User talk:DarthRevan1173

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Test
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I was actually gonna make the unidentified female jedi into a new page and add info to it. Where in help page on editing does it say how to make a new page, because I am not seeing it. User Talk: DarthRevan1173

Picture
You uploaded this File:Darth Bane Clone Wars.jpg, but it's not yet in any article. Could you place it in an article, if that's possible? --Station7 15:31, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

It's now on the Ghosts of Mortis page. --DarthRevan1173 09:46, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

I think the administrators will remove it, unless you say something about this character in the Behind the scenes, otherwise, it will be removed completedly. --Station7 15:51, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

He is already mentioned in behind Behind the scenes along with Revan. Also added a pic of Revan there. --DarthRevan1173 09:57, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Vindican‎
Please stop adding poor quality edits in the Vindican‎ article. The article is currently a good article, which means that it needs to have certain quality standards. If you like to test edit, please use the Jundland Wastes sandbox. Thanks,  JangFett  (Talk) 02:22, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Images
When uploading images, please follow the instructions on Special:Upload. Otherwise your uploads will be deleted. Also, do not falsify sourcing information. Those uploads will instantly be deleted and you will be blocked. Thank you for your cooperation. 1358 (Talk)  02:29, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Dengar
Darth Revan 1173,

I recently updated the article Dengar. I would like to point out I did not write any of the butt comments. I merely wrote that his armor was not Stormtrooper armor, but a combination of snow and stormtrooper armor. You then reverted all of the butt comments, and mine got mixed in. I will replace my edit about his armor in the next 5 minutes unless you purposely also reverted my addition about the armor. Thank you very much.

--Master Tej 18:58, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about that didn't see those just saw the butt comments. I won't revert your addition.

==DarthRevan1173 13:02, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

Talk pages
Thanks for contributing to Wookieepedia! Before posting talk page comments, please familiarize yourself with the disclaimer at the top of talk pages, Talkheader. Talk pages are for discussion relating to changes to the article, not for a discussion about the topic in question. Thank you.  JangFett  (Talk) 16:53, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

Sith Emperor
y do you keep changing my edit Bohleyc 19:23, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

First off sign your comments. Second because it is incorrect. The Emperor was thought to have been destroyed after a seemingly fatal duel with the Knight. In reality, he had possessed a new avatar to replace the one lost on Voss—it was this facade that the Jedi Knight killed—this was confirmed by a holomail message sent by the Emperor's Hand to the new Emperor's Wrath. DarthRevan1173 19:26, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Retcon
His death has been retconned by that TCW episode, yes, but that's not how the tag is used. In the article, his retcon death is already being taken care of via TCWRetcon since it disrupts the timeline.  JangFett  (Talk) 01:10, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Insider 114
Hi, Revan! I see that you have a copy of Star Wars Insider 114. Apparently, the article "Class Wars" mentions the Flesh Raider species in some way. Would you mind checking when you get a chance to tell me what it says about them? I'd really appreciate any information it has, plus what page number(s) it's on. Thanks a ton! ~ Savage  20:50, June 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey, I would love to know what it says too. I might need some of it for my Project Hero and the Flesh Raider uprising. Thanks! Cade   Calrayn  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 20:55, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

On page 28 in Star Wars Insider 114 it says The Consular begins his story as a Padawan trainee at the rebuilt Jedi Temple on Tython. The planet's native population has begged the Jedi for help in defending them against a brutal group of mercenaries known only as the Flesh Raiders. The Jedi Council decided not to intervene, preferring to stay out of local affairs on Tython. Will the Consular follow the will his Masters or strike out on his own against the Flesh Raiders? The article is pages 28-31. DarthRevan1173 21:05, June 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Wait, say what?!? Did it say "he"? Cade   Calrayn  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 21:11, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

The section I typed came straight out the the article word for word. It does refer to the Consular as a male. DarthRevan1173 21:14, June 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Interesting; thanks, Revan! It's obviously very preliminary material, since the Flesh Raiders are not mercenaries in the final story, and the reason for Jedi non-intervention in Kalikori is not because it's "local affairs" but because the Twi'leks of Kalikori are there illegally. Finally, the Consular story has nothing to do with "following the Masters or striking out against the Flesh Raiders alone" or whatever. FOr these reasons, Cade, I wouldn't put any stock in the "he" pronoun -- it's all obviously been superseded by the game itself. ~ Savage BOB sig.png 21:57, June 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Good. Yeah, the Knight's the one who deals with the Flesh Raider uprising. Cade   Calrayn  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg 22:05, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

No prob if there is anything else you need help with let me know and i'll do what i can. DarthRevan1173 22:01, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

Timeline of books
I posted something on the talk page before doing that. Nobody replied. After coming from working on the Timeline of media, it can be hard to readjust to red not meaning unpublished. Was the revision harmful? Consistency is important for professionalism. I will wait one hour for a reply and then revert it. After that, voice your objections on the talk page. I have saved a copy of it's current state. &mdash; Eшσҡ  $їтӈ Lōяƌ  04:06, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

It was not harmful but if your gonna do a major change like that you need to put it to a vote. Most people on here aren't on at this time so you need to wait for them to respond and talk to an admin here and see what they say. DarthRevan1173 04:13, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

With all due respect: Talk to an admin? I come from Wikipedia. We have no admins there. To what degree should I talk to an admin--do I have to talk to one about everything? When should I talk to one. I just need specifics to prevent further problems. And about the waiting thing, I've waited days for people to reply to some of my talk things. I'm beginning to wonder if anybody even reads those. &mdash; Eшσҡ  $їтӈ Lōяƌ  04:19, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

It's 11:22 PM here. Maybe I'm not in my right mind. &mdash; Eшσҡ  $їтӈ Lōяƌ  04:24, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

On major changes like you want to do you need to talk to one. On how long to wait people reply when they can and it's the same time where I am. DarthRevan1173 04:27, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Basically I need to know who to talk to if I'm going to talk to an administrator. On Wikipedia, we have user-run project groups dedicated to maintaining specific areas of the site. Who is basically the Leland Chee of this site? I don't know which administrator I should talk to. I'm willing to cooperate with people, but I need input. I think it's ridiculous to wait for days without reply and then wonder if you should do something or not. If you can help me, great! I appreciate it. &mdash; Eшσҡ  $їтӈ Lōяƌ  04:31, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

I would say User:JangFett he's the administrator I have had to deal with the most. I would say leave him a message on his talk page and he should get back to you withing two days if not sooner. DarthRevan1173 04:37, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

My bad User:JangFett isn't an admin, but he may be able to help you. Administrators there is a list of administrators here you can talk to. DarthRevan1173 04:40, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. You're the first user I've had a productive discussion with. I'm going to temporarily revert the changes so I can copy my source. That was kind of a pain to do. I want to be able to just do it if I get a green light on it. &mdash; Eшσҡ  $їтӈ Lōяƌ  04:42, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Allright no prob I always help a fellow wookieepedian when I can. DarthRevan1173 04:45, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Guess I didn't have to completely undo it. Cool. I guess I just went ahead and did it because I didn't see how it hurt anything. I saw all gain and no loss. I figured the only resistance might come from people who were too used to the old color code. Well since you're in the same timezone, goodnight. &mdash; Eшσҡ  $їтӈ Lōяƌ  04:50, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Many would oppose because they were used to it. Some would oppose since it actually helps identify the differences. Have a good night. DarthRevan1173 04:56, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Edit-warring
Stop edit-warring on The Clone Wars: Season Five‎‎ and solve the problem on the talk page. Thank you. 1358 (Talk)  17:44, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Lightsabers
Please do not create articles for every character's lightsaber. Unless there is something truly notable about the saber, like multiple owners, special powers, or unique history, lightsabers belong in the power and abilities section of articles. There are numerous TC's that express this: Votes for deletion/The Dark Woman's Lightsaber and Trash compactor/Individual lightsaber. Cade  Calrayn   01:56, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

As User:Bella'Mia just said on Satele Shan's lightsaber Unfortunately, articles on individual lightsabers are indeed allowed, and quite the growing list can be found in Category:Personal lightsabers. Plus am in the process of adding info to it. DarthRevan1173 02:00, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Timeline of Books
Look at the description at the top of the article. "It is not for comics or short stories." I did not get rid of the eBooks. Lost Tribe of the Sith, The Hive, Ylesia (e-book)... they're all still there. What I did was remove the short stories. eg: Mist Encounter, Last One Standing, etc. Basically, I summarized the definition of eBook as a short story with an ISBN. That's the simplest definition I can come up with. There was some debate on the talk pages. That's the only definition I could come up with that excluded the short stories that aren't novellas. Right now, I'm doing heavy work on the Timeline of short stories. It's nice because nobody else really bothers to mess with that page, so I can basically do whatever I want without pissing people off.&mdash; Eшσҡ  $їтӈ Lōяƌ  03:42, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

Was just clarifying what all was going on. Not really sure why the included the Dark Empire audio there. Most people prob don't even notice that page. I am following it, but can't argue with what you are doing there. DarthRevan1173 03:52, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

Well, a lot of people don't bother studying the short stories enough to do anything with them. You basically have to find your niche. You find something to do that no one else is doing. Then you don't have to worry about too many people being in the kitchen. Back on Wikipedia, most of my work was done in fern articles. It's something I'm fairly knowledgeable about that most people aren't or don't care about. It was a wide open place that I could just expand. I'd go into parallels between this and Evolution, but I doubt that you'd really be that interested. haha :P &mdash; Eшσҡ  $їтӈ Lōяƌ  04:23, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

My own expertise is mostly in novel and reference books. Wouldn't mind hearing about the parallels. DarthRevan1173 04:31, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

It parallels Evolution because when something has evolved the ability to take advantage of the environment in a new way, a whole new niche opens up. Suppose you have birds that eat nuts. They all have beaks that are perfectly shaped for eating nuts. Then you get a bird that has a mutated beak which allows it to eat insects. Now that bird doesn't have to compete with the other birds for a food source. The mutation becomes an advantage and the bird is able to reproduce more. Pretty soon, a whole new species of insect-eating birds has evolved separate from the nut-eating birds. Like the insect-eating bird, I've developed the ability to work on articles nobody else does. Since there is nobody else working there, I can work freely and become more of a specialist for that area, just like the insect-eating birds eventually evolved into a new species.&mdash; Eшσҡ  $їтӈ Lōяƌ  18:43, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

That's a good comparison and very true. DarthRevan1173 21:07, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

Pall
Hey, just to clarify the difference between Pall and Vader, Vader was redeemed before he died. He turned away from the Sith, killed his master, and died a Jedi. Pall did not&mdash;he died as a Sith Lord with some regrets, was redeemed spiritually thousands of years later, but never became a Jedi once again. The Jedi infobox isn't for light-side characters&mdash;it's for members of the Jedi Order or people who were considered Jedi at the time of their last appearance. Pall died a Sith and was still a Sith at the time of his last appearance. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 03:36, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

True but Yuthura Ban was never seen accepted back to the order, yet she's allowed the infobox. You can't say one can have it and the other can't. DarthRevan1173 03:41, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

Same with Dak Vesser, and Thalia May. They were never fully accepted back into the order and yet they have the infobox. DarthRevan1173 03:45, June 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes she is. In the light side option, which is considered canonical, she returns to Dantooine to resume her Jedi training. We even have a screenshot of her there. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 03:46, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

Revan visits Korriban after the Attack on the Jedi Enclave. It has been said the cannonical visit of the planets is Dantooine, Tatooine, Kashyyyk, Manaan, then Leviathan after the destruction of the Enclave, and Korriban. How can she retrain on Dantooine when the Enclave was destroyed before she was redeemed. DarthRevan1173 03:54, June 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * If you want to make that argument about Ban, feel free, but that doesn't change the facts in Ajunta Pall's case. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 03:55, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

True and I shall do that. DarthRevan1173 03:58, June 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * If I might interject, even if Revan goes to Korriban after the Leviathan encounter, which we on Wookieepedia use as the case due to the order suggested in the strategy guide, the option remains to redeem her, in which she still says that she would return to the Jedi.&mdash; 02:18, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

While that is true, with the enclave destroyed before she is redeemed. That means we never see that she rejoined the Jedi, it's just assumed that she rejoined the Order. DarthRevan1173 (talk) 02:23, July 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeed, on Wookieepedia, unless otherwise confirmed in another source, we always assume 100% light-side. For example, 100% light-side says that Revan allowed Sunry's execution on Manaan. Yet the CSWE says that Revan successfully got Sunry off the hook, which is possible only through choosing a dark-side option or ignoring the Republic's computer systems. But anyway, Ban has not appeared in any source save her trading card and Uthar Wynn's entry in the CSWE, which merely states that she was defeated, not killed outright. And you have to defeat her before redeeming her anyway.&mdash; 02:56, July 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not arguing the fact that she was defeated and redeemed just that before I changed her page it was said that she rejoined the Order even though there is no source proving that she did. Didn't know that she had her own trading card though. DarthRevan1173 (talk) 03:04, July 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * True. Good work, this will be reflected when I get her article to FA. Thanks.&mdash; 03:10, July 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * No prob happy to help wherever I can. DarthRevan1173 (talk) 03:12, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Appearances
Please do not just copy and paste appearances lists from other articles without checking every single source in the list for accuracy first. I found a bunch of entries in the Glove of Darth Vader Appearances which don't feature the item at all. --Borsk Fey'lya  Talk 05:57, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about that I will check every source before I do that again. DarthRevan1173 (talk) 06:01, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

The other series
Hey DarthRevan, since Sansweet and others tend to reveal somewhat contradictory information regarding the Untitled Star Wars animated TV series, could you please source the information where you found out that Luke, Han, and Leia appear in the series? I never heard anything like that in recent news. Thanks,  JangFett  (Talk) 14:58, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Anacondan
Will you please stop changing the page about Anacondan? They do look planarian like. If you don't know what it is, look it up. C0MMANDO414 (talk) 20:24, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Others disagree that it belongs in the article so stop putting it in and sign your comments. DarthRevan1173 (talk) 01:26, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Articles
Hey there!

You mentioned proper sourcing --- 3,642 BBY is actually barely sourced at all; if you check out some of the other year articles here, you can get an idea of how to source a year article (it's surprisingly tricky!).

Is there an article for the battle where the Republic political convoy is attacked? If it's a battle, it seems like there should be an article on it.

A really important thing in articles is context. Instead of just mentioning Shae Viszla's name, the article should indicate who he is --- ie, "the Mandalorian warrior Shae Viszla" or something. Also, is there any context you can give on the attack on the convoy? Menkooroo (talk) 16:48, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

I haven't been able to find an article for the battle on the Republic political envoy. I assume it hasn't been created yet. I do know it was mentioned in The Journal of Master Gnost-Dural (real-life book) which I have yet to aquire. I will see what Sources are needed for the year and add where needed, and work on the context in Shae Vizla's brother, and Master Aurei Eadon. Thank you for the help and your time. DarthRevan1173 (talk) 22:17, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Canderous Quote

 * Thanks for asking before making any changes! As Kasra said, the quote would probably fit best by replacing the one currently being used for the Legacy section. Feel free to make the change at your leisure. JethLordMaster Ying yang copy.jpg (Xia Order) 22:43, July 24, 2012 (UTC)