Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations



This page is for the nomination of "comprehensive articles". For a list of "comprehensive articles", see Category:Wookieepedia comprehensive articles.


 * Comprehensive article nominations history
 * Comprehensive article nominations archiving checklist

What is a "comprehensive article?"

A "comprehensive article" is an article that contains all information regarding the topic. Often, "comprehensive articles" cannot reach Featured or Good Article status due to their limited content. This process is intended to recognize articles that contain all relevant canon information, yet are still under the 250 word limit required for a Good Article. The purpose of this is twofold&mdash;firstly, to help users distinguish what is a stub, and what is merely a short article with no further relevant material to be added, and, more importantly, to highlight for the reader when they are reading something that has been judged definitely "comprehensive"&mdash;that is, a guarantee to the reader that whatever they are reading contains the sum total of all available content.

Nominations and promotions of the Comprehensive article process are overseen by a collective of users known as the "EduCorps," which is made up of the Inquisitorius, the AgriCorps, and various other experienced users who are considered qualified to adequately judge the nominated material.

Lucasfilm Ltd. and its many licensees continue to expand the Star Wars universe. Since new information might become available, it may be necessary to revoke a "comprehensive article's" status. A forum will be used to nominate articles that have fallen out-of-date. Members of the EduCorps will then post a warning template on that page, and a grace period of one week will be instituted in which the article can be improved. If there is a significant amount of new information, it is likely that once updated, the article will become eligible for Good article status, and thereby ineligible for Comprehensive article status.

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An article must&hellip;


 * 1) &hellip;be well-written and detailed.
 * 2) &hellip;be unbiased, non-point of view.
 * 3) &hellip;be sourced with all available sources and appearances.
 * 4) &hellip;follow the Manual of Style, Layout Guide, and all other policies on Wookieepedia. This is, of course, within reason. If a topic only has a very limited degree of content that cannot be divided up into the relevant article sections, it is not required that it follow the Layout Guide precisely. This is to be judged on a case-by-case basis.
 * 5) &hellip;following the review process, be stable, i.e., does not change significantly from day to day and is not the subject of ongoing edit wars. This does not apply to vandalism and protection or semi-protection as a result of vandalism.
 * 6) &hellip;not be tagged with any sort of improvement tags (i.e. more sources, expand, etc).
 * 7) &hellip;have no redlinks.
 * 8) &hellip;have all relevant canon information presented.
 * 9) &hellip;be completely referenced for all available material and sources. See Sourcing for more information. While this is not required for an article possessing a singular source, it is encouraged, as it provides both uniformity and a good infrastructure should the topic be referenced in any future materials.
 * 10) &hellip;have all quotes and images sourced.
 * 11) &hellip;provide at least one relevant quote on the article if available.
 * 12) &hellip;include a "Behind the scenes" section for In-Universe articles.
 * 13) &hellip;counting the introduction, the article body, and "Behind the scenes" material, must not exceed 250 words in length (not including captions, quotes, or headers, etc). Any articles exceeding the limit should be taken to the Good article nominations page for consideration.

How to nominate:


 * 1) First, nominate an article you find is worthy of comprehensive status, putting it at the bottom of the list below. Nominated articles must meet all thirteen requirements stated above.
 * 2) Add CAnom at the top of the article you are nominating.
 * 3) Be sure to place sign in the "Nominated by" line when the nomination is posted for voting.
 * 4) Others will object to the nomination if they disagree that the article is good enough; they will then supply reasons for doing so, and ways to improve the article in accordance with the established rules.
 * 5) Nominators and supporters will adjust the article until the objectors (with reasonable objections) are satisfied. Objectors may also make alterations&mdash;if there is any reason for contention on a given point, it should be settled in a civil manner in the nomination field itself.
 * 6) Users may not vote on their own articles.
 * 7) There is no limit to the amount of nominations a given user can submit at any given time.

How to vote:


 * 1) Before doing anything, be sure to read the article completely, keeping a sharp eye out for mistakes.
 * 2) Afterward, compare the article to the criteria listed above, and then either support or object the article's nomination.
 * 3) *If you object, please supply concrete reasons for doing so, and how it can be improved.
 * 4) As stated above, any objections will be looked upon by the nominator, supporters, and anyone willing to improve the article, and action will be taken to please the objectors. Do not strike other users' objections; it is up to the objector to review the changes and strike if they are satisfied.
 * 5) There are several ways in which an article can receive the required number of votes. Within a 48-hour period of nomination, only EduCorps votes will count towards the total, although anyone may choose to vote in that window. If two members of the EduCorps support a nomination in that window, and there are no outstanding objections, the article can be considered a "Comprehensive article" and be tagged with the template 48 hours after the initial nomination.  The talk page will also be tagged with the CA template. When the 48 hours are up, any user's votes will contribute towards the total. If one EduCorps member has voted for an article after a week, three regular votes will be required. After the 48 hour period, an article can still also pass with just two EduCorps votes.
 * 6) Once a nomination is successful, it will be placed on the Comprehensive article list. Instructions on how to archive nominations, successful or otherwise, can be found here. Anyone can archive a nomination&mdash;just make sure it has the correct number of votes, has been nominated for at least a week (or 48 hours if there are two EC votes), and that there are absolutely no outstanding objections. If you are not sure how to do this, just ask, and someone will likely be more than willing to help you. Also, if you think you can slip one past us, think again&mdash;someone is always watching you.

All nominations will be considered idle and are subject to instantaneous removal by EduCorps members if objections are not addressed, or at least not answered, after a period of 2 weeks.

Porso Hill

 * Nominated by: Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 14:25, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Place of a Hutt's comeuppance

(1 ECs/1 Users/2 Total)
Support
 * 1) I moved the game template to only encompass the optional stuff. Looks good! ~ SavageBob 03:39, October 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2)  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 16:31, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Prepare to be savaged...
 * 2) * Yeah, I'm not sure why the game template is there. Is there a possibility that if the player takes other actions that the hill won't be surrounded by islands? That there were no missile launchers on them? That the vehicular upgrade wasn't there? It seems odd that any of this stuff might not be there based merely on player actions. ~ SavageBob 20:02, September 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) **Well, all of it is there no matter what; the mechanics is the player's choice to pick up the upgrade. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 21:06, September 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) *** OK, in that case, I think the template can be removed. You're not stating anything that varies based on player characater actions; you don't even mention that anyone ever picked up the upgrade. ~ SavageBob 01:34, October 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) ****I added info about Sykes picking up the upgrade. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 02:26, October 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) Please add a Location infobox.  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 22:37, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) *Indeed. Can I say it was formed when Naboo coalesced, as its a geographic location? ;) Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 16:27, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 8) **Actually, no, because for all we know it could be a man-made hill. :P Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 16:31, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 9) Shouldn't this article have the NEC source for 32 BBY like all the others? Menkooroo 03:02, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * 10) *I wasn't planning on sourcing this article. Unless someone complained. But yes, I would source the date that way. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 15:57, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11) **Consider this a complaint, then. :^P If the 32 BBY isn't mentioned in the game itself, probably the safest bet to source it to NEC like in the other Battle for Naboo noms. Menkooroo 00:16, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

Comments
 * Is the "gamemechanics template" too much? Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 14:30, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Widow's Valley

 * Nominated by: Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 14:25, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: So named for the unstable spires.

(1 ECs/3 Users/4 Total)
Support
 * 1)  Darth Karika  will destroy your planet! 20:09, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2)  1358  (Talk) 16:33, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) ''' Bonslywizard Trade Federation Symbol.jpg( Send a transmission ) 00:50, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) Whoops; thought I had already supported this. ~ SavageBob 02:02, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Karika
 * 2) * The body could be split up into three sentences.
 * 3) ** Needs a BtS.  Darth Karika  will destroy your planet! 16:26, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) ***Done. Thanks for the suggestion. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 20:01, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) Xd1358
 * 6) * "...near the south ridge of the city of Theed." Reads awkwardly. Perhaps the capital city Theed instead?
 * 7) * "Sykes was a pilot of the Royal Naboo Security Forces and flew through the Valley during a battle against the Trade Federation Droid Army at the end of the Invasion of Naboo in 32 BBY." Okay, this is a weird sentence. You must get this and the earlier sentence to run smoother. Please see what phrasing adjustments you can make. 1358  (Talk) 21:47, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 8) **How does it read now? Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 02:48, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * 9) ***It's still pretty choppy. It's like, which is not good.  1358  (Talk) 19:30, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * 10) ****Is there an improvement now? Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 02:33, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11) The Wizard did it
 * 12) * There needs to be some resolution to the battle. Did the Security Forces win, or the Federation? --''' Bonslywizard Trade Federation Symbol.jpg( Send a transmission ) 15:32, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 13) **Details once thought irrelevant are now added. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 01:55, October 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * 14) Soresu'
 * 15) *If knocking over the pillars are not necessary, shouldn't Gamemechanics be used?
 * 16) **Should it be? Probably. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 02:27, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 17) ***Make sure that only optional things are included in the template. I think the proton bombs are required for mission completion, and there may be others. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 03:05, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 18) *any surviving convoy vehicles on the bridge were destroyed. How? By whom? SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 01:17, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 19) **By the exploding thermal detonators. Is it not clear enough? If not let me know. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 02:27, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 20) ***It isn't because you haven't said anything about them being destroyed prior to the proton bombs. This makes it seem as if some of the convoy vehicles survived the bomb detonation, and were then destroyed in some other way. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 03:05, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 21) *It is not necessary to destroy the pillars during the mission to delay the convoy. This makes it sound like it was intentionally destroyed by Sykes. In the body, however, you just say that they were knocked down. Please clarify. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 03:05, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 22) **Here's how the mission ends. By blowing the detonators with your bombs, or lasers, or destroying the MTTs (difficult to do without knocking down the pillars to delay them). Take your pick. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 04:42, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

Comments
 * I could find a quote if necessary. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 14:25, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Um...where's the page? =/ --''' Bonslywizard Trade Federation Symbol.jpg( Send a transmission ) 21:44, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know; it won't show up when running a search for it. The only way to go to it is through a page which links to it (BFN appearances or Battle of the south ridge). Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 21:50, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * The apostrophe was different. --Eyrezer 23:10, September 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * I went back and made it super-comprehensive. You may want to verify everything is correct. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 02:48, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry to sound like a broken record, but I think the Unidentified Naboo canyon mentioned in the article needs to be linked and created. ~ SavageBob 17:15, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Unidentified minelayer

 * Nominated by: Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 14:25, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: ~One second of screentime.

(0 ECs/3 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) "What happens when you get to 999?" "Nothing. You just suck!" NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 17:08, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) ~ SavageBob 21:21, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) Menkooroo 00:05, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) I suggest you merge the intro and the history. There's no point of having them both in a super short article like this.  1358  (Talk) 11:45, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) *Okay, so moved. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 02:26, October 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) **Sorry for completely forgetting this objection&hellip; 1358  (Talk) 08:38, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) "It's never the first one!"
 * 5) * Your sentences are very choppy.
 * 6) **Sure. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 17:08, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) * I know CAs are lax about following the layout guide, but you could definitely write a Characteristics section for this. That also means you'd have to write a brief History if not a Role section as well. See here.
 * 8) * Your BTS could also use more information, i.e., which level they appeared in and who made the game. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 01:54, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 9) **How does the article look now? Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 02:28, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 10) ***First, the Intro and History are too similar. You must reword the sentences and, ideally, have a significant difference in length (shorten the intro).
 * 11) ****Done. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 21:55, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 12) *** Give the title of the level in the Bts.
 * 13) ****Added. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 21:55, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 14) ***JFFR, when someone asks for who made the game, they mean the developers (in this case Factor 5), not LucasArts.
 * 15) ***The Characteristics section should include a physical description. I still suggest a Role section, but due to the History section detailing what would be in it, I will not push for one. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 03:07, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 16) ****"Tan colored flying blocks." Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 21:55, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 17) *****Those aren't simply blocks. For example (Don't phrase it like ths in the article) The tops are pyramids, the bodies are square, and they have four drops on each corner of the body. And of course they fly. They're starfighters. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 22:12, October 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * 18) ******Expanded. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 14:37, October 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * 19) *******Do you know what kind of mines? NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 17:36, October 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * 20) ********Floating proximity mines. I am sure we don't have an article on them. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 19:02, October 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * 21) * Are they actually called "minelayers" in the game? If not they cannot be referred to as such in the article. It should instead read "ship" or some equivalent. It can also say they were used as minelayers if that is the case. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 03:07, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 22) **Name changed. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 21:55, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 23) * A mention of Sykes being in the stolen gunboat, concealing his identity from the minelayers, should be added. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 03:07, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 24) *Added. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 21:55, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 25) *Sorry, I overestimated my free time, so I fixed certain things myself. It'll take time for me to get back to you on the other things as well. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 22:12, October 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * 26) *That they are affiliated with the TF Droid Army is currently only in the infobox. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 22:12, October 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * 27) **Heh. Not anymore. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 14:37, October 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * 28) Whoops
 * 29) * The article uses both "Andrevea River" and "The Andrevea River". Pick one and stay consistent, baby!
 * 30) *As a note, the Andrevea River article doesn't seem to be consistent on that, either. Even though it's already passed its nomination, could you consistitize that one, too? Menkooroo 04:24, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 31) **Both done. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 16:38, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Comments
 * Who wants to place bets on whether I have to move the page? Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 14:25, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, it needs to be moved to Unidentified minelayer. :P 1358  (Talk) 12:10, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just UnID minelalyer, and not UnID minelayer (TF)? Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 20:01, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, if there are no other unidentified minelayers, no (TF) is needed. 1358  (Talk) 13:49, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Page moved
 * Slightly related to the above, the current title made me think this article would be about a person, not a ship. Perhaps "Unidentified minelaying ship" or somesuch might be better? Just a suggestion; good article. ~ SavageBob 21:21, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * I appreciate the suggestion, but I would prefer to get a second opinion, as I have a tendency to mis-name titles. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 16:38, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Kalasaad Woztu

 * Nominated by:  Darth Karika  will destroy your planet! 13:55, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Part 2

(1 ECs/1 Users/2 Total)
Support
 * 1) I feel lucky. Menkooroo 00:50, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Menk loves me.  1358  (Talk) 16:39, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) No whammies no whammies no whammies stop! ~ SavageBob 05:53, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Xd1358
 * 2) * "&hellip;the Outer Rim[2] planet Vorzyd V, a world famous for&hellip;" What? A world famous what? Also, do we really say world famous in the Star Wars universe?
 * 3) * "&hellip;including as the amusement park&hellip;" Improper English.
 * 4) *In the future, please make sure to proofread your work. 1358  (Talk) 21:00, October 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) **Both fixed.  Darth Karika  will destroy your planet! 23:20, October 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) **Sorry to butt in --- that first sentence actually said a world famous for... as in, it's a planet famous for its gambling. :^D Menkooroo 15:12, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) ***Ah, I hate myself now. >_< 1358  (Talk) 16:59, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 8) ****But I love you, and that's all that matters. Nothing on Vorzyd V (a world famous for its gambling) can keep us apart! Menkooroo 00:24, October 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * 1) Whoa!
 * 2) * Right now, the majority of the article is sourced to The Essential Atlas and its online companion. The sourcing should look like: "Kalasaad Woztu was, in 22 BBY, the Prime Minister of the[1] Outer Rim[2] planet Vorzyd V ... and the beaches of the[1] Inner Rim[3] planet Amfar..." Currently, info from the Holonet Article is sourced to the Atlas. Menkooroo 15:12, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) **Fixed.  Darth Karika  will destroy your planet! 21:44, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

Trading village (Naboo swamps)

 * Nominated by: Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 15:04, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Who wants to go live in a swamp?

(1 ECs/2 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) ~ SavageBob 00:18, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2)  SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 16:54, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) Menkooroo 19:23, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Object
 * Prepare to be savaged...
 * "destroys every target." What are the targets? ~ SavageBob 16:00, September 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Reworded. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 21:17, September 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's better, but the wording still assumes knowledge of how the game works. What are the "military targets?" Are they buildings? People? Weapons? ~ SavageBob 00:30, October 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * I am not sure how to word it. It is a scenario where every civilian/military sprite model (people, vehicles, fighters) is present and must be destroyed. No other objective. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 21:26, October 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * I added what you said. Hopefully it's accurate. ~ SavageBob 00:18, October 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Looks great! But even though it's in the BTS, can you provide just a couple of words of context on Darth Maul and his Scimitar? Menkooroo 13:57, October 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. Slightly expanded. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 14:40, October 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * The context on the Scimitar is great. But I'm looking for something on Maul himself, too --- something like "Sith Lord", or, if you're feeling crazy, "villain from The Phantom Menace (after all, it IS bts :^P )". Menkooroo 16:43, October 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sith Lord it is. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 19:14, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Comments
 * Is it for sure that the village featured in the bonus level is the same village? It looks totally different. Any sources? Octurion 16:36, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Absolutely. Its several sections of the village and the countrysde from the second level. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 20:55, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Fibersaw

 * Nominated by: NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 03:37, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: For Walter

(1 ECs/2 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) Slice! Menkooroo 03:10, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2)  SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 22:11, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) Not what I expected a fibersaw to be, but a good article nonetheless. ~ SavageBob 21:17, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

Object
 * The article seems to be more about JK-13 security droids than it does fibersaws. I think it would be better to discuss the fibersaw first (it had razor-thin dimensions, it could slice through a droideka), and then make the comparison with the security droid afterward. Whaddya think? Menkooroo 03:10, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree. Changed. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 17:47, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

Eekar Oki

 * Nominated by:  Clone Commander Lee  Talk 18:31, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: ~220 words

(0 ECs/0 Users/0 Total)
Support

Object

Xd1358
 * "Around 21 BBY, he attended a meeting in the Jedi Temple communication center in which General Grievous informed the Jedi High Council of his capture of Jedi Master Eeth Koth." Grievous informed the Jedi of his capture while in the tower.
 * Fixed.
 * I was referring to the intro. 1358  (Talk) 18:06, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed,
 * I took care of this one; see what I did. 1358  (Talk) 18:55, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Please go through the article and copy-edit it.
 * Copy-edited.
 * I still see a typos and a missing apostrophe (that's in the Bts). 1358  (Talk) 18:06, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Now?
 * Punctuation error in the beginning of the bio.
 * Fixed.
 * Ranks should be capitalized if they are referring to an individual.
 * Fixed.
 * Remains. 1358  (Talk) 18:06, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed.  Clone Commander Lee  Talk 18:11, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll read through it later. 1358  (Talk) 18:36, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Awaiting your objections.  Clone Commander Lee  Talk 18:01, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Any reason why hologram is capitalized?
 * Nope.
 * How do you know Oki was present it the temple when Grievous captured Koth?
 * Fixed.  Clone Commander Lee  Talk 16:44, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1358 (Talk) 18:55, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't review on the CAN, but after a passing look at the article, I see a lot of unnecessary redirects. This has been a problem for you in the past, Lee. Also certain grammatical errors.  JangFett  (Talk) 03:20, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Should be gone.  Clone Commander Lee  Talk 17:29, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey Lee, if you'd like an easy way to see which links lead to redirects, copy  to either User:Clone Commander Lee/monobook.css or User:Clone Commander Lee/monaco.css (or [[User:Clone Commander Lee/Wikia.css, if you use the new Wikia skin), depending on which skin you use. After you have added it, purge your cache and all links to redirects should be orange. Cheers.  1358  (Talk) 17:38, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks Xd.  Clone Commander Lee  Talk 17:51, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

'''Prepare to be savaged... but not by Bob!'''
 * 'Oki was discovered to be Force-sensitive and taken by the Jedi Order for training" is sourced to Grievous Intrigue. This may sound nitpicky, but... that's conjecture. He appears as a background character in the episode, and the episode guide identifies him as a Jedi, and that's all we know about him. We can't infer anything about his early life, or about anything other than when he was standing there in the room, even something as basic as what you've stated. Especially considering that it's sourced to Grievous Intrigue. As unlikely as it seems, he could be one of Djinn Altis's Jedi, or his training could have happened outside of the Jedi Order, or any number of other possibilities --- we just don't know anything at all about his past. I really don't feel like a fleeting background appearance is enough of a basis to infer "was discovered to be Force-sensitive and taken by the Jedi Order for training". I think the article should stick with what we do know and let the reader connect the dots, and all that we do know is that he was a Jedi who lived during the Republic's waning years and that he was standing there in that room. See, for example, Unidentified Jedi (Battle of Alderaan). A great example of a Jedi article that makes no assumptions beyond what's seen on the screen. Sorry if this was long-winded. :^P
 * I feel like the article would be better off without an intro. It's definitely short enough that it doesn't need to be summarized in an intro, ya know? ie, the intro doesn't add anything to the article and just kind of seems like baggage. Thoughts? Menkooroo 07:11, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

Unidentified Gotal speeder bike rider

 * Nominated by: ~ SavageBob 05:10, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Damn you, Menkooroo!

(1 ECs/1 Users/2 Total)
Support
 * 1) Live every week like it's Gotal week! Menkooroo 05:48, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) --Eyrezer 11:08, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Object
 * Can you mention that it took place in 32 BBY? That's all from me, and thank you for validating Gotal week! ^^ Menkooroo 05:17, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oops! Fixed. ~ SavageBob 05:23, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry to be nitpicky, but can 32 BBY be sourced to Anakin to the Rescue, p. 35? NEC might be the safest bet. Menkooroo 05:32, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure a ref was absolutely necessary, but in the spirit of Gotal Week, I did it, maa-aaa-aan! ~ SavageBob 05:41, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

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Shagrad Loset

 * Nominated by: Menkooroo 07:03, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Gotal week is anything but weak!

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 * 1)  SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 07:58, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) I gave the BTS another look. If you prefer, I won't get upset or oppose if you want to change it back. ~ SavageBob 17:10, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

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 * Prepare to be savaged...
 * From the lead quote: "We specifically asked the Jedi stay out of this." Is there a missing "to" here? If not, I suggest adding a [sic], since the quote reads oddly. ~ SavageBob 21:13, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Is that what [sic] is for? I actually had no idea. Let me know if I did it right. :^)
 * Yup! For fixing errors in the OS. ~ SavageBob 03:56, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, I changed the bts back to past tense, as present tense read a little awkward with the "published in 2002" at the end. I hope that's OK. Menkooroo 03:51, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think it's better in present tense in this case. The subject of the verb is Loset, not the author or creator of the source, and Loset appears in that source to this date (you can even click the link and check!)
 * Just checking to see if you want to keep discussing this. Menkooroo 13:15, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, I'm not sure why it's necessary to include lines that give no real information, such as, "It is Loset's only appearance to date." This type of sentence (along with "He has not appeared in any other sources", etc. seem superfluous to me. I admit this last objection may be something that needs CTing, but I thought I'd mention it. ~ SavageBob 03:56, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think it really needs CT'ing --- I've always seen it as a harmless sentence that an article-writer can add to the end of a bts if they want in order to avoid one-sentence paragraphs (which is something I always try to avoid). I've always thought that it was the choice of the writer, and I would hate to see a rule implemented that said "You MUST add it!" or "You CAN'T add it!" :^P Ditto with past vs. present tense --- if there's only been one source/appearance, I always gathered that past or present tense were equally OK? Menkooroo 04:07, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Not to butt in, but such a line does give information&mdash;it's just letting the reader know when, where, and how often the subject has appeared, so it's no different than listing off what sources the subject has appeared in. This fits fine in the BTS. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 04:24, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * It still rankles (what does it add that can't be gleaned from glancing at the list right below it?), but I won't object over it. ~ SavageBob 05:18, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * If there's any way you think it can be reworded and improved, definitely let me know. The problem with comprehensive article bts's is that most of them are just a rehash of the source list that can be viewed below. "So and so appeared in blah blah blah novel" is an example of that, too. I just like to make every paragraph more than one sentence, ya know? Menkooroo 13:15, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

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Unidentified female (Anchorhead)

 * Nominated by: Darth Morrt 15:21, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:

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 * How do you feel about jettisoning the intro? The article is so short that an additional summary of it isn't really needed. Most CA's don't have 'em 'cause they don't need 'em. Menkooroo 07:17, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Cut. Darth Morrt 08:17, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

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Green-eyed wadie-platt

 * Nominated by: Eyrezer 04:58, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: None.

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 * 1) Provided Soresu's objection is addressed, of course. ~ SavageBob 21:09, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2)  SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 12:26, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) Check out the context I added. Menkooroo 07:20, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

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 * 1) Soresu
 * 2) * Could you give a date for the droids' arrival on the planet, just to give an idea of the timeframe in which they existed. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 12:40, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) **Done. --Eyrezer 01:54, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

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Taunt

 * Nominated by: Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 21:02, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: WP:TOR

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 * 1)  SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 01:22, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

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 * 1) Soresu
 * 2) * Could you date the Cold War?
 * 3) **Not really&mdash;it's start date is unspecific, and its' end has not been established. The date of the game itself is also up in the air. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 00:07, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) * You call his appearance a mention in the bts, but there is no mo tag? Which is it? SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 23:41, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) **It's not an appearance&mdash;its a source, which doesn't require mo tags if I remember correctly. But I've added 1stm just for the sake of not having to do it when he may or may not be mentioned in-game. Thanks for the review. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 00:07, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

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 * I put this dood/doodette/it in the criminal category, because they're listed as a "known associate" of the criminal Vette. If you have an issue with that feel free to remove the cat. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 21:02, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

Flash

 * Nominated by: Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 22:13, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:WP:TOR

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 * 1)  SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 01:22, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

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 * 1) Soresu
 * 2) * Same as above. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 23:41, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) **Same as above. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 00:08, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

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 * Same as above. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 22:13, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

Plasmajack

 * Nominated by: Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 22:27, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:WP:TOR

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 * 1)  SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 01:22, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2)  1358  (Talk) 15:49, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

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 * 1) Soresu
 * 2) * Same as above.
 * 3) * Mention that Vette is a criminal, otherwise it's unclear how Plasmajack is classified as one. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 23:41, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) **Same as above, and done. Thanks. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 22:27, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

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 * Same as above. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 22:27, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

Maysano

 * Nominated by: ~ SavageBob 05:31, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: He finally has a name!

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 * 1) This guy's cool. Almost as cool as a Gotal. Menkooroo 13:27, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * WP:TCW.  Clone Commander Lee  Talk 14:23, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

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Unidentified Gotal gambler

 * Nominated by: Eyrezer 08:02, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Is that a bandwagon I see?

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 * 1) I love you guys. Menkooroo 13:21, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Time to nom Ssty, Ey! ~ SavageBob 17:07, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

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Unidentified Gotal patron

 * Nominated by: Eyrezer 08:02, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Why, yes it is!

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 * 1) This Gotal was in the casino winning money because Gotals WIN AT EVERYTHING Menkooroo 13:25, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) An Eyrezer article from TNR that's not an obscure sentient species! ;P ~ SavageBob 17:03, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

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Unidentified Crystal Jewel patron

 * Nominated by: Eyrezer 08:02, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: I needed to create this article for the above Gotal, so here it is.

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 * 1) Is he a man? Or is he an astro-man? Menkooroo 13:30, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Gotals and men, Gotals and men, they go together like a horse and carriage... Or not. ~ SavageBob 17:05, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

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Aubin Kleej's mother

 * Nominated by: Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 08:49, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: A Gotal eclipse of the heart.

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 * 1) It's been a good week. Menkooroo 02:14, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Very nice, Trayus.&mdash;  04:33, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) ~ SavageBob 15:28, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4)  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 15:45, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

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 * Should the "The" in "The Crucible" be capitalized? It is once but isn't another time. I think the link to is a redirect, too.
 * According to JJM's notes, "The Crucible" is the full, proper term. I've fixed the wording and will get around to moving the page. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 02:07, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * In the bts, can you mention what KOTOR 40 is (a comic issue)?
 * Sure thing. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 02:07, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hooray! Gotals! Menkooroo 13:39, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Gotally. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 02:07, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nayayen wonders if he had anything to do with this...
 * Where exactly did you get the time of their capture as "prior to the ignition of the Mandalorian Wars"?
 * Also, the only hint I've found of Chantique being responsible for severing Goethar's cones was a suspicion by Zayne Carrick, it's never actually confirmed anywhere is it? I'd be tempted to reference KOTOR46 as the source for Chantique, your call on that though. NAYA   YEN   10:51, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

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 * In honor of Menk's Gotal week. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 08:49, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, no, you got it all wrong, Gotal week is for everybody! Menkooroo 13:39, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Siro

 * Nominated by: Menkooroo 15:04, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: My penultimate nom for Gotal week.

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 * 1) Even without an intro, you are currently at 252 words, making this ineligible for CA. Give it a mini-intro and take it to the GAN!  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 15:05, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) *Count again! :^P I removed some extraneous stuff, and not just for the sake of the word count (for truth! I did it before I read your comment). Yay salience! Menkooroo 15:12, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) **Haha, well you're now at 247 words. I still think it would be most beneficial to give this a short intro and put it up to GAN, seeing as it is just three words short and the whole purpose of the CAN was to make it so articles that phsyically couldn't get up to 250 words could still have some sort of status, but I suppose that's up to you. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 15:25, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) ***I actually feel pretty bad about the amount of context that's in the article already. I cut out a lot during my first draft in order to keep the article as focused on Siro as it could possibly be, and even so, not very much of it is about the Goat. An intro here would be difficult to do without a lot of context itself, and the repeated detailing of context would, IMO, make the article seem like it was more about the events surrounding Siro's death than about Siro. Keeping it short and sweet gives it the focus that it needs when it's so context-heavy. And I mean, if a character only appears in like, two lines out of the entire book, do we really need to make him a GA when we can just as easily make him a CA? Menkooroo 15:58, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) ****Fair enough; like I said, it's up to you. :) Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 16:12, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

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Art Deco

 * Nominated by: Darth Morrt 11:19, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: The app and source list is copyed from 3PO, but the novel, which don't show him, are cut.

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 * Not to be a party-pooper, but I'm pretty sure this article shouldn't exist. The various drafts of ANH used a lot of real-world terms to describe things --- Han Solo, for example, is called a tough James Dean style starpilot in the third draft, but that doesn't mean James Dean exists in the Star Wars Universe; it's just something real-world to compare to for reference's sake, and Art Deco almost certainly is too. Admittedly, the fourth draft is closer to the finished product than the third draft, but it also references Big Band in order to give some idea of what the Cantina Band sounds like.
 * Do rough drafts of the movie scripts even have a place in canon?  OLIOSTER  (talk) 11:46, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, but the link that Morrt provided in the article seems to identify the revised fourth draft as the finished script, so I guess it's... possible? Menkooroo 11:49, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think it is the final script. There are only minor differences from the film, some words in the dialogs. The non-dialog sections are trying to be in-Universe, one of the several exceptions is the Art Deco. I know that the mention of Art Deco is probably a kind of error, however, I consider this script having the same level of Canon as the movie novels - just a step beneath the films. Am I not right? Darth Morrt 14:24, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, C-3PO's appearances list is anything but complete... Menkooroo 11:42, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * I will try to make it complete. Someone has an ongoing C-3PO project, maybe his list is complete. Am I right that Art Deco appears only if we see a 3PO or Art Deco is directly mentioned? Or any novel appearances of any 3PO and of any similar-looking protocol droid are also appearances of Art Deco, like every app. of Mos Eisley are app. of Tatoo system? Darth Morrt 14:24, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

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Unidentified Duros family (Zhug brothers)

 * Nominated by: Tm_T(Talk) 14:27, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Article name contains magical word, "Zhug."

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