Talk:Darth Bane/Legends

Sith'ari Section
Why was it removed? Was there a vote? Shouldn't the deletion of a whole section be put up to a vote?--Black Jack Scarron 00:27, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It was speculation and it wasn't that big or important of a section.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 20:57, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


 * it's one thing when fans read too much into the author's writing. but drew k, heavily implies bane is the sith'ari, he does everything, but outright says it's bane. and it was an important part of the novel because bane meets the parameters of the sith'ari after he's told what the sith'ari is. so as a reader, we are told what the sith'ari must do. and as we read on we see bane fulfill the requirements. it should be re-added. it could be bts for god's sake. if anybody thinks it's not a big deal to remove, i equally or even more passionately believe it should be left in the article. --Black Jack Scarron 04:40, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree it needs to be in. Whether he is or isnt the fact that he is sort of implied as the sith'ari is sort of important.Darth James 21:02, 12 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes thank you, Sith'ari is still mentioned in Vader's article. It should remain in Bane's article.--Black Jack Scarron 00:17, 13 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I strongly believe that the sith`ari section of the Darth bane page SHOULD be included I have both the darth bane novels by drew k and as it has been said in `path of destruction` drew does imply that bane is the sith`ari and I agree It would take a brilliant sith mind to think of the rule of 2 and completely overthrow Kaan`s brotherhood that was the work of the true sith`ari--78.150.222.168 20:02, October 22, 2009 (UTC)Pope Dean the greatest.

5.3 Factual correction: Darth Bane's Species
I think Darth Bane is part human, part Kath. Republic recruiters refer to him as a "Kath-mutt" in Chapter 3 of "Darth Bane: Path of Destruction". Gerd refers to him as an "ungrateful son-of-a-Kath-hound" in Chapter 1.
 * A kath hound is a type of animal, and therefore not a suitable partner for a Human. So no. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 23:07, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It's an insult, in that case. Like calling someone a son of a bitch.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 00:42, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It is possible that he is near or part human and from Dantooine. User:Wild Dog--Wild Dog 13:56, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Very doubtful.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 22:33, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The pictures of him I've seen show him with red eyes, greenish skin, and dark walking under his eyes. The dark markings are probably Sith tattoos but the skin and eyes are strange for a full human. Maybe these are extreme effects of being physically changed by the dark side such as yellow eyes.
 * Working in the mines also, it is stated, has had a pretty negative effect on his physical health and complexion. The Haunted Angel 17:56, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Question
can i add this information to my website or is it all copywrited?
 * See FAQ, namely the legal questions section. I'll quote it: "Yes [you may use info from this siite]! However, this only applies to the text, licensed under the GFDL, and a select few free images. Most of our images are copyrighted by Lucasfilm Ltd. and used under the fair use clause for identification purposes, and using them for other purposes or in countries where fair use conditions do not apply may be illegal. If you use Wookieepedia articles elsewhere, all you are legally required to do (by the license) is to add a copyright notice saying that the article is copyrighted and licensed under the GFDL, and a link to the original Wookieepedia article. You can freely modify and redistribute the material, provided that you license your modifications under the GFDL as well. You cannot license it on other conditions or put it in the public domain, nor can you claim copyright for content you did not write yourself (everyone only holds copyright to the contributions they themselves made)."  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 00:57, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

so no pictures, link it back to wookepedia that the article is copyrighted and licensed under the GFD.....then i can add into my website anywere?

darth banes death
is there going to a book or anything in which darth bane dies?
 * Perhaps in Darth Bane: Dynasty of Evil.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 20:06, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't Darth Bane be listed in the category, Dark Lords of the Sith? 65.219.4.7 00:56, 19 February 2009 (UTC) gusmahler


 * Yes I think he should if he isn't already.Black Jack Scarron 16:09, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * He's already in the subcategory Category:Sith Lords of Bane's Order. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 18:12, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Darth bane doesn't die in DoE, that much is for sure. Zannah does though

5.3 Factual correction
In Darth Bane: Path of Destruction, it describes Dessel's eyes as being blue. That should probably be added to the eye description. --Jkrewtman 06:11, 24 February 2009 (UTC) But his eyes are yellow-red in the main image. So, his eyes aren't blue. WILDEYE N-25 02:15, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

While the cover image of Darth Bane shows him with Sith eyes (yellow), the actual text states that his eyes are blue. I think the author's texts are more accurate than an artist's illustration. Plus, if you bring up Darth Vader's profile it also states blue eyes along with the yellow sith eyes. Just thinking Wookieepedia should have some continuity. Jkrewtman 17:34, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Bane is the Sith'ari
Should this perhaps be mentioned in the opening paragraph, somewhere? (It was recently confirmed by the CSWE)( Uli Talk 21:23, 18 April 2009 (UTC))
 * Yeah, I'll check CSWE and add it.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 23:56, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

No Darth Bane/Darth Rivan contradiction
First let me say that everything I am about to state can be found on Wookieepedia. Now, in Darth Rivan's page on this site it states that he got his Sith name from a corrupted Sith manuscript which identified Darth Revan, the Dark Lord of the Sith who was redeemed during the Jedi Civil War, as "Rivan." So, this implies the Rivan was a fan of Revan and most likely but not confirmed copied him in at lest some way. Darth Bane came up with the idea for the Rule of Two after studying Darth Revan's holocron. So, we can conclude that despite the fact that Darth Rivan predated Darth Bane it is possible that Darth Rivan's fortress had a trap that adherence to the one master/one apprentice rule that Revan (who predates them both) first instituted and the Darth Bane adapted. --JMasterWor 20:00, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Also, Darth Bane may have "authored" the Rule of Two but it was not his idea. He was told by Darth Revan's holocron about the Rule of Two.

"The strong must be careful lest they be overwhelmed by the ambitions of those working beneath them in concert. Any master who instructs more than one apprentice in the ways of the dark side is a fool. In time, the apprentices will unite their strengths and overthrow the master. It is inevitable; axiomatic. That is why each master must have only one student.

This is also the reason there can only be one Dark Lord. The Sith must be ruled by a single leader: the very embodiment of the strength and power of the dark side. If the leader grows weak another must rise to seize the mantle. The strong rule; the weak are meant to serve. This is the way it must be.

My time here is ended. Take what I have taught you and use it well."

Darth Bane decided to bring back the idea of the Rule of Two but did not originally come up with it. --s1th 21:30, 4 Sept 2009 (UTC)

Darth Revan only came up with the one master, one apprentice part but he only followed that to a degree. He had many Sith through out his fleet and he had the Sith Academy on Korriban full of potential Sith. Where Darth Bane's Rule of Two was one master, one apprentice period, no other Sith were to exist. Darth Rivan just used the one master, one apprentice idea that Revan had and used it in his fortress. --JMasterWor 14:26, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

first part
Actually the last portion of the opening portion in the feature article darth bane is false it is not possible for him to have to wait a millenia for the sith to re-emerge because in the second book of darth bane The Rule of two chancellor valorum makes an apearance although not as the prsent chancellor

new picture
that is a horrible main picture, so i'm changing it back whether you like it or not. --Vandar Tokare42 06:14, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Someone seems to place an unwarranted amount importance on themselves. It's obvious that your opinion conflicts with others. I suggest that before you go around changing things because you don't like them, you discuss it first. Changing it back due to reasons being childish and unprofessional. If you wish to discuss it further, I highly suggest you be more negotiable. -- Redemption Redemptionusersymbol.png (Talk) 06:20, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm in favor of keeping this pic as the main one if it's up for discussion.--Black Jack Scarron 23:02, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I liked the original picture better than the new one.
 * It was changed because the Chris Trevas image from The Essential Atlas is very high quality. And it was changed with the full approval of the individual who nominated it for FA way back when. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 23:10, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The new image is awesome. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 23:43, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That's probably the most detailed picture of Bane i've ever seen. I say it should remain the main picture 90.194.175.210 20:40, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I think the picture should be kept. Wormulon 21:18, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * yeah, i've warmed to the image now. i like it. --Vandar Tokare42 23:14, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Violet blade
Hi. I just read both Banes novels (third time i have to admit) and i have a question. I am cofused by the violet colour of his lightsaber as it is on the picture of one issue of Jedi vs.Sith and Bane of the Sith and the violet saber, he has in his legacy series toy. In both books there is said that he had crimson blade and only crimson blade there is no mention of violet. Only thing that i know of is the cristal Qordis gave to Bane. Was this cristal the one, giving the blade violet colour? If so there should be some mention about it in the books but there is none. Also according to above mentioned pictures, Bane must has had the violet colour in the seventh battle of Ruusan and on Dxun but in the novels there is clearly described the colour as crimson. Is it some kind of contradiction or ani missing something?--ScorpiO 22:02, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * What we have here is an example of the powers-that-be mucking up canon for no good reason. Bane's saber was supposed to be purple, but due to the prevalent fetishism of giving every bad guy a red lightsaber they changed it all around. Man, the EU's turned to complete poodoo. 64.180.93.200 20:00, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

question
Bane posessed unique force abilities and and an affinity for lightsaber combat and well as hand to hand combat he in short was a great and powerful sith. Darth Sidious also had unique abilities such as battle meditation and was also skilled with a lightsaber and was considered the greatest Sith Lord of all time if the two were to clash what would be the outcome? I strongly Favor Bane but Sideous surprised many people time and time again. I wish to here another persons opinion on this situation. perhaps someone more knowledgeable than me. --Jedihistorian1923 22:42, November 7, 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your interest in Wookieepedia, but Wookieepedia is not a general-purpose message board so questions like this are off topic for a talk page. Might I suggest trying the Knowledge Bank? =) - Brandon Rhea Alliance Starbird.svg (talk) 22:45, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, this would be off-topic for the Knowledge Bank also, as it violates rule 2 (no versus threads). Might I suggest the Jedi Council Forums on TheForce.Net? &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 22:50, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Spoilers!!
So, for anyone who has read DoE, did Bane or Zannah win? Obviously the book was written deliberately vague, but what do you think is the outcome? Personally, I think Zannah won, but I'd like to get an answer from Chee about this (I may post this in hopes of an answer in the holocron forum).  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 01:21, December 11, 2009 (UTC) Yeah but in the third book the author says that zannah was clenching and unclenching her hand like Bane did earlier in the book
 * Yeah, I hope Zannah won too. I will be really angry if Bane won. I mean, he was a great anti-hero, but I feel like his story should be over.
 * So it looks like the Author has straight up announced that Zannah won that battle and that Bane has in fact died. Here is a link: http://www.drewkarpyshyn.com/spoiler.htm  Kieren Horn 
 * He's dead.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 19:21, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Essence Transfer
What is the possibility that Bane, learning of essence transfer, has somehow maintained a role as either master or apprentice? Possibly could explain how Darth Plagueis had such a vast knowledge of the force. I know its all speculation, just a thought. I think that someone needs to update Banes powers and abilities with essence transfer and death field, and also note how strong his willpower was, even if he did lose to Zannah.
 * You mean Bane is Plagueis? I doubt it. Anyway, there's no canonical answer as to whether he survived past 980 BBY.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 21:58, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * I know there is no canonical answer but Sidious does say in RotS that only one has mastered the ability to live forever and Im just saying, IF Bane did in fact win the battle of wills with Zannah then....? Darth jerpus 23:07, December 14, 2009 (UTC)Jerpus
 * Well, he didn't. I believe this will answer your questions. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 23:11, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * Awesome, Thanks for the info.Darth jerpus 08:37, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * Drew has confirmed that Zannah won the battle and is now the Dark Lord of the Sith, but that a tiny piece of Bane's soul continues to live inside her. He stole the idea from Harry Potter. Jayden Matthews 08:47, December 15, 2009 (UTC)