Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Smoking PSA

Smoking PSA

 * Nominated by: Thunderforge (talk) 04:29, March 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Previously nominated as a Comprehensive Article, but failed because after revisions it exceeded 250 words. There was also a Trash Compactor discussion about whether or not commercials like this one belonged on Wookieepedia. The discussion was closed in January with a decision to keep this page at least and no further challenges have been made to it in the last two months.

Support

 * 1)  JangFett  (Talk) 17:58, March 24, 2014 (UTC)

501st

 * 1) You mention the space station in the body, and there is a redlink for it in the appearances section. Did we not deduce that them being on a space station was fan speculation?
 * 2) *That's a holdover from when the article did exist and the link didn't get removed when it was trash compacted. Fixed.
 * 3) **It still mentions a space station in the body.
 * 4) ***Fixed.
 * 5) Could we get another quote for the Synopsis section?
 * 6) *We don't really have much to work with. I suppose I could use "R2-D2, you've found a cigarette!" but it's not really that evocative of a quote.
 * 7) I believe you need to mention somewhere in the article, once in the intro and once in the body, that the PSA was non-canon.
 * 8) *I've added it to the intro, but I can't find a good way to work it in later. Besides, I figure "C-3P0 directly address the audience" clearly puts it as non-canon.
 * 9) **You could add it to the development section.
 * 10) ***Done.
 * 11) Context on R2-D2 should be given in the body.
 * 12) *What sort of context should I add?
 * 13) **Saying he is a droid should do the trick.
 * 14) ***Done.
 * 15) Good work. 501st  dogma ( talk ) 13:24, March 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * 16) *Thanks! -Thunderforge (talk) 20:58, March 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * 17) **I have modified your replies here and put them in their corresponding places in order to comply with our standards. Please look into this edit and see how it's done ;). Winterz (talk) 21:52, March 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * 18) "The PSA consists of a sketch..." You sure this is supposed to be a sketch? Wouldn't skit be better?
 * 19) "The 60-second version includes an opening where C-3PO is looking for R2-D2 and has him initially believing that R2-D2 is on fire before he realizes he is smoking a cigarette. The 30-second version starts immediately with C-3PO identifying R2-D2 as having a cigarette." This can probably be removed, as you describe both version in the synopsis.
 * 20) Can you ref the last sentence in the Development? Just using your first ref (1) will do fine there. 501st  dogma ( talk ) 14:47, March 24, 2014 (UTC)

Jang

 * Please go more into detail as to what was cut from the 30 second video and the alternate takes. What are you currently using in the synopsis? If the 30 second video is different in comparison to the 60 second, then this should be noted in the article. Both are non-canon so one does not trump the other even though one is shorter than the other.  JangFett  (Talk) 13:44, March 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * Done, let me know if you have further suggestions. -Thunderforge (talk) 20:58, March 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * Instead of the tag, I think it would be better if you write out the 30 second version under the 60 second version. It would be better since the 60 second version shouldn't be exclusive to the synopsis section.  JangFett  (Talk) 15:30, March 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I've created two synopses. Let me know if this is more what you are looking for. -Thunderforge (talk) 17:30, March 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * Much better. Good job.  JangFett  (Talk) 18:36, March 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * Could you possibly add another sentence or two in the intro? Just so it could be proportional to the body.  JangFett  (Talk) 18:36, March 12, 2014 (UTC)<?s>
 * I added one sentence to it giving a brief summary of the plot, but I'm not sure if it's redundant or not. If you have other suggestions, let me know. -Thunderforge (talk) 20:40, March 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * I think mentioning that the PSA had a 30 and 60 second version will be useful in the intro.  JangFett  (Talk) 17:19, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * Isn't this redundant because it's in the infobox already? I've gone ahead and made the change anyway. -Thunderforge (talk) 15:55, March 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * No, then it'll be infobox exclusive. Per common practice, anything in the infobox should be reflected in the article's main body.  JangFett  (Talk) 17:58, March 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * I do remember that some might object to linking to IU links since this article is a real-life OOU subject. I wouldn't suggest delinking all of the IU links and replace them with real-life OOU ones, but you should go ahead and ask users who are familiar with OOU. The SH would be a good place to start. Otherwise, I'd suggest keeping the links in the synopsis (since clearly 3PO and R2 are in the galaxy) and remove the IU links elsewhere. I would like to keep the linking consistent.  JangFett  (Talk) 18:36, March 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't see anything on the OOU Layout Guide from the Senate Hall, and it looks like all sorts of OOU featured articles, such as Agents of Chaos Duology and Sebastian Shaw include IU links in sections outside of the synopsis. -Thunderforge (talk) 18:26, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, then let's just leave it be for now.  JangFett  (Talk) 17:19, March 17, 2014 (UTC)

Winterz

 * Reload the infobox, you have additional fields there. Also, handsome work. Winterz (talk) 16:07, March 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * How do I go about doing this? -Thunderforge (talk) 20:58, March 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * Replace the current template with and then fill in the fields again or just press the "source" button on the bottom of the present template and then copy the fields from the Template page and fill them in again, replacing the current one. Winterz (talk) 21:56, March 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * Done! -Thunderforge (talk) 22:47, March 11, 2014 (UTC)