Talk:Star Wars: Battlefront II

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Anikan Skywalker on Mos Eisley
On a Mos Eisley Assalt (Heros and Villians), Anikan is listed as a villian. The problem is that the name Anikan Skywalker was only used when he was a jedi. Only Darth Vader should be listed as a villian. - siteoftupac

Fett Canon Issue
"In the Kamino Uprising, Boba Fett makes a reference to hunting down Han Solo, which is inconsistent with the time period. This could be explained away by claiming he referred to another smuggler." Given Fett and Solo's shared histories, is this really contradictory? I seem to remember Solo and Fett having some run-ins during the Han Solo trilogy. Cutch 19:51, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, now that I looked, it seems Fett & Solo met after 12 BBY. So, I guess my question is, how do we know the uprising took place at that time? Cutch 19:54, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Problem
For some reason, I can't see the archives. If it could be fixed somehow, I'd gladly appreciate it. Admiral J. Nebulax 20:38, 21 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Never mind. I can see them now. Admiral J. Nebulax 20:38, 21 Dec 2005 (UTC)

The battle takes plae approx. 20 yrs after the creaton of the 501st clones, coherent with the time period when jabba would have issued the bounty

Canon
Just to remind everyone, only missions in the Rise of the Empire mode are canon - Instant Action levels are not canon. Hence, there's no Battle of Dagobah or Second Battle of Polis Massa - Kwenn
 * Hopefully this will stop Ty from screwing up this Wikicity, again. Admiral J. Nebulax 17:11, 26 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, the canon rule is as long as it doesn't contradict with other sources, it's canon. Battles from Instant Action that don't contradict with anything are canon.-Bly1993 22:50, 29 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, no. Instant Action battles are ones that someone selects to play. They don't exist, except inside the game. Therefore, since they never took place in-universe, they are not canon. Admiral J. Nebulax 23:52, 29 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Would BF1 instant action levels be canon? Most of them are real battles.--Bly1993 20:33, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * No. Admiral J. Nebulax 20:36, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * I believe all, or at least most of, the items in the "Inconsistencies With Star Wars Canon" section are based on levels, characters and events in the Instant Action mode - to reiterate, that is not canon anyway - Kwenn 18:39, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * For the record Canon does not equate to things in the game related to game mechanics IE: Amount of troopers on the Tantative IV or B-2 droids are weaker in the game than in the movies. It seems to be unregistered people who post this though so i don't know what can be done Phillowe88 13:20, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

I've got rid of a load of items, though even the ones I left on could still be considered gameplay mechanics - Kwenn 21:49, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't think we should include BF/BF2 stats in battle articles. X-wings and Y-wings in the fight between the Tantive IV and Devastator seems stupid to me. YIIMM 21:25, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

That's what they made story mode for, gosh people, take a clue. This game is for fun; for people to make up their own stories, and you are taking all of the fun out of it. User: Super Destroyer 92 15:21, July 3, 2006

DVD-Rom Problem
It's not. K? 23:16, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
 * The back of the game (Xbox version) case has the DVD-Rom logo, but when I put in in my computer it just plays a little XBox intro and then tells me that it is an XBox disc that needs to be put in the XBox system to play. I have a DVD-Rom drive. What is the point of saying DVD-Rom if it can't be used? The same problem happened for the first Battlefront as well. DarthMaul431 05:08, 30 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * I think all of the cases have the DVD-Rom logo. I'll have to check on that. Admiral J. Nebulax 12:58, 30 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, Battlefront I and II are the only XBox games that I own that have those DVD-Rom logos. DarthMaul431 00:44, 31 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * I decided to send an e-mail to the LucasArts support website. Hopefully I should get an answer within the next two days. DarthMaul431 02:03, 31 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * I meant for all systems. Admiral J. Nebulax 02:06, 31 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Just because it says DVD-rom doesn't make it PC compatible. It just means that the PS2/Xbox foratted discs were put on bigger, DVD discs. 23:59, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Please do not continue to debate this as it is a very simple and easy thing to figure out. If it would be able to work on the compy, it would say so.

Soldier Names

 * At the end of any battle, Story mode or Instant Action, Names of soldiers are listed. Should they be added as seperate though short articles?  Technically since the names are in a canon game, they are canon characters. DarthMaul431 02:35, 3 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Battlefront II goes against canon. Those names were just made up for the sole purpose of the game. Admiral J. Nebulax 20:53, 3 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't see why not, the characters would be part of official continuity unless they either a) do something that goes against a non-game source, b) do something that is credited to a non-game character. VT-16 19:30, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * You could create a mini-section in BF2 to show the names of all the people in each army, although I believe this to be a waste of time.

Title
This is very minor, but should this page Star Wars Battlefront II be moved to Star Wars: Battlefront II (title with a colon, currently a redirect) to match Star Wars: Battlefront and Star Wars: Battlefront III? --Xwing328 18:53, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)


 * Good find and good idea. --Esplin 00:14, 6 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree. I'll move it right now. Admiral J. Nebulax 00:17, 6 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * It has been done. Admiral J. Nebulax 00:18, 6 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks --Xwing328 00:36, 6 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * No problem. Admiral J. Nebulax 00:38, 6 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Pics of Kit and Asajj
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/s/starwarsbattlefront2/20060125-expansionpack.htm Kalas Grengar 03:31, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

http://img.gamespot.com/gamespot/images/2006/news/01/27/starwars_screen003.jpg http://img.gamespot.com/gamespot/images/2006/news/01/27/starwars_screen002.jpg http://img.gamespot.com/gamespot/images/2006/news/01/27/starwars_screen004.jpg


 * looks wonderful, though kit wearing no shirt looks kinda foolish on a cold planet as Rhen Var... Master Secura

whats with his saber being all electrical and wavy?

Locations Confirmed
http://theforce.net/videogames/story/Premium_Xbox_Live_Content_For_Battlefront_II_96728.asp

Cheat Codes Not Working
Have you ever wanted to respawn over and over just because you couldn't get the cheat codes to work? I've figued out what the problem is! ... You see, when you start the first battle, it lets you enter one cheat code. Let's say I used inf. ammo. Then, if I want to use another one, I have to change anything in the game settings. Let's say I pause, go to game options and change my view to FP. I then would change it back (if I wanted to) after inputting the cheat.

---By the way, the JubJub cheat only works on the first Battlefront.

Um you can enter more than one code at the one time. Unpause the game then pause again and enter the next code. I frequently use Inf Ammo and Invincibility Phillowe88 07:19, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Republic Victory II frigate?
Does the Victory II-class frigate appear in the background in the Clone Wars space battles as well? VT-16 19:32, 27 February 2006 (UTC) No. If you go up close using the Inf. Health cheat, it is a low-res  Venator  class.

TIE fighter/interceptor missile inconsistency
The Millenium Falcon never shot concussion missiles, but it is in Star Wars Rogue Squadron III. User: Super Destroyer 92 15:25, July 3, 2006
 * TIE Fighters and TIE Interceptors don't shoot missiles, so don't delete that under the "Inconsistencies" section. 'Nuff said. Cutch 17:35, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Yep.
 * The Millenium Falcon stats given in the old West End Games table-top RPG book list the Falcon as having concussion missle launchers, though I'm unsure as to how "canon" this would be. User:Jwebb13 21:15, August 17, 2006

Inconsistencies... how far is too far?
Okay, so how far is too far? The latest addition reads "Jango Fett carries one gun instead of two". But really, we could keep going with this forever: "Luke Skywalker never visited Mygeeto", "IG-100 MagnaGuards didn't participate in the defense of Kashyyyk", "B-1 Battle Droids are far too weak", "Yoda never really said 'Proper training you lack' when killing a stormtrooper". When are game mechanics - including the omission of (come on!) one of Jango's pistols - not seen as flying in the face of canon, but existing for simplicity? Cutch 01:42, 29 March 2006 (UTC) Why don't we make a new page for the inconsistencies? Darth Cynic 8:50, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Hello??? The problem's getting worse... Cutch 19:51, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * What problem? The only problem is with you guys taking this game to far, instead of having fun playing it. How would you feel if you were playing a game where the enemy had cool gadgets, and you only had laser cannons? User: Super Destroyer 92 15:29, July 3, 2006
 * I consider it the inconsistances to be when the directly go against the story and not game mechanics ( like x never visited planet y) I notice though that it's Anon's who add most of the stuff. Maybe change the section to inconsistances with the Star Wars canon story? Phillowe88 20:10, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Lord Almighty, thanks for the reply/edit. It seems like everyday some new bit of triviality gets added. Cutch 20:22, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll try to check it every second day or so to clean out any irrelevent facts, it's a bit of a pet peeve for me (adding useless info in the wrong place) Phillowe88 20:51, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Phillowe88, you still with me? The pandemic is growing; every idiot with a copy of the game is trying to find some triviality. Let's keep it big, people! Cutch 15:34, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry got saddled down with overtime at work. More money for me though. I'll keep an eye out although some updates don't appear even though i'm watching this. Phillowe88 16:45, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree, before the list gets even bigger DAWUSS 13:25, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Enjoy the new Inconsistencies page. Darth Cynic 10:15, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Heros: Darth Vader
Anakin Skywalker should not be named in the Heros section under Galactic Empire since he has become Darth Vader by this time. Rather, there should be a distinction between Vader with and without his armor. Here's how I think it should read:

-Darth Vader (without armor) (Force Choke, Saber Throw)—Mustafar

-Darth Vader (with armor) (Force Choke, Saber Throw)—Tantive IV, Hoth, Dagobah, Endor, Bespin

or

-Darth Vader (Force Choke, Saber Throw)—Tantive IV, Hoth, Dagobah, Endor, Bespin (with armor); Mustafar (without armor)

Personally, I like the latter. Also, someone should think of a better way to describe the whole armor thing. With/without armor sounds kind of lame to me but it is all I could come up with.

The name given in-game in Anakin Skywalker

B-1 Battle Droids
I have so many times, even at thier official site, that the B-1 Battle Droid is playable; which is not true! It is impossible to do so. Since when could you play it?!Star Destroyer 2500 20:19, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Are you kidding me? Of course you can play as B-1s! Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 21:51, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The CIS Marines are B-1s, as well as every other CIS trooper except the Supers, Destroyers, and MagnaGuards. Cutch 21:56, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Well you cant play them on a land battle.Star Destroyer 2500 22:08, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, it's true that the standard CIS soldier is the super battle droid (B2), and although you can play forms of B1 battle droid, you cannot ever play as the normal, no-markings standard infantry b1. Lucas Wolfdog 01:51, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * its still a B1 battle droid though Jedi Dude 13:03, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Darth Maul
Why is Darth Maul in battlefront 2 if it takes place between episodes 2-5 and since Darth Maul is there why isn't Qui-Gon Jinn?

-I also agree that they should put Qui-Gon Jinn on Battlefront II. It just seems like the game is missing something.- (Edited by Mandalorian tank)

Lockup
Can we lock this article up? We get more crappy edits from anons here than on just about any other page. Everyone keeps adding new crap (especially under the Inconsistencies section). Por favor? Cutch 23:24, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, please do so. Battle speech section? Bleh.

Han solo glitch
I have a problem, whenever I play as Han Solo and I switch to my fusion cutter I cannot switch back to my blaster. Does anybody know how to fix this glitch?
 * You might have better luck at a message boards like at TheForce.Net or StarWars.com. Save space in Wookieepedia's talk pages for canon-related issues. Randy Starkiller 15:19, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

PSP Version
Hey, has anyone here played the PSP version? It is the only one I have played and when I started reading this article I thought I had the wrong game. I did not know that it was a less detailed version. It doesn't have a story mode or as many characters. So, should a section be added to the article to show this difference? Because in my opinion, it is a major difference. --Nomi Qel-Droma 18:15, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


 * All of the hero characters are available in the Hero Assault mode in Mos Eisley.--Darth Oblivion 03:12, 30 July 2006 (UTC)


 * My complaint about the PSP version of Battlefront II is that I'm considering getting a PSP sometime next year so I can take the game with me wherever I go, but the portable version doesn't give you the full game experience like the one I have for the Xbox does (The portable edition doesn't have the "Rise of the Empire" mode, it doesn't allow you to play the actual heroes and villains (except for during Hero Assault mode), and about five or six planetary battlefields and about 80% of all space battlefields are missing!). I know that this is due to the maximum storage capability of a UMD game disc (which is much smaller than an Xbox or PS2 game disc or a CD-ROM), but I'm still disappointed than I can only get the full game experience when I'm at home. Supi&amp;Oola 00:03, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Hero weapons
It should mention that non-Jedi hero characters also have weapons that conflict with canon. For example Boba's flamethrower was an E-ll blaster rifle and Jango's was an E-5. Perhaps instead of saying "The hilts of lightsabers for numerous characters (including Dooku and Yoda) do not accurately reflect the hilts of the films" it should say that numerous characters have weapons that don't accurately reflect those in the films.

Clans
Is the listing of the so-called "Major Clans" really necessary? I don't think it's really anything else besides advertising. And it doesn't really help the article, as I see it. --FireV 18:14, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * That and the majority of edits to the article that I've seen seem to be anonymous IPs adding and removing clans from the list. -- I need a name 22:43, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Just to add: I'm a thinkin' that those IPs really have no intention to add to our Star Wars Wiki and just want to give their clans some popularity by feeding off of Wookieepedia's. If that's the case, I further my suggestion that section should be deleted entirely. --FireV 02:26, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Spoiler
Is the spoiler template thing on here really needed? It's been here for a while. NKSCF 01:58, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

What's the deal?
Why does each clone, Droid, and Impiral have indavidual articals for each class but not the Rebels!? What's the deal!? Valin &quot;Tnu&quot; &quot;Shido&quot; Suul 20:06, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Here's The Deal
Valin "Tnu" "Shido" Suul, you were mistaken. The current revision of the article makes mention of all four factions; you must have been looking at some previous version of the article, perhaps one of the vandalized ones. Supi&amp;Oola 21:54, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Is it just me...
Or does the entire article seem like some promotional advertisement more than an informational encyclopediatic article? Examples: It seems now you can teach an old game mode new tricks with SWBFII's enhanced Galactic Conquest mode. ; Their ranks consist of the following units, so be careful:, etc... you can find them almost everywhere in the article. Jorrel Fraajic 20:47, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

"Inconsitencies" section turning into a joke again
This needs no explanation. And why the Hell is it right at the top of the article? --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 13:52, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
 * This is basically my problem with this article. Way too many edits, and not even really neccessary ones. I'm actually thinking of nominating this on IDrive. Jorrel Fraajic 15:20, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Truly major inconsistency with SW canon
There is one extreme mistake in Star Wars continuity that someone should really add into the "Major Inconsistencies with Major Star Wars Canon" section of the article, and it involves almost the entire layout of the Coruscant: Jedi Temple battlefront. I have seen an authentically detailed layout of the temple's interior in the reference book Star Wars: Complete Locations, and the locations of the Archives Library, Communications Center, Training Veranda, Briefing Room, Corridor, and Front Atrium in the game are very adjacent to each other compared to how distant from each other they are in the reference book layout that I've personally studied. Also, there is a totally absurd inconsistency located within the most major part of the temple: as seen in the movie, the Jedi Council Chamber is located at the top of one of the four outer spires of the temple's exterior (requiring an elevator ride) and it has 12 seats; however, in this game the Council Chamber is located just at the top of a short stairway in the middle of the Corridor near the Front Atrium's entrance, meaning that the chamber is located within the temple's base as opposed to at the top of a spire, and four of the twelve seats on the Jedi Council are completely missing from the chamber (there are eight seats total in the Battlefront II version of the Council chamber as opposed to the complete twelve). Also, on the other end of the atrium opposite the Council chamber, there is a huge balcony, and technically (canonically) all balconies in the Jedi Temple are located on the outside of the spires, and none are located outside the temple's base, so from what I can tell, the entire layout of the Jedi Temple interior is not what it canonically should be, and this anomaly within the Star Wars canon really should be mentioned about in the article's respective section. Supi&amp;Oola 18:11, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, right now there's a huge issue with all the inconsistancies that aren't exactly inconsistant. However, your Jedi Temple debate is completely correct. In fact, most of the maps on BF and BFII are relatively incorrect for gameplay reasons - could you imagine boarding a lift with enemies in it? - but it still means it's inconsistant. I do like how you showed your sources and reasoning though... wish others would do that. Jorrel Fraajic 18:23, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reaction to the comment I posted, and now I'd like you to do me a favor: Edit the canonical inconsistencies section by adding in all the info about the Jedi Temple battlefield and its completely incorrect layout, since I consider that anomaly the most inconsistent of them all. And by the way, I wouldn't mind entering an elevator with enemies in it, because, if you recall from Episode III, while Obi-Wan and Anakin are aboard Grievous' ship at the beginning of the movie during the battle above Coruscant, after escaping a droideka (destroyer droid) ambush and entering the elevator that leads to the location of the captive Chancellor (which, coincidentally, is also at the top of a spire), they find a whole party of battle droids telling them to "drop their weapons", but then they immediately pull out their lightsabers and wipe out the entire party of droids guarding the elevator's interior! Hence, I wouldn't mind it if I had to board an elevator at the Jedi Temple and upon entering it, I found two or three Jedi guarding it, since then (mostly due to the "Invincibility" cheat code I've been using) I'd be able to take out those Jedi just as fast as Obi-Wan and Anakin were able to take out those battle droids in the ship's elevator, even though in my case the soldiers would be armed with lightsabers, not blasters! It would be absolutely no different from the scene in the movie where the elevator was heavily guarded (unless I weren't using any cheat codes!) So my last thing to say in this reply is: I can imagine boarding a "lift" with enemies on it, if it had actually been done in the movies before (it would still be much quicker to take the stairs as you do in the game, but it wouldn't be the canonical way!). Supi&amp;Oola 20:09, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

ATTENTION
Alright, I'm about sick of all of these "Inconsistancies" that random IPs are adding (See history). First off, many of these so-called "inconsistancies" are only in the non-canon (read it: NON-CANON) sections of the game - Galactic Conquest and Instant Action. The only truely inconsistant things are those inconsistancies found in the Rise of the Empire single-player storyline. Second, (and I'll use the example of the Dragonsnake isn't on Dagobah inconsistancy), just because something isn't present (dragonsnake) doesn't mean it contradicts canon. In the same way, anything in GC or Instant Action should not be considered inconsistant, because GC and IA are NON-CANON. This is why this article has been nominated for Improvement Drive. Jorrel Fraajic 02:08, 10 December 2006 (UTC)