Talk:Even Piell/Legends

Death
whoa! When did Grievous kill Piell
 * No published material has yet revealed Piell's fate. I believe some fans assumed Piell died on Boz Pity in Obsession, and ran with the idea - Kwenn

Since when did Dave Filoni have the permission to kill of Even Piell?? I'm fuming! I guess that means that a large chunk of Piell's story should now be deleted...bringing back Eeth Koth, fair enough, we didn't really see him die...but killing off someone like him, when he's already been killed off on Coruscant? Not looking forward to seeing people slowly take things off his profile :/ JimminyTi 03:40, March 12, 2011 (UTC) As wriiten on in the ep guide: •The Expanded Universe of Star Wars novels originally had Even Piell survive the Clone Wars only to be killed while as a fugitive in the early days of the Empire. Piell's death in the Citadel Mission is the character's true fate.
 * In light of the large chunk of canon that TCW is attempting to deem non-canon, the earlier material must take precedence, which means that in this case, we cannot adhere to the newer TCW material by stating that Piell died&mdash;he appears in Jedi Twilight, which correctly portrays his death in 19 BBY. It's disappointing that so big a part of continuity was so blatantly ignored in "Citadel Rescue," but that's the unfortunate case here.  CC7567  (talk) 03:42, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sure Leland Chee will do something about this in the near future. Somehow, it will be "explained," or "retconned." Until then, I agree with CC7567 in that we cannot adhere to this bogus attempt to destroy canon. &mdash; Axinal  Convocation Chamber 03:46, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * But isn't T-canon higher than C-canon? So what happened on TCW would be more 'correct', wouldn't it? Korsa3 03:58, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Technically, yes. But this wouldn't be the first time T-canon has contradicted C-canon. Leland Chee has retconned a number of the inconsistencies so far, which is why I'm thinking he'll provide a somewhat reasonable explanation for this as well.&mdash; Axinal  Convocation Chamber 04:00, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hopefully it will be explained, I cannot believe its canon, I just don't understand the justification, if any, in killing him off, it just didn't need to happen. You'd think someone like Filoni would understand that in this huge star wars universe, he can't just change things to fit this one series, you have to respect already established canon. (I realise that its not just Filoni, but I'd rather blame him) JimminyTi 04:11, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * According to the Star Wars OS in the "secrets revealed" section of the episode guide, this is in fact Piell's true fact.

I think we can safely say this is his canon death, at least for now. MasterJedi15
 * Please, let's have patience. A conflict of this scale cannot be cleared up by a few lines from an episode guide that provides no alternative solution to the Jedi Twilight info. I do understand that the episode guides are canonical, but let's wait and see if this issue can be cleared up in a better way than outright deleting all of the Jedi Twilight information.  CC7567  (talk) 05:57, March 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Fair enough, but we should at least make a mention of the death in the article, if not in the main body, at the very least in the "Behind the Scenes" section. Canon or not at this point, it did happen and should be mentioned in the article somewhere. If it is later confirmed we can ammend the article as such.
 * The information will be added when the article is updated.  CC7567  (talk) 06:06, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Is that a hint for me to do it? :p MasterJedi15

Copyvio...almost
A bunch of copy in here sounds far too much like the DB entry. --SparqMan 07:46, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I think it's different enough. For comparison sake, here's the DB entry:
 * The humorless and fierce Piell hails from Lannik, a planet long plagued by violence. Corellian diplomats attempted to help the struggling world, but were ambushed by Red Iaro terrorists in the heart of the Lannik High Court. Even Piell came to their rescue, and single-handedly defeated seven attackers, though he lost his left eye in the melee. The daughter of the diplomats, the Jedi Adi Gallia, had long felt indebted to Piell. Piell carried his scar as a badge of pride and symbol of his honor, bravery and persistence. QuentinGeorge 07:50, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Six or seven/qoute or article
In the article, it says that he killed seven intruders when he got his scar and that one escaped. In his quotation at the topp, he says that he fougt eight intruders and killed six, while the sventh walked out of there. Did he say it wrong or is it a typing error? Jacce 09:23, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Master of the seven lightsaber forms
Could anyone please confirm whether Jedi Twilight actually mentions him to be a master of all the seven lightsaber forms? The current article states this to be true. grobiano I assume by all seven forms you mean, all six lightsaber forms? Unless we're keeping Juyo and Vaapad completely separate, it perhaps should be noted that he practiced all seven, excluding Vaapad. Considering only three jedi are known to have used Vaapad, it should be cleared up--82.45.40.125 21:07, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Page 6 states that he used to practice the seven lightsabre forms before Order 66, but that doesn't necessarily make him a master of them. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 14:49, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your quick reply! Well, if that's the only source, stating he mastered all the forms is kind of stretching things too much. Someone better at this than me should change it. grobiano
 * Fixed. :-) -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 20:31, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Multiple Lightsabers
I have seen him with red, blue, green, and i think i even saw an image of him with a yellow/orange one. did he use multiple lightsabers over the years or what?66.42.173.161 14:44, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

The Clone Wars Appearance
Yes, I've heard that he is going to appear sometime in Season 3, but you can't list that as an appearance. You need a specific episode. No where else on Wookieepedia is such an unspecified appearance listed. Stop trying to jump the gun, just wait for him to make his appearance.68.40.151.199 05:30, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Pointless information
I changed a sentence in the section about the battle of Geonosis which states "many of Piell's peers on the Jedi Council, including Coleman Trebor, perished", or something like that. Its been changed back...why is this? Coleman Trebor is the ONLY council member who dies in during the battle of Geonosis, so that sentance is false. JimminyTi 23:53, March 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * That's a good point. It used to be canon that Eeth Koth died, but these days, I think it would probably be fair to change "peers on the Jedi Council" to "fellow Jedi" or something. Menkooroo 00:24, March 2, 2011 (UTC)