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Construction
C-3PO was reconstructed on Tatooine by Anakin, but he was not built there.--SparqMan 11:55, 21 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * If my EU-fu serves me correctly, his original framework (which Anakin salvaged on Tatooine) was built on Jaffa at around 112 BBY.
 * Close: Affa. Sionay 23:22, 17 Jan 2007 (UTC)

Survival
C-3PO did survive the Yuuzhan Vong Invasion, but in the book "Star Wars, The New Essential Guide to Characters" by Daniel Wallace, Illustrations by Mike Sutfin, it saids different.
 * Umm, no it doesn't. The last paragraph in his entry is about him contemplating the nature of death, but nowhere in the article does it state in any way that he did not survive. jSarek 23:14, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Possible Plot Hole
Since Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker made 3PO, wouldn't either have them commented on that fact when they met in Episode V
 * Why should they? C-3PO isn't aware Anakin became Vader (memory wipe, remember), and why should Vader bother to have a chat with his former protocol droid - the one he built at a time in his life he's now trying to forget? There is, however, a Tales story that shows Vader's reaction to the droid when C-3PO is brought to him after being blasted - Kwenn 15:02, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

We're Doomed!
Threepio had a major role in things beyond the Battle of Endor. I'll add the 'We're doomed' banner on it until we can all find time to expand his article into his actions during the Expanded Universe. AngelQueen 22:24, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)

"You don't need to be snippy about it."
Correct. In the Expanded Universe, Threepio came up many times. He played a major role in the Black Fleet Crisis Trilogy. The droid was part of General Lando Calrissian's Teljkon Vagabond Task Force (Fleet commision of General, applied by Admrial Hiram Drayson). In Book 2 Shield of Lies, Lobot, the cyborg Chief Administrator of Cloud City, acknowledges that Threepio's original makers may have been the Bratan Enginering cybernetics products. Avid Soyak

Name meaning
What is the OOU (and IU for that matter) meaning for Threepio's designation? I know Anakin put the 3 for the 3rd member of the family, but is this how Lucas came up with it from the start?211.30.69.190 09:04, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't know the answer, but it is probably in Behind the Magic, if nowhere else, in a trivia question. - TopAce 18:41, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
 * i know that r2's name cmes from the term Reel TWO Dialoge TWO (my times limited so ill explain why later) and apparently george lucas tried playing about with other combinations to find something to fit with r2d2
 * Anon's right. George said, during production of another movie (American Graffiti, I think), that he heard someone call out "R2-D2" (which, as anon said, means Reel two - Dialoge two), to which George exclaimed "That's a great name for a character" and wrote it down. Later, he said he toyed with other letter and number combos to create C-3PO. And, for future reference anon, use ~ to sign your name, even if you aren't a member.  18:21, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
 * why did you call me anon?86.112.219.183 15:50, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Masculine/feminine
His current gender specification is "Masculine (feminine) programming"... What the heck is that supposed to mean? Threepio is not gay~! He's British!
 * Probably some vandal trying to take a shoot at 3P0. -- SFH 01:33, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
 * In one night, I or someone else reverted 3PO's gender FIVE TIMES. Something needs to be done, either locking up that section or banning the IP that keeps doing it. Cutch 02:33, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
 * That IP is now taking a nice month-long nap. jSarek 02:36, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Excellent. Muchas gracias. Cutch 02:36, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
 * That person prob. keeps chnaging their ip adress we need to lock the section.

Episode 1
Im pretty sure I've seen footage of Anthony Daniels being C-3PO in Episode 1. He had a suit on with rods conenct his legs and arms to C-3POs then they edited him out. So it should say Episode I-VI in the Behind the Scenes bit, shouldn't it?
 * True, and duly added. Cutch 05:31, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Article length
I think it's really sad that this article is shorter than something from the EU (i.e. the Chiss article). C'mon, it's C-3PO! One of the only characters to show up in all six films! We owe him better than this. This article should be incredibly expanded! Cutch 05:31, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism Protection
I fully agree with the vandalism protection that has been put in place. This article has been vandalized too many times. I think the vandalism protection should be indefinite. Lord Vader 23:34, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't think it should be indefinite...maybe if we could sneakily make him a custom infobox and lock that, but leave the main article text fully editable? &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 01:03, 28 April 2006 (UTC)


 * whoever wants threepio to be gay feels stron enough about it that i feel a section of the article debating 3PO's orientation. Everyone wins, right?  Thanks 68.196.242.142 06:54, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
 * If by "everyone" you mean "the person who kept changing C-3PO's gender to feminine", then yes, everyone wins. -- I need a name 14:07, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I think such a section would be inappropriate and lame, but I'm unprotecting the article anyway. It's been semiprotected since April: the trolls have gone off to pretend to be outraged about the Jedi Exile being a woman anyay. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 14:59, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

C-3PO and "The Maker"

 * Did C-3PO ever learn that Darth Vader was his creator and that his memory of this was erased? Jaywin 13:53, 17 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Dunno. Maybe we'll find out in Legacy.SithPower


 * Sort of. He knew in Splinter of the Mind's Eye that Vader knew "all of the code words and commands" to shut him down. So he may have partially known. Totema1 04:17, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
 * It'll no doubt be expanded, and he probably will find out sometime in Legacy("My maker, Darth Vader?! Oh Dear!" ^_^). I think it would also be interesting to see if 3P0 becomes more independent and such.
 * i THINK r2 will probably tell him most of his memories

Improvement drive
Okay, time to fix this article up. I already went through and gave the whole thing a copy edit (although I'm sure it could another checking). But as for content, here's some important stuff that needs to be added: Those are just a few things that I thought of. If anyone can think of some more, please add them. In the mean time, I'll try to do my part to fill in this info. -- Ozzel 20:19, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The movies: these are pretty well covered, but the info could certainly use some rewording and cleaning up in places.
 * Clone Wars cartoon: needs info about the mission to Ilum.
 * Droids cartoon: pathetic. This is one of Threepio's main gigs.
 * Droids comics (DH and Marvel): again, a passing referece to his owners just doesn't cut it. I will not be happy until this article mentions C-3PX.
 * The Glove of Darth Vader: his work in SPIN certainly deserves mention, silly as it may be.
 * The Courtship of Princess Leia: we can't forget Threepio's marvelous singing voice.

Other Functions
Is there a list of his thirty secondary functions? I have looked but came up with nothing. --Quidon88 02:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Quote?
Not sure if this can be used in the quotes section, or in the actual article, but after finishing a re-read of the Unifying Force, I noticed a line that really shows his character.

"I know, Artoo," C-3PO said quiet. "There are few occasions when I envy humans, but this is certainly one of them." (In reference to everyone crying over Luke and hugging after he was poisoned by Shimrra's staff) Skrie 01:17, 4 November 2006 (UTC)


 * It's similar to a line he said in the holiday special. Adamwankenobi 01:18, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Comics

 * Star Wars Republic: The New Face of War
 * Marvel Star Wars
 * The Other

Books

 * Labyrinth of Evil
 * The Truce at Bakura
 * Tatooine Ghost
 * Jedi Search
 * Children of the Jedi
 * Darksaber
 * Planet of Twilight
 * The Black Fleet Crisis
 * The New Rebellion
 * Specter of the Past
 * Vision of the Future
 * Star Wars: Union
 * Young Jedi Knights
 * Vector Prime
 * Dark Tide I: Onslaught
 * Agents of Chaos I: Hero's Trial
 * Balance Point
 * Edge of Victory II: Rebirth
 * Star by Star
 * Enemy Lines I: Rebel Dream
 * Destiny's Way
 * Force Heretic I: Remnant
 * Force Heretic II: Refugee
 * Or Die Trying
 * Force Heretic III: Reunion
 * Dark Nest I: The Joiner King
 * Dark Nest II: The Unseen Queen
 * Dark Nest III: The Swarm War

What?
I'm not arguing this. I just don't ever recall reading anything where Vader recognized him and ordered his destruction. Did that really happen? Is it actually canon?--Hobbie 18:34, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


 * It's in an issue of the Star Wars Tales comic series that was canonized.-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 18:53, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
 * See Thank the Maker! -- Ozzel 19:50, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Other 3POs
Is there any mention of other versions of him? I recall reading mention of M-3PO droids and others with similar names and programming, although there have been enough explanations of droid names (Some facts here conflict with the naming conventions in The New Rebellion) that anyone trying to narrow down an origin would be even more confused, but they should be mentioned.137.99.184.148 07:56, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Improvement drive
Looks like we have a new record: 3 times on the Improvement Drive. Now we need a new template. So if one of our code people could modify Template:IDformer2 and make a Template:IDformer3, that would be great. -- Ozzel 08:06, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

On pg. 79 of Tempest...
There is a rather interesting quote that, frankly, confirms what I've known all along. If C-3PO was an 'organic meatbag', he would not be an entirely straight one, if you get my drift... ;-)--Goodwood 04:40, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * If you refer to "the palace will be filled with handsome young men today", It doesn't prove anything at all. --Petiflo 18:43, 29 December 2006 (UTC)


 * In the same paragraph he also says "Droids are unable to salivate".--Goodwood 18:53, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Starwars tales section non-canon?
Well, after reading the article, I noticed the whole Starwars tales was most likely non-canon... I kind of thing there should be a non-canon message for the starwars tales paragraph... I also think Starwars tales should be put in the non-canon appearences with, in brackets the word possibly or something...

Six million forms of communication
Is there ever a point where Threepio finishes that sentance? "I'm fluent in over six million forms of communication and can regularly...." Just wondering. 71.162.91.19 12:37, 25 January 2007 (UTC)Col Dendi
 * i think its probably " and can regulary adapt to new languades and memorise new words" just a guess though ;)86.112.219.183 15:57, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Driving abilities
Threepio is driving Lukes' X-34 landspeeder when they go to Mos Eisley (or looking for Artoo, I don't remember). Luke is giving him some advices for the direction. Shouldn't we state this in the article?... It's weird to think Threepio as a driver, as we know him to be so awkward and emotional. :-) Klow 19:50, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * He also flew the Millennium Falcon in Shadows of the Empire. Adamwankenobi 19:57, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Interesting! Another reason to mention it. Klow 12:40, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Awkward picture placement
The images on the "Behind the scenes" section overlap both the text and eachother, and I really can't figure out how to fix it. 83.255.67.167 23:52, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Abilities section?
I was wondering is 3PO could use one of those. In addition to being fluent in 6 million forms for communication and etiquette, he has shown remarkable combat skills as well. At least for him. In Star Wars Droids 2: The Ultimate Weapon, he smashed up a bunch of hover guards, punching them with his fists until they were scrap. In Star Wars Droids 3: The Scarlet Pirate, he showed some Kung Fu-like dodging skills, ducking below an attacking pirate, flooring him. And in Star Wars Droids 5: Separated, he averted the assassination of Prince Jagoda by going toe-to-toe with the assassin droid BX-00 -and won! There is probably more, but you catch my drift. DarthMRN 17:00, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

human-CYBORG relations
Why does C3PO say this? Makes no sense. His function at that time is Protocol Droid. And even if he meant to say that he can also translate Droid-speech like R2D2's, why didn't he say "Human-DROID relations"?--TeakHoken91.7.20.85 15:11, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Think of it as a mistake made by Lucas, akin to "we made the Kessel run in less than twelve parsecs''". Unit 8311 10:09, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

First degree droid
In Star Wars Droids: The Kalarba Adventures 6, 3po claims to be a first level droid. At first glance, this might sound like an old SW thing, or an attempt by 3po to validate himself as an excellent droid. However, this statement raises a few questions. Later in the same comic, Zed calls Grozbok a fifth-level oaf. This is interesting in that Grozbok is a labour droid, classified as a fifth degree droid, leading me to speculate that both Zed and 3po's claims to being first level droids mean that they are actually first degree droids. However, as 3po is a protocol droid, he should only be of third degree, and Zed should only be of second. This seeming inconsistency I theorize is the result of Metaprogramming, which would mean that droids actually consciously increase in degree as a result of their own mental evolution. But regardless of the correctness of my theory, 3po is a first-level (or degree) droid, from the horse's own mouth. This certainly should have a place in the article. DarthMRN 00:23, 10 July 2007 (UTC) it may be human, cyborg relations as in he can serve humans and cyborgs