User talk:SavageBob

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Lutrillian mugshot
If you don't use the image it in an article soon, it's going to end up deleted by 's weekly unused image purge. -  JMAS  Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 20:28, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's being used in the Lutrillian article as a soft link to the image, so I'll just delete it from his list once it gets updated. I've done this before with images in Ranat, for example. ~ SavageBob 20:33, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Action Figure Archive: R3 astromech
See my talk page for the answer to your inquiry.--DannyBoy7783 02:25, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

A favor
Hey, I heard that you have the Star Wars: Episode I Insider's Guide. When you have some time, could you please see if there is any information on Lott Dod? Thanks in advance. Grand Moff Tranner (Comlink) 18:56, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll check for you this weekend. ~ SavageBob 20:48, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Dod is mentioned three times in the program, plus there is a trivia question about him where you have to choose his image out of four Neimoidian characters from the film. The text mentions of him are here. Hope this helps! ~ SavageBob 01:38, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 01:39, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Linking colors
Hey Bob,

Sorry I took this long to respond. I asked a couple of folks, and there's really nothing stating that color disambigs should be treated differently than regular ones, though no one that I talked to spoke against it. It was just a practice I picked up along the way, but if you feel comfortable removing the links I have no problem with that. —Tommy 9281  ( Mechno-chair )
 * Thanks for the followup. I think I'll continue to not link them, but I won't revert you or anyone else who wants to link them if they choose to do so. :) ~ SavageBob 15:51, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

A bit late, but anyway...
...congrats on becoming the Wookieepedian of the month! :P -- Xd 14:15, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nah, it won't be too late until April. :) Thanks! ~ SavageBob 17:18, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okey, let's see: I congratulate you on your personal victory in the WotM race but I personally regret that the nomination you made, for which I thank you, did not win. But I cannot wish you better luck next time. Anyway, believe it or not, I'm glad you are WotM before I can become one. Skippy Farlstendoiro 11:36, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm glad things seem to be working out (knock on wood). Thanks for your kind words, and I look forward to being able to return them next month. :) ~ SavageBob 15:47, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, El Skandito! Thank you for your support and for taking the time to write a congratulation line. Everything is proceeding as you had foreseen. Yay! Skippy Farlstendoiro 08:05, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Skandit
You know you could put Skandit straight up for FA? It's long enough, and will be even further over with an intro expansion. Short FANs like this should get through far quicker than those the length of Xamster... --Eyrezer 02:13, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Good point. I sometimes forget that some shorter stuff is OK for FA as well! I'll take it there instead. ~ SavageBob 03:13, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * By the way, despite my initial edit summary, there probably is some new Squib info in the Mos Eisley Adventure Set. --Eyrezer 21:58, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up! I'll check it out. ~ SavageBob 04:39, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Question
You have left us! Hey, wait. It's April 1st today. Hmm. :P -- 1358  (Talk) 10:51, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Whatever do you mean? I never went anywhere! ;P ~ SavageBob 01:43, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Objection
About the neutrality of the ZH during the Galactic Civil War, did you read about it in the Essential Atlas? It wasn't in my notes. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 07:18, April 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, from the section on Clyngunn in the article, it sounds like the Imperials were trying to ensure he adhered to his species' neutrality. I could have misread it, but I was taking that from the article itself. ~ SavageBob 16:13, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

CineManga
Hey Bob. As far as I know, the TokyoPop CineMangas are the international versions, if you will, of the PhotoComics. You could probably add the ANH PhotoComic to the Yam'rii list based on that. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:35, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think you're right; the covers are identical. Which begs the question of whether they should be treated as separate articles at all, but I guess I'll work with it for now. ~ SavageBob 17:42, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * FWIW, I believe they're produced by different publishers. *shrugs*. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:44, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Episode I Insider's Guide
Hey SavageBob. As you're the only person I know on the site who has access to the Star Wars: Episode I Insider's Guide, I was wondering if you could get some info for me. I'm looking for any mentions of Quinlan Vos and Eeth Koth, as I intend to work on both. Thank you for your time.  CC7567  (talk) 21:51, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure; I'll take a look tonight or tomorrow. ~ SavageBob 22:20, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay. Thanks very much; your help is really appreciated.  CC7567  (talk) 19:45, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Phuii
I see you are working on the Phuii page. Looking at the top quote on that page, that quote in not from the stated source. You might want to find another quote to replace it with if you are planning to get it up to FA or GA status. -  JMAS  Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 22:48, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up. I accidentally misattributed the quote, but it should be OK now. ~ SavageBob 23:02, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

Unknown Regions Species
Hey, SavageBob, I was hoping you could help me with something. I've been unable to find some of the species you listed in the Unknown Regions appearances entry. In no way am I doubting you, it's just that I've read most of the book, but I may have missed some mentions. I was hoping you'd be able to tell me what sections or chapters you found Arized, Kanzer Exiles, Taurannix, Velmoc, and Xaxax. Again, I'm not trying to second-guess you at all, I'm only hoping to work on expanding or creating these articles, and yet I'm unable to find them in the book. If you're able, please help me out! Thanks --Demos Traxen 18:19, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Brief edit - I just found the Kanzer Exiles and the Taurannix mentions in the Sorcerers of Rhand entry, though I'm not sure the Taurannix is a species. It could be an individual or organization.--Demos Traxen 18:23, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * This is why we should require page references on all our articles! :) You're right that Taurannix may not be a species. Let's see... Xaxax is an extinct species mentioned on p. 69; the Arized are mentioned in the "Surfeik Cruiser" entry on p. 154; and the Velmoc (as "Velmorians") are mentioned in the Ycaqt entry on pp. 63–64. As I read through the rest of the book, I'll try to be sure to include when I add a species to the list. ~ SavageBob 18:59, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the page numbers! I think we're almost done, species-wise, with this book. All that's left, unless I've missed some names, is the Near-Human species throughout the book... I'll get to those soon! It's a shame they didn't have more time or room on this book - in Daniel Wallace's blog, it seems very clear that he wished to put a lot more new info in the book! --Demos Traxen 00:10, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, I just said "book" too many times in that comment. Got a little excited.--Demos Traxen 00:11, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ha ha, no worries! My main beef with the, er, book is that the sample planets in it are not at all unknown. Most of them have been known to the outside galaxy in one form or another for millennia, and some have even had conflicts with the Jedi, the Sith, the Mandalorians, the Empire, etc. It's pretty silly. The book should have been called Wild Space, since that would make more sense. I was expecting to find the Unknown Regions to be its own sort of closed-off region with minimal contact with the outside. A brand new area for outsiders to explore, where they find that the politics are more about how the Chiss deal with the O'reenians, not how the O'reenians deal with the Jedi or whatever. Bleh. ~ SavageBob 02:08, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I agree with the statement about the planets. It seemed that only 244 Core had a self-contained history. The planets were definitely more Wild Space (especially O'reen), but I think the Threats section was extremely well done, creating a sort of alternate galaxy, with common threats like the Vagaari and Mnggal-Mnggal, the Lugubraa (basically the Rodians and Gammoreans of the UR), and a law and order species in the Chiss. Daniel Wallace said in his blog that he was definitely trying to create a separate world, where even though trade and interactions of any kind were dangerous and sporadic, there was still an overarching community to the Unknown Regions. That turned out to be my favorite idea of the book, and obviously considering my recent edits on here, the part I most embraced. Now if I only actually played the game... --Demos Traxen 18:00, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

The Snoot
Hey Bob,

Check Has some additional info about the Sy Snootles puppet that you might be interested in for your Pa'lowick project. Menkooroo 07:32, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Cool, thanks for the link! I'll be sure to add the info to the article when I get back to focusing on ol' Sy and her kin. ~ SavageBob 17:41, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Amidala Award
Haha, I didn't know they had an award for that. But, thanks. I try to help where I can. :D --Bella&#39;Mia 06:22, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Admin
Please e-mail me at your earliest convenience. Thanks. Graestan ( Talk ) 16:47, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure. Done. ~ SavageBob 17:55, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Stats
Sure. You know how I do this stuff. You'll get the info in the usual Maglev. Skippy Farlstendoiro 06:50, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Procedure CT
Hey, Bob. Just letting you know that we've tweaked the wording of the CT on procedure so that a reply is not required. The new wording features this clause removed from option one: "All users who have cast votes prior to the desired change to be included are directly contacted and have expressed either their approval or rejection of said change by commenting under their vote, or the alteration to the vote is rendered invalid." Thanks. &mdash; Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 19:59, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Delphanian
Do you want to GA these guys? Looks like you've already largely worked on it. --Eyrezer 20:58, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * The history section needs expansion with information about their role in Death Troopers, and I won't have time to do it for a while. They should eventually be GA'd, yeah, but don't hesitate to take over if you were considering them. ~ SavageBob 22:10, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok. I'm just reading Death Troopers at the moment. I may do some work on it. I know of two others that could be GANed without too much effort - Neo-Bespinian and Kon'me - and I am also thinking about whether I can get a bit more info for Unidentified Cilpar species. And then I also need to continue working on Revwien and pick up Xi Charrian again! --Eyrezer 22:32, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, cool; do take notes on the Delphanians as you go, then. My least favorite part of researching species articles is reading through the novels for their role in them, since I usually don't have time to read the novel properly. :) Those other articles look good; I'm working on Geelan for a potential FA run before I take my Wookieebreak, but it's a longshot that I'll get it done in time. ~ SavageBob 23:10, May 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Yuvernian
Holy crap! I figured you and Skippy would review the article, but that was mega-quick. Thank you for that. If you could help me out with The art of ROTJ and Behind the Magic I'd be very grateful. And the manga if you have it? Thanks so much! Menkooroo 15:33, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Scratch Manga. Got it. Menkooroo 15:37, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Kobok
Hey, I was wondering if you think Kobok might be able to be nominated for Good Article status. I don't think there's enough source material out there for FA, but I think it's a pretty good write-up. Any thoughts?--Demos Traxen 00:22, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * I actually have quite a lot of notes taken on the species that would probably push it into the FA range. You could always go for GA now, though, and I could expand it later. It's been on my back burner for a long time, so don't hesitate if you want to do stuff with it. ~ SavageBob 02:55, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, let me know if you want to try to expand it more. As long as you promise to source the article to individual page numbers, I can send you my notes on the species, which would show you what still hasn't been added to the article. :) ~ SavageBob 02:59, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd love to! And to do my best sourcing (I know I fail at it, often). Just let me know - I'm always game for reading new information, especially since I thought it had already been exhausted. --Demos Traxen 04:08, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries about the sourcing; we all have to learn somehow, right? This might be a good article for you to practice on. At any rate, much of the information that is not currently in the article comes from reading Geonosis and the Outer Rim Worlds a bit more closely in some cases, from watching the Droids episodes in a few others, and from describing in prose a lot of the features of Kobok that we see in the images we have. Here are my notes: User:SavageBob/Sandbox2. Feel free to edit the page, cross stuff off, do whatever. I'll leave the article to you, DT; make it shine! :) ~ SavageBob 04:41, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey SB, how's it going. I'm still working on the Kobok article, slowly but surely. I do have a few questions however that I hope you can clear up. First of all, your notes say they grow fuzz, which can also grow long enough to be made into pony tails. Was it Gaff that showed this trait, or another Kobok? Since it can't be seen in any images, nor referenced in GATORW, I'm a little vague on that aspect. Thanks!--Demos Traxen 17:11, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, DT. Yeah, my notes say I got that from The Roon Games, so it would be Gaff who demonstrated that trait. Sorry, I didn't explain my system very well, but in the sandbox page with the notes, the parenthetical bit after the note is the source I took it from, so TRG would be The Roon Games. You can probably find the episode by searching it on Google Video or YouTube if you want to see the chin ponytail; it should appear at some point! ~ SavageBob 21:00, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh no, don't worry, I definitely got your system. It was only a matter of matching the initials to the source list. I'll definitely try to hunt down that episode to see his rapid-growth insect beard.--Demos Traxen 00:11, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * One last question before the major edit is complete: How much of Gaff's history is too much for a species article? Including it all seems silly, though he is the only individual Kobok as of now. I wouldn't rule out updating his page myself, with your research, but I didn't want to expand that section on the species page beyond what's acceptable for this site.--Demos Traxen 00:54, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I generally try to keep it down to one or two paragraphs max. You want to cover the arc of his career, but not in too much detail. And if people object that it's not enough, it's always possible to go in and add more later! ~ SavageBob 16:53, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reply
To quote all clone trooper articles, "..was born on the Wild Space planet of Kamino." I believe that "the" should be used, but I'm not 100% sure. If you feel that it is better without "the," feel free to change it back. :) -- 1358  (Talk) 17:48, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Bothan

 * For the pronunciation, I was merely adhering to Wikipedia's "Pronunciation respelling for English" to aid those who do not know how to read the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA). Perhaps a better respelling would be BAW-thin, BAW-thuhn, or BAH-thuhn? Also, by the way, I do understand IPA, and additionally I believe, if the first syllable is pronounced "baw" (as opposed to "bah"), then the IPA transcription of it should be /'bɒθɪn/ (as opposed to /'bɑθɪn/). Wolfdog 15:49, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Image map
Hey Bob. It seems we were both working on the map at the same time. I checked the RC before saving mine on a hunch and so only added in the few GAs in the south that were not in your last edit. Are you now working on the GAs? Doing it systematically is probably the best approach, but I was being a little lazy and just working off the first map I had uploaded. It actually looks pretty cool the way we have it now. --Eyrezer 05:40, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Whoops! Well, I'm done with it for the night, so you should feel free to work all you need to for the next 8 hours or so. :) The FAs should be done, so that leaves only the GAs and CAs. ~ SavageBob 06:06, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Barrckli CAN
Hey, Bob. I'm aware you're not very active right now, but if you get a chance, please check your objection to the Barrckli CA nom, as it appears to have been addressed a while back. Thanks. &mdash; Master Jonathan  ( Jedi Council Chambers ) 05:40, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry 'bout that. Should be taken care of now. ~ SavageBob 12:22, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

On RPG stats

 * I think this deserves consideration. Information of that kind commonly appears when dealing with RPG sources, and its canonicity should be considered one way or the other. While you were away, when I nominated this character, I decided to include info on his RPG stats as BtS stuff. These two objections prompted me to re-consider it. This led to a discusion through my talkpage and Tope's. User Darth Morrt found Chee's quote. After this, apparently the decision was "RPG stats are canon." I wouldn't like to address your objection and suddenly find more. Would you mind if we first discuss this through our talkpages? Maybe we could invite these other Wookieepedians too. Skippy Farlstendoiro 18:15, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, I think I and many other users have been misinterpreting that comment for a while now. It does indeed sound like he's saying they're treated as at least a guideline unless and until contradicted by a later source. I think I'll continue to put them in BTS simply as a style decision, but I won't object if you want to include them elsewhere. ~ SavageBob 19:04, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Watchlist
So, I was reading your user page and I noticed this line: I really hate the changes Wikia has made lately to the way the site works, so this is a shortcut for me to reach my Watchlist. Ugh. Grunny set this up for me. It replaces the (rightful) watchlist up at the top of all pages. It sometimes takes a second or two to load up, so if you've got a slower connection it may not be ideal. SinisterSamurai 11:09, September 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, cool! I've had problems with edits to my .js file before, but this is worth a shot. Thanks! ~ SavageBob 15:28, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Colonies
Any more Colonies species lined up? We've made some progress while you were out of it. --Eyrezer 03:00, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I've noticed! :) Well, Squalris is up at FAN, and I've taken some notes on Arkanian (but need to check all the TOTJ comics). Other than that, nothing. ~ SavageBob 03:03, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I wrote up Kloperian under the belief there were from the Colonies, only to have an Atlas update change that! --Eyrezer 03:14, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Something similar happened with Troxan, although I think that was a Wookieepedia error, not an Atlas thing. At least Kloperian netted us another square on the galaxy map! ~ SavageBob 03:56, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * By the way, did you spot that someone added a Viidaav from Spy Girls? --Eyrezer 05:12, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep! Finally got around to updating the article. :) ~ SavageBob 06:14, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Re:R3-S6
Since R3 is from TCW, mainly all his information came from TCW-related sources. In those sources, however, there's no technical information other than he sports an R2 head dome, he's 1.1 meters, and was manufactured from Industrial Automaton on Nubia. In the CSWE, his entry is relativity short and only mentions what he had done in the two episodes he appeared in. Hope this helps, Bob. I've been working on R3 since July in my sandbox.  JangFett  (Talk) 15:06, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Swokes Swokes in Secret Missions 2

 * Sorry, I don't have this book :(. But you may ask Prenticea1215, probably he/she will know more. ShaakTi1138 07:09, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Typos

 * No problem. We all make mistakes.  OLIOSTER  (talk) 05:47, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Taloron

 * Hi! Like you asked, I did check several 'Art of Books' but I haven't been able to trace the origin of the drawing that eventually turned out to be the Taloron. I checked 'Art of RotJ', 'Sketchbook of RotJ', 'Cinefex of 1983' and 'Wanted by Cracken'. Possibly some other WEG publication has another image, but won't explain the origin either. Sorry that I couldn't be of any help. --Sompeetalay 13:45, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Jenet
You may like to use this for Jenet. --Eyrezer 04:47, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Cool! The Japanese covers are always so much more alien-friendly than the American ones. I still need to do lots of work on Jenet to get it up to snuff, but that pic would be a good addition. ~ SavageBob 22:19, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Convention of Civilized Systems
They are mentioned on page 135. Here's the passage straight from the book: "...the Arquata Station Amendments to the Convention of Civilized Systems covered sentient species that lived in multiple systems but didn't appear capable of interstellar travel&mdash;a classification that covered everything from colonies descended into barbarism to populations "seeded" by other species, such as the Arkanians or the ancient Rakata." Hope that helps.  CC7567  (talk) 07:32, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

The Jedi Path
Skor II is included on a map of the galaxy that shows the location of Jedi sites and galactic points of interest. --Jinzler 11:12, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Speech Bubbles
Hey, Bob --- I noticed that you removed the text from the speech bubble when you recropped the Corellian flame miniatures main image. Isn't it the Wook's policy to include text if the entire speech bubble is visible in the image? Menkooroo 15:30, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Never mind, text is back. But my Gados objection still stands! :^P Menkooroo 15:35, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, I didn't know we had a policy on this. Can you point it out? I'd just noticed others cutting out the text, and I figured it made sense (since the image is being used for illustration, not for its text), but I suppose I could be wrong. ~ SavageBob 16:47, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, found it, and right you are. I'll try to redo the image. ~ SavageBob 17:07, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Thanks
Any time. The page numbers also make more sense this way. Xicer9 ( Combadge) 22:07, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Guudrian
I had no actual plans to GA Guudrian, although I daresay I probably would have gotten to it at some point. Lots of other articles on the plate at the moment :) I'll have to check on the article front; I should have a file somewhere detailing character appearances, and Boom's article is half-written on my hard drive. I'd be pleased to help you out in the same way that I helped out Skippy. - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 15:10, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, Bob; I did see the original message, but my Wook time has been limited of late. I've looked over the article and done some correction to the appearances/sources - basically, the entire of "Endgame" is one large adventure (with the exception of one small text story at the start), so I usually just add it to the sources. All other DS-related articles so far do it this way, so I changed it for uniformality. Also added a "1st" tag. I can't find Boom in any other adventure, and the stuff you've got in there is pretty much the extent of my notes on the pyromaniac, so I see no issues at the moment. If I come across anything else, though, I'll be sure to let you know. - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 20:59, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * After looking at the sourcebook, I think we may both be right. Endgame, as in the book, should be in the sources section. However, a new article, titled Endgame (RPG adventure) should probably be created as well, which would then go in the appearances section. Its just a case of keeping the adventure and the book as separate articles. - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 21:11, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * The purpose would be to differentiate between material from the actual adventure, material from the short story The Saga Ends, and material from the various OOU information sources, such as the crew notes and background to the planet Kathol which are not part of the adventure itself. Despite my assertion above that the book is one large adventure, I've realised that it isn't, really. Its a large part, yes, but fully half the book is given over to other material such as background information. Each book in the DS series has multiple adventures that have articles of their own, so this would be no different. - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 22:32, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd say two articles for clarity's sake. It's a little confusing, considering that they are the same name, but the logic I used was "If this adventure was called something else, I would give it a separate article." Title it as Endgame (RPG adventure). I can create the article tomorrow since I have some familiarity with the subject :P - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 22:45, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. Its no different, really, from the following example; The Unknown Regions sourcebook from WotC gets an article, but so does the mini-adventure The Mask of Darth Nihilius. Info directly relating to the adventure is sourced to the adventure, and it goes in the appearances section as a narrative piece of work, but TUR is placed in the Sources section as well. When it comes to WEG ... well, DarkStryder is a little different due to its narrative and story telling arcs. That's why I created the template for the adventures, and individual articles for each adventure. Also, you'll need to add The DarkStryder Campaign, Deluxe to the source list. Its only a reprinted box set of the entire series, so there's no new info. - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 23:19, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Gotal
Couldn't agree with you more. :P I or someone will definitely add it to the next Inqmoot agenda. Thanks for your help. Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:18, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, sorry about the fragmented discussion. Missed your talk page notice. You can copy and paste this onto my talk page and remove it from yours if you so wish. Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:19, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries; I realize that most folks do it the other way, so I'm used to it. :) ~ SavageBob 05:46, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Favor?
Hey Bob,

I was wondering if you could do me a favor! I'm assuming you have the NEGTAS (just a shot in the dark :^P ), and I was wondering if you could quickly check something for me. The text-searchable amazon preview gave me a bunch of info about Alyn Rae, but was limited to: "... or even a simple machine can cause them pain or disorientation. However, one inventive Gotal businessman named Alyn Rae recently develiped a chemical-based "cone sock" garment that covers a Gotal's cones and filters out EM emissions, allowing other transmissions to pass through." If it's not too much to ask, I'm wondering if you can check the Gotal entry and see if there's any more info after that? Our Gotal article mentions that cone socks were expensive at first and sources it to the NEGTAS, and Alyn Rae's entry on the CUSWE mentions that he worked with a bunch of non-Gotals to develop it, but that might just be conjecture, which I've seen in small doses on the CUSWE before... Anyway, if you don't have time, no worries, and if you do, thank you so much! Menkooroo 06:02, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure thing: The rest of the paragraph on Rae (picking up immediately after "pass through") goes: "He developed these garments with the assistance of several offworld scientists who could better use the equipment necessary to design and construct them. These preliminary cone socks are expensive, and usually only the most affluent Gotals wear them. Even so, more and more Gotals have been seen sporting them in galactic society&mdash;seeing the cost as a necessary sacrifice to make their lives abroad a little more peaceful." Hope this helps! (And by the way, the actual Gotal article needs a facelift if you're up to it... ) ~ SavageBob 06:08, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! That's really awesome of you. And yeah, fixing up Gotal would be the perfect way to cap off Gotal week, but I don't know if I'm the person for the job... :S Menkooroo 06:17, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

EduCorps
Would you accept a nomination to the EduCorps? --Eyrezer 05:45, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * For the CA process? Sure. I'd be happy to! ~ SavageBob 05:51, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Done! --Eyrezer 06:05, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * I feel more educated already! ~ SavageBob 06:06, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

About droids
Hi! I'm inquiring if we could have an irc chat in order to work out Forum:SH:Droid layout guide additions to something that we could put up to CT at some point. Let me know what you think, thanks. (: --Tm_T(Talk) 20:31, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, Tim, that sounds like a good idea. I'm really busy, though, so maybe you should email me with the times you'd be available and I'll get back to you? I suspect we're in different time zones, too, so maybe we should organize based on GMT. ~ SavageBob 20:53, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

Living Force Character Guide

 * Yes, that is exactly what I am looking for, thank you! Would you possibly be able to email it to me? --Jinzler 15:27, October 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, I sent you an email. Thanks again, this will be very helpful for me. --Jinzler 15:34, October 27, 2010 (UTC)

Max Rebo Band
Sure, I can grab that info for you. I have a few requests to work through, but I'll get it to you as soon as I can. Feel free to bug me if you think I've forgotten :P - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 08:16, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Past/Present
Hey Bob,

I was wondering if I could pick your brain a little bit about the past/present tense bts issue. I've always thought that it's really just a matter of personal choice of whether or not to use past or present tense in the bts when there's only one appearance --- I don't think I've seen anyone but you use the present so consistently, but I think that either one works fine, really. I've noticed you changing the tense in the bts of my and some others' noms lately, but don't you think a change a like that should probably warrant some discussion first? I always go for past tense for consistency's sake (consistency between all bts's, that is), and even if there is only one appearance, it still makes sense and reads fine, ya know? Menkooroo 00:01, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, Menk. Yeah, it is confusing. It's called the "literary present tense," and it's basically a way to indicate that a work of fiction still exists and should be spoken about as if it still exists (as do the stories and things in it). Here's a good primer on the concept. I admit that I sometimes go too present-tense; as you'll see in this link, we're supposed to use the past tense when discussing historical events like "Such-and-such was published in 19diggity2." However, the link also shows that there are cases when both must be used, even within the same sentence, as you'll see. At any rate, what I'm trying to do (and admittedly imperfectly) is to adhere to academic style (and, hence, encyclopedic style). I hope that makes some modicum of sense! :) ~ SavageBob 01:31, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, yeah, it totally makes sense. There's nothing incorrect about "So and so appears on one page of this work, etc". I'm just trying to assert that literary past tense makes sense, too, and is commonly-enough used on the Wook that it's probably not the best idea to remove it when copy-editing other people's noms. I always go for literary present when doing the in-universe Plot summary or Characters sections of OOU articles, but literary present isn't always the best way to go --- eg, the OOU section of a Characters section reading "Kalenda appeared in the Corellian Trilogy before she appeared in Agents of Chaos." If you want to support a widespread push towards literary present tense, go for it, but maybe a SH thread or a CT would be the best way to go, rather than editing the bts's of others' CANs GANs and FANs, ya know? Menkooroo 02:01, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, like I said, I've probably been overzealous in some of my changes. But I think, in general, BTS information that pertains to the fictional information contained in the source should adhere to literary present unless it just logically doesn't make sense. So, in your example above, I'd agree with you, since the sentence seems to be taking a real-world frame of reference primarily. But in a case like Siro, it makes sense (and sticks to the literary present guideline as I understand it) that Siro appears early in the novel and then dies soon thereafter, since here, our frame of reference is primarily within the fiction itself. I intend to continue copy editing noms how I think is best, but if people want to dispute something I do, they are free to do so. I'm not trying to be a jerk about this, but I do want to make sure our articles adhere to best academic practices as best I know how, and others are free to disagree with my interpretation of that goal. (Read the preceding in the voice of Krusty the Klown. Everything sounds all snippety and pissed off in plain black and white otherwise.) ~ SavageBob 03:17, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Adhering to best academic practices is definitely an admirable goal, but rather than be a one-man crusader, mightn't it be best to get some consensus? If you bring this up in a CT or SH discussion, it might turn out the community agrees with you. Menkooroo 04:18, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Let me sleep on it. It's been a long day. :) ~ SavageBob 04:34, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. :^D Just a bit more elaboration, though --- from what I've seen, most FA/GA/CA writers here tend to go for past tense as often as possible, so if you have academic sources to back up present tense (which you do!), I feel like a forum thread bringing the issue up might be the best road. Sticking to just changing the tense in the bts's of others' noms might give off a "Trust me, I'm right" kinda vibe. Menkooroo 05:03, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I do write an awful lot of academic papers on films, so there is an element of "trust me" involved. :) But how's this? Feel free to edit it; I want to make sure it's a fair-handed representation of both styles and not come off as preferring one over the other (that's for the discussion below the proposal/whatever). I'm not sure whether it's more appropriate for a SH or CT thread. ~ SavageBob 15:52, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Sourcing

 * Thank you for taking the time to explain :) As you can probably tell, I'm new not only to Wookieepedia, but Wiki-editting in general. There is a lot of stuff I still don't understand or know how to do. Anyway, thanks for pointing it out and I'll try to source things better in the future. Amaran Apprentice 1:19, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

EduCorps membership
Hey SavageBob, congrats on becoming a member of the EduCorps review panel! Feel free to add EC in front of your votes on the CAN page. If you have any questions, do not hesitate to ask me or another EC. Once again, congrats, and welcome aboard! 1358 (Talk) 17:02, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

General Grievous' Theme
Hello there SavBob! Do you think you could review "General Grievous' Theme" as it's up for GAN? I'd much appreciate it. Also, if you're interested, we'd love to have you at WP:RWM. idk if you're really into Star Wars music or not. Anyway, thanks for your time and God bless! MasterFred (Whatever) 19:54, November 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll try to take a look soon! As for the project, thanks for the invite, but my knowledge of music is limited to trombone lessons about 15 years ago! :) ~ SavageBob 20:05, November 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * OK. I fixed "purist". Will you be able to review any other music noms I put up? I plan on doing Arena Theme next. Then, as you know, FAing Star Wars Main Title. MasterFred Commerce Guild.svg(Whatever) 05:06, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

About the Lutrillian
Hi, I noticed that you added File:Leesub and the Colonel.png, I'm now asking who is this Colonel you meant to link in the description, something else than this? But good that you corrected that Lutrillian change I made, didn't really know there's two even after checking the cantina scene several times. (: –Tm_T (Talk) 16:59, November 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, Tm. Yep, there seem to be two Lutrillians in the cantina. Check out Pablo Hidalgo's personal website here for a good overview of where each alien is, including these two. I plan to untangle the BTS information on Lutrillian in the next couple of days, since I think it currently implies that there was only one Lutrillian. I may give the Colonel (not the same one you linked to above) his own page, but for now I thought it'd be better to have the image instead of a redlink. There are probably still quite a few cantina patrons who don't have articles, judging from Hidalgo's count. :) ~ SavageBob 22:04, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

Galaxy of Gotals
Heya SavageBob, just replying you about the Gotal entry. Just dug out the book and the Gotal entry is on page 14 which includes an entry on them, personality, physical description, homeworld, languages, example names, adventurers, a picture and a species trait section. Hope that helps, let me know if you want anything from the book and will see what I can do. Take care! Darth Batrus 13:10, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Morseerian
Hey, Tope and I were going over dates, and we've not been able to locate a solid source that puts Morseerian first contact in 12,000 BBY. Since you used the date in the Morseerian article, did you have a source that stated that date outright?  DD97 Which bear is best? 19:58, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries, Bob. I wasn't sure what the source said, but now that I do I agree completely that the Morseerian article is fine. The 12,000 BBY article could probably also benefit from a mention of this after all. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:12, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Star Wars Who's Who
Hi I noticed you left this message to Kingcjc a while ago about this book over on Simpsons Wiki, and I have his copy. (I'm his brother)

Rappertunie says the following:

"Born Rapotwanatantonee, the Shawda Ubb of Manpha changed his name to Rappertunie and joined the Max Rebo Band. Admired for his talent with an electronically enhanced growdi, Rappertunier was careful not to become food in Jabba's court."

Hope this helps --Sgtcook (My Talk Page) 21:28, November 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * No problem. The picture is on page 106, the text 107. --Sgtcook (My Talk Page) 21:05, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

General Grievous' Theme
Hey Bob, could you possibly check your objection to General Grievous' Theme when you have time? It's been fixed for over two weeks now. Thanks. :) 1358  (Talk)  22:05, November 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Done! It's getting busy IRL, so thanks for reminding me. ~ SavageBob 15:58, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

CAN objection

 * Just want to note that I have addressed your objection on my A Festive Gathering nomination.  OLIOSTER  (talk) 15:52, November 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Done! I think the turkey made me forget. ~ SavageBob 15:58, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

FANs
Hi Bob. Any chance of a review of namana? Oh, and di you notice that GT left some objections to Red Nebula species a couple of weeks ago? --Eyrezer 23:34, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * I should have some free time again Wednesday or so, after I've finished all my papers and such for school. I'll take a look at banana namana then and address GT's objections. Thanks for the heads up! ~ SavageBob 23:53, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Removing CANs
Hi Bob, please remove the CA nominations of Unidentified Twi'lek bodyguard, Unidentified WED-15 Treadwell (Lars homestead) and WED-15-I662 as well, because they all became to long for a CA. Currently, I have four GA nomination, so theese three must wait, before I nominate them to GA. Darth Morrt 06:59, December 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey Morrt, I've removed these noms. Hope you don't mind, Bob. :) Cheers. 1358  (Talk)  08:01, December 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Darth Morrt 08:04, December 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Glad that was taken care of! Thanks, Xd. ~ SavageBob 21:34, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Adaptations
Another young reader to your list of adaptations: R2-D2's Mission: A Little Hero's Journey. Darth Morrt 09:44, December 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I've added it. In the future, feel free to edit the page yourself; it really is meant for everyone! ~ SavageBob 15:05, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Inq
I feel it's best to respond to you here rather than perpetuating this issue on any of the Inq pages. To respond to your most recent comment, yes, I think each of your posts in regards to recent Inqmoot decisions that have affected articles you have an interest in have come off as extremely condescending, particularly where you seem to have "taken the fight," as it were, to Fiolli personally for daring to raise issue with the article at the meeting. And I only find it further symptomatic that you continue to have a rather defensive, combative attitude in your most recent post directed at myself. I neither interpreted your comment as a "personal attack," nor am I "pissed off" that you're investigating the issue. On the contrary, I'm glad you were able to clear the Saelt-Marae issue up, because I was a bit unsure of it all myself. But the way in which you seem to be attempting to make everyone else look unreasonable through all of this is rather uncalled for, and I would ask you to please cool it. I was only attempting to clarify the issue for you at your request, and nothing in my post was intended to be negatively directed at you to any extent, so there's no reason for you to interpret it as such. In other words, assume good faith when interacting with other users. Thank you. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:35, December 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * First off, we should both remember (or I should) that everything comes off as a couple of shades more pissed off in plain text. I misinterpreted your response to my Saelt-Marae post as being angry with me, so that's what I was responding to. I should have assumed good faith; you're right, and I apologize about that. As for Fiolli, I think he got the brunt of some frustration I've been feeling with the INQ in general, and for that I should apologize to him. I have no beef with Fiolli at all, and I hope he hasn't interpreted my comments as if I have. In a nutshell, I would like to see probe only happen to articles if potential problems have been first mentioned on the articles' talk pages. This would allow FA authors the chance to responde before a probe becomes necessary and keep us in the loop, rather than the surprise probes we get now. Again, this is a disagreement I have with the INQ in general, and not with Fiolli or you, so my apologies again. ~ SavageBob 03:05, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Ahsoka talk page
Hey, SavageBob. To be honest, a lot of topics in that talk page are off topic, and only are appropriate for forums/message boards. Generally if a group of anons or newer contributors talk there, they make bad edits in the article itself as seen here and here. Speculation only attracts more bad edits to the article, and really the talk page should be only used for article improvements, and not talking about subject. Previously, myself and others have tried to tell people on the talk page that it's not meant to discuss about the subject, but it seems no one pays any attention to those comments or to the talk page header template. This is what I think of it. :P  JangFett  (Talk) 05:12, December 16, 2010 (UTC)