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A Good article must&hellip;
 * 1) &hellip;be well-written and detailed.
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 * 7) &hellip;have a proper lead that gives a good summary of the topic if the length of the article supports it. This is essential in articles over 1000 words but may not be appropriate on articles with limited content.
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 * 9) &hellip;have significant information, especially a biography for character articles. For articles under 1000 words in length, comprehensive detail is required with all information covered from all sources and appearances. For articles over 1000 words, broad coverage addressing all major aspects of the topic is sufficient.
 * 10) &hellip;be completely referenced for all available material and sources. See Sourcing for more information.
 * 11) &hellip;have all quotes and images sourced.
 * 12) &hellip;provide at least one quote on the article if available. A leading quote at the beginning of the article would be preferred, though not required if no quotes are available. Although quotes may be placed in the body of the article, a maximum of one quote is allowed at the beginning of each section.
 * 13) &hellip;ideally include a "personality and traits" section on all character articles if information is available.
 * 14) &hellip;ideally include a "powers and abilities" section on relevant character articles, especially for Force-sensitive characters where said powers and/or abilities are stipulated.
 * 15) &hellip;include a "Behind the scenes" section.
 * 16) &hellip;include a reasonable number of images of good quality if said images are available.
 * 17) &hellip;counting the introduction and "Behind the scenes" material, be at least 250 words long (not including captions, quotes, or headers, etc).

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Palleus Chuff

 * Nominated by:  Pranay Sobusk  ~  Talk  14:54, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: I tried one more for GA.

(1 AC/1 users/2 total)
Support
 * 1)  IFYLOFD  ( And now, young Skywalker, you will die. ) 21:05, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 2)  Cavalier One [[Image:FarStar Logo.jpg|20px]]( Squadron channel ) 10:24, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Object Comments
 * 1) IFYLOFD:
 * 2) * In the intro: "In 20 BBY the Galactic Republic government asked him to play Yoda in reality going to a mission to Ithor, while the real Yoda was on a secret mission to Vjun with two Masters and two Padawans." Split up and/or reword this sentence.
 * 3) **Addressed
 * 4) * "Due to that small size, he often portrayed characters that he absulotely disliked." Why did his small size force him to play characters he disliked?
 * 5) **Addressed
 * 6) * "Chuff should play Yoda in reality going to a mission to Ithor." This confuses me a little. Is he playing Yoda or going on a mission to Ithor? Clear this up a little.
 * 7) **Addressed
 * 8) * "He also did not have the heart to answer the journalist's question." Who is the journalist?
 * 9) **Addressed
 * 10) * The article could use a good copy-edit.
 * 11) **I have tried it as far as possible. If you still see something, please advise.
 * 12) *"The Dark Jedi Asajj Ventress heart about Chuff's mission in the media and decided to lie in wait for him, because she knew that a dead Yoda would be a catastrophe for the Jedi Order." Why would Yoda's death be catastrophic?
 * 13) **Addressed
 * 14) * The prose itself is a bit choppy. Merge some short sentences that distupt the flow of the article together.
 * 15) **Also tried this as far as possible. If you still see something, please advise.
 * 16) * "After Yoda had already done four of five" Four of five of what?
 * 17) **Addressed
 * 18) * Any quotes?  IFYLOFD  ( And now, young Skywalker, you will die. ) 01:18, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 19) **Added one, the rest are only such simple quotes like "Thank you." or "May the Force be with you.". Thank you for the review.  Pranay Sobusk  ~  Talk  21:22, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 20) Chack Attack:
 * 21) * "enjoyed playing roles, especially playing heros." Could be phrased better.
 * 22) **Addressed
 * 23) * Clarify the "as he was going to a mission" bit in the intro.
 * 24) **Addressed
 * 25) * "Asajj Ventress intended to kill Chuff because she felt confident that Yoda flew the courier." Bad wording.
 * 26) **Addressed
 * 27) * "because the play got good criticism from the media, for example by the TriNebulon News." This reads very awkwardly.
 * 28) **Addressed
 * 29) * "There was also a fan called Charpp who watched Jedi! 15 times." Only include if you can tie it in to the article better.
 * 30) **Removed, because it is not really important for the life of Palleus Chuff.
 * 31) * "When he was finally on his own, one of his major goals was not to disappoint Yoda. For that reason, he ignored his thinkings of a killer droid shooting him. It was eventually an easy job for him to cut off the supports off the Last Call by using the lightsaber Yoda gave him." These sentences don't tie well together.
 * 32) **Rephrased
 * 33) * "He instantaneously went to the turbolifts after that where he already imagined his own death, when Yoda suddenly arrived." Bad wording.
 * 34) **Rephrased.
 * 35) * "In addition, his colleagues eventually saw his witty qualities. Since childhood, Chuff had the fear of flying as well as the fear of closed spaces." I'd suggest you split this second sentence into the start of a new paragraph.
 * 36) **Addressed
 * 37) * "Another important thing at that time was Yoda's safety. Therefore, he warned him of the battle droids that were looking for him." Also, poor phrasing here.
 * 38) **Addressed
 * 39) * There are several spelling and grammatical errors. I apologize for not fixing this myself, but I think it'd be good for you to do this. (Also, after cleaning some stuff up, Wikia locked the site, erasing my edit).
 * 40) **I corrected every error I could find.
 * 41) * Also, should the play be italicized? Check the book.
 * 42) **Addressed (Yes, it is italicized.)
 * 43) *A good copyedit would go a long way towards making this article better. Concentrate on cleaning up the prose throughout the article; there are many instances where things read poorly and that drags the article down. I may have some poor stuff later; deal with this for now and we'll see how that goes. And don't get worried if this seems like a lot. It's not as bad as you may think.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 21:37, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 44) **I have cleaned up every poor sentence/wording I could see. If you still see something - which may be the case as wording is not one of my strengths - please advise. Thank you for the review.  Pranay Sobusk  ~  Talk  20:14, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 45) * "a little peeved" Too colloquial.
 * 46) **Addressed
 * 47) * "Restricted by his height, he often had to portray characters that he found strange." It seems like there could be a better adjective than strange here.
 * 48) **Addressed
 * 49) * "In 20 BBY Chuff portrayed Yoda as he was going to a mission to Ithor in order to keep the galaxy believing Yoda found himself in Ithor." Not worded well.
 * 50) **Addressed
 * 51) * "Full of shaky courage, he went ahead to cut the support legs off the Last Call. Already imagining his own death, the courage went away until Yoda arrived to save him from the suction." Again, this is a little confusing, and needs better wording.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 13:02, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 52) **Addressed. Thank you for looking again.  Pranay Sobusk  ~  Talk  13:57, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 53) *"Palleus Chuff was a person who frequently attended role-playing games in his childhood" This should be rephrased to flow better.
 * 54) *You're getting there, but there's still more work to be done. I suggest you go through, read this and do your best work at cleaning up grammar and improving sentence phrasing. A good cleanup would go a long way. Keep up the diligent work!  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 23:18, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 55) Farlstendoiro: Greetings, my first time objecting. Small thing.
 * 56) *In the intro, the following string of characters appears twice: her ship, the Last Call. I think it could be reworded, and the second time it should not be a hyperlink. IMHO, and I am open to discussion if needed.--Skippy Farlstendoiro 12:21, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 57) **Reworded. Thank you for the review.  Pranay Sobusk  ~  Talk  12:02, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 58) * According to Sourcing articles with only one source or appearance should not be referenced. You may therefore want to remove all the referencing tags --Jinzler 21:23, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 59) **Actually, You are right, but it is still ok to use references in single-source articles. For example, the administrator Toprawa and Ralltiir uses them, and I also like to use them.  Pranay Sobusk  ~  Talk  14:36, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 60) ***Fair enough, it's up to you really. I'll strike my objection --Jinzler 20:01, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 61) Toprawa:
 * 62) *This entire last bit is in need of a good rewrite for greater clarification and context. Don't assume anyone knows what's going on. What courier? What new scheme? I would recommend tackling this bit from scratch. Details are your friend. "Arriving in the Ottega system, the Dark Jedi Asajj Ventress intended to kill Chuff because she erroneously believed that the person in the courier was the Jedi Master. However, she found out that the passenger was only a decoy and captured him in her ship, the Last Call, to implement her new scheme. Chuff finally gained revenge in Phindar&mdash;while Ventress made an attempt to kill the real Yoda&mdash;by engaging her ship's hyperdrive for a random hyperspace jump. " Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:27, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 63) From the squadron briefing of Cavalier One:
 * 64) * The last paragraph of the bio could do with revising/expanding to better clarify the events surround Chuff and Yoda's mission to save the spaceport. Why is Yoda cutting the support legs? Why will cutting the legs save the spaceport? It is a little unclear. - Cavalier One [[Image:FarStar Logo.jpg|20px]]( Squadron channel ) 12:30, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 65) **I have expanded this as much as possible, but unfortunately Yoda: Dark Rendezvous only has few information regarding this. Nevertheless, thank you for the review and the cleanup. If you think that there's still something else needed, just let me know.  Pranay Sobusk  ~  Talk  21:19, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Pranay Sobusk: I saw you have fixed my objections. I plan on looking through the article within the next two days, and striking my objections. I apologize for the delay.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 00:15, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem.  Pranay Sobusk  ~  Talk  20:41, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Pranay, spaces between punctuation and reference note are not necessary. Please avoid that. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:27, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the review, Toprawa. The spaces are now removed from the article.  Pranay Sobusk  ~  Talk  21:19, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Peragus II

 * Nominated by: -- Darth tom (talk)  13:00, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: I feel it meets the requirements.

(0 AC/6 users/6 total)
Support
 * 1) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 08:47, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 12:10, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Good work.  QuiGonJinn The ability to speak does not make you intelligent.[[Image:Quigonheadshot.jpg|20px]] 14:11, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Jedimca0(Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 17:55, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 5)  IFYLOFD  ( And now, young Skywalker, you will die. ) 03:58, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) Qui-Gon Reborn ( The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent. )

Object Comments
 * 1) Grand Moff Tranner:
 * 2) * Some sentences and parts of sentences are not referenced.
 * 3) * Perhaps a picture of the mining facility, and maybe even one of the asteroid field exploding during the Ebon Hawk's escape. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 15:35, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) **I added an image, of the Ebon Hawk during it's escape. I'll address the sourcing soon. -- Darth tom (talk)  15:53, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) From Jedimca0
 * 6) * The last paragraph of the "Skirmish at Peragus II" section needs to be referenced as well. --Jedimca0(Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 18:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) SoresuMakashi
 * 8) * Another quote maybe?
 * 9) * Expand on the Peragus Mining Facility's destruction in the intro. Why was it destroyed? SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 05:19, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) **Added to the introduction, as requested. I did add a quote, however very few quotes refer to the Mining Facility, and even fewer to the planet itself, so this was a general quote from Kreia upon the Station.. -- Darth tom (talk)  17:42, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) ***I thought there were a few Atton quotes lying around, especially in the scene where he first meets the Exile in the detention block. Maybe I'm just mistaken. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 08:47, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) Toprawa:
 * 13) * The article should conform to the Layout Guide's style for planet articles, including all relevant sections. Please add the appropriate sections and information to the article. You may use any of our current planet FAs/GAs as models. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:58, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) **I added a 'Description' and 'Locations' section, as per the Layout guide, however as Peragus is somewhat lacking in inhabitants, I didn't include that one. -- Darth tom [[Image:Imperial Emblem.svg|20px]] (Imperial Intelligence)  14:29, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 15) *This needs some kind of greater context. What asteroid field? Was the asteroid field created as a result of its destruction? Also, a stray blast from what? From Sion? Don't assume the reader knows anything: "a stray blast in the field detonating the asteroid field"
 * 16) **I'm still confused about the asteroid field. What asteroid field? The nearby Peragus asteroid field? Why not specify, if so? Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'm confused. The infobox claims Peragus II is uninhabitable, but you say there is the mining facility on the planet, home to miners. How are they then surviving on the planet? Something should be explained in the Description section explaining the world is uninhabitable - perhaps adding onto what you have written to say, "...ravaged the world uninhabitable"? The next objection may tie into this one.
 * 1) *Going along with that, you say the mining facility is located on the exterior of the world. What does that mean, exactly? Is the facility raised high up in the atmosphere? Is it in orbit? Please explain this: "on the exterior of the planet."
 * 2) *This information in the Description section should instead be worked into the Locations section. It seems like you can also glean an Inhabitants section out of this to explain that, as I'm inferring from this, that there are no inhabitants, only Human miners: "with Peragus II also being devoid of any sort of Human settlements other than the Peragus Mining Facility"
 * 3) * Your referencing needs some serious work. There's no need to specify conversations between people and the like. Just list the source.
 * 4) *Please handle these objections to the first section, and I will continue my review. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:16, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) **Addressed. -- Darth tom [[Image:Imperial Emblem.svg|20px]] (Imperial Intelligence)  18:32, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) NaruHina!
 * 7) * "The only inhabitants of the planet Peragus II resided in the residential Peragus Mining Facility, with the inhabitants of the Facility being composed of many species, mostly humans such as the Medical, Dock, Maintenance security and Administration Officers, although there were some other species residing in the Facility, such as Sullustans." Rephrase
 * 8) **Done. -- Darth tom [[Image:Imperial Emblem.svg|20px]] (Imperial Intelligence)  11:55, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) *** "The inhabitants of the Mining Facility were all killed after HK-50 triggered the emergency lockdown or by the rampant mining droids." Huh? I'm pretty sure a hag, lady, and some other Force-sensitive guy escaped. The Force-sensitive guy was at least a resident. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 13:57, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) ****Sorted. -- Darth tom [[Image:Imperial Emblem.svg|20px]] (Imperial Intelligence)  11:55, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) * "The planet Peragus II is often confused with the Peragus Mining Facility. To add to the confusion, the developers of Knights of the Old Republic II labeled quests received in the facility with "Peragus II"." I'm sorry, what? there is no context for this confusion and how can they be confused if it is the only thing within hundreds of miles. I'm feeling very confused about this confusion.
 * 12) **Done. -- Darth tom [[Image:Imperial Emblem.svg|20px]] (Imperial Intelligence)  11:55, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 13) ***Not done. How are they confused? NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 13:57, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) ****I spoke to Sikon, who told me he had no source for this. So I removed it. -- Darth tom [[Image:Imperial Emblem.svg|20px]] (Imperial Intelligence)  11:55, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 15) *****I suppose Lucy is always right. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 06:50, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 16) * "The sole point of interest on Peragus II was the Peragus Mining Facility" This is untrue according to the infobox which states one can look at the wonderous beauty of the asteroid field.
 * 17) **Done. -- Darth tom [[Image:Imperial Emblem.svg|20px]] (Imperial Intelligence)  11:55, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 18) ***In the Location section, there is no main article stub for the asteroid field. And what drift charts? Provide context. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 13:57, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 19) ****By 'stub' do you mean sub header? -- Darth tom [[Image:Imperial Emblem.svg|20px]] (Imperial Intelligence)  11:55, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 20) *****I meant that "Main Article: Peragus Asteroid Field" Should be there before you start talking about it. But good idea. Both sections need subheaders. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 06:50, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 21) *I'm not getting why, if the point of the article is to be about the planet that the Skirmish is so widely mentioned, it makes it appear that that occured on the planet when it occured on an asteroid in the asteroid field. It doesn't really have to do with it, other than it blew up the planet which should obviously be mentioned.
 * 22) **I'm sorry? Please elaborate. -- Darth tom [[Image:Imperial Emblem.svg|20px]] (Imperial Intelligence)  11:55, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 23) ***The skirmish is a very large part of the article. The way it is written makes it seem like it is on planet, when it is not. It was in the asteroid field. It needs to be trimmed down a bit. Should be mentioned, just not be half the article. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 13:27, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 24) * The Jedi Exile is not linked to in the body.
 * 25) **Fixed. -- Darth tom [[Image:Imperial Emblem.svg|20px]] (Imperial Intelligence)  11:55, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 26) * The Bts is also not sourced at all.
 * 27) **Fixed. -- Darth tom [[Image:Imperial Emblem.svg|20px]] (Imperial Intelligence)  11:55, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 28) ***Not fixed. You must source the confusion. You sourced the name of the missions not that people got the station and asteroid confused. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 13:57, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 29) ****Now fixed. -- Darth tom [[Image:Imperial Emblem.svg|20px]] <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  11:55, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 30) *****Fixed like Bob Barker's (Whose birthday is today) dog's newborn baby. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 06:50, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 31) *"In approximately 4,000 BBY" Got a source for that? NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 13:57, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 32) **Yep. -- Darth tom [[Image:Imperial Emblem.svg|20px]] <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  11:55, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 33) ***Where in kotor2's plot holes does kotor2 specify 4000 BBY? NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 07:00, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 34) * "oil was found on the planet," No it wasn't it was referred to as feul. It was not specified as oil. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 13:57, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 35) **Fixed. -- Darth tom [[Image:Imperial Emblem.svg|20px]] <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  11:55, 11 December 2008 (UTC) Fix the infobox sourcing.  NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 07:00, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 36) *When is Pearagus specified as being in the Kwymar sector in KotOR2? NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 07:00, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 37) *Confucious say, "Have nice day" NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 14:47, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 38) **Fixed those, although one requires elaboration on your part, please. -- Darth tom [[Image:Imperial Emblem.svg|20px]] <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  16:06, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 39) ***Addressed once more. -- Darth tom [[Image:Imperial Emblem.svg|20px]] <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  11:55, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Darth Malak

 * Nominated by: Jedi Kasra (talk) 21:18, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Drewton and I have worked on this article for a while, and I believe it's ready to be considered a good article.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 21:22, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

(0 ACs/0 Users/0 Total)
Support
 * 1) Thats all I can see that other people haven't objected to. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 23:48, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) From the pages of NaruHina's Death Note
 * 2) *It seems OK but:
 * 3) * The him being in the Old Republic Era in the Infobox is not sourced
 * 4) * The language base in the Bts is unsourced
 * 5) **"While such a name might seem incongruous with Darth Malak's role as Sith Lord, he could be seen as a fallen angel due to his Jedi beginnings." I think this should be sourced as another opinion may be that he sees himelf as a divine messenger or something. There are many ways that "angel" and "messenger to God" can go.
 * 6) **Actually got rid of that, it just states what the actual name means in Hebrew and Arabic, have sources.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 18:35, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) * There is a Fact tag in the Bts.
 * 8) **Fixed.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 17:15, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) * One last thing, the succession box is not sourced. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 05:07, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) *Took care of it, sourced now.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 16:03, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) * NaruHina Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 00:20, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) Quotes in prose, speculation rampant in BtS, bullets in BtS, tiny paragraphs. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 13:19, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 13) There's quotes in the middle of sections, that's against MoS, the double and triple refs aren't needed, some sections are just way too short, mainly article prose problems. It would also be good idea to copyedit the article, there are numerous grammatical errors. Watch for POV in the article, the intro, P&T, and P&A have loads of it in their respective sections. Also, the BtS, needs to be rid of speculation, bullets , then expanded with stuff that can be sourced, IE: interviews, actions figures, etc. DC 01:30, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) It's IFYLOFD!:
 * 15) *More info on the "devices" in the intro.
 * 16) **Adressed. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 13:36, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 17) *Is there an article on Darth Revan's flagship? If so, add a link to it in the intro.
 * 18) **Fixed, also linked in the body. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 00:53, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 19) *"The Sith Lord corrupted Shan, who he had once considered a threat, and made her his apprentice, replacing the slain Darth Bandon, whom Revan had killed." Reword and/or split up this sentence.
 * 20) **Adressed. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 13:34, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 21) *Context needed on Deesra Luur Jada and Lucien Draay.
 * 22) **Done. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 14:09, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 23) *More info on the "discovery" made by Adasca.
 * 24) *Fixed.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 18:45, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 25) *Context for Krynda Draay and Xamar.
 * 26) *I think it's fixed, check it out.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 15:22, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 27) *Unsourced statements in BtS.  IFYLOFD  ( And now, young Skywalker, you will die. ) 01:50, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 28) *Fixed, I believe.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 18:45, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 29) Cylka:
 * 30) * The infobox needs to be sourced correctly. Also any additional text in or out of parenthesis needs to either sourced separately or written before the ref notes, whichever the case may be.
 * 31) *Addressed.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 16:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 32) * The Star Forge wasn't just a superweapon, but also a space-based factory or spacestation. I think it would be worth mentioning that.
 * 33) *Addressed.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 16:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 34) * Was Malak helping Zayne in trying to apprehend Gryph? I thought that he was looking for Zayne at the behest of Lucien Draay and found him after Gryph got away. I could be wrong, but please check this out.
 * 35) *Addressed.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 16:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 36) * Give a little more info on how Zayne ended up on the Legacy. You mention that Zayne started a diversion, but no one knows how or why he got there.
 * 37) * Please give a little more context to how Zayne ended up on Jebble and they had to rescue him again. Just a sentence will do. Something like In light of certain events on Taris, Zayne traveled to Jebble where he was once again in need of assistance.
 * 38) *Addressed.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 16:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 39) * Please remove any quotes in the prose. From what I understand quotes or partial quotes can only be found in Bts, while quote templates only at the beginning of sections.
 * 40) *Those quotes in the BTS section are somewhat necessary, I feel, since they are from James Ohlen and John Jackson Miller, respectively. The quote from Ohlen is from Malak's databank entry, while the partial quote from Miller is from the letters section of Knights of the Old Republic #29. We can't just ignore those quotes.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 17:31, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 41) *Make sure that "master" is capitalized when referring to them by name or Jedi Master. I changed some of them, but I'm not sure I got them all.
 * 42) * It was not long before rumors began to spread that Malak's apprentice, who would be known as Darth Bandon, would challenge him for the right to rule, as was the manner of the Sith. The result of this revolt, however, is unknown. Other Sith only wondered about this. Bandon didn't form a revolt. He was killed before he could - according to the databank. This needs to be changed.
 * 43) *Addressed.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 16:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 44) * Malak was a pale-skinned human who stood an impressive two meters in height. What is the ref, for his height. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 01:19, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 45) *Addressed.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 16:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 46) *There seem to be some linking issues throughout the article. As I understand it, in articles each linkable subject should have one link each in the intro, main body, image caption, and infobox.
 * 47) *Its looking good, but still needs a little work. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 23:40, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * Took care of the quotes in the middle of sections, took out the bullets in BTS, him being part of the OR era is already sourced, will work on sourcing the language bases.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 20:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I think someone should take notice of the hideous amount of Point of View violations in the "Legacy" section. -MPK 18:25, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Except that what's in that section reflects character's opinions of Malak, such as G0-T0, Canderous Ordo, and Mical.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 17:41, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Then you need to include that it was their reflections. As it stands, it's POV, but with some tweaking, it could be fixed without changing the meaning of the sentences. DC 16:08, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Tweaked it a bit, check it out.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 17:05, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Spelunker probe droid

 * Nominated by: &mdash;Darthtyler (Talk) 04:18, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: I tried my best...

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Support
 * 1) -  Cavalier One [[Image:FarStar Logo.jpg|20px]]( Squadron channel ) 08:46, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 2)  IFYLOFD  ( And now, young Skywalker, you will die. ) 00:53, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 08:02, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Object
 * From the squadron briefing of Cavalier One:
 * 1) * In the Description section, some details on the droids specifications before its conversion to a battle droid is needed.
 * 2) **What do you mean?&mdash;Darthtyler (Talk) 20:37, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) ***Basically, since the droid was converted from a mining droid, it should be noted what systems the droid had before its conversion (if known). - Cavalier One [[Image:FarStar Logo.jpg|20px]]( Squadron channel ) 10:34, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) ****There. I split the section and added some content.&mdash;Darthtyler (Talk) 19:00, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) * In Description: This enabled the droid to become transparent to observers. However, in the intro, you state: Thus, the droid did not actually make itself transparent, but made itself invisible. Which is it?
 * 6) **I changed both to "camouflaged." It makes sense now, thanks for catching that.&mdash;Darthtyler (Talk) 20:37, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) * Under Clone Wars: During the battle, three of the chameleon droids used their cloaking device, presumably to hide from clone  troopers or Republic vehicles. "Presumably" is speculative; please reword or remove.
 * 8) **Deleted the last part of that sentence.&mdash;Darthtyler (Talk) 20:37, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) * Context is needed on who Padmé Amidala, Gregar Typho, Yoda, C-3PO, and R2-D2 are. Also, any information on why they arrived for a rescue mission? Did they receive a distress signal, Force sense, etc?
 * 10) **Gave background on Yoda sensing the call for help and on all characters.&mdash;Darthtyler (Talk) 20:37, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) * These units were presumably de-activated after the execution of the Separatist Council by Darth Sidious's new apprentice, Darth Vader. Again, speculative. Were they or were they not deactivated? -  Cavalier One [[Image:FarStar Logo.jpg|20px]]( Squadron channel ) 10:58, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) **Deleted "presumably" because all of the droids were deactivated following the control signal.&mdash;Darthtyler (Talk) 20:37, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 13) SoresuMakashi
 * 14) *I made a quite a few changes to make the article flow better.
 * 15) **Thank you.&mdash;Darthtyler (Talk) 22:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 16) * The fact that they were refitted exploration droids needs to be said in the intro. I suggest something like Originally mining exploration droids, they were outfitted with weaponry for military service between senteces 2 and 3.
 * 17) **Done.&mdash;Darthtyler (Talk) 22:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 18) * You need to explain the origin of the name of the droid (Spelunker) and what it means.
 * 19) **Done.&mdash;Darthtyler (Talk) 22:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 20) IFYLOFD:
 * 21) * Lots of short, choppy sentences that mess up the flow. Combine some together.
 * 22) **I believe Soresumakashi fixed that.&mdash;Darthtyler (Talk) 22:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 23) ***I just went through and fixed a few more. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 05:41, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 24) * What do you mean by "pure" cloaking device?</S>
 * 25) **Explained.&mdash;Darthtyler (Talk) 22:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 26) * "The Commerce Guild owned mining spots on several planets." Such as?  IFYLOFD  ( And now, young Skywalker, you will die. ) 18:54, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 27) **No available information, the databank and the New Essential Guide to Droids don't give any examples, and no other source gives any, either.&mdash;Darthtyler (Talk) 22:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 28) Taking a second read through, there is 1 sentence I'm concerned about. Worried about Yoda's delayed return, Amidala destroyed several more droids with a blaster, along with her two droids, C-3PO and R2-D2. I suggest you reword this, because it sounds to me like 3PO and R2 were one of the droids she destroyed. You also use droid twice.  SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 05:41, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 29) *Fixed.&mdash;Darthtyler (Talk) 18:57, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 30) Two things:
 * 31) *"The "cloaking device" in the droid actually just made the droid seem invisible." This could be written better.
 * 32) *"first use was at the Battle of Geonosis." Same as above. Please change the phrasing to make it flow better.
 * 33) *Otherwise, nice work.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 03:36, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 34) Toprawa:
 * 35) *Since this is a droid class article, I'd like to see it formatted similar to the Mini-Huvicko/Yuzabi Dowser binary hydromech droid article, with the same sectioning. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:17, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * Since the combat version is radically different from the basic mining version, should we have articles for each different version? - Cavalier One [[Image:FarStar Logo.jpg|20px]]( Squadron channel ) 10:58, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know, since they were the same model.&mdash;Darthtyler (Talk) 20:37, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * While being the same model, they have different roles and specifications. Two articles may be warranted. What does anyone else think? - Cavalier One [[Image:FarStar Logo.jpg|20px]]( Squadron channel ) 10:34, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I actually originally thought it was an article on only the combat version, and it was merely providing some background info on the origins of the droid. It was only until about halfway through the body that I realised it covered both sunbjects. That kinda wierded me out. I'm trying to think of an example article and see what that one has done, but I can't think of one. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 10:39, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * That being said, I am marginally in favor of a split. It wasn't just some slapped together improvement like an extra sensor or something. This was a complete remodel and conversion, with entirely different roles from its predecessor. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 10:48, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

AC Removal Vote

 * 1) Nobody's touched this thing since November. DC 04:54, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) A bit reluctantly, but I want to get inactive noms off the page. It's getting crowded.  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  22:16, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Do not remove

 * 1) An article is not to be considered inactive due to lack of reviewing. It needs to have outstanding objections more than 3 weeks old, which this nomination does not have. It's not the nominator's fault no one has looked at this. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:21, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Per Tope. Ignore my vote above, because, to put it simply, I screwed up.  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  22:27, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Valin Draco

 * Nominated by:Jinzler 21:52, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Inquisitors are generally quite angry and violent

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 * 1) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 05:05, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2)  IFYLOFD  ( And now, young Skywalker, you will die. ) 21:18, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) -  Cavalier One [[Image:FarStar Logo.jpg|20px]]( Squadron channel ) 11:09, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) * He urged the team to surrender, but they refused, which began a fight between them, Muun and Draco's team of Clone shadow troopers. When did shadowtroopers come into all this? Were they with Draco all along?
 * 2) **They were there all along. I have clarified this --Jinzler 21:29, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) * Just remember in future that all referencing occurs directly after punctuation (that includes commas), not before it. I fixed all of them in this article, so no need to worry. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 10:44, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) **Thank you --Jinzler 21:29, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) IFYLOFD:
 * 6) * You could probably elaborate more on the "experiences" that made him turn to the dark side in the intro.
 * 7) **Fixed --Jinzler 19:43, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) * "Draco ensured that they were easily able to do so." How so?
 * 9) **The Traitor's Gambit was pretty vague on this, but after much searching, I was able to discern how --Jinzler 20:35, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) * Context on Darth Rivan please.
 * 11) **Added --Jinzler 19:43, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) * Do we have info on what Draco learned from the holocron in the bio? Any more info on the holocron?
 * 13) **Added more info --Jinzler 20:35, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) * Quotes for P&T or The capture of Denia sections?  IFYLOFD  ( And now, young Skywalker, you will die. ) 01:17, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 15) **Added these --Jinzler 20:35, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 16) The quote in P&T seems to be the same as the lead. If this is so, one of those needs to be changed.  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  00:28, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 17) *That was a mistake (oops), but I have now fixed it and replaced it with another quote --Jinzler 17:38, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 18) From the squadron briefing of Cavalier One:
 * 19) * Any mention of why Denia was imprisoned by Darga?
 * 20) **Added --Jinzler 18:06, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 21) * He also used techniques that the holocron had shown him to create a Force illusion in a room that made anyone who entered the room fall asleep and under Draco's influence, their moral strength would be sapped. - I find this a little confusing; some clarity would be appreciated. Are the illusion and the falling asleep part of the same technique? How can moral strength be sapped if they are asleep?
 * 22) **I have clarfied this --Jinzler 18:06, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 23) * How did the Resistance team sever the gatekeeper from the holocron?
 * 24) **It is unclear exactly how it is done, a player can either user "sever Force" with a "Destiny Point" to do it, or if they freed Vhiin'Thorla, he does this. This is quite RPGish, but I have now stated in the article they did it "using the Force", because that it is pretty much all I can say on this --Jinzler 18:06, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 25) ***No probs; I know how tricky writing articles surrounding RPG events can be. - Cavalier One [[Image:FarStar Logo.jpg|20px]]( Squadron channel ) 11:09, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 26) * How did Draco capture Denia on the Resurgence? - Cavalier One [[Image:FarStar Logo.jpg|20px]]( Squadron channel ) 14:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 27) **It is not stated how he does this, as it happens off-scene --Jinzler 18:06, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * Your nomination comment makes me quite angry and makes me want to commit acts of violence against you. --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 16:56, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Teckla Minnau

 * Nominated by: Thefourdotelipsis 06:43, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: This is WTS.

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Support
 * 1) Another good WTS nom for Mr. Four Dot.  IFYLOFD  ( And now, young Skywalker, you will die. ) 23:07, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Kinda low quality image, but acceptable. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 05:13, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) -  Cavalier One [[Image:FarStar Logo.jpg|20px]]( Squadron channel ) 14:52, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Object

Comments
 * Would it be possible to get that redlink filled in?  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 02:28, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Mission to Monastery

 * Nominated by: QuiGonJinn Always remember, your focus determines your reality.[[Image:Qui-Gon negtc.jpg|20px]] 15:41, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: And now, some older stuff...

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Object
 * 1) It's time for: Going Old School With IFYLOFD:
 * 2) *Articles should be linked to once in the intro and once again when they appear first in the main body.
 * 3) **Addressed. QuiGonJinn Always remember, your focus determines your reality.[[Image:Qui-Gon negtc.jpg|20px]] 13:41, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) *In the intro: Baron Tagge? Provide context. Is it Domina Tagge?
 * 5) **Addressed. QuiGonJinn Always remember, your focus determines your reality.[[Image:Qui-Gon negtc.jpg|20px]] 13:41, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) *In the Background section: "After learning the identity of the pilot who destroyed the Death Star". Say who it is. You leave it unclear.
 * 7) **Rephrased. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 20:49, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) *In the main body: Provide context on Vader,Domina Tagge, Luke Skywalker, Jan Dodonna, Han Solo, and Leia.
 * 9) **I think it's done. QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force...[[Image:Quigonheadshot.jpg|16px]] 12:48, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) *In Mission: Provide context on Wermis, and Baron Tagge.
 * 11) **Context added. There is really nothing more to say about Wermis. He is just a captain... QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force...[[Image:Quigonheadshot.jpg|16px]] 12:48, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) *Why was Tagge their long-time enemy?
 * 13) **Explained. QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force...[[Image:Quigonheadshot.jpg|16px]] 10:42, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 14) *In Skirmish in Crystal Valley: Which Tagge does he kills? Baron or Domina?
 * 15) **Cleared that up. Also added a little more context. QuiGonJinn Always remember, your focus determines your reality.[[Image:Qui-Gon negtc.jpg|20px]] 13:41, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 16) *Needs a Behind the scenes section.
 * 17) **Added. QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force...[[Image:Quigonheadshot.jpg|16px]] 12:48, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 18) * IFYLOFD  ( And now, young Skywalker, you will die. ) 01:42, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 19) From the squadron briefing of Cavalier One:
 * 20) *Vader forced Domina Tagge, a member of the Order of the Sacred Circle located on Monastery, into cooperating with him, promising power and prestige, as well as revenge on Skywalker, for Domina believed her brother, Orman, was killed by him, but he was in fact saved by Vader and has been since kept in hibernation. - This sentence is too long and reads jerkily. Consider breaking it up.
 * 21) **Splitted into two sentences.
 * 22) *Watch the usage of first names; refer to Luke as Skywalker, etc. I've changed a few, but you should check over the entire article.
 * 23) **Only Orman and Domina are refered by the first names, since they both share the same surname and using it may lead to a confusion. All others are refered by the last name.
 * 24) *The start of the second paragraph in the Mission section reads awkwardly - you say they were captured, but don't tell us who. Also, you later say that Leia avoided capture, but the previous statement about the capture implies that they were all captured at the same time.
 * 25) **Rephrased.
 * 26) *Clarification is needed - why was Orman Tagge in a hibernation cell?
 * 27) **Clarified. QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force...[[Image:Quigonheadshot.jpg|16px]] 21:47, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 28) *Skirmish in the Crystal Valley section - explain the nature of the valley before the sequence of events that is to take place.
 * 29) **Explained.
 * 30) *Same section - As Vader was approaching the ceremonial Crystal Valley to fight Skywalker, he noticed the Falcon, aboard which Organa and Solo were at last able to free themselves, but distracted by the pursuing TIE fighters to notice that Orman escaped and ran into the valley. This is unclear andbadly worded. Please rewrite and break up to better describe the situation.
 * 31) **Reworded.
 * 32) *It should be mentioned that Vader intended to use Tagge as a test for Skywalker before it's revelation to Luke. Remember, this is an omnipresent article, told from a neutral point of view.
 * 33) **Mentioned. QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force...[[Image:Quigonheadshot.jpg|16px]] 15:10, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 34) *Check for extra sources - is the encounter mentioned in any other source material, e.g. Star Wars Encyclopedia, the The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia, etc. - Cavalier One [[Image:FarStar Logo.jpg|20px]]( Squadron channel ) 11:03, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 35) **No mention in the Essential Chronology, Star Wars Encyclopedia, the Essential and the New Essential Guides to characters, Essential Guide to Planets and Moons (the last one doesn't even have an article about Monastery). I don't have the Complete Encyclopedia though. QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force...[[Image:Quigonheadshot.jpg|16px]] 20:29, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 36) ***I'll check it for you, QuiGon.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 12:44, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

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Force Speed

 * Nominated by: Grunny 03:42, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: About time to add a Force Power to the Good articles list :)

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 * 1) Has seen a great deal of improvement over the past week. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 03:30, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Exponential improvement over last few days.  IFYLOFD  ( And now, young Skywalker, you will die. ) 20:11, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Uh-oh. Not sure how this is going to work. Abilities do not have an entry in the layout guide.
 * 2) *Assuming we overcome the first step, there are some things that could be improved.
 * 3) ** Missing alot of info from KotOR. Mention possibitity of Revan/Exile using it in the BtS.
 * 4) ***There is no canon proof that says either of them knew Force speed. It is possible for any jedi to learn this so saying that they may have used it is unimportant to the article as well. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 07:27, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) ****It still needs to be noted as a possible practitioner. It's what we've always done on KoTOR related articles.
 * 6) ** Missing variations from KotORs. Knight speed and Master speed, if I recall. Might get some info from the in-game descriptions.
 * 7) ***No stats but Master and Knight might need their own articles but yes they should have blurbs in a variations section.
 * 8) ****Variations are not meant to have individual articles (see mind trick). Agree on a variats section though.
 * 9) *****I added a variations section. Grunny 05:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) ** Overall expansion. I'm sure we can get more on this topic. At the moment, less than half of the sources are used. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 04:17, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) ***Yeah I know it doesn't have an entry in the layout guide, but I thought that every Wookieepedia article should be able to become a good article if it has enough information so maybe we could work out a layout for abilities??
 * I'll mention the possibility of Revan/Exile using it in the BtS :).
 * As I said above it is unimportant to the article. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 07:27, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well I think it is. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 07:43, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I was going to add Knight Speed and Master Speed but the power descriptions for both say that they both gain double movement speed, the only difference from burst of speed is that they boost defense and attack. So, I decided to leave it out as they seemed more like game mechanics but I'm no expert on the game so if you could help with KotOR stuff that'd be great :).
 * As for the sources, the core rulebooks basically say the same thing as all the others saying that using the Force a Jedi can increase their speed, so I found it superfluous. If anyone can help expand please do I was only trying to improve the article :-). Grunny 04:55, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) IFYLOFD:
 * 2) * Are you serious? The article is mostly list, that goes against the Layout Guide.
 * 3) * It's painfully short, use all the sources available, which is GAN rule 3.
 * 4) **It uses all the sources and is far longer :).Grunny 13:38, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) * Unsourced statements in BtS.
 * 6) **Sourced :).Grunny 13:38, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) * Intro sources are unnecessary.
 * 8) **Gone. Grunny 13:38, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) *This needs a lot of work to be even considered for GA.  IFYLOFD  ( And now, young Skywalker, you will die. ) 05:08, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) **I tried fixing some of those things probably still not enough. Sorry, I just wanted to improve the article :S. Grunny 05:34, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) Naru's Death Note Entry
 * 12) * I don't think Revan and the Exile should be mentioned because it is unknown if they could use it. I never teach it to my Revan, I have Juhani for that.
 * 13) **I changed it to say it is possible for the player to learn the power, is that better since it doesn't associate the power with the Exile or Revan? Grunny 01:14, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) ***I think "Jedi in the player's party" may be better. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 23:43, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 15) *I know "Force augmented speed" is in more sources than that. More roleplaying books and EU books in general.
 * 16) ** Say that Force Speed is also sometimes called "Force augmented speed" in the intro. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 07:28, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 17) ***How's that? :) Grunny 08:19, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 18) * Its appearance in the EU before it appeared in TPM is not notable.
 * 19) **It's gone :). Grunny 01:14, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 20) * The whole thing is an amalgum of blurbs.
 * 21) **Hopefully addressed. Grunny 13:38, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 22) * This article is not broad in coverage.
 * 23) **It could probably be a bit more broad but I think its good for a GA.
 * 24) * NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 07:33, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 25) **I fixed it just missing a quotation mark :). Grunny 08:19, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 26) * It barely even mentions what it actually does and it does not say anything that this can also mean that they use the Force to speed their muscles up, not just slow everything down, or that both methods can be used.
 * 27) *It would be a good idea to start from scratch NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 07:38, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 28) **I've started rewriting it, at least we can improve the article. Grunny 09:22, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 29) SoresuMakashi (again)
 * 30) * Hmmm... I'm surprised I didn't notice this stuff earlier. Please note that all referencing occurs after punctaution, not before it.
 * 31) **I've moved them to after punctuation. Grunny 12:07, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 32) * You use him a few times in the first paragraph of the Applications section. Avoid using specific genders.
 * 33) **Done :).Grunny 12:07, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 34) * Some more images. I'm thinking maybe one from TPM and one from the Jedi Knight game series would be quite nice.
 * 35) **I'll see if I can find some tomorrow :-).Grunny 12:07, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 36) **I added an image of Kyle Katarn using it, what do you think of it?? Grunny 13:03, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 37) ***It's good. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 06:22, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 38) * While I think this article could still use a lot of expansion, its quality has definitely improved. Nice job with the list to prose conversion, it's much more integrated and fluid now. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 11:24, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 39) From the scratchpad of Atarumaster88
 * 40) *The "Knight" and "Master" speed designations are game mechanics. It would be preferably to say that it was possible to increase one's speed even further through dedicated study of the technique, or something like that. Regardless, those two subsections should go.
 * 41) **Done :-).  Grunny  (Talk) 09:49, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 42) *No information at all from LotF? Nuh-uh. Please address.
 * 43) *All Jedi from Battlefront II are users of Force Speed, AFAIK. Furthermore, there should be a users section detailing known users of Force Speed. As a guide, I'm using my saber form articles to give me a rough guestimate for a suitable layout.
 * 44) *Given that many, many Jedi are seen by observers to be moving quite fast while dueling, I would think that those would be instances of Force Speed, no? If so, then this will need serious expansion. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 17:56, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 45) Brooklyn's finest:
 * 46) *Straight out the gate I noticed underlinking. Please make sure everything with an article is linked once in the intro, and once in the article body.
 * 47) *Also, the appearances list is incomplete at best, with the first instance coming to mind being one involving Roan Shryne in RoDV. I'm sure that as I pick my brain I can find a few more that you missed, but this is your endeavor, and that task is yours.
 * 48) **Added the RoDV appearance and info, thanks for pointing that one out :-). I'm doing a search for appearances at the moment.  Grunny  (Talk) 14:29, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 49) *And these at a cursory glance. Force powers make me nervous for GAN/FANs, because of the fact they aren't always named specifically when written about by many authors. Hopefully you'll be able to make this one as complete as possible. Until then&hellip; —Tommy9281 [[Image:Dark Side Master TotG.jpg|17px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 13:38, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * 1) Hey Grunny, I've been watching you lately with considerable interest. I'm glad to see you keep on truckin. Don't get discouraged, and keep up the good work. —Tommy9281 [[Image:Dark Side Master TotG.jpg|17px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 13:38, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) *Thanks alot Tommy9281, I'll do my best :-).  Grunny  (Talk) 14:29, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Visas Marr

 * Nominated by: * Cylka *  20:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: My first GA nom... please be gentle :)

(1 ACs/5 Users/6 Total)
Support
 * 1) Very good for a first GA. I trust the remainder of NaruHina's objections will be addressed. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 02:19, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Nice one, Fraulein. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 05:13, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 3)  IFYLOFD  ( And now, young Skywalker, you will die. ) 03:42, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 4)  QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force...[[Image:Quigonheadshot.jpg|16px]] 02:45, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 5)  03:37, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 6)  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 01:27, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) IFYLOFD:
 * 2) * "Jedi Master Atris, who was to attend the conclave, leaked knowledge of the meeting, and as a result, the planet was rendered lifeless by Darth Nihilus who was drawn there from the Outer Rim, unable to ignore the chance to consume the power profusion that the planet represented with some of the most powerful Masters of the Jedi Order assembled on a world as rich in the Force as the Miraluka's." Hoo-ey, that's a long sentence. Split it up.
 * 3) **Done. * Cylka *  10:52, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) * "He made her see the galaxy as her people never could, sentients on other planets disconnected from themselves, insensitive to the Force, and she wished to die." What does this sentence mean? Clarify.
 * 5) **Hopefully clarified. * Cylka *  10:52, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) * Add a little info on the Exile's journey.
 * 7) **Added more info. * Cylka *  09:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) * "As they were taken aback by the Sith Lord's devastating powers, the Exile realized Visas was his link to that place," What place?
 * 9) **Identified. * Cylka *  10:52, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) In the BtS, the possible origin of Marr's name is sourced with KotOR II. How is that possible? I doubt the KotOR II would tell the root of her name, in an OOU language no less.
 * 11) **Ugh.. how'd I miss that? Done. * Cylka *  10:52, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) * The BtS is too random and is almost like a trivia section. Try to link some of the facts together.
 * 13) **Hopefully linked. * Cylka * 17:30, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) *Good job.  IFYLOFD  ( And now, young Skywalker, you will die. ) 03:30, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 15) **Thanks! :-) * Cylka *  10:52, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 16) SoresuMakashi
 * 17) * insensitive to the Force, and she wished to die. How does wishing to die have anything to do with the earlier stuff? Also, do you mean see in a literal or figuartive sense? Please clarify.
 * 18) **Hopefully clarified. * Cylka *  10:52, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 19) * This vision severely damaged her Force Sight. What vision? Do you mean the He made her see the galaxy as her people never could bit? The way you write it that sentence does not make it sound like she was having a vision. Similar to my last objection. Clarify/reword.
 * 20) **Redone. * Cylka *  10:52, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 21) * to the surprise and displeasure of certain crew members. Who in particular?
 * 22) * Her heart would finally be put to rest when the time came to accompany the Exile to the flagship of her former master, the Ravager, for their final confrontation. This conflicts with a later statement. Visas took some time to visit her old meditation chamber one last time, finally coming to terms with the destruction of Katarr.
 * 23) ** This has still not been addressed. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 05:02, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 24) ***Reworded the whole thing. Hopefully it clears it up. * Cylka *  09:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 25) * Remove the speculation about her being thoughtful, cautious and deliberating in the P&T. Do, however, keep the commitment bit and remove the probably, as this is proven when she fully devotes herself to helping the Exile stop Nihilus.
 * 26) **Done. * Cylka *  10:52, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 27) *Not bad. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 06:12, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 28) **Just the one objection remaining from me. Also, good work on your other KotOR stuff. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 05:02, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 29) *** :-) * Cylka *  09:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 30) **Thanks a lot for your edits! They really helped. :-) * Cylka *  10:52, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 31) Who else but NaruHina?
 * 32) * The romance section could be expanded. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 13:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 33) **Expanded. * Cylka * 17:30, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 34) ***I would say "So beautiful" but I never liked the male romance in kotor2. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 00:46, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 35) * In the cut content section, try and merge the cut stuff into sectional paragraphs, not just a list.
 * 36) **Paragraphed. * Cylka * 17:30, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 37) * "Visas infiltrated the Ebon Hawk and engaged the Exile in lightsaber combat—only to be defeated, wounded, and have her lightsaber broken. This show of strength prompted Visas to abandon Nihilus and pledge her life to the Exile, who took the now unconscious woman to the medical bay instead of ending her life. This act of mercy was met by surprise from companion and pilot of the Ebon Hawk, Atton Rand..." Wait...what act of mercy? You should put in that she pleaded for the Exile to kill her.
 * 38) **Added it in and reworded a bit. * Cylka *  09:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 39) * "Approximately a year later," This needs a source.
 * 40) **Changed the dates all together since Chronicles of the Old Republic was the only source I could find with a date. I was going by other member's sourcing. We may have a bit of a problem with the dating of the Jedi Conclave of Katarr and Devastation of Katarr. * Cylka *  09:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 41) ***The policy seems to be "While the comic does not specify an exact date for the events in the story, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords gives the date 3,952 BBY as the date of the Jedi Conclave on Katarr, which is considered responsible for the devastation of Katarr." Don't just source it to KotOR2, phrase it so its a shortening of this. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 23:39, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 42) ****But where does TSL give this date? I was saying Chronicles is the only source I could find with a date so other articles might have to be changed. I don't have The New Essential Chronology so I can't check the date there. Neither Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force or Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide have the date. 3,952 BBY isn't in the dialog files and I can't find any dialog in the game that says Well one year ago there was a Concvlave on Katarr....
 * 43) *****I have no idea. Do the dlg files cover written things too? It may have just been in some database or an item somewhere. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 00:21, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 44) ****** Don't know. But if I can't find the date in TSL, then I don't want to source to TSL. I would rather leave the date sourced to something that actually gives me a date. I'll try to see if anyone has ever actually seen the date in TSL. * Cylka *  01:00, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 45) *******It would probably just say "About a year ago" rather than give an actual date.
 * 46) ********I think I've gotten a bit confused now as to which date you're objecting to. 3,951 BBY has been established as the year the Exile came back, so that's the year Visas heard her. Between 3,953 BBY and 3,951 BBY are the only dates I can source for certain as to the Destruction of Katarr. I would really appreciate it if you could clarify this for me. Thanks. * Cylka *  11:17, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 47) *********I'm saying that the characters would probably say something like "About a year ago[...]Katarr was destroyed." Initially, I was objecting to the use of an unsourced "approximtely one year." Now I'm objecting as to what happened in 3,953 BBY that makes it impossible for Katarr to have been destroyed. Also, I'm sure I read it somewhere in the NEC about Katarr but it seems to have dissappeared.  NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 00:36, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 48) **********I asked Drewton to look in The NEC for me and he found nothing there nor in the timeline for the Guide to the Force. As for 3,953 BBY, Wookieepedia has nothing for that date. But anyways, I changed the date back to 3,952 BBY, even though I can't verify it it, because eveyone believes this is the right date. Both dates in the article are sourced now.  * Cylka *  12:58, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 49) * Nothing but the character's name a/o alias's first appearance should be bolded, check the P&T.
 * 50) **Think I fixed this. * Cylka *  09:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 51) ***Oh, sorry, I meant the P&A, nothing in that should be bolded. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 23:58, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 52) ****Think I fixed it. * Cylka * 17:30, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 53) *The article needs to be surced by statement, not by paragraph, per the MoS or was it the sourcing guide....either of those.
 * 54) **Fixed some of the refs. The others I left at the end of the paragraphs since all statements came from one source. At least thats how I think that Sourcing explained it. * Cylka *  09:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 55) ***No, they must be sourced by statement such as "she felt," "Commonly known as," quotes, etc. Many of these paragraphs just need sources for things like that. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 23:58, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 56) ****Think I got them all. * Cylka * 17:30, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 57) *****Looks good NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 23:39, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 58) ******Hey NH. I changed the sourcing per Toprawa. I figured that since he is AC I should go with his recommendation. * Cylka *  03:26, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 59) * "Jedi's object movement power" This either needs a source or should just be call Telekinesis. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 00:17, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 60) **Sourced. * Cylka * 17:30, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 61) ***Not sourced. You must source it directly (Right after the word "power) that it is commonly known as "Jedi's object movement power." Currently, it only sources that is is also known as Telekinesis. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 23:39, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 62) ****Done. * Cylka *  00:07, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 63) *****That has to be the second stupidest name I've ever heard in Star Wars. The first being Soka (Which is in everything) Are you sure its in the JvS? NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 00:21, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 64) ******Pg. 69 JvS. It wasn't an official name, just commonly known as. * Cylka *  01:00, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 65) *******Mind blown NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 06:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 66) * Devestation on Katarr needs to be linked to in the body. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 23:39, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 67) **Devastation of Katarr is linked to in life of the planet in the last sentence in the first paragraph He consumed the life of the planet, sparing naught, aside from Visas. * Cylka *  00:07, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 68) *** The intro and body are not the same, so technically, that is not the first paragraph of the body. Now that I look at it, all of the things in the intro must be linked to in the bio and subsequent sections as well as in the intro. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 00:21, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 69) ****Brainfart NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 00:33, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 70) *****Fixed all the links. * Cylka *  04:49, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 71) *Confucious say: "Good luck with your awticle." NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 13:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 72) **Thanks! * Cylka *  09:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 73) ***Thanks for the edits, Btw. * Cylka *  01:00, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 74) Toprawa:
 * 75) *Cylka, your article looks good so far from a cursory glance. Unfortunately, the sourcing-by-sentence that one objector has you doing is incorrect. This is not how Wookieepedia articles are to be sourced. For example, the first paragraph of the second bio section, beginning, "Visas infiltrated the Ebon Hawk," has five reference notes all referencing the same source. This is unnecessarily redundant. If that paragraph is all sourced to a single item, just leave a single reference note at the end of the paragraph. Individual sentences only need to be sourced if there are multiple references made in a single paragraph. Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:09, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 76) **I fixed up the sourcing. The ones I was unsure of was when there was one sentence from a different source in a paragraph. I sourced each sentence individually before the one with the different source, then I just added the reference note at the end of the paragraph since the rest of the sentences were from the same source. I'm not sure if that was right. * Cylka *  02:58, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 77) ***You still have numerous instances of this redundant referencing throughout. That one paragraph was just a single example.
 * 78) ****Addressed
 * 79) *In the infobox, please make sure no text follows a reference tag without sourcing of its own. There are handful of parenthetical bits that follow a refnote. They should be within each refnote.
 * 80) **Addressed
 * 81) *Also, punctuation is always to precede refnotes. You have at least one instance of punctuation following a refnote in the infobox, if not more in the article. Toprawa and Ralltiir 16:44, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 82) **Addressed <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 00:54, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 83) QuiGon
 * 84) * I think you should use the template in her biography, since it is only one of possible ways of completing the game. You can order her to kill herself or you can forbid her to go to the meditation chambers. There are many choices.
 * 85) **That was a good catch. I actually ended up adding the template since you didn't have to learn Force Sight from her or allow her to go to her meditation chamber, etc.
 * 86) * Also, I think the introduction is a little short.
 * 87) **Expanded the introduction a bit more.
 * 88) *Other than that, good job. QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force...[[Image:Quigonheadshot.jpg|16px]] 19:54, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 89) **Thanks a lot. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 02:35, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 90) From the scratchpad of Atarumaster88
 * 91) *There appears to be a typo in the P&T quote, or at least a missing word.
 * 92) **Fixed I believe. The whole quote was I will return to you... but please, do not harm her... do not what you did to me... I beg you. I added in brackets.
 * 93) ***See, IMO, the missing word is in "do not what you did to me." Is it not "do not do what you did to me", or is Marr missing the word in-game also? Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 15:24, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 94) ****Taken right from the game dialog file Str Refs 100857 & 100859. Its worded the same when the Exile is male. She always did have a strange way of talking in the game. :-)
 * 95) * "Visas Marr's name most likely originates from the Latin word visus (meaning "sight"),[8] and the english verb mar (meaning "damage" or "impair" This is Original Research. Unless someone gives you a source for this, as worded, it's original research. See this link for a way to better phrase such ideas.
 * 96) **Reworded. I believe its fixed. If not, I'll just get rid of it.
 * 97) ***Looks better. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 15:24, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 98) * "a most rare and precious gift" blatant POV.
 * 99) **Gone.
 * 100) *" Following the Destruction of Malachor V, she parted ways with the Exile and returned to Katarr" Unless this isn't from KotOR II, this is only according to a vision and should be appropriately labeled as such. (intro)
 * 101) **Labeled as Darth Traya's prediction.
 * 102) *I have a bad feeling about this article. Not sure why, but something feels sketchy about it. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 18:05, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 103) **Um... I'm not really sure what to make of this. Could you explain it a bit more. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 19:21, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 104) From the full-fledged desk of Atarumaster88
 * 105) * "lure the enemy into the open" Context needed on who this enemy is.
 * 106) * "Taken aboard Nihilus's ship, she awoke to find that although she had been healed of her physical injuries, the flesh where her eyes would have been was brutally removed." This just doesn't make sense to me. How can she be healed and wounded at the same time? Especially since her original injuries weren't described as particularly physical.
 * 107) * "She came to believe that Nihilus fed upon its ugliness and left silence; was bringing stillness and order to where there was chaos." Please clarify.
 * 108) **The issue here is that the phrase after the semicolon is a fragment. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 14:19, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 109) ***Fixed, I believe.
 * 110) * "Visas is made to see." This image caption is vague at best. Please rework.
 * 111) *There are quotes throughout the prose. Please remove them.
 * 112) **Check your loading ramps and "breed difficulties." Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 14:19, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 113) ***Gone.
 * 114) *" It is unknown as to which of these telekinetic forces Visas had mastered" I don't like this. Better to say nothing about the topic than make one of these statements, IMO.
 * 115) **Better, but you probably are missing a reference now. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 14:19, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 116) ***Ref added
 * 117) * "replying that exile should have taught "restraint and discipline in the ways of the flesh." More quotes in prose here, but I believe there's also a "been" missing.
 * 118) * Shouldn't the fight with Nihilus be linked to Duel on the Ravager, and not the Darth Nihilus article?
 * 119) **I believe this is addressed in the next objection.
 * 120) * This incorrect link is still there, under Cut Content. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 14:19, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 121) **Article doesn't exist. I gave the article the name Skirmish aboard the Ravager since the battle included Canderous Ordo, the Exile, Visas and many Mandalorians.
 * 122) ***Never mind. I found some old Senate Hall threads that indicated that the relative article is actually Battle of Telos. Sorry about that; I changed it back to not having a link. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 01:27, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 123) * Please order images in standard left-right order.
 * 124) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 15:24, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I've hopefully resolved these issues. 03:45, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Almost there. ;) Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 14:19, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the spell-checks and edits. Foreign writers with English plug-ins aren't always the best solution. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 21:28, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Wait a sec, Toprawa, you told me that it was supposed to be by the quote, feeling, etc. back when I was sourcing everything for kotor. Though I agree the sourcing may have been a bit to often; it is nessisary to source the opinions of the characters and quotes, redundant or not. --That One Objector NaruHina  Talk  03:42, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I never instructed you to source by sentence, Naru. I'm sorry you interpreted whatever it is I apparently said to you incorrectly. Additionally, I regret you took my objection wording in an insulting manner. Perhaps if you substitute "that one objector" for "which one objector," you might understand. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:22, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Right. And I didn't say sentence by sentence either. I said by "by statement such as "she felt," "Commonly known as," quotes, etc." NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 05:48, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Ja'Gatcha

 * Nominated by: 21:17, 17 December 2008 (UTC) 21:16, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: A quickie.

(2 ACs/3 Users/5 Total)
Support
 * 1) Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 00:28, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) * Cylka *  18:48, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 10:21, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) I always thought these were the weirdest thing in Kotor ... -  Cavalier One [[Image:FarStar Logo.jpg|20px]]( Squadron channel ) 12:09, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 5)  Graestan ( Talk ) 02:02, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Object Comments
 * 1) From the Moffship of Grand Moff Tranner:
 * 2) * Creating Category:Paaerduags would be a good idea.
 * 3) **Done. Hadn't noticed it didn't exist.
 * 4) * Remove the speculation on his death, please. Still mention the bombardment, however.
 * 5) **Removed; figured I went a little far but it was worth a shot, right? :P
 * 6) * Maybe a little more context on the events involving Taris. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 21:31, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) **How so? I mean, concerning what, exactly? 23:18, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) ***Sorry for not explaining. I was thinking maybe a little background on the Jedi Civil War, and why Malak was after Bastila. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 00:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) Cylka:
 * 10) * Maybe add a sentence or two about Taris's severe intolerance of aliens. It could explain why he was insulted soThanky muy muy! much and decided/needed to hide out in Javyar's in the Lower City.
 * 11) **That's a good point. Added a bit on that.
 * 12) * If you come up to him and say you want to stare at the freak, he'll indignantly claim he's the "pinnacle of evolution" and then tell you why humans aren't. Maybe you could fit that in somewhere - Bts?
 * 13) **This was a good catch, because it can definitely fit in with the P&T.
 * 14) *Good job with so little to go on. * Cylka *  03:52, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 15) **Thanks for the read and objections. 16:57, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 16) From Graestan the Mighty:
 * 17) * It's either got to be he or they, and not both, to avoid confusion; I suggest they, using the example of the craftily-worded Xamus/Sumax.
 * 18) **I thought I'd used they throughout the entire article, for the exact reason you mentioned. Fixed instances of he.
 * 19) ***Actually, I meant "he." Sorry, typo. I mean, two heads doesn't really make two individuals. Graestan ( Talk ) 16:30, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 20) ****Ah, but Ja'Gatcha (and the other known Paauerduag) refer to themselves using "we", "us", etc. Plus, the creature actually begins life as two separate units and then becomes one later. 19:39, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 21) *****You mean to tell me that it's a joined being, not a two-headed individual, and that wasn't worthy of description at the beginning of the bio, also? I'm fine with the "they" now, but I'd like you to add something about that to his bio. Graestan ( Talk ) 03:50, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 22) ******You'll note that I actually did that when I mentioned it above. Sorry it wasn't in there earlier, I hadn't realized that fact until later in the game and then forgot about it. 04:54, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 23) * "remained in Javyar's Cantina" might be speculative; did he really stay there the whole time?
 * 24) **Taken care of.
 * 25) * I wouldn't refer to the time period as "circa 4,000 BBY" because that would place it during the Great Sith War.
 * 26) **Specified time.
 * 27) * Perhaps some more quotes? I seem to remember the conversation being pretty interesting.
 * 28) **It is indeed, and I can't believe I forgot to grab some. I'll put 'em in once I get to my desktop.
 * 29) ***Quotes are in. 19:39, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 30) * Gamemechanics around a description of the interaction with Revan would be permissible, and preferable in my opinion. Also, wording avoiding the term "is unknown" would be better in the Bts.
 * 31) **Well... the thing is, such a description would consist of "Revan visited them as they hid out in a dark corner of the cantina." It doesn't really add that much, plus the Gamemechanics template looks really ugly for one sentence. I'm willing to put it in, though, but I just want you to know what it'd be like ;)
 * 32) ***You can add more than one sentence based on the conversation. Graestan ( Talk ) 16:30, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 33) ****Yeah, but what's the benefit? Nothing of value that isn't already in the article is added, and would just feel extraneous. I can think of "The Paaerduag lamented their condition to the former Sith Lord", but the template is still quite ugly. I'm putting it in, though. 19:39, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 34) *****It's not extraneous. It makes the article complete. From Rule 9: "For articles under 1000 words in length, comprehensive detail is required with all information covered from all sources and appearances." Is there yet more to be added, as well? Graestan ( Talk ) 03:50, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 35) ******No, nothing else, unless I'm missing something somewhere. No, it should be all taken care of. ;) 04:54, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 36) * Graestan ( Talk ) 01:58, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 37) ** 15:47, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 38) Toprawa:
 * 39) *Beginning the second introduction sentence with "They" is extremely confusing without prior knowledge that his species is somehow some sort of plural entity. Some context is necessary here, please: "They later became stranded on Taris..." Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:36, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 40) *Contextified for both. 20:37, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Grebleips

 * Nominated by: Lord Hydronium 00:57, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Phone home.

(1 ACs/2 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) Break out the radios! NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 06:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 15:20, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 08:33, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) P&T would be useless and shoehorned. The article already has everything, and gives us everything. Clean, as far as I can see. Thefourdotelipsis 22:48, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) There must be a P&T, per the Layout Guide and Rule 4 above: "…follow the Manual of Style, Layout Guide, and all other policies on Wookieepedia." There are things to be had, such as his interest in extragalactic exploration and his political inclination. Graestan ( Talk ) 15:53, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *13 says it only needs to be included if information is available. It isn't; those things would be assumptions and OR. As for the Layout Guide, it doesn't require any sections, only saying that P&T is "typical". - Lord Hydronium 20:14, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) **The information is available&mdash;I'm not suggesting you make conclusions as to Grebleips's overall intentions, just that you explain what he did, what distinguished him as a Senator. Graestan ( Talk ) 23:19, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) ***I don't know what I can say that's not already in there. It's already mentioned that he was part of the Delegation of 2000 and funded an extragalactic survey, so that would just be repeating information—even worse when it's so short. - Lord Hydronium 05:26, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * No P&T information, so no P&T. - Lord Hydronium 00:57, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Graestan has a point. When I GA'ed Titus Klev, I essentially reworded a few paragraphs from the Bio and placed them in again as a P&T. I understand where you're coming from, but enough info is there. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 15:07, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * What does that add to the article, though? How does it make it a better article to have it repeat info two sections in a row? - Lord Hydronium 19:41, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree that a P&T would be pointless - after all, I did vote support already. But we do know enough about Grebleips to add in a P&T; we probably know even more about him that I knew about Klev, and I managed to add something into that article. One paragraph is really all I'm asking. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 23:00, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * No offense, but if it's pointless...why add it? We can't even say "the rules demand it", because they don't. I think it would detract from the article by making it extremely redundant. - Lord Hydronium 01:54, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I've struck my vote until the P&T is added. Like I said above, there is enough info for even a short P&T. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 01:41, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Only at the expense of the quality of the article. It's redundant, and like you said, it's pointless. - Lord Hydronium 02:48, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * FWIW, Aris-Del Wari—an infant who appears only in those HoloNet news briefs—has a P&T, though it may be only three lines. Surely something like that would suffice here.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 21:12, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * She has a P&T only because 4dot knew that people would insist upon The Rules saying it needed one (I hope I'm not misrepresenting his position, but that's the impression I've gotten; 4dot, you're welcome to correct me). That said, even she has more information on the character's personality than Grebleips. There is literally no information that is not already part of his biography, and I fail to see how repeating "He was a Senator who funded extragalactic surveys and signed the Petition of 2000" makes for a better article. - Lord Hydronium 22:33, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Darth Nihilus

 * Nominated by:  NaruHina Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 02:25, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Thanks to Cylka for the inspiration and information. Lets make this the first Restored GA!

(1 ACs/3 Users/4 Total)
Support
 * 1) <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 07:21, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  13:54, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 05:22, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 07:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) The BtS is a bit all over the place. Please subsection it as appropriate and break it into proper paragraphs; it looks a bit triviaish at the moment. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 12:23, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *I think I fixed it. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 19:13, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Cylka:
 * 4) * The Trayus Academy kept on producing legions of Sith Lords, Assassins and Marauders, who spread death and the following of the dark side like a disease. What does "the following of the dark side" mean? Please clarify.
 * 5) **Rephrased. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 03:31, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) * As it neared the Miraluka colonized world Katarr, Nihilus spoke, obliterating Katarr How did him speaking obliterate Katarr? Please clarify. Maybe you could add in something to the effect that the Miraluka could hear him through the Force and that his "voice" in the Force was his hunger, therefore hearing him = death.
 * 7) **Rephrased. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 03:31, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) * [...]the Dark Lord seemed too strong to defeat, then the Exile learned of his weakness and turned the tide. Visas also entered into a trance and tried to disrupt the link with her former Master, undermining his connection to the Force. This makes it sound like they both were in a trance, although I'm pretty sure only Visas was in a trance. Please reword.
 * 9) **And rephrased. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 03:31, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) * With Traya gone, the Sith were left with no defined leadership and many factions arose, all seeking to take what little remained of Revan's Sith Empire. However, Nihilus and Sion were now the leaders of the Sith. These statements appear to contradict each other. I know what you mean, but others may not. Reword to say that they became the leaders because they got rid of Traya.
 * 11) **Rephrased. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 05:03, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) * Give an actual date for the conclave and destruction of Katarr. I actually found a definitive source for the date; I changed all the articles to reflect this. You can find it there. * Cylka *  11:21, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 13) **Fixed it. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 05:03, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) *Good job with adding a lot of info to the article. * Cylka *  02:40, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 15) **Thank you. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 03:31, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 16) Soresu
 * 17) * it killed all but a few of those who were crushed on the planet's surface. This does not make sense. It sounds as if it killed almost everyone, and then the survivors were crushed.
 * 18) **Fixed NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 02:02, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 19) * Using the Force, he was able to keep his robes, armor and mask together, giving him some form, allowing him to use his Force powers and wield a lightsaber, but apart from that he had no longer a physical form and he became simple primitive intention. Break this sentence up.
 * 20) **Done NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 02:02, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 21) * I would suggest integrating the third paragraph of 'Encounter with Visas Marr' with the second. This is so you can say that the conclave was the original reason why Nihilus had come to the planet. You should probably add the intentional info leak by Atris and that it was meant to be a trap for him. I'll take a look at the rest in a few hours. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 22:11, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 22) **Merged NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 10:50, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 23) * The 'Downfall' section is out of chronology. Please put it into the correct order of events.
 * 24) **Done NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 10:50, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 25) **Sorry about not getting this stuff last night (I had a blackout while writing), but the second and third paragraphs are still not in order. For example, the disturbance in the Force, Visas' joining the Exile, and the end of the Onderon Civil War all occurred after the destruction of the mining facility. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 22:01, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 26) *** I'm not seeing where it is out of chronology. Could you please quote where you see it. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 11:47, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 27) ****Nevermind, reading at 3:30AM does things to the mind. I think I fixed it.
 * 28) * The hunger he possessed was a means of severing connections between life, the Force, and feeding upon the death it caused the closer he came to it. Reword. Also, what was he coming closer to? SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 03:06, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 29) **No clue there. Removed. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 08:31, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 30) Chack Attack:
 * 31) * "Under the tutelage of Darth Traya he became one of the three Dark Lords of the Sith at the time, the Sith Triumvirate, under the title of the Lord of Hunger, the others being Traya and Darth Sion." This is phrased a bit poorly.
 * 32) **Rephrased? NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 11:57, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 33) * "An emptiness swept over his body and it soon began hungering. Without meaning to, he drained the life of someone; it was an unpleasant experience, but for a brief moment the hunger ceased, only to come back more relentless than before." This should also be rephrased.
 * 34) **I'm not sure of how I could rephrase it and people in the IRC think its fine. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 23:29, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 35) ***Right, don't worry about it then.
 * 36) * "his voice a great hunger heard" Can you hear hunger? :P Seriosuly, I know what you're trying to say, but it could written better here.
 * 37) **Got it NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 22:42, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 38) * "The situation on Onderon got out of hand" Too colloquial.
 * 39) **A two birds with one stone fix. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 23:43, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 40) * "learned of his weakness" What was his weakness?
 * 41) **Got it. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 11:57, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 42) *Very good job. I'd suggest taking this to FA when it passes GA (only if you feel you're ready, of course).  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 21:36, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * I'm horrible with BtS reviewing, so I won't do that. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 03:06, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Garrbo V'Droz

 * Nominated by:  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 19:38, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: My first from-scratch GA.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 19:38, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

(3 ACs/1 Users/4 Total)
Support
 * 1) I've put the intro quote on QOTD. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 02:00, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Cull Tremayne 03:45, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) -  Cavalier One [[Image:FarStar Logo.jpg|20px]]( Squadron channel ) 11:55, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Interesting. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:48, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Infobox.  SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 03:02, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *Can't believe I missed that. Fixed.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 13:43, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Garrbo's brother was killed because he knew the way through the maze. How did he know? Was he working as the contruction foreman on Mount Tantiss?  SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 21:31, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) *Yeah. Thought that was in there. Oh well. It is now.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 22:03, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) **It was there partially (bio, 1st paragraph). You say that he was a construction foreman, but you don't specify that he was involved in the Mt. Tantiss operation. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 02:00, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) Toprawa:
 * 7) * I've added TTS to the Source list. Irregardless if the information is just repeated, it needs to be included in the list. Thus, you now have multiple sources and need to ref the article. Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:48, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) **I couldn't find any sort of policy, but now that I look around some more, I see this thing repeated in other articles. Thanks for the heads-up. The article is now referenced.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 17:39, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) ***Yup, thanks. I probably wouldn't call it a "policy," but if you recall from a somewhat recent CT, a proposal was put forth to omit from Source lists redundant sources in which information is just repeated that was roundly defeated for the sake of comprehensiveness. I'm far too lazy to dig this thing up. :P Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:48, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * If I'm not mistaken, The Thrawn Trilogy Sourcebook is simply a compilation of the three individual sourcebooks (ie Heir to the Empire Sourcebook, Dark Force Rising Sourcebook, etc.). So do we know what exact sourcebook this guy appears in? Or is he actually unique to the compilation? Either way, a BtS note could be crammed in there methinks. Cull Tremayne 23:02, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * He actually first appears in The Last Command Sourcebook. Being unable to find a policy on this, I simply listed The Thrawn Trilogy Sourcebook, but now, I think it should be changed.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 00:09, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks good. Cull Tremayne 03:45, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the read.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 19:49, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Xamus/Sumax

 * Nominated by: -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 21:54, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:

(3 ACs/1 Users/4 Total)
Support
 * 1) Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 15:38, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 02:13, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) -  Cavalier One [[Image:FarStar Logo.jpg|20px]]( Squadron channel ) 11:52, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 4)  Graestan ( Talk ) 01:58, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) * As Tranner said, it is not categorised (I hereby declare war on American spelling).
 * 2) **Categorized.
 * 3) ***Grrrr!
 * 4) * Should we be using 'he' or 'they'? Ja'Gatcha, which has also been nommed, has opted for the latter, despite having only a single body. The 'unlikely allies' and P&T quotes show that they were referred to as separate, maybe the article should do the same.
 * 5) **It's only one person, so he is more appropriate. "They" is used to refer to the heads/personalities, but "he" is used to refer to the body, so to speak. "He" is used in CSWE, too.
 * 6) ***Fair enough.
 * 7) * He did not partake in violence, seeking to avoid confrontation, and his two arms were far thinner than the two controlled by the left head. Don't you mean the right head? This also occurs in two more instances the right head requested that his peer do as they were told and The left head was the antithesis of his brother. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 11:13, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) **It's his left head, from his point of view, not from ours. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 11:31, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) **Strange I din't notice that. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 02:13, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) From Graestan the Mighty:
 * 11) * "being a peaceful, gentle being" is a bit awkward.
 * 12) **I altered it a bit; is that to your liking?
 * 13) * "who was alone in a clearing, after cleansing it of any other sentient presence" – I'm pretty sure I catch your drift, but nonetheless I believe this should be worded in a more straightforward fashion.
 * 14) **Reworded and changed it a bit to read more from Twohead's perspective.
 * 15) * I believe the term "brother" should be dropped for clarity; the physiological information is not available.
 * 16) **Fair point; addressed.
 * 17) * Graestan ( Talk ) 01:43, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 18) **Thank you for the review. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 11:47, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * If only we knew which head was Xamus and which was Sumax. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 21:54, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * No categories?! Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 02:52, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Whoops. Now categorized. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 11:31, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Chiraneau

 * Nominated by: Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 16:53, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: With help from 71.233.247.70.

(4 ACs/1 Users/5 Total)
Support
 * 1) All that in a day? You should have gotten the anon to nom it, that way we would have had our first anon GA : ) 09:06, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Uh-oh, cutting in on Tope's ESB/ROTJ extras.  Graestan ( Talk ) 00:31, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) After a hefty copy-edit. Keep the extrapolation out. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:53, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) The previous, pre-Tope's copyedit version strayed way too far from the subject, but it looks fine now. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 17:09, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) -  Cavalier One [[Image:FarStar Logo.jpg|20px]]( Squadron channel ) 11:30, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * I'm sorry, but can't you find any unique info for the P&T? Half of it doesn't even have to do with his personally, it's just restated info. DC 02:05, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * There's no other info on him. And while there may not be anything on his personality, the P&T shows his traits. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 15:19, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * DC was on about this in # wookieepedia the other night. I'm of the opinion that a little rewording to highlight the character aspect of the information would make it much more acceptable, but otherwise, I don't believe that the very existence of the P&T can be objected to. There are rules asking for the information if it's available, and clearly there is information pertaining to what a P&T entails. There are not, however, rules stating that a P&T should not be included for any specific reason. Graestan ( Talk ) 04:02, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * 631 words. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 16:53, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

COO cook droid

 * Nominated by:  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 19:39, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Incredibly interesting. Prepare to be awed.

(1 ACs/1 Users/2 Total)
Support
 * 1) Can't find anything wrong with it, much to my chagrin. 06:42, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Supporting on the basis that Graestan's objections will be dealt with. -  Cavalier One [[Image:FarStar Logo.jpg|20px]]( Squadron channel ) 13:08, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) From Graestan the Mighty:
 * 2) *No AOTC quote!?
 * 3) **the only quotes COO2-180 (I think; see below) has are "No droids in the food line!", "Get out of here!", and "Hey, no droids!". I can use one if you think they're any good.
 * 4) ***I see no harm in it; in fact, I'm for including the movie line since it's what people will associate the droid model with. Graestan ( Talk ) 04:07, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) *Have you looked at the FactFile in question? If not, I'd consider it; FactFiles often have a thing or two to offer.
 * 6) **I've put our firendly Bothan on it.
 * 7) *Third and fourth paragraphs of "Specifications" can be merged with ease. Actually, you might want to have a look at that whole section, sorting data by relevance.
 * 8) * "the ship began transporting refugees affected by the Separatist Crisis, and the growing Separatist movement known as the Confederacy of Independent Systems." The last part is either missing some element or is pretty redundant with the first bit.
 * 9) **Reworded.
 * 10) * Graestan ( Talk ) 01:15, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) *AOTC novelization? Graestan ( Talk ) 02:03, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 12) **It talks about a server briefly. However, the server is not identified as droid or organic, so per the film, I'm assuming it's COO-2180.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 02:00, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 13) ***But no link in the Appearances? And no information to be gleaned from the novelization? Graestan ( Talk ) 04:07, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 14) AOTC junior novelization to check, too. Graestan ( Talk ) 04:08, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * 894 words, much to my chagrin.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 19:39, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Brianna

 * Nominated by: 21:23, 4 January 2009 (UTC-8)
 * Nomination comments: First GA attempt! Hope it's up to the test!

(1 ACs/1 Users/2 Total)
Support
 * 1) <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 22:42, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 2)  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 17:40, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) From the squadron briefing of Cavalier One: Consider these to be preliminary objections; deal with these, and then I will read the actual article.
 * 2) *Infobox is unsourced.
 * 3) *Many paragraphs in the main body and Bts are unsourced.
 * 4) *Poorly placed quote in main body of article - should be at the top under a section heading.
 * 5) *Turn the bulleted list in the Cut content section into prose. - Cavalier One [[Image:FarStar Logo.jpg|20px]]( Squadron channel ) 10:33, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) ** Cylka and NaruHina have graciously taken care of these, I'll get on the others today. 23:03, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) Cylka:
 * 8) * In the P&T I would include more about her fascination with Jedi and their relics, knowledge, etc. This would play a big role in why she became the historian after Atris. The Exile has a long conversation with her about this stuff. I would also include something about her thinking that individual identity isn't important, only the whole, her oaths, etc. It plays a big part in why she finally decides to be Brianna and not just one of the Handmaidens.
 * 9) * I would put the whole Darth Nihilus inconsistency in Bts and maybe expand on it a bit.
 * 10) * I would expand on the Visas and Brianna competition for the male Exile in Bts. You can look at the Visas Marr article to get an idea about it.
 * 11) * The cut content could be expanded a bit more also and it needs to be sourced. Again you can look at Visas and the Team Gizka cut content web site. If you need help with sourcing the game dialog files let me know and I can help with that.
 * 12) * Maybe put something in about the Echani etiquette rituals and what that might mean to Brianna sparring with the male Exile. Atton and Brianna have a funny cut-scene about it. Kreia also mentions something about what would happen if Brianna completely submitted to the male Exile during their sparring.
 * 13) *Its looking good. If you need some help, let me know. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 16:06, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 14) **Done! 07:15, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 15) From the scratchpad of Atarumaster88
 * 16) * Excessive linking really needs cleaned up. It's just . . . ugh. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 18:13, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 17) **Could you point out the section(s) you think are problematic? I haven't really noticed that as a problem, but then again, I'm unsure as to what an ideal number of links would be. I'll get on it as soon as I know where the problem is. 22:37, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 18) ***I think I can clear up the issue. The way linking works is that an item is linked upon first mention in the intro, upon first mention in the infobox (if applicable), upon first mention in an image caption (again, where applicable), and on first mention in the main body/P&T/P&A/BtS. So, for example, if you linked to Atris in the main body of the article (biography), there would not be another link to Atris in the Personality and traits section. Cheers. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 15:28, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 19) **** Got it. As always, thanks for the feedback Ataru, I'll work on that immediately. 01:36, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 20) **** I think I fixed the problem! Let me know if there's anything else! 01:53, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 21) From the full-fledged desk of Atarumaster88
 * 22) *" After Kreia revealed her true intentions" Context? What are those intentions?
 * 23) **Hopefully clarified.
 * 24) * The intro should state that Brianna's post TSL future was only a prediction by Kreia, and not state it as fact.
 * 25) **Done.
 * 26) * "Although it was confirmed that Brianna accompanied the Exile during her travels, in the game itself, she would only accompany the Exile if the player was male. Otherwise, she would be replaced by Mical" This doesn't make sense and seems to be missing a reference. KotOR II certainly didn't confirm that Brianna traveled with the female Exile.
 * 27) **Added refs.
 * 28) * "to become a very skilled and powerful Jedi Guardian." POV
 * 29) **Gone. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 21:53, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 30) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 14:31, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

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 * New nominations go at the end of the list, not inserted in between pre-existing nominations. Toprawa and Ralltiir 06:24, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm REALLY sorry about that, I did have it at the bottom of the list when I was editing, but I left for a while and when I hit save, there was another entry that had been submitted, and I guess mine just got inserted in between. Sorry again! 22:53, 4 January 2009 (UTC-8)

Trask Lucan

 * Nominated by: QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force...[[Image:Quigonheadshot.jpg|16px]] 11:37, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: I can't believe I managed to get it to 376 words

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 * 1) Toprawa:
 * 2) * Article requires a divide between introduction and biography. Toprawa and Ralltiir 15:46, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) **Addressed. I thought it was too short to have the introduction and biography sections, but if you say so... QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force...[[Image:Quigonheadshot.jpg|16px]] 16:42, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) ***Unless the article is stub, no article will be too short that it shouldn't have an introduction and a biography. Moreover, all Character articles, such as this one, should conform to Wookieepedia's Layout Guide for Character articles, which you will see requires a "Biography" section. Finally, as a reinforcement of the Layout Guide, GAN Rule 7 states that an article must "…have a proper lead that gives a good summary of the topic if the length of the article supports it. This is essential in articles over 1000 words but may not be appropriate on articles with limited content." And also, GAN Rule 9 reads that articles must "…have significant information, especially a biography for character articles." Should you indeed find that article writing is for you, I would strongly recommend familiarizing yourself with both the Layout Guide and the GAN rules. Toprawa and Ralltiir 00:52, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) ****if the length of the article supports it. That's what confused me. I thought it didn't support. After re-reading the Layout guide, I understand I was wrong. QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force...[[Image:Quigonheadshot.jpg|16px]] 10:03, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) The intro is supposed to be a summary of the biography, so it shouldn't include unique info. I also suspect this could be fleshed out considerably. I.e. you say he was a New Republic agent in the first sentence but don't elaborate on that at all later. Things should be in chronological order. "Lucan was stranded on the planet Glova after the planetary governor Tegist Byrg set him up and confiscated his ship, the Lucan's Nightmare" should start off with a mention that he had a ship then mention he was set up - and elaborate on it if info's availible - and then say he was stranded. As is, detail and elaboration throughout the article is quite hazy. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 17:05, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) **OK, I've reworded the article. The problem is that it is not elaborated on how was he set up, how he obtained the ship, joined the New Republic, why didn't he ask the ambassador for help in the first place, etc. in the source. It just gives the facts. QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force...[[Image:Quigonheadshot.jpg|16px]] 18:08, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

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 * Redlinks...I'll get rid of them someday (maybe)

Black Vulkars

 * Nominated by: Nayayen [[Image:Old Republic military symbol.png|18px]] Transmit words at me 22:24, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:My first GAN, hopefully I've managed it.

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 * 1) From the Moffship of Grand Moff Tranner:
 * 2) * Remove the ref from the intro. Refs are to be used everywhere but the introduction.
 * 3) **Adressed.
 * 4) * Is 3,956 BBY as the date of dissolution specifically stated as such in a source? If not, remove it.
 * 5) **Removed.
 * 6) * "It is quite likely that the remaining Vulkars were killed during Darth Malak's orbital bombardment of the city." - Same thing with my previous objection. There should be no speculation in the article.
 * 7) **Removed.
 * 8) * Remove the links in the quote under "Viewpoint;" instead, explain who is being spoken of after Brejik's name.
 * 9) **Adressed.
 * 10) * List of known members should be sourced, and all names should be linked.
 * 11) **Adressed.
 * 12) *Nothing from the KOTOR handbook, or Labor Pains?
 * 13) **I have the former and there is only a brief mention. I don't have the latter so I don't know. Would it best to put the appearances (KotOR 3, 22 & game) in as sources also?
 * 14) ***If they're already listed as an appearance, there's no need to put them in again as sources. You should probably find someone who has access to Labor Pains and ask them if there is any new information there. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 00:35, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 15) *I'll read through it once these objections are taken care of. Overall, it looks pretty good for your first GAN; keep up the good work. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 00:31, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 16) Cylka:
 * 17) *The infobox needs to be sourced correctly. I've done a couple to show you how it needs to be done. Also you can look here for more sourcing information.
 * 18) **Attempted to correct and have now wrecked the info-box without quite knowing how. I can't find why nor do I have enough time right now to fix it. If someone could at least tell me what I've done wrong it would be immensely helpful.
 * 19) ***It seems that you simply forgot to add a "}}" at the end. The infobox is a template and I'm really not good at explaining them but just check for either this problem or you may have accidentally done " ." I make the second mistake all the time, myself. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 05:42, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 20) ****OK, the infobox was fixed by Jaymach and/or NH. I redid the correct format using Benno in the infoxbox as an example, but I'll add it here as well: Notice the    at the end of the reference. This is done only in the infobox.
 * 21) *There are too many redundant ref tags in the article and the Bts needs to be sourced. See above link. If you need more help, let me know.
 * 22) *You might want to include something about Mission saying how she swiped the card to the base from a drunk Vulkar - it further reinforces their incompetency.
 * 23) *Also include something about that Twi'lek that used to be a Vulkar before Brejik took over. Revan meets him when they break in. He just gives more support to how the Vulkars changed.
 * 24) * When the Mandalorians invaded the Vulkars were more into looting than anything else, according to Gadon. You should include that.
 * 25) **I had, the second paragraph in 'History'.
 * 26) ***Erk. Sorry missed that.
 * 27) *When you mentioned slavery, maybe put something in about that waitress that Revan meets in their base.
 * 28) *There seem to be some linking missing, for example: Bastila's destroyed ship should link to the Endar Spire, mercenaries that Davik hired should be linked. Just check through. You'd be surprised at how many things you can link to on the Wook.
 * 29) **Done.
 * 30) ***A bit was done, but still mercenary remains and some more links having to do with swoop bike, swoop racing, swoop gangs, etc. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 22:26, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 31) ****Added more.
 * 32) *Add in something to the effect that Davik hired Canderous Ordo and he was good at keeping the Vulkars in line. They were scared of him, as seen during the first time Revan meets/sees Canderous in the Lower city.
 * 33) *Its looking good. There's not a lot of info out there about the Vulkars so you really need to put in as much detail as possible. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 02:24, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 34) The Death Note
 * 35) *The intro could use some expansion.
 * 36) *Key Members should include Kandon Ark and Benno.
 * 37) * Members section needs to be sourced.
 * 38) **Done as mentioned by Moff Tranner.
 * 39) * "Many of the Vulkars were Kadas'sa'Nikto, although there were also Twi'leks, Humans, Duros, Aqualish, Rodians, Gamorreans, Ithorians[2]and Drovians[1]among their ranks." Should not be part of the History section. Relegate it to the Bts or the Members section.
 * 40) **Done.
 * 41) * Battle of Taris needs to be linked to in the article. Link to it through orbital bombardment.
 * 42) **Done.
 * 43) *I'm sure there is cut content relating to the Vulkars.
 * 44) **The only cut content I could find is an extra level of their base which I wouldn't think should be in this article, just the base.
 * 45) ***It is relative to the Vulkars therefore you should add it to the Bts in a Cut Content subsection. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 23:49, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 46) *It should mention that many Vulkars fleed the Skirmish at the Opener, it could be used to show their incompetence/cowardice, etc.
 * 47) *In the Key Members section, each character should have a self reflective quote at the head. See Kotor and TotJ Main Character sections to see good examples of this. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 05:52, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Pretty good, a nostalgic read. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 05:56, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

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Vildar Blin

 * Nominated by: Toprawa and Ralltiir 06:40, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:

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 * 1)  Graestan ( Talk ) 04:48, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) -  Cavalier One [[Image:FarStar Logo.jpg|20px]]( Squadron channel ) 13:17, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

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 * I'll kill the template redlink in short order. Toprawa and Ralltiir 06:40, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Mission to Prakith

 * Nominated by: —Tommy9281 [[Image:Dark Side Master TotG.jpg|17px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 06:52, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Nomination comments: None.

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 * 1) --Jinzler 21:42, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 2)  Grunny  (Talk) 13:30, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

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 * Just to note for people who haven't read it yet, this contains a major spoiler for the most recent Legacy issue. It's not a prominent part of the article and is only a small mention but it's still a major spoiler. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 16:48, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for adding the template. Also, the text is bolded in the comic, so it is also bolded the same way in the quote lines. —Tommy9281 [[Image:Dark Side Master TotG.jpg|17px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 17:11, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Eh, fair enough. I just think it looks pretty bad, and, dare I say it, unencyclopedic/unprofessional, and certainly unnecessary. If a phrase was double-sized, underlined and bright orange in a comic, presumably we wouldn't be doing <font color="orange" face="hurry up">   this      in its Wookieepedia quote. Anyway, maybe I'll put it for discussion at the mofference. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 18:27, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I hear you. I did it like that for cosistency, but it looks kinda gawdy to me also. I wouldn't mind changing it be unbold, as long as noone objects for some kind of formality reason. —Tommy9281 [[Image:Dark Side Master TotG.jpg|17px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 18:47, 9 January 2009 (UTC)