Wookieepedia:Inquisitorius/Log/2013 July 28

[16:23] * Toprawa changes topic to 'Wookieepedia:Inquisitorius | http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Meeting_58' ... [19:48] <@Toprawa> I suppose I'm running it, unless either of you wants to volunteer. [19:48] <@SirCavalier> Feel free [19:48] <@SirCavalier> I may fall asleep :P [19:52] <@Culator|Away> Have fun with it. I'm too tired to move. [19:56] <@Toprawa> Ok, one minute [19:56] <@Toprawa> Brace yourselves [19:56] <@Toprawa> !inqsignal [19:56] <@Toprawa> oh [19:56] * Nuku-Nuku (~Nuku-Nuku@wookieepedia/bot/Nuku-Nuku) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [19:56] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Nuku-Nuku [19:56] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Nuku-Nuku [19:56] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Nuku-Nuku [19:56] <@Toprawa> !inqsignal [19:56] <@Nuku-Nuku> Cade_Calrayn! Cal_Jedi! CavalierOne! CC7567! Darth_Culator! GreenTentacle! Grunny! IFYLOFD! JangFett! Jujiggum! Tommy9281! Toprawa and/or Ralltiir! Xd1358! [19:57] <@Culator|Away> Oops. Stupid Freenode. [19:57] <@Toprawa> Welcome, Cavalier and Culator, to Inqmoot 58. [19:57] <@Toprawa> We'll utilize absentee notes where applicable. [19:57] <@Toprawa> First up, articles from Meeting 57. [19:58] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Koth_Melan [19:58] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=4439220 [19:58] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Koth_Melan [19:59] <@SirCavalier> I know I said kill, but what's the level of update needed? [19:59] <@Culator|Away> We never did get the info from that damn book. [19:59] <@Culator|Away> I have no freaking idea what's in it. [19:59] <@Toprawa> IIRC, BTS info about producing the character visually for the SOTE card set [19:59] <@Toprawa> They created masks and had certain named people model the character, etc. [20:00] <@Culator|Away> If someone would scan the damn thing, I'd update it, but I'm not going to hunt the thing down on eBay for one article. [20:00] <@Toprawa> I vote kill, since it no one seems imminently prepared to do so [20:00] <@Culator|Away> Frankly, I don't think it's fair to kill it on the basis of an "IIRC". [20:00] <@Toprawa> Well, that's what it is [20:01] <@Toprawa> It's BTS info about creating and modeling the character [20:01] <@SirCavalier> Who has access to this book? [20:01] <@Toprawa> I say "IIRC" because I can't remember exact details [20:01] <@Toprawa> I added the Update tag myself [20:01] <@Toprawa> I do, but I'm not going to the trouble of scanning it, which is quite beyond me atm [20:01] <@Culator|Away> I say keep it until someone who actually owns the book updates it or untags it, because holding articles hostage to one obscure source is undemocratic and evil. [20:02] <@Toprawa> I'd have more sympathy if someone were actually taking care of this article [20:02] <@Toprawa> The original writer is long gone [20:02] <@Toprawa> No one else has shown an interest [20:03] <@SirCavalier> Well, until the update tag was added, no one probably realised it needed to be taken care of [20:04] <@Culator|Away> We haven't specifically identified anything else wrong with it. [20:04] <@Toprawa> Either way, the update tag has been there since March. [20:04] <@Toprawa> Anyone who might have been interested has had four months to do something [20:04] <@Toprawa> To at least inquire about the source [20:04] <@Toprawa> No one has stepped forward [20:04] <@Toprawa> All four absentees vote to kill this thing, as do I. [20:05] <@Toprawa> That's 5 against your 2, if you both vote to keep. [20:05] * Cade|Mobile (~Cade_Calr@wookieepedia/Cade-Calrayn) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [20:05] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Cade|Mobile [20:05] * Nuku-Nuku sets mode: +o Cade|Mobile [20:05] <@Toprawa> If you prefer to vote one way or the other, Cav, please do so, so we can keep moving. [20:05] <@Cade|Mobile> Allo [20:06] <@Culator|Away> I just think it sets a bad precedent to let people go around tagging articles saying they need to be updated from the Necronomicon or something, and that's that. [20:06] <@SirCavalier> Well, since a keep vote won't save it in any case, I'll switch to keep [20:07] <@SirCavalier> But, if I were to inquire about obtaining the info from you, Tope, is there any way I could get it? [20:07] <@Toprawa> I can't scan pages. [20:07] <@Toprawa> So I would have to take the time to go through and find the information and transcribe it [20:08] <@Toprawa> I'm not really interested in doing so unless someone is actually going to fucking doing it. [20:08] <@Toprawa> Forgive my French, but we've been over this once already [20:08] <@Toprawa> We agreed to do this exact thing and no one came forward [20:08] <@Toprawa> This is why my tolerance level is zero [20:08] <@Cade|Mobile> Actually, that was my fault [20:09] <@Cade|Mobile> Koth Melan, right? I saw that the HungryEwok had a copy, so I said something, but it turned out to be only the pictures. [20:09] <@SirCavalier> Ah. So that's what happened. [20:10] <@SirCavalier> Well, to keep this moving, let's kill it since even two keep votes will not save it [20:10] <@Culator|Away> Why the hell did they do that? [20:10] <@Toprawa> If you guarantee you're going to update it, Cav, I'll give you the info [20:10] <@Toprawa> Otherwise, I'm voting kill [20:10] <@SirCavalier> If I get the info, I'll get it done [20:10] <@Toprawa> Ok, I'll give it to you [20:10] <@SirCavalier> But I can do that and take it to restore status [20:11] <@Toprawa> We should extend then, again [20:11] <@SirCavalier> If you want to kill now [20:11] <@SirCavalier> Extend then [20:11] <@Cade|Mobile> Extend, if Cav's going to fix it. [20:11] <@SirCavalier> And I'll take responsibility [20:11] <@Toprawa> Works for me [20:11] <@Toprawa> Culator approves extending? [20:11] <@Culator|Away> Absolutely. [20:11] <@Toprawa> Koth Melan extended [20:11] <@Cade|Mobile> Sorry, I'm only here briefly. Thought I had more time. [20:12] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Morag [20:12] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=4512705 [20:12] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Morag [20:12] <@Toprawa>    See my note on the review page; I can update her, just not for a few weeks. :/ ~SavageBOB sig 14:26, July 26, 2013 (UTC) [20:12] <@SirCavalier> Extend. Bob is willing, and should have it done by the time next meeting comes around if his schedule is correct [20:13] <@Toprawa> All the relevant absentees vote extend [20:13] <@Toprawa> I vote extend as well [20:13] <@Culator|Away> I think Bob is a pretty cool guy. Eh writes articals and doesn't afraid of anything. [20:13] * @Culator|Away says extend. [20:13] <@Toprawa> Morag extended [20:13] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cad_Bane [20:13] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=4512708 [20:13] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Cad_Bane_(third_review) [20:14] <@Toprawa> CC says he fixed it. [20:14] <@SirCavalier> Keep. CC is doing great [20:14] <@Toprawa> All absentees vote keep [20:14] <@Toprawa> Keep [20:14] <@Culator|Away> George Cloney strikes again. Keep. [20:14] <@Toprawa> Unless you say something, Cade, I'm going with your absentee votes by default [20:15] * @Culator|Away has invented a nickname because CC is boring now. [20:15] <@Toprawa> Cad Bane kept [20:15] <@Toprawa> Moving on to new articles. [20:15] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Executor [20:15] <@Toprawa> I would like the floor to explain this one. [20:15] <@Toprawa> This was my original meeting page comment: [20:15] <@Toprawa> I will try, but if I don't finish Executor, I would like to request an extension. I only learned yesterday that the SSD that has been appearing in this series since January is indeed the Executor, so this leaves me with a week to update all of this. That, plus the fact that its inclusion in this story is a terrible inconsistency, makes this update fairly tricky. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk)... [20:15] <@Toprawa> ...02:22, July 21, 2013 (UTC) [20:15] <@Culator|Away> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR3Vdo5etCQ [20:16] <@Toprawa> What I didn't say there, and which I planned to explain at this meeting, is that how I update this depends almost entirely on what Leland Chee potentially says in regards to this continuity disaster. [20:16] <@Toprawa> The Jedipedia people are trying to get him to talk about it, so I'm waiting on them, for one [20:16] <@Toprawa> If they don't get anything, I'm going to try to catch him on Facebook. [20:16] <@Toprawa> So trying to update this at all before I do or don't get a word from Chee is imprudent, in my estimation [20:17] <@Toprawa> Especially considering I only learned about this last week, I need more time to explore this. [20:17] <@Toprawa> So I consider it a dick move that GT, Cade, and Grunny voted to probe this in their absentee notes, especially after I requested an extension. [20:17] <@Toprawa> I just want to put that out there. [20:18] <@SirCavalier> Per the 1 month rule, I say spare since only the latest issue identifies it as the Ex [20:18] <@Toprawa> Yes, as Cav said, regardless, the info is less than a month old anyway [20:18] <@Culator|Away> That's a good out. [20:18] <@Toprawa> So we can't probe it either way. [20:18] <@Toprawa> So, unless there are any other comments from you guys, moving on. [20:18] <@Culator|Away> Yay! [20:19] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Beru_Whitesun_Lars [20:19] <@Toprawa> Update needed. [20:19] <@SirCavalier> Obligatory probe Beru comment [20:19] <@Culator|Away> ^ [20:19] <@Culator|Away> Young Beru, specifically. [20:19] <@Toprawa> All absentees vote probe. [20:19] <@SirCavalier> ^ [20:19] <@Culator|Away> Anyway, now the meeting is complete. [20:19] <@Toprawa> As do I. [20:19] <@Toprawa> Beru probed. [20:19] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Troig [20:20] <@Toprawa> Update was needed [20:20] <@Toprawa> Bob said he got it done [20:20] <@Culator|Away> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Troig&diff=4566934&oldid=4537835 [20:20] <@Culator|Away> Been did. [20:20] <@Toprawa> No probe [20:20] <@SirCavalier> Spare [20:20] <@Culator|Away> Minor new-RPG update. SPare. [20:20] <@Toprawa> Troig spared [20:21] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Calo_Nord [20:21] <@Toprawa> Update needed [20:21] <@Toprawa> Cade claims he got it done [20:21] <@Culator|Away> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Calo_Nord&diff=4564261&oldid=4537288 [20:21] <@Culator|Away> Also minor. [20:21] <@Culator|Away> However, [20:21] <@Culator|Away> Not added to body. Possibly might need mention there. [20:22] <@Culator|Away> In "legacy". [20:22] <@Toprawa> I agree [20:22] * @Cade|Mobile (~Cade_Calr@wookieepedia/Cade-Calrayn) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [20:22] <@Culator|Away> Still minor enough that it will take 5 minutes. Probe-worthy? [20:22] <@Toprawa> We'll inform Cade he needs to look into it [20:22] <@Toprawa> Spare [20:22] <@Culator|Away> K. [20:22] <@SirCavalier> Agreed [20:22] <@SirCavalier> Spare [20:23] <@Toprawa> Calo Nord spared [20:23] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chase_Piru [20:23] <@Toprawa> Excess redlinks [20:23] <@Toprawa> Cade says he got them [20:24] <@Toprawa> Which he did [20:24] <@Toprawa> Spare [20:24] <@Culator|Away> Down to 2. It's good. Spare. [20:24] <@SirCavalier> Spare [20:24] <@Toprawa> Chase Piru spared [20:24] <@Culator|Away> Though she's more probe-worthy with hair now. [20:24] <@Toprawa> We'll do these two as one: [20:24] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Josef_Grunger [20:24] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Danetta_Pitta [20:24] <@Toprawa> Basically, we needed to resolve the unconfirmed 6 ABY date [20:24] <@Toprawa>    Both fixed. It's been a while since I've read Who's Who, but I don't recall seeing any dates (which makes me wonder where the 6 ABY date came from in the first place). If Warfare uses 5 ABY, that's certainly good enough for me. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 02:16, July 27, 2013 (UTC) [20:25] <@Toprawa> Spare [20:25] <@SirCavalier> Spare [20:25] <@Culator|Away> There were no dates in Who's Who. Spare. [20:26] * @Culator|Away just checked just now. :P [20:26] <@Toprawa> Grunger and Pitta spared [20:26] <@Toprawa> Nothing else [20:26] <@Toprawa> Discussion [20:26] <@Toprawa> We will be voting on approving User:CC7567/The Official Guide to Article Reviewing, which is the current draft of the FA reviewing tutorial that we decided to begin a few meetings ago. Take a look before the meeting to see if there's anything you want to add, and if so, add it. (This is by no means the final draft; we can continue to edit it even after it's created as a tutorial page.) I... [20:26] <@Toprawa> ...won't be at the meeting, so Toprawa will be presenting this to you. CC7567 (talk) 02:13, July 21, 2013 (UTC) [20:26] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/User:CC7567/The_Official_Guide_to_Article_Reviewing [20:27] <@Toprawa> I have nothing else to say [20:27] <@Toprawa> We can amend it even after we approve it [20:27] <@Toprawa> So support [20:27] <@Culator|Away> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT04RqXrBKY [20:27] <@SirCavalier> Support [20:28] <@Toprawa> Official Guide ratified. [20:28] <@Toprawa> Any other discussion items? [20:28] <@Toprawa> No? [20:28] <@Toprawa> Great. [20:28] <@SirCavalier> \o/ [20:28] <@Toprawa> Let's see who's on duty... [20:29] <@Toprawa> CC7567 schedules Meeting 59 [20:29] <@Toprawa> Culator on paperwork [20:29] <@Culator|Away> !DONOTWANT [20:29] <@Nuku-Nuku> http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/ [20:29] <@Toprawa> Meeting 58 is concluded.