Talk:Eta-2 Actis-class interceptor

Use by Non-Jedi Pilots
Is the jedi interceptor used by clone pilots atall, or only jedi?
 * We haven't seen it used by Clone pilots yet. By the time the Eta-2 was in use, most Clone pilots were flying ARC starfighters.

It can only be used by Jedi. It is interesting how this ship is more agile and yet more heavily armed than an A-wing.


 * The official literature about this fighter is confusing and self contradictory. The ROTS ICS, as well as almost every other official source, makes this seem like a Jedi-exclusive fighter.  The ICS even goes so far as to say that the Eta-2 lacks many normal flight instruments, because the Jedi don't need them.  However, the ICS also says taht 192 Eta-2s are part of the NORMAL fighter complement of a Venator-class Star Destroyer.  We know that this is no mistake, because when the StarWars.com databank had a chance to clarify the Venator's fighter complement, it was the V-Wings, not the Eta-2s, which were said to be optional.  This has left the fans with no choice but to speculate and try to rationalize this contradictory information.  Some fans believe there might be a variant of the Eta-2 which might be designed for normal pilots.  Other fans believe that the clones, having peak human reflexes, are the only ones other than Jedi who can handle the Eta-2.  This is backed up by a passage in the AOTC novelization, in which Jango implies that he's not that far behind Jedi pilots (I can't confirm this since I don't have the book, I only heard this from someone else). JimRaynor55 19:58, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't Jedi be part of a normal Venator attack group anyway, thus the fighters? --Fade 20:04, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * The problem is that it has been established that there are only about 10,000 Jedi in the Republic. That means that a mere 53 Venators carry more Eta-2s than there are Jedi.  Just to show how many Venators could be out there, ROTS ICS states that each Venator carries 36 ARC-170s, and that the Open Circle Fleet alone has "thousands" of them.  Also, not all Jedi are pilots, further lowering the number of Eta-2s there could be if only Jedi could pilot them. JimRaynor55 20:09, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Ah. That's me out of ideas, then. Missed the 192 bit as well. Oops.--Fade 20:20, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * I briefly looked through Star Wars: The Ultimate Visual Guide at my campus bookstore today, and I've finally found an answer. On page 54, the book states that the Eta-2s used by Anakin and Obi-Wan had retrofitted controls that suited their Force powers. I think it's safe to assume that the other sensor and instrument-less Jedi interceptors were similarly modified, and that the standard Eta-2 found in large numbers aboard Venators still retains those systems. JimRaynor55 21:55, 24 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Um, I would dispute the 10,000 Jedi figure- where did you come up with that? First of all, we know there were only 200 on Coruscant right before the Battle of Geonosis- Mace even says "what Jedi we have left".  Unless 9,800 were away on missions (highly unlikely, given that Jedi spend most of their time at the Temple anyway) there's gotta be far less.  Not to mention that 10,000 generals is way too much... --Thetoastman 06:22, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Have you taken younglings into consideration? What about some Jedi who did not want to become Jedi Generals? Not all of them had to be ready for fighting. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 12:03, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I can confirm it, I do have the book and you are correct. user:Darth Vatrir
 * Please don't post in the middle of discussions. Also, please don't restart old discussions. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 21:42, 2 October 2006 (UTC)


 * It is not possible for these to be exclusively (or "almost exclusively," which is basically the same exact thing) used by the Jedi, since there are 192 of these fighters in the standard complements of Venator Star Destroyers, which were mass production warships. I already posted the solution to this problem in January (look above).  The Eta-2s flown by the Jedi have "retrofitted" controls, which is presumably the lack of sensors, flight instruments, etc. that ROTS ICS mentions.  Being retrofitted, they're not the same as the original, standard, Eta-2s, which presumably still have those systems. JimRaynor55 20:03, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I forgot about that. You're probably right. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:33, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * More likely is that they were used exclusively by Jedi during the war, and it was just Saxton who stuffed up with the numbers of fighters carried by the Venator's. Darth Windu
 * Canon is canon. They weren't exclusively used by Jedi. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 12:19, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I never said it wasn't canon, simply that it's ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as having Republic Gunships flying in space. Besides why would Clone pilots be flying Jedi Interceptors when they have perfectly good and expendable V-wings? Darth Windu
 * Why? Because they could. "Ridiculous" is your opinion; "canon" is the truth. Right now, you're trying to argue against canon with your opinion, which will get you nowhere. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 12:14, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Also because Eta-2s are faster and more agile than V-wings. And one single class of ship isn't really enough to cover all tactical advantages in space combat. For a simplified example, take Battlefront II: you've got Eta-2s and ARC-170s for dogfights, V-wings to take on the warships, and gunships to raid the flagship. Diversity's the key - \\Captain Kwenn// &mdash; Ahoy! 13:04, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Ancient Sith Fighters
I think the Sith Fighter has a similar appearance to the Eta-2. they both have similar canopy/cockpit hull areas, similar wings (though the Sith Fighter has larger wings), they both have twin ion engines, the Sith Fighter also looks like it might have somthing like vertical radiator panels. They are both small, fast, and agile. I beleive that at the very least, they bear a vague resemlance to each other.

70.109.226.209 21:54, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)


 * Seeing as the Sith Fighter was designed to look like the Jedi Interceptor it would. Jasca Ducato 19:01, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Everything always has an OOU answer, doesn't it? ;) Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:16, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Are you sure the Sith fighter was designed to look like the Intercepter? KOTOR came out in 2003, two years before Revenge of the Sith. But I remember when I first saw Revenge of the Sith, the first thing I thought when I saw Anakin and Obi-Wan's intercepters was "There flying Sith fighters!". 151.203.152.40 20:21, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Perhaps the Sith fighters were made from Jedi interceptor concept art. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:22, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe.. It would be cool if they were. 151.203.152.40 20:25, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, I think that is the case. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:48, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Well if anything I'd say that the Jedi starfighter looks like the Sith Infiltrator that Darth Maul used back in TPM - lalala_la
 * Barely, though. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 15:43, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Interceptor or Fighter?
In the databank it is referred as 'Jedi Fighter', yet here it is referred as 'Jedi Interceptor'... Which source refers to it as such? --Andrelvis 00:58, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * From Wikipedia: An interceptor aircraft (or simply interceptor) is a type of fighter aircraft designed specifically to intercept and destroy enemy aircraft, particularly bombers. So it's both&mdash;the terms are not mutually exclusive. – Aidje talk 02:09, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * On second thought, just take a look at our own interceptor article :-) – Aidje talk 02:10, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * It's more of an interceptor than a fighter. The Delta-7 starfighter was, at most, a fighter, but the Eta-2 was more of an interceptor, even though it could be considered a mixture of both a fighter and an interceptor. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 11:59, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Spoiler Warning?
Does this page really need a spoiler warning? There's really nothing in it that I would specifically label as a spoiler...at least in my opinion.--Knightfall 00:20, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree, it really does seem useless. But considering the craft is in Episode III, the spoiler warning should remain. Admiral J. Nebulax 00:21, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Oops, I thought that it was a warning. Oh well, it's gone anyway. Admiral J. Nebulax 00:25, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * It has been decided before (on Wookieepedia talk:Community Portal) that those general spoiler warnings are no longer needed, though we haven't finished going through and removing them all. As for the EP3 spoiler warning, they will all be removed on December 1 (1 month after DVD release), so there's not really much point adding it now. --Azizlight 00:29, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the information, Azizlight. Admiral J. Nebulax 20:36, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Astromech
I'm at a loss for how an astromech can fit into this thing. Obviously they do, but the Eta-2 looks like its body isn't tall enough. Like the astromech's feet ought to be sticking out of the bottom of the ship. 68.47.234.131 06:56, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
 * The astromech's feet do. If you look closely at some images, you'll see them sticking out. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 12:56, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Symbols
What are the symbols near the rear of the interceptor and on the ARK-170 starfighter and the Venorator class stardestroyer's wings and also the spider web-like symbol(that looks almost like the Empire and C.I.S. symbols)near ARTOO(or ARFOUR on Obi-Wans interceptor)?
 * Are you talking about the red and yellow circle? That's the insignia for the Open Circle Fleet. JimRaynor55 01:58, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
 * That's what he's talking about. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:17, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
 * For the "spider web-like symbol", that's the Republic Navy symbol&mdash;identical to the Imperial symbol. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]]

Vader's interceptor?
Anakin must have gotten a new starfighter, the back of the Invisible Hand broke off, including the hangar. And didn't the new Eta-2 have a wierd paints scheme, like dark green with red stripes or something? -Aiddat 02:40, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Anakin used a green and white one for his mission to Mustafar. That one was left behind and probably destroyed. As the armored Darth Vader, he flew a black one. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 02:42, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. I'll put that in. -Aiddat 02:49, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I thought it was already in... Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 02:50, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Clone Wars section
The Clone Wars section reads like an abbreviation of the section right above it. I don't see why we even need a Clone Wars section, as most of the information in the first section relates directly to the Clone Wars, anyway. Can someone nix that section and assimilate any nonredundant parts into the first section, please? --Thetoastman 04:22, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Instead of getting rid of it, why not take the information relevant to the Clone Wars section and put it in there? We do need a history section for it, after all. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 13:38, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Ion Cannons?
Evidently the 2 smaller guns on the Eta-2 are ion cannons but in ROTS all four cannons appear to fire lasers. You can see the smaller guns firing when Anakin destroys the shields on the Invisible Hand before they board it. "The New Republic engineers powered up the ion cannon and focused a single blast toward the lower section of the closest Imperial walker. The bolt struck and fused the knee joint of the AT-AT's front foreleg, melting the servomotor mechanisms."
 * Yet another flaw in the movies. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:16, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * It's not a "flaw" in the movies, since that's the highest canon. If there was a contradiction, it's a flaw in the C-canon book. But there isn't even a contradiction. Just because the blasts are green doesn't mean those were lasers (blue ion cannon blasts are a game mechanic, and the majority of Old Republic laser blasts in the movies are blue). Furthermore, ion cannons can inflict some physical damage. The ROTS ICS even states that the amount of heat released by the Invisible Hand's ion cannons is 4.8 megatons. JimRaynor55 06:38, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

- Dark Apprentice p.115

Ion cannons are just another type of energy weapon in SW. We've seen AT-AT lasers mess with electronics as a side-effect as well (inside Luke's T-47 in ESB). Different sides to the same thing. VT-16 09:59, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, then. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:46, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The problem is that the ROTSICS also states ion cannon blasts are plasma. The bolts shot are green.  There is no such thing as green plasma - the energy levels of the photons from an incandescent surface that correspond to the color green interact witht he rods and cones in our eyes in a manner that we see it as yellow or blue depending on how far they are, not green.  Same for purple.  So the ratioalization there should be that the description is for the generic Actis, but Anakin modified his.  It is supported by the fact that Labrynth of Evil states that his carries proton torpedos, yet they are clearly not shown on the diagram.  Lowkey 00:02, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I suppose that would work. So, Anakin's Eta-2 has laser cannons instead of ion cannons, then. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Data file) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:04, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Atmospheric Speeds of the Eta-2 and Delta-7
I've been having a quick flick through wookieepedia, and on the Eta-2 and Delta-7 entries the maximum atmospheric speeds are listed as 15,000kph and 12,000kph respectively. After bringing up the TIE/In page, I have concluded that either the technology of starfighter drive systems deteriorated drastically after the Clone Wars, or there's an extra zero on the end of each.

I'm going to change it. Just so you know.

Vyze 19:02, 13 August 2006 (GMT)
 * People keep doing that, and they keep being wrong. Please see the Delta-7 talk page and ARC-170 talk page and don't try to fix any more misprints that aren't misprints. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 18:17, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
 * And just to let you know, Vyze, if you do it again, it will be considered vandalism, and you may be banned. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:29, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh. Shame that I didn't read through the Delta-7 discussion page as well. Sorry for the misunderstanding, but at least there's a discussion on the subject in this page as well, now. Vyze [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 16:34, 14 August 2006 (GMT)
 * It's not going to change anything, though. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:57, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Nothing deteriorated fighter-wise from the CW era to the GCW era. WEG, who made the early statistics for their RPG games, treated SW fighters as slower than most modern-day jet fighters, for some reason. Not all writers treated starfighters as that slow in their books, so you'll find some discrepancies in older material, as well. VT-16 23:35, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Hopefully a new source will fix WEG's errors. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:53, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

also to add to this i remember that the fighters in question all have shields except maybe the eta 2 and only advanced models of ties have shields and ties are built to be SPACE superority fighter and it cant afford to move very fast or it could possibly tear the panels off while maneuvering(Boommer3 00:10, 3 September 2006 (UTC)) i didnt say they couldnt operate in an atmosphere i just said they cant couldnt work that well(Boommer3 02:36, 3 September 2006 (UTC)) i cant remember wat it was but if i look for it maybe(Boommer3 15:15, 3 September 2006 (UTC))
 * That's never been said in a canon source, though. Plus, we've seen TIEs operate in atmospheres. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 01:21, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Do you have a source to back up your claim? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 13:47, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Because I honestly do not think that your claim is sourced. Feel free to prove me wrong, though. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:52, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

I wish to clarify something... during the Republic's defense of Belderone in Labyrinth of Evil, Anakin was sporting a fighter 'similar to the earlier Delta-7s flown at the beginning of the Clone Wars'. So, I'm assuming it's the Eta-2. However, in one part of the novel, it says tht Anakin had launched a pair of proton torpedoes at a picket/gunship's failing shields n thus obliterating it. But according the armanent specs of the Eta-2, it does not carry any proton torpedoes. Is it possible that the Eta-2 could carry protorps or issit referring to a different fighter altogether? Thanx.

p/s: Sorry if the adaptation from the novel is slightly inaccurate
 * I think they could carry proton torpedos, but it's likely a modification made by Anakin. However, the Eta-2s in Battlefront II can carry proton torpedos. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 13:17, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Design

 * The Eta-2 fighter is an odd design. It is compact, yet has a spacious cockpit.  The cockpit provides good visibility, except forward, where the view is somewhat limited by the weapons (I don't know what kind of weapons) that jut out in front.Smokey
 * There's still a good visibility forward. The weapons don't limit that view. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:54, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Aurebesh inscription
I recently (and by recently I mean today) started to build a 3D puzzle of Anakin's Eta-2. I noticed a string of Aurebesh characters on the side. I checked my RotS Visual Dictionary, and found the string there too, and, as best as I could tell, saw the same string of characters. Obi-wan's ship had the same markings; however, they weren't the same characters. I decided to translate them, and I got the words "Elbert" and "Maria." Is it known anywhere in Star Warsdom if someone named "Elbert Maria", "Maria Elbert", or some other varient is prominent, as in, did they design the modelling for the ships and so on? Commander Jorrel Fraajic Communications Relay  08:43, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Interesting. Maybe someone who worked on the models. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 12:23, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * That's what I thought, too. Commander Jorrel Fraajic [[Image:Insignia.jpg|20px]] Communications Relay  15:12, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry if it sounded like I wasn't paying attention; I was just agreeing with you. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 21:42, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * No no, that's not what I meant when I posted that... I was just agreeing with you. Commander Jorrel Fraajic [[Image:Insignia.jpg|20px]] Communications Relay  21:47, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay. Because after re-reading my first response, I was a little confused myself. ;) Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 21:48, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, what you said sorta narrowed it down. Commander Jorrel Fraajic [[Image:Insignia.jpg|20px]] Communications Relay  21:50, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I suppose... Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 21:52, 8 January 2007 (UTC)