Talk:Empire's Wrath

First significant plot/bio addition + to do
I've written up the first draft here, at least for as far as I am into TOR (Tatooine). It's not bad, but as it is a first draft, it will need both expansion and revision. My immediate thoughts on improvement: -- DigiFluid 16:40, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Needs to be completed. I can only write the story as far as I know it, which is currently Tatooine.
 * Needs to be rechecked for both grammar and flow. I consider myself a pretty proud Grammar Nazi, but things always slip through the cracks and it would be better if someone else was revising as well--call it peer review
 * Needs to be made gender-neutral. I knew this when I was writing, but for both brevity and the sake of trying to write sentences that actually made sense, I have frequently referred to this character as male. This should be addressed sooner rather than later--I have no intention of trying to dictate canon, and would like to see this fixed asap, but I'll need help.

It also needs to be decided as to which alignment to write the article; you can play a light side Sith Warrior or a Dark Side one. I'd suggest trying to keep the article itself neutral as possible (IE, instead of 'choked the older couple to death' in reference to Jaesa's parents, say 'confronted the older couple and the lone Jedi') until Bioware gives us a little more to go on as far as the 'canon' path of the Sith Warrior, if there is one. A second section should detail the other path. IE, if the main article covers darkside, we need a section covering the light side alternatives in the main story. Just my two cents. LukeDanger 20:09, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * You may want to weigh in here, where that very issue is being discussed (specifically, the second vote). I'll admit I've been a bit premature in parts of this article with choosing dark side as the way to go with writing, as the vote is still open, but it's currently completely one-sided; that's the direction I've been writing in. Check it out and weigh in. You don't have enough edits to cast a vote, but there's discussion space at the bottom, and as many opinions as possible are a great thing in establishing consensus! -- DigiFluid 20:14, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Updated to-do list: Jan 20/2012
Been a couple weeks since I wrote the first to-do list, so I figure it's time for a revision on priorities: -- DigiFluid 20:40, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Completion! I have been writing this as I work my way through the storyline in-game, and due to this the article remains incomplete. This is likely to continue in this fashion until and unless someone who has finished this class quest steps in and polishes off the Warrior's story.
 * PICTURES! More and more I'm noticing that there seems to be a severe shortage of TOR-related pictures on Wookieepedia. I'm a firm believer that a wall of text is a major deterrent when it comes to Wikis/Wikias, and so the article as it is now is not as good as it should be IMO. If anyone else out there is playing the Sith Warrior quest, some help with screenshots would be really fantastic. Obviously we can't have pictures of the Warrior him/herself, as the appearance is user-defined, but for places and people that the character interacts with, there's a wealth of things that could be screenshotted and added in here.
 * Copy-editing and revisions are needed. There don't seem to be many of us working on this page, and in the spirit of Wiki/a, I don't like how that translates into this page largely reflecting the mindsets of a small few (and largely at this point, me). Let's democratize this page, shall we? If something in the article is mis-typed, grammatically goofy, or just in sore need of re-write, step in and do so!
 * Vigilance on gender neutrality. Writing an entire article to be gender-neutral is a challenge, even moreso than I was expecting. We all need to keep each other in line on this. If someone edits in a he/him/his/she/her/hers (etc), fix it! Whether fortunately or unfortunately, this character does not have a canon sex and it isn't up to us to choose one.

Name Change
Should we rename it too Emperor's Wrath since its the canon name (I don't have the game)?--JacktheBlack 15:46, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * My personal inclination would be no. Emperor's Wrath is a title, not a proper name (and no, the irony of using a non-name as this article title is not lost on me ;)). Besides--the Emperor's Wrath page already exists for said rank, so moving an individual's story into an article dedicated to a title would be....wrong. At least IMO. -- DigiFluid 15:51, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * So Unidentified Emperor's Wrath (Cold War) would be a more canon name then?--JacktheBlack 18:45, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * That kind of runs into two problems though. The first being--that isn't a canon name either, so what's the point? The second is less serious IMO, but still worth mentioning: wouldn't such a move be unnecessarily spoilery for a fairly recently released product?
 * This is not to say that I think that idea is without merit, either. If we had a random human Imperial captain, we'd likely go by "unidentified Imperial captain" (recognizing the association/rank) because it's more specific than "unidentified human". So there's also definitely some sense to that idea.
 * Consider me wishy-washy on it. Maybe someone else with more experience/better understanding of naming policies could weigh in. -- DigiFluid 19:02, January 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree with JacktheBlack, whilst Emperor's Wrath is a title not a name, we don't currently know this individuals name, and specific title is far more preferable than the vague title it has at the moment. But my suggestion would be to move this article to 'Tempest' which is the callsign the Sith Warrior's given for space combat. Alexsau1991 (talk page) StupidSithEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 20:21, January 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Now that is not a bad idea at all. I hesitate a bit on using it as the individual's name (since it's his ship callsign), but it's a heck of a lot more specific than what we're using now. -- DigiFluid 20:31, January 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Can we get a Admin's opinion on the matter?--JacktheBlack 18:09, January 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * I think he should have a name change too. I kinda liked the Wrath idea, but that won't work well, I know. Maybe we could find someone who has finished the story line for the Warrior and see if he gats any titles we can use other then Tempest and Wrath.--Jet Twilights 05:49, January 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * The way this page is being written, I'm starting to wonder if I'm the only Wookieepedian playing this class (lol). I'll confirm as soon as I can, but I'm quite a ways from the end yet. -- DigiFluid 06:11, January 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * What about: The Second Emperor's Wrath, it would be accurate at least.--Gboy4 12:55, February 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Eh. That's just another conjectural name/title for the article. I think it might be slightly more accurate if we called it "Unidentified Emperor's Wrath (Cold War)", but that's not really all that far-removed from where we are now. – DigiFluid 13:34, February 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * But look at the Hero of Tython and the Barsen'thor - those are titles too, aren't they? And the character is the second, because Scourge was the first - plus, he's immortal and he was the Wrath until he defected. --Cade1 16:32, February 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree fully with Cade1. I suggest we move this article forthwith to either Emperor's Wrath (Cold War era) or Emperor's Wrath (second). To name the article by it's title is preferable to the current conjectural name it has. Alexsau1991 (talk page) StupidSithEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 19:39, February 28, 2012 (UTC)

Homeworld
I'm playing through the Warrior right now, and over the course of several conversations the Warrior is established to have come from a noble Sith family from Dromund Kaas. I could find the clips that prove this, though it might take quite a while. But I'll leave the infobox as is, for now. Alexsau1991 (talk page) 00:54, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Er....SW was the first class I played, I don't remember any such references... &mdash; DigiFluid(Whine here) 01:11, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Alex, isn't the Warrior supposed to be a slave? I've heard that somewhere. Cade   Calrayn  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 01:21, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * No, the Inquisitor's the (former) slave. One example of a reference is on Korriban, some Sith Lord can task you with scanning the Overseer's purity, in conversation you can mention your noble Sith linage and background, when he implies your blood is not pure. Alexsau1991 (talk page) SithEmblemTOR.PNG 01:42, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

On a side note, the image I added for the infobox is of a story based reward that every Sith Warrior receives, I've tightly cropped it so's that the body type isn't visable. Alexsau1991 (talk page) 20:36, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... Alex, I'm not sure we can do that. What if the Wrath is a Twi'lek? Their lekku would show. (I'm pretty sure Twi'leks can be Warriors now, what with Legacy - every class can be any race.) Cade   Calrayn  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 20:39, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * The Warrior can't be a Twi'lek, the only possible way is directly connected to game mechanics - ie the Legacy system, which is not canon. Alexsau1991 (talk page) SithEmblemTOR.PNG 20:54, May 10, 2012 (UTC)