Talk:Geonosian dreadnaught

If anyone knows if the Geonosians make or just use this type of warship, please write the correct info, cus I haven´t a clue. VT-16 16:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I imagine that it is not like the off-spelling of the Dreadnaught-class heavy cruiser, and is meant to be "Dreadnought". And I've never heard of this ship. --SparqMan 17:51, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * It´s mentioned in the ROTS novelization and in other CW EU works. From what I´ve heard Dreadnaught is the spelling. I really don´t know what to think of this, since judging from that core ship, the whole thing must be at least similar in size to the Trade Fed battleships. VT-16 18:34, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * can some one put a pic of it on the geonosian dreadnaught file (go to www.warlord. swrebellion.com and go to search then tipe in geonosian dreadnaught and copy the pic of it)anyways it looks nothing like the trade federation core ship
 * Wrong. In RotS, it does look a lot like the Trade Federation core ship, although more "taken apart". Cmdr. J. Nebulax 19:27, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Rereading the novellization again, it is explicit that there is a spherical Geonosian Dreadnaught parked down the sinkhole; not the core-ship of a Geonosan Dreadnaught. What is not clear whether this "Dreadnaught" is the "Dreadnaught-sized" command sphere that Grievous is standing inside, which looks to be a core ship from a TFBB (compare it with the ones taking off from Geonosis in AotC) or whether it is the "starship" that is taking the Seppie Council to Mustafar, which could concievably be another capital ship brought alongside the "quay" of the main hangar. Anyway, I've edited the page to reflect this --McEwok 01:37, 12 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, I myself don't have the RotS book, but from what you are saying, I'm starting to believe that the ship that took the Separatist Council to Mustafar is the Geonosian Dreadnaught. The core ship on the wall of the sinkhole at Utapau is most likely a Trade Federation Droid Control Ship core ship. Of course, there is (so far) no official source regarding the matter. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 13:48, 12 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Agreed, with the caveat that it's not at all clear from the text - and perhaps it's not meant to be. And even if the "Geonosian Dreadnaught" isn't the command post, that doesn't mean she's not another core-ship of the same design; we know that these can operate as capital warships in their own right, as in "The Dreadnaughts of Rendili"... --86.138.82.171 14:37, 12 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Therefore, we have no solid proof to tell which craft is the Geonosian Dreadnaught. Plus, we don't even have a picture of the craft that took the Separatist Council to Mustafar, so, if that was the craft, we would have no image of it. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 14:41, 12 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Reverted VT-16's edits
An explanation of why I've reverted the recent edits by VT-16: The reference is to a "Geonosian Dreadnaught", not to the core ship of anything; and it's the command centre (which almost certainly is a core ship, whether or not it's a "Geonosian Dreadnaught") that's said to be Dreadnaught-sized, in a later scene in the novel. Um, you do realise you're dismissing the possibility that the Geonosian Dreadnaught is another ship that's briefly dropped down the sinkwell to collect the Seperatist Council with the argument that we don't see it in the sinkewell at other times. That doesn't work.
 * It had a core ship-section that was said to be the size of a Dreadnaught-class heavy cruiser. It's diameter would be about 600 m, about 100 m smaller than Lucrehulk-class core ships.
 * The latter is improbable, as no such spherical structure is seen anywhere near the headquarters in any of the scenes in the movie.

On a different note, however, in amongst VT-16's edits, an anonymous user with the IP 85.165.168.196 (VT-16 himself?) has added an unexplained reference to Shatterpoint. Is there a reference to core ships as "Geonosian Dreadnaughts" there? --McEwok 18:15, 11 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * For once, McEwok, I think you did the right thing. So far, I don't think it has ever been said that the core ship was a Geonosian Dreadnought. But I don't have Shatterpoint, so I wouldn't know. Admiral J. Nebulax 18:18, 11 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Since every single overhead shot of the sinkhole throughout the entire film never once shows anything more than one spherical structure at level 10, and Obi-Wan's interceptor arrives right before the council is told to leave, we get an extra long look down the city, with nothing more than the headquarters seen where this supposed "second sphere" is supposed to be. Everything else was to remove your usual conjecture, which of course was too much for you. VT-16 18:25, 11 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Good point, VT-16. Admiral J. Nebulax 18:26, 11 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * And where the fuck is your evidence that this isn't a core ship? We've had references to core ships on multiple separatist warships from before, and those self-propelled core ships in Republic 71 look identical to regular core ships. How is anyone supposed to know which ship that looks like a core ship is a core ship and which is an original design? That's pure, unfounded conjecture on your part. I'm changing it again. VT-16 19:08, 11 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, who's to say it wasn't a modified core ship? Admiral J. Nebulax 19:10, 11 Jan 2006 (UTC)