Wookieepedia:AgriCorps/Log/2009 January 18

[15:21]		Here begins the meeting proper. [15:21]		Can we kill some articles now? XD [15:21]		Yes [15:21]		Tope, would you like to share links? [15:21]		Or shall I? [15:21]		Um. [15:21]		Hey one thing real quick. If I'm not reviewing a ton, I apologize; it's probably 'cause I'm very active on the FAN page (Inqing) [15:21]		One second. [15:21]		... [15:21]		So, sorry if I'm not reviewing as much as some others occasionally [15:21]		It's cool, Chack. You're fine. [15:22]		Cool, cool. Anyway, let's begin when Tope's ready [15:22]		Come on, I have an itchy trigger finger. [15:22]		ugh [15:22]		First article: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Battle_of_Balmorra_(Second_Galactic_Civil_War)&oldid=2306538 [15:22]		No change since the last meeting. [15:22]	-->|	Ralltiir has joined #wookieepedia-agricorps [15:22]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-agricorps +o Ralltiir by chanserv [15:22]	<Ralltiir>	ok [15:22]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Kill. [15:22]	<Ralltiir>	I can link now [15:22]	<Ralltiir>	Kill [15:22]	<CavalierOne>	Kill [15:22]	<Cylka>	kill [15:22]	<ChackJadson>	Kill [15:22]	<Graestan>	Death to Balmorra [15:23]	<Graestan>	Next up, the slovenly http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Duel_in_the_Chancellor%27s_Office&diff=2344533&oldid=2306546 [15:23]	<ChackJadson>	Kill [15:23]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Kill. [15:23]	<Graestan>	A mess forever, regardless of changes. Kill. [15:23]	<Ralltiir>	I'm not linking now? [15:23]	<ChackJadson>	Like Mace Windu [15:23]	<Ralltiir>	Kill [15:23]	<CavalierOne>	Kill [15:23]	<Cylka>	kill [15:23]	<Graestan>	(link the ones to probe, I'll handle the old ones) [15:23]	<Toprawa>	ok [15:24]	<Graestan>	Death to the Chancellor. [15:24]	<Graestan>	And now, its ugly partner: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Duel_in_the_Senate_(Great_Jedi_Purge)&oldid=2306547 [15:24]	<CavalierOne>	Its treason then? [15:24]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Kill. [15:24]	<Toprawa>	Kill [15:24]	<Graestan>	No change. [15:24]	<CavalierOne>	Kill [15:24]	<Graestan>	Kill! [15:24]	<Cylka>	kill [15:24]	<ChackJadson>	kill [15:24]	<Graestan>	Cylka, I see you already have a taste for killing. [15:25]	<Graestan>	And here: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Duel_on_Roqoo_Depot&diff=2307391&oldid=2306548 [15:25]	<Cylka>	I learned from the best :-P [15:25]	<Toprawa>	if someone would have created a BTS for this, I would keep [15:25]	<Toprawa>	that's all it really needs [15:25]	<Graestan>	Naru fixed the infobox sourcing. [15:25]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Needs the references from the intro removed. [15:25]	<ChackJadson>	I'll do it, Tope [15:25]	<Toprawa>	Keep on Chack's condition, then [15:25]	<Toprawa>	and yes, remove intro sourcing [15:25]	<ChackJadson>	I'll do that too, GMT [15:25]	<CavalierOne>	Ditto [15:25]	<Graestan>	Keep per Toprawa. [15:25]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Keep. [15:26]	<Cylka>	per Tope [15:26]	<ChackJadson>	so keep [15:26]	<Graestan>	Clemency? We are weaklings! [15:26]	<Toprawa>	heh [15:26]	<Graestan>	But Mandos aren't: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Mandalorian_Wars&diff=2334057&oldid=2306551 [15:26]	<Toprawa>	I blame myself :P [15:26]	<Toprawa>	This article is an FA for half-way through [15:26]	<Toprawa>	Then it becomes shite [15:26]	<Toprawa>	Kill [15:26]	<Graestan>	Very little change. [15:26]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Kill the shite. [15:26]	<Graestan>	Also part of Sentry's troll festival of the moment. [15:26]	<Graestan>	Kill. [15:26]	<ChackJadson>	kill [15:26]	<Cylka>	Needs a lot of work. Kill it. [15:26]	<CavalierOne>	Kill [15:27]	<Graestan>	The buck stops here. [15:27]	<Graestan>	Now: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Massacre_at_Ossus&diff=2342609&oldid=2306550 [15:27]	<Toprawa>	looks decent... [15:27]	<Graestan>	Grunny fixed the sourcing. [15:27]	<GrandMoffTranner>	 tag in BTS, though. [15:27]	<Toprawa>	oh wait [15:27]	<Toprawa>	yes, per Tranner [15:28]	<Graestan>	The last fact tag is erroneous. [15:28]	<Toprawa>	Is it? [15:28]	<Graestan>	It is a self-sourcing statement. [15:28]	<Toprawa>	ok [15:28]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Right. [15:28]	<Graestan>	I say keep. [15:28]	<Toprawa>	Well... [15:28]	<Toprawa>	Keep [15:28]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Keep. [15:28]	<Cylka>	Keep. [15:28]	<CavalierOne>	Keep [15:29]	<ChackJadson>	keep [15:29]	<Toprawa>	heh, this next one is a doozy [15:29]	<Graestan>	And now it is time to lay this here ugly list to rest: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=New_Sith_Wars&diff=2324867&oldid=2306555 [15:29]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Kill. [15:29]	<Graestan>	Kill it with fire. [15:29]	<Toprawa>	Kill with fire [15:29]	<Toprawa>	haha [15:29]	<ChackJadson>	kill [15:29]	<Cylka>	Kill [15:30]	<Graestan>	It dies. [15:30]	<Graestan>	Naru appears to have been busy: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Operation%3A_Knightfall&diff=2341978&oldid=2306556 [15:30]	<CavalierOne>	Fire it with kill [15:30]	<Graestan>	What is wrong? [15:30]	<Toprawa>	yeah, I helped Naru get this one to meet MOS [15:30]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Ref in intro, and there are far more sources out there. [15:30]	<Toprawa>	It looks ok, but I haven't read through [15:30]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Operation:_Knightfall [15:30]	<ChackJadson>	It's looks better, but is it enough? [15:30]	<Toprawa>	right, per Chac [15:30]	<Toprawa>	k [15:30]	<Cylka>	I just looked at it. It needs a bit of work with the sourcing. [15:31]	<Toprawa>	does it meet "broad coverage" requirement? [15:31]	<ChackJadson>	The intro is terrible, BTW. It has sourcing and is bascially just a list of possible names for it [15:31]	<ChackJadson>	But that's minor [15:31]	<Toprawa>	there do appear to be a number of unreferences Sources [15:31]	<Toprawa>	the BTS sucks too [15:31]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Needs more work. [15:31]	<Toprawa>	unreferenced* [15:31]	<ChackJadson>	I'm leaning towards kill [15:32]	<Cylka>	Intro doesn't match the article. [15:32]	<Toprawa>	I am, despite a good effort by Naru [15:32]	<GrandMoffTranner>	I say kill. [15:32]	<CavalierOne>	Same [15:32]	<Graestan>	Kill for now. I am sure Naru can work it back up to spec, it's getting there. [15:32]	<Toprawa>	Kill [15:32]	<ChackJadson>	Kill FTW! [15:32]	<Cylka>	Needs too much work. Kill [15:33]	<Graestan>	I tell you it dead. [15:33]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Skirmish_at_Carkoon&diff=2336961&oldid=2306557 [15:33]	<Graestan>	Kill this monstrosity. [15:33]	<ChackJadson>	Kill [15:33]	<Toprawa>	convince me to keep it, Chack :P [15:33]	<ChackJadson>	And yes, it's mine. But it's poor [15:33]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Kill. [15:33]	<Cylka>	Kill [15:33]	<ChackJadson>	I gave up on it :( [15:33]	<Toprawa>	the Sources list needs a lot more, I'd imagine [15:33]	<Toprawa>	I can't believe this isn't referenced in everything...ever :P [15:33]	<Toprawa>	Kill [15:34]	<CavalierOne>	Kill [15:34]	<Graestan>	Boom da gasser, den crashin da boss's heyblibber, den killed! [15:34]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Combined_Clans_Center_Building&oldid=2306558 [15:34]	<Graestan>	No change. Kill. [15:34]	<ChackJadson>	Kill [15:34]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Kill. [15:34]	<Toprawa>	is this the sub-250 word one? [15:34]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Yep. [15:35]	<Toprawa>	Kill [15:35]	<Cylka>	Kill. [15:35]	<CavalierOne>	Kill [15:35]	<Graestan>	I hate Bothans anyway. [15:35]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Exovar%27s_Emporium&diff=2310206&oldid=2306560 [15:35]	<Graestan>	Gonk fixed it up a bit. [15:35]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Looks good enough to keep. [15:36]	<ChackJadson>	Keep [15:36]	<Toprawa>	doesn't really meet LG if we were to assume that location articles are to meet something akin to planet LG standards [15:36]	<Toprawa>	I dislike when we have random section titles [15:36]	<Toprawa>	But that could be cleaned up [15:36]	<CavalierOne>	Keep [15:36]	<Graestan>	I'd say it falls under GA okayness as is, now. Keep. [15:36]	<Cylka>	Keep [15:37]	<Graestan>	If it were FA, though. ROAR! [15:37]	<Graestan>	Tope? [15:37]	<Toprawa>	Ugh, I reluctantly keep, I guess. I think I'm going to work with this one [15:37]	<Graestan>	It's a kept article. Gonk wouldn't mind helping, I bet. [15:37]	<Toprawa>	Just section it more per the LG [15:37]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Fondor&diff=2333050&oldid=2306561 [15:37]	<Graestan>	Very little change. [15:37]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Kill. [15:37]	<Toprawa>	Destroy that planet [15:37]	<ChackJadson>	Kill [15:38]	<Graestan>	I say let the Vong invade. [15:38]	<Cylka>	Kill [15:38]	<CavalierOne>	Kill [15:38]	<Graestan>	Killt. [15:38]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Korriban&diff=2318110&oldid=2306563 [15:38]	<Graestan>	Greatest lead quote evar. [15:38]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Kill. [15:39]	<Graestan>	But still a shite article. Kill. [15:39]	<ChackJadson>	Nuke [15:39]	<Toprawa>	Jehoshaphat system? [15:39]	<Toprawa>	Kill [15:39]	<Cylka>	Korriban scares me. It needs to die. [15:39]	<CavalierOne>	killilty kill [15:39]	<Graestan>	Another shithole of a planet that it appears someone vandalized. http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Ryloth&diff=2318118&oldid=2306564 [15:40]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Kill. [15:40]	* Graestan	storms off to see who removed the tag and ban them [15:40]	<ChackJadson>	Destroy [15:40]	<Toprawa>	I love the non-sourcing. [15:40]	<Toprawa>	Kill [15:40]	<Cylka>	Kill [15:40]	<Graestan>	Ban accomplished. Now we can kill the article. [15:41]	<CavalierOne>	Have to step out for a short while - kill this and Cloak. Accept majority on the other three. Probe all character articles discussed until I get back. [15:41]	<Graestan>	Very well. [15:42]	<Toprawa>	Graestan vote? [15:42]	<Graestan>	Kill! [15:43]	<Toprawa>	I wonder what would happen if we killed an article that's current a FAN? :P [15:44]	<ChackJadson>	XD [15:44]	<Graestan>	The perennial favorite: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Taris&diff=2324782&oldid=2306566 [15:44]	<Toprawa>	currently* [15:44]	<Cylka>	It's missing a lot of infromation. [15:44]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Kill. [15:44]	<Graestan>	Base Delta Zero it. [15:44]	<Cylka>	Kill it. [15:44]	<Toprawa>	Kill [15:44]	<ChackJadson>	Kill [15:44]	<Cylka>	I'll work on it eventually. [15:44]	<Graestan>	Effectively sterilized with turbolaser fire. [15:45]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Taris_dueling_ring&diff=2307705&oldid=2306565 [15:45]	<Graestan>	Fiolli fixed it. [15:45]	<Graestan>	Keep. [15:45]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Keep. [15:45]	<Cylka>	Keep. [15:45]	<Toprawa>	Keepity keep [15:45]	<Toprawa>	this is how I want to see Exovar's laid out, btw [15:45]	<ChackJadson>	Keep [15:46]	<Graestan>	Keepded. [15:46]	<Graestan>	Now for Cylka's Opus: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Telos_IV&diff=2341598&oldid=2306567 [15:46]	<Graestan>	I say keep. [15:46]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Keep. [15:46]	<Graestan>	I looked at it long and hard. [15:46]	<Toprawa>	Are we /allowed/ to kill FANs? :P [15:46]	<Toprawa>	Keep [15:46]	<Graestan>	Yeah, they have no status. [15:46]	<Cylka>	Keep. [15:47]	<Ralltiir>	do I get to vote too? [15:47]	<ChackJadson>	No :P [15:47]	<Graestan>	Probably. [15:47]	<Ralltiir>	I vote kill too [15:47]	<Cylka>	:-P [15:47]	<Graestan>	You're in the minority, Ralltiir lad. [15:47]	<Graestan>	Toprawa, is that your mentally deficient sibling? :P [15:47]	<Toprawa>	We should have taken him out back and shot him a long time ago [15:48]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Cloak_of_Deception&diff=2324800&oldid=2306568 [15:48]	<Graestan>	Great book, bad article. Kill. [15:48]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Kill! [15:48]	<ChackJadson>	Falcon Punch it [15:48]	<ChackJadson>	That means kill :P [15:48]	<Cylka>	Kill. [15:49]	<Toprawa>	Kill, though I wish we had an OOU format for the MOS. [15:49]	<Graestan>	"It was set to stun, I swear!" [15:49]	<Toprawa>	Besides the "Appearances" list [15:49]	<Ralltiir>	oh, am I linking now? [15:50]	<Graestan>	Your turn, Carl from "Sling Blade." [15:50]	<Ralltiir>	Ok, sports fans. [15:50]	* Graestan	eats some French-fried puhtaters [15:50]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Okay, I have to go. My notes are on the meeting page. [15:50]	<ChackJadson>	See ya [15:50]	<Graestan>	Bye Tranner. [15:50]	<Ralltiir>	Now we decide whether to probe these articles for kill-review next meeting. [15:50]	<--|	GrandMoffTranner has left #wookieepedia-agricorps [15:50]	<Cylka>	Bye [15:50]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hermione_Bagwa [15:51]	<Ralltiir>	Unsourced infobox and biography items. No P/T. Everything just seems a little skimpy, especially the BTS. Probably not a huge fix, but it would definitely benefit from someone taking the time to improve this one. [15:51]	<ChackJadson>	Kill this [15:51]	<ChackJadson>	Well, probe [15:51]	<Ralltiir>	Probe. [15:51]	<Graestan>	Probe and replace with the Hermione Granger article from HPW. [15:51]	<Cylka>	Probe. [15:52]	<Ralltiir>	Probed. [15:52]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sio_Bibble [15:52]	<Ralltiir>	4dot fixed this, and it's currently an FAN [15:52]	<Graestan>	Leave it, no bother killing. [15:52]	<Ralltiir>	Keep [15:52]	<ChackJadson>	Keep [15:52]	<Cylka>	Keep [15:52]	<Graestan>	His beard has a reservoir tip. :S [15:53]	<Ralltiir>	Kept [15:53]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Depa_Billaba [15:53]	<Ralltiir>	No sourcing at all [15:53]	<Graestan>	Bibble looks like Socrates from Bill and Ted:http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Bibblemourning.JPG [15:53]	<ChackJadson>	Probe [15:53]	<Graestan>	Probe Depa's ruined mind. [15:53]	<Ralltiir>	Probe [15:53]	<Cylka>	Probe. [15:53]	<Ralltiir>	Probed [15:53]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Buboicullaar [15:54]	<Ralltiir>	Unsourced ref links, was Acky's article, who admits expansion is needed [15:54]	<ChackJadson>	Probe [15:54]	<Graestan>	Probe per Acky the Man Himself. [15:54]	<Cylka>	Probe. [15:54]	<Ralltiir>	Probe [15:54]	<Ralltiir>	Article probed. [15:54]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Xandel_Carivus [15:55]	<Ralltiir>	Xandel Carivus - Unsourced infobox and succession box. Should be easy enough for someone knowledgeable [15:55]	<Graestan>	Probe. Terrible article layout. [15:55]	<ChackJadson>	Probe [15:55]	<Cylka>	Probe. [15:55]	<Graestan>	No P&T [15:55]	<Graestan>	No BtS [15:55]	<Ralltiir>	Probe [15:55]	<Ralltiir>	Article probed. [15:56]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jorus_C%27baoth [15:56]	<Ralltiir>	My page comments: [15:56]	<Ralltiir>	- I think this article does well to exemplify what a "broad-coverage GA" should be. Over 1,000 words, but not enough detail to be an FA. Still, some very minor infobox sourcing issues, and it should have a Powers and Abilities section. [15:56]	<Graestan>	Probe Moses. [15:56]	<ChackJadson>	Probe [15:56]	<Cylka>	Probe. [15:56]	<Ralltiir>	Probe [15:56]	<Ralltiir>	Article probed. [15:56]	<ChackJadson>	I should FA him, to go with Joruus :P [15:57]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chaf%27orm%27bintrano [15:57]	<Ralltiir>	Needs a P/T [15:57]	<ChackJadson>	Probe [15:57]	<Cylka>	Probe. [15:57]	<Graestan>	Formbi deserves a P&T and a real BtS. Probe. [15:57]	<Ralltiir>	unsourced infobox [15:57]	<Ralltiir>	Probe. [15:57]	<Ralltiir>	Article probed. [15:57]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kaleb_Darme [15:57]	<Ralltiir>	no P/T or BTS [15:58]	<Ralltiir>	who does he look like? [15:58]	<Ralltiir>	he reminds me of an actor or something [15:58]	<Graestan>	Probe. [15:58]	<Graestan>	Charlie Sheen. [15:58]	<Ralltiir>	Kind of [15:58]	<Cylka>	Probe [15:58]	<ChackJadson>	Probe him [15:58]	<Ralltiir>	Probed. [15:58]	<Graestan>	He's also apparently dastardly: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:KalebDarme-KellaRand-SWAJ6.png [15:58]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Samhan_Dobo [15:58]	<Graestan>	You skipped Choi? [15:59]	<Ralltiir>	did I? [15:59]	<ChackJadson>	yeah [15:59]	<Ralltiir>	ok [15:59]	<Ralltiir>	rewind [15:59]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tsui_Choi [15:59]	<Graestan>	Give Choi a P&A. Probe. [15:59]	<ChackJadson>	Probe. No improvement [15:59]	<Ralltiir>	Infobox and article sourcing issues. Could use a P/A, I assume [15:59]	<Cylka>	Probe. [15:59]	<Ralltiir>	Probe. [15:59]	<Ralltiir>	Article probed. [15:59]	<Graestan>	Definitely aP&A, he was a good Jedi. [15:59]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Samhan_Dobo [15:59]	<Ralltiir>	Article had unique intro info. [15:59]	<Ralltiir>	Apparently fixed? [16:00]	<Cylka>	Goodwood fixed it. [16:00]	===	#Wookieepedia http://starwars.wikia.com [16:00]	<Ralltiir>	Keep [16:00]	<Ralltiir>	No probe [16:00]	<Cylka>	Keep. [16:00]	=-=	CavalierOne was booted from #wookieepedia-agricorps by YOU (Graestan) [16:00]	<Ralltiir>	but why?! [16:00]	<Graestan>	No probe. [16:00]	<Graestan>	I hate those Dobos. [16:01]	===	You have invited CavalierTwo to #wookieepedia-agricorps. [16:01]	<ChackJadson>	keep [16:01]	-->|	CavalierTwo has joined #wookieepedia-agricorps [16:01]	<Ralltiir>	Article not probed. [16:01]	<Ralltiir>	CavalierTWO [16:01]	<Ralltiir>	*Holy* crap [16:01]	<Ralltiir>	Next up [16:01]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Daultay_Dofine [16:01]	<Graestan>	He just wasn't cavalier enough. [16:01]	<Ralltiir>	4dot definitely fixed this. [16:02]	<ChackJadson>	keep, silly [16:02]	<Ralltiir>	I want to review it. [16:02]	<Graestan>	Keep Dofine. The absentees say keep, too. [16:02]	<ChackJadson>	I just read it. It's excellent, IMO [16:02]	<Ralltiir>	Keep [16:02]	<CavalierTwo>	Keep. [16:02]	<Cylka>	No probe. Keep. [16:02]	<Ralltiir>	Article kept. [16:02]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dorsk_81 [16:02]	<Ralltiir>	Weak sourcing [16:02]	<ChackJadson>	Probe [16:02]	<Graestan>	Fourdot removed the GAcleanup. [16:02]	<Graestan>	:| [16:02]	<Ralltiir>	heh [16:03]	<Ralltiir>	We shall...speak..with him :P [16:03]	<Graestan>	I will. [16:03]	<Graestan>	Probe Dorsk. [16:03]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-agricorps +o CavalierTwo by Graestan [16:03]	<Ralltiir>	that is the worst infobox picture ever, by the way [16:03]	<CavalierTwo>	Probe [16:03]	<Ralltiir>	Probe [16:03]	<Cylka>	Probe. [16:03]	<Ralltiir>	someone apparently removed the tag on that one too [16:03]	<Ralltiir>	no wait [16:03]	<ChackJadson>	No, just wasn't added, I think [16:04]	<Ralltiir>	there was no tag. [16:04]	<Ralltiir>	because it wasn't probed [16:04]	<Graestan>	hahaha [16:04]	<Graestan>	Whoops. [16:04]	<Ralltiir>	haha [16:04]	<Graestan>	Good thing I never jumped the gun. :S [16:04]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Durrei [16:04]	<ChackJadson>	Probe quickly [16:04]	<Graestan>	You skipped Durane. [16:04]	<Ralltiir>	God damnit [16:04]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Giles_Durane [16:05]	<Graestan>	No sourcing on Durane. Probe. [16:05]	<CavalierTwo>	probe [16:05]	<Ralltiir>	No sourcing [16:05]	<Cylka>	Probe. [16:05]	<ChackJadson>	Probe [16:05]	<Ralltiir>	Probe [16:05]	<Ralltiir>	Care to convince us otherwise, Cav? [16:05]	<Ralltiir>	:P [16:05]	<Ralltiir>	Article probed. [16:06]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Durrei [16:06]	<Graestan>	Probe Durrei. No P&A or BtS. [16:06]	<CavalierTwo>	Why would I? Not my article :P [16:06]	<ChackJadson>	Probation for the sucker [16:06]	<CavalierTwo>	Probe [16:06]	<Ralltiir>	Just a formality :P [16:06]	<Cylka>	Really skimpy. Probe. [16:06]	<Ralltiir>	Probe [16:06]	<Ralltiir>	Article probed. [16:06]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Energizer_Bunny [16:06]	<Ralltiir>	This one hurts my soul [16:06]	<Cylka>	I never understood this article. [16:06]	<ChackJadson>	Probe [16:07]	<Ralltiir>	Some really poor speculation and OR. Serious MOS issues. [16:07]	<Graestan>	Bad joke article. Probe. [16:07]	<Cylka>	Probe. [16:07]	<Ralltiir>	it was an old commercial from like 1994 or something [16:07]	<Ralltiir>	I probably would have deleted it on sight as a new creation [16:07]	<Ralltiir>	Probe [16:07]	<Graestan>	Now Pizza Hut Girl, that was a real dame. [16:07]	<CavalierTwo>	Probe. [16:07]	<Ralltiir>	Article probed. [16:07]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Envoy [16:07]	<Ralltiir>	No sourcing. The BTS claims that it is unclear whether she's a Jedi, but the entire article treats her as one. Not so good. [16:08]	<ChackJadson>	Probe [16:08]	<Ralltiir>	(My meeting comments) [16:08]	<Graestan>	Apparently birds need cleavage? Probe. [16:08]	<Ralltiir>	well, duh [16:08]	<Graestan>	Oh, she's a harpy. [16:08]	<Graestan>	But a very agreeable one. [16:08]	<CavalierTwo>	Hey, if trees can have cleavage .... [16:09]	<Ralltiir>	Probe [16:09]	<Cylka>	Probe. [16:09]	<CavalierTwo>	Probe [16:09]	<Ralltiir>	Article probed. [16:09]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Valenthyne_Farfalla [16:09]	<Ralltiir>	Unsourced infobox, paragraph in the bio, succession box. No P/A section. [16:09]	<ChackJadson>	Probe [16:09]	<Cylka>	Probe. [16:10]	<CavalierTwo>	Probe [16:10]	<Ralltiir>	Probe [16:10]	<Ralltiir>	Graestan? [16:10]	<Graestan>	Hang on.... [16:11]	<Ralltiir>	Stay on target... [16:11]	<Graestan>	This is an obnoxious article about how people hapy DK. [16:11]	<Graestan>	hate* [16:11]	<Graestan>	Probe it. [16:11]	<Ralltiir>	Donkey Kong? [16:11]	<Ralltiir>	Article probed. [16:11]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Melvin_Fett [16:11]	<ChackJadson>	Probe. No refs [16:11]	<Ralltiir>	Unnecessary speculative bits that should be cleaned up. [16:11]	<Cylka>	No sourcing. Probe [16:12]	<CavalierTwo>	Probe [16:12]	<Ralltiir>	Probe [16:12]	<Ralltiir>	The sourcing isn't a huge issue, but it's that we're sourcing a speculative statement [16:12]	<Ralltiir>	which makes no sense [16:12]	<Ralltiir>	otherwise, the sourcing is unnecessary [16:12]	<Graestan>	Probe. Not a hard fix. [16:13]	<Ralltiir>	Article probed. [16:13]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Herrit [16:13]	<Ralltiir>	no P/T [16:13]	<ChackJadson>	Probe [16:13]	<Cylka>	probe. [16:13]	<Graestan>	Probe. [16:13]	<Ralltiir>	Probe [16:13]	<CavalierTwo>	Probe [16:13]	<Ralltiir>	Article probed. [16:14]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Irek_Ismaren [16:14]	<ChackJadson>	Probe [16:14]	<Ralltiir>	Lots of relics of a bygone era of article quality. No infobox sourcing, unlinked references, no P/T, no BTS. [16:14]	<CavalierTwo>	Probe [16:14]	<Graestan>	You skipped one again [16:14]	<Ralltiir>	we'll come back to it :P [16:14]	<ChackJadson>	lol [16:14]	<Graestan>	Probe Ismaren. [16:14]	<Ralltiir>	This is what you get for using IE [16:14]	<Ralltiir>	Probe Ismaren [16:14]	<Graestan>	Ismaren could be an FA easily. [16:14]	<Ralltiir>	Yeah [16:15]	<Cylka>	Ismaren - Probe. [16:15]	<Ralltiir>	Article probed. [16:15]	<Ralltiir>	Backtracking... [16:15]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tresk_Im%27nel [16:15]	<Ralltiir>	no P/T or BTS [16:15]	<Graestan>	PROBE [16:15]	<CavalierTwo>	Probe [16:15]	<ChackJadson>	Probe [16:15]	<Cylka>	Probe. [16:16]	<Ralltiir>	Probe [16:16]	<Ralltiir>	Article probed. [16:16]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Shimrra_Jamaane [16:16]	<Graestan>	Shimrra's glittering eyes qualify for Dumbest Shit Ever in the EU [16:16]	<Graestan>	Probe. [16:16]	<Ralltiir>	Apparently DC worked on this one, but Chack wanted to discuss it [16:16]	<ChackJadson>	I'd say probe. [16:16]	<Graestan>	He deserves a P&A, too. [16:16]	<CavalierTwo>	Me too [16:16]	<ChackJadson>	Yeah, I think it could be a /lot/ more comprehensive, even for GA [16:16]	<Ralltiir>	I would abstain only because I don't know, and it appears to meet broad coverage, but on Chack's word I probe [16:17]	<ChackJadson>	I am honored [16:17]	<Ralltiir>	heh [16:17]	<Ralltiir>	Cylka? Care to lawyer this one? [16:17]	<Graestan>	She's mesmerized by his glowing eyes. [16:18]	<Ralltiir>	Article probed then. [16:18]	<Ralltiir>	Next up [16:18]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jin-Jin [16:18]	<Cylka>	I'm not sure. [16:18]	<Ralltiir>	no BTS, but handled [16:18]	<Ralltiir>	as in, now a BTS [16:18]	<Graestan>	Keep Jin-Jin per DC's addition. [16:18]	<Ralltiir>	Keep [16:18]	<CavalierTwo>	Keep [16:18]	<ChackJadson>	keep [16:19]	<Cylka>	Keep [16:19]	<Ralltiir>	Article not probed. [16:19]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/K%27Kruhk [16:19]	<Ralltiir>	serious sourcing issues [16:19]	<Graestan>	Probe him AND his hat. [16:19]	<Ralltiir>	haha [16:19]	<ChackJadson>	What, specifically, Tope? [16:19]	<Ralltiir>	Look through it [16:19]	<CavalierTwo>	Probe him. Leave the hat alone. [16:19]	<Ralltiir>	Whole sections are unsourced [16:19]	<Ralltiir>	Probe [16:20]	<ChackJadson>	Ok. Oh, I see. Probe [16:20]	<Ralltiir>	Cylka? [16:20]	<Cylka>	Probe [16:20]	<Ralltiir>	Article probed. [16:20]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi_impersonator [16:20]	<ChackJadson>	Probe [16:20]	<Ralltiir>	No sourcing, P/T, or BTS [16:21]	<Ralltiir>	he could even have a P/A, in a sense [16:21]	<Cylka>	Probe [16:21]	<Ralltiir>	not a Force-user, but wields faux Force powers [16:21]	<Graestan>	Neat article, but probe per lacking sections. [16:21]	<CavalierTwo>	Probe [16:21]	<Ralltiir>	it's a cool CSW story [16:21]	<Ralltiir>	I would even rewrite this [16:21]	<Ralltiir>	but Probe [16:21]	<Ralltiir>	Article probed. [16:21]	<Ralltiir>	last one [16:21]	<Ralltiir>	special addition to agenda [16:21]	<Ralltiir>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hoth_%28comic%29 [16:22]	<ChackJadson>	Just skip to kill :P [16:22]	<Ralltiir>	I wish we could. [16:22]	<Ralltiir>	Probe [16:22]	<Ralltiir>	not even 250 words, for starters [16:22]	<CavalierTwo>	Probity probe [16:22]	<Graestan>	Probe. Wish we had insta-kill. [16:22]	<Cylka>	How did this end up as a GA? [16:23]	<Cylka>	Probe. [16:23]	<Ralltiir>	lax standards of prehistoric days [16:23]	<Graestan>	I have no idea. [16:23]	<Graestan>	Pre Celebration IV. [16:23]	<Ralltiir>	Article probed. [16:23]	<Ralltiir>	That's concludes the review. [16:24]	<Ralltiir>	Graestan has the floor [16:24]	<Ralltiir>	along with anyone else who wants to discuss anything [16:24]	* Graestan	does the electric boogaloo [16:24]	<CavalierTwo>	BTW, Grae - the timeings for UTC are still screwed up. They're an hour out for me. [16:24]	<Graestan>	I yield the floor to Toprawa, who has the only discussion item. [16:24]	<Graestan>	Cav: I didn't make this meeting page. [16:24]	<Graestan>	I am aware of GMT and Summer Time, etc. [16:25]	<Graestan>	Check the Mofference page to see if I got it right. [16:25]	<CavalierTwo>	Apologies, Grae. [16:25]	<Ralltiir>	I do? [16:25]	<Ralltiir>	oooh yeah [16:25]	<CavalierTwo>	Just thought I'd point it out. [16:25]	<Ralltiir>	Ok. [16:25]	<CavalierTwo>	Ralltiir: Yep. Meeting started at nine pm for me, [16:25]	<Graestan>	Cav: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/WP:M [16:26]	<Ralltiir>	Cav> We'll fix it. [16:26]	<Ralltiir>	We take care of our European brothers :P [16:26]	<Cylka>	Meeting was at ten for me [16:26]	<Ralltiir>	Discussion item 1: [16:27]	<Ralltiir>	At Meeting 1, I believe it was, a discussion was held pertaining to how long a nomination should sit on the page idle, with outstanding objections, before a removal vote can be started. [16:27]	<Ralltiir>	Currently, we have no policy. [16:27]	<Ralltiir>	I propose making a 3-week idle policy along with a notification on the page warning users that their noms are subject to removal after this time if there are outstnading objections not handled [16:27]	<ChackJadson>	3 weeks sounds good to me [16:27]	<Ralltiir>	Granted, we would allow leeway if they're still working on it [16:27]	<Graestan>	I'm so glad the Inq does the beta-testing for us on shit like this. [16:28]	<CavalierTwo>	Notification to the user who's nom it is should also be made. [16:28]	<Cylka>	Three weeks is enough time to show up and do a little work. [16:28]	<Ralltiir>	Cav> To be nice to them, that would be good, but I for one am not going to be hunting down nominators to handle my objections [16:29]	<Ralltiir>	they need to look over their own nominations [16:29]	<CavalierTwo>	Fair enough. I was thinking a template just to put on their talk page saying - its gone if you don't show up type of thing. [16:29]	<Ralltiir>	I would leave a special note on their nomination [16:30]	<Ralltiir>	That's a fair proposal, though [16:30]	<Ralltiir>	Thoughts? [16:30]	<Ralltiir>	To Cav's suggestion, that is [16:30]	<Cylka>	Maybe a notification right before their time is up [16:30]	<Graestan>	At the one-hour mark. :P [16:31]	<Cylka>	But I'm not sure it should be an official policy [16:31]	<Cylka>	10 minutes left [16:31]	<ChackJadson>	We done? [16:31]	<Ralltiir>	as a measure of courtesy, it would be nice, but I still say they need to be active on the GAN page, which should encompass their being aware of a warning left on their nom [16:32]	<Ralltiir>	I think taking it off the page is unnecessary [16:32]	<Cylka>	Fair enough Tope. [16:32]	<Graestan>	Cylka: 10 minutes left of what? [16:32]	<Cylka>	Sorry. I'm trying to handle a couple of kids on the KOTOR page [16:32]	<Ralltiir>	Until we all die, of course [16:32]	<Graestan>	Hahaha [16:33]	<Ralltiir>	So, 3-week length and page disclaimer approved, barring last minute objections? [16:33]	<CavalierTwo>	yep [16:33]	<Ralltiir>	Plus a talk page message if you're nicer than Toprawa :P [16:33]	<Cylka>	Yes [16:33]	<ChackJadson>	Cool [16:33]	<Ralltiir>	Approved. [16:33]	<Ralltiir>	Any last minute concerns? [16:33]	<Ralltiir>	Chack can go, since he looks like he has to pee :P [16:34]	<ChackJadson>	Nah. Just tired of sitting here :P [16:34]	<Ralltiir>	And Graestan has volunteered to be the paperwork pitch, for the record. [16:34]	<Ralltiir>	bitch* [16:34]	<Graestan>	Yo mama. [16:34]	<Ralltiir>	That concludes AC Meeting 5.