Talk:Doomgiver

The Doomgiver was not a mighty capital ship, just an unusual transport. The bottom of the ship wasn't even solid, but made up of many detachable landing pods. After its shields were dropped by Kyle Katarn, Rogue Squadron, not a full fleet, was able to defeat break through its defending TIEs and destroy the ship. I'm also not sure if this thing was bigger than an Imperial-class Star Destroyer. I remember someone at the theforce.net forums once scaled it to about 750 meters, using a concept art picture that showed the number of pods it carried, along with a key comparing the size of a pod to an X-wing. However, I wasn't sure if the concept art was the same as the final product. I planned to compare the size of the pods in the game to AT-STs, which are a known size, and then count the number of pods during the cutscenes. However, I lost my Jedi Knight II game, so I can't do any analysis myself now. Can someone else with the game attempt to calculate the size of the Doomgiver? JimRaynor55 11:57, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It is supposed to be comparable to an Executor-class commandship. The ocncept art is erroneous, and some say that smaller pods are in the main pods. Aldo, Kyle Katarn says that the ship is "big" (he infiltrated Executor and Arc Hammer, two HUGE ships, and Rogue Leader (Wedge Antilles) says that ths ship is big also (coming from the guy who attacked BOTH death stars, Executor-class commandships (the Lusankya, and the Reaper). It's huge, but the video people messed up the scale

-SWF

Capital Ship Classes
The Doomgiver should be in this category (I don't know why you guys took it out), since it's the only known representative of its ship class. JimRaynor55 18:16, 17 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree. Admiral J. Nebulax 19:23, 17 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Capitol Ship?
I dont know, this thing seems to have a well off complement of anti-fighter guns.

In the Outcast game, its gun could well off take out a TIE Fighter in one or two shots (Cant remember, considering I havent played the game in awhile.)

I say it is a Capital ship.
 * It is a capital ship. Look at the categories for it. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:16, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

What type of ship
If you read my post in the Star Destroyer discussion, I asked the question.

So, is this a Star Destroyer, an Escort Carrier, or a Transport? -- Captain Neo Exelor
 * It really looks like a Star Destroyer variant. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:33, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I added the category. -- Captain Neo Exelor
 * Okay. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:19, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Could it be suggested...
That the Doomgiver had more than one Bridge? The vessel was able to leave port and navigate into hyperspace while Kyle was on the bridge - to my knowledge of the game, there were no Imperials on the bridge at the time.

This could also be a testament to its large size, suggesting it is a Super-Star Destroyer. As posted above, Wedge said it was huge, when he KNOWS what huge is. Also, it is the flagship of a Admiral, which would provide more proof.

Just my opinion. -- Captain Neo Exelor
 * Well, we need proof before calling it a Super Star Destroyer. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:50, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, Im not even pushing for SSD, but atleast it has more than one bridge -- Captain Neo Exelor
 * Doomgiver is an exercise in contradictions. The interior levels are built to imply SSD-scale, with bottomless pits galore and the inexplicable cube room for the comm system and even a whole bloody tram system, while the cutscene views make it smaller than a Victory-class. But I wouldn't be surprised if it had multiple bridges. Or perhaps the bridge Katarn breached was an observation deck, and the actual bridge was one of the other mystery bumps on the hull or even buried inside. That would be in keeping with the innovative nature of Doomgiver's commanding officer. Of course, this is all just idle speculation since no official source has given the ship any additional details. -- Darth Culator 01:57, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
 * That could be. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 12:33, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Should These be added?
I found two snapshots from JK2, which have some strange shots. http://www.imperialbastion.ru/empire/sd/sd/doomgiver2.jpg http://www.imperialbastion.ru/empire/sd/sd/doomgiver4.jpg

Should these be added?

Also, I propose that the picture that compares the pod with the X-Wing and the Pods with the Doomgiver cannot be used as evidence of size. Notice, that, look.

HERE, it stretches only hallf the ship, and there are some weird thrusters. http://www.imperialbastion.ru/empire/sd/sd/doomgiver_sketch.jpg

HERE, though, the pods stretch the entire ship and the weird thrusters arent there. http://www.imperialbastion.ru/empire/sd/sd/doomgiver4.jpg

-- Captain Neo Exelor