Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Osvald Teshik


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Osvald Teshik

 * Nominated by: Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 19:26, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Another Imperial FA nom. And yes, I know the quote isn't good, but it's the only in-universe quote on him.

(5 Inqs/1 Users/6 Total)
Support
 * 1) —Tommy9281  [[Image:Red lightsaber.png|20px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 16:29, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) More minor Imperials!  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  19:28, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Good stuff. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 17:10, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) DC 22:50, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:08, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 01:16, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) In my opinion, too short.  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( Oya Manda! ) 19:33, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *The article needs to over a 1000 words, and when I did a word count, it was over 1000. It is not too short. DC 19:39, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) **There's not a lot of info on him in the listed sources to begin with. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 19:36, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) **If it's over 1000 words, it's not a valid objection. Anyway, most noms usually get expanded a little bit during the review process, so it should be fine. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 21:03, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) *It's 1,022 words as it stands, which is fine. Your "opinion" is irrelevant. You can do the smart thing and strike your objection yourself, or the Inquisitorius will strike it for you. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 02:52, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) From the Green Grassy Field of Chack Jadson:
 * 7) * Do we have a date on when he was sent to Hapes?
 * 8) **Not to my knowledge. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 12:01, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) * Any more battles you can link to in the intro?
 * 10) **If one exists for his engagement with the Hapes fleet, I could always like that. Otherwise, probably not. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 12:01, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) ***I'm afraid you'll have to create a link, and make an article for it. You can leave it as a stub, just make a minor battle article for it.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 15:29, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) ****Done. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 15:41, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 13) * "He was captured by the Alliance and executed for his actions. Before dying, he responded with mechanical laughter." I’d recommend combining these two, and changing the wording a bit.
 * 14) **I'll see what I can do. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 12:01, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 15) ***Done. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 12:07, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 16) * "Teshik failed to rescue Veshiv and deal with Vedij." Could you use a verb besides deal, as it was just used?
 * 17) **Done. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 12:07, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 18) * "...successor to the first Death Star destroyed above the gas giant Yavin." Is this bit necessary? If you’re using it for word count, then I understand, but if not, I’d suggest removing it.
 * 19) **I can probably make due without it. With it, there's 1,044 words, so it shouldn't make a difference if I remove it. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 12:01, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 20) ***Hmm, it's 1,022 words, not 1,044 words, but done. Just barely over 1,000 now (1,002 to be exact), but I'll add more when I add context on the four people you requested. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 12:05, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 21) * Context on Valance and Kligson. Lennox and Steele too.
 * 22) **I'll get to this later; I'm going to be out-of-town for the majority of the day. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 12:07, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 23) ***Almost forgot about it, but done. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 14:46, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 24) *  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 01:53, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 25) From the moffship of AdmirableAckbar:
 * 26) * "being executed for his actions" &mdash; this isn't strictly true. He was executed for his rank more than anything, I think, so this part should probably be made more ambiguous.
 * 27) **Removed "for his actions." Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 15:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 28) * I'd like a little more added to the beginning of the bio; state that he was a Human and a member of the Imperial Navy prior to 2 BBY, when he was appointed as a Grand Admiral, etc. Also, if you wanted to bump up the length of the bio a bit more, you could mention the significance of the role and that Palpatine had trust in him, etc.
 * 29) * Mention that it was his duty to keep the Core Worlds safe.
 * 30) **Done. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 15:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 31) * This isn't an objection, but just something you might like to add. The Bacta War establishes that Imperial military regulation meant that Navy personnel weren't allowed to have beards/mustaches, yet from the picture it's clear that Teshik had a rather prominent beard and mustache. Might be worth noting.
 * 32) **Hmm, I'm pretty sure Teshik wasn't the only Naval officer with a mustache (Pellaeon comes to mind). I'll see what I can do. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 15:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 33) ***That's a good point. I dug up the quote, anyway: "The touch of white creeping in at his temples had prompted him to grow a black goatee—something that was strictly against Imperial regulations, but not being in the Imperial service anymore, he had no fear of flouting those regulations." It seems to be more about goatees solely, but if you can fit it in, it might make a good addition&mdash;it's up to you.
 * 34) * You should mention that Coh Veshiv was abducted from a space station above Esseles in the Core Worlds, part of Teshik's domain, and that that was why he was tasked with retrieving him. Also, if you could find a date for the abduction, please add it (I think it's 0 ABY or so).
 * 35) **Done. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 15:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 36) * Mention that Palpatine sent Teshik to the Hapes Cluster as an example to the other Grand Admirals that failure would not be tolerated and to keep them in line.
 * 37) **Done. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 15:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 38) * Based on the image, I think a brief description of some of the cybernetics he had on his head would be prudent (new eye, wires going in and out of his head, metal bolts and plates on his forehead, etc)
 * 39) **Done. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 15:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 40) * It would be prudent to mention that, with the Executor destroyed, Grunger and Makati having fled, and Vader and Declann dead, Teshik was in command of the fleet. Also, I'd like to see mention of the retreat in there, since it's significant that he fought them off alone; Who's Who is very explicit about that, and as the NEC is written IU and by the New Republic, I think Who's Who supersedes it in this case.
 * 41) **Done. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 15:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 42) * A mention of Teshik's tactical nous is needed, either in the early bio, Endor section, or P&T. "As a testament to Teshik's brilliance..."
 * 43) * Also, something about Teshik's dedication and taking his post very seriously, as well as his perseverance and refusal to give up (Hapes and Endor), should be mentioned in the P&T.
 * 44) * I'd like to see the BtS expanded a bit; start off with a paragraph explaining who created him in what work and when, and then that he wasn't mentioned in the EC but was given a backstory in Who's Who, etc.
 * 45) * There's a few bits missing from Dirty Dozen&mdash;"Teshik never doubted the good of the Empire," "[Palpatine] threatened Teshik with the loss of important parts of his anatomy (particularly his head) if he didn’t deal with the problem," "His hollow and synthetic laughter in response to the accusation was the saddest and most rancid sound the presiding Rebels had ever heard."
 * 46) * Also, if you could drag another paragraph of two out of it, I'd like to see the Bio subsectioned: "Grand Admiral" and "Battle of Endor" or somesuch.
 * 47) **Good stuff. Great character. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 14:56, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 48) ***I'll get to the rest later; I was leaving just when you posted. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 15:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 49) ****Great work on the objections; everything was addressed exactly as I'd wanted. :-) The subsectioning and extra P&T paragraph also greatly improves the article's aesthetics. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 17:10, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 50) DC
 * 51) * "He was captured by the Alliance, and before being executed, he responded with mechanical laughter." He responded to what and to whom?
 * 52) * "The irony of this did not escape Teshik, as his last words before his execution were mechanical laughter." How are words formed from mechanical laughter?
 * 53) * Shouldn't the last paaragraph of the BTS be sourced?
 * 54) *Good article Tranner. DC 22:32, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 55) ** First two All objections resolved per IRC discussion. DC 22:44, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 56) Toprawa:
 * 57) * This needs some kind of minor descriptor, either for the FarOrbit or the captain. FOr example, the renegade Captain Whoseits, or the Rebel ship FarOrbit, something: "For failing to recover Advisor Coh Veshiv from the crew of the Far Orbit and deal with its captain, Dhas Fenoep Vedij"
 * 58) **Done. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 00:00, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 59) * The BTS "Cut content" section needs to be written from an IU perspective, per our CT.
 * 60) **Done. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 00:00, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 61) * Brief descriptor for context please: "plundering of the Ringali Shell"
 * 62) **Done. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 00:00, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 63) * Please order the Source list by correct OOU publication date. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:43, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 64) **Done. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 00:00, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

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