Talk:Twi'lek/Legends

Names for lekku
I've read that the two lekku are named something like Tchang and Tcheng. This is from the Farlander Papers. Can anyone confirm this?21:11, 29 Jul 2005 (UTC) Its Tchin and Tchun

Cleanup
I just cleaned up this article. I would like to have someone else approve the removal of the cleanup template. – Aidje talk 07:21, 30 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * I have edited the page further, and I'm all for it. --Culix 02:26, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Quite a bit of material has been added since my proposal. It's been long enough since my first comment that I will have to look over the article again to see if I still agree. Unfortunately, it will probably be a few days until I have the opportunity to do so. Maybe ext Tuesday. – Aidje talk 08:04, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, someone should remove the tag! :\Padme829 00:04, 20 Oct 2005 (UTC)padme829
 * It has been almost three weeks, so with padme829's vote I am removing the tag. --Culix 06:00, 26 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Mammals or Reptiles?
What are Twi'leks (what vertebral group are they in), they can't be fish or birds, and they can't be amphibians because when Aayla Secura was with Kit Fisko (Kit is an amphibian like Jar Jar Binks), Aayla almost drowned under water and the two had to kiss just so she could bread. So the're two more vertebral group that Twi'leks could be in.
 * They're near-human, so they're mammals. -- Riffsyphon1024 00:47, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * Has it been stated that they're near-human? Curtis Saxton argues that they aren't, since their lekku just make them too different biologically.  On the other hand, since they have some body hair (well, eyebrows) and female Twi'leks have ... ah ... prominent mammary glands, they're at least mammals.  8)  &mdash; Silly Dan  21:55, 14 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * They're not near-humans, since they aren't genetically compatible. (ie no half-human half-Twi'leks). They're humanoid mammals, though. QuentinGeorge 22:22, 14 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Yet, I think is what we should put for no Human/Twi'lek hybrids. Lucas should have official say if they are compatable.-Rob
 * They are neither, they don't have to conform to any definitions of classification . They are alien ya know . I don't think it applies to what few classes we have . There could be millions we don't know of . Dig it .TK867 06:41, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe, but this case obviously fits into one of Earthean categories. - Sikon [ Talk ] 07:34, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
 * With Secura, yes I would certainly have no problem believing shes' a mammal. Fisto on the other hand ...
 * Yeah, Twi'leks are mammals, since they have breasts. In real life, only mammals have breasts. Master Secura

Also notice though how the Twi'lek possess bellybuttons... clearly indicative of mammal growth and birth unless Lucas got careless in makeup if he wanted them to be something other than mammals. HuronKing
 * There's a lot of talk about Kit Fisto going on and remember that he is a Nautolan not a Twi'lek so whatever traits he possesses are not Twi'lek traits. It seems very obvious that Twi'leks are not humans or even near humans. Remember Daeshara'cor on her death bed told Anakin Solo that she could not be cured the same way Corran Horn was because "Humans and Twi'leks have different biologies". But really what reptilian traits do they have? They aren't cold-blooded, they don't have scales like Falleen do, they don't have the reptile eyes with the slit like pupils. Why wouldn't they be mammels?--144.92.215.78 20:36, 12 July 2006 (UTC)Kyp-Durron

They're probably more like Cardassians from Star Trek; Cardassians are reptillian mammals. I suppose the Twi'lek are mammilian amphibians, possibly, or something like that. Also, they may have "breasts," but they may not be mammary glands...they don't seem to have nipples (look at the first pic on the front page, lol). Promus Kaa


 * remember that zsinj used them in project funeral which only affected mammals. this means twi'leks are mammals. Ugluk 19:59, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


 * No nipples? Check out Oola. There's also supposed to be a slight 'wardrobe malfunction' during her confrontation with the Rancor in the original footage of ROTJ, since corrected in the Special Edition.Tocneppil 02:41, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


 * This dicussion is getting interesting.--Darth OblivionComlink[[Image:Oldsith.jpg|20px]] 02:44, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, even on the SE, there is an extremely brief nip-slip as she is tugging on her chain, before she falls into the rancor pit. Chervil [[Image:Mandoinsignia.jpg|20px]] 15:58, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Suggestion and Questions
This page states that every Twi'lek clan had their own city. Did this result from each clan existing separately when primitive Twi'leks lived in caves? Some clarification of this on the page might be nice.

The Twi'lek names section has the sentence "This change was meant to symbolize a way of togetherness." Does this mean symbolizing the togetherness of the individual and their clan, or something else?

Is there a consensus on the name of the Twi'lek language? Some places, such as the starwars.com databank refer to it as "Twi'leki", while other sources (here, as well as the Star Wars RPG) refer to it as "Ryl". Is one name more correct? Are both names acceptable?

Finally, maybe the final sentence on Ryll should be moved to the Ryll page, since it is more of a description of the substance than of the Twi'lek homeworld. --Culix 19:04, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)


 * I think I also recall seeing "Rylothean". "Twi'leki" seemed to be the more common in my experience, but the easiest explanation is that they are three different languages, all spoken by different groups of Twi'leks (geographical variations, different races, or something).--Valin Kenobi 07:02, 11 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Does anyone know why only some male Twi'leks have ears??

Pictures
Does anyone have some more pictures? This is a rather long article to have only one pic in it. Eyrezer


 * I have replaced this image of Ann Gella with this image of Bib Fortuna. I did this as I thought that the infobox image should be full body and since the Rutian Twi'leks are rare I thought that they should not be the primary image. What do people think? -- Volemlock 17:11, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Fortuna should always take precedence over other Twi'lek since he's far and away the most recognizable. I'd suggest making him the first picture visible in the article. 66.167.145.218 07:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Sources for this??
"The range of possible Twi'lek skin colors was extremely diverse, including green, orange, brown, yellow, blue, white, and purple - all in varying shades and hues. Twi'leks of these skin colors were referred to as Ryloth Twi'leks, with green being the most common color. Other types of Twi'leks included the particularly rare turquoise-skinned Twi'leks, known as Rutian Twi'leks, and the rarest red pigment of the Lethan Twi'leks, whose skin color was caused by a mutation of the genetic code.

''A Twi'lek's skin tones varied with lineage, and each color alluded to the kind of worship practiced by the individual's ancestors. Though the Twi'leks all worshipped the same female mother deity, Kakka lekki, the manner in which she was worshipped varied by skin color. Traditionally, purple Twi'leks worshiped Kakka lekki through song, dance, and music, while orange and yellow Twi'leks worshiped with fire and simple pyrotechnics. Blue and white Twi'leks worshiped through study and appreciation of water. Brown and pink Twi'lek worshiped through manipulation of stone, and the green Twi'leks by meditation and contemplation."''

--Where is it stated that everything other than Rutians and Lethans are referred to as "Ryloth Twi'leks"?

--Where does it say green is the most common?


 * Twi'leks of these skin colors were referred to as Ryloth Twi'leks, with green being the most common color. -That's where. --The Nuclear Wookiee 00:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

--The entire paragraph about religion sounds really iffy to me. Source?--Valin Kenobi 07:09, 11 Dec 2005 (UTC)

--I agree. Sounds like bad fanfiction. --Pdixie 20:25, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

-- what exactly is the difference between Rutian and blue?

-- Rutian is the Latin or greek word for blue. It's not Kakka lekki either, it's Kika lekki. Rutian: Blue, Lethan: Red.


 * The article currently has it spelled inconsistently as "Kikalekki" or "Kika'lekki". Does anyone know a source that could at least show that one or the other was officially published? 68.44.13.236 21:40, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Lead in quote
The lead in quote seems to be in rather poor taste. Can we get a different one? -- SFH 20:05, 1 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Come on, what better way to describe a Twi'lek than "females much yum-yum"? --Master Starkeiller 20:13, 1 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * I love the quote ^^ --[[Image:BFguy.gif]]--Inmobilus 21:16, 14 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with the Devaronians opinion... but it is rather creepy, and even slightly specieist...Sorry if I spelled any part of that wrong. -Kath.Hound 22:41, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Their Ears?
Shouldn't it be mentioned somewhere in this article? The males seem to have "normal" human ears, but it seems to me (from what I've seen so far) that for females the cones on the sides of their heads are their "ears". I'm not sure wheter or not this is right, though. Mabye someone else has more information about this?
 * That's just awkward. Why weren't they given normal ears? - Sikon [ Talk ] 07:31, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
 * This is far fetched, but maybe they are color coordinated earpieces on thier headdresses . Just a shot in the dark , not likely but ....TK867 22:41, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Dia Passik doesn't seem to have conical ears.Tocneppil 18:50, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Not to mention forehead bumps; Bib Fortuna and other male Twi'leks seem to have them, but the females don't.Promus Kaa
 * You can't even see Dia Passik's ears.--Darth OblivionComlink[[Image:Oldsith.png|20px]] 18:17, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * That's why I said she doesn't seem to have conical ones -the point being that all the Twi'leks with conical ears have them sticking out of whatever headgear they're wearing (presumably in order to hear clearly). If Dia Passik's ears were conical, she wouldn't have them covered up. It could be the perspective of the illustration, but I'd think that they'd create more of a protuberance beneath the covering than what I'm seeing.Tocneppil 19:01, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, if you look at the Legacy pics of Darth Talon, you can clearly see the cones and she is not wearing any headgear, so that theory is out. Obviously this is a trait specific either to all females (as I have seen no males with them and no females without) or perhaps it is specific to certain clans and regions, much like humans from different parts of the earth have different facial features. Chervil [[Image:Mandoinsignia.jpg|20px]] 15:54, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * One has to wonder how they can hear with no ear openings.-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 23:28, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, it looks like there are lines along the cones, those could be sensory imput openings.Tocneppil 04:17, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Lyn Me doesn't have cones for ears. Does she? I mean, where her head gear should be over her ears it's flat. IG-88 D

Diva Plavalaguna a Twi'lek?
Is the species of Diva Plavalaguna from "The Fifth Element" in anyway cohesive to Twi'leks? Both intergalactic and behind the scenes?

haha, i thought the same. -PitchBlack

--Droideka 12:48, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Teeth
Think we should add that males traditionally (or maybe just often) file their teeth into sharp points? It was mentioned in the Young Jedi Knights Diversity Alliance arc, where Nolaa Tarkona mentioned that it was reserved for the males and she got some sort of thrill out of doing it. It also explains why there's such a difference between the two. --LightWarden 16:55, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Skittles of the GFFA

 * Could we see some pix of the various colors, or maybe state who is which color in the list of prominant twileks? I'm looking for the orange & yellow ones, but not having much luck.Tocneppil 19:00, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

New Main Pic
Who on earth added it? It looks horrible! And we already have a pic of Bib Fortuna! Totema1 02:35, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree, it is pretty poor quality. I reverted it. --beeurd 02:47, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

New Picture?
Could we get a more neutral Image for this artical. prehaps a Male and Female Twi'lek. as to not have this artical seem sexist? 24.241.35.116 01:06, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I am on the look out for a picture like the one you described, can't find any decent quality ones though. --beeurd 16:49, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
 * It's better than our previous one... Totema1 21:11, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Goiter?
Why hasn't enyone mentioned that big weird growth on Bib's neck? What the is that? I refuse to believe that females are supposed to be that hot, but the males are cursed with some huge neck-sack with two little fingers hanging off.

Are there any examples of males without this feature? There have got to be. I seem to remember some male characters in Rogue Squadron's comics series, but I don't recall whether they did or not. Maybe it's some sort of illness or cancerous thing? Or like skin tags on humans, not dangerous, but effing digusting.

Comments? Seems an important Appearance note to make. i know! what the heck is that thing? Quinlanfan 00:06, 29 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I haven't seen many males with it. In fact, many Twi'lek males are much better looking than Fortuna.-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 22:46, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Life Span
Quinlanfan 22:32, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * How long do twi'leks usualy live? the same as humans?
 * Hang on, hang on, I've got a canon source for this one! Quick answer: yes. Twi'leks reach adulthood at 16, middle age at 45, old age at 60, and "venerable" at 80, according to the Ultimate Alien Anthology. There's no maximum age, but it's unusual to live much longer than a couple decades in the "venerable" category. Enochf 22:26, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Fanon
Quinlanfan 21:20, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Is there any rules against creating a fanon page if i clearly state that it is fanon? I want to do two pages on two diffrent Twi'leks.
 * We don't allow fanon on any pages other than your userpage - \\Captain Kwenn// &mdash; Ahoy! 21:24, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Try Star Wars Fanon Wiki. -LtNOWIS 21:25, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Skin???

 * I have noticed that the red and blue Twi'leks' have names like Rutian or Lethan. What are the names of the Orange and Tan colors?

~Darian: Brown/Gray/peach, Tukian: Green, Tolian: Orange/Yellow and Tyrian: Purple/Pink.~ Twi'lek Lexicon

Quinlanfan 02:31, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you have a source for that? And please sign your comments with ~ ~ ~ ~.

Is Star Wars Galaxies Canon or fanon? This extra skin information is for SWG roleplayers. Vixenpadme

Prominent Twi'leks
This list is pretty thick. Can we cut it down to maybe 5-6 prominent Twi'leks? &mdash;  SparqMan  Talk 05:55, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Or we could put it in a scrollbox.Tocneppil 04:45, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

human + twi'lek = ?
I am writing a story and I was wondering if a twi'lek and a human could have a baby together. If so, would it only have one lekku? thanks,


 * The EU would be full of half-and-halfs like Star Trek if they could. I'm guessing, no, but I've never found any references to interbreeding in an official source. Chances are humans and Twi'leks could have a child, but they'd have to create it in a test-tube; it wouldn't occur naturally. That's just a guess. Enochf 22:23, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Did you ever think that both lekku would just be shorter!?


 * Maybe one lekku?


 * alien races cant have baby's(the natural way) a human cant have a baby with a monkey, becouse their gen's dont match. Maybe it's posible with test tubes, since technology in the star wars universe is so high. although there are some half-breed characters(like Bey) my guess is the twi'lek/human hybrid would have small nobs on it's head, and hair.

lekku
hey, Lekku is listed as a language ! Lekku is not exactly a language is a communication form !Darth Nospher 00:39, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * maybe the Lekku's are hollow, and they use air to make sounds with them(like those dinosaurs with the stick on the back of their head)

Finally the EARS!!!!!!
I found this on wikipedia and it makes PERFECT sence: Both males and females have ear nodes, but females typically wear elaborate caps or head-bindings fitted with ear coverings made of bone or other material, leading to the belief among some casual observers that the coverings are actually their ears


 * No. Their ears are actually shaped like that. See Star Wars Galaxies. -- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|20px]] Talk 23:17, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * What does it say on this matter? - Sikon 07:28, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Why do the males have regular ears and females dont?Quinlanfan 22:22, 3 March 2007 (UTC)


 * While some older art shows Twi'lek females with humanlike ears, newer sources have retconned this, with all Twi'lek females either having conical ears, or headpieces that completely cover the ears. As for whether or not these conical shapes are actually part of their bodies; the Twi'lek female Jaden Korr head models in Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy all clearly show conical ears that are attached to the head.  It seems to be fairly obvious that female Twi'leks canonicaly have conical ears. (Especially since none of the females in the G-canon movies have humanlike ears.)  Synchronizor 06:12, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Does that mean this (http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/comics/totj/twileks1.jpg)is now out of continuity?

beauty
By playing KOTOR, as well as seeing other images, I have noticed that
 * 1) All twi'lek females are gorgeous
 * 2) Most slaves, dancers, courtesans etc I have seen, if not all, are twi'lek females

I don't know if this is mentioned somewhere (appart the 'Females much yum-yum' by Vilmarh Grahrk) but i don't think this is coincidental on creators' behalf

I thought adding a reference to this physical and natural affinity, and subsequently being favoured for those roles by slavers and criminals. I added this phrase in the 'Appearance' section but I think it needs more 'support'. MoffRebus 11:39, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * As for more slaves/courtesans being Twi'lek females, that goes to the history of Ryloth. They were non-spacefaring when first contacted and basically made themselves rich selling ryll and slave-girls. Lots of beautiful women in the galaxy, but few whose entire species is willing to sell them on the black market, hence the preponderance of Twi'leks in those roles. Enochf 22:28, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * There's an obese elderly Twi'lek female in Platt's Starport Guide. Gonk 01:56, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I have to agree with you completely. I mean, twi'leks are definitely the most gorgeous creatures ever. Ever. Darth Maddolis 11:56, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Bib Fortuna
Fortuna's pic should be at the top of the page. I know this is "wookiepedia" and most people are expected to have an extended knowledge of the extended universe, but Bib is far and away the most recognizable Twi'lek. And he looks alot different than most of the Twi'leks on here. He give Twi'leks alot of credibility as far non-hardcore fans go because he appears in the OT with dialogue. 66.167.145.218 07:31, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

IPA Pronunciation
Is the IPA given here accurate? I had always pronounced the name as ['twaɪʔlɛk]. For the non-linguistically inclined, the article has the pronunciation as "TWEElek" (no glottal stop), as opposed to what I had assumed, "TWY-lek", with a glottal stop where the hyphen is.
 * "Twee" is the pronunciation that crops up in both KOTOR games. In my head I always read it as "Twy," and that's usually how I say it out loud, but that's just a bad habit. Enochf 19:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think the KOTOR games are correct though. Anybody have the NEGAS book laying around that can verify the pronunciation? - JMAS 19:49, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure it can be both. If memory serves me correctly, SW galaxies has it as (in IPA) Tweelek or Twylek. Speaking of the IPA, I don't wanna go on a rant here but in pages such as Xizor, we have a link to the IPA through 'pronunciation,' although it's not actually written in phoenetics on the page. I find that pretty silly. Darth Maddolis 11:50, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

LEKKU???
I have noticed that Aayla's lekku are longer in the pre-Episode II comics. They are about half that size in the movie. Do the lekku get shorter when they get older?

Also are the lekku considered to be a private part?


 * The length changes might just be an inconsistency in drawing. They can't be "private parts", though, considering even the most modestly dressed Twi'leks wave them about in public all the time. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 19:27, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Also in the comics Aayla has black tatoos on her lekku. In the movie she does not.
 * That just means George Lucas made slight changes to the live action character than what was portrayed in the comics. And what George says, goes. As to the lekku, they are not genitals. But they are very sensitive parts of their body. I believe they could be considered erogenous zones to a twilek, much as the ears on a Ferengi. - JMAS 19:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

ears on a What?
 * A Ferengi is a species in Star Trek. -LtNOWIS 20:09, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * So rubbing a Twi'lek's lekku would be like giving them Oo-mox? Interesting.
 * In KotOR II, a male Twi'Lek inside a cantina on Onderon brags about how he polished them and says the Exile is free to fell them. I don't think he'd ask someone to give him a form of sex in public.

near human
Yo, is da Twi'leks near human? they look a lot like the humans, minus the head tails and female ears. I think that they should be listed as near human. Twilekmaster 14:37, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter whether anyone thinks they should be listed as near human unless they are listed as near-human in some canon source. - JMAS 14:44, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I think I read somewhere that they were near-humans. I'll look into that and let you all know. I think I did to. perhaps try Dark Force Rising.
 * Yes, they have vaginas, if that's what you're wondering. Darth Maddolis 14:47, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


 * (laughs) I nearly spit up my cola because I was laughing so hard. (Laughs more) And how world do you know this? Nudge, nudge, ;) Anzati02 20:16, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Ohh, well I happen to be a female twi'lek myself... and if you don't buy that, George Lucas himself told me. If you don't buy that, you're too fussy. Darth Maddolis 11:47, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Lekku
I read something a while back about the lekku playing a part in the well, you know....nudge nudge wink wink kind of stuff. does this pic prove any of that true?


 * If by nudge nudge wink wink you mean kissing, then a)you're allowed to say that here :P and b)that pic doesn't necessarily prove anything, except that it can be used. If by nudge nudge wink wink you mean sex, then that pic really doesn't prove anything. But I can draw you a picture if you want... Darth Maddolis 11:55, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Twi'lek girls are more beautifiul than human girls!?
I have only been atracted to a few human girls in my life, and one I am sharing with now. But, look at Oola, Aalya and the Gella twins. they are beautiful! And most human girls aren't...which looks better? Gustafar 19:21, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, in my extremely humble opinion, human girls. They do, however, have a place for people like you, it goes under the name of a 'mental hospital.' Darth Maddolis 01:43, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Not sure exactly what this has to do with the article, but I'm sure that in-universe it'd just be a matter of preference. I assume that the exotic skin-colour is what can make them appear more attractive... and the fact that they might pick pretty human girls to play the parts of the Twi'leks. But that's just a guess. :P &mdash;  beeurd  talk 13:13, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Beeurd's comment seconded.