Wookieepedia:Inquisitorius/Log/2007 March 25

mar 25 00:01:27 	Let's go. mar 25 00:01:40 	All right, first up: Jacen Solo. mar 25 00:01:50 	Speculation in childhood section "Had the whoever got the kids, blah" Source quotes. Trivia in Reunion section needs condensing, Ditto in abductions section. Ditto with 1st CI section. Some of this is actually copied and pasted from Jaina Solo. Is this okay? Could use a little bit of sectioning. More detail needed on YVW, except on imprisonment and escape. Sectioning needed there. Sourcing. mar 25 00:01:53 	First off - no citations. mar 25 00:02:19 	Besides sourcing, this could easily be fixed up mar 25 00:02:25 	"Vergere" section needs some work mar 25 00:02:25 	Well, that sums it up pretty well. mar 25 00:02:40 	Citations. mar 25 00:02:40 	Needs some condensing, as I already said mar 25 00:02:41 	Too much play-by-play, sectioning mar 25 00:02:54 	needs a P/T mar 25 00:02:56 	o yeah, the Leg. of the Force section is HUGE mar 25 00:03:03 	Are we supposed to have copy and pasted test? mar 25 00:03:07 	Leg of the Force needs to be huge. mar 25 00:03:08 	I agree with the more detail on the YVW. mar 25 00:03:08 	Some prose issues in "Vergere" mar 25 00:03:15 <Ataru>	*text mar 25 00:03:21 <Xwing328>	Ataru - it's not against rules, no. Just not always the best mar 25 00:03:25 <Imperialles>	No P&T. mar 25 00:03:27 <Ataru>	ok. mar 25 00:03:38 <Cull_Tremayne>	Alright vote time. mar 25 00:03:42 <Imperialles>	Remove. mar 25 00:03:42 <LordHydro|Food>	Remove mar 25 00:03:45 <Ataru>	Remove mar 25 00:03:50 <Cull_Tremayne>	Remove mar 25 00:03:51 <Havac>	Remove mar 25 00:03:53 <Xwing328>	Keep Xwing328 runs away mar 25 00:03:57 <Darth_Culator>	Remove. mar 25 00:04:08 *	supergeeky15 (n=supergee@c-68-51-147-102.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius mar 25 00:04:08 <Ataru>	Star? Jaina? mar 25 00:04:12 <JainaSolo>	Remove mar 25 00:04:23 <Cull_Tremayne>	Alright, that's 7 to 1. mar 25 00:04:26 <Ataru>	StarNeptune? mar 25 00:04:41 <StarNeptune>	Remove mar 25 00:04:42 *	[StarNeptune] (i=no@CPE001095973bce-CM001095173bce.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com): Jennie mar 25 00:04:42 *	[StarNeptune] @#wookieepedia @#wookieepedia-cabal @#wookieepedia-inquisitorius mar 25 00:04:42 *	[StarNeptune] irc.freenode.net :http://freenode.net/ mar 25 00:04:42 *	[StarNeptune] is identified to services mar 25 00:04:42 *	[StarNeptune] idle 00:00:01, signon: Fri Mar 23 05:35:25 mar 25 00:04:42 *	[StarNeptune] End of WHOIS list. mar 25 00:04:52 <Xwing328>	btw - what are the # requirements now? It seems to keep changing. 7? mar 25 00:04:52 <Cull_Tremayne>	Removed. mar 25 00:04:56 <Ataru>	And 10 with Eyrezer mar 25 00:04:59 *	The4dotelipsis is now known as The4dot|Away mar 25 00:05:03 <Cull_Tremayne>	Yes, but if 2 opposed then it stays. Correct? mar 25 00:05:06 <Imperialles>	It's always been 7. mar 25 00:05:07 <Ataru>	Yes mar 25 00:05:18 <Xwing328>	ok, next? mar 25 00:05:24 <Cull_Tremayne>	Alright next article: Pre-Republic era mar 25 00:05:32 <Ataru>	Remove OOU in Civilizations section. Fix present tense. These are easy fixes. mar 25 00:05:43 <LordHydro|Food>	What OOU? mar 25 00:05:49 <Cull_Tremayne>	Our of Universe. mar 25 00:05:52 <Cull_Tremayne>	*Out mar 25 00:05:54 <Havac>	Citations. Expand the history. Details on Architects and Celestials. mar 25 00:05:56 <LordHydro|Food>	I know what it is, I mean what example mar 25 00:06:05 <Imperialles>	It could be expanded in general. mar 25 00:06:09 <Ataru>	Little is known about the details of individual civilizations. The presence of single planetary governments in the years of the Republic suggests that most worlds became unified under one government during this time. mar 25 00:06:11 <Ataru>	That OOU mar 25 00:06:16 <Cull_Tremayne>	A little more Expansion could be done. mar 25 00:06:27 <Ataru>	Havac: It is cited mar 25 00:06:29 <Xwing328>	The sectioning under 3 Technology seems slightly weird and 3.1 Notable achievements. Couldn't those be merged? mar 25 00:06:44 <LordHydro|Food>	Notable achievements is a subsection of Technology mar 25 00:06:45 <Havac>	Oh, yeah, it is. I got confused. mar 25 00:07:03 <Cull_Tremayne>	Seoularians, the World of Fire, but what's there is cited and expansive. mar 25 00:07:34 <Xwing328>	But things like the Maw under Notable achievements under Technology is what bugs me. Don't ask why. I don't know. mar 25 00:07:47 <Cull_Tremayne>	Any more comments? mar 25 00:07:50 <Imperialles>	Ehh... doesn't the article seem awfully list-like? mar 25 00:07:59 *	The4dot|Away has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 1.5.0.11/2007031202]") mar 25 00:08:13 <Xwing328>	POV: "the most noteworthy of which is the New Essential Chronology." mar 25 00:08:16 <Ataru>	Considering how little info we actually have on it. mar 25 00:08:27 <Ataru>	That's BTS. mar 25 00:08:28 <Havac>	Yes, too listy. mar 25 00:08:35 <Ataru>	It's just written from OOU. mar 25 00:08:41 <Imperialles>	Some of the sections are too thin to warrant separate sections. mar 25 00:08:42 <Xwing328>	in Bts - it's still an opinion that NEC is most noteworthy mar 25 00:08:56 <Imperialles>	Image cleanup, too. mar 25 00:08:59 <StarNeptune>	I would have phrased it "primarily from NEC" mar 25 00:09:01 <Ataru>	It's not if most the article was obtained from the NEC mar 25 00:09:21 <Ataru>	Look at the refs section mar 25 00:09:28 <Ataru>	NEC easily outweighs everything else mar 25 00:09:33 *	supergeeky15 has quit (Client Quit) mar 25 00:09:38 <Imperialles>	Per StarNeptune. mar 25 00:09:38 <Cull_Tremayne>	The list doesn't bother me, however some sections are a little thin. mar 25 00:09:40 <Xwing328>	how 'bout "such as the NEC?" mar 25 00:09:43 <Ataru>	Ok mar 25 00:09:51 <Ataru>	I like Star's idea mar 25 00:09:54 <Ataru>	I'll change it now mar 25 00:09:58 <Xwing328>	good mar 25 00:10:05 <Cull_Tremayne>	Alright then vote time: mar 25 00:10:08 <Imperialles>	Remove. mar 25 00:10:25 <Ataru>	Keep mar 25 00:10:25 <Xwing328>	Remove - mainly until images are all sourced mar 25 00:10:26 <Havac>	Remove unless delisted. mar 25 00:10:29 <Ataru>	Eyrezer says Keep mar 25 00:10:54 <Cull_Tremayne>	The needed changes seem to be too small to warrant de-featuring. Keep. mar 25 00:11:02 <StarNeptune>	Per Cull mar 25 00:11:10 <JainaSolo>	Keep mar 25 00:11:31 <Darth_Culator>	Feh. Keep. mar 25 00:11:35 <Ataru>	Feh? mar 25 00:11:38 <Darth_Culator>	Feh. mar 25 00:11:42 <Cull_Tremayne>	Kept. Next article: Mara Jade Skywalker mar 25 00:11:53 <Ataru>	More Allegiance detail. Article covers about the half the book adequately. More detail on 1CI. Ditto on HoT. Cleanup on Dark Nest. Expansion needed of YVW. Definitely need more info on 2CI. Remove Products section. mar 25 00:11:54 <Darth_Culator>	Oh, there will be such whining... mar 25 00:11:55 <Imperialles>	Sourcing! mar 25 00:12:05 <Ataru>	I didn't even bother to write sourcing. mar 25 00:12:05 <StarNeptune>	Sourcing mar 25 00:12:11 <Xwing328>	Minor formatting, such as section capitalization - easily fixed mar 25 00:12:20 <Havac>	Yep, expand and source. mar 25 00:12:20 <Ataru>	Serious detail problems mar 25 00:12:23 <Ataru>	Makes me want to gag. mar 25 00:12:40 <Ataru>	Especially Legacy mar 25 00:12:51 <Ataru>	The lack of spoilers is atrocious considering how important she is mar 25 00:12:52 <Cull_Tremayne>	I want to say NPOV, but I can't in good confidence. mar 25 00:13:00 <StarNeptune>	Pratically no detail about Alliegance mar 25 00:13:05 <Ataru>	That too. mar 25 00:13:07 <Havac>	Could expand her ships section too. mar 25 00:13:08 <LordHydro|Food>	Sourcing, some quotes and images need sourcing, odd choice of images (replace Hand of Judgment with back cover Mara), bit of POV ("Mara was a witty character"), Personality section is poorly written, Mary Sue comments needs sourcing or removal, BtS is mostly speculation, needs Exile info mar 25 00:13:13 <Xwing328>	Does "Mara's ships" deserve its own entire section? mar 25 00:13:24 <Ataru>	Eyrezer says " (Needs to be sourced, "Mara's ships" could be longer, products info should be moved to merchandise wiki. The Mary Sue comment in the bts should also be expanded.I don't know if this is up-to-date as I'm avoiding spoilers for the latest Legacy book at the mo." mar 25 00:13:36 <Ataru>	Xwing: We've done it for other people. Case in Point; Isolder mar 25 00:13:41 <Xwing328>	alright mar 25 00:13:51 <Havac>	And this: Mara Jade fits all the requirements of a "Mary Sue". needs to go now. mar 25 00:13:58 <Ataru>	Yes mar 25 00:13:58 <Cull_Tremayne>	Vote time: mar 25 00:14:01 <Ataru>	Remove mar 25 00:14:02 <Cull_Tremayne>	Remove mar 25 00:14:03 <Havac>	Remove mar 25 00:14:06 <LordHydro|Food>	Remove mar 25 00:14:07 <StarNeptune>	Remove mar 25 00:14:08 <Ataru>	Eyrezer says Remove mar 25 00:14:08 <Xwing328>	Remove mar 25 00:14:15 *	LordHydro|Food is now known as LordHydronium mar 25 00:14:15 <Darth_Culator>	Remove per rules 2 and 9. mar 25 00:14:21 <Imperialles>	Remove! mar 25 00:14:26 <Ataru>	JainaSolo? mar 25 00:14:29 <Cull_Tremayne>	Removed Next article: Empire mar 25 00:14:33 <JainaSolo>	Remove mar 25 00:14:33 <Cull_Tremayne>	Empire Reborn mar 25 00:14:48 *	Ataru rests on this one. No issues, your honor. mar 25 00:15:06 <Ataru>	Not anything egregiously horrid, that is. mar 25 00:15:10 <JainaSolo>	Sourcing mar 25 00:15:16 <Cull_Tremayne>	It's sourced. mar 25 00:15:17 <LordHydronium>	It's sourced mar 25 00:15:18 <Ataru>	It is sourced mar 25 00:15:21 <Ataru>	lol mar 25 00:15:26 <Ataru>	Just not in the intro mar 25 00:15:27 <StarNeptune>	I see no issues with this one mar 25 00:15:29 <Cull_Tremayne>	No major complaints. mar 25 00:15:30 <Ataru>	We don't do intros mar 25 00:15:32 <Imperialles>	"Membership of the Empire Reborn" mar 25 00:15:39 <Imperialles>	That's a silly section. mar 25 00:15:39 <Ataru>	Aw, boo-hoo. mar 25 00:15:41 <Darth_Culator>	Amazing. It's... sourced. mar 25 00:15:44 <Ataru>	I know. mar 25 00:15:52 <Xwing328>	How does "Membership of the Empire Reborn mar 25 00:15:53 <Xwing328>	" look at low-res? mar 25 00:16:09 <Darth_Culator>	Gets squished but still works. mar 25 00:16:12 <Havac>	Good enough, I'd say. mar 25 00:16:19 <Ataru>	BTS isn't sourced though mar 25 00:16:27 <StarNeptune>	Could the "Empire Reborn" campaign box be moved to just under the main infobox? mar 25 00:16:32 <Xwing328>	ditto Star mar 25 00:16:32 <Imperialles>	Only objection I have is "Membership of the Empire Reborn." mar 25 00:16:37 <Ataru>	Now we're getting nitpicky! mar 25 00:16:47 <Darth_Culator>	Listyness is annoying but not fatal. mar 25 00:16:52 <Ataru>	Vote mar 25 00:17:03 <Darth_Culator>	Keep. mar 25 00:17:03 <LordHydronium>	Keep mar 25 00:17:05 <Cull_Tremayne>	I see no problem with lists when they're in the right place and give a good summary. mar 25 00:17:05 <Ataru>	Keep mar 25 00:17:06 <Xwing328>	Keep mar 25 00:17:06 <Cull_Tremayne>	Keep mar 25 00:17:08 <Ataru>	Eyrezer says Keep mar 25 00:17:09 <Havac>	A list is just fine so long as it isn't treated as replacement for prose content. mar 25 00:17:11 <Havac>	And keep. mar 25 00:17:13 <Imperialles>	Keep, but remove silly section. mar 25 00:17:18 <Ataru>	Bah! mar 25 00:17:22 *	Xwing328 will quickly move that template under the infobox mar 25 00:17:22 <Darth_Culator>	Feh. mar 25 00:17:24 <Cull_Tremayne>	Keep that section mar 25 00:17:27 <StarNeptune>	Keep mar 25 00:17:27 <Ataru>	Keep the section mar 25 00:17:32 <Havac>	Keep the section. mar 25 00:17:36 <Imperialles>	We can e-wrestle for it. mar 25 00:17:38 <Imperialles>	bah! mar 25 00:17:42 <Cull_Tremayne>	Kept Next article: Freedon Nadd. mar 25 00:17:43 <Xwing328>	How 'bout break into 2x2 section instead of 1x4? mar 25 00:17:54 <Ataru>	Needs P&T, Needs Sourcing. mar 25 00:18:00 <LordHydronium>	Needs less silly name mar 25 00:18:09 *	Ineedaname (n=ineedana@ACD49970.ipt.aol.com) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius mar 25 00:18:10 <LordHydronium>	equipment section could probably be brought IU, one image needs sourcing, quotes need sourcing mar 25 00:18:14 <Ataru>	Eyrezer says: Needs to be sourced, personality section, images need to be properly sourced, quotes need to be sourced. I don't think "Interestingly enough, Freedon Nadd has never appeared alive in any story." is particularly encyclopedic.)" mar 25 00:18:16 <Imperialles>	Bad intro: "reedon Nadd was an ancient Jedi apprentice." mar 25 00:18:18 *	The4dot|Away (n=chatzill@CPE-60-224-138-17.vic.bigpond.net.au) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius mar 25 00:18:29 <Ataru>	'lo 4dot. We're on Freedon Nadd mar 25 00:18:35 <Havac>	Cite, move equipment IU mar 25 00:18:41 <Ataru>	And P&T mar 25 00:18:42 <Cull_Tremayne>	Cite, P&T mar 25 00:18:45 <Imperialles>	Image cleanup. mar 25 00:19:03 <Xwing328>	minor formatting mar 25 00:19:09 <Cull_Tremayne>	Proper Image source templates, but that's just nit-picky mar 25 00:19:14 <Cull_Tremayne>	Okay, Vote time. mar 25 00:19:16 <Ataru>	There's minor formatting on almost everything Xwing! mar 25 00:19:18 <Ataru>	Remove mar 25 00:19:18 <StarNeptune>	Remove mar 25 00:19:21 <Xwing328>	lol - I know mar 25 00:19:21 <Havac>	Remove mar 25 00:19:22 <Imperialles>	Remove. mar 25 00:19:27 <Ataru>	Eyrezer says Remove mar 25 00:19:28 <LordHydronium>	Remove mar 25 00:19:28 <Cull_Tremayne>	Remove mar 25 00:19:29 <Xwing328>	Remove mar 25 00:19:30 <Darth_Culator>	Remove per rules 4, 7, 12, and 14. mar 25 00:19:32 *	Imperialles gives channel operator status to The4dot|Away mar 25 00:19:39 <Ataru>	oops mar 25 00:19:42 <Cull_Tremayne>	Though it could easily be saved. mar 25 00:19:44 <Ataru>	forgot to op 4dot. mar 25 00:19:47 <Havac>	Not oops, ops. mar 25 00:19:48 <The4dot|Away>	Ah. mar 25 00:19:55 <Cull_Tremayne>	Ok, next article: Stark Hyperspace War mar 25 00:19:58 <Cull_Tremayne>	Citations mar 25 00:19:58 <Ataru>	No, it was oops :-P mar 25 00:20:07 <Ataru>	Intro is too long, IMHO. Sourcing. mar 25 00:20:10 <The4dot|Away>	No bts. mar 25 00:20:20 *	The4dot|Away is now known as The4dotelipsis mar 25 00:20:23 <LordHydronium>	BtS isn't a requirement, is it? mar 25 00:20:23 <Darth_Culator>	The "also known as" is goofy. mar 25 00:20:23 <Ataru>	Eyrezer says: "Needs to be sourced, could do with quotes throughout—although not an FA requirement—could also do with some more pics" mar 25 00:20:28 <Imperialles>	Silly section: "Participants" mar 25 00:20:28 <Ataru>	LH: No. mar 25 00:20:32 <Cull_Tremayne>	Too long? mar 25 00:20:35 <Havac>	Citations, more quotes and such. mar 25 00:20:42 <Imperialles>	"Fan theories" mar 25 00:20:53 <Darth_Culator>	Sections are a bit big. mar 25 00:20:54 <Ataru>	Needs more "main article" links mar 25 00:21:04 <Cull_Tremayne>	What's the vendetta against lists? If it's still mentioned in the main prose, lists help supplement the article. mar 25 00:21:05 <Darth_Culator>	And the listyness is pushing it. mar 25 00:21:16 <The4dotelipsis>	Lists are unencyclopedic. mar 25 00:21:18 <Ataru>	Feh. mar 25 00:21:20 <StarNeptune>	Unless that fan theoy has a bunch of sources to back it up, it needs to go mar 25 00:21:20 <The4dotelipsis>	DESTROY! mar 25 00:21:27 <Havac>	Lists are encyclopedic. mar 25 00:21:35 <The4dotelipsis>	Not when they can be prose. mar 25 00:21:36 <Ataru>	Agreed mar 25 00:21:37 <Havac>	Just not lists on their own. mar 25 00:21:43 <Imperialles>	What does "Participants" add to the article? mar 25 00:21:46 <Havac>	But this list can't be prose. mar 25 00:21:54 <Imperialles>	Other than as a navigational aid? mar 25 00:21:54 <The4dotelipsis>	Bah! mar 25 00:21:55 <LordHydronium>	4dot: So should we delete all out "Lists of" articles? :-P mar 25 00:21:56 <Ataru>	A convenient place for linking. mar 25 00:21:57 <StarNeptune>	It provides who was there mar 25 00:22:01 <LordHydronium>	*our mar 25 00:22:01 <Ataru>	Exactly. mar 25 00:22:03 <The4dotelipsis>	Yes. mar 25 00:22:07 <Cull_Tremayne>	You just hit the nail on the head Imp. mar 25 00:22:14 <Imperialles>	Ok. That's dumb. mar 25 00:22:17 <Ataru>	Navigational aids aren't always bad. mar 25 00:22:26 <Xwing328>	Sourcing and quotes, grammar: "Due to the nature of the conflict—separatists aided by big business attempting..." mar 25 00:22:33 <Ataru>	Vote now? mar 25 00:22:37 <Xwing328>	Remove mar 25 00:22:38 <The4dotelipsis>	Vote now. mar 25 00:22:38 <Cull_Tremayne>	Alright vote: mar 25 00:22:39 <Havac>	Vote to remove mar 25 00:22:39 <Imperialles>	Remove. mar 25 00:22:40 <The4dotelipsis>	Remove mar 25 00:22:47 <Ataru>	Remove mar 25 00:22:48 <LordHydronium>	remove mar 25 00:22:50 <JainaSolo>	Remove mar 25 00:22:56 <Ataru>	Eyrezer says Remove mar 25 00:23:00 <Cull_Tremayne>	I say Keep :-P mar 25 00:23:08 <Ataru>	I almost said Keep, but I changed my mind. mar 25 00:23:22 <Cull_Tremayne>	Ok that's seven. Removed. Unless someone wants to join me? mar 25 00:23:26 <Darth_Culator>	I'm going to say keep. By the skin of its teeth. mar 25 00:23:42 *	Ataru is fine with that. mar 25 00:23:48 <StarNeptune>	Remove mar 25 00:23:48 <Havac>	But it's not sourced, dammit! mar 25 00:23:50 <Cull_Tremayne>	Alright kept then. Next article: Darth Maul. mar 25 00:23:54 <Darth_Culator>	The only rule it violates severely is 7. mar 25 00:23:56 <LordHydronium>	Sourcing, sectioning, issues with the BTS (why is one on blinking, and one just a restatement of his appearances?), P/T, and I'm iffy on non-canon sections integrated mar 25 00:24:00 <Ataru>	Sourcing. Confusion about Demolitions appearance. POVish in the prose, written from Maul's perspective. Needs P&T. mar 25 00:24:00 <The4dotelipsis>	Remove. mar 25 00:24:05 <Imperialles>	Needs a cleanup. mar 25 00:24:12 <Havac>	Remove noncanon sections. mar 25 00:24:13 <Ataru>	Not that Maul has much P in the P&T, but still. mar 25 00:24:19 <Ataru>	Can't do that Havac. mar 25 00:24:27 <Havac>	Yes. mar 25 00:24:29 <Ataru>	Consensus was to keep them mar 25 00:24:30 <StarNeptune>	"I r teh killing machine!" mar 25 00:24:31 <Cull_Tremayne>	Major clean-up mar 25 00:24:39 <Xwing328>	redlink :P mar 25 00:24:44 <Havac>	No, consensus was to remove noncanon and keep ambig canon. mar 25 00:24:46 <Cull_Tremayne>	Remove fanboyish language. mar 25 00:24:49 <Ataru>	YE mar 25 00:24:51 <Ataru>	S mar 25 00:24:55 <Ataru>	you get the idea mar 25 00:25:08 <Cull_Tremayne>	Okay vote: mar 25 00:25:11 <Xwing328>	Consensus was to move to seperate section, while labeling the other mar 25 00:25:11 <Cull_Tremayne>	Remove mar 25 00:25:12 <Ataru>	Remove mar 25 00:25:16 <Havac>	Noncanon should still be removed. mar 25 00:25:18 <Havac>	Remove mar 25 00:25:21 <Darth_Culator>	Remove per rule 2 and 14. mar 25 00:25:24 <Ataru>	Eyrezer says Remove mar 25 00:25:27 <LordHydronium>	remove mar 25 00:25:28 <Xwing328>	Remove - don't like Bts at all mar 25 00:25:28 <Imperialles>	Remove. mar 25 00:25:40 <StarNeptune>	remove mar 25 00:25:50 <Cull_Tremayne>	Removed Next article: Second Imperium mar 25 00:25:59 <Imperialles>	Silly section: "Members of the Second Imperium," "Vehicles and vessels used by the Second Imperium." mar 25 00:26:01 <LordHydronium>	Sourcing, an apparently FAs need a lead quote mar 25 00:26:05 <LordHydronium>	*and mar 25 00:26:26 <Imperialles>	Unsourced infobox image. mar 25 00:26:28 <Cull_Tremayne>	Citations, not very descriptive for an article that spans 6 books. mar 25 00:26:33 <Cull_Tremayne>	*topi mar 25 00:26:35 <Cull_Tremayne>	*topic mar 25 00:26:42 <StarNeptune>	I don;t mind the members list, but the vechiles and vessels section is pushing it mar 25 00:26:52 <Ataru>	Vehicles and vessels is definitely pushing it. mar 25 00:27:07 <Cull_Tremayne>	Vehicles should go. mar 25 00:27:09 <Xwing328>	Is that really all its appearances? mar 25 00:27:20 <Ataru>	Probably mar 25 00:27:24 <Havac>	Citations, remove the vehicles sections. mar 25 00:27:28 <Ataru>	Yep mar 25 00:27:31 <Ataru>	Needs quote mar 25 00:27:34 <StarNeptune>	"Tenel Ka faced off against the Tamith Kai" mar 25 00:27:39 <StarNeptune>	lol mar 25 00:27:51 <Cull_Tremayne>	Alright Vote: mar 25 00:27:54 <Ataru>	Remove mar 25 00:27:59 <Imperialles>	Remove. mar 25 00:28:00 <Havac>	Remove mar 25 00:28:02 <StarNeptune>	Remove mar 25 00:28:02 <Ataru>	Eyrezer says Remove mar 25 00:28:03 <JainaSolo>	Remove mar 25 00:28:06 <LordHydronium>	remove mar 25 00:28:10 <Xwing328>	Remove mar 25 00:28:11 <Darth_Culator>	Remove per Rules 9 and 12. Some minor prose issues fall under the nicely flexible Rule 1. mar 25 00:28:15 <Cull_Tremayne>	Remove mar 25 00:28:20 <Ataru>	4dot? mar 25 00:28:38 <Cull_Tremayne>	Removed Next article: Plo Koon mar 25 00:28:39 <Ataru>	Eh, it's consensus. mar 25 00:28:42 <Imperialles>	Silly section: "Plo Koon's starfighter." Needs a good cleanup. mar 25 00:28:59 <Ataru>	More detail on Stark Hyperspace War. Invasion of Naboo is strangely worded. Section on talons makes no sense in Abilities section. Needs P&T. mar 25 00:29:09 <Imperialles>	Needs a lot of sourcing. mar 25 00:29:11 <Ataru>	I never did get that talons thing. mar 25 00:29:13 <Ataru>	And sorucing mar 25 00:29:14 <StarNeptune>	I think that section was there because a whole bunch of fanboys kept making an article about it mar 25 00:29:14 <Cull_Tremayne>	Feel like it only got pushed through because of several fanboys. Prose issues etc. mar 25 00:29:36 <Ataru>	I like Plo Koon, but his article is not very good. mar 25 00:29:37 <Cull_Tremayne>	Could easily be expanded. mar 25 00:29:39 <Havac>	Citations, remove the saber section. mar 25 00:29:41 <Ataru>	Yes. mar 25 00:29:47 <LordHydronium>	Sourcing, quote sourcing, less on lightsaber color in BtS, "Possible survival" section is a real stretch, bit of sectioning in "Clone Wars" mar 25 00:29:48 <Ataru>	Saber section might not be bad mar 25 00:29:53 <Havac>	The saber thing is just stupid. Questioning canon like he can't have more than one saber. mar 25 00:30:19 <Ataru>	Ehhhh. . . but that's not within FA mandates. mar 25 00:30:27 <Xwing328>	I think Possible survival is good, since I've heard that outside of Wookieepedia mar 25 00:30:28 <Cull_Tremayne>	Plenty of sources, not much substance. mar 25 00:30:37 <Ataru>	Vote? mar 25 00:30:38 <Imperialles>	Remove. mar 25 00:30:43 <Cull_Tremayne>	Vote time mar 25 00:30:44 <Havac>	Remove. mar 25 00:30:45 <Ataru>	Remove mar 25 00:30:46 <Cull_Tremayne>	Remove mar 25 00:30:48 <StarNeptune>	Remove mar 25 00:30:53 <Ataru>	Eyrezer says Remove mar 25 00:30:54 <Darth_Culator>	Remove. Prose issues break rule 1, some BTS bits break rule 2. mar 25 00:30:56 <Xwing328>	Remove-ish.... mar 25 00:31:04 <Ataru>	JainaSolo? 4dot? mar 25 00:31:13 <JainaSolo>	Remove mar 25 00:31:15 <Darth_Culator>	7? mar 25 00:31:26 <LordHydronium>	remove mar 25 00:31:26 <Cull_Tremayne>	Removed Next article: Asajj Ventress mar 25 00:31:29 <Ataru>	We have to make sure only 1 person hasn't voted. mar 25 00:31:29 <Imperialles>	Needs P&T. Needs a cleanup. Needs to cite sources. mar 25 00:31:39 <Ataru>	Sourcing. P&T mar 25 00:31:45 <StarNeptune>	What Imp said mar 25 00:31:52 <Ataru>	Eyrezer says: (Needs to be sourced, personality section, the audio clip should be integrated if possible) mar 25 00:31:53 <Cull_Tremayne>	Lots of sourcing. mar 25 00:31:55 <Havac>	Per Ataru. mar 25 00:31:57 <Xwing328>	some of the quotes were sourced incorrectly earlier today mar 25 00:31:58 <Cull_Tremayne>	P&T mar 25 00:32:21 <Cull_Tremayne>	Very short for all of her appearances. mar 25 00:32:25 *	Ataru waits for 4dot to talk about the main image mar 25 00:32:34 <Ataru>	Or not, as the case may be. mar 25 00:32:35 <LordHydronium>	Sourcing, P/T, bit of sectioning in "The new face of war", out of place audio clip mar 25 00:32:46 <Cull_Tremayne>	Myriad of quotes should probably be moved to a Wookiee-quote page. Way too many in the main space of sections. mar 25 00:32:54 <Ataru>	Probably. mar 25 00:32:59 <Xwing328>	Main image not sourced, since 4dot didn't say it mar 25 00:33:06 <Ataru>	And it's not a face shot. mar 25 00:33:12 <Ataru>	That's what I was expecting him to talk about. mar 25 00:33:15 <Xwing328>	ah yes mar 25 00:33:20 <Ataru>	Face, portrait, whatever. mar 25 00:33:31 <Cull_Tremayne>	Vote time: mar 25 00:33:35 <Ataru>	Remove mar 25 00:33:35 <Darth_Culator>	Remove. Rule 1, 9, 12, 14, and the usual 11. mar 25 00:33:37 <Cull_Tremayne>	Remove mar 25 00:33:41 <StarNeptune>	Remove mar 25 00:33:42 <Ataru>	Eyrezer says Remove mar 25 00:33:43 <Imperialles>	Remove. mar 25 00:33:46 <Havac>	Remove mar 25 00:33:51 <Ataru>	LH? Jaina? mar 25 00:33:55 <Ataru>	Xwing? mar 25 00:33:59 <Xwing328>	Remove mar 25 00:34:00 <LordHydronium>	remove mar 25 00:34:09 <JainaSolo>	Remove mar 25 00:34:13 <Xwing328>	also a redlink *gasp* :0 mar 25 00:34:17 <Ataru>	OMG!!! mar 25 00:34:18 <Cull_Tremayne>	Removed Next article: Clone Wars mar 25 00:34:19 <Imperialles>	Silly section: "Jedi casualties of war." Needs to cite sources. Needs a good cleanup/copyedit. mar 25 00:34:20 <Cull_Tremayne>	Citations. mar 25 00:34:23 <LordHydronium>	Sourcing, Kashyyyk disproportionately long, Jedi casualties section unnecessary mar 25 00:34:26 <Xwing328>	Remove mar 25 00:34:34 <Ataru>	Muunilist section is poorly written. Most of the early battles need "Main article" links. Year three also. Outer Rim sieges needs sectioning, as does Battle of Kashyyyk. Sourcing. mar 25 00:34:42 <Havac>	Cite, get allies out of the middle of the history zections. mar 25 00:34:53 <Ataru>	Eyrezer says: "Needs to be sourced, expand intro, images could be better organized - too many in some areas, and none in others - could also do with more quotes) mar 25 00:35:03 <Cull_Tremayne>	Sourcing, bad sectioning. No real flow between sections. mar 25 00:35:08 <JainaSolo>	A couple of redlinks mar 25 00:35:22 <Ataru>	Not that! anything but that! mar 25 00:35:25 <Ataru>	:-P mar 25 00:35:25 <Imperialles>	Not good enough an article for the defining Star Wars conflict of the last 8 years. mar 25 00:35:30 *	Ataru hates redlinks mar 25 00:35:37 <Ataru>	Per Imp mar 25 00:35:41 <JainaSolo>	Ataru: lol mar 25 00:35:45 <Cull_Tremayne>	Random sentences seem to be added here and there. mar 25 00:35:46 <The4dotelipsis>	Remove mar 25 00:35:48 <The4dotelipsis>	Whatever it is. mar 25 00:35:51 <Ataru>	lol mar 25 00:35:54 <Ataru>	Clone Wars, 4dot mar 25 00:35:55 <Cull_Tremayne>	Repeats itself several times. mar 25 00:36:05 <The4dotelipsis>	Remove the. mar 25 00:36:08 <The4dotelipsis>	thing. mar 25 00:36:11 <Cull_Tremayne>	Vote time: mar 25 00:36:12 <Imperialles>	Remove. mar 25 00:36:13 <Havac>	Remove mar 25 00:36:14 <JainaSolo>	Remove mar 25 00:36:17 <Cull_Tremayne>	Remove mar 25 00:36:17 <Ataru>	Remove mar 25 00:36:18 <The4dotelipsis>	Remove mar 25 00:36:18 <StarNeptune>	Remove mar 25 00:36:20 <Xwing328>	Remove!!! mar 25 00:36:20 <Darth_Culator>	Remove. Rule 1 (inconsistent section length. some other issues), 2 (especially in the "civilian perception" section and BTS), 12, and the usual 11. mar 25 00:36:27 <Ataru>	Eyrezer says Remove mar 25 00:36:37 <Cull_Tremayne>	Removed Next article: Ready 4dot? ;) Ferus Olin mar 25 00:36:38 <Ataru>	The4dotelipsis: Go look at the main image on Asajj Ventress :-P mar 25 00:36:39 <The4dotelipsis>	BAHLETE! mar 25 00:36:43 <Darth_Culator>	KILL! mar 25 00:36:43 <Ataru>	lol mar 25 00:36:45 <The4dotelipsis>	WITH A VENGANCE! mar 25 00:36:50 <Darth_Culator>	Fanboys ahoy! mar 25 00:36:52 <StarNeptune>	Super Duper Happy Dance Remove mar 25 00:36:59 <LordHydronium>	Sourcing, P/T, improvement tag, play-by-play, prose issues. And on a non-FA note, his picture makes him look like a douchebag. mar 25 00:36:59 <The4dotelipsis>	We don't have to dicuss what's wrong with this piece of shit. mar 25 00:36:59 <Darth_Culator>	P. O. V. mar 25 00:37:00 <Ataru>	POV. Sectioning in early parts. Reunion section is poorly written. Padawan vs. Sith wannabe? Ugh. Mission to Naboo is poorly written. No P&T. Sourcing. mar 25 00:37:08 <Cull_Tremayne>	POV mar 25 00:37:15 <The4dotelipsis>	Wait a sec. mar 25 00:37:15 <Ataru>	Eyrezer says: Needs to be sourced, resolve Return to the Jedi Order section, needs personality section) mar 25 00:37:28 <The4dotelipsis>	There's one part in this article that's beatiful. mar 25 00:37:30 <Xwing328>	Has that clean-up like tag on it mar 25 00:37:33 <Cull_Tremayne>	Sectioning has trouble at some points. mar 25 00:37:34 <The4dotelipsis>	*beautiful. mar 25 00:37:45 <The4dotelipsis>	"Though he had previously felt Malorum's force sensitivity, Ferus never expected the dark-sider to unveil his crimson bladed lightsaber!" mar 25 00:37:50 <The4dotelipsis>	Do we need any other reason? mar 25 00:37:52 <Ataru>	Wow. mar 25 00:37:55 <Imperialles>	Flowery prose. mar 25 00:37:59 <Ataru>	That's pretty um. . . . bad mar 25 00:38:10 <Havac>	POV, citations. mar 25 00:38:11 <LordHydronium>	Yikes mar 25 00:38:15 <Ataru>	Vote already. Jeez mar 25 00:38:21 <Xwing328>	should be crimson-bladed :P  lol mar 25 00:38:22 <Cull_Tremayne>	Vote time mar 25 00:38:23 <LordHydronium>	Rrmove mar 25 00:38:24 <Cull_Tremayne>	Remove mar 25 00:38:25 <The4dotelipsis>	BAH-FRICKING-LEHETE!! mar 25 00:38:26 <Ataru>	Remove mar 25 00:38:27 <Havac>	Remove mar 25 00:38:27 <Darth_Culator>	Rule 1, 2, 4, 12, 14, and the usual 11. mar 25 00:38:28 <Xwing328>	Remove mar 25 00:38:29 <LordHydronium>	*Remove mar 25 00:38:30 <Darth_Culator>	So remove. mar 25 00:38:32 <LordHydronium>	I can't spell mar 25 00:38:36 <Ataru>	Eyrezer says Remove mar 25 00:38:39 <JainaSolo>	Remove mar 25 00:38:40 <Imperialles>	Remove. mar 25 00:38:45 <StarNeptune>	Remove dance of removallness mar 25 00:38:48 <The4dotelipsis>	Can we also remove the star from the top? mar 25 00:38:52 <Ataru>	Everyone hate this article. :-P mar 25 00:38:53 <The4dotelipsis>	And pretend it was never FA? mar 25 00:38:56 <Ataru>	*hates mar 25 00:39:00 <Cull_Tremayne>	Removed Final article: Tahiri Veila mar 25 00:39:01 <Ataru>	Tsk, tsk 4dot. mar 25 00:39:05 <Ataru>	Ah yes mar 25 00:39:06 <LordHydronium>	Sourcing, no personality section on Tahiri proper, sectioning, overlong intro, choppy prose and paragraph breaks in Vong War section, some parts of Vong War (first paragraph) seem really perfunctory. mar 25 00:39:09 <Imperialles>	Bad introduction. Needs to cite sources. Needs a proper P&T section. mar 25 00:39:18 *	Ataru demands an explanation on why Tahiri looks like Shirley Temple in BTS mar 25 00:39:20 <Ataru>	:-P mar 25 00:39:30 <Ataru>	Sectioning. Needs a better P&T. Sourcing. Myrkr section needs rewritten, expanded. mar 25 00:39:38 <The4dotelipsis>	Per Ataru. mar 25 00:39:43 <Ataru>	Eyrezer says: Needs to be sourced, further sectioning. The personality section should have info on Tahiri before her shaping as well. mar 25 00:39:43 <LordHydronium>	I want to know what the hell is up with this: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Njo_tahiri.jpg mar 25 00:39:44 <Havac>	Cite, expand. mar 25 00:39:56 <Cull_Tremayne>	Perfunctory: Good word. I agree. mar 25 00:40:04 <Xwing328>	fade on main image - kinda blegh mar 25 00:40:12 <The4dotelipsis>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:TahiriInPain.JPG - Funnier caption needed for this. mar 25 00:40:17 <Ataru>	I still want an explanation on the Shirley Temple thing :-P mar 25 00:40:36 <Ataru>	Mostly kidding mar 25 00:40:42 <The4dotelipsis>	And then, she tranformes into a bizzaro Sharon Stone. mar 25 00:40:48 <Cull_Tremayne>	Alright anymore comments? mar 25 00:40:48 <LordHydronium>	I want to know about man-face Tahiri: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Tahiri.jpg mar 25 00:40:53 <Ataru>	Gosh, she looks so angry in Tahiri.jpg mar 25 00:40:56 <Ataru>	Me too. mar 25 00:40:59 <The4dotelipsis>	With glossy lipstick. mar 25 00:41:01 <Cull_Tremayne>	If not, Vote time. mar 25 00:41:04 <Imperialles>	Remove, remove. Gah! mar 25 00:41:04 <Ataru>	Vote mar 25 00:41:05 <Xwing328>	Barefoot Jeedai – a Tahiri Veila shrine? mar 25 00:41:07 <LordHydronium>	remove mar 25 00:41:08 <The4dotelipsis>	Yeah, manface Tahiri should be put down. mar 25 00:41:09 <Ataru>	Remove. mar 25 00:41:10 <Xwing328>	Remove mar 25 00:41:12 <The4dotelipsis>	REMOVE. mar 25 00:41:15 <Darth_Culator>	Remove. Rule 7, 14, minor rule 1, and the usual 11. And the lack of an explanation for the Shirley Temple thing. mar 25 00:41:17 <StarNeptune>	Remove mar 25 00:41:22 <Ataru>	That artist needs hit with an inflatable forklift mar 25 00:41:29 <JainaSolo>	Remove mar 25 00:41:31 <Ataru>	Eyrezer says Remove mar 25 00:41:34 <JainaSolo>	Ataru: lol mar 25 00:41:42 <The4dotelipsis>	At least the Japanese can draw her like a woman. mar 25 00:41:43 <Cull_Tremayne>	Very choppy. Remove mar 25 00:41:43 <Ataru>	The man-face artist, that is. mar 25 00:41:46 <Havac>	Remove mar 25 00:41:49 <Cull_Tremayne>	Sketchy that is. :-P mar 25 00:42:12 <Ataru>	And the bad hair pic needs to go. mar 25 00:42:15 <Cull_Tremayne>	Removed. Moving on to additional agenda. mar 25 00:42:17 <LordHydronium>	Well that was quicker than usual mar 25 00:42:23 <Havac>	No, bad hair needs to stay. mar 25 00:42:27 <LordHydronium>	The Inquisitorius does make things go faster! mar 25 00:42:31 <Ataru>	Yay for that. mar 25 00:42:31 <Cull_Tremayne>	We had to keep in check because of the observers. :-P mar 25 00:42:38 <Havac>	Variety > more of the same. mar 25 00:42:40 <The4dotelipsis>	Observers? mar 25 00:42:42 <The4dotelipsis>	Oh crap! mar 25 00:42:51 <Ataru>	I have 4 articles in particular that I think we can look at again mar 25 00:42:55 <Cull_Tremayne>	Alright, let's quick go over the FAs from Meeting 2. mar 25 00:42:55 <Ataru>	If there are others speak up mar 25 00:42:56 <The4dotelipsis>	Peasants! mar 25 00:43:02 <Havac>	INAN, Sikon, and Ozzy aren't real observers. mar 25 00:43:02 <Ataru>	Rokur Gepta mar 25 00:43:15 <Cull_Tremayne>	I'll basically just say the article, and you say if it should stay or go. :-P mar 25 00:43:15 <Ataru>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rokur_Gepta mar 25 00:43:16 <Cull_Tremayne>	Yoda mar 25 00:43:21 <The4dotelipsis>	No improvment. mar 25 00:43:22 <Ataru>	Go. mar 25 00:43:23 <The4dotelipsis>	Remove. mar 25 00:43:24 <Ataru>	Remove mar 25 00:43:27 <Havac>	Yoda: remove mar 25 00:43:30 <Imperialles>	Remove. mar 25 00:43:32 <Darth_Culator>	Stay removed. mar 25 00:43:33 <LordHydronium>	I'd like to discuss Valance when we get there - we forgot to mention the P/T requirement mar 25 00:43:37 <LordHydronium>	remove Yoda mar 25 00:43:39 <Imperialles>	I tried sourcing it, but it was too horrible mar 25 00:43:41 <Ataru>	Removed, it should be. mar 25 00:43:50 <Ataru>	Not good enough, it is mar 25 00:44:00 <Cull_Tremayne>	Just really needs to be sourced. Fanony info seems to creep in too often. mar 25 00:44:04 <Ataru>	Def. mar 25 00:44:10 <Cull_Tremayne>	Not really any improvement I mean. :-P mar 25 00:44:11 <Havac>	Remove! mar 25 00:44:15 <Xwing328>	Stay gone mar 25 00:44:15 <Havac>	Remove! mar 25 00:44:19 <The4dotelipsis>	Remove mar 25 00:44:28 <Cull_Tremayne>	Next: Imperial I Class Star Destroyer mar 25 00:44:33 <The4dotelipsis>	Keep mar 25 00:44:39 <The4dotelipsis>	It has shown marked improvement. mar 25 00:44:39 <Havac>	Still Saxtonite; remove. mar 25 00:44:42 <Ataru>	Remove. mar 25 00:44:55 <LordHydronium>	That pie chart still doesn't have a source mar 25 00:44:56 <Xwing328>	why's the intro sourced? mar 25 00:45:00 <The4dotelipsis>	Because. mar 25 00:45:05 <The4dotelipsis>	Intros should be sourced. mar 25 00:45:08 <LordHydronium>	Because some people really like sourcing mar 25 00:45:11 <The4dotelipsis>	Don't knock professionalism. mar 25 00:45:12 <Havac>	Why not source the intros? mar 25 00:45:15 <Imperialles>	Remove. mar 25 00:45:19 <Havac>	It's still information. mar 25 00:45:19 <Ataru>	Intros aren't supposed to be sourced. mar 25 00:45:28 *	Ataru ducks a brick or tow mar 25 00:45:29 <The4dotelipsis>	Pfft. mar 25 00:45:30 <Ataru>	*two mar 25 00:45:31 <Xwing328>	b/c the intro is usually expanded upon in the main article, and that's the current rules mar 25 00:45:32 <LordHydronium>	Because it's a restatement of info that'll be sourced later mar 25 00:45:32 <The4dotelipsis>	Stupid rule. mar 25 00:45:34 <Cull_Tremayne>	A little hesitant, but I'll go with 4dot. Keep. mar 25 00:45:37 <Darth_Culator>	Keep. mar 25 00:45:40 <Ataru>	All right, it stays. mar 25 00:45:42 <Havac>	Then they're vulnerable to fanon and unprofessional. mar 25 00:45:42 <Darth_Culator>	Sourced like crazy. mar 25 00:46:02 <Cull_Tremayne>	Next: Chiss mar 25 00:46:04 <Cull_Tremayne>	Remove mar 25 00:46:05 <The4dotelipsis>	Remove mar 25 00:46:05 <Ataru>	Kill mar 25 00:46:08 <The4dotelipsis>	No improvement. mar 25 00:46:08 <LordHydronium>	remove mar 25 00:46:10 <Imperialles>	Remove. mar 25 00:46:12 <Havac>	Remove; no improvement. mar 25 00:46:15 <Ataru>	That article is terrible. mar 25 00:46:18 <Xwing328>	sourcing is crazy, yes mar 25 00:46:22 <Darth_Culator>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Chiss&diff=1182970&oldid=1171741 mar 25 00:46:24 <Cull_Tremayne>	I don't think anyone's even touched it since we put up the template. mar 25 00:46:25 <Darth_Culator>	REMOVE. mar 25 00:46:28 <Xwing328>	the Imperial-class was capable of entering atmospheres and supporting ground operations directly.[16][17][18] - multiple sourcing = unneccessary mar 25 00:46:41 <Havac>	Necessary. mar 25 00:46:45 <Xwing328>	whoops, wrong article already :P mar 25 00:46:52 <Cull_Tremayne>	Alright: Valance. mar 25 00:46:56 <LordHydronium>	OK, so: mar 25 00:46:58 *	Ataru smacks Xwing328 with an inflatable forklift mar 25 00:46:59 <The4dotelipsis>	Ehh. mar 25 00:47:00 <Darth_Culator>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Beilert_Valance&diff=1202998&oldid=1171747 mar 25 00:47:06 <LordHydronium>	We forgot to mention the P/T requirement mar 25 00:47:14 <Ataru>	Still needs P&T, but keep mar 25 00:47:14 <LordHydronium>	It just went on there last week mar 25 00:47:24 <The4dotelipsis>	Keep mar 25 00:47:25 <Darth_Culator>	Since we didn't mention P&T, keep. mar 25 00:47:27 <Cull_Tremayne>	I hate the random pics that have been added with nor realy connection. mar 25 00:47:30 <Havac>	Keep. mar 25 00:47:31 <LordHydronium>	Keep mar 25 00:47:38 <Cull_Tremayne>	But it has shown improvement. mar 25 00:47:41 *	Ataru agrees mar 25 00:47:48 <Ataru>	Jaina? Imp? mar 25 00:47:54 <Imperialles>	Ehh mar 25 00:47:55 <Imperialles>	Remove. mar 25 00:47:56 <Ataru>	Star? mar 25 00:48:00 <The4dotelipsis>	More Erik pacification can only be good. mar 25 00:48:00 <Cull_Tremayne>	I'm going to say Remove, even though it doesn't matter. mar 25 00:48:06 <LordHydronium>	I think we have enough to keep anyway mar 25 00:48:06 <Xwing328>	Geez!!! People need to learn to source! mar 25 00:48:27 <StarNeptune>	Keep mar 25 00:48:27 <Cull_Tremayne>	Okay, kept. Next: Ulic Qel-Droma mar 25 00:48:30 <LordHydronium>	"Who licks Qel-Droma? You-lick Qel-Droma!" mar 25 00:48:31 <The4dotelipsis>	Keep mar 25 00:48:34 <Ataru>	lol mar 25 00:48:35 <StarNeptune>	Keep mar 25 00:48:35 <Darth_Culator>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Ulic_Qel-Droma&diff=1202668&oldid=1171752 mar 25 00:48:35 <JainaSolo>	Keep mar 25 00:48:36 <Ataru>	Keep mar 25 00:48:36 <LordHydronium>	Keep mar 25 00:48:47 <Darth_Culator>	Notable improvement. Keep. mar 25 00:48:49 <Cull_Tremayne>	Well that was quick. mar 25 00:48:51 <Imperialles>	Remove. mar 25 00:48:55 <Ataru>	Bah mar 25 00:48:56 <The4dotelipsis>	Keep Veitch. mar 25 00:48:56 <Cull_Tremayne>	Next: Exar Kun mar 25 00:48:59 <Darth_Culator>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Exar_Kun&diff=1188411&oldid=1171760 mar 25 00:49:01 <The4dotelipsis>	But Anderson's one... mar 25 00:49:03 <The4dotelipsis>	Can GO! mar 25 00:49:05 <The4dotelipsis>	Remove! mar 25 00:49:08 <Darth_Culator>	No improvement. Remove. mar 25 00:49:09 <Imperialles>	Remove mar 25 00:49:11 <Ataru>	Remove mar 25 00:49:13 <StarNeptune>	Remove mar 25 00:49:29 <Cull_Tremayne>	I still want that "Ulic was stolen from me" comment sourced though. mar 25 00:49:29 <Havac>	Remove. mar 25 00:49:30 <JainaSolo>	Remove mar 25 00:49:33 <LordHydronium>	Remove mar 25 00:49:33 <Cull_Tremayne>	Remove for Exat. mar 25 00:49:38 <Cull_Tremayne>	*Exar mar 25 00:49:41 <LordHydronium>	Cull: It's gone from the article for now mar 25 00:49:42 <Xwing328>	remove - not much change mar 25 00:49:44 <The4dotelipsis>	And why does he look like a bizzaro Clive Owen? Sometimes. mar 25 00:49:56 <Havac>	Exar? He's Seagal, I thought. mar 25 00:49:57 <Cull_Tremayne>	LH: Ah, I was looking at the old article. :-P mar 25 00:50:06 <The4dotelipsis>	Oh, right. mar 25 00:50:12 <The4dotelipsis>	Next? mar 25 00:50:15 <Cull_Tremayne>	Okay, removed: Pellaeon. mar 25 00:50:16 <The4dotelipsis>	Poor Pelly. mar 25 00:50:17 <Darth_Culator>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Gilad_Pellaeon&diff=1201644&oldid=1171762 mar 25 00:50:19 <Ataru>	Remove mar 25 00:50:20 <The4dotelipsis>	No one loves you. mar 25 00:50:21 <Havac>	Remove. mar 25 00:50:22 <The4dotelipsis>	Remove. mar 25 00:50:22 <Ataru>	Nothing's been done mar 25 00:50:23 <Darth_Culator>	Remove. mar 25 00:50:25 <StarNeptune>	Remove mar 25 00:50:31 <LordHydronium>	remove mar 25 00:50:33 <Cull_Tremayne>	Nothing at all done: Remove. mar 25 00:50:41 <Xwing328>	Remove mar 25 00:50:45 <JainaSolo>	Remove mar 25 00:50:45 <LordHydronium>	Pellaeon surrenders yet again. mar 25 00:50:47 <The4dotelipsis>	Oh my god. mar 25 00:50:50 <Cull_Tremayne>	Removed. Next: Anakin Solo. mar 25 00:50:55 <The4dotelipsis>	Anakin's sourcing has gone mad. mar 25 00:50:56 <Darth_Culator>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Anakin_Solo&diff=1202269&oldid=1171768 mar 25 00:50:57 <StarNeptune>	Keep mar 25 00:51:00 <Ataru>	Keep mar 25 00:51:04 <JainaSolo>	Keep mar 25 00:51:08 *	Ataru did most of that sourcing thank you mar 25 00:51:10 <Darth_Culator>	Keep. mar 25 00:51:11 <The4dotelipsis>	Remove. mar 25 00:51:15 <Cull_Tremayne>	I say Remove mar 25 00:51:16 <LordHydronium>	Keep mar 25 00:51:23 <Imperialles>	Remove. mar 25 00:51:26 <Xwing328>	Remove - sourcing needs to be fixed asap mar 25 00:51:27 <Ataru>	I'll finish it if I can get help also mar 25 00:51:31 <Havac>	It's kept anyway. mar 25 00:51:35 <Ataru>	I just don't have everything mar 25 00:51:36 <Havac>	Next! mar 25 00:51:43 <Cull_Tremayne>	Yes, so next article: Bane mar 25 00:51:44 <The4dotelipsis>	Bane. mar 25 00:51:46 <Darth_Culator>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Darth_Bane&diff=1202548&oldid=1171771 mar 25 00:51:46 <Ataru>	Ugh mar 25 00:51:46 <The4dotelipsis>	Remove. mar 25 00:51:47 <Imperialles>	We can work around that, Ataru. ;) mar 25 00:51:47 <Xwing328>	Ataru - its screwing formatting up, that's all mar 25 00:51:50 <Imperialles>	Remove. mar 25 00:51:51 <Ataru>	Remove. mar 25 00:51:54 <StarNeptune>	Remove mar 25 00:51:54 <Darth_Culator>	No improvement. Remove. mar 25 00:51:56 <Ataru>	Xwing: Sorry. mar 25 00:51:59 <Havac>	Remove. No one loves him. mar 25 00:52:02 <Cull_Tremayne>	Nothing done, basically because it's going to be a huge task. mar 25 00:52:09 <The4dotelipsis>	Thanks a lot, Karpyshyn, you bastard. mar 25 00:52:12 <Ataru>	No one loves Bane. And for obvious reasons. mar 25 00:52:12 <Xwing328>	remove bane mar 25 00:52:16 <LordHydronium>	remove mar 25 00:52:19 <Ataru>	He's UGLY@ mar 25 00:52:21 <Ataru>	! mar 25 00:52:23 <Ataru>	Remove mar 25 00:52:28 <Cull_Tremayne>	Removed: Last Rokur Gepta. mar 25 00:52:32 <Darth_Culator>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Rokur_Gepta&diff=1202086&oldid=1171774 mar 25 00:52:33 <Cull_Tremayne>	Remove, nothing done. mar 25 00:52:34 <Ataru>	Keep mar 25 00:52:34 <The4dotelipsis>	Keep mar 25 00:52:36 <Ataru>	Bah mar 25 00:52:38 <Cull_Tremayne>	Oh wait. mar 25 00:52:38 <Imperialles>	Remove mar 25 00:52:41 <Ataru>	Cull: What are you on? mar 25 00:52:45 <Cull_Tremayne>	Crack. mar 25 00:52:47 <Ataru>	lol mar 25 00:52:53 <Darth_Culator>	Some improvement. Wasn't that bad to begin with. Keep. mar 25 00:52:54 <Ataru>	I meant article, but whatever mar 25 00:52:59 <Ataru>	I'll finish that one too mar 25 00:53:04 <Havac>	Keep, I suppose. mar 25 00:53:06 <Ataru>	I've been working on it :-) mar 25 00:53:09 <The4dotelipsis>	Funnier caption for this: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:RokurGepta.jpg mar 25 00:53:14 <Imperialles>	"Gepta was a sadistic, cruel being, with a penchant for flaunting his power over those he considered inferior. He enjoyed the pain of others and was extremely vengeful, as evidenced by his prolonged pursuit of Lando Calrissian. Gepta also enjoyed the deceptions he frequently employed to further his schemes, and could not bear to be crossed, particularly by those he considered inferior" mar 25 00:53:14 <Cull_Tremayne>	We need to put back in that Unknown that was removed by one of the bots. mar 25 00:53:28 <The4dotelipsis>	Yeah, well. mar 25 00:53:32 <The4dotelipsis>	It's being worked on. mar 25 00:53:33 <Xwing328>	Gepta's slightly better mar 25 00:53:35 <Imperialles>	That's the worst POV I've seen all day mar 25 00:53:36 <Ataru>	Imp: I haven't done that section yet. mar 25 00:53:42 <Imperialles>	Alright. mar 25 00:53:47 <Ataru>	The top part is the only thing I haven't touched yet. mar 25 00:53:55 <Ataru>	Mostly because I'm missing a source. mar 25 00:54:01 <Xwing328>	which one? mar 25 00:54:02 <Imperialles>	What are you missing? mar 25 00:54:07 <Ataru>	Dark Side Sourcebook, I think mar 25 00:54:18 <Ataru>	Gamer 5 if it has anything good. mar 25 00:54:21 <Cull_Tremayne>	Okay, Kept. mar 25 00:54:23 <Imperialles>	Ah, that can be provided mar 25 00:54:27 <Ataru>	Keep mar 25 00:54:33 <Ataru>	More stuff mar 25 00:54:35 <Imperialles>	Now, please summarize this mar 25 00:54:40 <Imperialles>	For the WP:FA list. mar 25 00:54:48 <Cull_Tremayne>	Alright, Nom update. Ataru you have the floor. mar 25 00:54:55 <Imperialles>	No, no. mar 25 00:54:59 <Imperialles>	Summary! mar 25 00:55:03 <Ataru>	Okay- we need to summarize first mar 25 00:55:15 <Cull_Tremayne>	Gah! mar 25 00:55:36 *	Eyrezer (n=danieley@121-72-134-143.dsl.telstraclear.net) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius mar 25 00:55:39 <Ataru>	Summarize Cull mar 25 00:55:41 <Xwing328>	Do you need the log for that? mar 25 00:56:00 <Ataru>	We can do FA noms first and then summarize if that's easier. mar 25 00:56:07 <The4dotelipsis>	Do let's. mar 25 00:56:09 <Imperialles>	Sure. mar 25 00:56:13 <Cull_Tremayne>	Oh wait, I'm summarizing the noms? mar 25 00:56:18 <Cull_Tremayne>	Or the FA removals? mar 25 00:56:19 <Ataru>	No, the results mar 25 00:56:22 <Ataru>	FA removals. mar 25 00:56:23 <The4dotelipsis>	Luke Skywalker has to rock down to electric avenue. mar 25 00:56:27 <Ataru>	And now, for the nooms mar 25 00:56:30 <Ataru>	noms mar 25 00:56:31 <Ataru>	Luke: mar 25 00:56:36 <Ataru>	Vote to remove this one! mar 25 00:56:37 <Imperialles>	Ugh. mar 25 00:56:39 <The4dotelipsis>	She's a nota good enough! mar 25 00:56:39 <Imperialles>	Remove. mar 25 00:56:44 <Ataru>	Remove mar 25 00:56:45 <Darth_Culator>	Bye. mar 25 00:56:48 <Cull_Tremayne>	Jacen: Kept Pre- mar 25 00:56:55 <Ataru>	Cull: later mar 25 00:57:03 <Cull_Tremayne>	Fine. I got the first one wrong anyway. :-P mar 25 00:57:07 <Ataru>	Any other removes? mar 25 00:57:12 <The4dotelipsis>	Remove mar 25 00:57:21 <Ataru>	That's not enough to remove, I don't think. mar 25 00:57:22 <Xwing328>	That should be our best. Sad. Remove mar 25 00:57:30 <Ataru>	I used to work on it, but Marvel sucks mar 25 00:57:32 <Ataru>	a lot mar 25 00:57:36 <Imperialles>	Marvel sucks. mar 25 00:57:41 <Darth_Culator>	Marvel is fun. mar 25 00:57:42 <The4dotelipsis>	Eh? mar 25 00:57:46 <LordHydronium>	Marvel is awesome. mar 25 00:57:49 <Darth_Culator>	I don't know what your problem is. mar 25 00:57:51 <The4dotelipsis>	And we needed a picture of Rambo Luke. mar 25 00:57:53 <Xwing328>	Marvel is crazy awesome! mar 25 00:57:57 <Imperialles>	Oh, I enjoy it somewhat. mar 25 00:57:58 <Ataru>	It is until you have to go add it to an article like Luke mar 25 00:58:03 <Ataru>	Then it sucks. mar 25 00:58:10 <Ataru>	So, we're removing this nom. mar 25 00:58:12 <Imperialles>	I just don't like writing about it. mar 25 00:58:18 <Havac>	Remove the nom. mar 25 00:58:18 <Imperialles>	See Lando Calrissian. mar 25 00:58:23 *	Ataru shudders mar 25 00:58:30 <The4dotelipsis>	HK-47. mar 25 00:58:31 <Ataru>	Next up: Ysanne Isard mar 25 00:58:37 <Imperialles>	Remove. mar 25 00:58:39 <The4dotelipsis>	Oh, we're doing it that way. mar 25 00:58:40 <StarNeptune>	Remove mar 25 00:58:46 <Imperialles>	Has way many issues. mar 25 00:58:48 <The4dotelipsis>	Remove. mar 25 00:58:50 <Ataru>	Remove. mar 25 00:58:54 <Ataru>	Stuff keeps coming up on this one mar 25 00:59:18 <Ataru>	That's only three mar 25 00:59:20 <Ataru>	or four mar 25 00:59:22 <Ataru>	Culator? mar 25 00:59:24 <Darth_Culator>	And parts of the prose still bother me. mar 25 00:59:24 <Ataru>	Havac? mar 25 00:59:27 <Ataru>	Hydronium? mar 25 00:59:30 <Ataru>	Xwing? mar 25 00:59:31 <LordHydronium>	It seems a bit short for such a major character mar 25 00:59:32 <Darth_Culator>	So even though I think she's hot, remove. mar 25 00:59:34 <Ataru>	JainaSolo? mar 25 00:59:37 *	StarNeptune pokes the rest of the Inq mar 25 00:59:40 *	Ataru gives channel operator status to Eyrezer mar 25 00:59:43 <Ataru>	Oops mar 25 00:59:44 <JainaSolo>	Remove mar 25 00:59:45 <Xwing328>	gtg look at it mar 25 00:59:51 <Ataru>	Eyrezer? mar 25 00:59:53 *	The4dotelipsis is interested by StarNeptune's offer. mar 25 01:00:02 <Havac>	What? Why are we doing these on here? mar 25 01:00:05 *	Ataru smacks 4dot with an inflatable forklift. mar 25 01:00:09 <Eyrezer>	hey mar 25 01:00:10 <Ataru>	To get them out of here. mar 25 01:00:12 <The4dotelipsis>	Sorry. mar 25 01:00:13 <Xwing328>	Remove mar 25 01:00:15 <Darth_Culator>	Because it's fast. mar 25 01:00:15 <Eyrezer>	I can talk! mar 25 01:00:19 <Ataru>	Yes. mar 25 01:00:33 <Xwing328>	Needs sourcing, some expansion on, say, her ships, etc. mar 25 01:00:38 <Ataru>	I need one more. mar 25 01:00:46 <Ataru>	no, that's 7 mar 25 01:00:49 <Ataru>	nom removed mar 25 01:01:01 <Ataru>	Next up: Form V mar 25 01:01:17 <StarNeptune>	What about HK-47? mar 25 01:01:17 <The4dotelipsis>	What about HK-47? mar 25 01:01:19 <Xwing328>	Didn't I vote for that one? mar 25 01:01:21 <The4dotelipsis>	Hah> mar 25 01:01:24 <Ataru>	Is HK next? mar 25 01:01:26 <Ataru>	oops mar 25 01:01:34 <Ataru>	My mistake mar 25 01:01:37 <Ataru>	HK-47 mar 25 01:01:39 <The4dotelipsis>	Remove. mar 25 01:01:42 <Imperialles>	Remove. mar 25 01:01:43 <StarNeptune>	Remove mar 25 01:01:51 <The4dotelipsis>	Images are basically all the same. mar 25 01:01:53 <Ataru>	It hasn't been there that long mar 25 01:01:55 <The4dotelipsis>	No refs. mar 25 01:01:56 <StarNeptune>	It's a fanboy target mar 25 01:01:59 <Xwing328>	content continues to be expanded in sources, hard to keep up to date, no refs mar 25 01:01:59 <Darth_Culator>	Can't be an FA until it's sourced. mar 25 01:02:06 *	Ineedaname (n=ineedana@ACD49970.ipt.aol.com) has left #wookieepedia-inquisitorius mar 25 01:02:12 <Ataru>	Yeah, but no reason to remove a nom, IMHO mar 25 01:02:20 <The4dotelipsis>	.... mar 25 01:02:22 <The4dotelipsis>	Sourcing. mar 25 01:02:26 <The4dotelipsis>	That's a good reason. mar 25 01:02:32 <The4dotelipsis>	And nothing is being done about it. mar 25 01:02:34 <StarNeptune>	Ataru: i AGREE, BUT i'M JUST STATING A FACT :p mar 25 01:02:40 <Ataru>	ok mar 25 01:02:44 <Imperialles>	Stop yelling! mar 25 01:02:46 <Ataru>	Vote then: mar 25 01:02:49 <The4dotelipsis>	Caps! mar 25 01:02:51 <The4dotelipsis>	Remove mar 25 01:02:52 <Ataru>	Keep mar 25 01:02:56 <Darth_Culator>	rEMOVE mar 25 01:03:02 <Xwing328>	HK: Remove mar 25 01:03:06 <StarNeptune>	Remove mar 25 01:03:09 <Imperialles>	Keep mar 25 01:03:13 <The4dotelipsis>	Ataru: eBAY mar 25 01:03:16 <Ataru>	Xwing? Imp? JainaSolo? mar 25 01:03:20 <Ataru>	Eyrezer? mar 25 01:03:22 <Ataru>	Havac? mar 25 01:03:31 <Xwing328>	Ataru - I just voted Remove mar 25 01:03:31 <The4dotelipsis>	wHOOPS. mar 25 01:03:37 <Ataru>	Okay. mar 25 01:03:39 <Havac>	Not worth removing. Give it time. mar 25 01:03:39 <JainaSolo>	Remove mar 25 01:03:45 <Ataru>	Two keeps say it stays. mar 25 01:04:04 <The4dotelipsis>	Bah. mar 25 01:04:05 <Ataru>	Next up: Form V Shien/Djem So mar 25 01:04:08 <The4dotelipsis>	Remove. mar 25 01:04:09 <Imperialles>	Remooove. mar 25 01:04:10 <Eyrezer>	keep mar 25 01:04:11 <Ataru>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Form_V:_Shien_/_Djem_So mar 25 01:04:13 <Ataru>	Hang on mar 25 01:04:14 <JainaSolo>	keep mar 25 01:04:16 <Ataru>	I worked on it today mar 25 01:04:19 <Havac>	Keep. mar 25 01:04:21 <Havac>	Keep. mar 25 01:04:21 <Ataru>	It's in progress mar 25 01:04:23 <Havac>	Keep. mar 25 01:04:23 <Ataru>	Keep mar 25 01:04:29 <Ataru>	It's being sourced, and I'm killing all the fanon mar 25 01:04:34 <Darth_Culator>	OK then. mar 25 01:04:39 <The4dotelipsis>	Still a poort main pic. mar 25 01:04:39 <Ataru>	And if I can do it with Form IV, I can do it with V mar 25 01:04:55 <Ataru>	4dot: I'd love a better one, but I'm not an image guru mar 25 01:05:02 <Ataru>	Keep mar 25 01:05:06 <The4dotelipsis>	I'll do one. mar 25 01:05:08 <Ataru>	Consensus is keep nom mar 25 01:05:17 <The4dotelipsis>	The shocking thing is, JMASS is supposed to be an image guru. mar 25 01:05:24 <Ataru>	Next up: The Haunted Village mar 25 01:05:26 <Havac>	Village thing: keep. mar 25 01:05:30 <Imperialles>	Keep mar 25 01:05:31 <Ataru>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Haunted_Village mar 25 01:05:33 <Ataru>	Keep mar 25 01:05:35 <The4dotelipsis>	Remove! mar 25 01:05:40 <Darth_Culator>	Hmm. Hmmmmmm. mar 25 01:05:41 <Eyrezer>	keep mar 25 01:05:44 <The4dotelipsis>	How can you say keep, oh, I do not believe this. mar 25 01:05:46 <Ataru>	All you need to go to vote on it. mar 25 01:05:51 <Ataru>	Abstain mar 25 01:05:56 <Ataru>	I actually haven't read this one mar 25 01:06:10 <The4dotelipsis>	Plot summary is shocking. mar 25 01:06:11 <Darth_Culator>	It's a play-by-play. mar 25 01:06:16 <Ataru>	Feh mar 25 01:06:20 <Darth_Culator>	Remove. mar 25 01:06:20 <Imperialles>	I'm not supporting the article. mar 25 01:06:22 <Ataru>	No reason to kill a nom though mar 25 01:06:23 <LordHydronium>	It doesn't seem like there's much more to it than just a long summary mar 25 01:06:28 <Imperialles>	But the nom should stay. mar 25 01:06:32 <Havac>	You don't have to support it to let the nom continue. mar 25 01:06:37 <Ataru>	It's been there less than a month mar 25 01:06:42 <LordHydronium>	Yeah, it's not enough to kill mar 25 01:06:43 <Ataru>	Little more mar 25 01:06:46 <Havac>	That's why there's time for it. mar 25 01:06:57 <Ataru>	Only really, really, really bad articles should be removed mar 25 01:07:03 <The4dotelipsis>	Like the next one. mar 25 01:07:05 <Ataru>	Keep mar 25 01:07:07 <Havac>	Anakin: kill. It will never be sourced in time. Tell them to source it and come back. mar 25 01:07:08 <LordHydronium>	Universal Day of the Jedi! mar 25 01:07:19 <Ataru>	Next up: Anakin *gasp* Skywalker mar 25 01:07:26 <Ataru>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Anakin_Skywalker mar 25 01:07:29 <Imperialles>	Remoooove mar 25 01:07:30 <Darth_Culator>	Oh dear Kyle, no. mar 25 01:07:34 <Havac>	BAHLEET! mar 25 01:07:34 <The4dotelipsis>	Remove. mar 25 01:07:34 <Ataru>	Whoever nom'd this has no idea of what a FA is mar 25 01:07:37 <Xwing328>	Remove mar 25 01:07:37 <Ataru>	Remove mar 25 01:07:38 <Darth_Culator>	DO NOT WANT mar 25 01:07:47 <Ataru>	I have 4 votes mar 25 01:07:53 <Ataru>	I need 3 more to remove mar 25 01:07:56 <LordHydronium>	Ataru: It's an article on my favorite character, right? mar 25 01:07:57 <Darth_Culator>	RRRRRRremove! mar 25 01:08:00 <StarNeptune>	Remove mar 25 01:08:01 <Ataru>	5 votes mar 25 01:08:03 <Ataru>	6 mar 25 01:08:05 <JainaSolo>	Not Anakin mar 25 01:08:16 <Ataru>	Is that a remove JainaSolo? mar 25 01:08:22 <Havac>	Seven. mar 25 01:08:30 <Ataru>	Okay. mar 25 01:08:31 <Havac>	You already have 7. mar 25 01:08:33 <Ataru>	Nom removed mar 25 01:08:35 <JainaSolo>	No mar 25 01:08:49 <Ataru>	Next up: Padme Amidala's wardrobe mar 25 01:08:55 <Imperialles>	Keep mar 25 01:08:56 <Ataru>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Padm%C3%A9_Amidala%27s_wardrobe mar 25 01:08:59 <JainaSolo>	Keep mar 25 01:09:00 <LordHydronium>	We've already approved this anyway mar 25 01:09:06 <Darth_Culator>	Amazingly enough, keep. mar 25 01:09:07 <The4dotelipsis>	Keep mar 25 01:09:08 <Ataru>	Keep and move to queue ASAP mar 25 01:09:09 <Havac>	Already approved. NEXT! mar 25 01:09:16 <The4dotelipsis>	Yeah, move to queue. mar 25 01:09:24 <Darth_Culator>	Not bad for an article that started as a thinly disguised gallery. mar 25 01:09:28 <Ataru>	Voren Na'al mar 25 01:09:31 <The4dotelipsis>	Keep mar 25 01:09:34 <The4dotelipsis>	And move to queue. mar 25 01:09:35 <Havac>	APPROVED = SKIP mar 25 01:09:36 <Ataru>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Voren_Na%27al mar 25 01:09:41 <Ataru>	Oh duh mar 25 01:09:42 <Ataru>	Next mar 25 01:09:42 <LordHydronium>	Voren goes to queue tomorrow mar 25 01:09:47 <The4dotelipsis>	Bah! mar 25 01:09:50 <Ataru>	Yuuzhan Vong War mar 25 01:09:51 <The4dotelipsis>	Stupid timezone. mar 25 01:09:58 <The4dotelipsis>	Remove. mar 25 01:10:00 <Ataru>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Yuuzhan_Vong_War mar 25 01:10:02 <StarNeptune>	remove mar 25 01:10:04 <The4dotelipsis>	Nominated for the wrong reasons. mar 25 01:10:09 <Ataru>	Per 4dot mar 25 01:10:12 <Imperialles>	Remove. Anti-Vong POV. mar 25 01:10:12 <Ataru>	Almost as bad as Ani mar 25 01:10:23 <Darth_Culator>	Bad. Ungood. Not unbad. Remove. mar 25 01:10:25 <Imperialles>	It's written entirely from a Republic standpoint. mar 25 01:10:26 <JainaSolo>	Remove mar 25 01:10:31 <Ataru>	Remove mar 25 01:10:38 <Ataru>	I have 5 mar 25 01:10:39 <Ataru>	*6 mar 25 01:10:43 <Xwing328>	random: Should Timeline of Battles section be moved to See also? mar 25 01:10:49 <Ataru>	Probably mar 25 01:10:50 <Xwing328>	also Remove mar 25 01:10:52 <Ataru>	7 mar 25 01:11:01 <Ataru>	Nom removed unless two want to keep mar 25 01:11:11 <Ataru>	Arbra mar 25 01:11:21 <Ataru>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Arbra mar 25 01:11:27 <Darth_Culator>	Keep. mar 25 01:11:27 <LordHydronium>	Arbra's technically been approved mar 25 01:11:28 <Ataru>	Keep mar 25 01:11:31 <Imperialles>	Keep mar 25 01:11:32 <Ataru>	Has it? mar 25 01:11:34 <Imperialles>	Excellent article mar 25 01:11:37 <Ataru>	I need to add the little thing then. mar 25 01:11:42 <Ataru>	I'll do that after the meeting mar 25 01:11:47 <Imperialles>	But we should get someone to rescan a few of the images mar 25 01:11:49 <LordHydronium>	It has five votes, the label just hasn't gone on mar 25 01:11:50 <The4dotelipsis>	Remove. mar 25 01:11:54 <The4dotelipsis>	I mean, uh, keep. mar 25 01:11:55 <Darth_Culator>	Can we strike Jaymach's objection on Gaeriel? mar 25 01:11:56 <Ataru>	Oh, and Solus had a question for us on Padme Amidala's wardrobe mar 25 01:12:00 <Ataru>	DC: No, sadly mar 25 01:12:04 <Imperialles>	How come? mar 25 01:12:05 <Ataru>	It's not within our power. mar 25 01:12:08 <Darth_Culator>	Why not? It's not rules-based. mar 25 01:12:21 <Ataru>	Rule 15 mar 25 01:12:27 <Ataru>	A terrible misuse, but rule 15 mar 25 01:12:37 <Ataru>	include a reasonable number of images of good quality if said images are available. mar 25 01:12:41 <Ataru>	That Rule 15. mar 25 01:12:43 <Havac>	The full one should be in there somewhere anyway. mar 25 01:12:46 <Imperialles>	It's a terribly subjective iterpretation. mar 25 01:12:49 <Darth_Culator>	How many people agree? mar 25 01:12:52 <Cull_Tremayne>	Jacen: Removed Pre-Republic Era: Kept Mara: Removed Empire Reborn: Kept Freedon Nadd: Removed Stark Hyperspace War: Kept Darth Maul: Removed Second Imperium: Removed Plo Koon: Removed Asajj: Removed Clone Wars: Removed Ferus: Removed Tahiri: Removed Yoda: Removed Star Destroyer: Kept Chiss: Removed Valance: Kept Qel-Droma: Kept Kun: Removed Pellaeon: Removed Solo: Kept Bane: Removed Gepta: Kept mar 25 01:12:54 <Havac>	But I think we could have the power to strike it. mar 25 01:12:54 <Imperialles>	Havac: yes, dupes are the best. mar 25 01:13:06 <Ataru>	We don't. We can't strike Rules-based objections mar 25 01:13:24 <LordHydronium>	Just eliminating the full version entirely is basically excluding information mar 25 01:13:25 <The4dotelipsis>	Bah. mar 25 01:13:27 <Ataru>	Even if that is a crappy interpretation, we can't strike a rules-based objection. mar 25 01:13:41 <LordHydronium>	This is more obvious with Voren: there are no full-body pictures of him as it is mar 25 01:13:45 <The4dotelipsis>	But the rules also say we've gotta have a such and such sized image for the FA template. mar 25 01:14:00 <Ataru>	Talk to Jaymach about it in the main channel mar 25 01:14:04 <Cull_Tremayne>	That's all the noms right? mar 25 01:14:09 <Ataru>	Yeah, hang on mar 25 01:14:20 <Ataru>	Solus wanted us to answer a question for him mar 25 01:14:25 <The4dotelipsis>	Lisa Kudrow, anyone? mar 25 01:14:43 <Ataru>	After some thinking, I got to wondering if I should include a section on the handmaidens' wardrobe. Before my brain exploded trying to describe them, I got a sample section going here. I want to know if this is acceptable in lieu of the article. mar 25 01:14:53 <Ataru>	That's about Padme's wardrobe mar 25 01:14:55 <LordHydronium>	Cull, I don't think you're logged in mar 25 01:15:04 <Cull_Tremayne>	Into what? mar 25 01:15:12 <LordHydronium>	Into the wiki, if that was you who added the results mar 25 01:15:21 <Cull_Tremayne>	Aw crap. :-P mar 25 01:15:24 <The4dotelipsis>	Padme stole Elizabeth Swann's clothes. mar 25 01:15:25 <Ataru>	He wanted to know if he should put a Handmaidens section on the article. mar 25 01:15:27 <The4dotelipsis>	So it's not hers. mar 25 01:15:29 <Ataru>	Well. . . mar 25 01:15:41 <Havac>	No. New article. mar 25 01:15:46 <Cull_Tremayne>	I'll just add the dashes then. mar 25 01:15:50 <Ataru>	I agree. New article. mar 25 01:15:53 <LordHydronium>	It's not under the topic mar 25 01:16:00 <LordHydronium>	So it shouldn't be in the article mar 25 01:16:02 <Ataru>	Gahhh, stop being legalistic! mar 25 01:16:14 <Ataru>	Okay, so not in that article. mar 25 01:16:42 <Ataru>	Is there anything else to discuss? mar 25 01:16:46 <Imperialles>	Yes. mar 25 01:16:54 <Ataru>	Oh yes mar 25 01:17:01 *	Ataru gives the floor to Imp and StarNeptune mar 25 01:17:02 <Imperialles>	Re-featuring old FAs. mar 25 01:17:03 <Ataru>	Go ahead. mar 25 01:17:14 <The4dotelipsis>	Hang on a sec, I've found a loophole. mar 25 01:17:14 <Imperialles>	Here's the scoop: Split WP:FAN in two. mar 25 01:17:32 <The4dotelipsis>	Loophole! mar 25 01:17:34 <Imperialles>	One for FA status noms, and one for nominating FAs to appear on the Main Page. mar 25 01:17:37 <The4dotelipsis>	Where Jaymach can't object! mar 25 01:17:37 <Imperialles>	Silence, you. mar 25 01:17:43 <Ataru>	Silence, 4dot mar 25 01:17:47 <Cull_Tremayne>	I say no to that. mar 25 01:17:51 <Imperialles>	How come? mar 25 01:17:57 <Ataru>	I say no also. mar 25 01:17:57 <Xwing328>	KISS mar 25 01:17:57 <The4dotelipsis>	Isn't Rule 15 talking about quality of file, not quality of shot itself? mar 25 01:18:05 <Ataru>	4dot: Quiet mar 25 01:18:13 <Ataru>	We'll come back to that mar 25 01:18:17 <The4dotelipsis>	I say no, because we don't have enough FAs. mar 25 01:18:19 <Xwing328>	so my answer is no mar 25 01:18:23 <Cull_Tremayne>	I seriously would just like to see them refeatured on the main page if they get back up to par, though some people will disagree. mar 25 01:18:32 <Ataru>	I have no problems seeing them on the main page again. mar 25 01:18:33 <Cull_Tremayne>	Some being most people. mar 25 01:18:42 <Havac>	No split, but no refeaturing. That's been voted against. mar 25 01:18:43 <Ataru>	Treat it as an entirely new nom, except it's not. mar 25 01:18:47 <LordHydronium>	I don't think they should be on the first page again mar 25 01:18:53 <StarNeptune>	Except last time we had a vote on that issue, people were pretty much split mar 25 01:18:54 <Ataru>	But I'm happy either way. mar 25 01:19:09 <LordHydronium>	*front page mar 25 01:19:36 <Ataru>	From Ozzel in the main channel: Inqs: Rgarding re-featuring on the main page: what about a text-only link in the FA box either above or below the current FA? mar 25 01:19:50 <Cull_Tremayne>	I'd be fine with just having a separate section within the FA nom page for re-noms. mar 25 01:19:58 <Imperialles>	As long as we don't get a separate page for refeaturing old FAs I'm moderately satisfied. mar 25 01:20:02 *	Ataru agrees with Cull_Tremayne mar 25 01:20:02 <Imperialles>	Or section. mar 25 01:20:09 <StarNeptune>	I agree with Cull mar 25 01:20:15 <Xwing328>	sounds better that way mar 25 01:20:16 *	Imperialles smacks forehead mar 25 01:20:30 <The4dotelipsis>	Yes. mar 25 01:20:32 <The4dotelipsis>	Good. mar 25 01:20:37 <Ataru>	JainaSolo? Havac? Eyrezer? LordHydronium? mar 25 01:20:48 <Ataru>	Darth_Culator? mar 25 01:20:48 <The4dotelipsis>	That means if detente falls out over Palpatine, I can make sure that it never gets to FA again. mar 25 01:20:51 <LordHydronium>	Yeah, I like that mar 25 01:20:52 <Havac>	Same page, no re-main-paging. mar 25 01:21:18 <Imperialles>	Then the whole "Queue" thing gets silly mar 25 01:21:23 <Havac>	And still needs INQ approval, but at the seven-person, not five-person level. mar 25 01:21:25 <Ataru>	Consensus seems to be "Keep on a new section with FA nom page, re-nom'd articles don't appear on Main Page again" mar 25 01:21:27 <StarNeptune>	Should we hold another vote on the re-mainpaiging? mar 25 01:21:41 <Ataru>	Star: It couldn't hurt. mar 25 01:21:44 <Darth_Culator>	Feh. mar 25 01:21:48 <StarNeptune>	Last one is over a year old mar 25 01:21:49 <Cull_Tremayne>	I'm pretty sure that most are against re-mainpageing. mar 25 01:21:53 <Xwing328>	no - this isn't a democracy :P mar 25 01:21:57 <Ataru>	lol mar 25 01:21:58 <Imperialles>	If it keeps you from making the worst section ever, yes. mar 25 01:22:05 <Ataru>	We is teh evil. mar 25 01:22:11 <Ataru>	Never forget that! :-P mar 25 01:22:22 <The4dotelipsis>	Ah, yes. My guiding principle. mar 25 01:22:23 <LordHydronium>	If restored FAs go on the main page, I demand a "shame" section for when they get stripped! mar 25 01:22:24 <Imperialles>	Yes, but we is not the stupid. mar 25 01:22:28 *	Imperialles punches hole in wall. mar 25 01:22:37 <Ataru>	Imp: You're outvoted, my friend mar 25 01:22:47 *	Imperialles cries in a corner mar 25 01:22:55 <The4dotelipsis>	Oh, oh, oh, wait! mar 25 01:23:00 <Ataru>	What??!! mar 25 01:23:01 <The4dotelipsis>	Can I add something to the agenda? mar 25 01:23:04 <Imperialles>	Yes. mar 25 01:23:04 <Ataru>	Yes. mar 25 01:23:09 <Ataru>	Since I did already :-P mar 25 01:23:12 <The4dotelipsis>	Uhm, archiving FA noms. mar 25 01:23:16 <Imperialles>	Yes! mar 25 01:23:17 <The4dotelipsis>	Like on Wikipedia. mar 25 01:23:18 <Ataru>	Yes mar 25 01:23:21 <Ataru>	DO it mar 25 01:23:22 <Imperialles>	I have a grand plan, old bean! mar 25 01:23:24 <Havac>	Yep. mar 25 01:23:26 <Imperialles>	A grand plan! mar 25 01:23:28 <Ataru>	We already do it with the Inq pages anyway mar 25 01:23:29 <LordHydronium>	sounds good mar 25 01:23:30 <The4dotelipsis>	And having links on the article's talk page. mar 25 01:23:34 <Ataru>	Yes mar 25 01:23:36 <The4dotelipsis>	To each archive. mar 25 01:23:43 <Imperialles>	4dot: I'm improving the talkheader! mar 25 01:23:45 <Imperialles>	For that mar 25 01:23:47 <The4dotelipsis>	This way, little dickheads won't go nomin Anakin every month. mar 25 01:23:50 <Xwing328>	Sounds good, the system might need to be worked out though mar 25 01:23:58 <Ataru>	4dot: Remember, this is being logged :-P mar 25 01:24:02 <The4dotelipsis>	Imp: Can we have the archives of a talk page in the talk header as well? mar 25 01:24:06 <Imperialles>	Yes. mar 25 01:24:07 <The4dotelipsis>	Ataru: I know. mar 25 01:24:12 <The4dotelipsis>	Yay! mar 25 01:24:15 <The4dotelipsis>	Template Black Magic! mar 25 01:24:24 <Imperialles>	As well as all the "Part of Project Fanboys" things mar 25 01:24:28 <The4dotelipsis>	But I'm not good enough to do it. mar 25 01:24:32 <Imperialles>	I'm on it! mar 25 01:24:34 <The4dotelipsis>	I'm very, very badly organised. mar 25 01:24:35 <Ataru>	Excellent. mar 25 01:24:42 <Ataru>	Consensus was reached fast on that one mar 25 01:24:45 <Cull_Tremayne>	Alright, any additional agenda? mar 25 01:24:50 <Imperialles>	After this, WookieeNews will be overhauled. mar 25 01:24:51 <The4dotelipsis>	If we were really good... mar 25 01:24:51 <Ataru>	none from me mar 25 01:24:59 <The4dotelipsis>	We could also archive all the old noms. mar 25 01:25:06 <Imperialles>	That's the plan, sparrow. mar 25 01:25:10 <Cull_Tremayne>	I nominate an end to this meeting. :-P mar 25 01:25:21 <Ataru>	Seconded mar 25 01:25:21 <Xwing328>	Remove meeting mar 25 01:25:22 <The4dotelipsis>	Kudos to Hydronium for Trioculous. mar 25 01:25:25 <The4dotelipsis>	Sp? mar 25 01:25:30 <Cull_Tremayne>	Meeting adjourned