Talk:ARC-77

what's the source for his designation?--Xilentshadow900 19:06, 6 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * The Star Wars Insider 84 online supplement on Hyperspace; I would provide a quote but I'm not sure if that would be entirely legal. MarcK 19:51, 6 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Also, it says it in the Guide to the Grand Army of the Republic in the same Insider issue. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 21:46, 6 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * What proof do we have that Fordo is the indeed the clone, whom I believe to be a mere commander as opposed to an ARC, seen in the Clone Wars cartoon defending Coruscant against the Separatists??? To be honest, this is the only place I've seen that or anything that could even be construed as that. In fact, this is the only place I've seen Fordo mentioned beyond his actions on Hypori.
 * I haven't seen any proof that Fordo was that clone. But, if he was, would that armor be Phase II ARC trooper armor? Cmdr. J. Nebulax 13:27, 12 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * It was in the insider 84 supplement. They said fordo had Jaig eyes, so I got to thinking, well, who has jaig eyes? then i realised it must be in volume two, and there he was. the avatars on the star wars site list him as a clone shocktrooper.--Xilentshadow900 16:54, 12 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, Fordo wasn't a shock trooper, as we all know. We was an ARC trooper. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 18:11, 12 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Yep. It is possible that the ARC troopers were reformed as shock troopers though. Is there a picture of an ARC with phase two armor? just wondering.--Xilentshadow900 00:11, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * I was assuming that ARC-77's armor in Volume Two was ARC Phase II armor. Also, the ARCs didn't become shock troopers. They stayed as ARCs. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 00:13, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Hm. Here's something interesting. Karen Traviss and ryan kaufman said that "The true ARCs worked alone". its a monkey wrench, but still...--Xilentshadow900 00:33, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Maybe the Null ARCs work alone, but the standard ARCs work in squads, as seen in The Clone Wars microseries. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 12:39, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * I dont think that's the case, because thats why they made republic commandos. The makers of that game said "If you want something done, send an army of clone troopers, one ARC trooper, or a squad of commandos"--Xilentshadow900 14:36, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, in all of the images I've seen, ARCs worked with either other ARC troopers or standard troopers. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 16:03, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * What about the defense of naboo? Alpha worked with Anakin there. And on the battle of jabiim, he worked with Obi-wan. ARCs didnt work in squads, with the battle of muunilisnt being the exception, because the clone wars series didnt really grasp the continuity.--Xilentshadow900 21:32, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * You have a point there. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 23:38, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * There's no such thing as phase II ARC trooper armor. ARC troopers, just as Republic commandos, retained the armor issued to them at the war's onset even as their brethren in the regular army made the transition to phase II armor. Once more, ARCs do indeed operate alone, not in squads (although they do work together when the situation calls for it, such as on Hypori), and report only to their Jedi Generals. They operate outside of the command structure of the GAR. -- AdmThrawn --


 * I thought as much, but that does not explain Fordo. Perhaps he was phased into the command structure of the army as a shocktrooper?--Xilentshadow900 20:06, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Doubtful. And AmThrawn, the reason why we're suggesting that there was Phase II ARC armor was due to Fordo's (if that was him) armor in Volume Two of the Clone Wars mircoseries. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 20:29, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * The fact remains: there is no proof or evidence that Fordo and the mystery clone on Coruscant are on in the same. In my opinion, the Coruscant clone was a mere clone commander, like Cody or Thire, as opposed to a commando. -- AdmThrawn --
 * I agree. However, there always is the possibility that they are the same. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 21:27, 15 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Um, there IS proof. The Star Wars Insider 84 online supplement on Hyperspace. They say the guy with Jaig eyes is Fordo. Its really simple.--Xilentshadow900 22:36, 15 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Here's the quote: "...in Vol. 2 of the Clone Wars Animated Series, Captain Fordo sports a painted design on his helmet. These are 'jaig eyes,' representing the eyes of a Mandalorian hawk known as a jaig'alaar. And they were an honor bestowed upon the best of the clone soldiers for particular acts of bravery. We couldn't fit this into the article due to space, but it was a fun piece of trivia to add." Cmdr. J. Nebulax 00:35, 16 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * As a Hyperspace subsriber, I'm suprised I missed that. My mistake. I still maintain that, however, that ARCs did not make the transistion to phase II armor, and that Fordo's armor is an anomaly among the ARCs. -- AdmThrawn --
 * Well, remember, he was an ARC captain. It is possible, however unlikely, that as the number of ARCS decreased and they started using them individually, rather than in squads, that they phased fordo into the regular army.--Xilentshadow900 11:23, 17 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * I highly doubt it. In my opinion, Fordo, being a captain, was likely given temporary command of a company of men and tasked with defending that bridge until reinforcements could arrive. And for the last time, ARCS DIDN'T OPERATE IN SQUADS! That's what freakin' made them freakin' ARCs. They operated alone, behind enemy lines. The fact that they had to fight through an entire droid army only to come face-to-face with General Grievous was the sole reason that we saw them in a squad on Hypori. -- AdmThrawn --