User:Razzy1319/More Clones

Official Stance

 * razzy1319: Is the new numbers for the droid and clone canon?
 * Tasty Taste: Yes. -


 * Abel Pena - "Because the droid army statistic of "quintillions" made the ratio of Separatist droid forces to Republic clone soldiers (at a mere three million) something that would make even a Han Solo consider the odds (at least 600 billion to 1), "Lord of War" offers some perspective with the help of some Lucasfilm sources. With Lucasfilm adamant about retaining a clone army figure close to the low millions mark (a reference to a potentially much larger figure from Inside the Worlds of Episode II was rejected), some out-of-the-box thinking seemed in order. "Lord of War" points out that a number of these quintillions made up not only the ground forces of the Separatists but their naval forces as well. Combined with reference to a line in the New Essential Chronology (2005, Del Rey), which briefly mentions that the Republic army recruited non-clones, enough wiggle room emerges to bring into question A) The numerical division of Grievous' "droid army" into army and navy, B) How many Separatist "vehicles," many of them actually droids themselves, figured into the size of the droid army, C) How big the Republic army was beyond their clone forces, and D) How big the Republic navy was beyond their clone forces."


 * Matthew Stover - *Yet To Be refound*


 * Ryan Kaufman - "FYI, re: 3 million. LFL was very clear to us that no fixed number of total clones would or could be assigned. Therefore, the number 3 million (plus) does not represent the entire fighting force."

Support

 * Attack of the Clones - "Two hundred thousand units are ready, with another million well on the way"


 * Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones (novel) - "Two hundred thousand units are ready, with another million well on the way"


 * Star Wars Republic 50: The Battle of Kamino - "Kamino still has a million or more clone troopers in various stages of preparation"


 * Hard Contact - "Millions"


 * Shatterpoint - "Yoda is the master strategist of the Jedi Council. A life as vast as his predisposes one to see the big picture, and take the long view. He developed our current strategy of limited engagement on multiple fronts; our goal is to harass the Separatists, wear them down in a war of attrition, chip away at them and prevent them from consolidating their position. In this way, we hope to gain time for the titanic manufacturing base of the Republic to be converted to the production of ships, weapons, and other war materiel. And time to train our troops. The Kaminoan clone troopers are not only the best soldiers we have, they are very nearly our only soldiers. We would use them to train civilian volunteers and law-enforcement personnel in weapons and tactics, but the Separatists have managed to keep nearly all 1.2 million of them fully engaged, rushing from system to system and planet to planet to meet probing attacks from the bewildering variety of war droids that the TechnoUnion, with the financial backing of the Trade Federation, turns out in seemingly unlimited quantities. Since we need all our clones simply to defend Republic systems, we have been forced to find ways to attack without them. The Separatists don't enjoy unalloyed popularity, even in their core systems; and in any society, there are fringe elements eager to take up arms against authority. Jedi have been covertly inserted on hundreds of worlds, with a common mission: to organize Loyalist resistance, train partisans in sabotage and guerrilla warfare, and generally do whatever possible to destabilize the Separatist governments."
 * "I remember that the Grand Army of the Republic numbers 1.2 million clone troopers-just enough to station a single trooper-one lone man-on each planet of the Republic, and have a handful of thousands left over."


 * The Cestus Deception - "Flesh and blood, yes, but bred in a bottle, merely another of 1.2 million clone troopers born with no father to protect them, and no mother to mourn."


 * Labyrinth of Evil - "With only half the original army of 1.2 million in fighting shape, the life of every clone was vital. Blood and replacement organs--what the regular troopers referred to as "spare parts"--were readily available--"easily requisitioned"--but with the war reaching a crescendo, battlefield casualties were on the rise and treated as high priority."


 * Geonosis and the Outer Rim Worlds - "The initial delivery of 200,000 clones was to be followed by millions more."


 * Inside the Worlds of Star Wars: Attack of the Clones - "When Obi-Wan arrives, Tipoca is already primed to deliver 200,000 clone troops, while facilities across the planet are equipped to produce millions more."

On cloning and non-clone forces

 * The New Essential Chronology


 * The New Essential Chronology


 * The Story of General Grievous: Lord of War - "Faced with such numerical opposition, the Republic had little choice but to recruit massive numbers of able-bodied men and women from the civilian population to augment the clone army"


 * Nomad - Presence of elite mercenary/soldiers and a large invasion/battle before the Battle of Geonosis


 * Jedi Council: Acts of War - Large force of Judicials subduing a large force of Yinchorri warships.


 * Star Wars Republic 36 to 39, The Stark Hyperspace War - Presence of a Republic Army and of a Republic Navy.


 * Cloak of Deception - Presence of Militarists


 * Jedi Trial - Presence of Sons and Daughters of Freedom(50,000 men and women strong) and the local Praesitlyn Defense Force


 * Star Wars: Jedi Starfighter - The Presence of non-clone crews on the Acclamator I-class assault ships, two large mercenary groups(Lok Revenants) and (Sabaoth Squadron) one of which was a Republic ally and whose leader would later be recuited to become a commander of the Karthakk system.


 * Presence of a military infrastructure, although not centralized under the Galactic Republic - [[Academy of Carida, HAVw A4 Juggernaut, Dreadnaught-class heavy cruiser