User talk:Drewton

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TFU images
Please don't continue uploading images from The Fource Unleashed. There is no place to put the images. Articles for the characters are not long enough to accommodate several images yet. Thanks -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 19:41, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

I hadn't put in the picture of the Apprentice pulling down the Star Destroyer, if you thought that since you only removed one and said 'There is no room for either of those images'. I agree, though, that there were too many pictures in the Secret Apprentice article. Drewton http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/c/c0/SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg/25px-SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg 03:24, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

KotOR 31 image
Try cropping the image above the shoulder. Then see if anyone likes it on Zayne's talk page.--69.131.125.190 07:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I cropped it, and a bigger image was released today so the cropped image is bigger than it would have been before. Drewton  http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/c/c0/SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg/25px-SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg 01:46, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Edit warring on Secret Apprentice
I'd like to point out Three-revert rule, a policy which your next edit to Secret Apprentice may be in breach of. I hope you can work this out on the talk page, rather than risk being blocked. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 01:38, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I said I wouldn't revert it again in the talk page if it was reverted back, but thanks for the reminder :) ! Drewton  http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/c/c0/SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg/25px-SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg 01:42, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Can we agree on neither of us editing the SA article in respect to what we discussed on the talk page until we get input from other users? The Secret Apprentice  [[Image:Secretapprenticefull.jpg|20px]] ( Personal Comm ) 20:08, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, that's what I was hoping for too.  Drewton  http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/c/c0/SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg/25px-SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg 20:28, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Star Forge Duel images
Hey, Drewton. Nice job uploading the images on Darth Malak's talk page. How did you take those pictures? Are you using the X-box or PC version of the game? Can you post instructions on my talk page on hoe exactly to take pictures like that? Thanks.--Jedi Kasra 16:10, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * But are you using a digital camera? Could I use the X-box version of the game for screenshots?--Jedi Kasra 21:19, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Merging the Duel on the Star Forge article
Hey, Drewton, I'll help you merge the article to the Battle of Rakata Prime article if you want. I don't know how to get rid of sadi article once the we transfer the info the the BORP article, but I can get Ataru to do it for us. Just let me know when you want to merge it.--Jedi Kasra 16:46, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for offering, but I'm not sure whether it should be merged yet. Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 17:26, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Just so you know how, if you do decide to merge. Once the information is transferred to the Battle of Rakata Prime article, on the Duel on the Star Forge article you want to have only the following text:  #REDIRECT Battle of Rakata Prime  and save the page. That will then automatically redirect to the correct article. Hope that helps. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 00:28, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

WookieeProject Knights of the Old Republic
Would you be interested in joining this WookieeProject?--Jedi Kasra 17:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I just signed up :) . Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 17:35, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Darth Malak
Hey, good job on the article! I added more sources and fixed some stuff here and there, but good job!--Jedi Kasra 00:12, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Is there any specific information you think should be added, or things that should be fixed/expanded?  Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 00:15, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No, not really. Unfortunately, the "Powers and abilities" section can't yet be expanded since he hasn't done anything really in the KotOR comics, and he hasn;t appeared in anything else as a Sith Lord. We'll have to wait 'til the Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide and the miniature set come out.--Jedi Kasra 00:18, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Please try to find the sentences in the article that begin with "And".--Jedi Kasra 02:55, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I did a search and there aren't any besides in the quotes. Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 17:32, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, good. I believe we are done with the article,we just need to ask Goodwood to review it, and if he gives his stamp of approval, we should ask him to support it's entry in the WP:GAN. We should probably ask the objectors to overview it as well, such as Chack Jadson, and AdmiralAckbar.--Jedi Kasra 23:15, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll ask Goodwood if he reviewed the article.--Jedi Kasra 00:50, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, Drewton. I just wanted you to know that I asked the objectors to the nomination to delete the nomination. Thanks for supporting the nomination, and I hope you can still work woth me on it, because I will nominate it again in the near future.--Jedi Kasra 07:03, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that was the best idea for it. I have some of the 'Adasca's plot' comics, so I'll rewrite some of that section.  Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 12:20, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright, I honestly think the image on the left would be better than the image on the right:

Speaking of which, do you own the Shadows and Light comic? Because it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to upload the two images of Malak in there. Also, you, if you can, might wanna delete the two Alek images from Darth Malak's image category, since they belong in Alek's image category. Just a thought.--Jedi Kasra 17:46, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

The image on the right isn't perfect, but I think it works better where it is because it's one of the only two close-ups. The one on the left looks more like the one of him leading the Sith army, just in a different pose. That's just my opinion though; you can change it if you want.

I agree. Or I could take a screenshot of Malak torturing Bastila.

I don't own Shadows and Light, but I think Redemption does so I can ask him. I didn't know there were pictures of Malak in it before. Drewton  18:00, 12 May 2008 (UTC) "Well done, Revan. I was certain the defenses of the Star Forge would destroy you, but I see there is more of your old self in you than I expected. You are stronger than I thought; stronger then you ever were duing your reign as the Dark Lord. I did not think that was possible."
 * I added another section under the "The Search for the Star Forge" section called "Sith Apprentice". Take a look at it.--Jedi Kasra 00:48, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * He was a Sith apprentice much earlier than that though, basically when 'The search for the Star Forge' starts. Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 02:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The Essential Guide to the Force doesn't say that they became Sith immediately, though. The caption for the picture of Revan and Malak even says that they were Dark Jedi. It makes no mention of Malachor V save a brief mention by Palpatine, and in the 'Second Sith War section, it even says that it was the Star Maps that led them to Korriban, and that they drew knowledge from the Sith tombs there and declared themselves the new Dark Lords of the Sith. Of, course, it also says that the Jedi Civil War began in 3,961 BBY. But there are a few typos in there. No book is perfect. I'm just sticking to what the book said, and it doesn;t say anything about them being Sith during the Mandalorian Wars.--Jedi Kasra 19:53, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That's a very good point, I hadn't thought about that before...however, Malak's jaw removal shouldn't be in the Sith Apprentice section because in the picture of them declaring themselves Dark Lords Malak already has his cybernetic jaw. And maybe an introduction like 'Malak and Revan were Sith Lords in all but name, until finally they declared themselves Dark Lords of the Sith in ? BBY.'  It also says 'The Sith Lords recovered an ancient Rakatan device'.  Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 14:48, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Then go ahead and add it, and make the changes. Why don't you come on the IRC?--Jedi Kasra 19:28, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Excellent, excellent. You might wanna add these to Revan's article, if not added already.--Jedi Kasra 19:38, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I actually haven't done anything on Revan's article yet, but I hopefully will have time tonight. Hopefully we can make Malak a GA (if not an FA; he has more potentional than Revan) and Revan an FA again!  For IRC, I'm not really as comfortable doing it because of getting a webclient thing.  Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 20:17, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, OK. I think we should wait a few more months before we nominate it again. You might want to add the info to the Jedi Civil War article, if it doesn;t have that info on it, as well. I added the fact that Revan fell to the dark side in 3,961 BBY to the J.C.W. article a few months ago.--Jedi Kasra 20:37, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, I didn't mean anything like only a few weeks. It still needs some time.  Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 20:50, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I added some info in the Powers and abilities section of the article. Do you think you could upload a picture of Malak Force-choking the two Jedi, you know, the part where all the droids attack Revan right after you fight Bastila? Which brings me to another question. Think it's worth it to create an article on the duel between Revan and Bastila, call that the "First Duel on the Star Forge", and rename the current article "Duel on the Star Forge, "Second duel on the Star Forge"? How about the duel on Lehon between Revan, Juhani, and Jolee against Bastila?--Jedi Kasra 16:24, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Very good! Yes, I'll upload it today, and a screenshot of the Star Forge robes.  The first Star Forge duel is short but I think it's necessary; there's a page for the Duel in Fellowship Plaza which was very minor.  The duel on Lehon was very short so I don't know if it's worth making it, unless if it includes fighting the other Dark Jedi in the Temple.  Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 18:29, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * So, will you create the article on the Revan-Shan on the Star Forge duel?--Jedi Kasra 20:11, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, good job with the image. Couldn't get one where you could see him choking both Jedi, huh? I thought that there was a possibility to get one, but I am currently waiting to get the downloads on X-box before I advance any further than Taris, so, it's been a while. Still, great job, man!--Jedi Kasra 20:24, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I did take a screenshot of that, but he's not facing the Jedi; he's in front of them, so it looks odd.  Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 20:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, good job with the new pics, especially with the one in which Alek and Jarael are dueling.--Jedi Kasra 02:59, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Danke! I'm rewriting most of the Alek parts, and it will be much longer than it is right now.  Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 12:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * What do you think of this quote for the "The Star Forge" article?--Jedi Kasra 18:07, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

- Darth Malak to Revan

Excessive images
Stop uploading images that aren't immediately put to use. You've been warned about this before, but I'm telling you now that this is a blockable offense, and you will regret it if you continue. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 21:13, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I was uploading them so that they would be available to people when they needed them. I've been spending a long time doing this.  Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 21:16, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Image galleries on Darth Malak's talk page
Hey, Drewton. Maybe you should delete those galleries, since most of the pics are gone. Also, can you upload a new image for the Star Forge Robes article? Thanks.--Jedi Kasra 14:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello
Hey, Drewton, just saw you on here and wanted to say hello. (I'm from SWFanon.) -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)   talk 14:37, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello! It's good to see you on here.  Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 12:18, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

JMAS
The summary given by the blocking administrator, Lord Hydronium, was "Uploaded fanart image with false source, second time." Basically, JMAS uploaded an image from a fanart site and claimed in the information uploaded along with it that it was from Star Wars Chronicles: The Prequels. There is some reason to believe that this may have been a simple mistake on his part, but since it was his second time committing this particular offense, it was decided the block would stand. jSarek 08:18, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: First or last names
Hey, Drewton. Generally, when first introducing a character in an article, you should use their full name. "Rick Smith was a Human male&hellip;" yada-yada-yada. Then, you should only refer to Rick as "Smith" throughout the rest of the article, "Smith then got himself beat up by a small kid&hellip;". I hope that helps :) Greyman  @wikia ( Talk ) 01:41, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Image
Could you get an image of Revan and Bastila dueling? (with him wearing the same robe as in the Malak-Revan duel) It would be appropriate to put on both Revan and Bastila's articles. Plus, you think you could get a picture of Bastila and the Ebon Hawk crew receving the Cross of Glory? This image could go on all the party members' articles.--Jedi Kasra 18:24, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup, though I'm not sure if Revan having the Darth robes for that duel would be considered canon...but I don't think he'd switch from Star Forge robes to Darth robes between duels ;) . Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 18:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * True, but if that's the case, you might wanna upload a pic of Malak dueling Revan using the Star Forge robes instead of Darth Revan's robes. If only the robes in the first game were like the ones in the second game... The best ption is the Star Forge robes, of course, if you do upload images with Revan using the Star Forge robes, we'll have to put a notice on the image stating that the character's image is customizable, and should not be taken as the canon image of Revan, like the notice on the "Female Revan and Carth image", next to the relationships section of Revan's article.--Jedi Kasra 18:57, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * If only the back of Revan's robes are shown, though, it doesn't necessarily have to be the Darth robes, just black robes which are as canon as in the vision. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 22:38, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

KotOR #29
Oh, man, The new info you added is really heavy! Things are starting to look dark for the characters now, be sure to add the info to Lucien Draay and Revan's articles!--Jedi Kasra 03:21, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * And the Revanchist (faction) article, too! If you don't mind, I'd like your help in sourcing that article. That's one of my favorite articles, and with Atarumaster88's help, earlier this year, merged the Jedi Crusader article that existed into what is now the article in question.--Jedi Kasra 03:28, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, and KOTOR's finally out of Vector :) . It looks even more like Zayne's going to be the Exile/Nihilus now, and have you read the speculation about Nihilus being the Exile?  Zayne's starting to go on the offensive against the Covenant, and Lucien is working on eliminating the Revanchists. I'm really looking forward to Alek and Revan's turn; in the Q&A at the back, JJM said 'the comics will definitely speak to the matter of Revan and Malak - perhaps sooner than you may think!'.  Atris also has a cameo in #29, the new one.  For sourcing the Revanchist article, I don't have all the comics which the Revanchists are in, but I'll see what I can do.  Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 15:49, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Nihilus I have no problem with Zayne being, but the Exile is canonically female. In Revan and Malak's case, I honestly think that Revan is his real name. If there were no Darths that used their real names then I would have a weak argument, but since Darth Zannah used her real name, what's to say that Revan didn't? Must Zannah be the only Sith to use his/her real name? I'd like to read your thoughts on Revan's name. I'll begin sourcing the article shortly, since I have all the comics up to #29. And as far as the Exile, the only thing I've read that is even near that is the thing on Darth Nihilus' article which says that Chris Avellone originally intended for Nihilus to be the Exile's "other half".--Jedi Kasra 20:15, 29 May 2008 (UTC)