Talk:Executor/Legends

How do you pronounce it: ig-ZEK-yuh-ter or EK-si-kyoo-ter?

The first oneOmegatron9 14:29, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

The "proton torpedo" claim in the previous edit
I noted this in the archives:- the claim that A-Wing's used proton torpedoes on Executor because of the novelization is simply wrong. The novelization's account of Executor's demise has nothing to do with the movie:-

"'Firing proton torpedoes,' Green Wing advised. The bridge was hit, with kaleidoscopic results. A rapid chain reaciton got set off, from power station to power station along the middle third of the huge destroyer, producing a dazzling rainbow of explosions that buckled the ship at right angles, and started it spinning like a pinwheel toward the Death Star."

This never happened in the movie. The novel doesn't even note that it was Arvel who killed the Executor, instead it thinks a proton torpedo salvo did it. The novel's description is entirely contradicted - fighters never attacked the bridge itself with any warheads of any type, nor did any of that happen when we saw the A-Wings strafe the globe. Accordingly I've edited the article. In addition I've made some changes to take into account Starships of the Galaxy Saga Edition and the Star Wars Complete Locations. The shields were already down when the A-Wings attacked the globes. Vymer 10:20, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * And your edit had been reverted. Executor recently passed our Featured Article review. As such, it is a comprehensive article including information from all reliable and official sources. Just because the event was not shown in the film does not mean it did not happen. The events from the novelisation are valid information, and were added to the article. - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 10:23, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

The novelization's account of Executor's death is mutually exclusive from that of the movie. In the novel the Executor dies to proton torpedoes, in the movie it dies from being rammed in the bridge. There was no chain reaction of explosions from a proton torpedo attack. It could not have happened, period- what, are you saying offscreen, before or after what happened in the movie, the events in the novel happened? Whilst it was already on its death ride? Or before that, and it was an entirely different Executor that crashed into the Death Star 2 due to the A-Wing in the bridge? Help me out here. Simply because a source is official doesn't mean it is correct or that it is not obviously overriden by something else. This is a lot like saying Luke's squadron at Yavin was both Blue and Red Squadron because the novel says Blue Squadron. Vymer 10:25, January 20, 2010 (UTC) And another point - it smacks of ignoring context to claim that the A-Wings used proton torpedoes against the domes when the novel isn't even talking about that, its talking about Executor being destroyed by a direct attack. Its just a bizarre thing to include in the article - take something in the novel that never happened in the movie, then pretend its talking about something that did happen in the movie, in a completely different way? Errr - what? No. Its flat wrong. Vymer 10:41, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

So does anyone have a reasonable argument for how this claim about proton torpedoes against the globes can be correct, apart from distorting the context of a passage from the novelization that doesn't match the scene in the movie in any way? Indeed, I didn't revert the article after my own edits were reverted, and all thats seemed to happen is the protection level was increased to 'protect' it from 'fleet junkie-obsessed edit warring' - a better way to prevent such edit warring would be offering reasonable arguments that make sense in light of the evidence. Vymer 04:30, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

The theft of Vader's helmet
I know this SWM mission is highly improbable, but doesn't really contradicting. It may be part of an assassination project, before Hoth. Have some official source stated this is non-canon? If not, we don't have the right to say so. There are sillier EU thing that are canon. Darth Morrt 13:09, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Length
Just an observation this page lists the length of The Executor to be 19,000 meters, when in fact it should be closer to 9,500 meters because the length of the Eclipse is listed as 17,000 meters. The Eclipse is a far larger ship and would therefore have the larger dimensions. Please fix if possible thank you.
 * The length is correct. Current Canon sources state that is is 19,000 meters. - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 08:38, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Missing appearances
The appearances list is missing two children's items: Neither contains any new info. I would have added these myself, but the article is currently Inuse. Interestingly, neither of the Return of the Jedi versions mention or depict the Executor at all.  Master Jonathan  ( Jedi Council Chambers ) 18:01, December 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Classic Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back book-and-record &mdash; the interior of the Executor is Po; the text misidentifies the ship as the Avenger.
 * Classic Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (Random House) &mdash; appears but is identified only as Vader's command ship.

Perfect Evil
Perfect Evil is published as Infinities in the UK. Would that make all the Perfect Evil info instead belong to a BTS non-canon section? Hanzo Hasashi 02:39, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

ROTJ Canon Conflict
Under the heading "Protecting the Death Star construction site", it states that Vader flew in the Executor to Endor. Not sure which novel(s) they cite, but in any possible instance this is directly overridden by all three (four?) versions of the movie, based on official Lucasfilm canon policy: the movie clearly shows the ship that brought Vader to Endor was an Imperial-class Star Destroyer, and the movie overrides print materials in canon conflicts. StarSword 05:03, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * There is no canon conflict here. Vader travels to Endor from Coruscant aboard the Executor, as established in the Shadows of the Empire 6 comic issue and later supported by the story The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader. We do see his shuttle departing from a regular Imperial Star Destroyer in the film when he first boards the Death Star, but that doesn't mean we're seeing him as he's first arriving in-system. For all we know, he could have departed from the Executor first in his shuttle and made a pit stop aboard that ISD to conduct official business before proceeding on to the Death Star. Obviously there's a lack of explanation there, but it doesn't necessarily equate to an inconsistency. The article has purposely left that part vague because the circumstances have never been clarified in canon. Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:12, August 5, 2011 (UTC)