Talk:Asajj Ventress/Legends

Image
If anyone (I'm looking at you JMAS) can get an image of Asajj from The Clone Wars tv show or movie, I think that should be the main image, after all the movie is G-Canon (I think, it might be TV-Canon.) Jacob Nion   ( Personal Comm ) 23:34, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Please, no. The Clone Wars rendition is a zombie. Drewton  Era-old.png ( Drewton's Holocron ) 00:51, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, Drewton, the dude has a point. This is Asajj's official film picture and we could get a headshot on this one: AsajjVentress TCW.jpg
 * And more importantly, what do you mean she looks like a zombie in this rendition, anyway? She's much more hot that way, man! So how about it, Drewton? *giving puppy eyes* Pretty please, with two lightsabers on top? 131.109.225.3 20:38, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

OK, let me point something out to you all. The infobox image does not need to be G-canon over C-canon. The image needs to be the best looking/quality image of the subject. And I honestly can't decide which is better here. The current image is a good quality comic image of her. Here are two from TCW film which could work for the infobox. Which is better, I'm not decided yet. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 21:02, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Per JMAS, the image doesn't need to be G-canon, which we actually don't know TCW is. 131.109.225.3, look at the trailer. She looks like a half-dead zombie in most shots of it, especially the last one. It looks completely unnatural and cartoon-ish. Almost like comparing the comic version and the cartoon. Drewton  Era-old.png ( Drewton's Holocron ) 01:31, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * We know TCW isn't G-canon; it's T-canon. Anywho, the first TCW image there is creepy in a bad way, but I could still go for it. -- Ozzel 01:39, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't it be G-canon? Since it is first released as a film on the big screen? -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 04:51, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I propose we use the first one. Her head's not reddened by the lightsabers next to her, so that makes it more of an appropriate image. 198.7.229.2 14:17, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You may propose all you like. But do not change the image like that again without discussing it here on this talk page first. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 15:25, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * JMAS, see here for the canon status. TCW wasn't meant to be a film, anyway. Drewton  Era-old.png ( Drewton's Holocron ) 01:22, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry. Just got excited, that's all. 198.7.229.2 14:38, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3D looks childish. While a drawing looks more (yes, I'm going to say it) realistic. It's the very same reason why we opted for Ching's instead of the much more mainstream Clone Wars cartoon series one. And as said before, Ventress was not some weird, ghost/witch, wild Dark Jedi. She had elegance, style, finesse. Ching portrays the tragic, dark, yet elegant, as per the discussions about her in the various sources we have on her much more closely to that. Add to that, Clone Wars movie is already screwing up articles in terms of canon and appearance. It shall not have this infobox. -- Redemption Redemptionusersymbol.png (Talk) 22:31, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The Comic book image is more realistic and looks alot better. just because this image of Asajj appears in a movie theater doesn't mean it has to be the new main image. We should keep it the way it is. JediNTT307 03:15, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree. Leave the infobox as is. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 03:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I love Brian's representation of Asajj and after watching CW trailers I agree that some shots of her in the movie are far from beautiful. And still I vote for the first image (the one on the left) - I think she looks really cool on that poster. Mauser 13:03, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * As to her looking like a zombie, maybe. More like she was separated at birth. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 13:42, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * To be fair, the current headshot is covered in red. We'd need something to show her in real color. 70.188.129.194 19:22, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

The Clone Wars timing
Just wondering, how is it that Asajj is still running around looking just fine if this is after Anakin recieved his scar, thus after she fell into Coruscant's underlevels? Shouldn't she be in a bacta tank on Boz Pity and everybody under the assumption that she's dead?

And we can't say this took place AFTER obssession because the clones are still wearing phase I. I dunno, that just confused me throughout the whole movie. Dark Lord Trayus 18:54, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * TCW messed up a lot of the continuity, and so a timeline of what "really happened" and in what order needs to be decided on. I'd say to leave mention of Anakin's scar until when he got it in Obsession, since it's a minor detail in TCW. Drewton  Era-old.png ( Drewton's Holocron ) 20:54, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Just a thought here: we saw Padme's reaction to Anakin's scar twice: on Naboo in Obsession 1, which clearly takes place about 6 months before ROTS, and on Coruscant in Clone Wars Chapter 22, which takes place soon after Anakin's knighthood ceremony. I wonder, could they retcon it so Anakin would be getting the same scar twice? After Greedo case that would not surprise me. Mauser 14:39, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

They better not remake her death in the Obsession Comics. Her ending is great and since it's cutting it really close to the Obsession comics, I'm having thoughts. They already made her different then the way she was, i just hope they won't tamper with already established events. JediNTT307 19:53, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I think the new Clone Wars stuff should be earlier, personally, maybe in between Yavin IV and Growing Obsession. There's no way in hell she should be able to walk, much less fight, in between her fall on Coruscant and her recovery in Obsession. Anakin's scar is a very minor detail in comparison to Asajj's injuries, which required cybernetic replacements that she certainly doesn't have in Clone Wars. InSaneWeTrust 21:42, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Though I hope they don't classify Obsession as infinites, or something. -RandomBattleDroid


 * It's not impossible to retcon. Maybe in Obsession Padme is reacting to some different scar on his face or some kind of new expression (She just asks what happened to his face), and Anakin "kills" Ventress on Coruscant at the end of "The Clone Wars" show. Or they'll just kill off Ventress permanently and make everything else non-canon... - Milo Fett [Comlink] 16:47, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Affect Mind ability
Since somebody reverted my change, I guess I'll explain it: I haven't seen the film, but the book makes it very clear that Rex resisted Asajj's mind control. So while I'm sure she does have aptitude, the wording makes it sound like she actually took control of Rex's mind. That's why I changed it. InSaneWeTrust 21:39, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * She more or less did. You must see the film (It's awesome). Also, Television vs Book canon. User:AHS0KA
 * Opinion of the film aside, it shows Rex appear to be controlled. Since the book explains the motivations of the characters in ways the film can't, and says that Rex resisted the mind control, which would have appeared the same to anyone watching from a third-person perspective, C-canon additional information that doesn't conflict with T-canon takes precedence. - Milo Fett [Comlink] 15:17, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Doesn't conflict? Asajj: "You will contact Skywalker" Rex: "I will contact Skywalker" - not mind control??? I'd say that conflicts. User:AHS0KA

Is there any source to suggest that Ventress ever used Jar Kai?
The article gives no source for this statement. We can clearly source her as a (dual saber version) Makashi practitioner from statements made by Luninara Unduli during Star Wars: The Clone Wars s01e09. How do we know that she hasn't always used Makashi? Without any sourcing we can't be sure of anything...User:AHS0KA
 * Seeing as there is no source, I'm going to change it. If someone finds a source, feel free to revert my changes. User:AHS0KA
 * I've learned that Jar'Kai just means two sabers, and that there can be a Jar'Kai version of any style, so I changed it to "A Jar'Kai version of Makashi". However there's still no source on her learning other styles such as Niman, so I've left that out. User:AHS0KA

Anakins scar & Asajj deserting
In what books/comics did it take place?--Tetsu Aero 20:11, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Star Wars: Obsession  Mecenarylord Enter if you dare 20:16, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Ruul & Ohma-Dun
In the article it shows Ohma-Dun before her mission to Ruul. I thought Ruul was first? JediNTT307 21:59, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

What happened to Ventress?
THe question that puzzles me most is what happened to Ventress when she went into hiding. After that, no sources indicate her activites. She just...'vanished'.