Forum:SH:Image policy

Hi, What the policy with before canon images from old photoshoots or models from ships? I was discussing with Lewisr, because Lexi Dio/Canon has a bad quality picture and Lexi Dio has a better one, but it started a revert thing because the legends one is from a legends source, but the new book from canon has almost the same image, just the hands are in another position, both photos are from the old photoshoots for Ep II.

My question is if its ok using a better quality picture from an old promo photoshoot released before the legends/canon separation in a canon article? I think that should apply only if image is the same or just with modified posture, because its not like it comes from a comic or a art image for a legends media, its from a promo shoot for the episode, the example that come to my mind its like not using Obi Wan promo shoot for Ep III because its from legends. The character is even the same, the new book confirmed it.--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 02:17, May 29, 2017 (UTC)
 * If I had my druthers I'd agree with you here. The policy as has been enforced (inconsistently) seems to be that canon articles can only contain images from canon sources, but I would assert that promotional images of canon subjects like this shouldn't really be nitpicked over. If you were to ask Pablo or anyone else which image is canon the answer would almost certainly be "those are promotional images of a character staring into a camera, neither are canon because they never did that outside of a BTS photoshoot," or more likely "huh?" Which is to say that promotional BTS images of canon characters really shouldn't be subject to this kind of policy, just do what you can to make a presentable article&mdash;in this situation, the "canon" image is just not presentable. Trayus ( Academy ) 03:04, May 29, 2017 (UTC)
 * I've been thinking the same, especially because it doesn't represent an action just the character and if both legends and canon say that they're the same a promo photoshoot can be used in both articles--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 04:11, May 29, 2017 (UTC)
 * Any admin with an opinion about this? --DarthRuiz30 (talk) 14:13, May 29, 2017 (UTC)
 * Anyone else who wants to make an opinion about this. I pretty much agree with Trayus, but before making any edit. I would like to hear someone else opinion in this Important matter --DarthRuiz30 (talk) 06:47, June 1, 2017 (UTC)
 * Although I'm not an admin, I concur with your and Trayus' opinion. -- Lelal Mekha  The Uprising crest.png(Audience Room) 06:50, June 1, 2017 (UTC)
 * Totally agree with this --189.211.1.146 22:28, June 2, 2017 (UTC)
 * I think you still have to keep them separate. In the case of Lexi Dio, for instance, the Legends picture&mdash;while it came from the same real-world photoshoot&mdash;represents a completely different version of Lexi Dio than the Canon picture. You essentially have to treat them as if they are distinct characters from one another entirely.  IFYLOFD  ( Talk ) 22:55, June 2, 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm new but I've seen many articles in here with the same image in both canon and legends article. So I think that should be addressed. For example so we can't use Obi Wan photoshoot pic in the canon page, since by that logic it would be a different character?. I mean is just a promo photoshoot used in both articles. --189.211.1.146 23:01, June 2, 2017 (UTC)
 * I would be in favor of changing images in that case as well, provided that the image in question solely appears in a Legends source. The Lexi Dio image was in the Databank, a Legends source, and doesn't seem to reappear in a Canon source yet. If the Obi-Wan Legends article uses a photoshoot picture that appears in a Legends source but is then reused in a Canon source, then I'd say it's fine.  IFYLOFD  ( Talk ) 23:05, June 2, 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for the answer IFLOYD but In my opinion that doesnt makes sense. Its kind of like the fair to assume species, ship models and planets. Like Trayus said if you ask any tory group member they would say that its the same. We need to use more the logic in this case its not like we took the image from a comic or art from the legends continuity, its from Episode II if you see the movie and find the character its going to be wearing the same costume --DarthRuiz30 (talk) 23:38, June 2, 2017 (UTC)
 * The problem is, that image isn't from Episode II. It's from a photoshoot. Those photos are only defined and canonized by what sources they appear in, not their proximity to Episode II. It's already been well-established that not everything tying in with the original six films are canon, including the novelizations and so on.  IFYLOFD  ( Talk ) 23:41, June 2, 2017 (UTC)
 * The image with the same outfit, same face and different hand position make it different in canon terms? --DarthRuiz30 (talk) 23:46, June 2, 2017 (UTC)