Wookieepedia:Inquisitorius/Log/2007 July 07

[17:02]		Shall we wait awhile? I expect Ataru at least to show up [17:03]		Yeah, wait until we get more. [17:03]		Like Jaina. [17:04]		ah i c [17:04]		so what's the command to invite someone else? [17:07]		/invite name channel [17:08]		Jaina says she's blocked [17:10]		Havac, do you know how to grant access to this channel? [17:12]		I think she's using the client. [17:13]		You can't access this on that. [17:14]		She's got to use Chatzilla or one of the other dedicated clients. [17:14]	-->|	Ataru (n=d064e8fa@wikia/Ataru) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [17:14]		woohoo [17:14]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-inquisitorius +o Ataru by Havac [17:14]		Ha ha ha look at attendance :-P [17:15]		Hey, if Jaina gets in, we're in business :D [17:15]		You know, since DST kicked in, these meetings were usually an hour later. [17:15]		Meh [17:15]	<Ataru>	That's probably thrown everyone off. [17:15]	<Havac>	Should we be inviting Greyman? [17:15]	<Ataru>	I dunno. Ask Gonk. [17:15]	<Gonk>	He accepted the offer [17:15]	<Gonk>	so probably [17:15]	<Ataru>	There's only going to be three of you here! [17:15]	<Ataru>	Ha ha ha ha ha [17:16]	<Gonk>	Somewhat expected :) [17:16]	-->|	Greyman (n=chatzill@d235-142-58.home1.cgocable.net) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [17:17]	<Gonk>	ok Mr. Grey, our vote will be brief :) [17:17]	<Ataru>	Where is Jaina? [17:17]	<Gonk>	On her way [17:17]	<Gonk>	She was using the client, we think [17:17]	<Ataru>	I don't have much time. [17:18]	<Ataru>	Do we need to op Greyman? [17:18]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-inquisitorius +o Greyman by Havac [17:18]	<Gonk>	well, Havac, do you support Greyman as our 13th inq? [17:18]	<Havac>	Go for it. [17:18]	<Gonk>	*12th [17:18]	<Gonk>	then unless Jaina AND Xwing328 object, I think we can consider it a done deal [17:19]	<Ataru>	Where is Xwing328? [17:19]	<Ataru>	And that's hardly a plurality ;-) [17:19]	<Gonk>	he said he'd be here, but maybe not for the whole time [17:20]	<Gonk>	The way I figure it, the absentee Inqs can have another meeting if they decide this one was a total clusterfuck :) [17:20]	<Ataru>	Dangit. GT left comments. [17:20]	<Gonk>	So I saw [17:20]	<Havac>	And? [17:20]	<Greyman>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Wookieepedia:Inq/Meeting_Eight&t=20070707145443#Votes.2FThoughts.2FIdeas_from_Absentees [17:20]	<Ataru>	It means he's here in spirit. [17:21]	<Gonk>	On GT's point about dealing w/obviously unready noms: I say delete, but notify nominator on their user talk page. [17:21]	<Gonk>	Cut down on the clutter. [17:21]	<Ataru>	There's already precedent for removing noms. [17:21]	<Ataru>	We did it before. [17:21]	<Gonk>	yeah [17:22]	<Havac>	Get 'em. [17:22]	<Greyman>	I agree [17:22]	* Ataru	sits quietly. [17:22]	<Gonk>	Ataru, what are your Terms and Conditions again? about becoming an Inq again? [17:23]	<Ataru>	Ah yes. [17:24]	<Gonk>	(btw, Havac, are you logging? I'm not sure I am able to) [17:24]	|<--	Havac has left irc.freenode.net (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [17:24]	<Gonk>	eek [17:24]	<Ataru>	2) I'd really only like this to be until the end of summer, say when Fourdot and Cull are back. [17:24]	|<--	Ataru has left irc.freenode.net ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") [17:24]	<Greyman>	wtf [17:24]	<Gonk>	Greyman, you still here? [17:25]	<Greyman>	sure am [17:25]	<Gonk>	ok. [17:25]	-->|	Havac (n=Havac@dpc6745249230.direcpc.com) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [17:25]	<Gonk>	It's an IRC fart then. GREAT TIMING [17:25]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-inquisitorius +o Havac by ChanServ [17:25]	<Gonk>	wb havac :) [17:25]	<Gonk>	You missed Ataru saying "[17:24] <Ataru> 2) I'd really only like this to be until the end of summer, say when Fourdot and Cull are back." [17:25]	<Gonk>	we didn't get #1 :/ [17:26]	<Greyman>	StarNeptune said earlier that she was interested in being an Inq again [17:26]	-->|	Ataru (n=d064e8fa@wikia/Ataru) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [17:26]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-inquisitorius +o Ataru by Greyman [17:26]	<Gonk>	Really? [17:26]	<Greyman>	yup [17:26]	<Greyman>	in the other channel [17:26]	<Greyman>	should she be invited? [17:26]	<Gonk>	musta missed that. [17:26]	<Gonk>	Just did. [17:27]	<Greyman>	good [17:27]	<Ataru>	bloody heck [17:27]	<Ataru>	This thing is lagging miserably. [17:27]	<Ataru>	Terms and Conditions: [17:27]	<Havac>	OK, Terms again, please? [17:27]	<Gonk>	We only got Criterion 2 [17:27]	<Ataru>	1) I don't vote on anything that I don't feel like voting on. [17:27]	<Havac>	I'm down with that. [17:27]	<Gonk>	I like #1 being universal to all Inqs [17:27]	<Ataru>	2) My appointment is preferably temporary until Fourdot and Cull and some others are back. [17:27]	<Havac>	Yeah. [17:27]	<Greyman>	me2 [17:27]	<Gonk>	We can deal with that [17:28]	<Havac>	And Ataru, you can be an Inq forever. You don't have to vote all the time. [17:28]	<Ataru>	3) I'm not doing a whole lot. [17:28]	<Gonk>	Ataru seems to care more about FAs than just about anybody, so... :) [17:28]	<Havac>	If you think Fourdot and Cull will be able to handle it, you leave it be, but there's no need to jump in and out. [17:29]	<Havac>	Just stay in with varying levels of involvement. [17:29]	<Ataru>	It just took a lot of time in April and May when I could have been doing other things. [17:29]	<Ataru>	And people need to stop asking me to read every bloody nom. [17:29]	<Gonk>	Speaking of which [17:29]	<Havac>	Then tell them you won't. [17:29]	<Ataru>	Havac and Greyman are the only ones that have that type of privilege. [17:29]	<Havac>	You're under no obligation. [17:29]	-->|	Jaina (n=4571a92f@host112.toad-host.com) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [17:29]	<Gonk>	I propose a note on the Inq page to encourage people not to harrass Inqs :) [17:29]	<Ataru>	That's because I *enjoy* reading their writing. [17:29]	<Gonk>	Heyyy!! [17:29]	<Ataru>	Hey. [17:29]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-inquisitorius +o Jaina by Greyman [17:29]	<Ataru>	If we had more active Inqs, they wouldn't have to harass you. [17:30]	<Gonk>	Jaina, do you object to Greyman being an Inq? [17:30]	<Jaina>	No [17:30]	<Havac>	I work ten hours a day and two hours of free time a night. [17:30]	<Gonk>	cool [17:30]	<Havac>	I've got bigger priorities this summer. [17:30]	<Havac>	So don't get on me to do much Inqing. [17:30]	<Greyman>	deal [17:30]	<Ataru>	Fair enough. [17:30]	<Gonk>	ok, objections to reinstating Ataru? [17:31]	<Ataru>	Me! [17:31]	<Ataru>	Me ! [17:31]	<Ataru>	I object! [17:31]	<Ataru>	:-P [17:31]	<Havac>	You're not an Inq yet, you can't vote. :P [17:31]	<Ataru>	Dangit. [17:31]	<Greyman>	lol [17:31]	<Gonk>	Awww snap! [17:31]	<Ataru>	Too bad. [17:31]	<Jaina>	lol [17:31]	<Ataru>	GT had objections? Hopefully? [17:31]	<Gonk>	ok, Ataru's back in I guess [17:31]	<Havac>	OK, Ataru is in. [17:32]	<Gonk>	Next up... GT sez: "I also noted that neither Galactic Republic Chancery election, 32 BBY nor Stark Hyperspace War are sourced, yet are currently FAs. I'm not sure how this was missed the first time through, but they should be stripped of their status until sourced." [17:32]	<Gonk>	I have a question here [17:32]	<Ataru>	Those aren't the worst. [17:32]	<Ataru>	LUMIYA [17:32]	<Havac>	I WAS RIGHT!!!!!!!! [17:32]	<Greyman>	Stark Hyperspace War is on my list of things to do, I'll handle it [17:32]	<Ataru>	How Lumiya is still an FA blows my mind. [17:32]	<Havac>	I AM ALWAYS RIGHT!!!! [17:32]	<Gonk>	Is it a hard-and-fast rule that, if not sourced, it doesn't get to be an FA? [17:32]	<Havac>	SOURCE OR DIE!!!!!!! [17:32]	<Ataru>	No. [17:32]	=-=	Culator|Away is now known as Darth_Culator [17:32]	<Gonk>	Culator! [17:32]	<Ataru>	If you look at all the meeting logs, several people said sourcing was the not the entire issue [17:32]	<Ataru>	Culator has issues with me! [17:32]	<Ataru>	Yes! [17:33]	<Gonk>	that's what I thought. [17:33]	<Havac>	It has to be sourced. [17:33]	<Havac>	It's a requirement, it is a hard-and-fast rule. [17:33]	<Darth_Culator>	It's a rule that if it isn't sourced it doesn't get to *become* an FA, but we never said it couldn't be grandfathered if that was the only issue. [17:33]	<Ataru>	Gonk: But woe to any new nom that tries to get by without sourcing. Unless it's a single-source. [17:33]	<Havac>	It's just that some Inq felt they could ignore that rule. [17:33]	<Ataru>	Darth_Culator: You object to my returning to the Inq, right? ;-) [17:33]	<Darth_Culator>	Why would I? [17:33]	<Havac>	:) [17:34]	<Ataru>	Ummm .. .*waves hand* because you do [17:34]	<Havac>	Ataru has been drafted. [17:34]	<Ataru>	Fine. [17:34]	<Gonk>	ok, revoke FA status (for now) from Chancery Election and Stark Hyperspace War: yes or no? [17:34]	<Havac>	Yes. [17:34]	<Havac>	SOURCE OR DIE. [17:34]	<Ataru>	Do we have 7 votes? [17:34]	<Greyman>	Yes [17:34]	<Ataru>	In order to pull FA status, we have to have 7 here. [17:34]	<Ataru>	' [17:34]	<Havac>	I am the quorum. [17:34]	-->|	StarNeptune (i=no@CPE001095973bce-CM001095173bce.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [17:34]	<Ataru>	We have 7 [17:34]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-inquisitorius +o StarNeptune by Greyman [17:34]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-inquisitorius +o StarNeptune by Darth_Culator [17:34]	<Gonk>	ok, revoke FA status (for now) from Chancery Election and Stark Hyperspace War: yes or no? [17:35]	<Ataru>	One at a time. [17:35]	<Greyman>	I agree [17:35]	<Havac>	SOURCE OR DIE> [17:35]	<Ataru>	I say put them on probation [17:35]	<Gonk>	Chancery? [17:35]	<Ataru>	Probation, yes. [17:35]	<Ataru>	Two weeks, per standard. [17:35]	<Ataru>	(remove) [17:35]	<Greyman>	Per Ataru [17:35]	<Darth_Culator>	Agreed. [17:35]	<Havac>	Sourcing probabtion. [17:35]	<Darth_Culator>	2 weeks, then broken star. [17:35]	<Ataru>	StarNeptune? Jaina? [17:35]	<Havac>	If they're not sourced in two weeks, remove. [17:35]	<Ataru>	Gonk? [17:35]	<Jaina>	Per Havac [17:36]	<Gonk>	What's the precedent for probation? [17:36]	<Ataru>	That's six. . . [17:36]	<Ataru>	StarNeptune? [17:36]	<StarNeptune>	sec [17:36]	<Havac>	Probation is the precedent. [17:36]	<Havac>	It's how it's always been done. [17:36]	<StarNeptune>	probation [17:36]	<Ataru>	And we had GT's absentee votes also. [17:36]	<Gonk>	True [17:36]	<Gonk>	Probation it is then [17:36]	<Ataru>	That's 8- place the probation template on them. [17:36]	<Gonk>	Now what about Lumiya? [17:36]	<Ataru>	KILL [17:36]	<Greyman>	de-FA...it's a mes [17:36]	<Havac>	A vote "remove" always, actually, puts it on probation for two weeks. [17:36]	<Greyman>	s [17:36]	<Gonk>	Havac: ah, I see [17:37]	<Havac>	DEATH. [17:37]	<Ataru>	Remove. [17:37]	<Ataru>	CHOP HER HEAD OFF [17:37]	<Greyman>	that's three [17:37]	<Havac>	Lumiya, we *will* let you fall. [17:37]	<StarNeptune>	remove [17:37]	<Jaina>	Remove [17:37]	<Gonk>	Remove. lol @ Havac [17:38]	<Greyman>	heh [17:38]	<Ataru>	Darth_Culator? [17:38]	<Ataru>	I have six. . . [17:39]	<Gonk>	Woops, that wasn't GT, it was Eyrez who mentioned Chancery and Stark. Well, whatever. Vote still counts [17:39]	<Ataru>	Him too. [17:39]	<Darth_Culator>	Per Havac and Ataru. KILL! [17:39]	<Ataru>	Excellent. [17:39]	<Greyman>	Indeed [17:39]	<Ataru>	Article is placed on probation *smacks gavel* [17:39]	<Ataru>	Next order of business. [17:39]	<Gonk>	GT did say this: [17:39]	<Gonk>	Getting rid of the double voting is a good idea too. Having two sets of votes is quite redundant so I'd like to see the main FA vote reorganized like the Inq one is currently. Each nom should get its own page which contains both the Inq and normal votes. It's less for us to have to remember (and I have noticed a few times when Inqs have only voted in one place), it's less to archive since we currently archive both votes on separate pages, and it makes the whole Inq process a little more obvious to everybody else. Ataru's idea of distinguishing Inqs from the others sounds good to me but I wouldn't mind two separate votes on the one page either. [17:39]	<Gonk>	and Ataru thinks: [17:39]	<Gonk>	[11:34] <Ataru> Well, to distinguish the Inquistor's signatures, on the voting page you could make a small template to go by each Inq's sig. [11:35] <Ataru> That way, anyone counting would know how many Inq votes it had [11:35] <Ataru> And use the vote totals at the top like we do for RFAs [11:35] <Ataru> ===Wes Janson=== [11:35] <Ataru> (3 Inqs/2 Users/5 total) [11:35] <Ataru> Etc. [11:35] <Gonk> Just for the voting page. Yeah, I could see that. [11:35] <Ataru> And the Inq sig would look like this: ~ [11:35] * Gonk jots down your idea [11:36] <Ataru> The template would be called or [17:39]	<Ataru>	OK. [17:40]	<Gonk>	Eyrez votes no on #1, which means no on #2. I vote yes on both. [17:40]	<Ataru>	I, obviously, like this idea. [17:41]	<StarNeptune>	The sperate voting thing is confusing [17:41]	<Gonk>	hey we didn't vote on StarNeptune being an Inq again :D ... I trust no one objects? [17:41]	<Havac>	You'd have to use the Inq template on INQ objections too, to mark them. [17:41]	<Ataru>	No objections. [17:41]	<Ataru>	Havac: Not necessarily. [17:42]	<Ataru>	All objections have the same weight, right? [17:42]	<Havac>	Nothing goes through with an Inq objection. [17:42]	<Havac>	Those are the rules. [17:42]	<Ataru>	Nothing goes through with a regular objection [17:42]	<Ataru>	Those are the rules [17:42]	<Ataru>	No? [17:42]	<Gonk>	You mean a regular non-overridden objection, right? [17:42]	<Havac>	True. My main problem is with Inq objections on the Inq pages being ignored. [17:43]	<Havac>	When there's no main-page objection. [17:43]	<Gonk>	That might be remedied a bit by GT's plan too. [17:43]	<Greyman>	Most nominee's done remember to check the Inq page [17:43]	<Ataru>	2 separate votes on the FAN page? Fine with me, and it keeps a place to override objections. [17:44]	<Greyman>	*don't [17:44]	<Gonk>	so, 2 seperate votes on 1 page means no little templatey-dealies required, right? [17:44]	<Ataru>	Right- we wouldn't need that. [17:44]	<Gonk>	ok [17:44]	<Gonk>	I like that. [17:44]	<Ataru>	Now the noms would look like this: [17:44]	<Ataru>	===Wes Janson=== [17:44]	<Ataru>	(3 Inqs/5 Users/8 total) [17:44]	<Ataru>	”'Support”' [17:44]	<Ataru>	”'Oppose”' [17:44]	<Ataru>	”'Comments”' [17:45]	<Ataru>	”'Inquisitorius”' [17:45]	<Ataru> [17:45]	<Ataru>	Right? [17:45]	<Greyman>	Would the Inq page cease to exist, then? [17:45]	<Gonk>	er... what would go under Inquisitorius? just all our votes? [17:45]	<Ataru>	Yeah. [17:45]	<Ataru>	Gonk: Our votes and comments. [17:45]	<Ataru>	Or we could encode it as ====Inquisitorius==== [17:45]	<Ataru>	and have subheadings under that. [17:45]	<Greyman>	Sounds good, it's more organized and less page switching [17:46]	<Ataru>	That's a bit much, methinks. [17:46]	<Gonk>	The more combined, the better, I think [17:46]	<Ataru>	Okay, so the first way. [17:46]	<Ataru>	? [17:46]	<Gonk>	Works for me [17:46]	<Greyman>	Me too [17:46]	<Ataru>	Any objections? Opinions? [17:46]	<Jaina>	Nope [17:46]	<Ataru>	Havac, Culator, Star .. . [17:47]	<Havac>	I like the first way better. [17:47]	<Ataru>	Okay. [17:47]	<Ataru>	I like the first way too. [17:47]	<Havac>	The inq section on the page is too disorganized. [17:47]	<Ataru>	Culator and Star, you want to weigh in? Consensus seems to be to add a ””Inquisitorius”' section to each Nom [17:47]	<Darth_Culator>	Works for me. [17:47]	<Ataru>	We still need the WP:INQ page, but not all the little nom pages. [17:48]	<Ataru>	And keep all the forums for old FAs that we've reviewed. [17:48]	<Ataru>	Gonk: I think we have consensus. [17:48]	<Greyman>	yup [17:48]	<Gonk>	ok [17:48]	<Gonk>	I think I can do that [17:48]	<Havac>	No, no, no Inq section. [17:48]	<Havac>	In votes and a template. [17:48]	<Gonk>	Huh? [17:48]	<Ataru>	Oh. [17:48]	<StarNeptune>	An Inq section would be fine with me [17:48]	<Havac>	The inq section sucks. [17:49]	<Havac>	It's far too disorganized. [17:49]	<Havac>	Keep the votes for all together and the objections all together. [17:49]	<Gonk>	So, the FA page would look just like it does now, but with Inq votes templated and counted separately at the top? [17:49]	<Havac>	Yes, templated. [17:49]	<Ataru>	I'm fine with either solution. [17:49]	<Gonk>	Actually that is better. It will facilitate discussion more cleanly. [17:49]	<Greyman>	Either way works, organization is good :D [17:50]	<Ataru>	Jaina? Darth_Culator? [17:50]	<Ataru>	StarNeptune? [17:50]	<Ataru>	Comments? [17:50]	<StarNeptune>	Sounds okay to me [17:50]	<Ataru>	And woe be to any non-Inq who uses that template in their sig. v_v [17:50]	<Jaina>	Either way works fine with me [17:51]	<Ataru>	Sounds like we're going with making a little template then. [17:51]	* Ataru	has about three minutes remaining [17:51]	<Gonk>	Now what will it look like? :) another matter for another time. I'll start a thread off WP:INQ [17:51]	<Gonk>	So we have a consensus for GT's FA/Inq Page Combo Idea + Ataru's Template idea + Havac's stipulation ? [17:51]	<Greyman>	It appears that way [17:52]	<Ataru>	Right. [17:52]	<Gonk>	OK, additional new Inqs [17:52]	<Gonk>	Solus? [17:52]	<Ataru>	Solus has been discussed before. [17:52]	<Gonk>	some time ago IIRC. [17:52]	<Greyman>	what was his response? No, I take it? [17:52]	<Ataru>	To be honest, he's good at fixing things, but he's not on that much and he's not got the greatest eye for picking up on stuff, IMHO [17:52]	<Gonk>	Is that a no vote? [17:52]	<Ataru>	We never asked him. [17:53]	<Gonk>	true [17:53]	<Havac>	I voted no before and vote no again. [17:53]	<Ataru>	I believe the term used was "a better workhorse than a jockey" [17:53]	<Gonk>	ok [17:53]	<Gonk>	Silly Dan seems to have a presence in FA land. Has he been mentioned before? [17:53]	<Ataru>	Nothing against him personally. [17:53]	<Ataru>	I'm not sure. You can ask him. [17:53]	<Havac>	I like Dan. I'm not sure he'd take it. [17:53]	<Ataru>	Per Havac. [17:53]	<Havac>	Didn't he vote against the Inq? [17:53]	<Ataru>	One more less evil inq. :-P [17:54]	<Ataru>	Havac: I don't recall. . . [17:54]	<Gonk>	I think the anti-Inq sentiment has tapered off. [17:54]	<Havac>	Doesn't mean he would want to join it. [17:54]	<Ataru>	I'm asking Dan to log into IRC on his talk page. [17:54]	<Havac>	I'd say go ahead and ask. [17:54]	<Havac>	If he wants in, he can get in. [17:54]	<Greyman>	me2 [17:54]	<Gonk>	No objections to SillyDan (IF he says yes)? [17:55]	<Ataru>	None from me. [17:55]	<Havac>	I'm wary, though, of Inqs who don't support the Inq weakening the requirements by not following them. [17:55]	<Havac>	Like Inqs who vote to keep unsourced articles. :| [17:55]	<Ataru>	I have to go now. [17:55]	<Gonk>	ok Ataru, thanks for coming [17:55]	<Greyman>	See ya Ataru [17:55]	<--|	Ataru has left #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [17:55]	<Gonk>	I share your concern Havac, but my impression of Dan is that if he still dislikes the Inq or its requirements, he'll just say no [17:56]	<Havac>	Yeah. [17:56]	<Greyman>	True [17:56]	<Havac>	But I worry about getting in and then being lax. [17:56]	<Havac>	Not consciously, but just, "Oh, we don't really need to bother about that one thing." [17:56]	<Gonk>	Well, if we can strike objections... :) [17:56]	<Greyman>	any other names? [17:56]	<Gonk>	One I thought of, but am not sure of: [17:56]	<Gonk>	Chack Jadson [17:56]	<Havac>	I went through all our top 50 contributors once. [17:57]	<Havac>	Not sure what names came out of that. [17:57]	<Havac>	Not Chack. [17:57]	<Gonk>	jSarek, probably ... didn't he turn it down? [17:57]	<Havac>	Yeah, jSarek. [17:57]	<Havac>	He declined, I think. [17:57]	<Havac>	Nowis too. [17:57]	<Greyman>	He declined [17:57]	<Gonk>	Chack may not be sufficiently objective, at least for now [17:57]	<Greyman>	said last night that he didn't want it [17:58]	<Gonk>	oh yeah, Goodwood [17:58]	<Gonk>	He said he would consider it. I gave him no guarantees. [17:58]	<Havac>	I don't trust Chack's judgement as implicitly as I would have to to vote for him. [17:58]	<Greyman>	Per Goodwood: I haven't really seen anything of his other than that most recent nom, and what I've seen on IRC. [17:58]	<Havac>	And Goodwood gets my veto. [17:59]	<Gonk>	Jaina? StarNeptune? Darth_Culator? Reactions to Chack Jadson, Silly Dan, or Goodwood? [17:59]	<Havac>	Producing one or two decent noms isn't enough to get you on the Inq. [17:59]	<Gonk>	That's all I've got then :) [18:00]	<Gonk>	We have one more item AFAIK [18:00]	<Greyman>	annnnd...GO [18:01]	<Havac>	What about Quentin? [18:01]	<Darth_Culator>	Sorry, was distracted. Chack no, SillyDan yes, Goodwood yes, Quentin OK if he agrees but I don't know if he'll agree. [18:01]	<Havac>	Not sure I'd vote for him, but that's one more name that might be good. [18:02]	<Jaina>	No to Chack, Dan and Goodwood [18:02]	<Havac>	Yes to Dan. [18:02]	<Havac>	No to Chack and Goodwood. [18:02]	<Greyman>	Per Havac [18:02]	<Jaina>	Yes to Quentin [18:02]	<Gonk>	We need zero objections to instate a new Inq, right? [18:02]	<Greyman>	And, Yes to Quentin [18:03]	<StarNeptune>	Sorry, I was busy...Yes, to dan, I don;t know the othes well enough to comment [18:03]	<Havac>	No to Quentin, too, I guess. [18:03]	<Gonk>	I have to say no to all but Dan [18:03]	<Havac>	Oh, that's right. One name that came up before. McEwok. [18:03]	<Gonk>	Wasn't he asked? [18:03]	<Havac>	He was narrowly voted down. [18:04]	<Greyman>	I don't know his writing well enough to vote either way [18:04]	<Gonk>	Has McEwok been involved with FAs much? [18:04]	<Greyman>	I haven't seen anything since I've started getting involved [18:04]	<Havac>	Not really. [18:05]	<Havac>	Let's just be organized about this, though. [18:05]	<Havac>	Vote on Chack: [18:05]	<Gonk>	No [18:05]	<Havac>	No. [18:05]	<Jaina>	No [18:05]	<Darth_Culator>	No. [18:05]	<Greyman>	No [18:05]	<Havac>	OK, he's out. [18:05]	<Gonk>	and Star abstains [18:05]	<Havac>	Vote on Dan. [18:06]	<Gonk>	Yes [18:06]	<Havac>	Yes. [18:06]	<Darth_Culator>	Yes. [18:06]	<Greyman>	Yes [18:06]	<Gonk>	Jaina voted no [18:06]	<Havac>	She can always reconsider. [18:07]	<Gonk>	Says Havac, nudging subtly [18:07]	<Havac>	Hey, this is the vote. [18:07]	<Gonk>	:) [18:07]	<Havac>	4 yes, two not answering. [18:07]	<Jaina>	For now, yes [18:08]	<Havac>	See? [18:08]	<Gonk>	and Star voted yes [18:08]	<Havac>	:P [18:08]	<Gonk>	next? [18:08]	<Jaina>	Yes [18:08]	<Havac>	OK, we'll say yes. [18:08]	<Havac>	Vote on Goodwood: [18:08]	<Greyman>	Ok, Goodwood [18:08]	<Havac>	No. [18:08]	<Jaina>	No [18:09]	<Gonk>	No for now [18:09]	<Greyman>	No for now, as well [18:09]	<Darth_Culator>	Yes, but it won't matter. [18:09]	<Havac>	Majority says no. [18:09]	<Havac>	Vote on Quentin: [18:09]	<Jaina>	Yes [18:09]	<Gonk>	No [18:09]	<Havac>	I say no, K'Kruhk has me very unconvinced. [18:09]	<Greyman>	Abstain [18:10]	<Darth_Culator>	Yes, but I figure he'll turn it down. [18:10]	<Havac>	Two yes, two no, one abstain. [18:10]	<Gonk>	StarNeptune! we need you to break a tie [18:10]	<Havac>	StarNeptune? [18:10]	<StarNeptune>	yeah, yeah :P [18:10]	<StarNeptune>	What's the issue? [18:11]	<Havac>	Don't we need unanimity anyway? [18:11]	<Gonk>	QuentinGeorge being offered inqship [18:11]	<Gonk>	Havac: as I understand it, yes, but it'd be good to know how many votes for & against anyway [18:11]	<StarNeptune>	I don;t see why not [18:12]	<Havac>	Three yes, two no, one abstain; doesn't pass, but keep him in mind for the future, perhaps. [18:12]	<Gonk>	ok [18:12]	<Havac>	McEwok: [18:12]	<Jaina>	No [18:12]	<Greyman>	No [18:12]	<Havac>	Reluctant no. [18:12]	<Gonk>	No, but let's talk to him about it. See if he wants to get more involved, then vote again later. [18:12]	<Greyman>	sounds good [18:13]	<Gonk>	ok, that seems pretty definitive [18:13]	<Havac>	OK. I've got to go. [18:13]	|<--	Havac has left irc.freenode.net ("I bid you all a Dark Farewell.") [18:13]	<Greyman>	LtNOWIS is on the other channel right now, should we ask him again, just in case? [18:13]	<Gonk>	one last topic [18:13]	<Gonk>	go ahead, but IIRC I just asked him recently [18:13]	<Gonk>	Ataru says this: "Somehow, all the talk pages and articles of stripped FAs never got that memo. Meaning no one changed them. That should be updated." [18:13]	<Gonk>	is this accurate? somebody got a link? [18:14]	<Greyman>	ya, it's accurate...let me find one [18:14]	<StarNeptune>	I know the Jacen Solo one never got updated [18:14]	<Gonk>	huh. I'd have thought Ataru would be all over that. Well, one other Thing to Do then, I guess [18:15]	<Darth_Culator>	When Ataru went to update some of them, he accidentally de-FA'd one that was saved on the revote. So we should check that carefully. [18:15]	<Gonk>	Ahhh. Will you volunteer, Culator? [18:15]	<Greyman>	arg, you can never find what you're looking for when you need it [18:18]	<Gonk>	I'll take your protracted silence as a "meh" :) [18:18]	<Darth_Culator>	Indeed. [18:18]	<Gonk>	So anything else to discuss? [18:19]	<Greyman>	So I'm an Inq? Yay, heh [18:19]	<Gonk>	You are sir. Use it wisely. [18:19]	<Greyman>	Yes, Gonk-sir [18:19]	<Gonk>	Read up on the policies and stuff like that :) [18:20]	<Greyman>	no prob [18:20]	<Gonk>	and welcome back StarNeptune [18:21]	<StarNeptune>	thank you [18:21]	<Gonk>	and apparently this was Meeting Nine, not Meeting Eight *shrug* [18:22]	<Darth_Culator>	Meh. [18:22]	<Darth_Culator>	Meeting eight-and-a-half.