Forum:CT Archive/Sig policy revisited

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Now that we have a signature policy (Signature policy), I think that we need to do a little more work on it. Over at Forum:User sig policy, several possible changes have been discussed and I am going to put each amendment up for a vote. Feel free to add additional options.– Sentry  Talk 05:17, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Colors
Apart from the default hyperlink text color, how many additional colors should we allow?– Sentry  Talk 05:17, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

1 color (current policy)

 * 1)  Sentry  Talk 05:17, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) The sig isn't artwork, it's a signature. How many people need two (or more) pens to sign their checks at home? jSarek 11:45, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  StarNeptune Talk to me! 12:31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 15:33, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) —Xwing328 (Talk) 21:29, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

2 colors

 * 1) I'm not sure if I would change it back to my old sig, but I would at least like the option to. -- Yoshi  626 [[Image:Yoshiegg.jpg|20px]] 05:21, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Ditto. I'm not sure if I'd use it (look at my sig) but it's always nice to have the option. Commander Jorrel Fraajic [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Communications Relay 05:25, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) I don't think it's very disruptive to have 2 colors, as long as the wikicode isn't too messed up. \/  ladius  |\/|agnum [[Image:dasymbol.gif|20px]] 15:27, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) I think some people enjoy having a Technicolor Dream-sig. Sir You Know My Name, N.K.-S.R.T. 18:43, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) I actually found it useful to find my own name in long discussions I hadn't visited in a while. And two colors to be decorative is a totally different thing than changing every letter of your name. Wildyoda 19:05, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Black's not a colour, but I fear for my vanity sig. .  .  .  .  22:56, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Comments
Question: Does the "1 color policy" include the standard link color (like for R2-D2) or is it one basic color for everything (like my sig)? Jorrel Fraajic  Comlink 21:36, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Length
Should we limit the length of signatures?– Sentry  Talk 05:17, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Limit to 100 characters

 * 1) Definately limit. And, although somewhat hard to enforce, I'd gladly lead the charge. Commander Jorrel Fraajic [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Communications Relay 05:26, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) DEFINITELY limit. The main problem with sigs isn't that they're obnoxious in their final form, but they make it a nightmare to read talkpages with sigs whos code is longer than most of the comments. Not to say that the final forms of the more obnoxious ones AREN'T an annoyance.  jSarek 11:45, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) My idea in the first place, not to brag. \/  ladius  |\/|agnum [[Image:dasymbol.gif|20px]] 15:27, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) It's all right; you can brag if you want to. Sir You Know My Name, N.K.-S.R.T. 18:49, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) I think this is really the main thing that we HAVE a signature policy for, keeping things manageable. And I don't think it really WILL be that hard to enforce now that we HAVE a policy, seeing as we'll start to notice the more obnoxious/rule-bending sigs now. Wildyoda 19:05, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Comments
Note that this will be somewhat difficult to enforce.– Sentry  Talk 05:17, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Does this mean 100 coded characters (such as  ) or 100 visible characters? My current sig uses 121 characters, and it is very plain, so I presume you mean what's actually visible.  —Xwing328 (Talk) 21:28, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Links
What links should we allow in the signature?– Sentry  Talk 05:17, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Talk page (current policy)

 * 1)  Sentry  Talk 05:17, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Even this might be a bit much, but I'm willing to go with it since it already passed muster in the first vote. jSarek 11:45, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Having a link to your talk page is ok, but I feel having a link to your contribs is pushing it.  StarNeptune Talk to me! 12:31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Talk page & contributions

 * 1)  Yoshi  626 [[Image:Yoshiegg.jpg|20px]] 05:51, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) I don't see what's wrong with letting someone see what you've been doing. \/  ladius  |\/|agnum [[Image:dasymbol.gif|20px]] 15:28, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Neither do I. Sir You Know My Name, N.K.-S.R.T. 18:45, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) The unsigned template contains a contribs link. Obviously somebody else thought it was useful before, and that's an officially sanctioned utility template. Wildyoda 19:05, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

One relevant link

 * 1) Talk page, or contributions link, or user page on other wiki, or any one other relevant link, in addition to the user page link. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 15:30, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Superscript and subscript
Should we disallow nested superscript and subscript tags like this ?– Sentry  Talk 05:22, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Disallow nested and   tags

 * 1)  Sentry  Talk 05:22, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Messing up the formatting to have a cuter signature is not a good idea. jSarek 11:45, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) YES!!  StarNeptune Talk to me! 12:31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 15:28, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Something I agree with. \/  ladius  |\/|agnum [[Image:dasymbol.gif|20px]] 15:29, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Commander Jorrel Fraajic [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Communications Relay 16:29, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yea, verily. Sir You Know My Name, N.K.-S.R.T. 18:46, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Death to nesting. Wildyoda 19:05, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) —Xwing328 (Talk) 21:26, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Comments
Does "nested" mean dual and or does it include with sigs like mine? Commander Jorrel Fraajic Communications Relay 05:28, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Nested means that you have one embedded within the other. Your sig is fine. The reason why I think they should be outlawed is that they really screw up the page formatting.– 05:41, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * That's what I thought that was. Commander Jorrel Fraajic [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Communications Relay 16:29, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Heh, Whistler voted ;) Jorrel Fraajic  Comlink 21:27, 14 January 2007 (UTC)