Wookieepedia:AC/Log 2019 May 25

May 25 15:01:21  Ok, welcome all to AC Meeting 116 May 25 15:06:38  Beginning with probed articles from meetings past May 25 15:06:45  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Braha%27tok May 25 15:06:50  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Braha%27tok May 25 15:06:57  No change May 25 15:07:00  Kill May 25 15:07:01  kill May 25 15:07:03 Kill May 25 15:07:03  Kill May 25 15:07:03  kill May 25 15:07:18  kill May 25 15:07:32  We're gonna have a lot of AL-BRT cameos :P May 25 15:07:32 kill May 25 15:07:48  I'm going to keep this meeting moving pretty rapidly, so no hard feelings if I move on before someone gets their votes in May 25 15:07:53  We only need 4 to kill something May 25 15:07:55  Braha'tok killed May 25 15:07:58  good haha May 25 15:07:59  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Laudable May 25 15:08:03 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Laudable May 25 15:08:09 <Toprawa> No change May 25 15:08:11 <Tommy-Macaroni> kill May 25 15:08:12 Kill May 25 15:08:12 <MasterFred> kill May 25 15:08:12 <Toprawa> Kill May 25 15:08:15 <Imperators> kill May 25 15:08:18 kill May 25 15:08:23 <Toprawa> Laudable killed May 25 15:08:24 <Imperators> more like, Laughable May 25 15:08:30 <Toprawa> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Mag_(clone_trooper) May 25 15:08:30 <Tommy-Macaroni> gottem May 25 15:09:18 <Ayrehead02> This is a no change as well right? May 25 15:09:34 * Ralltiir (~Toprawa@wookieepedia/bureaucrat/Toprawa) has joined May 25 15:09:34 * ChanServ gives channel operator status to Ralltiir May 25 15:09:39 <Ralltiir> Sorry, fucking internet May 25 15:09:41 <Ralltiir> No change on Mag May 25 15:09:44 <Tommy-Macaroni> kill May 25 15:09:49 <Ralltiir> Kill May 25 15:09:50 <MasterFred> kill May 25 15:09:52 kill May 25 15:09:52 <Ayrehead02> Kill May 25 15:09:55 kill May 25 15:09:57 <Imperators> the Internet connection always senses a meeting May 25 15:09:58 <Imperators> kill May 25 15:10:01 <MasterFred> I assumed it was MY internet. haha May 25 15:10:01 <Ralltiir> Always May 25 15:10:02 <Ralltiir> Mag (clone trooper) killed May 25 15:10:10 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Ares_Nune May 25 15:10:13 <Tommy-Macaroni> I think we all did :P May 25 15:10:15 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Ares_Nune May 25 15:10:22 <Ralltiir> No change May 25 15:10:24 <Tommy-Macaroni> kill May 25 15:10:25 <Ayrehead02> Kill May 25 15:10:28 <Ralltiir> Kill May 25 15:10:28 <MasterFred> kill May 25 15:10:30 kill May 25 15:10:33 <Imperators> kill May 25 15:10:38 <Ralltiir> Ares Nune killed May 25 15:10:44 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Bormus_testing_facility May 25 15:10:49 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Bormus_testing_facility May 25 15:10:54 <Ralltiir> No change May 25 15:10:57 <Ayrehead02> Kill May 25 15:10:58 <Tommy-Macaroni> kill May 25 15:11:01 <MasterFred> kill May 25 15:11:04 <Ralltiir> Kill May 25 15:11:05 <Imperators> sigh, astrokill May 25 15:11:09 kill May 25 15:11:15 <Ralltiir> Bormus testing facility killed May 25 15:11:18 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Eminence_(Carrack-class) May 25 15:11:22 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Eminence_(Carrack-class) May 25 15:11:23 <Ralltiir> No change May 25 15:11:25 <Tommy-Macaroni> kill May 25 15:11:27 <Ayrehead02> Kill May 25 15:11:29 kill May 25 15:11:31 <Ralltiir> Kill May 25 15:11:31 <MasterFred> kill May 25 15:11:36 kill May 25 15:11:39 <Imperators> kill Eminem (Carrack-class) May 25 15:11:44 <Ralltiir> Eminence (Carrack-class) killed May 25 15:11:47 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Jollin_Resbin May 25 15:11:50 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Jollin_Resbin May 25 15:11:53 <Ralltiir> No change May 25 15:11:55 <MasterFred> kill May 25 15:11:56 <Tommy-Macaroni> kill May 25 15:11:57 <Ayrehead02> Kill May 25 15:12:00 <Imperators> kill May 25 15:12:01 kill May 25 15:12:04 <Ralltiir> Kill May 25 15:12:09 <Ralltiir> Jollin Resbin killed May 25 15:12:12 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Conqueror-class_atmospheric_dreadnaught May 25 15:12:16 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Conqueror-class_atmospheric_dreadnaught May 25 15:12:19 <Ralltiir> No change May 25 15:12:21 <MasterFred> kill May 25 15:12:24 kill May 25 15:12:24 <Imperators> kill May 25 15:12:28 <Tommy-Macaroni> kill May 25 15:12:28 <Ralltiir> Kill May 25 15:12:28 <Ayrehead02> Kill May 25 15:12:39 <Ralltiir> Conqueror-class atmospheric dreadnaught killed May 25 15:12:42 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Brassbound May 25 15:12:45 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Brassbound May 25 15:12:48 <Ralltiir> No change May 25 15:12:51 <Tommy-Macaroni> kill May 25 15:12:53 <Ayrehead02> Kill May 25 15:12:53 <Imperators> kill May 25 15:12:57 <MasterFred> kill May 25 15:12:57 <Ralltiir> Kill May 25 15:12:58 kill May 25 15:13:06 * Toprawa has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) May 25 15:13:08 <Ralltiir> Brassbound killed May 25 15:13:11 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/DC-19_%22Stealth%22_carbine May 25 15:13:15 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/DC-19_%22Stealth%22_carbine May 25 15:13:16 <Ralltiir> No change May 25 15:13:18 <MasterFred> kill May 25 15:13:18 <Tommy-Macaroni> kill May 25 15:13:19 kill May 25 15:13:19 <Ralltiir> Kill May 25 15:13:20 kill May 25 15:13:20 <Ayrehead02> Kill May 25 15:13:23 <Imperators> stealthily kill May 25 15:13:27 <Ralltiir> DC-19 "Stealth" carbine killed May 25 15:13:30 <Ralltiir> Moving on to new articles May 25 15:13:37 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Cobb_Sonbepol May 25 15:13:41 <Ralltiir> Turns out that the original article for this covered two characters, Cobb and Hennet Kayn, the latter of whom was only discovered to be a separate character at this years Celebration. I've separated the article out properly, but given the large amount of change this might need a Redux. Ayrehead02 (talk) 08:01, May 15, 2019 (UTC) May 25 15:13:57 <Ralltiir> Who are we to deny someone the honor of Redux? :P May 25 15:13:59 kill-- er May 25 15:14:03 <Tommy-Macaroni> Redux May 25 15:14:07 <Ralltiir> Redux May 25 15:14:08 redux May 25 15:14:09 <MasterFred> redux haha May 25 15:14:13 <Ayrehead02> Redux May 25 15:14:14 redux May 25 15:14:16 <Imperators> Redux May 25 15:14:20 <Ralltiir> Cobb Sonbepol Reduxed May 25 15:14:25 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/First_Battle_of_Ord_Biniir May 25 15:14:31 <Ralltiir> Infobox: May 25 15:14:31 <Ralltiir> The Battle of Aargonar in the Next field is not directly attributable, as evidenced by its unrelated source referencing May 25 15:14:31 <Ralltiir> The "about six starfighter squadrons" bit is just speculation, I think. I'd like someone to demonstrate why this is accurate exactly. May 25 15:14:31 <Ralltiir> Bulletpoint formatting needs to be fixed May 25 15:14:32 <Ralltiir> Under-linking May 25 15:14:34 <Ralltiir> Light casualties is infobox-exclusive May 25 15:14:36 <Ralltiir> None of the BBY/ABY dates are referenced correctly May 25 15:14:38 <Ralltiir> "However, the 233rd's The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia entry states that the 233rd was a fighter group, made of about three squadrons." The italicized portion of this sentence is simply incorrect; CSWE does not state this. May 25 15:14:42 <Ralltiir> BTS is not fully sourced May 25 15:14:46 <Ralltiir> Ref 5 needs to use CSWECite May 25 15:14:48 <Ralltiir> "(as Battle of Ord Biniir)" in Sources list is unnecessary. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:38, May 22, 2019 (UTC) May 25 15:15:12 <Imperators> "Light casualties" is not what an AC meeting leaves behind May 25 15:15:12 <MasterFred> ouch... May 25 15:15:13 <Imperators> probe May 25 15:15:19 <Ralltiir> Probe May 25 15:15:19 <MasterFred> probe May 25 15:15:22 probe May 25 15:15:23 <Tommy-Macaroni> probe May 25 15:15:24 <Ayrehead02> Probe May 25 15:15:33 <Ralltiir> First Battle of Ord Biniir probed May 25 15:15:36 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Knuckles_of_the_katarn May 25 15:15:40 <Ralltiir> "Unidentified" in the infobox is OOU nomenclature and should be avoided May 25 15:15:40 <Ralltiir> BTS is not sourced. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:38, May 22, 2019 (UTC) May 25 15:15:56 <Imperators> porg May 25 15:15:59 probe May 25 15:16:01 <Ralltiir> That isn't just a slap-a-ref-on-it fix either for the BTS May 25 15:16:01 <Imperators> probe May 25 15:16:03 <Tommy-Macaroni> probe May 25 15:16:04 <Ralltiir> That needs to ref the shutdown date May 25 15:16:05 <Ayrehead02> Probe May 25 15:16:06 <Ralltiir> Probe May 25 15:16:07 <MasterFred> probe May 25 15:16:08 probe May 25 15:16:13 <Ralltiir> Knuckles of the katarn probed May 25 15:16:21 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Order_65 May 25 15:16:26 <Ralltiir> Neither of the BBY dates are referenced correctly May 25 15:16:26 <Ralltiir> BTS unsourced. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:38, May 22, 2019 (UTC) May 25 15:16:45 <Ralltiir> Redirect too May 25 15:16:54 <MasterFred> ^ May 25 15:16:55 <Imperators> probe May 25 15:16:56 probe May 25 15:16:57 <MasterFred> probe May 25 15:16:58 probe May 25 15:16:59 <Tommy-Macaroni> rpobe May 25 15:16:59 <Ralltiir> Fix Insider italics formatting in BTS May 25 15:17:00 <Ralltiir> Probe May 25 15:17:02 <Ayrehead02> Probe May 25 15:17:06 <Ralltiir> Order 65 probed May 25 15:17:12 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Kivvaaa May 25 15:17:18 <Ralltiir> We can see her eye color, which isn't detailed in the article May 25 15:17:19 <Ralltiir> An Equipment section could detail her cybernetic arm, shoulder pauldron, bandolier, and utility belt. May 25 15:17:22 <Ralltiir> BTS unsourced. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:38, May 22, 2019 (UTC) May 25 15:17:33 <Imperators> probe May 25 15:17:35 <Ralltiir> Probe May 25 15:17:38 <Ayrehead02> Probe May 25 15:17:39 probe May 25 15:17:41 <MasterFred> probe May 25 15:17:42 <Tommy-Macaroni> prove May 25 15:17:42 <Imperators> poor Tope, having to quote himself May 25 15:17:45 <Tommy-Macaroni> *probe May 25 15:17:46 probe May 25 15:17:48 <Ralltiir> Kivvaaa probed May 25 15:17:53 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Field_Achievement_Award May 25 15:17:57 <Ralltiir> "Notable" is OOU nomenclature and should be avoided unless the source explicitly calls someone or something notable. The article would do better to just rename that section "History" May 25 15:17:57 <Ralltiir> BTS is unsourced May 25 15:17:57 <Ralltiir> Short stories should be formatted correctly in BTS May 25 15:17:57 <Ralltiir> If "Do No Harm" is reprinted in Tales from the Empire, that should be listed in the Appearances as well. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:38, May 22, 2019 (UTC) May 25 15:18:11 <Tommy-Macaroni> probe May 25 15:18:14 <Ralltiir> Probe May 25 15:18:18 <Imperators> probe May 25 15:18:20 <Ayrehead02> Probe May 25 15:18:22 probe May 25 15:18:22 <MasterFred> probe May 25 15:18:22 probe May 25 15:18:24 <Ralltiir> Field Achievement Award probed May 25 15:18:28 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Second_Battle_of_Ord_Biniir May 25 15:18:36 <Ralltiir> Infobox: May 25 15:18:36 <Ralltiir> The Sarapin and Aargonar battles in the Concurrent field are not directly attributable to this battle, as evidenced by their unrelated source referencing May 25 15:18:36 <Ralltiir> Light Imperial casualties is infobox-exclusive May 25 15:18:36 <Ralltiir> Neither of the ABY dates are referenced correctly. For that matter, I'd like confirmation that this battle truly takes place in 0 ABY and not 0 BBY. It takes place the same day as the Battle of Yavin, which means it could very well be before that battle took place, no? May 25 15:18:37 <Ralltiir> Are there no other images to be used for the article body? May 25 15:18:39 <Ralltiir> BTS: May 25 15:18:41 <Ralltiir> Unsourced May 25 15:18:43 <Ralltiir> Comic author, illustrator, publisher, and release date would be nice. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:38, May 22, 2019 (UTC) May 25 15:18:46 <Imperators> probe May 25 15:18:49 <Ralltiir> Probe May 25 15:18:49 <Tommy-Macaroni> probe May 25 15:18:50 <Ayrehead02> Probe May 25 15:19:00 probe May 25 15:19:03 <MasterFred> probe May 25 15:19:05 <Tommy-Macaroni> Idk why but I passionately hate the medal infobox May 25 15:19:06 probe May 25 15:19:09 <Ralltiir> Second Battle of Ord Biniir probed May 25 15:19:12 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Strategic_Resources_of_the_Galaxy May 25 15:19:17 <Ralltiir> BTS unsourced. May 25 15:19:19 <Ralltiir> Publication date for story would be nice. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:38, May 22, 2019 (UTC) May 25 15:19:26 <Tommy-Macaroni> probe May 25 15:19:27 <Ayrehead02> Probe May 25 15:19:29 <Ralltiir> Probe May 25 15:19:30 probe May 25 15:19:32 <Imperators> probe May 25 15:19:33 probe May 25 15:19:38 <MasterFred> probe May 25 15:19:39 <Ralltiir> Strategic Resources of the Galaxy probed May 25 15:19:43 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Order_5 May 25 15:19:49 <Ralltiir> Redirects May 25 15:19:49 <Ralltiir> 19 BBY date is not referenced correctly May 25 15:19:49 <Ralltiir> BTS: May 25 15:19:49 <Ralltiir> unsourced May 25 15:19:49 <Ralltiir> Full publication dates for novels are unnecessary May 25 15:19:49 <Ralltiir> The second sentence should just be removed. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:38, May 22, 2019 (UTC) May 25 15:19:56 <Tommy-Macaroni> probe May 25 15:19:57 <Ayrehead02> Probe May 25 15:20:00 <Ralltiir> Probe May 25 15:20:01 <MasterFred> probe May 25 15:20:06 probe May 25 15:20:07 probe May 25 15:20:16 <Imperators> probe May 25 15:20:18 <Ralltiir> Order 5 probed May 25 15:20:20 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Dornean_Braha%27ket_Fleetworks_Conglomerate/Legends May 25 15:20:25 <Ralltiir> In the "Products" section, the final sentence beginning "In 4 ABY..." is completely irrelevant to that section, and all but irrelevant to this article. The Conglomerate didn't wage this war or fight in that battle. The details of their products being used in the Galactic Civil War is already covered in the History section, so I believe this sentence should just be removed. May 25 15:20:26 <Ralltiir> In addition to the preceding objection, I feel like the two sentences detailing all of the gunship's specs is just irrelevant and extraneous as well. If you want to briefly mention its main armaments or something, that would be one thing, but all of this detail really doesn't belong here. May 25 15:20:30 <Ralltiir> The bigger issue here, then, is that this article sits at 255 words by my count. The removal or reduction of these details will certainly bring the article irrevocably below the 250-word threshold for GAs. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:38, May 22, 2019 (UTC) May 25 15:20:50 <Tommy-Macaroni> probe May 25 15:20:53 <Imperators> probe May 25 15:20:53 <Ayrehead02> Probe May 25 15:20:56 <Ralltiir> Probe May 25 15:20:58 <MasterFred> probe May 25 15:21:16 probe May 25 15:21:18 probe May 25 15:21:19 <Ralltiir> Dornean Braha'ket Fleetworks Conglomerate May 25 15:21:26 <Ralltiir> https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Ingoda May 25 15:21:30 <Ralltiir> The two sentences in the intro and Bio about "Ingoda, also known as Ingoda the Hutt" are just unnecessary. Rewrite those as just "Ingoda was a Hutt crime lord" or "Ingoda the Hutt was a crime lord" May 25 15:21:31 <Ralltiir> BTS: May 25 15:21:31 <Ralltiir> Publication date for "What's the Story" would be nice May 25 15:21:31 <Ralltiir> Last sentence about CSWE should just be removed May 25 15:21:32 <Ralltiir> Format SW.com Databank names correctly May 25 15:21:34 <Ralltiir> Is there really nothing to be said from the Darth Plagueis mention? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:38, May 22, 2019 (UTC) May 25 15:21:43 <Ayrehead02> Probe May 25 15:21:45 <Ralltiir> Probe May 25 15:21:49 <Tommy-Macaroni> probe May 25 15:21:51 <MasterFred> probe May 25 15:21:54 probe May 25 15:21:54 <Imperators> probe May 25 15:21:55 probe May 25 15:21:55 <Ralltiir> Ingoda probed May 25 15:22:00 <Ralltiir> That's all for those May 25 15:22:02 <Ralltiir> Nothing else is in the Bin May 25 15:22:08 <Ralltiir> Anyone else have any articles? May 25 15:22:12 <Tommy-Macaroni> Nothing from me May 25 15:22:13 <MasterFred> negatory May 25 15:22:15 <Ayrehead02> Nope May 25 15:22:27 I don't. May 25 15:22:28 <Ralltiir> Ok, checking meeting duties May 25 15:22:34 <Imperators> I have paperwork May 25 15:22:43 <Ralltiir> Imperators does paperwork indeed May 25 15:22:48 <Ralltiir> ecks schedules Meeting 117 May 25 15:22:52 ah fuck May 25 15:22:56 <MasterFred> Off the hook! :D May 25 15:22:56 <Imperators> oooh, an ecksmeet May 25 15:23:02 <Ralltiir> Great to see 100% attendance today. Thanks for coming, everyone. May 25 15:23:07 <Ralltiir> Hope to see you all at the Mofference later May 25 15:23:09 Thanks for hosting. May 25 15:23:11 <Tommy-Macaroni> Cool. Thanks for hosting May 25 15:23:13 <Imperators> well, that was efficient. Thanks, Tope. May 25 15:23:14 <Ayrehead02> Thanks Tope May 25 15:23:17 <Ralltiir> No problem May 25 15:23:22 <MasterFred> Thanks for hosting.