Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations/Guybrush Threepkiller


 * ''The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a comprehensive article nomination that was unsuccessful. Please do not modify it.

Guybrush Threepkiller

 * Nominated by: -- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 22:36, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:Monkey Island meets WP:VG.

(0 ECs/3 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) Looks good to me. MasterFred Commerce Guild.svg(Whatever) 22:47, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) Great. Also: Menk's subheading for the win. Corellian PremierRobotech.jpg along the watchtower 21:25, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) "Swordfighting is a little like making love. It's not always what you do, but what you say." SinisterSamurai 18:34, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Green Tentacle
 * 2) * This guy has to be worth a mention in BTS.
 * 3) **Done.
 * 4) * Per this screenshot, is he actually called "Threepwood" or "Threepkiller" in the game?
 * 5) **Moved.
 * 6) * "Guybrush Threepwood is the main character in the LucasArts Monkey Island video game, which was first released in 1990." Reads like there's only one game. The Secret of Monkey Island was the 1990 one.
 * 7) **Got it.-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 21:15, October 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * 8) * The Ron Gilbert fact can't be sourced to the film itself since he's not on the credits. Try or . Green Tentacle (Talk) 20:11, October 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * 9) **And done.-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 21:42, October 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * 10) * One more. Per this there are apparently statues of Threepwood in the game. Green Tentacle (Talk) 21:12, October 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 11) **Good find. Got it.-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 22:48, October 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 12) * Probably worth noting that they produced concept art of Elaine Marley as Juno Eclipse and LeChuck as Darth Vader but only Threepkiller made the game. The "Guy Brushkiller" and "Brush Guykiller" names could also use a mention.
 * 13) **See how that looks.-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 23:26, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 14) ***Great. Green Tentacle (Talk) 01:50, October 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * 15) * Wikipedia has some notes on the origin of his name which should be included for comprehensiveness. This Dave Grossman post is a great source for where Guybrush comes from. The SCUMM Bar is a little wrong about Guybrush and I'm not sure whether we'd consider it reliable enough to source Threepwood. Grossman only corrects it about the first name so it may well be right.
 * 16) **I'm not a hundred percent sure what you wanted added, but see how that looks.
 * 17) ***Reworded it a little and moved it a bit earlier so it fits in by the other bits about the creation of the character. One day I'll find a reliable source for the surname too. Green Tentacle (Talk) 01:50, October 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * 18) * This is specifically not an objection but it's a nice bit of related trivia that Guybrush's voice from The Curse of Monkey Island onwards is Dominic Armato, who has voiced several Star Wars characters in other games. Green Tentacle (Talk) 19:40, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 19) **Added.-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 23:54, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 20) ***Slightly reworded but otherwise fine. Green Tentacle (Talk) 01:50, October 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * 21) The most interesting nom the CAN page has ever seen
 * 22) * "Behind the scenes" has good info but reads a bit like a series of disjointed facts strewn together into a paragraph. I'd like to see some reshuffling done (it should mention TFU II and the downloadable skin first before going into what the character was based off of), and some connecting words like "also" added throughout the rest of the bts in order to connect the various strings together. Take a shot at it! Menkooroo 15:57, October 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 23) **See how it looks now.-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 18:41, October 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 24) ***Better! It's probably big enough to be broken into two paragraphs.
 * 25) ****Splitttt.-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 03:32, October 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 26) Yeah its an easter egg but I think the statues should go in the main section and not just the BTS. Something like "statues existed of this individual in the city of Tarko-se." Corellian PremierRobotech.jpg along the watchtower 01:12, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * 27) *Added.-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 19:32, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * 28) Wait a minute...
 * 29) * Are the statues in Tarko-se Easter eggs, or are they canonically there no matter what?
 * 30) **They are always there, but I think they're still considered easter eggs.-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 17:06, October 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 31) * Is the template currently in the article the correct one, or would Easteregg be more appropriate?
 * 32) **I think that the non-canon template should remain. The Easteregg template says that it may or may not be part of the real Star Wars. We know for a fact that Threepkiller is non-canon. So, that template would seem to be inaccurate.
 * 33) * In "Behind the Scenes:" There are also bronze statues of Threepkiller in the game in one of the rooms of the Western Arch of the city of Tarko-se. This is a retread of info already in the bio, and tells the reader nothing new. It's not necessary to state it twice.
 * 34) **Alrighty.
 * 35) * If you google "Guybrush Threepwood The Force Unleashed II," you can find a number of prominent video game magazines commenting on this Easter Egg. You could potentially add something to the end of the BTS about how they took notice of it, and even get a BTS leading quote. Thoughts? Menkooroo 02:51, October 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 36) **I'll see if I can find anything that would be worth a mention.-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 03:30, October 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 37) ***I checked, but couldn't find anything that seems worth a mention.-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 17:17, October 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 38) ****Diggity. Good luck on the GAN page. Menkooroo 04:44, October 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * 39) Wait another minute...
 * 40) * Secrets of Rebel Island.jpg to incorporate some part of the BTS info on the [[Starkiller Mimobot]] (under characters): "This was actually just a quick sketch done on a whim when we were creating additional unlockable costumes for the game (things tend to get silly when artists’ block sets in). Not thinking anyone would take us seriously, we brought it to a sign-off meeting to pitch the idea. Because everyone on the team is a huge Monkey Island fanatic, it made it through! Guybrush is one of those characters that seem to go through a re-design in every game he appears, so we didn’t need to stick to any one particular style. The idea was so popular that we had a few artists take a crack at the Starkiller version. In the end we used a bit from all of the rough sketches to achieve the final piece seen here." --- Whoever is writing these. Foreword of artbook is by Haden Blackman. SinisterSamurai 17:40, October 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 41) **Nice find SinSam. Added.-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 18:13, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Comments
 * 1) This guy is getting too big
 * 2) *Unless I mis-counted, the article currently stands at 294 words. I plan to take it up to GAN, but will leave it here till all the wrinkles have been worked out and the objections have been taken care of so I can move it up with a clean slate. Thanks for all your help with this awesome project of an article!-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 18:18, October 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) **I counted 288, but the majority of the text seems to be in the BTS. Rule 14 indicates that exceptions can be made in such an instance, so if you want this to stay CA, there's arguing room available. SinisterSamurai 19:36, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) ***That's true, but I'd prefer to take it to GAN when I get all these objections taken care of.-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 22:57, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 5) ****Rule 14 is regarding the addition of an intro for articles over 200 words --- anything over 250 is too big to be a CA regardless of BTS size. So, in other words, you're doin' the right thing, Cal. Menkooroo 04:44, October 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * 6) *****Thanks, Menk. I'm looking forward to this baby hitting the GAN page!-- Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 13:31, October 19, 2011 (UTC)