Talk:Endor/Legends

Title dispute
Two things:
 * 1) "Forest Moon of Endor" is not the actual name of this moon, obviously; it's just that no canonical source has given it a name.
 * 2) Knowing that, it should be obvious that "forest moon" is not a proper name, simply a placeholder title used by Ackbar in Episode VI.
 * So, the moon is not actually named "Forest Moon of Endor;" we can only assume that the Ewoks have given it a name, but until we have a canonical source saying what that name is we're forced to go by a description, not a name. Hence, there's no reason for any part of "forest moon of Endor" to be capitalized other than "Endor." MarcK 11:45, 31 Oct 2005 (UTC)

As you see, I have my sources... http://media.ign.com/boardfaces/3.gif --Master Starkeiller 11:51, 31 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Instant scan:
 * It's customary for guides like that to capitalize each word; the point still stands that it's only a description and shouldn't be capitalized per the Wookieepedia standards. MarcK 11:59, 31 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, it's in Star Wars: Complete Locations too. It's the planet's name alright. --Master Starkeiller 12:02, 31 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Interesting development: the Databank notes that the planet's called Endor, as is the moon we're currently debating over...this complicates things slightly. As for reference books capitalizing "forest moon," think about this: from an in-universe perspective, who in their right mind would actually name it the "Forest Moon of Endor?" If somebody were to name it they'd give it an actual name; as it is now it's simply, from an out of universe perspective, a placeholder description for lack of an available proper name. MarcK 12:14, 31 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Do we know it's orbit number around Endor? Like is it Endor 6 or Endor 3? -- SFH 15:11, 31 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * You should look at that book more closely and find that it is 'often simply called Endor'. That would solve alot of problems. However the gas giant about which it orbits is also Endor. Now it gets confusing. -- Riffsyphon1024 19:42, 31 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Endor (moon) is always a possibility. Or, because it's the more commonly referenced of the two, simply move it to Endor and move the actual Endor to Endor (planet). What is it with Lucas and moons surrounding uninhabitable planets anyway? MarcK 21:39, 4 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * From the Databank: "Secluded in a remote corner of the Outer Rim Territories, the gas giant Endor and its verdant moon of the same name..." I support the idea of moving Endor to Endor (planet) and this moon to Endor. - Sikon [ Talk ] 02:09, 11 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Let's put this to a vote already! --MarcK [talk] 04:33, 20 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Well then, as it's now been a week I'd say it's time to wrap up the vote. The result of the debate was Endor, with the current "Endor" article being moved to Endor (planet). --MarcK [talk] 10:34, 27 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Forest moon of Endor
Support:

Forest Moon of Endor
Support:
 * 1) Adamwankenobi 04:55, 20 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Master Starkeiller 15:39, 20 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) SFH 06:02, 22 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Endor
Support:
 * 1) --MarcK [talk] 04:33, 20 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Riffsyphon1024 04:45, 20 Nov 2005 (UTC) -- as long as the gas giant is renamed Endor (planet)
 * 3) SFH 04:47, 20 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Sikon [ Talk ] 05:05, 20 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * 5)  &mdash; Silly Dan  18:32, 26 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Comments:
 * I should add that "Endor" is most likely to be used when searching for the moon so it should be the first to come up. Not many people will search for its planet. Forest Moon of Endor, Forest moon of Endor, Sanctuary Moon, and Sanctuary Moon of Endor will all redirect to Endor. -- Riffsyphon1024 04:58, 20 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * And Endor (moon), right? &mdash; Silly Dan  18:32, 26 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Endor (moon)
Support:

Endor with Ewok
Does anyone own this hasbro toy? It has a great globe of the moon. I found some online scans and got as many place names as I could, but there's at least one name I can't make out, a body of Water called "Feylak" .... something. Help? Any other names I failed to see?70.185.132.98 10:24, 6 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Amazingly enough, I think I do have this (it's got a spring-loaded Ewok on a glider inside, right?); I had no clue what it was, though, having bought it at a small-scale Star Wars convention in May. The body of water you're looking for, I think, is the Fey'laric Ocean.  I'm not sure how seriously I'd take that globe, though, considering it places the Rear Bunker hundreds of miles from the Shield Generator, and puts the locations of several Caravan of Courage sites on another continent from Bright Tree Village.  jSarek 10:49, 6 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, Sarek, thx! I won't take the placements on Globe seriosuly, but the names themselves are canon, many from other sources.  You may notice the similar Dagobah and Tatooine globes--at last, some placenames for Dagobah, although thye seem to all be variants of "such and such swamp" hehe!JustinGann 10:55, 6 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Sanctuary moon?
How about calling it the Sanctuary moon of Endor? I believe it has been called that in universe.

Cartoons
In the cartoons the Ewoks themselves call it Endor (they call the planet Tana btw).

Alien from Cartoon Wishlist
Luck Sprites Grass Trekkers Skandits Gibs the Eodon Tambles Dark Wizards Teebo's fish friend (the little one) Bilbob the Mystic Jadru the Enchantress Tumblebunny tamers

Region?
The Essential Guide to Planets and Moons places Endor, along with the whole Moddell Sector, in Wild Space. We need to find a source of more canon to verify this. Θ 06:50, 6 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Points of Interest
Could somebody remove some or a lot of the Points of Interest in the Infobox? I would, but I the only things i consider of importance on the Moon are Bright Tree Village, the Marauder's Fortess, and the Imperial base that housed the Shield generator. So obviously there are some more places that were important. -- SFH 02:26, 27 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * We'll have to make each location an article now, so as to not lose them. -- Riffsyphon1024 02:30, 27 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Native species
I think it's a mistake to assume that every sentient species introduced in the Ewoks cartoon and comic is native to Endor. With the gravitational disturbances that Endor is known for, it's not a stretch to believe that many individuals have been stranded on Endor over the years. The species introduced on the Ewoks cartoon and comic thus do not necessarily have to be native to the moon. Many other species are likely not species at all but spirits of Ewok mythology (Frost Sprites, Luck Sprites). In short, I think that unless a source firmly establishes that a specific species is native to Endor (The Essential Guides, A Guide to the Star Wars Universe, Star Wars Encyclopedia, etc.), it should not be listed as native here. See Talk:Star Wars: Ewoks for more on this. — SavageBob 01:03, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
 * another posibility is that many of them are ewok subspecies
 * Granted, SavageBob. But I think it's just as big a mistake to conclusively say, as the current revision does, "In addition to the three sentient native species (Ewoks, Duloks, and Yuzzum), the forest moon is inhabited by many races descended from shipwreck survivors, including:..." Even assuming they're all nonnatives, we've no way of knowing for sure how most of these species came to Endor. I'd be more comfortable saying something to the effect that these have been found on Endor and may or may not be native. I'll do so if there is no objection....--Valin Kenobi 06:55, 9 October 2006 (UTC)


 * There is also a ferret seen in Caravan of Courage. should that be mentioned or is there another name for it on Endor? Micah Giett 15:59, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Confederacy of Independent Systems?
Since when was Endor part of the CIS? Cutch 04:46, 3 May 2006 (UTC)


 * "During the Clone Wars, it had a Separatist base, discovered by Aayla Secura." Trucidar 05:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Edit -- Couple of Corrections
Two lines:

1. ''At first they saw C-3PO as a deity, and prepared to sacrifice the main team in celebration to the droid. Leia, who had been found and befriended by the Ewoks, saved them. The Ewoks would play a pivotal part in the forthcoming battle.''

And:

2. ''But fortunes changed. The Ewoks, thanks to Leia's diplomatic skills, attacked the groundside Stormtrooper legions, and the Rebel commandos took advantage of the confusion.''

Someone is a big fan of Leia I suppose because she had almost nothing to do with either of these. Lines changed as follows:

1. ''The Rebels were soon freed however after Luke Skywalker, using a few clever Force tricks, and with the help of C-3PO deceived the Ewoks into believing the droid possessed powerful magic he would use against them if his friends were not freed. Afterwards, Threepio captivated the Ewoks with an epic recounting on the events leading up to their arrival on the forest moon. The Ewoks then inducted the Rebels into their tribe with great enthusiasm, cementing their cooperation against the Imperials in the forthcoming battle in which the Ewoks would play a pivotal role.''

2. ''But fortunes changed. The Ewoks, thanks to an impromptu distraction from C-3PO and R2-D2, attacked the groundside Stormtrooper legions, and the Rebel commandos took advantage of the confusion.''

If anybody has a problem with these, I know especially the first one is a much longer, feel free to change and add notes here for details. Thanks.

Ummm... Huh?
In the Semisapient species sub-section, Dandelion warriors are called "sapient plants". See the contradiction? Since I don't know much about the Endor cartoons, I'm labelling the section with a contradiction template until it is fixed. Totema1 17:29, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Gravity
Why is it listed as 40% standard? Nav-computer lists it as 85%. - Sikon 07:07, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Quote
I hope I'm not alone in this, but who thinks the quote says nothing about Endor? I thought quotes said something about the subject, and Ackbar saying, "This is the forest moon Endor," doesn't say anything about Endor. --Darth Tyler(talk) 21:08, 9 March 2007 (UTC)