Talk:Dooku/Legends

See also Talk:Dooku/Archive.

The Death of Tyranus
When Dooku died, Obi-Wan was knocked out. Palpatine told Anakin to kill Dooku, but Anakin said it's not the Jedi way, he must had learned that from Obi-Wan, he would tell Anakin to let him live and to capture him. So if Obi-Wan was still awake, would Dooku survive?

If so, Dooku is the one who knocked him out, does that mean he's responsible for his own death? Double D 19:21, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * In a roundabout sort of way, yes. I agree that Anakin would probably not have killed Tyranus if Obi-Wan had been conscious. Hindsight is 20/20. Actually, he may have died anyway. A situation where he could be captured may never have arisen, and he may have been killed in the fight if that was the only way to subdue him. Also, he would have gone down easier if both Jedi had remained in the fight. – Aidje talk 20:43, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)


 * i don't agree with that last part about him going down easier, Anakin tapped into his rage through Obi Wan being hurt, and palpetine surely wouldnt of egged Anakin on if Obi Wan was concious.. Talk
 * No, Anakin was still angry at him for what he did at Geonosis; Anakin would have tapped into his rage even if Kenobi wasn't knocked out. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:46, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The novel has explained it (despite the fact that Palpy triggered the tap in novel while Dooku triggered it in movie), Anakin knew that he could not hold anything back, that 2 of his best frds were in mortal danger now, and his own orothodox Jedi power could never match a Sith Lord, etc blah blah blah. Dooku/Palpy/Ben might more or less contribute to his decision, but like what Star Wars always wanna express, the decision was Anakin's. Darth Kevinmhk 02:32, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Also, Palpatine might have given some of his power to Anakin for a while so he could fight Dooku. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:25, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I doubt that, the last thing Palpatine would try was leaking his identity prematurly. Darth Kevinmhk 13:21, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
 * How would Anakin know, though? Anakin was focused on defeating Dooku, and his rage could have blocked his knowledge of Palpatine giving him more power. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:59, 19 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I over heard the conversation and would like to know if obi wan was theyre when anakin was about to kill count dooku and obi wan forbittid anakin to kill him and just arest him and deal with him on coroscant, what would be palpatines reactions? kenobi317 austen landaas
 * i don't understand what you mean really, but i think if you mean if Obi stopped Anakin then Palps would of either taunted Anakin into killing him anyway or had Dooku executed or gotten rid of ;P anyway this isn't the kind of discussion for a talk page Jedi Dude 14:35, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

But that still has something to do with dooku's death right. Well you still awnsered my question anyway, thanks! it would be freaky for palpatine to threat anakin he would kill him when obi wan is standing right beside him.


 * Well, put into your minds an important detail .... the SHIP! When that exploded how on earth could they arrest Dooky - boo and save their own butts at the same time? His hands were cut off so he had no way to get out if the ship tipped. he would have died anyway. - case closed. --Jabbathehuttgartogg 09:27, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

I diddnt ask that but whatever.

The mistakes of Dooku
Dooku made 2 big mistakes on Genosis: One, he didn't just kill our favorite trio with his lightsaber, ending the greatest warriors of the Republic, and 2, When Yoda was holding the crane, he could of killed Yoda with his lightsaber, killing the 4 reatest Jedi, Yoda, Anakin and Obi-Wan would be dead, and Luke never born. Talk about a moron!!!

Yes. I wondered about that for a long time as well. Another mistake of his was force-pushing Anakin back after slicing off his arm. During that time, he could've completely decapitated Anakin, preventing Anakin from killing him later aboard Invisible Hand. He DID look sorry for what he had done, though. Maybe Palpatine had already told him to leave Anakin alive. Who knows?-Lord Dooku 04:10, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Another mistake or it he coul have just been plain dumb was that he told obi wanWhat if i told you that the republic was now in the hands of a sith lord called darth sidious. and so on he continues to reaveal stuff.
 * It was Sidious who told Dooku to reveal the stuff to confuse the Jedi with the truth, as revealed in Labyrinth of Evil. Darth Kevinmhk 06:04, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry but thats not really all that possible, first all the events of the phantom meanace and now he reveals sidious, now thats just plain dumb, besides dooku wanted obi wan to join him.
 * Anon, how is that "not really all that possible"? Plus, he only said what he said to deceive Obi-Wan and make it seem like he was on Obi-Wan's side. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:05, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Man... what a bunch of fucking assholes.

You are not a sith
I would liek to see that quote when he talked to Asajj in the cartoon. It goes something like "You are not sith. You may fight like a sith. You may wear the trappings of a sith. But these things can be immitated however. The Sith lack one thing. Fear. And I seance alot of fear within you."

Sorry if it is in thier but I want to see it. Its a fan favorite. ~Darth Wickan


 * but where would that go, maybe on Asaji's article but not here Jedi Dude 15:42, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

In mu opinion I dont think we need the "he is a politac idealist" quote


 * well, it does reflect his chracter so it stays, this isn't about opinsions anyway? Sign your name as well please. Jedi Dude 22:37, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Battlemaster?

 * For all intent and purposes, which source exactly states Dooku as Battlemaster? And which source state he was "head lightsaber combat instructor and principal for advanced saber combat" ? Even if he was the head, I fail to see head lightsaber combat instructor automatically equals to Battlemaster. Darth Kevinmhk 17:48, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Umm...the head lightsaber combat instructor is the Battlemaster. If you want to find out who originally stated this, ask around or try to find this quote in a publication like Star Wars Insider or something. I just noticed this today, so I have no idea how long this has been stated. Xepeyon 19:51, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The Battlemaster article says that a battlemaster should be proficient in all lightsaber forms. Dooku obviously knew some Shii-Cho, as every Padawan does, mastered Makashi on a high degree, but what about practicing other styles? I know from the EpIII novel that he knew other forms, but it cannot be know how well he could have used them in practice. - TopAce 19:54, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Consider how Dooku hates Ataru and Jar'Kai, and had no experience with Form VII, I very doubt he knew "all" forms. In addition, not even Cin knew Form VII, so why he was Battlemaster? Darth Kevinmhk 00:11, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Drallig still practiced more lightsaber forms than Dooku. It's a whole different fish in the keetle that Dooku could have beaten him with his Makashi, but still... - TopAce 10:24, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Not to mention that Dooku surely began his Makashi training after becoming a Sith, being aware that he would have to fight Jedis.Petiflo 10:29, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't want to argue with you, but as far as I remember, the article makes it pretty clear that Dooku was a master of Makashi even before he became a Sith. - TopAce 11:06, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes Dooku was, he was battlemaster becasue simply he was a master in battle, who needs more? Jedi Dude 11:14, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * We had a lot of Jedi worth the so-called "master in battle" honor. I honestly doubt a Jedi title would grant to someone with such casual reason. I begin to wonder if this was just speculation. No one was able to provide an exact source stating Dooku as Jedi Battlemaster yet. Darth Kevinmhk 15:26, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * This is very conflicting. It states he was head lightsaber instructor, yet he dispised(and possibily avoided training in) the forms Ataru and Jak'Kai. The article states that the Battlemaster had to have a deep knowlege of all styles as well as mastering them to an incredibly high degree. If dooku hated them, how could he teach padawans who wanted to be trained in the forms? Cin Drallig is safe, because I read that a Jedi had to master other styles in order to train in VII, and considering that most didn't he probably didn't have to worry about the matter as often. Dispite Dooku disliking the styles, he may have mastered them, is only to use traits to increase his mastery in Makashi. Makashi was meant for 1-on-1 battle, but he cound use it against multipile opponents. He may have taken traces from other styles to perfect this. If he did indeed master them, that could be one of(or the only) reasons for doing so. PS. Shouldn't this be in the battlemaster section considering other Jedi are being discussed here as well as Dooku? Xepeyon 23:49, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Only Makashi was canonically confirmed as Dooku's known style. While we are safe to assume he knew Shii-Cho from his youngling years, Dooku knowing any other forms are just pure speculation, with no canonical source to back up. By the way, I begin wondering about "head lightsaber instructor" too, can anyone please provide a source for that? Darth Kevinmhk 05:42, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Unless anyone could present solid evidence that Dooku was once a Jedi Battlemaster, otherwise I would remove the succession box and Dooku's name from Battlemaster page. Darth Kevinmhk 04:02, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * To find out for sure, you'd have to find the person that wrote this, it may even be a caption bubble in a comic. No idea for sure, however. Even if you take his name away form the battlemaster's page, the paragraph still states him as such. There is a site that has some online comics about Star Wars, but I haven't read all of them, nor do they have them all. Just saying, maybe someone could find it there.Xepeyon 13:19, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * It has remained unsourced, so I removed it. - Angel Blue 451 02:37, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Hair Color?
Why does it say in the article that his hair is dark brown? I thought his hair color (prior to its turning white) was unconfirmed.
 * In Jango Fett: Open Seasons, it's brown - Kwenn 19:53, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Check the Gallery of Dooku images for pics - Kwenn 19:54, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, it's varied heavily in sources from blondish (Legacy of the Jedi cover, Most Precious Weapon, I think) to black (him and Qui and Yoda and Tyvokka), but dark brown is probably the best bet. Though Chris Lee's hair was black. Yrfeloran 15:54, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Charlemagne's Lighsaber
"The curved hilt of Dooku's lightsaber is similar in design to that of Charlemagne, King of the Franks and founder of the Holy Roman Empire."

The way someone wrote this sentence, it sounds like Charlemagne had a lightsaber.--Darth Oblivion 18:54, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 * lol, fixed - lalala_la

headless pic
Oh, come on, do we really need a picture of his body with the caption "Dooku's headless corpse"? Can't we at least change it to the one where Anakin is standing over the body? That one was much more dignified. - Angel Blue 451 17:17, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Much agree. The article was recently being swarm with low quality or not necessary pic. I revert the headless pic. Darth Kevinmhk 03:06, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
 * There are far too many pics in that section as it is. At least two of them should be removed. QuentinGeorge 03:22, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I propose removing "Dooku in pain after his wrists being cut" and "Dooku slash off Ani's arm". Darth Kevinmhk 03:24, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I have an idea, I'll seperate it. Look at it, see if you like it, if you don't revert it. But please don't cut any pic. ....... yet. --Jabbathehuttgartogg [[Image:Desilijic Clan (Jabba’s Tattoo) .jpg|30px]] [[Image:Desilijic Clan (Jabba’s Tattoo) .jpg|30px]] 08:41, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Nope. Still too many images. QuentinGeorge 09:11, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Hair color
Currently, the artcle says Dooku's hair color was "white." As far as I have seen "white" used for hair colors, "white" means that you dyed it white. It should be gray, because it became "white" because of old age, unless there's a source that dictates Dooku dyed his hair. - TopAce 09:47, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
 * what is the point of this article, no one responds to it, and no one cares, JUST DELETE THIS WASTE OF SPACE! PLEASE CAN I JUST DELETE IT?

What wouldve happened if Dooku versed Sidious in saber combat?

 * Well, in my opinion, Sidious is the master. He knows what buttons to push and where he will succeed. I believe Sidious wouldve bested Dooku in combat because he uses two saber styles that make him "an impossible opponent to overcome" according to wikipedia. So Sids wouldve won. And Dooku knew that, thats he never challenged his master.
 * Hey, sorry to say anon but this is no place for this kind of discussion, try a discussion board however im sure your get something sparked off...'cough'Sidious'cough' Jedi Dude 17:05, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Jedi Dude is faster than me! Lol! Darth Kevinmhk 17:05, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
 * WOW, how could ANYONE, possibly think that Sids would win, that old, wrinkly grey thing, he would get told whats what in TWO seconds! Dooku never challenged him because there would be no point in the battle of two seconds, man how stupid, sidious is nothing, and compared to Dooku, I dont even think Dooku would even need to look to defeat him, he'd just swing ounce and he would die. Man that rediculouse, have any of you even read Dookus file, "...one of the greatest...in lightsaber training" damn your stupid, all of you.
 * Anon, stop with the name-calling. -  Angel Blue 451 (Holonet)[[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] 02:32, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 * One of the greatest, not the greatest.--Darth OblivionComlink[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 02:38, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Ummm he definately is ONE of the GREATEST ever, read the quotes from Yoda, read his file before you all randomly choose to falsely say he is not!
 * Pointless discussion, keep opinions off these pages please Jedi Dude 17:15, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 * That's exactly what I just said, anon.--Darth OblivionComlink[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 17:24, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 * How is this a "pointless" discussion, and who the hell is Anon, Im not Anon damn it. This is obvious that Dooku would beat Sideous, easy, 1,2,3. Then it would be over and Sideous would die.

Dooku should have easily defeated Anakin and Obi-Wan
Dooku easily should have defeated Anakin and Obi-Wan, there is no explanation to how in the world little crying girl, little bitch, pissy, Anakin and Obi-Wan could have defeated Dooku with all his skill and power. As Yoda said Dooku was "...the greatest student..." and he also was the greatest duelist in the order, and had a high degree of mastery of the force. Anakin has nothing, he is just an angry 20 year old with no physical strength at all. Not to meantion how Dooku in the movie bested Obi-Wan but could not deafeat the ohhh soo "POWERFUL" Anakin, but then Obi-Wan beats Anakin even though he could not defeat Dooku and Anakin could.
 * Do I need to inform the administrators, anon? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:52, 29 September 2006 (UTC)


 * ABOUT WHAT? A DISCUSSION? Cant you just leave a remark on what you think, like a human please, its a discussion, just talk, man. say what you want, what is wrong, its a discussion, cant you say ANYTHING THAT IS FUN TO TALK ABOUT? what can I say, its a good topic, just use it.
 * This is not a forum. Now, since you kept it up, action will probably be taken. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 01:00, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah I agree, Dooku would have owned them all, Yoda too, he sould have been easily defeated, and I also agree whith this discussion, its a good one unlike the rest of these.