Wookieepedia:Requests for user rights/RFA archive/Rmfitzgerald50

Rmfitzgerald50 (14/1/0)
Two week deadline from first request, voting ends 28 July 2006.

Support

 * 1) Sikon [ Talk ] 09:17, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) Adamwankenobi Talk to me!  My home. 12:14, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) Darth Culator 12:16, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) KEJ 12:28, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 5) Just had to do the oppose thing. :P &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 12:31, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 6) If he wants it, I think he'd do well with it. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 12:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 7) Azizlight 12:58, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 8) SFH 15:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 9) Ozzel 17:58, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 10) He'll make a fine administrator. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 11) Kuralyov 19:54, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 12) TopAce 20:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC) I don't remember any of his specific edits, but I know he is an active contributor.
 * 13) --Eyrezer 01:11, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 14) Support. I had started to nominate him before, but he had not reached his six months yet.  I checked again a few days ago, saw that he had reached the six months, so sent him an email asking if he would be willing.  That was all about the same time that the recent controversy broke out, so we decided to wait for a while.  We both had concerns that maybe now was not the proper time...similar to what Sparqman is voicing now.  Then Sikon comes along and nominates him anyway.  :p  I think we can all handle moving on with WP life even while the controversy is winding down.  WhiteBoy 18:05, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 15)  StarNeptune Talk to me! 18:51, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 16) Sentry &#91;Talk&#93; 03:57, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 17) One of the best users on this Wiki and easy going. MyNz - Zainal 3:30, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 18) I'll take him in, but after this we will need to tighten things up. -- Riffsyphon1024 05:22, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) Noooo...he can't be allowed to have any power!! NEVEEEER! &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 12:31, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) Nothing against him, but I think we need less admins. As a group, we have little in the ways of common goals or methods, as displayed by the recent Karen Traviss issue. I think we should get our house in order before inviting in new admins. --SparqMan 20:14, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Neutral/comments

 * Has been a great help with templates and other wiki hacking. Also, is permanently on IRC and spots vandals on sight. Six months have passed (registered December 30, 2005). - Sikon [ Talk ] 09:17, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Once the 6 months were up, it was just a matter of whether Sikon, Jaymach, or I would nominate him first. The fact that he disagrees with me on a regular basis is a good thing. -- Darth Culator 12:16, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, hell yeah. -- SFH 15:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * SparqMan, I believe the problem is that we have too little administrators. The administrators are Wookieepedia's police force. As we get new members&mdash;and vandals&mdash;the number should increase to keep things in line. Look at the new Crumb vandals and what they've done to this site. Recently, it was SFH and myself vs. a move vandal. At the time, SFH wasn't an administrator. That was a period of time when there were no administrators logged on, and all SFH and I could do was move the pages back. We were powerless. Powerless is a good way to describe it. Without many administrators, Wookieepedia won't last. Image if every known vandal got a new account on one day when no administrators were around and they decided to inflict as much vandalism as possible. Wookieepedia would be devastated. But when an administrator would come along, they could easily fix it, even if it took some time. Sure, stoping vandalism isn't the sole purpose for administrators. But the more administrators, the better. If we had a large amount of administrators, Wookieepedia would be strengthened. The point is, we shouldn't be saying "we have too many administrators". We should be saying "we have too little administrators". RMF should become an administrator. I believe he will do an excellent job. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:29, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * And one other thing: Having more administrators would help "get our house in order". Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:33, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Vandalism will always happen, no matter how many administrators exist. And they will be cleaned up with relatively the same speed. Deeper issues like the ones related to the Karen Traviss quotation page are linked directly to the relationship between Wookieepedia and its administrators, and the lack of expectations therein. --SparqMan 20:38, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I believe someone said that we shouldn't express our opinions of authors and other people. That should become a policy, and it would help end that issue and issues like it. As for the vandalism part, you're missing my point. The SFH and myself versus the move vandal incident is an example of how more administrators are needed. If an administrator had been there when it started, the vandal would have been easily banned and the pages (which would have been less due to less time) moved back. Vandalism can never be prevented, but it can be stopped the second after it begins. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:42, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Everybody should hang out on IRC more. You'd see how reasonable RMF is. It's infuriating. Always telling us to be nice to anons and assume good faith and not be cabalistic (There Is No Cabal) and stuff. How are people supposed to rule with an iron fist with guys like him around? In fact, maybe I should change my vote now. -- Darth Culator 23:58, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * There's almost always one or more admins on #wookieepedia: and if none of them are active, Wikia staffers who also wield the mighty banstick are usually on #wikia. In fact, since Wikia staffers have CheckUser powers allowing them to determine the IP address ranges of persistent vandals with recurring sockpuppets, they actually have slightly more power in that respect than our admins.  Failing that, many of the admins have some form of contact information on their user page, or can be emailed through the "Email this user" link.  The upshot of this is that even if all of the admins are apparently not patrolling the recent changes page, we are rarely, if ever powerless to prevent vandalism.  Thus, I don't think that merely wanting to catch vandals is really a good reason to seek admin status or support an existing nomination.  Having said that, I think RMF would be fair and diligent in the various other duties of an administrator, (as will SFH, who I forgot to vote for), so I'm keeping my vote at support. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 00:47, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * You're right, Silly Dan, about wanting to catch vandals is not a good reason to be an administrator. It's just one of the duties that administrators perform. Nonetheless, I still believe that we need more administrators, no matter what. RMF will probably get to be the latest addition. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 01:08, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Indeed, RMF is more of a techie than a vandal-buster, he's more into "user experience" things. Right now, he has to prepare changes to MediaWiki: and other protected pages on his sup pages and ask admins to edit them. These edits are positive, and I think that we, and the Wookieepedia look and feel, will benefit from his adminship. Having said that, I sincerely plead SparqMan to at least retract his vote and abstain, especially given that he has nothing against RMF personally. He won't be just "yet another admin", that's for sure. (Apropos, people, if everyone hanged out on IRC regularly, there would indeed be no cabal, as it is the case on Uncyclopedia.) - Sikon [ Talk ] 16:15, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * RMF is always in the chat, chewing us out voicing his opinions on whether one of us admins in the chat was too harsh on a ban, fooling around with MediaWiki templates and getting one of us to do his bidding fix it, pointing out vandalism for us, and does an all around good job of making the rest of us in the chat look bad helping us clamp down on vandalism and improve the site. (I'm just joking around with the strike through stuff. Love ya, RMF!)  StarNeptune Talk to me! 18:51, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, I was going to put off writing this until the last minute, but something came up and it now appears likely that I will be traveling when this is closed. First off, I'd like to thank Sikon for the nomination, it's really an honor, as well as a couple of you who have brought it up with me in the past (you know who you are :-). Also, I appreciate the favorable interpretations of my IRC ranting/complaining, my template/MediaWiki: experimentation, etc. Re: SparqMan's objection, I think he does make a valid point: the recent KT VfD/situation has been enlightening in showing the need for, at some level, a coherent admin policy. In particular, I have noticed some nascent wheel warring, which is somewhat troubling, as well as some inter-admin personal attacks. We need to develop a policy regarding these issues, and holding off on more admins until we have reached that point is perfectly understandable. That this RfA will fail really isn't a big deal to me; in fact, I'm pretty comfortable where I am now as just another registered user. :-) Thanks for all the feedback/support, RMF 02:41, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I am a doppelgänger, will I be a wookieepedian no longer. BIue-one 11:41, 31 July 2006 (UTC)