Wookieepedia:AC/Log/2018 September 22

[20:03:44]  Alrighty then, time for tea and cake [20:03:53]  Welcome all to Agricorps Meeting 108 [20:04:13]  Whew, just finished my taco. :P [20:04:36]  As per usual we'll start with the usual suspects from last meeting [20:04:50]  First up is my own 4D6-J-A7 [20:04:58]  https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/4D6-J-A7 [20:05:12]  https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7848204 [20:05:18]  https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/4D6-J-A7 [20:05:36]  Please note on the review page if you fix a probation issue, people [20:05:37]  I took care of the issue prior to the probe being added [20:05:53]  Ah sorry, I'd added it to the meeting page but forgot to add it to the probe [20:06:17]  per Tope. keep [20:06:19]  Keep [20:06:27] Keep [20:06:35]  kill, errrr, keep :P [20:06:37]  Keep [20:06:53]  Alright then, 4D6-J-A7 [20:07:04] <Ayrehead02> kept [20:07:34] <Ayrehead02> BB-23 Blaster Cannon [20:07:35] <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/BB-23_heavy_blaster_cannon [20:07:43] <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7808158 [20:07:49] <Imperators> ByeBye blaster cannon? [20:07:53] <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/BB-23_heavy_blaster_cannon [20:08:07] <Imperators> instakill [20:08:08] <Ayrehead02> Looks that way [20:08:17] <Ayrehead02> Kill [20:08:17] <MasterFred> yeah, no changes, kill [20:08:20] Kill [20:08:26] <Toprawa> Kill [20:08:35] <Imperators> ecks votes KILL [20:08:39] <Ayrehead02> Alright BB-23 killed [20:08:47] <Ayrehead02> I'm sure BB-8 will mourn [20:09:00] <Imperators> BB-8 heavy blaster cannon [20:09:13] <Imperators> in Episode IX, people [20:09:17] <Ayrehead02> Next is the Seismic activity team [20:09:18] <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Seismic_activity_team [20:09:25] <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7848205 [20:09:34] <Imperators> which is not the Fred's thing, right [20:09:40] <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Seismic_activity_team [20:09:58] <MasterFred> I had a mini heart attack when I first saw "seismic" on the meeting page. haha [20:10:00] <Toprawa> Kill [20:10:04] <MasterFred> But nay, it is not mine. [20:10:05] <Ayrehead02> No change [20:10:05] <MasterFred> kill [20:10:06] <Ayrehead02> Kill [20:10:09] Kill [20:10:14] <Imperators> seismic activity team does not detect any changes to the article. kill [20:10:17] <Imperators> ecks votes KILL [20:10:41] <Ayrehead02> RIP the seismic activity team, killed [20:11:00] <Ayrehead02> The final old article: Vob Bitas [20:11:01] <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vob_Bitas [20:11:11] <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Vob_Bitas [20:11:17] <Toprawa> Lo;; [20:11:21] <Imperators> bye Bob [20:11:24] <Toprawa> That was supposed to be Kill [20:11:34] <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7848203 [20:11:37] <MasterFred> Lo;; [20:11:38] Kill [20:11:38] <Imperators> kill [20:11:40] <Imperators> ecks kill [20:11:41] <Ayrehead02> Lo;; [20:11:47] <Ayrehead02> (Kill) [20:11:52] <MasterFred> Kill :P [20:12:08] <Ayrehead02> Vob Bitas is kill [20:12:20] <Toprawa> heh [20:12:28] <Ayrehead02> Onto the new stuff [20:12:36] <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Xor [20:12:45] <Ayrehead02> Verify the last sentence in the behind the scenes, which an anon had added and it went overlooked for more than 2 years at this point. Behind the scenes already not fully cited. See if anything more reliable than IMDB says Neil Kaplan voiced Xor. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 13:42, September 10, 2018 [20:12:49] <Ayrehead02> Oops [20:12:55] <Ayrehead02> Verify the last sentence in the behind the scenes, which an anon had added and it went overlooked for more than 2 years at this point. [20:13:00] <Ayrehead02> Behind the scenes already not fully cited. [20:13:07] <Ayrehead02> See if anything more reliable than IMDB says Neil Kaplan voiced Xor. [20:13:32] <Imperators> yes hi probe [20:13:37] <Toprawa> Probe [20:13:39] Probe [20:13:40] <Ayrehead02> Probe [20:13:43] <MasterFred> probe [20:13:58] <Ayrehead02> Xor probed [20:14:21] <Ayrehead02> Next is one of my own sadly: Langoonan [20:14:33] <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Langoonan [20:14:35] <Imperators> how dare you [20:14:40] <Ayrehead02> The 1 BBY date needs a proper reference. [20:14:47] <Ayrehead02> I'm guessing this is probably poor extrapolation, since the story likely only says that Durga considered the masks a treasure, not that "certain Hutts" did. Am I wrong? "Langoonan deathmasks had become valuable pieces of art, at least for certain Hutts..." [20:15:09] <Ayrehead02> I'd meant to fix this today, but my laptop broke so I'll have to get it after the probe [20:15:12] <Ayrehead02> Probe [20:15:17] <Toprawa> Probe [20:15:25] Probe [20:15:30] <MasterFred> probe [20:15:48] <Imperators> Imp ecks probe [20:15:50] <Ayrehead02> Langoonan probed, I feel so violated [20:16:05] <Ayrehead02> Next is Rotar Lopani [20:16:06] <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rotar_Lopani [20:16:13] <Ayrehead02> The HNN articles cannot be used to properly source the 22 BBY date, as they only use GrS. The conversion from GrS to BBY needs to be explained in a reference note. [20:16:17] <Toprawa> Probe [20:16:21] <Ayrehead02> Probe [20:16:26] Probe [20:16:38] <Imperators> probe [20:16:42] <MasterFred> probe [20:16:54] <Ayrehead02> Rotar Lopani probed [20:17:10] <Ayrehead02> Next is Mak Luunim [20:17:16] <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mak_Luunim [20:17:27] <Ayrehead02> Please verify whether Rebel Force can be used as source for the 0 ABY date [20:17:28] <Ayrehead02> Redlink [20:17:33] <Ayrehead02> Unsourced BTS [20:17:42] <Ayrehead02> BTS "canon" wording needs to be updated to reflect Legends terminology [20:17:43] <Ayrehead02> Probe [20:17:48] <MasterFred> probe [20:17:58] <Imperators> Imp ecks probe [20:18:02] <Toprawa> Probe [20:18:02] Probe [20:18:15] <Ayrehead02> Mak Luunim probed [20:18:43] <Ayrehead02> Now one of Cades: Skirmish at the ancient shrine [20:18:44] <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Skirmish_at_the_ancient_shrine [20:18:51] <Ayrehead02> Certainly an image can be found for the Aftermath section? [20:18:57] <Ayrehead02> BTS is improperly referenced. The game's start date can't be sourced to Star Wars: The Old Republic [20:18:57] <Toprawa> Probe [20:19:00] <Ayrehead02> Probe [20:19:02] <MasterFred> Probe [20:19:11] Probe (yes another image should be pretty easy) [20:19:33] <Imperators> the infobox prev field and the navbox don't match [20:19:35] <Imperators> probe [20:20:04] <Ayrehead02> Skirmish at the ancient shrine probed, you think of all people Cade could have properly referenced a TOR BTS [20:20:14] <Ayrehead02> Next is Kep-She [20:20:15] <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kep-She/Legends [20:20:21] <Ayrehead02> Behind the scenes not cited. [20:20:44] <Ayrehead02> This seems like a pretty easy fix tbh [20:21:03] <Ayrehead02> Although the final sentence of the BTS should be cut anyway [20:21:09] <Imperators> cut the last sentence of BTS [20:21:29] <MasterFred> ^ [20:21:37] <Ayrehead02> The rest can be referenced to the Episode Guide from what I can see [20:21:40] <Toprawa> I'd like to see a TV air date for the episode [20:21:45] <Toprawa> Which isn't so easy to source [20:21:49] <Ayrehead02> Fair enough [20:21:50] <Toprawa> That requires the TCW guide or whatever [20:21:52] <Ayrehead02> Probe then [20:21:58] <Toprawa> Probe [20:22:00] Probe [20:22:01] <MasterFred> Probe [20:22:02] <Imperators> good observation, Tope [20:22:03] <Imperators> probe [20:22:08] <Ayrehead02> Kep-She probed [20:22:38] <Ayrehead02> My word Hanzo's been keen this month [20:22:43] <Ayrehead02> Next is Kebla Yurt [20:22:43] <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kebla_Yurt [20:23:00] <Ayrehead02> Infobox exclusive info [20:23:08] <Ayrehead02> First BTS paragraph has no ref [20:23:08] <Ayrehead02> Verify if The Taris Holofeed: Invasion Edition is a valid source for the 3963 BBY citation. [20:23:15] <Imperators> if those ref notes are necessary at all, they have to be thoroughly linked [20:23:24] <Toprawa> Probe [20:23:29] <Imperators> the existing 3956 BBY ref has to be a manual ref note [20:23:43] <Ayrehead02> They look pretty unnecessary to me [20:23:48] <Ayrehead02> Probe [20:23:56] Probe [20:24:03] <Imperators> what, no images for the body? really? [20:24:04] <Imperators> probe [20:24:12] <Imperators> ecks angrily votes probe [20:24:16] <MasterFred> prob [20:24:17] <MasterFred> e [20:24:31] <Ayrehead02> Kebla Yurt probed [20:24:37] <Ayrehead02> Next is Batle of Kirrek [20:24:48] <Ayrehead02> But the question is which, the link is to a disambig [20:24:50] <Ayrehead02> Hang on [20:24:51] <Imperators> haha [20:24:57] <Imperators> probe that sucker [20:25:08] <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Kirrek_(Unification_Wars) [20:25:22] <Ayrehead02> Fix redirects [20:25:31] <Ayrehead02> BTS unsourced [20:25:39] <Ayrehead02> 5000 BBY needs proper referencing [20:25:40] <Toprawa> Ayrehead, you can copy all the bulleted items and paste them at once [20:25:46] <Toprawa> I think you're doing it individually [20:25:47] <Ayrehead02> "The battle" section would benefit from four smaller paragraphs instead of two, which will allow for another image. Subsectioning from there may also be ideal, which will allow for another quote. [20:26:06] <Toprawa> Probe [20:26:11] Probe [20:26:13] <Ayrehead02> Yeah, sorry I'm a little slow, I'm on a friend's laptop with a weird layout [20:26:14] <MasterFred> Probe [20:26:17] <Ayrehead02> Probe [20:26:26] <Imperators> the body image is too small and I think there's too few of them overall [20:26:29] <Imperators> probe [20:26:39] <Ayrehead02> Battle of Kirrek probed [20:26:39] <Imperators> I mean, the thumbnail is too small [20:27:00] <MasterFred> Tope's suggested subsectioning would make it easier to add a couple more images. [20:27:07] <Toprawa> No one's gonna fix that shit anyways :P [20:27:12] <MasterFred> XD [20:27:24] <Toprawa> TOTJ is like sooooo 2007 :P [20:27:24] <Imperators> oh, sorry, didn't read Tope's stuff :P [20:27:35] <Ayrehead02> Next, to the surprise of absolutely no one: Sith cave is needs an Redux [20:27:50] <Imperators> ecks votes kill [20:27:51] <Ayrehead02> *is in need of a Redux [20:27:53] <Toprawa> He added 2000+ new bytes of stuff [20:28:00] <Toprawa> Redux [20:28:05] <Imperators> Redux [20:28:09] <MasterFred> looooooooooool [20:28:11] <MasterFred> redux [20:28:15] <Imperators> exile it [20:28:17] <Ayrehead02> And it looks like it's going to appear in the next issue of Vader as well [20:28:25] Redux [20:28:29] <Ayrehead02> I imagine this'll end up as an FA, but for now [20:28:30] <Ayrehead02> Redux [20:28:34] <Toprawa> Probably [20:28:38] <Imperators> send all canon to Redux [20:28:46] <Ayrehead02> Noooo [20:28:58] <Ayrehead02> Sith cave sent to Redux [20:29:18] <Ayrehead02> Next is Adana [20:29:18] <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_cave [20:29:24] <Ayrehead02> Infobox exclusive info [20:29:33] <Ayrehead02> Probe [20:29:43] <Imperators> get better at linking, Ayre [20:29:56] <Ayrehead02> Oops [20:30:10] <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Adana_(Human) [20:30:11] <Toprawa> Probe [20:30:16] <MasterFred> Probe [20:30:22] <Imperators> the existing 3951 BBY ref has to be a manual ref note [20:30:30] <Imperators> ecks votes probe, and I agree [20:30:34] Probe [20:30:47] <Ayrehead02> Adana probed [20:30:52] <Ayrehead02> Now for Lucia [20:30:53] <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lucia_(soldier) [20:31:00] <Ayrehead02> Redlink BTS unsourced Infobox-exclusive information This portion of the P/T really belongs in a Skills and abilities section and/or Equipment section: Although Lucia was one of the youngest members of the Gloom Walkers, she was recognized as one of the best shots in the unit, and she carried a TC-17 sniper rifle into battle. The BTS should note the source and artist for the character's first illustration Personal [20:31:36] <Imperators> image thumbnails look Monobook-ish [20:31:45] <Imperators> get better at pasting, Ayre :P [20:31:48] <Toprawa> Probe [20:31:59] <Ayrehead02> Probe [20:32:03] <Imperators> also, more images pls [20:32:05] Probe [20:32:14] <Imperators> imp probe ecks probe [20:32:16] <MasterFred> Probe [20:32:23] <Toprawa> You didn't paste it all, though [20:32:34] <Toprawa> Personal note: If anyone is serious about fixing this article, you might as well just take it to FAN, as it's well over 1000 words but was nominated before the GAN began prohibiting 1000-word nominations. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 15:11, September 17, 2018 (UTC) [20:32:41] <Ayrehead02> Weirdly I did, but it got cut off [20:32:42] <Toprawa> Hoping someone will see that in the potentiality [20:32:42] <Imperators> oh, also mention the in BTS [20:32:57] <Ayrehead02> Lucia probed [20:33:24] <Ayrehead02> Now for three more canon articles to sate Imperator's bloodlust [20:33:33] <Ayrehead02> First up: https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nightsister_crystal_ball [20:33:36] <Imperators> that's all Tope [20:33:36] <Toprawa> That's why I'm an AC [20:33:40] <Toprawa> To state Imperator's bloodlust [20:33:45] <Toprawa> sate* [20:33:46] <Ayrehead02> Reference 16. This is not self-sourcing. Steps Into Shadow taking place in 2 BBY needs to be sourced to something: "The events of the Star Wars Rebels episode 'Visions and Voices,' which includes Maul's possession of the Nightsister crystal ball, take place after Star Wars Rebels: Steps Into Shadow, the first-known episode to take place in the second year before the Battle of Yavin." Additionally, there is no rea [20:34:13] Something got cut off again. [20:34:18] <Ayrehead02> *ce note [20:34:24] <Ayrehead02> This laptop is awful [20:34:28] <Toprawa> I can just do it [20:34:31] <Toprawa> Because I want to explain these anyways [20:34:41] <Ayrehead02> I have no idea why there's a character limit on copy and paste [20:34:41] <Toprawa> Starting over: [20:34:44] <Toprawa> Star Wars Rebels. The following Star Wars Rebels articles utilize unsatisfactory methods of date-referencing their respective events: [20:34:47] <Ayrehead02> Thanks Tope, sory [20:34:49] <Toprawa> No problem [20:35:05] <Toprawa> For the record, each of these three Rebels articles rely on this Senate Hall thread to do their sourcing for them [20:35:22] <Toprawa> Like we're supposed to open up this SH forum and read through a bunch of discussion to try and understand why something falls in 2 BBY or whatever [20:35:34] <Toprawa> That needs to be explained in the ref note, not linked to in a SH forum [20:35:40] <Toprawa> Nightsister crystal ball — Reference 16. This is not self-sourcing. Steps Into Shadow taking place in 2 BBY needs to be sourced to something: "The events of the Star Wars Rebels episode 'Visions and Voices,' which includes Maul's possession of the Nightsister crystal ball, take place after Star Wars Rebels: Steps Into Shadow, the first-known episode to take place in the second year before the Battle of Yavin. [20:35:41] <Toprawa> " Additionally, there is no reason to ever link to a Senate Hall thread in a reference. If there's something in that SH that's being used to source this information, then that needs to be explained in this reference note. [20:36:05] <Toprawa> That's all for that one [20:36:20] <Ayrehead02> Probe [20:36:26] <Toprawa> Probe [20:36:40] <MasterFred> Yeah, I hate Rebels date referencing. [20:36:44] <MasterFred> Probe [20:36:46] Probe [20:36:48] <Imperators> probe ecks probe [20:37:00] <Toprawa> Nightsister crystal ball probed [20:37:08] <Toprawa> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Attack_on_Imperial_interrogator_droids [20:37:13] <Imperators> the next one is just terrible [20:37:14] <Toprawa> Reference 2. All of the "unknown" phrasing is particularly poor wording for a reference note. "...the animated television series Star Wars Rebels begins five years before the Battle of Yavin" is not self-sourcing and requires a reference. Additionally, formal writing should never use first- or second-person, such as I, you, or we. "We" aren't doing anything. The article is. [20:37:49] <Toprawa> And the publication date in the BTS can't be sourced to the book either [20:37:53] <Toprawa> Just noticed that [20:38:20] <Imperators> probe [20:38:23] <Toprawa> Probe [20:38:26] Probe [20:38:33] <MasterFred> Probe, and let’s delete that Rebels SH thread. :P [20:38:36] <Ayrehead02> Probe [20:38:46] <Toprawa> Attack on Imperial interrogator droids probed [20:38:49] <Toprawa> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/PM-1203 [20:38:54] <Toprawa> PM-1203. References 11 and 12. "...Star Wars Rebels: Spark of Rebellion, which takes place in the fifth year before the Battle of Yavin; and "Empire Day," which marks the beginning of the fourth year before the Battle of Yavin." and ""Empire Day," which marks the beginning of the fourth year before the Battle of Yavin; and "A Princess on Lothal," which is the first known episode to take place in the third year before the [20:38:54] <Toprawa> Battle of Yavin." are not self-sourcing statements. Additionally, there is no reason to ever link to a Senate Hall thread in a reference. If there's something in that SH that's being used to source this information, then that needs to be explained in this reference note." Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:51, September 21, 2018 (UTC) [20:39:18] <Imperators> FWIW, the ref notes are also underlinked [20:39:20] <Imperators> probe [20:39:24] <Toprawa> I might have messed something up in that text [20:39:43] <Toprawa> But I think you guys get the gist [20:39:44] <Imperators> you were just too angry at the moment :P [20:39:51] Probe [20:39:53] <Toprawa> haha [20:39:57] <Toprawa> Probe [20:39:58] <MasterFred> Probe [20:40:00] <Ayrehead02> Probe [20:40:13] <Toprawa> PM-1203 probed [20:40:19] <Toprawa> That's all for the list. [20:40:21] <Toprawa> Back to Ayrehead [20:40:25] <Ayrehead02> Alright then, onto the maintenance bin [20:40:26] <Imperators> dammit, an astro article again [20:40:48] <Toprawa> you stupid astro droids [20:40:55] <Imperators> yes hi [20:41:21] <Ayrehead02> Looks like Coruscant Fan has gotten lax [20:41:24] <Ayrehead02> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Coruscant_Underworld_Police?t=20180921050428 [20:41:30] <MasterFred> Ok, gotta get ready. I’ll try and keep an eye on the laptop so I can reply, but might be delayed. [20:41:33] <Imperators> how do you guys dig the new redlinks section of the maintenance bin [20:41:35] <Ayrehead02> The CPU has a redlink problem [20:41:36] <MasterFred> Don’t wait up if I take too long [20:41:58] <Ayrehead02> Looks damn good to me Imperators [20:42:01] <Toprawa> Fix redirects in addition to redlink [20:42:06] <Toprawa> Unsourced BTS portions [20:42:26] <Toprawa> Whatever backup link he's using for the episode guide can't source the episode's airdate [20:42:35] <Toprawa> TCW should always just use the TCW Episode Guide for those [20:43:05] <Toprawa> Probe [20:43:07] <Ayrehead02> Probe [20:43:08] Probe [20:43:33] <Imperators> there's something missing... there's two s, but only one of them is covered in BTS, I think [20:43:34] <Imperators> probe [20:43:37] <Imperators> ecks probe [20:43:42] <MasterFred> Probe [20:43:45] <Ayrehead02> Underworld Police Probed [20:43:53] <Imperators> also format the Appearances list [20:44:01] <Ayrehead02> Anyone got anything else? [20:44:04] <Imperators> i.e., the noncanonical ones [20:44:05] <Imperators> sorry [20:44:19] <Imperators> not from me [20:44:56] <Toprawa> Nope [20:45:16] I don't have anything. [20:45:24] <MasterFred> Nay [20:45:49] There were some discussion items on the meeting page though. [20:45:52] <Imperators> actually [20:45:52] <Ayrehead02> In that case it's on to discussion [20:45:59] <Imperators> one sec pls [20:46:09] <Imperators> this bothers me: https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Numa%27s_father%2FLegends&diff=7747107&oldid=7535728 [20:46:35] <Imperators> is anyone seeing where the guy is mentioned on Encyclopedia? [20:46:51] <Toprawa> Yes [20:46:52] <Toprawa> One second... [20:47:06] <Toprawa> Lewis showed me this, I think [20:47:47] <Ayrehead02> It's in relationships [20:47:55] <Ayrehead02> But you have to click on Numa's picture to bring it up [20:48:02] <Toprawa> Yeah, I don't know if the text still shows up [20:48:04] <Toprawa> But it's in the page source [20:48:07] <Ayrehead02> It does for me [20:48:09] <Toprawa> " Numa lived in the city of Nabat on the planet Ryloth during the Clone Wars. After the Separatists invaded Ryloth, killing Numa's parents, she was able to avoid capture and lived in the abandoned city and the tunnel system underneath it until being rescued by a pair of Republic clone troopers. " [20:48:32] <Imperators> ugh [20:48:43] <Imperators> I feel like that should be mentioned somehow, don't you? [20:48:56] <Ayrehead02> In the article? [20:49:02] <Imperators> i.e., the reader should be warned that it's not bullshit [20:49:15] <Toprawa> It does still show up for me in the Relationships [20:49:28] <Ayrehead02> Seems unnecessary to me [20:49:36] <Toprawa> I feel like it's kind of unnecessary too [20:49:38] <Ayrehead02> I guess you could put in a hidden note or something [20:49:42] <Toprawa> It's really just matter of reading through the whole page [20:49:56] <Toprawa> If it didn't show up because of Archive, that would be one thing [20:49:59] <Toprawa> But it's all there [20:50:11] <Imperators> okay, I'll let this one go, then [20:50:21] <Imperators> thanks for bearing with me, though [20:50:26] <Ayrehead02> No worries [20:50:31] <Toprawa> It's cool [20:50:31] <Ayrehead02> Anything else before discussion? [20:50:47] <Toprawa> noop [20:50:57] <Imperators> let's do Discussions [20:51:01] <Ayrehead02> Alrighty then [20:51:24] <Ayrehead02> Tope, the floor is yours [20:51:40] <Toprawa> Yeah, we had a paperwork mishap from last meeting, which Fred is free to weigh in on here if he chooses since it involved him [20:51:52] <Toprawa> Ironically, we just had this same issue with the Inq two meetings ago [20:52:02] <Toprawa> And we instituted a new rule for these types of situations [20:52:07] <Toprawa> Which I will now post from that Inqmoot [20:52:16] <Toprawa> The Inquisitorius voted to establish the following rule — The Inquisitorius member assigned paperwork duty has one week from the end of the meeting to complete the paperwork. If it's not done by then, they're responsible for doing the next meeting's paperwork, in addition to completing the last meeting's paperwork. [20:52:27] <Toprawa> I propose we adopt this rule for the AC as well [20:52:40] <Imperators> heck, we need to do Inq and AC rule updates simultaneously :P [20:53:01] <Ayrehead02> Pretty much [20:53:09] <Ayrehead02> I support this [20:53:13] It makes to have this rule for the AC as well. [20:53:14] <Toprawa> Just to reiterate, the paperwork needs to be done quickly for two reasons: [20:53:22] <MasterFred> I believe I’ve already said my piece to everyone individually. I’ll say it here for the record. Sorry, for the mishap and the inconvenience it caused. I am volunteering to do this meeting’s and next meeting’s paperwork to make up for it. [20:53:34] <Toprawa> 1) As a courtesy to people whose articles are being probed, because they aren't following the meeting page to see what's going on [20:54:17] <Toprawa> and 2) To give sufficient time for the next meeting to be scheduled. The next meeting can't be scheduled until the paperwork is done, and two weeks are required for minimum probation time [20:54:24] <Toprawa> So in order to have a monthly meeting, people need to do the paperwork on time [20:54:32] <Imperators> ~support [20:54:34] <Toprawa> Support [20:54:38] <Ayrehead02> support [20:54:46] support [20:54:48] <MasterFred> Support [20:55:30] <Imperators> so fred does all the paperwork from now? :D [20:55:34] <Imperators> *now on [20:55:59] <Toprawa> We'll update the paperwork chart to reflect this [20:56:29] <Toprawa> (Waiting for Ayrehead to tabulate) [20:56:30] <Ayrehead02> Motion passes, 5 to 0 [20:56:56] I'm going to have to head out. Tope has my vote for any other discussion items. If no one else does, I will post the log when I get back. [20:57:01] <Imperators> dammit, ecks forgot to vote. He'd have supported the motion. [20:57:03] <Toprawa> Thanks, EJ. See you later [20:57:03] <Imperators> :P [20:57:06] * You are now known as exiledjedi|away [20:57:13] <Ayrehead02> Thanks EJ [20:57:22] <Ayrehead02> Tope, your second item? [20:57:34] * Imperators (~Imperator@wookieepedia/administrator/Imperators) has left ("Leaving") [20:57:43] <Toprawa> um... [20:57:49] <Ayrehead02> Hmm [20:58:00] <Toprawa> I guess I'll give him a second to see if he returns [20:58:21] <Ayrehead02> Do we have enough votes to pass anything without him? [20:58:27] <Toprawa> He's in the main channel :P [20:58:38] <Ayrehead02> Huh weird [20:58:48] * Imperators (~Imperator@wookieepedia/administrator/Imperators) has joined [20:58:48] * ChanServ gives channel operator status to Imperators [20:58:51] <Toprawa> Hooray [20:58:52] <Imperators> sorry about that [20:58:58] <Ayrehead02> Nice [20:59:00] <Toprawa> We recently encountered an...oversight in the Redux page's functionality [20:59:12] <Imperators> yay let's fix oversight [20:59:18] <Toprawa> There is no stated procedure, either on the page itself or in the instructions page, for how to remove failed Reduxed articles [20:59:50] <Toprawa> When a Redux reaches 3 weeks of inactivity, in the past we've opted to unilaterally remove it and we've also voted on it [20:59:51] <MasterFred> I’m headed out, too. [21:00:08] <Toprawa> Given that Redux is an extension of the AC meeting, it's logical that we vote on removing idle articles from that page [21:00:10] <Ayrehead02> Seeya, enjoy the wedding [21:00:14] <Toprawa> 3 votes should be sufficient [21:00:34] <Toprawa> I propose adding a new rule stating that 3 votes are required to remove failed articles from the Redux page [21:00:39] <Toprawa> I support, as does EJ [21:00:55] <Ayrehead02> Wait, votes on the Redux page, or votes in a meeting? [21:01:03] <Toprawa> On the Redux page [21:01:07] <Ayrehead02> Ah cool [21:01:08] <Ayrehead02> Support [21:01:28] <Toprawa> Example: https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Mikkian [21:01:34] <Toprawa> We recently voted to remove this one to establish this new precedent [21:02:19] <Toprawa> Please vote, people, so we can be done [21:02:26] <Imperators> sorry [21:02:27] <Imperators> support [21:02:36] <Toprawa> does ecks support? [21:02:54] <Ayrehead02> Be weird if he didn't [21:02:59] <Imperators> yes he does [21:03:03] <Toprawa> Hooray [21:03:12] <Ayrehead02> Motion passes, 5 to 0 [21:03:25] <Ayrehead02> And with that, I believe we are done [21:03:34] <Imperators> but did EJ support it? :P [21:04:07] <Ayrehead02> <@Toprawa> I support, as does EJ [21:04:25] <Toprawa> C'mon, man [21:04:28] <Ayrehead02> With that, I believe we're done, unless we wanted to discuss any new membershio [21:04:29] <Toprawa> This meeting's stale :P [21:04:41] <Imperators> let's do duties [21:04:48] <Imperators> frd does everything forever [21:04:51] <Ayrehead02> Ah good point [21:04:57] <Ayrehead02> He actually does in this case [21:05:02] <Ayrehead02> He's on scheduling and paperwork [21:05:06] <Imperators> hahahaha [21:05:11] <Imperators> Fredwin