Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Modon Kira


 * ''The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a good article nomination that was successful. Please do not modify it.

Modon Kira

 * Nominated by:  IFYLOFD  ( Floyd's crib ) 06:31, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: A badass.

(3 ACs/3 Users/6 Total)
Support
 * 1) —Tommy9281  Dark side Master SWGTCG.jpg ( Mechno-chair ) 05:56, January 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Nothing to oppose. Skippy Farlstendoiro 08:21, February 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  01:14, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) Why just GA? Why not FA? Kreivi Wolter 16:44, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) *I put this article on here because I have too many article on the FAN page already. I plan to put it up for FA when some of my FA noms get cleared off the FAN page.  IFYLOFD  ( Floyd's crib ) 01:24, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) The beast riders, cool. I don't see why I shouldn't vote.--Celtic22 17:17, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7)  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 00:31, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Blacklist:
 * 2) * Missing sources.
 * 3) **I'm not sure which ones are missing... help me out here?
 * 4) *** I'm not going to give you the answers. It's not what the teacher teaches, but what the student learns. ;)
 * 5) ****Addressed.
 * 6) ***** Are you completely sure? Aside from checking all available sources, you might also want to check with someone like to see if Modon has any mention in any fact files.
 * 7) ******Thanks to Cav, I got the Fact File mentions. I believe this to be addressed.
 * 8) ******* It is not. See the second part of my last statement: "Aside from checking all available sources..." I am not giving you any more clues, either. It is your responsibility as the article's nominator to be thorough. —Tommy9281 Dark side Master SWGTCG.jpg ( Mechno-chair ) 01:14, January 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 9) ********Herein lies the problem. I don't have access to a large number of sources, and I have no idea where I should look.
 * 10) ********* Ignorance is no excuse. As the most active TOTJ person around as of late, I have access to most of the necessary sources. As the project's lead, I'd like to think that contacting me would be the most logical place to start. I've actually tried several times over the past few weeks to contact you via IRC, but you've been been unresponsive/unavailable for whatever reason. —Tommy9281 Dark side Master SWGTCG.jpg ( Mechno-chair ) 01:38, January 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11) **********Well, for whatever reason I haven't received or seen those messages. Is it possible for you to get on IRC now or soon so we can work this little issue out? I'm available now and will be for at least a couple more hours.
 * 12) * Missing info from the audio drama.
 * 13) **Modon Kira neither appears or is mentioned in the audio drama.
 * 14) *** And that's exactly why you need to state the info from the audio drama.
 * 15) *** P.S.--Modon Kira is not replaced in the audio drama by Gobee.
 * 16) ****Well that's what it seemed like to me. Addressed.
 * 17) ***** What it seemed like to you is wrong, and is also unacceptable when it is not factual. Try again.
 * 18) ******When I posted that last comment I actually already had removed the part about Gobee; I was just saying that's what it seemed like to me.
 * 19) ******* I hear you, but it is still not complete. I assume you don't have the audio, so I'll go ahead and fix this for you at this point. Keep in mind, however, that by browsing some of the corresponding TOTJ articles, you would have found the correct information.
 * 20) * This can can use a thorough copyedit.
 * 21) **Addressed.
 * 22) * The intro reads a little unwieldy. You may want to rework some of it, preferably the pipelinking. —Tommy9281 Dark side Master SWGTCG.jpg ( No truth in me ) 07:05, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * 23) **What do you mean by pipelinking?
 * 24) ***I've taken care of it. —Tommy9281 Dark side Master SWGTCG.jpg ( No truth in me ) 05:50, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 25) * "They relented when Galia confessed that she had willingly joined herself to Modon's son, and the Jedi instead went to lead a peace mission that would ask Amanoa to end the war." This reads like it's from Galia's article. Please rewrite it so that it's from Modon's POV.
 * 26) **Addressed.
 * 27) * "Little did Iziz know however, Galia willingly left with the Beast Riders so she could consecrate her love for Oron Kira." This sentence is unnecessary, because it has nothing to do with Modon Kira. Furthermore, this same point is made further down in the next paragraph.
 * 28) **Addressed.
 * 29) * You need to verify and state (in a "Legacy" section) whether or not this individual was named after Modon Kira.
 * 30) **He's not named after Modon Kira, but he has been stated to be one of his descendants. Addressed.
 * 31) ***What you've added is sufficient, but the fact that someone of your experience has to be repeatedly reminded to cover all bases (especially with something so obvious as this) is borderline unacceptable. Step ya game up. —Tommy9281 Dark side Master SWGTCG.jpg ( Mechno-chair ) 01:47, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * 32) *That's all. I've done some cleaning up but it's otherwise good. —Tommy9281 Dark side Master SWGTCG.jpg ( No truth in me ) 05:50, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 33) The Grand Master
 * 34) * The intro is too long for an article of this size.
 * 35) **I've cut it down some; is this good enough?
 * 36) ***Yes, but I think it's too long for a single paragraph; I'd suggest splitting it back to two paragraphs but cutting it down just a little more. Also, much of the article has huge blocks of text, can some of these be split into smaller paragraphs?
 * 37) ****Addressed.
 * 38) * No link for the "attack" in the Legacy section?
 * 39) **No there isn't. However, this poses a problem; I do not possess Empire's End and although I could create an article, it would be painfully short and missing lots of information. I could create the article anyway if you wish.
 * 40) ***Eh, I guess go ahead and make a stub and see if someone will update it :P.
 * 41) ****That course of action is unacceptable. If you don't possess something, it is still your responsibility to find someone who does so that you can be certain you are not missing any applicable information. You have used this excuse several times before, that you don't have access to sources, and quite frankly it's been worn out. If you can't (or won't) obtain sources for something for whatever reason, then perhaps you shouldn't attempt to nominate it. Don't expect others to pick up slack where there shouldn't be any in the first place. —Tommy 9281 Mechnochair negwt.jpg ( Mechno-chair ) 01:51, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 42) *****Never mind about the new article; the skirmish seems to be a part of a battle which already has an article, which has been linked.
 * 43) * Watch the tense shifting in the BTS.
 * 44) **Addressed.
 * 45) *I've taken care of these in my copyedit, but again, please watch your under-linking. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 20:19, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Comments


 * You crank these TOTJ noms out far too quickly without making sure all the bases are covered. Don't sacrifice quality for quantity. —Tommy9281 Dark side Master SWGTCG.jpg ( No truth in me ) 07:05, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry. This is my first article from this period of TOTJ, and its must less straightforward than the noms from Golden Age of the Sith or Fall of the Sith Empire. Some problems are to be expected, I guess.  IFYLOFD  ( Floyd's crib ) 05:55, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey Floyd, no hard feelings whatsoever. I'm glad that you are working on the TOTJ articles and thoroughly appreciative. I'm just hard on you because you are an Inquisitor as well as an experienced article writer, and such mishaps should be beyond you at this point. WP:TOTJ is and has been known for the quality of its articles, and as the project lead, I want to maintain that reputation. Others have been just as hard on me for the same reasons, and it forced me to get better. We all make mistakes from time to time so it's not the end of the world. You do a great job here; keep up the good work. —Tommy9281 Dark side Master SWGTCG.jpg ( No truth in me ) 01:36, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wishing everyone a happy new year! :D SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 13:07, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. :)  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 01:37, January 1, 2010 (UTC)