Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Coruscant Security Force/Legends


 * ''The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a featured article nomination that was unsuccessful. Please do not modify it.

Coruscant Security Force

 * Nominated by: Coruscantfan 13:53, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: We don't seem to have very many articles about organizations that are FAed so here is one.

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 * 1) A quick glance shows numerous unreferenced sentences and paragraphs. Please remember to read the requirements before nominating an article. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 14:29, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) *Just for context, in many FAed articles not every single sentence is sourced, and I did read the requirements and I did have another administrator look over the article first so please don't get the impression I'm just throwing this article out here. If you could please list specific sections that in your opinion need work, I'll get right to it. Thanks.Coruscantfan 14:42, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) **The only FAs with unsourced paragraphs have info from only one source, thus they don't need to be sourced. Paragraphs which don't have a [number] at the end are (at least) partially unsourced. -- 1358  (Talk) 14:45, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) **All paragraphs and other sentences are sourced. Thanks for your help. Coruscantfan 17:44, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) **You may have read the requirements, but you didn't implement them. Everything needs to be sourced. And that's something that should have been done before the article was nominated. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 14:48, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) ***OK I went back and double checked my sourcing and filled in the gaps. Coruscantfan 16:21, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) *** All paragraphs and other sentences are sourced. Sorry about the snappishness I'm still learning and I was getting a little frustrated. Thanks for your help, I appreciate it. Coruscantfan 17:44, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * 8) Quick glance
 * 9) * Intro could use some expansion.
 * 10) * Unsourced item in infobox.
 * 11) * Use ref tags in infobox.
 * 12) * Some infobox-only stuff should be added to the main body.
 * 13) * Senate hostage crisis is a conjectural title, thus it should be pipelinked.
 * 14) *Appearances, sources and references:
 * 15) ** Do not bold HoloNet entries.
 * 16) ** Do not italicize databank entries.
 * 17) ** Include links in references (ref 9).
 * 18) ** Novel appearances/references should display the name only, i.e..
 * 19) *Possibly more to come. -- 1358  (Talk) 16:31, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 20) **Intro expanded, unsourced item sourced, infobox fixed, Senate hostage crisis pipelinked, Holonet and databank entries fixed, ref 9 fixed, novel name display fixed. Thanks for your help. Coruscantfan 17:25, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * 21) Some of the referenses do not stack as they should. Please fix.--Dionne Jinn (Something to say?) 16:47, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 22) *Done Coruscantfan 17:01, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * 23) Include something about Coruscant Security from the TOR era.
 * 24) *Nover have two pictures where thery have text between them like in your Clone Wars section. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 04:14, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * 25) **The pre-Clone Wars and Clones Wars sections all are during the Old Republic days. If you are referring to The Old Republic game, then I haven't been able to find any info on CSF during that time. If you have any info along with sources let me know. Thanks. Coruscantfan 11:58, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * 26) ***I was referring to Threat of Peace. Orbital Security Station Six was in the employ of Coruscant Security. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 03:15, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * 27) ****I'll see what I can do, thanks for the info. Coruscantfan 03:31, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * 28) ****Info added. Coruscantfan 04:47, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * 29) *****Don't plagiarize my work. Put it in your own words. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 01:40, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * 30) CC
 * 31) *Please check all of your referencing. References should come after punctuation and should not have a space before them.
 * 32) *The article does not do a good job of outlining specific instances in which the CSF was involved, particularly in the Clone Wars section. Also, there's information exclusive to the introduction that goes unmentioned in the body of the article, which is a big not-to-do with any type of article.
 * 33) *No lists should be used throughout the entire article unless absolutely necessary, as they tend to be rather unsightly and unhelpful if they don't explain anything. The "Known members" list in particular should detail the specific individuals and how they were related to the CSF.
 * 34) *Make sure that your appearances and sources are ordered correctly.
 * 35) *I'm sure that there are a lot more sources than the ones currently listed. Check everything on StarWars.com for TCW and otherwise, for a start.
 * 36) *Overall, the article's coverage appears rather generalized and unspecific. While I do not know if I will be able to follow up with any of these objections due to my lessened inactivity at the moment, I'd recommend that you ask someone else to help you. If any of these objections hold up the nomination, you might consider removing it to work on it and then re-nominating it when you're finished.  CC7567  (talk) 00:57, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * 37) Xwing328:
 * 38) * The main image isn't sourced correctly.
 * 39) * For future reference, please check the spelling in your article before nominating it. Also, image captions only get periods if they are complete sentences. —Xwing328 (Talk) 03:48, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 40) Farlstendoiro
 * 41) * What about their appearance in Shadows of Coruscant? --Skippy Farlstendoiro 12:20, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Comments
 * I am partially deferring to CC to see how his objections are handled. That said, there is a fact tag that needs to be resolved and some statements that seem very unencyclopedic, such as "they were simple cops&hellip;". Please make sure the tone and wording are neutral. &mdash; Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 16:30, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * The fact tag is hard because its a general statement. Its like saying the GAR had a similar command structure to the Imperial army. They are both armies with sergeants, lieutenants, generals and so on and the command structure is something that is just generally accepted. A police force logically has a similar rank structure. In other words yes I am assuming, but I think its logical to say a captain is higher than a sergeant, its just common sense. That's what the statement is in reference too. And the CSF ranks have been established, at least the ones that are listed. However there is no one source that lists all the ranks and makes specific mention of the rank structure. So I'm not really sure how to source that, if it really even needs to be sourced, its kind of a duh statement. I will look at it in more detail later, and address CC's concerns, as well as the unencyclopedic references as soon as I can. At the moment my schedule is extremely busy, I will get to it as soon as is possible. Thanks for your comment. Coruscantfan 03:45, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm glad that you are committed to working on this, and I definitely understand the nature of a very busy schedule. Let me suggest this, however: consider removing the nomination for a while and working on some of the feedback that has been given. As it stands now, the nomination does not adhere to many of the rules that we have set for nominations to succeed. I do not want you to be discouraged, as we are willing to help. I just think it might be best to retract the nom and work on it whenever you get the time and where we can help walk you through things that might need assistance. &mdash; Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 02:06, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, so how do I remove it? Just delete this whole section or do I need to make a request of some sort?Coruscantfan 23:54, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just ask here. You just have to state it outright. I would keep in mind the objections that have been made, however, so you can make the necessary adjustments while you work on it. &mdash; Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 01:10, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, darn, I thought I was getting somewhere. But as a wise master once said: "Into exile I must go. Failed, I have." ;-) Thanks for your help, I'll renominate once I get some more work done on it. If you, as well as anyone else, could check in on the CSF page and leave suggestions I'd appreciate it. Thanks. Coruscantfan 02:11, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Feel free to ask me any questions that you do have. As things are worked on, I'll gladly look at some sections of things to see how they are coming along. Don't view this as a failure; instead, think of it as a step in the learning curve. &mdash; Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 02:40, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * "Meditate on this, I will." I know, the Yoda quotes are cheesy, but I just can't resist! Thanks, I'll be sure to get in touch with you on that soon. Coruscantfan 02:54, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * PLEASE REMOVE THIS FROM THE FA NOMINATION. THANKS. Coruscantfan 02:11, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Vote to remove nomination (Inq only)

 * 1) Per nominator's above request.  CC7567  (talk) 02:31, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) &mdash;  Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 02:40, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) *No Inq vote is required if removal has been requested by the nominator. Green Tentacle (Talk) 16:42, May 28, 2010 (UTC)