Talk:Greedo/Legends

Greedo Sr's Deleted Scene
Wald isnt Greedo, in the deleted scene Wald talks to Greedo after his fight with Anakin, saying something like "You'll come to a bad end".

Greedo is also a bit bigger than Wald if I remember rightly. Anyway Im gonna edit that.
 * The databank didn't mention this scene, other EU material implies that Greedo was too young to have known Anakin as a kid, and an earlier version of this article claimed that was Greedo Sr., so I'm not totally convinced that was Greedo. However, I was wrong about it being Wald. Silly Dan 11:09, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Well in the documentary about the deleted scenes, George Lucas, Ben Burt et al, say that it is the same Greedo that appears in ANH, which is also why Wald makes that comment, as a joke, similar to Obi-Wans "Why do I get the feeling you will be the death of me" line in AOTC

It's Greedo Sr. It was supposed to be Greedo from ANH, but the EU clarifies this by making it his father. This allows for Greedo's existing backstory to stay, and for a Rodian named "Greedo" to have a fight with Anakin on Tatooine. It's definately not Wald.

QuentinGeorge 21:00, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
 * How is this possible though? Ultimate Alien Anthology gives Rodian ages at about 1-12 children, 13-15 young adult 16-35 adult. The Greedo in the cut scenes was clearly about the Rodian equivalent of Anakin's age. How could he have been ANH Greedo's father? Wouldn't it make more sense if Greedo was just a popular Rodian name, like John? 162.84.120.221 01:52, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * WotC has made a couple of mistakes before. In that same book, they also said the Yuuzhan Vong were venerable at the age of eighty, yet Malik Carr said that the Yuuzhan Vong could live two to three times the average length of a human life. -- SFH 01:59, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Look at the scene again. The Rodian is clearly older than Anakin and Wald (since he's much taller) - probably about 13/14, and Greedo the Younger was not born until around 19 BBY. Therefore, Greedo the Elder was around 28 when he had a son. Totally plausible. QuentinGeorge 05:06, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Even if he was the same age as Anakin, it would still be perfectly reasonable for Greedo the Elder to have a child in 19 BBY. jSarek 09:39, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, yeah. Either way, it tracks. QuentinGeorge 09:42, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Disambig?
Should we move this to Greedo the Younger and have this a disambiguation page pointing to Greedo the Elder and Greedo the Younger? QuentinGeorge 05:51, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) Any source that says the Elder was a bounty hunter as well? --Imperialles 07:36, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I'd like that --Imperialles 07:30, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * That could work. -- Riffsyphon1024 07:43, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * The New Essential Guide to Characters calls him an "esteemed hunter". QuentinGeorge 08:11, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Younger Schyounger
Unless I am mistaken, no official source actually refers to this Greedo as "Greedo the Younger" - it's just Greedo. If Greedo was moved to Greedo the Younger for the sake of disambiguation, then perhaps it should be moved to Greedo (junior) or similar, to be consistent with Wookieepedia's disambiguation method. Greedo the Elder is fine, since that's what he is called in The New Essential Guide to Characters. --Azizlight 05:40, 27 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, does an official source ever call him "Greedo the Younger"? If not, then we should move it back to simply "Greedo" (the way everyone knows him), with a youmay pointing to Greedo the Elder. And if he does appear as "Greedo the Younger" in an official source, then... then... well, then we keep it the way it is. So there. -BaronGrackle 02:29, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Hello again. Any strong opinions against moving the page to simply Greedo, with a "youmay" for Greedo the Elder? If not, I agree that it would be more appropriate. -BaronGrackle 22:31, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm all for moving the page, unless we find a source with him ID'd as "the Younger." 01:07, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Funeral
The New Essential Chronology seems to imply that Greedo had a funeral.--Darth Oblivion 20:14, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 20:19, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
 * And that contradicts what the article says, doesn't it? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 20:20, 30 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually, Greedo's head was not ground up. The image of his funeral in The New Essential Chronology shows his head floating in a container. Of course, it does seem highly unlikely that any other bounty hunters would actually attend unless it benefited them somehow. I don't see how getting shot by Han Solo would earn him respect from hunters like Fett and IG-88.--Darth Oblivion 21:40, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I imagine they would just call him a n00b. lol --beeurd 02:36, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't supposed (once I get the darn book next week) if anyone would object to possibly adding the funeral pic to page? Just throwing that suggestion out there. --Trak Nar 12:55, 24 July 2007

Greed
Been wondering this all day: Do you think his name intentionally suggests "greed?" - TopAce 16:49, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, sure! It should be mentioned. Klow 17:18, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Main pic: Greedo or Bludlow?
For some times, I've seen many sources, including official ones, use this main pic for Greedo. But it's pretty clear that this photo is from the Holiday Special (see the lighting and the colors), and can not depict Greedo. All this confusion come, in my opinion, from the fact that Greedo's ANH costume has be re-used for Bludlow in HS. But now, what to believe? Can't we use another Greedo picture? -- Kaal 19:17, 4 February 2007 (UTC) -BaronGrackle 14:05, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * That's why I was sad when this image was suddenly replaced:
 * I really think this picture should be the main one of the article. But I don't know, has there been any discussion about Greedo's main pic before? -- Kaal 17:30, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I changed it back to the Greedo image. -- Ozzel 02:49, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Cool, much better now. ;) -- Kaal 14:44, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Greedo Had a Hobby...?
As evident in A Hunter's Fate, apparently Greedo had a hobby: whittling. He was depicted carving things in the beginning of the strip (roughly strip #8) and then again on Nar Shadaa, where he carved a small version of the ship he wanted to get. Should that hobby be mentioned? Trak Nar 15:36, 5 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Too late, the hobby has been mentioned and cited! If need be, I will crop an image of Greedo carving and post the thing for proof. Trak Nar

Fighting Over Who Shot First
Alrighty, I've noticed this happening a few times now; people deleting the portion of Greedo's bio that says he shot first. Almost immediatly afterwards, the edit would be reverted back. Now, I'm one of those "Han Shot First" purists, but for the sake of civility (and 'cause Lucas says so), I haven't touched that portion of the bio. Instead, I worked my butt off to cite un-cited sources and hunt down a pic of the Greedo costume on display.

Anywho... since this is apparently gonna be an on-going fight, what say we put it to a vote or something? For this article... Should Greedo shoot first? Trak Nar 19:53, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No, there shouldn't be any voting. The most recent versions of the films are the highest canon, per Lucasfilm policy.  No amount of voting on our part can change that.  As much as it sucks, for our purposes here, the version of the scene in the DVD version of the film is the canon one. jSarek 06:41, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Then it looks like it's gonna continue to be a constant thing to revert edits made by anonymous people who can't seem to suck it up and deal with it. =/  Trak Nar 00:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)Trak Nar
 * Yep. That would be the case even if we held the vote, though.  If it gets too bad, we can semi-protect the page. jSarek 00:51, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Another Appearence
A while back, my brother and I were listening to some SW audio books, mainly the read-alongs that came with the records. One of the books we listened to was Star Wars: Adventures in Colors and Shapes. Greedo was mentioned in the book, so should this be added to the Appearences? And are these read-along books considered canon? Trak Nar 01:57, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

In Return of the Jedi, there is a character that looks JUST LIKE GREEDO talking to a Jawa. Who is it?
 * That is Beedo. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 19:43, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * There's a second Rodian in Jabba's palace who is an avid game-player and dressed exactly the same, but I dunno his name. Here's [| a pic of both Rodians] that Sompeetalay posted in his [| Rodian roster blog]. I remember seeing that particular Rodian's name somewhere and it's not Beedo.  Until the Special Edition, all Rodians featured in the Trilogy dressed exactly the same as or very similar to Greedo.  Such costuming descision was prolly in part to the extra Rodians being just walk-ons and not origonally intended to have a backstory.  It was also more cost-effective to just reuse costumes. Trak Nar 22:36, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

As for the origonal topic at hand... Are those readalong books considered canonical? I'm gonna go ahead and add in Greedo's mention in the Appearences list, but since I'm not sure if the readalongs are considered canonical or not, I'm not gonna specify that. If those books are not canonical, then someone can add that note. If you want proof of Greedo's mention, I'll hunt down that audio file again and isolate his mention.

Basically, Greedo's mention in that book was in regards to examples of the colour green. The computer that Threepio conversed with said something along the lines of "Green, like the colour of grass and Greedo." A silly mention, yes. It got a laugh outta me and my brother. Trak Nar 22:36, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

...Oh, I see it has been mentioned and is considered non-canon. Welp, that takes care of that, then! XD Trak Nar 22:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Vision- Should it be mentioned?
I've been meaning to say something about this, but kept forgetting/getting distracted. Anywho, in A Hunter's Fate, just before he goes to get his innards painted on the cantina wall, Greedo has the following vision:

''The moment had come. Greedo felt a mixture of fear and excitement. He closed his eyes and gathered his energies. Suddenly his mind filled with a bright image of a jungle world, dripping green neon leaves, a gathering of little huts and busy half-naked green bodies. He saw himself, and his brother Pqweeduk, running under the tall Tendril trees, running toward the village. He saw his mother standing in the clearing waiting for them. He saw himself and his brother run to her and she held out her arms and hugged them both. Then, he was inside the vision, looking up into her huge eyes. She was crying. "What's the matter, Mother? Why are you sad?" "I am sad and I am happy, Greedo. I am sad because of what must happen.  I am happy because you are coming home."''

Precognitively-spooky, no? I was gonna make a mention of it in the main article, (and eventually add in a sentance or two of his tag-along for the Yavin Vassilika) but I wanna see what you guys think, first. Eventually, the article will prolly go through the same exhaustive rewrite as the Rodian article is currently getting. Trak Nar 05:21, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Moving article to "Greedo"
I see that typing in Greedo redirects to this page. Previous discussion seemed to show there was consensus for moving the page to "Greedo", but that was a while back. Are there any problems with this? Does anyone know a source that calls him "Greedo the Younger" instead? -BaronGrackle 22:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I have yet to find a source that specifically identifies him as "Greedo the Younger." The NEGtC identifies Greedo Sr. as "Greedo the Elder," but Greedo Jr. is still just plain "Greedo."  I, personally, have no problem with moving the page to "Greedo," but seeing as how this was debated before with pretty much no results, then there's gotta be some sorta reason why there wasn't a move.   Trak Nar  Ramble on 02:25, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Given the previous conversation and this one, no evidence has been presented in a year and a half for leaving this at "Greedo the Younger." Thus, I've moved it.  I'm too burnt out from finals and illness to go through and start fixing links, though, so if someone else could tackle some of that (or better still, call upon a bot to do it), it'd be helpful. jSarek 03:17, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I just went through a crapload of articles and made the changes. I should look into making a bot... or just guzzle down some more caffeine and continue the bot-like editing sprees.  A good solid chunk has been at least tackled tonight and the rest can be taken care of later as anyone comes across 'em.   Trak Nar  Ramble on 04:26, 5 June 2008 (UTC)