Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Battle of Endor (second nomination)

Battle of Endor

 * Nominated by:--ID-21 Dolphin 01:37, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Well, it's here- possibly the greatest moment in the Star Wars saga. I've done some major modifications to this page since the previous nomination: making a longer intro, fixing souurces, and sourcing obscure people and ships. I expect this to be my last major project for a while.--ID-21 Dolphin 01:37, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Eyr

 * We don't do lists. Those will need to be written up. --Eyrezer 01:42, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Which list do you mean?--ID-21 Dolphin 02:09, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Ambitious! I like it.

 * The unsourced, speculative final paragraph of the bts is an absolute no-no and has gotta go-go.
 * Should I search for sources or just delete the whole thing?--ID-21 Dolphin 13:00, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... if you can find some legitimate sources for the statements " Fans known as "film purists" reject all Star Wars material outside the movies, and therefore view the Battle of Endor as the final plot point in the saga." and " George Lucas, who has constantly denied any possibility of any future movies, has affirmed his belief that the saga ends with the death of Anakin Skywalker, since he is the tragic hero.", it would probably be OK and relevant. Menkooroo 13:11, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Deleted some of the unsourced info, and used two external articles and an entry from Leland Chee's blog as sources for the rest. Now the entire paragraph is sourced; you might try reading it again if you want.--ID-21 Dolphin 13:58, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep in mind that you should never strike another's objections. Menkooroo 14:04, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry! I thought I should use the cross-out once I had finished sourcing what others suggested.--ID-21 Dolphin 14:30, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries. I made the same mistake during my first FAN. :^D Menkooroo 14:55, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * A lot of the bts needs sourcing:
 * "it was believed that the Star Wars story had ended with the death of Palpatine and the defeat of the Empire." Believed by who?
 * Removed and rephrased to adhere to the available sources.--ID-21 Dolphin 13:58, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * And... "it still remains a source of strong debate among fans." That kind of statement needs a source.
 * Removed, used only sourcable material.--ID-21 Dolphin 14:48, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * "this theory has been refuted by way of retcons and new explanations" --- Which retcons? Source it, baby!
 * Addressed.--ID-21 Dolphin 14:48, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * "both games are considered non-canon." needs a source.
 * "Lucasfilm Ltd. has stated that the 2004 DVD versions are the canonical depiction of the events in the trilogy," --- where did they state it?
 * Sourced from the Starwars.com blogs.--ID-21 Dolphin 15:00, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Some of the bts info seems a bit extraneous. The Ewoks' fan popularity might be relevant to the Ewok article, but probably not to the battle of endor article. "The story after Endor" could probably be trimmed down quite a bit, too.
 * Took care of the Ewok issue, and consolidated "the story after Endor".--ID-21 Dolphin 15:26, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * There are a whole bunch of other ccg cards that will need to be added to the source list. Comb through and, and don't forget "picture only"!
 * Have you checked through every source in the source list? I notice some missing ones, too, such as The Movie Trilogy Sourcebook. You should check them all if you haven't.
 * There are 36 sources to Death Star II Limited... but you'll have to source the individual cards.
 * I'm not sure about the value of the "Participants" section. I don't think any other Battle FA's have it. Menkooroo 01:51, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Some have it. However, as Eyr said, the list needs to be turned into text, with emphasis on each person's individual contribution to the battle. QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 07:30, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * The problem isn't the commanders- the guys like Han Solo, Luke Skywalker, Palpatine, etc. It's just that since there are so many soldiers who have been named in card games, novels, or the like, they have to be referenced somewhere, and this seems like the best place. Abd trust me, I've thought it over many times, and I haven't found a better solution.--ID-21 Dolphin 13:00, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * If you really want to have a list of participants, please do a list like this. -- 1358  (Talk) 13:07, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, a battle article doesn't need to list every known participant. If their role in it warrants a mention in the narrative, that's OK, but if not, their involvement can be left out. Menkooroo 13:11, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll see. I won't work on that until I'm done addressing the unsourced info and unreferenced sources. Then, I'll probably follow your advice and write about nine or ten main particpants total.--ID-21 Dolphin 14:04, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * An account of the ROTJ Infinities Battle of Endor is in order for the bts. :^) Menkooroo 13:11, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll do it soon.--ID-21 Dolphin 14:04, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Written and sourced.--ID-21 Dolphin 15:19, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Xd1358

 * Great idea for an FA. You have some broken references; please fix them. -- 1358  (Talk) 13:19, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Examples please??--ID-21 Dolphin 13:51, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ref number 73 and 75; Battle of Endor. -- 1358  (Talk) 14:05, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed.--ID-21 Dolphin 14:35, September 6, 2010 (UTC)