Talk:Meetra Surik

See also Talk:Jedi Exile/Archive.

If female Exile is canoned...
Will this article start refering to her as the canon female, like the Revan article does with the canon male preferance? And what art work will be used in the photo?


 * Sure, why not. Jasca Ducato 18:16, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes it will (I'll take care of that :)). However, Obsidian's promotional picture will probably be left, as it's the only known image of the Exile. - Sikon 17:01, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm sure someone can donate a photo (or in our case, a screenshot) (maybe myself, if no one else wants to) of a possible female Exile, and then we can edit any other article that mentions the Jedi Exile accordingly. - DAWUSS 7:19 PM 30 Jan 2005
 * If the female gender is canonized, then I'd suggest using the female face that they show in the little booklet you get with the game. Whenever they show the user in example screenshots, the face is that of a blond woman.Cull Tremayne 02:28, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

I like lightside male better.
 * Erm, ok. Jasca Ducato 19:51, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

"Can't we just pick light side male by default until it's decided by an official source?" -MPK


 * well, apparently its confiermed as canon, hes a female :P we need to sort the article and pic out. Jedi Dude 20:41, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Jedi Dude: where at? Randy Starkiller 20:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Look at the bottem of this page, apparently its in the New Droids guide. Jedi Dude 20:52, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd like confirmation from someone besides an anon before we change anything. - Lord Hydronium 20:57, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * well, it looks like hes defoo a she. Jedi Dude 11:22, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Easter egg?

 * An easter egg exists when using the random name generator where the name Lann Darth is available.

Could anyone explain why this is an easter egg? "Darth" as a last name may be peculiar, but I'd hardly go so far as to call that an easter egg. Is the name supposed to resemble a better known one? 82.92.119.11 14:54, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

DS picture
Can we get the promotional picture of the DS male Exile? It looks just like the one in the article, but the opposite. I think that would fairly portray the two possibilites offered by the game. Varas Halcyon 12:49, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

nickname tag
Does anyone think this artical quaifies for a " " tag? His name was not "Jedi Exile" however he is called that IU LTIC so it doesn't quaifis for a " " tag.
 * For all we know his name might have been "Jedi Jospeh Exile" or some strange name like that. We could, but i don't really mind either way. Jasca Ducato 18:35, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Jedi Exile was NOT called "Jedi Exile" IU. - Sikon [ Talk ] 18:50, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Erm, seeing as thats what Darth Sion calls him, he is called it IU. Jasca Ducato 19:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * So add the tag?
 * In-game characters speaking English call him Exile, but I am not sure about Jedi followed by Exile. As in the first game, only aliens call him with the custom name. I vote for the tag anyway MoffRebus 01:04, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't get why this article is called 'Jedi Exile'. That name may be more self-explanatory, but in the game the character is almost exclusively called just the "Exile". (see Wookieepedia:Naming conventions)--Sentry 01:36, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * To repeat: in-game, he is just called "the exile". Without capitalization. - Sikon [ Talk ] 02:44, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * And capitalization is relevant why? In any case, the title of the article has be capitalized because the word exile would, in this context, be used as a proper noun.--Sentry 03:08, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Why not rename the article "The General." Sure there were lots of Jedi Generals, but given in context, it would be easily recognized. You would also be able to remove the nickname tag. My suggestion to Mr. Che is that The General be made official canon. Revan was easier to do, as the name the player chose was chalked up to a reprogrammed identity. The Exile doesn't have amnesia, so you can't blame the player chosen name on that.--PhilCarr 15:23, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Nah. It's always been the Exile. Thats the way he is always referred to. General is only by Bao-Dur. Exile is by Atton, Kreia, Vrook, Zez, Grenn. That's the way he is mostly known as. The Exile. Plus, calling someone Exile just sounds cooler. "This is your gift to the galaxy, Exile..." --Redemption 23:38, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

--BHRamsay 18:32, 28 June 2006 (UTC)== Exile confirmed as female ==

I just picked up the New Essential Guide to Droids, and in it, a number of references are made to the Jedi Exile (such as in the entries for the T3 series and HK series). In all of them, the --BHRamsay 18:32, 28 June 2006 (UTC)Exile is referred to as female. This seems as good of a confirmation as any that the Exile is canonically female. Also, it consistently refers to her as a "heroine" - seemingly implying that the light side ending is canon, though that's not definite. - 15:30 CDT, 28 June 2006
 * About to make some edits to clear this problem up. - Breathesgelatin 00:33, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Three NEGD quotes (emphasis mine):

"Five standard years later, T3-M4 reappeared aboard the abandoned freighter Ebon Hawk, where he fell into the company of the heroine known only as the Jedi Exile.''"

"HK-47 teamed up with the heroine known as the Jedi Exile to battle a trio of Sith Lords."

"G0-T0 soon became mixed up with an exiled Jedi Knight and her mission to destroy the Sith Lords."

I'm not really interested in that era, and I've never played the games. But that looks pretty much like a deliberate editorial decision to me. -- Darth Culator 00:53, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Full clearance to change all "he"s to "she"s? And get Disciples bio filled out? --Redemption 01:02, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * This is great, now maybe some of the fans who were mad that Revan wasn't awoman will drop it now, I approve of the Exile being a female, even myself being a guy. User:RushinSundaws 9:14 27, June 2006
 * Actually, I have no intention of dropping it. Exile could have gone either way for me but I couldn't stand the Male Revan story. Revan/Bastila reminded me of the horrors of the AOTC romance. --Redemption 02:23, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Frankly, I'm not happy, because it looks like that's the only thing they thought of, not how it contributes to the story. The Handmaiden has gone from a woman who learned of her Jedi heritage, broke her oath, forsook her master and sisters for the Exile, and later was forced to fight them to...just some woman.  Atris isn't the woman who battled feelings for the Exile only to feel betrayed when he left, she's just got some sort of grudge.  I have nothing against female heroes, and agree we need more, I just don't think this was the best choice for one.  Ah well, what's done is done. - Lord Hydronium 02:27, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * YAY!!!!! For now, use Template:Exile. Also, it's good to see that they adopted "Jedi Exile", which was originally a fan nickname - hailing from IMDB, if I'm not mistaken. - Sikon [ Talk ] 05:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, there's a plus side to this. That's a damn funny template. - Lord Hydronium 06:15, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Except Atton was actually referring to Revan... but I think nobody cares. - Sikon [ Talk ] 06:17, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I would favour a female Exile just because it removes the slightly surreal concept that every single person in the galaxy either falls to the dark side or is redeemed to the light because they fall in love with The Exile. - BHRamsay 18:32, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Image
I think we need an image that a) embellishes that Exile's female and b) obscures her face. Like this one (example, sucks). - Sikon [ Talk ] 08:23, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Why not have a picture of her wearing a mask from the game?--Dil 10:31, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Because it would look horrible, I think. Someone can try it, though. -Sikon [ Talk ] 11:14, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Do we want similar thing as we have on Jaden Korr? QuentinGeorge 11:15, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * yes, but how could we make sure that the figure looks femanine? is it now confirmed that the exile is female yer? Jedi Dude 11:22, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Look up - Kwenn 11:28, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I like that picture, if only becasue it would appear to have the head of my all time favourite version the Exile from all the different times I've played through KotOR II, I think maybe the best way of doing it would be to try and get a pic of the Exile from behind, and then just crop the head off, I'd recommend doing it with Jedi Master robes, they look pretty good. Basically, do the same thing as Jaden Korr. 95 Headhunter 13:17, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I think we should keep regular Jedi robes, simply because that's what Exile wears for the trial flashback. Also, why show her from behind if the head gets cut anyway? - Sikon [ Talk ] 15:31, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * i dont think female exile is the way to go. all the jealousy of handmaiden and visas is gone and the interactions with people from your past make more sense as a male. the game trailer shows the exile as a male, plus the exile "jesus"head is really cool.
 * well thats nice to know anon, but shes a she, its canon. back to the picture, what are we gonna do? theres no point in cropping the head off, it won't look very good, we need to get a Jaden shot. Jedi Dude 16:56, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Just take a random appearance. There is no reason to hide the face; it just makes it look stupid. -MPK

I suggest these. I'm not joking, we now that she wore this on Peragus. Killik Brain 20:36, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Unfortunatly we don't know if the Exile was a white, black, asian, or hispanic woman. --Redemption 20:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Face it, the Exile's appearance will probably never be specified by an official source. Just get a screenshot that doesn't hide her face and go with it.-MPK
 * By doing that we'd be declaring that face canon, which would violate the policy. -Redemption 21:40, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * In that case, it would be far better to have no image than an image that sucks. -MPK
 * The solution is to desaturate the second underwear image to almost greyscale level just like it was done in the Jaden Korr page and there will be no issues of canonicity. It's not like there are options for obese, ematiated, or one-legged Exile... The model of the Exile is the one shown in the picture, we're 101% sure she wore that while on Peragus (well, didn't wear anything actually), and without color we won't be able to see if she's white, black, blue, or green. That IS the Exile's ass no matter what. --Master Starkeiller 21:41, 28 June 2006 (UTC)