Talk:Alderaan/Legends

Thrantas
I have reverted to include Thrantas in the list of major species. They are a sentient species and were only beginning to be exported off world close to the destruction of Alderaan. --SparqMan 19:38, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Their article says they are creatures, not sentient beings like Humans or Kaminoans... what is your source? Do they speak or anything? – Aidje talk 19:52, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm fairly certain that The Wildlife of Star Wars outlines their communication methods. I would put them on par with dolphins. Regardless, the box should include major species, not only major sentient species. --SparqMan 19:58, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Dolphins? This isn't HHGTTG... You may be right about what should be included. I don't know. – Aidje talk 20:01, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Dolphins are generally considered sapient within the scientific community, as proven by their completion of the Mirror test--Eion 17:04, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Geography
Hm, we seem to have made a very similar mistake in Alderaan's geography as Saxton discusses here []. Alderaan in A New Hope is nowhere near as vegetative as our picture or description would suggest. What is the source of the image? --Fade 23:25, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) Here's a closer view to inspect, care of SWTC. -- Riffsyphon1024 08:42, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * The Alderaan shown in ROTS is fairly green. ANH shows Alderaan from a greater distance. The cloud cover looks thicker there than in the images in ROTS. --SparqMan 00:05, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Is there an orbital shot in ROTS? I only remember the surface shots. --Fade 00:11, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, found one on the Net, but there still seems to be more large sealike bodies than just "ice rimmed polar seas" as mentioned in the article --Fade 00:14, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Compare the two. I'm sure they dont look too different. -- Riffsyphon1024 03:23, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, it's just that there is more sea than described in the article (even on the ROTS one) --Fade 08:28, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Maybe Global Warming? You know the death ray finished the job :D -- Riffsyphon1024 08:30, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I see a lot more water than just "ice-rimmed polar seas". Even WITH global warming. QuentinGeorge 08:33, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh, good, so I'm not insane. --Fade 08:40, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Even the ROTS picture shows a fair bit of water. There's too much cloud-cover on the ANH one to see any land, properly, however. QuentinGeorge 08:45, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * As I refered to images of the surface in Episode III, I noted mostly mountains with snow. -- Riffsyphon1024 08:50, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, images of the surface aren't entirely reliable, since they (comparatively) have to show The Alps of an entire planet, rather than every variation in terrain. That is, if we're not talking orbital shots. --Fade 08:52, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * These two shots may be from different hemispheres, just an fyi.--Eion 17:06, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'm going to forget what the EU says and go with the films here. There's definately more sea than what's described in the article, and even more than that if the ANH shot does happen to be a different hemisphere --Fade 11:45, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Come on guys, you can't tell enough from those pictures to tell one way or another. All I can see is green, blue, and white. You're not going to be able to see a giant mountain range in that far away of a picture, and you aren't seriously going to think that Alderaan is extremely mountainous just because of what was seen in one tiny scene in the movie are you? Bob rulz 12:04, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * And as said before, it could be a different view of the planet. Earth doesn't have two symmetrical hemispheres, so why are people assuming one image of Alderaan must be indicative of the entire planet? - Kwenn 18:04, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Alderaan was attacked and heavily-damaged during the Clone Wars. that could explain the differences -SWF The Clone Wars comment doesn't work because the pics we have are from ROTS; after it was attacked. the others are from ANH. --Logan Felipe 02:50, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * That's true. The Essential Guide to Planet and Moons cites the devastation of the Clone Wars as why the planet adopted such extreme pacifisim. However, it also shows Alderaan having more landmasses than in ANH. :/Cyril 22:38, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Who said the views were of the same side of the planet? It could have a huge ocean on one side (Like our own Pacific ocean) and have most of its landmass on the other.

History
Why have entire paragraphs in the History section been deleted?

Huge contradiction
So...Alderaan has big oceans -- then -- Alderaan has no major oceans. The EU is absolutely out of control or the authors are not getting something. I suspect the former. And of course, Lucas' vision is completely different as always.--Anon
 * Yep! It seems as if this article has not been updated since we finally saw the planet in Ep. III. It is a completely different world than described in the not-so-famous "Illustrated Guide" which described Alderaan as a planet without mountains and large oceans. If we assume, that the city seen in the end of Ep. III IS the capital of Alderaan the EU-informations are outdated and should be replaced. The capital does lie in a high mountain range and NOT on an island.--Anon
 * Right, but you said it yourself ... "IF we assume". Granted, Lucas likely intended this to be the capital, but I know of no concrete fact that proves that's what it is. It may be Bail's vacation home or something. Thus the EU could still fit.--Valin Kenobi 03:55, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Alderaan was attacked
there are several sources that say that Alderaan was directly attacked by the CIS during the Clone Wars, the novelization was a source. Obsession mentions that the CIS at least harassed shipping to the planet. -SWF

Diameter
Only 5.500 km??? How can be so small? It is impossible, its inhabitants wouldn't be able to support other planet's higher gravitational forces, and we have seen them (Leia and Bail Organa for example) in many other different worlds.