Talk:Jedi apparel/Archive1

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Captions
I find many of the captions to be quite funny. "Nomi Sunrider and Ulic Qel-Droma wore more colorful garments"..."Thon did not wear any clothes at all"... That "traditional Twi'lek garments" caption is HILARIOUS! --Master Starkeiller 13:22, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Feel free to rewrite them. I'm no fashion commentator anyway. :-P KEJ 14:16, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't want them rewritten. They're great. I just wanted to say how funny they seemed to me. Funny isn't bad. --Master Starkeiller 14:39, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Funny isn't bad? THat's true. They weren't intended to be funny though :-/ But, hey, if you like them, that's great :-) (personally, I appreciate the female Twi'lek Jedi's preference for traditional Twi'lek garments ;-)). KEJ 14:48, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Colors of Thul
Would it be possible to obtain an image of a Jedi donning the colors of Thul.... in color? KEJ 14:16, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * The only other picture we have of Raynar is that of UnuThul, which I think only shows the orange. StarNeptune 15:11, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * I replaced it with an image of Mara Jade. Neither Thul-pic really shows the color or apparel. KEJ 15:35, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Jedi Cloaks in Leviathian?
Apparently the Jedi had New Republic emblems on their robes in the Leviathian comic series but I cannot confirm that. If so it is worth a mention in their entry. Can anyone confirm it? Eyrezer 10:32, 17 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Kyp Durron and Dorsk 82 have the NR emblem on the clasp of their cloaks - Kwenn 18:03, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Jedi Armor
The Jedi have donned their battle armor during the Ruusan Reformation - maybe someone can work this in? The way it is written now in the Behind the Scenes section it sounds as if there would exist an error in the continuity. Tulon 15:10, 22 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * They also had light armor during the New Jedi Order. I think this started with the Mission to Myrkr (mission). Hopefully somebody else knows and can work it in too. --Xwing328 00:49, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Indeed, but I would not count NJO clothing as typical "Jedi attire", as the NJO Jedi do not have a lot in common with the old Jedi order - at least their clothing is strictly personal, everybody wears what he has already worn before becoming a Jedi etc ... there's no "NJO style garment". Tulon 12:15, 23. Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * It is a continuity error, innit? I do not know of any rectonning regarding the armor problem. Note also that there is a slight continuity problem as regards the older issues of Tales of the Jedi in which there appears to be no standardised Jedi apparel. But sure, I'll mention that they wore armor in the New Sith Wars. KEJ 14:28, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I think we should stress the continuity problem and, if it has been retconned, mention this in 'Behind the scenes' as well. KEJ 15:56, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's that big a deal. The description is not a blanket statement, and its about the feel of the movies. An army of dark side users of course gives the Jedi vs. Sith a completely different feel.

Making of Costume ?
I'm curious, how would you make a dark brown cloak and hood, like the one Anakin Skywalker wears when he marches on The Jedi Temple....How would You?
 * Get some cheap fabric and sew it. Better yet, have a family member do it for you. There are plans online; try this site. -LtNOWIS 03:45, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I actually am making my own Jedi getup and I finished the robe myself today. The Simplicity pattern they mention on Padawan's Guide is best. I'd reccomend something thick like flannel to make your robe, but I made mine out of grey suede so, whatever. --ChristheGreat 04:15, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks alot for help,But I don't believe Padawan's guide says anything about how to make anakin's Episode III Jedi cloak.....Please help me on this...

Images
Ho ho holy crap this article has a lot of them. Are they all really necessary? --MarcK [talk] 12:53, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I reckon they are. They serve as examles... and a picture says more than a thousand words KEJ 09:40, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

What needs to be done
I think we need to expand the section on traditional jedi robes, don't we? The samew goes for the section on cultural influences. And behind the scenes. Maybe there is some info in Dressing a Galaxy - does anybody own that book? KEJ 09:40, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Jedi Underwear?


Its the first one I've seen, know any other source that talks about it? --Razzy1319 07:19, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Sith Apparel?
Should there be an article about Sith Apparel? I mean, the Sith have worn all kinds of different robes, armor and other apparel. The KOTOR games show diferent types of Sith/dark Jedi robes, Maul was wearing Sith robes, Sidious had his own type of robes, ect. So one would think that there would be an article about Sith apparel as well as Jedi apparel.
 * Well, why not? KEJ 09:33, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
 * sure..we could involve all the armors such as Vade, Revan etc. should be a good article. Jedi Dude
 * Ditto. That'd be an interesting article to have. &mdash;Mirlen 16:43, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
 * erm im not sure how u make an articel, but once its made il contribute.Jedi Dude
 * If you can find enough sources to back up what you are saying i say go for it. --Dumac 23:16, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Jumpsuits on Yavin 4
While reading the Junior Jedi Knights and Young Jedi Knights novels, I noticed that most of the Jedi trainees at the Jedi Praxeum on Yavin 4 wore jumpsuits. Yavin 4 is a hot and humid tropical moon and thus jumpsuits would have been quite uncomfortable.

Well, I guess the authors of those two series should have don't more research particularly on tropical climates. From where I come from in Malaysia, an average day is 36 celsius (96.8 Fahrenheit) and I guess that it would have been the same temperature of Yavin 4. What do you think? MyNz 09:25, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, EU is full of such wee bloopers, but maybe the jumpsuits have some kinda cooling mechanisms or something in them. KEJ 08:20, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Good observation MyNz! I never thought of that. The one time I passed through Malaysia the heat and humidity was pretty tough. I wouldn't want to train to be a Jedi in it! --Eyrezer 08:05, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Very true about Malaysia and what a good statement, though I have noticed in books on realworld military uniforms that even soldiers fighting in tropical climates where some form of coveralls. Zainal 09:27, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Jedi Pilot suit
I don't think the Twi'lek pilot's clothes are supposed to be traditional pilot clothing. It looks like female Twi'lek preference, like Aayla's. I doubth all humanoid female Jedi pilots would wear that. W hat do you think? -Aiddat 23:23, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The pilot's wearing a jumbpsuit. That's pretty "piloty". And then she's probably wearing Twi'Lek style clothes underneath. KEJ 13:30, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but I don't think all female Jedi pilots would wear than tiny yellow shirt. &mdash; Aiddat (Holonet) (Contribs Log) NR_Seal.svg 22:31, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

KOTOR era
can we find images of Jedi form the KOTOR games and add to the galleries? MoffRebus 11:13, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, why not? KEJ 14:28, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Cin Drallig's robes
Cin Drallig's robes in the Revenge of the Sith video game appear to have markings much like the Ansatan symbols on Jocasta Nu's robes. They might allude to his discipline in combat, as he is the Jedi Battlemaster. --Shon Kon Ray 23:30, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Roan Fel
Should we have Roan Fel's garments and other apparel? He was an Imperial Knight, and being the Emperor, didn't wear the same thing as ordinary Knights.--Darth Oblivion 02:40, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Yep, it you can get a good pic, plus it may be good to mention how the Jedi had gone back to more traditional robes in the lecacy order Jedi Dude 17:26, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Also, his double's lightsaber doesn't appear to be the standard Imperial Knight lightsaber. I'm guessing it is a reproduction of Fel's own.--Darth Oblivion 17:33, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I guess so, i mean he wouldn't be a very good decoy without ALL the details would he? Jedi Dude 17:39, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I was thinking about using this image:



I'm not sure what to write for the caption though.--Darth Oblivion 18:15, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thats a good image, write something like Roan Fel, emperor prefered more elabrote robes etc. Jedi Dude 18:20, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I added that he had underlying armor, because he appears to at least have a chestplate.--Darth Oblivion 18:32, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Origin of robe
In the game, was Revan the only Jedi who wore a long robe, because every other Jedi in the game had jedi robes that were short.

Would this mean, Revan was the first Jedi to wear and introduce the long Jedi robe?

Master Nikolce 23:51, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Corran's robe
In the NJO section there is a pic of Corran wearing a green robe. The caption is that this is a traditional Corellian robe. What's the source for this? I'm looking at Kyp's robe and it is very similar. Perhaps this is just a generic robe? --Eyrezer 07:57, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

KOTOR Era Robes
Honestly, there should be more mentioning of the Jedi Robes as worn during the Mandalorian Wars and the Jedi Civil War. It's certainly different enough from the other types of robes that it deserve at least some mentioning plus images. Equally, they are unique that many Jedi - especially those in a higher position such as the Council members of the Enclave - wear many colors besides the browns and tans more commonly seen. 147.174.104.54 22:29, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Jedi Covenant
I recommend a section be included on the rather unique and stylized robes worn by the members of the Jedi Covenant, during the KOTOR era. Here are just a few of the more outstanding ones, which we already have pictures of.

I have not read the books, so I am not a good candidate to write this section. Although if no one else wants to tackle it, I'll use the other articles as a source and do my best to write it up. MaclimesZero 14:27, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I added a small section. Somebody please check if it's good enough. KEJ 15:45, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

How did Lucas come up with robes?
Isn't it possible that Lucas' original intention was not for Jedi wearing robes? I mean, think about it. In ANH the only Jedi is Kenobi. His clothes though seem very similar to Luke's (as well as most in-film tunics). So can't it be that robes and tunics were initially Tatooine clothing (think of Jawas, Tuskens and ol' Uncle Owen...)? So at first Lucas didn't have that monastic kind of life in mind for the Jedi and thought of them more like justice mystic warriors against all evil. Then seeing the outcome of the movie and how Kenobi looked, developed that style we are all familiar with and dressed Yoda with his white robe and the rest of the band in the prequels. Isn't it suspicious that Luke doesn't wear the tunic in ROTJ, when he actually becomes a Jedi? Summing up isn't it possible that Tatooine fashion trends became Jedi symbols because they looked good?

I've always thought exactly so, but when it comes down to it, it's just conjecture.

Dredwulf60 05:48, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Speculated Origin
I recently took the advantage to add a subheading to the 'Behind the Scenes Section' Noting the resemblance of the Jedi tunics to the traditional Japanese clothing styles. I also mentioned, that Samurai culture in general is believed to have great influence in the early creation of the Jedi

Der Rastlose 13:27, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Does that mean we can't use galleries for illustrative purposes in articles?
The galleries have been removed because of an argument saying this article was a "thinly veiled gallery". I think it had pretty obvious galleries in it. But they served a pretty obvious purpose too. We originally placed the galleries in the article for illustrative purposes. Is the removal of the galleries a sign that galleries in articles will no longer be permitted? KEJ 22:35, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I think those galleries should be okay. There were being used for illustrative purposes, so there should be no breach of fairuse. They certainly made the article more attractive and illustrative. --Eyrezer 05:33, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I personally see this Inquisators(or however you spell it) got to much power, this is getting ridiculous. The galleries on this article did as they were ment to do, give illustraive point. Removing them is just stupid in my opinion. So I agree with Eyrezer. Unfortunatntly, attractive, illustrative, or even interesting articles are beyond the new standards here. When were these new standards anyway? --TheUltimate 8:49, 13 April
 * I'd like to point out that I am actually an Inquisitor myself. --Eyrezer 12:58, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Doesn't change my postion at the least however. You will I see I posted a series of questions in waht I beleive was the Inquisiitor section and I would suggest a change of names Inquisitor is hard to spell unless you actually see it. --TheUltimate

Obi-Wan's Boots
Not sure quite how to approach this as it's more a costuming tip than a piece of canon!

I know Clothing the Galaxy states that Obi-wans boots were "Australian Tanker Boots" but I can actually expand a little on that, with having a military background. They're actually 1903 Pattern British and Commonwealth Cavalry Boots. They were issued wholesale to cavalry units but are most closely associated with the Australian Light Horse (due to them largely being Australian leather goods) during world war one.

Not sure how the heck to add that to the article or even if it's appropriate. What does everyone else think? BlacAce bt 10:08, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Would probably work better in the 'Behind the scenes' section of Obi-wan's own article. Han's DL-44 is a good example (sourcing the Mauser machinepistol used for the prop).Tocneppil 06:57, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Still more KOTOR speculation
There is a lot of speculation and assumption surrounding the Jedi exile and Revan in this article. It links to the KOTOR games even though these are assumptions. Someone please fix it, I would just delete it, but there is important stuff about the Jal Shey and stuff intertwined with it. Why does it seem that everyone who plays a KOTOR game always thinks that the way they played through the game is canon? A wiki article should maintain factuality in the face of such speculation.

P.S., is there a tag for 'speculation'? I mean, the comments are falsely sourced to the KOTOR games.

I swear, the way KOTOR games are with canon, makes them a black hole in wookiepedia. Thank you. (- -) 20:01, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The way that section is written leaves enough ambiguity within the gameplay for it to be factual. I see nothing that says the player played a certain specific way. - Solus (Bird of Prey)  03:41, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Jedi apparel during the Great Jedi Purge

 * There should be something here on Jedi apparel during the Great Jedi Purge, like that some Jedi (eg Jax Pavan) discarded their traditional robes so as to blend in more and hide from the Empire's Jedi Hunters --Jinzler 13:32, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Good point. Go ahead and add it. KEJ 12:09, 30 August 2008 (UTC)