Talk:Star Wars: Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast

Hmm, why so many of those titles have the 'Star Wars:' before it? I mean, this is a Star Wars wiki, so that is already implied. IMO we should move those articles. So, for example, this one would become: 'Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast' instead of Star Wars: Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast'
 * It's better to follow official names. Contrast X-wing vs. Star Wars: X-wing MoffRebus 10:21, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Continuity
It should be noted that the plot of Jedi Outcast is somewhat contradictory to canon Star Wars. The story depicts Kyle Katarn taking assignments from Mon Mothma, despite the fact that by the time the Jedi Academy on Yavin 4 was firmly established, Mon Mothma was no longer Chief of State for the New Republic, but had in fact been replaced by Leia Organa Solo.
 * LucasArts. Enough said. - TopAce 19:27, 8 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Leia must have been replaced temporarily by Mon, due to business :) MoffRebus 20:10, 8 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Does it actually specify that Mon is Chief of State? I recall she has an office on Coruscant similar to Palpatine's in one of the cut-scenes, but that doesn't neccessarily imply she is the CoS. She may just have been the head of whatever sub-group Kyle and Jan were operating out of - Kwenn 11:41, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Walker Droids
Do we have a name for those walker droids fought on the Doomgiver? -- SFH 17:49, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * Anyone there? -- SFH 05:54, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Possibly AT-PT MoffRebus 10:20, 17 February 2006 (UTC) MoffRebus 10:03, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

The two droids
C3PO and R2D2 are said to appear in the game. I do rememeber a 3PO and R2 pair somewhere hidden, but nothing in their dialogue indicates they ARE those two. Anything that proves so? MoffRebus 10:03, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * If this is referring to the droids found in Cloud City on Bespin, prior to the fight with Tavion, they're not our beloved duo. For one thing, the protocol's voice doesn't sound like Threepio, and more importantly, you can destroy them both - Kwenn 11:39, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Aye. Corrected now MoffRebus 13:17, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I would imagine that the droids this was referring to would be the golden protocol droid which first greets Katarn upon his arrival at the Jedi Praxeum, and a particular blue and white astromech droid rolling around in the same general area (or possibly in the war room). While I can't confirm that they are in fact Artoo and Threepio (mostly because I'm typing this from memory at work), it seems to be implied. I'll double check and get back to you. SM-716 23:22, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, just checked: there are actually TWO golden protocol droids and TWO blue and white R2 units wandering around the Academy. They're never referred to by name, and the one protocol droid that talks doesn't even sound close to a Threepio impression. He refers to Luke as "Master Skywalker" instead of "Master Luke", he's only listed in the credits as "protocol droid"... in short, not much indicates they're the droids from the movies as opposed to random game NPCs. So nevermind. Still, I'm gonna change the way the article has their appearances worded under "Cameos" to something a little less vague. SM-71603:24, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
 * The protocol droid on Bespin DOES say "Thank the Maker"; is 'the Maker' a phrase exclusive to Threepio?A knight shall come 00:59, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Kejim --> Artus Prime
The article said that Jan was kidnapped on Kejim. This is obviously false, so I corrected it. --DarthMuffin 23:07, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Alzoc III
Why no mention of Alzoc III? The level you get when completing the main game. It's on the GameCube version at least.
 * It's been corrected. -Lord vader1414 04:25, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Choke blooper really NOT?
I don't think the Force Grip scene with Tavion under Trivia is really a blooper. It claims that the player shouldn't have Grip at that point in the game, but I know that Grip is available on the Bespin Platform level, and on the previous level too--though it is only Level 1 strength, and the ability to pick up and move enemies can't happen until Level 3. Maybe this should be changed?A knight shall come 00:59, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Lets just revise it, not modify it. We can say that it is inconsistent because of the level of choke he used, but it could have been explained by saying that because of Kyle's rage, he was able to summon a dark side power more easily. -Lord vader1414 13:55, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Lord vader's take is exactly the way I've always interpretted it, anyway. -BaronGrackle 14:09, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * That's what I was thinking too.A knight shall come 17:03, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, let's just do that. Sound good? -Lord vader1414 01:15, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I removed it. I've played the game and you do indeed learn choke by that time. 168.103.70.82 22:43, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * No it doesn't. I have played the game at least twice, and twice I noticed it. MoffRebus 00:14, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, and BTW, I am not the only one who has, or the blooper would have been removed long ago :) so maybe someone restores it until we come to a solution MoffRebus 01:59, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, the thing is that he DOES know Choke by that time, but he only knows the FIRST level of it. He has the ability to immobilize an enemy, but he cannot cause damage or (more significant to the point) move the enemy with the power. He does not learn how to do this by the time of the next level. That's why I support the "probably temporarily strengthened by rage" argument, since he had a basic understanding of Choke at the time... I wouldn't call it a blooper, but I can see how some would. -BaronGrackle 12:08, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Technically it is a blooper. Despite the fact that we can retcon an explanation :P MoffRebus 12:15, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Blooper, no. It was put in there on purpose. They had to find a way to show Kyle's true rage without him acctually killing Tavion. Put in that it was strenghtened by rage, and we should probably leave it like that for the time being. -Lord vader1414 19:23, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Mine monster?
Anybody know what those little bug things in the Artus Prime mine tunnels are called? Is there an article about them? If so, it should be added to this article's list of enemies. -- SM-716 talk? 17:34, 26 July 2006 (UTC)