Talk:Obi-Wan Kenobi/Legends

Lightsaber debate section
This section needs to clarify what Clone Wars animated series is being referred to, as all the The_Clone_Wars_(TV_series) images I see that show Kenobi's lightsaber look like his Episode III/"final" design one. The ones in Star_Wars:_Clone_Wars however do look like the Episode I and II model. I'm doing more research on the CGI series to see if he's ever had the older model saber. -- Kathkira talk  17:12, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Death Star
How did Obi's lightsaber survive the destrcution of the Death Star if it was blown up? Even lightsabers can not withstand that blastNarnian 02:24, 12 June 2008 (UTC) the article states "Kenobi's lightsaber lay in Lord Vader's quarters during the Battle of Yavin. This fragment of the Death Star was eventually acquired by Ugors and transported to the Paradise Sector." where did you read that vader had it on him? -- Jedi Master Ralph 16:59, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * AFAIK, Vader kept it with him. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 11:58, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Why Can't I edit???????????????

 * Okay...I am serverly flipped off right now. I have seen and remember so much of the new clone wars movie, and have so much I could add..........BUT I CAN'T FLIPPING EDIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!74.186.151.239 22:02, 8 September 2008 (UTC).
 * Have you tried making an account? - Milo Fett [Comlink] 22:14, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The page is protected. Master Smart

why doesn't he remember?
In episode IV, Obi says he doesnt remember owning any droids. how could he not remember R2 and C3PO when he served with them for years, i dont buy he doesnt remember because of old age? Yeah, and also they were not even his at all in his life, they were Anakins. *gasp* then who is their rightful owner? And also, I think this is for the article not to "discuss the character."--Tahlismyhero 22:46, 12 November 2008 (UTC)tahlismyhero
 * This talk page is for discussing the article, not the character.  Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing  ( Oya Manda! ) 03:21, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * He's just wondering about a possible inconsistency. Anon, Jedi don't technically "own" anything. - Milo Fett [Comlink] 00:24, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Force Power
I have noticed some of Kenobi's most powerful force talents are missing. We should add Force repulse, as well as the ability to deflect projectiles, flame and blaster bolts using only his hands. All of these talents were exhibited in the battle for Muuninlist, during Kenobi's face off against Durge.

Okay, I'm putting this under Force Power as not to spam up the discussion board. I was wondering if anyone would disagree to me cleaning up Obi-Wan's Powers and Abilities section by putting it in a list style, like Luke's or many of the other Jedi on Wookiepedia. I think it would make the section much easier to understand and navigate. If anyone disagrees to this let me know and I'll let it go. I don't want to start an edit war. Otherwise, I'll go ahead and get started within a couple days. Thanks guys.
 * Actually, we prefer organized paragraphs over lists, if you look at our FAs. Atarumaster88  Jedi_Order.svg ( Talk page ) 02:33, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That's completely fine. I was just wondering. But then why do most of the other Jedi pages have their abilities in list format? -X ManofSteel X
 * Well, that's I suppose our fault for not having them all up to snuff as they should be. That said, if you look at our FAs, the ones that count are in prose. For example, Mara Jade Skywalker is probably one of our best (and longest) Jedi FAs. Atarumaster88  Jedi_Order.svg ( Talk page ) 18:14, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi guys. I saw recently in the Force Absorption page that it says Obi-Wan absorbed Force Lightning with his bare hands sometime in his life. Does anyone know if that's true and when it happened? Because if it is I'd like to add this feat under his Powers and Abilities section. Absorbing lightning is a pretty awesome accomplishment. Thanks guys. -Heart of theForce
 * According to the notes and references, Obi-Wan used Force absorption in the RotS video game. Since no other source contradicts this, it is considered C-canon. I see no reason why it shouldn't be added. Axinal  Convocation Chamber 17:16, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm, can't edit due to the page being protected. Anyway to get around that? Or do I have to go through someone with higher authority? -HeartoftheForce
 * I'm not sure. I thought anyone with an account could edit a semi-protected page, but you might have to have a certain number of edits. I can probably get around to adding it at some point. Also, remember to use four tildes ( ~ ) to sign your posts. Cheers! Axinal  Convocation Chamber 19:11, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey man, I appreciate it. I could write it up and post it here and then you could post it if that's cool. Just let me know. Thanks brother. Oh and I'm still not quite sure how the post signing works exactly...sorry about that. -Heart of the Force
 * Happy to help. As I don't have the RotS video game, I wasn't able to be very specific, but I did mention that he could use Force absorption, and referenced it accordingly. If you see anything else you think should be added, let me know. No problem with the signing thing; just write out four of these guys: ~. This will automatically create a link to your user page, as well as the time and date of your post. Axinal  Convocation Chamber 23:39, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks brother! I rewrote up Obi-Wan's power and abilities section, adding what I thought was missing. I posted it on your talk page I hope you don't mind. You can delete it whenever you want to and change whatever you see fit. Obi-Wan's a huge hitter in the Star Wars franchise so I thought his abilities should be even more elaborated on. Thanks again man. You're a big help with this. Heart of the Force 00:50, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem, glad I could help. The powers and abilities section looks great. Axinal  Convocation Chamber 01:01, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes I agree that it definitely does. But take a look at what I put on your talk page and see if you like any of it. I just added bits and pieces but maybe you can find something in it to incorporate into the page. Heart of the Force 01:17, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep, I saw it.. It looks good. I've made an edit to that section of the article. I incorporated most of what you put in, with a few of my own variations. I didn't get them all, though. I'll have to take another look at some point in the future to get the rest of it. Axinal  Convocation Chamber 01:40, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Awesome, thanks bro for taking the time. Just checked out what you put up and it looks great. Heart of the Force 02:12, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

My Obi-Wan Theory
Is it possible that when Kathy Tyers wrote The Truce at Bakura she (under supervision) decided to write Kenobi's spirit off for the rest of the expanded universe thereafter in order to avoid any grief from actor Alec Guiness whom grew annoyed by his portrayal and since wanted nothing to do with Star Wars anymore? korydvandyke 14:15, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It is possible. But this talk page is not a place for such discussions. Cheers. QuiGonJinn The ability to speak does not make you intelligent.Quigonheadshot.jpg 19:20, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Death
Obi-Wan didn't die - he learned the path to immortality. Just as Qui-Gon, Yoda, and even Anakin (but not Palps - LOL) did. On the Death Star he changed form, he didn't die. Sithlord122681
 * 1) Death is defined as: to pass from physical life and lose all bodily attributes and functions necessary to sustain life. I'm pretty sure turning into a Force Ghost would pretty much fit into that description. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 08:20, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) How about changing it to "changed form" or "ended physical life" or something like that? Because immortals cannot die. User:AHS0KA
 * 3) Actually Palpy did learn the path to immortality. He actually came back to life twice. Sithlord122681 03:34, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

obi has a brother
did you know that in the novelization of star wars the return of the jedi when ob i wan appears to luke on dagobah he tells luke the owen larrs is his brother which if you think about it that means that obi wan is luke's uncle by marriage interesting isn't it
 * It is already noted in the article.
 * It has been retconned. Owen Lars isn't his brother. His brother is another Owen.
 * Sign your username using four tildes. QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force...Quigonheadshot.jpg 21:41, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

How do you work that out? --Lupin &amp; Kingsley 15:04, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No. Owen Lars is Luke's brother.69.154.214.235 21:38, 24 June 2009 (UTC) Master Smart

ok i dont get it
ok when luke is on hoth and obi wan appears to him he says to go to dagobah because yoda is there and he will teach him and that he (obi wan) was taught by yoda but we find out that qui gon jin acctually tached him so whats up with that?
 * Yoda taught Obi-Wan while he was a youngling. When Obi-Wan was thirteen he was taken as a padawan by Qui-Gon. It is explained in the article. I suggest you to read it before asking any more questions. QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force...Quigonheadshot.jpg 21:59, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

ok
ya thats what i thought i was just checking sorry

Don't start a new section when responding to someone! It's like spam, especially considering all of the questions you've been asking without even looking at the article. And as people have said before, sign posts, if you've got a name. If you don't, either stop asking questions, look at the article, or get a name to use for editing. 69.205.62.182 03:51, 28 January 2009 (UTC)I, however, don't have a name, because I don't like coming here as an editor.

My Favourite Character
He is my favourite character because the actor is Ewan McGregor - BAZZ -


 * He's one of my favorite characters, too, but I'm afraid the talk page isn't for discussing things like that. It is only for what's relevant to the actual article, not whatever the article is about.  I hope that makes sense.  Qui-Gon Reborn   Enter the realm of the fifth dimension...  Jedi_symbol.svg 11:03, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Anyone?
Does anyone other than me object to the fact that Qui-gon is referred to as elderly in Obi-wans article? 'the elderly Jedi had been exhausted by the lengthy duel' It just doesn't agree with me. He may have been 60 but he was in perfect shape and there are other jedi who are older that aren't referred to as elderly. Darra 23:45, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Image I think we should change the main image into a pic of him in his prime.DarthJudicar1998

Image
I think we should change the main image into a pic of him in his prime.DarthJudicar1998
 * While not a site's policy, it is generally accepted to use the image of a character's last known appearance as a main pic. The only exception seems to be Anakin, but there was a long debate over it. QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force...Quigonheadshot.jpg 10:03, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Height
Obi-Wan Kenobi is listed as 179 cm, while Jango Fett is listed as 183 cm. How come in Attack of the Clones, Obi-Wan seemed to be taller than Jango when they were standing next to each other?--MegaLink08 05:39, 15 March 2009 (UTC)MegaLink08 it could of been obi`s boot`s
 * It could have simply been a height issue with the actors, but I don't know the "official" answer to that question. -- CC7567 [ http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/5/5f/Rex.png/20px-Rex.png] talk 05:42, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

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"One day, Jedi Master Qui-Gon Jinn visited the Jedi Temple in the hopes of finding an apprentice." This sentence is not entirely true. Qui-Gon did not hope to find another apprentice, it was more like he was forced to attend the matches. It was only a rumor that Qui-Gon was in fact looking for an apprentice. There is a difference. Also, there is no mention of the events in Secrets of the Jedi.

Lightsaber Hilt
I'm not quite sure if this is surely canon, but Obi-wan's lightsaber hilt is seen in the hands of other people. The cover of Secrets of the Jedi has Siri Tachi with the same lightsaber hilt that Obi-wan has in the picture. And stranger still Atris has Obi-wan's lightsaber on the cover of KOTOR2! Atris is never seen using this lightsaber during the actual game.

Organic beings
Towards the end of the article, it says that Obi Wan and Anakin are the only organic beings to appear in all 6 movies, but Palpatine/Darth Sidius is in each movie.--70.180.59.225 13:25, September 13, 2009 (UTC)
 * Except ANH, hence he's not in every movie. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 13:26, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Legendary?
Does the blurb at the beginning saying he was a "legendary" Jedi Master fall under NPOV? I noticed it was recently removed as such, despite being on several other articles. Since a lot of people are canonically known to have heard of him ("The Negotiator"), does this really count? — Milo Fett [Comlink] 13:57, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Clone Armour
On the third line of the section on "promotions" it says that, "Kenobi was also known to wear parts of Phase I clone trooper armor along with a Jetpack and a Clone Trooper Helmet". I was unaware he wore a helmet,(no matter how personalised it was), naturally I am going to take this oppertunity to ask if the user who added that information is sure it is correct. In addition the only time I am aware of that he wore/used a jetpack was in season 1 episode 11 of the cartoon Star Wars: The Clone Wars, (Dooku Captured). Therefore I think, "Kenobi was also known to wear parts of Phase I clone trooper armor and on occasion a jet pack" would be a more accurate phrasing.--81.129.55.33 14:13, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * If I recall correctly, he wore a clone helmet for a short time in the original Clone Wars TV series, which is also where he was first shown wearing clone armor. — Milo Fett [Comlink] 18:05, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for ansewering my question. --86.142.138.65 18:25, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Last stand against Lord Starkiller
In the Ultimate Sith edition of The Force Unleashed, Obi-Wan faced off against a powerful Sith Lord, who had killed Obi Wan's former apprentice, Darth Vader. Obi Wan confronted the Sith Lord as Starkiller was about the enter the Millenium Falcon. Obi-Wan drew his saber, and tol the apprentice he could not allow him to board the Falcon. A fierce duel ensued between the aged Jedi and the younger Lord, who had been waiting for the opportunity to meet Obi Wan in person. Obi Wan was rapidly overpowered by the Sith Lord who stabbed him in the chest, a wound Obi Wan might had survived, if Lord Starkiller hadn't thrown Obi Wan into the engines of the Millenium Falcon.

Confident in the death of another Jedi, Starkiller again walked up to the Falcon, where he was ambushed by the spirit of Obi-Wan Kenobi. After a few slashes, the Dark Lord learned that the ghost of Obi-Wan was immune to saber attacks, and used the force to blast Obi-Wan's spirit with lighnting, eventually destroying Kenobi's ghost. With Obi Wan dstroyed, Lord Starkiller turned to see the Falcon taking off, and jumped up to the Falcon, planting a tracking beacon on the Falcon's hull.

The Obi-Wan page seems to be locked, so if someone could pop this in, that would be great. Have a good day. 129.3.150.11 23:49, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Fate of Kenobi's saber in ANH?
Presumably Kenobi's saber was destroyed when the first Death Star was destroyed but do we know this for a fact? Have their ever been any EU stories about this? I guess it could only have survived if Vader had it with him when he went out in his TIE fighter which seems unlikely. Thoughts?I don't know if anything about it needs to be added into the article but I was curious what happened to it. --DannyBoy7783 03:56, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * It's in the article if you would bother to look. It was in Vader's starfighter and Anakin Solo ended up getting it in 22 ABY.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 04:03, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * As far as specific sources go, I think this was first brought up in Kenobi's Blade, and then it was confirmed that he carried the lightsaber with him in his fighter in The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader. — Milo Fett [Comlink] 04:07, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

Timeline?
Pardon me for asking, but aren't some of the descriptions of Obi-Wan's exploits written out of chronological order? Most of his feats that appear on the Clone Wars television show occur in 22 BBY, yet the section regarding Siri Tachi's death in 20BBY is placed before the sections regarding the television show. Is there a particular reason for this? If no, are there any objections to placing the "Loss of an old friend" section to right before the "Outer Rim Sieges" section? 147.9.180.113 16:22, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Until there's an official timeline for the new order of Clone Wars events, there's no really preferred order for placing events in chronological order in articles, except where a work couldn't possibly come before/after the show (because of first meeting a character, character death, and so on), and even then it borders on speculation. Since Anakin's a Padawan in that source, it would have to come before the show, so the placement should probably stay, but the 20 BBY date could be removed. — Milo Fett [Comlink] 17:12, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Kenobi's Image
is there any chance of possibly changing the image from the one of Alec Guiness to one of Ewan McGregor just people could see what he was like in his prime? --Jkirk8907 18:02, January 29, 2010 (UTC)Jkirk8907
 * I think that would be a good idea, but I don't have the authority to do so.66.103.114.152 00:12, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * This has been discussed higher up on the talk page. Wookieepedia prefers images of characters in their last chronological film source; thus, Obi-Wan in ANH, Luke in RotJ, Padme in RotS, etc. Axinal  Convocation Chamber 17:28, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Obi-Wan Kenobi's Lightsaber
According to the Visual Dictionary of Attack of the Clones and the Ultimate Guide to Star WArs Characters and Creatures. Obi wan had two lightsabers. The first he used during episodes 2 and 3 the one with the sphere thingy on the end as a power cell. THe second in episode 4, against Darth Vader. However, what about episode 1? He had a lightsaber in which he fought Darth Maul. Qui-Gonn died. Maul throws Obi-wans's lightsaber into the pit thing. Obi-wan force jumps and grabs Qui-Gonn's lightsaber and kills Maul. So if he never got the lightsaber that fell in the pit back (We know this because no one recovered Maul's body so they obviously never went down there to get his lightsaber) how does he only have two lightsabers? If Lucas or anything explained this please let me know. Thoth19 01:59, March 9, 2010 (UTC)Thoth19

Lightsaber (answer)
Well, Obi-Wan had the same ligtsaber throughout Ep. 2-4. Ep. 1, his lightsaber fell and got Qui-Gonn's lightsaber. --Alexyodaross 02:14, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

editing
how come i can't edit? i want to add a quote. the quote on the page Sweet-sand cookie. i want it right before the last paragraph of the battle of christophsis section. thanks!!!66.42.173.161 15:38, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * The page is semiprotected, which means only registered users can edit it. Quotes are usually entered just after the header, not within a section. -- 1358  (Talk) 16:42, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

So... What did happen to Kenobi's lightsaber in ANH?
Did Vader take it? Did he destroy it? Anybody here know?
 * If you read a few subjects up, "Fate of Kenobi's saber in ANH," you'd see the answer. Vader keeps it and Anakin Solo later recovers it.  Arashi 01:35, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

I need help! ima new!
ok ima researching obi-wan, and i stumble here can i have some help?

Affair with Satine Kryze
What canon states that Obi-Wan had an actual affair with the Dutchess? I haven't read much where she is mentioned, but I don't remember anyone stating that they had an affair in the Clone Wars episode.