Talk:Legacy of the Force: Revelation

The impossible has happened
This is, by far, the absolute worst cover art ever. No questions asked, accept no seconds. Kuralyov 04:04, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I wish we could see the ships fighting in the background. Guess that black one's the Anakin Solo. VT-16 12:16, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree, this cover art looks terrible. Jacen looks like some teenaged emo kid, not a man in his 30s. And his face looks mushy to boot. And where's the beard? Etc. OH I GET IT. He turned into Crispin Glover! -Israi 17:02, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Eh....whatever. Karen Traviss will make up for this horrible cover art. Can't judge a book by its cover. Darthchristian   ( Hey! ) 23:31, 14 August 2007
 * Exactly. No matter how bad the cover is, the text inside will be so horrible that it will seem like the Mona Lisa by comparison.
 * I actually kind of like it. With regards to Jacen, I think he looks weird because the decaying effects of the Dark Side that caused Palpatine to look like he did are starting to take hold.  For example, I noticed he now has nice yellow eyes.  I can't wait for the next book. 129.237.40.74 16:50, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, that clearly explains why he looks like a very ill 13-year-old. Maybe we should just refer Jacen to the Miracle Network. -Israi 05:50, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I think Jacen should have been put on the cover of Invincible rather than Revelation, because who are they going to put on the cover of Invincible? Can't wait to see Invincible's cover. Liberi Fatali37 02:18, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

He defonilty looks different from the cover of Betrayal and thats the important thing because the authors are putting different people on the covers, and thats not jacen Solo, thats Darth Caedus.
 * Maybe you missed the part where Darth Caedus and Jacen Solo are the same person. Israi 18:07, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

really i never knew that. no duh, but anakin and darth vader werent the same either, just like Jacen and Caedus, thats wat i meant. cuz like with all sith wen u get a new name, ur kind of like a new person and thats y there putting caedus on the cover, 2 show that hes not good boy, brave jedi Jacen Solo any more but that hes Dark Lord of the Sith, or maybe u missed that part.
 * Are you thick? Darth Caedus and Jacen are the same individual. Jacen did not instantly morph into someone else as a result of his 'fall.' The fall to the Dark Side is a slow thing, and the fact that Jacen gets a new name, or Anakin, or whoever, does not make them a different person... it is the culmination of events that take place over years. Why would Jacen immediately look like a shriveled, shrunken child, instead of slightly different than the handsome, bearded man he was described as throughout the recent books? Anakin did not suddenly change in appearance except for his eyes. The artist is clearly incompetent: Rather than making a slightly more menacing version of Jacen, he created a bizarre, ape-like character who bears little resemblance to the character we knew. Israi 08:14, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

listen, i know that Jacen and Caedus are the same person, but the dreams Luke keeps on having of the dark shadow is Caedus. thats y Darth Caedus is on the cover, to show us that hes different from Jacen but that there the same person. Caeuds will do anything or sacrifice any one, and i dont think that 10 years ago in star wars time that Jacen would of wanted 2 kill Mara thats wat makes jacen different, Israi, his choices are making him different and turning him into evil, into a stranger, proving that hes not the same jacen Solo that weve known all throughout the series.

What's wrong with you, 70.184.166.198?!!? Have u never read a Karen Traviss book?! They are the best books in the series, man!! Darth Cronus 14:48, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Yea they are!!

Woot! At least someone on this page has half a brain. Btw, sign your comments. Darth Cronus 20:55, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Y should i??

If we could all stop arguing, please? When I was looking at the cover art (which, by the way, looks just fine,) I noticed something very peculiar. I zoomed in to look at the ships in the background and noticed that Caedus's arm looked a little too...robotic. Is it possible that in Fury, Ben Skywalker has a duel with Jacen, seeking to kill him to avenge his mother's death? Is it also possible that, in his fury (hence the title) he slices off Jacen's arm and he makes a prosthetic one? This could make sense as the back cover of Revelation was not given due to crucial plot info being there. 205.209.93.44 12:15, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

And, by the way, would this not further mirror Caedus's grandfather, Anakin Skywalker, who lost his arm to Count Dooku? 205.209.93.44 12:17, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

A lame rip-off anyway
Legacy is pretty much just a lame attempt to rip off nuances from the prequel trilogy. I wonder when they're going to actually come up with some original ideas instead of putting a monkey at a typer-writer like they've been doing for this series.

Seriously, I actually thought up ideas like this back when NJO was first being published, but even I knew they would be unoriginal and stupid. - No name

This is not a discussion forum, this page is only for discussing the editting of the article and it's improvement, not opinions on the subject material. PitchBrick 15:36, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

exacly, i agree with the person above me this is not just for ur opinions, and if u 2 up there are so smart y arent u guys star wars authors or somthing, and if u think this is like the prequel trilogy then tell us wat happens if u think u know it all??
 * Stop this now, or your ass will be violently warned. Thefourdotelipsis 08:20, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

u want me 2 stop cuz u know that im right.

*Stop this now, or your ass will be violently warned. Lol, I find it funny that I could report you for swearing... XD And in reguards to the other guy who doesn't seem to know how to spell, you know what I'm saying is true. The writers that are working on Legacy have just been ripping off bits and peices from the recent Star Wars movies. None of it is original in the slightest, and all they're doing with Jacen Solo, "Darth Caedus" is trying to rip-off the whole Anakin/Vader story arc. This book is garbage. Just like the rest of the series.

Hope they come up with something original soon.

spelling really doesnt count. and yea ur right about the series but i wouldnt say that it was garbage though there still pretty interesting. oh and good joke Lol.
 * I'm just trying to tell ya, this is a discussion of the article. Not a book which neither of you have actually read. Thefourdotelipsis 00:37, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, this is clearly a highly intelligent, relevant conversation which obviously belongs on this talk page. Perhaps you missed the large header at the top of this page which says, "This is the Talk Page for Revelation. This space is used for discussion relating to changes to the article, not for a discussion about the topic in question." Cut it out. Now. And for the love of marble rye, learn to type properly. Havac 00:38, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Whats the Revelation?
I think that the Revelation will be a new Empire. Caedus and Niathal will probably make themselves rule, and by them ruling thatll be there downfall in losing the war.


 * The Revelation will most likely be a turning point in the war, or Jacen returns to the light side to stop what he has created, or Jacen dies but the damage he has done won't be fixed until Invincible Liberi Fatali37 16:25, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

The revelation can also have somthing to do with the Sith.


 * I would have thought the said revelation to be obvious: the Jedi all learn who really killed Mara Jade. This is said in the Amazon.com synopsis. 205.209.93.44 11:35, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Yea that is likely to happen. i think thats it!


 * Which, of course, results in the actual hunting of our beloved Jacen. Also, since when has Amazon did a synopsis? TheNewDarthMalevlent ( The Sith shall rise to power!) |undefined 05:11, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

And this hunting of this Jacen wud explain y Jaina is hunting him. But how does fett know that Mara died though?
 * Please, do not speculate about the contents of books on talk pages. Talk pages are to be used to discuss the article, not the subject per se. Thefourdotelipsis 08:15, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

So what. im just talking about the Revelation and Maras death is the Revelation. so boba fett has 2 do with the Revelation. so shut up.

Information
Revelation is a mysterious novel. I know it is boring to wait so I revealed some info. If you watch carefully the cover you can see an TIE fighter at the top of Jacen's head. The TIE bomber is at the bottom of the image. Unfortunately I couldn't realise what kind of spacecraft was the one that explodes neither the big one that appears. It may possibly be an kind of Star Destroyer. Even a Pellaeon class one. I also used the previous nove's info for Luke. it is unknown if Luke is going to survive in Fury so I added the (presumably) word near Luke's appearance. For uncovering more info for the novel the users can use the cover until the backcover is released. Also the previous novel can be useful. George Skywalker 08:36, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Luke, Han, and Leia's appearances in Fury, Revelation, and Invincible is guaranteed, due to Uncle Lucas has put an invincible shield around them. Liberi Fatali37 05:08, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes that is wats going on. but which ones will live at the end of Invincible??? i think that some one important has 2 die.


 * Please sign your comments with four ~ and use proper grammar. None of the three major characters will die.  George Lucas and many other EU officials have stated this numerous times. Liberi Fatali37 22:48, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

man screw grammar.


 * is it me? or is this book the longest to withhold any spoiler. Fury, and inferno already had most of their within a month.(QX100 07:15, 31 January 2008 (UTC))
 * What about ben!?Meesa yoda 22:02, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Nevermind Ben, I wanna see some mandalorians kick some GAG behind! QX100 04:38, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Does Ben have an invincible shield around him?!Meesa yoda 01:37, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I would think so, seeing as Mara is dead and Luke probably wont marry someone else seeing what a wreck he is. If Ben dies, how would we be able to explain Cade Skywalker in that "Complete Spoiler" Legacy of the Force comic series.--LtCol. JuiceStain 02:36, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Individuals

 * Were did Darth Maul and Qui-Gon-Jinn come from????


 * I second that question. Why would they be mentioned in this book in the first place?? Nobody knew Darth Maul's name anyway. --71.237.226.3 03:11, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Darth Maul is bound to be mentioned be the sith lords. and Qui-Gon-jinn was prbably mentioned as one of the people taht Maul had killed. is there a source for maul and qui-gonn being mentioned?


 * The article says that they are mentioned in the book, but there is no official source that I know of. --71.237.226.3 20:01, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Should they be taken out or should we wait until Fury is released???--Darth Revanon 21:08, 20 November 2007 (UTC)Darth Revanon 04:06, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't know for sure. Let's wait until we see Fury, and if we don't have a source by that point, then let's remove them. --71.237.226.3 21:15, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Yea but in the meantime we need to search for a source and we also need to add More battles to the Fury Article.--Darth Revanon 04:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Alright. --71.237.226.3 23:06, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * we have 2 wait until those come out and then we add them and in the meantime we just have 2 wait i guess.
 * I guess so. --71.237.226.3 02:26, 21 November 2007 (UTC)


 * someone took out like half of the characters
 * That is a good thing that they were removed (at least until a source appears). --71.237.226.3 06:17, 27 November 2007 (UTC)


 * i know this isnt part of the discussion, but did u get Fury??
 * Sadly, I haven't yet. --71.237.226.3 02:09, 29 November 2007 (UTC)


 * yea same here. it looks real good. u read any of the spoilers??
 * I agree. However, I am trying my best to avoid spoilers (for now). --71.237.226.3 06:09, 29 November 2007 (UTC)


 * yea i know wat u mean. if Furys out why arent people updating Revelations page with Furys expert of Revelation??
 * I don't know. --71.237.226.3 01:46, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

On pg 362, and I quote, "Jedi had killed Sith before. They said Qui-Gon Jinn killed a Sith on Naboo, but nobody thought it was an instant passport to the dark side, because dirty jobs had to be done." Now, is this just a statement showing that, for some reason, Obi-Wan left some people with the view that Qui-Gon had killed Maul, or is this just a blatant continuity error? I mean, we know Traviss is fairly new to the series and she even admits to finally watching it all the way through only a few years ago. I admire what she has done with Fett, the mandolorians and the clones, but this should really be fixed before Revelation hits stands. Chervil 19:16, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, got Fury yesterday and finished it at lunch. Apparantly the reference to Maul and Qui-Gon is in the preview for "Revelation" and actually confused me a bit.

Yea that shud defonitly be fixed. Maul didnt kill Qui-Gon anyway. person above me, does Fury have an expert of Revelation. if it does then we shud fix Revelations article. i wud do it but i dont have Fury yet.

G'vli G'Sil?

 * Should he be put in the characters list?? Darth Revanon 6:00, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Sith Meditation Sphere?
Is it possible for Ben or luke or someone to find the ship, and the ship was with Alema wen Mara was killed, so someone finds it and asks if Alema really did kill Mara, and itll say no?? Darth Revanon 4:32, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

March 4th??
What the heck happened to the date February 26th?? that was the permenant date. --Darth Revanon 6:42, 28 December 2007 (UTC) February is the month shown on Karen Traviss's website for the release date. It doesn't show the actual day of release, but the website links to amazon.com, which shows the release to be February 26th. There is no evidence of the release date being in March.--Nefirus 03:15, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * In publication, there is no such animal as a permanent date Dangerdan97 19:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Pre-release book
Hey, dudes. Any of you ordered a pre-release book yet? I'm dying to hear what's in the book. 131.109.225.3 19:47, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I for one think that there will be a battle for Murkhanna and a duel with Caedus and Boba Fett. and Niathal will probably end up dead since Jacen doesnt like nonhumans that much anymore.Darth Revanon 6:24, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

We're not even out of January. Major spoilers won't come out until mid-Feb, at best. Be patient.  Firebird  Phoenix Rising 09:45, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Yea thats true.Darth Revanon 10:45, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

What the?!?!?!
Can someone explain to me how the heck there are spoilers throughout the website if the book hasn't been published yet? I just read one and I'm really ticked off about it (yea, I know...it says MAJOR spoiler warnings blah blah blah).--LtCol. JuiceStain 13:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Some guy from TFN got the book ridiculously early.  Firebird  Phoenix Rising 13:36, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Thats not at all fair! CURSE HIM! LoL...i guess that explains it. Thanks for the explanation. Guess I'll have to be more careful before i read it.--LtCol. JuiceStain 17:55, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Yea these spoilers are coming out way to early. but the one thing that im dying 2 read is the plot summary for the book. but theres another thing that im really confused about, in the battle of fondor i know that its a spoiler and i shudnt give away the deaths but there but there was 2 and one of them was shocking but the second one like has no source. and i even went 2 the characters page and nothing was there. i just added Revelation to the books the person was in. and also another thing that needs attention is the dramatis personae on this page. Im not trying 2 order anyone around or anything but if AANYONE has any ideas then please help.--Darth Revanon 4:25, 11 February 2008
 * Thanks for not spoiling it for us. I have read the book, however, so I might be able to help you out...if I knew what the heck you were talking about lol. --LtCol. JuiceStain 01:45, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh yea that might help you out lol. its about the quiller thing that is listed in the battle of fondor. and how the heck have you read the book?? but i do think ive fixed that problem by putting in quille instead. because i belive, according to the page, that he dies. also if u already read the book, can u do me 2 favors not that im ordering u or anything but i just dont want Revelation to be a bad article kind of like furys is. those 2 favors are- i just added the plot summary to the article, and since youve read the book, is it the one thats actually on the back of Revelation or a fake. i got it from random house books or whatever its called. and the second thing would defonitly be to fix the dramaits personae with the right i guess youd say defonitions of the characters. thanks again for reading this long long message.--Darth Revanon 9:22, 11 February 2008


 * Oh man, I would do those favors, but, um, i just got totally confused (LOL)...for some reason, I thought the battle of Fondor already happened in the Legacy series...man oh man, sorry dude. When you said battle of Fondor, for some reason the Battle of Kuat from Inferno popped into my mind, and i thought you were talking about something in the book Inferno. That's what I meant by "I've read the book"...--LtCol. JuiceStain 17:22, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow, I apologize...I just wasted your time.--LtCol. JuiceStain 17:23, 12 February 2008 (UTC)