Talk:Allana Solo

Fanon
OK, I haven't read The Swarm War yet. (Is it even out anywhere?). Can someone confirm for me that this isn't fanon?TIEPilot051999 00:08, 18 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * It's in The Unseen Queen I believe, but I doubt that the name is canon. Therefore, I put a notice up. Admiral J. Nebulax 00:18, 18 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * The baby is in The Unseen Queen, the name is definitely not. Since The Swarm War is not out yet, the name must be fanon. I suggest we move it to an ambiguous page name ("Unnamed baby Solo", "Tenel Ka's daughter", or something) or delete it altogether. &mdash;Darth Culator   (talk)  00:26, 18 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, for the time being, I'd say move it to "Jacen Solo's daughter" until a name is found. Admiral J. Nebulax 00:28, 18 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Someone got an advance copy of The Swarm War, and they said it stated the girl's name is Allana. Solo is most likely not her last name however, as she is Jacen's secret (emphasis on secret) daughter. Link here (CAUTION: SPOILERS FOR SWARM WAR!) StarNeptune 01:34, 18 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Wow. Finally someone develops a spine and tells people to sit down and shut up. All these fears about centralized authority Post-Palpatine kept people from doing what needed to be done. But I digress. Should we start putting in stuff about the other characters in there, or should we just wait until The Swarm War somes out? -- SFH 02:30, 18 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the confirmation, StarNeptune. But as for the name, shouldn't it be "Allana Solo" anyway? After all, she was Jacen's daughter, even if she was kept a secret. Admiral J. Nebulax 12:50, 18 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * We won't know what's her full name until the Legacy series comes out. Besides, her surname may not necessarily be Solo, it might probably be Djo after her mother. After all, the women on her mother's side are all given their mother's surname, including Tenel Ka herself. Divinity 13:20, 18 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Then why not move it to "Allana Djo" for the time being? Admiral J. Nebulax 15:16, 18 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * I vote we keep it at Allana at the time being, but you could make "Allana Djo" a redirect like Allana Solo was. -- SFH 01:19, 19 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Good idea. Admiral J. Nebulax 20:38, 19 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * It should be Allana, but for the last name i do not know: Page 37 [The Swarm War]Darth Rage 10:31, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Uh, Darth Rage, we know that by now. Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 11:01, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Who Here Thought of the Possibility of Allana Being Named Padmé Before Dark Nest III: The Swarm War was Released?

 * I know I'm not the only one.
 * Okay, this is pointless. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 02:13, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Uh, I also did. -- SFH 03:42, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, it's pointless for a talk page, not a chat room or anything like it. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 13:37, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, is there a chat room that you know of where I can take this to then?
 * Nowhere on this Wikicity, I can tell you that. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 00:11, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Allana's Force sensitivity?
Where is this explicitly stated? I know that Ben was able to detect her in the Force, but does that actually prove that Allana is Force-sensitive? I'm just wondering why she's listed under Force-sensitive characters, unless Ben's ability to notice her is proof or it was stated elsewhere. 11thGuard 18:51, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Great Granddaughter of Anakin Skywalker, daughter of two powerful Jedi Knights. I'm comfortable calling her Force-sensitive. -- SFH 18:54, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, seriously. If your parents are Force-sensitive, wouldn't their children be Force-sensitive? Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 19:18, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Ideally, yes. But there have been flukes, such as Tigris, the son of Rillao and Hethrir, who was born without any Force-sensitivity.  I wouldn't worry about Allana, though.  I'm sure she'll be very strong in the Force.  She is, after all, the granddaughter of Princess Leia Organa Solo and the great-granddaughter of Anakin Skywalker.
 * That's not at all common, though. Even in-universe, it seems to be assumed that the children of Force-sensitives will also be Force sensitive. Red XIV 00:06, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * It's happened a lot, anyway. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 00:27, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I think it would be rather poetic if she wasn't Force-Sensetive. Or if she was, the decided not to becomea Jedi. SithPower 07:26, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd say it's very likely that she'd become a Jedi. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 11:21, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't it be a hoot if she ended up training as a Dathomir Witch, and not joining the Jedi at all? There needs to be more non-Jedi Force users out there, IMO.
 * She's going to die. It's a moot point. Jacen will not be stopped. Greedo 09:30, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't think Jacen would kill his daughter, the whole reason he became Sith was create a better galaxy for her. I think it's very likely she'll become a Jedi too. Jaina Leia Mara 16:05, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

When do you think that Allana is revealed to be the granddaughter of Han and Leia?
I think think that Allana is the Jacen's daughter might be revealed in Bloodlines because in the summary or whatever it is called, it says that Han Solo must come to terms with his family. That might mean Jacen is now a sith, but that statement might also provide readers with a reason to switch sides when allana and Tenel Ka are marked for death other than the solos being good friends with them --Darth EJ 05:10, 10 August 2006 (UTC)


 * For me I think Allana's relationship to the Han and Leia will be revealed in Tempest. Not only will their relationship will be revealed but they will learn that Jacen has become a Sith. Lieutenant Colonel Solo (Rogue Squardon Personnel) [[Image:Rogue_Squadron.svg|20px]] 15:14, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I think that opinions should be moved to The Senate Hall, but in Tempest will their relationship become common knowledge. Just to remind please leave all opinions and off-topic discussion in The Senate Hall. Darth Balls 01:46, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I think it will be revealed in Revelation Jaina Leia Mara 16:07, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Species
Anybody else think this constant adding of species is a little bit unnecessary? I can see adding Hapan in parentheses after Human, but that's a sub species. Come on. Drea 15:09, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I rather concur; when I saw the change from Hapan (which I would imagine she is, given that she was born and lives there) to Hapan/Dathomiri, I changed it to Hapan/Dathomiri/Corellian/Alderaanian to make a point. Well, rather, if the community thought the fourfold race designation was appropriate, then that's cool too, but it seemed inappropriate to include Tenel Ka's parents' races without including Jacen's parents'. Greedo 07:21, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Hapan is a sub-species of human. The others are not.  - breathesgelatin Talk 17:25, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Marked for Death?
I believe that is an innacurate assumption, especially in light of the details revealed by Denning in the Tempest article, where it is stated that Jacen views Allana as the one thing he will never sacrifice. I would submit that this detail be ommited, or at least altered, as we can infer that only Tenel Ka is in any danger in the upcoming novel. DawnStrike 21:24, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Let's keep this discussion on one page, viz. Talk:Tassels Greedo 21:41, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Physical description
May have missed something, but where does it say her hair is red and her eyes are grey? Darth Balls 07:35, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Tempest. QuentinGeorge 07:41, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank You.Darth Balls 09:12, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Allana Solo?
If Jacen is Allana's father, then wouldn't her name be Allana Solo? -- Cato Neimoidia 03:17, 20 January 2007 (UTC) Wouldn't her name be something like Allana Chume Ta' Djo? Since she is the eldest daughter of the Hapan Queen Mother (Tenel Ka Chume Djo)? This naming sequence is stated in Tenel Ka's section of Wookieepedia. Or her name (IF Tenel Ka and Jacen were in fact married) maybe it would have Solo in there somewhere...maybe something crazy like Allana Chume Ta' Djo Solo...haha Zadi 13:02, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope. Tenel Ka and Jacen aren't married, and Jacen isn't acknowledged as the father. -LtNOWIS 03:29, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Are we sure that they aren't married? Because, forgot which book, I remember reading that he commented about "my wife?" or some such thing... i'll re-re-re-re-re-re-re-read the books and see which book he said it in.Darth Balls 07:22, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, this is 2 months later since the last comment, but I just realized that if they didn't marry, it would be Allana Ka right? -- Cato Neimoidia 01:35, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * No. Tenel Ka's last name is Djo. However, no canonical source has listed any other name from Allana other than her first name, so we don't know if Tenel Ka chose to pass that name on to her daughter or not. ALL other names other than just simply "Allana" are speculative at this point. Wildyoda 01:38, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * To tell you, Darth Balls was correct. In Exile, it has Jacen thinking of who he is to sacrifice to become a Sith. He thinks "Will I have to kill my wife and daughter?". Is this proof enough? And yes, her last name is Djo, as females hold the power on Hapes. This technically holds Allana's last name between Solo and Djo. I'm assuming it is Solo, but to conceal privacy of her father's identity, she goes by Djo. TheNewDarthMalevlent ( The Sith shall rise to power!) |undefined 00:51, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you have a page number for where Jacen thinks "Will I have to kill my wife and daughter?"Oyam5000 16:43, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

BTS statement
"Allana is the first character in Star Wars Universe whose parents are not married/divorced." I'm pretty sure Tigris and Korto Vos (to name two) have a better claim to this than Allana does.  StarNeptune Talk to me! 17:01, 24 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Brianna also had parents who weren't married or divorced. Jessimaster 22:44, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay

 * I cannot tolerate this. (Just Kidding) I happen to be a Genealogist for over 500 different families including my own. Here are the name facts: (1) If Jacen and Tenel Ka are not married, then Allana would go by the name of Allana Djo. (2) If they are married, or someone just can't figure out what the brix her name should be, then she should be name Allana Djo Solo or Allana Ka Solo. I believe those to be the options. Sorry, had to say something. My head was beginning to ache. Vezz801 21:34, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, since Hapes is matriarchal society, and because Allana is positioned as the heir to the throne, it's likely she'd take the Djo name (or whatever the Hapan name is, it's still not entirely clear what Tenel Ka's last name is), whether or not Tenel Ka and Jacen are married. Nonetheless we can't add any of that until it's referenced in a canon source.  - breathesgelatin Talk 09:06, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Past Tense?
I have yet to read the latest book, but why is the article suddenly being written in the past tense? The spoilers for the latest book in this article mention nothing of the character dying. unsigned comment by 76.232.60.226

If you check the Manual of Style all articles are edited from a past tense point of view, just as they would be in a real world encyclopedia. It's just how things work around here, it allows all things to maintain a valid appearance. Also if you would like to be technical as of the time of Legacy she is probably dead therefore it gives credit to the style  N.Y.N.E. Comlink 05:12, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

THERE IS SOMETHIN' MISSING
THERE SHOULD BE A PICTURE. COULD WOOKIEPEDIA OR SOMEONE PROVIDE US WITH A PICTURE OR AT LEAST A CLEAR DESCRIPTION. PEACE OUT
 * hem hem - Lucasarts nor the Authors or Publishers have provided and acurate or current description of Allana, nor any pictures. Hopefully we will get a picture on a Japanese cover, otherwise I find it highly doubtful that they will, seeing that she is regrettably a minor character. P.S. if you type four tilde's (shift+ the key next to the '1' key) it will sign your name for you.Darth Balls 03:26, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

NOT TO BE RUDE OR ANYTHING: WHAT THE DO YOU MEAN ALLANA IS NOT A MAJOR CHARACTER SHE AND TENEL ARE MY FAVORITE CHARACTERS, well, Jacen too, BUT YEAH! I AGREE WITH YOU ON THE PICTURE THING, BUT YOU ARE IN WRONG WHEN YOU SAY SHE IS NOT A MAIN CHARACTER. BECAUSE OF HER JACEN SOLO TURNED TO THE DARK SIDE TO PROTECT HER. PEACE OUT! Darth Andrus 23:45, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

You'll get a picture when it's out. Until then, no, we don't any. Also, two things:


 * What the hell does her status as a semi-major character have to do with the chances of her getting an official picture?
 * And for the love of all that is holy, WILL YOU STOP TYPING IN GIANT CAPS LIKE THIS. Firebird 04:06, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

YA' KNOW WHAT!
ALLANA IS NOT A SEMI-MAJOR CHARACTER. SHE IS A MAJOR CHARACTER AND I WILL KEEP ON WRITING IN BIG LETTERS UNTIL YOU SEE MY POINT, FIREBIRD! 128.196.36.161 00:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay, one, chill out buddy. No need to get mad. Allana may be considered major or semi-major, depending on your point of view. She may be considered one because she is so young and has so few appearances in Star Wars literature. But what does that have to do with the article or her receiving a picture? We probably wil get a picture of her eventually, but for now we don't have one and we just have to make do. Darth Anakin 19:20, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Amelia - Allana
Looking at the previews for the Millennium Falcon book, it still refers to her as Allana. This seems to imply Amelia is treated only as a cover. This page should thus be still Allana Djo, not Amelia SoloJedi-Sith 13:56, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree. Her name should be Allana, with a mention of her name being Amelia. Zadi 14:15, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 15:53, 26 May 2008 (UTC)***Hmmm for some reason the option to move this back to Allana isn't given.... why is this? Jedi-Sith 10:48, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Only an administrator could move it back anyway, because Allana is already a page (redirecting to Amelia). Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 13:39, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh ok, well can an admin fix this then? Jedi-Sith 14:12, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah. Her given name is Allana, it seems as if Amelia is a cover. I assume that at some point she will reassume use of her given name. Plus, Amelia just doesn't sound like "Star Wars" enough ya know? Zadi 18:03, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * (Sigh of relief), glad nobody debated this. I was afraid when I read the ending of Invincible that Caedus and all of his decendents would have name controversies. Steves490 02:53, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * and yet we have people changing this article even closer to Amelia... change it back to Allana already! Jedi-Sith 03:35, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It should be changed back to Allana, that is her name and Amelia is just an alias.  Jaina Leia Mara Jedi Knight
 * Why hasn't it been changed? Zadi 22:05, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Couldn't stand seeing "Amelia" treated, in the infobox on the right and in the title, as if it were her true name, which it isn't. I couldn't change the title, but did change the name in the infobox to read "Allana (later "Amelia")". I'm not going to put a last name, considering the current controversy over what it should be.Titan monarch 23:48, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Come on, guys. Change it back to Allana. What's to say that she won't be called Allana by those closest to her?--Jedi Kasra 02:01, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Regardless of what people call her, in universe or out, her given name is Allana. You don't see Chewbacca's page titled "Chewy" just because everyone calls him that. Zadi 02:26, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * (Chuckles) I think EVERYONE is in agreement here.... change it already... Jedi-Sith 14:59, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * This should be taken to the F:SH or one of the administrators. The name should be changed.--Jedi Kasra 16:48, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Who changed it in the first place and did why didn't they discuss it first?Darth Solus 03:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay seriously, can an admin just change it back? Cos everyone agrees it's Allana, NOT Amelia  Jaina Leia Mara Jedi Knight
 * Let's do this properly, shall we? I can understand both sides of the argument given the nature of how Invincible left it, but if there is going to be a move on a popular article, then please vote and/or provide reasons for or against. Vote below, Greyman  @wikia ( Talk ) 20:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Vote to move
Keep at Amelia

Move back to Allana
 * 1) I think it should be Allana. Zadi 23:07, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Per the Millennium Falcon blurb. - Lord Hydronium 23:11, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 23:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 00:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Greyman  @wikia ( Talk ) 01:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) Per the Millennium Falcon blurb, Amelia is an alias, not her true name Jedi-Sith 02:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) Jedi Kasra 03:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 8)  Jaina Leia Mara Jedi Knight
 * 9) Steves490 20:50, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) Darth Solus 02:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC) move back to Allana.
 * 11) Titan monarch 22:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) Amelia is definitely an alias  09:27, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 13) Move it back to Allana. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 13:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * Wow WHY oh Why is this article STILL Amelia&hellip;look at the vote!!!&hellip;is there something we're not doing&hellip;is there something still that needs to be done to get this to happen?Jedi-Sith 10:38, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes&mdash;have patience. —Tommy ( There are no Jedi here ) 10:51, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, I'm not even about to engage in one of these "edit wars", especially about a relatively unimportant/uninteresting character. My only qualm is that the intro is poor in the condition that it is, having been recently revised. I rewrote it, giving it some substance, and leaving it in a condition in which it could be sufficiently expanded on, not just "reverted to something simple to appease the masses". You might want to just revise the one that was previously there, to correctly reflect the name switch you all are so fervently fighting for. Hope this helps. —Tommy ( There are no Jedi here ) 13:53, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * What are you talking about? We are just discussing the correct name.Zadi 22:56, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Usually a poll like this should be up for about two weeks, after that, we do what the majority of votes decided.--Jedi Kasra 01:06, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Jedi-Sith, calm down and keep your attitude off of the talk pages. Since I started the vote, I'm the administrator that is monitoring it. I will close it after the appropriate amount of time. Greyman  @wikia ( Talk ) 13:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * And so far, the poll has only been here for four days. That's not even a week.  Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 15:09, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hence the have patience statement made above. —Tommy ( There are no Jedi here ) 15:13, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I think we have all been patient long enough. Clearly a consensus has been reached. Instead of blocking people for editing a page to how it should be and how everyone agrees it should be, perhaps the original person who changed the name, without asking, should be blocked. Darth Solus 22:52, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * In case you didn't notice the statement above, Greyman will close the vote after the appropriate time frame has elapsed. And, incidentally, I am the one who changed the name without asking, and also, the administrators were, and are, fully aware of my hand in the matter. —Tommy ( There are no Jedi here ) 23:04, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Solus, just so you know for future reference since you give me the impression that you're like another user on this site, votes of any kind on Wookieepedia normally last for two weeks, no matter how one sided the vote is. I've went ahead and moved the page now, after only 10 days, since I believe that 10 days is enough time to allow for those who care enough to voice their opinions in a vote. So, remember this: Votes will take around two weeks to close, and if you think that you are above an ongoing vote of any kind, and you decide to change what is being voted on, then don't be surprised that your actions may/will lead to warnings and blocks by the administration. Lastly, Solus, you're the only one here who has made an issue out of this by believing that your opinion matters more than the then-ongoing vote; your actions clearly said to those watching, "I don't care if the vote is still going on, I'm going to undermine it because I think I'm right". So, seriously, don't be surprised that you got blocked for thinking that way. Greyman ( Talk ) 23:33, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Tenel Ka recieving Jacen's Force scream
Is it confirmed Tenel Ka recieved Jacen's cry, hence prompting her to put Allana in the Solo's care...I'm not saying this is wrong, I'm honestly not sure, since I've not got myself a copy of the novel yet and have only listened to abridged audio book which didn't have it in, ... but since it was abridged it could quite have easily neglected to show that bit... oh and why is this article STILL titled Amelia? Jedi-Sith 14:59, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I dont think it ever directly said they recieved it but since they escape the nanoattack i'm guessing that they did. Steves490 23:11, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Does Jaina know that Amelia is in fact Allana?
Does Jaina know that Amelia is in fact Allana?Sabe Ankaya 16:28, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes she does, it says somewhere in Invincible, but I'm not sure what page.  Jaina Leia Mara Jedi Knight


 * Its the very last page of the book.Darth Revanon 5:22, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you!!!Sabe Ankaya 15:36, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Can we add this quote from Invincible?
 * "Hello, Jaina. They tell me we're going to be sisters now."
 * "I guess we are, Amelia. Welcome to the family."
 * Allana and Jaina Allana Solo 20:57, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


 * on pg. 202 Jaina sees allana for the first time Tenel ka emerged from the building, holding the hand of a beautiful little girl with her mother's hair and a cute button nose. Jaina's heart broke. It was the first time she had ever seen her niece, and Allana's resemblance to Jacen at that age was striking.

Jania could tell who she was even before being introduced, so I think its safe to say she knew who she was after seeing her again just with a different name. Steves490 00:08, 5 January 2009 (UTC)