Talk:Ahsoka Tano/Legends

Adding Quotes
Should we add any Qoutes from the comics? Drsdino 01:55, 5 April 2009 (UTC)  If you click on the comic, it'll take you to a page about it, and if you click on the cover, you get to preview up to 4 pages of it. I looked at all of the previews.--Artoo-DroidWhy did you have to be so brave? 09:16, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think yes. ShaakTi1138 08:27, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure. Why not? --Artoo-DroidWhy did you have to be so brave? 20:17, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Absolutely.  ZEM  talk to me!   20:18, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Well do you know of any? Drsdino 20:42, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't remember any because I don't own any of the comics. Anybody else?  ZEM  talk to me!   23:28, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * 'Fraid not. I've never read them. Yet. --Artoo-DroidWhy did you have to be so brave? 06:17, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * That makes three of us.Drsdino 21:29, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You may be able to find some quotes in the previews of the comics here:
 * No, not really, there really isn't much to quote of from the comic previews.Drsdino 21:31, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree...just a shot in the dark. I did read the graphic novel "Shipyards of Doom" last month, but I can't think of any especially good Ahsoka quotes from it...--Artoo-DroidWhy did you have to be so brave? 06:57, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * As per the existing Ahsoka project for WP:TCW, I'll be adding quotes from the graphic novellas, as well as extensive information regarding Ahsoka from the comics.  JangFett  Talk 07:05, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

clothing and age
is there any reason that some edits where removed from that section? is it closed or something? and if it is, can we restart it here, i dont feel like the discussion is over. im new to this and still trying to work out whats going on. Death swamp 20:39, 4 June 2009 (UTC)death swamp
 * Which section are you referring to? The most recent edits to the page were reverted because they were off-topic.  CC7567  (talk) 20:40, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * i dont see how they where off topic. under the first "clothing and age" section. it may have changed the subject, but it still was about "clothing and age". i really dont care, just wanna know whats going on.
 * This page is for edits regarding the article itself, not the article's subject. That's why they were removed, because they were off-topic, and also because the discussion is outdated and is not currently continuing.  CC7567  (talk) 20:57, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * well, nothing in that section had to do with the article. Death swamp 21:07, 4 June 2009 (UTC)death swamp
 * Hence why the discussion isn't still going on.  CC7567  (talk) 21:43, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Ataru, maybe?
In Duel of the Droids, when Ahsoka is w/ the clones and she confronts Grievous, she takes out her blade and twirls it then puts it parallel to her body, like she is in Ataru opening stance. Is it possible she could be a possible user? ARC Commander Zek 01:38, 14 June 2009 (UTC) PS- That scene is fast so you might not notice it. > JangFett  Talk 01:44, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Currently, she has been using the unorthodox Shien grip for her lightsaber style. With the assistance of Anakin, she will be learning variants of Form V.<span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * Ahsoka does use Ataru because she used it with Anakin in a training session before the Battle of Bothawui. Check the Form IV: Ataru article if you want to confirm it. She's not in the infobox though; she's in the Practitioners section halfway down the page.--UnlimitedPower 18:05, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * She's not a notable practitioner.  JangFett  (Talk) 18:28, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Age when becoming a padawan
If Ahsoka was 14 when she became a padawan then wouldn't she be to old to just become a padawan. I thought past information sources said that if you weren't chosen to be a padawan at the age of 13 then you were sent to the jedi service corps.
 * Do not expect the new Clone Wars series to follow any sort of already established canon. That's all I can say.  CC7567  (talk) 00:39, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Birth Year
ok so it says that ahsoka was born in 36BBY yet anakin was born in 41BBY making them 7 years apart and i am sure that it not right that waould make ahsoka 14. but anakin says "I'm not even sure that you are old enough to be a padwan". and the age you can be sent to the corps is 13. so can we please check this its confusing me!!!!!!
 * According to the BTS section of this article, George Lucas says she's supposed to be 11 as of the start of the cartoon series, though several other sources say 14. I would think that Lucas saying she's 11 would override the other sources simply because he's Lucas, thus making her birth year 33 BBY rather than 36 BBY. &mdash; Red XIV (talk) 05:52, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Except for the fact that sources published after Lucas's statement continued to reference the 14-year-old position. Also, just because Lucas himself says something doesn't mean that it can't be overridden.  CC7567  (talk) 05:54, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * C-canon can't override G-canon. &mdash; Red XIV (talk) 04:15, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Regardless, if numerous of official sources claim she is 14-years old, then she is 14-years old.  JangFett  (Talk) 05:08, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Additionally, Lucas doesn't have to announce to all of his fans what information he approves Lucasfilm to publish.  Gethralkin  Hyperwave 23:27, March 22, 2010 (UTC)

I always believed Ahsoka to be 12 because in the article it says that she was granted padawan rank very early. Since the normal age is 14,I thought she'd be at least a year or two younger then that.-Ahsokafan95

Origin of her name
Her name is spelled exactly the same as Ashoka the Great of the mauryan dynasty in India. This makes me wonder if this couldn't be mentioned in the behind the scenes section as a possible source for her name. Ashoka means without sorrow according to wikipedia. I have no idea what tano might mean or be a reference to, but perhaps someone else does.

At any rate this page is locked to me, but maybe someone with a high enough ranking can edit this on my behalf. thanks.
 * Actually, her name is spelled Ahsoka Tano, not Ashoka. -  JMAS  Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 20:01, December 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * Dave Filoni confirmed in an interview on the forcecast that her name was inspired by the Indian emperor. 68.7.193.146 05:16, January 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * So, could you provide link to this ForceCast? ShaakTi1138 14:57, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Concept Ahsoka?
Anyone think that the concept sketch of Ahsoka included in the Season 1 disk set should be added to the article? 66.19.94.55 18:10, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, why not? If only you could add this picture... ShaakTi1138 22:02, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Personality and traits update
I seriously believe that the people on this site are not focusing enough on Ahsoka's good traits. Yes she can be aggressive and yes she can be overconfident but she's a good person. An example of that was when she blew up that factory on Geonosis when she seriously thought she would die. Plus she tried to save a couple of Twi'lek's she didn't even know by offering to trade herself for them. She was also very upset about her faliure on Ryloth and I'm ninety five percent certain it was because of her dead clones rather than the faliure itself. Also she didn't hesitate to tell the Jedi Council about her mistakes in the Battle of Felucia and she tried to pursuade Anakin not to open that Holocron in Cargo of Doom. The people on this site have put too much information into her bad traits and not enough into her good ones. I admit she's not perfect, personality wise, but she had just as many good traits as she does bad ones.--UnlimitedPower 18:35, February 5, 2010 (UTC) If nothings stopping me then why aren't my edits showing up? I'm just trying to improve the article.--UnlimitedPower 18:00, February 10, 2010 (UTC) Correct. I attempted to make a note under the part for "Lightsaber Lost" that Ahsoka had offered to trade herself to let the Twi'lek mother and child escape, but because I haven't done much, it blocked it. Think it should be mentioned because it also is mentioned in the Personality and Traits. Luke Danger 02:06, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, you can do it yourself! :) Xd1358 Talk 18:37, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep in mind, though, that phrases such as "good person" or anything that sounds viewer-poi will be considered OR/POV, which is discouraged on Wookieepedia.  JangFett  (Talk) 18:41, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that I can update the article because it seems to be locked to me. By the way that "good person" thing isn't just my point of veiw. Ahsoka does have good traits overall, not perfect but good enough to make her a good Jedi.--UnlimitedPower 18:48, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * You probably have to wait a few days before you can edit it, as it's semiprotected. You can't say that she's a good person if it's not stated in a source. Xd1358  Talk 18:51, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe not directly but I can imply it can't I?--UnlimitedPower 18:59, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think so, yes. Xd1358  Talk 18:57, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep in mind that you must source whatever you add. And, yes, you cannot directly say she's a good person without a proper source. Doing so would make it seem OR/POVish.  JangFett  (Talk) 19:00, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'm getting annoyed now. I've tried to improve Ahsoka's Personality and Traits an Powers and Abilities sections, and I've sourced my improvements as best I can to prove they're true, and Wookiepedia refuses to show my changes, even though I've proven they're true by sourcing them! What the hell is going on?! Why can't I just edit the article for goodness sake! Another thing; how do I add sources? It says in the Form IV: Ataru article that Ahsoka's a practitioner of Ataru and if you don't believe me look carefully at the Practitioners section (not the one in the infobox but the one about halfway down the page). I want to add her use of Ataru into the article but I'm worried it'll be taken off without a source to back it up. The source it was mentioned in was The Clone Wars: Wild Space but I don't know how to put that source into Ahsoka's article.--UnlimitedPower 22:53, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, that shouldn't be listed as a source, but rather an appearance. Wild Space has been listed since it came out last year. If you're referring to the information saying that Ahsoka studied Ataru, then you may add it under the "Powers and Abilities" section. Be bold. As for your edits not showing up, nothing is causing you not to make an edit.  JangFett  (Talk) 23:00, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * The article is currently under semi-protection, which means that you need to have enough edits on unblocked pages to make chages here. TheAinMAP 18:39, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, if an article is under semi-protection, a new registered user or anon IP cannot edit the article. So no matter what, their work will not be saved.  JangFett  (Talk) 19:16, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * How long do I have to wait before I can update the article? I really want to put more info into it. Will I be able to update it after a certain amount of time or a certain amount of edits, or do I have to rely on everyone else to update the article? I'm just trying to make the article better.--UnlimitedPower 23:06, February 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe you need to have made fifty edits to not get blocked by semi-protection. TheAinMAP 21:25, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Recent edits proper?
While browsing I Tahno today I saw a string of edits that appeared to be minor wording edits or expansions. They seemed questionable when compared to original text, and as I am not intimately familar with the subject material I wanted to raise the question in the talk page.--Renkar 01:40, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * You can correct them yourself if you're certain that it's proper. Be Bold.  JangFett  (Talk) 03:39, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Jedi Alliance events
So i recently got my hands of Jedi Alliance for DS. The events depicted in the game were most likely scripted before it was decided that the episode The new Padawan was to be made into the movie, because Ziro the hutt is still free.

Would it be proper to set these events between the Battle of Teth and Christophsis? --Tetsu Aero 20:29, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Proof
Ok I have indisputable proof that none of you idiotic bozos can argue with, no matter haw hard you try. In the New Essential guide to Characters Weapons and technology Vehicles and Vessels page 92 middle last scentance on Plo Koon it states and I quote "At the time of the Battle of Naboo, Koon was raising a female Trandoshan from Padawan learner to Jedi Knight." Now anyone can tell Ahsoka is not a Trandoshan and is not being trained by Koon as this clearly states but on the contrary is a Togruta with the wrong skin tone I might add and is being trained by Anakin who does not have an apprentice for he is being trained by Obi Wan. Along with this the Clone are wearing Phase I armor after Anakin became a Knight which is also wrong AND for the dyslexic people out there General Grievous has the wrong number of fingers that's right he only has four fingers in the show while he obviously has six in Ep. III. So congrats on being total idiots and for those of you wanting to argue with this, well screw you you can go watch your little incorrect clone wars and read your little books I'M going to go watch Ep. II some REAL Star Wars--Ultimate silver fan 23:10, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Graestan ( Talk ) 23:13, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Ahsoka's power of Force visions
Guys, i think we should put down in the powers and abilites section that Ahsoka was good at having Force visions. She seemed quite skilled in having Force visions in the Season Three preview.
 * I agree, but we have to wait for more detailed source. Remember to sign. ShaakTi1138 11:20, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Please wait until it's confirmed.  JangFett  (Talk) 14:28, May 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Guys, no offense, but the Season Three preview doesn't lie! Ahsoka wasn't having visions to tell what would happen in Season Three, she might be dreaming her death or something.
 * Yeah&hellip; that's pretty much pure speculation. --Imperialles 22:08, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ahsoka a slave?
Guys, why is it listed that Ahsoka was a slave? She never was a slave. This is complete garbage! Ahsoka was never a slave!
 * Actually, she was. See the Slaves of the Republic storyline for details, or just check out the "Slavers" section of her article. It's all there, and it's all legit. And remember to sign your talk page post with four tildes ( ~ ). Bella&#39;Mia 01:40, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

A better pic
 This DK calendar has a good pic of Ahsoka. Not TCW-style CGI, like every other. I think it should be added to the article, but I don't know where it would fit. Darth Morrt 19:02, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't really like the cropped version as the main image; I liked the original one better.--Joi Kai Jokes 02:03, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you mean with Anakin in it? We try to avoid having two characters in the main image if at all possible.-- Dr. Kermit ( Complain. ) 02:36, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * The infobox image is fine; no problems with it. Though, for me, I personally prefer a CGI image of Ahsoka for the infobox, but I see no problems with the non-CGI one.  JangFett  (Talk) 02:43, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * I do like the CGI pic better just because it has a plain background, which is generally preferable, though we could always take the new image and crop it onto a white background.--Joi Kai Jokes 16:25, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

a dumb pic
You guys are gullible! That Ahsoka pic doesn't even like a girl! It looks like discrimination and a drag Ahsoka. Change the picture please?
 * We tend to prefer more realistic depictions of characters to cartoons for infoboxes, if possible. Thefourdotelipsis 11:50, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's the first time I've seen that image, I like how they made them look more realistic, but it still gives you that clone wars vibe:) TK-299  (Click Here) Imperial_Emblem.svg 11:54, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * I would prefer one of these two pictures, on the left and right here.--Joi Kai Jokes 16:31, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * However, The current one is both more realistic and of a better quality. So thats the one that will stay.-- Dr. Kermit ( Complain. ) 19:44, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

In favour of removing the new pic and restoring the old
While I do understand the policy of using realistic pics for infoboxes, I cannot fully agree with the new pic.

First: Ahsoka Tano will always be remembered because of TCW series and I think that using some random realistic pic isn't entirely justified since everyone knows her in her cartoonish (cartoonesque?) depiction. Even the starwars databank uses a cartoonish Ahsoka.

Secondly: You also have to take into consideration the source for the new pic. The CGI Ahsoka is taken from a television series, that means that such a depiction is T-canon, second only to G-canon. The new realistic pic on the other hand is taken from a website, and not even from starwars.com or something like that, it's taken from dk.com. The question arises: is the dk.com website qualified to override T-canon? And I think the answer to that is obvious: absolutely not. Placing their depiction of Ahsoka in the infobox instead of her T-canon depiction is something I absolutely cannot agree with. If Dave Filoni himself would approve of the realistic picture, then it would be debatable which pic to put in the infobox. However as of now we don't even know if he or George Lucas or any other important star wars figures have even seen the realistic pic.

I'm not against puting a pic other than the CGI one in the infobox, but it would have to come from a T-canon or G-canon source. If Ahsoka ever does a cameo in the live action series (that would be awesome BTW), then maybe we can put that picture of her in the infobox, but definetely not this new pic. DarthCliche 01:52, June 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree that there should be a definite canon image for Ahsoka.66.103.119.237 17:43, June 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * I believe we should use a picture from the television series. That way we know it's a canon picture instead of some random picture taken from a random site. This new picture is just not right for the article. Bring back the old one for God's sake!--UnlimitedPower 11:49, June 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * I like one of the two above CGI images. She looks like an old man in the current one. Menkooroo 12:03, June 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, the new picture is not original so, why keep it? User:Vitor guerra

1. The new picture may be C-canon, but the CGI picture is T-canon and thus overrides C-canon. (This I consider the strongest point in favor of restoring the old image)
 * The new picture is not G-canon, but C-canon. It is licenced and so canon. Wookiee's Policy (and so most of the editors) prefers realistic pictures instead of cartoonish. That's why this new picture will remain as main pic. Darth Morrt 20:40, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm still not convinced.

2. As mentioned Star Wars databank and wikipedia both use CGI images for Ahsoka. Why is Wookiee being so original?

3. I agree with using a realistic image for a character like Anakin Skywalker and I wouldn't like it if his infobox contained him depicted in Animated Clone Wars fashion, but a character like Ahsoka Tano is most widely known for her appearance in The Clone Wars, so using some obscure image from some calendar hardly seems proper. DarthCliche 14:15, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * So just because Wikipedia uses a CGI image we should use as well? I agree with having a CGI, but I'd prefer a shot from an episode, like this. -- 1358  (Talk) 14:18, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * The fact that one image is C-canon and the other is T is mostly mooted by the fact that this is a realistic depiction, and the original image is a cartoon. That's basically the crux off the issue. In all our articles, we opt for the more realistic, or more illustrative image, regardless of canon status. Similarly, while we have G-canon images of helmeted characters such as Bly and Boussh, we opt towards unhelmeted images. This is the same principle at work&mdash;basically we have a standard, and since we have been provided with a realistic image of what Ahsoka would look like if she were portrayed in live action, we go with that. The added benefit is that the reader immediately learns something as soon as they open the page. "Oh... that's what she looks like." Instead of seeing the same image they would have seen everywhere else, ad nauseum. Thefourdotelipsis 14:22, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Is it an actual policy? Or is it something that should be put to a vote? Menkooroo 14:49, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, it's not a policy, more a trend. Thefourdotelipsis 15:00, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * First of all if making a "real" image of ahsoka was better than what she has only appeared in (CGI) then Wookieepedia would have done that with a lot of other charachters that only appeared in cartoon also. The image up now is actually a pretty ruddy drawing. It looks like one of those disney charachters that they put on ice the fasce looks way to human anyway so it looks like someone in a costume. Secondly Argueing how bad the image look is not really something TO ARGUE about because we all know what they say about opinions, but the comment "Oh thats what she looks like" is not a bad one considering there arent to many images like this one out there it is a good image to have on the article, its just that the image is a little misleading. I beleive George Lucas created the series to show a little bit more into star wars during the clone wars, and this was shown in CGI, so if we made a real image of everyone in the CGI clone wars then it really wouldnt be a series with CGI charachters and the soecial traits and cartoons aout those charachters, it would be a glob of uneeded images on an article this image should not be taken off the article but a new one should be put in the info box. So everyone can know what Ahsoka Tano REALLY looked like User:Magnaguardcommander June 6, 2010


 * In the design industry we call it "best practices." Cozmo 17:19, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Agree with you 100% Magnaguardcommander. This picture is definetely a good one to have in the article since it shows what would Ahsoka look like in a more realistic fashion, but the infobox should contain an image that depicts Ahsoka in a way Lucas wanted us to see her and in a way everyone expects Ahsoka to look like. DarthCliche 19:46, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * The CGI form isn't how Lucas wants us to see her, it's how he wants to present her to us. The picture is more realistic and quite frankly is much more flattering to the character. She looks more natural, even prettier, without the jagged, bony edges, and the bulbous eyes. Dr. Kermit ( Complain. ) 02:14, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, that's an opinion... and I disagree with it. Which is why I think we should put it to a vote. Menkooroo 04:51, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * So... let's vote. ShaakTi1138 07:38, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Votes Image 1
 * 1) ShaakTi1138 07:38, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Pic 2 is good, but Chris Trevas blew this out of the park. Bella&#39;Mia 07:50, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) Better image, Trevas is gold. - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 08:21, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) Realistic depiction > cartoon. Thefourdotelipsis 08:24, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) --Skippy Farlstendoiro 08:29, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) The CGI was the critics' common negative point. Give her the more realistic Trevas beaut.  NAYAYEN : TALK 08:49, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) Trevas == Gold. Grunny  ( talk ) 09:09, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Image 2
 * 1) Less wrinkly old man, more snarky young girl. Menkooroo 08:15, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Image 3