Talk:Star Wars: Episode VII The Force Awakens

What do you mean it's been in production for several months?
"Star Wars Episode VII has already been in development for several months as of the Disney–Lucasfilm merger." The merger happened about a week before the U.S. Presidential election. That's barely one month, not several! 98.212.98.58 01:56, November 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * The movies have been in planning since before Celebration VI in August. Cade   Calrayn  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 02:15, November 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * We can also make the general inference that planning went back at least to the hiring of Kathleen Kennedy on June 1, since she was pretty much brought in for the sole purpose of producing this new film trilogy. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:14, November 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not to mention, also, that a week after the Disney announcement we learned that Michael Arndt had already turned in a 40-to-50-page pre-script, meaning he was most likely working on that over the course of several months leading up to the merger. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:18, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Kasdan and Kinberg not writing VIII and IX
I just read that Lawrence Kasdan and Simon Kinberg are signed on to write for upcoming Star Wars films but not Episodes VIII and IX. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/post-george-lucas-star-wars-394910 there is a link to the source. Matt Seay (talk) 22:16, December 3, 2012 (UTC)

Again

 * And yet again info is added without any official confirmation (yet). --Sompeetalay (talk) 17:37, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Frank Oz also interested in returning
The voice of Yoda confirms that, like several other actors listed on this page, has expressed willingness to reprise his role. Worthy of an add? 71.251.174.101 22:23, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

EDIT: I tried to post a link confirming this, but Wookieepedia's spam filter won't allow me to. 71.251.174.101 22:23, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

Cannon Override
The sites say the film will be about Luke defeating the empire 30 years after the Battle of Endor but the New Republic has made peace with it and become the Galactic Alliance? Will the film be off cannon or if trying to be then fans will reject the synopses and the writers of the New Republic era and the New Jedi Order era will likely support their protest? --58.7.168.197 09:56, February 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Please pay attention to the headers at the top of the page. Specifically, the one that flat-out states: "WE DON'T KNOW ANY MORE DETAILS ABOUT STAR WARS EPISODES VII, VIII, or IX THAN YOU DO. PLEASE STOP ASKING." &mdash; DigiFluid(Whine here) 13:57, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

What I stated is not what I've read, it is what I've herd. --58.7.168.197 04:52, February 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * If it wasn't on StarWars.com, it's not concretely confirmed, and is either a rumor or&hellip;as far as plot details go, a rumor. Look there. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 05:04, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

It is stated on the article of the Sequel Trilogy that it would have nothing to do with the EU beyond the Battle of Endor and the empire are still the antagonist. --124.148.127.77 12:04, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

Johnny Williams
I know that he has not been confirmed to do the music for Episode VII, but since the Mark Hamil, Carrie Fisher and Star Wars actors have shown interest in returning and they have been mentioned in this article, added by me by the way, why should John Williams not be mentioned in the article as showing interest? Matt Seay (talk) 15:37, February 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * I can't speak for whomever may have removed that (it wasn't me), but Lucas has at least met with the big three to talk about Episode VII. The same can't be said for John Williams. That seems like a logical reason for him not to be included in the article, to say nothing of the fact that Abrams generally collaborates with Michael Giacchono. &mdash; DigiFluid(Whine here) 16:47, February 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * We've got to think of this as though it were already complete while we update it. If the movie were already out and I were working on the development section, I would mention anyone from the original works that I knew had shown interest. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 16:56, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

If someone can find a source for a quote from him as I have for the actors then maybe we should put it in, right now it is just speculation and such. I would be nice if Johnny came back for future movies but he had made a statement during the recording of the score for Revenge of the Sith that ,"I have spent the better part of 30 years doing these movies and it is a sad but pleasing thing to end my musical journey here." Matt Seay (talk) 17:01, February 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * I've added and sourced the info. MasterFred Commerce Guild.svg(Whatever) 17:17, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

Alright cool. I think it is okay if we put that people have interest in being part of the production as long as their is a valid source for it. Matt Seay (talk) 18:14, February 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Of course it's okay. It's relevant info about the topic. MasterFred Commerce Guild.svg(Whatever) 19:21, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

EU Writers weigh in
I have a link here to an inbterview with several EU writers and their thoughts and hopes for the new films. Here it is, http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/scifi/star-wars-expanded-universe-writers-discuss-trilogy.html let me know what is worth putting in the article if anything is worth it. Matt Seay (talk) 16:16, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

What?!! Will have a crossover between Star Wars and Star Trek? Have someone who can explain this? PH Star Wars (talk) 00:35, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Explanation? Sure. Disney. That's the explanation for everything with Star Wars now-a-days.&mdash; Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 00:36, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

Is this section in relation to the Cannon Override section? --58.7.73.157 04:18, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Umm....
Is the new movie really going to be combined with STAR TREK?! Or is this some sick April Fool's joke?! I'm lost! --71.207.146.7 00:38, April 1, 2013 (UTC)A really confused Star Wars fan So, this film will be a crossover? PH Star Wars (talk) 00:38, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Were all lost now that Disney is in control. Gal-icon.jpg  OLIOSTER  (talk) 00:43, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

It's a sick, sick joke! I can't belive I fell for that! Camjosh9 (talk) 00:47, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * No joke, sorry to say it's true. Supreme Emperor (talk) 00:48, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

I think it's a joke, he did not provide sources. PH Star Wars (talk) 00:52, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Please bear with us as we are currently working on a plan to incorporate all of this new information into the site. Thanks for your patience. Supreme Emperor (talk) 00:55, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Order has gone out the window temporarily while we cope with the infodump we got from LFL. We just felt that this needed to get out ASAP. Pardon our disorganization while the dust settles. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 01:18, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

For all who are interested, there is a discussion going on at this Senate Hall thread. Forum:SH:LFL April surprise

If STAR WARS takes place "along time ago" and STAR TREK takes place in the future, how can they take place at the same time.

Rumor
How is it a rumor when I heard her say it the very interview that I linked? Matt Seay (talk) 19:34, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

Filming to start in January
This link confirms that the film will start shooting in January http://www.webpronews.com/star-wars-episode-vii-to-begin-filming-in-january-2013-06 Matt Seay (talk) 09:44, June 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * Please adhere to the Talkheader template. Thanks,  JangFett  (Talk) 13:15, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Abrams may be out
I read that J.J. Abrams is planning to back out of directing Episode 7 because of issues with location, (he doesn't want to shoot in England because he wants to be close to his family). Now, we don't need to post anything about this until he has officially quite, (if he even does at all), but just something to be ready for.--67.189.155.19 02:07, July 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * And LucasFilm has already issued a statement denying this. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  02:15, July 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh...nevermind then. lol --67.189.155.19 02:18, July 28, 2013 (UTC)

Working Title while in production
Like Return of the Jedi had a fake title while it was being filmed, episode VII does too, "Foodles Productions LTD. http://moviepilot.com/stories/1069643-star-wars-episode-vii-gets-production-title-and-start-date?stamp=37997&subscribe_to=711868&utm_campaign=1-star-wars-production-titel-revealed&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=fb-stream-post don't know how relevant this is but I thought i should share it. Matt Seay (talk) 19:26, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

Proof to my last edit
http://moviepilot.com/stories/1126059-is-this-proof-chewbacca-is-returning-for-star-wars-episode-vii?stamp=37720&subscribe_to=711158&utm_campaign=wookies-return-for-episode-7&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=fb-stream-post there is a link to where I got the info from. Matt Seay (talk) 01:49, October 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * Read the story you just linked: there is no official confirmation that this is even for Star Wars. Unless and until the casting call is explicitly confirmed to be for Star Wars Episode VII by an official or otherwise reliable source, it doesn't belong in the article. &mdash;MJ&mdash; Comlink 01:54, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

This site has been known to get a lot of their reporting spot on. I would still keep it in mind. Matt Seay (talk) 01:56, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

Casting Pseudonyms
Minor note in that I tried to incorporate the full casting details before realizing it was getting too detailed for a non-character page. Course making character articles would be a can of worms, but make of it what you will.--Hawki (talk) 08:04, November 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * I have removed this because there is no confirmation that this casting call is for Episode VII. The alleged connection is only a rumor/speculation. Unless and until there is an explicit connection made by an official source, nothing goes in the article. It is very, very rare for unconfirmed rumors and speculation to be worth mentioning, and generally only when the rumor/speculation is so widespread that it becomes notable in and of itself, even if wrong. An rare example of that was the rumors about J.J. Abrams directing that were all over the internet for a day or two before the official announcement; the fact that it leaked so widely before the official announcement was notable, as would have been so many different mainstream news sites all getting it wrong at once. This hasn't come anywhere close to that level of notability. &mdash;MJ&mdash; Holocomm 01:25, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

poster
can anyone confirm whether this is real? because if it is you may wish to add it to the article Red Eyed Raven (talk)
 * I don't see any indication of that being nothing but a fan-made poster. 1358  (Talk)  00:48, November 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * not that i doubt your judgment, but do you have a reason for doubting the authenticity of the poster, like is their usually a watermark on these sort of things? Red Eyed Raven (talk)
 * Released from an official source rather than a random website would be a good start. 1358  (Talk)  01:10, November 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Poster was highlighted by Tor as being fanart ages back.--Hawki (talk) 08:31, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Script finished and Abrams acknowledges casting rumors
A source from Empire magazine about The Scripts and Abrams. www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=39854 Matt Seay (talk) 23:01, March 3, 2014 (UTC)

Episode VII -- 39 ABY
Just announced via Alan Horn that Episode VII takes place "where 6 left off — and where 6 left off is 35 years ago by the time this is released," or 39 ABY in the Legacy era.

Also announced filming is underway in a minor capacity (ie, not principal).

--Kdenny2 (talk) 13:56, April 6, 2014 (UTC)

Word choice
"Discards" indicates that none of the EU will be used. According to the press release, "Creators of new Star Wars entertainment have full access to the rich content of the Expanded Universe." That doesn't mean they are discarding it per se. Adamwankenobi (talk) 17:51, April 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * You're kidding yourself if you think the EU hasn't been tossed out. Future content may cherrypick elements from the EU, but it's been discarded as a whole, so please stop trying to change it. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  01:31, April 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * If the EU was being discarded, then the writers would be forbidden from using any of it. Adamwankenobi (talk) 01:33, April 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * It's non-canon and its only purpose now is being used as a resource. If a writer wants to pluck a former EU story out of the bin (with story group approval), then it will become official canon once again.  JangFett  (Talk) 01:39, April 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * I know, but the wording in this article does not make that clear. Adamwankenobi (talk) 01:43, April 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * It doesn't have to. The EU has no relevance to Episode VII. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  01:46, April 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * It has as much relevance to Episode VII as it did to the prequels or The Clone Wars series. Only now, the policy has been made official. Would you say that the prequels discarded the EU, when they brought in Aayla Secura and all those Droids references? Adamwankenobi (talk) 01:56, April 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * By definition, Episode VII has nothing to do with the EU. It may incorporate concepts from the EU, but it exists outside the EU. End of story.  IFYLOFD  ( Enter the Floydome ) 02:03, April 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, but why isn't that made clear in the article? Adamwankenobi (talk) 02:08, April 30, 2014 (UTC)

Appearances
A question: are the droid models for Artoo and Threepio canon or purely EU? If they are purely EU, is Wookieepedia going to be using EU content on non-EU pages? Has a policy been worked out yet? Thanks. Home One (talk) 21:08, April 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * They are canon. They repeatedly call 3PO a Protocol Droid throughout the series, and a Super Battle Droid refers to R2 as a "stupid little Astro Droid.".--75.68.27.163 13:36, April 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * He meant the models not the type of droids. No, I don't think the models are canon any longer. Winterz (talk) 16:08, April 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * Doesn't some of that depend on whether publications like the Visual Dictionaries etc (and content therein) are counted within the Legends-canon or the new continuity? In the specific case of R2 however there's reference to "the R2 unit" on the Official Star Wars Encyclopedia. Slornie (talk) 16:51, June 7, 2014 (UTC)

Alan Horn statements
Alan Horn, Disney chairman, stated that Episode VII would take place thirty-five years after Return of the Jedi, not thirty. Is he source enough or should we stick with the slightly older official statement by Lucasfilm? Have a dark-side filled day! --You may call me Mr. Darth (talk) 22:00, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

Tatooine?
Is this video Star Wars: Force for Change - A Message from J.J. Abrams evidence enough to confirm that Tatooine will make an appearance in Star Wars Episode VII? Or too speculative? Have a dark side-filled day! --You may call me Mr. Darth (talk) 13:28, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

The Falcon
The picture that was leaked of the Millennium Falcon and then JJ's funny tweet do in a way confirm that it is in the film. Should it be added to appearances yet? Matt Seay (talk) 00:09, June 10, 2014 (UTC)

Is this to be updated to the new information the Inquisitors are back as the bad guys and that Darth Vader will cameo in a flashback? -IJosh64
 * No, because that is complete and utter speculation> Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  01:23, August 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * A Plane snapped a pic of the milliniom falcon and an x wing, it's on the news Tacolyte3 (talk) 21:27, September 10, 2014 (UTC) Tacolye3Tacolyte3 (talk) 21:27, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey Tacolyte3. The photos are real, but that doesn't mean the Falcon in Episode VII is officially confirmed. We'll wait for official confirmation before adding it to the page. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 21:56, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

New Cast members
They cast Christina Chong, and Game of thrones actor Miltos Yerolemou , oh and it's on the news .Tacolyte3 (talk) 03:41, September 4, 2014 (UTC)Tacolyte3Tacolyte3 (talk) 03:41, September 4, 2014 (UTC)


 * While Chong and Yerolemou were confirmed by highly reputable news sites, they were not officially confirmed by Lucasfilm or Disney in any capacity, so they haven't been added to the article. --Dentface (talk) 23:41, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Daisy Ridley's character
I was on the Disney Wiki, and I saw the sequel characters category, and there was someone there named Kira. It says that it's Daisy Ridley's character, and there's concept art. The Disney Wiki's usually reliable on not putting rumors or false stuff up as far as I know, so, what should we think? --Jessanna Stansu, Jedi Knight (talk) 18:59, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * If there's a reliable source that this can be sourced to, then sure, Wookieepedia will cover it. But Disney Wiki is not a valid source, regardless of its prior history of rumors (or lack thereof). 1358  (Talk)  19:03, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * The name Kira is, at this point, a rumor, and it's been assumed that it's just a production name. Until there's official confirmation about Daisy Ridley's character, we won't be posting a page for it. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 19:13, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, I was just putting the information up there. I was pretty excited when I saw the page. I mean, a possible known character besides Chewie, the droids, and the Big Three. That's pretty exciting.--Jessanna Stansu, Jedi Knight (talk) 13:16, October 22, 2014 (UTC)

Done Filming
Finished Filming They are finally done with the movie, now just waiting for 2015. It was reported by numerous news sites .Tacolyte3 (talk)Tacolyte3Tacolyte3 (talk)

Warwick Davis
He is going to be in the film. Here is a link. http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/warwick-davis-aka-wicket-returns-for-star-wars-episode-7-20141016 Skywalker2255 (talk) 21:22, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

No Episode VII?
How do we know this isn't merely advertising a la Empire and Jedi? Adamwankenobi (talk) 17:44, November 6, 2014 (UTC) (resent indent) StarWars.com prioritizes the main page for updates. Let's wait a day or so to see what the films page says. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 18:40, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * It probably will be (that's what I'm hearing), but until we see the title listed as Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens, we should keep it at Star Wars: The Force Awakens based on the official announcement. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 17:46, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * IMDb seems to think it's a good assumption because they still have "Episode VII" in their title, but I agree that if it's not there officially yet, we should't include it. ProfessorTofty (talk) 18:03, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well according to here there is no Episode VII on purpose. Time marches on and all that... --Alientraveller (talk) 18:04, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * I have learned to NOT take IMDb into account for anything official. --  Riffsyphon  1024 18:07, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * If this is true (and not just another one of JJ's diversions), it reminds me of Coppola's original intention to name Godfather 3 simply The Death of Michael Corleone so as to make it a separate entry from the Godfather saga proper. Adamwankenobi (talk) 18:10, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * "Films" section of StarWars.com goes with Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens.--Mariobaryla (talk) 18:12, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * So now we have two conflicting official sources. Best thing is to wait for further clarification. ProfessorTofty (talk) 18:16, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * As the official website includes the "Episode VII" title, what source would be most reliable? Roger Murtaugh (talk) 18:34, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Theforce.net has updated its original scoop, saying that "Lucasfilm has confirmed to us that Episode VII will not be in the title, but it will be in the opening crawl." Adamwankenobi (talk) 18:55, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

My take on the matter - "Episode VII" will be in the opening crawl despite not being in the promotional logos. This article should still be called "Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens" if all three original trilogy films are titled with their episode numbers. Episodes IV-VI were not marketed with episode numbers (obviously not IV, as it wasn't Episode IV at the time, but V and VI were definitely V and VI despite not being advertised as such) 107.77.76.57 23:22, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * If we are going with Episode VII in the title, should we at least be consistent with our film article titles? Currently the colon follows Star Wars and not the episode number as in the remainder of our film articles. I just thought I should mention that. --  Riffsyphon  1024 19:32, November 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * All film titles have been changed to put the colon after Star Wars, because that's what StarWars.com does. You can read what Tope had to say about that here. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 19:35, November 8, 2014 (UTC)

Small wording edit
Would make the edit myself, but it's impossible to edit anything on any page on this wiki if you're not registered. "Abrams made a cameo on Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, in which he is seen directing R2-D2 on the set of The Force Awakens, only to become frustrated with the droid and quit the film" in the Release section is inaccurate, as he's frustrated by a fish landing on the script, not with R2 himself. On the other hand, is a comedy gag relevant at all, especially when it doesn't even show anything new at all? --86.176.50.156 04:07, November 29, 2014 (UTC)

Latin America Release
It has been confirmed in the Latin American Facebook Star Wars Page, that the movie will hit Latin America's theaters a day erlier:



Image literal traduction: Along time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Enjoy the first look to "Star Wars: El despertar de la fuerza" (The Force awakens), in Latin American theaters starting on December 17 2015.

Jorgito me lo pinto (talk) 15:23, November 29, 2014 (UTC)

Andy Serkis
Andy Serkis has reveled he is the narrator on the trailer. http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a613376/andy-serkis-the-mystery-voice-in-star-wars-the-force-awakens-trailer.html#~oXqMovs59kaUMR Where should this be noted? Skywalker2255 (talk) 00:34, December 4, 2014 (UTC)

Spoilers
So are we just making it a blanket rule that any page associated with The Force Awakens is automatically marked with ? This isn't at all necessary. There are literally no spoilers at all in any of the pages. I removed the tags on each of the articles, but my edits were quickly reverted by a user who provided the edit description "Everything about this page is a spoiler" on each one. I don't think I need to explain why the article for Unidentified speeder bike contains no spoilers whatsoever, let alone major spoilers. —C Teng (talk)  00:33, December 12, 2014‎ (UTC)
 * That's just how it is. AV-6R7 User talk:AV-6R7 00:35, December 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * It's in The Force Awakens. That means it's a spoiler. It's a courtesy to readers to warn them that such a page contains information about the film, even if that information is limited. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 00:38, December 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * I suppose that's fair, for the type of moviegoers who plan on avoiding all trailers and promotion for Episode VII (though I can't imagine that there are a lot of those). But could we find/create a better template to use? "Major spoilers" is not at all an accurate description of what these articles contain, and it's likely to scare off readers, who might be misled into thinking Wookieepedia has somehow acquired the movie's script, or something. A more generic notice of "This article is related to the upcoming Force Awakens film and may contain mild spoilers" would be more appropriate, I feel. —C Teng (talk)  00:49, December 11, 2014‎ (UTC)
 * Per policy, the template to use at the top of an article is the major spoilers one. The only other template is more for individual page sections, and there are no individual sections on these pages yet. An exception to the policy would need to be voted on, I think. I myself, however, think the current policy suffices. Episode VII is a major release, so basically any information from it can reasonably be called a major spoiler. Better safe than sorry, in my opinion. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 00:54, December 12, 2014 (UTC)

George's treatment
Knowing the way George phrases things to extremes and outright lies about some things, can this article really state in his exact wording that "Disney came up with their own story?" To say that not a single idea, or even the same premise was not taken from George's treatment is just silly. I seem to recall somebody saying that the treatments were part of the deal, and that even during filming, George and JJ were in somewhat frequent contact 107.77.76.91 15:53, February 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * I've been wondering the same thing. After all, this is the same guy who told us for years that there would never be a 7, 8 and 9. Adamwankenobi (talk) 07:12, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

Resistance page name
We have confirmation that the group opposing the First Order (almost definitely the Rebel Alliance reformed) is known as the "Resistance." How should we go about titling the page for it? It shouldn't be "The Resistance" or "Resistance/Canon"; should we move some Legends pages or something to accommodate for this? Cevan (talk) 22:15, April 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * We don't do assumptions. As such, we should just wait for direct confirmation though honestly, what's the rush? The movie will make that clear enough once it's released. Creating articles on yet-to-be-released content should not be encouraged. Winterz (talk) 22:19, April 16, 2015 (UTC)