Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations/Unidentified Dersonn III species


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Unidentified Dersonn III species

 * Nominated by: GTQ ( Problems? ) 15:46, August 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:

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 * 1) Cal Jedi
 * Well, first off before even really looking at the article, I seen that it's missing a BTS section.
 * Added
 * That's good, but you should add the release date for KOTOR II.
 * It's also got some linking issues.
 * Could you specify what links I checked they all seem fine.
 * There were just a couple. I took care of them this time.
 * Also, what do you mean when you say "they were destroyed and the rest were enslaved". If they were destroyed, there wouldn't be any "rest". Please reword.
 * Done
 * It needs some categories.
 * Another silly oversight done.
 * "At some point" covers alot of time. See if you can explain better.
 * Done
 * You need to add a species infobox.
 * Done
 * If they were mentioned in KOTOR II, it seems like there would be some kind of quote for the article.
 * I was working grom the online companion and I found out it appeared in KOTOR II so I put it down, however I don;t own KOTOR II, If you do feel free to add a quote
 * I haven't played KOTOR II in a long time, but as nominator, you are responsible for finding all relevant info for it. Try asking on the IRC or in this project.
 * Since there is one appearance and one source, you need to specify in which one the species was first mentioned.
 * Done GTQ ( Problems? ) 17:32, August 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think that's it for now. Take care of these and I'll look it over one more time. Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 16:00, August 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, and if you'll need to source the infobox also. Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 03:03, August 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Exiled Jedi
 * Could you clarify how the species is mentioned in The Essential Atlas Online Companion, because I can't find where this species is mentioned?
 * I've give all I can from TEA online companion If you want to find in enter Dersonn III in the search you should find it.
 * If the Companion only mentions Derson III -- the homeworld -- but not the species, then the Companion should be removed from the sources section. --Eyrezer 20:30, August 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think you should remove this from the sources, but it may be used as a reference later.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  03:28, August 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * The companion is not a source for the species since the species is not mentioned in the companion.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  14:38, August 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think you're going to need to know how it is mentioned in KOTOR II in order to get all the information you need. I'll try and see how it is mentioned.
 * Hmm, can anyone else help here. I think its only mention is through a quote made by Mira about Hanharr when the Jedi Exile follows the light side path. Could someone try and get the quote so all the information is available for the nomination? I lost all my saves in the game awhile back and it would take me over a week to get there again.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  03:28, August 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * If the species is mentioned in KOTOR II it is likely mentioned in Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords: Prima Official Game Guide.
 * Don't have that either when I started wirting I didn't realize it was in KOTOR II
 * Now I am not so sure that the species is mentioned in this source, but it would still be good to ask someone to check.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  13:43, August 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * You'll need to source the 3,951 BBY date and you cannot source it to the video game since it is not mentioned in it.
 * Done
 * I think we'll need to game quote before we can say when it happened. It could have been years before this date.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  14:38, August 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * You're going to need more information on Hanharr.
 * Ok I think that is enough context If not tell me what I'm missing. GTQ ( Problems? ) 20:26, August 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Perhaps more later.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  17:47, August 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think that the article's sourcing could use some work:
 * Source the infobox.
 * You cannot source this: "...they were nearly rendered extinct and the remainder of their population was enslaved by the notorious Wookiee bounty hunter Hanharr." to The Essential Atlas Online Companion this is definitely from KOTOR II.
 * Done GTQ ( Problems? ) 13:07, August 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * No I think you should source the to Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords not the game guide. (I'm not even sure it is in the game guide, please ask someone to check for you.)-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  14:38, August 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * The rest needs to wait until someone digs up the KOTOR II quote, since I'm not entirely sure what is from the game and what is not.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  03:28, August 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Bob
 * 2) *You'll need to mention their sentience in the article body.
 * 3) *Be sure to check the Essential Atlas for contextual information about them, like when their general vicinity of the galaxy became part of the "known galaxy," whether it ever fell within someone's empire, etc.
 * 4) *Place all reference notes outside punctuation marks; currently reference 2 is on the wrong side of the tracks.
 * 5) *Perhaps link "extinct" to speciecide? If it wasn't an intentional wipe-out of their species, maybe death? In fact, the current wording makes it sound like the bounty hunter is the one who rendered them nearly extinct. Is that the case? If not, I'd reword.
 * 6) *Can you note in what context they are mentioned in KOTOR2? You should also provide at least a year for when KOTOR2 was released, and probably note who published it.
 * 7) *Similarly, what context are they mentioned in the Companion, and when was their part published?
 * 8) *The game guide should be a source, not appearance. And for an article this short, you should probably note this mention too in the BTS section, along with publisher and year of publication.
 * 9) *I know that's a lot, but much of that is very simple to fix. Glad to see an alien article from you, and hope to revisit this one soon! ~ Savage BOB sig.png 13:03, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

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