Forum:CT Archive/Disabling creation of pages by anons and new users

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With the rise in vandalism occuring daily including the creation of nonsense pages by anons and new users (particularly sockpuppets), we should disable the creation of pages by anons and new users. Well, back when Wookieepedia was young, some of the anons like me were quite helpful to the community and we helped forged Wookieepedia into what it is. Nearly all of these former anons are now registered users like me.

Now the times have changed, with nearly all the new pages being created by anons being nonsense or blatant fanon. If you don't believe me, please view the Destruction log and see for yourselves. We should follow Wikipedia's example by disabling the creation of pages by anons and new users. Thus if a they want to edit fully, they should be required to register and then follow the guidelines set on their talk pages and by the community. Also, we should have a creation log of new user accounts to maintain security for this site. MyNz - Zainal 4:21, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Voting
The following support or oppose this new measure.

Support

 * 1) MyNz - Zainal 4:21, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) Good idea. Then our "Gluupwhοre" vandal wouldn't be able to post that stupid page again. -  Yoshi  626 [[Image:Yoshiegg.jpg|20px]] 04:29, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) *He can't. It exists as a redirect to Constantly recreated pages and is locked to editing. Adminpwned. Havac 04:38, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) **I know, but he keeps re-creating it with variations of the spelling. Mostly just spacing the letters apart. -  Yoshi  626 [[Image:Yoshiegg.jpg|20px]] 04:41, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 5) Been saying this for a while. Kuralyov 05:00, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Under the caveat that "Requested articles" is made more prominent on the front page. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 05:25, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) Assuming Wikia can (and will) do it, then I say not just yes but Hell Yes. -- Darth Culator  (Talk)(Kills) 14:43, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) per Darth Culator. Jorrel Fraajic 18:59, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) I don't know any examples when anons created useful pages. - TopAce 20:52, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) [[Image:DarthAbeonisSig2.gif|Jasca Ducato]] Sith Council Sith Campaign 21:02, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 5) Per Culator.-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 21:05, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) SFH 05:36, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) See comments. .  .  .  .  07:41, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) No. Just no. Sikon 08:53, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) Imp 14:26, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 5) As much as I'd like to stop them adding crap, it goes against the whole wiki thing. Green Tentacle (Talk) 14:35, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 6) On second thought, per Green Tentacle. Besides, we wouldn't want the admins to get bored. :P Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 14:42, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 7) I'm convinced this policy would have a negligible effect on vandal reduction: obsessive trolls would just wait however many days it took for an account to no longer be considered "new", or just vandalise existing pages with their new accounts. (I could see restricting anonymous users from creating new pages in all namespaces other than the Talk: namespace, but more as a means of encouraging them to sign up than anything.) &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 15:57, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 8)  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 17:33, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 9) Would cause inconvenience for legitimate new users and can't see it deterring trolls much. Enochf 21:09, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 10) Per Green Tentacle and Silly Dan. Adamwankenobi 21:10, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Comments
MyNz 4:53, 15 Dec 2006 (UTC) Another thing we might want to consider: spending a lot of time trying to come up with a new policy in response to a single vandal might only serve to encourage him. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 16:00, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Aren't there some limits on what a new user can do already? Like a week on moving and maybe something else.  -Fnlayson 04:51, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Now we can see how the times have changed. Since its birth in March 2005, Wookieepedia has grown in size and fame and we are one of the best Wikicities and Star Wars websites on the globe. However, this fame comes with unwanted attention from all sorts of vandals and spammers lurking on the net. Rather than having to fight all these idiotic vandals, we should strip them of their access to creating articles. So if anons and new users want to create an article, they have to go to the requests section. Limits already exist like a week's prevention of moving pages though these should both be expanded and extended.
 * It doesn't work on Wikipedia, and it won't work here. -- SFH 05:37, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Would you elaborate a bit for those of us who don't know much about how this is working over there? jSarek 06:02, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Everyday I check the newpages list on Wikipedia. I usually choose the first five articles on the list as a "bookmark", to know where I am. Usually, more than half of those pages are nonsense pages created by people who did the simple process of registering. Blocking anons won't work. -- SFH 06:33, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't think this is all that wise. Admins and the like wield the power to fend off any would be admin on a whim, and passing this measure would only serve to dampen the novelty of the Wiki. .  .  .  .  07:42, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * How about having a creation log for user accounts. This may not solve the problem completely though it may help a little bit. If we see any obscene or unacceptable usernames or sockpuppets, just ban them if an admin is around. Also place the article and image requests sections on the main page. MyNz 08:40, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I think that only anons should be restricted. New users may genuinely want to make a new page, and not being allowed will only mean they get fed up with the Wookiee and not bother to contribute - \\Captain Kwenn// &mdash; Ahoy! 08:44, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * For some really weird reason whenever I try to place an invitation on User:Riffsyphon1024's talk page, it would not allow me to save my work. Can someone please get him here. I do not know and probably never will use the IRC channel. MyNz 08:55, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I think new users should still be able to create pages. Or is that not an option?-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 21:12, 15 December 2006 (UTC)