Forum:Disputed Trash compactor closing/IRC log

 Culator?  Wouldn't you rather say that consensus was in favor of not keeping the list?  No.  "After 10 days, 7+12+8=0 consensus"  12 to delete, 15 to not delete.  I'd rather say 7+20= consensus  Too bad that's wrong.  7 to keep, 20 to remove from the main namespace.  12 to delete, 15 to not delete, but the 15 are split on HOW not to delete. It stays.  It certainly hasn'  t been up for very long.  Try again in another year.  I challenge your interpretation, and would like to see an unbiased admin close the TC discussion.  Repeat VFDs are bad form anyway.  Thing is, you won't find an unbiased admin.  I'm not opposed to it personally. Who began this? Whoever did was probably just going around looking for things to shit on. [&hellip;] <Graestan> Greyman's likely not biased on the matter. <Imperialles> I'm fine with Greyman taking a look. <Darth_Culator> Sorry, no. Violates autonomy. <Imperialles> At any rate, I feel the TC has been closed prematurely. [&hellip;] <Imperialles> I am more than happy to take this to an adminvote. <Imperialles> admin vote* [&hellip;] <Imperialles> Very well, Culator. If you refuse to reopen the discussion, I'll bring the matter up for vote on the Admin noticeboard. [&hellip;] <Xwing328> Imp - I say 15 for some form of keeping [&hellip;] <Graestan> Imp> I think the admin noticeboard would have been a better place to begin with for it. Regular users pollute. <Xwing328> 11 against, which isn't a clear consensus <Darth_Culator> See? You're as biased as I am, and you're just pissed I got there first. <Imperialles> I at least try to assume good faith... <Imperialles> Graestan: Well, Wookieepedia is not a representative democracy. <Graestan> ? <Imperialles> Admins are not appointed to make decisions for the community. <Darth_Culator> I can't assume good faith from you. You're trying to run Wookieepedia like it's your own personal site. <Graestan> I'm merely suggesting that admins have been elevated for a reason. They're more likely to have the interests of the wook, and not personal preference, in mind than regular users are. <Graestan> Culator> THat can be said about a great many admins. <Darth_Culator> You want a page deleted, so now you're getting all pissy that you didn't get the votes for it and you have to try another angle. <Darth_Culator> It's pathetic. [&hellip;] <Imperialles> I strongly object to that accusation, Culator. <Imperialles> Additionally, all TCs should remain open for at least 14 days per the consensus established here: <Imperialles> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia_talk:Trash_compactor#How_long_should_the_vote_remain_open.3F <Darth_Culator> That's not a consensus. And even if it was it isn't a rule. <Darth_Culator> I do notice how *you* agreed with 2 weeks, though. <Imperialles> I did, as did the majority of the people engaging in that discussion. <Imperialles> And no, consensus should not be overruled. <Darth_Culator> A discussion from two years ago that involves 6 people, two of whom are now MIA, is not a consensus. <Darth_Culator> Nice try, though. <Imperialles> Uh, yes it is. <Imperialles> Regardless, I'll bring it up for vote. <Darth_Culator> Do that. It won't be retroactive. <Darth_Culator> Your desperation amuses me. <Imperialles> I'm referring to the premature closing of the TC, not the established consensus to keep TCs open for 2 weeks. <Darth_Culator> It wasn't premature and you know it. <Darth_Culator> You're really grasping at straws. <Imperialles> We'll see what decision the admins arrive at. <Darth_Culator> Meh.