User:Thefourdotelipsis

"At the risk of sounding negative: No."

- Leela

"There'll be no one to stop us this time!"

- My earliest Star Wars memory

"...it's more encyclopedic"

- Inadvertantly my new catch-cry

"Having a quote that I coined myself here would be arrogance to the nth degree."

- ....

Yo. No fanfic to be found here - I find that stuff to be both tedious and a waste of time. Here's what you need to know -

So there.
 * Films in order of preference (from favourite to least favourite): V, IV, III, I, VI, II
 * Favourite all-time character: Darth Vader
 * Favourite EU character: Borsk Fey'lya, followed closely by Mitth'raw'nuruodo and Gilad Pellaeon
 * Favourite Jedi: Plo Koon
 * Favourite Sith: Darth Vader
 * Favourite Rebel: Lando Calrissian (just because of the way James Earl Jones says Calrissian)
 * Favourite Imperial: Firmus Piett
 * Characters that I find interesting but underdeveloped: Wade Vox, Echuu Shen-Jon, Emon Azzameen
 * Favourite all-time ship: Slave I
 * Favourite starfighter: TIE/D Defender
 * Favourite capital ship: Super-class Star Destroyer Executor. None of this Executor-class Star Dreadnought bull - it's the Super-class, and it always will be.
 * Favourite location: Cloud City
 * Favourite planet: Vjun
 * Favourite game: X-Wing Alliance
 * Favourite novel: Shadows of the Empire

Ethics: "After a really series of complicated events..."
 * The Special Editions are canon. Don't spend your time whining about an OOT long gone...
 * The EU is a part of the story, but I don't consider it when watching the films.
 * Don't spend 90% of your time on Wookiepedia editing your user page, be it tweaking or writing inconsequential and hammy fanon.
 * Be flexible. Be open to others ideas, and don't just arrogantly claim that you are right and that this image of Rune Haako is not going to be changed.
 * Portraits in infoboxes. It's encyclopedic.
 * Wookiepedia is an encyclopedia, not an information stash. I'm looking at you, Palpatine.
 * If you don't like GL, say it, and then let it be.
 * Star Wars: Legacy has the potential of being the biggest mistake the EU has ever made. I'm talking bigger than The Crystal Star or even Dark Empire
 * Matthew Stover, Timothy Zahn, and James Luceno have saved the EU from certain death.
 * Saxonites and fleet junkies: You're at the wrong franchise.
 * Fandalorians: Grow up.
 * Palpatine beat Yoda. Deal with it.
 * Mace out-duelled Palpatine. Deal with it.
 * Aayla is dead. Deal with it.
 * Leland Chee is on something.
 * So is Rick McCallum

- Rick McCallum

Rants and Musings...and Reviews
Some people have Fanon - I have Rants and Musings. Every so often, I'll be posting my thoughts on a certain subject, and you can leave comments, if any of you actually bother to read it. In reality, I'm doing this for my own piece...peace of mind. Maybe I'll dump it all on my starwars.com blog...which I have...right here. If you've got a topic you would like me to talk about, leave it on my talk page. Oh, and these Rants and Musings do not in any way represent Wookiepedia; they just represent me.

Here are the archives - feel free to comment on them, though.
 * Rant I: Star Wars: Legacy: Stradley's childish retort (31 October, 2006)
 * Muse I: Dark Empire: I'm back, baby!
 * Rant II: LucasArts: "But what about canon?" "Ah, we'll just stick some on the A-Wings"
 * Review I: Path of Destruction: When canon doesn't matter...to the author

Muse II: A New Hope: Star Wars (1948)
"20th Century Fox invites you to the latest motion picture extravaganza! A Technicolor film of unparalleled wonder and excitement! A story that will thrill, chill, and transport you to a galaxy far, far away! David O. Selznick's Star Wars!"

I often like to wonder, or ponder as to what a certain film would be like, had it been made in a different time period. My Fair Lady in the 70s would have been swanky. The Untouchables in the 50s would have been cheesy. Eras can often be encapsulated in film. Not so with Star Wars. Whilst Star Wars could only have done as well as it did in the 70s, it does not signify the 70s as a whole. The music is a giveaway, as is the sensibilities. Lucas often cites serials from the 40s as his inspiration, and indeed, all of the Star Wars films have that same corny derring-do that featured so heavily in low budget studio films of the time. But what if the film was actually made in that time? Replace the cast and crew with those around at the time? I think we could do that. Not literally, of course, but it's fun to think about it. Of course, Lucas would remain as the creator of the story, but all the other slots are open. And this is who I would fill them with: (forgive my tendency to cast British)

Roddy McDowell as Luke Skywalker - McDowell, probably best known as Cornelius in Planet of the Apes was never nominated for an Academy Award in his 70 year career (though he came awfully close in Cleopatra), has all the right earnestness and eagerness needed for a character like Luke Skywalker. He got his acting break playing Huw Morgan in 1941's Best Picture, How Green Was My Valley. Watch him in that, and you'll see where I'm coming from in terms of casting him as Luke. And like Mark Hamill, he would have been able to carry the character arc across the next two films. All he needed was a convincing American accent, which I have no doubt he could pull off. Crazy Trivia Which I Just Found Out: He voiced Dr. Jervis Tetch in "The New Batman Adventures"...the series in which Mark Hamill played The Joker. Crazy.

Audrey Hepburn as Leia Organa - Uhm...I'm just gobsmacked whenever I look at this woman in her prime. I mean...casting her would have given credence to several of Lucas' "She's beautiful" lines. She was also a very talented actress, and was able to handle the quickfire dialogue handed out to her in so many of her films. She hadn't been discovered by 1948, but then, this is all hypothetical anyway, so who cares? Hepburn won an Oscar for Best Actress in her breakthrough film, Roman Holiday in 1953. For example of her playing a princess, see Roman Holiday. To see a three-dimensional, fascinating performance, see Breakfast at Tiffany's

Cary Grant as Han Solo - Had the class, the style, the talent. Brilliant at comedy. I'm not sure how he would've handled the ruggedness, since he usually played sort of middle-class characters. But I'm sure he would've done well. Grant never won an Oscar, but was nominated twice: for Penny Serenade and None But the Lonely Heart. He also co-starred, in real life, with Hepburn in 1963. For examples of Grant's comic talent, see His Girl Friday. To see how he handles action, see Gunga Din

Laurence Olivier as Wilhuff Tarkin. I was inclined to go with Basil Rathbone, but I couldn't say no to the greatest actor of all time. And my favourite actor. Olivier is just...amazing. I can't tell you, you have to see him in action. He could play any protagonist and be endlessly enduring, or play any villain and be absolutely terrifying. Olivier won his only Oscar for acting in 1948 for his portrayal of Hamlet, Prince of Denmark in the film...Hamlet. Interestingly enough, Olivier gave Peter Cushing his big acting break in the same film. For examples of Olivier's talent at playing a villain, see Richard III, Spartacus or Marathon Man.

Felix Aylmer as Obi-Wan Kenobi. Aylmer was always playing old fuddy-duddys. But he could also inject a fair amount of weight and gravity to the roles he would play. A character actor, yes, but a damn fine one. For example of him playing a wizard-type character, see Knights of the Round Table.

Director - Michael Curtiz. A wonderfully varied director, Curtiz is best known for his direction of Casablanca, for which he won an Academy Award. He would be able to inject the right amount of action and style, and make it very, very watchable. For examples of his work on adventure films, see The Adventures of Robin Hood. You may have seen footage of it on the 2004 Star Wars DVDs.

Writer - Joseph L. Mankiewicz. Though Lucas would come up with the story, Mankiewicz would make it...good. He could turn the most inane dialogue into the snappiest, the most intruiging, the most memorable. I don't know how he would handle something like this, but I can assure you that it would be a huge improvement on what it is currently.

Anyway, that's how I think it would go; I'm curious though, as to how you would hire. So, responses to this should be two-parters. First - judgement on my choices, second, your own ideas.

You know I make sense: The Four Dot Elipsis.

Comments

 * Whoa. Someone's been doing his homework. Cary Grant as Han Solo... now that I have to see. - S olus  (Bird of Pre  y)  02:07, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * No homework. Film is my passion. Other than Star Wars. .  .  .  .  02:58, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * And I thought that I was into old black-and-whites... you beat me to the punch! - S olus  (Bird of Pre  y)  03:53, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I wish I could see that... Maybe Lucas will clone himself, so after the 3D, 4D, Polka, and controversial all-Ewok and Legacy-era versions of the Star Wars movies are done, he'll remaster it a few dozen times, do special editions where "Wicket threw first" and such and such, and then get bored and go back in time and film all his movies at every periodic decade since film was invented. One can only hope. ---  V ladius M agnum ( Clan Magnum )[[Image:dasymbol.gif|20px]] 19:23, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * It's a good cast, but I would have cast Maureen O'Hara as Leia, and Edmund Gwenn as Obi-Wan. But, I wonder, who could have played Darth Vader? Sir You Know My Name, N.K.-S.R.T. 20:28, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Boris Karloff? - S olus  (Bird of Pre  y)  20:55, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * No, I mean for voice-work. Maybe Orson Welles? Sir You Know My Name, N.K.-S.R.T. 00:50, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, yes, I can see where Welles would be the perfect really-low-bass voice. - S olus  (Bird of Pre  y)  01:13, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * You know, for the sequels, I think the perfect Lando Calrissian would be Errol Flynn. Was he ever the ladies' man! Sir You Know My Name, N.K.-S.R.T. 01:24, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, I meant to put down Orson Welles for Vader. Forgot. .  .  .  .  03:40, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * No responses to my casting of Maureen O'Hara, Edmund Gwenn, and Errol Flynn? Sir You Know My Name, N.K.-S.R.T. 05:58, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Flynn is a good choice, I feel that O'Hara's performances are too varied in terms of quality. And I've only seen Gwenn in Pride and Prejudice, so I can't really judge yet. .  .  .  .  06:36, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * You've never seen Miracle on 34th Street? Well... in case you haven't, Edmund Gwenn plays a wonderful Santa Claus there. I hope you're into old black-and-white Christmas movies! Sir You Know My Name, N.K.-S.R.T. 06:47, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, despite not being American, I love all those corny old Capra-esque films. .  .  .  .  07:42, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Haven't seen Pride and Prejudice in a while, don't remember which part Gwenn played, but I do remember Miracle on 34th Street. Me? I like corny b&w sci-fi. I like a lot of b&w, but corny sci-fi is a favorite. And cheesy giant bug movies. - S olus  (Bird of Pre  y)  16:39, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, would you agree on Gwenn? And, you know, about Basil Rathbone: I, for one, think he'd make a terrific Ozzel. Don't you? Sir You Know My Name, N.K.-S.R.T. 17:14, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Gwenn? I suppose&hellip;but I think there could be better. Does Rathbone choke well? - S olus  (Bird of Pre  y)  18:48, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I dunno, but he duels beautifully. .  .  .  .  23:26, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, then, who would be good for Piett? Or the Emperor, for that matter? Sir You Know My Name, N.K.-S.R.T. 01:11, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Ralph Richardson as either. .  .  .  .  01:18, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Good, but I think Ralph Richardson would be better as Palpatine. Do you think John Clements would make a good Piett? Sir You Know My Name, N.K.-S.R.T. 03:26, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Four Feathers, eh? Yeah, Clements could pull off Piett. But cases like Piett's, I think that Colley's original performance is so damn perfect anyway. .  .  .  .  07:05, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * And what of the droids? Who could play C-3PO? Eric Sykes, perhaps? Sir You Know My Name, N.K.-S.R.T. 21:33, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I really don't know...Sykes would've been a bit young, wouldn't he? Oh, and I forgot to mention - Max Steiner would have done the music. .  .  .  .  04:50, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Sykes would have been 25 in '48, Anthony Daniels was 31 in '77; they were both around the same age. And, I admit, Fourdot, Steiner is good, but I would have preferred Erich Wolfgang Korngold, as his style is very similar to that of John Williams. Your thoughts? Sir You Know My Name, N.K.-S.R.T. 21:22, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, yes, I was waiting for the Korngold mention. Whilst stylistically, Korngold may sound similair to Williams, Williams is a heavily thematic composer; an area in which Korngold was weak. Steiner was thematic however...see Gone With The Wind for just one example. I mean...I can remember segments of music from The Adventures of Robin Hood, and the film does have a fantastic, beautiful (Oscar-winning) score, but It's a real struggle to remember and hum the theme tune. Not so for Steiner's work. .  .  .  .  21:25, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * All right, I concede your point, but what of Eric Sykes? Do you think he would have been credible enough to pull off C-3PO? Or are you a Tommy Cooper kind of man? Sir You Know My Name, N.K.-S.R.T. 01:34, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, and as for the director, what about John Cromwell, who directed Anna and the King of Siam and Algiers, a direct influence on the makers of Casablanca? Sir You Know My Name, N.K.-S.R.T. 01:49, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Sykes would work. I dunno, it's a bit of a strech to imagine. Cromwell...eh, I prefer Curtiz. Or William Wyler. .  .  .  .  04:41, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, then, what about Cecil B. DeMille? He could have turned any film into a spectacularly large, rolicking fun extravaganza. Don't you think? Sir You Know My Name, N.K.-S.R.T. 07:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * DeMille was someone who came to mind. It would certainly have worked with him. Just keep him away from the script. .  .  .  .  23:09, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I was just about to mention the screenwriting. You know, I can see why you like Mankiewicz, but I think a collaboration on the script between him and Howard Koch, who worked with Michael Curtiz on Casablanca, would have worked best. Somehow, I think you would enjoy that. Sir You Know My Name, N.K.-S.R.T. 03:36, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, yeah, Casablanca has one of the greatest scripts ever. Combine Casablanca with All About Eve and set it in space, and cast Laurence Olivier...greatest film ever! .  .  .  .  09:11, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, now that we've established your love for Casablanca, do you think the hypothetical creative team of Joseph L. Mankiewicz and Howard Koch would have worked well? Sir You Know My Name, N.K.-S.R.T. 22:10, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah I would...in fact, that's what I just said. .  .  .  .  03:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * No, not really; you said something along the lines of "Casablanca and All About Eve combined would be the best movie ever!" I'm sorry; I just wanted your confirmation, that's all. Sir You Know My Name, N.K.-S.R.T. 06:08, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I was just using both writer's magnum opusi as examples. Sorry if it was confusing. .  .  .  .  06:09, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * That's all right. Say, do you have anymore cast and crew categories you like to discuss? I'm having a lot of fun talking with you. Sir You Know My Name, N.K.-S.R.T. 06:49, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, that's scary, but OK. Actually...I was kinda thinking that I would start work on another review. Of Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader. I really can't think of any more cast positions to fill, at least not ones that are worth filling. ANH has a very limited cast. .  .  .  .  07:10, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * No, what I mean is that your topics make for very good discussion. Oh, there is one role we haven't talked about... Captain Antilles! How about Alec Guinness? Sir You Know My Name, N.K.-S.R.T. 07:44, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Captain Antillies? All he has to do is get choked. W. C. Fields? .  .  .  .  08:18, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, good, but the reason I put down Guinness is because he was rather young. Also, you must admit, it would be rather amusing seeing an Alec Guinness fresh from Kind Hearts and Coronets getting strangled by Darth Vader. Sir You Know My Name, N.K.-S.R.T. 08:21, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah...but I feel that putting Guinness in a film with Olivier and not giving the former a large role wouldn't work. .  .  .  .  08:26, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Pet Articles
"Slave! I have set my life upon a cast and I will stand the hazard of the die!"

- Richard III


 * Tydirium
 * Rune Haako - Will be featured February 11, 2007. "Easier than the Kessel Run"
 * Maarek Stele
 * Battle of Grassy Plains - Good Article. "Gungan Genocide - rated PG"
 * Battle of Otoh Sancture
 * Panaka
 * Sio Bibble - Good Article. "Unthinkable? I think not."
 * Jar Jar Binks - Will be featured March 7, 2007. "What have I done?!"
 * Rugor Nass
 * OOM-9 - Good Article. "100% success rate, my arse!"
 * Ric Olié - Good Article. "It's got a tick in the corner!"
 * Humungous project that actually came to be | Anakin Skywalker - Revert to Policy. Smartest thing ever.
 * Daultay Dofine
 * Sabé - Good Article. "Yes, it is Keira Knightley"
 * Watto
 * Nute Gunray
 * Star Wars Missions 1: Assault on Yavin Four
 * Star Wars Missions 2: Escape from Thyferra
 * Star Wars Missions 3: Attack on Delrakkin
 * Star Wars Missions 4: Destroy the Liquidator

Member of

 * WookieeProject The New Essential Guide to Characters

Quote of the Day - Successful Noms
"I have a bad feeling about this."

- Obi-Wan Kenobi, Anakin Skywalker, Han Solo, Leia Organa, and a whole bunch of others.

"There will be no one to stop us this time!"

- Darth Vader

"I have brought peace, freedom, justice, and security to my new Empire!"

- Darth Vader

Media

 * The Rebel Thief
 * Star Wars Kids (magazine)
 * X-Wing Marks The Spot
 * Imperial Spy

Characters

 * Q-7N
 * Sprool
 * Vors Voorhorian
 * Rogor
 * Tolok
 * Darlen
 * Deen Voorson
 * Willoc
 * Mavis
 * Tarn (Rebellion)
 * Termo
 * Tix
 * Skeezer
 * Voralla Morbo
 * Guff Twin 1
 * Guff Twin 2
 * Plurra
 * Kevell
 * Gwann
 * Untrilla
 * 2249
 * 1219

Battles

 * Battle of To-phalion Base
 * Battle of Science Station Youst
 * Mugaari Campaign
 * First Battle of Javin
 * Battle of the Tungra Sector
 * Second Battle of Javin
 * Battle of the Bruanii Sector
 * Battle of Spearhead
 * Battle of Spinnaker
 * Battle of Harte Secur

Droids

 * Sith battle droid

Planets/Locations

 * Dennogra
 * Zio Snaffkin
 * Zio Snaffkin Cantina
 * Incom Factory
 * Science Station Youst
 * Docking Bay 72
 * Morbo's Place
 * The Plastoid Pitt
 * Delrakkin City

Vehicles

 * Bail Organa (ship)
 * Sabre
 * Pike
 * Musket
 * Halberd
 * Redkihl Rokk's ship
 * Republic's Return

Organisations

 * Dimok (government)
 * Ripoblus (government)

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Books

 * Jedi Apprentice: The Rising Force
 * Jedi Apprentice: The Dark Rival
 * Jedi Apprentice: The Fight for Truth
 * Star Wars Episode I Journal: Anakin Skywalker
 * The Phantom Menace
 * Rogue Planet
 * Attack of the Clones
 * Jedi Trial
 * Revenge of the Sith
 * Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader
 * A New Hope
 * Assault on Yavin Four
 * Escape from Thyferra
 * Attack on Delrakkin
 * Destroy the Liquidator
 * The Hunt for Han Solo
 * The Search for Grubba the Hutt
 * Ithorian Invasion
 * Togorian Trap
 * Revolt of the Battle Droids
 * Showdown in Mos Eisley
 * Bounty Hunters vs. Battle Droids
 * The Vactooine Disaster
 * Prisoner of the Nikto Pirates
 * The Monsters of Dweem
 * Voyage to the Underworld
 * Imperial Jailbreak
 * Darth Vader's Return
 * Rogue Squadron to the Rescue
 * Bounty on Bonadan
 * Total Destruction
 * Ghost of the Jedi
 * Splinter of the Mind's Eye
 * The Empire Strikes Back
 * Shadows of the Empire
 * Return of the Jedi
 * The Mandalorian Armor
 * Slave Ship
 * Hard Merchandise
 * Queen of the Empire (!)
 * Heir to the Empire
 * Dark Force Rising
 * The Last Command
 * Specter of the Past
 * Vision of the Future
 * Heirs of the Force
 * Shadow Academy
 * Vector Prime
 * The Unifying Force
 * Betrayal
 * Bloodlines
 * Tempest
 * Tales From the Empire
 * Tales From the Mos Eisley Cantina
 * Tales of the Bounty Hunters
 * Tales From Jabba's Palace
 * Tales From the New Republic

Reference Books

 * Episode I: The Visual Dictionary
 * Attack of the Clones: The Visual Dictionary
 * Revenge of the Sith: The Visual Dictionary
 * ''Star Wars: The Visual Dictionary
 * The New Essential Guide to Characters
 * The Essential Chronology
 * Star Wars: The Ultimate Visual Guide

Comics

 * Star Wars Tales Volume 2

(TBC)