Wookieepedia:Inquisitorius/Log/2010 February 27

[01:27]	 Someone needs to put the official "this meeting has started" disclaimer up [01:27]	 http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/501st_Legion_%28second_review%29 [01:27]	 I have one issue with 501st. [01:27]	 Share [01:27]	 I may be wrong about this. [01:27]	 In the non-canon TFU stuff, are you sure 501st and Evil Starkiller are on the same side during the battle? [01:28]	 Almost positive [01:28]	 They are, IIRC [01:28]	 I'm sure I could confirm it given some time [01:28]	 I was looking through the level for wampa stuff, and I thought I understood it to mean that he evade them [01:28]	 If I'm wrong, very well [01:28]	 I'll look into it later [01:28]	 I also had a small issue [01:29]	 TCW apparently retconned the date of formation to the first year of the war, as the 501st clearly exists during the TCW film, novel, and other stuff. [01:29]	 But the infobox and History don't completely clarify this [01:29]	 I can change that later [01:29]	<ChackJadson> I vote keep, as does Cav [01:30]	<Culator|Away> NOW! YOU WILL CHANGE IT NOW! [01:30]	<Fiolli> I agree with Culator. [01:30]	<Culator|Away> XD [01:30]	<Fiolli> ;) [01:30]	<Doob_McJeffries> Keep, since it's all small crap [01:30]	<Doob_McJeffries> But please do fix [01:30]	 keppers [01:30]	<Tommy9281> NOW [01:30]	 keepers* [01:30]	<CC7567> Per Doob, keep [01:30]	<ChackJadson> Sorry for voting on m own nom, btw [01:30]	<ChackJadson> *my [01:30]	<Cylka>	Keep. [01:30]	<ChackJadson> 'tis kept [01:30]	<Tommy9281> Keep, and there's nothing with voting on your own noms. [01:31]	<Fiolli> Keep. [01:31]	<ChackJadson> Beru: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Beru_Whitesun_Lars&diff=2957564&oldid=2791291 [01:31]	<Doob_McJeffries> Part of the reason we probed Beru was because the P/T is pathetically small [01:31]	<Doob_McJeffries> Nothing has been changed on that front [01:31]	<Doob_McJeffries> So kill [01:31]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Beru_Whitesun_Lars [01:31]	<ChackJadson> Mauser says he updated it [01:32]	<Doob_McJeffries> He didn't touch the P/T [01:32]	<ChackJadson> Cav says keep, for the record [01:32]	<Cylka>	Did we say that the P/T needed expansion? [01:32]	<Doob_McJeffries> We did at the meeting [01:32]	<Doob_McJeffries> I'm too lazy to check the review page. [01:32]	<CC7567> Not on the review page [01:32]	<ChackJadson> Not on there [01:32]	<Culator|Away> Nobody put it on the review page. :| [01:32]	<ChackJadson> ugh [01:32]	<Doob_McJeffries> Goddamnit [01:32]	<Tommy9281> But that's not fair to those who do check the review page. [01:32]	<ChackJadson> I knpow [01:32]	 I don't remember anything about the P/T [01:32]	<ChackJadson> Extend probe? [01:32]	 extend probe? [01:32]	<Doob_McJeffries> Extend probe. -_- [01:33]	<Culator|Away> Yeah. [01:33]	<CC7567> Extend. :P [01:33]	<Cylka>	I say extend probe. [01:33]	<Doob_McJeffries> We /did/ discuss this at the meeting [01:33]	<Tommy9281> Of an old hag? Sure. [01:33]	<Doob_McJeffries> I remember distinctly [01:33]	<Fiolli> Extend. [01:33]	<ChackJadson> Extend [01:33]	<Tommy9281> Extenze [01:33]	<ChackJadson> Extended [01:33]	<Fiolli> I agree with Doob, but we should extend because of our clerical error. :( [01:33]	<ChackJadson> Bane [01:33]	<Cylka>	Per Fiolli. [01:33]	<Fiolli> Kill Bane. ;) [01:33]	<Fiolli> Kidding... [01:33]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Darth_Bane&diff=2976090&oldid=2879715 [01:33]	<Fiolli> Keep. [01:34]	<Tommy9281> He's good to go [01:34]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Darth_Bane_%28second_review%29 [01:34]	<ChackJadson> I updated it and did an overhaul [01:34]	<ChackJadson> I say keep [01:34]	<Cylka>	Keep. [01:34]	<ChackJadson> So does Cav [01:34]	<Doob_McJeffries> Looks good [01:34]	<Doob_McJeffries> Keep [01:34]	<CC7567> I'd say as long as the one-sentence paragraphs are fixed outside of the review, keep. [01:34]	<ChackJadson> Kept [01:34]	<ChackJadson> Jhoram Bey [01:35]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jhoram_Bey&diff=2926290&oldid=2879723 [01:35]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Jhoram_Bey [01:35]	<ChackJadson> Probe [01:35]	<ChackJadson> Update needed [01:35]	<Doob_McJeffries> heh [01:35]	<Fiolli> Kill. [01:35]	<Doob_McJeffries> I like the empty Bio subsection [01:35]	<CC7567> Kill. [01:35]	<Doob_McJeffries> Kill and never let it live again [01:35]	<Fiolli> Per Doob. [01:35]	<Cylka>	Kill [01:35]	<ChackJadson> PROBE [01:35]	<Tommy9281> lol [01:35]	<ChackJadson> OOPS [01:35]	<Tommy9281> kill [01:35]	<ChackJadson> KILL, sorry guys [01:36]	<CC7567> XD [01:36]	<ChackJadson> Ok, it's dead [01:36]	<Fiolli> XD [01:36]	<Culator|Away> Empty section? What kind of monster would do such a thing? [01:36]	<Culator|Away> KILL IT NOW! [01:36]	<ChackJadson> Boushh [01:36]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Boushh&diff=2918006&oldid=2879729 [01:36]	<Fiolli> Kill. [01:36]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Boushh [01:36]	<Tommy9281> We should keep it just for that lol [01:36]	<ChackJadson> Kill [01:36]	<Tommy9281> Kill Boushh [01:36]	<CC7567> Kill. [01:36]	<Doob_McJeffries> KILL [01:36]	<Cylka>	Kill [01:36]	<Fiolli> Boushh was completely untouched. [01:36]	<ChackJadson> Dead [01:36]	<Tommy9281> Like the Veronicas? [01:36]	<ChackJadson> jarael [01:36]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jarael&diff=2976237&oldid=2879734 [01:37]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Jarael_%28second_review%29 [01:37]	<ChackJadson> wip [01:37]	<Cylka>	Extend at leaat. [01:37]	<CC7567> For the record, Cav says extend, and GT agrees [01:37]	<ChackJadson> Extend, yeah [01:37]	<Cylka>	red has been working on her. [01:37]	<Cylka>	Red [01:37]	<Tommy9281> Extend probe [01:37]	<Doob_McJeffries> I do have a problem with Jarael besides everything been mentioned. [01:37]	<ChackJadson> Share [01:37]	<Doob_McJeffries> This 10-age Relationships section is kind of ridiculous. [01:37]	<Doob_McJeffries> Especially since we don't stipulate the use of one in the LG. [01:38]	<CC7567> Eh. [01:38]	<Doob_McJeffries> At the /very/ least, subsection it into the P/T to keep with guidelines [01:38]	<ChackJadson> She got around :P [01:38]	<Tommy9281> There's also a blank subsection [01:38]	<Doob_McJeffries> 10-page* [01:38]	<Fiolli> This article is a thorn in our side. But, seeing as progress is slowly being made, I'm okay with extending it. I'm not afraid to kill, though. [01:38]	<ChackJadson> It's a wipt, though, Tommy [01:38]	<ChackJadson> *wip [01:38]	<Tommy9281> wip? [01:38]	 extend + add Tope's concerns [01:38]	<ChackJadson> work in progress [01:38]	<Culator|Away> Yes, extend. The series is over, the article can actually be *finished*. [01:38]	<Tommy9281> Oh, okay [01:38]	<CC7567> Extend with Tope's concerns [01:38]	<ChackJadson> Yes, if it's not done next time, kill\ [01:38]	<Tommy9281> Extend, because its a wip and as long as the concerns are added to the list [01:38]	<Fiolli> You mean it is finally over? Really? We are free? Really free? ;) [01:39]	<Cylka>	per Tope. [01:39]	<ChackJadson> yep [01:39]	<CC7567> It would benefit from another review, with the overhaul it's gone through. [01:39]	<ChackJadson> Probe extended [01:39]	<ChackJadson> On to Ossus [01:39]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Ossus&diff=2970630&oldid=2879740 [01:39]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Ossus_%28second_review%29 [01:39]	<Tommy9281> I checked the Atlas and everything seems to be there. [01:39]	<ChackJadson> Seems to be better [01:39]	<Doob_McJeffries> Might I suggest the intro kind of sucks? [01:39]	<Tommy9281> Though I don't know who did it. [01:39]	<ChackJadson> True, Doob [01:39]	<Tommy9281> That wasn't one of the original concerns, though [01:39]	<Doob_McJeffries> Judging by its relation to the rest of the article, it could be a lot longer [01:40]	<ChackJadson> Vote, people [01:40]	<Doob_McJeffries> So extend probe and fix it :P [01:40]	<ChackJadson> I say keep [01:40]	<CC7567> Extend with concern of expanding intro [01:40]	<Tommy9281> I say keep [01:40]	<Doob_McJeffries> Even if we vote keep, you should still fix it [01:40]	<Fiolli> I don't see what was added. [01:40]	<Cylka>	Extend? [01:40]	<Tommy9281> I'll get to it sooner or later, but it should be kept. [01:40]	<Doob_McJeffries> Meh [01:40]	<Tommy9281> The Atlas stuff is there [01:41]	<CC7567> Whether or not it's extended, the See also needs to be checked if it's needed [01:41]	<Doob_McJeffries> I would just as soon nominate it for review next meeting [01:41]	<Tommy9281> I'll get to it before then. [01:41]	<ChackJadson> I change my vote to extend [01:41]	<Fiolli> extend [01:41]	<Doob_McJeffries> per CC on the See also [01:41]	 extend it [01:41]	<Doob_McJeffries> If those things are linked in the article, the See Also needs to go [01:41]	<Tommy9281> I don't think the See Also is necessary. [01:42]	<ChackJadson> Cylaka, did you vote probe? [01:42]	<ChackJadson> *Cylka [01:42]	<Fiolli> The See also section could be put into templates in each subsection. [01:42]	<Tommy9281> It can just as soon be removed [01:42]	<Cylka>	Extend. [01:42]	<ChackJadson> K [01:42]	<Tommy9281> Per Top about the linking [01:42]	<ChackJadson> Probe has been extended [01:42]	<ChackJadson> Ossus is done [01:42]	<ChackJadson> Panaka [01:42]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Panaka&diff=2941647&oldid=2879746 [01:42]	<Fiolli> Kill with fire. [01:43]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Panaka [01:43]	<Doob_McJeffries> It's actually a pretty minor bit of missing info, as I pointed out last meeting, but it does exist. [01:43]	<Doob_McJeffries> Kill [01:43]	<CC7567> Kill, then. [01:43]	<Fiolli> He's a douchebag, apparently. [01:43]	<Cylka>	Kill, then. [01:43]	<Tommy9281> I agree with FIolli [01:43]	<ChackJadson> Kill [01:43]	<ChackJadson> Dead [01:44]	<ChackJadson> Gar Stazi [01:44]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Gar_Stazi&diff=2971968&oldid=2879748 [01:44]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Gar_Stazi [01:44]	<Doob_McJeffries> Can we just kill this thing already? [01:44]	<ChackJadson> Fact in succession box still :| [01:44]	<ChackJadson> I vote kill [01:44]	<Doob_McJeffries> This thing needs an update every time we have a meeting [01:44]	 kill [01:44]	<Doob_McJeffries> And it doesn't help that no one looks over the changes made [01:44]	 it needs to be redone at the end of Legacy [01:44]	<Tommy9281> For the same reasons as Wyyrlok [01:44]	<Doob_McJeffries> per Tommy [01:44]	<Tommy9281> kill [01:44]	<Fiolli> Kill. [01:44]	<Doob_McJeffries> Kill [01:44]	<Cylka>	Kill [01:44]	<ChackJadson> Dead [01:45]	<ChackJadson> Nantex [01:45]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Nantex-class_territorial_defense_starfighter&diff=2970352&oldid=2879757 [01:45]	<CC7567> Kill with a Y-wing [01:45]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Nantex-class_territorial_defense_starfighter [01:45]	<Fiolli> Kill. [01:45]	<ChackJadson> Kill [01:45]	<Culator|Away> Kill bugs dead. [01:45]	<Doob_McJeffries> KILL ALL GOODWOOD ARTICLES [01:45]	<Doob_McJeffries> :P [01:45]	<Tommy9281> Like a damp moth [01:45]	<Cylka>	Kill. [01:45]	<ChackJadson> Dead [01:46]	<ChackJadson> Nagai-Tof War [01:46]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Nagai-Tof_War&diff=2959926&oldid=2879765 [01:46]	<Fiolli> Kill. [01:46]	<Tommy9281> Kill [01:46]	<CC7567> Kill. [01:46]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Nagai-Tof_War_%28second_review%29 [01:46]	<ChackJadson> Kill [01:46]	<Culator|Away> No work, no star. [01:46]	<Cylka>	Kill [01:46]	<ChackJadson> Dead [01:46]	<Doob_McJeffries> Good GOD [01:46]	<Doob_McJeffries> Kill it [01:46]	<ChackJadson> Durge [01:46]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Durge&diff=2959982&oldid=2879771 [01:46]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Durge_%28second_review%29 [01:46]	<CC7567> Eh. [01:47]	<ChackJadson> Kill [01:47]	<CC7567> Kill the badass, I suppose. [01:47]	<Fiolli> Kill. [01:47]	<Tommy9281> I never cared for Durge. Kill [01:47]	<Culator|Away> Per what I JUST said. [01:47]	<Cylka>	Kill. [01:47]	<Doob_McJeffries> KILL ALL ARTICLES AND BE DONE WITH IT [01:47]	<Doob_McJeffries> :) [01:47]	<ChackJadson> Dead [01:47]	<Tommy9281> Per Toprawa [01:47]	<ChackJadson> Ravager [01:47]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Ravager&diff=2970176&oldid=2879776 [01:47]	<Tommy9281> Kill [01:47]	<Doob_McJeffries> This thing actually looks decent. [01:47]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Ravager_%28second_review%29 [01:48]	<Doob_McJeffries> It passes the look test, anyway [01:48]	<Cylka>	Well, it was worked on. [01:48]	<Tommy9281> just kidding [01:48]	<Doob_McJeffries> Keep, unless anyone actually read the changes and has a point of contention :P [01:48]	<ChackJadson> Keep [01:48]	<Cylka>	Keep. [01:48]	<Culator|Away>	... [01:48]	<Fiolli> Some tweaks with wording or grammar are needed. [01:48]	<CC7567> Keep as long as that bio paragraph is sourced. [01:48]	<Fiolli> Keep with reservation. [01:48]	<CC7567> And per Fiolli's concern. [01:48]	<Tommy9281> That's piddly though [01:49]	<Culator|Away> It looks like it was actually fixed, or nearly so. [01:49]	<Tommy9281> Keep [01:49]	 keep [01:49]	<Doob_McJeffries> This is why existing FAs shouldn't be totally overhauled [01:49]	<Culator|Away> How often does that actually happen? [01:49]	<Doob_McJeffries> because didn't look at the new version [01:49]	<Doob_McJeffries> we didn't* [01:49]	<CC7567> Culator: not often, I'd say [01:50]	<ChackJadson> Ok, it's kept [01:50]	<ChackJadson> Aing-Tii [01:50]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Aing-Tii&diff=2954400&oldid=2879785 [01:50]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Aing-Tii [01:50]	<ChackJadson> Keep [01:51]	<Doob_McJeffries> Keep [01:51]	<Tommy9281> Keep [01:51]	<Cylka>	Keep. [01:51]	<CC7567> Keep [01:51]	<Fiolli> Keep [01:51]	<Culator|Away> Redundant keep. [01:51]	<ChackJadson> Kept [01:51]	<ChackJadson> Ebon Hawk [01:51]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Ebon_Hawk&diff=2975608&oldid=2879799 [01:51]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Ebon_Hawk_%28third_review%29 [01:51]	<Doob_McJeffries> That intro bothers me too [01:51]	<ChackJadson> It is poor [01:52]	<ChackJadson> eh... [01:52]	<Cylka>	Extend? [01:52]	<CC7567> If it needs three reviews just to fix stuff, it should go through the FAN again. [01:52]	<ChackJadson> I'm tired of extending probe [01:52]	<Fiolli> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:Ebon_Hawk_layout.PNG. . . really? [01:52]	<Fiolli> We let this pass? [01:52]	<ChackJadson> Kill [01:52]	<ChackJadson> For that alone :P [01:53]	<CC7567> Kill and be done with it [01:53]	<Fiolli> Kill [01:53]	<Cylka>	Kill, then [01:53]	<Doob_McJeffries> Kill [01:53]	<Doob_McJeffries> Hooray for evil :P [01:53]	<ChackJadson> Killed [01:53]	<ChackJadson> Wes Janson [01:53]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Wes_Janson&diff=2976265&oldid=2879810 [01:53]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Wes_Janson_%28second_review%29 [01:54]	<Doob_McJeffries> haha, I want to bring up my point from last meeting again [01:54]	<Doob_McJeffries> why the hell is the last sentence of the intro /still/ in there? :P [01:54]	<ChackJadson> What was it? [01:54]	<ChackJadson> Oh [01:54]	<Doob_McJeffries> I added that as a noob like three years ago :P [01:54]	<ChackJadson> hahahaha [01:54]	<Doob_McJeffries> I think I actually copied it verbatim from the Rogue Squadron N64 game :P [01:54]	<ChackJadson> Nonetheless, keep [01:54]	<CC7567> I'd say keep, unless there are concerns that I'm not seeing [01:55]	<Fiolli> Keep [01:55]	<Doob_McJeffries> If you want to keep, fine [01:55]	<Doob_McJeffries> but I'm removing that sentence [01:55]	<Tommy9281> Leave it. [01:55]	<ChackJadson> Cool [01:55]	<Doob_McJeffries> No [01:55]	<Fiolli> Copyright vio. [01:55]	<ChackJadson> Remove it [01:55]	<Cylka>	Keep. [01:55]	<Doob_McJeffries> It's essentially copyright vio [01:55]	<Culator|Away> Official meh. [01:55]	<Tommy9281> Okay [01:55]	<ChackJadson> Ok, Janson lives [01:55]	<ChackJadson> GH-7 droid [01:55]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=GH-7_medical_analysis_unit&diff=2941368&oldid=2879816 [01:56]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/GH-7_medical_analysis_unit_%28third_review%29 [01:56]	<ChackJadson> Kill [01:56]	<CC7567> KILL [01:56]	<Tommy9281> kill [01:56]	<Cylka>	Kill. [01:56]	<Fiolli> Kill [01:56]	<Doob_McJeffries> KILL BILL [01:56]	<ChackJadson> Dead [01:56]	<ChackJadson> Tholme [01:56]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Tholme&diff=2944063&oldid=2879823 [01:56]	<Fiolli> Kill [01:56]	<CC7567> Kill [01:56]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Tholme_%28second_review%29 [01:56]	<ChackJadson> Kill [01:56]	<Tommy9281> kill [01:56]	<Cylka>	Kill [01:56]	<ChackJadson> Dead [01:56]	<ChackJadson> Moving on to new articles now [01:56]	<Doob_McJeffries> Kill [01:57]	<ChackJadson> Hang on [01:57]	<ChackJadson> Ok, sorry about that [01:58]	<ChackJadson> Onto the new ones [01:58]	<ChackJadson> Carth Onasi [01:58]	<Fiolli> Probe [01:58]	<CC7567> Can we just group all the update ones together? [01:58]	<ChackJadson> Needed update, but apparently no longer [01:58]	<Tommy9281> Per CC [01:58]	<ChackJadson> CC: yes [01:58]	<CC7567> Epic meh on Carth's intro, though [01:58]	<Fiolli> Probe all that were not touched... [01:58]	<ChackJadson> Ok, so let's do this all at once [01:59]	<ChackJadson> Probe all those that were not updated [01:59]	<CC7567> Yes. [01:59]	<CC7567> Or are in need of updating. [01:59]	<Tommy9281> Same thing [01:59]	<ChackJadson> Everything but Cassus, Carth, Ma'kiss..., Sora and Flint [01:59]	<Cylka>	Yes. [01:59]	<CC7567> Yes. [01:59]	<Doob_McJeffries> Probe [01:59]	<ChackJadson> I'll give you guys time to look at these [01:59]	<ChackJadson> Probe Carth, Tope? [01:59]	<Doob_McJeffries> Yes [01:59]	<Doob_McJeffries> It has a bit in the succ box that needs sourcing [02:00]	<Doob_McJeffries> I can place a Fact tag [02:00]	<ChackJadson> Cav says keep [02:00]	<CC7567> And the Sources need to be properly organized [02:00]	<Doob_McJeffries> unless it's an easy fix for one of you [02:00]	<Cylka>	I can do it. [02:00]	<ChackJadson> Cool [02:00]	<CC7567> Most of it's easy fix stuff [02:00]	<ChackJadson> Nayayen didn't fix everything [02:00]	<ChackJadson> But it's minor [02:00]	<Doob_McJeffries> Fine with me, Fact tag placed [02:00]	<CC7567> As long as someone gets it, I change to spare. [02:00]	<Cylka>	So sources and fact tag? [02:00]	<ChackJadson> Infobox [02:00]	<Cylka>	Anything else? [02:01]	<CC7567> And intro if possible [02:01]	<Fiolli> Probe. [02:01]	<Cylka>	I suck at intros. [02:01]	<Doob_McJeffries> ah yes, intro [02:01]	<Doob_McJeffries> and infobox [02:01]	<ChackJadson> Get someone else [02:01]	<Doob_McJeffries> Change to probe. [02:01]	<ChackJadson> 's help, Cylka :P [02:01]	<CC7567> Eh [02:01]	<CC7567> Probe then [02:01]	<ChackJadson> Probe Carth, actually [02:01]	<Cylka>	Ok probe. [02:01]	<ChackJadson> Cylka, you can still fix if you want, but no need if you don't feel like it [02:02]	<Cylka>	I'll fix the easy stuff, I'm just really bad at intros. :-P [02:02]	<ChackJadson> Ok, anyone else commenting on any of the other kept noms? [02:02]	<Doob_McJeffries> what did we keep? [02:02]	<Doob_McJeffries> Please remind me [02:02]	<ChackJadson> Cassus, Ma'kiss..., Sora, Flint [02:02]	<Tommy9281> Flint, Sora, the Nikto [02:02]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Meeting_Thirty-one#New_articles_in_need_of_examination [02:02]	<Doob_McJeffries> It's really easier if we just go through these one by one [02:03]	<Doob_McJeffries> Then we have an opportunity to examine them individually [02:03]	<ChackJadson> 9_9 [02:03]	<ChackJadson> All right [02:03]	<Tommy9281> I think we just did fine. [02:03]	<ChackJadson> Cassu Fett then [02:03]	<ChackJadson> Just make up your minds, people [02:03]	<Tommy9281> Our minds were made up seconds ago [02:03]	<ChackJadson> Cassus Fett [02:03]	<Cylka>	I thought we just voted on the ones that weren't touched. [02:03]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cassus_Fett [02:03]	<Doob_McJeffries> If it's a basic update, then just probe [02:03]	<Tommy9281> Per Cylka [02:03]	<Doob_McJeffries> we can probe those as a group [02:04]	<Doob_McJeffries> I don't know the issues are with everything we just zoomed through [02:04]	<Doob_McJeffries> that's my issue [02:04]	<ChackJadson> I THOUGHT YOU WANTED TO DO THE KEPT ONES INDIVIDUALLY [02:04]	<Doob_McJeffries> what the issues* [02:04]	<CC7567> We were only discussing the ones that need updates [02:04]	<ChackJadson> That's what we are one now, Tope [02:04]	<ChackJadson> One to keep [02:04]	<ChackJadson> Cassus Fett [02:04]	<ChackJadson> I say keep [02:05]	<ChackJadson> Tope, you wanted to do them individually [02:05]	<Doob_McJeffries> "Armor and equipment" needs revising, I think [02:05]	<Doob_McJeffries> I forget what the LG says [02:05]	<Doob_McJeffries> just "Equipment" or something [02:05]	<Doob_McJeffries> easy enough to fix, though [02:05]	<CC7567> Can anyone vouch for if the second half of the Bio can be expanded at all? [02:05]	<ChackJadson> Fiolli, Tommy, Cylka? [02:06]	<Fiolli> Probe. [02:06]	<Cylka>	Not sure. i say probe. [02:06]	<Doob_McJeffries> Probe [02:06]	<CC7567> Probe. [02:07]	<ChackJadson> Ok, probed then [02:07]	<Tommy9281> Probe [02:07]	<ChackJadson> This dude: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ma%27kis%27shaalas [02:08]	<ChackJadson> CC says he updated it [02:08]	<Doob_McJeffries> Keep, then [02:08]	<CC7567> No info besides a screwy and iffy TCW appearance [02:08]	<CC7567> Keep [02:08]	<Cylka>	keep [02:08]	<ChackJadson> Keep [02:08]	<Doob_McJeffries> Just ignore TCW :P [02:08]	<Doob_McJeffries> That's the best option :P [02:08]	<ChackJadson> I wish [02:08]	<CC7567> 9_9 [02:09]	<Culator|Away> Yes. Make it an Inq policy. [02:09]	<ChackJadson> Ok the Nikto is kept [02:09]	<ChackJadson> Sora Bulq http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sora_Bulq [02:09]	<ChackJadson> CC says he got it [02:09]	<CC7567> Same issue, keep [02:09]	<ChackJadson> Keep [02:09]	<Cylka>	keep [02:10]	<Tommy9281> keep [02:10]	|<--	Fiolli has left freenode (Disconnected by services) [02:10]	<Doob_McJeffries> Kep [02:10]	<ChackJadson> Kept [02:10]	-->|	Fiolli (~Fiolli@wikia/Jedimasterfiolli) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [02:10]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-inquisitorius +o Fiolli by Nuku-Nuku [02:10]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-inquisitorius +o Fiolli by chanserv [02:10]	<Fiolli> Bah. [02:10]	<ChackJadson> Flint [02:10]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Flint [02:10]	<ChackJadson> Tommy says he fixed it [02:11]	<Doob_McJeffries> Marvel character. [02:11]	<Doob_McJeffries> Keep by default. [02:11]	<CC7567> Keep. [02:11]	<Tommy9281> I did fix it. [02:11]	<Cylka>	Keep [02:11]	<ChackJadson> Keep [02:11]	<Fiolli> Keep. [02:11]	<ChackJadson> Ok, he is kept [02:11]	<ChackJadson> Now, taking it nice and slow... [02:12]	<Doob_McJeffries> XD [02:12]	<ChackJadson> Does anyone mind if we vote on the next articles (all needing an update) as one? [02:12]	<Fiolli> Heh. [02:12]	<ChackJadson> Yes, that was directed at you, Tope [02:12]	<Doob_McJeffries> that actually made crack up laughing :P XD [02:12]	<Doob_McJeffries> me* [02:12]	<CC7567> Chack: that's fine with me [02:13]	<Doob_McJeffries> Do it [02:13]	<ChackJadson> Ok, good [02:13]	<ChackJadson> I vote probe for all of them [02:13]	<CC7567> Probe all that require updating [02:13]	<Fiolli> I'm fine with it although, we should feel free to liberally add concerns after the meeting. [02:13]	<Fiolli> Probe all. [02:13]	<Cylka>	per Fiolli [02:13]	<Tommy9281> Per Fiolli [02:13]	<Doob_McJeffries> Probe, and per FIolli [02:14]	<ChackJadson> Ok, they are all probed [02:14]	<ChackJadson> Anyone have any more articles to add? [02:14]	<Doob_McJeffries> Yes [02:14]	<Cylka>	Yes, please give me your concerns. [02:14]	<CC7567> Wait [02:14]	<CC7567> As an addendum to Carth, make sure that his last name is used throughout the article (just add that to the list of concerns) [02:14]	<ChackJadson> Noted [02:14]	<Doob_McJeffries> Yes [02:15]	<Doob_McJeffries> Ok, I have another article. [02:15]	<Doob_McJeffries> Darth Maladi [02:15]	<Fiolli> Yes. Probe. [02:15]	<Doob_McJeffries> for the reasons we probed Wyyrlok and Gar Stazi [02:15]	<Doob_McJeffries> It needs an update every week [02:15]	<Tommy9281> I think that Maladi will fair better than those two [02:15]	<Tommy9281> Every month* [02:15]	<ChackJadson> Tommy, are you willing to adopt it and update it every issue? [02:15]	<Tommy9281> Yup [02:15]	<Doob_McJeffries> Sarcasm doesn't translate well over the Internets [02:16]	<Tommy9281> NOt being sarcastic [02:16]	<Doob_McJeffries> I was. :P [02:16]	<Tommy9281> oh, lol [02:16]	<Doob_McJeffries> Regardless, still probe [02:16]	<Tommy9281> I put a tag on her today so I can take care of the updates. [02:16]	<ChackJadson> I say keep [02:17]	<Tommy9281> Which I've been known to do. [02:17]	<Tommy9281> Update, that is. [02:17]	<Doob_McJeffries> meh [02:17]	<Doob_McJeffries> it's no different than the other articles that we probed for the same reasons [02:17]	<ChackJadson> Well, vote people [02:17]	<Doob_McJeffries> I maintain probe [02:17]	<Tommy9281> I say keep [02:18]	<CC7567> Even if someone's working on it, probe by default. [02:18]	<Fiolli> Yes. Probe. [02:18]	<Tommy9281> Though I won't be tight if I'm outnumbered. [02:18]	<Cylka>	aprobing isn't that big of an issue. [02:18]	<Cylka>	And then when Tommy updates, it will be a keep. [02:18]	<ChackJadson> You vote probe now then? [02:18]	<Cylka>	yes [02:18]	<ChackJadson> Fiolli, Culator, grunny? [02:19]	<Tommy9281> Fiolli voted already [02:19]	 probe [02:19]	<ChackJadson> My bad, Fiolli did vote [02:19]	<ChackJadson> Ok, probed [02:19]	<ChackJadson> Any other articles now? [02:19]	<CC7567> Lok Durd [02:19]	<ChackJadson> What about him? [02:19]	<Doob_McJeffries> What did he do? [02:20]	<CC7567> Current need for updating, but will appear in the next TCW novel as well [02:20]	<ChackJadson> That's why we voted probe :P [02:20]	<Tommy9281> Took a role in TCW, that's a crime in itself ;) [02:20]	<Doob_McJeffries> Probe [02:20]	<CC7567> Probe for clarification [02:20]	<Cylka>	Probe. [02:20]	<Fiolli> Probe [02:20]	<ChackJadson> It was already probed... [02:21]	<Doob_McJeffries> oh [02:21]	<CC7567> Too bad :P [02:21]	<ChackJadson> Probe twice for TCW! [02:21]	<Fiolli> Kill, then. [02:21]	<Tommy9281> Per Fiolli [02:21]	<CC7567> Fiolli: as in probed at this meeting [02:21]	<Fiolli> Kill, anyway [02:21]	<ChackJadson> lol [02:21]	<Doob_McJeffries> Just let it stick with probe. [02:21]	<Doob_McJeffries> I think we should stay with procedure in this case [02:21]	<CC7567> Per Tope [02:21]	<Fiolli> It will save us the time next meeting. [02:22]	<Tommy9281> Per Fiolli [02:22]	<ChackJadson> We're not killing it now [02:22]	<Doob_McJeffries> half a minute? :P [02:22]	<ChackJadson> We follow policy [02:22]	<Tommy9281> lol since when? [02:22]	<Doob_McJeffries> Since always/ [02:22]	<ChackJadson> Now [02:22]	<ChackJadson> Yes, per Tope [02:22]	<Tommy9281> Good answer 9_9 [02:22]	<Doob_McJeffries> We don't just kill existing FAs. [02:22]	* Fiolli is kidding. [02:22]	<Doob_McJeffries> They need to go through a probationary period [02:22]	<ChackJadson> Ok :P [02:22]	<Tommy9281> lol [02:22]	<ChackJadson> ow can we move on to discussion? [02:22]	<Tommy9281> Sarcasm doesn't translate well over the Internets ;) [02:23]	<Doob_McJeffries> no, using the 9_9 as sarcasm doesn't, correct [02:23]	<ChackJadson> Moving on, then, to CC's items [02:23]	<ChackJadson> FA page reorganization—as several minor reorganization methods that the ACs implemented on the GA page seem to be working fine since they were applied, we might as well use them on the FA page as well. The first is reorganizing all non-canonically named characters in a "Conjecture" section (instead of their current placements), most notably the "Unidentified" characters. The second is... [02:23]	<ChackJadson> ...whether or not to display the disambiguation stuff in parentheses on all of the articles that have it (i.e. changing Battle of Coruscant (Clone Wars) to Battle of Coruscant), as they are very helpful in better distinguishing articles from one another. For examples of both, just look at the GA page. CC7567 (talk)07:15, February 12, 2010 (UTC) [02:23]	<CC7567> Wait, did we discuss Grievous and the ones that need Fact sourcing? [02:23]	<CC7567> I was under the impression that we only probed articles in need of updating [02:24]	<ChackJadson> Grievous needed an update [02:24]	<CC7567> Or am I wrong? [02:24]	<ChackJadson> Shoot [02:24]	=-=	Fiolli has changed the topic to “http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Meeting_Thirty-one - This meeting sponsored by "Chrono" and Incom. - Now onto other orders of business...” [02:24]	* Doob_McJeffries shrugs [02:24]	<ChackJadson> I skipped Kalenda [02:24]	<Doob_McJeffries> Chack is running the meeting [02:24]	<Doob_McJeffries> ask him :P [02:24]	<ChackJadson> My bad... [02:24]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Belindi_Kalenda [02:24]	<ChackJadson> Has a fact [02:25]	<Fiolli> Kill/probe/whatever [02:25]	<Doob_McJeffries> Probe [02:25]	<Tommy9281> Per Fiolli [02:25]	<CC7567> Probe [02:25]	<ChackJadson> Minor, but probe [02:25]	<Culator|Away> Probe her and her damn dartmakers. [02:25]	<Cylka>	probe. [02:25]	* Culator|Away always loved that part. [02:26]	<ChackJadson> Probed [02:26]	<ChackJadson> I can't read, apparently Omas needs to be looked at too [02:26]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cal_Omas [02:26]	<ChackJadson> fac tag [02:26]	<CC7567> Full succession box sourcing, so probe [02:26]	<ChackJadson> *fact [02:26]	<ChackJadson> Probe, yeah [02:26]	<Doob_McJeffries> the Fact tags are in the succ boxes [02:26]	<Cylka>	Probe. [02:26]	<Doob_McJeffries> for the record, this is why succ boxes succ [02:26]	<Doob_McJeffries> probe [02:27]	<Fiolli> That is one butt-ugly succ box. [02:27]	<ChackJadson> Indeed [02:27]	<Doob_McJeffries> haha [02:27]	<Doob_McJeffries> Well, it /is/ Ataru's article [02:27]	<ChackJadson> Probe then, Fiolli? :P [02:27]	<Doob_McJeffries> no, 4dot [02:27]	<Doob_McJeffries> that's your answer :P [02:28]	<Fiolli> Probe with... fire? [02:28]	<ChackJadson> Sure [02:28]	<Culator|Away> Ow. [02:28]	<ChackJadson> Probed it is [02:28]	<ChackJadson> Onara Kuat [02:28]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Onara_Kuat [02:28]	<ChackJadson> Same issue [02:28]	<Fiolli> Probe with... whatever. [02:28]	<Doob_McJeffries> another 4dot article :) [02:28]	<CC7567> Probe [02:28]	<Doob_McJeffries> Probe [02:28]	<Cylka>	Probe [02:28]	<ChackJadson> Probe [02:29]	<ChackJadson> She's probed [02:29]	<ChackJadson> Harbinger, needs Commanders and crew [02:29]	<ChackJadson> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Harbinger [02:29]	<CC7567> Probe [02:29]	<ChackJadson> Probe [02:29]	<Cylka>	probe [02:29]	<Doob_McJeffries> If it needs a commanders and crew section, then probe [02:30]	<Doob_McJeffries> I don't know the material and don't care to look [02:30]	<Cylka>	:-( [02:30]	<ChackJadson> Someone else vote [02:30]	<ChackJadson> Fiolli, grunny, Culator, Tommy [02:30]	<Tommy9281> Probe [02:30]	<ChackJadson> Cool [02:30]	<ChackJadson> Probed [02:30]	<ChackJadson> CC, did you want to discuss Grievous too? [02:31]	<CC7567> Yes, please [02:31]	<ChackJadson> Ok [02:31]	<CC7567> Basically that there's too much TCW crap and that it overall needs an expansion [02:31]	<CC7567> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Grievous [02:31]	<Tommy9281> For the same reasons as Wyyrlok and Stazi [02:32]	<ChackJadson> Probe [02:32]	<Cylka>	Probe. [02:32]	<CC7567> Probe for tradition's sake [02:32]	<Fiolli> Probe with fire from Obi-Wan's blaster. [02:32]	<ChackJadson> Probed is the cyborg [02:33]	<ChackJadson> /Now/ can we move on to discussion items? [02:33]	<CC7567> Sure. :P [02:33]	=-=	Fiolli has changed the topic to “http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Meeting_Thirty-one - This meeting sponsored by "Chrono" and Incom. - Now onto other orders of business... for real...” [02:33]	<ChackJadson> Ok [02:33]	<Tommy9281> Sheesh [02:33]	<ChackJadson> FA page reorganization—as several minor reorganization methods that the ACs implemented on the GA page seem to be working fine since they were applied, we might as well use them on the FA page as well. The first is reorganizing all non-canonically named characters in a "Conjecture" section (instead of their current placements), most notably the "Unidentified" characters. The second is... [02:33]	<Culator|Away> <Colombo>Just one more thing.</Colombo> [02:33]	<ChackJadson> ...whether or not to display the disambiguation stuff in parentheses on all of the articles that have it (i.e. changing Battle of Coruscant (Clone Wars) to Battle of Coruscant), as they are very helpful in better distinguishing articles from one another. For examples of both, just look at the GA page. CC7567 (talk)07:15, February 12, 2010 (UTC) [02:33]	<Culator|Away> (No, not really.) [02:33]	<ChackJadson> Good [02:33]	<Doob_McJeffries> as an AC member who has seen this in action, support both [02:33]	<ChackJadson> I would have kicked you, Culator :P [02:34]	<ChackJadson> CC, would you care to explain this further for us non-ACs? [02:34]	<Tommy9281> Explain this reorganization thing in more detail please? [02:34]	<CC7567> Just see the GA page [02:34]	<CC7567> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:GA [02:34]	<ChackJadson> Characters [02:34]	<CC7567> Where all of the battles have the "(Clone Wars)" and other stuff that helps to vary between the articles [02:35]	<Tommy9281> I guess it wouldn't hurt [02:35]	<Fiolli> I agree with the first one; not so sure about the second. [02:35]	<ChackJadson> We decided to 1, use a conjecture section, and 2, show the (stuff) in parentheses [02:35]	<ChackJadson> ie, Bob (noob) vs Bob [02:35]	<Tommy9281> I agree with Fiolli, again [02:35]	<ChackJadson> We chose the first [02:35]	<Fiolli> Oh... show it? I'm for that. [02:35]	<Fiolli> I thought it was to hide it. [02:35]	<ChackJadson> No, show, right CC? [02:35]	<CC7567> No, it's to show it [02:35]	<ChackJadson> Cool [02:36]	<Fiolli> If we are showing the disambig stuff, then I'm cool with it. [02:36]	<Tommy9281> There's no harm in that [02:36]	<ChackJadson> Anyone object? [02:36]	<Tommy9281> No [02:36]	<CC7567> Support [02:36]	<Cylka>	Looks good. [02:36]	<ChackJadson> Ok, CC's second proposal [02:36]	<Fiolli> Support. [02:36]	<ChackJadson> Snowball vote—another idea inspired by something implemented by the ACs that has also been working fine. In the (currently unlikely—with the FAN's state of wavering inactivity—but nevertheless possible) scenario that a nomination receives a set amount of Inq support votes (say perhaps eight, although the number is flexible and open to discussion) before the one-week requirement, it can be... [02:36]	<ChackJadson> ...deemed clean and removed and archived after at least one day on the FAN. This is intended to clear articles with guaranteed quality off the nomination page and leave less cluttering around. CC7567 (talk)06:40, February 15, 2010 (UTC) [02:37]	<Doob_McJeffries> I like it, because it wouldn't even be used that often [02:37]	<CC7567> Basically what it says. [02:37]	<ChackJadson> Per Tope [02:37]	<Doob_McJeffries> When it does ever happen, it's worth it [02:37]	<Tommy9281> I guess that makes sense [02:37]	<Culator|Away> It would be good to have the option if it ever did happen, which it never does. :| [02:37]	<Fiolli> I don't like it because an article that should somehow receive six Inqvotes seems redundant as an Inq is better to spend his/her time elsewhere. [02:37]	<Doob_McJeffries> I support [02:37]	<Fiolli> But, I like having an out. [02:37]	<CC7567> Support. [02:38]	 support [02:38]	<ChackJadson> Support [02:38]	<Fiolli> I still say no, but I'm not going to stand in the way. [02:38]	<Cylka>	But how many votes for the snowball vote? [02:38]	<CC7567> Eight, unless anyone objects [02:38]	<ChackJadson> I'd prefer 7, but 8 works [02:38]	<Tommy9281> Eight Inqvotes? [02:38]	<Fiolli> Well, 8 keeps it out of reach from people tacking votes on. [02:38]	<Tommy9281> That's interesting. I'm down [02:38]	<Fiolli> Ok. I'll go with it. [02:38]	<Culator|Away> Never happen, ever. [02:39]	<Tommy9281> It'll be interesting to see this in action. [02:39]	<Cylka>	I can go with eight. [02:39]	<ChackJadson> Ok, so 8 Inqvotes and we can clear the article immediately. [02:39]	<Doob_McJeffries> eh [02:39]	<Doob_McJeffries> I would support 7 [02:39]	<ChackJadson> Well, one day [02:39]	<Doob_McJeffries> Nothing will ever receive 8 Inqvotes [02:39]	<Doob_McJeffries> At least make this option workable [02:39]	<Tommy9281> Sure it will [02:39]	 per Tope [02:39]	<Doob_McJeffries> Nothing...will ever receive 8 votes [02:39]	<Cylka>	Hmm... [02:40]	<Doob_McJeffries> and if it does, it would still pass anyway [02:40]	<ChackJadson> So who's for 7? [02:40]	<Doob_McJeffries> with it being 7 [02:40]	<ChackJadson> Me [02:40]	<Doob_McJeffries> Support 7 [02:40]	 aye [02:40]	<CC7567> Support 7 [02:40]	<Cylka>	Okay, 7 will do. [02:40]	<Tommy9281> Per Cylka [02:40]	<Fiolli> I suppose. [02:40]	<ChackJadson> Also, a minimum of one day on the FAN for this, btw, is that ok? [02:41]	<Tommy9281> 2 days [02:41]	<Doob_McJeffries> I could go with 2 days. [02:41]	<ChackJadson Choose the number you prefer, guys [02:41]	<Tommy9281> 2 days [02:41]	<Cylka>	Yeah 2 days. [02:41]	<Doob_McJeffries> Not really a huge deal either way [02:41]	<ChackJadson> 2 could work [02:41]	<CC7567> 2 days. [02:41]	<Fiolli> 452,467,246.6 [02:41]	<Tommy9281> heh [02:41]	<Culator|Away> 37 minutes. [02:41]	<Fiolli> ;) [02:41]	<ChackJadson> Ok, 2 days, 7 Inqvotes it is [02:41]	<ChackJadson> Fiolli, you have something now? [02:42]	<Fiolli> Yes, I did. [02:42]	* Fiolli types. [02:42]	* ChackJadson waits [02:42]	* Doob_McJeffries scratches [02:42]	* Tommy9281 takes a bathroom break [02:42]	* CC7567 shoots the nearest Inq [02:42]	<CC7567> The insurrection has begun! [02:43]	<CC7567> Guess not, then. :P [02:43]	<Cylka>	Does anyone have individual concerns about the mass probed "to update" articles? [02:44]	<ChackJadson> We'll get to that after Fiolli [02:44]	<Tommy9281> Ugh, back to that? [02:44]	<Doob_McJeffries> Doobie doobie do [02:44]	<Cylka>	Just asking, in case. [02:44]	<Fiolli> I want to talk about using subpages again for incredibly long lists of nominations. I think noms, like what Darth Malak was, and what Calo Nord is, along with HK-47 should be transferred there for multiple reasons. (1) It avoids rampant clutter from the FAN page and allows easier browsing/workspace; (2) It allows the nominator, who is obviously having some difficulty with the nom... [02:44]	<Fiolli> ...to have the page watched and easily tend to it as needed; (3) It ultimately ends up there anyway once it is moved and archived. I would prefer to start it there, but I think it would work for long noms at the discretion of the Inq. [02:44]	<Doob_McJeffries> Fiolli, my clothes are going out of style [02:45]	<CC7567> Eh. [02:45]	<Fiolli> The downside is that we lose edit history, but that seems not to matter on the FAN page, except for recovering it. [02:45]	<Doob_McJeffries> Tell that to Uber :P [02:45]	<Tommy9281> It would let me access the FAN page from my phone again [02:45]	<CC7567> I don't care much either way, but it didn't make much of a difference when we did it on the GAN. [02:45]	<Fiolli> Doob: You are out of style. [02:45]	<Doob_McJeffries> Guilty as charged :P [02:45]	<Tommy9281> heh [02:45]	<Fiolli> :p [02:45]	<ChackJadson> I'd rather not do this, tbh [02:46]	<ChackJadson> But it's minor, I suppose [02:46]	<Tommy9281> How come, CHack? [02:46]	<Doob_McJeffries> I could live without it, per my original concerns with the idea. [02:46]	<Fiolli> I've seen it work both ways, and I personally prefer this. [02:46]	<Fiolli> Which were? [02:46]	<ChackJadson> Just because I like it to be consistent with all the others [02:46]	<Tommy9281> I'm indifferent [02:46]	<ChackJadson> If we did this, we could use one of them as a test [02:46]	<Doob_McJeffries> We tried it on GAN, and if it has any effect, it's that it helps people /not/ look at the noms [02:46]	<Tommy9281> I could see how that would become a problem. [02:47]	<CC7567> We've virtually tested it on the GAN and it didn't make a difference [02:47]	<Fiolli> That's not a problem that could actually get worse with the Inq by doing this, though. ;) [02:47]	<Doob_McJeffries> it does sort of intensify the issue, though [02:47]	<Fiolli> I meant it sarcastically, but ok. [02:48]	<Doob_McJeffries> and like the ACs wiill attest to, we've tried it...and it doesn't really make a difference [02:48]	<ChackJadson> Yeah [02:48]	<Doob_McJeffries> if you guys want to do it, fine [02:48]	<ChackJadson> Well, let's vote on this [02:48]	<Doob_McJeffries> but I could easily not [02:48]	<ChackJadson> I vote against [02:48]	<Cylka>	I'm kind of with Chack that I would rather keep it all together, but I won't press the issue. [02:48]	<CC7567> Oppose. [02:49]	<Doob_McJeffries> Oppose, I guess [02:49]	<Tommy9281> Oppose [02:49]	<Tommy9281> I'm more against than for [02:49]	<Culator|Away> Meh. [02:49]	<Cylka>	I would rather keep as is. [02:49]	<Fiolli> Ok. I rescind. [02:49]	<ChackJadson> Ok [02:49]	<ChackJadson> Anyone have anything else before we get to Cylka's thing? [02:50]	<Fiolli> Go ahead. I had something else, but wrote it down somewhere and can't find it. [02:50]	<Doob_McJeffries> Cylka's thing might be my own thing :P [02:50]	<Doob_McJeffries> I'll let her introduce it [02:50]	<ChackJadson> [20:43] <Cylka> Does anyone have individual concerns about the mass probed "to update" articles? [02:50]	<ChackJadson> That [02:50]	<Doob_McJeffries> oh, no [02:50]	<Doob_McJeffries> I do have another one. [02:50]	<Cylka>	Yeah, that thing. [02:50]	<ChackJadson> Share [02:50]	<ChackJadson> Tope [02:50]	<ChackJadson> Cylka, don't worry, we'll get to you :P [02:51]	<Cylka>	Yeah, yeah... :-P [02:51]	<Doob_McJeffries> ok, I might not explain this very well, because I don't know if I fully understand it myself, but bear with me [02:51]	<Doob_McJeffries> If you look on the Inq page, we apparently have this archaic feature first created with the Inq's inception that basically allows users to create a subpage for their nom that asks Inqs to leave concerns for them to address without the need to formally nominate the article [02:52]	<Doob_McJeffries> someone actually utilized this feature yesterday, and GT ultimately ended up deleting the subpage [02:52]	<Cylka>	Oh, yes, that. [02:52]	<Doob_McJeffries> because the person just ended up nominating his article [02:52]	<Doob_McJeffries> I think this feature is essentially useless [02:52]	<ChackJadson> Oh, this? http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inquisitorius [02:53]	<ChackJadson> Near the bottom? [02:53]	<Cylka>	There was quite a bit of confusi0on and deleting and undeleting. [02:53]	<Doob_McJeffries> yes [02:53]	<Doob_McJeffries> under the Misc section [02:53]	<Cylka>	Basically, a pre-nom review. [02:53]	<ChackJadson> Yeah, having that is dumb [02:53]	<CC7567> The "Other articles for review," or am I looking at the wrong thing? [02:54]	<Cylka>	But we are overwhelmed as it is. [02:54]	<Doob_McJeffries> Honestly, I don't know how this user created this subpage. [02:54]	<Doob_McJeffries> But he must have done it through one of these Inq page things [02:54]	<Tommy9281> We can do away with it per Cylka's reason. [02:54]	<Doob_McJeffries> Agreed [02:55]	<CC7567> Remove [02:55]	<Cylka>	Remove [02:55]	<Tommy9281> Nominators all know how to go about a prenom review if they want one, so that thing isn't very necessary. [02:55]	<ChackJadson> So they cannot start a subpage there before nomming it, right? [02:55]	<Doob_McJeffries> Correct. [02:55]	<ChackJadson> That is solely for Inq stuff, then [02:55]	<ChackJadson Like meetings and all [02:55]	<Cylka>	Yes, that needs to be taken off of the Inq page. [02:55]	<Culator|Away> "Remove" is so lame. I say "kill." [02:56]	<Fiolli> Maybe we should consider rearranging that page? [02:56]	<ChackJadson> What's the other articles for review? [02:56]	<Tommy9281> How so, Fiol? [02:56]	<Fiolli> Make the "miscellanea" into "Meetings and official business" in the least. [02:56]	<ChackJadson> That's just a remnant, IMO [02:56]	<Tommy9281> That's not a bad idea [02:56]	<ChackJadson> Sounds fine with me, Fiolli [02:57]	<Cylka>	Would you do that then, Fiolli? [02:57]	<Doob_McJeffries> fine with me, though the section above it seems to be what the issue is about, FWIW [02:57]	<Doob_McJeffries> now that I look at it closer [02:57]	<Doob_McJeffries> "Request an article review here. Note: We will reply here. " [02:57]	<Doob_McJeffries> This thing [02:57]	<ChackJadson> Yeah, can we remove that? [02:57]	<ChackJadson> It's old [02:57]	<Tommy9281> Sure. I've never used it. [02:57]	<Fiolli> Then, the other sections be "FAs under review" and "FAs to be reviewed" [02:58]	<ChackJadson> "FAs under review," is all that's needed, I think [02:58]	<Tommy9281> or "FAs pending review" [02:58]	<Cylka>	Also this: Other articles for review: Anyone can place an article they wish reviewed here and the Inquisitorius will review and comment on it. [02:58]	<ChackJadson> Wait [02:58]	<Fiolli> Although, I personally support an overhaul, but that would take a touch of time and I would not be ready by even the end of this meeting. [02:58]	<Cylka>	That needs to be removed. [02:58]	<ChackJadson> Aren't we eliminating that, Cylka? [02:58]	<ChackJadson> Ok [02:58]	<Cylka>	It's in two places. [02:58]	<ChackJadson> Yeah, we'll get that [02:58]	<Fiolli> That line should be removed. [02:58]	<Tommy9281> Well we're not in a desperate need to do it now, Fiol, so you'd have some time if you wanted it [02:58]	<ChackJadson> Yeah, no worries [02:59]	<ChackJadson> I can do it if you don't want to [02:59]	<ChackJadson> All right, anyone object? [02:59]	<Doob_McJeffries> I don't even know what we're doing now... [02:59]	<CC7567> Per Doob... :| [02:59]	<ChackJadson> Ok [02:59]	<Tommy9281> just shootin the shit [02:59]	<Tommy9281> chewin the fat [03:00]	<Doob_McJeffries> I proposed to remove "Other articles for review" altogether [03:00]	<Fiolli> Ok. Let me summarize. [03:00]	<ChackJadson> Have you been following the discussion? [03:00]	<Doob_McJeffries> Or at least revamp the purpose of the section [03:00]	<Fiolli> Make the "miscellanea" into "Meetings and official business" in the least. [03:00]	<Fiolli> Then, the other sections be "FAs under review" and "FAs to be reviewed" [03:00]	<Fiolli> That's my suggestion. [03:00]	<CC7567> As long as the Inq page isn't deleted like the FAN was (*cough*), I'm fine with whatever. [03:00]	<ChackJadson> lol [03:00]	<Fiolli> Remove any comment about wanting articles removed. [03:00]	<Doob_McJeffries> and "Other articles..." is removed? [03:00]	<ChackJadson> Yeah [03:00]	<Fiolli> No, it is renamed to match its function. [03:00]	<Doob_McJeffries> What is its function? [03:01]	<ChackJadson> Which is? [03:01]	<Fiolli> To suggest articles that were not up to par in between Inqmoots. [03:01]	<Fiolli> That's what it appears to have been used for. [03:01]	<ChackJadson> Ah [03:01]	<Doob_McJeffries> And rename it as what? [03:01]	<Doob_McJeffries> Or just change the subwording? [03:01]	<Fiolli> "FAs to be reviewed" [03:01]	<Fiolli> Then remove that stupid comment altogether. [03:01]	<ChackJadson> Change subwording too, of course [03:01]	<Doob_McJeffries> Jesus God. [03:01]	<Doob_McJeffries> Wait a second. [03:01]	<ChackJadson> ... [03:02]	<Doob_McJeffries> You just said to change the other section to "FAs to be reviewed" [03:02]	<Fiolli> Forum #2 [03:02]	<ChackJadson> The first one is "FAs under review" [03:02]	<Tommy9281> I like "pending review" better [03:02]	<Fiolli> Forum #1 be "FAs under review" [03:02]	<Fiolli> Forum #3 be "Meetings and other official business" [03:02]	<Fiolli> No random crap comments under the subheadings. [03:02]	<Doob_McJeffries> and what becomes of Forum 2? [03:02]	<Fiolli> "FAs to be reviewed" [03:03]	<Fiolli> or "FAs in need of review" [03:03]	<Doob_McJeffries> Ok. [03:03]	<Doob_McJeffries> Do it. [03:03]	<CC7567> Fine with me. [03:03]	<Fiolli> Ok. I'll do it. [03:03]	<Fiolli> I'm on it. [03:03]	<ChackJadson> Cool [03:03]	<Cylka>	I like "FAs in need of review" [03:03]	<ChackJadson> Thanks, Fiolli [03:03]	<Doob_McJeffries> per Cylka [03:03]	<Cylka>	That makes it clearer. [03:03]	<Fiolli> Anyone oppose to me making the last section (meeting lists) into a table? [03:03]	<Fiolli> I've been wanting to do that for a while, now. [03:04]	<Doob_McJeffries> That would probably help [03:04]	<Doob_McJeffries> It would make navigating easier [03:04]	<Fiolli> Ok. [03:04]	<Fiolli> On it. [03:04]	<Tommy9281> knock it out the box, Rick [03:04]	<ChackJadson> lol [03:04]	<ChackJadson> Ok, are we done here? [03:05]	<ChackJadson> On this issue, I mean [03:05]	<ChackJadson> Cool [03:05]	<Tommy9281> Looks like it. [03:05]	<ChackJadson> Anything have anything before we get to Cylka? [03:05]	<Tommy9281> Nope [03:05]	<ChackJadson> Ok, Cylka? [03:06]	<Cylka>	Does anyone have individual concerns about the mass probed "to update" articles? [03:06]	<Cylka>	just to avoid extending probes for technical issues. [03:06]	<Cylka>	Or, you can add them yourselves later, if you find anything. [03:07]	<Doob_McJeffries> Adding them later is a good option [03:07]	<Doob_McJeffries> If anyone finds any [03:07]	<Tommy9281> I agree. [03:07]	<ChackJadson> Yeah [03:07]	<Cylka>	Or leave a message on my talk page. [03:07]	<Cylka>	Whatever. [03:07]	<CC7567> Well, removing the blatant "unknown"s from Jaina's successsion boxes [03:07]	<CC7567> *succession [03:07]	<Doob_McJeffries> Yes, please. [03:08]	<Cylka>	I'll give the articles a look over for anything blatant. [03:08]	<CC7567> Possible expansion of P&T and P&A for Kol Skywalker [03:08]	<CC7567> Hieroglyph's P&T as well [03:08]	<ChackJadson> P&T for Kol could probably be longer [03:09]	<CC7567> That's it from me [03:09]	<Cylka>	Marn needs a lot of updating in every section. [03:10]	<Cylka>	Alrighty. [03:10]	<Tommy9281> That's the end?