Wookieepedia:EduCorps/Meeting 20/Log

[23:00:17] Welcome to meeting 20. [23:00:42] Does anyone have anything for discussion? [23:01:07] Nope [23:01:13] Okay. [23:01:23] On to the old articles then. [23:01:43] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/221st_Mechanized_Assault_Group [23:01:43] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/221st_Mechanized_Assault_Group [23:01:43] No change. [23:01:59] Kill. [23:02:03] Kill [23:02:26] SE and CP vote kill. [23:02:40] 221st killed. [23:02:53] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/71st_Elite_Mechanized_Assault_Group [23:02:53] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/71st_Elite_Mechanized_Assault_Group [23:02:53] No change. [23:03:03] Kill. [23:03:06] Kill [23:03:26] SE and CP vote kill. [23:03:38] 71st killed. [23:03:50] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/88-R_Nightscreamer [23:03:50] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/88-R_Nightscreamer [23:04:00] The stuff originally listed has been fixed, but there are a few other things that I noticed. [23:04:17] The BTS sections in these now need to be sourced as the information you added is not self-sourcing. [23:04:17] While it is probably not clear enough to go in the body, Cradossk's intro mentions that the updated edition overviews recently introduced trade tools. This needs to be mentioned somehow in the article; the BTS would probably be the best place. [23:04:17] The particle shield for the 88-R also protects against wind. [23:04:42] Since these were not part of the original probation, I'm going to vote extend. [23:04:53] Yeah, sounds good [23:05:02] Cade? [23:05:09]  in the middle of something atm [23:05:11]  give me a sec [23:05:14] Okay. [23:05:20]  EJ has my vopte [23:05:27] All right. [23:05:43] So, 88-R extended. [23:05:57] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/88th_Mechanized_Assault_Group [23:05:57] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/88th_Mechanized_Assault_Group [23:05:57] No change. [23:06:11] There are a lot of these. [23:06:20] Kill [23:06:22] But I don't feel comfortable doing a group kill. [23:06:24] Kill [23:06:37] 88th killed. [23:06:49] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/98th_Elite_Mechanized_Assault_Group [23:06:49] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/98th_Elite_Mechanized_Assault_Group [23:06:49] No change. [23:07:02] All right, I think this is the last one of these kind. [23:07:05] Kill. [23:07:08] Kill [23:07:17] 98th killed. [23:07:33] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/ABP-980_bio-light_panel [23:07:33] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/ABP-980_bio-light_panel [23:07:33] The original issues have been corrected. New issues can be handled on the GAN page. [23:07:47] is that a keep then? [23:08:09] Yeah, it has a few issues, but since it is a GAN they should get fixed. [23:08:25] kk [23:08:29] If the GAN fails, we will have to review it again. [23:08:57] ABP-980 kept. [23:09:00] that's what I was thinkinh [23:09:30] We will just bog things down if we add objections that are being handled on the GAN. [23:09:53] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/BAX-7_landspeeder [23:09:53] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/BAX-7_landspeeder [23:09:53] The stuff originally listed has been fixed, but there are a few other things that I noticed. [23:10:06] The BTS sections in these now need to be sourced as the information you added is not self-sourcing. [23:10:06] While it is probably not clear enough to go in the body, Cradossk's intro mentions that the updated edition overviews recently introduced trade tools. This needs to be mentioned somehow in the article; the BTS would probably be the best place. [23:10:20] Basically, this is another thing that I think should be extended. [23:10:38] also, its 233 words [23:10:53] Yeah, he's maxed out on GANs though. [23:10:53] going to need intro [23:11:00] ah [23:11:09] We can't kill based on word limit alone. [23:11:18] extend then, but ask for intro [23:11:27] Okay. [23:11:41] BAX-7 extended. [23:11:50] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/BTL-S3B_Y-wing_starfighter [23:11:50] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/BTL-S3B_Y-wing_starfighter [23:12:11] Corellian Premier checked and did not find this mentioned in the book. The link that was found was probably just an auto-complete error. [23:12:16] spare if it's not mentioned [23:12:21] Keep. [23:12:28] *keep [23:12:31] BTL-S3B kept. [23:12:46] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/%22Dumb%22_Energy_Quarrel [23:12:46] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/%22Dumb%22_Energy_Quarrel [23:12:56] Still needs an update. I'll handle it fairly soon, but it will definitely be a GAN after the update. [23:13:12] I didn't fix this so that we could just kill it. [23:13:22] kill then [23:13:40] "Dumb" Energy Quarrel killed. [23:14:19] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/GRGC-800_grav_mill [23:14:20] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/GRGC-800_grav_mill [23:14:20] Ayrehead fixed the original stuff, but since he has not taken this one to the GAN page yet, I am going to bring up more issues. [23:14:35] The part about it being frequently available in cities and spaceports cannot all be sourced to Page 31. [23:14:35] The image is of very poor quality based off what I am seeing in the book. [23:14:51] Based on this, I am voting extend. [23:15:02] extend then [23:15:15] GRGC-800 extended. [23:15:29] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hiding_Cube_SCT-1000 [23:15:29] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Hiding_Cube_SCT-1000 [23:15:29] The original issues have been corrected. New issues can be handled on the GAN page. [23:15:40] Basically, this is the same as the earlier one. [23:15:56] It is already a GAN, so it will be handled there. [23:15:57] keep then [23:15:59] Keep. [23:16:13] Hiding Cube SCT-1000 kept. [23:16:26] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ilosian [23:16:26] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Ilosian [23:16:26] No change. [23:16:43] Kill. [23:16:59]  Okay, I'm here. [23:17:00]  Kill. [23:17:10] kill [23:17:15] Ilosian killed. [23:17:22]  Got caught up in a lengthy Voidstar match. [23:17:30] Ah [23:17:35] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/InstaMist_generator [23:17:35] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/InstaMist_generator [23:17:35] The original issues have been corrected. New issues can be handled on the GAN page. [23:17:55] Again, there isn't any point in continuing two review processes. [23:18:00] keep then [23:18:02] Keep. [23:18:05]  Keep [23:18:17] InstaMist generator kept. [23:18:25] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/K26_explosive_antivehicle_rocket [23:18:25] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/K26_explosive_antivehicle_rocket [23:18:25] No change. [23:18:29] Kill. [23:18:50] kill [23:19:20]  Kill. [23:19:26] K26 killed. [23:19:41] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kashyyykian_giant_weaver [23:19:41] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Kashyyykian_giant_weaver [23:19:41] No change, still needs to be merged. [23:19:49] Kill. [23:19:55]  Kill. [23:20:04] pew pew [23:20:11] Giant weaver killed. [23:20:21] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lumablast_rocket [23:20:21] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Lumablast_rocket [23:20:21] Still needs an update. I'll handle it fairly soon, but it will definitely be a GAN after the update. [23:20:33] Kill. [23:20:40] kill [23:21:39]  Kill. [23:21:48] Lumablast rocket killed. [23:22:02] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Meiloorun [23:22:02] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Meiloorun [23:22:02] No change. [23:22:11]  Kill. [23:22:19] Kill. [23:22:25] kill [23:22:31] Meiloorun killed. [23:22:34]  Kill. [23:22:37]  sorry [23:22:47] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Scintil_vine [23:22:47] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Scintil_vine [23:22:47] No change. [23:22:54] Kill. [23:23:05] kill [23:23:08]  Kill. [23:23:14] Scintil vine killed. [23:23:21] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tass_root [23:23:21] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Tass_root [23:23:21] No change. [23:23:24] Kill. [23:23:30]  Kill. [23:23:36] kill [23:23:43] Tass root killed. [23:24:01] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tellanadan_moonflower [23:24:01] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Tellanadan_moonflower [23:24:04]  Kill. [23:24:13] literally just fixed that [23:24:18] <Cade> bah [23:24:44] Okay, keep then. [23:24:50] <Cade> Was distracted by Britta from Community's lack of clothes [23:24:52] keep [23:25:25] Tellanadan moonflower kept. [23:25:33] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tuskbeast_pike [23:25:33] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Tuskbeast_pike [23:25:33] No change. [23:25:36] Kill. [23:25:44] kill [23:26:13] <Cade> Kill. [23:26:22] Tuskbeast pike killed. [23:26:29] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vendaran [23:26:29] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Vendaran [23:26:29] No change. [23:26:34] Kill. [23:26:42] <Cade> Kill. [23:26:48] kill [23:26:59] Vendaran killed. [23:27:09] All right, there go last meeting's articles. [23:27:14] Now for the new ones. [23:27:22] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Abatrarg [23:27:29] Needs an update. [23:27:48] Probe. [23:27:49] probity [23:28:17] <Cade> Probe [23:28:25] Abatrarg probed. [23:28:31] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bochaba [23:28:31] Reference one needs to establish why the events of this article occurred during that time period. The stuff about it taking a single year seems to conflict with this range if I remember the story correctly. [23:28:31] The timeframe for his death is infobox exclusive. [23:28:31] The rival Hutt who claimed HK should have an article and the HK owner succession box should have this Hutt as the next owner. [23:29:11] Hey CP. [23:29:11] <Cade> Probe. [23:29:15] probe then [23:29:21] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bochaba [23:29:21] Reference one needs to establish why the events of this article occurred during that time period. The stuff about it taking a single year seems to conflict with this range if I remember the story correctly. [23:29:21] The timeframe for his death is infobox exclusive. [23:29:21] The rival Hutt who claimed HK should have an article and the HK owner succession box should have this Hutt as the next owner. [23:29:37] This is a new article we are on CP. [23:29:43] Probe. [23:30:06] <CorellianPremier> yep, proe [23:30:20] Bochaba probed. [23:30:31] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Borna [23:30:31] From the sources, there is nothing I can see that states he was alive during the Rebellion era. [23:30:31] The part about it being dark and moody should probably be mentioned as Jerec's opinion. [23:30:59] probe [23:31:02] probe [23:31:13] <CorellianPremier> probe [23:31:28] Borna probed. [23:31:49] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Braised_fork_tart [23:31:49] The article should say a timeframe for when Baobab's book was released. [23:31:49] "The dish contained thorns which had to be removed before consumption, otherwise causing pain to the consumer." Nothing I can see explicitly states that this is the case. From the description, you could probably say that Humans couldn't eat the thorns, but the same might not be true for Hutts. [23:31:49] The source mentions that Hutt cuisine is casual and served in bowls and eaten in random order. [23:31:49] Utensils are optional, but he recommends gloves. [23:31:49] He also states that Hutt cuisine is expensive. [23:31:49] From the Scourge article I don't think that 19 ABY can be sourced directly to the book. [23:31:49] The Phrase Book information cannot all be sourced to page 36. [23:32:04] probe [23:32:11] Probe [23:32:12] <CorellianPremier> alright then, probe [23:32:33] Braised fork tart probed. [23:33:02] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Core_Foodstuffs [23:33:02] The New Republic era is infobox-exclusive. [23:33:02] The Atlas release date will need another source, which will require the BTS to be sourced. Dark Empire Sourcebook includes the month, so that won't need a separate source. [23:33:26] <Cade> Probe [23:33:32] ^ [23:33:35] <CorellianPremier> probe [23:33:38] probe [23:33:45] Core Foodstuffs probed. [23:34:08] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Homiiz [23:34:08] The article includes "his" and says that the character's gender is unspecified. [23:34:08] The timeframe of the Yoda comic book should at least be mentioned in the BTS. [23:34:08] The link in the reference is dead. [23:34:54] probe [23:35:05] Probe. [23:35:12] <Cade> Probe [23:35:17] <CorellianPremier> probe [23:35:29] Darth Homiiz probed. [23:35:34] I'm combining three that have the exact same issues. [23:35:34] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/DRN-592 [23:35:34] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/MUQ-751 [23:35:34] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Z23-Y75 [23:35:53] Unless the game states otherwise somewhere, I do not think that it can be assumed that this droid was a B1 battle droid. The droid could easily be could easily be an OOM droid. This will affect a lot of information in the article. If the droid model cannot be determined, the BTS should mention that the game did not make the droid model clear and mention the two models. [23:35:53] I do not believe that Galactic Battlegrounds provides a date from the Clone Wars. [23:35:53] Does the droid have any dialogue if it is placed in a player level? [23:35:53] The part about the droid being a commander should probably be included in the main body, since the regular story did not include him at all. [23:35:53] The appearances section should note that he did not appear in the main game. [23:36:18] <Cade> Probe [23:36:22] probe [23:36:36] <CorellianPremier> probe until I can work on it [23:36:43] Probe [23:36:56] Battle droids probed. [23:37:07] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gondar [23:37:07] The infobox states that the species smelled bad, while the body only says that their pits smelled bad. If both are true, they should both be mentioned in the body. [23:37:07] Tantel armor and its use of Gondar tusks should first be mentioned separately of Lando, since there Galaxies shows that the tusks are a common feature of the armor. This could replace the mention of the tusks being used in armor, unless a source states that other armor used the tusks. In any event, mentioning the Tantel armor only with Lando makes it sound like his suit is the only Tantel armor with the tusks. [23:37:07] The description of the tusks should be mentioned separately of the Tantel armor section for the same reason. [23:37:07] I am confused as to why the first part of the body needs two references like that. [23:37:07] I want to make sure that the 4 ABY and 12 ABY dates can be directly sourced to the novels. I'm betting these dates were used based off the fact that the source was at the same time as the movie or the source said so many years after Endor. [23:37:07] From what I can see, Taster's Choice does not explictly identify the individual as Lando or Tamtel Skreej. All information not in the short story will need another source. [23:37:07] Return of the Jedi cannot be used to source that the tusks were used in armor as it does not use the term Gondar tusk. [23:37:07] The BTS needs to be fully sourced and all release dates should be checked and sourced appropriately. [23:37:42] <Cade> Probe [23:37:45] Probe [23:37:48] <CorellianPremier> probe [23:38:01] yep, probe [23:38:05] Gondar probed. [23:38:08] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jumerian [23:38:08] Needs to be checked for Atlas extrapolation. [23:38:15] probe [23:38:16] Probe. [23:38:40] <CorellianPremier> Sigh, probe [23:39:04] <Cade> Probe [23:39:06] Jumerian probed. [23:39:11] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Qonto [23:39:11] Page 202 of the Atlas cannot be used to source the system as their homeworld. This should be handled in a similar manner to Gaxxan brain-slug and other articles. [23:39:11] The second part of the last sentence of the BTS needs to be checked for accuracy. [23:39:11] I would assume the Riders of the Maelstrom information was reprinted in Classic Adventures: Volume Three, but someone should check to make sure nothing was changed. [23:39:29] <Cade> Probe [23:39:33] Probe [23:39:40] probe [23:39:43] <CorellianPremier> probe [23:39:49] Qonto probed. [23:40:00] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Refresher_Booth [23:40:00] While the infobox includes Rebellion era, the current information in the history section does not clearly specify that the device existed during the Rebellion era. Page 2 says that the catalog was for the time period between Episode IV and Episode V, so this more specific information should be used in the history section. [23:40:00] There is also nothing I can see in the book that specifies an April 1995 release date, so that's going to need another source. [23:40:00] The availability information on page 4 shows that the item was available in large cities and spaceports. [23:40:00] As the entry does not say that bacta was a medical substance, please find another source for that. [23:40:00] The appearance of the Refresher Booth should be included in the article. [23:40:00] Additionally, the image used in this article is far darker than the image that is in the book. I believe that the quality is low enough to require replacement. [23:40:15] <CorellianPremier> probe [23:40:19] Probe [23:40:21] yep [23:40:42] <Cade> Probe [23:40:43] Refresher Booth probed. [23:40:49] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sand_gizzars [23:40:49] The article should say a timeframe for when Baobab's book was released. [23:40:49] From the Scourge article I don't think that 19 ABY can be sourced directly to the book. [23:40:49] The source mentions that Hutt cuisine is casual and served in bowls and eaten in random order. [23:40:49] Utensils are optional, but he recommends gloves. [23:40:49] He also states that Hutt cuisine is expensive. [23:40:49] "Served as an entrée" and "when eaten if it was not served in the correct fashion." Where is this in the Phrase Book? I see it mentioned that sand gizzars are abrasive, but I'm not seeing anything saying that there is a way they can be served where they are not abrasive. [23:40:49] The Phrase Book information cannot all be sourced to page 36. [23:41:23] kill [23:41:25] *probe [23:41:29] <CorellianPremier> Ok, probe [23:41:33] <Cade> Probe [23:41:39] probe [23:41:44] Sand gizzars probed. [23:42:00] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Scurrier_tips [23:42:00] Due to the second sentence of the BTS, the entire BTS needs to be sourced. [23:42:00] The article should say a timeframe for when Baobab's book was released in the body. [23:42:00] Baobab recommends gloves when eating Hutt food. [23:42:00] The last sentence of the body has way too much information crammed into it. It should be broken up and described more thouroughly. [23:42:00] The Phrase Book information cannot all be sourced to page 36. [23:42:32] <CorellianPremier> let's probe it [23:42:38] Probe. [23:42:42] probe another ayre nom [23:43:07] <Cade> Probe [23:43:08] Scurrier tips probed. [23:43:12] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Strained_keebadas [23:43:12] The Keebada article exists, although the information in the article is not from the listed source. In the book, Rokko states the following: ""A Sullustan grifter brings to me a droid with an unusual penchant for gambling, and who just happens to know the Jedi who comes to me earlier, offering another moneymaking deal. This can hardly be a coincidence. Something about this stinks like a ripe keebada." The keebada [23:43:12] should be mentioned in the article somehow. It is not the dish, but it is obviously related. [23:43:12] The article should say a timeframe for when Baobab's book was released. [23:43:12] From the Scourge article I don't think that 19 ABY can be sourced directly to the book. [23:43:12] Baobab recommends gloves when eating Hutt food. [23:43:12] The third sentence of the body has way too much information crammed into it. It should be broken up and described more thouroughly. [23:43:12] The Phrase Book information cannot all be sourced to page 36. [23:43:52] Probe. [23:43:53] <Cade> Probe [23:44:03] <CorellianPremier> probe [23:44:09] probity [23:44:19] Strained keebadas probed. [23:44:28] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Traffic_Division [23:44:28] The release date for the novel needs another source. [23:44:28] The 1st appearance tag should not be used in the sources. I'd change it, but I'm not sure if it appeared elsewhere later. [23:44:28] There is a lot of information in Lieutenant Ia's entry in Coruscant and the Core Worlds that is not mentioned and should be included. There are are also a few minor inaccuracies in the information, but there are too many things for me to list here. [23:44:28] The information in Ia's entry does not mention the RapidResponse police speeder, but mentions an armored security swoop. As it says she is only armed with a blaster pistol, I doubt these are the same thing. [23:44:28] It should be checked to see if those dates in the body can be directly sourced to those novels. [23:44:33] Probe [23:45:08] <CorellianPremier> probe [23:45:17] probe [23:45:35] Traffic Division probed. [23:45:39] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Unidentified_flying_serpent [23:45:39] The link for reference three is dead. [23:45:39] Does the episode actually show it flying or does it just have wings? The body doesn't mention flight that I can see. [23:45:50] Probe. [23:46:08] <Cade> Probe [23:46:24] probe [23:46:25] <CorellianPremier> probe [23:46:33] Flying serpent probed. [23:46:34] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Unidentified_umbrella-like_creature [23:46:34] The link for reference three is dead. [23:46:34] Does anything state that it is non-sentient? The creature appears to be wearing clothes. [23:46:38] Probe. [23:46:48] <Cade> Probe [23:47:06] <CorellianPremier> probe [23:47:07] probe [23:47:13] Umbrella thing probed. [23:47:20] Last one. [23:47:29] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vanus_Cruor [23:47:29] From my copy of the article, there are a few minor details that were left out of this article. [23:47:29] The link in the sources section not longer works. [23:47:29] The reference should be more specific. [23:47:29] From what I can see, the original article did not make any explicit reference to the Cold War. There may be other sources that can be used to place the subject in the war though. [23:47:29] The BTS should be updated since the game has been released. [23:47:32] Probe. [23:47:52] <CorellianPremier> def. probe [23:48:02] probe [23:48:29] Vanus Cruor probed. [23:48:37] All right, now for meeting duties. [23:48:46] I'm on scheduling. [23:48:56] And SE is on paperwork. [23:49:08] Thanks for coming.