Talk:Conan Antonio Motti/Legends

Romodi
What is the source for the first name of "Romodi" for Admiral Motti? -- Riffsyphon1024 05:03, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I've done a search on this. It appears 'Romodi' was used in desperation. In the Star Wars novelization, there is an officer called Romodi in the place of Motti. This may have been mistaken to be his first name. Then again, maybe not... http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/admiralmotti/?id=bts
 * It says that was a different character that was replaced by Motti. I would strike "Romodi". --SparqMan 03:09, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * I checked the novelization today. Romodi and Motti are different characters in the book. Romodi should be struck. --SparqMan 02:36, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Rank
In A New Hope, Motti had the rank Insignia of a Commodore when he, in actuality, was an admiral. Why?--Herbsewell 00:04, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Really. A Commodore. I thought he was a Rear Admiral or a Vice Admiral? Jedi Wolf 3:56, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Conan Antonio Motti
LMAO! It really can't be disputed. It's from the man himself, or, as Lucas puts it, "the big G". Adamwankenobi 05:13, 2 May 2007 (UTC) You can't assume things Lucas has said outside of the context of Lucasfilm itself are canon. As Leland Chee says, "But when taking George's statements into account for the Holocron's continuity notes, I have to consider a) when the statement was made (something he said from the 70's may no longer pertain to his current vision of Star Wars), b) the source of the statement (a non-LFL sources could be a misquote), and c) the context of the statement (was George making a joke or off-the cuff remark? Was it something said to someone behind-the-scenes to elicit a certain performance, not necessarily part of continuity?) There are relatively few notes from George in the Holocron that are derived from public statements; most of the notes from him are from things that George gives to Licensing directly." jSarek 08:23, 2 May 2007 (UTC) Well. Seems that the whole 'Conan Antonio Motti' thing was just a joke. As said by the Late Night with Conan O'Brien Web Blog. 64.231.164.88 02:33, 3 May 2007 (UTC) If an off-the-cuff comment during an interview counts as G-canon, then Yoda's species is officially "frog", right? -- SM-716 talk? 21:15, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh man, Star Wars canon is awesome and hilarious. Kaje 05:16, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I never imagined we'd be using Late Night with Conan O'Brien as a source. LOL! Adamwankenobi 05:34, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Complete Bullshit. Lucas was joking and so that does not make this canon until it is established in a Lucas approved publication. --  Riffsyphon  1024 06:00, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * How do we know he was joking? And even if he was, that doesn't necessarily stop it from being canon. Havac 06:08, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * True, but on a comedy show? --  Riffsyphon  1024 06:17, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * If he'd wanted to joke, he could have called him "Admiral Conan" or "Conan O'Chokebait" or "Larry". Taking the time to get the name "Motti" right suggests it wasn't a completely off-the-wall answer. Havac 06:47, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Apparently there is an actual person named Antonio Motti. Adamwankenobi 06:52, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Larry is already taken. And that's just weird. --  Riffsyphon  1024 06:59, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I was going for something like this when I heard of it, but I lack JSarek's ability to tap Chee's quotes. So, what the hell: I went with it. Still, there are any number of ways to shut this issue down. Most specifically, the new Visual Guide feature on the official website can put this to bed as soon as they get to the conference room sequence. Give him a name, it's done. If they did it for Wermis, they can do it for Motti. But somebody'd better check with Lucas first, or somebody will have egg on their face, and it certainly won't be him. Erik Pflueger [[Image:Galactic_Republic.JPG|20px]] 12:43, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Wookieepedia has influenced canon before. Havac 05:17, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * That's not something we should be aspiring to. We shouldn't have anything acanonical to be influencing canon in the first place. Everytime we influence canon, it means we have failed in our duties in some way. jSarek 08:53, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I would venture that Padawan Masacre an Jedi Exile are permissible, due to them being legit conjecture. But this is too far. Where's the common sense that slapped the non-canon tag on the little Fett? Thefourdotelipsis 09:17, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * This is the biggest load of crap. This is not canon. - JMAS 02:30, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Absolutely. And it shouldn't even come to a vote. How about the Colbert thing? Is that canon? Thefourdotelipsis 02:42, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * My suggestion: Change any reference of "Conan Antonio Motti" back to "Motti" and ask someone like Leland Chee. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Record of Imperial Service) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 13:00, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * We should wait until we get an answer just in case, in order to save any possible extra work. Adamwankenobi 21:32, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Except Lucas has said that was a joke. The most recent time someone has brought up Yoda's species (during his online moviephone Q&A with Hayden), he said he had never really gave Yoda a species. And then there was the time he joked that Anakin got his scar by slipping in the bathtub. But he then stated that it isn't his job, but rather Howard Roffman's, to come up with those details. But with Motti's full name, he said it halfway seriously, and never said it was a joke. I don't know. Let's just ask Chee. Adamwankenobi 21:32, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, there's nothing that contradicts this, unlike other aforementioned Lucas statements. -- Ozzel 22:30, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, did Lucas laugh when he said "Conan Antonio Motti", or was he serious? &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Record of Imperial Service) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 23:29, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Having seen the video, I think the best way to describe it would be "deadpan." But keep in mind it was in response to a serious attempt to "stump the creator" with a trivia question. Enochf 23:32, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, we need to ask an official now. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Record of Imperial Service) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 23:34, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * On late night talk shows, nothing is serious. jSarek 23:38, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * True. ;) But we need to ask Leland Chee ASAP. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Record of Imperial Service) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 23:40, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Also, about the "frog" thing: It's been outranked by higher canon. Nothing has established Motti's name any higher than this G-canon. I'm all for sticking the ambig tag until we have confirmation from Chee or some other official. Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 23:41, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I think it was pretty obviously a joke. A scripted joke. We all know that Mr Lucas don't put to much energy in memorizing all species and names in the SW-universe. The whole "this is not the real Vader suit" etc was a running gag climaxing in the "experts" challenge to George. The joke was that Lucas knew the answer, and also could add the characters first name (thus beeing master of his creation). But since the namne clearly was a nod to Conan O´Brian I don't think we should take it to serious. But then again, we DO have Canon characters with pretty silly names already...so....whatever =)--Draii 23:44, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Here's the thing. Many of the names for characters, especially those in the EU, are "in-jokes". I don't see how this is any different to, say, Elan Sleazbaggano. QuentinGeorge 11:26, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, we do have a green rabbit in canon already, plus a living mountain... &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Record of Imperial Service) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 00:29, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I say keep it at Conan. It's from Lucas himself, and there is nothing in the EU to contradict it (for the moment). Joke or not, the name itself isn't that farfetched. --Azizlight 01:24, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, not to be rude, Aziz or anyone else, but we're not the ones who can decide whether or not Lucas's statement was canon, after all. That's why we have to ask Leland Chee about this. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Record of Imperial Service) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 11:23, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The problem is, Mr. Chee hasn't been answering *any* questions lately. jSarek 11:45, 8 May 2007 (UTC)