Talk:The Star Wars Holiday Special

Star Wars:Galactic Battlegrounds
I own this game, and I believe it features several screenshots from the special, if thats worth mentioning I don't know, could someone confirm this and wether or not it belongs in the article anywhere?207.5.197.180 22:53, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Is this considered a film?
It was a TV show, but was it really a full movie? BTW, I'm going to post a copy of the show. Feel free to post a better one (or in a better format) if you have it. WhiteBoy 01:10, 27 Mar 2005 (EST)
 * Yes, it is considered a film. Adamwankenobi 14:27, 6 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * No, it is a tele-movie. Not a film. .  .  .  .  10:12, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

New version
I have GREATLY added and improved this on wikipedia, and have copied that version here, as it is much more detailed. I'll wookieefy later and upload the appropiate images. Adamwankenobi 05:53, 24 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Random Trivia
Holiday Special featured a M'shento'su'Nikto, named Kelbo, a subspecies of Nikto not seen in any of the 6 main movies!JustinGann 11:02, 6 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Interesting, I'll add it! Adamwankenobi 11:17, 6 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Allegiance
"Lucasfilm has hired well-known Star Wars author, Timothy Zahn to write a book entitled Allegiance, which will serve as a prequel to the animated segment of The Star Wars Holiday Special" ...come again?? CooperTFN 03:37, 4 Dec 2005 (UTC)


 * Yes. I read once, I believe it was actually on the TF.N CUSWE, that Zahn's new novel would occur directly before the animated segment of the holiday special. This would then qualify it as a prequel novel. Adamwankenobi 05:46, 4 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Could you possibly track down a link? I don't see why info like that would be on an Encyclopedia site, one way or another. CooperTFN 06:03, 4 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, see this link. Adamwankenobi 06:30, 4 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * The note below Allegiance's listing about setting up the cartoon is for the Holiday Special itself, not Allegiance. I'll grant that the book is listed right before the Special, but for one thing, that's just a presumed timeline placement; there's been no absolute confirmation of the dating yet as far as I know. For another, taking place right before something does not a prequel make. Alan Moore's Tilotny Throws a Shape, to take an example from down the page, is not a prequel for Planet of the Dead from Tales #17. CooperTFN 06:39, 4 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Anyways, isn't the Holiday Special sometime inbetween IV and V? So wouldn't it be an original trilogy novel rather than a prequel one?
 * Yes and yes. Adamwankenobi 07:09, 9 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Canon
Unlike the rest of the EU, this movie was done by Lucas himself. Why isn't it G-canon? MoffRebus 09:59, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Because, unlike the rest of his movies, George Lucas has declared it to be complete and utter crap, and he'd like to destroy every copy of it ever made. Just because he made it doesn't mean it's part of his version of Star Wars. jSarek 11:43, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * That's not quite the reason. Canonicity is defined by Lucas Licensing. Currently, they consider only the six theatrical films, screenplays to those films, novelizations, and radio dramas to be G-canon. Although Lucas wrote the story for the holiday special, the two ewok films, and had a hand in projects like the Clone Wars animated series and will work on the upcoming live-action series, they are still considered EU / C-canon. Adamwankenobi Talk to me! My home. 14:13, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, that's not how it works: "Anything in the films and from George Lucas (including unpublished internal notes that we might receive from him or from the film production department) is considered "G" canon" (from here). If it's from Lucas, it's G-canon.  As a side note, the only G-canon things in the screenplays, novelizations, and radio dramas are those things which came from Lucas himself (as discussed here). jSarek 01:29, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I thought Lucas disowned this entire special and wanted all copies of it tracked down and burned. Majorthomme 02:11, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but its storyline and characters have been referred to in so many other EU works, it's as well integrated into canon as anything else. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 02:14, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Muppet Show?
Up until the release of Revenge of the Sith (which introduced Luke and Leia as infants), the Holiday Special was the only other live-action production, outside of the Original Trilogy, which featured any of the "big three" (Han, Luke, and Leia).

This is not actually true, as Mark Hamill did play Luke on an episode of The Muppet Show around the same time. Granted, the Muppet Show appearance is definitely not canon, but it was a live-action appearance.

Unidentified Star Wars Symbol?
I recently got a copy of the Star Wars Holiday Special - Angrysun Edition and noticed on the back cover that there was a strange marking similar to the era markings. (i.e. Rise of the Empire, Old Republic)



It might just be the angrysun logo, but I'm not sure and I'd like to know.


 * In Star Wars, that's the symbol for Black Sun. Adamwankenobi 23:55, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

What a mess!
God, the article is in horrid shape. Punctuation, repeating itself...hell, half of it is just copied and pasted from Wikipedia. And the Synopsis is a blow-by-blow account, far too lengthy. How is this an FA again? . .  .  .  10:11, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I specifically wrote the synopsis to be a blow-by-blow account, as we are not limited by the "concise" standards of Wikipedia plot summaries. For an example of what I am trying to accomplish, look at any of the Star Trek episode summaries over at Memory Alpha. Some of the "summaries" are nearly book-length! Adamwankenobi 21:01, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Red Links
Anyone else think we should get rid of some of the red links? I don't think we need an article about "What Were They Thinking?: The 100 Dumbest Events In Television History" Trueblue9999 22:45, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * That probably goes back to when this was a Wikipedia article. So yeah, they should be removed or converted to Wikipedia links. -LtNOWIS 23:09, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Canonocity?
Is it G-canon? I always thought of it as EU but I saw that the story was written by George Lucas himself.--Herbsewell 00:53, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I can't say for sure, but based on George Lucas' comments on the film, I'd wager not. 68.228.89.148 19:57, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

In my User Page i have the Star Wars Holiday Special
Hi, i have in my User page this special...but also it is possible to be seen in You Tube Sincerelly: User_talk:Starkiller1996

Image culling needed
The amount of screenshots from this is surely a severe breach of fair use. We should have at most 2 in the plot summary, and then only when needed in other sections. . .  .  .  03:49, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Commercials from the special?
You really should see the commercials that aired during the Star Wars Holiday Special, 'cause they're pretty good. For example, there's a commercial for Bell telephones where a telephone is dismantled ("This isn't the phone... this is the phone"). There's also a McDonald's commercial promoting the Egg McMuffin ("There's more in the middle of an Egg McMuffin than an egg in the middle of a muffin"). There are also two commercials for General Motors that take you inside the automotive plant where you hear comments from the workers about their jobs ("I like welding!"). There's also a commercial for Fruit Of The Loom underwear where an old lady picks a grape off of the green bunch ("I think this fruit deserves a little picking!"). There are also commercials for odd toys (such as the Tobor, which is robot spelled backwards) as well as commercials for products I've never heard of (Sheer Indulgence pantyhose and something called Twice As Fresh?!), and even commercials for 1978 CBS programming (Bobby Vinton's Rock'n'Rollers and Lucy Comes To Nashville) - and even a brief report from CBS News that mentions about Khrushchev and "the New Jersey blizzard of '78"! Someone should create a section in this article about these novelty 1970s commercials that were featured during the Holiday Special.
 * No, because they have zero to do with Star Wars. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 23:56, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't forget "Fighting the Frizzies, at 11." jSarek 00:00, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I only wish they still had these commercials on YouTube - it's been several months since they've been available for viewing, and I can't believe the user had to remove those grainy commercials that he uploaded off a burnt DVD with dubbed material from a dusty videotape that he must have found in the attic or someplace; that user has got to put those commercials he removed back onto the website!