Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations/Blair


 * ''The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a comprehensive article nomination that was successful. Please do not modify it.

Blair

 * Nominated by: Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 23:32, August 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:Sometimes you just gotta jump right in and do it. One edit on the page. Creation and CAnom all in one.

(2 ECs/3 Users/5 Total)
Support
 * 1)  Master Jonathan  &mdash; Jedi Council Chambers Saturday, August 13, 2011, 15:33 UTC
 * 2) Too bad the Wii version doesn't have the in-game databank...-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg  (Greetings)  02:10, August 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) *That's because the Wii version is crap. :p j/k Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 14:51, August 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I missed something. -- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  02:14, August 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Blair should get a story. I don't like one-off mentions of battles. I suggest waiting at least a day or so between writing and nomming. You will see things you missed. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 23:15, September 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) I guess I've held this up long enough. :P Check out my copy-edit to get an idea of the kinds of links you can add to articles. I also fixed one remaining instance of "he" and edited the BTS to account for the  nature of databank entries. Cheers. Menkooroo 14:28, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) Good job. Hanzo Hasashi 21:02, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) From the Council Chambers:
 * 2) * Is there enough information on the Battle of Slotern to determine its era? If so, then the appropriate Eras tag and an infobox should be used on this article.
 * 3) **All the databank says that could help determine an era is that they fought TIE fighters. But since TIE fighters were used in the Rise of the Empire era, Rebellion era, and so on, it's not really possible to determine an era.
 * 4) *That's all I've got.  Master Jonathan &mdash; Jedi Council Chambers Friday, August 12, 2011, 23:46 UTC
 * 5) **Thanks for the review. Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 00:56, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * 6) Exiled Jedi
 * 7) * You should create an infobox including information saying that he was a male.
 * 8) **The databank never really says that he was male. Since it's like he's talking, there isn't any "he" "his" or anything like that to go off. Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 15:05, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * 9) * I think you could probably create an article on his wingman.
 * 10) **Done.
 * 11) *Good work, Cal.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  03:19, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * 12) **Thanks for checking it out EJ. Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 15:05, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * 13) * I think that you probably could say that the era is the Rise of the Empire era, because that is when the game occurs and the entry would not have information about things that happen after the game. Just a thought, what do you thing of this reasoning? -- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  16:54, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * 14) **Seems solid enought.
 * 15) * Why don't you do the appearances section for this guy like you did for the Battle of Slotern? -- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  16:57, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * 16) **Done. Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 00:09, August 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 17) * Oops I missed something, you need to say in the body which era the article appeared in. -- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  02:13, August 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 18) **Got it. Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 20:42, August 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 19) Menkooroo
 * 20) * I agree with EJ's objection --- if he fought against the Empire, and the game takes place prior to 0 BBY, then "Rise of the Empire era" is appropriate for both an tag and an infobox.
 * 21) **I'm afraid that I kinda agree with leaving it out. But, if you think that it should be added, I request that we wait a couple of days before I add it so it doesn't end up like the discussion about the sourcing of the ANH noms below. :P If anyone has any objections about your opinion, than we can discuss it before I have to change it ten times. :P
 * 22) ***I'm not really sure why it should be left out. The game takes place in 1 BBY, so any reference to the Empire is necessarily in the Rise of the Empire era. Menkooroo 07:03, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * 23) ****Have you looked over the other TFU II noms below? The discussion was carried out through those, and at the end, EJ (who wanted the eras tag like you do) finally said that it should be left out. The main thing is that, even though TFU II happens in 1 BBY, we don't have confirmation that the databank was "compiled" before 1 BBY. Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 22:42, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * 24) *****I've been stewing over this for a while, but ultimately, I agree with Naru's reasoning here. I honestly can't imagine why the databank would be representative of any time period other than that of the game. Naru also brings up a good point about TFU1's databank being accessible from an IU computer. Menkooroo 05:49, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * 25) ******If others think we can say it is from the same timeframe, then it is fine with me, I just wasn't sure if we could say this without it being speculation. If you think its okay, then I will happily concede.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  16:55, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * 26) *******Taken care of, then.-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 00:21, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * 27) ********Something like "before or during 1 BBY" should be in the article body, too. Also, check out my one more objection below. Menkooroo 03:59, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * 28) *********Done.-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 12:42, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * 29) * I also think it would be a good idea to mention the resistance fighters in the first sentence. Currently, the first sentence kinda makes it seem like Blair fought single-handedly, and the second sentence mentions "the resistance fighters" as if the reader should already be familiar with them. Be careful of using "the" like that; similarly, "the initial attack by the TIES" might read better if "the" was replaced by "a," as it's being introduced for the first time.
 * 30) **I believe I fixed the first part, but I'm not sure about that last part. "the initial attack by the TIEs" I think should be left as is. It's not "an" initial attack. It is the "only" initial attack of the battle. What do you think?
 * 31) ***Yeah that's fine. However --- as we know that Blair is a member of the Resistance Fighters, that fact should probably be established in the first sentence independently of the battle, for chronological purposes. Eg, "Blair was a member of some resistance fighters. Before 1 BBY, they fought at the Battle of blah blah blah..." Also, I hate to be that guy, but it seems like an "Unidentified resistance group" article is in order... :/ Menkooroo 07:03, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * 32) ****See if I covered it. Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 22:57, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * 33) * Several other details are only implied when they really should be explicitly stated: That the battle is a space battle, that Blair is inside a starship. Menkooroo 16:26, September 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 34) **See how that works. Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 23:00, September 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 35) * Now that Blair's resistance fighters have their own article, an infobox should be included with "affiliation" filled out. Menkooroo 05:50, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * 36) **Got it. I believe I've updated all my TFUII noms for these objections. If I missed anything, let me know.-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 12:42, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * 37) One thing
 * 38) * You have Blair categorized as unidentified gender, and also no infobox, but call the character a male in the bio and behind the scenes. If the character's gender is indeed uncertain, then remove any mentions of Blair being male from the bio and BTS, and alternatively, if it's the reverse, then get rid of the unidentified gender category, replace with males, and add an infobox. I am assuming all gendered pronouns are a mistake, but leave it for you to fix it, in case I am mistaken. Hanzo Hasashi 02:30, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * 39) **Fixed.-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 00:21, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Comments
 * There's no infobox because I couldn't find any canon info to put in it besides his name. Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 23:33, August 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ready to archive. If nobody else does it, then I will do it myself some time tomorrow, can't be sure when though. Hanzo Hasashi 21:03, October 5, 2011 (UTC)