Talk:Grievous/Legends

3 spoiler tags? --SparqMan 17:00, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Two should be enough for any article, since we only have two kinds of spoiler tags. I don't want to check it out on my own, though. -- Aidje 17:08, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Grievous's Lightsabers
What is the source of Grievous getting Foul Mondoma's, Roron corrb's, Sha'agi's, Tarr Ceiar's, and Even Piells lightsabers?--wattamb2000
 * Well I know for a fact that he took Roron Corobb's, as that's specifically mentioned in Reversal of Fortune; and it's assumed that he takes all of his victims' lightsabers. MarcK 14:20, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * and please put new comments at the BOTTOM of pages. Its rude to put them in above full pages of comment. Durnar 14:23, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * When in Reversal of Fortune? I cant find the part.--wattamb2000
 * Strip 83, and now that I look at it it actually mentions both Corobb and Moudama's sabers being taken:


 * Moudama and Corobb fought well, but Grievous was too strong. He took their lightsabers and the Chancellor and left in his ship.


 * So as I said I think it's safe to assume he takes them off of everyone he kills. MarcK 14:38, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)


 * If Greivous has 3 dozen sabers, he must of took some from the killed jedi on geonosis. That would make 32 sabers. *Was Even slashed on the chest? How was he killed?--wattamb2000
 * Please stop asking how people died. Nobody cares. And if you are that desperate to find out in detail, go read the original sources. Durnar 14:55, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * I dont think there is a source for the replicas of Qui-Gons and Sidious's. Is there?--wattamb2000

Title
Keeping in mind our "no titles in article name" rule, should this be at Grievous? QuentinGeorge 04:16, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
 * This is a tricky one, as he is never refered to in any literature as anything but General. Hmmm. Count Dooku is the same way. I'm torn on this one, it may be the exception.--Eion 05:31, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Hmmm...Dooku is referred as just "Dooku" when talking about his pre-Sith days, however. He only reclaimed the title when he left the order. QuentinGeorge 05:38, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
 * True, but I still think this may be the only exception. Though, I will wait till I see EpIII to judge.--Eion 05:44, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
 * With Grievous alone not sounding like a name, I'd say settle with the exception. I would revise Dooku, though.--Gen.d 18:58, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
 * It may be that General Grievous is a name he took on after being sealed into his metal body. In that case, "General" appears to be a part of his proper name, and should stay. The only thing that would make sense otherwise would be if a source refers to him as "Grievous" was still a full Kaleesh. --SparqMan 19:00, 20 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Coming back to this, it seems clear that this article should be titled "Grievous". --SparqMan 15:01, 28 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree --Beeurd 00:23, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Grievous post-ROTS?
In the new expansion pack for the SW: Galaxies online game, you apparently get to fight General Grievous in a post-ROTS environment! Now, I know this might be just game-mechanics and they are never a part of official continuity, but I believe he comes with a back-story that details his revival after ROTS, complete with an artificial "gut-sack" (to replace the one that blew up on him in the movie). And backstories in games are actually a part of continuity. What do we do with this information? VT-16 11:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC) Lord Patrick 08:23, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * *groan* He's dead; let him die. I can't believe they're going to try and bring him back. argh. (I'm sure my complaints are very helpful to you.) – Aidje talk 22:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Has he appeared yet? If not, I would wait. If he does, then I would only use material that is something you could a transcript of, such as game material, cut scenes (does SW:G even have these?), StarWars.com blurbs or other material. Just saying that he appears wouldn't really be worthwhile. --SparqMan 00:41, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Come on- The guy literally burst in flame - even out of his eyes! I have serious doubts that even Darth Vader would have survived this. --Gen.d 15:42, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Will they be giving him an artificial brain-sac too, because that puppy was fried up like a meal from the cookbook of Hanibal Lector. God, I know I've seen GG fighter in ads for the SW:G expansion, but I really hope they don't put him in...--Eion 15:45, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
 * That's a pretty terrible plot-twist, considering Grievous’ vital organs were incinerated. At least Boba Fett was still mostly in one piece when he was brought back. I hope this information ends up as no more than a note in the 'Behind the Scenes' section. --Fade 15:51, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Judging from people who played this, it´s not Grievous, but a droid built after his specs. Apparently it´s called N-K Necrosis. Funny, sounds almost like necromancy, "raising the dead"... Maybe I´m just grasping at straws. ;P VT-16 19:40, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, that's probably entirely intentional --Fade 21:30, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
 * After some snooping around, I can confirm the NK Necrosis. It is located in a cave on Kashyyyk, surrounded by an army of lesser droids. It uses a double-bladed red lightsaber, and seem to be completely mechanical (as opposed to Grievous). --Imperialles 21:44, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Maybe it's just a really poor rip-off then? Or a 'homage' if I'm being kind :P --Fade 09:23, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
 * In any case, Galaxies is S-canon
 * Well, if Grievous survived the shuttle crash that caused him to be a cyborg, perhaps there was a chance that his dead hulk was recovered and repaired to be completely droid, which meant all of Grievous's surviving "living" parts could have been scraped and been replaced by droid parts. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 12:19, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

reference to blasters after his death?
i suppose that this is not the right area to post this, but i seem to remember Obi-Wan saying something like 'Uncivilised' about the blaster that he kills Grevious with, can somebody please confirm this, also, does Obi-Wan say something about the blasters used by one of the characters in ANH??? --82.35.168.60
 * In RotS Obi-Wan tosses away Grievous's blast saying "So uncivilized". I think what you might be refering to in ANH is Obi-Wan telling Luke that lightsabers are of a "more civilized age" and not as "clumsy or random as a blaster". --Beeurd
 * thanks

Wheel Bike
This article needs to include a link to his Tsmeu-6 personal wheel bike.

Age
Do we have a source for Grievous' birthyear of 60 BBY? I haven't seen anything official on GG's age - Kwenn
 * I seem to recall reading something stating he was in his 40s when he became Grevious... Although I forget where I read this, I shall scour my resources searching for something to back this up. --Beeurd 00:22, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Coughing
Is it ever stated explicitly why he coughs? From what I've read elsewhere, it seems to me that it is merely assumed that he got the cough thanks to Mace's force-crush at the end of Clone Wars. Granted, I haven't read Labyrinth of Evil, so maybe it's explained there. Kuralyov 00:48, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * He didn't wheeze or cough before Mace crushed his chest plate in, so I imagine its safe to assume that as the cause. --65.96.185.195 01:32, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * He didn't cought before the crushing, and he started coughing a lot as soon as it did happen, even for the brief time in the cartoon after it happened. – Aidje talk 05:09, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * Somebody decided he should cough in the movie to prove to dumb movie audiences that he's not a robot. --24.141.193.190 02:28, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * In Deep Forest (one of the Visionaries stories) Greivous does indeed have a hacking cough. Rob Coleman says that the coughing is due to his organic body not taking well to the cyborg shell. Mace's "crush" simply aggravated an existing problem. Tam 14:19, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Chestplate Confusion
I believe that Grievous gets his chestplate crushed by Mace in both Labyrinth of Evil and Obsession... so which one do we put down? --Demented Smiloid 14:07, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * And don't forget Clone Wars. :-) – Aidje talk 15:33, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * Just say Mace did it, and don't specify where. QuentinGeorge 23:40, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

The First Vader?

 * Did you ever think that Grievous could be like a Vader before Vader.I'm mean like look at the facts; burtally injurned in a freak accident, half cyborg, wants revenge on the jedi, it all makes sence!Purplesaber 42
 * I believe the cyborg-life-support-after-brutal-injury parallel is intentional, if that's what you're asking. – Aidje talk 19:23, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, It's like Lucas accually wants us to beleve that,but I don't think alot of people reconize it.I think you have to watch Clone Wars to figure it out.Purplesaber 42

C-i-C
Like Asajj Ventress, Sev'rance Tann was not the C-i-C for CIS forces either. --SparqMan 22:26, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

First name and more
Confirmed by Abel G. Pena himself on TFN, Grievous's first name will be revealed in Star Wars Insider 84 in his article The Story of General Grievous. Also included will be his origins as an organic Kaleesh, the war with the Huks, and the blood transfusion from Sifo-Dyas. :D -- Riffsyphon1024 19:26, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Wow, that's great! The history of Greivous to be revealed. That will be one article I can't afford to miss. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 21:10, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Weird
Yeah um, maybe its my computer or something but the text of this page have been replaced with links and stuff and words overlapping other words. But its just this page not others.
 * It's the same with mine, too, and probally the same for everyone else. What could be doing this? How can we fix it? Cmdr. J. Nebulax 22:53, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * It was edited by some understood person pretending to be Wikipedia:User:Linuxbeak. &mdash; Silly Dan  22:57, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info. It's a lot better now. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 12:24, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)

DVD?
The Grievous scene on the DVD is: "It's more similar to the Clone Wars cartoon. And there's some music in there that you don't ever hear until now. Some of the John Williams music that was cut from the actual feature ends up in this scene. " GRIEVOUS KILLS SHAAK!--wattamb2000
 * How many times do we have to tell you, wattamb2000, Greivous DOES NOT KILL Shaak Ti! The official death of Shaak Ti is in the Jedi Temple. She got slaughtered by Anakin Skywalker!! Cmdr. J. Nebulax 13:33, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, Matt Wood, who attended the 2005 SFX Convention in Toronto, made a statement that might indicate this scene being restored to the film. Or he could have been joking. (Most likely) VT-16 15:25, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * It has to be a joke, even though it was planned that way, because the Episode III Visual Dictionary clearly states that Shaak Ti fell victim to Vader's fury in the Temple. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 16:05, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * Look at the Wikipedia article on Shaak Ti. It states Grievous killed her!--wattamb2000
 * Wikipedia is by no means an authoritative source. Any piece of information has been added by a fallible user, just as is the case here&mdash;so saying "Wikipedia says X" is no better an argument than "Wookieepedia says X"; in essence, it's about the weakest argument you could give. – Aidje talk 18:15, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * Plus, the EPISODE III VISUAL DICTIONARY IS A MORE REALIABLE SOURCE!!! Wattamb, if you're so desparate in making it seem you're right, which you aren't, how do we know that you didn't write that little bit yourself!!!! Cmdr. J. Nebulax 19:02, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)

6 BBY?
That date is incorrect. 6 BBY was during the rule of the Galactic Empire, so how could Dooku, Durge, and Grievous all be around after their deaths? -- Riffsyphon1024 18:30, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry, my mistake. I meant to write 6 ABoG and got confused. The correct date, from Clone Wars Adventures: Volume 3 is 22 BBY. --Master Starkeiller 21:10, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Grievous Resurrected?
It says that Grievous was resurrected after the Galactic Civil War. What are the sources for this? Unit121 21:11, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * Galaxies, but it's not canon. And even if it is, that wasn't Grievous. It was a droid called N-K "Necrosis" that seemed to use Grievous' shell. --Master Starkeiller 21:20, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * Removed the nonsense text. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 22:50, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC)

His Voice
I noticed in Episode III, Grievous had one voice, but then in the Clone Wars, he had another voice. In the sega, did Grievous aways have that voice from Episode III, or did his voice change when Mace crushed his body at the end of Clone Wars Chapter 25?