Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Sha'a Gi


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Sha'a Gi

 * Nominated by: Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 02:04, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Zoinks! Hey Scoob, old buddy, old pal!

(5 Inqs/5 Users/10 Total)
Support
 * 1) Girl you're my angel, you're my darling angel. Closer than my peeps you are to me! Menkooroo 04:20, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Look, Master Barrek! Grievous' mask was a disguise for Cavalier One, the owner of the theme park. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 07:04, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) He couldn't unmask his foe this time. ~ SavageBob 16:18, January 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) Jedi Kasra (comlink) 21:05, January 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5)  Grunny  ( Talk ) 09:31, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 12:16, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) Fixed some links, but good work, Cav. Xd  10:18, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * 8) &mdash;  Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 15:09, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * 9)  CC7567  (talk) 17:23, February 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * 10) --Eyrezer 07:57, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) http://objection.ytmnd.com
 * 2) * Yo! I know that most of the BTS info is self-referencing, but the lack of sourcing in the paragraph leaves some confusion as to where the info: "but soon received the name "Sha'a Gi" in reference to Tartakovsky's comment when StarWars.com added the character to their Databank." Where is that info from? It's not from the databank --- is it speculation that the name was given specifically in reference to Genndy's comment in the audio commentary? Or does Genndy specifically mention the name "Sha'a Gi" in the commentary? If it is speculation, it should be reworded --- the connection is pretty obvious, but it could still be reworded to avoid speculative wording. If I'm wrong, and it's not speculation, adding sources to BTS would clear up the confusion.
 * 3) **Reworded to remove speculation.
 * 4) ***So sorry to keep objecting --- but you say "they realized that the voice didn't fit and became "too goofy."" after you've only referred to a single person (Genndy). Instead of "they", can you say either "he" or something like "The Clone Wars team"? Menkooroo 19:56, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) ****Changed "they" to "Tartaokovsky". - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 19:44, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) * Final sentence of the opening blurb --- before you mention that Gi rushed out into the open, can you mention that the Jedi survivors were hiding?
 * 7) **Added.
 * 8) * Make sure all instances of "Master" are capitalized. Menkooroo 08:40, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 9) **Corrected. - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 14:13, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 10) * Final paragraph of Biography: Two consecutive sentences read "Barrak managed". Can you change the wording up? Menkooroo 16:13, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11) **Eliminated the second "managed". - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 19:44, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 12) Scooby-Doo and the Farlstendoiro objections
 * 13) * Semi-objection: Could you get an image of Gi from the game Battle for the Republic? I think it could be useful to illustrate BtS (and, if the article is too image-crowded, I don't feel Barrek's image is really needed).
 * 14) **Not really. I don't have the game, and since it's a cell phone game, I would question the quality of the image I could get from it when decent quality images from the primary source material are available.
 * 15) * Please source "voiced by John DiMaggio" (Clone Wars or IMDB or something).
 * 16) **Sourced to the Clone Wars DVD.
 * 17) * a veteran voice actor probably best known for the role of Bender on Futurama. Is "probably" O.R.? If not, can that be sourced? Personally, I would restrict the text to "voiced by veteran voice actor John DiMaggio (Futurama)" or mention that he was awarded by his role of Bender (source: IMDB), but the current wording, I feel it's out of place in this article.
 * 18) **Reworded slightly to remove possible OR and speculation. - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 19:44, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 19) *And I would have more objections if it wasn't for you meddling kids! --Skippy Farlstendoiro 15:24, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 20) **Good one, Raggy. Hehehehehehe. - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 19:44, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 21) Prepare to be savaged...
 * 22) * Can you reduce some of the redundancy in adjacent sentences? For example, "discovered by Jedi Master Daakman Barrek. Barrek..." and "trained as a Jedi. During his training..." We also have two close-by sentences that begin with "During his training..."
 * 23) **Rewritten and broken up.
 * 24) *" the martial skills" sounds confusing. Which martial skills? I'd ditch the article or specify which ones you mean.
 * 25) **Martial is the word used in the source, but it is not defined. Martial is related to military and combat arts (as in martial arts, martial law), and as such is a perfectly acceptable word to avoid the repetition of "combat skills" that I use in the bio.
 * 26) *** I was objecting to the definite article the; "martial skills" is fine, but by saying "During his training, Gi was less than proficient in the martial skills," I'm wondering which martial skills thanks to the the. It would read fine without the the, or else, you could add a bit more: "the martial skills of the Order..." or something. ~ SavageBob 16:00, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * 27) ****Ah, my misunderstanding. I thought you were objecting to the word "martial". Added to as per your suggestion. - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 09:20, January 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * 28) * Normally, words like "master" would not be capitalized unless being used as a direct title ("Master Kenobi said" vs. "his master said..."). Are there any written sources you can check to make sure that it should be capitalized in all instances? Otherwise, looks solid! ~ SavageBob 04:55, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * 29) **To be honest, I'm not sure on this one. Master refers in all cases to "Jedi Master", a formal, capitalised title. However, when used as anything other than a direct title, it might have to be de-capped. A similar thing occurs with titles like general or admiral&mdash;they are only capitalised when refering specifically to the title holder - eg Admiral Ackbar - but decapped when refering to the title, as in Ackbar was an admiral. However, Jedi Master, from what I've seen, is always capitalised, even when its not refering to a specific holder and as such may be exempt from this. Menkooroo's comment above about capitalising all "Masters" led me to the conclusion that capping all Masters was possibly correct. Anyone else have a take on this? - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 14:23, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * 30) ***I'm probably wrong. But I have seen others object to FAN's and ask for all instances of "Master" to be capitalized... Menkooroo 15:03, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * 31) ****My guess is that SW style would be to capitalize it in cases where it's part of the two-part "Jedi Master" but decap it when it's used in the English sense of a master over a servant. But I'll strike for now; this is probably something that needs a CT to resolve. ~ SavageBob 16:00, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * 32) From the Moffship Crashed Assault Ship of Grand Moff Tranner:
 * 33) * "Taking Gi as his Padawan, Barrek accompanied him to Coruscant to be trained as a Jedi." - this almost seems like Barrek was going to be trained as a Jedi as well. Additionally, I think that the accompanying sentence in the bio should be slightly reworded as well, just to avoid any possible confusion.
 * 34) **Reworded both instances. Hoepfully should be good now :)
 * 35) *That's all. Nice job, as always. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 21:19, January 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * 36) **Many thanks for the review. - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 09:05, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * 37) Attack of the Clone
 * 38) * As far as I can remember, the episode isn't a source for the date.
 * 39) **Eh, tricky one this. We know Hypori has to be 22 BBY since Grievous made his public "debut" at the battle. Proving it is another thing. I've removed the date for now until I can find a workaround for the source.
 * 40) ***...could you please reiterate or better explain the issue here? Numerous sources, including The New Essential Chronology, place the battle at four months ABG, so I'm not sure why it isn't canon to list Gi's death date as such. It's just that the episode isn't a source for the date, that's all.  CC7567  (talk) 21:45, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * 41) ****Ah, my mistake. I was under the impression that the TCW series had effectively caused any established dates to be called into question. A little confusion on the issue on my part, sorry. Readded, sourced to the NEC. - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 09:10, February 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * 42) *****Well, technically, The Clone Wars: Wild Space has screwed up Grievous's first appearance, but that's a story for another day. :P  CC7567  (talk) 17:23, February 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * 43) * "Gi's martial skills were limited, although he had enough training to wield a lightsaber." Shouldn't this be in the P&A, not the P&T?
 * 44) **It's already in there, technically, so I removed the double reference.
 * 45) * Can something be said of his green lightsaber, whether in the Bio, the P&A, or both?
 * 46) **Mention added to the P&T.
 * 47) *Nice work otherwise.  CC7567  (talk) 08:38, February 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * 48) **Thanks. Is he being claimed for WP:TCW :P - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 11:43, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * 49) ***Not really, unfortunately. :P  CC7567  (talk) 21:45, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * 50) Pasta!
 * 51) * There is a fact tag in the infobox&hellip;
 * 52) **In my defence, that was not there until CC added it ... :P See above. - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 11:43, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * 53) *That's it, I think. &mdash; Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 20:22, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Comments
 * 1) Holy f*ck! I had no idea that there was a silent "n" at the end of Muunilist. Er... Muunilinst. Seriously, I had no idea. Menkooroo 04:20, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) *You're not the only one..;-) Xd1358  Talk 19:24, January 25, 2010 (UTC)