Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Sneevel


 * ''The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a good article nomination that was successful. Please do not modify it.

Sneevel

 * Nominated by: --Skippy Farlstendoiro 07:27, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: I hereby humbly request to be accepted as a participant of WookieeProject: Aliens.

(3 ACs/2 Users/5 Total)
Support
 * 1) --Eyrezer 18:54, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 01:44, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 3)  IFYLOFD  ( And now, young Skywalker, you will die. ) 16:13, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Now do Sneeve. :) Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:20, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) -  Cavalier One [[Image:FarStar Logo.jpg|20px]]( Squadron channel ) 15:24, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Object  IFYLOFD  ( And now, young Skywalker, you will die. ) 01:25, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Put BtS into prose. Also, whats is a mali?  SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 10:51, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *Thank you for your help. Changed "mali" to "maluses" (Dex +6, Int -2, Wis -2)--Skippy Farlstendoiro 11:25, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) It looks good. Just a couple of things. Could you expand a bit more on Boles Roor in the Sneevels in the galaxy section? Also, with the Bts, it would be good to begin it with a sentence stating where the Sneevels first appeared, where they were first named, and where their backstory was first expanded. Finally, looking at Boles' entry, do Sneevels get mentioned in Secrets of Tatooine? --Eyrezer 00:39, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) *Tried to correct it. Have a look now.--Skippy Farlstendoiro 16:35, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Toprawa:
 * 6) * The first appearance is probably the Episode I novel, perhaps even with new information. Please check. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:05, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) **"(...) One by one, Jabba recognized the Podracer pilots. Gasgano. Boles Roor. Ben Quadinaros. (...)". Add to the appearances, check; mention in BtS, check; thank Toprawa, check. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 18:27, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) * It looks like you've done a very nice job on these two articles. I look forward to reviewing them, but I would first like to make sure you have all appearances and sources included. Please click the "What links here" link on the sidebar to see what other sources you may be missing. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:59, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) **Done and checked last week, but I forgot to tell you here.--Skippy Farlstendoiro 07:41, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) * Please also make sure to order the Source list by correct OOU publication date. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:47, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) **Ditto.--Skippy Farlstendoiro 07:41, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) * Good job. If Roor is only mentioned in the novel, that wouldn't be his first appearance. It would need to be whatever item a member of the species actually does visually appear or is active in the story. I'm guessing it's the comic without looking into it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 06:54, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 13) **Have a look now. If you don't mind, I'd rather see all the Databank entries in alphabetical order.--Skippy Farlstendoiro 21:02, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) ***Added 1stm. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 01:44, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 15) ****Yes, I have listed the Databank entries in alphabetical order according to the Databank page names - by last names for characters, and first word for everything else. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 16) * Does anything actually refer to Roor as being "famous"? "One famous Sneevel was the glimmik singer and podracer Boles Roor" Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:24, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * "(...) He has recruited the support of retired Podracing legend Boles Roor who appeared in a series of holographic endorsements for the Senator. Roor even came out of retirement for a series of charity races (...)". Podracing Tales features Roor's popular concert before the Boonta Eve Classic. Coruscant and the Core Worlds says that not everybody sings in the distinguished Kallarak Amphitheater, and that those who do commonly get a full house and seem to be popular not to an elite audience, but to the general public. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 21:51, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) ***Good enough for me. Sorry for going through this thing piecemeal. I hope to finish my review by this evening. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:54, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) * Excellent work. I have three concerns. First, in light of the Behind the scenes explanation of their dexterity, I think you could add something to the Biology section mentioning that they have strong dexterity, etc.
 * 3) **I'm explaining the benefits they have because of that bonus, because the RPG term does not mean exactly "Manual or manipulative skill, adroitness, neat-handedness." As Roor seems to have a very low Dexterity for a Sneevel, I say "the average Sneevel." Have a look.
 * 4) * Second, I think we can go ahead and make an editorial decision on the location of Sneeve. The Inside the Worlds map also places Endor in the Mid Rim, which is incorrect, so I think we can assert that the placement of Sneeve is incorrect in light of the more recent HoloNet information. If you want, I can help you leave an appropriate reference note explaining why we're asserting it's the Mid Rim and not the Expansion Region.
 * 5) **I tried not to take sides on that. You seem to have good ideas for that note; I'm all ears. Or, if you want, I'll try writing one.
 * 6) ***I just left a little BTS note. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:20, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) * Finally, no information from the Ultimate Alien Anthology? Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:23, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) **Sneevels are featured in the original Alien Anthology but (like Hoojibs, Lahsbees and Savrips) were not listed in the index of Ultimate Alien Anthology, and I found no reference to them anywhere else in the book. Maybe I missed some mention to the Sneevels in the entry of another species? --Skippy Farlstendoiro 13:06, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) ***You're good. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:20, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) IFYLOFD:
 * 11) * How does the opening quote relate to the article itself?
 * 12) **I chose the quote because of several reasons; although maybe not all of them can be transmitted that easily:
 * 13) ***Uttered by a Sneevel; not too many of those in the canon. No available sentence uttered by in-universe xenobiologists.
 * 14) ***Reflects their daredevil tendencies: A podracer pilot saying "Get ready to crash" suggests he is to attempt a stunt. "Maybe I'll crash; maybe you'll crash; but I'll try a driving stunt".
 * 15) ***At the same time, reflects the Sneevel tendency to work in entertainment and creative fields: It's the kind of sentence a singer says before his first song (and that's the exact context). In fact, it's the kind of sentence that a stunt driver/singer would say, and that's what Roor is, and that's what Sneevels are known for: Daredevil jobs, and artistic jobs.
 * 16) ***Reflects their lesser-than-average charisma: Roor says to other person "Get ready to crash", meaning "You will crash and be hurt, and I care little about that". A sentence like "I'm re-dedicating my first number to Ben Quadinaros" (Roor's previous sentence in the source) would simply not reflect that Sneevels do not empathize with other species.
 * 17) ***If you don't think it is representative for a Sneevel, just tell me and it will simply disappear. I think it's something like using Ebareebaveebeedee's quote here to open the Squib article (if no better quote was available), because it represent the common speech and way of looking at things of the species.--Skippy Farlstendoiro 16:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 18) * There are a lot of short, choppy sentences, especially in Biology and appearance. Try and combine or reword some.
 * 19) **I've done my best. Have a look now.
 * 20) * "Sneevels had little interest in galactic politics, but many commonly learned Galactic Basic Standard as a second language." How does learning Basic relate to galactic politics? Clarify please.
 * 21) **Reworded. By the way, if I answer all three objections at the same time, I'm supposed to sign my edit only once, true?--Skippy Farlstendoiro 16:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 22) ***Yup.  IFYLOFD  ( And now, young Skywalker, you will die. ) 16:13, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

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