Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations

 This page is for the nomination of "comprehensive articles". For a list of "comprehensive articles", see Category:Wookieepedia comprehensive articles.


 * Comprehensive article nominations history
 * Comprehensive article nominations archiving checklist

What is a "comprehensive article?"

A "comprehensive article" is an article that contains all information regarding the topic. Often, "comprehensive articles" cannot reach Featured or Good Article status due to their limited content. This process is intended to recognize articles that contain all relevant canon information, yet are still under the 250 word limit required for a Good Article. The purpose of this is twofold&mdash;firstly, to help users distinguish what is a stub, and what is merely a short article with no further relevant material to be added, and, more importantly, to highlight for the reader when they are reading something that has been judged definitely "comprehensive"&mdash;that is, a guarantee to the reader that whatever they are reading contains the sum total of all available content.

Nominations and promotions of the Comprehensive article process are overseen by a collective of users known as the "EduCorps," which is made up of the Inquisitorius, the AgriCorps, and various other experienced users who are considered qualified to adequately judge the nominated material.

Lucasfilm Ltd. and its many licensees continue to expand the Star Wars universe. Since new information might become available, it may be necessary to revoke a "comprehensive article's" status. A forum will be used to nominate articles that have fallen out-of-date. Members of the EduCorps will then post a warning template on that page, and a grace period of one week will be instituted in which the article can be improved. If there is a significant amount of new information, it is likely that once updated, the article will become eligible for Good article status, and thereby ineligible for Comprehensive article status.

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An article must&hellip;


 * 1) &hellip;be well-written and detailed.
 * 2) &hellip;be unbiased, non-point of view.
 * 3) &hellip;be sourced with all available sources and appearances.
 * 4) &hellip;follow the Manual of Style, Layout Guide, and all other policies on Wookieepedia. This is, of course, within reason. If a topic only has a very limited degree of content that cannot be divided up into the relevant article sections, it is not required that it follow the Layout Guide precisely. This is to be judged on a case-by-case basis.
 * 5) &hellip;following the review process, be stable, i.e., does not change significantly from day to day and is not the subject of ongoing edit wars. This does not apply to vandalism and protection or semi-protection as a result of vandalism.
 * 6) &hellip;not be tagged with any sort of improvement tags (i.e. more sources, expand, etc).
 * 7) &hellip;have no redlinks.
 * 8) &hellip;have all relevant canon information presented.
 * 9) &hellip;be completely referenced for all available material and sources. See Sourcing for more information. While this is not required for an article possessing a singular source, it is encouraged, as it provides both uniformity and a good infrastructure should the topic be referenced in any future materials.
 * 10) &hellip;have all quotes and images sourced.
 * 11) &hellip;provide at least one relevant quote on the article if available.
 * 12) &hellip;include a "Behind the scenes" section for in-universe articles.
 * 13) &hellip;counting the introduction, the article body, and "Behind the scenes" material, must not exceed 250 words in length (not including captions, quotes, or headers, etc). Any articles exceeding the limit should be taken to the Good article nominations page for consideration.
 * 14) &hellip;if the nominated article reaches 200 words or greater, the nominator must either provide an intro or draft an intro and provide a link to the revision in the nomination, showing that the intro does not elevate the article over 250 words. Exceptions can be made for articles wherein the majority of the text is in the "Behind the scenes" section.

How to nominate:


 * 1) First, nominate an article you find is worthy of comprehensive status, putting it at the bottom of the list below. Nominated articles must meet all thirteen requirements stated above.
 * 2) Add CAnom at the top of the article you are nominating.
 * 3) Be sure to place sign in the "Nominated by" line when the nomination is posted for voting.
 * 4) Others will object to the nomination if they disagree that the article is good enough; they will then supply reasons for doing so, and ways to improve the article in accordance with the established rules.
 * 5) Nominators and supporters will adjust the article until the objectors (with reasonable objections) are satisfied. Objectors may also make alterations&mdash;if there is any reason for contention on a given point, it should be settled in a civil manner in the nomination field itself.
 * 6) Users may not vote on their own articles.
 * 7) There is no limit to the amount of nominations a given user can submit at any given time.

How to vote:


 * 1) Before doing anything, be sure to read the article completely, keeping a sharp eye out for mistakes.
 * 2) Afterward, compare the article to the criteria listed above, and then either support or object the article's nomination.
 * 3) *If you object, please supply concrete reasons for doing so, and how it can be improved.
 * 4) As stated above, any objections will be looked upon by the nominator, supporters, and anyone willing to improve the article, and action will be taken to please the objectors. Do not strike other users' objections; it is up to the objector to review the changes and strike if they are satisfied.
 * 5) There are several ways in which an article can receive the required number of votes. Within a 48-hour period of nomination, only EduCorps votes will count towards the total, although anyone may choose to vote in that window. If two members of the EduCorps support a nomination in that window, and there are no outstanding objections, the article can be considered a "Comprehensive article" and be tagged with the template 48 hours after the initial nomination.  The talk page will also be tagged with the CA template. When the 48 hours are up, any user's votes will contribute towards the total. If one EduCorps member has voted for an article after a week, three regular votes will be required. After the 48 hour period, an article can still also pass with just two EduCorps votes.
 * 6) Once a nomination is successful, it will be placed on the Comprehensive article list. Instructions on how to archive nominations, successful or otherwise, can be found here. Anyone can archive a nomination&mdash;just make sure it has the correct number of votes, has been nominated for at least a week (or 48 hours if there are two EC votes), and that there are absolutely no outstanding objections. If you are not sure how to do this, just ask, and someone will likely be more than willing to help you. Also, if you think you can slip one past us, think again&mdash;someone is always watching you.

All nominations will be considered idle and are subject to instantaneous removal by EduCorps members if objections are not addressed, or at least not answered, after a period of 1 week.

Please remember to archive your nomination beforehand if you plan on taking it to the Good Article Nominations page.

Unidentified Rebel sergeant

 * Nominated by: NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 07:37, March 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: "The Marines have landed and have the situation well in hand!"

(2 ECs/3 Users/5 Total)
Support
 * 1) Nice work, though try to get the first edition to see if there is any more info. 501st Dogma Republic_emblem.png( Comlink ) 13:05, March 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) *There wouldn't be more info. It's just a "the quote was there." NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 17:33, March 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) He forgot to call them monkeys. Corellian PremierRobotech.jpg along the watchtower 17:07, March 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) Great quote. Hanzo Hasashi 00:44, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * 5)  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 16:10, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * 6)  graestan ( talk ) 22:53, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Object
 * The article refers to the sergeant as male, but the character is categorized as unidentified gender. Hanzo Hasashi 15:02, March 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Fixed. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 03:47, March 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think a bit of reorganization in the main part of the article might be in order. As it stands, we have two sentences on the historian before we know why it's pertinent information to the sergeant. Perhaps reword to say something like, "The historian Arhul Hexawhatever quoted the sergeant in a manual for the Alliance called blah blah blah..." and then give the background information. ~ Savage BOB sig.png 16:57, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * That better? NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 18:05, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Comments
 * Crap. I noticed a mistake after I slapped on the tag, as is my custom. I don't know if he was mentioned in the first edition. If someone has it, please let me know. I'll try to find a copy on Monday. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 07:42, March 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * I can't find a copy of the first editon anywhere. Anyone know a Wookieepedian to ask about WEG books? NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 03:47, March 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Please remember that "this" (and, by extension, its plural form: "these") is not a past-tense term. Anyway, I'm ready to drop my vote on this as soon as you can get this figured out&mdash;I'd suggest asking in the Senate Hall. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 15:51, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * I bought the book online. It'll be here in a bit. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 16:03, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, everybody, his quote was in there. At 8 cents per word, this is my most expensive article yet. :) NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 16:06, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, I was apparently tired when I read that. "This" has no tense. It's grammatical. The sentence's tense depends on other words: "There once was a panther. This beast's hair was black." NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 16:26, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree with you. I'm not sure when or how the hate for this and these got started 'round here. ~ Savage BOB sig.png 16:53, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * It traces back to some people having a preference for "A" at the start of unidentified articles. "'This' is past tense" was an argument invented to support "A" being the standard, and if that is true (it's not) then it follows that "this" can't be used in articles at all. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 16:57, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Is that a joke, Naru? Do you honestly believe there was a group of us who decided: "Ooh, let's change unidentified article intros from "This" to "A" even though there's no actual grammar rule!" because we just randomly decided to like "A" better? That's far and away one of the most ridiculous accusations I've heard in my time on this site (and this being the internet, I've seen my my fair share of silly accusations). I just went over "this" with Trayus here. From what I understand, it does have a tense because the term "this" fundamentally requires a reference to something that is here and now&mdash;if you point to "this" it must be something that is tangible in the present&mdash;it cannot be something of the past that is not present in the situation. Anyway, Trayus and I are both looking into it more to see what we can find out. If we can find proof of a grammar rule one way or the other, then I guarantee you this site will stick to it. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 17:20, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * It does not have to do with something that is here and now, though it can. By definition is a word that references something to be given context (A panther is a beast) or, if that context has already been given, it is a variant identifier (This beast's hair was black). Your prose can be whatever tense you want, but "this" doesn't affect it. Further, I didn't say "random" because I don't know exactly where the idea came from initially, only roughly when, and the first time I saw the tense argument was some time after that. If your reasoning given there was why the initiative started, then more people who wanted to change it should have been aware of that and should have been providing it as a reason. They were not. I didn't say the whole group decided that because they thought "A is better" because I know ther had to be multiple ones and I can recall off the top of my head the location of at least one proponent, Cal Jedi, citing that it looks better as a reason. That wasn't the only time I've heard that. Simmer down. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 18:12, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Getting off-topic here, so I've replied on your talk page. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 19:09, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Bob: I don't know how long it's been for others, but Tommy clued me in at least a couple years ago. And it's not "hate" for the words; with my understanding of grammar I just honestly think that "this" (and, by extension, it's plural form "these") cannot correctly be used in the simple past tense. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 17:23, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * FWIW, Naru, you are assuming too much again by saying that I gave a reason of that it "looks better." On that nomination, I was merely making a statement. I never said that you should change "this" simply because it "looks better."&mdash; Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 13:31, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * If I took what you said a step too far, sorry, but I intepereted that as a listed reason to stop using it. I didn't say that it was "simply because" of that or that it was your only reason. I did not think that for a second. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 18:39, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

Guts and Glory

 * Nominated by: Darth Needham 22:43, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:Good old KOTOR article, why not?

(0 ECs/0 Users/0 Total)
Support

Object
 * 1) Exiled Jedi
 * 2) *First, you should move this page to the book's full title.
 * 3) **Do you want me to try and move it for you?-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  17:09, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) *You also need to include more information about the contents of the book. I am pretty sure that it mentioned several different band members.
 * 5) **It would good if you summarized the progession of who was in the band at different times using your own words.
 * 6) *You need to mention when the book was written in the article.
 * 7) **You will need find a source for the year, the game is not a source for the year.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  17:09, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * 8) *If the game did not say that the band was killed by Calo Nord then do not speculate that it might have occured.
 * 9) **You still need to mention that the book broke off when they were about to go and perform for Davik.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  17:09, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * 10) * The information in the behind the scenes section should probably go inside of Gamemechanics tags.
 * 11) **Please note the Endgame tag for further reference.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  17:09, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * 12) * Revan was not a Jedi at the time of the events on Taris.
 * 13) *Please include a Behind the scenes section mentioning what source the item appeared in.
 * 14) **Please look at some other CAs and follow their example when writing the BTS.
 * 15) **In the BTS, you should also mention that the journal provided information necessary to opening the lockbox in the room.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  17:09, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * 16) *I will review the article again after you fix these issues.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  23:00, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * 17) *The about section should be a history section instead.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  17:09, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * hows that? (Can't move page per what I wrote in the SH) Darth Needham 23:29, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

Comments

Brovto

 * Nominated by: — Cade  Calrayn  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 22:28, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: One of several TOR vendors on Tatooine that I wrote up quickly.

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Object
 * 1) A more specific date for the events of the game is available. See the article for the game. graestan ( talk ) 23:05, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) *Done.
 * 3) Savaged&hellip;
 * 4) *For these kinds of articles, there should be quotes, even if just the generic "Best post exchange around" kind of thing. They're still canonical sayings by these folks. Can you add quotes? ~ Savage BOB sig.png 01:14, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * 5) **Added "Come back any time" - I don't know if he says anything else. — Cade  Calrayn  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 17:36, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * 6) *Also, don't forget to describe appearance in the main body: hair color, eye color, skin color, any distinguishing features like scars, and clothing. Languages too, especially for the aliens, since they tend not to speak Basic but can presumably understand it since the player characters all speak it. ~ Savage BOB sig.png 01:17, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * 7) **Done. Did you ever get those pants? :) — Cade   Calrayn  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 17:36, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Comments
 * Are the specific titles such as Mods Vendor or Cantina Vendor referring to classes of NPC? Are they listed as such in the game? I need more information before I review further. graestan ( talk ) 23:05, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Vendor is the NPC "class" (ie. lvl. 20 Vendor), while Mods Vendor or Heavy Armor Vendor is the type of NPC.  It appears underneath the character's name when selected. — Cade   Calrayn  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 17:36, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Nif Sarjun

 * Nominated by: — Cade  Calrayn  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 22:28, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:

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Object Comments
 * 1) Olioster
 * 2) *Mention physical attributes in the body. Any quotes? Gal-icon.jpg  OLIOSTER  (talk) 01:48, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) **Done. — Cade  Calrayn  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 03:47, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) ***Oh, and no... He's one of the few mute vendors in the game. He won't even look at you, for heaven's sake&mdash;he must really like working. :P. — Cade   Calrayn  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 03:58, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

Roarcher

 * Nominated by: — Cade  Calrayn  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 22:28, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:

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Object Comments
 * 1) Olioster
 * 2) *Again, physical attributes and quotes, if any. Gal-icon.jpg  OLIOSTER  (talk) 01:48, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Cheroth

 * Nominated by: — Cade  Calrayn  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 22:28, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:

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Object Comments
 * 1) Olioster
 * 2) *Any quotes? Additionally, mention her physical appearance. Gal-icon.jpg  OLIOSTER  (talk) 01:46, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

CorusMall

 * Nominated by: Alexrd 13:04, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:

(0 ECs/1 Users/1 Total)
Support
 * 1) Ready for some shopping at the mall? Corellian PremierRobotech.jpg along the watchtower 22:06, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) The Premier
 * 2) A few prelims:
 * 3) The second listing of the video game under the Sources section is not necessary and can be removed.
 * 4) Please add the date of the game to the BTS.
 * 5) Since the article is not sectioned, you can add  to hide the table of contents.
 * 6) Please spell out in the BTS that the mission completely contradicts the movie, since we see the Queen leave directly from the landing pad and goes to the Senate, instead of being captured. And you might need the "twoconflicting" tag.
 * 7) That's it for the moment. Hope to see more from you, Alexrd. Corellian PremierRobotech.jpg along the watchtower 13:38, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Suggested changes made. Alexrd 14:08, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Okay, you need to replace the infobox with the new version.
 * 2) *All you need to do is load a new structure infobox from the standard preload box, which is below the edit screen, and then just copy/paste (carefully) the info to the new one. Corellian PremierRobotech.jpg along the watchtower 15:18, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) The use of "this" in the second sentence implies an OOU viewpoint we try to avoid. Could you replace it with "the" or another word.
 * 4) Weren't the mercenaries identified as being part of the Sun Guard? If so, please add context.
 * 5) Context on chokie (that is, food and not a collectible). Corellian PremierRobotech.jpg along the watchtower 16:13, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * 6) *I'm just suggesting that you specify its a food item. Corellian PremierRobotech.jpg along the watchtower 15:18, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * 7) Also, context for High Galactic Alphabet in the BTS.
 * 8) *I placed this objection so the reader could understand why it is important the High Galactic Alphabet is used and not Aurebesh. If you feel the difference is not important, then the sentence can just be removed.
 * 9) Looks like I spoke too soon. Once these objections are taken care of, the article will be over 200 words and will need sectioned per the layout guide: intro, description, and history. If it goes over 250 words, it can be taken to the GAN page instead.
 * 10) Thus ends round 2. Corellian PremierRobotech.jpg along the watchtower 16:13, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * 11) * Points 2 and 3 done, and fixed some links. However, I'm not sure what context is needed for chokie (the article doesn't imply that it's a collectible) and High Galactic Alphabet. And I'm not familiar with a new version of the infobox. Could you help me out? Alexrd 10:31, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * 12) **See above for my tips. Corellian PremierRobotech.jpg along the watchtower 15:18, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * 13) *All done. I think I haven't missed anything. Thanks for the help. Alexrd 18:02, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * 14) Very good job, and its still under 250! One more thing though, per the LG, thinks must be linked in both the intro and the body. After you sectioned off the article, Coruscant and Roona are no longer linked in the body. Please find a place for those links in the body. Corellian PremierRobotech.jpg along the watchtower 19:41, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. Alexrd 21:57, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

Comments
 * 1) Not an objection, but is it worth it creating articles for any of the Roonan traders? Corellian PremierRobotech.jpg along the watchtower 16:13, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) * I don't think so, for now. In my opinion they are not relevant enough to the events of the game. Alexrd 10:31, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) **Just a thought; it's true that they're not relevant to the game but if they have quotes and are unique individuals, it's extra "flavor," as I like to say. Corellian PremierRobotech.jpg along the watchtower 15:18, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

Arl'Tokor

 * Nominated by: — Cade  Calrayn  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 13:03, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: I don't know why, I just always think of Kingdom Hearts and the Lion King when I see a Cathar... that's kind of strange.

(0 ECs/1 Users/1 Total)
Support
 * 1)  501st Dogma Republic_emblem.png( Comlink ) 22:12, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

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