Wookieepedia:Inquisitorius/Log/2011 November 27

2011 Nov 27 | 02:00:28 <@CC7567>	!inqsignal 2011 Nov 27 | 02:00:28 <@Nuku-Nuku>	CavalierOne! CC7567! Cylka! Darth_Culator! Eyrezer! GrandMoffTranner! GreenTentacle! Grunny! IFYLOFD! Jujiggum! Menkooroo! Tommy9281! Toprawa and/or Ralltiir! Xicer9! Xd1358! 2011 Nov 27 | 02:00:43 <@IFYLOFD>	LEGGO 2011 Nov 27 | 02:00:43 <@GrandMoffTranner>	Moff Leader, standing by. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:00:59 <@CC7567>	Welcome, all, to Inq Meeting 46 2011 Nov 27 | 02:01:03 <@CC7567>	Happy Post–Black Friday :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:01:19 <@CC7567>	First up, we got articles from last meeting 2011 Nov 27 | 02:01:22 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/ARC-77 2011 Nov 27 | 02:01:25 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/ARC-77 2011 Nov 27 | 02:01:26 <@ecks>	I don't celebrate thanksgiving :| :p 2011 Nov 27 | 02:01:38 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=ARC-77&diff=3786042&oldid=3752243 2011 Nov 27 | 02:01:56 * ecks (@wikia/trekweb.Xd1358) has quit (Quit: ecks) 2011 Nov 27 | 02:02:20 <@CC7567> Everything appears to have been resolved 2011 Nov 27 | 02:02:26 <@CC7567> Keep 2011 Nov 27 | 02:02:40 <@CC7567> CavalierOne, GrandMoffTranner, IFYLOFD? 2011 Nov 27 | 02:02:40 <@IFYLOFD> Keep 2011 Nov 27 | 02:02:42 * ecks_ (@wikia/trekweb.Xd1358) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius 2011 Nov 27 | 02:02:42 * ChanServ sets modes [+o ecks_] 2011 Nov 27 | 02:02:43 <@GrandMoffTranner> Looks okay to me. Keep. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:02:48 <@ecks_> I think that was the wrong button <_> 2011 Nov 27 | 02:02:49 <@CavalierOne> Keep 2011 Nov 27 | 02:02:52 <@ecks_>	yeah, keep it 2011 Nov 27 | 02:03:25 <@CC7567>	Jon suggested a Redux 2011 Nov 27 | 02:03:36 <@CC7567>	I don't think it's necessary though; it would only be for the Equipment section, which looks fine to me 2011 Nov 27 | 02:03:44 <@GrandMoffTranner>	Eh, I don't think it's necessary either. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:03:52 <@CC7567>	ARC-77 kept 2011 Nov 27 | 02:03:53 <@ecks_>	yeah, it's not that big 2011 Nov 27 | 02:04:04 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CC-1119 2011 Nov 27 | 02:04:06 <@ecks_>	we all know it's gonna sit a year or two on the redux page :p 2011 Nov 27 | 02:04:11 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/CC-1119 2011 Nov 27 | 02:04:25 <@CC7567>	Only issue was for an Equipment section, which hasn't gotten added yet 2011 Nov 27 | 02:04:35 <@CavalierOne>	Needs update from Umbara arc now, tho. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:04:38 <@CC7567>	Another issue that came up after the probe was an update for recent TCW episodes, which Jang has started 2011 Nov 27 | 02:04:40 <@CC7567>	Yeah 2011 Nov 27 | 02:04:49 <@ecks_>	fwiw, Jang said he's working on it 2011 Nov 27 | 02:04:54 <@IFYLOFD>	Extend? 2011 Nov 27 | 02:05:08 <@CavalierOne>	See no reason not to. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:05:16 <@GrandMoffTranner>	Sure. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:05:23 *	ecks_ is now known as ecks 2011 Nov 27 | 02:05:24 <@ecks>	extend 2011 Nov 27 | 02:05:46 <@CC7567>	Extend based on the update, but that original Equipment issue needs to get fixed 2011 Nov 27 | 02:06:01 <@CC7567>	CC-1119 extended 2011 Nov 27 | 02:06:14 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CC-1138 2011 Nov 27 | 02:06:21 <@CC7567>	Same Equipment issue, no change 2011 Nov 27 | 02:06:23 <@ecks>	Jang said he's working on that as well. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:06:31 <@IFYLOFD>	Nothing done 2011 Nov 27 | 02:06:58 <@CC7567>	Extend as long as he says he's working on it, though I'm going to vote kill if it's not done by next time 2011 Nov 27 | 02:07:14 <@CavalierOne>	Aye, extend upon that condition. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:07:15 <@GrandMoffTranner>	Per CC. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:07:16 <@ecks>	Per CC; extend. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:07:27 <@IFYLOFD>	Extend 2011 Nov 27 | 02:07:31 <@CC7567>	CC-1138 extended 2011 Nov 27 | 02:07:41 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kaiburr_crystal 2011 Nov 27 | 02:07:45 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kaiburr_crystal 2011 Nov 27 | 02:07:49 <@IFYLOFD>	Keep 2011 Nov 27 | 02:07:52 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Kaiburr_crystal&diff=3786832&oldid=3752240 2011 Nov 27 | 02:08:08 <@CavalierOne>	Keep 2011 Nov 27 | 02:08:15 <@CC7567>	Keep 2011 Nov 27 | 02:08:17 <@GrandMoffTranner>	Keep 2011 Nov 27 | 02:08:19 <@CC7567>	Kaliburr crystal kept 2011 Nov 27 | 02:08:21 <@ecks>	Keep 2011 Nov 27 | 02:08:27 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Soontir_Fel 2011 Nov 27 | 02:08:31 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Soontir_Fel 2011 Nov 27 | 02:08:39 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Soontir_Fel&diff=3785994&oldid=3752239 2011 Nov 27 | 02:09:08 <@CavalierOne>	Keep. Appears fixed. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:09:09 <@IFYLOFD>	Keep 2011 Nov 27 | 02:09:15 <@GrandMoffTranner>	Keep. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:09:38 <@ecks>	Keep 2011 Nov 27 | 02:09:42 <@CC7567>	Hang on 2011 Nov 27 | 02:09:46 <@CC7567>	From Menkooroo: Extend. Jinzler did a fantastic job updating it, but the Galaxies info should be worked into the bio somehow. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:09:57 <@CC7567>	Was that after it got fixed, though, or before? 2011 Nov 27 | 02:10:19 <@CC7567>	Oh, nevermind, Jinzler fixed it after Menkooroo said that, so there shouldn't be any more issues 2011 Nov 27 | 02:10:19 *	Toprawa (~chatzilla@wikia/Toprawa) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius 2011 Nov 27 | 02:10:20 *	ChanServ sets modes [#wookieepedia-inquisitorius +o Toprawa] 2011 Nov 27 | 02:10:20 *	Nuku-Nuku sets modes [#wookieepedia-inquisitorius +o Toprawa] 2011 Nov 27 | 02:10:20 <@CC7567>	Keept 2011 Nov 27 | 02:10:22 <@CC7567>	*Keep 2011 Nov 27 | 02:10:25 <@CC7567>	Hey Tope 2011 Nov 27 | 02:10:32 <@CC7567>	We're on Soontiir Fel right now, which just got kept 2011 Nov 27 | 02:10:44 <@CC7567>	Any more old articles that I might have missed? 2011 Nov 27 | 02:10:46 <@CavalierOne>	CC - Before heading to older stuff, a quick issue. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:10:53 <@IFYLOFD>	Fuck yes, the Caps are wearing their awesome throwback uniforms 2011 Nov 27 | 02:11:34 <@ecks>	^.^ 2011 Nov 27 | 02:11:38 <@CavalierOne>	Last meeting, we voted to extend Tycho Celchu on the basis of me updating for his minor appearance in Ascension. However, his FA status was removed after the meeting rather than extended. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:12:03 <@CavalierOne>	I've updated the article, but the issue taht he was removed remains. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:12:06 <@Toprawa>	hey guys, sorry I'm late 2011 Nov 27 | 02:12:24 <@CavalierOne>	Can we treat it as an extension, or does the remove stand? 2011 Nov 27 | 02:12:57 <@CC7567>	Oh, Culator must have misread the notes 2011 Nov 27 | 02:12:58 <@CC7567>	Lemme check 2011 Nov 27 | 02:12:59 <@IFYLOFD>	Must have been an accident 2011 Nov 27 | 02:13:42 <@ecks>	Yeah, Culator did some strange things... :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:14:02 <@CC7567>	Yeah, it was supposed to be extended :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:14:06 <@CC7567>	Let's probe Culator instead :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:14:14 <@ecks>	haha 2011 Nov 27 | 02:14:23 <@CavalierOne>	I'll abstain from that vote ... 2011 Nov 27 | 02:14:27 <@CC7567>	You can revert the FFA change, Cav :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:14:35 <@CavalierOne>	Woohoo! 2011 Nov 27 | 02:14:39 <@CC7567>	It's up to you to get the paperwork right this time, though :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:14:43 <@ecks>	What an honor 2011 Nov 27 | 02:14:45 <@CC7567>	Kay, back to old (older) stuff 2011 Nov 27 | 02:14:48 <@CavalierOne>	Awwww. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:14:54 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Grassy_Plains 2011 Nov 27 | 02:14:58 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Battle_of_Grassy_Plains_%28second_review%29 2011 Nov 27 | 02:15:34 <@IFYLOFD>	Oh lord 2011 Nov 27 | 02:15:40 <@CC7567>	All that happened since last time was http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Battle_of_Grassy_Plains&action=historysubmit&diff=3750881&oldid=3750097 2011 Nov 27 | 02:15:42 <@IFYLOFD>	This bastard again 2011 Nov 27 | 02:15:57 <@IFYLOFD>	Just kick this in the nuts already 2011 Nov 27 | 02:16:02 <@IFYLOFD>	And by that, I mean kill 2011 Nov 27 | 02:16:05 <@CC7567>	Issues that it was extended for last meeting haven't been fixed 2011 Nov 27 | 02:16:07 <@CC7567>	Kill 2011 Nov 27 | 02:16:08 <@CavalierOne>	Battle was mentioned in the Umbara arc. Its out of date again :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:16:12 <@Toprawa>	I don't see any changes corresponding to the extended probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:16:14 <@Toprawa>	Kill 2011 Nov 27 | 02:16:18 <@CavalierOne>	Kill 2011 Nov 27 | 02:16:27 <@CC7567>	Battle of Grassy Plains killed 2011 Nov 27 | 02:16:29 <@CC7567>	Onto http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canderous_Ordo 2011 Nov 27 | 02:16:34 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Canderous_Ordo 2011 Nov 27 | 02:16:42 <@ecks>	Kill 2011 Nov 27 | 02:16:54 <@CC7567>	Change since last meeting: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Canderous_Ordo&diff=3786406&oldid=3749616 2011 Nov 27 | 02:17:40 <@CC7567>	JethLordMaster says he's updated it fully for Revan, so everything should be good 2011 Nov 27 | 02:17:56 <@CavalierOne>	Seems comprehensive enough. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:17:58 <@IFYLOFD>	Bah, intro citations 2011 Nov 27 | 02:18:01 <@ecks>	doesn't seem worth a redux either 2011 Nov 27 | 02:18:04 <@GrandMoffTranner>	For one thing, he put a ref in the intro... 2011 Nov 27 | 02:18:07 <@ecks>	it's like 2000 bytes added 2011 Nov 27 | 02:18:43 <@CavalierOne>	Hah. Corrected an error in the same sentence and didn't see that :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:18:46 <@Toprawa>	Intro citations... 2011 Nov 27 | 02:18:51 <@Toprawa>	only the Soviets do that anymore :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:19:04 <@CavalierOne>	Anyone removing it? 2011 Nov 27 | 02:19:06 <@GrandMoffTranner>	I'd like someone to go through and make sure everything look goods, preferably someone with access to the book. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:19:14 <@ecks>	In Soviet Russia, sources cite you. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:19:26 <@CavalierOne>	On a brief skim, its all there. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:19:31 *	@CavalierOne has read the book :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:19:37 <@CC7567>	That wouldn't be worth an extended probe, though, since we don't have any issues to probe for 2011 Nov 27 | 02:19:38 <@GrandMoffTranner>	I'm not asking for a brief skim. :p 2011 Nov 27 | 02:19:52 <@CC7567>	I vote keep unless anyone sees anything substantial, like, now 2011 Nov 27 | 02:20:02 <@ecks>	Keep 2011 Nov 27 | 02:20:05 <@Toprawa>	Someone just remove the Soviet citation and we can keep it 2011 Nov 27 | 02:20:08 <@GrandMoffTranner>	I'm not saying we should extend probe. I just want someone to verify everything's there once it's kept. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:20:14 <@CavalierOne>	Keep, and I'll give it a read over. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:20:27 <@GrandMoffTranner>	Excellent, thanks Cav. I vote keep. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:20:27 <@CC7567>	We'll hold you to that, Cav :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:20:29 <@CC7567>	With fire :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:20:34 <@CavalierOne>	Yay! 2011 Nov 27 | 02:20:38 <@CC7567>	Canderous Ordo kept 2011 Nov 27 | 02:20:39 <@Toprawa>	at least until we forget next meeting :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:20:49 <@CavalierOne>	I'm counting on it! 2011 Nov 27 | 02:20:53 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gilad_Pellaeon 2011 Nov 27 | 02:20:57 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Gilad_Pellaeon_(second_review) 2011 Nov 27 | 02:21:05 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Gilad_Pellaeon&diff=3786874&oldid=3710078 2011 Nov 27 | 02:21:46 <@CC7567>	That, I think, is gonna need a Redux 2011 Nov 27 | 02:22:09 <@Toprawa>	Agreed 2011 Nov 27 | 02:22:10 <@CC7567>	Over 10,000 bytes added 2011 Nov 27 | 02:22:15 <@GrandMoffTranner>	Agreed. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:22:16 <@Toprawa>	yeah, definitely 2011 Nov 27 | 02:22:16 <@CavalierOne>	Redux then. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:22:20 <@IFYLOFD>	TO THE DUX IT IS 2011 Nov 27 | 02:22:22 <@GrandMoffTranner>	Redux it. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:22:31 <@ecks>	leave it rot on the redux :3 2011 Nov 27 | 02:23:00 <@CC7567>	Gilad Pellaeon Reduxed 2011 Nov 27 | 02:23:21 <@CC7567>	Kay, finally, http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ludo_Kressh 2011 Nov 27 | 02:23:25 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Ludo_Kressh 2011 Nov 27 | 02:23:29 <@IFYLOFD>	Ol' Chinballs 2011 Nov 27 | 02:23:35 <@IFYLOFD>	I fixed that 2011 Nov 27 | 02:23:37 <@IFYLOFD>	Keep 2011 Nov 27 | 02:23:38 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Ludo_Kressh&diff=3779155&oldid=3710087 2011 Nov 27 | 02:23:50 <@Toprawa>	Keep 2011 Nov 27 | 02:23:52 <@ecks>	Keep 2011 Nov 27 | 02:23:58 <@GrandMoffTranner>	Keep 2011 Nov 27 | 02:24:01 <@Toprawa>	Chinballs 2011 Nov 27 | 02:24:04 <@Toprawa>	heh 2011 Nov 27 | 02:24:07 <@CavalierOne>	I do believe he gets a mention in Revan. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:24:33 <@CC7567>	Keep 2011 Nov 27 | 02:24:37 <@IFYLOFD>	Does he? FUck 2011 Nov 27 | 02:24:43 <@IFYLOFD>	I'll go through Revan and rectify that 2011 Nov 27 | 02:24:49 <@IFYLOFD>	I just got the book today 2011 Nov 27 | 02:24:50 <@CC7567>	Calm down, Floyd :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:24:53 <@IFYLOFD>	*Fuck 2011 Nov 27 | 02:24:56 <@IFYLOFD>	IT'S MY ARTICLE 2011 Nov 27 | 02:24:59 <@ecks>	articles are srs bizniz :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:25:01 <@IFYLOFD>	I WILL PROTECT HIM WITH MY LIFE 2011 Nov 27 | 02:25:03 <@CC7567>	We'll avoid probing on that since Revan hasn't been out for a month 2011 Nov 27 | 02:25:04 <@CavalierOne>	Sorry :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:25:12 <@CC7567>	*extending probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:25:18 <@CC7567>	Ludo Kressh kept 2011 Nov 27 | 02:25:26 <@CC7567>	That's it for old(er) articles 2011 Nov 27 | 02:25:28 <@CC7567>	Onto the new 2011 Nov 27 | 02:25:37 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Oss_Wilum 2011 Nov 27 | 02:25:46 <@CC7567>	Issues raised here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Re-featured_article_nominations/Oss_Wilum 2011 Nov 27 | 02:26:00 <@ecks>	ugh, I'll be back in a few minutes 2011 Nov 27 | 02:26:05 <@CC7567>	Probe based on RFAN issues 2011 Nov 27 | 02:26:07 <@Toprawa>	Proab 2011 Nov 27 | 02:26:17 <@GrandMoffTranner>	Probify. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:26:23 <@CavalierOne>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:26:34 <@CC7567>	Oss Wilum probed 2011 Nov 27 | 02:26:41 <@CC7567>	starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sate_Pestage 2011 Nov 27 | 02:26:46 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sate_Pestage 2011 Nov 27 | 02:26:54 <@CC7567>	underlinking, examples of "unknown" OOU perspectives, succession box lacks before-years and after-years, tag in the article, and  needs to be used for non-templated citations. Requires more context in numerous places, particularly the beginning of the Bio—too much is left unexplained to the casual, perhaps less knowledgeable reader. Also, a better job needs to be done... 2011 Nov 27 | 02:26:55 <@CC7567>	...with handling the conflict of his death; the in-universe part of the article presents speculation on whether he actually died a second time, which is still unwarranted in the Bio in spite of the complexity of the conflict. CC7567 (talk) 07:17, November 17, 2011 (UTC) 2011 Nov 27 | 02:27:10 <@Toprawa>	Proab 2011 Nov 27 | 02:27:15 <@CavalierOne>	Probity 2011 Nov 27 | 02:27:15 <@GrandMoffTranner>	Probe. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:27:18 <@CC7567>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:27:27 <@CC7567>	Sate Pestage probed 2011 Nov 27 | 02:27:37 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Military_Creation_Act 2011 Nov 27 | 02:27:45 <@CC7567>	from just having to add two Fact Files to the Sources list, it doesn't look like that Sources list is complete. The Fact Files need to be consulted in some way. CC7567 (talk) 09:02, November 21, 2011 (UTC) 2011 Nov 27 | 02:27:47 <@CC7567>	   I took the liberty of adding the Fact Files listed in the index, but that probably isn't all of them, and all of the ones I just added need to be checked for new info, since apparently that hasn't happened yet. CC7567 (talk) 09:12, November 21, 2011 (UTC) 2011 Nov 27 | 02:27:54 <@CC7567>	I'm having such a fun time with Hydro's articles 9_9 2011 Nov 27 | 02:28:02 <@IFYLOFD>	So.... 2011 Nov 27 | 02:28:04 <@IFYLOFD>	Probe? 2011 Nov 27 | 02:28:05 <@Toprawa>	Proab 2011 Nov 27 | 02:28:08 <@ecks>	back 2011 Nov 27 | 02:28:09 <@ecks>	probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:28:13 <@CavalierOne>	Probe. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:28:13 <@GrandMoffTranner>	Probe. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:28:15 <@CC7567>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:28:26 <@CC7567>	Military Creation Act probed 2011 Nov 27 | 02:28:36 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rango_Tel 2011 Nov 27 | 02:28:44 <@CC7567>	a lot of conjecture, such as "but it is not known if he took any steps to protect her, or even if he cared for her. It is known that he left her alone, undefended in the relatively hostile Tatooine while he hunted for Nale, although this may again have been a product of his naiveté." I do not know whether that is a violation of MOS, or if it is actually mentioned like that in-universe. If it... 2011 Nov 27 | 02:28:46 <@CC7567>	...is indeed not mentioned in-universe, it has to go. Hanzo Hasashi 02:34, November 22, 2011 (UTC) 2011 Nov 27 | 02:29:18 <@CavalierOne>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:29:21 <@CC7567>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:29:30 <@GrandMoffTranner>	Probe-tacular. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:29:35 <@IFYLOFD>	A-probing we will go 2011 Nov 27 | 02:29:42 <@CC7567>	Rango Tel probed 2011 Nov 27 | 02:29:55 <@CC7567>	Boil, Battle of Kiros, Zygerrian—All require an update, and with the latter two I'll have to wrap my head around regarding the integration of the new information with the old stuff. Lucky me. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 14:47, November 26, 2011 (UTC) 2011 Nov 27 | 02:29:57 <@CC7567>	   Lately we've been trying to avoid probing stuff for new material that's been out less than a month, so you should be safe. We can probe it at the next meeting if necessary. CC7567 (talk) 18:26, November 26, 2011 (UTC) 2011 Nov 27 | 02:30:15 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Boil, http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Kiros, and http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Zygerrian, for reference 2011 Nov 27 | 02:30:18 <@CavalierOne>	Leniency. Wait until all eps are aired at least :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:30:28 <@CC7567>	The episode just came out yesterday, so we should be nice :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:30:30 <@CC7567>	For now :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:30:37 <@CC7567>	Spare 2011 Nov 27 | 02:30:59 <@IFYLOFD>	Spare 2011 Nov 27 | 02:31:01 <@GrandMoffTranner>	Sure, spare. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:31:04 <@ecks>	spare 2011 Nov 27 | 02:31:30 <@Toprawa>	yeah Spare 2011 Nov 27 | 02:31:35 <@CC7567>	Boil, Battle of Kiros, and Zygerrian spared 2011 Nov 27 | 02:32:21 <@CC7567>	Hang on, checking maintenance page 2011 Nov 27 | 02:32:59 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Destruction_of_Taris 2011 Nov 27 | 02:33:11 <@CC7567>	Has numerous TOR updates required for material that came out in the last few weeks 2011 Nov 27 | 02:33:22 <@CavalierOne>	Probably mentioned in Revan, too. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:33:32 <@CC7567>	Hasn't been out for a month, but I'm inclined to probe it now because the original nominator isn't here anymore 2011 Nov 27 | 02:33:50 <@CavalierOne>	TOR's going to hit a lot of articles. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:34:07 <@CC7567>	I vote probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:34:32 <@Toprawa>	who was the original nominator? 2011 Nov 27 | 02:34:35 <@CC7567>	Goodwood 2011 Nov 27 | 02:34:36 *	Nuku-Nuku has kicked CC7567 from #wookieepedia-inquisitorius (You have been kicked for using a word prohibited in the presence of this bot. Please use more appropriate language in the future.) 2011 Nov 27 | 02:34:37 *	CC7567 (~chatzilla@wikia/CC7567) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius 2011 Nov 27 | 02:34:37 *	ChanServ sets modes [#wookieepedia-inquisitorius +o CC7567] 2011 Nov 27 | 02:34:37 *	Nuku-Nuku sets modes [#wookieepedia-inquisitorius +o CC7567] 2011 Nov 27 | 02:34:39 <@Toprawa>	hahahahahaha 2011 Nov 27 | 02:34:41 <@IFYLOFD>	lol 2011 Nov 27 | 02:34:42 <@ecks>	XD 2011 Nov 27 | 02:34:44 <@GrandMoffTranner>	hahaha 2011 Nov 27 | 02:34:46 <@CavalierOne>	XD 2011 Nov 27 | 02:34:55 <@GrandMoffTranner>	Priceless. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:35:01 <@CC7567>	.... 2011 Nov 27 | 02:35:07 <@Toprawa>	yeah, probe :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:35:09 <@CC7567>	Fine, the good that ends in wood :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:35:13 <@IFYLOFD>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:35:14 <@CavalierOne>	Twice today I've seen that :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:35:17 <@GrandMoffTranner>	Yeah, probe. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:35:24 <@ecks>	probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:35:24 <@CavalierOne>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:35:32 <@GrandMoffTranner>	Alright, gotta run. See you all later. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:35:38 <@Toprawa>	peace 2011 Nov 27 | 02:35:40 <@CC7567>	Later, Tranner 2011 Nov 27 | 02:35:47 <@CC7567>	Destruction of Taris probed 2011 Nov 27 | 02:35:50 *	GrandMoffTranner (~Tranner@wikia/GrandMoffTranner) has quit (Quit: Meh!) 2011 Nov 27 | 02:36:49 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Form_IV:_Ataru is on the RFAN page and requires an update, but actually Jon's objections on the RFAN have been idle for a month now 2011 Nov 27 | 02:36:54 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Re-featured_article_nominations#Form_IV:_Ataru 2011 Nov 27 | 02:37:00 <@CC7567>	Shall we vote remove from RFAN into probing? 2011 Nov 27 | 02:37:16 <@CC7567>	(Crimson Empire III, which is what requires updating for, has been out a month now) 2011 Nov 27 | 02:37:33 <@Toprawa>	Remove 2011 Nov 27 | 02:37:43 <@ecks>	yeah, remove 2011 Nov 27 | 02:37:46 <@CavalierOne>	Remove to probe. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:37:46 <@CC7567>	Remove and probe? 2011 Nov 27 | 02:37:49 <@CC7567>	Okay 2011 Nov 27 | 02:38:09 <@CC7567>	Form IV: Ataru removed and probed for outstanding RFAN issues and required update 2011 Nov 27 | 02:38:09 <@Toprawa>	yeah 2011 Nov 27 | 02:38:16 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Caedus 2011 Nov 27 | 02:38:18 <@CC7567>	9_9 2011 Nov 27 | 02:38:23 <@CC7567>	Like we didn't expect that :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:38:34 <@CC7567>	update required again for Crimson Empire III, which has been out for a month 2011 Nov 27 | 02:38:40 <@IFYLOFD>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:38:48 <@CC7567>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:38:54 <@Toprawa>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:39:01 <@CavalierOne>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:39:02 <@ecks>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:39:09 <@CC7567>	Darth Caedus probed 2011 Nov 27 | 02:39:19 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Oppo_Rancisis 2011 Nov 27 | 02:39:29 <@CC7567>	Update required for a TCW book that I overlooked :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:39:31 <@CC7567>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:39:48 <@IFYLOFD>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:39:55 <@ecks>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:39:59 <@CavalierOne>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:40:14 <@ecks>	is it just me or are 90% of our probes revolving around TCW? :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:40:19 <@CC7567>	It's not you :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:40:22 <@CC7567>	Oppo Rancisis probed 2011 Nov 27 | 02:40:51 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Bane 2011 Nov 27 | 02:41:03 <@CC7567>	Update required for the TCW Season 3 boxed set, which came out over a month ago 2011 Nov 27 | 02:41:14 <@CC7567>	I don't have it, but I assume it's for directors' comments about his cut appearance in "Ghosts of Mortis" 2011 Nov 27 | 02:41:17 <@CavalierOne>	Really? TCW? 2011 Nov 27 | 02:41:24 <@CavalierOne>	Ah. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:41:35 <@CC7567>	He almost made it into TCW :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:41:40 <@Toprawa>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:41:41 <@CC7567>	Along with Revan :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:41:44 <@CC7567>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:41:53 <@CavalierOne>	Probe. Put the TCW experts on to it! 2011 Nov 27 | 02:41:54 <@ecks>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:41:55 <@IFYLOFD>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:42:04 <@IFYLOFD>	If that happened, Jang's head would explode 2011 Nov 27 | 02:42:08 <@Toprawa>	haha 2011 Nov 27 | 02:42:14 <@CC7567>	Yes, it would :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:42:17 <@CC7567>	Darth Bane probed 2011 Nov 27 | 02:42:38 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ibtisam 2011 Nov 27 | 02:42:44 <@CC7567>	Update required for last Insider issue, over a month ago 2011 Nov 27 | 02:42:51 <@CC7567>	Also, I see some after-years and before-years that need filling 2011 Nov 27 | 02:43:07 <@CavalierOne>	Probe. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:43:23 <@CC7567>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:43:31 <@IFYLOFD>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:43:32 <@Toprawa>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:43:33 <@ecks>	Prob 2011 Nov 27 | 02:43:35 <@ecks>	+e 2011 Nov 27 | 02:43:44 <@CC7567>	Ibtisam probed 2011 Nov 27 | 02:44:00 <@CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jaina_Solo, again an update for Crimson Empire III 2011 Nov 27 | 02:44:13 <@CavalierOne>	Probe. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:44:14 <@IFYLOFD>	Damn, how many of these are there? 2011 Nov 27 | 02:44:15 <@IFYLOFD>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:44:40 <@CC7567>	Time to probe her a fourth time 2011 Nov 27 | 02:44:56 <@IFYLOFD>	I'd probe Jaina 2011 Nov 27 | 02:44:57 <@Toprawa>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:45:01 <@Toprawa>	With a desire to Kill next meeting 2011 Nov 27 | 02:45:10 <@ecks>	Probe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:45:18 <@CC7567>	Jaina Solo probed 2011 Nov 27 | 02:45:20 <@ecks>	fourth? I thought it was five by now 2011 Nov 27 | 02:45:36 <@CC7567>	It's just a lot :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:45:42 <@CC7567>	Anyone have any other new articles? 2011 Nov 27 | 02:45:46 <@CavalierOne>	She enjoys it. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:45:50 <@ecks>	heh 2011 Nov 27 | 02:46:10 <@IFYLOFD>	Hanzo had Davin Felth 2011 Nov 27 | 02:46:18 <@IFYLOFD>	But he put it in the wrong place on the meeting page 2011 Nov 27 | 02:46:41 <@CC7567>	Toprawa got it, I believe 2011 Nov 27 | 02:46:44 <@Toprawa>	It's done 2011 Nov 27 | 02:46:56 <@IFYLOFD>	OK 2011 Nov 27 | 02:47:40 <@CC7567>	Kay, if no one else has new articles, we move to discussion 2011 Nov 27 | 02:47:43 <@CC7567>	First, Menkooroo's Redux thing 2011 Nov 27 | 02:47:58 <@CC7567>	Way too long to post here, so just go and read http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Meeting_46#Discussion_stuff 2011 Nov 27 | 02:49:12 <@Toprawa>	So basically we need to be more objective and comprehensive about we send to Redux? 2011 Nov 27 | 02:49:13 <@Toprawa>	I agree 2011 Nov 27 | 02:49:29 <@Toprawa>	I don't think the time it takes in getting updated has any bearing on our decision-making process 2011 Nov 27 | 02:49:34 <@Toprawa>	It's just those are the ones we notice, I think 2011 Nov 27 | 02:49:50 <@CavalierOne>	How about setting a minimum byte length? If it goes over, off to redux it goes? 2011 Nov 27 | 02:50:02 <@ecks>	or word 2011 Nov 27 | 02:50:05 <@ecks>	word count 2011 Nov 27 | 02:50:05 <@Toprawa>	We have established that at 5,000 KB already 2011 Nov 27 | 02:50:06 <@CC7567>	I think we established that at one point, but I forgot what it was 2011 Nov 27 | 02:50:10 <@Toprawa>	we did that a long time ago 2011 Nov 27 | 02:50:13 <@CC7567>	Yeah, it was that 2011 Nov 27 | 02:50:14 <@ecks>	yeah, think so too 2011 Nov 27 | 02:50:17 <@CavalierOne>	Then my work here is done. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:50:21 <@Toprawa>	heh 2011 Nov 27 | 02:50:33 <@Toprawa>	If we need to be more vigilant about what we're doing, fine 2011 Nov 27 | 02:50:39 <@Toprawa>	But I don't think the system needs changing so much 2011 Nov 27 | 02:50:54 <@CC7567>	Yeah 2011 Nov 27 | 02:51:07 <@CC7567>	Just one thing 2011 Nov 27 | 02:51:10 <@CavalierOne>	Maybe we should find a way to track all updates to FAs. I know mine rarely get pulled since I'm pretty quick with them. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:51:30 <@CC7567>	When we send an article to Redux for an added section, do we only review that section for Redux? Or do we review the entire article to check for all-around quality? 2011 Nov 27 | 02:51:49 <@CavalierOne>	I'd say check the addition. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:51:59 <@Toprawa>	I believe the original intention was the addition only 2011 Nov 27 | 02:52:08 <@CavalierOne>	But how the addition integrates into the existing should be considered as well. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:52:10 <@Toprawa>	If other people wanted to look at the other material in their spare time, that was ok 2011 Nov 27 | 02:52:15 <@CavalierOne>	Updates to intro, and infobox, etc. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:52:16 <@Toprawa>	but we only /needed/ to look at the new stuff 2011 Nov 27 | 02:52:22 <@CC7567>	All right 2011 Nov 27 | 02:52:30 <@Toprawa>	and per Cav as well 2011 Nov 27 | 02:52:50 <@CC7567>	If only for my sake, I think we should add this to one of the Inq pages 2011 Nov 27 | 02:53:05 <@CC7567>	Just to make sure all of us are clear on what the parameters are, which hasn't always been the case in the past 2011 Nov 27 | 02:53:05 <@Toprawa>	Agreed, if only for clarification 2011 Nov 27 | 02:53:56 <@ecks>	sounds good 2011 Nov 27 | 02:54:01 <@CavalierOne>	Aye 2011 Nov 27 | 02:54:14 <@IFYLOFD>	OK 2011 Nov 27 | 02:54:25 <@CC7567>	How about adding "Commonly, articles are chosen for Redux if they receive additions at least 5,000 bytes in size." to Item 1 on http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Redux_page 2011 Nov 27 | 02:55:10 <@CC7567>	Or maybe "nearing or exceeding 5,000 bytes" instead, to make it a little more flexible if it's like 4,999 bytes 2011 Nov 27 | 02:55:26 <@CavalierOne>	Sounds reasonable. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:55:34 <@Toprawa>	is it bytes or kilobytes? 2011 Nov 27 | 02:55:39 <@Toprawa>	or does it not matter? 2011 Nov 27 | 02:55:49 <@ecks>	bytes 2011 Nov 27 | 02:55:51 <@CC7567>	I think it was bytes, cuz that's what the History is measured in 2011 Nov 27 | 02:55:58 <@Toprawa>	ok 2011 Nov 27 | 02:56:00 <@CC7567>	Everyone okay with that? 2011 Nov 27 | 02:56:12 <@ecks>	yeah 2011 Nov 27 | 02:56:33 <@Toprawa>	Do it 2011 Nov 27 | 02:56:40 <@CavalierOne>	Do it real good. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:56:47 *	CavalierOne (~chatzilla@[redacted]) has left #wookieepedia-inquisitorius 2011 Nov 27 | 02:56:56 <@ecks>	:S 2011 Nov 27 | 02:57:57 *	CavalierOne (~chatzilla@[redacted]) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius 2011 Nov 27 | 02:57:57 *	ChanServ sets modes [#wookieepedia-inquisitorius +o CavalierOne] 2011 Nov 27 | 02:57:57 *	Nuku-Nuku sets modes [#wookieepedia-inquisitorius +o CavalierOne] 2011 Nov 27 | 02:58:02 <@CC7567>	I think that other part should be fine 2011 Nov 27 | 02:58:04 <@CavalierOne>	Bah. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:58:19 <@CC7567>	Okay, next discussion item 2011 Nov 27 | 02:58:24 <@CC7567>	Which should have been under New articles :/ 2011 Nov 27 | 02:58:36 <@CC7567>	Several FA's now apparently appear in Galaxies, hopefully StarsiderSWG can handle the updates before this meeting takes place. Hanzo Hasashi 22:04, November 21, 2011 (UTC) 2011 Nov 27 | 02:58:38 <@CC7567>	   Galaxies FA's: Tarrin Datch, Keyan Farlander, Maarek Stele. I've contacted Starsider about these. Hanzo Hasashi 20:31, November 25, 2011 (UTC) 2011 Nov 27 | 02:58:55 <@CC7567>	Should we probe these? 2011 Nov 27 | 02:59:00 <@CC7567>	We were discussing this at the earlier AC meeting 2011 Nov 27 | 02:59:02 <@CavalierOne>	I say we hand out spankings until people in the know update the article or pass on information. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:59:07 <@Toprawa>	I object to probing anything from Galaxies until we get a better sense of what we need to add. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:59:13 <@Toprawa>	per Cav 2011 Nov 27 | 02:59:23 <@Toprawa>	I'm still waiting on Starsider to give me info, after he said he would 2011 Nov 27 | 02:59:26 <@CC7567>	Okay 2011 Nov 27 | 02:59:28 <@Toprawa>	I need to ask him again 2011 Nov 27 | 02:59:41 <@CC7567>	So, solution is to probe Starsider :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:59:47 <@Toprawa>	Works for me :P 2011 Nov 27 | 02:59:51 <@CavalierOne>	With a cane. 2011 Nov 27 | 02:59:54 <@CavalierOne>	Or a slipper. 2011 Nov 27 | 03:00:07 <@CC7567>	Anyone have anything else to discuss? 2011 Nov 27 | 03:00:18 <@ecks>	nope 2011 Nov 27 | 03:00:22 <@IFYLOFD>	We're good 2011 Nov 27 | 03:00:32 <@IFYLOFD>	Took exactly one hour 2011 Nov 27 | 03:00:34 <@CC7567>	We are done