Wookieepedia:EduCorps/Meeting 53/Log

Feb 17 23:15:09 	Alright well let's begin with last meeting's articles Feb 17 23:15:13 	First is the AT-PT Feb 17 23:15:17 	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/AT-PT Feb 17 23:15:22 	https://starwars.fandom.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=8048611 Feb 17 23:15:27 	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/AT-PT Feb 17 23:15:38 	it almost escaped its fate Feb 17 23:15:49 	Cwedin addressed all previous objections, but Imperators has just added new ones Feb 17 23:16:07 	Extend Feb 17 23:16:08 	Extend Feb 17 23:16:12 	yep, extend Feb 17 23:16:14 	Extend Feb 17 23:16:20 	extend Feb 17 23:16:23 	e Feb 17 23:16:25 	Extend Feb 17 23:17:14 	Alright AT-PT extended Feb 17 23:17:35 	Next up is Holowan Feb 17 23:17:35 	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Holowan_Laboratories Feb 17 23:17:40 <Ayrehead02>	https://starwars.fandom.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=8048621 Feb 17 23:17:46 <Ayrehead02>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Holowan_Laboratories Feb 17 23:17:52 <Ayrehead02>	No changes Feb 17 23:17:54 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Kill Feb 17 23:17:56 <Ayrehead02>	Kill Feb 17 23:17:57 <QGJ>	kill Feb 17 23:17:57 <AnilSerifoglu>	Kill Feb 17 23:17:59 <Imperators>	kill Feb 17 23:18:04 	k Feb 17 23:18:05 <Imperators>	murder by IG-88 Feb 17 23:18:05 <Corellianpremier>	Kill Feb 17 23:18:52 <Ayrehead02>	Alright, Holowan killed Feb 17 23:19:14 <Ayrehead02>	Also Tope I know it's been a while since you attended EC but voting is generally encouraged :P Feb 17 23:19:24 <Imperators>	don't jinx it Feb 17 23:19:33 <Toprawa>	It's best to assume I'm not going to participate, so don't let me hold you up :P Feb 17 23:19:42 <Ayrehead02>	Will do Feb 17 23:19:42 	^ Feb 17 23:19:46 <Ayrehead02>	Alright next up is Gand Feb 17 23:19:46 <Ayrehead02>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Gand_(planet) Feb 17 23:19:50 	hard to play GTA Online and participate Feb 17 23:19:50 <Ayrehead02>	https://starwars.fandom.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=8048636 Feb 17 23:19:55 <Ayrehead02>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Gand_(planet) Feb 17 23:20:42 <Imperators>	what, between killing pedestrians you can't kill articles, too? Feb 17 23:20:47 <Imperators>	no changes Feb 17 23:20:47 <Ayrehead02>	No update from what I can tell Feb 17 23:20:49 <Imperators>	astrokill Feb 17 23:20:50 <AnilSerifoglu>	Kill Feb 17 23:20:51 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Kill Feb 17 23:20:51 <QGJ>	kill Feb 17 23:20:52 <Ayrehead02>	Kill Feb 17 23:21:09 <Corellianpremier>	kill Feb 17 23:21:16 <Ayrehead02>	Gand killed Feb 17 23:21:18 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Wasted Feb 17 23:21:25 <Ayrehead02>	Finally from the old stuff is Storm Commando Feb 17 23:21:26 <Ayrehead02>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Storm_Commando Feb 17 23:21:30 <Ayrehead02>	https://starwars.fandom.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=8048652 Feb 17 23:21:33 <Ayrehead02>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Storm_Commando Feb 17 23:21:39 <Ayrehead02>	No change Feb 17 23:21:40 <Ayrehead02>	Kill Feb 17 23:21:42 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Kill Feb 17 23:21:42 <AnilSerifoglu>	Kill Feb 17 23:21:43 <QGJ>	kill Feb 17 23:21:46 <Corellianpremier>	kill Feb 17 23:22:01 <Imperators>	storm Feb 17 23:22:03 <Imperators>	kill Feb 17 23:22:25 <Ayrehead02>	Alright Storm Commando killed Feb 17 23:22:37 <Ayrehead02>	Onto the new Feb 17 23:22:44 <Ayrehead02>	And we start with one of my own babies Feb 17 23:22:52 <Ayrehead02>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Redsprout Feb 17 23:22:55 <Imperators>	probe all Ayrehead's babies Feb 17 23:23:02 <Ayrehead02>	Redsprout — year was sourced to the SH post, which was inadequate. I've replaced it with a Fact tag. It should be either given a good ref or the year should be removed. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 21:42, February 7, 2019 (UTC) Feb 17 23:23:02 <Ayrehead02>	Provided a new date ref. Ayrehead02 (talk) 23:36, February 7, 2019 (UTC) Feb 17 23:23:43 <QGJ>	I believe Zare Leonis and Ezra both need context within that ref Feb 17 23:24:04 <Imperators>	meh Feb 17 23:24:28 <Ayrehead02>	I didn't think that stuff mentioned only in references needed context Feb 17 23:24:33 <Imperators>	I don't actually think their mention is necessary at all Feb 17 23:24:40 <Ayrehead02>	But if everyone disagrees it's easy enough to add Feb 17 23:25:05 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Yeah that's not necessary really, its only a ref and they have nothing to do with the subject Feb 17 23:25:13 <AnilSerifoglu>	^ Feb 17 23:25:24 <Ayrehead02>	Do people want me to remove their mention all together? Feb 17 23:25:35 <Imperators>	I say keep as is. Feb 17 23:25:44 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Honestly I'm fine with how it currently is Feb 17 23:25:45 <Ayrehead02>	Works for me Feb 17 23:25:55 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Spare Feb 17 23:25:56 <Corellianpremier>	Exactly Feb 17 23:25:59 <Ayrehead02>	Spare Feb 17 23:26:02 <AnilSerifoglu>	Spare Feb 17 23:26:02 <Imperators>	spare Feb 17 23:26:02 <Corellianpremier>	Spare Feb 17 23:26:03 <QGJ>	spare Feb 17 23:26:17 <Ayrehead02>	Alright then, Redsprout spared Feb 17 23:26:32 <Ayrehead02>	Next up is Vaux Feb 17 23:26:33 <Ayrehead02>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Vaux Feb 17 23:26:44 <Ayrehead02>	ditto for this. We should also use the BBY/ABY system if we do keep the year. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 21:49, February 7, 2019 (UTC) Feb 17 23:26:44 <Ayrehead02>	Adjusted - I removed the full date. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 04:07, February 14, 2019 (UTC) Feb 17 23:26:44 <Ayrehead02>	Can the year not be inferred from other sources such as Galactic Atlas? As it is, the timeframe provided in the article is too vague and should provide a range of years, at least. Feb 17 23:27:04 <Ayrehead02>	The last comment was Imperators Feb 17 23:27:35 <Corellianpremier>	I did go in and add the 4 BBY date and associated ref. Feb 17 23:28:40 <Ayrehead02>	Do we have nothing dated beyond Siege of Lothal Feb 17 23:28:48 <Tommy-Macaroni>	I think you could say between 4 and 3 BBY, as the https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Attack_on_Phoenix_Squadron_(3_BBY)#cite_note-Chronology_Note-2 is 3 BBY Feb 17 23:29:00 <Tommy-Macaroni>	And blood sisters is before the forgotten droid Feb 17 23:29:00 <Ayrehead02>	Yeah that'd work for me Feb 17 23:29:23 <QGJ>	same Feb 17 23:29:27 <Imperators>	Siege of Lothal apparently should be in italics in the ref Feb 17 23:29:49 <Tommy-Macaroni>	I also don't think you really need to mention the specific event of the siege really, nor the second season Feb 17 23:30:12 <AnilSerifoglu>	and the quotation marks should be after commas in BTS Feb 17 23:30:32 <Imperators>	shall we probe this? Feb 17 23:30:48 <Ayrehead02>	I think that'd be sensible Feb 17 23:30:52 <Tommy-Macaroni>	I say probe Feb 17 23:30:54 <AnilSerifoglu>	Probe Feb 17 23:30:56 <Ayrehead02>	Probe Feb 17 23:30:56 <QGJ>	Agreed Feb 17 23:30:57 <QGJ>	probe Feb 17 23:31:00 <Imperators>	probe Feb 17 23:31:12 <Corellianpremier>	ok probe Feb 17 23:31:26 <Ayrehead02>	You should easily be able to save it by next meeting CP Feb 17 23:31:34 <Ayrehead02>	Vaux probed Feb 17 23:31:50 <Ayrehead02>	Next up is Feb 17 23:31:52 <Ayrehead02>	Well this: Feb 17 23:31:53 <Ayrehead02>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/(Sharp_keening_at_85_cycles,_followed_by_five_atonal_mandible_clicks) Feb 17 23:32:01 <Ayrehead02>	HolonetNews articles provide GRS dates. A ref note needs to be added, explaining the conversion to 22 BBY. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 10:07, February 11, 2019 (UTC) Feb 17 23:32:01 <Ayrehead02>	Ref note added. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 15:11, February 15, 2019 (UTC) Feb 17 23:32:01 <Ayrehead02>	The ref note should just pipelink here instead of this article spelling out the actual reasoning behind the date conversion. Imperators II(Talk) 19:03, February 17, 2019 (UTC) Feb 17 23:32:19 <Imperators>	this is the link https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Template:YearMathGRS Feb 17 23:32:22 <QGJ>	Ah, what a lovely name. Just rolls of the tongue :p Feb 17 23:33:10 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Can the full release date be sourced to ref 1? Feb 17 23:33:12 <Imperators>	there are examples of recent status articles out there that do this Feb 17 23:33:55 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Remove the 22 BBY image caption link too please Feb 17 23:34:24 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Probe Feb 17 23:34:31 <AnilSerifoglu>	Probe Feb 17 23:34:35 <QGJ>	probe Feb 17 23:34:38 <Imperators>	probe Feb 17 23:34:38 <Ayrehead02>	Probe Feb 17 23:34:40 <Corellianpremier>	yep probe Feb 17 23:34:49 <Ayrehead02>	Alright, that article was probed Feb 17 23:35:08 <Imperators>	what a cop-out, Ayre :P Feb 17 23:35:09 <Ayrehead02>	Next up AF-27 Feb 17 23:35:10 <Ayrehead02>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/AF-27 Feb 17 23:35:23 <Ayrehead02>	Refs 1 and 3 need further extrapolation. Feb 17 23:35:23 <Ayrehead02>	Double refs in the Bts Feb 17 23:35:23 <Ayrehead02>	Last sentence of the Bts is unneccessary. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 10:07, February 11, 2019 (UTC) Feb 17 23:35:31 <QGJ>	I meant ref 4 here, btw Feb 17 23:35:43 <QGJ>	The 3 ABY date Feb 17 23:35:46 <Ayrehead02>	Oh I was going to say I wasn't sure what was wrong with ref 3 Feb 17 23:36:16 <Ayrehead02>	Probe Feb 17 23:36:21 <QGJ>	probe Feb 17 23:36:24 <AnilSerifoglu>	Probe Feb 17 23:36:30 <Imperators>	probe Feb 17 23:36:34 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Probe Feb 17 23:36:39 	p Feb 17 23:37:08 <Ayrehead02>	AF-27 probed Feb 17 23:37:24 <Ayrehead02>	Next is Milos Brejik Feb 17 23:37:25 <Ayrehead02>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Milos_Brejik Feb 17 23:37:33 <Ayrehead02>	Looking at the entry, I do not believe the 3956 BBY can be sourced directly to it. Feb 17 23:37:33 <Ayrehead02>	Added a new reference. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:44, February 16, 2019 (UTC) Feb 17 23:37:33 <Ayrehead02>	Redirect. Feb 17 23:37:33 <Ayrehead02>	Done. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:44, February 16, 2019 (UTC) Feb 17 23:37:33 <Ayrehead02>	Unsourced BTS.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 03:14, February 16, 2019 (UTC) Feb 17 23:37:34 <Ayrehead02>	Done. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:44, February 16, 2019 (UTC) Feb 17 23:37:58 <Ayrehead02>	Apparently I can improve the date ref according to Imperators, which I'm happy to do immediately after the meeting Feb 17 23:38:14 <Imperators>	genre for TOR, pls Feb 17 23:38:15 <Tommy-Macaroni>	The first sentence is currently sourced to the date note Feb 17 23:38:33 <Tommy-Macaroni>	*first bits of info Feb 17 23:38:48 <Imperators>	yeah Feb 17 23:39:00 <Ayrehead02>	I'm happy to fix both of those as well Feb 17 23:39:25 <Ayrehead02>	But we can just probe, just might save someone paperwork Feb 17 23:39:31 <Imperators>	"there are similarities" - I'd like to see this specified Feb 17 23:39:39 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Okay then, probe Feb 17 23:39:44 <Corellianpremier>	probe Feb 17 23:39:44 <Imperators>	as in, replace it with more specifics Feb 17 23:39:46 <Ayrehead02>	Sure, Probe Feb 17 23:39:48 <AnilSerifoglu>	Probe Feb 17 23:39:49 <Imperators>	probe Feb 17 23:39:51 <QGJ>	probe Feb 17 23:39:58 <Ayrehead02>	Milos Brejik probed Feb 17 23:40:24 <Ayrehead02>	Next up another of mine: Aarsix Feb 17 23:40:25 <Ayrehead02>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Aarsix Feb 17 23:40:32 <Ayrehead02>	Unsourced BTS. Feb 17 23:40:32 <Ayrehead02>	Done. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:44, February 16, 2019 (UTC) Feb 17 23:40:32 <Ayrehead02>	The source should use the new Template:ID instead of Template:C.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 03:14, February 16, 2019 (UTC) Feb 17 23:40:32 <Ayrehead02>	Switched. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:44, February 16, 2019 (UTC) Feb 17 23:40:55 <Imperators>	I'd like to see MMORPG spelled out Feb 17 23:41:04 <Ayrehead02>	Sure that's easy enough Feb 17 23:41:05 <Imperators>	is the third sentence of BTS really necessary? Feb 17 23:41:28 <QGJ>	We usually do point out spelling mistakes in the Bts Feb 17 23:41:31 <Imperators>	we should be able to get a year in there Feb 17 23:41:42 <Imperators>	wrong sentence, QGJ Feb 17 23:41:43 <Ayrehead02>	For the prima guide? Feb 17 23:41:47 <Imperators>	I'm thinking the species one Feb 17 23:41:54 <Imperators>	What species he belongs to is not visible due to his armor. Feb 17 23:41:55 <Ayrehead02>	Oh the third sentence can go Feb 17 23:42:00 <QGJ>	Oh, my bad Feb 17 23:42:06 <QGJ>	Its late :p Feb 17 23:42:28 <QGJ>	Yeah that one is unnecessary Feb 17 23:42:28 <Imperators>	are you going to fix all this, Ayre? Feb 17 23:42:32 <Ayrehead02>	I am indeed Feb 17 23:42:34 <Imperators>	the year included Feb 17 23:42:38 <Imperators>	alright, spare then Feb 17 23:42:42 <Ayrehead02>	I can do it now but I didn't want to hold up the meeting Feb 17 23:42:45 <Ayrehead02>	Spare Feb 17 23:42:52 <QGJ>	Spare, on the condition that Ayre fixes it Feb 17 23:42:54 <AnilSerifoglu>	Spare Feb 17 23:43:12 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Spare then Feb 17 23:43:14 <Corellianpremier>	ok spare Feb 17 23:43:30 <Ayrehead02>	Alright, Aarsix spared Feb 17 23:43:46 <Ayrehead02>	Next up is Abryl Feb 17 23:43:46 <Ayrehead02>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Abryl Feb 17 23:44:01 <Ayrehead02>	Abryl Feb 17 23:44:01 <Ayrehead02>	I'm pretty sure all of the vendors had at least one quote, so a quote should be added to the article. Feb 17 23:44:01 <Ayrehead02>	Based on the page for Star Wars: The Old Republic, I do not believe that the release date can be sourced directly to the game.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 03:14, February 16, 2019 (UTC) Feb 17 23:44:34 <Ayrehead02>	To be fair not every vendor has a quote some were just silent Feb 17 23:44:40 <Ayrehead02>	I have no idea if this is the case here or not Feb 17 23:45:13 <Imperators>	I want a year. Feb 17 23:45:15 <QGJ>	Was Star Wars: The Old Republic Explorer's Guide checked? His location might be marked there as well, just like Aarsix Feb 17 23:45:29 <Ayrehead02>	No he was added much later in the game I think Feb 17 23:45:51 <QGJ>	Okay then Feb 17 23:46:25 <Imperators>	sooo... is Abryl humanoid? Feb 17 23:46:38 <Ayrehead02>	Good point Feb 17 23:46:49 <Ayrehead02>	Probe Feb 17 23:46:51 <AnilSerifoglu>	Probe Feb 17 23:46:57 <Imperators>	this is probably beyond this article's scope, though Feb 17 23:46:58 <Imperators>	probe Feb 17 23:47:03 <QGJ>	probe Feb 17 23:47:04 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Probe Feb 17 23:47:18 <Corellianpremier>	probe Feb 17 23:47:26 <Ayrehead02>	Alright Abryl probed Feb 17 23:47:42 <Ayrehead02>	Next up is Adrell Feb 17 23:47:43 <Ayrehead02>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Adrell Feb 17 23:47:54 <Ayrehead02>	Reference 2 does not fully source the location of Manwess III, as the companion does not include planets. Additional referencing should be added. Feb 17 23:47:54 <Ayrehead02>	I've actually removed the information that it was in the Inner Rim since this seems an unnecessary level of location detail for a character article. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:37, February 16, 2019 (UTC) Feb 17 23:47:54 <Ayrehead02>	Unsourced BTS.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 03:14, February 16, 2019 (UTC) Feb 17 23:47:54 <Ayrehead02>	Sourced. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:37, February 16, 2019 (UTC) Feb 17 23:48:17 <Imperators>	two issues from me Feb 17 23:48:38 <Imperators>	Rebellion era in infobox, which is more specific than the Galactic Civil War mentioned in body Feb 17 23:49:19 <Toprawa>	GG10 probably has a specific time period too Feb 17 23:49:22 <Toprawa>	I think all of those books did Feb 17 23:49:30 <Toprawa>	Even if it was as general as "between ANH and ROTJ" or something Feb 17 23:49:33 <Imperators>	and issue two, I disagree with Ayrehead. Inner Rim should definitely be added in the article, properly referenced to the Online Companion via a manual ref note, see recent status articles. Feb 17 23:49:51 <Imperators>	it does, Tope Feb 17 23:50:03 <Ayrehead02>	Alright then, Probe Feb 17 23:50:05 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Astro-nerd :P Feb 17 23:50:05 <QGJ>	Probe Feb 17 23:50:07 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Probe Feb 17 23:50:12 <AnilSerifoglu>	Probe Feb 17 23:50:12 <Corellianpremier>	probe Feb 17 23:50:16 <Toprawa>	Probe Feb 17 23:50:19 <Imperators>	per Tommy Feb 17 23:50:21 <Imperators>	probe Feb 17 23:50:52 <Ayrehead02>	Alright, Adrell probed Feb 17 23:51:09 <Ayrehead02>	Finally Darrus Alde Feb 17 23:51:10 <Ayrehead02>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Darrus_Alde Feb 17 23:51:17 <Ayrehead02>	The biography paragraph should be split. Feb 17 23:51:18 <Ayrehead02>	Done. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:44, February 16, 2019 (UTC) Feb 17 23:51:18 <Ayrehead02>	Unsourced BTS.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 03:14, February 16, 2019 (UTC) Feb 17 23:51:18 <Ayrehead02>	Fixed. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:44, February 16, 2019 (UTC) Feb 17 23:51:34 <Imperators>	Ref 4 needs to utilize appropriate template Feb 17 23:51:47 <Imperators>	also, just use in Appearances Feb 17 23:52:18 <Ayrehead02>	Those are both easy fixes Feb 17 23:52:19 <Tommy-Macaroni>	1stm, you mean? Feb 17 23:52:23 <Imperators>	no Feb 17 23:52:27 <QGJ>	Do refs 9 and 10 work intheir current form? Feb 17 23:52:35 <Imperators>	the needs to be just Feb 17 23:52:43 <Imperators>	it's just mentioned in the game, and Codex is part of game Feb 17 23:52:47 <Ayrehead02>	But there's already a 1stm Feb 17 23:52:49 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Ah I see Feb 17 23:53:00 <Imperators>	also, there's no way ref 3 is enough for the date Feb 17 23:53:01 <Ayrehead02>	There doesn't need to be a 1stm and a mo? Feb 17 23:53:04 <Imperators>	TOR is set in BBY Feb 17 23:53:33 <Imperators>	right, Ayre, just, sorry Feb 17 23:54:09 <Ayrehead02>	probe for the date then Feb 17 23:54:20 <AnilSerifoglu>	Probe Feb 17 23:54:21 <QGJ>	Probe Feb 17 23:54:26 <Imperators>	I'd also like a year for the TOR IU events, actually, as well Feb 17 23:54:27 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Probe Feb 17 23:54:30 <Imperators>	it would help for context Feb 17 23:54:31 <Imperators>	probe Feb 17 23:54:46 <Corellianpremier>	probe Feb 17 23:54:55 <Toprawa>	Probe Feb 17 23:54:59 	p Feb 17 23:55:01 <Ayrehead02>	Darrus Alde probed Feb 17 23:55:05 <Imperators>	like, Alde's hologram was kept wherever around year whatever. Feb 17 23:55:19 <Ayrehead02>	That's the last of the articles listed Feb 17 23:55:29 <Ayrehead02>	Anyone got anything else while I check the maintenance bin? Feb 17 23:55:49 <Imperators>	yes, please link the bin on the meeting page next time :P Feb 17 23:56:05 <Imperators>	no articles from me, though Feb 17 23:56:07 <Ayrehead02>	Yeah I just realised I missed it :P Feb 17 23:56:47 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Nope Feb 17 23:56:54 <Ayrehead02>	Nothing in the maintenance Feb 17 23:56:54 <QGJ>	Nothing from me Feb 17 23:56:58 <Corellianpremier>	all good Feb 17 23:57:07 <Ayrehead02>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EduCorps/CA_maintenance_issues Feb 17 23:57:12 <Ayrehead02>	Nothing from me Feb 17 23:57:13 <Imperators>	on to the juicy part, then? Feb 17 23:57:18 <Ayrehead02>	Indeed Feb 17 23:57:34 <Ayrehead02>	Onto discussions! Feb 17 23:57:55 <Ayrehead02>	Firstly the meeting duties needs updating to include Anil Feb 17 23:58:06 <Ayrehead02>	And because we've reached the end Feb 17 23:58:11 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Yeah, me and QG aren't even on the current one Feb 17 23:58:20 <Toprawa>	Want me to randomize a new one? Feb 17 23:58:26 <Imperators>	yay Feb 17 23:58:30 <QGJ>	Please do Feb 17 23:58:33 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Please Tope, thanks Feb 17 23:58:39 <Corellianpremier>	yeah that would be great Feb 17 23:58:39 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Are we including SE? Feb 17 23:58:48 <Tommy-Macaroni>	He didn't leave notes for this meeting Feb 17 23:58:50 <Toprawa>	Who is all in this lsit? Feb 17 23:58:51 <Toprawa>	list* Feb 17 23:58:57 <Toprawa>	Because I realize not all Inqs and ACs participate Feb 17 23:59:05 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Master Fredcerique Feb 17 23:59:05 <Tommy-Macaroni>	QuiGonJinn Feb 17 23:59:05 <Tommy-Macaroni>	AnilSerifoglu Feb 17 23:59:05 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Corellian Premier Feb 17 23:59:05 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Tommy-Macaroni Feb 17 23:59:05 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Ayrehead02 Feb 17 23:59:05 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Xd1358 Feb 17 23:59:06 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Imperators II Feb 17 23:59:06 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Exiledjedi Feb 17 23:59:08 <Tommy-Macaroni>	I think Feb 17 23:59:10 <Toprawa>	Thanks Feb 17 23:59:17 <Imperators>	SE as well? Feb 17 23:59:23 <Tommy-Macaroni>	That just discounts you and SE Feb 17 23:59:28 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Yeah idk about SE Feb 17 23:59:31 <Imperators>	lol Feb 17 23:59:34 <Imperators>	poor SE Feb 17 23:59:37 	don't include me Feb 17 23:59:40 	I don't work here lady Feb 17 23:59:48 <Toprawa>	Ok Feb 17 23:59:57 <Toprawa>	I'm excluding SE Feb 18 00:00:02 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Cool Feb 18 00:00:02 <QGJ>	SE's got his hands full of 10 meetings-worth of paperwork, I think Feb 18 00:00:08 <Imperators>	^ Feb 18 00:00:08 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Heh Feb 18 00:00:08 <Imperators>	^ Feb 18 00:00:09 <Imperators>	^ Feb 18 00:00:12 <Toprawa>	Paperwork: Feb 18 00:00:20 <Toprawa>	Corellian Premier Feb 18 00:00:20 <Toprawa>	QuiGonJinn Feb 18 00:00:20 <Toprawa>	AnilSerifoglu Feb 18 00:00:20 <Toprawa>	Exiledjedi Feb 18 00:00:20 <Toprawa>	Tommy-Macaroni Feb 18 00:00:21 <Toprawa>	Imperators II Feb 18 00:00:23 <Toprawa>	Ayrehead02 Feb 18 00:00:28 <Toprawa>	Meeting scheduling: Feb 18 00:00:41 <Toprawa>	Ayrehead02 Feb 18 00:00:43 <Toprawa>	Exiledjedi Feb 18 00:00:45 <Toprawa>	AnilSerifoglu Feb 18 00:00:47 <Toprawa>	Imperators II Feb 18 00:00:49 <Toprawa>	Corellian Premier Feb 18 00:00:51 <Toprawa>	QuiGonJinn Feb 18 00:00:53 <Toprawa>	Tommy-Macaroni Feb 18 00:01:00 <Imperators>	did Ayrehead just win? Feb 18 00:01:22 <Ayrehead02>	Two schedulings in a row? Feb 18 00:01:24 <Ayrehead02>	Dammit Feb 18 00:01:36 <Toprawa>	Yeah, but then you don't have to do it again for like a year :P Feb 18 00:01:37 <Imperators>	creativity resources stretched thin Feb 18 00:01:37 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Yeah but no paperwork Feb 18 00:02:00 <Imperators>	thanks for hosting, Ayre! Feb 18 00:02:09 <Tommy-Macaroni>	We're not done yet tho Feb 18 00:02:13 <Ayrehead02>	Nah there's more Feb 18 00:02:18 <Imperators>	I rest my case :P Feb 18 00:02:22 <Ayrehead02>	That was the first discussion item weirdly Feb 18 00:02:58 <Ayrehead02>	Next up Tommy has two Feb 18 00:02:59 <Imperators>	Tommy wants to do bad things to EC Redux? Feb 18 00:03:06 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Simple thing folks Feb 18 00:03:27 <Tommy-Macaroni>	 I propose we, like our big brothers at the Inquisitorius and AC, merge our redux into the CAN page Feb 18 00:03:35 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Just so we don't forget about them Feb 18 00:03:50 <Tommy-Macaroni>	They will still remain EC only voting wise Feb 18 00:04:25 <Imperators>	support Feb 18 00:04:31 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Support Feb 18 00:04:32 <Ayrehead02>	Support Feb 18 00:04:33 <QGJ>	Yes, redux pages seem to be neglected when they are separated from the actual nomination page Feb 18 00:04:36 <AnilSerifoglu>	Support Feb 18 00:04:36 <QGJ>	support Feb 18 00:04:38 <Corellianpremier>	~support Feb 18 00:04:53 <Imperators>	Ayre, gtfo re:Rafe's Gambit :P Feb 18 00:05:16 <Toprawa>	support Feb 18 00:05:39 <Ayrehead02>	Huh? Feb 18 00:05:49 <Imperators>	GAN it Feb 18 00:05:54 <Ayrehead02>	Oh fuck right Feb 18 00:06:02 <Ayrehead02>	Will do Feb 18 00:06:14 <Ayrehead02>	Anyway, Tommy's redux proposal passes Feb 18 00:06:45 <Ayrehead02>	Tommy it's you again Feb 18 00:06:54 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Okay, again this is simple Feb 18 00:07:03 <Tommy-Macaroni>	The Inq and AC have official infoboxes Feb 18 00:07:20 <Tommy-Macaroni>	I think the EC should have one too, especially now we have 3 EC-only members Feb 18 00:07:28 <AnilSerifoglu>	Yay :P Feb 18 00:07:29 <Tommy-Macaroni>	I suggest the one on my page Feb 18 00:07:36 <Tommy-Macaroni>	https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/User:Tommy-Macaroni Feb 18 00:07:50 <Imperators>	shout-out to CP, QGJ, and Anil Feb 18 00:08:03 <Tommy-Macaroni> Feb 18 00:08:06 <Toprawa>	"This user is a member of the Wookieepedia EduCorps against his will." :P Feb 18 00:08:12 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Heh Feb 18 00:08:20 <QGJ>	Yep, pretty sure that's where I copied it from :p Feb 18 00:08:23 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Yeah don't worry Tope you don't have to use this :P Feb 18 00:08:27 <Toprawa>	:D Feb 18 00:08:28 <QGJ>	support Feb 18 00:08:32 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Support Feb 18 00:08:33 <Toprawa>	support Feb 18 00:08:35 <Ayrehead02>	Support Feb 18 00:08:35 <Imperators>	support Feb 18 00:08:38 <Corellianpremier>	support Feb 18 00:08:40 <AnilSerifoglu>	Support Feb 18 00:08:45 	support Feb 18 00:09:19 <Ayrehead02>	Alright Tommy's infobox motion passes Feb 18 00:09:42 <Tommy-Macaroni>	Let's prepare ourselves folks Feb 18 00:09:46 <Ayrehead02>	Finally QGJ's got an audio file proposal Feb 18 00:10:02 <Ayrehead02>	It's only fair QGJ that you know we've already been fighting about this for a few hours Feb 18 00:10:08 <QGJ>	For a while now, it's been sort of an unspoken rule that audio files are a welcome addition to the article Feb 18 00:10:16 <QGJ>	Though not a requirement Feb 18 00:10:39 <QGJ>	However, lately I've seen many reviews specifically object to lack of audio files Feb 18 00:11:02 <QGJ>	Not just on the CAN page, but it's up the AC and the INQ to decide what to do on the other pages Feb 18 00:11:35 <QGJ>	Basically, I think it's time to expand our rule 11 to talk about audio files Feb 18 00:12:04 <QGJ>	Either A) Make it so that an article is required to have all quotes provided with relevant audio files, if any exist Feb 18 00:12:24 <QGJ>	or B) Actually make the unspoken rule...well spoken Feb 18 00:13:00 <QGJ>	Personally, I support option B. I do not think that audio files are a necessity Feb 18 00:14:05 <Ayrehead02>	Tope pointed out that this would need to be a CT vote not a review board one Feb 18 00:14:05 <Toprawa>	It needs to be stated that all objections on all three reviewing pages are only considered valid if they're backed by actual site policy. Feb 18 00:14:27 <Toprawa>	As reviewers, we can't legally obligate someone to make a change to an article unless it's a site rule Feb 18 00:14:38 <Toprawa>	This is coded into the nomination rules of all three pages Feb 18 00:14:55 <Toprawa>	As it stands, audio files are not currently required by site policy, so we can't object to them not being there as reviewers Feb 18 00:14:56 <Ayrehead02>	Who's making objections to add audio by the way? Feb 18 00:15:13 <Toprawa>	We can ask the nominator to do it, but we can't hold up a nomination with a formal objection if they don't Feb 18 00:15:30 <Tommy-Macaroni>	I know me and Imperators are guilty of this, at least Feb 18 00:15:41 <AnilSerifoglu>	#MeToo Feb 18 00:16:16 <Toprawa>	To make a comparison... Feb 18 00:16:24 <QGJ>	Fan26 has been doing it as well, if we are calling out names Feb 18 00:16:24 <Imperators>	FWIW, the even more important thing here, QGJ, is that the rules of FAN/GAN/CAN can *only* be modified by a CT/Mofference. Feb 18 00:16:33 <Toprawa>	Over in the Inq, we were probing articles because they were sourcing by page number Feb 18 00:16:45 <Toprawa>	But we stopped that when it was brought up that this isn't a site policy Feb 18 00:17:11 <QGJ>	I don't mind taking it to the CT, if this is what is required Feb 18 00:17:29 <Toprawa>	I would advise refraining from turning the remainder of this meeting into a debate on this subject Feb 18 00:17:35 <Toprawa>	As there are competing opinions Feb 18 00:17:36 <Ayrehead02>	Agreed Feb 18 00:18:04 <Imperators>	yeah, QGJ, CT is where all this should go to Feb 18 00:18:13 <Imperators>	there sure are opinions Feb 18 00:18:39 <QGJ>	Oh, I'm sure there are Feb 18 00:19:02 <QGJ>	Okay, then expect this topic to pop up on the CT page in the coming days Feb 18 00:19:04 <Ayrehead02>	It sounds as though only I'm really in favour of adding audio so it shouldn't be too much of a fight Feb 18 00:19:26 <Imperators>	but you have fight in you, Ayre :P Feb 18 00:19:34 <Ayrehead02>	Eh I'm not fighting you all :P Feb 18 00:19:37 <QGJ>	Be like Ganner Rhysode Feb 18 00:19:42 <QGJ>	Make your last stand epic Feb 18 00:19:52 <Ayrehead02>	I'll just keep adding my own audio and leave it optional Feb 18 00:20:18 <Ayrehead02>	I swear it was you who originally persuade me they were important Tope, but maybe I misremembered :P Feb 18 00:20:25 <Ayrehead02>	*persuaded Feb 18 00:20:36 <Toprawa>	I do think they're important Feb 18 00:20:39 <Toprawa>	And I would prefer if they were always present Feb 18 00:20:46 <Toprawa>	I just don't like the idea of making it a requirement Feb 18 00:21:19 <Tommy-Macaroni>	If we're done, I'll be off lads. Thanks for hosting Ayre Feb 18 00:21:21 <Ayrehead02>	Fair enough I guess Feb 18 00:21:29 <QGJ>	Same here. I have to go now Feb 18 00:21:30 <Toprawa>	Thanks for hosting, Ayrehead Feb 18 00:21:35 <QGJ>	Thanks for hosting Ayre Feb 18 00:21:39 <Ayrehead02>	Anyone else have any discussion? Otherwise we're done Feb 18 00:21:41 <Imperators>	yeah, thanks, Ayre Feb 18 00:21:44 <AnilSerifoglu>	Thanks, Ayre!