Talk:Luke Skywalker/Legends

New abilities worth noting (from LOFT Invincible)
just wanted to point out luke supposely knows the shatterpoint, and how to modify others force visions 75.74.81.83 19:02, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Luke's Death?
So how did luke die? It just says he became one with the force, has that been answered yet?
 * How he died hasn't been revealed yet. --Imperialles 20:16, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * What we know for sure is that he appeared as a Force ghost in the Legacy series of comics. So as an obvious consequence, he died beforehand. - TopAce (Talk) 15:44, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * What if it was a vision from him from like Tatooine!~ Meesa yoda 17:44, 20 August 2007 (UTC) ~
 * I don't own any of the comics, nor have I read anything about this era outside Wookiee. I guess there is a canon source that directly states that it is a Force ghost, not a simple vision. - TopAce (Talk) 12:52, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * You had to ruin my fun i no he died sob sobMeesa yoda 17:43, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

You know, he may not have died, in the conventional sense. Remember what happened with Obi-Wan? How do we know Luke didn't offer himself up to the Force in a similar manner? Only time (and the whims of Lucas) will tell the tale... Cybrarian 22:20, 18 March 2008

Wait...I may just be still in shock from what I read in the article, but did he seriously die in Inferno? My brain isn't processing it...Luke is immortal. Smuggler Freak 03:13, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Something tells me that he's not really dead. It would just be cruel to have JAINA kill Luke by accident. The writers won't let him go like that. I assume we're supposed to think he's dead for a little while, and BOOM he comes to save the day at the last moment. innkeeper 09:34, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, from what I've read on the Jacen Solo article, it appears he survived. But I haven't read the novel yet, so I can't confirm this. supergeeky1 [[Image:BobaFett.jpg|20px]] The Cantina 16:28, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * And I read the novel he didn't die. He faked his death to sabatoge the Anakin Solo.  Someone needs to fix it so people aren't thinking he died.
 * That's what I thought, that he would just "disappear" for a while. Thanks, I was scared for a while there.Smuggler Freak 22:05, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Just a grammatical suggestion :"Luke merged with the Force in a degree which seemed the Jedi Master, physically or as an individual personality, not present on the battlefield anymore." That's not a complete sentence. It needs another verb in it.

If Luke died in 137ABY then he was at least 156 years old because he was born in 19BBY are we sure this is the year he died?
 * 137 ABY isn't the year he died, it's the year when his Force ghost has first been seen. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 17:05, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * i remember in Inferno when Luke faked his death i was momentarrily dazed like omg i couldn't beleive LUKE SKYWALKER was going to die, then he came back and i was like all rightummm if u need a name find your favorite species ex:ewoks and pick a word from any of the movies ex:menace what do you get ewokmenace don't take it it's mineEwokmenace 22:55, 7 January 2008 (UTC)ewokmenace


 * Too bad they don't have the last servant of the Evil Empire Kir Kanos battle Luke Skywalker the loyal servant of the Force/Republic in a mutual duel-in which they are both kaput. Even if this comes about-say Star Wars # 7 Star Wars The Ultimate Duel between Good and Evil-there is always not the end for Soap Opera hero Luke Skywalker!!!


 * AFAIK there's no canon source yet that tells us how he died, but my personal feeling is that he would have learned the path to immortality (in the same fashion as Qui-Gon and Yoda and Obi-Wan and even Luke's own father.) Anyhow, this isn't the place for speculation, this is for discussing changes to the article. If we want to speculate further on Luke's death, I suggest we continue this somewhere on the forums or IRC. User:AHS0KA

Luke vs Gethzerion question
Under Luke's accomplishments, it lists the attack Gethzerion used against Luke as Force Lightning. I may be wrong- that's a high possibility, seeing as I don't have my copy of Courtship out with me right now- but IIRC, the attack was described differently from Force Lightning. Please correct me if I am indeed wrong. If not, should it not be changed? Dewback rancher 01:43, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I think you're right. I sounds more like some kind of heavy force punch (telekinesis): "She pointed a finger at Luke, and before Luke even recognized her evil intent, a ripple of Force slammed into him. White lights exploded behind his eyes, and the right side of his face felt as if it had been smashed by a hammer. [...]He felt the hammer blow to his left temple, [...] Luke realized distantly that Gethzerion's spell had ripped open blood vessels in his brain, [...]." The only Force Lightning I remember in the book was created by Ocheron. --Craven 02:09, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
 * So you agree it should be changed? Dewback rancher 13:01, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes. I changed the sentence, hope it's more accurate now. --Craven 19:03, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Lightsabers
Luke, in the Marvel comics, wields a lightsaber after losing his father's and before constructing his new one on Tattooine. The New Essential Chronology confirms that the Marvel events take place before the Shadows of the Empire events and the construction of his new lightsaber. It should be added in the behind the scenes section. I'm guessing another saber he found at Obi-Wan's. --Master Starkeiller 15:55, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * as i have said, ... i don't trust the comicsEwokmenace 22:56, 7 January 2008 (UTC)ewokmenace
 * Comics are usually unreliable as fact tellers.--UESPA 22:35, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


 * i think i should read some of the comics to get sort of a two idd point of veiw i still don't trust them though. I mean they've got these comic/ action figure packs i thought about getting some for the action figures and just now realized you get TWO and a comic book so i willEwokmenace 00:28, 29 January 2008 (UTC)ewokmenace
 * Mind if I but in here? Anyway, I trust the Dark Horse comics.  The old Marvel comics?  The ones where Vader was tinted slightly greenish and had red eyepieces?  The ones where everyone was wearing absurd 1960s Marvel color schemes (like green uniforms on all the Imperial officers and such)?  Yeah, those I wouldn't trust at all.  Cybrarian 05:38, 19 March 2008

There's a possibility, than, the lightsaber near the head of C3-PO(in his suposed "death") could be the one from Luke? Darth Eclipse User:Darth Eclipse 22:21, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Vader's Quest
This article doesn't mention the events that Luke went through in the "Vader's Quest" comic. Having read it in french, I can't take it upon me to add it... (And I think we should add it, but I don't know of it has been considered canon or non-canon...-- Galak Fyarr 17.57PM (Brussels)

Apprentices
Could a registered user please add Kiro to the list of Luke's apprentices? Though brief, and though the man did not become a Jedi Knight, the master-apprentice relationship did occur.
 * rnt u a registered user? <**> its ok Ewokmenace 22:58, 7 January 2008 (UTC)ewokmenace p.s. like any ones going to find out if u weren't
 * i also noticed it's missing more than that like Cray Mingla and Nichos and wasn't Raynar Thul (later known as Unu Thul)Luke's apprenticeEwokmenace 00:34, 29 January 2008 (UTC)ewokmenace
 * Kiro should be added, but not all Jedi trained at the Praxeum should be counted as Luke's apprentices, per say. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 00:37, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

The Luke vs Vader picture
I made some enhancements to the picture on the page. Since it is locked, how can I get it uploaded to replace it?
 * u see that is where i render useless honestly I HAVE NO IDEA <**> Ewokmenace 22:59, 7 January 2008 (UTC)ewokmenace
 * If you upload the image, and it is of good quality, contact any of these fine folks here to have it inserted. If the image itself is locked, contact me on my talk page. The upload file button is on one of the side toolbars; please follow all instructions. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 00:38, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

"ONE" of the most powerful Jedi ever?
According to George Lucas, Luke Skywalker was "THE" most powerful Jedi ever, even going as far as actually "ACHIEVING" the potential of The Chosen One. Why does this say "ONE" of the most powerful? Why not "THE" most powerful. Cannot deny the facts that even the creator os Star Wars himself says is true.. (71.224.69.248 02:07, 2 February 2008 (UTC))
 * I agree
 * Would you happen to have a source for that statement? Or anyone, for that matter? Jorrel[[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]]Fraajic  07:39, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * If someone can provide a source, then I agree fully.
 * I would say that according to all evidence I've seen, the Exile from Knights of the Old Republic II would be the most powerful Jedi ever. But I haven't read more than a handful of the NJO books or any of the comics, so I guess I can't say for certain. 69.111.74.200 23:33, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if this is real or not, but I found this after a Google search: (Quote from GL)
 * "If Anakin had never been injured and had remained on the light side, he would have become the most powerful Jedi ever. Even more powerful than Luke and Yoda combined. Anakin would have been many more times powerful as a Jedi as compared to being a Sith with no injuries."
 * And as Luke has the same potential as Anakin (should I find a reference for that? I'm not sure where I remember that from...) this should permit him being "the most powerful Jedi ever". Here's the link from where I found the quote: --Nex Terren 01:29, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Um, that's from SuperShadow. Anything from that website is as trustworthy as Richard Nixon.  I wouldn't use that as a source for anything.  Cybrarian 21:11, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, really? Didn't know. Sorry about that. --Nex Terren 02:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yar, he even has a page here at Wookiepedia: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mickey_Suttle. That guy is infamous for the fake "spoilers" and fraudulent reporting he does on his little website.  Tricksy as a Sith, that one is.  Treachery, his ally is.  Cybrarian 03:11, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I still think that it should be in the article.
 * I don't think any character, aka The Jedi Exile, should be more powerful than a character that the creator, GL, created. Thus I concur that Luke is "THE" most powerful Jedi. I also heard/read somewhere that he lived up to the potential that his father should have. Bantha Rawk 02:39, 11 Aug 2008 (UTC)
 * In my opinion Lukes just stupid, plain old stupid. It might help him if he had an actor that was at least mediocre. He completely messed up the "Luke, I am your father!" scene. So I think that he isn't even that good of a Jedi.Platinumplatypus 00:10, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Not relevant. Please recall that talk pages are about discussing the article, and not about expressing opinions on the topic. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 00:14, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You could simply put in, Luke was regarded as one of themost powerful jedi of all time, to make it simpler than all this fuss User:Wild Dog

Depictions of Luke
This is sort of speculative and I'm just gonna get yelled at, but should we really accept generic cover art as evidence of Luke's appearance throughout his life? He keeps looking progressively younger in many of the images... Many of the novels have generic cover art with no direct relation to the story that could have been commissioned and created at any time for any purpose. They are not necessarily chronologically accurate. 69.111.74.200 23:33, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Your right as i see him progress in his life he seems to keep hes young looking face from the movies, they should give Luke more older looking skin and hair, hes 50 right know.

Powers and Talents
Someone needs to add Luke's flying capabilities-he is a genuine Jedi Ace afterall. Also we need to add the Force Illusion he uses in Revelation when he creates a fake fleet to fool Darth Caedus (which is a Fallanasi level illusion).


 * Thanks

Updating Luke

 * The picture they have of luke is from Return of the Jedi.... Can't we post a more updated one, like from LotF or The one of him in the Dark Nest crisis? Mikey 20:19, 20 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Yea we should put like the Picture of him thats on the Inferno cover.--Darth Revanon 4:24, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Why? The image we have is a live-action, high-quality portrait shot of Luke. There is no policy requiring the main image to be from the latest appearance, either. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 20:31, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Source?
In the Luke's Origins section in the Behind the Scenes section, its says- [Star Wars: Episode V The Empire Strikes Back Director's Commentary] Is that supposed to be a source? Because it definitely does not make sense. Aqua Unasi 20:49, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Jedi Master
During his first duel with Palpatine (Dark Empire), Luke claims to be a Jedi Master, but in the article says he only became a master after the final death of Palpatine, so when did he really become a master? Grand Master Luke 22:52, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

New Main Image
Is it just me, or does this new image seem less than high-quality? The old image was fine and more recent than this new one from Episode IV. I'm not sure how to upload images, so can someone with the old image or an image of higher-quality than this one please change it back?Darth Anakin 14:49, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I took care of it; thanks for the heads-up. :-) BTW, you can change it back yourself by editing a previous version of the page under the "history" tab; it's called reverting. Cheers. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 15:08, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Sith as a master????
At the infobox,in the masters section Paplpantine is incuded but this is wrong.Luke never accepted darth sidius as his master.He must NOT be in the masters list.spartan-53 aka Darth odysseas 10:41, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Dark Empire disagrees. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 11:03, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Dark Empire may disagree, but let us not forget that the Movies trump all when it comes to canon status, and in the film luke rejects Palpatine and The Sith. Therefore it should be changed (I was going to point the same thing out myself, but spartan-53 aka Darth odysseas beat me to it.) User:AHS0KA

Green lightsaber in ep 4?
While Luke practices his lightsaber aboard the Falcon in ep 4, in the new dvd version, he has a green lightsber.


 * This is a coloring error that they didn't fix (for some reason) in the Special Edition or DVDs. - Milo Fett [Comlink] 22:24, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Coruscanti?
I'm not sure and I didn't want to change something on this big article, but does Luke really belong to Category:Coruscanti? I mean, Luke lived his first 19 years on Tatooine, and the way I've understood Category:Coruscanti, it's only for people native to Coruscant, isn't it? Kind regards,  Pranay Sobusk  ~  Talk to me  19:51, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Small Problem at The Page
There's a small problem in the end of the page, it seems like it's a link to a page that, actually, doesn't exist.Darth Eclipse 01:33, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Length of training with Yoda?
How long did Luke train on Dagobah with Yoda before Yoda died?

page problem
why does the page not mention anything after legacy of the force ect.Millenium Falcon,Fate Of The Jedi...?
 * First, please sign your posts. Second, it's because Millennium Falcon was released two days ago and Wookieepedia is not updated by tireless gremlins. It should have some information on it now. Third of all, Fate of the Jedi is not yet out. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 03:17, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Powers and abilities
In the section "Powers and abilities", it is stated that "Luke had the Force potential to become what his father was supposed to become—the Force potential of the Chosen One". I would like to know the source of that information, because I have never read ou heard such a thing. I suppose there exists such a citation, but, in case it is not so, I strongly suggest that the text be edited.
 * For starters, please sign your posts. The how-to is at the top of the page. As for your complaint, it's observation (or perhaps inference, I get those two confused). Maybe not suggested we keep the comment, but I'll leave the decision to others. // ~mikah~  19:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It's in a DVD commentary. At any rate, our Luke article is in a terrible state. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 19:46, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I find this issue somewhat controversial. Taking for grant that "If Anakin had never been injured and had remained on the light side, he would have become the most powerful Jedi ever. Even more powerful than Luke and Yoda combined. [...]", it clearly can't be true that "Luke had the Force potential to become what his father was supposed to become—the Force potential of the Chosen One". The former text tells that the Force potential of the Chosen One (that is, Anakin's potential), if totally fulfilled, would grant Anakin the power to outclass Yoda and Luke combined (symbolically, "full" Anakin > Yoda + Luke); the latter, that Luke had the same potential as Anakin ("full" Luke = "full" Anakin). So either one of the texts is wrong or we have to accept that Luke never achieved his full potential (is that true?). No way out. Actorres 11:34, 8 November 2008 (UTC)Adriano
 * What's the source on your quote? Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 18:44, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * "George Lucas has stated that Luke has the same Force potential as his father, which is why both Darth Vader and the Emperor were willing to turn on each other to gain Luke as their apprentice. Luke is said to represent Anakin's full potential, if Anakin had lived to achieve it rather than suffer the horrible fate that made him more machine than man. Lucas further measures that Luke's Force potential was twice as powerful as Emperor Palpatine." I couldn't find the first quote anywhere, but mine supports your second. // ~mikah~  20:00, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Padme
How much did Luke ever find out about his mother Padme. --User:Axx1000 23:19 January 3, 2008

Multiple Children?
As one point, a prophetess from Dathomir predicted that Luke would have multiple children. Thoughts?

Links
I've got a brief bio for Luke on my website; am I allowed to leave a link for it here? Thor2000 17:43, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid not, sorry. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 18:33, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Failure boxes
Are those big notices at the top of the article really needed? This article is fantastic, and those things push the actual content of the article so far down I have to scroll just to start reading the article. They should be reconsidered. Shawn ( talk ) 18:39, 12 February 2009 (UTC)