Talk:Aayla Secura/Legends

Can someone please unlock this for a moment so that I can fix a double redirect problem? Can you stay off each other's throats that long?--Erl 01:43, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Aayla is DEAD. She's as dead as can be. Dozens of shots in the back should have made that obvious. Amy Allen herself debunked the rumor that the character will appear in the TV show. Please, just let this silly fanboy rumor die. JimRaynor55 07:45, 29 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 24.22.15.75 (try registering for a real name), provide evidence to support the rumor that Aayla could still be alive. This is getting really stupid. JimRaynor55 17:12, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * Currently it says her death is disputed. Is this intended? --SparqMan 19:27, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * We've had anons changing it to "maybe she's not dead", which is a dispute in my opinion. -- Riffsyphon1024 19:30, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * I've just reverted them again. Should I protect the page? -- Riffsyphon1024 22:48, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * The SW.com databank has just been updated. Here's what they had to say about Aayla: "Bly and his troops opened fire, riddling Secura's body with blaster bolts and killing her."  Case closed. JimRaynor55 05:35, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes. Let's hope for a new hot chick to carry the television series ;) -- Falmarin 05:37, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

she is not dead! or maybe she will appear as a ghost? no....
 * ummm, she will appear in the tv-show... thats what amy said... it is not confirmed if she will appear as a minor or very important chara, but she WILL appear in the tv-show!
 * Sure she's popular among the fans. She is Miss Star Wars 2005 after all. Nevertheless, she's dead like a realyl dead fish, and she should remain dead. If Lucas and co. let all popular jedi characters survive then the Era of the Rebellion would be overrun with Jedi, and there would be no point in all that Luke-as-the-last-of-the-Jedi talk in the original trilogy. KEJ 13:09, 9 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Planet
Which planet did she die on? - Sikon 04:06, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * Felucia. QuentinGeorge 04:07, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

SHES DEAD! GET OVER IT! SHES AWSOME BUT THERE NO SENSE IN CRYING OVER SPILLED MILK! Aayla IS SPILT MILK! wait.Italic text"Spilt milk?" Fireball93 01:22, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
 * THere's nothing wrong in asking where she died though! KEJ 13:09, 9 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Quote
For some reason, I have doubts about its validity. - Sikon [ Talk ] 08:54, 26 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, it is a quote from Rite of Passage. But I think we can find a better one... QuentinGeorge 08:57, 26 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Aayla secura
Aayla is dead but her twin sister Alias is alive.hid in felucia from 19 bby to 10000000 aby.maybe they got Alias confused with her sister Aayla.but unlike her twin sister Aayla she never ever got corrupt to the dark side.
 * Maybe in your Fanon universe, but this encyclopedia is a chronicle of canon facts and events only. As fas as this site is concerned, "Alias" doesn't exist and Aayla is dead. Dead, as in shot multiple times with blasters on camera and stated to be dead in the official site databank. She's a stiff. Bereft of life, she rests in peace. And attempting to dispute canon facts or post your fanon creations here is a quick way to get banned. &mdash;Darth Culator   (talk)  22:57, 9 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * So, should Alias Secura redirect to List of fanon creations, or should it just be speedied? &mdash; Silly Dan  23:24, 9 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * I say speedy it, and ban anyone who recreates it. &mdash;Darth Culator   (talk)  23:26, 9 Nov 2005 (UTC)

cyborg
Aayla is dead but in an episode VI shows Aayla as a Cyborg.Misson on the otherhand is alive but is a cyborg.Mission Vao and Yuthra Ban are the first cyborg Twi'lek and are Alpha.Aayla and a purple twi'lek in Return Of The Jedi are Beta.Aayla became a cyborg 2 Aby Misson and Yuthra became a cyborg 452 Bby.
 * I don't believe any word of this i think youre lying this all up. User:General Secura
 * I have given up trying to reason with this nutbar. I just clean up after him and wait patiently for someone to ban him. &mdash;Darth Culator   (talk)  19:17, 18 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Cyborg?? what are you talking about... That's crazy! User: Ruffles
 * Ya, does anybody know what that dude is talking about? Aayla isn't in A New Hope... and Mission and Aayla are born centuries apart... didn't you notice that the title of the game was Knights of the Old Republic? Aayla lived near the end of the Republic... plus, the sith academy on Korriban was wiped out before The Phantom Menace! So, she's not even close when it comes to them being in A New Hope! Starwarsnerd 03:06, 3 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Everyone back away slowly, maintain eye-contact, then run.*Laughs madly. Boy, aren't there enough Aayla Fanboys already, and what is up with that guy and Twi'leks? User:Ruffles

How to correctly pronounce Aayla's name
Anyone who wants to know how "Aayla" is pronounced, check out these two video interviews from Starwars.UGO.com: "Girls of Star Wars" interviewwhich features Amy Allen. and this interview with Jan Duursema. In both interviews, Aayla's name is said/pronounced.


 * I think you can also hear someone say Aayla's name in the Clone Wars cartoons (I'm not sure who says it), but I think it is pronounced the same way in the cartoon as it is in those interviews. Good interviews, I always wondered what Amy Allen's (and therefore Aayla's) voice sounded like. 151.203.164.156 20:24, 8 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Ki-Adi-Mundi says her name is Clone Wars Chapter 21. QuentinGeorge 05:14, 9 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * I always assumed it was pronounced A-lah. -- Riffsyphon1024 23:14, 8 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * I read a forum once where someone said that it was pronounced: "EYE-lah". I guess they were wrong, since A-lah seems to be what Jan Duursema, Amy Allen, and Ki-Adi-Mundi use.
 * I can't watch the video, that stupid "UGO" ad always redirects me to their site! I'm not even clicking on anything! Starwarsnerd 03:02, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Miss Star Wars 2005
I think Aayla deserves to win, she's the hottest babe in the Star Wars universe.

General Secura

...and we'd hate to see Bastilla win :-P KEJ 14:46, 12 Dec 2005 (UTC)

I definately agree with ya, why would a hottie like Aayla lose to some KOTOR character??

Aayla's biggest fan


 * Maybe because it is normal for us humans to better like a human female than a Twi'lek one? - TopAce 20:38, 26 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * There are just a few differences: the skin color, and the head tentacles. That's it for the differences. Master Secura
 * And she's more flesh and blood than a computer generated spoiled jedi princess without who KOTOR would be a much better game :-P KEJ 20:23, 2 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * If Khaleen was more well-known, she'd have won. But then Khaleen lacks ANY shreds of class, while Aayla is quite classy. --Master Starkeiller 20:30, 2 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Khallen's head's too big - at least on the image in her article :-P KEJ 11:57, 3 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Native tongue version
The Wikipedia listed it as Aayl'asecura. Anyone got a definitive ref as to which one is right?
 * Aayla Secura is the name which is used in every source. Since there are a lot of mistaken info on the standard Wikipedia (not only about SW, unfortunately), I think I would only trust the official sources. StarWars.com sure has her name as Aayla Secura, so I think this is the version we should use. - TopAce 12:24, 3 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * He meant her name in Ryl; that's indicated to be "Aaylas'ecura" in The Dark Forces Saga, Part 4: Of the Crudest Matter. However, our Twi'lek article indicates that dividing the name up isn't always done exactly the same way, so we probably shouldn't sweat it too much if Wikipedia has something else. jSarek 14:58, 3 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Why the heck is she listed under her Ryl name? She didn't use her Ryl name. This is fanwank.
 * Our policy is to use the most "correct" name; so, full names over nicknames, and names in the native tongue over translated names. - Lord Hydronium 11:00, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Except that Ryl takes in certain factors including superstition, the fame of the person, and other things. It could sound like anything. -- SFH 21:50, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
 * She never used it after she left Ryloth, or even when she was on it, to our knowledge. Aayla Secura is almost certainly her legal name in the Republic and the Jedi Temple, as it's the one she and everyone else close to her use. The two-word name is definitely the most common, dominant, and last-used name and should be used. As far as I can tell, "Chewbacca" isn't even pronouncable in Shyriiwook - if his "untranslated" name is Rawr*growl*aererareara, should he be put under that? I think it's a little useless to try and use the "native tongue" version when we're transliterating the "native tongue" into English to begin with. Yrfeloran 22:02, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
 * If that is her actual name, then yes. It belongs. If Chewie's real name can be written using our alphabet (and it is revealed at some point) then it will be changed to that as well.--DannyBoy7783 23:58, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Aayla was raised from a very young age by the Jedi on Republic and as can be seen, has little in common culturally with the Twi'leks of Ryloth. I doubt she ever used the Ryl version of her name. Indeed, her name might actually be "Aayla Secura" legally. QuentinGeorge 00:25, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll add that just because the Twi'leks call her Aaylas'ecura doesn't necessarily make it her "true" name. It may be her birthname (but really, Aayla's still the name and Secura the clan name), but like with Grievous, it's not what she uses even when she goes back. The Twi'leks also call Wedge Wedg'antilles, after all. I think we should go with what she decided to use, not what other people who are not her called her. Aayla doesn't want to be thought of as a pampered Twi'lek princess or as a dancing girl, she wants to be thought of as a Jedi, and she's made this very clear. Yrfeloran 04:17, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed completely. I think it's abundantly clear to anyone who knows Aayla's character that she would be vehemently opposed to choosing the names the Twi'leks would call her over the name the Jedi would call her. For that matter, it's not even clear that Twi'leks in the prequel era used the traditional naming conventions, even among themselves. We see multiple scenes in Rite of Passage with Twi'leks talking to each other on Ryloth using the Core names.Dizfactor 01:35, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * The Dark Forces article, however, refers to her by her Ryl name in an official context. It specifically doesn't call Anoon Bondara, Orn Free Taa, and the like by any other name, so it's not like it simply translated all the Twi'lek names.  Her name was specifically chosen to be written in its Ryl form.  As to nobody calling her by that name, that shouldn't be an issue.  Thrawn didn't go by Mitth'raw'nuruodo at all in the last years of his life, but that didn't keep it from still being his real name.  Now if Aayla officially changed her name, that's a different matter.  But there's no indication of that, and Dark Force article suggests otherwise, or it would call her Aayla Secura in the same way it says Bib Fortuna (whose name was officialy changed).  - Lord Hydronium 02:16, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

make out
doesn't that picture look like kit is makin out with aylla? I mean why would'nt he she's got hot tits and she is sexy! 69.26.107.174
 * Errr.... KEJ 12:05, 3 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I guess this is what happens when you let anyone say anything. Take the good with the bad. -- AdmThrawn --
 * Someone delete this comment! --Master Starkeiller 12:12, 3 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * There is a lesson to be learned here... never let your A99 aquata breather out of your sight!!! Just look at his cheeky grin; how could anybody in the galaxy trust Kit Fisto... his name doesn't help either --Azizlight 12:15, 3 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Kit Fisto -- date rapist? Not my Kit! -- AdmThrawn 12:18, 3 Jan 2006 (UTC) --
 * Errr.... KEJ 19:18, 3 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * You'd be surprised at how big a market there is for alien interspecies underwater oxygen-swapping hentai. --MarcK [talk] 19:25, 3 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Now I understand why they only want talk pages to talk about the article itself. -- SFH 19:28, 3 Jan 2006 (UTC)

who is this guy? 69.26.107.174


 * The guy who commented on Aayla's attributes? Oh, I believe that was you. KEJ 08:11, 4 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Haha, what a dill. -- Doo Doo 01:32, 3 February 2006 (UTC)


 * ??? You don't know what you said?? HAH

Quote
I kind of like the quote. KEJ 15:09, 11 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks KEJ, I tried really hard to find a suitable one ^^ --[[Image:BFguy.gif]]--Inmobilus 15:28, 11 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * I think it's cool. The only thing that would be better would be something like "KEJ, I think you're much hotter than Kit Fisto" but she's probably never gonna say anything like that :-( ..... No, I think the quote you've found is very cool, because she's a female, but she can still kick butt the Jedi way KEJ 15:35, 11 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * hahaha, lol ^^ --[[Image:BFguy.gif]]--Inmobilus 15:38, 11 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, the quote is very good. And even funnier is that it's Aayla's cousin who says it. Aayla should say: "I don't care if you're my cousin, i don't care that you're the clan Secura heir, but if you CLAIM that i am no good Jedi then you're toast, twerp." Master Secura

Her rank
In obsession 1, Obi-wan refers to her as Master Secura. Did she at anytime ascend to the rank of master, or is this just a glitch?


 * Yes, is she a master or what? In the Sith Snapshot showing her belly jewel, it also says 'Master Secura'. Master Secura
 * "Master" is used as a honorific term for all Jedi of the rank of knight and above. Note in AOTC, Kenobi is called "Master Kenobi" despite only being a knight. QuentinGeorge 20:03, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
 * But Kenobi was actively training a padawn learner at the time. Does this mean Aayla had a padawan? -- SFH 20:10, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Aayla was leading a force of clones at the time that Order 66 was executed. I was under the impression that those Jedi in such "leader positions" during that time were Masters and that those of lesser rank served beneath them, but still above clones themselves. I believe she had her own unit of clone troopers. Perhaps that was just the impression I got.
 * Anakin was a knight, yet was also a General. QuentinGeorge 08:36, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * In the new Sith Snapshot of her it again says: Jedi Master Aayla Secura. Master Secura
 * I would very much question that, since she never trained a padawan. QuentinGeorge 11:20, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I believe Aayla did not train a padawan at all, though it was common for a jedi knight to be a general, such as Barriss Offee on Felucia with Aayla, she was a Knight, though also having a Padawan at that time according to some sources. I think it was also possible for Aayla to have been appointed Master for some other reason then training a Padawan.  In ROTS Mace Windu said to Anakin that we have not given you the rank of Master despite being on the Council.  I think this does show that there was a possibility that Anakin be appointed as a Master, other than training a Padawan.  This could have been the case with Aayla too, espicially with regards to her knowledge of the dark side. - --Master Sage 22:34, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
 * What do you mean "knowledge of the dark side"? She has no more knowledge than Obi-Wan Kenobi, and he wasn't a Master until the age of 36. Anakin expected the title because he was on the Council - but Secura was never near that stage, and, keep in mind, she only became a knight in 28 BBY. QuentinGeorge 05:07, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
 * They never did say whose Padawan Zonder was... CooperTFN 22:37, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Saesee Tiin never took a Padawan yet he became a master and a council member. Randar Kal 01:39, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
 * You've just answered your own question. He became a Master because he became a Council Member. Aayla was neither. QuentinGeorge 20:04, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
 * With regard to QuentinGeorge's last post: It clearly says in Aayla's entry here that she turned to the dark side at one point; http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/Aayla_Secura#Brush_with_the_dark_side
 * "Brushing" the dark side doesn't give you knowledge over it. QuentinGeorge 11:01, 19 March 2006 (UTC)