Wookieepedia:Inquisitorius/Log/2009 April 18

[01:10]		 STARTIN' UP DA LOG! [01:10]		Steady, steady. [01:10]	* GreenTentacle	switches to professional mode. :P [01:10]		I've always loved our clandestine Inq promotions. They're so duplicitously unduplicitous. [01:10]	* CavalierOne	switches to awake mode. [01:11]		Heh. [01:11]		Dinner's ready. [01:11]		Alright, time to paste my rantings: [01:11]		"Do your damn job, part umpteen – I'll admit, even before I took my leave of the site for about a month, I barely edited the FAN page out of sheer disinterest. Well, I'm back, and ready to get my hands dirty. At the same time as I am going over the FAN finding articles to review and vote for, I see a serious lack of interest from the majority of my fellow Inquisitors. Their reasons are... [01:11]		...manifold, but one fact remains: there is an obligation to do at least some of the work we agreed to when we accepted membership in the Inq. I believe that everyone should take a hard look at whether their name should really remain on that list, and if so, whether they believe they're doing enough to earn it. " [01:11]		Oh, does article review come last? [01:12]		Bah! Review first, ranting later. [01:12]		I can basically sidestep this one. Since I made the meeting page, it's been great in terms of individual efforts. [01:12]		Thank you all for this. [01:12]		Yes, yes, we can skip to reviews first. [01:12]		:P [01:12]		The articles probed last meeting: [01:12]		Tavion Axmis [01:12]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Tavion_Axmis&diff=2435935&oldid=2399863 [01:13]	<Graestan>	Still missing a P&A. [01:13]	<The4dotelipsis>	Dear me, no. [01:13]	<LordHydronium>	Does she need a P&A, though? [01:13]	<GreenTentacle>	Nothing much changed. [01:13]	<LordHydronium>	Does she show powers and abilities worth noting in their own section? [01:13]	<The4dotelipsis>	I think so. [01:13]	<Grunny>	Yes in the game she does [01:13]	<The4dotelipsis>	With all her sceptering. [01:13]	<LordHydronium>	I honestly don't remember. :P [01:13]	<CavalierOne>	She does exhibit her own, plus the powers of Ragnos [01:13]	<LordHydronium>	Ah, yes. [01:13]	<GreenTentacle>	Yeah, I think there's enough for it. [01:13]	<Graestan>	Sure, she used the Force. [01:13]	<GreenTentacle>	Particularly with the Ragnos bit. [01:14]	<LordHydronium>	Grae: I think only powers worth a note deserve that section, but in this case, we have them. [01:14]	<LordHydronium>	So, kill. [01:14]	<GreenTentacle>	Quite an easy fix really. [01:14]	<Graestan>	Of course. [01:14]	<The4dotelipsis>	The punishment is crucifixion. [01:14]	<The4dotelipsis>	To the death. [01:15]	<Graestan>	I say to kill it, sadly. [01:15]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Yes. Kill. [01:15]	<Cylka>	Kill. [01:15]	<The4dotelipsis>	It's a little messy, regardless. [01:15]	<CavalierOne>	Killify. I see potential for a much longer article. [01:15]	<Grunny>	Kill [01:15]	<GreenTentacle>	Kill. [01:15]	<The4dotelipsis>	Single sentence paragraphs. That sort of thing. [01:16]	<Graestan>	I tell you, she dead. [01:16]	<Darth_Culator>	Yep. [01:16]	<Graestan>	Next comes Cronal: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Cronal&oldid=2399844 [01:17]	<LordHydronium>	Do you know our article still says we need only five votes to strip? :P [01:17]	<The4dotelipsis>	Bring in the victim! I mean...the accused. [01:17]	<LordHydronium>	:( :( :( :( [01:17]	<LordHydronium>	I blame 4dot. [01:17]	<LordHydronium>	!blamer [01:17]	<The4dotelipsis>	I blame Hydro. [01:17]	<Nuku-Nuku>	I blame Darth_Culator [01:17]	<The4dotelipsis>	And Matt Stover. [01:17]	<The4dotelipsis>	Kill. [01:17]	<Graestan>	Fourdot, did you read Mindor and do you want a little more time to update this one? He's yours. [01:17]	<LordHydronium>	I blame Cronal. [01:17]	<LordHydronium>	I read Mindor, Grae, and I had all the time in the world to update it [01:17]	<The4dotelipsis>	He's more Hydro's than mine. :P [01:17]	* GreenTentacle	glares at 4dot and Hydro. [01:17]	<LordHydronium>	Even I'm going to say kill this one. [01:17]	<Graestan>	Okay, kill. [01:17]	<LordHydronium>	I can renom it if I ever get off my duff and update it. [01:18]	<The4dotelipsis>	Might be for the best, anyway, since the new stuff will constitute over 50% of the article. [01:18]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Having read Mindor, I don't blame anyone for not updating it. Kill it. [01:18]	<TommyTreo>	Kill. [01:18]	<GreenTentacle>	I hope you do. [01:18]	<CavalierOne>	Kill. I'm still trying to get my head around the continuity :P [01:18]	<GreenTentacle>	It's a shame to have to kill two good articles in one go. [01:18]	<Grunny>	Kill [01:18]	<LordHydronium>	GT: I hope so too. :P [01:18]	<GreenTentacle>	But kill we must! [01:18]	<Cylka>	Kill then. [01:18]	<Darth_Culator>	Yep. [01:18]	<The4dotelipsis>	And I was disenchanted at his lack of Atha Primeness, anyway. [01:18]	<LordHydronium>	See, 4dot left me holding the bag. :P [01:18]	<LordHydronium>	And then I dropped the bag. [01:18]	<LordHydronium>	And then the cat got out of the bag. [01:18]	<CavalierOne>	Then I blame Abel. [01:19]	<The4dotelipsis>	And then curiosity killed the cat. [01:19]	<LordHydronium>	Objection! There's no bags in that sentence. [01:19]	<Graestan>	:S [01:19]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jedi_apparel&diff=2472653&oldid=2399850 [01:19]	<LordHydronium>	Right. So, moving on... :P [01:19]	<Graestan>	Kill. [01:19]	<CavalierOne>	Curiosity bagged the cat. [01:19]	<Darth_Culator>	SUPERKILL [01:19]	<Grunny>	Kill [01:19]	<LordHydronium>	Death to America Jedi apparel [01:19]	<Cylka>	Kill. [01:20]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Kill [01:20]	<Graestan>	Solus needs to become a man again and renom. :D [01:20]	<GreenTentacle>	Kill. [01:20]	<The4dotelipsis>	Appearances section makes Baby Jesus cry. [01:20]	<The4dotelipsis>	Kill. [01:20]	<LordHydronium>	Become a man /again/ ? [01:20]	<CavalierOne>	Kill. [01:20]	<TommyTreo>	Kill. [01:20]	<GreenTentacle>	LordHydronium: Solus is apparently female now. [01:20]	-->|	Fiolli (n=Fiolli@wikia/Jedimasterfiolli) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [01:20]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-inquisitorius +o Fiolli by chanserv [01:20]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-inquisitorius +o Fiolli by Nuku-Nuku [01:20]	<LordHydronium>	I thought she always was. [01:21]	<Graestan>	Buongiorno. [01:21]	<Fiolli>	Hello, folks. [01:21]	<GreenTentacle>	Well, probably... [01:21]	<Darth_Culator>	There are no females on the internet. [01:21]	<GreenTentacle>	I don't think she had a sex change. :P [01:21]	<Fiolli>	Sorry for the delay. What are we debating presently? [01:21]	<GreenTentacle>	But we all assumed male. [01:21]	<LordHydronium>	Fiolli: Sex changes. [01:21]	<Cylka>	No females at all. :-P [01:21]	<Graestan>	Whether to sack Fiolli. [01:21]	<Fiolli>	Oh. [01:21]	<Fiolli>	Bah. [01:21]	<CavalierOne>	The sex of Solus, apparently. [01:21]	<LordHydronium>	GT: I'm pretty sure she called herself female. :P [01:21]	<Graestan>	Cylka's so a dude. [01:21]	<LordHydronium>	Also, she recorded for the Wookieecast. [01:21]	<GreenTentacle>	LordHydronium: So did Pi. :P [01:22]	<Fiolli>	Solus is, according to everything on SWF, a female. [01:22]	<Fiolli>	Don't know, though. [01:22]	<GreenTentacle>	I don't want to know how you know that. [01:22]	* CavalierOne	is so confused at the moment, and would like to remind everyone that this is going on the log ... [01:22]	<Graestan>	/Solus is now known as Sola/ [01:22]	<LordHydronium>	Yes, we shouldn't be arguing about females. [01:22]	<GreenTentacle>	Paying attention to SWF is grounds for kicking. [01:22]	<LordHydronium>	Now, Bastila. [01:22]	* The4dotelipsis	hurls a hammer at the log. [01:22]	<GreenTentacle>	Andyway, we had a topic at some point. :P [01:22]	<Graestan>	Let's argue about this female: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Bastila_Shan&diff=2482962&oldid=2399874 [01:22]	<Cylka>	Bastila needs a lot of work. [01:23]	<Fiolli>	Kill. [01:23]	<Cylka>	I looked at it, and no. Kill. [01:23]	<Grunny>	Kill [01:23]	<The4dotelipsis>	What's this? [01:23]	<Graestan>	I trust the KotOR boss on this one. [01:23]	<LordHydronium>	She's met the requirements on the Inq page. [01:23]	<Graestan>	Death. [01:23]	<The4dotelipsis>	Effort? [01:23]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Kill [01:23]	<TommyTreo>	Kill. [01:23]	<GreenTentacle>	Our specific objections seem to be rectified. [01:23]	<Cylka>	The article really needs to be expanded. [01:23]	<The4dotelipsis>	Wait, what are the objections? [01:23]	<LordHydronium>	Keep. The Inq page requirements are met. If there were supposed to be more, it needs to have a chance at filling them. [01:23]	<The4dotelipsis>	We cannae kill if they've all been answered. [01:23]	<GreenTentacle>	The4dotelipsis: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Wookieepedia:Inq/Bastila_Shan_(second_review)&t=20090331191455 [01:24]	<Fiolli>	Wait, this is the one I wanted to keep. [01:24]	<Darth_Culator>	Mm. [01:24]	<Fiolli>	Keep. [01:24]	<GreenTentacle>	If there's more objections, then we should extend the probing. [01:24]	<The4dotelipsis>	Maybe we should extend the probe. [01:24]	<The4dotelipsis>	Yes. [01:24]	<Darth_Culator>	If the objections are met, the worst we can do is extend. [01:24]	<Fiolli>	I'm not against an extension. [01:24]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Yes, let's probe Bastila some more. [01:24]	<Graestan>	I'd say extend, then. [01:24]	<Darth_Culator>	To do otherwise would be dickish. Beyond our usual level of dickery, I mean. [01:24]	<Cylka>	Alright, then lets extend them. [01:24]	<LordHydronium>	Sure, extend probe. But we need to have specific objections. [01:24]	<Graestan>	Per Tranner, and sorry, Mrs. Graestan [01:25]	<CavalierOne>	Extension of probity. [01:25]	* Graestan	speaks to imaginary non-existent wife :S [01:25]	<Grunny>	Extend [01:25]	<Darth_Culator>	Hmm. Ignore this, I'm curious about something. [01:25]	<Darth_Culator>	!peak [01:25]	<Nuku-Nuku>	Darth_Culator: Eyrezer set a record of 19 people in #wookieepedia-inquisitorius on April 13, 2008 at 01:07 AM Eastern Standard Time. You'll need 6 more people to break the peak. [01:26]	<Darth_Culator>	Ah. [01:26]	<Darth_Culator>	Moving on. [01:26]	<GreenTentacle>	Wow. We used to care. :P [01:26]	<LordHydronium>	I think that was back when we had observers. [01:26]	<The4dotelipsis>	My imaginary wife is a tramp. I only beat her three times today. Shame. [01:26]	<CavalierOne>	We're closed door now. [01:26]	<LordHydronium>	Ew, blerg, unsourced paragraphs! [01:26]	<The4dotelipsis>	Until some idiot dropped a junior mint into one of the probed articles. 9_9 [01:27]	<LordHydronium>	So let's start coming up with objections here. [01:27]	<Graestan>	I don't want non-Inqs in here while we start the agenda item discussions, anyhow. [01:27]	<LordHydronium>	Unsourced paragraphs. [01:27]	<LordHydronium>	Crap prose. [01:28]	<LordHydronium>	"Bastila also worried about what would happen when he found out who he was, would he turn? Could she stop him? Would he forgive her for lying to him?" [01:28]	<Graestan>	Horribly inadequate intro. [01:28]	<CavalierOne>	Image placement is messy and unstructured. [01:28]	<Fiolli>	Extend if these were not addressed; kill if they were mentioned on the review. [01:28]	<Cylka>	Some anon went through and added a lot of crap yesterday. [01:28]	<LordHydronium>	Fiolli: They weren't in the review. We're coming up with them for the extension. [01:28]	<CavalierOne>	That's what happens when she gets a descendent. [01:29]	<Fiolli>	Hydro: Thanks. [01:29]	<Graestan>	Sections in need of resectioning. [01:29]	<Cylka>	Expansion id needed. [01:29]	* Fiolli	is trying to multitask and utterly failing. [01:29]	<CavalierOne>	Kotor games events could be fleshed out into greater detail. [01:29]	<Cylka>	Especially in the capture of Revan. [01:29]	<LordHydronium>	Needs some sort of game mechanic tags. [01:29]	<Cylka>	Their time in Taris. [01:29]	<CavalierOne>	 tags where appropriate. [01:30]	<Cylka>	Her part in Revan's mind wipe per the CG. [01:30]	<LordHydronium>	Cylka: That's in there. [01:30]	<GreenTentacle>	So I think we can safely say the probing needs extending. [01:30]	<CavalierOne>	Powers and abilities woeful short. [01:30]	<LordHydronium>	GT: We already decided that. :P [01:31]	<GreenTentacle>	Bah! [01:31]	<TommyTreo>	Those are a lot of objections. [01:31]	<Graestan>	SOme external links to be found, I imagine. [01:32]	<TommyTreo>	Is an article with that many problems really worth featured designation? [01:32]	<CavalierOne>	I dare say the BTS could be longer. [01:32]	<LordHydronium>	Grae: I don't really think that's something we can object on. I mean, there's CUSWE, which...blech. [01:32]	<GreenTentacle>	TommyTreo: We have to give them a chance to be fixed. [01:32]	<TommyTreo>	Yes. [01:32]	<Cylka>	Star Forge section could use some expansion. [01:33]	<GreenTentacle>	But I doubt they'll be done in time. [01:33]	<Graestan>	Well, before TOS got fracked we could have found plenty there. [01:33]	<Fiolli>	Heh. [01:34]	<The4dotelipsis>	Anything else? [01:34]	<Graestan>	Are we done with the new objections yet? [01:34]	<LordHydronium>	So, we got a nice list of what's wrong? [01:34]	<Fiolli>	Yes. Let's make the extension official. [01:34]	<GreenTentacle>	Aye. [01:35]	<LordHydronium>	OK, new articles. [01:35]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/B%27omarr_Orderhttp://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/B%27omarr_Order [01:35]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/B%27omarr_Order * [01:35]	<LordHydronium>	# B'omarr Order - As of this post, this one just went up on the Main Page with a Content Approaching tag. This is our second such occurrence in the past month or so, which I'm pretty disappointed in, but that's another discussion. Anyway, missing content. Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:11, 13 April 2009 (UTC) [01:35]	<Graestan>	Bizarrely old source missing. [01:35]	<GreenTentacle>	Probe. [01:35]	<Grunny>	Probe [01:35]	<GreenTentacle>	Acky's had plenty of warnings to fix this. [01:36]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Probe [01:36]	<Cylka>	Probe. [01:36]	<The4dotelipsis>	Probe. [01:36]	<GreenTentacle>	It's been moved back on the queue twice. [01:36]	<LordHydronium>	Bummer Monkey needs its source. [01:36]	<Graestan>	'bation. [01:36]	<LordHydronium>	Probe. [01:36]	<GreenTentacle>	And nothing's been done. [01:36]	<CavalierOne>	Probe - but I believe Acky will be sporadic on the site at best. [01:36]	<CavalierOne>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/User:AdmirableAckbar [01:36]	<Graestan>	Alright, the monks are on notice. [01:36]	<Graestan>	Grunny: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nyna_Calixte [01:36]	<Graestan>	What's the situation/ [01:37]	<GreenTentacle>	:( [01:37]	<Grunny>	I updates for the LECG [01:37]	<Grunny>	The only real information to add was P&t [01:37]	<Graestan>	Good Lord. [01:37]	<Graestan>	"(pronounced /Nine-uh Kalix-tay/)" [01:37]	<LordHydronium>	It confirms her real name is Nyna, but the article was assuming that anyway. [01:37]	<GreenTentacle>	She made it to the main page before the update tag was added. [01:37]	<Graestan>	:| [01:37]	<LordHydronium>	Grae: I KNOW [01:37]	<GreenTentacle>	It was gone the same day. [01:37]	<Graestan>	:| :| :| [01:37]	<LordHydronium>	We need to create an IPA primer or something. [01:38]	<Graestan>	You can't /link to IPA/ and /not use it./ [01:38]	<Graestan>	The link IS the primer! [01:38]	<Darth_Culator>	Yikes. [01:38]	<LordHydronium>	It's all over the site, unfortunately. [01:38]	<LordHydronium>	People using whatever system they like. [01:38]	<Graestan>	Christ Almighty. [01:38]	<Graestan>	CT time later. [01:38]	<Fiolli>	Probalitious. [01:38]	<Darth_Culator>	I never noticed that. That's just... painfully dumb. [01:38]	<LordHydronium>	Fiolli: For what? [01:39]	* Darth_Culator	considers unlinking the pronunciation template as a quick fix. :-P [01:39]	<GreenTentacle>	Heh. [01:39]	<Cylka>	There are a couple of really minor reffing issues. [01:39]	<The4dotelipsis>	Keep. An IPA thingy is no cause for death. [01:39]	<Cylka>	Easy to fix in 5 minutes. [01:39]	<LordHydronium>	Yeah, we're not going to kill over bad pronunciation keys. [01:39]	<LordHydronium>	Keep. [01:39]	<The4dotelipsis>	Good ol' Chesty LaRue. [01:39]	<CavalierOne>	Keep. [01:39]	<Graestan>	I don't mean to object on the IPA thing YET. That's for later. :D [01:39]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Yeah, keep. [01:39]	<Cylka>	Keep. [01:39]	<GreenTentacle>	Keep. [01:39]	<Graestan>	Keep. [01:39]	<Graestan>	Kept. [01:39]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nelani_Dinn [01:40]	<The4dotelipsis>	Tut tut. [01:40]	* The4dotelipsis	dislikes these huge, single paragraph intros. They look right ugly. [01:40]	<TommyTreo>	I am working this out now. [01:40]	<LordHydronium>	Tommy's working on it. If it doesn't need a P&A, it doesn't, and if it does, I trust he'll add it. [01:40]	<LordHydronium>	Keep. [01:40]	<The4dotelipsis>	Anyway, what was the problem? [01:40]	<GreenTentacle>	Per Hydro. [01:40]	<The4dotelipsis>	Oh, that. I don't particularly recall her doing anything special anyway. Keep. [01:41]	<Graestan>	I've read her whole life, and I say her powers are not notable in the least. Not even her saber technique is commented on. [01:41]	<CavalierOne>	Keep if there's work being done on it. [01:41]	<Grunny>	Keep [01:41]	<Cylka>	Keep. [01:41]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Keep [01:41]	<Fiolli>	Keep [01:41]	<Graestan>	Can her intro be split up? [01:41]	<Fiolli>	Hydro: I was commenting that the whole IPA thing would be "probalicious". . . meaning problematic on this site. [01:41]	<LordHydronium>	Oh, I see [01:41]	<TommyTreo>	Thats the same thing i was thinking. I just wanted to listen again to the story to be sure there wasnt anything notable. [01:42]	<Cylka>	Well, Tommy you aren't done yet, correct? [01:42]	<LordHydronium>	I'd say Nelani's kept. /Now/ we can get to GraeRants. :P [01:42]	<Graestan>	WAIT! [01:42]	<TommyTreo>	On the last disc now. Her scene is coming up soon. [01:42]	<LordHydronium>	WAITING [01:42]	<Graestan>	Let's check out our handy little Problem-O-Meter: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/FA_maintenance_issues [01:42]	<GreenTentacle>	Yay! :) [01:43]	<Graestan>	Let's see.... Shysa. [01:43]	<LordHydronium>	Sassy! [01:43]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Fenn_Shysa [01:43]	<The4dotelipsis>	Ooh, tut tut. Naughty 4dot. [01:43]	<Graestan>	O66 and Mindor [01:43]	<LordHydronium>	Three 4dot! :O [01:43]	<LordHydronium>	*4dots [01:43]	<The4dotelipsis>	Kinda to be expected after a 3 month absence. :P [01:43]	<Darth_Culator>	Well, that's inevitable as a matter of percentages. [01:43]	<LordHydronium>	Uh, yeah, Shysa's gotta be updated. Cull keeps saying he'll do it, but he's got to actually...well, do it. [01:44]	<Graestan>	Probe, then, I say, and perhaps leave Cull a note. [01:44]	<GreenTentacle>	Probe. [01:44]	<LordHydronium>	Probe Shysa. [01:44]	<Fiolli>	Agreed. Probe. [01:44]	<CavalierOne>	Probe [01:44]	<GreenTentacle>	And the Cull note works too. [01:44]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Probe [01:44]	<Cylka>	Probe. [01:44]	<Grunny>	Probe [01:45]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Gotta go. [01:45]	<--|	GrandMoffTranner has left #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [01:45]	<GreenTentacle>	These new Inqs just don't have our dedication. :P [01:45]	<Graestan>	Next up: Jarael-of-the-Expanding-and-Contracting-Assets: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jarael [01:45]	<CavalierOne>	That's the problem with having FAs on characters in recurring monthly stories - updating needs to be a constant process. [01:45]	<LordHydronium>	Probe. [01:45]	<GreenTentacle>	I'm willing to be a bit more lenient on the monthly characters. [01:45]	<LordHydronium>	These needs-update ones are fairly straightforward. [01:46]	<Graestan>	Probe, I say. Probe! [01:46]	<Cylka>	Probe. [01:46]	<Grunny>	Probe [01:46]	<The4dotelipsis>	Probe. [01:46]	<GreenTentacle>	If they still need updating after a couple of months it's a problem. [01:46]	<Fiolli>	Agreed. Probe. [01:46]	<GreenTentacle>	Plus I can't bring myself to vote against Jarael. :P [01:46]	<Graestan>	Per GT, but that's why I think probe works. [01:47]	<GreenTentacle>	Yeah, probing should do the job. [01:47]	<CavalierOne>	Probe. [01:47]	<The4dotelipsis>	Rouse him at the name of Crispian. [01:48]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Marn_Hierogryph [01:48]	<Graestan>	Same deal. [01:48]	<The4dotelipsis>	Probe. [01:48]	<Graestan>	Probe,why not. [01:48]	<Grunny>	Six redlinks [01:48]	<The4dotelipsis>	Although it does actually have the info from that issue. [01:48]	<GreenTentacle>	Probe per the last one. [01:48]	<The4dotelipsis>	Just in a really small way. [01:48]	<Grunny>	Probe [01:48]	<Cylka>	Probe. [01:48]	<LordHydronium>	Probe Gryph. [01:48]	<CavalierOne>	Probe. [01:48]	<Graestan>	TREACHEROUS BUBBLE! http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sio_Bibble [01:48]	<The4dotelipsis>	Probe. [01:48]	<LordHydronium>	Probe. [01:49]	<Graestan>	That's an easy one, but what they hey, probe. [01:49]	<The4dotelipsis>	Although that one shouldn't be too difficult. [01:49]	<Grunny>	Probe [01:49]	<CavalierOne>	Probe. [01:49]	<Graestan>	It needs one compound sentence! [01:49]	<Cylka>	Probe. [01:49]	<GreenTentacle>	Probing can mean only one thing. Invasion! [01:49]	<The4dotelipsis>	Actually, I need to tweak a few sentences here and there to account for the extra queen. 9_9 [01:49]	<TommyTreo>	Probe. [01:49]	<LordHydronium>	BIBBLEBIBBLEBIBBLEBIBBLEBIBBLE [01:49]	<CavalierOne>	Wait ... extra queen? [01:49]	<Darth_Culator>	!bibble Bibble [01:49]	<Nuku-Nuku>	Bibble can only mean one thing... invasion. [01:49]	<Graestan>	His beard and its reservoir tip! [01:50]	<LordHydronium>	Cav: Yeah, TCW added one between Jamilla and Apailana. [01:50]	<GreenTentacle>	CavalierOne: TCW. [01:50]	<The4dotelipsis>	That comic introduced a new Queen of Naboo, didn't it? [01:50]	<Graestan>	Fuckin' TCW. [01:50]	<CavalierOne>	Oh, the humanity ... [01:50]	<GreenTentacle>	The show that continuity forgot. [01:50]	<LordHydronium>	!markov Bibble [01:50]	<The4dotelipsis>	Fucking arseclowns. What was wrong with the existing one? [01:50]	<The4dotelipsis>	GT: Switch around "Forgot" and "Continuity" in that sentence. [01:50]	<CavalierOne>	I'm so glad I'm not watching TCW at the moment ... [01:51]	<The4dotelipsis>	Speaking of which... [01:51]	<The4dotelipsis>	Probe Tambor. [01:51]	<Graestan>	Le Dent Verte: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wat_Tambor [01:51]	<LordHydronium>	A continuity disruption can mean only one thing...probation. [01:51]	<The4dotelipsis>	That one's going to be a nightmare. :( [01:51]	<Graestan>	Probe the Tooth. [01:51]	<GreenTentacle>	Probe. [01:51]	<The4dotelipsis>	Green Tooth of Youth! [01:51]	<Grunny>	Probe [01:51]	<Graestan>	Yeah, apparently Tambor's title changes like magic. [01:51]	<GreenTentacle>	And good luck with that. [01:51]	<LordHydronium>	Probe Jeffrey Tambor. [01:51]	<Cylka>	Probe. [01:51]	<The4dotelipsis>	Although apparently the info is there, too. [01:51]	<TommyTreo>	Probe [01:52]	<The4dotelipsis>	But in non-FourDot form. Which is simply unacceptable. [01:52]	<CavalierOne>	Another TCW fuck-up? [01:52]	<Graestan>	So, did everyone have fun playing with the Problem-o-Meter? [01:52]	<GreenTentacle>	CavalierOne: How did you guess? :P [01:52]	<CavalierOne>	It's beginning to become a pattern. [01:52]	* Graestan	would like to thank GT for the Magic Problem-o-Meter [01:52]	<Darth_Culator>	But of all, the most reckless, or so I am told, was Tambor the CIS Emir. [01:53]	* Darth_Culator	always loved that ditty. [01:53]	<LordHydronium>	OK, it's almost an hour in, and we haven't actually gotten to the main problem. :P [01:53]	<LordHydronium>	So let's give Grae the floor for starters. [01:53]	<GreenTentacle>	Rant time. [01:54]	<Graestan>	WAHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [01:54]	<The4dotelipsis>	Pull up a muffin, sit yourself down. [01:54]	<Graestan>	*SIT DOWWWWWWWWWN!* [01:54]	* GreenTentacle	puts hand up. [01:54]	<LordHydronium>	I've been sitting down for an hour. [01:54]	<GreenTentacle>	I ate my muffin. [01:54]	<LordHydronium>	That's the problem. [01:54]	<Graestan>	As I said before, "Do Your Damn Job" is moot now because everyone's been scrambling like the Battle of Midway around here, and I *really appreciate it.* Thank you, everyone. [01:55]	-->|	ChackJadson (n=chatzill@c-68-50-107-144.hsd1.md.comcast.net) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [01:55]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-inquisitorius +o ChackJadson by GreenTentacle [01:55]	<ChackJadson>	Shoot, I forgot, sorry :( [01:55]	<Graestan>	We got our new members, too, so that's that. [01:55]	<LordHydronium>	No apologies allowed. You go in the Box. [01:55]	<Graestan>	It's time for the Revolution. [01:55]	<GreenTentacle>	You missed all the probing. [01:55]	<ChackJadson>	Ok, Grunny and Cylka? [01:55]	* Graestan	pulls out his Prince CD [01:56]	<LordHydronium>	You say you want a revolution? [01:56]	<GreenTentacle>	And GMT. [01:56]	<ChackJadson>	Cool [01:56]	<LordHydronium>	Well, you know, we all want to change the world. [01:56]	<GreenTentacle>	But he left already. [01:56]	<Graestan>	First up, I want to hear from Hydro about his thingie before I mention my thingie. [01:56]	<CavalierOne>	World don't need changing. Only the people in it. [01:56]	<LordHydronium>	OK, let me show you my thingie. [01:56]	<LordHydronium>	It's not too long. [01:56]	<CavalierOne>	O_O [01:56]	<LordHydronium>	But I think it'll really make people happy. [01:56]	* GreenTentacle	laughs. [01:56]	<ChackJadson>	lol [01:56]	<The4dotelipsis>	"I know what I am talking about when I am talking about the revolutions. The people who read the books go to the people who can't read the books, the poor people, and say, "We have to have a change." So, the poor people make the change, ah? And then, the people who read the books, they all sit around the big polished tables, and they talk and talk and talk and eat and eat and eat, eh? But... [01:56]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/User:Lord_Hydronium/Temp [01:56]	<The4dotelipsis>	...what has happened to the poor people? They're dead! That's your revolution. Shhh... So, please, don't tell me about revolutions! And what happens afterwards? The same fucking thing starts all over again!" [01:57]	<LordHydronium>	Sure, 4dot's text buries it. :P [01:57]	<The4dotelipsis>	And then can I mention my thingie? [01:57]	<The4dotelipsis>	Sorry. :P [01:57]	<CavalierOne>	Too ... many ... thingies ... [01:57]	<GreenTentacle>	Next person to mention their thingie gets kicked. :P [01:57]	<LordHydronium>	Anyway, read this: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/User:Lord_Hydronium/Temp [01:57]	<The4dotelipsis>	I read it. I like it. But I generally operate as a lone wolf. :P [01:58]	<The4dotelipsis>	But, sure. If we want to make a concerted effort to get some stuff off the page quick, I'm there. [01:58]	<GreenTentacle>	I think many of us probably do something like this already. [01:58]	<LordHydronium>	4dot: Well, my idea of how we do this, in a practical sense is: [01:58]	<Graestan>	Hydro, aren't there any titles we can give these levels? [01:58]	<LordHydronium>	We create a list on the Inq page sorting the articles. [01:58]	<ChackJadson>	GT: yeah, to a degree [01:58]	<GreenTentacle>	But we have a tendency to prioritize differently. [01:58]	<LordHydronium>	Then, every Inq can choose which of them in which category to focus on. [01:58]	<LordHydronium>	Well, sort of. :P [01:58]	<LordHydronium>	Ideally, we all go with High. [01:58]	<LordHydronium>	And the other direction for Kill. [01:59]	<LordHydronium>	The idea is to focus our efforts on the areas that will best clear the nom page. [01:59]	<LordHydronium>	So if we want to do this, I propose in this meeting we go through the 43 noms and sort them out. [01:59]	<The4dotelipsis>	Good. As long as we also take the order of nomination into account. [01:59]	<ChackJadson>	Per Fourdot [01:59]	<LordHydronium>	And to explain Grae's comment, my alternate names are "Fuck, Marry, Kill". :P [01:59]	<Graestan>	Wow, I see my future. [02:00]	<LordHydronium>	4dot: Indeed. Articles that have been there longer get higher priority. [02:00]	<Darth_Culator>	:| [02:00]	<LordHydronium>	And anything that's been there less than a week would take Medium until the next week. [02:00]	<ChackJadson>	lol @ Grae [02:00]	<LordHydronium>	If we want to do that. [02:00]	<GreenTentacle>	Yeah, per the punctuation symbol. [02:00]	<CavalierOne>	The only problem I see here is that we could be accused of a sort of nepotism. The noms that are easier to clear will be from Inqs and older contributors. We could be accused of serving our own interests to get our own stuff FAed. [02:00]	<LordHydronium>	Ideally, we would resort these out every so often.. [02:00]	<LordHydronium>	Cav: Frankly, I don't care what we're accused of. [02:01]	<LordHydronium>	Right now, we either ignore everything, or we ignore some things. [02:01]	<LordHydronium>	I'd rather get things off the nom page than be egalitarian. [02:01]	<GreenTentacle>	It'd be good to see some articles cleared quickly. [02:01]	<The4dotelipsis>	Cav: Well, that's because good writers are generally Inqs. [02:01]	<CavalierOne>	Hydro: Oh, I agree. I'm for the proposal. Just pointing out a possible backlash avenue. [02:01]	<LordHydronium>	I know. I'm just saying we don't give a shit. :P [02:01]	<GreenTentacle>	Even the ones that have no major problems and can be read in 10 minutes are there for a month at the moment. [02:01]	<LordHydronium>	Per GT. [02:01]	<The4dotelipsis>	We must brave the scorns of whips and time and whatever. [02:01]	<LordHydronium>	That's the root of this. [02:01]	<Fiolli>	LH: Are you planning this as a one time event or a recurring policy? [02:01]	<Graestan>	Cav: I was thinking that it would be a more sink-or-swim version of what we already have going. [02:01]	<LordHydronium>	We have lots of noms that people just aren't reading because there's too many. [02:02]	<LordHydronium>	Fiolli: Recurring until noms are back to manageable numbers again. [02:02]	<Fiolli>	What are you calling "manageable?" [02:02]	<Graestan>	I mean, people read noms by good, easygoing writers more quickly by default anyhow. [02:02]	<Fiolli>	20? 25? [02:02]	<Graestan>	20. [02:02]	<LordHydronium>	20 would be nice. [02:02]	<Graestan>	And that's where my idea comes in. [02:02]	<Fiolli>	Ok. I have some input on this. [02:02]	<CavalierOne>	Has it ever been that low in recent months? [02:02]	<Fiolli>	No, it hasn't. [02:03]	<The4dotelipsis>	No way, dude. [02:03]	<LordHydronium>	Cav: It went down to 30 or so some time back, then swung back up [02:03]	<The4dotelipsis>	Like, I can't remember when it was less than 30. [02:03]	<Graestan>	Too many noobs nomming, not enough Inqs. [02:03]	<The4dotelipsis>	Well, frankly, we want more noobs. [02:03]	<Graestan>	Yes, more noobs is better. [02:03]	<Fiolli>	May I have the floor for a second? [02:03]	<LordHydronium>	Noobs are fine. It's just much better if we don't focus all our energies on them. [02:03]	<Graestan>	But letting the Inqs handle it better helps. [02:03]	* Fiolli	just doesn't want to interrupt. [02:03]	<LordHydronium>	Go ahead, Fiolli. We all do it anyway. :P [02:04]	<Fiolli>	Ok. I have a few quick remarks to consider. I'll list them off, then we can rehash them. [02:04]	<Fiolli>	1. How are we going to have an Inq meeting to determine which ones to focus on when we can't even get a majority to attend a regular Inqmoot? [02:04]	<Fiolli>	2. Sometimes, I see something in passing that requires an objection (infobox, etc.) and then do not necessarily have the chance to finish Inqing the article. So, my voice is then irrelevant? [02:05]	<LordHydronium>	I don't think we need a full Inqmoot. [02:05]	<ChackJadson>	1-We got a lot tonight... [02:05]	<Graestan>	No, me neithe. [02:05]	<Fiolli>	3. This process favors frequent writers who are always popping noms out. Sometimes, they are not as good as we might think. Everyone has a down day. Just because "we can trust them" doesn't mean that it the article does not need a fair and even view. [02:05]	<Graestan>	Just a handful (4 or so) of present Inqs. [02:05]	<LordHydronium>	Fiolli: We give it exactly the same view we'd give any article. [02:05]	<LordHydronium>	The point of this is that we all do it to the same articles. [02:05]	<Fiolli>	The process, to me seems utterly unfair. But, as Cav said. . . 4. More on fairness. Because frequent nommers are favored, it almost seems like a fast-tracking. Those individuals will receive much more attention, because they are popping out more noms and, therefore, getting more through. It is favoritism and the people who we are trying to groom for success are left out to dry because we... [02:05]	<Fiolli>	..."will eventually get to you." [02:05]	<Fiolli>	FAs are not about candy for your user page. [02:06]	<ChackJadson>	I share that concern as well [02:06]	<LordHydronium>	Well, like I said, right now we're ignoring everyone. [02:06]	<LordHydronium>	It's equal. [02:06]	<Fiolli>	I don't care if a user wants their noms fast tracked because "we like them" [02:06]	<LordHydronium>	But it's detrimental to everyone. [02:06]	<Fiolli>	I don't favor anyone. No one gets preferential treatment. [02:06]	<Fiolli>	6. "Kill" level is unfair. I learned what was expected and demanded by re-FAing Manaan. That probably would have been a "kill" according to this system. But, I was willing to work on the article and Inqs were willing to work with me. As a result, I think we've made that article a great example of FA restoration. Assuming that "just because it is not very good" initially does not mean it... [02:06]	<Fiolli>	...cannot be salvaged. Again fairness. [02:06]	<LordHydronium>	I can be salvaged. [02:06]	<Darth_Culator>	I believe in hating everyone equally. [02:07]	<LordHydronium>	But it doesn't need to sit on the Inq page until then. [02:07]	<Fiolli>	7. In the end, the Inq will lose its integrity and weight from a process such as this. We lose it because it becomes a "crony" club of whomever "we trust" with the noms. [02:07]	<LordHydronium>	This is for really bad stuff, I'm talking. [02:07]	<LordHydronium>	"OMG I liek Mace Windy" stuff [02:07]	<Fiolli>	Then, start removal votes. [02:07]	<LordHydronium>	That's the point. [02:07]	<ChackJadson>	Is there anything up now that would qualify for kill, Hydro? [02:07]	<Fiolli>	Just don't start favoring some users over others. [02:07]	<LordHydronium>	It just shows us where we should be removing things. [02:07]	<LordHydronium>	No one said anything about favoring users. [02:07]	<Fiolli>	Fairness has been a model of the Inq that I have appreciated from the beginning. [02:08]	<Fiolli>	Just because you or I wrote it, LH, does not mean it should be "focused on to get it off the page" [02:08]	<Graestan>	It's always been a crony club, and that's part of how things just work. I've learned the ropes, so've the rest of us. [02:08]	<LordHydronium>	Fiolli: Why not? [02:08]	<The4dotelipsis>	It's more likely to get of quickly. Provided it's relatively short. [02:08]	<TommyTreo>	I actually seek out the less frequent nommers' articles to read. [02:08]	<Fiolli>	Because our noms should be subjected to the same level of Inqing as all others. [02:08]	<The4dotelipsis>	We /are/ taking article length into account here, yes? [02:08]	<LordHydronium>	If there's one article by Acky, and one article by JoeUser, which do we expect would require less attention, time, and objections? [02:09]	<LordHydronium>	Fiolli: No one said we give it any less attention. [02:09]	<Fiolli>	That's the way it seems. [02:09]	<Graestan>	Joe who? [02:09]	<Graestan>	:P [02:09]	<LordHydronium>	We're not giving any articles a free pass. [02:09]	<ChackJadson>	lol [02:09]	<GreenTentacle>	A 1000 word 4dot requires little attention. [02:09]	<TommyTreo>	I rarely read one simply because the nommer is "tried & true" [02:09]	<GreenTentacle>	That's not favoritism, just experience. [02:09]	<Fiolli>	If we start popping out more because ours are getting through it will perpetually bog down the "fast track" [02:09]	<LordHydronium>	Exactly. What GT said. [02:09]	<Fiolli>	Sorry, but this is complete unfairness, in my opinion. [02:10]	<LordHydronium>	Right now the nom page is unfair to everyone. [02:10]	<Fiolli>	Classifying articles and only focusing on one classification is not fair to anyone, frankly. [02:10]	<GreenTentacle>	We have to try to get them moving in some way. [02:10]	<Fiolli>	The current system just requires that people get off their rumps and work. [02:10]	<GreenTentacle>	The queue has shrunk by over a month so far this year. [02:10]	<Fiolli>	That's because people aren't Inqing. [02:10]	<LordHydronium>	If five Inqs all focus together on a 1,000 word 4dot article, there's a much better chance it will be gone in five days than if they all focus on a newbie's article on Qui-Gon Jinn. [02:10]	<Graestan>	We've been around and around that tree, though. [02:10]	<Graestan>	We can't whip people anymore. I have given up on it. [02:10]	<The4dotelipsis>	We've been wanting to get people to get off their rumps since the Inq began. It works infrequently. [02:10]	<GreenTentacle>	It's not just lack of Inqing. [02:10]	<LordHydronium>	Fiolli: It's also because when they do Inq, they're spreading it over 43 separate noms. [02:11]	<GreenTentacle>	Exactly. [02:11]	<Graestan>	Yes, it'll all be easier as we pare it down. [02:11]	<GreenTentacle>	When we do all try to make an effort, we read different articles and none of them pass. [02:11]	<Fiolli>	So, we are going to "temporarily" ignore the "users we don't quite like enough" so we can clear the page? That's insanity, to me. [02:11]	<The4dotelipsis>	Oh, just while I remember, when we get to my thing there are 2 things I want to talk about. [02:11]	<The4dotelipsis>	Fair warning. :P [02:11]	<Graestan>	No, that's not it at all. [02:11]	<LordHydronium>	Why do you keep acting like this is a vendetta against users? [02:11]	<LordHydronium>	We focus efforts on articles we believe we can move faster. [02:11]	<Fiolli>	I'm not saying its a vendetta against users. Its favoritism toward a few users. [02:12]	<LordHydronium>	More established FA writers /tend/ to be that way. [02:12]	<Fiolli>	I bet we wouldn't list more than five names. [02:12]	<LordHydronium>	Length is another matter. [02:12]	<Fiolli>	(of /frequent/ FAers) [02:12]	<LordHydronium>	It's not just users. [02:12]	<TommyTreo>	I dont agree with respect to myself, Fiolli. I cant speak for others on that though. [02:12]	<GreenTentacle>	A short article by a new user could be equally fast-tracked. [02:12]	<LordHydronium>	If Hav writes another Corran, we don't all focus on that while letting 1,000 word articles languish. [02:12]	<LordHydronium>	That's just poor use of resources. [02:13]	<LordHydronium>	Exactly. What GT said. [02:13]	<Fiolli>	Then why does this have to be official? [02:13]	<GreenTentacle>	We already tend to let Havac's fester for a while. [02:13]	<LordHydronium>	Fiolli: It's a list for our reference. [02:13]	<LordHydronium>	So we know which ones everyone is focusing on. [02:13]	<Fiolli>	Why can't we just have Inqs working the IRC channel mentioning. . . "hey, go check this out..." [02:13]	<GreenTentacle>	They're good, but just require so much time. [02:13]	<LordHydronium>	Because that doesn't work. [02:13]	<LordHydronium>	It's what we've been doing. [02:13]	<LordHydronium>	It's not good enough. [02:13]	<Fiolli>	Then it becomes an official policy. That's what I'm against. [02:13]	<Fiolli>	Sorry, but I don't trust any user more than others. [02:13]	<The4dotelipsis>	It's just a tool, not a policy. [02:13]	<Graestan>	It doesn't, no. Hydro always asks while I'm busy talking to someone or something. :P [02:13]	<TommyTreo>	I had suggested a while back that in situations like Corran or Wraith, 5 of us commit to getting it FAed. [02:13]	<The4dotelipsis>	People don't have to adhere to it. [02:13]	<LordHydronium>	Exactly. What 4dot said. [02:14]	<LordHydronium>	You keep focusing on users. [02:14]	<LordHydronium>	This is about articles. [02:14]	<The4dotelipsis>	And trust doesn't come into it. [02:14]	<The4dotelipsis>	You still give the article as hard a time as you would any other. [02:14]	<Fiolli>	Hydro: You said that it would be based upon the "users who wrote the article. [02:14]	<Fiolli>	That is unfair. Period. [02:14]	<Fiolli>	That's my issue. [02:14]	<LordHydronium>	I said: "Articles that will go to the queue easily. Short articles, articles without objections, articles with lots of votes already, articles from proven nominators who we believe won't have many objections. Articles that, if just five Inqs read it, could be done in about as long as it takes to do that. " [02:14]	<LordHydronium>	That's what I said. [02:15]	<LordHydronium>	It's about articles that we think can be moved quickly. Not because we give it a pass, but because it's better to start with, or shorter. [02:15]	<Graestan>	I'd just say, base it on multiple criteria, just get a quorum of Inqs to mark each one. With numbers comes some semblance of legitimacy through democracy. [02:15]	<Fiolli>	"Proven nominators" means that we are screening the users to cherry-pick what we are focusing on. [02:15]	<LordHydronium>	"Proven nominators" is /one/ of four separate criteria. [02:15]	<Fiolli>	I don't think it should even be in consideration. [02:15]	<LordHydronium>	Why not? [02:15]	<Fiolli>	I've stated why. [02:16]	<LordHydronium>	I trust that a 4dot article will require fewer objections than some guy who just arrived on the site and is still learning the ropes. [02:16]	<Fiolli>	Why should you, or Acky, or I be favored over a new person? What if we have a bad day or the noob is great? [02:16]	<LordHydronium>	I don't really care if that isn't egalitarian of me, it's common sense. [02:16]	<Fiolli>	What about the merits of the article? [02:16]	<LordHydronium>	If we have a bad day we get objections. [02:16]	<Fiolli>	Egalitarian is the whole point of the Inq! [02:16]	<Fiolli>	We are supposed to be impartial. [02:16]	<LordHydronium>	Cool, so we let all the articles suffer impartially. [02:16]	<GreenTentacle>	If somebody reads the noob's article and it comes across clean, they could presumably suggest that it get higher priority. [02:17]	<LordHydronium>	Thank you, GT. [02:17]	<Fiolli>	Look, I've said my peace. If the body of Inqs don't care what I've said, then let them vote. It's up to this body to chose how we do this. [02:17]	<LordHydronium>	One of the criteria is also number of votes. [02:17]	<Graestan>	Let me state here and now that while I have my doubts, I am willing to give this a chance for the simple reason that we need to do /something/ and this looks like it'll work out at least a few of the kinks. [02:17]	<LordHydronium>	If three Inqs have read and article and approved, it doesn't matter who it's by, it's smarter to focus on it. [02:17]	<ChackJadson>	Per Grae [02:18]	<CavalierOne>	Per Grae. [02:18]	<GreenTentacle>	Yeah. [02:18]	<TommyTreo>	Per Hydro. [02:18]	<GreenTentacle>	Probably not perfect, but worth a shot. [02:18]	<LordHydronium>	So, at the end of this meeting, should we go through the noms and sort them out? [02:18]	<Fiolli>	Ok. My vote is still "no," however. [02:18]	<ChackJadson>	So, want to make it an official vote now? [02:18]	<Fiolli>	Let's do it, then. [02:18]	<LordHydronium>	Oh, guess we should do that first. :P [02:19]	<Graestan>	I say yes, why not. Toprawa also gave me his vote of yes on this one. [02:19]	<Darth_Culator>	Very yes. [02:19]	<LordHydronium>	Aye. Obviously. :P [02:19]	<ChackJadson>	I'll say yes, on the condition that we can reevaluate this next meeting if need be [02:19]	<Fiolli>	No. [02:19]	<Graestan>	PerChack, of course. [02:19]	<TommyTreo>	Per Chack. [02:19]	<GreenTentacle>	Yes, per Chack. [02:19]	<Graestan>	We are all about progress and quality control. [02:19]	<The4dotelipsis>	Hello Inqvision Article Contest! Melbourne gives Hydro's proposal...12 points! [02:19]	<GreenTentacle>	That was probably lost on most people. [02:20]	<GreenTentacle>	They're the lucky ones. :P [02:20]	<The4dotelipsis>	Indeed. :P [02:20]	<ChackJadson>	haha [02:20]	<CavalierOne>	Definitely. [02:20]	<Darth_Culator>	I only know about it because the bastards preempt Doctor Who sometimes. [02:20]	<Darth_Culator>	BASTARDS [02:20]	<The4dotelipsis>	Cyprus gives 12 points to...Greece! [02:20]	<GreenTentacle>	No more Wogan. :( [02:20]	* Graestan	does not recognize Cyprus! >:( [02:21]	<The4dotelipsis>	Graham Norton is a suitable replacement, I feel. [02:21]	<The4dotelipsis>	Although, a much louder one. [02:21]	<CavalierOne>	United Kingdom - nil points! [02:21]	<Darth_Culator>	Moving on. [02:21]	<CavalierOne>	Cos our entries are shit. [02:21]	<The4dotelipsis>	Is it my turn yet? [02:21]	<GreenTentacle>	Who would have thought the French and Germans disliked us? :P [02:21]	<Graestan>	Wait! [02:21]	<Graestan>	I want a turn first, to build on Hydro's: [02:22]	<The4dotelipsis>	You're OIC, Grae. :P [02:22]	<LordHydronium>	Grae's building on my thingy. *snerk* [02:22]	<CavalierOne>	He's extending your thingie. [02:22]	<Graestan>	Harrar and some others spoke tio me. [02:22]	<Graestan>	I'd like to propose a waiting list, perhaps to be worked in now or perhaps in the future, after Hydro's plan either works like magic or runs its course otherwise. This was mentioned to me by another Inquisitor as well as several regular users. The idea would be that only 20 noms would be allowed on the page, being worked on, at a time, and everything else would wait, basically, in a... [02:22]	<Graestan>	...queue.This would ensure that what's there is what's being worked on, and could be worked into Hydro's idea. [02:23]	<The4dotelipsis>	Hmm. [02:23]	<ChackJadson>	I don't like it. Like, at all. Sorry, but I vote no on that [02:23]	<CavalierOne>	Sounds complex. A list to get on a list? [02:23]	<Graestan>	It's very simple, folks: we only look at, in our vestments, the articles on the page at the time, and not the ones on the waiting list. [02:23]	<The4dotelipsis>	It's interesting, but I would like to see Hydro's idea have a little go on its Pat Malone first. [02:24]	<Graestan>	Meanwhile, those with articles on the waiting lists can get copy-edits, pre-reviews, etc. from people to assure success. [02:24]	<ChackJadson>	That seems overly complex (and intimidating to noobs) [02:24]	<LordHydronium>	Yeah, that seems a bit heavy on the process. [02:24]	<ChackJadson>	Anyway, let's at least see Hydro's idea first [02:24]	<The4dotelipsis>	I'm not completely opposed to it, but perhaps next meeting? [02:24]	<Graestan>	It'd be a tool for us, to focus us on our work, and to them, to give them a chance not to have their articles languish on the page for being crap. [02:24]	<LordHydronium>	Per 4dot. [02:24]	<The4dotelipsis>	Maybe we could put a cut off line on the nom page itself after 20 noms. [02:24]	<Graestan>	Alright, later, then. [02:25]	<TommyTreo>	Per Chack again. [02:25]	<Graestan>	Ooo, that sounds good. [02:25]	<The4dotelipsis>	Like, those other ones could get votes, but the focus is on the 20 or something. I dunno. [02:25]	<The4dotelipsis>	Food for thought. [02:25]	<Graestan>	A floating line of sorts. [02:25]	<Fiolli>	I like the idea of a waiting list. [02:25]	<Fiolli>	Kind of like an FA queue. [02:25]	<CavalierOne>	I had a semi-similar idea but for massive noms, like Lando and Nym, to have a separate page to stop clogging up the main FAN. [02:25]	<Graestan>	That would be a fine mixture. [02:25]	<LordHydronium>	Now Cav's I agree with. [02:25]	<LordHydronium>	That would have been useful when Dooku was taking up literally half the page. [02:26]	<LordHydronium>	It physically blocks lower noms out. [02:26]	<ChackJadson>	Meh, still seems kinda overly complex, but it does have its merits, I suppose [02:26]	<GreenTentacle>	I'd be in favour of us focusing on the older noms on the page. [02:26]	<The4dotelipsis>	Maybe if some people could mock up some plans for these kinds of things? [02:26]	<The4dotelipsis>	Like, sample pages, and stuff. [02:26]	<GreenTentacle>	But a separate list seems too complicated. [02:26]	<Graestan>	I fear that the massive noms would go to a page that would--essentially--be Where Noms Go To Die. [02:26]	<Fiolli>	What if we had subpages for all the FANs similar to SWF? [02:27]	<ChackJadson>	Link, by any chance? [02:27]	* Graestan	is unfamiliar with SWF but has been all for subpages before. [02:27]	<Fiolli>	http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/SWF:FAN [02:27]	<Graestan>	I mean, we could just start the article nom individual pages right off. [02:27]	<LordHydronium>	Grae: I think if anything reaches the point where it's that big, people won't forget about it easily. [02:27]	<TommyTreo>	Why dont we work in pairs? If one of us chooses an article, nudge another Inq to review it with you, I dont know... [02:28]	<The4dotelipsis>	Eh... to the subpages. [02:28]	<LordHydronium>	Well, the triage is to do that for every Inq. [02:28]	<LordHydronium>	At least, in theory. [02:28]	<Darth_Culator>	"We're twice as smart of the people of SWFanon! Just tell us your idea, and we'll vote for it!" [02:29]	<CavalierOne>	Wait a minute - how did this happen? We're smarter than this! [02:29]	* Darth_Culator	keeps stalling the room. Sorry. [02:30]	<The4dotelipsis>	So, what are we doing? [02:30]	<Graestan>	Okay, waiting lists to be discussed later. [02:30]	<Graestan>	Fourdot's turn. [02:30]	<The4dotelipsis>	Oh, goody. [02:30]	* Graestan	does the hoe down [02:30]	<Fiolli>	Wait, are we having a real discussion about changes or are we just bantering? [02:30]	<The4dotelipsis>	Firstly, just a little request, which has to do with article focus. [02:30]	<Graestan>	We voted on one change, and it will be given a chance, Fiollu. [02:31]	<Graestan>	Fiolli* [02:31]	<The4dotelipsis>	Now, I know a lot of writers have fellow writers that they trust and respect, and that people make a lot of requests for copyedits and reviews and all that. [02:31]	<LordHydronium>	Let's get that ho down. [02:31]	<The4dotelipsis>	And generally, I'm fine with it. [02:31]	<The4dotelipsis>	But I just think that sometimes, responding to the review requests of users on IRC results in article #32 getting a whole lot of Inq votes, while article #5 gets nothing. [02:32]	<The4dotelipsis>	And to my mind, that's not entirely fair. [02:32]	<Graestan>	Mmm. [02:32]	<The4dotelipsis>	So, basically, I'm just asking if we could tone down the article requests, and similarly, ask users not to ask for these reviews. [02:32]	<The4dotelipsis>	Just in the interest of general fairness. [02:32]	<The4dotelipsis>	Is this unreasonable, or do people kinda feel the same way about this? [02:33]	<ChackJadson>	Sounds good to me [02:33]	<Graestan>	I tend to seek things out I'll want to read regardless of who nommed what. [02:33]	<TommyTreo>	Thats cool. [02:33]	<The4dotelipsis>	Yeah, that I don't mind. [02:33]	<LordHydronium>	I generally don't really pay attention to requests. [02:33]	<Graestan>	I also abort many a review when I see the intro and already have three heart attacks. [02:33]	<The4dotelipsis>	And I mean, with the article focus, we might be looking at article #32 before #5. [02:33]	<Graestan>	Ah,gotcha. [02:33]	<Graestan>	Earlier is better. [02:33]	<Graestan>	Get it gone. [02:33]	<The4dotelipsis>	But in terms of personal requests...eh. Let's not. [02:34]	<CavalierOne>	Agreed. I usually respond to review requests that may need one or two votes to pass, which corresponds to part of the Triage plan. [02:34]	<The4dotelipsis>	And that's just being considerate to the nominator, who sometimes has to check one article ad nauseum for 3 months or so. [02:34]	<Graestan>	Well, part of the requesting is that I and some others maintain our activity in times of RL business and so forth only through that. [02:34]	<The4dotelipsis>	Anyway, now that that's off my chest, my proposal. [02:34]	<The4dotelipsis>	I call it INQCON. [02:35]	<CavalierOne>	Like DEFCON? [02:35]	<The4dotelipsis>	Exactly. [02:35]	<Fiolli>	lol [02:35]	<LordHydronium>	I guess I do make requests, but only for other people. And as part of a "this only needs a few more votes" or "this is a good read with no problems" thing. [02:35]	<The4dotelipsis>	Now I understand that Top has made his objections on the Moot page, and yeah, I totally understand his grievance, but I don't feel that I explained the concept properly. [02:35]	<The4dotelipsis>	Basically, this is what would happen: In addition to (0 Inqs/0 Users/0 Total), users would add /INQCON 0) [02:36]	<The4dotelipsis>	Now, every time an Inq becomes involved on a nomination, be it a support vote of a set of objections, they add to the INQCON number. [02:36]	<The4dotelipsis>	Now, to respond to Acky's grievance, an Inq would only do this if they have read the whole article, or intend to make more objections, eventually seeing the nom through to a support vote, ideally. [02:37]	<TommyTreo>	It seems redundatnt. [02:37]	<CavalierOne>	So, if the number was 5, an Inq qould not have to worry about reviewing it and wasting a resource? [02:37]	<The4dotelipsis>	If they wish to stop their involvement with a given nom, they can bring the number down. [02:37]	<CavalierOne>	*would [02:37]	<The4dotelipsis>	Cav: Precisely. [02:37]	<LordHydronium>	Tommy: I know sometimes I make objections without intending to read it through, but just because I noticed something wrong. [02:37]	<The4dotelipsis>	Although an Inq is welcome to get involved on an INQCON 5. [02:37]	<LordHydronium>	Someone might think I was on the nom. [02:38]	<The4dotelipsis>	Basically, this is so that an INQ can look at the FAN page's table of contents, see the INQCON levels, review accordingly. INQCON 4's will obviously be the priority. [02:38]	<ChackJadson>	Interesting [02:38]	<TommyTreo>	In that case, I see where this is going. [02:38]	<The4dotelipsis>	This is meant to serve as a supplement or an enhancement to Hydro's plan. [02:38]	<CavalierOne>	I think the basic idea has merit. I know that, when looking at articles to Inq, I generally discount ones that have Inqs working on them and don;t need my vote to pass. [02:38]	<The4dotelipsis>	So, "4 Inqs" doesn't mean "INQCON 4" [02:38]	<Graestan>	I worry about this. [02:38]	<The4dotelipsis>	Sometimes, "0 Inqs" could be "INQCON 5" [02:39]	<ChackJadson>	0 Inq votes? [02:39]	<The4dotelipsis>	Yeah. But five Inqs objecting. [02:39]	<ChackJadson>	Ok [02:39]	<LordHydronium>	I like this. [02:39]	<The4dotelipsis>	With a view to eventually supporting, if the problems are solved. [02:39]	<TommyTreo>	Do we impose a timeframe once an Inq is committed? [02:39]	<The4dotelipsis>	No. [02:40]	<CavalierOne>	The timeframe would be dependent on the nominator fixing any objections I would imagine. [02:40]	<Graestan>	The problem can crop up that sometimes an Inq has to just leave a review after striking their votes. Would the level go back down? [02:40]	<The4dotelipsis>	Yeah, absolutely. [02:40]	<Fiolli>	Additional objections to a nom with INQCON 5 is permitted, still, correct? (If necessary) [02:40]	<The4dotelipsis>	Grae: Yes. [02:40]	<LordHydronium>	Grae: I think what 4dot's saying is that, people voluntarily add a number to it. [02:40]	<Graestan>	I suppose it's not an issue there. [02:40]	<LordHydronium>	So if someone decides they're leaving it, they take the number down [02:40]	<The4dotelipsis>	Yes, the Inq making the review adds the number. [02:41]	<Graestan>	I still have some concerns in general, that this system brings to the forefront. [02:41]	<The4dotelipsis>	Or subtracts it. [02:41]	<ChackJadson>	Could someone respond to Fiolli's concern, because that is a good question? [02:41]	<The4dotelipsis>	Fiolli: Absolutely. [02:41]	<The4dotelipsis>	This is in no way a rule or a policy. Simply a tool. [02:41]	<Fiolli>	Ok. Sometimes even five Inqs miss something if an article was poor to start with. [02:41]	<Fiolli>	Fair enough. [02:41]	<LordHydronium>	Yes, this discussion is full of tools. [02:42]	<LordHydronium>	waitaminute... [02:42]	<ChackJadson>	... [02:42]	* Fiolli	facepalms [02:42]	<The4dotelipsis>	I realize that some Inqs will feel the need to make these extra reviews. I have no problem with that. [02:42]	<Graestan>	I keep getting the sense that at times, things are being signed off on by us in the hopes that the other users caught as much as we would. I fear this could add to that effect in a sense. [02:43]	<Graestan>	I don't think I can stress enough the importance of five individual reviews. When I see one or two names tacked on at the end right before something is queued, I wonder whether the article was actually scanned more than cursorily. This is what I fear the new emphasis will encourage. [02:43]	<The4dotelipsis>	Yes, that is a problem. [02:43]	<CavalierOne>	Unfortunately, Grae, that's a matter of trust in the individuals responsible. [02:44]	<The4dotelipsis>	I don't particularly see a way around it, other than to urge Inquisitors not to rely on other reviews. [02:44]	<LordHydronium>	Yeah, I don't think we can regulate whether people will or won't be thorough. [02:44]	<Graestan>	I suppose I really just wanted to say my piece on it. I imagine this, like the other implementations, will be more apparent when we look back on the coming month(s) at the next Inqmoot. [02:44]	<ChackJadson>	Yeah [02:44]	<LordHydronium>	The idea of the Inqs is that we trust that people /will/. [02:44]	<The4dotelipsis>	If that does become a problem, though, by all means we can scrap it. [02:44]	<LordHydronium>	If we thought we were all just giving everything a free pass, our entire point would be moot. [02:45]	<The4dotelipsis>	But, really, I hope that Inquisitors can rise above that. [02:45]	<Graestan>	Alright. [02:45]	<Graestan>	So, we should vote on this measure's adoption, provisionally until next time or we feel it isn't working. [02:45]	<LordHydronium>	If we're voting, I give it an aye. [02:46]	<CavalierOne>	Aye, with the caveat of a review at next meeting to discuss its effectiveness. [02:46]	<TommyTreo>	Yes. [02:46]	<Graestan>	Toprawa left an oppose vote. I'm afraid I'd like to oppose for now, but I do have an open mind about it--I'd like to see if Hydro's plan will work on its own in the meantime before the one that worries me is tried out. [02:46]	<Fiolli>	And the caveat that other Inqs have this explained to them. [02:47]	<Fiolli>	Ok. Let's vote! [02:47]	<The4dotelipsis>	Fiolli: If this passes, there will be a separate Inq forum for it. [02:47]	<Fiolli>	Ok. [02:47]	<The4dotelipsis>	Which could also be used as an open discussion of its effectiveness as it progresses. [02:47]	<Graestan>	I mean, I don't really think I'll be planning on asking the community to reorganize the FAN at the next Mofference after today, and in that I believe we have plenty of time to try things, one at a time. [02:47]	<The4dotelipsis>	I'm not going to vote, since it's my idea. [02:48]	<Fiolli>	Abstention. [02:48]	<Fiolli>	I just don't know either way. [02:48]	<Fiolli>	I'm willing to try it. Not sure if we need both changes at once. [02:49]	<ChackJadson>	Per Fiolli on the "two changes at once" thing [02:49]	<Darth_Culator>	Yeah. [02:49]	<Darth_Culator>	Two changes at once is... unscientific. [02:49]	<ChackJadson>	I'm going to vote no for now, at least [02:50]	<Darth_Culator>	Hydro's thing first. One variable at a time. [02:50]	<The4dotelipsis>	Well, we can always vote whether we want it or not, and then vote whether it's implemented now or later. [02:50]	<GreenTentacle>	I quite like the idea. [02:50]	<LordHydronium>	Hm, I like that idea. [02:50]	<GreenTentacle>	But one thing at a time. [02:50]	<Graestan>	Then I'd vote that yeah, I am more than happy to try, but next time. [02:50]	<Darth_Culator>	Per Grae. [02:50]	<LordHydronium>	I'm going to change to a "try later". [02:50]	<CavalierOne>	As I said, the idea has merit, but changing wholesale could be detrimental. One thing at a time. [02:51]	<Grunny>	Per Grae [02:51]	<TommyTreo>	I agree. [02:51]	<Fiolli>	If it is raised again. I give it a "yes" as long as there are no changes. [02:53]	<ChackJadson>	Put into action later after more discussion next month, probably, I say [02:53]	<ChackJadson>	Next, anyway? [02:53]	<Cylka>	Honestly, I don't feel that I should vote on Inq policy, since I was just admitted and I don't know all of the details. [02:53]	<Graestan>	Admirable. [02:53]	* Graestan	was more reckless >.< [02:54]	<LordHydronium>	Going back to the triage for a sec, I just want to clarify on the triage that "Kill" isn't just for anything that's hard to review. It's basically an organized way of saying "We have a remove vote going on for this". [02:54]	<Graestan>	Indeed. [02:54]	<Graestan>	I already use it, in my strategic remove votes that don't always mean "I want this removed" [02:54]	<Graestan>	It's nice to see my way implemented in a more official manner. [02:55]	<ChackJadson>	Yeah. Can we assign the articles "levels" now, or are there more things to discuss first? [02:55]	<CavalierOne>	Before levels, I would like to bring something up about two current noms. [02:55]	|<--	Fiolli has left irc.freenode.net (Nick collision from services.) [02:55]	<LordHydronium>	When we do get there, I got a page open for it, so I'll be listing them as we go [02:56]	<ChackJadson>	Shoot Cav [02:56]	-->|	Fiolli (n=Fiolli@wikia/Jedimasterfiolli) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [02:56]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-inquisitorius +o Fiolli by chanserv [02:56]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-inquisitorius +o Fiolli by Nuku-Nuku [02:56]	<LordHydronium>	That's rather violent. [02:56]	<LordHydronium>	Oh, it's a command. Go, Cav. :p [02:56]	<ChackJadson>	O_O [02:56]	<CavalierOne>	We have two noms that /can/ be queued straight away if the last objections are met. Missile Boat and Form VII [02:56]	<Darth_Culator>	Already on Missile Boat. [02:56]	<LordHydronium>	Tommy said he'll review Form VII [02:57]	<GreenTentacle>	Good good. :P [02:57]	<TommyTreo>	He did. [02:58]	<The4dotelipsis>	I only brought up the remove vote on Missile Boat because, well...it's been a while. [02:58]	<Darth_Culator>	Yes, yes. I was hoping someone else would do it. :-P [02:58]	<The4dotelipsis>	And the objection isn't a quick fix. [02:58]	<CavalierOne>	Well, we have a quorum available. [02:59]	<Darth_Culator>	But I'm armed with the strategy guide and GT's TIE Defender article to rip off emulate, so it won't be long. [03:00]	|<--	Toprawa has left irc.freenode.net (Connection timed out) [03:00]	<Fiolli>	So this means? [03:00]	* Fiolli	apologizes for the Internet hiccup. [03:01]	<LordHydronium>	Form VII and Missile Boat we'll call done-with-a-caveat. [03:01]	<CavalierOne>	So do we keep missile boat on the page, or promote it with the understanding that Culator will add the information ASAP? [03:01]	<LordHydronium>	Wait until Culator's done. [03:01]	<Darth_Culator>	Oh, don't promote it yet. Then I don't have any fire under my ass. [03:01]	<Fiolli>	Per LH. [03:01]	<CavalierOne>	Oh, we can bug you daily for that. [03:02]	<Darth_Culator>	But I was reading the guide before the moot and shouldn't take too long to distill it. [03:02]	<CavalierOne>	Fair enough. [03:02]	<ChackJadson>	So, moving on? Sorry if I seem impatient or anything, btw [03:02]	<LordHydronium>	Anyone else have any discussion items? [03:03]	<LordHydronium>	Chack: It's been two hours. A little impatience is OK. :P [03:03]	<LordHydronium>	If no one else has anything, we should start sorting noms. [03:04]	<GreenTentacle>	Just a sec. [03:04]	<The4dotelipsis>	Can we move onto the Fucking Marriage Murder or whatever it's called? [03:04]	<GreenTentacle>	For those of you not paying attention to #wookieepedia, we now have the ability to indicate other language FAs in interwiki links. [03:04]	<GreenTentacle>	See the German link on http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Natasi_Daala [03:04]	<LordHydronium>	It looks the same to me. [03:05]	<LordHydronium>	Oh, wait. [03:05]	<The4dotelipsis>	Yeah. [03:05]	<LordHydronium>	There it is. [03:05]	<GreenTentacle>	JavaScript. [03:05]	<The4dotelipsis>	But I know what you were talking about. :P [03:05]	<GreenTentacle>	You might need to purge cache or something. [03:05]	<LordHydronium>	Daala has the best quote ever. [03:05]	<The4dotelipsis>	DAALA SMASH! [03:06]	<LordHydronium>	So can we get onto Banging Wedding Death? [03:06]	<The4dotelipsis>	I hope that one day that gets integrated into a canon work somewhere. :P [03:06]	<Darth_Culator>	Yes. [03:06]	<Darth_Culator>	To both. [03:06]	<LordHydronium>	OK. [03:06]	<LordHydronium>	First up, Mohs. [03:06]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Mohs [03:06]	<The4dotelipsis>	Wait, what do the three categories mean again? [03:07]	<CavalierOne>	I've got outstanding objections on it. [03:07]	<LordHydronium>	4dot: High is easy to pass, Medium is longer to pass, Kill is won't pass [03:07]	<The4dotelipsis>	Gotcha. [03:07]	<LordHydronium>	I'd say Medium. It has three objections, but the nominator's been gone a while. [03:07]	<CavalierOne>	Nominator not been active since March 21 [03:07]	<LordHydronium>	Not long enough to kill, though. [03:07]	<The4dotelipsis>	Well, this is a Medium. [03:07]	<LordHydronium>	Er, three votes [03:08]	<Graestan>	Medium. [03:08]	<Graestan>	Nothing personal to Yrf. [03:08]	<LordHydronium>	It's not personal. It's business. [03:08]	<LordHydronium>	That's the nice part. :P [03:08]	<LordHydronium>	We're being ruthlessly pragmatic. [03:09]	<Fiolli>	Anyone object to "medium" ? [03:09]	<LordHydronium>	!inqsignal [03:09]	<Nuku-Nuku>	AdmirableAckbar! Ataru! CavalierOne! ChackJadson! Cull_Tremayne! Darth_Culator! Eyrezer! Fiolli! Gonk! Graestan! GreenTentacle! Greyman! Imperialles! JainaSolo! LordHydronium! The4dotelipsis! Tommy9281! Toprawa! Xwing328! [03:09]	<ChackJadson>	Medium [03:09]	<Darth_Culator>	Extra Medium. [03:09]	<CavalierOne>	Medium [03:09]	<The4dotelipsis>	That needs to be updated. [03:09]	<LordHydronium>	I'm calling this medium. [03:09]	<Darth_Culator>	Yes, I know. [03:09]	<Fiolli>	I'd say medium, but low on the medium due to updates. [03:09]	<LordHydronium>	We have 43 noms, so moving on: [03:09]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Lando_Calrissian [03:09]	<The4dotelipsis>	Medium. [03:09]	<LordHydronium>	A medium if there ever was one. [03:09]	<CavalierOne>	Medium [03:10]	<ChackJadson>	Medium [03:10]	<The4dotelipsis>	Since Ataru /has/ been adding those missing things. [03:10]	<Fiolli>	Medium: length, amount of work needed. [03:10]	<The4dotelipsis>	His own damn fault for a half-baked nom. [03:10]	<Darth_Culator>	I wanna say kill. I really do. [03:10]	<Fiolli>	lol [03:10]	<Darth_Culator>	But I won't. [03:10]	<Fiolli>	You already did. Technically. ;) [03:10]	<LordHydronium>	I said they should kill it earlier. [03:10]	<LordHydronium>	But they didn't like that idea. [03:10]	<Graestan>	I hate to do it to him, but Medium. [03:10]	<Fiolli>	Ataru /is/ working on it . . . so medium. [03:10]	<LordHydronium>	Medium it is. We're skipping Missile Boat. [03:10]	<Fiolli>	Otherwise it would be kill. [03:10]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Brianna [03:10]	<The4dotelipsis>	Medium. [03:10]	<LordHydronium>	Nominator just came back. [03:11]	<LordHydronium>	Medium [03:11]	<The4dotelipsis>	Although I did do a fair bit of work to it. [03:11]	<The4dotelipsis>	It was nigh unreadable... :S [03:11]	<ChackJadson>	Medium, though low medium [03:11]	<Graestan>	Medium. [03:11]	<CavalierOne>	Medium [03:11]	<Graestan>	Cylka and I almost died of exhaustion on that one. [03:12]	<Fiolli>	Epic meh. [03:12]	<LordHydronium>	Calling medium. [03:12]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Denal [03:12]	<The4dotelipsis>	Skip this. [03:12]	<LordHydronium>	Basically done, if 4dot votes after his objection [03:12]	<The4dotelipsis>	My objection is the only one outstanding. [03:12]	<LordHydronium>	Skipped. [03:12]	<The4dotelipsis>	And I can probably fix both myself. [03:12]	<LordHydronium>	Skipping Form VII as well. [03:12]	<The4dotelipsis>	...and I probably will, just for the hell of it. [03:12]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Nym [03:13]	<The4dotelipsis>	Medium, due to length. [03:13]	<CavalierOne>	Medium [03:13]	<ChackJadson>	Medium [03:13]	<LordHydronium>	That's a long 'un. [03:13]	<LordHydronium>	Medium. [03:13]	<Graestan>	Medium on length. [03:13]	<Fiolli>	I say low. . . not kill. . . just low. [03:13]	<LordHydronium>	I'm just going to call these after we get five votes, unless anyone has major objections. [03:14]	<ChackJadson>	There's no low, is there? [03:14]	<LordHydronium>	No. [03:14]	<Fiolli>	I don't know how much work is being done on it, and I don't know if Jinzler's objections have either been met or even seen. [03:14]	<LordHydronium>	Medium is basically "Worry about this when there's fewer noms" [03:14]	<Graestan>	Wow, only a few noms and we are halfway down the page. :S [03:14]	<The4dotelipsis>	Heh. [03:14]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Mission_to_Monastery [03:14]	<The4dotelipsis>	Gonna call High on this one. [03:14]	<LordHydronium>	I think that's our first High. [03:14]	<The4dotelipsis>	It's a GA. [03:14]	<Fiolli>	With everything going as "medium," then we'll be back as we were. [03:14]	<CavalierOne>	High [03:14]	<The4dotelipsis>	And it only needs one more Inq involved. [03:15]	<Fiolli>	High. [03:15]	<Graestan>	High. [03:15]	<LordHydronium>	TommyTreo: You've still got two outstanding objections that he says are done. Can you check? [03:15]	<LordHydronium>	High it is. [03:15]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Darth_Kruhl [03:15]	<The4dotelipsis>	High. [03:15]	<LordHydronium>	High. [03:15]	<ChackJadson>	High [03:15]	<Darth_Culator>	Hi! [03:15]	<CavalierOne>	High [03:16]	<Fiolli>	High. [03:16]	<LordHydronium>	Called for hihg [03:16]	<Graestan>	Hai Karate [03:16]	<LordHydronium>	*high [03:16]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Mirta_Gev [03:16]	<The4dotelipsis>	Medium. [03:16]	<The4dotelipsis>	Needs a bit more polishing. [03:16]	<CavalierOne>	Medium [03:16]	<ChackJadson>	Medium [03:16]	<Graestan>	Medium. [03:16]	<Fiolli>	Medium. [03:16]	<GreenTentacle>	Gonna have to leave you guys to it. [03:16]	<LordHydronium>	Between the number of votes, length, and objections, medium. [03:16]	<GreenTentacle>	And Cav as the last Brit up. :P [03:16]	<GreenTentacle>	Night all. [03:16]	<LordHydronium>	It's a medium [03:16]	<Cylka>	'Night. [03:16]	<CavalierOne>	Night GT [03:17]	|<--	GreenTentacle has left irc.freenode.net ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032609]") [03:17]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Bek-Vulkar_gang_war [03:17]	<The4dotelipsis>	High. [03:17]	<ChackJadson>	High [03:17]	<The4dotelipsis>	It actually has 5 Inqs involved already. [03:17]	<CavalierOne>	High [03:17]	<Graestan>	High. [03:17]	<Cylka>	OK, I'll finish that up after the meeting. [03:17]	<LordHydronium>	5 Inqs involved, per 4dot. High anyway. [03:17]	<Fiolli>	Skip. [03:17]	<LordHydronium>	Skip the gang war? [03:17]	<Fiolli>	Yes. [03:18]	<The4dotelipsis>	I think we can afford to. [03:18]	<Graestan>	That one is the funny one. [03:18]	<LordHydronium>	If Ataru is going to vote after, sure. [03:18]	<LordHydronium>	Let's call it a skip, and toss another Inq if we need it [03:18]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Darth_Nihl [03:18]	<The4dotelipsis>	High. [03:18]	<ChackJadson>	Medium [03:18]	<The4dotelipsis>	It's not that long. [03:18]	<Fiolli>	Medium. [03:18]	<CavalierOne>	Medium [03:19]	<LordHydronium>	Gah, Victor needs to strike his. [03:19]	<LordHydronium>	he voted on it [03:19]	<LordHydronium>	I'd give it a High. [03:19]	<LordHydronium>	Anyone else? [03:19]	<LordHydronium>	It's 2 High/3 Medium at the moment. [03:19]	<The4dotelipsis>	That's 5. Makes it a medium. [03:19]	<ChackJadson>	Can I struck it, Hydro? i mean, he voted support already... [03:19]	<The4dotelipsis>	Nuh-uh. [03:19]	<ChackJadson>	*strike it [03:20]	<LordHydronium>	OK, mediuming Nihl [03:20]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#XoXaan [03:20]	<The4dotelipsis>	High. [03:20]	<Fiolli>	Medium. [03:20]	<LordHydronium>	High. [03:20]	<ChackJadson>	High [03:20]	<Graestan>	High, short. [03:20]	<The4dotelipsis>	Problems are minimal, and it's quite short. [03:21]	<Fiolli>	Wait. I was on the wrong one. High. [03:21]	<CavalierOne>	High [03:21]	* Fiolli	facepalms. [03:21]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Toki_.22Corellian_Strangler.22_Tollivar [03:21]	<Fiolli>	High. [03:21]	<LordHydronium>	That's a high. [03:21]	<CavalierOne>	High [03:21]	<The4dotelipsis>	High. [03:21]	<ChackJadson>	High [03:21]	<Graestan>	Hai [03:21]	<LordHydronium>	Toki is High [03:21]	<LordHydronium>	heh [03:22]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Celeste_Morne [03:22]	<The4dotelipsis>	Medium, length. [03:22]	<Fiolli>	Medium. [03:22]	<LordHydronium>	Medium [03:22]	<CavalierOne>	Medium [03:22]	<ChackJadson>	Medium [03:22]	<Graestan>	Medium [03:22]	<LordHydronium>	Medium it is. [03:22]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Quanto [03:22]	<Graestan>	High [03:22]	<The4dotelipsis>	High, short. [03:22]	<Graestan>	Easy [03:22]	<LordHydronium>	High [03:22]	<CavalierOne>	High [03:23]	<Graestan>	I will sign off on it now, gave it the FA treatment on the GAN [03:23]	|<--	TommyTreo has left irc.freenode.net ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") [03:23]	<LordHydronium>	That's only four votes. Anyone else want to pitch in, or should I call it High? [03:24]	<LordHydronium>	Chack, Culator, Fiolli? [03:24]	<ChackJadson>	High [03:24]	<LordHydronium>	OK [03:24]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Treis_Sinde [03:24]	<The4dotelipsis>	Medium, length. [03:24]	<The4dotelipsis>	It's borderline, though. [03:24]	<LordHydronium>	I'd say High. I think it's on the upper end. [03:25]	<ChackJadson>	High [03:25]	<The4dotelipsis>	Just as an aside, I wonder if we could put the KB numbers next to each of these? [03:25]	<LordHydronium>	KB? [03:25]	<The4dotelipsis>	The article size. [03:25]	<LordHydronium>	oh [03:25]	<ChackJadson>	On the FAN page, Fourdot, or in the channel? [03:25]	<The4dotelipsis>	On the FMK page. [03:25]	<The4dotelipsis>	There is going to be a FMK page, yes? [03:26]	<LordHydronium>	I'll add them in [03:26]	<LordHydronium>	Yes, I'm making it [03:26]	<The4dotelipsis>	That's for later, though. [03:26]	<The4dotelipsis>	I'll switch to high for this. [03:26]	<LordHydronium>	Fiolli, Cav, Culator, Grae? [03:26]	<Graestan>	HIgh on Sinde [03:26]	<CavalierOne>	My nom, abstaining [03:26]	<LordHydronium>	Oh, right. :P [03:26]	<Graestan>	Cav noms are the bomb and never need too much. :D [03:27]	<Darth_Culator>	High. [03:27]	<CavalierOne>	Thanks Grae [03:27]	<LordHydronium>	High it is [03:27]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Vul_Isen [03:27]	<Graestan>	np accurate [03:27]	<The4dotelipsis>	High. [03:27]	<The4dotelipsis>	Length + Nominator experience. [03:27]	<CavalierOne>	High. GA as well. [03:27]	<The4dotelipsis>	That too. [03:27]	<LordHydronium>	high [03:27]	<ChackJadson>	High [03:27]	<Darth_Culator>	What 4dot and Cav said. [03:28]	<LordHydronium>	Calling it high [03:28]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Spelunker_probe_droid [03:28]	<CavalierOne>	Medium [03:28]	<ChackJadson>	High [03:28]	<The4dotelipsis>	High, length, GA. [03:28]	<Fiolli>	High. [03:29]	<LordHydronium>	High [03:29]	<Graestan>	High [03:29]	<Graestan>	Soresu is always handy to fix [03:29]	<LordHydronium>	OK, that's it, I'm waiting to add these page sizes. :P [03:29]	<LordHydronium>	This is too cumbersome to do it in real time [03:29]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Ru_Murleen [03:29]	<The4dotelipsis>	Oh, yes, please do. [03:29]	<Graestan>	High on Murleeen [03:29]	<Fiolli>	High. [03:29]	<CavalierOne>	Hight [03:29]	<Graestan>	GT noms are the tops. [03:29]	<The4dotelipsis>	I'm leaning towards Medium, purely because of the length. [03:29]	<The4dotelipsis>	But, OK. :P [03:29]	<Graestan>	Not as long as it seems. [03:29]	<LordHydronium>	I think images are pushing the length up [03:30]	<LordHydronium>	High [03:30]	<Graestan>	Yes. [03:30]	<The4dotelipsis>	Ah. What the hell, high. [03:30]	<Fiolli>	It was a very easy read. [03:30]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Alien_Exodus [03:30]	<The4dotelipsis>	Medium, only because it's unusual. [03:30]	<CavalierOne>	Per 4dot [03:30]	<LordHydronium>	Medium. I think it needs some review. [03:30]	<ChackJadson>	Medium [03:31]	<Graestan>	Medium, will be a hard review. [03:31]	<Fiolli>	Medium. [03:31]	<LordHydronium>	Medium it is [03:31]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Heol_Girdun [03:32]	<The4dotelipsis>	I'm tempted to go High for the length. [03:32]	<LordHydronium>	Grunny, make sure to upgrade your vote there [03:32]	<CavalierOne>	High, length [03:32]	<LordHydronium>	High for length [03:32]	<LordHydronium>	That's what she siad. [03:32]	<LordHydronium>	*said [03:32]	<Grunny>	Will do [03:32]	<Graestan>	High, short. [03:33]	<LordHydronium>	It's a high [03:33]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Gudb [03:33]	<The4dotelipsis>	High, length. [03:33]	<ChackJadson>	High [03:33]	<CavalierOne>	High, length [03:33]	<Graestan>	High. [03:33]	<LordHydronium>	High, because I feel bad that it's going so unnoticed there [03:33]	<LordHydronium>	High it is [03:33]	<Graestan>	I can't read TOTJ until August at least. :D [03:34]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Battle_of_Ryloth_.28Clone_Wars.29 [03:34]	<The4dotelipsis>	Medium. [03:34]	<The4dotelipsis>	Debut, and the images look ugly. [03:34]	<ChackJadson>	Medium [03:34]	<The4dotelipsis>	Placement and overuse-wise. [03:34]	<Fiolli>	Medium. [03:34]	<LordHydronium>	Medium [03:34]	<CavalierOne>	Medium, needs thorough reviews [03:34]	<LordHydronium>	OK, medium [03:34]	<LordHydronium>	Skip the next one [03:35]	<Graestan>	Medium, :S [03:35]	<LordHydronium>	Yo'gand's core is done when Ey reviews the objection [03:35]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Lok_Durd [03:35]	<The4dotelipsis>	Medium, debut. [03:35]	<Graestan>	high [03:35]	<Graestan>	CC nom? [03:35]	<The4dotelipsis>	Kilson. [03:35]	<Graestan>	Ah, Kilson. Medium. [03:35]	<CavalierOne>	Medium, per 4dot [03:35]	<LordHydronium>	Medium [03:35]	<Graestan>	CC is extremely available to address. [03:36]	<The4dotelipsis>	I'm tempted to go medium for most debuts. I'm an ageist pig. :P [03:36]	<ChackJadson>	Medium [03:36]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Yun [03:36]	<Fiolli>	Medium. [03:36]	<LordHydronium>	long, medium [03:36]	<The4dotelipsis>	Medium. [03:36]	<CavalierOne>	Medium [03:36]	<Graestan>	Medium, and he looks like a ponce [03:36]	<LordHydronium>	Medium it is [03:36]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#X-83_TwinTail_starfighter [03:36]	<LordHydronium>	Abstain. [03:36]	<Graestan>	LOW [03:36]	<Graestan>	:P [03:37]	<The4dotelipsis>	Kill. [03:37]	<The4dotelipsis>	I mean, High. [03:37]	<Fiolli>	Kill. [03:37]	<Fiolli>	;) [03:37]	<ChackJadson>	Aww, I was gonna say kill :P [03:37]	<Graestan>	High, extremely short. [03:37]	<CavalierOne>	High, length [03:37]	<Darth_Culator>	I'm offended that you went out of your way to use a different quote. Kill. [03:37]	<ChackJadson>	High [03:37]	<Darth_Culator>	:-P [03:37]	<LordHydronium>	If you people had said Kill, I'd have to vote that way. :P [03:37]	<LordHydronium>	Er, list it that way [03:37]	<Darth_Culator>	Seriously, though. Already GA. High. [03:37]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Jerjerrod [03:37]	<The4dotelipsis>	High. [03:38]	<The4dotelipsis>	Not really /that/ long. [03:38]	<Graestan>	High, not too bad at all. [03:38]	<CavalierOne>	High [03:38]	<Darth_Culator>	Been watching this one take shape. High. [03:38]	<Graestan>	I wrung a lot out of it, and I am sure Tope will have a hard look. [03:38]	<LordHydronium>	Eh, let's give it the old high [03:38]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Mist_.28bounty_hunter.29 [03:38]	<LordHydronium>	Have to remind Tranner to promote his vote [03:38]	<The4dotelipsis>	High, Cav. [03:38]	<Fiolli>	Wait. [03:38]	<Graestan>	Medium, DS is killing me inside. :P [03:39]	<LordHydronium>	Short and Cav. High. [03:39]	<Graestan>	High. [03:39]	<Fiolli>	I say Medium on Jerjerrod. Nothing against Tranner, but I think the article is missing some sources that Toprawa could help out on due to his work on Executor. [03:39]	<Fiolli>	Bah. You guys moved too quick. [03:39]	<Graestan>	PhotoComic missing. :S [03:39]	<Darth_Culator>	OH NOES [03:39]	* Graestan	hates the PhotoComics [03:39]	<LordHydronium>	If anyone wants to change their votes on Jerjerrod, they're welcome [03:39]	<The4dotelipsis>	Oh dear. [03:39]	<LordHydronium>	We're not writing this in stone [03:39]	<Fiolli>	I think there are a few missing things, but that is on first glance. [03:39]	<LordHydronium>	So back to Mist, though [03:40]	<Fiolli>	Anyway. . . Mist. . . Medium. [03:40]	<Graestan>	Why am I holding this chisel, again? [03:40]	<ChackJadson>	Dunno :P [03:40]	<CavalierOne>	Personal amusement. [03:41]	<LordHydronium>	Three Highs for Mist, 1 Medium. Unless we have a lot of people who want it medium, I'm going to call this one, OK? [03:41]	<Darth_Culator>	Kill! [03:41]	<ChackJadson>	Hi [03:41]	<Darth_Culator>	XD [03:41]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Jaius_Yorub [03:41]	<The4dotelipsis>	High. [03:41]	<ChackJadson>	High [03:41]	<LordHydronium>	Man, it's defeating the purpose when half of these are High. :P [03:41]	<Fiolli>	High. [03:41]	<LordHydronium>	High, though. [03:42]	<The4dotelipsis>	Not really. People should pay more attention now. [03:42]	<LordHydronium>	Indeed. [03:42]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Sun_Guard [03:42]	<The4dotelipsis>	Ideally, anyway. :P [03:42]	<ChackJadson>	High [03:42]	<The4dotelipsis>	High. Abel. [03:42]	<LordHydronium>	NECESSARY [03:42]	<LordHydronium>	MANDATORY VOTING [03:42]	<CavalierOne>	High. GMT needs to upgrade vote. [03:42]	<CavalierOne>	And on Yorub as well. [03:42]	<Graestan>	h [03:42]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Sneevel [03:43]	<Darth_Culator>	igh [03:43]	<Fiolli>	Medium. [03:43]	<CavalierOne>	Medium [03:43]	<The4dotelipsis>	Medium. [03:43]	<LordHydronium>	Medium, let's say. [03:43]	<The4dotelipsis>	Species are minefields. [03:43]	<LordHydronium>	Ten to go! [03:43]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Viqi_.22Vichy.22_Shesh [03:43]	<The4dotelipsis>	Medium, length. [03:43]	<Darth_Culator>	Low-Medium. It's Titanic. [03:44]	<CavalierOne>	Medium [03:44]	<ChackJadson>	Medium [03:44]	<LordHydronium>	Long, and Harrar said he didn't care if it was up for a long time. :P [03:44]	<LordHydronium>	Medium. [03:44]	<Fiolli>	Medium, even though I've already started reading it. [03:44]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Valin_Draco [03:44]	<The4dotelipsis>	Medium, despite GA status. [03:44]	<CavalierOne>	Medium [03:44]	<LordHydronium>	Gonna medium this one [03:44]	<ChackJadson>	Medium [03:44]	<Fiolli>	Medium. [03:45]	<LordHydronium>	Medium it is [03:45]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Dominic_Raynor [03:45]	<ChackJadson>	High [03:45]	<The4dotelipsis>	High. [03:45]	<CavalierOne>	High [03:45]	<Fiolli>	High. [03:45]	<Darth_Culator>	High, solely because of the last pic. Awesome. [03:46]	<LordHydronium>	High it is. [03:46]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Gallandro [03:46]	<Fiolli>	Medium. [03:46]	<Graestan>	Medium [03:46]	<The4dotelipsis>	The intro looks like it's been rogered by an omnibus. But I don't think it's too long. [03:46]	<LordHydronium>	GIANT HAV ARTICLE [03:46]	<LordHydronium>	Medium. [03:46]	<The4dotelipsis>	High. [03:46]	<The4dotelipsis>	It's not really that long, I think. [03:46]	<LordHydronium>	Actually, that isn't so long. [03:46]	<LordHydronium>	Reconsidering... [03:46]	<CavalierOne>	High [03:46]	<The4dotelipsis>	Deceptive intro. :P [03:46]	<LordHydronium>	It's newere. [03:47]	<LordHydronium>	I'm going to Medium it for now. [03:47]	<LordHydronium>	*newer [03:47]	<The4dotelipsis>	You are sorting this by date nominated, Hydro? [03:47]	<LordHydronium>	I'm going in order, yeah [03:47]	<The4dotelipsis>	Good. [03:47]	<LordHydronium>	3-2 for Medium, then [03:47]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#G.27vli_G.27Sil [03:48]	<The4dotelipsis>	High, length. [03:48]	<LordHydronium>	Short, only objection I had was a little bit of missing info. [03:48]	<LordHydronium>	High. [03:48]	<ChackJadson>	high [03:48]	<CavalierOne>	High, GA [03:48]	<Fiolli>	High. [03:48]	<LordHydronium>	High it is [03:48]	<LordHydronium>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#CC-1004 [03:48]	<Fiolli>	High. [03:48]	<The4dotelipsis>	High. [03:48]	<ChackJadson>	High [03:49]	<LordHydronium>	All right, for the record, everything after this nom has been up less than a week, as of today. [03:49]	<The4dotelipsis>	We should still sort them. [03:49]	<Darth_Culator>	Then to hell with 'em. [03:49]	<CavalierOne>	Auto medium? [03:49]	<LordHydronium>	Well, it'll take time to review them [03:50]	<The4dotelipsis>	Look, I doubt anyone will go straight to them in the next week. [03:50]	<LordHydronium>	I'll give the dates for these last ones. [03:50]	<The4dotelipsis>	If they do, they are arseclowns. [03:50]	<LordHydronium>	April 12: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Imperial_Sentinel [03:50]	<The4dotelipsis>	I say that's a medium. Due to it being a debut. [03:50]	<LordHydronium>	Medium for debut and organization, which is a kind of tricky area [03:50]	<Fiolli>	Medium. [03:51]	<CavalierOne>	medium [03:51]	<ChackJadson>	Medium [03:51]	<LordHydronium>	Medium it is [03:51]	<LordHydronium>	April 14: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Guardian_.28Executor-class.29 [03:51]	<The4dotelipsis>	This is rather disappointing. We haven't killed anything. :P [03:51]	<Graestan>	High [03:51]	<The4dotelipsis>	High. Not that long. [03:51]	<Fiolli>	Medium. [03:51]	<CavalierOne>	High [03:51]	<LordHydronium>	Abstain. [03:51]	<LordHydronium>	3-1 high. Any others? [03:51]	<Fiolli>	Anything by this date is medium; plus, ships can be tricky. [03:52]	<ChackJadson>	Medium [03:52]	<Darth_Culator>	I want to say medium just because it's a fleet junkie trap. [03:52]	<LordHydronium>	I de-fleet junkied it. [03:52]	<Darth_Culator>	It's like a bug zapper, Hydro. [03:52]	<LordHydronium>	OK, that's three highs and three mediums. You people suck at decisive voting. :P [03:53]	<The4dotelipsis>	Just to break the tie... [03:53]	<The4dotelipsis>	I'll say double-high. :P [03:53]	<CavalierOne>	\o/ [03:53]	<Fiolli>	I don't care either way. [03:53]	<The4dotelipsis>	Nah, medium. Culator has a point. [03:53]	<LordHydronium>	I'm going to medium it for the same reason I did Gallandro [03:54]	<LordHydronium>	April 16: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Yeeru_Chivkyrie [03:54]	<CavalierOne>	Medium [03:54]	<The4dotelipsis>	High. [03:54]	<Fiolli>	Abstention [03:54]	<LordHydronium>	Debut, but short and GA [03:54]	<ChackJadson>	High [03:54]	<LordHydronium>	But new. [03:54]	<Darth_Culator>	Medium due to age and FA debut. [03:54]	<The4dotelipsis>	Oh, it's a debut. [03:54]	<The4dotelipsis>	Medium. [03:54]	<LordHydronium>	Medium...sure. [03:54]	<Fiolli>	I don't see how an FA debut matters. [03:54]	<LordHydronium>	Last one, literally nommed last night: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:FAN#Empirical [03:55]	<Fiolli>	Pranay has written GAs with success, to my knowledge. [03:55]	<The4dotelipsis>	High. [03:55]	<Darth_Culator>	Medium due to age and starshippitude. [03:55]	<CavalierOne>	Medium. [03:55]	<LordHydronium>	Culator hates my ships. :( [03:55]	<Darth_Culator>	I hate all ship noms by default. [03:55]	<The4dotelipsis>	Fiolli: It's a bit more of a strenuous process. We want to put these people through the gauntlet. :P [03:55]	<LordHydronium>	This is too new to be high. [03:55]	<ChackJadson>	Medium. Nominator's a noob (really, it was just nommed, no need to hurry now) [03:55]	<LordHydronium>	I'm voting on my own, but voting medium [03:55]	<LordHydronium>	That's it, muthafuckas [03:56]	<LordHydronium>	Witness what you have wrought: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/The_Triage [03:56]	<The4dotelipsis>	Fuck the lot of you! Fuck you all! [03:56]	<The4dotelipsis>	Cool. [03:56]	<The4dotelipsis>	I like this. [03:56]	<Graestan>	Hur? [03:56]	<ChackJadson>	We done? [03:56]	<LordHydronium>	It's about 50/50 [03:56]	<Darth_Culator>	Awesomeosity. [03:56]	<LordHydronium>	So now everyone's just got to work on the first category. :P [03:56]	<LordHydronium>	We're done, if there's nothing else. [03:57]	* Fiolli	passes out on the computer. [03:57]	<The4dotelipsis>	It might be sour grapes, but I'm just thinking how totally useful my idea would be right now. :P [03:57]	<ChackJadson>	Cool, I'm out then. Later all [03:57]	|<--	ChackJadson has left irc.freenode.net ("This quit message is dumb") [03:57]	<Fiolli>	Actually, I'm with 4dot on that. [03:57]	<LordHydronium>	I'm inclined to agree with 4dot. :P [03:57]	<The4dotelipsis>	That's something to note for the future. The INQCON numbers could be on the Triage page as well. [03:58]	<LordHydronium>	Hm, I wonder if a table would be useful. [03:58]	<LordHydronium>	So we could sort by size and such [03:58]	<The4dotelipsis>	That would be useful. [03:58]	<--|	Fiolli has left #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [03:58]	<LordHydronium>	I'll touch this up over this evening, then [03:58]	<LordHydronium>	For now, we have a starting point [03:59]	-->|	Fiolli (n=Fiolli@wikia/Jedimasterfiolli) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [03:59]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-inquisitorius +o Fiolli by chanserv [03:59]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-inquisitorius +o Fiolli by Nuku-Nuku [03:59]	<The4dotelipsis>	Yes. Excellent. [03:59]	<Fiolli>	Wonderful, it works. [03:59]	<The4dotelipsis>	Let there be joy and celebration. [03:59]	<The4dotelipsis>	Chiswick! Fresh horses! [03:59]	* Fiolli	does the "thank you ChanServ" dance. [03:59]	<Graestan>	Is the Inqmoot over? [03:59]	<Darth_Culator>	It couldn't have been a permission problem or a Nuku problem. [03:59]	<Graestan>	Can I not do the log this time? I so sleepy. [03:59]	<Fiolli>	Are we going to log this THREE HOUR MARATHON? [03:59]	<Graestan>	Yep. [03:59]	<Darth_Culator>	Anyway, I have to fix the access list now. [03:59]	<Graestan>	People bitch about lack of log. [03:59]	<CavalierOne>	Grae, you do realise that by promoting the three new Inqs, only one member of the AC is not an Inq as well? [03:59]	<Fiolli>	Culator: Yeah, for whatever reason Channie was rebuffing me. [04:00]	<Fiolli>	Not sure what was going on. [04:00]	<Graestan>	Which member is this? [04:00]	<CavalierOne>	DarthChristian [04:00]	<Graestan>	Oh, DC. He's quit, anyhow. [04:00]	<Fiolli>	He's gone. [04:00]	<CavalierOne>	Then all ACs are Inqs! [04:00]	<Fiolli>	Irony. [04:00]	<Cylka>	:-D [04:00]	<Fiolli>	Cruel irony. ;) [04:01]	<Cylka>	:-P [04:01]	<The4dotelipsis>	And all Inqs are ACs...how mysterious... :P [04:01]	<The4dotelipsis>	Well, not really. [04:01]	<Fiolli>	Cyclical irony. Me likes. [04:01]	<LordHydronium>	Three hourse? I could have watched a movie! And made love! [04:01]	<LordHydronium>	Well, at least I have a movie here. [04:02]	<The4dotelipsis>	The Towering Inferno. Now there's a movie. [04:02]	<The4dotelipsis>	Everybody has at least one film that cheers them up. That's mine. [04:02]	<The4dotelipsis>	If I think I'm down and out, I think to myself, well, at least I'm not in that huge building with an all-star cast. [04:02]	<Fiolli>	If we're done, then I'm out. [04:02]	<The4dotelipsis>	We is conclusioned.