Wookieepedia:AC/Log/2015 April 25

[20:03:47]  All right, welcome to AC meeting 78 [20:03:56]  first, discussion items [20:09:46]  Not from me [20:10:07] Nothing from me. [20:10:21]  onto the old articles then [20:10:36]  http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vischera [20:10:44]  http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=5511253 [20:10:49]  http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Vischera [20:10:59] Huh? [20:11:03] That's old. [20:11:18] Good article status removed at Meeting 77. Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 22:12, March 21, 2015 (UTC) [20:11:28]  oh apologies, I was getting it from meeting 77 [20:11:46]  http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ghoel [20:11:54]  http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=5582574 [20:12:00]  http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Ghoel [20:12:10]  previously extended [20:12:35]  I wish people knew how to use Citeweb right [20:12:40]  It'd make my life a little easier [20:13:21]  can you fix that now? [20:13:34]  Wait [20:13:49] <WookieeWinterz> the objections seems to have been handled [20:13:49] <Ralltiir> First of all, I can't believe there isn't a better source for this than some random guy's YouTube video [20:13:56] <Ralltiir> There are many reliable Star Wars collectors websites out there [20:14:06] <Ralltiir> Surely this thing is on there somewhere [20:14:16] <Ralltiir> Or better yet.. [20:14:20] <Ralltiir> We *make an article for it* [20:14:25] <Ralltiir> Novel idea :P [20:14:28] Yeah [20:14:37] <WookieeWinterz> sure [20:14:41] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jabba_The_Hutt_Throne_Room_Action_Scene [20:14:55] <Ralltiir> -_- [20:15:00] He made this in March. [20:15:24] <Ralltiir> I guess Eyrezer forgot how to source an article [20:16:08] Changed to use the article [20:17:11] Nevermind. [20:18:18] So, what are we going to do with this? [20:19:17] <Ralltiir> I almost don't know what to do with this [20:19:41] <Ralltiir> First of all, it's practically unreferenced, considering he couldn't create the actual source articles correctly [20:20:50] <Ralltiir> I'd like to stick this in some kind of citation template like we do for all toy sources, which an enterprising user would have done, but I guess I can't fault him for that since one doesn't explicitly exist at the moment [20:21:52] <Ralltiir> We can keep it, I guess, but it'll require someone to clean up his mess [20:22:26] Well, if no one does anything, this thing is just going to get reviewed again. [20:22:37] So, we could save time and just extend it. [20:22:45] <Ralltiir> How do you mean reviewed again? [20:23:05] If those articles are deleted, redlinks will be added. [20:23:20] <Ralltiir> I mean, we could keep it and one of us here would have to fix those articles [20:23:29] And since that is against the GA rules, it will be up for review. [20:23:42] <Ralltiir> It's not tough, it just takes time to go through and find external links, which is annoying and not something we should be responsible for [20:24:10] <Ralltiir> It's up to you guys [20:24:17] <Ralltiir> I'd rather just do it ourselves, franklyh [20:24:24] That's fine. [20:24:25] <Ralltiir> I don't trust Eyrezer to do anything right [20:24:36] As long as someone does it right. [20:24:46] Keep and fix I guess. [20:24:52] <Ralltiir> Sure [20:25:45] Winterz? ecks? [20:26:27] <Ralltiir> Winterz is afk briefly [20:26:55] <Ralltiir> ecks may be suffering from PTSD [20:29:44] <Ralltiir> Floyd is coming in 15 minutes if they don't return [20:34:48] <WookieeWinterz> back [20:35:03] <Ralltiir> Are you still running it? [20:35:09] <WookieeWinterz> sure [20:35:16] <WookieeWinterz> Keep [20:36:01] <WookieeWinterz> what say you, Tope? [20:36:11] <Ralltiir> I said "Sure" :P [20:36:37] <WookieeWinterz> alright Ghoel kept [20:36:57] <Ralltiir> EJ, I have no idea how or why I just reverted you on Ghoel [20:37:06] <WookieeWinterz> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mubasa_hock [20:37:21] <WookieeWinterz> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=5632071 [20:37:26] <WookieeWinterz> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Mubasa_hock [20:37:31] <Ralltiir> Don't use the meeting page or anything, Ayrehead [20:37:43] <WookieeWinterz> objection was handled [20:37:44] <Ralltiir> That change is not...good [20:37:53] <Ralltiir> The dish isn't inherently "expensive" [20:38:02] <Ralltiir> It's expensive because that's what restaurants charge for it [20:38:06] <Ralltiir> It should be explained in that context [20:38:38] <Ralltiir> I wouldn't even put that in the Description section [20:38:42] <Ralltiir> I'd put it in the History [20:38:52] I didn't think about that, but yeah, you're right. [20:39:13] <Ralltiir> Send it back :P [20:39:30] <WookieeWinterz> so how do you want to proceed? [20:39:34] <Ralltiir> Send it back :P [20:39:50] <WookieeWinterz> you mean extend? [20:40:00] <Ralltiir> Yes [20:40:08] Extend [20:40:10] <WookieeWinterz> alrighty, extend [20:40:21] <WookieeWinterz> Mubasa extended [20:40:36] <WookieeWinterz> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Shadowsuit [20:40:40] <WookieeWinterz> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=5632079 [20:40:48] <WookieeWinterz> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Shadowsuit [20:40:55] <WookieeWinterz> no change [20:40:58] Kill [20:41:01] <WookieeWinterz> kill [20:41:05] <Ralltiir> Kill [20:41:12] <WookieeWinterz> Shadowsuit killed [20:41:21] <WookieeWinterz> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Transe_Decar [20:41:26] <WookieeWinterz> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=5632085 [20:41:31] <Ralltiir> Long story short here: [20:41:31] <WookieeWinterz> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Transe_Decar [20:41:44] <Ralltiir> We probed because it had an AT-AT program redlink or whatever it was called [20:41:54] <Ralltiir> Hanzo showed me the text from the game [20:42:10] Oh, he obtained the source? [20:42:15] <Ralltiir> It just makes a broad reference to the AT-At's development history, all of which just belongs in the AT-AT article [20:42:22] <Ralltiir> He found a copy of the game text on a website [20:42:26] Ah [20:42:28] <Ralltiir> So we just removed the redlink [20:42:34] <Ralltiir> It was pointless and unnecessary [20:42:36] That's fine then. [20:42:38] <Ralltiir> So, keep [20:42:39] Keep [20:42:54] <WookieeWinterz> keep [20:43:04] <WookieeWinterz> Transe kept. [20:43:18] <WookieeWinterz> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Unidentified_Naboo_merchant [20:43:22] <WookieeWinterz> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=5632088 [20:43:27] <WookieeWinterz> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Unidentified_Naboo_merchant [20:43:56] <WookieeWinterz> objections were handled [20:44:23] <IFYLOFD> PRESENT [20:44:40] <Ralltiir> hi Floyd [20:44:43] <Ralltiir> Ok, new issue for this article [20:44:52] <WookieeWinterz> flo [20:44:53] <Ralltiir> I don't understand exactly what this LucasForums citation is attempting to reference [20:45:02] <Ralltiir> It looks like a bunch of unofficial fan chatter and speculation [20:45:38] <Ralltiir> Unless this "Jedi72" guest poster is a game developer or something, which I see no indication of [20:46:31] Sorry guys, I've got to go. [20:46:53] <WookieeWinterz> hard to say [20:47:09] <WookieeWinterz> it does look like Sean though [20:47:11] <WookieeWinterz> :P [20:47:13] <IFYLOFD> Which one is this? [20:47:15] <Ralltiir> That's not the issue [20:47:21] <WookieeWinterz> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Unidentified_Naboo_merchant [20:47:28] <Ralltiir> The issue is whether we can say it definitively with an official source, as this article is attempting to do [20:47:47] <Ralltiir> It actually appears that "Zanzibar" is the possible game developer, though again I see no indication [20:48:05] <WookieeWinterz> I guess it all resolves around the users' credibility [20:48:32] <Ralltiir> Which is zero unless they're attached to the project [20:48:38] <WookieeWinterz> I don't even know this website [20:49:01] <Ralltiir> Zanzibar looks like he is a game developer from other posts in the forum [20:49:05] <Ralltiir> That should be explained in the citation [20:49:26] <Ralltiir> The specific post should be cited in this forum [20:49:47] <Ralltiir> There are actually multiple posts that should be cited here [20:49:53] <WookieeWinterz> very well [20:49:57] <Ralltiir> Send it back :P [20:49:59] <WookieeWinterz> extend [20:50:17] <WookieeWinterz> use the magic words, dude! [20:50:25] <Ralltiir> Extend [20:50:36] <WookieeWinterz> Floyd? [20:50:46] <Ralltiir> Pro-tip theme of this meeting: [20:50:47] <IFYLOFD> Extend [20:50:50] <Ralltiir> Don't try to half-ass your referencing [20:51:03] <WookieeWinterz> Naboo merchant extended [20:51:25] <WookieeWinterz> fresh new articles for the butcher now [20:51:32] <WookieeWinterz> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Donni_Bratz [20:51:39] <WookieeWinterz> Unsourced, incorrect Quote formatting, seriously lacking linking, probably need to reload the infobox. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:49, April 16, 2015 (UTC) [20:51:47] <WookieeWinterz> okay, so it's a mess [20:51:54] <Ralltiir> lolz [20:51:56] <Ralltiir> Probe [20:52:09] <WookieeWinterz> probe [20:52:35] <IFYLOFD> probe [20:52:54] <WookieeWinterz> Donnie Brasco probed [20:53:09] <WookieeWinterz> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Billal_Batross [20:53:15] <IFYLOFD> Bill Albatross [20:53:16] <WookieeWinterz> Infobox-exclusive info, no bold formatting in comic quotes, I can't even believe Reference 4 is really a thing. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:49, April 16, 2015 (UTC) [20:53:30] <WookieeWinterz> isn't that yours, Floyd? [20:53:39] <IFYLOFD> Nope [20:53:42] <Ralltiir> It's Mauser's [20:53:46] <Ralltiir> Probe [20:53:49] <IFYLOFD> Probe [20:54:40] <IFYLOFD> WINTERZ. [20:54:40] <WookieeWinterz> what's the issue with reference 4, Tope? [20:54:57] <Ralltiir> Did you read it? [20:55:15] <IFYLOFD> It's pretty terrible [20:55:19] <WookieeWinterz> speculative [20:55:24] <WookieeWinterz> then again, I'm not into KOTOR [20:55:31] <WookieeWinterz> alrighty, probe [20:55:34] <IFYLOFD> ? [20:55:39] <IFYLOFD> This isn't a KOTOR article [20:55:55] <WookieeWinterz> oh gosh, I'm a bit sleepy today [20:56:05] <WookieeWinterz> ANYWAY [20:56:13] <WookieeWinterz> Bill probed. [20:56:30] <WookieeWinterz> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/T%27doshok_%28bounty_hunter%29 [20:56:37] <WookieeWinterz> Infobox-exclusive info. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:29, April 16, 2015 (UTC) [20:56:47] <Ralltiir> This actually shouldn't have been listed [20:56:48] <Ralltiir> My bad [20:56:50] <Ralltiir> It's fine [20:57:14] <WookieeWinterz> spare then [20:57:31] <Ralltiir> We don't even need to vote [20:57:38] <IFYLOFD> OK [20:57:49] <WookieeWinterz> fine [20:57:51] <WookieeWinterz> next one [20:57:54] <WookieeWinterz> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tarkov [20:58:01] <WookieeWinterz> Infobox-exclusive info. Should probably have an Equipment section. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:29, April 16, 2015 (UTC) [20:58:54] <IFYLOFD> Andrei Tarkov, second-line center for the Anaheim Ducks [20:59:04] <Ralltiir> Probe [20:59:08] <WookieeWinterz> probe [20:59:09] <IFYLOFD> Probe [20:59:21] <WookieeWinterz> Tarkov probed [20:59:30] <WookieeWinterz> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ambition [20:59:39] <WookieeWinterz> Article needs to specify (First appearance) or (First mentioned) Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:29, April 16, 2015 (UTC) [20:59:47] <Ralltiir> I find Hanzo's attempted fix here insufficient [21:00:03] <IFYLOFD> How so [21:00:10] <Ralltiir> He doesn't know that DarkStryder Campaign in the Sources list isn't the first mention [21:00:25] <IFYLOFD> Hmm [21:00:28] <IFYLOFD> Probe [21:00:31] <Ralltiir> He made a really poor, rushed effort to try and fix the articles listed on the meeting page [21:00:43] <Ralltiir> Probe [21:01:07] <WookieeWinterz> probe [21:01:11] <WookieeWinterz> Ambition probed [21:01:20] <WookieeWinterz> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Galney_%28Ducha_of_Terephon%29 [21:01:25] <WookieeWinterz> No references Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 17:30, April 25, 2015 (UTC) [21:01:30] <IFYLOFD> Hah [21:01:32] <IFYLOFD> That's mine [21:01:35] <WookieeWinterz> I wonder how these articles still manage to evade us [21:01:39] <WookieeWinterz> oh, so that's how. [21:01:43] <IFYLOFD> I remember when we didn't have to ref single-source articles [21:01:54] <IFYLOFD> I'll get it done [21:02:01] <Ralltiir> Just make sure you reference the dates correctly if need be [21:02:04] <IFYLOFD> She's only in Tempest [21:02:07] <IFYLOFD> Yeah [21:02:19] <IFYLOFD> Pretty sure the date is mentioned in the book [21:02:30] <Ralltiir> If not, it'll be in ERC [21:03:26] <WookieeWinterz> can you handle it today or this weekend, Floyd? [21:03:30] <IFYLOFD> Yeah [21:03:43] <WookieeWinterz> spare then [21:04:09] <Ralltiir> I would just source it to ERC, actually [21:04:14] <Ralltiir> Spare [21:04:43] <WookieeWinterz> Floyd [21:04:48] <IFYLOFD> spurr [21:04:57] <WookieeWinterz> Galney spurred. [21:05:14] <WookieeWinterz> let me check if there's anything else [21:06:29] <WookieeWinterz> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ashka_Boda [21:06:44] <WookieeWinterz> apparently update needed [21:06:55] <WookieeWinterz> but I'm not sure what the heck is this source [21:06:56] <Ralltiir> An update for a redlink [21:06:58] <Ralltiir> That's helpful [21:07:11] <WookieeWinterz> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tensor_rifle also has it [21:07:33] <Ralltiir> We have no idea where this even comes from [21:07:37] <Ralltiir> Is this on SW.com? [21:08:04] <WookieeWinterz> no clue, I guess someone could ask AV-6R7 about it [21:08:12] <WookieeWinterz> and we'll handle it next meeting [21:08:21] <Ralltiir> I'm not voting to probe something with insufficient info for what needs probing [21:08:36] <Ralltiir> [21:08:52] <WookieeWinterz> that's what I meant [21:09:33] <WookieeWinterz> so that's it for articles [21:09:48] <WookieeWinterz> just wanted to note that there's one in the redux [21:10:05] <WookieeWinterz> and that's it. C'est fini. [21:10:28] <WookieeWinterz> anything else to add? [21:11:02] <Ralltiir> Meeting duties [21:11:11] <WookieeWinterz> yes I meant before that :P [21:11:20] <WookieeWinterz> well, guess not [21:11:35] <WookieeWinterz> EJ on paperwork duty [21:11:49] <WookieeWinterz> Cav schedules next meeting [21:12:06] <Ralltiir> Thanks for hosting, Winterz [21:12:10] <WookieeWinterz> Meeting 78 is hereby concluded. [21:12:14] <WookieeWinterz> thanks for coming