Wookieepedia:Good article nominations

 This page is for the nomination of good articles. This is not a way to showcase the articles of your favorite characters, spaceships, or the like. For a list of Good articles, see Category:Wookieepedia good articles.

A Good article is an article that adheres to quality standards, but cannot reach FA status due to its limited content.


 * Good article nominations history
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 * Good article nomination rules

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An article must&hellip;


 * 1) &hellip;be well-written and detailed.
 * 2) &hellip;be unbiased, non-point of view.
 * 3) &hellip;be sourced with all available sources and appearances.
 * 4) &hellip;follow the Manual of Style, Layout Guide, and all other policies on Wookieepedia.
 * 5) &hellip;following the review process, be stable, i.e., does not change significantly from day to day and is not the subject of ongoing edit wars. This does not apply to vandalism and protection or semi-protection as a result of vandalism.
 * 6) &hellip;not be tagged with any sort of improvement tags (i.e. more sources, expand, etc).
 * 7) &hellip;have a proper lead that gives a good summary of the topic if the length of the article supports it. This is essential in articles over 1000 words but may not be appropriate on articles with limited content.
 * 8) &hellip;have no more than 3 redlinks for articles less than 500 words, no more than 5 redlinks for articles 500 words or more, and no redlinks in the introduction, infobox, or any templates.
 * 9) &hellip;have significant information, especially a biography for character articles. For articles under 1000 words in length, comprehensive detail is required with all information covered from all sources and appearances. For articles over 1000 words, broad coverage addressing all major aspects of the topic is sufficient.
 * 10) &hellip;be completely referenced for all available material and sources. See Sourcing for more information.
 * 11) &hellip;have all quotes and images sourced.
 * 12) &hellip;provide at least one quote on the article if available. A leading quote at the beginning of the article would be preferred, though not required if no quotes are available. Although quotes may be placed in the body of the article, a maximum of one quote is allowed at the beginning of each section.
 * 13) &hellip;ideally include a "personality and traits" section on all character articles if information is available.
 * 14) &hellip;ideally include a "powers and abilities" section on relevant character articles, especially for Force-sensitive characters where said powers and/or abilities are stipulated.
 * 15) &hellip;include a "Behind the scenes" section.
 * 16) &hellip;include a reasonable number of images of sufficient quality to illustrate the article, if said images are available.
 * 17) &hellip;counting the introduction and "Behind the scenes" material, be at least 250 words long (not including captions, quotes, or headers, etc). Alternatively, a comprehensive article cannot exceed 3000 words.

How to nominate:


 * 1) First, nominate an article you find is worthy of good status, putting it at the bottom of the list below. Nominated articles must meet all seventeen requirements stated above.
 * 2) Add GAnom at the top of the article you are nominating.
 * 3) Be sure to place sign in the "Nominated by" line when the nomination is posted for voting.
 * 4) Others will object to the nomination if they disagree that the article is good enough; they will then supply reasons for doing so, and ways to improve the article (errors, style, organization, images, notability, sources).
 * 5) Supporters adjust the article until the objectors (with reasonable objections) are satisfied.

How to vote:


 * 1) Before doing anything, be sure to read the article completely, keeping a sharp eye out for mistakes.
 * 2) Afterward, compare the article to the criteria listed above, and then either support or object the article's nomination.
 * 3) *If you object, please supply concrete reasons for doing so, and how it can be improved.
 * 4) As stated above, any objections will be looked upon by the nominator, supporters, and anyone willing to improve the article, and action will be taken to please the objectors. Do not strike other users' objections; it is up to the objector to review the changes and strike if they are satisfied.
 * 5) Once a nomination has a total of five votes, with at least three votes coming from AgriCorps or Inquisitorius members&mdash;one of which must be an AgriCorps vote&mdash;after at least a week since it was nominated (beginning the day of its nomination) and no objections (or the objections have been stricken or overridden), the article will be considered a "Good article" and tagged with the template. The talk page will also be tagged with the GA template. Alternatively, if a nomination receives a total of five AgriCorps votes with no outstanding objections before one week has passed, the nomination will be considered successful.
 * 6) The article is placed on the Good article list.

All nominations will be considered idle and are subject to removal by AgriCorps vote if objections are not addressed after a period of 3 weeks.

Good article nominations
To nominate an article for Good article status, list it here. Nominated articles must meet all seventeen requirements stated above. If an article has a total of five votes, with at least three votes coming from AgriCorps or Inquisitorius members&mdash;one of which must be an AgriCorps vote&mdash;after at least a week since it was nominated (beginning the day of its nomination) and no objections (or the objections have been stricken or overridden), the article will be considered a "Good article" and tagged with the template. The talk page will also be tagged with the GA template. For complete instructions on archiving nominations please see here. Also remember to add GAnom at the top of the article you are nominating.

Mikka Reekeene

 * Nominated by: Skippy Farlstendoiro 14:31, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Bearded guy in background of obscure webcomic. Like everyone else in Star Wars, he has a detailed history.

(2 ACs/3 Users/5 Total)
Support
 * 1) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 10:08, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) LtNOWIS 17:02, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) Roughnecks for president. ~ SavageBob 22:58, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 4)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  01:45, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5)  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 16:28, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Before I take a detailed look, you need to make your paragraphs larger in size. ATM, your average para length is 2 sentences, making the article seem like a list of trivia items or something.  SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 07:56, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) *Done for Mikka; tried for the others but it's not easy to increase the avg over 2.3 sentences/paragraph with the existing information. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:17, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) Soresu's full review
 * 4) * Mikka Reekeene had been arrested by the Galactic Empire. This seems awkwardly thrown in. Could you provide some timeframe for this?
 * 5) **Not done bc: OS does not give that information; you know as much as I do.
 * 6) ***Then give some sort of reason why he goes to jail. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 22:25, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) ****Done.
 * 8) * There is no mention of his birthdate anywhere but in the infobox.
 * 9) **Added.
 * 10) * You switch between lens' and lens's
 * 11) **Good one. Catched.
 * 12) * Keep the intro in chronology. In the first sentence, you basically summarise everything he was during his lifetime. You should only state what he was before what happens in the next sentence (before he goes to jail).
 * 13) **Have a look.
 * 14) * the maximum leader of the Rougnecks Redundant. You've already said Lens was first in command of the Roughnecks.
 * 15) **Ok, but I specify that as a General she's still in charge.
 * 16) * she discovered that most of her previous men What previous men? From where?
 * 17) **I thought "mercenary leader" gave that info, but: modified.
 * 18) * Check for underlinking.
 * 19) **Have a look.
 * 20) * Context on the Satran Corporation
 * 21) **Not done bc: Again, this is all we know about Sartran.
 * 22) ***Oops sorry. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 22:25, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * 23) * In the bio you say he uses his empathy and caution. There should be ention of this in the P&T. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 00:22, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * 24) **Added. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 16:30, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * 25) ***Merge some of the paragraphs. They're becoming too small again. I understand that they may not be completely related to each other, but it keeps it organized and uniform. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 22:25, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * 26) ****Done.
 * 27) * As the co-leader of the Roughnecks, As the chief engineer of the Roughnecks a bit repititice. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 22:44, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * 28) *Done. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 07:33, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * 29) Prepare to be savaged...
 * 30) * Can you delink the names of folks in quotes who already appear linked in the main article?
 * 31) **Done.
 * 32) * The first sentence is confusing, as it makes it sound like he stopped being a male, Human, and/or mechanic when the Empire caught him. Otherwise, this is quite good. ~ SavageBob 16:15, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * 33) **Changed.Skippy Farlstendoiro 16:47, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * 34) "He commonly dressed in overalls and carried tools and switches which he sometimes forgot wherever he went." This reads rather awkwardly. Could it be tweaked, and the meaning clarified? Basically what it says right now is that he sometimes lost things everywhere he went.  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 03:31, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * 35) *Changed.--Skippy Farlstendoiro 15:47, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * 36) **Eh, that doesn't fix the problem. The problem is that you basically say that he sometimes does something all the time. Well, did he sometimes do it or did he always do it? Perhaps this could be fixed by saying something like: "He commonly dressed in overalls and carried tools and switches which he sometimes forgot while traveling." Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 16:13, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * 37) ***Let's try this wording; point is: He usually dressed in overalls; he usually carried tools; he sometimes lost tools. As far as I know, he never lost his overalls. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 16:25, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

Thar'quan

 * Nominated by: Skippy Farlstendoiro 14:31, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Gimme some air ← and this is the reason why I'm nominating this. Serious.

(0 ACs/3 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 08:36, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Better the Defel you know than the one you don't. ~ SavageBob 22:18, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) LtNOWIS 20:02, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Soresu
 * 2) * I have noticed that in a number of previous noms and also some of your current ones, the intro has not been sufficiently long. Please make it bigger. Check your other noms for the same problem. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 07:55, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) **Try now. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:17, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) * other scars due to his work with Rebel agent Sasnak Toxis while working for Hctaqsas Metals. Work/working a little repetitive. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 09:59, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) **I love Thesaurus. Look now. Skippy Farlstendoiro 10:27, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) Prepare to be savaged...
 * 7) * "favoring the Rebel network on nearby Sriluur." Can you explain what you mean by "favoring"?
 * 8) **Oh, yep. Done now. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 21:43, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) * I think a lot of the information in the second paragraph of "Biography" might better fit under "Personality and traits". A list of his scars and the fact that he showed them off seems more P&T'ish to me, for example. Nevertheless, the list of operations during which he received the injuries belongs instead under "Biography". In the end, you may have to repeat some information in both sections, but that's fine.
 * 10) * Does the book he first appeared in have a single author or a couple of authors? It might be good to note who created the character. Otherwise, looks solid! ~ SavageBob 01:17, December 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) **Done, done and, well, improved to the best of my skill.--Skippy Farlstendoiro 21:24, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * 12) *** I'm still unsure what the "favoring" part means, though. ~ SavageBob 22:25, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Bodo Baas's Master

 * Nominated by: Darth Morrt 08:33, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: This is my first try. Tell me if my English is too weird and I will stay at regular editing.

(2 ACs/4 Users/6 Total)
Support
 * 1) Your first vote. Not that hard, true? --Skippy Farlstendoiro 14:44, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Its not that bad for the first GA. Now you only need 3 ACs votes : ) Kreivi Wolter 11:04, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * 3)  QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 11:31, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * 4)  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 17:19, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) Looks good. --Jawaman No, I did NOT steal your droid! 17:21, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * 6)  CC7567  (talk) 19:44, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) The Grand Master, round one
 * 2) * Right now, there is simply too much information in the article that is irrelevant to Bodo Baas' master himself/herself. For example, the beginning of the biography is basically a history lesson that is completely unneeded for this article: "By 1000 BBY the New Sith Wars, thousand years of conflict between the Jedi and the Sith, which lasted from approximately 2,000 to 1,000 BBY, was over. The Ruusan Reformation reconstructed the government of the Galactic Republic taking power from the Supreme Chancellor to the Galactic Senate. Simultaneously, the Republic and the Jedi Order disbanded their armies and navies. The Order centralized the Jedi training on Coruscant and allowed only one Padawan per Master. Years of reconstuction began after the Dark Age."
 * 3) * Also, please work on your grammar. It is a requirement for GANs per the first part of rule number 1: an article must be well-written.
 * 4) * Jonjedigrandmaster ( Jedi Beacon ) 14:34, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) **Better now? Darth Morrt 10:49, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) Skippy wants to read this
 * 7) * Source all the infobox.
 * 8) * who will face the Dark Side, while the future of all the Jedi is at stake. Use past tense: "who would face" "the future [...] was/would be at stake".
 * 9) * Consider avoiding the string "he/she", using instead "the Master", "this Jedi Master", "this person"... For what we know, Baas's Master might well be neither male or female.
 * 10) * "he surely knew" "Maybe this led". Speculation; the Master did or did not.
 * 11) * The history mentions the writing of a prophecy, but it could also include that the prophecy was then stored on a Holocron (as I deduce from a later paragraph).
 * 12) * Consider adding an image of Baas, captioned to indicate it was the Master's apprentice.
 * 13) *Quite good for a first; when's the second one coming? :) Skippy Farlstendoiro 12:17, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * 14) **Done. I searched similar GA/FA articles as a model, like Unidentified Jedi (Sacking of Coruscant). My next will be the Tedryn Holocron, but only after this one is GA. Darth Morrt 14:39, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * 15) QGJ
 * 16) * First of all, was it explicitly stated that this individual was a Jedi Master? Having a Padawan does not necessarily equal a Master's title, and Jedi Knight could also be referred to as "master" by his Padawan.
 * 17) **It is not explicitly stated, but I think the Master is a Jedi Master because:
 * 18) He/she lived quite long to be a Master - I know this is speculation.
 * 19) He trained Bodo Baas - it is still possible not to be a Master, but unlikely.
 * 20) *I think it is not speculation, just common sense. As far as I know, there is no one, who trained someone to Master whitout to became a Master himself.
 * 21) As far as I know, the theory of master-who-not-a-Master comes from the Preques. I think pre-Phantom-Menace sources that say master or Master intended to say Jedi Master. Altough I think this should be true.
 * 22) TEGTTF says "written by his own Master" on page five, Master capitalized. Darth Morrt 00:51, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 23) *There are other examples of mentioning just "Master" in the book, where the actual Jedi is a Jedi Master. Darth Morrt 10:11, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * 24) **It is still speculation. However, since an AC member has also objected to it and I probably won't be able to dedicate too much time to my review in the future, I'll strike my own objection and leave this matter to Jon's judgment.  QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 20:43, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * 25) * In the biography, please follow the chronology. You jump from the master making a prophecy, to Bodo Baas telling it to Leia, then back to the master taking Bodo as a Padawan.
 * 26) **Done.
 * 27) * As per the established rules, the Master took a Krevaaki Padawan, Bodo Baas, descendant of Vodo-Siosk Baas. By 590 BBY, the training was complete, and Baas was assigned to the Adega system, where he served with a group of other Jedi. I'm pretty sure that Dark Empire 5: Emperor Reborn is not a source for all of this.
 * 28) **Done.
 * 29) * Context on Vodo-Siosk Baas and Anakin Solo. Leia and Luke also need context.
 * 30) **Vodo removed. Anakin is part of the prophecy.
 * 31) * How are the quotes in the biography and the P&A relevant to the master? They are just random statements about the Force.
 * 32) **Bio quote is not really relevant, deleted. P&A quote is added because the most important thing we know about the Master is his prophecy, seeing the future. I moved it to Bio. Darth Morrt 00:51, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 33) ***This still doesn't cut it. You can't just take random quotes from various sources and use them in your article. A quote must be taken from a source in which the character is featured/mentioned, and it should talk about the character in question. QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 20:43, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * 34) ****Adressed.Darth Morrt 19:38, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * 35) * "Legacy" should be a subsection in the biography.
 * 36) **Done.
 * 37) * The Master first appeared in the sixth issue of the Dark Empire comic series&hellip; No, he did not; he was only mentioned.
 * 38) **Done.
 * 39) * In the appearances, list the specific issue(s) of Dark Empire in which the master is mentioned.
 * 40) **Done.
 * 41) * Have you checked all sources that might mention the master, including The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia and those listed in the Tedryn Holocron's and Bodo Baas' articles?
 * 42) * Please watch your linking. Each item must me linked once in the intro, once in the infobox, and once in the main body of the article.
 * 43) **Done.Darth Morrt 13:09, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * 44) *Has a little too flowery prose and excessive details to my liking, but overall, quite good for a first try. QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 17:08, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * 45) **Mostly done. Checking sources, but not all is availible for me. Darth Morrt 00:51, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 46) ***I haven't found any fourther info about the Master in these sources: Force Heretic: Reunion, Dark Empire endnotes, Dark Empire Sourcebook, TEGTC, JA Sourcebook, TEGTTF, Dark Empire Handbook, TNEG to Weapons and Technology, TEG Alien Species, TNEG Alian Species, Ultimate Alian Anthology. Darth Morrt 11:10, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * 47) ***These sources are not availible for me: A Guide to the Star Wars Universe, any version; Star Wars Encyclopedia, any version; Fact Files, TEG Weapons and Technology, Firestorm short story. Darth Morrt 11:10, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * 48) ****I have access to most of these, except the Fact Files, A Guide to the SW Universe, and The Complete SW Encyclopedia. I'll try to help you out, but you'll also have to ask other users. There are quite a few people here who have the CSWE; is the go-to guy regarding the Fact Files; and I believe  has ATTSWU.  QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 20:43, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * 49) *****Nothing in Firestorm, The Essential (and the New Essential) Guides to Weapons and Technology and the SW Encyclopedia. QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 17:27, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * 50) ******Also nothing in Fact Files.Darth Morrt 17:33, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * 51) *******Also nothing in any edition of AGTTSWU. Darth Morrt 10:05, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * 52) The Grand Master, round two
 * 53) * If something is "unknown" it should not be placed in the article: (i.e. "It is unknown if the Master fought in the New Sith Wars...")
 * 54) * If it actually is confirmed that this prophecy came from an actual Force Vision, than this should be mentioned in the biography, and not just the Powers and abilities section. If this is not confirmed, then it cannot be put in the article.
 * 55) * In the BTS you refer to the Master as "him/her." Is the Master's gender unknown? If this is so, then you should go through the article and remove all of the references to the master's gender. If it is actually confirmed that this master is male, then this should be stated in the infobox as well as the article body.
 * 56) * Also, just because the prophecy was written around 990 BBY doesn't mean the master was born before that time. As the date is "approximate," the master could easily have been born shortly after 990 BBY and have had the prophecy early enough in life to still make it approximately one thousand years before 10 ABY. While it is likely that the master was born beforehand, it is still speculative, and therefore cannot be put in the article.
 * 57) **This cannot go in the infobox, either.
 * 58) ***Deleted. He could be born much earlier too. Around 990 BBY is not good for birth date. Darth Morrt 01:34, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 59) * Jonjedigrandmaster ( Jedi Beacon ) 18:05, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * 60) **Done Darth Morrt 00:51, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 61) The Grand Master, round three
 * 62) * The prophecy that this Jedi made should be mentioned sooner in the intro. Right now it seems like context for the Tedryn Holocron rather than a major event in the Jedi's life.
 * 63) * The sentences in the first paragraph of the biography are all short and abrupt. See if you can make them flow better. Also, why don't you go into details about the prophecy here? As far as we know, it was the most important event of the Jedi's life, and should be detailed more upon its first mention.
 * 64) **Please fix your grammar here.
 * 65) ***You cannot refer to "the male one" or "the pregnant female" here, since you have not yet introduced either one.
 * 66) ****Done. Darth Morrt 19:38, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * 67) * "where he served with a group of other Jedi."The meaning and purpose of this is unclear. What other Jedi? How and who/what were they serving? How is this relevant to the Master?
 * 68) **You've overelaborated on this now. Just explain the basics here, since this isn't something that's actually hapening to the master him/herself; it's just relating to something he/she did. Also, please word this section better, as it's become very awkward to read.
 * 69) ***Better information-wise, but it's still very awkward.
 * 70) ****Better? Darth Morrt 19:38, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * 71) *****Some, but "teaching" is confusing (teaching who/what?)
 * 72) ******There is no specification on this in the Dark Empire. Palpatine just said "Jedi history and teachings".Darth Morrt 20:03, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * 73) * You say in the BTS that this Jedi was only mentioned in the Jedi vs. Sith sourcebook, but this is not specified under the Sources section. If he was indeed only mentioned and did not actually appear, you need to add a mentioned only tag to the source. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 23:30, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 74) **Mentioned only tag goes only to the Appearance section, doesn't it? In sourcebooks everything is mentioned only, because nothing is appearing. Others done. Maybe a little too much semi-relevant details, but there is very few thing that are clearly and strictly relevant to the Master.Darth Morrt 22:55, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * 75) ***Sorry, my mistake. However, unless this particular Master has his own entry in the source, then you need to state what entry he is mentioned in (i.e. the Tedryn Holocron, unless I am mistaken). Also, please work on your grammar throughout the article. Once again, this falls under Rule 1 of the GAN page, and it shouldn't be the reviewers' job to have to fix this for you. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 00:26, December 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * 76) ****Done. I do my best with grammar, but my English is not perfect. Darth Morrt 13:09, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * 77) *****I understand, just please be extra-careful about it; grammar mistakes often make reviewing more difficult, as the reviewer is not always sure of your meaning. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 19:04, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * 78) * Regarding Qui-Gon's objection above; every single bit of evidence you used to refer to this Jedi as Master is complete speculation. If it is not stated in an official source, then it cannot be stated in an article here. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 19:04, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * 79) ** Isn't it just a logical deduction to state that the Master was a Jedi Master, since he had a Padawan who made the trials? Darth Morrt 22:22, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * 80) ***Done.Darth Morrt 19:38, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * 81) ****I'll give it another look-over soon. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 20:08, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * 82) * "The renewal of the Galactic Republic by the Ruusan Reformation affected not only the Government's structure, but also the Jedi Order itself. New educational rules were applied by the Jedi Council to prevent any unsupervised student from falling to the dark side. As per the established rules, the Jedi took a Krevaaki Padawan, Bodo Baas." Are you sure that this is the actual reason that this Jedi took Baas as his Padawan? Baas' article doesn't mention this reasoning at all. Remember, if this reasoning is not stated in any source, then it cannot be stated here.
 * 83) **This is just some average statement about the Jedi Order after the Ruusan Reform. They applied he rule of only-youngs-to-padawan and the Master should follow this rule. If any info not explicitly stated in a source should be removed, then nearly nothing would remain. The only direct and clear info about the master is in the Dark Empire: "For you, Bobo Baas will speak a prophecy written one thousand years before your time, by my own master." And this is all, the TEGTTF just repeat this. So it is not stated that he is a Jedi (he could be a karatemaster of Baas), nor that he was the prophet (he could write down someone else's prophecy). Darth Morrt 15:14, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * 84) ***Speculation is not allowed here, because speculation is original research that does not come from any official source and therefore is not canon. For instance, because no source says that this individual took Baas as a Padawan because of those rules, it is speculation. Because it has not come from any actual source it is not canon and must be removed. If it is really as unclear as you imply whether or not this master actually made the prophecy, then it must be removed, because it is unverified by any Star Wars source and is therefore not yet canon. However, by the lead quote of this page, you can at least say that the master at least documented the prophecy, even if the master didn't actually create it. Be careful with this, though, and double-check everything to make sure that you're not removing valid information.
 * 85) ****Deleted the reasoning. Is it good, or the "The renewal of the..."-section should be deleted also?
 * 86) **** I can't decide whether the prophesying is original research or not. The lead quote is the main source of the article. I would say the master is not just a documenter and he is a Jedi Master, but the last was objected. Can you help me to decide? Darth Morrt 19:50, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * 87) *****Adressed. Darth Morrt 10:05, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * 88) ******This still remains. Why is the information still there if this Jedi has no direct connection to it as far as we know?
 * 89) *******Done. Darth Morrt 22:22, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * 90) * Please check your grammar in the third paragraph of the bio.
 * 91) **Done. Darth Morrt 15:14, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * 92) * Is there an article for the confrontation of between Palpatine and Luke and Leia? If so, then you should link to it in the article.
 * 93) **Battle of Pinnacle Base. Darth Morrt 15:14, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * 94) * Some of the Legacy section just restates what you've said earlier in the bio. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 21:15, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * 95) **Done. Darth Morrt 15:14, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * 96) * I believe that if Baas said that his Master wrote down the prophecy "1,000 years ago" in 10 ABY, then you can say that this individual lived around the time of the New Sith Wars and wrote the prophecy around 990 BBY, so that you give a time frame for when the prophecy was written.
 * 97) **Done.
 * 98) * The wording of the second half of the first sentence of the intro is rather awkward. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 21:12, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * 99) **Better? Darth Morrt 22:22, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * 100) * The last paragraph of the bio should be merged to the Legacy section. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 21:31, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * 101) **Done. Darth Morrt 07:05, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * 102) ***Okay, but why is the first confrontation with Palpatine mentioned if it is not the confrontation that ultimately defeated him?
 * 103) ****I think, the prophecy is refering to the first confrontation, which happens at the end of the same story arc. I have added the final confrontation to give an end to the section.
 * 104) * Grammar issue for the final sentence of the intro: the way you have it written now, the thing "which contained the prophecy" could refer to either Bodo Baas or the Holocron.
 * 105) ** Darth Morrt 20:24, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * 106) Attack of the Clone
 * 107) * Can the intro be expanded at all? It's a little on the measly side at the moment.
 * 108) * In the Bio, you first say that "Later, the written prophecy was stored in the Tedryn Holocron" but later state that "By 590 BBY, Baas had put the prophecy written by his Master in the holocron." Which is correct? Please clarify this redundancy and fix the bit you put in at the end of the intro if necessary.
 * 109) * Please find a replacement for the colloquial usage of "put."
 * 110) **Previously an AC changed it from 'add' to 'put'. Redone.
 * 111) * Is there any chance you can find some suitable pronouns to use instead of the constant "this Jedi" or "Jedi"? It often gets confusing with the other Force-sensitives you mention.
 * 112) **His/her gender is not confirmed. I haven't found any other than 'this Jedi' and 'this individual'.
 * 113) ***"Being"? "Personage"? In any case, you should try using "Jedi" less to avoid confusing the Force users in the article with the article's actual subject.  CC7567  (talk) 01:31, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * 114) ****Not to an excessive point, though. He's still a Jedi, and taking that out completely isn't good either.  CC7567  (talk) 19:44, December 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * 115) * Can you clarify how the confrontation between Skywalker, Organa Solo, and Palpatine was relevant to his Legacy (and the prophecy)?
 * 116) **"She must battle join against this thief" - I think this refers to the confrontation in Dark Empire 6.
 * 117) ***Then you need to clarify that in the article to leave no room for speculation.  CC7567  (talk) 01:31, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * 118) ****Is this enough, or sould I add something about Luke held in semi-captive and about Leia joining him and the Emperor. Darth Morrt 08:10, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * 119) * How did the prophecy foretell the "specific beings" who would take part in it when the prophecy did not include any names?
 * 120) **Previously an AC removed the 'in a poetic form' part. I think "A brother and sister born to walk the sky" is a poetic form of 'Skywalker'. Darth Morrt 23:05, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * 121) ***"Only she can save the Skywalkers from certain doom" "Skywalkers" is pretty exact. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 00:14, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * 122) * Possibly more to come.  CC7567  (talk) 21:24, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

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Lyunesi

 * Nominated by: --Eyrezer 09:28, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: A species hunted by Boba Fett. Thanks to Borsk and Cav for supplying some sources.

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Object Comments
 * 1) Skippy having a look
 * 2) * Bio: Frail? You mean physically fragile, mentally fragile, easily broken, infirm...? Could you please give more info?
 * 3) * S&C: "Skill" used twice in a row. Please replace one.
 * 4) * In the galaxy: Any further information on Dinnid's death? The previous sentences suggest that the Shell Hutts were happy with Dinnid's services. Was he executed for some reason, or accidentally?...
 * 5) * Skippy Farlstendoiro 11:59, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * 1: It literally only says "the frail species". 2: Fixed. 3: I will see what I can do. --Eyrezer 10:49, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Soresu
 * 2) *Why is there nothing about Boba Fett and his apparent hunts of the Lyunesi? Looks like it could be expanded upon.
 * 3) *Otherwise, an interesting article. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 01:17, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) Prepare to be savaged...
 * 5) *In addition to the above from Skippy and SoresuMakashi, can you clarify what you mean in the lead section about how their homeworld was "consumed in intense competition"? Does this mean consumed in the way we use it to mean we are "consuming" the earth by not recycling, etc.? Or do you mean "consumed" as in "dominated by," like "he was consumed with passion"? ~ SavageBob 06:08, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) **I'm away for about a week, but will get onto these objections on my return. --Eyrezer 23:09, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Neimoidian controller (Saak'ak)

 * Nominated by: Kreivi Wolter 22:30, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Finally! I have wait a long time for this. Lets not screw it up.

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 * 1) I'll vote! Just don't hurt me! Skippy Farlstendoiro 14:25, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2)  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 21:26, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Object 12px"> QuiGonJinn (Talk) 20:27, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Please work on your grammar. This is a requirement per GAN Rule 1: an article must be well-written, and "well-written" includes good grammar. Incorrect grmmar furthermore makes it difficult to review articles, as it often makes the meaning of certain phrases confusing.  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 22:55, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) *Ookay, I have now read the whole article. I fixed the errors I found, but if theres more of them, could you give me at least one example. I know it's not your job, but it would greatly help me in future. Kreivi Wolter 11:29, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) Skippy'll have a look
 * 4) * Bio: Context for the "blockade of Naboo" and for "the crisis". You could also mention that Gunray was the Neimoidian in charge of the operation.
 * 5) **Fixed the crisis, but I wonder is it really necessary to tell about Gunray's role in this article? Kreivi Wolter 12:27, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) * He then managed to open the door. Consider Kenobi then managed to avoid ambiguity.
 * 7) **Roger roger. Kreivi Wolter 12:27, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) * Kenobi decided to find a way to cut the doors power off by destroying the generator, which caused the Neimoidian controller to deny it by screaming. What's "it"? What is he denying? The obvious fact that the generator has been destroyed?
 * 9) **XD when you put it in that way. Uhh, better now? Kreivi Wolter 12:27, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) * was later able to escape from the ship. Who did so?
 * 11) **Roger roger. Kreivi Wolter 12:27, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 12) * Please reword the following as I cannot really understand what you mean: Kenobi then questioned the controller about his work on the room, which the Neimoidian replied that he was monitoring the power generators of the hangar bay; also Kenobi cared for little
 * 13) **Roger roger. Kreivi Wolter 12:27, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 14) *I like this. Consider creating a sub-category of images for this guy's. Skippy Farlstendoiro 11:40, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 15) **Why the h*ll not? : ) Thanks for the review. Kreivi Wolter 12:27, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 16) The Grand Master
 * 17) * Is the "small room full of computers" the room from which he controlled the hangar bay power generators? If so, please clarify this.
 * 18) **Yes it is : ) Kreivi Wolter 20:34, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 19) * "which caused the Neimoidian controller to deny him to do so by screaming." Do you mean the Neimoidian tried to prevent him from doing so by screaming? Please clarify.
 * 20) **Removed "by screaming". Better now? Kreivi Wolter 20:34, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 21) ***"By screaming" wasn't really the problem. What you mean by "To deny him to do so" is still unclear. This wording does not work here.
 * 22) ****Hmmm. I tried to describe this quote: "No! Don't touch the power generator". Damn, how do I have to say it? Kreivi Wolter 18:48, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * 23) *****That's not "denying" him anything. "Deny" is the problem with the current wording.
 * 24) ******What word would suit better? Kreivi Wolter 20:09, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * 25) *******Probably something like "prevent." Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 01:21, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * 26) ********But "prevent" would indicate that he tried to stop the Jedi, but he only told him not to do it. Hmm, I have to say, I'm not sure how you say that in english... could the word "forbid" do the trick? Kreivi Wolter 12:23, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * 27) *********Hmm, then perhaps "to yell at him not to touch the generator," or something like that?
 * 28) **********Hey, there it is! That fits perfectly. Thank you for you help, again. Kreivi Wolter 19:53, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * 29) * "When the generator was destroyed, he only wanted to be left alone." Why did he want to be left alone?
 * 30) **I dont know. In the game, he only says "Please, leave me alone". Kreivi Wolter 20:34, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 31) * Because the player can choose not to interact with the controller, you should add in the bts that it is unknown if any actual conversation between Kenobi and the controller took place in canon.
 * 32) ** I would rather not. Its already told by the Gamemechanics-template. Just like in the article Unidentified Naboo merchant, which is a good article. Kreivi Wolter 20:34, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 33) ***In that game the player has to interact with the merchant. It is the player's choice whether to kill or realease him, but either way the player must interact with him. The player does not have to interact with this controller. For an example of what I mean, see such good articles as Kadir and Larrim.
 * 34) ****Um, the player dont actually have to interact with the merchant. In game, it is entire possible not to even meet him, and the player dont even have to. Kreivi Wolter 15:11, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * 35) *****Well then that article has incorrect information, and I will bring this up at the next AC meeting. However, the fact remains that the player's conversation with the Neimoidian may or may not have canonically taken place, and thus even if it did take place, the form of the conversation is unknown (unless there are no options for what you say during the game), and this needs to be stated in your article.
 * 36) ******No need to do that; the merchant has been updated accordingly. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size:
 * 1) *******Well, what can I say to that? Better now? Kreivi Wolter 18:48, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) *I have gone through and fixed some some more of your grammar, but please continue to work on this in the future. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 18:35, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) **I will. Thanks for the help. May the Force be with you : ) Kreivi Wolter 20:34, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) Have you checked the game guide for a mention/any new information? QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 20:39, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) *Of what? Damn, I didn't even knew that that exist. Kreivi Wolter 05:57, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) **Just FYI, almost every Star Wars game (except the handheld, cellphone, flash and old Atari/NES/Arcade ones) has an accompanying strategy guide, so you must be sure to have them checked before nominating an article from a video game. This time, you could try contacting, who has the guide, but it's quite hard to catch up with him. QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 20:27, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) ***Ookay, I keep that in mind. I asked the said user about the mention. Now we can only wait :¨( Kreivi Wolter 18:48, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) ****Doesn't the guide include a Voice cast-section? In that case, aren't all of the characters undoubtedly mentioned in the book? Kreivi Wolter 15:51, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) Fett
 * 10) * "During the Federation's blockade of the planet Naboo he worked in a small computer room in the Saak'ak, where he was confronted and questioned by Jedi Knight Obi-Wan Kenobi..."' Obi-Wan was still a Padawan during the blockade of Naboo. He officially became a Knight after Yoda knighted him, which was after the blockade and the capture of Gunray.
 * 11) **And after the death of Darth Maul : ) . I realized it this morning. Kreivi Wolter 16:00, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * 12) * "However, Trade Federation Viceroy Nute Gunray, under the command of Sith Lord Darth Sidious, intended to kill the Jedi and begin the Invasion of Naboo." Quite confusing. Gunray did not intended to kill Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon, he wanted to after Sidious gave the Viceroy the order to do so. IIRC, you should say that the Jedi entered the Saak'ak as Republic ambassadors, but their coverup was foiled by that TC-14 droid.
 * 13) **Your objection just contains too much information which doesn't relate to this article. And what do you mean he didn't intend to kill them? I think he did. Kreivi Wolter 16:00, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * 14) ***I realize that, however, you misunderstood me. Though, this objection appears to be corrected.
 * 15) * "The Jedi were able to escape Gunray's trap, but they were later separated." Separated? How were the Jedi separated? Also, just like the preceding objection, elaborate a little more on what Gunray tried to do on the Saak'ak. Without this information, the article is confusing.
 * 16) **Can't tell too much, as it doesn't relate to this article. However, fixed some of it. Better now? Kreivi Wolter 16:00, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * 17) ***It's relevant. However, it's fine now.
 * 18) * " Jedi Knight Obi-Wan Kenobi, who was trying to reach the hangar to escape from the Saak'ak, found his way to the room where the Neimoidian controller was working." I'm confused here. You say that the Jedi left Gunray's trap (which wasn't fully explained) but now they're still on the Saak'ak? Please clairfy. I would like to know how they separated, what this trap was and why suddenly did Obi-Wan find this room. Also, again, Obi-Wan is not a Jedi Knight at this point.
 * 19) **Again, much of that doesn't relate this article. Fixed the Jedi Knight thought. Kreivi Wolter 16:00, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * 20) ***No; you misunderstood me again, Kreivi. Please clarify how Obi-Wan found the room where this Neimoidian was in. However, I see that Jonny corrected this.
 * 21) *I'll continue later on.  JangFett  (Talk) 12:47, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * 22) **Well, much of your obcjetions fixed by Jonjedigrandmaster. Kreivi Wolter 19:53, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * 23) ***I thank Jonny for that then. :P  JangFett  (Talk) 21:28, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * 24) One more: could you condense the information about Kenobi and Jinn in the second paragraph of the bio? There's just a bit too much extraneous info on them there.  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 21:21, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * 25) *Pffffff... first I'm told to expand the section, as it's too fuzzy without the info of the Jedi. And now it's too long. Sigh... but, I think it's not too long; just look the same section on article OOM-9. Sure, this section is little longer than the one in OOM-9, but like Jang said, the section is little too confusing without it. Kreivi Wolter 17:20, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * 26) **Not only is this section longer than OOM-9's, OOM-9 is also a much larger article than this one, meaning that this section is much larger proportionately. There's just too much extraneous detail right now: "Shortly after the beginning of the blockade, Jedi Master Qui-Gon Jinn and his Padawan, Obi-Wan Kenobi, were sent by the Republic's Supreme Chancellor, Finis Valorum, to negotiate a solution between the Federation and Naboo. However, Trade Federation Viceroy Nute Gunray, under the command of Sith Lord Darth Sidious, was ordered to kill the Jedi and begin the Invasion of Naboo. The Jedi were able to escape Gunray's attempted assassination in the Saak'ak's conference room, but they were later separated after being attacked by destroyer droids." All this could easily be condensed. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 17:56, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * 27) ***Good now? Kreivi Wolter 21:04, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * I have thought to made as many articles of this PM game as possible, but now that I know that there is an official guide (which I dont have), and theres really isn't many users that owns it (at least as far as i know), do I have to cancel this idea?. Kreivi Wolter 12:23, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

Battle of Primus Goluud

 * Nominated by:  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 03:24, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Yep.

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Support
 * 1) Nice. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 03:20, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Goodie : ) Kreivi Wolter 04:44, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Kreivi sputters
 * 2) * Casualties: No notable figures... eh, what?
 * 3) **Yeah... there's no info given on casualties in the source material.
 * 4) ***Then it shoud be "Casualties: Unknown".
 * 5) ****Fine. Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 00:58, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) * Prelude is now bigger than the battle itself. I'm not familiar with the appearances/sources, so I ask: can the battle section be improved?
 * 7) **Not really. The battle itself is very, very short. The actual fighting between Teta's forces and the Sith is only in a couple panels of the comic.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 23:31, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) *This was just my first, single look on the article. More to come, if necessary.Kreivi Wolter 13:24, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

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Gira

 * Nominated by: Jedi Kasra (comlink) 22:37, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: The guy kills himself after Darth Vader betrays him, heh&hellip;

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 * 1) Pre-nom reviewed. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 22:45, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 01:54, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) --Demos Traxen 02:08, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * 4)  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 19:43, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Soresu
 * 2) * managed to survive the Great Jedi Purge The Great Jedi Purge was an extended extermination of the Jedi. This event would have been part of it. It would be more correct to say he survived Order 66, or, as you have done in the intro, the initial stages.
 * 3) **Please take a look at it.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 14:40, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) The Grand Master
 * 5) * "The Dark Lord of the Sith Darth Vader eventually found Gira and the Padawans aboard a starship which was assisting them." This is rather confusing. How was the starship assissting them? (Also clarify this in the bio)
 * 6) **Please try it.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 04:53, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) ***Okay, but now it sounds like the ship is sentient. I'm assuming that the crew of the ship (or at least the commander) was who was really aiding them, no?
 * 8) ****Please try it.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 18:43, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) * "&hellip;but was betrayed by Vader when the Sith ordered the ship's commander to&hellip;" The commander of what ship? (The betrayal isn't very clear here, so this is rather confusing)
 * 10) **Please try it.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 04:53, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) * When dueling Vader, what do you mean Gira was "being drawn to the dark side of the Force?"
 * 12) **This was in the story, it explains that Gira was being slowly drawn to it during his duel with Vader.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 17:43, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 13) * "&hellip;realizing that his destiny was to fail at both his duty and himself&hellip;" What do you mean by "fail at himself?"
 * 14) **Please try it.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 18:56, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * 15) * Could you make an article for this battle?
 * 16) **Don't see how, the battle hasn't been mentioned in any other in-universe source. The CSWE says this took place on a ship, so would I title it Battle aboard an unidentified ship (Great Jedi Purge)?--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 04:53, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * 17) ***That could work. It's definitely a main event in Gira's life; I think you should at least make a stub for it.
 * 18) ****Done.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 19:52, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 19) * Could you make an article for the ship commander?
 * 20) **We don't know anything about this commander, or if the commander is a man, woman, or anything.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 04:53, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * 21) ***We know that the commander commanded a ship that aided a group of Jedi during the Great Jedi Purge. We know that Vader attacked them, and that the commander betrayed the Jedi when he realized that the Jedi wouldn't be able to fend off the Imperials. We don't need to know the commander's species or gender for an article about him/her/it.
 * 22) ****OK, I'll create the article, but what exactly would I title it?--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 19:55, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 23) *****How about just Unidentified starship commander?
 * 24) ******Done.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 18:43, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * 25) * Jonjedigrandmaster ( Jedi Beacon ) 18:52, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * 26) **Thanks for the review, Jon.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 18:59, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * 27) ***No problem.
 * 28) * Just one more quick question; the events here are a little unclear. Does the first "he" refer to Gira? Do you mean the stormtrooper corpses? "After he defeated the stormtroopers there, the ship's commander told the Gira that Vader had just entered the ship and was seven hundred meters away from the Jedi's position. Gira noticed that the corpses on the ground were shot through their backs; when he asked the commander about this, Vader ambushed the Jedi." Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 19:13, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * 29) **Please try it.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 19:25, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * 30) ***Better, but the corpses part is still confusing. Didn't Gira just kill them? Why would he be confused about how they had been killed?
 * 31) ****Added "whom he had not killed".--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 19:33, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * 32) *****Ok, but are they or aren't they stormtroopers? (You don't have to clarify this on the page&mdash;right now it implies that they were.) I just want to make sure. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 19:37, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * 33) ******Ah, OK. Yes, they are stormtroopers, added.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 19:42, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * 34) *******Hey Jon, they weren't stormtroopers, rather they were Imperial corpses. So I added this.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 15:36, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * 35) ********Ok, cool. :P Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 15:38, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * I know, it needs more images. If anyone has Star Wars Tales 12, feel free to upload an image of Gira dueling Vader and an image of Gira putting his saber to his chest.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 22:37, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * Here you go: Gira vs. Vader, Gira's death. Xicer9 [[Image:atgar.svg|20px]]( Combadge) 02:06, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, thank you, Xicer!--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 02:32, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

First Battle of Korriban (Great Hyperspace War)

 * Nominated by:  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 01:36, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Yes, more TOTJ.

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Vilosorian

 * Nominated by: --Eyrezer 09:02, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Thanks to for the CSWE info

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Support
 * 1) So basically this world's been occupied by every government organization ever. Next thing you know it'll be infinite empire territory too. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 10:26, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Perhaps they are related to the Dazouri. ~ SavageBob 04:01, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * 3)  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 22:19, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:08, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Toprawa:
 * 2) *Are we sure "metamorphosizing" is a word, or is this word used canonically? Because I'm pretty sure "metamorphosing" is the word.
 * 3) **The source uses "metamorphosized". I think I've changed the tense correctly. --Eyrezer 02:14, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) *The second paragraph of the "History" section has little to nothing to do with the Vilosorian species itself. The species, in fact, is not once mentioned within that paragraph, as this is all information that should properly fall under the Vilosoria article, where the planet's history can be recounted in detail. Unless you can directly tie this information back to specific Vilosorian involvement, I suggest removing this paragraph, or otherwise find some way to heavily condense this information into a significantly smaller amount of text. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:53, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) **It was partly this objection that inspired this Senate Hall thread. I'd appreciate your input. I'd prefer not to have to include that info in the Vilosoria article itself (if I were ever to write it), but at the moment, leaving it out could leave open claims of not including relevant info. Damned if you do... --Eyrezer 00:07, December 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) ***I'm away for about a week, but will get onto these objections on my return. --Eyrezer 23:09, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) ****How does it look now? --Eyrezer 19:51, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * 8) *****I like that much better. Good job. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:08, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

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Second Battle of Korriban (Great Hyperspace War)

 * Nominated by:  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 03:12, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Ho-hum.

(1 ACs/1 Users/2 Total)
Support
 * 1) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 05:51, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2)  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 15:04, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Object Soresu
 * 1) * Seeing that surrender was their only option, Dakhan ordered suicide attacks on the Republic forces, Clearly, surrender was not their only option if they managed to suicide attack.
 * 2) **Not really. The Atlas, which is the source I went to get info on this stage of the battle, says "When it became clear that surrender was their only option, acting Dark Lord Shar Dakhan ordered his warriors into suicide attacks against the invading fleet."
 * 3) ***Well that makes no sense to me. If they did something else then surrender wasn't the only option. Sigh. Whatever the Atlas says. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 05:51, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) * You missed a description of the aftermath quote, so the source has become the description instead, and there is no ref tag. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 11:16, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) **Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 02:26, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) The Grand Master
 * 7) * Why the speculation here? "but the Koros forces, with numbers on their side and fueled by Teta's rhetoric, seemed too much." Also, the meaning is unclear. "Seemed too much" for what?
 * 8) **There isn't speculation in the sentence, or at least not intentionally. Reworded.
 * 9) * "The Sith Empire had fallen." Awfully short and choppy, and I can't help but feel that it's somewhat redundant. Please combine it or remove.
 * 10) **Removed.
 * 11) * The Great Hyperspace War template says that the Gank Massacres is the following conflict, whereas the infobox currently lists the Great Droid Revolution. Which is correct?
 * 12) **Gank Massacre seems to be correct. Changed.
 * 13) *Nice work. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 16:02, December 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * 14) **Thanks for the review.  IFYLOFD  ( Floyd's crib ) 06:00, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

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The Clone Wars: Covetous

 * Nominated by: Kreivi Wolter 18:01, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:It was harder than I expected.

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 * 1) Nice job, Kreivi. Grammar problems are fixed now, I couldn't find any anymore. --Jawaman No, I did NOT steal your droid! 12:30, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

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 * 1) Minor but extensive grammar issues throughout the article. I seriously recommend finding a better way to fix this, as grammar is currently your main issue and the problem that the GAN shouldn't have to fix for nominators.  CC7567  (talk) 20:05, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) *Ohhhh damn. Every time I think "now theres no bad grammar", someone comes and says that one little phrase. And I know it isn't your guys job to fix them. Sigh. I just have to learn to write better... But, for now, I ask only one thing: could you give me at least one example for the grammar issues of this article? It is not your job, I know, but it would help me on the future. I will then try to fix the rest of them. Kreivi Wolter 22:20, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) **I would rather give you the main problems I see, which are apostrophe usage and verb conjugation.  CC7567  (talk) 01:06, December 13, 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) Fett
 * 5) * "Voyla believes that Artruk wouldn't notice them when his occupied by the treasures marched before him." Please read this sentence, and try to find out what's wrong with it. Improper English.
 * 6) **Better now? Kreivi Wolter 11:15, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) * "He thinks that the Magistrate is yet another greedy outlander who's come to steal the treasures of Ryloth and wants to "teach him a lesson", but the other Twi'lek notes that Argente is bringing items to Lessu, not taking from it." Please identify these Twi'leks, as it is quite confusing to the reader. Also, in the future, please place your punctuation before quotation marks. Also note that I fixed a grammatical error that I caught while I was giving this article a copyedit. It's "whose" not "who's". "who is come" doesn't work here.
 * 8) **I though that Syndulla and TA-175 shouldn't be named in Plot summary, as this is their first appearance, and both are unnamed in the story. But noted nonetheless. Thanks for the help. Kreivi Wolter 11:15, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) * "Suddenly he notice that the irregular outlander is flanked by two battle droids." Again, you should identify "he". Are you talking about Cham or someone else?
 * 10) **Roger roger. Kreivi Wolter 11:15, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) *More to come. Also, I will look at my objections in your other nom soon.  JangFett  (Talk) 21:19, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

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Mudgub

 * Nominated by: ~ SavageBob 19:05, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Quickie species nom. ~ SavageBob 19:05, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

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 * 1) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 04:26, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) --Eyrezer 22:42, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

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 * As with the Titterbug princess, can we get a second image that shows some scale? --Eyrezer 07:14, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * It ain't pretty, but I did my best. ~ SavageBob 04:13, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Khar Shian

 * Nominated by:  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 04:23, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: My first ever moon nom. A milestone!

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 * 1) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 09:36, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2)  Nayayen ... TALK  09:00, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Just one thing in the intro: "This maneuver, coupled with some other trickery by Sadow, resulted in..." sounds rather unencyclopedic, can you reword this?  Nayayen ... TALK  19:47, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) *Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 01:20, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

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Ronika

 * Nominated by:  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 03:28, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Yeppidy-doo.

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 * 1) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 03:25, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Soresu
 * 2) * which caused Ronika to red from orbit. Missing a word or two, no?
 * 3) **Whoops. Addressed.
 * 4) *That's it for me. I'm liking these new noms, they're much improved IMO. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 11:04, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) **Thanks for the review.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 01:18, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) *** :) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 03:25, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

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Shadow Runner

 * Nominated by:  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 01:20, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Ees more Floyd, no?

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 * 1)  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 17:32, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 03:11, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

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 * I'm willing to bet that the new FAN limit rule is a cabalistic and malevolent attempt to make prolific writers move to the GAN page, flooding us with too many noms for us to handle, and thus making them seem superior :P. It looks like you've already started doing it. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 03:30, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not at liberty to discuss this matter. :P  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 04:07, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Skirmish on Alaris Prime

 * Nominated by: Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 21:42, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: New Sith Wars battle mentioned in Dynasty of Evil

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 * 1) You are going to have the longest userpage in the site before long, with all those User GA templates :P Nice work. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 02:17, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2)  Grunny  ( Talk ) 06:21, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) A minor one, but can you see if you can mix up one or two of the instances of "during," particularly in the Prelude section? The word is a bit over used :P. Other than that excellent work as always :).  Grunny  ( Talk ) 09:36, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) *Addressed; thanks for the review :) Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 15:30, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

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Battle of Bothawui (First; Great Galactic War)

 * Nominated by: Darth Trayus  Sith_Emblem.svg ( Trayus Academy ) 19:50, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Read the first, then go for the second!

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 * 1) Jedi Kasra (comlink) 04:41, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2)  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 05:42, December 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 01:35, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Just one: if the title is conjectural, then it should not be bolded in the intro. However, if the battle is actually named the "Battle of Bothawui", then it has an official name. I think that moving the page to give it a different name that identifies it as "Battle of Bothawui " would be more appropriate, and the conjecture tag could then be removed.  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 02:28, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) *I'm all for that, but before I move it, how would you suggest I indicate the difference between the two in the parenthetical notation? Would this be Battle of Bothawui (First; Great Galactic War) and the other be at Battle of Bothawui (Second; Great Galactic War)? Any suggestions? Darth Trayus  Sith_Emblem.svg ( Trayus Academy ) 07:56, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) **Hmm, well, I can't think of anything else, so unless anyone else has any better ideas, that sounds fine to me. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 16:59, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) ***Okay, both have been moved. Darth Trayus  Sith_Emblem.svg ( Trayus Academy ) 22:14, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) Soresu
 * 6) * the Sith Empire was widely successful in all of its campaigns, particularly in the Outer Rim Territories. All of its campaigns up to that point were in the Outer Rim. A little redundant.
 * 7) * Casualties section in the infobox for the Republic should be "unknown", otherwise it seems like they took no losses. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 11:04, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) **Just a quick note: words like "unknown" and "unidentified" are usually avoided in IU articles, precedent is to just leave a section blank if it is unknown. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 14:46, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) **The first is taken care of, and I concur with Jon on the second. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 20:11, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) ***I am aware that we avoid using those words, but I thought I saw a number of GAs with unknown in the casualties. Checking through a few battle articles, it appears I was wrong. My mistake. Although I do believe that in these infobox things, leaving it blank could imply that they took no casaulties. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 01:35, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * If this only appear to date is only in one source, then shouldn't the First mentioned be changed as Mentioned only? Kreivi Wolter 23:03, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * It should be neither. What it is now is correct. Darth Trayus  Sith_Emblem.svg ( Trayus Academy ) 00:39, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Life Day

 * Nominated by:  Darth Karika Answering Machine 17:15, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Today is Life Day as well.

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 * Before nominating something for GA status, actual work needs to be done to the article. Performing a few minor grammatical fixes and then placing a GAnom tag on the article does not count. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 20:13, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * Additionally, you cannot remove a nom by yourself. If you want it removed, you need to ask a member of the AgriCorps. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 01:06, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Zellos

 * Nominated by: Darth Trayus  Sith_Emblem.svg ( Trayus Academy ) 09:43, December 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:

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 * 1) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 09:46, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) After the Imperial capture of the Seswenna sector, the Emperor turned his sights towards the Mid Rim. Is the capture of Seswenna so important that it should be mentioned in the article? -- Xd1358  Talk 09:52, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

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Jin-Lo Rayce

 * Nominated by: Jedi Kasra (comlink) 05:33, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Has been mentioned only in passing, but established a Force-using organization during the Dark Times, hmmm&hellip;

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 * 1) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 09:57, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Dangerdan97 19:21, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

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 * Guest nom for WP:TFU.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 19:19, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Zeta Five

 * Nominated by:  IFYLOFD  ( Floyd's crib ) 05:51, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: My final nom from Golden Age of the Sith/Fall of the Sith Empire. I never thought this day would come... *sniff*

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 * 1) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 10:06, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

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Siene Symm

 * Nominated by: Skippy Farlstendoiro 10:50, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Go, Nien Nunb-lookalike from 1988!

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 * 1) --Jawaman No, I did NOT steal your droid! 15:51, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

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Eodon

 * Nominated by: ~ SavageBob 18:24, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: The only species who hate going to the dentist more than you do. ~ SavageBob 18:24, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

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 * 1) Soresu
 * 2) *Missing an infobox ref
 * 3) *There seems to be a slight contradiction between the intro and history. The intro makes it seem as if the Ewoks won the tusks and gave them back, while the body makes it seem as the Eodon came in before the ewoks obtained the tusk, and took it back for himself.
 * 4) *Maybe mention their similarity to elephants and the parallels with the demand for their tusks? SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 10:27, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

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Modon Kira

 * Nominated by:  IFYLOFD  ( Floyd's crib ) 06:31, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: A badass.

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 * 1) Blacklist:
 * 2) *Missing sources.
 * 3) **I'm not sure which ones are missing... help me out here?
 * 4) *Missing info from the audio drama.
 * 5) **Modon Kira neither appears or is mentioned in the audio drama.
 * 6) *This can can use a thorough copyedit.
 * 7) **Addressed.
 * 8) *The intro reads a little unwieldy. You may want to rework some of it, preferably the pipelinking. —Tommy9281 Dark side Master SWGTCG.jpg ( No truth in me ) 07:05, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) **What do you mean by pipelinking?

Comments
 * You crank these TOTJ noms out far too quickly without making sure all the bases are covered. Don't sacrifice quality for quantity. —Tommy9281 Dark side Master SWGTCG.jpg ( No truth in me ) 07:05, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry. This is my first article from this period of TOTJ, and its must less straightforward than the noms from Golden Age of the Sith or Fall of the Sith Empire. Some problems are to be expected, I guess.  IFYLOFD  ( Floyd's crib ) 05:55, January 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Wishing everyone a happy new year! :D SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 13:07, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. :)  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 01:37, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Gizor Dellso

 * Nominated by:  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 01:37, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Meesa back! And boy, video game characters are more complicated than they appear. :P

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 * 1) Xd
 * 2) *Context on the 501st in the intro.
 * 3) *Context on Mustafar in the intro and the body.
 * 4) *-- Xd1358  Talk 15:06, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) **The requirement for both of these is debatable. We can normally assume that the reader is familiar, at the very least, with the films and their canon elements.  CC7567  (talk) 20:06, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) ***Well, I was wanting something like "The Elite Imperial 501st..." or just Imperial. -- Xd1358  Talk 20:08, January 1, 2010 (UTC)