Wookieepedia:EduCorps/Meeting 1

This page is for the first CA review meeting notes and discussion. Thank you. -- Exiled Jedi   (Greetings)  03:33, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

Rough draft
Note: If the meeting runs for too much over an hour some topics can be held off until a later meeting.
 * 1) Discussion about adding EduCorps-only responsibilities.
 * 2) *The responsibility to review articles on the Comprehensive article nominations page
 * 3) *The responsibility to review articles placed on the Comprehensive article review page
 * 4) *The responsibility to attend the EduCorps meetings
 * 5) Discussion related the assumption of sentience on species CANs.
 * 6) *Can non-sentience ever be inferred?
 * 7) *Where do plants fall in, especially fruits and vegetables.
 * 8) Discussion about whether to include fruits, nuts, and vegetables in the main listing as species or as food.
 * 9) How should should we handle articles that fall at or over 200 words without an intro? Should we:
 * 10) *Notify the nominators and then put the articles on the page if they haven't responded in a couple of weeks?
 * 11) *Just put all of the articles on the review page? (Maybe 10 or so at a time)
 * 12) *Be handled individually in meetings if they are not fixed within a month?
 * 13) *Try some other idea?
 * 14) Discussion about getting a site notice/user messages to tell users about the articles under review.
 * 15) Should quotes, italics, or nothing be used for linking to Hyperspace articles like Dining at Dex's?
 * 16) This question could also be applied to other stories/articles as well.
 * 17) Discussion of individual articles will be held off until future meetings (unless they are all fixed before then).

Problem articles

 * Please add any articles that you find to have unaddressed issues along with a note listing these issues.
 * If you wish to fix an article, please add your name under it and strike it off the list when the issues are resolved.
 * EduCorps/CA maintenance issues lists some articles with issues, but others need to be added here.

Droids

 * Unidentified Tarisian surveillance droid
 * Though I haven't read the book in question, it would appear that the explosion injuring nobody also meant the droid wasn't harmed? Hope the nominator can address this though. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 18:47, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * The source, which is merely a three-paragraph "weird news" story in the back of a KotOR issue, does not give any indication as to the droid's fate, nor does it make clear whether "No one was injured in the ensuing blast" (the source's words) refers only to living beings or to the droid as well. &mdash;MJ&mdash; Training Room 18:57, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * In that case, I'll strike this. 501st  dogma ( talk ) 20:08, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

Locations

 * Alchenaut
 * Caramm V
 * Drezzi
 * Removed four words. Cheating, I know, but it was a wordy sentence anyway. Menkooroo (talk) 01:21, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Enrichment Dome
 * Ivatch
 * Mairne
 * Morodin homeworld
 * Also this? Menkooroo (talk) 00:58, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Nigel III
 * Outer Rim Oreworks Market
 * Peirs
 * Whoosh. Menkooroo (talk) 02:36, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Slotern
 * I was going to fix this one, but I'm unsure about the infobox's affiliation field. Claiming it's aligned with the Empire based on the info in the article body (a battle without a given result) seems like a stretch. Menkooroo (talk) 02:36, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Solanus
 * The Godsheart
 * Tusken relic cave
 * Unidentified chop shop
 * Widow's Valley
 * Yortal's Emporium
 * Fixed it with a pipelink. Menkooroo (talk) 02:36, August 20, 2013 (UTC)

Organizations

 * 224th
 * This article is also written strangely --- the "History" section follows from the intro rather than introducing everything anew. Due to some creative linking, there isn't actually any intro-exclusive info, but the "History" section should still start by telling us who the 224th are rather than beginning with "Around the year 21 BBY,[2] during the onset of the Clone Wars, the 224th was deployed to the planet Mimban to fight for the Galactic Republic." Menkooroo (talk) 00:40, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * 128th Flight
 * 28th Flight
 * 72nd Flight
 * Asexual Professional Greenputt Tour
 * Fixed. &mdash;MJ&mdash; Council Chambers 19:18, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ebon Squadron
 * Female Professional Greenputt Tour
 * Fixed. &mdash;MJ&mdash; Council Chambers 19:18, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Galactic Solutions Industries
 * Greenputt Governing Council
 * Fixed? &mdash;MJ&mdash; Council Chambers 19:10, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Match Master
 * Menkooroo (talk) 03:13, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Non-Limbed Professional Greenputt Tour
 * Fixed. &mdash;MJ&mdash;</b> Council Chambers</b> 19:18, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Not-Dead-Yet Professional Greenputt Tour
 * Fixed. &mdash;MJ&mdash;</b> Council Chambers</b> 19:18, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Professional Greenputt Tour
 * Fixed. &mdash;MJ&mdash;</b> Council Chambers</b> 19:18, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sernpidal Enforcer
 * Spear Squadron
 * Yan-than

Politics

 * Bill 1979
 * Yes, we should. See Layout_Guide. &mdash;MJ&mdash;</b> Comlink</b> 18:37, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

Starships and vehicles

 * Atrivis Advancer
 * Band Light
 * The Righteous
 * Swift Return
 * Thalmussen
 * I know this is kind of cheating, but I brought it down to 198 by cutting down a wordy sentence. Menkooroo (talk) 00:44, August 20, 2013 (UTC)

Species

 * Aplocaph
 * Ermi
 * Fneeb
 * Jumerian
 * k'Jtari
 * Polosich
 * Qadel
 * Qonto
 * Rseikharhl
 * Saadul
 * Soth Petikkin's species
 * Could have sworn this article was slightly less than 200 words. In any case, I've just brought this to the GAN page. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 22:39, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ubasameir
 * Veeza
 * Vendaran
 * Zoa'mon
 * Sapir
 * Tau serpent
 * Tellanadan moonflower
 * Added to BtS. 501st  dogma ( talk ) 23:49, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Terrafin
 * Unidentified Garqian fowl

Other species notes
The majority of the species articles also need their infoboxes reloaded.
 * There is also a problem with a large number of assumptions for non-sentience.
 * If you find that a source confirms non-sentience/semi-sentience, please strike the appropriate article from the list.
 * Please take any large discussions on the sentience discussion to the discussion section at the end of the article.
 * This issue will be discussed at the meeting as a whole not as individual articles.

Technology

 * Angry machine
 * Done. Menkooroo (talk) 00:53, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Capturing stick
 * DX-300 traffic package
 * Serraknife
 * It looks like this may be one of those rare cases where nothing in the infobox can actually be filled in. The article doesn't even assert that it's a knife, and nothing at all is known about it. Menkooroo (talk) 00:53, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Star Forge Robe

Miscellaneous

 * Aleemas
 * Ambrian cheroot
 * Barrckli
 * Dozoisian shark venom
 * Fizz-Pop Cap (with foil cluster)
 * Grivooga
 * Gungan dunk tank
 * Director of Sienar Marketing Relations
 * Ma'aood
 * Mother Queen
 * Ossluk's gloves
 * Pelemaxian
 * Provost
 * Menkooroo (talk) 03:13, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Tree-drum music
 * Zero-G crystalline chip

Meeting sign up list
Note: The meeting will take place in IRC channel #wookieepedia-educorps on Saturday, August 31st starting at 7 PM ET.
 * 1)  Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  03:33, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * 2) The first ECmoot. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  03:45, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * 3) An EC revolution. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 03:55, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * 4) This looks great as long as we don't discuss each of the listed articles in this one meeting. Also, EJ for EC's executive. Winterz (talk) 04:14, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * 5) Unless something unexpected comes up, I will be there to kill some CANs. 501st  dogma ( talk ) 11:33, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * 6) The EC is stepping up in the world. :P I'll try to be there. MasterFred Commerce Guild.svg<sup style="color:green">(Whatever) 14:31, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * 7) Probably. As an aside, I've gone ahead and set up the channel. Anyone without an IRC account is encouraged to register one. 1358  <sup style="color:#336600;">(Talk)  15:02, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * 8)  Sir Cavalier of One FarStar.svg( Squadron channel ) 17:09, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * 9) I shall try to make an appearance. Gal-icon.jpg  OLIOSTER  (talk) 22:23, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * 10) Since I'm technically an EC, I'll try to make an appearance.  IFYLOFD  ( Enter the Floydome ) 22:24, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

Discussion
Please discuss the meeting and any changes to the EduCorps here:
 * I was thinking that increasing EduCorps-only requirements to where those users are required to review on the CAN page and the CA review page.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  03:33, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * As a random note, I knew back when we first approved the CA process that this would eventually happen. The only surprise is that it took over three years. I suppose it is a change for the better, though, given the large list of problem articles above. &mdash;MJ&mdash;</b> War Room</b> 03:59, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

Discussion about sentience problem

 * Please discuss the sentience problem here: