Talk:Adas

16.000 B.B.Y.?
Source on date? I've never heard anything about it. --Master Starkeiller 02:27, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Here's what Star Wars Timeline Gold says: "16,000 BSW4 - Adas, a Sith warlord, conquers his homeworld. (conjecture based on Star Wars: The Roleplaying Game—“Tales of the Jedi Companion”)"-LtNOWIS 01:54, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Then I trust it. --Master Starkeiller 01:59, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * He'll have to be reconciled somehow now though, considering the Jedi-Sith split occurs at 7,000 BBY. QuentinGeorge 06:52, 25 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Still think we should just throw out the NEC, but that train has left the station. On the subject of Adas, from my understanding, it says that he is a Sith who used the dark side of the Force, but does that neccessarily make him a Sith Lord as we traditionally define them? -- SFH 22:48, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Are there any pics of Adas? Was he a red-skinned Sith?  If so, he could be an indigenous Sith before the Dark Jedi merger.
 * The Unofficial Star Wars Encylopedia

http://www.theforce.net/swenc/entrydesc.asp?search=892

says that Adas was the gatekeeper of the holocron that King Ommin owned so that would make him at least force capable and holocrons are the product of Jedi so I think the pre-dark jedi theory is out the window. However, that same article says that he was around 28000 BBY. That doesn't even meld with the previous Sith Empire timeline.
 * The actual source (Tales of the Jedi Companion) has Ood Bnar saying Adas lived "More than two dozen millennia ago", note that this date is third-hand information from an in-universe source that have been proven wrong in many other ways. The easiest thing to do is simply say that Bnar was wrong in this case. Charlii 17:44, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Merge with "Red-Armored Dark Lord"
New Article reveals all about Adas, including him being the previousley mysterious Dark Lord --Sauron18 22:48 22 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Such a revelation!? Can you please provide the details for those who does not have their hands on the new stuff? Darth Kevinmhk 03:50, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I put a basic summary over at the tfn board, if you want the broader view (missed a few things), but relating Adas, I'll put two quotes relevant:


 * "Ruling nearly 3,000 years before the rise of the Galactic Republic, King Adas was a massive, regal being encased in majestic ebon warrior armor. Raised from his youth as a chosen being due to the charcoal pigment of his skin, Adas demonstrated great intelligence, fighting prowess, and a tremendous aptitude for Sith magic. With his alchemically forged battle-ax, Adas led the bloody unification of Korriban's disparate nations and became its undisputed world ruler. The Sith people came to believe that King Adas was immortal and that his reign would be eternal."


 * "In fact, Adas was almost three hundred years old and had earned the title Sith'ari (meaning "the Lord" or "overlord") when alien invaders came to Korriban. Misshapen Force-sensitive beings, these Rakatan soldiers of the so-called Infinite Empire first attempted to lull King Adas into their confidence by teaching him how to record his essence into a pyramidal, magical device called a holocron. But the Rakata soon showed their true colors and tried to conquer the Sith people. But even at that ripe age, the Sith King refused to go quietly and introduced the invaders to his oversized axe and the unconquerable will of his people. The dark siders were defeated, but the king gave his life to secure the Sith's freedom. "
 * Must have misread then. Well theres the info anyways --Sauron18 23:20 22 June 2006 (CDT)

I think that's all I can put, no? Since it's hyperspace? --Sauron18 22:54 22 January 2006 (CDT)
 * That doesn't say he's the Red-armored lord. In fact, it says he has ebon armor, which is specifically not red. - Lord Hydronium 04:03, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * He's very specifically not the Red-armored Sith lord...Red was one of the Dark Jedi who came to Korriban much later, whereas Adas is one of the very first Sith. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 04:09, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank the Maker

 * Abel's new article has fixed up all Adas' contradictory history. W00t! QuentinGeorge 06:18, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Adas looks like a Viper pilot from the original BSG. Kuralyov 07:50, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Is there anything other than the black armor identifying that picture? That is a lightsaber, not an axe. And if i remember correctly the caption is "and some of them, I'm afraid to say, were jedi". Charlii 07:56, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Aside from it being an armor basically identical to the one described, a time period identical, and coming from the same source (Ood Bnar's Holocron) seems to point out that this is Adas. It would be extremely coincidential if it wasn't, but we're going for an "innocent until proven guilty" sort of thing, since in all probability it is him. --Sauron18 03:38 23 June 2006 (CDT)
 * "time period identical"? Ok, both lived before 4000BBY... The fact that this black knight is described as a Jedi and has a lightsaber does make it very improbable that he is Adas, as far as I'm concerned. Charlii 08:59, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * He is "described as a Jedi" by someone who cannot possibly be expected to know the entirety of Adas' actual life. QuentinGeorge 09:04, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I say we leave it and label it like we labelled Xendor's. --Sauron18 04:07 23 June 2006 (CDT)
 * Able said, over at TFN Lit, that he didn't intend the image to be Adas, as well as agreeing that it's possible, but highly unlikely to be him. I'd say we remove it. Charlii 14:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
 * That bub just can't be Adas. Wielding a lightsaber, with a defeated Human crawling behind him, a frickin' blaster holstered around his waist, signs of advanced technology all over the place, and an armor that doesn't exactly qualify as pitch-black it shouldn't even be in the behind the scenes section. --Master Starkeiller 15:25, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, he said he didn't think it could be, but he didn't create Adas, remember he was originally mentioned in the TOTJ companion, and the author did reference him as a black armoured Lord from Ood Bnar's Holocron. It could have been based on that guy.Remember that the TOTJ comics were inaccurate during their first year, the Sith were human for example. The only real source that can confirm or deny is the author behind TOTJ Companion. --Sauron18 14:15 30 June (CDT)

Homeworld
Since one of the pages purtaining to Adas and the Sith says that after his death, the Sith relocated to Ziost, shouldn't Korriban be Adas' homeworld? User:RushinSundaws 1:47 30, June 2006

Source for Statement
Abel told us at TFN after asking him if he based the character on that image. But he told us that he hadn't actually created the character as much as taken info from the TOTJ companion and added a little bit, and that he himself had not based anything on any piece of artwork.

Abel said he personally doesn't see that as Adas, because of the lightsaber, but that's just his opinion. Either way, the lightsaber is not as important, because TOTJ had a lot of visual discrepancies (Sith being Human, etc..) that have since being ignored. It is just Abel's opinion, but he also said that since it's a comic that specific thing (lightsaber) can be ignored.

Nevertheless, this does not eliminate the possibility of that being Adas, since the author of the companion may have indeed based Adas on him, so unless he tells us it's still worthy of mentioning the fact that both Adas and someone who sounds remarkably like him appear from the same source at the same time.

So unless the author of the Companion or someone who definetley knows tells us whether or not that character was based on Adas (or vice versa), we should keep the picture in there. --Sauron18 15:21 03 July 2006 (CDT)
 * I disagree. Apart from beeing darksiders, Adas (as described in the TotJC) has no similarities, so it's very unlikely that the author thought of that picture when he wrote Adas. There are others in the book who would fit better. And it is perfectly imposible to retcon them into one person because of the visual errors. Face it, the black clad figure is described as a former Jedi, has a human at his feet and a lightsaber in his hand, and he is also from a holocron that's very unlikely to contain Adas image. Charlii 20:36, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I haven't read the companion, but from what I heard they established Adas had black armor in there? That alone could have been based on the picture, and when you think back on the times, they could be the same. It doesn't matter if that's a human behind him, look at Marka Ragnos and Naga Sadow the first time they appeared, both they and their followers were quite human. The lightsaber could also easily be one of these things. The point is, what we see in the comic is a Dark Sider With Black armor from Ood Bnar's holocron (remember, it's his view). What we hear in the companion, from Ood Bnar's holocron, is that Adas was a dark sider in black armor. It's similar enough IMO.

Black Armor aside, the fact that both come from the same source and look similar seems to be good enough to at least mention. The possibility exists until it is officially confirmed or denied. --Sauron18 15:42 03 July 2006 (CDT)
 * Just so you know, the olny physical description of Adas from the TotJC is "clad in spiked armor and wearing a silver circlet atop his head", both which the figure in this image does not. Charlii 11:20, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Much as some seem to discount the lightsaber in the picture, the fact that Adas died over twelve thousand years before even the most primitive lightsabers were created does, in fact, disqualify him from being the person depicted in it. 71.203.209.0 06:10, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Statement in need of varification
''Around 3,990 BBY, his Sith holocron was uncovered by Queen Amanoa of Onderon, who learned all the stored secrets. The holocron was then passed to her apprentice Novar to teach Sith initiates. The Gatekeeper of Adas's holocron, however, had an unique personality that it could turn down the user's request or even threaten its user. ''

What is the source for this? -  Angel Blue (Holonet) 19:17, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Tales of the Jedi Companion Charlii 15:47, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * But queen Amanoa died in 4000 BBY so the date must be wrong... Rouge77

What happened to the picture?
What happened to that picture of Adas where he stood in black armor with some kind of lightsaber?
 * That wasn't Adas. - Lord Hydronium 11:47, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah. Who was that?
 * Dunno. Some dark side user.  But the only thing he has in common with Adas is the color of his armor. - Lord Hydronium 11:50, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Then we should probably also remove the "Xendor" picture....--Sauron18 19:06, 17 February 2007 (UTC)