Talk:Boba Fett/Legends

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Can we have a better main pisture of Boba?
Cant we have a better pictuer of Boba? the main one looks like hes sneaking away, and then he's like what, who's looking at me? WAIT DONT TAKE THAT PICTURE! oww man now I look like a fool. cant we have a better picture that shows him better, like I dont know, but like him in a battle pose or him in a more serious manner, he never did that in the films or in the books.
 * I personally think it's a very good image. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:49, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I like it too. If we had a canonicle one of him without the helmet, I'd opt for that though.-- Lord Oblivion Comlink[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 00:51, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I'd have to disagree with that, only because he was never publically seen without his armor, except in Bloodlines when he didn't want to be known as Boba Fett. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:52, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I love the current image. -- Ozzel 00:55, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Same here. Love how he's posed. -- Jabbathehuttgartogg ( Rancor pit ) [[Image:Grappa's Tattoo.jpg|20px]] 00:56, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree. -  Angel Blue [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]](Holonet) 01:07, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I prefer the current image as well. It's a nice "profile"-type image, which is exactly what its purpose is! :P Adamwankenobi 01:13, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I love this picture of Boba, makes him look so mysterious. Jaina Solo ( Goddess Stuff ) [[Image:Jaina_sig.jpg|25px]] 01:14, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * are you all kidding, he looks rediculous, he looks like he has no idea of what he is doing at all, it looks stupid. Why would anyone stand like that, give him a better picture that seems like what Boba would do, not the actor of Boba, meaning get a picture of Boba from the movies, it makes more sense
 * Give it up.-- Lord Oblivion Comlink[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 01:17, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yep. Give it up. Look at all the promotional pictures. Who would stand like that in any of them? Get over it. Image policy calls for promotional images as infobox image. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 01:23, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry anon but the main image is not changing. Jaina Solo ( Goddess Stuff ) [[Image:Jaina_sig.jpg|25px]] 01:24, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Alright, seeing as you guys like that stupid picture I have no choice.
 * Present us with a better one and the change will be considered. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 01:39, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I've got to say that I like this picture. The only trouble, for me, is that the photo is unofficial, it's a photo of a (really well done!) fan-made costume of Boba Fett (from here ), and I've heard many times that fan creations were not accepted in this kind of article, so... Kaal 02:04, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with you on the fan pics thing. I've noticed that there are some people on the site who always raise a stink on here for posting fan pics, unless it suits their needs.  I do think there are plenty of Fett images around that would be a better choice for the main image.  I thought I had recognized that image from some other site before.  I just couldn't remember which site I had gotten the image from originally.  I have seen Jeremy Bulloch using this photo for signing autographs before, though.  So, I don't know how "unofficial" that makes it.  It may just be whatever photo stock they provided him with for signatures at the convention.  Kind of like how Daniel Logan sometimes uses his own pics of him in a fan-made Boba Fett outfit for signing autographs sometimes.  Sadriel Fett (Mando'a) 06:18, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * This picture sucks, get a better one.
 * Wait, so that's not an official picture? .  .  .  .  00:30, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I guess you guys finally figured it out. I'm surprised it took this long. yes, it is a guy in a costume and yes it is from TK409. I originally posted it here not to be the main pic but just because it was good. I believe Jack may have made it the main pic but that's like December of 05 or earlier I think. Anyway, I like the picture but I realize it doesn't belong here so while I would always vote to keep it...and keep it as the main pic (because it's an excellent costume and very crisp and clear) I won't put up a fuss if someone wants to take it down. But don't delete it, I use it on my user page. It's too bad really...I'm so used to seeing it there and I think it looks so great for his picture.--DannyBoy7783 22:52, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * If it helps, I tried to contact the guy from that site to get permission to post it. Never heard back.--DannyBoy7783 22:54, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * That picture was not fanon. I've seen it used in an official source. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:21, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, as the uploader has admitted it's fan-made, we'll need a source, Jack. .  .  .  .  00:24, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * You think I'm lying? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:27, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Besides the fact that there is nothing supporting the fact that you are telling the truth, I did not allude to the idea that you were lying. I am merely asking for a source, because without one, we must assume that it is fanon, as the uploader himself has stated, as have several others on this talk page. To be perfectly honest, when I first saw it, something didn't look quite right...I had never, ever seen it before, and it really doesn't look like a publicity still from ESB. Still, if you can provide a viable source... .  .  .  .  00:29, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Then, for the time being, find a better image than that poor-quality portrait you added there instead. And FYI, what would I accomplish by lying? I'm completely 100% against all fan-made images. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:33, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * One thing you have to learn, Jack - Better is Subjective. I personally like the new image a bit better, but you don't. Tough. You find a better image, and put it up for a vote. I'm content. And, once again, not once did I say, nor allude to the idea that you were lying. In the words of Darth Culator, "There is no Cabal". .  .  .  .  00:37, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * And two things you need to learn are this: 1) Portraits are not always better than full-body shots, and 2) Poor-quality images are not worthy of being main images. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:40, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * You are a slow learner. Again, "Better" is subjective, as is "Worthy". Keep trying. .  .  .  .  00:44, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * And you're just a thickhead. That image is a poor quality one. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:45, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * All infobox images should be judged by the community with no standards. Whatever looks better. In this case, the fan-made one was better, unfortunatly, it was fan-made...anyway. Scanned through OfficialPix, found two images. Fullbody shot and head shot . Though the headshot background is a distraction. BUT, I don't think anyone would have a problem if it were recolored to something more neutral. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 00:47, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Number one, definitely. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:48, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I honestly don't care, I just needed to find a quick-fix to the alarming fanon image. I did not, by any stretch of the imagination, think my image would stay there. And Jack, let's try and avoid personal attacks, shall we? .  .  .  .  00:49, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * That wasn't a personal attack. Besides, I don't give personal attacks. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:51, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * So I suppose someone hacked into your account and posted And you're just a thickhead. Granted, it was a response to You are a slow learner, but that wasn't an insult, just an observation. .  .  .  .  00:53, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * As for the images, my vote goes to number 1. .  .  .  .  00:54, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * My "thickhead" comment was an observation, just as you said your "slow learner" one was. In any case, we should both stop it now. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:56, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Jack, you're wrong, I'm sorry. But this Fourt Dots fellow is aggravating me about this too, so don't worry. The new picture does suck. I like the old one. I'm not sure where you saw it used officially Jack, but I got it from TK409 which is a website for a guy who likes to make costumes. I think he is in the 501st Fan Group. He also has a sandtrooper outfit. He's really really good at what he does. If someone above hadn't linked to the site I probably wouldn't have said anything because no one would know otherwise. It is a fan made costume. However, I think that since no one has been able to tell that for almost a year that is a testament to the quality of the costume and the image. Also, Fett isn't a hulking brute. he is kind of sneaky. he's cunning and the picture reflects that so whoever said it wasn't a fitting picture is just flat out wrong. I'm with Jack and think it should stay. I asked the guy and he never said no and it is a good picture.--DannyBoy7783 07:06, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * There's nothing wrong with bending the rules if it makes the page better. Where else will you find a promotional shot of Fett that's as good as that? You won't. Those photographs will be 20+ years old. It also matches the promotional shots of many other major characters. Anyway, we should probably just ask an admin what we should do. I know the rule would say "no" but it's been up for so long without being questioned. We should get an official word in here on this I think.--DannyBoy7783 07:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, also, this isn't "fanon" because it's not trying to be fan-made canon. It's just a replica costume as opposed to the actual filmed costume. It's sort of semantics but it's as accurate as anything could be so it bugs me to hear you guys all call it fanon. It's just unofficial. --DannyBoy7783 07:11, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Why not? And let's just bung up some fanon artwork on the Wilrow Hood page too! No: It's fanon, therefore we can't use it. And it's fanon because it's fan made, and unofficial. Therefore fanon. .  .  .  .  07:13, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Since the photo is clearly a fanmade one, it needs to be replaced with an actual promotional of Boba Fett or a screenshot from the OT. Any candidates? QuentinGeorge 07:16, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It isn't clearly fan made Quentin. It's been up, unquestioned, for almost a year. No one has ever asked before this if we could change the main pic.--DannyBoy7783 07:17, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * What? You just admitted it was fanmade. That's "clear" enough for me. Luckily it has already been replaced. Fanon, even very good fanon, has no place here. QuentinGeorge 07:19, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I honestly don't see the problem with the replacement I uploaded, but I know I'm going to be in a minority there. What about the ones Redemption suggested? The first one? It's pretty iconic. .  .  .  .  07:20, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * IMO, the one currently there is fine. Also, it's a portrait, which we've been moving towards for infoboxes. QuentinGeorge 07:21, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's what I thought. Jack said it was of poor quality, but I can't see it. And I don't see the point in getting an image that's twice the size of the infobox if we're going to have to shrink it anyway. .  .  .  .  07:23, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Wait, Jack thinks that the current main image for Boba is low quality, but thinks that the main image for Muun is pretty good? Okay, it's official; I don't understand the fellow.  For the record, I think the current image is acceptable, though there are more visually interesting and/or dynamic in-movie shots we could use.  jSarek 08:26, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It's a good replacement, but yeah, a more detailed one might look a little better - \\Captain Kwenn// &mdash; Ahoy! 08:31, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * And that one should be the first one Redemption suggested. And jSarek, I never said the Muun picture was of a good quality. I just thought it was more appropriate then the others. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 12:25, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Plus, not only is the current image of a low quality, it's also too dark. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 12:26, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Can we at least put the original image somewhere?--Herbsewell 12:41, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * If I had to admit it was a fan made costume then it isn't obvious Quentin. If it was obvious you would have known right away and not had to ask. Your argument that it is obvious because I admitted what it was is like saying it is obvious someone is a murderer after they admit to killing someone. It's ludicrous. --DannyBoy7783 12:49, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The point Quentin was making was that the image has been identified as fan-made, and therefore should not be in the article any more. --Azizlight 12:56, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Sounds to me like his point is that it is obviously fan made which it is not. But, that's neither here nor there at this point.--DannyBoy7783 13:03, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It is a very nice pic though. It fooled me for a while there too; I have it on my userpage. But yeah, it's fan-made, so sadly it's gotta go. --Azizlight 13:16, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Seeing as someone has claimed it as his own fanart, I'll have to agree with Quentin and Azizlight here. For some reason, I remember seeing it in a source before I came and saw it here. I honestly did not think it was fanart. But, seeing as I can't find it used in a source, I'll back down. However, I would like to see option one of Redemption's suggestions in the infobox. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 15:54, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Is there any way we can put it there noting that it's fanon?--Herbsewell 21:37, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Don't think so. .  .  .  .  21:43, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * And it has been confirmed that it is a fan-made picture?--Herbsewell 22:06, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Read upthread, it has been confirmed several times. jSarek 22:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well that really is a shame then.--Herbsewell 22:10, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * IT'S NOT FANON! Fanon is FAN MADE CANON. That's what the damn word means. It's fan ART at best but really it's a photograph of a fan made COSTUME. You guys are driving me nuts. Just because something is FAN made doesn't mean it is FANON. The word fanon implies the lowest of the low around here (ie SuperShadow) and this is not anything like that. It's an unofficial replica. Regardless of anything else, you all have to admit that the quality of the image is good. Maybe it doens't belong here but it's still an excellent picture. --DannyBoy7783 22:32, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree but rules are rules...--Herbsewell 22:37, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * "Fanon" aint an insult. Otherwise, we would consider many people's user pages, like Jack's, to be the equal of a cesspit. But we don't. It applies to certain "facts" that may have been accepted as a truth by a large number of fans. Isn't that what happened with this image? .  .  .  .  22:40, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * So why can it not be put, but disclosed that is is fanon?--Herbsewell 23:21, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * If you do that, then I'm putting this image on the Wilrow Hood page: .  .  .  .  23:23, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * You'll get no objections from me, Fourdot. :-P --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 23:34, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I think I see your point.--Herbsewell 23:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * (Takes one look at image) I think we have a good idea for a story on Wilrow Hood during the Imperial takeover of Bespin. ;) Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:43, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * What were you trying to convey when you put this image Thefourdotelipsis?--Herbsewell 00:34, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * That although some fan-made images are good, they have no place in articles. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:36, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * True but this one fooled more than 99.99% of all wookieepedians. Also it looks pretty cool.  But that's subjective...
 * I like it, too, but we can't use fanart. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 01:35, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I think the fact that it's fooled us all for this long to be pretty disturbing...we need tighter security on images. .  .  .  .  01:37, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The only problem was that it looked like an actual canon image. If we were to tighten the security on images, many good canon images could end up being deleted if not sourced in time. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 01:38, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * At least they can be sourced. .  .  .  .  01:41, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * But what if they weren't? Besides, if we were to tighten security on images, how do you propose we go about that? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 01:43, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I checked your contributions FourDots...looks like you've been here since what? September? Why don't you try working on editing some articles instead of reinventing the wheel. If there's an issue with image sources it will get worked out. Baby steps my friend, baby steps.--DannyBoy7783 02:48, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * FourDots isn't "reinventing the wheel". He's a great contributor. Don't make this personal, DannyBoy. --Azizlight 03:17, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Considering I've got 1 FA on this Wiki with three more up for candidacy, 1 GA with 5 more up for candidacy, and an FA on Wikipedia, I don't think I've got to feel the need to take baby steps. I've gone about my business in a manner that doesn't make me look like a noob, rather, I've attacked subjects and topics with ferocity. Several users have been taken aback by my methods, and, god forbid, several have been offended, and for that I am truly sorry. But if you don't like my style, take it up with me on my talk page, and I'll shoot you down there, rather than having to do it here, on an article's talk page, in clear and present sight. You've uploaded and placed a "fan made image" and placed it in a canon article, an act which, to me, it just plain dishonest. I'm trying to restore a bit of peace an order by placing an official image in it's stead, as it should be. And, just for fun, I've made 1011 article edits since September. You've made 636. Your total edits: 2169. Mine: 2672. And you've been here since December 2005. So maybe you should have a good hard look at yourself. Prosecution rests. .  .  .  .  03:30, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Did you want a picture with his helmet off?--Herbsewell 11:56, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * DannyBoy and Thefourdot, knock it off. You're both excellent contributors. Herbsewell: We already are going for a full-body image with his helmet on. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 12:07, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well why does Boba need his helmet on but not Jango?--Herbsewell 21:16, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * We know what Jango looks like without his helmet on canonically, we don't know what Boba looks like though. And we can't just assume he looks like Jango. Darth Abeonis Sith Council (Sith Campaign) 21:23, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I know but he didn't have his helmet on in Episode 2. I think it should be a full body shot with his helmet on, I'm just looking for a brief justification for why Jango's picture has to be one with his helmet off.--Herbsewell 21:34, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Aha...the Episode II appearance...that would be...here I go again, "more encyclopedic". Or would it? It doesn't show him in the "prime of his life"...and yet it shows us an unobstructed view of who he is. Tricky. .  .  .  .  22:19, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No, we're not using a picture of him from Episode II. Our best option right now is the full-body image that Redemption provided. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 14:29, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Quote
Were should I put it ? -- Jabbathehuttgartogg ( Rancor pit )  00:54, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * OH, wait, It's there already -- Jabbathehuttgartogg ( Rancor pit ) [[Image:Grappa's Tattoo.jpg|20px]] 00:55, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Do you mean the Bossk to Zukuss one?
 * Yes, but relized it's already up. --  Jabbathehuttgartogg ( Rancor pit ) [[Image:Grappa's Tattoo.jpg|20px]] 10:24, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE DISSCUSIONS?!
Where did all the disscussions GO!?
 * It's archived. Jaina Solo ( Goddess Stuff ) [[Image:Jaina_sig.jpg|25px]] 01:06, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * It isn't a crime it was over 109 KBs. -- Jabbathehuttgartogg ( Rancor pit ) [[Image:Grappa's Tattoo.jpg|20px]] 01:07, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Ohh, ok, sorry I didnt know, can we delete this pointless disscusion now?
 * It's alright. This discussion can't be deleted because it will violate one of the rules. Jaina Solo ( Goddess Stuff ) [[Image:Jaina_sig.jpg|25px]] 01:11, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thats a wierd rule that has no purpose, just like this disscusion, Im one for removing that rule.
 * Usually, only discussions that are just nonsense and/or offensive are deleted.-- Lord Oblivion Comlink[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 01:16, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry but those are the rules. Jaina Solo ( Goddess Stuff ) [[Image:Jaina_sig.jpg|25px]] 01:17, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * If you want to participate in votes, you have to register. -  Angel Blue [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]](Holonet) 01:17, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * This anon really needs to calm down&mdash;and stop using so many capital letters. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:12, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Of course... The anon who is begging to be banned again and again. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:44, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Bobba Fett
When Boba Fett fell into the Scarlac i've read many times and thought was the excepted theory that Boba Fett blew up the Scarlac and was rescued by the bounty Hunter Dengar. Not some thing about Jawas. Just read book one of the 'bounty hunter wars' which i think is titled 'Mandalorian Armour'.
 * Yup, he escaped from there twice - once with the Jawas, and then he went back in, and then a second time, when Dengar rescued him. .  .  .  .  09:29, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
 * He also stole the Death Star plans and the shuttle Tydirium in the process. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 22:50, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Shuttle Tydirium? Is that thing just a thief magnet? .  .  .  .  23:28, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Things to expand
Things to expand on Boba Fett:
 * Star Wars novels
 * The Hutt Gambit
 * Boba Fett: A Practical Man
 * Star Wars comics
 * Star Wars: Empire
 * Star Wars Empire 7: Sacrifice
 * Star Wars Empire 28: Wreckage
 * Underworld: The Yavin Vassilika
 * Boba Fett comics
 * Boba Fett: Agent of Doom
 * Boba Fett: Bounty on Bar-Kooda
 * Boba Fett: When the Fat Lady Swings
 * Boba Fett: Murder Most Foul


 * Copy edit
 * Clear up redlinks

-- Jaina Solo ( Goddess Stuff )  23:05, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
 * How do you work so fast? .  .  .  .  00:15, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I listen to music while I edit. I guess it makes me work faster. Jaina Solo ( Goddess Stuff ) [[Image:Jainasolosig.gif |25px]] 00:16, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * [futurama]Interesting if true![/futurama] .  .  .  .  01:54, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * What's the matter am I going to fast for you or something? There's a lot of information to add to Boba's article, I haven't even started. Jaina Solo ( Goddess Stuff ) [[Image:Jainasolosig.gif |25px]] 03:12, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No, no, I was just joking. No, I find it admirable that you are able to work through all this at such a quick pace. Usually, I have to gear myself up, and I do one big edit on an article, but every few minutes, it seems, you're here crossing off another source. It's remarkable! .  .  .  .  03:15, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Lol, thanks. Jaina Solo ( Goddess Stuff ) [[Image:Jainasolosig.gif |25px]] 03:17, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Picture?
The picture saying fett in his father's armor during the clone wars, is in- correct. The man in the armor is Jango Fett. Here is proof in the book, after Boba burried his dad's deads corpse, he hid the armor in a cave hidden away. He did infact take the helmet so he would look like an adult while driving Slave1. I suggest we correct this error at once, I will wait until somone backs me up on this.BobafettH23 02:42, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. .  .  .  .  02:49, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your help.BobafettH23 02:58, 4 November 2006 (UTC) I didn't know that, thanks.BobafettH23 00:46, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't have the books, but I have read a few of them - and I deducted that Fett needed to get modified armour anyway to fit his frame...so it could not have been Jango's. .  .  .  .  03:08, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * One of the Boba Fett books says a cook working for Jabba modified the armor for Fett. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:05, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure it's Hunted, if you'd like to read about it. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 03:02, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, I remember reading that as well, that the cook, whose daughter Boba had saved, had Jango's armor re-fitted for Boba. Obviously, the metal parts could not be modified on the armor.  The actual modifications would have been to the vest and outfit and such, to make sure it's more form fitting.  I never understood how this could be Jango's armor as well, since it does say in the first book that he hid Jango's armor.  I think it might have just been an oversight by the author, since the first two books were written by Terry Bison and the rest were written by Elizabeth Hand.  So, actually, in the original pic we had on here, it actually was supposed to be Boba Fett wearing Jango Fett's armor, since it has him re-painting the armor in either the book "A New Threat" or "Pursuit" (I can't remember which one).  That's why they never show him in his "normal" color armor on the covers until the last book.  So, I'm all for changing the picture back to the other armor.  Sadriel Fett (Mando'a) 07:12, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I think the one currently being used is fine. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 14:36, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Is there a way someone can edit out the background characters in the pic? You can tell it's from the book cover.  It just looks tacky with Anakin and Asaaj Ventress in there.  Sadriel Fett (Mando'a) 07:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I suppose I could do it, but I still need to get some final programs re-installed on my computer, so it might take some time. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:09, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

spolier warning
This article needs a spoiler warning as it has a lot to do with the second corriellen crisis.
 * Please sign your comments with four tildes. And yes, it does need a spoiler warning - I'll add one right now. .  .  .  .  03:16, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I believe the unofficial policy is that spoiler warnings are only for the first month after release, but since they're still up on several Bloodlines-related articles, something may have changed without my knowing. - Lord Hydronium 03:33, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I think that official policy should be changed, due to the staggered release dates of many products. Bloodlines only came out recently here in Australia. .  .  .  .  03:38, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Behind the scenes
Has anyone noticed that Boba looks different in the holiday special? Well, I think that may be part of an early sketch of him, but George Lucas and the others didn't like that, so they changed it and forgot about the cartoon. Does anyone else think that? Darth Shady 15:53, 5 November 2006 (UTC) "Armor is often handed down between generations, especially the beskar type. It's intricately customized to suit the wearer’s needs and tastes and is worn by both genders. Armor color and markings can indicate many things, from clan or family to more ephemeral concepts such as state of mind or a particular mission.  Sand-gold represents a quest for vengeance; black, for justice.  Mando’ade will often repaint their armor with new colors if they’re on a particular task or have changed clans.  With the exception of the Mandalore, markings never correspond to fixed rank—a concept they find hard to accept.  Sometimes, though colors on armor simply express personal preferences.  Blue and green are especially popular.  While other soldiers opt for camouflage.  Mandalorians seem not to care about being conspicuous: “It’s one thing to see us coming, and another to do something about it” is a common Mando saying. Sigils—symbols painted on the helmet or chest-plate—often identify the wearer’s allegiance, lineage, or loved ones. But they can also be marks of honor, such as the jai’galaar’la sur’haii’se (shriek-hawk eyes). Jaig, as they’re better known, are bestowed as awards for bravery by some clan leaders."
 * What? Do you mean his armor? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 15:53, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, sorry. I ment that. Darth Shady 22:19, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, it was his first appearance. Back then, they had nothing but concept art for him. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:52, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok then. Should I or someone else put that down or is it too iffy? Darth Shady 20:55, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, even after Empire and Jedi came out, they still used that style for him, for the Droids series. I think that's just how they wanted to portray him in that "animated" style, you know?  Sadriel Fett (Mando'a) 22:16, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah. Everyone looks different when they're animated. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:33, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * And also I was just watching A New Hope and realised after Han finished negotiating with Jabba, Boba comes out and looks right at the camera! So, that backs up your theory.Darth Shady 01:35, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * That backs up nothing. Fett was added to ANH in 1997. .  .  .  .  01:37, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * In Star Wars: Clone Wars, Grievous looks somewhat different and has a different voice as well. The key word here is portrayal. Adamwankenobi 01:42, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thing is though, we can't look at something as intangible as "portrayal". We have to look at things in black and white. .  .  .  .  01:46, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Boba has at least two sets of Mandalorian armor (and perhaps even more), as stated in NEGTC. One of these is the one seen in the movies, the other is the cartoon one. QuentinGeorge 02:16, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * There, you see? Grievous used to have a grey cape, but it grew less fashionable, so in 19 BBY he went for the black that Vader would soon make popular. But Grievous set the trends you know. And as for his voice...attribute that to the chest-crush thing. At least until the new Clone Wars series comes out. .  .  .  .  02:19, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The problem is that Grievous was wearing that cape at the end of "Chapter 25", which takes place only moments before Revenge of the Sith. Perhaps he quickly changed capes because he was expecting company? http://media.ign.com/boardfaces/18.gif Adamwankenobi 02:29, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * We have to take it as that, yes. He sets the trends, remember? .  .  .  .  02:44, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. Adamwankenobi 02:46, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * And though it doesn't come through a lot in the cartoon, don't you think his cape would be extremely dirty and ragged after all that fighting? .  .  .  .  02:53, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, but it doesn't. Adamwankenobi 02:56, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, Boba has more than one set of armor. If you look closely, you'll see he wears two different sets in the movies.  All green gauntlets and jetpack in the Empire, with a brown cape that has a stripe through the middle.  In Jedi he has red gauntlets, a multi-colored jetpack, and green cape.  This was also the color they used in the cameo in "A New Hope."  Sadriel Fett (Mando'a) 07:23, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, maybe he was in the mood for a repaint. .  .  .  .  08:12, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Perhaps even his armor has a purpose in Mandalorian culture. Different colors could be a symbol of status, perhaps. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 12:10, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Check out the entry dated 24 September. It's quoted from the Star Wars Insider Article about the different colors of Mandalorian armor.  Sadriel Fett (Mando'a) 02:14, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
 * This should make it easier:

- Sadriel Fett on Bobafett.com Darth Abeonis Sith Council (Sith Campaign) 09:19, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
 * So perhaps he repainted his armor for the mission. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 12:08, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

What's the deal!?
What's the deal with the portrait full-face close-ups? they just don't look good with infoboxes. it's not like there's some sort of fine detail that we need to spot you cant see an eye color or anything. full-body and head-torso Images look much better with the infoboxes. especaily this one Valin &quot;Tnu&quot; &quot;Shido&quot; Suul 23:18, 17 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree. Put a better one.--Herbsewell 23:29, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Finealy someone understands! Valin &quot;Tnu&quot; &quot;Shido&quot; Suul 23:31, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * We can't use the old one because it's not official. This one is the best we've found - \\Captain Kwenn// &mdash; Ahoy! 23:32, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Not Official? what do you mean!? how long has this Image been up there and it's j ust now Non-Canon? What's the deal? Valin &quot;Tnu&quot; &quot;Shido&quot; Suul 23:42, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Sigh. There's a topic on it above. Basically, it's a fan costume - \\Captain Kwenn// &mdash; Ahoy! 23:43, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * As in some guy made a really good costume, put it on, took a picture of himself in it, someone uploaded it, and that fooled more than 99.99% of Wookieepedians.--Herbsewell 23:46, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Ironic how the reason we can't find a better picture of him is because he's so popular. There's so many fan made pictures it's hard to find one that's good and canon. --Herbsewell 23:49, 17 November 2006 (UTC)


 * We've got one. It's in the infobox :| - \\Captain Kwenn// &mdash; Ahoy! 23:50, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah I said a better picture as in one that has the rest of his body.--Herbsewell 23:54, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah this Image is Garbege. it dosn't fit well with the box. it j ust dosn't work well at all Valin &quot;Tnu&quot; &quot;Shido&quot; Suul 00:03, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Tough. Portraits are more encyclopedic. .  .  .  .  00:08, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes but it would be nice to get one that captures his likeness better.--Herbsewell 00:12, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * True. I only uploaded that one because I needed a quick replacement for the shamefully inserted fanon image. Seriously, I didn't intend for it to be permanent. .  .  .  .  00:12, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Have you found any better candidates?--Herbsewell 00:14, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * mean when you say "portraits" Fourdot? trash Images that focus too close to the face? you don't seem to have a problme with the other articals like Han and Leia and Anakin Skywalker Valin &quot;Tnu&quot; &quot;Shido&quot; Suul 00:18, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Redemption did, but on OfficialPix. I'm not much of an image person, myself, but I do stronly argue for portraits. .  .  .  .  00:19, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * "Tnu": Oh, I do. One step at a time, you know. Portraits are (here I go again) "more encyclopedic". They are more commonly used in places like Wikipedia, when they are profiling someone. .  .  .  .  00:34, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Do you guys even know what a portrait is? It is the likeness of a person captured in a picture, a photograph, or whatever.  All those articles that you articles that you mentioned have portraits for they capture the essence of the person they are portraying.--Herbsewell 01:49, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Head-shot, then. .  .  .  .  02:22, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah well I guess it would come down to a vote wouldn't it?--Herbsewell 02:50, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah well, we were talking about it in the above topic. .  .  .  .  03:00, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well to vote, we need more than one picture.--Herbsewell 03:10, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * And in that case, someone needs to find a picture. .  .  .  .  03:28, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Use the OfficialPix ones. I'll handle who ever wins. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 03:51, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I vote for a full body image like we had before. Also, Herbsewell, I uploaded the previous image if you were curious. It's not my costume though...sadly :) --DannyBoy7783 05:51, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Why?--Herbsewell 13:17, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It's impossible to find an image. Does wookieepedia allow using an image from a comic panel?


 * For a main image? Bad idea. Use the OfficialPix full-body image. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 14:33, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Which one? I don't think I've seen it.--Herbsewell 16:50, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Image Proposals
http://www.starwarsdotcom.com/star_wars/gallery/characters/pics/boba/esb_boba34.jpg

http://www.starwarsdotcom.com/star_wars/gallery/characters/pics/boba/misc_boba6.jpg

Valin &quot;Tnu&quot; &quot;Shido&quot; Suul 18:46, 18 November 2006 (UTC)


 * You're looking for a new main image? Well, I'd like to see something like this in the infobox... Borsk Fey&#39;lya 19:22, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Those are all great, (tho they look familiar). Are you sure they are official pictures?--Herbsewell 19:36, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm certain. especaily so on the first one. it's an ESB screenshot Valin &quot;Tnu&quot; &quot;Shido&quot; Suul 20:10, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I vote for the first image, from the Empire (the one with the cape draped over his left arm and cradling his rifle). This has always been one of my favorite images of Fett, because it portrays him in a very noble pose, and has him in the familiar image of him cradling his rifle comfortably, but still ready to draw it in a moments notice (much the way we soldiers do it in the real world).  The last one with his rifle drawn wouldn't be too bad either.  The middle picture, however, is of his prototype armor, never used in the movies (yellow wrist gauntlet on left hand, and rust brown gauntlet on his right hand).  I think the picture we use should be one that has an armor color pattern that was actually used in the movies.    Sadriel Fett (Mando'a) 22:20, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I vote for the full body shot to the right. I like it because it is clear and big enough and most like the image we had before. If we can't use that for some reason then I suggest the top image of his torso/head. --DannyBoy7783 22:39, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The reason we would not use a picture is because it is fan made. Where was this picture from?--Herbsewell 22:43, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I propose this as the main image. Failing that, number 3, but with better quality, as it's official enough to have been used on a book cover. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 22:52, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Wowwwww...You're not funny.--Herbsewell 22:57, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Image:BobaFettMain is the best. Definitely that one. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:31, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually Herbs, I laughed.--DannyBoy7783 23:38, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Would anyone object if I were to put in the BobaFettMain image into the infobox now? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:41, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Image 3(BobaFettMain) is fine with me. I would choose image 1, but the background detracts from the picture, the half a head on the right is kinda odd, and it seems to have a low quality of saturation: i.e., it's too 'grayed'. I'd modify it if I could, but I can't figure out how to upload pictures to mess with them on Photoshop. -Solus 23:43, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, some modifications make them fanart. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:45, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. -Solus 23:47, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Trimming would be fine, but making an image brighter or darker wouldn't be good. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:49, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Since we're using the full body shot, we should do something about the picture of young Fett in his armor, so we don't have the same picture on here twice. I think we should change it back to him in his armor, when it was still in Jango's color scheme.  Also, I think the main picture should be a little bit bigger.  It looks really good, but not quite right.  Sadriel Fett (Mando'a) 02:49, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Despite the fact that it's not a portrait...I really like the current image. .  .  .  .  03:02, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I just need to say one thing, Thefourdot: I told you full-body images can be better than portraits. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 03:08, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * And it is a portrait.--Herbsewell 03:09, 19 November 2006 (UTC)