Talk:Padmé Amidala/Legends

So what's her name?
Thanks! WhiteBoy 22:21, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * First: Padmé, Middle: Amidala, Last: Naberrie
 * or is it like the Pope where her "official" name is Amidala.
 * I think that her official name was only Amidala during her time as queen (maybe?). I'd say that "Padmé Amidala Naberrie" would be her official name. Unfortunately, this would result in virtually every link to this article being via a redirect. This wouldn't be the end of the world, though. It would be the same sort of situation as what you did with X-wing starfighter. (Of course, there's always her married name of "Skywalker"... buahaha). -- Aidje 23:44, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * It's hard to say without knowing the tradition of the Nabooo. Most state names are kept until death, but with the peculiar Queen process of the Naboo, it is difficult to say. How is she refered to in EPII? I forget if they call her Senator Amidala. If so, it is safe to say that she would drop Naberrie entirely, or put it inbetween Padmé and Amidala. A seperate issue is whether she took the name Skywalker, or if Nabooian or Tatooinean culture encourage/accept that practice. Does a source list her with Skywalker at the end of her name? --SparqMan 02:47, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Birth Name = Padmé Naberrie. Royal Name = Amidala. Senatorial Name = Padmé Amidala QuentinGeorge 08:57, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
 * So if the head of the article says "Padmé Naberrie Amidala Skywalker", and we use the married names for Leia, why not Padmé? --SparqMan 18:50, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Since her marriage was secret, I doubt that she changed her name to Skywalker. That would be a dead giveaway. – Aidje talk 19:33, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree and unlike Leia, we have no reference of her being refered to or prefering to include her husband's name. I think Skywalker should be struck from the article top-line. --SparqMan 19:46, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Successor in the Senate
I am unaware of any source that says that Jar Jar succeeded Padme as the Senator for Naboo. As such, I'm removing it. If anyone can come up with a source (rather than mere conjecture) for where this comes from, I'll add it back in. QuentinGeorge 06:11, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

Padme Length of Life?
I am confused as to the length of Padme's life. We were lead to believe in Return of the Jedi, that Leia recalled her mother (she stated that she was kind, beautiful and sad) and that she died when Leia was very young, suggesting perhaps that she lived the early part of her life with her. However, Padme dies at Leia and Luke's birth, making it impossible for either child to remember her. I thought perhaps Leia was refering to her adoptive mother, but this cannot be accurate, as her adoptive mother died when the planet Alderaan was destroyed (and when Leia was grown). Has anyone else noticed this, and can perhaps shed some light on this matter? Could Leia really have remembered her mother from such an early age?
 * Has it been confirmed that her mother died with Alderaan, and not of some other cause long before the loss of Alderaan? Because this is the only solution that has made sense to me. JSarek 00:12, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
 * No, it's not been confirmed that Breha died with Alderaan's destruction. As JSarek said, Breha could be the mother Leia remembered. Or it could be some mysterious Force-related memory. QuentinGeorge 06:09, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I gathered it was Force related- Padmé was in a pretty emotional state when she gave birth, resulting in Leia sensing it unconciously. --Fade 07:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I, too, took it as being Force-related. I believe her mother was killed in with the Alderaan explosion, and our own article says as much.  WhiteBoy 07:59, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

As to the question of this being a force related power it is a two sided problem. On the one hand I am geared toward this perhaps being a force power of infant awareness that Leia has come to develop and perhaps even passed on to her children. One of whom while still in the womb even managed to tip the balance in a force duel between Luke,Leia and the clones of Emperor Palpatine in "Planet of Twilight". I feel that this might also explain why Leia would exhibit so much of Padme's politically defiant personality, being that perhaps during her childhood she was abled to retain a force impression of her mother..this impression may have been imprinted in the force by the powerful connection Vader bonded with Padme as they both lay unconscious..the one that killed her. How luke was unabled to retain or gain such an impression and Leia was is not quite understandable to me perhaps it is a feminine bond that mother and daughter shared. Also Why Vader was unabled to sense the family connection from Leia during her capture on the Death Star, but was abled to do so with Luke in "Empire Strikes Back" is also a part of this issue, or did he just know from his use of the skywalker surname (did Vader personally kill the Lars and get the information about Luke?) It begs the Question what role does gender play in the developement of force senses? On the other hand How Leia could possess such power and still not be aware of her heritage(indeed she rejected her heritage and consequently, her force power even after her it was revealed to her due to her hatred of Vader) is also an issue with this theory, but not so much so since a force sensitive is powerful no matter if they are or are not aware of it.

Replacement?
"Due to tension between George Lucas and Natalie Portman in 2003, Lucas reportedly asked Keira Knightley (Sabé from Episode I) if she would be willing to play Padmé in Episode III; she declined, however, as she was busy filing King Arthur (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0349683/combined)." What is the source for that?
 * It's a ridiculous rumour from IMDB and should be removed. Natalie was always contracted to do all three. QuentinGeorge 22:47, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * IMDB relies on (often unverified) user submitted data, and therefore should NOT be regarded as confirmation. This rumour should be removed unless a reputable source (like the OS) agrees with it. QuentinGeorge 04:06, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * Not only IMDb reported the rumor, Keira Knightley herself even said something about it. And it doesn't even matter if it was true or not - the point is, there was a rumor that existed that was circulated at some point, and as such, deserves mention. Kuralyov 04:12, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * Then show me the source that says it then. QuentinGeorge 04:36, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * Two minutes of searching gave me this: "...As for Portman, rumors began to circulate that she was unhappy, and looking for a way out of her contract. According to one Internet story, Lucas had even sounded out Keira Knightley about taking over Portman's role for the final film, due in theaters in 2005." If you want the original story on the original page, however, then yiu're welcome to sift through 2-year-old archives.

Like I said, even if the rumor isn't true (it probably wasn't, as you pointed out), the fact that it existed at all means it should be mentioned here. That's all it said, was that it was a rumor. Or should I delete all unsubstantiated rumors mentioned on various articles here? Kuralyov 05:17, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I think it should be deleted from this page. Dylankidwell 02:46, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Cause of death
Did Padmé die from anything Anakin did? Sure, his Force choke may have injured her momentarily, but it hardly seemed enough to threaten her life. It seemed more likely that she died from birth complications, or other mysterious circumstances. I did not read the end of the novelization with great care, and may have missed the explicit explanation. Any help? --SparqMan 00:51, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * I figured it was a broken heart. Lame, I know, but it apparently does happen. And it's apparently reversible, too. I guess the med droids weren't aware of this research. :-) – Aidje talk 04:20, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Or to put it another way "she gave up the will to live". In other words, her injuries weren't life threatening, but the stress of the events of the past weeks led to complications. QuentinGeorge 06:06, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Appearances
You know, for someone so important, she's really not in a whole lot of sources. Kuralyov 02:34, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Palace portrait
So Leia walks past a picture of Padme, and still doesn't recognize her in 25 years later? In fact, should't Padme be some sort of mythical hero in Imperial Culture, do to bringing about Palpatine's election? -- SFH 15:02, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * Unseen Queen actually clarifies that Luke and Leia knew who "Senator Padme Amidala" was, they just never knew that she was their mother. QuentinGeorge 20:14, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * And yes, I agree that Amidala's history and association to Palpatine (and the fact her rebellious leanings remained secret) would have made the Empire laud her as a martyr figure for propaganda purposes, and no doubt that is why Palpatine hung the portrait in the Imperial Palace. QuentinGeorge 08:50, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * That's a nice theory. But, it it seems that the people of the GFFA circa 0 BBY and beyond simply forgot about here. Nobody ever mentions her in the OT except for that scene in ROTJ when Luke asks Leia if she rememebers their mother. Jed-eye 11:52, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * I have been wondering about this. If Leia claimed that she remembered Padme in ROTJ, why is it she can't recgnize her mother in that portrait? Besides, haven't Leia noticed that this "Senator Padme Amidala" kinda looks a lot like her mother whom she claimed that she could remember as "beautiful, kind, but sad"? Even though she said that she could only remember her "just a little bit". - Divinity 11:59, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, you sort of answered your own question there. It's unlikely that Leia had a perfect image of her ingrained in her head; and if she did it's even more unlikely that any woman would look the same when comparing what she looked like when giving birth (not to mention crying for Anakin), and what she looked like when posing for a senatorial portrait. --MarcK [talk] 12:05, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)

"well-toned stomach"
"Padmé had a close encounter with a nexu that ripped the buttom part of her shirt, completely exposing her well-toned stomach."

Is this really necessary???


 * Nope, but fun to think about! ;) Adamwankenobi 12:42, 15 Nov 2005 (UTC)