Talk:Emperor's Royal Guard/Legends

Origins?

 * There have been red-clad royal guards before the Imperial stormtroopers even existed. I suspect the unit was originally formed from senate guards by chancellor Palpatine in the first ten years of his office. As I understand it, the text is based on West End Games material that was written before the nature of stormtroopers as being clones was established. Why test stormtroopers on size requirements? --Gen.d 19:11, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
 * We know that not all stormtroopers were clones, as some were given birth stories, so it is reasonable that some Royal Guards were also not clones. --SparqMan 19:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Early Name
There were Red Guards in AOTC and ROTS; what was their name beofre the Empire? The Chancery Guard? Kuralyov 00:28, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * I imagine that based on what we know of the relationship between Stormtroopers and Royal Guards, that the red armored guards seen in ROTS are Shock Troopers in ceremonial dress. --SparqMan 01:09, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * So, what we're seeing in AotC are already Coruscant-trained shocktroopers (or even troopers from the 501st)? Palpatine thumbing his nose at the Jedi and the Senate by having clone troopers in his personal escort already? I like that? *grins* --McEwok 16:56, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * In the time of the Republic they were called Red Guards (from ROTS novelization), later Palpatine renamed them to the Royal Guards

Royal Guards under other Imperial leaders
And a quick question to try to clear up the origins of Isard's Royal Guards - from memory, they first appear when she's kicking the S*th out of Carvin at the end of the XWRS comic run - but do we see Royal Guards with Pestage or the Tribunal earlier? Thanks!! --McEwok 16:56, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * Doing the Kir Kanos article and was wondering if the Royal Guards didnt side with anybody during palpatine's hiatus as emperor why are they seen with pestage and isard? if they kept to themselves, did they just go yinchorr or byss and did nothing? --Razzy1319 08:08, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * The mythos of the Imperial guard probably isn't literally, totally true: Vin Northall allready defected to the Alliance, Tierce remains with his stormtrooper unit and then serves Thrawn, Carnor Jax is part of a group who answer to Isard and who she gives to Lumiya. --McEwok 11:01, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Red, Scarlet, Crimson
Does anyone object to me changing "crimson" to the more correct "scarlet" in the description of the Guard's armour? The Crimson Empire title was to do with someone getting muddled up with the G.I. Joe "Crimson Guard"; that said, the stormtrooper armour of Lumiya's two squads is described as crimson in SWG #3, "crimson" can be used to mean "red" generally, and the databank behind the scenes remarks use it as well... --McEwok
 * I don't mind if it hasn't already been done. Admiral J. Nebulax 13:03, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Updates
Added Vin Northal from Cracken's Rebel Operatives; corrected a few things about Isard, Lumiya, and Carnor Jax, mainly using Gamer #5 --McEwok 13:29, 12 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Armour of Imperial Guard
There seem to be discrepancies between the armour as seen in the films and the armour as seen in publications such as 'Crimson Empire'.In fact,the helmets in the films seem to be a singular moulded piece,whereas the helmets in comic clearly allow the wearer to crane his neck or peer around corners.It is said in the article that the armour does not restrict movement,but how exactly does that work?
 * Well, we don't exactly see the guards in the movies crane their necks or peer around corners. Therefore, since the comics do, it means it doesn't restrict movement. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:09, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * what i mean is,if the helmet's a moulded piece of plastic,as it seems to be in the films,how can the guard move their necks at all?Crimson empire (especially the cover art) shows the helmet as being a solid part removed from the chest armour (similar to a stormtrooper) bit with a 'sheath' of cloth or flexible plastic.Clearly the discrepancies lie in the composition and structure of the helmets.
 * Where does it say that the helmet was a moulded piece of plastic? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 12:06, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * good point.But it LOOKS like a singular piece of um..'armourplast' or whatever the particular substance is.With no joins,seams or differences in texture I think we can assume from FILM evidence that it was a singular piece of plastic.I would imagine that Stormtrooper armour and Royal Guard armour would be made of roughly the same material.It's hard to imagine The Emperor forking out PHRIK to his (supposed) 50,000 royal guards.
 * Looking like something and being something are two different things. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 17:16, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * how annoyingly prescient of you ^^
 * "I'm just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe." Sorry, I just had to say it. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:05, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Red guards in red stormtrooper armor?
I'm curious, where does it say that Lumiya's red troops are really red royal guards that we know from the movies? ArcTrooper1138
 * I'm almost positive that's the case. I forget where it said it, though. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 12:50, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

The Royal Guard during Attack of the Clones?
I'm not sure why this wouldn't be considered an appearance for them when they can be clearly seen during the Palpatine office scenes. Unless it's a different royal guard...-- Redemption Talk 01:20, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Those were the Red Guards, which would become the Emperor's Royal Guards in RotS. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 14:18, 26 July 2006 (UTC)