Talk:Human/Legends

Near-humans
I've redirected near-human to this article's near-human section. Anyone else think there's enough information that the article should be split? Silly Dan 14:14, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

I think a separate article on near-humans would be a good idea. At least, we could have a list of near-human species. JustinGann 01:30, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

OK! If no one raises objections, I'm splitting the articles. &mdash; Silly Dan 02:49, 27 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Done, see Near-Human. &mdash; Silly Dan  02:01, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Yuuzhan Vong
I added a section on Yuuzhan Vong to this article because the Yuuzhan Vong are a humanoid species. I got this information from Vector Prime and the Star Wars Technical Commentaries entry on |Humans and Humanoids. The Yuuzhan Vong look humanoid despite having organic implants and tatoos on their bodies. 222.152.165.223

"Humanoid" and "Near-Human" are not the same thing. There is another page for humanoids.
 * They get used interchangably sometimes, though. &mdash; Silly Dan  02:32, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Alderaan?
While I do think it's best to leave the Homeworld box as just Unknown, humans were definitely not from Alderaan. Alderaan was colonized around 25,000 BBY; Galactic City on Coruscant, however, was founded before 100,000 BBY. Kuralyov 21:59, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * True, but does anyone here actually believe they aren't from Coruscant? -- SFH 22:15, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * KFan II doesn't; his edit to that effect were what prompted me to say that. Kuralyov 22:18, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Me neither. Best to leave it as "unknown", or better yet, "various", since their origins are left mysterious.  &mdash; Silly Dan  01:10, 1 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * I figure the earliest planet with a date is the homeworld. Coruscant also just makes sense. It's the most populated. It's the galactic capital. All hyperspace routes lead to it. -- Riffsyphon1024 01:16, 1 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * That does make sense. I say we change it back to Unknown (possibly Coruscant).
 * Either way is really fine by me; I just thought I'd bringit up. Kuralyov 02:33, 1 Sep 2005 (UTC)

No, Coruscant?
So, it does say that Humans are from Coruscant, correct? How much uncertainty does the passage in question leave? &mdash; Silly Dan 00:37, 1 Nov 2005 (UTC) I completely disagree that humans evolved on Coruscant. I think NEC was mistaken to imply that. And I have to say this entry should be changed to not suggest the same. Throughout SW material previous to NEC it's often been said that the human homeworld is a forgotten mystery. It has also been established that, due to the extremely far distance from its sun, Coruscant is too cold to comfortably support humans w/o artificial means (Inside the Worlds of Ep I, Complete Locations). It always seemed to me that the reason Coruscant was chosen for the capital of the Republic (and therefore that all hyperspace routes lead to it, etc.) was that it is as centrally located in the galaxy as possible w/o radiation or the navigational hazards of the core becoming too big of a problem. It makes more sense for a world-covering city to be built on a barren planet with no living indigenous intelligent species than to intentionally eradicate one's native ecosystem to build one. If humans had evolved on Coruscant, in-universe scientists would have found evidence (fosil, etc.) to prove it, and there would be no mystery.
 * Not a lot. Coruscant is the earliest planet with humans living on it. It *is* possible they evolved elsewhere, and were brought to the world, but, according to the NEC, Coruscant's humans colonised Alderaan, Corellia, Corulag, Chandrilla, and pretty much every other famous human world. QuentinGeorge 12:08, 11 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but the N.E.C. said "possibly", so we have to say "possibly" too. --Master Starkeiller 19:38, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Average height
Only 1.7 metres? Just look at some human characters, they were much taller than 1.7. Darth Vader was 2.02, Palpatine was one of the shortest humans, but he was still 1.73! - TopAce 19:30 (GMT +1h) 10th September 2005
 * Perhaps we should put between 1.7 to 1.9 meters. -- SFH 18:21, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC)

It all happens in a Galaxy Far Far Away, but it's incredibly stupid to assume that Humans in it had a different average height than Humans on Earth. Almost no character/actors are exactly as tall as what we've listed as average because most of them belong to the same ethnicity. And a lot of them aren't even that tall (take a look at Leia/Fisher or Luke/Hammill). We shouldn't keep 1.80 as a compromise because 1.70 is already a compromise between all the taller actors and the real average Human height, which is, I believe, actually a few centimiters shorter than 1.70. --Ace ETP 19:29, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, diet and race are important factors in human height Those aren't the same in Star Wars.-LtNOWIS 20:21, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * But exactly what would lead you to assume that their effects are any different than as in the Real World, when "White" Human characters in Star Wars have the about the same average height as Caucasians on Earth? --Ace_ETP 02:09, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * The effects of race, diet and genetics would be the same. Well, maybe race would be different, since real-world ethnicities don't exist the Star Wars galaxy. What would be different is the proportions. I wouldn't be surprised if the Star Wars galaxy has a higher percentage of "white" humans, and thus a different average human height would be reached. The same goes for nutrition.-LtNOWIS 03:34, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)


 * True, but unlike as it with other species, an official source has never provided us with a figure indicating the average height for Humans in the GFFA (probably because it's a bit unnecesary), so why don't we just leave it as it is and try not to be overly speculative? --Ace_ETP 20:34, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Capitalization
There's been some question about whether we should capitalize "Human", just as we capitalize the names of all the other alien species, or if we should leave it uncapitalized as is standard in real-world articles. Here's a quick survey of the sources I had handy. It seems that "human" predominates, but "Human" is also common. &mdash; Silly Dan 01:43, 2 Jan 2006 (UTC)

"human"

 * Wretched Hives of Scum and Villainy
 * Platt's Smugglers Guide
 * Shadows of the Empire Planets Guide
 * Star Wars Trilogy Sourcebook - Special Edition
 * Cracken's Rebel Field Guide
 * The Abduction of Crying Dawn Singer
 * Gamemaster Screen, Revised
 * Death in the Undercity
 * Alien Encounters
 * The Essential Guide to Alien Species
 * Heroes and Rogues
 * Pirates & Privateers
 * The Essential Guide to Planets and Moons
 * The Thrawn Trilogy Sourcebook
 * Star Wars Encyclopedia
 * The Truce at Bakura

"Human"

 * Star Wars: The Roleplaying Game, Second Edition
 * Galaxy Guide 4: Alien Races
 * Galaxy Guide 6: Tramp Freighters
 * Galaxy Guide 8: Scouts
 * Galaxy Guide 9: Fragments from the Rim
 * Galaxy Guide 12: Aliens - Enemies and Allies
 * Platt's Starport Guide
 * Han Solo and the Corporate Sector Sourcebook
 * Rebel Alliance Sourcebook