Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Loje Nella

Loje Nella

 * Nominated by: Imperial Information Office.svg  AV-6R7  Crew Pit 05:10, January 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: A character who's Bts history is far more interesting that what we actually know of them in-universe.

Ayrehead

 * I think you could expand quite a bit on the ROTJ part of the body. For example, context for Solo and Organa, the fact that the palace is on Tatooine and the fact that Jabba and the court clearly sat in wait in order to catch her. Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:13, January 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * I think it's also relevant to mention that Jabba and many members of his court were killed not long after this. Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:13, January 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * Is the implantation that Nella may have been aboard the sail barge? If so, that Insider article confirms she survived the events of RotJ. - Imperial Information Office.svg  AV-6R7  Crew Pit 21:49, January 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * Ok well firstly, why isn't the fact that she survives ROTJ in the article? Secondly, the reason to include what happens next in the film is that since Jabba is her employer it seems fairly relevant when he suddenly dies given that it would presumably significantly impact her livelihood. Ayrehead02 (talk) 23:17, January 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * The article just doesn't mark a skull next to her name. Expanded. -  AV-6R7  Crew Pit 03:27, January 18, 2018 (UTC)
 * I disagree with the statement of mentioning the Battle of Carkoon. From reading the article, I take it that Nella is last seen when Leia is captured, and I feel like that is adequate to instead simply mention that Leia and Han were both imprisoned as a result, and have the article end there. Also, FWIW Who's Who not having a skull next to names of characters isn't a necessary confirmation of survival. Ortugg and Wittin don't have the skulls, but Ortugg's entry in The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia reveals he died on the Khetanna, and The Official Star Wars Fact File 23 confirms Wittin's death at Carkoon. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 03:16, January 19, 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah ok, Hanzo's right that the skull thing probably isn't worth mentioning. I maintain that Jabba's death is relevant though, so I suppose we'll have to wait for others to weigh in. Ayrehead02 (talk) 13:39, January 20, 2018 (UTC)
 * Can Jabba's full name or species be sourced to the encyclopedia entry? Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:13, January 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * Cited old Databank entry. - Imperial Information Office.svg  AV-6R7  Crew Pit 22:00, January 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * Archives of the old SWBoards can be found here. Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:13, January 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * I can't access the posts in question, as when I try to move to another page of a given thread, I get a 404 error. - Imperial Information Office.svg  AV-6R7  Crew Pit 21:47, January 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * Hmm I hadn't quite realized how hard to navigate that site is. It seems like other pages in the thread are available, but you'll need to go through each of the start points for that thread to see the the different pages, if that makes sense. Ayrehead02 (talk) 23:17, January 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * Looks like the first was archived, but apparently not the second. How do I link to the archive with this template? - Imperial Information Office.svg  AV-6R7  Crew Pit 05:55, January 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * archiveurl is now at your disposal.  Imperators II (Talk) 16:49, January 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * Added. - Imperial Information Office.svg  AV-6R7  Crew Pit 02:05, January 12, 2018 (UTC)

Hanzo

 * I'm making adaptations and sources a formal objection. I saw that the scene with Jabba catching Han and Leia (which includes Nella) is a video clip in Jabba's Encyclopedia entry (I know the link is sadly obsolete, but it is the same one used in the NuCanon Databank entry), and am requesting you to check further materials for the possibility of featuring the character.
 * Nothing in the adaptations. Nothing. Also, I don't think we include those StarWars.com video clips in our articles. -  AV-6R7  Crew Pit 06:15, January 26, 2018 (UTC)
 * I added that source myself, and yes we are supposed to include the old (obsolete) Encyclopedia entries in sources.
 * The intro also needs considerable expansion about the character. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 03:27, January 19, 2018 (UTC)
 * Expanded. -  AV-6R7  Crew Pit 06:15, January 26, 2018 (UTC)
 * Intro should mention the year 4 ABY, and establish that Jabba's Palace was on Tatooine. I also feel like the specific stuff related to her during the Rescue of Han Solo should be changed to something more general, rather than the play by play that was done. Thul Fain's intro is an example of how to write up the intros for those Jabba's Palace extras.
 * Does that look better? -  AV-6R7  Crew Pit 19:16, February 2, 2018 (UTC)
 * Leia should be mentioned as an Alliance leader, as no context is given for her.
 * Added her titles and that she was part of the Alliance. -  AV-6R7  Crew Pit 19:17, February 2, 2018 (UTC)
 * And I feel like her laughing should be moved from the biography to personality and traits. In the biography it sounds a little too play by play, but moving it to personality and traits would be ideal. Further, I think repeating that she was reluctantly working for Jabba and misappropriated his funds in the personality and traits would be ideal, as that's a clearly defining part of her personality. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 02:49, January 27, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

 * Unfortunately, we don't have the old Message Boards archived in any satisfactory manner. Luckily, the species of Loje Nella was the subject of much controversy back in our early days (some users were even blocked over the issue), so we have a general idea of what each cited post would have said. - Imperial Information Office.svg  AV-6R7  Crew Pit 05:10, January 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * Not making this an objection only because I don't know, but "Lapti Nek": The Music Video from Jabba's Palace is listed in her appearances, so would that mean she appeared in the original Lapti Nek footage? If so, this will be a formal objection as that needs to be detailed in the behind the scenes section. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 02:30, February 3, 2018 (UTC)