Talk:Imperial escort carrier/Legends

Is the title ok? Lt. 1993 22:56, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
 * You know, I did say to wait... Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.png|20px]] 22:58, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, uhhh... sorry. I made the article while you posted that.
 * Well, it could always be moved if needed... Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.png|20px]] 23:07, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
 * "Imperial Escort Carrier" was used in game DX-2052 02:30, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, isn't that basically what the escort carrier is? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.png|20px]] 12:16, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Capital Ship?
Wouldnt this be a capitol ship? I mean, It carries fighters, it has heavy turbolasers and warhead launchers. I think it should be under capital ship. -- NeoExelor
 * Done. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.png|20px]] 14:30, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
 * There called Capital Ships in game "I've got 3 capital ships entering sensor range" DX-2052 17:46, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, a little too late for that... ;) Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.png|20px]] 17:52, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I know just something I thought I oughta point out for the record DX-2052 01:04, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, thanks. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.png|20px]] 12:59, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Stats?
Where did the weapons and fighter compliment from from? I've talked to people who played the game and they saw nothing but TIE Hunters come from these nor are they sure those are the proper weapon configurations. (forgot to sign)SWVRoma 20:35, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure it's the Rebel Strike Official Game Guide or whatever it's called. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.png|20px]] 20:37, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

No ship that short could carrie 40 fighters. It should be changed to like 24 at maximum.
 * And what is your source? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.png|20px]] 19:50, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

What's your source saying it can carry 40 fighters? The ship simply isn't large enough. In Rebel Strike, this ship launches one group of TIE Interceptors and one group of TIE Fighters when it attacks. No more than 24 ships all together. It never launches bombers either. This article is basically saying a ship about the size of a CR-90 Corvette can carry 30 to 40 fighters. Doesn't that seem a little ridiculous to you?
 * Not if canon says so. Plus, your conclusions have no canonical standing whatsoever. If you find a source saying it can only carry 24 fighters, let us know. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.png|20px]] 00:13, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

It is an escort carrier. It may not look like one, but it has the same purpose. Therefore, it's only common for the ship to carry a high amount of starfighters. They also launch more than TIE Hunters. When I play the Relics of Geonosis mission, all I see are TIE fighters, and later on bombers and interceptors. Super Destroyer 92 23:14, 24 November 2006 (UTC)]]
 * You might want to fix your signature. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.png|20px]] 23:22, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

What? (Super Destroyer 92 00:19, 25 November 2006 (UTC)) Sorry about the mess. (Super Destroyer 92 00:26, 25 November 2006 (UTC)) I've also counted about 6 TIE Interceptors.Gotipe 14:55, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Now it's fixed. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.png|20px]] 00:25, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No need to apologize; it's happened many times before. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.png|20px]] 00:27, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Someone did write 5 TIE/In's under the original 25 TIE/In compliment. I changed it to TIE Hunters, but I do not know the exact number of Hunter's it can take. But, as long as no one changes it.. Another thing I saw was the troops. Of course, there were storm troopers down on Geonosis, but wouldn't a Storm Commando carrier carry Storm Commandos?Gotipe 09:46, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Not necessarily. Imperial escort carriers could simply be commanded by storm commandos. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 20:05, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * That's a point, of course. Just thought the storm troopers in Rebel Strike on Geonosis were somehow included in the Storm Commandos.

Image

 * Does anyone have a better image? This current one stinks. It's blurry, and you can't really see the ship's details. Chack Jadson 01:09, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Funny, it's not blurry to me. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.png|20px]] 11:32, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Same here, clear as clean water. 207.55.94.69 01:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Sarkli's carrier
What source has stated that Sarkli modified his carrier? So far as I know, it's a standard craft.--CT-5619 helmet comlink 17:09, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I think it was in the game guide. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.png|20px]] 22:28, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Mentioned ingame, I think. Someone says "Modified" etc. 16:33, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 21:09, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It might be a little to late to make a remark, but in the game; they mention something about Sarkli's carrier having an advanced reactor that the ship is able to charge up and use to get into hyperspace faster. (Super Destroyer 92 01:36, 24 June 2007 (UTC))

Stats
I've pulled all the stats off the page. People have been very helpful, and checked both the Prima and Nintendo Strategy Guides, and neither has stats. Moreover, some of the stats that were cited on the page, such as the missile launcher, actually belong to the normal escort carrier, not to this ship.

It seems that we're thus dependent entirely on the game for info. If anyone has another source, provide details here. In the mean time, people with the game might be able to help out with evidence:


 * 1) Starfighters: what's the actual count in terms of numbers of fighters in the game. Even this should probably be used cautiously, as game mechanics may make it unreliable.
 * 2) Weapons: what do we see on-screen?
 * 3) Size: the old version of the page said 180m long, 160m wide. Anyone able to prove this?
 * 4) Sarkli's "modified" carrier: the info from User:Super Destroyer 92 should be added, if accurate. But is there anything else to justify Sarkli's ship being described as "modified".

Thanks. --McEwok 15:41, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Update: the IGN walkthrough/FAQ by CyricZ gives the armament as "two bow-mounted laser cannons, two dorsal-mounted turrets, and two ventral-mounted turrets". The dorsal turrets are the prominent topside guns, and I think this image shows the rear ventral turret (when you know what you're looking for, you can just make both of them out here, too). We just need to try to confirm the bow guns, I guess.
 * The three escape pods seem to come from the Geonosis scene. It seems that the troops in them wear ordinary Stormtrooper armour, though, which is odd for Storm Commandos: game mechanics?
 * Anyone else? --McEwok 00:44, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I've previously commented on the troops wearing stormtrooper armor, and I believe that they were simply regular stormtroopers under the command of a storm commando. And I also believe this should be moved back to "Imperial escort carrier"&mdash;that's what it is specifically called in the game. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 12:52, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * "Imperial" escort carrier: Have you actually played the game recently? Can you confirm that this is the the only name this ship is called by&mdash;can you say for certain that it's never called a "Storm Commando escort carrier"? Also, and perhaps even more importantly, are you sure that "Imperial escort carrier" is actually this ship's formal name in the game, rather than simply an indication that it's an "escort carrier" belonging to the Imperial forces?
 * Stormtroopers: these are a puzzle, but as far as I'm aware, they appear only as survivors from Sarkli's ship on Geonosis. It may just be "game mechanics" to put them in ordinary stormtrooper armour, or they may be Storm Commandos wearing normal stormtrooper armour for some unknown reason. It's also possible that they were guards aboard the Imperial prisoner transport which the Rebels captured during the raid on Bakura; transferred to the Rebel transport, they would then be rescued by Sarkli at the same time as he recaptures the prisoners. The most we can say is that Sarkli's ship carries soldiers in normal stormtrooper armour&mdash;probably in the "Behind the scenes" section, too. --McEwok 16:40, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have played the game recently, and it's only called an "Imperial escort carrier". And no, "Imperial escort carrier" is not likely the ship's formal designation, but "Imperial escort carrier" is the only thing it's been called thus far in canon. As for the stormtroopers, it's most logical to say that they were simply stormtroopers. Anything else is fanon. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 17:58, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * "Imperial" escort carrier: even so, a page name like "Escort carrier (Storm Commandos)" would be preferable to "Imperial escort carrier", since that's easily confused with the standard Imperial Escort carrier. Anyone else played the game, anyway?
 * Stormtroopers: "logical" isn't the same as canonical, especially when Storm Commandos are stormtroopers anyway. We have several possible explanations, and no specific canon explanations. --McEwok 15:20, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) No. It is only canonically called the "Imperial escort carrier". Canon is preferred over non-canonical, conjectural names. 2) You have several fanon explanations that are "possible", but you are simply dismissing that they are wearing standard stormtrooper armor. Until another source says otherwise, they were standard stormtroopers, not storm commandos in stormtrooper armor. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 20:03, 11 August 2007 (UTC)