Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Voorpee

Voorpee

 * Nominated by: ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:53, July 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Good article nomination that, quite simply, got too long. Well, in any case, before the nomination was closed, I had gotten support from one AgriCorp member and three regular users and didn't have any outstanding objections. Still, I'd be happy to address any other concerns that may be brought up. The original nomination can be found here. ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:53, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

(3 Inqs/4 Users/7 Total)
(Votes required: None. Required vote total reached, but current outstanding objections.)

Support

 * 1) It's nice to see a less serious article every so often. Ayrehead02 (talk) 08:19, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * 2)  IFYLOFD  ( Talk ) 23:35, July 31, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) Supreme Emperor (talk) 02:44, August 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 4) This... this is a thing. --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 23:25, August 6, 2016 (UTC)
 * 5) Cevan  IMPpress.svg  (talk)  17:31, October 30, 2016 (UTC)
 * 6) The Brave Goldfish (talk) 11:45, November 7, 2016 (EET)
 * 7) Great stuff! --Lewisr (talk) 01:10, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

Ayrehead

 * The intro should be updated to include information about the cloning and talent show. Ayrehead02 (talk) 07:22, July 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Intro updated with the new information. ProfessorTofty (talk) 19:37, July 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * I would reword the bts concerning Brown saying pets would appear in the third book as it is currently a bit confusing to read and not entirely clear that the Phantom Bully is the third book unless you follow the link. Ayrehead02 (talk) 07:22, July 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Wording alright now? ProfessorTofty (talk) 19:37, July 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Is it clear if the original Voorpee is the one that is kept, or could he be amongst the ones returned to the zoo or the rescue organization? If it isn't clar you should at least mention this in the behind the scenes and maybe even in the body. Ayrehead02 (talk) 07:22, July 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, I tried something like that, but if you look back at Manoof's objections on the original Good article nomination, I ended up getting rid of it because if nothing is stated either way, then the custom is to not say anything at all. And the book really doesn't. After the whole mess happens, Voorpee himself isn't mentioned again at all. It's entirely unclear whether they ever even found the original Voorpee. ProfessorTofty (talk) 19:37, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Floyd

 * Can we get a timeframe in the intro?
 * Timeframe has been added to the intro. ProfessorTofty (talk) 23:21, July 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * "In the second semester, Novachez, who had been struggling with his friendships," What do you mean by this? Was he struggling to make friends or having issues with the friends he had?
 * Reworded to make it clear that he was having issues with the friends he already had. ProfessorTofty (talk) 23:21, July 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * No quote for the P&T? I know he doesn't speak himself, but I'm sure there are lines said about him.  IFYLOFD  ( Talk ) 01:08, July 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * Good idea. Quotation for the P&T section has been added. ProfessorTofty (talk) 23:21, July 29, 2016 (UTC)

Exiled Jedi

 * The biography section needs to be subsectioned. Ideally, each section should have its own quote, provided there are enough quotes about Voorpee. I would think you could easily get at least three sections from what is there now.
 * Well, it was originally back when had nominated it for good article, but it was said that I didn't need them because the article wasn't long enough to merit it. I'll go ahead and get that taken care of. ProfessorTofty (talk) 22:40, February 11, 2017 (UTC)
 * And this is now done. ProfessorTofty (talk) 01:06, February 14, 2017 (UTC)
 * If there are interviews with the author, it seems to me that you could add a quote to the BTS about Voorpee from one of them.
 * The interview in question is one that I did. Voorpee is only mentioned in one question and with the way that the question was answered, I don't think adding a quote is really going to enhance the article in any way. ProfessorTofty (talk) 22:40, February 11, 2017 (UTC)
 * If "This article is non-canon within the Star Wars Legends continuity.", then please mention this in the BTS and provide a source for it. If it is one of the books that state this, then just source it to the book in question. Without a source, it just looks like an assumption.
 * Added this to the behind-the-scenes and linked it to the previously mentioned interview, which references the fact that the story is not canon. ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:20, February 12, 2017 (UTC)
 * You should try to limit the amount of times that you include a word in the main section in quotes. It doesn't seem necessary some of the times you are doing it. I think it would be easy to reword some of these sections to prevent the need for the quotes.
 * I can only find five instances of this and, I'm sorry, but in each case, it seems fitting. To explain further though, the character claim they are taking him for "walks," but said "walks" are actually an excuse to torture him. Another is "new pet," which again, I think makes more sense in quotation marks. Finally, I believe "commands such as 'jump' or 'roll over'" would be standard usage. ProfessorTofty (talk) 22:40, February 11, 2017 (UTC)
 * You have quite a few missing links in the article. Normally I would fix them myself, but there are a lot for an article this close to passing. For instance you are missing links to Torture, Week, Zoo, etc. You also have things that are linked in the introduction and not in the body. Everything needs to be linked once in the infobox, once in the introduction, and once in the body.
 * Everything done (and I think maybe one or two other things), except for "zoo." This is only ever referenced as "Naboo Zoo" throughout the article. Should I just link the "Zoo" at one point? I thought about adding something stating something like "a zoo based on the planet Naboo," but this almost seems like adding information that should be completely obvious simply for the point of getting a reference to "zoo" in there. Still need to do the sections - will take care of that later this evening or early tomorrow. ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:20, February 12, 2017 (UTC)
 * Never mind on that last bit - I found a way to work in links for zoo that feel reasonably natural. ProfessorTofty (talk) 01:08, February 14, 2017 (UTC)
 * I realize that this nomination had enough votes to pass, but I believe that these deficiencies need to be addressed before it can be considered a featured article.-- Exiled Jedi  ( talk ) 00:01, February 9, 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure, I don't mind doing that. I'm all about making sure we have it as good a quality as possible. I just hope it can be handled with good speed since I did already have enough votes to pass. Anyway, gotta go right now, but I will take care of / reply to the rest before the end of the evening. ProfessorTofty (talk) 22:40, February 11, 2017 (UTC)
 * "Students at the academy were encouraged to care for Voorpee at the academy's care center, feeding him a preferred diet of live insects and keeping his soft fur clean." I'm seeing some of this information in the body, but some of it seems to be exclusive to the introduction.
 * "arriving from the zoo with the other students at the beginning of the school year." This makes it sound like the students and Voorpee all went from the zoo to the academy at the start of the school year. Is this the case? If not, please reword this.
 * I believe you should keep the date consistent between reference 2 and the body of the article. In the reference, you have 196 BBY, while you link to 200 BBY in the body and introduction. You should probably just pipelink to 196 BBY in the body and introduction.
 * If there are other quotes related to Voorpee from the novels, please provide those for the subsections in the biography section.
 * Does The Essential Atlas say that voorpaks are small, fuzzy creatures? That is what reference 3 seems to be saying in the biography right now.
 * The third and final paragraphs of the biography would benefit from being reordered to present the events in a more chronological order. If would make sense to display the information in the current way if the article was about Novachez or someone else who found the information out in the presented order, but since this is outlining the events of Voorpee's life, a chronological ordering makes more sense. Just because a novel present the information in one order, does not mean that the article needs to as well.
 * You should not use contractions in a Wookieepedia article outside of quotes.-- Exiled Jedi  ( talk ) 23:37, May 22, 2017 (UTC)

Request to strike Exile Jedi's objections
Okay, this is why I start to get a bit irritated. I get distracted and neglect to check on the objections for jefflac for a little while and the nomination gets archived faster than I can blink. I know that you are supposed to be responsible for checking that and I blame myself too, but if I had just received a friendly note or anything, I would have been happy to take care of it. And I was in IRC several times last night also and nobody mentioned anything about it to me. I know there's procedures and all, but given the general apathy lately regarding the status articles process, it doesn't always pay to cling to procedure. Meanwhile, I've had these objections addressed for over three months and yet nothing has been done. If we're going to be so quick to enforce the one side, then the people who are responsible for doing the reviewing need to do their part too. In any case, before these objections came, I had the required votes to pass. I have addressed the objections and there has been no response. I am asking that the objections of Exiled Jedi be struck as having been addressed and un-responded, and if there are no other objections, then for the nomination to be passed. ProfessorTofty (talk) 14:45, May 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * After a conversation with Supreme Emperor, I have decided as a show of good faith to strike this request for now and give Exiled another chance to respond. ProfessorTofty (talk) 18:01, May 20, 2017 (UTC)