User talk:SavageBob/Archive 04

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Defending your Freedom

 * Just a heads up, you still have an open objection on this nom on the CA page.  OLIOSTER  (talk) 12:58, March 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * I suppose I wasn't considering that an objection. No matter, done! ~ SavageBob 15:56, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Defending Your Freedom
Hey, you supported that on the CAN however the objection was not struck. Could you please strike it? Cheers, 1358  (Talk)  13:16, March 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * You know you have missed something when you get duplicate reminders. :P Apologies. 1358  (Talk)  13:23, March 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * See above. :P ~ SavageBob 15:56, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Palso Thern appearances
Hi SavageBob, is Palso Thern at all visible in the ROTJ photocomic? If you don't know who he is, no worries, there's a photo of him from ROTJ in his article :) Thanks. Hanzo Hasashi 19:18, March 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the late response; I think I missed this message originally! I'm going to say yes, but just barely. There's a picture of the briefing in Home One, and there's a red-suited pilot standing to the upper-left of Threepio who is almost certainly Thern, but his head is cut off by the top of the panel so it's hard to be 100% sure. But based on the image in the Thern article, it must be him. Hope this helps! ~ SavageBob 19:02, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

When you have the time
Hello Bob, I know that you have finals this week, which is the week of my break, so you are probably understandably busy. I am in no hurry, so when you have the time, can you tell me if Vandolay appears in either the ESB PhotoComic or if he's pictured in the Storybook? As always, thanks in advance for the help. Hanzo Hasashi 04:47, March 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll take a look. Where exactly would he be? It's hard to tell what scene he's in from the article. ~ SavageBob 06:20, March 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * On the Avenger during its pursuit of the Millennium Falcon in the Anoat System, seen working in the crewpits. Hanzo Hasashi 16:10, March 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey Bob, have you gotten the time to check those books yet for Vandolay appearances? If you are still busy in real life, don't worry about it and no need to give me the information anytime soon, just hoping you haven't forgotten :) Hanzo Hasashi 23:38, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll see if I can get to it tonight. Got one more paper to turn it, but I'm waiting on my proofreader to get it back to me! :) ~ SavageBob 23:51, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Where exactly does he appear? There are two dudes who might be him; one visible during the line, "Bounty hunters. We don't need their scum!" and one during the line "Captain Needa, the ship no longer appears on our scopes." Either of those fit the bill? ~ SavageBob 03:39, March 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * The latter, assuming you're talking about some black uniformed officer. Here's a movie screenshot: http://nl.starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bestand:Derdram_Vandolay.jpg. Hanzo Hasashi 16:14, March 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey Bob, I hope this does not come off as rude, but, since this character also appears in the same movie, when you do the Vandolay adaptation checks can you perhaps also look for Hudiss? He was the communications chief aboard the Executor who could be seen at his station during Captain Needa's death and when Vader ordered Piett to detect all flight paths of the Millennium Falcon, Piett gives him the order "alert all commands. Deploy the fleet." Hanzo Hasashi 20:16, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * It appears that the back of Vandolay's head appears in the photo-comic. Is Hudiss visible during the line, "Bounty hunters. We don't need that scum"? There's a guy who could be him, sitting in front of a computer screen, with the guy who says that line looking over his shoulder. Sorry, I suck at ID'ing Imperials! ~ SavageBob 20:55, March 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Many obscure characters from the movies I went on their Yodapedia pages years ago and in many cases saw where they could be found in movies. Here's an image of Hudiss from the film. No he is not in that bounty hunters scene, just at his console when Needa is strangled. He and another technician are near Piett, flanked by one of Piett's captains and also Lieutenant Suba. Hudiss and the other technician pull switches on their consoles when Piett gives the order to deploy Death Squadron's fleet in search of the Millennium Falcon. Hope that helps, I used to suck at this too. :) Hanzo Hasashi 23:26, March 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * In that case, it appears that Vandolay is in the Photocomic, but Hudiss is not! ~ SavageBob 23:33, March 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and I have now also put Vandolay up for a GAN! Hanzo Hasashi 23:39, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Image uploading
I can't upload an image for the page of Steve Gerber, so I hoped that you could do it for me :) This is the link: http://www.swanshadow.com/2008/02/rip-steve-gerber.html Love your userpage. Greets --Station7 16:06, March 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, Station7! I found a public domain image of him that I've uploaded: Image:Steve Gerber (cropped).jpg. We prefer public domain or copyleft over fair use images whenever possible, so I hope this one will suffice for your purposes! ~ SavageBob 16:14, March 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you SavageBob. it's alright for me, and the administrators didn't deleted it. I think it's good enough. I really like your userpage. Especially the GA, FA and the CA articles. --Station7 21:22, March 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Glad it works for you! As for the user page, feel free to steal any elements of it you like. :) ~ SavageBob 22:42, March 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but you did missundertsood me :(. Again, I can't upload an image. Can you upload this image from Don Ivan Punchatz. Source is this site: http://fatdesign.org/?p=12. Greets --Station7 22:50, March 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Bob, not to force you, but you could you upload the image from the above message? Greets, your friend ;) --Station7 00:42, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, sorry; I've been really busy with real life. :( You may want to ask someone else to help you with this one. Sorry! ~ SavageBob 01:51, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

GAN
Hey Bob, just wanted to remind you that you have a few unstricken objections currently remaining on the Bouncer (clone trooper) GAN that the nominator has addressed. If you're satisfied with the changes, we can archive the nomination as successful. Thanks. :) Toprawa and Ralltiir 00:05, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * D'oh! Thanks for the reminder. ~ SavageBob 00:09, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Chronicles
Hey friend,

I have a favor to ask you! I feel a little bad since you've already provided me with info from the Galactic Phrase Book and The Making of ESB, but I'm wondering if you can help me out with Chronicles. I've completed a first draft of Lumpy, and as far as I know, Chronicles is the only source I haven't been able to check. Would you be able to let me know what the book says about our pint-sized friend? If so, thank you so much, and if not, no worries. Cheers! Menkooroo 11:48, March 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries, anytime! Here ya go: "Lumpy was originally slated to be the lead character in Lucas's More American Graffiti. At the time, Ron Howard was asking for more money than Lucasfilm was willing to pay, so George Lucas proposed filming the entire movie with little people in Wookiee suits. The second draft script describes Lumpy as 'A furball with a roaring dragster and a bad attitude." OK, I made that up. The real info is that "We are introduced to [Chewbacca's] wife, Malla, his son, Lumpy, and his father, Itchy." There is an image by Joe Johnston showing the Wookiee characters, which includes the note, "mother & baby Wookiee could be a little plumper." It was drawn on 3-8-79. There's also an image of Chewie with Malla standing behind Itchy, seated in a chair, as Lumpy stands to his side. (all this on p. 124). Then, on p. 125, we get a McQuarrie concept pic of the Wookiee living room with Lumpy seated on the floor looking at a holotable. A still from the special shows the Death Star trooper guy standing next to Malla and Lumpy, with the caption, "At times, Chewbacca's family is under Imperial surveillance, and his home is searched by the authorities." That's it! Get that thing to FAN. ~ SavageBob 03:47, March 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, I have a more important question for you: Why are you so awesome? Seriously, this is really appreciated! Thank you so much. The article isn't quite ready for the FAN page; it's rough and needs a few copy-edits. I'll get right on it. Menkooroo 03:50, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Species of Endor
Hey Bob. After looking at some of your Endor species GAs in relation to preparing to review the Unidentified six-legged creature GAN, I noticed that you don't include the Species of Endor category in your status articles for Endor species. I was hoping to get your approval to go ahead and add this category to all relevant articles for consistency with all of these Endor species articles. Even if we don't know the species is necessarily indigenous to Endor, I believe the category is broad enough to allow inclusion of any species residing on the moon. Let me know what you think. Thanks. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:04, March 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, Tope. Yeah, as long as the category is being interpreted as meaning "species found on Endor" rather than "species native to Endor," it should be fine. I'd opt for the latter definition myself (since Humans, say, are found on Endor), but as long as we're consistent, I don't have a problem with it per se. ~ SavageBob 19:07, March 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, if there's no other issue, I'll try to add in the category, or may get a bot to do it, before too long. If you want, and there's enough data to justify doing so, we could probably create a subcategory of that category for actual confirmed indigenous species. Thanks again. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:16, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Clantaani
You were doing so well! Before you added the CitG section, it was only around 500 words -- perfectly on target for GA length. :P --Eyrezer 03:21, March 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * D'oh! I'll have to word-count it and see where it is at the moment. :) ~ SavageBob 03:34, March 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Currently 1,053 words. It could go down more. We'll see... ~ SavageBob 04:13, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

One last smudge
The last thing Toprawa wants added to Obitoki is the page number of his CSWE entry. Could you please throw that into the Source listing and the citation for me? NaruHina Talk  05:33, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Galaxies
Hi Bob, I was just reading [swg.wikia.com/wiki/Dr._Fool this article] on the SWG Wiki and it seems to suggest that Ebareebaveebeedee was mentioned in Star Wars Galaxies. I'm unsure of the specifics of this, so do you think the Ebaree article needs updating? --Jinzler 07:27, March 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I just realized that you weren't actually the nominator of that article. I had just kind of assumed that you were, because it is Squib-related... --Jinzler 08:05, March 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Wasn't that an AdmirableAckbar piece? He's not around much anymore, so I am glad you brought this to my attention. :) I'll investigate. ~ SavageBob 14:59, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Bib Fortuna
Hey man! Sorry about accidentally having a undo war with you there, I threw my language info in there and kept noticing typos and so kept fixing them, I didn't intend to keep undoing it on you. When I was done, though, I looked at the page and saw that all of my sourcing and the section I made was gone... I can't understand why you deleted it as it's reliable information that I, many times have wondered myself. Please enlighten me. --LikeDaniel 04:43, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see what you did. Nevermind, man!--LikeDaniel 04:44, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries; it is indeed worthwhile information; all I did was Wookieefy it (make it conform to the layout guidelines of the site) and remove the presumed Ryl language, since we don't allow speculation. I hope that makes sense! :) ~ SavageBob 05:00, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Help Wanted
hi since you are interested in the light side of the force, i would like you to contribute to my wiki, witch focuses on trandoshans, wookies, Republic, and CIS forces during the clone wars. go to mec.wikia.com to find my wikia and post on my talk page here for more info on it Thank You! --Indianasean 05:14, April 4, 2011 (UTC) P.S you can do only republic and wookies if you want.
 * Thanks for the invite, but I have to pass. I'm too busy in real life. Good luck, though! ~ SavageBob 14:57, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Ree-Yees
Ree-Yees is played by Richard Bonehill / Paul Springer / Mike Quinn

www.imdb.com/character/ch0036747/
 * Hey, thanks for trying to improve the Wook. Unfortunately, IMDB is not considered a reliable source for this kind of trivia. We don't accept as reliable sources that are fan-created, and for this kind of thing, IMDB is. Also, don't forget to sign your comments by typing ~ . Cheers, ~ SavageBob ~ Talk ~ 01:34, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

If IMDB is not reliable source. What is then ? Hard to find more. But here is a try. starwarsinterviews1.blogspot.com/2010/01/richard-bonehill-interview.html --G Madine 02:09, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd argue that, as a fan site, that isn't reliable either. But I'm just one opinion: Why don't you post a Senate Hall thread to get other folks' opinions? They may disagree with me. ~ SavageBob ~ Talk ~ 02:50, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Nom nom
Hey man. I hate to try to extort votes, but Qid Proko is now up for a GAN. I know you're busy, but you seemed interested in helping when it was a CAN, so hopefully you'd be able to take a look at it now.--Demos Traxen 23:06, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries; I didn't realize it was up at GAN. I'll definitely take a look. ~ Savage  B Aliens_Logo.png B ~ 01:04, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Sigs
Hey Bob. Cool signature. Regarding your first question, I haven't encountered any problem while tweaking your signature in preview mode. All you need to do is format each "B" as B. Regarding your second question,  should prevent line-breaking, but at the expense of creating spaces between the letters in "BOB". So the full code for "BOB" should go like this: B  &amp;nbsp;  &amp;nbsp;  B  &amp;nbsp;~ Hope that helps. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 11:39, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Rica on the CAN

 * I assume the first objection is yours as well. If it is, can you please strike it so it can be archived. Thanks.  OLIOSTER  (talk) 09:54, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

The Thrawn Trilogy Sourcebook, p. 86
''From the personal journal of Voren Na'al, Director of New Republic Council Research. This is a confidential document, not for public dissemination. Mara Jade is a slim, athletic young woman, possessing the grace of a Galloan Wind Dancer and the fighting prowess of a cornered Tusken Raider. This ferocious young smuggler often radiates sheer bitterness, hatred and loss, marring her beauty.''
 * You will also find it in The Last Command Sourcebook, p.92. --Eyrezer 08:22, April 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, brilliant! How'd you find that? ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 15:49, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Knock it off
All right, Bob. Knock off the NPA accusations. Right now. When you can cite specific examples where I have actually personally attacked you per the definition of the policy on this page, then go lodge a formal complaint. But until that actually happens, drop the false accusations of impropriety, which in itself is a violation of this page. I don't care if you disagree with me on a forum page, but you're not going to play the victim card and wave the NPA banner at every turn because you can't take a heated debate. This is me speaking to you as an administrator. Don't take it any further. Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:43, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * This is where I feel you crossed the line: "See, that's where the problem arises, Bob. You choose what rules and policies you wish to follow according to your preferences and opinions. You didn't support this specific measure when it passed at the Mofference, and now that it's actually applying to you, you're chafing under it and finding every window of opportunity to not adhere to it." Here, I feel I've been painted unfairly and personally in a manner that brings my character into question. WP:NPA states, "Comment on content, not the contributor," and that's not what has happened in this comment. As for the examples, accusing me of "[choosing] what rules and policies [I] wish to follow" is, it seems to me, the same as "X is a troll" or "Y is a bad editor." I honestly was not trying to make a WP:POINT in any of this mess; I merely wanted to clarify the rules, whatever they may be, regardless of whether I agree or disagree with them. WP:NPA tells us, "Assume good faith, be civil and adhere to good wiki etiquette when stating disagreements to avoid personalizing them and try to minimize unnecessarily antagonistic comments." The comment I quoted above turned the debate personal, attacking me and my character, and that's what I responded to. ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 02:31, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Please note that my last comment on the SH page applies here, too. There's absolutely no reason for any of this&mdash;that is, any kind of personal attack or accusation of personal attacks&mdash;to exist over the topic that was being debated. Let's everybody please drop this now, particularly now that the subject at hand appears to have been resolved. Thank you. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 02:37, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Jugs is correct, this needs to stop, and I recognize my part in perpetuating this. I apologize to you, Bob, if you felt that I attacked your character or insulted you to any extent. Hopefully we can put this behind us and try to hammer out some kind of compromise to this GAN page rule contradiction. Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:40, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries; I appreciate the sentiment. If something good comes from this (i.e., a rules clarification), that's all the for the best. ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 02:49, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

EduCorps nomination
Hey Savage, thanks for your review on my Snow monster article. I see you're part of the EduCorps; I recently nominated myself for the EduCorps, but nobody's voted so far, and there's only a week left :X. Do you think you could get the ball rolling by voting either for or against me (preferably for, of course, but it's your vote)? Thanks a lot!&mdash; Axinal  Convocation Chamber 19:49, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I think maybe folks are unprepared to vote for you since it was a self-nom? Perhaps let it expire and wait it out a bit. I'm sure you'll get nominated sooner or later. I realize this probably isn't the response you were hoping to get, but I personally would be more comfortable voting for you on someone else's nomination, if that makes sense. :) ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 19:51, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Heh, I understand, that's fine. I saw that users were allowed to nominate themselves, so I figured I'd go ahead and do it. I'm prepared to wait patiently :P. Thanks for your quick response!&mdash; Axinal  Convocation Chamber 19:59, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Ewoks date
Thanks for pointing that out. However, I am little concerned about the lenght of that reference. It doesn't look good when editing the article. Do you think there would be a way to shorten it a little bit? Kreivi Wolter 16:22, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * I believe that would fit. Oh, and since we are speaking about Ewoks, I noticed that you uploaded the image to A Star Wars CELibration. Do you own a copy of that insider? 'Cause I have a question about it. Kreivi Wolter 19:28, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Good, good. I'm in no hurry, so when ya have time, could you check does it mention Admiral Kazz? And if it does, does it provide anything noteworthy about him? Thank you. Kreivi Wolter 19:37, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Being able to check it yet? Kreivi Wolter 17:52, April 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * D'oh... Thanks for the reminder (in the future, feel free to ping me earlier if I forget something! :)) There seems to be no mention of good 'ol Kazz, although the article does call the episode he appears in the best of Season 2. ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 17:57, April 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Very well. Thanks for cheking it. One more thing: I noticed you downloaded this animation cell. Do you think you could do the same for Kazz? Kreivi Wolter 18:24, April 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, no. Those cells were up on eBay a while ago, and I grabbed the seller's images before they were taken down or sold. I had to focus on only a few, so I grabbed the ones that showed aliens. Sorry! ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 18:54, April 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Allright. That would be all. Many thanks for your time. Kreivi Wolter 19:16, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Salporin
I think you were right the first time about that Wookiee toy being Grawkchawa (sp?) rather than Salporin. The braids coming down from the chin, the similar headgear, and even the face all look more like Grawkchewwaaaaa than Salporin, I think. Menkooroo 05:32, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * And the dark stripe down the middle of the forehead! Menkooroo 05:34, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but the outfit is wrong. That's what made me change it to Salporin. Compare the outfits, and let me know what you think. ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 05:35, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd go for Grakchawwa with Salporin's outfit. I think that appearance should be more of a giveaway than clothing --- with the face, the forehead stripe, and the chin-braids, can it really be Salporin at all? Menkooroo 05:39, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Good point. I'll put it back. I think I'll post all the Hasbro Wookiees to the barn-burner discussion area for more feedback. It may be that we can't positively ID any of the unnamed Hasbro Wookiees, but crowdsourcing is a good thing in this case. :) ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 05:47, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Good idea. And I actually didn't even see the live-action images on the toy packages before; I was just looking at the figures! But I was able to ID Lachichuk and Guanta using said images, and, regarding the Salporin/Grakchawwaa discrepancy, I think that this and this are definitely Grakchawwaa. Right down to the orange hair bands! :D Menkooroo 06:06, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Flying serpent
Hey Bob, I noticed you supported my nomination; thanks for your help on that! You forgot to sign your name when you supported, though :P. I could to an thing, but I'm not sure that would be appropriate. Thanks!&mdash; Axinal  Convocation Chamber 21:51, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Whoops! Sig must've sprouted wings and flown away. Fixed! ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 00:21, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Bob! Yeah, they seem to do that sometimes. :P&mdash; Axinal  Convocation Chamber 00:58, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re: -ing
No problem; I do try to avoid them sometimes, since the wrong application can lead to a breach from the past tense. It's just about figuring out which ones are which. Anyway, thanks for the review! :) Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 02:51, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Scarlett
Hey Bob, thank you for the kind words. Since semi-sentient species articles can use both the species template and the sentient template, and since we do have named mimphs (who certainly act sentient) in canon, it does make perfect sense to me to use the sentient template. Thank you for the advice!&mdash; Axinal  Convocation Chamber 23:50, April 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * This does create a problem, however, as the sentient template prevents one from adding the semi-sentient designation. For this reason and others, your logic that the two templates should be merged into one makes sense to me. I'll leave the template as-is for now, but I will take a look at that thread and voice my opinions. Perhaps this can be resolved before I'm finished working on the article. Thanks again!&mdash; Axinal  Convocation Chamber 23:54, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Troigs
Hey Bob - I have access to it but currently have no home Internet access until next week so I'll do it then. Feel free to bug me if I don't get to it before the end of next week :P - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 07:49, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Fodesinbeed
Judging from the Fodesinbeed article's source list, The Official Star Wars Fact File 121 is the source for the last name Annodue. Do you have evidence to the contrary that would justify your edit and page move? Grand Moff Tranner (Comlink) 17:56, May 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Whoops... I've been taking notes on Troigs, and I've checked all sources but the Fact File. Figures that would be the source to canonize the concept name! Thanks for bringing it to my attention; I think everything should be back the way it was again. :/ ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 04:16, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Barn-burner: Halfway home
Hey there, Bob.

I want to thank you for your efforts so far during Wookieepedia's first barn-burner. This is a not-so-personal message that's being sent out to every participant, but rest assured that everybody affiliated with this project deserves the highest praise. I've been very pleased with the number of users who have been writing, nominating, and reviewing Wookiees and Wookiee-related articles this month. Awesome job, all of you.

We're a little past the halfway mark, and at this point, I'd like to encourage everybody to focus their efforts on reviewing. Many users have been reviewing a lot already, and yes, you're absolutely welcome and encouraged to continue writing and nominating articles at this point. I just want to encourage everyone to take some time and help out others, which was one of the original purposes of this project. Additionally, the more reviewing that we all participate in, the more articles we can see promoted before the end of the month. Anything promoted after the end of May will still count as being part of the barn-burner, but it would be cool to get as much through as we can before then.

We have a list of current nominations for handy reference. If you feel inclined, find some that tickle your fancy and go nuts. Thanks again for all of your hard work. Cheers. Menkooroo 06:58, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Did Dan Wallace and Jason Fry imply species homeworlds through the naming of planets?
Hello, I was told that you could help me with this. I am nominating the Gaxxan brain-slug and someone told me that the Gaxxa article atated that the Gaxxan brain-slug was from Gaxxa. I was told by that the authors of The Essential Atlas "stated their intention to create homeworlds for various unplaced species, based on the implied context of their names". However, Jinzler was not sure if this was true and did not know where to find this information. I was hoping that you could resolve this question. Thank you and good day.-- Exiled Jedi   (Greetings)  14:07, May 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, EJ. That is indeed the case. Check out notes 1 and 2 on the article Guudria of an example of how we've handled this before. Hope this helps! ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 15:11, May 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Um... You gave me a redlink. Please reply with the correct article.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  15:35, May 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Whoops; my N key seems to be sticking. That should read Guudrian. ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 15:47, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

CAnom
you have an objection on my CAnom Merumeru's battle staff which I have addressed I was wondering if there is anything more you would like me to do before you support thanks GTQ ( Problems? ) 23:23, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

R3
The CWAlol update is taken care of. :) Just letting you know, per your objection.  JangFett  (Talk) 03:15, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Crab-stuffed creampuff
Would you mind taking a look at your objection to that article? Cheers, 1358  (Talk)  18:12, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Wurokkk
Wurokkk has been moved to GAN, so you may want to re-support or review it again. Thanks. :) MasterFred (Whatever) 14:04, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Mordageen facial hair
When you put it like that, I see your point. I'll go ahead and revert my edit if it hasn't already been done.  Ruthless Xero (Comment) 02:21, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Insider Articles
Hey Bob, regarding Republic HoloNet News Core Edition 15:01:03, that article is actually in Star Wars Insider 72. Star Wars Insider 75 actually contains Republic HoloNet News Core Edition 15:3:02. 15:01:03 contains a report by the Troig AndroosinLiann. A quote from the article: ''The Jedi council has traditionally avoided public accolades, but as the war progresses, participation in such recognition has become increasingly common. Media analysts postulate this is a deliberate attempt by the Jedi to build public opinion during the trying times of galactic conflict. "It sounds absurd, sure, but you can't deny that the Jedi are getting more and more coverage in the holomedia," says AndroosinLiann, host of the popular Eriadu talk show Essene. "Maybe it's the Republic. Maybe it's the Council. It's as if someone is looking for a poster boy, and I don't think you can do much better than Skywalker."'' So the article does not mention Troigs directly, but rather, a member of the species.

Regarding Insider 63, I can't find anything at the moment. I wanted to get back to you as quickly as possible, so that meant forgoing 63 for the time being. I will continue to look, however, and let you know what I find.&mdash; Axinal  Convocation Chamber 22:51, June 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * !Derp Sorry for forgetting the page number. That reference in Insider 72 is on page 60. I also went ahead and completed the crossword in Insider 63 to see if there may have been any other references to Troigs, but found none, so it seems that mention in the glossary&mdash;on page 5, by the way&mdash;is the only one. The crossword is on 92-93, for what it's worth. Hope this helps, and please don't hesitate to ask if you need anything more. Cheers!&mdash; Axinal  Convocation Chamber 20:58, June 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * A second !Derp and apology for breaking the rules of your talk page header and fragmenting this discussion :D. I'll try to keep it on the same page next time.&mdash; Axinal  Convocation Chamber 21:06, June 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * As far as I can tell, Troigs are not mentioned anywhere in the puzzle, directly or indirectly, as an answer or a clue. The only mention is in the glossary on page 5. It seems to me that the person who wrote that was just thinking that having two brains that can think simultaneously would be suitable for a puzzle of that sort, but I can't know for sure. One of the clues is something about the French word for spring&hellip;maybe having a second head that could speak a second language would be useful? Any theory as to why Troigs are mentioned is speculation as far as I'm concerned.&mdash; Axinal  Convocation Chamber 02:19, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

SWGB strategy guide

 * Do you happen to have this resource? If so, would you be willing to look something up for me? Thanks. Atarumaster88  Jedi_Order.svg ( Talk page ) 23:54, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * I've got a few strategy guides, so I'd be happy to look something up for you. What's SWGB though? ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 00:07, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds. I'm curious to see if the Glurrg is mentioned, and if there's any text in the guide unique to that source. :) Atarumaster88  Jedi_Order.svg ( Talk page ) 00:10, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Gotcha! There's no mention of "glurrgs", but it does talk about "Gungan workers" in the various strategies for the Gungan missions. I'd say it maybe warrants an indirect mention only template, but nothing more than that. ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 00:30, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks much! Atarumaster88  Jedi_Order.svg ( Talk page ) 02:47, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

Thunderbird
Hey Bob, I think something has also flown away :).&mdash; TK-999  ( Rise of the Empire ) 13:47, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Those dang EC tags; always fluttering about when you need them! ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 15:54, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Language infobox
Hey Bob, I was thinking over the language infobox, and came up with what I think is a decent idea, based on Wikipedia's infobox, as well as other infoboxes on this site. I just wanted to run it by you to see what you think of it. If you think it's a good idea, I might go ahead and create it. :P


 * image=obvious
 * name=obvious
 * species=the primary species that speak(s) the language (would obviously be "various" for languages like Basic)
 * planet=the primary planet(s) on which the language is spoken (ditto as above)
 * script=the writing system(s) used by the language; for example, Aurebesh for Basic. This would be unnecessary for languages like Ewokese.
 * dialects=this is a possibility; I can see it for languages like Basic, where the way the language is spoken varies greatly depending on whether the speaker is a Gungan, a Yoda species, a Human, etc, but it may be unnecessary.
 * characteristics=another possibility, if the language has a unique sound (such as the "warbling" produced by the Nosaurian language)
 * related=related languages, another possibility; in a real-life language, this would correlate with the language family, but since the languages of Star Wars are obviously much less developed, I was thinking adding something like Old Galactic Standard for Basic.
 * eras=obvious

What do you think? Thanks for your input!&mdash; Axinal  Convocation Chamber 00:19, June 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think this looks pretty good! There are a few fields I wonder about, though:
 * species=What about languages spoken by a particular culture group rather than a species? This would be things like Old Corellian. Either this field would need to be phrased "speakers" rather than "species," or there would need to be a separate field for culture groups.
 * planet=Similarly, can you think of any examples of languages in SW that are only spoken among a certain segment of a planet? I'm not sure, but there are bound to be a couple.
 * script=Agreed, although I could see Ewokese listing "pictographs" here, since that is the written form of the language.
 * dialects=Agreed, but limited to named, canonical dialects. There are likely a few known, as you mentioned.
 * characteristics=I like it. For a lot of languages, we don't know much, but a lot of sources do say that a particular language involves certain kinds of sounds.
 * related=I like it. It's probably better to include too many fields than too few, so don't worry that a particular field may not be used much.
 * eras=I wonder if this is needed. We don't use eras for species and planets, which are thought to be "perpetual" for the most part. Do you think we need eras for languages, then?


 * Also, what do you think would be the image for most articles? An example of the written form of the language? An image of a speaker? I'm just wondering if the image field would be empty for most articles or not. I think it should there, regardless, though. ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 00:45, June 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, I think |speakers might be better than |species, and similarly, perhaps a |locale or |locations rather than a |planet. Regarding |eras, I thought this might be somewhat questionable. One might consider languages timeless, though languages here on Earth evolve much more rapidly than organisms&mdash;the English language is a mere 1500-1600 years old, while humans have obviously been around a lot longer than that. I thought it might be appropriate to show that languages like Old Galactic Standard are distinctly separate timewise from Galactic Basic Standard, but I suppose it probably doesn't make sense for most articles, so it's probably not necessary. As for the picture, articles like Huttese and Ewokese show the written form of the language, so that's what I had in mind for that field. Thanks again for your input! If you are okay with my new suggestions, I might get around to creating it within the next few days (I obviously wouldn't expect this to influence the result of your Troig language nomination). I'm a bit shaky on template creation, so I may ask you or, who has helped me with templates in the past, for some assistance.&mdash; Axinal  Convocation Chamber 01:35, June 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Great! I say go for it. Just don't expect me to be much help with the technical side of things... Xd might be better for that! :) ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 01:53, June 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey Bob, Xd has looked over the language infobox and told me it's all set to go, so I have created . I haven't tried it out yet, so I can't guarantee it will work properly, but Xd thinks it will. Thanks for your help!&mdash; Axinal  Convocation Chamber 01:16, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Awesome! I'll append it to the language articles I have nominated in short order and we can see how it looks. Thanks for following up on this. ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 02:40, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Enemy
Hey there! Jacen is still a "good guy," per se, in Tempest. He's the leader of the Galactic Alliance Guard, and the benevolent, if beleaguered, Cal Omas is still the Chief of State of the GFFA. So Orlopp is definitely a good guy, even if he works for secretly-Sith Jacen. In Inferno and Invincible, Jacen's the Chief of State and pretty much a bad guy, but the GFFA is still the legitimate government of the galaxy. The Jedi Order withdraws their support from Caedus and the GFFA in Inferno, but Orlopp, Tycho, Gavin Darklighter, Nek Bwu'atu, and every officer still working for the government is just doing their job. They're not bad guys. Does that make sense? Menkooroo 01:39, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Just doing my thing.
I agree with your way of sourcing, however when I'm linking userboxes I always link it to the actual color because its referring to characteristics of someone or something, I also do this if it's describing something/one in the article. As for double or triple linking, sometimes I just simply miss the other links. However thank you for the advice its always welcome. Darth Needham 21:29, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Vignettes in WEG material
Hey Bob; generally I consider all short stories and adventure scenarios to be "appearances", while everything else are "sources". This is because the short stories and RPG adventures are IU and the RPG scenarios generally have narrative sections detailing the action. If I use The DarkStryder Campaign as an example, there is one short story (The Saga Begins), and six RPG adventures (Omens, Artifact of Aaris, Death Is Remotely Possible, Shintel Downtime, Crisis and Traitor in our Midst''). If information is from any of these, then it would fall under the appearances section. Any other material in the book, which is generally GM information and background detail, would just be a source. It the case you mention, even if its only a page long and has a title, I would consider it an appearance and therefore worthy of a separate article. There are several of these in The DarkStryder Campaign as well&mdash;Spot Inspection for instance, which deals with an event from Akanseh's past as a torturer. I list it as a separate appearance since its a separate IU narrative work. Also helps to reference events better. Hope that helps :) - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 08:33, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yavin planets
Re your comments on the CAN for Dilonexa concerning the unidentified planets there and the Laboi one, you might want to check out the bunch of articles someone popped up for the conjectural Yavin moons. On the Yavin Prime page, they are even listed without sources cited. The only four individual articles that I could see that had materiel on their specifics were, of course, Yavin 4, Yavin 8, Yavin 13, and Yavin 22.  Gethralkin  Hyperwave 13:31, June 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * I took care of most of the moon articles. In addition to Yavin 4, Yavin 8, and Yavin 13, a few had a tidbit of unique information, like Yavin 7 and Yavin 22. The others are conjecture as far as I can tell, so I've tagged them as such and marked all their sources as "Indirect mention only." I think this is the only way to treat such planets if we're going to keep them around. What do you think? ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 17:05, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Archiving Conundrum
Hiya, Bob. With the Atlas info, the Dilonexa articles are going to the GAN page (God help us all), but first they must be archived so they'll be out of people's hair while I write them out. Since 21/22 are blank, I thought it would be best to just archive Dilonexa I's nom and link to that on each article's talk pages. This would also keep the CAN nom history from having 22 straight failures, of which 21 would be, again, blank. However, I need an EC to OK this before I do it because it's unorthodox, so what do you think of it? NaruHina Talk  01:51, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm. That is a strange case. My inclination is that all of them should be archived, even if that results in 20+ failures. If you want a second opinion, please feel free to ask; I won't be offended. :) ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 03:29, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, they all have to be archived. Menkooroo 03:55, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Alright. If you say so. I think I'll link to the Dilonexa I archive in each though, so they'll be relevant. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 20:19, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * As long as you link to the proper archive, too, even if it is empty. Menkooroo 23:56, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

template usage
Okay, now I'm confused. I always thought that 1st was used per your explanation, that is until NaruHina explained otherwise. This is why I have not been adding the template as of late to single mention/appearance article subjects.  Gethralkin  Hyperwave 02:32, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think Naru is going against site consensus with that, although I could be mistaken. A quick random search of our CAs shows examples to support using the templates (Alara, Cloud City chief engineer, Tass root, Clone Wars Painting (Grievous), Question of Master Jrul) and not using them (Main administration building (Eastern Enrichment Zone), Prime Oligarch). Based on my completely unscientific sample, the "use them" camp seems to be in the majority, but this may be something there is no consensus on. My own thought is that using them is a good habit, since if a later source comes along, the work will already be done of identifying the first appearance or mention; at any rate, having the templates doesn't hurt any one. But perhaps a SH is in order? ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 02:39, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Droid turret image Edit
Droid turret image Edit Thanx fpr comment about removing Hans Solo and reverting. I am agreed with your arguments, and made another hi-rez version of photo, but with photoshop removal of Solo and placing generic Stormtroper to show size of turret. I'll do the same with other my screenshots from Super Star Wars. I wil not remove only Like from Jawenko and Mutant Womp Rat screens, because player can play only as Luke at these levels.