User talk:Havac

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Force Commander update discussion
It seems you have a very complete understanding of force ocmmander. Can i suggest you update Tyr Taskeen as well? thank you.
 * Yep, it's on the way. Expect an update on him in a week or so. Havac 15:02, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Done -- Havac 01:12, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

good job! i look forward to seeing expansions on Brashin and beri tulon.

good job on Beri tulon. is brashin next?


 * Yes, at some point he will be updated as well. Depending on my mood, I might do a smaller FoCom article first. Havac 02:39, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Need any help with your FoCom update crusade? I was planning on doing it a while ago but I got side-tracked. Am willing to collaborate with you if you could use a hand with a couple articles --beeurd 17:13, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Votes for deletion/Yahez
Hello! Thanks for your contribution on Votes for deletion/Yahez! I'm kinda new, but possess a considerable amount of knowledge on the normal English Wikipedia. How do you put 'em up for speedy AfD here?

Thanks!

Also, could you please vote what you think on Votes for deletion/Yahez? That would be appreciated!

Cheers,

 Relentless Recusant  15:29, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Mandalorian Categories

 * Just a minor point: Usually when a character is in a "subcategory", there's no need for the more expansive category. i.e. If Boba is in a "Mandalore" category, he doesn't need a "Mandalorian" category, since Mandalore is a subcategory of Mandalorian (as all Mandalores are Mandalorian), likewise with Mandalorian Protector and Mandalorian, etc... QuentinGeorge 03:59, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I know. There's an anon who's editing too -- he's the one leaving the Mandalorian categories in. I'm removing them as I get to them (although with someone with a ton of cats, like Fett, I might miss one). Havac 04:01, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok, looking again, it was more the anon I should've pointed this out to. Apologies. QuentinGeorge 04:19, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * No need. Havac 04:20, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Good effort
Just wanted to say congrats on your great effort last month, you climbed 205 places! --Eyrezer 04:34, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I never even knew those stats were available. Wow. Havac 04:37, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Force Commander Articles
You know, with an expanded lead, and a "Personality and Traits" section, each of those Force Commander articles you put up for GA would be FA worthy. . .  .  .  06:22, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

I started the Battle Of Ruul Article you added on it.# 24.215.174.33

Prose
Hey, I noticed you cited prose issues as a reason against Chik Apla. I just caught this now, and I read over the article once more and still thought it read reasonably well. Could you point me in the right direction? Cull Tremayne 08:55, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It's amazing what you can notice if you don't just skim the article. I made a couple more edits trying to reduce redundant usage of words, etc. Still, if there are any other glaring prose corrections I can make, can you give me the heads up? Cull Tremayne 09:16, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The things you can do with a fresh perspective. Thanks for the help. One vote at a time :P.Cull Tremayne 04:21, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yep, just some tweaks. Havac 06:24, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Wreckin' Shop
Wow, I was just looking around the recent changes on Sunday night. Man, this boy is going _off_! keep up the good work. Serendipitousus 08:30, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Haha, yeah, I'm doing a little recatting. Havac 08:33, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Unblock request?
As I said on User talk:67.142.130.17, if that IP is yours, it doesn't appear to be blocked. I'm not sure what the deal is. Try to edit again while logged in: if not, put unblock here. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 02:17, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
 * It seems that IP was caught in a range block Darth Culator applied : but now the IP ranges have shifted, so the person we were trying to catch with that range block probably isn't using those IPs anymore. I've unblocked the range. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 02:28, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Havac 02:32, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

This seems to be related to the above. Havac, your edits (or some of them) show IP address 67.142.130.24 in the history the last couple of days. But your signature shows Havac. Strange?? -Fnlayson 06:52, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
 * That's me. Something to do with my home internet -- I can't stay logged in. I can log in and stay in for a page or so, but if I click I get logged out and have a heck of a time getting back in. I've pretty much given up on it, so I'm editing as an anon, and when I feel it's important to associate myself with my Senate/CT edits, I manually type in my sig. I seem to be logged in at the moment, so we'll see if that will hold after I click to save. Havac 06:17, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
 * It held! Then I clicked edit to say that it held an I got logged out. Ugh. 67.142.130.24 06:18, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

CT-01/425
In what specific mission does he refer to himself as "01/425"? --Imp 20:00, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Prosecutor. I can't remember the exact title of the sub-mission, but I'm pretty sure it's right after the Lucrehulk shows up. I'm going to replay it over break and get more specifics to you in a week and a half or so. Havac

Shola Ruins
Do you have Empire at War? If so, do you know anything about the Shola Ruins? Your page says you are a Star Wars gamer so you seem like a good bet. Thanks. Chack Jadson 21:33, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Nope, sorry. No EAW for me. Havac 03:31, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
 * K, thanks. Chack Jadson 20:33, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Z-95 Headhunter
You objected to this article being a Good Article, saying that it could be expanded even to the extent of being a FA. Subsequently. a number of other people have voted for it, and it now has over 5 votes for. I wanted to ask if you still objected, keeping in mind the lower requirements for GA than FA? --Eyrezer 22:26, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I stand by my objection. GA is, as far as I understand it, for articles of FA quality but without the multiplicity of sources and information on the topic required to make a good FA. The Headhunter article doesn't have all the information I think it should. If it were to get that information and be written well enough for GA, I would think that there would be enough content for FA. Go ahead and promote it if you want, but I don't feel right striking my objection. 67.142.130.11 07:34, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm. The process for GAs is not very clear. The page states that only 5 votes are needed, but clearly your objection has is still valid and the article is unchanged. There seems to be two types of GAs to me, the type you describe—articles that are essentially finished, but not long enough for FA—and those articles that are capable of FA status but only part way there. I'll sit with it for a while longer. --Eyrezer 08:50, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Recruitment

 * I've noticed your excellent work in article clean-up, especially on characters, and I would like to invite you to be part of the WookieeProject The New Essential Guide to Characters. Feel free to reply on my talk page. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 22:27, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Excellent. The main focus (Lando) is mostly done, except for redlinks and Marvel stuff- feel free to look that over. I'll be taking over the project in Imp's absence, and I'd like your input on a new main focus thread that I'm about to start. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 22:49, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Inquisitorius
On the IRC, a few of our illustrious admins are putting together an FA Review council. It comprises of Cull Tremayne, Atarumaster88, StarNeptune, Darth Culator (I think), and myself. I'm there because they need a few regular users on the panel too, and your name also popped up as another panel member. If you're interested, just join in the IRC chat. Or leave a message on my talk page. Whatever suits. . .  .  .  05:11, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Article
Hello, thanks so much for tagging that Mace Windus Attack Battalion article, it makes no sense. Thanks BobafettH23 21:50, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * No problemo. Havac 21:52, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Mystery Jedi
In the Unused Images thread you mentioned Image:Mystery Jedi.JPG. In the UTC files they're just named "Jedi", although other info in the files suggests that they're Council members.

If I have this right: The one on our left has an appearance called "Jedi_Council_Member_Female" and a tag suggesting the same thing; she always looks like that. The other two have tags with "jedicoun" in them, but their appearance seems to be randomized (though one is always male and the other female). Hope that helps. - Lord Hydronium 04:13, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Alright, cool, thanks. Havac 08:25, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

SOTE wiki
I see down at the bottom of your page you say that you have created most of the Shadows of the Empire page. User:Quinlanfan is trying to get a SOTE wiki up and running at http://requests.wikia.com/wiki/Starwarssote, would you be willing to help us out over there IF we can start it? It would help a WHOLE bunch! supergeeky1 11:14, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

QOTD help sought
Could you give me your opinion about this? Forum:Anons and mysteriously appearing voters: help or advice? I'm uncertain whether to count the votes of this user. Enochf 09:32, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

WookieeCookiee!
Mmmm. I has a cookiee. Havac 23:49, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

that vader pic
Why do you insist that this disputed pic is not a Battlefield Holographic Control Interface? The Force Commander first level tells us that the investigation for the droids was commanded via one. MoffRebus 23:08, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * If I may just butt in for a second...that's the Death Star Conference room he's in. Which is not a BHCI. .  .  .  .  23:22, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Brenn was at the only known BHCI at the time. Vader is at something which clearly doesn't resemble the BHCI seen in the other pic. Identifying Vader's holotable as a BHCI is simply fanon. Havac 05:34, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Powah!
Congratulations on your powah. . . your EXTREEEEEMELY LIMITED POWAH! jSarek 00:31, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Figures it would happen while I'm away. Thanks. Havac 04:56, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Sarlim Gastess
Is this less POV? Unfortunately, the description in GG9 isn't NPOV to begin with....&mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 23:21, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * It works. Havac 23:22, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Re:

 * I don't see it as redundant tagging. Each of those tags addresses a separate issue that exists within the article. An example of original research/speculation is "here seems, in contrast, to be little direct evidence for bottle-fed infant formula or wet-nursing, making it hard to assess the extent to which these alternative techniques were used" etc. The original research is the made up stuff or speculated content. An example of disputed factual accuracy is   "Similarly, the physique that T'ra Saa, who was a Neti—essentially a sentient tree—assumed in her pseudo-human form can be regarded as consciously chosen, as she was in fact a shape-shifter", etc.- parts of which are true and canon but parts of which aren't. I see that as extending the canon to fill in the gaps- creating a factual discrepancy about what is canon and what isn't. And an example of NPOV is the entire cultural significance section, which basically takes a pro-mainstream Galactic society slant. Instead of just stating the different significances, whatever of breasts in those societies, it makes direct comparisons (and even holds as more significant) the view of mainstream society. To me, that's POV. So no, the tags aren't redundant. I think the reader should be made aware of the various issues in the article, and three tags are appropriate.  Atarumaster88  20:35, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Dah Trash Compactor!
Good job coming up with that one. It was a duh kind of thing but its perfect for article recyclification. We could still have a dianoga delete the articles though. :) --  Riffsyphon  1024 20:49, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'm surprised no one came up with it first. And you'll have to find someone else to be your dianoga wrangler, though. Havac 20:53, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Hunts of Boba Fett
I'd like to personally thank you for your help with the images on Hunts of Boba Fett, I've put a couple of days of rereading books into getting this article up and running and I'm glad to see that someone gives it enough merit to help out with the little things to make it look better, your work is greatly appreciated, and I see it as a show of support for this type of article, that gives a slight more detail into some of the more interesting moments in the characters life. N.Y.N.E. Comlink 05:37, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem. Though if I were you, I wouldn't add any more images until you get enough text to support them -- that Wat Tambor one in particular is taking up quite a bit of space. Havac 05:39, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually I'm coming up in the books on two more hunts that should start filling things out better, one of which I believe is the Wat hunt   N.Y.N.E. Comlink[[Image:sithempire2.png|30px]] 06:23, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Wow.
Somebody's bored. --School of Thrawn 101 07:24, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Eh, I hates teh redlinks. :p Havac 07:28, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * They are known to cause excessive itching. --School of Thrawn 101 07:32, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * And rash. Don't forget the rash. Havac 07:33, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Who can forget the rash? ...I hate the rash. --School of Thrawn 101 07:36, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations

 * Congratulations on your elevation to POWAH!!! Sorry we didn't get the paperwork done for you like we should have. jSarek 08:22, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't count on it getting done any time soon&mdash;my Cabal membership card still hasn't arrived. Congratulations. Green Tentacle (Talk) 10:09, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but There Is No Cabal. Havac 15:51, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Guestbook?!

 * That wasn't a "guestbook!" That was merely a list of people who put their name on my list if they needed help with edting! Sheesh, what's happened to this site? Are you guys gonna ban signatures and user pages next? I was only trying to help newcomers. Please put it back. Thank you.  Darth Anxor [[Image:Sithempire2.png|20px]] Sith Order  22:10, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Jerec
Hey, very sorry for breaking up your edit there. I just wasn't thinking at all. plus, consumed by anger at stupidity. Again, sorry.--Erl

Apology
I'm sorry I blew up at you. You're right, that personal attack was pointless. You can actually put deleted content back!? I never knew that...So, you were going to give it back to him on the fanon wiki? Ohhhhh... I really shouldn't have said anything at all. It was none of my business.--1upD 23:41, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, now that I'm past my anger I see what you meant by that. Why would 8311 do that? *SIGH*--1upD 00:33, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Just to avoid any bad blood
I wanna set the record straight. You had unanonimous support from many well-respected users and amins on your request for adminship, and I have a clear impression that you know the ins and outs of Wookieepedia as well as is to be expected from an admin. These things convince me that you are very capable, even if I may have given you another impression. No doubt, the Wook will be better off than it was before your promotion. Do not consider this an apology, however. I am not in the habit of doing things I don't believe in, and I never apologize as a way to make up with someone, unless I feel I was in the wrong. This is merely to let you know I don't have a vendetta, and isn't being unreasonable. This is the core of the matter: I think, that in spite of your good admin qualities, you have seen the worst of vandalism all too often, and it has made you a tad more triggerhappy, unforgiving and hotheaded than you ideally could be. While I have nothing to bring to the noticeboard in terms of formal complaints on you, I do not intend to keep my mouth shut if I see the ones in power getting too fiercely protective of the Wook as to forget to give someone the benefit of the doubt. And I am not hinting at anything specific now, just speaking generally. Sikon is much like you in this regard, and I have critizised him in the past as well. As anyone in power, an admin must be prepared to face criticism from his subjects. It helps keeping him grounded. I will be one of those subjects. But I realize I can be less snide about it than I have been in the past. So, if I say: "Havac, I think you are crossing the line here", in stead of "So, Havac, playing evil Emperor again, are we?", would that be better? DarthMRN 22:58, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem. If you don't like what you see, you should always be free to raise a complaint. I certainly wouldn't want to stop you. However, I don't think the way you went about doing it was productive. If you have a problem with an admin action, it's generally best to take it to the noticeboard -- which isn't, as you seem to think, a formal complaint -- or to that admin's talkpage. However, it's generally best not to turn an admin's warning into a giant debate about the warning. The warning is then lost in the tumult of discussion and it undermines the authority of the admin making the warning. It's the same concept behind the three-revert rule. Instead of continually edit-warring over a change you see as negative, you step back from the object in question and you take it to the talkpage, where it can be fully discussed without disrupting the article. It might cause what you see as a negative situation to continue in the article, but it's a wiki and it can always be changed later; meanwhile, you're discussing it more fully in a better forum for such a discussion and proper procedure is being followed. I hope we can both agree that that's a better approach. Havac 23:07, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Points well taken. DarthMRN 23:26, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Question

 * Mayhap we should redirect and lock that most powerful jedi/sith nonsense? It keeps coming back. Atarumaster88  20:44, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I'll take a look. Havac 21:30, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

If you are going to ban me, thats fine. I know another wiki that i like and i'll transfer there.TheMasterDestroyer 10:06, 19 May 2007

Jerec

 * I was just looking in the POTJ sourcebook, and it said that Jerec was looking for the Valley of the Jedi even before he went to the dark side. You'll know how best to incorporate that or make a note if it contradicts something elsewhere. --Eyrezer 12:01, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm looking to get my hands on the sourcebook itself and I'll add it shortly. Havac 21:32, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Check out this

 * Check out how I was basically virtually lynched for "daring" to question Drew Karpshyn's Darth Bane novel. Truly incredible. It seems if you don't gush over every author at the OS, you're a heretic. QuentinGeorge 03:24, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I like the guy who says the comic was too kiddie. It was way more adult than the book ever managed. But it's got a satyr in it, so it's kiddie. But yeah, the SW.com boards are pretty moroniffic. "It's for adults like me . . . naw, d00d, Drew's the man and it's so important because you can't be kickass kewl if you're not the man! That is so a rockin' counterpoint to your statement!" I'm so glad I don't post there, or I'd bust a vein. Havac 03:32, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Intensify the forward firepower
Crix Madine is going nowhere on the WookieeProject. I personally say we should do a character that more people are knowledgeable about, as well as a former FA, so I was thinking Mara Jade Skywalker. I am, however, open to ideas at Forum:New Main Focus. Also, I saw your old thread on your schedule, and I'd be happy to help out on Face and Fel if you want the help. Mind you, if you prefer to do it all yourself, I'm good with that too. Atarumaster88  ( Talk page ) 14:29, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Just fyi

 * Havac, we've had our share of disagreements recently- on your RFA, Forum:Jack Nebulax, Forum:Users that are squeezing by, etc. I just wanted to let you know that though I find myself disagreeing with your positions and methods on a number of issues, that I still have a lot of respect for you as a Wookieepedian. I wouldn't want anything like our disagreements on things to get in the way of us working well together. Cheers. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 13:59, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

COPPA Block Paleontologist.piczo
I would like to talk about my block. First of all, I am an official Dutch citizen and have never set foot in the U.S., so I don't have anything to do with the law of the U.S.. And my 13th birthday is 5 September 2007. So if you decide that this law also counts for me, do relies that my block should be removed on that date. Please contact me with this email adres:

[email deleted]

P.S.

Please remove this email adres from your User Talk page as soon as you have contacted me.

Nog een fijne dag.

Paleontologist.piczo Paleontologist.piczo
 * You're probably not going to read this, but I'll throw it out there on the off chance that you do. Hopefully it'll save Havac the trouble...COPPA applies to all Wikia sites because Wikia's servers are HQ'd within the boundaries of the USA, not Holland.  That's how the internet works, you see. --School of Thrawn 101 10:58, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * That's how it works . . . except, it appears, that we as Administrators aren't supposed to enforce this; see Forum:Issues of age and identity. As a result, I will be lifting the block and notifying the user. jSarek 11:20, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for releasing the block. But I have a question, are the other users that have been blocked because of COPPA also going to be unblocked?
 * Since we're not entirely certain what this change in policy entails for us yet, we're taking it slowly, and only unbanning those who make the request. jSarek 19:57, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Jack Nebulax
It might interest you to know that he is edit warring AGAIN on the Darth Wyyrlok (IV) article, he should be banned PERMANTLY.{{Unsigned|172.141.188.61}
 * FWIW, Jack has edited that article a total of twice this week, so I'm not sure what the above user is talking about. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 23:08, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, it's the talk page that user is complaining about. Of course, Jack seems to have given up there after being overruled by the other users.  Personally, I'm more inclined to go with Din's Fire 997 on the subject, but the conjecture flag with BTS note works for me too. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 23:14, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Inq meeting

 * Havac, we are having an meeting for Inqs this weekend, and your attendance/input would be greatly appreciated. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 15:39, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Mara Jade

 * Also, I recall you saying you didn't mind NJO too much. We're in the final stages of taking Mara Jade to FA-nom-ready status, and it's blasted hard to find NJO writers besides myself and Greyman. Would you mind doing some expansions on a couple of the books in the next week or so? It'd really help us out. Thanks. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 17:56, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm glad to hear that you love the NJO series. As you know, though "pretty good" is not good enough for this nasty, nit-picky group of people we have who think they run the FA nom page though. ;-) We're going through and expanding the article from the novels one by one. StarNeptune said she'd help out, which gives us some leeway, but if you wouldn't mind doing some expansions from The Final Prophecy and Agents of Chaos I: Hero's Trial in the next week or so, it'd be a great aid. Thanks. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 03:33, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Requested Scans

 * First of the long list of scans you requested. -- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|20px]] Talk 05:46, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Agen Kolar in Obsession.

Requested screencaps
I can't get a complete pic of Kolar igniting his saber or a decent shot of Sora Bulq from AOTC, nor could I get a longer shot of BoShek (though there's still hope for that one if I sit down and sift through the frames). I did, however, replace BoShek's main pic and get you two shots of Kolar on the ROTS council. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 18:16, 29 August 2007 (UTC)