Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations



This page is for the nomination of "comprehensive articles". For a list of "comprehensive articles", see Category:Wookieepedia comprehensive articles.


 * Comprehensive article nominations history
 * Comprehensive article nominations archiving checklist

What is a "comprehensive article?"

A "comprehensive article" is an article that contains all information regarding the topic. Often, "comprehensive articles" cannot reach Featured or Good Article status due to their limited content. This process is intended to recognize articles that contain all relevant canon information, yet are still under the 250 word limit required for a Good Article. The purpose of this is twofold&mdash;firstly, to help users distinguish what is a stub, and what is merely a short article with no further relevant material to be added, and, more importantly, to highlight for the reader when they are reading something that has been judged definitely "comprehensive"&mdash;that is, a guarantee to the reader that whatever they are reading contains the sum total of all available content.

Nominations and promotions of the Comprehensive article process are overseen by a collective of users known as the "EduCorps," which is made up of the Inquisitorius, the AgriCorps, and various other experienced users who are considered qualified to adequately judge the nominated material.

Lucasfilm Ltd. and its many licensees continue to expand the Star Wars universe. Since new information might become available, it may be necessary to revoke a "comprehensive article's" status. A forum will be used to nominate articles that have fallen out-of-date. Members of the EduCorps will then post a warning template on that page, and a grace period of one week will be instituted in which the article can be improved. If there is a significant amount of new information, it is likely that once updated, the article will become eligible for Good article status, and thereby ineligible for Comprehensive article status.

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An article must&hellip;


 * 1) &hellip;be well-written and detailed.
 * 2) &hellip;be unbiased, non-point of view.
 * 3) &hellip;be sourced with all available sources and appearances.
 * 4) &hellip;follow the Manual of Style, Layout Guide, and all other policies on Wookieepedia. This is, of course, within reason. If a topic only has a very limited degree of content that cannot be divided up into the relevant article sections, it is not required that it follow the Layout Guide precisely. This is to be judged on a case-by-case basis.
 * 5) &hellip;following the review process, be stable, i.e., does not change significantly from day to day and is not the subject of ongoing edit wars. This does not apply to vandalism and protection or semi-protection as a result of vandalism.
 * 6) &hellip;not be tagged with any sort of improvement tags (i.e. more sources, expand, etc).
 * 7) &hellip;have no redlinks.
 * 8) &hellip;have all relevant canon information presented.
 * 9) &hellip;be completely referenced for all available material and sources. See Sourcing for more information. While this is not required for an article possessing a singular source, it is encouraged, as it provides both uniformity and a good infrastructure should the topic be referenced in any future materials.
 * 10) &hellip;have all quotes and images sourced.
 * 11) &hellip;provide at least one relevant quote on the article if available.
 * 12) &hellip;include a "Behind the scenes" section for in-universe articles.
 * 13) &hellip;counting the introduction, the article body, and "Behind the scenes" material, must not exceed 250 words in length (not including captions, quotes, or headers, etc). Any articles exceeding the limit should be taken to the Good article nominations page for consideration.

How to nominate:


 * 1) First, nominate an article you find is worthy of comprehensive status, putting it at the bottom of the list below. Nominated articles must meet all thirteen requirements stated above.
 * 2) Add CAnom at the top of the article you are nominating.
 * 3) Be sure to place sign in the "Nominated by" line when the nomination is posted for voting.
 * 4) Others will object to the nomination if they disagree that the article is good enough; they will then supply reasons for doing so, and ways to improve the article in accordance with the established rules.
 * 5) Nominators and supporters will adjust the article until the objectors (with reasonable objections) are satisfied. Objectors may also make alterations&mdash;if there is any reason for contention on a given point, it should be settled in a civil manner in the nomination field itself.
 * 6) Users may not vote on their own articles.
 * 7) There is no limit to the amount of nominations a given user can submit at any given time.

How to vote:


 * 1) Before doing anything, be sure to read the article completely, keeping a sharp eye out for mistakes.
 * 2) Afterward, compare the article to the criteria listed above, and then either support or object the article's nomination.
 * 3) *If you object, please supply concrete reasons for doing so, and how it can be improved.
 * 4) As stated above, any objections will be looked upon by the nominator, supporters, and anyone willing to improve the article, and action will be taken to please the objectors. Do not strike other users' objections; it is up to the objector to review the changes and strike if they are satisfied.
 * 5) There are several ways in which an article can receive the required number of votes. Within a 48-hour period of nomination, only EduCorps votes will count towards the total, although anyone may choose to vote in that window. If two members of the EduCorps support a nomination in that window, and there are no outstanding objections, the article can be considered a "Comprehensive article" and be tagged with the template 48 hours after the initial nomination.  The talk page will also be tagged with the CA template. When the 48 hours are up, any user's votes will contribute towards the total. If one EduCorps member has voted for an article after a week, three regular votes will be required. After the 48 hour period, an article can still also pass with just two EduCorps votes.
 * 6) Once a nomination is successful, it will be placed on the Comprehensive article list. Instructions on how to archive nominations, successful or otherwise, can be found here. Anyone can archive a nomination&mdash;just make sure it has the correct number of votes, has been nominated for at least a week (or 48 hours if there are two EC votes), and that there are absolutely no outstanding objections. If you are not sure how to do this, just ask, and someone will likely be more than willing to help you. Also, if you think you can slip one past us, think again&mdash;someone is always watching you.

All nominations will be considered idle and are subject to instantaneous removal by EduCorps members if objections are not addressed, or at least not answered, after a period of 2 weeks.

Mazara

 * Nominated by:  Holocron Greatholocron.jpg (Complain) 04:04, November 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: A minor character. She was only in the book for a few pages anyway.'''

(0 ECs/3 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) Yeah! Menkooroo 13:43, November 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2)  OLIOSTER  (talk) 19:36, November 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) Darth Morrt 15:59, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Object
 * Hey there! Is there any more info from the book you can give about the character? Her mentions an article she wrote that got her fired from her job, and the fact that she staged small rallies.
 * Fixed.  Holocron Greatholocron.jpg (Complain) 21:40, November 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Good show. Can you fix up the second sentence, though? Right now it looks like Blackwater Systems was breaking Falleen's laws against the wishes of Mazara's superiors.
 * Fixed. Serves me right for trying to fix an article at 7 am.  Holocron Greatholocron.jpg (Complain) 06:51, November 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Can you give any more info on when Obi and Ani hooked up with her? Where was it, what was she doing?
 * Fixed. Funny how you forget these things until someone else points them out.  Holocron Greatholocron.jpg (Complain) 21:40, November 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Looking at her CUSWE entry, it seems like there's enough info for a personality and traits section.
 * Done. I have a message on the page you linked to for the CSWE. Thanks.  Holocron Greatholocron.jpg (Complain) 21:40, November 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you know if she has an entry in The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia? If you have no idea, you can ask here. Menkooroo 14:41, November 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Good work! Just make a note here when you get a response on the CSWE entry. Menkooroo 09:57, November 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks like you got a response. The CSWE (and probably the Jedi Apprentice book too?) indicate that she protested the working and living conditions that resulted from overdevelopment in Falleen's capital city. This should be in the article, either in the bio or in p & t, wherever you think it would fit best. Also --- does she live in the capital city? The article just says right now that she lives on Falleen. Menkooroo 08:41, November 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Added the new information to the article. The book didn't directly mention that she was protesting against the treatment of workers, so it did help.  Holocron Greatholocron.jpg (Complain) 11:43, November 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * There are better ways to source than just sticking every reference at the end of the paragraph --- that is to say, the article should indicate precisely what information comes from where. Something like: "Mazara then became the leader of a rebel group of Falleen attempting to stop large corporations from polluting their homeworld[1] and protest the terrible conditions that workers endured due to the overdevelopment of the city.[2] She was targeted for assassination by Blackwater Systems for leading protests against their business practices.[1]" Make sense? Also, never put a space between references (so, [1][2] rather than [1] [2]).
 * If all of the information in the second paragraph is in the book, then the extra reference ([2]) at the end of the paragraph isn't necessary.
 * "Personality and traits" has two [1]'s in a row.
 * Fixed.  Holocron Greatholocron.jpg (Complain) 13:34, November 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * I jettisoned the [2] from the second paragraph entirely, as all that info was there, from the book itself, before you got the CSWE entry. Menkooroo 13:43, November 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * One more, actually. Does she have any other lines that would make an appropriate quote for the personality and traits section? Menkooroo 10:01, November 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Done.  Holocron Greatholocron.jpg <font color="#208090">(Complain) 21:55, November 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * A new one: An article should be created for Falleen's capital city. Does the book give it a name? If not, Falleen's capital city or something would be OK. Just remember to stick Template:Conjecture at the top of the article. Menkooroo 12:21, November 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. <font color="#208090"> Holocron Greatholocron.jpg <font color="#208090">(Complain) 13:34, November 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * It now has a redlink to fill. --Eyrezer 09:22, December 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * What do you suggest it should be linked to? The only details given on her employers were that they fired her for writing articles they didn't agree with. <font color="#208090"> Holocron Greatholocron.jpg <font color="#208090">(Complain) 14:01, December 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * I haven't read this book, but maybe the assassination attempt can also have its own article. What do you think? Darth Morrt 08:53, December 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Given its insignificance, I don't think so. There would barely be enough for two or three sentences.If you give that an article you would have to start giving other tiny events articles. <font color="#208090"> Holocron Greatholocron.jpg <font color="#208090">(Complain) 14:01, December 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Cav:
 * Articles are needed for the rebel group, and the assassination attempt.
 * The editor redlink needs to be filled.
 * More context on Kenobi and Skywalker's involvement on Falleen is needed. Why were they hunting Omega? What was the link between Omega and Blackwater? - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 17:47, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Comments

Cloud City chief engineer

 * Nominated by: Darth Morrt 13:58, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Another SWM nom. Verrrry minor character.

(1 ECs/1 Users/2 Total)
Support
 * 1) Looks verrrry nice. ~ SavageBob 06:03, November 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Menkooroo 04:33, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) This article does not need to be called "Unidentified." Graestan ( Talk ) 23:11, December 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) *I was assuming that Bossk was impersonating an actual chief engineer rather than simply calling himself by that title. In other words, if Bossk is trying to pass himself off as Bob Jenkins, chief engineer, the "unidentified" seems appropriate. However, if he's simply trying to pass himself off as any ol' chief engineer, I agree, this article should be renamed. ~ SavageBob 23:57, December 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) **This article describes the actual person, not his job/title. From the scenario: "Bossk sabotaged some vital equipment, then hacked into the city's computer and sent an urgent message to Lando under the guise of the city's Chief Engineer." Darth Morrt 01:22, December 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) ***There weren't more than two in canon so far, so what is the point of the Unidentified? Graestan ( Talk ) 17:55, January 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * 5) ****If this had more votes and was ready to be archived except my objection, I'd be a little more likely to exercise lenience, but I really don't see the point of calling him "Unidentified" when the category on the CA page can handle it well enough. Graestan ( Talk ) 18:00, January 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * 6) *****I prefer to call 'Unidentified' what is unidentifed, but I've moved it to Cloud City chief engineer. Darth Morrt 00:21, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * The opening sentence of the article probably shouldn't be sourced to what is currently reference [1]. "In 1 ABY" should, yeah, but the opening sentence should be sourced to Sore Loser's Revenge.
 * Does the chief engineer actually appear in Sore Loser's Revenge? The article makes it seem like he doesn't. If it's just Bossk impersonating him, then would be correct.
 * Remember to link to Rebellion era in the infobox, not just Rebellion.
 * The article seems to have quite a bit of extraneous info. It reads more like an article about Ambush in Cloud City than it does an article about the Chief Engineer. Is there anything you can trim? Aaaand is the sentence in "Behind the scenes" about the alternate non-canon ending relevant to the Chief Engineer? Menkooroo 03:25, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * All is addressed. Darth Morrt 03:53, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Excellent! One more, though: Since reference [1] is specifically about the date, shouldn't a new reference that just references Lando Calrissian: Idiot's Array be used for the final "Calrissian survived" sentence? Menkooroo 04:09, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. Darth Morrt 04:16, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

Comments
 * Graestan, could you please elaborate on your objection? ~ SavageBob 16:22, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Project X271

 * Nominated by: Darth Morrt 15:00, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Bolvan-related nomination.

(0 ECs/1 Users/1 Total)
Support
 * 1) Menkooroo 04:58, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Object
 * Does the source actually say that it's stored aboard Vader's Star Destroyer? The leading quote makes it sound like they'd actually have to retrieve it from the Outer Rim. Menkooroo 15:24, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * No it doesn't say that it was stored. In the Fact Files, Bolvan suggested "that the planet should be utterly cleansed using experimental ordinance [sic] from Project X271". The sentences about deployable ordnance and storing it on the Destroyer is actually conjectural. They didn't have much time, and Bolvan wanted to use this weapon, so I think the weapon was deployable and they have it at hand. Darth Morrt 16:48, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * We can't put speculation into articles. Anything conjectural has gotta go. Menkooroo 17:37, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. Darth Morrt 17:52, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Comments

Trever Flume's mother

 * Nominated by: NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 09:41, November 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Could it be...a...BIOGRAPHY?!

(1 ECs/3 Users/4 Total)
Support
 * 1)  SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 09:11, November 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2)  OLIOSTER  (talk) 19:24, November 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) Darth Morrt 01:26, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4)  Master Jonathan New Jedi Order.svg ( Jedi Council Chambers ) 03:35, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) O_o A Blasphemous Biography!
 * 2) * Watch your categorisation. She can be further subcategorised in unidentified individuals, and soldiers is for unit types. May I suggest looking into Category:Galactic Republic military personnel instead? SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 10:30, November 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) **Good catch. Done. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 04:53, November 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) ***Went one further, as she's a captain. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 09:11, November 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) Morrt
 * 6) * Are you sure that "early in the war" can be interpreted as 22-21 BBY? Why not just 22 or 22-20?
 * 7) **The war was only lasted until 19 BBY. Circa one year is close enough to "early." Watch her be in TCW. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 12:48, December 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 8) * You can go further in the categories to Category:Republic Navy officers, because she is surely not an army captain, but a navy captain. Darth Morrt 10:42, December 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * 9) **What's your logic there? NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 12:48, December 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 10) ***I've tried to say that the army captains are clones, so she must be a navy captain. But I've realized just now that not every army personnel are clones, like Ozzel in the TCW comic. But this leads to an other objection: her affiliation should be changed to Republic Military, because we don't know whether she serves the GAR or the Navy. Darth Morrt 17:28, December 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11) ****Good catch. I'd always assumed the GAR was the catch-all armed forces. Didn't know they culled Ozzel into TCW either...shame. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 00:40, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * 12) Despite how articles on unidentified characters have traditionally been done, there's been a recent push to jettison uses of "This" in them. I think the logic is that it seems like an OOU description. How do you feel about changing both instances of "this" to "a" ? Menkooroo 03:35, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * 13) *I think that's a stupid thing to regulate. In my mind it doesn't break the fourth wall in any way. If you think what an IU character would write in this situation, there is no way they would put "a Rebel Pilot fought in the First Galactic Civil War" because it disconnects the article from the character in question. On that note, and for expediency, I will change it if you really want me too but I would not it would take revision I'd prefer not to do right now (busy, busy) as we cant have "A soldier, a Human female..." for obvious reasons. If we could possibly use these as some kind of cut off point for this regulation, should it become precedent, I would appreciate it astronomically. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 23:39, January 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * 14) From the Council Chambers:
 * 15) * "the Confederacy of Independent Systems's secession from the Galactic Republic plunged the galaxy into the Clone Wars between the militant Separatists and the government ." This last bit seems redundant to the first part of what I quoted. Can it be removed?
 * 16) *Otherwise, nice job.  Master Jonathan New Jedi Order.svg ( Jedi Council Chambers ) 19:06, January 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * 17) **Changed. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 23:39, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Comments

Jizz-wail

 * Nominated by: NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 06:29, December 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: A truly integral part of the Star Wars mythos. To make fun of it is to make fun of the Modal Nodes themselves.

(1 ECs/1 Users/2 Total)
Support
 * 1) *snicker* ~ SavageBob 21:40, December 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Darth Morrt 01:29, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Object
 * BTS? ~ SavageBob 06:31, December 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, forgot to save it. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 06:54, December 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * OK! Now you need to source the fact that the music in ANH is jizz, though, since that's not evident from the film itself. ~ SavageBob 07:37, December 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 23:54, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe it should be mentioned somewhere that a jizz-wailer not necessary plays jizz-wail. Darth Morrt 11:50, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

Unidentified Gungan master songwriter

 * Nominated by: NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 09:33, December 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: I'd give 9 to 10 he'd shoot Justin Bieber

(1 ECs/2 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) Sneaky :).  OLIOSTER  (talk) 23:46, December 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Darth Morrt 11:53, December 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) ~ SavageBob 21:45, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Object
 * Two things: First, I'm a bit wary of the word "penned." I know you're trying for a synonym of "wrote," but "penned" indicates pen to paper, which we can't assume in Star Wars. Perhaps "composed"? Second, I'm not sure what's meant by "which was available in 1.5 ABY." Available for purchase? Only one copy available? Multiple copies available? Just a bit more explanation, and it's good. :) ~ SavageBob 21:44, December 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 00:46, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Better! :) But is there only one copy of the painting, or can multiple people purchase it and display it simultaneously? ~ SavageBob 02:52, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * The painting is given out freely to any player who asks for it in Mos Eisley, so anyone can get it.  OLIOSTER  (talk) 19:51, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * I've tried to clarify this; please revert if it's no longer correct. ~ SavageBob 21:45, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * See my objection to Trevor Flume's mother. How do you feel about changing up the "this" ? Menkooroo 05:09, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Comments

Carving the Republic: The Real Story of Count Dooku

 * Nominated by: NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 09:33, December 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: 1

(2 ECs/1 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) ~ SavageBob 17:13, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2)  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 18:15, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) Darth Morrt 00:02, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Jujiggum
 * 2) * Please add the IU media infobox as per precedent
 * 3) * The first sentence is grammatically incorrect: you technically imply that the Jedi Order was written by Andevor Javin etc.
 * 4) * Also, in the infobox, please add an image of Count Dooku per same precedents as mentioned above.
 * 5) * Jonjedigrandmaster ( Talk ) 17:52, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * 6) **Done. On this one and the others. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 01:24, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

Comments
 * I am not sure you can state that this was the best-selling book of the year. The New Your Times' releases a list every week. Darth Morrt 02:20, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

Warm Thoughts for Invertebrates

 * Nominated by: NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 09:33, December 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: 3

(2 ECs/3 Users/5 Total)
Support
 * 1) I read through it, and I'll be honest, I see nothing amiss. I'm just awed that a mere mention from some side bar can even be expanded to that length, and to ask for further elaboration would just be silly.   That and, who wouldn't have warm thoughts for invertebrates?  I know I appreciate our insect overlords.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 08:45, December 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) One thing is for certain: there is no stopping them; the ants will soon be here. And I for one welcome our new insect overlords. Menkooroo 01:55, December 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) ~ SavageBob 17:13, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4)  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 18:15, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * 5) Darth Morrt 00:07, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Please add the IU media infobox.  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 17:54, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) The source says "best-selling reading". It doesn't give the timespan. I think it is not surely third best-selling book of the year. I would say "the third best-selling in this year." The New York Times, as a real-world parallel, publics a list for a week, not for a year. What do you think? Darth Morrt 19:02, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) *Hastening the process of nomination, I ask the supporters to note, if my logic is failing here, and I will strike my objection. This book and actually every other could be best-selling books of the week too. We don't know whether the Closer Look is a weekly, monthly or a yearly feature of HoloNet News. Darth Morrt 19:33, January 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) **Your objection makes sense. Changed. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 23:54, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Comments

Kholemi Elaru

 * Nominated by: NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 09:33, December 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: 4

(2 ECs/1 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) ~ SavageBob 17:14, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2)  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 18:16, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) Darth Morrt 00:08, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Same as above: IU media infobox please.  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 17:56, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Comments

Night Mynock

 * Nominated by: NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 09:33, December 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: 5

(2 ECs/1 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) ~ SavageBob 17:14, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2)  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 18:17, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) Darth Morrt 00:10, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Please add an IU media infobox.  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 17:56, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Comments

X-1 (assassin)

 * Nominated by: Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 01:07, December 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Number one!

(0 ECs/0 Users/0 Total)
Support

Object
 * Hey there! Since the article has an intro, keep in mind that the body operates entirely independent of the intro --- that is, everything that's been established in the intro needs to also be established in the body. As such, it's usually a good idea to begin the body similar to the intro, with something like "X-1 was an assassin..." Right now, the body starts out by talking about Rezi Soresh, and it's kind of like "Wait, who?" The body also doesn't mention that X-1 was created by Soresh, just that he was used by him.
 * Does he die? "Dispatched with a vibroblade" makes it seem like he does. Menkooroo 16:17, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Comments For all clones of Project Omega: Soresh didn't train them to hunt Skywalker. X-7 serves him seven years before the Death Star blows up. Nahdar Vebb 21:34, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

X-2

 * Nominated by: Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 01:07, December 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Number two!

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X-3

 * Nominated by: Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 01:07, December 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Number three!

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X-4

 * Nominated by: Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 01:07, December 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Number four!

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X-5

 * Nominated by: Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 01:07, December 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Number five!

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X-6

 * Nominated by: Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 01:07, December 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Number six! Not doing X-7 cause I'm lazy.

(0 ECs/0 Users/0 Total)
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Alara

 * Nominated by: Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 09:55, December 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Starting early

(1 ECs/1 Users/2 Total)
Support
 * 1) Very nice.&mdash;  03:04, December 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Darth Morrt 16:37, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Object
 * Don't you hear them callin' you?
 * Could you cite the article, my man? Other than that, nice job.&mdash; 03:04, December 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * One more thing&hellip; could you correct the BTS info to reflect the book's release date next year? Maybe also state that she was in those previews.&mdash; 03:10, December 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Got it, all taken care of. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 06:29, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

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 * There's really no spoiler here. If you read the excerpt you'll see, she's like a one liner in a long slew of murders we already know happen. So yeah. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 09:55, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

PS-29-2

 * Nominated by: Hanzo Hasashi 04:59, December 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Project for the holidays.

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Support
 * 1) Menkooroo 16:20, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) Darth Morrt 04:42, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) ~ SavageBob 19:06, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

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 * What about adding Imperial Navy to his affiliations? Maybe you could mention that he got his nickname after a creature that attach itself to starships, or something like this. Darth Morrt 01:57, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Added Imperial Navy. And it is never stated that he was named Mynock after those creatures, although that is the only logical possibility. Would that count as speculation if I did add it? Hanzo Hasashi 04:22, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * IMO, you can reword it not be speculative, like: he is called Mynock, which is the name of a creature... But this is not a real objection, just an idea. Darth Morrt 05:09, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Can you add a reference that says all TIE pilots during the Imperial period were Human males? ~ SavageBob 16:59, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Human is sourced by the duck test, to be honest I don't know about whether that is confirmed by any source. What does the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia have to say? And the card says that he is male. Hanzo Hasashi 18:28, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Species unclear, no source ever stated that all the TIE fighter pilots were all human, and by the time of 7.5 ABY, there were Devaronian TIE pilots too. Hanzo Hasashi 04:39, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

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 * Unlike previous similar nominations, I have used the logic of the duck test to assume this character is a human. Hanzo Hasashi 16:07, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Unidentified Janguine species

 * Nominated by: Eyrezer 01:24, December 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:.

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 * 1) Easy read.  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 18:06, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) Full support; however, I'm not fond of that speculative clause in the BTS and you should probably say why 3PO's theory was groundless in the ref. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 02:46, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Darth Morrt 21:01, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Stick to your day job, Threepio. ~ SavageBob 18:07, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) Menkooroo 17:00, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

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 * 1) *<S>Shouldn't the Source section list only the title of the source, per LG? Or the {CSWECite} is an exception, like many other source templates?</S> Darth Morrt 02:02, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) **Yes, it is. 1358  <sup style="color:#336600;">(Talk)  18:46, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) *Sorry, but I remove my support. The AoC (chapter 8) states that the 3PO's idea "led nowhere." IMO it is not necessary groundless, just didn't bring the NR closer to the origin of the YV. The Janguine barbars could be the degraded descendants of an early YV scouting party. I know this is speculation, but neither of the sources state that the relation is groundless. Darth Morrt 04:23, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) *This one is not a real objection, but in case of novels, I prefer chapter numbers to page number, because the page numbers differ in various editions. What do you think? Darth Morrt 04:23, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Please remove the page numbers from the CSWECite templates in the Sources section. We don't state page numbers for other items in the sources section, either. Just leave the parameter blank. :-) 1358  <sup style="color:#336600;">(Talk)  18:46, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I added the page number for VP. Now only AoC is missing, and I will see what I can do with that one. However, my preference is always to go with more detailed references than less detailed. --Eyrezer 03:38, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Can you give a bit of background as to why 3PO's speculation was proved groundless? Other than that, looks good. ~ SavageBob 02:50, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. --Eyrezer 03:38, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * I feel like CSWE should only be listed once in the "Sources" section. Listing the same book twice sets a really bad precedent, where any article on a major subject like Obi-Wan Kenobi or Galactic Empire would have to list the CSWE dozens of times in the "Sources" section, as those subjects are mentioned in countless individual entries. It would also be like listing The Unknown Regions dozens of times in the "Sources" section of Unknown Regions, as Unknown Regions are mentioned in every section of the book. Both relevant CSWE entries for this article are referenced and appear in "Notes and references", so it's not like the article would be sacrificing any info, either. Or you could jettison the CSWEcite template and just use to note both entries. Either way, the current double-listing of CSWE just seems... wrong. Menkooroo 04:17, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * I took a stab at combining them into one, see if that works for you. Eyrezer, feel free to yell at me or change it to something else if you don't like that. :P  Master Jonathan New Jedi Order.svg ( Jedi Council Chambers ) 04:31, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's perfect. Whaddya think, Eyre? I'm not crazy for thinking that we shouldn't list the same source twice, am I? Menkooroo 05:06, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks fine to me. --Eyrezer 11:11, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hooray! I guess that takes care of Xd's objection too. Menkooroo 17:00, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

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Ai-Ari Kuldi

 * Nominated by: Jinzler 22:58, December 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: A Jedi

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 * 1) Well-done. Menkooroo 15:19, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) Darth Morrt 16:14, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) ~ SavageBob 16:57, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

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 * What about adding Republic Navy to the affiliations? Darth Morrt 02:43, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, this is something that we are unable to prove. Regarding the character's affiliation, the source merely describes Kuldi as a "Republic Jedi". In addition, whilst the source infers that the Fifth Fleet was a Republic unit, is does not explicitly state that, so there is no basis to assume that Kuldi was affiliated with the Republic navy. --Jinzler 18:40, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

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 * Does anything suggest that Ai-Ari's Fifth Fleet is not the same as the Open Cirkle's Fifth Fleet? The fleets and other large units have unique numbers. There shouldn't be two differnet Fifth Fleet in the Republic Navy. Darth Morrt 02:43, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Firstly, as I have stated above, we cannot be certain that the Fifth Fleet was a Republic unit. Regardless of that, while there is nothing to suggest that Kuldi's Fifth Fleet is not the same as the Fifth Fleet of the Open Circle Fleet, there is nothing to suggest that they are the same either. We therefore have no evidence to assume that they are the same and it is perfectly possible that there could be more than one Fifth Fleet within the Republic Navy, for example, hypothetically speaking, there could be a Fifth Fleet of the Open Triangle Fleet, or a Fifth Fleet of the Open Hexagon Fleet, or some other fleet name that includes the term "Fifth Fleet". Its not an assumption that I would be comfortable to make, given the evidence we have. --Jinzler 18:40, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Kuldi says that "You are on your own," so Kuldi is not with the independent Cularians and is not with the Seps either, because Kuldi is a "Republic Jedi". IMO, it is safe to assume that the Fifth Fleet is a Republic unit, because it is under the command of a "Republic Jedi". If we assume that the Fifth Fleet is a Republic unit, we should assume that it is identical to the Fifth Fleet of theOpen Circle Armada, because the numbered designations are unique. Designations such as Third Fleet, 23rd Battilion or 11st Hussar Regiment are unique in every real-world military. There cannot be such a thing like Fifth Fleet of the Open Triangle Fleet. It is also stated in the Guide to the Grand Army of the Republic, that "division number do not necessary correspond to actual army population. E. g., there are not 326 Star Corps before the 327th." There is only one Fifth Fleet in the Republic Navy and in the time of the Battle of Coruscant, it is part of the Open Circle Armada. If you disagree, I would like to hear the opinion of other users in the Senate Hall. Darth Morrt 07:55, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * That Kuldi is affiliated with the Republic is not under debate, so the fact that he says Cularin is on its own is irrelevant, and may not neccessarily have been stated in his capacity as Fifth Fleet commander, but in his capacity as a "Republic Jedi". The fact that he is a Republic Jedi also does not make the fleet part of the Republic Navy, as it is possible to describe Rahm Kota as a "Republic Jedi", yet the unit he commanded during the Clone Wars was not part of the Republic Navy, so that Kuldi was a "Republic Jedi" is not enough evidence to assume that the Fifth Fleet was part of the Republic. In addition you seem have to misinterpreted my argument regarding the Fifth Fleet, so perhaps I wasn't clear enough. The Fifth Fleet of the Open Circle Fleet is only the fifth part of the Open Circle Fleet and as it is reasonably possible that the Republic had other fleets of similar size to the Open Circle Fleet, and that such fleets might have "Fifth Fleets" of their own. That is of course speculation, but assuming that the fleet referred to the the source is the Fifth Fleet of the Open Circle is equally speculative and breeches Attribution. If a source does not state something, we cannot assume it, unless the assumption meets the much cited "duck test", which I do not believe this does. --Jinzler 13:43, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, the mention of Kota's militia convinced me that Kuldi's Fifth Fleet is maybe not the Republic's Fifth Fleet, altough IMO the author's intention was reference to the Cross-section book's Fifth Fleet in the Open Circle. It is irrelevant now, but I still maintain that there isn't another Fifth Fleet in the Republic. The first source of the Fifth Fleet is the ROTS Cross-section, which mentiones "Fifth Fleet in the Open Circle armada". It is not the fifth part of the fleet, but a unique unit of the Navy just like the 327th Star Corps is a unique unit of the GAR. E. g., if the 327th Star Corps is part of the Second sector army, than there could not be another 327th Star Corps in the Third sector army. The hundreds of fleets of the Republic have all a unique designation (Fifth, Sixth, Ninetieth, etc.) They are presumably parts of larger Fleet groups, such as the Open Circle, but they still have teir own unique designation, such as Fifth Fleet. But you have my support now. Darth Morrt 16:14, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * This was a difficult issue to resolve, due to the vagueness of the original source, and I gave full consideration to the evidence and points you raised. I would therefore like to thank you for the professionality and diligence you demonstrated in this discussion. --Jinzler 17:23, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

AF-119

 * Nominated by: Hanzo Hasashi 21:49, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:

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 * ~ SavageBob 18:53, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Darth Morrt 00:40, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

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 * I think I may have overlooked this on your previous stormtrooper entries, but can you source the species and gender? I think the duck test is fine in these cases, but only with a source that says that Imperial-era stormtroopers are human and male. ~ SavageBob 16:48, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * The duck test was not used to source his gender, his Scum and Villainy Quick Draw card sources it. Will source the species though. Hanzo Hasashi 18:28, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * CSWE sourcing for species, using the entry you gave for TK-420's nomination. Did I get the entry title right though? I wrote it was "Stormtrooper." Hanzo Hasashi 18:42, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * That's the one. Thanks! ~ SavageBob 18:53, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

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 * Unlike previous stormtrooper nominations, I have used the logic of the duck test to assume this character is a human. Hanzo Hasashi 16:07, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Strangely, this article, along with a couple of my other personal projects, has two CUSWE entries. Hanzo Hasashi 19:26, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

NT-757

 * Nominated by: Hanzo Hasashi 01:40, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Fearless soldier.

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NT-311

 * Nominated by: Hanzo Hasashi 01:40, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Squad point man.

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RGA-972

 * Nominated by: Hanzo Hasashi 01:40, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Assault specialist.

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Anti-Alien League

 * Nominated by:  Darth Karika  will destroy your planet! 21:57, January 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Something different for a change.

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 * Also, guest nom for WP:KOTOR.  Darth Karika  will destroy your planet! 21:58, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Dathomir Prison

 * Nominated by:  OLIOSTER  (talk) 08:10, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: More paintings from Olioster.

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 * 1) Looked it over, made a minor alteration to the wording in the Bts. Looks solid.  And nice prison design.  I may borrow it.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 08:16, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) Looks good, although a bit rough brushing. –Tm_T (Talk) 10:23, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) - TK-299  (Click Here) Imperial_Emblem.svg 12:06, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

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