User talk:Toprawa and Ralltiir

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RE:Redirecting and breaking things
Hey Tope, really sorry I had a lapse of judgement. I'll do my best to not repeat this again-- Vitus Infinitus  Talk 18:49, June 28, 2019 (UTC)

TIE/sh shuttle‎‎
And how will we know where it was in the film without going to legends?Rgilbert27 (talk) 23:44, June 28, 2019 (UTC)

Vance Rarkin
Hi. Why did you delete the Vance Rarkin page? He is the confirmed new villain.
 * The page was deleted because you didn't confirm it via correct attribution. And please sign your comments using four tildes, like so: ~ Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:35, June 30, 2019 (UTC)
 * I accidentally didn't read your warning and added a leak page. Srry.

Unidentified ISB
Hey Tope, during my research into Imperial military ranks I found this again, which has been used as an official reference here since it came from a Lucasfilm supervisor in the art department. When I saw that Yularen was featured in it, I remembered that there was another officer with him in the Death Star as Luke, Han, and Chewie were waiting for an elevator and noticed he didn't have an article. I was about to make the canon article as Unidentified Imperial Security Bureau commodore (as the art department rank chart established that the insignia that officer has is of a commodore). However, I decided to look into Yularen's Legends page to see if the officer was named and thus avoid making an article due to policy, and I found the redlink for Unidentified Imperial Security Bureau (Death Star) and saw that it was deleted for lack of notability. Do you think it's appropriate to make the canon Unidentified Imperial Security Bureau commodore page? I can't find more information besides what's in the film and what the rank chart says about the insignia. Thanks and let me know!-- Vitus Infinitus  Talk 03:20, July 5, 2019 (UTC)
 * If I were to argue that it is notable, I'd say that this is the only ISB Commodore we know of in canon, but I'm not 100% sure if that's enough.-- Vitus Infinitus  Talk 03:21, July 5, 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't think just having a rank makes him deserving of an article. Until he does something or is assigned something specifically attributable to his character besides walking down a hallway with Yularen, the information can be covered under the ISB and Commodore articles. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:47, July 5, 2019 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, thanks!-- Vitus Infinitus  Talk 14:33, July 6, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Sources
I'll keep that in mind here forwards, thanks for letting me know^^ 01:55, July 7, 2019 (UTC)

Fandom's official Discord server
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AC 118
Hello! Come visit the Pacor sector on July 27, 2019 at 3 PM ET / 7 PM UTC!  Imperators II (Talk) 21:30, July 12, 2019 (UTC)

Re:Tomorrow
I'm so sorry, I meant to reply to this yesterday. Yes, I will definitely make sure to be there.  Fan26  ( Talk ) 17:50, July 13, 2019 (UTC)

Signature policy
Sorry I didn't realise that it was policy and I've made changes to my signature accordingly. Kind regards  Tomotron  ( talk ) 01:34, July 14, 2019 (UTC)

Inq 105
Inqmoot 105 will be held on Saturday, July 20, 2019. Please be sure to leave notes if you cannot attend. Supreme Emperor (talk) 03:25, July 14, 2019 (UTC)

1000 BBY/Canon
Why was 1000 BBY/Canon deleted?
 * I see no reason to repeat an answer that can already be found simply by looking at the deletion summary on that page. You can read it as well as I can. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:30, July 16, 2019 (UTC)
 * The reasoning was not listed. GeneralGrievous7 (talk) 17:44, July 16, 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, in fact, it was. And is still indicated in the summary on that page and in the deletion log. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:54, July 16, 2019 (UTC)

Image pages
Hey there, Tope. As this issue is still ongoing, and even though I've given Fandom support the exact issue that is the source of the problem, it's been over 6 weeks and it's still not fixed. This issue is, we cannot add http:// or https:// to any File/image page, unless it is during the initial upload of the file. And it is confirmed that it only affects File pages. I don't know enough about templates to even attempt testing my suggestion.

Similar to the InstagramCite where the template automatically adds the http:// www.instagram.com/ to the url, could a solution be to change the templates to pre-insert the http:// so all we have to add is the www.blahblahblah.com for the urls in templates like Cite web and the archive links for all of the source templates? -  JMAS  Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 13:58, July 17, 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm aware of the file-page bug, and I understand it's extremely annoying. This is one of a few fairly significant bugs affecting Wookieepedia right now that Wikia, who is also aware of the issue, seems unable or unwilling to fix at this time. I'm told the file bug is specifically a local issue affecting only Wookieepedia, which makes it very difficult to track down (and probably not as high on their list of concerns as other global issues). Moreover, Wikia is currently in the long process of updating and overhauling their entire MediaWiki package, which probably makes it even less likely they will fix any ongoing bugs any time soon, since any problems will be easier and more practical to fix on clean, updated software. As for a template workaround, that's probably something you would want to talk about with Imperators, EJ, or ecks, who understand that stuff much better than I do. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:55, July 17, 2019 (UTC)
 * Will do. Thanks. -  JMAS  Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 00:19, July 18, 2019 (UTC)

Email
Hey Top, long time no see! I just dropped you an email (assuming your old email address is still the same, lol). Take a look when you get a chance. Thanks! — Hunter Kahn  00:04, July 25, 2019 (UTC)

Inq 106
Inqmoot 106 will be held on Saturday, August 17, 2019. Please be sure to leave notes if you cannot attend. Supreme Emperor (talk) 03:19, July 27, 2019 (UTC)

AC Meeting CXIX
AgriCorps Meeting 119 / CXIX has been scheduled for August 24 at 3 PM ET / 7 PM UTC. Unless you want to participate in the gladiator games, your attendance or notes are requested. Cheers. 1358 (Talk)  11:35, August 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Creating OOU articles
Hey, Tope! Per LG/OOU, I thought bibliography sections are for non-fiction works that mention the individual, while their personal contributions go under a published works/filmography section. I'm aware that Verify suggests adding bib/links sections, but is that really needed in this case? - Cwedin (talk) 02:29, August 8, 2019 (UTC)
 * To answer your question, yes, it should be necessary because I believe the "Published works" section serves a separate function from the Bibliography. For in-universe articles, for example, the Appearances/Sources sections basically serve to demonstrate that the article subject is mentioned within the sources listed under those two sections. The Bibliography does the same for OOU articles. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:46, August 8, 2019 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. LG/OOU doesn't really reflect that for Person articles though. It might need an update. :P - Cwedin (talk) 02:57, August 8, 2019 (UTC)

EduCorps Meeting 59
Report to the briefing room! Meeting 59 will be on Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 4 PM ET / 9 PM UTC. Corellian Premier The Force will be with you always 18:02, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

RE: ID Tag
Checking the source, I believe that I created it since the implication is that the ID tag also acts as automated security; visitors are given ID tags restricting them to certain areas, while they are omnipresent on citizens (even while not working) to regulate their presence on a given level. Rereading it, that is definitely the implication I still have, but admittedly is not stated outright. Here's the exact quotes so you can see what I worked from:


 * The characters are issued visitor ID tags which will grant them access to all public levels, including holoparks, shops and markets, and other common areas.


 * They will notice that each person has an ID badge on their clothing, whether they are working or off-duty; even children have these badges. The badges are used to regulate the presence of personnel on certain floor.

Even if the automated security implication is not applicable, would the use of them in such as way be enough to warrant the article? - Sir Cavalier of One ( Squadron channel ) 19:35, August 16, 2019 (UTC)
 * I'd agree with that. From the item's use described in the article, the name tag serves pretty much the same purpose as the ID tag. If you want to suggest merge and redirect, I'd support that. - Sir Cavalier of One FarStar.svg( Squadron channel ) 00:35, August 17, 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up -- changed my vote. - Sir Cavalier of One FarStar.svg( Squadron channel ) 11:32, August 21, 2019 (UTC)

Lott Dod image sourcing
I found the image on Web Archive by using the back-up link https://web.archive.org/web/20050220194000/http://www.holonetnews.com:80/49/news/13328_3.html which directed me to the Fobosi District Accident article on HoloNet News. That Lott Dod image was from that article. I saw several other images from the old HoloNet News site on Wookieepedia (including the one for Hadocrassk) and did the same thing as it wrote there (except that I put to the Fobosi District article as its source) While its not in use anymore, isn't HoloNet News an official source?--Alex of Star Wars (talk) 19:53, August 17, 2019 (UTC)
 * HoloNet is an official source. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:54, August 17, 2019 (UTC)

Then if I took the image from there, why are you saying the sourcing and licensing are not right? The source is the link to the HoloNet News article on the Fobosi accident on Archive... site. And why is the licensing wrong? Is it not the right one? I looked on the other images from HoloNet News and they had the same licensing (example: YaruaDroid.jpg,AksMoeFuneral.jpg and AargauAccident-HNN.png. I don't want to trouble you too much with this but I honestly do not understand what is wrong. So please clear this up for me. I hope I am not asking too much.--Alex of Star Wars (talk) 20:08, August 17, 2019 (UTC)
 * The fact that you're asking me this question tells me you didn't read a single word on either Special:Upload or the warning that I've already issued to you. There's nothing more that I can or need to say to clarify this for you any further. I'd suggest going back and reading both of those items and following their instructions. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:10, August 17, 2019 (UTC)

INQ 107
Hello. Please join us for an evening full of pleasant screaming on Saturday September 7, at 2 PM ET / 6 PM UTC. Please leave notes if you cannot attend.  Imperators II (Talk) 22:48, August 17, 2019 (UTC)

User:Abbas Assi‎
Hi Toprawa, could you please block this guy for a couple of days. He keeps adding nonsense to pages, I've warned him multiple times to stop and he won't listen. Other users have told him off as well. Kind regards  Darth Tomotron   (talk)  04:21, August 23, 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you and I'll abide with the civility policy.  Darth Tomotron  Revanchist Sith.svg  (talk)  04:32, August 23, 2019 (UTC)

Potential character addition
For the page about SW 8: Outlander 2, should the character list include the Trandoshan in the diner from page 8, and Jabba's green-haired slave girl from page 15? --Blockade3 (talk) 10:43, August 23, 2019 (UTC)

Re Yuuzhan Vong
Hey Toprawa. I was actually thinking the eras on Yuuzhan Vong looked wrong, but I added the rest since nobody seemed to be objecting to the others. I was tempted to take them off, though. OtterSurf (talk) 20:55, August 23, 2019 (UTC)
 * It's fine. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:13, August 23, 2019 (UTC)

Videos
Are videos not allowed on Wookiepedia? Supposedly, a trailer is coming out. MechQueste 01:46, August 26, 2019 (UTC)
 * General video uploading is prohibited on Wookieepedia. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:47, August 26, 2019 (UTC)

AC Meeting 120
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Re:Mofference
Seems like I didn't see the message in time, but thank you for letting me know anyway.  Fan26  ( Talk ) 01:37, August 31, 2019 (UTC)

Space station
Pls tell me what the problem is before deleting all of my edits, thx. OOM 224 (talk) 21:09, September 4, 2019 (UTC)


 * Alright, got it, thx! OOM 224 (talk) 21:10, September 4, 2019 (UTC)

Death Star role
Hello there, im just adding source for Death Star role as carrier, which i add from reliable site that also include the firsthand sourcesAhendra (talk) 07:00, September 6, 2019 (UTC)
 * Wookieepedia thanks you for your contributions. Unfortunately, TheForce.net is not a reliable source. You need to cite your information to the firsthand sources themselves, which can be linked internally from article to article on Wookieepedia. These two pages may be of some help to you: Sourcing and Attribution. Thanks. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:28, September 6, 2019 (UTC)
 * after analyzing for while, i think it will be more adequate to change the role from Carrier to a space station as its more suitable with the source classification. seems the previous editor are arbritrarily inserting carrier classification although its not really fitting the role. what do you think?Ahendra (talk) 07:42, September 6, 2019 (UTC)
 * I really have no opinion. You're welcome to edit it as you believe is best according to the source material. Thanks. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:03, September 6, 2019 (UTC)

Star Wars: Armada
Hi there, you undid the external link for Gladiator-class SD Expansion Pack to the Armada wiki. Now I would like to know what's the problem with the link? If someone would like to learn more about this expansion or the game in general the game wiki is a good place. The wiki is fanmade sister of wookieepedia without commercial interests. Hoping to get an answer. Triangularer--Triangularer (talk) 07:55, September 9, 2019 (UTC) - The external link I added to the site didn't look different than any other such section I have seen on this wiki. - This wiki is a fanmade online encyclopedia about Star Wars. The Armada wiki is a fanmade online encyclopedia about a Star Wars game. Enough for me to see them as sister projects. But maybe you're a better and more worthy and pure Star Wars fan than just gamers? - The Armada wiki startet 4 years ago. I help there for 3 years, being a admin for a while now. We have a 3.000 visitors a week at the main page and Gladiator EP has 345. That's less, than here, but if you look for visitors at any of your Armada pages you'll find nothing at all. The attempt to promote the Armada wiki here would be a poor choice! - The Armada wiki provides 564 pages about the game, including all Expansions, rules, cards, and more. If you think it doesn't has to offer more than the maybe 20 pages about EPs here in the wiki than I would think your cursory scan wasn't much more than a look at the linked page.
 * Your edits were reverted primarily because they were of particularly low quality, lacking the basic formatting expected by Wookieepedia's Manual of Style and Layout Guide. As far as this Armada wiki itself, nothing becomes a "sister" of Wookieepedia unless the Wookieepedia community agrees to partner with a particular project. Just because you create a wiki and want to promote it through Wookieepedia doesn't mean we're automatically going to allow it to be presented in our articles. From a cursory scan of your project, it doesn't look like the Armada wiki offers much of anything outside of what Wookieepedia's articles are already featuring. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:42, September 9, 2019 (UTC)
 * I had to think about your post for a while. I didn't want to be unpolite and I'm not sure if it's worth a try. But there are several things in your answer, I want to give an answer.

I can accept that you don't want any poor looking links to other sides. But that you think a link to the wiki of a game at a page about that game isn't a good idea seems weird. The tone of your answer is quite arrogant. I won't argue here any longer. You don't need to answer, if you think it's pointless. I would only hope you think about your decision for second time. And hope is still a key concept in the universe we both love. Have a nice day! Triangularer--Triangularer (talk)

Legends categories
Why should articles be different between the "canon" and "legends" timelines while categories shouldn't ?

Has there been any decision made on this point ?

--Ldgdps (talk) 00:04, September 10, 2019 (UTC)
 * Wookieepedia has no official policy on this matter. However, there has been a general agreement among the community not to categorize in that manner, which is why it has been our practice up to this point not to do so. Therefore, it would not be the best approach to arbitrarily begin introducing split-continuity categorization. The more appropriate method would be to first introduce the idea in Wookieepedia's Senate Hall for larger community consideration and discussion. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:21, September 10, 2019 (UTC)

I'm having a look at the forum, this will be a good thing to do this wk.

And by the way as I'm quite new to Wookieepedia do you know where I could ask help to move pages bewteen the canon and legends ones ?

Ldgdps (talk) 19:18, September 16, 2019 (UTC)
 * If you mean what I think you do, the best thing is to leave a request on Bot requests. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:23, September 16, 2019 (UTC)

Crimson Command
What kind of speculation should that be? The name Crimson Command does not show up in the novel, nowhere. I searched all mentioned sources and the only two that uses the word combination Crimosn and Command is The Essential Atlas (but as the name Teradoc uses for his Warlord Empire in the Deep Core), The Essential Guide to Warfare (as the actual fleet) and the Despoilers of the Empire article on SW.com. Instead of just removing because it's unverified info, maybe take a look into the article version history, a fresh deep look into Darksaber and proof that I'm wrong. If you can't you should keep that Bts passage in the article. --Modgamers (talk) 08:19, September 10, 2019 (UTC)

Moving Page
Hi Toprawa could you please move Sith lightsaber to /Legends. Kind regards  Darth Tomotron   (talk)  06:14, September 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * There are way too many corresponding links that need to be updated for me to do this manually. I would suggest leaving a request on Bot requests. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:36, September 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you.  Darth Tomotron  Revanchist Sith.svg  (talk)  22:55, September 12, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Talkheader
Tope, in all civility, you know me well enough to know I don't add talkheaders just for the sake of it. I've been here long enough to know not to do that. Granted, I usually don't add the talkheader AND the first message in one single edit, because experience has taught me that other editors often fail to notice said message in that case. Hence my often adding the talkheader and then the first message about a minute later. Now if that's so serious, I certainly won't do it again, but I'm sad that you automatically assume bad faith on my part AND then come here with a threatening message as if I were some kind of dangerous vandal. All the same, good day to you. -- Lelal Mekha  (Audience Room) 19:31, September 13, 2019 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. It's duly noted. -- Lelal Mekha  The Uprising crest.png(Audience Room) 19:48, September 13, 2019 (UTC)

Commander Bhatoa
Doesn't the Ion-flux cooling system is a redlist link and clearly it is mentioned in some souce as it is on this wiki but with no article. Does it not get mentioned ever in newer Visual Dictionaries or Cross Sections books? --Commander Bhatoa (talk) 19:50, September 13, 2019 (UTC)

Are not the Ion-flux cooling system used in First Order TIE Fighters (Special Foreces) mentioned in any of the newer Visual Dictionaries or Cross Sections? I did source them? But my changes were reverted. --Commander Bhatoa (talk) 19:47, September 13, 2019 (UTC)
 * I've never read those books, so I don't know. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:59, September 13, 2019 (UTC)

108
Come to the 108th thing (of the Inq variety). Saturday October 5, at 2 PM ET / 6 PM UTC. Please leave notes if you cannot attend. Tommy   Macaroni  22:02, September 14, 2019 (UTC)

Re:Onicle
Yeah, I won't talk to him anymore.  Fan26  ( Talk ) 00:57, September 18, 2019 (UTC)

Re:Fewer edits
No problem, Toprawa. I'll try to get everything in using as few edits as possible; it's just that I keep seeing things that need changing or adding. OtterSurf (talk) 17:58, September 20, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Discussions block
Hi there, I understand. We deal with many reports and this one was no different - they have been spamming for days and one of the discussion moderators requested assistance. As VSTF, our guidelines always recommend a local block over a global block when the disruptive edits are only in one wiki, which was the case here - a gblock isn't appropriate. Nevertheless, I will let the admins here deal with the user. noreplyz talk 05:28, September 22, 2019 (UTC)

Re: IRC
Hey. I do login to IRC on a semi-regular basis on weekdays between 06:00 and 15:00 UTC, although there are very few people present there at those times. Weekdays' evenings aren't really an option for me, at the moment. I'll try to stop by during the weekend, so the time difference is more manageable. Cheers, QuiGonJinn  (Talk) 07:05, September 25, 2019 (UTC)

EduCorps Meeting 60
The EduCorps' sixtieth meeting will be held on Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 4 PM ET/ 8 PM UTC.  Fan26  ( Talk ) 17:28, September 30, 2019 (UTC)

Question
Hey! I have a really silly question, but in Legends articles for characters that are human, I noticed that human, is capitalized. My question is, does it have to be capitalized if I'm adding on to an article? Thanks, Supreme Commander Raxus (talk) 18:32, September 30, 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, our current practice is to capitalize "Human" in Legends but not in Canon, based on source material. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:33, September 30, 2019 (UTC)