Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations/Unidentified Swokes Swokes 1 (Yeb Yeb Adem'thorn)


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Unidentified Swokes Swokes 1 (Yeb Yeb Adem'thorn)

 * Nominated by:  Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  00:14, December 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: A Swokes Swokes

(2 ECs/2 Users/4 Total)
Support
 * 1) It looks perfect now. Corellian PremierRobotech.jpg along the watchtower 04:13, December 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) Vote now! Vote now! ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 21:48, December 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) I actually kinda liked TPM's Senate scenes. Menkooroo 16:17, December 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4)  Gethralkin  Hyperwave 05:38, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Is it possible to move the last sentence further up in the Bio? As it stands, the article talks about the Vote, then goes back to talking about the aide. Corellian PremierRobotech.jpg along the watchtower 01:36, December 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) *I kind of combined it with the first sentence.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  04:09, December 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) Bob
 * 4) * Does any source explicitly call this dude an aide? I mean, Orn Free Taa was accompanied in his pod by slave girls and whatnot, not only aides. ~ Savage BOB sig.png 15:47, December 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * 5) **Moved and fixed.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  21:32, December 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * 6) Hi!
 * 7) * Sorry if this is nitpicky, but "ended Valorum's career" might not be the best wording if you're going to keep the sourcing to The Phantom Menace. Mentioning that he lost the election is probably more accurate, as the film doesn't indicate that his political career is over.
 * 8) **Fixed.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  13:41, December 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 9) * Is the detail about Amidala protesting the Invasion of Naboo necessary? For the purposes of this individual, simply mentioning that Amidala called a vote of no confidence might be enough. It's your call, but that might be some good detail to cut if you want to keep it below 200 words and still address my next objection...
 * 10) **I thought that this might be too much context, removed.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  13:41, December 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 11) * Mention something about his vigorous arm-raising! Surely we can infer that he agreed with Amidala or something? :D Menkooroo 08:46, December 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 12) **I mentioned the arm raising, but I felt that saying that he agreed with Amidala might be a bit speculative. (He may have just been raising his arms since Adem'thorn was.)-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  13:41, December 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 13) ***Good stuff. I trimmed a little bit of repetition at the end; feel free to further tweak it and stuff. Menkooroo 16:17, December 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 14) Update tag. I see it's being handled below, but just to keep this from passing. :3 1358  (Talk)  15:55, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Comments
 * It appears that this guy, or his partner, is pictured in the CSWE. I'm not a hundred percent sure, though, so that's why I'm wondering if maybe you could tell if there was a silver protocol droid in the pod with them? The picture in the CSWE just shows the back of a Swokes Swokes that looks like one of these aides with a silver protocol droid standing next to him.-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 14:38, December 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * What volume/page is this picture on, I only know about the Swokes Swokes entry that has a picture of one of them that seems to be the aide sitting to Adem'thorn's left (The second aide.)-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  15:44, December 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Volume III, page 47. Under the protocol droid entry. It looks like one of these aides, but I can't tell for certain and was hoping someone else might be able to tell for sure.-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 21:30, December 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think it is one of them, but I am not sure which one it is. I am also not sure if it is certain who the other one I mentioned before is. What do you think I should do here? I have two pictures of these guys that I have no clue which of the two they correspond to. And then there is this protocol droid that I haven't seen except for that one picture. I would appreciate any advice that anyone would have to offer on this subject. It sure looks like this one is going to the GAN page.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  22:22, December 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, it appears that the picture was taken from the movie. You don't see the protocol droid by them in the movie or any other pictures? If there is no protocol droid in the movie by this guy or from any other source, I think that we cannot assume that this is him. That seems like the logical thing to me. Any other thoughts?-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 02:17, December 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * It might be a good idea to check the movie for the droid, the version of the movie that I have access to is the fullscreen version, so I am not entirely sure if the droid appeared in the movie. I meant that I had not seen the droid in any of the sources that I found that had pictures of the guys. The best picture I have found is this one, which doesn't quite show the entrie pod.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  02:53, December 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * I can check the Blu-ray version, but what part are they in? And are they only in one part? There's also a chance that that picture in CSWE was a picture from a deleted scene that hasn't been released yet.-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 02:56, December 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * I know that they appear soon after the vote is called for, but they might appear at other times as well. The pictures in the CSWE might be promotional photographs, from a deleted scene, or from a source that I don't know that the guys appeared in.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  03:02, December 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll try and take a look at that as soon as I can if no one else gets to it first.-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 03:21, December 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Alrighty. I looked at the Blu-ray version, and I couldn't see any protocol droid either. So, my suggestion is to continue like this is indeed two separate Swokes Swokes until we know for certain that it is the same guy.-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 05:45, December 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, do you think I should maybe put in a BTS note saying that a Swokes Swokes resembling this guy was pictured in the Complete Encyclopedia? Also, what do you think I should do about the Swokes Swokes pictured for the Swokes Swokes entry? The guy appears to be one of the two Swokes Swokes in the movie as well. I'm not sure if I can say which one, or if I can even say it is either one. Any help would be appreciated.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  14:21, December 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Here are the two images: File:Clapclapclap.jpg and File:Swokesanddroids.jpg. Regarding the one with the droid: I think that putting it in the Sources section with something like afterward might be a good course of action, with an explanation in the BTS. You could do the same with the clapping image, but, as the clapping image is a guy sitting on the other side of the pod, you might be able to just say that it's aide #2. See what you think. Menkooroo 18:48, December 19, 2011 (UTC)