User talk:Toprawa and Ralltiir

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Wampas in TCW Comic
Hey Toprawa. There are some wampas that make an appearance in Frozen Out!, the comic from Star Wars: The Clone Wars Comic UK 6.34. The comic should be on Kaskus, but let me know if you have trouble accessing it. Hope that helps.  CC7567  (talk) 03:41, June 7, 2012 (UTC)

Executor-like ships in Emperor's fleet.
Look, I know this was discussed three years ago, but I really need to bring this up:

You had a Star Destroyer article, Star Destroyer (Emperor's Fleet), deleted around 2009. Your reasoning was that it was just a design variation of the Imperial-class Star Destroyer.

Before I get started, I'd like to agree in regards to not creating articles on ships based on minor variances of other ships since they are redundant.

That being said, I disagree with your argument about it being deleted, because the ship in question was not simply a "minor" variant of the Imperial-class Star Destroyers. "minor variants" of ships would be like the Eclipse I and Eclipse II within the Eclipse-class Star Dreadnought or heck, the Conqueror with any Star Destroyer in the Imperial-class (ie, while definitely possessing differences, the overall design is still the same as the class in question). The Star Destroyers seen among the Imperial Fleet in the comic version of Star Wars: The Force Unleashed did not bare any resemblance to the Imperial-class Star Destroyers at all, so it is not simply a "minor variant" as you put it. For one thing, the hull shape is completely different from the Imperial-class Star Destroyer. It actually looked closer to the Executor-class Star Dreadnought or even the Assertor-class Star Dreadnought, and I'm not even talking about the exposed parts as much as the blatant overall shape of the hull. I'd forgive the exposed parts as long as they at least had the hull in the right shape.

Regarding the fact that the game had it be Imperial-class Star Destroyers, the game also had various levels that were exclusive to each version of the game, and plus, the Death Star portion of the story was also significantly different for each version, yet you guys were capable of integrating these things seamlessly into the Battle on Death Star I, and then acknowledging the differences in the behind the scenes section. I don't see how we can't do something similar with the article.

I also read that TC thread that you started in the Trash Compactor as well, and noticed your referece to Darth Vader's armor in there. I just recently saw some of the Vader pics from the comic, and I can't say it looks that much different from the films or any of his other appearances. Either way, the armor is a bad example because the armor can't be taken off without risk of killing him, and besides which, the armor still bears some overall resemblance to the other incarnations of Darth Vader, whereas the Star Destroyers in that pic bore absolutely no resemblance whatsoever to an Imperial-class Star Destroyer.

I would have done it on the TC thread, but I suspect that I can't do so thanks to it being a closed issue, so I'm bringing it to your attention on your talk page. I'm not the original author of the first attempt BTW (although I did attempt the articles of three unidentified ones), but I do think that the article should be made, as they don't resemble an Imperial-class Star Destroyer at all. I also brought up the topic on the Emperor's fleet article. Weedle McHairybug 01:44, June 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Uh, tl;dr. What are you even talking about? Links would go a long way here. Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:46, June 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sigh... hold on:
 * Also, this one:
 * http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Trash_compactor/Star_Destroyer_(Emperor%27s_fleet)
 * And probably a direct link: Emperor's fleet.
 * Hope that's satisfactory.
 * Weedle McHairybug 01:56, June 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I'll wait if I must, but I do really need a response. I gave you the links you needed, I just need a response. Weedle McHairybug 03:46, June 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * For the record, in case I wasn't clear, I'm not talking about the command bridge at the center of the picture. I'm talking about the ships with the Executor-style wedge hull, as those definitely do not look like Imperial-class Star Destroyers. Weedle McHairybug 22:59, June 20, 2012 (UTC)

The maniac
Done and done. It didn't takes as much work as I expected; most of the paragraphs in the Presidency article were actually copied word-for-word from Daala's article. Menkooroo (talk) 19:37, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

Need an AC for a third opinion
Can you take a look at Good article nominations/Search for Captain Kael? CP and I can't agree, and a third opinion either way could help. Thanks. &mdash;MJ&mdash; Training Room Saturday, June 23, 2012, 16:42 UTC
 * Sure, will do so momentarily. Toprawa and Ralltiir 16:43, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

AC Meeting 48
Hey Tope. Quick reminder that AC Meeting 48 is tomorrow at 4 PM EDT. Cheers.&mdash; Cal Jedi (Personal Comm Channel) 20:55, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

CT amendment
This is to inform you that a small amendment has been made to Forum:CT:Subcategorization and MW 1.19. The reasons for the amendment are laid out there. Please review it and make sure that you are still in support. Thanks. &mdash;MJ&mdash; Council Chambers Friday, July 13, 2012, 14:27 UTC

Addition to the Ahsoka Tano page
Hi,

I'd just like to bring to your attention a little piece of trivia that might be nice for other people to know and was curious as to if you could add it to the Ahsoka page as the site isn't allowing me to do so.

The trivia is this:

Ahsoka currently holds the record for most decapitations in a single pass beating out famed Jason Voorhes of the the "Friday the 13th" series.

Sincerely,

Infinite Freedom

--Infinite Freedom (talk) 06:22, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

ANH Radio Drama Script
Hello Tope, given that you have worked on A New Hope characters (Davin Felth immediately comes to my mind), would you have Star Wars: The National Public Radio Dramatization? I am looking for anything relevant to TK-875 and TK-119. The radio drama itself just has Luke and Leia exchange some lines about that group of troopers, and an exchange of laser fire is heard. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 00:46, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

GAN archiving
Hey Toprawa. Just a note&mdash;I think you might have forgotten about featuring old GAs on the queue on the weekends. I fixed it up for you, so no worries. Don't worry; I forgot about it too until Cal reminded me. :P  CC7567  (talk) 23:58, August 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, yeah, sorry. Thanks for getting that. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:46, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

Userbox pic
I am trying to upload a picture of myself to use in my user info box but it will not let me upload it. The picture does belong to me, it contains no offensive materials. I just want to upload it. I keep getting error messages. Can you help me? Matt Seay (talk) 02:37, August 13, 2012 (UTC) > what does this mean? I don't think a picture of me holding a lightsaber is harmful do you? Matt Seay (talk) 02:46, August 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's likely you're not filling in the Source field, which I believe is a requirement. Just put anything in there. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:39, August 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * I have been, i can not figure out why I can not upload any picture at all. I just want to upload this one then I can just move on to my next thing on my list. Matt Seay (talk) 02:40, August 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * I really don't know what you're doing wrong without literally seeing what you're doing. The upload form is rather extensive and touchy in nature. I might suggest going down to the bottom of the page when you get the error message and there may be a notice allowing you to "go ahead and upload anyway" or something along those lines. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:42, August 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * I filled out the form and this is the message I get... <This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your edit was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Combined unverified user upload prevention
 * The content of the image you're trying to upload is irrelevant and is not what is causing your trouble. I believe the issue is that you do not have a confirmed e-mail address set up with Wikia, which is required to upload images. This is a safeguard put in place to prevent upload abuse. You need to go into your user preferences and set up and confirm an e-mail address. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:51, August 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay Thanks, I thought it was blocking my image for some other strange reason, I will go to me settings and see about my E-Mail. Matt Seay (talk) 02:54, August 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * You are most welcome. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:56, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

Recent deletion
Just wanted to draw your attention to this, since the deletion log lists you as the deleting admin. &mdash;MJ&mdash; Holocomm Monday, August 13, 2012, 02:56 UTC

Orphans
Hello. I understand why you reverted my edit in the article Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire (trading cards), it's just that I've been working with the "Orphan children" and the article Boa constrictor doesn't fit anywhere besides in its source. Do you know of any place else where I can link it? Winterz (talk) 19:26, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem, I figured that's what you were trying to do. You could probably get away with just sticking it into the Snake disambiguation page. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:36, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well even though it carries the real-life snake "Boa"'s name, the article doesn't say about presenting any resemblance to it or even that it is a snake...wouldn't it be speculating? :P Did it anyway. Winterz (talk) 20:20, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Meeting 49
Hilarious Entertaining AC Meeting 49&trade; is scheduled for August 25 at 8 PM UK time like usual. Please make an effort to show up. Cheers, 1358  (Talk)  22:50, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Queue
No worries. I was going to say something, but I didn't want to nag you. :P  CC7567  (talk) 18:18, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

Soft redirects
Hello. For some reason I have no edit access in two soft redirects and couldn't place the speedy delete template so basically I'm here to request, if it's no bother, to place the tag for the reason there explained, in the article Living in these Star Warz, or maybe do the act yourself (also it's better to remove the tag from here thereafter to avoid confusions). Thanks for your time. Winterz (talk) 02:22, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * The two pages in question are fully protected from editing specifically to prevent you from doing what you're trying to do, per community consensus. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:38, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well okay but all that I've been indicating are but incorrect copies redirecting to the exact same place than the correct redirect, or directing it to empty places, having no place in the Fan Wiki either, unless they approve clone articles. Also what I wanted to nominate for deletion was Living in these Star Warz, please change. Thanks for the heads-up. I'm an idiot and didn't notice it was an archive discussion. Forget it, although there's still the orphan pages and the fact that some are just duplicates. Winterz (talk) 03:02, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think those soft redirects need to stay orphan pages, since we agreed to delete them. What duplicates exist? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 03:09, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well I'm not sure I can call them that word, but most I mentioned were clone redirects of already-existing redirects. The Living in these Star Warz and Living in these Star Wars both redirect to 'Living in these Star Wars'. And some others. If I'm correct about these being considered duplicates, I'll mention th rest here. Winterz (talk) 03:20, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * I intentionally retained "Living in these Star Wars" as a soft redirect, since it's likely to be an extremely common misspelling. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 03:28, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

TCW trailer
About that video link to the official Star Wars site, for the page "Star Wars: The Clone Wars Season 5", this video is an extended version from the Star Wars YouTube page. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY1uKLTWnC4&feature=g-user-u I hope you'll reconsider. -Totechalienrexstar (talk) 22:42, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

Hi can you sort out the verification on the Atheno Portillo page as i am finding it difficult. the source and verification is star wars insider issue 135 article Marshalling The Troops!--Darthmaul208 (talk) 22:54, August 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:01, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

Ganks but no Ganks
Hey, Tope. As you know, the article Gank is up for AC review: AC/Gank (third review). I've given it some TLC, and the expansion has brought the article well above the 1,000 words needed for FAN. Thus, I'd like to nominate it for FA status. However, I'm not sure if this is a violation of either AC or INQ procedures, since the article is still under active AC review. Do you have any insight into this? Should I just go ahead and nominate it, or would it be wiser to wait until the AC review concludes? I'm fine with either approach, but figured I'd get clarification from an AC/INQ member first. Thanks for any help! ~ Savage  12:17, August 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure, feel free to go ahead and nominate it. What happens, technically, is that we'll reevaluate the article at the next meeting, determine that it has satisfactorily addressed the issues for which it was probed thus and maintain its GA status until it theoretically passes Inq review and becomes an FA. Thanks. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:41, August 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Cool, thanks. It's been nominated! ~ Savage BOB sig.png 23:16, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

Meeting 52
Inq meeting 52 is scheduled for 7 PM ET next Saturday. Be there if you can.  IFYLOFD  ( Floyd's crib ) 00:23, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

AC Meeting 51
Hey Toprawa. Meeting 51 is scheduled for this Saturday, the 20th. Make sure to come as your favorite Jedi Council member, or leave notes if you can't attend. Hope to see you there!  Eeth Koth  (talk) 01:36, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

Meeting 53
Hey Tope,

An early heads-up that Inq Meeting 53 has been scheduled for Saturday, November third at the usual time. Hope to see you there, and if not, be sure to leave some notes beforehand. Cheers. Menkooroo (talk) 12:16, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Re: GA queue
Ah, okay. Are you okay with having it queued right now, or do you want to have it sidelined for now? We can always wait on it and queue it later, since that's what we've been doing for other old GAs with problems; I'll do that if you don't mind. Thanks.  CC7567  (talk) 19:01, October 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Alrighty.  CC7567  (talk) 19:09, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

Rikkar-Du
Hey Tope; I've done a run through of Rikkar-Du. Articles for clans, Tassa's father, etc have been done, and I fixed a few errors and assumptions not present in the issue. Can you give it a once over in regards to linking since we both know I'm a chronic under-linker :P - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 10:51, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Just double checked; should be clan's, not clans' so I've changed that. As for the dash usage - I'm never sure, to be honest. Its formatted that way in the original source, so that's how I record it, but I'm not going to object to changing it. - Cavalier One FarStar.svg( Squadron channel ) 16:19, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

Request
Hi there, Tope, and thanks for your help with him. As the dead guy was actually an offshoot of my favourite pet-project, I was wondering if you could spare the time to give me your ideas about how I could improve it. Thanks again and may the Force be with you.--Dionne Jinn (Something to say?) 19:39, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it. My own life is going to be rather busy too for the next two weeks&mdash;there is a graduation ceremony coming up where I need to make an appearance. So, yeah, take your time. It is better to do it well, than fast, right?--Dionne Jinn (Something to say?) 22:05, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:16, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Species template
Hey, Tope, I didn't think |Eyrezer's edit to the Species infobox was anything that needed a TC to do. No one seemed to be objecting to changes to the species template in the recently closed TC, at any rate. But I didn't want to revert your change to it without getting your opinion first. If necessary, I'll start a CT to add the subspecies field. Thanks, ~ Savage  10:52, October 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, wasn't that basically the whole point of that CT? To get community approval for the inclusion of a subspecies field? No consensus was achieved, and I got the distinct impression in general that many didn't feel a new field was necessary to begin with, so going ahead and just inserting a new field anyway after this CT effectively failed seems rather inappropriate to me. I would suggest starting another CT to add the subspecies field as you say. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:12, October 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, actually the CT was specifically about character articles and the "Appearances" section of species articles, not the Species template. That's why I didn't think that change was particularly controversial, any more than adding "mass" to it a few months ago was. ~ Savage BOB sig.png 01:47, October 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * My mistake. I overlooked that the CT was about character infoboxes when closing it, rather than the species infobox. If you want to re-add that, then, feel free. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:52, October 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. I've restored it for now, since Eyrezer had gone ahead and changed a bunch of affected alien articles to reflect it. I plan to revisit the CT on the characters soon (advocating for the new infobox field exclusively, since the vote was so split between the various options), and I'll include an item about this too just to be fully transparent. (At any rate, I've heard that Star Wars: Episode 7 is going to be subtitled Attack of the Subspecies.) ~ Savage BOB sig.png 10:32, October 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nyak, Nyak, Nyak. :P Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:11, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Seven
Cue the fan community backlash.  CC7567  (talk) 21:03, October 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * You should be in IRC right now witnessing the fun. :P Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:04, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

New template
I have created a new template that could be used for the talk pages of the new Star Wars movies. I saw how the talk pages have already been deleted a couple of times so I just slapped this together real quick. Just curious of your take. Use it if you want. Fe Nite (talk) 18:39, October 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I imagine we will adopt that or something very similar soon enough. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:42, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

My WOTM claims
Argh Toprawa, I didn't mean forging info and introducing it in the article, I just pointed out that he added several 'objects' without throughout verification and by that I mean incorrect additions of and  templates, which were obviously not verified beforehand. I'm sorry if I wasn't too explicit and was misunderstood. I guess my words did sound kind of harsh but its nothing like that. I accept whatever punishment you might want to apply on me due to this misunderstanding, just understand that I was merely pointing out Revan's simple and mostly innocent flaws (or so I think). Still, I thought they could be relevant to the matter at hand. Winterz (talk) 02:48, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

You duh best
Feel free to add this to your page for helping pretty much everyone. :P Especially for all the work you did helping me get my music projects going. :) MasterFred (Whatever) 03:47, November 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I do try. :) MasterFred Commerce Guild.svg(Whatever) 20:19, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Ropal
It's actually&hellip;semi-legit. I've fixed it. I can go into detail about the chronology mess, but it might just be easier to look here if you're interested. :P  CC7567  (talk) 19:58, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

Disney ACmoot
ACmoot inbound. Please bring a weapon of your choice for article slaying.&mdash; Cal Jedi (Personal Comm Channel) 00:24, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Yakun Kwaad
Hey Tope; I ran the GA brush over Yakun Kwaad like you asked. The info on him is sparse, so most of it was fine. Just some linking issues, and I reffed the thing because I like it that way :p If you want to run an eye over it and think certain things need more context, etc, then let me know. - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 12:38, November 15, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for moving all of the Battle of Alaris Prime related pages. I probably would have done it ages ago if I'd known how to properly handle it, but I'm really happy that it finally got done, Cheers. :)  Commander Code-8  To say hi, press 42 06:59, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Z-95 FAN
Hey Toprawa. Just wanted to let you know that I did a small update to the clone Z-95 starfighter on the FAN since you reviewed it, if you wanted to glance through the changes. Thanks.  CC7567  (talk) 02:36, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I will do that. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:38, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks good. Thanks again. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:51, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure. Thanks for the review.  CC7567  (talk) 02:56, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Music LG CT
I have removed the "Lyrics" section from the guide and added a bit into the "Conception and development" section stating that the writing of the lyrics is to be included here. A link to LyricWiki will be provided in the "Further reading" section and the infobox. MasterFred (Whatever) 15:48, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Master and Apprentice
I got to thinking the other day, and I realized just how much you've been helping me since I got here. Might as well pull this one out from the bottom drawer: I remember that my first interaction with you was when you blocked me. (I know, right? I hardly remember it either, but that's how it happened.) I've learned a lot about writing, editing, reviewing, and community interaction from you since then, and it's continued even after I joined the administration. You've always been a huge help, whether it's pointing me in the right direction regarding how to address an objection, noticing a slight linking inconsistency across my articles that I didn't catch (and that no one else but you would have noticed), or simply being a great friend. I'm still learning from your attention to detail even now, but I'm happy to say that you're one of the main reasons why I began to pay so much attention to the details. Thank you for the work you do, and many this seventh Master and Apprentice award be a testament to your guidance.  CC7567  (talk) 05:30, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

R4-K5 Sourcing
Hi T 'n' R! I'm in a pickle over R4-K5 at the mo, and wonder if you could help me. Information on the page, not added by me, says that R4-K5 was a Jedi Order droid - where is that info from? Is it fanon or actual info? Also, if you want to look over the article and tell me what you think of its recent overhaul by me, then by all means do so. Check the History to see what I've done! Thank you muchly, OtterSurf (talk) 21:10, November 23, 2012 (UTC)