Talk:World Devastator

Did anyone else notice the World Devastator over Da Soocha V in Dark Empire II? -- SFH 00:57, 2 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes. I at first thought the fleet was over Mon Calamari. It seemed to be devouring a ship. If it was Da Soocha V, then that ship must have escaped destruction. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 20:27, 2 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Nice example of the Rebels utilizing all available resources, that they even captured WDs. VT-16 21:31, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I wonder what they ended up doing with it, I mean the one in Dark Empire II is clearly repairing itself by eating up the hulks of other ships so it's not like it was unusable. I mean the World Devastators seem like a perfect weapon to use against Vong-formed planets.  Maybe they later hid the thing like they did with the Lusankya and in some future story it will show up again.  Here's hoping. 14:43, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Good point. Perhaps the New Republic could just have been feeding it some ships to make new starfighters. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:01, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Exaggerating?
Does anyone else think Ackbar is.. exaggerating a bit in that quote? A Death Star was simply massive, and could destroy an entire planet in one shot. That's somehow less powerful than a World Devastator? I think not! -Danik Kreldin 21:15, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * While he may have been exaggerating, it is a quote about the World Devastators that should remain. Admiral J. Nebulax 21:26, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * The Devastators could destroy a planet over a period of months, and use the resources to upgrade themselves or make even more weapons of destruction. Thus, they're deadlier from a certain point of view.-LtNOWIS 21:29, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * With the Death Stars and their design siblings, you only get destruction. The World Devastators provide this as well as utilize what they destroy at the same time. More efficient that way. VT-16 21:32, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * That's what made them so dangerous. They were self-sustaining seige machines. Also, wouldn't you exaggerate if your home planet was sigled out for destruction? -- SFH 21:38, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I know I sure would. Admiral J. Nebulax 00:54, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

They are far more effecient than the Death star, and more versitile. They can actually turn a planet into an army. Also, they don't have to completly comsume the planet, so they can overrun it and conquer it. While the death star is also capable of doing this, the death star would not increase it's power with each new planet is destroys. The world devastators can create more world devastators,so the power of the devastator fleet would grow each time they consume a planet.
 * Yes, they might be more effecient than the Death Stars, but that's a point-of-view. But you are correct on how the World Devastators benefit from wreaking havoc upon a planet. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 00:14, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Do World Devastators have any ability to defeat a planetary shield? As this was the reason they built the Death Star. Darth Tanner

Mon Calamari or Dac?

 * Shouldn't all references to Mon Calamari be called Dac, due to its "renaming"? Doran 06:28, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Dac was also called Mon Calamari. It's fine. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 20:39, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Droids
Shouldn't the World Devestators be considered droids? They have droid brains, not human commanders, that control their operations. Red XIV 08:28, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * No, because Humans command World Devastators. It shows that pretty clearly in Dark Empire. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:04, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Lando Calrissian commanded an X-1 Viper from within a "cockpit" area...but it was still a droid. EVS Construction Droids also have biological crews. The fact that some large droids have provisions for biological crews who can override their actions doesn't make them just manned vehicles; they're still droids. Likewise, World Devastators are, as stated in this article, run by droid brains. Red XIV 03:18, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * As far as I can tell, only their factories are. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:14, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * According to the DE Sourcebook, they're droids. I quote, "The World Devastators are enormous droids". - Lord Hydronium 11:45, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, and no. The World Devastators are commanded by living beings. Operations of World Devastators are commanded by a droid brain, yes, but if it were truly a droid, would it need a crew to supervise everything? No. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:30, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Refer back to my X-1 Viper and EVS Construction Droid examples. They both have human crews. Red XIV 23:04, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The X-1 Viper was a droid. It was not made to be controlled by beings, but the Alliance did anyway. That's not a good example. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:05, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Quoting from The Essential Guide to Droids entry on the X-1 Viper: "the droids were designed for supervised combat–and thus had manual override controls in their heads". It was in fact designed to have humans the head "cockpit", as opposed to the Rebels merely finding some empty space in the droids and using it to carry troops. We have examples to establish that a droid can have a living crew inside. Thus, the fact that the Devastators have humans onboard doesn't disqualify them as droids. Especially since a canon source, the Dark Empire Sourcebook, explicitly identifies them as such. Red XIV 04:10, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Still, it seems awefully wierd for this large superweapon, if it is indeed a droid, to require a Human crew. If a droid brain can operate the large factories onboard, why can't it fly itself? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 12:55, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
 * From the DESB: "The World Devastators are enormous droids; the crew, technicians and slaves live in special compartments inside.  They perform the programming and feed information to the central brains, but once this is done, the Devastators operate freely within their designated parameters."  So, apparently, the crew didn't have a very big role in the Devastators' operation. jSarek 23:19, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Size?
I know they vary, but what's the average? Aren't they all bigger than, 500 meters? 1000 meters? 2 km? I don't think they vary that much. &mdash; Aiddat (Holonet) (Contribs Log) 17:33, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd say maybe a bit smaller than an Imperial-class Star Destroyer. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 21:04, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The largest one, the Silencer-7, was 3,200 meters long and 1,500 meters tall, far larger than an ImpStar. -LtNOWIS 21:27, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * True, but Silencer-7 was the command World Devastator, which would probably have been the biggest. We'll need the standard size, if any. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 21:34, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd say there isn't any. They more than just varied in size, they actually *changed* in size, as they build more components for themselves as they went.  Their inventor didn't even know if they had an upper growth limit. The Inquisitor-4, at 1,700 meters long at 900 meters tall, was said to be typical of Devastators just old enough to enter combat, but they spent at least a few weeks before that growing themselves under controlled conditions. jSarek 23:16, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Good point. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:44, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * So they do vary a lot. From like Corvette size to SSD size. Wow, I thought they only had small size differences. &mdash; Aiddat (Holonet) (Contribs Log) [[Image:NewRepublic.png|20px]] 16:09, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Same here. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 16:12, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

go boom
you may not notice but in the movie one world devostator has a little explosion!
 * And the point of that was... ? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:47, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Do not post this twice. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 20:49, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 * And certainly do not post nonsense. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:51, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism?
The momma devastator listed in the "behind the scenes" section sounds dubious. Was this really going to be included, or is it vandalism? Serendipitousus 06:36, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The user who added it certainly isn't a vandal. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 12:07, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Probably just a nickname.-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 12:47, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * That's what I was thinking. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 21:27, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Darksaber
About this statement ''At least two World Devastators were used in the construction of the Hutt superweapon Darksaber, but they devoured each other. Afterwards, it is unclear whether or not more were employed.''. The craft used in the building Darksaber were called Mineral Exploiter. There were four MEs built for Darksaber. I didn't think there was any connection. What's the deal? -Fnlayson 00:12, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I checked the history and found that the statement was added by an Anon. I have not read this anywhere, so I suspect it's fanon.-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 00:27, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I doubt there would be 4 WDs to make the Mineral Exploiters.  Anybody know anything more on this?  -Fnlayson 00:40, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I have yet to purchase Darksaber, so I wasn't sure when the anon added it. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:53, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

How?
How could the Davastators be worse if they can only make enough weapons for planetary defense while the Death Star only needs it's Super Laser to destroy a planet?--Herbsewell 23:52, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Because the World Devastators can strip worlds of their resources and then use their onboard factories to create other weapons. In the end, the World Devastators were not only more dangerous but better than Death Stars because of this ability. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 01:39, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Well yes but they can only make enough to destroy the world itself, or protect it from planetary bombardment.--Herbsewell 02:15, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * So? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 02:17, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * As in a Death Star can blow up any ship on the planet it is protecting. The World Devastator can't bring it's destructive forces with them like the Death Star can.  Any planet protected with a shield and laser batteries can withstand Devastators but not a Death Star.--Herbsewell 02:19, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * That may be true, but for the planets World Devastators could attack, the effects were lethal. In the end, the Death Star was able to get the job done faster, but the World Devastators could produce more benefits from it. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 02:23, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * No...the benefits only went as far as taking over the planet.--Herbsewell 02:25, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Not true. The benefits were more weapons. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 02:26, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, weapons that could only defend a planet from invasion.--Herbsewell 02:27, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * World Devastators are worse. I'm trying to figure out what Herbsewell is saying. Who's defending what planet from invasion?-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 03:19, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The weapons a WD makes could be used for whatever. -Fnlayson 04:15, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't think the Empire was interested in protecting the planet, anyway.-- Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 04:17, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Well I mean what would you do with the weapons?--Herbsewell 14:38, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Anything. That's what we're trying to say. The weapons don't have to be used only in an invasion of a planet. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 15:09, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Well you can't bring the weapons with you off world.--Herbsewell 15:11, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you can. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 15:12, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * With what?--Herbsewell 15:13, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The World Devastators, or other transports, would bring them off. That's common sense. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 15:15, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * That's resources you need from other planets. The World Devastators would not be able to produce as efficiently as mines would.  And for worlds that the World Devastators can attack can always fight back or call for reinforcements.  Worlds that would be the most costly to the enemy would have shields and a fleet.  While the Devastators can not attack these planets, the Death Star can.  Destroying assets of the enemy can often be more costly than improving your own.--Herbsewell 15:22, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Herbsewell, you seem to have no clue what we're talking about. The World Devastators have onboard factories that produce vehicles and weapons. After construction, then can be transported to anywhere in the Galaxy. Plus, the World Devastators could just stay at a certain planet and gather more resources to create more weapons of war. And if there were planets protected by shields, they could simply call in a fleet to bombard the shields until they weren't fuctioning. And the Imperial fleet would also attack the fleet protecting the planet. The World Devastator's main purpose wasn't to attack fleets or assault planetary shields. They had warships to do that. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 15:32, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm just saying that the Death Star was a more valuable tool in war. And Jack there is a limit to what they can carry with them.  Those weapons of war can only be created if the planet has the proper materials.--Herbsewell 15:35, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * While the planet's amount of resources can be a problem, that's besides the point. The World Devastator could produce a more positive Imperial effect for the devastation of a world than the Death Star could for the destruction of a world. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 15:38, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * How bout if it was the capital world of the enemy? It would be armed to the teeth with ships, so Devastators (unless they had a fleet with them), would not be able to attack.  Even if they did have a fleet it would only ships that the Navy would support.  Destroying a world valuable to the enemy is helps the common good better than making weapons out of materials that the planet gives.--Herbsewell 15:42, 31 December 2006 (UTC)