Talk:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

Voice cast
What qualifies as a "prominent" voice actor? Is it the actor themselves, or the roles they play? If the former is the case, I have no problem; it's only the latter I'm concerned about. // ~mikah~  19:04, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I would define a "prminent" actor as one of the main charachters but if it can be proven that someone spoke for the game as "Additional voices," they should be listed after those who we know played named parts. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 03:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Spoiler warning??
Revan is the first main character listed and the article pretty much details what happens to you in the game in that short entry. Should there be a spoiler warning? Or have that initial entry reduced? The storyline is one the greatest in gaming, including the plot twist, and anyone reading this article while getting into the game before that twist is probably going to be pretty pissed off... Philby 23:54, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Our spoiler policy dictates that, up until a month from the release, the spoiler tag is to be used. This game has been out for 3 years now, so that period is long gone. Also, the entire wiki contains spoilers; we alert users to this fact on the Main Page. Essentially, if it were to work like that, everything would need the spoiler tag: Luke is Vader's son, Palpatine = Sidious, etc. 00:03, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Censorship rating, Australia.
It said M15+ originally, I changed it to PG because I live in Australia and own the game. It's PG, not M. In short, the reference was wrong, and I'm yet to find a correct reference (Google isn't helping for some reason.) Anyway, to sum up, it's PG, not M. Cheers. AHS0KA.
 * Until you can prove that it is PG, it stays M as that is what it is sourced as. Please do not change it again until you have proof. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 01:28, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I have the box in front of me as I type this, and in fact it's G 8+, an old version rating which translates to 'PG' in the new system, as shown on this fact sheet here: This site  also gives a PG rating. I don't know who came up with M 15+, but even the OFLC isn't that stringent. I can get a photo if you want, but I hope you won't require one. It's not like I have a reason to lie about this. CommanderJB 10:17, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I have the 'Best of PC' version. And on the EaW/Kotor disc it says recommended for Mature Audiences (Yes it is OLFC). SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 10:27, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe it was re-rated for that version, if so, which do we put, or does that justify a sort of Bts section? More work... NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 22:56, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * All the other game collections I've come across such as 'Best of PC' tend to have blanket ratings for the whole volume, going with the highest and then applying it to each one, which in this case would be Republic Commando's M 15+. If you check I strongly suspect you'll find that all disks say 'Recommended for Mature Audiences'. I believe the game was always intended to have a G 8+/PG rating in Australia. Perhaps it would warrant a BTS note but I'm positive PG is the right one for the infobox. CommanderJB 13:29, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Intentions make no difference to the article; it's what currently stands as the most recent rating that we should be using. // ~mikah~  19:35, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed with Mikah, you can't source a feeling and the most recent rating is what is used in the article. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 05:15, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It seems to me CommanderJB is right. The 'Best of PC' is a collection of games, not the game itself. And the linked sites clearly indicate a PG rating. -LtNOWIS 06:40, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Before JB and apparently Ahsoka changed it, it was sourced to http://www.gamepro.com.au/index.php/id;37646291;fp;2;fpid;223 which clearly indicates an M(15+) rating for the game in OFLC. I'm not sure what to source it to... this is very confusing and Google is not helping. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 00:18, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It certainly is confusing but can I reiterate please that the "Best of PC" version is an entirely different product and is rated as such by the OFLC, so its rating is bound to be different thanks to the other games in the volume. I would also like to point out that I have a copy of the game, rated very shortly after release (as is evidenced by the use of the old system), and it has an equivalent PG rating. Nor have I ever once seen an M 15+ rated copy anywhere. I find it easier to believe that GamePro got it wrong as it does not match what I have seen in real life, unlike sources which give a G 8+/PG rating, which I have already posted. CommanderJB 01:16, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * "Best of PC" games are sold seperately I believe as it is like a platinum title. Regardless, it is still currently rated M(16+) but I will not change it back until a consensus is reached, or possibly the compromise of just sriking it from the page all together. Also, the game is unchanged in the "Best of PC" version, they simply changed their mind about the rating. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 03:54, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * My apologies, I do not wish to start a heated argument over this, but I don't believe that's correct. 'Star Wars: The Best of PC' is a single product; a 'box set' if you will, sold together, containing six separate games: Star Wars: Empire at War, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Star Wars: Battlefront, Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast, and Star Wars: Republic Commando. They are not sold separately under a 'Best of PC' label. This can be seen on the Star Wars official site, GameSpot , Wikipedia and anywhere else you care to search. As it is a single product it is given a single rating by the OFLC. This single rating is determined by the most mature content in the compilation. In this case, this is found in Republic Commando. Just because Knights of the Old Republic appears in this resulting M 15+ rated product does not mean it is also rated M 15+. The rating is the maximum rating for the compilation's contents, not the rating for all of its contents. As such, as a separate game, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic remains the PG rating found both on the real-life boxes, the GamesPortal site I referenced earlier, this  Gameswarehouse Australia site, this online Australian department store, this retailer, this  retailer, and generally every single site on the internet selling the game in Australia as a separate product. If they had re-rated it for the Best of PC version you'd rather expect all new copies to carry the rating, and as they do not I believe this is demonstrative of the fact the original game product, the subject of the article, carries the PG rating in Australia. CommanderJB 13:34, 15 November 2008 (UTC)