Forum:CT Archive/Fan-made Maps

Springing primarily out of the 2/28/06 meeting, but having popped up several times in the past, is the debate over the use of fanmade or fan-altered images on the site. This track is intended to rule on the use of one image in particular: the galactic map(s) from Nav-computer.com (which were recently released for our use by their creator). Supporters say that maps don't fall under the jurisdiction of fan art, since they're merely compilations of official data, while opponents say that no image of any kind not obtained directly from an official source should be used.

While a decision on these images could affect similar debates over altered official images, and even pure fan art itself, please limit debate on this page solely to use of these maps. CooperTFN 04:29, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Use them

 * 1) CooperTFN 04:29, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) RMF 04:34, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) Riffsyphon1024 04:38, 1 March 2006 (UTC) And after all the waiting we went through too.
 * 4) Ozzel 04:56, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 5) &mdash;Darth Culator   (talk)  04:58, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Don't use them

 * 1) &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 05:45, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Comments

 * I've been debating this with Jay for the last two hours, so I'll try to make my point quickly. This entire site is fanon. No text article is 100% canon; there are always going to be little interpretations the author is forced to make that could be wrong, or ever actual canon information that is later contradicted. Our goal should simply be the highest degree of accuracy possible, and I believe that the maps in question, if you were to look at them in terms of mathematical accuracy, are at least as reliable as some of our larger articles. If an officially-produced map existed that was as comprehensive as the NC maps, we'd naturally use it instead, but it doesn't, so we should be using the best map available. Who actually did the grunt work is irrelevant. CooperTFN 04:29, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Maps, yes. Fan-edited images, sometimes. Original artwork, no. &mdash;Darth Culator   (talk)  04:58, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I second this. -- Riffsyphon1024 05:00, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Right...explanation :) If the transciption of the meeting was up I wouldn't need to but here goes. Although we have very detailed fanart for a character, and a ship (past history had it with a picture), which does indeed conform perfectly to what it should look like canonically, it has not been allowed to be used. I don't see why this should be any different for maps, as the ones under discussion as just as much fanart. Although the information on them is very accurate, the images themselves are not canon in any way. I do believe, however, that we should have them as external links as I do very much like the maps myself. When the log gets put up my argument will make at least a little more sense, as this doesn't seem to be getting my point over properly. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 05:45, 1 March 2006 (UTC)