Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations

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 * 9) &hellip;have significant information from all sources and appearances, especially a biography for character articles.
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 * 11) &hellip;be completely referenced for all available material and sources. See Sourcing for more information.
 * 12) &hellip;have all quotes and images sourced.
 * 13) &hellip;provide at least one quote on the article. A leading quote at the beginning of the article will be required only if there is quotable dialogue by or about the subject. Although quotes may be placed in the body of the article, a maximum of one quote is allowed at the beginning of each section.
 * 14) &hellip;include a "personality and traits" section on all character articles.
 * 15) &hellip;include a "powers and abilities" section on all relevant character articles, especially for Force-sensitive characters where said powers and/or abilities are stipulated.
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 * 17) &hellip;pass review by the Inquisitorius review panel.
 * 18) &hellip;counting the introduction and "Behind the scenes" material, be at least 1000 words long (not including captions, quotes, or headers, etc).

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(6 Inqs/10 Users/16 total)
Support
 * I nominated this article because it seemed very good, and hope you like it!StarWarsDude 21:56, 20 October 2007 (UTC) (You didn't nominated the article. Also, single issue voter, struck per policy.  Greyman ( Paratus ) 04:31, 27 October 2007 (UTC))


 * 1) Sikon 17:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) --Eyrezer 11:56, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Sikon, this is bloody good. I demand more FAs out of you, sonny! Thefourdotelipsis 02:38, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Per 4dot. Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 02:52, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Lord Hydronium 12:24, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 6)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:24, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Slash Z 19:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC) (single issue voter, struck per policy.  Greyman ( Paratus ))
 * 1) Cull Tremayne 01:39, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) -- Dark Lord Xander  ( Embrace The Dark Side! )[[Image:MandalorianSymbol.jpg|20px]] 03:45, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Very nice. -- Ozzel 16:50, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Per Ozzel.  Victor  ( talk ) 00:30, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Easily the most impressive article on an entire comic series I've seen. Most other pages are stubs, but this one is the real deal. - ThrawnRocks 19:15, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) So what's it gonna take to get this from a nom to FA status? - JMAS 00:47, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Objections resolved.  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 15:03, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) Count it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:14, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) Nice work.  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 15:46, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) I think it's a very good article and deserves this nomination. User:Kilson 17:17, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) A few things:
 * 2) * The infobox image (Image:Kotor.jpg) has a Dark Horse watermark is generally low quality. Replace this.
 * 3) ** Replaced. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) * The introduction needs a good rewrite. Things such as Dark Horse's other current Star Wars comics and the chronology of the series are best discussed in other sections.
 * 5) ** Addressed the issues you mentioned - tell me if something is still wrong. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) * There's a few punctuation errors throughout the article: several instances of punctuation being placed outside quotation marks, and em dashes are erroneously surrounded by spaces.
 * 7) ** Corrected em dashes. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) * The "2007: Days/Knights" subsection of "Production" has several two-sentence paragraphs. Rewrite if possible. Why is the section given the affix of "Days/Knights," when the 2006 section has no affix at all?
 * 9) ** Explained on IRC, also see below. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) * The section "Core characters" should either cover only the core characters, or be renamed to "Major characters" or something similar.
 * 11) ** Renamed to just "Characters". - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * The thin paragraph issue applies to most of the "Plot" section as well, particularly the subsections "Commencement" and "Days of Fear, Nights of Anger."
 * 13) ** Expanded small paragraphs. - Sikon 14:56, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) * There's no reception section, and no mention of sales figures.
 * --Imperialles 17:50, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) ** Added. - Sikon 14:56, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) The core characters section needs to be wookified. At the very least, it needs a grammar cleanup.  Chack Jadson  Talk  20:09, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Image:Kotorteam.jpg needs to be properly sourced with the Information template. --Eyrezer 23:07, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) * Done. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) From the Grey of Man:
 * 3) * Image:Kotor.jpg is currently tagged with . Please rectify if this is going to be used.
 * 4) ** Deleted. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) * The infobox picture isn't really the best one that is out there, though I can understand why it was chosen. Maybe the following one, which I've linked to, would be better enjoyed by the community? Especially since it has full color. Image:Kotorhandbookcoverandtitle.jpg, just a suggestion.
 * 6) ** Done. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) * None of the character information in the "Core character" section has any reference tags. Please source info from the necessary appearances/sources.
 * 8) * What's the source for "&hellip;abbreviated as KotOR&hellip;"? I know it is often referred to as that around here, but is there a source for it being used in the comics/interviews/media etc.?
 * 9) ** Sourced. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) * The caption ("Dark Horse promotional image and preliminary issue 0 cover") is not needed below the picture in the infobox.
 * 11) ** Removed. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * Each entry in the Core Characters section needs to be expanded, IMO; and as already pointed out, needs to be cleaned up.
 * 13) ** See below about expansion. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) * It may have been intentional, but Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 0: Crossroads is not listed, along with the other comics, in the "Media" section. All of the other comics which were collected into the TPB Commencement are listed, and Crossroads was collected in it as well&mdash;please include.
 * 15) ** It's there, see below. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) * Please completely source the "Continuity" section&mdash;only a few paragraphs and/or pieces of information are currently sourced. Even though some of the information may be obvious, it should still be sourced to comply with FAN standards.
 * 17) ** Sourced. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) *** Better, but the first two paragraphs still need ref tags. The first paragraph needs at least one, if not more, ref tags of where the KotOR comics reference the TOTJ comics and the KOTOR games. The second paragraph simply needs a ref tag from either the Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic video game or even the Strategy Guide since it details some of the information listed. Using both wouldn't be opposed to either. Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 19) ****Reworded the first paragraph and restructured the section, so that the paragraph wouldn't require a reference (hopefully). As for the second, it openly says "in the game" and provides a link to said game, so I don't think it needs a reference - the game is established as the source for this information in the text itself, and I'm not a fan of having footnotes for the sake of them. - Sikon 12:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) *****Neither am I a fan of having footnotes for the sake of having them, if it can be avoided&mdash;and your re-wording of that specific part clears up my objection, thanks. Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:24, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 21) * Formatting for the "Notes and references" section should be a scroll box at the very least.
 * 22) ** Done. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 23) * Once the writing objections listed by Imp, Chack, and myself have been looked after, I'll go through the actual writing of the article. I don't see any point in doing it before hand.
 * 24) * In the "Continuity" section, the first sentence says "Set in the years 3,964 BBY and 3,963 BBY, at a midpoint between Tales of the Jedi and the video games&hellip;". It needs to be made clear that that the video games are Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic and Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords, as right now a wayward reader could mistake it for all the video games.  Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 25) ** Addressed. - Sikon 12:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 26) * I feel that introduction should make some mention about the fan reception of the series as well as any other relevant Real World impacts it has had&mdash;especially since it's an article about the overall series. Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 27) ** There haven't been any significant real-world impacts, to my knowledge, besides Vector &mdash; which I have now mentioned in the intro. - Sikon 12:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 28) **An interesting FAN which I could see becoming the template for future projects like it. Greyman ( Paratus ) 00:57, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 29) From the beaker of Lord Hydronium:
 * 30) * Expand on a few things in "Plot Summary", particularly the second paragraph of "Commencement". First, some explanation of the knighting ceremony, and second, a few more details on the vision, like the figure you mention later.
 * 31) ** Expanded the Commencement section to clarify this. - Sikon 12:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 32) * Nothing about Vector.
 * 33) ** Added a section about Vector and mentioned it in the intro. - Sikon 12:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 34) *No other complaints here. - Lord Hydronium 09:16, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 35) From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * 36) * Source handbook release.
 * 37) ** Done. - Sikon 12:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 38) * Copyedit plot summary
 * 39) **Done. Jorrel Fraajic 15:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 40) * This is not the easiest of objections to resolve, but I'd like the prose in the plot summaries to be a little better. Some of the word choices don't seem to quite line up- I think a "misled" in there is kind of awkward. Another example is the way the last sentence of Flashpoint reads- it doesn't seem to flow. Also, a bit more detail in some parts, e.g. "After Zayne learned this." What did he learn- that the banker was his father? That the banker had been captured? Both?
 * 41) **Clarified/prose cleaned up a bit. Jorrel Fraajic 15:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 42) * Maybe it's because it has been freshly released/not fully released, but the Daze of Hate section is abominably small and hard to read/follow.
 * 43) ** Expanded with #20 events and restructured. - Sikon 12:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 44) * This is definitely not a hard and fast rule, but what about having an authors/pencillers/creators section on the page? Ozzel's SOTE soundtrack FA has a paragraph about McNeely and some of his background work, and I think that an entire series merits a section on the creators and their background, at least briefly.
 * 45) * Disambig link to other KotOR products needed.
 * 46) **Added. - Sikon 12:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 47) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating Day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 18:24, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 48) **Some objections addressed. Not sure what to do about your last, though. Jorrel Fraajic 15:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 49) ***Have a good day, of course. The pencillers mention was already in there and though I'd prefer more detail on their work, it's not a hard and fast rule. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 15:03, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 50) From the lair of Hobbes15
 * 51) * "Vision on the rogue moon"? What is this (the Lucien Draay section) ? As it isn't mentioned before, some mention should go in Draay's bio.
 * 52) **Added sentence describing when he had the vision, and the results of. Jorrel Fraajic 15:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 53) *Does Characters need to be referenced? At the very least, the final paragraph of each character should be referenced, if not the main information area, IMO.
 * 54) **Probably does need to be reffed. Not quite sure how to do it, though. Jorrel Fraajic 15:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 55) ***Reffed. Jorrel Fraajic
 * 56) * Per Ataru on the Plot Summary prose. ..."standing right there with lightsabers drawn", "misled"... the prose could most definitely be improved.
 * 57) **Done. Jorrel Fraajic 15:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 58) ***Meh... it could still use improvement, but I'll try and work on that myself it I get time.
 * 59) * "the operation that eventually results in Arven being freed"? What operation? Some detail about it should be added.
 * 60) **Detail added. Jorrel Fraajic 15:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 61) ***No it hasn't been. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 19:12, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 62) ****Now it has. I hope it's enough to satisfy you. Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 09:40, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 63) *****Just what I was looking for. Good job. Hobbes ( Tiger's Lair ) 03:02, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 64) * Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 04:17, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 65) **Objections (aside from the character reffing thing) addressed. Jorrel Fraajic 15:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 66) ***All objections addressed now. Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 09:40, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 67) ****Es good. Thanks for addressing them even though it wasn't your nom, Jorrel. Hobbes ( Tiger's Lair ) 03:02, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 68) The infobox needs to be sourced. --Imperialles 15:59, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 69) *Sourced. Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 16:28, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 70) No sourcing in the intro. Stick it someplace else. Prob the BTS. Toprawa and Ralltiir 08:43, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 71) *While that is normally true, there are rare instances where this is accepted, such as this article. As seen here, "If, of course, the information does not appear elsewhere in the article, then it is acceptable to source it in the introduction." As such, it has been openly accepted for this article by the Inqs that have already voted support here. Also, for this type of article, Sikon has decided against inserting a BtS due to the OOU nature of the vast majority of the article's content. Greyman ( Paratus ) 13:26, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Image:Zaynescoundrel.jpg&mdash;is this image fanon or what? If so, remove. --Imperialles 09:00, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) *Image issue dealt with. Also note the change of Marn's image (which was under the same issues Zayne's image was). Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 09:40, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * Nominated on Sikon's behalf per request on IRC. -- [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|40px]] dmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 17:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Confirming the request on IRC. :) Plus some responses:
 * Sourced the "KotOR" abbreviation.
 * Replaced infobox picture per Greyman's suggestion, deleted Image:Kotor.jpg. Removed caption.
 * Removed references to other DH titles and specific years from the intro. Tell me if anything else needs to be done about it.
 * As I told Imp on IRC, 2007 has the "Days/Knights" subtitle because that's how Dark Horse refers to that meta-arc. There was no codename for 2006, hence no subtitle.
 * Renamed "Core characters" to just "Characters". But what is meant by "wookifying" this section? I'm not sure it needs to be expanded, either - it's an article about the overall series, so I tried to be as brief and concise as possible when describing the individual plot summaries and characters. Entries on individual arcs may have longer descriptions.
 * I still feel that the character entries should be longer, but I understand your reasoning and struck that particular objection. Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Removed spaces around mdashes.
 * Reception section: I'll add it soon.
 * Thin paragraphs: I'll expand them.
 * Sourced the unsourced part of the "Continuity" section. Things without a reference footnote are sourced in-text - for example, "Alek references the Great Sith War in Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 0: Crossroads."
 * Issue 0: Crossroads is already in the Media section, just out-of-order. Fourdot suggested listing everything by release date, and #0 was released after #1 and #2.
 * Put "Notes and references" in a scroll box, although I'm personally not a big fan of them.
 * Templatized the description for Image:Kotorteam.jpg.
 * - Sikon 07:48, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Could someone strike Slash Z's vote, as he has no edits on the main namespace? Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:22, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Not a opposed vote here, but I tried previewing the article with all the character images on the right instead of on the left, and I think the article looks better that way. Anybody else want to take look at it that way and see if they agree? - JMAS 18:56, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

(1 Inq/2 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) I put a lot of work into this one; I think it's accurate, interesting, concise and complete. I would definitely welcome any criticisms or suggestions, but I definitely think it is worthy of being a featured article. &mdash; Colinmcev Talk 03:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Thefourdotelipsis 04:27, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  19:08, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Object Comments
 * 1) Just glanced at it, but the Personality and Traits should be at the end of the article, you know. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 04:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *Fixed that.--Colinmcev 18:30, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Would be nice to have a BTS (Behind the scenes) section, covering stuff like who created the character, where he first appeared, any continuity errors, etc. Also, this would be a good place to include one of those wacky Galaxies pics. -- Ozzel 02:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) *Added both. Thanks for the great suggestions!--Colinmcev 01:35, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) From the Thoroughly Pounded Desk of Four Dot:
 * 6) * There's a little bit of POV in the intro, and "He betrayed Rogue Squadron during a covert mission and attempted to kill Corran Horn, but he was shot and killed by his lover, Inyri Forge." could probably be rephrased.
 * 7) **I reworked it a litlte bit and removed what I thought was the POV. If there is any left, or if you think it needs further rephrasing, please let me know or feel free to tweak it.--Colinmcev 01:27, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) * "Zekka Thyne served on Black Sun" - Sounds dangerous. I think he just "served Black Sun", but I think "joined the Black Sun syndicate" would be better.
 * 9) **I agree! Fixed that.--Colinmcev 01:28, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) * Just a general observation: There are a lot of unsightly "thin" paragraphs. Of course, you can "cheat" on this one and just merge a couple of the offending paragraphs together.
 * 11) **This is a bad habit of mine; in real life, I'm a reporter, and in newspaper articles small paragraphs are required. lol. I tightened them up a bit, but if you still think there are paragraphs that are too thin, please point out which ones and I'll make further fixes.--Colinmcev 01:38, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * Another observation: The end of every paragraph containing In-universe information should have a relevant citation.
 * 13) **Fixed that.--Colinmcev 01:41, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) * "eliminate single targets and slaughtering informers and even their families." - This could be worded better.
 * 15) **Tightened the sentence altogether, I think it's better now.--Colinmcev 01:42, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) * "In 7 BBY, Fliry Vorru, then a Moff in charge of the Corellian Sector, was sent to Kessel after being framed by Prince Xizor. This allowed Xizor to establish Zekka Thyne as his chief associate in Corellia." - How so? This might need more clarification.
 * 17) **Done.--Colinmcev 01:43, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) * "However, he was well protected by his heavily protected fortress" - One of the "protected"'s needs to be replaced, methinks.
 * 19) **Yeesh, what a lame mistake. Fixed that.--Colinmcev 01:43, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) * Even though you link to cutter, you might want to briefly explain what it is.
 * 21) **Done.--Colinmcev 01:44, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 22) * Take the image of the Bothan Thyne out of the bio and put it in the BtS. Also, assume that they're separate characters. I cite Chertyl Ruluwoor as a precedent.
 * 23) **I don't necessarily agree that the SWG Thyne should be a seperate character since both are affiliated with Black Sun and are clearly meant to be one and the same; maybe it's just me, but I think just noting the Bothan discrepency is enough. But I did move the pic.--Colinmcev 01:49, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 24) * "Although Loor attended the meeting during which the plan was formed, he started a confrontation with Corran Horn that resulted in Fliry Vorru punching him in his abdomen injury and smashing his head against the table." - Eh? You might have gotten you characters a bit mixed up there.
 * 25) **Yeah, that "Loor" should be a "Thyne." Fixed it.--Colinmcev 01:50, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 26) * The preceding sentence also starts with "Although", which doesn't flow well.
 * 27) **Fixed that and redid much of the sentence altogether.--Colinmcev 01:52, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 28) * "With this, Zekka Thyne died." - Too short a sentence, but I could be wrong. You'll want to integrate it into the preceding paragraph, though.
 * 29) **I think the short sentence works for effect, but I agree that it is WAY too short as an individual paragraph. Merged it with the previous one.--Colinmcev 01:53, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 30) * Mention who the other spy was in the Post-death section.
 * 31) **Done.--Colinmcev 01:55, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 32) *Best of luck with all that. It might take a bit of work, but I think there's some good foundation here. Thefourdotelipsis 09:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 33) **If there's anything else, please don't hesitate to let me know. Thanks for the thorough look!--Colinmcev 01:56, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, first things first: Don't strike other people's objections. It's frowned upon. However, you got most of them. I still have an issue with the paragraph spacing. Basically, in the first half of the article, merge every pair of paragraphs. It just looks a lot neater and, well, meatier. Thefourdotelipsis 23:27, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) **I'm really sorry about that, I've never nominated an article before so I didn't really know the proper procedure. I tightened the paragraphs a bit, let me know if you think that looks better.--Colinmcev 23:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) ***That's OK, you know now. Good work with this though. It looks fine to me now. Thefourdotelipsis 04:27, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Got some things here:
 * 4) * In the Appointment to Corellia section, it first says the Moff was framed by Xizor. Then it later syas it is widely believed he was framed. That sounds reptitive and contradicts the above info somewhat.
 * 5) **Actually, Moff Fliry Vorru was definitely framed, and accordingly that is definitively stated. But the person who is noted as "widely believed" to have been framed is the previous owner of the fortress. That isn't Vorru, it's someone else who is never identified in any of the source material. So the two references are not related, and I don't think there's an error there.--Colinmcev 01:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) * Also, the protected fortress thing that Fourdot mentioned earlier needs fixing.
 * 7) **Right you are. Fixed that.--Colinmcev 01:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) * In the Spy for Lorr section, the last paragraph needs to be ref'ed.
 * 9) **Done.--Colinmcev 01:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) * In the Imperial scheme section, the second-to-last paragraph needs to be rephrased. It's too repetitive.
 * 11) **Good call. I think I fixed it, but if you still think it needs work, let me know or go ahead and rephrase it.--Colinmcev 02:00, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * The last paragraph int hat section needs to be sourced.
 * 13) **Done.--Colinmcev 02:00, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) * In the Imprisonment paragraph, the "Maw" needs to be unlinked.
 * 15) **OK..--Colinmcev 02:02, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) * The first paragraph needs to be sourced too.
 * 17) **Fixed it.--Colinmcev 02:02, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) * In Presence on Coruscant, the first paragraph needs to be rephraes as it sounds repetitive.
 * 19) **I agree, big time. Fixed it.--Colinmcev 02:04, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) * Also, change execute to shoot.
 * 21) **To be honest, I don't think this change is entirely necessary, but I made it anyway.--Colinmcev 02:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 22) * In the Death section, "this new" should be "this news".
 * 23) **Another dumb mistake. Fixed.--Colinmcev 02:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 24) * In P&T, the word "Wookiee" needs to be unlinked. Also, rearrange it so it flows, going from his perosnality to his appearance than his tastes, not jumping around.
 * 25) **I think it already is that way; the first paragraph is personality, then we have three paragraphs of appearance, and the last one about his art taste. If this isn't acceptable, can you give me some further clarification on how it could be rearranged?--Colinmcev 02:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 26) * And everything from Release from Kessel to Post-death needs sourcing.
 * 27) **Done.--Colinmcev 02:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 28) *Good luck.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 19:24, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 29) **Thanks again, I really appreciate the thoroughness!--Colinmcev 02:09, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 30) And now for something completely similar:
 * 31) * Source the rest of the infobox.
 * 32) **Is it OK the way it is now?--Colinmcev 00:35, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 33) * There's a few instances of redundant ref tags. If the whole paragraph is from the same source it only needs one ref at the end.
 * 34) **Removed those. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 01:34, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 35) *Include information about his quest in Galaxies.
 * 36) **This is the only one I really can't fix myself. I don't have Galaxies, and I've scoured the Net for info on his quests, but I can't find any. Maybe someone else can help me out here? I'd hate to see the whole article snagged just because of this...--Colinmcev 00:36, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 37) * Intro: "Although rumored to be the heir-apparent to Xizor's criminal organization..." Rumoured by who? This needs to be mentioned later in the article and sourced.
 * 38) **Done--Colinmcev 00:36, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 39) * Imperial scheme and capture: Source the first paragraph.
 * 40) **Done--Colinmcev 00:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 41) * Imprisonment on Kessel: "a spicer term used to describe close enough to a person that they could be trusted with cutting their spice" Can this be reworded?
 * 42) **Done--Colinmcev 00:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 43) * Presence on Coruscant: Needs something to lead into second paragraph, even if it's just "Some time later..." As it is, it feels disjointed.
 * 44) **Done--Colinmcev 00:38, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 45) * Presence on Coruscant: Second paragraph has a sentence starting with "but". Kill it if possible.
 * 46) **Would changing it to However be cheating? If so, I'll reword.--Colinmcev 00:36, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 47) * Presence on Coruscant: A brief mention of how the Rogues got involved in the Imperial raid would not go amiss.
 * 48) **Done--Colinmcev 00:36, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 49) * Personality and traits: "one massive black eye that was slowly fading" is a quote from the narrative, not something in-universe. Lose the quotes and make it something like "Corran Horn thought that it gave the impression..." Green Tentacle (Talk) 19:58, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 50) **Done--Colinmcev 00:38, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 51) From the lair of Hobbes15
 * 52) * Per GT on the infobox.
 * 53) **Is it good the way it is now?--Colinmcev 00:38, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 54) ***All the data must be ref'd, not just selective bits.
 * 55) ****Ok, didn't realize how much has to be referenced. I did that.--Colinmcev
 * 56) *Mention somewhere in the bio that he was born on Corellia, if this can be referenced.
 * 57) **It never says in either source material whether he was born there or not, so I can't really put it in.--Colinmcev 00:39, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 58) ***Than where do we get that in the infobox? If it isn't referenced, it shouldn't be in his article at all. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 59) ****Well, the Corellia reference in the infobox was here before I ever touched the article. Even though it's never stated that he was born in Corellia, I always just thought it would be OK there since his earliest appearance (Side Trip) have him in Corellia, and that was where he was thriving at the high point of his career and lived most of his life. But what do you think, should we take that out altogether or leave it? --Colinmcev
 * 60) *****I'm all right with it staying, but make a note in the article or a footnote that it isn't necessarily Thyne's place of birth, but it is where he spends most of his life. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 06:11, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 61) ******I put this in the end of the first section. Thanks for the guidance.--Colinmcev 00:37, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 62) * Needs a mention of how Black Sun met its downfall.
 * 63) **Did that, and cited Shadow of the Empire for it.--Colinmcev 00:44, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 64) * The last sentence of Spy for Kirtan Loor seems a little out of place. Perhaps place it after the segment about the destruction (sort of) of Black Sun.
 * 65) **I just dropped it altogether; I guess it wasn't really necessary.--Colinmcev 00:44, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 66) * Ref the end of the first paragraph of 1.4.
 * 67) **Done--Colinmcev 00:44, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 68) * The last bit of 1.4 that says Thrawn captured Thyne is a bit unclear. I thought it said the Horns captured him earlier; in addition, a little mention on what happened after Hal shot him would be nice.
 * 69) **Done--Colinmcev 00:44, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 70) ***I don't see any difference. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 71) ****Oops, my mistake. I made some changes, how does it look now? --Colinmcev
 * 72) * "to describe close enough to a person that they could be trusted with cutting their spice"? This is unclear.
 * 73) **Reworded it.--Colinmcev 00:45, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 74) * "Myda wanted to take the offer, Kassar insisted that Inyri must make her own decision, and even expressed hope that Inyri might be able to change Thyne for the better." Who the heck are are Myda and Kassar?
 * 75) **I double checked, but there was already a first reference to them in there.--Colinmcev 00:45, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 76) ***My mistake. Struck. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 77) * The first sentence of Presence on Coruscant makes no sense. When is Thyne talking to Horn? It is unclear what's happening there. All it says is that Thyne was about to be released, then next thing you know, he's psychologically attacking Horn.
 * 78) **Fixed this up.--Colinmcev 00:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 79) * "to look back and check on Inyri"? This could be reworded and made much clearer and more interesting than it is at the moment.
 * 80) **Reworded.--Colinmcev 00:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 81) * Mention why Loor feared Horn would try to kill him in 1.8.
 * 82) **Done.--Colinmcev 00:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 83) * Rogue Squadron Betrayal and Death is an unclear headline. Who's doing the betraying&mdash; Thyne or the Rogues?
 * 84) **Just changed it to Death. Seems easier and it still works.--Colinmcev 00:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 85) * First paragraph of this section is unclear and should be slightly reworded.
 * 86) **Done.--Colinmcev 00:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 87) * "Thyne instead told him there was at least one other spy in Rogue Squadron, although Thyne did not know that Rogue Squadron pilot Erisi Dlarit was the spy." This doesn't make sense, and Rogue Squadron is over-used in the sentence.
 * 88) **Clarified a bit.--Colinmcev 00:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 89) * In Post-death, the article makes it seem like Horn died in his confrontation with Celchu, not in the battle following it.
 * 90) **Fixed.--Colinmcev 00:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 91) * In the P&T, could the three paragraphs regarding his appearance be merged into one?
 * 92) **Done.--Colinmcev 00:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 93) * Is it specifically said in Side Trip that Thyne's taste in art was considered questionable by most? If not, it needs a seperate reference.
 * 94) **Clarified this.--Colinmcev 00:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 95) *Do you have a reference for the fact that Thyne was only referenced in the parts of the story written by Stackpole (BTS)?
 * 96) **No, it's a fact but I don't have a source, he's just the only author to have written him. How should I handle this? Drop the fact altogether? I think it's an interesting note so it would be a shame, but if that's how it would have to go I'd be fine with it.--Colinmcev 00:47, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 97) ***I checked this in Side Trip&mdash; it's divided into four parts, which I didn't know, and Thyne is only in Stackpole's parts. It's fine. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * If, as GT says, he has a specific role in Galaxies beyond a mere appearance, it does need to be mentioned.
 * 1) **See above. I need help with this one because I don't have SWG.--Colinmcev 00:47, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) ***I'm afraid I don't either, so I can't do much about it. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) *And that's all. Good luck with those. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 01:34, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) From the ghostly desk of Atarumaster88
 * 5) *"Thyne's personal office also contained a secret escape panel that led to a cave, where he kept secret or sensitive cargo Thyne obtained the deed to the fortress after the previous owner was sent to Kessel on spice smuggling charges". Is there supposed to be a period here or something else?
 * 6) *"However, Thrawn encountered disguised CorSec investigators Corran and Hal Horn he modified his plan to allow the Horns to capture Thyne." Again, I think a word or a punctuation mark is missing.
 * 7) *Source or remove congenitally hairless speculation.
 * 8) *Source BTS.
 * 9) **Aside from assuming he has no Bothan genes, it looks fine. -- Ozzel 05:44, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) *Could use some supporting pictures (i.e. of Kirtan Loor, or of Horn) for variety's sake. Not a hard and fast objection.
 * 11) *Physical appearance in the P&T section should be distributed elsewhere. Like the intro. I've (and I've discussed this with other Inqs) always understood the "traits" in Personality and Traits to be character traits, given that we have eschewed such sections in previous noms.
 * 12) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating Day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:14, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 13) Blah blah blah
 * 14) *How did Thyne become a Vigo? Was he just appointed one as soon as he joined or are there no details? Either way, it might be worth mentioning. Also, is Thyne a Vigo? Or was he just a high-ranking Black Sun member? I ask only because we seem to know who all nine of Xizor's vigos as of SotE are, and he's not included. If he was just replaced as of that time, that too needs mentioning.
 * 15) *Although you already reworded it, I think, "Horn was saved when Thyne was shot to death by his lover, Inyri Forge" still needs to be reworded. As it reads now, it's hard to tell if Forge is Zekka's lover or Corran's.
 * 16) *Disguised as the bounty hunter Jodo Kast, Thrawn and the crew traveled to Corellia, under the guise that they were delivering unknown cargo to Borbor Crisk. In fact, Thrawn intentionally allowed his de facto partners to be captured, posing as a hired gun for Thyne. Who was Thrawn's crew? Stormtroopers? Just random mercs? This whole part needs further clarification. As it's written now I'm confused as to why letting his crew get captured would help his cause.
 * 17) *However, Thrawn encountered disguised CorSec investigators Corran and Hal Horn he modified his plan to allow the Horns to capture Thyne. Should this be, "However, when Thrawn..."? Either that or broken up into two sentences.
 * 18) *Most of Thyne's soldiers were not present at the fortress at the time of the assault because Thrawn had arranged for them to pick up the cargo. Hmm? What cargo? The blasters? I thought those were for Crisk, Thyne's nemesis?
 * 19) *Doole informed them that Inyri, sister of slain Rogue Squadron pilot Lujayne, was to be released along with Thyne. Forge was a prisoner as well? I thought she was just the daughter of two prison rehabilitators.
 * 20) *Several members of Rogue Squadron were present at the time, having been captured by Asyr Sei'lar. This might be just ignorance, but wasn't Asyr part of Rogue Squadron? Why was she capturing them? Just a minor mention could be helpful.
 * 21) *If "Patches" was only used as a derogatory nickname and not one that he himself used, it might be better to remove it from the infobox.
 * 22) *Not really an objection, but could a quote page be formed? It's always such a good supplement.
 * 23) *I kind of disagree with moving his odd physical traits elsewhere, but if it has to be done, it might be worth adding an "Early Life" section where you can mention his parents (their differing races that is) alongside his odd physical description.
 * 24) *Any chance that his Galaxies stuff is on their site? Everything else is fine. Nice job. Cull Tremayne 00:43, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I finally got to read Side Trip and I expanded the section with a whole lot of info from that. As that was the final major source for Zekka, I think this article is pretty much as complete as possible.--Colinmcev 01:35, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Colinmcev, I uncrossed Chack's objections, because, after checking the history, I realized that he didn't cross them out, you did. For future reference, the way these things work is that you make a comment when you've addressed an objection, the objecting user looks at the article, checks to see if the objection is fixed to his/her satisfaction, and then crosses it off. If they still see a problem, they'll point it out. Thank you, and good work with the objections ;). Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 02:24, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm sorry about that; as I said about, I've never nominated an article before so I didn't really know the proper procedure. I was basically crossing them off as I fixed them, but I'll make sure that doesn't happen again.--Colinmcev 23:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It's fine. I'll try to look at the article later today.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 10:30, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * As I noted about, I need some help with Thyne's SWG quest. I don't have Galaxies and I can't find it anywhere online. Can someone else add this info for me? I think it would be a true shame if this couldn't become featured just because this is missing.--Colinmcev 00:47, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Would be nice if you could work in this image somewhere. Aside from the Galaxies thing, it looks good. -- Ozzel 07:54, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I added that picture; it was good to get another pic in there! As for the Galaxies thing, I'm still stuck on that for right now. Can anyone help? I hate to see it stuck because of this...--Colinmcev 00:48, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey Colinmcev, try asking some people to review this for you. It's got potential, but right now doesn't have many votes.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 15:33, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

(5 Inqs/4 Users/9 Total)
Support Oppose Comments
 * 1) Best. Villain. Ever. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 13:25, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Thefourdotelipsis 23:00, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Yay Troff! Boo Fake Kadann! --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 00:36, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Guiltiest, heh.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 22:12, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Dark votings Enochf 07:10, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Green Tentacle (Talk) 23:43, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 7)  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 05:06, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) Go to Australia, all ready. &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 05:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) Hobbes ( Tiger's Lair ) 01:21, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think you can be Grand Moff of a single planet. He's likely the Grand Moff of the sector that contains Kessel. Thefourdotelipsis 06:28, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Changed. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 11:54, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * You introduce Trioculus twice. Thefourdotelipsis 07:01, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Whoops. Fixed --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 11:54, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Would it be possible to work in a mention of his relationship with Quorl Matrin? I'd think it at least slightly noteworthy that this Imperial slimeball has a buddy who does impersonations for his amusement and calls him "Troff." (Gamer 1, page 59) -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 04:08, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Added. "Troff." Wow. If only someone called him "Berty." --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 20:58, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * How this relationship ultimately played out is unknown, though Matrin kept Hissa informed throughout the expedition to Stenos. Um, what? How about, "Quorl was ultimately ripped to shreds by the Stenax, so the relationship abruptly ended". Cull Tremayne 23:03, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh, I asked if he died in IRC but nobody answered (I haven't read much Marvel...yet). Addressed, anywho. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 23:08, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) From the squalid cubicle of Graestan:
 * 2) * The three redlinks would be rather simple to remedy.
 * 3) **Addressed.
 * 4) * Check for potential links; "spice" and "mining" are two that stand out.
 * 5) **Linked some.
 * 6) * Hissa is described as a Grand Moff two sentences in a row in the intro.
 * 7) **Addressed.
 * 8) * "The Supreme Prophet sentenced him to a slow and painful death, though Bertroff was killed before his execution could ever take place, on the fourth moon of the planet Yavin."&mdash;Reword; clarify.
 * 9) **Addressed.
 * 10) * "We were desperate of a new leader."&mdash;From a quote; typo?
 * 11) **Mistake on my part; addressed.
 * 12) * "Hissa greeted the audience, which included stormtroopers, Moffs, officers, admirals, bounty hunters and slavelords, bidding them all 'dark greetings.'"&mdash;Yeah.
 * 13) **Addressed.
 * 14) * Even though they are megalomaniacs, the word carries too much connotation to be used without some POV.
 * 15) **That's not what you said on IRC when I asked if it was POV. Begrudgingly addressed.
 * 16) * "Millions of miles" from Calamari? Seriously? Even if it's what's stated, please can we change it?
 * 17) **Addressed.
 * 18) * Try not to refer to Trioculus casually as "the Emperor." While he was the Galactic Emperor, when people read that, they think Palpy. "Emperor" and Palpy are almost synonymous.
 * 19) **Addressed.
 * 20) * "Hissa watched with Trioculus, through cameras installed on the droid, as the Rebels attempted to destroy the droid, which evaded their every move."&mdash;Reword, perhaps break up; it's ponderous even though it isn't long.
 * 21) **Broken up.
 * 22) * "The Grand Moff, however, had no knowledge as to why they were going to Duro—Kadann had staged a coup, and was now in complete control of the Empire, and barred the Committee access to top-secret information."&mdash;Run-on; repunctuate.
 * 23) **Addressed.
 * 24) * I'd like to try and avoid the use of parentheses, as they seem more like casual asides than factual statements. Can you reword to achieve this?
 * 25) **Yes. Removed them all.
 * 26) * &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 03:21, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 27) From the reinhabited lair of Hobbes15
 * 28) * I'm sorry, but "I am Grand Moff Hissa" is not a very good quote. Change it or don't put one in that section.
 * 29) **Well, it's better than no quote at all, IMHO. And I have been unable to find an alternative.
 * 30) ***Quote somewhat begrudgingly removed. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 13:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 31) * In Grand Moff, you say he made Tigellinus an enemy, while in Struggle for Power it states that he was a former ally. This could use some mention in Grand Moff.
 * 32) **Mistake on my part; addressed.
 * 33) * Per Graestan on the parentheses; they don't really seem right.
 * 34) **Addressed.
 * 35) * "Trioculus and Skywalker fought, though the Jedi Knight was too powerful for the mutant, and he managed to escape." Er... it don't make sense!
 * 36) **Addressed.
 * 37) * Currently, the quote for The Lost City of the Jedi doesn't say who actually came up with the scheme. A direct quote should not be cited this way; perhaps use something like or similar to "Hissa/Trioculus muses on how to force SPIN to reveal the location of the Lost City of the Jedi".
 * 38) **Addressed.
 * 39) * "Hissa announced that Trioculus was Palpatine's son, though Kadann saw through the lie. Hissa advised the Emperor to tell him the entire truth, that Kadann knew everything and thus could not be deceived. They told Kadann everything, and Hissa's reasons behind installing Trioculus as the Emperor." This needs a bit of rewording.
 * 40) **Addressed.
 * 41) * "a spot of bother"?! Is this some Irish phrase or something :p ? Reword.
 * 42) **Addressed.
 * 43) * Since when is Triclops part of the Rebel Alliance? With a lot of shaky sentences, I suggest rewriting the second paragraph of Debacle on Duro.
 * 44) **Trioclops wasn't, neither was Ken, that's why they were counted as separate to Rebel Alliance members. I re-wrote what I could, though I couldn't find a more optimal way of phrasing some of it.
 * 45) ***Much better. I may have misread the Triclops+Ken bit, but you definitely improved the rest of it greatly. Hobbes ( Tiger's Lair ) 05:44, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 46) * In Mofference, you call MD-5 "the late Trioculus's personal droid," when Trioculus isn't dead yet.
 * 47) **Everyone but Zorba believed he was. Re-worded, anyway.
 * 48) * Hobbes ( Tiger's Lair ) 06:14, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 49) From the apparition of Atarumaster88's desk
 * 50) * "He made several enemies during his time as Moff, among them Rufaan Tigellinus,[6] though he kept his position, and reported directly to Emperor Palpatine. " Sentence reads clumsily, reword please.
 * 51) **Reworded.
 * 52) * I'm pretty sure they weren't called "Red Guards" in the Imperial era.
 * 53) **Addressed.
 * 54) * "Triclops then approached Hissa, forcefully taking his revenge for the Moff's part in having him locked up. Triclops did not harm the Moff, though Hissa had fallen into a pool of acidic liquid which had leaked from a Duro dam." This doesn't make much sense.
 * 55) **Clarified some.
 * 56) *Other than that, looks good. Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating Day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 15:34, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 57) **I shall. Thanks to Graestan, Hobbes and Ataru for your input. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 15:44, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

(4 Inqs/2 Users/6 Total)
Support
 * 1) --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 14:13, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Green Tentacle (Talk) 01:13, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 01:27, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Thefourdotelipsis 23:41, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) JMAS 00:54, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 6)  &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 02:24, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Per rule 9 &mdash; there are some appearances that are not listed in the references. Either they need to be included with the information they contain, or the proper citation tags (for example,  ) need to be affixed to the appearances which require them.  Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:41, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, I've added where applicable. Other than the Roque Squadron handbook, which I am in the process of acquiring, and possibly Who's Who in Jabba's Palace, the remaining non  sources/appearances contain no refable information whatsoever. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 16:04, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) *(Clarified objection via IRC). Greyman ( Paratus ) 16:09, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) **Every non appearance currently referenced.--  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 20:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) ***It looks like you got them all except And Then There Were Some: The Gamorrean Guard's Tale &mdash; that is, unless that story is supposed to have a tag attached.  Greyman ( Paratus ) 21:32, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) ****Whoops, missed that one. Reference's been added though. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 22:44, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Needs a BTS, per Rule 4 --Eyrezer 23:14, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) *Addressed. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 20:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) From the motel of Green Tentacle:
 * 8) * "Palace" or "palace". I'd say "palace" unless you're using the full name but I could be wrong. Either way, it needs to be consistent.
 * 9) * Same goes for "Citadel" and "citadel".
 * 10) * It also might be better to call it the monastery or something until you get to the point where it actually becomes Jabba's Palace. No biggie though.
 * 11) * Practices and beliefs: "The Order originally consisted only of Humans, though in time it encompassed a great many species." Consider moving to the appropriate place in history instead.
 * 12) * B'omarr Registry should be linked shouldn't it?
 * 13) * Do these images have to be so huge?
 * 14) * Behind the scenes could do with a bit more. Specifically, since they were just brains in jars in ROTJ, which source first identified the Order? Green Tentacle (Talk) 00:01, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 15) **I think they've all been addressed. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 23:19, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) It says they were founded in 700 BBY, but would ponder for millennia...is this right? Thefourdotelipsis 07:52, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 17) *Addressed. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 23:19, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) The article claims that Eron Stonefield entered K'vin's Outpost. This is false. The player character in Missions enters the outpost. Thefourdotelipsis 08:16, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 19) *Addressed. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 23:19, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) From the squalid cublicle of Graestan:
 * 21) * "Real world" can be changed to something like "physical world" to avoid making a POV statement; the same goes for "reality," as we cannot dismiss the realm of thought as unreal in a universe possessed of its own band of magic.
 * 22) **Addressed.
 * 23) * "The tests varied, with some related to logic, others to knowledge of sacred texts and others to physical tasks, to test if a monk could use his mind to block out pain."&mdash;Please reword and clarify.
 * 24) **Addressed.
 * 25) * Your lack of serial commas disturbs me.
 * 26) **Care to clarify?
 * 27) ***Clarified on IRC; I think I got them all. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 23:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 28) * "The brain support unit allowed the monks to survive without being connected to the special equipment in the deepest parts of the monastery, though they were initially difficult to use, and most monks preferred not to."&mdash;Specify what they preferred not to do. Otherwise, it looks like they preferred not to survive, or to be connected to the special equipment.
 * 29) **Addressed.
 * 30) * "Four spindy black legs"&hellip;"the traditional four"&mdash;Redundant.
 * 31) **Addressed.
 * 32) * "Rarely lasted long, and the monks soon left"&mdash;Again, redundant.
 * 33) **Addressed.
 * 34) * The word "order" is capitalized a lot, and I'm not sure it should be in every instance. For example, "K'vin lived on Tatooine at the B'omarr outpost, and like the B'omarr, his Order had their brains removed so they could ponder the infinite for ever more" is somewhat awkward. Please reexamine capitalization usage and adjust where necessary. Consistency is key.
 * 35) **Decapatalised any "order"s that were along, left any "B'omarr Order"s capatilised.
 * 36) * "The body was found by one of Jabba's Gamorrean guards, though J'Quille managed to cover up the monk's death."&mdash;Contradictory. I know what you meant; please specify.
 * 37) **Addressed.
 * 38) * "The B'omarr Monastery"&mdash;Palace, palace, palace. Palace. Please change a few of these to reflect the building's other functions and monikers.
 * 39) **Addressed.
 * 40) * Can we get a better picture of Bubo? His eye is cropped off at the top.
 * 41) **Replaced it with another.
 * 42) * One more quote?
 * 43) **Added.
 * 44) * &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 06:06, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 45) **Sorry it's been so long; I've been having a hectic RL. I'll fix these this evening. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 08:48, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 46) ***Addressed them all, bar one, which I would like to be clarified, if at all possible. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 22:54, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * Not a character, ship or location, and not TOTJ. :) --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 14:13, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * According to Who's Who in Jabba's Palace, the B'omarr Monks are listed under "The Bad" section...maybe that, or Insider's writing of the B'omarr Monks, deserves some mention in the BtS. Just a suggestion since I haven't been able to read Who's Who in Jabba's Palace myself. Greyman ( Paratus ) 21:37, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I've been having trouble getting my hands on that myself. I'll see what I can do. Any assistance from anyone is welcome. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 22:44, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I still haven't gotten access to Insider 60, but I've added a brief mention of it in the BtS. Is that what you had in mind? If not, I'll continue trying to find Insider 60. Thanks, --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 23:27, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

(4 Inqs/3 Users/7 Total)
Support Oppose
 * 1) I was bored. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 20:57, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Thefourdotelipsis 23:06, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  19:03, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 03:49, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Green Tentacle (Talk) 00:10, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) "She often stood around in a multi-purpose hotel hall, along with several other Corellian residents."&mdash;A NPC? Really? No...  &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 03:30, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Although I shed Mount Sorrow-like tears over her P&T :(. Hobbes ( Tiger's Lair ) 04:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Please rephrase the final sentence so it doesn't read "her final fate is unknown" (or something similar understood to mean that). Otherwise, I'd suggest removing it.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 21:49, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Removed it. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 22:39, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Cut the stuff about her hairstyle and how Leia used it. Thefourdotelipsis 07:36, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Addressed.

Comments
 * As it's pretty obvious this character was supposed to be Chertyl Ruluwoor (Selonian), and in the Bts section you mention this, would it be possible to expand (even only slightly), the Chertyl Ruluwoor (Selonian) article? Infobox/sectioning etc. Just a thought, throw it right back at me otherwise :P Harrar 23:18, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, it's not really to do with this article, but I'll be re-reading Wedge's Gamble soon, so I'll try to expand it then. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 23:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

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Support
 * 1) It's not the biggest article to be nominated, but it's pretty good. I'm just sad they're no other images, but I couldn't find anyothers. Kilson LOVES PIE 09:95, November 22 2007

Oppose Comments
 * 1) It doesn't meet FAN rule #18 &mdash; hence why I cleaned it up and nominated it for GA instead of FA in the first place. I knew that I would be hard pressed to meet rule #18 without adding fluff. Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:42, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) I don't think it meets rule #7. Starwarsrulez 18:54, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Eh, we have several FAs that have similar leads. Anyways, like I stated above, to add anything further to the article would be fluff and repetitive. Greyman ( Paratus ) 19:06, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Fine then, but it needs more images. Starwarsrulez 02:31, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *Not a rule based objection, per the following: Unless someone is able to get screenshots from their PSP (which might be very difficult), or LFL releases more pictures of this battle, that single picture in there (compliments of JMAS) is all there is for now. So, more images would indeed be welcomed, but are not "needed" since none are currently available. Greyman ( Paratus ) 02:40, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * This is about 80 words shy of 1000, but the "Aftermath" section is already full of fluff. I would strongly recommend that the nominator take this to GA instead. Thefourdotelipsis 22:16, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

(1 Inq/3 Users/4 Total)
Support
 * 1) --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 18:38, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Adamwankenobi 06:17, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Yay for awesome retconery! -- Ozzel 23:56, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) He sure is dopey-looking. &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 16:17, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Uh... Leia's already married by the time of the Thrawn trilogy. You keep calling her "Organa." &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 04:04, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *I think I had a reason for that, but I can't think of what exactly it was at the minute. Perhaps to differentiate between her and Han. Anyway, addressed. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 23:55, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Actually, that should read "Organa Solo", as she has two surnames. Also, you should use Ralrracheen's full name whenever referring to him. Thefourdotelipsis 22:33, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) *Both addressed. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 16:18, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Image:RalrraSalporin-HttE comic.jpg needs to be re-scanned&mdash;it's distorted. --Imperialles 10:14, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments

(1 Inq/3 Users/4 Total)
Support
 * 1) --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 23:00, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Palpatine, you filthy hypocrite. A lot of your 12 seem kind of sucky compared to the 13th though.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 20:57, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) I like it!Harrar 21:37, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Green Tentacle (Talk) 20:57, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * Unsourced paragraph in the "Post-Endor" section. Thefourdotelipsis 23:18, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Now sourced. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 16:19, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * Expanded on someone else's work (jSarek's, I think). --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 23:00, 25 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't know if the point is really opposable, but I'd like to see this article integrate the cut content from the unpublished Gamer draft of the Grand Admirals article which has somehow escaped into the wild, wink wink. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 04:33, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I actually have gotten a hold of that myself, it's just the sourcing that's the problem. And do you mean in the BtS or the main article? --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 08:46, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Alright, I've added it into the main body with and , and with what I hope is an applicable ref. Is that what you had in mind? --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 10:05, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * After a discussion with some admins on the IRC, I've moved it to its own section in the BtS. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 10:33, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * From the Gonk of Gonk: "Grant saw himself as superior to those who held a lower status than him" ...So, he WAS superior to them? This phrase needs clarification.  Gonk  ( Gonk! ) 18:43, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Clarified some. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 19:52, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

(7 Inqs/4 Users/10 Total)
Support Oppose
 * 1) --Eyrezer 08:21, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Nice job, Ey.  Greyman ( Paratus ) 01:42, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 04:04, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) One redlink? Cull Tremayne 02:55, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) How many dumb snake puns can be made? &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 05:54, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Lord Hydronium 12:47, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Green Tentacle (Talk) 01:07, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 8)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  03:47, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) Redundancy, woo! Thefourdotelipsis 23:28, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) Hobbes ( Tiger's Lair ) 04:51, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) Kilson 19:00, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Fifteen Galactic Standard degrees? Is this a typo? &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 03:20, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *I wish it was, but no, that is what the source said... --Eyrezer 22:04, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) In the intro it syas the Slith were wiped out by the Vong, while later in the article it says they were likely (bold added by me) driven extinct. Minor, but could you change it so the the two agree?  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  22:24, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) *Fixed. --Eyrezer 02:41, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) No suitable lead quote? Green Tentacle (Talk) 23:34, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) *Added a lead quote. --Eyrezer 02:41, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Image:Giant cacti.png needs to be re-scanned&mdash;it's distorted. --Imperialles 10:16, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * I like the new Inq icons! --Eyrezer 04:30, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

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Support
 * 1) (Re)Nominated, after pulling it down a week ago and doing some work on it.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 20:57, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) From the Family-sized pasta bowl of Fiolli
 * 2) * Intro does not state that he was in fact a dark Jedi; It should also be mentioned somewhere in Creation.
 * 3) * Third paragraph of Creation: It says "this clone" became ruler of Wayland&hellip;" but does not explain. The intro implies that he was sent by Palpatine to be the Guard.
 * 4) ** Still uncertain as to whether Palpatine sent the clone to Wayland or not. Was there an edict or mission?
 * 5) ***Seems it could possibly be expanded even more, but I'll leave it to the Inqery to judge that. I'm not going to hold it up.  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 01:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) * Third paragraph of Creation: can the details of the fight be expanded slightly? Not an objection, but a suggestion.
 * 7) * First paragraph of Service/Thrawn: "Upon revealing himself to the Jedi&hellip;" Would dark Jedi be better?
 * 8) * Same sentence: "told them" - A bit awkward since Thrawn was not mentioned as being accompanied.
 * 9) * Fourth paragraph of Service/Thrawn: "he would come to him." Not quite sure who goes to who in this statement.
 * 10) * Same paragraph: What/why was Skywalker skeptical? Was he skeptical about C'baoth?
 * 11) * Fifth paragraph of Showdown: "Luke's clone caused a strange buzzing in his head by simply being near him (a possible effect of clone madness)." Was the buzzing in Luke's head or Luuke's head (or both?) This clears up the next sentence of who was distracted.
 * 12) * Clone Identity: I know you didn't add these paragraphs, but I think the information is valuable. Perhaps better suited in P&T, though. The statements, however, do need to be sourced if they are in fact correct.
 * 13) * P&A: "He had the power to take control of other's minds, and literally reshape them in his own image, a feat unmatched by anyone before." Can this be sourced? It doesn't quite seem to be NPoV.
 * 14) **Better.
 * 15) *I am not an expert on all policy here, but here are some thoughts. Nice work, though. The article is better!  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 05:45, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) **Again, nice work, "Chack." Didn't know that much about the subject until now.  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 23:29, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 17) *From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * 18) * The minor point where Artoo blasts C'baoth and nearly kills him with a laser cannon burst might be important. (on Jomark)
 * 19) * The article dances around mentioning how C'baoth got back to Wayland but never discusses it explicitly. Please do so.
 * 20) *Chimaera is neither explained or linked. No context is given.
 * 21) **Still not linked on first mention and the last time it is used is in need of italics. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 00:12, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 22) * C'baoth's ability to send mental messages across distances needs a mention.
 * 23) *Why did that irrelevant section about Thrawn's death and Rukh and all that come back? I objected to that in this article's first round of nomination. It doesn't serve a purpose to the article and tells us nothing further about C'baoth. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 00:12, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 24) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating Day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 19:36, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 25) From the whosigowhatsit of Four Dot
 * 26) *The image use could be much, much better.
 * 27) *You need to provide better context at the start of the "Service to Thrawn" section. Talk about why Thrawn wanted him, ect, ect.
 * 28) *And on that note, the second paragraph in that section is barely relevant to Joruus.
 * 29) *Why is there a section on the Ukio attack long before it actually happens?
 * 30) *"He began training Skywalker, teaching him many things contrary to what Yoda had taught the young Jedi, such as that Jedi were superior to others." - Unwieldy. Might want to rewrite that one.
 * 31) *And in the rest of that paragraph, there's a lot of repetition of "He did this. He did that".
 * 32) *I'm not sure exactly how the second last paragraph of "Service to Thrawn" is related to Joruus.
 * 33) *Been a while since I read the books, but wasn't there a scene where Joruus took over the Chimaera, albeit briefly?
 * 34) *Fifth paragraph of Showdown on Wayland. Again, I'm not really sure how it relates to Joruus. Can, and must be more concise.
 * 35) *The last paragraph could use some cleaning up too. Also, some aftermath to his death would be good, instead of "He exploded, the end."
 * 36) *P&T could do with some mention of the original C'boath, and how his traits were passed on.
 * 37) *P&A could be expanded quite a bit. Based on the image accompanying it alone.
 * 38) *BTS could do with some beefing up as well.
 * 39) *This might sound harsh, but I think this will require a lot of work to get up to scratch. If it can be done, well and good, but it's not going to be easy. I'm not as familiar with the original material as I should be, but I doubt, for some reason that every single source and appearance has been mined for information thoroughly, and that's really what has to happen before I support. Thefourdotelipsis 23:48, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 40) *Just one more thing
 * 41) *General Covell needs a mention by name, a link. The guy C'baoth bonds to his own brain in TLC, as I recall. It's a pretty impressive techinique. Every last scrap of pertinent detail, after all :PHarrar 20:35, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments

(7 Inqs/4 Users/11 Total)
Support
 * 1) As nominator-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 02:06, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 04:18, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 03:56, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Imperialles 18:00, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Lord Hydronium 12:47, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Green Tentacle (Talk) 01:59, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 7)  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 21:22, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) Impressive. Thefourdotelipsis 00:12, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) Jaina Solo ( Talk ) [[Image:Jainasolosig.gif |25px]] 19:14, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) Kilson LOVES PIE 18:59, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) Not bad, considering how short it was. Unit 8311 17:17, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Source the "Class" field of the infobox. And fix the quotation mark punctuation issues. --Imperialles 14:16, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * 3) * Where is it stated that the warhead launchers are not canon? Given the modular nature of the weapons emplacements, I certainly don't see anything ruling their use out.
 * 4) **Never said they were non-canon, only on some variants (with inline citation).-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 14:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) ***Meh, read that segment in the BTS incorrectly. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 14:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) *No information from Clone Wars Chapter 4 or The Pengalan Standoff. Is there no new information here?
 * 7) **No appeareance in Pengalan Tradeoff so have struck it from the Appearances. Pending on Chapter 4 but my gut instinct is no.-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 14:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) ***No appearance in Chapter 4, however they are in Chapter 5. Added appropriate inline citation and appearance.-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 15:30, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) ****Interestingly enough, both your citations for Chapters 2 and 5 cover the Battle of Muunilist. Is it supposed to be like that? Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:21, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) *****No, they're supposed to point out the Battle of Nebulax's Underpants and the Battle of Guri's Wardrobe. :-P -- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 01:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) *No information from the Clone Wars game. I've played that game, and their appearance could certainly use a mention.
 * 12) **Addressed.-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 14:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 13) ***That's a rather vague mention. I'm sure they were on Geonosis, but possibly also on Raxus Prime. Do some research, get the job done thoroughly. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 14:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) ****Now that you mention it...I have played that game, and it's mostly ground-based vehicular combat with some levels played from an LAAT/i and two played on foot. Can't seem to remember encountering any beak-wings, not even on Geonosis itself. It's also not mentioned on the appearances list for the game's article.-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 15:04, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 15) ******The only way to be sure would be to re-check the game. Personally, I can't recall fighting them in combat, but for some reason "cut-scene" keeps popping up into my mind. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:17, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) *******If I add an {{C}appears in cutscenes}} would you be happy?-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 01:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 17) * "The campaign saw initial success for the Confederacy, but with the leadership of Jedi General Echuu Shen-Jon, the clone forces would ultimately triumph; this resulted in the death of Tann and the destruction of most of her forces". The part about Shen-Jon reads awkwardly. I suggest breaking it into two sentences.
 * 18) **Addressed.-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 14:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 19) *Last paragraph of BTS not very BTS-y. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:21, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) **Whatever that means...done my best to fix.-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 01:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 21) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating Day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 04:17, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * The first image, on layman's resolution, is next to the infobox, causing the text to, well, "squish". It's not an objectionable point, obviously, but could it be moved down a scerrick? Thefourdotelipsis 00:12, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

(2 Inqs/4 User/6 Total)
Support
 * 1) As a token of gratitude for the awesomeness he has bestowed upon us. -- Ozzel 07:12, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2)  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 19:16, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Thefourdotelipsis 00:32, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) --Eyrezer 05:37, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Adamwankenobi 18:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 6)  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:26, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Source the infobox, and fix the issues with punctuation in regards to quotation marks. --Imperialles 10:28, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *Done all that needs doing. If the rest means waiting on a certain CT, so be it. -- Ozzel 09:17, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Adamwankenobi 19:25, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) *I'm guessing you voted in the wrong place... Otherwise, please make your objection more specific. ;-) -- Ozzel 21:47, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * 6) * More thorough external linking needed (Chicago, Illinois)
 * 7) **Check. -- Ozzel 07:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) * "The next year, he did Dig magazine's The Lost City of Tatooine and the Random House children's book Anakin to the Rescue.". A better verb than "did" would be helpful, especially since the redlink doesn't exactly allow readers to find out what he did.
 * 9) **Check. (Side note: someone with that magazine really needs to make an article and add the info to the site.) -- Ozzel 07:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) * Wherever you first use "RPG", there had better be a parenthetical statement to the effect of (Role Playing Game) in case there is one nerd who doesn't know what RPG means.
 * 11) **Linked. -- Ozzel 07:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * "...conceptual artist Ralph McQuarrie as one of his major influences, as a child and professionally." That last clause could use some explanation because I could read that in an alternate manner and be amused.
 * 13) **Understandable. Hopefully fixed now. -- Ozzel 07:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) * 4 redlinks.
 * 15) **I count 3, with one being a duplicate between the text and the list (the aforementioned "Lost City of Tatooine"). -- Ozzel 07:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) ***Bah! Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 14:26, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 17) * Nothing on personal life? Not at all? Heck, if Burl Ives can have some personal life, so can Chris Trevas, who is way more awesome.
 * 18) **Burl Ives was a high-profile celebrity. Chris Trevas, while I'd certainly be thrilled to meet him and would ask for his autograph if I ran into him on the street, isn't exactly E! Online fodder, if you know what I mean. Aside from perhaps a sentence worth of trivia from his MySpace, there's really not much I could say. -- Ozzel 07:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 19) ***You could at least mention the fact that he lives in Walled Lake, Michigan and owns his own illustration company. Given that he's *linked* to us on his MySpace profile, he might even be receptive to a request for interview. That's a judgment call, of course. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 14:26, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) ****He doesn't own a company; he's freelance. And while you might be right, generating content ain't part of the deal; covering what we got is. As for residence, that was an infobox field, but Imp apparently removed it on account of it being "stupid." -- Ozzel 02:57, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 21) *****But, uh, you didn't cover the fact that he's, you know, single for all the fangirls out there! :-P Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:26, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 22) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 06:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 23) **Remarkably un-frustrating, actually. ;-) -- Ozzel 07:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * Is there any way to make the different tables of his work all have the same span widths? I think it would look tidier. --Eyrezer 02:14, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Imp fixey. -- Ozzel 09:17, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I was also hoping to get the column widths the same as though it is the continuation of one big table... --Eyrezer 09:59, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Eh... I started out with one big table, but I figured that splitting them up would make them easier to navigate and be a more efficient use of space. I would have to go back to a single table to do that, and I'm not really sure I want to. -- Ozzel 00:45, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

(4 Inqs/4 User/8 Total)
Support
 * 1) Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? - Lord Hydronium 12:10, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) The Wise but Unfortunately Sleepy? &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 06:39, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Ironic. -- Ozzel 09:06, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Unit 8311 18:22, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Good stuff. Thefourdotelipsis 00:45, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Jaina Solo ( Talk ) [[Image:Jainasolosig.gif |25px]] 19:14, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Adamwankenobi 19:25, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) Janeway 20:27, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) From the squalid cubicle of Graestan:
 * 2) * Linking needs to be redone. Once per article or once in intro/once in main body.
 * 3) * Per my comments on Bertroff Hissa, I feel that the use of parentheses smacks of an aside as opposed to representing verifiable information. While the date for Revenge of the Sith in the BtS seems fine, the next use doesn't sit well.
 * 4) *Otherwise, an incredible article and a refreshing read. &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 15:47, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Image:Plagueis.jpg needs to be re-scanned&mdash;it's distorted. --Imperialles 18:51, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * If you're wondering, it's 1,206 words (quotes and headings not included, of course). - Lord Hydronium 12:11, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

(4 Inqs/ 1 Users/5 total)
Support
 * 1)  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:01, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Gets my vote. Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 19:00, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Thefourdotelipsis 01:01, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) That thing looks like it would hurt. &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 04:50, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 5)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 14:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) From the fjord of Imperialles:
 * 2) * The infobox needs to be sourced.
 * 3) **Sourced.  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 19:00, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) * The "History" section contains several one- or two-sentence paragraphs. Either merge these with existing paragraphs, or expand them enough to warrant separate paragraphs. This is an article, not a chronological list of facts.
 * 5) * The above phenomenon appears in the "Philosophy" and "Common abilities" sections as well.
 * --Imperialles 16:39, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) *Addressed, as much as possible. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 19:14, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) From the squalid cubicle of Graestan:
 * 3) * Link more thoroughly, please. Once per article or once in intro/once in main body, and I noticed a few missing links.
 * 4) **Relinked.  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 19:00, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) * The last sentence of "History" is somewhat ponderous.
 * 6) **Addressed. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 19:14, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) * "Their use of the Force was built around its use for defense" is a bit awkward.
 * 8) **Fixed.  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 19:00, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) * &mdash;Graestan ( This party's over ) 16:46, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * This is over 1,100 words for those wondering. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:01, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

(2 Inq/ 1 Users/3 total)
Support
 * 1) --Eyrezer 04:18, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Thefourdotelipsis 06:19, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Interesting read, and a different type of FAN. Although, I do agree with Eyrezer, as I think that the title move of the article was completely unneeded&mdash;in fact, I have a lot to say about it, but I won't brandish them on here&hellip;for obvious reasons.  Greyman ( Paratus ) 14:11, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) *To clarify, it was originally at "Wooden-hulled battleship" until I moved it to "Farfalla's flagship" while nomming it. --Eyrezer 07:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) From the Forest of Goodwood
 * 2) * Title should be reverted to Wooden-hulled battleship and ((conjecture)) tag removed.
 * 3) **Against my better judgment but done.
 * 4) * The line "Farfalla then led broke through the blockade, in a crucial intervention that helped turn the tide of the war" in the intro needs to be fixed for grammar and clarity; also, "300 Knights" should probably be put in word form.
 * 5) **Fixed
 * 6) *When describing the third sail, the following statement is made: "this one [was] purple with a large crest emblazoned upon it—likely the Farfalla family crest". Is there a source for this?
 * 7) **Probably overreaching. Removed. --Eyrezer 07:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) *Is it really necessary to make a redlink out of "starship design"?
 * 9) **We lack an article on starship design, therefore a redlink.
 * 10) ***What I mean to say, is it necessary to make a link to an article that, in all likelihood, won't get made?-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 09:57, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) ****Do we want the Wookieepedia to be complete or what? --Eyrezer 10:12, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) *In general the Design section needs a fairly extensive prose revision; there are a number of stubby sentences and some awkward moments in the text.
 * 13) **Have redone some of this.
 * 14) * Links to colors (purple, gold. etc.) are not needed.
 * 15) **Done
 * 16) * Links to Jedi Order and New Sith Empire should be added to the History section.
 * 17) **Done
 * 18) *Should the "conflicting sources" template be added?
 * 19) *TIMMMMMBERRRRRRR!!!-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 08:11, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Image:Woodenbattleship.JPG, Image:Farfalla's flagship stern.JPG and Image:Farfalla's flagship cruising.JPG all need to be re-scanned&mdash;they're distorted. --Imperialles 10:06, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments

(1 Inq/1 Users/2 total)
Support
 * 1) -- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 07:54, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Thefourdotelipsis 06:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * Image:Probot under guard.jpg needs to be reuploaded&mdash;it's low quality. --Imperialles 10:11, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) The infobox is not fully sourced. --Imperialles 10:32, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * 3) * Having two clauses that start with "though" in one sentence (last sentence of intro) reads awkwardly. Please vary up that sentence.
 * 4) **Addressed.
 * 5) * "Using his and his companions' skills, as well as drawing upon the Force, the party overcame a number of obstacles, including a malfunctioning series of flow control rooms and a corridor filled with blistering-hot steam that led to a computer access terminal." Reading this sentence aloud tells me that the first clause is sort of messy and it runs on a bit much.
 * 6) **Addressed
 * 7) * Could you describe how the terminal helped them thin the odds in their favor more specifically?
 * 8) **Addressed - at first I'd thought it'd be fluff to do so, but meh.
 * 9) *Mention that Shasa and her Fish F**k buddies were Force-sensitive please.
 * 10) **Addressed -- and may I point out, their relationship was entirely platonic!
 * 11) ***That better?-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 01:35, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * "Revan and his companions went on to confront the Sith Master in charge of the base; however, he was forced to slay two more Selkath apprentices as well as the Master in order to finish the mission and secure the needed data about the Sith Empire's plans to corrupt Manaan's youth by indoctrinating them into the dark side of the Force." Run-on sentence, let's cut down on joining two long sentences with semicolons. Instead, go ahead and make it two sentences and let the prose flow!
 * 13) **Addressed.
 * 14) * Some confusion on who is command of the base- that Sith Master or Grann?
 * 15) **Addressed with possible explanation.
 * 16) * Are there alternate possibilities for this battle? I believe there are, and they should be noted, somewhat concisely, in the BTS per the tag.
 * 17) **Addressed.
 * 18) * The quote heading "...presents evidence of Sith evil" could have "evil" reworded to something else. Duplicity might be a better choice to avoid any trace of POV.
 * 19) **Addressed.
 * 20) * "trio of Republic warriors" is a bit misleading, as HK-47 and T3-M4, or Canderous if he's in the party, cannot be described as Republic warriors. Really, neither can the Jedi.
 * 21) **Addressed.
 * 22) * The whole first sentence of the Preamble is atrocious. Need a bit more context than that, please. Assume the reader has less knowledge of the KotOR series than you give them credit for atm.
 * 23) **Addressed.
 * 24) * Ditch the term "Preamble." Try "prelude" or look at other battle FAs.
 * 25) **Addressed.-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 14:41, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 26) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 06:17, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * My second made-from-scratch FAN. Article meets requirements per Rule #18.-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 07:54, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * General prose quantity leaves something to be desire of, with lots of overextended sentence syntax. I pointed out or fixed the most glaring examples. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 06:12, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

(1 Inq/0 Users/1 Total)
Support
 * 1) Thefourdotelipsis 09:41, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Oppose

Comments
 * This beat just won't stop! Thefourdotelipsis 09:41, 3 December 2007 (UTC)