Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Hoth asteroid field


 * ''The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a featured article nomination that was successful. Please do not modify it.

(6 Inqs/4 Users/10 Total)
Support
 * 1) Yay for ESB articles. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:16, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) &mdash; Darthtyler http://images.wikia.com/swfanon/images/1/18/Scuba_Diver.gif Talk 01:25, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) About time an Inq read this. Brought to mind fond memories of reading ESB.  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 01:32, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Forget the template, Ataru?  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 02:07, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) *How thoughtless of me. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 03:58, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) Imperialles 22:48, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 03:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 8)  Hobbes ( Tiger's Lair ) 16:30, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) Cull Tremayne 20:31, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 10)  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 21:55, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 11)  Graestan ( Talk ) 04:29, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Oppose Comments
 * 1) From the Bridge of Chack Jadson:
 * 2) * Un-italicize Darksaber Project. Actually, you'll have to do several time throughout the article.
 * 3) **Good catch. I had based the italics on a quote from Lemelisk, but it's clear after further review that it was meant for emphasis; and no other source italicizes it as far as I can see.
 * 4) * In the first paragraph of "Description", change "of a collision eons prior to the Galactic Civil War." It sounds repetitive, as you already used it in the intro.
 * 5) **Understood, but there is no other way to gauge the true age of the field. "Eons" is a very general term to describe, presumably, hundreds of millions of years. And no source gives anything more specific than "eons."
 * 6) ***Okay.
 * 7) * "known as exogorths, or colloquially called "space slugs." "Colloquially called" seems redundant.
 * 8) **I took out "or," since that was unnecessary, but remember that articles are written for the casual visitor to our site. How many people are going to know that an exogorth is a space slug?
 * 9) * "where they hoped to deliver the captive Dark Jedi, Alysun Celz, to the Jedi High Council. Kenobi and Skywalker were able to rescue the lone survivor, Et Rex, and detain Celz." It seems as though Celz and Rex survived, yet you call Rex the lone survivor.
 * 10) **Clarified.
 * 11) * In the second paragraph of Darksaber Project, link Delta and Gamma.
 * 12) **Linked, and linked Alpha and Beta for good measure. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:02, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 13) *Refreshing.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 20:24, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * 15) * Please remove "a virtual gold mine," or at least reword. It just sounds weird in a system that actual does export metal ore, but not gold.
 * 16) **Very true. Used a much more appropriate phrase.
 * 17) *The phrase "against all odds" is used a bit excessively in this article, particularly in regards to Solo. And it reminds one of Threepio's nattering.
 * 18) **Haha. Oh, Threepio!
 * 19) * "In fact, Solo had cleverly attached the Falcon to the backside of the Avenger's bridge tower, the last place he knew the predictable Imperial Navy would search." Bit of POVishness here.
 * 20) **Very POV. And bit of OR, to boot.
 * 21) * "distress signal transmitted from Madine's source through the HoloNet directly to the New Republic Defense Fleet prompted a response by a task force led by General Wedge Antilles." Madine's source? That's not what I recall.
 * 22) **A poor attempt at explanation. Reworded.
 * 23) * "Before the New Republic force could fully engage the Darksaber, however, the Hutt superweapon was obliterated between two massively sandwiching asteroids, killing Durga and creating yet more scattered debris among the field." IIRC, the superweapon was fully engaged and was getting pelted with turbolaser shots.
 * 24) **Fact. Reworded.
 * 25) *Excellent read overall. Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 23:29, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 26) Someone added links to Alpha, Beta, Gamma, and Delta, which were disambigs. There are no specific pages for those units, so after specifying the links they are red. Unless I missed something when I was searching for those pages, this breaks rule 8. --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 02:26, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 27) *Apparently, Mineral Exploiter Alpha, etc. are all redirects to Automated Mineral Exploiter. Cleaned up the redlinks. Toprawa and Ralltiir 06:13, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 28) From Graestan the Mighty:
 * 29) * Cannot a different image be found for the infobox? One of just the field itself?
 * 30) **You would think there would be a good image to be had from somewhere in the movie, but there really isn't. As I've alluded to below, I went through the film pretty much frame by frame, trying to pick something out for Culator to grab, but nothing good. There are no good shots of just the field itself; a ship is in just about every frame in one capacity or another. And, as you can see, SW.com did some touching up of the infobox pic, making it lighter. Screen grabs from the movie are going to look dark and difficult to see, as the Star Destroyer pic looks in the body of the article. Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:50, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 31) ***Damned lawyers. Graestan ( Talk ) 04:29, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 32) * Speaking of that image, its true origin needs to be noted in the source field.
 * 33) **Already done, thanks to Culator. Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:10, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 34) * Thinly veiled atmospheres? How so?
 * 35) **Ask the guy I paid to write this thing.
 * 36) * Please expand your description of the mynock.
 * 37) **Yeah, what I thought. Mynock.
 * 38) * Extremely not keen on referring to the eras in articles. Not exactly IU.
 * 39) **I had to call in some favors and do some things downtown that I'm not too proud of, but they've been reworded. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:39, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 40) *That is all. Very nice BtS. Graestan ( Talk ) 01:36, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 41) From the lair of Hobbes15
 * 42) * Is it possible to get a sentence in the intro on the results of the Darksaber Project?
 * 43) **Added.
 * 44) * I'm seeing some inconsistencies between the sources and appearances and the notes and references. Clean this up, please.
 * 45) **All information from available appearances and sources has been added, unless you name a source that is lacking new info. Items not appearing in the references list do not do so because they do not contain new information.
 * 46) ***I see. However, I don't believe The Prize Pelt is listed in appearances, while it is referenced. The other stuff I probably overestimated. Hobbes ( Tiger's Lair ) 02:01, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 47) ****Ahhhh, I understand what you're seeing now. Prize Pelt never actually makes a mention of the asteroid field. However, someone, I believe Tinian I'att without checking, mentions that, while they are aboard the Executor just after Vader debriefs the bounty hunters in the film, they are somewhere near the Anoat system, obviously derived from Leia's line. Based on the other stories in Tales of the Bounty Hunters, and as mentioned in the article itself, the hunters rendezvoused with Vader at a point just beyond the asteroid field. So, I used Prize Pelt as just another source as proof that the asteroid field does indeed extend into the Anoat system itself. Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:24, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 48) *****Ah. My bad. Hobbes ( Tiger's Lair ) 16:30, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 49) *Besides that, very well-written and polished. Good work. Hobbes ( Tiger's Lair ) 00:50, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 50) **Of course it is. I wrote it. ;) Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:33, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 51) ***Keep it in your pants, flyboy. :P Graestan ( Talk ) 01:39, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 52) ****Heh :). Hobbes ( Tiger's Lair ) 02:01, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

'''Approved by Inquisitorius 04:29, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Kudos to Muuurgh, Jaymach, and Culator for their assistance. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:16, 1 February 2008 (UTC)


 * It might just be me, but on the main image, the TIE Fighter looks a little weird being in the middle of the image like that. Perhaps you could get a better main image?&mdash; priceline negotiator [[Image:Priceline.JPG|20px]] 23:22, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I concur. As with the rest, impressive sourcing!  Stake black   msg 23:36, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Ideally, I would like to have a picture showing the belt's ring from afar with large asteroids in the foreground. We had an image up there similar to what I'm describing, but it looked too dark and was framed through the Millennium Falcon's cockpit, and I disliked it, so I removed it. In any case, I feel the infobox image sums up the asteroid field quite nicely: it shows us some of the larger asteroids, it shows the belt's ring in the background, and the colliding ship represents what the field is best known for - a hazard to ships. For what it's worth, it's also the main pic for the SW.com Databank entry...I stole it. :P And, at any rate, a picture of just the belt itself does not exist. I did some extensive searching thru ESB. You're going to have a pic with a ship in it, and you might as well have it displayed prominently for effect.Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:48, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I added a few new sources to the article. All the images were sourced. Not to sound too much like an English teacher, but watch the passive sentences. For example, instead of using a sentence like "Hoth was pummeled by asteroids," try "asteroids pummeled the surface of Hoth." —Xwing328 (Talk) 18:09, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for additions, X-wing. And, coincidentally, I am an English major, and I know better...not that that's saying much for my passive voice right now! Blah! :P Will make the appropriate changes. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:41, 2 February 2008 (UTC)