Talk:Atris

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Atris fits into the model of the Aristotelian tragic hero. She is a basically good person who is taken down by a single flaw, in this case, arrogance. She thought she could stop the Sith by herself. She is even redeemed in the end, like the traditional Aristotelian tragic hero. Varas HalcyonVaras Halcyon.
 * Well, that depends on which ending of K2 you believe in, as there's currently no canonical one. - Sikon [ Talk ] 17:20, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Actually, Sikon, the Lightside Female is canonical, I believe. Besides, we can say it's only with a lightside ending.
 * You're wrong. See Jedi Exile. - Sikon [ Talk ] 14:31, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Actually, you must have missed the bit about them attempting to make the exile female, besdies, in this instance the gender doesn't matter, only the alignment, which is indisputadley lightside. So, canonically, Atris was redeemed. Varas Halcyon


 * The alignment hasn't been decided. As for gender, Chee was only "pushing" for a female Exile, but whether he succeeded is to be revealed. - Sikon [ Talk ] 16:08, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, every other lucasarts game with alingment options is cannonically lightside, and that really is besdies the point. Light or dark Exile, Atris does qualify as an Aristotelian tragic protagonist. Varas Halcyon
 * So put it in "Behind the scenes". Cutch 17:12, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Would it be inappropriate to mention Atris' romantic interest in The Exile regardless of gender? The mention is scant at best but she does repeat her line about caring for The Exile regardless of if you are male or female. -- The only thing that changes is Kreia's interpretation of those feelings and that too could be imbedded in the article. BHRamsay 17:07, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Second Darth Traya
Wouldn't it be fair to mention that she believed she was Darth Traya?

It makes her Sith, after all, even if for a short time. And she does have the knowledge to become Sith, after all.
 * Atris being Traya, really or allegedly, is cut content and therefore non-canon. - Sikon [ Talk ] 13:53, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

"Sith" in the infobox
Will people stop adding "Sith" to the infobox already? (It's funny that it was an IP who reverted it.) Atris never was a Sith, never declared herself a Sith, and never took the title of Sith from any other Sith, self-proclaimed or not. - Sikon (Vacation) 16:43, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


 * As a note, the person who had made the earlier comment wasn't the same as the person editting it, as that was me. Sorry about the IP problem. Anyway, in the KotoR 2 guide, Atris is called Darth Traya, and the guide had a picture of her in other robes below the main picture...does that make her as Darth Traya canon?

It also called Darth Traya 'Kreia' if that helps at all.Sinrebirth


 * Atris-as-Traya is cut, and therefore not canon. - Sikon 06:45, 2 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I personally hope that she is retconned to be the unknown Darth. Darth Kreia, named after the Sith who showed her the truth about herself. DarthMalus

Aristotelian tragic protagonist
Isn't this original research? - Sikon 10:09, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Jedi Guardian figure
I'm sure it's meant to represent Brianna, not Atris - given how the Jedi Consular figure is Mical and the Jedi Sentinel is Visas Marr. Brianna was a Guardian in the game and had a hood. Atris was never identified as a Guardian and didn't have a hood. - Sikon 05:01, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No. It's definitely Atris. She is wearing the exact same robes and there is no hood. Look closely and you can see a few strands of hair on her face and also her ears can be seen. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 05:07, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Then it's weird... - Sikon 06:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

How many lightsabers does she have?
I've never played KOTOR II yet, but she is one of my favorite characters. Anyways, on Wikipedia, under Lightsaber users, it says that Atris has many different colored lightsabers and I don't think that's true. If it is can i see some pics please. thanx DarthKyle 04:43, 27 December 2006 (UTC)