Talk:Lightsaber/Legends

Forms of Lightsaber combat
Firstly, I think that this article should concentrate more on the lightsaber itself, and seperate its information on lightsaber content from it, moving that content to another article. I'm the author of the Wikipedia page on Lightsaber combat; if you guys agree, I would like to send the lightsaber combat stuff over to a Wookiepedia article probably just called Lightsaber combat. I can then copy any other additional information from my original Wikipedia page to that page, such as the "Marks of combat." Lastly, the wording of the information on the seven forms of lightsaber combat in this article looks familiar; could it have been just copied and pasted from somewhere else? I'm against that; I would like to rephrase it if it indeed was copied/pasted.
 * I support the copy of any articles related to Star Wars to this Wiki. I can copy your Lightsaber combat article and you could reword it how you want. -- Riffsyphon1024 18:28, 3 Apr 2005 (EDT)
 * I actually don't feel that a complete rewording is necessary if my original article were to be copied from Wikipedia, since I'm the author of it. I only suggested a rewording in the situation that other Wookiepedians wished not delete the lightsaber combat forms from this article.  I feel that my Wikipedia article is good enough for Wookiepedia (though I plan later to add even more); so I guess it should just be moved and we can leave it that way.  Anyone to second the vote to make a Lightsaber combat page based on my Wikipedia article?
 * I have already copied it. -- Riffsyphon1024 19:51, 3 Apr 2005 (EDT)
 * Where does the Name Lus-Ma come from? As far as I know, the Form is called Niman (at least it is in the KoTOR2)

Whole or Part of this Article is from Wikipedia!
This article has been partially copied from Wikipedia! Is this allowed????? KFan II


 * Wikipedia’s text operates under a GNU Free Documentation License. Hundreds, if not thousands of websites copy Wikipedia essentially word for word (Answers.com for instance), so it is perfectly allowable.--Eion 12:00, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I believe KFan II is munging the issue here (not to say that he has malicious intent). He's asking this question because Darth Fisto and I asked that he not replace existing SWW articles with Wikipedia articles. I believe some of the articles in question were the articles about some of the films, but Darth Fisto has appropriately reverted at least some of these edits. Some of this dispute can be seen on KFan's talk page, as well as my own. -- Aidje 04:08, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

How Lightsabers Work
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/lightsaber3.htm Funny stuff, and some useful info too. --SparqMan 19:55, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Ceremony quotation
The construction ceremony mantra is a nice piece of fluff, but is there a way that we can integrate it into the article? It pushes the start of the text pretty far down. --SparqMan 21:24, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The Quote is said by Lumimara Undui --Dylankidwell

Better version....
In my opinion the lightsaber article on the main Wikipedia website is better than the one here in Star Wars wiki. I tried to put it in here but the pictures do not show up. Could someone move here? - Maphisto86
 * First off, we do not replace entire articles with "better versions on Wikipedia". However you can take sections that we do not have here and blend them in. Images have to be saved and reuploaded. -- Riffsyphon1024 19:03, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh Im sorry...I was unaware that we cannot take articles from wikipedia and use them here. I geuss this site is unaffiliated for some odd reason. It's just that the article on lightsabers on wikipedia is far superior to this one. It even says right now that the article on this wiki needs "cleaning up". The one of wikipedia features more pictures, information and is more fluid than this one - Maphisto86 6 Aug 2005
 * In cases where we don't have an article at all, then we will use the Wikipedia one, but if there is an existing version that has already undergone wookification, then it's not a good idea to discard the work that's already been done. If you wish to incorporate some of Wikipedia's improvements to the article, feel free to merge them in, but make sure that you do so smoothly, in a way that will not throw out any work that we've done. Also, make sure that you wookify any new additions. – Aidje talk 06:01, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Bad Info
I agree that this is not high quality (i have seen bad grammar and many sentences that didn't make sense). However, there are also some basic problems, the largest being A LIGHTSABER IS NOT SUPER-HEATED PLASMA. I want you all to repeat that to yourselves. The proof is in the many, many books and sections of the movies where it is mentioned that 1) A crystal is used in lightsaber construction (a crystal would only be used if it is a laser varient, which it is), 2) A light source is always included (why the hell would you have a light source if it's plasma!), 3) There is no plasma container ever mentioned in creation, 4) How does plasma block a blaster (mostly concentrated light) and 5) A lightsaber works pretty much equally in all environments, including space (if it was plasma, changing air pressure in the environment would alter a ton of things about the blade. -- Mirage
 * We are trying to create the most accurate article here with the most accurate sources, but many times sources will tend to conflict with each other, and another thing is, does anyone really know how these things work? If that was the case, then we should have them everywhere. -- Riffsyphon1024 03:07, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Also, in response to number 4, not all sources say blaster bolts are light. Sometime's they're also listed as plasma.-LtNOWIS 03:03, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Cauterization
From what I've seen in the movies, it appears lightsabers cauterize wounds. Yet in Episode IV, there were drops of blood around Pondo Baba's severed arm. Am I missing something? User:SFH
 * Well, it is an inconsistency, but I guess it might be different for some non-humans. That's what they cite in Star Wars inconsistencies. Also, sometimes clothing blocks the blade enough for their to be minor bleeding.-LtNOWIS 03:00, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Individual Lightsabers
Should we begin creating articles for the individual weapons wielded by the various Jedi Knights and Sith Lords? Each weapon is unique, and many have a history behind them. Multiple versions of the same user's weapon could be grouped into a single article (for example, Obi-Wan had at least four lightsabers during his life). We have pages on many named starships, so perhaps individual weapons, too? - Kwenn
 * I don't have a problem with that, but we know very little about most of the lightsabers. We would end up with even more stub articles. TopAce 17:41 18(?) Oct 2005 GMT +1
 * We know a fair bit about the lightsabers of the major characters (and some minor ones). Seeing as this Wiki is supposed to be evolving into the definitive Star Wars guide, I suggest we eventually add entries like this, to make it totally comprehensive - Kwenn

Doomed?
Is the 'We're doomed!' still actual? TopAce 17:42 18(?) Oct 2005 GMT +1

Bending the Light
In Clone Wars, Kit Fisto's Lightsaber seems to bend underwater. Light bends in water and a laser is nothing but light. The reason his saber bended, was the light around the saber bended or was the lightsader its self bended. Double D 19:02, 20 Oct 2005 (UTC)