Talk:Skywalker family/Legends

Revan speculation
I didn't know that there were that many people in the skywalker family.

This- "It is speculated by some that Darth Revan may be a very distant ancestor of the Skywalker family." is complete and utter fan-wanking and should be removed. QuentinGeorge 06:24, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Removed. --Imperialles 09:28, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

CGI twins
Why the article CGI says that the Skywalker twins appear in Episode III as CGI??? Please see its talk page MoffRebus 23:28, 25 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Cade's ancestry
Just a note about Cade Skywalker: Randy Stradley mentions on the Dark Horse boards that nothing in the Legacy preview specifically says that Cade is descended from Ben, just Luke and Anakin. It's probably a good assumption, but it's not fact yet, I imagine because saying it for certain would fix Ben's fate. - Lord Hydronium 00:44, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't really go to blogs or spoiler threads, but most of the stuff I've heard is that they don't plan on Luke and Mara having anymore kids...at least not in the forseeable future. -- SFH 00:48, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Why did someone revert the page. There was nothing wrong with it before

Could Kol be Ben's son? At 40 ABY, Ben is only 13 and it has been shown that human's live quite a while in the GFFA. Stinkywookie 18:25, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Judging from how long the Dark Woman lived, he just might be. - Bub


 * It was NEVER stated that Kol was a descendent of Ben, only Luke. Also, it was stated by a prophetess that Luke would have children (plural).


 * No but lets face it, with Luke currently 60 years old, his wife has just died, .... he's not going to have any more kids.... wouldn't be the first time a prophecy was wrong (I point you to Anakin Solo, Tahiri and Ikrit) ... add this to Kol's red hair which was clearly a point towards Ben's red hair. .... Let's be reasonable here, its not hard to realise he's Ben's descendant... its really the only way he can be a descendant of Luke. Personally I don't think he'll be Ben's grandson not son. Jedi-Sith 02:15, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Leia's children
Should Han and Leia's Children really be discussed here? I think this page should just discuss Luke's descendants ::just as it only shows Luke's descendants:: All of Han's descendants should be discussed in House of Solo. I'll wait for a second.--69.251.69.156 19:46, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes they should. Don't just look at the family descent only from the father's side only. Cause even though the Solo kids are Han's children, one must not forget their descent from Anakin Skywalker through their mother Leia. Plus, it is from this family where they got their Force-sensitivity from, not from the Solo side. - Divinity 06:51, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

aden trackus/skywalker

 * why is aden trackus not on the family tree. check on supershadow.com and go to history of sith and jedi there it says "172,700 YA Aden Trackus goes into hiding, changes last name to Skywalker".
 * You should really read this article: Supershadow... Tellur 10:23, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Five generations?
Why so? - Sikon 18:29, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Some promotional text said something like "five generations after the rebellions defeat of the Death Star". This is obviously meant to say "a hundred years", with the old standard of one generation per twenty years. Not anything about the Skywalker lineage. Charlii 19:07, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * It's wrong regardless. If the promotional text says that it is "five generations since Yavin" and this *is* taken to literally mean that there have been five generations of Skywalkers since Yavin then it should be including Kol and Cade. Legacy begins when Kol and Cade are *alive* after all.


 * If it's "Since Yavin/destruction of the first Death Star", then Luke can't be the first of these generations, he is the generation of Yavin, and the promotional text talks of the generations since Yavin. Therefore it should work like this:


 * 1) Ben Skywalker
 * 2) Whoever Skywalker
 * 3) Unknown Skywalker
 * 4) Kol Skywalker
 * 5) Cade Skywalker

I think it would be much simpler just to put "generations", rather than giving specifics at this time. (Ulicus 23:50, 13 September 2006 (UTC))
 * Ok, I'm removing the "Five generations" bit from the article, since it implies that there are *five different Skywalkers* between Ben and Kol. This *cannot* be the case unless they're having kids in their early-mid teens. As Charlii already touched upon, the promotional material isn't meant to be implying five generations of Skywalkers, it is supposed to be implying 25x5 = around 125 years, which is near as dammit to 130 ABY, which is when Legacy kicks off. Just like the with the Republic, where "1000 generations" = "25,000" years. (Ulicus 12:14, 14 September 2006 (UTC))
 * Haha, whaddya know! Someone already did it whilst I was typing. Good job. Still, I'm going to make it "Unknown Generation/s", since it's just as possible that there's only one Skywalker separating Ben and Kol. (I think it's pretty unlikely that Kol is Ben's son...) (Ulicus 12:19, 14 September 2006 (UTC))

This it could be the true father of Anakin Skywalker… your name is Lodon Skywalker
Acordin´my investigations of the Internet, the Anakin´s father is Lodon Skywalker, hes lived 27,000,000 ABY, this is ture of false? User_talk:Starkiller1996
 * False. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 01:22, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Conceived via the force?
Is it so that Anakin is created by the force? for i don't know. But if it is so then improve it, so i know if it's right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darth_Plagueis

Origin of Anakin Skywalker In Joseph Campbell's book The Hero with a Thousand Faces there is an entire chapter on virgin birth as an aspect of heroic mythology. Campbell considered Star Wars creator George Lucas "one of his best students" and Lucas himself has often acknowledged Campbell's importance as one of many inspirations for Star Wars. In the book, the virgin birth is a means of separating the heroic figure from the rest of humanity, marking them as special and isolated from the moment of conception.

As revealed in Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace, Anakin Skywalker has no biological father. Qui-Gon Jinn later theorizes that Anakin was conceived by the midi-chlorians themselves, in accord with the will of the Force. It is suggested in Vader: The Ultimate Guide that Plagueis created Anakin Skywalker in his mother's womb. According to Star Wars: The New Essential Chronology, Darth Plagueis indeed knew how to create life, and may have sought to create a replacement for his apprentice, Darth Sidious.

In the June 2, 2005 issue of Rolling Stone, Lucas stated that both Plagueis' and Sidious' possible role in Anakin's conception is intentionally left ambiguous.

well based on what shmi said this would technically make Anakin Jesus 69.86.52.140 23:02, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Owen/Beru Lars
In the Star Wars Trilogy (#2), it goes into the details of how Anakin is related to Owen and Beru, through his mother marrying Owens dad, thus making them step-brothers. This would surely show Luke as their nephew.

However...if you read Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (I know there are at least two different books that may say very different things, with the same title (the original trilogy has been rewritten horribly to make more connections between the original trilogy and the prequel, which was not how it should have been done), only pay attention to the original book)...it says that Owen is Obi-Wans brother in his long speech at the end, the scene after Yoda has died and Luke is about to head back to the Rebellion before the final battle. This would better ensure Luke being hidden from Palpatine, Vader and the Empire.

My question falls into -- why would Lucas make such a huge error with that supposedly "small" issue..? It throws off the family lines, and does not provide continuity between the original trilogy and the preguel trilogy.

Re-writing, or having someone else re-write the original trilogy only makes it worse. I started reading the re-write and put it down after a chapter. It was written horribly and was also written with something else in mind...
 * Sign your comment. I know, I forget too.
 * Well, First of all, if Owen was Obi's brother, then he wouldn't really be Luke's Uncle. Of course, many people have family friends who they call "Uncle" who aren't really, but to use the original ROTJ stuff would just confuse people that don't bother reading books base on movies.

Second, If you think that it makes more sense that Owen is Obi's brother, and that hiding him with him on an out of the way planet makes more sense than hiding Luke (without changing his last name) on the very planet that Vader grew up on, with Vader's Own step brother,....well your probably right. The only logical explanation is that Obi figured that since Vader hated Tatooine so much, that is the one planet in the Galaxy he would be least likely to go. I think that makes since, but why he didn't change his Last name, and put him with people unrelated to Vader, I know not.

As far as your problems with rewrites....This is the star wars universe, and retcons are as plentiful, and as necessary as changes of underwear. IthinkIwannaLeia 04:57, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Scourcing
I added some stuff to the end of the article about what makes this family unique. I will source it soon but I have to go now. I am not very good at sourcing, so if someone wants to do some of it before I get to it, have at it. IthinkIwannaLeia 21:13, 14 December 2007 (UTC)


 * The sourcing is done to the best of my ability. IthinkIwannaLeia 04:46, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Nat Skywalker
Since we know Kol's brother Nat is still alive, doesn't that mean Cade is not the last surviving Skywalker? Darth Anakin 20:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure seems like it. —Xwing328 (Talk) 03:07, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Gallery
Is the image gallery for the Skywalkers really necessary?--Jedi Kasra 01:16, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Possibly not, though I saw it in other family pages so thought it was a nice idea to put in this oneJedi-Sith 14:17, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Morrigan / Nyna
I think we should have the name Morrigan put on this page, since that is the name the family knows her by, not Nyna. And before people go and argue that its not her real name, thats actually incorrect, we don't know which is her real name at this point in time. Jedi-Sith 05:25, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If no one has any objection to this, I'm going to change it back to Corde Jedi-Sith 05:55, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Didn't Nyna/Morrigan have kids with some other guy? Should we put a thing that links her to the "Yage Family" or something? Since technically, her other kid is like, the step-brother/sister. --The Wolfe22 01:53, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The step-bro/sis of CADE, I mean.
 * Yes, I think it should be there in some way. I made a temporary solution for evaluation. Charlii 10:38, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The latest issue of Legacy shows that Kol was aware of Nyna/Morrigan's dual identity. &mdash; Red XIV (talk) 19:34, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Cade is Luke's great-grandson?
According to this image:



Cade Skywalker is Luke's great grandson. However, the image is from a non-canon comic. Could some elements of the commercial be considered canon even though the plot isn't? Nanook 23:17, 23 August 2008 (UTC)c
 * No, if it's non-canon, then it's non-canon. And, correct me if I'm wrong, couldn't "great-grandson" be used as a short for a more distant relation? Charlii 11:35, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The ad itself is non-canon; however, the info in it isn't necessarily non-canon. And I've never seen "great-grandson" referring to anyone other than a great-grandson. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 12:55, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * But ads do not necessarily pass through Leland for continuity-checking, so how do we know if this sentence did? Unless we get confirmation from him that it did so, we cannot count it as canon. Charlii 13:07, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Given that that sentence was specifically changed for the Kotor Campaign Guide, and that it was made by Dark Horse, I think it's safe to presume that Cade is canonically Luke's grandson. But, until we get confirmation from John/Jan/Leland, it should stay in the BtS sections of the relevant articles. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 13:59, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Malinza Thanas adopted by Luke Skywalker?
I have a request. I think we have to take Malinza into the Skywalker family because in the Captison family tree it is shown that Malinza was adopted by Luke Skywalker.Sabe Ankaya 16:34, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * If I recall correctly the mention of Malinza during the NJO books said that Luke and Mara sponsored her education. I'm not certain that would be considered the same as adoption. Vryce 23:15, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Box removed
Can somebody tell me please why somebody removed the box???Sabe Ankaya 14:20, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Infoboxes are tricky when you have family trees or similar formated things, since they might overlap and cover each other in low resolutions. I suspect that was the reason. Charlii 15:02, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Knight/Padawan
Regarding the line "As a Jedi Knight, Anakin married Padmé Amidala in 22 BBY"; wasn't Anakin still a padawan when he married Padme at the end of Attack Of The Clones? --Secretss 15:49, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I've changed it. I don't think there's going to be any evidence to prove me wrong anyway. Anakin didn't become a Knight until the Star Wars Clone Wars 2D 2003 TV animated series, which is after AOTC, which is when he married Padme.--Secretss 16:52, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Shmi Founder?

 * The infobox states that Shmi was the founder of the Skywalker family. While she's the first known member, that doesn't really count as being the founder does it? 02:46, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't think it does. What about he father? He was a Skywalker. Apotheoses Jedi 24:21, 29 April 2009 (UTC-6)


 * *Slaps you.* Remember, in Episode I, Shmi said "There is no father" to Qui-Gon.&mdash;B-Boba Fett! He'll kill us all!  Jaster's Feather.svg 22:30, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * facepalm* Anakin didn't have a father. Shmi did have one. &mdash; Red XIV (talk) 19:31, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Solo children
Shouldn't Jaina, Jacen, Anakin, and Allana be added to the page instead (see house of Solo) because even though they don't have the last name they are bilogically skywalkers. And they should also be added to the notable memebers part in the info box because they were hunted for there strong connection to the force when they were young for being Anakin's grandchildren.

The dark side
The article says "every member of the Skywalker family fell to or struggled with the dark side". That doesn't seem accurate to me. While "many" or even "most" would be reasonable, I don't recall any indication, for example, that Kol ever had a brush with the dark side. &mdash; Red XIV (talk) 19:37, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Leias name
Why Leia is named Amidala Skywalker in this article? She never bears even one of these names and if you meant this are the names of her parents, you might have give Luke this two names too. 91.34.243.175 12:32, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * She was actually born with that name, but someone (the Jedi or Organa) changed her name in order to keep her safe from Vader. Xd  14:09, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * If you think so, you should add this information by Luke Amidala Skywalker too... 91.34.222.134 18:51, February 23, 2010 (UTC)