Forum:SH Archive/The Super-Terrific Wookiee-Tastic Year-Article Sourcing Beautification Project

From the makers of The Super-Terrific Wookiee-Tastic Image Sourcing Beautification Project...Wookieepedia brings you a new spectacular program designed to shore up the wiki's mainspace from lacking date articles. This is The Super-Terrific Wookiee-Tastic YEAR-ARTICLE Sourcing Beautification Project!

What is this about this time?
Wookieepedia's goal has always been to provide readers with reliable Star Wars data from fully licensed sources. To that end, it has long been Wookieepedia's singular core policy to require that each in-universe article created be fully attributed and sourced by including a list of Appearances or Sources to verify its validity. For articles failing to meet this requirement, it has traditionally been this wiki's practice to note unverified articles with the Verify template, and articles that are not verified after seven days' time are then deleted by an administrator with no show of mercy. None of this should be news to any of you.

Yet, for some reason, hundreds of date articles sit in the mainspace unverified, unsourced, or with no information at all.

What can be done?
As with any unverified article, we have two possible choices: we can either source them, or an administrator can delete them. There is no reason or loophole in site policy that justifies the continued existence of any unsourced in-universe article on Wookieepedia past the aforementioned one-week grace period.

So what's going to happen?
We're either going to source these year articles, or, for those that aren't sourced, we're going to delete them as unverified, per site policy and protocol. You read that right. Delete them. Every single one.

But I'm scared
I am too, Johnny. This is a big deal. But this is where this project comes in.

Listed below is a collection of every single year article that does not have an Appearance or Source. The collection is divided into two lists. The first is for articles that literally have no source or reference to speak of. The second is for articles that have a "Notes and reference" section only, and are therefore marginally sourced, but are still technically unverified. Under normal circumstances these articles would still have the "Verify" tag applied to them and would still be deleted as unverified.

There are currently 242 articles with no source or reference at all, and 117 articles with "Notes and referencing" only (give or take a few for counting/compiling mistakes). The lists are divided into chronological eras for convenience and navigation. That's the bad news. The good news is that these articles can still be saved...with your help!

Ideally, we wouldn't have to delete a single article. Each one can theoretically be saved from deletion by adding an Appearance or Source. But with such a large number of articles, no one alone can be expected to undertake such a massive project. Luckily, we have an entire community of editors. And that's where you come in. Anyone can chip in by helping to source any of the articles listed below.

So how is this going to work?
For the first set of 242 articles, you may from this point forward consider them to be on "Verify" probation. For any article that isn't eventually sourced, it's going to be deleted. But not right away. Normally we would give them that one-week grace period we talked about. But since this is such a large undertaking, these articles are going to be given two weeks. Since not everyone is going to find this project thread right away, a bot is going to add the "Verify" template to every single applicable article of the first 242 one week from now, on Friday, November 26. After the second week, on Friday, December 3, any unsourced article in the first set of 242 will be deleted.

For the second set of 117, this is a bit more tricky, since, as noted, they do (at least most of them) include properly referenced information, they're just not properly sourced. As soon as possible, a bot is going to add the More sources template to each one. It's our hope that a legitimate source can be easily gleaned from the referencing. As this project continues, these articles may also be put under Verify probation as we go through each one and determine their validity.

How can I help?
The fate of these articles rests totally in your hands. If you don't want to see them deleted, add a valid source to the article. Once you've added a source, please "check off" the article from the lists below by striking it and signing your name with a note below the article link. Also remember to remove the Verify tag from the article after adding a source. This will tell us that the article is no longer eligible for deletion.

But it's not that simple. You must make sure you're providing a legitimate source to the article. You can make sure what you're doing is valid by keeping these things in mind:
 * If you haven't already, browse through Wookieepedia's Attribution policy and Sourcing policy for the key principles on referencing information
 * Read through Wookieepedia's Layout Guide sections on Appearances and Sources lists for an idea of what constitutes reliable source material.
 * No guessing. Just because you think a source applies to a certain article doesn't make it so. Please first verify the information with the actual source before adding it to an article. If you need help, there are people who can answer your questions either in the "Comments" section below, in Wookieepedia's Forum:Senate Hall, Knowledge Bank, or on our IRC channel.
 * This also means that Wookieepedia is not a source. Just because you find information on this wiki does not mean it's valid. Do not add a source to an article because information in a Wookieepedia article tells you so. Check the source yourself!
 * Anyone found purposely inserting false information will be dealt with accordingly by an administrator.

Here are a few examples of year articles that meet Wookieepedia's sourcing policy. Use these as a how-to reference!
 * 20,000 BBY
 * 17,000 BBY
 * 14,743 BBY
 * 3 ABY
 * 10 ABY

Again, the dates are listed below. Good luck!

Comments
Discussion is held here. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:42, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * I was wondering if anyone could clarify how we should treat articles where the date is inferred, rather than directly stated in the "XXX BBY" form. For example, the Living Force Campaign Guide includes a timeline of years in relation to the Invasion of Naboo, e.g. stating that the Tarasin Revolt began "-129" years from the Battle of Naboo. As various sources state that the Battle of Naboo took place in 32 BBY, we can therefore deduce where the events of the LFCG fit in relation to the BBY/ABY system, placing the Tarasin Revolt as beginning in 161 BBY. However, the term "161 BBY" is never explicitly stated anywhere, so would it be a reasonable assumption to source the 161 BBY article to the LFCG? --Jinzler 22:48, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think it would be ok. You could add the tag to the Sources list, and maybe even leave a brief BTS note explaining the ambiguity. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:51, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks!! --Jinzler 00:00, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * How do we want to approach "ago"s? Many reference books refer to events occurring so may years ago, but are pretty vague about the time period they're set in.  DD97 Which bear is best? 17:08, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Examples? Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:05, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Alien Anthology states that Necropolis was colonized 15,000 years ago, but as it's from the WotC game, this could be dated from any time between 32 BBY-25 ABY. The Essential Atlas refers to Nubia as being inhabited for "twenty-two millenia", but not a present day perspective from which to gauge that timeframe.  DD97 Which bear is best? 05:45, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * If it's that ambiguous, I would probably recommend avoiding asserting a hard date or a single year. Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:53, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * What about Timeline of galactic history? This page seems to be filled with alot of unsourced info and redirects to Constantly recreated pages.  OLIOSTER  (talk) 10:27, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Someone needs to go through and semi-protect every deleted year against recreation. Noobs are spamming crap like 112 BBY and 4,000,000 BBY. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 16:10, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

I just semi-protected all the articles that are still redlinks. As much as I love deleting things, I don't particularly enjoy re-deleting things. Any article that has been deleted two or more times has been fully protected against recreation. If you want to restore them with a proper source, any administrator may undo this protection under the "undeletion of an item with a clear canonical basis" clause of WP:AA, and I am giving my explicit permission here for any administrator to undo this protection. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 02:17, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

So what happens now?
The first round of deletions is complete. Any unverified article in the first set of 242 has now been deleted. But that doesn't mean they're gone forever. As with any deleted article, if you discover at any point that an article needs to be recreated, please feel free to do with an appropriate source to very the article's information. Please also leave a note under the appropriate item in the lists below so we know what's going on.

There are still about 66 or so articles remaining in the secondary list of "Notes and references only" articles. From this point forward, depending on the determined viability of any of the referencing therein, any of these remaining articles may be put under "Verify" probation at any time. If they aren't sourced within seven days after that, they will be deleted. So please keep up the good work and let's try to get these final articles sourced. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:55, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Pre-Republic era (12)

 * 4,000,000 BBY
 * The glossary at the end of The Glove of Darth Vader only says that the Valley of the Giant Oysters "has been the home of the giant oysters for millions of years".  Imperators II (Talk) 12:36, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2,006,200 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 14:12, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2,004,200 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 14:19, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2,002,200 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 14:31, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2,002,000 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 14:43, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1,000,000 BBY
 * Resurrected upon finding a source for one of the events here. jSarek 05:36, December 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * 999,975 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 15:47, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * 750,000 BBY
 * 500,000 BBY
 * 300,000 BBY
 * 200,000 BBY
 * 95,000 BBY
 * 50,000 BBY
 * 49,000 BBY
 * 40,000 BBY
 * 33,598 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 17:24, March 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * 33,357 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 17:41, March 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * 30,020 BBY
 * 29,000 BBY
 * 25,180 BBY
 * 25,130 BBY
 * Toprawa and Ralltiir 07:16, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 25,105 BBY, er, 25,102 BBY
 *  DD97 Which bear is best? 06:05, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 25,095 BBY
 * Many dates in this era are based on Nathan Butler's timeline, but the most are too conjectural, for example 50,000 is derived from "millenia before the formation of the Republic". Darth Morrt 16:21, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Expansionist Era (1)

 * 24,980 BBY
 * 23,900 BBY
 *  DD97 Which bear is best? 17:05, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 22,000 BBY
 * Found citation for one of the events here, added Fact templates to the remaining two. jSarek 23:35, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Kymoodon Era (3)

 * 14,975 BBY
 * 14,000 BBY
 * Sourced by . Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:25, December 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * 13,975 BBY
 * 13,720 BBY
 * &mdash; Fiolli  04:00, November 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 12,500 BBY
 * I've gone through the events listed in these years (Kymoodon Era) and they cannot be properly sourced to the dates listed. They can be sourced to the era, but the dates are conjecture and not really based upon simple math, either. &mdash; Fiolli  06:12, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Herglics made contact with Humans in 12720 BBY. The Lords of the Expanse and the Atlas state, that the Herglic Trade Empire collapsed "a millenia before". Is this good enough for an approximate date of 13720? Darth Morrt 23:36, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Good catch, Morrt. I forgot to see what happened in the Atlas with these. I'll buy 13,720 as an approximate year after rereading some things. I've taken care of it, too. The others (which are way too vaguely inferred from the Alien Anthology) can be canned. If for some reason someone comes up with an obscure source that has it, we can re-add it.

Pius Dea Era (3)

 * 11,975 BBY
 * Flawed logic on this date means it will need to be deleted.  DD97 Which bear is best? 19:14, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11,720 BBY
 * This should be deleted. The Colonial Era of Tapani Sector lasted approx. 1000 years, which gives this date. However, the era laster 1012 years. Darth Morrt 10:28, November 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11,708 BBY
 * Darth Morrt 10:28, November 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11,660 BBY
 * Jinzler 11:31, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11,500 BBY
 * 11,000 BBY
 * Jinzler 11:31, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Ductavis Era (2)

 * 10,019 BBY
 *  DD97 Which bear is best? 18:48, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 9,997 BBY
 * 9,988 BBY
 * 9,000 BBY
 * Incidentally, 9000 is the number of years ago I restored this date. Insert DBZ meme here.  DD97 Which bear is best? 06:31, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Rianitus Period (1)

 * 8,296 BBY

Subterra Period (6)

 * 7,720 BBY
 * Should be deleted. Based on wrong approx. Tapani date. The correct date is 7,328. Darth Morrt 10:43, November 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7,700 BBY
 * 7,600 BBY
 * 7,500 BBY
 * 7,328 BBY
 * Darth Morrt 10:43, November 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7,308 BBY
 * 7,299 BBY
 * 7,032 BBY
 * Sourced by Ayrehead02. Imperators II 13:48, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Manderon Period (10)

 * 6,997 BBY
 * 6,950 BBY
 * Sourced by Obi-wan Jacobi.  Imperators II (Talk) 20:14, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 6,895 BBY
 * 6,875 BBY
 * 6,300 BBY
 * 6,000 BBY
 * 5,975 BBY
 * Jinzler 12:22, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5,100 BBY
 * Sourced by Obi-wan Jacobi.  Imperators II (Talk) 20:14, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 5,038 BBY
 * 5,032 BBY
 * 5,020 BBY
 * 5,007 BBY
 * 5,002 BBY

Post-Manderon Period (14)

 * 4,996 BBY
 * 4,995 BBY
 * Imperators II 17:33, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4,950 BBY
 * 4,789 BBY
 * 4,700 BBY
 * 4,596 BBY
 * Sourced by Jedimasterfiolli. Imperators II 13:48, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4,519 BBY
 * 4,300 BBY
 * 4,156 BBY
 * 4,150 BBY
 * 4,070 BBY
 * 4,050 BBY
 * Recreated and sourced by yours truly. QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 17:09, February 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4,048 BBY
 * Sourced by IFYLOFD. Imperators II 13:48, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4,040 BBY
 * 4,024 BBY
 * 4,021 BBY
 * 4,019 BBY
 * 4,018 BBY
 * Sourced by IFYLOFD.  Imperators II (Talk) 20:14, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4,017 BBY

Old Sith Wars (4)

 * 4,014 BBY
 * I accidentally. –Tm_T (Talk) 23:58, December 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4,013 BBY
 * 4,012 BBY
 * Sourced by TK-999. Imperators II 14:23, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4,009 BBY
 * NaruHina Talk Anakinsolo.png 18:38, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4,005 BBY
 * 4,002 BBY
 * Sourced by Tommy9281. Imperators II 14:23, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4,001 BBY
 * 3,995 BBY
 * Jinzler 00:14, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3,990 BBY
 * Sourced by Dark Lord Trayus. Imperators II 14:23, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3,988 BBY
 * Imperators II 20:51, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3,983 BBY
 * 3,982 BBY
 * Sourced by Toprawa and Ralltiir 00:58, November 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3,968 BBY
 * NAYA  YEN   19:46, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3,962 BBY
 * Sourced by TK-999.  Imperators II (Talk) 20:14, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Inter-Sith Wars Period (5)

 * 3,678 BBY
 * Imperators II 20:50, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3,623 BBY
 * Magically transformed into 3,641 BBY by  DD97 Which bear is best? 00:15, April 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3,522 BBY
 * Sourced by QuiGonJinn. Imperators II 14:23, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3,519 BBY
 * 3,475 BBY
 * 3,100 BBY
 * Jinzler 00:23, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3,032 BBY
 * Sourced by Atarumaster88. Imperators II 14:23, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Turned out the War of the Gungan Tribes was in 2,575 BBY, so the remaining item is still unsourced.  Imperators II (Talk) 19:19, May 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2,996 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 01:43, March 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2,992 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 00:28, March 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2,989 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 18:17, March 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2,979 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 02:24, March 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2,700 BBY
 * 2,519 BBY
 * Sourced by Coruscantfan. Imperators II 14:23, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2,032 BBY

Draggulch Period (2)

 * 1,991 BBY
 * Imperators II 10:33, February 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1,989 BBY
 * Sourced by TK-999. Imperators II 14:33, March 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1,960 BBY
 * Imperators II 10:48, February 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1,569 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 21:27, March 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1,532 BBY
 * 1,489 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 18:37, March 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1,289 BBY
 * 1,187 BBY ( 1,196 BBY, actually)
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 00:01, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1,026 BBY
 * Sourced by . Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:12, December 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1,020 BBY
 * Imperators II 16:43, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1,008 BBY
 * Sourced by Tommy9281. Imperators II 14:23, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1,006 BBY
 * Jonjedigrandmaster ( Talk ) 21:08, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1,005 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 21:50, April 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1,001 BBY
 * Jinzler 00:23, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Republic Classic era (62)

 * 997 BBY
 * Jonjedigrandmaster ( Talk ) 20:46, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 965 BBY
 * 920 BBY
 * 915 BBY
 * 850 BBY
 * 832 BBY
 * 830 BBY
 * 800 BBY
 * Jinzler 00:23, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 796 BBY
 * 752 BBY
 * 750 BBY
 * 719 BBY
 * 702 BBY
 * 620 BBY
 * Sourced by TK-999. Imperators II 14:23, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 610 BBY
 * Sourced by QuiGonJinn.  Imperators II (Talk) 20:14, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 596 BBY
 * Sourced by TK-999. Imperators II 13:36, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 595 BBY
 * 580 BBY
 * Jinzler 12:22, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 571 BBY
 * 550 BBY
 * Sourced by TK-999. Imperators II 14:23, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 532 BBY
 * 527 BBY
 * 524 BBY
 * 522 BBY
 * 519 BBY
 * Sourced by TK-999. Imperators II 17:37, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 495 BBY
 * 491 BBY
 * 482 BBY
 * 481 BBY
 * 475 BBY
 * Sourced by . Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:48, December 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well,, at any rate.  DD97 Which bear is best? 04:53, December 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * 470 BBY
 * 439 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 20:27, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 422 BBY
 * 419 BBY
 * 395 BBY
 * 392 BBY
 * Sourced by Cavalier One. Imperators II 14:23, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 380 BBY
 * Sourced by TK-999. Imperators II 13:36, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 378 BBY
 * 360 BBY
 * 340 BBY
 * Imperators II 18:28, February 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 332 BBY
 * 322 BBY
 * 319 BBY
 * 312 BBY
 * Toprawa and Ralltiir 06:52, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 297 BBY
 * 296 BBY
 * 293 BBY
 * 292 BBY
 * 290 BBY
 * The endnotes of Dark Empire 5, which is set in 10 ABY, states that the Tedryn Holocron was "lost for over 300 years." Darth Morrt 11:55, December 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * 282 BBY
 * Sourced by . Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:32, December 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * 275 BBY
 * Imperators II 14:33, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 250 BBY
 * Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:59, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * 245 BBY
 * 232 BBY
 * Jinzler 00:00, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 222 BBY
 * 220 BBY
 * 219 BBY
 * 207 BBY
 * Jinzler 00:00, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 196 BBY
 * 195 BBY
 * I was wondering if this counted as a valid source, from Kyle Katarn's Tale, Mission 4: "The nearly 200-year-old Tiss'sharl administrative droid had been the head droid managing the legendary Woostri HoloScan Database." Since the events of the video game Star Wars: Jedi Knight occur in 5 ABY, doesn't that mean that his construction could be sourced to c. 195 BBY? Just checking.-- Exiled Jedi  Oldrepublic crest.svg (Greetings)  20:02, July 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 192 BBY
 * 191 BBY
 * 188 BBY
 * Jinzler 00:00, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 181 BBY
 * Sourced by . Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:36, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 180 BBY
 * After looking into the source information behind this article, I've found the date to most likely be fanon. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:11, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 177 BBY
 * Jinzler 00:00, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 171 BBY
 * 161 BBY
 * Jinzler 00:00, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 160 BBY
 * Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:22, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 157 BBY
 * Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:31, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 155 BBY
 * 154 BBY
 * Jinzler 00:00, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 150 BBY
 * Toprawa and Ralltiir 06:48, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 147 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 20:14, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 145 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 20:14, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 142 BBY
 * 140 BBY
 * 130 BBY
 * Sourcing in progress.&mdash;TK-999 Era-imp.png(Rise of the Empire) 12:44, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 129 BBY
 * Imperators II 14:23, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 128 BBY
 * Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:01, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 125 BBY
 * 121 BBY
 * Sourced by TK-999. Imperators II 13:36, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 119 BBY
 * Jinzler 00:00, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 118 BBY
 * 112 BBY
 * Now sourced. Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:46, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 110 BBY
 * Jinzler 00:00, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 107 BBY
 * 105 BBY
 * 104 BBY
 * 99 BBY
 * 98 BBY
 * 97 BBY
 * Sourced by TK-999. Imperators II 13:36, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 96 BBY
 * 93 BBY
 * 91 BBY
 * 88 BBY
 * Sourced by Borsk Fey'lya. Imperators II 14:33, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 86 BBY
 * Jinzler 23:15, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 83 BBY
 * 79 BBY
 * 78 BBY
 * I'm late to the party, but according to Jedi Apprentice: The Deadly Hunter, Qui-Gon met Didi Oddo when he was just a bit older than Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan is fourteen in the book, so 78 BBY can be considered an approximate date for their meeting. QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 22:21, January 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * 73 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 08:27, July 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * 71 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 21:35, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * 70 BBY
 * Sourced by Dark Guardian. Imperators II 14:23, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 67 BBY
 * Jinzler 23:15, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 64 BBY
 * Sourced by Jinzler. Imperators II 14:23, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 63 BBY
 * 61 BBY
 * jSarek 12:02, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 56 BBY
 * Jinzler 00:00, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 40 BBY
 * Toprawa and Ralltiir 06:23, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Imperial Period (0)

 * 15 BBY
 *  DD97 Which bear is best? 21:35, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 8 BBY
 * Jinzler 23:15, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Post-Imperial Period (1)

 * 30 ABY
 * Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:45, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * 33 ABY
 * Jonjedigrandmaster ( Talk ) 21:19, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 37 ABY
 * I couldn't source what was there, but I've replaced it with info that I can source.  Master Jonathan New Jedi Order.svg ( Jedi Council Chambers ) 01:44, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sourced the previous info.  Imperators II (Talk) 13:57, March 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * 38 ABY
 * Sourced by Jinzler.  Imperators II (Talk) 21:14, March 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * 39 ABY
 * Sourced by TK-999. Imperators II 13:36, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * 42 ABY
 * Jonjedigrandmaster ( Talk ) 21:19, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 119 ABY
 * I notated this year, but I can't outright source it. Counter-intuitive as that may sound.  DD97 Which bear is best? 06:11, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * I swear there's a source somewhere saying that Cade is 21 in Legacy. I'll try to find it. Cade isn't necessarily zero when Morrigan leaves him; he could be two or three. Menkooroo 06:14, November 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 128 ABY
 * Jinzler 00:23, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Pre-Republic era (0)

 * 2,000,000,000 BBY
 * This needs to be deleted. This date is wildly inaccurate, since Lando Calrissian and the Flamewind of Oseon states that the Oseon asteroid belts were formed "[..] perhaps billions of years before the advent of humankind". Imperators II 15:00, March 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * 10,000,000 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 16:15, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * 999,989 BBY
 * This date article needs to be deleted, because it's speculation and/or just incorrect. Henrietya Antilles (in From the Files of Corellia Antilles, Star Wars Adventure Journal 14) states this: "The sum recorded history of the galaxy is estimated to total about 500,000 years, and that's just the history we can decipher. Perhaps another 500,000 years or more of history lies unknown, undeciphered, or simply unrecorded." While the first sentence really refers to c. 499,989 BBY, the second one is just a pure guess.  Imperators II (Talk) 15:22, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * 499,989 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 17:16, March 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * 36,453 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 17:06, March 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * 25,793 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 18:02, March 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * 25,783 BBY
 * This is sort of referenced in Vortex. Kenth mentions that the Jedi have protected the government for 25 millennia, but it doesn't give this exact date. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 16:31, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sourced.  Imperators II (Talk) 18:07, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Expansionist Era (0)

 * 25,053 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 20:53, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 24,953 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 21:46, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 24,500 BBY
 * Sourced by Rexas.  Imperators II (Talk) 21:03, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Kymodon Era (0)

 * 13,000 BBY
 * Toprawa and Ralltiir 07:25, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 12,720 BBY
 * Darth Morrt 23:30, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Subterra Period (0)

 * 7,003 BBY
 * I just hope the TOR won't forget that the Second Great Scism and the Hundred Years Darkness are related, but separate events. Darth Morrt 09:19, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Manderon Period (0)

 * 5,000 BBY
 * Toprawa and Ralltiir 07:20, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Post-Manderon Period (0)

 * 4,992 BBY
 * 4,985 BBY
 * 4,975 BBY
 * —Tommy 9281 00:29, December 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4,904 BBY
 * Jinzler 20:59, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4,350 BBY
 * Sourced by Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:45, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4,250 BBY
 * Jinzler 11:52, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4,129 BBY
 * Jinzler 23:15, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4,067 BBY
 * Jinzler 23:15, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4,056 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 02:55, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Old Sith Wars (3)

 * 4,003 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 15:38, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3,999 BBY
 * 3,997 BBY
 * Jinzler 11:52, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3,994 BBY
 * —Tommy 9281 08:53, December 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3,980 BBY
 * Jinzler 12:22, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3,977 BBY
 * Jinzler 00:23, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3,974 BBY
 * 3,973 BBY
 * Sourced by Hk 47.  Imperators II (Talk) 21:25, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3,966 BBY
 * Jinzler 00:14, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3,964 BBY
 * Jinzler 23:15, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3,958 BBY
 * Jinzler 12:22, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3,957 BBY
 * Jinzler 23:15, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3,954 BBY

Inter-Sith Wars Period (0)

 * 3,671 BBY
 * Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 06:02, December 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3,667 BBY
 * Imperators II 17:03, February 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3,661 BBY
 * Imperators II 16:14, February 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3,643 BBY
 * Imperators II 17:22, February 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3,350 BBY
 * Jinzler 00:23, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2,022 BBY
 * Imperators II 16:04, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Draggulch Period (0)

 * 1,050 BBY
 * Jonjedigrandmaster ( Talk ) 16:42, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1,019 BBY
 * Jonjedigrandmaster ( Talk ) 16:37, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1,013 BBY
 * I'm not sure what do do with this one. The date of 1,013 seems to come from the fact that a certain character in Darth Bane: Rule of Two is 13 years old at the start of the novel, which would indicate that the novel takes place in 1,000 BBY. However, the front matter of the book itself claims that Rule of Two takes place in 1,020 BBY. ~ SavageBob 21:39, November 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wait, Rule of Two says somewhere that it happens before Path of Destruction? That doesn't jibe.  DD97 Which bear is best? 03:00, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, the timeline at the front of the book has both occurring "1020 years before Star Wars: A New Hope". ~ SavageBob 03:29, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, common sense trumps that chronological impossibility, so it'd be best to just disregard that timeline in this case.  DD97 Which bear is best? 03:47, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * I've not read either novel, so I have no idea if the dates fit or not, so I'll yield on this particular one. ~ SavageBob 04:15, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * IIRC, Nathan Butler explained somewhere on the official forum, that the book's timeline's dates are not dates, but milestones. The Bane books are set after 1020, not in 1020. Just like the NJO books, which are set between 25 and 35, not in 25. Darth Morrt 08:56, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, sourced. ~ SavageBob 16:13, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1,010 BBY
 * Jinzler 12:22, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1,009 BBY
 * Jonjedigrandmaster ( Talk ) 21:36, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1,003 BBY
 * Jonjedigrandmaster ( Talk ) 21:28, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Republic Classic era (3)

 * 998 BBY
 * Jonjedigrandmaster ( Talk ) 21:28, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 995 BBY
 * Jonjedigrandmaster ( Talk ) 16:46, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 992 BBY
 * This should be deleted; this part takes place ten years after the Ruusan campaign; so in 990 BBY, not 992. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 16:46, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * In chapter 10, set in 990 BBY, it is stated that "Bane had made a third attempt to create his own Holocron two years ago."  Imperators II (Talk) 11:30, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * 990 BBY
 * Jonjedigrandmaster ( Talk ) 21:36, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 980 BBY
 * Jonjedigrandmaster ( Talk ) 21:36, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 896 BBY
 * Jinzler 22:34, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 650 BBY
 * 592 BBY
 * Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 14:52, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 583 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 23:05, June 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * 553 BBY
 * Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:32, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 529 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 23:05, June 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * 517 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 23:05, June 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * 516 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 15:50, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * 509 BBY
 * Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:44, November 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 499 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 23:05, June 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * 320 BBY
 * Sourced by NaruHina.  Imperators II (Talk) 11:37, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Needs to be deleted, since TEGAS only says the events happened "over three centuries before the Empire dawned".  Imperators II (Talk) 11:37, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * My bad, TEGAS actually gives the exact date of 300 BBY. However, this one needs to go anyway.  Imperators II (Talk) 11:47, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * 280 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 11:55, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * 229 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 22:05, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 212 BBY
 * Sourced by Kilson.  Imperators II (Talk) 22:05, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 206 BBY
 * Toprawa and Ralltiir 00:17, November 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 194 BBY
 * 190 BBY
 * Toprawa and Ralltiir 00:05, November 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 167 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 13:35, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * 133 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 23:05, June 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * 132 BBY
 * Jinzler 11:52, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 102 BBY
 * Jinzler 22:34, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 95 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 23:05, June 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * 94 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 13:51, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * 92 BBY
 * Jinzler 22:34, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 82 BBY
 * Jinzler 00:05, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 77 BBY
 * Sourced by Jinzler.  Imperators II (Talk) 22:05, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 76 BBY
 * Sourced by Jinzler.  Imperators II (Talk) 22:05, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 74 BBY
 * 72 BBY
 * Jinzler 00:05, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 68 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 13:58, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * 62 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 23:05, June 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * 59 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 14:29, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * 57 BBY
 * Jinzler 22:34, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 55 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 22:05, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 54 BBY
 * Jinzler 11:52, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 53 BBY
 * Jinzler 00:00, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 51 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 14:27, June 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * 49 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 13:22, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * 48 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 13:22, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * 47 BBY
 * Jinzler 23:15, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 46 BBY
 * Jinzler 22:34, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 43 BBY
 * Jinzler 23:15, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 42 BBY
 *  Imperators II (Talk) 12:16, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * 41 BBY
 * Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:05, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * 39 BBY
 * Jinzler 23:15, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 31 BBY
 * Jinzler 00:00, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 28 BBY
 * Jinzler 22:34, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 26 BBY
 * Jinzler 11:52, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Imperial Period (0)

 * 14 BBY
 * —Xwing328 (Talk) 06:37, February 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Trying to source some of the other details, Tendra is listed as being born in 14 BBY. In Ambush at Corellia, it says "Tendra Risant was about thirty standard years..." That approximation would place it at 12 BBY since Ambush takes place in 18 ABY. I imagine there's a better source for 14 BBY somewhere though... —Xwing328 (Talk) 07:06, February 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Cracken's Threat Dossier, pg. 114, states she is thirty-two. jSarek 07:23, February 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * 13 BBY
 * Jinzler 23:15, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4 BBY
 * Omicron 21:51, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Post-Imperial Period (0)

 * 5 ABY
 * Toprawa and Ralltiir 06:58, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 14 ABY
 * Jinzler 11:52, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 15 ABY
 * Sourced. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:44, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * 18 ABY
 * Jinzler 12:22, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 20 ABY
 * Is there anything other than speculation stating that the wedding takes place a year after Vision of the Future? I've always been a member of the 19 ABY camp. Jacen and Jaina don't find out about the engagement until the first issue of Union, anyway. If there's no source confirming the year gap, should this one go? Menkooroo 06:18, November 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Newer DH Omnibus comic books list Union to 20 ABY. Randy Stradley confirmed somewhere on the DH forum, that the Licensing requested the change. Maybe Zahn is behind this, but that's just my speculation. Darth Morrt 11:01, November 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * FWIW, New Essential Chronology clearly marks the wedding as 19 ABY. I'm not sure what material Morrt is referring to. The referencing in this article, regarding Gavrisom's office term, appears to be extrapolation/speculation. NEC only states that he won the election for Chief of State in 19 ABY, with no specific reference at all to 20 ABY. This article will likely be a "Verify" candidate before too long unless you guys can dig something up. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:11, November 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I found this thread on the Dark Horse boards, which seem to indicate the change went in the opposite direction to what Darth Morrt remembers; the comics used to be at 20 ABY, but were moved to 19 ABY. jSarek 00:04, November 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * I misremembered. Dark Horse's timeline was changed sometime in 2008 or 2009, years after NEC. Darth Morrt 00:11, November 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sourced date to Star Wars: The Ultimate Visual Guide. Source doesn't actually give any information for the year, but it mentions it in a timeline graphic. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:43, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * 21 ABY
 * Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:47, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 22 ABY
 * Jinzler 11:52, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 34 ABY
 * Jonjedigrandmaster ( Talk ) 21:28, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 104 ABY
 * Leland Chee has stated that Lucas's comment about Artoo and the Shaman of the Whills should be taken with a grain of salt. Are we cool with jettisoning the first point in this article? Menkooroo 06:18, November 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sourced.  Imperators II (Talk) 13:41, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 127 ABY
 * Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:37, November 21, 2010 (UTC)