User talk:Riffsyphon1024/Archive10

Need someone to open article
Hi, I and others need to have the Utapau article reopened. It was locked over a month ago when someone changed parts of the text to include fanon and I need to post a quote from an interview in the bts section clearing up the relevant section. Tried to ask Jaymach, who locked it, but he hasn't responded. Thanks in advance. :) VT-16 00:40, 2 March 2007 (UTC) yo why did you take that alternate ending thing off the page of the rakata. it wasn't on the page and it is critical.
 * It has been done. --  Riffsyphon  1024 05:14, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I've posted the clarification and necessary quote in the bts section. If anyone doubts its canonicity, they can contact either Curtis Saxton or Lucy Wilson. VT-16 12:14, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Message

 * Check your fbk. I sent you a lengthy message. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 03:39, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

What's this...
Hey Riff! What's this about the "Star Wars Galactic Atlas"? Has someone official hinted about it or something? I haven't heard anything and was just curious... Thanks. --Azizlight 06:37, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh its just based on a hunch. Nothing official. You know, like The New Essential Guide to Planets and Moons. --  Riffsyphon  1024 06:38, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok cool :-) --Azizlight 06:40, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

IRC
Sorry, I was away for a bit. What do you need? --Imp 11:11, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It wasn't anything important. :) --  Riffsyphon  1024 04:13, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

WookieeProject Galaxy Maps
I thought you might be interested in checking this out: WookieeProject Galaxy Maps ~ Jaywin
 * Yes, I thought of the idea of a WookieeProject from the Senate Hall discussion. When I brought up the idea, some people sounded like it might be a good idea. So I just quickly made a rough outline of what it might look like. If people are interested, and they think it might be a useful way to enhance the map aspects of Wookieepedia, then people can develop a WookieProject around the issue. If not, then the page can simply be deleted. Like I said...just an idea! Have a good one, and thanks for your response. : ) ~ Jaywin

Redirects
This is me fighting "Jojo was a Muun" syndrome. These aren't real individuals, just example names taken from the Ultimate Alien Anthology. Enochf 08:38, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

CIV

 * Go look at our page for that. 8) Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 03:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Seeking Interview with Wookieepedia creators.
Hi Riffsyphon. This is copied from my talk page. Christine asked me in our email correspondence to forward this to you and Chad, as you two are the "creators." —Xwing328 (Talk) 02:47, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello, My name is Christine, I am a researcher and webmaster for I-SCI-FI, www.i-sci-fi.com We are a online talk show, that covers all areas of science fiction and fantasy. We would like to interview the creators of Wookieepedia. The interview can be done live on Thursdays, in the evening or can be recorded at your convience. Our show is in podcast format, if you are interested in listening to past shows: http://www.iscifi.tv/podcast  I would recommend episode 297 - Charles Ross - the one man Star Wars show. Please contact me at chris@iscifi.tv if you are interested or know of someone else that would be.

Christine C.R.S. Webmaster & Research I-SCI-FI
 * So I assume from one of the podcasts that I can call in to the studio number where the speaker is to interview me? As for being available on Thursdays, that will be hard to pull off seeing how I will be on campus from 9 am to 9 pm or later CDT for classes, but its possible I could use another landline there, and then again we could always do this on a different day. --  Riffsyphon  1024 06:32, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'd guess you just call in, but you'd probably have to talk to her about those types of details if you do it. 16:51, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

bad person
Hi, I saw on the fourm page that User:Redemption used a curse word. I asked him nicely to please do not say curse words on relegious pages. I told him that he could post them anywhere else, but not on a relegious page. That is un called for. He then cussed me out. see User talk:Redemption. I consider that a personal attack and would like you to bring justice to it. Maybe punishing him? Thats just an idea. Thank you so much, and may the force be with you! Quinlanfan 23:28, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * What "religious page"? -- http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/e/e5/ATATatarismall.png 23:32, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

It was not a relegious page, it was a section on a forum about relegion. See: Forum:CT Archive/Possible amendments to user page policy and WP:NOT Thanks, Quinlanfan 23:42, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * He won't get punished for that. First of all, that's almost 2 months ago. Second, there is no rule against using curse words on pages about religion. -- http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/e/e5/ATATatarismall.png 23:46, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

He cussed me out today. he called me names and THAT IS a personal attack. Quinlanfan 00:39, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

P.S. your sig is messed up. Just thought I would let you know. I cant tell who you are. Quinlanfan 00:39, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * You think "ass" is a bad word?? And that's Imperialles replying to you Quin. --  Riffsyphon  1024 03:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

If he ment donkey, that is okay, but he ment it as a slang word for Butt. I just can't abide those curse words, descusting little things. Quinlanfan 16:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, that's good for you. But keep in mind that we won't punish anyone for something as trivial as this. -- http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/e/e5/ATATatarismall.png 16:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Quinlan, I don't give a rat's ass about this incredably minor issue. In fact there is no issue. This discussion is over. --  Riffsyphon  1024 18:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

agreed! Quinlanfan 16:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Addicted-template.jpg
Just wanted to let you know, that I reuploaded Image:Addicted-template.jpg as Image:Addicted-template.png and put the JPG version as IFD, so you'll need to change it on your main user page. - JMAS 00:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * No need, I fixed it. -- http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/e/e5/ATATatarismall.png 00:08, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well... thanks. --  Riffsyphon  1024 03:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Big Galaxy
Why, thank you! :) Adamwankenobi 04:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

response
Yes, that would be me cGt 2099 05:10, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Friend...
Hello, single I want to request excuses if something has caused malaise to you… Starkiller1996

IRC

 * Stop by for a minute, would you? Talk pages take too long! Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 04:35, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

discussion
This question is for Riffsyphon: Are we allowed to ask questions about a character on that character's discussion page? It is called a discussion page. Asking questions is discussion. Please let me know the answer. Thanks,
 * Tell me what "Is there any info as to what Aayla and Quinlan were doing on tatooine in Episode I?" means and I'll give you an answer. --  Riffsyphon  1024 04:39, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

RE:Userbox Proposals
Stop, immediately. I have my freedom of proposing userboxes, and you cannot take that away, so I will continue to propose them. - Patricknoddy The Jedi Council 11:20, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

VANDAL!!!
Someone has deleted my two uploaded pictures and my two sub pages! I was told that I could only have Two of each. I did. I believe that it was User:JMAS. I worked REALLY hard on those pages and I would like them back. This vandal must be punished! Thanks, Quinlanfan 20:11, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay but I was just stating facts. The Bible was one of the biggest History books in the world. Quin
 * I don't care whether it is fact or fiction or written by aliens. Religion does not need to become a part of the conversation in talk pages. Nuff said. --  Riffsyphon  1024 18:32, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * okay

Ooines and Aans
"StarNeptune and I have speculated that maybe there is a link, maybe an ancient empire that ruled the Rim, and another in the Core, each warring factions of each other, marking their territory with these suffixes."

You mean like the Infinite Empire?  Sarendipity  Talk 20:08, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Never really thought about the Rakata, but it's an interesting idea. I still theorize there was an Empire pre-Rakata that founded the name of Tatooine and the other planets, but of course its just fanon. :) --  Riffsyphon  1024 20:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I think the Rakata would make sense, since I seem to recall that many of the worlds were primitive prior to their arrival. On the other hand, since it's implied that the sandpeople were the ancestors of all humans, perhaps Tatooine was the first planet named this way and then as they populated other planets, the sandpeople/humans renamed other worlds after it. Or something. I have too much time on my hands.  Sarendipity  Talk [[Image:Atrissig.jpg|20px]] 04:13, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * We all do if we contribute to Wookieepedia. :P --  Riffsyphon  1024 04:17, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Too true.  Sarendipity  Talk [[Image:Atrissig.jpg|20px]] 04:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Quin and Aayla
What I ment was, what was Aayla and Quinlan undercover mission during episode 1? In the graphic novel, Twilight it talks about the tatooine mission. I think that was part of the same mission that they got their memory wiped. I want to know what that mission is. Do you know the answer? does anyone else? thanks, Quin
 * I don't even know what you're talking about. Ask this in the Knowledge Bank. --  Riffsyphon  1024 17:02, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

C4
Hey Riffsyphon1024, Ozzel and I decided to get this ball rolling, since we really don't have too much time to plan. Here is a log of the meeting the two of us had - C4_meeting_with_Ozzel.pdf. I know we don't have the final word, we just wanted to get going like I said.

Proposal

 * Most of the following assumes we receive $1,000 from Wikia for sponsorship:
 * 1) A sign for the table
 * 2) *This would include a hi-resolution version of the Wookieepedia logo, The Completely Unofficial Star Wars Encyclopedia, Wikia, and any other sponsors that we might (and should) obtain.
 * 3) A computer with internet hookup and all necessary power cords, etc.
 * 4) *This would be our major expense. Hopefully we could get one donated solely for the purpose of allowing attendees to browse our site. I know most of us do not want to donate our personal computers for this use. This would also most likely be used during the trivia contests detailed below.
 * 5) Pamphlets
 * 6) *A tri-fold 8 1/2" x 11" professionally-printed pamphlet with an "About Us", one of our best (hopefully flawless) articles, any interesting trivia, a tribute to Wikia, and anything else we feel like including for recruitment purposes, etc. Ozzel is going to try to start a design for this.
 * 7) Trivia contest
 * 8) *I'm going to write up some additional proposals for these most likely, but the basic idea was to either 1) have contestants try to stump Wookieepedians, 2) have a "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire"-like setup where a contestant tests their knowledge against pre-made questions of ours, or 3) a combination of the two, where the best of people who participate the first days in option 1 of this proposal are selected and contacted to come back for the final event of option 2. Winners of whichever we do would most likely receive a t-shirt.
 * 9) T-shirts
 * 10) *We need to finalize a design and contact Lucasfilm, like we already talked about. The shirt should probably include the Wikia logo on the back or sleeve, along with any other sponsors we may receive. I think our best bet would be to only give these out to workers, winners of the trivia contests, and of course any celebrities who might wander by :). We could sell the others at cost to any other people, but we definitely don't want to make a profit on this unless we get the OK from Mary Franklin.
 * 11) Sound system
 * 12) *I'm not so sure on this point. We could loop through our few spoken articles and Thefourdotelipsis' Wookiee-Casts.
 * 13) Other concerns: I presume the physical table is provided, along with chairs? Internet connection? Electrical connections? Sign-up list?

Hope you enjoyed reading all that :P Please let me know what you think/decide. 04:56, 2 April 2007 (UTC) Very cool design.
 * Good that you guys hit on all of these major points. My commentary below:
 * 1) Someone with hi-res photo imaging and printing can do this, or if was performed professionally. What size of sign are we talking? Posterboard? Banner?
 * 2) Computer and power hookups. I don't have specifics for that at the moment, but check the Gencon page and I believe one of the PDFs discusses resources for the tables. Preferably a laptop for space saving and faster deconstruction speed?
 * 3) About Us pamphlet sounds good.
 * 4) Trivia contest. If like Who Wants to Be a Wookieepedian?, questioning alone would be purely in their knowledge, and would lifelines allow searching for the subject within 30 seconds?
 * 5) We still have Design a shirt where any ideas are good. This is important if we want representation. Once again, Mary Franklin must be alerted that they will be given away and whether or not making small profit is to be avoided at all costs, which I'm assuming.
 * 6) Wouldn't the sound system be hooked up the computer?
 * 7) We'll make a timesheet for those sitting in as soon as we get a look at the detailed event schedule. --  Riffsyphon  1024 06:03, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * More stuff: http://www.gencon.com/2007/swciv/events/fanevents.aspx. Our table is free. 10'x10' area with two chairs/table. Additional equipment such as internet/electrical might cost money. Apparently graphics and stuff were supposed to be submitted for approval with our packet, so we might have to send those to Mary F. as well. Also, we are not allowed to sell anything.
 * 1) The sign I was thinking should be a professionally printed banner, if affordable, along with the pamphlets and shirts.
 * 2) Trivia contest - that's what I was thinking, with lifelines, etc.
 * Yes, the sound could go through the computer. I guess it doesn't have to be separate :P 14:50, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Disregarding any "concerns", I'd say the design is still good to use. We do need to get this rolling, don't we? Given time, I might be able to clean it up some more, but time's one thing that is definitely lacking right now, with finals and all. 16:16, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Here's a new one! It has a bit more "creativity" if you ask me. Also, I inverted Chewie to go for a slightly different look. 16:42, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Nice. I see you implimented the design of a TIE Bomber in the text. Would this concept be completely safe to wear during the event? --  Riffsyphon  1024 05:01, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The only possible concern would be the Chewbacca image. I don't know how picky LFL would be about shirts that we are not selling, but I'd imagine it would be OK. If I don't hear from you soon, I could email Mary Franklin and ask her about it. You might be in a slightly better position to do that though. 15:33, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Correction: Emailed her...awaiting reply. 19:01, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * We have approval! 03:33, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Please add this legal line in small type – maybe up Chewie’s shoulder, or somewhere else where it’s clear but inconspicuous.

© 2007 Lucasfilm, Ltd. ® and ™. All rights reserved. Used under authorization.

And send back for a look. Thanks!

Mary Franklin
 * You see. You can get better response from her than I can. I would appreciate if you remain our PR guy since I'm not always available as much.

So now the question is, how many are you going to make, how much each, and how to distribute them., of course if we're all meeting up at C4, distributing them there makes sense. --  Riffsyphon  1024 04:28, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Received final approval this morning. I'll try talking to sannse today to get the money situation moving again. The more we buy, the cheaper per item usually. The first number that popped into my head was 50, which should give us plenty for C4 workers and trivia contests, along with extras to use for future stuff (WotM winner each month?). And yeah, I think distributing at C4 would be easiest, otherwise we'd be mailing all over the world. Now another question: Who has the best/cheapest access to good t-shirt making people? I can get it done, but does anybody else have better resources? 13:28, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I did come across zazzle.com earlier and tested out some ideas, not to mention they already have a page of Star Wars predesigned shirts with some slight editability. You could upload the image there and have them print them, then send them to you, then you have to figure out a way to transport 50 shirts. Yeez. Other than that, I don't have another online source for you. I have used a local screen printer here though, but I don't think I can transport that many if airline travel is going to be complicated already. --  Riffsyphon  1024 19:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I have a local screen printer too, but I have no idea what costs will be. I'm estimating between $10-$15 per shirt, which might be cheaper than the actual cost. And the proposal I submitted to sannse only allows for about 25 at that price. Btw, if need be, we could set up "Donations" to support some minor costs. I just set up a Paypal account yesterday, and am working on getting that verified. 16:08, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * It all depends on complexity and number ordered that drives the price. For a white shirt with mostly brown shouldn't be too much, and like my orders for my club, about 25 should make them from $9 to $12 each, though you may live in an area with overall higher costs. What would be our minor costs? --  Riffsyphon  1024 04:33, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Minor, as in not the shirts, pamphlets, or banner? Internet and electrical connections...we'll have to contact the GenCon people about those. That's all I know of. It would be great if we found a company that could donate a computer/projector... —Xwing328 (Talk) 19:44, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I think someone other than I will bring a laptop, but if you're talking about an additional desktop computer for user access, that might be hard to come by, as well as the projector. --  Riffsyphon  1024 03:46, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was thinking for user access. Bob Vitas said he's going to talk to someone tonight about a projector, so we'll see. Also, see this banner I put together today. Lastly, the pamphlet is coming together, and if you didn't hear, "Stump the Wookiee" got approved for the Fan Stage. —Xwing328 (Talk) 21:00, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The banner looks great. Good news on the Fan Stage. Does that mean that we'll be front of thousands of people? --  Riffsyphon  1024 21:20, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thx! I have no idea. Is the fan stage normally like that? If so, we better make it spectacular :) —Xwing328 (Talk) 22:21, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * All I know about stages is that someone is on it and lots of people are watching it. We may want to look our geeky best if its presented to the masses as an official fan event. --  Riffsyphon  1024 04:56, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Bob Vitas might be stopping by IRC after 7 PM EDT tonight (Tuesday). I let him know that I can't be there, but others will, so he might still come. —Xwing328 (Talk) 16:08, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Might not get home until after 9 PM CDT (10 PM EDT) tonight due to class. --  Riffsyphon  1024 17:05, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

The C4 Table
Hey, Bob Vitas volunteered to set up a master schedule, so that we can keep the table manned at all times. Would you please head over to his Manning the CIV table page and let us know when you can volunteer? Thanks! I know we don't have a schedule of the actual C4 events yet, sorry. —Xwing328 (Talk) 17:20, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * * *Bumping the comment** We have a bit of a better schedule now. Hope that helps! —Xwing328 (Talk) 00:37, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

IRC
Are you going to be on later tonight?  StarNeptune Talk to me! 20:20, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Fanon
Thank you for telling me this I'm just learning. is it any better now? Fett 1138 ( HoloNet Transceiver ) 05:43, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Map

 * Hey. That map you have on your subpage with links to the articles for the various planets is pretty cool. --Eyrezer 04:36, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * If you're talking about the galaxy overhead map, yes I was testing out the image code that allows for text and links to be placed over an image in 2d coordinates. --  Riffsyphon  1024 04:37, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's the one I meant. Would take an awful lot of work to make it "complete" though. --Eyrezer 04:42, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The galaxy will never be complete. ;) --  Riffsyphon  1024 05:20, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That sounds like an excuse! ;) Perhaps up-to-date is a more accurate description. --Eyrezer 09:16, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Clearance
Not to be a prying eye, but is it the safest thing to put your security clearance on the wiki as your primary user image? Unless it's not a real security clearance card. --  Riffsyphon  1024 06:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You've seen my security card? I'm afraid you shall have to be... dealt with now. No, it's nothing genuine. This is the Capper National Laboratory, and the "research archives" hold some of my caption quips. Ancient history. Enochf 06:26, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yea I get the joke now. I thought it was too good to be true but I investigate everything. --  Riffsyphon  1024 05:27, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Umm...
Why can nobody spell or use correct grammar on this wiki? I always try to, and I am only 10. And my name would have been Aenora, but I thought Aayla was cooler. >:-( Aayla Secura 04:05, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * There are varying levels of grammar and spelling people here, and if someone makes a mistake, someone else can fix it. That's the great thing about a wiki. --  Riffsyphon  1024 05:26, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Contact ASAP
Hey Riffsyphon1024, I need your email and phone # to pass on to Mary Franklin as soon as possible, since she's asking that we have two contacts for the table. If you don't feel like posting it here, you can send it to me at xwing328@wookieepedia.com. Hopefully you'll get this before you go out of town. —Xwing328 (Talk) 04:32, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Sent you a message on facebook. --  Riffsyphon  1024 05:33, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Complaint against an administrator
Hi. This is Jaywin. I wanted to make a brief complaint against an administrator, Darth Culator. I was doing a little bot work (which apparently Culator has a problem with, judging by his comment on my talk page), and he banned me without warning.

More specifically, I was going down the list in the Wanted Pages (which I occasionally do) to try and get rid of some redlinks. Today, I was getting rid of some redlinks that mostly involved IP user pages with a template called "user" (which now Culator has gotten rid of as well). I was also putting welcome templates on the talk pages where they were needed. (Apparently I was using the wrong template on the discussion page. Green Tentacle left a message on my talk page, pointing out my error...which was more of a courtesy than Culator provided. I immediately thanked GT for pointing this out to me.) I began getting rid of some redlinks on Special:Userlist, and (without paying attention, I confess), put the user template on a banned user's page. Apparently this is when I got banned.

I went on the IRC channel to try and straighten this out. Darth Culator was there and basically accused me of being irrational and a vandal. When I suggested that he could have assumed good faith and left a message on my talk page, he responded that he hated it when people mentioned "good faith" (or something to that effect) and then proceeded to kick me off of the IRC.

He then "graciously" unblocked me since he "got my attention" ...of course, he could have got my attention by leaving a message on my talk page, but I guess that would be too much to ask from an administrator who doesn't seem to have much use for the good faith policy.

Personally, I think that Darth Culator's behavior was quite rude and belligerent, and I would expect more from an administrator. Also, judging from his talk page, I'm not the only one who has a problem with the way he conducts business on Wookieepedia.

This wasn't quite as brief as I hoped. But thank you for taking the time to read this, and please feel free to leave a response on my talk page if you'd like. Have a good one. Jaywin 02:03, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Aw, boo frickety hoo. Next time I won't be so nice. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 03:29, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It's precisely because of that attitude why you probably shouldn't even be an administrator. Jaywin 11:34, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Does anyone have the IRC log of that event? I think that would be relevant evidence. Atarumaster88  19:19, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * If this issue warrents further looking into, then it should be proposed at our page for administrator punishment and or reprimand. --  Riffsyphon  1024 04:24, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

C4
Hey just thought I'd say hi. Was good to see you at C4, just got home today and I'm abit jetlagged lol. Hope you had a good time in LA. As promised I'll try be more active on Wookieepedia from now on. Take care, mate. &mdash;  beeurd  talk 21:09, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

By the by
Organisation is a perfectly acceptable spelling...for forums and talk pages. :-p --School of Thrawn 101 11:15, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Though not when the newbie sorta had it correct already, however it wasn't an issue of the 's' versus the 'z'. :) --  Riffsyphon  1024 04:25, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Orly? --School of Thrawn 101 10:37, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Kitchens
Hullo. Recently, I brought up a thread that asked some general SW questions, and it has come to a point where I and DarthMRN were wondering whether there should be an article on kitchen. I, personally, would like you opinion on the matter, as you've had more experience in this sort of thing. Here is the link. Just look a little above the confusing numerical list. Thank you for your time. - Solus (Bird of Prey)  01:40, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I have commented and support the creation of kitchen. Be sure to add those objects that would exist in it, like gamma flux boilers. --  Riffsyphon  1024 04:46, 11 June 2007 (UTC)