Wookieepedia:AC/Log/2011 December 17

2011 Dec 17 | 23:11:43 <@Toprawa>	Ok, we were on first order of business, Jang 2011 Dec 17 | 23:11:51 <@Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hallowe%27en 2011 Dec 17 | 23:11:55 <@Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Hallowe%27en 2011 Dec 17 | 23:12:00 <@Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=3787218 2011 Dec 17 | 23:12:08 <@Jang|Away>	Thanks for reinviting me back, Cav, Jugs, Tope, Xd. It's good to be back :) 2011 Dec 17 | 23:12:33 <@ecks>	Feel free to add yourself to the list 2011 Dec 17 | 23:12:43 <@ecks>	as for Hallowe'en, it seems fixed... 2011 Dec 17 | 23:12:49 <@ecks>	... but is there a citation template for CWA? 2011 Dec 17 | 23:12:51 <@Jang|Away>	Sure. I'll do that after the meeting. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:13:00 <@Jang|Away>	Yes there is 2011 Dec 17 | 23:13:16 <@CavalierOne>	Agreed. Halloween appears updated. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:13:18 <@Toprawa>	I see some minor issues in there. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:13:37 <@Toprawa>	The CWA link in the Appearances, possibly the referencing as well, needs to be changed from the disambig page 2011 Dec 17 | 23:13:40 <@ecks>	Yeah, I spotted a random ref before comma in the infobox :P 2011 Dec 17 | 23:13:53 <@Toprawa>	And I think the article should specify within the IU sections the alternate spelling 2011 Dec 17 | 23:13:56 <@Toprawa>	Hallowe'en 2011 Dec 17 | 23:14:04 <@Toprawa>	currently it's only mentioned in the BTS, I believe 2011 Dec 17 | 23:14:16 <@Jujiggum>	Maybe need to go through it with a general copyedit? 2011 Dec 17 | 23:14:27 <@Toprawa>	Never a bad idea. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:14:27 <@ecks>	Yeah, if it's called both, I don't see any reason to make it OOU-only. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:15:04 <@Jang|Away>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Template:TCWA 2011 Dec 17 | 23:15:39 <@Toprawa>	We can extend probe for the minor issues 2011 Dec 17 | 23:15:46 <@ecks>	agreed, extend 2011 Dec 17 | 23:16:00 <@Jujiggum>	Aye, extend 2011 Dec 17 | 23:16:00 <@CavalierOne>	Extend. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:16:32 <@Toprawa>	I agree to extend 2011 Dec 17 | 23:16:35 <@Toprawa>	Jang? 2011 Dec 17 | 23:17:12 <@Jang|Away>	Sorry. Extend 2011 Dec 17 | 23:17:20 <@ecks>	aww' I just pinged you :p 2011 Dec 17 | 23:17:22 <@Toprawa>	May it be noted that we're officially overriding absentee votes, also 2011 Dec 17 | 23:17:27 <@Toprawa>	Halloween extended. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:17:35 <@Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vindoo_Barvel 2011 Dec 17 | 23:17:41 <@Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Vindoo_Barvel 2011 Dec 17 | 23:17:46 <@Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=3787222 2011 Dec 17 | 23:18:03 <@Jujiggum>	Vindoo appears to be fixed. Hanzo says that Starsider has given it the OK 2011 Dec 17 | 23:18:26 <@ecks>	Looks good to me. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:18:32 <@Jang|Away>	I'm still not sure how reliable the guy is, but Galaxies is gone now. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:18:48 <@CavalierOne>	Aye. Its going to be hard to corroborate this stuff. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:18:58 <@ecks>	We need an SWG player here :P 2011 Dec 17 | 23:19:03 <@Jujiggum>	Only thing I can think of is: do you guys think it would be worth mentioning Barvel's partaking in a later skirmish in the intro? 2011 Dec 17 | 23:19:10 <@Jang|Away>	I was one :P But lacking most knowledge. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:19:49 <@Jujiggum>	Intro right now only goes up to his fight with Vader 2011 Dec 17 | 23:19:54 <@ecks>	Yeah 2011 Dec 17 | 23:19:59 <@ecks>	I agree that could use a mention 2011 Dec 17 | 23:20:12 <@Jujiggum>	I'd be willing to do that now to spare an extended probe 2011 Dec 17 | 23:20:14 <@Jujiggum>	It's be pretty easy 2011 Dec 17 | 23:20:22 <@ecks>	though I don't know if it's anything special due to the game completion tags 2011 Dec 17 | 23:20:25 <@Jujiggum>	Then we could just keep 2011 Dec 17 | 23:20:26 <@Jang|Away>	Yeah 2011 Dec 17 | 23:20:29 <@Jujiggum>	Ah, true 2011 Dec 17 | 23:20:56 <@Toprawa>	I vote keep 2011 Dec 17 | 23:21:06 <@Toprawa>	as so absentees, basically 2011 Dec 17 | 23:21:09 <@CavalierOne>	Yeah, I wouldn't on those grounds so keep. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:21:09 <@Jang|Away>	Keep sounds fine to me too 2011 Dec 17 | 23:21:12 <@Jujiggum>	Sure, keep 2011 Dec 17 | 23:21:14 <@ecks>	Keep 2011 Dec 17 | 23:21:19 <@Toprawa>	Vindoo Barvel kept. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:21:26 <@Toprawa>	Moving on to new articles. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:21:33 <@Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Moogan 2011 Dec 17 | 23:21:35 <@Toprawa>	Has an update tag 2011 Dec 17 | 23:21:46 <@Jang|Away>	Yeah, I know what needs updating 2011 Dec 17 | 23:21:47 <@Jujiggum>	Probe 2011 Dec 17 | 23:21:53 <@Jang|Away>	Probe :P 2011 Dec 17 | 23:21:56 <@Toprawa>	Probe 2011 Dec 17 | 23:22:09 <@CavalierOne>	Probe 2011 Dec 17 | 23:22:10 <@ecks>	Probe 2011 Dec 17 | 23:22:17 <@Toprawa>	Moogan probed. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:22:22 <@Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Voss_(species) 2011 Dec 17 | 23:22:23 <@Toprawa>	Update tag 2011 Dec 17 | 23:22:50 <@Jujiggum>	Probify 2011 Dec 17 | 23:22:55 <@Toprawa>	Probe 2011 Dec 17 | 23:22:56 <@Jang|Away>	Was that TOR book just released? 2011 Dec 17 | 23:22:59 <@Jang|Away>	probe 2011 Dec 17 | 23:23:14 <@CavalierOne>	Only recently. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:23:16 <@CavalierOne>	Probe. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:23:22 <@Toprawa>	came out in November 2011 Dec 17 | 23:23:26 <@Jang|Away>	Oh 2011 Dec 17 | 23:23:27 <@ecks>	yeah 2011 Dec 17 | 23:23:27 <@Toprawa>	I think it's long enough 2011 Dec 17 | 23:23:29 <@ecks>	Probe 2011 Dec 17 | 23:23:44 <@Toprawa>	Voss (species) probed 2011 Dec 17 | 23:23:47 <@CavalierOne>	Saying that, its probably going to need another mass update when TOR goes fully live. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:23:55 <@Toprawa>	Yeah 2011 Dec 17 | 23:23:59 <@Jujiggum>	Yeah 2011 Dec 17 | 23:23:59 <@Jang|Away>	haha yeah 2011 Dec 17 | 23:24:00 <@Toprawa>	A LOT of things will :P 2011 Dec 17 | 23:24:06 <@Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/3,955_BBY 2011 Dec 17 | 23:24:08 <@Toprawa>	Update tag 2011 Dec 17 | 23:24:16 <@ecks>	But who doesn't love two-hour meetings? 2011 Dec 17 | 23:24:29 <@Toprawa>	^.^ 2011 Dec 17 | 23:24:39 <@Jang|Away>	Apocalypse will arrive December 20, 2011 2011 Dec 17 | 23:25:04 <@Jujiggum>	heh 2011 Dec 17 | 23:25:05 <@Toprawa>	I vote probe for 3,955 2011 Dec 17 | 23:25:10 <@Jujiggum>	Probe it 2011 Dec 17 | 23:25:14 <@Jang|Away>	Probe 2011 Dec 17 | 23:25:17 <@CavalierOne>	Probe. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:25:48 <@Toprawa>	3,955 BBY probed 2011 Dec 17 | 23:25:55 <@Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sluissi 2011 Dec 17 | 23:26:04 <@Toprawa>	multiple updates needed 2011 Dec 17 | 23:26:16 <@Jujiggum>	More probing! 2011 Dec 17 | 23:26:17 <@Jang|Away>	Probe definitely 2011 Dec 17 | 23:26:28 <@Toprawa>	probably a basic copyedit needed 2011 Dec 17 | 23:26:31 <@ecks>	Looks like it could use... that 2011 Dec 17 | 23:26:33 <@ecks>	probe 2011 Dec 17 | 23:26:34 <@Toprawa>	I see at least one "human" not capped 2011 Dec 17 | 23:26:35 <@CavalierOne>	Probe everything! 2011 Dec 17 | 23:26:41 <@Toprawa>	Probe 2011 Dec 17 | 23:26:50 <@Toprawa>	Sluissi probed. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:26:58 <@Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_speed 2011 Dec 17 | 23:27:06 <@Toprawa>	Update was handled by Grunny 2011 Dec 17 | 23:27:11 <@Jang|Away>	yeah I saw grunny updated it 2011 Dec 17 | 23:27:13 <@Jang|Away>	Keep 2011 Dec 17 | 23:27:16 <@CavalierOne>	Keep 2011 Dec 17 | 23:27:17 <@Jujiggum>	Aye, keep 2011 Dec 17 | 23:27:26 <@Toprawa>	Keep 2011 Dec 17 | 23:27:54 <@ecks>	Keep 2011 Dec 17 | 23:28:00 <@Toprawa>	Force speed kept 2011 Dec 17 | 23:28:07 <@Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Trinnolt_Makken 2011 Dec 17 | 23:28:13 <@Toprawa>	Jugs handled update 2011 Dec 17 | 23:28:26 <@Jujiggum>	Yep. Don't know how I missed that before 2011 Dec 17 | 23:28:38 <@Toprawa>	Keep 2011 Dec 17 | 23:28:41 <@CavalierOne>	Keep 2011 Dec 17 | 23:28:42 <@Jang|Away>	Keep :P 2011 Dec 17 | 23:28:45 <@ecks>	Keep 2011 Dec 17 | 23:28:51 <@Jujiggum>	Oops, sill need to get BTS 2011 Dec 17 | 23:28:57 <@CavalierOne>	Probe! 2011 Dec 17 | 23:29:00 <@Jang|Away>	haha 2011 Dec 17 | 23:29:01 <@Toprawa>	heh 2011 Dec 17 | 23:29:02 <@Jujiggum>	I'll take care of it 2011 Dec 17 | 23:29:03 <@Jujiggum>	XD 2011 Dec 17 | 23:29:10 <@Toprawa>	It's a minor update 2011 Dec 17 | 23:29:16 <@Toprawa>	Keep on Jugs' credit :P 2011 Dec 17 | 23:29:28 <@Jujiggum>	Haha :P 2011 Dec 17 | 23:29:34 <@CavalierOne>	No credit. Cash only" 2011 Dec 17 | 23:29:41 <@Jang|Away>	XD 2011 Dec 17 | 23:29:46 <@Toprawa>	No objections? 2011 Dec 17 | 23:30:01 <@Toprawa>	Trinnot Makken kept, then 2011 Dec 17 | 23:30:02 <@CavalierOne>	Many. Just none for this article :P 2011 Dec 17 | 23:30:05 <@Jujiggum>	GOT IT 2011 Dec 17 | 23:30:06 <@Jujiggum>	HA 2011 Dec 17 | 23:30:14 <@Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kashi_Mer_talisman 2011 Dec 17 | 23:30:17 <@Jang|Away>	haha 2011 Dec 17 | 23:30:21 <@Toprawa>	Kashi Mer talisman — This article currently lacks an infobox and I believe that the "Artifact" infobox would be appropriate here. --Jinzler 11:36, December 17, 2011 (UTC) 2011 Dec 17 | 23:30:22 <@Toprawa>	   Added box and did other cleanup as well. TK999 19:13, December 17, 2011 (UTC) 2011 Dec 17 | 23:30:24 <@Toprawa>	         tags in infobox JangFett (Talk) 19:34, December 17, 2011 (UTC) 2011 Dec 17 | 23:30:26 <@Toprawa>	        Fact tag in BTS too. And TFN message board posts don't quality as Sources list material. General cleanup needed as well. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:28, December 17, 2011 (UTC) 2011 Dec 17 | 23:30:45 <@ecks>	I think TK did something with it 2011 Dec 17 | 23:30:48 <@CavalierOne>	Redirects burn my eyes. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:30:55 <@Jang|Away>	yeah he added in those unsourced links in the infobox 2011 Dec 17 | 23:31:20 <@Toprawa>	I vote probe for all of that 2011 Dec 17 | 23:31:26 <@Jujiggum>	Probe 2011 Dec 17 | 23:31:29 <@Jang|Away>	Probe :P 2011 Dec 17 | 23:31:32 <@ecks>	Probe 2011 Dec 17 | 23:31:39 <@ecks>	Intro needs expansion 2011 Dec 17 | 23:31:45 <@Toprawa>	For that too :P 2011 Dec 17 | 23:31:49 <@CavalierOne>	Probe. Era should probably be reentered as well. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:32:11 <@Toprawa>	yeah 2011 Dec 17 | 23:32:25 <@Toprawa>	Kashi Mer talisman probed for all above mentioned reasons 2011 Dec 17 | 23:32:33 <@Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kix 2011 Dec 17 | 23:32:38 <@Jang|Away>	:D 2011 Dec 17 | 23:32:39 <@Toprawa>	Kix — currently Inuse, but it hasn't got updated for several episodes, at least one of which has been out for over a month. CC7567 (talk) 19:12, December 17, 2011 (UTC) 2011 Dec 17 | 23:32:54 <@Jang|Away>	Jang is a lazy ass 2011 Dec 17 | 23:33:14 <@ecks>	:P 2011 Dec 17 | 23:33:18 <@Toprawa>	heh 2011 Dec 17 | 23:33:22 <@ecks>	Probe, I suppose 2011 Dec 17 | 23:33:28 <@Jujiggum>	Yeah, probe 2011 Dec 17 | 23:33:35 <@Jujiggum>	:P 2011 Dec 17 | 23:33:39 <@Toprawa>	Probe 2011 Dec 17 | 23:33:42 <@Jang|Away>	I'm going to say probe for both clone articles :P 2011 Dec 17 | 23:33:59 <@CavalierOne>	Probe. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:34:30 <@Toprawa>	Kix probed 2011 Dec 17 | 23:34:49 <@Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CT-5597 2011 Dec 17 | 23:34:51 <@Toprawa>	Same as above 2011 Dec 17 | 23:34:58 <@Jujiggum>	Yep, probe 2011 Dec 17 | 23:34:59 <@Toprawa>	Jang votes probe, and so therefore do I :P 2011 Dec 17 | 23:35:01 <@ecks>	Probe 2011 Dec 17 | 23:35:35 <@Jang|Away>	Sorry guys :P heh 2011 Dec 17 | 23:35:59 <@Toprawa>	CT-5597 probed 2011 Dec 17 | 23:36:12 <@Toprawa>	Ok, Hanzo tried presenting this one: 2011 Dec 17 | 23:36:16 <@Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Peto_Kelsan 2011 Dec 17 | 23:36:26 <@Toprawa>	Peto Kelsan- apparently during the summer a failed FAN with outstanding objections, as its nominator didn't have the time to finish it. Hanzo Hasashi 14:50, December 12, 2011 (UTC) 2011 Dec 17 | 23:36:27 <@Toprawa>	   Firstly, though I didn't look at the specific unresolved objections myself, a failed FAN does not necessarily mean it doesn't meet GA standards. Secondly, if you're presenting this article for formal AC review, please place it under the appropriate section on the meeting agenda, for new articles. I would also request, especially considering the limited amount of time before meeting day,... 2011 Dec 17 | 23:36:29 <@Toprawa>	...that you please cite specific points that need to be evaluated. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:41, December 12, 2011 (UTC) 2011 Dec 17 | 23:36:33 <@Jang|Away>	9_9 2011 Dec 17 | 23:36:44 <@Jang|Away>	yeah I remember that :P 2011 Dec 17 | 23:36:47 <@Toprawa>	We talked about this at an Inqmoot once - basically, if you can't provide real reasons for us to examine for probation, we're not going to waste our time with it 2011 Dec 17 | 23:37:01 <@Toprawa>	I didn't look into the article that closely 2011 Dec 17 | 23:37:06 <@Toprawa>	If anyone else did and sees something, then by all means 2011 Dec 17 | 23:37:13 <@Jujiggum>	I went ahead and checked the FA nom page, and it looks like it is just another one of those that needs a general cleanup copyedit 2011 Dec 17 | 23:37:20 <@Jujiggum>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Featured_article_nominations/Peto_Kelsan 2011 Dec 17 | 23:37:46 <@Toprawa>	Would you recommend for probe? 2011 Dec 17 | 23:37:55 <@Jujiggum>	I'd be willing to probe for that, yeah 2011 Dec 17 | 23:38:02 <@Toprawa>	Very well, I can probe then too 2011 Dec 17 | 23:38:09 <@ecks>	agreed with Jugs 2011 Dec 17 | 23:39:05 <@Toprawa>	Anyone else? 2011 Dec 17 | 23:39:15 <@CavalierOne>	Probe 2011 Dec 17 | 23:39:45 <@Jang|Away>	If this is fine (I'm no Inq), probe. :P 2011 Dec 17 | 23:39:54 <@Toprawa>	Peto Kelsan probed 2011 Dec 17 | 23:40:21 <@ecks>	It's AC territory ;p 2011 Dec 17 | 23:40:22 *	@Toprawa looks at maintenance page 2011 Dec 17 | 23:40:35 <@Jang|Away>	Ohh 2011 Dec 17 | 23:40:40 <@Jang|Away>	:P 2011 Dec 17 | 23:40:47 <@Toprawa>	we have an update tag for Acklay for TOR, which isn't even out yet 2011 Dec 17 | 23:40:54 <@Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Acklay 2011 Dec 17 | 23:41:00 <@Toprawa>	Bypass until it's released at least? 2011 Dec 17 | 23:41:03 <@CavalierOne>	TOR is a headache. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:41:05 <@Jujiggum>	Yeah 2011 Dec 17 | 23:41:07 <@Jujiggum>	And yeah 2011 Dec 17 | 23:41:11 <@Jujiggum>	To both of you :P 2011 Dec 17 | 23:41:14 <@ecks>	Yep, postpone 2011 Dec 17 | 23:41:24 <@Jang|Away>	I haven't tried TOR yet. Do we wait/postpone? 2011 Dec 17 | 23:41:28 <@Jang|Away>	Yeah I guess :P 2011 Dec 17 | 23:41:36 <@Toprawa>	we would even if it was released just out of courtesy 2011 Dec 17 | 23:41:39 <@Toprawa>	to give the updater time to do it 2011 Dec 17 | 23:41:45 <@Jang|Away>	yeah beta is out 2011 Dec 17 | 23:41:48 <@Toprawa>	it's not fair if something was just released two days ago, for example 2011 Dec 17 | 23:41:48 <@Jang|Away>	I think 2011 Dec 17 | 23:41:54 <@Jujiggum>	Aye 2011 Dec 17 | 23:42:04 <@Jang|Away>	Yeah, true. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:42:24 <@Toprawa>	Ok, that's it for articles. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:42:31 <@Toprawa>	Anyone else have anything? 2011 Dec 17 | 23:42:38 <@Toprawa>	Or are there any further discussion items? 2011 Dec 17 | 23:42:42 <@Jujiggum>	Nothing more from me 2011 Dec 17 | 23:42:48 *	@ecks has nothing 2011 Dec 17 | 23:42:57 <@Jang|Away>	no, I just want to say thanks again for the reinvite. :) 2011 Dec 17 | 23:43:15 <@Toprawa>	:) 2011 Dec 17 | 23:43:23 <@Toprawa>	Ok, responsibilities: 2011 Dec 17 | 23:43:29 <@Toprawa>	Grunny is on paperwork 2011 Dec 17 | 23:43:34 <@Toprawa>	Kilson schedules next meeting 2011 Dec 17 | 23:43:45 <@ecks>	Oh, btw, there's an empty slot for next meeting's paperwork, I think 2011 Dec 17 | 23:43:53 <@ecks>	put Jang in there? :P 2011 Dec 17 | 23:43:55 <@Toprawa>	I can just do it. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:43:59 <@Toprawa>	Unless Jang wants to 2011 Dec 17 | 23:44:07 <@Toprawa>	Then we can create a new order for the next round 2011 Dec 17 | 23:44:16 <@Jang|Away>	Sure, I can do it 2011 Dec 17 | 23:44:20 <@Toprawa>	Ok, thanks Jang 2011 Dec 17 | 23:44:30 <@Toprawa>	Meeting 42 is hereby adjourned. Merry Christmas to everyone. 2011 Dec 17 | 23:44:31 <@Jang|Away>	np :) 2011 Dec 17 | 23:44:33 <@Jujiggum>	Cool 2011 Dec 17 | 23:44:36 <@ecks>	Happy holidays, people 2011 Dec 17 | 23:44:39 <@Jujiggum>	Cheers all 2011 Dec 17 | 23:44:49 <@ecks>	thanks for handling the meeting, Tope 2011 Dec 17 | 23:44:51 <@CavalierOne>	Merry Christmas! Ho ho ho!