Talk:Juno Eclipse

Canon

 * *sigh* Can we please have more video games that directly contradict canon? What's next? A Star Destroyer with a droid captain and a Wookiee first mate? I can't deny that Juno is smokin' in the Imperial dress blacks, but can we get serious here? The Empire specifically discriminates against females and non-humans. It would have made far more IU sense to use Daala as the ship's pilot. Unless, of course, she dies during the course of the game, in which case she wouldn't be alive to participate in canon events that already center around her later in history. That would be one hell of a retcon. My point is this: Daala was stomache-able. I can accept that there was one female Imperial officer who didn't make the official shitlist. But two officers with extremely security-sensitive positions? That's a little hard to swallow. I really hope this game has some hardcore non-canon events in it so we can label the whole deal "heresy."

PS Point of interest: They've basically retconned into existence a class of star destroyer being named after this character. And don't even get me started on Star Wars character named after Greek Gods and Roman mythology *cough* Darth Caedus *cough*Thorvindr 12:42, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Who knows? Perhaps Vader saw her as competent and gave her the job. We'll have to wait for the game to explain. Unit 8311 12:44, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Plus, doesn't this take place at the early stages of the Empire? Maybe the discrimination hadn't take effect yet. -- SFH 16:36, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Besides, does she have an established rank yet? If anything, she may just have a low rank, and that would comply with some of the things I've read in the Jedi Academy Trilogy and Darksaber about females in the Imperial military. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|20px]] 16:40, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * What's the rank in the photo? DAWUSS 02:50, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, the "discrimination" policy wasn't really brought into canon until nearly a decade after the first film. There was some Imperial discrimination evident in the films (especially in ANH), but female and alien Imperial officers have been shown both in old and new stories, regardless. One of my favorite moments was reading a comment on "Boba Fett: Overkill" going "Ugh, a female Imperial Admiral? That's against canon!" or something like it. VT-16 19:15, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * We've actually had female fleet commanders since the Marvel days. -LtNOWIS 07:24, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry for responding to such an old post, but regardless of what the Empire's policy may be, when has Vader(or Palpatine for that matter) ever discriminated against women? There was never any point I can remember in which he looked down on women, and he always treated female opponents(Asajj, Leia) and allies(Ayyla) with the same respect he gave males. By the way, we've had other powerful female imperials: Isard, Mara Jade, Grand Moff Tavira(even if she cheated a bit), Lumiya/Brie, etc. And not only has Juno been used before in the Star Wars universe, but the Star Destroyer thing is silly since it's much more likely(and really, should be obvious) that both are named after the natural phenomenon. InSaneWeTrust 08:43, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

One thing I will be curious to find out is how .... eh.... affectionate... this romantic relationship is going to be. I have a bad feeling about this. Next thing you know it's going to be a repeat cycle of certain people's wishful thinking involving Revan and Bastila, where they wanna' see all the passionate PG-13 love scenes that can be put into one game without getting old and repetitive... DAWUSS 02:50, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I say that we mention that she is cute as a button on the page. Fank 13:49, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Defection?
In the Force Unleashed miniatures set, Juno is listed as a Rebel. I guess this hints at a possible defection in the game (it should also be noted that there is a redeemed secret apprentice fighting for the Rebels as well). 138.38.163.38 14:53, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

I have her pegged as having Chief Bast's rank insignia. Thoughts? -Lynx
 * I believe Nathalie Cox referred to her off-hand as "Captain Eclipse" at Celebration IV. -LtNOWIS 10:18, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * That doesn't mean anything. Anyone who has command of a vessel, regardless of their actual rank, how tiny the ship is, or even if it even belongs to a military organization, is referred to as "captain". Hence "Captain Solo". Shock Wave 08:53, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The SW Technical Commentaries site lists Bast under the category of Major General. You're right, though, Lynx. She has the same rank plaque and cylinder arrangement as Bast. So what's an Army officer doing in command of Black Squadron? -Young coot

Wee!
Yay, another Mary Sue in the SW Universe! Just what it needs! --72.128.211.65 22:39, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Er, isn't a Mary Sue a writer's attempt to insert themselves into the story? So are we saying that Haden Blackman wants to have a romance with the Secret Apprentice? Interesting. Please sign your comments in the future. InSaneWeTrust 08:32, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No. --72.128.211.65 02:48, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Someone needs to change 'nearly all Imperial officer's where played' to 'nearly all Imperial officers were played'

Black Squadron
Are you guys crazy?! Juno couldn't have been the leader of the squadron 2 years after the birt after the Empire. She was still a kid by then. Somebody change the date, for heaven's sake! 12.179.11.22 16:22, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Picture
I changed the infobox photo from this: to this
 * on account of her looking like a cow in the first. Any objections?
 * I'm not really a fan of either. I much prefer this one, personally. -- Ozzel 02:49, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree. It looks like she dyed her hair in the second. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 02:59, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The one without the hat is much better, imo. 72.74.197.103 04:27, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If I had to pick between the two presented, I'd go with hatless. However, Ozzel's is better than both - more professional. 04:55, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, Ozzel's is promotional, while both the others are in-game. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 16:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The latter is at least a little bit better now that it's in its proper proportions. -- Ozzel 09:29, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * if by latter you mean the hatless one. i agree. And frankly i don't like the promotional one.Darth Nikolai 15:14, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

So I guess we'll put it to a vote? I'm pro-hatless. "Am I going to see you again?" :-DDarth Nikolai 07:37, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

2.4 Rewrite
Sorry all, I don't have the game or comics or book at this point, but this sentence seems to read weird for me..."Although mistakenly believeing that the man she was a spy, she quickly discovered that he was, in fact, on a mission to exterminate the last of the Jedi." It's really just the 'believeing that the man she was a spy' part that is bothersome. Is it simply that the word 'she' needs to be removed? Resolve if you can. :) thx. Easy88 11:48, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Taken Care of Darth Nikolai 04:41, 7 September 2008 (UTC)