Talk:Tenel Ka Djo

So, did Tenel and Jacen go through some sort of formal marriage contract, or have they become the first couple in the Star Wars Universe to have a child out of wedlock? Not that there's anything wrong with that, mind you. I know that in TJK, the Hapan commander refered to Jacen as Tenel's new consort, but I was just assumed that the commander was misinformed. -- SFH 00:56, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * It's very specifically pointed out in TUQ that they're not married. CooperTFN 08:05, 6 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * I've been aware of that now for some time, but thanks anyway. But I wonder: Will the girl's iligitmacy have an impact on her legal claim to the Hapan throne? -- SFH 01:29, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Probably not, I'd say. Men aren't very important in Hapan society, so it probably makes little difference whether Tenel Ka bothered to marry the father of her heir. 68.47.234.131 15:34, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * The question you should really be asking is will her Jedi heritage have an impact on her legal claim to the Hapan throne? The Hapans are very anti-Jedi. Read their history to see why. So far the only Force-sensative Queen Mothers have been from one Force-sensative and one non Force-sensative parent. Will the Hapans accept a ruler with two Jedi parents? And if not, what will Tenel Ka do?--144.92.215.78 20:24, 29 September 2006 (UTC)User:Kyp-Durron

Year of birth question
On page 260 of Dark Journey, Ta'a Chume and Isolder are talking about Jaina, and Jaina is described as "a bit younger, actually" than Tenel Ka. So if Jaina is born in 9 ABY, shouldn't Tenel Ka also be 9 ABY, or possibly 8? 10 would be impossible. (I don't know whether her age was specifically stated, in absolute terms or relative to others, in the YJK series, but the line from DJ suggests that 10 ABY is an error and her year of birth should be 9.) -- 11thGuard 10:28, 07 Jan 2006 (CST)

That I want to know as well, and 10ABY is right. DJ was in error as far as I know. the YJK books stated Tenel Ka being 1 year younger than the Solokids. I just need the exact quote and proof for that. Please if anybody can help me there, it would be great. thx

Name question
Is Ka considered Tenel Ka's last name? I've always thought Tenel Ka is a name similar to, say, Mary Sue and that TK has a separate last name altogether (possibly Djo, as her mother), if any. But at least all the category links treat Ka as a last name. Answer, anyone? --Tinwe 10:58, 27 January 2006 (UTC) ''The ancient  woman stood as they entered the  room. "Welcome, Jedi Skywalker. And welcome great-granddaughter Tenel Ka Chume Ta' Djo." She embraced each of them in turn. ''Tenel Ka groaned. "Please," she said, "do not use my full name. And do not send word that we are here."''--Nathalia Mueller 15:58, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I believe her full name is Tenel Ka Chume Ta' Djo. I'm not sure why the title of the article does not include it...
 * Her full name is indeed Tenel Ka Chume Ta' Djo but I think she's not rather happy about it. She's only called this once (excerpt from YJK: Shadow Academy)


 * It's still her full name, even if she doesn't like it. It should be the title of this article. 68.47.234.131 15:37, 21 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Agreed. This really should be moved. Red XIV 00:02, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Technically, if she abandoned the name and made her name just Tenel Ka, it really shouldn't be moved. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:32, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Did she actually formally change her name, or is it just that she prefers to be referred to by her first name only? If it's the latter, her name is still Tenel Ka Chume Ta' Djo. Red XIV 22:12, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Most materials list her simply as Tenel Ka, though...
 * Chume Ta' is a Hapan royal style. Translated, her full name means "Tenel Ka, first born daughter of Queen Mother Djo".  StarNeptune Talk to me! 00:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Would this imply a switch back to just Tenel Ka? - Breathesgelatin 03:43, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Since there seems to be a controversy over what to call her, I say keep it as it is, but maybe mention it in the BTS.  StarNeptune Talk to me! 13:17, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The name of the article almost certainly needs redone: Chume Ta is a Hapan royal title denoting Tenel Ka's status as Crown Princess: as far as I know, it's not clear that she bore this title from birth, and she certainly ceases to be Chume Ta when she becomes Queen Mother (in Destiny's Way).
 * So replace it with her full title as Queen Mother? Well, the problem there is that there's some uncertainty whether the full style of the reigning Mother actually is.... Chume or Ta'a Chume? And it's also possible that we should prefix her name with Erenada ("She who has no equal", the Hapan equivalent of (Her) Majesty): but Erenada Tenel Ka Ta'a Chume Djo is probably a bit silly as a page title, to say nothing of the fact there's no clear canon evidence to say if it's right or not...
 * So, what then? Well, Teneniel Djo and Isolder simply appear under their given names, so we should probably go with Tenel Ka or Tenel Ka Djo. --McEwok 03:16, 11 August 2006 (UTC)


 * The article was recently moved. Was this based on something in Insider 90, or just on the discussion on this page? - Breathesgelatin 03:52, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 * What happened is that McEwok tried to move it, but did it in such a way that the page history was gone. I fixed it, but I don't agree with the move. It should have been discussed here first.  StarNeptune Talk to me! 07:26, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah ha. Is she referred to anywhere as Tenel Ka Djo? I think the move may have been unwarranted, also. - Breathesgelatin 14:13, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Me too. But to get back to the original point, "Ka" is to be considered a part of her first name and not a last name, right? So, she should be categorized like this:, or if she is moved back to Tenel Ka, just  (and not like this:  ). A minor thing, I know, but they tend to irritate me the most. ;) --Tinwe 14:24, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Infobox color
I don't really object to having the Jedi infobox for her (because she was a part of the Jedi Order), but she resigned and her primary affiliation is now the Hapes Consortium. I guess this box will have to do until we decide to whether or not to clump her in with the Political/GFFA/Neutrals. StarNeptune 06:09, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I suppose that the Hapes infobox was a good call overall, but we will see what the future holds for Tenel Ka. The Dark Nest Trilogy gave me the feeling that Tenel Ka's hold on the throne is more precarious than she let on. But then again, I also thought that Allana was going to be named Padme, so what do I know? -- SFH 01:24, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Given how ruthless Jacen is in protecting Tenel Ka and Allana, he might end up just killing all of her rivals for power. 71.236.33.191 05:01, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Marked for death
How do we even know that the Hapans marked her for death because she wouldn't secede? Bloodlines hasn't even come out yet. 207.200.116.196 01:15, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

It has now. And she will be marked for death by the Hapans and Jacen Solo. Zinnos


 * I hope they don't succeed in killing her and Allana, I like Tenel Ka...but it is an interesting story line. RushinSundaws 20:05, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I've kind of got to dispute that Jacen is actively planning on hunting them down, at least for the moment. The last we saw, hoping that he was wrong.  I think he's guessed that he may, but it was left just at that. DawnStrike 11:31, 28 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, with Denning's new interveiw concerning Tempest, Jacen would never sacrifice Allana. So I wonder what this means? Zinnos

DawnStrike 17:21, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Well Maybe Tenel Ka is the only person in danger, or maybe there'll be a new twist that hasn't been hinted at yet. What if he killed Jania? (Just Speculation)

New Picture
Anyone want the new cover picture for the main image? -Razzy1319 05:14, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * If we can get a high res version then yes, it should go in the infobox. For now, however, it's too low quality for that. QuentinGeorge 06:37, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The picture should be one from NJO, but not the one already on the site. The pictures arnt the best and dont do her justice.

More pictures
The article will look better if it had more pictures
 * Do we really need half of those images? They all look almost exactly the same. Keep the first four and last two, but the middle three are utterly redundant - Kwenn 21:11, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I just see no reason to delete them really...if you look, they all have minor differenes showing Tenel Ka as she ages along in the books...plus the page just looked so barren before, and I love images and think that the more we can have, the better, as they do no real harm to the article. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 21:16, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Those middle ones don't show age progression. The first and third look exactly the same, but the second one appears younger, and doesn't really look like Tenel - Kwenn 21:17, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't know if I'm seeing things or not then, but I do notice some small differences through each of these pictures. Additionally, though the second one may look younger to you, it is still Tenel Ka at a different stage of her life, and so it's possible to assume that she in fact ages strangely, appearing younger then older again, and so the image is the only real way to explain it. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 21:21, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Or sloppy artistry. Regardless of minor cosmetic details, they're all far too similar. Surely we can replace them with other images, or perhaps larger versions, including more characters, to at least add some variety? As of now, it looks just as bland as it would without images - Kwenn 21:23, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Well we can't replace them with other images, as there quite literally aren't any others, as I found while trying to look for more. We could include other characters from the covers, but that may include the text from the book itself or random other images that just plain wouldn't look right. Like I said, I just see no reason to delete them as they actually make the page look far better (at least at my resolution) than having less images. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 21:26, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I have to agree that they all look too similar. I think we should get rid of at least two of them. -- Ozzel 21:34, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree that some of them should go. Perhaps create a gallery if you wnat to keep them on the site. If you feel that pictures are required for those sections, I suggest we be a bit more creative with some relevant pics that are not necessarily of TK. --Eyrezer 04:34, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I've reverted it again, this time purely because the editor took no effort to make the pictures fit well together. If this can be done, and providing nobody else believes we need these images, I won't revert again. It just needs to look good. :) &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 23:18, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * How does that look? I left in two of the face pics, but spaced them out. I think the Who's Who pic is too long but will leave that for the mo. --Eyrezer 01:05, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The only problem I have now (other than that I liked them all :P) is that the pictures from the covers of Lightsabers and The Lost Ones are the wrong way around, chronologically so they should be changed around. I think I'll shove the rest in a gallery. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 01:12, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

There are other images if you google those are really bad pictures of Tenel Ka. They make her look ugly when she is supposed to be hot.

The article looks great now thanks

Spoilers
What exactly is so spoilerish for this page? There's nothing on here that hasn't come either from released books or released book summaries. Kuralyov 20:54, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

There are a lot of spoilers now. So it is good that a spoiler warning has been posted on this page. Zinnos