Wookieepedia:Inquisitorius/Log/2011 June 18

[07:59] == Toprawa changed the topic of #wookieepedia-inquisitorius to: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Meeting_XLII [07:59] <@Toprawa> Ok, here we go. [07:59] <@GT|away> The here me is away. The away me is here. [07:59] <@Toprawa> Welcome to Inqmoot 42. [07:59] <@Toprawa> We'll start with Judgment Day. [07:59] <@Toprawa> First up [07:59] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Coruscant_(Clone_Wars) [07:59] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Battle_of_Coruscant_(Clone_Wars)_(second_review) [08:00] <@Toprawa> no change [08:00] <@GT|away> Our first kill of the day. [08:00] == GT|away has changed nick to PurpleTentacle [08:00] <@IFYLOFD> Bleh. Kill. [08:00] <@PurpleTentacle> Better. [08:00] <@Toprawa> Kill [08:01] <@Toprawa> Don't make me flash the bat signal again. [08:01] <@Menkooroo> Kill. It's always a shame to see articles on big movie things die, but they definitely require constant maintenance. [08:01] <@PurpleTentacle> Indeed. [08:02] <@Tommy9281> Kill [08:02] <@Toprawa> Battle of Coruscant removed. [08:02] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Pau%27an [08:02] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Pau%27an [08:02] <@Toprawa> No real change. [08:02] <@IFYLOFD> Kill [08:02] <@Menkooroo> In addition to the Legacy update, I think Bob's right in that the sources list isn't at all complete. [08:02] <@Tommy9281> Kill [08:02] <@Culator|Away> BLARG [08:02] <@Culator|Away> INQ SMASH [08:02] <@Menkooroo> Kill [08:03] <@PurpleTentacle> Kill. [08:03] <@Toprawa> Kill [08:03] <@Toprawa> Pau'an removed [08:03] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Warb_Null [08:03] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Warb_Null [08:03] <@Toprawa> Tommy, you may reiterate your comments made there if you care. [08:04] <@Tommy9281> I basically rewrote the thing, so if/when it comes up for the Re-featuring, I can address whatever comes up then. [08:04] <@Tommy9281> But it is taken care of. [08:04] <@Tommy9281> 2011-style. [08:04] <@Toprawa> Do you recommend we transfer it to the Redux page? [08:04] <@Tommy9281> Yes [08:04] <@Toprawa> Any objections? [08:04] <@Tommy9281> Enough of it has changed. [08:04] <@Tommy9281> I have none [08:05] <@Toprawa> If no objections, Warb Null will be sent to Redux. [08:05] <@IFYLOFD> To the Dux, I guess [08:05] <@PurpleTentacle> I'd be happy to wait and review it on RFAN. [08:05] <@PurpleTentacle> But either way. [08:05] <@Tommy9281> Leave it for RFAN then [08:05] * PurpleTentacle disliked more work. :P [08:05] <@Tommy9281> I will take care of it if any issues arise. [08:05] <@PurpleTentacle> *dislikes [08:05] <@Toprawa> well, we need a consensus now [08:05] <@Toprawa> because you guys had to disagree :P [08:05] <@Tommy9281> heh [08:05] <@PurpleTentacle> Redux then. [08:06] <@Menkooroo> Dux for a consensus! [08:06] <@IFYLOFD> D- D- D- DUX [08:06] <@Toprawa> Warb Null Reduxed, then. [08:06] <@Tommy9281> Ok [08:06] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cerea [08:06] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Cerea_(second_review) [08:06] <@Toprawa> No change [08:06] <@Tommy9281> Kill [08:07] <@PurpleTentacle> Kill. [08:07] <@Culator|Away> CEREA-L KILLER [08:07] <@IFYLOFD> Kill [08:07] <@Toprawa> Kill [08:07] <@Menkooroo> Per Culator :D [08:07] <@Toprawa> Indeed [08:07] <@Toprawa> Cerea removed. [08:07] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kouhun [08:07] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Kouhun_(second_review) [08:07] <@Toprawa> This one, I guess: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Kouhun&diff=3574680&oldid=3574656 [08:07] <@Tommy9281> This is like a bad day on Price is Right [08:08] <@Toprawa> Every day is a bad day on Price is Right with Drew Carey :P [08:08] <@Menkooroo> Looks like a good and thorough update. [08:08] <@Tommy9281> lol [08:08] <@Tommy9281> Thinner [08:08] <@IFYLOFD> Keep [08:08] <@Menkooroo> More than just the bare-bones addition one could reluctantly make. [08:08] <@Menkooroo> Keep. [08:08] <@Tommy9281> I agree. Keep [08:08] <@PurpleTentacle> Keep. [08:09] <@Toprawa> Kouhun kept by all absentees. [08:09] <@Toprawa> Kouhun kept. [08:10] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chris_Trevas [08:10] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Chris_Trevas [08:10] <@Toprawa> No change [08:10] <@IFYLOFD> Kill [08:10] <@PurpleTentacle> Kill. [08:10] <@Toprawa> Kill [08:10] <@Menkooroo> Kill. [08:10] <@Tommy9281> Kill. [08:10] <@Toprawa> Chris Trevas killed [08:10] <@Toprawa> In a figurative sense, of course. :P [08:11] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sigel_Dare [08:11] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Sigel_Dare [08:11] <@Tommy9281> Keep [08:11] <@Tommy9281> This one was fixed early on [08:11] <@IFYLOFD> Keep [08:11] <@Menkooroo> Keep. Hooray! [08:11] <@Toprawa> Keep [08:11] <@PurpleTentacle> Keep. [08:11] <@Toprawa> Sigel Dare kept. [08:11] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Malcor_Brashin [08:12] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Malcor_Brashin_(second_review) [08:12] <@Toprawa> Personally, I don't really know what to say for this. [08:12] <@Toprawa> A crap load of edits made [08:12] <@Tommy9281> Me neither. [08:12] <@Toprawa> Haven't looked through it all myself [08:12] <@Tommy9281> Should we extend? [08:12] <@IFYLOFD> Uh... [08:12] <@Toprawa> Depending on the scope, redux may be in order [08:12] <@PurpleTentacle> Redux? [08:13] <@Toprawa> It looks like it just underwent a complete rewrite/overhaul [08:13] <@IFYLOFD> To the Dux, then [08:13] <@Toprawa> I support Redux, I think [08:13] <@Tommy9281> And I'm not able attest to the quality [08:13] <@Menkooroo> It could use a redux for some cleanup. [08:13] <@Tommy9281> Redux [08:13] <@Menkooroo> Redux [08:13] <@PurpleTentacle> Or maybe not. [08:13] <@PurpleTentacle> Most of that looks like just combining paragraphs. [08:14] <@Toprawa> there was about 1500 new bytes added, though again, haven't looked through it all myself [08:14] <@Menkooroo> I think it still needs some cleanup. That many subsections might not be necessary. [08:14] <@Tommy9281> When looking at it via history it is hard to distinguish what was done. [08:14] <@Tommy9281> I think it could benefit from the redux. [08:14] <@Toprawa> per Tommy [08:14] <@Menkooroo> Maybe extend would be a better option, though. Not sure. [08:14] <@Toprawa> FWIW, it's also a pretty old FA. [08:15] <@Toprawa> It wouldn't hurt to give it a fresh look, IMO [08:15] <@Tommy9281> I agree. [08:15] <@Menkooroo> Yeah, a redux would be an all-around good thing. [08:15] <@Menkooroo> Redux! [08:15] <@Toprawa> I support Redux [08:15] <@PurpleTentacle> Fair enough. Redux on! [08:15] <@Toprawa> Malcor Brashin Reduxed. [08:15] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Orman_Tagge [08:16] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Orman_Tagge_(second_review) [08:16] <@Toprawa> Jinzler totally rewrote the intro and BTS. [08:16] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Orman_Tagge&diff=3545072&oldid=3540153 [08:16] <@Toprawa> hereish [08:17] <@Toprawa> I don't know what to say for SinSam's comment on the review page [08:17] <@Toprawa> as it was never formally addressed there [08:17] <@Tommy9281> Jinzler knows his shit. [08:17] <@Toprawa> (hence why people need to actually use the review page, so we don't have to go searching for every little change made) [08:17] <@Menkooroo> It seems like legitimate info to add. [08:17] <@PurpleTentacle> There's a paragraph been added from that source. [08:17] <@Tommy9281> I agree [08:17] <@Tommy9281> lol [08:18] <@Menkooroo> ah, there it is [08:18] <@Menkooroo> info was added [08:18] <@PurpleTentacle> Looks ok to me. [08:18] <@IFYLOFD> Keep? [08:18] <@Menkooroo> I vote keep. [08:18] <@Toprawa> Keep [08:18] <@PurpleTentacle> Keep the man with the funky shades. [08:18] <@Tommy9281> Keep. [08:19] <@Toprawa> Counting Floyd's comment as a vote. [08:19] <@Toprawa> Orman Tagge kept. [08:19] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CT-27-5555 [08:19] <@Tommy9281> Those Tagges are a peculiar folk [08:19] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/CT-27-5555_(second_review) [08:19] <@Toprawa> I guess Jang's comment there is his way of saying he updated it. [08:19] <@Tommy9281> Keep [08:19] <@IFYLOFD> Keep [08:20] <@Toprawa> Changes made starting here, FWIW http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=CT-27-5555&diff=3546581&oldid=3541731 [08:20] <@Menkooroo> Looks good. Keep. [08:20] <@PurpleTentacle> That's a huge new chunk. [08:20] <@Toprawa> Redux? [08:20] <@Tommy9281> I love our machines. [08:20] <@Toprawa> He added about 9K worth [08:20] <@PurpleTentacle> Redux. [08:20] <@Tommy9281> Redux? [08:21] <@Tommy9281> He added as opposed to rewrote though [08:21] <@Menkooroo> I thought reduxing was mostly for major re-writes of existing material? [08:21] <@Toprawa> GT, what was our loosely agreed-upon amount for Reduxing it? [08:21] <@Toprawa> 3000? [08:21] <@Toprawa> It's for major updates of any kind. [08:21] <@PurpleTentacle> Yeah, I think so. [08:21] <@IFYLOFD> Eh, Redux then. [08:21] <@Tommy9281> Gotcha [08:21] <@PurpleTentacle> This is a totally redux-worthy edit. [08:21] <@Toprawa> Agreed [08:21] <@Tommy9281> Redux then,. [08:21] <@Toprawa> No objections to Redux? [08:22] <@Menkooroo> Go for it. [08:22] <@Toprawa> CT-27-5555 reduxed [08:22] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rasi_Tuum [08:22] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Rasi_Tuum [08:22] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Rasi_Tuum&diff=3563588&oldid=3560260 [08:23] <@Menkooroo> QGJ updated it. The intro, too! [08:23] <@Toprawa> about 4K size update [08:23] <@IFYLOFD> That's a pretty big chunk [08:23] <@IFYLOFD> Redux? [08:23] <@Menkooroo> It doesn't look like a big chunk. [08:23] <@Menkooroo> Just two paragraphs. [08:23] <@Tommy9281> That ain't that much [08:23] <@Menkooroo> Redux would seem like a little overkill, honestly. [08:24] <@Culator|Away> We don't need to redux everything unless existing material changes substantially. That's just tacked on the end. [08:24] <@Menkooroo> Plenty of Legacy characters were updated like that every month. [08:24] <@Tommy9281> This one is a keep [08:24] <@PurpleTentacle> I'm happy to let this one pass. [08:24] <@Menkooroo> Keep. [08:24] <@IFYLOFD> Eh, alright [08:24] <@PurpleTentacle> Quick skim and it looks ok. [08:24] <@Tommy9281> It is. I have full confidence in QGJ [08:25] <@Toprawa> Rasi Tuum kept by all absentees (though I personally doubt the Redux option was even remembered/considered in their decisions) [08:25] <@Toprawa> Any objections to keep? [08:25] <@PurpleTentacle> Nope. Keep. [08:25] <@Toprawa> Rasi Tuum kept [08:25] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Midi-chlorian [08:25] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Midi-chlorian [08:26] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Midi-chlorian&diff=3558853&oldid=3554963 [08:26] <@Menkooroo> Looks good and updated. [08:26] <@Tommy9281> Lol I don't know why Hydro hates Red Harvest so [08:26] <@PurpleTentacle> Agreed. Keep. [08:26] <@Menkooroo> New info added to several different sections. [08:26] <@IFYLOFD> Keep [08:26] <@Tommy9281> Keep [08:26] <@Menkooroo> keep [08:26] <@Culator|Away> Because it sucks so horribly, I imagine. [08:27] <@Tommy9281> It doesn't, though [08:27] <@Tommy9281> least not to me, lol [08:27] <@Culator|Away> It's almost worse than Death Troopers. Almost. [08:27] <@Culator|Away> But the article is fine. :P [08:27] <@Toprawa> Midi-chlorian kept by absentees [08:27] <@Tommy9281> Haven't gotten to that one yet. But I can imagine. [08:27] <@Toprawa> Midi-chlorian kept [08:27] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mara_Jade_Skywalker [08:27] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Mara_Jade_Skywalker_(third_review) [08:27] <@PurpleTentacle> Death Troopers wasn't that bad. [08:28] <@PurpleTentacle> I use Crystal Star as a baseline. [08:28] <@Culator|Away> CRYSTAL STAR WAS BETTER [08:28] <@Tommy9281> LMAO [08:28] <@Tommy9281> Per PT [08:28] <@Tommy9281> Mara for redux? [08:28] <@Tommy9281> Ataru just did some clock-strikes midnight updates. [08:28] <@Toprawa> And didn't actually change everything he claimed he did on the review page. [08:29] <@Tommy9281> Sigh [08:29] <@Culator|Away> And you can tell that by the number of different spellings of "Skywalker." [08:29] <@Tommy9281> Trying to get the carriage home before it turns to a pumpkin :/ [08:30] <@IFYLOFD> Good metaphor [08:30] <@Toprawa> There's a lot of indecision and wavering among absentees for Mara [08:30] <@IFYLOFD> Or analogy, whatever it is [08:30] <@Toprawa> this is the only real solid comment: [08:30] <@Toprawa> # Mara Jade Skywalker: I'm going to vote kill; as I noted on the review page, I left notes of various problems on Ataru's talk page more than a month ago, but the majority of those issues still remain. [08:30] <@Tommy9281> Mara is only going to end up back here, [08:30] <@Toprawa> (he bolded "kill," for the record :P ) [08:30] <@Tommy9281> Once that new novel is released [08:30] <@Tommy9281> and again, once something else is released. [08:30] <@Tommy9281> Question is do we have the energy to keep looking at it? [08:31] <@Tommy9281> Or patience? [08:31] <@Toprawa> that comment was made by Jugs, btw [08:31] <@Toprawa> I don't really give a crap. [08:31] <@Toprawa> I'm tired of this article [08:31] <@Toprawa> Either kill it or send it to Redux if you want to be nice [08:31] <@Tommy9281> Redux then. [08:32] <@Menkooroo> Redux. [08:32] <@IFYLOFD> Dux [08:32] <@Culator|Away> Redux. Being an actively-used character is no reason to kill an article if there are people who actually care enough to keep it updated. [08:32] <@PurpleTentacle> Per Culator. [08:32] <@Tommy9281> I agree [08:33] <@Toprawa> Mara reduxed. [08:33] <@Toprawa> Moving on to new articles. [08:33] <@PurpleTentacle> Redux just isn't as amusing as probe. [08:33] <@Menkooroo> Is it OK if we do Discussion before we look at "The new?" That way we can avoid probing articles that are on the RFAN until we've decided if we're in fact OK doing that. [08:33] <@Toprawa> That's assuming we even agree to do that. [08:34] <@Toprawa> And that sounds like a fairly involved discussion, if I'm not mistaken. [08:34] <@Toprawa> With some dissenting absentee opinion [08:34] <@Toprawa> I'd prefer to just stay in order [08:34] <@Tommy9281> I agree [08:34] <@Menkooroo> Sounds good. [08:34] <@Toprawa> New articles, then [08:35] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Grassy_Plains [08:35] <@Tommy9281> Gassy plains? [08:35] <@Toprawa> Menkooroo, you may reiterate your comments, if you care to. [08:35] <@Toprawa> Lots of stuff [08:35] <@Menkooroo> It's a 2007-FA that hasn't really been maintained. [08:35] <@Toprawa> It could perhaps be summarized most efficiently by just saying "2007-era FA" :P [08:35] <@Toprawa> I agree. [08:35] <@Toprawa> I've been kind of monitoring this article over the years [08:36] <@Menkooroo> Level of detail, sources section, image placement... [08:36] == CC7567 [~chatzilla@wikia/CC7567] has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [08:36] == mode/#wookieepedia-inquisitorius [+o CC7567] by ChanServ [08:36] == mode/#wookieepedia-inquisitorius [+o CC7567] by Nuku-Nuku [08:36] <@Toprawa> It undergoes a lot of needling around [08:36] == CC7567 has changed nick to CC|Away [08:36] <@Toprawa> CC, we've just started new articles, if you're there [08:36] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Grassy_Plains is up [08:37] <@Toprawa> I support probe on all of that. [08:37] <@Menkooroo> A major battle from one of the films would be mentioned in a ton of sources. There are currently only thirteen. [08:37] <@Tommy9281> I'm good with a probe [08:37] <@Menkooroo> And expansion is needed throughout. [08:37] <@Menkooroo> Probe! [08:37] <@IFYLOFD> Some manner of Ultra-Probe [08:37] <@Tommy9281> Is anyone present able to effect the repairs? [08:37] <@Toprawa> It's 4dot's article, IIRC [08:37] <@Tommy9281> We should be trying to save these abandoned articles when/where possible. [08:38] <@Tommy9281> Ah well [08:38] <@Toprawa> Which I don't think is safe to assume it's going to be taken care of [08:38] <@Tommy9281> True. [08:38] <@Tommy9281> We sure were on some different shit back then. [08:38] <@Tommy9281> lol [08:38] <@Toprawa> All absentees support probe. [08:39] <@Toprawa> Other opinions from those present? [08:39] <@PurpleTentacle> Probe. [08:39] <@Toprawa> Battle of Grassy Plains probed. [08:39] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Raygar [08:39] <@Toprawa> in the words of Kreivi, "as per here": http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Raygar [08:39] <@Menkooroo> Kreivi is right, IMO. The intro needs Slave Pits of Lorrd stuff in it, too. [08:40] <@IFYLOFD> Probe [08:40] <@Menkooroo> I say probe. It's an easy fix. [08:40] <@Menkooroo> We can save it. [08:40] <@Toprawa> Probe [08:40] <@Tommy9281> Are you capable Menkooroo? [08:40] <@PurpleTentacle> Menkooroo: Thanks for volunteering. :P [08:40] <@PurpleTentacle> Probe. [08:40] <@Tommy9281> Per PT :P [08:40] <@Menkooroo> haha. Will do. [08:41] <@Toprawa> Tommy, probe? [08:41] <@Tommy9281> Yes [08:41] <@Toprawa> Raygar probed [08:41] <@Tommy9281> sorry [08:41] <@Toprawa> No worries [08:41] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Side_Elite [08:41] <@Toprawa> # Dark Side Elite: No BTS. Menkooroo 04:05, June 12, 2011 (UTC) [08:41] <@Toprawa> Ugh [08:41] <@Tommy9281> That's gonna be a probe-lem [08:41] <@IFYLOFD> Probe [08:42] <@Menkooroo> heh [08:42] <@Toprawa> Probe [08:42] <@Menkooroo> Probe! [08:42] <@PurpleTentacle> Probe. [08:42] <@Toprawa> Dark Side Elite probed [08:42] <@PurpleTentacle> Anybody know if it needs much? [08:42] <@Tommy9281> A BTS lol [08:42] <@PurpleTentacle> Or just the usual created by and appeared in crap. [08:43] <@Toprawa> Original nominator is no longer around [08:43] <@Toprawa> Which doesn't bode well [08:43] <@Tommy9281> I have the sources, but I can't say that I'm motivated to adopt it. How old is it? It probably needs other stuff. [08:43] <@PurpleTentacle> Those are some huge images. [08:43] <@Toprawa> 2007-era [08:43] <@Tommy9281> Great. Probe for now. If someone gets to it, fine. [08:43] <@Tommy9281> If not, so be it. [08:43] <@Toprawa> It's already been probed :P [08:44] <@Toprawa> Moving on :P [08:44] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ossus [08:44] <@Toprawa> # Ossus: incomplete appearance list, per my objection on the RFA page. CC7567 (talk) 04:58, June 13, 2011 (UTC) [08:44] <@Menkooroo> Probe. I can take care of the Legacy stuff. I think it just amounts to a few additional mentions of the Massacre on Ossus in recent issues of Legacy-War, but I'll do a thorough check just in case. [08:44] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Re-featured_article_nominations#Ossus [08:44] <@IFYLOFD> Probe [08:44] <@Toprawa> No arguments. Probe [08:44] <@PurpleTentacle> Take my objection as a probe vote. :P [08:45] <@Tommy9281> Probe. [08:45] <@Toprawa> Ossus probed. [08:45] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jace_Dallin [08:45] <@Toprawa> Jace Dallin: at a quick glance, bad linking and bad sourcing to comic story arcs; requires a good copy-edit to be brought up to current FA standards. I can get to it myself if I have the chance, but if not, it should get probed to ensure that someone does it. CC7567 (talk) 22:49, June 16, 2011 (UTC) [08:45] <@Menkooroo> There's actually no rule against sourcing story arcs, believe it or not. [08:46] <@Toprawa> And fix the quote template formatting [08:46] <@IFYLOFD> Still lazy as hell [08:46] <@Toprawa> There should be, if there isn't [08:46] <@IFYLOFD> Take him to Probe-town [08:46] <@Menkooroo> I'd support that CT. [08:46] <@Toprawa> I don't think anyone /doesn't/ source by arc anymore [08:46] <@Tommy9281> I could have sworn there was [08:46] <@Toprawa> As would I [08:46] <@Toprawa> We have a rule for how to list Appearances [08:46] <@Toprawa> That's it [08:47] <@Toprawa> Menkooroo, I nominate you to start the CT :P [08:47] <@Tommy9281> CT is up your alley Menkooroo [08:47] <@Menkooroo> Probe. Although I'd like to see some elaboration on what's required in the copyedit. [08:47] <@Tommy9281> Short & to the point :P [08:47] <@Menkooroo> I'll do it! [08:47] <@Tommy9281> A copyedit touches all bases. [08:47] <@Toprawa> I vote probe as well. [08:48] <@PurpleTentacle> Quotes fixed. [08:48] <@Toprawa> Thanks, GT [08:48] <@Toprawa> Three probe votes currently among present [08:48] <@Tommy9281> Probe [08:49] <@Toprawa> Four from present, three from absentees [08:49] <@Toprawa> Other opinions? [08:49] <@Culator|Away> PROBED [08:49] <@Toprawa> Jace Dallin probed. [08:49] <@PurpleTentacle> Probe. [08:49] * Culator|Away uses a comically large rubber stamp. [08:49] <@PurpleTentacle> And source by issue, dangit! [08:50] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sagoro_Autem [08:50] <@Toprawa> # Sagoro Autem: same story as Dallin. CC7567 (talk) 23:13, June 16, 2011 (UTC) [08:50] <@Tommy9281> Same story as Dallin, then. [08:50] <@IFYLOFD> Same probin' [08:50] <@Menkooroo> Same vote! [08:50] <@Toprawa> Probe on CC's word [08:50] <@PurpleTentacle> What Tope said. [08:50] <@Toprawa> Sagoro Autem probed. [08:51] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Fay [08:51] <@Toprawa> # Fay: requires a P&A section. Also, the Blast Radius events could benefit from some expansion. CC7567 (talk) 23:38, June 16, 2011 (UTC) [08:51] <@PurpleTentacle> Probe joke time! [08:51] <@Menkooroo> She's a Force-user. She needs a p&a. Probe. [08:51] <@Culator|Away> Finally one I'd want to probe. [08:51] <@PurpleTentacle> Probe for bolding her name in the biography. [08:51] <@IFYLOFD> (insert off-color probe joke here) [08:51] <@Tommy9281> I knew a girl named Faye Cobbs [08:51] <@Toprawa> Probe [08:51] <@Tommy9281> She had a weak bladder, to put it nicely lol [08:51] <@Tommy9281> Probe [08:52] <@Toprawa> Fay probed. [08:52] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tohno [08:52] <@Toprawa> Tohno: linking to redirects + redlink in intro. CC7567 (talk) 00:06, June 17, 2011 (UTC) [08:52] <@Toprawa>    * I took care of the redirects, but I can't do anything about the redlink because I don't have the source. Master Jonathan — Jedi Council Chambers Friday, June 17, 2011, 00:13 UTC [08:52] <@Toprawa>          o Taken care of.—Tommy 9281 Friday, June 17, 2011, 00:32 UTC [08:52] <@Menkooroo> MJ and Tommy for the keep! [08:52] <@PurpleTentacle> All good. [08:52] <@PurpleTentacle> Keep. [08:52] <@Toprawa> Keep [08:52] <@Tommy9281> Easy fix [08:52] <@IFYLOFD> Probe [08:52] <@IFYLOFD> Crap, I mean Keep [08:53] <@Toprawa> Tohno kept. [08:53] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/FA_maintenance_issues [08:53] <@Toprawa> Several articles with the update tag. [08:53] <@PurpleTentacle> Corran and Fel. [08:53] <@PurpleTentacle> Great. [08:53] <@Culator|Away> Oh dear God no. [08:53] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Corran_Horn [08:54] <@Tommy9281> Ahh, that's how this works. [08:54] <@Toprawa> Update needed [08:54] <@Tommy9281> Well we knew Corran was coming anyway. [08:54] <@Menkooroo> I'll talk to Hav. He's been busy with RL stuff, but I'll see if he can find time to update these two. [08:54] <@Toprawa> Probe [08:54] <@PurpleTentacle> Not quite been a month yet. [08:54] <@Tommy9281> I just took care of my Conviction update [08:54] <@Menkooroo> Yeah, Conviction is still pretty recent. [08:55] <@Toprawa> Do we want to give leeway for Conviction, then? [08:55] <@Tommy9281> Yeah sure [08:55] <@PurpleTentacle> Yeah. [08:55] <@Menkooroo> Yeah. [08:55] <@PurpleTentacle> Get 'em next time. [08:55] <@Toprawa> Fine with me [08:55] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Judder_Page this one has a different update [08:55] <@Menkooroo> I know I've had the tag there for a while, but I really am working on it! :D [08:55] <@Toprawa> though inuse currently [08:55] <@Menkooroo> I read the short story yesterday [08:55] <@Menkooroo> I'll update for it ASAP. [08:56] <@Tommy9281> As long as it's being worked on I'm okay. [08:56] <@PurpleTentacle> It's a smallish update and I'm happy to leave it to Menk. [08:56] <@Toprawa> Ditto [08:56] <@IFYLOFD> Per Tommy [08:56] <@Toprawa> No probe for Judder [08:56] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Telos_IV also has a different update [08:56] <@Toprawa> a month today, it seems [08:57] <@Tommy9281> What about the shuttle? [08:57] <@PurpleTentacle> Conviction [08:57] <@Toprawa> Shuttle is Conviction too [08:57] <@Tommy9281> right [08:57] <@Tommy9281> nvm [08:57] <@PurpleTentacle> Probe Telos. [08:57] <@Menkooroo> Telos... I say probe. [08:57] <@Toprawa> Probe is fine with me [08:57] <@Toprawa> crap [08:57] <@Tommy9281> Probe [08:57] <@Toprawa> brb [08:57] <@Toprawa> continue without me :P [08:58] <@Menkooroo> Four probe votes is enough? [08:58] <@Tommy9281> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Aris-Del_Wari&t=20110608015723 [08:58] <@IFYLOFD> Probe [08:58] <@Tommy9281> Yes [08:58] <@Tommy9281> We can go with that [08:58] <@Menkooroo> Telos IV probed. [08:58] == CC|Away has changed nick to CC7567 [08:58] <@Tommy9281> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Aris-Del_Wari&t=20110608015723 [08:58] <@Tommy9281> Source tag in intro [08:58] <@PurpleTentacle> ... [08:58] <@PurpleTentacle> We don't even source in intros. [08:59] <@Menkooroo> Is that the only "issue?" [08:59] <@CC7567> Lolwut :P [08:59] * Toprawa is back [08:59] <@Menkooroo> If so, an easy keep. [08:59] <@Toprawa> You can keep running it if you like, whoever is running it [08:59] <@Culator|Away> Ugh. Aris-Del Wari's fact tag is because someone has a bug up their ass about the nomenclature of the era itself. That is in no way the article's fault and frankly, I'd like to ban whoever put that tag on. [08:59] <@Tommy9281> lmao [08:59] <@PurpleTentacle> Keep and kill the. [08:59] <@Tommy9281> Per PT [09:00] <@Toprawa> Fine with me [09:00] <@Tommy9281> Keep then? [09:00] <@Tommy9281> Floyd? [09:00] <@Tommy9281> CC? [09:00] <@IFYLOFD> Keep [09:01] <@CC7567> Keep, sorry [09:01] <@Tommy9281> Kept. Aris-Del [09:01] <@IFYLOFD> Non-issue [09:01] <@Tommy9281> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Gorgon&t=20110607120931 [09:01] <@Tommy9281> source tag in BTS. [09:01] <@Toprawa> Let's just axe that entire sentence. [09:01] <@Tommy9281> I'd just as soon remove it [09:01] <@Tommy9281> Per Tope [09:02] <@CC7567> Does someone have the resources to fill in the succession box after-years? [09:02] <@PurpleTentacle> Same here. [09:02] <@CC7567> Like, really quickly? [09:02] <@IFYLOFD> Yeah, just cut that sentence and keep [09:02] <@Menkooroo> done [09:02] <@Menkooroo> sentence is gone. [09:02] <@Tommy9281> Done [09:02] <@PurpleTentacle> Then keep. [09:02] <@CC7567> The succession box needs the after-years field filled [09:03] <@Tommy9281> Can you source that, CC? [09:04] <@CC7567> It's out of my league [09:04] <@Menkooroo> I can do it right now. [09:04] <@CC7567> :P [09:04] <@Menkooroo> It was just in Darksaber. [09:04] <@PurpleTentacle> Isn't it just the year Darksaber is set? [09:04] <@Culator|Away> Yep. [09:04] <@Tommy9281> Ahh [09:04] <@Culator|Away> Followed by Knight Hammer. [09:04] <@CC7567> I'm fine with keep, then [09:04] <@PurpleTentacle> So many ships she broke. [09:04] <@Tommy9281> Me too. [09:04] <@Tommy9281> So many [09:05] <@Menkooroo> done [09:05] <@Toprawa> Women can't drive. [09:05] <@PurpleTentacle> And now she does it to governments. [09:05] <@Toprawa> That's a fact. :P [09:05] <@Tommy9281> Per Toprawa [09:05] <@Menkooroo> keep. [09:05] <@PurpleTentacle> Keep. [09:05] <@Toprawa> Keep [09:05] <@Tommy9281> Keep [09:05] <@CC7567> Keep [09:05] <@Tommy9281> Kept. [09:06] <@Tommy9281> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Battle_of_Coruscant_%28Clone_Wars%29&t=20110516204519 [09:06] <@Toprawa> we already killed this one :P [09:06] <@Tommy9281> lol [09:06] <@Toprawa> first one in the previously probed list [09:06] <@PurpleTentacle> Let's kill it again! [09:06] <@Tommy9281> Scratch that one then [09:06] <@IFYLOFD> DOUBLE KILL [09:07] <@Tommy9281> We're on to major edits then? [09:07] <@Toprawa> Yes [09:07] <@Tommy9281> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Drikl_Lecersen&t=20110613162125 [09:07] <@Tommy9281> But skip this one [09:07] <@Tommy9281> For Conviction [09:07] <@Menkooroo> Aye. Conviction. [09:07] <@Toprawa> Skip it [09:07] <@PurpleTentacle> Only really need to look at those if they haven't been touched for a while. [09:07] <@Tommy9281> In that case [09:07] <@Tommy9281> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Darth_Stryfe&t=20110609233823 [09:08] <@PurpleTentacle> It's more to point out when people slap that on and don't do anything. [09:08] <@CC7567> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Darth_Stryfe&action=history [09:08] <@CC7567> Grunny hasn't touched it since May [09:08] <@CC7567> 14 [09:08] <@Toprawa> per GT [09:08] <@Menkooroo> Grunny had a lot of Legacy articles to update. [09:08] <@Menkooroo> He recently finished Sayar Dun'la. [09:08] <@Menkooroo> I trust him to round out the list soon. [09:08] <@Tommy9281> I agree. [09:08] <@PurpleTentacle> Fair enough. [09:09] <@IFYLOFD> Yeah [09:09] <@Tommy9281> Keep then? [09:09] <@Menkooroo> keep [09:09] <@IFYLOFD> Keep [09:09] <@Toprawa> Fine with me [09:09] <@CC7567> Keep [09:09] <@Tommy9281> Kept. [09:09] <@PurpleTentacle> Keep. [09:09] <@Tommy9281> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Unidentified_Havoc_Squad_commander&t=20110609072949 [09:09] <@Tommy9281> Sorry [09:09] <@Tommy9281> Not used to this yet [09:09] <@Tommy9281> This one can wait because of Return [09:10] <@Toprawa> agreed [09:10] <@Tommy9281> Moving right along, [09:10] <@Tommy9281> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Bright_Hope&t=20110602055243 [09:10] <@Menkooroo> Bright Tope! [09:10] <@Toprawa> Working on this one, though I haven't gotten to it in a while [09:10] <@Toprawa> It's likely going to end up in Redux once it's done [09:10] <@Tommy9281> As it is with the Grunny articles [09:10] <@Menkooroo> It looks like it's been extensive work. [09:10] <@Toprawa> I'm just going through it and sprucing everything up [09:10] <@Tommy9281> I trust you know what you're doing [09:11] <@PurpleTentacle> Then leave it be for now and redux later. [09:11] <@Toprawa> It's one of my first FAs [09:11] <@Menkooroo> Keep. [09:11] <@IFYLOFD> Then we'll leave it to you [09:11] <@CC7567> Keep, possibly Redux later [09:11] <@Toprawa> Thanks [09:12] <@IFYLOFD> Keep [09:12] <@Tommy9281> There is this /fool/outside my window on a Pee-Wee Herman bike [09:12] <@Toprawa> hahahahahahaha [09:12] <@Tommy9281> A grown /ass/ man [09:12] <@Toprawa> That's beyond cool [09:12] <@Tommy9281> lmao [09:12] <@Tommy9281> He looks like Cee-lo Green [09:13] <@Tommy9281> Anyway, [09:13] <@Tommy9281> I think that's it? [09:13] <@Toprawa> one more in the next section [09:13] <@Toprawa> Form V [09:13] <@Tommy9281> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Form_V:_Shien_/_Djem_So&t=20110511184838 [09:13] <@Menkooroo> Also Battle of Borleias? [09:13] <@CC7567> Redux :P [09:14] <@Toprawa> oh, that's Redux [09:14] <@Toprawa> nevermind that [09:14] <@Menkooroo> ah [09:14] <@Toprawa> did we do Borleias? [09:14] <@Toprawa> I don't remember [09:14] <@Menkooroo> It's redux. [09:14] <@Toprawa> ah, right [09:14] <@Toprawa> Ok, Menkooroo, wow us with your discussion :P [09:14] <@CC7567> It's on Redux, but actually there's unaddressed objections since May 9 [09:14] <@PurpleTentacle> Just a sec! [09:14] <@Tommy9281> Gotcha [09:14] <@Tommy9281> ??? [09:14] <@PurpleTentacle> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bria_Tharen [09:14] <@Tommy9281> lol [09:14] <@PurpleTentacle> Menkooroo brought up some issues. [09:15] <@PurpleTentacle> Looking at it, it needs some overall work. [09:15] <@Tommy9281> I like Bria [09:15] <@Tommy9281> Those were some great books. [09:15] <@PurpleTentacle> My first FA and all that. [09:15] <@Toprawa> h [09:15] <@Toprawa> yeah* [09:15] <@IFYLOFD> They were [09:15] <@Toprawa> those were the first SW books I ever read [09:15] <@Menkooroo> Do you wanna redux it? [09:15] <@PurpleTentacle> Will probably need a redux later, but do you want to probe now? [09:15] <@Menkooroo> If it's on the RFAN page... [09:15] <@Menkooroo> should we keep the issues there? [09:15] <@Toprawa> I'm cool with whatever you two want to do [09:16] <@PurpleTentacle> Sure. Direct comments there then. [09:16] <@Toprawa> I guess this leads into the discussion, then [09:16] <@Menkooroo> OK. I'll keep it concise this time. [09:16] <@Tommy9281> Menk has the floor? [09:16] <@Menkooroo> #1 is pretty simple. [09:16] <@Menkooroo> I'll just paste it in. [09:16] <@Menkooroo> 1) Would it be OK to create a template to add to an article when it's placed on the RFAN page? A lot of people don't seem to be aware that the RFAN page exists, and this would be one small way of bringing it to the public's attention. It would also let the original nominator know that the article is currently undergoing a review (if they have it on their watch list). [09:16] <@PurpleTentacle> Good idea. [09:16] <@Menkooroo> Thoughts? [09:16] <@Toprawa> Makes sense to me [09:16] <@Tommy9281> Do it [09:17] <@Menkooroo> Who here is good at making templates? [09:17] <@CC7567> Are you volunteering to do it, Menk? :P [09:17] <@Toprawa> CC :P [09:17] <@PurpleTentacle> I can do it. [09:17] <@CC7567> Culator :P [09:17] <@CC7567> Or GT :P [09:17] <@Menkooroo> Awesome, thanks. [09:17] <@Tommy9281> I can do it [09:17] <@Tommy9281> Wait PT got it [09:17] <@Menkooroo> I'll condense #2. Those huge paragraphs are all just fluff. :P [09:17] <@Tommy9281> Damn you and your fluff :P [09:18] <@Menkooroo> We need a procedure for removing failed noms from the RFAN page. [09:18] <@Toprawa> Just normal FAN page-style voting, or alternative IRC consensus? [09:18] <@Menkooroo> To keep the page from getting clogged with idle noms --- and thus preventing old FAs from being readded to the queue --- I propose two/three weeks of idleness = bye-bye. [09:18] <@Tommy9281> Both? IF there are enough of us present at any given moment in IRC, then sure [09:18] <@Tommy9281> And votes when that doesn't work? [09:18] <@Menkooroo> If we leave it to the next Inqmoot, the page gets clogged. [09:18] <@Toprawa> yeah, I meant both [09:19] <@Tommy9281> Gotcha [09:19] <@Toprawa> IRC consensus can be reached if the discussion happens to take place in there [09:19] <@Toprawa> or in here, rather [09:19] <@Menkooroo> How many votes for a consensus? [09:19] <@Tommy9281> yup [09:19] <@Toprawa> it happens from time to time :P [09:19] <@Toprawa> 5 [09:19] <@PurpleTentacle> That works for me. [09:19] <@Toprawa> no more than 2 opposed, I think it is [09:19] <@Menkooroo> And... three weeks? [09:19] <@PurpleTentacle> Remove from there and add to Inq agenda at the same time. [09:19] <@Menkooroo> of idleness? [09:19] <@CC7567> Sure [09:19] <@Toprawa> Sure [09:19] <@PurpleTentacle> Once we vote to keep it, stick it on the queue. [09:19] <@Menkooroo> Yeah. If it gets removed, it'll be brought to the Inqs. [09:19] <@CC7567> If and when articles are removed from the RFAN, maybe they can get mentioned at the next Inqmoot for outstanding issues [09:19] <@CC7567> Yeah [09:20] <@Menkooroo> GT: That solved the problem, I think. [09:20] <@CC7567> Maybe we should mention that somewhere on the RFAN page [09:20] <@Menkooroo> Any failed noms on the RFAN page get brought to the Inqs. [09:20] <@Toprawa> Mention it on any Inq page it needs to be mentioned on, I say [09:20] <@Menkooroo> If it's status is kept, someone at the meeting puts it on the queue. [09:20] <@Toprawa> The more clarification, the better [09:20] <@Tommy9281> Per Tope [09:21] <@Menkooroo> That's good. That way, if it loses its chance to be on the queue, it's because it lost its status. [09:21] <@Menkooroo> Solves the problem. [09:21] <@IFYLOFD> Sounds perfect [09:21] <@Toprawa> Ok, last thing [09:21] <@PurpleTentacle> Nice. [09:21] <@Menkooroo> I'll write up the procedure for removing failed noms based on that. [09:21] <@Toprawa> Menkooroo, I don't remember if you were here for this or are familiar with this [09:21] <@Menkooroo> wait [09:21] <@Menkooroo> crap [09:22] <@Menkooroo> one more small thing [09:22] <@Menkooroo> ... wait, no [09:22] <@Menkooroo> never mind [09:22] <@Menkooroo> sorry [09:22] <@Toprawa> We agreed on a system previously for determining who schedules the next meeting and who does paperwork after every meeting [09:22] <@Menkooroo> :P [09:22] <@Toprawa> Are you up to date with that? [09:22] <@Menkooroo> Nope. [09:22] <@Menkooroo> I read about it in old minutes. [09:22] <@Toprawa> Basically, we just put everyone's name in a random generator, and we have a list for who does what when [09:22] <@Menkooroo> But... is it my turn? [09:22] <@Toprawa> No :P [09:22] <@Tommy9281> Well since you're volunteering... [09:22] <@Toprawa> Everyone goes once, then we start over again [09:23] <@Toprawa> Xd is actually up for this next time [09:23] <@Toprawa> Though he won't be here for July, he has already said [09:23] <@Toprawa> If you want to volunteer to go now, we can push him back a month [09:23] <@Toprawa> then you can be good for this round [09:23] <@Menkooroo> Sounds good. [09:23] <@Menkooroo> So I do paperwork for this one, and schedule the next one? [09:23] <@Toprawa> Works for me [09:23] <@Tommy9281> Got a lot on your plate, junior. Got it all? [09:23] <@Toprawa> Yes [09:24] <@Menkooroo> I can do it. [09:24] <@Toprawa> Cool, thanks [09:24] <@Tommy9281> Very well. [09:24] <@CC7567> We did make a predetermined list, right? [09:24] <@Toprawa> Yes [09:24] <@Toprawa> I can post it here if everyone wants to see it [09:24] <@CC7567> Okay [09:24] <@CC7567> Sure [09:24] <@CC7567> Well, I do :P [09:24] <@Menkooroo> And for the record, we won't probe articles on the RFAN page from now on until after they're removed from the RFAN page, right? [09:24] <@Tommy9281> I don't mind [09:25] <@PurpleTentacle> Menkooroo: Yeah. Remove the probed ones now. [09:25] <@Toprawa> Two lists, one for Inqmoot scheduling, one for paperwork [09:25] <@Toprawa> This is Inqmoot scheduling: [09:25] <@CC7567> And the former FAs [09:25] <@Menkooroo> Remove the probed ones? Sounds good. [09:25] <@Toprawa>   1. * Tommy9281* [09:25] <@Menkooroo> and the killed ones. Got it. [09:25] <@Toprawa>   2. * Xd1358* [09:25] <@Toprawa>   3. * Grunny* [09:25] <@Toprawa>   4. * Xicer9 [09:25] <@Toprawa>   5. * Green tentacle [09:25] <@Toprawa>   6. * Eyrezer [09:25] <@Toprawa>   7. * CC7567* [09:25] <@Toprawa>   8. * Toprawa and Ralltiir* [09:25] <@Toprawa>   9. * Grand Moff Tranner* [09:25] <@Tommy9281> Oh yeah, that reminds me [09:25] <@Toprawa>  10. * Cylka* [09:25] <@Toprawa>  11. * Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing* [09:25] <@Toprawa>  12. * Darth Culator [09:25] <@Toprawa>  13. * Jonjedigrandmaster* [09:25] <@Toprawa>  14. * Cavalier One* [09:25] <@Toprawa> Tommy already went [09:25] <@Toprawa> This is for paperwork: [09:25] <@Toprawa>   1. * Cavalier One* [09:25] <@Toprawa>   2. * Xd1358* [09:25] <@Toprawa>   3. * Jonjedigrandmaster* [09:25] <@Toprawa>   4. * Darth Culator [09:25] * Tommy9281 wants floor afterward [09:25] <@Toprawa>   5. * CC7567* [09:25] <@Toprawa>   6. * Green tentacle [09:25] <@Toprawa>   7. * Eyrezer [09:25] <@Toprawa>   8. * Cylka* [09:26] <@Toprawa>   9. * Grunny* [09:26] <@Toprawa>  10. * Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing* [09:26] <@Toprawa>  11. * Tommy9281* [09:26] <@Toprawa>  12. * Grand Moff Tranner* [09:26] <@Toprawa>  13. * Xicer9 [09:26] <@Toprawa>  14. * Toprawa and Ralltiir* [09:26] <@Toprawa> Cav already went [09:26] * PurpleTentacle also wants floor. [09:29] <@Toprawa> GT has the floor, if Tommy is done [09:29] <@Tommy9281> Yes [09:29] <@Tommy9281> PT is up [09:30] <@PurpleTentacle> Just a queue update. [09:30] <@PurpleTentacle> https://spreadsheets.google.com/a/wookieepedia.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0AotL7G6dqTBodEY4R2MyZW5XRTRlSnQ0RGR0SURDZ0E&single=true&gid=1&output=html [09:30] <@PurpleTentacle> It's looking bad. [09:30] <@Menkooroo> The queue? [09:30] <@IFYLOFD> Hot damn. [09:30] <@Menkooroo> Although this month is a vast improvement over May so far. [09:30] <@Menkooroo> We've passed nearly fifteen FAs so far in June. [09:30] <@Menkooroo> Plus three from the RFAN. [09:30] <@PurpleTentacle> Yeah, and the queue has flatlined recently. [09:31] <@PurpleTentacle> Hopefully between the two we'll start to creep up. [09:31] <@Menkooroo> Now that we can remove failed noms from the RFAN [09:31] <@PurpleTentacle> But if we drop under a month I'm putting us back to two a week. [09:31] <@Menkooroo> we can expedite the process. [09:31] <@PurpleTentacle> At least for a while. [09:31] <@Tommy9281> Well hopefully I can ramp up the output [09:31] <@PurpleTentacle> No discussion. [09:31] <@Tommy9281> I'm down with that [09:31] <@CC7567> Fine with me [09:31] <@Menkooroo> After I update the RFAN today, everybody go review! [09:31] <@Menkooroo> For the sake of one a day!!! [09:32] <@Toprawa> I wouldn't mind if it was just one a week [09:32] <@Menkooroo> :) [09:32] <@PurpleTentacle> If RFAN gets us up to where we should be we can go back to daily. [09:32] <@Menkooroo> go back to? [09:32] <@Tommy9281> Well I can do that. [09:32] <@Menkooroo> Or... stay at? [09:32] <@Tommy9281> Let's do a minipush after the meeting [09:32] <@Toprawa> I have no shame in admitting that our production is just not what it was in 2008, when we could afford one a day [09:32] <@IFYLOFD> I've been in favor for 2 a week for a long time [09:32] <@PurpleTentacle> Menkooroo: Either. [09:32] <@Tommy9281> We just don't have the writers. [09:32] <@Menkooroo> Would two a week need a CT? [09:33] <@Tommy9281> No [09:33] <@PurpleTentacle> Yeah, fewer writers, fewer reviewers. [09:33] <@Tommy9281> It was the way things were before [09:33] <@PurpleTentacle> The CT for daily FAs said we'd only stick to it if we had enough. [09:33] <@Menkooroo> Ah, OK. [09:33] <@PurpleTentacle> So we can go back without a CT as far as I'm concerned. [09:33] <@Tommy9281> But as I said, since many of us are currently present, let's do a quick push after the meeting [09:33] <@Menkooroo> I think we can hold out a little longer, with the RFAN. [09:33] <@PurpleTentacle> Besides, if it comes to that, we really won't have a choice. [09:34] <@Menkooroo> I'll do a minipush later today, but I need to go back to bed now [09:34] <@PurpleTentacle> And I need to go finish Maniac Mansion. [09:34] <@PurpleTentacle> I'm living up to my name. :P [09:34] <@Tommy9281> Meeting over then? [09:34] <@Toprawa> Ok, meeting is adjourned. [09:35] <@Menkooroo> Joe Flaherty for the win! [09:35] <@Tommy9281> Done. [09:35] <@CC7567> We'll try to do the minipush within the next few days, then? [09:35] <@Toprawa> Thanks for coming, all [09:35] <@Menkooroo> CC: Yeah! [09:35] <@Tommy9281> CC: Sure [09:35] <@Menkooroo> OK. See everyone soon. Cheers.