Talk:Plo Koon/Legends

Action Shot
Anyone have a good action shot of Plo? He was a martial Jedi, so it might be nice. --SparqMan 18:00, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
 * We could wait for the ROTS DVD and put in his death shot, I suppose. The only other choice would be a shot from the deleted core-ship raid or a comic picture. QuentinGeorge 22:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
 * His death scene didn't involve any action after all... --Master Starkeiller 22:22, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Koon Fanboys, beware!

 * Yes guys, cool as he is - he's dead. Get over it! QuentinGeorge 04:53, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * The whole 'Plo Koon survives Order 66' thing comes from the Execute Order 66 Databank update on the OS. Whereas articles for Ki-Adi, Aayla and Stass firmly state these Jedi are killed, for Plo, it says only that his starfighter crashes. The implication many have picked up is that Plo was not killed. While I take it for granted that Plo is dead, perhaps we should leave this page similarly almost-ambiguous for the time being - just in case? - Kwenn
 * Well, I dunno. The movie was pretty unambiguous for me - by the looks of the flames, he was dead before his fighter even crashed. QuentinGeorge 06:04, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't imagine George would put in a scene where a Jedi doesnt actually die. It would take away from the effectiveness of Order 66.  But give a fan a loophole and they'll jump all over it. - FfejNosliw
 * From the new Databank update:
 * Plo Koon's clone wingmen carried out the order, communicated to them directly from Chancellor Palpatine. Aboard ARC-170 starfighters, the clone commander pilot opened fire. Plo Koon's starfighter spun out of control and crashed into the Neimoidian city below.
 * Certainly sounds like he didn't die. My guess is that he'll return in Star Wars: Purge, and die a more worthy death at the hands of Darth Vader. But let's leave him dead until that time comes. --Imp 09:23, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * My guess is he's dead. I mean, really, I know SW Fans love grasping at straws, but the guy crashed into the city from a massive height. He's DEAD!!! QuentinGeorge 09:59, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, he IS DEAD. How could he survive the crash? As far as I recall the movie, his craft exploded in space. He had no chance. TopAce 23:04, 7th September 2005 (GMT +1)


 * You're an idiot. he wasnt even in f*cking space! he was in the sky above Cato Nemoidia. His fighter crashes ontop of a building trailing fire. Yoda1300 23:56, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Calm down, no need for namecalling, especially when this conversation ended four months ago. --MarcK [talk] 23:58, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe a possible reason why some think he's alive... http://www.ravenmimura.com/gallery_item.php?id=226 Cutch 19:22, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * That's not even his fighter or the spot where it crashed on Cato Neimoidia... Admiral J. Nebulax 19:34, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I hope no one will consider me a fool for saying this, but there is an explanation for a possible survival. He had about 3 seconds to react to the laser fire. He had the ability to use [Force Push|Force Push] wighout looking at a target, and he could change temperature. Is it not possible that he could have ejected himself from the cockpit, concealed in cooled flames? [User:Crucitorn|Crucitorn]

Plo's Apprentice
I ran across The New Essential Guide to Characters and read that he had a Trandoshan apprentice during the Battle of Naboo. Does anyone have any info on that? Mainly a name and when the apprentice finished studying under Plo? - FfejNosliw
 * That information first appeared in the NEGTC and hasn't been expanded yet. QuentinGeorge 06:01, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Some fans are wonding and so am I, does anyone know what Plo Koon looks like with out his mask and goggles?

HE BLEW UP
 * Okay, that was just stupid and uncalled for. That's why I think only registered users should be allowed to edit. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 22:42, 22 Oct 2005 (UTC)


 * what do you mean, Nebulax? as for you other non registered gays- Trandoshan apprentice? the only one i new of was Swan
 * The comment "HE BLEW UP" is completely uncalled for and stupid. Admiral J. Nebulax 00:35, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Plo Koon's Death
The article lists that his starfighter got blasted in half and crashed down, but i found a movie which shows his actual death, death by internal explosions.

here's the link: http://media.putfile.com/The-Fall-of-the-Jedi-2

it contains the deaths of KI-adi, aayla, plo and stass, plus yoda's near-death experience

User:General Secura
 * I reverted it, but then I fixed it up a little bit to relate to the movie. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 20:15, 23 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Without mask and goggles
There's a picture of it at: starwars.com/databank/character/plokoon/?id=bts Geekmasterflash 00:50, 15 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * It's without the goggles only. Plus, I don't know whether that was the actor who played Koon or if that is really what he looks like without the goggles. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 23:18, 3 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * It's what he really looks like without goggles.
 * Does it state anyway that that is in fact what Plo Koon looks like without goggles? Cmdr. J. Nebulax 23:55, 4 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * I added this image because it is interesting. It is in the behind the scenes section of the official site so it is just as appropriate to have it in ours. Please don't change it back. If you do I am going to have a third party take a look and decide. I even comment on the possible non-canon status of this so lay off Nebulax. --DannyBoy7783 23:52, 14 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * "Lay off"? And I guess you don't realize that when you press "Save page", your work can be edited mercilessly. And as for your "I'll call in a moderator", there's no need to when it's something small like that with only two reversions. Admiral J. Nebulax 00:23, 15 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * The first "revision" was a complete removal of the information in question by you, and you are correct that it can be mercilessly edited, however this could quickly become an edit war had you not desided for the time being at least to comprimise. In which I would hate to bother moderators with something this silly. Play nice. Geekmasterflash 00:30, 15 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Now, DannyBoy, it is perfectly fine the way it is now. Admiral J. Nebulax 00:33, 15 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * You are correct - it can be edited. And it can be reverted back to what it was. I'm not threatening you, I'm simply pointing out that I made a valid addition to this article and I'll defend it if you continue to edit it. This is the second time we have disagreed on an article. I'd prefer there not be a third. This is not just your wiki Nebulax, remmeber that.--DannyBoy7783 00:39, 15 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * First of all, Danny, "extraneous" is not synonymous with "unfavorable to me". Second, to answer the question you removed, Behind the Scenes sections are a source for behind the scenes information, not canon information. Or does Yoda look like this? CooperTFN 00:48, 15 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, as awesome as that picture is, I have to say this is settled... so, in the words of Yoda:
 * Like I said, I misread it so I put it back.--DannyBoy7783 01:18, 15 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I saw that later. S'cool. CooperTFN 02:20, 15 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * DannyBoy, I'd just like to apologize on the matter. I at first felt it wasn't necissary, but I decided that it is in fact necissary. And just one thing not relating to the article: Did you take my idea of "My Star Wars Favorites" for your page? Because, if so, I feel, well, honored. Admiral J. Nebulax 18:37, 15 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * I did. I wanted to make up a user page and your format seemed pretty good. It was easier to copy the text from your edit page and then tailor it for myself. I'm still getting a hang of the editing here.--DannyBoy7783 18:40, 15 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, if you need any help, just ask. Admiral J. Nebulax 18:44, 15 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Accounting for tastes?
The new animated gif of Koon's ship exploding is really hurting my eyes, and just seems rather spastic. Geekmasterflash 02:16, 1 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Also, that picture of his starfighter exploding needs to be removed, as that is too bright. Admiral J. Nebulax 21:33, 1 Dec 2005 (UTC)

New main pic
I have to disagree with the new picture on the main article page. The image has quality issues. You can see lines going through the entire image especially along his robes. It is closer yes but the quality of the previous image was better. I tweaked the levels and stuff in photoshop but it didn't help the line issue. It did fix the colors a bit though.--DannyBoy7783 08:10, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * I did a quick google image search and didn't find anything much better yet so we can stick with this for now if anyone else wants. I wish I had Star Wars Chronicles: The Prequels. I could just scan him in.--DannyBoy7783 08:14, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Is this better or should I put back the Databank image? We definitely need a full-body. --Master Starkeiller 12:36, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * No! The standard is a head/shoulders shot in the profile. See Saesee Tiin, Eeth Koth, and Oppo Rancisis for example. Please, I chose that other one for a reason. QuentinGeorge 12:38, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'm cool with that... --Master Starkeiller 12:59, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, let's keep this picture until a better one can be found. Admiral J. Nebulax 21:00, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)

What was Plo Koon's relationship with the Baran Do?
The description of Plo Koon's personality, (the parts of him seeing things in black-and-white and favoring "rough justice"), seems in sharp contrast to the description of the Baran Do in the Baran Do article. Did he become a Jedi because he didn't fit in very well with this other Force-based organization?
 * All we can do is guess. Admiral J. Nebulax 22:37, 8 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * The Baran Do sect pretty much died a slow death after the Kel Dor joined the Republic, since force-sensitive Kel Dor instead joined the Jedi. By the time of Plo Koon, I imagine it was pretty much a fringe-cult. QuentinGeorge 05:01, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * You're probably right. Admiral J. Nebulax 13:06, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)

appearance
So about his appearance. in the movies, he has the yellow tunic-looking thing and the closed cloak thing, but in some pics he looks totally different. Same thing with his Episode III action figure. on the figure, he's wearing a grey-ish tunic, with dark red/maroon over tunic and a brown-ish belt. W-T-F??!!?!?!Yoda1300 00:41, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * What. It's laundry day. Jedi don't wear the exact same cloths 27/7. --AdmThrawn 00:44, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * And why does this matter at all? Admiral J. Nebulax 00:45, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Im makin a plo koon costume, i just wanted to know. True, but dont they have like 80000 copies of the same clothes? how can it just so happen that he is wearing the same thing all the times we see him? and then, wouldnt the action figure have his most common clothes on?--Yoda1300 20:33, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, a) it doesn't matter, b) why would you ask here?, and c) the people who make the action figures don't really care about the "most common clothes". Admiral J. Nebulax 22:06, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * a)just asking, b) you dont have to be a pissoff about it, and c) why dont you take that stick out of your ass?
 * Then he wouldn't be the Jack Nebulax we all know and love. --AdmThrawn 02:54, 17 Jan 2006 (UTC)


 * may i ask what this whole Nebulax thing is? the admirals, and the commadores, what does it all mean, exactly?Yoda1300 17:24, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * It means he likes people to call him Cap'n. --AdmThrawn 17:28, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * So, in a way, you all have a lil' Captain in you? is that like some sort of clan?
 * Yoda1300, this is not the place to talk about why his clothes are so different just because you're making a costume. Admiral J. Nebulax 20:32, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Go piss up a tree Yoda1300 21:37, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Go piss up a tree? What the hell does that mean? No. You know what. Don't tell me. --AdmThrawn 21:45, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

new main pic #2
hey i was just wondering if you guys liked this pic better, it still has the head/shoulders thing, but it also shows a cool lightsaber. i know its not the same one we see him use in the movie, but i still think it looks pretty cool.Yoda1300 22:44, 18 January 2006 (UTC) heres the image:

Yoda1300 21:51, 19 January 2006 (UTC) Yoda1300 22:49, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid not. --AdmThrawn 22:45, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Now what's the matter, dipshit?Yoda1300 22:55, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * a) It's not any higher-res than the current pic. b) It has too much distracting and OOU background in it. QuentinGeorge 05:02, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Well i can change the appearance, no problem. i was thinking about it anyway, probably just to a white background. how bout then?Yoda1300 21:18, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
 * k, what about now
 * Still doesn't look any good - there's a big blue outline round him now. Plus the addition of the lightsaber looks daft. Leave the current image as is - Kwenn 21:53, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
 * alright, fine. (Daft?)what the hell does "daft" mean?
 * The current one's better; no use sticking a dodgy-looking lightsaber in there. Also, daft basically means stupid. --MarcK [talk] 23:01, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Jesus, both those images look wretched. Thank god we have some people around here with some taste to prevent stuff like this.--DannyBoy7783 17:02, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Admiral J. Nebulax 20:37, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I think this one may work: --Darthless
 * The current profile pic is perfect. Darth Kevinmhk 03:45, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Koon as Fighter Pilot
I was just wondering if their was any evidence in the books, comics, or movies that Plo Koon had the Fighter Pilot poweress of Anakin Skywalker??? I remember reading this somewhere. LordRevan 16:57, 13 February 2006 (UTC) I swear I've read this some where. I think it was the Star Wars Character Book guide. LordRevan 16:57, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Doubt it. Admiral J. Nebulax 20:02, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Why? He spent a lot of time during his long life flying. He was surely more experienced. - TopAce 10:51, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I said that because Skywalker was a great pilot, and he was the only member of his species to be able to pilot a podracer and win a podrace. Admiral J. Nebulax 12:40, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Hello anyone?? LordRevan 00:53, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
 * It's extremly unlikely. In Jedi Council: Acts of War we see Micah Giiett tell Plo "I wish Saesee Tiin was flying this ship" to which he replies "I, too, wish he was here". Not something you would say to someone with the skill at flying as Anakin Skywalker, is it? KastMorben

That does not exactly mean that he was not on par with Anakin, all I see their was that he wished that the great fighter pilot Saesee Tiin was there to help in their current problem, nothing else. LordRevan 01:50, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Maskless
The Maskless appearance need not be contra-canon. Kel Dor can survive w/o masks for brief periods of time, and we know fom KOTOR II and TPM, etc., humans Jedi have techniques to resist poisonous gases for considerable periods of time (even days, acc to Kreia, IIRC), so why can the same not be true of Plo Koon?JustinGann 12:45, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * The problem is that we don't know what Plo Koon's eyes actually look like. That is a make-up test pictured. If we were actually in Star Wars and removed his eye covers who is to say they would look like the make-up test? It's speculative. I originally had your perspective, Justin ,but have since changed it because as much as I'd like that image to be 100% it's more on the fringe.--DannyBoy7783 13:57, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Good lord, I just saw the unmasked image from the comic on the Plo Koon page...so forget what I just said. He's an ugly mofo!--DannyBoy7783 13:59, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Definitely. Admiral J. Nebulax 22:11, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Plo Koon's Talons??
I would like to know how Koon's talons augmented his telekenises abilities??? LordRevan 00:51, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Hello anyone??? LordRevan 01:47, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
 * They . . . don't? I mean, what does that question even mean? And also, why do you use ??? when ? would suffice? It gives me a headache.-- The Erl of the  talk  What I do 01:01, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

This is what im talking about: "Koon was a master of telekinesis, considering he could move objects without even having to face them. He wore talons over his fingertips, allowing him to further augment his already prodigious Force powers." I just want to know how his talons augmented his telekinesis. LordRevan 23:58, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

This appears in an action figure booklet, but Hasbro does not elucidate how this is done. The talons particularly augment his Force Push power.

Plo & Lightsaber combat

 * Alright, as I asked in Talk:Form V: Shien / Djem So, which canonical source exactly state that Plo is a Form V / Shien / Djem So user? I read over Fightsaber: Jedi Lightsaber Combat, EP2+3 Visual Dict, EP3 Novel and DH comics, and none of them seem to feature Plo as Form V user. Please help clarify, thanks. Darth Kevinmhk 06:46, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Plo Koon: Behind the scenes
Can someone take out/ change the sentence "In the latter case, the films outstrip the video game and toy." because nothing ever said Plo Koon didn't have yellow in TPM. That sentence make it sound like he had a Blue Saber through his whole Jedi Life. The film never said about Plo Koon's saber in TPM, so don't you think that's why the games and toys are around, to fill in the gaps the movie didn't fill in? Double D 11:09, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

It's just, that "In the latter case, the films outstrip the video game and toy.", it make it sound like the games and toys came from Super Shadow or some thing (it make the toys and games sound like a brunch of lies, but I notice the a lot of Star Wars games are base near to the back-ground true as possible) Double D 11:17, 20 May 2006 (UTC)


 * G-canon lightsaber colors are green, blue, red and purple ONLY. Period. Darth Kevinmhk 13:15, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

I just looked up G-canon just now. So you mean George Lucas said "The're only 4 saber color" ? OK Then. (Double D, forget to log in)

Wait a min. I just checked out the Adi Gallia article, and it says Adi had more than just a blue lightsaber (I first heard of hear having a dark red lightsaber), It also says she had a third lightsaber (an orange one). If it doens't say "In the latter case, the films outstrip the video game and toy." on her page, why does it say it on Plo Koon's page? (Don't get angry at me please. I'm just asking a simple question here.) Double D 00:33, 21 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Whoever has whatever color in EU, that doesnt really count. G-canon blade colors are blue/red/green/violet. If a guy has different colors in movie & EU, either the authors can explain the difference in some products (like Mace exchange saber with Eeth), thus making both issues canonical. But if the difference was not explained, then movie always outrank EU. In Plo's case, we dont see what color he was in EP1, but it must be blue/green/red/violet in a movie(which practically, only blue / green for a Jedi). Toys are known to have much mistakes; Plo's EU appearance with his blade does not take place exactly at EP1's time, so one can assume Plo has 2 sabers as the most logical answer which fit into any canon level. And remember, Plo wields a blue blade in EP2. Darth Kevinmhk 15:18, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The thing is, if we followed G-canon only, then this would be a pretty small wiki. It is entirely plausible that Plo Koon had a yellow lightsaber during TPM and, since we do not know exactely, mention of this should be made. Jasca Ducato 21:21, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I revert the change. The original statement did not rule out the possibility that Plo replaced his lightsaber, it just suggested that there is a POSSIBLE canon contradiction. Unlike Mace's lightsabers, Plo's did not receive an in-universe explanation yet. The original statement cover all the cases until we receive further proof. Darth Kevinmhk 03:51, 7 July 2006 (UTC)