Talk:Ahsoka Tano/Archive1

Come on...
... the Togruta on the poster CAN only be her... 24.17.73.18 06:29, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Almost undoubtedly, but no confirmation = no inclusion. And sign your name on a talk page. Firebird 15:50, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, there is.

Asoka Picture
Chack Jadson and I have been having an arguement over wether or not to post an Asoka picture I found on her page. Chack says it is too bad quality. What I say is, hey, it's the only Asoka picture we have! We might as well put it on to let people have an idea (even if it is a vague one) of what she looks like. This is the picture: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:Tortuga_Lightsaberist_against_droid_starfighter.JPG Daniel0605 21:09, 5 December 2007 (UTC) Daniel0605 15:27, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Normally, I'd agree...but...really. That screenshot is just shit. Simply put. Really...it's impossible to get any worse. That sort of thing needs to stay away from this place. -- Redemption Redemptionusersymbol.png (Talk) 21:13, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * You know I worked hard to get the images from the computer monitors shown for only a second during the Clone Wars videos, and you're calling my work shit. It seems you Wookiepedians are'nt very nice, or encouraging to new members.  And I still disagree with you about the picture.  The picture really tells a lot.  It tells that Asoka is a Togruta Jedi, with a green lightsaber, that fights a Vulture Droid.  I might just put the picture on.  Even if you guys don't like it.  Thanks for discouraging me to use Wookiepedia.
 * Bear in mind that Redemption's views don't necessarily represent the views of the wiki. And the image is poor, though it does give us some information on the character. Why don't you just add the information in the text of the article, and wait until you or another can get a better and more suitable image? --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 16:14, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah. I guess I'll do that.  Though I can still post a link to the picture, right? Daniel0605 16:51, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Well...it would appear to have been deleted, I'm afraid. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 16:57, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * So should I re-upload it to Wookiepedia, or just upload it somewhere else and put the link here?Daniel0605 17:06, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I uploaded a slightly different version of the old infobox picture. Drewton  Era-old.png ( Drewton's Holocron ) 18:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Spelling

 * Hello, I'm just wondering if the spelling of Asoka has been seen anywhere (I know in the interview with George Lucas that it sounds like this). However, according to Lego's preliminary image of an AT-TE (loacted here), Asoka is clearly spelt Ashoka. Of course Lego could have it wrong at the moment but this is the only spelling of the name that I've seen. 21:41, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
 * A-H-S-O-K-A right??????? well i can't wait!!! april 15th right???? omg im so excited. i want to see it the first day it comes out. WAIT Anakin can have a padawan?? I thought only masters could oh well <**> Ewokmenace 20:53, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Fourth para of Biography reads "After securing the Monastery, they discovered a protocol droid named 4A-7 who informed them the Huttlet was being in the dungeons." The end of that sentence should read "being HELD in the dungeons."  Obi-Ben Wasabi 00:37, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You know, if you see an error, you should fix it instead of complaining about it. Luckily I was here and I fixed it. Dr.Kermit 17:44, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Padawan
Hang on- 'She showed eagerness to prove herself worthy to be the Padawan of Anakin Skywalker...'. This means she wanted to be Anakin's apprentice! It does'nt say if she was. Darth Oompa Loompa 18:56, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

And, maybe she wanted to be his apprentice to get powerful! I sense the Dark Side in our midst! Darth Oompa Loompa 18:59, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Alas, the original text of the article on starwars.com states "This young Togruta is eager to prove herself as a worthy Padawan to her bold Master, Anakin Skywalker" (italics mine). jSarek 19:04, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Damn! Darth Oompa Loompa 20:32, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh wait, administrator. Sorry. Darth Oompa Loompa 20:34, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Appearance

 * Ahsoka's facial markings dont match that of a Togruta, and her skin is very orange. Is the picture on her profile a rough draft or did the artists intend on having her look different? Greekpimp 23:44, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

She has a lekku. Darth Oompa Loompa 18:39, 6 February 2008 (UTC)


 * No, i understand that she has smaller lekku due to age, but a normal Togruta has white spots around their eyes and a more red complexion. Ahsoka doesnt have the red skin or the white patches.... Greekpimp 00:38, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That's probably an example of Togruta genetic diversity.
 * If the people who made Clone Wars say she's a Togruta, she's a Togruta.

The reason for her facial markings is because she is not in the same clan as the other Tugruta that we have seen, each clan has its own pattern. check out the Tugruta page. Ivel 19:05, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * If anything, her montrails are total BS in relation to how younger Togruta are depicted (see Ashla).-- Goodwood Redstarbird.svg ( Alliance Intelligence ) 11:26, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well actually there is a diffrence Ashla is only 3 or 4. Why'll Ahsoka is 8 to 12 years old see there is a time diffrence. Ivel 01:10, 25 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I thought her montrals and lekku would be alittle longer/higher since she's around 11-14. her lekku are way short, and Shaak Ti's go down to her waist. I would have thought that Ahsoka's lekku would at least go to her cheast. JediNTT307 19:11, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Has it been considered that the shorter lekku are a change made in interest of technical limitations? She's a pretty major character with a lot of action sequences, and longer lekku would be much more difficult, time consuming, and harder on the computers to animate. Vongchild 23:01, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Togruta don't have lekku. Lekku are the names for the twi'lek headtails, they have a different name because they serve a practical function of housing part of the brain. Togruta head tails are not called lekku. 82.19.167.91 07:17, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * They are in Shaak Ti's Databank entry. -- Ozzel 07:53, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I do believe that is an error on the side of the databank, Ozzel. They are NOT called lekku, those are the Twi'lek headtails or braintails. I believe that we should call these headtails on Togruta sense tendrils, or some form of extra-sensory tendril. 203.123.89.166 10:30, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

ok, for one she is not 14..official starwars sites state they wanted the show aimed for 12 yr olds so they added a 11 yr old. 2nd, shaak ti does have much longer tails but she is a few decades older. she is an adult...30ish at least. ahsoka is 11, yeah hers are gonna be smaller. evventually they will grow out

More Character/plot Info
Just checked a new video on hyperspace, which goes in to more detail about why Anakin has a Padawan, turns out the Council are trying to teach Anakin about his trouble with attachment, and in letting her go upon completion of her training he will attain the Rank of Master Adamqd 15:20, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

If this is true, then I'm even more concerned for her safety.--Vatek 22:14, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Source for Information?
Do we have a source stating that she and Anakin would encounter Ventress? Darth Anakin 15:39, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I've heard that Obi-Wan enocunters Ventress instead. (which is also in the trailer)  Drewton  SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg 00:44, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Age?

 * I didn't think the character would be 11 years old? Seems to be alittle young. Do the Togruta Species age differently from humans?
 * Actually, it is likely she is 11. Somewhere I heard the directors wanted her to be young.  The Jedi had to be chosen by 13, or they would be assigned to the AgriCorps, so she couldn't be 14.Corellian Premier 13:56, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * but it says that she was picked unusually young as a padawan. 11 isn't unusually young, it's getting on the older end of the spectrum. 7 would be young, not 11.
 * Yeah Corellian, you're right. maybe she was picked like how Obi-Wan was picked.--Ob1 13:27, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The show states, in the episode with Plo Koon, that she is 14. Gethralkin 23:06, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * In a book I was reading called Star Wars The Clone Wars by Karen Traviss Anakin calls her a youngling and thatshe was not old enough to be a padawan. Then she says she is not a youngling and that she is fourteen.--Padawan Mika Tana 01:44, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what age she is, some younglings look like they're four, others 10! I'm so confused!- Person
 * Okay everybody, I've looked up on Star Wars.com The offical website, that she is 14. If you want proof, look up on google how old is Ashoka Tano. 79.16.12.142 16:09, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Clothes & Age
Does anyone else think it's weird that they put a 11-14 year old girl (also being a Jedi) in such revealing clothes? Why didn't they just put her in the regular tunic? I mean, a tube top? JediNTT307 19:09, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Same reason as with Aayla Secura I guess. But still, Aayla wore robes as padawan... Mauser 19:19, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I realise Ahsoka is young, but perhaps Togruta age differently from that of humans and other species. She does seem older and more intelligent for her age that the average human 11/14 year old. Is there any info on Togruta lifespans and their ageing process?
 * i wonder if she might have romantic feelings for anakin later on the series if she lives in the movie or series that is because of anakin lack of guidance on this might effect her judgement later on i just like to bring this upJedi knight 21:19, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * i beleave on the subject of age that she goes through puberty a lot earlier than humans because she seems to have a more mature body and mind (stop snikering you) and I also agree with the possible sex appeal being used to get information out of people. User:Hitomi Sabaki

Maybe for Togrutas that is acceptable or something. But I do agree that her clothing is a little more suited for someone whos older. Shaak Ti dresses pretty modest and shes still a Togruta.Greekpimp 23:27, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know the in-universe answer. But in real-life, it's pretty typical of many SW female character. Sex sells, it's why Aayla Secura was dressed that way and made such a big deal out of (as opposed to several other Jedi - comparatively, she adds almost nothing to the plot itself in the movie). Not to mention the whole Leia-in-metal-bikini thing, as well as Padme with her torn clothes vs. not-torn clothes seen in EP II, as well as why Shak Ti is wearing a lot less in The Force Unleashed. Sex sells. Anyway, yeah, it probably is going too far with a fourteen year old, regardless of her in-universe maturity, because little kids won't understand that concept, and kids will question it, especially young girls, there's no doubt about that. 129.107.81.12 04:13, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ahsoka looks good to me. At least it's better than nothing or a slave outfit. She has a certain appeal to me and maybe the clothes will help her in infiltration. Aayla used her "Natural Gifts" to get information, so why not Little Soka? Maybe she could use her feminine wiles to seduce information out of an organic enemy with those clothes. Wallflowerlover284Angel of Death 17:11, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Please remember that a talk page is not a forum. It is a place to discuss how to improve the article Dr.Kermit 19:51, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Togruta Jedi wear that kind of thing as it's traditional amongst their species (along with jewellery and face paint etc.). Again, I refer to Star Wars: The Clone Wars, The Visual Dictionary.
 * Maybe it's just that it's easier to animate than having her in billowing cloaks.
 * If you look closely, you can see the top of a tunic of similar color to her skin, like, a shade or two off. I didn't spot this until I checked the Visual Guide, (The page in particular is 14). If you look closely, you can (barely) make out the difference, so it's safe to say she's in a near-full body suit, but this is just a theory on my part and my eyes devicing me. Luke Danger 23:54, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * she is 11, and yeah the togrutos dress like that. also, everyone makes a big deal about ahsoka abut did you see aayla????? her shirt hangs down way low and her pants are dangerously low. and also, padawans dont really dress with the billowing robes and cloaks. and her flexible cloathes help with her speed. do you think shaak ti could jump nad rolll around like that with her massive clothes? no, so in order to have ahsoka fast, small, and flexible they had to have her wear something practical for battle. i personaly love it!
 * uh, Shaak Ti wore revealing clothes during the Great Jedi Purge.--Ob1 21:00, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

As stated above on this page, Ahsoka was 14 by the time she was apprenticed to Anakin, and the article states that Ashoka was "promoted to Padawan earlier than normal", and I seem to recall this being mentioned in the movie. But Obi-Wan was sent away from the Jedi at the age of 13 because he was too old to become a Padawan. So did the Jedi Order change something in this space of time, or is there a mistake somewhere? Sorry if this isn't very relevant for the talk page, but if this is a mistake on the article's part, it should probably be changed. 06:53, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe the 13 agelimit is set only to Humans. It's is possible that other species with other maturing period have other limits. Darth Morrt 07:43, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * According to fluff from WotC's Ultimate Alien Anthology (grain of salt, much?) Togruta adolescence lasts longer than human (12 to 17, versuses 12 to 15). So it's possible that Ahsoka's young for her species, probably equivalent to 12-going-on-13. Which still should be similar to the old 13-year-old cut-off Obi-Wan experienced. Dunno. Jedi Master Randy Starkiller 17:32, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't forget that the jedi are short of force-users due to the war, so they probably promoted her just to throw more bodies on the front lines. Either way it'll probably be explained in the series.Tocneppil 00:47, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * she is 11, the official starwars sites state it and i think they are smarter then a bunch of peorple who think they know what they are talking about but dont
 * The article now states that she is 11. I was under the impression that she was 14, due to what was said in "Star Wars: The Clone Wars - The Visual Dictionary, published by DK. The reference to her being 11 states that George himself said she was 11. But then again he isn't the director of this, Dave Filoni is (so George may be wrong). My brain hurts now. PS: If she really is 11, her DOB still says 36 BBY (making her 14).
 * Where does the article say she's 11? --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 13:13, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

It says in the article about Jedi that a youngling must be chosen by a Knight to be his/her Padawan by the age of 13, or he/she will be assigned to one of the Jedi Service Corps. She is a Padawan to Anakin Skywalker. So it's obvious that she's 13 or under, not 14 as some people here suggested. DinoTyrannus
 * Wrong, Databank says she's 14. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 14:37, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Apparently, the usual youngling restrictions have been relaxed due to the war (I seem to remember some other precedent for that, but cannot pinpoint it). Or maybe Ahsoka had a previous master who might have died during the war after being with her for one year. It is not absolutely neccessary for her to be 11. I'm with I.n.a.n.--Skippy Farlstendoiro 14:45, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Look at the movie "Star Wars: The Clone Wars." Anakin said to her when he met her "Aren't you a little young to be a Padawan?" 14 is, under normal cicumstances, considered to old to become a Padawan. While Farlstendoiro has a point about youngling restrictions being relaxed due to the state of the war, that quote just screams in your face that she isn't 14. DinoTyrannus
 * And the Databank explicitly and plainly states that she is. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 22:01, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Have you considered that the Databank may be wrong? It was written by humans, and all humans make mistakes once in a while. I'm just using simple logic to determine my opinion of things. DinoTyrannus 04:12, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

In the "Behind The Scenes" section of the article, it states that George said she was 11 - but as we know she's 14. the DataBase says she's 14, the visual dictionary says that she's 14, this article even has her as being 14. If the DB changes to say that she's not 14, then we'll change the article; if not, then we'll leave it as is, as all reliable sources other than George say that she's 14. And let us not forget, George isn't directing (or even writing! He is producing however, and therefore has quite a major input, but not as big as Dave Filoni) this project. The official timeline on SW.com is one thing, but Lucas has stated before that the movie time lines trump all. His story is one thing, all the outside stories of the books/games/etc are another.
 * the databank is idiotic and george and the other people on the starwars project know beteer then fans who have no evidence
 * Was she really born in 36 BBY? If she's "too young to be a padawan", then wouldn't she be born later? According to that she's at least 16, too old to be a padawan. According to that, she should be in one of the Service Corps. 209.244.43.211 19:45, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * She's 14. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 21:50, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * He's right, man. And technically, she was born in 34 BBY. Anakin wasn't a Jedi Knight until 20 BBY (which I tried to explain to you guys several times before). If Ahsoka was fourteen in that time, she had to have been his Padawan some time after the Battle of Praesitlyn. Remember that? So if I were you, I'd correct the birth date. 71.161.228.122 17:45, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * TCW is set in 22 BBY. 22 + 14 = 36. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 17:51, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, and if you hadn't noticed, Anakin was still a Padawan at 22 BBY. Honestly, he wasn't even ready then until his promotion two years later. But if what you're saying is true, then we should demand a talk with those who run the SW website about this confusion! We'll sue!!! 131.109.225.3 20:18, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that's a little harsh. And what do u mean WE?--Ob1 21:04, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Many, many people here on the Wookieepedia are already aware of when Anakin became a Padawan, received his scar etc., etc., and the problems The Clone Wars thus causes in clashing with established canon. However, the official dating of the new film is 22 BBY and no amount of wailing and gnashing of teeth will change that. You'll just have to patiently (and perhaps, even politely?) wait for an official re-examination of the timeline, like the rest of us are doing. -Kev-La Ttolya 20:32, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

That might be a viable explanation if Clone Wars didn't already play puppetmaster with the concept of Star Wars canon. Sources indicate that she's either 14 or 11, neither of which lend the idea that she's "too young to be a padawan" or even given the position earlier than usual (Heck, Episode I canonically establishes that Anakin was granted the position at age 9...without comment on him being too young to be a padawan). Historically, the rule regarding padawan age has been established as "you have to become one by the age of 13" for the time period (established at least by the publication of The Rising Force, though Lucas' perspective on the rule's canon status is uncertain as far as I know). And then there comes the issue of Revenge of the Sith, which establishes that Anakin never attained the rank of master, meaning that either Ahsoka died or left the Order...while Anakin's characterization (not to mention the dialogue of Revenge of the Sith) indicates neither of these things, much less that he even had a padawan at any point. (granted though, this is likely due to the fact that during the production of RotS, Ahsoka probably wasn't even an idea in her creator's mind). Let's face it, no matter which source we use here, there will be things that draw the conclusion into question. Far better that the conflicting official sources get acknowledged than ignored. 141.166.235.26 04:34, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The fact that Anakin never attained a master's rank doesn't necessarily mean that she died or left the order. Regardless if Anakin successfully trained her to become a knight or not, a flaw in his personality prevented him from advancing as it normally would happen. Let's just watch the show and quit speculating in this talk page on what happens to Ahsoka, because until it airs, it isn't going to be included in the article. In any case, she is 14 according to the TV show, as it explains how Master Plo found her as an infant "14 years ago." Gethralkin 22:56, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

97.117.255.42 07:22, 19 July 2009 (UTC)anyone ever think that she was 11 in the movie, however the TV show spans the years in between episode 2 and 3, therefore by that time she would have been 14?
 * Would that be the movie which takes place between Episodes 2 and 3 and which the TV series picks up from? --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 22:58, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

New info from Visual Guide
Publisher's website:
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and I mirrored it here at my website:
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Has info on her acting as Blue Leader, being found 14 years ago by Plo Koon, a confrontation with Grievous, and other stuff.
 * I dont care if she is 14 or 11 what i want to know is what jabba thought when he saw her in the movie. also i did see the line on her and it hink its part of her body.

Name?
Ahsoka is probably a play on Ashoka the Great, a historical Indian general, and the Ashoka Chakra, but we should confirm which one before mentioning it in Bts.Tocneppil 21:02, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Ahsoka is Not Shaak-Ti
Ahsoka at the end of this article is accredited as being the Togruta Shaak-Ti from Star Wars: Clone Wars the animation. As the movie Star Wars: The Clone Wars is the first appearance of Ahsoka she has yet to A: be killed. Or B: fight General Grievous. I can not change this on the page because it has been locked. -- Sir Hat
 * It says nothing about her being Shaak Ti. It says she has a fight with Grievous, which is from The Clone Wars Visual Dictionary, which covers the movie and the upcoming TV series. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 10:21, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, I had not seen that. Is there a place I can read this online to clarify?

Biography
I haven't actually seen the movie yet, but her biography reads way too much like a report on a single mission. Do we really need specific details about the battle in her biography? --Joseph Leito 01:25, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I added some section titles to break it up. At this point, we don't know a whole lot more than that one mission, but we'll have a lot more to work with when the show and comics start. -- Ozzel 01:37, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with Joseph....but he posted that in August. Its December now and her biography is way to big. Things need to be either reworded, taken out, or summarized. I personally dont think I should be in charge of that but it still needs to be done. Any volunteers?? Greekpimp - Talk 03:00, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Canon Status
I know that Ahsoka has been declaired canon but doesn't this conflict with other sources that claim that Anakin had no apprentice at the time of Episode three or immediately before. Will we have to edit other articles or has a "dominate canon" not been yet established? Ryan Fett  ( For Mandalore! )JaingHead.svg 23:52, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The Clone Wars Movie and TV show is screwing up alot of canon sources we have. (mostly just the CW comics and novels) It's going to run over a few things and make TCW canon instead of other stuff. So it i don't see why it wouldn't dominate some little things that happened in the move. JediNTT307 22:21, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yea but, the EpIII is like... mega-canon. Sadly, George made The Clone Wars, which contradicts Ep III, hold the same canonity (that a word?). So how? Unless, TCW is held in an alt reality, or everyone gets mindwiped. Talk about duex ex machima.
 * You need to sign your posts on talk pages. The TV series does not have the same canonical value as the films. The films are G-canon and the games, EU stories, etc., are C-canon. The TV series is T-canon, which takes precedence over C-canon, but not G-canon. However, in the case of Ahsoka being Anakin's padawan, there was no mention in the films that Anakin never had an apprentice. This left the door open to give him one. He didn't have to be a Master to take on an apprentice, and it was, in fact, one of the final deciding factors of whether or not a Knight was 'Master material'. Obviously, Anakin failed the test. Gethralkin 13:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Revenge of the Sith Novelisation Chapter 8; page 158: 'Anakin nodded after 3PO and R2. "I was just thinking that even after all I've done, See-Threepio is still the only person I know who calls me Master."' -uh, cv (same guy as the unsigned post up top)


 * Don't worry, she will probably be CGI-ed into a future release of Revenge of the Sith by GL And by the way, canonity is not a word, canonicity is, though User:Fransbal 12:40 26 March 2009

> JangFett  Talk 13:34, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * how do we know that Anakin failed?? To get Master status, you need to train a padawan to be a knight and pass the trials. then you must forgo another set of trials. Ever think that he was supposed to enter take the trials in a short time? and possibly the way things where headed delayed his trials? or maye Ashoka dies and never takes the trials. Or maybe she turns to the dark side. Or something unexplained. or even during her trials she let her thirst for knowledge get the better of her and Yoda failed her. Theres many factors to consider. so just dont say that Anakin failed.
 * In order to become a Jedi Knight, the padawan must take the "Trials". And if he or she succeeds the padawan will be Knighted. Right now it is unclear why Anakin wasn't promoted to Jedi Master. Also we don't know Ahsoka's fate. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"

Is Asoka the youngling from ep 2 the same as Ahsoka
Its kinda odd that ther's a Togruta youngling named Ashla and then in the Clone wars movie right after ep 2 there's a new padawan Ahsoka and they're both Togrutas. So I was thinking are they the same people or are they different. I nkow they have different names but the connection is so evident. This is Ashla (Jedi)) Platinumplatypus 22:26, 7 November 2008 (UTC)]].
 * They're different people: Ashoka looks completely different and is quite a bit older. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 22:33, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree with Silly Dan here. They're completely different.


 * This youngling looks like a boy anyway


 * Actually, if you look at the gallery on the Clone Wars DVD, there's an illustration of Ahsoka when she was called Ashla, and the youngling looks about as old as Ahsoka was in Episode II. So Ashla is the same person as Ahsoka!
 * No. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 18:59, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Ashoka might be old, but there are about five to seven years between episode 2, and clone wars! I don't know if it is her, but I think it is a good guess!- No one
 * There are only some week between episode 2 and TCW! Darth Morrt 20:32, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It's actually unclear at this point how much time there is between Episode II and TCW. Wild Space gives it as 4 weeks, but this will most likely change before there's an official timeline. - Milo Fett [Comlink] 20:59, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think they would change the date of a new source. The older sources will be retconned. If they were not sure about the date of the Wild Space date, they could have said easily to the author not to mention any date.Darth Morrt 08:03, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Either way, it's just speculation at this point, though the reason I say the new source will most likely be retconned is because Wild Space actually conflicts with the timeline of the show itself (pointed out by Nathan Butler at ). Furthermore, Leland Chee has stated that they don't have anything near a final timeline at this point and probably won't until near the end of the show, so Karen Miller's date that Lucasfilm let through is far from final. - Milo Fett [Comlink] 18:04, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It must be more than a few weeks, Anakin's hair is long in TCW and it very short in episode 2, i'm thinking at least 6 months 17:24 5th June 2009

Ahsoka's Eyes
Ahsoka Tano's eyes have pupils, while neither Ashla's nor Shaak Ti's eyes contain pupils or color. Is there some canonical significance to this that needs to be included in this article? Qui-Gon Reborn 00:16, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ashla has pupils in the above picture. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 08:23, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You may be thinking of the stylized version of Shaak Ti from the original "Clone Wars" cartoon. Also, your signature is broken. - Milo Fett [Comlink] 18:05, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, my signature doesn't seem broken. What happened?  And what I mean is that Ahsoka's eyes have blue in them, while neither Shaak Ti nor Ashla nor any other Togruta I've seen had eyes like that.  But, oh well.  Just a curiosity.Qui-Gon Reborn 02:23, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You didn't close the "green" tag in your signature, so it makes all text after it green. But if you mean irises instead of pupils, I think you're right. - Milo Fett [Comlink] 15:23, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Lightsaber Style
To my understanding Ahsoka uses Shien (it's farily obvious). Perhaps this should be mentioned in the article?


 * Well, to my understanding Reverse Grip Shien was first mentioned in a tiny role-playing supplement with an incredibly awkward description, never specifically mentioning "Reverse Grip." And then Wookieepedians got carried away with it and made a bunch of assumptions, like you are now. Then there's the contradictions about the styles themselves. Sometimes they are described as a fighting philosophy. If that's the case, you can't be sure that she isn't just using a reverse grip version of another style. Sometimes it's described as a hard-style, like a real world Martial Art. And if that's the case, you can't be certain she's an adherent. Until a source flat-out states that Ahsoka uses Shien, it is considered speculation. And speculation has always seemed ugly in a reference source. SinisterSamurai 06:44, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Shien by itself (not as part of the Form V fighting style) is a style where the user wields a blade with a reverse grip. In this case, Ahsoka is a user of Shien. // ~mikah~  19:21, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Whats the source for the statement that Anakin is going to try and break her habit of using a reverse grip? Without a source we would have to delete it because it seems like an assumption.Rayn3000 22:35, 20 December 2008 (UTC)User:Rayn3000
 * The source is Dave Filoni in his interview with Ashley Eckstein. Gethralkin 04:58, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * And a link to that interview can be found at Forum:SH: Ahsoka's Lightsaber Style. 96.240.215.245 06:00, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

note*** ahsoka does not use only reverse grip style she also uses a regular style at certain intervals.

I am no expert but it appears to me that Ahsoka often switches between Form 5, Shien, and Form 4, Hawk-bat. It was stated earler that she darts around acrobatically to tire her opponent, which is similar to Yoda's tatics though the two can hardly be compared.The source would be the star wars clone wars show I suppose. Perhaps this should be touched on by a more devout fan, it is not uncommon for a jedi to use more than one form. Take obi-wan who attacks with form 4 and defends with form 3 as seen in revenge of the sith. As for the reverse Grip situation, you have to draw a parralel between Ahsoka and Anakin's future Aprentice, Galen Marek from Force Unleashed. The Chances that both would use reverse grip shien at all is paramount. ~Arkady/just some guy.

Page Locked
Currently the article about Ahsoka has been locked to prevent editing. How is anybody supposed to improve the article if nobody is even able to edit it? It makes no sense. DinoTyrannus
 * It's locked only to anonymous and newly registered editors; that's to keep it from being spammed or inundated with poor quality edits or fanon, as users who have registered and been here for a little while are considered more likely to be interested in making constructive edits. We do this for pages that expect to see a lot of views or editing, like main characters in new sources like The Clone Wars; feel free to register if you're interested in editing, but even if you don't most articles can be edited by anyone. - Lord Hydronium 21:47, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Eye color
Is the phrase "bluish-grey" really necessary under "eye color"? Blue and grey are just different shades of the same color: blue. Is this description used because she is not human? Rain Thalo 01:14, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

It might just be a cultural thing, but I've always known gray to be the halfway color between black and white. I do however find "bluish-gray" a little weird, since her eyes could easily just be described as blue.--Anderson 08:50, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

So is it worth changing it to just plain blue? Rain Thalo 21:26, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I have changed it to blue. The reason is because unless there is a clear canonical reference specifying the shade of blue, the primary or secondary color is appropriate. Secondly, the reference superscript on the eye-color links to an article that does not state that her eyes are bluish-gray - it only supplies a screen image. Thirdly, due to the differences in monitor standards with regards to rendering color, the exact hue is not determinable solely by looking at a screen image. Gethralkin 23:15, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

New Content
''Anakin's revivalAhsoka's master was gravely injured in a battle. Ahsoka went with Jedi Master Aayla Secura to a planet to find treatment for her master. While she was with Aayla, Ahsoka learned the Jedi Code of no personal attachments.''

''Separatist weapon scareAnakin healed of his injuries and Ahsoka encountered the pacifist Lurmen while on a mission to destroy a new Separatist weapon. Anakin and Ahsoka must get Lurmen to join the Republic before he and his people lay down and surrender to the Separatist regime.''

Is there a source for all of this?--Anderson 09:43, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Aren't younglings supposed to remember the Jedi Code thouroughly?--Ob1 21:30, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

You find this info from the episodes "Jedi Crash" and "Defenders of Peace"--Padawan Mika Tana 01:59, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

List of Ahsoka's pet names
I thought it would beeb a good idea to list all the little pet names she gives to people, because it apart of her personality and veryones knows the nickname for Anakin Skywalker but what about the other? Like in episode 6 Down Fall of Droid Ahsoka calls Captain Rex "Rexter".


 * That would be adding a pointless category. These expressions do not usually remain consistent, and only reflect the mood Ahsoka is in at the time. Basically, it is her practice of Dun Möch in most cases, and not slang used by anyone other than her. It is not as if a person watching the show does not know what she is referring to at the time of her using a made-up slang term. So creating a category list of so-called "pet names" would just clutter the article with unnecessary content. Gethralkin 00:28, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest making a mention about it in her Personality and traits section(since it is her personality) and list some nicknames there. QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force...Quigonheadshot.jpg 08:51, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * It is still irrelevant because the article already explains that she makes up names as she pleases. Gethralkin 05:45, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

It is pointless. but if you lokk at all these articles, a lot of the categorys are pointless. and some change it when i fix wrong information so whoevers doing it. KNOCK IT OFF WIL YA! WallyX 20:33, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Possible Mention In Coruscant Nights: Patterns of Force
According to a post on the TF.N forums, there is mention in Coruscant Nights III: Patterns of Force of a "Togrutan female" that Jax Pavan helps escape the planet. While I don't think it's explicitly mentioned that it's her (haven't read that far into it yet), can there be any real doubt? I think, at least, it deserves a "possible mention" appearance on the page. TIEPilot051999 16:36, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Because there's only 1 Togrutan female in existence in Star Wars. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 16:56, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It could be Shaak Ti. QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force...Quigonheadshot.jpg 19:44, 29 January 2009 (UTC)


 * That Torgrutan could not have been Shaak Ti, she is dead by the time Order 66 was issued, she was captured and killed by General Grevious right in front of Anakin and Obi-Wan in a Deleted Scene of Star Wars Revenge of the Sith, also heres something I dont get i see this she is dead and in Star Wars the Force Unleashed Starkiller must hunt down and kill her himself but hell I havent read the books so I dont know what they wrote. Rasic

I doubt she was killed by Ventress or Grievous because she has the skill to beat them and has defeated them before
 * The Togrutan in CN3 could be any female Togrutan, as mentioned above. Additionally, Ahsoka did not have the skill to defeat Ventress or Grievous. When confronting Ventress, she had the assistance of Luminara. When confronted by Grievous, she had to retreat even though she lasted a lot longer than most Jedi going up against the cyborg general. Gethralkin 01:01, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

I've read CN3 all the way through and though, unfortunately, that was the first possibility that came to my mind when I read the passages concerning the unidentified Togruta. :-P There exists very little in the way of concrete information concerning her (in fact we never see her in CN3), therefore, even putting down CN3 as a possible mention of Ahsoka strikes me as being way too speculative. --Muuuuuurgh 00:04, 31 January 2009 (UTC)


 * In fact we know that Michael Reeves finished CN trilogy more than a year ago, and therefore could not include Ahsoka because she wasn't even revealed at that point. And I doubt LFL would include her in the last moment, cause we know how much they like to leave character's fates open. Mauser 13:55, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

RIght.I really didnt know what that meant so....yeah. :) --Csbailey1220 03:52, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * This is not a talk forum, it is a discussion involving the improvement of the article about Ahsoka. If you don't have anything valuable to contribute to this page, then please refrain from posting. Gethralkin 06:07, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I think Reeves could have known about Ahsoka before the official release, but I doubt he or anyone else (even Lucas) knew the fate of Ahsoka that time. Reeves could put in a possible appearence: if she won't die, the Torguta could be officially declare as Ahsoka; if she will die, the Torguta is just an unidentified Torguta. With this there could be more tie-in in the EU without the possibility of contradiction. Darth Morrt 20:36, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Again, Ahsoka is not the only Togruta in the galaxy, and trying to figure out how to identify her as the one in CN3 is still speculation and has no bearing on this article. Gethralkin 21:27, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Star Wars The Clone Wars Volume 2: Crash Course
Where in the article would the events of "Crash Course" fit?  ZEM  talk to me!   20:01, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Right after the Battle of Gwori section, I believe. -- CC7567 [ http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/5/5f/Rex.png/20px-Rex.png] talk 20:18, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I added a section about it.  ZEM  talk to me!   21:49, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

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Main Image
I think that this image is better than this image for the main infobox image in this article. Does anyone agree with me? Or has this already been decided? I propose a change.  ZEM  talk to me!   17:50, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * For me the second image is better. I wouldn't change anything, or else there is someone who don't agree with me. ShaakTi1138 19:04, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * None of the images of characters really focus on their entire body (unless they're droids). They usually just focus on their profile (or face) for the most part. I don't see the need to change the image. -- CC7567 [ http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/5/5f/Rex.png/20px-Rex.png] talk 20:28, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * CC7567 is correct. For character infoboxes, headshots or head/torso shots are preferred. Droid infobox images can be full body or cropped in. On alien species infoboxes, a full body shot is preferred where possible. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 21:37, 27 April 2009 (UTC)