Talk:Revan/Archive1

Think we should copy the "Revan as Master Planner" section over from wikipedia? I kind of like it. --Fade 15:33, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Do it baby. But keep it IU. --Kosure 15:37, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

I also suggest incorporating it to the biography. This is somehow messy and repetitive that way. Moff Rebus 21:32, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Kreia/Kae
Aren't Kreia and Kae the same person? Both are described as being Revan's first master, female, exiled from the order, and having taught Revan how to leave the Jedi. -Imperialles 22:03, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Having played through the Sith Lords only once, I can only say I had never noticed it- but net searches seem to indicate it's rather hotly debated --Fade 22:12, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Playing through recently, the game made a mention of Kae going to war (Handmaiden hates me, so that's all I know, and I can't remember much about Kae from my first play through) but that would indicate that she isn't Kreia, given that Kreia didn't go to war. --Fade 18:05, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Title
Wait, shouldn't this be under Revan, as it was his real name before the Darth title was added, unlike later Sith. --Fade 18:20, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Yep, excellent point. --Imperialles 18:43, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
 * No, because it was Revan and Malak who started the whole "Darth" idea. This page should be marked under Darth Revan. For its Darth Revan most characters in KOTOR I & II refer too. Jasca Ducato 08:58, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Sabre style
Anyone know what lightsaber style Revan used, before or after his 'death'? Just wondering; the one he uses aboard the ship (picture on the page) resembles Sidious'. I thought that was pretty cool when I saw epIII, considering KotOR was made long before.


 * Judging from Revan's stance against Bastila and the Jedi strike team (just before Malak fires upon him), it looks as if he's using Form IX: Shien, most noteably because of his lightsaber facing his opponent horizontaly. However, it's also likely that Revan used Form X: Niman / Jar'Kai, because of his appearnce with dual-lightsabers in KOTOR II. Juding from just how powerful a figure Revan really is, it would not surprise me if he was a master of both Forms, choosing one depending on the situation. --Raganork 05:57, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Image
That image looks awful, which is why I replaced it in the first place. I'll try an dig up a better one. Can we delete the crap one if I fond one? --Fade 17:50, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC) It's just that the actual quality of the images isn't that great. I don't really want to say it, because I grabbed it, but I think the first shot is perfect. Perhaps I can grab one from the 'revelation' scene, just before Revan removes their mask. I should be there in the next day or two. --Fade 20:59, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * That one gives a pretty good head-on view of the character. It also avoids revealing a gender. This one any better? --SparqMan 18:59, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Leviathan
EDIT: Oops, forgot to count Dantooine. My bad. Lord Patrick 05:16, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Canon Male
Perhaps we should add a "Since Light-sided male is the canonical ending, this article will refer to Revan as a male" or something like that like they do on Wikipedia.


 * The article on the Jedi Exile certainly makes has no such bar. User:SFH


 * What? -Anon

Malak, Just a Friend?
I thought he was Revan's Padawan? And Revan was a Jedi Master... before his mind was wiped of course
 * No he wasn't. Revan was barely a Jedi Knight. QuentinGeorge 06:08, 25 Oct 2005 (UTC)

KOTOR 2 Chronicles on KOTOR2:TOS states he is a Jedi Master razzy1319
 * The KOTOR 2 chronicles are notortious for being filled with mistakes regarding what they describe. evan being a Jedi master is one of them. Jasca Ducato 15:24, 25 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * And suggesting that the DS ending of KOTOR I was true, that Revan was already a Sith during the Mandalorian Wars, that Exile was a Jedi Knight, etc. In KOTOR I, it is explicitly said: "Two Jedi Knights, Revan and Malak, defied the Order <...>". Maybe we should email Leland Chee to confirm the Chronicles' level of canonicity? - Sikon [ Talk ] 15:44, 25 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Most of what the Chronicles say is ridiculous true - but the notion of Revan becoming a Sith during the Mandalorian Wars is heavily implied during KotOR II. Did anyone actually play the game? Too many people assume that Revan turned to the dark side in the final battle - but we're told that it was after the final battle that he started to convert everybody.  You CANNOT learn the ways of the Sith and convert thousands of people to your cause in a single day.  Ergo Revan discovered Malachor and the Sith teachings sometime during the Mandalorian Wars - not at the end.

Always thought that jedi knight was more of a title for all jedi master, knight or padawan. And cant see any errors in Chronicles... could someone point them out.
 * Point them out? Lets see... how about the enitre thing! Jasca Ducato 16:07, 25 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, for the starters (from Part XIII):

"Individual Jedi begin to leave the Jedi Order, and the Jedi Watchmen of many systems, disenchanted with the endless, pointless struggles, step down and exile themselves in unknown quadrants of the galaxy, echoing the disillusionment of Jedi Master JOLEE BINDO."

Well, unless Jolee ascended from Padawan to Master in five years.

"Atris attempts to call a Jedi Conclave under the strict agreement of secrecy on a Midrim world. She struggles to comprehend her actions as the Conclave is interrupted when every single Jedi attending vanishes without a trace. It is later discovered that all of them were savagely culled by Dark Side Sith Assassins under the command of DARTH NIHILUS."

Nihilus didn't use Sith Assassins, only Sion did. And the Jedi didn't fall victims to Sith Assassins, they were just consumed by Nihilus, as well as all life on the planet, save Visas Marr.

From Part XII:

"After a long and vicious battle in the deepest area of the STAR FORGE, Dark Lord of the Sith DARTH REVAN succeeds in destroying his ex-apprentice DARTH MALAK."

No comments. The word "canonical ending" means nothing to us.

I sent an email to Leland Chee questioning the canonicity of the Chronicles. However, if they prove to be canonical, it will mean that we'll finally know the class of the Leviathan - it was an Interdictor-class Star Frigate.

Sikon [ Talk ] 16:15, 25 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Revan's Name similarity with Vader
I was thinking the name of revan when I noticed that maybe it comes from Vader. Thats what I see:
 * REVAN
 * R-E-V-A-N
 * VADER
 * V-A-D-E-R
 * 1. Similarity: 5 Letters
 * Now I take the name Vader and....
 * R-E-D-A-V
 * 2. Similarity: It have almost the same letters (They looks as brothers names)...
 * Its comming... now I change the V with the D and the D I repleaced it with N
 * R-E-V-A-N
 * SEE??? [I Edit It]
 * No, I don't see. I don't think they meant it that deep. I always presumed Revan is derived from "raven". - Sikon [ Talk ] 01:36, 12 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, did you know that you're evil? This page mathematically proves that Anonymous is evil.  &mdash;Darth Culator   (talk)  01:46, 12 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Omg and liek Malak is Maul bcuz tey both have weirdlookig heads and they hav mal in their names lol MarcK 01:55, 12 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * LOL! Added information about Malak's name origin, from Wikipedia. - Sikon [ Talk ] 02:05, 12 Nov 2005 (UTC)


 * I always assumed Revan's name to be a play on "Revenant" - which means "One who returns from a lengthy abscence", one who "comes back", or more frequently, "someone who has returned from the dead"... sound like anyone we know? Hmm...