Talk:Nute Gunray/Legends

It is confirmed in the Visual Dictionary (which is G-canon) that Nute Gunray is the last of the Separatist council to be killed by Anakin on Mustafar. -- Lord Patrick

"Neimoidians are cunning political manipulators, but they are also untrustworthy and cowardly." - that feels like a sweeping statement to make. --SparqMan 14:18, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Removed -Imperialles 14:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

"He was alleged to be having an affair with Lora Besh, who in 22 BBY, just before the start of the Clone Wars, released an unauthorized biography of Gunray, entitled Gunray On Top. It spent at least several months as a top-ten bestseller, and its sales may have increased due to its subject's involvement in the war" - Is this for real? Sounds like a prank to me.--Spanky The Dolphin 00:32, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * It's From HoloNet News, apparently. --Imp 00:53, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Indeed it is; see it here. jSarek


 * In the novelization of Star Wars episode 3, Nute seems to keep repeating himself like "The war...the war is over. Lord Sidious promised...he promised we would be left in peace". Why does he do that?-Wattambor2000
 * The obvious answer would be that he thought the war was over, and Sidious promised that they would be left in peace. &mdash; Silly Dan  01:30, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * If you're wondering about the repetition, that's simply a nervous stutter. – Aidje talk 02:28, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Succession box
Yet again, this article is plagued with an unhelpful, odd succession box. Nute Gunray was not preceded by General Grievous. Grievous was not the Head of State of the Confederacy and Gunray was not its military leader. --SparqMan 20:22, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, after Count Dooku's death, General Grievous became the acting leader of the CIS. After word of Grievous's defeat and death on Utapau, Gunray (being the leader of the (allegedly) largest faction under Separatist control) became the next and last acting Head of State for the Separatists. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 21:25, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Really? Is there a source on that? --SparqMan 04:24, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have read it somewhere. Once I find the source, I will make sure to post it here. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 22:59, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Given your inaccuracy on the other CIS succession box, I will remove it for now. If you find a source, share it and we can add it back in. --SparqMan 15:16, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * What inaccuracy on the other CIS succession boxes? I fixed them to make them right. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 20:16, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * The Grievous box, which has GG as Gunray's successor. There are no overall CIS leaders besides Dooku and Grievous. The Councilors each lead a different guild, not the CIS itself, regardless of what you may have read - Kwenn
 * Since I couldn't find the source of the information, I changed the succession box on Grievous's page. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 22:15, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Last Edit
Okay, let me say just one thing: The last edit was complete crap. It deserves to be redone into the way it was before the major edit. That's why I'm changing it. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 19:43, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

What was wrong with the last edit? It seemed to have a lot more information.
 * More like too much information. Do you have any idea how long it took me to read, let alone redo the article? What was there, and is there now, is fine. If you have something to add, please don't rewrite the entire article when you can just add the information into the appropiate spot on the article. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 23:02, 9 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Age?
Does anyone know Gunray's age at his death? I'm planning on looking it up throughout the rest of the Internet, but if anyone here knows it, please tell me. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 14:53, 10 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Picture
Any chance we can get a better picture of Gunray for the info box? One from Episode III, possibly? Cmdr. J. Nebulax 12:06, 16 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Redemption. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 13:17, 20 Nov 2005 (UTC)

"Only villain besides Sidious"
What was wrong with the bit about Anakin Skywalker? It's true, as Ben says, from a certain point of view. Thanos6 19:27, 3 Dec 2005 (UTC) What about Battle and Destroyer Droids? Rune Haako 20:23, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Skywalker was not a villain in Episodes I and II. Therefore, that is not needed. Admiral J. Nebulax 21:41, 3 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * They aren't villains. They're droids. Admiral J. Nebulax 20:27, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Star Wars Clone Wars cartoon appearance?
The Hyperspace Avatars say it's him.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7936/clonewarsnute8us.jpg http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/4098/clonewarsnute28ma.jpg

Though why is he dressed like Gilramos Libkath?
 * It's a cartoon. What do you expect? And while it does seem like him, I'm not sure if it was him, no matter what the avatars say. Admiral J. Nebulax 21:32, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
 * In addition, Clone Wars has screwed up many other times. Admiral J. Nebulax 21:35, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Also, the cartoon shows 'Nute' being led away with the Muuns, and there's been no other material detailing any escape from Republic prison on Gunray's part. I'd go with 'random Neimoidian lackey' - Kwenn 21:45, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
 * San Hill was captured as well, has there been anything about him escaping? Rune Haako 21:56, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Don't think so, but it might be in the Episode III Visual Dictionary. Admiral J. Nebulax 00:48, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I think they detailed his escape in the Star Wars Insider HoloNet News feeds, but I can't find it on here.-LtNOWIS 20:40, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't think so. I'm a big fan of the Insider's HoloNet, and I never saw it. Admiral J. Nebulax 20:42, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

The Stark Hyperspace War
Can anyone post a pic of Nute from the comic?--Rune Haako 22:44, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
 * There's an image of Gunray in the Ultimate Visual Guide with Qui-Gon Jinn, so, perhaps someone can take that one and make it smaller. Admiral J. Nebulax 22:57, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Nute on Fire
I think we should include a line in behind the scenes that Nute was originally going to be killed by Jango Fett's flamethrower in the arena.

In the run-up to AotC, I remember a thread at TFN with a picture of this (Nute in flames). Could someone else confirm it, because I can find little information on this cut scene now. KastMorben 12:38, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, a source is needed, because this sounds like something a fan made up. Admiral J. Nebulax 21:21, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
 * It was early storyboards for AOTC, IIRC. QuentinGeorge 06:12, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd like to see this picture, if possible. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 21:34, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Death
In RotS, Nute was killed in the Control Room after Anakin followed him into the Conference Room. In the book, he is killed in the conference room. Is this a mistake or what, and are there any other sources to prove one point or another? Mastermundi 12:43, 28 March 2006 (UTC) Thanks. Mastermundi 11:20, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * In this case, the visual source would be correct. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 21:29, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * No problem. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 20:28, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Have you ever encountered a Jedi Knight before?
The article curently reads "...during which Gunray commanded his battle droid bodyguards to open fire—without specifying the enemy. Jedi Master Tyvokka was gunned down by Nute's droids, though the cowardly Neimoidian demanded the surviving Jedi help him to his ship." But in Episode I he says he has never encountered a Jedi. Mistake?

If so we should go with the Movie, as G-canon.
 * He had clear, undeniable dealings with the Jedi during the Stark Hyperspace War. It's in the nature of Nemoidians to lie, so it's not really a contradiction. Anyways, here's the exact quote from TPM:
 * "RUNE : Have you ever encountered a Jedi Knight before, sir?"
 * "NUTE : Well, not exactly, but I don't..." --LtNOWIS 22:54, 6 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Still, wasn't Episode I made before the comics with the Stark Hyperspace War? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:54, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The Stark Hyperspace War story specifically concludes with "Nute Gunray would continue to deny ever seeing a Jedi Knight in action." It's addressed, so it's not a contradiction. QuentinGeorge 02:49, 7 May 2006 (UTC)