Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Unidentified Jedi (Sacking of Coruscant)


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Unidentified Jedi (Sacking of Coruscant)

 * Nominated by: Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 20:11, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Read one...

(3 ACs/6 Users/9 Total)
Support
 * 1) Addressed via IRC. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jujiggum ) 23:30, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Cool trailer. This article will probably require some updating over the next few months. We might even discover his name. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 09:53, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 3)  CC7567  (talk) 23:02, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) Awesome job fleshing out a great article with a very limited amount of information. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 23:21, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) Good job. Yes, hopefully, we'll find out his name.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 14:47, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) Everything stated above.  The Flash  {talk} 17:21, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) He looks a bit like Arnold Shwarzenegger...&mdash;Darthtyler (Talk) 19:19, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 8)  Grunny  ( Talk ) 14:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 9)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  15:17, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) The Grand Master reads one...
 * 2) * Intro and Bio: Multiple times you refer to this Jedi's "colleagues" or "allies". I think you need to specify that these companions were Jedi, too, or else it could be mistaken that the Sith were attacking just this one Jedi. (It gets confusing since "Jedi" can be plural or singular)
 * 3) * The last sentence of the P&a seems to be a little redundant/out of place. I'd remove it, or reword it to be less specific: maybe just say that the Sith managed to get past his defences.
 * 4) * In the P&t you use "even as" twice in the same sentence. Please change one of them.
 * 5) *Good work. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jujiggum ) 23:12, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) Soresu
 * 7) * Do we know that the Jedi was aware that the intruder was a Sith? The article would seem to imply it.
 * 8) **It would appear so, given that this Jedi gathered a group of other Jedi to confront him. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 12:10, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) * Blade gets repetitive in the section describing the duel.
 * 10) **Should be better now. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 12:10, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) * drove it into the floor where the Jedi had been only a moment earlier. The Jedi evaded the strike Only a moment earlier would mean that the event had already occurred. Evaded the strike describes an event in motion, so this is out of chronology. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 01:12, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 12) **Reworded slightly. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 12:10, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 13) JMAS
 * 14) * Image-wise, the article is very boring. The two images look virtually identical - the Sith and the Jedi facing each other. You would have no idea he is being stabbed in the second image if you hadn't seen the trailer, or been told so by the caption. Since the image is in the P&T/P&A sections, it seems to me that having an image demonstrating one of his powers and abilities would be better and add more diversity, image-wise, to the article. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 05:56, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 15) **Frankly, that image wouldn't add to the article, because the quality of that image isn't that good - unless it's just me, but the Jedi's face looks blurry. If you could upload a better version, I'll consider it. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 12:10, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 16) ***I disagree about the quality of the alternately proposed image. I still think the virtually duplicate is rather visually boring, even having the picture of his fallen lightsaber would be better, but I won't let that hold back the nom. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 02:39, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 17) ****I've changed it to the image you suggested. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 17:51, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 18) * Sorry to take back my vote, but I'm certain it will be very temporary. "As he lay dying, the Sith told him how the Jedi Order had been deceived, and that the Republic would fall as a result." Do we have some official confirmation whose voice is providing the narration? It could be the Sith Emperor for we know, but there really is no evidence that the Sith told him that. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 22:12, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 19) **Based on this Sith's expression during the time the line is said, it appears that this Sith is speaking the line - although his mouth is obscured, his cheeks do move in accordance with the line. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 23:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 20) *** *chuckle* OK, I still that might be straining conjectural boundaries. But watching it, I guess I can see how you'd come to that conclusion. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 23:21, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 21) Jinzler
 * 22) * The trailer appears to be quite significant, so could you create an article for it and then link to that, rather than its url. This objection applies to the unidentified sith as well --Jinzler
 * 23) **Seeing as articles for trailers have never been created (to my knowledge, at least), I'm inclined to disagree. As far as I can tell, there's nothing wrong with using the url. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 13:25, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 24) ***I was just thinking that it would be slightly different in this case. With a trailer for a film, the trailer shows content from the film. However, this trailer seems more of a prequel to The Old Republic, so shows content that doesn't appear in the game and possibly won't do anywhere else. We create articles for Wizards.com articles, rather than just linking to the url and we have articles for two other SWTOR.com videos, so why should we not have one for this one? --Jinzler 13:36, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 25) ****On the advice of Darth Culator, I created a subsection in the BTS of the TOR article because, even as he said, an article isn't necessarily justified in this case. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 13:55, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 26) Just one: can "make a move" be reworded to something clearer?  CC7567  (talk) 22:03, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 27) *Done. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 23:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

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