Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations

 The featured articles of the wiki are articles that represent the best Wookieepedia has to offer. This is not a way to showcase the articles of your favorite characters, spaceships, or the like.


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So just what makes a featured article? Well, we've prepared a list just in case someone should ask that, and it is as follows.

An article must&hellip;


 * 1) &hellip;be well-written and detailed.
 * 2) &hellip;be unbiased, non-point of view.
 * 3) &hellip;be sourced with all available sources and appearances.
 * 4) &hellip;follow the Manual of Style, Layout Guide, and all other policies on Wookieepedia.
 * 5) &hellip;not be the object of any ongoing edit wars.
 * 6) &hellip;not be tagged with any sort of improvement tags (i.e. more sources, expand, etc).
 * 7) &hellip;have a proper lead that gives a good summary of the topic and can be used for the front page featured box.
 * 8) &hellip;have no more than 3 redlinks.
 * 9) &hellip;have significant information from all sources and appearances, especially a biography for character articles.
 * 10) &hellip;not have been previously featured on the Main Page. Otherwise, it can only be restored to featured status.
 * 11) &hellip;be completely referenced for all available material and sources. See Sourcing for more information.
 * 12) &hellip;have all quotes and images sourced.
 * 13) &hellip;provide at least one quote on the article; a leading quote at the beginning is required. Only one quote would be allowed at the beginning of each section at max, although quotes may be placed in the middle of the article.
 * 14) &hellip;include a "personality and traits" section on all character articles.
 * 15) &hellip;include a "powers and abilities" section on all relevant character articles, especially for Force-sensitive characters where said powers and/or abilities are stipulated.
 * 16) &hellip;include a reasonable number of images of good quality if said images are available.
 * 17) &hellip;pass review by the Inquisitorius review panel.
 * 18) &hellip;counting the introduction and "Behind the scenes" material, be at least 1000 words long (not including captions, quotes, or headers, etc).

For more information on what makes a featured article, see What is a featured article?

How to nominate:


 * 1) First, nominate an article you find is worthy of featured status, putting it at the bottom of the list below; see criteria above. Note that a previously featured article cannot be featured on the Main Page again; however, it can be restored to featured status.
 * 2) Others will object to the nomination if they disagree that the article is good enough; they will then supply reasons for doing so, and ways to improve the article (errors, style, organization, images, notability, sources).
 * 3) Supporters adjust the article until the objectors (with reasonable objections) are satisfied.
 * 4) The article is placed on the featured article list and added to the front page queue.
 * 5) Also, if, at least a week after the article's nomination, that article has 5 Inquisitor supports and no objections (or the objections have been stricken or overridden), it will be added to the queue, and will be officially known as a "featured article".

How to vote:


 * 1) Before doing anything, be sure to read the article completely, keeping a sharp eye out for mistakes.
 * 2) Afterwards, compare the article to the criteria listed above, and then either support or object the article's nomination.
 * 3) If you object, please supply concrete reasons for doing so, and how it can be improved. Please cite which rule your objection falls under! Failure to do so will result in your objection being considered invalid.
 * 4) As stated above, any objections will be looked upon by the nominator, supporters, and anyone willing to improve the article, and action will be taken to please the objectors.
 * 5) Once all objectors' complaints have been solved (or the article has five supporting Inquisitor votes and no objections after at least a week), the article will be added to the queue and be officially known as a "featured article".

Also remember to add Nominated at the top of the article you are nominating.

Every Sunday the next article in the queue will be highlighted on the Main Page as featured, marked with the Featured template and removed from the list of nominations. The beginning of the article then appears on the Main Page via the Featured article template. Nominees that are inactive for a month will be eliminated from the nominations list.

(3 Inq/4 Users/7 Total)
Support
 * 1) I've worked long on this article, and I think it is worthy. Any comments/criticism would be helpful.&mdash; Darthtyler Talk 01:44, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Thefourdotelipsis 00:16, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  Chack Jadson  Talk 23:31, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 4)  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 15:08, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) -- [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|40px]] dmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 15:20, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Ozzel 04:51, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 18:35, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Graestan [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 22:01, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) '''From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * 2) * Remove speculation on origin/parents' history
 * 3) * Not enough explanation of sunnydew nectar. Doesn't make much sense.
 * 4) * Wicket and Teebo incident section doesn't make much sense. There's irrelevant information that could be condensed, but it doesn't explain why they need to bother Gantu.
 * 5) * Wicket and Teebo's escape section doesn't make much sense either. It's written more like part of Teebo's bio, not Gantu's. The action is centered around the deeds of the Ewoks, not the subject (Gantu). Still don't get the whole sunnydew/Zandor Rocker thing.
 * 6) * P&T is rather short.
 * 7) * Is "Sunnydew nectar" a) supposed to be capitalized b) need to be linked three or four times?
 * 8) **Always hard to tell with comics, by my feeling is: no. I fixed the case, and it seems the links have already been fixed. -- Ozzel
 * 9) * Remove referencing from intro, per Sourcing.
 * 10) * Intro just doesn't read well, particularly the second paragraph.
 * 11) **Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:37, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) ***Um, are you being sarcastic? (that last line about the super happy un frustrating part.)&mdash; Darthtyler Talk 16:39, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 13) ****Not that it matters, but no, I'm not being sarcastic. I don't want people to think it's personal and that I'm picking on them- I do this to everyone. The exact phrasing was inspired by Darth Culator. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:42, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) *****Well that makes sense too, I guess.&mdash; Darthtyler Talk 16:48, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 15) Remove bullets from behind the scenes, the Lilo and Stitch bit has nothing to do with anything, fix the source on Image:Coruscanti ogre vs Divto.jpg, referencing should be per paragraph or maybe removed entirely since it's single source, which also means you don't need the first appearance bit. Green Tentacle (Talk) 17:22, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) *Done.&mdash; Darthtyler Talk 17:29, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 17) I'd like to see the intro be fleshed out. I don't think it's long enough for the Main Page yet. -- Ozzel 08:07, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) * I tweaked it a little bit, but I agree. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 13:30, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 19) Speculation in the Behind the scenes section. --Imperialles 19:39, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) *Speculation removed. I will also conduct a copyedit. I suppose I'm "adopting" this abandoned FAN. - Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 22:01, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * '''From the lair of Hobbes15
 * As a single source nom, no references are required; the ones in the article can be taken out.
 * Greedy and selfish in intro are POV.
 * Why were they looking for sunnydew nectar?
 * Fixed.
 * Where did Wicket get the Rainbow Crystal? The last the article says, Ebab is still guarding it.
 * Fixed.
 * Source for BTS section unless it is the same as the one Gantu appears in; if not, my first objection is null and void.
 * Yah, it's void. Thefourdotelipsis 23:54, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * That's all I have. I agree with Graestan, though, and believe that this article is too lanky for FAN, and might be better for the less demanding GAN. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 05:19, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * I think (and I am not alone) that there is not enough information from the source on Gantu (barring needless fluff) to make a Featured Article. Perhaps a Good Article Nomination would be more successful. - Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 04:03, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Although that might be personal prejudice against such articles :P. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 01:36, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

(5 Inqs/6 Users/11 Total)
Support
 * 1) Previously featured.  Chack Jadson  Talk 14:36, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 00:45, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 15:45, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Unit 8311 15:25, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 5)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 21:36, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Thefourdotelipsis 07:21, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) --Aabsdu 14:39, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) Even if he is a droid, it's a good read. Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 02:52, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) A worthy article Hunterj 16:53, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) Cull Tremayne 02:04, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Go, Chack. Is it indeed your birthday?  Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 02:32, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Conflicting sources should be sorted out. [[Image:The Death of Ki-Adi-Mundi.jpg|40px]]  Jediknight19bby  ( Jedi High Council Chambers! ) 19:58, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) The article says "Fighting broke out all over Pau City between droid and clone forces, destroying large parts of the sinkhole," and cites Revenge of the Sith. But I didn't see the sinkhole itself sustaining any damage when I saw the film . -LtNOWIS 01:56, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) * Also, I don't think there should be quite so many inter-section quotes, especially in "Endgame." -LtNOWIS 01:56, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) **Fixed.  Chack Jadson  Talk 23:01, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * 6) * Needs a reference at the end of "In the service of San Hill"
 * 7) *Needs a reference at the end of "The beginning of the war"
 * 8) * A bit more information from Labyrinth of Evil is needed.
 * 9) *IIRC, LOE has details on Belderone, etc, particularly when he rescues Gunray. I'd like to see that expounded upon. Some guy 15:24, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) **Ah. Sorry, some guy. ;)  Chack Jadson  Talk 22:42, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) * Some sticky wording in the death section, particularly in "However, during the fight, Kenobi had pulled one of Grievous's chest plates off, Grievous's armor having been previously damaged by Windu, revealing the synth-skin gutsack holding Grievous's remaining organs"<s?
 * 12) *P&T has no mention of his "softer" (okay, maybe just less bloodthirsty) side with Kunmar.
 * 13) *First lines of talents needs ref'd.
 * 14) *(Talents) "Formal forms"? Reword please.
 * 15) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Unfrustrating day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 14:32, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) **Fixed.  Chack Jadson  Talk 20:09, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 17) I'd like to see a solid source for the Gary Oldman thing. Also, you might want to mention George's plans for effing with Grivie's history in the upcoming cartoon. -- Ozzel 03:29, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) **Sourced the first. For the second, where did you find that?  Chack Jadson  Talk 21:38, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 19) I may be wrong, but I would think that the content from the Grievous comic would need a bit more fleshing out than just a passing mention. Thefourdotelipsis 23:37, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) * Actually, the coverage of things such as the Clone Wars Adventures books are far too light. And sometimes non existent. Thefourdotelipsis 23:39, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 21) Far too many images (Criteria 15). --Imperialles 19:45, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 22) Unsourced entries in the trivia section. Come to think of it, we should probably either get rid of the trivia section entirely, or merge the interesting parts with other sections. --Imperialles 14:18, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * No, I think the trivia section should be kept. It'll be interesting information for some people. Unit 8311 16:57, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) **Oh, God, didn't see that before. Get rid of the Trivia section, for God's sake. Any information that is really relevant will be important enough to be integrated into other sections. Thefourdotelipsis 13:15, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Just a couple of minor things:
 * 3) * Yes, get rid of the trivia section, per 4dot's argument. Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:45, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) * Please source the following information in the infobox: Homeworld, death, eye color, and cybernetics. I would also like to see his species sourced since it is not blatantly obvious like some characters.
 * 5) *The intro could stand to be expanded by a couple sentences; major events, etc. His death should also be mentioned at the end of the intro.
 * 6) *Looks/reads good otherwise :) Greyman ( Paratus ) 01:10, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Needs info from Dark Jedi --Eyrezer 12:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) *The problem with that is that we don't know when exactly that's set. Unit 8311 12:42, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) **It still needs to be determined, or written into the article somehow. Otherwise, without it, the article is incomplete per FAN standards. Greyman ( Paratus )
 * 10) ***Yeah, I'd say just give it your best guess and leave a note ref if you think it needs it. -- Ozzel 01:42, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) ****Done. Yes, I paraphased it from the Dark Jedi article, but the most important thing is that it's there. :) Unit 8311 16:20, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) Interwiki links are woefully inadequate. -LtNOWIS 06:49, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 13) *Fixed. -LtNOWIS 21:23, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) I'd like to see the introduction rewritten to remove POV ("fearsome") and poor prose ("He earned the rank of Supreme Commander, and as the commander,"). --Imperialles 14:19, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 15) *Fixed.  Chack Jadson  Talk 19:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) Unsourced image: Image:30th Lo General GrievousPreCyborg.jpg -- [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|40px]] dmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 19:56, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 17) *Fixed.  Chack Jadson  Talk 22:56, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) Few things:
 * 19) * I'd like to see BTS info on the publicity for Grievous; where he was first revealed, how he was first just known as "the new bad guy", etc.
 * 20) * Also, BTS statements need sourcing. Some have sourcing in the text, so not those, but stuff like the entire first paragraph, the cough, and the information on the upcoming series. - Lord Hydronium 10:30, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 21) Per Hydronium- sourcing needed.  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 13:35, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 22) *Fixed it up. Review it and let me know what you think. Sorry it took me so long.  Chack Jadson  Talk 01:29, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 23) From the lair of Hobbes15
 * 24) *No mention of the attack of Coruscant in intro? A little bit should be added, at least. 
 * 25) *Ref affiliation section of infobox.
 * 26) *3 redlinks- kind of edges the limit, although this isn't a full-fledged objection.
 * 27) **Still two; however, not enough to object. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 22:41, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 28) *In the last paragraph of Victorious on all Fronts, clarify the sequence of events. Grievous didn't know Gunray's mechnochair had been responsible for the leak of info until after the battle; however, he was suspicious of Gunray, and confronted him, which is the reason Gunray admitted losing the mechnochair. Because of this, Grievous didn't suspect anything was amiss when he led the assault on Belderone.
 * 29) *"Palpatine had been taken to a secret bunker aboard a maglev train;. Grievous and his MagnaGuards dueled the Jedi Mace Windu and Kit Fisto on top of the train." Reword this somehow so it makes sense.
 * 30) *Tis all from me. Interesting read. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 03:56, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 31) **Sorted that. Unit 8311 17:08, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 32) ***Thanks. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 22:41, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 33) ****Thanks for the help 8311.  Chack Jadson  Talk 01:29, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 34) Source Image:Grievoussabers.jpeg and licensing for Image:30th Lo General GrievousPreCyborg.jpg. Green Tentacle (Talk) 22:49, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 35) Couple of things from glancing at it (I will read it properly eventually):
 * 36) *The fall of Martyr, first paragraph needs a source.
 * 37) *Transformation: Source "He treated Grievous like a typical mindless droid even after being told that was not the case."
 * 38) *The beginning of the war: Source "Dooku, impressed with the general's performance at Geonosis, trained Grievous in the art of lightsaber combat, which Grievous took to at a rapid pace."
 * 39) *The general revealed: Source "Soon the entire Republic would tremble before Grievous's brutality and strategic prowess..."
 * 40) *Talents and abilities: Source lightsabers of people he didn't kill.
 * 41) *The beginning of the war, second paragraph: Redundant ref if it's all from one source.
 * 42) *Battle tactics and strategies, first paragraph: Redundant ref if the first two are the same source. Green Tentacle (Talk) 19:49, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 43) **Sorted the third one. Unit 8311 18:21, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * Well written overall and a pleasure to read. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 14:32, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Objections are fixed. Just needs a few Inq votes.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 22:52, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

(3 Inqs/5 Users/7 total)
Support
 * 1) --Eyrezer 00:01, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Cull Tremayne 00:49, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) You know Platt is where it's at! -- Ozzel 00:51, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Worthy long before this nomination. jSarek 00:53, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) That's how I like my FA's --Skippy Farlstendoiro 16:48, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) --Master Starkeiller 14:07, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, the FAN which I've been waiting months for. Finally got through the bugger, well done. Greyman ( Paratus ) 16:50, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Sheesh. Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 02:52, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Comments
 * It's very...well...BTS'y in the bio. "Probably" this and "It is noted" that...I don't know exactly how you can work around it, but I don't think it's particularly desirable. Thefourdotelipsis 01:52, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I tackled some of the worst of the prose. I leave it to Ey to decide whether to move the rest of the speculation to the Bts or Notes, or to leave it in a less florid state in the main text. jSarek 00:22, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * From the lair of Hobbes15
 * Three redlinks? They must go! :P (Not a full objection, but... a little close to the limit, I guess)
 * Could you ref the eye color and affiliations section of the infobox, please? The eye color isn't that obvious in her pictures.
 * "...Okeefe got the alcohol off him at the established cost with small favor thrown in"? Reword the "favor" part so it makes more sense.
 * A lot of un-refed content in Repaying the Debt. Is it all in Smuggler's Log 3?
 * As for the BTS'yness of the bio, couldn't we just say that Okeefe somehow managed to recover Bee-Zerobee and be done with it. The info on how it is surprising Okeefe could have recovered Bee-Zerobee can go in the BTS.
 * Just to clarify this, you are aware that it does not appear in the main text, but rather as a footnote? --Eyrezer 04:52, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... I think it was in the main text when I read it. Anyway, someone must have fixed it. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 22:28, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * What likely happened is that you opened the page for editing and read that, which shows the ftnotes in with the rest of the text but with s etc around it, rather than reading the actual text as it would have appeared on the site. --Eyrezer 22:55, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * That must be it; I was rewording most of the sections in some way. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:25, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * "This was not to say Okeefe was unaffected by the Rebellion enveloping the galaxy"? Obviously not, she's been fighting Imperials and turned one over to the Rebels. You might want to reword this, since the earlier paragraph is definitely not implying Okeefe was unaffected by the Rebellion.
 * Addressed. --Eyrezer 05:38, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * "...The presence of a Twi'lek made this impossible"? Why?
 * He wasn't Human so obviously not an Imperial. DO you think this needs to be spelt out?
 * Sorry; I thought you meant that the Imperials had a Twi'lek among them, and I wondered why a Twi'lek could not be bluffed just as easily as a human. Forgot that Thrawn was a special case. Never mind. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 22:28, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Could the stuff about Moorja's location be moved to the BTS?
 * Removed the ftnote as it is noted on Moorja's page already. --Eyrezer 05:08, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... maybe something was wrong with my computer, and the footnotes were inserted in the main text. Anyway, fixed, although I don't mind it as a footnote; I just thought it was in the main text. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 22:28, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Probably the same thing with footnotes as before. If you want it back, that's fine, I saw it in the main text, so I figured it might be BTS info. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:25, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Should "hid" be hit? I wasn't sure, so I thought I'd bring it up here (Section 1.10.1)
 * Yeah it should have been. Fixed
 * Ref the last paragraph of Vengeance Strike.
 * Done
 * A more conclusive ending would be nice, but if there is no more information, I'm fine with it as it is currently.
 * Is this like Stele, where the ending's kind of... sudden? Because if so, it's fine. It just seems a little anti-climactic, I guess. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:25, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Is Gathering Shadows a WEG product? If not, reword the BTS a bit so this is mentioned.
 * Clarified. --Eyrezer 08:42, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * That's all. I fixed all the minor stuff I found, and I'm impressed with the length of this article. Good work. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 19:12, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Currently the 48th longest article on Wookieepedia. Just to give you an idea of the length. :) --Eyrezer 00:18, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Did you forget that you're an Inq? :-P Cull Tremayne 00:49, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * If I'm not sure about an article, I vote as a regular user. :) Then if it is struggling, I can change my vote later lol --Eyrezer 03:50, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

(5 Inqs/3 Users/8 total)
Support
 * 1) Sikon 17:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) --Eyrezer 11:56, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Sikon, this is bloody good. I demand more FAs out of you, sonny! Thefourdotelipsis 02:38, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Per 4dot. Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 02:52, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Lord Hydronium 12:24, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 6)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:24, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Slash Z 19:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) Cull Tremayne 01:39, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Comments
 * 1) A few things:
 * 2) * The infobox image (Image:Kotor.jpg) has a Dark Horse watermark is generally low quality. Replace this.
 * 3) ** Replaced. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) * The introduction needs a good rewrite. Things such as Dark Horse's other current Star Wars comics and the chronology of the series are best discussed in other sections.
 * 5) ** Addressed the issues you mentioned - tell me if something is still wrong. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) * There's a few punctuation errors throughout the article: several instances of punctuation being placed outside quotation marks, and em dashes are erroneously surrounded by spaces.
 * 7) ** Corrected em dashes. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) * The "2007: Days/Knights" subsection of "Production" has several two-sentence paragraphs. Rewrite if possible. Why is the section given the affix of "Days/Knights," when the 2006 section has no affix at all?
 * 9) ** Explained on IRC, also see below. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) * The section "Core characters" should either cover only the core characters, or be renamed to "Major characters" or something similar.
 * 11) ** Renamed to just "Characters". - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * The thin paragraph issue applies to most of the "Plot" section as well, particularly the subsections "Commencement" and "Days of Fear, Nights of Anger."
 * 13) ** Expanded small paragraphs. - Sikon 14:56, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) * There's no reception section, and no mention of sales figures.
 * --Imperialles 17:50, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) ** Added. - Sikon 14:56, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) The core characters section needs to be wookified. At the very least, it needs a grammar cleanup.  Chack Jadson  Talk  20:09, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Image:Kotorteam.jpg needs to be properly sourced with the Information template. --Eyrezer 23:07, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) * Done. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) From the Grey of Man:
 * 3) * Image:Kotor.jpg is currently tagged with . Please rectify if this is going to be used.
 * 4) ** Deleted. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) * The infobox picture isn't really the best one that is out there, though I can understand why it was chosen. Maybe the following one, which I've linked to, would be better enjoyed by the community? Especially since it has full color. Image:Kotorhandbookcoverandtitle.jpg, just a suggestion.
 * 6) ** Done. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) * None of the character information in the "Core character" section has any reference tags. Please source info from the necessary appearances/sources.
 * 8) * What's the source for "&hellip;abbreviated as KotOR&hellip;"? I know it is often referred to as that around here, but is there a source for it being used in the comics/interviews/media etc.?
 * 9) ** Sourced. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) * The caption ("Dark Horse promotional image and preliminary issue 0 cover") is not needed below the picture in the infobox.
 * 11) ** Removed. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * Each entry in the Core Characters section needs to be expanded, IMO; and as already pointed out, needs to be cleaned up.
 * 13) ** See below about expansion. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) * It may have been intentional, but Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 0: Crossroads is not listed, along with the other comics, in the "Media" section. All of the other comics which were collected into the TPB Commencement are listed, and Crossroads was collected in it as well&mdash;please include.
 * 15) ** It's there, see below. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) * Please completely source the "Continuity" section&mdash;only a few paragraphs and/or pieces of information are currently sourced. Even though some of the information may be obvious, it should still be sourced to comply with FAN standards.
 * 17) ** Sourced. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) *** Better, but the first two paragraphs still need ref tags. The first paragraph needs at least one, if not more, ref tags of where the KotOR comics reference the TOTJ comics and the KOTOR games. The second paragraph simply needs a ref tag from either the Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic video game or even the Strategy Guide since it details some of the information listed. Using both wouldn't be opposed to either. Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 19) ****Reworded the first paragraph and restructured the section, so that the paragraph wouldn't require a reference (hopefully). As for the second, it openly says "in the game" and provides a link to said game, so I don't think it needs a reference - the game is established as the source for this information in the text itself, and I'm not a fan of having footnotes for the sake of them. - Sikon 12:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) *****Neither am I a fan of having footnotes for the sake of having them, if it can be avoided&mdash;and your re-wording of that specific part clears up my objection, thanks. Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:24, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 21) * Formatting for the "Notes and references" section should be a scroll box at the very least.
 * 22) ** Done. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 23) * Once the writing objections listed by Imp, Chack, and myself have been looked after, I'll go through the actual writing of the article. I don't see any point in doing it before hand.
 * 24) * In the "Continuity" section, the first sentence says "Set in the years 3,964 BBY and 3,963 BBY, at a midpoint between Tales of the Jedi and the video games&hellip;". It needs to be made clear that that the video games are Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic and Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords, as right now a wayward reader could mistake it for all the video games.  Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 25) ** Addressed. - Sikon 12:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 26) * I feel that introduction should make some mention about the fan reception of the series as well as any other relevant Real World impacts it has had&mdash;especially since it's an article about the overall series. Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 27) ** There haven't been any significant real-world impacts, to my knowledge, besides Vector &mdash; which I have now mentioned in the intro. - Sikon 12:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 28) **An interesting FAN which I could see becoming the template for future projects like it. Greyman ( Paratus ) 00:57, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 29) From the beaker of Lord Hydronium:
 * 30) * Expand on a few things in "Plot Summary", particularly the second paragraph of "Commencement". First, some explanation of the knighting ceremony, and second, a few more details on the vision, like the figure you mention later.
 * 31) ** Expanded the Commencement section to clarify this. - Sikon 12:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 32) * Nothing about Vector.
 * 33) ** Added a section about Vector and mentioned it in the intro. - Sikon 12:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 34) *No other complaints here. - Lord Hydronium 09:16, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 35) From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * 36) * Source handbook release.
 * 37) ** Done. - Sikon 12:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 38) *Copyedit plot summary
 * 39) *This is not the easiest of objections to resolve, but I'd like the prose in the plot summaries to be a little better. Some of the word choices don't seem to quite line up- I think a "misled" in there is kind of awkward. Another example is the way the last sentence of Flashpoint reads- it doesn't seem to flow. Also, a bit more detail in some parts, e.g. "After Zayne learned this." What did he learn- that the banker was his father? That the banker had been captured? Both?
 * 40) * Maybe it's because it has been freshly released/not fully released, but the Daze of Hate section is abominably small and hard to read/follow.
 * 41) ** Expanded with #20 events and restructured. - Sikon 12:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 42) *This is definitely not a hard and fast rule, but what about having an authors/pencillers/creators section on the page? Ozzel's SOTE soundtrack FA has a paragraph about McNeely and some of his background work, and I think that an entire series merits a section on the creators and their background, at least briefly.
 * 43) * Disambig link to other KotOR products needed.
 * 44) **Added. - Sikon 12:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 45) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating Day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 18:24, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 46) From the lair of Hobbes15
 * 47) *"Vision on the rogue moon"? What is this (the Lucien Draay section) ? As it isn't mentioned before, some mention should go in Draay's bio.
 * 48) *Does Characters need to be referenced? At the very least, the final paragraph of each character should be referenced, if not the main information area, IMO.
 * 49) *Per Ataru on the Plot Summary prose. ..."standing right there with lightsabers drawn", "misled"... the prose could most definitely be improved.
 * 50) *"the operation that eventually results in Arven being freed"? What operation? Some detail about it should be added.
 * 51) * Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 04:17, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Nominated on Sikon's behalf per request on IRC. -- [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|40px]] dmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 17:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Confirming the request on IRC. :) Plus some responses:
 * Sourced the "KotOR" abbreviation.
 * Replaced infobox picture per Greyman's suggestion, deleted Image:Kotor.jpg. Removed caption.
 * Removed references to other DH titles and specific years from the intro. Tell me if anything else needs to be done about it.
 * As I told Imp on IRC, 2007 has the "Days/Knights" subtitle because that's how Dark Horse refers to that meta-arc. There was no codename for 2006, hence no subtitle.
 * Renamed "Core characters" to just "Characters". But what is meant by "wookifying" this section? I'm not sure it needs to be expanded, either - it's an article about the overall series, so I tried to be as brief and concise as possible when describing the individual plot summaries and characters. Entries on individual arcs may have longer descriptions.
 * I still feel that the character entries should be longer, but I understand your reasoning and struck that particular objection. Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Removed spaces around mdashes.
 * Reception section: I'll add it soon.
 * Thin paragraphs: I'll expand them.
 * Sourced the unsourced part of the "Continuity" section. Things without a reference footnote are sourced in-text - for example, "Alek references the Great Sith War in Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 0: Crossroads."
 * Issue 0: Crossroads is already in the Media section, just out-of-order. Fourdot suggested listing everything by release date, and #0 was released after #1 and #2.
 * Put "Notes and references" in a scroll box, although I'm personally not a big fan of them.
 * Templatized the description for Image:Kotorteam.jpg.
 * - Sikon 07:48, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Could someone strike Slash Z's vote, as he has no edits on the main namespace? Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:22, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

(6 Inqs/4 Users/10 Total)
Support
 * 1)  Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 04:44, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 19:12, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Thefourdotelipsis 00:33, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Very interesting.  Chack Jadson  Talk 00:35, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 21:10, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Livingston  [[Image:Jedi Order2.jpg|25px]] ( The Force will be with you. Always. ) 16:31, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 07:48, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 8)  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 04:49, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 9)  —Xwing328 (Talk) 19:19, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) Cull Tremayne 01:02, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) " As the Sith Lords departed the Hall, Sylvar was comforted by Nomi and Cay. Her master was no more." - This strikes me as the wrong tone. Also, a few sentences earlier, you call Kun's powers "Impressive". Which strikes me as POV. Thefourdotelipsis 09:11, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *Sentences revamped.&mdash; Graestan [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 14:24, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) The sentence "It is a true testament to his highly developed dueling skills that Ulic Qel-Droma was able to hold off Sylvar's attacks without having access to the force" in Powers and Abilities seems out of place. I know what you mean, but it sounds like you're talking about Ulic. Rephrase it, and you'll have my support.  Chack Jadson  Talk  19:08, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) *Rephrased.&mdash; Graestan [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 19:40, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) From the lair of Hobbes15
 * 6) * In the intro, "cruelly" seems like POV to me.
 * 7) **Changed to "mercilessly," which only states that Kun was not showing mercy, and not delving into his intentions.&mdash; Graestan [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 13:50, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) ***That's good. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 21:43, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) * Also in the intro, can a little more mention be given on Crado's death, and the squabbling and such that took place causing it (i.e. Ambria and Ossus detail)
 * 10) **Sentence added.&mdash; Graestan [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 13:50, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) * And finally, mention Qel-Droma's death in the intro, as it's pretty important in the last part of Sylvar's story.
 * 12) **Sentence added; though it does kill the flow and effect of the intro.&mdash; Graestan [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 13:50, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 13) ***Hmmm... I guess you're right. If you don't think it should be there, feel free to take it out, cause it does kind of sound better without it.
 * 14) * In the first paragraph of The Great Sith War, was Sylvar on Ossus during these events?
 * 15) **It is not said. She is nowhere to be seen. I wasn't going to make a conjecture statement regarding her whereabouts.&mdash; Graestan [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 13:50, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) ***No problem, then.
 * 17) * "... but someone else did not" (The Trial of Ulic Qel-Droma)? Who?
 * 18) **Master Vodo. Read the first sentence of the next paragraph. It's a stylistic thing.&mdash; Graestan [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 13:50, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 19) *** Yes, I know, but from what I know of TOTJ, Vodo had very little to do with Qel-Droma in that scene, focusing his attention on Kun. It says Cay refused to kill his brother, but someone else did not&mdash; not Kun. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 21:43, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) ****Clarified, consarnit!&mdash; Graestan [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 12:09, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 21) *That's all on this one, Graestan. Glad I could get the critique to you before your vacation. And I like the P&A quote. ;) . Much more interesting story than Crado, in my opinion. Good work. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 04:57, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 22) **Thanks for your input.&mdash; Graestan [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 13:50, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 23) Could a brief mention of Vodo's attempts to shield Kun with the lightside en route to Deneba be mentioned, and Sylvar's coming to his aid? Other than that, an excellent read; good work.--  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 15:29, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 24) *Addressed and added. Greyman ( Paratus ) 02:52, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 25) From the battered desk of Atarumaster88
 * 26) * Let's shorten the end of the intro enough. It's enough to know that Qel-Droma's death was instrumental in redeeming her. Save the heavy detail for the main body.
 * 27) **I think the new version is better; take a look.
 * 28) * Crado gave? (2nd para of The Krath conflict) I've never read TOTJ but this makes no sense.
 * 29) **Clarified/reworded.
 * 30) * Powers and abilities- it would be nice if it had some information on other things besides her ability to kick butt. Is she a noted Force user? Does she have any particular Cathar hunting abilities?
 * 31) **Section on her tracking and stealth skills added. Great idea; thanks.
 * 32) * Reword last sentence of third paragraph of The Great Sith War. It reads awkwardly. And "ready as ever" sounds so cheesy in this context.
 * 33) **Is the new one better?
 * 34) * Reduce redundancy in the Conclave on Exis Station section. 1st Para: Sylvar was pissed at Ulic. 3rd para: Sylvar told everyone exactly how pissed she was at Ulic.
 * 35) **Taken care of.
 * 36) * While the piece/peace alliteration is quite clever, I don't think that sentence belongs in there. I don't think she was searching for peace. She was searching for vengeance.
 * 37) **See what I've added instead. Wow, that was very limerickish of me.
 * 38) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 23:10, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 39) ***Thank you.&mdash; Graestan [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 01:17, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 40) A few image objections:
 * Image:Sylvarcathar.jpg&mdash;would it be possible to get a better scan of this? Preferably without the .jpg artifacts.
 * Image:Sylvararmor.jpg could be cropped, unless you feel the end of the lightsaber hilt absolutely has to remain.
 * 1) **Fixed. Greyman ( Paratus ) 01:16, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Image:Sylvardace.JPG&mdash;requires cropping as the comic frame is visible in the lower left corner.
 * 1) **Got it. Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 01:28, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Image:Sylvarspeech.jpg needs to be rescanned and cropped.
 * 1) **Fixed. Greyman ( Paratus ) 01:16, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Image:Sylvarryloth.jpg needs to be rescanned, without the .jpg artifacts.
 * Image:Sylvarulic.jpg needs to be rescanned due to .jpg artifacts.
 * Image:Sylvarbitter.jpg needs to be cropped (the comic frame is visible).
 * 1) **Fixed. Greyman ( Paratus ) 01:16, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Other than that, excellent work. You'll have my support once these minor issues have been corrected. --Imperialles 13:25, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Comments

(5 Inqs/2 Users/7 Total)
Support
 * 1) Havac 08:05, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 02:52, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 20:25, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Yar! He's a pilot! Thefourdotelipsis 07:38, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Here's to length&mdash;insane length. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 21:37, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Worst Pilot in Rogue Squadron  Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 01:15, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Cull Tremayne 01:37, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Last paragraph of "First combat". I'm getting a bit of a "Keep your hands off Jimmy!" moment. "Darklighter did this. Darklighter did that. Darklighter with three bags full." Thefourdotelipsis 10:20, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *Largely de-Jimmyed. jSarek 10:43, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) The only thing causing me to withhold my support, is the succession box at the bottom at the article&mdash;I'd like to see, at the very least, the dates listed there provided with reference tags. Other than that minor thing, the article is awesome and one your best Havac.  Greyman ( Paratus ) 19:25, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) *I actually suggested reffing succession boxes back when we started reffing infoboxes, but was told not to bother. It's something I support anyway, so I'll get on it. Havac 20:03, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) In the "Striking back" section, we're suddenly dealing with a new COS. You might want to mention Fey'lya's death. Also, stuff like "got a goatee" and "dyed hair blonde" is better suited to the P&T, rather than the main bio. Thefourdotelipsis 08:48, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Also, in the section where Leia is apprehended and there's the smelling salts and all that, it's degenerated into a play-by-play. It needs to be more concise and have a more suitable tone. Thefourdotelipsis 09:47, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) *See about that. Havac 17:33, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) From the lair of Hobbes15
 * 9) * "bubbly"? How was Forge "bubbly"?
 * 10) **Bubbly personality. She was outgoing and enthusiastic. It's a fairly common term. Havac 04:10, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) ***Didn't know that. No problem, then. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 04:24, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * If the Iron Fist was badly damaged before it could flee, how did it get to Selaggis? Elaborate a bit on this (Last paragraph of The hunt for Zsinj)
 * 13) **It was badly damaged, which happened before it escaped. I'll clarify the wording a little. Havac 04:10, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) * I don't really care about the first two redlinks, but could the shield trio article be created? It appears quite a bit, as far as I remember.
 * 15) **I thought I put Goodwood on that a while ago. I'll talk to him; it's his specialty. Havac 04:10, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) * A little mention of why the crystal gravfield trap was required by the NR.
 * 17) **Hmm. Good point. Addressed. Havac 04:10, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) * When Pellaeon signed the peace treaty, what happened with the Caamas Document silliness? I forget the exact events, but mention that Pellaeon did not give the NR the document, they were forced to do something else to get it.
 * 19) **Ehhh . . . it's not really about the NR. I hesitate to digress any more than necessary. Besides . . . if they were going after Imperial info, and then made peace with the Imps . . . I think it's implicit to the reader that the information gets shared; the crisis is over. Now, the actual document is provided by Skywalker . . . but I just think that's more digression than the reader needs. "Oh, by the way, Luke came back from this totally different place where Thrawn had made a base . . . yeah, long story, well point is he happened to have a copy, in case you were wondering." Havac 04:10, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) ***That's fine. I suppose that would be a lot of extra info. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 04:24, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 21) * In the Swarm War stuff, mention that there were Killiks stowed aboard, and that was what Organa Solo sensed&mdash; right now it's unclear how the Ackbar was actually destroyed.
 * 22) **Well, actually . . . she wasn't destroyed. She was boarded; the Killiks aboard didn't play much of a role. I think I've clarified it a little. Havac 04:10, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 23) ***Oh, yes. Forgot about all the silliness with it attacking the Chiss, and that. Never mind. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 04:24, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 24) *That's all. Wow, he has some bad hair days. Incredible article, Havac. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 03:45, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 25) From the battered desk of Atarumaster88
 * 26) *A first look tells me that there is a wonderful amount of prose. However, there is not a wonderful amount of images. Before you tell me that there aren't any other images of Gavin- I believe you. However, that doesn't mean we can't have relevant images of other pertinent things ala Xaverri. I suggest some images of Biggs, the Battle of Yag D'hul, the Battle of Thyferra, an X-wing starfighter, Battle of Selaggis, raid on Folor? (Isard's Revenge cover), Battle of Mon Calamari, etc. Just do something to vary it up.
 * 27) **I do believe in the illustrative legitimacy of images not of the character being in the article, unlike some others, but I find myself hard-pressed to justify anything more here. Were there images of his X-wing in battle, his wife, anything I could link more concretely, I'd put them in. I already have images of the crest he designed and his girlfriend. While more generic images could be stuffed into the early section, I worry about the availability of images for the later sections, possibly resulting in some image imbalance. I don't think we need images for images' sake here; we've currently got an image in about every other section, and I really don't think that's bad enough that we have to resort to filler images. I think a simpler, cleaner style actually suits it better and is classier, rather than sticking in "Here's other people fighting in a battle he was in, Here's an X-wing; he flew one of these, Here's Jaina Solo; he recruited her, Here's Corran Horn; Corran was nice to Gavin when he was starting out." I've done that before for articles with nothing or next to nothing in the way of images or bad image imbalance, but I did it minimally. I don't think Darklighter is so bad off as to call for that. Havac 23:36, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 28) ***I disagree, especially given the small size of the images of Gavin that are available- that's certainly Lucasfilm's fault, but I certainly think two or three more images would contribute to the article's quality. If it comes down to a point of disagreement, I would say place it to a talk page or Inquisitorius vote. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 22:15, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 29) ****We'll have to disagree. Images aren't everything, and better to keep it clean and simple than stuff it with images for the pure hell of it. Havac 05:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 30) * Mention that Darklighter testified during the Celchu trial. I'm almost certain he did.
 * 31) **Already in there. "Darklighter often made time to attend the trial itself, and was likely called as a witness along with most of the other members of the squadron." I don't believe there's any explicit confirmation of his testimony present. Havac 23:36, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 32) *Needs another section added to separate the DNT and the Legacy stuff. And this thing better be updated for Denning's last book.
 * 33) **That section is ten paragraphs long, some of them larger than normal and some very much shorter than normal; a quick count shows another nine-paragraph section and several eight-paragraph sections. I've thought about breaking that section up, but ultimately just didn't think it was needed, as it's thematically unified and would be two rather short sections if broken up. If you insist, I can break it in twain, but I'm not entirely convinced it's necessary. And of course and future material will be added in a timely fashion. Havac 23:36, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 34) ***My problem with the overlong section is that it basically deals with two major events: The Dark Nest Crisis and this 4th fleet and Confed-GA war. That is not thematically unified in my opinion, and two five-paragraph sections is not what I would define as "rather short." Ditto on the talk page or Inq vote though. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 22:15, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 35) ****Split. And your sig code is ridiculously long. Havac 05:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 36) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 20:22, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 37) From the squalid cubicle of Graestan:
 * 38) * "Darklighter" is used excessively. Could "Gavin" be substituted for a solid chunk of these instances? Especially when talking about multiple Darklighters.
 * 39) **Use refined when talking about multiple Darklighters. Havac 05:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 40) * "Biggs and Gavin were not close, but Biggs would sometimes spend time with his younger cousin, even taking him along occasionally when Biggs spent time with Luke Skywalker, during which trips Darklighter met Owen and Beru Lars."&mdash;can this be broken up, and perhaps spend time/spent time not used so close together?
 * 41) **Broken up. Havac 05:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 42) * In the last paragraph of "Rogue," Corran Horn's full name should be used in the first occurrence, to remind us of who he is. This should be a precedent for other character mentions; this is very like the first objection.
 * 43) **Horn's name is used in his first occurrence. Havac 05:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 44) * In the fourth paragraph of "First Combat," you point out that Ooryl is awake twice in rather rapid succession, which I find awkward.
 * 45) **Finessed. Havac 05:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 46) * Okay, last name overload. This sounds like a police report. Cannot some names be changed, to make it less stiff?
 * 47) **Hell no. Characters should never be referred to by first name only, unless distinguishing between two people of the same surname. When was the last time you saw an encyclopedia refer to Winston Churchill as "Winston"? Do encyclopedias call George W. Bush "George"? This is not fiction. We use last names. Havac 05:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 48) * Levian system redlink should go.
 * 49) **That's not a rule-based objection. :p Havac 05:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 50) *&mdash; Graestan [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 00:34, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * No, I haven't actually read it yet. More objections to come. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 20:22, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

(6 Inqs/2 Users/8 Total)
Support
 * 1) --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 12:25, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Crazy dude. Can survive decapitation, but can't hack blaster fire? Bah! Thefourdotelipsis 01:29, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  —Xwing328 (Talk) 21:11, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 00:52, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) WP:TOTJ chugs away...  Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 01:21, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Very good.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 19:01, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) This'll be heading for the queue in no time. Green Tentacle (Talk) 22:30, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) Imperialles 14:16, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Just one thing: "...Sith servant, armed to the teeth" from the "Duel with Marka Ragnos". Does this simply mean his whole body was covered in weapons (like a Mandalorian's armor)? if so, please rephrase it.  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  18:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *Well no, it's meant to be a figure of speech. Anyway, I clarified it --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 18:17, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) From the squalid cubicle of Graestan:
 * 4) * Weak first sentence. Give it a little more juice.
 * 5) **Addressed.
 * 6) * "Special jar" is silly, in my opinion.
 * 7) **Addressed.
 * 8) * Intersperse the "Simus"es and "he/him"s with some more innovative mentions.
 * 9) **Addressed.
 * 10) * More quotes, please. Just one or two are needed.
 * 11) **Done.
 * 12) * "Heavily armed with several Sith weapons" is mildly contradictory and redundant at the same time. Congratulations; please reword. Heck, I think "massive, heavily armed Sith servant" is best.
 * 13) **Addressed.
 * 14) * Sorry to get image-wonky, but could you have better versions uploaded of some of the images? I know a person or two with great scanning abilities as well as mint-condition copies of the comics.
 * 15) **I've asked JMAS to re-upload them.
 * 16) *&mdash; Graestan [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 01:46, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 17) **Thank you for your comments and input --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 09:42, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) From the lair of Hobbes15
 * 19) *Simus wasn't a headless male (1.2)&mdash; he was a bodyless one. Reword this a little.
 * 20) **Addressed.
 * 21) *Did Sadow kill Simus's slave as well when he shot at them? Clarify this.
 * 22) **Clarified.
 * 23) *That's all. Severed head, huh. That's new. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:34, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 24) From the fjord of Imperialles:
 * 25) * Image:Simuss.jpg&mdash;would it be possible to get a better scan of this? It currently has some sort of odd distortion.
 * 26) **I've had a look and I can't find any better scans of the comics. I'll ask someone for a better scan.
 * 27) ***I scanned a better copy of that picture and got rid of that distortion, whatever it was. Greyman ( Paratus ) 14:18, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 28) * Image:Simus2.jpg needs to be rescanned, this time without .jpg artifacts.
 * 29) **Per above.
 * 30) ***Fixed. Greyman ( Paratus ) 14:18, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 31) * Introduction: "&hellip;he used his ancient Sith powers to preserve his life." "Ancient" is POV. Reword.
 * 32) **Addressed.
 * 33) * 1.1: The above applies to the sentence "Using ancient Sith techniques&hellip;" as well.
 * 34) **Addressed.
 * 35) * 1.1: "&hellip;gruesome, dismembered head." "Gruesome" is POV&mdash;reword.
 * 36) **Addressed.
 * 37) * 1.3: "Simus's former apprentice responded angrily, banging the table with his gauntleted hands." A bit too flowery.
 * 38) **Addressed.
 * 39) * BTS: Perhaps a short mention of how Simus changed from his preliminary design, if only to give context to the image.
 * 40) **Addressed.
 * --Imperialles 00:35, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your comments and input --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 12:20, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * I apologize for all the Tales of the Jedi nominations (there's still more to come), though this one is vastly different from any of the others. An interesting character from an interesting story. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 12:25, 29 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Try not to go semi-colon or em dash crazy when writing articles. The grammar was my only original complaint. —Xwing328 (Talk) 21:11, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Should the P&T be before the P&A? Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 15:05, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Done --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 16:39, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

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Support Oppose Comments
 * 1) --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 20:41, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Good stuff. Thefourdotelipsis 23:20, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 00:40, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 01:16, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) I always wondered how Nomi learned to Sever Force. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 17:04, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Can you specify which Gamer article it is? --Eyrezer 21:30, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Done --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 21:38, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * From the park bench of Four Dot:
 * "Eventually, Teta's men looked like they would prove victorious, eventually breaking the blockade set up by the Kirrek pirates." - Eventually, I'd like to see that sentence cleaned up.
 * Fixed, eventually.
 * "After one such procession, Odan-Urr and Memit Nadill rescued two siblings, named Jori and Gav Daragon, from two elite assassins hired to kill them by the Cha'a merchant Ssk Kahorr, who was owed money by the two siblings." - Two sibiblings twice. Could work better, methinks.
 * Addressed.
 * "During Sadow and Kressh's vicious fight, the spirit of the late Marka Ragnos appeared, telling the two Sith that though the Sith Empire was at the height of its power, the fate of the Empire hanged in the balance." - You wacky Americans might operate differently, but shouldn't that be "hung"?
 * I'm actually a wacky Irishman :P, but yeah, fixed.
 * I humbly apologise.
 * Apology accepted.
 * "Odan-Urr eventually met Nadill with Teta in the Empress's chambers, and recounted the dream, and then told them his interpretation of it." - "And theeeeeen?" :P
 * Addressed.
 * "After much fighting, the re-enforcements from Ronika had yet to arrive, and the Massassi, a group of elite Sith warriors, were giving the Republic many casualties." - "Causing" casulaties might be more apt.
 * Changed.
 * "Teta told them that great damage had been done, but Nadill optimistically told her that they could repair everything." - Seems a bit peripheral and unneeded.
 * Removed.
 * "Although Sadow, who had been chased to the moon of Yavin 4, and Kressh had been killed, many of the other Dark Lords and members of the Sith Council were still at large." - "Although Sadow had..." might work better here.
 * Addressed.
 * "Ulic's mind was already made up when Odan-Urr and Ood Bnar, a Neti Jedi Master almost as old as Odan-Urr, showed him, and Nomi Sunrider, whom he had grown close to, a definitive history of the Teta system, which was written by Odan-Urr's late friend, Empress Teta." - This is a tad unwieldly.
 * Addressed.
 * Perhaps an image of Kun actually attacking Odan-Urr would be more suitable as the first image in the "Death" section.
 * Well, there isn't actually a picture of Kun attacking Odan-Urr&mdash;at least not one with the two of them in it. Kun sort of sticks out his hand and it glows in one frame, and the next is the one already in the article showing Odan-Urr lying face down on the floor. I guess I could upload the picture of Kun, but I think it would look out of place without Odan-Urr in it.
 * I think it would probably better, in an illustrator...y sense. As it is, there are two images of Odan-Urr there that don't differ greatly in aesthetic look, and the first one isn't telling us much. So, as long as you keep the second image of him dying, I think that the Kun picture would be excellent. By that same token, a lot of images just show us Odan-Urr, and never him actually doing something. For instance, if you could find a wider image of the Conclave with him still visible in it, it might be of more use. And for the P/A section, instead of having the comic cover, which just shows him brandishing a saber, it might be good to show a panel of him in actual combat. (And then, you could crop the comic cover and get a headshot. :P) Thefourdotelipsis 00:13, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I've uploaded the Kun picture and cropped the cover image for a new infobox headshot image (though JMAS replaced it with a not-so-headshot-but-sort-of-headshot image, which I think is ok). I added the only real frame of him in combat to the P&A, though no can do on the Deneba thing. There's only two images of him in total in the Deneba part of the comic: the one that's currently there, and another one of the stage thingy, with Odan-Urr little more than a spec in the middle-background. About the a lot of images just show us Odan-Urr, and never him actually doing something, the thing is that he doesn't really do all that much in terms of action, and two, the majority of his pictures in the comics (bar the ones in the article and a few others) aren't very detailed or good. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 17:00, 5 October 2007 (UTC) (I promise I'm not trying to be difficult)
 * To explain: the reason I put a not-so-cropped version up instead is that Ack's upload cropped off the bottom of the image too much. The part which showed the powerpack that operated the lightsaber. Since that image is also used in the lightsaber article to illustrate ancient lightsabers without an internal power supply, I thought the current image as I cropped it better suited to the needs of both articles' uses of it. - JMAS 17:15, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * There's no reason we can't have a different cropping for each article. -- Ozzel 20:34, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Acky's changed the focus to Odan-Urr, while the other one is focusing on the saber and carboard cutouts of purple flames. I think we should keep Acky's cropping. Thefourdotelipsis 23:20, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * "He could also[2] change the nature " - I don't think we need to source the fact that he could "also" :P
 * Well, the thing about that is that the Power of the Jedi Sourcebook states that he used them, but the Revised Core Rulebook states what they do, if you know what I mean. Anyway, I rephrased it.
 * Other than that, excellent work. These should be quick fixes, though. Thefourdotelipsis 08:37, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your comments and input. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 15:31, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) From the squalid cubicle of Graestan:
 * 2) *I changed a few minor things in order to keep my list short and neat.
 * 3) **Thank you.
 * 4) * "A thousand years" should be reworded to the proper "one thousand years."
 * 5) **Done.
 * 6) * No instances of starting two sentences in a row with "Odan-Urr," please. In fact, you use his name too much.
 * 7) **I've cut down on the use of his name a fair bit, and fixed any two sentences in a row starting with Odan-Urr.
 * 8) * Any specific mentions of the Library or Great Library should be capitalized.
 * 9) **Addressed.
 * 10) * "Lived for over a thousand years" and then "over a thousand years old at the time of his death" in the intro are redundant. The intro should not repeat much information, especially specific information.
 * 11) **Addressed.
 * 12) * Something between the two headers. A short paragraph, perhaps, or a definitive quote. I just don't care for headers back-to-back.
 * 13) **Short paragraph inserted.
 * 14) *&mdash; Graestan [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 23:32, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 15) **Thank you for your comments and input. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 16:59, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) From the keyboard of Hobbes15
 * 17) * Three "he's" in a row starting sentences in the 1st paragraph of 1.6.
 * 18) **Addressed.
 * 19) * Same in the last paragraph of 1.7.
 * 20) **Addressed.
 * 21) * First sentence of P&T is incomplete.
 * 22) **Addressed.
 * 23) ***No it isn't. Check again. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 14:08, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 24) ****Bah! Addressed again.
 * 25) * Did he lash out at others with his lightsaber "often"? I don't think so.
 * 26) **Addressed.
 * 27) * Should the force powers mentioned in the P&A have articles created on them?
 * 28) **I suppose. I've linked them, and I'll get around to making the actual articles when I'm not so lazy.
 * 29) *That's all. Very interesting character, despite the fact that he's a TOTJ person again :P. Good work. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 04:37, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 30) **Thank you for your comments and input (except the TOTJ one :P)--  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 09:12, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 31) ***No problem :). Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 14:08, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * This is the longest article I've ever attempted on my own, so I probably overlooked a few things, though I think atfer much work it's ready. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 20:41, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Eh...I'd like to see a better infobox image. Thefourdotelipsis 13:22, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I've been looking for a good headshot but unfortunately the only good one is slightly obscured by his hand&mdash;all the others of him seem pretty shoddy/unsuitable. I'll keep my eyes open for a better picture but I doubt I will find one --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 15:31, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

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Support
 * 1) I put a lot of work into this one; I think it's accurate, interesting, concise and complete. I would definitely welcome any criticisms or suggestions, but I definitely think it is worthy of being a featured article. &mdash; Colinmcev Talk 03:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Thefourdotelipsis 04:27, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Just glanced at it, but the Personality and Traits should be at the end of the article, you know. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 04:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *Fixed that.--Colinmcev 18:30, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Would be nice to have a BTS (Behind the scenes) section, covering stuff like who created the character, where he first appeared, any continuity errors, etc. Also, this would be a good place to include one of those wacky Galaxies pics. -- Ozzel 02:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) *Added both. Thanks for the great suggestions!--Colinmcev 01:35, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) From the Thoroughly Pounded Desk of Four Dot:
 * 6) * There's a little bit of POV in the intro, and "He betrayed Rogue Squadron during a covert mission and attempted to kill Corran Horn, but he was shot and killed by his lover, Inyri Forge." could probably be rephrased.
 * 7) **I reworked it a litlte bit and removed what I thought was the POV. If there is any left, or if you think it needs further rephrasing, please let me know or feel free to tweak it.--Colinmcev 01:27, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) * "Zekka Thyne served on Black Sun" - Sounds dangerous. I think he just "served Black Sun", but I think "joined the Black Sun syndicate" would be better.
 * 9) **I agree! Fixed that.--Colinmcev 01:28, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) * Just a general observation: There are a lot of unsightly "thin" paragraphs. Of course, you can "cheat" on this one and just merge a couple of the offending paragraphs together.
 * 11) **This is a bad habit of mine; in real life, I'm a reporter, and in newspaper articles small paragraphs are required. lol. I tightened them up a bit, but if you still think there are paragraphs that are too thin, please point out which ones and I'll make further fixes.--Colinmcev 01:38, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * Another observation: The end of every paragraph containing In-universe information should have a relevant citation.
 * 13) **Fixed that.--Colinmcev 01:41, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) * "eliminate single targets and slaughtering informers and even their families." - This could be worded better.
 * 15) **Tightened the sentence altogether, I think it's better now.--Colinmcev 01:42, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) * "In 7 BBY, Fliry Vorru, then a Moff in charge of the Corellian Sector, was sent to Kessel after being framed by Prince Xizor. This allowed Xizor to establish Zekka Thyne as his chief associate in Corellia." - How so? This might need more clarification.
 * 17) **Done.--Colinmcev 01:43, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) * "However, he was well protected by his heavily protected fortress" - One of the "protected"'s needs to be replaced, methinks.
 * 19) **Yeesh, what a lame mistake. Fixed that.--Colinmcev 01:43, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) * Even though you link to cutter, you might want to briefly explain what it is.
 * 21) **Done.--Colinmcev 01:44, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 22) * Take the image of the Bothan Thyne out of the bio and put it in the BtS. Also, assume that they're separate characters. I cite Chertyl Ruluwoor as a precedent.
 * 23) **I don't necessarily agree that the SWG Thyne should be a seperate character since both are affiliated with Black Sun and are clearly meant to be one and the same; maybe it's just me, but I think just noting the Bothan discrepency is enough. But I did move the pic.--Colinmcev 01:49, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 24) * "Although Loor attended the meeting during which the plan was formed, he started a confrontation with Corran Horn that resulted in Fliry Vorru punching him in his abdomen injury and smashing his head against the table." - Eh? You might have gotten you characters a bit mixed up there.
 * 25) **Yeah, that "Loor" should be a "Thyne." Fixed it.--Colinmcev 01:50, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 26) * The preceding sentence also starts with "Although", which doesn't flow well.
 * 27) **Fixed that and redid much of the sentence altogether.--Colinmcev 01:52, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 28) * "With this, Zekka Thyne died." - Too short a sentence, but I could be wrong. You'll want to integrate it into the preceding paragraph, though.
 * 29) **I think the short sentence works for effect, but I agree that it is WAY too short as an individual paragraph. Merged it with the previous one.--Colinmcev 01:53, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 30) * Mention who the other spy was in the Post-death section.
 * 31) **Done.--Colinmcev 01:55, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 32) *Best of luck with all that. It might take a bit of work, but I think there's some good foundation here. Thefourdotelipsis 09:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 33) **If there's anything else, please don't hesitate to let me know. Thanks for the thorough look!--Colinmcev 01:56, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, first things first: Don't strike other people's objections. It's frowned upon. However, you got most of them. I still have an issue with the paragraph spacing. Basically, in the first half of the article, merge every pair of paragraphs. It just looks a lot neater and, well, meatier. Thefourdotelipsis 23:27, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) **I'm really sorry about that, I've never nominated an article before so I didn't really know the proper procedure. I tightened the paragraphs a bit, let me know if you think that looks better.--Colinmcev 23:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) ***That's OK, you know now. Good work with this though. It looks fine to me now. Thefourdotelipsis 04:27, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Got some things here:
 * 4) *In the Appointment to Corellia section, it first says the Moff was framed by Xizor. Then it later syas it is widely believed he was framed. That sounds reptitive and contradicts the above info somewhat.
 * 5) **Actually, Moff Fliry Vorru was definitely framed, and accordingly that is definitively stated. But the person who is noted as "widely believed" to have been framed is the previous owner of the fortress. That isn't Vorru, it's someone else who is never identified in any of the source material. So the two references are not related, and I don't think there's an error there.--Colinmcev 01:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) *Also, the protected fortress thing that Fourdot mentioned earlier needs fixing.
 * 7) **Right you are. Fixed that.--Colinmcev 01:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) *In the Spy for Lorr section, the last paragraph needs to be ref'ed.
 * 9) **Done.--Colinmcev 01:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) *In the Imperial scheme section, the second-to-last paragraph needs to be rephrased. It's too repetitive.
 * 11) **Good call. I think I fixed it, but if you still think it needs work, let me know or go ahead and rephrase it.--Colinmcev 02:00, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) *The last paragraph int hat section needs to be sourced.
 * 13) **Done.--Colinmcev 02:00, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) *In the Imprisonment paragraph, the "Maw" needs to be unlinked.
 * 15) **OK..--Colinmcev 02:02, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) *The first paragraph needs to be sourced too.
 * 17) **Fixed it.--Colinmcev 02:02, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) *In Presence on Coruscant, the first paragraph needs to be rephraes as it sounds repetitive.
 * 19) **I agree, big time. Fixed it.--Colinmcev 02:04, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) *Also, change execute to shoot.
 * 21) **To be honest, I don't think this change is entirely necessary, but I made it anyway.--Colinmcev 02:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 22) *In the Death section, "this new" should be "this news".
 * 23) **Another dumb mistake. Fixed.--Colinmcev 02:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 24) *In P&T, the word "Wookiee" needs to be unlinked. Also, rearrange it so it flows, going from his perosnality to his appearance than his tastes, not jumping around.
 * 25) **I think it already is that way; the first paragraph is personality, then we have three paragraphs of appearance, and the last one about his art taste. If this isn't acceptable, can you give me some further clarification on how it could be rearranged?--Colinmcev 02:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 26) *And everything from Release from Kessel to Post-death needs sourcing.
 * 27) **Done.--Colinmcev 02:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 28) *Good luck.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 19:24, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 29) **Thanks again, I really appreciate the thoroughness!--Colinmcev 02:09, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * 1) *I finally got to read Side Trip and I expanded the section with a whole lot of info from that. As that was the final major source for Zekka, I think this article is pretty much as complete as possible.--Colinmcev 01:35, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *Colinmcev, I uncrossed Chack's objections, because, after checking the history, I realized that he didn't cross them out, you did. For future reference, the way these things work is that you make a comment when you've addressed an objection, the objecting user looks at the article, checks to see if the objection is fixed to his/her satisfaction, and then crosses it off. If they still see a problem, they'll point it out. Thank you, and good work with the objections ;). Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 02:24, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) *Yeah, I'm sorry about that; as I said about, I've never nominated an article before so I didn't really know the proper procedure. I was basically crossing them off as I fixed them, but I'll make sure that doesn't happen again.--Colinmcev 23:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

(5 Inqs/2 Users/7 Total)
Support
 * 1) Nominated.  Greyman ( Paratus ) 00:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  00:31, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Imperialles 16:56, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Hooray to non-TOTJ!:). Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 22:37, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Bah! Headshot! Thefourdotelipsis 00:18, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Coolest armor on a clone. -  Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 03:57, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Cull Tremayne 01:34, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Bacara's willingness to kill Mundi even though he respected him deserves a short mention in the P&T, me thinks. Other than that, the usual good work, Greyman.   Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 03:49, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *Thanks, and added :) Greyman ( Paratus ) 13:35, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) From the Heavily Pounded Desk of Four Dot
 * 4) * This might seem silly, but has Ki-Adi-Mundi ever been referred to as "Mundi" in canon? Is it really his surname? I thought his name was just one big...thing, what with the super-double hyphen tag team he's got going on.
 * 5) **Heh, I honestly don't know. But I added Ki-Adi- in front of those few Mundi's.
 * 6) * This isn't a real objection but...you're sure there's no headshot? :P
 * 7) **If there is, I haven't found any. The picture that is currently in the infobox came from his databank entry, and I haven't been able find it in a high res format yet. Although, I think the current one works fine, IMO. :P Greyman ( Paratus ) 13:35, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) ***BAH! Thefourdotelipsis 00:18, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) * In all seriousness though, I think the images could be used more effectively. At the moment, they're just all spaced out proportionally, which might look nice, but is misleading. Perhaps move the Vanishing point image down to the pertinent area of text, and the Sith screenshot down to the Order 66 section. That way, you're actually using them to illustrate the text. ;)
 * 10) **Placed accordingly. Thanks for the input. Greyman ( Paratus ) 13:35, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) *Otherwise, no problems. Interesting character. Thefourdotelipsis 09:57, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * Bah, another non-TOTJ creation...what's come over me? :P Greyman ( Paratus ) 00:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Think of it as a breath of fresh air :P. Then take another, and another, and... Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 03:49, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

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Support
 * 1) Lord Hydronium 12:57, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Cull Tremayne 00:35, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Heave to! Thefourdotelipsis 10:20, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 22:40, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Great nom; very well-written, a good read.  Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 03:57, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Object Comments
 * 1) Though the opening crawl of A New Hope says that this was the first victory of the Rebellion, other engagements in which the Rebels won have been portrayed that take place earlier. Source? Or some examples? Cull Tremayne 14:55, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *Added. - Lord Hydronium 20:47, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) From the lair of Hobbes15
 * 4) * What happened to the older Anamor when he fought Storm? His fate might deserve a mention&mdash; all it says right now is they fought a battle and Storm managed to get the plans.
 * 5) **Clarified.
 * 6) * Ref the last sentence of the BTS, please.
 * 7) **Hm...that's more deduction than anything. I mean, ANH is still canon, so we need to take that "first victory" into account. But at the same time, those other things are canon, so it's not really the first victory. But if you think it's too OR, I suppose it can go. I just think it'll be left hanging somewhat then.
 * 8) ***I'm not really a vicious hater of reasonable OR. I don't mind if it stays. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 22:40, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) *That's all. At last, the continuity of the Death Star plan craziness is deciphered! Yay! :). Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 04:29, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) **Hehehe...good one. There's a reason I'm very glad X-wing, Empire at War, Lethal Alliance, and Battlefront II don't involve Toprawa: I don't have to deal with that mess here. :P - Lord Hydronium 04:59, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) ***Just wait for Death Star. :). Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 22:40, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

(4 Inqs/2 Users/6 Total)
Support
 * 1) Thefourdotelipsis 13:42, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  18:56, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Lovably short.  Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 00:37, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 05:01, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Imperialles 15:57, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Cull Tremayne 01:35, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) From the squalid cubicle of Graestan:
 * 2) *Reditribute links in body of article, placing links at the first mention of each article to be linked. Also, look over for more potential links.
 * 3) *"Vulnerable" and "constantly prone to enemy attack" are POV.
 * 4) *Vape "to unknown ends," please.
 * 5) *&mdash; Graestan [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 01:14, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * Yet another installment in my WTS series. I imagine that FU will provide some new info, but rest assured, I'll get right on it. Thefourdotelipsis 13:42, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

(3 Inqs/2 User/4 Total)
Support
 * 1) --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 19:48, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Much better. Thefourdotelipsis 23:12, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Imperialles 16:44, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Nah-nah!  Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 18:12, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Nasty little bug-lover! -- Ozzel 17:52, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * I've only looked at the first two sections, but so far, it reads like a play-by-play. It needs to be trimmed down or cleaned up for concise...ness. Also, I'll get you those images as soon as possible. Thefourdotelipsis 00:03, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the images. I've had a go at de-play-by-playing the Wicket and Cindel section, though I'm not sure if I'm doing all that good a job. Could you take a look and tell me what you think? --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 12:51, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I've had a go at the other sections, though once again I don't know if I'm doing a good job --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 17:21, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) From the lair of Hobbes15
 * 2) *Did Cindel take the crystal whateveryoucallit or not? As far as the article says, she saw it, and then they ran.
 * 3) **Addressed.
 * 4) *Doesn't The Battle for Endor seem a little grandiose a section title? The battle seems far less serious to me, although I know that's what the movie's called.
 * 5) **Addressed.
 * 6) *What happens to Terak's men after he's defeated. All that is said is that they retreated to the Keep.
 * 7) **That's pretty much all we're shown.
 * 8) *That's all from me on this one. First a severed head, and now this guy? What next? ;) Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 03:21, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) **You'll see ;) --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 12:40, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) Trivia-like BTS. Betterify. --Imperialles 13:15, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) *Do you mean the format or the content of the BtS? If you mean format, then it's been addressed. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 15:10, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) A few things:
 * 13) *It might be worth mentioning briefly what brings Cindel and Wicket to Noa in the first place and why the Sanyassans are after her.
 * 14) *Two uses of "bloodthirsty" seem POVish.
 * 15) *Ditto calling the Sanyassans "beasts".
 * 16) *Skirmish with Terak's warriors: "Teek found Terak's men, however&mdash;he inadvertently led them back to Noa's ship." That em dash just makes no sense dagnammit. Green Tentacle (Talk) 18:25, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * There are several more pictures to be added to the article (courtesy of 4dot), but due to Wikia imploding and 4dot living on the other side of the world, they have yet to be added. They should be there in a couple of hours, anyway. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 19:48, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * 1) Thefourdotelipsis 03:12, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

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Comments http://www.theforce.net/episode1/newspics/hidden_coleman.jpg
 * And the beat goes on.... Thefourdotelipsis 03:12, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Since Rob's Ep1 cameo in the arena crowd has been retconned to be Treblanc, can we get a screenshot of that, and have it added to the character's appearances? QuentinGeorge 06:15, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Plus a quote. I know you can find one. QuentinGeorge 06:16, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I've been whining about this on the IRC today...and I scanned through the TPM podrace trying to find him. No such luck. Do you know the timecode, QG? Thefourdotelipsis 06:36, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * According to this page on TFN, he's the circled guy in this image:

Dunno if you can get it clear enough to be worthwhile. QuentinGeorge 09:10, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh, I actually went ferreting around TFN before I saw that. I got the shot, and it's not too useful, however, if it can be replaced by a high-def shot, it might be good. Thanks for that QG. Now if only I could find a quote... Thefourdotelipsis 09:42, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I went on my DVD and...though its the right frame, TFN has circled the wrong guy - Coleman appears on Gardulla's left, just as Jabba first appears. It's quite clearly him. QuentinGeorge 10:00, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks for that...I was going to say...the other dude doesn't look too much like Coleman. Thefourdotelipsis 10:31, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The circled guy looks like it might even be Ben Burtt. jSarek 10:44, 9 October 2007 (UTC)