Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Ugor


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Ugor

 * Nominated by: ~ SavageBob 02:02, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Greetings in the name of the Great Brophet Botib (may his membrane squish with zealous wrath for eternity!). It has come to our attention that your humbly insignificant little holosite has granted "Featured Articleness" to a biece of unabashed psychological warfare about the pseudobodia of the Anti-Brophet and Most Abominable Enemies to the System of Baradise and its sanctified denizens, the Ugors. After much debate in a joint session of the Holy Ugorian Fleet and the Sacred Office of Brobaganda and Fundraising, we hab decided not to turn our mighty dreadnoughts on your serbers. Instead, blease find our resbonse to said brebious biece of doggerel about said demonic agents. May the Beace of the Redeeming Cytoblasm of the Angel of Taxations and Imborts wash ober you. BulbSav, High Chablain of Incomes, Wages, and Tax Brackets, Most Holy Office of Intrasystem Rebenue and Beatitudes

(5 Inqs/1 Users/6 Total/INQCON 5)
Support
 * 1) Better now after a thinking; I had trouble with 4D and the Technology quote. Sorry I cannot give you an Inqvote. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 13:27, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Thefourdotelipsis 23:38, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) --Eyrezer 03:57, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 4)  Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 13:50, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 5)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  19:55, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 22:13, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Object Comments
 * Farl me, you lodds and azexual pdeacheds:
 * 1) * [An Ugor might] create several smiling mouths to placate a nervous customer. The first part is OK under biology; the second part, the reason moving Ugors to do so, should go under culture.
 * 2) * I've been told that double-linking should be avoided (Link once per intro, per main body, per infobox, in 1st mention). Squib is linked under Biology, Society (Not even the 1st mention in Society), History. Paradise system is not linked under society, but linked later under Institutions and again under History. Prime Mover is linked under Institutions and then under History (again, not 1st mention). Please revise.
 * 3) * Context for Ortolan and for "ugly". I suggest rewording the sentence about "ugly", as it apparently provides the context later.
 * 4) * Droids were regarded as "non-eaters" and thus forbidden aboard Ugorian vessels. Even with their potential as garbage? What does this sentence mean? Are droids considered mere items instead of people (which is the common view)? So droids were not admitted as garbage? What happens if an Ugor finds a droid in a wreckage? Would the droid be disconnected and taken to a vessel, or simply left behind? This apparently contradicts later utterance An additional fee might be levied for any droids in the party [wanting to enter an Ugor ship].
 * 5) * sometime between the battles of Yavin and Hoth. Context or replace with dates (0 BBY-3 ABY).
 * 6) * It was a short leap from eating garbage to worshipping it. Doesn't sound encyclopedic to me. Also, do Ugors leap?
 * 7) * The species eventually turned their archaic but formidable weaponry on the worlds of their system and methodically blasted them into rubble. Uh? Which species? Which system? Squibs, Ugors, Jawas? Who is doing what? Are the Ugors destroying Paradise system? And if they are, why?
 * 8) * The Almas event of 17 BBY is not referenced under History, only under Ugors in the Galaxy. I'd rather see the chronological events under the section for chronological events.
 * 9) * And one more: Is the Almas event related to the Elrood events? I agree not to include Almas (or Elrood) events under History, but at least I think each of those events deserve an individual paragraph, even if both are examples of "Other Ugors scavenged on the surface of worlds." Something like: "In another example of Ugors performing surface scavenging, other Ugor bands operateed on the planet Korad in the Elrood sector.
 * I, humbde believed, tank you vedimasch for youd jenedouz donazion to oud bedobed Hody WookieePdoject. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 08:29, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) **I've tried to address all of your points but these:
 * 2) ***I disagree that "placat[ing] a nervous customer" must necessarily go under "Society and culture". It's important to say that an Ugor can make many mouths, as it's a canonical example of something they can do, but a slight little mention of why they might do so shouldn't be forced out of the section simply because it's not biology per se.
 * 3) ****Ok.
 * 4) ***Can you clarify what you mean by "context" on "sometime between the battles of Yavin and Hoth"? This dating is explained in the footnote and is necessary due to the impreciseness of Scavenger Hunt.
 * 5) ****The reader is not neccessarily familiar with the timeframe of events using battles, particularly as there are several battles of Hoth (two of them after Operation: Skyhook; you should link to the one you're talking about). I think sometime between 0 BBY and 3 ABY is less ambiguous and provides a neutral reference (Ugors do not seem to be very impressed with the Galactic Civil War, not everybody is interested in battles). Although battles happen in a specific date, I don't think an event should be used instead of a numeric date when referring to a chronological moment: You don't say "I was born between the moment of the battle of Casinga and the debut of Garfield", but "I was born in 1978". IMHO.
 * 6) ***The Almas event isn't part of the Ugors' history except that a group of Ugors cleaned up after it. As this is the Ugors' modus operandi, I don't think it really belongs in their history.
 * 7) ****Roger, roger (Please, note I've added one new objection). And kudo again. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:52, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) *****OK, fair points. I've given another shot at addressing your objections. By the way, what do you still object to with regard to droids, Ortolans, and "uglies?" ~ SavageBob 12:35, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) ******Nothing against Ortolans and uglies after a second reading. But I still cannot reconcile the sentence about droids. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 12:41, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) *******What can't you reconcile exactly? I'm confusing myself, I think! Basically, if you come to Paradise as a pilgrim, your droids must stay on the ship, since they are "non-eaters' and are thus not worthy to be pilgrims from the Ugors' perspective. You will also have to pay more for them to have free passage through the system. I would assume that droids would be allowed on Ugor ships as salvage, but no instance of this exists in any source, so it would be speculation to say as much. ~ SavageBob 13:17, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) **Thanks for the review! Very thorough. Let me know what you think about the few points of disagreement. ~ SavageBob 09:24, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 12) Four Dot
 * 13) * Is the Ugor homeworld really "unknown," or is it just unidentified?
 * 14) * Even though I'm sure that's what is said in the original source, I'd suggest qualifying the use of the word "exotic," with "considered to be," as I'm sure they weren't exotic to themselves. :P
 * 15) *Tis all. Thefourdotelipsis 01:54, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 16) **Can you clarify what the difference would be between "unknown" and "unidentified"? I'm sure it's one or the other, but I'm not sure which! ~ SavageBob 14:22, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 17) ***Unknown means that no one knows about it. :P Unidentified just means that it doesn't have a name. Thefourdotelipsis 23:42, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 18) **OK, I've made a stab at the "exotic" thing, and the Galaxy Guides do indeed say that their homeworld is unknown. ~ SavageBob 04:33, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 19) Eyrezer:
 * 20) * Can you clarify what you mean by "sliced up" in the intro? --Eyrezer 04:43, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 21) **The original source says, "Using their primitive but powerful weapons, the Ugors slowly sliced apart every planet in their home system, bit by bit, over a standard century." Do you think more needs to be added to the intro about this? ~ SavageBob 06:39, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 22) ***I think it was much clearer in the body of the article. If you could make it more like that, perhaps. --Eyrezer 07:34, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 23) ****I'm trying to keep to the point in the intro, but is it any better now? ~ SavageBob 10:41, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 24) * "Sometime during the Galactic Civil War, however, a Squib named Slythor arrived on the world and took over one of the salvage yards. He declared himself "Highest Exalted Ruler of Korad" and used Squib henchmen to enforce access to the planet.[48]" Can you make the connection between this and the Ugor more explicit?
 * 25) **I gave it a shot. Better? ~ SavageBob 06:39, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 26) ***Much better. --Eyrezer 07:34, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 27) * I'd appreciate busting the redlinks in the Appearances section --Eyrezer 00:22, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 28) **Working on it. I can't promise anything on "Hyperspace WayStation," since I haven't been able to get my hands on a copy, but I can do the "Ellusive" one. ~ SavageBob 06:39, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Having read this, I'd love to see you tackle the barri. They sound intruiging. --Eyrezer 00:30, 30 May 2009 (UTC)