Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations

 This page is for the nomination of "comprehensive articles." For a list of "comprehensive articles," see Category:Wookieepedia comprehensive articles.


 * Comprehensive article nominations history
 * Comprehensive article nominations archiving checklist

What is a "comprehensive article?"

A "comprehensive article" is an article that contains all information regarding the topic. Often, "comprehensive articles" cannot reach Featured or Good Article status due to their limited content. This process is intended to recognize articles that contain all relevant canon information, yet are still under the 250 word limit required for a Good Article. The purpose of this is twofold&mdash;firstly, to help users distinguish what is a stub, and what is merely a short article with no further relevant material to be added, and, more importantly, to highlight for the reader when they are reading something that has been judged definitely "comprehensive"&mdash;that is, a guarantee to the reader that whatever they are reading contains the sum total of all available content.

Nominations and promotions of the Comprehensive article process are overseen by a collective of users known as the "EduCorps," which is made up of the Inquisitorius, the AgriCorps, and various other experienced users who are considered qualified to adequately judge the nominated material.

Lucasfilm Ltd. and its many licensees continue to expand the Star Wars universe. Since new information might become available, it may be necessary to revoke a "comprehensive article's" status. A forum will be used to nominate articles that have fallen out-of-date. Members of the EduCorps will then post a warning template on that page, and a grace period of one week will be instituted in which the article can be improved. If there is a significant amount of new information, it is likely that once updated, the article will become eligible for Good article status, and thereby ineligible for Comprehensive article status.

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An article must&hellip;


 * 1) &hellip;be well-written and detailed.
 * 2) &hellip;be unbiased, non-point of view.
 * 3) &hellip;be sourced with all available sources and appearances.
 * 4) &hellip;follow the Manual of Style, Layout Guide, and all other policies on Wookieepedia. This is, of course, within reason. If a topic only has a very limited degree of content that cannot be divided up into the relevant article sections, it is not required that it follow the Layout Guide precisely. This is to be judged on a case-by-case basis.
 * 5) &hellip;following the review process, be stable, i.e., does not change significantly from day to day and is not the subject of ongoing edit wars. This does not apply to vandalism and protection or semi-protection as a result of vandalism.
 * 6) &hellip;not be tagged with any sort of improvement tags (i.e. more sources, expand, etc).
 * 7) &hellip;have no redlinks.
 * 8) &hellip;have all relevant canon information presented.
 * 9) &hellip;be completely referenced for all available material and sources. See Sourcing for more information. While this is not required for an article possessing a singular source, it is encouraged, as it provides both uniformity and a good infrastructure should the topic be referenced in any future materials.
 * 10) &hellip;have all quotes and images sourced.
 * 11) &hellip;provide at least one relevant quote on the article if available.
 * 12) &hellip;include a "Behind the scenes" section for in-universe articles.
 * 13) &hellip;counting the introduction, the article body, and "Behind the scenes" material, must not exceed 250 words in length (not including captions, quotes, or headers, etc). Any articles exceeding the limit should be taken to the Good article nominations page for consideration.
 * 14) &hellip;if the nominated article reaches 200 words or greater, the nominator must either provide an intro or draft an intro and provide a link to the revision in the nomination, showing that the intro does not elevate the article over 250 words. Exceptions can be made for articles wherein the majority of the text is in the "Behind the scenes" section.

How to nominate:


 * 1) First, nominate an article you find is worthy of comprehensive status, putting it at the bottom of the list below. Nominated articles must meet all thirteen requirements stated above.
 * 2) Add CAnom at the top of the article you are nominating.
 * 3) Be sure to place sign in the "Nominated by" line when the nomination is posted for voting.
 * 4) Others will object to the nomination if they disagree that the article is good enough; they will then supply reasons for doing so, and ways to improve the article in accordance with the established rules.
 * 5) Nominators and supporters will adjust the article until the objectors (with reasonable objections) are satisfied. Objectors may also make alterations&mdash;if there is any reason for contention on a given point, it should be settled in a civil manner in the nomination field itself.
 * 6) Users may not vote on their own articles.
 * 7) There is no limit to the amount of nominations a given user can submit at any given time.

How to vote:


 * 1) Before doing anything, be sure to read the article completely, keeping a sharp eye out for mistakes.
 * 2) Afterward, compare the article to the criteria listed above, and then either support or object the article's nomination.
 * 3) *If you object, please supply concrete reasons for doing so, and how it can be improved.
 * 4) As stated above, any objections will be looked upon by the nominator, supporters, and anyone willing to improve the article, and action will be taken to please the objectors. Do not strike other users' objections; it is up to the objector to review the changes and strike if they are satisfied.
 * 5) There are several ways in which an article can receive the required number of votes. Within a 48-hour period of nomination, only EduCorps votes will count towards the total, although anyone may choose to vote in that window. If two members of the EduCorps support a nomination in that window, and there are no outstanding objections, the article can be considered a "Comprehensive article" and be tagged with the template 48 hours after the initial nomination.  The talk page will also be tagged with the CA template. When the 48 hours are up, any user's votes will contribute towards the total. If one EduCorps member has voted for an article after a week, three regular votes will be required. After the 48 hour period, an article can still also pass with just two EduCorps votes.
 * 6) Once a nomination is successful, it will be placed on the Comprehensive article list. Instructions on how to archive nominations, successful or otherwise, can be found here. Anyone can archive a nomination&mdash;just make sure it has the correct number of votes, has been nominated for at least a week (or 48 hours if there are two EC votes), and that there are absolutely no outstanding objections. If you are not sure how to do this, just ask, and someone will likely be more than willing to help you. Also, if you think you can slip one past us, think again&mdash;someone is always watching you.

All nominations will be considered idle and are subject to instantaneous removal by EduCorps members if objections are not addressed, or at least not answered, after a period of 1 week.

Please remember to archive your nomination beforehand if you plan on taking it to the Good Article Nominations page.

Battle of Metalorn (Imperial Period)

 * Nominated by: 501st  dogma ( talk ) 18:49, June 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Another for Warfare

(1 ECs/2 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) Seems a little run-onish, but maybe that's just me. Good job. Cade   Calrayn  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 23:25, June 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) *If so, I should probaly split up Siege of Sy Myrth, as its even more run-onish :) 501st  dogma ( talk ) 23:28, June 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 19:40, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * 4)  Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg  (Greetings)  22:48, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Rubedo
 * 2) * "It was part of the Sy Myrthian Insurrection, when Imperial forces attempted to drive the remnants of the Condeferate army out of the regions of Sy Myrth and the Kreetan Narrows after the Confederate's defeat during the Clone Wars at the hands of the Galactic Republic, which had become the Empire after the Clone Wars." This is a run-on in the grammatically incorrect sense, an appositive within an appositive. You do have to reword it.
 * 3) **Done. 501st  dogma ( talk ) 12:37, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) * Sy Myrth is a planet, not a region like the Narrows, so the context there doesn't work. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 00:40, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * 5) **Better? 501st  dogma ( talk ) 12:37, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * 6) ***This way, the Narrows now have no context.
 * 7) ****Fixed.
 * 8) * You mention this was after the Battle of Diado in this article, but not in the Diado article. Furthermore, in the Metalorn battle article, you don't mention that was followed by the Siege of Sy Myrth. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 17:01, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * 9) **Remedied in both.
 * 10) * "It was part of the Sy Myrthian Insurrection, when Imperial forces attempted to drive the remnants of the Condeferate army out of the regions of Sy Myrth and the Kreetan Narrows after the Confederate's defeat during the Clone Wars at the hands of the Galactic Republic, which had become the Empire after the Clone Wars." While we're talking about the Battle of Diado: grammatically incorrect run-on. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 17:01, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * 11) **Fixed.

Comments
 * Just a tip, since I write articles like this frequenntly, you're too married to these phrase positions. I don't like the rewording rule, myself, but so long as it's going to be enforced with votes... Diado, Metalorn, and Sy Myrth are virtually identically constructed. You introduce the battle as between the Empire (Formerly the Republic!) and CIS holdouts, then explain the Sy Myrth Insurrection using virtually the same nested appositive, then say the 12 was involved. Try shifting around the order of those basic pieces at least. How about introducing the battle, then have the next sentence bring in the 12th and Dodonna? This allows for a lead-in, probably within that same sentence, for the Empire that triumphed against the CIS in the Clone Wars as the Republic. Holdouts were at Metalorn, hence the battle was fought. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 17:01, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've reworded Metalorn. I'll have to do that a bit to Siege as well. Thanks for the review. 501st  dogma ( talk ) 18:03, June 25, 2012 (UTC)

Founder's Day

 * Nominated by: NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 23:39, June 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Happy Birthday, Wookieepedia! :D

(1 ECs/2 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) 501st  dogma ( talk ) 23:46, June 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2)  Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg  (Greetings)  22:55, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) ' ℬiggestℒeo ' (ℳeeting ℛoom) 19:43, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Object
 * Shouldn't the BtS be sourced? Or am I completely wrong? Cade   Calrayn  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 20:30, July 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * It doesn't need to be because it is self-sourcing, but. as long as it already has refs, I don't really mind much. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 07:42, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Comments
 * WP:ENT! NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 11:04, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm going on a week-long enforced vacation. Any objections left will be addressed upon my return. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 17:45, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

Jumerian

 * Nominated by: NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 00:23, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: More than likely a pseudo-mistake we made that became canon. Didn't know they were a species until the CSWE had a one sentence article on them that matched ours from 2006 verbatim but for some procedural tweaks. Fun facts.

(2 ECs/2 Users/4 Total)
Support
 * 1) 501st  dogma ( talk ) 12:07, June 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) What would a lamp sing about?-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg  (Greetings)  22:58, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) *I dunno. What would socks sing about? NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 07:47, July 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) Hooray --Eyrezer (talk) 11:05, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * 5) Maybe it's happy, EJ. Cade   Calrayn  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 20:32, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) An article for the singing lamp would be nice.  501st  dogma ( talk ) 12:39, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) *That's what I get for nomming something the day I wrote it. Missing stuff. :\ The article already existed, actually. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 16:40, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) Great to see another guest nomination from you, Naru! A couple of points: the quote makes clear that the lamp was a wedding gift. Can you add this to the article? Is there any context that can be added from the Essential Atlas' placement of their homeworld or NR membership? Cheers, --Eyrezer (talk) 22:04, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) *Added the wedding part ("I left that out?!"). By context from their system's placement, do you mean stating who controlled their native system? NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 12:07, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * 5) **I saw that on a status article, so I just went with "yes." NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 17:10, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * 6) I'd ditch the line about Humans being dominant in the Core, since it seems a bit superfluous. Otherwise, looks great. ~ Savage BOB sig.png 14:53, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * 7) *I was basing that off the map that had the Sharu civilization on it. The inset shows a small Human area of influence that included the area around Alderaan, curved downward, which would include Jumeria. Even if it was a distinction of about fifty years, I'd say that's relevant since it was not yet the Republic. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 17:10, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Comments
 * Guest for WP:AS! NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 11:07, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm going on a week-long enforced vacation. Any objections left will be addressed upon my return. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 17:45, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

Four Dimensions

 * Nominated by: NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 15:46, June 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: "LEEEEEET THE REBELS. LEEEEEET THE REBELS IN. Let me tell you one thing! (LEEEET THE REBELS) I want you to siiiing along with the "Four Dimensions"! Hey! And open up your heart! AWWWWW! Come on! (REBEEELS!) And let in Rebels. Ev-e-ry Day~! LEEEEEEET THE REBELS. LEEEEEEEEEEET THE REBELS IN. THE REEEEBELS IIIN.~

(2 ECs/1 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) 501st  dogma ( talk ) 16:54, June 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2)  Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg  (Greetings)  01:11, July 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) &mdash;  17:13, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

Object Comments
 * 1) You should probably mention the information that it was released by the time of the Rebellion era in the body of the article. -- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg  (Greetings)  12:43, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) *Taken care of. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 16:54, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) I'm assuming that since it's a single-source article, it doesn't have to be sourced? Cade   Calrayn  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 20:33, July 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) *It's not required on the CAN, no. Gal-icon.jpg  OLIOSTER  (talk) 21:10, July 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:ENT! NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 11:04, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm going on a week-long enforced vacation. Any objections left will be addressed upon my return. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 17:46, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

Battle of the Gizer system

 * Nominated by: NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 23:22, June 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: In which a duck is dissected.

(1 ECs/1 Users/2 Total)
Support
 * 1) Looks good. 501st  dogma ( talk ) 20:41, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2)  Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg  (Greetings)  12:40, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Object

Comments
 * I'm going on a week-long enforced vacation. Any objections left will be addressed upon my return. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 17:46, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

BTL-S3B Y-wing starfighter

 * Nominated by: 501st  dogma ( talk ) 14:45, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:Found this in Warfare, decided to nom

(1 ECs/1 Users/2 Total)
Support
 * 1) Did a few minor fixes. Good work. Gal-icon.jpg  OLIOSTER  (talk) 14:33, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2)  Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg  (Greetings)  12:38, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Object

Comments

Annexation of the northern Hutt territories

 * Nominated by: 501st  dogma ( talk ) 14:52, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:Trasemene got too long for CAN, so Annexation beat him to being nommed

(1 ECs/1 Users/2 Total)
Support
 * 1) NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 11:17, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2)  Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg  (Greetings)  12:36, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Object
 * I see the map and why you thought to capitalize "northern," but that is not a proper noun. It was merely the start of the sentence. There is no political area called the "Northern Hutt territories." The Imperials claimed Hutt territories that were in the north. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 07:05, July 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, moving the page to Annexation of the northern Hutt territories. There, done. 501st  dogma ( talk ) 12:23, July 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Judging from the map arrow pointing to it, I would be inclined to say that the annexation was considered part of the Insurrection, so the "post" in the infobox would be unnecesary. However, if the prose says the annexation was "after" the insurrection then that line shoukd be removed from the infobox entirely. It was either part of the conflict or it was not. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 06:15, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Trasemene ended the Insurrection, but the annexation was a direct result of the Insurrection. Would'nt it be okay to leave the "Post-Insurrection" part because it was an important factor? 501st  dogma ( talk ) 11:57, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * No, because it was not part of the insurrection itself. It was a big chunk of the aftermath, as in after the conflict had already concluded. That infobox field shoulld not have "pre" or "post" anything. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 18:51, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Got rid of Post, added Reconquest of the Rim as that was the general conflict. 501st  dogma ( talk ) 18:59, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * That works. Now the Reconquest of the Rim needs to be explicitly mentioned since that name is canonical. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 20:33, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Better? 501st  dogma ( talk ) 20:38, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * It was going to be a quick fix, so I did it myself. I ended up changing the article's structuring more thanI wanted too in the process though, how things are introduced. The issue was that both the Insurrection and the annexation were part of the Reconquest. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 11:17, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks for changing it. 501st  dogma ( talk ) 11:21, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

Comments

Lightsaber Techniques Painting

 * Nominated by: Gal-icon.jpg  OLIOSTER  (talk) 01:20, July 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Another rescue....

(1 ECs/1 Users/2 Total)
Support
 * 1) I changed "seven" to "eight" in the body as there's actualy eight forms on the poster. Otherwise, looks fine.  501st  dogma ( talk ) 12:19, July 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) *Hah, guess I should pay more attention. Perhaps I should note in the BTS that the cards description says there are seven? Gal-icon.jpg  OLIOSTER  (talk) 12:33, July 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) **That would be good. 501st  dogma ( talk ) 13:10, July 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) Love it.&mdash;  21:28, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Object Comments
 * 1) I think it would be a good idea to mention each of the lightsaber forms by name. -- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg  (Greetings)  12:26, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) *If you can suggest a good source for all their names, I will do so. Gal-icon.jpg  OLIOSTER  (talk) 14:42, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) **The Essential Guide to Warfare, pages 19, 21. There's a picture on 20. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 17:27, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) ***Done. Gal-icon.jpg  OLIOSTER  (talk) 19:39, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * 5) You should probably mention what the Aurebesh text on the top and side says, but I can't seem to translate it into anything that makes complete sense.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  01:24, July 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * 6) *I'm not entirely sure what it says. It starts out making sense but then they start using the wrong aurebesh letters. I believe the top is supposed to say "The Seven Forms of Lightsaber Combat" and the left side is supposed to say "Jedi Techniques" but some of the letters are all wrong according to our Aurebesh article. Suggestions? Gal-icon.jpg  OLIOSTER  (talk) 22:04, July 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * 7) **Hmmm, maybe a quick mention in the BTS saying that the aurebesh is close to these phrases and doesn't make sense the way it was.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  04:17, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * 8) ***Good? Gal-icon.jpg  OLIOSTER  (talk) 20:59, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Serrian salt

 * Nominated by:  Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  04:26, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Dex's Diner!

(1 ECs/2 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) But is it kosher? XD&hellip;&mdash;  06:00, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) 501st  dogma ( talk ) 11:02, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) <- Omicron (Leave a message at the BEEP! ) 00:45, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

Object

Comments

Racsan break

 * Nominated by: NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 21:12, July 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: I like it when I actualy find my old projects.

(1 ECs/1 Users/2 Total)
Support
 * 1) Nice work.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg  (Greetings)  01:29, July 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) 501st  dogma ( talk ) 21:48, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

Object

Comments
 * I'm going on a week-long enforced vacation. Any objections left will be addressed upon my return. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 17:47, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

Ho'Din-style veggie omelet

 * Nominated by:  Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  01:54, July 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: One Ho'Din-style veggie omelet for ...

(0 ECs/1 Users/1 Total)
Support
 * 1) NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 05:04, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

Object
 * Is there some sort of battle or event that could be linked to for the destruction of Dex's Diner? Menkooroo (talk) 14:55, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think so, I believe Dexter went into hiding and the Empire demolished his restaurant, which was later rebuilt and run by his waitress, Hermione Bagwa.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  16:46, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * In the book, Ferus Olin goes to it and finds it in ruins, IIRC. I dont think the books ever delve into what happened, aside from saying the Empire did it and specifying that isn't really relevant to the food he served. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 17:43, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank Naru, I don't have the book and wasn't too sure of what happened.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  18:06, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

Comments
 * Is not the use of the name Ho'Din an explicit reference? --Eyrezer (talk) 11:39, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, it probably was intended to be one, and the only reason I worded it that way in the BTS was because that's the way Naru did his Diner articles originally. I assumed that someone made objections saying that it was speculation to assume they were the same. However, I have checked all the Diner nominations that I could find and none have any mention of this. I'll go with your judgment.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  12:53, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know what you mean by none, but those are all mine. However, it does appear that a lot of the ones written since thos have left it out. Since we lifted the stringent ban on referencing "speculative" naming in things (remember that silliness?), the compromise has been to say that we don't know for sure that the author named it so intentionally. Most of these are a rather obvious, like calling it "Sernpidalian," but there is also the Gonzo yellow cheese, where it's pretty ambiguous whether he was going for the pre-existing IU term. He may well have mean the Muppet. Stating flatly that it was a reference to Ho'Din requires attribution that says he was going for that, or a blanket source that says references to planets and species were intentional, which doesn't exist. It would therefore, officially, be speculation to say so in the article without qualifiction. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 17:43, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * I more meant that no one asked you to do it that way in any of the nominations, sorry for the confusion. I see your point, and will wait for Eyrezer's reply before changing anything.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  18:06, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * But let us be clear, the problem is attributing inspiration developed for references to out-of-universe ideas or items (i.e., are the Chironians named after the centaur Chiron). That kind of information would never go in the body anyway. For in-universe naming such as this, I see no reason not to mention it in the in-universe section. I haven't been involved in reviewing Naru's other articles, but, for instance, I think that to not mention Boontaspice in the IU section of Boontaspiced mustard is a mistake. --Eyrezer (talk) 21:08, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yikes. I whole-heartedly agree with Eyrezer. If we had a source that said "Joe was able to speak Guudrian," it wouldn't be speculation to say that the language of the Guudrian species is intended here, even though there's no explicit note that "Guudrian is the language of the Guudrian species." We can use common sense here. ~ Savage BOB sig.png 21:22, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * So should I merely link to the species/item in the body of the article or should I provide some context where possible? Also, what should I do about Revwien coleslaw which I already have as a CA?-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  23:41, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * For the sake of clarity, since do I find our rules a little too sringent as well at times, what is there to say about the omelet in relation to Ho'Din anyway? Was it a recipe created by the Ho'Din? Was it inspired by the Ho'Din and their culture? Was it inspired by the Ho'Din homeworld? Did the creator just like names with apostrophes in them? It's really way too broad a reference to say anything definitive. When you're talking about a language reference to a species, it does not make much sense at all for there to be any other explaination than "that species spoke this language," which puts it in the realm of duck testing since there is only one solution. The Mynershi do not speak a language named after their foes, the Psadan. What is the benefit of saying, vaguely, that the Ho'Din were related in some way to the omelet IU&mdash;without explicitness to reference&mdash;as opposed to saying, still vaguely, that the author probably took the name from the pre-existing species in the BTS? We have a reasonableness clause when the intention of the IU reference is clear and obvious, as a language, but where do we draw the line when the inspiration of the use of the word was primarily meta? A lot of these foods, like tailring bacon, were named so because the author wanted to include references to pre-existing Star Wars lore. It was not because he was establishing any definitive reason for the food to have that name or connecting it to thatculture. Dex's slider menu is comprised of dishes established as inspired by time he spent on the invoked worlds, but if that explicit backstory did not exist, would it be appropriate to say "this food came from the planet of Coruscant?" "Gonzo" is an easy thing to point out again: a slang term I only knew about personally because I had read a single Jedi Quest novel ages ago and it reminded me of the Muppet. We opened the floodgates on this sort of referencing a crack&mdash;formerly there was to be no reference whatsoever&mdash; and I fear if we keep on inching it open further than it already is, larger and larger speculative leaps will be considered acceptable and the information actually in the source will be less prominent than what we have inferred "reasonably." What's more important? That it was related to a species or that it was served in some restaurant in the galaxy? I may find it too shackling at times&mdash;I just hit up Aaron Allston to confirm that a bleeding Sonic Screwdriver reference was intentional&mdash;but a rule that is bent too much ceases to be a rule and we have the rule for a reason: "The threshold for inclusion in Wookieepedia is whether material is attributable to a reliable published source, not whether it is true." NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 06:32, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, to put it bluntly, we know that it is a Ho'Din-style omelet. I would therefore suggest saying something along the following lines: "A Ho'Din-style veggie omelet was a dish made from vegetables[1] and eggs[2] that was a breakfast food. The omelet was made in the style of the Ho'Din,[1] a nature-loving species known as master botanists.[3] The veggie omelets were served in Dex's Diner..." This way context from canonical sources is added (the Ho'Din are a species, plants and vegetables are their thing), without directly asserting anything beyond the original source (that it is a "Ho'Din-style omelet"). That is how context works. --Eyrezer (talk) 10:43, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * That'd work for me in this case, I suppose. However, I don't think this situation should be construed as cut-and-dry or that we should include it in the IU section every time. If there are so many alternative explanations for why something carries a name, it's best that we not say anything IU. Such as if the species name is merely invoked, not "style," and definitely not planet names, as there are multitudinous reasons for things to carry one of those. Case-by-case analysis is really required. I'll update my articles that would need that after my break. If I don't, please poke me, I've forgotten. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 19:29, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

Battle of Contruum

 * Nominated by: NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 02:05, July 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: In which your desideratum is destroyed.

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 * 1) Wow, they referenced one of these battles again?-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg  (Greetings)  04:31, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) *I KNOW!~ Finding that made my day. :D NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 04:39, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) 501st  dogma ( talk ) 12:09, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

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 * I'm going on a week-long enforced vacation. Any objections left will be addressed upon my return. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 17:47, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

Unidentified Coruscant Police officer (Panza Hondi)

 * Nominated by:  Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  18:36, July 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: WP:VG!

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 * 1) Coruscantfan (Talk) 23:20, July 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) 501st  dogma ( talk ) 12:11, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

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 * Coruscant Police is another name for the Coruscant Police Force, so it should be capitalized in the title.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  18:36, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Stewfruit

 * Nominated by: LelalMekha (talk) 00:01, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Pretty short and silly. But it is comprehensive, after all. :-p

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 * 1) NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 19:07, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) Welcome to the CA food club.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg  (Greetings)  12:57, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) 501st  dogma ( talk ) 12:12, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

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 * 1) You had me at "silly"
 * 2) * There is a Food infobox and you could throw "Fruit" in there somewhere, at least. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 02:12, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) **To be honest, I didn't even know there was a food infobox&mdash;very little food articles seem to have it. There you are anyway. (I'm not sure under which parameter "fruit" could go, though...) --LelalMekha (talk) 09:00, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) ***It's a newer infobox and you're in rare company with people who bring them to status. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 19:07, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * 5) Exiled Jedi
 * 6) * You should mention that it was eaten by Corellians many years before whenever the quote was. We can't assume that they ate the fruit later since the quote only mentions ancient times.
 * 7) **Fixed. --LelalMekha (talk) 09:00, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * 8) * Unless the book mentions Lord Nyax as a bogeyman you should probably refer to him in another manner. -- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  04:42, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * 9) **Actually, that's a perfect use of that word. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 05:02, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * 10) ***Okay, I was thinking that it was some sort of real-life mythological figure that we shouldn't use in the in-universe section.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  05:07, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

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Unidentified Chief of Detectives

 * Nominated by: Coruscantfan (Talk) 01:06, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Who would want this job in a trillion population city?

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 * 1) Looks good save for Exiled's objection. 501st  dogma ( talk ) 12:14, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

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 * 1) Exiled Jedi
 * 2) *You should probably create an article for the Bothan ambassador.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  13:00, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

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Unidentified Coruscant Police officer (Corellian Embassy riot)

 * Nominated by: Coruscantfan (Talk) 03:11, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: A lucky cop

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 * 1) Exiled Jedi
 * 2) *The article is over two hundred words, so you need to section it.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  13:03, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

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Unidentified commander (Coruscant Security Force)

 * Nominated by: Coruscantfan (Talk) 23:07, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Imperial bureaucracy at its finest: the "Request More Troops" form is the same as the "Your Death Certificate" form!

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 * 1) He would have also been executed if he failed at his job due to a lack of troops.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg  (Greetings)  13:06, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) 501st  dogma ( talk ) 12:16, July 14, 2012 (UTC)\

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Battle of Sagma (Imperial Period)

 * Nominated by: 501st  dogma ( talk ) 15:41, July 14, 2012 (UTC)
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