Talk:Vitiate

(Sith my ride&#39;s Return 00:06, 23 October 2008 (UTC))I thought sadow was killed by Freedon Nadd. Actually, Naga Sadow's death by Freedon Nadd is only mentioned, but it was never depicted, so anything could happen. However, I hope it isn't Sadow. To me, he's the idiot that got the Sith Empire destroyed in the first place. -- Michaeldsuarez  ( Activate Holocron ) 18:20, 23 October 2008 (UTC) EDIT: Apparantly, the book mentions different sources saying different things about Nadd's learning of the Dark Side. One of which is an apprenticeship to the spirit of Sadow. Hmm, if Sadow somehow continued his existence past this, could he have done a Palpatine, and resurrected into new bodies? VT-16 21:05, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * He was. And I saw nothing in the source leading me to believe it's Naga Sadow. I think I'll removed that bit soon.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 00:14, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It's obviously Ludo Kressh. Who was the reigning Dark Lord when Sadow returned from Republic space? Kressh. Who fled from Korriban with his entire army at the conclusion of the battle? Kressh. 71.61.97.8 02:38, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * http://pc.ign.com/articles/922/922656p1.html seems to pretty much confirm that it is Naga Sadow. Especially "Sadow and many other Dark Lords went into hiding beyond the boundaries of known space.", and later, "With his fleets ready and his fifth columnists in place in the Outer Rim, Sadow finally launched his attack." 07:16, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The article does say that Sadow is the emperor. I don't understand how this will fit, since Freedon Nadd did kill him. It seems that there's a doppleganger involved. My guess is that Nadd killed Sadow, and a leading Dark Lord of the True Sith took the title of emperor and used Sadow's name to scare the Jedi and the Republic. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 11:12, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * This info appears only in IGN's article. On the official site there is no indication of him being Naga Sadow. I think that IGN messed up things a bit. QuiGonJinn  (Comlink)[[Image:Quigonheadshot.jpg|25px]]
 * To Grand Moff Tranner: there are a number of ways he could have eluded death, Palpatine's body-swapping and old-fashioned cyborgism are two alternatives that come to mind. If he did indeed die, perhaps a clone? Still, my guess is as good as yours. We'll just have to see whether this was a mistake by IGN or indeed the truth. Would be really cool if it really was Sadow, though. 14:42, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Apparantly Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force now all but severs any connection Nadd had to Sadow himself, furthering the "maybe he did live" hints from the NEC. I guess since the game was being worked on from 2005 and that book was made in late 2007, it was a hint at his continued existence.

Does Naga Sadow's tomb on Korriban actually have a sarcophagus anywhere (KOTOR I)? I've never thought about it till now, so I don't know, but I can't remember one. All I remember being in the final chamber is the star map and the statue with the ceremonial sabre, and you'd expect it to be there. Even if there is no sarcophagus it wouldn't be proof, but it could have been a hint left by the game designers. If I'm right, then Naga Sadow's tomb is the only one in both games without an actual body. Jon Ralen 02:19, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Checked the actual Naga Sadow page, and it says he survived, went to Yavin IV hoping to form a new base, and eventually put himself in hibernation. So nothing to stop him having one last crack at the galaxy before retreating to Yavin IV, but nothing to confirm it yet either. Jon Ralen 02:31, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Your dates are mixed up. He survives the Great Sith War, and flees to Yavin. Not the one in this game, which takes place 1,400 years later. VT-16 08:31, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

You're right, I did get a timeline wrong, but not the which war timeline. I forgot about Freedon Nadd killing him/his spirit well before KOTOR I, let alone SWTOR, even though that was only mentioned 3 or 4 times in the discussion. Bad day for me, never mind :) Jon Ralen 08:54, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

darth andeddu
can he be darth andeddu??

andeddu lived in an unknown era and it is speculated that he may can be the first darth: who means in rakata triumph over the death

DARK LORD IN THE SITH
should he really have his name over every sith between his downfall and rise again, if he was in exile then he wasnt the dark lord of the sith, it should be removed untill more is revealed. Here's why it could be Naga Sadow: the ancient Sith culture is similar to ancient Egypt in many ways. Who says the Sith don't make tombs to themselves before they die, just like the Egyptians do! Also, Kressh can't be the Sith Emperor because his corpse is found in the Secret Tomb on Korriban in KOTOR II!
 * There wasn't any downfall, he just went into hiding with his loyal Sith, so he was their leader as stated in the sucession box. QuiGonJinn Always remember, your focus determines your reality.[[Image:Qui-Gon negtc.jpg|20px]] 18:50, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, and by the way, sign your posts with four tildes. QuiGonJinn Always remember, your focus determines your reality.[[Image:Qui-Gon negtc.jpg|20px]] 18:51, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry to burst your bubble, but Naga Sadow was killed by Freedon Nadd on Yavin IV. Therefore Lord Sadow cannot be the Sith Emperor. It seems the Sith Emperor was Lord Sadow's contemporary, who took over after Naga Sadow was forced to flee from the Republic onslaught.Gorthuar 12:39, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't understand why everyone wants Naga Sadow to live for. He's dead. D-E-D. Dead :). -- Michaeldsuarez  [[Image:Infinite_Empire.svg|10px]] ( Activate Holocron ) 14:38, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Not exactly. The more recent sources both downplay his fate as well as any direct connection he may have had with Nadd's tutoring. It's even unclear whether Nadd ever killed him or not, according to the JvS:TEGTTF and I think the NEC also doesn't say that Nadd actually killed him. Since the game has been in development for many years, it's possible these retcons were put in place to decrease the continuity problems if Sadow was to return as this Emperor figure. VT-16 15:45, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Why do you think that Emperor must be somebody known? There were lot of Sith lords in the Council in the end of the old empire. Is not it more likely that one from them survived and fled the known space where he silently prepared a revange?--ScorpiO 15:49, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * True, but if the IGN article was correct, it was Sadow himself. I'm just hoping this wasn't a mistake on their part. VT-16 15:53, 7 December 2008 (UTC)