Talk:CC-2224/Legends

Name
If some guys like Cody were bred for leadership roles, is it possible that 'commander' is part of his 'name' rather than a changeable rank? --Fade 16:27, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Also, shouldn't their droid serial numbers be used instead of their "nicknames"? --Imperialles 16:28, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Not sure, I think the rule dictated that real name should be used, unless it was really obscure (such as in Thrawn's case) --Fade 16:30, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, at the least, the article should be titled "2224" (as "Cody" is the rough equivilant of "Threepio" for C-3PO). I would say it's safe to assume that no two clones were given the same ID number. When his clone was "chosen" to receive the commander training/genetic alterations, it just happened to be at 2224, so the application of Commander is something the non-clones require to discern him from other clones. We could assume that his full name was "Commander 2224", but Cody continued to serve Palpatine after the Clone Wars, and I imagine his rank changed as well, so "2224" seems our best option. --SparqMan 16:59, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Moved! --Imperialles 17:13, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Imperialles, you might want to wait for further discussion next time, to let other opinions be heard.--SparqMan 17:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Especially since a decision here would have to affect other clones for consistency --Fade 17:39, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh. Sorry, then. Luckily, it is easy to change back with this fine wiki concept. I changed the names of the other clone commanders whose serial numbers were included in their article.--Imperialles 17:43, 29 May 2005 (UTC)


 * I think it was stated in one of the comics (couldn't say which one) that the Clone Commanders *did* have names, because Anakin and Obi-Wan requested (through ARC Trooper Alpha) that they be given names. JSarek 19:28, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Anakin naming Alpha set the precedent for named ARCs, commandos and commanders, though it wasn't really a rule - just something extra Alpha brought to his ARC training program. And even so, they're only nicknames, not actual names (e.g. 'Cody' is CC-2224's nickname as 'Ben' is Obi-Wan's) - Kwenn
 * i think its more important than a nickname, after hearinig palpatine refer to these clones by name and not number
 * Still, a proper designation is more important. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 21:19, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I Agree with you.since boss and commander bacara have the same ID number the proper designation would be commander cody.(in addition that's what obi wan referes to him in revenge of the sith)Thire 4477 01:09, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Please don't restart old topics. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 15:52, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * SorryThire 4477 08:02, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Aerial manuevers?
"Cody also liked to employ rocket packs in his elite unit of troopers, going through different aerial maneuvers." - Source? --SparqMan 20:16, 13 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Apparently you're not a fan of the official site's databank. Cody's use of the jetpack is mentioned in his databank entry. -- AdmThrawn -- 1:52 AM, 1 Nov 2005
 * This might be a little late, but it is shown in Clone Wars Volume II. Admiral J. Nebulax 17:13, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Does anyone know if Cody was really a clone Commando and is there any clone trooper that has similar armor to Cody's  -Stoll2734-(Tuesday,Nov.14,05)
 * In this order: No, he wasn't a commando, and no. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 21:28, 15 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually there's at least one clone trooper who uses the same sort of armour. He was seen in the Seige of Saleucami comics. Tam 20:34, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Picture? Admiral J. Nebulax 23:47, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Armor
Commander Cody's Armor is different from other troopers,but is the thing above his visor a reflec plate? It looks exactly like that on the Scout Trooper Armor? and why isn't he a Commando?,because he looks like one(considering his customized armor.)
 * Okay, in this order: I believe not, it might be, and he's not a commando because he wasn't trained as one. Admiral J. Nebulax 01:45, 7 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * The custom mods on Cody's armor, as far as I can tell, include a pair of headlights (which is why he has the anti-glare shield), at least one long-range comlink that no one else seems to have (the shoulder-mounted antenna), and of course the jet trooper backpack which isn't used in the film (but it's in the cartoon). Anyone know if there's anything else I should look for? --Winchester 20:30, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * How do we know that all those things were custom? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 18:53, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't know all the details about his armor, but I'd sure like to have that outfit for myself. It looks really cool.--Natldsbluedelta353 11:10, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Please keep all opinions off of talk pages. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 13:59, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

As Leader of the...
Stop changing it from 'as leader of the 7th Sky Corps and the 212th Attack Battalion'. Does this mean that we have to say 'Commander Bly led the 327th Corps, the 7th Legion, the 101st Regiment, Hawkbat Battalion, Bacta Company, the 2nd Legion, and Talon Squad' everytime we mention him? No, it doesn't. The corps is all that matters. Especially since putting a mention of the 212th in that particular sentence doesn't even make any sense. It's a set-up to the fact that he's to be paired with a Jedi during the fighting. Corps commanders serve with Jedi, not battalion ones. We don't need to mention some stupid little battalion, 570 men, everytime his command is brought up. The 212th has got enough mention as it is - in the beginning and in the last paragraph. -- AdmThrawn -- Admiral J. Nebulax is right.He was leader of both.Clone Commander Cody 14:09, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It is necissary. As leader of the 212th and the 7th Sky Corps, he needed to be paired with a Jedi General. It is perfectly fine to have it like that. Admiral J. Nebulax 20:45, 27 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * That doesn't make any sense. Are you even familiar with the GAR command structure? Cody leads the 212th the same way Gree leads Sarlacc Battalion A. They are small, minute divisions within a larger legion or corps. A piece of a puzzle, so to speak. The 212th, a battalion, is led by a major. Just because we don't know who that major is doesn't mean that we should brand Cody as its permenant leader. Cody and Obi-Wan took the 212th with them. Doesn't mean that the 212th is Cody or Obi-Wan's personal division. Why give mention to the 212th? That'd mean we'd have to say 'Commander Gree lead the 9th Assault Corps and both of the Sarlacc Battalions under Jedi General Luminara Unduli during the Clone Wars' in his introductory paragraph. That'd mean we have to say 'Commander Bly led the 327th Star Corps and Hawkbat Battalion with Jedi General Aayla Secura'. Why mention the corps and an insignificant part of it? -- AdmThrawn --
 * It does make sense. If the battalion is so small, why does it say "The leader of the 212th Attack Battalion,..." instead of "The leader of the 7th Sky Corps,..."? Admiral J. Nebulax 23:14, 27 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Cody, but in the future, please don't restart old topics. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 17:20, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Cody's Fate
I know its obvious he probably stayed on Utapau after the battle, but I was wondering,Did Commander Cody ever die on Utapau? and did he ever change his armor? What did it look like? Just wondering.-Stoll 7234
 * Please don't ask these kinds of questions, Stoll, as we have no way of answering them. Admiral J. Nebulax 00:46, 30 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Alright,I'm sorry.-Stoll7234

Still,It would interesting to know what happened to Cody,But I guess we can just assume he served the Emperor after the Clone Wars..It really isn't a big deal after all...-Stoll7234

Cody could have served for the empire and died after the battle of endor. Jediknight 13
 * He served the Empire, but that doesn't mean he died after the Battle of Endor. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 19:31, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

have any of you thought that perhaps he died aboard the first death star when it blew?
 * That's nothing but fanon. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 00:36, 23 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Anon its speculation either way, end of Jedi Dude 00:36, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Jedi Dude, that comment was pointless. I already told him it was fanon. Plus, it's not speculation when it's fanon. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 00:38, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh when I posted it you hadn't commented, we must of at the same time! Jedi Dude 00:41, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm surprised neither one of us got the "Edit conflict" message, then. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 00:42, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Commander cody was killed sometime before the empire strikes back. He had gotten lost in a convoy with his forces when they were supposed to keep up the mining process on kessell. They were presumed dead. Look on the star wars confederate page. Its quite a thing to see. User talk:kenobi317
 * And that's probably fanon. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 23:21, 23 December 2006 (UTC)


 * No, you people have it all wrong. My friend read a book saying that Commander Cody was part of an extra batch of clones the Kaminoians made for extra money. He was programmed to serve the republic and the jedi.In episode 3 when Cody told his men to fire at General Kenobi, he clicked his comlink once, wich ment "fire and miss". Later he rebelled against the Galactic Empire and ,with Jar-Jar Binks's help, he broke hte emporers back. Then during the empire strikes back time he rescued Lukes co-pilot on hoth from the snow. Lukes co-pilot was actually alive, the cockpit of his snowspeeder helped him survive, and then he walked the hoth wasteland. Traveling with a group of taun-tauns,Luke's co-pilot traveled with a group of taun-tauns, he slept on them for warmth, and he defended the taun-tauns from wampas that attacked. He ate the meat from the Wampas that he killed.71.202.224.114 01:48, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep your fanon off of Wookieepedia. Either you or your friend just made that all up. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 12:25, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The truth is we don't know what happened to Cody. He either died or is still alive elsewhere. He could be a rouge or an ally. He could be in the alliance or still with the empire. I know it'd be good to know at least what happened to him, that way, it'll give us all some closure on his fate. --Natldsbluedelta353 11:09, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * That's all speculation. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 13:59, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Your right. Well anyway maybe he was killed on hoth or endor but there is a better chance that he livedThire 4477 00:45, 29 July 2007 (UTC) Okay i'm sorry. as much as i know about wookieepedia i'll keep fanon off.Thire 4477 18:42, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, that's just a fanon assumption. Cody hasn't appeared in any source post-RotS, and he has never been stated in canon as being on the second Death Star. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 14:19, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Saying he was ever on Hoth or Endor is also fanon. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 01:06, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Fine. If it's fanon then that narrows it down. you should know what happens to him. Every other comment is a waste of spaceThire 4477 00:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * No, we don't know what happened to him because no source says anything about that. And FYI, fanon doesn't narrow down things. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 15:52, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Fears
It says Cody's fears were vindicated. But that doesn't make sense, as why would Grievous's starfighter leaving confirm that Obi-Wan was dead?
 * Cody probably thought that a Separatist took the fighter, since he saw Obi-Wan fall down into the sinkhole. Admiral J. Nebulax 12:48, 30 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * When I wrote that, I did it under the assumption that Cody was not convinced of Obi-Wan's death (which is why he sent down those Arakyd Prowlers to make sure). In the RotS novel, the Prowlers are destroyed by some sort of dianoga-like creature. Cody watches Obi-Wan fall into the catacombs, sends down probe droids to look for his body, looses contact with them only minutes later, then hears that General Grievous' personal starfighter has just blasted past his blockade. Makes sense to me. His fear was not that Obi-Wan was dead, but that he was still alive. -- AdmThrawn --
 * Good point. And the "dianoga-like creature" was a nos monster. Admiral J. Nebulax 21:32, 30 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Different Clone Commando or Cody?
I found this picture of a clone commando on Wikipedia by the name of CC-3309 nicknamed Ace. However, on the top right corner, it looks like the name Commander Cody. Can anyone tell me who this really is? Cato Neimoidia 02:50, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Italic text'Bold text'THERE IS NO COMMANDO NAMED ACE ON WIKI I SEARCHED 19 TIMES!!!!!!!!!AND I CANT FIND IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!Senior Commander Cody 13:21, 29 June 2007 (UTC)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 * Probably concept art for Cody. But it would be interesting if this was another clone commander called "Ace". Admiral J. Nebulax 20:37, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Said Cody concept art is from his Databank update. Looks like this is a fan-made variant, using different colours to create a fanon character - Kwenn 18:56, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it does look like it is fan-modified. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 18:58, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Take a look at the kama for proof of that - Kwenn 19:06, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's the first thing I noticed about it. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 19:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed, probably mediocre fanart. -LtNOWIS 03:39, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Should the image be deleted? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 11:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Calm down, Cody. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 13:47, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Your image is a red linkThire 4477 20:20, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Image
Erm...who's bright idea was it to use a toy for the infobox pic? Can someone please revert?--Clone Commander CT-5619 helmet comlink 15:25, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll take care of it. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 15:35, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much, Admiral.--Clone Commander CT-5619 helmet comlink 17:29, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
 * That's what happens when images are uploaded over another one. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 20:20, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Holding rank over Jedi
so a clone marshal commander has command over a corps. Does that mean cody could give orders to jedi brigader generals and padawan regiment commanders?
 * No. Jedi are still higher in command. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 12:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Emperor or Vader killed him?
Do you think it's possible? We know how they don't tolerate failure.--Rune Haako 20:17, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * No. It was beyond Cody's control. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 21:08, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * It is possible, however, I'd like to believe that he's still alive, either in the Empire, or with the Allinace. --Natldsbluedelta353 11:04, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Again, that's all speculation. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 13:59, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Killed or incapacitated

 * If you go to the battle of utapau article in the behind the scenes section it will tell you that cody is killed.but in the CC-2224 article behind the scenes it seys he is knocked out which one is true.Thire 4477 20:25, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The Behind the scenes section is out of universe; in that case, it's describing Lego Star Wars, which is non-canon. So, Cody doesn't die. -LtNOWIS 20:40, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks!Thire 4477 22:33, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Chest armor
what is the strip on his chest plate. 216.26.200.220 07:26, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It appears to be similar to the rank plate for Imperials officers. Whether or not that's what it is in regards to Cody is unknown, though. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 11:10, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Renegade Squadron
I don't remember Cody being mentioned in Renegade Squadron. Is this true? LethalReflex Commlink 01:37, 7 November 2007 (UTC) no but his helmet is used for the arc unit customization.

Questionable Picture
There appears to be a spam photo of a random woman running past Cody in this article.Standard 01:18, 21 March 2008 (UTC) It's a "fan" pic. Removed. Someone get a real image, please.
 * That's Ahsoka Tano's leg. Graestan ( Talk ) 01:21, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think that that's Ahsoka in the picture. Her leg doesn't have red skin like a Togruta's does. RC-3396
 * Sorry I was wrong, that's Ahsoka wearing her white pants. 14:17 RC-3396

Name, again
This needs to be moved to Commander Cody or Cody. He is almost never referred to as "CC-2224", so there's no point in using it. The closest thing to a definite policy on this issue (though I know it's not one) is WP:NC and it states that "Generally, article naming should give priority to what the majority of English speakers would most easily recognize, with a reasonable minimum of ambiguity, while at the same time making linking to those articles easy and second nature." This seems like a perfectly rational approach to me. CC-2224 is not what "the majority of English speakers would most easily recognize", nor does it make linking to the article "easy and second nature". Darth Prefect 05:13, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * As said at the start of the page, Cody is a nickname. We use their proper, original and official (in-universe speaking) names for page titles. Klow 21:04, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you please point me to where that is stated as policy? Thanks. Darth Prefect 01:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Nothing? If there's a policy to back up your statement, please indicate where it can be found. And, anyway, why is "Cody" any less official than a "name" given at birth?  Why is Jacen Solo at Darth Caedus?  He was Caedus for, what, a few months?  Why is Shira Brie at Lumiya?  How are their taking on new names to establish their identities any different than a clone given nothing but a number taking on a name to establish his?  Cody is Cody.  That's what he's called by the people who know him, so that's what he should be called here. Darth Prefect 03:22, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Scars?

 * I was just looking at the character guide on cartoonnetwork.com and I saw that it shows Cody with scars around his left eye and on his forhead around there. I just wanted to know if that should be considered canon, or not. We might want to add a picture like that from the show. User:WILDEYE N-25 14:36, 25 October, 2008
 * I would think that it would be canon.  IFYLOFD  ( And now, young Skywalker, you will die. ) 21:38, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, but in Episode III he doesn't have anything. So if someone could help me understand, then that'd be great. User:WILDEYE N-25 14:48, 25 October
 * Bacta treatment, perhaps? QuiGonJinn (Comlink)[[Image:Quigonheadshot.jpg|20px]] 10:29, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

As you can see on the pic, he does have the same scar in Episode III. Mauser 10:34, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I never noticed that. Thanks for showing me though. User:WILDEYE N-25 12:23, 26 October

Unlock
Please, unlock the page so we can add information from Rookies. Thank you. QuiGonJinn (Comlink) 10:21, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * See my msg below if you need pages unlocked in the future. Greyman ( Talk ) 22:10, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Greyman, would you mind unlocking the page again? I waited to see if the other user would start a discussion about the main image here after you locked to page, but so far they haven't. I saw that SFH had reverted said users edit, and when I saw them re-revert SFH's reversion, I backed up SFH. I'm all for having a helmet-less image of Cody for the infobox, but there are live action shots like this one for the infobox. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 22:02, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I have no problem unlocking the page, and as always, JMAS, I never assumed you were the one to blame -- you're a veteran around here, and I could tell you were backing up SFH. Also, in the future, if you need a page unlocked, please ask me on my talk page as I only saw your post here by pure chance of looking at the recent changes :) As shown in the article history, the article would have automatically unlocked in a few days anyways. Greyman ( Talk ) 22:10, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Order 66
Why didn't Cody's training, that "designed to provoke independent thought", cause him to question or disobey the order.

Death
I heard somewhere but i dont remember that Cody was killed by captain tarpals on naboo (idk tarpals is the right name. its the gungan who hated jaar jar and fought with him in the battle of naboo) is this canon?