Talk:Qui-Gon Jinn/Legends

Kwenn
I'm sorry. YIIMM 22:00, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Point was? - Kwenn 22:02, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

"He was also a master of disguises, having worn a moisture farmer's poncho to blend with the Mos Espa locals." Sorry but, LMAO, wearing a poncho over your Jedi robes makes you a "master of disguise"? Thanks for the laugh, whoever that was. I kinda needed that. :) --Beeurd 00:15, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
 * There are some other wacky items in this article. If I had read more of the TPM-era books, I would offer to clean this one up, but it's out of my league. Although from a layman's view, I don't feel that "abilities" is a good section to have -- he isn't a video game character all the time. --SparqMan 21:01, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
 * That actually wasn't a wacky item. The information appeared in an action figure booklet. --24.253.120.206 08:36, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Inclusion in an action figure booklet hardly qualifies an item as non-wacky. Those things can be a little over the top. They're certainly not intended to be encyclopedic. – Aidje talk 04:20, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Qui-Gon Jinn's Poncho
Can the poncho worn by Qui-Gon in ep1 be seen in Ben's hut?
 * Doubt it. It wouldn't make much sense. Why would Obi-wan keep his master's poncho disguise with him for 30+ years . . . ?Wstonefi 03:08, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Improvements
Fade's work is a vast improvement. I think we can at least clear the DOOM tag. I have bolded a few sentances that either read awkwardly, could use further explanation or need an in-line reference (as in it sounds like an IU quotation that needs attribution). You can see the bolded sections on the temp page. Also, a list of sources is required. --SparqMan 21:57, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

The correct quote is as follows: "Do not deify the council master! Not again!" I would appreciate no more "correcting" of this quote. If you don't agree that this is accurate watch The Phantom Menace with subtitles on.
 * I'm sorry, that made me laugh. He didn't "deify" them (revere them as gods). Lonnyd 11:45, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Japanese
I have heard that his name is japanese and means 'man who serves the Force'. Who can confirm this? MoffRebus 20:32, 9 Oct 2005 (UTC) talk 08:13, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * My roommate from Japan says that 'Jinn' sounds the same as the Japanese word for 'person.' He says that the rest of it isn't Japanese, but proposes that it may be Chinese (which he wouldn't know). – Aidje talk 02:33, 17 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * I guess Qui is for Qi or Chi, the equivalent of the Force. Now to know about Gon :) BTW could you ask him how someone could translate 'Person who serves the Qi' in Japanese? MoffRebus 11:16, 18 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * A jinn is a spirit that reveals one's true nature. There was a great article somewhere on jinns that fit perfectly with what we know of Qui-Gon's role post-TPM, but I can't seem to find it now - Kwenn
 * Well, jinn=genie=jinni=jinnee=djinni=djinny, it that's what you mean. I'll ask my roommate about your last question, MoffRebus. Tomorrow, though. It 2:12 a.m. right now, so he's asleep (he's the smart one). – Aidje
 * Qi is pronounced "Key" not "Kwai," and a djinn is just a male genie, a trickster spirit, i suppose one could "reveal one's true nature," but that's a stretch. Lonnyd 11:48, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
 * The Japanese roomate was referring to 人 (jin, pronounced like 'gene') which is used most frequently in reference to what country a person is from 'アメリカ人' (Amerika-jin) means American. jin/hito=person, like you said. Now if it were 'Jiin' '寺院' it would mean temple... As for Chinese, let me check the subtitles to see how it was translated...OK, just checked. They use 金('jin' symbol for wealth) 魁('kui' meaning leader) 剛 ('gang' meaning tough/strong), so...there you have it =D Cariel 19:29, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Lightsabers?
Can anyone give me a source for the object that is alleged to be Qui-Gon's "first" lightsaber in this article? It seems a little dubious to me. If it is, canon, can someone give a source? -Angel Blue 451 22:21, 12 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * It's from thelightsaber.com, and is apparently based on the sabre you can see in the 'Young Dooku' picture. Still, the image of the sabre itself is non-canon (made by the owner of the site) - Kwenn

The saber in the "Young Dooku" picture doesn't look that different from the TPM saber. I was under the impression that the contents of thelightsaber.com do not represent any degree of canon, EU or otherwise. I didn't think non-canon was represented here without being designated as such, but I'm fairly new here, so I will defer to the judgment of those with more experience. - Angel Blue 451 03:43, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Thelightsaber.com does adhere to canon for the most part, but also includes a fair few fan-speculations and fan-made creations. I think it's best to remove this 'first sabre', since there doesn't appear to be a source for it, and isn't an official image anyway - Kwenn

I agree. Should I remove it? - Angel Blue 451 23:44, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * This lightsaber's entry on thelightsaber.com says "Saber Source: Custom Creation". I'd say delete. - Sikon [ Talk ] 08:02, 15 Nov 2005 (UTC)

New picture for consideration
I have uploaded an image that I feel would be a good addition to this article. I've been working on this with the preview function for a while, but I wanted for everyone else to have a say in how it is included. Here is the pic, along with a possible caption:



Any thoughts? - Angel Blue 451 05:22, 11 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * It's a good one. Shows him in the heat of battle, almost as if he could win it. -- Riffsyphon1024 05:50, 11 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree with Riff. I'll crop the edges and it'll be perfect. --Master Starkeiller 13:39, 11 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Here: [[Image:Jinn Fights Maul.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Qui-Gon battles the [[Sith Lord]] Darth Maul]]


 * It looks excellent. Now, where do we place it? (apologies for my absence by the way, explanation is on my talk page). - Angel Blue 451 03:39, 12 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Would you prefer this one:

? --Master Starkeiller 14:55, 6 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * That last picture is excellent, i think it should also be put into Darth Maul's article as well. Jasca Ducato 15:57, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Reorganizing
I've noticed that most of what is under "Early life" should be moved to a Personality section. I've done some writing on his apprenticeship with Dooku and his training with Xanatos. I'm going to add it in and make the moves that I mentioned. Just figured I'd let you all know my reasoning before I make any drastic changes. DarthMaul431 20:24, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Main Image
Another rousing game of is the image good enough.--Redemption 23:28, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't like it because the background is way too dark. I changed it back to the close up image.--DannyBoy7783 18:32, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Drug-Rug
It is rumoured that Qui-Gon felt that when one was going to Brodo Asogi, it was neccesary to wear flowers in one's hair. He also felt it was the dawning of the age of Aquarius. Feel free to let me know if you are sick of my commentary. Lonnyd 12:09, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
 * wtf.--DannyBoy7783 17:39, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * WHAT THE HECK!!! What are you talking about?!?
 * WTF!!! You idiot, you've been smoking something haven't you!
 * You're either high or insane or both.

Quote
Might I suggest changing the quote at the top of the page to something that Qui-Gon himself said? I would reccomend changing it to "Be mindful of the Living Force, young padawan" as that line basically sums up his philisophical ideals. -- Brandon Rhea 01:21, 29 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I like that idea, and not just because he didn't say the quote himself. The current quote also made him sound like he was bad. Changing the quote is fine with me.
 * Hoping no one minds, but I changed the quote to Brandon Rhea's suggestion and included a link. If anyone else has a quote they think would fit better, feel free to change it again. Maybe, "I shall do as I must"? Or something... Just mindless suggestions. Anyway, I only changed it because "Be mindful of the Living Force, young Padawan" did fit much better than any quote by Obi-Wan, or any other character other than Qui-Gon. Again, I hope no one minds.

A question...
Quote from the article: ...Qui-Gon took an unknown Padawan, whose training was almost complete.

Does this mean that he took a Padawan whose training at the Temple was almost complete, or did he take a Padawan who was in the middle of training with another Master? (I want to know this A.) because I'm a Qui-Gon fanatic, and B.) because it's relevant to a fanfic I'm writing.)

If someone could answer my question, I'd be very happy. Thanks :)
 * The latter. It is assumed he took over when the padawan's master died. QuentinGeorge 21:14, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. Thanks. (from the same person who posted 'A Question')