Talk:Stormtrooper/Legends

Source for Clone
I'm sure that I've seen it before, but which source(s) explictly state that the clone troopers that survived the Clone Wars were converted into stormtroopers? --SparqMan 01:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, Star Wars: Empire, for one.--Eion 02:14, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Officers
Traditionally, a platoon is led by an NCO and an officer. I haven't seen anything that says the black-uniformed officers are equivalent to the shoulder-indicated armored officers we've seen. Is it reasonable to consider the rather wimpy looking blackshirts to be Naval NCOs while the paldron'ed ones are Stormie NCOs? --SparqMan 19:50, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Rename
I would prefer to see this article as "Imperial Stormtrooper Corps" with "Stormtrooper" redirecting. Thoughts? --SparqMan 18:43, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * Yep, with more emphasis on the organization. --Imp 18:58, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Female?
Quote: "As with much of the Imperial military, stormtroopers were predominantly male." - I thought they were entirely male, 100%.-LtNOWIS 08:21, 30 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * Maybe Leia should have said, "Aren't you a little flat-chested for a stormtrooper?" :P -- Riffsyphon1024 08:58, 30 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * Yea I knew I saw those somewhere. -- Riffsyphon1024 09:18, 30 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * For some reason, I vaguely recall a female cadet in Soldier for the Empire. I don't own it though. Can anyone check? --SparqMan 20:13, 30 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Organization
What's the source for the new Stormtrooper organizational information? --SparqMan 20:12, 30 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * I can confirm the numbers. That bit is from the Imperial Sourcebook. --Imp 20:15, 30 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Stylized Armor
From X-Wing: Wedge's Gamble, while Corran Horn is checking out security in and around the Grand Corridor: "Guards wearing a more stylized and esthetically pleasing form of stormtrooper armor maintained posts at these passages and gently redirected anyone who appeared to be lost." Have we seen or heard more about this in other sources? Is this a form of the armor we haven't seen in illustration, or just the Coruscant Guards? If it were the latter, I imagine he would have noted their red color. Thoughts? --22:58, 30 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * More aesthetically pleasing? I'll bet it looked like the armor in Aziz's picture. ;-)  Seriously, lacking evidence to the contrary, it's probably just the Coruscant Guard; the last thing we need is ANOTHER set of fully-armored elite troopers to place.  jSarek 00:24, 31 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * The choice of spelling is his (esthetically is acceptable, but uncommon). It's pretty clear that the guards are stormtroopers, and not another group of "elite troopers" (jeez, everyone's elite these days...). It does state earlier that Corran was noting the constabulary and the stormtrooper platoons assigned to aid them, which roughly describes what the Coruscant Guard did. --SparqMan 01:27, 31 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * I wasn't contesting his spelling, just repeating him to set up my punchline regarding Aziz's pic. ;-) jSarek 08:30, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Squad formations
It's also known that storm troopers are arranged in squads of nine -- 24.250.23.170

Story of the Clones
In Star Wars Force Commander, the stormtroopers are humans, but in Revenge of the Sith they are clones. Within those 19 years, how did the Clone Troopers become Stormtroopers? What happend to the clones? If the Empire had clones, why did they start replacing them with humans?
 * After RotS, the Empire began the cloning of other human templates (those who were very, very skilled), as well as humans not to be cloned. So, at the time of ANH, not all of the stormtroopers were clones from the Grand Army of the Republic. Plus, clone troopers were humans, just duplicates of Jango Fett. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 23:42, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * In His Image has details on how Vader chose the new prime clones. From what I saw, he valued loyalty more than skill. Stormtroopers are clones of Jango, clones of other people, and recruits. I think the Empire needed more stormtroopers, and the ones they had were being depleted. Also, Kamino got damaged after the Clone Wars.-LtNOWIS 01:54, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * Another thing that may explain the drop in quality from Clonetrooper to Stormtrooper is tightening of the the conditioning applied. The Kaminoans didn't like the ARC troopers, right? They thought it was playing with fire, or something, which is why they froze them to begin with... And in the end, even the regular clones were exhibiting improvised armor mods etc. Clamping down hard on this to stave off another ARC-trooper rebellion would be a natural progression. (Then again, the troopers we saw in the second trilogy were parade-quality troops rather than units who had been in extended combat for months...)--Winchester 14:46, 6 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Their role also shifted from an assault force to an occupation force on many worlds, requiring significantly more stormtroopers. --SparqMan 17:42, 6 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Whats the scources for stormtroopes beeing clones, I read that stormtroopers are normal born humans, recruited like other ,,normal" soldiers, and are only trained and indoctrinated better. --Dark Scipio 20:35, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * The fact that some stormtroopers were former clone troopers... Admiral J. Nebulax 21:20, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * But why should all stormtroopers be clones, while only some were fromer clone troopers and scources state, that they are recruited like normal soldiers?--Dark Scipio 15:48, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Uh, not all stormtroopers were clones. Admiral J. Nebulax 15:51, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Appearances

 * It seems a bit ridiculous to me to have an Appearances section in an article such as this, for the same reason the Jedi article doesn't have one; they're pretty much everywhere, at least, in this case, every Imperial-era story. I say we nix it. MarcK 06:45, 28 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Maybe we could have a List of stormtrooper appearances page, and make it work like the Luke Skywalker and the List of Luke Skywalker appearances pages. --Azizlight 03:41, 7 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * That would work nicely. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 23:45, 7 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Aiming issues
Any good retcons for the famed Stormtrooper inaccuracy? Were the soldiers aboard the Death Star clones of a half-blind man? --SparqMan 03:29, 7 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * No need, the two most famous instances were due to orders: Let them escape the DS to lead it to the secret Rebel base and letting them escape Bespin and be picked up by the Executor, if they managed to escape in the first place. The Endor battle was also going fairly well until Chewie highjacked an AT-ST, so even the Ewoks can't really claim superiority if all they had were surprise ambushes. VT-16 09:37, 15 Nov 2005 (UTC)

To work in
Slave Ship mentions that standard Stormtrooper disciplinary execution was a single blaster bolt to the back of the skull. --SparqMan 07:05, 5 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * That's interesting. Was there any more information on that, or was that all? Admiral J. Nebulax 22:06, 5 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Quote
What is the source of that quote? -- SFH 04:09, 17 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Good question. --AdmThrawn 04:21, 17 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Obi-Wan's "Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise" needs to be in there, too. &mdash; Silly Dan  04:38, 17 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * I have a suggestion for a quote: "Not that it matters how many stormtroopers die. There must be a factory that stamps them out." -Kirtan Loor, from X-Wing: Rogue Squadron. /Commander Mike 00:10, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm going to add these both in. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:11, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Conscriptions
Did the Empire conscript soldier by Yavin, They seem to have virtually the same bad aiming and disorderly fighting as a military conscript. QX100 01:38, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, they definitely weren't all the same person as of 0 BBY. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 12:31, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Army and Navy
Why are they capitalized? - TopAce 16:59, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Because "Imperial Army" and "Imperial Navy" are proper nouns. Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 17:21, 17 April 2006 (UTC)