User talk:Cade Calrayn

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Eras in the new plant template
Hey Cade. I saw that just created a new "plant" infobox, which is a fine thing! Still, I wondered wheter there should really be era tags going with that infobox. After all, species infobox doesn't have them. --LelalMekha (talk) 00:38, September 1, 2013 (UTC)

Merchandise?
I understand what your saying, but sticker books DO have a presence on this wiki. Their is even a category for them.Darth Pickle 2 (talk) 04:19, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

Would this count as merchandise as well?
I was thinking of making a page for this, but I wanted to check with you first. What do you think? http://www.amazon.com/National-Geographic-Angry-Birds-Star/dp/1426213034/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1372176063&sr=1-55 (talk) 21:21, September 2, 2013 (UTC) `Darth Pickle 2 (talk) 21:22, September 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is entirely merchandise. Any Angry Birds material should not receive an article beyond the articles for the two games themselves. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  21:53, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

Undone of your change of dawn of the Jedi
In reality, I don't give a shit, so do as you want. Do not forget to change the titles for each issue of kotor, Swtor, Legacy, Dark times, Republic, Rebellion, ... Maxattac (talk) 21:59, September 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm only doing this because the DOTJ issues are specifically not labelled as 6-10 and 11-15&mdash;each arc starts over. However, the Part # is valid; I'll re-add those. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  22:02, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

Pre-Republic tag
Heya, Cade. The Pre-Republic tag is not from a publishing era, but it is used to have a visual distinction between things that are timeless (no tag) and those that happen before the publishing eras start. It serves a purpose, and we need to have it. We also are in great need of a new icon, and I've pointed this out before. Please put them back. NaruHina Talk  18:50, September 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * You're welcome to try a new SH to get a new eras tag, but until then, it's incorrect to use the Pre-Republic era as a tag when it's not a publishing era. A Before the Je'daii era could work, but I don't have the time at the moment to write up a SH or anything. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  19:01, September 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Cade, the Pre-Republic era tag has been used on here for nearly six years for the exact reasons that Naru said. That's a lot of precedent to overcome. If you feel that it should not be used or that a different icon should be used, please start a discussion and get consensus first. Wide, sweeping changes like what you suggest (that it should not be used at all) are not something that you should be bold with. The tags need to stay where they are until the community decides otherwise, and I will be reverting your edits for that reason. &mdash;MJ&mdash; Comlink 23:47, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry about that, I just knew I'd have to make an edit to put the page in the past tense, and I didn't want to do that.74.72.159.170 02:30, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Murttoc
Hello, I'd appreciate it if you were not so quick to revert my edits. This topic has been the subject of an ongoing discussion between myself, User:Hanzo Hasashi and User:Sompeetalay for a few days now. I've included a link to our discussion here. Thankyou for your cooperation. Bo Shuda (talk) 03:10, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

Seriously?
They need to be categorized. If someone wants more info on BTS material they can click on the imagecat box and find more behind the scenes imagery of particular characters; puppets or not. Find me a policy that prevents this and I'll gladly comply but your logic is ludicrous. Bo Shuda (talk) 04:07, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

TC closure
Hey, I've closed Trash compactor/Character sheets as a merge to the adventure. I will leave it to you as the nominator to carry out the actual merge. &mdash;MJ&mdash; Holocomm 18:55, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

And this as well?
Would Young DK Reader books be considered merchandise. Can I keep making pages for those products?Darth Pickle 2 (talk) 20:42, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

Inq Meeting 59
Hey Cade. Meeting 59 of the High Council of Inqusitors is scheduled for next week Saturday, September 21. Please make sure to leave notes if you cannot attend. Otherwise, see you there!  CC7567  (talk) 01:39, September 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Due to a conflict with the next EduCorps meeting, Inqmoot Meeting 59 has been rescheduled for the following Saturday, the 28th. Please double-check and confirm on the meeting page if you are still able to make it.  CC7567  (talk) 20:13, September 9, 2013 (UTC)

Unidentified
It is very hard to leave a reference for unidentified Jedi and unidentified clones but if you will help a fellow Jedi we can find the records.

You try and keep track of all the Jedi and the clones in Attack of the Clones there was 1 million clones and over a hundred Jedi!

People do all the time If I were to talk about Jaina Solo before she was introduced she would have been Fanon. Some of these people are on because of a book so if I decide to write a book on a whole bunch of unidentified Jedi and Clones you would not have anything to say!

Yeah good luck with that I have already started a script that has a chance to be the tenth Star Wars Movie and besides I say that half these people should not exist because someone wrote a book until the stick those two people in the extended universe, and yes Star Wars has an extended universe

You like the old republic. Nice... Anything specific you like?

EduCorps Meeting 2
You are invited to participate in EduCorps meeting 2, which is scheduled for 7 PM ET on Saturday, September 21st.-- Exiled Jedi   (Greetings)  14:13, September 12, 2013 (UTC)

RE: 4,300 BBY
On the Timeline of Galactic history, that same information is cited, I only moved the information to a new article to clear the redlink. Also, on Taris the information is cited, not from the first KOTOR, but from Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords. Plus, the information on 4,300 BBY says that Taris "became known as" which would indicate that people would say this about Taris, which is what you found in the dialogues of KOTOR. I guess I could reword it so that it's more clear if you would like that! I feel that this all makes that valid. But then again, I could be wrong. What do you think? -- Scorch1162 ''' (Priming Explosives) 02:44, September 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * Nah, none of it's valid. I actually traced the source of the info back to an anon several years ago, and it's proliferated via people reading info and copying it. The reference was false in the timeline page, and I've removed all of the other mentions of it and a few other years that I've confirmed to be fanon. 02:47, September 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * Alright, then I apologize. I'm sorry for the mistakes. I'll delete the sandbox information to effectively kill 4,300 BBY.

Sorry again, -- Scorch1162 ''' (Priming Explosives) 02:51, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

Spacetroopers
Hey Cal. From what I can see here, the troopers with backpack from ANH were indeed spacetroopers. The writing on the package is very clear about that. --LelalMekha (talk) 21:54, September 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * Interesting. I added the appearance back, though there's too many images in that article for there to be another. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  21:57, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

Battle of Balmorra discussion
Hi

I knew you'd show up sooner or later. For some time I'm calling you "The Butcher of Dawidos". Sorry for my dark sense of humour. Memorize what you said about the list of supporters in the article about Revan's Sith Empire. To this day it stands as a testimony of my work. You claimed it'd be removed by the others. It wasn't. It seems only you have problems with my work :)

Seriously speaking, I don't say a final word in the Battle of Balmorra article. I really want to expand the content of it, enhancing its quality as the best as it's possible. Listing these individuals will help me find all missions and events which can be included in the main body of this article. In addition, not everyone has time to read all the text. Sometimes you need to find precise information ASAP. The second reason is quite private. I was looking for the names of Balmorra collaborators and couldn't find on the Wookieepedia. So I've decided to do it by myself. I can put myself into somebody else shoes. I'm sorry to say that but I think you can't :( But I really respect your work, especially Hero of Tython article.

Don't worry my friend :). I won't leave this article in this current condition. I will try to make it suitable for your kind (people liking lots of text) and mine (people liking short information). Greetings, Dawidos2 (talk) 15:04, September 17, 2013 (UTC)Dawidos


 * I don't believe I've ever said anything about the Sith Empire list being removed by others, though after a discussion with other users, the Sith Empire list has been removed as it is entirely redundant and inferior to Category:Sith of Revan's Sith Empire and Category:Military personnel of Revan's Sith Empire. Lists are greatly inferior to categories, and if you're determined to have all of the Balmorran collaborators listed somewhere&mdash;and it certainly doesn't belong in the Battle of Balmorra article&mdash;then I'd suggest a Category:Balmorran collaborators, which can be added to the articles of all of the collaborators and included in Category:Sith Empire individuals. Your list also contains present tense, which is a major issue. Battle articles are not intended to be lists of combatants, they are intended as chronological summaries of the actual events. The individuals who participated are secondary. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  18:26, September 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Cade.I've received your message. I like your Battle of Corellia article very much. Could I finish only the Combatants section? Will something of my work survive? Maybe I could help you with something? I also like writing and updating articles about battles. Definitely, my favourite ones.Dawidos2 (talk) 17:09, September 20, 2013 (UTC)Dawidos

Well, what should we do with the ranks?
Look, we need to place the ranks somewhere, especially Cass's ranks and those from the DSTC since those weren't covered in the Essential Guide to Warfare at all. If you have any ideas as to where to place them, feel free to put them there. I really wish Wookieepedia didn't just remove the galleries, because that would have been the best place to put them. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:07, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * There is absolutely no reason to create articles for random Imperial officers just to save the images from deletion. The images and content were removed from the Imperial rank article because it was largely original research and speculation. As for the ranks that look different, it's called artistic error and artistic license. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  21:13, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Fine, but we still need to do something about the Imperial officers even if it is expanding them. We've already got plenty of unidentified character articles on here, so I honestly don't see why they don't make the cut. They're characters, so they get articles. It's a wiki, after all. As far as the Ranks, can we at LEAST try to put them in the not not delete section, especially Cade's rank since that was not covered at all? Actually, I think we should create a series of tables listing variants covered in the behind the scenes section of the Rank Insignia articles, especially for reference purposes. Its not original research or speculation if its explicitly stated to have come from something like the Death Star Technical Companion, which at least the DSTC ranks were stated to have originated from that. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:20, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't understand what you're talking about, but if you have information from an actual source, then feel free to add to an article using text and references. Images aren't always necessary; they're a luxury that that requires significant text before they can be used. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  21:23, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * According to some of the images (specifically, Dstmgmf.jpg, Dstmgnc.jpg, Dstmaj.jpg, and Dstmcom.jpg, and Dstmcap.jpg, among others), they came from the Death Star Technical Companion, which is an actual text-based source. As far as what I was babbling about earlier, I was referring to the Unidentified Imperial officers, since the way you were talking indicated that you planned to delete the articles. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:40, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

Preparing for War
Hey Cade. Please make sure to check your objections to the Preparing for War GAN when you get the chance; they've been addressed for over a week. Thanks.  CC7567  (talk) 23:56, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

Fanon?
First of all, I am not trying to add any fanon on this site. All what I have been doing was fixing. But I was been accused. In the Archimar page, it showed a few spots that he was male. I have been reading that page perfectly, but some other user assumed it was wrong. I don't know what's going on. Second, I'm not the same guy, and I don't know why you would say something like that to me. This is not a warm welcome that I'm getting.--99.56.52.29 12:29, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

I didn't say that I read the book Before the Storm, only the page at this site. I didn't know that Archimar is mentioned once. When I looked through the page, two of the sentences had he and I thought it was male.--99.56.52.29 00:51, September 22, 2013 (UTC)

Look, please understand this, I thought Archimar was male since it said "he" two times before I edited it.--99.56.52.29 01:13, September 22, 2013 (UTC)

Corso Riggs's weapons category
Hi Cade. Exiledjedi and I are trying to figure out why a category was created for Corso Riggs's weapons? Categories are not used for weapons that are used by a single individual. -- Richterbelmont10  ( come in R2! ) 04:11, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * This is a specific and unique case, as he's got almost a dozen named weapons that are a focus of his personality; I can't think of another character who has a named collection like this. I'm not saying this should become common practice, but it's a unique case. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  04:13, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

UCotE
I'm apologizing for editing the page on the Exile. I had no idea it was a topic of such dissent. This was my first attempt at posting to Wookieepedia and I was not attempting to troll at all.

I played The Sith Lords when it first came out and then forgot about it, and then recently I re-installed it again to try with the restored content mod. I then wondered if there was more storyline developed around the character which brought me to Wookieepedia.

I was surprised to see that there had indeed been more backstory created, but I was also surprised at the omission of the original promotional materials for the game depicting the Exile as male. I thought that that was important enough to include in an exhaustive reference source like this one so that's why I submitted the edit.

Sincere apologies again.

P.S. The promotional artwork I was referring to were these: http://www.gamewallpapers.us/kotor-2-sith-lords

Berewold (talk) 04:45, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

KB: Turbolasers
Hey, why did you undo the post I left behind in the Knowledge bank? Everyone has some reason, and usually the person who complains about it first gets told off on some sketchy or genuine violation of policy. So let us avoid games and get straight to the point and then get past it if you really suppose something was wrong with what I said. I was already participating in that talk, there was no reason to rescind that post.99.188.36.80 04:35, September 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * It was a mistake that occurred when I was rollbacking a number of consecutive edits. Your edit got caught in the crossfire. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  04:50, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

Good to know
I am pleased to hear that it was a mistake. I was psyched up, ready for a war or some contest over a minute error that had no basis in logic or reason. Thanks Calrayn.99.188.36.80 14:56, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

Darth Nox
Hi Cade! Although I don't really have as much ardor and enthusiasm as you do when it comes to such pharaonic project as the Hero of Tython, I feel inspired by your example, and I would like to start improving Darth Nox' article. However, I suspect there are many info about the Inquisitor in the Star Wars: The Old Republic Encyclopedia, which I don't own. I wondered whether you could provide me with the relevant info from that book. Do not worry, I'm aware that you keep yourself busy here, but I'm not in a hurry myself. The Darth Nox project will be a long one. Cheers! --LelalMekha (talk) 21:35, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

Meeting reminder
A reminder that Inq Meeting 59 will be in two days (if you go by ET, that's Saturday the 28th at 8 PM ET). If you can't make it, please remember to leave notes. Thanks.  CC7567  (talk) 02:32, September 27, 2013 (UTC)

Images
Heyas! I was just wanted to know if there's a reason why the 3D render of Bastila is used instead of the other image. Is it because the 3D render represents her latest attire or appearance, or something along those lines? Just confused and need clarification. Thanks! -- 04:53, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

Imperial strike team (Cold War)
Hello. I would like to make an argument against deletion of Imperial strike team (Cold War) page. You argue that it is not stated that those four individuals were sent to Flashpoints. I think the game evidence says the opposite. Malgus, the main character involved with the Flashpoints, is contacting exactly those four individuals throughout the individual class storylines. Some of his in-game conversations are even specific to the class (i.e. referring directly to Agent, for example). The Flashpoints take four individuals, that is in my opinion clearly established. Though the game-play mechanics themselves allow different composition of the 4 man team, for example two Agents, but that is non-canon since there are no two Cipher Nine in the universe. So the only reasonable option left is that each of the class represents one of those four that participated in Flashpoint. I fail to see how that is non-canon. Furthermore, while there is a strong and rather quite direct evidence that Wrath, Nox, Nine and Champion of the Great Hunt participated in those missions, there is no direct evidence that anyone else participated in their strike team. Sometimes Imperial Navy or Army is supporting them but they are not the strike team itself and are stated along the strike team in the participants list. Path-x (talk) 02:10, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * There are several holes in your theory. First off, the Allusis Flashpoint features Imperial and Republic strike teams that are composed of unique NPCs who are unrelated to the class characters. Secondly, the game's dialogue is specifically tailored to individual players. If a player has not completed a specific operation or flashpoint, then dialogue will not acknowledge their participation in the event. It's speculation to definitively say that the class characters are involved; what about Operations? Just because there are four individuals on the "strike team"&mdash;which is not necessarily the same between every Flashpoint&mdash;doesn't mean that the four class characters are involved. Until there is definitive evidence on the canon outcomes of the Flashpoints and Operations, which could be completed by either faction, we can't assume that the class characters are the strike team members. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  02:18, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well as for Operations, I think those can be classified as PVE end-game content while Flashpoints are storyline related. So I believe there is a difference. Now as for Flashpoints and individual class involvement, I think you have a point (though it may be just as valid as mine) but if we followed that point then we would need to remove many other things. One of the examples is Allusis Flashpoint that you mentioned yourself. Currently the page lists 1 Sith Warrior, 1 Sith Inquisitor, 1 Agent and 1 Bounty Hunter which is (according to what you stated) the same contradiction. If we are to follow what you said, then stuff like this should be also removed. Path-x (talk) 02:50, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Now if I may propose a compromise solution. We could still have the strike team page. Malgus being the leader is still completely canon, as well as many other things I stated on, now deleted, page. As for Wrath's, Nox's, Nine's and Champion's involvement, we could either not mention it at all or treat it as "occasional". The point I am trying to make is that I don't see the reason why the page itself had to be removed when only the "non-canon" part could be omitted. Path-x (talk) 02:50, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * But that's assuming that the strike teams are the same, which they aren't. It's just a group of random individuals who Malgus gathers for various missions, and the characters aren't necessarily the same each time. There's no reason to be specific about the strike teams or to make articles for them. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  03:02, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * I completely agree that the composition may have varied from mission to mission BUT I just cannot agree that it was a different strike team. There is a clear evidence that this is the same strike team (always commanded by Malgus, always operating from Vaiken Spacedock). Though Malgus may have picked different individuals to participate in his strike team, it was always his strike team. Fighter squadrons and all other units during the wars naturally change their composition throughout the time but it is still the same squadron/unit. And the reason to have an article of its own is for the convenience of the reader. The page was a hub for all the Flashpoints that Malgus and his strike team did. Path-x (talk) 03:17, September 30, 2013 (UTC)

Hey I'm sorry I love Anakin Solo and I was going to change it back but I wanted to see how long it would take someone realize it sorry I didn't mean to make you mad or anything my bad

Build R2-D2
Isn't it non-merchandise, because it comes with a book, about r2's role in the galaxy, and adventures?Darth Pickle 2 (talk) 01:51, October 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * I see nothing unique about it; it's a promotional product for a model. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  01:55, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

Source and references
Listen, I don't know what's going on. And I'm just as confused of what this is. First, I'm not trying to add any confusion towards you. Second, I was only trying to help and add the right references from the Star Wars: Galaxies. Those few edits that I did were not wrong. I added the right references.--99.56.52.29 00:29, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

Revert Raptus
Why did you revert it? That was the latest version of Raptus.--67.189.155.19 13:34, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

Armor
Hey, you were right about Attatag Gosem. I added a bit about his armor and headset; it was noticeably absent when you consider that his blaster pistol was already mentioned. I was being too prissy about it before, and the article looks better now. Hooray! Menkooroo (talk) 14:21, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

Table of Contents for list of Status Articles pages
Hi, I was wondering if you could give your input on the Senate Hall thread "Table of Contents requested for Status Articles pages" and let us know if you like the proposed Table of contents that was created by JangFett. If you want to see what it would look like, you can see it in this Table of Contents prototype page. Let us know what you think so we can implement this into the three pages (CA/GA/FA).-- Richterbelmont10  ( come in R2! ) 18:30, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

Human
90.202.244.49 16:14, October 10, 2013 (UTC)Adanar is a Human and I've got a source for it Darth Bane path of destruction typically states he is Human same with Ulabore90.202.244.49 16:14, October 10, 2013 (UTC)

90.202.244.49 18:00, October 10, 2013 (UTC)I don't know if their is a source from Darth Bane path of Destruction but thier is definitely and undeniably a source that say Adanar and Ulabore are Human in the Complete Star Wars Encyclopaedia.90.202.244.49 18:00, October 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but that's complete bull. I have the CSWE right here, and the word "Human" is not mentioned a single time in either of their entries. "man" does not mean Human. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  18:05, October 10, 2013 (UTC)

Lists
Hello Cade, the problem is you appear to have gone on a list purge without appending any of the applicable categorisation tags to your edits or attempting to reinsert relevant information back into the article itself. Please, if you're going to remove information, make sure that each entry you remove has been appropriately tagged with the relevant categorisation tags first. Thank you. Bo Shuda (talk) 04:11, October 12, 2013 (UTC) Cade, I realise you have not yet gone over the 3 reverts but you are getting close. As you did not attempt to initially engage me in dialogue I'm issuing this as a reminder. As I explained before there is no relevant category so the information should remain in one form or the other. Also as previously mentioned based on your past edits to lists, you appear to remove lists without re-categorising individual entries or attempting to re-insert relevant information. This just creates more work for everyone. Thank you. Bo Shuda (talk) 04:49, October 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * Your POV on what is triva or not is your POV. New users would find it useful to be able to identify who was there during the events of films. Since we have no category for Outlander Club patrons at that time then the list should stay. Bo Shuda (talk) 04:32, October 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * A list of patrons is trivia. There's no reason to have a list of what characters were there at a certain, that's ridiculous. If you want one, then write it out as a paragraph.  Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  04:38, October 12, 2013 (UTC)

Ministry of Travel and Hub 3 (among other things)
Cade, it's not that I regard myself as completely above suspicion, but I don't think I've displayed the habit of making things up here. If the Ministry of Travel and the Hub 3 are nowhere in the game files, it's probably because game files aren't everything. Actually, I'm one of the rare players who actually read the Aurebesh inscriptions in the game, and those things you marked as dubious come from a map kiosk shown in Kaas City. I was going to upload it and write a BTS, but I wanted to create the relevant articles first. There is still more information to dig. (And I also didn't do it right on the spot because my connection is a real nightmare tonight&hellip; It took me twenty darn minutes just to upload that pic you saw!) --LelalMekha (talk) 23:48, October 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that, Lelal, but I was concerned by the lack of information I could find on the subject. "Ministry of Travel" seemed contradictory to all other material that said there are only three ministries in the Empire, and I wasn't sure where you were getting it, so I tagged it with a verify because I had to leave just after I saw the article. It's not that I don't trust you :P I just didn't know whether you were going to leave it as it stood without any further information. Glad that could be cleared up, and yeah, the Wook's been really bad today in terms of loading. (P.S. The game files actually are almost everything&mdash;99% of the text in the game is in the text files I have; I've only seen one instance where they weren't.) Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  00:02, October 14, 2013 (UTC)

New infobox
I don't know if you did it for me, but... thank you. :D This looks like it'll be much better. Menkooroo (talk) 05:48, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * I actually thought of it when I saw you working on the Legacy arc; it'll be useful for me too :P Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  05:49, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

Battle of Hoth
Cade, as explained by my comment attached to the recent edit on the Battle of Hoth (Great Galactic War) page, the battle itself cannot take place later than 3,664 BBY as per page 84 of The Journal of Master Gnost-Dural. Please stop unnecessarily reverting my edits without getting your facts straight or bothering to check them in the first place. Bo Shuda (talk) 04:54, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * As it's my FA, I'd ask you to back off and actually do your research. If you look at the date for the entry in which the battle is mentioned&mdash;Chapter 8&mdash;it's two years after the Battle of Alderaan, and four and a half years before the entry on page 84. That's 3,665 BBY. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  04:57, October 22, 2013 (UTC)