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Iving Creel

 * Nominated By:Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:11, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination Comments:

(+5)
Support
 * 1) Your articles on ESB-related stuff never fails to amaze me.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 21:34, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 2)  Aqua  Unasi  16:21, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 19:26, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) I love that story! Harrar 09:54, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) --Eyrezer 10:21, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Xadún's scrawlings...
 * 2) *If Jaster Mereel is Boba Fett, all further refences to 'Mereel' should read Fett. Otherwise, it can be misleading as to whether it is Fett or Mereel (irrespective of who everyone else thought he was).
 * 3) **I don't necessarily believe this is the best course of action for this particular article. I agree with what you're saying, and pushed for the very thing on the Nyna Calixte article in regards to the Calixte vs. Morrigan Corde persona alternating. However, in this stage of Fett's life, while living on Concord Dawn he strictly went by the name of Jaster Mereel, and did not alternate between the two. Your suggestion would serve better on the Fett article, I feel, where it would be silly to alternate between the two. From Iving Creel's perspective, however, he only knew the man as Jaster Mereel.
 * 4) **The fact that Creel knew Fett under an alias for the duration of their contact does not chance the fact that the character is Boba Fett, and not Jaster Mereel. The names should be changed, or the Article is written from a perspective, and therefore has bias to a character. Articles need to be neutral, to the best of their ability. Darth Xadún ( Consult the Holocron ) 20:07, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) ***I think you're misinterpreting the idea of the NPOV rule. Articles on certain characters are meant to be written from their perspective while maintaining a neutral description of what's going on, in terms of not showing bias toward, for example, right and wrong. This isn't a violation of the neutral perspective in that sense, it's showing the situation from Creel's angle, as in he and the planet of Concorn Down knew the man as Jaster Mereel. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:26, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) ****On that arguement, I concede it is a neutral POV. But since Mereel in this instance is just an alias, surely all references to him should read Fett? Darth Xadún ( Consult the Holocron ) 08:54, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) *****If I may chime in, I agree with Toprawa, though I understand where Xadún is coming from. I'll give you another example: in The Paradise Snare, for the majority of the book Han Solo is known only as Vyyk Draygo to everyone on the planet Ylesia, and no-one knows his true identity. However, when writing Bria Tharen or Teroenza's articles, it would make more sense to refer to him as "Draygo" initially, because that is who they knew him as and it saves an unnecessary explanation of who Draygo actually is. Does that make sense? -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 10:51, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) ******I can see what you mean. But I feel aliases should be mentioned initially, specified as being an alias, and then disregarded, as they are usually invented persons. But this instance could be even more confusing as the alias was an actual person. Interestingly, "Vyyk Drago" isn't mentioned in the entire Bria Tharen article (I don't possess the sources to add it unfortunately), and after one reference to his alias, Han is refered to as either Solo or Han Solo for the remained of the Teroenza article. The latter is what I feel should be applied here. An initial reference, then using the chacter's real name.  Darth Xadún ( Consult the Holocron ) 11:01, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) *******I would like to point out, going back to your original concern for this objection, confusion, is that the article clearly explains in both the intro and biography that this Jaster Mereel character is, in actuality, Boba Fett. The intro: "Creel visited an imprisoned Journeyman Protector—Boba Fett, going by the name Jaster Mereel—who had been detained after murdering a corrupt fellow Protector." ...and the bio: "Creel entered the jail cell of a recently imprisoned young Journeyman Protector of Concord Dawn going by the name Jaster Mereel, in reality the young bounty hunter Boba Fett." I can't imagine where your confusion is coming from. Again, in keeping with the perspective of the central focus of this article - Iving Creel and, secondary, Concord Dawn - there was never a murder trial for Boba Fett. It was Jaster Mereel's murder trial. Toprawa and Ralltiir 14:49, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) * A little more info on Fett when you introduce him would be nice.
 * 11) **Added.
 * 12) * "Unknown to Creel was that the man had raped Fett's wife, Sintas, causing Fett to seek vengeance." Re-phrase this so it makes sense, and always use full names when mentioning a character for the first time in an article.
 * 13) **I added this, so I feel like I should ensure it make sense. Changed the sentence a little, though it still refers to him as Fett rather than mereel, because she was Fett's wife, after all, not Mereel, as in his fake identity.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 23:36, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) ***Thanks, Chack.
 * 15) * Infobox - Either put a canonically confirmed birth date or leave it blank, please
 * 16) **I don't think this is necessarily that bad of a practice. While we don't have an exact DOB for the man, we know from the book's description of Creel that he is canonically several years Boba Fett's senior, and thus was born sometime in the time frame prior to Fett's birth in 31.5 BBY. A similar infobox can be found on the Clabburn the Elder Featured Article. Mind you, this isn't just a random assumption based on whether someone appears older than someone who is a teenager, for example. This is indeed a canonical description. Toprawa and Ralltiir 14:15, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 17) *** Just because it's slipped though on an FA doesn't make it correct. If this was the case, all character articles could have an "approximate" DOB based on how old they are compared to canonically age-defined characters. And that, IMHO, would just look amateurish.
 * 18) ****Once again, I think you're misinterpreting the meaning behind including this. Nothing "slipped by" the Inquisitors. Of course any and all article could include a "Sometime before X date," but the uniqueness of these instances is that the they are canonically described to be born around this time, rather than just guessing based on someone's appearance. If we could give a certain date for Creel we would, but we're working with what we have. In this instance, we're nailing it down as close as canonically possible. There's nothing amateurish about this at all. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:26, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 19) ***** A poor example on my part. The problem I have is that where there is no definate date given, I feel there should not be a speculated date. I understand that sources will not always grant the necessary information - it would serve no purpose to outline a character's whole history within a storyline. But I feel that unless you can actualy confirm a character's DOB it shouldn't be in an article, vauge canonical reference or not. How about, as compromise, remove the unconfirmed DOB from the infobox but refer to his age in the BtS as unconfirmed with the canonical reference to an approximate birth date?
 * 20) ******This isn't really a valid objection. You're not showing me any concrete evidence not to include it. There is nothing speculative about the date, and it is 100% verified canon. Aside from the FAs I've already showed you, we now have a persistent precedent with the Dhol article, which employs a similar example of the "unclear" DOB/DOD deal. Toprawa and Ralltiir 16:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 21) ******* I guess I'm the only one that finds the absense of an exact date irksome. And if that's the case, I just don't want to be at loggerheads with people. Darth Xadún ( Consult the Holocron ) 20:38, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 22) *Not bad. I like GAN/FANs on people I've never heard of, mainly because I think it's easier to judge them without bias. Darth Xadún ( Consult the Holocron ) 20:20, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * Not really opposition since I'm not sure - but as Revelation had extra information on the case, should that be added to the article? Also, is Creel mentioned (either directly or indirectly) in the book? - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 10:40, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Is this the case where the man Fett killed was guilty of raping Sintas? I believe it is, and that thus needs to be added. I don't think Creel is referenced, but I could be wrong.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 00:10, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, very interesting. I'm not sure, since I've never read Revelation. If someone could shed some definitive light on this, it would be greatly appreciated. Toprawa and Ralltiir 00:41, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm almost positive this is the case mentioned. I'll add the info for you in the next day or two unless someone else does it first.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 21:45, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Saba Sebatyne

 * Nominated by:Markrox91 10:50, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:I've done alot of work on this article in the last few weeks,and i now believee it is of good quality; the introduction now gives a summary of the article, the actual article is much more comprehensive and is now much more adaquaetly referenced.--Markrox91 10:50, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

(+0)
Support
 * 1) Now if only we can GA Tesar.  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( You're all clear kid! )( Now let's blow this thing and go home! ) 21:20, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Wynssa Fel 15:48, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Needs Personality and traits section and one for Behind the scenes.  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  20:36, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Toprawa:
 * 3) *Everything must be sourced, including the infobox and every paragraph.
 * 4) **Some paragraphs are still missing sources, and the intro should not be sourced. Toprawa and Ralltiir 15:59, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) * Quotes must not be located in the middle of a section, only at the top of sections
 * 6) * Ref notes should come after punctuation, not before, and not two spaces after punctuation
 * 7) *Certainly some more quotes could be found to head up these sections
 * 8) *Please use the Insider template for the appropriate sources.
 * 9) **And as a personal recommendation to both the nominator and those who have voted on this article so far, please read the rules at the top of the GAN page and familiarize yourselves with our Manual of Style before nominating or voting on articles. Do not just vote on something because you like the concept of an article. Thank you. Toprawa and Ralltiir 16:11, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) ***I've addressed all of, or close to all, your concerns. And please don't think i nominated this article on pure whim; i worked very long and very hard on it. Congradulations on becoming an administrator, by the way =]--Markrox91 09:36, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) ****You've still got a bit of work to do to satisfy the objections above. And thank you for your comment. :) Toprawa and Ralltiir 16:03, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) Missing info from Enemy Lines. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 21:18, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * 1) Have added Personality and traits section, as well as the Behind the scenes one.--Markrox91 02:12, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) I have written the German article about Saba and I think that she finished her jedi training before the Yuuzhan Vong war has begun. Wynssa Fel 20:35, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) You are right! I've just taken care of it and placed the info about her Jedi training under Master Eelysa in an Early Life section =]--Markrox91 10:22, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Yeah I'm right!^^ I have there one more thing which I had already written on the discussion: In the introductory sentence stand, that Saba was promoted to a Jedi Master after the Yuuzhan Vong War but wasn't she in Star by Star at that rank? Wynssa Fel 21:14, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Nope, because she was the only Jedi Knight to be a member of the Galactic Alliance High Council which wasn't created until Destiny's Way.--Markrox91 10:57, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Peshk Vri'syk

 * Nominated by: -- Colinmcev 05:28, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination Comments: Another X-wing Bothan... -- Colinmcev 05:28, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

(+4)
Support
 * 1) -  Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 08:11, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) --Eyrezer 04:08, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 11:31, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:08, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Object
 * I think the first two sentences of the intro need to be reworkd. They sseem to repeat themselves. Also, are there any quotes said by Peshk himself? --Eyrezer 06:17, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I think the only problem was repeating Rogue Squadron's name twice. I fixed it. Better? As for the quotes, there are literally NO quotes ever spoken by Peshk. It was hard enough finding things people said about him! lol -- Colinmcev 15:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I've edited it myself so that the BMA bit is not sandwiched between info on Rouge Squadron. Let me know if that's alright. --Eyrezer 04:21, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Tis fine. -- Colinmcev 12:29, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd like to see a minor addition to the last section. In Isard's Revenge, Wedge remembers Peshk among the pilots who've perished who were closest to him, along with Ibtisam and a few others. It shows that Wedge never forgot him, and that he was fond of him. Other than that, good work as usual on a marginal X-wing character. :-D -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 15:31, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Marginal X-wing character is my middle name! :D Added the reference; looks like it's still a few words shy of 1,000... -- Colinmcev 03:41, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) From the squadron briefing of Cavalier One:
 * 2) * I'm not sure if linking the Bothan Combat Response Element is wise - there's no mention of it outside the DarkStryder Campaign as far as I know, and the only information given is that it is a Bothan fleet, under Bothan control, allied to the NR. The exact form of attachment is currently unknown. Unless specifically refered to in Rogue Squadron, I would remove that link.
 * 3) **Ok. -- Colinmcev 23:22, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) * Did Vri'syk request the transfer, or was he put forward by the Bothans? - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 13:09, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) **Checked back and couldn't find a specific answer, so I changed the wording to be more vague. -- Colinmcev 23:22, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) Xadún's Dun Möch - as requested.
 * 7) *"...pilot Asyr Sei'lar, who was his equal when they were trained" - Do we know this for certain, or is it just a claim made Sei'lar?
 * 8) **I suppose it's just her own claim. Added that to the article. -- Colinmcev 06:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) *"Bothan politicians, particularly Borsk Fey'lya of the New Republic Provisional Council, were pushing for a member of their species to be placed in Rogue Squadron due to the assistance Bothan spies provided the Rebel Alliance with the plans for the Death Star II, which ultimately led to the Imperial battle station's destruction." This sentence doens't make grammatical sense. Also, didn't the Feyl'lya or another Bothan want a Rogue squadron pilot because of the prestige of the squadron's name? I seem to recall the Bothan Council wanting a part of than legacy that came with Rogue Squadron. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 * 10) **All the references I've found in the book are Bothans using the Death Star II thing as the leverage to get a pilot into Rogue Squadron, in addition to the neutrality thing I mentioned. Didn't see anything about the Bothan Council. I reworded the sentence. -- Colinmcev 06:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) *I think you should mention the fact Vri'syk flew an X-wing much earlier than the "Death" section - I recommend incorporating it into the line about being designated Rogue Two.
 * 12) ** Added it to the Rogue Squadron section. -- Colinmcev 06:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 13) *Any references available to previous piloting experience available? E.g. the sorts of ships he flew At the Bothan Academy.
 * 14) ** Not in the source material that includes Peshk, so I don't think it would be appropriate to include. -- Colinmcev 06:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 15) *Is Vri'syk not mentioned in the Bacta War? Since Sei'lar Takes over his position, I thought their might be another appearence. Since the Opening Bio quote is from The Krytos Trap, I was a little curious.
 * 16) ** He's not mentioned, I looked all over. And actually, I think she took over his position in Krytos Trap, not Bacta War, which explains the lack of a mention. -- Colinmcev 06:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 17) *I think this is better than Kre'fey. Keep up the good work, Col. Darth Xadún ( Consult the Holocron ) 08:48, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 18) Toprawa:
 * 19) * Can we clarify/expand on this to explain why they were happy to see him after this mission? "and reacted apathetically to Horn after the Folor mission, while the other pilots were happy to see him." Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:18, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 20) **I added that. A reference to the targeting data thing is in the story already, but if you feel it needs any further clarification, let me know or feel free to reword yourself. -- Colinmcev 23:25, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 21) ***It's fine. I just like for P/T sections, etc., to reiterate information that may already be in the bio. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:08, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Lady Tarkin

 * Nominated by:Ozzel 01:18, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:

(+0)
Support
 * 1) Darth Star... DC 15:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Colinmcev 05:12, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) POV-ish header: "Megonite megalomaniac." --Imperialles 01:20, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) She the proceeded her banquet hall to host the Imperial Diplomatic Conclave, for guests such as Shea Hublin, Chancellor Qua of the Zenox Star Cluster, the Most High Proctor of Thebeon 8, and Darth Vader himself. By this do you mean She then proceeded to her banquet hall to host the Imperial Diplomatic Conclave for guests such as Shea Hublin, Chancellor Qua of the Zenox Star Cluster, the Most High Proctor of Thebeon 8 and Darth Vader himself? Soresumakashi 09:23, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) *Indeed. Fixed. -- Ozzel 11:02, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Darth Star? Is this like a mistake or joke or something of that sort? =D DC 12:10, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) *I think that was the original name. :-p Nah, I typed that once and then was clumsy enough to copy it, and then I didn't catch either one. -- Ozzel 21:39, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * 7) * The intro is a bit confusing with which Tarkin is being referenced.
 * 8) **Addressed. -- Ozzel 08:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) *"Her fate is unknown". This must die on sight.
 * 10) **I'll think about this one some more. -- Ozzel 08:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 20:52, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) Nice job with this, and cool subject. A few suggestions... -- Colinmcev 02:56, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 13) * Could you try rewording "Lady Tarkin was the cousin of Commander Conan Motti—and it was for the connection to her powerful relatives such as he that Wilhuff Tarkin married the woman." You already mentioned the Motti family in the previous sentence, so perhaps something like "Wilhuff Tarkin married her due to her powerful family connections, such as her cousin, Commander Conan Motti" or something like that? -- Colinmcev 02:56, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) **Done. -- Ozzel 08:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 15) * I don't feel strongly about this objection, but I'm not sure this needs to be in the behind the scenes: "Also, no source has yet indicated whether or not she was aware of her husband's affair with Natasi Daala." -- Colinmcev 02:56, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 16) **I wouldn't be crushed if it was removed, but I thought it was worth noting because it's a pretty major part of her character that we don't know. If she didn't know about Daala, then she was just blindly devoted to Wilhuff, but if she did, then that puts a different spin on things. And since the Biography was written with the knowledge of Daala, someone might just assume that she knew, so I thought it was best to make it clear that we don't know either way. -- Ozzel 08:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 17) ***Fair enough. -- Colinmcev 05:12, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Fall of Bastion

 * Nominated by: DC 07:17, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Insert smart-aleck comment here.

(+4)
Support
 * 1)  Aqua  Unasi  02:46, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Good work (GOOD! ged it?? ;D) - Kingpin13Cantina Battle Ground 07:03, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Graestan ( Talk ) 23:57, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 17:45, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Kingpin13:
 * 2) * Bold in quote. Now I’m aware that this is from a comic, but I’m not sure about the bold. I’d say change this to just italic.
 * 3) **Un-bolded it.
 * 4) * Could use, if possible with-out messing up the article layout, one or two more images.
 * 5) **It would screw up the layout. Im sorry. =(
 * 6) * I haven’t read this comic, as I’m not a big fan of comics. But are you sure that it doesn’t have more appearances? (e.g. mentioned in the next comic)
 * 7) **It is mentioned in more issues. I guess I forgot about that. =P
 * 8) * ”Though his daughter was on the run, Fel ordered his Imperial Knights, especially Draco and Krieg, to keep away from Marasiah” could be expanded worded better (i.e. Why especially Draco and Krieg? Why should they keep away from her anyway?).
 * 9) **Expanded on that.
 * 10) *Otherwise seems like a good article to me, I might spot a few more things, and quite a lot of the spelling was off, don’t know if I got it all so you may want to check over that. Keep it up! - Kingpin13Cantina Battle Ground
 * 11) **Thanks for the review. DC 02:28, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) From the homeword filled desk of Aqua Unasi
 * 13) * Can you source the Previous, Concurrent, and Next battles in the infobox?
 * 14) **I believed that was aganist the MOS, but I checked some battle FA's, and they have those sourced. Fixed.
 * 15) * With Bastion under Fel's command, Fel moved to gather his forces against Fel, hoping to keep his quiet takeover of Bastion a secret to the galaxy, especially to Krayt. I'm assuming one of those Fels is supposed to be something else...
 * 16) **Yes, I see whre you're coming from. Fixed.
 * 17) * Ditto on Kingpin's objection: Why did Fel order the Knights to stay away from his daughter?
 * 18) **See the above.
 * 19) *Nice article :)  Aqua  Unasi  16:08, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 20) **Thanks for the review. DC 02:27, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Lon Bennor

 * Nominated by: - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 14:56, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Short, sweet, maybe not particularly interesting, but not bad for a character who is only mentioned in one paragraph. - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 14:56, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

(+4)
Support Oppose
 * 1) Jedimca0(Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 09:20, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Pixelle ( Talk! ) 16:15, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:20, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Don't you ever get tired of writing these things? ;)  Aqua  Unasi  00:27, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Tren

 * Nominated by: Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 11:15, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Another short, sweet, one paragraph mention character. - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 11:15, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

(+4)
Support
 * 1) Nice little article. Pixelle ( Talk! ) 13:28, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Toprawa and Ralltiir 14:24, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  11:52, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 4)  Aqua  Unasi  00:27, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) In the last sentence of the "Behind the scenes" you use the word 'adventure' three times. Is there a chance that that could be reworded a bit so as to get rid of some of the repetition?  Pixelle ( Talk! ) 16:10, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *Done. - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 07:31, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Kause

 * Nominated by: Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 17:10, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination Comments: On a DarkStryder roll ... - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 17:10, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

(+3)
Support Oppose
 * 1) A few minor fixes made, but overall a nice little article :) Pixelle ( Talk! ) 16:24, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) - Kingpin13Cantina Battle Ground 11:47, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:48, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 4)  Aqua  Unasi  00:27, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Kingpin:
 * 2) * Just a couple of things, firstly, can you make it a bit more Kause's story, rather than the council's? If not then could you just add "Kause and the council" in place of "the council".
 * 3) **Added in several cases.
 * 4) * And secondly, in the personality and traits section, could you change the wording slightly, so that instead of saying why he did certain things, you say that he had such and such personality, if that's not possible then that's fine.
 * 5) **Ah, the bane of documenting RPG characters! Unfortunately, Kause is given no specific personality traits since he is a minor NPC in the adventure. At lot of the information in the P&T only works in context.
 * 6) * A couple more things I've noticed since then: Does this person have a known surname?
 * 7) **No - Kause is the only name given for him, and since he is identified as Councilor Kause, I assume it is his surname.
 * 8) * And I presumed last time that there wasn't any images of him, just thought I should check that. If he doesn't have images of him please try and add images of related things.
 * 9) **No images of him at all, and the only image in the entire adventure is this one which I don't really think adds to the article since it is not related to Kause specifically.
 * 10) *Great article and I don't really see this as an objection, rather some things that could possibly be improved, if not then I'll still support this whole-heartedly - Kingpin13Cantina Battle Ground 11:47, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) **Thanks for the review. - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 08:11, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

 * Nominated by: NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 03:03, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination Comments: I think it may finally be ready... NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 03:03, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

(+0)
Support

Oppose
 * 1) An excess of redlinks and the synopsis needs to be written in present tense.  Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 14:14, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *There is no limit towards how many redlinks can be in a GA. DC 15:50, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) **Additionally, in-universe articles are to be written in past tense, per the Manual of Style. // ~mikah~  01:44, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) **Redlinks I was wrong about then, but a synopsis is always written in present tense. Look at the film articles. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 13:49, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) ***Again, directly from the Manual of Style itself, "All in-universe articles should be in past tense, per 'A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...'" Only out-of-universe articles (ie, George Lucas, John Williams) should be written in present tense. Despite whatever tense the film articles are written in, if its not past tense, its wrong. // ~mikah~  14:09, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) ****This is not an in-universe article. Stylistically, plot summaries for anything almost anywhere are in the present tense&mdash;the MoS doesn't contradict this in any way, because this is an OOU article. "In contrast, articles about books, movies, games, or other real-life Star Wars material should obviously be written from an out-of-universe perspective, but should still be noted as such." Our OOU FAs also use this system, and so should this article. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 14:20, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) *****I see what you mean now, I misread what I was reading. So that would be a prominent problem with the article. I'll go ahead and try to fix as much as I can for now. And sorry about the confusion, Drewton. // ~mikah~  14:27, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) ******Fixed NaruHina  Talk[[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 03:59, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There is no mention I can see that the soundtrack was composed by Jeremy Soule --Jinzler 09:33, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Addressed NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 06:39, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Q-series droideka

 * Nominated by: -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)  (Chow) 01:28, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination Comments: Attempt #2. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)  (Chow) 01:28, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

(+1)
Support
 * 1) Seems good to me, somebody else might spot something, but at the moment I can't see anything, nice article. - Kingpin13Cantina Battle Ground 18:31, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) From the homework strewn Aqua Unasi
 * 2) *After my quick read through, it's a very good article, and for me the only issue is with the sourcing for it. It's tricky with it being a very similar variant of the droideka. It appears the sources and appearances list contains onones that specifically state Q-series Droideka, which is good. My question is, is there still information about droidekas in general in the article?
 * 3) **For example, there's the information in the article taken from Suvivor's Quest'. I just read Survivor's Quest and is the Q-series specifically in there? I don't believe so, plus Survivor's Quest is not on the appearances list. I would go through and make sure you only talk about what is known about the Q-series, not talking about things known just about the droideka in general.
 * 4) **Also, some things about the characteristics of the Q-series. Is it anywhere stated that all of the physical aspects of it were the same as the droidekas, or something like only this one thing is different and the rest are the same as other droidekas? It may very well be, but if it's not said, characteristics based solely off the droideka may have to be removed. Example: the height 1.83 meters in the infobox might not be able to be sourced by something referring only to droidekas unless you have proof that their characteristics are the same.
 * 5) *A good article and nice work - once these things are sorted through I'll support, though I may come back after looking at it with more detail. :P  Aqua  Unasi  18:42, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I see what you're saying. This is tricky business indeed here. While I can't find a specific source that says the Q-series had everything the original had, a simple comparison of the pictures shows this. Since this model is a variant of the original droideka, I believe the same facts regarding the original model should be allowed in the article unless a specific source states otherwise (e.g. that the Q-series were not 1.83 meters). -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)  (Chow) 22:40, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hm, I see what you are saying too. Any other users' opinoins on this?  Aqua  Unasi  02:23, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Toprawa:
 * 2) *You still need to handle the objections you failed to address the first time around, found here. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:26, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) **Okay, I've just addressed your objection relating to the eras. I'll deal with Ackbar's objection later. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)  (Chow) 15:15, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Tetrum

 * Nominated by: Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 18:54, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination Comments: More DarkStryder. I hope everyone is paying attention - there will be a quiz later.

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Support

Oppose

Comments

Rainboh

 * Nominated by: Thefourdotelipsis 02:04, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: I'm sorry, but that's all there is. All must experience the joy of Rainboh.

(+7)
Support
 * 1) All hail first-grade art!  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( Oya Manda! ) 02:09, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2)  NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 03:08, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) All I have to say is....wow.... DC 03:20, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Now do Jeby! -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 05:18, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Fastest GA evar? -- Ozzel 08:26, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) Somewhere, under the rainboh...I support temporarily waiving the FA length rules so this can be on the front page. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 12:02, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) I love it. The article is good too. -- Zakor1138 00:50, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) Very well written, considering the topic in question. I find it a shame the article is so short for such an interesting concept, though I suppose such is to be expected. Can't wait to use this to one of my future stories. // ~mikah~  01:54, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Actually, can we get a mention of its canonicity? I believe Chee has mentioned this somewhere. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 14:25, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *I think that's stated on the Design an Alien page. Thefourdotelipsis 23:46, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Battle of the TIE Fighter Construction Facility

 * Nominated by: DjMack
 * Nomination comments: This would be my first real good article I wrote entirely by myself, just point out to me anything that needs fixing, I want to be criticized and become a better writer. SPOILERS FOR FORCE UNLEASHED, BEWARE.

(+3)
Support
 * 1) Good work. --Jedimca0(Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 11:02, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * :)  Aqua  Unasi  19:11, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) DC 21:17, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) From the post-it of DC
 * 2) * Indecisive victory? For who?
 * 3) *You need an aftermath section for the battle.
 * 4) *This article was fantastic, DjMack, it was very well written. DC 18:09, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Aqua Unasi
 * 6) *Great article. Very well written indeed. A few things:
 * 7) ** You need an tag.
 * 8) ** A few things are unsourced: The first paragraph of Prelude, The two paragraphs in the Aftermath section, and a few things in the infobox.
 * 9) **Also, I went in and changed these for you, but a thing to remember for future articles is to put a tag on the article when nominating it. Also, don't forget to link to your references, and that they go immediately after punctuation, with no space between.
 * 10) *I hope to see more articles from you in the future! :)  Aqua  Unasi  19:27, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * Oh, next time you nominate something that recently came out, just make sure to say that there are spoilers. DC 18:04, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I added everything. DjMack 01:47, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Tam Elgrin

 * Nominated by: Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing
 * Nomination comments: I got this idea from Acky. Thanks Acky!

(+6)
Support
 * 1) You sure this is your first? 00:23, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|20px]] 05:12, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Great article, man. Very clean. DC 18:10, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 4)  Aqua  Unasi  19:11, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) I have have something of an interest in this article. ;-) Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 00:53, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) As noted, with some extra work, this could be taken to FA. - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 07:35, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) From the destroyed planet of Jorrel Fraajic
 * 2) * If you use only reference in a paragraph, you are able to keep it at the end of said paragraph. There's no need to source sentences if they all come from the same source in that paragraph.
 * 3) * There's also a way to streamline the references so you don't have to type out the entire thing. For example, take Waru. Most of this information falls under The Crystal Star; however, after the initial ref, I'm able to not have to type out . Instead I can simply write . In your case, all of the after the first can simply be . It's not really an objection so much as a suggestion, but I'd really like to see it implemented anyway.
 * 4) * Look out for the referencing within a sentence. Make sure that any refs come after punctuation, including commas, semicolons, etc.
 * 5) * Is it possible to get relevant quotes for the sections lacking them? From reading the article, I see that the commendation from Wedge (if it's spoken, that is) would fit under "A freed man", and something relating to the interaction between Elgrin and women, or something about the tripping, would be good under the P&T.
 * 6) **The commendation isn't spoken, it's only mentioned by Cilghal, an nothing is spoken relating to the P&T.  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( Oya Manda! ) 23:44, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) ***Gotcha. Worth a shot at any rate.
 * 8) *Content-wise, the article is very good. Take care of the above, and you've got my vote. I look forward to seeing more out of you in the future. ;) Jorrel Fraajic 23:44, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) **It's all done.  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( Oya Manda! ) 23:53, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * From the scratchpad of Atarumaster88
 * You need more early life. He did exist before becoming a spy, and the article should show that.
 * Done. Not much info though.  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( Oya Manda! ) 22:24, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm going to use this nom as a bit of "GA training" for you, so please consider all these objections as "for future reference". To say "Very little is known" is both OOU, and incorrect tense. Just state what is known, not what is unknown. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 18:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * OK. Done.  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( Oya Manda! ) 20:04, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Order the article, particularly the bit about him being captured, chronologically rather than how it's laid out in the book.
 * Done.  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( Oya Manda! ) 22:32, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope. You still mention Skywalker watching the hologram before Elgrin ever gets to Borleias. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 18:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Done.  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( Oya Manda! ) 20:15, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Contextify key players, such as Quee, Solo, and Tser, in the main body of the article.
 * Done.  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( Oya Manda! ) 22:48, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep checking. Who is Luke Skywalker? What is he? Who is Tser?
 * Done, although I thought I had already identified Tser.:P  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( Oya Manda! ) 20:15, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * "unbearable", "large"&mdash;both of these are POV.
 * Done.  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( Oya Manda! ) 22:48, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * "He seemed to be very honorable" POV/Original Research.
 * Done.  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( Oya Manda! ) 22:48, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Saying someone is "very honorable" is still POV. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 18:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * OK done.  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( Oya Manda! ) 20:19, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Otherwise, not bad, if a little choppy in the prose. Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 02:45, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

From the squadron briefing of Cavalier One:
 * 1) * Do we really need two ref tags in the infobox to say he was in the New Jedi Order era? One should be enough, linked to the book he first appeared in.
 * Done.  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( Oya Manda! ) 20:26, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) * The part about Elgrin's capture and turning into a Vong agent should be described from his point of view, and chronologically, not through the revelations of the New Republic personnel at Borleias. It should go Fall of Coruscant/capture > implantation of device into brain and turning > release to Borleias > showing holocam recording to Luke and co > discovery of false story by Dannii.
 * Done.  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( Oya Manda! ) 20:26, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) * Elaboration on the plot to capture Jaina is needed.
 * Done.  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( Oya Manda! ) 20:37, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) * What information was on the screens that prompted Elgrin to consider killing Dannii?
 * Done.  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( Oya Manda! ) 20:37, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) * No quote for "A freed man" section?
 * Eh, I found one.  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( Oya Manda! ) 21:01, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) * I definitely think that the intro could be extended - it should be an overview of the entire article. Look at my current GANs: Lon Bennor, Tren, Kause and Tetrum. All have intros longer than Elgrin's, and they are about characters who are mentioned in a single paragraph. Elgrin is featured over two books.
 * Done.  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( Oya Manda! ) 21:01, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) *This article is roughly 1,000 words; with some more fleshing out, an appropriate image or two, such as one of the Fall of Coruscant, or the Battle of Borleias, and a Behind the scenes section, this could go to FA. - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 10:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * Not so much an objection, but is it possible to expand the intro a few sentences? '''Jorrel Fraajic 23:44, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I couldn't think of anything else to write in the intro. Sorry. :(  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( Oya Manda! ) 23:58, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Having looked at this article twice, I still felt the prose needed some general improvement. I've gone through the bio line-by-line and attempted to do that clean up and expansion for you, also adding some pertinent tidbits. Please take a look at my edits and see what I did to the article&mdash;I feel it's overall more readable and informative than before. Nice work overall with this, and you'll certainly get better with practice. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 00:53, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Recon-PK series droid

 * Nominated by: Thefourdotelipsis 01:59, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: WTS series resumes.

(+3)
Support
 * 1)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  22:39, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Great job.  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( Oya Manda! ) 22:54, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 08:19, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Oppose

Comments

Ultimo Vista

 * Nominated by:
 * Nomination comments: This is what happens after a night of no sleep and the reinstallation of Vista (Before anyone asks, it was broken, and then repaired over the night of little sleep)

(+1)
Support
 * 1)  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( Oya Manda! ) 00:12, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Oppose Comments
 * 1) Refs?  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 21:22, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *Hahaha oh wow. Told you this is what happens when I work on a random article without sleep. :| Fixed, by the way. 00:09, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Per Chack. Well written, but totally unsourced.  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( Oya Manda! ) 23:06, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) *See above. 00:09, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No idea what possessed me to write this up. 20:25, 4 September 2008 (UTC)