Talk:Executor (Imperial rank)

Although I haven't read any NJO, I understand that the Vong also had a position of Executor. Maybe someone more knowledgable than I could mention it here? Kuralyov 00:23, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Um, what exactly are the sources for this article? For all I know, it's entirely legit, but at the very least, a list of sources might appease the paranoia of Ewoks like myself? Thanks! -McEwok 22:18, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Title name
Dark Empire II and Empire's End lead me to believe that while the person holding the rank was refered to as "Executor Johnson", the office itself was the "Military Executor". Thoughts? --SparqMan 03:34, 14 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, if "Military Executor" is the office, then we should add this to the article. Or, we could move this to Military Executor. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 20:26, 14 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Post and Powers
It seems as though Executor was a not quite an official position but more a personal appointment made by Palpatine to "reward" his close friend and apprentice Vader. I realize the article already states this, but it seems that the person named 'Executor' was the de facto second-in-command of the Galactic Empire as well as the de facto commander-in-chief of the Imperial military, while the official person second to the Emperor might have been the Grand Vizier, Sate Pestage, or someone else. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Executor is most probably not an official magistrate position within the government of the Galactic Empire. This post may also coincide with the powers of 'Supreme Commander of Imperial forces', which might be why Luke Skywalker was called "Supreme Commander" in the Dark Empire comic-book series. Thoughts?--SOCL 20:47, 18 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, as for this title, whether it was an official military position (since three people held it) or just a rewarded position for Palpatine's leading right hand men (Vader, then Sedriss and Nist) is unsure. SOCL here brings up many good points here. As discussed on the Supreme Commander of the Imperial Fleet talk page, it appears that the Galactic Empire's "Executor" position is in fact a very similar (if not the same) position equivalent to that of the Remnant's Supreme Commander of the Imperial Fleet position. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 23:08, 18 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Right. It's possible that under the Palpatine-era regime the posts of Executor and Supreme Commander of the Imperial Fleet existed at the same time, tiered so as to put Executor above the other.  But as we know, after Daala took command of the Empire and its forces, she effectively became Executor and Empress (holding those powers), but under the title of Supreme Commander of the Imperial Fleet.  Pellaeon would come to have these same powers, but relinquished many of them somewhere between Darksaber and Specter of the Past, probably to bolster the image that he was a legitmate commander and not a warlord while still retaining enough power to correct any situations.  In some ways, one could say that the post of Supreme Commander of the Imperial Fleet under Daala and Pellaeon are the descendants of the post of Executor but with the same name of a lesser position from much earlier on.  Even so, I don't think it's right to say that anyone whose Supreme Commander of the Imperial Fleet is also Executor and vice versa despite the fact a case can be made concerning Daala and Pellaeon...--SOCL 23:24, 18 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree. It does seem that the post-Palpatine Empire position of "Supreme Commander of the Imperial Fleet" not only had the power of the position of the same name in the Palpatine reign, but it also had more of the leadership powers of that of the Executor position. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 23:26, 18 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Still waiting for proof
Still no answer to my question of 11th September 2005, so I've thrown up a banner in the hope of encouraging one. We know about the two Executors who appear in turn after Luke ceases to be Supreme Commander, and I'm sure there's some sort of canon evidence that Vader held the post; but I'm still waiting to know what the source is for the specific statements about Vader's use of the rank, and the claim that the Star Destroyer Executor took its name from the position:

'''The original and most well-known Executor was Darth Vader, who served from the Empire's formation in 19 BBY until both his and Palpatine's deaths at the Battle of Endor in 4 ABY. It was from Vader's position that his flagship, the Executor, got its name.'''

Thanks! --McEwok 17:10, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, "the claim that the Star Destroyer Executor took its name from the position" would be pretty obvious if Vader held the title. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:06, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Would it? The Imperator doesn't take its name from Palpatine's position. The name Executor could be a traditional one for warships, comparable with Exactor and Executrix. --McEwok 15:13, 17 April 2006 (UTC)