Talk:Rune Haako/Legends

Photo of Death
Poor Haako, here's his body. http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9241/runesbody2fk.jpg --Rune Haako 21:51, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC) Who are the person/people on the table? Is it Shu Mai and Cat Miin? Mastermundi 14:09, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
 * We'll need a much better image than that. Admiral J. Nebulax 22:17, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry, it's the best I could get since you can only see his body when those sparks are flying. Rune Haako 23:35, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Those are Anakin and Obi-Wan. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 16:05, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Death
In RotS, when Anakin is killing everyone, is it Haako who screams "Stop, No, No!" The face looks like him, but it is in the Control room, not the conference room. Also, I think the hat is Rute Gunnay's. Any ideas? Mastermundi 12:32, 28 March 2006 (UTC) Which one? Rune or Rute? Mastermundi 13:46, 28 March 2006 (UTC) That would mean that we don't see Rune's death, which seems odd because he is a better-known Separatist leader. Mastermundi 11:23, 29 March 2006 (UTC) But we know Rune as a main character from TPM, so he is more well-known, rather than important. Mastermundi 11:32, 31 March 2006 (UTC) You can say that again! Mastermundi 14:16, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah it's him.--Rune Haako 13:34, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Rute Gunnay, I suppose. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 21:22, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * He's more of an aide than an actual leader.... - Kwenn 11:24, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't think that it really mattered if we saw Haako's death or not. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 20:28, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * It's Haako that screams, "Stop, Noooo" but it's Gunnay that gets sliced.--Rune Haako 21:40, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Weird... Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 22:00, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * The massacre scene was just badly edited.--Rune Haako 11:36, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay... The massacre scene was just badly edited. ;) Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 18:13, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * According to the original script, Nute and Rune are hiding under the table. In a panic, Rune rushes out, but gets caught by Anakin. That would explain what his body's doing all the way over there, as well as the overturned chair.
 * Yes, but the original script was changed, along with Nute's position. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 21:09, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, I notice that when Rune yell "Stop, No", he wear one hat, but when he yes "Ahhhh", he wear another hat, the only mistake in there was the hat, not the guy wearing the hat. Oh, and a message to the guy that was talking about Rute Gunray, it's "NUTE", "NUTE GUNRAY", not Rute, but Nute, Nute yes, Rute no. Double D 01:12, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
 * No, there's a Rute Gunnay. Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:09, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Oh, now i get it. When Rune died, he's have belong to this "Rute" guy. (I just saw Rute's picture.) Double D 23:53, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
 * "he's have belong to this "Rute" guy". What are you talking about? Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 16:03, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

So Rune is the one that shouts 'no, no!!!', and is killed right after Poggle the Lesser is cut in half??? Master Secura
 * I believe so. Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:30, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Battle of Geonosis
Now, we all know there's a bit of awkwardness involving Rune Haako and Attack of the Clones. The article says that Lucasfilm's official stance is that the guy we saw on Geonosis is Rune. Now, I know several EU sources say Rune is on Geonosis, and there's really nothing to say that he wasn't. But did Lucasfilm actually come out and say that our non-Rune-looking friend (Gilramos?) IS Rune, or just that Rune was officially on Geonosis with Nute?
 * The alledged Gilramos on Geonosis is Haako. If you ask me, it's a load of bull, but I have to side with canon. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:31, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Either that needs to be changed for next years "archival editions", or that's plainly not Rune. Thefourdotelipsis 23:45, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, canon currently says that's Haako. And don't remove it from the article again. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:00, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Where is this source you speak of? Because there are three LFL approved products that say that he WASN'T on Geonoisis - Attack of the Clones (film and credits...this is freaking G-CANON for CHRISSAKE!), AOTC Visual Dictionary, and the Databank. So what's your source? .  .  .  .  09:55, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Leeland Chee. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:05, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Chee is on the same level of canonicity as David West Reynolds...and the Lott Dod credit supercedes both. .  .  .  .  11:22, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Stop disputing canon. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:35, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Tell that to Chee. .  .  .  .  23:15, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Knock it off. I don't like it either, but it's canon. Deal with it like I have. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:16, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but one C-Canon source does not trump Two C-Canon sources and a G-Canon source. I'm that far away from shifting the AOTC content out of the article, and opening up a seperate section of the article explaining the discrepancy. .  .  .  .  23:19, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * If you do that, I'll revert it and consider it vandalism. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:51, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * What, for presenting established canon as opposed to a false contradiction of the film? Hmm. .  .  .  .  03:14, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The current G-canon explanation says Haako was on Geonosis. Now, knock it off. You're not going to change anything. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:08, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Chee does not supercede the films. .  .  .  .  11:11, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * But retcons can change something in the films. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:15, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * This retcon contradicts the films, however, which a retcon cannot, nay, should not do. .  .  ..
 * Uh, retcons can change things in the films. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:25, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Unless it's an SE change, it can't change the print of the film. Retcons like Walex Blissex in ROTJ do not contradict the film - this one does, therfore it should be dismissed. .  .  .  .  22:28, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * You're not in charge of dismissing canon. Now, I advise you not to keep this up unless Chee announces that Haako wasn't on Geonosis. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:46, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * When did Chee make the statement? Pre-ROTS or Post-ROTS? Because that makes a hell of a difference. .  .  .  .  00:40, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Post-RotS, I believe. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:06, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * What a wacko. .  .  .  .  01:55, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thefourdotelipsis, stop it. I don't like it either, but you don't see me trying to get an official statement disregarded as canon. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 02:05, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't see an official statement, either. .  .  .  .  02:23, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * What do you mean, you don't see an official statement? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 02:25, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Where is this statement of Chee's? Without a link to it in the sources, we cannot use that information .  .  .  .  02:30, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, it's official information anyway, especially with this new blog link in the next section. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 13:33, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I know, I added that. Debate over. .  .  .  .  22:13, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm aware of that. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:20, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Mhm. So why comment? .  .  .  .  01:19, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I said that because you had asked "Where is this statement of Chee's?". Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 14:28, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * And yet you "knew" that I was the one that added the new content. .  .  .  .  23:10, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, no, I didn't know you had added the link to the article when I wrote that. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:19, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Alrighty then. .  .  .  .  06:15, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Rune Haako on Geonosis
The Starwars Databank has Haako appear in only episode 1 and 3, leaving the fact that the Aide to Nute Gunray was Gilramos Libkath. This problem was sort of encountered in episode three when the character Rute Gunnay appeared which is an obvious anagram of Nute Gunray wherein the N and R are switched around. I would appreciate the the databank would be edited to this conclusion despite what Lucasfilm states as you cannot delete a character from existance and portray it as another despite many high similarities.
 * 1) We're not the Databank. 2) Current canon says Haako was with Gunray on Mustafar. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 14:44, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * But you argued against the fact that OOM-9 was once a standard battle droid, which was against established canon. You know why you said that? Because it's common sense - That is NOT by any strech of the imagination, Haako on Geonosis. .  .  .  .  09:08, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Haako was on Geonosis. Leeland Chee said it himself. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:05, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Aha! That doesn't mean that he was the Neimoidian with Gunray, does it? .  .  .  .  11:21, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * He was that Neimoidian with Gunray. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:23, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Three sources against one. And one of the three is G-Canon. .  .  .  .  12:10, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Look, if Chee said that Boba Fett was the mother of Waru, when he's clearly not, would that account to a ret-con of Boba Fett actually being Female? Of course not. .  .  .  .  12:13, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Leeland Chee speaks for G-canon as well. Drop it. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:07, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * There is only one person that speaks for G-Canon, and that's Lucas. I'm sorry, but there's too much evidence to the contrary. .  .  .  .  22:32, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Will you knock it off already? Current canon says Haako was in Episode II and on Mustafar with Gunray. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:35, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Common sense says he wasn't, as well as a G-Canon source, and two C-Canon ones. .  .  .  .  23:14, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Except the latest G-canon statement on the issue says he was at Geonosis. Drop it. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:15, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Chee is not G-Canon. .  .  .  .  23:22, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Chee speaks for LFL, so he is.-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 23:40, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Now, enough. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:51, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The films are gospel, and the credits of the film explicitly state that that IS NOT HAAKO. Chee may well represent LFL, but he does not supercede the films, under any circumstance. I like Chee, all power to him, but the statement that the second Neimoidian on Geonosis is Haako IS A CONTRADICTION OF THE FILM! .  .  .  .  03:13, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Now, would it be too much to ask for an actual source on Chee's claims? I would like to look at the wording of it, and list it as a source for the article. .  .  .  .  05:04, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * It's not a contradiction of the film. It's called a retcon. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:08, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * No, it's a contradiction. The credits state "Lott Dod", and the Nemoidian that Lucas is presenting in the film is clearly not Haako. .  .  .  .  11:11, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * And then it was retconned to say that Haako was on Geonosis. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:15, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Despite the fact that it is clearly NOT Haako. I understand what a retcon is, but the character that Lucas has presented there is clearly not Haako. Haako's similarity in ROTS to his appearance in TPM confirms this. .  .  .  .  12:06, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * What does the Complete Visual Dictionary call him?-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 13:53, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll check. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:27, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm curious to see what it says too, but can we please have a source for Chee's statement? .  .  .  .  22:29, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * When I first saw his statement, I thought he meant that in the filming, the Neimoidian was technically supposed to be Haako. It didn't seem clear if he meant it was also Haako in-universe. Can we check with him to make sure it definitely is Haako in the continuity?-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 02:09, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, you see, that's what I want to see in his wording. If he says that the character was meant to be Haako, then we can take it that that was what was intended, but not what happened. But I don't know how contact him on TOS though. .  .  .  .  03:45, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, the character was meant to be Lott Dod. Then it was Libkath. Currently, with the retcon, it's Haako. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:06, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I want to see what he said, whether it was a retcon, or just a statement. It's all in the wording. So where's the link? Without a verifiable source, that material cannot be placed in the article. .  .  .  .  01:52, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The Complete Visual Dictionary says it's Haako. Canon is canon. This debate is over. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 02:05, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I would still like to see Chee's statement, but the point is conceded. .  .  .  .  02:20, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Check the edit history of the page. I keep thinking that a link was provided in an edit summary. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 02:22, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * No dice. .  .  .  .  02:28, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I know there was a link provided. I know it. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 02:30, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Well, you show me the link in the edit history, then. Because without a source.... .  .  .  .  02:34, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Bingo. Tasty Taste recently (meaning this week) made another confirmation with Rune Haako in his blog. There's your source. .-- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 04:50, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Please sign your comments, and thanks. Game Over. .  .  .  .  03:39, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Finally over. Next time, though, please don't argue with canon. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 13:33, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Look mate, how was I to know if it was canon with no source? .  .  .  .  22:14, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Personally, I think a good explanation for his appearance in AotC could just be self-indulgence. I think the stress of the Clone War could have then caused him to become thin and take on a more sickly appearance.-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 03:28, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * True... Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 04:25, 17 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Ha! I say that he cosmetically altered his appearance, as it would have been scandalous to have been associated with the Separatists...but all of the theories go right out the window in light of his perfectly normal appearance in ROTS. .  .  .  .  12:08, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * He doesn't look the same in ROTS as he does in TPM.-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 12:30, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Pish, he looks very similar. .  .  .  .  12:35, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Not really. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:35, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * For one thing, his face appears very flat in ROTS compared to that of his TPM appearance. I think he looks kind of ill. Anyway, we are talking about a character who isn't human.-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 14:19, 17 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Good point. Who knows what Neimoidians go through. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:41, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, you have to admit, he looks a hell of a lot more like he did in TPM in ROTS than he did in AOTC. .  .  .  .  04:19, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yet there can be a natural cause for that. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:20, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Just like Whiphids suddenly being able to go into a near death trance? .  .  .  .  22:25, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * What? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:08, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, I suppose you don't know about the K'Kruhk consipracy. The Clone Wars cartoon depicted the "death" of K'Kruhk, but then Dark Horse, being the wise bastards that they are, decided to keep him alive, and depicted him as being such in a comic set after the Battle of Hypori. Thus, Whiphid healing trance was born. :( .  .  .  .  23:30, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm quite aware of K'Kruhk's supposed death. Yet I see nothing wrong with there being a Whiphid healing trance. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:04, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I'm just a little disgusted by the stupid little retcons that people like Chee and Pena have to clean up, all due to a lack of coordination in the EU. But I think the prescence of the Holocron should stop this from happening in the future. .  .  .  .  02:02, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Wait, I though it was the same ability Asajj Ventress used to make herself appear dead.-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 05:12, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Nup, they had to create a whole new ability for the species. Easy enought to do, but messy. .  .  .  .  05:33, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, unless you have anything to contribute further, I ask you not to keep this up. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:15, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * You're the one that keeps replying. .  .  .  .  23:01, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * That's only because you keep it up. Now, let this post end it. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:28, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * OK. .  .  .  .  03:33, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Photo
It should be from TPM - it's his earliest appearance and most prominent one Thefourdotelipsis 02:18, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * No. We tend to go with photos of them from their latest movie appearance (with a few exceptions). Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 15:06, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, why can't Haako be an exception? .  .  .  .  09:07, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * No, the question is why should he be an exception? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:05, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Mmkay, let's make an exception: Haako's most prominent and important role was in TPM, wheras in ROTS he had one line. Luke's most famous costume is his ANH one, but just because Haako is less famous, it doesn't mean the same rule shouldn't apply to him. .  .  .  .  11:20, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * This is an excellent infobox picture. Don't remove it. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:23, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * There are better. Far better. .  .  .  .  12:09, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * No. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:07, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * What do you mean, no? You can't just say no. Portraits should be in the infobox, not full body shots. .  .  .  .  22:33, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * No, full-body shots are used for main images. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:35, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Since when? Wikipedia uses Portraits more often than not. It's simply more encyclopedic. .  .  .  .  23:15, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * We're not Wikipedia. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:16, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Our policy is basically full-body shots. Then waist up, then portraits. Deal with it. And even if it isn't, I can always just chop that image right in half to make it a portrait. Classical characters get the exception because of just that. They are classical, older and so their appearances are more of a tribute. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 23:18, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * It should be a TPM publicity shot. We shouldnt make these silly exceptions just for classic characters. I thought we were looking at the saga as a whole, but it is clear to me that that is not the case. .  .  .  .  23:21, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Nope. It's also a combination of the lack of actual good shots from ROTJ and that a character like Han doesn't change in his appearance nor costume. And no, it shouldn't be a TPM shot. Latest appearance. Deal with it or get the hell out of here. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 23:50, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Stop overreacting just because we're not using a portrait of Haako from Episode I. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:51, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Despite the blatant lack of common sense here, I'll drop this. But just this. .  .  .  .  03:10, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * or get the hell out of here? Can we at least be civil? Elipsis is perfectly within his rights to question a policy. Cull Tremayne 06:08, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm. My perceptions of the general attitude of Wookiepedians just shifted a bit. Thanks, Tremayne. .  .  .  .  07:32, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Just thought I'd note that there isn't an official policy on this, anyway, and many editors prefer portrait shots. See Wedge Antilles or Padme Amidala.  - breathesgelatin Talk 14:19, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Still, the current image is the better one. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:31, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah, that's purely subjective, a term which I think you need to look up, Grand Admiral. .  .  .  .  23:32, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * And what is your problem? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:04, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * My problem? I'm not the one saying "This is better. It will not be changed. It will stay. I am 110% all of the time and I am never wrong." .  .  .  .  02:10, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * No, that's what I say. So far, only you've have had a problem with the image. So, it's 2 v 1. ROTS version wins. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 03:09, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, we shall have to wait until that little vote in the Senate goes down...how is it now? 7 to 2? .  .  .  .  04:45, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Except it's not a "Rune Haako Episode I image: 7" to a "Rune Haako Episode III image: 2". Just because that vote goes your way does not mean this picture changes. In fact, the majority for the relative discussion on Haako's main image is for the current picture. And FYI, Thefourdotelipsis, watch yourself. I know damn well that I'm not always correct. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:15, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Look, Jack, you should wait until you're an admin before you start making idle threats. .  .  .  .  02:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * He didn't make any threat. Nothing like "If you don't stop...blah blah blah". -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 03:21, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * watch yourself is a threat where I come from. .  .  .  .  03:34, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * He is giving you advice. Mistep and you'll find yourself under fire from all sides, admins or not. Can't say that I haven't been in those positions. You're getting pretty cocky just because your proposal is going through. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 03:36, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * And you're getting defensive because it's going through. I understand that Nebulax aspires to be an admin, and all power to him, but that doesn't mean he has the right to act like one. His narrow-minded, singular, and dogmatic point of view on subjects such as these don't lend much to progression. .  .  .  .  03:40, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, I haven't said a word about it itself. I'm just saying your getting cocky. Until Nebulax says "I will ban you" or something similiar (like the admins are blah, blah, blah. I deserve to be admin, blah, blah) then I think it's moot point if he wants to be admin or not. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 03:47, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, flat out saying "No" and not giving a viable reason is pretty damn arrogant. And you can think of me what you like, I'm sure the feeling is more than mutual. .  .  .  .  03:49, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * You want a reason? Here it is: there aren't any other good images. Most of us prefer to use latest appearance, promotional, full sized images. This is the only good quality image of Haako available at the moment. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 03:56, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I know that, I can't for the life of me find a good promo image of Haako from TPM...that doesn't mean you stop trying .  .  .  .  05:03, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Those are the images I found, or made myself. I don't know if any of them, with a little manipulation, could be used - I don't have the appropriate software, but I'm sure someone here does. . .  .  .  05:14, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * If any, I'd say number four. But honestly, it's not as good as the current main image. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:17, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah. I definitly like the current one better. Those aren't the greatest quality. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 18:16, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Although I wouldn't mind have image number four in the article. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:38, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * If I was going to put it in the article, I'd put it in the infobox - it's a little bit closer, it shows us his face a little better (which is encyclopedic), and plonk the ROTS photo down in the Traits/Personality section .  .  .  .  23:07, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * If we cannot determine what should be an infobox image by it's place in time, then we will determine it by quality and the current one is of better quality. If they were relativly the same quality then I'd say look at the perspective and the closeness of the image but they aren't. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 23:09, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed. And for this specific issue, the majority says current image. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 01:11, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Aw, look at that! What's wrong with that? .  .  .  .  07:10, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I prefer Image:Rune-haako.jpg. Adamwankenobi 07:58, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I like that one best too, but the quality of the image is too low. .  .  .  .  08:06, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Now, let me just say that if an Episode I image is decided to be used, please make it image number four. It shows more of Haako and has the best quality out of those eight. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 13:25, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, I knew you were going to revert it, but I kinda had my hopes up that you would like it...wishful thinking. I'm really loving #4 at the moment, I reckon it looks fantastique in the infobox. .  .  .  .  01:33, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * If you knew I was going to revert it, why did you bother switching them? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 14:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Because. I. Kind. Of. Had. My. Hopes. Up. That. You. Would. Take. To. It...UNDERSTAND?!? .  .  .  .  23:22, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * You seriously need to calm down. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:23, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * And YOU need to start reading the above post a little better. .  .  .  .  23:27, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thefourdotelipsis, stop. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:28, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Request noted. If civility wasn't a must on this Wiki... .  .  .  .  23:35, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, just knock it off. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:40, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * You've got a huge ego problem, Jack. I suggest you tame it. .  .  .  .  23:44, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * And I suggest you stop it before you make an actual personal attack against me. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:46, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Personal attack? Why, no Jack, I wouldn't dream of challenging...you. .  .  .  .  23:47, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Remember what I said about getting cocky and arrogant? Your pretty damn close to making a personal attack so I suggest you calm down before you say something you regret (or not. I'm not sure how much you really care.) -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 00:23, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thefourdotelipsis, keep this stuff off of Wookieepedia. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:23, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * To change the subject, I've been thinking about the images. Image number four really isn't that bad, and it does show Haako better. I'm torn between the two now. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:39, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * If you can hold it in for a week then I can probably scrounge up a ROTS version. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 00:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:44, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Bleh, we don't need a ROTS version, what's wrong with the TPM #4? .  .  .  .  00:52, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Besides being of worse quality then the current one or the one I have plans for? Nothing. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 00:53, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * We don't need a top notch quality image if it's only going in the infobox, and Image #4 looks perfect in the infobox. .  .  .  .  01:00, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Quality matters over everything. It's more "encloypedic" if the image is clean and crisp. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 01:44, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 4 is..."clean and crisp" enough. .  .  .  .  04:39, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Let Redemption get an image before we make any final decisions. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:29, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Title
Should Haako be refered to as Settlement Officer Rune Haako in the first line, or Lieutenant Rune Haako, or do neither of those qualify for that usage? . .  .  .  05:03, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * We tend not to use titles with the bolded name. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:08, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm. What about Princess Leia Organa Solo of Alderaan (not trying to question you, just wondering why that is.) .  .  .  .  11:12, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, the majority of the articles doesn't use stuff like that. It's best to follow that majority. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:15, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok. Maybe I'll suggest a change in policy later...I've got enough problems at the minute .  .  .  .  12:08, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Please don't. Having no title with the bolded name is much better. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:26, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey, feel free to object, but don't tell me what to do. .  .  .  .  22:30, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I didn't tell you want to do. I suggested that you wouldn't do that. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:46, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Suggestion noted, not heeded. .  .  .  .  00:39, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * And could you provide a link to this suggestion for a change of policy? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:06, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Huh? No, I said I hadn't done it yet. .  .  .  .  01:49, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Limp?
What's the source for him having a limp? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 00:52, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Sounds suspicious. I didn't notice him having limp in the films.-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 01:58, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I did. He's also a lot more hunched than other Neimoidians. It's probably most apparent in that shot in TPM where the camera is panning across the bridge, and he's asking "Have you ever encountered a Jedi Knight before sir?" Looked like a limp to me, though I could be wrong...God forbid. ;) .  .  .  .  04:09, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I didn't notice a limp or a hunchedback. Even if he had a limp or a hunchedback in TPM, they seem to have disappeared by RotS. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 12:07, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The somewhat obese Haako in in AOTC didn't seem to have a limp. I need to get TPM on DVD. It would be so much easier than using my dying VCR and fast forwarding to the part I want to watch.-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 19:05, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I watched it, and I didn't see a limp. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:28, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It seems that we must also differentiate on what we see in identical film prints, too. ;) When we get a third opinion, that says "no limp", I'll remove it. .  .  .  .  21:51, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Why isn't two enough, Thefourdot? I see no reason why a third person saying "no limp" is needed. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:52, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Because it's one persons word against anothers. .  .  .  .  01:34, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * To me, it would make more sense to remove it, and add it back in when we get a third opinion, that says there is a limp.-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 02:58, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, of course. .  .  .  .  03:39, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * "Because it's one persons word against anothers". That's enough reason to remove it in the first place. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 12:22, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I think he has a bit of a limp, too. It's also noticeable later on in Theed. Rune seems to be having some difficulty navigating the grand staircase in the palace. Considering the ease with which Nute gets down the stairs, I doubt it's Rune's robe tripping him up. He's clearly having trouble walking. - Kooshmeister
 * I see what you mean on the staircase, but I don't see any other points where he has trouble walking. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 12:24, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Haako a Senator?
Aren't those emblems on his clothes in AOTC senatorial? They're identical to the ones on Lott Dod's in TPM.
 * Which is why it probably isn't Haako. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 02:06, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I should ask Chee that.--Rune Haako 02:09, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Perhaps phrased like this: "Is Haako really in Episode II? Because no one thinks it's him". Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 02:12, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
 * LOL, that'd probably make him mad.--Rune Haako 02:15, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Here's what I asked, "If the Neimoidian seen with Nute Gunray in AOTC is Rune Haako then why are there senatorial emblems on his clothes like Lott Dod had on his in TPM, is Haako a Senator?"--Rune Haako 02:24, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Hopefully Chee will decided that it wasn't Haako. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 14:42, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
 * He didn't either bother to answer it.--Rune Haako 18:13, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * We give him a chance to fix a mistake, but he doesn't take it. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 21:36, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * He's actually been very unresponsive of late. .  .  .  .  23:58, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Haako Vs Gilramus
For one thing its haako,it even said it on his bio-User:troyb,1 febuary 2007
 * We already know Haako was on Geonosis. Please don't start topics like this. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 21:51, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

well is their any thing else to discuss?—User:troyb
 * No. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 01:28, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

no?come on at least we could talk about how much Haako is better then gunray— User:troyb
 * No. This isn't a forum where people discuss their opinions. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 20:27, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

well we have to talk about something,like for instance why when we see haako in the confrence room hes lying back on the wall,but in th pic on the top hes on the floor?—User:troyb
 * Not to be rude, but we don't have to talk about anything. At least not something different in this topic. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 20:30, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

O.K. fine—User:troyb
 * If you want to talk about that, create another topic header. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 00:25, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

you know what never mind.—User:troyb
 * &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 00:33, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

sorry,Im having a bad day,once you read this and make a comment I will get rid of this,Ill be better tommorow—User:troyb
 * If you're having a bad day, just don't post for a while and settle down. Works for me. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 00:44, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I will try that thanks,tommorow i'll get rid of it—User:troyb
 * No problem. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 00:49, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Too many references.
Currently, the article is filled with references, making the entire article look horrible. I suggest we remove all of the references now, minus one or two important ones. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 14:48, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Most articles are going to end up like this soon. It's policy now and I can't see why this article should be an exception. Green Tentacle (Talk) 14:56, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * So we're going to add a bunch of distracting numbers into articles? I guess I'd better create another Wookieepedia for those who find it hard to read the articles with all those little numbers. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 15:01, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * If you do, bear in mind our Wookieepedia will look more reliable and be more easily verifiable. Detailed sourcing is the way of the future. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 16:01, 11 February 2007 (UTC)