Wookieepedia:AgriCorps/Log/2010 June 26

[15:00]		Welcome to AC Meeting 23. [15:00]		Hi. [15:00]		heh [15:00]		Let's get right to it [15:00]		First up, probed articles [15:00]		http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Roche_Hive_Mechanical_Apparatus_Design_and_Construction_Activity_for_Those_Who_Need_the_Hive%27s_Machines [15:00]		http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Roche_Hive_Mechanical_Apparatus_Design_and_Construction_Activity_for_Those_Who_Need_the_Hive%27s_Machines [15:00]		No change has been made. [15:01]		All absentees vote kill. [15:01]		No updating. Kill. [15:01]		Roche GA status removed. [15:01]		Now for new articles. [15:01]		http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Q9-X2 [15:01]		Q9-X2 is in need of an expansion. For a major character that was featured in three books, he has a relativity small history. Xicer brought this to my attention a couple of weeks ago, and I have to agree with him. I believe this was one of Chack's GAs. :P JangFett (Talk) 00:07, June 14, 2010 (UTC) [15:01]		All absentees vote probe. [15:02]		Not really familiar with it, but I guess it could be expanded. Probe, I guess. [15:02]	<Darth_Burger>	Q9-X2 probed. [15:02]	<Darth_Burger>	The following is Eyrezer's comment for these two sector articles. [15:02]	<Darth_Burger>	The Thesme and Lol sectors should be demoted from GA status. I have not updated them since the Atlas came out, and this book added significant new information for both articles that would likely enable them to reach 1,000 words. I will leave it up to you whether you want to probe them first, but they are not on my agenda to update any time soon. --Eyrezer 00:20, June 14, 2010 (UTC) [15:02]	<Darth_Burger>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Thesme_sector and http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lol_sector [15:03]	<Darth_Burger>	Contrary to some absentee comments, we need to follow procedure and probe the article first. [15:03]	<Darth_Burger>	So I vote probe, as does Grunny and Jugs. [15:03]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Probe them both. [15:03]	<Darth_Burger>	Thesme sector and Lol sector probed. [15:03]	<Darth_Burger>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jhor-Kai [15:03]	<Darth_Burger>	# Jhor-Kai—messy wording at places as well as phrasing that leaves some things unexplained, multiple grammatical errors, possible OR/speculation, the intro could use a slight expansion, and there are linking issues, too [15:04]	<Darth_Burger>	I'm not sure who added that comment. Jang? [15:04]	<Darth_Burger>	All absentees vote probe. [15:04]	<GrandMoffTranner>	It does look a bit choppy in places. I'd say probe. [15:04]	<Darth_Burger>	I'd like for whoever left that comment to actually identify specifics to what they're referring to on the probation page so people are more clear [15:04]	<Darth_Burger>	But Jor-Kai probed. [15:05]	<Darth_Burger>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Akanah_Norand_Goss_Pell [15:05]	<Darth_Burger>	Akanah Norand Goss Pell—Missing P&A section, the numerous sub sections lack quotes. Could use some reorganizing, i.e, shorten the amount of sub sections, and lessen the broadness of the information given in the biography. An expansion is probably needed. JangFett (Talk) 00:48, June 14, 2010 (UTC) [15:05]	<Darth_Burger>	All absentees vote probe. [15:05]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Probe that one, too. [15:05]	<Darth_Burger>	Though I left this comment: Probe Akanah Norand Goss Pell on the majority of points raised by Jang. However, I question the need for a P/A, since she doesn't seem like a true Force-user, though I don't know the material at all, so that should be discussed at the meeting. [15:06]	<GrandMoffTranner>	(For the record, Jon added Jhor-Kai to the list.) [15:06]	<Darth_Burger>	Perhaps this can be noted on the probation page. [15:06]	<Darth_Burger>	Ok [15:06]	<Darth_Burger>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ordo_Skirata [15:06]	<Darth_Burger>	Akanah probed, btw [15:06]	<Darth_Burger>	Ordo Skirata—Couple of tags in the infobox and missing Ref tags in the infobox. Also, I noticed the article has exceeded past 1,000 words. JangFett (Talk) 01:17, June 16, 2010 (UTC) [15:07]	<Darth_Burger>	All absentees vote probe. [15:07]	<Darth_Burger>	However. [15:07]	-->|	ChackJadson (~chatzilla@wikia/ChackJadson) has joined #wookieepedia-agricorps [15:07]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-agricorps +o ChackJadson by chanserv [15:07]	<ChackJadson>	Hey sorry I'm late hi Tope why are you here? [15:07]	<Darth_Burger>	The fact tags have been removed. [15:07]	<Darth_Burger>	I'm here because there's a meeting going on :P [15:07]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Actually, Tope, not all absentees vote probe. [15:07]	<Darth_Burger>	Oh, my bad. [15:07]	<ChackJadson>	Yeah, but you said you'd be absent :p [15:07]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Cav, Jon, Tommy, and CC vote keep. [15:07]	<ChackJadson>	Where we at? [15:08]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Ordo Skirata. [15:08]	<Darth_Burger>	Sorry about that [15:08]	<Darth_Burger>	And I was coming to that point eventually :P [15:08]	<Darth_Burger>	I vote keep as well [15:08]	<Darth_Burger>	I see no major points of concern [15:08]	<GrandMoffTranner>	I vote keep, too, but this really should go through the FAN process, given its length. [15:08]	<Darth_Burger>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ordo_Skirata [15:08]	<Darth_Burger>	Chack ^ [15:08]	<ChackJadson>	Per Tranner [15:08]	<Darth_Burger>	Ordo Skirata—Couple of tags in the infobox and missing Ref tags in the infobox. Also, I noticed the article has exceeded past 1,000 words. JangFett (Talk) 01:17, June 16, 2010 (UTC) [15:09]	<Darth_Burger>	It should go to FAN, but our limit allows articles up to 3,000 words, which I don't believe it exceeds. [15:09]	<Darth_Burger>	So it's good. [15:09]	<Darth_Burger>	Ordo Skirata kept. [15:09]	<ChackJadson>	Wait [15:09]	* Darth_Burger	waits [15:09]	<ChackJadson>	We can't strip articles that are 3000+ words though, right? [15:09]	<ChackJadson>	ie, that doesn't apply retroactively [15:09]	<Darth_Burger>	Correct. [15:09]	<ChackJadson>	Ok, the way you phrased it just made it seem otherwise [15:09]	<ChackJadson>	That's all [15:10]	<Darth_Burger>	I actually forgot about that until you just raised the point [15:10]	<Darth_Burger>	You're right, though [15:10]	<Darth_Burger>	Ok, moving on [15:10]	<Darth_Burger>	Do you want to host the rest of the meeting, Chack, now that you're here? [15:11]	|<--	ChackJadson has left freenode (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:11]	<GrandMoffTranner>	I guess not. :p [15:11]	<Darth_Burger>	I guess that's a no :P [15:11]	<Darth_Burger>	Ok [15:11]	<Darth_Burger>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Second_Battle_of_Abridon [15:11]	<Darth_Burger>	Second Battle of Abridon—Because of the recent CSWE entry, the article needs to be sourced per WP:S. JangFett (Talk) 01:29, June 16, 2010 (UTC) [15:11]	<Darth_Burger>	* Note that this article is also missing a BTS. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 00:51, June 19, 2010 (UTC) [15:11]	<Darth_Burger>	Absentees vote probe [15:11]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Probify. [15:11]	-->|	ChackJadson (~chatzilla@wikia/ChackJadson) has joined #wookieepedia-agricorps [15:11]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-agricorps +o ChackJadson by chanserv [15:12]	<ChackJadson>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Second_Battle_of_Abridon [15:12]	<ChackJadson>	:| [15:12]	<ChackJadson>	Anyway [15:12]	<ChackJadson>	Because of the recent CSWE entry, the article needs to be sourced per WP:S. JangFett (Talk) 01:29, June 16, 2010 (UTC) [15:12]	<ChackJadson>	* Note that this article is also missing a BTS. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 00:51, June 19, 2010 (UTC) [15:12]	<Darth_Burger>	<Darth_Burger> Do you want to host the rest of the meeting, Chack, now that you're here? [15:12]	<Darth_Burger>	|<-- ChackJadson has left freenode (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:12]	<Darth_Burger>	<GrandMoffTranner> I guess not. :p [15:12]	<Darth_Burger>	<Darth_Burger> I guess that's a no :P [15:12]	<ChackJadson>	haha [15:12]	<Darth_Burger>	Are you doing it now? [15:12]	<ChackJadson>	I said ye [15:12]	<ChackJadson>	s [15:12]	<Darth_Burger>	ok [15:12]	<ChackJadson>	[16:10] <ChackJadson> I can, sure [15:12]	<ChackJadson>	[16:11] <ChackJadson> Ok, next item after Ordo [15:12]	<ChackJadson>	[16:11] [ERROR] Connection to irc://freenode/ (irc://irc.freenode.net/) reset. [Help] [15:12]	<ChackJadson>	Weird :P [15:12]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Yeah, we didn't get that. [15:12]	<Darth_Burger>	<Darth_Burger> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Second_Battle_of_Abridon [15:12]	<Darth_Burger>	<Darth_Burger> Second Battle of Abridon—Because of the recent CSWE entry, the article needs to be sourced per WP:S. JangFett (Talk) 01:29, June 16, 2010 (UTC) [15:12]	<Darth_Burger>	<Darth_Burger> * Note that this article is also missing a BTS. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 00:51, June 19, 2010 (UTC) [15:12]	<Darth_Burger>	<Darth_Burger> Absentees vote probe [15:12]	<Darth_Burger>	<GrandMoffTranner> Probify. [15:12]	<Darth_Burger>	-->| ChackJadson (~chatzilla@wikia/ChackJadson) has joined #wookieepedia-agricorps [15:12]	<Darth_Burger>	=-= Mode #wookieepedia-agricorps +o ChackJadson by chanserv [15:13]	<Darth_Burger>	That was where we were at [15:13]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Anyway, we established to probe the battle. [15:13]	<ChackJadson>	heh [15:13]	<ChackJadson>	Ok, I vote probe too, FWIW [15:13]	<Darth_Burger>	I vote probe as well [15:13]	<ChackJadson>	Next item, now [15:13]	<ChackJadson>	Lando Calrissian—update tag. CC7567 (talk) 02:06, June 16, 2010 (UTC) [15:13]	<ChackJadson>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lando_Calrissian [15:13]	<ChackJadson>	Jon said he'll try to get to it but I vote probe [15:13]	<Darth_Burger>	Probe [15:13]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Probe. [15:13]	<ChackJadson>	If he gets to it,g reat, then we don't kill it [15:14]	<ChackJadson>	If not, kill it later [15:14]	<Darth_Burger>	Absentees vote probe all around [15:14]	<ChackJadson>	Cool, he's probed [15:14]	<Darth_Burger>	we did Thesme already, btw [15:14]	<Darth_Burger>	it was probed [15:14]	<ChackJadson>	Ok, [15:16]	<Darth_Burger>	Still with us? [15:16]	<Darth_Burger>	I'm guessing Chack is having trouble again, so I'll move on for now [15:17]	<Darth_Burger>	he can take over if he returns [15:17]	<Darth_Burger>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Apatros [15:17]	<Darth_Burger>	# Apatros—update tag for The Essential Atlas. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 00:53, June 19, 2010 (UTC) [15:17]	<Darth_Burger>	* The 1,003 BBY date mentioned in the article is also likely wrong. --Imperialles 17:26, June 25, 2010 (UTC) [15:17]	<Darth_Burger>	All absentees vote probe [15:17]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Probe. [15:17]	<Darth_Burger>	Probe [15:17]	<Darth_Burger>	Apatros probed. [15:17]	<Darth_Burger>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kaleb_Darme [15:18]	<Darth_Burger>	Kaleb Darme—Underlinking, intro needs expanding, it has a ref note in the infobox. Per WP:S, it must be sourced. JangFett (Talk) 01:42, June 21, 2010 (UTC) [15:18]	<Darth_Burger>	all absentees vote probe [15:18]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Probe that one, too. [15:18]	<Darth_Burger>	I'm not sure WP:S requires full referencing in this case, however. [15:18]	<Darth_Burger>	This is kind of an odd exception to the rule [15:18]	|<--	ChackJadson has left freenode (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [15:18]	<Darth_Burger>	it /can/ be sourced, probably wouldn't hurt [15:18]	<Darth_Burger>	but I don't think that should be left as a requirement [15:19]	<Darth_Burger>	but it should be mentioned at any rate [15:19]	<GrandMoffTranner>	I suppose. [15:19]	<Darth_Burger>	Kaleb Darme probed, anyway [15:19]	<Darth_Burger>	someone else can figure it out [15:19]	<Darth_Burger>	Last one [15:19]	<Darth_Burger>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gor [15:19]	<Darth_Burger>	Gor - Update, assuming this is correct. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:51, June 25, 2010 (UTC) [15:20]	<Darth_Burger>	this: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Gor&diff=3157334&oldid=3151435 [15:20]	<Darth_Burger>	Applicable absentees vote probe, since it was a last minute addition [15:20]	<Darth_Burger>	as do I [15:20]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Yep, probe that. [15:20]	<Darth_Burger>	Gor probed. [15:20]	<Darth_Burger>	That is it for agenda items [15:20]	<Darth_Burger>	and there is nothing left on the maintenance page [15:21]	<Darth_Burger>	do you have any concerns for us, Tranner? :P [15:21]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Yes. Chack needs to fix his internet. [15:21]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Other than that, no. [15:21]	<Darth_Burger>	Noted. [15:21]	<Darth_Burger>	Meeting 23 is hereby adjourned.