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Round two
Since the previous vote established no clear consensus, I decided to make a few changes. Drafts 0 and 1 received no votes and have been eliminated. It seems that the layout has been decided, only the color scheme remains unclear.

Drafts 2 and 3, as well as the current main page, have been moved to Main Page/sky and Main Page/earth, respectively (sky and earth are just reference codenames). They use Main Page/uncolored via transclusion. This won't be the case for the final main page.

You can create a new color scheme that will hopefully attract more votes than these two and include it in this poll. To do this:
 * create a page called "Main Page/your version" with its sole content being:
 * copy to the appropriate subpage and edit Main Page/sky/monobook.css or Main Page/earth/monobook.css. These files contain color definitions. It should be easy to understand.

- Sikon [ Talk ] 14:20, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * How come I see no change in color between the two? -- Riffsyphon1024 21:30, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Try reloading both of them. If it doesn't help, purge your cache. - Sikon [ Talk ] 03:29, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Main Page/sky

 * 1) SFH 19:08, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) Kuralyov 19:00, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) --MarcK talk 19:27, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) Commander Jake
 * 5) RMF 21:56, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 6) Darthcraigious 02:51, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 7) MandalorianWarriortalk  [[Image:Mandskull.jpg|25px]] 03:03, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 8) --Levenbreech Vor 11:06, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 9) Themelle444 15:00, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 10) Stake black 16:31, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 11) AdmiralKadann 17:32, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 12) VT-16 18:33, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 13) LandoSystem1138 12:19, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 14) CooperTFN 02:42, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 15) Masran Silvaris 13:51, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 16) – Aidje talk 04:33, 15 April 2006 (UTC) Earth is also fairly good, but I must say that I find Water to be quite hideous.

Main Page/earth

 * 1) Though I still think that the quote/notice should be moved to the top. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 15:31, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) Adamwankenobi 16:44, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) Ozzel 18:35, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) Novajoe23 19:09, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 5) Thetoastman 23:23, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Main Page/water

 * 1) Like Breathes, I don't really care too much for the other two. I prefer bolder colors, and this is what I got when I played around with watery colors.  StarNeptune Talk to me! 06:02, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) Frozenphoenix32
 * 3) MandalorianWarriortalk [[Image:Mandskull.jpg|25px]] 14:38, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) Palpy 15:16, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 5) Amina skywalker 20:07, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 6) TheDarkArchon 00:07, 14 April 2006 (UTC) - Definitely the most asthestically pleasing of the three. The semi-saturated colours work well here.
 * 7) Nice, but something needs to be done about the black text on a blue background. 'Tis not pleasing to the eyes. Adamwankenobi 00:10, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 8) I actually like the dark blue best, though I'm at a loss about what to do to make the text on blue backgrounds more legible. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 15:56, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 9) [[Image:Tbhelm.gif|30px]] Shadowtrooper talk 16:04, 14 April 2006 (UTC) It would be nice to lighten up the colors a bit, but I like this one nonetheless.
 * 10) Breathesgelatin 19:51, 14 April 2006 (UTC) I definitely like the bolder colors of this scheme.
 * 11) I think it's great, just as long as the movies are in italics, which is how it should be no matter what. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:53, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 12) I Like this one the best, though Earth's not bad either. SolusKad 22:28, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 13) Cull Tremayne 06:00, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

No change

 * 1) Jasca Ducato 18:40, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 2)  The Erl of  talk  What I do 20:15, 14 April 2006 (UTC) Ditto this. Not a strong one though, and I'll probably end up striking it out.
 * 3) Dil 04:25, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) KFan II 13:46, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Comments
"Water" has a too bold colorscheme, like an 80s throwback. "Sickly green" ain't my cup of tea. :/ VT-16 14:28, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * To be brutally honest, I'm not a huge fan of either of these color schemes. I may play around with myself soon, whenever I get a chance. Was there a specific reason that these aren't primary-colored schemes? - Breathesgelatin 02:18, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Aren't primary-colored? What do you mean? - Sikon [ Talk ] 03:30, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Both of them seem to have an immense gap in the Expanded Universe box. Is there anything we could do to fill that up, or do we just need to shorten the featured article and DYK boxes? --MarcK &#91;&#91;User talk:MarcK&#124;&#91;talk]]] 04:11, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I think we can always find what to fill that space with - for example, by expanding the navigation section. By the way, I like "water", but why are heading borders black? - Sikon [ Talk ] 09:51, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * "Water" doesn't look too great with black text on a blue background. Might I suggest yellow text on a black background? ;) Adamwankenobi 15:20, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Personally, I think the current main page is fine: why did the issue of a revision come up?--Erl 20:04, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I also like none of these options more than the current page. --SparqMan 20:31, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * The "water" option has a problem: the edit link on "did you know" is hard to find (unless, I suppose, you're an experienced user and you know it's there.) On the other hand, the colour scheme reminds me of the 2nd Ed. West End Games sourcebooks, which I like. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 21:47, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe it's good that it's hard to find - means less vandalism. - Sikon [ Talk ] 00:24, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * If vandalism becomes that problematic, we'd be better off semi-protecting the template. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 02:44, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Can someone please tell me why we're even bothering to change the main-page, because if i'm honest; i don't like any of those. I like it as it is now. Jasca Ducato 09:26, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Where were you during the first vote, where keeping the original main page was an option nobody voted for? - Sikon [ Talk ] 13:37, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I was involved at the naming conventions track, although that's really not an excuse. I'm not violently opposed to any of the options, so if a consensus emerges I won't vote against it. But if more people show up asking why a change is being made, I think we should add that as an option.-- The Erl of  talk  What I do 15:17, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Option added. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 15:55, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Family troubles meant i couldn't get to a computer at home and the site is blocked at school. Jasca Ducato 18:42, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * For those that commented on the black text on blue background, I have changed it to white. I'm still trying to come up with a solution to the link color problem, so if anyone has any suggestions, I'm more than happy to listen.  StarNeptune Talk to me! 19:46, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Anyone else find the white text to be fuzzy? Or is it just that my monitor's too bright? &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 19:58, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Old stuff
 This page is an archive of a community-wide discussion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made in the Senate Hall or new Consensus Track pages rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was no consensus - split evenly between drafts 2 and 3. - Sikon [ Talk ] 14:20, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Draft 2

 * 1) Sikon [ Talk ] 09:04, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) RMF 20:04, 21 March 2006 (UTC) Nice job, Sikon.
 * 3) Sith Lord Remi 03:22, 25 March 2006 (UTC) I'm in. Maybe move the Did You Knows up towards the top?
 * 4) [[Image:Tbhelm.gif|30px]] Shadowtrooper talk 15:12, 29 March 2006 (UTC) I must say, I'm likin' the set-up!
 * 5) SFH 18:40, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 6) TKRKS 21:13, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Draft 3

 * 1) Adamwankenobi 23:16, 21 March 2006 (UTC) I love it!
 * 2) Ozzel 03:34, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) TIEPilot051999 22:25, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 06:20, 1 April 2006 (UTC) Though I think that the quote/announcement should be at the top personally.
 * 5) Lt. 1993 22:25, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
 * 6) Dark Spork 18:18, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Comments
Ping (shamelessly stolen from Wikipedia's new design, to replace the current one on March 19) - Sikon [ Talk ] 11:11, 13 March 2006 (UTC) I really like Sikon's new design. Just a couple of points: --Azizlight 11:32, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I must admit that I prefer the current main page to your suggestion. KEJ 11:15, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Any reference to "Today" should be changed, as Wikipedia's main page is updated daily while Wookieepedia's is weekly.
 * The "Today's Quote" is a good idea, but I think that section could also be useful for important news and announcements relating to either Wookieepedia or Star Wars in general.
 * I like it. Can we centre the header though? Or does that look worse? QuentinGeorge 11:35, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah might look better that way... and put the spoiler warning just underneath the "number of articles" line, rather than on the right. --Azizlight 11:42, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

...and please, for my sake, get rid of all the pink ;-)... And in my opinion 'Did you know'... should still be in a different color from 'Featured article' KEJ 11:38, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Sikon... that new design... is awesome! (Though I do believe that we should change some of the colors to be more Star Warsy.) Adamwankenobi 17:09, 13 March 2006 (UTC) I like it. All we need to do is add to the "Did You Know" section, as it is a bit empty. RMF 21:47, 13 March 2006 (UTC) Wikipedia's new main page is up and running; looks pretty good. I'm ready to go with ours, the only problem I see now is the empty space at the top. RMF 03:03, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I do like the style of the Episodes section. -- Riffsyphon1024 17:24, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * User:Sikon/MainPage2.0/draft1 - got rid of the pink, centered the header, added an "edit" link to "did you know". - Sikon [ Talk ] 18:25, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Can't the "Today's quote" section be changed to a Wookieenews section? :) --Imp 18:58, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, and maybe we should change the clumsy wording of "The Star Wars saga episodes" into something simple such as "The Star Wars movies"? And why are there two dashes by the article count in the header? --Imp 19:25, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Or just "The Saga". The header does look better centered, but it's still not sitting right with me. It feels too separate from everything else. CooperTFN 19:28, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * You should add from newest articles in the Did You Know? section. Lt. 1993 20:43, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I say we move the 'This week's featured quote' nearer to the bottom. Apart from that, it rocks. -- Doo Doo 00:20, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I made a few slight changes to it, based on some of the above suggestions. Adamwankenobi 00:40, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
 * All it needs now is the "featured quote" section moved near the botttom (possibly above the "official friends of wookieepedia" section. Adamwankenobi 07:26, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
 * The Improvement drive and Wookieepedian of the Month boxes need the same amount of padding as the featured article box does... For colors, I have a few SWsy colors/schemes that could be adapted. The ANH palette  would probably be the easiest for now, but I can whip up something that works better with the logo later. -- Dark Spork 15:46, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Any updates on this? Adamwankenobi 02:21, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
 * And the "This week's featured quote/global site announcement" box should be moved to the bottom, IMHO. Adamwankenobi 03:09, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I like the current main page. Sorry Sikon.--DannyBoy7783 03:57, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I think we need to take a formal vote on this, since it would be such an important change to Wookieepedia. Adamwankenobi 04:00, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * It might just be my browser, but I'm getting a weird white bar over the lower half of the tabs at the top on all of them. I'm using Firefox, for the record. - Lord Hydronium 23:04, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Although I support either draft 2 or 3, I voted for 3 due to its color scheme. It just seems more star warsy with the browner tone. And the problem with Draft 2 is its... lack of distinctive color. Maybe I'm being too nitpicky about it, but... Adamwankenobi 23:19, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * A couple nitpicks: No link to newest articles, which I am addicted to. Also, could you sneak in Published_Works_Improvement_Project somewhere? It would really help raise community awareness, and maybe even spawn other specialized projects. Thanks!--Erl 22:18, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I have no issues in Firefox 1.5.0.1, tested on my computer under Windows XP x64 and Ubuntu Linux 5.10 and on another computer running Windows 2000. I may, however, use a better (through Monobook.css/Monobook.js) method of hiding the main page title if this becomes the actual main page. Do you have problems with the current main page, which implements the same trick as these drafts? As for the "newest articles" link, it's in the navigation box in the right column. - Sikon [ Talk ] 09:21, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

When does this vote end? Adamwankenobi 08:25, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * As soon as consensus is found, I presume. - Sikon [ Talk ] 09:23, 29 March 2006 (UTC)


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