Wookieepedia:AgriCorps/Log/2008 November 2

[15:01]		MEETIN' TIME [15:01]	* Graestan	loggings [15:01]		perfect timing [15:01]		Welcome, my very special super bestfriends [15:01]		I bid you all dark greetings [15:01]		To Meeting Two of the AgriCorps [15:02]		We have more than three members, this time [15:02]	=-=	Darthchristian is now known as DC [15:02]		"Articles for removal. As discussed previously, these are already considered to be on probation, and will potentially be removed at this meeting pending votes, or hopefully a magical Force sprite will fix them all and we can have root beer and potato salad instead. " [15:02]		No sprites [15:03]		Your Honor, I move for a recess. [15:03]		No editors either [15:03]		These articles are dead to me [15:03]		WAIT [15:03]		Greyman just IMed me and will sign on in a sec [15:03]		We have to wait for him? [15:03]	-->|	Grey-man has joined #wookieepedia-agricorps [15:03]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-agricorps +o Grey-man by chanserv [15:04]	* Tommy9281	is chillin in the shadows [15:04]		Greyman. [15:04]		sorry, guys...forgot about the meeting. Grae just told me :) [15:04]	<Grey-man>	hey, Tommy [15:04]	<Tommy9281>	Not so long a wait Top [15:04]	<DC>	It's the Man who is Grey! [15:04]	<Tommy9281>	anyway, lets get to business [15:04]	<CavalierOne>	Hey Grey-man [15:04]	<Grey-man>	hey, DC, Cav :) [15:04]	<Graestan>	"Articles for removal. As discussed previously, these are already considered to be on probation, and will potentially be removed at this meeting pending votes, or hopefully a magical Force sprite will fix them all and we can have root beer and potato salad instead. " [15:05]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/B-wing_starfighter [15:05]	<Tommy9281>	Kill that one [15:05]	<Graestan>	It's a right mess. [15:05]	<Toprawa>	You have my vote to kill each every one of these articles. [15:05]	<Tommy9281>	hence the "Kill that one" [15:05]	<Toprawa>	I may not always be looking athe screen [15:05]	<Grey-man>	it used to meet the standards, but not anymore...so remove [15:05]	<Tommy9281>	Ditto Top [15:05]	<CavalierOne>	Kill [15:05]	<DC>	Kill. [15:05]	<Toprawa>	But consider my vote [15:05]	<Graestan>	Death to the infidels who ride in B-wings. [15:05]	<Tommy9281>	Rather unimpressed by the lack of effort to keep their status I have been. [15:05]	<DC>	Too many sections that aren't even sourced [15:06]	<Graestan>	Luke's disheveled descendant's disheveled article: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cade_Skywalker [15:06]	<Tommy9281>	Byebyebye [15:06]	<Toprawa>	Killify [15:06]	<CavalierOne>	Oh yeah - unstable as hell for a start. [15:06]	<Grey-man>	Remove [15:06]	<Graestan>	Far too short, and also a right mess. [15:06]	<DC>	Way too broad, needs expansion, too many POV issues, quotes in the middle of sections, MoS issues [15:07]	<Graestan>	Death to the Jeedai infidel known as Cade. [15:07]	<DC>	Kill. [15:07]	<Graestan>	This horrible mess: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chalmun%27s_Cantina [15:07]	<CavalierOne>	Kill kill kill [15:07]	<Toprawa>	Hah [15:07]	<Tommy9281>	My position stands [15:07]	<Graestan>	Might as well FA "list of Jedi" [15:07]	<Toprawa>	i like bulleted lists [15:07]	<AdmirableAckbar>	I may be interested in having a go at that article some day. (not that it should be kept) [15:08]	<Graestan>	Mind you, the article needs to be there. We need the list in it. [15:08]	<Toprawa>	Duly noted. [15:08]	<Graestan>	So no one TC it :P [15:08]	<Graestan>	Death to that hive of infidels, the Cantina [15:08]	<Grey-man>	remove [15:08]	<Graestan>	Here's one that Grey or Gonk or Cav should have a go at later: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CompForce [15:09]	<Graestan>	Unsourced. [15:09]	<Tommy9281>	Interesting, but no effort put into maintaining it [15:09]	<AdmirableAckbar>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CompForce#Notes_and_references - heh [15:09]	<Graestan>	Hawr hawr hawr [15:09]	<DC>	Kill the Cantina [15:09]	<CavalierOne>	Kill [15:09]	<Graestan>	Cantina is dead [15:09]	<Graestan>	We vote on CompForce [15:10]	<Grey-man>	that's a really really old GA, one of the first, iirc. But remove it in its current state [15:10]	<Grey-man>	*for CompForce [15:10]	<CavalierOne>	That pic is dreadful ... [15:10]	<Graestan>	Poor man's stormtroopers [15:10]	<DC>	Kill Compforce [15:10]	<Tommy9281>	big wheels keep on turnin [15:10]	<Graestan>	CompForce dies. [15:10]	<Graestan>	Here's an article as bad as the haircut of its subject: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Crix_Madine [15:11]	<Graestan>	It is far too short. [15:11]	<Tommy9281>	I like Crix [15:11]	<Graestan>	It would be an FA if it was proper. [15:11]	<AdmirableAckbar>	Should be ten times as long. [15:11]	<Tommy9281>	not enough to fix it up [15:11]	<DC>	Source issues, needs expansion, no P&T [15:11]	<DC>	Kill. [15:11]	<Grey-man>	I think Havac is FA'ing it eventually [15:11]	<Grey-man>	or was it Cracken... [15:11]	<CavalierOne>	Kill [15:11]	<Grey-man>	either way, remove it [15:11]	<Graestan>	Someone get that man some hair plugs, and the article is demoted. [15:11]	<CavalierOne>	Deserves better [15:12]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Emperor%27s_Royal_Guard [15:12]	<Graestan>	Wrong image, to start with. [15:12]	<Tommy9281>	please. [15:12]	<Graestan>	That's an AOTC Red Guard. [15:12]	<DC>	And do my eyes sense a list? [15:12]	<Tommy9281>	Eyes don't sense ;) [15:12]	<DC>	They certainly don't sense a infobox :P [15:12]	<Grey-man>	remove [15:12]	<DC>	Kill [15:13]	<CavalierOne>	They do. Kill. Could be a lot better. [15:13]	<DC>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hapan [15:13]	<Graestan>	They perish with their master. [15:13]	<AdmirableAckbar>	Ew, Hapans. [15:14]	<DC>	I should've done this one when I had the chance [15:14]	<AdmirableAckbar>	It's not that bad, to be fair. [15:14]	<CavalierOne>	I just wanted to destroy something pretty ... [15:14]	<Graestan>	Poorly sourced. [15:14]	<DC>	Because I could probably fix this one up enough [15:14]	<Tommy9281>	Are you commiting yourself to it then? [15:14]	<Tommy9281>	DC? [15:14]	<DC>	yes [15:14]	<DC>	Don't kill it yet [15:15]	<Grey-man>	ok, keep on condition that DC works on it [15:15]	<Toprawa>	I vote kill, if only because this list has been on the page for a month now or whatever. [15:15]	<Graestan>	You ask that we extend its probe? [15:15]	<Grey-man>	that's my vote, anyways [15:15]	<Tommy9281>	Per Top [15:15]	<Toprawa>	With all due respect, teh chance to fix was there [15:15]	<Grey-man>	meh [15:15]	<Graestan>	Why not let it die and re-GA it, get your check-mark, DC? [15:15]	<DC>	Sure, why not [15:15]	<DC>	I Kill, I guess [15:16]	<Tommy9281>	Death is an old friend then. [15:16]	<DC>	I'll ressurect it [15:16]	<Graestan>	I vote kill on that one. Then DC will be rewarded with the check-mark. [15:16]	<DC>	It'll be the first article to be re-GA'd [15:16]	<Graestan>	o_O [15:16]	* Graestan	forgets this is all new ground [15:17]	* Tommy9281	is roasting chicken [15:17]	<Graestan>	Ant-Man: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hirog [15:17]	<Tommy9281>	I'm good on this one as well [15:17]	<Graestan>	Unsourced, no BTS, must go, IMO [15:17]	<Grey-man>	remove [15:17]	<DC>	Speaking of which, we should probably create a template for re-GA'd articles [15:17]	<Tommy9281>	One thing at a time please [15:17]	<DC>	Muahahaha [15:18]	<Graestan>	I will make one [15:18]	<DC>	this thing should be killed almost as fast as Cade [15:18]	<Graestan>	I also need to rewrite [15:18]	<Graestan>	for our purposes [15:18]	<Tommy9281>	Are we still on Hirog? [15:18]	<DC>	Definitely, but for now, per Tommy [15:18]	<AdmirableAckbar>	Is Hirog Cull's? [15:19]	<DC>	Hirog has no chance, bye bye [15:19]	<Graestan>	I think SDs [15:19]	<Graestan>	From 2006 [15:19]	<CavalierOne>	With that beret, would this be a french death? [15:19]	<AdmirableAckbar>	No, Eyrezer's. [15:19]	<AdmirableAckbar>	At least he nommed it. [15:19]	<Graestan>	What's a French death? On your knees? [15:19]	<Tommy9281>	Focus people [15:19]	<AdmirableAckbar>	Apologies for straying off topic, but I think perhaps people weren't aware of the articles on the list for de-GAing. More exposure might be prudent. [15:19]	<Tommy9281>	fellas* [15:20]	<Graestan>	If it had the template on it in the first place, in most cases for months... [15:20]	<Grey-man>	per Acky [15:20]	<Graestan>	Also, this is just the first list, which already had the template at the foundation of the AC [15:20]	<Graestan>	The next is being reviewed for probing. [15:21]	<AdmirableAckbar>	Fair enough. [15:21]	<DC>	Okay, getting back on topic [15:21]	<DC>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Human [15:21]	<Graestan>	If they wrote the article, and haven't noticed in the two months since we have been around that the template was already there, I don't think they were that committed to maintaining these particular articles [15:21]	<Toprawa>	Well, in that case, I could have added to every article [15:21]	<Grey-man>	remove Human [15:21]	<Toprawa>	I don't see what the difference is, honestly [15:21]	<Tommy9281>	mercy. [15:21]	<Toprawa>	but whatever [15:21]	<Toprawa>	keep moving [15:21]	<Grey-man>	9_9 [15:21]	<Graestan>	Human would be like 900K if it were correct. [15:21]	<Grey-man>	Tommy > Mercy for Human? [15:21]	<Grey-man>	:P [15:21]	<Toprawa>	9_9 yourself [15:22]	<Tommy9281>	no mercy for tangents [15:22]	<Graestan>	HEY [15:22]	<Graestan>	Enough. [15:22]	<Grey-man>	Toprawa > Get over it, I was speaking to Tommy [15:22]	<Grey-man>	jeez [15:22]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Orko [15:22]	<Tommy9281>	Human can bounce [15:22]	<Tommy9281>	Time-out [15:22]	<DC>	Kill all Humans [15:22]	<Tommy9281>	Are we on Human, or Orko? [15:22]	<Graestan>	Orko [15:23]	<Graestan>	Humans are all dead. [15:23]	<Tommy9281>	thank you. [15:23]	* Graestan	stiops typing suddenly [15:23]	<Tommy9281>	So is Orko. [15:23]	<DC>	Has, the head quote isn't even sourced [15:23]	<DC>	Kill [15:23]	<DC>	Ha** [15:23]	<Graestan>	Orko is messy, and I voteto kill [15:23]	<Grey-man>	Remove Orko [15:23]	<CavalierOne>	Kill [15:24]	<DC>	Orko is dead. [15:24]	<DC>	Next? [15:24]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rodian [15:24]	<Graestan>	The King of Sloppy Articles [15:24]	<AdmirableAckbar>	Isn't someone working on that? [15:24]	<CavalierOne>	Trak? [15:24]	<Graestan>	hah [15:25]	<Tommy9281>	According to the template, he is [15:25]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Rodian&action=history [15:25]	<DC>	Let Trak work on it without any distractions [15:25]	<AdmirableAckbar>	The article would need to be very very long to be comprehensive. [15:25]	<Grey-man>	I think Trak, ya [15:25]	<DC>	Kill [15:25]	<Graestan>	I say kill. [15:25]	<Grey-man>	I think she has it on a subpage of hers, though [15:25]	<CavalierOne>	Well, kill anyhoo [15:25]	<Grey-man>	so remove the actual article, for my vote [15:25]	<Graestan>	As it stands, kill. [15:25]	<Graestan>	She can FA it or whatever later. [15:25]	<Tommy9281>	Death is an old friend [15:25]	* AdmirableAckbar	removed the inuse template [15:25]	<Grey-man>	I think FA is her ultimate plan [15:26]	<DC>	Yes. [15:26]	<Tommy9281>	Because it is on a subpage doesn't mean her inuse template needs to be removed? [15:26]	<Toprawa>	Trak's been "writing" the Rodian article since Feb. [15:26]	<Tommy9281>	Ahh [15:26]	<DC>	Hold on, I'll be right back, I have to reboot my computer [15:26]	<Grey-man>	Tommy > I could be wrong about her using a subpage [15:26]	<Tommy9281>	Alright [15:26]	<Tommy9281>	Death then. [15:26]	<Graestan>	let's take a short break for DC [15:26]	<Toprawa>	Why? [15:26]	<Graestan>	Rodians are all wiped out [15:26]	<Grey-man>	either way, that shouldn't stop us from de-GA'ing it [15:26]	<Toprawa>	Keep moving. [15:26]	<Tommy9281>	True [15:27]	<AdmirableAckbar>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/User:Trak_Nar/Rodian [15:27]	|<--	DC has left irc.freenode.net ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") [15:27]	<Graestan>	let's just take a minute [15:28]	<Graestan>	this isn't an Inqmoot or Mofference [15:28]	* AdmirableAckbar	needs to wash his hair...gimme a few minutes :P [15:28]	<Graestan>	hahaha [15:28]	<Toprawa>	I have to go take a dump. It might take 20 min. [15:28]	<Grey-man>	sure [15:28]	<Toprawa>	Can you wait for me>? [15:28]	<Grey-man>	sure [15:29]	<Tommy9281>	Cool [15:29]	<Tommy9281>	I have to check the oven anyway [15:29]	<Tommy9281>	I'm back [15:30]	<Tommy9281>	Bills got scraped [15:30]	<Toprawa>	You know, I'm probably gonna have to run to the bank too. Can we resume this tomorrow? [15:30]	<Graestan>	how's that loaf coming, Tope? :P [15:30]	<Toprawa>	Well, it's kind of stuck... [15:30]	<Toprawa>	We might have to reschedule for next week sometie [15:31]	<Tommy9281>	You have to spray the pan with pam first Top [15:31]	<Graestan>	:| [15:31]	<Tommy9281>	then it won't stick [15:31]	<Graestan>	XD [15:31]	<Tommy9281>	alright, is recess over now? [15:31]	<Toprawa>	This is totally unnecessary, btw. [15:31]	<Graestan>	give him a couple more minutes [15:31]	<Toprawa>	If someone isn't here, that's not our problem. [15:31]	<Tommy9281>	lol what do we really have to do, edit wookpages? [15:32]	<Tommy9281>	we can wait a moment [15:32]	|<--	Grey-man has left irc.freenode.net ("Something, something, something Dark side...") [15:32]	<Tommy9281>	I would request such a motion were I on the phone [15:32]	<Toprawa>	Oh, shit [15:32]	-->|	Darthchristian has joined #wookieepedia-agricorps [15:32]	<Toprawa>	Now we have to wait for Grey too [15:32]	<AdmirableAckbar>	Not that I'm particularly interested, but surely it doesn't make a difference if he's here or not. [15:32]	<Graestan>	welcome back, DC [15:32]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-agricorps +v Darthchristian by chanserv [15:32]	<Toprawa>	Wait, wait, wait. [15:32]	<AdmirableAckbar>	Pretty much everything's a foregone conclusion. [15:32]	<Toprawa>	We can't start now. [15:32]	<Graestan>	Greyman left [15:32]	<Toprawa>	We have to wait for him [15:32]	<Graestan>	he let me know he was going [15:32]	<Darthchristian>	Hey all [15:33]	<Toprawa>	Even if it takes a day [15:33]	<Graestan>	ENOUGH, Tope. [15:33]	<Darthchristian>	Sorry, my comp was being a bitch and was really slow [15:33]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Seely [15:33]	<Toprawa>	I'm not continuing this meeting without him. [15:33]	<Tommy9281>	Peace then [15:33]	<Toprawa>	This is ridiculous [15:33]	<Graestan>	THis article if full of fluff--speculation and POV [15:33]	<Graestan>	No BTS [15:33]	<Tommy9281>	She's fly, but not enough to keep GA status [15:33]	<Darthchristian>	Kill. [15:33]	<Graestan>	I believe the CUSWE was used as the source for this one. [15:33]	<Graestan>	Kill. [15:34]	<AdmirableAckbar>	I suspect it's also missing info. [15:34]	<Tommy9281>	thought bomb kill [15:34]	<Graestan>	Cav? [15:35]	<Tommy9281>	Cav is unavailable at the moment [15:35]	<Tommy9281>	If you would like to leave your name and number, [15:35]	<Tommy9281>	he will get back to you at your earliest convenience. [15:35]	<Graestan>	well, Seely dies [15:35]	<Tommy9281>	lekku-clip [15:35]	<Graestan>	now, it is time to vote on what to keep and what to probe [15:35]	<Graestan>	there was a veritable gold rush to get articles on this new list [15:36]	<CavalierOne>	Sorry - was working on an article during the recess [15:36]	<Graestan>	First up: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Nihilus [15:36]	<Tommy9281>	Prob [15:36]	<Tommy9281>	e* [15:36]	<CavalierOne>	Probe. Maybe with Hydro's recent Sion nom, someone will look at this one. [15:36]	<Graestan>	Probation, and I foresee this one's death in a month's time. [15:36]	<Tommy9281>	I do also [15:36]	<AdmirableAckbar>	Hydro wants to do this one also, I believe. [15:36]	<Graestan>	It's a vandal and idiot anon magnet. [15:37]	<Tommy9281>	Hydro's got admin power. He can handle those minor stings. [15:37]	<Tommy9281>	if he's gonna work on it [15:37]	<Darthchristian>	It doesn't need much to keep it;s status [15:37]	<Toprawa>	If Hydro wants to work on it, he can work on it [15:37]	<Graestan>	But probation, folks? Is that alright? [15:37]	<Toprawa>	In the mean time, probe [15:37]	<Darthchristian>	Probe [15:37]	<Tommy9281>	yes [15:37]	<Graestan>	It's probed. [15:37]	<Toprawa>	I'm not going to keep something just because someone /might/ work on it [15:37]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rainboh [15:38]	<Toprawa>	That's silly [15:38]	<Graestan>	Simply too short. [15:38]	<Tommy9281>	No onesaid to [15:38]	<Toprawa>	Not long enough [15:38]	* AdmirableAckbar	was not suggesting keep it [15:38]	<Tommy9281>	ditto [15:38]	<Toprawa>	Probe [15:38]	<Graestan>	probe, won't ever be long enough [15:38]	<Tommy9281>	ditto [15:38]	<Toprawa>	No, it wont [15:38]	<Toprawa>	Otherwise I would kill [15:38]	<Darthchristian>	if Hyrdo doesn;t fix it, I will [15:38]	<Toprawa>	But formalities are formalities [15:38]	<Tommy9281>	Topic [15:38]	<AdmirableAckbar>	No grandfather rule on this one? 9_9 [15:38]	<Toprawa>	haha [15:38]	<Toprawa>	NO [15:38]	<Darthchristian>	No way [15:38]	<Graestan>	rofl [15:39]	<Darthchristian>	If I were in the Inq, I would vote kill on sorrow [15:39]	<Darthchristian>	As much as I love the character [15:39]	<CavalierOne>	I hate to do it, but kill. [15:39]	<Tommy9281>	Speaking of which, [15:39]	<Darthchristian>	Kill [15:39]	<Toprawa>	Are we creating a precedent here? [15:39]	<Tommy9281>	for? [15:39]	<Toprawa>	Formality dictates we should probe first [15:39]	<Graestan>	it can only be probed now [15:39]	<Graestan>	sadly [15:39]	<Graestan>	XD [15:40]	<Toprawa>	Yeah [15:40]	<Darthchristian>	Meh... [15:40]	<Tommy9281>	Probe then. Next? [15:40]	<Darthchristian>	Wait. [15:40]	<Tommy9281>	DC, for the love of good gravy, keep up! [15:40]	<Toprawa>	Seriously [15:40]	<Graestan>	:S [15:40]	<Toprawa>	Close #wookieepedia if you have to [15:40]	<Darthchristian>	If there's no possible way to make it long enough, why waste our time on it? [15:40]	<Graestan>	You love good gravy, then, I take it? [15:41]	<Tommy9281>	I do [15:41]	<Tommy9281>	from scratch [15:41]	<Toprawa>	Formalities are formalities [15:41]	<Toprawa>	Maybe there /is/ a way [15:41]	<Toprawa>	We dont know [15:41]	<Toprawa>	We just follow rules. [15:41]	<Graestan>	We cannot kill outright. It is our informal agreement with the user base. [15:41]	<Darthchristian>	Bah. [15:41]	<Tommy9281>	Indeed. [15:41]	<Tommy9281>	Probe [15:41]	<Graestan>	Otherwise they can call us tyrants, write Pfluegerian tirades. [15:41]	<Darthchristian>	It's a stupid rule then [15:41]	<Tommy9281>	It will die. [15:41]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Separatist_Droid_Army [15:41]	<Tommy9281>	From a certain point of view, DC [15:41]	<Toprawa>	So short [15:41]	<Toprawa>	Painfully short [15:41]	<Tommy9281>	I like the droid army [15:41]	<Graestan>	This is another list-type article that is great to have but cannot be a GA or FA [15:42]	<Tommy9281>	per Graestan [15:42]	<CavalierOne>	Probe. Could be a lot better. [15:42]	<Graestan>	Probe [15:42]	<Darthchristian>	So many unused sources [15:42]	<Darthchristian>	Probe [15:42]	<Toprawa>	Unused sources don't necessarily mean anything [15:42]	<Toprawa>	It's just that all sources are used where applicable [15:42]	<Tommy9281>	Sources, or references? [15:43]	<Toprawa>	You can have 15 sources that all have the same info [15:43]	<Toprawa>	And you only need to reference one of them [15:43]	<Darthchristian>	…be sourced with all available sources and appearances. [15:43]	<Tommy9281>	I was under the impression that all sources were required [15:43]	<Darthchristian>	Rule 3 fellows [15:43]	<Toprawa>	Per what I just said, [15:43]	<Toprawa>	You don't need to reference every single source [15:43]	<Toprawa>	Just those with new info [15:43]	<Graestan>	Rule 3: Protection from the Quartering of Soldiers. [15:44]	<Darthchristian>	That should be more clear then [15:44]	<Tommy9281>	Are we still on Dooku's droid army? [15:44]	<Toprawa>	It's common practice [15:44]	<Darthchristian>	Because I make tons of objections regarding Rule 3 [15:45]	<Toprawa>	You really shouldn't, at least not in that sense [15:45]	<Tommy9281>	Ditto Top [15:45]	<Toprawa>	That rule's wording is kind of ambiguous [15:45]	<Toprawa>	I could apply it to mean that the Source list needs to be complete [15:45]	<AdmirableAckbar>	For good reason. [15:45]	<Tommy9281>	That is what I was under the impression of [15:45]	<AdmirableAckbar>	It makes sense to tell people they have to include info from all sources even if they don't have to. [15:45]	<AdmirableAckbar>	Means they'll check all the sources. [15:45]	<Tommy9281>	that a complete source list was a requirement [15:46]	<Toprawa>	I expect them to anyways, of course [15:46]	<Toprawa>	But there you go [15:46]	<Darthchristian>	Okay, droid army probed, next? [15:46]	<Tommy9281>	whatever [15:46]	<Toprawa>	Tommy> It is, more or less [15:46]	<Toprawa>	No one's giong to say that's not a viable objection [15:46]	<Toprawa>	but I don't know if there's any rule stating it, except that one [15:46]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Neimoidian [15:46]	<CavalierOne>	Probity probe [15:46]	<Graestan>	Article not sourced. [15:46]	<Graestan>	Probe. [15:46]	<Tommy9281>	probe. [15:47]	<Darthchristian>	Probe [15:47]	<Tommy9281>	Majority rules? [15:47]	<Graestan>	yep [15:47]	<Toprawa>	Always [15:47]	<Graestan>	probed [15:47]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Eol_Sha_lichen [15:47]	<Toprawa>	Except in Russia [15:47]	<Darthchristian>	Ya. [15:47]	<Tommy9281>	next! [15:47]	<Graestan>	too short, probe [15:47]	<Tommy9281>	probe [15:47]	<Darthchristian>	Probe [15:47]	<Toprawa>	Probe [15:48]	<CavalierOne>	Probe [15:48]	<Tommy9281>	Next! [15:48]	<Darthchristian>	I would say kill outright, but its the same as Rainboh [15:48]	<Graestan>	Laze Loneozner – missing Galaxies info which, in true Sony fashion, screws up everything, and the author doesn't want to mess with it. Also, intro's too short and almost no refs. -- Ozzel 20:46, 11 October 2008 (UTC) [15:48]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Laze_Loneozner [15:48]	<CavalierOne>	Probe. [15:48]	<Tommy9281>	probe [15:48]	<Toprawa>	Probe [15:48]	<Darthchristian>	Not even sourced [15:48]	<Darthchristian>	Probe [15:49]	<Tommy9281>	... [15:49]	<Graestan>	apparently Cull talked to Oz about it [15:49]	<Graestan>	probe [15:49]	<Darthchristian>	Nect! [15:49]	<Darthchristian>	\Next** [15:49]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chevin [15:49]	<Tommy9281>	Eh [15:50]	* Graestan	looks at Acky :P [15:50]	<CavalierOne>	Probe [15:50]	<Toprawa>	Proboscis [15:50]	<Tommy9281>	Parole [15:50]	<Darthchristian>	Is section ref'ing that bad of a thing? [15:50]	* AdmirableAckbar	shrugs [15:50]	<Graestan>	What do you want us to do with it? [15:50]	<AdmirableAckbar>	kill it [15:50]	<Darthchristian>	No probe [15:50]	<Graestan>	Section reffing is against MOS [15:50]	<Darthchristian>	keep [15:51]	<Tommy9281>	Sofixit, DC [15:51]	<Toprawa>	Why keep? [15:51]	<Graestan>	Probe, in case someone else wants to be a hero [15:51]	<Darthchristian>	It's pretty easily fixed anyways [15:51]	<Tommy9281>	Sofixit, DC [15:51]	<AdmirableAckbar>	the article's not comprehensive enough anyway [15:51]	<Toprawa>	That's what I'm thinking [15:51]	<Toprawa>	It's kind of short [15:51]	<Graestan>	Per the author of the article [15:51]	<Tommy9281>	probe [15:51]	* AdmirableAckbar	didn't write most it, actually. I just spruced it up a tad. [15:51]	<Graestan>	your girl Jk19bby did? [15:51]	<Darthchristian>	I'll fix it later [15:51]	<AdmirableAckbar>	SillyDan. [15:51]	<Toprawa>	"Ohh, it's no nice to be with you..." [15:52]	<Graestan>	probe is being extended REST OF MEETING OFF-RECORD FOR NEW MEMBER CONSIDERATION