Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations



This page is for the nomination of "comprehensive articles". For a list of "comprehensive articles", see Category:Wookieepedia comprehensive articles.


 * Comprehensive article nominations history
 * Comprehensive article nominations archiving checklist

What is a "comprehensive article?"

A "comprehensive article" is an article that contains all information regarding the topic. Often, "comprehensive articles" cannot reach Featured or Good Article status due to their limited content. This process is intended to recognize articles that contain all relevant canon information, yet are still under the 250 word limit required for a Good Article. The purpose of this is twofold&mdash;firstly, to help users distinguish what is a stub, and what is merely a short article with no further relevant material to be added, and, more importantly, to highlight for the reader when they are reading something that has been judged definitely "comprehensive"&mdash;that is, a guarantee to the reader that whatever they are reading contains the sum total of all available content.

Nominations and promotions of the Comprehensive article process are overseen by a collective of users known as the "EduCorps," which is made up of the Inquisitorius, the AgriCorps, and various other experienced users who are considered qualified to adequately judge the nominated material.

Lucasfilm Ltd. and its many licensees continue to expand the Star Wars universe. Since new information might become available, it may be necessary to revoke a "comprehensive article's" status. A forum will be used to nominate articles that have fallen out-of-date. Members of the EduCorps will then post a warning template on that page, and a grace period of one week will be instituted in which the article can be improved. If there is a significant amount of new information, it is likely that once updated, the article will become eligible for Good article status, and thereby ineligible for Comprehensive article status.

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An article must&hellip;


 * 1) &hellip;be well-written and detailed.
 * 2) &hellip;be unbiased, non-point of view.
 * 3) &hellip;be sourced with all available sources and appearances.
 * 4) &hellip;follow the Manual of Style, Layout Guide, and all other policies on Wookieepedia. This is, of course, within reason. If a topic only has a very limited degree of content that cannot be divided up into the relevant article sections, it is not required that it follow the Layout Guide precisely. This is to be judged on a case-by-case basis.
 * 5) &hellip;following the review process, be stable, i.e., does not change significantly from day to day and is not the subject of ongoing edit wars. This does not apply to vandalism and protection or semi-protection as a result of vandalism.
 * 6) &hellip;not be tagged with any sort of improvement tags (i.e. more sources, expand, etc).
 * 7) &hellip;have no redlinks.
 * 8) &hellip;have all relevant canon information presented.
 * 9) &hellip;be completely referenced for all available material and sources. See Sourcing for more information. While this is not required for an article possessing a singular source, it is encouraged, as it provides both uniformity and a good infrastructure should the topic be referenced in any future materials.
 * 10) &hellip;have all quotes and images sourced.
 * 11) &hellip;provide at least one relevant quote on the article if available.
 * 12) &hellip;include a "Behind the scenes" section for In-Universe articles.
 * 13) &hellip;counting the introduction, the article body, and "Behind the scenes" material, must not exceed 250 words in length (not including captions, quotes, or headers, etc). Any articles exceeding the limit should be taken to the Good article nominations page for consideration.

How to nominate:


 * 1) First, nominate an article you find is worthy of comprehensive status, putting it at the bottom of the list below. Nominated articles must meet all thirteen requirements stated above.
 * 2) Add CAnom at the top of the article you are nominating.
 * 3) Be sure to place sign in the "Nominated by" line when the nomination is posted for voting.
 * 4) Others will object to the nomination if they disagree that the article is good enough; they will then supply reasons for doing so, and ways to improve the article in accordance with the established rules.
 * 5) Nominators and supporters will adjust the article until the objectors (with reasonable objections) are satisfied. Objectors may also make alterations&mdash;if there is any reason for contention on a given point, it should be settled in a civil manner in the nomination field itself.
 * 6) Users may not vote on their own articles.
 * 7) There is no limit to the amount of nominations a given user can submit at any given time.

How to vote:


 * 1) Before doing anything, be sure to read the article completely, keeping a sharp eye out for mistakes.
 * 2) Afterward, compare the article to the criteria listed above, and then either support or object the article's nomination.
 * 3) *If you object, please supply concrete reasons for doing so, and how it can be improved.
 * 4) As stated above, any objections will be looked upon by the nominator, supporters, and anyone willing to improve the article, and action will be taken to please the objectors. Do not strike other users' objections; it is up to the objector to review the changes and strike if they are satisfied.
 * 5) There are several ways in which an article can receive the required number of votes. Within a 48-hour period of nomination, only EduCorps votes will count towards the total, although anyone may choose to vote in that window. If two members of the EduCorps support a nomination in that window, and there are no outstanding objections, the article can be considered a "Comprehensive article" and be tagged with the template 48 hours after the initial nomination.  The talk page will also be tagged with the CA template. When the 48 hours are up, any user's votes will contribute towards the total. If one EduCorps member has voted for an article after a week, three regular votes will be required. After the 48 hour period, an article can still also pass with just two EduCorps votes.
 * 6) Once a nomination is successful, it will be placed on the Comprehensive article list. Instructions on how to archive nominations, successful or otherwise, can be found here. Anyone can archive a nomination&mdash;just make sure it has the correct number of votes, has been nominated for at least a week (or 48 hours if there are two EC votes), and that there are absolutely no outstanding objections. If you are not sure how to do this, just ask, and someone will likely be more than willing to help you. Also, if you think you can slip one past us, think again&mdash;someone is always watching you.

All nominations will be considered idle and are subject to instantaneous removal by EduCorps members if objections are not addressed, or at least not answered, after a period of 2 weeks.

Widow's Valley

 * Nominated by: Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 14:25, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: So named for the unstable spires.

(1 ECs/3 Users/4 Total)
Support
 * 1)  Darth Karika  will destroy your planet! 20:09, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2)  1358  (Talk) 16:33, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) ''' Bonslywizard Trade Federation Symbol.jpg( Send a transmission ) 00:50, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) Whoops; thought I had already supported this. ~ SavageBob 02:02, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Karika
 * 2) * The body could be split up into three sentences.
 * 3) ** Needs a BtS.  Darth Karika  will destroy your planet! 16:26, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) ***Done. Thanks for the suggestion. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 20:01, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) Xd1358
 * 6) * "...near the south ridge of the city of Theed." Reads awkwardly. Perhaps the capital city Theed instead?
 * 7) * "Sykes was a pilot of the Royal Naboo Security Forces and flew through the Valley during a battle against the Trade Federation Droid Army at the end of the Invasion of Naboo in 32 BBY." Okay, this is a weird sentence. You must get this and the earlier sentence to run smoother. Please see what phrasing adjustments you can make. 1358  (Talk) 21:47, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 8) **How does it read now? Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 02:48, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * 9) ***It's still pretty choppy. It's like, which is not good.  1358  (Talk) 19:30, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * 10) ****Is there an improvement now? Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 02:33, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11) The Wizard did it
 * 12) * There needs to be some resolution to the battle. Did the Security Forces win, or the Federation? --''' Bonslywizard Trade Federation Symbol.jpg( Send a transmission ) 15:32, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 13) **Details once thought irrelevant are now added. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 01:55, October 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * 14) Soresu
 * 15) * If knocking over the pillars are not necessary, shouldn't Gamemechanics be used?
 * 16) **Should it be? Probably. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 02:27, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 17) *** Make sure that only optional things are included in the template. I think the proton bombs are required for mission completion, and there may be others. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 03:05, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 18) * any surviving convoy vehicles on the bridge were destroyed. How? By whom? SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 01:17, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 19) **By the exploding thermal detonators. Is it not clear enough? If not let me know. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 02:27, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 20) *** It isn't because you haven't said anything about them being destroyed prior to the proton bombs. This makes it seem as if some of the convoy vehicles survived the bomb detonation, and were then destroyed in some other way. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 03:05, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 21) *It is not necessary to destroy the pillars during the mission to delay the convoy. This makes it sound like it was intentionally destroyed by Sykes. In the body, however, you just say that they were knocked down. Please clarify. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 03:05, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 22) **Here's how the mission ends. By blowing the detonators with your bombs, or lasers, or destroying the MTTs (difficult to do without knocking down the pillars to delay them). Take your pick. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 04:42, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 23) ***This should be elaborated upon in the BTS. Alternate stories are noted in the "Behind the scenes" section. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 22:12, October 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * 24) ****The point I am trying to make is that there is more than one distinct way to end the mission, and I need advice on how to express this. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 23:30, October 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * 25) *****Something like: this battle appears in the nth mission of BFN. Then talk about how the player plays as Sykes. Then, address the requirements/optionals of the mission. Something to the tune of: "stopping the convoy by destroying the bridge is the only requirement for mission completion, with X serving as an optional action that delays the convoy." SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 00:23, October 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * 26) *In fact, it isn't even necessary to destroy the convoy, just the bridge. The mission objective says to "stop the convoy."

Comments
 * I could find a quote if necessary. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 14:25, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Um...where's the page? =/ --''' Bonslywizard Trade Federation Symbol.jpg( Send a transmission ) 21:44, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know; it won't show up when running a search for it. The only way to go to it is through a page which links to it (BFN appearances or Battle of the south ridge). Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 21:50, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * The apostrophe was different. --Eyrezer 23:10, September 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * I went back and made it super-comprehensive. You may want to verify everything is correct. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 02:48, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry to sound like a broken record, but I think the Unidentified Naboo canyon mentioned in the article needs to be linked and created. ~ SavageBob 17:15, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Ossluk's gloves

 * Nominated by: Tm_T(Talk) 14:54, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Small gloves doesn't fit.

(1 ECs/2 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1)  OLIOSTER  (talk) 15:01, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) If it doesn't fit, you must've quit. ~ SavageBob 17:29, October 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3)  Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 09:04, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Shouldn't you add something to the effect that the gloves were picked up by members of Revan's party? It could be placed with one of the KOTOR game completion templates. --Eyrezer 10:03, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) *AFAIK by the nature of these mostly rare random drop items, it is very likely that you don't even encounter these gloves when trying to find them. Thus I'm not sure if could mention this in any other way than already done in the Bts. –Tm_T(Talk) 14:31, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) **Also, they would be found by the Exile, if anyone, not Revan.  OLIOSTER  (talk) 16:56, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) You should also describe the color and appearance of the gloves. Did they have any special effects/bonuses? This should be detailed in the BTS. --Eyrezer 10:04, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) *Just in case the information is needed, in game, they increase your Constitution and Dexterity by 1 and Strength by 2.  OLIOSTER  (talk) 16:56, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) **Done in a way, let me know if this is good way to do it. (: –Tm_T(Talk) 17:53, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) Is there no appropriate infobox that you can use? Object/equipment/clothing, etc? -  Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 11:20, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * 8) *There's now Armor infobox, couldn't find anything better, is there? –Tm_T (Talk) 12:24, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

Atrivis Advancer

 * Nominated by: Eyrezer 19:30, October 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: None.

(2 ECs/0 Users/2 Total)
Support
 * 1)  Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 12:04, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2)  1358  (Talk) 16:49, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

Object
 * Can you vary one of the uses of "the starship"?
 * Which stats in Galaxy Guide 8 did the book direct the reader to? Stats for scout vessels? Pathfinder vessels? Generic starships? Menkooroo 16:03, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

ST-4402

 * Nominated by: Hanzo Hasashi 17:38, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:

(0 ECs/1 Users/1 Total)
Support
 * 1) ~ SavageBob 18:19, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Bonslywizard Trade Federation Symbol.jpg( Send a transmission ) 13:32, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Object
 * "ST-4402 posessed the firepower to deal with any local trouble that could arise." Does the source actually say that? --''' Bonslywizard Trade Federation Symbol.jpg( Send a transmission ) 00:09, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yea it does. Hanzo Hasashi 01:54, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmmm...even so, it seems kinda POV. Try changing the wording a little.--''' Bonslywizard Trade Federation Symbol.jpg( Send a transmission ) 17:30, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright, will do so. Hanzo Hasashi 19:54, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * ST-4402 was thought of as possessing the firepower to deal with any local trouble that could arise.  - thought of by who? You need to qualify exactly who considered this to be factual. He either possessed the firepower or not. Also, can we identify his weapon and add it into the article? - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 12:08, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hope the following's alright: Like other stormtroopers assigned to a garrison on Tatooine, ST-4402 possessed the firepower to deal with any local trouble that could arise.Hanzo Hasashi 17:19, November 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Can we identify the weapon? Looks like a T-21 to me? - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 09:09, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Definitely is, however not sure whether appearance is enough to confirm. No actual source saying it's a T-21. Hanzo Hasashi 17:31, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Unless the source states human, then you'll have to ref it to another source, which would then mean reffing the entire article. - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 12:11, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sourced entire article, CSWE as source for him (?) being human, with a behind the scenes note of how it does not actually mention him, but talks about the stormtroopers in general during Palpatine's reign. Hanzo Hasashi 17:19, November 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * One more thing - you have "Males" in the category listing, but not in the infobox, and the BTS states that the gender is not identified. You'll either need to remove the "Males" cat, or add info that states he was male. - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 09:09, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Forgot to change it. Hanzo Hasashi 17:31, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * The infobox sources "Human" to the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia, but the article's body sources it to the trading card. Something like "ST-4402 was the designation of a[2] Human[1] who served as a Imperial Stormtrooper officer assigned to a garrison on Tatooine during the Galactic Civil War.[2]" would be more accurate.
 * Keep in mind that a short article like this doesn't have an actual intro, and as such, nothing should be linked again in personality & traits. Menkooroo 16:04, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

Comments
 * Fairly obscure CCG character, being mentioned by one source alone. Also I am assuming ST-4402 is a human, because IIRC non-humans only existed within stormtrooper ranks after the formation of the New Republic. Somebody please correct me if this is not necessarily the case. Hanzo Hasashi 17:38, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Is there anything worth noting from his CCG card mechanics in the BTS? Sometimes, it's worth noting that the character had "average strength" or whatnot or if he or she had any special abilities. Apparently, writers sometimes use such stats as guidelines when they incorporate such characters into stories. ~ SavageBob 19:22, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * When in battle against an alien ST-4402 is power +2. I don't think that's worth noting. Hanzo Hasashi 19:59, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * What might be worth noting isn't the specific number or stat, but how that compares to other cards. Is that value average? Weak? Strong? In other words, you might add a line to the effect that "The game statistics presented on ST-4402's game card make the character [stronger/weaker] than other game personages." ~ SavageBob 20:04, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe the Star Wars Legacy comics showing different looking female stormtrooper armor (worn by Jes Gistang and Unidentified female stormtrooper) could be a source to verify this trooper's gender, I don't know... Hanzo Hasashi 20:58, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

TK-420

 * Nominated by: Hanzo Hasashi 18:38, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: One away from the big time (TK-421).

(1 ECs/5 Users/6 Total)
Support Object
 * 1) ~ SavageBob 18:20, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 04:01, November 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) Goodie (: –Tm_T (Talk) 08:15, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4)  Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 09:13, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) Bonslywizard Trade Federation Symbol.jpg( Send a transmission ) 13:28, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6)  OLIOSTER  (talk) 11:18, November 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Like what SavageBob said with your other nom, what are the stats for this trooper like? --''' Bonslywizard Trade Federation Symbol.jpg( Send a transmission ) 00:13, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Already covered.Hanzo Hasashi 17:21, November 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Story of my life
 * Stormtroopers of the GCW era were all male, I believe. It was only opened up to women later, because of dwindling recruitment.
 * Thanks, I assumed so, but did not remember whether or not that was confirmed. Hanzo Hasashi 19:54, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't the armor have a different chest plate if it were a woman though, per...Legacy, I suppose. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 15:45, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah and somehow that alone would probably not be sufficient evidence, as far as I understand. This is the problem with the lack of information given about characters from CCG cards alone. I really wish both ST-4402 and TK-420's card actually stated the characters' genders, so saying they are male would not be an unsourced assumption :/ Hanzo Hasashi 20:45, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
 *  NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 04:01, November 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * "Stats" is too colloquial. Try something more based in real terms, likle his abilities or something. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 15:51, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Has been changed by SavageBob into statistics earlier today. Hanzo Hasashi 20:24, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Temporarily striking my support, since you need a source for the stormtrooper's gender. ~ SavageBob 20:47, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Galaxy at War stated that there were females, albeit rare. I have thus reverted my previous edit to leave open the possibility of TK-420's gender. Hanzo Hasashi 21:40, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * As per my objection on ST-4402 above, source that he was human since the card doesn't state, which will mean reffing the entire article. - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 12:14, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * All sourced, CSWE as the source for trooper being human, made a behind the scenes note of that.

Comments
 * Another obscure CCG character mentioned by only one source alone. As with ST-4402, assuming TK-420 is a human, as I believe all stormtroopers during the Rebellion era were human. Hanzo Hasashi 18:38, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * And I think this assumption should be sourced in a way or another. –Tm_T (Talk) 09:11, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Not an assumption, stormtrooper corps was only open to non-human recruits after Palpatine's time. Hanzo Hasashi 20:00, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Then source it, please. –Tm_T (Talk) 20:41, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Will get to sourcing that at some point. Hanzo Hasashi 21:40, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Perhaps this: In the CSWE, Vol. III, p. 193, it says that "Several different sources of clones were used to create stormtroopers, especially when the Empire ramped up its military forces as Emperor Palpatine began consolidating his power. Eventually, baseline humans were conscripted or allowed to join the ranks." This seems to imply that they were either humans or human clones. ~ SavageBob 04:22, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, don't really have the time to do it now, perhaps tomorrow. Hanzo Hasashi 20:45, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * So maybe the Legacy comics with Unidentified female stormtrooper and Jes Gistang having different armor plates could source the already-obvious fact that TK-420 has to be male, I really don't know :/ Hanzo Hasashi 21:01, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

Sun shawl

 * Nominated by: Darth Morrt 15:14, November 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:

(1 ECs/0 Users/1 Total)
Support
 * 1)  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 15:50, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Jujiggum
 * 2) * If that's not the shawl in the image, then I don't really think it's needed in the article. I'm guessing, though, that you aren't sure, hence the possible appearance in Star Wars 1?
 * 3) **According to the novel, this woman wore a sun shawl in this scene. I don't know, whether the penciller had known this. Should I remove {Pos}?
 * 4) ***No, the pos should definitely stay, but I don't think the image is really needed&hellip; Does the novel give any further description of the shawl that would make it evident that the woman in the comic panel is definitely wearing it? Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 00:33, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) ****This is the one and only mention of the shawl in the novel: "... a lone old  woman  appeared and started across the street. Her  metallic  sun  shawl  was  pulled  tight around her. Something made her look up, tired eyes squinting into the distance. The sound suddenly leaped in volume as a shining rectangular shape came  roaring around a far corner. Her eyes popped  as  the  vehicle  bore  down  on  her..." No description. I think the image should be here, because it is the only possible depiction of the sun shawl. Darth Morrt 01:37, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) *****Okay, but I've placed it in the BTS instead of the Appearances section. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 19:13, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) * On that note: the article needs a BTS, and more specifically you need to address the possible appearance of the shawl in Star Wars 1 there.
 * 8) **Bts added.
 * 9) ***"The sun shawl could have appeared&hellip;" Why the speculative tone here? Could have? DO we know that it would have appeared? If not, then just mention its appearance in the novel, then say that the scene involving the woman who wore the shawl in the novel was filmed, but cut from the final film. Also, you still need to explain why Star Wars 1 is only a possible appearance of the shawl. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 00:33, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 10) ****Better? Darth Morrt 01:37, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11) *****A few things here: "The scene involving the old woman was cut before the release of the film." This mention comes out of the blue; without some more context here, it's confusing. You need to specify beforehand that the scene with the woman was shot at all before you say that it was cut from the film. You should also source this section of the BTS, particularly that the scene was cut from the released version of A New Hope. Also, I think you could explain a little better why the appearance in the comic was ambiguous. Please state that the woman appeared dressed in a white garment, but that "without description or known authorial intention" we don't know if it actually was the shawl. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 19:13, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 12) ******I don't have any source that the woman's scene was ever filmed. It is in the script and missing from the film. I stated that the scene was "cut before the release of the film", because I don't know, whether it was cut from the film or from the script during production. The color style of the comic is not always realistic, so it cannot be stated that the shawl is white. Isn't it safe enough to delete the {pos}? Thinking about it, this kind of thoroughness can lead to questioning any visual source. Darth Morrt 17:08, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * 13) *******That's precisely what my point was&mdash;without further context, it was confusing to the reader, leading me to believe that the scene had definitely been filmed. Now that you've expanded this mention, though, it makes sense. Also, you seem to have misunderstood the other part of my objection. I did not want you to remove the "without description or known authorial intention" bit&mdash;and it's for that very reasoning that we can't say for sure that the woman in the comic was wearing the shawl. Again, please explain that the woman appeared in a garment, but without further description and known intent, we can't say for certain that it was the shawl. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 20:47, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * 14) ********Yeh, I've misunderstood it, sorry. Darth Morrt 10:21, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * 15) * Hmm, just because one person on Tatooine is shown to wear the shawl doesn't mean that the shawls were completely affiliated with them. For all we know, she may have been the only one on Tatooine to use it (not likely, but the point is that we don't know)
 * 16) **Removed.
 * 17) * You say a woman wore "a metallic shawl" to protect herself from the binary stars of the Tatoo system; however, you have yet to state that this type of shawl was metallic, so you could be referring to a different kind of shawl here for all the reader knows.
 * 18) **Fixed.
 * 19) ***This remains. You still don't specify earlier that the shawl was metallic. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 00:33, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 20) ****IMO, just the woman's sun shawl is known to be metalic. Other sun shawls' material could be different. Darth Morrt 01:37, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 21) * Why isn't Star Wars 1 italicized in the appearances section?
 * 22) **Fixed.
 * 23) * Also, just to verify&mdash;there are no applicable quotes?
 * 24) **The only possible quote would be the one in the image, but I think it is not related.
 * 25) ***No, that's not related at all. I just wanted to be sure. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 00:33, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 26) * Jonjedigrandmaster ( Talk ) 21:06, November 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 27) **Thanks for the copy-edit. Darth Morrt 23:54, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

Chief gunnery officer

 * Nominated by: Darth Morrt 01:47, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: A very underused rank from the ANH novel.

(0 ECs/1 Users/1 Total)
Support Object
 * 1)  OLIOSTER  (talk) 11:31, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

Comments
 * Hija's section is the intro of his page. Should I reword it?
 * Yeah, even if you just paraphrase, it needs to be distinctly different wording than that of another article. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 07:29, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, rephrased. Darth Morrt 10:56, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Guardian (Venator-class)

 * Nominated by:  Agent Cards <> 03:08, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: My first run through this process, lets see if an article I started is good enough to be deemed comprehensive.

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 * Is the Jedi General mentioned the player? If so, we have an article of them (Unidentified Padawan (Clone Wars)). Also, since the player is apparently a Padawan, shouldn't they be a Jedi Commander, or are you promoted to Jedi Knight and Jedi General through the course of the game?  OLIOSTER  (talk) 11:20, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * The Jedi General is the player and the mission is only available once you become a Jedi Knight, hence why I put the rank of General.  Agent Cards <> 12:47, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * If you go and add "Description" and "Commanders and crew" sections (per WP:LG), you prolly have good GAN in your hands, any reason why not go for it? I know I was scared by it at time, now feel silly by it. (: –Tm_T (Talk) 11:51, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I basically just felt the article was too short to be in with the GANs. :D  Agent Cards <> 12:47, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Go ahead and add 'em, as there's now infobox-only information AFAICS. (: –Tm_T (Talk) 14:28, November 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Are the majority of those infobox stats assumptions? Because if SW:CCS doesn't say that the Guardian had that amount of, for example, compliment, you can't have it. 1358  (Talk) 13:10, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * The stats are listed as standard for a Venator-class Star Destroyer, since there is no mention as to any modifications shouldn't the ship be treated as "stock"? If not please inform me as to why. :)  Agent Cards <> 12:53, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * There is no reason why we 'should assume that this ship has the "normal" amount of, for example, compliment, to be honest. That is complete speculation. I suggest you remove everything that is not confirmed. 1358  (Talk) 13:41, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Is the Guardian explicitly mentioned in Star Wars: Complete Cross-Sections, the databank entry you have listed, and Star Wars Annual 2011? I appreciate that you are using sources as references for some of the information contained in the article, but unless they actually mention the Guardian itself, they cannot be included in the article's source list. --Jinzler 14:45, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * The Databank and Cross-Sections sources are for Venator-class Star Destroyers which is what this ship is, as there is no mention of any special modifications to the ship it shouldn't it be treated as if it was stock straight out of Kuat Drive Yards? If I'm wrong please inform me as to why :).  Agent Cards <> 12:47, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * RE-read your statement and I think I may have misread it the first time around... I thought we couldn't reference/cite things that aren't listed in the article's sources section.  Agent Cards <> 13:10, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * The Star Wars Annual 2011 is just to source the 21 BBY date seeing as the game follows the TV series it has the same time frame.  Agent Cards <> 12:47, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * The "Sources" section of an article is only meant to list sources in which the article's subject matter itself has been mentioned, so in this case, only any sources that explictly mention the Guardian. It is perfectly acceptable to reference other sources to provide an article with background information, such as referencing Star Wars Annual 2011 for the 21 BBY date, but these sources should not be included in the article's source list. --Jinzler 13:21, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I was under the impression that if it was referenced it needed to be listed in the sources. Anyway thank you for that information, I have fixed it in the article.  Agent Cards <> 14:22, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

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Tau serpent

 * Nominated by: NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 12:16, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:What is it with LucasArts and leaving trilogies unfinished? They haven't actually finished a story in years, if ever since they truck along with stupid ideas, spin-offs, and sequels. TFU should at least be finished so they don't rush out a crappy retcon in another crappy book to explain the ending of TFUII. Also, while I rant on that. KOTOR.

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 * Is the infobox really needed?  OLIOSTER  (talk) 16:24, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe adding Snake or Reptile to the infobox class would help, if it is not too speculative. Darth Morrt 19:31, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * I figured that those would be speculative since it could just as easily be some mammal, bug, or even a crustacean since it's an alien animal. There was just nothing to put into the infobox fields, but I knew people would object to the absence of one. Perhaps thet GC could weigh in on this. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 23:34, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Isn't serpent a synonym for snake? Darth Morrt 00:08, November 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * I just think that if there is no information to fill it with, there shouldn't be an infobox. Once information you can put in it becomes available, then add it.  OLIOSTER  (talk) 11:33, November 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed, no infobox needed. MasterFred Commerce Guild.svg(Whatever) 13:50, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

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Mol Ni'mai

 * Nominated by:  OLIOSTER  (talk) 13:42, November 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: I bring you more from SWG!

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