Talk:Rogue Squadron/Legends

These two pages from SWFA would be excellent additions to this article. The former being a guideline for the squadron history and the latter for a chronological list of pilots: &  --SparqMan 02:40, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Category
Rebel Alliance organizations-->Alliance Military units? & New Republic Defense Force units.--SparqMan 18:45, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Quotation
Adamwankenobi has changed the lead quotation. Which is prefered? "I’m with Rogue Squadron. Impossible is our stock in trade, and success is what we deliver." - Corran Horn vs. "Well, you know the Rogues. All we need is a ship and rock to land it on." - Wedge Antilles --SparqMan 17:55, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I myself like the Wedge Antilles one. --AdmThrawn 17:57, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I like Corran Horn's quote :| --[[Image:BFguy.gif]]--Inmobilus 17:58, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I like Corran's better, also. Jedi Ranger 06:10, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Could we get something more joking? You know, they're practically comedians in flight suits. Or at least a few of them are. If not then I vote for Wedge's. (Sorry to tie it up) --OompaLoompa of DOOM 05:12, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Commander Celchu
During I, Jedi, Tycho Celchu is in command of Rogue Squadron (Corran, Gavin, and Orrol). Wedge is depicted as working on the rebuilding of Corscurant. Any other mentions of when Celchu is in command of the squadron? ~During the events of Wraith Squadron, Iron Fist and Solo Command, I believe.TIEPilot051999 02:59, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
 * The rebuilding was first mentioned in Jedi Search. -Finlayson 02:53, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Right, Wedge was with the Wraiths then. -Finlayson 02:53, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Rec-room pic
Who is that in the rec-room pic and when is it supposed to be from? -- Ozzel 02:53, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Still wondering on this one. Also, about the pic I just added...the battle on the cover of the first novel is over Borleias, right? It's been a while since I read it. Ozzel 18:41, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Expansion
I put an expansion tag on here. Surely we can do better than three paragraphs to cover at least 7 novels and over 38 comics! -- Ozzel 02:53, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I think it still needs more... the comic series only gets a single paragraph, and makes it sound like the unit had only six members right up until it was reformed in the novels. Happy to do a little bit if nobody objects? Nick Fel 17:22, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, I think the whole section might be better off for a little bit of tweaking. I see what the author was trying to do with the occasional summaries of what comes next, but without subheaders to go with them, it just makes the whole thing seem out of sequence. Nick Fel 17:52, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Fixed Article
Phew. Someone mangled this article bad. I managed to fix most of the broken parts, though. Odintheking 18:03, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Roster
Could someone more knowledgeable than I create seperate parts of the lists for flight commanders, lieutenants, majors, etc? I really have no idea how to go about it.-- The Erl of  talk  What I do 14:44, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Personally, I think the best way of listing pilots/rosters would be to do it chronologically, taken from the SWFA rosters - Does anyone else agree? KastMorben
 * SparqMan already has one put together on a user subpage here. I left a note on the talk page about incorperating it, but haven't heard back from him yet. -- Ozzel 17:23, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I still think the commanders should be kept seperate.-- The Erl of the  talk  What I do 02:20, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
 * And, after reviewing the page, it is, how you say, fucking enormous. Perhaps a seperate Rogue Squadron roster?-- The Erl of the  talk  What I do 18:21, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Probably a good idea - with a link included under a subheading on this page KastMorben 10:14, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe list the pilots and others in more than 1 column, like a table. Also, I'd like to seperate list for the Astromechs. but JMO.   - 03:19, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Now that school is over, I plan to integrate the information into a useful table for a seperate article, but the article should be about the unit and its history. --SparqMan 03:50, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I added a few more pilots, mostly from my RS pilot list over at the SWFA. A few of the pilots Sparqman had on his private page were from my old version of the list which was more fan fictiony, including some last or first names I created. This updated list is more accurate.--JMM 19:43, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Two crests?
Is there a reason to have the crest on the page twice, once at the top and once at the bottom? --JMM 13:36, 31 July 2006 (UTC) The origin of the design is really in question here. The issue is the colourised image, which I believe is a) redundant, and b) a fan creation (that particular image, not the twelve-point design). It's not in the comics, and I can't think of another sourcebook it could be from. There'd be nothing wrong with a fan rendering of the design if we didn't already have an official image from a sourcebook... but we do have one. Nick Fel 10:02, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't think there is. I can see the logic in either of the two positions, but not *both*. I think the second one is probably a fan creation, even though it is far more commonly seen on the net (that's just a guess though). Nick Fel 16:05, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The top one is the official one and the lower one is the original one by Gavin Darklighter. Don't see a problem with having both, as long as they are clearly labeled. -Finlayson 16:15, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't think that is the case, X-Wing: Rogue Squadron said that Gavin created the design itself, not the colour scheme--as you can see, the images are basically the same except for that. I didn't mean to suggest that the design itself was a fan creation, just that the coloured image is. The white and blue one from Heir to the Empire Sourcebook is probably the origin of the design, and Stackpole wrote that Gavin created in 'in universe'. I don't have the book on hand to see if he described the colours... Nick Fel 17:12, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * OK. I see your point.  I don't know the answer.  Maybe the Darklighter one came from a Rogue comic. -Finlayson 21:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, they're both Darklighter's one... which is the reason it's a bit silly having both versions. But nah, the comics are all set before the book it's designed in. Nick Fel 21:39, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
 * That's what I meant. The Rogue comics came before the books.  Also, the 2nd one does have Rogue Squadrod's red.  Well whatever.. -Finlayson 23:22, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah... so if the comics came chronologically before the books, how can the twelve-point crest designed in the books be from them? Nick Fel 08:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Right, it can't. Heir the Empire Sourcebook came before the X-wing books too, unless there was a 2nd edition or something.  Humm.. -Finlayson 01:19, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Heir to the Empire was released before the X-Wing novels, yes. But chronologically, the information in it is about a period after them. Early authors like Mike Stackpole drew a lot of their information from the WEG sourcebooks, and I think clearly, he looked up information on Rogue Squadron and then retconned into his first book that Gavin Darklighter designed it 6.5ABY.

Endor roster
"...Tycho Celchu (Red Two, A-wing), Wes Janson (Red Three, Y-wing), Derek Klivian (Red Four, A-wing), and an unidentified Human male as Red Five (X-wing)"
 * This whole paragraph needs a rewrite. Tycho was Green 3, Janson has no confirmed callsign (I don't think), and I don't know where Red Five is mentioned.--JMM 14:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)