User talk:KFan II

KFan II, -- Riffsyphon1024 04:40, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia Articles
Look, I know I have no authority here, but I request that you stop transfering the Wikipedia articles here. They are not needed right now. So, please just stop.--Darth Fisto 02:18, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree with Darth Fisto. While I am also not one in a position of authority, and moving missing article over from WP is in some cases a good thing to do, we don't need our current articles being utterly replaced by WP articles. Articles on the two wikis are going to be different. The ones here on SWW have already been here for a while. If you think they need improvement, make your own changes, gradually if need be, but don't simply replace them with WP articles. -- Aidje 02:32, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, the movie articles stink! They are short and have only the opening crawl and the cast. People need more information than that, if they are Star Wars fans! Also, just spell out titles. I don't care for WPs or SWWs at the time. Thanks. KFan II 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't know right off all the circumstances, but please make sure you follow the guidelines for copying articles from Wikipedia. I would say we only need move over a Wikipedia article if the SWW article does not exist or is severely lacking.  I think the point here is to not cavalierly toss out work that others have put into the SWW articles.  WhiteBoy 02:07, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

No hard feelings
I appreciate your desire to improve Wookieepedia, and I hope you don't think I have some sort of personal vendetta against you&mdash;I just don't agree with some of your ideas, that's all. Perhaps you should try making smaller, less controversial edits rather than the huge improvements that you seem to have a desire to make. Any contribution, even if it isn't a total revision of an article, is appreciated&mdash;and even small revisions can be better than replacing work that's already been done. Sorry if you've felt less than welcome so far, I don't mean to be overbearing. – Aidje talk 01:48, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

Merging articles
What is up with your obsession with merging articles. I saw on one talk page that you wanted to merge Darth Vader with Anakin Skywalker: aaaaaaagggh. It is important that they are kept separate because Anakin does not become Darth Vader, until he turns to the dark side. I know everyone seems to be having a go, but I think that (in the case of Anakin and Darth Vader) it wouldn't be a good idea to merge. In some ways I see your reasons for wanting to merge Darth Sidious with Palpatine (how much background info do we actually get on Palpatine's past?, apart from the fact that he was trained by Darth Plaugeis) --Mantus 18:50, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I've actually come around to KFan II's point of view on merging the Darth titles with the individuals who hold them. They're the same people, after all.  There's precedent in some Star Wars reference books like The New Essential Guide to Characters, which lists Vader and Anakin in the same entry (it doesn't do that with Palpy and Sidious, because when it was published we didn't officially "know" they were the same person).  JSarek 19:43, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
 * That's gonna be a major rewrite, with big headings, but I agree, probably worth it in the long run.--Eion 19:44, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Palpatine fusion
KFan II, I thought that there was going to be a vote on before you merged (redirected) Palpatine with Darth Sidious. Though I could see a point in merging the articles you should have followed a better procedure first. Anyway, no hard feelings --Mantus 14:31, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

Edit summaries
Hey KFan II. After making an edit to an article, please take a few seconds to describe your edit in the Summary box. It is helpful to other people working on the same article. Thanks! --SparqMan 23:59, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I advise you, KFan to stop putting spoilers in the edit summaries. -- Riffsyphon1024 01:06, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
 * What are you talking about? KFan II 01:34, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

I have a funny joke!
Palpatine discusses important political matters with George Lucas.

KFan II 01:49, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

Great picture --Mantus 17:31, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. My dad thought the caption was hilarious. KFan II 03:29, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

=Dark Lord of the Sith succession box=

Please stop your edits on these. You've now ruined the intents of them. QuentinGeorge 21:16, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I have reverted your edits on the Sith Lords. Please see my talk page for reasoning. QuentinGeorge 21:25, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Palpatine merging
One again, I hold no position of power in this Wiki. However, you really should stop posting things on users who voted to merge the Palpatine and Sidious pages under Palpatine's talk pages, telling them that their opinion is wrong. People can have opinions. In the words of Captain Mifune, "Not everyone believes what you beleive!"--Darth Fisto 22:24, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
 * KFan, I might as well post what I said on my own talk page here- whether or not Palpatine was given the name Sidious early in life, and whether or not Palpatine was his real name, he continued to rule under the name Palpatine even after it had served his purpose as a public face. He became the Emperor Palpatine even after the Jedi Order was destroyed. If Sidious was his 'real' name, as you say, then WHY did he not use that name when he was the Emperor? As it stands, Palpatine is the closest thing he has ro a real name, and so there is little logic in putting them under his Sith title. --Fade 23:10, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I am just trying to tell people that they are doing the wrong thing. I know people can have opinions, but that doesn't mean I can't persuade them to change their opinions. In a democracy, everyone can speak his/her mind. Personally, I don't care that he kept Palpatine after he became Emperor. It has no significance. Besides, if he called himself "Darth Sidious", wouldn't his officers question him, first, about "Darth", as it was the same as Vader's, and then, if they learned about the Sith (which must not be that hard, I mean, they probably still had libaries), and then they would question his goodness. I am just trying to make a point. Keep your opinion, I don't care! KFan II 01:48, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * There's no more fact to your opinion than there is mine. Less in fact, as I don't think his officers would care about his 'goodness', considering he was a well known tyrant anyway. I may be wrong, but I think in EU canon it's fairly common knowledge that Vader is known as a Lord of Sith. And why didn't he just call himself Sidious? No one assumed this 'Tyranus' was Sith without the Darth title. Either way, it wouldn't matter to the people of the time. Sith, Jedi, what's the difference to them, except the Sith brought them stability and the Jedi tried to destroy the Senate (as far as they know)? Provide sources if you arn't just making massive assumptions. The evidence we have suggests that Darth Sidious was no more his name than Fade is mine. --Fade 09:46, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * KFan II, stop trying to push your own opinion as fact. There are no sources that say:
 * Palpatine's real name isn't palpatine.
 * Palpatine was apprenticed at a young age (Maul was, but we know this because we have sources that specifically say this)
 * That "Darth Sidious" is his real name and that Palpatine is an alias.
 * You are trying to push your own fanon into these articles. Please stop to consider the nature of this wiki. QuentinGeorge 06:15, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

OK
We don't hate you KFan II. We just think that you have radical ideas and sometimes your manner and attitude to those who don't agree with your ideas is not very good. At least your idea of merging palpatine and Sidious has sparked (i think) a rather interesting debate. --Darth Mantus 09:38, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Of course we don't hate you. You need to discern between disagreement and hatred.  You must remember that this is a community created site.  Your voice has just as much validity as the next person's.  But you must bear in mind that you cannot force your ideas upon SWW if the majority does not agree.  And I, as a "people," an admin, a user, and a web friend, do not hate you.  :)  WhiteBoy 03:56, 27 May 2005 (UTC)