Talk:Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith

Governor Tarkin's appearance in the film has been confirmed. Visit this site: Cast for Episode III --Sith Priestess 01:34, 11 Mar 2005 (GMT)
 * Pardon my brash jump to conclusions. If SW.com says it, then they have the final say. -- Riffsyphon1024 04:32, 11 Mar 2005 (GMT)
 * This article is not good. I am transferring the article from Wikipedia about Episode III here. - User:KFan II

If anyone wants to see the opening crawl, it's here: ]http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/bts/production/f20050126/indexp2.html]

I think that so called 'Full Script' should be removed, seeing as it is just a rehash of the hardback novel, and it's source is a branch off site of Supershadow.com Lord Patrick
 * Despite its poster, the script is accurate. The same version can be found at many sites across the web, and it is worth noting the Supershadow posted this after the script was released on the web. But, you can remove it if you like, the real question is, will it stay removed? I've no opinion one way or the other.--Eion 05:26, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Should we not, then, cite a source other than one that is known almost entirely for providing fabricated/non-canonical information? As much as SuperShadow is a source and the script of the film is, in some ways, an encyclopedic thing to have, I'd rather see the link removed until at least after the US release. I've no doubt it's close to the actual script, but unless we can say that it's entirely correct despite its source or can find a concurring source, it seems somehow...not right.- Murphy


 * I've included a note linking to SuperShadow's article and serving as a disclaimer, so that we cannot be held responsible for misinformation which may or may not occur within the script itself.-Murphy 12:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

Actually, it is accurate, but is the screenplay, not the script. For a more reliable source go here: Not surprising, considering he has been stealing from Milleniumfalcon.com since March. Lord Patrick 08:00, 18 May 2005 (UTC)


 * both scripts are the same thing--Wattamb5000 01:06, 8 Jan 2006 (UTC)

COMMENTS GO IN THE WookieeDesk--Wattamb5000 22:39, 2 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Plot summary

 * This plot "summary" needs some serious trimming. – Aidje talk 02:53, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)


 * I agree.--Wattamb5000 22:47, 2 Dec 2005 (UTC)

COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, AND VIDEOS GO IN THE WookieeDesk

Pic Wishlist
--Wattamb5000 19:35, 1 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Brookish Boon
 * Opula Deget
 * Lt Cdr Ejai
 * Eugroothura
 * A77
 * G21
 * Rute Gunnay
 * Son Haliikeenovich
 * Zyn Javeb
 * Jikesh Valia
 * Cpt Kagi
 * King Grakchawwaa
 * Ulfor Bombaasa
 * Tanner Cadaman
 * Neb Creip
 * IG-102
 * Ivor Drake
 * Led Daragon
 * Ichi-Tan Micoda
 * Pont Edisser
 * Shadday Potkin
 * R77
 * Salporin
 * Senin Vax
 * Osh Scal
 * Sitros
 * Duke Teta
 * Maneeli Tuun
 * Sateen Veste
 * Waks Trode
 * Dzorni Xam
 * Selif Xam
 * Solipo Yeb
 * Zittaasabba

Novelisation
I might be wrong since I have borrowed the book to a friend, plus i read only the German version, but from what I remember, de novel doesn't confirm "Shaak Ti's fate as shown on the DVD's deleted scenes", on the contrary, it rather indicates that Darth Vader killed Shaak Ti in the Jedi Temple; before he kills Jurokk he asks the gatemaster for the whereabouts of Ti. Do I recall right or has the book been significantly altered for German release? --Edeas 21:17, 9 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's exactly what happens. - TopAce 16:03, 12 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Ummm... so what's it we do in that case? Just delete that sentence? -- Edeas 22:29, 12 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Looks like, huh? Alright, will do that then... -- Edeas 17:08, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * I haven't read the novel, so I can't comment on it's contents, but in the deleted scene, it is indeed General Grevious who kill Shaak Ti (right?).--Thorvindr 14:59, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

"Wookiee good, eat wookiee"?
Can someone back up that "other deleted scene"? It seems a little out there. Yrfeloran 04:04, 12 March 2006 (UTC)


 * It's true. It was in the Revenge of the Sith script. Yoda was pretty much supposed to go insane to get rid of the Clonetroopers. Just think of The Empire Strikes Back and you'll know what I mean. Brandon Rhea 22:55 March 27, 2007 (UTC)

2007?! It's 2006!!

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Jedi from Order 66 article in recent Insider
Ok, Traavis and Shryne, both EU characters, yet in recent Insider given real human being faces--are these just folks dressed up for the articles, or Extras from Ep III (or II)? If extras, we need to add them to new character!JustinGann 00:39, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Liberal Bias?

Has George Lucas really confirmed or denied a liberal bias in this film? It would seem odd he would want to put off Conservative Star Wars fans.
 * Sorry. You've SEEN the prequels, right (and the OT, for that matter)? You understand that the entire saga is about a fight for liberty over the tyranny of an oppressive, power-hungry government, driven by social security? Does that seem at all familiar to you?--Thorvindr 15:03, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Up for featured at Wikipedia.
Over at Wikipedia, The Filmaker has nominated ROTS to be a featured article. I encourage all Wikipedians here to go vote! Adamwankenobi Talk to me! My home. 15:06, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * It's on the main page today. . -LtNOWIS 04:13, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted Dialogue and Other Deleted Scenes
I remember reading (I will confirm this when I get a chance) more dialogue between Dooku, Kenobi, and Skywalker in their duel on the Invisible Hand where Dooku says "Just because there are two of you, does not give you the advantage!" Majorthomme 02:20, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Dooku in fact says that in the film. Not in those words, but he says "twice the pride, double the fall." On the other hand, that could be in reference only to Anakin.--Thorvindr 15:04, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Question
What is the name of the device Vader is transported in during the scene in the rain on Coruscant near the end of the film? Adamwankenobi Talk to me! My home. 04:59, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

New Continuity
Why does the lists of new continuity include characters (ect.) that already appeared in comics like Obsession before Episode III was released? Should these be ereased from the list?Bonko 00:41, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I think so. 04:39, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * No, bc appearances in Obsession, etc. were essentially preveiews; they remain new continuity bc they were created for the movie.JustinGann 07:29, 24 July 2006 (UTC) ;)

Trivia, Mirroring SW films and References to OT sections
It looks like things are repeated to some extent in these 3 sections (too long to easily check). The appeance of the Millennium Falcon is an example. In any event I suggest making the 'Mirroring from other Star Wars films' and 'References to the original trilogy' subsections under the 'Trivia' section. This will keep together and should help to cut down on the repetition and overlap. Unless there's a better idea, I'll start working on it in a day or two. -Finlayson 18:19, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Well I moved the sections together without removing anything. But it got reverted with little consideration.  Whatever, somebody else can clean it up.. -Finlayson 02:29, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Memorable Quotes
Hey, Is there a reason why there are no quotes listed under "Memorable Quotes"? --Taybo20 17:24, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Other movie articles have a section like that. Trying to stick with similar formats for them.  Add a quality quote or two from RotS if you want. -Finlayson 23:26, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Quotes are going to be edited on the page. I will constantly edit the quotes only keeping those that are vital to the central story of the movie.  There are a lot of funny and quality quotes in the Star Wars series but not all of the quotes have anything to do with the movie directly.  The quotes listed on the movie pages need to remain concise as to not take up more room than necessary.  Posting quotes that are not important in conveying the central theme of the movie will be removed. Please put these on character quote pages!!!

Time
How long does the movie last in the starwars Timeline? From the events of Curoscant to the mission at Mustafar. It got me because Pedme reviled that she was pregnent, but she wasnt really showing. Then she gives birth at the end. --70.71.210.205 06:47, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Read Star Wars Insider 84. According to the editor, it lasts about nine days. Padme was wearing the same prosthetic belly throughout the entire movie, and she was only just telling Anakin because he had been gone for months. Hope that helps! - Milo Fett Comlink 15:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Attacking the Bush administration...
I can't see how the reference to the so-called war on terror can be a personal attack on Bush. Should we remove the personal attack on Hitler too then? KEJ 08:46, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd say it was more POV than a personal attack. -- I need a name (Complain here) [[Image:Sithempire2.jpg|20px]] 23:30, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, this film is absolutely a satire of the current state of American government. Day by day, our liberties are being taken away from us, and no on does anything. George W. is exactly like Palpatine in this manner. He used his power as president to mis-inform Congress and trick them into giving him war-time power when such power was clearly not justified, just as Palpatine used his influence to fool the Galactic Senate into granting him war-time powers to fight a war that he had created. Anybody who wants to argue with me on this can shut up before they even open there mouths, because this isn't the place for political debate. I'm drawing an irrefutable parallel between reality and literature.--Thorvindr 15:13, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 10-4. --Imp 15:45, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Should We...
Should we add that Clone swamp trooper armor resembeles that of Imperial Scout troopers and that the Galactic Marine armor look similar to Snowtrooper armor to |Mirroring from other Star Wars films section ?--SWME 02:33, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Umm..hello ? it's been 2 days since I posted this suggestion !--SWME 23:23, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * This happens to me a lot. I make a comment and no one notices at all. I don't see any problem with what you're suggesting.--Darth OblivionComlink[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 23:27, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Is there somewhere else we can post questions like this where people might actually notice them instead of completely ignoring them?--Darth OblivionComlink[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 23:34, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Good point...--SWME 23:53, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Look at Talk:Mantigrue. I'm asking for a source, but it's being completely ignored. I give up.--Darth OblivionComlink[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 23:55, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Added it to the section.--SWME 02:09, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
 * What are you complaining about? Add it yourself, then post a comment saying: "I did this. What do you guys think?" If nobody says anything (or edits the content), clearly nobody think's is that bad an idea.--Thorvindr 15:15, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Easter Egg?
How do you access the Yoda easter egg, and the similar easter eggs reputed to accompany the other movies? Adenn&#39;ca Kaje 17:32, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 * You can find that info in this article, 1138 (number), under Easter Egg at the bottom. Chervil 19:46, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

My comments on the movie
I have not read the book version yet, but expect too soon.


 * Padme's death was out of place. There were also problems with her pregnacy.
 * The film was such that it all appeared to take place in just a few days. Yet Padme is supposed to go from not visibly pregnant (Anakin has to be told) to full term in the course of the movie.
 * At birth, we see two full term babies. Yet Padme's belly was no were near that big.  I can understand the belly part some what as Padme had to fool Anakin into believing there was only one baby.  However, those babies looked rather large and did not have the right skin color for a newborn.
 * ROJ has Leia describing her mother as though she knew her. She was "beautiful" and "died when I was very young."  Both imply that Leia was at least several years old when Padme died.
 * This problem was in fact addressed (not well, but addressed) during the birth sequence. There's a shot where we see Leia staring intently at Padme. I think we're meant to believe that this image is where Leia's memory of her mother comes from. And actually, if you listen to Leia's description of her mother, it fits rather well, since she says she remembers mostly feelings of her mother. While it may seem unbelievable for a newborn to remember anything, there are documented ocassions of children remembering images or stimuli from there infancy and retaining those memories into adulthood. On top of that, Leia is Anakin's daughter (Anakin being one of the most powerful Force users ever to live). Any seemingly supernatural feats of observation can be easily attributed to her attunement to the Force. As far as Padme's pregnancy goes, read the above comment dealing with prosthetics.--Thorvindr 14:56, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * All of those problems would have been solved if Lucas could have arranged for Padme to never be visibly pregnant during the movie. Instead, she would lived for several years, perhaps in failing health.  To keep her and Leia hidden from Vader, Padme would use an assumed name and appear to be a mere servant in the Organa household.
 * I like this idea, but there's just one problem. Vader found Luke, never having met him, and knew that he was his son (and not just because they have the same name). I don't think it's in any way conceivable that Padme, whom Anakin loved so much that he violated the tenets of the Jedi Code, could ever hide from him, especially if she was in close proximity to Leia. The combined "disturbances in the Force", emmanating not only from his lost love, but from his own daughter (who is, arguably, as strong in the Force as Vader himself) would without question draw not only Vader, but likely Palpatine, to them. As it is, it's a miracle that Vader didn't even discover that he had a daughter until the day he died.--Thorvindr 14:56, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Too often do we see someone (Anakin, Obi Wan, or R2) slamming into something or having something heavy crash down on them -- and yet no serious damage is done.
 * Obi Wan and Anakin are thrown around in the battle to free Palaptine. Most notably, Obi Wan is thrown across the room into a railing.  That impact should have broken his back and possibly either paralized or killed him.
 * Then we see a heavy platform fall on Obi Wan. That platform looked heavy enough to crush a person.  Yet, Anakin is able to lift the platform readily.  Furthermore, Obi Wan is only stunned.  A few minutes later, he is 100% and fighting Grievious.
 * We also see R2 crash into the deck followed by tons of debris. That debris should have turned him into scrap metal.  Yet a moment later, he appears unharmed.
 * Then we see R2 fly into where Anakin, Obi Wan, and Palaptine are being held and bounce of the wall as though he were made of rubber.
 * Okay. With R2 being slammed into the flight deck into the pile of starfighters you've got a point. But Anakin and Obi-Wan are both Jedi Masters (Anakin is not granted the title of Master, but his level of skill with the Force certainly puts him on that level). Do you honestly think that dropping a physical object on one of them is going to seriously damage them? As you point out later, (most) Jedi have the power of telekinesis. When Obi-Wan was thrown to the side during the fight against Dooku, Anakin needed spare only a breath of concentration to slide his body out of the way when that platform came down on him (which, if you watch closely, is exactly what happens). Aside from that, Obi-Wan himself was likely conscious just long enough to realize what was going on and do everything in his considerable power to slow his impact. Next, you cite Anakin lifting the platform off Obi-Wan. Do I really need to recount the events surrounding a certain X-Wing crashing into a swamp? Yoda, an old, dying, mildly senile Jedi Master, is able to lift an Incom T-65 X-Wing out of the Dagobah swamp using only his mind. Do you really think it should be difficult for Anakin, a young, strong, angry Jedi Master (again, not official title) in his prime to lift an elevated platform (largely free of debris) from the dry floor? Next, we have Obi-Wan going from zero to hero in two minutes. Again: Jedi Master. He uses the Force to help him quickly recover his strength. This isn't any kind of stretch of imagination. It has been shown time and again that Jedi have the ability to increase their stamina past the ordinary limits of an ordinary being of similar species. And R2 bounces off the wall because he ran into it. If you run into a wall, do you stand there with your face in it for two minutes, or do you step back the moment you know you've stopped moving forward? Well, you're a slow-thinking, long-reaction time sentient being. R2-D2 is a quick-thinking, zero-reaction time computer. He bouncs off the wall because he backed up after he hit it.--Thorvindr 14:56, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


 * What is a ray shield? Couldn't the Jedi cut the floor and go down like in the deleted scene?
 * Obviously, a ray shield is something that a lightsaber can't get through. It's also obviously something that Obi-Wan and Anakin know a lot more about than you do, because if they could get around it by cutting through the floor, chances are very good that they would do precisely that.--Thorvindr 14:56, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


 * It seems someone doesn't understand artifical gravity. The only way you would feel a change would be if the systems failed or could not compensate for manuevers.  When the ship descends rapidly after taking hits, everyone falls down.
 * Yes. You're absolutely correct. There is someone that does not understand artificial gravity. His name is Will Pittenger. In most instances, artificial gravity is nowhere near strong enough to combat actualy gravity. When the ship descends after being hit, it comes within the gravity well of Coruscant, which is far too powerful for the Invisible Hand's own engines to over-power. Everyone falls down because there is suddenly extra gravity. On the other hand, you yourself provide a far simpler answer to your own dilemma. Do you suppose it's possible that of all the fire the ship has taken, some of it somehow hit the engines? Do you suppose engines are a primary target when a 'fighter squadron assaults a capital ship? Having taken out a Star Destroyer or two in my day, I happen to know that it is, and for this precise reason: with no engines, not only can a ship not move, but it also has no artificial gravity, which tends to, at the very least, dis-orient her crew.--Thorvindr 14:56, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


 * If Jedi can levite items, why not themselves? This is something that goes back to when Jabba forced Luke through the trap door.  I would assume that Luke would sense that and simply float.  He could then say "I assume you expected me to be a drop out of Jedi school."  Here in EpIII, the scenes in the turbolift shaft would never have happened.
 * Actually, this is something that goes back farther than Luke and Jabba. It goes back as far as there have been Jedi. To my knowledge, there is no example of any Jedi being able to levitate himself, though there are numerous examples of them levitating other beings. I'm not certain of the explanation for this, but if Jedi could fly, why on Earth would they ever walk (sounds like a joke, but I assure you it's a serious point)? Also, it's probably (I don't know, since DON'T have telekinesis) much easier to cushion your fall than to stop yourself from falling. It's probably even easier than that to strengthen the resilience of your arm so it doesn't tear out of its socket under the strain of suddenly supporting the weight of three average-sized Humans. I say this was probably the easiest thing for Anakin to do because it is, in fact, what he did.--Thorvindr 14:56, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Will (talk -- contribs) 04:08, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * General Grievious's armor was rather lacking in the chest area if Obi Wan was able to fire at his heart.
 * Am I really going to make this same point for the third (fourth?) time? OBI-WAN = JEDI MASTER. He could literally shoot the flees off a dog's back from 100 meters away. He is able to aim at the smallest chink in the armor protecting General Grevious. A chink which, not by coincidence, he put there himself not five minutes previous.--Thorvindr 14:56, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Opening Crawl Differences
All movies have 2 sentences in the first paragraph except RotJ has 1 sentence and RotS has 4 (if War! is counted). All movies have 1 sentence in paragraphs 2 and 3. I've noted this in talk for all movies. -- anon, I'll register if I post again. 12:20 EST, December 28, 2006