Talk:Star Wars: Empire at War: Forces of Corruption

MC90?
What is the source for the MC90 being in this new expansion? Seems a tad bit out of place chronologically. Is this true? AdmiralNick22 18:50, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I was wondering about that also Trucidar 22:14, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
 * No answers from anyone? I am still curious as to whether the MC90 or a Mon Cal frigate are in the new expansion. I did a web search, but nothing turned up. AdmiralNick22 18:28, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I think the frigate was mentioned by a Petroglyph programmer, but not the MC90. VT-16 00:14, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Darth-Tropid a programer from Petroglyph comfirmed it isn't the MC-90.

Thrawn
So Thrawn is going to be in the Game. Not to sound paranoid, but could someone sight this. If its true, that will be awesome.
 * Cite is the word you want and go to Empire-at-war.net the forums have a thrawn comfirmed thread with a link in it. I am too lazy to put it in now.
 * I assume Zann's background in that new IGN interview is official info? If so, it's a nice tie-in with Thrawn, and for once, Thrawn is the one dumb-founded. That's pretty good for a future crime lord. I also liked how he offers "protection" to planets affected by the war:
 * "That's a nice planet you've got here. Big, open fields, lots of tourist attractions, a rich history, wonderful culture. It would be a shame if something "unfortunate" were to happen to it. Fleets get redirected... armies get reposted... things disintegrate for no reason, you know. But we want to look out for you. So for just, say, a minor sum of 20% of all planetary income.... " HAH. 8D VT-16 18:09, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Krayt-class destroyer?
Where did that name come from? VT-16 00:16, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Bossk
I can't remember seeing him anywher can someone cite him???


 * His voice can be heard in one of the movies of footage from the game. It was one with a space battle, IIRC. -- I need a name 23:05, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Ewok Handler
hi, i removed the ewok handler becuse it is a fake pic, theres not going to be an ewok handler in the game, duh Redskins 14:53, 2 September 2006 (UTC)Redskins
 * The Ewok Handler is in the game, one of the developers mentioned it on a forum. I'll try and find the link. Edit: -- I need a name 16:56, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

kk can you give me a link, cuse im pretty sure the devs wouldnt put an ewok handler in the game, but mabye its a special unit that you get through cheats like simon the killer ewok? im gonna put unconformed beside it


 * The link is the 1 in square brackets in my last post, http://pff.swrebellion.com/index.php?topic=4640.msg66318#msg66318 if that doesn't work. -- I need a name 17:10, 4 September 2006 (UTC)


 * The ewok handler is in the game. In the campaign you get it by corrupting Endor with slavery and in skirmish and galactic conquest by purchasing it from the barracks. Starwarsrulez 23:22, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Names of units wrong?
well those new pics from cain gave us alot of new info, and the people here at wooikepedia have updated this page with those units, but id like to point out that cain got a game but its a diff laguage. so for example "defiler" may not be the right name for the unit? mabye somebody could put the units through a translater? and if you dont belive me look at the pics the description is english but the names are another lanuage


 * Cain's screenshots appear to be in German, so I added very few (if any) of those units which hadn't already appeared in previous SW sources. The Defiler name, however, is from this interview with one of the developers. -- I need a name 17:17, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Jabba on cover
Did you relize Jabba's hands and body look like the 1983 kenner toy's? Look at it. -- Jabbathehuttgartogg ( Rancor pit )  13:19, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Larger Black Sun influence?
At gamestop.com, the article about Forces of Corruption mentions that you will be able to, "Form unlikely alliances with groups such as the Rebel Alliance and Black Sun (led by Prince Xizor of Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire) – all with your own greed-driven intentions in mind." Does this mean that Black Sun will have a larger influence in the new game? Will Prince Xizor be a potential hero character? Or is this information just outright inaccurate? 70.244.78.103 16:40, 1 October 2006 (UTC)


 * No, you can only control the Zann Consortium.63.199.47.153 18:52, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


 * That is not exactly true. You have a mission with Black Sun in the campaign, including Prince Xizor. --OuroborosCobra 20:49, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


 * You have a temporay truce with the rebels at kuat. 69.221.212.87 23:21, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Expansion pack
Since it's an expansion pack, will we have to buy the original Empire at War?--Herbsewell 23:02, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, but this isn't the place to ask this kind of question Jedi Dude 23:02, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Where would that be then?--Herbsewell 23:06, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Well thanks anyway. I now know I have to spend about 30 more bucks than I thought.

Demo's Out
For all who want to know, the official EaW: FoC demo has been released (October 6.) I recommend using Xfire or similar software to download it. The demo campaign is frustratingly short. I downloaded it last night via Xfire and played through the entire thing this morning. It does a good job of giving you a feel for how the Zann Consortium works but there is no free play. Still worth the download. (Sirius Shadowflame 17:10, 6 October 2006 (UTC))
 * Awesome. I usually mod my demos to make them a bit more enjoyable.-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 17:43, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Tartan Patrol Crusier
I've heard somewhere that the Zann Consortium will be able to steal ship designs from the rebels and Empire. That, and the fact that the Tartan is not on the Zann Consortium's tech tree makes me think that the Tartan is not, in fact a Zann Consortium unit.Lord Zack 20:52, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * It's a buildable unit for the Zann Consortium in the demo. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 21:09, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I was aware of this.Lord Zack 21:11, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The Zann Consortium is able to get Rebel and Imperial units through piracy missions. Lord Zack 15:12, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

IG-88 has the Hack Death Star ability?
So IG-88 can hack a Death Star and make it usable by the Zann Consortium? Sounds sweet, but a bit unbalanced. That way, the Consortium can have both the Eclipse and the Death Star. Master Secura
 * AFAIK, what happens is that he takes over the Death Star and blows it up, killing himself, the Death Star and any fleets or planets that it's near at the time. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 13:21, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. Still sounds sweet. Master Secura

It's Out
Does this mean we can take off the "future game" tag? And could someone with the game start fixing the article too? Jorrel Fraajic 13:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)


 * The game ships 24th, the game is available 25th. pablogalvan October 24th, 2006
 * No, it's out, albiet in select stores... Jorrel Fraajic 00:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

WAAAAAAAAAAAH! My Wal-Mart didn't have it and I live in a small town! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! --Star Wars: Enterprise 01:58, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Then neither will mine... oh well, guess I gotta wait a week or so. 71.31.62.247 02:21, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The game did not just ship, it came out on the 24th. I bought my copy on Tuesday the 245th. Unfortunetly, I won't be playing it much yet, I only got Empire at War a couple of days before, and I am still finishing it. --OuroborosCobra 12:29, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * While this is interestng please don't use talk pages to talk about it, it can be removed as it is out now Jedi Dude 12:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Please, for the love of God, can someone who has the game go through this article and remove anything that isn't in it? --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 15:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I have the game, but I'm bogged down right now with midterms and certain other responsibilities. I will try to get to it ASAP, which will most likely mean this weekend. I got the last of only three copies at my local GameStop yesterday, and unfortunately I've only had time to get through a couple of missions of the campaign, let alone go through all the new units. The only thing I can confirm is that the Zann Consortium is badass and hella fun to play with. However, it does require a small learning curve away from the traditional strategy employed by the Empire and Rebellion during EaW. (Sirius Shadowflame 03:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC))

Verification
Can someone with the game please verify the following for me, thanks:


 * Piett now having a land unit
 * Ackbar ditching Home One in favour of an MC30c frigate
 * The roles of Xizor and Oola
 * Royal Guards being available "everywhere"
 * What scavenger droids are
 * How the M-68 planetary magnapulse cannon that was already in the first game is being added
 * Whether the Eclipse is actually a prototype
 * How the new Hoth map differs from the original
 * What R2 and 3PO's holographic images ability is

--  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 16:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Also, if anyone adds anything about Boba Fett, Pellaeon-class Star Destroyers or MC90s, remove it. Remove it immediately. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 16:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I should be getting the Game later this evening, and I will go through it and check out things, however I must ask, Why not adding anything about Boba Fett, Pellaeon-Class SDs or MC90s ? K man2 21:59, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Me again, and I have it, and I have this to Report:
 * Ackbar has not ditched the Home One, at least not for Conquest,
 * There doesnt seem to be Scavenger Droids, if there is, ive missed them
 * Piett is staying in his ISD, no land unit for him,

havent gotten to the rest of the stuff, and im working my way there, K man2 16:17, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I hope my I answered your questions. (Sirius Shadowflame 17:14, 29 October 2006 (UTC))
 * OK, I have officially played through the entire campaign. The answers to your questions (some pulled from the instuction manual):
 * -Piett has no land unit.
 * -Akbar has the Home One throughout the entire game.
 * -Xizor gives the Consortium a mission to steal gas from Bespin. Tyber plants evidence pointing the theft to Xizor, leading to his ultimate demise. Oola is not in the game, at least I haven't seen her.
 * -Royal guards, as far as I know, only appear in the campaign as baddies you have to defeat (as well as a few generic dark jedi)
 * -I have not seen a scavenger droid in the game
 * -The megapulse cannon is now a buildable object on "outposts" which are platforms available in ground Skirmish games. They can build the following: Refineries (you build them off outposts instead of capturing them), Hutt Palace, and a unique structure depending on your faction (Repulsorlift jammer for Underworld, Uplink Station for Rebels, and the Megapulse Cannon for Empires.)
 * -The Eclipse is not a prototype. In fact, you can only access the Eclipse (save XML modding) on the last mission of the Campaign. What happens is, the Battle of Endor has just taken place and the Death Star II went boom. Zann invades Kuat (along with a Rebel attack force) where the original Eclipse is still in production (it's only half-constructed.) After you've snatched the Eclipse while the Rebels and Imperials are duking it out, both sides turn to you and you have to blast your way out of there with the Eclipse (yes, you get to shoot the superlaser a few times.) After the battle, Zann steals all the information on the ship (apparently, it has a lot of data that Zann plans to use to further his corruption) and he claims he no longer has any use for the ship, as it will pose too big of a target. It is not mention what he actually does, but I'm willing to bet he sold it back to the Empire remnants for some heavy cash.
 * -I have not tried out the Hoth map yet.
 * -I have not seen R2-D2 use holograms in combat, so I don't think they can. However, if you deploy R2-D2 and C3PO on an enemy-controlled planet, you can spy on their troop movements and see how their base is laid out. Very useful.
 * The Hoth map is slightly different. What was the Rebel base in skirmish has a small path on the side which is near what used to be the Empire base in skirmish. The small path makes for faster attacks. The Third Force shall rule! 16:28, 13 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I know this is fairly late, but I found Oola's part in FoC... it's more of a cameo than an actual role in the game. Oola is found on the opening screen (The one with Zann, Jabba, the SSD, etc. and with the "Start Game," "Options", etc. boxes) next to Jabba. However, this is the only mention or showing of her. Jorrel Fraajic 18:57, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Canon Issues
Would it be proper to mention the fact that the creation of the Zaan block conflicts with numerous (pretty much every) EU novel out there. It seems like the Zann group is kind of a Black Sun derivation.
 * Can't recall too many stories that could conflict with them in the first place. If the out-of-gameplay info keeps the Consortium as a small-scale, narrowed down group the Empire had to deal with, that will be fine. I recall an old book mentioning how the Empire only devoted a fraction of its forces to dealing with the Rebels. Guess they were otherwise occupied with other factions, like the Consortium. VT-16 15:44, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

V-wing fighters and Venator Star Destroyers
In the actual game this time? If so, which factions? :) VT-16 15:44, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
 * V-Wings are a complete unit in the game, technically, but as far as I can tell they are only in the Underworld tutorial. Venator is also in the game as a pirate ship, which means you can purchase it at a pirate space station.
 * Does that mean it is purchaseable by all three factions in the game? :) VT-16 12:26, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Interestingly enough, the Venator can only be purchased by the Consortium. The other two factions get some other pirate frigate that was in EaW. I guess the reasoning is that the Consortium already has a similar frigate (except more powerful) so they decided to give them the Venator option instead. (Sirius Shadowflame 17:58, 5 November 2006 (UTC))
 * Wow. So there's no Venator-option for the other two in any of the modes? Thanks for the info, btw. VT-16 18:07, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * In the campaign, the V-Wings can be seen defending one of the Underworld controlled planets. I have not attacked it, but you can see that they are stationed there when you corrupt it. --OuroborosCobra 21:17, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Cool! :D VT-16 21:46, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Moldy Crow
I just remembered... I was playing a skirmish game last night as the Rebellion, and called in Kyle Katarn. Lo and behold, he comes into play transported in the Moldy Crow! Does this count as an appearance? You still can't have it in Space, but it is shown in the game.

NOTE: I am not running any mods... check the game for yourself if you have any doubts. Jorrel Fraajic 20:16, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
 * He's right, as far as I can tell. Huh, I'm surprised I never noticed that before... (Sirius Shadowflame 22:56, 7 November 2006 (UTC))
 * I know... I certainly wasn't expecting it. But, when it came down, I instantly planted that in the storeholds of my brain. Jorrel Fraajic 23:22, 7 November 2006 (UTC)


 * That also happens with IG-88 and Bossk when they come down as reinforcements, and sometimes their ship actually shoots at the barracades in front of turret pads. I also have NOT made a mod to do this, honestly. and you can check it out yourself... (pablogalvan 14:38, November 8 2006)
 * Does Kyle not use the Moldy Crow as a transport in the original game? --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 19:40, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No, Kyle uses the RM-09 Alliance Shuttle in the original. THe Moldy Crow doesn't appear in that game except in coding. Also, pablogalvan is correct on the other two. Jorrel Fraajic 21:34, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Alright, I added it... Jorrel Fraajic 00:15, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * And someone removed it? Why? Jorrel Fraajic 03:21, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Since no explanation was given for the removal, I put it back. --OuroborosCobra 04:25, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Jorrel Fraajic 15:29, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Custom Maps
This has nothing to do with the article, but I believe that everyone has a right to know that ou can play custom maps in FoC. You merely put the maps in the FoC custommap folder (you'll need to do some looking around for it). However, since the maps were designed for EaW, you cannot play as the Consortium. Also, all team numbers must be one, it will automatically sort the teams. I discovered this myself. You are not to take credit for it. The Third Force shall rule! 16:31, 13 November 2006 (UTC) As for as I know, I discovered it first. And besides, whenever I play a custom map on FoC, 8 out of 8 people ask when the FoC editor came out, WHICH IT DIDN'T. NO ONE knew about it for FoC.The Third Force shall rule! 16:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * IIRC, that feature was already introduced in one of the patches for EaW, possibly the 1.05 one. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 16:42, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Not only that, but I doubt this guy was the first to "discover this", so he needs to take a chill on the whole "I discovered it, you are not to take credit" bit. Besides, who the hell cares who discovered it? --OuroborosCobra 17:06, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Missile Defense
has anyone made an article on the diamond boron missile defense satellites?JustinGann 22:51, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

End cinematic
WARNING: CONTAINS SPOILERS!

After the final campaign mission, are the soldier sith soldiers? If so, is this an appearance?
 * It's currently unknown. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 16:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Looks like they are in the xmls/megs they have a model and their entry is "Carbonite Sith". 24.215.174.33

An apperance, then?

Yes these are Sith Soliders that are frozen in Carbonite with there armor and blasters. There is also a Sith Master model he is frozen in Carbonite with his saber on a slab. I only assume that Silri will take them over and say that she is the Dark lord of the sith it should be noted that a Grand sith army was frozen for thousands for years but when they were frozon is unknown. #24.215.174.33

Section showing what is still in the game
There is a lot of info here that shows the new units but I think there should be a list of all the ships and units you can use in this game since some were removed from the game in the expansion.
 * What was removed? I can't think of anything... --OuroborosCobra 05:13, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Darth Vaders TIE Advanced X1....
 * Vader's TIE is still around in the skirmish space battles. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 12:49, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Stronger
Doesn't it seem that they made the Zann Consortium stronger than other factions?
 * Depends. It has different strengths, but also different weaknesses. I will agree with initially their ships were to powerful, but a recent patch (I have not been able to try it yet) substantially reduces the stats and firepower of Zann ships. --OuroborosCobra 16:11, 1 February 2007 (UTC)