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Star Wars: The Clone Wars Legacy Episodes
Hello Brandon Rhea,

I know we put Star Wars: The Clone Wars (TV series) information in canon and legends but how come not the legacy episodes.

Please reply,

May the Force be with you

Maurice.136 (talk) 16:23, February 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Maurice. We only put Legacy in Canon pages because it was released after April 25th, which was the day that Lucasfilm announced that the Expanded Universe had become Legends. We made a decision here to keep Episodes I-VI and Seasons 1-6 of The Clone Wars in Legends pages, because they were necessary to tell the story in many Legends pages, but that's because Episodes I-VI and Seasons 1-6 were released before April 25th. Anything The Clone Wars-related from after April 25th, like Son of Dathomir, "Crystal Crisis on Utapau," and Dark Disciple, are only put into Canon pages. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 16:27, February 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Just weighing in, the SoD trade paperback uses the old Eras system, which places it in the Rise of the Empire era. It seems like its intended to be placed in both. -  AV-6R7 User talk:AV-6R7 17:08, February 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually no, that's a fundamental misunderstanding of Canon and Legends. The only place where something is both Canon and Legends is on Wookieepedia (and any website that may choose to follow our way on that). Officially, there is nothing that is both Canon and Legends. Episodes I-VI and Seasons 1-6 are, officially, just Canon. We apply them to Legends, which officially is just a brand name, because we basically have to for the Legends story to make sense. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 17:48, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Bad Batch
Hey Brandon. I realize that Hildalgo's comments indicate that Lucasfilm considers all of the unaired stories to be canon, but for us as the audience, we've mostly heard about those stories through unofficial means. For example, we know that some of the unfinished story arcs involved everything from The Bad Batch to something about Yoda and the Wookiees, but the problem is that we don't know the exact nature, content, or details of those stories&mdash;besides the fact that, in canon, they simply took place. The difference between these unreleased stories and, say, the Crystal Crisis on Utapau story reels is that the latter episodes were released officially, even in their unfinished state. On the other hand, all of the information that we have about The Bad Batch story arc has come from Brent Friedman, who himself isn't technically a "canon" source, at least in the way WP:CANON defines it. I realize he's the one who wrote these stories, and that's not to say I don't respect his work (I do, greatly), but when it comes down to it, we can't treat his words as canon or official, at least in the way that a canon adaptation of the story (say, a novel or comic) would be. That's why I don't think it's fit to tag the episode articles as canon.

I suppose a simpler way of putting it is that while the "story" that The Bad Batch episodes tell is canon, the episode itself&mdash;being unfinished and unreleased&mdash;is not. However, I do realize that there are a lot of gray areas within this matter, mostly due to the fact that Lucasfilm hasn't yet chosen to (or announced that they will) officially release these unaired stories. As we get more information (if at all) about them, I imagine we'll need a more definitive policy for how to incorporate this info into our articles. Also, that's true about the Legends tag; I'll remove it.

Thanks, and let me know if you have any more questions.  CC7567  (talk) 21:34, February 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * You make a good point, and even though you weren't necessarily advocating for this, I think it would be a good idea to delete the IU pages relating to The Bad Batch altogether&mdash;e.g. delete The Bad Batch (the IU article) and replace it with The Bad Batch (episode). It's better to contain the information within the OOU articles instead of keeping an IU article whose canon status is entirely unconfirmed by all accounts. As for the OOU episode articles, at this point I believe it's worth keeping them because they're technically official. By that, I mean that they're placeholders until (or if) Lucasfilm decides to release the stories through official means. I know it sounds like I'm reneging on my point that Friedman isn't an official source for information, but since he did provide the episode titles, there's enough to warrant their existence as articles, at least until/if the stories are officially published. At that point, they can be merged with the hypothetical comic/novel/whatever adaptation, similar to the way that the Son of Dathomir comic issues note the original title of the episode script that they were adapted from.  CC7567  (talk) 21:54, February 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... Isn't this almost the opposite of what you were saying before? Earlier you were saying that although the story was canon, the episodes were not. Now you seem to be saying the complete opposite, supporting the deletion of a page that is an actual in-universe part of the story, and keeping the episode pages. Cevan (talk) 21:59, February 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree with CC's proposal to contain all information in the OOU pages. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 22:02, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Cevan: just to clarify, the point I was making about the episodes not being canon (and by that, I mean taking place within the new continuity that excludes the EU, as defined by WP:CANON) was to explain why the episode articles do not deserve having canon tags. However, the episodes themselves are official in the sense that they were fully scripted for TV production, until production on TCW stopped. On the other hand, the exact in-universe content and nature of The Bad Batch is currently impossible to define, because we don't have a canon source that details said information. For example, if Lucasfilm were to officially adapt the episodes into another medium, the new author or writer will definitely revise certain aspects of the story, and might even choose to give "The Bad Batch" a different name altogether. That's just a hypothetical of course, but the point remains that currently, we don't have any actual canon information on The Bad Batch, which is why the in-universe article needs to be deleted.  CC7567  (talk) 22:11, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Jedi Archives Wiki
Why did you close our wikia, dude? We only had one actual copied page and we even said we were going to remove the copied layout and everything once we got the chance to. You've unfairly closed our wiki. GrandmasteroftheArchives (talk) 02:30, March 1, 2015 (UTC)

Rotary blaster canon
Ah yes I've seen it now. I was under the impression it was a more generic page, where as I was linking to the precise model. Of course I did not realize one was legends and one was the canon. All is well--CC3636 (talk) 00:11, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

Re: BBY/ABY
Thanks for the info Brandon, I was wondering why there was no ABY or BBY anywhere! --CC3636 (talk) 21:31, March 3, 2015 (UTC)

Rebels episode guide picture
Hey Brandon. I saw you had uploaded some of these in the past so I figured I'd ask you. Basically I was just wondering how exactly you get the main picture before each Rebels episode guide as a full, high quality image? Fire Across the Galaxy hasn't been updated with its picture yet, and I'm afraid I'm not sure how to do it. Thanks! Cevan (talk) 23:07, March 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * You open up the main image of the Episode Guide in a new tab. You'll see a whole bunch of stuff after the ".jpg" part that includes height and width parameters. Remove everything after ".jpg" and that creates the full image. That said, I'm not sure what the protocol is for an episode like "Fire Across the Galaxy." For example, on Star Wars Rebels: Spark of Rebellion, we still use the poster, not the Episode Guide image, because that episode has a poster. "Fire Across the Galaxy" has a logo, so I'm thinking it should probably keep the logo. At least on the episode page itself. Star Wars Rebels: Season One should be updated with the Episode Guide image. Maybe ask on Talk:Fire Across the Galaxy? - Brandon Rhea (talk) 23:43, March 3, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Breha Organa
Thank you very much! It's probably full of typos, however. My spelling isn't that bad, but I've always had a hard time checking it properly on a screen. And as far as my grammar and syntax are concerned, well, I'm no native speaker of English. If you could have a look at those things at some point, that would be very nice of you. :-) (Actually, the hardest part is to include everything in the BTS without using the same phrases as in the Legends article.) --LelalMekha (talk) 20:12, March 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * I might do Evaan too, unless someone beats me to the punch. My editing habits don't make me very competitive; I always work very slowly, and often on multiple articles at a time. Since my command of the English language is less natural, I feel compelled to rework my sentences all the time. (And even that doesn't prevent typos. Darned screen!) --LelalMekha (talk) 20:21, March 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * For a short time, when the textless preview pages were released, I hoped that she might be Winter Celchu. Ah, well... One can dream, right? What I do hope, however, is that we'll learn more about the culture of Alderaan. --LelalMekha (talk) 21:00, March 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * Good. I don't think there's much more to add about Canon Breha for the time being, so I'll be working some more on the article tomorrow, and Bob's your uncle. --LelalMekha (talk) 22:32, March 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * Erm, yes, sorry. I didn't realize this was a strictly British English idiom. ^^' I should have stuck to "and it's done!" (I watch too much British TV, I guess.) --LelalMekha (talk) 22:45, March 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * I think Breha's article is ripe for a copy edit. ;-) Whenever you have a moment, you can just go with it. Thanks in advance. --LelalMekha (talk) 17:40, March 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Good. Thanks for your help. At last that article is up to date... for now. Let us hope she'll crop up more in the future. --LelalMekha (talk) 12:47, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

Lothal rebels - Cham Syndulla
Brandon - when you changed the source on the Lothal rebels page regarding Cham being Hera's father, you only used a ref name without the actual reference inside, one that would normally be used if the reference was already on the page earlier in the article. There's no actual reference, so it's broken at the bottom. ProfessorTofty (talk) 01:50, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

Templates for the Star Wars Rebels Magazine
Hello Brandon. Since the Star Wars Rebels Magazine is still fairly new (two issues as of today), I think it would be good to make it all clean and organized from the start. Because of that, I think we need a proper citation template for the stories and articles that appear in that magazine, like the one we use for the Star Wars Insider. However, I don't have the knowledge required to create such templates. Do you think you could make one? --LelalMekha (talk) 15:14, March 5, 2015 (UTC) Well before anything else, let's remember to avoid the idea that something is either Canon or Legends. There is another option, which is "this has no canonicity to it at all." It's the same way we treat the StarWars.com blogs; they're simply a regurgitation of information, in most cases, so they're not really Canon or Legends, even if they contain Canon or Legends information within them, unless they explicitly state otherwise (a recent blog about Max Rebo Band specifically labeled things as Canon or Legends, which was very nice to see).
 * I've tried to create templates like that in the past and, unfortunately, haven't been very successful, so I'm afraid I don't have the knowledge either. I'd reiterate what I said on Talk:Jango Fett, though; I question whether that magazine can be a canon source. Do we have any indication that there's any Lucasfilm/official involvement init? - Brandon Rhea (talk) 15:41, March 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry to butt in and join the conversation, but what will we do if they aren't considered canon? The magazine seems to be Disney approved, given that it has the logo and everything, so we should still document them, but surely counting them as legends makes no sense either. Would we need to have them as canon-non-canon pages? Ayrehead02 (talk) 16:28, March 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * After looking on Twitter, both the author and artist of "Learning Patience" responded to a fan saying the comics are canon. Twitter posts here. Ayrehead02 (talk) 16:54, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

The magazine, in and of itself, is neither Canon nor Legends. That's how we treat Insider as well, so we have to be careful with what information we include. We do the same thing with Insider. Take a recent example. I recently moved Madine to Crix Madine/Canon because Insider 155 used that name. Toprawa, however, correctly pointed out that Insider still often uses information from Legends. So, while Crix is likely his Canon name, until we see it in a clear Canon source we're better being safe than sorry. The name was therefore moved back to Madine.

If the Disney logo is on this Rebels UK magazine, then yeah it's fair game to include. I'd still treat it similarly to how we treat Insider, though. If there is information that originated in Legends, and we haven't seen that information in an official Canon source, then we shouldn't include that information. It's a safe assumption that in the case of both Insider and the Rebels UK magazines, the Story Group is only vetting the original fiction, not every single article. The articles would be much like the StarWars.com blogs, in my opinion.

So for now, I'd say treat the short story as Canon for sure, but don't use in-universe information from articles unless that information has canonically originated elsewhere. Better safe than sorry at some point, since the information that Lelal quoted from the magazine is, in many cases, just outright wrong. This also makes how we treat the Rebels UK magazine consistent with how we treat Insider.

Hope that helps. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 16:57, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

Canon articles with unsourced names
Hello! I'm bringing this over here so that, if/when the Koho/Canon page gets deleted, it can be referred to in the future. When we come across a Canon page that isn't named in a canonical source, how do we take care of it? Put a Delete tag on it with "Not named in a Canon source"? Or something else? Operative lm (talk) 00:41, March 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd put Confirm on it unless you're 100% sure that the character is unnamed anywhere. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 00:51, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Insider stories
Hello, Brandon. Unfortunately, you're a bit out of your luck on this one: while I do have a copy of the 156th issue, I don't have the one you're looking for, the one with Nakari. Sorry about that, my friend. :-/ --LelalMekha (talk) 21:22, March 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * No worries. Looks like Ayrehead02 was able to upload it. Thanks, Ayrehead02! - Brandon Rhea (talk) 22:39, March 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Glad you've found what you needed. :-) --LelalMekha (talk) 22:46, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

Attack on Imperial interrogator droids
Thanks, that's sweet of you! Good luck on the nomination. Since I would be sharing co-credit, I guess I should probably not vote on it as a conflict of interest, possibly. ProfessorTofty (talk) 11:11, March 13, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Card Trader
Will do, Brandon. Is there any one place where the discussion for how to classify it is being held? Cevan (talk) 20:24, March 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * Should a Senate Hall forum thread be made for it? Cevan (talk) 20:29, March 13, 2015 (UTC)

Categories
Sorry, I keep forgetting to add categories... Calvin Schubert (talk) 00:58, March 16, 2015 (UTC) Yeah I know, I got distracted halfway through and got sloppy...Congrats on 10,000 edits by the way! Calvin Schubert (talk) 01:04, March 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * Remember to add the eras template as well. For articles that don't have Legends equivalents, like the events of the new comics, use . For conjectural titles, remember to add  as well. -  Brandon Rhea (talk) 00:59, March 16, 2015 (UTC)

R series
The R series was first IDed in Canon by Gha Nackt in Downfall of a Droid. -  AV-6R7 User talk:AV-6R7 23:06, March 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. That was not sourced in R2 series astromech droid. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 23:10, March 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Anyways, the Canon version had no hyphen. -  AV-6R7 User talk:AV-6R7 23:32, March 21, 2015 (UTC)

Recent reversion
Hello Brandon, while admittedly I don't follow NuCanon, seeing your reversion of my Bast edit, I thought the rules for what counted as Canon sources were never exclusive to only things made after 4/25, but rather as of 4/25 only a limited amount of what used to be all one canon are to still remain canon, chiefly TCW and the 6 films. While most NuCanon sources were released after the date, I checked the Layout Guide and didn't see any statement that only post-4/25 sources are to be listed in Canon articles. I would think that any sources with the Canon tag should be there. And with the ANH SW.com page, perhaps that clip with Bast was just removed when the site was modified on 7/1, since it was there when I added it to Moradmin Bast's article before the site revamp. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 03:57, March 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey Hanzo. I've been told consistently by admins not to add anything from before April 25th. For example, I had wanted to add the reference book The Making of Return of the Jedi to a canon GAN that I wrote, and I was told to remove it. I don't really agree with this, but that's what I've been told. Hope that clarifies. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 04:02, March 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay that makes sense, assuming they specifically said that includes stuff that is given the Canon tag. You were also iffy about Bast's death in the film alone, but unlike Tagge, who was last onscreen before Alderaan's destruction, Bast was on the Death Star just seconds before it was destroyed. But I'm content with Vader #1 being used as the source. Just wondering, does whatever it apparently says to verify Bast's death apply to any other of those conference room Imperials? If so, damn shame Hurst Romodi and Trech Molock's fates were never established in Legends. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 04:07, March 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * It doesn't, no. The comic makes it sound like Tagge was the only one who escaped, but given that - as you said - that scene was before the Disaster and the Battle of Yavin, it's entirely possible any number of them left along with Tagge. I think the only one we know died for sure is Motti and maybe Yularen. The only reason I added Vader #1 as a tighter source is because Sidious calls Vader the only survivor of the catastrophe, and we see Bast on screen in the film just before the station's destruction. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 04:11, March 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. So it sounds like no more tons of Canon Death Star evacuees, or was that statement only for the Death Star's leadership? Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 04:19, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for the Wookiee Cookiee! -  AV-6R7 User talk:AV-6R7 17:09, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Thanks for your hard work
No problem, just looked like you needed some help. :) Coruscantfan (Talk) 17:29, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

Wookiee cookie
Thanks, it was delicious! Happy to help out. I'll probably create some more this evening. ProfessorTofty (talk) 21:16, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

Categorizing confusion
Hey, do you know if there is anywhere that outlines how to add the factions and such to articles like Secret mission to Geonosis? I was comparing it to Secret mission to Tatooine and still did it wrong, help! Thanks! And just to be fair I thought Aphra's quote was funny so I used it, so there! :P Calvin Schubert (talk)  00:26, March 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't get me wrong regarding the quote. In the context of the comic, when you see everything about the character and her bumbling personality, it is definitely funny. She's a well-written character so far. But out of context, when you can't see the other dialogue from that scene, it looks like a relationship-focused quote. That's why I said it felt like a cliched stereotype, because female characters are too often defined by their relationships (romantic or otherwise) with male characters. I changed the quote in order to avoid that perception on the article, because the quote, out of context, created that perception. Now, as for the infobox, the big things I noticed in editing the mission articles you've made are as follows:
 * You only need to use bullet points in a list. If there's only one item, such as in each faction box or in the objectives section, you don't need a bullet.
 * You made easily correctable spelling errors. Be sure to spell check before you hit Publish. Obviously you'll miss some things sometimes (I do too) but I've noticed you misspelling easy words like Anakin and Skywalker. Easy fix, just need to be cognizant of it.
 * Remember to only capitalize proper nouns. For example, you've said "1 Archaeologist" even though archaeologist is not a proper noun.
 * Those are the big things I've noticed. Was there something else in particular you were thinking of regarding infoboxes? - Brandon Rhea (talk) 00:43, March 29, 2015 (UTC)


 * Well, that's a good argument for the quote, (although I wasn't going to argue anyway) and as far as the infoboxes go that about covers my questions/complaints. My desktop has a large mechanical keyboard meant for gaming, (Counter-Strike FTW) so the keys are cherry MX whatever and trigger very easily; hence the sloppy typing. That about covers it Brandon, thanks!  Calvin Schubert (talk)  01:15, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

Steam group?
While on the off-topic subject of PC gaming...do you think it would be acceptable to create a Steam group for Wookieepedia? Primarily a private group where editors like you and I could easily organize events and keep track of each other? When Battlefront and other games hit the market I want to step on all you people in an AT-AT...jus' sayin. If you don't know what Steam is I'm not even going to try to explain it. (Sorry, I'm terrible at that kinda thing.) Here's a link:http://store.steampowered.com/ Calvin Schubert (talk)  01:15, March 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * You could ask in the Senate Hall. I'm not a gamer so it wouldn't really apply to me. I likely won't play the new Battlefront anyway; my most advanced console is a PlayStation 2. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 01:17, March 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry to burst your bubble, but it appears that any new Star Wars title on the PC will be available only on Origin. -  AV-6R7 User talk:AV-6R7 01:18, March 29, 2015 (UTC)


 * I can post something in the Senate Hall too. I'm just wondering your "professional" opinion. Calvin Schubert (talk)  01:19, March 29, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah, Origin and Ea, the perfect pair! You can easily add non-Steam games to Steam using that icon on the bottom left corner, so I'm expecting that to be an exceptional antidote to the Origin *shudder* problem.  Calvin Schubert (talk)  01:24, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

Re: my opinion, I don't know enough about Steam or what it involves to really have an opinion. An SH thread is your best bet. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 01:26, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

For Batman
Batman has shown great goodness in many aspects of helping users (such as myself) in Wookieepediafying and Wookieepediawriting. Batman deserves this here gold star. Sorry, I'm a total noob with awards! Calvin Schubert (talk) 03:15, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

Re:The Two Ghost Missions
Sounds good Brandon; thanks for clarifying! Cevan (talk) 18:06, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

Wikia help question
Hello Brandon! I have long toyed with the idea of adopting the derelict Willow Wiki, and it looks like my adoption request is about to have good results (as soon as I have the only other remaining user's formal approval, which I know he will give from our last conversations ). However, there are a few things I'm worried about. Unfortunately, I lack the technical acumen to make proper infoboxes and a better image upload form (one that includes so nicely the source, licensing and category entries). I wondered if you could direct me toward someone who could help. Although I doubt I can bring the Willow Wiki back to life, I'm still willing to have a go. --LelalMekha (talk) 21:02, April 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey Lelal. Sorry about the delay in replying. Forgot about this message. I'm glad to see that you're adopting Willow Wiki. So far as Wookieepedians go, Cade would likely be able to help you with infoboxes. Possibly the image upload as well - though if not, Master Jonathan might know. If Wookieepedians are unable to help then you could ask in the Community Central Forum, to seek assistance from other Wikians. I hope one of those options helps. Good luck with Willow Wiki! - Brandon Rhea (talk) 10:50, April 12, 2015 (UTC)

Celebration Anaheim
Hi Brandon, thanks for the response. I am fully aware that the table is run by Wikia and have no problem about that, after all, I do have a Wikia account and I know that many small wikis would not exist without Wikia's support. Also, the issue with Jedipedia.de was caused mostly because of a quarrel with our old webmaster and has not so much to do with Wikia.

Even though I have Jedipedia shirts, I will intentionally not wear them so that there is no conflict of interest. I was planning on wearing normal Star Wars shirts but if you are producing Wookieepedia shirts, that would be even better! I do have my email address stored with Wikia so you should be able to contact me that way, but if not let me know if you need my email address. See you at Celebration, C-3P0 (talk) 01:06, April 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * My size is XL, hope you still have a shirt for me. :-) --C-3P0 (talk) 10:32, April 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! We'll definitely have a shirt for you one way or another. Just not sure which design it'll be yet. They're pretty similar, though. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 14:21, April 7, 2015 (UTC)

Crispus Commons
Brandon, since you supported my nomination for Crispus Commons, just thought I'd let you know that I made a couple of updates based on some new information in case you want to have a look. Thanks! ProfessorTofty (talk) 01:44, April 9, 2015 (UTC)

Bane


I've been going through the Season 6 articles and upgrading any lower quality images with blu ray screenshots. I almost changed the infobox image for Darth Bane/Canon before I noticed that it was an article taken to GA status by you. Congrats on getting the fist Canon article to status quality, BTW. So, here is the the image I wanted to place in the infobox for Darth Bane. If you approve, you can place it there, or let me know and I'll put it in. This image is just much sharper and shows he spectre more clearly. -  JMAS  Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 04:47, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * NM, I see you've already jumped on it. :) -  JMAS  Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 04:48, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yup. I saw it was sitting for a few minutes and I anticipated that its status was the reason for the delay, so I decided to be proactive. Thanks for uploading it. It's a great image. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 04:51, April 14, 2015 (UTC)

Blogs and video
Hey Brandon. Just want to let you know that I have closed Forum:CT Archive/Wookieepedia's Coverage of Celebration Programming as consensus in favor of the proposal. Please feel free to set things up as laid out in that thread. &mdash;MJ&mdash; Comlink 06:29, April 15, 2015 (UTC)

Trailer fan reaction comments
Brandon, your trailer blog invites us to post our thoughts in the comments, but it appears comments haven't been enabled. ProfessorTofty (talk) 06:07, April 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm aware. It's been fixed. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 06:21, April 17, 2015 (UTC)

Ultimate Star Wars
Ah, what's this, Brandon? Did you get your mitts on an advance copy of Ultimate Star Wars at the Celebration? ProfessorTofty (talk) 04:45, April 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yup. They were selling Ultimate Star Wars and Lords of the Sith early. Ultimate Star Wars has lots of homeworld re-canonization, as well as lots of full character names. There's going to be a ton of page moves in the near future. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 04:52, April 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Lords of the Sith, also? Wow. Well, congrats on that. Just a little more than a week to go for us non-Celebration goers. I got a Kindle late last year, but I'm really considering the print copy of Lords of the Sith just for that spectacular cover. ProfessorTofty (talk) 04:57, April 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * If there are advanced copies of Lords of the Sith now in circulation can we start writing articles for it? I have a full appearances list ready to add to the article already. Also any major changes from legends in USW like name changes or anything? Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:58, April 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, you can post about Lords of the Sith. As for names in Ultimate Star Wars, the biggest thing is giving canonical first names and homeworlds to characters who didn't have them in Legends. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 14:42, April 20, 2015 (UTC)

Filling in Missing Canon pages
I'm sure you've been following along, but the list of missing canon pages is now empty. Yippee! Now we can finally move on to discussing what needs to be done next as far as whether we still need to do more, or it's time to move things along to the next stage. ProfessorTofty (talk) 16:58, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Duel on Zanbar
Hey Brandon. Yeah, that's true. However, it still seems like it might be enough to provide official confirmation for the name, even though the description is referring to the Dathomir battle. I haven't gotten all the way through the book yet, but I think the event, at least, might be referred to again at some point.  CC7567  (talk) 01:28, April 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * Alright, I see your point. I'll revert the edit. And yeah, there are a number of errors in this book. I guess it's understandable since it's so comprehensive, but as someone who cares about the details, I'm a little disappointed that there wasn't more proper proofreading done.  CC7567  (talk) 01:33, April 30, 2015 (UTC)

Oops
Sorry, I added a link to Alderaan vigil rioting on the Mission to rescue the survivors of Alderaan. {Inuse) my bad. Nivlacanator (talk)  03:56, April 30, 2015 (UTC)

Attack on Imperial interrogator droids

 * Thank you, I'll do that! And nice job on doing the rest of the legwork and getting it to be a good article. ProfessorTofty (talk) 15:44, April 30, 2015 (UTC)

Project Harvester
Well, first off, I just wanna say -- read Servants of the Empire as soon as possible. ;) It's very good, and for those of us that are big on the new canon material, it's packed with lots of good stuff. Now, as far as Project Harvester goes, there really isn't much more to say than what there is in the article right now. I suspect we won't be getting most of the good details until we get to Imperial Justice and The Secret Academy. All we really know right now is what it says already on the page about Project Harvester - that it's a secret project by the Galactic Empire to capture Force-sensitives and that the Inquisitor was in it. And that the Arkanis Academy is involved with it as well, but it's not really clear what happens once somebody is drawn into it, since we don't really know anything concrete yet about what actually happened to Zare's sister Dhara. Presumably she's at this academy, maybe being trained to be a dark-side Inquisitor or something, but we don't really have the details on that. ProfessorTofty (talk) 20:34, May 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, just sort of what I speculated above, I think. The reason that the article for it lists Spark of Rebellion as in indirect mention is because of the bit about the Inquisitor being told to hunt down Force-sensitive children, which is taken to mean this. Also, in the book, the Inquisitor talks with Zare Leonis after what happened in "Breaking Ranks," tries to get a bead on whether or not he might be Force-sensitive, since he didn't really see any evidence of it in Zare's performance in the academy. And Zare tries to pretend by saying that he could sense her presence, which was something that she could with him, but he could never do with her. That, and claiming to have had vague dreams about what happened to her. So I think Project Harvester is really just that - about identifying these Force-sensitives and trying to press them into work for the Empire. Who knows, maybe Dhara is even one of those Inquisitors we see in the second season? Totally guessing, but could be. ProfessorTofty (talk) 20:45, May 3, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Attack on the Jedi Temple
I found it in the index section. I'll have a look again and tell you what page the name is on. Jaewade (talk) 15:16, May 7, 2015 (UTC) ...and attack on Jedi Temple 171 ...Actually I kinda misread it, there's no "the" in the sentence. Shall I move the page? Jaewade (talk) 15:22, May 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * It's on page 319 in Y section!
 * I don't think so. The glossary (which probably, in and of itself, isn't the best place to decide whether it's an actual name) is not using that as a proper name, so we shouldn't take it as such. Especially when the term is not used on page 171 or, so far as we can tell, anywhere else in the book. I'd remove and re-add the conjectural tag. -  Brandon Rhea (talk) 15:26, May 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh OK. Never thought of that. Jaewade (talk) 15:31, May 7, 2015 (UTC)

The Old Episode Guides
I noticed that the older episode guides were removed from Gha Nachkt/Canon. I thought that they were still considered to be a Canon source, though, per articles like Delta Squad/Canon and it's related pages. Or is that more of a case by case basis? --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 16:35, May 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey. I just removed it from the sources of the Delta Squad page too. :) They can be used to reference things, like behind the scenes facts, but the standard practice/policy has to been to draw the line at April 25, 2014 when it comes to placing things in sources/bibliographies. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 17:00, May 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Alright, fair enough. Thanks, mate. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 17:02, May 7, 2015 (UTC)

IRC
Hey there Brandon, can you come on IRC please ? if you aren'T too busy at the moment.-- Emperor Jarjarkine   Senate Hall  16:51, May 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * Can't at the moment. Sorry. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 17:01, May 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay ! Emperor Jarjarkine  MP-Mandalorian.png  Senate Hall  17:15, May 9, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Force Awakens spoiler template
Alright, that sounds like a good idea to me. Thanks! See you there shortly. ProfessorTofty (talk) 23:51, May 16, 2015 (UTC)

Mission to find Aphra
Should there be an article for Vader's search for Aphra that we saw in that flashback in Vader, Part III? It's definitely a different event than Mission to steal the Triple-Zero personality matrix, although I haven't been treating them as such. Thanks! Nivlacanator (talk) 04:28, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

Er, help?
Hey Brandon. I need some help on SWFanon, and since you were unresponsive there I'll ask you here. Someone created a page that was part of my story. This is the page I mean. 

Plenty of my pages link to it but someone created the page without my authorization or by using my idea, can you do something about this please? Nicktc 21:54, May 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * I didn't see a message on SWFanon. Can you resend me a message on my wall there? Wookieepedia talk pages should be used for discussing Wookieepedia. Thanks! - Brandon Rhea (talk) 21:57, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

Inuse apology
ey Brandon, just apologizing for the quick infobox edit on Cylo-V, I hope it didn't disrupt you. I DID see the inuse tag, but since the last edit was approximately 3 hrs ago I thought it would be ok if I jumped in quickly and fixed the infobox. If i created an edit conflict because of this, I really do apologize. Manoof (talk) 06:19, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * No edit conflict, no harm done! - Brandon Rhea (talk) 12:58, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

Writing Biographies
My apologies for removing those footnotes from Beck Ollet's article. I was a bit unsure about how much detail to write into biographies for Wookieepedia articles. Usually, I write a short and brief intro and a more detailed biography in the main body. I'm also working on the Zare Leonis article, focusing on his life before joining the Imperial Academy on Lothal. Let me know your thoughts on this matter. Andykatib 04:53, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The issue with the Beck Ollet article was more about how there was an intro but no biography section. As a result, when you removed the references, you made it into a virtually referenceless article (save for the infobox). All of the text that was there would be fine for an intro if there was also a biography section, but there wasn't a bio section. That's why I split it up and made most of the intro into a bio section. If you want to write an actual biography section then you can always return the current text to the introduction. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 05:21, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, I now see your point. I'll be more careful when writing biography sections. Thanks very much for your clarification. Andykatib 05:33, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Doom in Tiplar's article
Hey Brandon. I've been adding Databank entries to some TCW articles, and I noticed that your Tiplee/Canon article doesn't make mention of Commander Doom. Hi Databank entry states that he served with Tiplee and Tiplar, and whether or not that means he was their assigned clone commander (that's a little ambiguous), I think he's at least worth mentioning somewhere in Tiplee's article. What do you think?  CC7567  (talk) 06:29, May 31, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look at those few minutes of the episode again as a refresher, to see what the relevant Doom/Tiplee interaction may be (beyond just a passing mention in the article). I'll then update the page. Nice catch. Also, great job on Template:Canon Clone Wars. Looks awesome. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 16:46, May 31, 2015 (UTC)
 * I just watched the Ringo Vinda sequence in "The Unknown" to check for anything relating to Doom that might be noteworthy in the Tiplee article. Other than also being present at the battle and the pre-battle briefing, as well as commanding at least some of the forces, there's no real connection between them. I'm not sure there's anything of note to add. What do you think? - Brandon Rhea (talk) 01:30, June 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * On the contrary, I think the fact that he commands some of their forces is a valid connection. To return to his Databank entry, the fact that he "served alongside the twin Jedi Masters Tiplar and Tiplee" is introduced prior to any mention of the events at Ringo Vinda, which indicates (or at least implies) that he served with the twins prior to Ringo Vinda. I realize that's a rather literal interpretation of the semantics of the Databank entry, but the fact remains that he was part of the leadership for Tiplee's forces, at Ringo Vinda and possibly prior to then. Even if there isn't specific dialogue or noticeable interaction between Tiplee and Doom in the episode, his role in the military chain of command still makes him relevant enough to be mentioned somewhere. It can be as short as something like, "Tiplee and her sister served alongside Clone Commander Doom," based on what his Databank entry says. It wouldn't hurt, at the very least.  CC7567  (talk) 01:49, June 1, 2015 (UTC)

goaway

 * Aha! Finally, congratulations! Nivlacanator (talk)  00:53, June 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Also, I just realized what Cade titled this section. loooooool - Brandon Rhea (talk) 00:57, June 6, 2015 (UTC)

Generating the Table of Contents
Usually, when a header is added to an article such as "Description," a Table of Contents is automatically generated for the article. However, sometimes it dones't always happen, like in this article. Why is that? Is there something blocking the TOC?-- Richterbelmont10  ( come in R2! ) 17:40, June 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * There needs to be four sections in order for a table of contents to appear. That one only has three, so a TOC won't appear. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 17:43, June 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. Is there any way to force a TOC generation?-- Richterbelmont10  R2 sig.jpg( come in R2! ) 17:50, June 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * You would use right above the first header, but that only really needs to be done if the sections are really long. In the case of Cannon, what should happen there is that someone adds a "Notes and references" section, which is currently missing, at which point there will be a table of contents. -  Brandon Rhea (talk) 17:55, June 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * The Sources and Appearances sections are long for me in that article, but that's because I killed scrollboxes in my viewing preferences, which I usually find advantageous. I suppose I can dig up a reference and make a Notes and references section.-- Richterbelmont10  R2 sig.jpg( come in R2! ) 18:01, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

StarWars.com Snoke quote
Hey Brandon! I was just curious as to where on StarWars.com Snoke's quote from The Force Awakens, "There's been an awakening..." is. Thanks! Cevan (talk) 17:10, June 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey. There's a link in the template's page history, from one of my previous reversions. You can see it there. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 17:22, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

Canon Clone Wars template
Hey Brandon. Regarding your recent addition of the mission to Moraband to Canon Clone Wars, I wanted to confirm that the template is specifically intended for events that were directly part of the war, as opposed to events that simply took place during its time period. Not everything that happens during the war's three-year span is automatically part of the larger war. Although that criteria is not exclusive to direct Republic–Separatist confrontations, it does necessitate that each event display some involvement from either of the major war efforts (e.g. Republic or Separatist), or the major players of the war. While Yoda and Sidious do meet the latter criteria, Yoda's mission to Moraband is an isolated incident (a personal journey on Yoda's part) that takes place during the span of the war, without being directly part of the war itself. That's not to say that Yoda's mission doesn't have an effect on the overall war; we can assume it does. All I'm saying is that it's best to be discriminatory toward what's included in the Clone Wars template, both to ensure that the template doesn't end up being unwieldy in length and also to stick to a specific criteria for what it includes, which I think is necessary here. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks!  CC7567  (talk) 01:22, June 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree about discretion. However, while it is part of Yoda's personal journey to learn the secrets of immortality, that mission strikes at the very heart of the Clone Wars. That's the culmination of Yoda's quest to try to learn the identity of Darth Sidious (arguably his biggest objective in that arc&mdash;he even asked Qui-Gon who the Sith Lord was, in the midst of this major discovery about immortality&mdash;before realizing the errors of the Jedi). It's also the mission, as I hinted to a moment ago, in which he comes to realize that the Jedi are going to lose the war by virtue of having simply fought it. It's also an attempt by the Sith to break or destroy Yoda in order to make it easier to destroy the Jedi, which is the ultimate goal of the Sith in the war. So while it's not a major battle in terms of its scope, I would argue that it's one of the most important events of the entire war. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 01:29, June 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't mean to discount the event's importance to the war itself based on the involvement of Yoda and the Sith; I agree that in that way, it's relevant to the war. However, while the Sith's goal of breaking Yoda does align with their overall objective for using the Clone Wars to undermine the Jedi, that doesn't necessarily make the event part of the war. The event is definitely part of the Sith's larger campaign to defeat the Jedi, but the scope of that campaign isn't limited to the Clone Wars; it's possible for the Sith's manipulations to occur outside of the war. There's a difference between the mission to Moraband and, say, the mission to Oba Diah, which has a more direct impact on the war, specifically regarding the Jedi's decision to continue their war effort in spite of unraveling some of the Sith's manipulations. While I do agree that Yoda's personal growth through the story arc (and the mission to Moraband) is quite significant, the fact remains that, at least based on what the source material has shown, the event doesn't have as direct an impact on the war like the larger battles, conflicts, and even diplomatic missions and intrigues (such as the mission to Cato Neimoidia and the mission to Scipio) do. I think it's more appropriate to categorize the mission to Moraband as a Jedi–Sith confrontation, which means that it's definitely relevant to the war but isn't necessarily part of it.  CC7567  (talk) 01:54, June 12, 2015 (UTC)