Talk:Darth Malak

Bastila Shan was never Dark Lord of the Sith. She lived before the time of multiple Dark Lords (during the New Sith Wars) and she never succeeded her Master in either the canonical Lightside ending nor the alternate Dark Side ending. QuentinGeorge 00:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * At the time there was only one Dark lord at a time, that bein Malak. Bane's rule of two had come into effect yet. Jasca Ducato 08:54, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * I think I may know what happened to Malak's jaw. On the Jedi Civil War page it says that Revan and Malak battled with Revan coming out on top...it's possible and plausible. RushinSundaws
 * Speculation that they even battled, so far as I know. Though I personally think it is the case, the game merely states Malak "grudgingly" assumed the role of apprentice. I take it as they battled and Malak lost, but it's not fact, I think. --Fade 17:27, 15 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Eye color
What is Malak's eye color? Judging from KOTOR's opening picture, it can be brown, green or even red. - Sikon 10:47, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * From the texture files, a sort of light orangey brown. I'm just calling it brown. Lord Hydronium 20:18, 16 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * That was probably his eye color when in the grips of the dark side of the Force. -- SFH 20:20, 16 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Next Dark Lord of the Sith?
Would it be appropiate to place all three of the Sith from the second KOTOR (Nihilus, Sion,and/or Traya) As the next Dark Lord in line? Being that they seemed to be in control of the Sith Empire at that time. Redemption
 * There was a discussion and we collectively decided that Traya, Nihilus and Sion were never actually "Dark Lords". QuentinGeorge 06:06, 20 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Jawless Malak = Injured Malak?
How did Malak suffer the injury which is implied by the Jawless Malak picture? - TopAce 19:17, 6 Nov 2005 (UTC) {195.92.168.176 08:00, 26 January 2006 (UTC))
 * It's not revealed in the game, but it's hinted that he was injured by Bastila when trying to convert her to the dark side. However, by the time of the injury he already had an artificial jaw. - Sikon [ Talk ] 06:40, 7 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Really? Where in the game is that hinted? Kuralyov 06:46, 7 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Well... I just thought it was quite obvious when Malak spoke about his new apprentice. Looks like it wasn't. - Sikon [ Talk ] 07:28, 7 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * I think it's pretty obvious he had the wound throughout the game, and aquired it sometime between the end of the Mandalorian Wars (he has a whole jaw in the Dantooine vision) and returning as a Sith. My personal guess is that Revan gave it to him, after which Malak "grudgingly" assumed the role of apprentice. --Fade 23:05, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * How could a Jedi Sentinel injure a Sith Lord? - TopAce 15:32, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Jedi Guardian/Sentinel/Consular are gameplay features. The parts where Dorak says "become a Jedi Guardian/Sentinel/Consular" are about as canon as when Trask says stuff like "use your security skill to unlock the door"... anyway, Malak wouldn't be able to instafreeze a Jedi sentinel (except, you know, when he does it to your character), so they'd stand a good chance ;)


 * Do we really even know Malak lost his Jaw to a Lightsaber hit? It could ave been done by anything. HavetStorm 16:30, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * It's in his article on the Databank --Fade 16:33, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Fighting style
Is there any information on what Form Malak specialized in? --Maru (talk) Contribs 06:34, 13 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * I doubt there is any information on what form any KOTOR character specialized in, save Vrook, Kavar and Zez-Kai Ell. - Sikon [ Talk ] 06:38, 13 Jan 2006 (UTC)

I know there isn't any reference to Malak's lightsaber style, but considering Malak's powerful physique, one would probably think that Malak was a master of Form V: Shien / Djem So. LordRevan
 * that'd get the article a conjecture tag thoughHavetStorm 18:25, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Malak and Revan - trained at Dantooine
Were they? I'm aware of what the biography on Malak says on the KotOR website, but I hold just about as much faith with that as I do with the KotOR Chronicles. Nothing in the game suggests that, if anything it makes it pretty clear that Revan and Malak were trained on Coruscant.

Zhar: When I was still on Coruscant, Revan and Malak often came to me for additional training.

Speaking of which, where does the information for Zhar being Malak's master come from? Revan and Malak went to him for *additional* training... doesn't screech "was Malak's Master" to me.

Actually - this entire article seems to be full of inaccuracies, it is strongly suggested during KotOR II that it was only upon arriving at Malachor V that Revan learnt about the Star Forge, which is what led him to hunt down the Star Maps - yet this article talks about them discovering the first Star Map before the Mandalorian Wars? Care to explain the Sith Robes Revan was wearing?

That said, it is possible that Revan's appearance in that dreamsequence was more of a representation of how your character perceived his past self as opposed to what he was actually wearing at the time...

(195.92.168.176 07:54, 26 January 2006 (UTC))


 * With regards to Revan's Robes, follow this link.
 * With regards to discovering the first Star Map. The Trayus Academy on Malachor V has nothing to do with the Star Forge save how they are linked by Revan's fall to the darkside. The first Star Map was discovered before the Mandalorian War.
 * With regards to Zhar's quote, it actually goes "Revan often came to me for additional training" not Malak. (I think, they were talking about Revan, not Malak at the time}
 * With regards to where they were training, we are not told and as such do not know. Nowhere is it implied that they trained at Coruscant.
 * Jasca Ducato 19:39, 29 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Been a while since I spoke to Zhar, but doesn't he say "While I was still on Coruscant, Revan and Malak often..etc." --Fade 18:28, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Species
There's really no reason to think he's Ratataki, is there? Certainly nothing in canon about species at all.


 * Databank has him down as human. It's been reverted now, anyway. --Fade 16:55, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I saw this mentioned as his speculated species on the TFN forums earlier today. Thanks for catching this, Havet. It's removed. --Imp 16:57, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * no problem. saw it at TFN too, thats what made me check.HavetStorm 17:11, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Stop Swappping the Image

 * If you're all going to keep swapping those two images around perhaps there shold be some sort of vote on it Personally I prefer the 'artwork' one to the promo one. HavetStorm 23:16, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I prefer the promo but then again, I'm the one who uploaded in the first place so I'm partially to blame. :P Redemption 23:12, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I much prefer the artwork; it goes with the 'head and shoulders' lead in policy, and, because it's a piece of art, downright looks better than a graphical image which looks entirely boring, I feel. I'm not sure what Robtheanimewhatever means by repeatedly swapping Revan's, though. --Fade 23:48, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
 * The policy is promo images get priority. However, being that this is an official piece of artwork, its up for debate. Redemption 23:57, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I uploaded the artwork originally but I didn't intend to have it as the main image. Someone else did it, maybe Jack Nebulax, not sure off hand. Anyway, I prefer it as the main image and it has been like that for a while now. --DannyBoy7783 01:59, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, my image seems to be more of a "official" image since its background isn't distracting and focuses on the one character while giving a good view top to bottom. But it's up to you guys...Redemption 03:16, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * No offense Redemption, but your last comment is really just your opinion. Neither image is really much better than the other. I like the artwork because it is official and it has more flair. It makes the page a little more exciting. Also, it shows a close up of Malak which tends to be the general practice around here when possible.--DannyBoy7783 03:26, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Well...isn't that the whole point of this discussion: which image is better? Isn't that all based on opinion? I think the current has more of an encyclopedia look. Just like you think the art one has more "flair". Redemption 03:56, 16 February 2006 (UTC)