Talk:Adi Gallia/Legends

Coruscanti
Um...She's not really Coruscanti. She's a Corellian Human born on Coruscant. QuentinGeorge 12:21, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * She was born on Coruscant; therefore, it's her homeworld. The article makes note of her parentage anyways, so everything's good. Kuralyov 14:29, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * Luke wasn't born on Tatooine, neither was Anakin, Shmi or Owen Lars. Leia wasn't born on Alderaan. Yet these are listed as their "homeworlds". And for pity's sake, she doesn't need to be in a category named "Coruscanti". QuentinGeorge 20:57, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * Luke came to Tatooine when he was, what, one day old? And lived there for 19 years. Same with Leia for Alderaan. Adi's parents came from Corellia, yes, but she was born on Coruscant, she spent her childhood being raised in the Jedi Temple, she lived there for her whole life - she's Coruscanti.
 * ALL Jedi lived in the temple pretty much their entire lives. You'd better change Mace Windu's homeworld then, and Obi-Wan's, and Dooku, and Eeth Koth and Oppo Rancisis and Qui-Gon, and pretty much every other member of the order. QuentinGeorge 05:45, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * But none of them were also born on Coruscant, like Adi was.Kuralyov 05:47, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * Don't be too sure about that. The "homeworld" is meant to be listing what planet the character considers their homeworld not the narrow sense of where they were born. QuentinGeorge 05:56, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * Here's another example: I was born in Connecticut. I have lived in Connecticut my whole life. My parents are from Pennsylvania. They moved to Connecticut before I was born. Would you consider me a Pennsylvanian?Kuralyov 22:12, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * Here's a better (and more appropriate) example. Your parents are American diplomats, and you are born while they are posted in Kuwait. Are you a Kuwaiti? QuentinGeorge 05:49, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * I fail to see how it's more appropriate. The answer would be yes, unless you were born in the American embassy, a practice we have no idea is applicable here. Additionally, Corellia and Coruscant are part of the same state; the US and Kuwait aren't. We don't know if Adi even has ever been to Corellia. Kuralyov 13:45, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * My point is that as long as the Offical site does not change her Homeworld from Coruscant to Corellia, we must consider her homeworld Coruscant. www.starwars.com is the most canon of all the sites, so we must believe what they write. - TopAce
 * Starwars.com is a collection of canon information, but not canon itself. If the movies contradict what is listed on the official site (as they did in the case of the length of the Executor) then we must go by the information provided in the movies, which are G-level canon.--Eion 18:49, 9 Nov 2005 (UTC)

races and species
does any one have The New Essential Guide to Characters because i was looking through it a while ago, and i swear that Adi Gallia and Stass Allie were listed as near humans (i think there species name started with a "c") and if there are humans what is that thing on their head?--Davin Rayce 20:31, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * You are thinking of Depa Billaba. QuentinGeorge 20:45, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Or, you're misremembering "Corellians with silly hats" as non-human. 8) Gallia and Alliee wore "Tholoth headdresses" with "organic tentacles", according to the Databank.  &mdash; Silly Dan  21:13, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * nevermind then--Davin Rayce 01:59, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, it does say in the NEGTC that Adi Galla is near-human. It also said Barriss Offee was a human and mentioned nothing about her being Luminara's apprentice, so I guess you can't believe everything you read. :) StarNeptune 04:43, 7 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Mistake
In the star wars episode 3 trivia book it states: wich Jedi Dies on Salcumi or something like that, and the awnser is Adi Gallia!--wattamb2000
 * The book is incorrect - as it is Stass Allie which dies on Saleucami. QuentinGeorge 07:06, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Saber Colors
I notice in TPM, 3 Jedi had Dark Red Sabers, but in AOTC, the color are limited to Purple, Blue and Green. When Maul revealed the Sith were alive, did that make the Jedi limited the colors to avoid confusion between Jedi and Sith?
 * I don't recall any jedi having red sabers in Episode I. -LtNOWIS 04:27, 7 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Acording to Hasbro, the three Jedi with Dark Red Lightsabers (TPM) were Adi Gallia, Depa Billaba and Even Piell. Double D 20:03, 7 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if hasbro can be seen as a authenic source... But the Adi Gallia page on the offical Jedi Power Battles website (see here), in the "Characters" section, states that her lightsaber color is Crimson (Red), and has a picture of her with a red lightsaber... I'm not sure if Jedi Power Battles can be seen as canon or not... But it is interesting that it says Adi Gallia had a red lightsaber... 141.154.179.65 04:24, 8 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * I thought all games and books were part of canon, therefore, that would mean that Adi's lightsaber was canonically red. Also, the Mace Windu article says: "In Jedi Power Battles, Mace's saber is blue, and the Mace Windu Episode I Action Figure has a blue saber. Therefore, in Episode I Mace had a blue lightsaber". That same thing could be said about Adi Gallia.. She had a red lightsaber in Jedi Power Battles, and her Episode I action figure had a red lightsaber, therefore she had a red lightsaber. 141.154.159.11 20:40, 8 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * To make things even more confusing, on the cover of Jedi Apprentice: The Dangerous Rescue (which takes place in 42 BBY) Adi has an orange lightsaber. Again in Cloak of Deception (33 BBY), she is mentioned to have a blue one. If they continue to be this inconsistent with Adi's lighsabers, she'll soon have them in all the colors of the rainbow :) --Tinwe 18:38, 9 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Is it possible Adi had more than one saber at a time, maybe she used different sabers at different times. Double D 20:09, 10 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Maybe she only had one saber, but changed the crystals in it to change the color. I remember in the KOTOR games, all you had to do to change your lightsaber color is change the lightsaber crystals you have in it. I just added mention of Adi's lightsaber colors in her Behind the Scenes section.141.154.178.39 22:49, 10 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * She also has a red blade in Emissaries to Malastare, set after Episode I, and in other comics, I believe. We never actually see her lightsabre blade in the movies, though (she appears only in Council scenes in TPM and AotC, and is replaced by Stass Allie for the arena fight and RotS) - Kwenn
 * Just so I don't get confused, From some sources, It said her saber was "Dark Red". When you guys say "red", do you mean normal red or dark red? Double D 21:40, 11 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Well anyway, my first question was why Adi changed from Dark Red to Blue, after Darth Maul revealed the Sith, did the Jedi become prejudice, ("do they judge people by the color of their lightsaber")? Double D 19:17, 11 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * She actually also has a blue lightsaber in Cloak of Deception. My assumption would be that Adi Gallia had two lightsabers, and by the time it gets to AotC, she had lost the red one. KastMorben 10:46, 7 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * In Jedi Starfighter, during one of the video clips, it shows her with a blue lightsaber fighting in the backhand style.
 * C'mon, guys, does it really matter? If there's one thing the prequels showed us, it was how disposable lightsabers really are. In every Episode of the prequel trilogy, a Jedi character either loses their 'saber (sometimes multiple times), has it confiscated, or has it destroyed. Their solution? Build/acquire a new one. Heck, even Luke loses his weapon in The Empire Strikes Back. Cutch 18:37, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Fighting style
Is there anymore information about her backhand fighting style beyond that it is what she used? I agree. I read in a star wars anuual book that she used a reverse grip of shien. User:The prof
 * Not other than the reason it was used was to counter-act weight difficulties. 83.71.47.135 23:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Also it seemed to reflect her extremely fast and agile nature, at least in Power Battles. Almost certainly a variant of Form IV. CaptainMorgan 02:05, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * As far as I know, it's not a variant of Form IV. I don't really think her style (Shien) isn't a variant of anything. It's a seperate and rare style. 96.240.194.128 04:21, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually it would seem that her style is indeed a variant of Form V, as her style doesn't correspond with the classical definition (take a look at Anakin's Opening Stance). Perhaps she uses elements of both Form IV and Form V, since she is seen using the backhand grip but strikes very fast and uses aerial assaults often.  CaptainMorgan 23:46, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Adi Gallia's canonical saber form is not given AFAIK. Please do not use Wookieepedia as a place for fan speculation; it is not condoned. Atarumaster88  Jedi_Order.svg ( Talk page ) 23:47, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well this article and the Shien artcle both say that Shien was her style, so I'm guessing there must be some canon source that says Shien was her style.72.79.214.141 00:37, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Quote
Any suggestions for the article's opening quote? I added the current one, but don't really like it. Although it shows Gallia's attitude, it doesn't really deal with her. Cutch 20:24, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey, I just found this one: "Better a few faithful supporters than a wealth of false friends." Whaddaya think?
 * Good, let's keep that - TopAce 10:19, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
 * how about a quote from Jedi Starfighter: "Shooting star to old folks home." what do you think? User:Quinlanfan 23:44, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe as part of one of the subheadings, sure. Cutch 05:43, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Leia and Luke
I also know that Leia Organa Solo In training with Luke Skywalker has two lightsabers one of them blue but in the book The New Rebelion, Luke gives her another lightsaber that had a red blade. Leia surprised luke during there spar when she disarmed him. Luke was then proud of her fighting techniques Whoop de doo. has nothing to do with Adi Gallia.69.61.179.241 14:22, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Hair/baldness
Since Adi's actress was bald is Adi technically bald then? Because in the article it doesn't say she has a hair color or that she is bald. JediNTT307 20:07, 17 June 2008 (UTC) Okay?? JediNTT307 20:56, 18 September 2008 (UTC) Okay, I know it would be wrong to speculate that, but I was just thinking. thanks. JediNTT307 01:12, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Since her helmet was never removed and her hair was never specifically mentioned (as far as I know), we can't say for sure. Saying Adi was bald because her actor was bald would be wrong (many actors are known to wear wigs and costumes; nobody really looks like this) and pure speculation. // ~mikah~  01:09, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Height?
The article lists her as 1.84 meters, yet in the Clone Wars episode "Grievous Intrigue" she appears to be notably shorter than Anakin, around 1.7 meters.


 * The databank lists her at 1.84, officially, so that's her canonical height. Unless future information is released that retcons that, it is still her canonical height no matter how she appears in the show.  We can't really judge her height based on looks alone...your eyes can deceive you, don't trust them. -Zekk_Skywalk 23:39, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Stass Allie's Master?
Is there any source for that? I checked the databank on starwars.com and it doesn't mention it.68.40.151.199 17:18, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Death
We cannot speculate about her death. Unless it specifically said that she died, it is speculation. Sure, we saw, form the back, two lightsabers appear to impale her. Perhaps she used Force Absorb. Or maybe she's half-whiphid and went into a whiphid healing trance. Sure, it's completely absurd, but it is also completely possible. Same goes for every other un-clarified "death" speculated about on this wiki, including the likes of Stass Allie, Plo Koon, Yaddle, Tsui Choi, and the rest.69.61.179.241 14:24, December 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Feel free to change the content once LFL has her survival established as canon. Until then, common sense prevails. Graestan ( Talk ) 14:29, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

New death
Apparently I can't just continue the above discussion and have to start a new section to talk abut her new death. Lucasfilm premiered the first episode of season 5 of The Clone Wars at Celebration 6. We see Savage Opress kill Adi and later Oni-wan tells Hondo that she is dead. The episode has been shown publicly at this point. Of course this causes a conflict with the previous canon. Please note that I am asking how this should best be handled in the article.........that is discussing the article, not just discussing the topic. Also, since I'm ASKING a question about improving the article, don't just template me with a notification about "fanon" or giving me a warning about something I haven't done. (ie change the article) Niteshift36 (talk) 02:16, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Put it in as under a spoiler warning or content approaching. And I agree. Talk comments should never have been deleted. Jartka&#39;irn (talk) 02:23, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your response. Given the amount of resistance I faced just trying to ask that question and the reverts without meaningful explaination, I think I'll skip adding it to the article. Niteshift36 (talk) 02:29, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * No prob. If you feel that your original comment should not have been removed from the talk page you can report it Forum:Administrators%27 noticeboard Jartka&#39;irn (talk) 02:36, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * No need for that. Too bad though. The people I spoke to at the Wookieepedia table here at CVI encouraged me to contribute more and not just be a reader. This has made me reconsider that. Niteshift36 (talk) 02:58, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * If you bothered to look at the revision I reverted, you would noticed that it contained 96,000 bytes of data that was html coding and junk data. That was the reason it was reverted. - Cavalier One FarStar.svg( Squadron channel ) 02:39, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * I did. I was talking about JangFett's unjustified revision/deletion of a perfectly fine talk page comment. Jartka&#39;irn (talk) 02:55, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * I did "bother", and was in the process of correcting that weird error when I got the edit conflict. It took time to move from the iPad to the laptop. Nowhere did I say this was only your fault. However, the original revert and one of the others had nothing to do with that error, so please, let's not pretend like it only happened once and was based solely on my format error.Niteshift36 (talk) 03:09, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm pretending nothing. I'm explaining my revert, which was solely to correct a format error. - Cavalier One FarStar.svg( Squadron channel ) 03:18, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * I never said yours was the main issue anyway, so I don't know what you are defending or why the whole "if you bothered...." stuff exists. Niteshift36 (talk) 03:30, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Defending? No. Explaining? Yes. Since there appeared to be some question as to why a revert occurred, I felt it necessary to explain. As for "bothering"; possibly a bad turn of phrase there, but it appeared that you were equating my revert to the previous ones without actually checking the error in question (which I know see that you knew about). - Cavalier One FarStar.svg( Squadron channel ) 04:00, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * The series are overpowering way much those 2 Dathomirians. It's ruining it all. Also, watch the spoilers. Winterz (talk) 02:49, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Wow, that sound like the "discussing the issue" that the original reverter was so worried about. Is it still a spoiler? The episode has premiered. I see updates on here minutes after an episode airs. Why aren't those spoilers? Niteshift36 (talk) 02:58, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * They are. They're always preceded by Spoiler or Majorspoiler. Information from the episode is considered spoilers until one month after the episode airs. Menkooroo (talk) 03:03, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * My apologies. I never noticed them before. Niteshift36 (talk) 03:06, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, I would note that I believe policy is to go from the standard US airdate. While the episode has been seen at CVI, there are a lot more people who haven't seen it than those that have. Caution is heavily advised. - Cavalier One FarStar.svg( Squadron channel ) 03:18, August 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * This is a general note: If you're going to comment here, please adhere to the Talkheader template. We are not a forum. Thank you,  JangFett  (Talk) 02:50, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * When I look at the policy you keep referring to, I see "However, these discussions should stay focused on issues relevant to Wookieepedia, such as "When was this character born?", "Where did this image come from?", and the like. General Star Wars questions such as "Who was the most powerful Dark Lord of the Sith?" or "Which movie did you like better, Empire or Jedi?" are best left for a forum such as the Jedi Council Forums, or the Official site message boards." Now, I asked about a Lucasfilm production (ie canon) showing a death that conflicts with the previous canon. Since the previous discussion talked about a "you didn't hear them say dead" kind of thing, I was specific about who said what. Please tell me what in that is NOT "discussion relevant to Wookieepedia"? It's not like I'm here chatting about "dude, it sucks that she got killed" or some nonsense like that. Niteshift36 (talk) 03:06, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * You are currently discussing about Adi's retcon death. Please keep the focus on that and any future changes to the article, not general discussion about her death and TCW in general. Thanks,  JangFett  (Talk) 03:10, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * I know what I'm discussing. Do you? Why are you warning me about "don't discuss TCW" in general? Where have I done so? Why are you warning me about a general discussion of her death? Where I had had such a discussion? A different editor has, but you keep giving me warnings about things I'm not doing. Niteshift36 (talk) 03:14, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Niteshift36, you may have not, but Winterz did. JangFett applied the reminder to stop it devolving into a discussion. - Cavalier One FarStar.svg( Squadron channel ) 03:18, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * There is no "may" to it. And as experienced as he is, I'm sure he is capable of placing that warning after the post that did it, rather than a post that didn't. Niteshift36 (talk) 03:30, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * At the time JangFett edited it was placed below the relevant comment. Further revisions have, however, changed the running order of the conversation. - Cavalier One FarStar.svg( Squadron channel ) 04:00, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry. What I wrote was more of a relief comment, never did I intended to start a discussion on that matter. It was more like a relief comment + the spoilers warning as I'm somewhat displeased by this major spoilers. I know you already said it, but this is like the spoilers of spoilers. Content that will only be officially released in a month. Winterz (talk) 03:25, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * I already apologized. I will, however, say that it has been "officially" released. There was nothing unofficial about it. Dave Filoni was sitting there with half the cast. It was attended by the media and billed as the "world premiere". I see nothing unofficial about that. Niteshift36 (talk) 03:33, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Niteshift36, the official release for that TCW episode in the US is within a month. Per our spoiler policy, it has not taken place yet. The CVI release was restricted to only guests when it was released.  JangFett  (Talk) 03:37, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll correct your error for you. It won't be released "within a month." It will be on Cartoon Network on 9/29/12. As this is only 8/25/12, that is "over a month", not within a month. Niteshift36 (talk) 03:45, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Good for it. Until then, please avoid major spoilers here.  JangFett  (Talk) 03:46, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've acknowledged the mistake (something I can do), apologized for it and haven't done it a second time. What else do I need to do to make you stop warning me not to do it? Niteshift36 (talk) 03:53, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * As long as the previously established death is acknowledged in the article as no longer being canon (not removed), I see no problem with adding info revealed at CVI.Jartka&#39;irn (talk) 03:11, August 26, 2012 (UTC) CVI.Jartka&#39;irn (talk) 03:11, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sure one of the other couple thousand people in that room edits Wookieepedia. They can add it because I've grown tired of one editor posting warning after warning about things that I'm not even doing. Niteshift36 (talk) 03:30, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * We are not allowed to dictate what is canon or not. It is a contradiction and any inconsistencies should be mentioned in the bts. In this talk page, you can discuss about changes to the article, which does include stuff that occurred in the episode. Although keep in mind of what Menk said above, as well as my Talkheader warning. I strongly agree with what Cav said as well.  JangFett  (Talk) 03:16, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's all well and good JangFett but please don't remove user's talk comments in the future. As seen here. Jartka&#39;irn (talk) 03:27, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * If a comment does not adhere to Talkheader, it will be removed without question, Jartka&#39;irn.  JangFett  (Talk) 03:29, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * And now, here comes the administrator hat. I've refrained from handing out any warnings here since I believe that this is simply a case of miscommunication that can be resolved amicably. Please, do not do anything to make me change that decision as I can see that this has the potential to turn into something nasty, and the tone of some comments are getting pretty snarky. So, I will say this: stop discussing the reversions and concentrate on the actual article. If you want to take it up on the admin noticeboard or with an administrator personally, please feel free. But as of now, Adi's page is not the place to do it. Discuss the article and the necessary changes needed. - Cavalier One FarStar.svg( Squadron channel ) 04:00, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * You won't have to worry. I came here, thinking I could discuss improving the article and found myself set upon in an adversarial manner by a user with an affection for a specific policy. Even if I admit a mistake and apologize for it, I still get warned over something that should be past (by a non-admin no less).This has been unpleasant enough to make me rethink the whole contributing idea. No thanks. I was looking for an enjoyable way to indulge my love of the Star Wars universe, but that was taken care of. Niteshift36 (talk) 04:09, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry you feel that way, although I should point out that you have technically not been warned at all. Reminders and linking to policy are not warnings, and no warnings have been applied to your talk page. - Cavalier One FarStar.svg( Squadron channel ) 04:23, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * and "technically", it doesn't really matter since that's pure semantics. When you have an experienced user, removing posts and linking to policies that he claims are being violated (a policy that isn't being consistently enforced on this page and other don't even feel was violated), it is a warning. The poster even calls it a warning himself. Trying to split that hair really doesn't change much. I wonder how many other new editors are driven off by similar tactics? Niteshift36 (talk) 16:25, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Niteshift, unless you have the intention of returning this discussion to Adi Gallia, the subject of this talk page, this discussion needs to stop. There is no productive or beneficial purpose to continuing to make snide and disrespectful remarks as you are now&mdash;and even if your comments weren't intended as such, that's how they're being taken. If the disagreement is still bothering you, then you need to take some time away from the site until you calm down. I'm not insinuating a block or any other administrative action by saying that, but you need to calm down and move on. Cavalier One has already pointed you to the administrators' noticeboard, so there should be no reason for continuing this discussion on this talk page unless it's relevant to Gallia.  CC7567  (talk) 20:05, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * CC7567, you are providing a good example of what keeps new editors away. You "warn" me about my"disrespectful" comments, yet ignore the way I was treated to elicit those comments, such as repeated robot warnings about things already past). This was not a one sided disagreement, but all the finger-wagging seems to be one-sided. Couple that with the fact that off-topic comments exist on this page and longer-term users are seemingly allowed to post them without having them removed, and it gives the appearence that there is a less than welcoming atmosphere. I can also tell you that telling me (twice) to "calm down" comes off as condescending. Niteshift36 (talk) 11:28, August 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * The argument was not one-sided, but you are the one continuing it, in the wrong place. If you have a problem with your treatment, please take it up in the admin noticeboard instead of using Adi Gallia's talk page. You are not being told to take this elsewhere because you were the only one involved in the argument, but because you are perpetuating this discussion on a talk page that should be used for discussing the article. The correct venue&mdash;the administrators' noticeboard&mdash;has been linked above, so please use it instead of clogging up this talk page. Thanks. 1358  (Talk)  11:41, August 28, 2012 (UTC)

mountains, mole-hills, nothing we can do about it but wait. . . ultimately it will probably be her boz pity death that is retconned for her to have survived. . . this kind of stuff happens more than anyone cares to admit. It will all be ironed out eventually though, I am sure of that. It would be more productive to discuss these things on a forum that official star wars people have access to. That is the best that can be done, and when you make your presence known about these things refrain from whining unendingly, and just discuss solutions. Just dont do it here. ralok (talk) 06:33, August 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * I do kinda want to add my two cents on how it should be handled when it comes to it (I wont be here when it does, i try to stay out of the way during canon storms), on the section concerning her death the heading should be changed to "two deaths?" and refer to her has having seemingly died on both occasions, rather than having definitively died. OR simply place whichever death she was most likely to survive before the other, and say taht she seemingly died then. The word "seemingly" will undoubtedly be important. ralok (talk) 02:32, August 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * No, the TCW death is definite, as a T-canon source overriding the C-canon source. She did not die in the comic book's events. However, the timeline of the comic happening before the episode has not been established yet. It's possible that they will just say that she somehow survived that or declare that part of the comic non-canon. WE just don't know at this time. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 02:48, August 30, 2012 (UTC)