User talk:Toprawa and Ralltiir

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My deepest Apologizes
I do apologize, and you're right about my statements being out-of-place. It was a bit ranting, I might add, and for that I am genuinely sorry. I've just been to many wiki's where there are many admins that find no sensibility, and I mistakenly assumed that Wookieepedia had fallen to the same. That being said, I too of all people should've looked at your rules closer (the Jurassic Park wiki isn't quite as large, so we don't have as many protocols there). Next time I'll pay more attention to your policies. Thanks for the reassurance. --John Alfred Hammond, CEO (talk) 14:20, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

FA/GA/CA Main Page randomizers
I've noticed over the years that Featured articles/Random and its cousins can cause small headaches to maintain because they do not show up on "what links here", meaning that when a status article gets moved, the randomizer is often left with a redirect link, a redlink (if the redirect is deleted), or even a link to an entirely different article (if that article is moved over top of the redirect). It also means that review panel members have to manage two separate lists of articles. I recently discovered that the Lua extension can actually fetch the wikitext of another page and perform string operations on that wikitext. With that in mind, I wrote a Lua module to replace the randomizers tonight. You can see it at w:c:masterjonathan:Module:Test. The module directly fetches the appropriate page (Featured articles, etc.) and parses it for links, retaining any italics or quotes surrounding the link, then selects one of those links at random and returns that link for display.

Two changes would be needed to WP:FA and its cousins: first,  and   comments would be added to the top and bottom of the list, respectively, to tell the module what portion of the page to parse; and second, a template would be created for linking to pages that should not show up in the randomizers (e.g. the year articles linked under "events" and anything that hasn't been featured on the Main Page yet). This template would be as simple as, which would be a direct replacement for  , and could be easily converted to a regular link once that article has been featured on the Main Page. Using the template would prevent the module from recognizing the link, since it searches for the  syntax. Is this something the review panels would be interested in?
 * Possibly, to answer your question. I don't think it's fair that I just say yes or no on my own. It's something we would have to discuss, so probably something best left for our next meetings. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:30, January 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * I figured you would want to discuss it at the meetings, so that's fair. I was mainly just looking for a general feeling right now, not a final approval. I do pay attention to the meeting pages and logs, so I'll check those out when available. Depending on the dates, I might be able to attend the meetings to answer any questions, but I can't guarantee that at the moment. &mdash;MJ&mdash; Holocomm 21:43, January 30, 2015 (UTC)

AC Meeting 76
AC Meeting 76 has been scheduled for February 21st at 4:00 PM ET. Please leave notes if you are unable to attend.-- Exiled Jedi   (Greetings)  23:34, February 13, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Vandalism advice
Roger that. I usually don't have the need to do those things, since you admins are always quick to notice such problems. ;-) But it seems that one was very persistent. --LelalMekha (talk) 00:12, March 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:20, March 7, 2015 (UTC)

Felicity Jones
I created the Felicity Jones page and I'm pretty new to editing this site. It's been fun looking at the page keep changing. There was a message mentioning to add an image. I did just that from the official one on the site. I just edited it down on Photoshop. Why did you remove it?

17 conjecture removal
Hi Tope, just wondering why you removed the conjecture tag from the 17 article? You said in the summary "An article title isn't conjectural if a source calls a subject by that name. In this case, 17 is his official designation." However he is never referred to in-game at all, and the 17 title comes from the subtitles in which he is given "Trooper 17". The other trooper, named in-game as Three-Five, has "Trooper 35" in the subtitles. I'm just completely confused, since that article had to be moved from 35 to Three-Five due to this fact, with a callsign tag? Thanks for helping to clear this up! Manoof (talk) 07:33, March 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm going to try and keep this explanation as simplified as I can. Conjecture tags are only for articles in which we're making up a name for something when that subject has no official name in any source. This is an example of a conjectural clone trooper. In the case of Trooper 17, the game's subtitles are just as valid as any dialogue. If the game's subtitles call him "17," then that's his official designation. I don't know what the situation is exactly with Trooper 35, but it looks like the game calls him both "Three-Five" and "35"? If so, we just have to make a call on what we think is his most formal, official title. But for 17, it looks like he's only ever called "17," so that's his name. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 14:36, March 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * And I should add that clone trooper articles don't need any sort of header tag, such as the callsign tag, if the article title is their numerical designation. The numerical designation is basically their birth name. It's only when a clone trooper is known by an actual nickname, such as Hawkeye, that we give them the nickname tag. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 14:39, March 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah ok, that makes sense. Thanks heaps! Manoof (talk) 06:15, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

Inqmoot 70
Inqmoot 70 is on Saturday, April 4 at 7 PM EDT or 11 PM UTC. Green Tentacle (Talk) 12:27, March 26, 2015 (UTC)

Sandage Jr.
Maybe this is a weird question, for you anyways, but I was still looking for an image that could be used for Wan Sandage Jr. that's from Kinect Star Wars. The closest I've gotten is from a 720p video on YouTube. I still don't know anyone who can capture 360 screenshots. Either way, this is the closest you can really get to the character, as he doesn't actually appear in any cutscenes and has no real close ups. I was wondering if this could feasibly fill the objection or if I should keep looking for better screenshots, if any are available. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 16:33, April 11, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Bree
"One is happy to be of service." ;-) --LelalMekha (talk) 17:40, April 29, 2015 (UTC)

Re:Databank
Will do. Cevan (talk) 23:40, April 30, 2015 (UTC)

Galaxies TCG placeholders TC
Hi Tope, since you commented on the Galaxies TCG placeholders TC, I just wanted you to know the vote on the TC has been split with a vote option for each article. Thanks for making me aware of the issue, I'll be sure to split the votes in any future combined TCs. Manoof (talk) 05:12, May 1, 2015 (UTC)

Grass article
Say, Toprawa, I was editing the grass article just now and I noticed that it didn't have an Eras tag on it, so I added one. However, it got me wondering why the article didn't have one when Eras was added by bot to all in-universe articles back in May of last year. So I checked and I saw that you had removed it. Just wondering if there was a reason why, or if it was just an oversight. ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:30, May 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * I probably removed it thinking that it shouldn't have one because it's a species article, forgetting that it needed to have the template for the Legends designation. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 07:38, May 3, 2015 (UTC)

The Heart of the Jedi
Hello, Tope. I wanted to ask you opinion about the way we should integrate (or avoid to integrate) material from The Heart of the Jedi into our Legends articles. Technically speaking, the story hasn't been released officially; Flint simply allowed Joe Bongiorno to publish it, but Lucasfilm was not involved, unlike what happened with SkyeWalkers: A Clone Wars Story. However, Flint stated that he edited the story to be compatible with the "modern-day" EU. For new characters like Taj Vallerian, the modus operandi is obvious enough: since he never appeared anywhere else, we'd just create a page for him. But what about the new information regarding the Imperial Senate, for example? Should it appear in the Senate article's BTS? Should we use the "cutstart-cutend" templates? Should we just integrate it anyway, given that the Legends continuity is closed off? --LelalMekha (talk) 22:21, May 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Our policy on this kind of thing can be found in the last paragraph of the BTS section in the Layout Guide here. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:24, May 15, 2015 (UTC)

Inqmoot 71
Inqmoot 71 has been scheduled for Saturday, May 23 at 7 PM EDT or 11 PM UTC for some time, but I have since realized I shouldn't assume that everyone pays attention to the Inq page or the RCs, so you are cordially invited. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 00:02, May 20, 2015 (UTC)

Dud Bolt - What wasn't addressed?
I'm failing to see what objection was not addressed. What was it? --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 03:15, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

Apologies
Hello, my apologies regarding the forum vote, I didn't realise there was a requirement. I'll be sure to read the wiki's policies more closely in the future. -- Cyrannian  02:33, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

AC Meeting 79
Meeting 79 of the Agricorps has been scheduled for 6th of June at the normal time. Please leave notes if unable to attend. - Sir Cavalier of One ( Squadron channel ) 11:33, May 27, 2015 (UTC)

Obi-Wan's third lightsaber/Canon
Could you restore this page? Since this page was deleted, we have decided to create pages for individuals lightsabers, even if they recieve no name in canon. -  AV-6R7 User talk:AV-6R7 22:43, May 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't know what article you're talking about. I never deleted an article at that title. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:38, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Obi-Wan Kenobi's third lightsaber/Canon. -  AV-6R7 User talk:AV-6R7 20:41, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Just recreate it. I'm not seeing any source verifiability in the article's original version, nor do I see any obvious indication that this was Obi-Wan's third lightsaber in NuCanon. You'll have to independently verify this yourself. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:45, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * So we still have to have a canon name? Strange, I thought there was an exception for lightsabers. I guess I could always remove the link on the page. -  AV-6R7 User talk:AV-6R7 20:46, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * There is an exception for lightsabers / personal weapons. Toprawa, what are you getting at here? ProfessorTofty (talk) 20:48, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * You need to provide a source and referencing verifying that "Obi-Wan Kenobi's third lightsaber" is actually a thing in Canon. How do we know he used three lightsabers in Canon? I don't see Canon articles for his first two lightsabers. There was no referencing to verify this subject's legitimacy in the original deleted version, which is why I'm not restoring it. You need to recreate the article and prove this. And I know my name is Toprawa. You don't need to bold it. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:59, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Obi-Wan Kenobi's first lightsaber/Canon. -  AV-6R7 User talk:AV-6R7 21:07, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't know why you're showing this to me. I've twice now given you permission to recreate the article. Please stop bothering me with this. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:13, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Bolding of usernames in forum / talk page posts has been standard on a lot of the forums I frequent. It's something I've always done for a long time and I think if you check my other forum posts, you'll find it's something I've done consistently here too. But if you'd prefer for me to not do with your username, then I won't. ProfessorTofty (talk) 23:12, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

WookieeCast logo

 * For your consideration. Thanks for pushing me to work on the wonky perspective. JorrelWiki-shrinkable.pngFraajic 07:44, June 4, 2015 (UTC)

Template correction
Hello! I would like to get your advice with template correction. There are some problems with Template:Interlang at Ukrainian Star Wars Wikia. Who can I contact for help? Sightsaber (talk) 10:59, June 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure. What problems are you having exactly? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:59, June 4, 2015 (UTC)

EduCorps Meeting 25
EduCorps Meeting 25 has been scheduled for Saturday, June 13th at 7 PM ET. Please leave notes if you cannot attend.-- Exiled Jedi   (Greetings)  04:31, June 6, 2015 (UTC)

Books covers
The article in question was published on June 5th, not June 8th. -  AV-6R7 User talk:AV-6R7 19:20, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

Legends/Canon Banner
Hey, I'm the main admin of The New 52 Batman Wiki, crusadapedia.wikia.com, and I was wondering if you could help me. I really like the canon/legends format that you have set up here with the banners. I was wondering if you could show me how to do the same thing for my articles on that wiki. You see, in The New 52 there are several universes and so different versions of one character. So I really wanted to make similar banners so on say the page of Bruce Wayne, there would be at the top "Earth 0", but people could go to "Earth 2" or "Other Versions". --Mr. Youtube (talk) 21:56, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

Wookieepedian of the Month
Hello there Toprawa; I just had a question concerning Wookieepedian of the Month. Last month I nominated Richterbelmont10 for WotM, and while he did receive some supporters (no opposers either), he did not obtain enough support to win. What I'm curious about is if I am permitted to nominate him once again for this month. The only reason he didn't win last month was due to a lack of supporters (possibly people just forgot about WotM), so I'd very much like to re-nominate him if that's all right. Thanks. Cevan (talk) 05:01, June 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, you're perfectly welcome to renominate him again. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:53, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Sources for Stuntmen

 * Most stuntmen aren't going to bother putting up a bibliography due to wanting to live a private life and we have used sources from all of the above links before because all the pictures shown are given at the conventions themselves and signed.

If they sign their signature of one of the various pictures, that is in fact evidence. I have eight sources indicating this and if there's more than two of the same thing that is proof enough.--Gunman6 (talk) 21:09, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * No, it's not. See Treat Williams. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:10, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * That's an exception to the rule as he signed the wrong autograph as is clearly worded there and this Malcolm Weaver page has evidence of him on-set filming the original Star Wars. Actually look at the sources for once.--Gunman6 (talk) 21:17, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

Inq Meeting 72
Inquisitorius Meeting 72 has been scheduled for Saturday 18th July at the usual time, one an obscure body in the S-K system. Attendance under Ming's laws is required, or appropriate tribute should be offered. - Sir Cavalier of One ( Squadron channel ) 23:16, June 22, 2015 (UTC)

Inquisitor move
The Inquisitors were official named the Imperial Inquisitors in Lords of the Sith, something that is backed up by the soon to be released Star Wars: Absolutely Everything You Need to Know. Howver, the namespace is currently occupied by a redirect to Inquisitorius, the Legends version of the article. The alternitive name is not mentioned in the article, and as far as I cant tell, no articles use this redirect. Could you move Inquisitor to Imperial Inquisitor? -  AV-6R7 Crew Pit 17:32, June 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Disregard this. -  AV-6R7 Crew Pit 19:01, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

Re: User pages
My apologies Toprawa; I was just adding in the WotM award for Richter since he hadn't done so yet and no one told him he'd won. I'll make certain not to do it again. Cevan (talk) 23:28, July 1, 2015 (UTC)

Spy droid redirect
Hi there Tope. I'm contacting you in regards to your edit a few days ago on the Spy droid page, in which you changed the revert to Espionage droid. I realize that current policy is to redirect to a Legends page, however I feel this page should be an exception to this rule. The 9D9-s54 Spy Droid was originally just known as the "Spy droid," and was called as such on the Databank and the episode guide for The Siege of Lothal; it wasn't until the Star Wars Rebels Facebook page was updated that we learned the actual model of the spy droid. However, it's exact model is not used in the Databank, and its page is just called "Spy droid." Because of this, I believe the Spy droid page should redirect to 9D9-s54 Spy Droid rather than Espionage droid. Cevan (talk) 18:56, July 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * The Databank refers to most subjects by their most basic, familiar name (X-wing starfighter, A-wing fighter, etc.), which can apply to both Canon and Legends. If we allow one subjective exception to the rule, then we have to allow them all. The only proper thing to do is be fair and follow the redirect policy. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:48, July 2, 2015 (UTC)

SDCC Header
Hey, I’m with the Wikia Community Development team. I added a temporary header to your homepage because of comic-con. I would’ve asked permission in advance, but we’re doing like a million of these and we don’t have time to ask everyone. You are totally welcome to delete it if you hate it and want it to die! This is completely temporary and we just wanted to keep it up over the long weekend. Wikia is having a presence at comic-con this year, and we’re gonna be covering stuff related to this wiki. We are thinking that some of your users might be interested in this coverage, and we want them to know that it exists. It would be really cool if you could let us keep this up through the end of SDCC on Sunday. - Billy Arrowsmith (Talk), 00:06, July 9, 2015 (UTC)

IRC block
What is that all about? It was funny initially, but I don't know why you blocked me in the first place. <- Omicron (Leave a message at the BEEP! ) 22:11, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok, it's been a couple of weeks, and I am still banned from IRC. Can you at least respond and give me a reason why? <- Omicron (Leave a message at the BEEP! ) 01:05, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Again, you ban me from IRC with no warning or explanation. Can you at least provide me a reason? <- Omicron (Leave a message at the BEEP! ) 03:26, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

Tank
Hiya, I was wondering why you felt Tank should cover the character mentioned in passing in A New Hope? I believe the page should be moved to Tank (individual) and Tank (vehicle) be moved back there to prepare for a Tank/Canon article. --Alientraveller (talk) 17:21, July 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * Item 5 here: "Precedence shall be granted to subjects that can be considered original namesakes for other subjects with competing titles (example: Dagger and all other subjects named Dagger), although this exception may be waived if the namesake's title competes with a major subject (example: Tydirium and Tydirium (ore))." I don't remember if this was discussed with other users or not, but a decision was made to grant the character Tank precedence because he's a film subject and therefore the more likely search candidate. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:26, July 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * That's understandable, not many go here to look up tanks (especially since SW tanks don't look much like the real thing). I just worry it might cause an issue when the bots move everything before TFA comes out, but then it might be ok if Tank/Canon still links to Tank (vehicle) and vice versa. --Alientraveller (talk) 17:41, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Inter Wiki Project
Hey, I messaged Darth Culator with this a couple of days ago, but he seems to be out of town. Seeing as you are active I am hoping you can look this over and respond. I am just going to copy and paste my message to him here.:

Hello, I am hoping the Wookieepedia can help with a project we are working on. All I ask is that you and the community hear me out.

The Elder scrolls wiki is trying to get wiki's more involved in each others well being. Most wikis dont involve themselves with each other unless they are "siblings". I believe that working together would not only benefit the fans and guest to wiki's, but it would benefit the wikis as well.

Right now, there are two wiki's I believe this one could become more involved with. The first is the the Aliens Species Wiki (the link is to the Star wars category), and Wikianswers. Wikianswers has made it clear that if a wiki is to come in and help answers questions related to them, that at the end of the question they can place a link relevant to the question that leads to their wiki.

Elder scrolls is also willing to share your wiki's FB page (should you have one) and we will also be willing to help you guys should you need it.

I know that due to this wiki's size, you already have a lot on your plate, but I ask that you guys consider helping with this project. If you have any questions just let me know. Thank you, and happy editing.-Cheatcodechamp (talk) 00:01, July 17, 2015 (UTC)

Template:Interlang supplement
Hello! May I ask you to add this Ukrainian Star Wars wiki to Template:Interlang? Or, if it's not a span of your activities, please suggest user that can do it. Sightsaber (talk) 08:50, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Revan
I wanted to give you the head's up that I did see the header that you and Cade are working on Revan, but I went ahead and replaced an obsolete/duplicate image because I saw there had been no edits made in 4 days. -  JMAS  Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 17:32, August 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * No problem. Thanks for letting me know. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:34, August 1, 2015 (UTC)

Derpin' down the Highway
Contacting Doofenshmirtz95 through a site like this was the ONLY way to reach him. Please understand that. --KINGCRAB (talk) 21:28, August 2, 2015 (UTC)

Sweat-stop
Since the article feel well below 250 words, I have archived the nomination. Please let me know if there are any other changes you want me to make.-- Exiled Jedi  ( talk ) 22:40, August 3, 2015 (UTC)

Demophon sector
Hi, I see you put back up my old discussion thread on Demophon sector.

Since no one responded to if for all that time, how do I take it down?

Who can tell me if I can add a "behind the scenes", since I am Ivan Garczynski, the author who created Demophon sector. There would be no source, other than me.--Been L&#39;toth (talk) 12:42, August 6, 2015 (UTC)Been L'toth

Cannon vs Legends article names
Good day sir! I recently noticed that many articles for topics in both continuities have slightly different names, such as Battlestation and Battle station, as opposed to having the same name but with a "/cannon" added onto the end. I was wondering if this was intentional and if you could direct me to any policy pages on the matter. Thank you. Unnatural Log (talk) 04:34, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

RE: GAN obejections
Sorry Tope, I had no idea that unstruck points still mattered after you'd supported a nomination. I've struck the objection on Escape from Darth Vader and am searching through the other nomination pages now. Ayrehead02 (talk) 08:12, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

Card game citations thread
Hi Tope, I gave an example of what a smaller text formatting would look like in the Card game citations thread. Can you post in the thread to let us know how it looks?-- Richterbelmont10  ( come in R2! ) 18:19, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

Inq Meeting 73
Inq Meeting 73 has been scheduled for August 22 at 8 PM ET (12 AM UTC). Please leave notes if you cannot attend.-- Exiled Jedi  ( talk ) 01:28, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

Linking
Hi Toprawa! Quick question: on the Te Hasa page, why do you keep removing the link to galaxy in the second instance where Galactic Civil War is mentioned?  Imperators II (Talk) 07:40, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

Ep 7 poster
I was working on inputing the license info. Or did you delete the file because it's a photo of the poster? Trevor (Ohmyn0) 02:11, August 16, 2015 (UTC)