Forum:CT Archive/We should hold a consensus for Anakin and Vader's articles to be split up again!

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WHO'S WITH ME!? Valin &quot;Tnu&quot; &quot;Shido&quot; Suul 22:38, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not. I don't like it either, but the the community has spoken, and I accept it.  StarNeptune Talk to me! 23:58, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Same with me. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:11, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Like it or not, the results are in. Wookieepedia is something of a democracy, and the voters chose. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 02:00, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * What, you want to go against policy? Go ahead. Make my day. .  .  .  .  02:36, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The vote count was roughly even. Consistent policy swayed things to merging them. -Fnlayson 16:03, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * As much as I'm against this existing merge, I would avoid any battles relating to it. -- Riffsyphon1024 02:45, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * We'll try again a year later. -- SFH 02:48, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * We could go for a two-thirds majority like Congress, but I'll wait. 16:08, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Or we could go for, you know, canon&hellip; You may believe the two to be different, but they are the same person. --Imp 16:13, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Just leave it. They're merged; end of - \\Captain Kwenn// &mdash; Ahoy! 16:44, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It was expected that such a CT thread would pop up, and in fact, I'm all for it because maybe we'll reach consensus this time. Whatever it will be. I just didn't expect such... questionable execution of the resplit thread, if you know what I mean. - Sikon 18:34, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * This is junk. We only just had the vote to merge them. .  .  .  .  20:49, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * There was no consensus two weeks ago&mdash;why would there be now? The only thing this CT will accomplish is another "No consensus, merge by default." --Imp 21:49, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * What do you mean Junk Four dot? seperateing the artical is the way to go. they were big enough on there own. and seperation of sucb articals would allso prevent large spoiler issues. with the Anakin/Vader thing if you know what i mean Valin &quot;Tnu&quot; &quot;Shido&quot; Suul 19:36, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Fresh from the main page: Warning: This wiki contains spoilers. Read at your own risk.  .  .  .  .  21:07, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Anyone who doesn't know Anakin and Vader are the same shouldn't be allowed near a Star Wars website. Next you'll be suggesting we add spoiler tags to the Battle of Yavin article for people who don't know Luke blew up the Death Star. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 21:12, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Watch out for Palpatine being Sidious! .  .  .  .  21:22, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Ay dios mio... How about no. No more of this silliness. I'm tired of it. I'm just glad it's settled, even if I did prefer the separate articles to begin with. -- Darth Culator  (Talk)(TINC) 21:35, 20 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I will not let this man that has stood for 23 years be split in two.
 * If he does, you must realize there isn't enough consensus to protect him from being merged.

Canderous Ordo 21:49, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm actually fairly sixk of Fourdot treating everyone like imbeciles. A merge may not happen again, for all we know some people might have been away on holiday. But as it is, lets leave it for now. Jasca Ducato 22:13, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm actually fairly sixk of Fourdot treating everyone like imbeciles. Stop giving me ammunition, then. .  .  .  .  22:21, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Stop giving me ammunition, then. That really doesn't help you, Fourdot. If anything, that actually hurts you. -- SFH 22:24, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not here to please. .  .  .  .  22:26, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
 * There are some who deserve to be bombarded by sarcasm and condescending remarks. I'm waiting to see if those pricks at ED add him to their Wookieepedia entry. I agree that the article should be left alone.-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 22:38, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Add who? .  .  .  .  22:43, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Since this thread arose from the fact that there seems to be some unhappiness with the result of the last CT, let's start again, shall we?
 * Fourdot, you don't have to act like an arse just because you've got someone who doesn't agree with you. I haven't insulted you once, although i could very easily. So why don't you just stop! Jasca Ducato 20:34, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Keep them merged

 * 1) Imp 15:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) Green Tentacle (Talk) 15:12, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) -Solus 15:31, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, this is getting stupid. Just leave the guy alone! - \\Captain Kwenn// &mdash; Ahoy! 15:34, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) Kuralyov 16:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) I didn't vote for the merge, but I won't vote for a split now. If a vote like this is held again, I'm going to either abstain or vote for whatever state the articles are in at the time. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 19:29, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) I voted against the merge in the first place. But now I'm tired of this. -- Darth Culator  (Talk)(TINC) 19:35, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) QuentinGeorge 19:59, 26 November 2006 (UTC) - Let's not touch these ever again.
 * 5) One man, one article. -- Ozzel 20:01, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 6)  Yoshi  626  20:04, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 7)  Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 20:22, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 8) Lonnyd 21:31, 26 November 2006 (UTC) - Can't believe I forgot to vote last time.
 * 9) Weak support. --Azizlight 21:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 10) We only just did this!  .  .  .  .  21:52, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 11) Not if having 14 or 15 votes here would make any difference, but if the community decided that the articles should be merged, you should accept it. We don't ask you to change your opinion; just accept that the majority wants it merged. There is no sense in restarting a dispute only a short time after it was settled. If we were six or seven months ahead of this, the article would have probably gone throught many changes in structure, quantity of info, etc. that might be worthy of a rediscussion. - TopAce 22:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 12)  - breathesgelatin Talk 22:42, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Seperate them

 * 1)  StarNeptune Talk to me! 15:04, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) Jasca Ducato 15:57, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 3)  Polifemo (talk to me) 19:32, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 4)  Morin  boy15  20:37, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 5) Either way, the issue will remain. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 21:04, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Comments (continued)
If Vader and Anakin are separated, should we split Revan into Revan, Darth Revan and Revan (redeemed)? How about Grievous and Qymaen jai Sheelal? Cade Skywalker and Cade Skywalker (post-traumatic stress)? --Imp 15:08, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Per Imp. I'm no debatist, but having the same vote every week or so is just silly. Also, just for practical purposes, it would be extremely messy to tear it in two. The article has them so intwined once you got out of the biography, you'd be splitting hairs to see which article gets what, because having them both have the same thing is redundant. But that's just me. -Solus 15:36, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Not really. We'd just revert to the previous version. That would replace all the old information. Jasca Ducato 15:59, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, removing the past two weeks of work just to split up the article is really in Wookieepedia's best interests. --Imp 16:02, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't really care either way, but this is ridiculous. Having vote after vote for something that's clearly never going to have a consensus is setting a dangerous precedent and is on the road to encouraging edit wars. Kuralyov 16:22, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm tired of the whining. And the side that wants them split is whining the loudest. Therefore I will vote in favor of keeping them merged from now until the end of time. I'm ashamed to have voted to keep them split in the first place, because it taints me with being associated with the whiners. -- Darth Culator  (Talk)(TINC) 20:52, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * These people are worse that OOT Purists. Vocal minority. And we only just had this. I would have at least thought that it should wait a while. But no...some people do not understand the concept of patience. .  .  .  .  22:06, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * And some people don't know how to be polite. Thefourdot, stop trying to make enemies already. Let people express their opinions and don't argue with them. I made the same mistake. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * And Darth Culator, only two people are really "whining" about it, and going by that, so is everyone who want them to remain merged. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:35, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No, those who want a split are openly defying policy and a decsision that was made only recently. Ergo, whining. .  .  .  .  23:36, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * That vote wasn't a vote for a new policy. It was a vote to merge two articles. And if you thought that that vote or even this one will end it, then you're wrong, Thefourdot. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)