Wookieepedia:AC/Log/2015 October 24

[20:06:33]  WELCOME TO AC MEETING EIGHTY-TWO [20:06:40]  Our most sensual AC meeting yet [20:07:31]  We'll start off with old business [20:07:40]  http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kao_Cen_Darach [20:07:46]  http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Kao_Cen_Darach [20:08:08]  Fixed. Cade StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 16:57, October 24, 2015 (UTC) [20:08:32]  Cade Stupid? [20:08:34]  Makes sense [20:08:47] When did he change anything? [20:08:56]  Yeah, I'm not seeing him in the history [20:08:57]  He removed the redlink, I guess [20:09:00]  Or someone did? [20:09:14]  http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kao_Cen_Darach?diff=5751308&oldid=5751307+ [20:09:31]  Looks like JethLordMaster did [20:09:41]  Cade took credit [20:09:55] classic [20:10:30]  I'd kind of like to see some formatting changes to the article, but I don't know if we want to extend the probe for it [20:10:46]  The Bio could definitely be subsectioned, which would allow for more quotes and probably another image [20:11:12] <IFYLOFD> I don't think I'd want to extend for something like that [20:11:16] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Kao_Cen_Darach_%28third_review%29 [20:11:18] <IFYLOFD> Unless it really, really needs it [20:11:24] This is the actual review page. [20:11:32] <IFYLOFD> My bad, put the wrong review page [20:11:35] <Toprawa> The point of the extension would be to force someone to make the changes [20:11:44] <Toprawa> My concern is that no one is really monitoring this article [20:11:48] <Toprawa> So getting someone to do it might be difficult [20:12:27] <Toprawa> If we do extend it, Jeth might actually do it [20:12:32] <Toprawa> If not, it most likely won't get done [20:13:02] <IFYLOFD> We can extend [20:13:28] <Toprawa> I will vote extend, then [20:13:41] sounds fine [20:13:42] Yeah, there are quite a few things that need to be tweaked. Extend. [20:13:49] <CavalierOne> Extend [20:14:25] It is well over the word limit too. [20:14:29] <IFYLOFD> OK, Kao Cen Darach exnteded [20:14:31] <IFYLOFD> *extended [20:14:49] <IFYLOFD> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Zybahhod_Yenyoni [20:14:53] <IFYLOFD> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Zybahhod_Yenyoni [20:15:29] <Toprawa> Kill, no changes [20:15:31] <IFYLOFD> Lot of stuff still unaddressed [20:15:33] <IFYLOFD> Kill [20:15:42] <CavalierOne> Kill [20:15:44] Kill [20:15:54] <IFYLOFD> Zybahhod Yenyoni kill [20:16:00] kill [20:16:03] <IFYLOFD> New stuff [20:16:15] <IFYLOFD> We have all the articles that we agreed to look over from last meeting [20:16:22] <Toprawa> We can group all of these, I think [20:16:26] <IFYLOFD> CC said he fixed them all so we can group the,m [20:16:29] <IFYLOFD> *them [20:16:34] <Toprawa> I would just say upfront that I wanted CC to sign off on them, and he has, so I'm good [20:16:44] <IFYLOFD> I vote to spare [20:16:50] <Toprawa> Spare [20:16:51] Spare [20:17:03] <CavalierOne> Spare [20:17:34] <IFYLOFD> Ecks? [20:17:34] spare [20:17:57] <IFYLOFD> All Those Articles spared [20:18:06] <IFYLOFD> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dyslogia_Twang [20:18:16] <IFYLOFD> This article mixes non-canon Legends and canon Legends in the body. The non-canon information should be merged into the BTS.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 15:15, October 24, 2015 (UTC) [20:18:23] <Toprawa> Probe [20:18:29] Probe [20:18:30] probe [20:18:34] <IFYLOFD> Probe [20:18:38] <CavalierOne> Probe [20:18:40] <IFYLOFD> Dyslogia Twang probed [20:18:45] <IFYLOFD> Raspar system [20:18:50] <IFYLOFD> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Raspar_system [20:18:59] <IFYLOFD> This article mixes non-canon Legends and canon Legends in the body. The non-canon information should be merged into the BTS and the article should have a rewrite.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 15:15, October 24, 2015 (UTC) [20:19:06] <IFYLOFD> Probe [20:19:11] <Toprawa> Probe [20:19:13] Probe [20:19:24] <IFYLOFD> Probe [20:19:25] <CavalierOne> Probe [20:19:28] probe [20:19:28] <IFYLOFD> Raspar system probed [20:19:43] <IFYLOFD> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cannok [20:19:49] <IFYLOFD> This should have been looked at long ago. A quick skim of the article shows that EJ's first two bullet points (both missing IU info) alone are still unaddressed. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 16:28, October 24, 2015 (UTC) [20:19:57] <IFYLOFD> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Cannok#More_information.2C_possible_speculation.2FPOV Pertaining to this [20:20:19] Wow, I had forgotten about this article. [20:20:40] I'm not sure if all of those are still valid though. [20:21:10] <IFYLOFD> What do you think, EJ [20:21:29] <Toprawa> I'm a bit concerned that we're just going on the assumption that "stuff needs to be done here," to paraphrase Hanzo [20:21:33] <Toprawa> I'd like to know what exactly needs to be done [20:21:47] I'll check the list I added 3 years ago. [20:22:00] There is information from the KOTOR II that could added to game from a quest where the Jedi Exile rescues a Mandalorian named Kumus whose equipment was eaten by Cannoks. [20:22:12] I'm adding the ones that apply. [20:22:35] There is also a quest/event where an Onderonian soldier is killed by Cannoks on Dxun. [20:22:54] In the introduction: "They were relatively harmless to Humans..." Doesn't seem true from the game, I seem to remember an Onderonian soldier being killed by Cannoks, which means an average Human wouldn't find a Cannok harmless. [20:23:16] <Toprawa> That sounds pretty extrapolaty, too [20:23:25] Yeah. [20:23:29] Calling them "ornery" in the Behavior section seems to be POV to me. I don't remember this description being applied to them in the game. [20:23:50] "where they were one of the high rungs on the food chain, beneath both the maalraas, boma and the zakkeg. Particularly tough cannoks could often scare away maalraas, but the zakkeg easily dined on the abundant creatures." I'm not sure how much of this part can be supported from the game. From what I remember, the Cannoks were scavengers that ate anything, but were only able to kill sentients and other creatures [20:23:50] in large numbers. I'm not sure where the part about Cannoks scaring away Maalraas comes from. [20:24:04] Yeah, that part is really questionable. [20:24:22] The 3951 BBY date cannot be sourced to the game. [20:24:39] <IFYLOFD> This all sounds like probe, then [20:24:45] It looks like it could use some stylistic cleanup as well. [20:25:04] I vote probe. [20:25:10] <Toprawa> Probe [20:25:18] <CavalierOne> Probe [20:25:26] probe [20:25:44] <IFYLOFD> Cannok probed [20:25:48] The topic should probably be an FA honestly. [20:25:49] <IFYLOFD> OK, checking the maintenance page [20:25:55] <IFYLOFD> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Flag_Parade?t=20151002193515 [20:26:00] <IFYLOFD> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Shmi%27s_theme?t=20151002193507 [20:26:01] <Toprawa> Most likely, EJ [20:26:04] <IFYLOFD> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/General_Grievous%27s_theme?t=20151002193458 [20:26:06] <IFYLOFD> All from the same source [20:26:15] <Toprawa> Probe [20:26:16] <IFYLOFD> Funnily enough, it'll be a month tomorrow [20:26:20] <Toprawa> Probe all, that is [20:26:21] <IFYLOFD> But fuck it, who cares, close enough [20:26:29] <IFYLOFD> Probe [20:26:30] <CavalierOne> ^ [20:26:35] Probe [20:26:35] <CavalierOne> Probe [20:26:41] probe [20:26:45] <IFYLOFD> All probed [20:26:52] <IFYLOFD> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Boba_Fett_and_the_Assassin_Droids?t=20150923120445 Update tag [20:27:00] <Toprawa> Probe [20:27:01] <IFYLOFD> Well over a year old [20:27:03] <IFYLOFD> Probe [20:27:07] Probe [20:27:19] probe [20:27:25] <CavalierOne> Probe [20:27:28] <IFYLOFD> Boba Fett and the Assassin Droids probed [20:27:37] <IFYLOFD> OK, onto discussion topics [20:27:51] <IFYLOFD> I mean, the one relevant thing is the fact that the queue is about to run out [20:28:02] <Toprawa> When is the end date? [20:28:12] <IFYLOFD> We have one article for the week starting Monday [20:28:15] <IFYLOFD> No second article [20:28:35] <IFYLOFD> We haven't been able to sustain the activity level necessary to sustain two-a-week [20:28:42] <Toprawa> Well, from an administrative perspective, I would just remove the queue from the MP once we get there [20:28:49] <IFYLOFD> That's what I was going to suggest [20:29:30] Is the FA queue about to run out too? [20:29:33] <IFYLOFD> Not really much else we can do [20:29:51] <IFYLOFD> FAN has about a month [20:30:09] We could merge the two and have them last a little longer. [20:30:25] <IFYLOFD> There's not much to merge [20:30:37] <IFYLOFD> There's only one article on the GA queue [20:31:21] I was thinking that future GAs might be able to extend the current queue for a little while. [20:31:33] make it one a week for the time being? [20:32:25] <IFYLOFD> That's rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic to me [20:32:49] If we want to just kill it, I guess that's fine too, but I think it is going to be bad if we don't have something there when the FA queue runs out. [20:32:56] <Toprawa> I'm ok with just killing it for now [20:33:02] <Toprawa> I was kind of planning on having a Mofference soonish [20:33:07] <Toprawa> We could create an official plan there [20:33:22] <IFYLOFD> Sounds good to me [20:33:30] Sure, sounds fine. [20:33:38] <CavalierOne> Agreed [20:33:40] As long as we don't just drop it. [20:34:54] <IFYLOFD> We don't really have a choice not to drop it [20:35:11] <IFYLOFD> Or something [20:35:13] I mean drop the discussion related to the main page. [20:35:18] <IFYLOFD> Hopefully I didn't double-negative or something [20:35:24] <IFYLOFD> Yeah, we can't drop it [20:35:52] <IFYLOFD> So, all in agreement on ending the GAs on the Main Page Era? [20:36:12] Aye [20:36:15] <CavalierOne> Aye [20:36:16] <Toprawa> Well, from a legal standpoint, I would argue that we don't exactly have the authority to do that [20:36:28] <Toprawa> But in the absence of any articles, the administration has no choice but to remove the queue [20:36:38] <Toprawa> We kind of face a difficulty once we pass further noms [20:36:54] <Toprawa> We should put the queue back up whenever we do mass more articles [20:37:01] <Toprawa> Then in a CT or Mofference, we should determine a long-term plan [20:37:18] <Toprawa> mass = pass more articles* [20:37:24] <IFYLOFD> Didn't we pass something granting us this power at the last Mofference? [20:37:37] <Toprawa> Let me check [20:37:44] <IFYLOFD> Or maybe we just discussed it [20:38:00] <Toprawa> No [20:38:03] <Toprawa> We discussed it, I think [20:38:08] <IFYLOFD> I do remember having a conversation about it [20:38:34] <Toprawa> Like I said, as an admin, I'm going to remove the queue once we run out [20:38:48] <Toprawa> But as long as we have more noms, the queue should go back up until we determine a long-term plan as a site [20:39:05] <IFYLOFD> I'm fine with that [20:39:06] <Toprawa> Ideally, we will determine this sooner rather than later [20:39:13] <Toprawa> I'll see when we can do a Mofference [20:40:12] <IFYLOFD> OK [20:40:20] <IFYLOFD> So that's happening [20:40:27] <IFYLOFD> Anyone have anything else to discuss? [20:40:32] <Toprawa> Not I [20:40:44] I don't. [20:40:50] <CavalierOne> Nope [20:41:06] <IFYLOFD> OK then [20:41:12] <IFYLOFD> Checking meeting duties [20:41:19] <IFYLOFD> Paperwork: [20:41:21] <IFYLOFD> LOL MURDER ME [20:41:28] <IFYLOFD> Scheduling: EJ [20:41:44] <IFYLOFD> We're done, go home to your families