User talk:Jediknight19bby/Archive 1

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Your edit to Administrators
You aren't an administrator: please don't claim otherwise. Thanks, &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 03:17, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Userpage
Please not that your userpage is not supposed to beyour primary source of edits, as dictated by User page policy. -- SFH 00:43, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Warning
17:17, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Stop putting banned tags on users that have not been banned, or you yourself will get banned. -- SFH

Don't you threaten me Jediknight19BBy. I did nothing except the truth. You ARE allowed to type on the articles about things that happened, or facts. Oh, and if you ban me, Im gonna be real pissed. And you don't like to see a Grey when He's pissed. Mr. Nonadministrator jackass.

Voting
Be sure that when you vote, you place your name at the bottom of the list, not the top. If you look at them, you'll see that the votes are in chronological order from oldest to newest that way. -- Ozzel 19:40, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Fanon
QuentinGeorge 04:36, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Editing archives

 * Please note that all of Consensus Track discussions that are archived clearly state in big red text not to edit them. They are preserved for our records only and are not active. Therefore, do not change any more archived files please. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:11, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what you're talking about. Jediknight19bby 19:46, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You added a vote here, where the vote was already over, hence the "The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it." -- Ozzel 20:37, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry. I didn't see that. Jediknight19bby 16:38, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Problems
Do not remove FA nominations. I see this is far from the first warning you've gotten. You aren't going to get many more of them. Kuralyov 16:51, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Then someone on the Inq. should. Ephant Mon needs much more user dedication and hard work to become a featured article. It should be an improvement drive, how about that? Jediknight19bby 16:53, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * If other users and/or the Inquisitorious don't think the article is good enough for FA, then it will never make it anyway. A nomination is far from a guarantee that it will become an FA. -- Ozzel 19:24, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

The Point of Wookieepedia
Please stop lying and annoying other users. You do not know James Luceno and you are not an administrator of Wookieepedia. Please refrain from adding Fanon articles to this wiki (e.g.Founding Jedi), and, if it gets deleted, do not start winging about your edit count. Also, please do not nominate FA nominations for the improvement drive, and please do not remove FA nomination tags from articles. Also, please state the reason for your opposition to an FA nomination. Also, as I am the person behind Ephant Mon's FA, please tell me which section needs expanding. (this may as well be a rhetorical question as I severly doubt you have any knowledge of the EU) AdmirableAckbar 15:49, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It should have a prelude in the beginning about when he met young Jabba the Hutt, and their exploits before they interfered with Jedi business by kidnapping Ki-Adi Mundi's daughter. Besides, that Darth Plagueis book was being written by someone who is not a Star Wars author but I do know. The Founding Jedi are as much canon as the Jedi Order are, just we don't have a real name for them. If you want to complain, complain to Ozzel, the admin who helped me out with the Founding Jedi page. Jediknight19bby 17:26, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
 * obviously the founding jedi do exist, however they have never featured in a canon storyline or source, therefore are fanon. If the darth plauegius novel was being written by someone who is not a star wars writer then it is fanon. What source documents Ephant' exploits with Jabba pre-Cerea? I'm almost certain there are none, at least not with anything more specific than "Ephant and Jabba smuggled and generally were criminals together". But, if you know of such a source (and a real one at that, not one being written by your friend), please tell me of it. Also, as i'm sure you know, this is a wiki, and can be edited by anyone, so if you feel the article is missing something, feel free to add it (if it's Canon) AdmirableAckbar 20:14, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

sorry and thanks
thanks for helping with the Ephant Mon article. Any other help is much appreciated. Sorry for seeming harsh with my earlier comments, i was just frustrated that you nominated Mon for the ID, as I have been putting in a lot of work on ot lately. Once again, sorry and thanks AdmirableAckbar 15:36, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You are forgiven. I guess I shouldn't have pulled it as a nom, it does have potential. I don't know what I was thinking, probably because I was frustrated with the Jedi Order page, and still nobody was supporting all the work I did on that page. In fact, I'm going to delete my opposition to Mon's page and make it support. Jediknight19bby 19:52, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * thanks. once again, i'm sorry for seeming so pissed off. AdmirableAckbar 19:55, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: References
Hey, check out this link → Sourcing to learn about how and when to reference in an article. If you need an example, just check out any FA. Cheers, Greyman ( Paratus ) 22:17, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Jediknight19bby 17:10, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Jedi Order
As an Inquisitorius, it is my job to monitor the FA nom page. Despite the work and improvements you have made to the page, it is far too short to fulfill its potential. As I said on its Inq page, I deleted it after 10 days without any significant activity. I stand by this decision. --Eyrezer 07:22, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Jedi Order Help
if you like, i can help you with the Jedi Order a bit AdmirableAckbar 18:14, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not the best at referencing, and, with the work you did on Ephant Mon, I think that the Jedi Order can be a good article in no time. There isn't a lot to source, since there's only a little bit that we can do, since the opening paragraphs and the list of notable members cover nearly half of it. I guess I could use your help. Thanks. Jediknight19bby 18:58, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help. Jediknight19bby 20:44, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You want me to apologise. Tough luck. &#123;&#123;SUBST:User:Jasca Ducato/Sig}} 20:53, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * calm down both of you. jediknight19bby, i doubt that Jasco Ducato realised i had made edits other than the pics. Jasco, i don't mind about the pics, but please check through the article for other changes before reverting AdmirableAckbar 21:01, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * yeah if i get a chance i'll be glad to help AdmirableAckbar 22:17, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

WOTM
i know i already agreed, but i might ask you to wait another month or two before nominating me. Thanks, AdmirableAckbar 10:31, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Yaddle
about Yaddle, you're welcome to make a start on her if you like, but i won't be starting for a little while. AdmirableAckbar 10:42, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Banned
I'm not really banned, so you'd know. I just put it there because it was funny and, like Sikon, I kept it. No worries, I can still contribute. Jediknight19bby 15:11, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I will ban you if you try moving your talk page to a new article again. Kuralyov 17:12, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * What's wrong with that?Jediknight19bby 17:20, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You moved your talk page to the main namespace, just like a real article; we can't have that. User talk pages need to stay like they are. -- Ozzel 17:26, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * if everyone put their talk page where they wished, this wiki would be in shambles AdmirableAckbar 17:32, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Bubo
hey, i'm trying to get Bubo to GA status. It's only a short article, but is fully sourced and referenced. I was wondering if you'd have a look over it and then vote on the GA nomination page. Thanks, AdmirableAckbar 19:20, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Death Star II
it looks really good, well done. I added an appearance. The only problem is that you're not meant to have references in the opening paragraph, any info there is to be repeated later on (and referenced). other than that it's perfect AdmirableAckbar 11:03, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Inquisitorius pages
Don't vote on Inquisitorius pages. Only Inquisitors are supposed to vote there. You can post comments about the article if relevant. You can vote for FA noms here.  Gonk  ( Gonk! ) 15:04, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Jedi Order
Why did you revert my edit? I cleaned up the references, if you look closely at the bottom of the page it currently lists Revenge of the sith about 4 times, and that's just one of the references that are listed multiple times. I changed them so the list contains all sources just once, while all the references in the article are still in place. --Jedimca0 (Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 16:44, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry. I didn't notice that. Thanks. I might source the Post-Ruusan masters a bit today. Jediknight19bby 16:46, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it, it's a simple misunderstanding, just revert your revert and the references will be cleaned up again. You would also have a perfect example when you start sourcing the Post-Ruusan masters, and if you need any help with the references, I spent my entire morning figuring out how to reference it this way and I'd be happy to help. --Jedimca0 (Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 16:54, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Featured Articles

 * I don't normally do this, but I highly recommend you read some of the other Featured Articles and get a better understanding of how the process works. There's a Wikipedia link to "What is a featured article." that I recommend you read also. I appreciate your enthusiasm to help edit, but you should seriously clean up your prose and the quality of your articles if you want to write FAs. Ask some of the Inquisitors at WP:INQ for help if you need it, but as of right now, Jedi Order, Ephant Mon, and Luke Skywalker won't be FAs. And I think you really don't know what you're getting yourself into with Luke. Trust me, I've been there. Also, you have a habit of objecting to articles without a good policy-based reason. That's not allowed. Again, I don't want to discourage you from participating in the Featured and Good article process, but I (and others) would like to see you contribute in a more informed way. And there's no such thing as officers on a wiki. Cheers. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 06:26, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Ever heard of requirement 2a? You're not on the Inq., so don't go bossing everyone around about FA noms. Officers are just on the Jedi Order talk page to prevent a lack of communication between users. Source Daric LaRone, and I'll vote for it. My fellow users and I have worked on Ephant Mon and the Jedi Order substantially, and we are open to suggestions. Jediknight19bby 16:23, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You seem to have misunderstood a number of things about what I said. First: Get this very clear: I didn't boss you around. I gave you advice.
 * Second, what requirement 2a? You mean un-biased? Where is my article writing unbiased? Give me examples.
 * Third, I was on the Inq. thank you very much. I helped create it. However, even though I'm not on the Inquisitorius, I know very well what Featured Article quality is, and your three noms are NOT it.
 * Fourth, read the policy. It says that Daric LaRone doesn't have to have reference tags. This is now the second time I've said that to you. And the Inqs have struck the objection.
 * Fifth, you'll see my suggestions for improvement on Ephant Mon on the FA nom list.

Atarumaster88  ( Talk page ) 03:55, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * As an Inq myself I agree with everything Ataru said there. Like he said, he was a founding member of the Inqs, and even if he weren't he's still had a lot of experience working on FAs. Experience means advice worth listening to. Getting an article to FA isn't an easy task, and the bigger the subject, the more work it's going to take and the harder it'll be. If I were you I'd take advice from the people who have done things like this before. - Lord Hydronium 04:15, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I meant requirement 2a for good article- it still needs to be sourced. Look! Jediknight19bby 14:48, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It's up for FA, not GA. The requirements and rules are different. Even if they weren't, the policy still says that single-source noms don't need to be sourced. LaRone appears in 1 source: Allegiance (novel). Since that's his only source or appearance, all the information in the article has to be from that source. Hence, articles with only source or appearance don't need to be referenced with the tags. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 15:32, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot. Now I understand. Jediknight19bby 18:17, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Sep. Droid Army GA
Hey Jediknight19bby. Just wanted to let you know that a GA nom has to be on the GA page for a full week, have 5 votes, and no active objections, to be considered a GA. It can be found here. Don't worry about it, it was an honest mistake :D. Cheers, Greyman ( Paratus ) 22:04, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Re:New Droids
hey, sorry about the delay, i just got back. i don't think i have the time, effort or IQ to do the technical side of the droid, so sorry, but i'll have to pass on it. Maybe someone else would be willing to do it. AdmirableAckbar 23:17, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Just replied to your comment...see my talk page. —Xwing328 (Talk) 19:06, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Re:Sig
This should answer all your questions on making a signature. AdmirableAckbar 17:39, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * That page isn't entirely right in certain aspects, so if you have any trouble just gimme a message. here's my new sig by the way: [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 18:11, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * hey, i see you're online. If you like, I can make you a signature. If you tell me what colours, words, links ect... you want, i'll make you a sig. [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 22:45, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * User: Jediknight19bby/Signature. I'm going away, so take care of the Jedi Order page for me. Thanks. Jediknight19bby 01:10, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * looks good. To make it appear when you type four tildes, go to my preferences at the top of the screen. In the nickname section type and then click on raw signatures directly under that. Viola! now you have your own cool sig. [|this page] has loads of colors you can use, if it's any help. [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 12:12, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

GA and FA icons on your userpage
Hi Jediknight19bby. Ummm, I noticed that you have the GA and FA era icons on your userpage. I know with the Category for GA's, the icon links the article it's on directly to the GA archive, seen here > Category:Wookieepedia good articles. As you can see, your userpage shows up under the "J" section. I just wanted to let you know, since I didn't want to see any admins come down on you anymore than they already have. It would probably save you a lot of eventual grief if you just removed the icons from your userpage. Humbone 01:20, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You have to remove this icons. If you don't, I will. Wookieepedia policy, only actual GAs and FAs get the icon. Chack Jadson 12:18, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I think he's away, so probably isn't getting these messages. It's probably best to remove them, and tell him you have done so. [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 12:42, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I've removed them. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 12:48, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Darth Plageuis subpage
hi, I made a tiny edit to your Darth Plageuis subpage. Hope you don't mind. ;)  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 11:35, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't mind at all. A good pic, since we've never really seen Darth Plagueis's face. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 13:56, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Poll
What kind of Wookieepedian am I? Great/Excellent user Good user 50% Good 50% bad Bad user The worst user ever

Let me know.  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 18:30, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Appearances can be deceiving. Don't go by polls like this...it makes you look shallow.--Goodwood 21:29, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Userpage policy

 * JK19BBY, it's come to my attention that you have fanon on two separate pages- both a userpage and a subpage. Per User page policy, it's only permissible to have fanon on a single page, so if you'd consolidate it, that'd be appreciated. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 18:44, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Removed. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 18:48, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Attention
I may be taking a temporary leave of absense from Wookieepedia. You have 2 weeks to make me change my mind. When I edit, you think


 * The one who nominated Ephant Mon for ID while it was up for FA
 * The one who added fanon
 * The one who is disworthy to be on this wiki

Not


 * The one who turned the Jedi Order from almost a stub to a referenced GA nom
 * The one who sourced the Yaddle pics and helped it to GA status

And so on. I realized I'm not wanted here. The choices is yours.  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 21:59, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Keep Me

Throw Me Away

Comments
 * About as self-centered as they come. I won't give you the satisfaction of a proper answer, however.--Goodwood 22:02, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * maybe people's opinions would change if you stopped making things like this and got your head down and edited. [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 22:03, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It's stuff like this that really piss people off. supergeeky1 [[Image:BobaFett.jpg|20px]] The Cantina 22:10, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I have to agree with Supergeeky1. You can't just arrive in a new 'community' and expect everyone to notice you and to expect your share of power. Most users sign up to edit, but you seem to have signed up to be recognized. Try stopping focusing on yourself and start focusing on the wiki. [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 22:14, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Since voting would be redundant...I'm going to be frank. If you are honestly going to pull this sort of shit here then the truth is that I would not want you to be editing on the pure and simple reason of lack of maturity. This is simply flouncing at it's worst. You put Jack Nebulax to shame with this sort crap. This is the internet. Nobody gives a damn about your feelings. Quit feeling sorry for yourself and just edit, Goddammit. -- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|20px]] Talk 22:13, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You want to impress people or whatever dream you have here, contribute to articles, not to the actual community. Then I'll vote for you to stay. supergeeky1 [[Image:BobaFett.jpg|20px]] The Cantina 22:16, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * two questions: (1) have you got a reply of any sorts? (2) why is it that you think you're not wanted here? [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 22:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, at this point, he isn't wanted here. Until he can show that he can be a good editor and not just somebody who edits his user page, then he's not. supergeeky1 [[Image:BobaFett.jpg|20px]] The Cantina 22:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * ok, sorry to keep posting, but your "Bad" list greatly outweighs your "Good" list. Sourcing some Yaddle pictures isn't exactly a mean feat, and while I appreciate the good work you've been doing on the Jedi Order page, I feel it has been nullified by the fact that you act like it is your page. I would like you to stay, but only if you attempt to contribute to this encyclopedia in a constructive, non-controversial way, which at the moment is not how you contribute. Anyway, this is the last I'm going to say on this matter. [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 22:45, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Throw him out!ruusan 01:04, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Anon Complaint
I don't have any idea where to put this but i'm the guy who you said was putting "fanon" in i suck at making new pages and i was going to put the sourcein so just LAY OFF A LITTLE (this was placed above, then removed, but i put it back in a more relevant spot   TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 22:23, 10 July 2007 (UTC))

Friendly Advice

 * My suggestion to you if you want to still edit here: Pay no attention to any harassment you receive, don't post polls or questions like that, and make yourself the best Wookieepedian you can be. Don't seek attention, just contribute to the wiki where you want to and where it is enjoyable for you too. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 02:04, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice, Ataru. Now I kind of know what it's like to be getting regularly harassed like you. I think that whole stupid attention-seeking thing was just a phase. I have a secret project that's going to keep everyone's jaws open till Wookieepedia gets 75,000 articles. If you want to see it, go to my user subpage marked as undergoing a major edit. But don't tell anyone. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 16:50, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh. I've seen it. Noble aims, but I've learned the lesson of that particular project- I tried it myself about eight months ago. Take a look at the history. Guess who did a lot of the sourcing? Unless you have everything on that list of appearances/sources and six months to spare, it'll be just about impossible. You'd be better served working on say, Master Katarn. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 17:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Bothan

 * hello JK19bby. I see you're trying to get Bothan to GA status. I noticed the article is missing many sources, but I may be able to help. I have Alien Anthology, Ultimate Alien Anthology and New Essential Guide to Alien Species, so if you like, I can try and reference it over the next week or so. [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 18:02, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Jedi Order
I'm sorry but I've struck my vote on the Jedi Order GA nom page, as, after looking over the article again, the referencing is not up to standard. When I voted support, I didn't fully understand referencing. I have no problems with the article itself, but the referencing is far too sparse, and an article of such importance should have more than 14 notes. I can try and help out a little, but I am quite busy with another article.  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 19:06, 11 July 2007 (UTC) note Green tentacle and Ataru also said that Jedi Order wasn't yet ready.  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 23:26, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, it was already made a GA. It was too late. Sorry. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 23:07, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * well, actually, Finlayson put it back on the nom page due to a misunderstanding on his part of the rules. On IRC, Greyman stated that it shouldn't be GA, as it wasn't sourced enough. After he posted that, I looked over it again, and realised that he was right; the sourcing was far too sparse and not present. So I struck my vote (temporarily) and Greyman re-voted against, so the article is not yet GA. [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 23:19, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Good article nom

 * i'd like to remind you that you have not the power to strike votes on the Ga page. if you feel the objection has been taken care of, then by all means contact me and i'll strike it myself. My objection was valid as we are not meant to have references in the intro. [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 18:56, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I removed it. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 18:57, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * okay, i re=struck it. it's always better to check with the user who objected, and let them see for themselves if it's been sorted out. thanks, [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 19:42, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Welcoming anons

 * You might find anon to be of interest to you when you welcome anons and invite them to join Wookieepedia. Please subst the template with this code:  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 20:47, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Mind Your Own Buisness!!!
Your just jelous that you can't speak an advanced level of spanish.Everyone,he sent a message to me saying to be quiet and that I was lying about speaking spanish,and I was born in Chile.He copied his user boxes from other userpages mr. phoney bologna.
 * I meant that about your being an admin, WOTM, etc. Sorry, but that stuff takes time and effort. I did not personally attack you, I simply do not want you to claim false things. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 16:16, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Darth Whatever
Hello JK19bby, Darth Whatever has already been warned about his actions as of late. By unnecessarily warning a new user again, it could have more negative effects then good on the situation. Thanks, Greyman ( Paratus ) 18:47, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Re:Thanks

 * No problem, I'm glad to help out. With Jedimca0 back now, I reckon we could manage to get it to GA in a couple of days. Thanks, [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 15:58, 19 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I see you've changed your age from 15 to 16. Happy Birthday! [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 16:25, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Senate Hall post

 * Your Senate Hall post on Darth Whatever has been deleted. Don't re-create it. If you know of a policy that Darth Whatever has broken, contact an admin via IRC or talk pages, and they'll take care of it, and make sure you provide proof. The correct solution is not posting inflammatory Senate Hall threads. If we decide to set up a "vote", that's our problem. What you did was a WP:NPA violation and I consider it disruption also. Comment on the content, not the person. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 19:28, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Proof of the fanon accusation? Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 21:00, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * That also includes recreating it under a different name. Do something like that again, and I'll block you for a very looong time. -- SFH 06:06, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Proof of fanon? I guess not. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 16:11, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Ephant Mon

 * Okay, this may sound childish and petty, but I'd like you to remove the userbox from your page. I worked extremely hard for over a month to get that article to FA status, re-writing it twice. I got help from users, including you, however, I don't think you did enough to earn that userbox. You made 9 edits to the article, 3 of which were reverted, and which totaled less than a few sentences. Thanks, [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 18:41, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I know you helped, and I acknowledge and appreciate that, but as Greyman said, to earn the User featured userbox you need to have done significant amount of work. Thanks for removing it, [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 18:57, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

tags
JK19bby, please do not removed the "inuse" tag from any article before first consulting the user who put it there. It does not matter if you think it is in use or not. AdmirableAckbar and Jedimca0 asked me to give them a list of things that needed done in the Jedi Order article, and that is what they are working on right now. Any questions about the inuse tag, then AdmirableAckbar is the guy to ask...or hop on IRC where we all currently are. Greyman ( Paratus ) 19:05, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Jedi Positions
Jediknight19bby, could you please discus any future diciations from proposed the guidelines, like adding Jedi Postions to the article. This is what the Sub page is meant for, discussing the changes. Altough the information you added should be in the article, I'm not sure if it needs a separate section, perhaps we could ad it to another part of the article? --Jedimca0(Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 19:17, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, when you add something make sure to reference. (e.g.Yoda was a Jedi consular) You not referencing makes it far more difficult to have the article fully sourced. Thanks, [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 19:43, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm just informing you that I've removed the Jedi Positions section you added to Jedi Order. Don't take it personally, but there are a couple of reasons. (1) We should be focusing on perfecting the existing sections before we begin adding new ones. (2) Each of the positions could easily be fitted in the other section (Hierarchy) (3) Some of the information wasn't sourced, i.e. Yoda was a Jedi Consular . (4) Some of the positions, e.g.Guardian, Sentinel & Consular, are considered by some to just be game mechanics in Kotor, so we need consensus from those involved before we add it. (5) There we quite a few spelling errors (prefered, millitary). Thanks, [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 00:23, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Anson Trask
Hey. Could you see if your objection to Anson Trask can be struck? Thanks. Green Tentacle (Talk) 15:45, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Jedi Order

 * I'm just letting you know that after discussing it with Jedimca0 on the IRC, we've decided to remove Jedi Order from the GA nom page. The reason for this is that it's taking up a lot of space, and it'll be a lot of time before me and Jedimca0 finish our project, and get it up to scratch, at which point we'll re-nominate it. Jut thought I'd let you know because you are the one who nominated it. Thanks, [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 17:27, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't mind a bit. As Greyman mentioned, we could put it up for FA when we're done. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 22:41, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I see you made some edits to the Clone Wars section of jedi order. Thanks for helping me and jedimca0's project. However, and I can't emphasize this enough:source everything you add. Your edits are rendered completely useless when we have to clean up after you. If you don't have a source for something don't add it. The quality of your edit was ok, but you need to source them. I hope i'm getting through to you, [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 22:21, 26 July 2007 (UTC) p.s. Source!

Skirmish
Let me get straight to the point: Why the hell did you want to delete Skirmish over Geonosis?&mdash; Darthtyler Talk 01:14, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Not notable. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 19:09, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Cool down ban
Greyman ( Paratus ) 16:02, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Jedimca0's subpage

 * Please stay away from both Jedimca0's subpage and the subpage's talk page. If you want to finish being a nuiscanse, and start constructively contributing, (Re-adding something after an admin reverted it is not constructive) then me or Jedimca0 will unstrike your vote. You will not unstrike it yourself, as it's up to us to decide if you're editing properly enough to be part of the 'project'. [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 17:21, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Warning
Please stop. If you continue to remove content from pages, you will be blocked from editing Wookieepedia. Greyman ( Paratus ) 19:25, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Stop
Stop threatning to ban users for adding a contribute to a page. Wookiepedia is all about starwars, created by all people. If it is a liable fact, and the person can prove it, then you have no right to ban anyone.

Threaten anyone again, and an administrator will hear about you. Jackass. Darthan the destroyer 21:36, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Re: Please
What did I edit that wasn't constructive enough?--The K.O. King 18:37, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Advice

 * As a user who's had a fair few dealings with you, I'd like to give you some advice. (1) I see you have been warning users regularly for mainly contributing to their userpages and for vandalising. I think you should leave that to the admins, who've been elected to do so. You yourself said that de-facto admins should be banned infinitely, yet you are acting like one. Are you suggesting you should be banned infinitely? (2) Users cannot be banned for mainly editing their own userpage. If they edit their userpage too much, the page can be locked. They can be banned if they edit only their userpage, however the way you say it makes it sound like they're going to be blocked almost immediately if they continue, which isn't really true. (3) As a user who almost exclusively edited his userpage when he first joined, you're not exactly in a position to lecture people about editing their's now, are you? (4) You've been warning people for vandalism ([1].), when in fact, they've done nothing of the sort. . Warning people for no reason is likely to scare them off, so to speak.

Another thing I'd like to give you advise on is your FA nominations. It's really good that you're so enthusiastic about nominating articles for FA, but I think you should perhaps ask someone you trust (perhaps an admin or inq) if it's ready before you nominate it. That's what I always do before nohttp://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Jediknight19bby&action=edit&section=50 Editing User talk:Jediknight19bby (section) - Wookieepedia, the Star Wars Wikiminating a GA, and it usually helps sort out any potential objections. Anyway, that's just my advice, you can follow it if you wish, or completely ignore it.  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 21:51, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

I didn't know that was a video game character. I though SithSlayer was vandalizing the page.  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 22:23, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd like to reinforce a point Ackbar makes. You certainly are enthusiastic about the FAs, but your nominations have been lacking. Take Shmi Skywalker Lars, for example. It's close, but not quite good enough. It's not sourced and a little too short. I recommend asking Atarumaster88, Greyman, or someone like that before you nominate an article. They give good advice regarding featured articles.  Chack Jadson  Talk 13:20, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice. I'm gonna get to work on Luke Skywalker, and Ataru told me exactly what I need to do. I trust Ataru and Greyman, seeing as how they both know how to bring articles to FA and GA. Ataru and I share the common interest of cleanig up Skywalker, too. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 13:23, 2 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I just wanted to ask you about your suggestion on Greyman's talk page, in regard to "GA inqs." First off, I'm opposed to such an idea; I think the GA nom page is fine at the minute. You mentioned me as a possible candidate for such a position; I don't want it. You say the GA noms are getting out of hand, and that the vandals are usually nominating GAs that stink. I'm curious as to why you think that. Looking at the GA nom page now, the only nominations that aren't doing well are Cerean (0), 0 ABY (-3) and Zondor Rocker (+1). Calling the nominators vandals is a little harsh, not to mention unfair. The nominators were Piequals3, You and Darthtyler. I don't think any of those three would be considered vandals by anyone on the wiki. Anyway, I just wanted to ask you why you think the GA noms are getting out of hand. Thanks, [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|20px]]  TheOne&OnlyAdmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 23:59, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * OOM-10 and Darth Whatever were nominating noms that are not very good. I tried to help with Gardulla the Elder, but it failed, and so did Rozzata, both nommed by OOM-10. You never know who's gonna nominate anything like that again, we need to have a board of GA review that can help out with possible new users coming in and putting up a category for GA nom. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 14:41, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * All of those nominations were removed, some (maybe even most) of them by Greyman, at my request. Category's and lists do not belong on the GA page, there for we will object to them and their nomination will fail, the current system works just fine. The admins have discussed this in IRC and they have decided that "GA Inq's" are not needed. --Jedimca0(Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 15:23, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * You never answered my question. Why are users who nominate sub-standard GAs considered vandals? Why are the GA noms getting out of hand? Correct me if I'm wrong, but OOM-10 nominated three articles for GA (two of which you supported) and Darth Whatever nominated two. Five poor noms is not the end of the world. More importantly, you are setting different standards for yourself than for other users. You're calling users who nominate sub-standard articles for GA vandals, yet you yourself have nominated a fair few articles which have failed. You nominated a list for GA, yet now you want to set up a panel to stop new users noming a category. I for one am quite tired of your double standards, doing something and then giving out that others are doing it. -- [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|40px]] dmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 15:36, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Jedknight19bby, if a nomination, "any" nomination for that matter, doesn't meet the GA criteria, it will be voted against. It's as simple as that. As far as myself and the admins are concerned, the question of "GA Inqs" was answered months ago, and if you want to read the current answer, then go to SoT's talk page. GA Inqs are not needed at all, especially not to strike nom's that *are not* ready. If that was the case, then the Inqs now would be striking some noms from the FA page. Like I said, myself and other admins have discussed this suggestion, both in the past, and recently, in detail and we've made our decision. Thank you. Cheers, Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:42, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Your edit to User:Olsonman
I noticed you edited Olsonman's Userpage. I just wanted to inform you that I've asked an Admin about this in IRC and the response I got was that editing another users userpage can be considered vandalism, no matter what the reason for the edit was. If you find any more COPPA-violating content you should inform the admins about it and then they will deal with it. Please do not edit another user userpage again. Thank you. --Jedimca0(Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 13:12, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Luke

 * I looked at your page, and I must be frank. You've seen the list of things to do, but I'm not sure that you fully understand how the FA and GA process goes or the caliber of content that we are looking for. I prefer that Project Wormhead participants have more practice in writing FAs and GAs before they start working on a project of this magnitude, and some of your noms (Shmi Skywalker Lars, for example) indicate that you need more experience as a Wookieepedian and contributor to FA and GA. I recommend you first, read other peoples' FAs and GAs so you understand what it takes, and then get some experience and demonstrate your qualifications to me in cleanup and writing, and then come talk to me about Project Wormhean. As for Luke being an FA, I'm haven't even set an estimate on that. Preliminary benchmarks include getting Luke to GA by the end of 2008. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 15:18, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Ataru is right, we would prefer writers who have a solid background in FA and GA writing. What we've told several other users on IRC is what Ataru just recommended above: read over a lot of FA's and GA's, get a solid idea of what it means to write at that caliber, and start writing/expanding articles that you like. Eventually, with the right amont of dedication, that goal is achievable. Cheers, Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:56, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

A favor

 * Hey Jediknight19bby, I have a favor to ask of you. I know you're interested in cleanups of articles and such, and I know one that could definitely use some help. Greyman, myself, and some others have been really busy on Mara Jade Skywalker, but we also noticed that her quote page doesn't look as good as, say, Quote:Garik Loran. It just looks awful, and I probably won't have time to get to it soon. I was wondering if you wouldn't mind cleaning it up- it'd be a big help. Thanks. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 19:04, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure, Ataru. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 20:09, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks Jediknight19bby! A lot of those pesky Quote pages are messes, so you efforts on Quote:Mara Jade Skywalker would definitely be appreciated :) Cheers, Greyman ( Paratus ) 20:13, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I started to help out. I'll do more later. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 20:22, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

IRC

 * Hey, we figured out the IRC problem. There's another way to do it. Come on back, I miss you. -- [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|40px]] dmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 23:08, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Re:Jedi Master

 * Hello Jediknight19bby. Sure, I'll help you out with Jedi Master whenever I get the chance. That said, don't count on me for too much help; I am quite busy both in the real world and with a couple of projects here. But I promise that I will help at least a bit over the next few days. About the WookieeProject; I saw it, but I don't think I'd really be interested in it. The main reason for this is that of the four characters listed, only one of them really has anything to do with Jabba's Palace: Bib Fortuna. Boba Fett, Princess Leia and Han Solo would be way out of my depth to try and get to GA or FA, so with the current articles listed, I'll have to decline to join the project, though if new, more relevant articles are added, then I might reconsider. As for any help with projects of my own; that's ok, the only ones I have at the minute are Alien Species ones, and I always like to do them alone. Thanks though, -- [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|40px]] dmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 18:58, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Ga/Fa Noms

 * You've recently nominated two articles for GA/FA, and then struck your support vote when the article did poorly. In my opinion, this makes a whole joke of the GA/FA progress, and should be heavily frowned upon. Clearly, when you nominated the articles for GA/FA you felt they met the requirements, yet when the nominations were received badly, you changed your mind and vote oppose. You should either nominate articles you really think warrant GA/FA, or not at all. You've had enough experience of the whole process to know that you should never nominate a work in progress. I advise you now, for your own credibility if nothing else, to only nominate articles you really feel deserve it, and not to chicken out when things don't look so good. -- [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|40px]] dmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 23:34, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Re:Jedi Master

 * I don't really go through the Good Articles like I do the Featured Articles, so I'm probably not the best person to ask on that. I can tell you that most of the article is a list- and an un-referenced list at that. I also think the lead quote is terrible. I would recommend you change those things first before noming it for GA. Like I said, I work more with FAs, so I'm not the best person to ask on this. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 18:42, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

"Oh, just be quiet."
I will not be quiet while you so-called "administrators" misinform people when this should be an encyclopedia open to everyone, and you know that I am correct in saying what I am saying. You need to "be quiet" and start listening to those who actually know their "Star Wars." (SithLord990205 18:13, 8 August 2007 (UTC))
 * The boy isn't even an admin...SithLord, don't waste your time here. Just ignore him. If you really have a problem with the Sidious/Palpatine issue, take it to Palpys talk page. Targeting one user isn't going to help you. -- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|20px]] Talk 18:16, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Blocked

 * Were you still a new user and hadn't been warned as many times as you had, I would not be doing this. However, you should know better by now than to redirect an entire article without discussion or any other consideration, especially since a look at Recent Changes would have told you that it was in the process of being merged. You should know better than to remove someone's comments- even an anon's. (who is actually Havac FYI). You should know better than to tell someone else to stop posting on a user's talk page, as you have a) been guilty of this yourself and b) been warned about reprimanding others. You should know better than to harass other users with baseless accusations. You are blocked for one day for disruption, per our blocking policy. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 18:14, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Jack's sockpuppet
Look, I am no Sockpuppet! Do you think I want to put up with this? No I dont! I think you should take your sucipions and Shove it!ruusan 22:09, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Yaddle

 * Hello Jediknight19bby. I've recently noticed that you have a userbox saying that you helped promote Yaddle to GA. I've never really given it much thought, and I assumed it was warranted. However, similarly to Ephant Mon, when I looked at the edit history of that article I found that you had made relatively few edits. The edits were: (removing  --was reverted)  (removing picture and interwiki link-was reverted)  (minor edit changing one letter)  (minor edit-adding link)  (added goodnom tag)  (removing large amount of BtS section-was reverted) They are all your edits to Yaddle. I suspect most Wookieepedians would consider GA/FA userboxes to be appropriate only in cases where significantly more work had been done on the article. You might consider removing the userbox, at least for now. Thanks, -- [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|40px]] dmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 13:49, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I also sourced the pics, etc. In truth, you didn't do much either. I was going to find the source of the BtS thing and put it up for FA, but Greyman reverted it before I could look it up. In truth, Yaddle was brought to GA by three people&mdash you, me, and Greyman. Nobody really deserves to have it on their page, as no one wrote a large portion of it, so I guess if you decide to keep it, I will as well. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 19:50, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I remember you telling me that. However, of the current pics in the article, all but one was added by me, and I sourced all mine. So could you provide examples of the pictures you sourced? You're right, I didn't do that much to the article, because it isn't that big. However, I did most of the work that got it from an ok article to GA. You're edits above are minor compared to my, or even Greyman's edits. If Greyman decides to put the userbox on his page, I wouldn't mind, as he actually did some meaningful edits to the article. You didn't. I don't want to start bickering over this, but I also don't want you to claim credit for something you didn't do. -- [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|40px]] dmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 20:17, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The pic of here on the council in 32 BBY had no source. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 20:21, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you mean this one? The one I had to remove because it didn;t have a proper source? That one isn't from the movie at all, it's a promo picture. Anyway, sourcing one image does not warrant a User GA userbox. As I said before, could you please remove it? -- [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|40px]] dmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 20:25, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I just did. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 20:27, 10 August 2007 (UTC)