User talk:Havac

The place to talk with Havac. I'll generally reply here.

Archive: Archive One, Archive Two

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 * Thanks for letting me know about that. Sorry it's taken me so long to get that in; I've been busy. Atarumaster88  Jedi_Order.svg ( Talk page ) 02:28, October 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * Enjoy the Agents of Deception here and check with Craven for the other one. He provided the info in that link. ;) Atarumaster88  Jedi_Order.svg ( Talk page ) 06:22, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Dark Side scenario
Wow, wow, hold on. Who told you that the dark-side scenarios are non-canon? The information from them should be in the body of the article, not in the BTS.  Mauser  Comlink 09:23, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, the Agents of Deception dark-side scenario runs directly counter to the light-side scenario and breaks canon (having Han and Lando interact in 1 ABY), and the Galactic Hunters dark-side scenario consists solely of capturing famous characters and turning them over to the Empire (Wedge, Karrde, Corran). They're obviously not intended to be canonical. Havac 19:15, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * The Galactic Hunters light-side campaign consists of you hunting down the bounty hunters in order to liberate the Rebels before they are transferred to a secure location. Thus, not only there is no big contradiction, but it also makes no sense without the dark side campaign. The Agents of Deception campaign is a bit more tricky, I agree. Han and Lando are not supposed to interact around 1 ABY and around the time they can (4 ABY) the campaign would make even less sense. However, as I pointed to Ataru while updating Lando Calrissian, "It's Galaxies. It's not supposed to make sense." He eventually agreed to put that info in the main body, not sure if it counts as a precedent to you. Besides, as I pointed in that TFN thread, the scenarios are not alternate, they run concurrently/consequently and one campaign affects the other.  Mauser  Comlink 19:26, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * So I need to track down information on the light side campaign too? I was only given the dark side scenarios. Havac 19:44, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * To be honest: I do not know. I only have the limited description from the free part of the game. However, all the light-side campaign deals with tracking down the location the prisoners are held in, it has no info concerning Karrde or Horn themselves. I believe that if you add that they were rescued by an unidentified spacer, that would suffice.  Mauser  Comlink 19:52, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * I've put out another request on TFN; I'll see what comes back from that and then make the changes. Havac 20:25, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Corran Horn
Okay, what's the deal with that double-revert? I just put more details in and slightly improved the sourcing, why revert my edits? Maybe I should have reworded the text a bit more, but your version does not include any references to time frame (and "after the battle of Talus" is better than nothing), and also does not say that Horn was among Emperor's Most Wanted. And what part exactly is contradicting established canon?  Mauser  Comlink 19:03, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, there's the part where Corran being in with the Rebels contradicts the fact that he despised the Rebels and wanted nothing to do with them, and most importantly the part where the Empire puts a bounty on Corran, puts him in jail, he breaks out, and he . . . goes back to working for the Empire. So, while nothing in my version contradicts that, I dance around the parts that are utterly inexplicable, make no sense, and don't gel with anything else, thus making a coherent article and avoiding contradiction. The article never says "Corran Horn was not on the Emperor's Most Wanted list," but it also avoids saying, "Corran Horn was on the Emperor's Most Wanted list (before he'd even graduated CorSec academy and during a period when he explicitly had no relations with the Rebellion), escaped capture, and went back to working with Imperial Intelligence officer Kirtan Loor." As for the rest of your details, they're mostly just rephrasing the scenario writeups and going into minutia, which isn't necessary. As for the sourcing, I've never seen us source things to specific video game campaigns, or specific scenarios in an RPG book (unless they've been published separately). We really only source to specific cards because we can link right to them. I don't see a need to start pegging everything down to subportions of products. On the timing: is this campaign explicitly set after the Battle of Talus? Or are you assuming that later card releases have to be set after the SOC card release? Havac 19:21, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see your point now. You know, the writers of those scenarios are quite stupid, they're constantly making CorSec officers arrest Imperial representatives on duty. Also, the entire Squadrons Over Corellia campaign is build over Talus being a moon of Corellia, that fact is stated like 12 times, so I had to get around that too. The reason I am now sourcing things to the campaigns is because the information is not present on the cards themselves, and people might wonder where the hell does that come from. I have sourced quite a lot of the info to the campaigns now, but since it's your FA, you can leave it as you wish. Regarding the timing: the intro to the GH campaign start with "Disturbed by the recent successes of Rebel espionage activities within the Corellian system, the Emperor has...". This obviously refers to an earlier SOC campaign, where Rebel spies obtain the Imperial battle plans for the Battle of Talus and, analyzing them, manage to evacuate most personnel from the base before the assault, much like on Hoth. So, the next campaign has to be set sometime after that.  Mauser  Comlink  19:44, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll work that back in. Havac 19:55, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Wedge
Hello, Havac, I see that you're working on Wedge on your subpage, so I got a couple of Wedge images, which I hope you could use. Also please make sure to note this, which includes new info on him from the said SWGTCG campaign.  Mauser  Comlink 21:52, November 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks a bunch! Havac 22:03, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Here's another couple images of Wedge if you'd like to make use of them - from from Handbook 2: Crimson Empire and Handbook 3: Dark Empire. -  JMAS  Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 13:36, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Project
I wish to start a project deicated to characters, how can i get that started? T-888 15:00, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Darth Caedus
Can we please add the "over Shedu Maad" segment to the death in Jacen Solo's infobox? I don't want to get into a conflict over it.--Jen&#39;ari Xer&#39;lyx 16:23, March 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * No. The ship is the location. There's a reason I told you to look around and get familiar with our standards for articles before doing any more editing. You've been here for two weeks, and you keep getting in edit wars with admins and established contributors because you don't seem to realize that someone who's been here two weeks probably has less of an idea what articles should look like than everyone else. I'm glad you want to edit. I am. But edit-warring because you want to add sloppily-formatted trivia, screw around with the images, or add nonstandard data to the infobox is a bad idea, and the fact that you keep getting reverted by admins and established users should clue you in to that. Havac 18:11, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Police Academy 2: Their First Assignment
Yo. I know that the Caamas Document Crisis is criminally underrepresented in images, so if you're looking for some for Wedge, here's a heads-up on this one that I came up with for Garm. Menkooroo 06:46, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hah, thanks. Havac 04:43, March 31, 2010 (UTC)