User talk:Darth Vatrir

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Darth Vatrir, welcome!

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The template you were making
Might I suggest fanonstart as a better title for it? We have a Template:Noncanonstart already. Thanks, &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 02:09, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I also made fanonend to go with it. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 02:13, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * And then I added it to your userpage: noncanonstart puts it in the same category as, for example, characters from licensed comics which were retconned away. So, you shouldn't use it on your user page.  Cheers, &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 02:33, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Lightsaber colors
Hey, I was wondering what the source was for the info you were adding to the "Known blade colors" section of the Lightsaber page. - Angel Blue 451 19:19, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Video game statistics and the input of many of my Star Wars fan friends. user:Darth Vatrir


 * Unless a canon source shows us something its not recommened to add it Jedi Dude 23:24, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Stomtroopers and Lightdaggers
Can you please provide a source for your notation in the lightsaber article which states: Stormtroopers were trained in hand-to-hand combat with lightdaggers. Thanks. -  Son of Nils Talk 23:17, 17 August 2006 (UTC)


 * There is no evidence of this please do not add it again, thanks Jedi Dude 23:23, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

My Additions
Oi...why are all my additions at best, controversial, at worst, erased. Clarification please...
 * Why not ask the users who deleted your additions? Judging by the other comments on your talk page, I suspect it's because you're adding things which are mostly speculation which isn't directly supported by the primary sources. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 02:48, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * It's nothing personal. The thing is, here we try to stick to information that is directly from a canonical source.  Your additions contain a large amount of speculation.  Now, even if your speculation has roots in canon, it's still speculation and therefore not canon, and therefore not appropriate for the article.  Usually, it's a good idea to have a source handy that directly supports what you submit.  Plus, if you are interested, there is a fanon wiki, and I believe the fanon page has a link to it.  Just remember, when submitting content here, always be sure it can be verified by a canonical source. - Angel Blue 451 03:35, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

The Beauty of it all...
You know, the beauty of having your userpages Fanon history set in a far away area gives you leave to be creative and do what you want. Anyone agree?
 * Nope. Go to the Fanon Wiki if you want to do that kinda stuff - This is an encyclopedia for canon stuff. .  .  .  .  03:22, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I just mean that its kind of cool to have fanon histories on your userpages, not going crazy and infecting Wookieepedia with a crapload of fanon. I'm saying that its kind of fun to creat little personal histories on your userpage. Firstly, as I said, you can be creative, but it also shows others what kind of person you are and how to work (or deal) with you. user:Darth Vatrir
 * Eh. I just prefer to get straight to the point. .  .  .  .  00:12, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, we'll leave it at that. Lord Darth Vatrir

Synth-crystal longevity

 * Your claim about the short-lived nature of synth-crystals has been removed until you provide a canonical source for that particular claim. Cutch 18:43, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Now I remember where I got it from. The Revenge of the Sith Visual Dictionary. I don't remember which page (my copy got stolen and I have yet to replace it), but I'm pretty sure its mentioned on the Darth Vader pg that Synth-crystals exhaust their properties faster than natural ones. The rest I just assumed. user:Darth Vatrir

Preview button
I would like to thank you for your contributions to Wookieepedia. It is recommended that you use the preview button before you save; this helps you find any errors you have made, and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. Thanks again. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 03:02, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Darth Vader Dual-phase saber source
Greetings. You mentioned in the lightsaber discussion page that Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader identifies Vader's saber as having a dual-phase blade. As my copy was borrowed from the library and returned some time ago, would you mind citing the quote and a page number where I can direct others? This is an item of great contention that no one has yet been able to irrefutably resolve. Thanks!  Son of Nils Talk 02:05, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks for the source! I read right over that... who knew.   Son of Nils Talk 16:41, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

HI
Im Aron Skywalker, the co-manager of the [| Friday Night Fight] and i just wanna say its really good to see you on the page, we need more voters and i would very much appricate it if you could spread the word about the page when ever possible. i was lookin at your userpage and i think that black lightsabers would b rely cool aswell! and also the reason (if u didnt alredy know) those lightsabers are similar is because (being the same person) after loosing his lightsaber on mustafar he kept the same form of lightdsaber combat and that hilt helps/matches with it. also he might of liked that style of lightsaber! :-) by the way that wasnt anakins first lightsaber, he lost his other one at the battle of Jabiim and i think agen at the battle of geonosis (as seen in attack of the clones). Nice to see you on the page and keep voting, watch out for round two and winners on friday.

Merging
Please stop merging all the melee weapon articles. That kind of major action requires discussion first. -- Darth Culator  (Talk)(Kills) 20:44, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry...
 * I just meant to merge all the vibroblade variants, because they're all technically the same thing, and I went too far. So...yeah, sorry about that. Darth Vatrir

Custom Userboxes

 * If you would like any user boxes made just see my talk page. Thanks. -- Scwhinky Communicate 18:15, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Darth Vatrir

Lightsabre image
It's possible to revert an image to a previous version by clicking the (rev) link next to the version you want on its page. I did that with Image:EIII.JPG and re-uploaded the lightsabre image at Image:EIIIsaber.JPG, if you don't mind. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 19:34, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

MAJOR MESSAGE, READ, EVERYONE!
I have had a revelation. I have decided to write an expanded universe novel about Darth Plagueis (and hope I get George Lucas/Lucasfilm to endorse it). Now, I'm holding this little vote on what heavily debated starwars fact I should include or alude to, please give me suggestions, I'M BEGGING YOU! (Oh, yeah. How are adoptions carried out, my book will start with one.) Darth Vatrir

List: Well, I've just started. I'd still like some more suggestions if you please. Darth Vatrir
 * I've already decided to mention Palpatine's first name. Darth Vatrir
 * You could perhaps draw a link between Plagueis and the mysterious True Sith? --Imp 03:10, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I dunno, maybe steal half a dozen names from SuperShadow and then make them completely different from what he wrote? Enochf 07:45, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Which Title
For the book, please vote on which is the best. Darth Vatrir


 * Insidious Plague


 * Dark Lord: The Appreticeship of Sidious

First Draft Excerp
Please, tell me what you think of it, I value your opinions. (Remember, this is just the first draft)

Ethril was awakened early that morning. Taken into a large, square room on the sixth level, he sat on the polished floor and waited for his master to speak.

“Ethril Palpatine, you have been brought hear for a reason. You are to be initiated into the Order of the Sith Lords. You have no choice in the matter, and it will not be easy. I will torment you, destroy you, and remake you. You have the highest level of midichlorians that I have ever seen in a life form. This means that you have the potential to become one of the most powerful Sith Lords.” “Yes, master”

Plagueis was fairly surprised that Ethril had latched on to every word, and seemed to understand. When his Kalee mistress; Darth Sarmue had initiated him, he barely understood her, initially. He caught on quite quickly when the training started.

“Master?”

Ethril’s voice shook Plagueis out of his reverie. Turning to Ethril, Plagueis spoke.

“Yes, child.”

“What are midichlorians?”

“Microscopic life forms that reside in all living cells. Beings sensitive to the Force, granting us our knowledge of it, speaking to us. When you learn to quiet your mind, you will hear them.”

Giving himself fully to the Dark Side, Plagueis began to recite the ancient command, an order given to all Sith initiates since the training of Darth Zannah.

“Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you.” “My strengths, my fears, my values and my cravings…” “Yes”

Ethril shuddered as Plagueis’s voice seemed to gain a demonic undertone. Risking a glance at the Muun’s eyes, he saw that they had turned a sickly, sulfuric yellow. However, as intimidating as those eyes were, they compelled Ethril to obey the shadow’s command.

“My strength is my mind, my fear is the abyss, I value and crave little.”

The shadow spoke again.

“Child, you have heard of the Jedi, have you not?” “Yes, master.” “The Jedi would have you believe that anger leads to evil, but it in fact leads to enlightenment. You must embrace your anger, let it flow through you. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate leads to power.” “Yes, my master.” “The teachings of the Sith are dangerous, Child, but so is every path worth taking. You must first learn to control your emotions, many a Sith had died because of anger run amok.” “Yes, master.” “There is a place in your mind, Child, as briskly clean as ice on a mountain top. Find this cool and remote place within your mind, breath that clean, icy air and regard your emotions.”

As his master spoke, Ethril Palpatine felt his consciousness drawn to that place in his mind. Looking at his emotions from that place, Ethril regarded them, dissected and reassembled them. They were burning, hot in his hands, but they were undeveloped and had no hope to cloud his mind yet. Making it so they could never cloud his mind, but still fuel him, he became aware of the Force.

In his minds eye, he saw an infinite, broad, warping expanse. Split down the middle between darkness and light with a small patch of grey in the middle. Following his master’s call, he entered the shadows, and saw the greatest depth of power ever.

Plagueis, sensing this spoke, “Ethril Palpatine, kneel before me.”

Ethril did so.

“Are you ready?” Plagueis asked. The shadow on the floor answered, “Yes, master Plagueis.” “Is it your will to forever join the Order of the Sith Lords?” There was no hesitation from the kneeling, three year old shadow, “Yes. I pledge myself to your teachings. I give myself over to the Dark Side.” “Good. Very good. Henceforth, you shall be known as Darth…” Plagueis paused, questioning the Force. Receiving his answer, he spoke. “Darth Sidious.”

Dammit, Just Remembered
James Luceno is writing a Plagueis novel, and he's probably going to finish before me, so I'll have to write about something else. Dammit, and I had such a good start, to. Darth Vatrir

Awesome Dude!
Oh man! You have the best userboxes! Mad props to you, man! Could you help me make some sometime?

The Golden Age
I am very happy, I have hit my golden age of Star Wars book aquisition. I have aquired four in the last month. I know that this is a fairly pointless topic, but I wanted to announce it, feel free to congradulate me. Darth Vatrir

Lightsaber forms

 * Please refrain from adding un-verified information to the lightsaber forms. Known practitioners must have canonical proof, and rumored practitioners must have reasonable evidence for citation. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 17:44, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * And since I've had to fix a whole bunch of false information, particularly in the practitioners galleries, much of which was added by you, I will consider blocking you for fanon if you do it again, per our blocking policy. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 17:55, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Now, what exactly are we talking about, what mistake or misinterpretation did I put in? Darth Vatrir