Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations

 The featured articles of the wiki are articles that represent the best Wookieepedia has to offer. This is not a way to showcase the articles of your favorite characters, spaceships, or the like.


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So just what makes a featured article? Well, we've prepared a list just in case someone should ask that, and it is as follows.

An article must&hellip;


 * 1) &hellip;be well-written and detailed.
 * 2) &hellip;be unbiased, non-point of view.
 * 3) &hellip;be sourced with all available sources and appearances.
 * 4) &hellip;follow the Manual of Style, Layout Guide, and all other policies on Wookieepedia.
 * 5) &hellip;not be the object of any ongoing edit wars.
 * 6) &hellip;not be tagged with any sort of improvement tags (i.e. more sources, expand, etc).
 * 7) &hellip;have a proper lead that gives a good summary of the topic and can be used for the front page featured box.
 * 8) &hellip;have no more than 3 redlinks.
 * 9) &hellip;have significant information from all sources and appearances, especially a biography for character articles.
 * 10) &hellip;not have been previously featured on the Main Page. Otherwise, it can only be restored to featured status.
 * 11) &hellip;be completely referenced for all available material and sources. See Sourcing for more information.
 * 12) &hellip;have all quotes and images sourced.
 * 13) &hellip;provide at least one quote on the article; a leading quote at the beginning is required. Only one quote would be allowed at the beginning of each section at max, although quotes may be placed in the middle of the article.
 * 14) &hellip;include a "personality and traits" section on all character articles.
 * 15) &hellip;include a "powers and abilities" section on all relevant character articles, especially for Force-sensitive characters where said powers and/or abilities are stipulated.
 * 16) &hellip;include a reasonable number of images of good quality if said images are available.
 * 17) &hellip;pass review by the Inquisitorius review panel.
 * 18) &hellip;counting the introduction and "Behind the scenes" material, be at least 1000 words long (not including captions, quotes, or headers, etc).

For more information on what makes a featured article, see What is a featured article?

How to nominate:


 * 1) First, nominate an article you find is worthy of featured status, putting it at the bottom of the list below; see criteria above. Note that a previously featured article cannot be featured on the Main Page again; however, it can be restored to featured status.
 * 2) Others will object to the nomination if they disagree that the article is good enough; they will then supply reasons for doing so, and ways to improve the article (errors, style, organization, images, notability, sources).
 * 3) Supporters adjust the article until the objectors (with reasonable objections) are satisfied.
 * 4) The article is placed on the featured article list and added to the front page queue.
 * 5) Also, if, at least a week after the article's nomination, that article has 5 Inquisitor supports and no objections (or the objections have been stricken or overridden), it will be added to the queue, and will be officially known as a "featured article".

How to vote:


 * 1) Before doing anything, be sure to read the article completely, keeping a sharp eye out for mistakes.
 * 2) Afterwards, compare the article to the criteria listed above, and then either support or object the article's nomination.
 * 3) If you object, please supply concrete reasons for doing so, and how it can be improved. Please cite which rule your objection falls under! Failure to do so will result in your objection being considered invalid.
 * 4) As stated above, any objections will be looked upon by the nominator, supporters, and anyone willing to improve the article, and action will be taken to please the objectors.
 * 5) Once all objectors' complaints have been solved (or the article has five supporting Inquisitor votes and no objections after at least a week), the article will be added to the queue and be officially known as a "featured article".

Also remember to add Nominated at the top of the article you are nominating.

Every Sunday the next article in the queue will be highlighted on the Main Page as featured, marked with the Featured template and removed from the list of nominations. The beginning of the article then appears on the Main Page via the Featured article template. Nominees that are inactive for a month will be eliminated from the nominations list.

(3 Inq/4 Users/7 Total)
Support
 * 1) I've worked long on this article, and I think it is worthy. Any comments/criticism would be helpful.&mdash; Darthtyler Talk 01:44, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Thefourdotelipsis 00:16, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  Chack Jadson  Talk 23:31, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 4)  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 15:08, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) -- [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|40px]] dmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 15:20, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Ozzel 04:51, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 18:35, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Graestan [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 22:01, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) '''From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * 2) * Remove speculation on origin/parents' history
 * 3) * Not enough explanation of sunnydew nectar. Doesn't make much sense.
 * 4) * Wicket and Teebo incident section doesn't make much sense. There's irrelevant information that could be condensed, but it doesn't explain why they need to bother Gantu.
 * 5) * Wicket and Teebo's escape section doesn't make much sense either. It's written more like part of Teebo's bio, not Gantu's. The action is centered around the deeds of the Ewoks, not the subject (Gantu). Still don't get the whole sunnydew/Zandor Rocker thing.
 * 6) * P&T is rather short.
 * 7) * Is "Sunnydew nectar" a) supposed to be capitalized b) need to be linked three or four times?
 * 8) **Always hard to tell with comics, by my feeling is: no. I fixed the case, and it seems the links have already been fixed. -- Ozzel
 * 9) * Remove referencing from intro, per Sourcing.
 * 10) * Intro just doesn't read well, particularly the second paragraph.
 * 11) **Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:37, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) ***Um, are you being sarcastic? (that last line about the super happy un frustrating part.)&mdash; Darthtyler Talk 16:39, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 13) ****Not that it matters, but no, I'm not being sarcastic. I don't want people to think it's personal and that I'm picking on them- I do this to everyone. The exact phrasing was inspired by Darth Culator. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:42, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) *****Well that makes sense too, I guess.&mdash; Darthtyler Talk 16:48, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 15) Remove bullets from behind the scenes, the Lilo and Stitch bit has nothing to do with anything, fix the source on Image:Coruscanti ogre vs Divto.jpg, referencing should be per paragraph or maybe removed entirely since it's single source, which also means you don't need the first appearance bit. Green Tentacle (Talk) 17:22, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) *Done.&mdash; Darthtyler Talk 17:29, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 17) I'd like to see the intro be fleshed out. I don't think it's long enough for the Main Page yet. -- Ozzel 08:07, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) * I tweaked it a little bit, but I agree. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 13:30, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 19) Speculation in the Behind the scenes section. --Imperialles 19:39, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) *Speculation removed. I will also conduct a copyedit. I suppose I'm "adopting" this abandoned FAN. - Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 22:01, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * '''From the lair of Hobbes15
 * As a single source nom, no references are required; the ones in the article can be taken out.
 * Greedy and selfish in intro are POV.
 * Why were they looking for sunnydew nectar?
 * Fixed.
 * Where did Wicket get the Rainbow Crystal? The last the article says, Ebab is still guarding it.
 * Fixed.
 * Source for BTS section unless it is the same as the one Gantu appears in; if not, my first objection is null and void.
 * Yah, it's void. Thefourdotelipsis 23:54, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * That's all I have. I agree with Graestan, though, and believe that this article is too lanky for FAN, and might be better for the less demanding GAN. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 05:19, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * I think (and I am not alone) that there is not enough information from the source on Gantu (barring needless fluff) to make a Featured Article. Perhaps a Good Article Nomination would be more successful. - Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 04:03, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Although that might be personal prejudice against such articles :P. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 01:36, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

(5 Inqs/6 Users/11 Total)
Support
 * 1) Previously featured.  Chack Jadson  Talk 14:36, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 00:45, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 15:45, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Unit 8311 15:25, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 5)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 21:36, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Thefourdotelipsis 07:21, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) --Aabsdu 14:39, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) Even if he is a droid, it's a good read. Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 02:52, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) A worthy article Hunterj 16:53, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) Cull Tremayne 02:04, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Go, Chack. Is it indeed your birthday?  Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 02:32, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Conflicting sources should be sorted out. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 19:58, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) The article says "Fighting broke out all over Pau City between droid and clone forces, destroying large parts of the sinkhole," and cites Revenge of the Sith. But I didn't see the sinkhole itself sustaining any damage when I saw the film . -LtNOWIS 01:56, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) * Also, I don't think there should be quite so many inter-section quotes, especially in "Endgame." -LtNOWIS 01:56, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) **Fixed.  Chack Jadson  Talk 23:01, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * 6) * Needs a reference at the end of "In the service of San Hill"
 * 7) *Needs a reference at the end of "The beginning of the war"
 * 8) * A bit more information from Labyrinth of Evil is needed.
 * 9) *IIRC, LOE has details on Belderone, etc, particularly when he rescues Gunray. I'd like to see that expounded upon. Some guy 15:24, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) **Ah. Sorry, some guy. ;)  Chack Jadson  Talk 22:42, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) * Some sticky wording in the death section, particularly in "However, during the fight, Kenobi had pulled one of Grievous's chest plates off, Grievous's armor having been previously damaged by Windu, revealing the synth-skin gutsack holding Grievous's remaining organs"<s?
 * 12) *P&T has no mention of his "softer" (okay, maybe just less bloodthirsty) side with Kunmar.
 * 13) *First lines of talents needs ref'd.
 * 14) *(Talents) "Formal forms"? Reword please.
 * 15) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Unfrustrating day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 14:32, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) **Fixed.  Chack Jadson  Talk 20:09, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 17) I'd like to see a solid source for the Gary Oldman thing. Also, you might want to mention George's plans for effing with Grivie's history in the upcoming cartoon. -- Ozzel 03:29, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) **Sourced the first. For the second, where did you find that?  Chack Jadson  Talk 21:38, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 19) I may be wrong, but I would think that the content from the Grievous comic would need a bit more fleshing out than just a passing mention. Thefourdotelipsis 23:37, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) * Actually, the coverage of things such as the Clone Wars Adventures books are far too light. And sometimes non existent. Thefourdotelipsis 23:39, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 21) Far too many images (Criteria 15). --Imperialles 19:45, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 22) Unsourced entries in the trivia section. Come to think of it, we should probably either get rid of the trivia section entirely, or merge the interesting parts with other sections. --Imperialles 14:18, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * No, I think the trivia section should be kept. It'll be interesting information for some people. Unit 8311 16:57, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) **Oh, God, didn't see that before. Get rid of the Trivia section, for God's sake. Any information that is really relevant will be important enough to be integrated into other sections. Thefourdotelipsis 13:15, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Just a couple of minor things:
 * 3) * Yes, get rid of the trivia section, per 4dot's argument. Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:45, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) * Please source the following information in the infobox: Homeworld, death, eye color, and cybernetics. I would also like to see his species sourced since it is not blatantly obvious like some characters.
 * 5) *The intro could stand to be expanded by a couple sentences; major events, etc. His death should also be mentioned at the end of the intro.
 * 6) *Looks/reads good otherwise :) Greyman ( Paratus ) 01:10, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Needs info from Dark Jedi --Eyrezer 12:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) *The problem with that is that we don't know when exactly that's set. Unit 8311 12:42, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) **It still needs to be determined, or written into the article somehow. Otherwise, without it, the article is incomplete per FAN standards. Greyman ( Paratus )
 * 10) ***Yeah, I'd say just give it your best guess and leave a note ref if you think it needs it. -- Ozzel 01:42, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) ****Done. Yes, I paraphased it from the Dark Jedi article, but the most important thing is that it's there. :) Unit 8311 16:20, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) Interwiki links are woefully inadequate. -LtNOWIS 06:49, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 13) *Fixed. -LtNOWIS 21:23, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) I'd like to see the introduction rewritten to remove POV ("fearsome") and poor prose ("He earned the rank of Supreme Commander, and as the commander,"). --Imperialles 14:19, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 15) *Fixed.  Chack Jadson  Talk 19:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) Unsourced image: Image:30th Lo General GrievousPreCyborg.jpg -- [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|40px]] dmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 19:56, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 17) *Fixed.  Chack Jadson  Talk 22:56, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) Few things:
 * 19) * I'd like to see BTS info on the publicity for Grievous; where he was first revealed, how he was first just known as "the new bad guy", etc.
 * 20) * Also, BTS statements need sourcing. Some have sourcing in the text, so not those, but stuff like the entire first paragraph, the cough, and the information on the upcoming series. - Lord Hydronium 10:30, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 21) Per Hydronium- sourcing needed.  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 13:35, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 22) *Fixed it up. Review it and let me know what you think. Sorry it took me so long.  Chack Jadson  Talk 01:29, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 23) From the lair of Hobbes15
 * 24) *No mention of the attack of Coruscant in intro? A little bit should be added, at least. 
 * 25) *Ref affiliation section of infobox.
 * 26) *3 redlinks- kind of edges the limit, although this isn't a full-fledged objection.
 * 27) **Still two; however, not enough to object. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 22:41, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 28) *In the last paragraph of Victorious on all Fronts, clarify the sequence of events. Grievous didn't know Gunray's mechnochair had been responsible for the leak of info until after the battle; however, he was suspicious of Gunray, and confronted him, which is the reason Gunray admitted losing the mechnochair. Because of this, Grievous didn't suspect anything was amiss when he led the assault on Belderone.
 * 29) *"Palpatine had been taken to a secret bunker aboard a maglev train;. Grievous and his MagnaGuards dueled the Jedi Mace Windu and Kit Fisto on top of the train." Reword this somehow so it makes sense.
 * 30) *Tis all from me. Interesting read. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 03:56, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 31) **Sorted that. Unit 8311 17:08, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 32) ***Thanks. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 22:41, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 33) ****Thanks for the help 8311.  Chack Jadson  Talk 01:29, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 34) Source Image:Grievoussabers.jpeg and licensing for Image:30th Lo General GrievousPreCyborg.jpg. Green Tentacle (Talk) 22:49, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 35) Couple of things from glancing at it (I will read it properly eventually):
 * 36) *The fall of Martyr, first paragraph needs a source.
 * 37) *Transformation: Source "He treated Grievous like a typical mindless droid even after being told that was not the case."
 * 38) * The beginning of the war: Source "Dooku, impressed with the general's performance at Geonosis, trained Grievous in the art of lightsaber combat, which Grievous took to at a rapid pace."
 * 39) *The general revealed: Source "Soon the entire Republic would tremble before Grievous's brutality and strategic prowess..."
 * 40) *Talents and abilities: Source lightsabers of people he didn't kill.
 * 41) *The beginning of the war, second paragraph: Redundant ref if it's all from one source.
 * 42) *Battle tactics and strategies, first paragraph: Redundant ref if the first two are the same source. Green Tentacle (Talk) 19:49, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 43) **Sorted the third one. Unit 8311 18:21, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 44) ***Indeed you did, but please don't strike another user's objections. I'd also like to add that reference 4 has no name. Green Tentacle (Talk) 18:36, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * Well written overall and a pleasure to read. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 14:32, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Objections are fixed. Just needs a few Inq votes.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 22:52, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

(3 Inqs/6 Users/9 total)
Support
 * 1) --Eyrezer 00:01, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Cull Tremayne 00:49, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) You know Platt is where it's at! -- Ozzel 00:51, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Worthy long before this nomination. jSarek 00:53, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) That's how I like my FA's --Skippy Farlstendoiro 16:48, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) --Master Starkeiller 14:07, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, the FAN which I've been waiting months for. Finally got through the bugger, well done. Greyman ( Paratus ) 16:50, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Sheesh. Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 02:52, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) -- Dark Lord Xander  ( Embrace The Dark Side! )[[Image:MandalorianSymbol.jpg|20px]] 03:41, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Comments
 * It's very...well...BTS'y in the bio. "Probably" this and "It is noted" that...I don't know exactly how you can work around it, but I don't think it's particularly desirable. Thefourdotelipsis 01:52, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I tackled some of the worst of the prose. I leave it to Ey to decide whether to move the rest of the speculation to the Bts or Notes, or to leave it in a less florid state in the main text. jSarek 00:22, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * From the lair of Hobbes15
 * Three redlinks? They must go! :P (Not a full objection, but... a little close to the limit, I guess)
 * Could you ref the eye color and affiliations section of the infobox, please? The eye color isn't that obvious in her pictures.
 * "...Okeefe got the alcohol off him at the established cost with small favor thrown in"? Reword the "favor" part so it makes more sense.
 * Should be sorted. --Eyrezer 10:05, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * A lot of un-refed content in Repaying the Debt. Is it all in Smuggler's Log 3?
 * As for the BTS'yness of the bio, couldn't we just say that Okeefe somehow managed to recover Bee-Zerobee and be done with it. The info on how it is surprising Okeefe could have recovered Bee-Zerobee can go in the BTS.
 * Just to clarify this, you are aware that it does not appear in the main text, but rather as a footnote? --Eyrezer 04:52, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... I think it was in the main text when I read it. Anyway, someone must have fixed it. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 22:28, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * What likely happened is that you opened the page for editing and read that, which shows the ftnotes in with the rest of the text but with s etc around it, rather than reading the actual text as it would have appeared on the site. --Eyrezer 22:55, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * That must be it; I was rewording most of the sections in some way. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:25, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * "This was not to say Okeefe was unaffected by the Rebellion enveloping the galaxy"? Obviously not, she's been fighting Imperials and turned one over to the Rebels. You might want to reword this, since the earlier paragraph is definitely not implying Okeefe was unaffected by the Rebellion.
 * Addressed. --Eyrezer 05:38, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * "...The presence of a Twi'lek made this impossible"? Why?
 * He wasn't Human so obviously not an Imperial. DO you think this needs to be spelt out?
 * Sorry; I thought you meant that the Imperials had a Twi'lek among them, and I wondered why a Twi'lek could not be bluffed just as easily as a human. Forgot that Thrawn was a special case. Never mind. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 22:28, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Could the stuff about Moorja's location be moved to the BTS?
 * Removed the ftnote as it is noted on Moorja's page already. --Eyrezer 05:08, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... maybe something was wrong with my computer, and the footnotes were inserted in the main text. Anyway, fixed, although I don't mind it as a footnote; I just thought it was in the main text. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 22:28, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Probably the same thing with footnotes as before. If you want it back, that's fine, I saw it in the main text, so I figured it might be BTS info. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:25, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Should "hid" be hit? I wasn't sure, so I thought I'd bring it up here (Section 1.10.1)
 * Yeah it should have been. Fixed
 * Ref the last paragraph of Vengeance Strike.
 * Done
 * A more conclusive ending would be nice, but if there is no more information, I'm fine with it as it is currently.
 * Is this like Stele, where the ending's kind of... sudden? Because if so, it's fine. It just seems a little anti-climactic, I guess. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:25, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It is like Steele in that she is just never mentioned again. I tried to add a little resolution anyway based on an adventure seed in Vengeance Strike. --Eyrezer 10:05, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Much better. I like it. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 21:56, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Is Gathering Shadows a WEG product? If not, reword the BTS a bit so this is mentioned.
 * Clarified. --Eyrezer 08:42, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * That's all. I fixed all the minor stuff I found, and I'm impressed with the length of this article. Good work. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 19:12, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey ho, let's go:
 * A few paragraphs need refs at the end if possible. Specifically: Childhood paragraph 2, Klatooinian Trade Guild paragraph 1, Repaying the debt paragraphs 2, 3 and 4, Imperial Double Cross paragraphs 3 and 4.
 * Should Repair Bay Services have a link since it's the name of something? Green Tentacle (Talk) 20:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * They are now reffed except for the Repaying the Debt section which I will get too later. Added that link, as well as removing the one you put to Chalum's. It is not necessarily that cantina. --Eyrezer 10:05, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Currently the 48th longest article on Wookieepedia. Just to give you an idea of the length. :) --Eyrezer 00:18, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Did you forget that you're an Inq? :-P Cull Tremayne 00:49, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * If I'm not sure about an article, I vote as a regular user. :) Then if it is struggling, I can change my vote later lol --Eyrezer 03:50, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

(5 Inqs/4 Users/9 total)
Support
 * 1) Sikon 17:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) --Eyrezer 11:56, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Sikon, this is bloody good. I demand more FAs out of you, sonny! Thefourdotelipsis 02:38, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Per 4dot. Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 02:52, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Lord Hydronium 12:24, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 6)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:24, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Slash Z 19:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC) (single issue voter, struck per policy.  Greyman ( Paratus ))
 * 1) Cull Tremayne 01:39, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) -- Dark Lord Xander  ( Embrace The Dark Side! )[[Image:MandalorianSymbol.jpg|20px]] 03:45, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Comments
 * 1) A few things:
 * 2) * The infobox image (Image:Kotor.jpg) has a Dark Horse watermark is generally low quality. Replace this.
 * 3) ** Replaced. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) * The introduction needs a good rewrite. Things such as Dark Horse's other current Star Wars comics and the chronology of the series are best discussed in other sections.
 * 5) ** Addressed the issues you mentioned - tell me if something is still wrong. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) * There's a few punctuation errors throughout the article: several instances of punctuation being placed outside quotation marks, and em dashes are erroneously surrounded by spaces.
 * 7) ** Corrected em dashes. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) * The "2007: Days/Knights" subsection of "Production" has several two-sentence paragraphs. Rewrite if possible. Why is the section given the affix of "Days/Knights," when the 2006 section has no affix at all?
 * 9) ** Explained on IRC, also see below. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) * The section "Core characters" should either cover only the core characters, or be renamed to "Major characters" or something similar.
 * 11) ** Renamed to just "Characters". - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * The thin paragraph issue applies to most of the "Plot" section as well, particularly the subsections "Commencement" and "Days of Fear, Nights of Anger."
 * 13) ** Expanded small paragraphs. - Sikon 14:56, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) * There's no reception section, and no mention of sales figures.
 * --Imperialles 17:50, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) ** Added. - Sikon 14:56, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) The core characters section needs to be wookified. At the very least, it needs a grammar cleanup.  Chack Jadson  Talk  20:09, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Image:Kotorteam.jpg needs to be properly sourced with the Information template. --Eyrezer 23:07, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) * Done. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) From the Grey of Man:
 * 3) * Image:Kotor.jpg is currently tagged with . Please rectify if this is going to be used.
 * 4) ** Deleted. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) * The infobox picture isn't really the best one that is out there, though I can understand why it was chosen. Maybe the following one, which I've linked to, would be better enjoyed by the community? Especially since it has full color. Image:Kotorhandbookcoverandtitle.jpg, just a suggestion.
 * 6) ** Done. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) * None of the character information in the "Core character" section has any reference tags. Please source info from the necessary appearances/sources.
 * 8) * What's the source for "&hellip;abbreviated as KotOR&hellip;"? I know it is often referred to as that around here, but is there a source for it being used in the comics/interviews/media etc.?
 * 9) ** Sourced. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) * The caption ("Dark Horse promotional image and preliminary issue 0 cover") is not needed below the picture in the infobox.
 * 11) ** Removed. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * Each entry in the Core Characters section needs to be expanded, IMO; and as already pointed out, needs to be cleaned up.
 * 13) ** See below about expansion. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) * It may have been intentional, but Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 0: Crossroads is not listed, along with the other comics, in the "Media" section. All of the other comics which were collected into the TPB Commencement are listed, and Crossroads was collected in it as well&mdash;please include.
 * 15) ** It's there, see below. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) * Please completely source the "Continuity" section&mdash;only a few paragraphs and/or pieces of information are currently sourced. Even though some of the information may be obvious, it should still be sourced to comply with FAN standards.
 * 17) ** Sourced. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) *** Better, but the first two paragraphs still need ref tags. The first paragraph needs at least one, if not more, ref tags of where the KotOR comics reference the TOTJ comics and the KOTOR games. The second paragraph simply needs a ref tag from either the Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic video game or even the Strategy Guide since it details some of the information listed. Using both wouldn't be opposed to either. Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 19) ****Reworded the first paragraph and restructured the section, so that the paragraph wouldn't require a reference (hopefully). As for the second, it openly says "in the game" and provides a link to said game, so I don't think it needs a reference - the game is established as the source for this information in the text itself, and I'm not a fan of having footnotes for the sake of them. - Sikon 12:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) *****Neither am I a fan of having footnotes for the sake of having them, if it can be avoided&mdash;and your re-wording of that specific part clears up my objection, thanks. Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:24, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 21) * Formatting for the "Notes and references" section should be a scroll box at the very least.
 * 22) ** Done. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 23) * Once the writing objections listed by Imp, Chack, and myself have been looked after, I'll go through the actual writing of the article. I don't see any point in doing it before hand.
 * 24) * In the "Continuity" section, the first sentence says "Set in the years 3,964 BBY and 3,963 BBY, at a midpoint between Tales of the Jedi and the video games&hellip;". It needs to be made clear that that the video games are Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic and Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords, as right now a wayward reader could mistake it for all the video games.  Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 25) ** Addressed. - Sikon 12:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 26) * I feel that introduction should make some mention about the fan reception of the series as well as any other relevant Real World impacts it has had&mdash;especially since it's an article about the overall series. Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 27) ** There haven't been any significant real-world impacts, to my knowledge, besides Vector &mdash; which I have now mentioned in the intro. - Sikon 12:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 28) **An interesting FAN which I could see becoming the template for future projects like it. Greyman ( Paratus ) 00:57, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 29) From the beaker of Lord Hydronium:
 * 30) * Expand on a few things in "Plot Summary", particularly the second paragraph of "Commencement". First, some explanation of the knighting ceremony, and second, a few more details on the vision, like the figure you mention later.
 * 31) ** Expanded the Commencement section to clarify this. - Sikon 12:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 32) * Nothing about Vector.
 * 33) ** Added a section about Vector and mentioned it in the intro. - Sikon 12:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 34) *No other complaints here. - Lord Hydronium 09:16, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 35) From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * 36) * Source handbook release.
 * 37) ** Done. - Sikon 12:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 38) *Copyedit plot summary
 * 39) *This is not the easiest of objections to resolve, but I'd like the prose in the plot summaries to be a little better. Some of the word choices don't seem to quite line up- I think a "misled" in there is kind of awkward. Another example is the way the last sentence of Flashpoint reads- it doesn't seem to flow. Also, a bit more detail in some parts, e.g. "After Zayne learned this." What did he learn- that the banker was his father? That the banker had been captured? Both?
 * 40) * Maybe it's because it has been freshly released/not fully released, but the Daze of Hate section is abominably small and hard to read/follow.
 * 41) ** Expanded with #20 events and restructured. - Sikon 12:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 42) *This is definitely not a hard and fast rule, but what about having an authors/pencillers/creators section on the page? Ozzel's SOTE soundtrack FA has a paragraph about McNeely and some of his background work, and I think that an entire series merits a section on the creators and their background, at least briefly.
 * 43) * Disambig link to other KotOR products needed.
 * 44) **Added. - Sikon 12:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 45) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating Day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 18:24, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 46) From the lair of Hobbes15
 * 47) *"Vision on the rogue moon"? What is this (the Lucien Draay section) ? As it isn't mentioned before, some mention should go in Draay's bio.
 * 48) *Does Characters need to be referenced? At the very least, the final paragraph of each character should be referenced, if not the main information area, IMO.
 * 49) *Per Ataru on the Plot Summary prose. ..."standing right there with lightsabers drawn", "misled"... the prose could most definitely be improved.
 * 50) *"the operation that eventually results in Arven being freed"? What operation? Some detail about it should be added.
 * 51) * Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 04:17, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Nominated on Sikon's behalf per request on IRC. -- [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|40px]] dmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 17:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Confirming the request on IRC. :) Plus some responses:
 * Sourced the "KotOR" abbreviation.
 * Replaced infobox picture per Greyman's suggestion, deleted Image:Kotor.jpg. Removed caption.
 * Removed references to other DH titles and specific years from the intro. Tell me if anything else needs to be done about it.
 * As I told Imp on IRC, 2007 has the "Days/Knights" subtitle because that's how Dark Horse refers to that meta-arc. There was no codename for 2006, hence no subtitle.
 * Renamed "Core characters" to just "Characters". But what is meant by "wookifying" this section? I'm not sure it needs to be expanded, either - it's an article about the overall series, so I tried to be as brief and concise as possible when describing the individual plot summaries and characters. Entries on individual arcs may have longer descriptions.
 * I still feel that the character entries should be longer, but I understand your reasoning and struck that particular objection. Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Removed spaces around mdashes.
 * Reception section: I'll add it soon.
 * Thin paragraphs: I'll expand them.
 * Sourced the unsourced part of the "Continuity" section. Things without a reference footnote are sourced in-text - for example, "Alek references the Great Sith War in Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 0: Crossroads."
 * Issue 0: Crossroads is already in the Media section, just out-of-order. Fourdot suggested listing everything by release date, and #0 was released after #1 and #2.
 * Put "Notes and references" in a scroll box, although I'm personally not a big fan of them.
 * Templatized the description for Image:Kotorteam.jpg.
 * - Sikon 07:48, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Could someone strike Slash Z's vote, as he has no edits on the main namespace? Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:22, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Not a opposed vote here, but I tried previewing the article with all the character images on the right instead of on the left, and I think the article looks better that way. Anybody else want to take look at it that way and see if they agree? - JMAS 18:56, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

(5 Inqs/2 Users/7 Total)
Support
 * 1) Havac 08:05, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 02:52, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 20:25, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Yar! He's a pilot! Thefourdotelipsis 07:38, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Here's to length&mdash;insane length. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 21:37, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Worst Pilot in Rogue Squadron  Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 01:15, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Cull Tremayne 01:37, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Last paragraph of "First combat". I'm getting a bit of a "Keep your hands off Jimmy!" moment. "Darklighter did this. Darklighter did that. Darklighter with three bags full." Thefourdotelipsis 10:20, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *Largely de-Jimmyed. jSarek 10:43, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) The only thing causing me to withhold my support, is the succession box at the bottom at the article&mdash;I'd like to see, at the very least, the dates listed there provided with reference tags. Other than that minor thing, the article is awesome and one your best Havac.  Greyman ( Paratus ) 19:25, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) *I actually suggested reffing succession boxes back when we started reffing infoboxes, but was told not to bother. It's something I support anyway, so I'll get on it. Havac 20:03, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) In the "Striking back" section, we're suddenly dealing with a new COS. You might want to mention Fey'lya's death. Also, stuff like "got a goatee" and "dyed hair blonde" is better suited to the P&T, rather than the main bio. Thefourdotelipsis 08:48, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Also, in the section where Leia is apprehended and there's the smelling salts and all that, it's degenerated into a play-by-play. It needs to be more concise and have a more suitable tone. Thefourdotelipsis 09:47, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) *See about that. Havac 17:33, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) From the lair of Hobbes15
 * 9) * "bubbly"? How was Forge "bubbly"?
 * 10) **Bubbly personality. She was outgoing and enthusiastic. It's a fairly common term. Havac 04:10, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) ***Didn't know that. No problem, then. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 04:24, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * If the Iron Fist was badly damaged before it could flee, how did it get to Selaggis? Elaborate a bit on this (Last paragraph of The hunt for Zsinj)
 * 13) **It was badly damaged, which happened before it escaped. I'll clarify the wording a little. Havac 04:10, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) * I don't really care about the first two redlinks, but could the shield trio article be created? It appears quite a bit, as far as I remember.
 * 15) **I thought I put Goodwood on that a while ago. I'll talk to him; it's his specialty. Havac 04:10, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) * A little mention of why the crystal gravfield trap was required by the NR.
 * 17) **Hmm. Good point. Addressed. Havac 04:10, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) * When Pellaeon signed the peace treaty, what happened with the Caamas Document silliness? I forget the exact events, but mention that Pellaeon did not give the NR the document, they were forced to do something else to get it.
 * 19) **Ehhh . . . it's not really about the NR. I hesitate to digress any more than necessary. Besides . . . if they were going after Imperial info, and then made peace with the Imps . . . I think it's implicit to the reader that the information gets shared; the crisis is over. Now, the actual document is provided by Skywalker . . . but I just think that's more digression than the reader needs. "Oh, by the way, Luke came back from this totally different place where Thrawn had made a base . . . yeah, long story, well point is he happened to have a copy, in case you were wondering." Havac 04:10, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) ***That's fine. I suppose that would be a lot of extra info. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 04:24, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 21) * In the Swarm War stuff, mention that there were Killiks stowed aboard, and that was what Organa Solo sensed&mdash; right now it's unclear how the Ackbar was actually destroyed.
 * 22) **Well, actually . . . she wasn't destroyed. She was boarded; the Killiks aboard didn't play much of a role. I think I've clarified it a little. Havac 04:10, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 23) ***Oh, yes. Forgot about all the silliness with it attacking the Chiss, and that. Never mind. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 04:24, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 24) *That's all. Wow, he has some bad hair days. Incredible article, Havac. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 03:45, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 25) From the battered desk of Atarumaster88
 * 26) *A first look tells me that there is a wonderful amount of prose. However, there is not a wonderful amount of images. Before you tell me that there aren't any other images of Gavin- I believe you. However, that doesn't mean we can't have relevant images of other pertinent things ala Xaverri. I suggest some images of Biggs, the Battle of Yag D'hul, the Battle of Thyferra, an X-wing starfighter, Battle of Selaggis, raid on Folor? (Isard's Revenge cover), Battle of Mon Calamari, etc. Just do something to vary it up.
 * 27) **I do believe in the illustrative legitimacy of images not of the character being in the article, unlike some others, but I find myself hard-pressed to justify anything more here. Were there images of his X-wing in battle, his wife, anything I could link more concretely, I'd put them in. I already have images of the crest he designed and his girlfriend. While more generic images could be stuffed into the early section, I worry about the availability of images for the later sections, possibly resulting in some image imbalance. I don't think we need images for images' sake here; we've currently got an image in about every other section, and I really don't think that's bad enough that we have to resort to filler images. I think a simpler, cleaner style actually suits it better and is classier, rather than sticking in "Here's other people fighting in a battle he was in, Here's an X-wing; he flew one of these, Here's Jaina Solo; he recruited her, Here's Corran Horn; Corran was nice to Gavin when he was starting out." I've done that before for articles with nothing or next to nothing in the way of images or bad image imbalance, but I did it minimally. I don't think Darklighter is so bad off as to call for that. Havac 23:36, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 28) ***I disagree, especially given the small size of the images of Gavin that are available- that's certainly Lucasfilm's fault, but I certainly think two or three more images would contribute to the article's quality. If it comes down to a point of disagreement, I would say place it to a talk page or Inquisitorius vote. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 22:15, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 29) ****We'll have to disagree. Images aren't everything, and better to keep it clean and simple than stuff it with images for the pure hell of it. Havac 05:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 30) *****Inq vote held in IRC. No more images are needed. Havac 23:11, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 31) * Mention that Darklighter testified during the Celchu trial. I'm almost certain he did.
 * 32) **Already in there. "Darklighter often made time to attend the trial itself, and was likely called as a witness along with most of the other members of the squadron." I don't believe there's any explicit confirmation of his testimony present. Havac 23:36, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 33) * Needs another section added to separate the DNT and the Legacy stuff. And this thing better be updated for Denning's last book.
 * 34) **That section is ten paragraphs long, some of them larger than normal and some very much shorter than normal; a quick count shows another nine-paragraph section and several eight-paragraph sections. I've thought about breaking that section up, but ultimately just didn't think it was needed, as it's thematically unified and would be two rather short sections if broken up. If you insist, I can break it in twain, but I'm not entirely convinced it's necessary. And of course and future material will be added in a timely fashion. Havac 23:36, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 35) ***My problem with the overlong section is that it basically deals with two major events: The Dark Nest Crisis and this 4th fleet and Confed-GA war. That is not thematically unified in my opinion, and two five-paragraph sections is not what I would define as "rather short." Ditto on the talk page or Inq vote though. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 22:15, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 36) ****Split. And your sig code is ridiculously long. Havac 05:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 37) * Prose issues in intro."joining the New Republic. With his parents' blessing, Darklighter joined." Can any other word be used? Misplaced antecedent in Yuuzhan Vong sentence makes it look like he's fighting the Rogues. (ha!) 2nd Corellian Insurrection section in intro is disproportionately long compared to the length of say, the Yuuzhan Vong War section or the Dark Nest trilogy, especially given how relatively little he's in the books. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 06:29, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 38) **Cleaned up and trimmed; the bit he is in the books is very important to his overall career, however, and merits more mention than twenty battles where he just fights and wins. Havac 20:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 39) * The Talasea assault just "ended"? How about the Rogues were evacuated after they beat all of their attackers or something a bit more detailed.
 * 40) **Cleared up. Havac 20:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 41) * What stormtrooper platoon? Please clarify which platoon you are referring to . . i.e. the one that attacked them on Talasea.
 * 42) **Clarify what you're objecting to! Found that and clarified. Havac 20:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 43) * Statements on Kre'fey's overconfidence and lack of planning are POV. Please remove.
 * 44) **Cleaned up . . . though I think saying, "No, we know everything down there" and then having an extra wing of TIEs show up and kill you is a relatively objective indicator of overconfidence. Havac 20:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 45) * "the existence of which Kre'fey had not even known" reads poorly. Please reword.
 * 46) **Reworded. Havac 20:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 47) * Who the heck is Winter and how did she magically start helping the Rogues on Coruscant? At least a tiny bit of detail on who she is would be good. (And yes, I know who Winter is, but it's for the sake of the less informed reader).
 * 48) **Got it. Havac 20:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 49) * In a moment of impersonating Goodwood, I demand an appropriate link to starfighter combat.
 * 50) **Linked. Havac 20:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 51) * "made to turn his guns" . . . "made to leave". Vary the diction please, such phrases are quaint when used occasionally, tiresome when overused within a close space.
 * 52) **You really need to be more specific. I had to resort to ctrl-F to find and fix that. Havac 20:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 53) * "Darklighter continued flying missions and spending time with Sei'lar." This sentence does not go with the paragraph in which it is placed. Remove or move it please.
 * 54) **"I will make it relevant." Havac 20:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 55) * Antilles's preparations for what were complete? Be specific.
 * 56) **The whole point is that that kicks off this big plan, which you see in action. Bah! The next two paragraphs spell the whole plan out. Bah! Do I really need to add "preparations for victory" to spell it out that obviously, as if Antilles is preparing for breakfast or a trip to Des Moines or something? Fine, done. I hope you enjoy the pedestrian. And no, that's not the walking person, it's the substantive. Bah! Havac 20:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 57) * speculation on Faleur's background is not needed in the article. It's not a soap opera.
 * 58) **Cleaned. Havac 20:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 59) * Neither champagne nor fountain is linked! Hyperinclusionist fanwankery demands that either champagne or champagne fountain be linked!
 * 60) **Linked. Just remember, you brought it upon yourself. Havac 20:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 61) *A New Enemy, Para 1. Describing Traest as "honest and straightforward" is POV. Reword so that it's described as Gavin's perspective please.
 * 62) *The bit about Calrissian's party after the Second Battle of Borleias (Yuuzhan Vong War) is unnecessary and speculative. "And then Darklighter went drinking with his buddies." Who cares? Remove.
 * 63) *The first paragraph of the BTS is somewhat redundant with an appearances section. Trim it up please- not every major appearance needs to be listed.
 * 64) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 20:22, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 65) From the squalid cubicle of Graestan:
 * 66) * "Darklighter" is used excessively. Could "Gavin" be substituted for a solid chunk of these instances? Especially when talking about multiple Darklighters.
 * 67) **Use refined when talking about multiple Darklighters. Havac 05:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 68) * "Biggs and Gavin were not close, but Biggs would sometimes spend time with his younger cousin, even taking him along occasionally when Biggs spent time with Luke Skywalker, during which trips Darklighter met Owen and Beru Lars."&mdash;can this be broken up, and perhaps spend time/spent time not used so close together?
 * 69) **Broken up. Havac 05:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 70) * In the last paragraph of "Rogue," Corran Horn's full name should be used in the first occurrence, to remind us of who he is. This should be a precedent for other character mentions; this is very like the first objection.
 * 71) **Horn's name is used in his first occurrence. Havac 05:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 72) * In the fourth paragraph of "First Combat," you point out that Ooryl is awake twice in rather rapid succession, which I find awkward.
 * 73) **Finessed. Havac 05:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 74) * Okay, last name overload. This sounds like a police report. Cannot some names be changed, to make it less stiff?
 * 75) **Hell no. Characters should never be referred to by first name only, unless distinguishing between two people of the same surname. When was the last time you saw an encyclopedia refer to Winston Churchill as "Winston"? Do encyclopedias call George W. Bush "George"? This is not fiction. We use last names. Havac 05:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 76) * Levian system redlink should go.
 * 77) **That's not a rule-based objection. :p Havac 05:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 78) *&mdash; Graestan [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 00:34, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * No, I haven't actually read it yet. More objections to come. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 20:22, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Was it two squadrons or two flights of TIE Defenders? Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 14:24, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Note to me: I am up to "Taking the lead". Finished. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 14:24, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think I will ever have a "lack of detail" objection, but if I have to read the overused surname "Darklighter" one more time . . . Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 14:24, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

(1 Inq/2 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) I put a lot of work into this one; I think it's accurate, interesting, concise and complete. I would definitely welcome any criticisms or suggestions, but I definitely think it is worthy of being a featured article. &mdash; Colinmcev Talk 03:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Thefourdotelipsis 04:27, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  19:08, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Object Comments
 * 1) Just glanced at it, but the Personality and Traits should be at the end of the article, you know. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 04:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *Fixed that.--Colinmcev 18:30, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Would be nice to have a BTS (Behind the scenes) section, covering stuff like who created the character, where he first appeared, any continuity errors, etc. Also, this would be a good place to include one of those wacky Galaxies pics. -- Ozzel 02:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) *Added both. Thanks for the great suggestions!--Colinmcev 01:35, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) From the Thoroughly Pounded Desk of Four Dot:
 * 6) * There's a little bit of POV in the intro, and "He betrayed Rogue Squadron during a covert mission and attempted to kill Corran Horn, but he was shot and killed by his lover, Inyri Forge." could probably be rephrased.
 * 7) **I reworked it a litlte bit and removed what I thought was the POV. If there is any left, or if you think it needs further rephrasing, please let me know or feel free to tweak it.--Colinmcev 01:27, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) * "Zekka Thyne served on Black Sun" - Sounds dangerous. I think he just "served Black Sun", but I think "joined the Black Sun syndicate" would be better.
 * 9) **I agree! Fixed that.--Colinmcev 01:28, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) * Just a general observation: There are a lot of unsightly "thin" paragraphs. Of course, you can "cheat" on this one and just merge a couple of the offending paragraphs together.
 * 11) **This is a bad habit of mine; in real life, I'm a reporter, and in newspaper articles small paragraphs are required. lol. I tightened them up a bit, but if you still think there are paragraphs that are too thin, please point out which ones and I'll make further fixes.--Colinmcev 01:38, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * Another observation: The end of every paragraph containing In-universe information should have a relevant citation.
 * 13) **Fixed that.--Colinmcev 01:41, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) * "eliminate single targets and slaughtering informers and even their families." - This could be worded better.
 * 15) **Tightened the sentence altogether, I think it's better now.--Colinmcev 01:42, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) * "In 7 BBY, Fliry Vorru, then a Moff in charge of the Corellian Sector, was sent to Kessel after being framed by Prince Xizor. This allowed Xizor to establish Zekka Thyne as his chief associate in Corellia." - How so? This might need more clarification.
 * 17) **Done.--Colinmcev 01:43, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) * "However, he was well protected by his heavily protected fortress" - One of the "protected"'s needs to be replaced, methinks.
 * 19) **Yeesh, what a lame mistake. Fixed that.--Colinmcev 01:43, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) * Even though you link to cutter, you might want to briefly explain what it is.
 * 21) **Done.--Colinmcev 01:44, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 22) * Take the image of the Bothan Thyne out of the bio and put it in the BtS. Also, assume that they're separate characters. I cite Chertyl Ruluwoor as a precedent.
 * 23) **I don't necessarily agree that the SWG Thyne should be a seperate character since both are affiliated with Black Sun and are clearly meant to be one and the same; maybe it's just me, but I think just noting the Bothan discrepency is enough. But I did move the pic.--Colinmcev 01:49, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 24) * "Although Loor attended the meeting during which the plan was formed, he started a confrontation with Corran Horn that resulted in Fliry Vorru punching him in his abdomen injury and smashing his head against the table." - Eh? You might have gotten you characters a bit mixed up there.
 * 25) **Yeah, that "Loor" should be a "Thyne." Fixed it.--Colinmcev 01:50, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 26) * The preceding sentence also starts with "Although", which doesn't flow well.
 * 27) **Fixed that and redid much of the sentence altogether.--Colinmcev 01:52, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 28) * "With this, Zekka Thyne died." - Too short a sentence, but I could be wrong. You'll want to integrate it into the preceding paragraph, though.
 * 29) **I think the short sentence works for effect, but I agree that it is WAY too short as an individual paragraph. Merged it with the previous one.--Colinmcev 01:53, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 30) * Mention who the other spy was in the Post-death section.
 * 31) **Done.--Colinmcev 01:55, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 32) *Best of luck with all that. It might take a bit of work, but I think there's some good foundation here. Thefourdotelipsis 09:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 33) **If there's anything else, please don't hesitate to let me know. Thanks for the thorough look!--Colinmcev 01:56, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, first things first: Don't strike other people's objections. It's frowned upon. However, you got most of them. I still have an issue with the paragraph spacing. Basically, in the first half of the article, merge every pair of paragraphs. It just looks a lot neater and, well, meatier. Thefourdotelipsis 23:27, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) **I'm really sorry about that, I've never nominated an article before so I didn't really know the proper procedure. I tightened the paragraphs a bit, let me know if you think that looks better.--Colinmcev 23:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) ***That's OK, you know now. Good work with this though. It looks fine to me now. Thefourdotelipsis 04:27, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Got some things here:
 * 4) * In the Appointment to Corellia section, it first says the Moff was framed by Xizor. Then it later syas it is widely believed he was framed. That sounds reptitive and contradicts the above info somewhat.
 * 5) **Actually, Moff Fliry Vorru was definitely framed, and accordingly that is definitively stated. But the person who is noted as "widely believed" to have been framed is the previous owner of the fortress. That isn't Vorru, it's someone else who is never identified in any of the source material. So the two references are not related, and I don't think there's an error there.--Colinmcev 01:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) * Also, the protected fortress thing that Fourdot mentioned earlier needs fixing.
 * 7) **Right you are. Fixed that.--Colinmcev 01:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) * In the Spy for Lorr section, the last paragraph needs to be ref'ed.
 * 9) **Done.--Colinmcev 01:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) * In the Imperial scheme section, the second-to-last paragraph needs to be rephrased. It's too repetitive.
 * 11) **Good call. I think I fixed it, but if you still think it needs work, let me know or go ahead and rephrase it.--Colinmcev 02:00, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * The last paragraph int hat section needs to be sourced.
 * 13) **Done.--Colinmcev 02:00, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) * In the Imprisonment paragraph, the "Maw" needs to be unlinked.
 * 15) **OK..--Colinmcev 02:02, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) * The first paragraph needs to be sourced too.
 * 17) **Fixed it.--Colinmcev 02:02, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) * In Presence on Coruscant, the first paragraph needs to be rephraes as it sounds repetitive.
 * 19) **I agree, big time. Fixed it.--Colinmcev 02:04, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) * Also, change execute to shoot.
 * 21) **To be honest, I don't think this change is entirely necessary, but I made it anyway.--Colinmcev 02:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 22) * In the Death section, "this new" should be "this news".
 * 23) **Another dumb mistake. Fixed.--Colinmcev 02:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 24) * In P&T, the word "Wookiee" needs to be unlinked. Also, rearrange it so it flows, going from his perosnality to his appearance than his tastes, not jumping around.
 * 25) **I think it already is that way; the first paragraph is personality, then we have three paragraphs of appearance, and the last one about his art taste. If this isn't acceptable, can you give me some further clarification on how it could be rearranged?--Colinmcev 02:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 26) * And everything from Release from Kessel to Post-death needs sourcing.
 * 27) **Done.--Colinmcev 02:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 28) *Good luck.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 19:24, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 29) **Thanks again, I really appreciate the thoroughness!--Colinmcev 02:09, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 30) And now for something completely similar:
 * 31) *Source the rest of the infobox.
 * 32) *There's a few instances of redundant ref tags. If the whole paragraph is from the same source it only needs one ref at the end.
 * 33) **Removed those. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 01:34, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 34) *Include information about his quest in Galaxies.
 * 35) *Intro: "Although rumored to be the heir-apparent to Xizor's criminal organization..." Rumoured by who? This needs to be mentioned later in the article and sourced.
 * 36) *Imperial scheme and capture: Source the first paragraph.
 * 37) *Imprisonment on Kessel: "a spicer term used to describe close enough to a person that they could be trusted with cutting their spice" Can this be reworded?
 * 38) *Presence on Coruscant: Needs something to lead into second paragraph, even if it's just "Some time later..." As it is, it feels disjointed.
 * 39) *Presence on Coruscant: Second paragraph has a sentence starting with "but". Kill it if possible.
 * 40) *Presence on Coruscant: A brief mention of how the Rogues got involved in the Imperial raid would not go amiss.
 * 41) *Personality and traits: "one massive black eye that was slowly fading" is a quote from the narrative, not something in-universe. Lose the quotes and make it something like "Corran Horn thought that it gave the impression..." Green Tentacle (Talk) 19:58, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 42) From the lair of Hobbes15
 * 43) *Per GT on the infobox.
 * 44) *Mention somewhere in the bio that he was born on Corellia, if this can be referenced.
 * 45) *Needs a mention of how Black Sun met its downfall.
 * 46) *The last sentence of Spy for Kirtan Loor seems a little out of place. Perhaps place it after the segment about the destruction (sort of) of Black Sun.
 * 47) *Ref the end of the first paragraph of 1.4.
 * 48) *The last bit of 1.4 that says Thrawn captured Thyne is a bit unclear. I thought it said the Horns captured him earlier; in addition, a little mention on what happened after Hal shot him would be nice.
 * 49) *"to describe close enough to a person that they could be trusted with cutting their spice"? This is unclear.
 * 50) *"Myda wanted to take the offer, Kassar insisted that Inyri must make her own decision, and even expressed hope that Inyri might be able to change Thyne for the better." Who the heck are are Myda and Kassar?
 * 51) *The first sentence of Presence on Coruscant makes no sense. When is Thyne talking to Horn? It is unclear what's happening there. All it says is that Thyne was about to be released, then next thing you know, he's psychologically attacking Horn.
 * 52) *"to look back and check on Inyri"? This could be reworded and made much clearer and more interesting than it is at the moment.
 * 53) *Mention why Loor feared Horn would try to kill him in 1.8.
 * 54) *Rogue Squadron Betrayal and Death is an unclear headline. Who's doing the betraying&mdash; Thyne or the Rogues?
 * 55) *First paragraph of this section is unclear and should be slightly reworded.
 * 56) *"Thyne instead told him there was at least one other spy in Rogue Squadron, although Thyne did not know that Rogue Squadron pilot Erisi Dlarit was the spy." This doesn't make sense, and Rogue Squadron is over-used in the sentence.
 * 57) *In Post-death, the article makes it seem like Horn died in his confrontation with Celchu, not in the battle following it.
 * 58) *In the P&T, could the three paragraphs regarding his appearance be merged into one?
 * 59) *Is it specifically said in Side Trip that Thyne's taste in art was considered questionable by most? If not, it needs a seperate reference.
 * 60) *Do you have a reference for the fact that Thyne was only referenced in the parts of the story written by Stackpole (BTS)?
 * If, as GT says, he has a specific role in Galaxies beyond a mere appearance, it does need to be mentioned.
 * 1) *And that's all. Good luck with those. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 01:34, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) *I finally got to read Side Trip and I expanded the section with a whole lot of info from that. As that was the final major source for Zekka, I think this article is pretty much as complete as possible.--Colinmcev 01:35, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *Colinmcev, I uncrossed Chack's objections, because, after checking the history, I realized that he didn't cross them out, you did. For future reference, the way these things work is that you make a comment when you've addressed an objection, the objecting user looks at the article, checks to see if the objection is fixed to his/her satisfaction, and then crosses it off. If they still see a problem, they'll point it out. Thank you, and good work with the objections ;). Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 02:24, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) *Yeah, I'm sorry about that; as I said about, I've never nominated an article before so I didn't really know the proper procedure. I was basically crossing them off as I fixed them, but I'll make sure that doesn't happen again.--Colinmcev 23:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) **It's fine. I'll try to look at the article later today.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 10:30, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

(5 Inqs/1 Users/6 Total)
Support
 * 1) Thefourdotelipsis 03:12, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Cull Tremayne 09:05, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Green Tentacle (Talk) 18:46, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 01:21, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 5)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:07, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 6)  &mdash;Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 01:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Comments
 * 1) 'From the lair of Hobbes15
 * 2) * Ref the hair color and affiliation in the infobox (He isn't actually seen without that hat, so I figure it should be ref'd).
 * 3) **Done.
 * 4) * Could the references in the P&T be scattered to the statements they're applicable too? I'm pretty sure all of that data is not told in all three DB entries.
 * 5) **Done. Thefourdotelipsis 02:20, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) * Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 01:46, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Mention why he wanted to free Diva in the intro. I know it says that later, but I think it would be good to just add a few words about her opera talent. Also, possibly add why Ottegru supplied him the funds in the intro. Minor, but again, think it would help the reader a little. Otherwise it's a typical Fourdot article (very comprehensive and FA-worthy).  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 23:25, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) *I've already mentioned the Shaliqua thing, and the Grey thing is just too complex to fit into a concise intro. I think. I may be wrong. Thefourdotelipsis 02:20, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) How can he have two first appearances after being retconned? One or the other has to be the first.  Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 15:36, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) *Before the WTS retcon, the only appearance for that character was Revenge of the Sith, but after being retconned, the first appearance was The Phantom Menace...since now, it's the first thing that character appeared in. Thefourdotelipsis 22:17, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) **Ah. A little abnormal, but oh well.
 * And the beat goes on.... Thefourdotelipsis 03:12, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Since Rob's Ep1 cameo in the arena crowd has been retconned to be Treblanc, can we get a screenshot of that, and have it added to the character's appearances? QuentinGeorge 06:15, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Plus a quote. I know you can find one. QuentinGeorge 06:16, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I've been whining about this on the IRC today...and I scanned through the TPM podrace trying to find him. No such luck. Do you know the timecode, QG? Thefourdotelipsis 06:36, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * According to this page on TFN, he's the circled guy in this image: Dunno if you can get it clear enough to be worthwhile. QuentinGeorge 09:10, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh, I actually went ferreting around TFN before I saw that. I got the shot, and it's not too useful, however, if it can be replaced by a high-def shot, it might be good. Thanks for that QG. Now if only I could find a quote... Thefourdotelipsis 09:42, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I went on my DVD and...though its the right frame, TFN has circled the wrong guy - Coleman appears on Gardulla's left, just as Jabba first appears. It's quite clearly him. QuentinGeorge 10:00, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks for that...I was going to say...the other dude doesn't look too much like Coleman. Thefourdotelipsis 10:31, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The circled guy looks like it might even be Ben Burtt. jSarek 10:44, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quote, QG. I got one about gambiling from TPM, but yours is probably better. Thefourdotelipsis 00:51, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

(2 Inqs/4 Users/6 Total)
Support Oppose Comments
 * 1) --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 17:23, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Jedimca0(Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 18:14, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) I think the BtS could be meatier, and "cruel" strikes me as POV, but it's not enough to object. Thefourdotelipsis 07:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  19:08, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 5)  &mdash;Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 16:17, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 13:45, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) From the lair of Hobbes15
 * 2) * As Crumb's death is mentioned in the intro, Pic's should be as well.
 * 3) **Done.
 * 4) * "Kowakian monkey-lizards[1]"? What's the ref for?
 * 5) **No idea. Removed.
 * 6) *And that's all I've got on this nom. Simus, Teek, and now monkey-lizards? I hate to think what'll be next ;). Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 02:02, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) **My next projects will be rather more serious, I'm afraid.--  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 09:50, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) ***All TOTJ!? NOOOO! ;). Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 13:45, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I know it looks like it should be longer based on the amount of appearances, but most of them were just Crumb and had no info on the species --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 17:23, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

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Support Oppose Comments
 * 1) Such a lovable character --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 21:25, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Goodwood  [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 21:35, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) &mdash;Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 02:52, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) "I am your reward; you don't find me handsome?" Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 15:32, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Thefourdotelipsis 04:14, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) From the Forest of Goodwood:
 * 2) * Slight grammatical error in BtS.
 * 3) **Addressed.
 * 4) * BtS could be expanded just a bit, methinks.
 * 5) **Largely useless paragraph added, though I couldn't think of anything better to add.
 * 6) * The sentence "Shu Mai was angry at Dooku, who had told her that the fall of Castell was all part of the plan; the Commerce Guild had become expendable, according to Mai." could be rewritten and potentially expanded upon.
 * 7) **Addressed.
 * 8) * "In 19 BBY, Shu Mai attended a meeting between the members of the Separatist Council and General Grievous, the supreme commander of the Separatist Droid Armies. The leaders of the Council were intimidated by Grievous, though they put up with him because of his alliance with Dooku. They met in Grievous's flagship, the Invisible Hand, where the cyborg told them that because their homeworlds had fallen to the Republic and their purse-worlds were no longer secure, they would be relocated to the Outer Rim territories; however, Grievous had yet to capture one for them. He told them to wait in their respective vessels docked on his flagship while he found them a suitable world." Needs to be rewritten to properly explain the situation; plus, Outer Rim Territories needs to be capitalized.
 * 9) **Addressed.
 * 10) *Other then that, a good read. TIMMMMBERRRR!!!-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 21:59, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) From the squalid cublicle of Graestan:
 * 12) *This is not a TOTJ article.
 * 13) **Not a rule based objection. :P
 * 14) * "The sly Mai then secretly aligned the Guild with the Confederacy of Independent Systems, a group of powerful individuals, led by the mysterious Darth Sidious, who broke away from and subsequently waged war on the Galactic Republic."&mdash;reword to avoid misinterpretation.
 * 15) **Addressed.
 * 16) * I know she was in charge, but as an elected leader, the Guild's forces did not belong personally to her. Please refrain from referring to the Guild and its possessions as "hers."
 * 17) **Addressed.
 * 18) * Ouch! Quote needed at beginning of bio, preferably between the headings!
 * 19) **Several quotes added.
 * 20) * A quote for P&T is desired.
 * 21) **Addressed.
 * 22) * "During the financial crisis, things became so severe for the saurian species that they were murdering each other over food, money and passage offworld, however the Commerce Guild stepped in and effectively saved the planet from complete disaster"&mdash;please break this up.
 * 23) **Addressed.
 * 24) * "higher and higher ranked" is an awkward phrasing.
 * 25) **Addressed.
 * 26) * Look over the links again; I see things linked on the second or third opportunity. Links are also missing for a few things further down.
 * 27) **Addressed.
 * 28) * You cannot call Ansion "insignificant" without explaining, or else it is POV.
 * 29) **Addressed.
 * 30) * "Senator" should always be capitalized as a title, such as "Senator Mousul."
 * 31) **Addressed.
 * 32) * Last paragraph of "Presidente" needs attention. Please reword, focusing on breaking up sentences and clearing up ambiguously interpreted phrasing.
 * 33) **Addressed.
 * 34) * "Just as it looked as if the Jedi would be executed"&mdash;reword, less neither-here-nor-there.
 * 35) **Addressed.
 * 36) * Beginning one paragraph with "several months later" and the next with "nine months later" is a little too play-by-playish for me.
 * 37) **Addressed.
 * 38) * "Knowing the Jedi were on her tail, and that the planet would soon fall from the CIS's grasp, she had a protocol put in place, which, if the planet became under attack, would poison the water supply of Felucia, crippling the planet and making it next to useless for the Republic."&mdash;please break up.
 * 39) **Addressed.
 * 40) * "planet Mustafar" shouldn't be used twice so close together.
 * 41) **Addressed.
 * 42) * Saying she was careful to remain within the letter of the law (in the bio) and then saying that she was willing to employ illegal methods (in the P&T) is contradictory.
 * 43) **Well, the thing about that is that she herself never broke the law, but she was happy to have others do it on her behalf. Anyway, I clarified it a little.
 * 44) *&mdash; Graestan [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 01:47, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 45) The infobox image needs to be sourced. --Eyrezer 02:37, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 46) *Addressed.
 * 47) From the lair of Hobbes15
 * 48) * "...and eventually rose ranks several more times." "rose ranks" doesn't sound that good, and should maybe be changed to was promoted or something.
 * 49) **Changed.
 * 50) * Is it just me, or is sly (intro) a little close to POV?
 * 51) **I don't think it is, but removed anyway.
 * 52) * Unsourced quote in Presidente section.
 * 53) **Addressed.
 * 54) * Dooku did not meet with Mai and other Separatists in 20 BBY, it must have been earlier. Correct this.
 * 55) **Addressed.
 * 56) * "Other than Mai and the Commerce Guild, no one had noticed that such a backwater planet as Ansion lay at the center of so many interlocking treaties." Wrong. The Jedi knew as well&mdash; that's why they sent the team to the planet. Perhaps change "no one" to very few.
 * 57) **Addressed.
 * 58) * Should "Separatist War Room" be linked? (Clone Wars)
 * 59) **Addressed.
 * 60) * "the situation."(lead quote of Close of the War)? This should be elaborated upon a bit.
 * 61) **Elaborated upon.
 * 62) * "Gunray, however, had no idea what Shu Mai was speaking about; he pretended that his mechno-chair had been malfunctioning,[16] though in truth it had been left behind after his evacuation on Cato Neimoidia, and was now in Republic hands.[10]" This doesn't make sense&mdash; what does Gunray's mechnochair have to do with Mai's communication, and if its been left behind, how did Mai talk to Gunray in the first place?
 * 63) **Clarified.
 * 64) * "she fell to her knees and begged for mercy, though the Sith was not a merciful being..." This should be reworded&mdash; mercy is used twice in quick succession, which sounds bad.
 * 65) **Addressed.
 * 66) *And that's all. Nice quote for Death, that's one of my favorites :). Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 14:50, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 67) **Thank you for your comments and input --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 15:24, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 68) *From the extensively pounded desk of Four Dot:
 * 69) ** Describing the species at the start of the article seems...well...racist. ;)
 * 70) ***Addressed to only describe her.
 * 71) ** "Mai was not the only one approached: Nute Gunray of the Trade Federation, former senators Po Nudo and Tikkes, San Hill of the InterGalactic Banking Clan, Wat Tambor of the Techno Union, as well as Archduke Poggle the Lesser and many others were approached by Dooku." - Approached twice...isn't doing wonders for me.
 * 72) ***Addressed.
 * 73) ** I'd like a bit more film-centric ness in the death section. At the moment, it seems like a mish-mash of the comic, the book, and the film, which is a tad untidy. I'm not even sure if the quote is canon.
 * 74) ***I've kept the quote in the absence of another one, though the section is now film-centric.
 * 75) **That's all. Thefourdotelipsis 00:27, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

(2 Inqs/0 Users/2 Total)
Support
 * 1) Havac 08:59, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) A good read.  Greyman ( Paratus ) 04:42, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Too bad about the lack of action images. Meh.-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 06:35, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Thefourdotelipsis 00:00, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Bah! More than 3 redlinks! :P  Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:10, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *Fixed. Havac 18:08, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Just a couple of minor things from the Forest of Goodwood.
 * 4) * Picture of a bacta tank is unneeded.
 * 5) **Not particularly, no, but it maintains a rather steady distribution of images instead of having one large section go completely without one and leave a large imageless blank space in the article. It's not particularly hurting anything and helps keep the presentation uniform, so I'd generally prefer it to stay. Havac 05:06, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) * Many of the pictures could be a bit bigger and repositioned to help break up the large blocks of text.
 * 7) **I think they're about as big as they can reasonably be. I'm not sure what you mean about repositioning them, though. There's not a whole lot of room to move them around. Havac 05:06, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) * At least one more action picture relating to Pelly would be nice, but isn't required if none are to be had.
 * 9) **None are to be had, unfortunately. Havac 05:06, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) *TIMMMMBERRRR!-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 04:38, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) This is minor, and I could be wrong, but shouldn't ranks like "Admiral" and "Moff" be capitalized all the time? For your sake, Havac, I hope I'm wrong.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 20:13, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No, I don't believe so. Havac 20:52, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * "...he admitted that he would need a top-flight slicer to travel to Yaga Minor and attempt..." - Eh, "top-flight" is very informal. Very. Thefourdotelipsis 08:54, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * "Pellaeon took the opportunity of being left along to have Dreyf jimmy open Disra's desk drawers." - Informal. Don't touch Jimmy! Thefourdotelipsis 08:55, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Get off Jimmy's back! Both fixed. Havac 23:57, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * Another insanely long article! This one is, BTW, a re-FA nomination. Havac 08:59, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

(4 Inqs/1 Users/5 Total)
Support
 * 1) Proof that good pilot does not imply good spy. Green Tentacle (Talk) 16:35, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Havac 17:05, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Goodwood  [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 20:31, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Refreshing to read about someone I never knew existed. &mdash;Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 23:18, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Yay! DeMaria! Thefourdotelipsis 09:38, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 6)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:07, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Comments
 * 1) The Dialogue template was decided against in [|policy]. --Eyrezer 00:43, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *Never did agree with that CT. Nevertheless, I've changed them. Green Tentacle (Talk) 01:15, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) **Lol, neither did I. :) --Eyrezer 01:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) It should be possible to add a bit more meat to the introduction, IMHO. -- Goodwood  [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 04:28, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) *Meatier. Green Tentacle (Talk) 13:49, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Before anybody asks, there are no pictures. Green Tentacle (Talk) 16:35, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I think the ref-tagged notes are better off as part of the BTS. Other than that (and the fact that it's short), it looks good to me. Havac 03:08, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I've moved them to BTS. Green Tentacle (Talk) 13:37, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

(3 Inqs/0 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) Thefourdotelipsis 08:17, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) "Confidence trickster." &mdash;Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 23:46, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) bah!  Greyman ( Paratus ) 17:36, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose

Comments
 * Bam! Thefourdotelipsis 08:17, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Not really an objection, but can that Quote page be cleaned up? Cull Tremayne 22:26, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * 1) Thefourdotelipsis 10:48, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2)  &mdash;Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 01:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Green Tentacle (Talk) 22:27, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * Can we get the Fact File number? Green Tentacle (Talk) 22:00, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * 1) Thefourdotelipsis 04:52, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * Part 2 of the cane saga. Next up, Michael Caine. Oh...damn. Thefourdotelipsis 04:52, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * 1) Thefourdotelipsis 12:19, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) QuentinGeorge 12:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * 1) From the fjord of Imperialles:
 * Image:Baytes.jpg is grainy&mdash;re-scan it. (Rule 16)
 * Image:BaytsOff.JPG has horrible .jpg artifacts. Re-scan it. (Rule 16)
 * Image:TheDeathofSoonBaytes.jpg, too, is in need of a re-scan. (Rule 16)
 * Other than that, nice handiwork. --Imperialles 17:12, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * I don't want to get ahead of myself, but let me just thank Fourdot for erecting such a magnificent article. If nothing else, he has proved he is still master of his domain, and not one to get swayed by a mass debate. QuentinGeorge 12:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Anyway, I doubt the article can reach an appropriate climax without a link to this thread. QuentinGeorge 12:27, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * 1) Nah-nah! --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 16:21, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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