Talk:SuperShadow

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Vote for renaming
See below for th MickeySuttle/SuperShadow discussion.

So, should the article be renamed or not? I'm for, as it conforms to the naming policy. - Sikon [ Talk ] 19:19, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Renaming Vote
Vote

For

 * 1) Jasca Ducato 19:22, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) One page only, listed under Mickey Suttle. &mdash;Darth Culator   (talk)  20:53, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Against

 * --Darth Mantus 12:41, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Neutral/Comments

 * I'm pretty satisfied by the evidence presented that StuporShadow.com is indeed run by Suttle. However, it still seems to me that Suttle and his website are two different things. Should we have two different articles - Mickey Suttle and SuperShadow (or SuperShadow.com, with Supershadow as a disambig for the two), or just one (in which case my vote is in favor of the move)? jSarek 20:42, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

VfD
On April 28, 2005, this article was nominated for deletion. The result was Keep. See Votes for deletion/SuperShadow for a record of the discussion. -- Riffsyphon1024 05:49, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Image
Does anyone know where that image of him came from? I'm surprised that it was allowed to get out. There's a discussion at Wikipedia as to where a source proving that is him is. Adamwankenobi 13:03, 6 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * I believe we should follow the example of Wikipedia, and remove the photo until we have a source. I'm the least happy about this, but it only makes sense to have only pictures that are backed up by sources. CantorOrion 23:05, 22 Dic 2005 (UTC)
 * The source is Ghepetto Kitchens where Mickey worked, but the picture was removed so he was obviously fired or he quit. Brandon Rhea 00:06, 31 March 2006 (UTC)


 * We should use a much uglier picture anyway. I mean, he makes up everything he says/shows, I say we put up a photoshopped picture of him as a balding, obese, unwashed, and unshaven 54 year old.

FAQ
Should we add something about how the FAQ addresses Suttle in a fawning, self congratulatory manner, and how he is sometimes abusive toward his fans? -- SFH 00:38, 12 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Answer SS-related questions on Answerbag
Many rely on Answerbag for, well of course, answers. More SW fans need to know the truth behind SS. There are SS-related questions that need answering and debunking of already-posted answers. Please answer the following with the truth:

"Who is Supershadow of supershadow.com?" (misconception needs debunking)

"Are there any independent sources that verify the claims SuperShadow makes on www.supershadow.com? Namely, that he is a high-paid Lucasfilm consultant and personal friend of George Lucas?"

"If scripts 7, 8, and 9 are already written and George Lucas wants to do other films than Star Wars, can't they get some other talented producer/director to make them in the same mood and style as the first six?" (An SS-related answer also needs debunking)

"Where can I find the books that tell the story of Episodes 7-9?' (Another SS-related answer, needing to be debunked.)

Answering requires creating an account first, but it is well worth the effort of letting fellow AB users know the truth behind Supershadow.

If you have anything to say about it, reply to my talk page on Wikipedia. --68.102.193.78 04:33, 7 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Kaleesh
I was reading his "George Lucas" Q&A, and on November 25, "Lucas" said that Grievous' species were the Kaleesh. We should probably update the section. -- SFH 02:42, 19 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh it already has been. Never mind. -- SFH 02:45, 19 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Grievous' species is Kaleesh. That's not a SuperShadow lie. Brandon Rhea 00:08, 31 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I know, but he had originally said that they were something else, though the name escapes me (something stupid sounding). -- SFH 00:10, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Omnix Patra. Or something like that. *rolls eyes*--Erl 16:01, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Fictional Bio
Maybe we could make a fictional bio of "Nebar Foxis". In his biography, we can put him as a renagade jedi who made his (false) philosiphy, and looked for force-powerful children to teach. Fireball93 00:26, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
 * No. Wookieepedia is not the place to put fanon. --Imp 00:53, 21 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * I learned that the hard way. I was banned on my first Day!!! Thanks Imp. Like I knew all the rules. WELCOME TO WOOKIEPEDIA FOLKS!!

I'm sorry. I lost my temper.

FB93

NPOV

 * This article can just wear an NPOV tag forever if people are going to be oversensitive about it. It's perfect as it is. You can't expose someone as a liar and a fraud without sounding at least a little biased. &mdash;Darth Culator   (talk)  18:03, 13 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Anyways, he deserves to be ripped apart (unfortunately not physically). But still, if someone adds a REALLY offensive comment than just revert it. Jasca Ducato 18:18, 13 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * You know, after reading the Wikipedia article, I think their article is more biased against him than we are. -- SFH 21:25, 13 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Regardless of his actions, this wiki follows a neutral POV. Just 'cause we all hate him doesn't mean we can break the rules. --Imp 14:47, 17 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed. There are plenty of ways to expose someone as a liar without being biased against him. You must let go of your fear that anyone will believe him. Fear leads to Anger. Anger leads to Hate. Hate leads to suffering. ;-) Weak minded fools who believe some random web loser's claims of glory and fame is going to believe almost anything. --SparqMan 17:29, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

New quote
As much as I loved the old quote, the new one is much better. StupidShadow crap is banned from discussion on the official site, for Xendor's sake! He's officially a "big fraud"! How much more clearly do the noobs need them to say it? &mdash;Darth Culator  (talk)  18:15, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * It's still inappropriate. We should really be trying this page as neutral as we can. You can say he is a fraud and remain neutral. Say it, support it with facts. End of story. These quotes that everyone keeps putting up are childish and make this place look bad. The problem is not SuperShadow. While I agree it's frustrating what he has done/is doing the problem is really the retards who believe him. The man is entitled to spout whatever nonsense he wants on his own site. He pays for the webspace he can do what he wants wth it. Anyway, the quote should be taken down.--DannyBoy7783 21:57, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * It's an official policy from the discussion board on the official site. That doesn't need to be supported, it is a fact. &mdash;Darth Culator   (talk)  23:11, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying the quote needs to be supported. That wouldn't make any sense at all. I'm saying in general. That is what we do here - present information and when necessary back it up. Anyway, the quote is just ridiculous. It becomes inappropriate for posting at this wiki because of the wording. Put the information that topics on him aren't allowed in the article on him but not the quote. This is a site about facts not opinions. You guys can do whatever you want but it makes wookieepedia look bad when you have attacks like that.--DannyBoy7783 00:51, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
 * "He's more machine now than man; twisted and evil." "Will somebody get this big walking carpet out of my way?" "He is the Chosen One. You must see it." "He's a card player, gambler, scoundrel. You'd like him." When has the lead quote of an article been anything BUT an opinion? SM-716 01:09, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
 * How often has the lead quote been about a real person and not in-universe?--DannyBoy7783 02:51, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Point taken. But it is still a fact that a moderator on the official site said that about SuperShadow. The quote itself expresses Lad's opinion of SS, but it is still a proven fact that the quote was made. So what would be the solution? I guess if anyone can find a positive quote about SS from someone in a position of relative authority in the Star Wars community, add it to the top of the article. SM-716 21:42, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
 * While that's a good idea it's probably unlikely. The factual basis of that quote should be incorporated into the article but the quote should be removed (I think).--DannyBoy7783 00:43, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Any Point?
Is there any point to linking to the Wikipedia article? It's identical to this one.--Vercalos 03:53, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * There are slight differences, unless they've copied us. -- Riffsyphon1024 04:18, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah.. Looks like they copied it.--Vercalos 04:20, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Mickey Suttle
Does anybody else here think we should change the title of this article to "Mickey Suttle"? I mean:- Any thoughts? Jasca Ducato 15:37, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) It is his real name and he has not always used the persona SuperShadow, so it would fit in with Wiki policy.
 * 2)It would help convince people who come to Wookipedia and type in SuperShadow when the see the name Mickey Suttle glaring at them!
 * That's probably a good idea. &mdash;Darth Culator   (talk)  18:52, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Good, if nobody objects by the 28th then i'll change the article title. Jasca Ducato 18:39, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Much like the picture below, do we have any real confirmation that Suttle is StuporShadow? If not, we may want to hold off on moving the article. jSarek 19:50, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * We also need proof that that pic is actually him. Otherwise, it's caption will have to read "an alleged picture of Suttle." Adamwankenobi 20:36, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * He's best known as SuperShadow. I don't really see the advantage of moving it. &mdash; Silly Dan 22:42, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, Mitth'raw'nuruodo is best known as Thrawn, Qymaen jai Sheelal is best known as Grievous, and the Alliance to Restore the Republic is best known as the Rebel Alliance, but their articles are placed under their true names, not their best known names. If Mr. Suttle is, indeed, SuperShadow, then we should probably use that name for him. jSarek 02:32, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Thankyou jSarek. And i know i cant provide a source (yet). That picture is Mickey Suttle. I'll keep looking for a source but plenty of sites have that picture when regarding SadoShadow. Jasca Ducato 18:44, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Ermm, since no-one has actually opposed the moving of the article... I'll check back at 6:00pm GMT and if no-one has yet opposed then i'll move the article. Jasca Ducato 09:22, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Consider me opposing until we can confirm his identity in some way. That said, I also wonder if, even if we do confirm his name, we shouldn't instead create two articles, one about the site and the other about its creator, much as we've done for theforce.net or some of the other fan sites. jSarek 09:36, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't that just give more talk pages for us to complain about him? -- SFH 18:42, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Thats true SFH. I have some sources if you want to take a look.
 * 1) &mdash;   (Look at the   SS  logo he puts on the page)
 * 2) &mdash;  (Read section 2)

And follow this link, and this one. Thats all i've got time to look for at the moment but i'm say yes to a move.

P.S. Mickey Suttle is SadoShadow. Jasca Ducato 21:19, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * You can even look up the owner of supershadow.com, and it says right there it's him. CooperTFN 21:27, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Is that proof enough? It CooperTFN also says in the discussion below that the picture was found on the website he worked at, so it is a picture of him. That's more than enough evidence, i think, to warrant me changing the article title. Jasca Ducato
 * Seeing as no-one had opposed the move save jSarek, and i have supplied him with sutible proof and sources, and i have given him a whole day to leave a message here. I'm moving both the article and its talk page over to Mickey Suttle and Talk:Mickey Suttle respectively if anybody still wishes to discuss it. Jasca Ducato 19:43, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
 * One day is not enough for a vote to be held or a decision to be made, so I am reverting it. My reasons are mainly due to the number of titles that now double redirect to it. -- Riffsyphon1024 04:44, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Fine then, despite the fact that its wiki policy to change his name. If you want a vote lets have one, i vote move to Mickey Suttle! Jasca Ducato 08:58, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Look, if your not actually going to even reply to this message then i'll just change the article back to Mickey Suttle! Jasca Ducato 18:44, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty satisfied by the evidence presented that StuporShadow.com is indeed run by Suttle. However, my second point - that Suttle and his website are two different things - hasn't fully been addressed.  Should we have two different articles - Mickey Suttle and SuperShadow (or SuperShadow.com, with Supershadow as a disambig for the two), or just one (in which case I concur it should probably be at Mickey Suttle)? jSarek 12:10, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Please could anybody with any view on this problem please see the renaming vote at the top of the page, Thankyou. Jasca Ducato 19:42, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Picture
Sites say that's the real SS at the computer, but do we have any proof of this?
 * It's from the website of the company he works for, but it's been taken down since it was first discovered. CooperTFN 21:28, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Yuuzhan Vong
Is it really noteworthy that he doesn't consider the Vong to be canon? It's not really that terrible, considering some of the other stuff he's pulled. -- SFH 00:35, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

"the wookipedia traitor"
i would be a little more careful about what we say that shadow cant see, this guy made a comment to shadow, today, dont ask how i know he said it. but he apparently was ad maybe still is a high level person on this site, so be careful now, ok, this guy is obbsed with shadow, and could tell him secret things...
 * What Wookieepedia secrets do we have, anyway? It's a freely accessible wiki, for pete's sake. &mdash; Silly Dan 22:55, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * That's nice. Now guess how much we care. Give up? Not a whole hell of a lot, that's how much. Unless Angela is actually StupidShadow in drag, there's exactly nothing to worry about. &mdash;Darth Culator   (talk)  22:58, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

it merged with this section for some reason, ok...

i warned you, we have to end this is, shadow is to annoying... he pulls to much stuff...

we either declare a all out war on shadow, or somehow let lucas on him...

ok, we need to do a war where we slowly get rid of his ideas that are fake, ok...
 * "we have to end this". Why? It sounds like you want this to end because you like and/or believe SuperShadow. Admiral J. Nebulax 00:06, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Sounds to me more like "68" dislikes him. Who doesn't?  &mdash; Silly Dan 00:11, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Honestly, who cares?--DannyBoy7783 03:48, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Meh. But it would be cool to wipe him of the face of the internet.-user:remoh


 * I agree... but seriously, who believes him? I don't and would never! User: Ruffles
 * I agree with remoh, it would be nice. But Reuufles, the problem is that quite alot of people believe him, maybe nobody here on Wookiepedia. But everywhere else... That's the problem, he's not just some stuck up, self-indulgent dick who thinks he's above even George Lucas when it comes to Star Wars canonicity. He's a stuck up, self-indulgent dick who thinks he's above even George Lucas when it comes to Star Wars canonicity with a massive fan base behind him! It's sickening! Jasca Ducato 09:03, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I know, sometimes people are just a teensie bit guillable, but anyway that's why we are here, to correct stupid things like that and put the REAL stuff in.User:Ruffles


 * i bet nebulax is super shadow in disguise.

Idiotic Statements
Here is one of the stupidest things I have seen in a long time... (I can't figure out quote boxes yet.)

Hey SS, since Luke's kid is the grandson of the chosen one couldn't he have dormant Force powers that allow him to bring characters like Anakin, Darth Maul, The Emperor that created the double-bladed light saber, Palpatine, Yoda and Jango back to life and turn to the dark side when Luke becomes emperor and create a Darth Vader that has no memory of Anakin Skywalker. (SuperShadow: I can see this happening. Anything is possible. You have a vivid imagination that is very impressive. This idea will be forwarded to Lucas.)

What a fool. -- Doo Doo 08:12, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

What about this?

SS: There is zero chance Anakin used the dark side to defeat Dooku. Anakin remained focused and this caused his vctory. 0% percent chance of persuading me otheriwse.

A fan objects...

SS: I suppose it could have happned, great idea.


 * There's always "My I.Q. is 4.7 million, which makes me the greatest massive super genius in the Universe. I’m not bragging mind you." -LtNOWIS 21:06, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Talk about self-contradictory. He basically just proved his has a low IQ in that one sentence bragging about how high it is. Correct me if i'm wrong but i don't think "the greatest massive super genius" is correct English, which requires a decently standard IQ! Jasca Ducato 08:28, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Very, very, VERY Sad
Is it just me, or is it sad that we have a whole page devoted to some stupid fan?
 * This is here to inform the general population of his idiocy. -- Riffsyphon1024 18:22, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * It's sad that it's necessary&mdash;but it is necessary. &mdash;Darth Culator   (talk)  19:14, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Mr./Ms. Untitled! I mean I was just about to make a new headline probably saying something like "What the...?" I understand this site has already gone through the "vfd" process, but why should a fan get his own page? I thought this wikicity was on characters, events, THINGS...from Star Wars. The only out-of-universe articles are about templates or user pages or "wookifying" type methods or "the ways things are done 'round here". There should be NO page on a fan. Seriously...Mr./Ms. Untitled and I should have regular pages just for ourselves too then! This page is one of those definitely helping to slowly bring down Wookieepedia. HE HAS HIS OWN PAGE! We're always saying how NOT to usually believe what SuperShadow says. For being a mysterious, contraversial figure he gets an article written and disputed over him? It shouldn't exist! Wolfdog 06:09, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
 * We can't simply ignore him. If he's ignored his fanon creations will slip into the canon wiki and mess everything up without having the ability to check against them. -- Riffsyphon1024 06:17, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey, I know it's too late to delete his page now. But I might as well just have a little bit of fun...Wolfdog 06:25, 5 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Hey, I know it's too late to delete his page now. But I might as well just have a little bit of fun... Erm, no not really. Mickey Suttle/SuperStupid is a key figure in Star Wars. Granted it's because he's an a***hole who pollutes it but still. We cant just launch him into the Sun and erase him from history unfortunatly. Jasca Ducato 08:03, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
 * But if we could, we'd be very happy. Very very happy.-User:Remoh


 * I don't know about sad, but it is highly amusing that it's one of the longer pages on the site; it does need to be here though. Forewarned is forearmed, as they say. --hikari 17:02, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Anonymous person-concerning Keira Knightley and Shadow. I just noticed this page, and I added that SS claims to have dated Keira Knightley. I remember he made this statement some time in 2004, but I don't have the patience to sort through his archive pages. However, I promise you, this is a quote from him.

New Girlfriend Pics
Oh my gosh... has anyone been to his girlfriend site lately? Talk about an obvious (and poor) Photoshop job! Look at the skin tones between the face and the body... http://www.supershadow.com/starwars/girlfriend.html Cutch 04:42, 6 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Le sigh. -User:Remoh
 * I think those pics are from www.bullz-eye.com or something. -- Doo Doo 11:03, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Mickey's REAL Girlfriend= His computer

Dargos 03:58, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Weak counter-arguments
It's no secret that SS's statements and assertions are totally lame, but I think that some of the counter-arguments presented by wookieepedians in this article are quite weak and/or unnecessary and/or bordering on conjecture. Here are some examples (weak counter-arguments in italics, my comments in breackets):


 * That Darth Bane is "alive and kicking" during his proposed third trilogy. Darth Bane died either of old age or someone killed him before Yoda was born. (this is bordering on conjecture and, even though it presents the only logically possible fates of Bane, it's still too weak to be an argument; given that other Sith and Jedi characters have managed to stay alive for centuries and millennia, it would also be possible for Bane to be 'alive and kicking' - I'd say it's better to leave counter-arguments such as this one out of the article completely)
 * Nobody buys the expanded universe books. Many Star Wars fans do read any kind of books. Even play the video games and read comic books. (Yeah, well, SS's statement is in itself so bizarre that the counterargument shouldn't be necessary).
 * Darth Revan has a lower midichlorian count than Darth Malak, even though Revan was the sith master, and he later defeated Malak as a jedi. (technically speaking defeat and midichlorian count have nothing to do with each other; Jango Fett killed/defeated Pablo-Jill (wasn't it Pablo-Jill), and Fett surely must have a lower midichlorian count than Pablo-Jill; also Anakin Skywalker had a higher midichlorian count than Obi-Wan, but Obi-Wan was still the master. This counter argument is self defeating, innit?)

There are several more cases of such counter arguments. I think the article would be better of without them as they are self-defeating and make SS's arguments and statements seem based on a stronger ground than they are. So, please, if one wants to provide counter arguments against SS, provide some proper counter arguments that are not self-defeating and that can be backed up with reference to the SW canon and are not based on conjecture... either that or don't provide any counter arguments at all. KEJ 13:31, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Note, KEJ, but I believe the two latter examples were recently added by Demolition18 and an anon respectively. Please check the history and question those users directly. -- Riffsyphon1024 19:39, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * You got a point, but I figured I'd address all wookipeedians interested in editing this article and I just used those three cases as examples of the overall tone of this article. KEJ 22:35, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Why hasn't Lucas ordered SuperShadow to take his site down?
It would save a lot of people headaches if he did. SS is an idiot, who doesn't deserve to be called a fan.
 * I've always seen Supershadow as a parody of the mad internet fan. It's funny(ish). It confuses me why so many people are like "Supershadow, you're such an idiot, you don't know what you're saying". Of course he knows what he's saying, it's one big piss-take. People getting angry at him for "not really knowing George Lucas" are like people getting angry at Maddox for not really being a pirate. Granted, Maddox is actually *hilarious* but still... *shrug* the guy just doesn't bother me.(Ulicus 21:34, 19 May 2006 (UTC))
 * That's what I always thought, too. Cyril 23:46, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't know why everyone gets so worked up over him. It's his website and he can say whatever he wants. It's not his fault people read it and pay attention. It makes our job harder, that's true but really, he's entitled to spout whatever nonsense he wants and Lucas can't do a thing about it.--DannyBoy7783 01:38, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well for one, he's impersonating GL, so legally, GL can sue him over that. And he's also pretending to be affiliated with lucasfilm, and other things. All of which are illegal. Darth Abeonis Sith Council (Sith Campaign) 09:57, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Source Change
I recently changed "Star Wars, RotS, Star Wars RP and SuperShadow forum" to "TheStarWarsRP.Com", as we switched to another host and purchased a domain name. This was back in November, so I guess we didn't realize that this hadn't been changed. Brandon Rhea 02:16, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

SS Forum
A FORUM DEDICATED to the GENIUS of SS!!


 * NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! Jasca Ducato 15:57, 22 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I just posted a little link in every single one of their topics linking them too the Mickey Suttle article. That should give them something to think about. Jasca Ducato 17:36, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
 * A Forum dedicated to Suttle? I think I'm going to die of grief. Huh, I guess it is possible. I owe Padmé Amidala an apology. -- SFH 17:39, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Dw about it, i just emailed all foru of them (one being myself because i needed to register to leave messages. Jasca Ducato 17:41, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Other pages he owns
Www.StarWarss.com is a page owned by Supershadow, whit a link to Www.SuperShadow.Com, it's awfull, man, the guy is a lier.


 * wuts awfull is yer spelin. Ugluk 23:24, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

HE ADMITS
"To all my friends and fans, It is time for me to come clean, fess up, and tell the truth about SS and my site Supershadow.com. All of my inside information on Star Wars at my site is fake. I have never met George Lucas. I have never been to Skywalker Ranch. I have had no creative input on Star Wars in any way. The sequel scripts on my site for Star Wars Episode 7, 8, and 9 are fake. I will not be producing the sequels either. All my Documentaries that I have said I made are fake. There are no characters like Nebar Foxis or Darth Rage. I was never in any Star Wars movies. All the George Lucas interviews are fake. I do not score with supermodels. I do not work for Lucasfilm. Basically everything at Supershadow.com is all fake. Supershadow.com was created to be a joke and anger Star Wars fans. I did not expect it to become so popular or receive such infamy. I kept up my charade for too long, I never expected it to go to the lengths that it did. I have received death threats, obsessed with by several crazed fans, and have been targeted by a radical hate group. I apologize to everyone for creating such a lie, I never wanted it to go this far. I also vehemently apologize to George Lucas, his family, and everyone at Lucasfilm, for lying the way I have. I hope you all can find it in your hearts to forgive me for my deception. You cannot imagine how it feels to have lied to millions of people, and know that your whole life is pretty much a lie. Again, I'm so sorry. Sincerely,"

- Mickey Suttle

Its only on his "myspace" but he's still admitted to it. Jasca Ducato 09:11, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * But is that account really his? - Sikon [ Talk ] 09:25, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Like i said on the main article page, i'm working on getting confirmation. Jasca Ducato 09:40, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi. I was on myspace for a while (I can't log in for some strange reason). I found out that by searching "mickeysuttle@yahoo.com", it came up with "007". I spoke with him myself and... yep, it had to be him.It seems quite obvious that both 007 and the SuperShadow account are associated considering that they're best friends. I once got a strange message by a guy who claims to be a former assistant (apparently there were four people who did different things on SS, three now). He only went by the name of "James" and hinted that another was named "Shawn." To put it short, he claims that it was originally meant to piss off Star Wars fans. He left as soon as they started putting up the GL interviews, in fear of being sued. He also claims that Mickey Suttle is the registrant because he was the only one with a credit card. So I'm saying that it's possible that he could be switching back-and-forth with these accounts, everyone using certain e-mail addresses. I can give you the whole thing sometime if you want.ShinGarudaS 20:32, 13 June 2006 (UTC)


 * how do we know you really talked to him. And if he admits all this nonsense, why does he still pretend to impose as GL.

Lawyer
I read somewhere that his dad is a lawyer. Maybe Mickey Sr. is the lawyer and SS is named after him?  StarNeptune Talk to me! 02:10, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Um...
What neutrality is disputed? Point it out. 210.50.141.51 12:07, 23 June 2006 (UTC)


 * People hate Supershadow, what did you expect? 58.178.46.202 09:31, 9 July 2006 (UTC)


 * But where in the article is it disputed? Although I have got an overall dubius impression The Haunted Angel 12:03, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

The guy thinks he's god
"God Posted: Aug 4 2006, 06:21 AM

Shadowling

Group: Members Posts: 1 Member No.: 33 Joined: 4-August 06

Dear true believers,

This is the almighty and godlike SS. The person who makes your Star Wars dreams come true. I haven't been able to answer any of Sweers e-mails that he has sent me over the past weeks because I have been pre-occupied with scoring with hot women at the beach.

I simply don't have enough time right now to update SS.com with new material. Rest assured, when my batteries are re-charged I will return to new updates. Eventually I will post new stuff sent in by the fans and Lucas will continue to answer questions at SS.com until the end of time or until Jesus returns, whichever happens first I guess.

Your support is appreciated. Being God is tough though. Unlimited powers, infinite good looks and trillions of voices in your head from sentient creatures from all over the Universe is tough to deal with on a daily basis.

I will keep Sweers updated on what I will be doing in the future.

The nightmare never ends,

Mickey Suttle"

Ugh.-User:Remoh
 * Oh god.That is the STUPIDEST thing I've heard of.

Funniest quote ever
(SuperShadow: Batman Begins is a total box-office failure. That movie cost over $ 150 million dollars to produce, not including another $ 50 million dollars for promotion and yet it has not even made $ 200 million dollars at the box office in North America. Add to this fact that Batman Begins won’t make much more than $ 150 million dollars over seas. We don’t want that Nolan idiot anywhere near Star Wars. We don’t need failures at life involved with Star Wars.)  the italicized part really made me laugh. Ugluk 23:53, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Samuel L. Jackson quote
"I never dreamed I get to play a Jedi especially the second most powerful one after Yoda."

I believe he did actually say something like that in an interview once. Not with Suttle of course.--Darth OblivionComlink 04:01, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

TheStarWarsRP?
Im a member of that site....and I know a member of that site contributed to it a lot..."Bac" but the link should be here...its unrelated so Im taking it out.

One of the lines
I removed the whole thing after the section on Valorum about "supershadow needs to learn that..." because it seemed out of place, POV, and restated one clear point, that he doesn't follow EU. Gotoisevil

In fact, I decided to alter a few things throughout that entire section to try to make it more neutral, like the five hundred things saying "that George Lucas doesn't like the EU. Gotoisevil

Revert it if you think I went too far or something, here's the date Gotoisevil 22:19, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Fake picture
I just wanted to point out that the fake picture on mickeysuttle.net looks nothing like him. Its of some lifeguard-looking stern-faced man who could so beat supershadow. Do you think that this picture should be added to show what a complete moron he is (not that that needs explaining), or at least show how he needs his eyes checked? I'm sorry if I come across as rude, but he does seem obnoxious.--24.22.212.250 03:28, 31 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I think that the photo he uses on ss is of singer/musician Chris Issaak. I will try and verify and post the information.

FEATURED ARTICLE??
This idiot gets his own featured article? Even if it isn't by him, it is still recognizing him.
 * Not really. It's recognizing the efforts of the people who made the article, an article which clearly shows him to be a fraud. -- Ozzel 20:19, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

worst case scenario.
what would it be? that he is what he says. or that he is some high power in wiki's.--cody6 21:19, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

he is what he says is 9,999 times worse. His movies would ruin star wars forever. 24.63.167.114 22:39, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


 * why hasnt he been arested yet...--cody6 00:43, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


 * because he hasn't done anything illegal. What he is doing, no matter how stupid, is protected by the first amendment of the US constitution. He lives in America, so this applies to him, obviously.--DeadGuy 03:34, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't think he can be arrested for what he's done, but Lucasfilm has every right to sue him.-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 03:42, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * DeadGuy, impersonating GL is illegal, and he's done that! Jasca Ducato 09:07, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I didn't know he impersonated GL, I think he is just saying that they're close friends but he never said he WAS george lucas....--DeadGuy 02:54, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I think Jasca is referring to the interviews with "GL" on SuperShadow.com. I guess that counts as impersonation.-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 03:43, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
 * That right Oblivion, by pretending to answer fans questions under the persona of Gl, he is breaking the law. [[Image:DarthAbeonisSig2.gif|Jasca Ducato]] Sith Council Sith Campaign 11:19, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Greatest Mega Genius of All Time
I think SuperShadow has proven time and time again that He is the foremost Star Wars expert in the galaxy. SS has revealed hundreds of details coming straight from Lucas about the Star Wars galaxy. Only SS has the capacity to keep His web site the most visited Star Wars web site of all time. We should all be impressed that over 200,000 individules frequent His godlike web site each and every day. We must admit out complete inferiority when compared to the SS god. We are cretins. SS is our master. For the fans of Star Wars, the nightmare never ends. 65.57.106.27 10:35, 21 December 2006 (UTC) It's hard to argue with the godlike intelligence of SS. He has hundreds of web sites dedicated to his greatness. While there are none dedicated to you. Maybe if you didn't drive a 1975 AMC Gremlin and if you didn't live in an apartment smaller than a jail cell, then you might have actually accomplished something with your life. How much money do you make? SS makes in one day what it takes you several months to earn. You have every right to be completely jealous of someone so superior to you and the rest of Star Wars fandom including Greedy Lucas God Is SS 13:11, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Please; tell me. Were you dropped on your head as a child? [[Image:DarthAbeonisSig2.gif|Jasca Ducato]] Sith Council Sith Campaign 12:54, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Please stop trolling. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 13:12, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * And, maybe read the article. [[Image:DarthAbeonisSig2.gif|Jasca Ducato]] Sith Council Sith Campaign 13:18, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * *rolls eyes and just laughs at the absurdity if this idividual* JMAS 13:28, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * this one is either shadow himself, or some stupid fan of his lies. if goerge lucas actuly decided to get emails SS would be sued ffaster then ever, why you belive him is, insane--cody6 21:56, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

To take priority...
Talk pages on Wookieepedia are for discussing article changes, not the subject in question. As such, and to get to the point, any more posts about how great or fake (although the latter is undeniably true) Micky Suttle is will be removed on sight. This has gone far enough. Good day, and Merry Christmas. The Haunted Angel 21:52, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry, thats against the rules. [[Image:DarthAbeonisSig2.gif|Jasca Ducato]] Sith Council Sith Campaign 11:05, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * No, it's against the rules to make off-topic posts. What does it say up there at the top, next to Mr. Windu's picture? The Haunted Angel 23:05, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * While it is against the rules to make off topic posts, it is also against the rules to remove them (except in cases of obvious vandalism). Those who make off topic posts are warned, and if they persist, they will get a short block.  StarNeptune Talk to me! 05:03, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * That seems fair enough, except for the fact that I bet most of the people who make them arn't warned, but if it's something I have to do myself, I will. It also seems a bit ridiculous that they arn't allowed to be removed when their point is moot. The Haunted Angel 00:50, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Have any..
Have any notable theories been made that SuperShadow might just be playing a huge anti-humor prank?
 * Anti-humor? --Imp 06:10, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I guess it means not funny. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 06:36, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

George Lucas Q&A Section Addition?
I just wasted 10 minutes of my life surfing the "George Lucas Interviews" on his site. (When I say wasted, I mean I fell to the dark side with all the hate and angst I feel towards this fake) I was wondering about adding a section talking about this? I want a consensus before actually adding anything, like about how most of the posts are negative or commanding, and how they contradict many real Lucas statements and interviews. Commander Jorrel Fraajic Communications Relay 03:09, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Question
Has anyone asked suttle why people at lucasfilm (george lucas' own company) are taking action against him when he's george lucas' 'friend'? Darth odious 19:41, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
 * More than likely, but chance are he wouldn't let on. He may be stupid, but he's not that stupid&hellip;well maybe. [[Image:DarthAbeonisSig2.gif|Jasca Ducato]] Sith Council Sith Campaign 19:52, 16 January 2007 (UTC)


 * He's stupid to think that people still believe him after the anouncments by lucasfilm that he is a fruad, so it's still reasonable that he is that foolish. He made fanon look bad with his image on that template, Ugh! Darth odious 00:22, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * One thing you'll learn is that people are that stupid as to believe him. And those few idiots are what fuel him. And by recognizing him at all, we fuel him. -- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|20px]] Talk 00:51, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Super Shadow
Where does he gets this stuff. Because I can't find this anywhere, I also did not see him the Star wars mvie at all. Or any refrence to him. I think he just does it for attentio, because he has no life
 * Which is basically what the article says.-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|20px]] 04:23, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * And the anon sees the light! 15:10, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Mickey Suttle Pic
We should probably remove the Mickey Suttle pic since it is actually the picture of a Michael Suttle, not the legendary Mickey Suttle. Can anybody cite me a reliable source for the pic's authenticity? We don't know what Mickey Suttle looks like and the facts seem to indicate the pic we have is not legit.
 * What is your source for it not being Suttle? After all, Mickey is a shortened version of Michael. And we do have a source for it being Mickey Suttle. It came from the website of the company he previously worked for, identifying him. [[Image:DarthAbeonisSig2.gif|Jasca Ducato]] Sith Council Sith Campaign 10:38, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

What evidence do we have that the legendary Mickey Suttle actually worked at the place where you found the pic. We know nothing about Suttle. We don't know what schools he's attended. We don't know the names of any of his friends or hot ladies he dates. We don't know what he does like his hobbies. Nobody can confirm what he does for a living. Some speculate Suttle is a lawyer, but nobody can confirm this. This is all rather pathetic. After ten years of investigating this godlike person, we still don't know anything about him. I'm tired of us all constantly being outsmarted by Suttle. We're fools in his eyes. He laughs at us day and night. Rightfully, so because produce 3rd Grade papers about him that reveal nothing about Suttle. This article would get a D - in 3rd Grade. We have done a poor job of finding out info like his birthday. For us tards, the nightmare never ends.
 * Your actually wrong, on all those points. We know 100% certain that the man in that picture is Mickey Suttle. [[Image:DarthAbeonisSig2.gif|Jasca Ducato]] Sith Council Sith Campaign 12:34, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Wait a minute, the anon has a point. What source do we have that says this man is Mickey "SuperShadow" suttle? - Sikon 10:04, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

No real content here
You guys have done a poor job profiling SuperShadow. All you do is post information from his web site. How come you guys don't have any personal information about SS? Are you all tards? You begss don't know SS God's age, where he was born, how many times he's been married and divorced, you don't have an estimate of his net worth (SS God is a multimillionaire). Please put this kind of info in the article. All other articles about people have age, birthdates, place born and stuff like that. I'll understand that you guffs don't have this info about SS God because he has been owning you and outsmarting you for over 10 years now. Laffing at you day and night for all time. <<<<<>>>>> 65.57.106.15 07:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Why are you back? And, we're an encyclopedia, not a news agency - we don't call him up and ask him. We work with what we're given, which, as of now, is his website. And why do you constantly have to be a tard, too? 14:35, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Since you're such a big fan of SS, why don't you do us the honours? --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 14:40, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Friends, Wookies, countrymen, don't feed the Trolls. They love attention and anger. They hate being ignored or dealt with calmly. Do the Jedi thang and be cool, daddios.

I´m Very Confussed...
San Salvador, El Salvador 12 Febraury 2007

Hi Super Shadow

I´m Starkiller1996, i´m a Wookieepedian since 2006, and i are very confussed, my questions since the last year:


 * 1) Who is the "REAL FATHER" of Anakin Skywalker?


 * 1) Luke´s midichlorian count is similary of uor Father?

Please contact me for any more questions;

P.S: I make a new friends, sign me my SignSpace in my UserPage, Please

Sincerelly, your "Friend":

MTFBWUA. Starkiller1996 Adidas F50+ 12 Febraury, 2007 (UTC)
 * Please...please...please tell me this is a sick joke...if not, then I don't think the human race can take another idiot before finally collapsing.-- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|20px]] Talk 05:17, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Starkiller, do you understand what the article says. It recognizes SuperShadow as a liar.-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|20px]] 06:50, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

For once I agree with redemption. This guy is such an idiot. Hopefully it was sick joke. Because what moron would ask supershadow up for help. He said he was Cin