Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations

 The featured articles of the wiki are articles that represent the best Wookieepedia has to offer. This is not a way to showcase the articles of your favorite characters, spaceships, or the like.


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So just what makes a featured article? Well, we've prepared a list just in case someone should ask that, and it is as follows.

An article must&hellip;


 * 1) &hellip;be well-written and detailed.
 * 2) &hellip;be unbiased, non-point of view.
 * 3) &hellip;be sourced with all available sources and appearances.
 * 4) &hellip;follow the Manual of Style, Layout Guide, and all other policies on Wookieepedia.
 * 5) &hellip;not be the object of any ongoing edit wars.
 * 6) &hellip;not be tagged with any sort of improvement tags (i.e. more sources, expand, etc).
 * 7) &hellip;have a proper lead that gives a good summary of the topic and can be used for the front page featured box.
 * 8) &hellip;have no more than 3 redlinks.
 * 9) &hellip;have significant information from all sources and appearances, especially a biography for character articles.
 * 10) &hellip;not have been previously featured on the Main Page. Otherwise, it can only be restored to featured status.
 * 11) &hellip;be completely referenced for all available material and sources. See Sourcing for more information.
 * 12) &hellip;have all quotes and images sourced.
 * 13) &hellip;provide at least one quote on the article; a leading quote at the beginning is required. Only one quote would be allowed at the beginning of each section at max, although quotes may be placed in the middle of the article.
 * 14) &hellip;include a "personality and traits" section on all character articles.
 * 15) &hellip;include a reasonable number of images of good quality if said images are available.
 * 16) &hellip;pass review by the Inquisitorius review panel.
 * 17) &hellip;counting the introduction and Behind the Scenes material, be at least 1000 words long (not including captions, quotes, or headers, etc).

For more information on what makes a featured article, see What is a featured article?

How to nominate:


 * 1) First, nominate an article you find is worthy of featured status, putting it at the bottom of the list below; see criteria above. Note that a previously featured article cannot be featured on the Main Page again; however, it can be restored to featured status.
 * 2) Others will object to the nomination if they disagree that the article is good enough; they will then supply reasons for doing so, and ways to improve the article (errors, style, organization, images, notability, sources).
 * 3) Supporters adjust the article until the objectors (with reasonable objections) are satisfied.
 * 4) The article is placed on the featured article list and added to the front page queue.
 * 5) Also, if, at least a week after the article's nomination, that article has 5 supports and no objections (or the objections have been stricken or overridden), it will be added to the queue, and will be officially known as a "featured article".

How to vote:


 * 1) Before doing anything, be sure to read the article completely, keeping a sharp eye out for mistakes.
 * 2) Afterwards, compare the article to the criteria listed above, and then either support or object the article's nomination.
 * 3) If you object, please supply concrete reasons for doing so, and how it can be improved. Please cite which rule your objection falls under! Failure to do so will result in your objection being considered invalid.
 * 4) As stated above, any objections will be looked upon by the nominator, supporters, and anyone willing to improve the article, and action will be taken to please the objectors.
 * 5) Once all objectors' complaints have been solved (or the article has 5 supports and no objections after at least a week), the article will be added to the queue and be officially known as a "featured article".

Also remember to add nominated at the top of the article you are nominating.

Every Sunday the next article in the queue will be highlighted on the Main Page as featured, marked with the featured template and removed from the list of nominations. The beginning of the article then appears on the Main Page via the featured article template. Nominees that are inactive for a month will be eliminated from the nominations list.

(5 Inqs/5 Users/10 total)
Support
 * 1) Darthchristian   ( Hey! ) 10:11, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Themelle444 18:22, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Kylekatarn 09:30, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Didn't find any problems.  —Xwing328 (Talk) 23:19, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Much better now. Creepy girl, though.  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 15:50, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) *She's goth. Can't you tell? Darthchristian   ( Hey! ) 19:21, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 7)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 03:06, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) Good enough. If this doesn't work, try for GA, it will. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 18:50, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) My-hyyyyy... Creeepy gir-hirrrrl... Won't you be my-he-hiiiine...  Gonk  ( Gonk! ) 17:13, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) Jedi Master Fiolli 16:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 23:31, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * It's an easy fix, but POVity POV POV POV. .  .  .  .  21:07, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Where?-- Darthchristian  ( Hey! ) 22:21, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * "Overconfident", "Deadly", "Swift", "Devious"... .  .  .  .  22:32, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I was able to address the ones you listed above, except for overconfidence. From both sides, it was clearly obvious that she was overconfident. I made it sound more neutral, and it was the best I could do. -- Darthchristian  ( Hey! ) 3:34, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Mmkay, I've made some changes, but the prose is in need of a lot of work. A lot of sharp, short sentences that don't flow well. .  .  .  .  03:59, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks better now. I'll work on the sentences.-- Darthchristian  ( Hey! ) 4:11, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The sentences are longer and I made sure they flowed better. Is it better now?-- Darthchristian  ( Hey! ) 4:36, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Enough for me to strike my opposition. .  .  .  .  00:56, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Remove the bullets in the BtS, thanks. QuentinGeorge 08:41, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed.-- Darthchristian  ( Hey! ) 15:12, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Present tense needs corrected. Atarumaster88  21:20, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Darthchristian   ( Hey! ) 22:40, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Get rid of the ref tags in the intro. The source given for "Originally an Empire Youth under Lord Hethrir" is Jedi Outcast which I'm pretty sure is wrong. Speculating about her being from Dathomir in BTS is fine, but I'd like to see it removed from the infobox. Green Tentacle (Talk) 09:46, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed --Eyrezer 09:52, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Can somebody check the source for the first paragraph of cult leader? I can find no mention of any of it in Dark Forces Saga 6. Green Tentacle (Talk) 11:53, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm checking in Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy to help on this. Jedi Master Fiolli 16:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I've changed the source; the entire paragraph is from JA. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 01:00, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Eyebrow-raising prose issues. An abundance of short choppy sentences. "Tavion this. Tavion that. Tavion with three bags full." "threw it at the ceiling and brought the weakened ceiling down..." Sorry, this just isn't good enough. Thefourdotelipsis 00:03, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * Needs a general copyedit. Atarumaster88  21:21, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * REQUEST: This nom is inactive and should be removed by the Inquisitorius. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 18:32, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Eyrezer just made it active again by fixing one of the objections...  - breathesgelatin Talk 22:38, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

(3 Inqs/14 Users/19 total)
Support
 * 1) Darthchristian   ( Hey! ) 17:49, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Jango Fett107 16:56, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Yeah, I can see it Enochf 23:07, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) (In Tem's accent) Looks good to me. Adamwankenobi 03:35, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) yeah man! General Mandofett  Wrist Holoprojector[[Image:Mandoinsignia.png|20px]] 11:53, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Good to see a major character nom.  Atarumaster88  21:49, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Good article! DARTH SIDIOUS2 18:34, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 8)  Stake black   msg 16:53, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) DWolf2k2 16:38, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) (nods)  Thefourdotelipsis 23:41, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) Humbone 13:43, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) It's got my vote. Ccneyo 02:33, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 13)   Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 14:31, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) Peter5158 21:08, 10 June 2007 (UTC) he has my vote cause he's cool
 * 15) *Shouldn't this be overruled? Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 06:47, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) Always good to have a Mando get the recognition he deserves Ryan Fett 4:18, 26 June 2007
 * 17)   Gonk  ( Gonk! ) 00:08, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) Looks good to me  &pi;=3 [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] (Click Here To Talk) 13:37, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 19)   Greyman ( Paratus ) 00:35, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) Now that Rozatta is finally mentioned before her death occurs.  Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 20:04, 10 July 2007 (UTC) Overall, it's a good article, but if it's missing information, I have to strike my support until that info is added. I'll be happy to vote for it after that.  Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 23:34, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 21)  Jaina Solo ( Talk ) [[Image:Jainasolosig.gif |25px]] 17:27, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 22) Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 03:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 23) It's time yousah got together and nominated a bombad ahticle like dis, Buss Nass. Seriously. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 18:53, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 24) It'll do it's job well. I guarantee it.--CT-5619 helmet comlink 01:25, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 25) Awsome article!Thire 4477 04:32, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 26) Gotta Love a Fett Dark Lord Xander 06:57, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Well, that's basically my critique at this late hour. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 06:23, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Jediknight19bby 21:56, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Unsourced quote. Green Tentacle (Talk) 21:35, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed. -- Darthchristian  ( Hey! ) 12:13, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Quotes in prose, and a few unsourced statements in the BtS, but otherwise, fine. .  .  .  .  22:49, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed. --Jango Fett107 14:54, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Severely lacking in detail to the point where, unless you've read the sources, it's almost impossible to understand what actually happened. Havac 19:11, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I want more sources for the "Weapons" section. -- Imp http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/e/e5/ATATatarismall.png 06:40, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed. -- Darthchristian  ( Hey! ) 14:14, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Breaks Rule 9; I recall that Jango appears in some Tales stories and those aren't mentioned in the article. Atarumaster88  01:51, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Which ones? -- Darthchristian  ( Hey! ) 18:36, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I know for sure there's a story in volume 6 and a non-canon in vol. 5. Atarumaster88  20:43, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Fett Club is the non-canon. Atarumaster88 16:49, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Jango Fett107 18:04, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * There's nothing on the Star Wars Adventures Books, and if there is, it's not cited Rules 3 & 9. Cull Tremayne 03:16, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed. --Jango Fett107 18:04, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * .In the introduction, the fact that Jango destroyed the Death Watch could be mentioned. It jumps straight from the Mandalorian Civil War to Jango's bounty hunting days, without even mentioning his prison time or the Death Watch's destruction.
 * Fixed. Darthchristian   ( Hey! ) 13:05, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Rozatta is never mentioned at all in the article before it jumps straight to her death. She, and her affiliation with Jango, need to be mentioned before her death.
 * Okay, there's some mention now. Could be more detailed, but I can't be too picky, I suppose. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 20:04, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Mention the fact that the Infant of Shaa was created on Seylott, so it can be understood why Jango returned it there for safekeeping. Otherwise, it just seems to be a random location.
 * Fixed it. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 15:55, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * In the non-canon information from Tales 1-20, it is not clear whether Boba or Jango killed Larbo.
 * Not really necessary, just me being picky. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 04:30, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ataru has addressed this. -- Jango Fett107 (Comlink) [[Image:Mandoinsignia.png|20px]] 15:26, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I haven't read The Warlords of Balmorra, but if possible, a little information about how Jango and Aurra Sing captured the three bounties should be added.
 * Not all that necessary either, but it would be better with a bit of detail. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 04:30, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * There is no proof that Mace Windu used the force to move silently to sneak up on Jango and Dooku; if there is, source it.
 * I just deleted the line. I couldn't find the source for it anywhere. Darthchristian   ( Hey! ) 13:06, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Possibly move the Darth Traya quote above the paragraph describing Jango's death. That's just a suggestion, since I think it would look better.
 * Done. Darthchristian   ( Hey! ) 13:07, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Possibly add an image of Jaster's Legacy.
 * Can't. There isn't any room for it.  Darthchristian   ( Hey! ) 13:08, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, that doesn't really matter. Just an idea. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 17:32, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * Rather sketchy coverage from Bounty Hunter; could definitely be fleshed out more.
 * Is this okay? -- Jango Fett107 (Comlink) [[Image:Mandoinsignia.png|20px]] 03:15, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It's better, but it still doesn't provide reasoning or detailed explanations of the events. Yes, I realize it's from a video game, but it's very choppy. I'll give you an example of the prose as of when I see it, and then I'll provide an example of what I'd like to see (or something similar) throughout the whole section. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 18:44, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Current revision
 * Fett’s journey began on Coruscant, where there were rumors that the Bando Gora was behind some strange deathstick shipments. Jango pursued a low-life deathstick dealer, Jervis Gloom, throughout the entertainment district, and forced him to reveal who he was working for. This led Jango to a nerf processing plant, in search of its owner, Groff Haug.
 * Something I would like more
 * Fett began his search for the deranged Bando Gora in Coruscant's entertainment district after learning that the Bando Gora were behind some strange deathstick shipments. Jango pursued a low-life deathstick dealer, Jervis Gloom, through the entertainment district, taking down any of his associates who tried to stop him. Once Jango caught up with Gloom, he forced him to reveal the name of his employer so the bounty hunter could work his way up through the dealing network back to the secretive Bando Gora. The information that Fett obtained from Gloom led him to a nerf processing plant in search of its owner, Groff Haug, who Gloom told him was connected to the Bando Gora. Again Fett battled through guards and mercenaries in the plant while evading the hazards of the large industrial environment, only to find that Montross, who was also hunting Vosa, had already reached Haug first and killed him in a carbon freezer. . . Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 18:44, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Needs information from the first young adult Boba Fett novel. (Fight to Survive)
 * It was already there, but, addressed. -- Jango Fett107 (Comlink) [[Image:Mandoinsignia.png|20px]] 16:08, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I seem to recall Jango doing a bit more in the book. His parenting of Boba was fleshed out in more detail, as was his legacy. Actually, the whole article could benefit from a Legacy section, added in after his death, and it should reflect how his code and contacts helped Boba survive. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 18:44, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ships section needs some expansion.
 * Referencing errors- blank fields appear in scrollbox at the bottom.
 * Fixed -- Jango Fett107 (Comlink) [[Image:Mandoinsignia.png|20px]] 03:15, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * No information from Jedi starfighter.
 * No mention of non-canon info from Tag and Bink.
 * No information from Full of Suprises
 * Relationships section? I mean, this guy barely had any romance, but Sheeka Tull deserves a mention.
 * No informaation from the first one or two levels of Bounty Hunter (i.e. stopping that animal fight, losing his jetpack, etc.)
 * Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:12, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I too am concerned with the lack of information in key areas. Thefourdotelipsis 00:37, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * Striked my objection, but I still agree with Havac. The level of detail is so low, that if I had never seen or read the books, my perception of the character would be severely lacking. Cull Tremayne 06:18, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * As Cull says, the detail could use quite a bit of work. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 04:33, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Overall, it now looks fixed up enough to be a FA, but I really do think the Rozatta thing has to be fixed, otherwise it throws a huge wrench in the flow of the article. I'll vote for it once that's fixed. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 04:30, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I've struck my support for the time being, since there are now some major points which need to be addressed. Once they've been addressed and reviewed, I have no problem re-adding my support. Cheers, Greyman ( Paratus ) 00:31, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Per Greyman. An article missing info shouldn't be a FA. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 23:34, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

(6 Inqs/16 Users/22 total)
Support Oppose
 * 1) QuentinGeorge 11:17, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Kuralyov 13:47, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  StarNeptune Talk to me! 16:04, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 21:57, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) JMAS 22:16, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 6)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 01:17, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Adamwankenobi 23:57, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) Yeah.-Darthtyler
 * 9)  Jaina Solo ( Talk ) [[Image:Jainasolosig.gif |25px]] 14:22, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) great article AdmirableAckbar 14:37, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) -- Eyrezer 06:21, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 18:10, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 13) Graestan 17:36, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) Green Tentacle (Talk) 21:33, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 15) Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 03:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) Why not? [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 18:55, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 17) SingAurraSing 23:03, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) Teemto 20:39, 29 July 2007
 * 19) Good Artical  Dark Lord Xander  ( Embrace The Dark Side! )[[Image:MandalorianSymbol.jpg|20px]] 06:42, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) Thefourdotelipsis 01:25, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 21)  Victor  ( talk ) 00:14, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 1)  Victor  ( talk ) 00:14, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Expand intro, section the Clone Wars...section, and I cock my eyebrow, sah, at the sectioning of the BtS. Thefourdotelipsis 11:33, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Intro and sectioning done. Can't see what's wrong the BtS. It looks crap as a bullet or one massive chunky paragraph. QuentinGeorge 11:44, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Ditch the portrayal subsection. And expand...something. Note that he's the only EU -based character to be in Clone Wars. Previously established. You know what I mean. Thefourdotelipsis 12:09, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Aayla was in the Clone Wars as well. But done, anyway. QuentinGeorge 12:10, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Too cursory in its coverage. It could use a lot of fleshing out. Also, we know that there will be a flood of information on K'Kruhk between now and its actually being featured, so it might be best to hold off anyway. Havac 18:05, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Tell me where it needs to be expanded, and I'll expand it. The fact he is going to make more appearances isn't an objection as we featured Darth Bane shortly before the release of Path of Destruction. QuentinGeorge 21:04, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Havac, look at the queue. Even approving this today would mean, at earliest, it doesn't appear on the front page until April 2008. Plenty of time for his Legacy and Dark Times appearances to be fully integrated in before he shows up on the front page. QuentinGeorge 21:28, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, I'm not objecting on those grounds. Just suggesting that holding off a bit could improve it. But anway, all the Republic stuff, bar Seleucamai, reads like a very breezy overview -- he went here and fought there and this person died, but there's no feel of what happened. Take, for example, the Vos/Viento thing. It says he was assigned to protect Viento, Vos assassinated Viento, he got hurt. It's lacking in substance. Mention the fact that Vos sneaked past him at night. Mention that he caught Quin just too late. Mention that they went over the balcony in the fight and K'Kruhk bounced off an airspeeder and was lucky to survive. As is, it covers everything, but not to the comprehensive level expected of a featured article. Also, looking again, it could use a powers and talents section -- his healing skill could be mentioned there. And I'm also objecting on grounds of image quality now -- putting the Clone Wars crap as his main pic over one of Jan's far more realistic and detailed drawings is a clear mistake. If you want a headshot, find a Jan headshot or crop a Jan full-body shot down. Havac 21:44, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I disagree that his animated depiction is "crap", but will replace with a comic headshot if that is what people want. I was mainly trying to put a bit of variety in, since I'd used all comic depictions in the biography. QuentinGeorge 21:54, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * As I side note, some of the detail requirements for these bios seem faintly ridiculous in that we have to chronicle every single step someone takes but, if those are the rules, then those are the rules and I will comply. QuentinGeorge 21:54, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The image from the cartoon doesn't do the article much good. It should be replaced with a shot from one of the comics (perhaps the Dark Times one?). &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 21:57, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Jack, I've already said I'm going to replace the image and your antics on the Muun page don't exactly inspire confidence in your ability to spot a good one. QuentinGeorge 22:11, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Additionally, I'd rather you didn't do a "cleanup" of the article when I'm trying to expand the damn thing. 22:14, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Why are you lashing out at me? I give my opinion on the main image and then try to clean up the article, and then you scold me as if I did something wrong. What's your problem? &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 22:16, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

'''Objection overridden by Inquisitorius - Inq/K'Kruhk 05:12, 1 June 2007 (UTC) '''Objection overridden by Inquisitorius - Inq/K'Kruhk 05:12, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Karohalva I oppose this article on the grounds that using a Clone Wars Cartoon picture in the info-box is a crime against Star Wars. It sounds silly, yes, but it is true.
 * Please read what I have written above. I am going to replace it, as soon as I find a suitable headshot. QuentinGeorge 22:03, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Oops. Sorry then. What say you just crop a full-body shot? That should be Wookieepedian-legal. Karohalva
 * I have to agree with Jack about the CW image for the infobox. I don't think it's crap, but I don't think it's the kind of image we want for an infobox unless there is no other option, such as with the Voolvif Monn and Foul Moudama articles. I went ahead and cropped the Siege of Saleucami image to just his headshot and put that up in the infobox. Does that meet everyone's approval? - JMAS 22:22, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Eh, I said it's "crap" because a) I don't like the CW animation style and b) it's far less detailed and realistic than the comics pictures. It certainly deserves to be in the article, but it's not nearly a good enough depiction to be his main shot when better alternatives exist. It would be like using this as the infobox shot for Jerec. Or basically, what JMAS just edit-conflicted with me to say. Havac 22:25, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I think this new image is much better. And Quentin, don't lash out at me again. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 22:26, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, please. Don't be so melodramatic. 22:28, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, I don't really mind what image is used, and I'm happy to go with that one. I'm at work now, so I'll do a "Talents and Powers" section when I get home. If anyone else has more they'd like added, please tell me. In terms of images, I think its probably ok how it is now. Less is more. QuentinGeorge 22:28, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Melodramatic? I'm not the one who lashed out at another user just because they suggested a new main image and tried to clean up an article. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 22:32, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * This page is not designed for user arguments. Cool it please. Atarumaster88  00:37, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Back on topic, I have (once again) cleaned up the article. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 00:42, 11 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I've significantly changed the article, added more, added a abilities section, etc. Any more objections? 07:33, 11 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Can people please strike objections that have been satisfied? Please? - QuentinGeorge 03:19, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * K'Kruhk remembered this and used the concept to help the Jedi evade pursuing Yinchorri starfighters. Can this be expanded? How did K'Kruhk do this?
 * found himself fighting for his life on Yibikkoror. Were they ambushed or what?
 * After their escape. How did they escape?
 * It was in this mission that his Master was killed, battling for her life on Yinchorr. More detail please. --Eyrezer 05:23, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Addressed. QuentinGeorge 05:57, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Can we get some more info on the mission to Teyr. Why were the losses so high? K'Kruhk's fault? outnumbered? Or is it only mentioned in passing?
 * Only mentioned in one comic frame, yet I've expanded it to the best of my ability. QuentinGeorge 10:14, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Nice extrapolation. --Eyrezer 23:45, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The last point I have, can the paragraph introducing the purge survival be made to flow more from the previous paragraph? --Eyrezer 03:27, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
 * How's that? QuentinGeorge 10:14, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Resolved --Eyrezer 06:21, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Nasty little [source?] tag in the powers and abilities section needs to go. Green Tentacle (Talk) 10:33, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Solid article, overall. Fix that unsourced statement in Powers section and I'd be glad to give my support. &mdash;Mir  len 

Comments Other than that, however, the article looks great. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 18:10, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Aware that it may be short. Would be willing to listen to expansion suggestions. QuentinGeorge 11:17, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Here are a couple suggestions that might be good. But overall, great article.
 * More on Giiett's "trick," and what caused K'Kruhk to remember it. - Taken care of
 * Name the other Jedi who finished K'Kruhk's training, if possible. If he or she's identity is never revealed, than ignore this. He's never named, we only know him because of the specific comment "my first master, implying a second one. QuentinGeorge 09:26, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Mention that Tholme did not, in fact die. It makes no sense for Aalya Secura to remember him as one of those who died, and then for him to assist the Republic's victory. - Taken care of
 * One unsourced statement in Powers and Traits. - Taken care of. QuentinGeorge 09:26, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Right, gimme a bit to address those. Might take a while, since I've been a bit lazy with RL lately. QuentinGeorge 05:30, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, I've taken care of all of that except for the dang whiphid hibernation thing. Now, can anyone find me Randy Stradley's original post? I can find many referencing it, but not the original. QuentinGeorge 21:04, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Sourced that last thing about the hibernation trance Anything else, people? QuentinGeorge 21:18, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Hobbes is on holiday, so I struck the objections I've covered. QuentinGeorge 09:26, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Mostly Havac's request for expansion in some areas, Quentin. That's the only outstanding objection. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:55, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

(1 Inqs/4 Users/5 total)
Support


 * 1) Jediknight19bby 00:24, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) --Darthtyler (talk) (HSM RKY) 00:47, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Unit 8311 07:17, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) --The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari 10:55, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Thefourdotelipsis 01:38, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * Rule 2: POV ("did a fine job"), Rule 1: Not well-written (needs cleanup- "emporor", "thusly" etc.), Rule 7: Needs longer intro, Rule 4: Remove sourcing from intro per Sourcing, Rule 11: Source article completely, especially part about 17 BBY, Rule 1 and 9: Not very detailed. This could easily be longer- no info on shield generator on the mooon and only a small paragraph on the Battle of Endor section. It could easily be longer and more detailed. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 13:34, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I added to the intro, I think it's at a pretty good length now. &pi; = 3  [[Image:Oldsith.png|40px]] (Talk to me, babe.) 18:58, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Definitely needs a longer intro, which should probably mention the IG-88 sillyness. -- Ozzel 01:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Intro should be longer. Battle of Endor section and how the Death Star II related to the GCW should be expanded. Chack Jadson 01:13, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Source it properly, particularly the "Acquiring the Death Star II plans" section and the "Complement" part of the infobox. There's no mention of any of the relevant stuff from TIE Fighter, such as the Rebels almost being warned that it was a trap. Some of the conflicting sources on getting the plans should be addressed in BTS. Green Tentacle (Talk) 09:20, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * How could you want it detailed more? Some parts are almost too detailed. The longer intro and removing the sourcing from the intro is complete. I'll work on sourcing it soon. Jediknight19bby 14:47, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You must not have seen some of my pet Featured Article projects. Only 1320 actual words of prose for such a major topic is severely lacking. I like detail. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 15:12, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

(1 Inqs/1 Users/2 total)
Support
 * 1) Bringbacknom!   20:08 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Thefourdotelipsis 01:52, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * Could use some expansion, and there are way too many quotes. Better sectioning is also needed. Darthchristian   ( Hey! ) 13:17, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The number of quotes is simply insane. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 19:46, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Per Darthchristian. Chack Jadson 19:52, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It also needs and Personality and Traits section. Darthchristian   ( Hey! ) 16:51, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * From the desk of Ataru
 * Intro: Favour-->favor
 * Intro, Para 1, Line 3, reword sentence about "for the failure of . . . "- doesn't read well
 * Intro, comma after However
 * Intro, Para 2: Faith in what?
 * Intro: Remove speculation about Qorealists
 * Intro: Add a comma after Thus or remove it.
 * Sectioning looks bad. Why is there a single subsection under each section?
 * 1.1: Reword: "It appears that Harrar . . ."- sounds OOU.
 * 1.1: Fix comma errors surrounding "However"
 * 1.2: Given command, not commands
 * 1.2: Reword "And it was there" to "where". Conciseness should be prized.
 * 1.2.1, comma after Falcon
 * 1.2.1, remove comma after dismally
 * 1.3, worshiped should be worshipped
 * 1.3, Para 2, Line 3, add comma after and
 * 1.3.1: Reword to "enough time to recover from the loss of Coruscant" or "enough time to recuperate" or similar
 * 1.3.1, Para 1, line 4, Remove comma after "and"
 * 1.3.1: Jumps from Borleias to Coruscant without explanation. Expand.
 * 1.4: Revealed is mispelled.
 * 1.4: Weasel words on Qorealist part
 * 1.4: comma after "At first"
 * 1.4, Para 1, add comma after However
 * 1.4, Para 3, remove commma after and
 * 1.4: Remove first "her" in "asked her of her discoveries"
 * 1.5: remove "had in fact"; doesn't read well
 * 1.5: reword to say "Harrar stated that learning of the possible connection between the ancient Yuuzhan Vong homeworld and Zonoma Sekot had shattered . . . "
 * 1.5: reword first sentence of 2nd Paragraph
 * 1.5, 2nd Para, add comma after There
 * 1.5.1: learnt-->learned
 * 1.5.1: decapitalize liberation
 * 1.5.1: "for they were the only way to save his people" is POV
 * Too many quotes
 * No P&T
 * I'm a bit rusty on NJO, but I'm sure he had a bigger role than this. Needs expansion.
 * Traitor is not listed under appearances.
 * No info from Enemy Lines I.
 * P&T not sourced yet.
 * Have a nice day.&mdash; Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 20:49, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Comments


 * 1) He's not in Enemy Lines I - that appears to have been an erroneous appearance. That's everything about Harrar there as far as I know. P&T sourced, no redlinks, referencing. If anyone could help with pictures that'd be nice. Harrar  16:21, 14 August 2007 (GMT)

Remove Nom (Inq only)
 * 1)   Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 19:04, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Doesn't look like it's going anywhere. Green Tentacle (Talk) 13:38, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 19:30, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

(9 Inqs/8 Users/17 total)
Support
 * 1)  - breathesgelatin Talk 00:03, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 2)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 04:48, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Jediknight19bby 14:17, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Mir  len  16:28, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Great article. Darthchristian   ( Hey! ) 18:13, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Chack Jadson 00:03, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) (copied from old Inq page) It's just now getting nommed?  —Xwing328(Talk) 18:24, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) Ozzel 04:38, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) Wonderful article. Jedi Master Fiolli 15:02, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) --Goodwood 23:16, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 03:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 12)  Jaina Solo ( Talk ) [[Image:Jainasolosig.gif |25px]] 11:28, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 13)  Gonk  ( Gonk! ) 20:53, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) Green Tentacle (Talk) 22:00, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 15) --Eyrezer 02:07, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 23:33, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 17) Thefourdotelipsis 02:43, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * I'd like just a bit more detail from X-wing: Mandatory Retirement. IIRC, Winter doesn't just help plan the assault and extraction- she participates in it. I could be wrong, though. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 13:33, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll talk to Xwing328 about this. First, I don't have that comic (I'm waiting for Omnibus 3 to arrive, which it hasn't yet, from Amazon), and second, I'm in France and away from my comics. I'll contact Xwing because he wrote the original text and see if he's willing to help out.  - breathesgelatin Talk 11:32, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey! I just responded and will try to help out tonight, but I don't know how much more time I will have. *EDIT* That is, unless Ataru already did what he wanted. —Xwing328 (Talk) 03:34, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I took care of it. ;-) I figure that since I had the comics, I'd just go ahead and do the expansion. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 21:47, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Only had a quick glance but Image:Tychowinter6.jpg isn't sourced and can we lose the bullets in BtS? Green Tentacle (Talk) 11:13, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Sourced the pic and fixed the Bts. —Xwing328 (Talk) 03:34, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I think the stuff from Rebel Dawn needs expanding. Specifically, it mentions her and Leia receiving training, how she once met Palpy and that she promised to try and persuade Bail Organa to sign Alderaan up for the Alliance. Also, shouldn't this come before the part about her being Targeter, since the Alliance doesn't exist at this point? Green Tentacle (Talk) 09:39, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Bah, this is an excellent point but another it's another book I don't have (and again I'm in France). Perhaps someone could help me out? Or does Rebel Dawn happen to be on the Russian site?  - breathesgelatin Talk 20:37, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I now have a copy of Rebel Dawn and I have expanded the section in question quite a bit, as well as reordered that section to put it into chronological order.  - breathesgelatin Talk 21:18, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * This is a great article and I'm sure I'll be supporting it shortly. However, a couple of small things:
 * "Her time under the alias "Targeter" was cut short, however, when Imperial spies discovered and eliminated the Rebel cell on Averam." Was Winter stationed there? Can this be stated?
 * " Around 0.5 ABY, she was helping coordinate arms shipments on Drunost" Anymore information? There may not be.
 * "Also at Tycho Celchu left a memorial for his fiancée Nyiestra" There is something missing here.
 * "Winter provided assistance by using her perfect recall to provide Luke with a physical description and other pertinent information about C'Boath" Had Winter encountered C'Boath before?
 * In the paragraph on Ackbar's decline, care/caring are used twice in the same sentence and aiding twice in close proximity. Can this be reworded? --Eyrezer 06:35, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The next few comments will be my reply to Eyrezer. First, the Tycho memorial grammar is fixed.
 * Winter's time under the name Targeter and its use on Averam is discussed in The Last Command very explicitly. She discusses with Leia after being disturbed that Mara knew of "Targeter." As noted in the BTS, this seems to be somewhat in conflict with subsequent sources but without it that whole plotline in TLC wouldn't make sense. I can't cite pages now b/c I'm in France away from my books. It's probably something that deserves a retcon considering Mike Stackpole's X-Wing books and comics but doubt that will ever happen. I admit it's a questionable situation but I structured the article around the best information we have and tried to clarify in the BTS.
 * The arms shipment on Drunost was added by someone else from a brief mention in Allegiance, which I haven't finished. I do however have the book in France and will try to get through it ASAP to see if there's any more to add.
 * Eliminated some of the wordiness in the Ackbar section. See what you think.
 * I'd have to check the books (again, I'm in a double bind being abroad), but I believe she not see C'Boath in person, but had seen holovids of him. It's explicitly discusses when she is talking to Luke abou C'Boath in Dark force Rising.  - breathesgelatin Talk 20:37, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I am about 2/3 of the way through Allegiance now. I don't think much more can be added on Winter except the blurb about Drunost, but I am going to add some clarification and a bit of expansion to the article regarding her role in that regard. Furthermore, on the "Targeter" issue, I have slightly altered the wording in the "Early Missions" section to clarify the point... It's still confusing but I don't know how to fix it since sources conflict....  - breathesgelatin Talk 21:18, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Source the birthdate. QuentinGeorge 07:07, 16 July 2007 (UTC) (Strike all subsequent objections based on this too)
 * That's actually been there forever and I don't know what the source is, unless it's Star Wars chronicles or something. Or possibly... I should check the source books. Let me get back to you on that one.  - breathesgelatin Talk 20:37, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * IIRC, the Chronicles books says that Sheltay has "recently returned from maternity leave" when she's serving Bail in ROTS. Now, I'm not sure how long she took for maternity leave. It could have been anywhere from six months to 2 years. QuentinGeorge 21:09, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Winter's age is stated as being 28 in her stat block in the Dark Force Rising Sourcebook, the same as Leia; though, since they now disregard Pellaeon's age of "70+" from that same book, take it or leave it with a grain of salt. jSarek 10:32, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Per Rebel Dawn, Chapter 2, "Winter smiled. "I'm a year and a few months older than the princess. I just turned seventeen. That's the age of responsibility on Alderaan."
 * I think it could use a brief mention of Tycho's capture by the Imps just to explain why Corran would distrust him. Green Tentacle (Talk) 15:42, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I have added this.  - breathesgelatin Talk 21:18, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Hate to be a pain, but doesn't the Rebel Dawn novel date from a period when the EU assumption for Leia's birthyear was 18 BBY? When is the book set? If it's set in 3 BBY, then Winter would be born in 20 BBY (and perhaps mistaken about Leia's birthdate). QuentinGeorge 03:15, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I see the relevance of an OOU assumption. If Winter stated IU that she was a year older, I don't see how she could also have an OOU assumption. --Eyrezer 03:20, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Here's how. Rebel Dawn is set 2 BBY. If Winter claims to have "just turned 17", then she was born 19 BBY, which is the same year as Leia, not a year and a few months before hand. Winter is either 17 in 2 BBY, or "a year and a few months before Leia" (20 or 21 BBY). She can't be born in both year. So, keeping in mind such a contradiction (which, as I've stated, comes from EU assumptions about Leia's age in ANH), we have to decide whether Winter is stating her age accurately, but not its relation to Leia's age, or states the difference of the ages correctly and gets her own age wrong (or rounds up, or exaggerates, or lies, etc). Either way, the age issue needs an extensive footnote itself. QuentinGeorge 04:38, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see the light. Not sure how to fix but a footnote will have to do I guess. --Eyrezer 04:47, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, I've added a footnote. Would people like to look it over, critique, change etc, particularly those more knowledgeable than me on this particular character? My main inclination is that there are more sources that point to Winter being born a few months prior to Leia, and that perhaps Winter simply doesn't know Leia's exact age. QuentinGeorge 06:34, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * From the desk of Ataru
 * 1.2.1- "meting"-->"meeting"
 * 1.2.1, Para 2, shouldn't there be a comma before the "but" in line 2
 * 1.2.1, Para 2, First line of the sentence doesn't read well, especially the first part.
 * 1.2.1, Para 3, I'm pretty sure there's a comma error or two in the second sentence.
 * 1.2.2, Para 1, capitalize "rebel"- it's a faction name, not a general adjective.
 * 1.2.2, Para 1, needs a comma after "Soon thereafter"
 * 1.2.2, Could use some more explanation of why the city/moff came under attack.
 * Don't have the source for that.
 * I noticed this was struck out but I didn't think it had actually been addressed. So I addressed it. Is what I added enough?  - breathesgelatin Talk 21:56, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 1.2.3, Para 1, needs a comma after the "Together"
 * 1.2.3, Para 1, "took chase" doesn't sound right- reword, please.
 * 1.2.3, Para 1, "failing"-->"failed"
 * 1.3, Para 1, remove comma after Dlarit.
 * 1.3, Para 3, remove comma after imprisoned
 * 1.3, Para 4, first few sentences don't read well. Let's have the part about the Rogue's resignations go first to lay the foundation for what Winter did.
 * 1.3, Para 4, in some senses-->, in some senses, a
 * Actually it's just better without "in some senses" at all. Too wordy on my part.  - breathesgelatin Talk 21:56, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 1.3, Para 4, move the comma to after the "and"
 * Where?
 * 1.3, Para 4, needs more context for return to the New Republic.
 * Couldn't find the book in my collection.
 * Do you consider this addressed?  - breathesgelatin Talk 21:56, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 1.4, Para 1: Factual correction: Han and Leia weren't threatened by assassination. Noghri kidnapping of Leia and her unborn twins was the danger. Nowhere did Thrawn ever order their deaths.
 * 1.4 Para 5, remove comma after children
 * 1.4 Para 6, "was likely to be the site" could be reworded to read better
 * 1.5- could use some explanation of who Terpfen was. You could just make it "Ackbar's brainwashed aide" or something similar.
 * 1.6- seeing "old age" twice in the same sentence says poor diction to me.
 * P&T- "many" commented on her namesake? I thought it was just Tycho. I could be wrong here though.
 * Well many made similar comments, eg that she is a cold person. It's fine though.  - breathesgelatin Talk 21:56, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * P&T- end of first paragraph is not fully referenced.
 * Same as before.
 * Before what? Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 21:44, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Reason as before. Darthchristian   ( Hey! ) 21:48, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Again, I'm in France, but if you want to source that (her being a composed and rational nanny), I believe you can do it from the Jedi Academy trilogy or possibly the Jedi Academy sourcebook.  - breathesgelatin Talk 08:36, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Addressed/clarified.  - breathesgelatin Talk 21:56, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating Day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:38, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed everything but the ones I noted. Darthchristian   ( Hey! ) 21:31, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * I have worked on this extensively with the assistance of a few other users. It is sourced and contains every reference to Winter that I know of, although I have not finished Sacrifice to see if she is mentioned in there.  - breathesgelatin Talk 00:03, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks good, Breathes. Nice job.  Greyman ( Paratus ) 04:48, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Nice article. I'd like to see a bit more inline citations in the Personality and traits section, but that's just a personal preference. &mdash;Mir  len  16:28, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * A question: If Leia and Winter are both adopted, why don't they both hold the title "Princess"? Is this due to Leia being believed to be a biological child? If possible, I think a note on this in the first paragraph would be useful. --Eyrezer 05:40, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * This seems to be a rational explanation, but I've never seen any mention of it in EU, so I would not feel comfortable putting it in the article.  - breathesgelatin Talk 20:49, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I added a footnote which I hope will be acceptable. --Eyrezer 00:25, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Was it confirmed anywhere that she was actually *adopted* by the Organas? I was always under the impression she just grew up in the Organa household (much as Neena did), which would also be why sources call her things like "Leia's close friend and confidant," rather than "Leia's adoptive sister". jSarek 10:32, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Breathesgelatin will have to answer that q. --Eyrezer 00:06, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You know? Honestly that isn't 100% clear to me. The word "adoption" is sometimes used and sometimes not. For example I'm just reading Rebel Dawn and Winter doesn't mention adoption. If she is adopted, it could be in a loose, non-legal kind of sense. And who knows what Alderaanian traditions surrounding adoption are? It's clear, at least, that Leia was presented as the Organas' biological child and that Winter wasn't. But whether that equals Winter not being a princess or not I don't know. Again I think there's just not enough explicit sources to tell.  - breathesgelatin Talk 21:18, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * IIRC, it was Star Wars Chronicles: The Prequels which introduced the Winter adopted by the Organas tidbit. I don't have the book, so I don't know in what terms its stated. QuentinGeorge 04:41, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * By the way everyone, I submitted three questions to Leland Chee at the official site boards regarding Winter's birthdate, adoption status, and her use of the name "Targeter": Click here for link. Hopefully he'll reply and we'll get some sort of definitive answer. Right now I think the footnote solution is the best we can come up with.  - breathesgelatin Talk 10:28, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Seeing as we have footnoted both this point, I think we can move this to the queue. Leland doesn't seem to be in any rush to answer the question. --Eyrezer 00:32, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Can't be moved to the queue with remaining objections. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 21:05, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I think I finished everything out.  - breathesgelatin Talk 21:56, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

(5 Inqs/4 Users/9 Total)
Support Object
 * 1) Nominated. This article was stripped of its FA status a while ago. Chack Jadson 21:00, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 2)  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 13:56, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 16:38, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Green Tentacle (Talk) 17:48, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 5)  Jaina Solo ( Talk ) [[Image:Jainasolosig.gif |25px]] 18:10, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Great article. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 18:57, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Love it Dark Lord Xander 06:59, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) Very well written.  Victor  ( talk ) 01:52, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) Thefourdotelipsis 23:55, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) It's one of the better articles i've seen on Wookieepedia. Destroyer Droid 20:06, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) I really hate to have to do this but since I read it a few days ago there's an edit war brewing over whether Revan's holocron should be listed as one of Bane's masters (it clearly shouldn't) and over his eye colour. There's also now a [source?] tag in the behind the scenes section and somebody's messed up one of the references so that it no longer has a name listed. Until those issues are resolved I have to object. Green Tentacle (Talk) 15:32, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *Actually, forget the reference bit, Greyman's fixed it. Green Tentacle (Talk) 15:33, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Per GT. This is a really annoying thing to have going on, but until the edit conflict is resolved, I unfortunately have to withdraw my support as well.  Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:36, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) I can't support this while muppets keep adding Revan in the "master" field and "yellow" in eye colour. QuentinGeorge 21:14, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) You might need to clarify the bit about Lucas creating the character a bit more since it would appear that not everybody's happy with it. Green Tentacle (Talk) 09:12, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) *Found a source. Green Tentacle (Talk) 12:27, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I think more from the duel with Kas'im should be included, including his trick with 2 lightsabers that he'd concealed from Bane.
 * The bit about Rain finding her own way off Ruusan, is that actually in JvS as referenced?
 * It's from the Dark Forces Saga and New Essential Chronology - it, however, is referenced incorrectly in the article. QuentinGeorge 22:49, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Some of the P&T doesn't seem very well strung together. There is also some overlap that should be avoided.
 * "Bane was independent, defying Qordis, and heading to Lehon instead of joining Kaan's army. After Lehon, Bane became confident in his supremely talented self. He manipulated others for his own purposes, not telling Githany or Kas'im about the private lessons he was taking with them" - the order of this needs to be reversed. It is as though going to Lehon led to the manipulation but the timing was the other way around.
 * The BTS on his origins should be expanded, making more mention of his specific appearances and how that developed.
 * Also the article makes no mention of the conflicts between JvS and POD. Surely this needs to go in the BTS at least. --Eyrezer 01:15, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, add in a in-depth continuity section, as there is many continuity differences between Bane's first mention in TPM novel, his appearances in Bane of the Sith and JvS, and then in PoD. He's a walking continuity nightmare, and Karpyshyn's disdain for canon hasn't helped. As it stands, it seems to heap all the blame on BotS and give the impression the others are saintly and without taint. QuentinGeorge 22:49, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Some of the references are wrong, (notably the elements from NEC are incorrectly labelled as Bane of the Sith) and there is a persistent troll intent on proving to all us misguided folks that Bane of the Sith is "noncanon". (It isn't, and said troll has been told as much many times before). QuentinGeorge 22:49, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Right, now said troll's essay has been added to the article. It needs to be removed, or at the very least, heavily trimmed. At the moment it is a painfully fanboyish harangue against KJA and Bane of the Sith in particular. I have no qualms on an actual "continuity curiousities" section, but it needs to be a) sourced b) free of POV and agenda pushing and C) Map ALL the continuity of Bane and the Ruusan-era Sith, starting from Bane's Lucas conception, through his depiction in the TPM novel, THEN the concurrent release of JvS and BotS, then the depiction of Kaan et al in the Dark Forces flashback, THEN the depiction in PoD. As it currently stands, the section reads like some sort of diatribe on why BotS is horrible and non-canon and KJA a hack because of "contradictions" with later source material. I am not in any sense of form a big fan of KJA, but this sort of agenda-pushing leaves me cold. QuentinGeorge 06:35, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed.  Chack Jadson  Talk 14:29, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Commments
 * Nice job on clearing up the points I left for you, Chack. Greyman ( Paratus ) 16:38, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Sourced the in Bts. Chack Jadson 11:09, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey everyone, this conflict has been fixed. Chack Jadson 11:48, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm abstaining my vote because I haven't finished Path of Destruction yet and I don't want to be spoiled.  Gonk  ( Gonk! ) 19:55, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The only reason I am not in 100% favor of making this a featured article, is because we haven't made an exact time-line with all the contradictions with the various sources, I still believe it deserves a spot as a featured article, though. Destroyer Droid 20:06, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

(3 Inqs/2 Users/5 Total)
Support
 * 1) As nominater. This was previously featured some time ago. Chack Jadson 20:10, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 2)  Gonk  ( Gonk! ) 20:10, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 22:36, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Unit 8311 16:04, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Thefourdotelipsis 04:55, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Object
 * Better source for this, please. Green Tentacle (Talk) 13:03, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * While we're at it the 12th reference doesn't have a name and, if it's from ICS, shouldn't that be under sources too? Green Tentacle (Talk) 13:07, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * Needs more images, particularly at the bottom
 * Current images don't follow standard left-right-left-right layout
 * Perhaps it's a conflicting timeline thing, but how can Anakin and Obi-Wan be both on Nelvaan and Tythe at the same time? The two paragraphs that discuss the detail don't make it clear what's going on.
 * BTS still looks kind of thin as far as conflicting elements- the Nelvaan/Tythe thing needs to go there if it's another error, etc. I noticed a SW.com thread on the issue, so maybe that could be consulted.
 * Still did not see information from ROTS game (Invisible Hand) that was listed on Inq page.
 * Appearance list and reference list don't match up- what is Evil Eye/Evil Eyes and why is it listed incorrectly on the reference list if they are the same work?
 * As much as I hate to say this, is it policy to reference the infobox? Because that would need to be done if so.
 * No information from two non-canon sources is included.
 * Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating Day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 20:59, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Your objections have been fixed.  Chack Jadson  Talk 00:27, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * IMO, the infobox isn't completely sourced and nothing specific has been laid out in the BTS yet. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 13:41, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Finally fixed it all (I hope). :)  Chack Jadson  Talk 13:13, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The reason no info from the non-canon sources is included is that they don't really differ from the movie, to the best of my knowledge. You fly around, destroy ships, and kill Dooku. Nothing that's not already covered.  Chack Jadson  Talk 22:15, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I would personally prefer a bit of BTS on that, but that's me. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Remove bullets from BTS and I still say that if it's mentioned in ICS, that should be on the sources list. Green Tentacle (Talk) 09:25, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed.  Chack Jadson  Talk 15:33, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Unsourced BTS. Thefourdotelipsis 00:10, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * What specifically needs to be sourced? I mean, how exactly can it sourced, seeing as how it says "in the novel", "in the cartoon", etc.  Chack Jadson  Talk 00:27, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Bah. You crazy young people and your different ways. Thefourdotelipsis 04:55, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Read about half of it:
 * Republic actions, paragraph 6 - needs a source.
 * Republic actions, last paragraph - needs a source.
 * The capture of Supreme Chancellor Palpatine, paragraph six - if the two refs are from the same source only one is needed.
 * Shouldn't there be some mention of Windu almost catching Grievous as his shuttle took off? Green Tentacle (Talk) 15:42, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Just a couple more things:
 * Continuing battle, paragraph 2 - "They then received word that a Republic was being attacked by a Separatist cruiser" seems to have a word missing.
 * Continuing battle, paragraph 4 - Is the communications error mentioned in the film or the book? If it's in the film, just ignore this, otherwise you might need to change the source.
 * Could we get the last few bits of the infobox sourced? Green Tentacle (Talk) 10:26, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed.  Chack Jadson  Talk 13:13, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Article name doesn't seem to be supported by official sources, see comment section below. --Craven 16:15, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Comments


 * What source calls this battle the second Battle of Coruscant? The official site just calls it Battle of Coruscant,  the NEC doesn't have any in-universe name for this event, Google only finds Wookieepedia and fansites. --Craven 01:16, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I think it's based on the fact that there was a Battle of Coruscant before this one. As for IU name, I'm not sure if it's ever called the Second Battle.  Chack Jadson  Talk 04:54, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


 * If that name is not used in any official source, then the article should either have a  template, or it should be moved to another name like Battle of Coruscant (19 BBY). --Craven 16:15, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * We've had this discussion before. Check the article's talk page. Although adding a conjecture tag might be a good idea.  Chack Jadson  Talk 12:57, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

(1 Inq/2 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) I've worked long on this article, and I think it is worthy. Any comments/criticism would be helpful.&mdash; Darthtyler Talk 01:44, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Thefourdotelipsis 00:16, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  Chack Jadson  Talk  23:31, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Object
 * '''From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * Remove speculation on origin/parents' history
 * Not enough explanation of sunnydew nectar. Doesn't make much sense.
 * Wicket and Teebo incident section doesn't make much sense. There's irrelevant information that could be condensed, but it doesn't explain why they need to bother Gantu.
 * Wicket and Teebo's escape section doesn't make much sense either. It's written more like part of Teebo's bio, not Gantu's. The action is centered around the deeds of the Ewoks, not the subject (Gantu). Still don't get the whole sunnydew/Zandor Rocker thing.
 * P&T is rather short.
 * Is "Sunnydew nectar" a) supposed to be capitalized b) need to be linked three or four times?
 * Always hard to tell with comics, by my feeling is: no. I fixed the case, and it seems the links have already been fixed. -- Ozzel
 * Remove referencing from intro, per Sourcing.
 * Intro just doesn't read well, particularly the second paragraph.
 * Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:37, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Um, are you being sarcastic? (that last line about the super happy un frustrating part.)&mdash; Darthtyler Talk 16:39, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Not that it matters, but no, I'm not being sarcastic. I don't want people to think it's personal and that I'm picking on them- I do this to everyone. The exact phrasing was inspired by Darth Culator. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:42, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well that makes sense too, I guess.&mdash; Darthtyler Talk 16:48, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Remove bullets from behind the scenes, the Lilo and Stitch bit has nothing to do with anything, fix the source on Image:Coruscanti ogre vs Divto.jpg, referencing should be per paragraph or maybe removed entirely since it's single source, which also means you don't need the first appearance bit. Green Tentacle (Talk) 17:22, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Done.&mdash; Darthtyler Talk 17:29, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * I'd like to see the intro be fleshed out. I don't think it's long enough for the Main Page yet. -- Ozzel 08:07, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I tweaked it a little bit, but I agree. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 13:30, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

(3 Inq/4 Users/7 Total)
Support Object Comments
 * 1) --Eyrezer 15:01, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Green Tentacle (Talk) 11:08, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  Chack Jadson  Talk  19:44, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Ozzel 21:18, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Thefourdotelipsis 00:24, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 04:00, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 7)  StarNeptune Talk to me! 02:17, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The distribution of the decided-upon name for the species in the article is needed. Otherwise, I like it. -  Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 04:40, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I changed about half of them to Lepus Carnivorus. Too many more and it would become awkward. --Eyrezer 07:55, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * One minor thing. In behind the scenes "featured a rabbit trying to the fruit-flavored food" seems to be missing a word or two. Green Tentacle (Talk) 09:46, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * my mind boggles, but it is now fixed. --Eyrezer 11:04, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * If someone could scan the new ALTA version of this pic that would be great. --Eyrezer 04:52, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. -- Ozzel 21:12, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks Oz. --Eyrezer 06:19, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

(2 Inqs/2 Users/4 Total)
Support
 * 1) Higher and higher, baby! It's a living thing! Thefourdotelipsis 04:32, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Tweaked spelling, but otherwise just fine Enochf 10:15, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) John Knoll FTW! -- Ozzel 06:58, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) QuentinGeorge 03:17, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Green Tentacle (Talk) 08:44, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Comments
 * No lead quote, personality and traits needs sourcing. Green Tentacle (Talk) 11:27, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * No real quote applicable. Thefourdotelipsis 22:42, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * So does the last sentence of early life. Green Tentacle (Talk) 11:30, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. Thefourdotelipsis 22:42, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * With a redlink in the intro? Are you high? -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 01:39, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * With this going on the main page in late...2008 at best? Nope. Thefourdotelipsis 01:41, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Redlink taken care of. QuentinGeorge 02:37, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Not that it's policy yet or anything, but it might be good to source everything in the infobox.  Gonk  ( Gonk! ) 13:08, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well...what's common sense remains unsourced, but the rest is. Sourced. Thefourdotelipsis 09:22, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Catch-22? An OOU term in an IU section? Surely not. Green Tentacle (Talk) 10:50, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * "Applause" is not a quote. You have another quote, a legitimate quote, then name the system. 
 * There is no real quote. If the current one does not suffice, there will not be one, there cannot be one, and that will not impact upon this in any way shape or form. Thefourdotelipsis 08:47, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * What is a "political draw card"? This term is probably not familiar to that many people.
 * Foolproofed. Thefourdotelipsis 08:47, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * What does Grey's help as an accountant and assistant have to do with assassination attempts. It doesn't really make sense- please clarify if possible.
 * Fixed. Thefourdotelipsis 08:47, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * For consistency's sake, if you source Empire in the userbox, please source Republic.
 * Yar. Thefourdotelipsis 08:47, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 01:34, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Some of this BTS material might enhance the article. QuentinGeorge 08:47, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

(5 Inqs/4 Users/9 Total)
Support
 * 1)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:56, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Red started off good, you completed it. FA. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 17:43, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) They grow up so fast..- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|20px]] Talk 18:49, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Redjetta 21:52, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Thefourdotelipsis 22:43, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Consider this your present, Greyman. ;-)  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:43, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 7)  Jaina Solo ( Talk ) [[Image:Jainasolosig.gif |25px]] 13:20, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) Green Tentacle (Talk) 15:47, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 9)  Chack Jadson  Talk  02:03, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Object
 * From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * Intro: " armed with usually only her weapon of choice" There's something off with this and I wasn't sure how best to fix it.
 * Fixed.
 * Intro: "unknown species which many found interesting although she herself did not know of their origins." I'm not really sure on those last two clauses (italicized). Is there a particular significance to her elf-ears that I'm missing?
 * Fixed.
 * Where it says "and was thrown off"- was she thrown off by the voice in her head or by physically knocked off the person she was attacking? Clarify please.
 * Fixed.
 * What is an "office type world"? Clarify please.
 * Fixed.
 * What was the "one last disagreement with Zayne about?" Clarify please.
 * Fixed.
 * How can the grandmother be "ill and rested"? Clarify please.
 * Fixed.
 * Third paragraph of the prisoner section does not make much sense- does Adasca go into any more detail?
 * Fixed.
 * Reference errors.
 * Fixed.
 * Why did the Mandos think the Republic was attacking? Did Jarael have anything to do with that?
 * Fixed/expanded.
 * A little more detail on Arvan's rescue would be nice
 * Fixed/expanded.
 * Capitalization of "Masters" and "masters" should be checked throughout the article.
 * Fixed.
 * The "spells" Camper had are not explained, so the situation on Arkania doesn't make much sense.
 * Fixed/explained.
 * Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 15:57, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll be all over these points tonight :) Jarael and I are going to have a little chat... Greyman ( Paratus ) 17:21, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I fixed all of these points except the expansion regarding the rescue of Arvan. Hopefully I'll be able to get that done soon. Greyman ( Paratus ) 03:54, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Expansion has been done on Arvan's rescue. If there are any more objections, I'll have to look at them when I get time since I'm signing off for a couple days now. Cheers, Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:38, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * A project of Red's from the beginning which he and I were recently able to get to GA. I believe we've cleared the way for it's FA nomination now. Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:56, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I suppose it's inherently obvious she's female, even though it's not sourced. ;-) Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 15:57, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

(2 Inq/0 Users/2 Total)
Support
 * 1) Something something. Thefourdotelipsis 08:28, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) What an idiot. Green Tentacle (Talk) 11:15, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * ". . . with the Pa'lowick smuggler Aneesa Dym at his side, he sought to find and kill Kam Nale for local crime lord."&mdash; I think a word is missing near the end. (Intro)
 * Fixed. Thefourdotelipsis 08:36, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I question the use of the second paragraph in the intro. It reads like a P&T section.
 * Introducing you to the P & T seen later on. It's legit. Thefourdotelipsis 08:36, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Second sentence in the "Hunt for Kam Nale" could be reworded to make more sense.
 * Fixed. Thefourdotelipsis 08:36, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Is Nale a Fluggian or a FluggRian?
 * Fixed. Thefourdotelipsis 08:36, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Original research in P&T. Canon only, please. (2nd sentence)
 * It's canon. "His fate changed, however, when as a young man drawn into a cantina brawl, he was able to inadvertently score a bounty on his drunken foe. With the sizable bounty collected, Tel paid for off-planet passage, and used the rest to jumpstart what he thought was his calling: his new bounty hunting career." Thefourdotelipsis 08:36, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Pronouns/objects in Relationships could use some tweaking to make them clearer.
 * Fixed, I suppose. Thefourdotelipsis 08:36, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 01:45, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Comments

(2 User/0 User/2 Total)
Support
 * 1) Previously featured.  Chack Jadson  Talk 14:36, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 00:45, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Conflicting sources should be sorted out. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 19:58, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The article says "Fighting broke out all over Pau City between droid and clone forces, destroying large parts of the sinkhole," and cites Revenge of the Sith. But I didn't see the sinkhole itself sustaining any damage when I saw the film . -LtNOWIS 01:56, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, I don't think there should be quite so many inter-section quotes, especially in "Endgame." -LtNOWIS 01:56, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed.  Chack Jadson  Talk 23:01, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Comments

(3 Inq/0 User/3 Total)
Support Oppose Comments
 * 1) Thefourdotelipsis 11:13, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Green Tentacle (Talk) 11:02, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) --Eyrezer 00:31, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * He lived circa 20,000 BBY and had a lightsaber. But modern lightsabers weren't invented yet. This contradiction should be noted in Behind the scenes. -LtNOWIS 02:25, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Thefourdotelipsis 09:11, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * "Realizing that Wasaki was disturbed, the Rebels prepared to help him, but the Jedi suddenly went rigid as if once again encased in carbonite. Impervious to pain, Wasaki began to use the Force aggressively against the Rebels, with murderous intent. He snapped back out of his state and attacked the Rebels with his lightsabers. The Force-sensitive was able to subdue the Jedi, and disarm him." Huh? What Force-sensitive? The dark side manifestation? If so, that should be cleaned up. And what happens to him next? Is that how the story ends, he tries to kill the rebels, someone stops him, and it's over? The whole last paragraph should be cleaned up. Also, can Disturbance in the Force get a link if possible? The magazine in which the article (the only thing he appears in) should not be a red link.  Chack Jadson  Talk 02:32, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The Force-sensitive previously mentioned to be a part of the Rebel group. And yes, that's how the story ends. Thefourdotelipsis 02:55, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Disturbance in the Force now has an article. --Eyrezer 07:29, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Objection adressed. Thefourdotelipsis 09:14, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * He is described as an errant Jedi early on. How was he errant? --Eyrezer 07:41, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * He journeyed from frontier sector to frontier sector. Thefourdotelipsis 09:18, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm going to be bold and change it to itinerant to avoid any "erroneous" ambiguity. --Eyrezer 23:20, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * "Wasaki was a practitioner of the unusual lightsaber technique wherein the user would wield both a standard sized saber and a smaller shoto, despite being primarily a law enforcer". This needs to be reworded. The last bit seems tacked on. --Eyrezer 07:41, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well...it's because the saber/shoto style was supposed to be more suited to duelling, which Wasaki wouldn't do a lot of...what do you suggest? Thefourdotelipsis 09:18, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I reworded it to make this clearer. Change it if it's not ok. --Eyrezer 00:31, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That's great, thanks. Thefourdotelipsis 08:25, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Most importantly, the intro is way too long in comparision to the rest of the article. It's like a third the length of the rest of the article. --Eyrezer 07:41, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Which part of it do you think I should cut out, or cut down? Thefourdotelipsis 09:18, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, fixed. Thefourdotelipsis 09:57, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

(4 Inq/3 Users/7 Total)
Support
 * 1) Victorious on all fronts. - Lord Hydronium 21:40, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Thefourdotelipsis 01:21, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  StarNeptune Talk to me! 02:04, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) QuentinGeorge 03:17, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Let's not wait to FA Sate! Ozzel 02:22, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) That was two-thirds of a pun, Ozzel - PU!--Goodwood 23:22, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Green Tentacle (Talk) 08:51, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * Not much to complain about. Could use a bit of explanation as to what the heck the Imperial Tribunal was, as it just appears from nowhere. Also, I had to read the last paragraph of Flight to Ciutric a couple of times and I'm still not sure I understand it. Who's the tribune, Isard? Green Tentacle (Talk) 15:00, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * "Tribune" is a typo; I've fixed it to "Tribunal". I don't know if there was anything else that was confusing about that paragraph, but see if it makes more sense now. The comic doesn't really explain where the Tribunal came from (it just appears in Mandatory Retirement), but I tried to clear it up a little. - Lord Hydronium 01:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Comments

(1 Inq/5 Users/6 Total)
Support
 * 1) Nominated.--Goodwood 11:19, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Although i would prefer *see comment* it's still a brilliant article. Tutos Lumenarious 21:58, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Good work. - Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 01:42, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Thefourdotelipsis 08:38, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) I'd decided to stay as far away from this FA-business as possible, but in recognition of the effort put into this great article, I'm going to cast a supporting vote. KEJ 11:03, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) *I think you're in the wrong section then. :P -- [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|40px]] dmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 11:10, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) **Oh, you're right. Thanks for telling me. KEJ 11:25, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) Jedimca0(Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 21:44, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * The complete lack of film screenshots raises my eyebrow. Thefourdotelipsis 09:30, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I've substituted a few of the more pathetic current images with film screenshots already on-site. Hope that makes the difference though I can always scrounge more...--Goodwood 12:21, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Skywalker Loop is linked in the article, but the source it's from doesn't have any other coverage. The book is called Starfighter Battle Book - X-Wing vs. TIE Interceptor; it's all about dogfighting. I hate to say it, but you might have a lot more material to cover. (If you need help finding the book, ask on IRC.) Also, the Ssi-ruuk used entechment to power their starfighters, which was pretty unique. That might warrant coverage. -LtNOWIS 01:50, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I've been through that battle book frontwards and backwards, LtNOWIS, and that's just about the only useful thing I got out of it. Basically the book is a "choose your story" except the "story choices" are "maneuvers" and you turn to the appropriate page to figure out the results. I have, however, added a notation about the Ssi-ruuk and entechment (included in a section in Technology about droid starfighters--not enough room in the History section)--Goodwood 02:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Comments I've worked my fingers to the bone to get this article where it is now, but I'm not complaining because this has been a labor of love. All reasonable objections/suggestions will be taken into due consideration and acted upon.--Goodwood 11:19, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Not complaining or anything but i think it's a little long, could it not be devided into different sections of something like that?Tutos Lumenarious 22:01, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

(2 Inqs/2 Users/4 Total)
Support
 * 1) Nominated.  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 02:23, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) --Goodwood 03:02, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Thefourdotelipsis 09:59, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 4)  Chack Jadson  Talk  12:16, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) I'd like to see a BTS section that is worthy of following that Biography. How did McRandle get the job? What were Tim Zahn's motivations in creating the character? Where did the name come from? What about when Zahn told KJA that he had no intention of her marrying Luke? And then there's the fan reactions: why is Mara so liked/disliked? How did fans react to her recent major development? And what about Mara merchandise? Etc. (Hint, hint, hint...) -- Ozzel 05:09, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *In a word: Bah! I will address the majority of your objection, but there's no way I will add a fan reaction section or merchandise section. I've been fighting for months to have those removed. They're terrible and begging for POV in the case of fandom and totally irrelevant in the case of merchandise. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 13:04, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) **Agreed. Bah! -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 13:17, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) *First point (how she got the job) addressed. No mention of Mara exists in AJ 1. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 00:59, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) **I hate how the following paragraphs would be separated, so I'm gonna get it out of the way now. :-P

My point with the merchandise thing: we've had the merchandise discussion many times and decided to save it for a separate wiki, but the common caveat was for notable EU exceptions. Who was one of the first (and still very few) EU characters to get an action figure? How many EU characters have had a Gentle Giant bust made of them? And how many EU lightsaber replicas have there been? That's gotta be notable.

As for the fan reaction, I'm not asking for wild fanwankery; I mean more along the line of Mara's cultural impact. As it already says, she was polled in 1997 as the top favorite EU character. But eh, whatever.

Now, I definitely think it needs more about Zahn's thoughts on the character; there's some of that in Zahn interviews in those latter sources I mention. (IIRC, there is a least a little bit in the interview in SWAJ 1, there definitely some in that Insider article, and I'm sure there is in other Zahn interviews.) I will try to look into this myself once I'm back with my sources in a few days.

And I am truly sorry you had to endure those Force-Cast goofballs. But it was a necessary evil. ;-) -- Ozzel 03:41, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * Thanks to the major effort put forth by members of WP:NEGTC, we feel Mara is FA quality. Thanks to Greyman, Solus, McEwok, Imperialles, Finlayson, Jaina Solo and anyone else I forgot. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 02:23, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

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Support
 * 1) Nominated. -Darth Homer 17:44, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Comments
 * 1) Needs expansion and referencing, among other things -- [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|40px]] dmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 18:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Almost no sourcing whatsoever, and it's an FA nom. Not a chance. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 01:08, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I know it was a stupid idea to nominate it. My bad.-Darth Homer 02:10, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if the nominator can remove a nomination from the FA nom page themselves if they are the only ones supporting it, but I thing you can ask an Inquisitor (See Category:Wookieepedia Inquisitors) to take it off if it is clearly not FA quality. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 03:09, 15 August 2007 (UTC)