Wookieepedia:Good article nominations



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Lady Tarkin

 * Nominated by: Ozzel 01:18, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: That's what I'm Tarkin about. -- Ozzel 01:15, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

(3 AC/5 users/8 total)
Support
 * 1) Darth Star... DC 15:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Colinmcev 05:12, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Good show. 15:11, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) An interesting read.  Aqua  Unasi  03:04, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Soresumakashi 07:06, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) Enjoyed it... where's she now? Easy88 19:11, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) Now you just gotta FA her hubby, and you're good to go :P  Greyman ( Talk ) 13:50, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) POV-ish header: "Megonite megalomaniac." --Imperialles 01:20, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) She the proceeded her banquet hall to host the Imperial Diplomatic Conclave, for guests such as Shea Hublin, Chancellor Qua of the Zenox Star Cluster, the Most High Proctor of Thebeon 8, and Darth Vader himself. By this do you mean She then proceeded to her banquet hall to host the Imperial Diplomatic Conclave for guests such as Shea Hublin, Chancellor Qua of the Zenox Star Cluster, the Most High Proctor of Thebeon 8 and Darth Vader himself? Soresumakashi 09:23, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) *Indeed. Fixed. -- Ozzel 11:02, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Darth Star? Is this like a mistake or joke or something of that sort? =D DC 12:10, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) *I think that was the original name. :-p Nah, I typed that once and then was clumsy enough to copy it, and then I didn't catch either one. -- Ozzel 21:39, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * 7) * The intro is a bit confusing with which Tarkin is being referenced.
 * 8) **Addressed. -- Ozzel 08:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) *"Her fate is unknown". This must die on sight.
 * 10) **I'll think about this one some more. -- Ozzel 08:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 20:52, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) Nice job with this, and cool subject. A few suggestions... -- Colinmcev 02:56, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 13) * Could you try rewording "Lady Tarkin was the cousin of Commander Conan Motti—and it was for the connection to her powerful relatives such as he that Wilhuff Tarkin married the woman." You already mentioned the Motti family in the previous sentence, so perhaps something like "Wilhuff Tarkin married her due to her powerful family connections, such as her cousin, Commander Conan Motti" or something like that? -- Colinmcev 02:56, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) **Done. -- Ozzel 08:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 15) * I don't feel strongly about this objection, but I'm not sure this needs to be in the behind the scenes: "Also, no source has yet indicated whether or not she was aware of her husband's affair with Natasi Daala." -- Colinmcev 02:56, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 16) **I wouldn't be crushed if it was removed, but I thought it was worth noting because it's a pretty major part of her character that we don't know. If she didn't know about Daala, then she was just blindly devoted to Wilhuff, but if she did, then that puts a different spin on things. And since the Biography was written with the knowledge of Daala, someone might just assume that she knew, so I thought it was best to make it clear that we don't know either way. -- Ozzel 08:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 17) ***Fair enough. -- Colinmcev 05:12, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 18) Toprawa:
 * 19) * I'm failing to see any compelling connection between Lady Tarkin and the last bit of the second paragraph of the first subsection. Unless you can directly connect this back to Lady Tarkin somehow, I would remove this: "In 5 BBY, when Lady Tarkin's brother-in-law Gideon Tarkin was killed during the Erhynradd Mutiny, his daughter Rivoche was invited to come live at the Tarkin estate; however, the teenage Rivoche frequently acted out in resentment, so Wilhuff had her sent to an exclusive preparatory academy on Clær."
 * 20) **Understandable. It's vague because there is no specific mention Lady Tarkin in that source. But since she was married to Willy, she would have been there when they took in Rivoche and been part of that whole ordeal. I just can't saying anything in particular about Lady Tarkin there, because it's not in the source. -- Ozzel 22:14, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 21) ***Ultimately speculation, but very well. I'll look the other way on this one.
 * 22) **I guess I'm going to avoid making this an objection for the time being, but remind me again why this article is under "Lady Tarkin" and not something more befitting of our naming conventions, such as Tarkin (Lady)? Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:37, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 23) ***Because we have a template for such cases specifically so that we don't have to resort to the parenthetical stuff. -- Ozzel 22:14, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 24) ****Well, I'm going to upgrade this to an objection then. I think it would be best to adhere to our naming convention precedent and go with "Tarkin (Lady)". See: the FA Valarian as a similar example. We don't have it under "Lady Valarian" for reason. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:40, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 25) *****If I'm not mistaken, Valarian is her only name though—she isn't Mrs. Valarian, so I don't think the example is a fitting one. Lady Tarkin would have a first name—we just don't know what it is. A more appropriate comparison would be Madam Rhoden; it's the exact same situation, and it passed GA just a few months back. -- Ozzel 04:16, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 26) ******It's disappointing to think anyone would try to create an article with any kind of personal title in the name given our long-standing, though unofficial, article-naming convention precedent. Trying to use a GA to create any kind of precedent, much less one effectively subverting a FA precedent, is just silly. But since our naming convention page is only "proposed policy," this is the kind of situation we unfortunately have to deal with and not one that can legitimately be objected to at this time. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:37, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

 * Nominated by: NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 03:03, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination Comments: I think it may finally be ready... NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 03:03, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

(0 AC/2 users/2 total)
Support
 * 1) I strongly feel that this is a good nomination. KotOR's article page was in something of shambles several months ago with a badly written, inconsistently tensed synopsis, revealing of plot details at the beginning, etc. The fact of the matter is though, a large amount of improvement has been done since then and it is a much better article than it was then. While I don't think it's worthy of featured article status, I definitely see it as worthy of being a "good article." Niirfa-sa 23:58, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) After all my grammatical nit-picking, I think it's of GA standard. Soresumakashi 06:47, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Oppose **A specialist —either a normal Republic soldier, scout, or scoundrel. Suggest changing specialist and all other cases of it to player instead. There should be no space between specialist and the mdash. 22:32, 17 September 2008 (UTC) **The padawan then follows this map to a krayt dragon's cave and assisted a local hunter, Komad Fortuna, in killing it. Assisted should be assists. **The party baits, finds the beast, and kills it, retrieved the blade from its hide. Suggest rephrasing **The party was leaving the base with droid in hand when they were confronted by Selkath authorities with reports of shots fired within the embassy. Was should be is and were should be are. *Revelation aboard the Leviathan **''The potential students of the academy prove their worth by performing various tasks and gaining prestige. Some of the challenges are martial in nature while others were mental, but all require a certain commitment to the Sith ideals''. Prove should be proved, are should be were and require should be required. **Revan discovers the Rakatans were divided into several tribes. Were should be are. **Revan was able to break Bastila's resolve and persuaded her to turn back to the light. Was should be is and persuaded should be persuades. Yay! I'm done! Have fun fixing the article! Soresumakashi 10:41, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) An excess of redlinks and the synopsis needs to be written in present tense.  Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 14:14, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *There is no limit towards how many redlinks can be in a GA. DC 15:50, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) **Additionally, in-universe articles are to be written in past tense, per the Manual of Style. // ~mikah~  01:44, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) **Redlinks I was wrong about then, but a synopsis is always written in present tense. Look at the film articles. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 13:49, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) ***Again, directly from the Manual of Style itself, "All in-universe articles should be in past tense, per 'A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...'" Only out-of-universe articles (ie, George Lucas, John Williams) should be written in present tense. Despite whatever tense the film articles are written in, if its not past tense, its wrong. // ~mikah~  14:09, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) ****This is not an in-universe article. Stylistically, plot summaries for anything almost anywhere are in the present tense&mdash;the MoS doesn't contradict this in any way, because this is an OOU article. "In contrast, articles about books, movies, games, or other real-life Star Wars material should obviously be written from an out-of-universe perspective, but should still be noted as such." Our OOU FAs also use this system, and so should this article. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 14:20, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) *****I see what you mean now, I misread what I was reading. So that would be a prominent problem with the article. I'll go ahead and try to fix as much as I can for now. And sorry about the confusion, Drewton. // ~mikah~  14:27, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) ******Fixed NaruHina  Talk[[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 03:59, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There is no mention I can see that the soundtrack was composed by Jeremy Soule --Jinzler 09:33, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Addressed NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 06:39, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) This does sound kind of strict, but these are meant to be a showcase of our very best articles, so here goes:
 * Trapped on Taris
 * on the Hammerhead-class capital ship, the Endar Spire. Hammerhead should be in italics.
 * When the player wakes, Carth informs him of the situation and that they needed to find and rescue Bastila, whose escape pod had crash-landed somewhere on the planet. Needed should be need and had should be has.
 * and the slums of Lower City. Of Lower City should be of the Lower City.
 * impose a security lock down. Lock down is and should be one word.
 * that has been stolen from them by the Vulkars. Has should be had.
 * Ironically, when they found her. Found should be find.
 * Zaalbar has been captured. Has should be had.
 * The group venture into the sewers, the trio track down and rescue Zaalbar from the slavers. Suggest rephrasing.
 * They Raid the Vulkar Base. Raid should not be capitalized.
 * Afterwards, they return to Gadon and the Beks, they stay the night before going to the swoop race the next morning. Suggest rephrasing
 * At the swoop race, the neophyte racer manages to win the race. Could we just say that the player won the race? There are too many uses of race, and neophyte is a bad word.
 * Before he could accept his prize however, Brejik broke the deal at the last moment, claiming the player has cheated by using the prototype accelerator. Could should be can and broke should be breaks.
 * Bastila breaks free and a fight ensued. Ensued should be ensues.
 * Brejik and his Vulkar thugs could not defeat them and die in the lightfight. Lightfight is defined as a fight where both sides use blasters. Bastila was using a double vibro and we don't know what Revan used. And the sentence needs a full stop. Basic grammar here.
 * Canderous recommends the leader of the party to Davik for hire as a ploy. Last I heard, a ploy was a gambit.
 * It can also mean "trick." NaruHina  Talk
 * Other than that, fixed. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 23:31, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Second Star Map: Tatooine
 * As he and the others left the cave. Left should be leave.
 * Fixed NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 22:15, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Third Star Map: Kashyyyk
 * As a reward for their aid, Freyyr gives his only surviving son Bacca's Ceremonial Blade and allows him to come out of exile and was no longer branded a madclaw. Suggest rephrasing.
 * Shortly thereafter, the Wookiees of the village united under their new chieftain, Freyyr, and rebelled against Czerka with the aid of the party. United should be Unite and rebelled should be rebel.
 * Fixed NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 22:32, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Fourth Star Map: Manaan
 * The two were the only Human scientists still alive and were trapped in the facility. Both were's should be ares
 * the padawan persuades them to tell him what they knew. Knew should be know.
 * which was responsible for the Selkath's insanity. Was should be is.
 * Fixed NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 23:07, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * For every question he answers incorrectly, Bastila was tortured. Was should be is.
 * Meanwhile the padawan's pick is able to infiltrate the Leviathan. Suggest rewording padawan's pick.
 * Seeing nothing else that they could do. Could should be can.
 * Fixed NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 22:32, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Fifth Star Map: Korriban
 * Are you sure that should be in past tense? NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 22:09, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, my mistake. Both are acceptable. Soresumakashi 06:47, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Crash-landing on an unknown world
 * Though he was required to enter alone, Juhani and Jolee, after receiving a vision that warned them that Revan was in danger, joined him at the last minute against the Elders' protests. Warned should be warn, both was and was should be is and is. Joined should be join.
 * They had the vision before which showed them that Revan is in danger.
 * Revan and the others joined the Republic's assault on the Star Forge. Joined should be join.
 * Fixed NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 22:51, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The Star Forge
 * Fixed NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 22:09, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

From the Pasta Bowl of Fiolli: &mdash;  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 22:35, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * First off, the article isn't sourced fully. In fact, it isn't even 75% sourced. The first citation I found was the last paragraph of section five. Every section outside of the intro needs to be sourced.
 * "While KotOR does not have as much evident cut content as its sequel, Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords, it is still present." &mdash; OR. Reword or find a citation for this.
 * I personally don't feel that qualifys as OR in that it is a lead in to the cut content and we need a separate article for kotor2 cut content. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 03:29, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I strongly beg to differ. If you are inferring or have deduced that this game has less cut content and this is not supported anywhere else, then it is OR. Please find a citation or reword the sentence.  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 05:29, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Is this citation good? NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 13:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * "It features the planet Sleheyron&hellip;" What is it? The game? Sleheyron is not in the game. Reword.
 * Reworded. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 03:29, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * "The existence of a cut planet can be also deduced&hellip;" &mdash; OR.
 * Again, it leads into it but reworded. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 03:29, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Same as before: Find a citation or reword. Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 05:29, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I did reword it. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 13:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I added a lot of fact tags to the page where there was definite missing of citation. Please look into these.
 * Section six has too many short paragraphs please restructure this section.
 * There is no source list. There are many KotOR supplements that are OOU which can be used to further beef up this article.
 * There are two very important ones: here and here.
 * Plus, Chronicles probably has some information as to further development and tying in storylines.
 * Added NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 03:29, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, so there is a basic source list. Now, the citations from these documents are very important.  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 05:29, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The plot which is described in section two is very much a play-by-play of the game. While this isn't necessary bad, it is too detailed and only one means of game completion.
 * There is no mention that planets can be completed in any order.
 * From atop the synopsis: "(Note: This is based on the canonical male light side version of the game and assumes that the planets are visited in the order Dantooine, Tatooine, Kashyyyk, Manaan and Korriban. Gender, Force alignment, order of planets visited and other variables can differ depending on the input of the player.)" NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 05:20, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, I missed that. My apologies. However, you should use the gameLS and endgame tags as needed throughout the article. The further detailing of this can be left where you have it, but I wouldn't use "Note:" or put it in parenthesis.  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 05:29, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * There is no mention that Calo Nord can appear in multiple places, as can Darth Bandon.
 * Addressed in the Alternate Stories NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 05:20, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The middle of this section lacks pictures and the ones clustered above are too close together.
 * Addressed NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 13:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * There is no section about primary characters. Characters are listed, but not explained with relation to their role in the game. Please see Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi for a good example of how this is done.
 * Honestly, this is just from a cursory look. I really didn't read too much of the article. Once these things have been addressed, I'll be happy to look at it again.

Comments
 * I'm pretty sure the excess redlink template should be at the top of the article, as per wookieepedia's page layout policies. Soresumakashi 06:47, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Moved NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 21:07, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Battle of the TIE Fighter Construction Facility

 * Nominated by: DjMack
 * Nomination comments: This would be my first real good article I wrote entirely by myself, just point out to me anything that needs fixing, I want to be criticized and become a better writer. SPOILERS FOR FORCE UNLEASHED, BEWARE.

(2 AC/1 user/3 total)
Support
 * 1) Good work. --Jedimca0(Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 11:02, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * :)  Aqua  Unasi  19:11, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) DC 21:17, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) From the post-it of DC
 * 2) * Indecisive victory? For who?
 * 3) *You need an aftermath section for the battle.
 * 4) *This article was fantastic, DjMack, it was very well written. DC 18:09, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Aqua Unasi
 * 6) *Great article. Very well written indeed. A few things:
 * 7) ** You need an tag.
 * 8) ** A few things are unsourced: The first paragraph of Prelude, The two paragraphs in the Aftermath section, and a few things in the infobox.
 * 9) **Also, I went in and changed these for you, but a thing to remember for future articles is to put a tag on the article when nominating it. Also, don't forget to link to your references, and that they go immediately after punctuation, with no space between.
 * 10) *I hope to see more articles from you in the future! :)  Aqua  Unasi  19:27, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) *One more thing - it looks like some things have been added into the infobox and aren't sourced. The thing about the hijacked AT-ST, the AT-ST in the casualties, and the outcome need referencing.
 * 12) ** Also, you have the first paragraph of prelude referenced by "Hasbro". Can this be more specific? Is there a website article, interview, or what?  Aqua  Unasi  20:29, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 13) Xadún's Dun Moch:
 * 14) *Quotes?
 * 15) *A few linking issues. Remember, once in the intro and the first appearence in the main body.
 * 16) *Intro - "raised in the dark" makes it sound like Vader kept him in a small cupboard without light. Say he was was trained in the Dark Side and the Emperor knew nothing of him. that would be sufficient.
 * 17) *Does the novel not give any specifics for the battle of duel? particular strikes, sequences of fighting etc would make the duel section far better.
 * 18) *"He would spend his time in various bars, before Starkiller found him and asked for his help to gather the enemies of the Empire." Did Starkiller just want information or help to actually get the Rebels all in one place? what was this plan?
 * 19) **Starkiller wanted to gather the enemies of the empire together. DjMack 02:23, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 20) ***Does Starkiller execute a plan in the game? if so, a link to this battle please, even if it doesn't exist yet. Darth Xadún ( Consult the Holocron ) 08:25, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 21) *Not bad. Nice to see somone working on Battle GA's. Darth Xadún ( Consult the Holocron ) 13:27, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 22) Pranay Sobusk
 * 23) *In the introduction, you only tell about the prelude. You should write about the whole battle.
 * 24) *I'd like to see a quote in the article. Kind regards,  Pranay Sobusk  ~  Talk to me  16:19, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 25) Toprawa:
 * 26) *Your BTS is really bare bones. You should detail the differences between the events in each version of TFU. Certainly there is much that happens in the game that doesn't happen in the novel. Explain what each version introduces, how anything contradicts with other versions, etc. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:33, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * Oh, next time you nominate something that recently came out, just make sure to say that there are spoilers. DC 18:04, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I added everything. DjMack 01:47, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Kurt

 * Nominated by: —Tommy9281  [[Image:Red lightsaber.png|20px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 12:47, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:Haven't been by here in a while&hellip;

(3 AC/2 users/5 total)
Support
 * 1) --Eyrezer 20:09, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 2)  Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 12:27, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Soresumakashi 01:08, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Kind regards,  Pranay Sobusk  ~  Talk to me  12:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 5)  Greyman ( Talk ) 16:08, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Humans (first sentence) should be capitalized. Soresumakashi 12:16, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *Addressed. Thank you for looking. —Tommy9281 [[Image:Red lightsaber.png|20px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 23:54, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Aqua
 * 4) *This sentence is a bit confusing to me, but then again I'm a complete TOTJ inept. Is this end clause "refusing to be enslaved by such and such" referring to the Beast Riders or the city dwellers? The Beast Riders had risen up against the dark side-worshiping city-dwellers, who were led by the sorceress-Queen Amanoa, and had refused to be enslaved by the memory of a deceased Dark Lord of the Sith named Freedon Nadd.
 * 5) **Addressed. If anything else is required, please advise, thank you. —Tommy9281 [[Image:Red lightsaber.png|20px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 12:44, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) *Nicely done.  Aqua  Unasi  21:26, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) Pranay Sobusk
 * 8) * The sentence: Kurt was the Flight leader of several squads, or "wings",... confused me. What was he? The flight leader of several squads or the flight leader of several wings?
 * 9) **Addressed.
 * 10) * I'd like to see the section "Early life" and "Battle of Iziz" merged into one biography section, because the two-line section does not look really good in my opinion. Kind regards,  Pranay Sobusk  ~  Talk to me  15:16, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) **Addressed. If anything else is required, please advise, thank you. —Tommy9281 [[Image:Red lightsaber.png|20px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 12:44, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) The BtS needs a little work. It seems to assume the reader knows what it's talking about. E.g. "the audio drama" needs to be fleshed out and explained. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 15:30, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 13) *Addressed. If anything else is required, please advise, thank you. —Tommy9281 [[Image:Red lightsaber.png|20px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 12:44, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) Toprawa:
 * 15) * I can't begin to understand why you're using a GFFA character infobox for a TOTJ character. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:16, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 16) **That was such an accident. Addressed, and thank you for looking. —Tommy9281 [[Image:Red lightsaber.png|20px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 23:49, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 17) * If Kurt's forces are fighting from the air, "overrun" doesn't really fit. This is more befitting of a ground-based attack. Please reword: "Kurt's forces successfully overran the defensive towers that lined Iziz's northern wall"
 * 18) **Addressed.
 * 19) * In the context of an aerial attack, "fighters" seems to infer starfighters, when this is not the case. Please reword "fighters" to something more appropriate: "Kurt then led his fighters in an attack against the eastern wall"
 * 20) **Addressed.
 * 21) * Perhaps I am just unfamiliar with this, but the word "forsaken" doesn't seem appropriate here. Something along the lines of "discarded" or "dismounted" or something seems to fit better, no? "who had forsaken his flying beast to lead the ground forces"
 * 22) **Addressed.
 * 23) * Does any source consistently capitalize "Palace" in this manner? If not, this should be lowercase: "and bombard the Palace roof with counterfire"
 * 24) **Addressed.
 * 25) * Nothing in this article ever introduces anything as being affiliated with the Naddists. This should be done before dropping this mention in here so late in the article: "who managed to defeat the Naddist forces with assistance from several"
 * 26) **Addressed.
 * Ok, your quote of Gobee "ordering Kurt" to lay down suppressing fire doesn't really seem to match up with what have you in the article. In the quote, it doesn't seem like Gobee is directly ordering Kurt at all, but instead is blindly yelling for anyone to come to assistance, and Kurt just happens to respond. I think your article should reflect this, rather than saying Kurt responded to a direct order.
 * 1) **Addressed.
 * 2) ***You changed two words in the quote attribution, which doesn't satisfy what I was objecting to in any way. The article should be tweaked to represent what the quote is telling us. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:47, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) * I think it would be more appropriate to just merge the "Abilities" section into the P/T, since "Abilities" isn't really a section we use for non-Force characters.
 * 4) **Addressed.
 * 5) * Given that his name never appears in any official text, as I'm assuming, I think it would be best to leave some kind of note in the BTS explaining the article spells his name as such based on pure assumption of the most common OOU spelling of the name "Kurt."
 * 6) **Addressed.
 * 7) * If Kurt only appears fleetingly in two lines, I'm curious where the information comes from that he is a Human and native to Onderon. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:26, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) **He's a Beast Rider; all of which were explicitly said to be natives of Onderon, and Human. That can be sourced several times over, if you like. —Tommy9281 [[Image:Red lightsaber.png|20px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 06:09, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * I don't think Anderson had anything to do with the audio dramas, and I believe they were written by John Whitman. Please look into this/correct as necessary. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 15:31, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed, you are correct, Ackbar. I've went ahead and made the change for you, Tommy :) Greyman ( Talk ) 16:08, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for making the change. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 20:27, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Fohargh

 * Nominated by: —Tommy9281 [[Image:Red lightsaber.png|20px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 04:59, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: What the hey.

(1 AC/1 users/2 total)
Support
 * 1)  Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 19:14, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 07:51, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) I'd like to see the first sentence in the Bio about his origins cleaned up to avoid using the "little is known" phrasing. Admittedly, that's not what you used, but it's close enough to warrant a change, IMO.  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  22:07, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *Addressed. Thank you for looking Chack, if anything else is necessary, please advise. —Tommy9281 [[Image:Red lightsaber.png|20px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 00:24, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) From the squadron briefing of Cavalier One:
 * 4) * Not really an objection, but is it possible to get an image or two in the article? One of Bane perhaps, and maybe a generic Makurth image?
 * 5) **Added a generic makurth image, but I feel a Bane one is inappropriate, since we have no images of bane from that point in his life. —Tommy9281  [[Image:Red lightsaber.png|20px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 14:49, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) ***Fair enough. - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 19:14, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) ****I don't know about adding just a generic pic. It just doesn't seem right. Are there any GA/FAs with similar situations? If not, I'd suggest using an image of Bane.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 22:42, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) *****I agree with Chack, but, I am perfectly fine with doing whatever the consensus is. —Tommy9281 [[Image:Red lightsaber.png|20px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 23:46, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) ******I also don't think that image of the Makurth is appropriate. Certainly not there. It may work in the Bts as a "this is what Makurth look like" but should not be in the main body of the article. --Eyrezer 19:35, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) *******Removed per consensus. —Tommy9281 [[Image:Red lightsaber.png|20px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 23:27, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) From the underwater moffship of AdmirableAckbar:
 * 12) * Is Moltok actually mentioned as his homeworld in DBPoDaNotOR? I only ask because it's not in Moltok's sources/appearances. If it isn't mentioned, then it should be removed from the infobox and the bit about the Makurth in the bio would need to be sourced (and, thus, the whole article).
 * 13) **Addressed.
 * 14) * I find the "First encounter with Bane" section to read like it might in Bane's bio. I know it's probably written from Bane's POV in DBPoDaNotOR, but I'd like to see you try to tell it more from Forhargh's POV.
 * 15) **I did the best I could (added a sentence), considering that the story is told from Bane's POV in such a way that trying to further tell it from Fohargh's POV would be exactly that&mdash;speculation, and POV. In any rate, if this is still unsatisfactory, please advise. —Tommy9281 [[Image:Red lightsaber.png|20px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 01:31, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 16) * "So consumed by his dark side filled rage, Bane overpowered his quarry with the Force as he writhed about, and Fohargh clutched at his throat in futile attempts to free himself from Bane's invisible grasp." This reads a tad too flowerly; I'd like it altered a little to read less like a narrative.
 * 17) **Addressed.
 * 18) **Interesting character, if somewhat two-dimensional. Good work. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 16:43, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 19) Soresu
 * 20) *Can forms two, three and five be in roman numerals?
 * 21) **Addressed.
 * 22) ***You missed four instances. Use Control+f. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 23:36, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 23) ****Addressed now.
 * 24) * The duel began shortly thereafter. Two sentences back, it says then quickly clashed blades in battle. Hasn't it already started?
 * 25) **Addressed.
 * 26) * Bane then overpowered his quarry with the dark side of the Force as he writhed about, and Fohargh clutched at his throat in futile attempts to free himself from Bane's invisible grasp. Reword. It sounds as if Bane, not Fohargh was writhing about. You need to say that Bane used Force choke on him before it makes sense.
 * 27) **Addressed.
 * 28) * There, on the Academy's roof, the student known as Fohargh was ushered into death, having been strangled by Bane. Reword. The student known as Fohargh is not necessary, for a start.
 * 29) **Addressed.
 * 30) * He was able to transition between them suddenly and unexpectedly, which was designed to disrupt the cadence of his opponent. However, for all his skill in with the training saber, Fohargh was still unable to defeat his opponent Bane in their second encounter. Transition should be transit, and in with should be just with. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 23:05, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 31) **Wrong on both counts. Transition is correct, and with the is also correct.
 * 32) ***Microsoft Word says both are correct. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 23:36, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 33) ****"for all his skill in with the training saber" is not correct.
 * 34) *****That's what I originally thought, too, but it checks out with Word. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 00:13, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 35) *****Damn, I didn't see that. Addressed. Sorry, transition stays. Don't always trust Word. —Tommy9281 [[Image:Red lightsaber.png|20px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 01:45, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * Why not just send this straight to FAN? --Eyrezer 22:47, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Just cause, I currently have alot going on on the FAN, so I figured I'd send this one and the next through the GAN first. —Tommy9281 [[Image:Red lightsaber.png|20px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 00:24, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the read, Soresu. For future reference, all of your objections were minor enough to fall under the "sofixit" rule. Don't be afraid to use it next time;) —Tommy9281 [[Image:Red lightsaber.png|20px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 19:13, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

First Duel in the Iron Citadel

 * Nominated by: —Tommy9281 [[Image:Red lightsaber.png|20px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 04:59, 17 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Nomination comments: None.

(1 AC/0 users/1 total)
Support
 * 1)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  23:20, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Can we just use lightsaber duels instead of contests of strength? It's more direct, and besides, duels aren't all about strength. Soresumakashi 12:01, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *The next use of the word "duel" would be six words away (which happens to lead into the title), and would then disrupt the prose. I've never seen a duel that ended with tea and biscuits either;P I would ask you to reconsider please. —Tommy9281 [[Image:Red lightsaber.png|20px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 00:06, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) **Still, not too happy about it, but okay, I guess no-one (except me) will really notice. Soresumakashi 00:59, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) ***I understand your position, and I am not adverse to altering my bladework on the next duel article. Thank you for looking. If anything else is required, please advise. —Tommy9281 [[Image:Red lightsaber.png|20px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 13:21, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) AgriCorp review:
 * 6) * Your " are off a bit. Did you use Word? The spacing between them and the quotes is unnecessary too.
 * 7) **Addressed.
 * 8) * Also, is it specifically identified as being several months?
 * 9) **Addressed.
 * 10) *Another lightsaber duel from Tommy. Nice.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 13:38, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) **Always a pleasure, Chack. Your review is appreciated. I've got several Bane ones on the FAN you may be interested in ;) —Tommy9281 [[Image:Red lightsaber.png|20px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 11:54, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) ***That you do. I'll check them out when I've got time.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 23:20, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * Before I review it, this article appears to be well over 1,000 words. Any reason it's not nominated for FA rather than GA? - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 10:42, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Trition Trade Route

 * Nominated by: Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 12:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Okay - another test. No trade routes have been FA/GAed as far as I know. All criticism and suggestions welcomed.

(2 AC/4 user/5 total)
Support
 * 1) Nice job NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 03:25, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Good work. --Jedimca0(Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 09:56, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) It took me a while to find time to read it; that's why I couldn't vote earlier. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 10:01, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Fantastic. DC 15:41, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Converted the text on the second image to past tense, and gave it a full stop. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 22:17, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 6)  Greyman ( Talk ) 16:20, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Written in NaruHina's Death Note:
 * 2) * The Bts needs to be sourced.
 * 3) **The BTS is self-sourcing as it refers to the individual book releases in the text.
 * 4) * You may want to have a list of systems breaking up the list of plantets.
 * 5) **Not sure what you mean by this. All the known planets on the route are included in the list. If you mean the name of the system for each planet, then it gets tricky. Karideph and Pergitor are known by the planet name only, all the others are referenced to be in "systems with the same name as the primary planet" apart from Gandle Ott, which is in the Ott system. - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 12:53, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) ***I ment if one planet was in a system list the system and put that as the category on the page and include another paragraph about the system. There are more planets along a hyperspace route than the main export ones. If no system is listed then just list the planet.
 * 7) ****Here's my reasoning for why that can't be done&mdash;all of the planets listed are the only known planets on the Trade Route. There is no information given if said planet is the only habitable planet in its system. There are no systems on the Trade Route where the planet is unknown. Linking to the system gives less information - compare Kolatill to Kolatill system. - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 14:10, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) *****Accepted, though maybe if the info is bountifly available it would be addable. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 03:25, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) *Cavalier One will get this FA'd NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 12:45, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) Does the source really speculate like that about the foundation of the Route? Graestan ( Talk ) 21:17, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) *Admittedly, no. All the facts are correct, but it is extrapolation based on known facts. I did debate whether or not to add it, but it felt important enough to include. However, if it is a serious problem, I could reword it and shift it into the BTS section. - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 09:12, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) Toprawa:
 * 13) *No era tags? I think they should also appear in the infobox, which I think is a field that was not added upon its creation. Please consider adding it to the infobox template. Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:48, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) **While I have no problem with adding era tags/ fields, I thought that an article about a trade route would probably fall under the "timeless" category of using era fields, much like planets and species? - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 14:46, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 15) ***I wouldn't think so, since I'm assuming that hyperlanes could only have been created following the advent of hyperdrive technology. That is, someone did theoretically forge the lane at one time. In more rudimentary terms, this is like a road. Someone must have created and paved this road, which can (with source material) be definitely pinpointed to X time. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:23, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 16) ***To add on to this, we know of at least one hyperlane that became defunct with the advent of a larger hyperlane running through the same area. See: Anoat trade corridor. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 17) ****Fair point. Added. - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 15:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Buran Borsil

 * Nominated by: -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 21:51, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Part of AckyProject GOSS.

(4 AC/1 Users/5 Total)
Support
 * 1) -  Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 13:05, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) DC 15:34, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) I love these individual user projects.  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  23:23, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:05, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 22:08, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) Looks like this will pass before mine :P NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 01:40, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) DC
 * 2) * "Barosa Warren was not happy with them using the skills he and his staff had imparted on them in this way, and he and Sisquoc had a fierce argument over another, more personal matter." Sentence is very unclear; who's doing what?
 * 3) **Cleared it up a little. Should be better now.
 * 4) * Mention Warren's hatred of Borsil in the P&T.
 * 5) **Added a brief mention.
 * 6) *I know this isn't a valid objection, but if you aren't working on it already, could you fix the redlinks?
 * 7) **I'll probably get them in the next week or so since they'll be linked to from several noms.
 * 8) *Great article Acky, though I don't why you're not taking this towards FA. DC 23:36, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) **Thanks for your comments and the review. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 12:14, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) Soresu
 * 11) * You used GOSS's once in the overview, but s' everywhere else eg. Class', GOSS'. I thought we already discussed intra-article consistency. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 04:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) **Whoops. Fixed. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 07:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Rugosa

 * Nominated by: --Eyrezer 00:58, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:

(0 AC/1 Users/2 Total)
Support
 * 1) Cool choice. Cull Tremayne 17:08, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 23:45, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) * but was changed when it was decided to air alongside "Rising Malevolence,". Reword. Can't figure out what exactly is wrong, it just doesn't sound right to me. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 08:03, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) **Should be clarified. --Eyrezer 17:04, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) The Anvil:
 * 4) *Eliminate overlinking.
 * 5) **I only spotted one, which I killed.
 * 6) *Link subjects that have articles with them, IE: Clone Wars.
 * 7) **I'm not sure what you mean by this.
 * 8) *You speak of Ruusan. Is that a planet, moon, sector? Some context please. However, the Republic plan was intercepted by a Confederacy of Independent Systems listening post on Ruusan, and so in order to disrupt the plan, Count Dooku sent his apprentice Asajj Ventress to convince or coerce the Toydarian King to become a Separatist ally instead.
 * 9) **Added a bit of context.
 * 10) *Same sentence. You introduce Count Dooku very abruptly. Please deliver a note of context.
 * 11) **Done
 * 12) *Same sentence. Ventress was really Dooku's apprentice? More along the lines of an acolyte I believe.
 * 13) **Changed to disciple. I was flicking through an Insider mag today and that was the term they used so should be ok.
 * 14) *And after all that, you may want to split that same sentence in two. —Tommy9281  [[Image:Red lightsaber.png|20px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 03:44, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Comments