Forum:SH:Project Wookiee: Wookieepedia's First Barn-burner!

Welcome! Welcome to Wookieepedia's first tri/tetra/we'll decide later-monthly barn-burner. In lieu of any actual barns to burn down, we've decided to promote a bunch of articles to Featured, Good, and Comprehensive status instead.

There are several purposes to this project. We're hoping that it will bring the community together and allow us to work toward a fun and positive goal, share tips on article-writing and editing, and generally support and help each other out. It will also hopefully result in a number of new articles brought to FA, GA, and CA status. If we get enough Featured Articles out of the deal, we could even arrange something on Wookieepedia's main page similar to last year's Grand Admiral week.

The goal is to collectively write a number of articles on a common theme and promote them all to Featured, Good, and Comprehensive status. In honor of our wiki's namesake, we've chosen our first barn-burning theme to be Wookiees.



Listen to what the hairy beasts say! We want you to join this project. Yes, you! You, the person reading this page! Whether you be an administrator or someone who hasn't created an account yet, whether you have 100 or zero Featured Articles to your name, we want you in on this. This is a community-wide project where everybody will be helping everybody else, and if you've always wanted to get your feet wet in the status-article writing business, this is a great opportunity for you.

To participate, all you have to do is choose a Wookiee or two (or three, or seven, or twenty), write a complete article, and bring it to one of the status article nomination pages. If you're absolutely unfamiliar with the difference between a Featured, a Good, and a Comprehensive article, no worries. Ask for help below!

We're hoping to get this project going for the beginning of May, so take the following ten days and think about which Wookiees interest you the most. Feel free to sign up for a project and even start working on it before May, but let's save all nominations for the first of May at the very earliest. Menkooroo 08:12, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

I want to participate, but I have no idea what to write!
Fear not, valiant soldier. There are literally hundreds of Wookiees in Star Wars canon, most of whom have not been promoted to any kind of status. All you need to do is browse through Category:Wookiees and find a furry friend who tickles your fancy. ... Wow, that sounds wrong when you say it out loud. Anyway. Browsing through categories is boring, so here are some suggestions for ya. Anybody is welcome and encouraged to add to this list; it isn't intended to be comprehensive or anything, but rather just a good starting point.

Wookiees from Revenge of the Sith:
 * Tarfful: This project would take some effort, but I also think you would have a great time doing it.
 * Merumeru: The dude who stands up and yells "Rawwwrrrr!' in the movie. Also one of the three dudes in Wookieepedia's welcome message.
 * Lachichuk: Dude from the welcome message #2.
 * Guanta: Welcome message dude #3!
 * Grakchawwaa: Also in Deep Forest.
 * Eugroothwa: One more!

Star Wars Galaxies Wookiees: Galaxies had an expansion pack all about Wookiees, so if you have the game, you might be able to tell us something about Achonnko, Anarra, Ykkysno, the Spirit Guide, or any of a host of others.

Wookiees with only one or two appearances/sources to their name: There are actually quite a few of these guys and gals. Prime Good Article candidates, for sure. These would be fun projects that wouldn't require arduous amounts of research. Despite what their "Sources" section might say, you should probably check to see if they have an entry in The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia if they appeared in something that was published before 2008.
 * Ryyk (Wookiee): Poor guy watched Mandos butcher his entire family.
 * Khyyynett: Some sort of musician?
 * Reerookachuck: He killed twenty slavers!
 * Rakikta: The Black sands of Socorro!
 * Chorrawl and Freyyr: Two badass dudes from Knights of the Old Republic
 * Katykam: He's dead!
 * Rorworr (Kashyyyk): He's dead too! And he's from KOTOR!
 * Hahrynyar: This guy is responsible for the destruction of the Death Star. Seriously.
 * Nawruun: I would not wanna whip this guy for several years straight.
 * Old Tojjelnoot: This fella has no beef with Chewbacca.
 * Tojjevvuk: Poor, poor Albino.
 * Vorlocca: More Wookiee Jedi!
 * Wurokkk: An eccentric, avant-garde Wookiee composer.
 * Frorral: Page's Commandos. 'Nuff said.
 * Gumbaeki: Cool guy who hung out with Quinlan Vos for a little while.
 * Rashtah: This Wookiee was a slave trader and a pirate. Obi-Wan Kenobi, on the other hand, was a Wookiee murderer.
 * Weebacca: Successfully managed to piss of Chewbacca!

Misc. Wookiees that would be fun FA projects:
 * Dewlannamapia: She fricking raised Han Solo! Did you see that??
 * Chak: Legacy, hooray!
 * Ralrracheen: He can talk!
 * Kerrithrarr: Actually, this is a project already well-underway by
 * Triebakk: Because you know you love The New Jedi Order!
 * Chalmun: Just keep in mind that any mention of "Chalmun's Cantina" is a mention of this guy, too. :D

Chewbacca's family: Chewie has a very large extended family. Being a member of this family tree automatically makes you awesome. And a few of these Wookiees have actually only appeared in a little bit of canon.
 * Kriyystak: The family's prize tracker!
 * Kallabow: Chewie's lovable sister.
 * Dryanta: Cousin from Tyrant's Test number 1!
 * Jowdrrl: Cousin from Tyrant's Test number 2!
 * Shoran: Cousin from Tyrant's Test number 3!
 * Raabakyysh: Not quite a member of the family... but some day.
 * Vargi: Mallatobuck's traitorous brother.
 * Utchakkaloch: Han Solo's brother??

And, for some more ambitious projects in Chewie's family...
 * Lowbacca, Mallatobuck, or Attichitcuk. You know you want to! :P

I want to sign up!
Do it! We want you on our team. Feel free to choose any Wookiee and sign up for them here. This'll be a handy way to keep track of who's doing what so that we can avoid edit conflicts.


 * Lachichuk
 * Jowdrrl
 * Kallaarac
 * Dalborra
 * Rikummee
 * Lofryyhn
 * Gyylghrard
 * Ralrracheen
 * Guanta, and maybe GrimGrim
 * Lobarorr
 * Wurokkk
 * Dewlannamapia
 * Weebacca
 * Sunchoo
 * Hahrynyar
 * Talking bone
 * Chatook
 * Takook
 * Krepauk
 * Athnalu
 * Knuckles of the katarn
 * Factryn meat pie, Frozen gorrnar, Fried Klak, Tree-drum music
 * Isshaddik

I need some sources
Let's help each other out with tracking down some obscure sources. Especially those pesky CSWE entries. :P If you need someone to check something for you, ask for help here.

Lachichuk and Jowdrrl CSWE entries?

 * I'm hoping that someone can give me the CSWE entries on Lachichuk and Jowdrrl. Could you also see what Merumeru's entry has to say, if anything, about Lachichuk? Thanks. Menkooroo 08:12, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * "Lachichuk One of the many Wookiee warriors who defended Kashyyyk and the city of Kachirho during the Clone Wars. After Order 66, Lachichuk was among the Wookiees who met Olee Starstone and her group of Jedi survivors when they arrived on Kashyyyk."
 * "Jowdrrl One of Chewbacca's many cousins, she was a ship's systems expert. Jowdrrl worked with Katarra to subvert the Imperial presence on Kashyyyk. When Chewbacca returned to Kashyyyk for his son Lumpawarump's Test of Ascension, Jowdrrl worked with Dryanta on fine-tuning the Millennium Falcon. They improved many of the ship's systems, including refinements to the weapons and a 360-degree head-up display unit. She once accompanied Chewbacca on a mission to rescue Han Solo during the Yevethan crisis.".
 * "Merumeru [&hellip;] Among the capable warriors following him into battle were Guanta, Lachichuk, and Salporin." ~  Savage  BOB sig.png 15:57, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * I know that Merumeru is mentioned in Star Wars Chronicles: The Prequels, so I'm thinking there's a very slight chance that Lachichuk is as well. Could somebody check that out for me? Thanks a million if you can. Menkooroo 08:12, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Here's the line (from the image of the Wookiee ROAAARRR!!!! from ROTS): "The Wookiee Captain Merumeru leads the beachfront defense of Kachiroho, followed by ranks of loyal volunteers. Emerging from behind armored revetments, the Wookiees let out a mighty roar that would terrify any non-droid opponent. Among the Wookiee warriors present are Guanta, a grizzled elder; Lachichik, the famed hunter; and Salporin, master of the blade." (p. 267). There's also some info that due to production schedule SNAFUs, the Creature Departmet had to scramble to get all the Wookiees ready for shooting in summer 2003. The Wookiee scenes were shot after principal photography had been completed, and were done in two sessions. Lucas directed the Tarfful/Chewie stuff, but Animation Supervisor Rob Coleman did stuff with other Wookiees. (p. 267). Also potentially relevant: "The Wookiee costumes were the single biggest task for the Episode III Creature Department. As the production was basedin Sydney, all the Wookiee extras were found locally, and they included basketball players and a prison security guard. These performers were fitted with sculpted muscle suits covered in stretchy material knitted with modacrylic hair." (p. 266) ~  Savage  BOB sig.png 15:57, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Wow! Thank you so much for the info. You've gone above and beyond the call of duty to type out all of that Chronicles info. You are wonderful! Although I'm a little bummed that not a single source gives a sex for Lachichuk. Not even his/her CSWE entry. Weird. Menkooroo 06:42, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Wurokkk and Weebacca
There are no sources listed, so... MasterFred (Whatever) 18:34, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nothing on them in the CSWE. In case of Weebacca, though, you still have to check Galactic Battlegrounds: Prima's Official Strategy Guide. QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 09:16, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Gyylghrard

 * Any entries on this guy? Thanks. ToRsO bOy 11:03, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nothing in the CSWE. QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 19:39, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Possibly-asthmatic Hahrynyar

 * Anything for him? His sources say so.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 03:56, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * There's quite a lot, actually.

Hahrynyar An elderly Wookiee, he was part of the slave labor pool that built the first Death Star. Hahrynyar's pelt was almost entirely gray. He was stubborn and often appeared to forget that he could understand Basic. A natural-born leader and worker, he served as a crew chief on several projects, including the installation of thermal exhaust ports near the main exhaust port in Sector N-1. He got into an argument with Teelo Kaarz over the placement of secondary ports; she felt that the smaller ports should be moved, and said she would get authorization to do so. But Hahrynyar contracted an illness that left him with a ravaging cough and a high fever, and he was out of commission while the work on the secondary exhaust ports continued. Kaarz never did obtain the required authorization, and the secondary ports were installed just below the main port, something that one day would prove a fatal error. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 07:04, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sweet, thanks. I may try and get this to GAN, then, if I can get wordy enough.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 07:08, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Background check
Any entries for Kessel Correctional Facility or Spice Mines of Kessel? I'm still trying to wrap my head around the place. Thanks! ToRsO bOy 21:09, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Kessel Correctional Facility Despite its name, this medium-security prison facility was actually located on Kessel's Garrison Moon at the height of the New Order. Those prisoners who were physically unable to contribute to the mining of spice on Kessel itself, yet were too valuable to dispatch, were given menial duties at the facility.
 * Spice Mines of Kessel do not have their own entry. The only mention I could find was in

spice A name given to a variety of drugs, in particular the glitterstim spice mined underground on the planet Kessel. [&hellip;]  QuiGonJinn  (Talk) 08:47, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Dewlanna (who fricking raised Han Solo, mind you)
Can someone help me out with the info on Dewlannamapia from The New Essential Chronology? QuiGonJinn (Talk) 09:30, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, and from A Guide to the Star Wars Universe (Third Edition), too, please. QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 11:37, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * The Chronology: "The only bright spot in Han's early life was a kindly female Wookiee named Dewlanna, who worked for [Garris] Shrike as a cook and acted as the human boy's surrogate mother. She taught Han to speak and understand Shyriiwook." This was part of an IU biography of Han compiled by the Historical Council based on interviews with him. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 19:18, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

I want to talk about this project!
General chit-chat goes here. Menkooroo 08:12, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Is this only Wookiee characters we're talking here, or should we consider the stuff in Category:Wookiee culture fair game as well? ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 03:14, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * I was thinking the same thing. What about Kashyyyk and Wookiee Chieftain, a location and position respectively. Are these included? MasterFred Commerce Guild.svg(Whatever) 03:44, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * I say yes! Menkooroo 04:01, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Rawwrr?  JangFett  (Talk) 03:45, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Hasbro Wookiees
Any ideas on ID'ing any of these? ~ Savage   06:18, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Now, #1, 2, and 3 are the same guy. I think it's Grakchawwaa, but the outfit is more Salporin.
 * Nos. 4 and 5 have the same live-action portrait, but they have different decos on the toy itself. Not sure how we should handle them.
 * No. 6 is a repaint of 4 and 5; I think this is a new character, specific to Hasbro for this reason.
 * No. 9 (two characters) are repaints of #1. They are not likely to represent any specific characters and are thus probably unique to Hasbro.
 * No. 10 is another repaint of #1. He must be intended to represent someone in the comic.
 * Now, #1, 2, and 3 are the same guy. I think it's Grakchawwaa, but the outfit is more Salporin.
 * Nos. 4 and 5 have the same live-action portrait, but they have different decos on the toy itself. Not sure how we should handle them.
 * No. 6 is a repaint of 4 and 5; I think this is a new character, specific to Hasbro for this reason.
 * No. 9 (two characters) are repaints of #1. They are not likely to represent any specific characters and are thus probably unique to Hasbro.
 * No. 10 is another repaint of #1. He must be intended to represent someone in the comic.
 * Now, #1, 2, and 3 are the same guy. I think it's Grakchawwaa, but the outfit is more Salporin.
 * Nos. 4 and 5 have the same live-action portrait, but they have different decos on the toy itself. Not sure how we should handle them.
 * No. 6 is a repaint of 4 and 5; I think this is a new character, specific to Hasbro for this reason.
 * No. 9 (two characters) are repaints of #1. They are not likely to represent any specific characters and are thus probably unique to Hasbro.
 * No. 10 is another repaint of #1. He must be intended to represent someone in the comic.
 * I think I've worked out that #4 is Lachichuk. The photo used for #4 and #5 is him, so it would make sense that the figure who actually has his colors (#4) is indeed him. The repaints of him (#5 and #6) seem to be impostors of some sort. #7 is Guanta per its live-action photo. #1, 2, and 3 are Grakchawwaa per their live-action photos. Menkooroo 06:27, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * One other consideration is that, according to the Databank entry on Wookiees, there were only 8 Wookiee costumes created for Revenge of the Sith (9 if you include Chewbacca), and these were replicated digitally for all Wookiees in the battle of Kashyyyk. For that reason, I'm not sure if we can really say definitively that these unnamed Hasbro Wookiees are supposed to be Guanta, Salporin, Grakchawwaa, etc. Or maybe we can; what do others think? At the very least, its' worth mentioning the Hasbro figures in the BTS's of these characters. ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 03:36, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... I think we can definitively state that the live-action images used on the cardbacks are images of the actors in the suit rather than of digital replicas. So at the very least, I think we could say in the bts "An image of Guanta/Lachichuk/Frank the Wookiee was included with the figure, and the figure was based off of his likeness." I'd also lobby for including the figures in the Sources section without a, save for the Lachichuk figure that definitely isn't Lachichuk and probably merits a . Menkooroo 06:40, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I could go for that. There may be more negotiation to be done on the FAN or GAN pages, but we can handle it when it comes up. ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 15:28, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Who's that Wookiee?
OK, so in the image to the right here, we have most of the ROTS Wookiee costumes on view. There's an alternate version of this on p. 156 of The Making of Star Wars Revenge of the Sith that is basically the same lineup of Wookiees, in the same order, but with Rick McCallum in the middle. The caption on the opposite page says, "McCallum and Wookiee #5 (Axel Dench); #7 (David Stiff); #2 (Steven Foy); #1 (James Rowland); #6 (Julian Khazzouh); #4 (Robert Cope); #3 'Tarfful' (Michel Kingma)." Unfortunately, the author does not indicate whether he's counting off front row, back row; back row, front row; or going clockwise or counterclockwise. Based on the ID of Tarfful though, and based on any other Wookiee/actor associations we know, can we use Rinzler's info at all? ~ Savage   15:28, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Great find! Axel Dench is Merumeru per his databank entry on sw.com, and Salporin is David Stiff per his own DB entry. Merumeru is top row, third from the left, and Salporin is bottom row, first on the left. If the lineup is the same in The Making of ROTS as it is in this picture, then I can't make heads or tails of what the counting method is. Here is what we know for sure:

?   3    5    ?

7    ?     ?

This is a guess I'll hazard --- based on how they're standing in the McCallum image, would this make sense?

1  3   5   6

7   2    4

That way they'd be starting in the top left corner and then proceeding diagonally down/straight back up toward the right. Would that work? Menkooroo 16:34, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Answering my own question: I just got a hold of the book, and looking at the photo, my suggestion actually seems like a pretty big stretch. As far as identifying who played Guanta, Grakchawwaa, Lachichuk, and Eugroothwa, I think we might have to in each case say something like "This character was played by either Steven Foy, James Rowland, Julian Khazzouh, or Robert Cope." Even then, this is another fantastic find, Bob. Two days in, and you've already done all kinds of wonders for this project. :D Menkooroo 17:44, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I think Rinzler just got lazy and didn't even try to identify which Wookiee was which. At least now we know what the "on-set" names of a few of the Wookiees were (the numbers). As for this stuff, I love BTS info, and Wookiees are kind of like big Ewoks. I'm actually disappointed that ILM took the easy way out and just copy and pasted the same seven or eight Wookiees over and over. At least in ROTJ, they actually had a bunch of actors, each with a unique costume! Lazy, lazy, lazy, Lucas! ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 20:48, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Template and project page
I say we make a template to put on the talk page of these articles. If need be, I could help make one. It would just say something along the lines of, " was nominated to FA/GA/CA status as part of the May 2011 Wookie-related barn-burner." Also, I am willing to (and would enjoy) keeping up with these on a page in my userspace. I know we're aiming to make it as simple and non-official as possible. That's why I'd keep it in my userspace instead of making a project for it. All I would do is keep track of what articles reached status due to the project. Maybe a before and after like thing. Anyone opposed to me doing these two things? MasterFred (Whatever) 20:29, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's a good idea, but I think has already set something up for this in his userspace. Check out User:Eyrezer/Atrivis. ~  Savage  BOB sig.png 20:34, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

More ROTS Wookiees
Below is a list of all known adaptations, tie-ins, and peripheral material related to Revenge of the Sith (all that I know of, anyway). I've started to go through it and identify which Wookiees appear in which sources for the benefit of anyone doing movie Wookiees for the barn-burner. I've crossed through the sources I've checked; feel free to pitch in, though. It's quite a task! ~ Savage   04:15, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Adaptations

 * Episode III: Revenge of the Sith Storybook (Chewbacca, Merumeru (po), Tarfful)
 * Obi-Wan's Foe (none)
 * Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (comics)
 * Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith 1
 * Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith 2
 * Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith 3 (Chewbacca, Tarfful)
 * Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith 4
 * Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (trade paperback)</s (Chewbacca, Tarfful)
 * Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (junior novelization) (Chewbacca, Tarfful)
 * Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (novel) (none)
 * Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (PhotoComic) (Merumeru and anyone in the Wookiee ROAR! image, Tarfful, Chewbacca)
 * Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (video game)
 *  Star Wars Episode III Revenge of the Sith: Illustrated Screenplay (Merumeru, any Wookiees behind him in the Wookiee ROAR! image, Chewbacca, Tarfful)
 * Star Wars Revenge of the Sith (Interactive Play-A-Sound)

Tie-ins

 * Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith (toy line) (Tarfful, Chewbacca, Lachichuk (po?), Guanta (po?), Grakchawwaa (po?))
 * Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith (Funfax)
 * Revenge of the Sith: Incredible Cross-Sections
 * Revenge of the Sith: The Visual Dictionary
 * Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith Movie Scrapbook
 * Star Wars Miniatures: Revenge of the Sith
 * Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith Ultimate Sticker Book
 * Revenge of the Sith (trading-card game)
 * Episode III: Revenge of the Sith: Prima Official Game Guide
 * Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (soundtrack)
 * Star Wars Revenge of the Sith: MasterWorks Lithographic Art Print Collection (Merumeru, any Wookiees behind him in the Wookiee ROAR! image)

Behind the scenes

 * Episode III Set Diary
 * Episode III Post Notes
 * The Making of Star Wars Revenge of the Sith
 * The Art of Revenge of the Sith
 * Star Wars Chronicles: The Prequels
 * Revenge: The Real Life Story of Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith

Some handy references

 * Category:Wookiees: Go nuts.
 * Wookieepedia's Manual of Style and Layout Guide: for instructions on how to format an article
 * Four Dot's Character Article Tutorial --- how to write a good Character article
 * Bigfoot sightings: A place to report any encounters that become too close for comfort
 * How to put out a fire: Because those barns never did anything to us