Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Tycho Celchu


 * ''The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a featured article nomination that was successful. Please do not modify it.

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Support
 * 1) Havac 09:07, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) The blood coming from my eyes after reading this is a price well paid :P  Greyman ( Paratus ) 21:04, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Blarg! --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 03:16, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 4)  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 05:43, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 5)  Jaina Solo ( Talk ) [[Image:Jainasolosig.gif |25px]] 22:47, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) I Gonkified it, so I'm gonna VOTE, dammit!  Gonk  ( Gonk! ) 23:08, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * 2) * Reference 62 is broken. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:14, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) **Fixed. Havac 18:16, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) * "Horn's escape from Lusankya, not dead, cleared Celchu's name completely." Reword this, or at least do something with that "not dead" part.
 * 5) **Reworded. Havac 17:39, 14 February 2008 (EST)
 * 6) * "As they arrived, however, he was captured by storm commandos; he attempted to warn off the Rebels. Luke Skywalker, commanding the group, decided to go attempt a rescue." Reword this, it reads awkwardly.
 * 7) **Reworded. Havac 17:39, 14 February 2008 (EST)
 * 8) * The bit about Seerdon is speculation. Remove it unless sourced, and none of this "well, logically, he would have to be," reasoning. I want a canonical explanation.
 * 9) **It doesn't say anything not supported by canon. He was in the unit. The unit did something. It doesn't take a genius to put two and two together. No one's saying he was canonically for sure in it, just that he was in the unit in that time period and the unit did a thing. Battleground: Tatooine doesn't say he's romantically interested in Winter, either; it just shows him saying things which could be interpreted as hitting on her. We use our brains and come to a conclusion. This is less bold a leap than that because all I'm saying is fact 1 + fact 2 = probable but not guaranteed. Havac 17:39, 14 February 2008 (EST)
 * 10) * "The battle went well for the odds against them and the unit escaped, but Fett evaded the Millennium Falcon." Reword.
 * 11) **Reworded. Havac 17:39, 14 February 2008 (EST)
 * 12) * I hope for your sake that starfighter combat is linked here somewhere. Goodwood
 * 13) **It does. Havac 17:39, 14 February 2008 (EST)
 * 14) * "With the cover of the Rogues and the opportunistic intervention of Darth Vader's forces against his longtime rival Xizor, they were able to flee." Who is they?
 * 15) **"...Skywalker went to Coruscant to rescue her with Rendar and Calrissian. During their escape, Rendar..." What you quoted is the next sentence. I've defined they as Rebels to please you, though. Havac 17:39, 14 February 2008 (EST)
 * 16) *You're not even close to the Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day part. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 22:01, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 17) **I didn't really expect to be. Havac 17:39, 14 February 2008 (EST)
 * 18) Imperialles's image objections:
 * 19) * Image:Celchu-Academy.jpg: This one should be obvious.
 * 20) **Rescanned by Red. Havac 01:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 21) * Image:Green3Unedited-ROTJHD.jpg: Distorted.
 * 22) **Blame ILM. That's straight from the best version of the film that's publicly available. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 18:41, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 23) ***Bah! --Imperialles 21:42, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 24) * Image:Tycho Endor.JPG: Poorly scanned.
 * 25) **Rescanned by Red. Havac 01:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 26) * Image:Tycho rescues Wes.JPG: Distorted.
 * 27) **Rescanned by Red. Havac 01:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 28) * Image:HospitalofDeath.jpg: Covered with distortion.
 * 29) **Rescanned by Red. Havac 01:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 30) * Image:Celchuunderattack.jpg: Some .jpg artifacts.
 * 31) **Rescanned by Red.
 * 32) * Image:Celchu-vs-Phennir.jpg: .jpg articacts.
 * 33) **Rescanned by Red. Havac 01:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 34) * Image:Tycho-Masquerade.jpg: Scanning artifacts.
 * 35) **Rescanned by Red. Havac 01:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 36) * Image:Tycho-funeral.jpg: Distorted.
 * 37) **Rescanned by Red. Havac 01:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 38) * Image:Tycho-guns.jpg: Severely distorted.
 * 39) **Rescanned by Red. Havac 01:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 40) * Image:TychoCelchu swenc.jpg: Stretched out.
 * 41) **Rescanned by Red. Havac 01:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 42) * Image:Tychomugshot.jpg: .jpg artifacts.
 * 43) * Image:TychoBilbringi.jpg: Quite distorted.
 * 44) **Rescanned by Red.
 * 45) * Image:BattleofLiinadeIII.jpg: Distortion.
 * 46) **If there's still any distortion, it's Random House's fault. If it's good enough for their marketing department, it should be good enough for us. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 03:07, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 47) * Image:Celchu-B-wing.jpg: .jpg artifacts. Some cropping issues as well.
 * 48) * Image:Ushersofdeath.jpg: Artifacts.
 * 49) **Rescanned by Red.
 * 50) * Image:Celchu-Darklighter-Karrde.jpg: Artifacts.
 * 51) **Rescanned by Red.
 * 52) * Image:Tycho Celchu helmet.jpg: Poorly scanned.
 * 53) **Rescanned by Red. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 03:07, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 54) * Image:Celchu-cockpit.jpg: Artifacts.
 * 55) * Image:Tycho-kiss.jpg: Severe distortion.
 * 56) **I cleaned this one up somewhat myself. Still could use Redification, but it's better than many comic scans that have passed FA before. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 03:07, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * --Imperialles 16:42, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) *Damn, I meant to mention in the comments . . . I've already asked Red to rescan these images. Though you're going to have to take up Culator's screenshot with him. Havac 18:16, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) First glance, "Antilles stayed behind to coordinate the attack until the last minute while Celchu made sure a shuttle was ready was for Antilles, who wifwhen contact was lost with Antilles."  -- "wifwhen"??? Who to the what now? I couldn't quite figure out what that sentence was actually supposed to say. --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 04:17, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Redlinks. Darthchristian 16:18, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) *And we should be under the limit now. Havac 00:10, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) I'm going through this bad boy in parts, so consider this Round 1:
 * 6) * Provide a brief description of who Winter is in the intro. "Rebel agent" should probably suffice
 * 7) **In. Havac 05:48, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) * Please specify Imp-II class: "Celchu was assigned to the Star Destroyer Accuser"
 * 9) **Specified. Havac 05:48, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) * If possible, I would like to see a mention of what call-sign he flew under with the Rogues
 * 11) **Specified. Havac 05:48, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) * I don't necessarily disagree with adding this, even though it is speculation, but if you're going to do that, you need to add all Rogue involvement during this time. Service during the Thila campaign specifically comes to mind, which is outlined to a degree in, among other sources I must assume, Galaxy Guide 3: "Celchu was also likely present in the squadron during the time of its campaign against Moff Kohl Seerdon"
 * 13) **I'll take a look tomorrow. Poke me on IRC about it. Havac 05:48, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) * The way this is worded makes it seem as if it was a task force, when it was in fact the entire Alliance Fleet. Please reword: "Rogue Squadron was assigned to the Rebel fleet assaulting it" Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:24, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 15) **Source that claim, because we definitely have other Rebel fleet actions going on in that period. Havac 05:48, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 16) Round Two:
 * 17) * Please specify ship class: "destroying their flagship carrier Flurry"
 * 18) **That's . . . deeply extraneous. It just bogs down the sentence in irrelevant detail. If you want to know what class it is, you click on the link. It's not relevant to Tycho what class it is. Havac 22:06, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 19) * Please remove this unnecessary extrapolation: "though he may already have known her from earlier in the Rebellion"
 * 20) **Eh. It's not so much extrapolation, as they clearly know each other. I've made it more clear. Havac 22:06, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 21) * I'd rather see this worded as "They infiltrated the system": "were infiltrated into the system"
 * 22) **Changed it. Havac 22:06, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 23) * Provide a brief description who Isard is: "where Ysanne Isard broke her captives" Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:06, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 24) **Done. Havac 22:06, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 25) * Add "the" before all ship names in canonically-appropriate instances, per voted-upon policy. I'm not striking this until this is changed. This isn't your interpretation or preference, Havac. This is policy.
 * 26) **See policy, from consensus, which was later reinforced. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:05, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * 27) ***Actually, SillyDan, who closed the last vote, has since realigned the MOS to reflect his understanding of the actual consensus that came out of the vote. And it says, "Go with canon." Havac 19:30, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * 28) ****To clarify, Havac, does that mean that we go with "the" in front of the ship names that are canonically paired with "the" (which would be most of them, including "the Millennium Falcon") but we omit it in front of ship names that usually don't have it in canon (such as Binder)?  Gonk  ( Gonk! ) 15:34, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * 29) *****So far as I can tell. Havac 21:19, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * '''Approved by Inquisitorius 03:20, 20 March 2008 (UTC) (UTC)
 * Would be the longest FA were it to pass. Uh, I mean, it's a really quick read and you should all read it quickly and support. It's no burden at all. Havac 09:07, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Holy crap. This thing is freaking huge. Spelling and redirects check out now, but I haven't checked for link redundancy yet, because the motherkriffer has 730 links. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 04:17, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Not an objection, Havac, but a little request. Would it be possible to put in links for more of the various battles Tycho fights in? Other than in the Thrawn campaign section, I couldn't find many. In the Confederation-GA War you could have the Battle of Centerpoint Station (Confederation-Galactic Alliance War), the Attack on Toryaz Station etc which atm are not linked, and major stuff like the Battle of Borleias in the Yuuzhan Vong War as well. Earlier on, the Battle of Liinade III isn't either. I hate to think of them being orphaned on Wookieepedia's virtual knowledge map. Also, to remove the Tawaler redlink, you need to put one in for Siron Tawaler. Have a good day. Harrar 14:57, 16 February 2008 (UTC)