Wookieepedia:WookieeProject Knights of the Old Republic/Log/Meeting03 2010-07-30

WP:KOTOR meeting 03 was held 30th July(07) 2010 00:00 UTC in IRC channel #WP:KOTOR and contained following discussion:
 * Welcoming new members of the project
 * Jedi Civil War is top priority, needs updating from ex. The Essential Atlas and Timeline 8: The Jedi Civil War info needs to be provided. the article is currently probed and will be killed on August 7 by the Inqs if not updated by then.
 * Restated that by current WP:NFP since changes decided in Forum:CT Archive/Amendment to WP:NFP we will NOT have articles about game mods.
 * Source materials in our team and related requests will be gathered to their own project subpages. SoresuMakashi created List of resources and Requests after the meeting.
 * More work to be done with small articles from the games and comics


 * More meetings to come, Saturdays were suggested.

Discussion log. Log times are at UTC+3 03:06 < Jedi_Kasra> OK, welcome to the meeting, Rage, Chack, Grunny, Soresu, TM_T... 03:06 -!- ChackJadson changed the topic of #WP:KOTOR to: Welcome to Wookieepedia Knights of the Old Republic! The Meeting has commenced! 03:06 -!- Soresu2 has joined #WP:KOTOR 03:06 < Jedi_Kasra> Joe... 03:06 < DarthRage> Soresu 2? 03:06 < Jedi_Kasra> Huh? 03:07 < Soresu2> Yeah. 03:07 < Soresu2> I disconnected, and the ghost remains. 03:07 < DarthRage> Ha ha 03:07 <@grunny> \o/ 03:07 < Soresu2> THANKS. 03:07 < DarthRage> !ping 03:07 < Jedi_Kasra> One more, Tope, err.. Burger... 03:07 * Darth_Burger waves 03:07 < Jedi_Kasra> Anyway, great to have you all here. 03:07 < DarthRage> oh wait. she is not here (Nuku-Nuku) 03:07 <@ChackJadson> :( 03:08 < Jedi_Kasra> No. sadly... 03:08 < ShirleyWilson> Hey hey hey 03:08 < DarthRage> Its Fat Albert 03:08 < Jedi_Kasra> First off, I'd like to welcome the two newest members of the project. TM_T and Rage. 03:08 < DarthRage> Hello all. 03:09 < Soresu2> Hi 03:09 -!- Soresu2 is now known as Soresu 03:09 < Rubedo> m'yes 03:09 < DarthRage> I love the KOTOR games. They are works of art. The second one should have been finished. 03:09 < Soresu> What are the items of discussion this meeting? 03:10 < Jedi_Kasra> If you tww have any questions about the project, writing articles, etc. don't be afraid to ask any of us, including myself. 03:10 < Jedi_Kasra> two 03:10 < Jedi_Kasra> Glad you asked. We gotta work on JCW. 03:10 < Jedi_Kasra> For starters. Atlas info needs to be provided, as well as Timeline 8 info. 03:10 < Soresu> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jedi_Civil_War 03:11 < Jedi_Kasra> Thanks for the link. 03:11 < Rubedo> Dail-up can't help with that, unfortunately 03:11 < DarthRage> *raises hand and waves for attention* I have a question. 03:11 < Jedi_Kasra> So yeah, it needs some serious updating, it's being probed by the Inqs, right? 03:11 < Jedi_Kasra> Sure. 03:12 <@ChackJadson> Yeah, it will be killed on August 7 if not updated by then 03:12 < Jedi_Kasra> So we've got a week and a day... 03:13 < Soresu> vag 03:13 < Soresu> More friends... 03:13 < Jedi_Kasra> We can get this done, I believe, if we all put efforts into it. 03:13 <@ChackJadson> ... 03:13 < Jedi_Kasra> Yes? 03:13 < DarthRage> We aren't going to write articles of the mods are we. We can do the major and really good ones but if we try to do the majority of them. We will die of sheer overwellming. 03:13 < Soresu> Anyway, the Inqs will probably extend the probation if we say we're working on it. 03:14 < Rubedo> Mods are fan constructs. No articles 03:14 < Jedi_Kasra> To my knowledge, no, 03:14 < Soresu> Rage: We had that CT recently. 03:14 < DarthRage> No official ones? 03:14 < Rubedo> Nope 03:14 < Rubedo> LFL is a mothertrucker 03:14 < Jedi_Kasra> Those are considered fanon, and that we cannot have at all. 03:14 < DarthRage> Be honest. Who has used some mods? 03:14 <@ShoelessJoe> easy there buddy 03:15 < DarthRage> Say I 03:15 < Jedi_Kasra> Anyway, mods have nothing to do with the canon, and don't affect it in the least. 03:15 < Soresu> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:CT_Archive/Amendment_to_WP:NFP 03:15 <@ChackJadson> We're not changing our policy on this, DarthRage, just because a couple of people feel that we should have articles on mods 03:16 < Jedi_Kasra> So let's let the issue drop. 03:16 < Soresu> I'm kind of neutral on the subject, but we decided on this recently and people won't have changed their minds so quickly. 03:16 < Soresu> [' 03:17 < Soresu> .Any random posts are probably caused by friends. 03:17 < Soresu> BTW, we have a logger for this right? 03:18 < DarthRage> Since I just joined, is there a good bit of vandalism on the KOTOR articles? 03:18 < Jedi_Kasra> Anyway, Taral asked about putting a sub-page on the project page witha list of all the resources we have. I feel that this is nit such a bad idea, and have comprised a list of my resources. 03:18 < Jedi_Kasra> Rage: Yes, mostly on Revan's article. 03:18 < Jedi_Kasra> Soresu: TM_t sais he'd do logging... 03:18 < Rubedo> Any "True Sith" is fanon 03:18 < DarthRage> I save all the IRC chats I am in, in a notepad document 03:19 < Jedi_Kasra> ? 03:19 <@ChackJadson> Rage: feel free to clean it up and remove any such fanon you see 03:19 < Soresu> l.l 03:19 < DarthRage> So, I can provide a backup. 03:19 < DarthRage> Oh, and I will remove any I see 03:19 < Soresu> Back to the topic at hand, yes, I agree with Taral's idea. 03:19 < Jedi_Kasra> I'm not sure about the True Sith, heck, they're mentioned in the first Timeline video... 03:20 < DarthRage> hm. 03:20 < Rubedo> It's based on Kreia's words from K2, but it wasn't a proper noun and was (retcon) reffering to the Sith Empire. So it should say "Sith Empire" now 03:20 < Soresu> Maybe put it in a subpage? 03:20 < Jedi_Kasra> Gnost Dural clearly says the True Sith Empire launched an attack... 03:20 < DarthRage> This is new to me 03:20 < Jedi_Kasra> True. This should be removed, I guess. 03:20 < Jedi_Kasra> Anyway, sub-page would be a good idea. 03:21 < Jedi_Kasra> Who wants to volunteer? 03:21 < Soresu> ./ 03:21 < Rubedo> He raised his hand 03:21 < Rubedo> ! 03:21 < Soresu> I can offer KOTOR 1 to the list. 03:21 < DarthRage> volunteer for what again? I have played both KOTOR games several times 03:22 < Jedi_Kasra> Anyone have any objections to such a list before it's created? 03:22 < Soresu> I you'd like, I'll post a message on all members' talk pages asking for a list of their resources. 03:22 < Jedi_Kasra> Sure. Can I e-mail my list to you? 03:23 < Soresu> Sure. 03:23 < Jedi_Kasra> BTW, where has Cylka been, just out of curiosity? 03:23 < DarthRage> I haven't read the comics. I don't have a job unless you count cutting grass for 20 dollars a week, so to buy all of them is not easy. 03:23 <@ChackJadson> Kasra: gone 03:23 <@ChackJadson> Haven't seen her in months 03:23 <@ChackJadson> Don't count on seeing her again soon 03:23 < Soresu> Rage: if you want them badly, message me. 03:24 < DarthRage> Wait. What> 03:24 < Soresu> Yeah, the Cheif Editor thing was Tommy's idea. 03:25 <@ShoelessJoe> Cylka is going to be a while 03:25 <@ShoelessJoe> personal life issues 03:25 < Jedi_Kasra> Thanks, Joe and Chack. 03:25 <@ShoelessJoe> family stuff 03:25 < Soresu> Any suggestions about a name for the subpage? 03:26 < Jedi_Kasra> Next time you here from her, please tell her I said "What's up?" 03:26 < Jedi_Kasra> Hmm... 03:26 <@ChackJadson> List of stuff 03:26 < Jedi_Kasra> List of resources? 03:26 < Rubedo> Resourse List 03:26 < Jedi_Kasra> Like that, Chack... 03:26 <@ChackJadson> heh 03:26 < Soresu> OK sounds good. 03:26 < Jedi_Kasra> Oh, Soresu, check your e-mail. 03:26 < Soresu> All those in favour of "list of stuff", say I. 03:27 < Jedi_Kasra> I 03:27 < Jedi_Kasra> Trayus was supposed to be here... 03:27 <@ChackJadson> Aye 03:27 < Soresu> Yeah I got it. Anyway, I have to go now. I'm moving to sport classes, so I can't attend further. 03:28 < DarthRage> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, 03:28 < Jedi_Kasra> OK, man, be cool. The log will be made. 03:28 < DarthRage> Bye. 03:28 < Soresu> Cya. 03:28 < Jedi_Kasra> Thanks for coming! 03:28 -!- Soresu has quit [Quit: CGI:IRC] 03:28 < Rubedo> That's a ROTS ref, Rage 03:29 < DarthRage> ROTS......? 03:29 < Rubedo> Make a Kotor refdf next time >:| 03:29 < Jedi_Kasra> Of course, he could also have been pulling a Carth... 03:29 <@ChackJadson> It's over 9000! 03:29 -!- mode/#WP:KOTOR [+vvv Jedi_Kasra Rubedo Tm_T] by ShoelessJoe 03:29 <+Jedi_Kasra> On the Leviathan. 03:29 <@ChackJadson> What 9000?! 03:29 <+Jedi_Kasra> 9000? 03:29 <@Darth_Burger> When 9000 years old you reach, smell as good you will not. 03:29 < DarthRage> 9000? 03:29 <@ChackJadson> Google it if you don't get it :P 03:29 <+Rubedo> Yes, but no one pulls a Carth anymore 03:30 < DarthRage> Okay 03:30 <@ChackJadson> Tope: *hear as good 03:30 <+Jedi_Kasra> Ha ha. 03:30 <@Darth_Burger> Wrong. 03:30 <@Darth_Burger> Look at the script 03:30 <@Darth_Burger> n00b 03:30 <@ChackJadson> I'm pretty sure it's "jump" 03:30 <@ChackJadson> nubcake 03:31 < DarthRage> Yeah. I am a noob 03:31 <@ChackJadson> Has the subpage been established? 03:31 <+Jedi_Kasra> Yeah, Soresu's gonna make it. 03:31 <@ChackJadson> Cool 03:31 <+Jedi_Kasra> List of stuff... 03:31 <+Jedi_Kasra> Awesome. 03:31 <+Rubedo> Indeed 03:32 < DarthRage> You will have to notify me in advance about meetings if you don't mind Kasra 03:32 <+Rubedo> Everyone will be, Rage 03:32 < DarthRage> Sweet. 03:32 <+Jedi_Kasra> No problem, I didn't notice your name on the project until yesterday, so that's no problem. 03:33 <+Jedi_Kasra> Anyway, happy to have you aboard. 03:33 < DarthRage> Give the credit to Rubedo. He got me to sign up. 03:33 <+Rubedo> Quite 03:33 <+Rubedo> lag 03:33 <+Jedi_Kasra> We also need to hunt down and exterminate villianous vandalism and whatnot... 03:34 <@ChackJadson> Are you guys going to remove inactive members? 03:34 <+Jedi_Kasra> In the minor articles, this can be a problem. 03:34 <+Jedi_Kasra> Already did. 03:34 < DarthRage> So thats next on the agenda 03:34 <@ChackJadson> K 03:34 <+Jedi_Kasra> Is Red still active? 03:34 <+Rubedo> He hasn't quit, but he's on indefinite hiatus 03:35 <+Jedi_Kasra> Yeah, I sent notices about a week and a half ago, and removed names yesterday. 03:35 <+Jedi_Kasra> I'm not gonna remove his name... 03:35 < DarthRage> Just so you know, I am so new, I haven't even gotten rights with Nuku-Nuku yet 03:35 <+Rubedo> Join the club 03:35 < DarthRage> Well, new to IRC 03:36 < DarthRage> NEXT 03:37 <+Jedi_Kasra> Soresu is doing a good job with the minor articles, such as the Un'ID'd Jedi on the Endar Spire. 03:37 <+Jedi_Kasra> We gotta get more of these done, as well as more articles from the comics. 03:37 <+Jedi_Kasra> I've got 'em all. 03:38 <+Rubedo> The Jedi was me 03:38 <+Jedi_Kasra> Right, sorry. 03:38 <+Jedi_Kasra> He was the Sith. 03:38 < DarthRage> There is a lot to do. I will try to do my best 03:38 <+Rubedo> He did the Sithy 03:38 <+Jedi_Kasra> 03:38 <+Jedi_Kasra> Sorry, Rud. 03:38 <+Jedi_Kasra> Ugh...Sorry Rub. 03:39 <+Jedi_Kasra> Borrowing someone else's computer while mine's being fixed. 03:40 <+Jedi_Kasra> Now that the CA system has been established, we can get some of these articles to have some status... 03:40 <+Rubedo> I call the weapons! 03:41 <+Jedi_Kasra> Cool beans, I'll do minor characters, though I'm willing to do others. 03:41 <+Jedi_Kasra> Just as long as it's not starships... 03:41 <+Jedi_Kasra> Nayayen has proven to do excellent work at those. 03:41 <+Rubedo> Indeed 03:41 <+Jedi_Kasra> And he 03:41 <+Jedi_Kasra> Ugh. 03:42 < DarthRage> I have all the New Essential Guides. That might help 03:42 <+Jedi_Kasra> He's also working on getting Flashpoint GA'd 03:42 <+Jedi_Kasra> The planet, mind you. 03:42 <+Jedi_Kasra> Hey TM_t, you still with us? 03:42 <+Rubedo> We should nit-pick it as part of the meeting 03:42 < DarthRage> Bastila, Revan, and Korriban are very important articles to reinstate 03:43 <+Jedi_Kasra> Yes, you know the members' project list? 03:43 < DarthRage> Wow. 45 min. gone already. 03:44 < DarthRage> and no 03:44 <+Rubedo> Korriban is pretty much done as far as this project goes. It's the other Ws that need to get their acts together 03:44 <+Jedi_Kasra> I've currently got Revan as my project, but am now inviting all WP:KOTOR members to work on it. 03:44 < DarthRage> Cool beans 03:45 <+Jedi_Kasra> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/User:Jedi_Kasra/Second_Project 03:45 < DarthRage> I will try and give it a shot 03:45 <+Jedi_Kasra> Go nuts, in a good way. 03:45 <+Jedi_Kasra> It's still my project, but you all will get credit when it is finally ready for nomming. 03:46 < DarthRage> SWEET! 03:46 <+Rubedo> It's come a long way since we started it Kasra. Great work 03:46 <+Jedi_Kasra> Rubedo and Jeth are helping me with this, but you all can, too. 03:46 <+Jedi_Kasra> I feel that Revan is too large of an article and a character for any one person to nom. 03:46 < DarthRage> It looks really good. I have a question: Since I am new, if I help, will I get credit. 03:47 <+Rubedo> If you help 03:47 <+Jedi_Kasra> Sure, I already said I'd give you credit. 03:47 < DarthRage> We should nominate it as a group. It will get all our votes. Or is that breaking rules? 03:48 <@ChackJadson> Breaking rules, to be simple 03:48 <@ChackJadson> The nominator's vote doesn't count 03:48 <+Jedi_Kasra> It's gotta be nommed by individuals. 03:48 < DarthRage> *sigh* Figures 03:50 < DarthRage> I have only helped nominate one article. and it wasn't much on my part: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tyrn_Jiton 03:50 <+Jedi_Kasra> Hmm. 03:51 <@ChackJadson> Home on the range! 03:51 < DarthRage> But I will try my best to help 03:51 <+Jedi_Kasra> Thank you, that's all I ask. 03:52 <+Jedi_Kasra> So, the current articles that are up on the GA and FA nom pages are... 03:52 <+Jedi_Kasra> Flashpoint by Nayayen. 03:52 <+Jedi_Kasra> Sith magic by Tommy. 03:53 <+Jedi_Kasra> And Ferroh, Uln, Malak, and Karath by myself. 03:54 <+Jedi_Kasra> I'm also planning on getting Revanchist nommed, after I create an expanded members section and get a couple pre-noms. 03:54 <@ChackJadson> Revanchist would be cool 03:55 <+Jedi_Kasra> Yeah, those guys kick @$$. 03:55 <+Jedi_Kasra> But I digress... 03:55 < DarthRage> Whoa. Kreia is the owner of the Ebon Hawk after Revan. What about the Exile. 03:55 <+Jedi_Kasra> Hmm. 03:55 <+Rubedo> Revan dropped it off on Malachor with Kreia 03:55 <+Jedi_Kasra> I had planned to get to that eventually. 03:55 <@Darth_Burger> Rage, can I ask a question? 03:55 <+Rubedo> Kreia then gave it to the Exile just before K2 03:56 < DarthRage> Sure. 03:56 <@Darth_Burger> Are you new? 03:56 < DarthRage> Depends on what your referring too. 03:57 <@Darth_Burger> Around here 03:57 < DarthRage> IRC, yes. Wookieepedia: no, This project: yes 03:57 <@Darth_Burger> Oh, ok 03:57 <@Darth_Burger> Thanks 03:58 <@Darth_Burger> Carry on :P 03:58 <+Jedi_Kasra> We also need to look into getting more K2 articles to FA or GA, or CA. 03:59 <+Jedi_Kasra> Tm_T's got Vossk to CA. I'm working with him so he can get it to GA. 03:59 <+Jedi_Kasra> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vossk 03:59 <+Jedi_Kasra> The Lost Jedi... 04:00 <+Jedi_Kasra> AdmirableAckbar has got Vandar as a project of his. 04:00 <+Jedi_Kasra> I hate Vrook... 04:00 < DarthRage> Yeah. He hates life and everyone around 04:01 <+Jedi_Kasra> But he needs to be done, can't believe this guy got to be not only in two games, but in Shadows and Light AND the KotOR comics... 04:02 <+Jedi_Kasra> Unfortunately, I don't know much about the cut material. 04:02 <+Jedi_Kasra>  04:03 <+Rubedo> I know a lot about it 04:04 <+Jedi_Kasra> Then that will help. 04:04 <+Rubedo> Especially the HK Plant (FUCK YOU LucasArts) 04:04 < DarthRage> Kasra. and everyone. I don't want too, but I have to go. Next time I will stay longer. I should be on IRC tomorrow. I will talk then. I will see what I can do with some of the articles. 04:04 <@Darth_Burger> see ya, Yuc 04:04 <+Jedi_Kasra> Cool, I'll try to be here... 04:05 <+Jedi_Kasra> Take care. 04:05 < DarthRage> later. 04:06 -!- DarthRage has left #WP:KOTOR [] 04:06 <+Jedi_Kasra> I had planned to talk about TOR article and their relevance to WP:TOR... 04:06 <+Jedi_Kasra> Trayus is not here, unfortunately. 04:06 <+Rubedo> If you want quick reference, http://lparchive.org/LetsPlay/KOTOR%202/ this is a great site 04:07 <+Jedi_Kasra> Could you post that on my talk page? 04:07 <+Rubedo> K 04:07 <+Jedi_Kasra> I'm using my brother's girlfriend's computer, so I don't wanna save anything on it. 04:07 <@Darth_Burger> oh, man 04:08 <+Jedi_Kasra> My computer's got something wrong with the damn screen. 04:08 <@Darth_Burger> you should snoop around and discover all her secrets 04:08 <@Darth_Burger> and then blackmail her with embarrassing incrimination 04:08 <+Jedi_Kasra> Eh, she ain't interesting. 04:08 <+Rubedo> Does it have flowers and pink ponies? 04:08 <+Jedi_Kasra> Unfortunately. 04:08 <+Rubedo> 04:09 <+Jedi_Kasra> Not the computer itself, but the screensaver is Alice in Wonderland. 04:09 <+Rubedo> New or old? 04:10 <+Jedi_Kasra> Fairly new. 04:10 <+Jedi_Kasra> Not sure by how much. 04:10 <@grunny> I think he meant the new or old Alice in Wonderland movie :P 04:10 <+Rubedo> No, the AiW movie 04:10 <+Jedi_Kasra> The old cartoon. 04:10 <+Jedi_Kasra> She has... 04:11 <@ChackJadson> How old is she? 04:11 <+Rubedo> OK then 04:11 <@ChackJadson> 46? 04:11 <+Jedi_Kasra> About 34. 04:11 <+Jedi_Kasra> I believe. 04:11 <@ChackJadson> Oh, I figured your brother was around your age :P 04:13 <+Jedi_Kasra> Anyway, when is usually a good time for meetings? 04:13 <+Jedi_Kasra> Saturday nights? 04:14 <+Rubedo> Sure, though I'm sure college will through a lot of homework at me 04:14 <+Jedi_Kasra> Me too. 04:15 <+Jedi_Kasra> Alright, from here on out, unless otherwise noted, I propose we hold our meetings on Saturdays, Anyone else object? 04:16 <@Darth_Burger> Just make sure they don't interfere with Inqmoot and AC meetings, which are also held on Saturdays 04:16 <+Jedi_Kasra> No problem. 04:17 <+Jedi_Kasra> OK, anything else that should be brought up? 04:18 <+Jedi_Kasra> Quick query, does anyone have access to the Hyperspace stories by JJM? I do, but was just wondering if anyone else did. 04:20 <+Rubedo> Nope. 04:20 <+Rubedo> Momma always tell me, eventually every onine promotion get's released for free 04:21 <+Jedi_Kasra> And we're all gonna have access when Hyperspace ends next year, right? 04:21 <+Rubedo> Maybe, maybe not 04:22 <+Rubedo> It could just go the way of everything before they "revamped" the site 04:22 <+Rubedo> Screencapping should be done for security 04:22 <+Jedi_Kasra> True, good thing I saved it in Notepad... 04:23 <+Jedi_Kasra> I think that wraps up just about everything tonight, definitely need to get another meeting together. We all good? 04:24 * ChackJadson is 04:24 <+Rubedo> This is meeting 3, right? 04:24 <+Jedi_Kasra> Cool, anyone else before I bang the unofficial hammer? 04:25 <+Rubedo> 1 under Woody, 1 under Cylka, 1 under Kasra 04:25 <@ChackJadson> Wait...Woody? 04:25 <+Jedi_Kasra> I suppose, and there'll be more, trust me. Perhaps once a month? 04:25 <@ShoelessJoe> easy there, fellers 04:25 <+Rubedo> GoodWood 04:25 <@ShoelessJoe> don't say its name 04:25 <+Jedi_Kasra> Yeah, Woody had one, I think. 04:25 <@ChackJadson> Ohhhhh...duh XD 04:25 <+Jedi_Kasra> Oh, sorry. 04:25 <@ShoelessJoe> don't mention it too much or it will come back 04:25 <@ChackJadson> Also, lol at Grae "it" 04:26 <+Jedi_Kasra> Well, if 04:26 <+Jedi_Kasra> Well, if "it" was disrupting the Wook and others users, "it" didn't deserve to be here. 04:26 <+Rubedo> Hey, now 04:27 <@ChackJadson> Well, it has been safely banned 04:27 <+Rubedo> Drop the hammer 04:27 <+Jedi_Kasra> Dropped. This meeting is adjourned, thank you all very much for attending. 04:27 <@ShoelessJoe> WOCKA WOCKA WOCKA 04:27 * ShoelessJoe was just watching 04:28 * ShoelessJoe also left to go play baseball for about half an hour there 04:28 <+Jedi_Kasra> Grae, Chack, Tope, Grunny, Rubedo, TM_T,...see you all next time. 04:28 <@ChackJadson> Later Kasra 04:28 * Darth_Burger blows kisses 04:28 <+Rubedo> Yeah, go rig another game, Joey 04:28 <+Jedi_Kasra> Win it! 04:28 <+Jedi_Kasra> See you all on the nornal channel. 04:29 <+Jedi_Kasra> "normal"