Forum:CT Archive/Preparing for TOR

With the beta of Star Wars: The Old Republic approaching, I thought it might be a good idea to establish some consensus on a couple of issues. This CT contains two proposals, elaborated on below. Please do not add any additional voting options to this CT. --Imperialles 23:13, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

NDA
Early-access beta testers will almost certainly be bound by a non-disclosure agreement, intended to stop leaks. What we have to decide is whether or not to accept NDA-breaching content being added to this wiki. As far as I can tell, these are the pros of allowing such information:
 * We get the content early, which might entice people to browse our site for information.
 * We start organizing the information from this canon behemoth as soon as possible, to achieve a greater encyclopedic standard of quality as fast as possible.

The cons:
 * Hosting the NDA-breaching information is probably illegal.
 * By hosting NDA-breaching information, we attract negative attention from the companies behind the game. Cease and desist notices have been frequently employed in similar cases by other MMO developers (notably Blizzard Entertainment).

I propose we outright ban any addition of NDA-breaching content, whether it take the form of text or files. Any such information would be subject to immediate removal, with severe consequences for the offender (to be decided by admins on a case-by-case basis).

It is perhaps worth noting that as soon as BioWare or LucasArts lifts the NDA, the information would be more than welcome on our site. --Imperialles 23:13, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Don't accept NDA-breaching content

 * 1) Per my arguments above. --Imperialles 23:13, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Seems very obvious.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 23:36, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) Seems like a no-braner. -  JMAS  Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 23:40, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) NDAs usually exist for a reason. Thefourdotelipsis 23:51, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Accept NDA-breaching content

 * 1) We've always accepted information from official sources prior to official release dates, and I don't see a reason to make an exception. And I honestly don't think it's worth adding to the administrative workload to specifically police this. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 23:40, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

 * While I agree that we should pay lip service to the NDA, perhaps we might be able to have people write up the information on non-linked-to user subpages, so that when the NDA is lifted, we can instantaneously implement all this stuff. But I don't know whether just having it on a subpage is still an NDA breach or not. Thefourdotelipsis 23:51, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Citation template
Given the enormous scope and open world-nature of The Old Republic, I propose we promote usage of a citation template for TOR references. It would look something like this:

The context field would be used to describe the context in which the information being referenced was found. The amount of detail supplied would be entirely up to the individual editor, but it wouldn't hurt to mention things such as specific quests or situations. This would increase the verifiability of our articles without being a major hassle.

I should note that this template would be for references only, not Appearances lists. --Imperialles 23:13, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Promote usage of a citation template

 * 1) Imperialles 23:13, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Darth Culator (Talk) 23:40, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Specific referencing is always good. Grunny  ( talk ) 23:42, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2)  JMAS  Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 23:43, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) Thefourdotelipsis 23:52, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Discussion
If this passes, I will make a "SWGCite" template as well, seeing as content in Star Wars Galaxies is presented in a nearly identical fashion to TOR. --Imperialles 23:49, May 11, 2010 (UTC)