Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Bettie-Bot VJ


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Bettie-Bot VJ

 * Nominated by: NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 04:53, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: I've caught the minor robot GA bug.

(4 ACs/4 Users/8 Total)
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 * 08:59, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:54, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Cylka  -talk- 11:37, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 3)  Cavalier One [[Image:FarStar Logo.jpg|20px]]( Squadron channel ) 13:08, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 4)  Grunny  ( Talk ) 14:00, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) Forgot about this.  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  00:17, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) -- Darth tom [[Image:Imperial Emblem.svg|20px]] (Imperial Intelligence)  22:15, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) CC7567  [ http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/5/5f/Rex.png/20px-Rex.png] talk 02:07, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Small things:
 * 2) * "Betty-Bot was a female personality programmed BD-3000 luxury droid with a soothing voice who supported the Galactic Republic and the Grand Army of the Republic.." You should try to work info like this into the "Bio" section so that it's not all about the clones, but tells about the bot too.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 23:33, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) **I added what I could while still keeping the flow.
 * 4) Cylka:
 * 5) * I believe that you should add in that this was during the Clone Wars.
 * 6) * The show was hosted by Bettie-Bot VJ, a female personality programmed BD-3000 luxury droid, and prior to the Battle of the Rishi moon, an assault on the Rishi station by a group of new BX-series droid commandos that resulted in the deaths of all but two of the station's personnel, Bettie-Bot sent a shout out and dedicated her next song to the 224th Mud-Jumpers unit fighting on Mimban. - This sentence needs to be broken up. Cylka  -talk- 20:51, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) * and occasionally chose to dedicate a song to a person or group - Where did you get occasionally?
 * 8) **I can't say that every song she played was dedicated but she does dedicate songs so I put that in. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 19:32, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) ***But you also can't broadly say "occasionally" like that. Just specify the instances. Graestan ( Talk ) 20:11, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) ****Specified. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 07:25, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) * You don't need to list the clones because they really have no bearing on Betty
 * 12) **Removed NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 19:44, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 13) * soothing voice - This is a bit POVish.
 * 14) **Removed NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 19:32, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 15) * supported the Galactic Republic and the Grand Army of the Republic - This is speculation.
 * 16) **It is not, IMO. She is openly rooting for clone troopers during her program on the GAR broadcast, therefore she supports the GAR. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 19:32, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 17) ***It's something that can go without saying. At any rate, they probably owned her, so it's not like she had a choice in the matter. Graestan ( Talk ) 20:11, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 18) * one and only appearance as a hologram and played songs for anyone who tuned in - Both of these are pretty much OR . Cylka  -talk- 07:22, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 19) **This is her only appearance. HoloNet is viewable by anyone. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 19:32, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 20) ***The "one and only appearance" implies she will never be seen again or something. As the "anyone who tuned in" is worded, it sounds as though she does requests without any filter. Graestan ( Talk ) 20:11, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 21) ****Fixed? NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 23:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 22) Toprawa:
 * 23) * This is Original Research. Just because she's a programmed radio personality doesn't mean she supports the Republic. She's a machine, so she's probably just doing her job, speaking preprogrammed material: "who supported the Grand Army of the Republic during the Clone Wars."
 * 24) * How do you know this? Did she say she takes requests? Original Research. "where she played songs for anyone who tuned in"
 * 25) * Again, Original Research. Nothing says she took requests for clone troopers. She could have just been saying one clone unit out of a randomized list as a cheap morale booster for all we know: "including clone troopers."
 * 26) * Comparing her eyes to insects is also kind of ORish. I would probably recommend just removing this: "She had compound eye-like photoreceptors." Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:08, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 27) You might want to include the origin of the nickname "Bettie-Bot" for BD-3000 droids in the Bts, which is explained in the databank for the BD-3000 luxury droid.  Grunny  ( Talk ) 03:59, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 28) *Added NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 13:57, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 29) Stuff:
 * 30) * Bio needs a bit of beefing up at its start. You should start off talking about Bettie-Bot before getting into her show. "Bettie-Bot VJ was..." etc. etc. etc. and the timeline and all that. Her model, manufacturer, etc. is also relevant to the bio. Then talk about the clone troopers listening to her show.
 * 31) **Fixed. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:19, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 32) ***Looks good, but I think the manufacturer could be mentioned too.
 * 33) ****Got it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:59, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 34) * "The clones had to terminate the holoprojector broadcasting Bettie-Bot's show to defend against a Confederate assault on the Rishi moon" - which clones exactly are these? The ones on Mimban or the others?
 * 35) **Contextualized. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:19, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 36) * "Bettie-Bot VJ was voiced by Gwendoline Yeo during the character's holographic appearance in the 2009 Star Wars: The Clone Wars television series episode entitled "Rookies."" - reads awkwardly. Start by saying the character was created for Rookies, then who voiced her, etc.
 * 37) **Reworded. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:20, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 38) * The Mimban thing in the BtS doesn't seem particularly relevant to Bettie-Bot.
 * 39) **I specifically requested that be included. I think it's particularly relevant. There would be few other places to stick that in. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:00, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 40) ***Mimban's BtS, perhaps? Would we list all the things from DE that, say, Luke gives pronunciations for in the audio drama on Luke's BtS? I'm open to its continued inclusion, but I'd need to be persuaded why it's relevant enough to Bettie-Bot for inclusion. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 17:10, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 41) ****I've tried rewording to make it sound a little more relevant to Bettie-Bot, though I regret that this new tweak makes the sentence sound repetitive, IMO. This is especially relevant to Bettie-Bot because this is her only contribution to Star Wars canon, whereas Luke has done a million things, so you wouldn't add every little trivial detail to his BTS. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:19, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 42) *****But it's a still a trivial detail. If it was reworded to say, "though the character appears in only a minor role..." and then went on to state her contribution to canon, I'd be more amenable to keeping it. I'll think about it, anyway. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 17:26, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 43) ******It's no more trivial than the character is to begin with. If the Bettie-Bot character was to ever have a legacy, it would be that she provided the pronunciation for this planet. I think stating that she's a minor character is rather self-explanatory. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:30, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 44) *******I reworded this a bit per your suggestion. See if this works for you. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:10, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 45) * The last paragraph of the BtS needs a bit of work. For a start, it should be mentioned earlier on the in the BtS that the droid model came from RotS, and this paragraph should be edited more to reflect its relevance to Bettie.
 * 46) **Cut down on some wordiness and tweaked it around to tie in to this character directly. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:25, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 47) ***I know it stemmed from my suggestion, but "most significant contribution" seems a little subjective. I think a slightly different wording could be better if someone can think of one while still making the same point. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 23:47, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * 48) * If it's a nickname, that should be noted in the article. Looking at the episode guide, it appears that a VJ is essentially a DJ, while a Bettie-Bot is a type of droid (or a nickname for one, at least). So, she's not "Bettie-Bot VJ" or "the Bettie-Bot VJ," but "a Bettie-Bot VJ," a VJ that is a Bettie-Bot. The article does not even hint at this, and is incorrect in places.
 * 49) **I took the episode guide to mean that that Bettie-Bot was at least her nickname, if not completely Bettie-Bot VJ, as the term Battie-Bot is only an on-set nickname for the model and is not canonical as a nickname for the whole series of droid. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 06:18, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 50) ***"The holographic VJ hosting the music broadcast is a BD-3000 droid, nicknamed a "Bettie Bot"" - unless I'm misreading this badly, this means that the droid model was nicknamed Bettie Bot, not this particular droid. So you could say she was "a Bettie-Bot" but not really "Bettie-Bot." -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 18:24, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 51) ****Fixed? NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 06:31, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 52) *****Looks good. A few little things left. As is, it reads like the droid model was responsible for the broadcasting, not the specific droid. Changing the opening word to "this" or else reworking the sentence would fix it (preferably the latter, though either works). Something in the intro also needs to be bolded. There's mention that she was a VJ anywhere in the article, which is necessary. Currently, there's info exclusive to the intro (the nickname thing). That could ideally be spelled out in the bio. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 23:47, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * 53) ******All of those are done. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 23:40, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * 54) * Is the fact that she's a BD-3000 really sourcable to Rookies? Also, is her name from Rookies, or just the episode guide?
 * 55) **Fixed NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 06:18, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 56) **Your article is decent, but looks a bit rushed. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 16:56, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Toprawa, I appreciate your help but please stop, I can do this GAN by myself. NaruHina Talk  06:18, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Naru, no one is saying that you aren't capable of handling the GAN. Furthermore, an article is not exclusive property, and any member who wants to address objections on any article is welcome to do so. Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 22:53, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * And I didn't say he can't but he should respect that I would like to do this by myself. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 03:44, 26 February 2009 (UTC)