Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Lady Tarkin


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Lady Tarkin

 * Nominated by: Ozzel 01:18, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: That's what I'm Tarkin about. -- Ozzel 01:15, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

(3 AC/5 users/8 total)
Support
 * 1) Darth Star... DC 15:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Colinmcev 05:12, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Good show. 15:11, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) An interesting read.  Aqua  Unasi  03:04, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Soresumakashi 07:06, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) Enjoyed it... where's she now? Easy88 19:11, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) Now you just gotta FA her hubby, and you're good to go :P  Greyman ( Talk ) 13:50, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) POV-ish header: "Megonite megalomaniac." --Imperialles 01:20, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) She the proceeded her banquet hall to host the Imperial Diplomatic Conclave, for guests such as Shea Hublin, Chancellor Qua of the Zenox Star Cluster, the Most High Proctor of Thebeon 8, and Darth Vader himself. By this do you mean She then proceeded to her banquet hall to host the Imperial Diplomatic Conclave for guests such as Shea Hublin, Chancellor Qua of the Zenox Star Cluster, the Most High Proctor of Thebeon 8 and Darth Vader himself? Soresumakashi 09:23, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) *Indeed. Fixed. -- Ozzel 11:02, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Darth Star? Is this like a mistake or joke or something of that sort? =D DC 12:10, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) *I think that was the original name. :-p Nah, I typed that once and then was clumsy enough to copy it, and then I didn't catch either one. -- Ozzel 21:39, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * 7) * The intro is a bit confusing with which Tarkin is being referenced.
 * 8) **Addressed. -- Ozzel 08:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) *"Her fate is unknown". This must die on sight.
 * 10) **I'll think about this one some more. -- Ozzel 08:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 20:52, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) Nice job with this, and cool subject. A few suggestions... -- Colinmcev 02:56, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 13) * Could you try rewording "Lady Tarkin was the cousin of Commander Conan Motti—and it was for the connection to her powerful relatives such as he that Wilhuff Tarkin married the woman." You already mentioned the Motti family in the previous sentence, so perhaps something like "Wilhuff Tarkin married her due to her powerful family connections, such as her cousin, Commander Conan Motti" or something like that? -- Colinmcev 02:56, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) **Done. -- Ozzel 08:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 15) * I don't feel strongly about this objection, but I'm not sure this needs to be in the behind the scenes: "Also, no source has yet indicated whether or not she was aware of her husband's affair with Natasi Daala." -- Colinmcev 02:56, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 16) **I wouldn't be crushed if it was removed, but I thought it was worth noting because it's a pretty major part of her character that we don't know. If she didn't know about Daala, then she was just blindly devoted to Wilhuff, but if she did, then that puts a different spin on things. And since the Biography was written with the knowledge of Daala, someone might just assume that she knew, so I thought it was best to make it clear that we don't know either way. -- Ozzel 08:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 17) ***Fair enough. -- Colinmcev 05:12, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 18) Toprawa:
 * 19) * I'm failing to see any compelling connection between Lady Tarkin and the last bit of the second paragraph of the first subsection. Unless you can directly connect this back to Lady Tarkin somehow, I would remove this: "In 5 BBY, when Lady Tarkin's brother-in-law Gideon Tarkin was killed during the Erhynradd Mutiny, his daughter Rivoche was invited to come live at the Tarkin estate; however, the teenage Rivoche frequently acted out in resentment, so Wilhuff had her sent to an exclusive preparatory academy on Clær."
 * 20) **Understandable. It's vague because there is no specific mention Lady Tarkin in that source. But since she was married to Willy, she would have been there when they took in Rivoche and been part of that whole ordeal. I just can't saying anything in particular about Lady Tarkin there, because it's not in the source. -- Ozzel 22:14, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 21) ***Ultimately speculation, but very well. I'll look the other way on this one.
 * 22) **I guess I'm going to avoid making this an objection for the time being, but remind me again why this article is under "Lady Tarkin" and not something more befitting of our naming conventions, such as Tarkin (Lady)? Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:37, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 23) ***Because we have a template for such cases specifically so that we don't have to resort to the parenthetical stuff. -- Ozzel 22:14, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 24) ****Well, I'm going to upgrade this to an objection then. I think it would be best to adhere to our naming convention precedent and go with "Tarkin (Lady)". See: the FA Valarian as a similar example. We don't have it under "Lady Valarian" for reason. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:40, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 25) *****If I'm not mistaken, Valarian is her only name though—she isn't Mrs. Valarian, so I don't think the example is a fitting one. Lady Tarkin would have a first name—we just don't know what it is. A more appropriate comparison would be Madam Rhoden; it's the exact same situation, and it passed GA just a few months back. -- Ozzel 04:16, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 26) ******It's disappointing to think anyone would try to create an article with any kind of personal title in the name given our long-standing, though unofficial, article-naming convention precedent. Trying to use a GA to create any kind of precedent, much less one effectively subverting a FA precedent, is just silly. But since our naming convention page is only "proposed policy," this is the kind of situation we unfortunately have to deal with and not one that can legitimately be objected to at this time. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:37, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

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