Talk:Canderous Ordo

We should make our own canon!
I think that they should call Canderous Mandalore the Uniter do to the fact that he reunited the Mandalorian clans after the Jedi Civil War.


 * ...and? Why are you telling us this?
 * Plus, please put your signature at the end of each of your messages. This can be done using 4 ~. Thanks! Jasca Ducato 18:19, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

He is a Mandalorian, not a human. Hell, the trait of a pure blooded Mandalorian is *grey skin*, and he has grey skin.
 * You'll get banned... --Master Starkeiller 17:24, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * The Mandalorian species (Taung) don't look like humans. - Sikon [ Talk ] 17:26, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Someone get this guy banned already... --Master Starkeiller 17:27, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * I've left a notice on the mainpage discussion asking for him to get banned. I'm getting sick of reverting his crap! Jasca Ducato 17:43, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Sith War
Canderous did not fight in the Sith War. It wasn't until after the Sith War that Mandalore the Ultimate recruited other species into the Mandalorian Wars.--152.163.100.195 19:33, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * He says in the game that he fought with the Mandalorians for over forty years. That would include the Sith War. Kuralyov 19:40, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

No it does not. The Mandalorian Wars took place 40 years after the Sith War. And con't forget that Canderous says, "40 of your years."

"Canderous Ordo was recruited or "converted" to Mandalore the Ultimates cause during the Mandalorian Wars." Mandalorian Article in Insider 80. Thefore that means he was not present during the Sith Wars, as the Mandalorian species did not start recruiting other species until AFTER the Sith War.

So therefore I will change it back again.--152.163.100.195 22:06, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * The article was wrong. Primary sources take precedence. Kuralyov 23:20, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

No the article is not wrong. It is the primiary source for all things Mandalorian. Canderous Ordo did not fight in the Sith War, and there is nothing to support that he did. No offical source, nothing. Canderous said, "40 of YOUR years to Revan," so that's another thing against you right there. Fact of the matter is that Mandalore the Ultimate did not start recruiting other species until the Mandalorian Wars.

Unless you have an offical source, a line about the Sith War in the game, or some other then you are wrong. You assuming that he faught in the Sith War, based on the 40 years remark, but that is all you have. I have the Article, which was plugged into the Holocron as offical source on Mandalorians.--205.188.117.5 03:15, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I am assuming that he fought in the Sith War, because it ended exactly forty years before KOTOR I, and if someone specifically says that he fought with the Mandalorians for over forty years, then there is no way he means that he joined up less than ten years previously. Kuralyov 15:08, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Here's the actual text from the article: Canderous Ordo was one of the Mandalorians who survived the fall of the Crusaders. Ordo was recruited or "converted" to Mandalore the Ultimate's cause during the Mandalorian Wars, where he was among those to serve as a battle tactician rather than a foot soldier. So you were wrong on both counts: Canderous was in the Sith War, and the article actually says that. Kuralyov 01:43, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Birthdate
Someone at TFN said that the developers posted a birth date for him; can anyone confirm this? Kuralyov 23:03, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
 * There was a rumour going around that he was 57 during KOTOR. I forget what the source was - possibly one of the websites or game guides. I do remember that it was a fairly obscure statement and not entirely official...--Sentry 08:21, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Wait, I just found it. Obsidian forums discussion topic. I was off by a year. He was in fact 58 in KOTOR and 63 circa KOTOR2 in Mandalorian Years whatever that is supposed to mean. Since Chris Avellone's original post was deleted from those boards, I cannot varify the authenticity of the information. As such, it probably should not be added to the article.--Sentry 08:46, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Why can't we contact him and ask if he posted this? - Sikon [ Talk ] 14:32, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Never mind, I found theoriginal post. Canderous/Mandalore is 63 in K2. And it also clarifies other characters' age - Brianna, Mical and Visas Marr are all 25, Mira is 23, and Atton Rand is 29-32. So it gives the following birth dates:


 * Atton - 3,983 BBY to 3,980 BBY
 * Brianna, Mical, Visas - 3,976 BBY
 * Canderous - 4,014 BBY
 * Mira - 3,974 BBY

- Sikon

[ Talk ] 15:22, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Since a Mandalorian is an adult when he'she is 13 and able to fight. And Canderous saide he was figthing for "40 of your years" that mean's that he is 53 in KOTOR, in Kotor 2 he would be four years older, so he would be 57 as Mandalore.--Revan 20:48, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Mandalore image
I think the old one was better, this one is too dark. (Has it become a tradition to upload dark and hardly comprehensible images?) - Sikon [ Talk ] 06:46, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Battle of Dantooine
"It also had an indirect effect on another battle; Esok's clan had been working for mercenary commander and ex-Sith commando Azkul when they joined the Mandalorians on Dxun. This happened shortly before the First Battle of Dantooine, where Azkul attempted to attack the Khoonda. This caused Azkul's losses on the inital stage of the battle to be worse than they could have been in the sense of having even less troops."

I'm not sure that really works, given the context of the game. What I mean is, I almost always go to Dantooine early on in the game, before Mandalore joins the party therefore Mandalore does not recruit the two Mandalorians before the Battle of Dantooine, furthermore, I'm pretty sure they don't take part anyway. Certainly they're still at the camp after the battle. This suggests to me that the Mandalorians were not actually employed by Azkul, but rather just kinda "hung round" with them. Basically, whethere or not thye join Mandalore before the Battle of Dantooine is totally user controlled, therefore it can't be established canon. So, any objections to me altering/removing this paragraph. 95 Headhunter

C.O. is a Dark-Sider!
I'm in the midst of playing KOTOR nowadays; how do I bring him into the Light Side? --68.102.193.78 03:47, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
 * You can't. Only in KOTOR II you can change your party members' alignment. Even there, getting influence on Canderous/Mandalore is extremely hard. - Sikon [ Talk ] 05:55, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Canderous mentioned in Triple Zero
He's mentioned as a great warrior by Kal Skirata and names N-11 after him. I'm going to go ahead and add that.--Ranat 23 20:24, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Canderous and Zaalbar are buggy (post-Leviathan)
On the Ebon Hawk and when they're in my party, when I double-click them, they won't talk to me anymore. They just turn their bodies toward me but no dialog screen occurs.

When they're in my party outside the Ebon Hawk, the only way I can get them to talk to me is if I switch the leaders of the party and have them select Revan. For that while, I felt like I solved the problem until I started running. They didn't follow. I don't want to have to keep manually switching leaders and have each of them catch up one at a time.

Does anyone else know about this glitch? How do I fix it? --68.102.193.78 02:28, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Once again, Wookieepedia talk pages are not meant to be used as a forum 68.102.193.78. If you want to ask these questions somewhere, join the Obsidian or Bioware message boards.--Sentry 07:35, 27 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Its never happened to me, but both Knights of the Old Republic games are extremely glitchy. The second one is far worse.--Darth Oblivion 12:11, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Dxun
The Dxun article clearly states that the Mandalorian base there was established before the Mandalorian Wars. However, this article suggests it is Canderous who sat that base up. Have I misunderstood something or is it something in which the two articles contradict each other? -

"He set up a base on Dxun, a small moon orbiting Onderon"

- this article

"After assuming the leadership of the Mandalorians, Mandalore the Ultimate made Dxun his stronghold, from which he planned his attack on the Republic"

- Dxun .

TopAce 16:47, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

He helped renovate a previous base on Dxun. This is why you had to repair the satellite dish and all that: they were old. NKSCF 16:51, 18 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm rephrasing the sentence to make it clearer that it is not Canderous that set that base up. - TopAce 16:52, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok. Glad I could help. NKSCF 16:53, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

German article
The German article on Canderous is longer and more complete than ours. Maybe we should translate it? - Sikon (Vacation) 09:15, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


 * It's possible the German writer just paraphrased, and it's a bad idea to just steal theres to cover our egos...-Leon Loire, 9/2/06 11:55p.m.


 * Hey, it isn't stealing. - Sikon 06:26, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Was Canderous evil?
Sometimes i get the impression that he is, then he's not?

what do you think?

Master Nikolce 23:36, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


 * You cannot call someone evil in a Wookieepedia article, regardless of what they did. Period. - Sikon 03:16, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Such characterizations violate the NPOV policy.– 03:59, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * In both games his alliance was pointed to dark; that is completely canonical Revan&#39;s Bane 19:06, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * hey Sikon,.....................you're evil. 70.41.241.143 17:32, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * It is already stated that he has an alignment to the Dark Side, but that doesnt mean to say that he is evil. I mean, G0-T0 was a Dark Sided character and I wouldnt call his intentions evil. Chaota Vos 03:51, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Image Use
This article either needs major expanding or the removal of an image. It hurts to look at how tight the writing is at first. I would try to edit it, but I don't know how to use images. Revan&#39;s Bane 19:06, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

How do we know Canderous is Mandalore who traveled with the Exile?
I fail to see how Canderous from KotOR is the Mandalore from KotOR II. Th only way I could see is they both start off a conversation "Yeah, what do you want?" Is there any OTHER quote from KotOR II I didn't catch that says that he is Canderous? Thanks in advance