User talk:Havac

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Archive: Archive One

Quotation question
Hi, Havac, I have a query!

Question
Is it seen as proper to quote P.O.V. prose? It's actually quite difficult to come up with examples, but try this for size:

"Every time the disease had cropped up, Mara had focused her strength, had focused the Force inwards, and beat it back." (p. 81 of paperback Vector Prime)

So that's Leia's 3rd person point of view, it isn't speech, and I don't believe (correct me if I'm wrong but I doubt I am) it could ever be quoted in an IU article, e.g. Mara's. It isn't quoted anywhere btw, in case you're worried.

Examples here: So can you quote thoughts? I suppose Corran Horn's internal monologues in the X-wing series would be an example. They're italicized, and essentially 1st person, but they're still not speech.
 * The lead quote in The Commodore article. However, I don't know if you have Allegiance, so this may not help.
 * If you check the history for the Duel on Terephon, you can see that the user who created the article used quotations from Traviss' prose in Sacrifice as part of the article. I cut them out when I expanded the article (badly, I'll admit, but it had been a WIP for about a month).
 * Zekk also has a suspicious lead quote, qhich looks like it's been taken from the text, and credited to Jaina's 'thoughts'.

So in the less fiddly question, can you only quote the spoken word/direct telepathy etc?

I'm relatively confused, and don't like the idea of users quoting the author instead of the character (though obviously that's a self-contradictory statement, you know what I mean). I was wondering what the policy was.

Thanks, and sorry for any poor research on my behalf, as well as eating up you discussion page. Harrar 23:24, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Quoting OOU prose is a huge no-no. Shouldn't happen. Thoughts are iffier, and I prefer not to use them if you've got anything else that can do the job. I've used direct first-person narration before, in BoShek's article, and I wouldn't be opposed to quoting thoughts, occasionally, if it's made clear in the attribution that they're thoughts, but I'd only do it in the most extreme circumstances. I'm not sure that there's any actual policy on it, though. Havac 23:32, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, well I've seen a few examples - I disagree with it on principle, I guess, and was hoping it wasn't a growing, sanctioned phenomenom. Without wishing to tell tales, you might wanna explain this to User:Firebird, because three of the examples I've found were from her, and I didn't get a reply when I asked her if it was proper. Thanks for the info. Harrar 23:40, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Labria
Do you have access to the Fact Files article on him? --Eyrezer 13:21, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
 * No, is there something worth having? Havac 17:54, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I dunno, but worth having a look. I'll see if Jaymach will upload. Also while it is in the Appearances there is no cite for the Galaxy of Fear book. Wasn't Boba going to hunt him at one point but got called off the hunt? Is worth mentioning for completeness. --Eyrezer 00:45, 16 December 2007 (UTC)