User talk:Cade Calrayn/Talk Archive 4

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Victory II talk page
All of the comments left on the talk page were due to edits that needed to be made to that article to bring it up to acceptable levels of quality and accuracy. I could have simply started a new section to go over all those new edits/old issues again, but that seemed silly when there were already sections on said talk page going over those areas of the article. Honestly, if those issues that were brought up on the talk page had actually been looked at and addressed back when they were first brought up instead of languishing as a mess until now, they wouldn't be "old" discussions getting responded to. So basically, fix things when they're brought up and you won't have things being "re-opened" as discussion years later. - Slagass (talk) 01:49, September 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think I'm just frankly amazed that information so wildly incorrect as what was on the VSDII article could end up staying on that page for years while conversations getting opened on talk pages gets reverted within minutes. When prioritizing policies, it seems like things like not restarting conversations should be a bit less important then providing information on this encyclopedia that's actually accurate. It's unfortunate that it doesn't seem actually work that way. - Slagass (talk) 02:04, September 2, 2012 (UTC)

Project Novels
By any chance would you be interested in joining the project. Just get back to me when you can if you interested in joining. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 22:50, September 2, 2012 (UTC)

Updates
Thanks for the update info Cade. I'll get to that and the others you gave me a while back asap. Sorry I haven't been able to; it's been a busy time of year. I'll let you know if I have any additional questions. Thanks again. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 20:01, September 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Took care of those updates; thanks Cade. I'm gonna take some time this weekend and work through those dialogue files too. I'm hoping to finish up the rest of the GGW battles over the next few months and then FA the war itself. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 08:03, September 6, 2012 (UTC)

Ashla in TOR?
Hi, Cade! I have currently nominated the article on Ashla, the moon of Tython, for the Good article status, however, I have no access to the Star Wars: The Old Republic game, therefore I was wondering whether you could possibly help me out and tell me if there is any mention of the moon in the game, or does Ashla (or possibly both of the Tython moons) appear in the game? Thank you in advance.  Imperators II (Talk) 08:38, September 6, 2012 (UTC)

Talk pages mess
Hey Cade, don't know if you noticed but while you were moving Rendaran-class assault shuttle and NR2 gully jumper to different articles, you must've forgot Rendaran's talk page which still directs to NR2's talk page, so it is quite a mess right now. You should inform the admins for help. Winterz (talk) 17:26, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

What the?
Dude I was just making a point. That doesnt mean that you should go and export BOTH of them. Plus the Yoda book is mentioned on StarWars.com.Opress100 (talk) 01:26, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

Linking
In regards to Col Serra, I was under the impression that general wiki policy was "one link per article per section". Sarkli is mentioned further down in the article, nowhere near where I linked it. Is that really policy? I'm legitimately asking. Cheesedude (talk) 03:30, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

Fanon
Ok you play Star wars knights of the old republic over 10 times and then tell me that's not true. Go to korriban, enter ajunta palls tomb, go and try to collect his sword, confront him, ask him questions, and then PLEASE TELL ME he doesn't tell you that he, Naga Sadaow, Tulak, and Marka "betrayed there jedi masters and fell to the dark side". THIS IS FACT not gibberish, so please stop deleting it. --Edak Trebmil (talk) 03:41, September 11, 2012 (UTC)Oldrepublicandclonewarsfan77

TOR Appearances sect
Cade, while I understand you're doing major additions in the Appearances sect, the TOR page is in constantly use by several different users and so remember to remove the "Inuse" Template right after you're done using it. Don't leave it there the entire day, otherwise you'll obviously have someone disrupting it. I for once, have some additions to make, so please don't leave that template there for almost 24h, just like you did when I removed it. Thanks in advance. Winterz (talk) 19:09, September 11, 2012 (UTC) There you go: And characters:
 * You didn't seem interested in removing the template so just letting you know that I'm going to add a few things in an hour or so. Winterz (talk) 00:51, September 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Rakata Energy Cube (a tech)
 * Blade Storm (a force power)
 * Crushing Darkness (")
 * Force bomb (")
 * Force exhaustion (")
 * Force sweep (")
 * Mind Maze (")
 * Hilt Strike (lightsaber combat)
 * Plasma Brand (")
 * Carbon Gallery (Belsavis)
 * Corellian Bastion (Corellia)
 * Tython Orbital Station (Tython)
 * Sand People Carving
 * Kanju's Disease
 * Battle aboard the Voidstar (Cold War)
 * B5-2T
 * Bryn (Captain)
 * Isen (Human)
 * ELX-25
 * Shellaster (Major)
 * Vinson
 * These lists come daily and I'd prefer the next being added by myself. It would be great if you could remove the template when you go to sleep so any other user could go on with their own additions without interfering with yours. Winterz (talk) 01:04, September 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Game mechanics? I'm not so sure about that. Look at KOTOR for instance, these two articles. But anyway it wasn't I who created those articles, though I will leave it for a few days in my lists regardless. If by then they're not considered game mechanics, I'll add them. Winterz (talk) 01:39, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

Kallig's scorching lightsaber
Hi Cade. I just saw that you removed the picture from Kallig's scorching lightsaber. While I can understand your reasoning, in case the player receives the double-bladed saber, it's not called "Kallig's scorching saber", but "Lord Kallig's Double-Bladed Lightsaber". So it's in fact a totally different saber altogether, not just two potential appearances for the same name. I think we should create articles for both potential sabers, with a warning in the header. (And I also think we should restore the image, since individual lightsabers looking identical are not unheard of&mdash;think of AOTC sabers, for example.) Cheers. --LelalMekha (talk) 16:08, September 13, 2012 (UTC)

BS
Where is your proof he's dead? Developers, Deshemopers. If 1 developer confirmed then it is likely to be a lie or a rumor going around like MULTIPLE rumors of how he will die. Seeing as your the only one who believes this, you might want to go chat with a Admin first before posting that on a Heavily used page. If you are 1000% sure and you have proof from either http://www.starwars.com/ or http://www.swtor.com/ THEN share that with the Admins and then post freely. Please don't troll and cheers --Edak Trebmil (talk) 22:07, September 13, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Rhen Var
Yeah, I just moved the page so that it goes off of the way it was presented in the comic. I'll move it though. As for the Jedi, if you look closely at the image, he doesn't appear to actually be holding a lightsaber. His hand is going through the green beam of light (whatever it is) but he doesn't appear to actually be holding it. Normally I would just assume it's an artistic issue, but given that their are other non-armor clad Republic combatants in that image, he could just as easily be one of them. Plus, we're missing Kiwiiks in that image, so maybe she's hiding behind that trooper holding the green beam? I dunno, but I'm not really comfortable proclaiming that guy to be a Jedi. I might alter the info box to "At least 4," though. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 20:55, September 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yup, she's on the previous page and on a lower panel. And I downloaded it a couple of months back; I'm just cropping the images out and uploading them. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 21:37, September 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes. There's even a caption that says it's her. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 21:40, September 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds right to me. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 23:00, September 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Did you want me to add that into the article? Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 23:00, September 20, 2012 (UTC)

Telos IV
Hi, I was wondering if a world was located in Separatist space, as many are shown on the Clone Wars map from the Atlas, then it would be automatically a member world of the CIS, as in the case of Telos IV?--71.80.172.90 04:48, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

Re: your ship
Yes it can. A nom can be passed with two ECs, or 1 EC and 3 others. Yours had that. 501st dogma ( talk ) 00:23, September 27, 2012 (UTC)

Dominator - BSX-5 Harrower?
I see you're doing some edits. Where's the source that they're one and the same? Thrackerzod (talk) 20:07, September 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * I thought the original was destroyed as part of Jadus' backstory. Is it said in-game to be the same ship? Thrackerzod (talk) 12:39, September 30, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Meteor
Thank you for the information. I just have one question: Can I use the information you gave me to source the events of the prologue or only events from Act I?-- Exiled Jedi   (Greetings)  23:31, September 29, 2012 (UTC)

First FAN for Warfare
Hey Cade. Fourth Battle of Kuat just passed as a FAN, and since you are the leader of project War, I was wondering if you could create the page for Warfare's FANs. Thanks, 501st  dogma ( talk ) 20:43, October 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! 501st  dogma ( talk ) 21:08, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Waterproof lightsaber
Hey Cade, just a heads up, since he as already once removed the csd you placed. You may want to explain to him why your putting it up for deletion. Just a thought. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 23:31, October 7, 2012 (UTC)

Potterwookiee
Strong objection to the removal of Potterwookiee: The Creature from My Closet from this wiki, please see talk page discussion. ProfessorTofty (talk) 19:18, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Encyclopedia!
Sweet! Thanks; mine's supposed to be in tomorrow too. Based on those pages alone, it looks like there's going to be quite a bit of good info in it. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 03:53, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Unidentified Havoc Squad Commander
Hey Cade, I noticed you added a main picture to the Unidentified Havoc Squad commander article. Do you happen to have a better picture (because that ones makes it look like he's doing some kind of acrobatic manuever eheh)? And do you have confirmation that the Armor is canonical? Nevermind, I noticed it was from the Encyclopedia. Winterz (talk) 13:23, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Deleted year articles
Hey Cade. When you get the chance, please make sure to remove the site's links to the year articles that you CSDed, specifically the various year templates. Thanks.  CC7567  (talk) 21:29, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

ROFL wrong date
Lmao thanks dude, I didn't even notice. For some reason 2 weeks was stuck in my head lol. Thanks again  —Tommy  9281  Saturday, October 13, 2012, 21:53 UTC 

The Destructors
The Destructors were indeed identified with Abeloth, not Dreypa's people. The Dark Jedi/Sith Lords were, I believe, actually the Otherside. Obsidian Grotesques were a form of artwork associated with the Destructors, and they were found on Abeloth's planet.--DarthKenny (talk) 01:04, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

Message

 * Warren Sedoru can be redeemed if he's spared by the Hero of Tython for light side option. I played the game before. Honest, I'm telling the truth.--12.71.5.221 18:15, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

Glom Tho
Hello, I have finally found the old RPG source about the battle of Glom Tho. In fact the timeline on wikia for the second battle is completely fanon. And the Imperial Remnant is not mentioned. The battle in the RPG book is the same than the one described in the Essential Atlas and Essential Guide to Warfare. There is only one battle. This is confirmed by the fact that both the RPG and the Essential Guide to Warfare place the battle in the Hevvrol sector campaign. I have merged all the informations here. Hk 47 (talk) 22:51, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

TOR Encyclopedia
I must say, Cade, that you sure got a bunch of appearances out of that book so thanks. Good thing I didn't plan to do it all myself. :P --  Riffsyphon  1024 08:25, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Addendum: I did however notice that some things, in fact many things that I had added to that list were since removed. Was this a factor of edit conflict? --  Riffsyphon  1024 08:31, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Ilum
Hey Cade, regarding Ilum, both the origina "The Setting" page, as well as the Encyclopedia, indicated that the Raid on Ilum occurred during the Great War. "The Setting" was much more explicit about it, as it actually included Ilum in a list of GGW flashpoints. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 17:08, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Also we need to talk about Balmorra. I see that you are splitting up the battle articles repeatedly, and this is something that I definitely would not agree with. The Occupation of Balmorra and Liberation of Balmorra are both parts of the decades-long Battle of Balmorra that began during the GGW. The TOR website and the Encyclopedia both make it clear that this battle never actually ended, it just went through different phases. At most, I would consider the articles you created to be component battles of the larger and longer Balmorra campaign, but separating them strikes me as arbitrary. Thoughts? Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 18:01, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Re: Ilum; the current "the Setting" page is just the trailers. The original page, under the site's original design, listed Ilum as one of the flashpoints. I'll try to find a cached version for you. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 18:04, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Here's the original Ilum dealy:
 * "With a massive fleet and an awe-inspiring army of fearless troops, the Sith Emperor launched a surprise assault, quickly capturing dozens of worlds in the Outer Rim, and sparking a war unlike any other in the galaxy’s history. From the frozen wastes of Ilum to the desert plains of Dathomir, violent battles killed untold millions. Despite its avowed neutrality, surface structures on the water-covered world of Manaan were completely destroyed, forcing the Selkath to retreat to their ocean underworld. Other star systems fared worse—some destroyed, others left uninhabitable. The carnage concluded with the Sith Empire sacking the Republic's capital planet of Coruscant and forcing the Republic Senate into the controversial Treaty of Coruscant."


 * And as for Balmorra, the Empire took control of the planet, but never fully claimed victory because the fighting continued. The Republic pulled out after the Treaty, but the native resistance continued fighting the battle. The Encyclopedia even says "the Balmorrans kept up the fight." They were later rejoined by the Republic in a new offensive, but it was all part of the same lengthy conflict. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 18:14, October 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * I was thinking about moving it to Battle of Balmorra (Great Wars), as it spans both "Great Wars". And thanks for the head's up on the CAs. :) Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 18:21, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * I noticed that in the Encyclopedia too. I'll look around to see if any other sources use "Galactic," but if not, then I suppose a move would be in order. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 18:35, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hold up before you make the move; Palpatine refers to it as the "Great Galactic War" in Book of Sith. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 00:23, October 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Luke refers to it as such in the book too. If I'm not mistaken, same goes for the mention of the war in Path of the Jedi. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 00:25, October 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * The official book description here also uses "Great Galactic War." I say we leave the article where it is for now. If it starts getting called "Great War" by novels and LFL officials on a more regular basis, we can revisit the possibility of a move. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 00:28, October 18, 2012 (UTC)

Smuggler's Vanguard
Hey Cade, one more thing. I noticed that you created the article for 3,677 BBY, and that you sourced Visz's attainment of the Crimson Fleece on that date to The Old Republic: Smuggler's Vanguard. However, I can't seem to find any dating information in the story itself. Can you point me towards it? Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 19:40, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Warship
I think those individual dreadnoughts should stay on the list since they represent an unknown class of warship. This matches the formatting and style of the Imperial, Confederate and Republic Navy pages. --Darthscott3457 (talk) 17:23, October 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * So then at a minimum the Tear of Taris and Lindworm should be on the list, just like all of the other one of a kind ships that are listed on their respective Navy (Imperial, Republic, Confederate) pages. Do you have a screen shot of the source on the BSX-5 info? I saw it during the game long ago, but I can’t remember mention anything about it being a Harrower, other than that’s what it looked like on screen later on in the game. Just going on other wiki articles now, the Javelin looks different from a normal Harrower and it’s a prototype, so that’s worthy of a mention on the list. As for the Voidstar does it ever mention that it is a Harrower in the game? The article says it’s a unique prototype battleship that matched the strength of the Star of Coruscant. To me if it wasn't specifically mentioned then assuming that all of these ships are simply modified Harrower’s is no different from me assuming that they are all their own class of warship. Maybe as a compromise there should be unidentified class list on that page? Not trying to be difficult just wanted to make sure no ships is left behind. Thanks.--Darthscott3457 (talk) 17:23, October 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * I put the Lindworm and the Tears of Taris back up, if its okay I would like to write up a little section on the Harrower page about all of the possible variants.--Darthscott3457 (talk) 23:52, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

One more thing
You should note that on page 171, under the "Kressh Legacy" section, the Sith Emperor is referred to as "Darth Vitiate." Now, given that this is the only time I've ever seen him referred to as such, I'm not sure if it's BTS information or an alternate style of address, but I wanted to bring it to your attention. Thoughts? Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 02:07, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

Ashla & Syo Bakarn
Hey Cade! Two things:

1. Could you possibly tell me whether the moon of Ashla is mentioned or appears anywhere in the Star Wars: The Old Republic Encyclopedia (it seems to me you have access to it)?

2. Is there any proof in the Old Republic game that Syo Bakarn was present at the Alderaan peace conference (i.e., is Syo Bakarn really the same individual as Syo)? It just seems odd, considering that Bakarn's article currently says he was stationed at the Jedi Temple during the Sacking of Coruscant. Thanks!  Imperators II (Talk) 08:35, October 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for helping me out!  Imperators II (Talk) 17:04, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

Meetra
Hi, I noticed you did this edit, but couldn't see any edit comment that would have explained it, could you add it to Surik's talkpage where that user did comment his edits beside providing edit comments? (: – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:&#126;$ 16:13, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Nox
Hey Cade,

Chalk it up to shoddy programming that shows lekku or montrals (Ashara) unrealistically through otherwise ubiquitous helms. And given Nox's status as Kallig's distant relative, I'd bet a whole lot that he's either human, Sith, or hybrid, since we know that only those species were allowed to hold such rank prior to the GGW. So yeah, the current image is canon, based on what we already know.  —Tommy  9281  Tuesday, October 23, 2012, 18:53 UTC 

Lassicar
I'm sorry, were you still working on Lassicar? Just wanted to explain myself to avoid any conflicts. I removed the tag because it hadn't been edited for nearly a month and half. Also Cade, as it isn't the first time I do that, you need to pay attention to it, sometimes you forget to remove those tags which will most likely prevent the article from receiving any improvement drive from another user during that period. Remember! Winterz (talk) 22:22, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Jedi Mickey
The character might not be canon, but we do write about non-canon characters e.g. from Infinities in-universe in the article's main body too. It being non-canon is indicated by the non-canon box at the top anyway.

Userpage
Hey Cade, I was wondering. On your userpage you have little boxes that store all your text and stuff and it looks really good. They are not userboxes. Do you think you could tell me how to do that?

You should be a admin, Wolf Screech (talk) 22:12, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Retcon Article
Hello, you recently undid a change I made to the retcon article labeling it "vandalism." If you see my entry on that article's talk page, you will see why the section I removed should be removed. Obi-wan stating that Luke was the last hope in no way necessiates that he not have known Luke and Leia were sisters. If you would like to debate this, please do so on the talk page, rather than labeling my change "vandalism." I have been coming to this site for many years, but this was the first statement that seemed erroneous enough for me to join up to discuss it.

Mantlefan89 (talk) 22:08, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

Ministry of/Imperial Intelligence
Hey Cade. I haven't got very far into the Encyclopedia yet but I was just looking at the RC and saw your move for the Ministry of Intelligence/Imperial Intelligence, with your summary as "Actually, the Encyclopedia says that ImpIntel is the largest group within the Ministry." So....if ImpIntel is within the MoI, shouldn't the article's name reflect the parent organization? Ie: 'Ministry of'?

Qualifier: it's only 9 in the damn morning and I've only got one coffee in me, so I may be reading you completely wrong lol &mdash; DigiFluid(Whine here) 14:00, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

Episode VII Talk page
I was adding to the talk page with the hopes that the info I provided could have been added to the article under the section called development or cast reaction or whatever. I was not meaning for it to sound like I was just popping in with some random news about the movie. Matt Seay (talk) 22:54, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

hello
i am writing a novel for my star wars Dietys--136.245.0.3 15:27, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

Annihilation
This is probably random, depending on the account used to log on to Amazon, I do not know. Anyway, s1146.beta.photobucket.com/user/Maximinus1/media/Iamyourfather.jpg.html, I posted the page here Maxattac (talk) 23:03, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Sith Emperor and Nihilus
I'm surprised that you had said that my note about the Sith Emperor and Darth Nihilus was speculatory and didn't belong in the article. After reading The Old Republic: Revan, it seemed like a really obvious question to ask (and I found it very strange that Meetra never compared the Sith Emperor to Nihilus). After all, it is striking that they both lived at the same time and have the ability to drain the life from an entire planet, which nobody else in all of Star Wars history ever was able to do. Heck, the comparison is even starting to turn up in fanfic. I assumed that others who read the book were naturally wondering if there was any connection and so explicitly stating there was no defined connection would be helpful to readers. I'm not speculating about a connection or lack thereof, just stating that there currently aren't any official answers to a question that readers undoubtedly have. -Thunderforge (talk) 03:36, November 10, 2012 (UTC)

Explain
If you are so sure that Baras wasn't on the Dark Council until late in the Cold Warm how do you explain this detailed picture of him a few decades before the war?--Seth danny (talk) 06:02, November 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thats not Baras. I think thats Darth Vowrawn. Darth Baras only became a council member after his master was killed.--Jet Twilights (talk) 07:36, November 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * No proof to back that up. Since other people already knew better than the authors and decided for everyone else that Vowrawn was just mentioned, it means that it's not Vowrawn. Wookieepedia logic. Deal with it.--Seth danny (talk) 13:55, November 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * I really don't want to make a forum out of Cade's page here, but the only proof we need to prove this is not Baras is by playing the Sith Warrior story! Do that, or watch a walkthough on Youtube, then come back and tell me were wrong in saying Baras didn't make council until the Cold War.--Jet Twilights (talk) 16:19, November 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * That isn't Vowrawn nor Baras. I saw it somewhere that it was actually a droid Sith Lord. Not sure if it was in the TOR Wiki or some place else. Winterz (talk) 00:41, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, in the actual SWTOR game itself, this character's garments correspond to a "Rakata Force Master" gear available to all lvl 50 Sith Inquisitors (check this link). --LelalMekha (talk) 00:47, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * I see. Thanks for clearing that up, Lelal.--Seth danny (talk) 21:32, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Movies
Hi, why did you change my edit of Episode VII? the reference sourse clearly states that the whole trilogy will see the end of the Skywalker family saga, as it stands the article gives the impression that only Ep VII will end the Skywalkers. --The Mercenary 73 (talk) 23:27, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

 The 2nd paragraph clearly states the Skywalker saga will come to a close in a new trilogy.--The Mercenary 73 (talk) 23:40, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

Then why is it used as a reference in that page?--The Mercenary 73 (talk) 23:50, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

Oops, my bad on Revan's approximate birth year!
You are right. I am thinking of the prologue, instead of part 1. Good catch, Cade Calrayn! :) --Obi-Wan Kenobody 01:08, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Sith Emperor's name
In TERC under the Main Characters section of The Old Republic: Revan, it calls the Sith Emperor "Emperor Vitiate". Would that be valid enough for a name change or no? DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 01:58, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Anons
I tried to update the page of Darth Charnus from some info from youtube and the wook page about the Battle of Corellia( written by you), you delete as fanon; I'm not yet play SWTOR so I'm little confused, he was on Corellia or no? and died there fighting or no? (93.39.218.30 16:07, November 13, 2012 (UTC)) Borin87
 * Yes, he was present, but it's entirely false speculation to say that he died there. Cade   Calrayn  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 16:09, November 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks, so maybe check the page of the battle of Corellia because he have a dagger near his name in the sith commanders list, this confused me. For the facial states I saw on youtube a look of his face, maybe check youself (93.39.218.30 16:19, November 13, 2012 (UTC)) Borin87
 * Thank you, I did not notice the dagger. I'll remove it. Cade   Calrayn  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 16:21, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Annihilation Ship Info

 * Don't know if you have read it yet but, is it okay to assume that the following ship associations can be made from SWTOR:Annihilation: Imperial Dreadnought = Harrower-class, D-class Attack cruiser = Valor-class cruiser, Terminus-class destroyer = C-class destroyer? I ask since its never explicitly said they are one in the same, unless I missed it in the novel. Since other types of Imperial Dreadnoughts exist I think there is a small chance they might not necessarily be Harrower's. Same thing with the mention of the Hammerheads, technically they could actual be Hammerhead-class cruiser and not a Thranta-class corvette like the Annihilation page currently assumes. A similar issue with the Aegis as well, since it is only said to be a capitol ship in the novel with no other description given, again unless I missed something. Just wanted to to know before I add in the various ship lengths given in the novel. Thanks.--Darthscott3457 (talk) 18:16, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * All fixed and updated, thanks a lot.--Darthscott3457 (talk) 23:03, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Project Meteor: TOR Encyclopedia request
Could you please check to see if there anything on this guy in the Star Wars: The Old Republic Encyclopedia? Thank you for your time.-- Exiled Jedi   (Greetings)  15:22, November 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * I thought it might mention it since it was at the start, thanks.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  17:59, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Petro
Petro has dark skin he is not pale--Darth Deon (talk) 21:49, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

SWTOR ingame message
Hey, so I was going through some of the game text files and came across this message that is sent to the character as an "email." However, I have no idea what the context is and at what level/planet this is initiated or what storyline this is from. I hoping you know. Here is the "message:"

Lieutenant Semphi Talen (Coruscant Security)

House Ulgo's accounts

''I've been investigating a break-in at the First Bank of Coruscant. We caught two individuals trying to crack a safety deposit box belonging to the Alderaanian noble house Ulgo. All Ulgo accounts at the First Bank have been frozen after pressure from Teral and Organa investors. These fellows said they were Ulgo cousins, trying to reclaim "valuable family heirlooms."''

''It turns out that the deposit box contained items smuggled from the Mid Rim; the Ulgos were probably planning to sell them on the black market and start raising more supporters. Between Alderaan seceding and the houses' Republic ties, this is a huge legal gray area, so the Senate's authorized us to place the deposit box in Jedi custody, until the succession's decided. I contacted the Council for suggestions and your name came up.''

Off the record: I'm glad these people aren't my headache.

If you could let me know either way, I'd appreciate it! Coruscantfan (Talk) 06:17, November 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. Do you know who may know the context? I'm planning on going through that storyline, but I'm not sure under what circumstances this message would be triggered to get sent so that may not help me any. YouTube was also NO help... lol Coruscantfan (Talk) 03:03, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

Wait, Despayre's destruction WASN'T after the First Battle of Tatooine?
Odd. The "A New Hope" section in The Essential Atlas made it seem from both the order and the summarization of its events that the destruction of Despayre occurred about the same time as, if not immediately after Leia was captured over Tatooine. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 03:31, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

Before the Republic era
Hey Cade. The Before the Republic publishing era began in the year 36,453 BBY. Years before that are not within it and still have to use our Pre-Republic era tags, which I've now updated to say "before the Before the Republic era" to avoid confusion. NaruHina Talk  22:38, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

Several things
Hello Cade, first of all just wanted to ask you what was the source of the New Empire's name? Also, it's great that you finally were able to solve that thing with the Imperial Guard who were supposedly bounded to the Sith Emperor and yet serving his enemy, Darth Malgus. Is this all mentioned in the False Emperor's flashpoint?
 * Second thing, I understand that you've mentioned already that you were taking several things from the conversations ?game file? Could you give me a location?
 * Thirdly, I just wanted to remind you how I hate this image and that I'm already in the lookout to get you a nice and fancy one with better and propper quality :p (hopefully before your FAN).
 * On one last matter, I wanted to ask you to continue with this conversation. Winterz (talk) 22:30, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

More fanon
Collin Osonoll is an official Grand Master

And 192,371,323 BBY is an official date

Collin Osonoll is officialy before Biel Ductavis

my user page
Thanks for undoing that edit I did. It was a accident. 174.111.248.121 22:46, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

CSD tagging
Hey Cade. When tagging pages for speedy deletion, please don't blank the page. The page should be left intact below the CSD tag so admins can tell why the page needs deleting, otherwise we have to dig into the history to ensure that it wasn't sneaky vandalism. Thanks. :) &mdash;MJ&mdash; Council Chambers 05:21, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Syned I
Hello, I saw your edit on the Syned I page. I don't have TOR so I just wanted to know if you're sure the game mentions Syned I and not the best known planet Syned. Thanks. Hk 47 (talk) 13:20, December 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry for intruding but here it goes. This is what says in the Crew Skill mission: "Every six hundred years, the stars align and an alien obelisk on Syned One reveals strange inscriptions. The time is now; send your companion to observe", so Cade's correct. Winterz (talk) 13:42, December 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok. Is there any description of this world? Indications whether it is a planet or a moon? Hk 47 (talk) 17:11, December 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * There's just that I wrote above, and unless you have something to refute the existence of Syned I, then it is correct ;). Winterz (talk) 17:24, December 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks. I suspect it is described as a moon in the its page just because people tought it was related with the plnaet Syned. Hk 47 (talk) 17:41, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

TOR updates
Hi Cade, I have just updated the Memit Nadill, Darth Sion and Telosian Jedi Academy articles for TOR, per the notes that you left a while back. When you have spare moment, would you mind having a look over the changes that I made to the articles, to check that they are consistent with the game? Thanks. --Jinzler (talk) 19:39, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Timeline
Heyo, Cade. Your timeline knowledge might be of use in this forum. Were you the one who figured that out or did you find some source for it during your project? NaruHina Talk  18:09, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

Deleting So-Called Fanon
Hello, I just added a Hutt named Karraga the Hutt, or Karraga the Unyieldy, and you just deleted it. Karraga was not Fanon, he is actually in the Old Republic Video Game if you didn't know. So if I put his name as one of the famous hutt members, then don't delete it. And the Nohn Veyaiko picture, I had found a picture of him but could not upload it, so the Neimoidian Aide file was the closest that looked like him that I could find on this wiki. KyranEllis (talk) 00:31, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

Regarding Toscan Fighter
It was stated on the "Starfighter" page that the Toscan fighter was used by the Empire, so it is not an unused souce. Unless the "Starfighter" page provides wrong information? DraculaCronqvist (talk) 03:03, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

In that case, the information should be removed from the Starfighter page, because it is listed without source. DraculaCronqvist (talk) 03:22, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

Categories
Hi there! Thanks for pointing it out, but I'm just about to finish Season 4, which means that I will finish my work on adding droids to Unidentified droid category, as for Season 5, there are still no minor character articles, and the previous seasons are done. So I hope that it's not a problem if I finish the few droids left, and after that, there won't be any problem, I hope. But I will mark them minor edits if you intend me to do so. Cheers --XXLVenom998 (talk) 16:19, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

SWTOR references
Hey, question: I know you've got several "paragraphs" that you use to reference the various time frames for SWTOR storylines and that you've changed/updated/shortened them at various times. Do you have a place where you've written them all down? I know you've corrected some, but I want to make sure I got all my GA/FA articles for SWTOR with the updated references for when they occured. If you could let me know, I'd appreciate it! Coruscantfan (Talk) 16:32, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

User
Excuse me! What is going on? I don't understand what I did wrong. For Praven and Sajar, these pages are added in Category:Redeemed Force-sensitives. So is Kira Carsen--198.22.122.175 17:26, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

Rans
So Rans was supreme commander before and after Stantorrs? DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 17:44, December 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ic just trying to keep the Supreme Commander template up to date. Do you know for sure what year he was succeeded by Stantorrs or was it just around 3,643 BBY? DarthRevan1173 RevanTOR001.jpg (Long live Lord Revan) 17:52, December 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Will add. Thanks for the help. DarthRevan1173 RevanTOR001.jpg (Long live Lord Revan) 17:56, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Query
How would I place that as a template, Cade?&mdash; 02:09, December 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help, Cade. Now I know for future reference, which will be useful for Revan.&mdash; 03:38, December 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Another question, which codex was Pers'lya mentioned in, and does it contain anything the article doesn't already have?&mdash; 23:29, December 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Appreciate that. Any chance I could get any codex info for Revan and/or Surik? Thanks for the help, btw.&mdash; 23:32, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

List of Phrases and Slang
Just wondering why you reversed my edits. I'm new here and if I missed something critical please tell me. I was planning to take out all the real world stuff from the main article and have another list of words that correspond to real world terms, or are references to other movies under Behind the scenes. -Serafina360 (talk) 02:34, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

User
Thanks for the message, but I've been playing the game and following everything. I'm not arguing on this and incase if I accidentally made a page that is fanon, I would try to fix it. I saw the characters with my own eyes and saw the list of names in the Star Wars: The Old Republic. Thank you!--99.56.52.40 01:23, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

Vol Argen is part of the Star Wars: The Old Republic video game. I saw him with my own eyes.--99.56.52.40 01:25, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, but you didn't give me a chance to find it. Please, if the character is in the list, that doesn't mean it has to be deleted. I did not put unverified info on that page. He was stationed on Balmorra.--99.56.52.40 01:29, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

I know that already and I just fixed it. Sometimes, we make mistakes, but in the Force, we can always fix it.--99.56.52.40 01:37, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, fine!--99.56.52.40 01:43, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

Yes sir!--99.56.52.40 00:11, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

SWTOR
Hey Cade, I'm about to start playing the game. Any suggestions?&mdash; 23:15, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
Hey, just wanted to wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Supreme Emperor (talk) 04:05, December 26, 2012 (UTC)