Forum:CT Archive/Mon Calamari (planet) or Dac?

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Proposal
Currently, Mon Calamari (planet) redirects to Dac, and some (but not all) references to the planet say Dac in their links. This is confusing for users trying to find information out about the planet, which is only called "Dac" in a handful of obscure sources.

I contend that "Dac" should be moved to "Mon Calamari (planet)." Barring that, at the very least, intertextual links should at least show "Mon Calamari" and point to Dac.

Reasons to move:

 * Mon Calamari is its official basic name.
 * Mon Calamari is how it's known to most Star Wars fans.
 * Mon Calamari is how it's referred to in the vast majority of sources.
 * Daniel Wallace, who brought the term "Dac" back into continuity in Geonosis and the Outer Rim Worlds, has gone on record stating he thinks using Dac as the primary term is a bad idea (his opinion is spread over several posts, beginning here).
 * This Wikia is written as if it were a standard IU reference work. As such, it should, in titles, use the universal standard names of planets, i.e., Mon Calamari, Circarpous V, Marat V, and Sartinaynian, not local indig names or codenams such as Dac, Mimban, Skye, and Bastion, regardless of fan preferences and familiarities.JustinGann 05:35, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Reasons to not move:

 * Dac is the name used in the native languages of the planet.
 * Dac does not require an awkward (planet) disambiguator in its title.

jSarek 02:41, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Move to Mon Calamari (planet)

 * 1) Support. It's Mon Calamari in Basic, so that's where it should be here. jSarek 02:41, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) For reasons similar to the Mandalorian move. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 02:47, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) Adamwankenobi 03:07, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) I made my reasons clear in the same thread as Wallace. Common use "in universe" is Mon Calamari. "Dac" should still redirect to Mon Calamari. --JMM 03:28, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * 5) Officially known by the Republic as "Mon Calamari". Also, "Dac" = Mon Calamarian/Quarrenese. "Mon Calamari" = Basic. Wookieepedia = Basic. --Azizlight 03:50, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * 6) This especially includes all battles. -LtNOWIS 04:10, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * 7) I vote for Mon Calamari for all the reasons above.  Otherwise it would be the same as having a wiki article on Japan redirect to Nippon. Kebis
 * 8) support.– 06:00, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * 9) Mon Calamari is Basic. Dac is local. -- Riffsyphon1024 06:03, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * 10) Support. (But ironically, I think Skye, Mimban, and Bastion should go by those names as well!  Oh well, next time. :P) Dan 13:37, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * 11) support for the reasons above. Jedi Dude 13:54, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Leave at Dac, but have all in-article links show Mon Calamari

 * 1) Support. The right of naming belongs to the first discoverers, in this cae, the Mon Cal and the Quarren. Thanos6 02:45, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) For.  I support this side.  Go with the native name, like with Mitth'raw'nuruodo/Thrawn. -Finlayson 04:20, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) Darth Kevinmhk 05:15, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) MyNz 05:24, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * 5) QuentinGeorge 06:13, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * 6) Minimalist vote. This is what needs to be done, the title of the page is of less importance. Charlii 08:39, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * 7) Support. If the planet is called Dac by the natives, the planet is Dac. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 15:13, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Comments

 * Not being exposed to a lot of the newer EU material, I honestly thought when I started contributing here that Lucasfilm was calling it Dac now, in a process similar to the resizing of the Executor and the Death Star II. Since this does not appear to be the case, an additional reason to move the planet's name to Mon Calamari would be to avoid giving other new users the wrong impression. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 02:47, 14 August 2006 (UTC)