User talk:SFH/Archive 1

SFH, --Imp 17:15, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Han Solo and Verpine
I note you said that Han Solo particularly dislikes insectoid aliens in the Verpine article. Could you source this? He doesn't show any particular animosity to the old priest in the Marvel comics, the caterpillar-like guy in Han Solo and the Lost Legacy, etc., etc. &mdash; Silly Dan  22:38, 15 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, according to The Joiner King, Leia noted Han disliked dealing with insectoid aliens ever since he encountered the Kamarians. Maybe dislike of all insectoids is a little strong, but I figured it may explain the Buggie comment. -- SFH 23:10, 15 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * OK. Adding that to the Behind the Scenes section.  &mdash; Silly Dan  23:50, 15 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Succession Boxes

 * Hey SFH, rather than discuss it across a variety of talk pages, I thought I would bring the discussion on succession boxes to your talk page. How do they benefit the article or readers, particularly when the links between characters are based on "de facto" assumptions or "eventually" explanations? Thanks. --SparqMan 16:16, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Okay, maybe I can't think of one that gives a good reason to keep them. The whole thing started when I wrote the article Galactic Emperor, and I put Thrawn on the list. At the time, I suppose it was a jab against the NJO, because I felt that the entire EU was being retconned into a prelude to the Yuuzhan Vong War. And lets just face it, Thrawn had some sort of political leadership position in the Empire between Isard's fall and Emperor Palpatine's return. After the Battle of Endor, the line between Political control and Military control blurred--and there wasn't much of a line between the two in the first place. And technically, Thrawn outranked the Moffs, so they had to give him control. And Isard never claimed the title of Empress, but no one doubted that she was in control. And just because Thrawn never claimed the title, he still had control of the Empire. I'm sorry if listing Thrawn as Galactic Emperor hits a nerve with you, but he had some sort of leadership position. -- SFH 19:22, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)


 * I can understand your frustration. What I am asking is, given the ambiguities of the situation (and technically, the line between political and military control was blurry earlier too), how does a less-than-accurate set of succession boxes aid the situation? Drawing a fuzzy line between Thrawn and Isard, or Thrawn and Luke Skywalker, doesn't aid in the process. If you think there is information in EU texts that supports your claim of Thrawn's political (or any other information you are trying to convey via succession boxes), why not include it in the proper articles? --SparqMan 01:40, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I guess it's just something for effect that was carried over from Wikipedia. If it means that much to you, you can remove them. I won't readd them, but I cannot guarantee that some one else might. I would like that his name remain on the list of Galactic Emperor's, since I feel that the page gives a better explanation. There's a New Essential Chronology coming out in October, which may better explain Thrawn's position of leadership, but you can remove the succession boxes for now if you like. -- SFH 19:52, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)


 * I think that will require a Wiki-wide discussion, but it's good to know that you don't hold them too dearly. On Wikipedia, succession boxes are more applicable because we have complete access to information, where in the GFFA, many details are unavailable. --SparqMan 20:33, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Xecr Nist's death
Hey SFH. What is your source for Xecr Nist's death in prison? ("he died in prison shortly afterwards."). Thanks. --SparqMan 06:15, 14 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * New Essential Guide to Characters, on Sedriss' page. -- SFH 14:00, 14 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Please be sure to add that to the sources, and since it is a specific location for that piece of information, you may want to note that in the Sources section. --SparqMan 21:59, 14 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * I think it's also mentioned in the Essential Chronology, though I may very well be mistaken. Demented Smiloid 22:27, 14 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * It isn't. -- SFH 22:32, 14 Oct 2005 (UTC)

New Republic Presidential election, 27 ABY
Nice work on New Republic Presidential election, 27 ABY. We need more articles that transition from CUSWE style biographical pieces to a more encompassing, encyclopedic style. Well done. --SparqMan 02:46, 17 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I had been meaning to write that eversince I picked up Destiny's Way. i just wish we had more details on the elections of Mothma, Leia, and Fey'lya. -- SFH 02:49, 17 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Supreme Commander Pellaeon
What are your sources that say Pellaeon is no longer the Supreme Commander of the Imperial Fleet? Has it been documented in a source that Pellaeon either resigned or was taken out of the post? If the evidence is simply the fact that he came to hold the post of the Galactic Alliance's supreme commander, then that is insufficient since it does not necessarily mean he can not be both.--SOCL 00:14, 19 Oct 2005 (UTC) You know, I had just written an explanation that I tried to leave it on Pellaeon's talk page, but the two of you left edits on it causing an edit conflict. That's okay, except that when I tried to leave an explanation here, I got another Edit conflict. Thats three times in a row, man, and the two of you are responsible. And why does everyone seem to doubt my sources? Is it because I said that Grand Admiral Thrawn wshould be counted as Galactic Emperor? Is it because I've called for the NJO to be dislogded as canon? Why do you hate poor SFH?...Sorry about that. I just get a little frustrated over three consecutive edit conflicts appearing. -- SFH 00:26, 19 Oct 2005 (UTC) It's all right. I just get a lot of questions about where I get my sources, and they're all legitimate. Also, I really think that those would be better suited for the talk pages of the article in question. And Don't worry SOLC. You didn't cause an edit conflict this time. -- SFH 00:31, 19 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * It's stated by either Leia or Cal Omas in The Unseen Queen. Kuralyov 00:15, 19 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * My apologies; I was unaware since I have yet to read it. I stand corrected.--SOCL 00:16, 19 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Hopefully this won't cause another edit conflict. No hate, man, I was merely ignorant.  I don't distrust you, I simply don't trust what I don't know; know what I mean?  Sorry about the problems, dude, I didn't mean any offense.--SOCL 00:28, 19 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Vor
You added an appearance in the Vor article -- do you know if the Cathedral of Winds got destroyed again during the Yuuzhan Vong invasion? Thanks, &mdash; Silly Dan  00:41, 23 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Vortex was attacked by the Yuuzhan Vong during the invasion, so it would be likely. As for placing it in the appearances section, Luke and Mara went to Vortex while searching for Dreash'cor, so it would be natural to assume they ran into some Vors. -- SFH 01:11, 23 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * In later years, after having to rebuild their cathedral seventeen times, the Vors reconsidered the wisdom of basing their culture around one incredibly fragile building... 8) Thanks. &mdash; Silly Dan  02:00, 23 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Apology

 * I would like to apologize, to you everyone one this wiki, for all the rabble rousing I caused on the talk pages regarding the New Essential Chronology. I'm a Lefty, so it's in my nature to complain about the powers that be. You all have better things to do then explain things to some panicky wookieepedian. And I admit that I may be overreacting to this. I'm simply a little testy about retcons, especially the ones that have come down since Del Rey took over (they gave Grand Admiral Thrawn's campaigns a noble motive). That being said, I shall pray to Yun-Shuno to absolve my sins, and cease all questions and comments about the NEC. -- SFH 23:12, 28 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * You don't need to apologise. I just think you are overreacting. Some of the retcons aren't actually retcons as such. QuentinGeorge 23:17, 28 Oct 2005 (UTC)