Talk:Unidentified Jedi (Battle of Alderaan)

Satele Shan?
Could she be? Similar looking and was evidently very powerful. Darth Tyranitar 21:34, June 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * No, too many differences. Satele has brownish-red hair, green (though bio pic is brown) eyes, and a green single hilt (during the GGW). This Jedi girl has black hair, sharp blue eyes, and a double-bladed lightsaber. They're different people. --Xepeyon You Speak, I've Spoken 00:41, June 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm very sure this Jedi and Satele are the one and the same. Satele's hair in her bio picture is graying and yes, she has green eyes (her eyelashes make that difficult to see). The "Unidentified Jedi" has those same white highlights, and the only time you get a clear shot of her eyes is when she has her Blue lightsaber in front of her. Plus, the stuff she was doing was way too powerful for her to be anybody but Satele. I believe Satele and this Jedi are the same-- Korto Vos 11:48, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

When push comes to shove, whether we believe this Jedi and Satele Shan are the same is irrelevant. We can't just assume they're the same, we need to wait for confirmation. - Brandon Rhea  (talk) 19:00, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, though I don't agree with this constant behind the scenes removal and renewal. It should be left in the article, though it is speculation it is widely believed to be true by a lot of people. The Kreia article mentions fan speculation in the behind the scenes article, why can't this one? Darth Tyranitar 19:46, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

I don't remember where but I read somewhere that she and the Unknown Trooper, are the two unseen character from the Deceived novel by Kemp Maxattac 21:13, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Interesting Darth Tyranitar 21:15, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Please see the header on the top of this page&mdash;this page is for discussing the article, not the subject. And speculation on who she might be is not allowed in the behind the scenes section, or anywhere else. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 21:21, June 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * Then the Kreia article, probably others, need to be fixed. Darth Tyranitar 21:23, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, feel free to fix them if there is unsourced speculation or theories in them. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 23:53, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Ha, just looked on the page now and fan-theories removed. Looks like someone beat me to it Darth Tyranitar 23:59, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm glad I caught this. There's a big different between 1 + 1 = 5 (Your theory), and a complex series of clues that was commented on as a "Good catch" by Chris Avellone, lead writer of KOTOR2. SinisterSamurai 04:49, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * It should be noted that Darth Malgus also looks very different in this trailer than in the Decieved trailer, suggesting that this trailer takes place quite some time earlier. Therefore, this certainly could be Satele Shan, since her similarity in appearence to Bastila is unmistakeable. I'm not suggesting that we speculate in the article, only that I think we should be ready when this is confirmed.98.27.213.72 01:37, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * As much as I doubt she is Shan, if she is confirmed to be her, or anyone else for that matter, rest assured that people will update the neccessary articles accordingly. That is our job here on Wookieepedia. Our job is to report on what is or is not canon, not to speculate.-- 01:42, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't actually see Satele Shan in this Jedi, apart from the fact that like Satele she is a young human female Jedi. I don't get the mentality; we see a female Jedi, we know the name of another young female Jedi so for they must be the same person? If you look close enough you can find similarity in everyone and everything. Speculation and opinion are not nearly enough to even warrant mentioning it in the Behind the Scenes let alone anywhere else. As said above, assumptions count for nothing; I think this discussion should be dropped.  Alexsau1991  ( Talk page ) SithEmblemTOR.PNG 11:16, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

I absolutely stay behind that Satele isnt this Jedi. There are several facts which prove it.

1) As already said, Satele have red hair and green yes, while this jedi have black hair and blue eyes. Also this one is older than Satele, not much but still she is.

2) For some reasson because Satele will became a Grand Master, everyone thinks she was that good also as padawan, but the fact is that nobody was as powerful on the beginning as is in the end. Look on Bane. On the start he was a promising, but still he sucked, after death of that Fharang or what he lost the connection to the Force, and after some time he became as powerful as he never was, and noone was at the time. Satele was from the webcomic more than average padawan, but still she wasnt a match against Sith Lord. This Jedi is definitly a Jedi Knight, or even Jedi Master. Satele was simply too unskilled with the Force.

3) Because we dont know when this battle happened, we cant say if it was year before the Sacking of Coruscant, five years or even 15. This highly feed the confusion, when we will know the date of this battle, we should say with much more precision that this Jedi and Satele are two different persons.

4) Level of powers, already said.

I must admit for some time I also thinked she is Satele, but than I understood it isnt she. But still I wonder who this Jedi really is. Her name and some info about her, more than we can see from the trailer, but as Echani sais "throught fight I know the person" (in this way) :) VolteMetalic 23:11, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * As I have alreeady wirtten at Sateles discussion page, it was confirmed that Satele is not the Jedi from the trailer. Gulomi Jomesh 23:19, June 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I just said my opinion and facts to support my statement. VolteMetalic 17:16, June 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * This has been definitively shot down by a developer in an interview:

"Who is the female Jedi in the “Hope” trailer? Is it Satele Shan?"

Brian Arndt: "I can tell you that it is most definitely not Satele Shan."

http://www.askajedi.com/2010/06/18/brian-arndt-qa/ (- -) 17:30, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Included picture
Is that a Force Wave? It looks a lot like how Galen uses his strongest Force Push in TFU.RC-1010 00:56, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Force Absorb image?
Do you think an image of her utilizing Force Absorb would benefit the article? I could get a pretty good shot if need be. Ruthless Xero 05:54, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think it would be very appreciated :) ShaakTi1138 05:57, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Resemblance?
Maybe this is just me, but does this girl remind anyone else of Serra Keto? --Xepeyon You Speak, I've Spoken 05:17, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, but its an irrelevant discussion topic. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 07:05, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Kinetite?
"Kinetite was a sphere of restrained kinetic energy which could be thrown at an enemy.", could she have been using a variation of this technique? It was not fist sized like Vaders, but maybe Vader was not able to create a bigger one (or other way around, she can't fokus the energies as good as Vader). Should it maybe be added as speculation (here or under the kinetite article). Otherwhise than just calling it "Force Hadoken"... Morgyl 17:12, June 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * The key word here being "speculation," which has no place on Wookieepedia articles. For now the telekinesis link will have to do. JethLordMaster Ying yang copy.jpg (Xia Order) 17:44, June 19, 2010 (UTC)