Wookieepedia:AC/Log/2014 February 22

[23:09:21]  Go Go Go [23:09:22]  Beginning with previously probed articles. [23:09:27]  http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Combined_Clans_Center_Building [23:09:30]  http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Combined_Clans_Center_Building_(second_review) [23:09:33]  http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=4746611 [23:09:52]  Floyd did stuff? [23:10:02]  some cool stuff [23:10:03]  I did stuff [23:10:06]  keep [23:10:17]  Keep [23:10:17]  Keep [23:10:21]  Keep [23:10:27]  Grunny and CC say keep [23:10:33]  Combined Clans Center Building kept [23:10:39]  keep [23:10:48]  Next article was extended from Meeting 64. [23:10:53] <Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Unidentified_Human_female_Jedi [23:10:56] <Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Unidentified_Human_female_Jedi [23:11:01] <Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=4730225 [23:11:14] <WookieeWinterz> issues addressed [23:11:17] <WookieeWinterz> keep [23:11:30] <CavalierOne> Keep [23:11:34] <MasterFred> Keep [23:11:47] <Toprawa> Keep [23:11:47] <IFYLOFD> Keep [23:11:56] <Toprawa> Unidentified Human female Jedi kept. [23:12:00] <Toprawa> On to new articles. [23:12:05] <Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chief_gunnery_officer [23:12:11] <Toprawa> Chief gunnery officer — Update needed. [23:12:13] <Toprawa>    Done. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 00:36, February 12, 2014 (UTC) [23:12:44] <Toprawa> I kind of helped him research that stuff. [23:12:48] <Toprawa> So I trust that end of it. :P [23:12:57] <MasterFred> hahaha [23:13:02] <IFYLOFD> Keep [23:13:09] <CavalierOne> Keep [23:13:15] <MasterFred> I say keep [23:13:22] <Toprawa> Keep [23:13:23] <MasterFred> Mustn't lose the movie articles! [23:13:48] <Toprawa> Absentees voted probe, but I'm not sure why [23:13:53] <Toprawa> Hanzo fixed this 10 days ago [23:14:24] <Toprawa> Winterz? [23:14:34] <WookieeWinterz> keep [23:14:52] <Toprawa> Chief gunnery officer kept [23:14:57] <Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kodashi_viper [23:15:03] <Toprawa> Kodashi viper — Update needed. [23:15:05] <Toprawa>    Done. IFYLOFD (Enter the Floydome) 04:03, February 14, 2014 (UTC) [23:15:14] <MasterFred> I don't trust Floyd. Probe. [23:15:22] <WookieeWinterz> omg per Ferd [23:15:25] <MasterFred> :P [23:15:27] <MasterFred> keep [23:15:28] <WookieeWinterz> stole my thoughts [23:15:31] <Toprawa> Keep [23:15:33] <CavalierOne> Keep [23:15:34] <WookieeWinterz> keep [23:15:36] <IFYLOFD> Douche [23:15:37] <IFYLOFD> Keep [23:15:42] <MasterFred> <3 [23:15:43] <Toprawa> Kodashi viper kept [23:15:51] <IFYLOFD> I had to search through the whole damn Book of Sith for that shit [23:15:51] <Toprawa> or spared, rather [23:15:59] <Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Karnak_Tetsu [23:16:00] <WookieeWinterz> wutevah [23:16:03] <Toprawa> Karnak Tetsu — Update needed. [23:16:05] <Toprawa>    Done. IFYLOFD (Enter the Floydome) 04:17, February 14, 2014 (UTC) [23:16:11] <IFYLOFD> Yeah go Floyd [23:16:14] <IFYLOFD> Keep [23:16:17] <MasterFred> Keep [23:16:26] <WookieeWinterz> keep [23:16:29] <CavalierOne> Spare [23:16:38] <Toprawa> Wait. [23:16:39] <WookieeWinterz> yeah dat [23:16:41] <Toprawa> His alternative name is not mentioned in the body [23:16:50] <Toprawa> "Karnak Tetsu, also known as Karnak the Maleficent" [23:16:57] <MasterFred> Ah [23:17:03] <CavalierOne> Fail [23:17:03] <MasterFred> this is a fact [23:17:07] <WookieeWinterz> good point [23:17:14] <MasterFred> This is why I don't trust Floyd :3 [23:17:15] <WookieeWinterz> someone wants to handle it? [23:17:16] <IFYLOFD> Don't blame me, I just updated it [23:17:56] <Toprawa> Are you able to handle it, Floyd? [23:18:01] <MasterFred> Already done. [23:18:15] <IFYLOFD> ...DON'T NEED TO [23:18:19] <Toprawa> But does the source work for that? [23:18:28] <MasterFred> fffffffffffff [23:18:39] <IFYLOFD> Looking up the source now [23:18:39] <WookieeWinterz> noob Fred [23:18:50] <MasterFred> I tried. :/ [23:19:06] <WookieeWinterz> try you must not [23:19:16] <MasterFred> shush you [23:19:30] <IFYLOFD> Not seeing that name in there [23:19:38] <WookieeWinterz> hmm [23:19:41] <WookieeWinterz> wanna probe? [23:20:00] <CavalierOne> The maleficent? [23:20:03] <IFYLOFD> Wait [23:20:12] <IFYLOFD> Maleficent is in the SW Blog article [23:20:17] <MasterFred> got it [23:20:20] <CavalierOne> Indeed [23:20:32] <WookieeWinterz> alrighty, spare [23:20:43] <IFYLOFD> Fixed [23:20:46] <Toprawa> Spare [23:21:04] <MasterFred> well [23:21:08] <MasterFred> spare [23:21:38] <IFYLOFD> Spare [23:21:39] <Toprawa> Karnak Tetsu spared [23:21:47] <Toprawa> I'm assuming your original votes hold [23:21:53] <IFYLOFD> yep [23:21:54] <Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hiridiu_crystal [23:21:56] <Toprawa> Update needed [23:21:59] <WookieeWinterz> probe its gut [23:22:09] <Toprawa> Probe [23:22:11] <IFYLOFD> IT'S PROBIN' TIME [23:22:23] <MasterFred> preaub [23:22:34] <WookieeWinterz> relax, Flo, there's still your Trailian [23:22:48] <IFYLOFD> Don't call me Flo [23:22:52] *** WookieeWinterz was kicked by IFYLOFD (WookieeWinterz) [23:22:53] <MasterFred> XD [23:22:57] *** Joins: WookieeWinterz (redacted@wookieepedia/Winterz) [23:22:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o WookieeWinterz [23:22:58] <Toprawa> CC says spare, but I don't know why. [23:22:58] <MasterFred> lolflo [23:23:00] <WookieeWinterz> lolo [23:23:02] <Toprawa> He didn't elaborate. [23:23:11] <CavalierOne> Probe [23:23:14] <Toprawa> He would know about this Clone Wars game, but without elaboration, I don't know what to say [23:23:26] <Toprawa> Grunny says probe [23:23:30] <Toprawa> Hiridiu crystal probed [23:23:31] <IFYLOFD> Probe first, ask questions later [23:23:32] <CavalierOne> Might just be a mention withour context [23:23:36] <IFYLOFD> The AC Slogan [23:23:44] <Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Trailian [23:23:50] <Toprawa> Trailian — Update needed. [23:23:51] <Toprawa>    Updated. IFYLOFD (Enter the Floydome) 04:36, February 14, 2014 (UTC) [23:24:03] <IFYLOFD> I updated the hell outta that one [23:24:11] <Toprawa> Spare [23:24:17] <IFYLOFD> Spare [23:24:19] <MasterFred> Spare [23:24:24] <CavalierOne> Spare [23:24:35] <WookieeWinterz> Spare [23:24:41] <Toprawa> Trailian spared [23:24:47] <Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/NT-311 [23:24:52] <Toprawa> NT-311 — Add a behind the scenes note talking about Leland's Facebook confirmation of him being on the Tantive IV. Just putting it here as some self-motivation. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 21:05, February 11, 2014 (UTC) [23:24:54] <Toprawa>    And taken care of. Unfortunately that link is no longer existent. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 00:36, February 12, 2014 (UTC) [23:25:20] <Toprawa> Lesson here is to use the "quote" field when citing things like this from FB, etc. [23:25:32] <Toprawa> That way we can still see whatever line is being referenced after they take the post down [23:25:52] <Toprawa> He should use the FB citation template, though [23:26:04] <Toprawa> But anyways, spare, I guess [23:26:38] <MasterFred> Yeah, I guess it's not a huge deal. [23:26:41] <IFYLOFD> Spare [23:26:52] <MasterFred> spare [23:26:55] <WookieeWinterz> spare [23:27:07] <CavalierOne> Spare [23:27:11] <Toprawa> NT-311 spared [23:27:19] <Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Aaron [23:27:22] <Toprawa> Aaron — At the very least, a BTS update is needed, as explained here. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:48, February 14, 2014 (UTC) [23:27:27] <Toprawa> here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Aaron [23:27:32] <Toprawa> Long story short: [23:27:40] <Toprawa> "Aaron" is apparently a fanon name that got canonized [23:27:50] <Toprawa> We informed Jason Fry of this matter [23:27:55] <Toprawa> He said he'd look at it or some such [23:28:28] <MasterFred> So, are we waiting on him, or can it be done right now? [23:28:36] <Toprawa> Well, the BTS update can be done now [23:28:48] <Toprawa> Fry could potentially fix this by updating the Atlas online pdf file [23:28:55] <MasterFred> ah [23:28:56] <Toprawa> But until that happens, all we can do is note this in the BTS [23:29:23] <MasterFred> hmmmmm [23:29:26] <MasterFred> ok [23:29:26] <WookieeWinterz> so once the Bts is done, what should we do? Probe and hope Fry addresses it fast? [23:29:46] <MasterFred> Well, once it's updated there won't be anything wrong. [23:29:47] <Toprawa> In the event the BTS is updated, the article can be kept [23:29:48] <CavalierOne> Spare until a fix is made [23:29:54] <CavalierOne> Or even /if/ a fix is made [23:29:58] <WookieeWinterz> okay [23:30:01] <WookieeWinterz> spare [23:30:09] <CavalierOne> Since Aaron is currently canonical, even if it is a mistake [23:30:09] <IFYLOFD> OK, spare then [23:30:16] <Toprawa> We shouldn't spare this now, though [23:30:22] <Toprawa> the BTS needs to be updated one way or another [23:30:24] <MasterFred> Yeah, there is still an update. [23:30:26] <Toprawa> regardless of what Fry does [23:30:35] <WookieeWinterz> I thought Ferd had done that now [23:30:39] <Toprawa> If Fry makes a change, then a further update will be needed [23:30:39] <MasterFred> ... [23:30:40] <MasterFred> pls [23:30:59] <MasterFred> I don't really know the situation atm. [23:31:02] <IFYLOFD> Probe then [23:31:05] <CavalierOne> Agreed. I thought the BTS was being done anyway [23:31:07] <MasterFred> Don't know exactly what to say. [23:31:13] <WookieeWinterz> probe [23:31:19] <Toprawa> This article is pretty much unmonitored right now [23:31:22] <CavalierOne> Is someone going to do the BTS now-ish? [23:31:23] <Toprawa> It was Eyrezer's article [23:31:26] <Toprawa> He's left, basically [23:31:37] <Toprawa> I'm not [23:31:43] <Toprawa> I don't really think it's a simple update, either [23:31:50] <MasterFred> I'm not really sure how to update, so no. [23:31:51] <Toprawa> Someone should check to make sure the name "Aaron" isn't, in fact, in the game [23:32:00] <Toprawa> I'm not 100% sure of that, though it seems obvious that it's not [23:32:17] <WookieeWinterz> this videogame I know not [23:32:22] <Toprawa> Apparently, checking this is very difficult, because the only place it would be mentioned is in the end credits [23:32:26] <Toprawa> But the game is difficult as all hell [23:32:39] <MasterFred> joy -_- [23:32:39] <WookieeWinterz> well there's likely some clips around [23:32:44] <Toprawa> There are no clips [23:32:46] <Toprawa> We've checked [23:32:49] <WookieeWinterz> :c [23:32:51] <MasterFred> Figures. [23:32:58] <WookieeWinterz> well then probe and we'll murder it next month [23:33:14] <CavalierOne> ^^ [23:33:33] <Toprawa> Probe [23:33:42] <MasterFred> Yeah, not sure how to handle it, so probe and we'll see what happens. Hopefully Fry will answer and all will be well. [23:33:44] <CavalierOne> Probe [23:34:03] <IFYLOFD> Probe [23:34:17] <Toprawa> Aaron probed [23:34:24] <Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Savuud_Thimram [23:34:28] <Toprawa> Savuud Thimram from the Old GAs. Apparently, there were some unspecified concerns? Winterz (talk) 21:57, February 16, 2014 (UTC) [23:34:39] <WookieeWinterz> yeah about that, no reason was given [23:34:46] <Toprawa> Uh, I added that [23:34:48] <Toprawa> Let me try and remember why. [23:35:46] <Toprawa> I really don't even remember [23:35:53] <Toprawa> That might have been part of our clothes debate [23:36:09] <WookieeWinterz> wait [23:36:20] <WookieeWinterz> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Savuud_Thimram&diff=4538357&oldid=2596201 [23:37:22] <Toprawa> Well, "Dark Empire" is not mentioned in the body [23:37:28] <Toprawa> While it is listed in the infobox [23:37:32] <Toprawa> We could mark it for that [23:37:38] <Toprawa> And general cleanup [23:37:41] <Toprawa> like reloading the infobox [23:37:44] <WookieeWinterz> yeah [23:37:59] <MasterFred> Yeah, and links to redirects. Ew. [23:38:02] <CavalierOne> Probinator! [23:38:06] <Toprawa> Probe [23:38:10] <MasterFred> Probe. [23:38:11] <WookieeWinterz> probation [23:38:18] <IFYLOFD> probe [23:38:26] <Toprawa> Savuud Thimram probed [23:38:31] <Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Pui-ui [23:38:36] <Toprawa> Pui-ui — This article's reference formatting is not an acceptable practice, and all CSWE citations must specify volume, subject name, and pages. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:29, February 21, 2014 (UTC) [23:38:55] <Toprawa> Eyrezer and Skippy went through this phase where they started lumping multiple sources into single reference notes [23:38:59] <Toprawa> We told them that was a no-no [23:39:22] <MasterFred> Probe. [23:39:30] <CavalierOne> Probe [23:39:30] <Toprawa> That whole referencing section needs to be cleaned up [23:39:35] <Toprawa> Probe [23:39:54] <IFYLOFD> Probe [23:40:52] <WookieeWinterz> probe [23:40:58] <Toprawa> Pui-ui probed [23:40:59] <WookieeWinterz> damn it Wikia's screwing around [23:41:03] <Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Todd [23:41:07] <Toprawa> Todd — Infobox-exclusive info Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:47, February 21, 2014 (UTC) [23:41:08] <IFYLOFD> TODD [23:41:16] <IFYLOFD> I fixed this like half an hour before the meeting [23:41:25] <Toprawa> heh [23:41:30] <WookieeWinterz> Floyd fixed it but I can't seem to see his additions because of some Wikia error [23:41:36] <Toprawa> TODD is the cousin of GREGG [23:42:02] <IFYLOFD> Todd and Gregg, at it again [23:42:18] <Toprawa> Spare [23:42:22] <CavalierOne> Spare [23:42:27] <WookieeWinterz> spare [23:42:42] <MasterFred> spare [23:43:12] <IFYLOFD> Spare [23:43:13] <Toprawa> We need you to say "spare" for the record, Floyd :P [23:43:15] <Toprawa> Thanks :P [23:43:19] <Toprawa> Todd spared [23:43:23] <Toprawa> To the maintenance bin. [23:43:43] <Toprawa> Bric is listed, but it's new TCW S6 stuff [23:43:46] <Toprawa> So not a month old yet [23:44:01] <Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jilruan [23:44:05] <Toprawa> This might not be a month either [23:44:33] <Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jilruan?diff=4771887&oldid=4489701 [23:44:41] <Toprawa> It's not [23:44:55] <Toprawa> That's it [23:45:03] <MasterFred> Well then... [23:45:03] <Toprawa> Winterz had some stuff for us, I believe. [23:45:19] <WookieeWinterz> well apparently all the updates have been handled [23:45:27] <WookieeWinterz> so nah leave it [23:45:29] <Toprawa> Ok [23:45:34] <Toprawa> Anything from anyone else? [23:45:43] <WookieeWinterz> well the discussion items [23:45:45] <MasterFred> We gonna talk about using the ToC on the GA page? [23:45:48] <Toprawa> Other articles, I mean? [23:45:51] <MasterFred> oh [23:45:52] <MasterFred> sorry [23:45:54] <MasterFred> got ahead [23:46:07] <Toprawa> If not, moving on to discussion topics. [23:46:13] <Toprawa> As discussed here, a Table of Contents would be desirable for the pages that list all the GA, CA, and FA. The style of TOC's has been settled upon as seen in this prototype page. It's been months in the making. Can we finally get this implemented?--Richterbelmont10 (come in R2!) 05:44, February 10, 2014 (UTC) [23:46:15] <Toprawa>    Just noting for further reference that we've decided the format in Meeting 61. Winterz (talk) 10:44, February 18, 2014 (UTC) [23:46:22] <Toprawa> Someone needs to actually implement it. [23:46:26] <Toprawa> I don't know how to do that. [23:46:52] <MasterFred> I like the idea, so if someone can add it, awesome. [23:46:56] <Toprawa> Maybe Cade can demonstrate his fealty to us by doing it for us. :P [23:47:01] <MasterFred> I hate scrolling through the status article pages. :P [23:47:06] <MasterFred> ^ [23:47:21] <WookieeWinterz> ^ [23:47:22] <CavalierOne> Its not that hard. I could probably do it. [23:47:28] <Toprawa> Cool [23:47:40] <MasterFred> When could ya get to it? [23:47:54] <CavalierOne> Tomorrow latest, assuming Wikia decides to work. [23:47:56] <MasterFred> Also, if it hasn't been done yet, I'd like to notify Cade and EJ. [23:48:05] <Toprawa> Go for it. [23:48:12] <MasterFred> ight [23:48:21] <Toprawa> Ok, someone will ideally add the ToC. [23:48:24] <Toprawa> I have proposals for a change in a certain procedure. And to formalize another. Winterz (talk) 10:32, February 18, 2014 (UTC) [23:49:05] <WookieeWinterz> aight [23:49:33] <WookieeWinterz> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/AC_Bylaws [23:49:56] <WookieeWinterz> the first procedure [23:50:20] <WookieeWinterz> may I ask what is its current utility? [23:50:51] <Toprawa> We're supposed to remove things from meeting agendas that have been handled. [23:51:08] <Toprawa> We don't use it as much because a) we're lazy, and b) it's not a huge problem, since AC meeting agendas are always very light [23:51:17] <Toprawa> This was more of an issue when the AC first started [23:51:18] <WookieeWinterz> yeah but normally if it's added by mistake it can just be scratched without any formal votes [23:51:22] <Toprawa> When we were going through the entire GA page [23:51:47] <WookieeWinterz> and as for scratching addressed items, we rather speak of them during the meetings [23:51:57] <WookieeWinterz> so it has lost all its necessity [23:52:07] <WookieeWinterz> the procedure that is [23:52:26] <MasterFred> So, you are proposing we just remove it? [23:52:37] <WookieeWinterz> yes. [23:52:47] <Toprawa> I don't think it needs to be removed, but if you guys want to remove it, I won't argue. [23:52:52] <WookieeWinterz> as it currently stands, it only stands in our way [23:52:56] <Toprawa> The fact that it's there means it can be used if we need it. [23:53:06] <Toprawa> We don't /have/ to look at articles strictly during the confines of a meeting. [23:53:17] <IFYLOFD> Yeah, I agree with Tope here [23:53:24] <MasterFred> I'm indifferent. [23:53:26] <IFYLOFD> It's better to at least have the option, even if we don't use it [23:53:41] <Toprawa> It's not impeding anything at the moment [23:53:47] <Toprawa> It's just a rarely-used option [23:54:02] <WookieeWinterz> but if we have it as a procedure and don't use it, isn't that harming our own reputation in a way? [23:54:20] <MasterFred> I don't see how that would be the case. [23:54:23] <Toprawa> I don't either [23:54:27] <MasterFred> No one knows what goes on in here. :3 [23:54:36] <Toprawa> lolz [23:54:38] <MasterFred> "secret cabal channel" [23:55:02] <Toprawa> Like I said, this was something created when our meetings used to last 2 hours. [23:55:08] <WookieeWinterz> well then if you don't agree [23:55:09] <Toprawa> So we felt the pressure to remove as many things as we could beforehand [23:55:11] <WookieeWinterz> spare then [23:55:24] <MasterFred> So glad that was before my days in the AC. :P [23:55:41] <MasterFred> There's always the potential it could come in handy when we have to update for the new canon and movies. [23:56:03] <WookieeWinterz> one more thing [23:57:22] <WookieeWinterz> regarding our "last-acvote-must-archive" [23:57:42] <WookieeWinterz> I suggest we formalize it as one of the procedures [23:57:53] <Toprawa> Good idea. [23:58:02] <Toprawa> I can add it after the meeting. [23:58:08] <MasterFred> Yeah, it'll help force me to get my butt in gear. :P [23:58:25] <WookieeWinterz> as it currently stands, it's just one idea that was talked during meeting 58 and it's not even mentioned in the meeting issues [23:58:36] <Toprawa> Yeah, that's something that should be listed [23:58:40] <MasterFred> Yeah, I support. [23:59:05] <WookieeWinterz> here's for reference Tope http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Log/2013_May_25 [23:59:22] <Toprawa> ok [23:59:26] <WookieeWinterz> well then that's all from me [23:59:28] <MasterFred> Floyd? Cav? [23:59:35] <MasterFred> u guise der? [23:59:46] <Toprawa> ecks supports :P [23:59:53] <IFYLOFD> We good [23:59:59] <CavalierOne> aYE [00:00:03] <Toprawa> Motion passed. [00:00:03] <CavalierOne> Aye [00:00:07] <MasterFred> :D [00:00:08] <Toprawa> Any final discussion items? [00:00:25] <Toprawa> Grunny is on paperwork. [00:00:30] <Toprawa> Cav schedules Meeting 66. [00:00:33] <WookieeWinterz> lolo [00:00:37] <Toprawa> Meeting adjourned; thanks for coming, everyone.