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Revanchist (faction)
Hey Kasra. I'm going to give you a preliminary account of the issues I believe you should deal with. I can take a look at the article again after you have fixed them up, in order to polish it up for the GAN page.
 * First item is that I think you need to turn the members section into something that is seen with the Black Vulkars. The Key members would be Revan, Alek, and the Jedi Exile.
 * In the year 3,964 BBY, the Revanchists, who were also known as the Jedi Crusaders,[6] began to come together and scout the looming Mandalorian threat as the Mandalorian and Republic fleets battled ineffectually within the neutral Republic frontier. Revan began to take his followers to investigate the Mandalorian activities on the Outer Rim, without the Jedi High Council's support. - There is redundant information in these two sentences, and they could probably be combined or reworded.
 * When Alek met Zayne Carrick that first time, it really isn't all that pertinent as to what Alek thought of Carrick. What is important is what Carrick's masters thought of the Revanchists worrying about the Mandalorians. That needs to be included.
 * In issue six, the news or something similar, talks about how Jedi have left to fight in the "crusade," and that many of them are already missing in action. You should add this in.
 * In issue eight, one of the Jedi at Flashpoint talks about how they were ambushed at Suurja, and that that planet was the first "outing" for the Crusaders. There is nothing in there about Revan leaving to take a look at Onderon and Dxun.
 * It is in issue nine that we learn that Revan left them to go to Onderon and Dxun. Also it appears that the Revanchists were kidnapped before the battle. Please double check this. There is an important scene between Revan and the High Council in this issue that I feel needs to be detailed a bit more.
 * In issue ten there is more information about Revan having a vision of what the Mandalorians are doing and going to investigate it. He also has some plans for the Crusaders and they will follow him through the tough times. You need to detail some of this a bit more.
 * I don't see them mentioned in issue 14. Please double check this.
 * Issue fifteen talks about the Crusaders scouting around the lines. Also remember that it is probable that the Exile was a scout on Serroco. In KotOR II, Atton Rand mentions she was there. This may be useful to add in somehow.
 * Issue nineteen, Alek talks about how some of them had visions about Adasca's exogorths. Plus there is some more details about the meeting on the Legacy to be found in issue twenty as well. This needs to be detailed a bit more.
 * You need to detail the information from Galactic Republic Defense Ministry Daily Brief KD0092 a bit more.
 * The Council approved his motion ordering the recall, or even detention, of the Revanchists.[14] After Alek, who was going by the alias "Malak" in order to avoid the warrant for his arrest,[15] testified against the Covenant on behalf of the fugitive Jedi Zayne Carrick, he was sent back to Revan and his Jedi with a final warning. - This needs more context. These sentences don't connect to each other very much.
 * I think you need to talk a bit about how the Jedi Council warned them that they would become corrupted and end up like the Mandalorian aggressors.
 * Eventually, in the year 3,961 BBY, Revan found an ancient Star Map on the Wookiee homeworld of Kashyyyk that was left by the Rakata, an ancient civilization that ruled the galaxy approximately 20,000 years earlier. He then discovered a planet called Malachor V - What does this Star Map have to do with Malachor V? These pieces of information need to connect to each other.
 * OK, start with these changes, and I'll look over the article again. I have changed and added some appearances. Make sure that you have all of them. Let me know when you are ready to have me look at the article again. Cylka  -talk- 20:48, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Duel on the Star Forge
OK, Kasra, here is my preliminary review of Duel on the Star Forge.
 * I would add in a small Prelude section before the Final confrontation section. It can give a brief explanation of the search for the Star Forge, Revan arriving on the Star Forge with his companions aboard the Ebon Hawk, meeting the other Jedi, redeeming Bastila, etc. This should really only be a paragraph long. This section is needed to give context for the last sentence of Malak's death.
 * The first paragraph of the Final confrontation section is all one sentence and needs to be broken up. You also need to add in a bit more context for Revan and Malak. Bastila is cut out of here, and added to the Prelude since she is not important to the duel.
 * Revan's arrival was unexpected, - For whom was it unexpected? Malak only, or others as well?
 * After Revan got past the droids, Malak realized that Revan had become much stronger than he ever was as the Dark Lord. Malak was tempted to try and capture his former Master alive, so that he could break him, and make Revan become his own apprentice. However, Revan said that he would never turn to the dark side again - I would explain this a bit in that this was a conversation between them as they were preparing to fight.
 * He then used the Force to drain the life-force from one of eight captive Jedi that he captured from the Jedi Enclave on Dantooine, when he and his forces attacked the planet. Revan destroyed the other stasis pods, letting the other Jedi become one with the Force. - This needs to be explained a lot more. Most readers will have not played the game, so they will not understand all that went on here.
 * I would expand the Aftermath section a bit more in regards to Revan and Bastila's roles and Revan's eventual departure. I would, however, cut out the whole second paragraph dealing with Traya and the Korriban academy since you will need to give a great deal of context to that and that will likely double the article. The events of KotOR are not vital to this duel.
 * You gave the cheat code for the Xbox version of the game, so you also need to give the cheat for the PC version, since it is present there as well. I don't exactly remember the cheat, but I'm sure that you could easily find it. I would cite the cheats to MobyGames or something similar.
 * Please let me know when you have taken care of these and I will go through the article again. It is looking good, Kasra. Cylka  -talk- 12:34, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Revan Intro Changes
I'm going to edit the Revan intro again at some point. For courtesy's sake (btw, if you had a problem with the intro couldn't you have brought it up in the three days in which it sat on the discussion page?) here's a breakdown of my thoughts regarding your changes:

What I'll Keep
 * 1) "helped defeat the Sith Empire" is more accurate than "saw the Sith Empire defeated". A worthy change. Thanks.
 * 2) "a Jedi strike team led by Shan boarded Revan's flagship and battled its way to the Dark Lord" Is more accurate and informative than what I had down originally. Good job.
 * 3) I got the dashes wrong inbetween "galaxy at large", thanks for fixing that.
 * 4) Republic commander Carth Onasi - Might be better dropping the "Republic" (just for structure's sake) but I wasn't aware/had forgotten he was a commander, so nice job adding it in.
 * 5) "the Jedi Council on Dantooine retrained Revan and charged him with discovering the source of Malak's fleet." I prefer the way you worded this overall. I would put "colossal" back in front of "Malak's fleet" however, though that's more of a stylistic thing.
 * 6) Didn't realise I'd linked Star Maps twice -- thanks for changing that.
 * 7) Linking "killing" to "skirmish aboard the Leviathan" was a good call, I think.
 * 8) Linking "a year later" to 3,955 BBY. I should have done that. Oops.
 * 9) In fact, all the links to specific articles I wasn't aware of were good calls. Thanks.

What I'll keep if you can prove it
 * 1) Malak fired upon Revan from aboard the Leviathan -- where is this stated? The KotOR CG? It's certainly not in the game.  I wasn't aware we knew from which ship Malak launched his assault. You may be right but I'd like to see a source.

What I'll Remove/Change
 * 1) Species/Gender is unnecessary. That's what the infobox is for. It's certainly not a requirement for an FA, see Tycho Celchu or Kol Skywalker for example. All you've done is make the sentence longer for no good reason.
 * 2) "The Republic fleet under his direct control": We're specifically told in KotOR I that Revan had only a third of the (entire) Republic Navy/Fleet under his *direct* control, even though he was in overall command of everything by the end of the war.
 * 3) Echo: "Revan tracked down ancient Rakatan Star Maps in pursuit of the Star Forge, a superweapon of the Rakatan Infinite Empire." The second "Rakatan" is unnecessary. Try saying the above out loud, too. It sounds weird.
 * 4) "Jedi Knight Bastila Shan". Bastila was a Padawan during Revan's reign (and for at least some of Malak's), not a Jedi Knight. "Padawan Shan you are already familiar with" - Zhar I specified Padawan for a reason. It's dumb, sure, but that's what the game says.
 * 5) Echo: "Caught by surprise, Revan was incapacitated by Malak's attack and then captured by the strike team while Malak, believing his Master destroyed, seized control of the Sith Empire." Two "Malaks" in one sentence looks bad, bland and boring. You've made this sentence worse for no good reason. Why? "While his traitorous apprentice" was both accurate and engaging to the reader.
 * 6) "Unable to restore Revan's true persona". You're making assumptions. There are conflicting sources. Some say they were unable, others that they were unwilling (we even have a section on that in the article, don't we?). The intro must take both into account.
 * 7) "the Sith fleet's commander" - why even make this change? Sure, you cut down on one word, but it doesn't look half as nice as "commander of the Sith fleet".
 * 8) "After killing Karath and attempting to escape the Leviathan". Yeah, we know they're on the Leviathan, why the repetition? The original sentence had more punch.
 * 9) "On Rakata Prime, when Shan, whom Malak had broken to his will, attempted to turn Revan back to the dark side, Revan rejected her pleas. As the Republic fleet attacked the Star Forge in the Rakata system, Revan boarded the ancient space station, turned Shan back to the light, and vanquished Malak in a duel, thereby defeating the Sith Empire and bringing the war he had instigated to a close." I appreciate what you were trying to do here, but it looks a bit clunky. I'll keep the additional information you've added but I'm going to pretty it up a bit. ;)
 * 10) "Three hundred years after the Jedi Civil War's end, Revan was believed to have never returned to the galaxy." Looks poor, sorry. You also got the date wrong. The FAQ over at the TOR website (which tells us that "Revan never returned") is speaking of the situation during the "present day" of TOR, which is 3,623 BBY. 3,653 BBY is the year the Treaty of Coruscant was signed. Again, I did do my research. If you think I'm wrong about something (and I can be, because I'm human) please bring it up with me before you just change it. Because you might be wrong.

Stuff I'm just curious about
 * 1) Why'd you change all references to Lehon to "Rakata Prime"? Just curious. Seems a bit superficial.

Thanks for your time and sorry if it seems like I'm having a go at you. That's not my intention. Later, dude.  Uli Talk 02:26, September 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * I've responded to your response over at my own talk page.  Uli Talk 21:02, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've done the edit. Extending the Rakata System stuff seemed too forced, so I ended up keeping it closer to how it used to be, whilst bringing in all but the "space station" link you'd made. I've also got "human male" into the introduction without making the first sentence overcrowded. I just called Bastila a "Jedi", so that way we have all our bases covered. :P  Uli Talk 16:37, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Cade Skywalkah
Hey Kasra! I see that you're working on Cade Skywalker. Awesome stuff, and props for doing that. I hope I can help out: If you check out the article on Legacy, there are some points in the "Crafting the galaxy" subsection of "Conception" that you might want to mine for Bts. Cheers! Menkooroo 06:16, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * I would love to help out! Although truthfully, I don't know how much of a help I can be... I'm in South Korea until next October, and have missed out on the last few issues of Legacy, which I won't be able to read until the eventual Monster trade paperback. All of the work I've been doing on the IK's lately is based on writeup of them I did a year ago, before I had an idea of how to actually write an FA, and the Legacy Era Campaign Guide, which I shoved into my suitcase. With that said, though, I think I could probably help out with Cade in the following ways:
 * Behind the scenes: Yup, definitely. The stuff from the Legacy article, plus action figure, miniature, and whatever else I find tomorrow. My students are on winter break right now, so I can actually dedicate quite a bit of time at work to doing this. :^P
 * Personality and traits: I'll be able to write a pretty beefy section, but without the actual comics to check on, it may be slightly incomplete.
 * Powers and abilities: Per above.
 * Anything from the Campaign Guide: I totally gotcho back on this one.
 * I'll start a new workbench at work tomorrow and update you as I go along. Thanks for the invite! Menkooroo 17:51, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Cade in Manhattan
 * 2) *Check out your workbench; I did a bunch of work on Bts today. Let me know what you think, and feel free to either request or make any changes. More to come as I comb through old forum posts by and interviews with Ostrander and Duursema. Also --- could you check out Trust Issues? He's listed as only appearing in a hologram in the Appearances section, but I'm pretty sure there are a few panels of him getting beaten up by some thugs on the Wheel. Menkooroo 05:40, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) *I would love to be a co-nom! Probably won't be able to happen for a while, though, as you and I are both already above the three-nom limit. :^D I just did a bunch of work on personality and traits, and moved some of what you had in there to a new section, armor and equipment. Let me know what you think. While writing it, I though it was a good idea to do it somewhat chronologically, as Cade has been developing as a character for 43 issues now, and following that development was necessary in order to write a sensical p&t section. So, for example, instead of having one paragraph that covered all of the times he says "No one dies for me", I thought it made more sense to split them up. Again, feel free to make or request any changes at all. I'll be back to write the "relationships" section later. Menkooroo 07:03, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) *Really? Who is the dude getting beat up by the thugs in those panels, then? ... Or am I just remembering it very wrong? Anyway.Sorry I haven't contributed in a few days; I should be able to do more in the next week. Relationships and prob. a bit of powers and abilities. Menkooroo 15:34, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) *I'm not sure if I'd be able to do a good job on Deliah without the comics in front of me. Sorry. :^( I have a bit more I want to add to Bts, and it looks like you've already done a great job with powers and abilities. Is there anything else you want me to tackle? Menkooroo 17:58, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) **Right! A pre-nom review. :^D I knew I was forgetting something important. I will definitely do that. Also, what kind of images are you looking for? More for the bio? There are a few images currently in Cade's actual article that I think you could fit in well: nyah, nyah, and nyah. Menkooroo 18:25, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

For your Cade Skywalker project :

Maxattac 13:50, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

C-C-C-Cade
Hey Kasra,

Sorry I've been such a dink with the Cade pre-nom review. There's really no reason that I shouldn't have it done this weekend. However...

There's been a lot of talk on the FAN Page lately about Rule 5: An article must be constant, and not be changing from day-to-day. A couple of inqs have pointed this out to me with my Antares Draco nom, and he's usually only in a few issues per year before disappearing for twelve or so months. Cade, on the other hand, is Legacy protagonist, and basically every month, his article would have to be updated with new info. Any inq that gave the article their support would need to do an additional review whenever a new Duursema-pencilled Legacy issue was released, which means that for the FAN to pass, it would need all five inqvotes to come within a month of eachother.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't nominate it --- I'm just wondering what we can do to be proactive about this problem. Do you have any suggestions?

It's not impossible for a character who's the protagonist of current media to be FA'd, but with Cade, I can see it being a long, drawn-out process that the inq's would eventually abandon, in spite of the article's quality. Even if it was nominated by another inq.

Whaddya think? Menkooroo 01:12, March 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Also! Here's what I think you should do. After the bio is cleaned up, the intro is rewritten, some more images are added, and a bit about his relationship with Blue is put in --- I think you should transfer all of this to Cade's actual article. Sure, you won't be FANing it, but to keep all of this info here while we waited for Legacy to end (which could (and hopefully will be)) many years from now would be detrimental to the Wook. Share the knowledge! Menkooroo 14:14, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Revan new pictures
Some new pictures for your article on Revan. Maxattac 23:16, June 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * from others:

Coruscant help
Hey, I know that KotOR covers some of the history of the Rakata and early galactic history. I'm trying to find sources for a lot of the information that is in the Coruscant article in the Pre-Republic and Early Republic sections that talks about the Rakata and the Zhell and so on. Do you know anything that could help me out? Thanks. Coruscantfan 23:41, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Cool! Well I'm trying to get back it's FA status. Mostly the problem with the article is that it has plenty of information, just no sources or little there of. And I don't have access to a lot of reference material, our library is pathetic when it comes to Star Wars! So yeah... Coruscantfan 23:49, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks!! Coruscantfan 23:57, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * If you want to call me that go ahead. ;-) Ok, glad you remembered, I've been working on the article and I have sourced some of that Pre-Republic material in both the article and info box but if you look you'll see its mostly a source per paragraph based on other articles and I don't have the nitty gritty details sourced or the information truly confirmed. Looking forward to it. Thanks! Coruscantfan 04:28, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I do. Coruscantfan 17:10, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Cool, now would be fine. Are you on the regular channel or on one of the project channels? Coruscantfan 17:17, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, well, I though I did but it keeps kicking me off. I'm trying to log on using the link at http://irc.wikia.com/starwars/ and I'm inputting Coruscantfan as user name and it won't let me on. Suggestions? Coruscantfan 17:29, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah that works but I'm loosing my Internet connection. I'm in a dorm and I believe they just started work on it. Its fading in and out. Can you leave the info on my talk? I'll try again tonight when they leave. Sorry! Coruscantfan 17:38, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * When I log in using the link you provided, is it supposed to kick into the #wookieepedia-social channel? Cause I type in just #wookieepdia. Yes I finally have my internet back!!!! :-) Coruscantfan 00:26, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Revan in TOR
It will be interesting indeed! Looks like we'll finally be able to write the conclusion to this legendary Jedi's story! Bioware's making it really hard for me to resist shelling out cash for this MMO. We'll have lots to work on in the near future I'm sure! JethLordMaster  (Xia Order) 04:12, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Malak FAN
Hey Kasra. I've got a couple of ideas about Malak's FAN that I'd like to discuss. I should be around on IRC the next couple of days, off and on, so maybe I'll catch you there. Cylka  -talk- 04:46, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Hi
Hey Karsa, thanks for the introduction! :) I was just looking over your portfolio, it looks like both you and Menk have done some really impressive work here at the Wook! I'm glad to be back and working with you guys. (And don't worry, I've got plenty of other noms forthcoming. :D) — Hunter <font color="#595454">Kahn  14:17, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd be happy to help in the future, but to be honest, I'm not as familiar with KotOR as I ought to be. Maybe I'll brush up though! I'll try to take a look and give them a review. And if you like OOU noms, feel free to check out George Roubicek! :D — <font color="#C0C0C0">Hunter <font color="#595454">Kahn  14:33, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Images
Hey Kasra. I uploaded the two images you wanted and added them to their respective articles. I hope that they are what you wanted. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 23:38, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Background to KOTOR events
Hello Kasra, I'm working on Endar Spire and noticed a strange difference in an interpretation of events between some articles. Could you please verify the following information: 1- Was the purpose of having Revan near Shan all the time so that his memories of the Star Forge would be triggered? 2- Did three Republic soldiers also escape the ship? Did Revan meet up with them on Taris, or did were they captured by Bandon? 3- How many beds were in the crew quarters Revan wakes up in? There's nothing mentioned of the crew quarters in the article, and I'd like to add it in. Thank you! <font color=#FF0000>Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith  -Just shy, not antisocial: You can talk to me!- 15:51, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, can you tell me in what manner the Endar Spire was referenced in KOTOR 2? It's listed as a "Mentioned Only."  I'd like to include in the article how it was mentioned.  Thanks again! <font color=#FF0000>Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith  -Just shy, not antisocial: You can talk to me!- 15:53, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the your help! <font color=#FF0000>Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith  -Just shy, not antisocial: You can talk to me!- 13:38, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll be nominating the article soon. I think I have everything, can you please just check to make sure it looks ok?  Thank you! <font color=#FF0000>Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith  -Just shy, not antisocial: You can talk to me!- 15:35, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

swtor
Hi, I noticed you voted in support of TOR Wiki's Friends of Wookieepedia nomination I was just wondering If you knew of any other Wookieepedia members who might vote in support (or opposition) but are not aware that the nomination has been made. Thank you for taking the time to read this and your vote support, if you could be any help I will be most appreciative. Alexsau1991 (talk page) 22:42, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Alexsau1991 (talk page) SithEmblemTOR.PNG 17:58, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Re: 99
If you're looking for all pertinent source info on him: yes, the episodes and the director's commentaries for both episodes (which normally only have Bts stuff), and also 99's clone card and the two CN.com dataclips for the episodes should all be checked for info. The dataclips have tidbits of info linked to them (the buttons to access them will appear while you're playing the videos through), so they might have some info on him. Hope that helps.  CC7567  (talk) 06:06, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Canderous
Hey Kasra, if you're still up to it I'd like to take you up on your offer to give Canderous a pre-nom review. Thanks! JethLordMaster  (Xia Order) 06:08, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about the large number of edits I've made to your talk page, I'm getting some weird errors whenever I try to post here. Anyways, I've dealt with almost all the other objections now, except the one regarding the nowiki refs (again, not so good with those) where I'm not entirely sure what you want me to remove, sorry! As for the image, I'm actually waiting on either Redemption or Darth Culator to be freed up enough to take a new one, but I guess it would be better to take it down for now. Thanks! JethLordMaster  (Xia Order) 23:16, October 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * On a separate, note, I was wondering if there was anything specific you wanted me to work on for Revan. In between dealing with objections on Canderous I'll have time to continue working towards our ultimate goal. JethLordMaster Ying yang copy.jpg (Xia Order) 06:16, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nah, don't worry about it, I completely understand. In any case, I'm no one to judge with my barely weekly edit schedule. Take your time! JethLordMaster Ying yang copy.jpg (Xia Order) 03:22, October 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just a quick response to the Mandalore thing, I always saw that as because we didn't know the real names of the other Mandalores. For example, Jango and Boba are always referred to by their names, as was Fenn Shysa if I recall correctly. JethLordMaster Ying yang copy.jpg (Xia Order) 22:47, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Chantique
I would love it if you could give it a pre-nom look over. I'll let you know as soon as she's ready, I still have a few more sections to go but she's close. Also, I see we both signed up to do the same character hahah, well basically the same character. They're both gonna take quite a bit of time but we should see if we can coordinate and get them nommed at the same time! Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 11:10, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * I also have a question for you, Mr. Chief Editor: would I place JJM's production notes under sources or external links? I'm leaning towards externals but I wanted to double check with you. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 11:18, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Malak FAN revisited
Hey Kasra. I've completed what I believe to be my final copy-edit of Malak. I made some adjustments and removed a few minor things that seemed to confuse more than help. I do, however, have two more issues that I think need to be cleared up. First of all, the whole "Squint" name isn't very clear in the main article. It's explained well enough in the intro, but needs to be done so in the body, and in greater detail. Secondly, I'm not sure that the whole dark side Revan killing Bindo et al needs to be included since it would need context on who they are. It may be better to simply say that Shan pledged herself to him and they went to the Star Forge. That, however, is a sizable deletion so I wanted to consult with you first. Otherwise, I'm ready to sign-off on the article. Let me know what you think. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 06:12, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

The Jedi Path
There isn't really any new information on either Revan or Malak, they just receive a single minor mention each, in a section on Sith history that was supposedly written in-universe by the Chief Librarian Restelly Quist. --Jinzler 10:50, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Malak
Sure. I might be a bit busy in the near future, but I'll get on it as soon as I can.  CC7567  (talk) 03:05, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Malak Bts
Hey Kasra. I ran across something interesting in the dialog files for KotOR I and I thought that it may be something to put in Malak's Bts. According to dialog StrRef 49 246, Malak is said to be Revan's last surviving apprentice. I have no idea if this means that Revan had other official apprentices or if they are referring to the Revanchists, but it's a fun little piece of trivia anyway. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 16px"><font color=#008080>Cylka  <span style="font-family: times, cursive; font-size: 13px"><font color=#00A693>-talk- 15:10, October 5, 2010 (UTC)