Talk:Anakin Skywalker/Legends

Clone Wars
Please update from the TV series.

Imperial Spy
Information about Rogor should be deleted from the Construction of the Executor because it is already canonically placed in the Completion of the Executor QuiGonJinn 10:51, 25 August 2008 (UTC)QuiGonJinn

Where does the "canonical" placement for this come from, though? The author intent, plus internal evidence (Q-7N) places it far earlier, just before Mission # 9 - 12.

Sith Lord Section
Right After Force Choke its says ''Vader also appeared to have great physical strength, able to lift a grown man by the throat with one hand, and picking up the Emperor and hurling him to his death. Whether these feats result from his use of the Force or from the power of his cybernetic limbs is unknown. However, it seems most likely to be a result of his mechanical appendages, as when he choked Obi-Wan in their battle on Mustafar. '' In the last sentence I'm pretty sure Vader never chocked obi-wan with mechanical appendages on Mustafar because that was before he even had mechanical appendages right? DracosTheBlack 02:38, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, his right arm was already mechanical following his duel with Darth Tyranus on Geonosis. Can't remember if it's indeed this arm that he uses to choke Obi-Wan though....Darth Revan. 11:18, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * True true, the sentence just made it sound like as "Robotic Vader" to me. Can it be changed to be more clear so we can know if its talking about "metal" vador or "meat" vader heh.DracosTheBlack 14:22, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Also in the Force Absorb section it talks about Vader absorbing blaster shots which is not cited. In Empire Strikes Back he deflects them with his gloves and in the armor section it says that his gloves are made unique micronized iron to deflect anything but a Light Saber. It should probably be changed to deflect blasters with his gloves or cited where it says he can absorb them.DracosTheBlack 15:09, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Read Splinter of the Mind's Eye, the first Star Wars EU novel ever written, among others. He gets shot and isn't injured. - Milo Fett [Comlink] 15:10, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Then that needs to be cited because he uses his gloves in the movie and it tells you that's what they are for in the armor section.DracosTheBlack 15:12, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm going to change this to his armor deflect unless there is a source provided. The star wars data bank says his gloves can deflect anything short of a lightsaber.  DracosTheBlack 15:47, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Vader cannot use the Force!!!
Ok, i was thinking the other day, since anakin's arm got sliced off in AOTC, in ROTS, he doesnt (and, according to the Starwars universe, can'l) use the force on/from that arm. later in ROTS, he gets transformed into the quadra-mechanica-ed(mechanical limbed) Darth Vader. According to the SW universal rules and the rules of the force, a jedi/sith/force-user cannot use the force (actively) if he doesnt have any flesh&blood in that area. So, my question is: how come in TESB, Vader uses the Force to pull Han Solo's blaster to him, after stopping/absorbing the blasts with his gauntlet??? And, if this is an exception, are the "rules of the Force" more like 'guidelines'??? L1berat3r 02:59, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Where exactly did you here this? I seem to be having trouble finding it myself. // ~mikah~  03:36, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

I can only assume that the jedi/ sith are controlling the force with their mind, and last time i checked vader still had an organic head.

Umm, no? He can't use electrical energy-based force moves. (force lightning and such.) And his connection to the force is reduced. (Though his force potential is still much greater than other sith lords. And one must remember that the force is infinte, and only the strength of your wil governs what it can do.)

Anakin's apprentices
Ahsoka Tano,Antinnis Tremayne, Halmere, Lanu Pasiq, and Gwellib Ap-Llewff are in the Known Masters section instead of the known apprentices section.
 * Sorry didn't realize it was in the right section it just looks that way on the page. {{Unsigned|Pwnzor326}

Image
I don't know if there's been a war over this already or something, but please, no Hayden Christensen. Darth Vader's picture is much more recognized, and much more respected. 129.107.81.12 21:21, 1 September 2008 (UTC) 1 - In this case you're wrong, he dies as an old man, and, following your logic, we would need a picture of Vader without his helmet saying good-bye to Luke. 2 - This is *DARTH VADER*, possibly the most important character in Star Wars, rated as the 5th greatest movie villian of all time, and you're ruining his image for the sake of your personal technicalities that don't even follow logic? That's too much. Normally, when I encounter bureaucratic types like you, I'm only mildly annoyed, but I'm genuinely pissed off that you're screwing over Darth Vader for this. How dare you? I mean really, how dare you? This is a disgrace to the OT. A pure, and total disgrace. Why? 129.107.81.12 01:36, 18 September 2008 (UTC) OK, sorry for the outburst (and the unnecessary personal/collective attacks), but seriously, why? The logic of "he died as a Jedi" does not follow through to justifying making the image of Hayden Christiansen, since Darth Vader did not die as Hayden Christensen, he died as Vader/Anakin with part of his vital helmet missing. Personally, I don't like that as an image either, but it makes more sense logically than your justification for Hayden Christiansen. All in all, an image of Vader, if for no reason other than respect for the Original Trilogy, belongs as the image. 129.107.81.12 01:42, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * He died Anakin Skywalker, so it makes sense to show him as his Jedi-self. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 21:35, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No it doesn't. That makes as much sense as putting Hayden into the ghost scene at the end of EP VI - none. Everybody I knows' first reaction was "wtf? I thought he was old??". That said. Please, no pretty boy. Darth Vader is, and always will be, the more respected and well-known character than Anakin Skywalker. It's only fair to use his image. After all, it has a lot more screen time than any of the three other actors. And frankly, Hayden isn't worthy of such a place. I *STRONGLY* object to this outrage. 129.107.81.12 01:24, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, if you want to be picky about "how he died as a Jedi", he died as an old man (Jedi), and we would have to use the picture of Vader without his helmet at the end of EP VI (telling Luke "tell your sister, you were right"), since that is the last we see of him alive - as a Jedi. 129.107.81.12 01:30, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Look, I understand that a lot of you Wookieepedia anal-rententive control-freak nazis like to be picky about things, but:
 * WHY?! 129.107.81.12 01:37, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * #takes a few moments to collect himself#


 * Actually, I have a new suggestion, why not make an image that places all three different "Anakins" as well as Darth Vader together in one photo? That way we see all the different key stages of his life, and everybody is happy? :) 129.107.81.12 01:43, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * And in that image *maybe* include Darth Vader with the part of the mask removed as well as the cartoon Anakin, but probably not those last two... 129.107.81.12 01:44, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Umm, in an atricle about anakin skywalker, putting a symbol of all that anakin fought against as his picture seems a lil' wrong.--70.71.240.170 03:46, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Starkiller's Training
On Corellia, when Vader and the Emperor's trap snaps shut on the Rebel leaders, Vader informed Galen that he had lied to him "from the very beginning". Also, when Galen accuses Vader of never intending to destroy the Emperor, Vader states "not with you, no". It is also stated, in the book and the graphic novel, that Galen's kidnapping from Kashyyyk was the Emperor's idea. If all this is true, why did Vader train Starkiller, if not to destroy the Emperor? Why would the Emperor want Vader to have an apprentice? .

It's explained in the story itself. The entire thing was an elaborate plot to both destroy the Empire's enemies (Galen killed several Jedi who could have posed threats to the Empire) but also to root out the Empire's other less obvious enemies. Those being Bail, Iblis and Mothma (and others like them). Palpatine knew that there were those who still didn't like what he had done and wanted to get rid of them. However it was hard to single out just exactly who these dissidents were, so by having Marek bring them to light by creating the alliance he could take them all out in one swoop which he would have done had Starkiller not intervened. What he had originally planned to end quickly before it could ever gain momentum ended up becoming the Rebel Alliance that eventually grew into the New Republic. You might say it was a little over the top to go through all that just for that purpose, but, well we're talking about the man who started an entire galactic war (the Clone wars) just so he could destroy the Jedi and place himself in the seat of power. Hope that explains it. - Darth Endis 23:07, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Picture
The original picture is this one :. The quality is too bad when you see it at 100%, the original image needs to be reduced a little bit to improve its quality. It would be sad to have a so bad quality picture for one of the most important articles of the wiki. Klow 16:51, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * "[We] don't have permission to access that file." The profile picture is fine as it is anyway; there's no need to change it. // ~mikah~  18:31, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Praesitlyn
Someone please add Battle of Praesitlyn section. I haven't read the book, but I think it was an important part of skywalker's career. QuiGonJinn 18:05, 6 September 2008 (UTC)QuiGonJinn

Vader's gloves or Force Absorb/Deflect
Is vader's blast absorbtion/deflection really due to the the gloves or the force? I recall that in the Empire:Betrayal comic he deflects blaster fire and the blast not only accuarately hits the trooper's head but it hits harder than a regular blast and takes the troopers head off. And in Boba Fett: Enemy Of the Empire when Boba is firing at him he is redirecting all the fire coming towards him to his sides before it hits his glove. The Ten (04:18, 7 September 2008 (UTC))

In addition to that I think it's referenced in I Jedi when Luke is trying to get a feel for what Corran can do with the force he tells him about what Vader did with Han's blaster shots and says he think Corran can do the same thing through the force. Jacenskylo 16:14, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Ah yes i went and read through i jedi and Luke did comment that his father could absorb or deflect blaster bolts and that he could use the energy to perform telekinetic feats. The Ten 17:32, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Why can't I edit?
OK, I am mad. I want to add the stuff about Teth and Cristophisis and praesitlyn, but I can't. Why not?74.186.151.239 22:17, 8 September 2008 (UTC).
 * Due to what I'm assuming was persistant vandalism attempts (the article was semi-protected even before I joined), unregistered and new (younger than five days, I believe) users are incapable of editing the article. Instead, you can post your desired additions here, and other users will glaldly add them for you. As a final note, you should consider getting an account yourself to avoid this situation in the future; new users are always welcomed. :) // ~mikah~  22:26, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

did Vader know?
In episode IV, did Vader know that Leia was his daughter?
 * I'm not sure, but Anakin Skywalker has been tricked a lot in his life. -- Michaeldsuarez  [[Image:Infinite_Empire.svg|10px]] ( Activate Holocron ) 16:14, 11 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Vader learned she was his daughter eventually (as he used the idea of turning Leia to the dark side to lure out Luke in Episode VI), though I've no idea when. I tried finding an answer in the article, but I'd no luck. // ~mikah~  18:48, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If you want to get technical, Vader still didn't know it was Leia when he was taunting Luke. All he said was, "Sister. So, you have a twin sister. If you will not turn to the Dark side, then perhaps she will." No mention of him knowing her identity. -  JMAS  Hey, it's me! 19:01, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * However, he did know Leia was Luke's sister as soon as one day after his death, because he appears to her on Bakura in the Truce at Bakura. So, somewhere along the way he found out, be it putting the pieces together himself or once he reached the netherworld of the Force. 19:07, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Something that I believe could use some clarification
I was reading the article, and got up to the part where Anakin killed Ke Daiv in [i]Rogue Planet[/i]. The article's wording makes it pretty clear that Anakin killed the Blood Carver with the Dark Side. But then, lo and behold, it states that "However, this was later proven not to be the case."

If Anakin DIDN'T kill Daiv with the Dark Side, then how DID he kill him? And if this IS true that that ISN'T what happened, shouldn't that part be edited to clarify things a bit?

Because, if I have to be honest, I find the wording rather confusing. I mean, the article does a complete 180 by saying one thing, then saying "Oh, wait, sorry, that ISN'T what happened" and then leaves it at that. Dewback rancher 01:22, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Didn't Force Heretic III state that he used the dark side? I believe Rogue Planet explicitly states that as well.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 12:47, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Anakin's Conception
Hey I've heard alot of debate about Anakin's conception. Some time ago I read a very enlightening article about the subject. Unfortunately I do not remember the author, but they did pose one good point. Why would Sidious create someone who had the potential to kill him?

5.3 Factual correction - Chapter 6 Appearance: Change needed about Jedi Garb.
After reading this, and having extensive studies of the jedi garb worn by Hayden Christiansen in Revenge of the Sith, and also at the research of many others, I need to wholeheartedly disagree with the stating that Anakin wore a large amount of 'Black'...

The only thing on his clothing that was black was the Covertec Clip used to hold his lightsaber hilt to the belt. Everything else was a very dark shade of brown. This includes; The Lambskin (and Cowhide Stunt) Leather Glove used on his right arm, The 'Lambskin' and not Pleather Tabards worn on his torso, as well as the Outer Tunic AND Obi, followed by the Belt, Boots and Spats being brown also...

He did not wear black, as it was not in the Jedi Code. Many pictures may show that he has black on, however those are all Promo Shots. The dark brown garb were 'meant to simulate' his shift to darkness whilst still maintaining his precence as a Jedi, and as such may appear on screen in some instances as black, but never were so. The Picture in this section is of a Promo Shot, however if you scroll up to the top of the page, you can clearly see the garb is dark brown, and that the tabards are not Pleather.

If more extensive proof is needed of this fact, I urge you to visit www.sonsofthesuns.com and look inside the forums, which have a collective database of the costumes of Anakin Skywalker through the movies, which many members have screen accurate costumes to be members of the 501st and Rebel Legions, the Premiere Star Wars Costuming Organisations worldwide, raising money for Starlight Starbright foundations with Movie accurate costumes..

Hopefully you will be able to change this section, and possibly remove the black Promo Photos with replacement of ones showing the real costume. Cheers and hope you all can agree with me on this one :)

Matt 'Alcfalath' Wilson.

BH/SL-6618, 501st Legion, Terror Australis Garrison.

Temple of the Twin Suns Temple Master, Rebel Legion Tatooine Base.

Punishment
The ==punishment== section states "Palpatine was not pleased with Vader's failure at the Battle of Yavin, however, and Darth Vader was punished by losing his hand" As far as i'm aware anakin lost his first hand dueling Dooku in episode II and then his other in episode III. in the scene where he attempts to crawl from the edge of the lava, he is clearly maimed and missing all limbs except for the mechanical replacement for the one he lost in episode II... Am I misremembering?
 * That information (as I recall it was mentioned in Thrawn Trilogy) was written before the prequels were released so it intended to be the reason of Vader's artifical arm seen in Ep VI. But now, in the light of the prequels, it can be considered that Palpatine simply cut off Vader's mechanical arm. QuiGonJinn (Comlink)[[Image:Quigonheadshot.jpg|25px]]

Sith Master
Would Anakin be considered a Sith Master since he killed Palpatine (the first time), and that that is a requirement to become one. I know he returned to the light side, but for a moment he did achieve the requirements to be considered a Sith Master? Should this be mentioned anywhere like in trivia? Dark Ridley 19:06, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * If you went to the Sith Master or Sith apprentice article beforehand your question would have been answered. Steves490 19:13, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I was just wondering due to technically he didn't train an apprentice between Palpatines and then his own death, and that is a requirement. I know he had apprentices, but those were while Palpatine was still alive. Dark Ridley 19:19, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * He shouldn't be considered a Sith Master because when he grabed Palpatine and threw him in the Death Star's core, he ceased to be a Sith and was once again a Jedi. QuiGonJinn (Comlink)[[Image:Quigonheadshot.jpg|25px]]19:48, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Anakin's conception replys
I for one think that Anakin was in fact created by Plageis. did i spell his name correctly?
 * Sadly, we aren't the place for speculation; please see WP:NOT for more on what is and is not allowed. Additionally, his name is spelt with a U after the G (so it's "Plagueis"). And lastly, please sign your name with simply ~ after your post, which will automatically generate your signature. Thank you. // ~mikah~  23:14, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Main Image
There is one thing that confuses me. As I understand, the main picture is meant to represent character's last known appearance, that's why we have Alec Guinness'es appearance instead of McGregor's on Obi-Wan's page. So why do we have Hayden Christensen in the infobox here? I think the main pic should be changed to that of Sebastian Shaw from ROTJ. QuiGonJinn Always remember, your focus determines your reality. 16:48, 30 November 2008 (UTC)


 * the last known appearance of Anakin was at the end of ROTJ on Endor. and it was an blue and very awkward looking Hayden Christensen. --Black Jack Scarron 04:21, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, but it was his appearance as a GHOST. I mean Yoda, Obi-Wan, Qu Rahn, Dark Woman etc. all later appeared as ghosts but we still use their last known live appearance as a main pic. I don't know why Anakin is an exception. QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force...[[Image:Quigonheadshot.jpg|16px]] 09:48, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It doesn't make any sense, I agree, but there are too many wiki-control freaks who would gladly spend days reverting it back to Hayden. To be totally honest, having Hayden in Episode VI still doesn't make sense no matter how you justify it, because he died an old, redeemed man, being redeemed doesn't instantly make you young again. Xanofar 20:06, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

What If Anakin Skywalker...
Hello. You all know that Anakin Annie Skywalker was turned to the Dark Side by Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious. Well, think if i goes like this: Anakin does save Mace's life, and kill Sidious. He continues training on TLSOTF ( The Light Side Of The Force), and does not turn on TDSOTF (The Dark Side Of The Force)?
 * Talk pages are not a place for speculation. QuiGonJinn Always remember, your focus determines your reality.[[Image:Qui-Gon negtc.jpg|20px]] 17:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Knighthood

 * The prior canon has established that Anakin was knighted 20 BBY. Now, the new Clone Wars "saga" is stating (per Wild Space) that Anakin was Knighted a month after Geonosis, placing it at 22 BBY.  Has this been addressed by Lucas Licensing yet? Duke Starhopper 21:23, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Not yet, but they are working on it. QuiGonJinn Always remember, your focus determines your reality.[[Image:Qui-Gon negtc.jpg|20px]] 14:48, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Lame - shouldn't they have thought about this BEFORE they started? They have a Keeper of the Holocron, for The Maker's sake... They have one huge Clone Wars multi-media series, just to be replaced by another?  Annoying... Duke Starhopper 04:03, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * They did it because Lucas wanted to give Anakin a padawan in the new series, and in order to do it they retconned an entire Clone Wars timeline. You can thank George for that. I don't like this either. QuiGonJinn Always remember, your focus determines your reality.[[Image:Qui-Gon negtc.jpg|20px]] 11:34, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * A Padawan that doesn't even merit a mention during the events of RotS. She's THAT important to the mythos... Duke Starhopper 00:19, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, Lucas wasn't planning to make this TV series until way after Jedi Trial was published. And besides, he's only changed the timeline, not the actual events (so far), so I'm not going to complain until he does that. Randombattledroid 22:46, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I KNOW he wasn't planning the TV series then, which is why there's no reference to Asoka in RotS. But, by changing the timeline, everything changes.  He's mentioned as a padawan in every other Clone Wars work, there's no Asoka (so, what happens to her? Dead?  Off on her own so she maybe survives Order 66 and appears in the Live Action TV show?), and I'm sure events will eventually start conflicting (it's a 2 year period - things will end up over-lapping).  Great job, George.Duke Starhopper 00:06, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Meaning of Vader
Is there any place that mentions where Palpatine came up with Vader's name? It seemed he had it readily available, so it seemed to come from somewhere... 70.178.12.157 23:53, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

I think it is because Anakin invaded the Jedi Temple during Operation: Knightfall, his first and most important mission as Sidious' apprentice. However, on a more deeper level, if we are to believe that Anakin was the result of the Sith's midichlorian manipulation and his "miraculous consception", then in a way the sith actually invaded the Jedi Temple in the guise of an innocent 10 year old boy, who grew up to know every inch of the building and had the respect of so many other Jedi (both young and old). When the time was ripe, Anakin would become a Sith apprentice and invade the place he had called home for so long, as was always part of the Sith's ultimate plan: to have one of the Jedi's greatest Knights turn against them and invade the temple as a Sith Lord. Makashi Master 16:45, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Why doesn't Vador use force lightning?
Since Vador has the dark side potential of lighting-users like Dooku, Palpatine, and Galen Marek, then why didn't he ever use force lighting?
 * It's Vader. And his armor prevents him from using it (think of the end of ROTJ).  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 12:35, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Darth Vaders fighting moves in Soul Calibur 4
I was thinking that because not much at least in great detail is know about Vaders personl fighting style. I think we should seriously consider the names and, the way he does his fighting moves in the Soul Calibur game to be cannon, but not to be considred all, and only fighting moves.

(bk777)
 * Non-canon.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 15:03, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

I do not understand why his fighting moves with his lightsaber would be considered noncanon just because its in this video game. All of his saber attacks are realistic to his character, are tactical, and add more to his fighting style. If you no one thinks it canon just because of the game it was fleshed out in, he would be left with just simple over head and horizontal attacks. In this game the designers took the time to make his fighting style true to the character, that fact alone should make it canon. For instance, if you wanted to point out what moves Vader used on Luke at the end of EP V before Luke loses his hand, you could say, with extreme detail, Darth Vader used Imperial Buster followed by Tempest Breaker, before throwing Luke to the ground and giving his first ultimatum, and so on.

(bk777)

Main Image
I think we should find a better image, the current image looks like Anakin sucked into the Dark Side already. Ldude893 13:24, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I think we need a picture that includes images of at least Ep. 3 Anakin AND Darth Vader (because Darth Vader is easily more well known and easily recognized world-wide than Anakin is), but I agree with you on this one being poor, it looks like he's smirking kind of IMO. And please, nobody make the argument that Darth Vader became Anakin in the end, so he should actually be portrayed a Hayden Christiansen, because he died an old redeemed Jedi, not a young redeemed Jedi, so unless you want an image of the scarred mask-less Vader (which I'm pretty sure no one does), I suggest you rethink your logic. Xanofar 20:03, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Article title
I think we should put "Anakin Skywalker (Darth Vader)" as the title. Yeah, it's not "accurate", but let's face it, what is he more well known as world wide? I know plenty of people who if you said "Anakin Skywalker" they wouldn't know who you were talking about, but if you said "Darth Vader" they'd not only have heard of him but be able to identify him from a photo. Xanofar 20:12, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Darth Vader and Anakin should be two different articles because people who are new to Star Wars need to have knowledge that Anakin is Vader but we intertwine their (Vader and Anakin's) fates at the end
 * No and no. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 13:08, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Age
how old was anakin when he died? Ason Trayon Feb. 18 2009
 * You really should just read the article, but I'll be nice and tell you he was about 44. Mecenarylord 00:46, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Image
I think that we should change the main image of anakin into something that actually makes him look like a good guy cause the current main image makes him look preety evil. i was thinking of replacing it with a pic of hayden christensen as a force ghost. Ason Trayon Feb.18 2009
 * This issue was brought up several times. And while I completely agree with you that we should change the main pic(not because he's evil, but for reasons I presented above), other users seem to think differently. QuiGonJinn Be mindful of the Living Force...[[Image:Quigonheadshot.jpg|16px]] 10:18, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Why is there no mention of how most fans find Anakin as a really crappy character
Really, if doesn't take a brain to realize that George Lucas made Anakin into a crappy character during the Prequels. I mean just watch AOTC and ROTS and you'll see what an idiot and whiney brat Anakin is. There should be a mention about how Anakin appears as a crappy character to most fans in the Behind the Scenes section. That is definitely something worth mentioning. 173.66.213.157 00:34, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * No it's not worth metioning because that is a POV. Some people may think he's the coolest character in the Star Wars galaxy. But we wouldn't include that. And unless you find a source with George Lucas saying, "I made Anakin Skywalker a crappy character in ATOC and ROTS on purpose." We will never include that. Mecenarylord 00:44, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, you must be an idiot. Yes, I called you an idiot because it is showing in your response. First off, you're last sentence makes no sense whatsoever. I never asked for you to include that George Lucas purposely made Anakin a crappy character, so there was no point of your last sentence. It doesn't help your argument. What I am asking is that there should be a note in Behind the Scenes about how a good portion of the SW fanbase sees Anakin as a poorly done characters in the movie and that they greatly dislike him. Yes! This is a fact! If you have been read any SW forums, you will know that it is a true fact and not just my POV. Many people dislike Anakin. It is not uncommon for a Wiki page to point out if a certain character is greatly disliked, so that should be added onto this wiki article. Anakin is greatly disliked by many fans and it should be noted. It's the POV of many, so it should be noted. 173.66.213.157 03:29, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * He is not and idiot. You're the idiot, especially if you think you can waltz in here and talk to people like that without getting in trouble. I'm getting an admin. GroceryBag Grocery Store 03:34, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Regardless of your viewpoint of Anakin, this page is for his facts, not your and others' opinions about him. Also, please respect that some of us do like him, and while you may not agree with us, you don't have the right to try and degrade others. --CC7567 03:50, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Good job GroceryBag, your plan failed, sorry. Anyway CC7567, what I am trying to say is that a good portion of the SW fanbase disliking Anakin for being a poorly done character is a fact. It is a fact that he has gotten alot of slack from how George Lucas portrayed him in the prequels and I believe it should be noted in the Behind the Scenes section. 62.26.17.197 04:03, 22 February 2009 (UTC)