Wookieepedia talk:Community Portal

Registration Requirement
Moved to consensus track. - Sikon [ Talk ] 05:35, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

About parodies...
Would it be too far out of line to include some of the, erm, X-rated parodies out there? Honest question. Thanos6 03:43, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Not speaking on behalf of the wiki, but personally I would accept it if the article was not graphic and vulgar far beyond what we've had already. -- Riffsyphon1024 03:49, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Right, I'd keep the text and descriptions fairly "clinical," and obviously no pictures, but would links to the actual material (with warnings) be allowed? Thanos6 04:06, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Just what is this anyway? -- Riffsyphon1024 07:16, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
 * If you're talking Star Wars hentai, then absolutely not. --MarcK [talk] 05:31, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Image file names
Is it possible to change image file names? -- Doo Doo 07:50, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
 * No way that I know of. It'd just have to be a copy, re-upload, and add the old one to WP:IFD.  WhiteBoy 08:23, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

New Weapon Template
Could someone make a template for weapons please? For example it would say:
 * Manufacturer
 * Model
 * Size
 * Capacity
 * Faction

Or something similar. Just a thought. -- Doo Doo 09:06, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Here's one - Template:Weapon, - You can change the colors and everything if you want. I was just thinking red (blood) since weapons are violent. *edited so that it would stay in this talk section* --Xwing328 22:23, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

I applied the template to DC-15 blaster and DC-15s side arm blaster. I think model should be removed since its rather redundant with the name. Any comments? --Xwing328 02:56, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Email validation
Just an FYI for everyone who has been around more than a month... when Wikicites was upgraded to the newer version of MediaWiki, the new version apprently has a new requirement to authenticate your email address. So, please go into your Preferences page and authenticate your email address. That way other Wookieepedians can email you. :) Thanks!  WhiteBoy 23:49, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Ok, so I broke it.
Looks like I broke the General Gallery page. by putting to much stuff in it? Can I add a General Gallery 2? --Razzy1319 04:42, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Award Proposals
I made two new awards in the Award Proposals section a few days ago. Seems fairly dead over there so if some people could go over and weigh in on them I'd appreciate it. Perhaps, dare I say, even approve them :) --DannyBoy7783 23:46, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Featured Article
Everyone should go nominate/vote for future featured articles, cuz after tomorrow, we have none in the queue for next week. So unless you want to go a week (or more) without a FA, go forth and vote/nominate! :) StarNeptune 00:54, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Even better, we should get off our behinds and actually write some. ;) --Imp 00:56, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

12 and 13 ABY
These two years need a LOT of cleanup; their year entries duplicate a lot of stuff from one another, and many of the page entries refer to events happening in one year while other entries mention the same events happening in the other year. Thanos6 17:44, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed! I'll append two fixes from when I brought this up bak here. --SparqMan 18:32, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Improvement Drive
This may be a bit preposterous, but for a week, instead of having an article improvement drive, have a book (or comic) improvement drive. This could possibly help clean up hundreds of articles, if we focused all our efforts at once. For this to happen, we would have to agree on some sort of manual of style and decide the series naming issues mentioned in an above post. I started a sample manual of style here—WookieeProject Published works. Any thoughts? --Xwing328 22:02, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I looked at your project page&mdash;under plot summary it says articles should be in the present tense, but according to the Manual of Style aren't all IU articles supposed to be in the past tense? Your idea isn't bad, though you have to consider how many people actually contribute to articles on the improvement drive (not very many). Now subtract those who don't have the comic/book in question, and you may be left with only a handful. RMF 22:17, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
 * You're right. The tense should be in past for the Plot, but the Publisher's summary is usually in present tense. I don't even know if plot is needed though, since it usually just repeats the summary. A handful of people still might be able to get a lot done...who knows. --Xwing328 22:30, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
 * The tradition in literary criticism is to describe the plot in the present tense, though. This is a summary of a book, too, not a summary of its events.  There is a difference; for example, if a book has a flashback section, or characters only learn about some event that happened earlier later in the book, those events wouldn't be listed chronologically, but rather where they're told in the book.  Since this isn't an in-universe article, I'd say leave the summary in present tense, and leave past tense to the articles that discuss the events themselves in-universe. - Lord Hydronium 22:53, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Also, book articles are not IU. They're OOU. --SparqMan 06:56, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * How about we simply work in chronological order? The first comic chronologically is the "Tales of The Jedi: The Golden Age of the Sith" graphic novel/comic book series. I encourage anyone and everyone who has it to go to the talk page and begin to build up the article, as well as other articles that are sourced in that material. After that, we can move on to "Tales of the Jedi: Fall of the Sith Empire" until we reach modern times. I regret to say that I don't have any materials from that timeframe, but if we get a good response I will post consistently on each current talk page, and will work on any materials I do have. Please post any responses to this idea on my talk page as well, where I will introduce this project--Erl 18:26, 1 March 2006 (UTC)


 * We've started the project here - Published Works Improvement Project - if you want to help. --Xwing328 02:48, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Stub template idea
I got an idea for the generic "stub" template, since we use SW stuff for a lot of the other ones. Seems a shame to leave it so bland.

How about "Aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper?" Thanos6 05:52, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll second that. Lonnyd 10:27, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Major wampa revelation
Hey guys, I was planning on writing up an article on the wampa ice cave and I was flipping through Inside the Worlds of Star Wars: The Original Trilogy and I noticed on the battle of hoth fold out page they say Luke and his tauntan were attacked by a male wampa but that Luke was in the cave of a female wampa when he woke up. This means a few things: 1)Wampas have some system of pair bonding establsihed. I doubt the male wampa killed the tauntan and left Luke there only to have a female wampa find it on her own so I propose that the male brought it back to the cave where the female was staying and then he left again. 2)The Luke Skywalker's wampa article needs to be rewritten to take this information into account. I wanted to let everyone know about this because these are changes one could think are fanon but it is sourced and unless I hear any objections I'm going to go ahead with the various changes.--DannyBoy7783 17:37, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I decided to just add the wampa cave article info I've been writing into the wampa article itself. It didn't need its own article I decided.--DannyBoy7783 17:39, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I was rereading the actual wampa article and there are phrases like "Wampas were usually solitary creatures" and "wampas dragged the carcasses back to their icy lair". I'm sure there is sourced info for these statements such as the Essential Guide to Aliens or something like that. This concept of male wampas hunting or defending the female's cave kind of goes against this so before I start changing the wampa info I wanted to get some suggestions on how to fold this new info into the article.--DannyBoy7783 17:44, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
 * So I went ahead and made the changes. You can check them out here: Luke Skywalker's wampa and Wampa. If anyone cares let me know if this is sufficient/acceptable.--DannyBoy7783 18:52, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe you should have done this on the talk page for the wampa. -- Riffsyphon1024 07:04, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I could have but I figured this was more appropriate. I originally intended to make a wampa cave article so that would have involved 3 pages. I think discussing it here was fine. Thanks though...--DannyBoy7783 23:48, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Search function
What's the deal with the search function on the left? It seems to have had a strange change made to it. Kuralyov 18:49, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I like it. :) --Imp 18:51, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't. I just did a search for "Battle of Concord Dawn" and it told me that page didn't exist. Kuralyov 22:45, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't like whatever was done either. I'm having a harder time finding articles. One-Arm doesn't show up if you search One Arm. That's pretty dumb...--DannyBoy7783 23:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Please see Wikicities:Help:Searching and report any problems to Zwitter who coded this new feature for us. Angela (talk) 07:23, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * There are two functions. Go sends you directly to a page with the URL you typed in, search searches for relevant pages. Unless you are certain of spelling, use Search--Erl 18:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Semi-protected pages
I was browsing wikipedia and found this: Semi-protection policy. It denies edits from anon users and new (registered less than 4 days) users on certain (admin-specified) articles. Given some of the recent repetitive vandalism (San Hill comes to mind) this seems like a decent compromise. Thoughts? RMF 03:05, 12 February 2006 (UTC) Sounds good. Mindgiver, 5:36 PM, 12 February 2006
 * Also, I noticed that on San Hill that the page was protected but lacked any sort of explanation. How about placing a template such as this on vandalism-induced protected pages? RMF 03:12, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I explained why I locked it on the protection log, but since the lock is only temporary (i.e. I'm lifting it in a few hours), I saw no need to put the template up. StarNeptune 03:18, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I know why, in fact, I was involved in some of the reverts myself&mdash;but a random reader who wanted to contribute to that article might not. It's not a big deal though, especially if you going to lift it soon. RMF 03:31, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Check This Out
Hey everyone, i was not quite sure if this was the place to post this message but whatever. I just wanted everyone to check out my user page, and give me some feedback. I spent many a hour working on the fan fiction stuff. I consider my user page my practice run, for editing and helping out with wookiepedia pages. I have been checking out the site for the past few months and i think its awesome. Thanks

http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/User:Dan%27oc_Linsae

So i guess u can post ur comments on this page...
 * Hopefully you can do the same for actual articles now. -- Riffsyphon1024 07:05, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
 * He's got the Featured Article template on there...should that be allowed? CooperTFN 07:23, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Nope. --Imp 07:49, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

yeah, that was an accident that i put it on there
 * I'll bet. http://media.ign.com/boardfaces/20.gif CooperTFN 05:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

fine u want my explanation, i was having trouble with the character template, the info was not lining up correctly,to fix it i copied and pasted Ulic Qel Droma's character template onto my page, at that time he was the Featured Article of the week, and thats how it happened and i just did not take the few seconds to take it off, end of story

Wiki-bug?
Check out this weirdness: when I try to go to http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/RSS_Integrity, as listed on the category page, it gives me a 404. When I go to http://starwars.wikicities.com/index.php?title=RSS_Integrity, it works. I haven't seen the wiki do this with any other page. I just turned "RSS Integrity" into a redirect and edited the only page that links to it, so it won't show up anywhere to confuse people. &mdash;Darth Culator  (talk)  14:48, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
 * ....What the crap? We need Angela or somebody to explain this. --MarcK [talk] 05:24, 17 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Weird. I'll get Jason to have a look at this. Angela (talk) 23:52, 17 February 2006 (UTC)


 * solved. I had redirected URLs with "rss" in them to a specific server to avoid having RSS kill the site. Apparently, I mis-configured it. -- Jasonr 04:18, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Apparently it killed the article, but you saved it. Yay! :P -- Riffsyphon1024 04:48, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Noting the species
I have noticed on character articles that many times, the species of a non-human is almost always specified, yet when the character is human, that fact is rarely specified. I have started editing certain articles to fix this. I think we should specify the species of ALL inhabitants of the GFFA, and not assume human superiority. Adamwankenobi 13:08, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * That's why the Category:Humans was added recently :) -Jaymach Ral'Tir 13:10, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm a stickler for the categorization, and recently had a problem with that. When a character is a human and we know their homeworld (and have a category for its inhabitants), should we say, for example, "Categories:Jabiimi, Humans" or just "Categories:Humans?" Lonnyd 10:35, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Next Wookieepedia meeting
Just giving everyone a heads-up that the next meeting will be Tuesday, February 28, 2006 @ 8PM EST (-5 GMT). No one else has called one, and I've been pretty busy lately. But I figure it's about time again. :) WhiteBoy 23:01, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Copyright reminder
I want to remind everyone that we need to respect the work of others, and that it's not OK to just copy and paste articles from the CUSWE or the Databank or wherever. Wikipedia is an exception because it is under the GFDL; so it's OK to copy and paste articles from there as long as you also copy and paste the history page. I've received a complaint from our friends over at TFN about the amount of copying that's been going on. He was actually very cool about it, and I think his main complaint was that his articles were not referenced. Some of the articles he mentioned were obvious direct copy+paste jobs, which is not acceptable. Additionally, I would say that if you use the TFN article as a basis/outline for your article, at least list it in the "External links" section.

So here's a call for help. We need to try to make some head-way on getting our Copyright problems page cleaned up. It's getting rather long, and it doesn't get much attention. Should we make this an WP:ID? Thanks! WhiteBoy 00:09, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
 * After I posted this, I sent a link to the TFN person, and they checked it out. The response was good, and they pretty much agreed with how I stated it.  They don't want mass copy+pasting, but if we use their article as a model/whatever, please link to it in the "External links" section.  WhiteBoy 06:49, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Problems
I have some problems with the Wikicities search engine here. It does not seem to allow you to create new pages through redlinks. Can someone please sort it out? MyNz 8:51, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Ditto. CooperTFN 21:54, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm...worked for me. I searched for "spoon" and it returns "You searched for spoon" which is a redlink that can be clicked on to create the page.  WhiteBoy 04:55, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I think it's because we opted to use the old search format, which lists results the original way, but doesn't offer up the redlink. Is there no way to have both? CooperTFN 05:02, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I remember that is something they had to turn on when we first set it up. So maybe when they switched searches, it reverted back.  How/where did you "opt to use the old search format"?  I looked in Preferences, but didn't notice it.  Did I overlook it?  WhiteBoy 05:10, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah, found it. It's not under user preferences, but the "preferences" link on the search page.  I'll ask.  WhiteBoy 05:12, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Cool. CooperTFN 05:16, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, should work now. WhiteBoy 05:28, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Last names and categorizing
If a character has a hyphenated surname (is that the correct way to say it, btw?), like Leia Organa Solo or Tyria Sarkin Tainer, how are they categorized? By the "first" last name or by the "last" last name? I've seen it done both ways and would like to know if we have a policy on this. --Tinwe 19:08, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Looks like right now Leia is categorized as "Organa Solo, Leia" and Tyria is categorized as "Tainer, Tyria Sarkin." I tend to agree with the way Tyria is done.  Especially because they're not really hyphenated names. WhiteBoy 00:26, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Clarified this on the WP:LG. WhiteBoy 00:34, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
 * In the NEGTC, Leia is listed as Solo, Leia Organa and Mara is listed as Skywalker, Mara Jade, so I took my cue from that. StarNeptune 06:00, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the answers! --Tinwe 13:05, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

New species question
I was at a convention over the weekend, and Tim Zahn was in a RPG. In the game he had Thrawn disguised as a new alien species, but instead of saying he made it up just for the game, Zahn described it as a race that "you haven't seen yet." Since that seems to imply that it's going to be in an upcoming book, probably Allegiance, my question is: should I add it here, under an ambiguously-canon tag of course? Kuralyov 18:22, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
 * It doesn't really fit the tag, as it's not even in a published unlicensed source. I'd say slapping a  tag on it just now and explaining in a "Behind the scenes" section would be the way to go, at least until it's published. -Jaymach Ral'Tir 18:32, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Category for Fanfiction Users
It seems to me that there is alot of fanfiction on user pages, completely noncanon on the wiki, however it dawned on me that maybe we can better connect those with these fanfic bios together via a new category, perhaps a Category:Users with fanfiction, so that their experience here might be better, though I wouldn't want it to get out of control. Thoughts? -- Riffsyphon1024 22:55, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
 * That sounds good to me. Would it be restricted to just users with fanfic bios, though? Kuralyov 23:05, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
 * That's sorta where I'd like them to be, as full stories (or novels as some do) are not really what we'd like to have here, though if it exists already, I can't get the person to remove it and I'll leave it at that. I'd like to note that fanfiction in any form should be kept at a low level, and wasteful use of images should be at a minimum. -- Riffsyphon1024 23:08, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I have created a fanfic bio and the idea sounds fine to me though it isn't the end of the world if it gets shot down (to me anyway).--DannyBoy7783 23:32, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Any other comments? - Riffsyphon1024 23:36, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I created a short Fanfic bio but no images. Can I still keep it? Star Wars Guy 02:28, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * There's definitely a difference between a user who makes contributions to articles while maintaining a short bio on his or her user page (even I do this) and the users who are apparently here solely to write fanfic on userpages. I'm considering making a note on  What Wookieepedia is not about that...&mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 02:36, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * When I was working on the (ultimately cancelled) TFN Webstrips project, I briefly considered making articles for a couple of the prospective characters on subsections of my user page. I think a category would be helpful in keeping track of this type of thing, but do we want to encourage people further? CooperTFN 02:39, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * That is the problem I encountered. Creating it would promote more, though the existence of it would better group those fanfiction fans together. It's categorization in moderation. -- Riffsyphon1024 17:24, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Template question
I'm a little confused about the templates such as character infoboxes. I can go to the template page and see the long code used to make the template but that isn't the same as the text used on an actual character page when you hit edit. So I'm wondering how do I go from a template page such as Template:Planet to a useable bit of text I can fill in the blanks for (such as what you'd find if you hit edit for Obi-Wan Kenobi at the top). --DannyBoy7783 03:20, 22 February 2006 (UTC) {{Planet| image= The ancient Rhen Var Harbor, one of the sites of the Battle of Rhen Var| name=Rhen Var| distance=Unknown| region=Outer Rim Territories| sector=Tion Cluster| system=Tobali system| suns=1| moons=1| And so on. Remember, if you want a field to be omitted from the infobox, leave the value blank, but do not omit the identifier in the actual code. Doing so messes up the formatting. I threw together a basic help page for character infoboxes here, but it still needs some work. Hope I answered your question. RMF 04:38, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
 * When you look at the infobox on the actual template page (we'll use planet for an example), you see a field title (such as "Native species") and a corresponding identifier (in this case, it's just "species"). When you use the template on a page, you insert the identifiers followed by an equals sign and their respective values. This makes it easier to use rather than typing out the entire name every time. Example:
 * On a related note, is there a way to get around the automatic colors? I'd like to add the new boxes to a couple articles, but sometimes the standard color clashes strongly with the image(s). CooperTFN 05:55, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I could add a new parameter for color, but it would require inserting a blank color parameter on all pages that use infobox templates. - Sikon [ Talk ] 14:27, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
 * No, then? http://media.ign.com/boardfaces/9.gif CooperTFN 22:52, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I think I follow you now RMF, thanks.--DannyBoy7783 18:03, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

DCAU Wiki
There aren't any rules about cross-promotion that I'm aware of, so I wanted to take a second and direct people to another Wikicity, this one based on the DCAU - in other words, the shared continuity between the DC Comics animated series Batman, Batman Beyond, Superman, and Justice League, among others. This universe has been growing steadily for almost a decade and a half, and it's been a large part of my life since I was ten years old (to put it in perspective, that's five years before I saw Star Wars for the first time http://media.ign.com/boardfaces/3.gif). The wiki's been there since May, but 90% of the work is still being done by the guy who founded it. While it's quite extensive for an animated series continuity, a DCAU encyclopedia would be a far easier task than the one we're doing here; if anyone out there is a fan of the shows, I highly recommend going over and giving the guy a hand. I know I am. CooperTFN 05:55, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Updating Infoboxes

 * In the recent days, I have updated the infoboxes for a number of characters, planets, etc. and I see that there are many many more that need to be done. Mostly only the infoboxes for the main characters, planets, and such have been updated and I think a note should be included either on the main page or the request page asking everyone to help. DarthMaul431 02:19, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Official Friends of Wookieepedia
I think it would be a good idea to establish - and publicly acknowledge - working relationships with other Star Wars fan sites, in order to further integrate ourselves into the Star Wars community.

This could involve us having a small section at the bottom of our main page, entitled "Official Friends of Wookieepedia", containing links to our Official Friends. In return, all we would be asking for is some sort of endorsement from our Friends; such as a link to us, or a news feature. Or they could even just come to our site and sign our "Official Friends" page :-)

A good place to start would be TheForce.net, which already provides a link to Wookieepedia on every page of the Jedi Council Forums, not to mention Mike Cooper's recent article.

And now that we are about to promote our 1st Anniversary, the timing coudn't be any better :-)

Thoughts? --Azizlight 03:10, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm for it. Which ones would we go to? I have to admit, the only Star wars fansites I really know of are us, TFN, SuperShadow (heh), Stardestroyer.net, and the Dark Horse boards. Dammit, I had an idea and I just lost it. Kuralyov 03:24, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * If SuperShadow puts up a "Friend of Wookieepedia" link, I'm leaving. CooperTFN 07:31, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * You and me both! :p  WhiteBoy 15:28, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I know a way around that Coop, we should have concensuses on what sites should or should not be labeled as official friends. DarthMaul431 21:39, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. I'd suggest it be a nomination process similar to our Admin selection.  WhiteBoy 15:28, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Jedi and categorizing
Another category question popped up while I was roaming through the Jedi character category: If a Jedi is listed in one or more subcategories of the character category (like Jedi Masters, Jedi Generals etc.), do we still list the Jedi in the character category as well? That's how it's done in most cases right now, but it seems kind of superfluous to me... --Tinwe 12:09, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I think if the Jedi can be specifically placed in a Jedi subcategory like Master or General, then it shouldn't be placed in the generic Jedi character category. --Xwing328 23:19, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Dates
Maybe I'm having a change of heart, but another thing has occured to me while on Wookieevacation. Maybe now we can make articles for dates, such as May 19 to denote SW-related events that happen on those days. We do have enough articles for something like this now. -- Riffsyphon1024 23:43, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I suppose there've been enough births, deaths, novels, comics, video games etc to have significant content for each day; only problem would be rounding up all the release dates and such, and even that's rather trivial, so it sounds good to me. --MarcK [talk] 03:21, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Help!
I'm having trouble uploading pictures. Sometimes it works, but it usually says:

"." is not a recommended image file format.

Please tell me what's wrong. Aiddat 21:56, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Are you on a Mac? It sounds like your images have no traditional file type. Their names should end with ".jpg" or another image format. CooperTFN 03:18, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * This is no Mac (it's Windows XP to be precise), and I have file extensions. Hmm, let me try uploading again. Aiddat
 * (A moment later.) NOOOOOOOO!!! This is really strange. I just checked to make sure the extension didn't accidently get cut off when it's actually in the upload thingy.... Is anyone else having this problem or know how to solve it? Aiddat
 * You can email me the pic, and I'll take a look at it. WhiteBoy 15:30, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have Galactic Battlegrounds, and I would be glad to take screenshots for it. Aiddat
 * We don't accept bitmap files (BMP), so I resaved it as a PNG and put that one here - Image:Bursa.png. The other one saved fine for me - Image:OtohSancture.jpg. WhiteBoy 17:10, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. That's strange because jpgs didn't seem to work for me. Aiddat 14:19, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Wookieepedians by region
For those who didn't know... In addition to our Wookieepedians by region page, we also have a Frappr group. Cool! WhiteBoy 16:27, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Colored Image
This relates specifically to Bodo Baas but it could potentially reach farther. I edited this image Image:Bodo Baas.gif so that it would be this image: Image:Bodo Baas color.jpg. Is it usable on the Bodo Bass page? I know fan images are generally frowned upon but it is colored based on a canon image and it is only that: a coloring of an existing canon image. If everyone is against it, that's fine. I just wanted to get some discussion because it wasn't happening at the Bodo Baas page. This could come into play in the future as well as there are other B & W images around here.--DannyBoy7783 18:36, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * For - I like it. Yeah, I agree, it is an edited cannon image, so it's not too different to other images here. As an aside, maybe do some shadowing and highlights? -- 61.69.160.156 00:47, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Infobox templates
I would like to move templates such as Infobox Book to an OOU infobox templates subcategory under Infobox templates.

This could include the following along with many others from Uncategorized templates:
 * Template:Book reference
 * Template:Infobox Book
 * Template:Infobox Reference Book
 * Template:Infobox Reference Book Expanded
 * Template:Infobox television
 * Templates designed around series:
 * Template:Boba Fett Books
 * Template:CWEpisodes

Any thougts? --Xwing328 21:21, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Odd Category Error
This is the list of pages with the Tales1-20 template. According to the markup, it should put every page it's on into Category:Star Wars Tales articles of ambiguous canonicity. Problem is, looking at that category, there are a heck of a lot that aren't. Even odder, looking at the pages themselves with the template, at the bottom under categories it lists that very category they don't appear in. Is it something in the Wiki software that just doesn't categorize them properly or what? It's weirder that it works in some and not others. - Lord Hydronium 11:20, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * The category has been added to the template relatively recently. For the changes to apply, one needs to resave (or edit and save) pages that use the template. - Sikon [ Talk ] 15:21, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Star Wars Tales Infobox
Could someone talented build a lovely Star Wars Tales Story infobox? There are over 100 star wars tales, yet at the moment we're just using a modified comic book one and I think it deserves its own. The fields should include -


 * Issue No.
 * TPB Collection
 * No. of Pages
 * Script
 * Pencils
 * Inks
 * Colours
 * Letters
 * Editor
 * Canon References

Hopefully it would include the title at the top and an image as well. Thanks. KastMorben

Prevent Vandalism
Vandalism has to stop. To prevent it, we should limit editing to signed-on users. Lt. 1993 14:32, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Against. Wikipedia and Uncyclopedia suffer from vandalism much more than we do, but they don't forbid anons to contribute. - Sikon [ Talk ] 14:57, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Perhaps they should...--DannyBoy7783 20:46, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Or perhaps allow all to edit, but ban any vandal, even if minor, right away. Lt. 1993 00:42, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * But then we get Supreme Court battles over what is vandalism, and what was just a 10 year old trying to contribute. Lonnyd 10:43, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Upload File page
Would it be possible to add a paragraph to the upload file page saying that the source of the file and an appropriate copyright tag(with link to image copyright tags) should be placed in the summary for the upload? A lot of people aren't doing that, and haven't done that in the past, and making sure everybody knows they're supposed to would probably help. Yrfeloran 20:30, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * It's possible by editing MediaWiki:Uploadtext. - Sikon [ Talk ] 05:24, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Think an admin needs to do it, though. Yrfeloran 19:10, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * How's that? --MarcK [talk] 19:17, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Yay! We still don't have the mentioned box to check to affirm no copyrights are being violated, but that's a really minor issue - maybe just take that text out? Yrfeloran 19:38, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * How strange...it used to be there. Oh well, removed. --MarcK [talk] 22:36, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Wookieepedia mirror
This wiki apparantly has articles on all Sci-Fi and Fantasy topics. Anyways, a number of Star Wars articles are copied directly from here. See,. They even go so far as copying our talk pages and user pages! See, , , , , , .-LtNOWIS 03:30, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I say let 'em. Their pages are a joke compared to ours (they're missing a ton of images, and their infoboxes are all blank) and the wiki probably gets about 40 hits a month (just look at their recent changes, it's pretty much dead). The user and talk pages is just kind of dumb&mdash;why on earth would they need (or even want) them? RMF 03:33, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * They probably took a database backup from several sites and loaded them on their own server. All the text on Wookieepedia actually compresses to a 10 megabyte file. I downloaded it once, just for fun, and it's actually an ingeniously simple format. &mdash;Darth Culator   (talk)  03:54, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Also -- Riffsyphon1024 17:32, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * One may consider using Template:Usermirror to rectify this problem. - Sikon [ Talk ] 19:26, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * My user page is deleted for some reason. :( --Imp 19:54, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

who owns what?
grettings. i'm currently writing a large series; it consists of 19 2part movies and 1 massive videogame. now, i'm not exactly sure what went down with george and fox and everyone owning what. could someone give me some info on what fox owns of star wars and what george owns.(charcters, titles, sequels, etc.)if i sell my series(i have 5;1 main or anchor and 4 branching trilogies.)to a studio, how can i expect to get screwed? as much info as i can gather would be a great help. also checkout or subcribe to my blogs.
 * A good place to start would be the Empire of Dreams documentary that's on the Star Wars trilogy DVD. It has alot of behind-the-scenes info, though I'm not sure it specifically has what you're looking for. WhiteBoy 20:09, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
 * George owns everything. The prequels were essentially the most expensive independent films ever made. And he doesn't use other people's story proposals; especially not for films. CooperTFN 20:16, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Peer review
I've created Peer review as an experimental page (indeed a shameless copy of the Wikipedia peer review) where people can post links to articles they consider near-feature quality and gather feedback and suggestions for improvement. I hope this can put some tension off WP:FA and WP:ID. - Sikon [ Talk ] 05:47, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Pablo Hidalgo's artwork
There's been some discussion on the Em TeeDee page whether images from this site (drawn by Pablo Hidalgo) can be used on Wookieepedia. I'm inclined to think it's fan art, but everyone doesn't see it that way. Thoughts? --Tinwe 12:42, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Unless the image has been published in a licensed medium, it is fan art. &mdash;Darth Culator   (talk)  13:28, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
 * What if the "fan art" image is much better than the canon option available? Perhaps it is just me but I think the image that was there prior was horrible. Can exceptions be made on a case by case basis?--DannyBoy7783 14:00, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe I'm being paranoid, but I just don't like where that could lead. Even edited versions of official pictures are pushing the limits of canonicity about as far as I'd want to go. &mdash;Darth Culator   (talk)  22:01, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
 * It would appear that the argument is now moot. Imp deleted the image from the wiki...*sigh*--DannyBoy7783 23:50, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Infobox problems
There are two things I've been noticing a lot lately with the new character infoboxes. First, there should not be a blank line after the }} at the end of the infobox and the beginning of the article. That line stays there and makes the text start lower than the image. Second, and maybe this is just me, but I don't think we should blow up images just to fit the infobox. Shrinking is fine, but when you make a picture bigger, it looks crappy. If the image isn't big enough, upload a better one. But for the meantime, just set the width to the image's actual width. Anyone disagree? -- Ozzel 22:07, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
 * You're absolutely right. We found that out the spacing thing on the ship infobox but I don't know how much the character infoboxes are carrying over from that project. And the image thing is a peculiarity of the new MediaWiki software. Under the old version, the software just used the actual size if a pixel size larger than the image was specified, and I wish the new version behaved the same. But you don't need to specify the size if the image is smaller than the size of your infobox, just leave off the "|300px" (or whatever size you're using) in the image link. &mdash;Darth Culator   (talk)  22:41, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup proposal
Can we update the cleanup tag? I have a good idea. There could be a picture of Han and Greedo (who is dead) sitting at the cantina table. A quote above it says "sorry about the mess". Opinions? Lt. 1993 00:48, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah, good point. I think it would work. -- Riffsyphon1024 15:31, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Go ahead. - Sikon [ Talk ] 15:34, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. How does it look? Lt. 1993 20:30, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Meeting has started
Wanna you want to join us for the meeting going on right now? WhiteBoy 01:13, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Now that sounded intelligent! WhiteBoy 23:05, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Monthly Challenge

 * I thought of another possible way to boost our article totals or improve the wookiepedia in general, in the form of a contest. Every month there is a different type of challenge that states a list of tasks to do for that month.  An example of a monthly challenge list could be:

- Create 3 NEW articles containing at least 3 paragraphs. - Add enough images to remove 2 articles from the imageless category. - Create 1 article currently listed as a redlink. - Add more information to 5 stub articles.

There would be a page for the contest that participants add their name to and list the articles they created fixed, etc (and proof of it would obviously be seen in their contributions page and the article's history page). This doesn't necessarily have to be a monthly thing, it could weekly if that seems better. Does this sound like a good idea? DarthMaul431 01:27, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Not bad. It will further better existing articles themselves, which is needed most here. -- Riffsyphon1024 15:23, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a great idea to me! I say we do it! Star Wars Guy 01:21, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Should I add this to the topics for discussion at the next meeting? DarthMaul431 22:39, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Timestamping sourceless articles
This system is borrowed from, as usual, Uncyclopedia. Its goal is to provide simplified deletion for fanon and unclutter VFD.

I modified sources and sources-date so that articles are added to both Category:Sourceless and Category:Sourceless tagged. Articles in the latter are ordered by the week they were tagged on, or, actually, the remainder of its division by 6 (to prevent incorrect categorization in case of two-digit numbers). Actually, mod6 is irrelevant.

What's relevant is, one can easily identify articles that stayed sourceless for more than a week. These are articles whose number differs from the current week mod6 by more than one. For example, if Category:Sourceless tagged says "Current week: 3" and an article is included in the category under the header 1, it can be deleted. Articles under the header 5 can be deleted starting with week 1, and articles under the header 6 can be deleted starting with week 2.

Also, the usage of sources-date is favored over sources because it adds a timestamp (although it has nothing to do with the ordered-by-date category). - Sikon [ Talk ] 14:53, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Search Icon
I like the Wookieepedia style but this is slightly broken by the "wikicities" search icon. Just upload a new icon to -- TheDarkArchon 16:45, 1 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Agree. --UVnet 22:25, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Someone asked me about doing a new one a bit ago. I'll get to it. -- Dark Spork 00:39, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Addition to FA criteria
I think we should add something like this:

10. ...have a Behind the Scenes section.

or even

10. ...have a decent/detailed/whatever Behind the Scenes section.

What say you? --UVnet 22:19, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't think it should be a strict requirement, as there'll be some subjects that won't really have anything interesting to put in the BTS section. Maybe just make it part of criterion #1 and have it say "if applicable, make the Behind the Scenes section as detailed and complete as possible" (or something along those lines, maybe a little shorter). --MarcK [talk] 09:06, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * To be completely honest... I don't think so. I mean what can't have a BTS section? (exept for BTS articles). Every single in-universe concept in Star Wars must have originated in:

A. Some sort of work. B. A person (or persons) who invented it.

that's enough for the minimum BTS section.

Quote by Abel G. Peña for Wookieepedia's 1st Anniversary
Abel G. Peña has very kindly supplied us with a great quote that we can use to help promote Wookieepedia's 1st Anniversary. Thank you so much Abel!!! "Wookieepedia is a lavish and stunning homage to the Star Wars pop cultural phenomenon. Thanks to its professional appearance, the scope of its content, the quality of its writers and diligence of its administrators, Wookieepedia has become a valuable resource to fans both casual and obsessive, as well as to Star Wars authors. It's becoming the new nexus for everyone who wants to know as much as Yoda about that galaxy far, far away."

- Abel G. Peña --Azizlight 22:28, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Wow! Thank you indeed! Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 01:11, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Ditto, Abel! WhiteBoy 19:12, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Should we post it on the Main Page? --Azizlight 23:51, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Let's not go crazy. =) CooperTFN 23:55, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Yep, Abel will always be there for us and he's a damn good writer too. -- Riffsyphon1024 22:38, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Tag proposal
For those who are to be banned, I have come up with a few tag design to put on his userpage. Opinions? I am not sure how exactly a ban works, does it work through a vote? Decide which one is best and correct and if we can use it. Lt. 1993 16:37, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Bans are for vandals, so admins are the judge and the executioner. I like the last one.  :)  WhiteBoy 18:32, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the last one's most appropriate. CooperTFN 18:45, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * It's useless; there are no votes to decide blocks. Users cannot be "undergoing a ban", they're either banned or not. --Imp 19:28, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * It's worth using if they're only banned temporarily. CooperTFN 19:50, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Precisely. Most bans are by IP address, so should not be permanent.  Plus it serves as a notification to the user that they have been added to the WP:VIP where they can go to plead for mercy (until an admin bans them).  WhiteBoy 19:54, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I think I'll take this, modify it, and replace . WhiteBoy 19:57, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Locked double redirects
There are now only four double redirects on Wookieepedia, and these only still exist because they're locked. It would be nice if an admin would fix them. &mdash;Darth Culator  (talk)  19:35, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Imp took care of it. I unlocked them because I didn't see any reason to lock them. WhiteBoy 20:13, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Article gallery
This is just an idea/proposal but some pages are not long enough to allow for more than 1 image but sometimes additional images are quite useful. Also, some articles have an excess of images in certain section or in general. This might be an invitation for more pictures than are really needed but can we create a gallery on these pages? Sometimes you just can't fit the images in and have the article still look good. A gallery lets you include more images and keep the article clean and orderly. Darth Maul comes to mind as having a lot of pictures but is't not that bad. Boba Fett also has a number of pictures, especially in the Equipment section. I put those there and I don't want them to go but I think aesthetically it might be better served to move stuff like that to a gallery section at the page. Perhaps not for those two cases specifically but you get the idea. Thoughts/ideas?--DannyBoy7783 00:50, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree. There are a number of articles with a little too many pictures.  If it can be done, maybe there can be a gallery tag on the top of an article next to the discussion tag, edit tag, etc.  Then it could link to a gallery for that article specifically. DarthMaul431 03:17, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I was thinking it would be on the main page of the article in its own section or something but that's a good idea too.--DannyBoy7783 14:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Uncyclopedia

 * In the spirit of our anniversary, whoever hasn't already checked out this, should right now. Oooh...they got our number...especially surprised to see a direct quote from me! QuentinGeorge 09:14, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 * PS...Great work Sikon... :) QuentinGeorge 09:33, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Which quote, the one about Palpatine and NPOV? (Because I really forgot who said that one.) See also: Uncyclopedia:Babel:Gbs, I'm trying to get Uncyclopedia's main page reskinned tomorrow, just like it was reskinned for Memory Alpha's birthday. Anyway, I'm glad you liked that article! - Sikon [ Talk ] 09:56, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 * the encyclopedia is now full of masterpieces such as: "Palpatine was born on Naboo, or maybe he wasn't. He was the greatest Dark Lord of the Sith, or maybe he wasn't." - that was one of my comments in the great "Palpatine Birth Date edit war". :) QuentinGeorge 10:16, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Sometimes referred to as "Palpapedia", due to the fact that most of the effort made by the community is siphoned towards the Palpatine article. - ROFL!!!! StarNeptune 10:10, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, that sentence isn't mine. - Sikon [ Talk ] 10:15, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delusions of grandeur eh? LMAO! You know, maybe now's a good time to fill in those planet articles with actual information... -- Riffsyphon1024 22:49, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 * "Teevan was a planet." ...that is officially the greatest article ever. JustinGann's my hero. CooperTFN 04:25, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Ding! - Sikon [ Talk ] 06:10, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

It did get reskinned :D YIIMM 22:17, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Star Wars dreams
Uhh... not much of a big deal, but could anyone take a look at my Star Wars dreams page and fill it up? Its been around for three weeks, and hasn't been edited by anyone but me, so I want more dreams to be added. I think it would be an interesting subpage once its filled. Lt. 1993 13:57, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I've got a dream written down at home. I'll put it up after school. -LtNOWIS 18:47, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Closest I've come is a dream about going to see Episode 3, about three years ago. =) CooperTFN 04:24, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I can beat that. I've dreamed about a dream where I dreamt I'd.....nevermind. ;) QuentinGeorge 04:25, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Good Articles
Should we start identifying 'good articles' like at Wikipedia (here)?

Personally I think this would be a great way, in addition to the improvement drive, to identify articles that could/should be pushing for the featured article status. What do you think - KastMorben 14:09, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Food for thought on Lando Calrissian's possible origins
Hey, fellow Star Warriors. (I know that sounds cheesy, but I took it from the original Marvel Comics and some of the earliest Dark Horse Comics.) I'm glad I found a site where I can finally post some of my thoughts on some of the "Star Wars" universe's more mysterious characters. This particular idea has been floating around in my head since I completed The Cestus Deception a year or so ago.

As I'm sure most of us know, Lando Calrissian's origins are steeped in mystery, which is the way he likes it. It's possible that he's Corellian, from Bespin, or from some other planet we've either heard of or never heard of. The details of his youth are very spotty, and only a few fragments of it are known due to psychological torments he endured under Rokur Gepta in the Oseon system.

However, in the original drafts of The Empire Strikes Back, Lando was a survivor of the Clone Wars, and his entire family perpetuated through cloning. This version, of course, was not integrated into the film, but it's an interesting thought.

So this all got me thinking. What if Lando is the son of Sheeka Tull and Jangotat? We were never given a last name for Sheeka's first husband Yander (if he even has a last name), so who is to say that it isn't Calrissian? Or, who is to say that Sheeka didn't marry again to a man with the last name Calrissian? Or who is to say that he didn't just make up that name anyway to add to his flair of mystery?

Of course, there's possible flaws with this theory, the foremost being Lando's age. He has been said to be two years older than Han Solo, who is a young boy during the Clone Wars. However, if you take into consideration the fact that Jangotat, as a clone trooper, had accelerated growth, then it would be natural to assume that Lando, if he was his son, inherited that from him.

Another possible flaw with this theory is that Lando is likely to have an ancestor, Galduran Calrissian. Even so, this doesn't disprove that he is related or that he just took the name Calrissian as his own.

Anyway, as I said, it's food for thought. We'll probably never find out where Lando came from, any more than we'll probably never find out where Yoda came from. But sometimes it's fun to speculate. Any thoughts?


 * It's probably better to discuss something like this at Theforce.net. The Community Portal is only for article discussion. Sorry. -- Riffsyphon1024 03:49, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Or -- Talk:Lando Calrissian. -- Riffsyphon1024 03:51, 5 March 2006 (UTC)