Talk:Ahsoka Tano/Legends

Come on...
... the Togruta on the poster CAN only be her... 24.17.73.18 06:29, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Almost undoubtedly, but no confirmation = no inclusion. And sign your name on a talk page. Firebird 15:50, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Asoka Picture
Chack Jadson and I have been having an arguement over wether or not to post an Asoka picture I found on her page. Chack says it is too bad quality. What I say is, hey, it's the only Asoka picture we have! We might as well put it on to let people have an idea (even if it is a vague one) of what she looks like. This is the picture: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Tortuga_Lightsaberist_against_droid_starfighter.JPG Daniel0605 21:09, 5 December 2007 (UTC) Daniel0605 15:27, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Normally, I'd agree...but...really. That screenshot is just shit. Simply put. Really...it's impossible to get any worse. That sort of thing needs to stay away from this place. -- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|25px]] (Talk) 21:13, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * You know I worked hard to get the images from the computer monitors shown for only a second during the Clone Wars videos, and you're calling my work shit. It seems you Wookiepedians are'nt very nice, or encouraging to new members.  And I still disagree with you about the picture.  The picture really tells a lot.  It tells that Asoka is a Togruta Jedi, with a green lightsaber, that fights a Vulture Droid.  I might just put the picture on.  Even if you guys don't like it.  Thanks for discouraging me to use Wookiepedia.
 * Bear in mind that Redemption's views don't necessarily represent the views of the wiki. And the image is poor, though it does give us some information on the character. Why don't you just add the information in the text of the article, and wait until you or another can get a better and more suitable image? --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 16:14, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah. I guess I'll do that.  Though I can still post a link to the picture, right? Daniel0605 16:51, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Well...it would appear to have been deleted, I'm afraid. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 16:57, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * So should I re-upload it to Wookiepedia, or just upload it somewhere else and put the link here?Daniel0605 17:06, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I uploaded a slightly different version of the old infobox picture. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 18:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Spelling

 * Hello, I'm just wondering if the spelling of Asoka has been seen anywhere (I know in the interview with George Lucas that it sounds like this). However, according to Lego's preliminary image of an AT-TE (loacted here), Asoka is clearly spelt Ashoka. Of course Lego could have it wrong at the moment but this is the only spelling of the name that I've seen. 21:41, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
 * A-H-S-O-K-A right??????? well i can't wait!!! april 15th right???? omg im so excited. i want to see it the first day it comes out. WAIT Anakin can have a padawan?? I thought only masters could oh well <**> Ewokmenace 20:53, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Fourth para of Biography reads "After securing the Monastery, they discovered a protocol droid named 4A-7 who informed them the Huttlet was being in the dungeons." The end of that sentence should read "being HELD in the dungeons."  Obi-Ben Wasabi 00:37, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You know, if you see an error, you should fix it instead of complaining about it. Luckily I was here and I fixed it. Dr.Kermit 17:44, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Likely Fate
When I saw that Ahsoka would be Anakin's padawan, I was instantly troubled. Let's face it, Ahsoka wasn't in Episode II or III, and she existed between them. Though it's pure speculation, I worry for Ahsoka's life, because her absense in the movies is disconcerting. Her fate may be sealed before she's even introduced. 24.192.93.57 01:38, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * and so was Obi-Wan's, Anakin's, Yoda's, etc... But we still watched the prequels. Oyam5000 02:37, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I've been discussing the possibility she's killed by Dooku at some point, which I think would add a lot of extra depth to Anakin vs Dooku in Ep III. But I agree that it's almost certain she doesn't survive this series. - Amrita Glittersong 04:37, 1 February 2008 (UTC)


 * That's probably the best suggestion I've heard yet, Amrita.--Ob1 20:51, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk pages are for discussion of the article, not the subject. Please take it elsewhere. - Lord Hydronium 06:23, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Only a Jedi knight or Master can have a padawan. In the cartoon series of Clone Wars, after Anakin is knighted he has no time to have an apprentice, as he is in loads of sieges on the Outer Rim. Darth Oompa Loompa 18:40, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Not true Oompa. Obi-Wan is barely a knight following Qui-Gon's death in Phantom Menace and Anakin is given to him as a Padawan. Also, from the brief glimpse given in the trailer, she is sent by Yoda to Obi-Wan and Anakin, so apparently, she also was in the sieges in the Outer Rim. Starwarsgm

Could she be killed by Asajj Ventrss (did i even spell it right) but she dies refffering to Asajj, in one of the dvd versions or what ever right the animated one or she could ed up like uhhh whats er face CALLISTA and not really have a destiny that we know of (or at least I don'tEwokmenace 20:56, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Drsdino: prehaps she just falls to the dark side and becomes Asajj's appretince and then is redemd by Anikan or Obi-Wan sometime during the series, anyway this is just off the top of my head and possibley exiled from the core worlds in a maner simeralier to the jedi exile but then again that just a theory I don't really have any idea how the movie or the serias may turn out.

She could be most likely be killed by Grievous. He'd love to add Ahsoka's lightsaber to his collection, so let's not forget him. 198.7.229.2 16:29, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree. She'll probably die in the clone wars episodes. Unless she took her own course away from Anakin and Obi-wan around the end of the series. She might be killed by Asajj? Isn't there a picture of them facing Asajj? JediNTT307 19:10, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

I would say that she may have become a Knight and could have been on a mission survived the Great Jedi purge but meets up with her master, who tries to entice her to be his apprentice to overthrow the emperor. But it's just my theory.--Unic of the borg 02:02, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I tend to agree Unic that we may not know her ultimate fate by the end of the series. However I think we may simply see her become a Knight and her story parallel to events in Episode III could be taken up in future shows/films/games etc. If she is killed, I lean toward Dooku. Forceleashlaw 21:59, 6 October 2008 (UTC)forceleashlaw 6:02 6, October 2008

I actually doubt that she dies, its a kids show and i dont think they whould kill there favorite jedi. --User:Axx1000 7:14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * well she has to die doesnt she????? she isnt in any of the others so unless they remade the 4th and 5th and 6th which would be supid they have to have her die
 * You need to sign your posts, Starwarsnerd1842, with ( ~ ). There is no indication that she does die. Kazdan Paratus did not die at the commencement of Order 66, and neither did Rahm Kota nor Shaakti Ti or her padawan Maris Brood. Just because a Jedi does not appear in IV, V, or VI does not mean that they died either (Maris Brood went on to become one of the survivors of the Great Jedi Purge. Luke and others assumed that he was the 'last' of the Jedi, however, upon establishing the Jedi Praxeum, Empatojayos Brand, T'ra Saa, and some of Ephaan Kenzon's students joined Luke Skywalker. Gethralkin 04:22, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

This space is used for discussion relating to changes to the article, not for a discussion about the topic in question. - Lord Hydronium 02:09, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * On the subject of the article. A mention of Skywalker's failure to achieve the rank of Master should be mentioned in the BTS.  It must be worded in such a way as to avoid speculation.  Anyone Disagree?IthinkIwannaLeia 18:11, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * On the subject of the article. A mention of Skywalker's failure to achieve the rank of Master should be mentioned in the BTS.  It must be worded in such a way as to avoid speculation.  Anyone Disagree?IthinkIwannaLeia 18:12, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Personally I hope she doesn't die. I really do. Perhaps she will live in hiding/self-exile like Yoda/Obi-Wan? If she were to die, could Anakin - evil as Vader is - do it? I don't think he could. It'd be like him killing R2.

well he did try to kill obi didnt he...and ahsoka, being a kid and obi being a master, would be easier to kill. also if he could do it to his master, who as obi-wan put it, like a brother...i think hed do the same to his padawan. the relationship is bacicly the same

I think she might fall to the Dark Side. Perhaps she may kill Asajj Ventress and become Count Dooku's new apprentice.

they would kill her. they killed nadar veebb216.109.0.5 21:24, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Padawan
Hang on- 'She showed eagerness to prove herself worthy to be the Padawan of Anakin Skywalker...'. This means she wanted to be Anakin's apprentice! It does'nt say if she was. Darth Oompa Loompa 18:56, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

And, maybe she wanted to be his apprentice to get powerful! I sense the Dark Side in our midst! Darth Oompa Loompa 18:59, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Alas, the original text of the article on starwars.com states "This young Togruta is eager to prove herself as a worthy Padawan to her bold Master, Anakin Skywalker" (italics mine). jSarek 19:04, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Damn! Darth Oompa Loompa 20:32, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh wait, administrator. Sorry. Darth Oompa Loompa 20:34, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Appearance

 * Ahsoka's facial markings dont match that of a Togruta, and her skin is very orange. Is the picture on her profile a rough draft or did the artists intend on having her look different? Greekpimp 23:44, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

She has a lekku. Darth Oompa Loompa 18:39, 6 February 2008 (UTC)


 * No, i understand that she has smaller lekku due to age, but a normal Togruta has white spots around their eyes and a more red complexion. Ahsoka doesnt have the red skin or the white patches.... Greekpimp 00:38, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That's probably an example of Togruta genetic diversity.
 * If the people who made Clone Wars say she's a Togruta, she's a Togruta.

The reason for her facial markings is because she is not in the same clan as the other Tugruta that we have seen, each clan has its own pattern. check out the Tugruta page. Ivel 19:05, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * If anything, her montrails are total BS in relation to how younger Togruta are depicted (see Ashla).-- Goodwood [[Image:Redstarbird.svg|20px]] ( Alliance Intelligence ) 11:26, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well actually there is a diffrence Ashla is only 3 or 4. Why'll Ahsoka is 8 to 12 years old see there is a time diffrence. Ivel 01:10, 25 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I thought her montrals and lekku would be alittle longer/higher since she's around 11-14. her lekku are way short, and Shaak Ti's go down to her waist. I would have thought that Ahsoka's lekku would at least go to her cheast. JediNTT307 19:11, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Has it been considered that the shorter lekku are a change made in interest of technical limitations? She's a pretty major character with a lot of action sequences, and longer lekku would be much more difficult, time consuming, and harder on the computers to animate. Vongchild 23:01, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Togruta don't have lekku. Lekku are the names for the twi'lek headtails, they have a different name because they serve a practical function of housing part of the brain. Togruta head tails are not called lekku. 82.19.167.91 07:17, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * They are in Shaak Ti's Databank entry. -- Ozzel 07:53, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I do believe that is an error on the side of the databank, Ozzel. They are NOT called lekku, those are the Twi'lek headtails or braintails. I believe that we should call these headtails on Togruta sense tendrils, or some form of extra-sensory tendril. 203.123.89.166 10:30, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

ok, for one she is not 14..official starwars sites state they wanted the show aimed for 12 yr olds so they added a 11 yr old. 2nd, shaak ti does have much longer tails but she is a few decades older. she is an adult...30ish at least. ahsoka is 11, yeah hers are gonna be smaller. evventually they will grow out

More Character/plot Info
Just checked a new video on hyperspace, which goes in to more detail about why Anakin has a Padawan, turns out the Council are trying to teach Anakin about his trouble with attachment, and in letting her go upon completion of her training he will attain the Rank of Master Adamqd 15:20, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Source for Information?
Do we have a source stating that she and Anakin would encounter Ventress? Darth Anakin 15:39, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I've heard that Obi-Wan enocunters Ventress instead. (which is also in the trailer)  Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 00:44, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Age?
I didn't think the character would be 11 years old? Seems to be alittle young. Do the Togruta Species age differently from humans?

Actually, it is likely she is 11. Somewhere I heard the directors wanted her to be young. The Jedi had to be chosen by 13, or they would be assigned to the AgriCorps, so she couldn't be 14.Corellian Premier 13:56, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

but it says that she was picked unusually young as a padawan. 11 isn't unusually young, it's getting on the older end of the spectrum. 7 would be young, not 11.

Yeah Corellian, you're right. maybe she was picked like how Obi-Wan was picked.--Ob1 13:27, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

The show states, in the episode with Plo Koon, that she is 14. Gethralkin 23:06, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Death
Seems like the new trailer shows her death at 1:57. Dreossk | 19:31, 11 June 2008 (UTC) Ya wrong Dreossk.--Ob1 13:34, 26 December 2008 (UTC) She most likely died during the Great Jedi Purge. B-52 03:41, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * which trailer?Meesa yoda 20:03, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809991325/video/8273357 [[Image:DreosskBlanc.jpg|20px]] Dreossk  | 21:55, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That is sad, only having a padawan for 1-3 yearsMeesa yoda 22:05, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Um, that's a 2 second shot of her switching off her lightsabre and dropping to her knees. If you think that's her death then Obi-Wan must've died in the middle of the trailer when he took that leap off the tall building. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 22:59, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * And then Anakin must have died when the droidekas surrounded him. They show characters in near-death scenes to dramatize it.  Ahsoka certainly isn't going to die at the beginning of the series, and if she was they wouldn't show it in the trailer.  Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 01:52, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No, they don't show Obi-Wan and Anakin in a dying state. [[Image:DreosskBlanc.jpg|20px]] Dreossk  | 11:28, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes they do, because if dropping to your knees and de-activating your lightsabre is a "dying state" then so is jumping off a tall building and being surrounded by droidekas. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 11:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Uh, no. They do that all the time. [[Image:DreosskBlanc.jpg|20px]] Dreossk  | 11:47, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * They do? With lightsaber de-activated?  And what makes that less dangerous than almost falling down a large building or object high above the ground?  I would find it easier in the GFFA to  climb back up a building than avoid the blaster bolts of five to ten droids at the same time without a lightsaber.  Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 12:39, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't we have to give them credit that they are better trained and that Anakin is the chosen 1?Meesa yoda 15:34, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
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 * Most likely? From looking at the list of Order 66 survivors to Order 66 victims, the most likely possibility seems to be that she'll survive. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 14:33, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well... she wasn't created then. Plus, I doubt thy will reveal her ultimate fate for some time.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 14:41, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, in all likelyhood, she'll be killed in battle in a cheesy way like Chewbacca was or something. I don't think Lucas Arts would go so far as to kill her off by Anakin's hand though, and, because of cliche stubborn attitude, she'd refuse to be let go free by Anakin, instead, she'd try to turn him back, but would obviously have to fail, and I don't know where LA would go after that, unless Palpy kills her or something... Drewton is probably right though, they'll probably keep her 'death' ambiguous to 1) come up with an idea of how to do it, 2) to drag out the upcoming series. 129.107.81.12 04:03, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know about that, I saw a clip somewhere of Ahsoka backing away fearfully from what looked like a BLUE lightsaber. It's probably something different, but it could possibly be her death :'(.  Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Togrutalover 00:45, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * She Must die before the purge she is not in the third movie

The visual dictionary of Star Wars: The Clone Wars indicates that she is approximately 14. That's too old to be chosen as a padawan traditionally, but you have to remember that this is a time of war.

I am not sure how she exactly will die but it must be something so bad that nobody would ever want to mention it because then how would that fit in with the storyline??--Csbailey1220 02:32, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Please do not continue this discussion here. It has no bearing on the article at this time. What has a bearing on the article is what needs to be posted here, not a speculative discussion. Gethralkin 03:38, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Clothes & Age
Does anyone else think it's weird that they put a 11-14 year old girl (also being a Jedi) in such revealing clothes? Why didn't they just put her in the regular tunic? I mean, a tube top? JediNTT307 19:09, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Same reason as with Aayla Secura I guess. But still, Aayla wore robes as padawan... Mauser 19:19, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I realise Ahsoka is young, but perhaps Togruta age differently from that of humans and other species. She does seem older and more intelligent for her age that the average human 11/14 year old. Is there any info on Togruta lifespans and their ageing process?

i wonder if she might have romantic feelings for anakin later on the series if she lives in the movie or series that is because of anakin lack of guidance on this might effect her judgement later on i just like to bring this upJedi knight 21:19, 27 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Maybe for Togrutas that is acceptable or something. But I do agree that her clothing is a little more suited for someone whos older. Shaak Ti dresses pretty modest and shes still a Togruta.Greekpimp 23:27, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know the in-universe answer. But in real-life, it's pretty typical of many SW female character. Sex sells, it's why Aayla Secura was dressed that way and made such a big deal out of (as opposed to several other Jedi - comparatively, she adds almost nothing to the plot itself in the movie). Not to mention the whole Leia-in-metal-bikini thing, as well as Padme with her torn clothes vs. not-torn clothes seen in EP II, as well as why Shak Ti is wearing a lot less in The Force Unleashed. Sex sells. Anyway, yeah, it probably is going too far with a fourteen year old, regardless of her in-universe maturity, because little kids won't understand that concept, and kids will question it, especially young girls, there's no doubt about that. 129.107.81.12 04:13, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Ahsoka looks good to me. At least it's better than nothing or a slave outfit. She has a certain appeal to me and maybe the clothes will help her in infiltration. Aayla used her "Natural Gifts" to get information, so why not Little Soka? Maybe she could use her feminine wiles to seduce information out of an organic enemy with those clothes. Wallflowerlover284Angel of Death 17:11, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Please remember that a talk page is not a forum. It is a place to discuss how to improve the article Dr.Kermit 19:51, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Togruta Jedi wear that kind of thing as it's traditional amongst their species (along with jewellery and face paint etc.). Again, I refer to Star Wars: The Clone Wars, The Visual Dictionary.

Maybe it's just that it's easier to animate than having her in billowing cloaks.

If you look closely, you can see the top of a tunic of similar color to her skin, like, a shade or two off. I didn't spot this until I checked the Visual Guide, (The page in particular is 14). If you look closely, you can (barely) make out the difference, so it's safe to say she's in a near-full body suit, but this is just a theory on my part and my eyes devicing me. Luke Danger 23:54, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

she is 11, and yeah the togrutos dress like that. also, everyone makes a big deal about ahsoka abut did you see aayla????? her shirt hangs down way low and her pants are dangerously low. and also, padawans dont really dress with the billowing robes and cloaks. and her flexible cloathes help with her speed. do you think shaak ti could jump nad rolll around like that with her massive clothes? no, so in order to have ahsoka fast, small, and flexible they had to have her wear something practical for battle. i personaly love it!

uh, Shaak Ti wore revealing clothes during the Great Jedi Purge.--Ob1 21:00, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

New info from Visual Guide
Publisher's website:
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and I mirrored it here at my website:
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Has info on her acting as Blue Leader, being found 14 years ago by Plo Koon, a confrontation with Grievous, and other stuff.

Name?
Ahsoka is probably a play on Ashoka the Great, a historical Indian general, and the Ashoka Chakra, but we should confirm which one before mentioning it in Bts.Tocneppil 21:02, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Age accuracy
Was she really born in 36 BBY? If she's "too young to be a padawan", then wouldn't she be born later? According to that she's at least 16, too old to be a padawan. According to that, she should be in one of the Service Corps. 209.244.43.211 19:45, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * She's 14. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 21:50, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * He's right, man. And technically, she was born in 34 BBY. Anakin wasn't a Jedi Knight until 20 BBY (which I tried to explain to you guys several times before). If Ahsoka was fourteen in that time, she had to have been his Padawan some time after the Battle of Praesitlyn. Remember that? So if I were you, I'd correct the birth date. 71.161.228.122 17:45, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * TCW is set in 22 BBY. 22 + 14 = 36. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 17:51, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, and if you hadn't noticed, Anakin was still a Padawan at 22 BBY. Honestly, he wasn't even ready then until his promotion two years later. But if what you're saying is true, then we should demand a talk with those who run the SW website about this confusion! We'll sue!!! 131.109.225.3 20:18, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I think that's a little harsh. And what do u mean WE?--Ob1 21:04, 16 February 2009 (UTC) The official timeline on SW.com is one thing, but Lucas has stated before that the movie time lines trump all. His story is one thing, all the outside stories of the books/games/etc are another.
 * Many, many people here on the Wookieepedia are already aware of when Anakin became a Padawan, received his scar etc., etc., and the problems The Clone Wars thus causes in clashing with established canon. However, the official dating of the new film is 22 BBY and no amount of wailing and gnashing of teeth will change that. You'll just have to patiently (and perhaps, even politely?) wait for an official re-examination of the timeline, like the rest of us are doing. -Kev-La Ttolya 20:32, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Ahsoka is Not Shaak-Ti
Ahsoka at the end of this article is accredited as being the Togruta Shaak-Ti from Star Wars: Clone Wars the animation. As the movie Star Wars: The Clone Wars is the first appearance of Ahsoka she has yet to A: be killed. Or B: fight General Grievous. I can not change this on the page because it has been locked. -- Sir Hat
 * It says nothing about her being Shaak Ti. It says she has a fight with Grievous, which is from The Clone Wars Visual Dictionary, which covers the movie and the upcoming TV series. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 10:21, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, I had not seen that. Is there a place I can read this online to clarify?

Biography
I haven't actually seen the movie yet, but her biography reads way too much like a report on a single mission. Do we really need specific details about the battle in her biography? --Joseph Leito 01:25, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I added some section titles to break it up. At this point, we don't know a whole lot more than that one mission, but we'll have a lot more to work with when the show and comics start. -- Ozzel 01:37, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with Joseph....but he posted that in August. Its December now and her biography is way to big. Things need to be either reworded, taken out, or summarized. I personally dont think I should be in charge of that but it still needs to be done. Any volunteers?? Greekpimp - Talk 03:00, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Padawan Age?

 * As stated above on this page, Ahsoka was 14 by the time she was apprenticed to Anakin, and the article states that Ashoka was "promoted to Padawan earlier than normal", and I seem to recall this being mentioned in the movie. But Obi-Wan was sent away from the Jedi at the age of 13 because he was too old to become a Padawan. So did the Jedi Order change something in this space of time, or is there a mistake somewhere? Sorry if this isn't very relevant for the talk page, but if this is a mistake on the article's part, it should probably be changed. 06:53, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe the 13 agelimit is set only to Humans. It's is possible that other species with other maturing period have other limits. Darth Morrt 07:43, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * According to fluff from WotC's Ultimate Alien Anthology (grain of salt, much?) Togruta adolescence lasts longer than human (12 to 17, versuses 12 to 15). So it's possible that Ahsoka's young for her species, probably equivalent to 12-going-on-13. Which still should be similar to the old 13-year-old cut-off Obi-Wan experienced. Dunno. Jedi Master Randy Starkiller 17:32, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't forget that the jedi are short of force-users due to the war, so they probably promoted her just to throw more bodies on the front lines. Either way it'll probably be explained in the series.Tocneppil 00:47, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

she is 11, the official starwars sites state it and i think they are smarter then a bunch of peorple who think they know what they are talking about but dont

Canon Status
I know that Ahsoka has been declaired canon but doesn't this conflict with other sources that claim that Anakin had no apprentice at the time of Episode three or immediately before. Will we have to edit other articles or has a "dominate canon" not been yet established? Ryan Fett  ( For Mandalore! ) 23:52, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The Clone Wars Movie and TV show is screwing up alot of canon sources we have. (mostly just the CW comics and novels) It's going to run over a few things and make TCW canon instead of other stuff. So it i don't see why it wouldn't dominate some little things that happened in the move. JediNTT307 22:21, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yea but, the EpIII is like... mega-canon. Sadly, George made The Clone Wars, which contradicts Ep III, hold the same canonity (that a word?). So how? Unless, TCW is held in an alt reality, or everyone gets mindwiped. Talk about duex ex machima.
 * You need to sign your posts on talk pages. The TV series does not have the same canonical value as the films. The films are G-canon and the games, EU stories, etc., are C-canon. The TV series is T-canon, which takes precedence over C-canon, but not G-canon. However, in the case of Ahsoka being Anakin's padawan, there was no mention in the films that Anakin never had an apprentice. This left the door open to give him one. He didn't have to be a Master to take on an apprentice, and it was, in fact, one of the final deciding factors of whether or not a Knight was 'Master material'. Obviously, Anakin failed the test. Gethralkin 13:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Great Jedi Purge
Does anyone know her fate durring Order 66 and Great Jedi Purge. Do they leave her fate blank, so they dont have to say she died with other younglings
 * We haven't been given a canonical answer for her fate.  IFYLOFD  ( And now, young Skywalker, you will die. ) 03:17, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Is Asoka the youngling from ep 2 the same as Ahsoka
Its kinda odd that ther's a Togruta youngling named Ashla and then in the Clone wars movie right after ep 2 there's a new padawan Ahsoka and they're both Togrutas. So I was thinking are they the same people or are they different. I nkow they have different names but the connection is so evident. This is Ashla (Jedi)) Platinumplatypus 22:26, 7 November 2008 (UTC)]].
 * They're different people: Ashoka looks completely different and is quite a bit older. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 22:33, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree with Silly Dan here. They're completely different.


 * This youngling looks like a boy anyway


 * Actually, if you look at the gallery on the Clone Wars DVD, there's an illustration of Ahsoka when she was called Ashla, and the youngling looks about as old as Ahsoka was in Episode II. So Ashla is the same person as Ahsoka!
 * No. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 18:59, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

What happened to her
It doesn't say in the article whatr happened to her. Where is she in Episode III? Did she die or something? -- MichaelCrichtonfan24 (PF24) ( Talk ) It is my regret to inform you that Michael Crichton has died of cancer. I am sad. 02:47, 9 November 2008 (UTC) I agree with Mikah probably to give a few guesses in the end of Clones Wars, Yoda did say about Anakin giving her up.
 * She doesn't necessarily have to be in Episode III to have survived. (Especially considering she was created after the fact.) Her fate after the Clone Wars film simply hasn't been revealed as of yet. // ~mikah~  03:01, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Ahsoka's Eyes
Ahsoka Tano's eyes have pupils, while neither Ashla's nor Shaak Ti's eyes contain pupils or color. Is there some canonical significance to this that needs to be included in this article? Qui-Gon Reborn 00:16, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ashla has pupils in the above picture. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 08:23, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You may be thinking of the stylized version of Shaak Ti from the original "Clone Wars" cartoon. Also, your signature is broken. - Milo Fett [Comlink] 18:05, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, my signature doesn't seem broken. What happened?  And what I mean is that Ahsoka's eyes have blue in them, while neither Shaak Ti nor Ashla nor any other Togruta I've seen had eyes like that.  But, oh well.  Just a curiosity.Qui-Gon Reborn 02:23, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You didn't close the "green" tag in your signature, so it makes all text after it green. But if you mean irises instead of pupils, I think you're right. - Milo Fett [Comlink] 15:23, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Lightsaber Style
To my understanding Ahsoka uses Shien (it's farily obvious). Perhaps this should be mentioned in the article?


 * Well, to my understanding Reverse Grip Shien was first mentioned in a tiny role-playing supplement with an incredibly awkward description, never specifically mentioning "Reverse Grip." And then Wookieepedians got carried away with it and made a bunch of assumptions, like you are now. Then there's the contradictions about the styles themselves. Sometimes they are described as a fighting philosophy. If that's the case, you can't be sure that she isn't just using a reverse grip version of another style. Sometimes it's described as a hard-style, like a real world Martial Art. And if that's the case, you can't be certain she's an adherent. Until a source flat-out states that Ahsoka uses Shien, it is considered speculation. And speculation has always seemed ugly in a reference source. SinisterSamurai 06:44, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Shien by itself (not as part of the Form V fighting style) is a style where the user wields a blade with a reverse grip. In this case, Ahsoka is a user of Shien. // ~mikah~  19:21, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Whats the source for the statement that Anakin is going to try and break her habit of using a reverse grip? Without a source we would have to delete it because it seems like an assumption.Rayn3000 22:35, 20 December 2008 (UTC)User:Rayn3000
 * The source is Dave Filoni in his interview with Ashley Eckstein. Gethralkin 04:58, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * And a link to that interview can be found at Forum:SH: Ahsoka's Lightsaber Style. 96.240.215.245 06:00, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Is she really only 11?!
The article now states that she is 11. I was under the impression that she was 14, due to what was said in "Star Wars: The Clone Wars - The Visual Dictionary, published by DK. The reference to her being 11 states that George himself said she was 11. But then again he isn't the director of this, Dave Filoni is (so George may be wrong). My brain hurts now. PS: If she really is 11, her DOB still says 36 BBY (making her 14).
 * Where does the article say she's 11? --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 13:13, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

It says in the article about Jedi that a youngling must be chosen by a Knight to be his/her Padawan by the age of 13, or he/she will be assigned to one of the Jedi Service Corps. She is a Padawan to Anakin Skywalker. So it's obvious that she's 13 or under, not 14 as some people here suggested. DinoTyrannus
 * Wrong, Databank says she's 14. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 14:37, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Apparently, the usual youngling restrictions have been relaxed due to the war (I seem to remember some other precedent for that, but cannot pinpoint it). Or maybe Ahsoka had a previous master who might have died during the war after being with her for one year. It is not absolutely neccessary for her to be 11. I'm with I.n.a.n.--Skippy Farlstendoiro 14:45, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Look at the movie "Star Wars: The Clone Wars." Anakin said to her when he met her "Aren't you a little young to be a Padawan?" 14 is, under normal cicumstances, considered to old to become a Padawan. While Farlstendoiro has a point about youngling restrictions being relaxed due to the state of the war, that quote just screams in your face that she isn't 14. DinoTyrannus
 * And the Databank explicitly and plainly states that she is. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 22:01, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Have you considered that the Databank may be wrong? It was written by humans, and all humans make mistakes once in a while. I'm just using simple logic to determine my opinion of things. DinoTyrannus 04:12, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

In the "Behind The Scenes" section of the article, it states that George said she was 11 - but as we know she's 14. the DataBase says she's 14, the visual dictionary says that she's 14, this article even has her as being 14. If the DB changes to say that she's not 14, then we'll change the article; if not, then we'll leave it as is, as all reliable sources other than George say that she's 14. And let us not forget, George isn't directing (or even writing! He is producing however, and therefore has quite a major input, but not as big as Dave Filoni) this project.

the databank is idiotic and george and the other people on the starwars project know beteer then fans who have no evidence


 * That might be a viable explanation if Clone Wars didn't already play puppetmaster with the concept of Star Wars canon. Sources indicate that she's either 14 or 11, neither of which lend the idea that she's "too young to be a padawan" or even given the position earlier than usual (Heck, Episode I canonically establishes that Anakin was granted the position at age 9...without comment on him being too young to be a padawan).  Historically, the rule regarding padawan age has been established as "you have to become one by the age of 13" for the time period (established at least by the publication of The Rising Force, though Lucas' perspective on the rule's canon status is uncertain as far as I know).  And then there comes the issue of Revenge of the Sith, which establishes that Anakin never attained the rank of master, meaning that either Ahsoka died or left the Order...while Anakin's characterization (not to mention the dialogue of Revenge of the Sith) indicates neither of these things, much less that he even had a padawan at any point. (granted though, this is likely due to the fact that during the production of RotS, Ahsoka probably wasn't even an idea in her creator's mind).  Let's face it, no matter which source we use here, there will be things that draw the conclusion into question.  Far better that the conflicting official sources get acknowledged than ignored.  141.166.235.26 04:34, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The fact that Anakin never attained a master's rank doesn't necessarily mean that she died or left the order. Regardless if Anakin successfully trained her to become a knight or not, a flaw in his personality prevented him from advancing as it normally would happen. Let's just watch the show and quit speculating in this talk page on what happens to Ahsoka, because until it airs, it isn't going to be included in the article. In any case, she is 14 according to the TV show, as it explains how Master Plo found her as an infant "14 years ago." Gethralkin 22:56, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Page Locked
Currently the article about Ahsoka has been locked to prevent editing. How is anybody supposed to improve the article if nobody is even able to edit it? It makes no sense. DinoTyrannus
 * It's locked only to anonymous and newly registered editors; that's to keep it from being spammed or inundated with poor quality edits or fanon, as users who have registered and been here for a little while are considered more likely to be interested in making constructive edits. We do this for pages that expect to see a lot of views or editing, like main characters in new sources like The Clone Wars; feel free to register if you're interested in editing, but even if you don't most articles can be edited by anyone. - Lord Hydronium 21:47, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Eye color
Is the phrase "bluish-grey" really necessary under "eye color"? Blue and grey are just different shades of the same color: blue. Is this description used because she is not human? Rain Thalo 01:14, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

It might just be a cultural thing, but I've always known gray to be the halfway color between black and white. I do however find "bluish-gray" a little weird, since her eyes could easily just be described as blue.--Anderson 08:50, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

So is it worth changing it to just plain blue? Rain Thalo 21:26, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I have changed it to blue. The reason is because unless there is a clear canonical reference specifying the shade of blue, the primary or secondary color is appropriate. Secondly, the reference superscript on the eye-color links to an article that does not state that her eyes are bluish-gray - it only supplies a screen image. Thirdly, due to the differences in monitor standards with regards to rendering color, the exact hue is not determinable solely by looking at a screen image. Gethralkin 23:15, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

New Content
''Anakin's revivalAhsoka's master was gravely injured in a battle. Ahsoka went with Jedi Master Aayla Secura to a planet to find treatment for her master. While she was with Aayla, Ahsoka learned the Jedi Code of no personal attachments.''

''Separatist weapon scareAnakin healed of his injuries and Ahsoka encountered the pacifist Lurmen while on a mission to destroy a new Separatist weapon. Anakin and Ahsoka must get Lurmen to join the Republic before he and his people lay down and surrender to the Separatist regime.''

Is there a source for all of this?--Anderson 09:43, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Aren't younglings supposed to remember the Jedi Code thouroughly?--Ob1 21:30, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Ahsoka's Death
In Ep 3, When Order 66 is executed, the 2 clones that drop back on the barc's that shoot down the Tortuga, thats Ahsoka's death.
 * No it isn't. Thats the death of Stass Allie. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 05:53, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Though if she dosn't die at some point in or after the series; then wshe will have been killed during the finale events of episode 3.--68.106.214.77 02:17, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Taking joy in the death of a child. It is possible that she escapes like Shak-te or the guy who lives among the garbage. --Chaos Shepherd 16:37, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Not all Jedi were exterminated by Order 66. Many were warned by the sabotaged message that Obi-Wan made, alerting them to the danger that returning to the temple posed. In the acclaimed video game Dark Forces: Jedi Knight, Qu Rahn was such a Jedi. Gethralkin 13:10, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * She would have to die at some point in TCW for Ep. III to make even a lick of sense though. Anakin would have been a master if she had passed Padawan training, though there is a possibility of her becoming a Sith, I suppose. LA really doesn't have another option but to either kill her or turn her into a sith, not a lord (as Dooku was still alive) but more of a diciple.  NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 14:17, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Not necessarily. Successfully training a Padawan does not in itself guarantee a position as a Master. The approval of the Jedi Council is needed as well. From that point of view, it is reasonable to consider that this compounded his bitterness, since his fixation on becoming a Master stemmed from his desire to save Padmé. Even when they gave him a position on the Jedi Council - a post that required the position of Jedi Master to fill - the Council still did not promote him to Master. No, I do not agree that Ahsoka's fate is set in stone to be killed off before the events of Episode III. Gethralkin 23:13, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't mean to seem as though I actually care about hypotheticaal discussions, I think we should just wait and see because there needs to be canon basis for these things. But the passing of a padawan to knighthood, even if he wasn't made a master becase of her passing, would have to weigh on the council's decision of wheter or not he should be made a Master on the council and there really isn't much of a reason not to allow him to become a master until he gets so involved with Palpatine anyway. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 23:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Who lives among the garbage? are you talking about Kazden Paratus?
 * Or she could leave the Order...Rain Thalo 21:18, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * That is a possibility, as well. The point of all of this counter-discussion is that there is no information whatsoever stating the fate of Ahsoka. It is possible that she may die prematurely, however to say that it is a certainty is presumptuous at best. Gethralkin 23:20, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Personally, I keep hoping that someone will write another book series based on some of the survivors of Order 66, and that she will be in it. She is a great character, and she shouldn't have to die so soon. Rogueduelist89 23:29, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Hello, a member of the friendly administration here to remind everyone about the purposes of talk pages. They are for discussing the article, not for speculating about Ahsoka's fate, hoping someone will write a book series about her, or insulting people. Please use them correctly in the future, as repeated violation of our talk page policies will result in administrative action. Cheers, and have a Wookiee-tastic day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 23:27, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

My Guesses
I: She'll sacrifice herself.
 * Well, here are my guesses for Ahsoka's fate:

II: She'll get killed by Dooku.

III: She'll get killed by Asajj Ventress.

IV: General Grievous will get revenge on Ahsoka.

RaidenX 02:08, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Please look at the post directly above yours.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 02:15, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I e-mailed Lucasfilm about Ahsoka's fate and they didn't respond. They'd probably have said she died in or survived order 66, she gets promoted, or "I just have to keep watching The Clone Wars."  Maybe they haven't figured out her fate yet?      - unregistered user

[Note: I edited it as it was put between the link I had put in the commend below and the begining of the comment, done for the sake of archiving this page if needed. Luke Danger 19:13, 18 February 2009 (UTC) ]


 * I'm going to put a link here that we can talk our hearts out on this topic. Yes, it's a general animation forum, but you guys have better ideas? There's a thread in the 'Show Talk' section, the thread is obviously labeled for The Clone Wars.
 * Linky Linky: http://markandbobsforum.proboards83.com/index.cgi?

Hope this helps in keeping the discussion page open. Luke Danger 02:20, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * This is a talk page, not a forum. A note to anyone: kindly refrain from continuing this discussion here.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 02:21, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * My mistake, I meant that the -link- was to a forum, not the talk page. Just thought I'd clear that up first. Luke Danger 02:37, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. My apologies for accusing you; I wasn't sure of your intent.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 23:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

List of Ahsoka's pet names
I thought it would beeb a good idea to list all the little pet names she gives to people, because it apart of her personality and veryones knows the nickname for Anakin Skywalker but what about the other? Like in episode 6 Down Fall of Droid Ahsoka calls Captain Rex "Rexter".


 * That would be adding a pointless category. These expressions do not usually remain consistent, and only reflect the mood Ahsoka is in at the time. Basically, it is her practice of Dun Möch in most cases, and not slang used by anyone other than her. It is not as if a person watching the show does not know what she is referring to at the time of her using a made-up slang term. So creating a category list of so-called "pet names" would just clutter the article with unnecessary content. Gethralkin 00:28, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest making a mention about it in her Personality and traits section(since it is her personality) and list some nicknames there. QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force...[[Image:Quigonheadshot.jpg|16px]] 08:51, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Possible Mention In Coruscant Nights: Patterns of Force
According to a post on the TF.N forums, there is mention in Coruscant Nights III: Patterns of Force of a "Togrutan female" that Jax Pavan helps escape the planet. While I don't think it's explicitly mentioned that it's her (haven't read that far into it yet), can there be any real doubt? I think, at least, it deserves a "possible mention" appearance on the page. TIEPilot051999 16:36, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Because there's only 1 Togrutan female in existence in Star Wars. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 16:56, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It could be Shaak Ti. QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force...[[Image:Quigonheadshot.jpg|16px]] 19:44, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I doubt she was killed by Ventress or Grievous because she has the skill to beat them and has defeated them before
 * The Togrutan in CN3 could be any female Togrutan, as mentioned above. Additionally, Ahsoka did not have the skill to defeat Ventress or Grievous. When confronting Ventress, she had the assistance of Luminara. When confronted by Grievous, she had to retreat even though she lasted a lot longer than most Jedi going up against the cyborg general. Gethralkin 01:01, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

I've read CN3 all the way through and though, unfortunately, that was the first possibility that came to my mind when I read the passages concerning the unidentified Togruta. :-P There exists very little in the way of concrete information concerning her (in fact we never see her in CN3), therefore, even putting down CN3 as a possible mention of Ahsoka strikes me as being way too speculative. --Muuuuuurgh 00:04, 31 January 2009 (UTC)


 * In fact we know that Michael Reeves finished CN trilogy more than a year ago, and therefore could not include Ahsoka because she wasn't even revealed at that point. And I doubt LFL would include her in the last moment, cause we know how much they like to leave character's fates open. Mauser 13:55, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

RIght.I really didnt know what that meant so....yeah. :) --Csbailey1220 03:52, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * This is not a talk forum, it is a discussion involving the improvement of the article about Ahsoka. If you don't have anything valuable to contribute to this page, then please refrain from posting. Gethralkin 06:07, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I think Reeves could have known about Ahsoka before the official release, but I doubt he or anyone else (even Lucas) knew the fate of Ahsoka that time. Reeves could put in a possible appearence: if she won't die, the Torguta could be officially declare as Ahsoka; if she will die, the Torguta is just an unidentified Torguta. With this there could be more tie-in in the EU without the possibility of contradiction. Darth Morrt 20:36, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Again, Ahsoka is not the only Togruta in the galaxy, and trying to figure out how to identify her as the one in CN3 is still speculation and has no bearing on this article. Gethralkin 21:27, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Likely Fate
Maybe Anakin does kill her and covers it up somehow so that no one ever mentions it.--Csbailey1220 22:46, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm just going to repeat what has been said many times, this is not a talk page for what may or may not happen, this is a talk page for how to improve the article. Luke Danger 22:49, 20 February 2009 (UTC)