Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations/Andrevea River


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Andrevea River

 * Nominated by: Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 14:25, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: A really long river

(2 ECs/1 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) ~ SavageBob 05:10, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) There we go.  SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 00:51, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3)  1358  (Talk) 11:53, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

Object
 * Prepare to be savaged...
 * Please at least stub the swamp.
 * In my opinion, there is too little information even to stub the swamp. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 21:04, September 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, well, if the Grey Cadre overrule my objection, that's cool, but I think even a stub is better than nothing. It's a canonical subject that we know exists, even if we don't know much about it. ~ SavageBob 00:28, October 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * The swamp isn't even referenced in the game, just in the CSWE. And that doesn't provide anything to put in an article, just that "a swamp existed." Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 02:26, October 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, if you feel strongly about it, feel free to ignore the objection. I stand by it, though, as the swamp is a canonical subject, even if all we know is that it was on Naboo and the river emptied into it. If the Grey Cadre feels my objection is unwarranted, they'll ignore it and pass the article. ~ SavageBob 03:38, October 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think this is one of those grey (no pun intended) areas that can be left to the discretion of the nominator. Although, if such an article was made, one would also have to be made on Naboo's polar regions. And Bob, you know the EC does not and can not just ignore an objection. It's against the rules. You either have to be satisfied and strike your objection, or involve the EC, which will make a judgement on the objection's validity, and uphold it if necessary. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 01:03, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * To me, a swamp is like a river, an ocean, a lake, etc. It's a bounded waterform that probably has an official name; we just don't know it. A "polar region" on the other hand is a more vague land area, something that isn't reckoned the same way as the Black Sea or the Blue Lagoon or the Atchafalaya Swamp. So, yeah, I don't want to be a jerk here, but if CP feels strongly that we don't need an article on the swamp, I'd like the GC to make a call. ~ SavageBob 15:17, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, if the swamp article would be made, it would have precisely one sentence and yet still be complete. As some admin said, 'this isn't the third stormtrooper to the left' wiki. As a side note, there is a red link for the swamps where a trading village rests. It may or may not be the same swamp. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 20:14, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * In terms of an individual article, I don't believe that there is a need for such an article. I wouldn't mind its existence, but I wouldn't see it as necessary. What about an article for the swamps of Naboo as a compromise then? There's plenty of info, even outside the game, that could go in there. It could contain some useful, unique information, and hopefully satisfy both sides. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 00:47, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you mean one article on all the swamps of Naboo lumped together? I'd be against that, simply for the precedent it'd set or stuff like Oceans of Chandrila and Mountains of Tatooine and the like. CP, are you fundamentally against the idea of an article on the swamp we're debating? If that's not the case, I'll write it and support the article! :) ~ SavageBob 03:38, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, not fundamentally against the idea. If you feel there is enough information from the CSWE, then go ahead. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 19:09, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Which article in the CSWE is it that mentions the swamp? I was ready to make the swamp article, but I checked the entry on "Adrevea", and all it says is that it was a river on Naboo, with no mention of a swamp. It is in some other entry? ~ SavageBob 16:59, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * The entry for Ferentina, as the ref note says. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 18:48, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Needs a BTS section. Tis all. ~ SavageBob 20:05, September 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the suggestions. BTS added. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 21:04, September 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Soresu
 * Remove the TOC.
 * It appears automatically when we have several subsections. It can't be removed--can it? Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 03:32, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * See my edit. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 08:21, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Again, date the invasion of Naboo.
 * Done. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 03:32, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * In the bts, could you elaborate more on the River's involvement in the game? SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 01:03, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I expanded the action during the body. Sorry, couldn't stop once I started. Anyhoo, I added a small detail to the BTS. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 03:32, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * The camps were later liberated by members of Bravo Squadron. Lieutenant Gavyn Sykes utilized a stolen Federation gunboat to travel downriver from a disabled Trade Federation base to the mainland river delta, where the camps had been established. Upon releasing the prisoners, Please stay chronological here. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 08:21, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sentences combined. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 21:09, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * There seems to be some relevant info in the disabled base article that could be in here, such as the mines.
 * Looks like it could be given a History section. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 04:04, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Both added. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 01:44, October 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Same as the disabled base: could upriver be changed to "down the river"?
 * During the Trade Federation invasion of the planet in 32 BBY,[2] the Federation established slave camps for Naboo citizens on the banks of the river. Needs to be stated that the base lay near the river's source. In addition, a direct statement about the destruction of the base would be good: In order to liberate the camps, Lieutenant Gavyn Sykes of Bravo Squadron utilized a stolen Federation gunboat to travel upriver from a disabled Trade Federation base. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 03:39, October 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * How are the changes regarding these two? Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 14:33, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

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