Talk:MC80 Home One type Star Cruiser

Battleship? MC80a? Sources?
I am not trying to start an argument, but I would like to see the source for [i]Home One[/i] being a MC80a, the source for the MC80a being classified a "battleship", and the source for it being officially 3800 meters, which despite what it appears to be on the film has never been confirmed or clarified by LFL. If I do not see the actual sources for this, I will argue that it should be deleted. Putting the whole "largest of the Rebel Star Cruisers" quote from the novel aside (since Rebel Star Cruiser was used at the time to describe numerous Rebel ships. This was before the Mon Cal cruiser was classified by WEG, IIRC), I need to see some sources. At the moment I feel that this is full of speculation and should be deleted, but I am open to discussing this before I render judgement. 71.141.246.97 19:52, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Crap, that was me. I was not logged on. :-P AdmiralNick22 19:53, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Did you even look at the "Sources" section? The Rebel Alliance Scrapbook has a little note next to it that says "First identified as a battleship". Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:55, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I would like to see the quote Jack. Furthermore, I want to see the exact quote that says Home One is a MC80a battleship. I have never seen that before. If it exists, great. But I need to see it. It is foolish to just assume it says that. Many fans tend to interpet info for Home One. For a topic as heated as the size/ckassification of Home One, it is totally warranted to ask for actual quotes. AdmiralNick22 01:24, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * You might want to ask VT-16, then. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:00, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I have left him the question on his talk page. Hopefully he will provide me with the quotes. It may be something new. But, it is always proper to check sources. Too many Wookieepedians take what they see in articles as canon, forgetting that people and sources can be wrong or presented incorrectly to show a viewpoint. (Not a dig at you VT-16, just a general statement about what I have seen on the Wookiee) AdmiralNick22 13:15, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * See my talk page for the answers. VT-16 13:27, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you, VT. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:37, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Continued from userpage
Since AdmNick22 is acting strange and wants to delete this for no reason, I'll continue the argument here and not on my userpage:

'Fine. Going by this thought pattern, is there a source in the movie, novelization, or script that says "Home One is a MC80a battleship". Because, if there isn't, the classification is just supposition. Now, you site the scrap book as the source for Home One being a MC80a battleship. Can you show me the quote for this? As for the illustration in SOTG, where does it say it is Home One? I have that RPG book. All I see it a picture of a unclassifed rear portion of a Mon Cal designed warship? What is your source for it being Home One? Furthermore, who is to say that the pic is not of a Viscount or Mediator?'

The RA Scrapbook clearly states the Home One is a battleship. B-A-T-T-L-E-S-H-I-P. The only shape that we've seen of the Mon Cal vessels have either been variants of the Liberty (which are all relatively flat) or the Home One, which have sylinder-shapes with engines on the sides, rather than in the back. I've not read much of NJO era stuff, so I don't know if these vessels correspond to that figure as well. I just used that as an example, there's plenty more where that came from. I think there was an X-wing comic which had the HO itself above a Dreadnaught-class cruiser, and it was at least four times as long (2,400m).

'Again, I bring up why we can't let the novelization quote about "largest of the Rebel Star Cruisers" mean it is bigger than all other Mon Cal cruisers. Rebel Star Cruiser is not specfically stated in the novelization to refer specifically to Mon Cal cruisers. In fact, the novelization only mentions one type of ship specifically being Calamarian- tankers. So, if I understand correctly, you are basing this article on the fact Home One looks larger in the movies? Even though Leeland Chee of LFL said that there has been no ruling yet on Home One's size?'

The movie-related written sources called it the largest of the Rebel Star Cruisers. Talking about the ship, not other Mon Cal vessels.

The Chee quote is precisely the reason why 1,200m is not reliable, if that was LFL policy, Chee would have said so and been done with it.

You're making alot of assumptions, while I've provided sources prior to even starting this article. You want the article deleted based on your gut feeling? Tough luck. VT-16 01:31, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Good lord... Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 02:12, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Why be rude VT-16? Is it not warranted to have a discussion? As for assumtions, that depends on a persons point of view. The Wookieepedia is full of users have discussion on talk pages. Why should this article be any different? AdmiralNick22 02:37, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Why can't you just accept the sources he's given? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 02:38, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
 * You just sounded alot more hostile on my user talk page than you did here, it sounded as if you had made up your mind and wasn't actually expecting any sources. :/ VT-16 08:53, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
 * It does seem like that. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 13:39, 23 September 2006 (UTC)