Talk:Dac

Battles
Were Daala's attempts at Dac worthy of mention? Or not enought to constitute a battle? --SparqMan 20:11, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Is it referred to as Dac in any official sources? Everywhere else I've seen it called Mon Calamari, including the Databank. --Shane613 18:04, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * I think it's been called Dac here to avoid confusing Mon Cal the planet with Mon Cal the species - Kwenn
 * It's called Dac in both the Jedi Prince series and the recent sourcebook Geonosis and the Outer Rim Worlds. The latter is the one that reconciled the two names as being the Basic and the native name, respectively. Additionally, other recent EU has begun using the name "Dac" when referring to Quarren CIS members (since they would hardly use the name of their rivals). QuentinGeorge 05:53, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, 'Dac' is just not common enough. Few places have mentioned it that way. 'Mon Calamari (planet)' would be much better. Not reason it isn't that already. --Andrettin 21:06, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * How common a name is is irrelevant. Dac is the name given to it by the natives, and thus the official name; Mon Calamari was a name given to it by offworlders. MarcK 22:45, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * So, since a barely-canon kids series and a rpg rulebook say its Dac, we should throw out the 30 or so novels that refer to it as Mon Calamari?2Guns
 * No one's throwing away anything. Pay attention. Mon Calamari is the erroneous human name, Dac is the indigenous name. QuentinGeorge 06:34, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, it's not even erroneous; it's just the regular word for it in Basic, much as the proper English word for Germany is Germany, even though it's called Deutschland in German. jSarek 07:56, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I wasn't exactly clear what I meant. It's a perfectly valid name, but it's mainly used by non-natives, and Quarren find it offensive. QuentinGeorge 08:17, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * They are both valid names, but Mon Calamari is much more accepted. There is no G-Canon source, but we have about 40 C-canon sources refering to it as Mon Cal, and about 2 calling it Dac.  By your logic, Nal Hutta should be listed under Evocar, since that is the indigenous name, and I'm sure the remaining Evocii find Nal Hutta offensive.2Guns
 * Irrelevant, since the Evocii are a) extinct, and b) no longer ruling Nal Hutta. The Quarren and Mon Calamari (both who call the planet Dac) still rule their planet. QuentinGeorge 19:40, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * They would find it offensive...if they weren't extinct. But here at the Star Wars Wiki, we use official names, not the most common name. That's why Trade Federation fighters are called Variable Geometry Self-Propelled Battle Droid instead of Vulture Droids or Droid starfighters in their article. -- SFH 17:04, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Why are we considering Dac the official name, though? Most sources, including the Databank say the official name for the planet is Mon Calamari.2Guns
 * The databank sometimes uses names that are more popular, but not as accurate. For example, what they call the "clone turbo tank," we call the A6 Juggernaut Heavy Assault Vehicle/wheeled. -LtNOWIS 22:17, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * The Databank however does note that the proper name of the "clone turbo tank" is HAVw A6 and that it's commonly called the Juggernaut. Its article on Mon Calamari makes no mention of Dac. Also, no Quarren character has ever (to my knowledge) corrected a human for using the "incorrect" and offensive name for the planet. Though to be fair, the Quarren are rarely used as more than background characters, and I can't remember if there's been any scene in canon of a human calling the planet "Mon Calamari" in the presence of a Quarren. Hopefully some writer will have such a scene in the future and resolve the issue once and for all. 68.47.234.131 06:46, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Actualy this helps alot, i had thought that Dac and Mon Cal were different planets. and i don't think that those are the only two sources that call it Dac.  All the bio's of Admiral Ackbar that i've read say he was born on Dac Needa

Language
According to the Quarren entry on the Databank, the Mon Calamari and the Quarren speak the same language, though the Mon Cals spoke Basic more frequently. However, the article on Dac states that there are two languages. Which source is correct? 222.153.174.56 14:18, 4 Oct 2005

The Empire being driven off Dac
Any source that sheds more light on this battle? Would like to know more, since it would have been quite a significant event in the GCW, especially since they weren't re-subjugated by the Empire. VT-16 00:03, 31 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Mermens?
Was Dac/Mon Calamari once home to the Mermen? What were they? What source are they from? Are they canon? MyNz 22:05, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Name
Are we sure we want to address this as Dac and not Mon Calamari? I mean, even the databank calls it Mon Calamari. --UVnet 23:27, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

i have come to beleive that the planet dac is much like trandosha being called dosha and hsskor by the natives though the mon cal are generally a peacful race in rare casses they can be selfesh and took it opn themselves to name the planet after themselves the otehr sentient race's of the planet probably disagreed probably one of the main sources of the quarren mon cal conflicts
 * Dan Wallace has something to say about the Dac/Mon Cal dispute over at TF.N's forums. Basically, he's of the opinion that it should be called Mon Calamari - his use of "Dac" in Geonosis and the Outer Rim was more of a reference to older sources than a definitive name for the planet. He also suggests Mon Cal is more widely-known, and its use would better benefit the Wookieepedia. I agree. Dac is as much a nickname as "Thrawn" is - Kwenn 15:26, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with the above. (Ulicus 22:40, 14 June 2006 (UTC))
 * Well, then, I am going to be bold and move it to Mon Calamari. --UVnet 22:51, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Dac isn't a nickname; if anything, Mon Calamari is. Dac is the native name. - Lord Hydronium 22:54, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * OK I reverted my moving, but I seriously believe this should be further discussed until a solid resolution is decided. --UVnet 23:00, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The Ackbar entry in the Essential Guide to Characters seems to indicate that "Mon Calamari" is the name of the planet – From the entry: "The Mon Calamari -- who had adopted the name of their world -- were air breathers..."  Muuuuuurgh 05:07, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The discussion have continued over at TFN, mostly on the subject of piped links. Should we not refer to Dac as Mon Calamari in most articles, since that is the most well-known and used name both in- and out-of-universe? Charlii 07:34, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I think it should be moved back to Mon Calamari (planet), see my reasons here. --Azizlight 14:29, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * And see my reasons on why we should leave it at Dac on the same page. Thanos6 00:56, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * This is being tackled once and for all here. jSarek 05:26, 14 August 2006 (UTC)