Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Battle of Kessel (0 ABY) (second nomination)

Second Battle of Kessel

 * Nominated by: Kilson 02:02, March 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:Going back to the basics, Renegade Squadron battles. Man, I remember creating this page four years ago.

Support

 * 1)  —Tommy  9281  Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 12:50 UTC

Toprawa

 * You don't need to use the full ref code in every single use of a reference. Use the full reference one and the abbreviated code in all subsequent instances. Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:47, March 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, that was me just being a little lazy. The references were already set up like that when I started editting, so I didn't feel like changing them. They're fixed now. Kilson 03:09, March 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, well, doing it that way isn't really an option. This is how referencing is to be formatted, according to Wookieepedia's Sourcing policy. Please find it in you to avoid being lazy in the future. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:28, March 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * What is the purpose behind capitalizing "Wookiee Warriors" and "Rebel Vanguards" in the infobox? Can/should "warrior" and "vanguard" not just be de-capitalized?
 * Fixed
 * What is the purpose behind designating the Victory II frigate as a "Star frigate"? The article treats the ship's formal name as simply Victory II-class frigate.
 * Fixed
 * Would it be appropriate to provide a link/article for the ISD participating in this battle?
 * Made a small article, what do you think?
 * I'm curious where the title "Space Battle of Kessel" comes from. Is this purely conjectural? If so, we should probably consider moving the article to "Space battle of Kessel," as there's no canonical reason to formally capitalize "battle" in such a case. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:07, March 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Wait, do you mean "Second battle of Kessel" or "Space battle of Kessel"?
 * If the Millennium Falcon participates in the battle, which the main image clearly suggests, it too should be listed among the Rebel strength in the infobox. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:09, March 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep, you're right. Done. Kilson 23:35, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

The Premier

 * 1) A number of redirects are present in the article. They should be removed.
 * OK, I removed the only two redirects I could find. If you find any more, please tell me.
 * 1) **"Rebel vangaurds" in the infobox. "Space" in the intro. In the last paragraph, force-field and shield generator. "Jedi archives" in the aftermath. That's it. I highly recommend setting it up where you can see redirects, as someone on your other nomination said. Corellian PremierRobotech.jpg along the watchtower 02:58, March 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) ***It took me a little time, but I finally managed to set up the redirect finder. If they're not fixed now, I am color blind!
 * 3) The middle "battle" paragraph needs to be expanded. How were the defenses "seriously weakened?"
 * 4) *I gave some context to seriously weakened, but I can't expand that paragraph anymore unless I fill it with useless fluff. There really isn't anymore information I could put in there.
 * 5) No good quote for "aftermath" section?
 * 6) *Not really, the best I could find from the game is the head quote from the Mission to Mos Eisley (Galactic Civil War) article, and I'm not sure if it fits with this article given the fact it really doesn't have anything to do with Battle of Kessel itself.
 * 7) In the BTS, could you discuss the game mechanics of the game--that shooting down six TIE fighters is an objective, and the Victory-SD turrets as well. Corellian PremierRobotech.jpg along the watchtower 21:52, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * 8) *I added a little context to the Bts, what do you think? Kilson 23:35, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * 9) **Two more things for the BTS..."where the player must assist RS..." Isn't the player part of the squadron? And I was looking for something more along the lines of "the mission objectives specify the player to take out six tie fighters." I think it is necessary to spell it out, otherwise a reader could assume taking out six ties is gamemechanics or something. Corellian PremierRobotech.jpg along the watchtower 02:58, March 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * 10) ***Reworded what I said, how does it sound now?
 * 11) Some useful tips I learned in my first GAN: In the infobox, if a quantity is unknown, (like the Imperial commander), just leave it blank, and to caveat that, we don't need an asterisk for just one bit of data (ie "a few members of Renegade Squadron). And for the outcomes, use asterisks instead of semi-colons to list the results. Corellian PremierRobotech.jpg along the watchtower 03:13, March 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * 12) *Thanks for the tip, infoboxes have never been my strong suite, it should be fixed now.
 * 13) Solo wasn't a General yet, was he?
 * 14) *You're right, I was confusing it with the fact Serra refers to Solo as a General later on in the story. It should be fixed now.
 * 15) I hate to say this, but we need to include the Imperial troops onboard the Star Destroyer&mdash;right? Corellian PremierRobotech.jpg along the watchtower 03:13, March 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * 16) *The devil is in the details. Fixed that, and all your other objections should be fixed too. Kilson 06:21, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * 17) **Excellent work. Corellian PremierRobotech.jpg along the watchtower 16:11, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Comments

 * 1) Would we need to add anything from the CSWE, if said information exists? Corellian PremierRobotech.jpg along the watchtower 21:52, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) *I believe we don't, but hold on, I posted a request on the Forum:Entry requests for Renegade Squadron's CSWE entry, just to be sure.
 * 3) **I was correct, the entry mentioned nothing about the battle. Kilson 06:21, March 12, 2011 (UTC)