Wookieepedia:Inquisitorius/Log/2010 November 14

[18:50] * Topic is '37th Meeting: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/37th_Meeting ... Welcome to the Freenode Convention Center and the 37th not-so-monthly Inquisitorius Meeting. ... If you need your parking validated, please see the audit department, three floors above the top-floor Penthouse.'

[19:04] <@Darth_Burger> !Inqsignal [19:04] <@Nuku-Nuku> CavalierOne! CC7567! ChackJadson! Cylka! Darth_Culator! Eyrezer! Fiolli! GrandMoffTranner! GreenTentacle! Grunny! IFYLOFD! Jujiggum! Tommy9281! Toprawa and/or Ralltiir! Xicer9! Xwing328! [19:05] <@Fiolli> Ok. Let us begin. [19:05] <@Fiolli> Is anyone logging? [19:05] <@Darth_Burger> Yes [19:05] <@Fiolli> Good. [19:05] <@Darth_Burger> I'm not [19:05] <@Darth_Burger> But someone is :P [19:05] <@Fiolli> Bah. [19:05] <@Fiolli> I can't. [19:05] <@Darth_Burger> Someone is logging. [19:06] <@Fiolli> Platt Okeefe [19:07] <@Fiolli> Probe was extended last meeting. [19:07] <@Fiolli> What do we with it? [19:07] <@Darth_Burger> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Platt_Okeefe [19:07] <@Xicer9> I think everything's been fixed [19:07] <@Darth_Burger> I see nothing overly concerning [19:08] <@Fiolli> Same here. [19:08] <@Xicer9> Keep [19:08] <@CavalierOne> Me neither [19:08] <@Fiolli> I vote to keep. [19:08] <@Darth_Burger> Keep [19:08] <@CavalierOne> Keep [19:08] <@GrandMoffTranner> Keep. [19:08] <@Fiolli> Keep it is. [19:08] <@Fiolli> Halagad Ventor [19:08] <@Fiolli> starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Halagad Ventor [19:08] <@Fiolli> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Halagad_Ventor [19:08] <@Xicer9> Continue probing that sonuvabitch [19:09] <@Darth_Burger> Just curious, is someone working on it? [19:09] <@Fiolli> I see no one working on it. [19:09] <@Fiolli> I say kill. [19:09] <@GrandMoffTranner> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Halagad_Ventor_%28second_review%29 [19:09] <@GrandMoffTranner> For the record. [19:09] <@Darth_Burger> How active is this issue being handled, is my concern [19:10] <@Xicer9> I thought Arf would but he's been gone since he fixed the other issue. [19:10] <@Xicer9> So nobody currently [19:10] <@Darth_Burger> If someone was working on it, I would have no problem extending probe. [19:10] <@Fiolli> CC mentioned another thing that needs updating in it, as well. He suggests to extend the probe, but frankly, no one is working on it. [19:10] <@Darth_Burger> There hasn't been a significant edit made since the last probe. [19:11] <@Fiolli> GT also says to extend. [19:11] <@Darth_Burger> I'll be the bad guy, then. [19:11] <@GrandMoffTranner> I'm inclined to say kill. [19:11] <@CavalierOne> Well, the original problem was the intro, which was fixed. [19:11] <@Darth_Burger> Kill it, unless someone can convince me otherwise [19:11] <@CavalierOne> The additional info that Xicer brought up was added after the fact on the probe. [19:11] <@Fiolli> Two extend...three kill. [19:11] <@Fiolli> Xicer... Cav? [19:11] <@Fiolli> Culator? [19:12] <@Darth_Burger> Cav> Yes, but it's been there for over a month now. [19:12] <@Darth_Burger> Plenty of time for any interested party to respond to it [19:12] <@Xicer9> I still want to wait and see if someone will adopt it, but it's been there for a month or so [19:12] <@Darth_Burger> I reiterate that no significant edit has been made since that time. [19:12] <@Xicer9> So...I'm leaning slightly toward kill [19:12] <@CavalierOne> I'm torn. Anyone planning to take it up? [19:13] <@Fiolli> Could someone invite XWing? [19:13] <@Xicer9> That's pretty much my question [19:13] <@Fiolli> He's having issues getting in. [19:13] <@Darth_Burger> Xwing just resigned from the Inq. [19:13] <@Darth_Burger> He noted so on the meeting page. [19:13] <@GrandMoffTranner> If someone wants to adopt it, they can re-nominate it for FA when they've devoted the required amount of time to fix the issues. [19:13] <@CavalierOne> Fair enough. Kill, then [19:13] <@Fiolli> Kill it is. [19:13] * Tommy9281 (REDACTED@gateway/web/freenode/ip.REDACTED) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [19:13] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Tommy9281 [19:13] <@Darth_Burger> hey Tommy [19:13] <@Fiolli> XJ-6 airspeeder [19:13] <@Fiolli> Hey, Tommy. [19:13] <@Tommy9281> Fellows. [19:14] <@Fiolli> I vote ever so strongly to KILL on this one. [19:14] <@Darth_Burger> No edits have been made on XJ-6 since the probe. [19:14] <@Darth_Burger> I vote kill. [19:14] <@GrandMoffTranner> Kill it. [19:14] <@Tommy9281> Kill [19:14] <@GrandMoffTranner> With fire. [19:14] <@CavalierOne> Kill [19:14] <@Xicer9> Killify [19:14] <@CavalierOne> With naplam [19:14] <@Fiolli> Only Eyre says extend. [19:15] <@Fiolli> Ok. Killified it is. [19:15] <@Fiolli> Myhr Rho [19:15] <@Darth_Burger> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Myhr_Rho [19:15] <@Xicer9> Keep [19:15] <@Fiolli> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Wookieepedia:Inq/Myhr_Rho&t=20100916234909 [19:15] <@Xicer9> Eyre updated it fully [19:15] <@Fiolli> I agree keep. [19:15] <@Darth_Burger> Keep [19:15] <@GrandMoffTranner> Keep. [19:15] <@CavalierOne> Keep [19:15] <@GrandMoffTranner> With non-fire. [19:15] <@Fiolli> Kept it is. [19:15] <@Tommy9281> I agree [19:15] <@Fiolli> *Bevel Lemelisk* [19:16] <@Darth_Burger> I have issues with Bevel. [19:16] <@Fiolli> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Wookieepedia:Inq/Bevel_Lemelisk&t=20101105194622 [19:16] <@Darth_Burger> that non-canon bio needs to be moved into the BTS [19:16] <@Darth_Burger> it's an easy fix, but it's there [19:16] <@Fiolli> Is that cosmetic? [19:16] <@Fiolli> As in... simply moving a paragraph? [19:16] <@Darth_Burger> Yeah, it's just rearranging the sections. [19:16] <@Darth_Burger> I don't suggest killing. [19:17] <@Darth_Burger> Keep, but fix it. [19:17] <@CavalierOne> Keep [19:17] <@Xicer9> Keep [19:17] <@GrandMoffTranner> Keep, but fix per Tope. [19:17] <@Fiolli> You up for tackling that, Toprawa? [19:17] <@Darth_Burger> Why not [19:17] <@Darth_Burger> I'll do it afterward [19:17] <@Xicer9> It'll take two seconds [19:17] <@Fiolli> Ok. [19:17] <@Fiolli> Kept it is. [19:17] <@Darth_Burger> yeah [19:17] <@Fiolli> *Zuckuss* [19:17] <@GrandMoffTranner> Or, as the old-timers would call it, Zuckass. [19:18] <@Darth_Burger> what is the deal with this thing? [19:18] <@Fiolli> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Wookieepedia:Inq/Zuckuss&t=20101023070300 [19:18] <@Darth_Burger> is it being worked on still? [19:18] <@Tommy9281> Extend. Teak seems to still be working on it. [19:18] <@Xicer9> Trak fixed the major issues. There are a few minor formatting issues still, but not enough for an extended probe I'd say [19:18] <@Tommy9281> Trak* [19:18] <@Xicer9> Trak is pretty much done with it I think [19:18] <@Darth_Burger> I see at least one unsourced paragraph. [19:18] <@Tommy9281> she said the other day she was still working on it. [19:18] <@Xicer9> Hah, so there is one [19:19] <@Fiolli> I think this would be one of those issues where I would extend the probe. [19:19] <@Darth_Burger> that could probably be resolved easily [19:19] <@Xicer9> Alright, extend probe then [19:19] <@Darth_Burger> I could extend too [19:19] <@Darth_Burger> Extend probe [19:19] <@GrandMoffTranner> Extend probe. [19:20] <@CavalierOne> Extend. Trak was working on it yesterday, so its still active [19:20] <@Fiolli> Two others say keep, so I don't think they'll have a problem with an extension. [19:20] <@Fiolli> Extended it is. [19:20] <@Fiolli> *Kouhun* [19:20] <@Fiolli> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Wookieepedia:Inq/Kouhun&t=20101105202020 [19:20] <@Xicer9> QuiGon updated it. Keep. [19:20] <@Darth_Burger> I think I have these things crawling in my basement. [19:20] <@Fiolli> XD [19:20] <@Tommy9281> Yuck. [19:20] <@Darth_Burger> haha [19:20] <@Xicer9> My roommate saw something similar in our sink a few days ago [19:21] <@Darth_Burger> Keep, kudos to QGJ [19:21] <@CavalierOne> Keep [19:21] <@Fiolli> Keep. [19:21] <@GrandMoffTranner> Keep. [19:21] <@Tommy9281> Keep. [19:21] <@Fiolli> Kept. [19:21] <@Fiolli> *Slave Leia Costume* [19:21] <@Fiolli> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Wookieepedia:Inq/Slave_Leia_costume&t=20100912033329 [19:22] <@Tommy9281> Keep. [19:22] <@Darth_Burger> Keep, I see no issues from a glance [19:22] <@GrandMoffTranner> Keep. [19:22] <@Xicer9> Keep [19:22] <@CavalierOne> Keep, for the sheer fact it allows us to have Melissa Bell in the article [19:23] <@Fiolli> Kept. [19:23] <@Fiolli> XD [19:23] <@Fiolli> *Vuffi Raa* [19:23] <@Darth_Burger> ugh [19:23] <@Fiolli> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Wookieepedia:Inq/Vuffi_Raa_%28second_review%29&t=20101110122143 [19:23] <@Darth_Burger> I have Vuffi issues. [19:23] <@Darth_Burger> I've read the Lando Calrissian Trilogy since the last Inqmoot [19:23] <@Darth_Burger> This article's level of detail is pathetic [19:23] <@Fiolli> Fair enough. [19:23] <@Darth_Burger> This is what FAs looked like in 2006. [19:23] <@Fiolli> What suggest you? [19:24] <@Xicer9> Jeez, this is a 2006 article? [19:24] <@Fiolli> Extend probe with these new issues? [19:24] <@Darth_Burger> I'd like to extend or re-extend probe, whatever it is [19:24] <@Darth_Burger> Total freaking revamp and overhaul [19:24] <@Xicer9> Extend [19:24] <@Darth_Burger> That's my nice way of saying you might as well just rewrite it from scratch [19:24] <@CavalierOne> Extend, with a view to a kill ... [19:24] <@GrandMoffTranner> Curse you, Cav! Now I have that song stuck in my head. [19:24] <@Fiolli> Eyre and CC vote for keep, ftr. [19:25] <@GrandMoffTranner> But extend probe. [19:25] <@CavalierOne> My plan all along! [19:25] <@Fiolli> Extension is my vote. [19:25] <@Fiolli> Tommy? [19:25] <@Fiolli> Culator? [19:25] <@Tommy9281> I missed that. [19:25] <@Fiolli> I see. ;) [19:25] <@Tommy9281> Hold [19:26] <@Fiolli> ? [19:26] <@Tommy9281> Oh vuffi? Extend [19:26] <@Fiolli> Extended it is. [19:26] <@Fiolli> *Diergu-Rea Duhnes'rd* [19:26] <@Fiolli> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Wookieepedia:Inq/Diergu-Rea_Duhnes%27rd&t=20100916015341 [19:26] <@GrandMoffTranner> Gesundheit. [19:26] * IFYLOFD (~chatzilla@REDACTED) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [19:26] * ChanServ sets mode: +o IFYLOFD [19:26] * Nuku-Nuku sets mode: +o IFYLOFD [19:27] <@Fiolli> Thanks. [19:27] <@Tommy9281> Thank you. [19:27] <@Fiolli> Floyff. :) [19:27] <@Tommy9281> Floyd. [19:27] <@IFYLOFD> Sorry I'm late, I thought the meeting was at 8. :P [19:27] <@IFYLOFD> Hey Fiolli, Tommy. [19:27] <@Fiolli> I vote to keep on this one. [19:27] <@Xicer9> Keep [19:27] <@Tommy9281> I agree. [19:27] <@Fiolli> I'm just not sure there is really a problem. [19:28] <@Darth_Burger> hey Floyd [19:28] <@Fiolli> Floyff: Diergu-Rea Duhnes'rd [19:28] <@IFYLOFD> Hey Tope. [19:28] <@Fiolli> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Wookieepedia:Inq/Diergu-Rea_Duhnes%27rd&t=20100916015341 [19:28] <@GrandMoffTranner> Keep. [19:28] <@CavalierOne> Keep [19:28] <@IFYLOFD> Oh, I looked at this one already. Keep. [19:28] <@Fiolli> Toprawa? [19:29] <@Darth_Burger> Keep [19:29] <@Fiolli> Kept. [19:29] <@Fiolli> *Carth Onasi* [19:29] <@Fiolli> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Wookieepedia:Inq/Carth_Onasi_%28third_review%29&t=20100912081626 [19:29] <@CavalierOne> Third review? [19:29] <@CavalierOne> Is that a record? [19:29] <@Tommy9281> Sheesh. [19:29] <@Xicer9> Wow [19:29] <@Darth_Burger> Kill it out of principle :P [19:29] <@Fiolli> No, it isn't. We've had a fourth somewhere, I believe. [19:30] <@Xicer9> Three strikes and yer out [19:30] <@Tommy9281> Lol [19:30] * @Darth_Burger wonders if the silence means we're really considering that :P [19:31] <@Xicer9> Looks ok though, keep. [19:31] <@Tommy9281> Is this thing on? [19:31] <@Fiolli> I've looked at it... there two "tweaks" that may be needed at worst... but it's actually one of the better KotOR articles. [19:31] <@Darth_Burger> I'd like someone to cleanup all the redlinks [19:31] <@Fiolli> I'm going to say keep on the merit of it being fixed. [19:31] <@CavalierOne> Needs going over for redirects, though. [19:31] <@IFYLOFD> The update tag seems to be fixed. [19:31] <@Tommy9281> Kasra'll see to that. [19:31] <@IFYLOFD> Keep. [19:31] <@Darth_Burger> Which are sending orange radiation into my eyes [19:31] <@GrandMoffTranner> Keep, I suppose. [19:31] <@Tommy9281> Keep. [19:31] <@CavalierOne> Keep [19:31] <@Darth_Burger> Keep, but clean it up [19:31] <@Fiolli> Ok. Kept. [19:32] <@IFYLOFD> I'll handle the redirects once the meeting's over. [19:32] <@GrandMoffTranner> Good man. [19:32] <@Fiolli> *Noval Garaint* [19:32] <@Darth_Burger> Noval! [19:32] <@Fiolli> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Wookieepedia:Inq/Noval_Garaint&t=20100916013535 [19:32] <@IFYLOFD> Noooooooval! [19:32] <@Xicer9> The orange is mostly a product of Project Colon [19:32] <@Darth_Burger> The badass stormtrooper bounty hunter from Star Wars: Rebellion! [19:32] <@Tommy9281> ? [19:32] <@IFYLOFD> Looks like Eyrezer got it. Keep. [19:33] <@Darth_Burger> Keep this BAMF! [19:33] <@Fiolli> By the way... for the record... I'm keeping track of proxy votes in case there is indecision. [19:33] <@CavalierOne> Keep [19:33] <@Tommy9281> Keep [19:33] <@IFYLOFD> Naturally. [19:33] <@Fiolli> I agree with keep. [19:33] <@GrandMoffTranner> Keep. [19:33] <@Xicer9> Keep [19:33] <@Fiolli> Kept. [19:33] <@Fiolli> *Drovian* [19:34] <@Fiolli> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Wookieepedia:Inq/Drovian_%28second_review%29&t=20101023071325 [19:34] <@Darth_Burger> I like the sound of Wookiee's Codpiece. [19:34] <@Darth_Burger> Looks a lot better from its original pre-probe state. [19:34] <@Darth_Burger> Keep [19:34] <@IFYLOFD> Keep. [19:34] <@Tommy9281> Indeed. [19:34] <@CavalierOne> Keep [19:34] <@IFYLOFD> But we need a Wookiee's Codpiece article. [19:34] <@GrandMoffTranner> Keep. [19:35] <@Darth_Burger> Definitely [19:35] <@IFYLOFD> That's way too awesome to be a redlink. [19:35] <@Xicer9> Keep [19:35] <@Fiolli> Kept. [19:35] <@Fiolli> Okay, all... [19:35] <@Culator|Away> It should be a general article like pants with a subsection for Wookiees. [19:35] <@Fiolli> Now if we'll all move to Salon B and C. [19:35] <@Darth_Burger> I have a suggestion before we proceed. [19:35] <@Fiolli> *Rokko* [19:35] <@Fiolli> Sure... [19:35] <@Fiolli> Go ahead. [19:35] <@Xicer9> God dammit TCW [19:35] <@Culator|Away> Oh, wait, that's a proper noun. [19:35] <@Darth_Burger> A lot of these TCW articles need the same update. [19:36] <@Darth_Burger> For expediency, we could just group a lot of them as one. [19:36] <@Culator|Away> So we need a separate codpiece article. Anyway. [19:36] <@Darth_Burger> Just a suggestion :P [19:36] <@CavalierOne> Per Tope. [19:36] <@Culator|Away> Kill all TCW articles on principle. [19:36] <@Darth_Burger> You're in charge, Fiolli :P [19:36] <@Xicer9> I like this idea [19:36] <@Fiolli> I'll group some of them, sure. [19:36] <@Fiolli> A few I'll keep separate for obvious reasons. [19:37] <@Fiolli> Although, I'll field individual complaints (about the articles) [19:37] <@Fiolli> Ok... [19:37] <@Fiolli> *Rokko* [19:37] <@Fiolli> Lacking Bts, apparently. [19:37] <@Xicer9> Still no bts, probe [19:37] <@Darth_Burger> Probe [19:37] <@GrandMoffTranner> Probify. [19:37] <@IFYLOFD> Probe. [19:37] <@CavalierOne> Probity [19:37] <@Tommy9281> Yup. [19:37] <@Fiolli> Probe. [19:38] <@Fiolli> Toprawa? [19:38] <@Fiolli> Culator? [19:38] * @Darth_Burger already voted :) [19:38] <@Darth_Burger> 	Probe [19:38] <@Fiolli> Oh, that was way up there. [19:38] <@Fiolli> Sorry. [19:38] <@Fiolli> Probified it is. [19:38] <@Fiolli> *Katuunko* [19:39] <@Fiolli> Trayus says he fixed it. [19:39] <@Darth_Burger> Looks good to me [19:39] <@Darth_Burger> No probe. [19:39] <@GrandMoffTranner> No probe. [19:39] <@Fiolli> Safe. [19:39] <@Xicer9> Spare [19:39] <@Fiolli> Anyone else? [19:39] <@CavalierOne> Same, although have no watched the episode in question [19:39] <@IFYLOFD> Keep. [19:39] <@Fiolli> Spared. [19:39] <@Darth_Burger> I think we need to grant Trayus the magic Redlink Detector. [19:39] <@Tommy9281> Kep as well [19:39] <@Tommy9281> Keep* [19:39] <@Darth_Burger> er Redirect* [19:40] <@CavalierOne> I think the magic redirect detector should be standard in the Wook's css/js [19:40] <@Darth_Burger> yeah [19:40] <@Fiolli> *Battle of Saleucami* fka *First Battle of Saleucami* [19:40] <@Darth_Burger> The Artist fka First Battle of Saleucami [19:41] <@Darth_Burger> I see no probe. [19:41] <@Fiolli> I see no reason to probe. [19:41] <@GrandMoffTranner> Looks good. No probe. [19:41] <@IFYLOFD> No probe. [19:41] <@Tommy9281> Keep. [19:41] <@Xicer9> Spare [19:41] <@CavalierOne> No probe [19:42] <@Fiolli> Anyone else? [19:42] <@Fiolli> 3... [19:42] <@Fiolli> 2... [19:42] <@Fiolli> 1... [19:42] <@Darth_Burger> FUN! [19:42] <@IFYLOFD> BLAST OFF [19:42] <@Fiolli> Kept. [19:42] <@Fiolli> *CT-21-0408* [19:42] <@Fiolli> Probe with agent orange. [19:42] <@Darth_Burger> Do you care to tell us about this one, Jang? [19:43] * Fiolli sets mode: +v Jang|Away [19:43] <@Darth_Burger> I don't know if he's even around. [19:43] <@Fiolli> ping Jang|Away [19:43] <@Xicer9> Jangles, wakey wakey [19:43] <+Jang|Away> Hey [19:43] <@Fiolli> What say you about CT-21-0408? [19:44] <+Jang|Away> I've been busy lately and haven't had much time to work on those updates. I finally had some time today to work on that article. [19:44] <@Fiolli> And, CT-27-5555, for that matter. [19:44] <+Jang|Away> That article should be done tonight hopefully. [19:44] <@Fiolli> Is it done now? [19:44] <@Tommy9281> Damned clones :P [19:45] <+Jang|Away> For that article, I'll be working on him as soon as I'm done working on CT-21. And, yeah, I agree, Tommy. heh :P [19:45] <@Fiolli> Ok. I trust you, but we need to see it. I'm going to vote probe... which isn't the end of the world. [19:45] <@Xicer9> Probalicious [19:45] <@Darth_Burger> Ok, do your best to have it ready by next meeting. [19:45] <@Tommy9281> I agree. [19:46] <@Darth_Burger> Probe for now [19:46] <@GrandMoffTranner> Probe. [19:46] <@IFYLOFD> Probe. [19:46] <@CavalierOne> Probity [19:46] <@Fiolli> Probified. [19:46] * Fiolli sets mode: -v Jang|Away [19:46] <@Xicer9> First probe of the meeting [19:46] <@Fiolli> Thank you, Jang. [19:46] <@Fiolli> Stick around, we may need you. [19:46] <@Xicer9> Or second [19:46] <@Fiolli> 4-LOM [19:46] <@Fiolli> *4-LOM* [19:47] <@Fiolli> I'm interpreting Trak's votes as for probation. [19:47] <@CavalierOne> Same. Probe [19:47] <@Darth_Burger> The Equipment section should come after Characteristics [19:47] <@Xicer9> Nothing is popping out at me at the moment [19:47] <@Darth_Burger> Not that we have a droid layout, but that's kind of just how we do it. [19:47] <@Tommy9281> That's what I thought as well. [19:48] <@Darth_Burger> But yeah, probe [19:48] <@IFYLOFD> Probe. [19:48] <@GrandMoffTranner> Another probe. [19:48] <@Fiolli> Probe, reluctantly. [19:48] <@Xicer9> Alright, probe [19:49] <@Fiolli> *501st Legion* [19:49] <@Darth_Burger> I hate this article for some reason. [19:49] <@Darth_Burger> I'm sorry, I just do. :P [19:49] <@Tommy9281> It was a mess [19:49] <@Darth_Burger> It's been patchworked back together so many times it just annoys me. [19:50] <@Darth_Burger> But if it needs an update, probe the bastard! [19:50] <@IFYLOFD> Probe. [19:50] <@CavalierOne> Probe all TCW articles! [19:50] <@GrandMoffTranner> Probe. [19:50] <@Xicer9> Per Cav [19:52] <@Fiolli> Probe. is my voe. [19:52] <@Fiolli> Anyone else? [19:52] <@Fiolli> *vote. [19:53] <@Fiolli> Ok. Probed. [19:53] <@Fiolli> # Battle of Christophsisâ€”update needed [19:53] <@Fiolli> # Battle of the Kaliida Nebulaâ€”update needed [19:53] <@Darth_Burger> we could just throw the lot in at this point [19:53] <@Darth_Burger> all these TCWs are the same, I believe [19:53] <@CavalierOne> Probe all TCW articles! [19:53] <@IFYLOFD> Probe 'em all! [19:53] <@Fiolli> I'm not doing that. [19:54] <@Xicer9> blarg [19:54] <@Darth_Burger> You have my probe vote for all TCWs. [19:54] <@CavalierOne> Per Tope [19:55] <@Darth_Burger> They're not all the same update, but they all have the same issue. [19:55] <@Fiolli> What about these two? [19:55] <@Fiolli> Anyone else? [19:56] <@Xicer9> Probe [19:56] <@Culator|Away> Nuke them all from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. [19:56] * @Tommy9281 (REDACTED@gateway/web/freenode/ip.REDACTED) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [19:56] <@GrandMoffTranner> Seriously, we can just probe all the TCW articles right now and save us a half hour of unneeded effort. [19:56] <@Darth_Burger> We're already seeing the devastating effects! [19:56] <@Fiolli> These two probed. [19:56] <@Fiolli> # CC-1004â€”update needed [19:57] <@Fiolli> # CC-5052â€”update needed [19:57] <@Fiolli> # Cad Baneâ€”update needed [19:57] <@Fiolli> # Cham Syndullaâ€”update needed [19:57] <@Fiolli> # Cut Lawquaneâ€”update needed [19:57] <@Fiolli> # Ganchâ€”update needed [19:57] <@Fiolli> # Gha Nachktâ€”update needed [19:57] <@Fiolli> These seven? [19:57] <@Darth_Burger> Probe em all to hell! [19:57] <@CavalierOne> Probe. All from the same source. [19:57] <@Xicer9> Probe with a Vengeance [19:57] <@Fiolli> Probed. [19:57] <@Fiolli> *Gotal* [19:58] <@Fiolli> This is not a TCW one, I believe. [19:58] <@Xicer9> That's a lot of updates... [19:58] <@Darth_Burger> For the sake of the probation page, this article needs SERIOUS work. [19:58] <@Xicer9> Super duper probe [19:58] <@Darth_Burger> I have that on authority from the Alien Master himself, SavageBob [19:58] <@CavalierOne> Probe, probe, and probe some more. [19:58] <@Fiolli> I vote probe. [19:58] <@GrandMoffTranner> I'll have the probe deluxe, with a side of probe fries. [19:59] <@Fiolli> You would. [19:59] <@IFYLOFD> UUUUUUUULTRRRRRRRA PROOOOOOOBE [19:59] <@Fiolli> ;) [19:59] <@Fiolli> Probed. [19:59] <@Culator|Away> Gotal? The fact that that one of their kind hosted a show called "Hey, Remember the 80's?" is completely overlooked. [19:59] <@Fiolli> *Jaina Solo* [19:59] <@Darth_Burger> Hey, Tope. It pains me to say it, but I'd go so far to say that Gotal needs a full-on probe from the INQ. it's not as simple as adding the appearances from The Clone Wars to fix this one up. On a brief glance, I'd say that not all appearances are accounted for in the text (quite a few are in the "Appearances" list but not in the end notes), it needs to be checked that it does have all... [19:59] <@Darth_Burger> ...appearances accounted for (Gotals are fairly popular as far as SW aliens go, so I'd wager a "What links here" search would turn up lots of missed stuff), and the BTS could most certainly be beefed up to account for more of the Gotals' development through the EU. In short, the article needs a major facelift. ~ SavageBob 05:12, October 10, 2010 (UTC) [19:59] <@Darth_Burger> That was Bob's message to me on my talkpage. [19:59] <@Fiolli> Probed. No worries. [19:59] <@Fiolli> *Jaina Solo* [19:59] <@Xicer9> Appears to have been updated [20:00] <@CavalierOne> Indeed. Spare [20:01] <@Darth_Burger> If it was updated, no probe [20:01] <@GrandMoffTranner> No probe. [20:01] <@Xicer9> Spare, although I wouldn't mind probing her [20:01] <@IFYLOFD> No probe. [20:02] <@IFYLOFD> It's not an Inqmoot until someone makes a probe joke. [20:02] <@Fiolli> Spared. [20:02] <@Xicer9> There has to be at least one every meeting =P [20:02] <@Xicer9> It's a rule [20:02] <@Darth_Burger> Yes, good work :P [20:02] <@CavalierOne> Aw, I was waiting for Peppi Bow to make the probe joke ... [20:03] <@Fiolli> Mar Tuuk [20:03] <@Fiolli> and Peppi Bow [20:03] <@Fiolli> (I'll lump them together for this) [20:03] <@Xicer9> More CWA [20:03] <@Darth_Burger> Probe [20:03] <@CavalierOne> Probe [20:03] <@Xicer9> Probe [20:03] <@GrandMoffTranner> Probe. [20:05] <@Fiolli> Probed. [20:05] <@Fiolli> Nym [20:05] <@Fiolli> Wait... [20:05] <@Fiolli> Before we go on... [20:05] <@Darth_Burger> Why isn't his last name Pho [20:05] <@CavalierOne> XD [20:05] <@GrandMoffTranner> hahaha [20:06] <@Fiolli> I want everyone to know that Trayus said Peppi Bow was fine except for the template. [20:06] <@Fiolli> I vote keep on that one, but kill Mar Tuuk. [20:06] <@GrandMoffTranner> Damn you, Fiolli. :p [20:07] <@Darth_Burger> Keep it then [20:07] <@CavalierOne> Keep [20:07] <@Xicer9> Spare then [20:07] <@IFYLOFD> Keep. [20:08] <@Fiolli> Ok. Kept. [20:08] <@Fiolli> Nym [20:08] <@GrandMoffTranner> Wait a sec. [20:08] <@Xicer9> Info from Punish the Pirates is already there, although it was there before Mauser added the update tag. I'm not sure what actually needs to be added. [20:09] <@Darth_Burger> Something needs to be done with that "Personal craft" section [20:09] <@Darth_Burger> Change it to "Equipment" [20:09] <@Darth_Burger> I don't care [20:09] <@Darth_Burger> But fix it [20:10] <@GrandMoffTranner> Regarding Peppi Bow, apparently it's more than a picture only, according to Mauser. [20:10] <@Darth_Burger> THIS COUNCIL REQUIRES EVIDENCE! [20:11] <@Fiolli> I trust Trayus on this. [20:11] <@Fiolli> I'm inclined to keep Peppi. [20:11] <@GrandMoffTranner> If we're trusting Trayus, then we'll have to keep Tuuk, and possibly others, as well. [20:11] <@Darth_Burger> If there's uncertainty, would it be so bad to probe just to be safe? [20:11] <@Xicer9> The update tag with the Card Commander thing was added after Trayus's post [20:11] <@Fiolli> Possibly, but he isn't sure in his comments. [20:11] <@Darth_Burger> Give them time to confirm it for us? [20:11] <@Xicer9> Probe [20:11] <@Darth_Burger> PROBE THE DICKENS OUT OF IT [20:12] <@IFYLOFD> Probe. [20:12] <@GrandMoffTranner> If we're probing Tuuk and the others, Peppi Bow needs to be probed as well. [20:12] <@Fiolli> Okay... revote on Peppi. [20:12] <@Fiolli> Tranner: I personally don't buy that logic. [20:12] <@Darth_Burger> Voting on something three times? [20:12] <@Fiolli> I do vote probe. [20:12] <@Darth_Burger> THIS has to be a new record :P [20:12] <@Fiolli> That's final. [20:12] <@Fiolli> PROBED. [20:12] <@IFYLOFD> Third time's the charm! [20:12] <@Fiolli> ONWARD. [20:12] <@Fiolli> NYM, for the love of Kyle Katarn. [20:13] <@Xicer9> This is what's already there that's reffed to Punish the Pirates: "Also, at some point an unspecified individual hired a spacer through Dengar to get even with Nym for the reason he didn't care to specify." [20:14] <@CavalierOne> Thats nice and vague ... [20:14] <@Xicer9> The outcome of the scenario isn't included [20:14] <@Xicer9> So, someone needs to actually play it and add that [20:14] <@CavalierOne> Probe then. And that statement needs reworking. [20:14] <@Darth_Burger> Yeah, that's not the prettiest thing. [20:15] <@Darth_Burger> Probe. [20:15] <@GrandMoffTranner> Probe. [20:15] <@Xicer9> I dont think I know of anyone besides Mauser who actually has the game. =P [20:15] <@Xicer9> Probe [20:15] <@IFYLOFD> Proberation. [20:16] <@Fiolli> Probed. [20:16] <@Fiolli> # Second Battle of Geonosisâ€”update needed [20:16] <@Fiolli> # Sky Battle of Quellâ€”update needed [20:16] <@Fiolli> # Wat Tamborâ€”update needed [20:16] <@Fiolli> # Whorm Loathsomâ€”update needed [20:16] <@Darth_Burger> Group probe. ^.^ [20:16] <@Xicer9> Probe those suckers [20:16] <@IFYLOFD> Probe. [20:16] <@GrandMoffTranner> Probe them all. [20:16] <@CavalierOne> Probe it up! [20:17] <@Fiolli> Probed. [20:17] <@Fiolli> # Evir Derricote: Will probably need an update from the TFUII novel. Xicer9(Combadge) 04:38, October 24, 2010 (UTC) [20:17] <@Fiolli> # 181st Imperial Fighter Wing: See above. Xicer9(Combadge) 04:38, October 24, 2010 (UTC) [20:17] <@Darth_Burger> Also, remove the damn "Unknowns" in Derricote. [20:18] <@Xicer9> I haven't actually read the novel, but I know both are in it. [20:18] <@CavalierOne> Def needs update. [20:18] <@CavalierOne> Major plot point in one section. [20:18] <@IFYLOFD> Probe. [20:18] <@GrandMoffTranner> Per Cav. [20:18] <@Fiolli> Well, Xicer, are they in need of updating? [20:18] <@GrandMoffTranner> Probe them both. [20:18] <@CavalierOne> Probe. [20:18] <@Fiolli> Ok. [20:18] <@Xicer9> Probeeeeee [20:18] <@Darth_Burger> Problerone [20:18] <@Fiolli> Probed. [20:18] <@Fiolli> *Wampa* [20:18] <@Darth_Burger> IT'S FIXED! [20:18] <@Fiolli> Probe. [20:18] <@Xicer9> Spare [20:18] <@Fiolli> Kidding... [20:18] <@Darth_Burger> I rewrote the first two sections for good measure :P [20:18] <@Fiolli> Spare. [20:19] <@GrandMoffTranner> No probe. [20:19] <@CavalierOne> Spare. [20:19] <@Darth_Burger> I'm not voting, for the record. [20:19] <@Darth_Burger> Since it's mine. [20:19] <@Fiolli> Spared. [20:19] <@Fiolli> Executor [20:20] * @IFYLOFD looks at Tope [20:20] <@Darth_Burger> The update is complete. [20:20] <@Darth_Burger> It still has five redlinks. [20:20] <@Xicer9> I see five redlinks though [20:20] <@Darth_Burger> But I'll get those. [20:20] <@Xicer9> Four in the sources list, three of them added by me =P [20:20] <@Darth_Burger> If you really feel like probing it for that, go ahead, but I can fix it easily [20:20] <@GrandMoffTranner> It's settled - it's Xicer's fault. :p [20:20] <@Fiolli> I agree. [20:20] <@Xicer9> The update is totally finished though right? [20:20] <@Darth_Burger> Yes. [20:20] <@CavalierOne> Spare for the fact that it introduces a receptionist. Redlinks are easy fixes. [20:20] <@Xicer9> Spare [20:21] <@GrandMoffTranner> No probe. [20:21] <@Fiolli> Ok, then. Spared. [20:21] <@Fiolli> *Antinnis Tremayne* [20:22] <@Darth_Burger> Sounds like it needs a lot of work? [20:22] <@Xicer9> Yes indeed [20:22] <@Xicer9> Super probe [20:22] <@Darth_Burger> If I may: Several issues: Missing information from Vialco's sidebar in Adventure Journal 8; the EGtD and NEGtD mention an attempt on Tremayne's life through the use of a bomb carrying mouse droid, which I can't find a reference to anywhere in the article; Two for One mentions that he wrote a book, Basic Interrogations, which is also missing from the article; the bts gives no explanation for... [20:22] <@Darth_Burger> ...Tremayne's cut appearance in EaW. Xicer9(Combadge) 04:38, October 24, 2010 (UTC) [20:22] <@GrandMoffTranner> Super probe. I like that. [20:22] <@CavalierOne> Probe [20:22] <@Fiolli> Probe. [20:22] <@Xicer9> Also, it'll be funny to see the template on his article [20:22] <@Darth_Burger> Probe [20:22] <@Culator|Away> XD [20:23] <@Fiolli> Toprawa? [20:23] <@Fiolli> Ok. [20:23] <@Fiolli> Culator> [20:23] <@IFYLOFD> Probe. [20:23] <@Culator|Away> Simply for the recursive template. [20:23] <@Fiolli> Probed. [20:23] <@Fiolli> Lutrillian. [20:23] <@Fiolli> I'm confused as to the Oseon thing. [20:24] <@Fiolli> I don't know the topic well enough. [20:24] <@Darth_Burger> I think it has to do with a CCG card [20:24] <@Darth_Burger> some character from Bespin in CCG owns a business in the Oseon or something [20:24] <@Darth_Burger> in ESB* [20:24] <@Fiolli> lame [20:24] <@Darth_Burger> but I don't know [20:24] <@Fiolli> Votes? [20:24] <@Fiolli> VOTE NOW [20:25] <@Xicer9> Probe? [20:25] <@Xicer9> Just in case [20:25] * @Culator|Away accidentally votes for Pat Buchanan. [20:25] <@Fiolli> XD [20:25] <@Darth_Burger> per Xicer [20:25] <@Fiolli> Maybe the guy from the "rent is too damn high" party. [20:25] <@Darth_Burger> Probe and give whoever time to look into it [20:26] <@Fiolli> Cav? [20:26] <@Fiolli> Tranner? [20:26] <@Fiolli> Floyd? [20:26] <@GrandMoffTranner> Probe. [20:26] <@IFYLOFD> Probe. [20:26] <@Fiolli> Probe it is. [20:26] <@Fiolli> *8t88* [20:26] <@CavalierOne> Probe. Also, why are we linking to an image in the article instead of redlinking? [20:26] <@Fiolli> Good catch. [20:27] <@Darth_Burger> I believe the rationale is that the character isn't important enough to have an article. [20:27] <@Darth_Burger> Not that I'm defending that, but I think that's what it's about [20:27] <@Fiolli> The hyperinclusionist in me says "article-ify it" [20:27] <@Darth_Burger> for example, a Lutrillian appears in the background of some bigger overall picture [20:27] <@Culator|Away> ... [20:28] <@Fiolli> *8t88* [20:28] <@Xicer9> QuiGon strikes back [20:29] <@Fiolli> I say keep. [20:29] <@Darth_Burger> sure [20:29] <@Darth_Burger> keep [20:29] <@Xicer9> Spare [20:29] <@CavalierOne> Keep [20:29] <@GrandMoffTranner> No probe. [20:30] <@Fiolli> Safe at home. [20:30] <@Fiolli> *SotE soundtrack* [20:30] <@Fiolli> Probe hard. [20:30] <@Xicer9> So...what's the deal with this? [20:30] <@Darth_Burger> Yeah, someone give me the skinny [20:30] <@Darth_Burger> I didn't care enough to read Master Jonathan's tl;dr [20:31] <@Fiolli> Unsourced statements now... basically something was sourced to an Adamwankenobi-added lick to suckipedia. [20:31] <@Fiolli> That was removed, but now it needs a source. [20:31] <@IFYLOFD> Probe. [20:31] <@Xicer9> Oh also, I remember coming across a Galaxy article about the soundtrack. Havent had time to look it over for new info. [20:31] <@Xicer9> Probe [20:31] <@CavalierOne> Probe then [20:32] <@GrandMoffTranner> Probe away. [20:32] <@Darth_Burger> FWIW, the article's detail just looks kind of...skimpy, I don't know [20:32] <@Darth_Burger> My worry is that this is one of our oldest FAs [20:32] <@Fiolli> It is... but I'm not going to say much so I don't get flamed again. [20:32] <@Darth_Burger> I'm willing to bet it could be expanded [20:32] <@Darth_Burger> Probe it [20:32] <@Fiolli> Ok. Probed it is. [20:33] <@Fiolli> *Wes Janson* [20:33] <@CavalierOne> Also, bullet list needs to be prosified. [20:33] <@Xicer9> Probify [20:33] <@Fiolli> Probe. [20:33] <@Xicer9> The whole bts could probably be beefed [20:33] <@IFYLOFD> Probe. [20:34] <@GrandMoffTranner> Probe Group - use your harpoons and tow cables! [20:34] <@CavalierOne> Probe [20:34] <@Xicer9> XD [20:34] <@Darth_Burger> haha [20:34] <@Fiolli> XD [20:35] <@Fiolli> Toprawa? [20:35] <@Darth_Burger> 	Probe it [20:35] <@Darth_Burger> oh, wait [20:35] <@Darth_Burger> new article [20:35] <@Darth_Burger> Still, probe it :P [20:35] <@Fiolli> *Raid on Ziro the Hutt's Coruscant club* [20:35] <@CavalierOne> TCW-class probe. [20:36] <@Darth_Burger> Probe [20:36] <@Fiolli> Probe. [20:36] <@GrandMoffTranner> Probe. [20:36] <@IFYLOFD> Probe. [20:36] <@Fiolli> Floyd? [20:36] <@Fiolli> Xicer? [20:36] <@Xicer9> Pobify [20:36] <@Xicer9> *Probe [20:37] <@Fiolli> Probed. [20:37] <@Fiolli> *Sammy Raider* [20:37] <@GrandMoffTranner> Dialogue template needs to die. [20:37] <@Xicer9> Spare [20:38] <@Fiolli> Spare. [20:38] <@Darth_Burger> Spare the Raider [20:38] <@GrandMoffTranner> But no probe. [20:38] <@CavalierOne> Spare, fix per Tranner [20:39] <@IFYLOFD> Spare. [20:39] <@Fiolli> Okay, spared. [20:39] <@Fiolli> *Mount Sorrow* [20:40] <@IFYLOFD> MOUNT SORROW [20:40] <@Fiolli> I vote probation. [20:40] <@Xicer9> I vote to Waru it [20:40] <@GrandMoffTranner> Nuke it. [20:40] <@GrandMoffTranner> Forget the probe. [20:40] <@Darth_Burger> The article was never 1,000 words from the start. [20:41] * @IFYLOFD (~chatzilla@REDACTED) Quit (Quit: #wookieepedia) [20:41] <@Darth_Burger> For some reason, we've given it a "grandfather clause" that we've never applied to any other article [20:41] <@Fiolli> We could be equally justified in killing, but we probably should give it a probe to be fair. [20:41] <@Fiolli> I'd have no problem with outright killing it, however. [20:41] <@Darth_Burger> The article is 2006-level detail. [20:41] <@Fiolli> We'll take heat if we do kill outright. [20:41] <@Darth_Burger> At least challenge someone to bring it to 1000 words. [20:41] * IFYLOFD (~chatzilla@REDACTED) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [20:41] * ChanServ sets mode: +o IFYLOFD [20:41] * Nuku-Nuku sets mode: +o IFYLOFD [20:41] <@IFYLOFD> Sorry about that. [20:41] <@CavalierOne> Probe to follow procedure, with a view to termination. [20:42] <@IFYLOFD> So what are we doing about Mount Sorrow? [20:42] <@Xicer9> Probe it [20:42] <@Darth_Burger> Probe [20:42] <@GrandMoffTranner> Probe, knowing that we'll kill it next time. [20:42] <@IFYLOFD> Probe. [20:42] <@IFYLOFD> Alright. [20:42] <@Fiolli> Fair enough. [20:42] <@Fiolli> Probed. [20:42] <@Fiolli> Any other articles before we go to the final ballroom? [20:42] <@Darth_Burger> anything on the maintenance page? [20:43] <@GrandMoffTranner> Unfortunately I need to get going. Have fun with whatever is left. [20:43] <@Darth_Burger> nothing new, apparently [20:43] <@Darth_Burger> later [20:43] * @GrandMoffTranner (~Tranner@wikia/GrandMoffTranner) Quit (Quit: Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three.) [20:43] <@Fiolli> Ok. [20:43] <@Fiolli> I'll make this real quick. [20:44] <@Fiolli> Basically, I want to see a couple of things put into action. [20:44] <@Fiolli> One, we should not be waiting too long between meetings with the number of FAs we have; this will undoubtedly keep causing these two hour meetings. This is, frankly, not acceptable from a RL perspective. [20:44] <@Fiolli> I want to see these be every 6 weeks minimum. [20:44] <@Fiolli> *maximum. [20:45] <@Fiolli> Before I go on, any thoughts on that? [20:45] <@IFYLOFD> I see no problem with it. [20:45] <@Darth_Burger> Agreed [20:45] * @Darth_Burger cracks the Inq whip [20:45] <@Fiolli> My preference is for once a month. We pick a Saturday and calls it set. [20:45] <@Xicer9> I like monthlies [20:45] <@Fiolli> But, I'll concede that such may not be practicle. [20:45] <@CavalierOne> In principle, no, but I can't guarentee attendance. [20:45] <@Fiolli> *practical. [20:45] <@Fiolli> Bah. [20:46] <@Fiolli> Cav, what mean you? You don't want a regularly scheduled meeting? [20:47] <@CavalierOne> No, schedule them regularly. But I can't guarantee personal attendance. This is basically a midnight start for me, regardless of length. On a Saturday night. I'm generally, well, out on a Saturday. [20:47] <@Fiolli> I understand. [20:47] <@Fiolli> Anyone oppose once per month? [20:47] <@Fiolli> Regularly scheduled? [20:47] <@Darth_Burger> Once per month is what we're supposed to be doing, anyway [20:48] <@Darth_Burger> We're just notoriously lazy :P [20:48] <@Fiolli> I make a motion for the second Saturday of the month regularly scheduled. [20:48] <@Fiolli> Any opposition? [20:48] * Tommy9281 (REDACTED@gateway/web/freenode/ip.REDACTED) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [20:48] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Tommy9281 [20:48] <@Darth_Burger> Mandating a certain Saturday might cause problems. [20:49] <@Darth_Burger> I just like to keep our flexibility open [20:49] <@Tommy9281> Non-IRC-friendly iPad [20:49] <@Darth_Burger> How about, ideally second Saturday? [20:49] <@Fiolli> Amend as necessary, but plan for that? I'll agree to that. [20:49] <@Tommy9281> We need to at least talk to each other about a date's convenience beforehand [20:50] <@Tommy9281> If we stay informal [20:50] <@Fiolli> We're talking about (re-)making it formal again. [20:50] <@Tommy9281> Ahh. [20:51] <@Tommy9281> Well? [20:51] <@Fiolli> Unless anyone objects, that's two in support. [20:52] <@Fiolli> Tommy? Xicer? Cav? Floyd? [20:52] <@IFYLOFD> I support. [20:52] <@Xicer9> Support [20:52] <@Tommy9281> For 2nd Saturday? Sure. [20:52] <@CavalierOne> Support [20:52] <@Fiolli> Ok. Second Saturday unless amended on a one-month-at-a-time basis for some major reason. [20:53] <@Fiolli> Next... I want to see people put into action the idea of voting to keep something right on the meeting page if it is fixed. [20:53] <@Tommy9281> And we can still call impromptu meetings if the need arises. [20:53] <@Fiolli> If we get two people to sign off on it, then we're done. [20:53] <@Darth_Burger> Yes [20:53] <@Fiolli> We decided on this last time, I want to see it in action. [20:53] <@Tommy9281> Sign off on what? [20:54] <@Fiolli> So, please, since we have the meeting scheduled for the 11th of December, let's start watching for a meeting page. [20:54] <@Fiolli> To sign off that it is fixed. [20:54] <@Tommy9281> Oh ok [20:54] <@CavalierOne> We ACs use three IRC votes to strike off any item that is deemed "fixed" [20:55] <@Fiolli> Whoops. I meant three. [20:55] <@Fiolli> We decided on that, too. [20:55] <@Fiolli> Ok... the last point I have. [20:56] <@Tommy9281> .... [20:56] <@Darth_Burger> My eyes are melting out of my skull. [20:56] <@Tommy9281> :P [20:56] <@Fiolli> From now on, I want to see articles listed with a real reason for probing. No more of the "update needed" thing listed. Give a reason... "Update needed from ___" or whatever. [20:56] <@Fiolli> This will allow things to be streamlined. [20:56] <@Darth_Burger> well, that has less to do with Inqs and more to do with people in general [20:57] <@Fiolli> I agree, but we need to codify this for the usage of the page. [20:57] <@Tommy9281> And a signature from whomever said it. [20:57] <@Fiolli> Yes, for each article. No more "blocks" that can be easily separated. [20:57] <@Fiolli> We need to formalize this, too. [20:57] <@Fiolli> Any objections, comments, etc.? [20:58] <@Tommy9281> I agree totally. [20:58] <@Darth_Burger> well, what happens if this stuff isn't done? [20:58] <@Darth_Burger> we're just going to not accept the article for review? [20:58] <@Tommy9281> I'd be less inclined [20:58] <@Tommy9281> I hate seeing themnwithout specifics. [20:58] <@Tommy9281> Them without* [20:58] <@Darth_Burger> If that's what we're trying to impose here, I do not support that [20:59] <@Fiolli> No, but it is pushed to the end of the meeting as back matter. [20:59] <@Fiolli> We'll focus on what we know first. [20:59] <@Fiolli> That part, I'm not up for making hard-and-fast. [20:59] <@Darth_Burger> this is so insignificant, I'm sorry [20:59] <@Fiolli> I'm up for streamlining it. [21:00] <@Darth_Burger> Forcing people to format things on the Inqmoot page or else we refuse to look at it during the meeting? [21:00] <@Fiolli> No. Encouraging them to make specifics to help us out when they're not the ones at the moot to tell us. [21:00] <@Fiolli> We need to have a reason to probe. [21:01] <@Fiolli> With no reason, I can't support a probe vote. [21:01] <@Darth_Burger> I have no problem encouraging people to do so, but I don't support making this some kind of policy [21:01] <@IFYLOFD> Per Fiolli. [21:01] <@Darth_Burger> That's just kind of ridiculous [21:01] <@Tommy9281> Per Fiolli. [21:01] <@Darth_Burger> If there's not a good enough reason to probe, then we decide not to probe it [21:01] <@Darth_Burger> Why is that so difficult? [21:02] <@Darth_Burger> This is all done on a case-by-case basis anyway. [21:02] <@Fiolli> I'm not saying we make this a hard-and-fast policy. We're telling people to simply do it. [21:02] <@CavalierOne> And reorganising lists for meetings based on "formatting" is not a good idea. It could lead to items being lost in the shuffle. Currently, we work off a list which should ensure that no article is skipped. [21:03] <@Fiolli> There's no "consequences" as one would say. [21:03] <@Fiolli> All I'm saying is that people should be told to provide specifics and a signature. [21:04] <@Fiolli> There doesn't need to be an "or else." [21:04] <@Fiolli> I fail to see why this is difficult to understand. [21:04] <@Darth_Burger> That wouldn't be changing anything we pretty much don't do already [21:04] <@CavalierOne> Well, if there's no consequences, then there's no reason for people to adhere to the suggestion. It just makes work for the Inqs when the meeting is tabled and you have to reshuffle the list based on the priorities [21:04] <@Fiolli> Cav, I'm not saying that we reshuffle the lists. [21:04] <@Fiolli> Seriously. [21:04] <@Darth_Burger> It's difficult because you and Tommy are suggesting that articles wouldn't be looked at because of some pointless little formatting technicality [21:05] <@Darth_Burger> That's insane [21:05] <@Fiolli> I do not support that. [21:05] <@Fiolli> My point... which I clarified later... [21:05] <@CavalierOne> 	No, but it is pushed to the end of the meeting as back matter. [21:05] <@CavalierOne> You are, though. [21:05] <@Fiolli> was that we'd end up not doing anything about it when it came up for vote because we'd have no reason to probe. [21:05] <@Fiolli> Cav... that was a suggestion based upon a call for an "or else." [21:06] <@Darth_Burger> I can't remember when we've ever skipped over something until the end of the meeting and then just brushed it aside at the end [21:06] <@Darth_Burger> We've never done that, AFAIK [21:06] <@Fiolli> Forget it, I'm not wanting to fight over something that is obviously grossly misunderstood. [21:07] <@Tommy9281> No I just want specificnthings that need fixing to be listed. [21:07] <@Fiolli> Any objections to adjourning the meeting? [21:07] <@Tommy9281> Specific things* [21:07] <@Tommy9281> no b [21:07] <@Darth_Burger> Like I said, I have no idea suggesting and indeed *telling* people to leave clear and concrete reasons for probing. [21:07] <@Tommy9281> Objections [21:07] <@Darth_Burger> That's a great suggestion [21:07] <@Darth_Burger> But it shouldn't be some sort of codified thing [21:07] <@CavalierOne> Per Tope. [21:07] <@Darth_Burger> idea =problem* :P [21:08] <@CavalierOne> I got the meaning :P [21:08] <@Tommy9281> I agree. [21:08] <@Tommy9281> A forced policy would never work. [21:08] <@Darth_Burger> if there's not a clear enough reason, we look for one as the meeting is going on [21:08] <@Darth_Burger> and if we don't find one, we don't probe [21:08] <@Tommy9281> But the least we could do is say it. [21:08] <@Tommy9281> I agree. [21:08] <@Darth_Burger> Yes, go ahead and say it. [21:08] <@Darth_Burger> I support that. [21:09] <@Fiolli> Anyone else? [21:09] <@Tommy9281> Nope. [21:09] <@CavalierOne> I got nothing. [21:09] <@Fiolli> I'm only going to say this: that we tell people that they "must." If they don't, we'll deal, but we need to be forceful. [21:09] <@Fiolli> That's my point. [21:10] <@Darth_Burger> Agreed. [21:10] <@Darth_Burger> We'll track them down to their homes if need be. [21:10] <@Darth_Burger> And rape their women. [21:10] <@Darth_Burger> And steal their grain. [21:10] <@Darth_Burger> And then we'll probe the article anyway. [21:10] <@Fiolli> Umm... [21:10] <@Fiolli> Ok. [21:11] <@Fiolli> Cav? Xicer? Tommy? Floyd? [21:11] <@Tommy9281> I agree. [21:11] <@Xicer9> Sure [21:11] <@CavalierOne> Per Tope. [21:11] <@IFYLOFD> Alright. [21:11] <@Tommy9281> And TFU 2 sucks sarlacc balls [21:11] <@IFYLOFD> Do sarlaccs have balls? [21:11] <@Tommy9281> Absolute waste of $60.00 [21:12] <@Fiolli> Ok. I adjourn. [21:12] <@Fiolli> I pray someone logged. [21:12] <@Fiolli> 3. [21:12] <@Fiolli> 2. [21:12] <@Fiolli> 1. [21:12] <@Darth_Burger> I sarlaccs are in fact giant testicles. [21:12] <@Fiolli> OVER. [21:12] <@Fiolli> Get out of here, everyone! [21:12] <@Xicer9> Huzzah [21:12] <@Tommy9281> Lol [21:12] <@Fiolli> Go, shoo! [21:12] <@Fiolli> ;) [21:12] <@Darth_Burger> :D [21:12] <@Fiolli> Thanks everyone. Good moot. [21:12] * IFYLOFD is now known as Floyd|UFC [21:12] <@Fiolli> See you all on the 11th of December.