? Just random mercs? This whole part needs further clarification. As it's written now I'm confused as to why letting his crew get captured would help his cause.
 * 19) *However, Thrawn encountered disguised CorSec investigators Corran and Hal Horn he modified his plan to allow the Horns to capture Thyne. Should this be, "However, when Thrawn..."? Either that or broken up into two sentences.
 * 20) *Most of Thyne's soldiers were not present at the fortress at the time of the assault because Thrawn had arranged for them to pick up the cargo. Hmm? What cargo? The blasters? I thought those were for Crisk, Thyne's nemesis?
 * 21) *Doole informed them that Inyri, sister of slain Rogue Squadron pilot Lujayne, was to be released along with Thyne. Forge was a prisoner as well? I thought she was just the daughter of two prison rehabilitators.
 * 22) *Several members of Rogue Squadron were present at the time, having been captured by Asyr Sei'lar. This might be just ignorance, but wasn't Asyr part of Rogue Squadron? Why was she capturing them? Just a minor mention could be helpful.
 * 23) *If "Patches" was only used as a derogatory nickname and not one that he himself used, it might be better to remove it from the infobox.
 * 24) *Not really an objection, but could a quote page be formed? It's always such a good supplement.
 * 25) *I kind of disagree with moving his odd physical traits elsewhere, but if it has to be done, it might be worth adding an "Early Life" section where you can mention his parents (their differing races that is) alongside his odd physical description.
 * 26) *Any chance that his Galaxies stuff is on their site? Everything else is fine. Nice job. Cull Tremayne 00:43, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 27) My only objections are the ones already listed here, especially if there is info in Galaxies that nobody here knows. —Xwing328 (Talk) 21:59, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * I finally got to read Side Trip and I expanded the section with a whole lot of info from that. As that was the final major source for Zekka, I think this article is pretty much as complete as possible.--Colinmcev 01:35, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Colinmcev, I uncrossed Chack's objections, because, after checking the history, I realized that he didn't cross them out, you did. For future reference, the way these things work is that you make a comment when you've addressed an objection, the objecting user looks at the article, checks to see if the objection is fixed to his/her satisfaction, and then crosses it off. If they still see a problem, they'll point it out. Thank you, and good work with the objections ;). Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 02:24, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm sorry about that; as I said about, I've never nominated an article before so I didn't really know the proper procedure. I was basically crossing them off as I fixed them, but I'll make sure that doesn't happen again.--Colinmcev 23:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It's fine. I'll try to look at the article later today.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 10:30, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * As I noted about, I need some help with Thyne's SWG quest. I don't have Galaxies and I can't find it anywhere online. Can someone else add this info for me? I think it would be a true shame if this couldn't become featured just because this is missing.--Colinmcev 00:47, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Would be nice if you could work in this image somewhere. Aside from the Galaxies thing, it looks good. -- Ozzel 07:54, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I added that picture; it was good to get another pic in there! As for the Galaxies thing, I'm still stuck on that for right now. Can anyone help? I hate to see it stuck because of this...--Colinmcev 00:48, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey Colinmcev, try asking some people to review this for you. It's got potential, but right now doesn't have many votes.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 15:33, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

(4 Inqs/3 Users/7 Total)
Support Oppose
 * 1) --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 14:13, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Green Tentacle (Talk) 01:13, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 01:27, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Thefourdotelipsis 23:41, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) JMAS 00:54, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 6)  &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 02:24, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Very well-written, Acky. Hobbes ( Tiger's Lair ) 05:25, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Per rule 9 &mdash; there are some appearances that are not listed in the references. Either they need to be included with the information they contain, or the proper citation tags (for example,  ) need to be affixed to the appearances which require them.  Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:41, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, I've added where applicable. Other than the Roque Squadron handbook, which I am in the process of acquiring, and possibly Who's Who in Jabba's Palace, the remaining non  sources/appearances contain no refable information whatsoever. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 16:04, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) *(Clarified objection via IRC). Greyman ( Paratus ) 16:09, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) **Every non appearance currently referenced.--  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 20:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) ***It looks like you got them all except And Then There Were Some: The Gamorrean Guard's Tale &mdash; that is, unless that story is supposed to have a tag attached.  Greyman ( Paratus ) 21:32, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) ****Whoops, missed that one. Reference's been added though. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 22:44, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Needs a BTS, per Rule 4 --Eyrezer 23:14, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) *Addressed. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 20:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) From the motel of Green Tentacle:
 * 8) * "Palace" or "palace". I'd say "palace" unless you're using the full name but I could be wrong. Either way, it needs to be consistent.
 * 9) * Same goes for "Citadel" and "citadel".
 * 10) * It also might be better to call it the monastery or something until you get to the point where it actually becomes Jabba's Palace. No biggie though.
 * 11) * Practices and beliefs: "The Order originally consisted only of Humans, though in time it encompassed a great many species." Consider moving to the appropriate place in history instead.
 * 12) * B'omarr Registry should be linked shouldn't it?
 * 13) * Do these images have to be so huge?
 * 14) * Behind the scenes could do with a bit more. Specifically, since they were just brains in jars in ROTJ, which source first identified the Order? Green Tentacle (Talk) 00:01, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 15) **I think they've all been addressed. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 23:19, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) It says they were founded in 700 BBY, but would ponder for millennia...is this right? Thefourdotelipsis 07:52, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 17) *Addressed. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 23:19, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) The article claims that Eron Stonefield entered K'vin's Outpost. This is false. The player character in Missions enters the outpost. Thefourdotelipsis 08:16, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 19) *Addressed. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 23:19, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) From the squalid cublicle of Graestan:
 * 21) * "Real world" can be changed to something like "physical world" to avoid making a POV statement; the same goes for "reality," as we cannot dismiss the realm of thought as unreal in a universe possessed of its own band of magic.
 * 22) **Addressed.
 * 23) * "The tests varied, with some related to logic, others to knowledge of sacred texts and others to physical tasks, to test if a monk could use his mind to block out pain."&mdash;Please reword and clarify.
 * 24) **Addressed.
 * 25) * Your lack of serial commas disturbs me.
 * 26) **Care to clarify?
 * 27) ***Clarified on IRC; I think I got them all. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 23:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 28) * "The brain support unit allowed the monks to survive without being connected to the special equipment in the deepest parts of the monastery, though they were initially difficult to use, and most monks preferred not to."&mdash;Specify what they preferred not to do. Otherwise, it looks like they preferred not to survive, or to be connected to the special equipment.
 * 29) **Addressed.
 * 30) * "Four spindy black legs"&hellip;"the traditional four"&mdash;Redundant.
 * 31) **Addressed.
 * 32) * "Rarely lasted long, and the monks soon left"&mdash;Again, redundant.
 * 33) **Addressed.
 * 34) * The word "order" is capitalized a lot, and I'm not sure it should be in every instance. For example, "K'vin lived on Tatooine at the B'omarr outpost, and like the B'omarr, his Order had their brains removed so they could ponder the infinite for ever more" is somewhat awkward. Please reexamine capitalization usage and adjust where necessary. Consistency is key.
 * 35) **Decapatalised any "order"s that were along, left any "B'omarr Order"s capatilised.
 * 36) * "The body was found by one of Jabba's Gamorrean guards, though J'Quille managed to cover up the monk's death."&mdash;Contradictory. I know what you meant; please specify.
 * 37) **Addressed.
 * 38) * "The B'omarr Monastery"&mdash;Palace, palace, palace. Palace. Please change a few of these to reflect the building's other functions and monikers.
 * 39) **Addressed.
 * 40) * Can we get a better picture of Bubo? His eye is cropped off at the top.
 * 41) **Replaced it with another.
 * 42) * One more quote?
 * 43) **Added.
 * 44) * &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 06:06, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 45) **Sorry it's been so long; I've been having a hectic RL. I'll fix these this evening. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 08:48, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 46) ***Addressed them all, bar one, which I would like to be clarified, if at all possible. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 22:54, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * Not a character, ship or location, and not TOTJ. :) --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 14:13, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * According to Who's Who in Jabba's Palace, the B'omarr Monks are listed under "The Bad" section...maybe that, or Insider's writing of the B'omarr Monks, deserves some mention in the BtS. Just a suggestion since I haven't been able to read Who's Who in Jabba's Palace myself. Greyman ( Paratus ) 21:37, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I've been having trouble getting my hands on that myself. I'll see what I can do. Any assistance from anyone is welcome. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 22:44, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I still haven't gotten access to Insider 60, but I've added a brief mention of it in the BtS. Is that what you had in mind? If not, I'll continue trying to find Insider 60. Thanks, --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 23:27, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I could be wrong, but don't Hyperspace links count as Sources? —Xwing328 (Talk) 22:02, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Usually yes, but in this case they just link to images, so external links would, IMHO, make more sense. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 08:52, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

(4 Inqs/3 Users/7 Total)
Support Oppose
 * 1) I was bored. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 20:57, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Thefourdotelipsis 23:06, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  19:03, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 03:49, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Green Tentacle (Talk) 00:10, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) "She often stood around in a multi-purpose hotel hall, along with several other Corellian residents."&mdash;A NPC? Really? No...  &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 03:30, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Although I shed Mount Sorrow-like tears over her P&T :(. Hobbes ( Tiger's Lair ) 04:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Please rephrase the final sentence so it doesn't read "her final fate is unknown" (or something similar understood to mean that). Otherwise, I'd suggest removing it.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 21:49, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Removed it. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 22:39, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Cut the stuff about her hairstyle and how Leia used it. Thefourdotelipsis 07:36, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Addressed.

Comments
 * As it's pretty obvious this character was supposed to be Chertyl Ruluwoor (Selonian), and in the Bts section you mention this, would it be possible to expand (even only slightly), the Chertyl Ruluwoor (Selonian) article? Infobox/sectioning etc. Just a thought, throw it right back at me otherwise :P Harrar 23:18, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, it's not really to do with this article, but I'll be re-reading Wedge's Gamble soon, so I'll try to expand it then. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 23:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Not an objection per se, but the writing doesn't quite cut it for me. —Xwing328 (Talk) 22:57, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll see if I can improve it. Are there any specific sections/sentences that you're not fond of? --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 08:52, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

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Support
 * 1) It's not the biggest article to be nominated, but it's pretty good. I'm just sad they're no other images, but I couldn't find anyothers. Kilson LOVES PIE 09:95, November 22 2007

Oppose Comments
 * 1) It doesn't meet FAN rule #18 &mdash; hence why I cleaned it up and nominated it for GA instead of FA in the first place. I knew that I would be hard pressed to meet rule #18 without adding fluff. Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:42, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) I don't think it meets rule #7. Starwarsrulez 18:54, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Eh, we have several FAs that have similar leads. Anyways, like I stated above, to add anything further to the article would be fluff and repetitive. Greyman ( Paratus ) 19:06, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Fine then, but it needs more images. Starwarsrulez 02:31, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *Not a rule based objection, per the following: Unless someone is able to get screenshots from their PSP (which might be very difficult), or LFL releases more pictures of this battle, that single picture in there (compliments of JMAS) is all there is for now. So, more images would indeed be welcomed, but are not "needed" since none are currently available. Greyman ( Paratus ) 02:40, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * This is about 80 words shy of 1000, but the "Aftermath" section is already full of fluff. I would strongly recommend that the nominator take this to GA instead. Thefourdotelipsis 22:16, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It actually already is a GA. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 08:52, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

(2 Inq/3 Users/5 Total)
Support
 * 1) --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 18:38, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Adamwankenobi 06:17, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Yay for awesome retconery! -- Ozzel 23:56, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) He sure is dopey-looking. &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 16:17, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Good stuff. Thefourdotelipsis 21:58, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Uh... Leia's already married by the time of the Thrawn trilogy. You keep calling her "Organa." &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 04:04, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *I think I had a reason for that, but I can't think of what exactly it was at the minute. Perhaps to differentiate between her and Han. Anyway, addressed. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 23:55, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Actually, that should read "Organa Solo", as she has two surnames. Also, you should use Ralrracheen's full name whenever referring to him. Thefourdotelipsis 22:33, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) *Both addressed. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 16:18, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Image:RalrraSalporin-HttE comic.jpg needs to be re-scanned&mdash;it's distorted. --Imperialles 10:14, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments

(3 Inq/3 Users/6 Total)
Support
 * 1) --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 23:00, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Palpatine, you filthy hypocrite. A lot of your 12 seem kind of sucky compared to the 13th though.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 20:57, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) I like it!Harrar 21:37, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Green Tentacle (Talk) 20:57, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 5)  Yay for Grand Admirals! Yay for Dan Wallace! Yay for cut content! --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 18:10, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Thefourdotelipsis 22:01, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * Unsourced paragraph in the "Post-Endor" section. Thefourdotelipsis 23:18, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Now sourced. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 16:19, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * Expanded on someone else's work (jSarek's, I think). --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 23:00, 25 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't know if the point is really opposable, but I'd like to see this article integrate the cut content from the unpublished Gamer draft of the Grand Admirals article which has somehow escaped into the wild, wink wink. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 04:33, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I actually have gotten a hold of that myself, it's just the sourcing that's the problem. And do you mean in the BtS or the main article? --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 08:46, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Alright, I've added it into the main body with and , and with what I hope is an applicable ref. Is that what you had in mind? --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 10:05, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * After a discussion with some admins on the IRC, I've moved it to its own section in the BtS. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 10:33, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * From the Gonk of Gonk: "Grant saw himself as superior to those who held a lower status than him" ...So, he WAS superior to them? This phrase needs clarification.  Gonk  ( Gonk! ) 18:43, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Clarified some. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 19:52, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * "Abel Peña stated that Wallace had plans for Grant's future, though they have yet to be revealed." Check Dan Wallace's post here (timestamp of 7/17/06 2:36pm, in case the pages come up differently for you than for me) to see what he had up his sleeves. jSarek 01:06, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, excellent. Thanks for that, jSarek. Info added to the article, of course. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 01:21, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

(7 Inqs/5 Users/10 Total)
Support Oppose
 * 1) --Eyrezer 08:21, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Nice job, Ey.  Greyman ( Paratus ) 01:42, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 04:04, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) One redlink? Cull Tremayne 02:55, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) How many dumb snake puns can be made? &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 05:54, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Lord Hydronium 12:47, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Green Tentacle (Talk) 01:07, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 8)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  03:47, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) Redundancy, woo! Thefourdotelipsis 23:28, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) Hobbes ( Tiger's Lair ) 04:51, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) Kilson 19:00, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) -- Volemlock 20:50, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Fifteen Galactic Standard degrees? Is this a typo? &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 03:20, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *I wish it was, but no, that is what the source said... --Eyrezer 22:04, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) In the intro it syas the Slith were wiped out by the Vong, while later in the article it says they were likely (bold added by me) driven extinct. Minor, but could you change it so the the two agree?  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  22:24, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) *Fixed. --Eyrezer 02:41, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) No suitable lead quote? Green Tentacle (Talk) 23:34, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) *Added a lead quote. --Eyrezer 02:41, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Image:Giant cacti.png needs to be re-scanned&mdash;it's distorted. --Imperialles 10:16, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) *It has been rescanned here. The main problem is actually that the original image is of low quality. It's hard to polish a turd if you get my meaning. --Eyrezer 03:26, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * I like the new Inq icons! --Eyrezer 04:30, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

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Support
 * 1) (Re)Nominated, after pulling it down a week ago and doing some work on it.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 20:57, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) From the Family-sized pasta bowl of Fiolli
 * 2) * Intro does not state that he was in fact a dark Jedi; It should also be mentioned somewhere in Creation.
 * 3) * Third paragraph of Creation: It says "this clone" became ruler of Wayland&hellip;" but does not explain. The intro implies that he was sent by Palpatine to be the Guard.
 * 4) ** Still uncertain as to whether Palpatine sent the clone to Wayland or not. Was there an edict or mission?
 * 5) ***Seems it could possibly be expanded even more, but I'll leave it to the Inqery to judge that. I'm not going to hold it up.  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 01:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) * Third paragraph of Creation: can the details of the fight be expanded slightly? Not an objection, but a suggestion.
 * 7) * First paragraph of Service/Thrawn: "Upon revealing himself to the Jedi&hellip;" Would dark Jedi be better?
 * 8) * Same sentence: "told them" - A bit awkward since Thrawn was not mentioned as being accompanied.
 * 9) * Fourth paragraph of Service/Thrawn: "he would come to him." Not quite sure who goes to who in this statement.
 * 10) * Same paragraph: What/why was Skywalker skeptical? Was he skeptical about C'baoth?
 * 11) * Fifth paragraph of Showdown: "Luke's clone caused a strange buzzing in his head by simply being near him (a possible effect of clone madness)." Was the buzzing in Luke's head or Luuke's head (or both?) This clears up the next sentence of who was distracted.
 * 12) * Clone Identity: I know you didn't add these paragraphs, but I think the information is valuable. Perhaps better suited in P&T, though. The statements, however, do need to be sourced if they are in fact correct.
 * 13) * P&A: "He had the power to take control of other's minds, and literally reshape them in his own image, a feat unmatched by anyone before." Can this be sourced? It doesn't quite seem to be NPoV.
 * 14) **Better.
 * 15) *I am not an expert on all policy here, but here are some thoughts. Nice work, though. The article is better!  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 05:45, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) **Again, nice work, "Chack." Didn't know that much about the subject until now.  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 23:29, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 17) *From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * 18) * The minor point where Artoo blasts C'baoth and nearly kills him with a laser cannon burst might be important. (on Jomark)
 * 19) * The article dances around mentioning how C'baoth got back to Wayland but never discusses it explicitly. Please do so.
 * 20) *Chimaera is neither explained or linked. No context is given.
 * 21) **Still not linked on first mention and the last time it is used is in need of italics. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 00:12, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 22) * C'baoth's ability to send mental messages across distances needs a mention.
 * 23) *Why did that irrelevant section about Thrawn's death and Rukh and all that come back? I objected to that in this article's first round of nomination. It doesn't serve a purpose to the article and tells us nothing further about C'baoth. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 00:12, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 24) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating Day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 19:36, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 25) From the whosigowhatsit of Four Dot
 * 26) *The image use could be much, much better.
 * 27) * You need to provide better context at the start of the "Service to Thrawn" section. Talk about why Thrawn wanted him, ect, ect.
 * 28) * And on that note, the second paragraph in that section is barely relevant to Joruus.
 * 29) * Why is there a section on the Ukio attack long before it actually happens?
 * 30) * "He began training Skywalker, teaching him many things contrary to what Yoda had taught the young Jedi, such as that Jedi were superior to others." - Unwieldy. Might want to rewrite that one.
 * 31) * And in the rest of that paragraph, there's a lot of repetition of "He did this. He did that".
 * 32) * I'm not sure exactly how the second last paragraph of "Service to Thrawn" is related to Joruus.
 * 33) * Been a while since I read the books, but wasn't there a scene where Joruus took over the Chimaera, albeit briefly?
 * 34) * Fifth paragraph of Showdown on Wayland. Again, I'm not really sure how it relates to Joruus. Can, and must be more concise.
 * 35) * The last paragraph could use some cleaning up too. Also, some aftermath to his death would be good, instead of "He exploded, the end."
 * 36) * P&T could do with some mention of the original C'boath, and how his traits were passed on.
 * 37) * P&A could be expanded quite a bit. Based on the image accompanying it alone.
 * 38) *BTS could do with some beefing up as well.
 * 39) *This might sound harsh, but I think this will require a lot of work to get up to scratch. If it can be done, well and good, but it's not going to be easy. I'm not as familiar with the original material as I should be, but I doubt, for some reason that every single source and appearance has been mined for information thoroughly, and that's really what has to happen before I support. Thefourdotelipsis 23:48, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 40) *Just one more thing
 * 41) * General Covell needs a mention by name, a link. The guy C'baoth bonds to his own brain in TLC, as I recall. It's a pretty impressive techinique. Every last scrap of pertinent detail, after all :P Harrar 20:35, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments

(5 Inqs/5 Users/10 Total)
Support
 * 1) As a token of gratitude for the awesomeness he has bestowed upon us. -- Ozzel 07:12, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2)  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 19:16, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Thefourdotelipsis 00:32, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) --Eyrezer 05:37, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Adamwankenobi 18:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 6)  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:26, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Even if his gender is unsourced. :P Green Tentacle (Talk) 19:06, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) Impressive. Most impressive.  —Xwing328 (Talk) 00:05, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 08:52, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) Good. Fanaticism aside. :P  Graestan ( This party's over ) 00:57, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Source the infobox, and fix the issues with punctuation in regards to quotation marks. --Imperialles 10:28, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *Done all that needs doing. If the rest means waiting on a certain CT, so be it. -- Ozzel 09:17, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Adamwankenobi 19:25, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) *I'm guessing you voted in the wrong place... Otherwise, please make your objection more specific. ;-) -- Ozzel 21:47, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * 6) * More thorough external linking needed (Chicago, Illinois)
 * 7) **Check. -- Ozzel 07:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) * "The next year, he did Dig magazine's The Lost City of Tatooine and the Random House children's book Anakin to the Rescue.". A better verb than "did" would be helpful, especially since the redlink doesn't exactly allow readers to find out what he did.
 * 9) **Check. (Side note: someone with that magazine really needs to make an article and add the info to the site.) -- Ozzel 07:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) * Wherever you first use "RPG", there had better be a parenthetical statement to the effect of (Role Playing Game) in case there is one nerd who doesn't know what RPG means.
 * 11) **Linked. -- Ozzel 07:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * "...conceptual artist Ralph McQuarrie as one of his major influences, as a child and professionally." That last clause could use some explanation because I could read that in an alternate manner and be amused.
 * 13) **Understandable. Hopefully fixed now. -- Ozzel 07:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) * 4 redlinks.
 * 15) **I count 3, with one being a duplicate between the text and the list (the aforementioned "Lost City of Tatooine"). -- Ozzel 07:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) ***Bah! Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 14:26, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 17) * Nothing on personal life? Not at all? Heck, if Burl Ives can have some personal life, so can Chris Trevas, who is way more awesome.
 * 18) **Burl Ives was a high-profile celebrity. Chris Trevas, while I'd certainly be thrilled to meet him and would ask for his autograph if I ran into him on the street, isn't exactly E! Online fodder, if you know what I mean. Aside from perhaps a sentence worth of trivia from his MySpace, there's really not much I could say. -- Ozzel 07:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 19) ***You could at least mention the fact that he lives in Walled Lake, Michigan and owns his own illustration company. Given that he's *linked* to us on his MySpace profile, he might even be receptive to a request for interview. That's a judgment call, of course. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 14:26, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) ****He doesn't own a company; he's freelance. And while you might be right, generating content ain't part of the deal; covering what we got is. As for residence, that was an infobox field, but Imp apparently removed it on account of it being "stupid." -- Ozzel 02:57, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 21) *****But, uh, you didn't cover the fact that he's, you know, single for all the fangirls out there! :-P Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:26, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 22) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 06:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 23) **Remarkably un-frustrating, actually. ;-) -- Ozzel 07:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 24) "Companies" in the infobox should really be sourced. &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 03:50, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 25) *Not after we correct the policy. But I understand if you have to object until then. -- Ozzel 05:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 26) **Regardless, the next field is a link to the citation, so I'll allow it. But that in itself is still a stretch. Graestan ( This party's over ) 00:57, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * Is there any way to make the different tables of his work all have the same span widths? I think it would look tidier. --Eyrezer 02:14, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Imp fixey. -- Ozzel 09:17, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I was also hoping to get the column widths the same as though it is the continuation of one big table... --Eyrezer 09:59, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Eh... I started out with one big table, but I figured that splitting them up would make them easier to navigate and be a more efficient use of space. I would have to go back to a single table to do that, and I'm not really sure I want to. -- Ozzel 00:45, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

(3 Inq/1 Users/4 total)
Support
 * 1) --Eyrezer 04:18, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Thefourdotelipsis 06:19, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Interesting read, and a different type of FAN. Although, I do agree with Eyrezer, as I think that the title move of the article was completely unneeded&mdash;in fact, I have a lot to say about it, but I won't brandish them on here&hellip;for obvious reasons.  Greyman ( Paratus ) 14:11, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) *To clarify, it was originally at "Wooden-hulled battleship" until I moved it to "Farfalla's flagship" while nomming it. --Eyrezer 07:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Good work m8.-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 17:23, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 02:02, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Comments
 * 1) From the Forest of Goodwood
 * 2) * Title should be reverted to Wooden-hulled battleship and ((conjecture)) tag removed.
 * 3) **Against my better judgment but done.
 * 4) * The line "Farfalla then led broke through the blockade, in a crucial intervention that helped turn the tide of the war" in the intro needs to be fixed for grammar and clarity; also, "300 Knights" should probably be put in word form.
 * 5) **Fixed
 * 6) * When describing the third sail, the following statement is made: "this one [was] purple with a large crest emblazoned upon it—likely the Farfalla family crest". Is there a source for this?
 * 7) **Probably overreaching. Removed. --Eyrezer 07:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) * Is it really necessary to make a redlink out of "starship design"?
 * 9) **We lack an article on starship design, therefore a redlink.
 * 10) ***What I mean to say, is it necessary to make a link to an article that, in all likelihood, won't get made?-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 09:57, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) ****Do we want the Wookieepedia to be complete or what? --Eyrezer 10:12, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) *****May as well. :-)-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 17:23, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 13) * In general the Design section needs a fairly extensive prose revision; there are a number of stubby sentences and some awkward moments in the text.
 * 14) **Have redone some of this.
 * 15) ***Have redone a bit more, if that's okay.-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 17:23, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) * Links to colors (purple, gold. etc.) are not needed.
 * 17) **Done
 * 18) * Links to Jedi Order and New Sith Empire should be added to the History section.
 * 19) **Done
 * 20) * Should the "conflicting sources" template be added?
 * 21) *TIMMMMMBERRRRRRR!!!-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 08:11, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Image:Woodenbattleship.JPG, Image:Farfalla's flagship stern.JPG and Image:Farfalla's flagship cruising.JPG all need to be re-scanned&mdash;they're distorted. --Imperialles 10:06, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) *Rescanned two, but the other one is from issue no. 5, I believe, and I seem to have misplaced my copy. I'll keep looking, but if someone else can scan it, go right ahead. Or, y'know, we could just ignore the minor scanner artifacts (which are gone when thumbnailed anyway), but that might be too easy. ;-)-- Ozzel 01:19, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) **Now all three have been rescanned. --Eyrezer 04:33, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

(3 Inq/1 Users/4 total)
Support
 * 1) -- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 07:54, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Thefourdotelipsis 06:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 19:55, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 02:03, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * Image:Probot under guard.jpg needs to be reuploaded&mdash;it's low quality. --Imperialles 10:11, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) The infobox is not fully sourced. --Imperialles 10:32, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * 3) * Having two clauses that start with "though" in one sentence (last sentence of intro) reads awkwardly. Please vary up that sentence.
 * 4) **Addressed.
 * 5) * "Using his and his companions' skills, as well as drawing upon the Force, the party overcame a number of obstacles, including a malfunctioning series of flow control rooms and a corridor filled with blistering-hot steam that led to a computer access terminal." Reading this sentence aloud tells me that the first clause is sort of messy and it runs on a bit much.
 * 6) **Addressed
 * 7) * Could you describe how the terminal helped them thin the odds in their favor more specifically?
 * 8) **Addressed - at first I'd thought it'd be fluff to do so, but meh.
 * 9) * Mention that Shasa and her Fish F**k buddies were Force-sensitive please.
 * 10) **Addressed -- and may I point out, their relationship was entirely platonic!
 * 11) ***That better?-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 01:35, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) ****Sorry, the way you had it was fine after the first "addressed", I just forgot to strike it. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 07:24, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 13) * "Revan and his companions went on to confront the Sith Master in charge of the base; however, he was forced to slay two more Selkath apprentices as well as the Master in order to finish the mission and secure the needed data about the Sith Empire's plans to corrupt Manaan's youth by indoctrinating them into the dark side of the Force." Run-on sentence, let's cut down on joining two long sentences with semicolons. Instead, go ahead and make it two sentences and let the prose flow!
 * 14) **Addressed.
 * 15) * Some confusion on who is command of the base- that Sith Master or Grann?
 * 16) **Addressed with possible explanation.
 * 17) * Are there alternate possibilities for this battle? I believe there are, and they should be noted, somewhat concisely, in the BTS per the tag.
 * 18) **Addressed.
 * 19) * The quote heading "...presents evidence of Sith evil" could have "evil" reworded to something else. Duplicity might be a better choice to avoid any trace of POV.
 * 20) **Addressed.
 * 21) * "trio of Republic warriors" is a bit misleading, as HK-47 and T3-M4, or Canderous if he's in the party, cannot be described as Republic warriors. Really, neither can the Jedi.
 * 22) **Addressed.
 * 23) * The whole first sentence of the Preamble is atrocious. Need a bit more context than that, please. Assume the reader has less knowledge of the KotOR series than you give them credit for atm.
 * 24) **Addressed.
 * 25) * Ditch the term "Preamble." Try "prelude" or look at other battle FAs.
 * 26) **Addressed.-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 14:41, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 27) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 06:17, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * My second made-from-scratch FAN. Article meets requirements per Rule #18.-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 07:54, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * General prose quantity leaves something to be desire of, with lots of overextended sentence syntax. I pointed out or fixed the most glaring examples. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 06:12, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Better now. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 19:55, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

(4 Inqs/1 User/5 Total)
Support
 * 1) Havac 07:25, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Now get Ben's page up to scratch.  Firebird  [[Image:Moltresheadsig.PNG]] Phoenix Rising 12:18, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  Graestan ( This party's over ) 23:35, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Thefourdotelipsis 22:18, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 5)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 22:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) *From the squalid cubicle of Graestan:
 * 2) * Could perhaps the time period be established near the beginning of the intro?
 * 3) **Gave the timeline where we actually have a timeline. Damn brand-new eras! Havac 05:45, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) ***Actually, stating his ancestry does the trick; hadn't noticed that.
 * 5) * Explain why Ossus may have been in need of terraforming.
 * 6) **Ehhh . . . there's not much detail on it. I expanded it as much as I could. Havac 05:45, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) ***Explain what happened to Ossus that would cause it to have barren areas.
 * 8) ****That's just it. There's no explanation given. Is it related to the supernova? If so, why is it still barren when the rest of the planet already recovered? Is it related to the Yuuzhan Vong War? If so, we haven't heard about it. Is it just some random desert? We don't know enough to say any more than the fact that there were barren areas and Kol used them as a test ground for the important part -- terraforming worlds devastated by the YVW. Havac 23:27, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) *****Ah; thought the whole planet was still relatively barren at that point. My mistake. Graestan ( This party's over ) 23:35, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) * "Up until" is a bit awkward.
 * 11) **See about that. Havac 05:45, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 02:04, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 13) *From the sloop of Four Dot's desk armada
 * 14) ** "Skywalker spearheaded the Ossus Project, designed to rehabilitate the Yuuzhan Vong's public image by having them rehabilitate war-torn worlds," - The sentence needs a bit of rehabilitation. :P
 * 15) ***Ooh, that was silly. Havac 17:43, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) ** Is it confirmed that he's descended from Ben? If so, it would be better to not lineage from him, rather than Luke. I seriously don't know, well, because...you know.
 * 17) ***It's not. Havac 17:43, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) ** Using the Skywalker surname in a "Cade-intensive" part of the bio is a tad confusing. This is an instance in which first names become preferable for a short while.
 * 19) ***I don't know; they're consistently referred to as Skywalker and Cade, which keeps it from being too confusing. If you're using the surname, you're talking about the subject. If I start mixing Kols in there, then it becomes questionable when Skywalker refers to who and I either have to go all first names like we're in the bloody pub together or else it's confusing. The way it is, it's pretty simple, and most of the Skywalker stuff is put in context with stuff like "Skywalker told his son" or such.
 * 20) ***I'm still a bit iffy on it, but I see your point. If there was a large section where, say, he was partnered with Cade and did a whole heap of stuff, I'd probably have to make a stand, but as is, I suppose it's acceptable.
 * 21) ** The "Massacre at Ossus" section feels a tad like a play-by-play, but I'm not totally convinced...I dunno, maybe you could shave a bit off here, a bit off there. Not too much.
 * 22) ***I trimmed a little bit, probably the most extraneous detail. See about that. Havac 17:43, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 23) ****It could probably stand to lose more, but not an objectionable amount. Thefourdotelipsis 22:18, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 24) **That's all. Thefourdotelipsis 06:35, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * Would it be possible to find an infobox image without bits of speech bubbles, or to crop that one so they're out? - Lord Hydronium 07:41, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Accomplished. Havac 18:01, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

(1 Inq/1 User/2 Total)
Support
 * 1) --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 18:22, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Nutjob. Thefourdotelipsis 07:01, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) jSarek 03:14, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * Ditch the OOU quotes, and source the BtS (even if the revision of real-world sourcing passes, we still need a source for the fact that it was Wallace who invented the guy, since the book has two authors). jSarek 11:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * OOU quotes removed (though I think they did add to the article). Anderson added as co-author in the BtS, since I couldn't find a definitive source to say that Wallace created him. BtS beefed up some also. Cheers, --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 17:54, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I seem to recall Abel mentioning they were Wallace's creation somewhere; I'll see if I can find the quote. jSarek 03:14, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments

(2 Inq/1 User/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 00:19, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 2)  Graestan ( This party's over ) 19:35, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Thefourdotelipsis 22:12, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) *From the squalid cubicle of Graestan:
 * 2) * "Palpatine and Vader's death" is either incorrect or awkward.
 * 3) **Addressed.
 * 4) * "With the aid of Grand Admiral Afsheen Makati, Azrakel killed Kadann, though later discovered that this was but a weak impostor."&mdash;Subtle tense issues.
 * 5) **Addressed.
 * 6) * Weak last sentence of the intro; anticlimactic.
 * 7) **Addressed.
 * 8) * "Little is known"&mdash;Reword; worn cliché.
 * 9) **Addressed.
 * 10) * "The aforementioned"&mdash;Same.
 * 11) **Addressed.
 * 12) * "Dark side experiment" in two consecutive sentences is stilted.
 * 13) **Addressed.
 * 14) * "Series of covert mission"&mdash;Pluralize.
 * 15) **Addressed.
 * 16) * "Preferring to operate."&mdash;...?
 * 17) **Addressed.
 * 18) * Serial commas missing.
 * 19) **Addressed.
 * 20) * "Claiming to be simply be a"&mdash;Yeah.
 * 21) **Addressed.
 * 22) * "Kadann was among those struck down by his bitter apprentice, before being killed himself."&mdash;Specify.
 * 23) **I can't, I'm afraid. Evil Never Dies just says "Azrakel managed to destroy a number of the flabbergasted Prophets, including Supreme Prophet Kadann, before being permanently put down. Though the surviving Prophets thought they were now safe, within minutes of Azrakel's death, the Dark Lady Lumiya and her apprentice Carnor Jax finished the job." I assumed it was the Prophets who killed him, but CUSWE has Lumiya as the killer, and Ataru said in IRC that it's too ambiguous to say who did it.
 * 24) ***It's not what I meant; I am stating that the sentence sounds like it is establishing that Kadann died&mdash;twice.
 * 25) ****Ah. Addressed.
 * 26) * Source the BtS.
 * 27) **It sources itself.
 * 28) ***I still would like to see it sourced.
 * 29) * &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 01:32, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 30) **Thank you for your comments and input. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 13:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 31) Pounded Desk Thing
 * 32) * "Soon after Azrakel severed ties with the Empire, both Palpatine and Vader were killed aboard the second Death Star at Endor, and Kadann and the remainder of the Prophets went into hiding." - Too many "and"s.
 * 33) **Addressed.
 * 34) *That's all. Thefourdotelipsis 07:32, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * A very interesting character. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 00:19, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

(1 Inq/0 User/1 Total)
Support
 * 1) Havac 07:05, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Numerous redlinks.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 16:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) A few things:
 * Image:Karrde-closeup.jpg, Image:Karrde-screen.jpg, Image:Karrde-stressed.jpg, Image:Karrde-waiting.jpg, Image:Karrde-council.jpg, Image:Karrde-ambush.jpg, [[Image:Karrde-Calius.jpg]], Image:Karrde-intruder.jpg, Image:Karrde-vornskr.jpg, Image:Karrde-bride.jpg, Image:TalonInAction.JPG and Image:KarrdeNJO.jpg are all distorted and need to be re-scanned.
 * 1) *Where's the SWG info?
 * --Imperialles 17:23, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * Re-FA nomination. Havac 07:05, 11 December 2007 (UTC)