Talk:Cade Skywalker

* nerdgasm* --Imp 17:48, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
 * How many years down the line is this? -Danik Kreldin 17:52, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
 * 100 years after the Dark Nest trilogy, apparently. --Imp 17:53, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh. My. Lord. This looks amazing. Here's the thread over at TF.N. Ostrander states it's "set 100 years AFTER the events in NJO and the upcoming Legacy of the Force novels". I need to think up a new word for how utterly fantastic this is going to be - Kwenn 17:56, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I think Imp's word above pretty much sums it up. Sweet mother of kriffing Sith.... --Azizlight 01:27, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
 * *repeats nerdgasm* -- Riffsyphon1024 06:08, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
 * *blinks* ...things certainly happened in my absence, eh? QuentinGeorge 06:45, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
 * also i wanted to third the nerdgasm. i keep checking this page and the dark horse message boards.  NERD!!!!!! Lonnyd 08:26, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, this is certainly interesting! I only wish they'd have had the guts to make the last Skywalker a girl (in which case they could have named her Jade Skywalker :D). It's about time for the GFFA to grow out of this "only male descendants can carry on the family name/legacy" thing. Leia's children are every bit as much Skywalkers as Ben is, even without the family name. Oh well. --Tinwe 09:38, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I think you have a point there in general, except that Liea's kids aren’t really good Skywalker heirs, because they have wayyyyy to much Solo in them, and any offspring they produce, whatever the child's gender will be a Solo heir. Also, you're wrong that only men have carried down the Skywalker line. The first Skywalker was a women, remember. Anakin was conceived supernaturally, so the Skywalkers start with Shmi. --Jad Jermain
 * Does anyone else NOT like this idea? I thought they realised that the Empire was old 5 or 6 years ago... thats why they had the Empire join the GFFA and came up with the Vong and others as new antagonists.   Bringing them back as the enemy seems like a step backwards.  And I think placing it only 100 years later is going to tie the hands of the Legacy authors.  I would have been much happier with something 1000 years into the future with no ties to the current characters, with a new enemy.(it could even have been the Sith... just anything but the Empire...) --2Guns 18:42, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
 * In interviews with the series creators, it's been stated that although the new Empire traces its origins back to Palpatine, it’s not the same evil totalitarian organization it during the Rebellion era. It’s been explicitly stated that the new Empire isn’t all evil, but it seems they do an autocratic and authoritarian streak.Also, from what I’m seeing, it looks like the Sith are the new main villain, and the Empire is more of a foil. If this was a resurrection of Palpatine’s Empire, and if they were going to be the main villain, I’d agree that it’s a bad idea, but it seems clear that’s not what’s going on here. Jad Jermain


 * I, for one, does not like the idea. KEJ 14:02, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 2Guns, it doesn't actually say anywhere that the "All new Empire" mentioned on the poster is the same orginisation that Palpatine ruled over. So your arguement, which relies on the fact that its the same group is unfounded. For all we know this new Empire is the GFFA. Jasca Ducato 12:59, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I guess it could be the GFFA, but the preview I read said they were fighting against a resurgent Empire, not an all new one.--2Guns 17:36, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Sith empire?--Xilentshadow900 00:17, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
 * No, you're not the only one. I don't see any appeal at all to this concept. 68.47.234.131 08:02, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Shame. It could be a Sith Empire but i doubt it. That idea has been used waayyyyy to many times. Maybe a Sith back Galactic power. that would draw my attention. Jasca Ducato 15:45, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Insider and Leland Chee confirm it's actually our beloved Galactic Empire back to rule the galaxy with a new Emperor in charge, using the same uniforms and tech as they did in the last century - Kwenn 17:35, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, that's kind of dissapointing if you ask me. Lonnyd 18:26, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Steven Tyler look-a-like
Does anyone else think he looks like Steven Tyler from Aerosmith? :D I thought he looked more like a "fuller in the face"/"blonder" Hayden Christensen... who's had no sleep and is on drugs. Either that or a cross between Luke Skywalker and Lobo. Whatever, he's a pirate. Not keen on the tattoo... but come on. PIRATE. Let's hope he shoots first. (Ulicus 15:05, 19 May 2006 (UTC))
 * Aha, keep forgetting the signature. --Juha 19:51, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Really? I thought he looked like David Bowie. Jad Jermain
 * Yeah the lips. Perhaps Ben Skywalker hitches up with Liv Tyler :-) --Azizlight 01:27, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Needs dark hair. -- Riffsyphon1024 06:08, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not really digging the artist's style. -- Doo Doo 07:41, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not really digging anything of this direction of the Star Wars Universe at all. KEJ 14:02, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, in the newest pictures that were released, he sort of looks like he's sporting an Afro. - Breathesgelatin 03:44, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
 * A blonde-brain afro. Lonnyd 06:23, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes. Also, how secret can his Jedi abilities be if he's sporting a lightsaber around in that picture? - Breathesgelatin 09:19, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I think he's discovered his family and revealed it to his buds, so everyone knows hat he's a Jeedai (hiss) and they're okay with that. --Jeedai123 01:46, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Well it is known that he is on drugs. Someone today said he looked like Billy Idol. -- Riffsyphon1024 02:32, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Last of anything?
Where is there any evidence that Cade is last of the Jedi OR last of the Skywalker line? Lonnyd 05:54, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Nothing. They're fanwanking him already! Tam 08:06, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Not the last Jedi (in fact, it specifically says he isn't), but Skywalker, yes: "Even as their power is failing, the Jedi hold to one final hope: the last remaining heir to the Skywalker legacy." (from the Legacy #0 solicitation on Rebelscum). - Lord Hydronium 08:14, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Can you provide a link for that? Not that I don't believe you, I just want any info available on this right now. Lonnyd 08:39, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Second item down. - Lord Hydronium 09:52, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
 * What about the Solos? Or are Jacen/Jaine Solo considered skywalkers as well and we assume they aren't around either. Personal Comment: I don't like the concept, it's set too close to the classic times and it wants to make "everything new" I thought Jedi can live pretty long, so one would expect that around 140 ABY Ben or Allana are still alive? Anonyomous User, soon to be registered

If you ask me, this whole "One final hope for the Jedi" thing is WAY overused. I mean come on! Why do they need a Skywalker to lead them? They never did before. The Jedi order lasted 1000 years after the Ruusan reformation, WITHOUT a Skywalker. Where as WITH a Skywalker it only lasted 100. Besides how many times can the Jedi order as a whole be in danger? They are the "Guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy" right? I understand the battle of dark and light, and I have no problem with them using it. If they want to make the Sith return, that’s cool with me. But if the Sith were to return they should return as they were in the days of old. After all Darth Bane's order was shattered was it not? Dargos 20:57, 5 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Well at least Luke is out of the picture. He is my 2nd most disliked character after Palpatine. Dargos 21:03, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
 * wow, good thing you dont write for the EU.

But seriously, Bane's order was shattered. I for one would find it more interesting if Palpatine's empire was fully disolved by now, and the Sith were a full blown empire again. Really how can Palpatine's empire survive everything that has happened so far and return AGAIN? It seems to me that it would be a real threat if the Sith numbered in the thousands again or at least in the hundreds. That would be a good reason for the Jedi to be going extinct AGAIN(Which is getting really old). 68.2.19.113 03:40, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree whole-heartedly on the "extinction of the Jedi" thing getting real annoying. But, from what we know right now, there are at least three sith, which would seem to mean that Darth Bane's order had been destroyed. Lonnyd 22:37, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, it looks better than the prequels. I'm all for a PIRATE Jedi. I'm not really bothered about the Sith returning either, I'm quite happy to think that Anakin's restoring "Balance" is more abstract and complicated than just "eliminate the Sith", so all's well. I AM a little peeved about the whole "Jedi Order on the brink of destruction" thing again though... at least so DAMN SOON after the last one. I mean, at least when they shamelessly ripped it off in KotOR II that was like 3,951 years before the films... I think "100 years later" is a bit too soon. (Ulicus 15:07, 19 May 2006 (UTC))

How could Ben be his father?
If I understand the first sentence in parenthesis right, it says that Ben Skywalker was Cade's father. How could he be? Ben was born in 26 ABY. Even assuming he was 60 when Cade was born, then Cade would be 66 during the Legacy-era. There should be at least one, or not two generations between Ben and Cade. - TopAce 11:46, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree. I should write a fic about "??? Skywalker". --Jeedai123 22:02, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Descendant just means Cade came after Ben. He could be his son, grandson, great-great-great grandson, and so on. He could even be the son/grandson of another child Luke and Mara may have had later. CooperTFN 22:19, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Please note that there is NO evidence that Ben is even Cade's ancestor. At this point, that is only presumed and has never been stated. - Breathesgelatin 05:39, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Didn't the insider issue say that Cade knows about his ancestors - Luke, Ben etc.? At least that's what I heard. - Sikon [ Talk ] 05:44, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh... I haven't gotten my Insider in the mail yet. Maybe so. Oh well. If I'm wrong (and I'm probably am), someone will fix it. - Breathesgelatin 05:51, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Insider says Anakin and Luke, but not Ben, leaving it open for anything to happen to them. -- Riffsyphon1024 02:41, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Behind the Scenes
"Cade Skywalker's first name may also be derived from the smuggler of the same name, Cade, played by Shane Felux in the fan film Star Wars: Revelations." - Oh, come on now. CooperTFN 22:22, 8 April 2006 (UTC) "'belonged to a really tall Ewok with a Vader obsession. Cade got them at a thrift store on Lok.' Presumably this is not canon." That made me laugh out loud. Lonnyd 20:30, 15 April 2006 (UTC) So about that latest addition to the BTS by an anon........ Is that really necessary? If so, can I add "Other people think Cade is awesome?" Lonnyd 10:48, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Some Anon put that in...I know, I know...wishful thinking for the anon, isn't it? QuentinGeorge 22:52, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Has anyone noticed that Cade is wearing the bottom half of Darth Vader's suit on the cover. 17:35
 * Yeah, I did. And I also noticed that you need to sign your post. :D --Jeedai123 01:44, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, either Vader had many suits of armor (which he probably did), or Cade managed to get a part of Vader's suit remade just for him. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 01:47, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Good guess, Neb. I'll go with the second one. They probably sent Bantha Boy to Endor, then remade Vader's legs. I'm guessing that during the time of the comic, Bantha Boy is working on the body. --Jeedai123 01:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Check this out! [URL=http://s4.invisionfree.com/mindbreak/index.php?showtopic=911&st=15]Cade'n Friends[/URL] Awesome+Good+Cool+Wickedly sweet=Those uncolored pages. --Jeedai123 01:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Is that real? It looks real.  I wet myself on that last page. Lonnyd 19:53, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * He resembels the fanonist ideal, and he has Darth Vader's pants...I just keep getting more reasons to hate the Legacy comics. -- SFH 01:59, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * We're left, I suppose, to pray that someone has the decency to cancel this nonsense. Or at least slap one of these on it. Red XIV 06:47, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, please, would you fanboys calm down? You haven't even read a single issue yet. Sheesh. QuentinGeorge 23:27, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * That Yuuzhan Vong Sith is awesome. AnakinSolo (a.k.a. me!)'s reaction was funny.
 * I don't think that's a Yuuzhan Vong Sith. Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:36, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Quentin - I see how often you edit this page. You can admit you're excited, we won't think less of you. ;) Lonnyd 07:45, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm so excited about this, man. I count down till May 17 on my Star Wars calendar. XD --AnakinSolo 01:10, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Quentin, I admit I may be harping on this, but grant me that my complaints are not that unreasonable. Is it so wrong that I want Sith Lords who have put some thought into their names? Is it so wrong that I ask for a main character that doesn't seem to be some hyper active fanonists idea of a Mary Sue character? -- SFH 01:45, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
 * You're right, we haven't read any issues yet. So we don't know whether the execution of this concept will be good or bad. That doesn't mean we can't judge the concept itself to be trash. Red XIV 01:45, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Geez, show a little faith. This serise is written by the same guy who brought us Vos and Alya... So unless you're going to tell me you're a Vos hater too, why not wait until you read the fisrt issue or two before making up your mind :-) [[Jad Jermain|Jad Jermain
 * I agree and I deleted it. If we decide it's really important, we need to add that other people think he is awesome. Plenty of people I know are getting back into comics just for the Legacy series. - Breathesgelatin 05:35, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Infobox
What policy do we have for individuals who changed their affiliation? Should Cade, for instance, have a Jedi or bounty hunter infobox? - Sikon [ Talk ] 08:19, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I would say Bounty hunter at this point, until he eventually rejoins the order (which we all know he will). We should go by  their last known affiliation, I think. Lonnyd 20:56, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Vader pants
Is it me, or does it look like he's wearing Vader's pants and boots? KEJ 17:00, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
 * looks that way to me... Darth_Vaders_Cousin
 * Yep. --AnakinSolo 00:59, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
 * "Your multi-great grandfather wanted you to have these when you were old enough..." Haha. Why not? If they're as indestructable as the glove... ;) (Ulicus 15:08, 19 May 2006 (UTC))
 * He sure is. And he's also waring one of thos freaky coats that Luke and the Clone Emperor were wearing all through Dark Empire. Jad Jermain


 * And wearing partial Mandalorian armour. That's good stuff.

Quiet Mandalorian 03:36, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Cade vs. Kane
"In early iterations of the Star Wars script, the character that became Luke Skywalker had the first name Kane." Kane...is not Cade. What's the point of that Bts entry? --SparqMan 21:18, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

My ol' Webster's dictionary defines a 'cade' as a lamb left by its mother & reared by hand -fits the orphan theory.Tocneppil 09:14, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Why does everyone seek symbolism in everything? Can't Cade be just a random name? - Sikon [ Talk ] 12:01, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Force Lightning?

 * After reading Legacy 1, it does seem like Force Lightning that is reviving Cade's master, but all other forms of Force Lightning are meant to hurt, maim, or kill, not revive someone back to life. Is this even the correct term, or was Cade using a Force Heal? -- Riffsyphon1024 04:21, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It stands to reason that lighting might start a heart beating again... clear! *BLAM* --Azizlight 04:22, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah, right. I couldn't place it into a 21st century context. So this means this is the first time Force Lightning has ever been used in this way, and should be noted on its article. -- Riffsyphon1024 04:23, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 * No it isn't. Dooku revived Grievous the same way. Check the Grievous article. QuentinGeorge 06:43, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you for that correction Quentin. Still both instances are worth adding to the lightning article. I have already added Cade's and can change it to reflect Dooku's if need be. -- Riffsyphon1024 06:47, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't know if it's me, but it always seemed to me like Dooku was holding a small device to do his thing with Grievous. --Sauron18 10:37 22 June 2006 (CDT)
 * I recently heard Ostrander said this wasn't force lightning but rather what Palpatine was looking for. Can anyone confirm/deny?--Sauron18 02:22, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Age
Jan Duursema has confirmed Cade and Shado are supposed to be 14 in 130 ABY - Kwenn 18:23, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * That explains why Shado looks like a girl (or his sister) so much in Legacy 1. Thank you for clearing that up. -- Riffsyphon1024 05:06, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
 * So then, He's a fourteen year old spice user? Or does this take place in 140 ABY again? -- SFH 04:43, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The later bits take place 10 years later, yes. QuentinGeorge 04:55, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Cade a Spice User?
In the Cade Skywalker page here at Wookiepedia it says that Cade is a known spice user but I PM'ed John Ostrander and Jan Duursema at the force.net boards and John told me he to keep reading but Jan Duursema told me that maybe it's been said that he smuggled everything from Blasters to Spice. I think that should be changed. Cade Skywalker June 28, 2006
 * I think it should stay, as Legacy #0 twice states that he's a spice user. Lonnyd 17:13, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * In Legacy #0 it only says that Pirate Rav provides Bounty Hunters with engine parts and spice but it doesn't state that Cade uses it. Cade Skywalker 17:22 June 28, 2006 (UTC)
 * Confirmed in #3. Lonnyd 05:17, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Exiled from the Order
That whole section seems A) very redundant of what is stated earlier in the article and B) very speculative. Anyone object to me removing it all together? Lonnyd 10:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Scratch that, it just all needs to be more organized chronologically. Lonnyd 10:05, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Ben
The article now definitely says that Cade was Ben's descendant. So it's now known for sure? - Sikon 18:26, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Unless I missed something, I think it's still pretty much an assumption.  StarNeptune Talk to me! 19:09, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I can't find this anywhere, but I think I remember Leland Chee saying that Ben would be an only child. Lonnyd 22:05, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yer, and to be honest Kol has Ben's hair etc, but yes its speculation Jedi Dude 22:27, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but it seems like "solid speculation". Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:25, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Ben's hair color is reddish blond while Kol's hair is red like Mara's.  Jaina Solo  Goddess Stuff [[Image:JainaPurple.jpg |30px]] 12:22, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * If you're suggesting that he can't be Ben's son, here's a solution to that: Traits can skip a generation. For example, my grandfather had the same color hair that I do, but my father didn't. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:59, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * No just pointing it out. In this case it skips about five generations.  Jaina Solo  Goddess Stuff [[Image:JainaPurple.jpg |30px]] 21:26, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Considering the prevalance of red haired persons in the GFFA, it's not unreasonable that Kol got his hair from some other bloodline.  StarNeptune Talk to me! 21:38, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Exactly, and yep my hiar is ginger and that skipped six generations. GET IN. back on track its all speculation in any case...who knows Ben might die some time, haha. Jedi Dude 21:42, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * But, if Ben is meant to be the only son of Luke, then that's good enough for me. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 21:43, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yer i just used that as an example. Im preety sure there bens decendents..directly i mean Jedi Dude 21:51, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Probably. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 21:52, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * It's not speculation, Cade descendaned from Luke and Anakin right? LFL confirmed that Ben will be the only child of Luke and Mara, besides they're too old. Therefore Cade is a descendant of Ben.  Jaina Solo  Goddess Stuff [[Image:JainaPurple.jpg |30px]] 22:01, 18 September 2006 (UTC)