Forum:SH Archive/Movie purism wins out at Wookieepedia

I'm for it. I see no reason why we should include all the crap (the EU) on our wiki. Graestan ( Talk ) 00:06, 1 April 2009 (UTC) Is Star Wars The clone wars canon? Very lame, the EU is the majority of the universe, w/o it Star Wars wouldn't even be half of what it is today. The novels are what really got me into Star Wars, not the movies. Maybe if George Lucas had read the Novels then Episodes 1 - 3 wouldn't have been so horrible.--HWI 06:57, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I second that. The EU is all a bunch of made up crap.  IFYLOFD  ( Come with me if you want to live. ) 00:09, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I've always thought I lived in an alternate universe from everyone else. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 00:17, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * "After reviewing George Lucas' statements on Star Wars canon, the consensus of the Wookieepedia administrators is to only accept the Star Wars films as canon. Expanded Universe material will be treated as non-canon from here on. We will be updating the site accordingly over the next few weeks." — Oh my god, you are so cruel, when I saw that message I thought "damn that's the end of Star Wars right here". Damn you! — RedVix  | 00:24, 1 April 2009 (UTC) (20:24 EST)
 * What do you mean? Wookieepedia now follows the word of Mr. Lucas; everything EU-related must be purged. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 00:25, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Administrative Warning: Movie-only canon is hereby an OFFICIAL POLICY on Wookieepedia, and we will accept no dissent on this matter. Anyone found guilty of inserting anything related to the Expanded Universe from hereon out will be PERMANENTLY BANNED FROM EDITING. Let this be your only warning. Toprawa and Ralltiir 00:32, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * So does this mean that even the CCG and names given to characters from the movie in the EU (the literal hundreds of secondary characters who have received names and possibly backstories in the EU and/or CCG) are no longer canon? For example, is Drazin no longer the stormtrooper who shoots Threepio on Bespin offscreen in ESB and R2 on Endor onscreen in ROTJ, and TIE pilots in Death Star hangar from the beginning of ROTJ no longer flying the fighters they were established as flying from the film in the CCG? Hanzo Hasashi 00:36, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Of course. We'll be moving them to variants of "Unidentified stormtrooper (location)" in the next few days. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 00:38, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * This is perhaps the very best April Fools joke I have seen in a very long time.--SOCLcomm 00:40, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * So do all the secondary characters now no longer have names, or are their names still canon? Hanzo Hasashi 00:42, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * ADMINISTRATIVE WARNING: THIS IS NO JOKE. Anyone else who degrades the functioning and decision making of the Administration will ALSO BE BANNED IN PERPETUITY. THIS IS NO APRIL FOOL'S JOKE. DO NOT LET THE DATING COINCIDENCE CONFUSE YOU. Toprawa and Ralltiir 00:42, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, and if this is the case, then how did it take that long? Lucas said EU was non canon for a long time XD Hanzo Hasashi 00:44, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * George Lucas isn't responsible for continuity, Leeland Chee is. — RedVix  | 00:56, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Leland Chee supports this move. Because I am Leland Chee. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 00:57, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Even if Chee didn't fully support this, Lucas is the overriding authority in all matters Star Wars.--Darth Oblivion 01:00, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * My signature proves my identity. Grand Moff Chee [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 01:03, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * God, I knew it was a mistake for us to implement this now. Normally, we'd keep admin arguments to the realm of personal discussion, but I really have to vent here. We decided around the end of this February that it was about time we went to George's vision of how the Star Wars universe should be. As you can imagine, we realized there would be quite the difficult transition ahead of us. We were initially going to phase it, bit by bit; start with the games and older sources, then work our way up to finally removing the novel materials. The first materials were going to be removed next week. But someone—I won't name them—thought we should just announce it at once and start removing things. And Mr. Bright Ideas there figured that the start of the month would be a good time to break the news. Well, April 1, you can imagine the problem. So now, thanks to a certain admin who's now on my shitlist, we have the added difficulty of conveying that we're actually doing this—and make no mistake, like Top says, this is real—in addition to the transition itself. - Lord Hydronium(Oya!) 00:57, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * To echo what I've already stated on a similar ongoing forum, we're sorry for any inconvenience, but Wookieepedia has decided on this matter. We will be enlisting users to help us update the site's pages in the coming days. You can leave a talk page message expressing interest on mine or any other administrator's talk page. This is a huge task we have ahead of us, so any and all help is certainly appreciated! Thanks! Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:01, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, and when I type Mara‍‍ Jade it will link to her page, so thus the Mara Jade redlink on the main page is a fake, I have no idea how it was pulled off though. 24.218.180.19 01:10, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The server cache is probably just having trouble updating. - Lord Hydronium(Oya!)
 * THIS IS MADNESS! I will not tolerate a Wookieepedia that doesn't not support the EU! I demand a full, community wide vote. All registered users. None of that IRC consensus crap! All anonymous and newly registered users will be prohibited from voting and fed to poodles if they try. If it fails, I will resign my adminship in protest. -- SFH 01:14, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Might I make a recommendation, SFH? -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 03:48, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It's a trap!Smy&#39;the Ordo 01:15, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I know that some of the EU is shitty, but overall the good stuff outnumbers the bad. Not gonna be a whole lot left on Wookieepedia. Oh well.
 * I say, Good Riddance. The EU isn't even publicizedat all. And, for the record, anything that has the hint of Karen Traviss crap, I'll be happy to purge at the subtlest of notions. NaruHina  Talk [[Image:Anakinsolo.png|14px]] 01:36, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * This is not a general discussion forum; so, you can't just say you're for or against updates to Star Wars canon. Senate Hall is for site issues. -LtNOWIS 01:41, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I would ask that people not try to help by just moving things on their own. This is going to be big, and we'll need an organized process. Volunteers will be welcome, but you'll need to wait until we post a sign-up sheet. Should be around the 6th. - Lord Hydronium(Oya!) 01:42, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I know I'm a bit late on this, and that it's largely snowballed anyway, but I'll toss in my support for this method. Adding the EU stuff (junk, as it were) just complicates and makes confusing the will of the Great Lucas. Also, Hydro, feel free to add me to that list now. I think this movement is the catalyst I need to finally get back Wooking. 01:55, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I have only one good argument for keeping the EU: If we remove it, then we remove Kyle Katarn as well. Do you want to face his wrath? -- SFH 02:34, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You mean his non-canon wrath? Bring it :P Also remember that the decision has been established; this is a notification, not a discussion.  02:36, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hah! Much more subtle than the Aurabesh font or Katarnpedia, I'll give you that much. Nearly had me, until I saw the front page.Revan Averre 04:14, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! I protest, as I voiced in my very vocal dissenting opinion in our closed-door discussions about this matter. I've had it with this website, and will in fact, pack my bags and leave post haste. I've poured hours and hours into making articles almost exclusively about EU topics, as well as improving other EU articles. I'll be taking advantage of Wikia's Insta-Request-A-Wiki feature and will request a cached version of Wookieepedia's database servers, as I promised you all that I would. While Wookieepedia may have the name recognition, the limited scope of your content will ultimately allow this splinter wiki to prevail. To conclude, this is my final and terminal resignation from this site, effective immediately. I'm outta here. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 04:21, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * THOSE STILL LOYAL TO THE EU WILL NOT BE SILENT! I will not tolerate this blatant misuse of power! The administration has stepped too far this time. If I must, I will leave and join Ataru's Wicketpedia, the Real Star Wars Wiki, and we shall prevail! SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 05:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * This is what happens when you let crap like these be part of the EU.--ToRsO bOy 05:18, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Whoever thought of this should be banned. -- Ozzel 06:12, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * If this isn't a joke I shall be most put out! Darth Jadious 07:57, 1 April 2009 (UTC)