Wookieepedia:AC/Log/2011 February 19

[15:00]		Welcome to AC Meeting 32 [15:00]		First up, we have probed articles from last meeting [15:00]		http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Acros-Krik [15:00]		which was an extended one [15:00]		Diff since probation: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=3373125 [15:01]		Diff since last meeting: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Acros-Krik&diff=3442957&oldid=3403883 [15:01]		http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Acros-Krik [15:01]		I believe Jinzler added the new info [15:01]		yeah, I think Jinzler got everything [15:01]		Tope, do you have anything since you looked at it? [15:01]		Okay [15:01]		Keep, then [15:01]		Keep. [15:01]		Keep [15:01]		Keep [15:01]		Keep. [15:02]	<CC7567>	Acros-Krik kept [15:03]	<CC7567>	Moving on to http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Malak_%28Rodian%29 [15:03]	<CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Malak_%28Rodian%29 [15:03]	<CC7567>	No change [15:03]	<Tommy9281>	Kill. [15:03]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Kill. [15:03]	<CC7567>	Kill [15:03]	<Jang|Away>	Kill [15:03]	<CC7567>	Tope? :P [15:03]	<Toprawa>	oh, sorry [15:03]	<Toprawa>	was still looking at it [15:03]	<Toprawa>	Kill [15:04]	<CC7567>	The other Malak killed. [15:04]	<CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dengless_Rinn [15:04]	<CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=3404509 [15:04]	<CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Dengless_Rinn [15:04]	<CC7567>	Again, no change [15:04]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Kill. [15:04]	<Tommy9281>	Kill. [15:04]	<CC7567>	Kill [15:04]	<Jang|Away>	killl [15:04]	<Toprawa>	Kill [15:04]	<CC7567>	Dengless Rinn killed. [15:04]	<CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jurokk [15:04]	<CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=3404510 [15:04]	<CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Jurokk [15:05]	<Toprawa>	Tranner, can you give us a quick summary of what the deal was with this again? [15:05]	<GrandMoffTranner>	I'm probably not the best person to ask, but in the end, I think the BTS says it best. [15:06]	<Toprawa>	ok, good deal [15:06]	<Toprawa>	if that's all there is, no problem [15:06]	<CC7567>	Keep [15:06]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Keep. [15:06]	<Tommy9281>	Keep. [15:06]	<Jang|Away>	Keep [15:06]	<CC7567>	Jurokk kept [15:06]	<CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_trooper_armor [15:06]	<CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Sith_trooper_armor [15:06]	<CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=3404511 [15:06]	<CC7567>	Hmm, the update tag is still up there [15:07]	<Tommy9281>	Yup [15:07]	<Toprawa>	were changes made, though [15:07]	<Toprawa>	I have no idea what's going on here [15:07]	<Toprawa>	other absentees voice similar confusion [15:07]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Appearances are out of chronological order, for one. [15:08]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Ideally, this article should be split up, since they are clearly multiple types of Sith trooper armor now. [15:08]	<Tommy9281>	Death. [15:08]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Yeah, kill this one, too. [15:08]	<Jang|Away>	Yeah, Kill [15:08]	<CC7567>	Should we just extend the probe? [15:08]	<CC7567>	These weren't in the original notes last meeting [15:09]	<Toprawa>	It appears an update was in fact made. [15:09]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Well, I'm not seeing much of a TOR update. [15:09]	<Toprawa>	Can anyone vouch for the content added? [15:09]	<Tommy9281>	No. [15:09]	<Toprawa>	the material came from "Star Wars: The Old Republic, Threat of Peace Act 1: Treaty of Coruscant" [15:09]	<CC7567>	It seems that the update tag refers to numerous TOR works [15:09]	<Toprawa>	is that what TOR is in the update template? [15:10]	<CC7567>	i.e. several Timeline items are listed in the Appearances, but I can't see the info in the article itself [15:10]	<Toprawa>	I'd say this thing is on the verge of death...but extending it once more and clarifying all of this stuff might be best. [15:10]	<GrandMoffTranner>	The only TOR info in the body is confined to one sentence under "History." [15:10]	<GrandMoffTranner>	There should be TOR info under Characteristics and in the BTS as well. [15:10]	<CC7567>	In any case, this doesn't seem to be fully updated [15:10]	<Tommy9281>	I can accept that. [15:11]	<Toprawa>	JMAS claims: # (cur | prev) 13:22, 4 January 2011 JMAS (Talk | contribs | block) (6,866 bytes) (Major update for TOR content needed) (undo) [15:11]	<GrandMoffTranner>	I still say kill. [15:11]	<Toprawa>	going on his word, there was no major update made [15:11]	<Toprawa>	and it seems like it's still missing info [15:11]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Shit, I have to go. Tope has the rest of my votes. [15:11]	<CC7567>	I vote kill, then [15:11]	|<--	GrandMoffTranner has left freenode (Quit: Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three.) [15:11]	<Jang|Away>	Kill then [15:11]	<Toprawa>	I vote kill too. [15:11]	<Tommy9281>	Why don't we detail the issues on the page [15:11]	<Tommy9281>	and extend. [15:11]	<Toprawa>	well, the original issue was never handled to begin with [15:12]	<Toprawa>	we can still note any new issues on the page [15:12]	*Jang|Away*	Tope, I have a discussion item for the meeting. :P [15:12]	<Tommy9281>	It's not really fair to bring up new issues now without giving a chance for them to be looked at [15:12]	<Tommy9281>	True [15:12]	<Toprawa>	FWIW, two absentees also vote kill [15:12]	<Tommy9281>	I'm not that gung-ho about it, [15:12]	<CC7567>	The main issue at last meeting was the TOR update, which doesn't seem to have been fixed by now [15:12]	<Toprawa>	the rest abstain [15:12]	<Toprawa>	Grunny says "Kill or Extend" [15:12]	<Tommy9281>	I'm just sayin [15:12]	<Tommy9281>	I could go either way [15:13]	<Tommy9281>	There's alot wrong [15:13]	<Tommy9281>	And for that it should be killed [15:13]	<Toprawa>	also FWIW, this is another article that's not really being monitored anymore [15:13]	<Toprawa>	the original nominator is gone [15:14]	<Jang|Away>	Unless some TOR expert wants to take it over. :P [15:14]	<Tommy9281>	You don't anticipate that much of an effort [15:14]	<Tommy9281>	? [15:14]	<Toprawa>	was that posed to myself? [15:14]	<Tommy9281>	Yes [15:14]	<Tommy9281>	I can see where you are coming from if yes [15:14]	<Toprawa>	well, I say that with the anticipation of the article not being maintained as well as it probably should [15:15]	<Tommy9281>	Right [15:15]	<Tommy9281>	So kill then. [15:15]	<CC7567>	Sith trooper armor killed [15:15]	<CC7567>	Moving on to http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nothoiin_(species) [15:15]	<CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Nothoiin_%28species%29 [15:15]	<CC7567>	Basically no change [15:15]	<Tommy9281>	Kill. [15:15]	<Jang|Away>	Kill [15:15]	<CC7567>	Kill [15:15]	<Toprawa>	Kill [15:15]	<CC7567>	Nothoiin killed. [15:15]	<CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Second_Battle_of_Korriban_(Great_Hyperspace_War) [15:16]	<Tommy9281>	Gimme a sec [15:16]	<CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Second_Battle_of_Korriban_%28Great_Hyperspace_War%29 [15:16]	<CC7567>	No change? [15:16]	<Tommy9281>	I can fix this [15:16]	<Jang|Away>	More TOR :P [15:16]	<Tommy9281>	I just haven't had the means. [15:16]	<CC7567>	Extend, then, would be best I think [15:16]	<Toprawa>	should this article also be considered, Tommy? [15:16]	<Tommy9281>	I have them now, so I can handle it if you all want to extend the probe [15:16]	<Tommy9281>	I have to look into that as well [15:16]	<Tommy9281>	Maybe [15:17]	<Tommy9281>	I can't remember offhand [15:17]	<Toprawa>	If so, article should be revised as appropriate [15:17]	<Tommy9281>	Right. [15:17]	<Toprawa>	I can extend it. [15:17]	<Toprawa>	we can note that as well [15:17]	<Tommy9281>	Cool. [15:17]	<Tommy9281>	Thanks. [15:17]	<CC7567>	Is this issue the same for other TOTJ articles? [15:17]	<Toprawa>	the same basic issue noted at the Inqmoot, yes [15:18]	<Tommy9281>	Yes [15:18]	<CC7567>	(Second Battle of Korriban extended, for the record) [15:18]	<CC7567>	Okay [15:18]	<Toprawa>	I don't know what other battle article GAs this might pertain to [15:18]	<Toprawa>	most of these, I believe, were written two, three years ago [15:18]	<Tommy9281>	Yup [15:18]	<Toprawa>	before we started paying attention to conjectural battle titles [15:18]	<CC7567>	I have an idea about that, but I think we can save it until the discussion section [15:18]	<Toprawa>	sure [15:18]	<Tommy9281>	It's a lot and there's only me so give me some time :P [15:18]	<Tommy9281>	Please [15:19]	<CC7567>	Second Battle of Korriban extended [15:19]	<Toprawa>	haha ok [15:19]	<CC7567>	Moving on to new articles [15:19]	<CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nazzar [15:19]	<Jang|Away>	Lots of redirects [15:19]	<Tommy9281>	Still? [15:20]	<Jang|Away>	Yeah, seeing one in the infobox, and a few in the body of the article. [15:20]	<Tommy9281>	easy fixes? [15:20]	<Toprawa>	redirects aren't enough to probe or kill an article [15:20]	<Toprawa> [15:20]	<Tommy9281>	Ahh [15:20]	|<--	CC7567 has left freenode (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:20]	<Toprawa>	oh, boy [15:20]	<Toprawa>	now what? :P [15:20]	<Jang|Away>	yeah, but it gets annoying. :P heh [15:20]	<Tommy9281>	Well, I never. [15:20]	-->|	CC7567 (~chatzilla@wikia/CC7567) has joined #wookieepedia-agricorps [15:20]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-agricorps +o CC7567 by chanserv [15:20]	<Tommy9281>	lol [15:21]	<Toprawa>	phew :P [15:21]	<CC7567>	Sorry about that guys, my internet farted :/ [15:21]	<CC7567>	What was the ruling on Nazzar? [15:21]	<Toprawa>	we didn't collect a vote yet [15:22]	<CC7567>	Oh, okay [15:22]	<Jang|Away>	Tommy: Yeah, they seem easy to fix. [15:22]	<Toprawa>	I'd like to give that whole article a general sprucing up [15:22]	<Toprawa>	it just looks rough around the edges [15:22]	<Toprawa>	but I suppose I can keep for now [15:22]	<Tommy9281>	lol [15:22]	<CC7567>	Are there any major issues that would require a probe? [15:22]	<Tommy9281>	I didn't see any [15:23]	<Toprawa>	not that I can see [15:23]	<CC7567>	Okay [15:23]	<CC7567>	Keep, with the understanding that someone should take an in-depth look at it soon [15:23]	<CC7567>	Jang (or did you already vote)? [15:23]	<Tommy9281>	That one was written a long time ago too, no? [15:23]	<Jang|Away>	Keep [15:23]	<Toprawa>	yeah, 2008 [15:23]	<CC7567>	Nazzar spared [15:24]	<CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jik%27Tal [15:24]	<CC7567>	possible new/missing info from recently added source Ultimate Alien Anthology. Nomination is no longer being maintained by original writer, so someone should really make an effort to look into this. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:29, January 31, 2011 (UTC) [15:24]	<CC7567>	* Checked and mentioned in the BTS; "Jik'Tal" was used as an example Jawa name in UAA. --Jinzler 20:44, January 31, 2011 (UTC) [15:24]	<CC7567>	o In that case, UAA really shouldn't even be listed as a Source list item. The character itself isn't mentioned in the book, the name "Jik'Tal" is only referenced as a common or example Jawa name (whatever the case may be). The information should be moved into the P/T with something along the lines of "Jik'Tal was a common name among Jawas" or some such, which is how we've been... [15:24]	<CC7567>	...treating other examples of articles whose character names were used as example species names. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:56, January 31, 2011 (UTC) [15:24]	<CC7567>	+ I take that back after looking at the material myself. This is a case in which his and other Jawa names are specifically referenced. Disregard. Good job, Jinzler. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:54, January 31, 2011 (UTC) [15:24]	<Toprawa>	Jinzler got that too [15:24]	<CC7567>	Spare [15:24]	<Toprawa>	Spare [15:24]	<Tommy9281>	Spare. [15:24]	<Jang|Away>	Keep [15:24]	<Tommy9281>	A Square. [15:24]	<CC7567>	Jik'Tal spared [15:24]	<CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lucia [15:25]	<CC7567>	redlink now in infobox as result of recent edit; possible reversion warranted? Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:24, February 1, 2011 (UTC) [15:25]	<CC7567>	* The born-years there are infobox-only information currently anyway, so worth adding it into Bio when killing the redlink (either by sourcing the year or removing it)? And no, not volunteering, not having those books myself. –Tm_T (Talk) 19:27, February 1, 2011 (UTC) [15:25]	<CC7567>	o Yeah, it's currently infobox-only, but I'd like Floyd to check the change as he was the original nominator. 1358 (Talk) 19:35, February 1, 2011 (UTC) [15:25]	<CC7567>	+ This should be good now. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 15:27, February 5, 2011 (UTC) [15:25]	<CC7567>	Tope, was that basically the issue? [15:25]	<Toprawa>	yeah, nothing else I can see [15:25]	<Toprawa>	except it seems like this article is 1000 words [15:25]	<Toprawa>	someone should take it to FAN [15:25]	<Tommy9281>	... [15:25]	<Tommy9281>	Perhaps. [15:26]	<Toprawa>	;) [15:26]	<CC7567>	In any case, spare [15:26]	<Toprawa>	spare [15:26]	<Tommy9281>	A square. [15:26]	<Tommy9281>	Spare. [15:26]	<Jang|Away>	Spare :P [15:26]	<CC7567>	Lucia spared [15:26]	<CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Riiken [15:26]	<CC7567>	Lacking linking and context. 1358 (Talk) 18:37, February 13, 2011 (UTC) [15:27]	<Toprawa>	Tm did some intro linking [15:27]	<CC7567>	The linking in the intro http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Riiken&diff=3445634&oldid=3324484 got fixed, but not in the bio [15:27]	<Toprawa>	but the rest of the article is unchanged [15:27]	<CC7567>	Yeah [15:27]	<Toprawa>	Probe [15:27]	<CC7567>	Probe [15:27]	<Tommy9281>	Probe. [15:27]	<Jang|Away>	probe [15:28]	<CC7567>	Riiken probed on grounds of bio linking (and perhaps a general spruce-up too) [15:28]	<CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rukil [15:28]	<CC7567>	Lacking linking and context, birthdate needs mention in bio and species + gender in the bio. Bts needs moar material such as where it was first featured and stuff. 1358 (Talk) 18:37, February 13, 2011 (UTC) [15:28]	<Toprawa>	this is what BTS's looked like in 2007 :P [15:28]	<CC7567>	Anyone see anything else besides Xd's items? [15:28]	<Toprawa>	and this was a /good/ BTS in 2007 :P [15:29]	<CC7567>	Heh :P [15:29]	<Tommy9281>	How times change :P [15:29]	<Toprawa>	I think Xd got everything [15:29]	<CC7567>	Probe [15:29]	<Tommy9281>	Probe Rukil. [15:29]	<Jang|Away>	Probe [15:29]	<Toprawa>	Probe the lobe [15:30]	<Toprawa>	don't post all of that coming up :P [15:30]	<Toprawa>	I might drown in the flood :P [15:30]	<Tommy9281>	heh [15:30]	<Jang|Away>	Spam ftw [15:30]	|<--	CC7567 has left freenode (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:30]	<Jang|Away>	XD [15:30]	<Tommy9281>	This dude lol [15:30]	<Jang|Away>	CC, your internet sucks. :P [15:31]	-->|	CC7567 (~chatzilla@wikia/CC7567) has joined #wookieepedia-agricorps [15:31]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-agricorps +o CC7567 by chanserv [15:31]	<Tommy9281>	It needs some Beano [15:31]	<Jang|Away>	heh [15:31]	<CC7567>	Probe [15:31]	<Toprawa>	you had unanimous probe total :P [15:32]	<CC7567>	Oh, okay :P [15:32]	<CC7567>	Melee probed [15:32]	<Toprawa>	oh, no [15:32]	<Jang|Away>	heh [15:32]	<CC7567>	Oh [15:32]	<CC7567>	What? :P [15:32]	<Toprawa>	I thought we were on Rukil still [15:32]	<CC7567>	Oh [15:32]	<Tommy9281>	Lol but we can go there [15:32]	<CC7567>	sorry [15:32]	<Tommy9281>	lmao [15:32]	<CC7567>	My message must not have been sent :P [15:32]	<Toprawa>	you didn't announce Rukil's outcome :P [15:32]	<Toprawa>	yeah :P [15:32]	<Jang|Away>	No, I think we're on Melee now [15:32]	<CC7567>	Kay, so Rukil probed on Xd's stuff [15:32]	<Tommy9281>	Infidels! [15:32]	<Jang|Away>	XD [15:32]	<CC7567>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Melee I'm not posting all of Tope's stuff here; look on the meeting page :P [15:33]	<Toprawa>	quite :P [15:33]	<Toprawa>	Probe [15:33]	<Tommy9281>	Probe. [15:33]	<CC7567>	Probe [15:34]	<CC7567>	Jang? [15:34]	<Jang|Away>	Probe [15:34]	<CC7567>	Melee probed [15:34]	<CC7567>	/Now/, anyone have any other articles? :P [15:34]	<Toprawa>	unless there's anything on the maintenance page [15:34]	<Toprawa>	haven't looked [15:35]	<Jang|Away>	I have a discussion item [15:35]	<Tommy9281>	? [15:36]	<Jang|Away>	I'm Jugs' messenger. Jugs has an idea to create an AC redux page, similiar to the current Inq one. [15:36]	<CC7567>	We got everything on the GA maintenance page [15:36]	<CC7567>	Moving on to discusison [15:36]	<CC7567>	*discussion [15:36]	<CC7567>	Jang, you have the floor. [15:36]	<Jang|Away>	I'm Jugs' messenger. Jugs has an idea to create an AC redux page, similiar to the current Inq one. [15:37]	<Toprawa>	Jugs proposed the idea, but we agreed it would probably be best to post it on the next meeting agenda to give everyone a chance to weigh in and discuss specifics [15:37]	<Jang|Away>	yeah, he wanted to vote for it the meeting after this one. [15:37]	<Toprawa>	So basically he just floated the idea out there. [15:37]	<CC7567>	Sounds good to me [15:38]	<Toprawa>	I have no problem with it. [15:38]	<Jang|Away>	Yeah, pretty much. [15:38]	<Jang|Away>	<Jujiggum> Anywy, I was going to bring it up at the meeting today just to get a taste for what everybody thought, and then vote on it next meeting [15:38]	<Tommy9281>	Sure [15:39]	<CC7567>	I'm not sure if we've had as many problems as the Inq has had with the FAs (our probe items have been addressed relatively simply, when they're addressed at all) [15:39]	<CC7567>	We can discuss it at next meeting, though [15:39]	<Toprawa>	yeah, that's basically what I said [15:39]	<Toprawa>	most GAs are comprehensive by nature, and any requiring a major enough update usually go to FAN anyway [15:39]	<CC7567>	Yeah [15:40]	<CC7567>	Any other comments/questions/concerns with Jon's proposal? [15:40]	<CC7567>	If not, then I have something [15:40]	<Jang|Away>	Nothing else from me [15:40]	<Tommy9281>	Go ahead CC [15:40]	<CC7567>	We were discussing earlier in the meeting how a lot of GA battle articles (and FAs too) don't always specify whether the article title is conjectural [15:41]	<Toprawa>	the old ones don't, at any rate [15:41]	<Toprawa>	I think we've been keeping up with it for new ones [15:41]	<CC7567>	I was thinking of creating a template like, except instead of verifying the actual existence of the article's subject, we would verify the battle name [15:42]	<Tommy9281>	Nah [15:42]	<CC7567>	And basically just specify it in the Bts and/or Appearances section [15:42]	<Tommy9281>	Because that would only work for TCW [15:42]	<Tommy9281>	and stuff like that [15:42]	<CC7567>	Well, the TOTJ ones seem to need it [15:42]	<Tommy9281>	where the name of the battle is often given [15:42]	<Tommy9281>	They would need it, yes [15:42]	<Toprawa>	we could always use [15:42]	<Tommy9281>	There is no way to verify that the battle was ever called that in some cases [15:42]	<Toprawa>	that sort of covers it, I guesss [15:43]	<Tommy9281>	Except for common sense I guess [15:43]	<Toprawa>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Confirm [15:43]	<Tommy9281>	For its chrono order [15:43]	|<--	CC7567 has left freenode (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:43]	<Jang|Away>	bah [15:44]	-->|	CC7567 (~chatzilla@wikia/CC7567) has joined #wookieepedia-agricorps [15:44]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-agricorps +o CC7567 by chanserv [15:45]	<Toprawa>	CC, are you proposing this as a specific AC template? [15:45]	|<--	CC7567 has left freenode (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:45]	<Jang|Away>	XD [15:46]	-->|	CC7567 (~chatzilla@wikia/CC7567) has joined #wookieepedia-agricorps [15:46]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-agricorps +o CC7567 by chanserv [15:46]	<CC7567>	Sorry guys [15:46]	<Tommy9281>	np [15:46]	<Toprawa>	no worries [15:46]	<Toprawa>	CC, are you proposing this as a specific AC template? [15:46]	<CC7567>	My internet is being stupid :/ [15:46]	<Jang|Away>	:( [15:46]	<CC7567>	Kind of; I'm proposing it for the AC, but it could also be used with the Inq [15:47]	<Toprawa>	we just want to create a general site template and it apply it to everything [15:47]	<Toprawa>	that might be easiest [15:47]	<Toprawa>	might just want* [15:47]	<CC7567>	About the concern that this would only be used for TCW battle articles: the TCW ones are all good, for the record; I've checked all of them :P [15:47]	<Tommy9281>	That's my point. [15:47]	<CC7567>	Tope: oh yeah, that's what I meant [15:47]	<Tommy9281>	They're good because the information is there. [15:47]	<CC7567>	Tommy: well, it could also be used for TOTJ articles too, since they seem to need it too [15:47]	<Toprawa>	in that case, you don't necessarily require our approval, feel free to create one :P [15:48]	<Tommy9281>	I know what I said. [15:48]	<CC7567>	Okay, sure [15:48]	<Toprawa>	I would just recommend modeling it after Template:Confirm [15:48]	<Tommy9281>	TOTJ artles, among others, are subject this indefinitely [15:48]	<Toprawa>	but rearrange the wording to specify confirmation is required for the canonical title of this battle article [15:48]	<CC7567>	Sure thing [15:48]	<Toprawa>	Tommy, I don't think you're understanding it exactly [15:49]	<Tommy9281>	? [15:49]	<Toprawa>	this template would be used in the instance that we don't if an article's title is canonically named or not [15:49]	<Toprawa>	most TOTJ battle articles, I'm assuming, are conjecture [15:49]	<Toprawa>	if we know they're conjecture, this template would not be needed [15:50]	<Toprawa>	we would just use the Conjecture template [15:50]	<Jang|Away>	Oh [15:50]	<Jang|Away>	I understand now :P [15:50]	<Tommy9281>	Yeah, I have absolutely no understanding of what you are talking about [15:50]	<Tommy9281>	Sorry [15:50]	<CC7567>	I can try and explain :P [15:50]	<Toprawa>	ok, I can explain it to you, but this really isn't necessary for the remainder of the meeting [15:50]	<Tommy9281>	lol please [15:50]	<Toprawa>	probably be best to discuss this off the record and conclude the proceedings here [15:50]	<Tommy9281>	Cool [15:50]	<CC7567>	Anyone have any other stuff to discuss? [15:51]	<Toprawa>	nope [15:51]	<Tommy9281>	Nope. [15:51]	<CC7567>	Meeting 32 is hereby adjourned.