User talk:QuentinGeorge/Archive1

Welcome
QuentinGeorge,

I know I've already run into you on Talk:Monstross, but I just noticed that you hadn't been welcomed yet. -- Aidje 15:35, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Tonight
I guess you and I are the only beings on Earth not watching the movie at midnight, eh? -- Riffsyphon1024 05:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC) QuentinGeorge 05:57, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
 * My friend, I'm from Australia - its 4:00 pm Thursday... :) (but I won't see ROTS till Sat, I'm afraid)
 * LOL. My mistake. I forgot this was an international effort. I will also go Saturday, to the surprise of nearly 5000 members in another Star Wars group. -- Riffsyphon1024
 * I wish I could have gone on Thurs morn, but unfortunately, full-time job and hatred of crowds said otherwise... :) QuentinGeorge 06:01, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Then I was the only person on Earth with the chance to go and I didn't. -- Riffsyphon1024 23:20, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I know someone who could have gone at midnight, but is waiting a week or two instead. I don't know what his problem is&mdash;he is a fan, and was even asking me for spoilers on Sunday. So there are two of you freaks. :-) – Aidje talk 20:25, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Lovely work on Darsha Assant and Anoon Bondara pictures!
Greatly appreciated! --Imperialles 22:52, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks. QuentinGeorge 22:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Kavar

 * Who is Kavar and where did you get his info.?

Xenomaniac 19:45, 24 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Why, it's one of the Jedi masters from Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords! --Imperialles 20:39, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

QuentinGeorge!!!!
How am I ruining them? I'm fixing them! Sith are succeeded only by masters.
 * In Darth Bane's order, both apprentice and master hold the title of Dark Lord of the Sith. Therefore, both of them hold the title SIMULTANEOUSLY. How I had them before was correct. Also, stop changing Zannah to Darth Andonna or any other nonsense. Her Darth name has not be revealed yet. 21:19, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Reasoning!
You see, Sith Apprentices cannot be precceded, only Sith Masters. Either this, or Sith Apprentices should be preceeded by Sith Apprentices. Should I make a "Line of Sith" page, to help you understand, or do you get it? KFan II 21:31, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Stop...snorting...Ritalin. That is all--Eion 21:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
 * You are the one who has incomplete understanding. The title of Dark Lord of the Sith is a unique title only up until the time of Kaan. In Bane's order, both apprentice and master hold it simultaneously. Therefore, Maul, Tyranus and Vader all hold the title while their master Sidious holds it at the same time. QuentinGeorge 21:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Dear QuentinGeorge...
I know myself that you are not an admin of this wiki. SO STOP TRYING TO BOSS ME AROUND! Also, you have not responded to my reasoning. So please, mind your own business! The conversation/debate/arguement/pointless discussion on my talk page was between my and Fade. I know it doesn't say on Wookieepedia you can't inerrupt conversations, but its rude anyways. Cheerios. KFan II 20:41, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm not an admin, but I have an interest in making sure pages are correct. I don't need to respond to your reasoning, as this place is not a place to put your own fanon. It is for canon facts only. QuentinGeorge 21:02, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Quentin was stating the accepted rules. Also, it's not rude to add your thoughts on a topic that affects the whole population of the wiki. It is therefore his business, too. Now, going around pestering every user who has an offered an opinion on the subject and forcing your opinion on others is considered rude. Consider that, and you might become a slightly less frustrating person to deal with. --Fade 21:06, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Not Sith?
I was just looking at my Hethrir and Gethzerion pages and you have said that they are not Sith. Aren't the Nightsisters Sith Witches?, and as Hethrir was trained by Darth Vader he may have learned certain Sith secrets. --Darth Mantus 17:24, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Not all Dark Side users are Sith... --Imperialles 17:30, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * As Imperialles says, not all Dark Siders are Sith, just as not all force-users are Jedi. QuentinGeorge 05:56, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Pretty much the only Sith in the OT era are Vader and Sidious. Out of the rest, Jerec is probably the closest, since he was taught Sith secrets, and wears Sith tatoos, however he is not a true member of the order. QuentinGeorge 05:57, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

QuentinGeorge!
Why do you keep reverting my edits on the Sith Lords? If says so in the entry Dark Lord of the Sith that the title of Dark Lord of the Sith is taken by the master!
 * Did you actually read the article? The tradition of a sole Dark Lord of the Sith ends with Kaan. In the Brotherhood of Darkness there are multiple Dark Lords. In Darth Bane's order both Master and Apprentice have the title Dark Lord of the Sith. Do you understand now? QuentinGeorge 01:11, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Additionally - Bastila was pre-Kaan, and never a Master. Therefore, not a Dark Lord. Darth Maul/Darth Tyranus/Darth Vader were all post Bane, and so were Dark Lords. And finally Zannah and Darth Andeddu are TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. QuentinGeorge 01:13, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Note that 68.75.170.137 is also KFanII, so whenever you see it, you know. -- Riffsyphon1024 07:29, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Comic covers
Hey Q, you might want to check out this site. It has scans of all Star Wars comics, with much better quality than for example the Dark Horse site (and, no pesky little logo in the corner either). Use those if their size does not exceed 160 kb. --Imperialles 08:06, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Ah, Thanks! I was wondering what to do about that watermark. I'll replaced the one I just uploaded... QuentinGeorge 08:07, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, they don't have that particular issue, as it is quite new. Still a useful resource for most issues. --Imperialles 08:08, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

quick question, I'm sorry if I'm doing this wrong
Sorry, I am still new to Wiki. Is this the correct way to communicate with other members? If not, please tell me, I will feel really bad, if I am doing things the wrong way. Any way, quick question, did Darth Zannah die during her confrontation with her cousin on Ruuzhan (misspelled, sorry)? Feel free to contact me through my regular email: Thank you. Please delete my email address from your page after you read this please. And thank you again. -- Plagueis the Wise
 * Hey Plagueis! Yeah, talk pages are the place to contact individual members. The only thing you did wrong was not signing your post, which can be confusing. I took the liberty to do it for you. You can sign your name by typing in four tildes: ~ or pressing the signature button, which is second-to-right on the toolbar above the edit box.


 * No, Zannah did not die that day. --Imp 05:44, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I only ask all of these questions, because my partner and I are currently writing some extensive fan fiction, however, we wish our references to be 100% in line with Star Wars canon. Starting with Bane, the storyline encompasses the 1000 years of peace that the Old Republic enjoyed, and the (Rule of) Two Siths who hid in the shadows during this time leading up to Palpatine. I would love to have any number of Wookipedia members, including yourself, read the rough drafts to check for accuracy. Please let me know if you or anyone you know is interested. And thank you all for your assistance with my fact checking. Plagueis the Wise
 * All we know is that they fought, and "with deadly consequences". But its more likely that Darovit died. 59.167.63.94 06:07, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * That was me, PS. QuentinGeorge 06:19, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * And I deleted your email. Just communicate through the talk pages, mate. QuentinGeorge 06:26, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I am still terribly sorry, but I have absolutely no clue, nor can I find any information, on how to use "talk pages". Where does it explain how to use talk pages or how to communicate with one another?  I have no "talk" tabs anywhere, or any other tab or link that would indicate how to do this.  Again, I am terribly sorry for the inconvience that I am causing and my ignorance.  Thank you for all your assistance.  I will also return to this page to delete all of my stupid questions, once I figure this whole situation out. Plagueis the Wise 04:20, 28 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Calm down Plagueis. It is understood that you may not understand talk pages, but they are quite simple. All one has to do is go a person's talk page by hitting the tab at the top of the page next to the one that says user page (the page where a user puts there own stuff). The talk page is the primary means of communication and no email is needed to do so. You will learn with more experience. If you need help on other facets of Wiki-technology, visit Wikipedia which has many more pages detailing the software. -- Riffsyphon1024 04:28, 28 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Back to Zannah, so as far as canon history goes: Zannah is the only known apprentice of Bane? Is it ever clearly stated what happens to either of them? Is it for sure stated that she survived the battle against Darovit? And where did Bane end up?  Also, there are no other known Sith between Bane/Zannah and Plagueis/Sidious, correct?  Well, I actually I now see there is a Darth Milennial; do we know anything more about him?  Where in the timeline does he come in? Who was his master? Who came after him?

Ailyn Vel's birth date?
Hi QuentinGeorge. I've been working a little on the Ailyn Vel article, and I noticed you have marked her year of birth as 10 BBY. May I ask what was your source or how did you figure this out? I can't find this info anywhere. If there's any other sources of Ailyn Vel information anywhere, I would like to know about them :-) Cheers! --Azizlight 08:47, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * To be honest, I was trying to remember myself. I think it was the Timeline Gold, which probably was mere speculation. Feel free to remove (and remember to remove it from the 10 BBY page as well.) :) QuentinGeorge 08:54, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * As a side note, her birth definately occurs in the nineteen years between ROTS and ANH, and since Boba is 13 in ROTS, it's got to be at least 16 BBY, but most likely later. QuentinGeorge 08:55, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info. Yeah I better remove it as its just a guess really. I'll add this above info to her discussion page. Thanks. --Azizlight 09:07, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Author Images
Your uploading of all of these images for authors like Zahn, Hidalgo, and Pena is much appreciated. -- Riffsyphon1024 12:03, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * No probs. I thought the author pages were a little dry. QuentinGeorge 12:13, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Agreed. This entire process was much needed, and I hoped that we pulled out ahead of Wikipedia, before some sub-par articles on them were made there. Of course there's something about seeing people's faces that makes me happy. -- Riffsyphon1024 13:08, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Those reverts on Lumiya
You did what I was trying to do. I tried to revert everything that the anon had done, but then I realized that his IP had changed part way through, so I tried hitting the revert button again. This only reverted my previous revert. I had actually gone back in the history and was about to revert it properly when I got pulled away from my computer unexpectedly. When I got back, you had completed the task. Thanks, and I hope that clears up the confusion. – Aidje talk 06:46, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * I see you took care of Darth Vader and Palpatine as well while I was gone&mdash;those were my next targets. :-) Definitely an anon to watch&mdash;although I don't know how hard it would be to block him since his IP keeps changing. – Aidje talk 06:50, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * His main agenda seems to be removing Palpy's birthdate, taking Lumiya out of the Sith succession box and other random thingys. QuentinGeorge 06:51, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * That does make him pretty identifiable. – Aidje talk 07:16, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * So, to be clear, we do know Palpatine's birthdate, and we are putting Lumiya in the succession boxes on the Vader and Palpatine pages. Right?-LtNOWIS 22:59, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * We do know Palpy's birthdate. As for the succession boxes, I think SparqMan is pushing for those to be eliminated or replaced with something less controversial and confusing (at least for the Sith)&mdash;I don't know what the status is on that at the moment. For now, I'd say leave her in the box unless something different is agreed on through discussion. – Aidje talk 05:38, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

The marriage of Boba Fett and Sintas Vel
Hey :-) Sorry to be a pain about this, but here goes...

I'm still trying to find out how you figure that Boba Fett married Sintas Vel while he was Journeyman Protector of Concord Dawn - and thus Ailyn Vel's birth on Concord Dawn. This seems like the most likely scenario, and I would like to believe it, but does it come from an official source?

Sorry about this, feel free to mess up my talk-page at any time :-) --Azizlight 04:30, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * I believe this came from Abel G Pena himself. He confirmed that they were married, and that the only logical time for this to occur was Boba's "retirement" on Concord Dawn. (Where he was mistaken for Jaster Mereel. QuentinGeorge 06:32, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * I should perhaps clarify that this is not really "explictly" stated in any book, particularly since we hear very little of what Boba Fett was up to between his cameo in Last of the Jedi and when he reappears as "Jaster Mereel" on Concord Dawn. They were married, though, that much is stated in The History of the Mandalorians. QuentinGeorge 06:44, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah I know their marriage is official, but I was commenting on where they met, got married, had Ailyn. Your reasoning is flawless, but unfortunately its still unofficial speculation which can't really go on the main articles. :-( --Azizlight 14:07, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Picture
Unfortunately, that picture with the Ebon Hawk is from the First Battle (of which too little is known to make a separate article) not the Second. Inserted it into Onderon Civil War. I'll try to find a picture of something recognizable from the Second Battle. - Sikon 04:50, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Cool. Do we have an article on the First Battle then? Put it in there. QuentinGeorge 04:55, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Reading the article....are we sure they are two separate battles? Seems more like one continuous, albeit slightly interrupted, battle. From the perspective of the Queen it is. QuentinGeorge 04:57, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, they are two separate battles. Technically, the first battle ends before you enter the Mandalorian camp on Dxun for the first time, and the second begins when you visit all the other planets and are ready for a second trip to Dxun/Onderon. Sorry if the article leaves the question vague. - Sikon 05:05, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Are you sure? Sounds like the fighting continues on Onderon while the Exile jaunts around for a bit. QuentinGeorge 05:06, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * I suppose if anyone can be bothered enough to play KOTOR II again we'll find out. MarcK 05:10, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)

To clarify, this is how it goes from the player's perspective:
 * You select Onderon on the Ebon Hawk's galaxy map.
 * The ship arrives in the system, but Tobin's fighters fire at it. Soon, a space battle begins. Meanwhile, the Ebon Hawk lands on Dxun.
 * When you are exploring Dxun, Atton (busy repairing the ship) calls you and says the battle is over and the Republic fleet is vanquished.
 * When later you, with the Mandalorians' help, arrive on Onderon, Iziz seems quiet, the soldiers and turrets ignore you, etc. Your main objective is to contact Kavar.
 * When you finally contact Kavar, Tobin interrupts your meeting. The quarter is instantly flooded with hostile Vaklu soldiers in black masks, while in the next quarter the soldiers don't even understand what's going on when the turrets start firing at you. Mandalore (Canderous) tells you to leave Iziz until the situation changes.
 * You then continue your search for the Jedi Masters. After that the Mandalorians tell you to return to Dxun, and after your arrival they inform you about Vaklu's Sith reinforcements and the assault on the Royal Palace.

So, technically, the two battles are separated by the Exile's adventures on Onderon and (possibly) some other planets, if Onderon isn't your last planet. - Sikon 05:24, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Korunnai
Korunnai are NOT baseline humans. They are near-humans. Consult the WOTC article on Haruun Kal. They are called a subspecies of humans with an ability to survive exposure to toxic gases and all Force-sensitve, making them as near-human as Kiffar and Hapans.- JustinGann
 * Nope. Read the SW databank. Baseline humans. The WOTC article is incorrect - it actually even goes against several of the WOTC sourcebooks, the NEGTC, and countless other articles. Mace Windu and every other Korunnai is simply a force-sensitive human. QuentinGeorge 13:19, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Palpatine's age
Just wondering - where did you get the updated birthdate for Palpatine from? People with the Episode I Visual Dictionary are claiming they can't find it. Thanks. &mdash; Silly Dan 03:34, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * It's not the VD, it's the Episode I Insiders Guide. QuentinGeorge 05:57, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)