Talk:Jango Fett/Archive1

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Image
The image should be replaced with one with his helmet off --Imp 22:20, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I suppose you could just switch the two on this page. -- Falmarin 22:36, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh, right. The picture needs to be of better quality though. --Imp 22:39, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

After Death
After Jango's death at the Battle of Geonosis, does the Grand Army of the Republic know that their progenitor defected to the Confederacy? -- Eddyward Telerionus 04:11, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC) If you honestly believe that the clones could not think independently, then you should read the Republic Commando novels. The clones thought independently; they just kept it to themselves when the jedi were around.
 * They're clones. They had much trouble thinking on their own. Exceptions included Alpha-Ø2. -- Riffsyphon1024 04:29, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, does the Republic know that Jango defected to the Confederacy? -- Eddyward Telerionus 01:37, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Obi-Wan fought him on Kamino, and Mace Windu killed him at Geonosis, so presumably they knew. Why this didn't rouse the Jedi's suspicions is unclear, and unlikely to be explained. &mdash; Silly Dan  01:52, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I'm, pretty sure that when jango says that he is a simple man, he is just saying that to derive suspicion from himself. : Master Illidan 01:39, 2 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Deal With Tyranus Picture
That picture has got to go. The picture of Jango shaking hands with Tyranus over the dead body of Komari Vosa. You can barely make out what's going on. Come on. It's got to be replaced. Suggestions? --AdmThrawn 06:04, 14 Jan 2006 (UTC)

i agree. take out the pic with komari. in the game you could see it, but now you cant. if you have The Ultimate Visual Dictionary book, then look in there and see if you can scan the picture of jango and dooko making the deal. ill try it, then ill see if i can put it up here.Yoda1300 23:10, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * We could always brighten it, like with did with that certain grievous picture.--Xilentshadow900 14:07, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)

I can replace this image with a much better screenshot - but - I believe it's not actually the canon version of the handshake/deal. I think Open Seasons 4 overrides that part of Bounty Hunter, so that one could go in (though it's not all that pretty). Is there a different version than the one in Open Seasons in the Ultimate Visual Dictionary? Alternately, scan another part of their meeting in Open Seasons 4? Yrfeloran 05:06, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Jango as Mandalore
If Jango was Mandalore, the highest position for the mandalorians, what was he doing as a bounty hunter? How come this is never mentioned in the movies?
 * Read the article. Kuralyov 17:45, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Jango or Boba
Who is the best mandalorian? Jango or Boba. Who is best Bounty Hunter? Jango or Boba.
 * Jango was stronger but Boba was smarter. I'd say Boba because he escaped the sarlec. --Dumac 05:03, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

i think jango would have escaped the sarlaac he never fell down one he had the same armor and boba is only better because he lived longer if jango would have been better. remember he fought against obi-wan one of the better knights in the order and he was killed by windu the second best jedi in the jedi order, and he was decapitated something done only to the most dengorouse opponents that can not be permited to live. and he killed coleman trebor a jedi master on the council, jango was a great and powerful warrior.--Goolix 16:29, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Boba is way better than Jango.Jango went and got killed while boba lasted way longer
 * This is not the place for such discussion - all opinions shoud be kept off of the talk page. However, the New Essensial Chronology does mention Jango as the greatest of the Mandalorians and Boba the best bounty hunter. Jango Fett107 13:26, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

If you read bossk's article it will tell you what happens to boba fettThire 4477 05:39, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Jango was known for both his strenghth and good fighthing/shooting skills (he did shoot a Reek dead with a good aim to the forehead when it was charging at him), but Boba was known for his brein, he preffered to outsmart his target.--Ima Wiz Iway amway Imagineway Izardway. 15:58, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Jango's Armor
How do we know that the armor from galidraan is his armor repainted, and not myles' armor? Why would it be repainted?--Xilentshadow900 22:33, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Myles was chopped in half - so his armor was ruined - the lightsaber cut through it. The Governor specifically says, "I didn't spend thousands of credits restoring that armor to have it stolen by some thug." Logically, it's Jango's armor, spruced up, so the Governor could hang it in his trophy room. Why would he mount the armor of the second-in-command rather than the leader? Makes no sense that way. QuentinGeorge 22:37, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
 * "I didn't spend thousands of credits restoring that armor to have it stolen by some thug." Wouldn't it make sense to restore the armor to before it was ruined by a lightsaber? It doesn't cost much to shine metal.--Xilentshadow900 22:41, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
 * It's not Myles's armor. It looks completely different - it lacks the yellow trimmings, for one. And again, why would he mount the ruined armor of the second in command, rather than the fairly complete armor of the Mandalorian leader? QuentinGeorge 22:53, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, "Jango Fett wore the signature armor of a Mandalorian warrior, restored by the Governor of Galidraan." is good enough. I think it's just a matter of interpretation, and it's not really worth debating.--Xilentshadow900 23:20, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Personally, I don't think it was Jango's armor, although it doesn't really say for sure. If it was, then the governor "restored" it to the wrong color.  The armor Jango was wearing when he was captured, was VERY different than the set he took from the governor.  It was the same color scheme as Jaster Mereel's.  It might have even been Jaster's armor.

http: //i9.photobucket.com/albums/a85/Mandalorian_Boba_Fett/jangosecondarmormontage.jpg

And the armor he wore before that was more like Boba's color scheme, only with the pistols and leg armor pieces.

http: //i9.photobucket.com/albums/a85/Mandalorian_Boba_Fett/jangofirstarmormontage2.jpg

Hope this helps out some. Sadriel Fett (Mando'a) 01:53, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Jangos's father
Who is Jango Fett's Father? --Clone Paratrooper 23:47, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * They never say his name in the Open Seasons comic book, just that he was a Journeyman Protector on Concord Dawn. They just have a picture of him, his mother and siblings.  He is listed on the site, however, under Fett (Elder Journeyman Protector).  Sadriel Fett (Mando'a) 01:40, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

AOTC helmeted picture
There were publicity shots made of Morrison in the full Jango armor that look a lot better than the current one with the kneeling pose. Could we switch it to a better one? Then why does Boba have a helmeted pic? - Milo Fett Comlink 03:07, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No. Unhelmeted pic belongs in the infobox. - QuentinGeorge (at work)
 * ...Please point out to where I said anything about the infobox. Pay attention and read what I typed again: I was requesting that the kneeling photo be switched with a different pose. @_@
 * First off, for practical reasons. Go and find us a picture of Boba Fett without his helmet on. We'll wait. Second, Jango was much more likely to not wear his helmet, or even his armor, in public. Boba, on the other hand, practically slept with his on. When asked by Dengar what his face looked like, Boba replied, "This is my face," in reference to his helmet (I'm paraphrasing, and it might not have been Dengar because I read those books like six years ago). Boba had an almost emotional attachment to his armor, while Jango saw it as just another piece of useful equipment. AdmThrawn 21:52, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Slave I pic
Shouldn't we use an image of it as it appeared when Jango owned it.--Darth OblivionComlink 03:45, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree. Just noticed that, myself.  Sadriel Fett (Mando'a) 05:55, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Looks like Havac beat me to it. I was looking around for a pic to use.  I was originally going to put that on on there, too, but thought it'd look better if we didn't use an image already on the Slave 1 article.  I found this promo art and thought it'd look better.  Let me know what you think?  Sadriel Fett (Mando'a) 05:50, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/0/01/Jango_version_Slave_1.jpg
 * That's prettier than the one I dug up. Go for it. Havac 05:55, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Will do. Thanks.  Sadriel Fett (Mando'a) 06:00, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Clone story
Does anyone know the source for this paragraph in the article? I had never heard of this before. Sadriel Fett (Mando'a) 05:18, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

"Jango's clones told themselves a different story of his death, however: that he was unaware of Dooku's treason and unwilling to ruin his honor by going back on his word, and killed twelve Jedi Masters before being killed himself. Although the details of Jango's death eventually became clear (that he only killed one Jedi master shortly before Mace Windu easily killed him), the clones nonetheless continued to faithfully serve under the Jedi, even Windu. "
 * It's from Shatterpoint I'm pretty sure.
 * No it is not. More likely it is from the most recent Clone Wars multimedia project.

Info Box
Am Changing this to the Mandalorian info box, if Boba's gonna have it over the Bounty Hunter box so should Jango N.Y.N.E. Comlink 16:03, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Featured...
Does anyone consider this to be featured article material? After all, the article isn't that bad, and it's a popular character. Unit 8311 18:49, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not perfect, but it's worth I shot for nominating. I'd support it. Jango Fett107 13:26, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Weapons?
When Obi-Won fought Jango and Jango fell off the cloning faclity where is the mention of the blades Jango used to stop his fall?

In Boba Fett: A Fight to Survive, Boba calls the blades gripping claws. Good enough for you? Mand&#39;alor Fett II 13:25, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

I have another question: Why nobody can deflect the shoots from Jango's twin blasters against him? Did he uses some kind of special ammo? For example: Obi Wan and Mace Windu in the Attack of the Clones.

CIS
I am changing his infobox to a CIS infobox as he died as a member of the CIS. Kal-El of Krypton Beats me but I do know that on a 12" action figure of jango the blades are included.
 * And I am changing it back because he was first a Mandalorian, and died a Mandalorian. His loyalty was not to the CIS, his loyalty was to who paid his fee. - JMAS 18:41, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Main Image
I nominate this to be Jango Fetts main image, as it is a canon dipiction and it shows both his face and his armour, and its a nice picture. Darth Vatrir
 * And it is an illustration, not a live action image. Unless no live action image is available, illustration/drawn images do not go in the infobox. - JMAS 18:38, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Bounty Hunter
I'm changing it to a bounty hunter infobox due to the fact he was not actually on the CIS but a bounty hunter when he died. JMAS you stated his loyalty was to those who paid his fee making him a bounty hunter (or mercenary) when he died. Also I don't think anyone else knows more about Jango than me here. Jango Fett 9 April 2007 ApprenticeEternal 17 April 2007
 * A question, then? Did he know Dooku commanded the Jedi at Galidraan? If he did, whty did he take orders from him?

Main Page Picture
This picture of Jango Fett is good, but this other image is better. I think we should hold a vote betweeen the current one and the better, second one. LukeSkywalker 6:19 p.m. 4 May 2007

Votes for Image 1

 * 1) We already have picture 2 in the article.--Windu223 22:50, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Okay, you win. The vote is over. LukeSkywalker 12:39, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

boba
when i try to talk on boba fett my cpu says the web explorer had a problem post some help on my talk page Clonetroop125 14:58, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Weapons
"You know how much these MM-nines cost?"
 * Okay, in what source does it say that Jango used a Kelvarex Consolidated Arms MM9 mini concussion rocket? Because I own the The New Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology and the Star Wars Roleplaying Game Revised Core Rulebook and nowhere does it say he used one, at least to my knowledge. Both the Roleplaying Game Revised Core Rulebook and the CUSWE say he used the MM7 wrist rocket, and not the MM9 mini concussion rocket like the article says. Which is it? If the article is wrong, it should be removed, otherwise, somebody please provide a source. -- Jango Fett107 (Comlink) JaingHead.svg 15:50, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The source is in Bloodlines, page 316.

- Boba Fett after launching an MM9 mini concussion rocket from his jetpack. . Hope that helps you. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 03:41, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Is ity possible that Jango used a different type of rocket? Kom&#39;rk Vhett 02:19, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Did he know about order 66
When he says they will do their job well is this refering to order 66 jedi? After all Jango wasnt a fan of them

I think only the clones and Palpatine knew about Order 66, and Jango probably did'nt know Palpatine. He's just saying they will be good soldiers. Darth Oompa Loompa 19:07, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that he was referring to Order 66, just that Jango didn't realize it. Kom&#39;rk Vhett 02:18, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Jango+Zam=Sone?
Is it at all possible for Jango to be the father of Sone, Zam Wesell's daughter?JediBob 20:20, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I think not. RC-1136 16:27, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

UNLESS the mother betrayed him! Although Jango often told Boba never to be attached, by love or friendship. However, Boba suspected that Jango was friends with Zam, as opposed to just allies. Darth Venia
 * This is something that I highly doubt. Based on the Mandalorian culture, the responsibility of father to son/duaghter is extremely important. And Jango would never have fathered a duaghter and then killed the mother. Kom&#39;rk Vhett 02:16, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Couple of Questions
1. Is Jango an adopted Mandalorian, as opposed to a born Mandalorian like Canderous Ordo and Skirata? If so, it should probably be spelled out a bit better in the article, because I only got the impression that he was an adopted Mandalorian, and it should be made clear.

2. How sure are we that Kreia was talking about Jango when she gave her prophecy to the Jedi Exile? I've played KOTOR II and I got the impression that she was talking about the extinction of the Mandalorians, and yet Boba becomes Mandalore and leads a whole group of Mandalorians. In addition, in the Republic Commando books you meet Skirata and Walon Vau who trained Omega and Delta Squad and they're both Mandalorians, and you meet them after Jango's death. Is there a clear reference to Jango being the prophesied one, or is this just something that people are assuming?

3. Why the freak was this section taken out? There is no reason for it. Anakinjmt 18:53, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

jango fett return from the dead?
This wiki takes game as info to right? then how does jango fett appear in video games? BECAUSE HES STILL ALIVE!!!!!!! please guys? i miss him.
 * Uh, no. He's dead. No one survives getting their head chopped off by a lightsaber. And it's not our call. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 22:39, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

When darth krayt is hunting down cade, why dosent he say, for this i need the best bounty hunter, and he ressurects jango.
 * Jango is dead, that's why. He's been dead for 159 years. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 19:48, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

BUT, we can ressurect him.
 * No, we can't. Take it to the fanon wiki if you want Jango Fett running around in the Legacy era. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 13:38, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Early years
I suggest we add an image of jangos homestead on Concord Dawn

question
Shouldn't we put that he is in the forced unleashed?Knight 21 02:11, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Definitely should be added to the appearances section. &mdash;  Sadriel Fett  Mandalorian Neo-Crusader and Modern Era Symbol.JPG 18:20, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

What if...
What if Jango didn't die? He probably would still fight for the CIS though, right?
 * First, sign your posts with four tildes (~). Second, this page is for discussion of improvements to the article, not disputing whether or not the man got his head cut off in front of millions. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 04:38, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Height
The reference for his height is not a reference! it is a note! It says that although his height is 1.83, the actor who played him is shorter (1.78) and this is reflected in the height of the clones in the Cestus deception being 1.78. So my question is where is his height officially listed as 1.83. I think it was probably based off of Boba's height. I'm sure some resource book used it as such. Well if the Cestus deception is the latest resource to mention height, and if it matches up to what is seen on screen better, we should go with that. (I am not saying that the clones have to be the same height as Jango mind you...it just seems that the source of this 1.83 is the root of the problem, so I wanted to fix it at the source first.) Can anyone tell me where the 1.83 came from? Is that source more valid than what is visually determinable in the movie? If the 1.83 is based on Boba's height in the OT, then this is outdated information and should no longer be used. IthinkIwannaLeia WaddaUthink? 15:32, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Databank. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 15:40, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Tattoos
The article: "Tattoos" says he has tattoos on his arms. Could someone get me a picture of that.---LandonJaeger 19:58, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Kreia's Prophesy
"They will die a death that will last millennia, until all that remains is their code, their history, and in the end, the shell of their armor upon the shell of a man, too easily slain by Jedi."

- Kreia predicts the end of the Mandalorians

I went ahead and removed the portion concerning Kreia's prediction of the fall of the Mandalorians and its relation to Jango from the article. While it's incredibly likely that Jango was who the KOTOR creators had in mind, in the context of the EU the prophecy refering to Jango as the last Mandalorian doesn't fit the bill as there are millions of other Mandalorians in the galaxy, including such featured characters as Fenn Shysa, Tobbi Dala, Kal Skirata, and even the other New Mandalorians from the Clone Wars show. So while this is really going to suck for some Mando down the line (assuming the prophecy is fulfilled) it can't be Jango.--Bella&#39;Mia 05:49, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree, that prophecy implies that this guy will be the last one ever, he just isn't. VhettSkirata Mando&#39;ade 21:08, March 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * This quote implies a lot of things other than Jango possibly being the last Mandalorian. "Dying a death that will last millennia" can mean that the Mandalorians had reached the peak of their society (nearly defeating the Republic and conquering the Galaxy) and had no where to go but downhill from there. Almost four thousand years later, by Jango Fett's time, the Mandalorians were certainly not what they used to be during the times of Ulic Qel-Droma or Darth Revan. By the time of the Clone Wars, the Mandalorians of Mandalore the Ultimate were nothing more than a memory. All that was left of them was their code and history. The people that inherited the "Mandalorian identity" were divided between Satine's pacifists, Death Watch terrorists, and Spar's Protectors; Jango Fett's "True Mandalorians" were already dead. Kreia's prediction reflects the *end*of the Mandalorians as they were during her time. What was left of the Mandalorians during the Clone Wars was a pale shadow of their former glory. And Jango was easily slain by a Jedi. In a way, his death marked the *end*(or at least a very sharp decline) of the Mandalorians since they did not recover some measure of their former glory until Boba Fett became Mandalore long after Jango's death. It's similar to Anakin Skywalker's status as the "Chosen One." His prophecy was ultimately fulfilled, but the Sith survived in several new incarnations. The same can be said with the Mandalorians. What was left of their legacy all but died with the last Mandalore of the True Mandalorians. But as with the Jedi and the Sith, the Republic and the Empire, the Mandalorians gradually returned in a "new incarnation", like a rebirth in a way. Thus, Kreia's quote can be put back into Jango's Legacy Section, especially since it comes from a canon source like KOTOR II, without coming off as signaling the permanent end of the Mandalorians. JRT2010 08:34, November 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's complete speculation, unfortunately. You make an interesting argument, but I think you're attributing more to Kreia's statement than what is actually there. She foretells the end of the Mandalorians, not a renaissance after a "sharp decline", to use your own words. I'm again removing that portion, because there's yet to be any specific evidence claiming that she was speaking of Jango. Bella&#39;Mia 02:20, November 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * The shell of their armor upon the shell of a man, too easily slain by Jedi - Jango Fett was a broken man after his Mandalorians were killed and continued to wear their armor. He was easily killed by Mace Windu. There may be some issues over what she meant by the "death" of the Mandalorians, but she's clearly talking about Jango Fett. That quote was vague, probably intended to be so, but it still comes from a canon source and should be included as such one way or another, not outright removed for lack of clarity. JRT2010 11:16, November 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * There is nothing canon that says it's Jango, that is purely your own speculation/fan theory, thus there's no reason to include it here. –Tm_T (Talk) 11:44, November 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Then Kreia's prophecy can still go on the Mandalorian page since, according to Bella'Mia, it deals with the end of the Mandalorians. JRT2010 11:51, November 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a perfectly fair move, JRT. Much more appropriate there, where the ambiguity can't be debated, than here where it can. Bella&#39;Mia 05:13, November 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sure some "Fandalorian" out there would try to debate that...the whole "end of the Mandalorians" thing. Hell, some would probably prefer it be Jango, since the Mandalorians went on after him. JRT2010 11:50, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Master
We shouldn't call Jaster Mereel his "master", as "master" should only be used used when refering to Jedi. While it does make sense, it is just confusing, causing a casual reader to maybe think Jango Fett is Force sensitive. Correct me if I am incorrect about this, but we do not say that a non-Force sensitive person has a "master" anywhere else on this website, so why should this be an exception?EVANTHETOON 00:22, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * The Jedi are not unique in their use of the master/apprentice system, and in the Mandalorian culture, children are apprenticed to their mother or father in order to learn the military and survival skills they'll need in their life until reaching the age of 13. Therefore, the use of the "Master" field is relevant to Jango and a number of other Mandalorian characters. Also, even the most casual of readers is hardly likely to glimpse a single note in the infobox and seek no further information from the article itself for clarification. Let's give the casual reader a bit more credit. Bella&#39;Mia 03:35, September 18, 2010 (UTC)