Talk:Shaak Ti/Legends


 * She had incredible lightsaber skills with the abitlity to levitate three lightsabers at one time. Sith Lord Traya was also able to do the same 4,000 years ago.

What's the source for that? MarcK 21:50, 5 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * It's the same fan wankery that I cleared off Kit Fisto and other major Prequel Jedi. --SparqMan 02:11, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

that was greivous or vader.--wattamb2000
 * Was her head and legs cut off by vader, or was she stabbed in the back by vader, or was she stabbed by greivous, or killed by the clone's order 66?--wattamb2000
 * Her legs and head were cut off by Anakin. Its a supposed deleted scene. -- Riffsyphon1024 00:57, 21 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * Two versions of Shaak Ti's death were filmed, but neither were in the movie. --beeurd 01:28, 21 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Shaak Ti's Death
Does Some one have the Pic from the "untold set diary" were she is killed by Anakin? Lets put that with the episode III spoiler thingy Dylankidwell 06:14, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC) Just a thought :) Dylankidwell 13:22, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC) 6 DEATH SCENES! I saw in the LEGO star wars video game that Vader just beheads her. Is this canon? And, how do the fans know that Shaak's Legs were cut off?--wattamb2000 I did but I found it out from Shaak Ti on wikipeidia before somone put that back stabbing thing in. Wait, on the cruel fate of Shaak Ti (Reading now) There were 3. The "What Happened?!" stabbing in back one, The What is it Skywalker? stabbing in the back one, and the true Greivous one.(Stabbing) --wattamb2000
 * Let's avoid using behind the scenes pictures from Hyperspace which, as a pay service, would get LFL stomping us down quick. QuentinGeorge 07:53, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * I made a section about Shaak Ti's death. All your questions are answered there.-wattamb2000
 * Unfortunately, it's full of mispellings, grammatical errors and OOU. Hence, it needs to be rewritten. QuentinGeorge 06:39, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Whats wrong about it?-wattamb2000
 * Like the man said,its full of mispellings, grammatical errors and OOU.Durnar 11:54, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * At least the facts are right. Right? Im 10 years old. I sometimes have spelling mistakes. Oh yeha, whats OOU.-wattamb2000
 * "OOU" is short for "out of universe perspective" -- like saying "Shaak Ti was killed during scene 28 of Revenge of the Sith" instead of "Shaak Ti was killed during Darth Vader's raid on the Jedi Temple in 19 BBY". Anything that references the real world (like referring to actors, writers) is supposed to go in a separate "Behind the scenes" section.  See various other articles, and the Manual of Style, for examples.  &mdash; Silly Dan  12:11, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Or maybey she was killed by the clones on another planet? Maybey Felucia or Mygeeto?-wattamb2000
 * She wasnt on Felucia or Mygeeto. She either died in the Temple or died fighting Grievous as far as I can see Durnar 12:28, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * My uncle saw the expanded version and said While Vader Was killing the Separatists Vader said "something" (He forgot) about Shaak Ti.-wattamb2000
 * Having cleaned up the section dealing with her death, I disagree that there were five deleted death scenes. There appear to be two, each with slight variations in fight choreography.  &mdash; Silly Dan  16:45, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't know, wattamb2000, I thought you added it. Should probably be removed, as it doesn't make sense that he'd do that after killing her.  (Oh, Lego Star Wars isn't canon.)  &mdash; Silly Dan  00:59, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Does anyone else think this section ought to be condensed into two death scenes (one on the Invisible Hand and one in the Jedi Temple) ignoring variations in dialogue and fight choreography? &mdash; Silly Dan 01:26, 1 Sep 2005 (UTC) Ok, how are they going to play that into the movie? Is it going to be like it was in the begining? Or is the storyline changed?Dylankidwell 22:28, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * *raises hand* – Aidje talk 02:06, 1 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * Good enough for me. I've put a greatly reduced version up, but the longer version is still in the history if anyone thinks it should be expanded.  &mdash; Silly Dan  02:36, 1 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * So, are we agreed that Shaak Ti was killed by Grievous? If so, how much retconing is going to have to take place? -- SFH 15:08, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, yes. It is going to be in the Episode 3 DVD.--Wattamb2001 21:18, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * Ooo! Another big Shaak Ti disscusion! Yeah!! Oh, and Dylankidwell, Tey will probuly alter the scene. Instead of cutting to the bridge to introduce General Grievous, the script followed the intrepid Jedi as they worked their way through the cruiser. The elevator antics haven't happened yet. In scene 6, the Jedi encounter Shaak Ti, sitting meditatively on the grimy floor of a wide hallway. There are tears in her eyes as she apologizes to Kenobi for her failure. Six destroyer droids tumble into the hallway, parting to reveal General Grievous and his bodyguard droids. Here was his original scripted introduction:

GENERAL GRIEVOUS: Anakin Skywalker, the "hero with no fear." We've been waiting for you. Frankly, I was expecting someone with your reputation to be a bit... older.

ANAKIN: General Grievous, "Supreme Commander of the Droid Armies," you're shorter than I expected...

GENERAL GRIEVOUS: I'm surprised Skywalker, for someone with so much intelligence... you walked right into my hands.

ANAKIN: Quiet frankly, I was hoping for more.

OBI-WAN (quietly): Anakin, we've got a job to do here, don't upset him.

GENERAL GRIEVOUS: Ah, yes, and General Kenobi, "the negotiator," who doesn't know the meaning of the word intelligence. Your presence, along with Chancellor Palpatine's, has graciously given me more hostages than I could have hoped for. Shaak Ti, your Lightsaber seems a little battle-worn. *coughs*. It will need considerible cleening but it wikk do the job.

GRIEVOUS stabs SHAAK TI in the back. SHAAK TI falls back and lets out a sigh. ANAKIN and OBI-WAN turn grim.--Wattamb2001 22:52, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I see i found the pics of that scene. I got linked to it from Rebelscum.com. So i see there just going to add that and they should keep that greivous on the bridge scene because after they go into the vent Greivous walks there and locates them. See im smart i got it! LOL. Dylankidwell 01:16, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)

BELIEVED to be killed in the assault on the temple. So she is possibly even alive! I think she's too popular to die. Maybe she will appear in Star Wars: Purge? (12:47, 4 Jan 2006)
 * As I recall, Shaak has no canonical death. On the databank it is said the she is


 * The novel includes a scene where Anakin asks Jurokk where Shaak Ti is. He replies she's meditating in her chambers, trying to understand the nature of the disturbance in the Force. At this point, the 501st is already marching into the Temple, so I don't see how she could have survived the raid - Kwenn


 * Bultar Swan survived.... ( she was on the way to a mission as i recall)
 * "This scene is not canon, as Shaak Ti is later seen alive (though in hologram form) during a Jedi Council meeting, and is presumed to be at all meetings in the film, albeit off-screen."

This is false: When the Council meeting on Kashyyyk is shown (in holographic form) all of the Council members EXCEPT Shaak Ti are present.
 * "G (George Lucas) canon is absolute canon. This category includes the six films, the deleted scenes from the films, the novelizations of the films, the radio dramas based on the films, the film scripts, and any material found in any other source (published or not) that comes directly from George Lucas himself. G canon outranks all other forms of canon."
 * I think you should check that again. Shaak Ti is clearly sitting there. - Lord Hydronium 00:23, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Deleted Scenes are canon: Shaak Ti's death in Episode III (deleted scene)


 * Shaak Ti alive: Episode III novelization. Accept it people: Shaak Ti did not die on the Invisible Hand. Live with it. And since when have deleted scenes been canon? -- SFH 00:16, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)


 * I refer you to the quote above... starting with G (George Lucas)... taken from this website under canon.


 * She is canonically dead. Do you think that they filmed two death scenes of a character just to later intend her to survive? I remember seeing Shaak Ti in the Council chamber, so we do know that she survived the Invisible Hand or was not even there. - TopAce 22:31, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
 * And Shaak Ti is on the holo of the Council meeting with Yoda. See it here. -- SFH 01:49, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Both the deleted scenes cannot be canon unless you suggest that Shaak Ti actually died twice. Therefore it's questionable that any deleted scene is canon. The films, however, definitely are. I would agree with the Databank on this one. As we can see her sitting later in the Council, Grievous can't have killed her. In the novel Vader is indeed looking for her and probably kills her, too. But as I see it, there still is no canonical evidence of her death.

I believe that her death was the second one that was never put through the editing process. It seems more logical than the one of her dying on the Invisible Hand.--Dil 23:06, 22 February 2006 (UTC) Shaak Ti gets killed by General Greivous in episode 3, it's even in the deleted scenes for proof.
 * The new Insider issue says something completely different: She didn't die in the Raid on the Jedi Temple. And she wasn't on Invisible Hand. She survived the initial stages of the Great Jedi Purge. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:42, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * So this is definite canon? Interesting, I guess we may one day find out the details of her death if there are to be books about the Purge. --Gurbiza 12:44, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * What Issue was it? I want to add it to the BTS section (I really have to start subscribing to that). -- SFH 22:50, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I swear Lucas as well as the RoTS novel both indicate that she died at the hands of Darth Vader. That overides anything Insider says. DarthMalus 04:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The novel has no mention of her death actually, it implies Vader searched for her but there is nothing implying he found her. And other canon sources have announced her alive. end of Jedi Dude 11:47, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * It doesnt really matter what they "intended" to do, only what they did in fact do, or in this case, did not do. George Lucas intended for alot of things that never came to pass. as a matter of course, we do not define things by what they "could have been", nor do we remember them as such. I don't see what the confusion is. Yes, it may have been "intended" for her to die, as in the novel, but she did not, in fact die. It has been established for quite some time now that deleted scenes are NOT canon. The final death blow to the idea that she died at Vader's hands is eually well established, to those fans worth there salt. There are LEVELS of canon, a hierarchy if you will, and one which the films sit squarely atop. These levels exist precisely becuase of problems like this, incongruencies. The film is of a higher level of canon than the book, tehrefore, if the two say contradictory things, the film wins.

Image
I'm not likely to be the first one to bring this up, but doesn't anyone else think that this page deserves a much better looking image? Google directs to dozens of much better looking images with higher resolutions. Many of them probably aren't copyrighted...would it be too hard to get around changing the images if we got permission from whatever site we borrowed the new one from?
 * That'd be perfectly fine (though you'd have to sign up and get an account before uploading a picture.) &mdash; Silly Dan  00:13, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, I'll fix it. I found tons of pics. --Master Starkeiller 10:34, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * The new image kicks ass - TopAce
 * Yeah, I chose it 'cause she has such a cool stance. I had found bigger ones, but this was the best. --Master Starkeiller 11:12, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * This scene is not canon, as Shaak Ti is later seen alive (though in hologram form) during a Jedi Council meeting, and is presumed to be at all meetings in the film, albeit off-screen.

This is false: When the Council meeting on Kashyyyk is shown (in holographic form) all of the Council members EXCEPT Shaak Ti are present.
 * Nope. Watch ROTS again - Shaak Ti is present - you can see the hologram when Yoda's talking to them on Kashyyyk. QuentinGeorge 05:06, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Predatory? Poisonous?
I removed the sentences about her species being predators who were thought to be poisonous, because the Togruta article makes them seem more like zebras than tigers. Please put them back in if I'm out to lunch on this. &mdash; Silly Dan 21:36, 23 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't know about being predators, but they are poisonous. --Master Starkeiller 12:05, 4 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * They are predators, but they are not poisonous. Ultimate Alien Anthology states that that they favor eating a creature called a thimiar while it's still alive. The thimiars give post-mortem muscle spasms that appear to be the work of poison. The Togrutu themselves are not poisonous, and they have no idea how the rumor started. -- SFH 06:10, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Crap! I fell into the trap! I remembered having read something about poison from an RpG book but I didn't remember it was a rumor because of their second row of teeth and all that! --Master Starkeiller 12:39, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, that makes sense. Thanks. &mdash; Silly Dan 00:30, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Lightsaber style
Do we know what style of combat Shaak Ti prefered? In Star Wars: Clone Wars, she appeared to favor a lot of jumps, leading me to say Ataru. -- SFH 06:10, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)


 * yeah, i think its ataru too... cause she is always jumping and doin acrobatics in all the comics where she appears


 * The ROTS novel indicates that she uses Makashi. It compared Obi-Wan's Soresu style to other Jedi's. According to the book soresu lacked the boldness of Anakin's style, the ferociousness of Windu's or Depa Billaba's, nor does it have the stylish grace of a Shaak Ti or Dooku, or does it resemble the whirlwind of "destruction" of a Yoda, but it power lies in its simplicity. Though it doesn't mention Shaak Ti particular style, she is grouped together with Dooku who is a known Makashi user. The other people's form's are classified though Ti is in Dooku's Makashi group. --Darthsith19 02:04, 12 Jan 2006 (UTC)


 * im readin the novel right now, so i'll see...


 * It WAS said that Obi-Wan's Soresu was not as elegant as Dooku's or Shaak Ti's style, but it was not mentioned directly that she was a Makashi-user. If she had been, how could she have survived the Geonosis Arena battle? Makashi is not against blaster projectiles coming from all possible directions. - TopAce 22:34, 1 February 2006 (UTC)


 * it was possible that shaak ti was able deflect all the blaster projectiles in the arena because of her hollow montrals in her horns, which allowed her to fight exceptionally well in crowds, even though it was possible that she is a makashi practioner. And, makashi isnt completely useless against projectiles, Form VI, Niman, was the worst, and many who used that form died in the arena...(Trebor Coleman's death for instance)...
 * Niman is not bad in itself against blaster projectiles, but it WAS weak against Jango Fett's precise shots. As for Shaak Ti, as far as I know, her horns help her in navigation. I don't know that much about it, so I may be mistaken. Still, until there is no canon source which states that Shaak Ti was a Makashi user, the best we can have is that "it is possible that..." - TopAce 10:48, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
 * the ATOTC Visual Dictionary said that Shaak Ti fights her best in group combat, and the hollow montrals in her horns allow her to sense the space around her ultrasonically --Master Sage 22:30, 5 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Just because someone is a Makashi-user that doesn't necessarily mean that they wouldn't survive a blaster combat, no matter how big. Besides, Shaak Ti might be a practioner of Makashi and some other style, as well. --Gurbiza 08:45, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I added a subsection to BtS about this issue, I hope you like it. - TopAce 15:18, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Image happy
Does anyone else think that there may be too many images on this page? I would go ahead and take them off, but I know that some people can get very attached to images, so does anyone have any suggestions? -- SFH 03:48, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree. Take down the first clone wars cartoon image. Also, the last image should be on the other side of the page (left, right, left, etc.)--DannyBoy7783 04:54, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, it's the second to last image that is out of order.--DannyBoy7783 04:54, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Tell me you aren't permanently removing those images... you can move them to any of the galleries. - TopAce 10:49, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Her Lightsaber
Her Lightsaber is really cool. I saw it in BOSTON! It was scratched too which means shes been in some battles with it.

You saw her lightsaber in Boston....you lucky devil you- The Pooper

Confirmation that Shaak Ti survived the Raid on the Jedi Temple.
If one of the recent Insider issues wasn't enough, check out the "Secrets of Star Wars 07: Greatly Exaggerated". Standing right in the middle of the picture is... yes, you guessed it, Shaak Ti herself. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 12:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Do you know if you can upload the picture. I think it would add greatly to the article.--Dil 22:35, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
 * It would be nice, but no, we can't post images from Hyperspace. -- Ozzel 22:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Is it really official? Its just concept art, not official yet.Purpilia 02:44, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * its official alright Jedi Dude 14:41, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, even if the image wasn't official, we know that Shaak Ti survived the Raid on the Jedi Temple. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 15:10, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Lucas said otherwise. Too bad. Non-canon. "G (George Lucas) canon is absolute canon. This category includes the six films, the deleted scenes from the films, the novelizations of the films, the radio dramas based on the films, the film scripts, and any material found in any other source (published or not) that comes directly from George Lucas himself. G canon outranks all other forms of canon."
 * Where did Lucas say that Shaak Ti didn't surive the Raid on the Jedi Temple? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 15:02, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Does it matter? Apparently GL changed his mind, though this dead character not really being dead is getting VERY old and needs to stop. The only we really need to know is Darth Vader is stronger and wipes the sorry jedi out. she likely dies at Vader's hands anyway so her fate is known but not canonized.
 * Save her fate for Darth Vader to kill her, I don't mind! It's correct that this "not really dead" nonsense needs to stop, though.Vymer 14:09, 25 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't recall the image being specifically referred to as Shaak Ti. I think we just assummed that it was. The databank still says: "The temple was gutted with laser fire as agents of the newly proclaimed Emperor brought the "treasonous" Jedi to justice. Shaak Ti was believed to be killed in the onslaught." I also don't think Vader would have allowed Shaak Ti to escape, and Shaak Ti would have stayed and fought. It is her nature to do so. It may be her, it may not, but we don't know. DarthMalus 22:52, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The Official Site implies it is Shaak Ti; the caption states: "Reports of some demises turned out to be inaccurate...". Additionally, Shaak Ti's Databank entry hasn't been updated since October 2005, so it wouldn't reflect later sources stating her survival - \\Captain Kwenn// &mdash; Ahoy! 22:56, 3 February 2007 (UTC)