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Liberation of Coruscant
Please explain why everyone thinks Jar Jar's appearance in this is an "easter egg" not cannon, I still do not understand this. From what I've seen, his appearance there does not contradict anything and should be counted. 68.199.34.30
 * The game is full of such easter eggs. One, I believe, shows Palpatine and Anakin at a Sith temple, but the level itself is set prior to Anakin's fall. Jar Jar appears in the same manner as this - he's not actually part of the level itself, but is only found by revealing the entire map and locating a secret area - \\Captain Kwenn// &mdash; Ahoy! 20:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I understand that. But other easter eggs like Anakin at the temple or the droids on Tatooine can't be cannon since they contradict other facts. Since this easter egg doesn't contradict anything else, shouldn't it still be considered cannon? If not, why shouldn't it be? 68.199.34.30 20:18, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * We don't know Jar Jar's fate post-RotS, so it can't be counted either way. Until then, however, it's best to assume that, since he's not actually part of the mission itself, he's non-canon - \\Captain Kwenn// &mdash; Ahoy! 20:20, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, I won't put that information back in the article again, but just so you know I think that's a stupid policy, Star Wars cannon should try to include as much as possible, the more there is the better. 68.199.34.30 20:24, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not canon because it's not confirmed canon. for one this is pre-Han Solo getting frozen in carbonite. and nobody knew whether that would work. making the assumption that it hadn't been done before. But I wish it was canon. it stands to reason that palpatine would keep Jar Jar on his wall. It's a glorious trophy. The reason he's in the position that he is in.&quot;There is no escape&quot;-Darth Vader 15:31, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

IT'S SPELLED "CANON" 173.230.196.10 16:58, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Rumors of the Past
Back before the year 2002, people told my Jar Jar would die in Episode II, plus I heard that from so many places.

Was I the only one who heard this rumor or did others hear it as well? Double D 01:36, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm assuming that some people Hoped Jar Jar would die, and that may be how they started. However, it appears they were just that, rumors. -- SFH 01:49, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * Interesting, I also heard a different rumor that he was frozen in carbonite, It's almost definetly non-canon but did anyone else hear this?--Thoggnee 20:24, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Senator
Jar Jar Binks was a Representative...not a Senator. Am I wrong? --SparqMan 09:50, 8 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * A handful of sources use the title Senator, notable his Ep II action figure. It is possible an alternate title for "Represenatative" is "Junior Senator" which was thrown around in old WEG sources.  This would also explain why Bail Antilles's aides, Aks Moe's aides, and Orn Free Taa's aides are called "Senator so and so" in some sources, and how there can be more than one Senator for Ryloth, Devaron, etc.JustinGann 10:46, 8 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Tonight's Evasive Action:Prey strip said in aurebesh that Emperor Palpatine sent Senator Binks somewhere, so maybe he is the Senator of Naboo now.--Rune Haako 02:35, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Jar Jar's death
Unlike what the main article states, Jar Jar did die on Alderaan when it was blown up in episode IV, Jar Jar had moved there to assist Bail Organa.

It cannot be any other way, Jar Jar was so annoying (to put it mildly) that the only way I can tolerate his presence is by knowing he died on Alderaan. I cheer every time Alderaan gets blown up in episode IV! --82.156.49.1 03:48, 31 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Fine. Show us a Canon source and we will submit. Until then, STOP PUTTING IT IN THE ARTICLE! -- SFH 04:04, 31 Dec 2005 (UTC) P.h 01:35, 11 Jan 2006 (UTC)p.h
 * Jar Jar hating is so 1999. You'd think the peer pressure wulda worn off by now. --86.135.217.213 02:33, 4 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Binks' death on Alderaan is Supershadow crap. Lt. 1993 20:05, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Naw man, it is true. When they show Aldreraan blow up, there is a little Gungan in the foreground screaming "Wesa dead!" It has to be Jar Jar. Just kidding.
 * Oh come on, you people! Jar Jar Stinks so died on Alderaan!--24.16.119.108
 * Yes. it's very true. After all, you've cited credible sources, detailed comments by the producers and actors, gotten it from George Lucas himself, so he&mdash;oh wait, you guys haven't done those things. -- SFH 02:45, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * WHY DOES EVERYONE THINK JAR JAR DIED ON ALDERAAN AND DIED WHEN IT WAS BLOWN UP????????? Rayman 05:55, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * lucas stated that Jar Jar died on Alderaan people assume that Jar Jar was present when the death star blew the planet up. And it would put and to one of worst star wars charters ever. I do like the idea of how jar jar died in the Robot Chicken special.  crtwilliams2 8:11, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

How did he die in th Robot Chicken special?-LandonJaeger
 * Vader shot him out the airlock of what I suppose must have been the Executor. Unfortunately, he came back as a force ghost just after. --67.142.162.36 02:18, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Lucas comments
Edited this passage: ''Edit: This theory was supported by a comment by George Lucas on the Star Wars Episode III DVD. The information that Jar Jar returned to Coruscant and served the Imperial Senate also originates from Lucas.'' primarily for stylistic reasons. Can someone confirm that my revised text, which states that A comment by George Lucas on the Revenge of the Sith DVD indicates that Jar Jar returned to Coruscant and served the Imperial Senate, is correct? The previous version makes it seem like Lucas has said both that Binks died on Alderaan and that he lived on Coruscant.

Also, wasn't it confirmed that the Gungan on Naboo in the ROTJ victory celebration wasn't Jar Jar? &mdash; Silly Dan 00:26, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I think that the sentence this theory was supported by GL refers to the theory that the "Death of Jar Jar" speculation, perhaps originates from fans who hated him. MoffRebus 23:10, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I thought he did back in the day, but I didn't by any SuperShadowy means, I thought that because I didn't know Alderaan and Naboo were two different planets, so I just assumed (much to my childhood despair) that Jar Jar and all the others were killed by the first Death Star. Naturally, I eventually figured out I was wrong. Not that I cared at that point.84.84.207.58 13:48, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

EU
Don't ya just love how so little EU will touch him? :D Adamwankenobi 12:38, 13 Jan 2006 (UTC) I just noticed something. It says in Jar Jar's bio that he settled down and had a family. There is no proof of that.Hitokiri Akins 20:54, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, he's pretty much got his own Young Reader's series - including a relationship with the female gungan Fassa. Yes, Jar Jar had a girlfriend... QuentinGeorge 21:01, 13 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Someone should probably make an article on Fassa (Gungan). That article leads to a male Twi'lek. -- SFH 21:05, 13 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * I liked Jar Jar's two Tales comics. Kuralyov 23:17, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * That bit of info was based on Lucas' comments on Jar Jar's fate. Adamwankenobi 23:55, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
 * It may be based on that, but it's still conjecture, and has no definite proof in the either the EU or G-canon. However, if someone can provide a link to where it was said or proof that he said it, I will relent.Hitokiri Akins 12:54, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Hidden information on Jar Jar's possible fate

 * If anyone follows the Evasive Action: Prey webstrip, you know that yesterday's strip showed Tremayne watching a Holonet news broadcast. On top of the screen showed a message in Aurebesh and so I translated it and this is what it said.

“In other news... Gungan Senator Binks was sent by Emperor Palpatine to...”

What can be made of this? I have a hunch it wasn't something good. DarthMaul431 01:32, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
 * It confirms that Jar Jar succeeds Padme in the senate, though... QuentinGeorge 01:35, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Who says it wasn't something nice? "Gungan Senator Binks was sent by Emperor Palpatine to..." "...get some delicious ice cream." Or something to that effect. We just don't know. &mdash;Darth Culator   (talk)  02:28, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Exactly. It doesn't confirm his death, only that he was Senator after Padme. QuentinGeorge 05:05, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Why would you assume Palpatine would want anything bad to happen to Jar Jar? Palpatine probably loves having someone that easily manipulated around, I'd wager if anything he'd want more people that dumb on the Senate, not less... after all, it's the smart politicians who can see through Palpatine's lies and cause dissent. --199.79.168.160 06:46, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd have to disagree, with Palpatines mistrust of any non-human . Yes , we all wish he died a horrible death . Of course this happened a long , long time ago sooooo odds are that dork is dead .TK867 22:06, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
 * If Jar Jar continues to be of use to Palpatine, he's not going to squander the advantage by offing Jar Jar just because he's xenophobic. Palpatine's too shrewd a politician to do that - Kwenn 22:08, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I like Darth Culator's "delicious ice cream" theory myself. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 22:28, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Where do people get the idea that Palpatine didn't trust/hated non-humans? A Zabrak apprentice, numerous non-human advisors and aides...  No, I'd say he wasn't anti-non-human at all.  A more suiting statement would be to say that he merely USED xenophobia and racism inherent in the Core's vastly human majority against the mostly alien Rim.  Why?  Same reason EVERY dictator NEEDS an enemy to survive.  -SWVRoma
 * And Thrawn.... Cutch 05:40, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

My personal theory is that Prolonged exposure to Jar Jar is what caused Palpatines xenophobia. I mean just look at the hatred Jar Jar generated from fans over the course of 3 movies. Imagine have to be around him everyday and have to engage in serious discussion with him.

Picture
I would like to see a good picture of Jar Jar up here from Episode I. It was, afterall, his most prominent time in G-Cannon. Would someone please put one up?--66.188.62.225 19:48, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. Adamwankenobi Talk to me! My home. 20:02, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I've put the AOTC pic back in the main box, because it's a less distracting pic of him. QuentinGeorge 22:49, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm sort of an unbiased third party here, I don't care either way, but... "less distracting"? a) How is it less distracting, and b) distracting from what? Cutch 04:10, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Simpsons Reference
Comic book guy, on the Simpsons, is shown sleeping with a Jar Jar doll. Can't remember the exact episode, though.

There was also the Jar-Jar knock off, Jim-Jam .TK867 04:22, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Jar Jar racism controversy
I noticed that this article contains no information on the controversy concerning a connection between Jar Jar and black people (in most cases, Jamaicans). This includes Lucas' quotes on the theory, the "Jar Jar"/"Jah Jah" issue, and et cetera. Should this article be unlocked for the time being? I can supply information on the matter if need be. (In fact, Wikipedia has a good deal of information on the controversy as well.) MC Otaku 09:49, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Some information is already in the second paragraph of the BtS section (though it doesn't mention Jamaicans specifically.) I suppose the article could be unprotected now, though. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 12:27, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, the theory is dumb, especially the Jamaican bit, and I don't think is needed in the article. QuentinGeorge 01:57, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree that it's silly, but at the very least it should be pointed out that the controversy existed. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 02:16, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I think the whole Jar Jar racism arguement is silly. Lucas made Jar Jar for one reason. He wanted a character his young children would understand in his movies. They relate far more to a buffoon than a wise jedi. He's childish comedic relief.&quot;There is no escape&quot;-Darth Vader 13:16, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Jar Jar appearing in Galactic Battlegrounds is an Easter egg...
...so I am removing the last sentence which speculates "he may have been present during the Liberation of Coruscant."

Jar Jar in the battle of naboo
Yeah sure he sets of those energy boalls and blew up a few driods but i believe this article is exaggerating the number of droids killed.-jackchen123
 * I changed it, sign your posts with four ~ in the future, thanks Jedi Dude 12:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Gungan voice at the end of special edition/DVD ep. 6
The gungan voice and the gungan on top of that building at the end of RotJ does not serve as proof of Jar Jars survival up to that point in time, or that it was even him, but I thought it was common fan speculation that it was. I was surprised not to see any mention of this in the article.DarthMRN
 * So is it the same voice actor or not? 68.44.13.236 07:41, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry but perhaps under the appearences section in the article, someone could list Return of the jedi and then after that say (possible appearence)
 * It's too speculative. And please sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ).  CC7567  (talk) 19:51, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, it is oficial that it is not him, but it may be his son Abso Bar Binks

Texas A&M?
Jar Jar was created by a Texas A&M Alumni? Could we get a source? How do Gungans represent A&M students at all? A thumbs up is the indication that they are related? And them being somewhat clumsy and stupid might relate to an aggie, but was it intentional, I seriously doubt it. Stupidity isn't an exclusive trait to an aggie. Cull Tremayne 18:30, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

George R. Binks
I think it's pretty clear that both the George R. Binks and the one involving Senator Jar Jar talking to Sidious (among other things) are non-canon. Is there any particular reason why they're included (even with those tags)? Eggmanland 17:49, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I didn't do it. .  .  .  .  07:16, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Main Image
Vote. -- Redemption Talk Uglykotoricon.svg 15:16, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * If there aren't any other votes then the image will be replaced by image 2. -- Redemption Talk Uglykotoricon.svg 21:11, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Image 1

 * 1) Other one looks like a computer game. And it looks a tad blurry. .  .  .  .  22:18, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) The other one's from a trading card! - Milo Fett Comlink 15:33, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Image 2

 * 1)  Redemption Talk Uglykotoricon.svg 15:16, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 15:28, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) Imp 15:33, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) Adamwankenobi 15:54, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 5) General Grham 23:06, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Rayman 05:56, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Jar-Jar's son
''After Jar Jar's retirement, he found a wife and the two had a son who they named Abso Bar Binks. He was a kind father and always tried to bring presents home to both his wife and children, but the presents were always confiscated by the Empire at checkpoints. This led his son to join the growing Rebellion, and join the crew of the Tantive V.''

Is there any source for this information? 24.158.130.161 08:23, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * No. It's obvious fanon - \\Captain Kwenn// &mdash; Ahoy! 08:31, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, there is. It's from Star Wars Manga 1. Kindly check the edit next time, before you say that. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 17:16, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
 * This is no fanon, but it's totally ridiculous that this story is taken seriously.--Sompeetalay 16:44, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Lethal Alliance?
I heard a rumor that he was in the Lethal Alliance videogame. Can anyone confirm this?--Ranat 23 13:17, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I never saw him.

*something*
Sometimes Luke Skywalker or Leia knew Jar Jar Binks?

Star Wars Tales
I think that references to Star Wars Tales could be retained; even though its canonicity is disputable. The story of the early life of Jar Jar is interesting. However, in the article, coming towards the "Clone Wars" section, the article gets too "choppy" from so many Star Wars Tales warnings. I suggest that we lump all the Star Wars Tales material in one section. What say you, fellow users? Gel Maethor 08:12, 5 February 2007 (UTC), from the Philippines.
 * No...because then it would not be chronological. .  .  .  .  23:22, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Featured Article
"I have a bad feeling about this". I propose locking the page to new or unregistered users when it becomes the FA since theres alot of animosity towards said article. I hate you Jar Jar... The Ravager 07:33, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah... A lock would be good. Seconded.84.84.207.58 13:50, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

"Online Poll"
The "online poll" referred to in the Behind The Scenes section is from Supershadow.com! I don't think he can be trusted. We all know he's a fake. Why should we include his poll results in there? Everything else he does is regarded as complete fanon. I think we should tag this as a "SuperShadow creation" so that everyone knows that the poll is not credible. Thoughts? Smuggler Freak 01:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Has gone uncited too long. Removing. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 02:22, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Smuggler Freak 13:31, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Lead quote
If only... if only... the lead quote could be:

"The ability to speak does not make you intelligient. Now get out of here."

- Qui-Gon Jinn to Jar Jar Binks

LMAO! Adamwankenobi 04:05, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Adamwankenobi. That's probably the best most favoritest quote in all of Star Wars, and I think it is probably the best quote representing Jar Jar.--Crion87 21:23, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Jar Jar Rocks!
Why don't people like Jar Jar? He rocks! Someone give me some support here. Maxi6

Someone please tell me why they don't like Jar Jar!

People don't like Jar Jar because he is an annoyingly slapstick character more suited to a Spongebob cartoon than Star Wars. Also, it seems to me that they could have left the character out entirely, and the movie wouldn't have been much different. 12.218.145.112 18:22, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * If not for Jar Jar, they wouldn't have had the Gungan army to fight the droids. Also, they would have missed out on a chance to use lots of cool special effects. :) --Crazy Jedi Girl 20:40, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but this isn't the place for discussion like this. Them's the rules. Unit 8311 13:14, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

A Question
In The Phantom Menace, when Jar Jar, Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan are travelling through the planet core, Jar Jar starts to panic, and Qui-Gon puts his hand on Jar Jar's shoulder and says "Relax." Jar Jar then goes unconscious or something. Was Qui-Gon mind-tricking Jar Jar, or was that some other Jedi power?
 * Just a Jedi Neck Pinch. 71.227.210.212 02:22, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 * ...And what exactly is a Jedi neck pinch?
 * Jedi Neck Pinch? Thats Star Trek, not Star Wars. I suppose the nargles are behind it. 00:47, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

Canon vs. non-canon
What's the deal with the information from Failing Up With Jar Jar Binks and Melvin Fett in the middle of the article? There's an "ambiguously canon" tag, but the articles about the stories themselves and Jar-Jar's appearances section say the stories are non-canon(and they pretty clearly are). [user:Thefourdotelipsis] says further up they should be presented in chronological order, but the entries for Dooku and Darth Maul have the non-canon information in the "behind the scenes" section of their articles.

Furthermore, if we were to follow this example, wouldn't we have to do things like put a section in Yoda about Vader killing him in Infinites:ESB in between the "Next Skywalker" and "Death" sections? InSaneWeTrust 03:58, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Forum:CT Archive/Canon/noncanon says we only keep ambiguous Tales content in the main body. I guess we'd remove those stories, if they're confirmed non-canon (and "Failing Up" definitely is) &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 12:00, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, I went ahead and made a non-canon section based on the Darth Maul page(though obviously there's not nearly as much). If somebody wants to flesh it out, that'd be great. I kept the George R. Binks and Tantive V stuff in the main body because I'm not sure if they're confirmed to be non-canon. InSaneWeTrust 22:12, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Jar Jar in TFU
In the Xbox360/PS3 versions of TFU, Jar Jar can be seen in frozen carbonite on Kashyyyk (screenshot). So...can this be considered canon? :P Drewton   ( Drewton's Holocron ) 01:51, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, though it might be some other Gungan. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 12:05, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Jar Jar in TCW
Plenty of info now available from TCW VG to warrant adding his mission with Padme to Rodia in the new series. Also, here's two pics. Apparently he tried to use a Force block or something. http://www.tierfon.be/images/stories/CW%20tcg/card114.jpg http://www.tierfon.be/images/stories/CW%20tcg/card010.jpg71.217.5.241 05:28, 10 October 2008 (UTC) I feel sorry for jjb when men say they hate him Master Gresh 00:58, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh...That hurts my brain...this is gonna be good! Dr.Kermit ( Babble here ) 22:02, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

New Voice Actor?
Was JarJar recast for the "Dooku Captured" episode of The Clone Wars?

It sure the hell didn't sound like Ahmed Best.


 * It wasn't. According to the episode guide for episode 12, it was a "BJ Hughes."  ZEM  talk to me!   06:52, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Revenge of the Sith
Minor detail, in the BTS section it says Binks only appears in two scenes in Ep III. He actually is in three. With the Senators following the Battle of Coruscant, while Palpatine declares himself Emperor, and at Padme's funeral68.60.63.150 18:06, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Possible Death
I need someone to confirm this, but I think in Battlefront II, the Clone Narrator says that Naboo's senators were "sent home in various states of dismemberment". Quite probably remember it wrong, but it should be checked out...????