Forum:CT Archive/Fanon - Zero Tolerance

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Okay, we've tried many times to get this fanon thing under control. And we still have a problem. So let's take care of this once and for all. I'm not gonna waste time giving the same arguments all over again; just look at the other threads (specifically the last one). Do we allow people to do nothing but work on fanon here when there's an entire wiki dedicated specifically to that? The answer seems obvious to me, and I know others feel the same. I've also heard many other people say that their opinions have swayed in this direction since the last time the issue was brought up, especially given the failure of the "edit number cap" thing.

So, should we disallow any and all fanon on Wookieepedia and instead encourage interested parties to use the Fanon Wiki? -- Ozzel 03:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes

 * 1) Ozzel 03:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) You betcha. - Lord Hydronium 03:09, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Most certainly. Thefourdotelipsis 03:09, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Braces for the tidal wave of opposition. Cull Tremayne 03:10, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Duh. -- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|20px]] Talk 03:12, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Yep. - JMAS 03:17, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Indeed. Greyman ( Paratus ) 03:24, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 8)  HOORJ!  -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 03:33, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) Serves no purpose whatsoever. -- [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|40px]] dmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 12:08, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) Green Tentacle (Talk) 12:47, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) I hate fanon with all the hate in my cold, black heart. - Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 14:41, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

No

 * 1) Allow me to be first. Unit 8311 11:11, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) If they do nothing but fanon, kick them. If they work besides, no matter the fanon/canon ratio, keep them. This issue has been met with a no in the past, and I see no reason why this would be different. Find some sort of middle ground. DarthMRN 12:02, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) BAH!!! Instruction creep go boom. Same arguments as last time- fanon is at the most annoying, but certainly not something that we should re-discuss every few months in yet another attempt to game the CT system. At any rate, giving people freedom to play around a little in their user namespace is not necessarily a bad thing- some people take a more casual approach to wikis than others.  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 14:25, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Imperialles 14:37, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) I admit, I am still of the opinion that nearly all fanfiction on user pages is uninteresting and unoriginal even by fanfiction standards, and wastes the user's time and energy on something which no one will read. We could even write an essay on the subject to point people at.  However, I also completely agree with Ataru's assessment.  &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 14:54, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) First it's take all fanon to the SW Fanon wiki, next it's take all jokes to Darthipedia, then it's take all non-Star Wars related stuff to Wikipedia. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 17:54, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Per Ataru, but minus the "BAH!!!".  Chack Jadson  Talk 18:01, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Find something constructive to make policy about (consider this a neutral vote)

 * 1) "...failure of the 'edit number cap' thing" ??? If they are under that cap, it shouldn't bother you. And if you don't want to see it, don't look at it. I hate fanon with a passion but I ignore it. As long as it's in the user space, it's not hurting anybody. I'd like to vote "Yes" just to not have to hear about it again. But I think a better way would be to add talking about fanon in the CT to the bannable offenses because we've rehashed this so many times. Just leave it alone for goodness sake. We've wasted more time coming up with policies than anybody has spent enforcing them. And they've probably caused the people enforcing them to spend more time worrying about fanon than and less time making constructive edits to the main namespace than if everyone who didn't want to see fanon just ignored it. (end rant). Wildyoda 15:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Comments
Oh, not this again...Unit 8311 09:34, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Wait, so we have a "problem", yet the community has repeatedly stated in the past that it's not a problem in overwhelming terms?? 9_9 Now that makes sense. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 14:34, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Damn you Ataru, that's exactly what I was about to say...:) anyway, I agree with DarthMRN that we need some sort of middle compromise, to make it fair. Unit 8311 15:27, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I think "middle ground" is the policy we currently have. Wildyoda 15:46, 3 September 2007 (UTC)