Talk:Anakin Skywalker/Legends

Nick Name
I thought he was nicknamed Ani by Padme and Palpatien, not just his mother He was called Ani by his mother,and Jar Jar,and Padme,and Palpatine too.KindGenius 17:31, September 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * His mother gave him the nickname when he was really little. and it's Palpatine jedi_master425
 * I'm not sure about Palpatine, but Jar Jar is a "yes". 66.25.254.123 08:30, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

I think Qui-Gon called him Ani as well. --The Force 5 06:26, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * This conversation has been over for a year. Please note the timestamps and don't ressurect dead topics. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 17:37, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Picture
Can we switch the main picture of anakin with the main picture of the chosen one article. I think that picture would look better here [Azen Trayon]

Quote
Can we make the main quote into He&hellip;is the Chosen One. He&hellip;will bring balance. Train him&hellip;|Jinn's dying request to Kenobi|QuiGonDyingWish-TPM.ogg|Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace}} by Qui Gon
 * The current quote works fine as it is. The nominated quote simply isn't as focused or specific.  CC7567  (talk) 05:04, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Vader was not that confident before he fought Galen Marek
8goodking 17:06, April 18, 2010 (UTC) I already made modification to the main page because I do not buy the idea that Vader was fully anticipating his victory against Galen Marek. In that cutscene in The Force Unleashed, the Emperor gave Vader the order to stop Galen Marek. Vader neither moved immediately or replied "Yes, my master.". Instead, he paused there and tipped his head down for a second before he walked away in silence. I could almost imagine what he was thinking: "What? Me?" or "Oh crap!". Yeah Vader told Galen Marek that he still had much to learn. However, I bellieve that was just a taunt from Vader. Vader has been closely monitoring Galen Marek so if he underestimated the young Jedi he must be very dumb.

First was: "Anakin Skywalker was a legendary Human male Jedi Knight who served ..." Now is : "Anakin Skywalker was a Force-sensitive Human male who served..."

First was better. Who change it?
 * I don't know who did it, but the later one is less POV, and thus better and more fitting.--Dionne Jinn (Something to say?) 14:26, May 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * But he was a legendary jedi knight so if his was changed to force sensitive male then shouldn't every other jedi's that says that be changed too? if not then change it back.

Sith Sacrifice
I have a question about his Sacrifice, For me, it is no doubt Padme, he killed the only person he truly loved and thus erased all attachements. but he did not do this willingly so i dont know if it can be "Sith Sacrifice", I read in "behind the threats - Sithů, that his sacrifice was Mace Windu and Jedi Order Itself, but   i really do not know about it. He did not kill Windu and Jedi Order Was destroyed after his Aprenticeship. So my Question is this: Is there any Canonical source of what exactly was his Sith Sacrifice?--ScorpiO 17:35, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

He never had a real sacrifice before apprenticeship. but he respected windu. --76.88.96.40 16:31, June 10, 2010 (UTC) roku07
 * And by slicing off Windu's hand, he lead to his death. This show's that he was willing to sacrifice not only windu but the order its self in order to gain the power he needed to save Padme. jedi_master425

Power
In the force unleashed Galen Marek uses the force to pull down a star destoyer, and is very powerful. we all know that Anakin had the potential to be the most powerful being to ever exist had he not sustained his injuries. Would Anakin have been able to do this around the time of revenge of the sith since he surpassed most of if not all the jedi masters in raw power? jedi_master425


 * You mean pulling down a Star Destroyer like Marek did? Of course he could, even as Vader he could. The problem though was Vader did NOT have the opportunity or the need to do it. Star Destroyers were on HIS side. But as to actually doing it? No doubt he wouldn't have any problem with it. He might get tired of the effort as a half-machine Vader, but as Anakin, he has the powers to do it. Questorminator 11:00, June 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for clearing that up. I love Marek's character and how powerful he is and everything, but sometimes it seems like they're trying to make him a little to powerful. jedi_master425


 * I think the reason why he seems so powerful is because of the fact that it was a video game and they had to emphasize how a force-wielder uses his powers. Also, most Sith or at least Sith disciples, abuse the Force. If Anakin didn't get maimed on Mustafar, we probably would've seen a significantly powerful Sith doing what Marek did and more. Questorminator 04:16, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

OH!!!!
vader is my fav. sith-in-a-suit-man-that-looks-so-scary-if-he-tries-to-kill-you lol, to many -'s
 * That's great, but not terribly relevant. --Imperialles 22:44, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * nope, it aint. But this is a discussion page, so who cares?


 * Yes, but please keep comments in the range of improving the article. And sign your posts darth vindus and 62.49.92.201. brightfur 21:32, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

The logic behind why the picture is there
The last time I checked this discussion tab, somebody mentioned that the reasoning behind showing EP III Anakin as this article's main image was the following: It was his 'latest' (in terms of canon) physical appearance as Anakin, and not Vader. However, there are two things that are fundamentally wrong with this picture, if that logic is to be followed: 1 - This is arguably a picture of Darth Vader, not Anakin Skywalker. Clearly, this Anakin is giving in to his anger, which is very suggestive that we may be looking at early Darth Vader instead. 2 - The EP III appearance *was not* the last physical appearance of Anakin in the movies. The last physical appearance of Anakin was him as that Shakespearean actor who was hired to play the role of the dying Anakin in EP VI, which would mean that his face, after Luke has taken off the mask, is the correct image for this article by that logic. Now, obviously, that would not make a very good image, so it would most likely be best to make an exception here. Taking all things into account, who is more easily recognized? Hayden Christensen, or Darth Vader's suit? If a person who knows virtually nothing about Star Wars searches "Darth Vader" and sees Hayden Christensen, it would stand to reason that they would be very confused. Another thing to consider is this: the image for the article "Chosen One"/"The Chosen One" (whichever it technically is) has an extremely similar image of Hayden Christensen, making the articles almost redundant in that regard. Here is my opinion: we switch out Hayden Christensen for an image people will recognize immediately, regardless of their knowledge on Star Wars: Darth Vader's suit. Besides, technically speaking, Darth Vader did make the switch back to the light side *before* the removal of his helmet, so an image of an expressionless Darth Vader does not necessarily mean it cannot be Anakin underneath. I normally let these kinds of things go, but when people make arguments that hold fundamental flaws (like the reasoning behind choosing Hayden Christensen) it drives me crazy to no end. Bleah. Xanofar 08:43, August 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Apologies for the difficulty you will probably have reading this. If you click "edit", you can see how I intended it to look originally. I don't know if it's allowed or not, but if somebody knows enough to alter the appearances before I figure out how to (in the eventual future) feel free to 'clean up' my previous post to reflect that. Thanks. Xanofar 08:46, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Order 66
In the beggining summary, it says fewer than one hundred jedi suvived Order 66, but the main page for Order 66 says closer to two hundred survived. not too important, but I'd like to see it change.

Tag Trolls
I think this article has been Troll Tagged.
 * What are you talking about? 1358  (Talk) 09:35, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Battle between Kenobi and Vader on Mustafa
"pleading with Vader to concede defeat and return from the dark path" It is not clear that Kenobi wished for Vader to return from the dark path. In fact, it could be interpreted that Kenobi wished for his former apprentice to die, but was pleading for him to give in so as to avoid having to kill him brutally as he did (and rather grant him a more peaceful death by submission or a death to the lava).

This article is FAR too long!!
This article is so long that it's impossible to get an overview of the life of the most important character of the entire saga. Shouldn't we shorten it down a little? I think we ought to do like on Wikipedia, i.e. shorten the main article down and move the full text into several sub-articles.--90.185.27.224 17:06, October 10, 2010 (UTC) Ohwell, have spoken my point, don't need to push it more. Thanks for your reply. Well see what happens=) --Draii 20:45, December 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * That is not how Wookieepedia works. Articles here are comprehensive, not massacred.  CC7567  (talk) 20:26, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * But still, I think that policy ought to be changed. Articles are meant for enlightenment, not confusion. Apart from extremist fans, no one would even consider reading this whole article, making it impossible to get an actual overview.--Ørsted 16:48, October 11, 2010 (UTC) (That's my new username. :-) )
 * Feel free to raise the subject in the Senate Hall, although it is unlikely to get much support for obvious reasons. That said, this is precisely what introductions and well-titled section headers are for, so that people can find what info they want. Bear in mind that people would complain just as easily if we weren ' t fully comprehensive. NAYA   YEN   19:15, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree that this is a titan of an article. And I understand that it all should be there, since it's all about the same person. But since Anakin has such an distinct "before and after" in his life, when he turned to the dark side, perhaps this could be turned into two articles; One Anakin Skywalker (before he turn) and one Darth Vader (after he turn) refering timewise to eachother. --Draii 11:03, December 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * I doubt that will happen, for reasons stated above. But even if it did, then the same would have to apply to Jacen Solo/Darth Caedus, Dooku/Darth Tyranus, Alek/Malak, A'Sharad Hett/Darth Krayt and every other Sith Lord that started out as "someone else" before turning to the Dark Side. JRT2010 11:43, December 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * True, there might be alot of characters that could fall under the same category. But I don't think that it should be done every time a character has a change of heart. But it could be a solution for extremely long articles like this one, to find "chapters" and create extra pages. Perhaps there would be some trouble with sources and such spanning over multiple pages. Don't have a exact plan, just think the article is very long.
 * If you don't desire to read the whole article, chopping it to smaller pieces wouldn't make you read it either. And for not wanting to read a long article to get an overview, intro section is there for this purpose. –Tm_T (Talk) 20:50, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

*TFUII SPOILER* needs mention
The Force unleashed II novel ends with Darth Vader being captured by the rebel alliance and en route to Dantooine, i believe that should be mentioned in the article, I cannot edit.98.175.79.2 19:26, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * At the very end, however, the scene shows Boba Fett flying off into lightspeed with the rebels. I doubt that the writers would upset canon to the point to add a random capture without there being a way to connect it to the film the game precedes. I believe Boba Fett actually got hold of Vader before the rebels were able to go to lightspeed with him, but since it looks like this is just implied, I do not think it should be added just yet. Kaitco 03:16, October 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with you that Boba Fett got hold of Vader as if I recall correctly from the book, Vader owed Boba payment. The Novel never metioned Slave 1 following them into hyperspace it just ended with them jumping into hyperspace, I still can't wait to play the game. 98.175.79.2 23:07, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

The word vader
The word "vader" means "father" in dutch

That fact is already in the article. See Behind the Scenes.WIERDGREENMAN 17:05, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Anakin's Hair Color
I saw in the physical description about his hair color being brown as an adult but I consider it to be more of a dark blonde. .

That isn't really relevant, as the majority of wookieepedia would need to agree to get what's listed changed. What you're posting is only your opinion. And please remember to sign your comments with four tildes. brightfur 21:38, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

Hero Cycle versus Hero
Whoa, a recent edit just pointed out that the BtS info on The Hero is written by Raglan, but the information following it is from Campbell's "Hero's Cycle" from Hero with a Thousand Faces. Someone should fix it...that isn't a lazy bum like me. -Zekk_Skywalk 02:36, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Chronological Order
I had noticed how the events some episodes in the Clone Wars were out of order: The skirmish with Cad Bane about the Holocron and Boba Fett's bounty hunters on Vanquor were after the events of Hostage Crisis. However, as seen in the episode Lethal Trackdown, Commander Ponds is killed, and the Vanquor part wouldn't have been able to come after the Hostage Crisis, as seen in the article. Also, the first Cad Bane events took place before Hostage Crisis, so there's my reasoning for the changes.-- Shadow34 00:40, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

Sloppy writing
Whoever is updating the article to correspond with the latest TCW episodes: I salute your spirit, but your grammar and spelling is, at times, atrocious. Please try to conform to the high-quality standard Wookieepedia strives for. -- Darth Praxus  ( Did somebody order a miracle? ) 17:55, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

The fabled Darth Vader with a green Lightsaber
While watching the original episode 4, (not the remastered version) my brother noticed that Vader had green lightsaber while they were escaping the Deathstar and the blast door that Vader was behind, he had a green lightsaber. I rewound it and sure enough, a green blade, with a red blaster shot going by for clear contrast. I think the green blade was the original part of the prop that wasn't edit out or replaced with the glowing red blade.--Laghing rabt 22:07, May 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * It wasn't green. It was a white color from the rotoscoping lightsaber prop and it was not properly enhanced with the post-production red-colored treatment by ILM the first time around. This production error has been fixed in the remastered version.  Gethralkin  Hyperwave 18:28, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Ahsoka
How did Ahsoka particiapte so much in the Clone Wars when Anakin was only knighted after hs mission to Praesitlyn, which occured about 30 months A.B.O.G., 6 months before the end of the war? The TCW project seems to be very sloppy and would be better if it was declared to be non-canon. GeneralKenobi96 15:33, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * This is not the place for Lucas bashing and complaining about TCW. Anakin's knighting had been retconned.&mdash; TK-999  Era-imp.png( Rise of the Empire ) 15:41, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Opening quote
"I wish I known him" should be changed to "I wish I'd known him". I would have but the page has been locked. If you're going to lock it, get the spelling right.

2.221.24.249 22:09, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Main Quote
Can we make the main quote into Luke: "There is still good in him. I've felt it." Obi-Wan: "He's more machine now than man; twisted and evil." I think it defines Anakin Skywalker much better then the current Main Quote. Luke think there's good in him while Obi-Wan think thinks he's completely evil. While Episode III's quote just show Obi-Wan loose all Hope on Ankain. While Episode VI's quote show Luke's Hope on his father that there is still good inside him. --Cococrash11 07:55, December 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * That quote can go into the Luke section of the article's P&T.  JangFett  (Talk) 08:15, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Title of page
Anakin's Sith persona seems to be more well-known than his non-Sith persona. Can we change the title of the page to Darth Vader instead? 67.169.72.3 17:17, December 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * No, see here for our naming conventions. <- Omicron (Leave a message at the BEEP! ) 18:25, December 24, 2011 (UTC)