Talk:Luke Skywalker/Archive3

Image.
Should the Image of Luikie currently up be his Main Image? I rememb4er the old one that was up there and frankly it looks alot better then his one IMO Valin &quot;Tnu&quot; &quot;Shido&quot; Suul 16:27, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I've reverted it, whoever changed it did so without asking. Jedi Dude 17:04, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Can it be changed. That pic is not up to date, but this one is.  Anakin Solo Jedi (Hero to the Enemy)[[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 18:45, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Then how about this one.  Jaina Solo  Goddess Stuff 19:03, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Too close. Too much head. Policy goes for full sized promotional first. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 19:05, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Well I guess Anakin was right there aren't good pics of this guy. It is up to the users to vote.  Jaina Solo  Goddess Stuff [[Image:Jbig3.JPG |20px]] 19:08, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * When did the current one become so horrible? -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 19:10, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * He looks so far away and Mark looks different somehow. Alright I have one more image to show and then we vote.  Jaina Solo  Goddess Stuff [[Image:Jbig3.JPG |20px]] 19:11, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Looks the same to me. And that new image is just crap quality. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 19:16, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * How about this: Why don't we just use a picture of the older Luke, meaning the picture that shows Luke at his oldest age, instead? We do that for most of the other articles, so why not this article, Leia Organa Solo's article, and Han Solo's article? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:21, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * That's a good suggestion but the admins or other users might revert. I would have to say the ROTJ promo, it is the only recent image of Luke we have.  Jaina Solo  Goddess Stuff [[Image:Jbig3.JPG |20px]]
 * Then we get the admins to come here and tell us why we can't use a picture of older Luke as the main image. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:28, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * As of yet. I'm considering getting the image at Official Pix and changing the background. Anyway, if we were to characters at their oldest then Anakin would be from ROTJ as would Palpatine. Also, Han, Leia and Luke don't change much, hell, at all between the three movies so there isn't any reason and it's just easier to give it the look we're accustomed to. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 19:29, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * True. Perhaps make it "The character at his/her prime" for the main image (if possible). Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:30, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Use the one at Official Pix then.  Jaina Solo  Goddess Stuff [[Image:Jbig3.JPG |20px]] 19:31, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * If that were the case then Obi-Wan and Yoda would have the younger image. Also, we'd have to stay within movie images. It simply wouldn't look good if we have a major movie character with a n artists depiction. Just give the okay for Official Pix image and I'll get it (you'll also get a new Obi-Wan image as well). But I need either administrators okay or a good amount of people. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 19:38, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Then present it at Senate Hall, that would most likely catch their attention.  Jaina Solo  Goddess Stuff [[Image:Jbig3.JPG |20px]] 19:49, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok that would be good.  Anakin Solo Jedi (Hero to the Enemy)[[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 19:51, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * In whatever case the picture shouldn't be just changed by people without a decent vote, so im reverting it for the time being. Jedi Dude 16:03, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Voting
Image 1


 * 1) Red Head Rider 18:35, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) lalala_la

Image 2
 * 1) Adamwankenobi 01:48, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Image 3
 * 1)  Jaina Solo  Goddess Stuff [[Image:Jbig3.JPG |20px]] 01:43, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

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Comments
 * Whoa, whoa. You jumped the boat. First off, the old image isn't nominated and second off, I'm still awaiting the one from Official Pix. Give it time. The article isn't going anywhere. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 01:56, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
 * You mean you ordered it. Alright I give it time.  Jaina Solo  Goddess Stuff [[Image:Jbig3.JPG |20px]] 23:21, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I have some images I would like to volunteer:

Nah. I like the cropped one Redemption posted. -- Ozzel 02:10, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, I give up. Just keep the image as it is.  Jaina Solo  Goddess Stuff [[Image:JainaPurple.jpg |30px]] 02:14, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

FINALLY!
*dances on Luke's bones*

No, seriously, he was a great character, but all great characters eventually jump the shark, and the Big Three did that long ago. Maybe before NJO, even. This image is great news. - Sikon 05:50, 9 September 2006 (UTC) we dont know if he died, only that he merged with force. knowing lucas that is probably what happened.
 * But it has still yet to be revealed how he dies. Adamwankenobi 05:53, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * We've known he was dead in Legacy for some time. QuentinGeorge 05:57, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * He doesn't look old so it means he must have died some time in the Legacy of The Force series.  Jaina Solo  Goddess Stuff [[Image:Jbig3.JPG |20px]] 14:14, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * It doesn't mean he dies in LotF although it's certainly a possibility. Force ghosts dont always look exactly the same as when they died. I mean look at the end of the 2004 DVD of RotJ with it having Anakin from the RotS time period, so it's too early to say that he must have died in Legacy of the Force. Elephanto 16:13, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * That could be explained by Anakin reverting to how he looked before he fell to the dark side, though I don't think Force ghosts are anchored to their residual image. Note both Anakin and Luke wear robes we never see them in during their lifetimes, so it seems there's an extensive wardrobe up in Jedi Limbo ;) - Kwenn 16:17, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Although those robes do look like the ones Luke is wearing in some of the NEC pictures. Plus in a lot of the novels he's described as wearing "Jedi Robes" without any specific statement of what color they are so he may have worn something like that in NJO DN or LotF, so it's not quite as odd as the Anakin at the end of RotJ for me. Elephanto 16:32, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Merged with the Force = died. And Lucas doesn't write the Legacy comic, nor does he write any other book, comic or game. - Sikon 06:29, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * True, but George Lucas does give out guidelines to what is written so he has a hand in everything.RushinSundaws 16:12, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * merge doesnt mean die. in early drafts of SW Obi Wan does this, then returns to the realme of the living. it's a concept that may be revisted with Luke. Luke is still on the no kill list so he isnt killed as we would think in a traditional sense. Considering how powerful Luke is and how powerful he will become, it's unlikely anyone slayed him. Not even Jacen can. Jacen can't and won't. He never had the power and never will. Luke probably merges with the force, being that it is the most powerful tchnique, but it isn't something Luke basher should rejoice in, now he is more powerful than we can possibly imagine.
 * Early drafts aren't canon. And nobody says anyone killed Luke. He may have died of old age. - Sikon 16:50, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed. And really there are more important topics than speculation because that's all this is, about how luke died. Really. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber )

Everybody has blown this way out of proportion. Of course he's dead. He was getting grey in the NJO. They all have to go sometime.--Xilentshadow900 22:54, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yep, tey won't say how he died, because they need to keep that for a novel in the future to shock fans back into things...yes hes dead, like everyone even he must go..treny in death though..Jedi Dude 23:05, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Time will tell what really happened to Luke.  Jaina Solo  Goddess Stuff [[Image:Jbig3.JPG |20px]] 23:18, 13 September 2006 (UTC)


 * What??? When did he die?-138.88.90.164 15:17, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
 * SPOILER

Prediction - Jacen will kill him, and vice-versa. You heard it here first. . .  .  .  03:09, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

The Greatest Jedi of all time?
Luke is obviously the poster child for Star wars and of course is a favorite of most everybody and is arguably the greatest Jedi of all time but if not Luke who? Hes the most famous character in star wars hands down but greatest jedi? im just not sure. -Crion Naxx


 * Ample evidence is provided in the talents and abilities section. Some of the stuff Luke does would have made Yoda and Mace Windu cry themselves to sleep at night. Luke has the potential of Anakin Skywalker, according to George Lucas, and while he didn't have as much formal training, he still has learned enough to be very, very powerful. Luke's combined Force-wielding experience surpassed the equivalent of Anakin around the time he hit 36 (before NJO) if you want to think about it in terms of years of training. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 14:27, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Its been argued that he is the greatest and personally i believe he is and yeah you prove a good point he was an excellent swordsman and his force abilities only perfected as time progressed. -Crion Naxx

Luke is the Chossen One?...but in the Bodo Baas prophecy, the Skywalkers Brothers???...

Romances - Jem Ysanna
In Romances section there is nothing about Jem Ysanna. I think that everyone who read Dark Empire II and Empire's End remembers her. Can anyone write something about her there? --Darth Zjyslav Moose 16:33, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I wrote the Romances section and I've never read Dark Empire. I'll add something this weekend maybe. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 20:25, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah Luke was romanticaly involved with Jem when he was training her. Jaina Solo ( Goddess Stuff ) [[Image:Jaina_sig.jpg|25px]] 12:45, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Lightning and Right Hand
Last I checked, you cannot cast Force Lightning from mechanical limbs, and the cover of Dark Empire depicts Luke gathering it in his right hand which is mechanical. Is that image canon or did the Darth Sidious discover a way for mechanical limbs to project Force Lightning? Or is it Force Lightning? user:Darth Vatrir


 * At the time (in the real world), I don't think the whole thing about people not being able to use Force lightning with mechanical limbs had been established yet.--Darth OblivionComlink[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 18:53, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Fortunately, covers aren't canon - Kwenn 20:07, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 * And that's his left hand. Not his right. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 21:42, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 * No, its his right hand. Look at it from his eyes. user:Darth Vatrir
 * No...when your facing someone, your right is his left. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 19:51, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * In any case, it's the hand he lost to Vader. - Angel Blue 451 (Holonet)[[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] 21:53, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * No....Luke lost his right hand to Vader. Luke is using his LEFT in that cover. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 20:18, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Hold on. Just to be sure we are on the same page, are we talking about this image:



And why is the text getting smaller? -  Angel Blue 451 (Holonet) 21:53, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Oooooooooh. Dammit. This is why I should read carefully next time. I was thinking over the Swarm War cover. Whoops. (Redemption = Stupid) In that case, it's either an error or we can just say it's discharge from his mechanical hand. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 20:28, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree. It isn't really clear that that is supposed to be Force lighting anyway.  I don't think it's worth bothering about. -  Angel Blue 451 (Holonet)[[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] 21:53, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Isn't it possible to use Force lightning with a mechanical limb at the cost of damage to that limb?--Darth OblivionComlink[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 23:30, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with Kwenn and Angel Blue 451. Jaina Solo ( Goddess Stuff ) [[Image:Jaina_sig.jpg|25px]] 23:35, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yep, it might not be lightning, covers are not canon in any case so lets move on... Jedi Dude 18:48, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, all that aside, what could be a possible in-universe explaination. I'm thinking Sidious discovered or created some sort of Sith Alchemy. user:Darth Vatrir
 * IIRC, the Emperor cloned up a new hand to replace the mechanical hand. -LtNOWIS 03:59, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

New pic
Is fantastic! Great work, Solo, and Dooku....I mean IG...eh. . .  .  .  23:18, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Glad I could help, and yeah, it's IG-Prime for the present.-- IG-Prime (Sentience Core)[[Image:Cislogo.png|20px]] 23:21, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, glad I was able to help you. Jaina Solo ( Goddess Stuff ) [[Image:Jaina_sig.jpg |25px]] 23:26, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * But did you bother to have a vote? Geez...reverting until a vote is held. Luke is too much of a major character to just change the image willy-nilly. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 01:24, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * It was discussed on the FA nom briefly, but no official vote was held. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 01:30, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * You don't have to vote. Be bold, right? I suggest we can and should have a more detailed discussion here, however.  - breathesgelatin Talk 04:22, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I guess so, if not here than on a Senate forum.-- IG-Prime (Sentience Core)[[Image:Cislogo.png|20px]] 04:41, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I like the ROTJ image that was wrongly removed. .  .  .  .  09:03, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * This topic was already discussed in the Senate Hall. According to some users there is no official policy for main images. Jaina Solo ( Goddess Stuff ) [[Image:Jaina_sig.jpg |25px]] 12:08, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * There is now a vote in the Senate Hall.-- IG-Prime (Sentience Core)[[Image:Cislogo.png|20px]] 12:43, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Form IV
Is it just me, or is Luke's sabre style more Form IV than Form V by the time of ROTJ? He has the same "ready-stance" of Yoda and Qui-Gon...both Form IV practitioners, and he does a few of the characteristic Form IV spins... .  .  .  .  07:20, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Nope, the thing is his style is heavily improvised, but has the core chracteristics of Form V Jedi Dude 09:54, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Ugh...the whole Sabre forms thing is rubbish, but there are a lot of cosmetic Form IV characteristics. .  .  .  .  10:10, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Luke didn't really have a whole lot of formal saber form training. Also, Vader's opening stance was not the Form V stance in either Episode IV, V, or VI. OOU, they hadn't been invented yet. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 14:53, 23 October 2006 (UTC)