Wookieepedia:Inq/Complaints Department

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- Some unnamed Inquisitor


 * Please address any concerns or complaints towards the Inquisitorius here, not on a talk page. We'll try to keep it civil.

Complaint 1
Ordinary users not having a part in the Inquisitorius&mdash;We voted for you, so why don't we get a say in the dealings of the Inquisitorius? Just as regular users get to participate in admin nominations along with actual admins, ordinary users should be able to participate in the votes on removing articles from FA status. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 23:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Anyone can join the Inquisitorius, just start getting involved&mdash;showing up at our IRC meetings is a good first step. =) -- http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/e/e5/ATATatarismall.png 23:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Where does it say that anyone can join the Inq? I have a hard time navigating the Inq-pages. KEJ 23:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It doesn't. Inqs were originally appointed by community vote, but recently they've started accepting new members at their IRC meetings. -- http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/e/e5/ATATatarismall.png 23:46, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, so this information will be made public, I assume. KEJ 23:47, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll set up a page tomorrow. -- http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/e/e5/ATATatarismall.png 23:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah...I'm not quite sure we're going to start accepting people willy-nilly. Inq status is usually granted to those who are actively involved with FA. .  .  .  .  23:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, of course. But in theory anyone can join the Inq. -- http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/e/e5/ATATatarismall.png 23:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, whenever you sort it out, it should be made public - it would make the Inq seem less clique-ish. KEJ 23:53, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Jack, if ordinary users voted, there would be no Inquisitorius. There would just be ordinary users voting. The whole point of it is that it's a system to judge quality (which is, as much as we try to codify it with rules, a subjective matter). Being a subjective matter, it's staffed by people whose judgment the community, through their votes, trusts in making those decisions. It's not Johnny Newuser voting not to remove Boba Fett's FA status because Boba is kewl. It's designed to stop that sort of abuse of the consensus system. Everyone still gets to vote for FAs. We just get to check out everything to make sure it actually stands up to the standards the community has established. When you ask for a say because you voted for us, you've got it backwards. Your say was to vote for us. We're representatives of the community and the requirements created through the community's consensus. We're working for you, the greater community. We're not making up rules here, though personal interpretations of the specifics of rules will vary as personal interpretations are wont to do. However, there are 13 of us, and any aberrant personal interpretations will be canceled out by the greater weight of the rest of the Inquisitorius. In short, I don't see what your concern is, other than the fact that Fourdot is impolite (though impotent [and any issues with him should be taken up with him and not the Inquisitorius as a whole]) and that an article you happen to like has been targeted. Havac 00:11, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Complaint 2
Civility?&mdash;With threats of banning, accusations of ranting, and general hostility towarods those who criticize the Inq-system the civility of some of the Inqs is questionable. Worst of all is what seem to be disguised personal attacks on certain users, such as "Fat Tremane's" Inq-tip which to me seems (I am probably wrong) like an attack on a certain user who's been very vocal in his dislike of the Inq-system. Another example is the original incarnation of this page, which was called "Whine here!" and had a less that diplomatic, and more than sarcastic introductory test. If the Inqs want to maintain positive relations with the other users of Wookieepedia, and if they want to maintain a positive image, they will have to be better at receiving criticism. If they keep seeing criticism as attacks and if they keep responding to criticism in the same undiplomatic way, then the Inq-system will end up severely crippled. Note, I'm not saying that all Inqs are like this. Some are, and that will ruin the image of the entire Inq-group. KEJ 23:19, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Regarding the possible personal attack: Yes, that's probably directed at me. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 23:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The Tremayne pic has been removed. An IRC in-joke, I think. The "Whine here" thing was made by Atarumaster88, who reconsidered minutes later and moved this to a more appropriate name. I won't apologize for my statements on Palpatine's talk page; you both should know not to take the discussion off topic like that. Feel free to speak your mind here, however. -- http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/e/e5/ATATatarismall.png 23:30, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Not fishing for apologies. I'm pointing out that the behavior of some Inqs is uncivil, or seems uncivil, and their apparent lack of diplomatic skills and their apparent lacking capacity for receiving criticism is tactically bad if they want the Inq-system to be appreciated by other users. KEJ 23:40, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Consider this page a first step against just that kind of behavior. =) -- http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/e/e5/ATATatarismall.png 23:43, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, now, in its present incarnation, I will. But, really, the Inqs just can't allow themselves to be too emotionally involved (neither can we, for that matter). They'll have to be like Jedi. KEJ 23:46, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I've talked to 4dot on IRC and he's promised to keep his cool from now on. ;) -- http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/e/e5/ATATatarismall.png 23:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Anakin Skywalker style Jedi? ;) I agree, KEJ. --Eyrezer 23:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, like Qui-Gon then. KEJ 23:54, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Complaint 3 (aesthetic)
The name makes you look like a bunch of power trippers out to intimidate lesser users. I suggest changing it to "Featured Article Review Committee." &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 23:57, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * You have a point there. KEJ 23:58, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * You Cannot Be Serious. .  .  .  .  00:11, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm serious. I don't think that's what you're out to do, but the name can give that impression. It's not intuitively obvious what an "inquisitor" does, at least.  &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 00:15, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Complaint 4 (technical)
The Inq: pseudonamespace should be turned into a Forum: or Wookieepedia: subnamespace. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 23:57, 19 March 2007 (UTC)