Talk:Recusant-class light destroyer/Legends

"However, it would take 1,000 Recusants to engage a Kuat Drive Yards Mandator-II Star Dreadnought." 1,000? Any source on that? Also, I've only heard mention of the Mandator-class (in the AOTS ICS book), but never Mandator II-class. --SparqMan 14:40, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

I got that source from the Revenge of the Sith Incredible Cross Sections. Probably these Recusants were produced in a great quantity yet were of poor quality. -- User:222.152.170.253 7:43, 2 July 2005

The ROTS ICS does indeed say it takes 1,000 Recusants to take down a single Mandator II. Recusants are quite weak, and it takes 4-6 of them just to take down a Venator or Victory-class Star Destroyer. That means the Mandator II is a match for approximately 200 Victory-class Star Destroyers. Curtis Saxton, who wrote the ICS, is of the belief that combat ability is related to a ship's volume, since a bigger ship would have a bigger reactor to power its shields and weaponry. Going by this logic, an Imperial-class Star Destroyer can take down 6 Venators or VSDs because it has about 6 times the volume (I know that's not what WEG says, but Saxton and a lot of other technically-minded people think WEG is stupid). This means that the Mandator II is a match for about 34 ISDs. This still means that it's weaker than the Executor, which is said to be over 100 times the size of an ISD. JimRaynor55 09:00, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The Star Wars data bank doesn't say it takes 4 to 6 Recusant-class destroyer to destroy a Republic Star Destroyer. It says they usally attack in teams of 4-6.
 * And the ROTS ICS says that those teams of 4-6 ships are needed to take down a Victory or Venator. JimRaynor55 04:41, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Move?
As stated in the Confederate Navy talk page, this ship was, in fact, called the Recusant-class light destroyer. Therefore, it should be moved. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 12:15, 23 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Star Fighters
There is no place where it says the Recusant Destroyers could carry fighters
 * Except maybe the Episode III Incredible Cross-Sections, I believe. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 00:10, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
 * The ROTS ICS says that the Recusant doesn't actually have any hangars for holding and maintaining fighters, but droid starfighters are able to go into its empty spaces and hitch a ride through hyperspace. JimRaynor55 04:43, 15 March 2006 (UTC)


 * There you go. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 20:32, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

ROTJ original concept?
Anyone found that sideview of the Recusant while ROTJ was being produced? I'd like to add it to the bts section. Could have sworn I've seen it on the net, somewhere. VT-16 17:14, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * StarWars.com? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 18:27, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I found this Photoreceptor image. They don't look especially like the Recusant to me, though - Kwenn 18:35, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * That probably isn't it, then. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 18:37, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * It's also Hyperspace only, so I can't see it. Though I'm almost certain I've seen it, or parts of it. Looked just like the Recusant, too, from the side. VT-16 14:10, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm a Hyperspace member, and I always view exclusive images, but I haven't seen this image you refer to. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:00, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks anyway. :) VT-16 12:03, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll keep my eye out, though. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:15, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Mon Calamari?!?
"In 20 BBY, plans were stolen from the Mon Calamari Shipyards. Soon after, the CIS began fielding large amounts of the Recusant-class destroyer."

Where is it stated that the Recusant is a Mon Calamari ship? The designs were from the initial drawings from ROTJ, but the correctness of the above statement is yet to be proven. It doesn't look like a mon calamari ship, rather more like the Munificent-class star frigate that originated on Muunilinst. --Pinioncorp 14:42, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * There is a HoloNet News article in an Insider issue that says Mon Calamari plans were stolen. Considering that concept art for a Mon Calamari cruiser looks very similar to this, I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that the Recusant is a Mon Calamari design. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:42, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * It is the only capital ship class that was designed and fielded during the war. All the other major classes were operational prior to the CW (Lucrehulk, Munificent, Providence etc.) The date of the theft of the plans is in the middle of the war and Recusants only started to appear in sources after this. Since most HoloNet news articles have some kind of trivia-connection to AOTC and ROTS (which is why they were written in the first place ;)), this would be yet another. VT-16 09:36, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Good point. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 14:51, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

The Alliance had a Recusant?
According to the article, the Rebel Alliance were in possession of a Recusant-class destroyer in 0BY. Where's the source to support this claim?
 * If you looked down at the "appearances" section, you would have seen it. VT-16 16:55, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * VT, do you have a picture? I looked, but I didn't see one. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:13, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I meant, "see in the actual issue of SW:Rebellion". Hang on, I'll try to find a picture. VT-16 21:32, 5 November 2006 (UTC)