User talk:Cade Calrayn

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Mandalorians
Why exactly was my edit from July 28th "Unnecessary trivial real-world comparisons"? Jondon Cenobi (talk) 15:18, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

CAN objection
Please check Comprehensive article nominations/Unidentified Jedi Knight (Zayne Carrick) when you get a chance. You have an unstruck objection from February that is currently the only obstacle to archiving the nom as successful. Thanks. &mdash;MJ&mdash; Holocomm 21:50, April 27, 2015 (UTC)

sorry for the misunderstanding
Sorry I wasnt clear, the part I didnt understand was a section of the book about Sabines love of music. what I added to the article had nothing to do with that, what I added was a section about Sabines language skills from the book, which I understood perfectly fine. A previous editor had tried to include information on Sabines love of music, and her language abilities, but he forgot to put the reference down so it was removed. I found the book in my collection where this information was from and I found the sections containing this information... I included the language information (which I understood), but I could not adequately summarize her enthusiasm for music... sorry I did not explain myself well. ralok (talk) 02:10, April 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm objecting to the serious grammar errors that are in that edit and all of the other edits you have made on similar articles. Please, if you're not going to use proper grammar and spelling, then don't add info to our articles. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  02:11, April 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well... what grammatical errors are there? I would love to fix them. The information I added is 100% correct though as I am retrieving it directly from the book itself which is in my hands. I think it is a bit hasty to completely remove valid and accurate information from a page simply because the Grammar and spelling is incorrect (indeed the natural resposne to this should be to fix it, not to deny the accuracy and validity of the information) ralok (talk) 02:14, April 30, 2015 (UTC)

I also have a question
So ok, the EU is now not cannon, but what of the articles that fall under both Canon and Legends categories? Does the Legends information count as canon for them?--Fekyu 04:44, May 3, 2015 (UTC)

Hey can I at least have some help i'm reasonably new to Wookieepedia so...instead of saying "nonsense!" perhaps throw in a few ideas and tips. --Will.K (talk) 10:26, May 3, 2015 (UTC)


 * I know I am not Cade, but I'll try to your question, because I once had the same doubt. The only Canon sources that are applied to both Legends and Canon pages are Episodes I-VI and The Clone Wars series (not including the Bad Batch arc and the Crystal Crisis on Utapau arc). So the external information from this media are treated differently, for example if it is an information book like The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia it is considered Legends information, the Star Wars Insider content prior to Blade Squadron is also considered Legends, the old Star Wars Databank was Legends, while the new one (current online) is canon, the Star Wars Encyclopedia Online fits both Canon and Legends and there are a lot of other scources, but those you need to investigate for yourself. I hope I could help you, for any other questions that I'm able to answer contact me. Pedronog (talk) 18:10, May 3, 2015 (UTC)Pedronog

But the bad batch arc and the crystal crisis on utuapau arc are marked as canon are they not? --Will.K (talk) 06:33, May 4, 2015 (UTC)

Pedronog (talk) 17:24, May 5, 2015 (UTC)Pedronog
 * Yes, that's why I didn't include them in the scources that are both Legends and Canon...

Resurrecting my sig
Hey Cade!

I dropped by today in order to leave a brief message to Cavalier One, and found that my signature was dumping multiple copies of my user page. As I pulled the strings of page histories to unravel the mystery, it appeared that your bot had, as a matter of routine, redirected several of my component signature templates to my user page, which resulted in the confusing signature I saw. I subsequently discovered Wook has some inactivity policies in place of which I was unaware. I hope you don't mind that I've restored these files, as I've kinda gotten used to having them in place at the various wikis that mean the most to me.

Also, I initially protected most of these templates after seeing that your bot wasn't in fact an admin. The hope was that I could prevent a recurrence of the incident, but I think I've now reverted that protection on all of them. Having a word with you seemed, on reflection, something that would be done in a more civilised age.

At any rate, I hope I haven't done anything terribly offensive to Wook policies, and if, in revision notes, I referred to what happened to my templates as "vandalism", it was only out of a sense of confusion, not accusation.

Do you mind if I keep my signature, even though my activity here might be irregular? If the signature doesn't meet the inactivity policies, is there another solution I can use? Thanks! 19:02: Mon 04 May 2015
 * Your pages were caught by an automated script based on activity timing; it wasn't aware that you were staff. No problem at all. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  19:18, May 4, 2015 (UTC)

Quick thought.
My apologies. I believe that the game will be Star Wars focused and that's why I thought that it'd be good to be made into an article. I like to help with the Star Wars game articles and I thought that it qualified. Roger Murtaugh (talk) 18:21, May 5, 2015 (UTC)

Images of Jora Astane
Hey. Why did you mark this as empty? There are images categorized with that category. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 07:11, May 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * Cause he didn't create it properly, as I've told him before, and he wasn't in IRC and it was late and I was tired. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  15:52, May 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, OK. I'll recreate the right way. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 16:30, May 8, 2015 (UTC)

Hey, sorry about not fully sourcing those images. I'll make sure to clean up the pages and properly source them later tonight. --98.212.76.152 17:43, May 8, 2015 (UTC)

Question
Hey, sorry if I uploaded those images wrong. The source of them is from a facebook page. I tried to re-upload one of them with all the proper info such as description, source, etc. and I was told I couldn't re upload a deleted image. Is there a reason for this? And should I do anything differently on the Jimmy McInerney page. I plan on adding a lot more info later tonight.--AH Blueface (talk) 18:02, May 8, 2015 (UTC)

OOPS! I need help
Hey Cade Calrayn, I'm new here and trying to get my bearings. I just kind of made a boo boo here, and feel really stupid. Instead of moving an article I simply created a new one and copied the information over, then redirected. That means there is no history and all that. Now that I realized what I did wrong, I can't move the page anymore because the page title already exists, and I can't delete it. The original page is Mission to steal the Triple-Zero protocol personality matrix, and I wanted to move it to Mission to steal the Triple-Zero personality matrix, so that it matches the Triple-Zero personality matrix in name. Sorry, it's hard to explain. Can you help me? -Effect 03:31, May 11, 2015 (UTC)

<<EDIT! Nevermind, Master Jonathan helped me out with it. -Effect 04:43, May 11, 2015 (UTC)

Disney Infinity
So I've noticed you deleted Disney Infinity 3.0. Why? I started a discussion about it in the Senate Hall and so far, Brandon Rhea and ProfessorTofty agreed that your deletion was arbitrary. Can you explain why Disney Infinity doesn't deserve an article in the forum in question? "Regardless of whether it includes Star Wars material, there's no need for an article." Why not? Star Wars is a big part of 3.0 with playsets. Are we really going to ignore it? SeanWheeler (talk) 00:20, May 14, 2015 (UTC)

Jumptrooper/Skytrooper
Hello. I just noticed you've redirected Sky Troopers to Imperial jumptrooper. Was there any discussion of this? I don't see anything on the talk page.

It just seems like a weird choice. May I ask why you did it? I understand that they are very similar, but if you are going to merge them, at least clean up the article a bit. Because of the merging, the article links to itself once or twice, and implies that jumptroopers and skytroopers are similar, but very separate. It would also look a lot better if there were some more pictures of sky troopers within. Thanks! DarthKnah (talk) 02:29, May 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't recall the exact situation, but the Imperial Handbook was the reasoning for the merge. The sentence in question in the jumptrooper article has been removed. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  02:37, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

File name issue
Hey Cade! Unfortunately, I forgot to give that file a proper name. :-$ Could you please fix that? Thanks in advance, my friend. --LelalMekha (talk) 15:46, May 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure, whatya want the name to be? Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  15:47, May 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * I guess that "gnarltree grove" should do the trick. :-) --LelalMekha (talk) 15:51, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

Recent reverts
Have you watched the episode Sphere of Influence? This is a reminder that all of Star Wars: The Clone Wars (TV series) is canon, and those articles come specifically from that episode. Stop reverting the edits, please, they are not Legends articles. Squishy Vic talk 18:44, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

Canon tabs as default
Your input was requested at Forum:SH:Filling_in_Missing_Canon_Pages nearly a month ago. Any response would be appreciated. &mdash;MJ&mdash; Training Room 16:59, May 18, 2015 (UTC)

Deleted Page
Why did you delete Unidentified B1 Battle droid (Utapau) I mean the droid has a line.

Hazmat.100 (talk) 18:12, May 20, 2015 (UTC)

Please, help!
Hello. When you creating the template Imglist, have you connected any additional extensions? HellK9t (talk) 08:04, May 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I'm not quite sure what you mean. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  12:45, May 22, 2015 (UTC)

New page infoboxes
Hey Cade, I noticed you've made a few droid articles the last few days. I'm not sure if you copy/pasted the infoboxes from somewhere, but all of them were missing an "=" for the class parameter, so they were added to the pages missing parameters and unrecognized parameters categories. Just a heads up for future :) Manoof (talk) 01:47, May 24, 2015 (UTC)

Question About Categories
Hello. My name is ElsaRules, hailing from the Warehouse 13 Artifact Database wiki. I have a question about categories that the admins there can't answer, and one of them suggested to come here since many of your category pages have what I am going to ask about.

Many of the category pages here have subcategories that link to it. I was wondering if you (or any of the other admins here) knew how to add that. I have some category pages in the Warehouse which I want to add subcategory links to, but I can't.

I am currently in the Warehouse and will be for awhile longer if you want to get back to me on my wall there. Whenever you have the time. Please and thank you!

ElsaRules!!! (talk) 01:18, May 25, 2015 (UTC)ElsaRules!!!

Okay...
Why are you treating me like I am the bad guy? I am not the one breaking the wikis rules about how to use talk pages, I am nottheone trying force people to insert fan fiction onto pages, I am not the one using constant minor-edits to bump talk page conversations on the wikis activity feed. I wasnt even arguing with the guy this time, I was trying my hardest to explain to him why what he was saying was not appropriate for the site... so why am I the bad guy in this situation? I have tried my hardest to ignore the guy since my ban expired... I actually didnt want to talk to him, it was he who decided to start responding to pre-block conversations as you can see here he was the one who started it again after the block... See believe it or not, I consider it common curtsey to respond to someone when they are talking to me... He talked to me... not the other way around... and I am sorry he did that, but don't treat me like I am the bad guy here... I have never vandalized this wiki, forced information down anyones throat, I have reverted vandalism every chance I had... and I have always tried to include accurate information, and I have had many productive conversations on talk pages... So please stop treating me like I am something someone would scrape off the bottom of their boot. ralok (talk) 14:52, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * Then be the bigger man and stop engaging him. I don't care what "common curtsey" [sic] says, you get into unnecessarily antagonistic arguments with that user where you treat him like an idiot, and it's the same thing you got blocked for. Just drop it. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  15:09, May 26, 2015 (UTC)

Re:Images
I've been replacing that image with File:MP-Holocron.png since that version is better quality. I figured once it's been fully replaced we could remove File:Greatholocron.jpg to save space. It is just a lower quality duplicate of an image already on here. Cevan (talk) 20:22, May 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * Alright then, sorry Cade. I've gone ahead and reverted my edits that changed signatures. Cevan (talk) 20:29, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Wanted page
They'll go from red to blue&hellip; eventually. :P  CC7567  (talk) 16:17, May 31, 2015 (UTC)

Feedback
Hey, I know you're extremely busy, but if you could do a quick favor for me: If you could briefly look over Coruscant Security Force before I nominate it. Nothing in depth, but just to make sure I didn't mess up something very obvious or to give an initial impression of anything that needs to be added/removed, I'd greatly appreciate it! I'm sure it will get torn to shreds later. ;) Coruscantfan (Talk) 10:56, June 1, 2015 (UTC)

ME-D and ME-D1
Hello, I just wanted to say a thing about ME-D/ME-D1: in-story/in-universe there are three Meedees and only one Meedee-one, as Leeha Narezz says, and as the Codex states. While they may be listed as the same NPC, this is most likely an oversight by Bioware. So I think it should be moved back to ME-D and ME-D1 would be a particular one/ --Zero-ELEC (talk) 21:52, June 2, 2015 (UTC) EDIT: The point I meant to make, was that we really shouldn't place NPC listing over in-universe info, maybe? (Zero-ELEC (talk) 21:56, June 2, 2015 (UTC))

Revanites' Ascendance
In regards to the Revanites' Ascendance, there are multiple characters that are only mentioned in the not-short story (I-29, R-3, R-27) and at least one title (Master of the Order of Revan). What should I put as their first mention/appearance, if Revanite's Ascendance is not a work? (Which it is; I can accept that it's not a short story, but it most definitely is a work.) --Zero-ELEC (talk) 19:06, June 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, those exist at names like Asset I-12 (I think only I-29 hasn't been made yet), and the non-narrative blog posts are listed under Sources, like the Ascendance post is on Darkspanner's article (with the TORweb template). Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  19:08, June 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, fair enough, then. Thanks for the help! --Zero-ELEC (talk) 19:20, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

EduCorps Meeting 25
EduCorps Meeting 25 has been scheduled for Saturday, June 13th at 7 PM ET. Please leave notes if you cannot attend.-- Exiled Jedi   (Greetings)  04:31, June 6, 2015 (UTC)

Article Improvements
You seem like a level-headed individual, so I'd thought I should run it by you before posting more suggestions towards article improvements on the Matukai talk page. To get started, I think it's necessary to reveal this potentially controversial finding before posting to the talk page again:

(Now in order for me to post the quotes that I've based this analysis on, I have to first explain some of the more simple things on the Matukai that may have been overlooked before getting straight to the point. When or if you choose to make time to reply, I'll continue - as what I'm about to say and prove is something that carries more importance than some might think.) --Yashuvoo Sommin (talk) 22:51, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

Essential Atlas Online Companion
Hello, I received some news from Jason Fry. The next update of the Online Companion will be released next week. He wants to write some words about the wookieepedians who helped him to find the missing systems and I thought about you for your work with TOR's systems. Just tell me if you want to be included in the acknowledgments anf if you want to use your Wookieepedia nickname or your real name. Bye Hk 47 (talk) 09:43, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok I tell him.Hk 47 (talk) 19:41, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

template edit
Hi, Cade! Thank you for reviewing my Template:Majorspoiler edits a couple weeks ago. I'm a little puzzled at your rolling back what I'd thought to be the least controversial part of that edit: using italics for emphasis rather than all-caps. The Wookieepedia MOS is silent on this issue, and it is a widespread publishing standard &mdash; especially in the U.S. &mdash; that italics is preferred for this. Is there a reason this needs to be all-caps in this template? Thanks. Asithol (talk) 16:22, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Rill
I had thought canon pages reigned supreme over legends pages? As such, shouldn't the current Rill page (about the animal) be moved to another page so the canon character Rill could then have that page? Cevan (talk) 15:57, June 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * "reigned supreme" - really? Articles about species trump a random character who has just been introduced in a new comic. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  15:58, June 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * I saw someone else – an admin I believe – doing the same thing I just did with different pages a week or two ago; I will try and see if I can find their edits, but why shouldn't canon pages have supremacy over legends pages with the same name? Canon pages will become the default at some point. Cevan (talk) 16:01, June 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Exactly what I just said. A one-off character, regardless of NuCanon or Legends, doesn't trump a species, as clearly stated in our naming policy. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  16:04, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Dude... You've edited more times than there are pages on this Wiki...

BG2 for Mission
Hey Cade. Is the "BG2" field supposed to be depreciated for Mission as well? Because it's also used there. Thanks.  CC7567  (talk) 19:17, June 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'll remove it. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  19:17, June 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks man.  CC7567  (talk) 19:18, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

Blogs

 * Why do I not have permission to create a blog on my user page?--Gunman6 (talk) 20:31, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Because we don't allow them. Blogs are for social sites for people to post their opinions and rants; we're an encyclopedia. Only a small set of users allowed to create blogs for specific, approved and admin-related reasons. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  20:37, June 20, 2015 (UTC)


 * BTW, I never used IMDb as a valid source on Andy Bradford, was just fixing the link. I also have five valid sources for Malcolm Weaver so you can remove that inaccurate "Unverified" sticker. You're looking at the URL and not the actual source which shows autographs and storyboards that prove that Malcolm worked on the film.--Gunman6 (talk) 20:46, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

Template
Hello, could you please tell me, why you have undone my edit from "Arquitens-class light cruiser/Canon"? I only added the missing Rebels-Template

Greetings Ben 95.91.232.253 20:06, June 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Because that template is only for use with actual episodes. The full name of the movie is Star Wars Rebels: The Siege of Lothal, and the template tries to link to the redirect "The Siege of Lothal." Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  20:10, June 22, 2015 (UTC)

Ok, i've understood the Problem, but not my link is the Problem, it's an general Problem with the Rebels-template and preset "Star Wars" in names 95.91.232.253 20:15, June 22, 2015 (UTC)

Inq Meeting 72
Inquisitorius Meeting 72 has been scheduled for Saturday 18th July at the usual time, one an obscure body in the S-K system. Attendance under Ming's laws is required, or appropriate tribute should be offered. - Sir Cavalier of One ( Squadron channel ) 23:15, June 22, 2015 (UTC)

RE: TOR Appearances
Thanks, Cade! Glad to help out.--Nostalgia of Iran (talk) 15:57, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

One Sith
"Trip was correct. Revert it again, and you'll likely be blocked.)"

That's... very much *not* what the consensus track discussion said. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:CT_Archive/Return_of_the_Lists

" I do want to caution anyone reading this, now or in the future, that this consensus is not a blanket prohibition against all lists, nor is it justification for blindly removing lists from articles for no other reason than not wanting a list. Toprawa and Ralltiir said it best in these two quotes: "There are certain instances where lists may still convey information in an article more practically than any other presentation form, although prose is preferred whenever possible." and "Lists basically serve the purpose of temporary repositories of information until that list can be beautified into prose that is worthy of article status. There is nothing gained by just removing them outright." All users would do well to heed these words." -Toprawa and Ralltiir

This is not a ban on lists. This is information nigh-inaccessible via other means currently, and without you or Trip putting a prose section in it's place, and the voting overwhelming agreed it was as Trop said. ZeroSD (talk) 00:11, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

KOTOR II
Can you guys stop removing my comment? As controversial as it is - it's true. The source canon (which the game the character was first created in) indicated the exile to be male. Trip removed my comment because he felt that it had nothing to do with article improvement. The whole point behind that was to point out that Meetra Surik is non-canon, which is why a section within that article should be created for the corresponding identity chosen by Lucasfilm - and separated from the continuity that was never finished.--Yashuvoo Sommin (talk) 06:40, June 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * And if you bothered to read and research the topic, you'd know that the "source canon" that you refer to was a generic, non-canon teaser for the game that has no relevance on the actual canon version of the character. There's absolutely no reason to a) respond to a decade-old topic or b) restart topics that were and may still be controversial and pointless, so take heed of the warnings plastered across both that talk page and Surik's talk page, and leave the issue alone or you'll end up blocked. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  12:38, June 30, 2015 (UTC)

No - it was the opening sequence narrating the aftermath of the first title for the sequel while introducing a new main character - summarizing the current state of the storyline. It plays periodically. A teaser is usually an advanced CGI animated display made to garner publicity for the upcoming release of a title as a way to ensure that better sales are made. The opening for KOTOR II consisted of in-game mechanics and combat actions that switched in-between cutscenes - in addition to character skins that were used previously in the first game. That doesn't classify as a teaser. I won't push the issue on the talk page any further, but please - don't say what I didn't research (especially considering how many times I have to remind the site of numerous conceptual errors in the summarization of its articles).

The first step in solving a problem is recognizing that there is one. From what it looks like here - the administration doesn't look to the source of the problem when disputes arise between wookieepedians and mediate them accordingly so that the matters are resolved. But rather, you base your assessments on a canon system that isn't consistent with the information put forth in Star Wars as a whole, then end conflicts focused on the friction based off of something insufficient. A creator's canon isn't the deciding factor that determines a character or tradition being inherently superior, it is the created parameters for the said individuals and the extent of their talents or abilities. Measuring these things comparably is how to reach the outcome of an answer, not simply accepting a perspective just because it comes from a distributor that originally set the premise of a glimpse to a greater universe.

With all that being said - please consider your words and their context more carefully. I thought this dismissive attitude of yours subsided somewhat, but you aren't the slightest bit considerate with how you approach something contrary to what you believe was already established. You just simply stamp it out as wrong and threaten with blocks if the matter goes on. That's not within the confines of what's considered civility.--Yashuvoo Sommin (talk) 17:48, June 30, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Essential Atlas Online Companion
Hello, I received a mail from Jason Fry today. He apologizes for forgetting you in the website entry. I think that's why he did it on twitter. The version on the site is the right one. Unfortunately, he missed the mail I send him with TOR systems. I'm pretty disappointed. I hope he could include them some day. Hk 47 (talk) 15:07, June 30, 2015 (UTC) Hk 47 (talk) 15:07, June 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * That's disappointing. Thanks. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  21:04, June 30, 2015 (UTC)

Fall of the Old Republic
Hey Cade, is this better? I removed the offending speculation. --Alientraveller (talk) 13:11, July 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * No, because we still don't know if the "fall" referred to a war or just the collapse of a government. There's nothing there to make an article from; for all we know it's just an expression of speech to refer to a time period. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  13:13, July 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, I guess all the info about the Mandalorians sacking the Temple could go into the Mandalorian Wars page. --Alientraveller (talk) 13:27, July 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * And there's no need for that either. There's nothing specific enough to make an article; just because it happened in Legends doesn't mean it's in NuCanon. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  13:31, July 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * Someone must've added it to List of battles for a reason though, maybe the term comes up in Ultimate Star Wars? It's not someone I want to buy given we're only months away from Rebels season 2 and The Force Awakens (woot!) but it's too recent to be at my library. --Alientraveller (talk) 13:44, July 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * It's true that someone likely had a reason for adding it to the list of battles, but there's something important you should consider before you make a page based off a redlink: the person's reasons could've been wrong. You need to be able to independently come to the conclusion that a page is notable enough to be created, rather than assuming that because someone else thought it was, then it must be notable. In the case of List of battles, there were a number of items in there that shouldn't be created due to us lacking information about them and, as a result, the topics not meeting notability standards, so I've removed them from the list. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 14:23, July 1, 2015 (UTC)

IMDB is not a valid source
Hi, if IMBD is not a valid source, wouldn't the majority of articles in the category of Star Wars production staff have to be deleted then? ' ℬiggestℒeo ' (ℳeeting ℛoom) 15:53, July 9, 2015 (UTC)

Slang/nicknames
Hi Cade. In regards to your recent edits of the "Vac-head" and "Ground-hog" pages, I had thought pages that were slang/nicknames were allowed, such as "buckethead." Cevan (talk) 16:37, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * That one should really also be redirect to stormtrooper; there's a slight difference for the Legends version in that it refers to multiple groups, but it should also probably be redirected. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  18:52, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

Block and Drazin
Hey bastard I am tired of you. I have no lessons to learn from blocks and more ridiculous when I have reason and arguments to prove it. Corporal Drazin dies a quick shot by Han Solo. You and your puppet "Trip" is not one to be making life impossible, preventing edit and contribute. I give within 3 days to reverse its latest actions or pay the consequences: www.youtube.com/watch?v=77SRTMgJZrA, in other words I will watch for you and dismember you with a chainsaw and your family will be dismembered. --190.147.85.32 18:25, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * I... okay then. You just earned yourself a permanent block, and good luck with that chainsaw thing. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn
 * Dude, Cade's been stalked by a way better class of psychopath than you before. Don't even try to compete. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 20:30, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

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Floating health spa
Do not remove the category of images for no reason, please. Sightsaber (talk) 14:29, July 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * Firstly, you created it with one image, which is a perfectly valid reason to delete the category, and secondly, there's absolutely no reason to capitalize floating in that category name. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  14:33, July 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * Firstly, the second image was placed there almost simultaneously with your removal, and there is no reason for such haste. And secondly, there is a reason to capitalize: one can consider it as the own name of the aircraft, not the generic name of this type of device. And third, if you don't like something, it's better to ask a question on the talk page of the article or user. Sightsaber (talk) 14:47, July 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * No, there's no reason to capitalize. "Floating" is not a proper noun that needs capitalization; that's like naming a category "Images of Lead pencils." Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  14:50, July 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * If you find the Imperial siege balloon of a different type, it would be so, but since it's not, then I'm right. Now you removed the edits in the article Imperial siege balloon: start the Star Wars: Rogue Squadron game and answer, are there any laser cannon on balloons? If they are marked as Imperial targets? The answer is "no" for both questions. So stop vandalism and return everything as it was. Sightsaber (talk) 15:01, July 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * Please calm down. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you on the siege balloons; a fellow user confirms your claim as to their status in the first game. We're going to look further into the article's validity, and it'll probably be TC'd or just outright deleted. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  15:05, July 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * So, the issue with Imperial siege balloons was resolved. How do matters stand with article Floating health spa: whether the returned indication about his appearance in the Star Wars: Rogue Squadron game and the corresponding guides, the Imagecat template and the corresponding image category (capitalize floating as you wish)? Sightsaber (talk) 08:31, July 14, 2015 (UTC)

Article?
Hi, I'm trying to put links to articles about the class stories on SWTOR. Couldn't add them to the SWTOR article and the article I started is now gone. Saw your name there, figured you could help. Nabnasset (talk) 01:47, July 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * The class articles are already linked at the top of the Appearances section. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  02:00, July 16, 2015 (UTC)

Rig Nema's lightsaber
Cade, I'd like to know why Rig Nema's lightsaber/Canon was deleted. Just because it may not be notable doesn't mean it doesn't deserve an article. It's been officially named in canon; this isn't just some conjectural title – if it was I would agree with its deletion. Cevan (talk) 18:49, July 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Are you really trying to Wikilawyer this? Just because it's mentioned as "Rig Nema's lightsaber" doesn't mean it's worthy of an article; that should've been clear by the fact that a Legends article didn't already exist. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  18:51, July 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * So does that mean the Mission to Moraband isn't worthy of an article? That doesn't have a Legends article. Cevan (talk) 18:54, July 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * That's an actual event, not a random lightsaber. There's really no equating the two, and such a generic lightsaber that's barely visible isn't worth this kind of Wikilawyering. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  18:57, July 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Why does the article Neebo's lightsaber exist? It appears even less than Rig Nema's lightsaber, and doesn't even have an officially confirmed name. Cevan (talk) 19:01, July 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Cade, could you please respond? You've been making a lot of edits recently but seem to have neglected this. Cevan (talk) 15:42, July 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * There's really nothing to discuss; as the talk page indicates, that article has undergone a trash compactor process that did not result in its deletion. I'd strongly suggest that you stop trying to Wikilawyer this and, as several other users have said, move on to articles that are actually important or useful. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  15:47, July 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * I have been working on other articles in this time; I haven't just been stuck up on this issue and refused to do anything else. Have a look here and you can see for yourself. Cevan (talk) 15:49, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Re: User pages
My apologies, Cade; I just get locked in when updating links and don't really bother to see if it's a user page or a normal page that I'm editing. Won't happen again though, I promise you that.

I was actually completely unaware there was a bot who would update links, though. Do you happen to know how long it takes for the changes to be done? Cevan (talk) 18:50, July 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * It's not automatic; requests that are posted on that page are seen by users who have bots and they run the scripts. It'd take RoboCade a minute or so. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  18:53, July 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * All right then, I'm going to finish updating all the Legends pages with the correct link and then I'll try and put a request in for the year link to be updated. Cevan (talk) 18:56, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Quick question
I see that on some of your new SWTOR articles you were able to remove the content box. Could you tell me how to do that? - AV-6R7 (talk) 16:37, July 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ignore this. I figured it out. Sorry about the cat thing, I realized I forgot to categorize it right after I published it. - AV-6R7 (talk) 19:55, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

Question: SWtOR Short stories template
Would it be alright if I made a template that listed the digital (and otherwise) short stories how they used to be listed in Template:Tor? This would replace (or supplement, if need be) the Tor template in the articles for the Short stories themselves. (Note for example the Smuggler's Vanguard page, where it still has the Tor template. Here it would replace it, since the current template does not actually include the story.) The Tor template could then be made to link to this template, instead of the category page, which doesn't list the stories in release order. So, yeah, that's my sort of ramble-y question. -- Zero-ELEC (talk) 08:01, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * I really don't see the need for such a template. Unlike a comic series or metaseries, the short stories aren't part of some overarching series and thus there's no real reason to have a navigation template. The category suffices as it stands. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  19:21, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd personally prefer it since it'd allow easy navigation through all of the short stories and I get a bit weirded out when there's an navbox at the bottom that doesn't include the page it's on (Even did a mock-up over at the Jundland Wastes, don't know if it's still there), but I understand that space may be at a premium and it may be considered unnecessary. -- Zero-ELEC (talk) 19:30, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

Hello! Sorry to bother you again, but with the (not so) recent release of the Brothers short story, I'd like to propose this again and (hopefully) get a conversation going about this; once again I've made a template with this navigation in mind. I'd use this nav template if it were implemented, and I think others would as well. While they're not part of an overarching series, they are featured in a way that if someone were to want to read all short stories in order of release, they would not be remiss, and we should facilitate it. Here's a permanent link to the new mock up in the Jundland Wastes if you want to see the proposed template. -- Zero-ELEC (talk) 01:48, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

Adriana in "Inside the Worlds of Episode I"?
Hi Cade! I noticed that you added Inside the Worlds of Star Wars: Episode I as a source for Adriana and wondered if you could tell me where in the book was the planet mentioned, as I can't seem to find it. Thanks!  Imperators II (Talk) 22:28, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

Togruta
Thanks for telling me. --Kyle03 (talk) 13:03, July 30, 2015 (UTC)

MiniComplete
Hi, I came across User:Cade Calrayn/MiniComplete.js while randomly browsing here and wondered what changes you'd made to it for you not to import it directly from Dev Wiki? Some parts of it have since been changed, but if there's something extra in there you'd like to see I'd be happy to add it into the original. cqm talk 08:06, July 31, 2015 (UTC)
 * It would be nice if you'd attributed the original too. cqm talk

Signature not being changed
Uh, Mr. Cade, I was trying to change my signature, and it kept coming as 'Invalid raw signature. Check HTML tags.' I'm sure I inputted my correctly. If you could see the HTML comment in the editor because I don't want it clashing with the HTML of the page, if you know what I mean. Thanks man. --CT-5555 20:29, July 31, 2015 (UTC)

The HTML I used for my signature is this:

CT-5555 http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/mec/images/6/63/Doodle-580-clone-trooper.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/20
 * Such a signature is in violation of our signature policy, namely the lack of your actual username. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  20:52, July 31, 2015 (UTC)

Bot redirect request
Hey Cade. Could you have your robobuddy change the redirects for "minute" to standard minute (for all Legends articles)? The canon page belongs at "minute," so I want to make sure all the links get switched over before I make it. Thanks.  CC7567  (talk) 05:30, August 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * aaaaaand done. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  14:06, August 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks!  CC7567  (talk) 05:06, August 3, 2015 (UTC)

Portable Infobox styles
Hi,

I'm sorry for my css styles removal! Didn't wanted to make any harm.

We have a nice script determining if on given wiki there are portable infoboxes and it just returned an empty results for your wiki! That's the reason.

Just by curiosity, can you give me an example of portable infoboxes on your wiki? :) That would mean script we made doesn't work correctly which would be kind of bad for us :P I'll appreciate your help, as you know your wiki the best.

Once again, really sorry for my mistake and I'm really curious how could that happen! And I hope you can help me :)

Thanks, Diana


 * Template:Era/Draft is a mockup of a portable infobox version of Era for discussion purposes relating to this forum. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  18:23, August 6, 2015 (UTC)


 * Ok, got it, thank you! :) We are going to release a simplified version of portable-infoboxes CSS classes very soon, so I'll just update your styles with a new selectors :) Edit: are changes made by me on Monobook.scss OK now? :) --Dianafa (talk) 10:36, August 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure, go ahead. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  14:14, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

I asked a simple question, and you delete it...
You sir, are an asshole. I asked a simple question, and you delete it instead of answer it. Go do something productive with your life and kill yourself.

Greetings, I've made an attempt to edit the timeline by adding several titles, both legacy and canon that were missing, however the changes were reverted i think. The titles added were: Tarkin Dark disciple Heir to the jedi Aftermath The force awakens

50.180.237.27 12:04, August 7, 2015 (UTC)Darth Nebulous

Inq Meeting 73
Inq Meeting 73 has been scheduled for August 22 at 8 PM ET (12 AM UTC). Please leave notes if you cannot attend.-- Exiled Jedi  ( talk ) 01:27, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

Ithorian (language)
The source that provided the articles name is pointed out in the sources section. - AV-6R7 (talk) 04:47, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

JavaScript issues
Are there still issues across Wikia regarding JavaScript? I still don't see auto-refresh on my watchlist page.--Nostalgia of Iran (talk) 16:28, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

Star Wars: Commander template
Hey Cade, I was going through some new articles today, and I realized we finally need a template for Star Wars: Commander, due to separate campaigns. So this entails a new template or adding a Canon function to / Think you can take care of it? Thanks. Corellian Premier The Force will be with you always 20:21, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

Future Issues
I want to let you know that, Im leaving this message with the hope that we can prevent future issues and try to make it so disputes like the one we had in May, do not happen again.--Marcuspearl (talk) 05:50, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

Vandalism
There is an anon vandalizing the Luke Skywalker page. Can you assist please? Thank you. Unnatural Log (talk) 01:18, August 18, 2015 (UTC)

R4-T8
Why did you delete my page? The two droids have different paint schemes. It's very subtle but they are still two different droids. Also that is the official starwars.com tumblr account. When I saw that they were different I just had to sign up to create his page! Astromecha (talk) 01:24, August 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * anyway I just hit undo. see the difference on tumblr image...there's no black lines on R4-A22 and the orange panels on his front are in different locations. Astromecha (talk) 01:28, August 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh thanks for fixing those htmls links!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I couldn't work out how to fix them. Also, is there a tumblr citation template? I can't find one anywhere...and would you be able to upload the image from tumblr? It won't let me upload any images???? :S Astromecha (talk) 01:36, August 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm also trying to add that tumblr link to http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:R4astromech.jpg but it won't let me? would you be able to help? Astromecha (talk) 01:41, August 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to change the name from R4-series agromech droid to R4-T8 in the description box but it says it is harmful and to contact an administrator. Astromecha (talk) 01:43, August 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...are you still there? Astromecha (talk) 01:46, August 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Good lord, kid. Calm down. Your account's not old enough to have the permissions to add external links; give ait a day or so. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  01:53, August 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh ok. sorry! I didn't mean to bother you. It's just hard to do anything useful when ppl delete your edits and I keep getting blocked from doing anything useful. Is there someone else I should ask for help from? Astromecha (talk) 02:05, August 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm really keen to help out but just don't know where to start... Astromecha (talk) 02:08, August 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * At the moment, your account is less than three days old, so you're running into our abusefilter that blocks spammers from adding random links. Once your account is three days old, you'll be able to edit pages that have external links (as it's the Tumblr link that's blocking you on the R4 article). Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  02:19, August 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * OH! ok! thanks for explaining it to me. Well I might come back later then. Have a nice day! Astromecha (talk) 02:22, August 18, 2015 (UTC)

Canon

 * Cade: I knew about the Disney takeover, but not about effects on the EU or Wookieepedia. I was puzzled when I saw the "Canon" and "Legends" tabs, so I looked up "canon" on Wookieepedia. Rickyrab (talk) 01:26, August 18, 2015 (UTC)

Hi; you removed some Behind the Scenes information from the Nomad Squadron entry noting it as "speculation/unverified info".

Regarding the veracity of that informatiom, I am the author of the article from Star Wars Gamer that this entry refers to. The details I added are from my original draft of that article, as stated. I've added similar Behind the Scenes details to other references to this article without issue. Is there a specific problem with this text? --2.96.170.232 16:36, August 18, 2015 (UTC)

Unnamed Star Wars Areas
I noticed that you deleted the page for the unnamed Star Wars areas planed for Disney world and land. Can you please give me some information as to why you did this? Thanks -Sithpiciously Evil (talk) 17:22, August 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * Because they're not relevant to our site at this time, and the article was lacking in the most basic formatting - it was a quote with a link. We don't need an article on the theme parks, and even if we did that wasn't an article to be kept. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  17:25, August 19, 2015 (UTC)

The second page you deleted -- the "Star Wars themed-land" article that was the more properly written one -- at one point had the "Proof of notability" tag which indicates a 7 day period where deletion can be discussed. Wouldn't it be proper to have the page up with the tag for those 7 days before deletion? There was a bit of a discussion starting on the talk page, too. --JMM (talk) 02:15, August 20, 2015 (UTC)

Subject Maurice.136 block i think it is a good thing blocking maurice.136 as i have been unfairly blocked by him on slugterra wiki. I have tried everything from trying to compormise/negoiate a resouloution to the block sbut he is just a heartless admin. Please block him longer to teach him a lesson Kind Regards Gene Khan --Gene Khan (talk) 04:31, August 22, 2015 (UTC)

Orbalisk armor in SWTOR
Just so you know, Orbalisk armor will appear this month in TOR. --Nostalgia of Iran (talk) 10:23, August 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm aware. Thanks. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  13:22, August 24, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Barsen'thor
Yea, I saw that already. Thanks for the heads up anyway. Couple of points I'd like to clarify though. First of all, it seems that there is still no site-wide policy about the status of the FFG game. I know we haven't had any explicit official word, but the rulebook credits the Story Group and references, at least by providing pictures of, some of the canon-only characters, which lends some credibility to its canon status. If it were canon, then we would need to create the "Barsen'thor/Canon" page with only the information provided in the rulebook. However, we seem to have unanimously decided to accept the info about the Barsen'thor as Legends information. Now, I'm not disagreeing with that decision, I'm all for it in fact. By doing so, though, we are now taking a stance on the roleplaying game's canon/Legends status, a matter which so far has been swept under the rug and ignored due to lack of official input. I just think that the canon policy should reflect this stance, instead of saying "the game's status is unknown" as it currently does. What's your opinion on this? Do you think it should be taken to a CT?

Provided that we do accept this information, that brings me to my second question. Since the wording is "it is thought to be" his tomb, I'm assuming that we're treating the info about the tomb as an in-universe rumor, correct? What about the Jedi Academy game then, which mentions the Jedi buried in the tomb? Would it go into the appearances as something like this:


 * Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy

Or do we treat the professor's statement as a fact and use the simple instead? In either case, does the Jedi Academy mention warrant the tag as well? I'm not really sure what to make of this. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 15:51, August 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. You bring up a good point about the canon policy; I'll be sure to bring it up for further discussion in IRC. As for the second thing, the "is thought to be" is from the professor's own perspective, as he's never actually been down there. The existence of the tomb is question IMO, not the identity of the person buried there. I'd say that the Barsen'thor is in fact buried in the tomb, and thus the Jedi mentioned in Jedi Academy is the Barsen'thor. So... yeah, 1stm Retcon for the appearance. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  16:59, August 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * One thing I'd just point out is that references to the Story Group don't automatically mean something is canon. The Old Republic references the Story Group now in its more recent expansions. The Holocron continuity database, like Wookieepedia, still has its Legends section, so the Story Group can still assist in making sure that Legends material lines up with other Legends stories. This refers just to the Legends-exclusive information in the material, not canon information that's also included. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 17:04, August 24, 2015 (UTC)


 * On a slightly unrelated topic, I've been wondering, do you think that the mention of the "third" Barsen'thor in the Force and Destiny rulebook also counts as an indirect mention of the first and second Barsen'thors, since "third" kind of implies that there was a first and a second one? Or am I stretching the definition of indirect mention too much? QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 17:00, August 26, 2015 (UTC)

Sarco Plank
Why did you undo the image?????--CartoonChaos (talk) 02:57, September 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * Firstly, the book's not even out yet, so I'm not sure why you have it or why you think it's appropriate to add content from it. Secondly, you repeatedly fail to properly upload the image through Special:Upload, as Wikia's Add Photo button or whatever it's called at the moment is not a supported method here. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  03:00, September 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * My Walmart had early Aftermath, Lost Stars, the Han, Leia, and Luke journey to the force awakens books and I purchased the book and I decided to start reading it and saw that Sarco Plank was in it. I scanned the back of the cover with Sarco on it into the computer and I was disappointed to see the image removed.--CartoonChaos (talk) 03:14, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Help on another Wiki
Hey Cade

I was wondering if you would be able to help me on another Wikia with some templates that I'm having trouble with? If you have enough time.

Regards CommanderConnor (talk) 14:21, September 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * What problem are you having? Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  15:13, September 3, 2015 (UTC)


 * I can't see to get some templates to work properly and can't work out why haha. I'm trying to emulate the templates on the Episode Pages with the appearances as the sections are too long but can't get it to work. Link's below:

Practice Page http://dccomicsextendeduniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Man_of_Steel/Sandbox

App Template http://dccomicsextendeduniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Template%3AApp

Same thing with the Cast as well.

Regards CommanderConnor (talk) 15:49, September 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, when you copied the App template (which I've properly credited now) you gutted the actual bulk of the template, leaving only the ToC. I've restored the functionality and stripped out the heavily-customized functionality that Wookieepedia uses. As for the Credits template, both that and App rely on Javascript hide functionality. this needs to be added to this by an administrator on your site. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  16:29, September 3, 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm the only admin on the site but I can't see where I can activate Javascript anywhere. That second link I need to add to only gives me the "view source" option? Got any pointers?

CommanderConnor (talk) 17:54, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

The Hero
Doesn't add really any new info, but since the Hero article has always been your baby I thought I'd link you to what just showed up on SWTOR.com. &mdash; DigiFluid(Whine here) 16:09, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Disney Infinity 3.0
Why did you get rid of all of my edits on the Disney Infinity 3.0 page? I've been spending days on that! That is many hours wasted. --Kyle03 (talk) 21:09, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Black Leader.
My apologies on giving the page the wrong title. I had just used what the Black Squadron page was called, adding Resistance to the title. Roger Murtaugh (talk) 23:07, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Bulk page import and minor CSS
Hello! (I left this message on Toprawa_and_Ralltiir talk and he directed me to you)

I've been doing some work on the wiki for the upcoming "Star Wars: Uprising" game. I'm currently in the middle of making several templates for the equipment and abilities. But there are a few things I need help with:

1. I hacked the assets from a beta version of the game. I then wrote a program to extract the weapon data and export everything to wiki syntax (using the templates I'm writing). It's using the XML import/export syntax for bulk edits. Everything is pre-categorized and formatted correctly. However, only an admin can do a bulk edit :/ so would you be willing to help me out? When it's ready, I will send you the file for review. All the pages are under the super walkthrough portal and under a sub-page named "Equipment".
 * Send me the file and I'll take a look. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  02:23, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

2. I am trying my best to use the new infobox that is optimized for SEOs. But it is very difficult to customize the look and feel of the box. I've been trying to make the stats use the same color scheme as the game, but I can't do it with the new infobox's default setup.

Would it be possible for you to add a few lines of CSS to help me? I would ensure it only affects what I'm working on. I would hard-code it to only work below a unique class namespace. Once again, I would let you review it first.
 * Sure, let me see what the CSS is and I'll add it.

3. Similar to #2, would it be possible for you to add a few Star Wars specific fonts to your wiki? Once again, I want the stats portion to look and feel like the in-game stats page.
 * Sure, how would you do that?

4. Would you allow both #2 and #3 on the Mobile skin's CSS? It's a mobile game, so it's reasonable to assume most views would be from mobile devices.
 * Sure.

I understand this is a lot for someone to ask, especially before that person has made 20 edits. So here are a few of my qualifications to hopefully make you feel a little more at ease:


 * Dead Island Profile - Profile on the dead island wiki where I am Admin.
 * wikiMod - My Wikia javascript library for mobile support.
 * SteamBox - A script I wrote for Steam Profile integration. Look at my profile for a full example (heavy CSS usage).
 * TabViewEditButtons Example - An example of my TabView edit buttons script (also CSS heavy).
 * Wikia Stars Profile - I am a wikia star.

If you have any questions or concerns, please let me know.

20:47, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Bulk page import and minor CSS
Thanks for the quick response.

1. Do you have an address I could send it to?
 * Jorrel gave me the file, let me take a look.
 * Which file did he give you? I had everything implemented a few days ago, but I have a few minor edits/updates that need to go up.
 * Uh, out.xml on Thursday. If that's old, my email's at the top of this page. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  16:43, September 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thats taken care of. But thank you any way. 17:06, September 14, 2015 (UTC)

2. The CSS is available on my test wiki here. (example of what is does here)
 * It's not visible from that page but I've got it elsewhere. However, is this still necessary to do? I saw Mark do a lot of CSS stuff in the past few days (I've been traveling and busy at Wikia) and the templates look like the ones on your test wiki in both Monobook and Oasis.
 * Yea I got someone to put it up globally for me.

3. Just add it like any other CSS. However, all the "@font-face" should be moved to the very top of the document (but below any "@import" lines). It's not required like with imports, but it's standard practice.

4. Do you currently edit your wiki's mobile CSS or JS? If not, it would take a little work, and I would have to write you some custom js code. But after that, you would be able to enhance your mobile wiki as much as you want. (but it does require you to have JS editing permissions).
 * I did, but with the advent of Mercury and the deprecation of the wikiamobile skin, there's no way that I know of to do so.
 * Via the MW namespace. If you look at my templates on this wiki via your phone, it will look the same.
 * Alright, I'll bite. Also, what's with the "MediaWiki:X CSS" pages? Why aren't they are at "MediaWiki:X.css" and how exactly are they being loaded?
 * the verbatim tag. And it's not .css because it's raw html. 17:06, September 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. Bit messy, but it works. I'll take a look, thanks. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  17:17, September 14, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your help 02:43, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Some other things:
 * For pages like this, I think or something to convert the title into a more readable/user-friendly (maybe just removing the namespace and the backslash)
 * DISPLAYTITLE doesn't rename. It only works on the first letter of the page name (IPod -> iPod). There is a script installed on the wiki that is supposed to allow this, but it's old, broken, and poorly written. I sent someone a script I wrote to replace it. And mine will work on any skin (including mobile).
 * Not sure why you're saying that it doesn't rename; we've been using it for well over a year to hide the /Canon part of titles on our canon articles&mdash;it's a major functionality of the Eras template. Mercury seems to be the only skin that's rejecting the title change.
 * ohhh ok. That's not the default functionality of DISPLAYTITLE. Having to change the full title is something that has to be enabled. So should I use that? Do you wanna look at my script for the mobile wiki? I could probably tweak it to fix pages that use DISPLAYTITLE. I've been reading the new skin's code and most extensions have to be partially rewritten to hook into it correctly. 17:06, September 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, go with DISPLAYTITLE; it's widely used here and it's best to keep things consistent (and without JS if possible). However, I am noting that my Chrome mobile emulation is seemingly derping out on your Uprising pages. It keeps saying that the pages don't exist, and they only show up when my emulation weirdly switches back to wikiamobile.
 * I wanna say it's a namespace thing, but I honestly don't know. Is it a server level error saying the page doesn't exist (like a 404?), or asking you to make a new page where one doesn't exist? Also, it looks like someone shit the bed and doesn't know it :/ i haven't looked into it, but someone edited a MW string for the mobile site trying to load some CSS. But whoever it was chose a string that gets sanitized and now the mobile menu is super screwed up. Yall should use "Mobile Full Site". It doesn't get sanitized and if it fails, it's at the end of the page. 18:38, September 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks like Mercury can only reach the mainspace at the moment, so I'm letting it be. As for the string in question, that was the original backdoor into wikiamobile that appears to have been broken in the last few weeks. What do you mean by Mobile Full Site? Is that a page or extension or something? Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  18:42, September 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * (...continued) No it's the MW page that controls the text for the "Full Site" link at the bottom of mobile skins: Dead Island's Mobile Full Site. I threw that together to quickly load all my JS tools/fixes/CSS for my wiki. Just keep in mind most wikia libraries aren't loaded, so use some of my libs if you need js.
 * Ah, so it's the same backdoor but with a different door. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  18:59, September 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * Does it work with CSS, and is it better to use verbatim or just style tags right in the page?
 * A verbatim tag wont work in a place that doesn't get processed :P Just use raw html (so inside a style tag).


 * Similarly, HideContentSub would probably be useful on quite a few of those pages.
 * Would you mind (if it's possible) to categorize the templates that you've been making?
 * Yea, I'll clean it up tonight.


 * For categories, we prefer to use plural forms, like Category:Ability Templates for Star Wars: Uprising and Category:Abilities in Star Wars: Uprising. Similarly, is there really a need for the three categories on the Grenade page? Abilities seems like it should be a subcategory of the walkthrough, and Targeted Abilities should be a subcategory of the abilities category. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  16:53, September 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure. I'll get on that tonight also.

First Order Stormtrooper
Would you mind deleting First Order Stormtrooper so that First Order Stormtroopers can be moved to it? Thanks in advance. -  JMAS  Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 02:48, September 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * Per IRC discussion, it's currently unclear as to whether "First Order Stormtroopers" is an organization or just a type of soldier, so we're defaulting to the SW.com naming for now. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 02:55, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Mouse droid
I apologize Cade, but I wasn't really sure what you were trying to do by putting on the page (you didn't say anything in your edit description), as I already had  on it. I was just going by what the appearances section said. As for fixing the redirects for it, I realize now it may not have been the best to change the few links to the page before receiving better confirmation of its name, but I've become accustomed to doing so since my requests to have a bot update links have since not been fulfilled. Cevan (talk) 19:47, September 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by "Please stop only relying on what you're reading on the site."? Cevan (talk) 20:59, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Post-Community Connect Facebook group
SayuriDarling (Manhattan) setup a Community (Dis)connect Facebook group for following up on Community Connect.

If you want to join, you can message me on my talk page and I'll try to get you into the group. We can set up a more private means to get your Facebook info.

--Fandyllic 21:24, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

3.3 Factual correction
Hello,

My name is Kevin Tipa (kdtipa@gmail.com), and I'm writing to mention an inconsistency in the star wars wikia...

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The first article mentions the second death star as 900 KM in diameter. The second one mentions it's over 160 KM in diameter... just barely bigger than the first one. And they both cite the same source for their information.

Inq Meeting 74
Inq Meeting 74 will be held at 8 PM ET on September 26th.-- Exiled Jedi  ( talk ) 01:39, September 15, 2015 (UTC)

Star Wars 9 edits
Hi Cade. I was wondering about your recent edits to the Star Wars 9 page. Anakin is never mentioned by name; he's only referred to as "father," so it's an indirect mention. Second, I'm not sure why you removed "starship" from the vehicles section. A starship is a classification of vehicle; not all starships are vehicles (there are also walkers, repulsorcraft, etc.). Cevan (talk) 00:07, September 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * So Cade, if someone is mentioned as the parent of someone, but their name is not given, does that count as a mention rather than an indirect mention? You reverted my change on the Star Wars 9 page about Anakain being indirectly mentioned, despite "Anakin" never being uttered. Counting someone mentioning their parent(s) has always been considered an indirect mention, unless they give their name (unless people have been doing this incorrectly for years). For example, in "Tipping Points" Lux Bonteri mentions his mother, Mina, however he just says "my mother." On both her page and the episode page, it says she is indirectly mentioned. Ezra refers to his parents, Mira and Ephraim, throughout *Rebels* as "my parents." Currently they're counted as indirect mentions. Unless these were handled improperly, is there any reason Anakin is not just an indirect mention? Cevan (talk) 14:18, September 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, yes. I've always viewed an indirect mention as more of an offhand or unnamed mention. If every mention of "my father" or "his mother" was an indirect, then characters without official names like Kira Carsen's mother wouldn't ever have explicit mentions. Similarly, characters like Sidrona who were only named well after a number of sources were published (or in his case, the name wasn't found until years later) would only have indirect mentions. I apologize for any ill will I may have bore you in the past few days; it's been a weird week. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  20:11, September 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hrmmm. Actually, I'll ask around, I may be misreading this. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  20:15, September 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * All right, thanks. Also, that's no problem at all about any ill will you may've had. I'd like to take this opportunity to apologize for some of our little conflicts in the past, and any ill will towards one another that may have sprung up as a result. Cevan (talk) 22:22, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

A small question
Hey! I need to ask this, and you were the first admin I came upon, so I hope this won't bother you. I was reading The Bounty Hunters: Aurra Sing, and I see that the blind sorceress from the Order of the Ffib isn't listed in the characters that appear, and I can't seem to find an article about her. Is there any specific reason for that? Can I create the article?. -- 23:40, September 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I had just read the beginning of the comic when I wrote this, and I had forgotten the twist at the end of the comic that revealed the nature of the blind sorceress (I read the comic some time ago). Hahaha, well, sorry again!. -- 04:09, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

Chalmun's Cantina redirect
Hey Cade! The Mos Eisley Cantina was identified as Chalmun's Cantina in "The Princess, the Scoundrel, and the Farm Boy". However, this is currently a redirect that is contained in many Legends articles. Could you please set your bot upon it? :-) --LelalMekha (talk) 17:07, September 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * RoboCade's occupied at the moment, but will do so when it's free. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  18:12, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

how do I undo what you did on my missing user page?
Did you read my Message on my removed user page before you removed my user page? Ka mi la _0 64  talk  17:21, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

I'm serious I don't know how. Ka mi la _0 64  talk  22:47, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

m4-78
Hey man, just highlighting, around the time of the droids arriving on m4-78, is correct for the great droid revolution. Reference the timeline. In Kotor 2's dialogue, it is referenced by the player char, but due to cut content there is no further information. ("That would be about the time of the Great Droid Revolution" and no more options thereafter in the text). The timeline does match, and it is frequently referenced that it has been nearly 64 years.

TPB Vol. 3 Deletion
Hey, I noticed you deleted the page I just created for the third Star Wars Marvel series trade paperback. The trade paperback has an official title, and thus is an allowed page via the notability policy, "Internet marketplaces and listing sites, such as Amazon.com and Edelweiss, may only be used as independent confirmation of a future product if the listing specifies an official title." I'd appreciate it if you would undelete the page. Thanks. --Dentface (talk) 23:26, September 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm well aware of the policy, which was made specifically to curb this kind of article that you seem determined to continue to create. I deleted it because it was full of random assumptions&mdash;what makes you think you know which issues it'll contain, much less which series it's from? That looks to me to be simply the third volume of the main Star Wars series, which could quite possibly (and likely will) contain more issues than just the Vader Down ones. Virtually everything in the infobox is speculation&mdash;only the ISBN, publisher, page count, release date, and authors are specified, and since you don't know what issues, you can't say what series or what artists. Not to mention the relatively unnecessary inclusions in the Bibliography/External links. The point of the policy is that you really should wait until we actually have information beyond just a title. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  23:53, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

The F-11D page you deleted is confirmed by Lucasfilm http://www.starwars.com/news/a-galaxy-of-star-wars-the-force-awakens-books-coming-december-18-first-look In the on the cover on Star Wars: The Force Awakens Visual Dictionary http://a.dilcdn.com/bl/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2015/09/TFA-Visual-Dictionary_DK--828x1024.jpg Finn can be seen holding it

Ok i understand that but please then give the real reason for deletion other than nonsense, even though it was a bad set up page

Valkorion is Vitiate?
I was wondering what your input would be on this, I added two sources to Valkorion's talk page, one from an interview from Valkorion's voice actor and another from a 10 minute gameplay video from Gamespot. Both would seem to confirm that Vitiate and Valkorion are the same person, but I didn't want to edit the page before making sure it would be okay. 00:00, September 29, 2015 (UTC)

HK-01's appearance
Yeah, it bugged me too that HK-01 looks almost exactly like HK-47, despite the intermediate HK-24 looks different. I assumed it was just lazy artists.

Seventh Sister Species
It show in the new season that The Seventh Sister is a Mirialan she has the same skin colours as Barriss Offee and Luminara Unduli and alot of the fan and saying she is Mirialan--Dogsteeves (talk) 21:35, October 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey, not sure if this is explicit enough a source, but Freddie Prinze Jr. called the character a Mirialan on Twitter. --Dentface (talk) 22:01, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

7.1 New message
I'm sorry about the mess I did with Exterminator.

In "Mission to Almaran" page the Judicator is listed as a Victory-class Star Destroyer, but the link sends to the Imperial I-class. Is that a mistake?

Mark Entropik

French interlang link
Hi Cade Calrayn,

I'm the current administrator of the official french Wiki Star Wars. I see that french interlang link on this Wiki goes to an inactive and unofficial Wiki (this one). I think it can be better if your interlang link comes to the Wiki where I'm admin, what do you think about it ?

Treejy (talk) 11:58, October 10, 2015 (UTC)

New Republic in Shattered Empire
Cade, I was just curious about your most recent edit to the Shattered Empire, Part III page. I don't see how it's possible for the New Republic to appear in this issue, when it didn't appear in the previous one. It either had to appear in both or appear in neither. Cevan (talk) 20:00, October 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * It's right there in the opening crawl. It may not have been said outright in the previous issue, but they've apparently begun the transition. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  20:03, October 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * In that case, the New Republic should probably be added to the appearances section of the second issue as well, and the Alliance changed to mentioned only, or whatever is appropriate. Cevan (talk) 20:05, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

Your message
Hello Cade Calrayn. Some time ago you posted a message on my wall, stating that personal attacks were against the rules of Wookiepedia. I'm not quite sure I understand. Did I do something in the past that I shouldn't have? If I have, could you link me to the place? Thanks. --LoLuX12 (talk) 23:13, October 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * Whatever this was. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  23:31, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

SE-14r
Hey there,

I stumbled across the SE-14R page, and notoced that the page name calls it a Light Repeating Blaster. But isn't a Light Repeating Blaster a type of heavy weapon? Shouldn't it be a Light Repeating Blaster Pistol? Just thought I'd let you know.

--ReDquinox (talk) 20:38, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Species and demonyms
Hey Cade! I was wondering whether we have a policy regarding the inclusion of demonyms in species' names. E.g.: should an article be created at "Alderaanian wolf-cat" or simply "wolf-cat"? The corollary of that question is: can we assume that Rattatakian redjackets come from Rattatak even when the source doesn't say it explictely? (On the latter, I think it falls under common sense, but you never know.) Thanks! --LelalMekha (talk) 21:32, October 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Uh, I think it should keep the denonym if it's only mentioned once, and yes, the denonym works in reverse. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  22:17, October 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Good. I'll keep working with he same assumptions, then. Thanks for the opinion! --LelalMekha (talk) 22:19, October 21, 2015 (UTC)

Hello Administrator !

I'm here to tell you the mistakes on the homepage of the wiki. At the end of the page, where we can go in the others wiki, in others languages, the "Français" link go in a page which doesn't belong to Wikia. Can you change the link from http://wookiepedia.fr/wiki/Accueil to http://fr.starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Accueil, please ?

Thank you and sorry if I did mistakes, I actually learn English (I'm 14.) !

Outlander
Hey, Cade. I noticed that an article has been created for the KotFE Outlander. However, according to a recent CT, I think it should be moved to "The Outlander." What do you think? QuiGonJinn (Talk) 12:34, October 28, 2015 (UTC)

Query regarding New Republic Fleet articles
I want to begin adding information to our New Republic Defense Fleet article and the articles on the New Republic's five battle groups from The Essential Guide to Warfare, specifically on New Republic fleet organizations. However, Warfare and the Atlas both refer to the battle groups as commands within the New Republic's five fleets, while we still title our New Republic fleet articles "New Republic Fourth Battle Group", "New Republic Fifth Battle Group", etc., which is a stumbling block on me adding new information. Would you be able to rename the battle group articles to their "New Republic Fourth Fleet", etc. redirects so we can update according to the Warfare information?--The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari (talk) 19:00, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

SWTOR articles
You shouldn't be deleting my articles as nonsense. I have proof that those subjects are in game, with screenshots and everything. Just because they're not on your list (which is very nice), doesn't mean they don'y exist. User:RaidenX

Airplane sources
Hyperjumping, chased by Star Destroyer, Han, Luke and the droids (Obi-Wan is using the Force) are concerned and Luke makes Han to make the jump to light speed, Han replied that "do not like hyperjump shed water from an airplane "or something ... or, at least, in the Italian edition of Episode IV is so (I'm Italian), I apologize if I'm wrong. May the force be with you!

--Aledownload (talk) 16:57, November 10, 2015 (UTC)

Portable infoboxes: the return!
Hey Cade! Hope you've been well since Community Connect!

Just wanted to hit you up about portable infoboxes. It looks like most of the discussion and development here at Wook happened before CC, so I just wanted to see what we could do to restart the conversation and production.

I think you ran into a few questions back in the summer that may never have been answered, but I wondered if you could restate the problems you believe still exist, in case conditions have changed for you since August.

Ideally, we'd like top work with you to finish the work of conversion in the next few weeks, so you should know you have the total attention of the engineering staff. I'll be running point on communication, so please gimme whatever questions you have, and I'll get answers back to you in a jiffy. I think you probably have one of my cards from Community Connect, so do feel free to email me directly, if you'd find that more convenient. Thanks! 21:03: Tue 10 Nov 2015
 * Sorry, I've had a busy week; I'll take a look today. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  16:01, November 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * No worries; we all have those :) Let me know if there's anything I can do to help speed the process.  16:05: Tue 17 Nov 2015


 * So, I've taken a look and with my addition of a footer, there's only two issues really still there:
 * There's no way to reproduce the functionality of the imageBG parameter, which lets us put a background behind images that are partially transparent or not large enough (see Category:ImageBG). I'm checking on how widespread/if the width parameter is still used.
 * Our Imagewidth template is unusable with the portable infoboxes, and the image quality improvement from its resizing is lost. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  21:35, November 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, man :) Lemme look into these issues and I'll be back with questions, solutions, or maybe even both :) 21:42: Wed 18 Nov 2015
 * I can tell you immediately that the general way in which infobox images are handled in PIs with respect to your first point is to simply add code to the CSS which does a max-width of 100% (to stop super wide images from escaping the infobox boundaries) and then to do a height of 100%. In other words, it automates the width-setting process in a way that doesn't change the aspect ratio of the image, and therefore obviates the need for individually setting widths.  It also would eliminate the need to find a background. The images that typically would be most dis-served by this process would be ones that are less than 100px wide.  Do you have such small images being used in infoboxes here?  21:47: Wed 18 Nov 2015
 * Yeah, the imageBG parameter's only used when an image is less than 250px wide, which is the standard (and maximum) width of the vast majority of our infoboxes. A lot of WEG and comic images are like this, and it's not always a white or black background. Corinna A'Daasha, Kandria A'Daasha, Akanseh, and Alph are a few examples from Category:imageBG (though it seems there a few unnecessary uses in there). There's also instances where parts of the image is transparent, like Adelhard, Tani Ab'yla, and AccuTronics. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  21:58, November 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for that greater detail. Another question, is imagewidth actually working? I've tried several different infoboxes, and no matter how wide or narrow I set my browser width, the image width stays the same. As always, forgive me for asking dumb questions, but I'm just trying to quickly come up to speed here. :)  22:08: Wed 18 Nov 2015
 * It won't be affected by your browser width; all infoboxes images are loaded at 250px regardless. What it does is load the image itself at a larger size than 250px wide (not too large, and scaled to the actual size of the image) and then has the infobox's CSS automatically resize it to 250px wide, thus maintaining the quality that you'd have at the larger size. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  22:11, November 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Do you have maybe an example or two infobox images where imagewidth kicks in? Or does this happen to every infobox image?   22:26: Wed 18 Nov 2015
 * Everywhere, yeah. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  22:28, November 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * You may remember Shareif from Community Connect. He and I have been examining imagewidth for the past little while and I'm not sure we're properly understanding it. In the last few minutes I've built a little demo of it at User:CzechOut/ImageTest, where I've put a standard whatever call directly on top of an infobox-processed version of the same image.  Presumably, because the image is within character, it must be flowing through imagewidth as well.  But I can't see any difference between the two sets of images.  Am I misunderstanding something?


 * I'm not asking to challenge or dispute you, by the way. Rather, Shareif is so intrigued by the notion that there might be a trick he's missing in improving infobox image quality, that we might want to build your code, or something very like it, into the basic infobox code itself.  So the more we can understand about what's going on, the more likely it is that we can just make "Wookieepedia standard image handling" into "Wikia standard image handling".


 * If you have a better example of where image quality is definitely enhanced over Wikia's/MediaWiki's standard file calls, we'd be very much interested to see it. 23:40: Wed 18 Nov 2015
 * Hey Cade! :) Shareif and I are still very interested in what imagewidth is actually doing under the hood, but so far have only been able to see that it's increasing page load time. If you could give us a clearer example of where it's making a big difference as to image quality, we'd love to see it, as we'd love to improve infobox image quality for all of Wikia, if possible. Thanks! 20:20: Mon 23 Nov 2015
 * To be honest, I'm no longer actually able to see a difference between the two. I remember it being visible at one point, but I'm not really seeing it anymore. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  00:06, November 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * So, just to confirm, imagewidth is no longer a concern for you? And you spoke before of checking on how widespread the imageBG parameter actually is.  Were you able to get an assessment of how significant that usage was so that we can determine how much of a blocker it really is?   22:35: Mon 30 Nov 2015
 * Yeah, I don't think Imagewidth is a dealbreaker. However, ImageBG is widely used; I've gone through some more of Category:ImageBG, but it seems like there's at least several hundred, if not around a thousand, cases where the parameter is definitely in use and is needed. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  16:56, December 1, 2015 (UTC)

Revan sourcelist chronology
Hello Cade, respecting the inuse tag on Revan, just wanted to let you know that the new SW.com Ghosts of Mortis episode guide should have been listed after the old Databank entries. Unless you erroneously formatted the old episode guide, which should look like this:. Thank you. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 17:23, November 12, 2015 (UTC)

Small issue with Template:Charcolor
Hello, User:Brandon Rhea suggested I contact you about this. I've explained my problem on Template talk:Charcolor, but in short, there's an issue with the colors chosen for the infobox for First Order characters like Snoke: the gray text fades into the dark red headings and makes it hard to read. Would it be possible to change one color or the other? Tanzeelat (talk) 09:30, November 18, 2015 (UTC)


 * Bump, in case this got overlooked. Tanzeelat (talk) 01:07, November 24, 2015 (UTC)


 * Another bump. Tanzeelat (talk) 07:37, December 5, 2015 (UTC)

1.5 Fixing something Wikia broke
I'm new to this format, but I need to bring a serious issue to your attention. The Telos IV article says Telos was hit by Malak and Karath in 3960 BBY(remember, the years count down, kind of like BC). But the Revan article suggests that Telos was hit no earlier than 3958(2 years after 3960) when Foerost shipyard was attacked first. Now, per the KotOR 1 game, particularly between Revan and Onasi, it is cited that Onasi's wife died "4 years ago" and since the events of KoTOR 1 occur in 3956, it would seem the game was using the timeline posted in the Telos article. Either way, there needs to be some clarification and consistency. If the game is the original basis for the canon, then 3958 can't be an accurate Telos bombardment year. AND YET the Revan article says the FIRST attack was on Foerost in 3958, which preceded the bombing of Telos... so it seems as though the timeline in the Revan article is most out of alignment. 24.182.11.179 11:26, November 24, 2015 (UTC)

An anonymous user with the ip 72.175.248.86 deleted the entire Mace Windu page.

Talia (Nightsister)/Canon and others
Hi Cade. I was just wondering why you've moved the canon pages for Talia the Nightsister, as well as others, to include ([insert what they are here]) in the title. I realize that's how the Legends pages for them are titled, but in canon there are no other characters with that name, so I'm not sure I see the point in including (Nightsister) for Talia's canon page when she is the only Talia in canon. Cevan  (talk)  22:38, November 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * Because when the switch happens, there's absolutely no reason for pages like that to trump the existing OOU disambiguations, like Talia. There are multiple characters with that name. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  22:39, November 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * Got it. Thanks! Cevan   (talk)  22:42, November 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * This isn't related to Tryla at all, however instead of making a new section I figured I'd just ask it here. I noticed you moved "Skirmish on Carlac/Canon" to "Battle on Carlac," and said "this conjectural can't trump a confirmed name". Do you have a source for where the event is called "Battle on Carlac?" Currently the page still has the conjectural title tag. Cevan   (talk)  23:53, November 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * Other way round. The unrelated Skirmish on Carlac Legends article gets it name directly from its source, and that can't be trumped by a conjectural Skirmish on Carlac/Canon when the move happens. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  23:54, November 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * Got it; thanks Cade. Cevan   (talk)  23:55, November 27, 2015 (UTC)

Bot redirect request
Hey Cade. When you have some time, would you mind having RoboCade change all Control chip redirect links to Inhibitor chip/Canon? Thanks!  CC7567  (talk) 17:32, December 1, 2015 (UTC)

IRC
Honestly, if we're going to have a discussion on this sort, it's better if we use the Senate Hall forum. At least then, we can hold people accountable and have an actual record rather than using a chat room that won't just delete the material and not save it. To be honest, the latter's a rather dirty way to settle something. Had it been me in your position, I would have made absolute certain to have the discussion in the open, actually have it come to a vote, rather than go behind closed doors. So I think we should do the discussion again and this time make sure it's in the open. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 00:57, December 7, 2015 (UTC)

Infobox
Thanks for the heads up about the hide button; I was kinda scratching my head over that one. Well, this example infobox is almost ready to debut at User:CzechOut/Ship. Coupla questions for you:
 * 1) I need to alter some of the CSS.  I put my changes in MediaWiki:Infoboxes.css and was just going to add a little @import line over at Common, while also redacting the PI code at the bottom of Common.  My thought was this would keep all the tedious interstitial editing out of Common's history.  Does that seem like a reasonable plan of action to you?
 * 2) *Go ahead.
 * 3) I understand from Brandon that you guys need, as a matter of course, a week's debate on the sample infobox before we get underway with more full-scale conversion. How would you like to handle that debate period? Do you want to introduce the designs for approval, or should I do it?  Or would you like to pass it around more informally in the Wookieepedia IRC channel?   03:12: Tue 08 Dec 2015
 * 4) *The general IRC consensus is that no, this wouldn't need a CT; it's a behind-the-scenes change with minimal visual changes, just like the previous template rework when I converted them to metatemplates. One minute though, we're still discussing it. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  03:24, December 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * Cool. Just remember that the CSS in Infoboxes.css will square the circle on a lot of the differences between the non-PI and the PI.  I can implement those now, if it'd help the debate.   03:28: Tue 08 Dec 2015
 * Actually, now that we look at it, your ship example page definitely shows a difference in the image quality, and that was a sticking point for a few people when the quality changes first came about. Also, some other issues: the image on the portable infobox links to the actual image and not the File: page, which is a significant issue for us, and it'd be nice if the row label text could be centered vertically. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  03:35, December 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback!
 * The labels are now centered vertically.
 * The bottom of the box now has a bottom border radius
 * I'm not too sure what you mean about linking to the image rather than the file page. Whether at Millennium Falcon or either box at User:CzechOut/Ship, the infobox image seems to do the same thing: bring up a light box and show the image. Could you please define a little more what behaviour you'd like to have happen?
 * I'm still not able to see a difference between the PI image and the non-PI image. Could you maybe provide screenshots which demonstrate the lack of quality in the PI image?


 * Sorry if these last two points seem tedious to you, but I wanna get it right for you, and I just can't see what's actually wrong.  05:19: Tue 08 Dec 2015
 * For one thing, the portable infobox image is loading at 270px wide and isn't being resized at all, so it's leaking over the edge. Here is a comparison of the two at their proper dimensions; I'd upload it but it seems there's something up with our abusefilter. As for the other image thing, it's in Monobook&mdash;clicking on the image should lead you to the File: page and not here. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  14:47, December 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * You should find the "leaking-over-the-edge" phenomenon to now be fixed. (You may have to ?action=purge the URL to see the changes.)  Is that all that you were meaning — an image dimension issue — or was there some other image quality metric that was troubling?
 * As for the Monobook thing, I'll take a look. Thanks for defining that better! 15:42: Tue 08 Dec 2015
 * Thanks to Grunny's quick help, the Monobook issue you described has been fixed. As always, you may need to ?action=purge your URL to see the change working. Were there any other outstanding issue that you and the gang have? I'm at your disposal to fix things (or ask more and smarter people to help), so please don't be shy about making requests! 16:21: Tue 08 Dec 2015
 * Hey, I've checked more on the imageBG issue youy described earlier, now that we have a more or less working prototype infobox. Turns out that a significant number of the things in category:imageBG are sort of false positives. It took me around 50 random clicks before I found one that failed to extend to the limits of the infobox, and therefore showed the background.


 * However, there are indeed still some images where the background shows up. One thing we can do in the very short term is to change the default background to white, which would eliminate even more things as false positives.


 * Then I can work with our engineers to see if there's something we can do to accommodate switching the background for that fraction of category:imageBG that really needs it. In other words, I suggest we continue to look for a fix for this issue, but not let it block deployment of PIs, since it affects relatively few pages. Does that seem reasonable?  02:50: Wed 09 Dec 2015

RoboCade rampage
Yeah, I realize RoboCade's going to be busy with sweeping tasks over the next few days. I'm only leaving this message before the shutdown so I don't forget about it; I'm certainly not expecting you to act on it immediately.

In November 2014, RoboCade performed an edit with the summary "Fixing redirects and Layout Guide changes." In addition to numerous valid changes to the article, this edit erroneously deleted a chunk of text from the Galactic Republic/Legends paragraph. This removal of a full sentence and parts of two others left the paragraph in a nonsensical state (which has apparently gone unnoticed until now).

It'd be simple for me to restore this text using the edit history. However, I wanted to bring it to your attention first so that you could analyze the bot script and figure out what went wrong&mdash;and, more importantly, whether any other articles might have been affected by the bug. If it's just this one, or only a small number, fixing them by hand makes the most sense, but if the bug caused more pervasive damage, perhaps a new bot should clean up after the old one? The time elapsed since the buggy script was unleashed makes that tricky, though. In any case, figuring out the extent of the bug is the first step. Please let me know if there's any way I can help with this. Thanks, and talk to you after the switchover! Asithol (talk) 03:43, December 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see Exiledjedi went ahead and restored the missing text (I'd guess in response to my note above), mooting part of my message. Asithol (talk) 05:06, December 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * Fairly certain I went through RoboCade's contributions not long after that and found all of the issues; not sure why the Republic one slipped through. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  14:50, December 8, 2015 (UTC)

TOR image quality
I am getting into making articles for TOR, but the quality of the images taken using the printscreen button is terrible, at least on my end. How have you managed to improve the quality so much?--Jace Onasi (talk) 10:56, December 8, 2015 (UTC)

Infobox image quality
I think that we've managed to fix most of the problems you mentioned above, but I've looked again at User:CzechOut/Ship I finally figured out that the image resolution of the PI was crapping out when you zoomed in with your browser. The non-PI doesn't do this.

But the thing is, when viewing the infobox at the normal resolution, you'd be very hard-pressed to tell, particularly because the natural width of the PI is smaller than the non-PI. And not all pictures demonstrate this flaw as prominently as the Falcon. As you noted it with the images at User:CzechOut/ImageTest, you can't see the difference, no matter what the zoom level.

We've entered a period now where engineers are scarce as we wind down into the holidays. So I guess the question I have for you now is just how much of a problem this is for you guys? Is it going to prevent us from deploying the new PIs in time for The Force Awakens? 21:49: Thu 10 Dec 2015
 * Chiming in here to reinforce Shawn's point very directly: given the fact that this only happens when you zoom in, I can count on one hand the amount of people who this would actually impact. So considering the benefits far outweigh this very minor issue, let's not consider this an actual blocker. Let's move ahead with the portable infobox conversion, with the understanding that, after the holiday, engineering will be able to look into and address this problem one way or another. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 22:45, December 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Overnight, a gang of not-yet-holidaying engineers took a good, hard look at the portable infobox image quality issue. They have formulated a response that will improve image quality globally. It's based on your imagewidth solution, following your logic of increasing the width/resolution of the image from which the PI image is derived.


 * This plan is in code review now and will be deployed on Monday.


 * I've been getting updates all day on it, and I have absolutely no doubt that you're going to see satisfactory results Monday. It will completely obviate the need to continue using imagewidth, and, indeed, spread the logic of your template to the whole of Wikia.


 * Would it therefore be okay if we started doing infobox conversions this weekend, and allow the code that improves the images to go live ever-so-slightly after conversions have begun in earnest? 20:20: Fri 11 Dec 2015
 * Honestly, I've been super busy this week with the final week of school and the bot work, so all my little free time has been put towards managing the bots. I'll be able to catch up on these messages tomorrow morning; thanks again for your patience and work. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  20:22, December 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey, hey :) Looks like you had quite the productive weekend round here. The Legends/Canon switch seems to have gone well. With that and school, I can totally understand why you didn't have enough time to get back to me on infoboxes.  Still, I'd really like to get this wrapped up by Wednesday, so that all those people who are going to start flooding the site after Thursday night's showings of EpVII will be able to look on their phones (maybe even from the theatre lines!) and get the best possible viewing experience.


 * Towards that end, I've started dumping all the portable infoboxes I've created locally on my machine to /Draft pages here. You should know that we're still on track for a push, later today (or maaaaayyyyybeeeee tomorrow) to fix the imagewidth issue, and I think we've taken care of the vast majority of your objections.  Do you think it'd be okay to start approving these drafts?  17:19: Mon 14 Dec 2015
 * Give me three hours or so, I've got an exam in an hour, and then I'm clear to take a look. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  19:04, December 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, now that I've resolved the variety of technological issues that just happened to pop up in the last six hours, I've got one outstanding issue with the infoboxes; namely the imageBG field. Was this ever implemented? Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  01:25, December 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey Cade! Thanks so much for beginning to approve these /Drafts. You should know, if you haven't already noticed already, that there is some lag between when a /Draft is posted and when you can actually see the button to "see the draft" in Special:Insights. So you kinda have to just keep adding /Draft to URLs to figure out whether there's a /Draft there or not. Also, some of the template classification is a bit tricky.  For instance, with Information, even though it's in an infobox category, it's actually "non-article" because it's only/principally used outside ns:0.   01:27: Tue 15 Dec 2015
 * What about the imageBG parameter? Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  01:37, December 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry; we had an edit conflict. No, imageBG has not been addressed. As I pointed out earlier, it's something that affects only some of the ~1000 pages in category:ImageBG. There are:
 * many straight up false positives in that list
 * many others which have a white/transparent background, and so don't actually reveal any problems
 * some which were a problem in the non-PIs, but are no longer a problem since PIs are narrower
 * I roughly estimate the number of pages with a genuine background problem at ~.05% of your total pages. Since it's such a small number, I was hoping we could work on that after Christmas. IF I have a misapprehension about the size of the problem, please let me know and I'll see what I can do about reprioritising it. 01:40: Tue 15 Dec 2015
 * No problem, makes sense. I've got some serious back pain right now, so I'll be back in a bit. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  01:52, December 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, one thing we do need to keep is the ParamCheck stuff from the bottom of the original versions; those are used for maintenance categories. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  01:59, December 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Heya :) I'm sorry to hear you're having back pain. I know how badly that sucks, so I don't want to overtax you. I've been trying to release a few new infoboxes every few hours, so as to minimise the time you had to spend at the computer doing approvals.  I'm not sure that it worked, but that was my intent. I'm stopping for the evening now, so that should give you a definite break until morning.


 * Since you've already approved the basic style that all these take, we could just have Grunny finish up the initial approvals tomorrow, and then when you're feeling better, you and I can jointly go over any problems you detect in individual infoboxes. Or not. :) Whatever is easier for you to do. :)


 * If you can get to some approvals, there are a few that are super high priority.


 * Obviously, we'd like to get Character done, since it's the infobox on the most number of pages. Shareif has had this working for several months now, and I recently made a few tweaks to bring the styling to the same standard as the rest of the infoboxes. You can play around with the  variable in the example at Character/Draft to discover how readily the colors change.


 * Other high-priority targets include Movie, Television episode, and any of the templates that are on more than 2000 pages.


 * Finally, I didn't see your request about ParamCheck stuff until a little while ago, after I'd uploaded several dozen more infoboxes. I'm a little confused about the ParamCheck code, since I only ran across it a few times. On a few occasions, it was delivered via parser functions; on others, by a Lua invocation.  But by and large it was just absent, so those few times I came across it, I thought it was just experimental code and so didn't include it in the PI. Since it appears so inconsistently, emme ask you a couple of questions:
 * Is it supposed to be on every infobox template, and people just never finished the job of adding it?
 * If so, would you like to take this opportunity to just put it on every template? Or should I only put it back where it was?
 * Do you prefer the Lua version or the parser function? (Personally, I think that since you've got the Lua code running well, it probably makes most sense to use that.)


 * Again, sorry for making a wrong assumption, but we'll get it cleared up soon enough. :) 09:15: Tue 15 Dec 2015

Re: Canon redirects
Sorry about that, Cade. Cevan   (talk)  04:26, December 15, 2015 (UTC)

Infobox approvals
It's probably time to start a new section, since we're not really talking about infobox image quality anymore.

As you may have discovered Special:Insights is somewhat slow to update, so I'm gonna try to keep you apprised of my uploads here. That way, you don't have to go hunting through the whole list, like I think you did when you started approving yesterday.

I'm now trying to release infoboxes in groups of 5-10, along categorical lines, so it's easier for you to study them as a group of related infoboxes. I've just finished uploading the entirety of spacecraft infobox templates and category:Vehicle infobox templates.

Still, the infobox that needs approving — really, ASAP today — is character. By far, the thing that most casual fans are going to want from their phones as they descend upon theatres this weekend is information about the characters from EpVII, so it's vital we get that going just as soon as you possibly can.

Thank you so much for all the work you've put in to improve Wookieepedia over the past coupla weeks. We're almost at the finish line where we can all relax into just being fans again. 20:48: Tue 15 Dec 2015
 * Thanks, I would've started again earlier today but I've been moving apartments. I was actually just going through your contribs, as like you said Special:Insights isn't the most up to date. I looked at Character last night, but it was an unfinished version (which appears to have been updated). I do have one issue&mdash;our actually have a width of 300px instead of the standard 250px, and I wasn't sure how/was too tired to figure out how to apply that to the portable versions. Any ideas? (also, it looks like they no longer do three/four columns across, but that was always a bit of a hack via an infobox within an infobox or something.)  Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  23:22, December 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, now that I've popped back into IRC, it's been pointed out to me that images aren't loading at the 250px max; see Xexto for example&mdash;it's loading at 240.918px instead, and thus we've got borders. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  23:28, December 15, 2015 (UTC)