Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations/Argauun


 * ''The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a comprehensive article nomination that was successful. Please do not modify it.

Argauun

 * Nominated by:  Clone Commander Lee  Talk 10:32, November 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Never thought, that I would do a species...

(4 ECs/2 Users/6 Total)
Support
 * 1) &mdash; Axinal  Convocation Chamber 17:30, November 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) -- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 22:00, November 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 22:06, December 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) ~ Savage  BOB sig.png 18:47, December 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 5) Good work, Lee.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg  (Greetings)  15:05, December 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * 6) --Eyrezer 22:25, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Are you sure it is not Aarguun? Also, is Talia Moonseeker described at all? --Eyrezer 08:50, November 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) *Sir, no sir. The only mentions is as follows: Talia Moonseeker, a young Argauun only four months into her Jedi Knighthood, was kneeling beside her fallen former Master, Va'too, head bowed.. That is all about the species in the whole book.  Clone Commander Lee  Talk 13:51, November 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) I think you should email Miller and ask her if this was intentionally a separate species. There's an email function on her website and she responds to most messages promptly.  NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 22:13, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) *This would be possible. However, I do not think it is neccessary. There is no species which is written so similiar that there is an error. You're welcome to do it, my own e-mail system has some problems and I don't know how it works.  Clone Commander Lee  Talk 13:08, November 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * 5) **I think in this case it's absolutely necessary. The difference between this and Aargauun is a single repeated letter. As it stands, even if this wasn't a mistake, the article at least needs a youmay tag. I've sent her an email asking, so we'll probably have this settled shortly. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 00:21, November 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * 6) ***Ah sorry I was mislead by Eyrezer's spelling above. In that case, the check is neccessary and thanks for doing that. Let's see what she says and then we'll discuss the youmay tag.  Clone Commander Lee  Talk 11:20, November 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * 7) ****I totally agree with Naru, and had also emailed her as well asking Leland on the Dark Horse forums. --Eyrezer
 * 8) *****I'll email her again some other time. For now, social group will work. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 22:06, December 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * 9) Bob
 * 10) * The length of Talia Moonseeker's article suggests at least a bit more description on her is warranted. ~ Savage BOB sig.png 23:17, November 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * 11) **About her only two sentences. About her species, there is nothing more said or described, you can believe me.  Clone Commander Lee  Talk 15:24, November 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 12) ***The novel does specify that Argauuns have heads, and that when experiencing grief they hang their head. --Eyrezer 06:03, November 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * 13) ****You can mention something like that? Wow, you can see I do not write species that often. Added and thanks.  Clone Commander Lee  Talk 14:45, November 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * 14) ***** Besides this, you need to give a bit of detail on what Moonraker did in the book. From the lead to her own article, something like this: " Four months after her promotion, Moonseeker and her former Master were sent on a mission to rescue Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi, Padawan Anakin Skywalker, and Senator Padmé Amidala from execution on the planet Geonosis. The rescue mission turned into the opening battle of the Clone Wars, and although Moonseeker survived it, her former Master was killed. Shaken by this loss, she mourned her deceased mentor on the battlefield." In other words, notable members of the species can't just be mentioned; their lives need to be summarized too. ~ Savage BOB sig.png 14:15, November 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * 15) ******Please try it now.  Clone Commander Lee  Talk 18:36, November 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * 16) * OK, one other thing: Do we know this is a species? Does the source say? It could be that this is merely a planetary demonym (like Corellian or Alderaanian), so I just wanted to make sure. If the source is unclear, you should rewrite accordingly and reclassify as an Category:Undefined social groups. ~ Savage BOB sig.png 04:27, November 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 17) **It is not clearly said. However, I think we should wait until Miller gives an answer to Naru. Maybe all get's cleared up then.  Clone Commander Lee  Talk 15:05, November 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 18) *** No reply yet? It's been quite a while, so we may need to change this to an undefined social group. ~ Savage BOB sig.png 16:14, December 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * 19) ****Changed.  Clone Commander Lee  Talk 10:48, December 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 20) * OK, almost there. I did a copy edit, since with an undefined social group, the fact that one member has a head doesn't mean all do. (Imagine saying, for example, that members of the Rebel Alliance all had heads and hung them in shame, when you have hundreds of species represented in the Alliance). I tried to reword things to preserve the head part, in case we later learn that this is a species. But I think you should probably ditch the infobox (since we don't know this is a species). Do you think Template:Organization_infobox would work? ~ Savage BOB sig.png 15:06, December 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 21) **Agreed, done.  Clone Commander Lee  Talk 17:51, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Comments
 * As there are some problems with recieving a clearing answer from Miller, it would be best to remove the nom and see If we get an answer in the future. Any thoughts?  Clone Commander Lee  Talk 10:01, December 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * I would continue the nomination and just go with it being a separate undefined social group for the time-being until you get a reply from the author. Since there has been no reply in some time, I think it would be safe to go with it being a unique group, much like the Davin (stormtrooper) article was likely meant to be Davin Felth, but both have an article.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  02:58, December 15, 2011 (UTC)