Wookieepedia:Requests for user rights/RFR archive/Menkooroo


 * ''The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a request for rollback that was unsuccessful. Please do not modify it.

(3 admin + 6 users/3 admin + 5 users/0)
Two week deadline from first request, voting ends on July 27.

Support

 * 1) Menkooroo is an excellent up-and-coming user who is active, helpful, completely trustworthy, and generally outstanding. Havac 05:56, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) [inevitable comment about candy] &mdash; Master Jonathan New Jedi Order.svg ( Jedi Council Chambers ) 05:58, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) Good candidate. --Imperialles 05:59, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) Not a candy vote, I just genuinely think that the rollback system works both ways. I know that in the past, speaking from my own experiences, that users who do not necessarily do a lot of anti-vandal reversion prior to getting rollback, can indeed take to that role after being given the button. That methodology certainly cannot apply to administration, of course&mdash;that would be foolishness, but in regards to rollback, where the actual power itself is so limited that it is also (not just, also) a token of esteem, as it has always been traditionally. Menk has demonstrated a dedication to the Wook that far exceeds that of many others, and obviously while this shouldn't be the incentive for him to take a more active role in anti-vandalism, I genuinely think that this is something that he will be using. The fact of the matter is that he does an absolutely immense amount of work on the Wook, and if we can do anything inoffensive and minor to help him on his way, I say by all means, because we all invariably profit by his presence and contribution. Thefourdotelipsis 13:39, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) After consideration, per 4dot. If we have people dedicated to the Wook who are often here, and here to make improvements, giving them the tools to do so better hurts no one and provides all sorts of potential benefit. - Lord Hydronium 00:44, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) Rollback for me isn't a big deal. It's not like adminship, and I think it should be given to anyone who would find it useful and use it responsibly. For lack of a better word, I'll call it candy :P SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 09:24, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) Tools which allow trusted users to better serve the community, not treats for the cool kids. Menkooroo falls within the first of my statements. —Tommy 9281 19:23, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 8) -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 00:43, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 9) &mdash; 15:55, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) I have no overriding concerns or complaints about Menkooroo as a Wookieepedian. Although my own interaction with him is admittedly limited, from what I've seen he seems like a nice enough person. But frankly, and this isn't a condemnation of Menkooroo himself in any way, but I've never believed in Rollback as obligatory "candy" that is inevitably granted to someone just because they're a nice person on the wiki. In my mind, Rollback is a privilege. It's something that is earned through related merit and demonstration of consistent and measurable anti-vandalism work. As point three of the Rollback requirements reads, They have demonstrated a need for the ability through extensive anti-vandalism work. I simply don't believe Menkooroo has demonstrated a need for this privilege through "extensive anti-vandalism work" at this point in time, which I feel his contributions bear out. Toprawa and Ralltiir 06:22, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) A quick scan of Menkooroo's contributions shows very few reversions, and out of those, there are even fewer reversions involving the removal of vandalism or nonsense. So, per Toprawa. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 13:34, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) Per Toprawa. Menkooroo is a great user, but rollback is not a reward; it's something that's earned, and by nature it's hard to get. Frankly, the belief that rollback (and even adminship to an extent) is candy baffles me.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 14:14, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) Completely per Toprawa. Menkooroo is a great user with fantastic contributions, but he has done comparatively little work so far in the anti-vandalism category. I have absolutely no issue with Menkooroo himself&mdash;he has without a doubt one of the most exemplary attitudes of all the users on this site&mdash;I just don't see enough anti-vandalism edits in his edit history to warrant rollback rights. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 17:03, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) Per above, actually  JangFett  (Talk) 16:38, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) Per above. -- 1358  (Talk) 21:03, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) No-one is doubting that Menkooroo is awesome, but I don't see him constantly reverting vandalism and the like. To put it simply, he doesn't need rollback.  NAYAYEN : TALK 20:28, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 8) I have to agree with Toprawa, Tranner, and Chack on every word they have posted. &mdash; Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 16:03, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Comments
Accepted by IRC. Havac 05:56, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Not related to Menkooroo personally, but to the community at large: Please, stop treating rollback like candy and have more respect for how the site operates. Our lack of seriousness on these issues has and could easily lead us into trouble. &mdash; Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 16:03, July 22, 2010 (UTC)