Wookieepedia:Mofferences

All Wookieepedians are invited to attend the occasional Wookieepedia mofference. Kindly don't be scared away by the name; we like to have all opinions at the meetings.

Next meeting
The next Mofference will take place Saturday, September 8 at 7 PM U.S. Eastern time. Please check the infobox on the right to see when this is in your timezone, and remember that daylight savings time may be in effect in your area.

How to join the meeting
IRC: irc.freenode.net #wookieepedia

For a list of clients, see IRC. Wikia provides web access to our IRC channel at irc.wikia.com/starwars.

(Hint: You only get 16 characters in your IRC nickname.)

Agenda
Feel free to add to the agenda.
 * 1) IRC Policies – It seems we need some. Specific issues include:
 * 2) *Civility. Wookieepedia-style NPA rules may not work too well in IRC, even if we want them to. How then do we establish guidelines? Or do we?
 * 3) *Preventing Whining. Civility guidelines that are too strict may result in IRC devolving into preschool recess. (And don't give me that shocked look. We all know there are lots and lots of idiots about.)
 * 4) *Operator Privileges. Freenode doesn't want us to use them except when necessary. Some feel they're necessary so often that we ought to just keep people opped.
 * 5) *Boot Policy. Even if no other policies can be agreed upon, perhaps simply determining appropriate situations to boot someone (versus mute the channel, an option that could suffice for most disruptions IMO) and requiring operators to adhere to that might be enough. Some users feel this prohibits the opportunity to have fun with booting.  Gonk  ( Gonk! ) 22:54, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) **Some specific proposals here: User:Gonk/Mofference  Gonk  ( Gonk! ) 19:58, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Search icon quality guidelines. Imp has some in mind. - Sikon 06:18, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) *Y'know, there's still at least one search icon that won't load, and nobody's fixed it for months. Enochf 20:31, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) **And how will they work for the new skins? Especially the Anon skin? Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 19:13, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) Infobox images for video game characters: what is preferable, screenshots or artwork? - Sikon 06:18, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) Wikia's experimental phpBB forums: yay or no way? - Sikon 06:18, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) *Anybody got some links to existing Wikia phpBB forums, so we can assess them before TEH MROFFRERFENCE?  Gonk  ( Gonk! ) 22:42, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 13) **Inside Wikia has some. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 22:47, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) Print Wookieepedia. - Sikon 08:08, 29 August 2007 (UTC)\
 * 15) *Not this again...  StarNeptune Talk to me! 07:59, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) Article assessment. ( I think we should have overall asessment (that can be built into the Talkheader template), and we should have WookieeProject assessment.) - Sikon 08:08, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 17) Suggestion: the "did you know" feature would be much more interesting and helpful if it did not adhere to the "only new articles" rule acquired from Wikipedia. There are plenty of fascinating things from old articles that could be used to draw mainstream attention. I say change! Change now! Enochf 21:34, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) *I agree with this. Master Aban Fiolli (Alpheridies University ComNet) [[Image:NewRepublic.png|25px]] 21:33, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 19) **I'm not so sure I agree with this. What else is going to draw someone to a new article? And what kind of guidelines would be enforced? Who would keep tabs on it? However, on the flip side, there are some interesting facts (Conan Motti, Orman Tagge, and others' sideburns) that would be nice to see in the "Did You Know" section. Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 19:13, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) 3RR/edit war policy - Some users continuously walk the line, engaging in "cold" edit warring and similar tactics for avoiding official rebuke. In some cases, edit summaries indicate the lack of civility and respect involved. Adherence to the letter of the law leads to some users feeling outnumbered and alienated. Perhaps a more case-by-case approach would be helpful. - Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 06:01, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 21) *Yes, this needs to be discussed and clarified since there are an alarming number of users who abuse the current policy and revert edits just enough so they don't get blocked; or they revert the edit in question while making general blanket edits hoping it will not be recognized. Graestan raises some interesting points. Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:14, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 22) Is there some way to make it so that your edits will not be saved until you add an edit summary? That would be nice.  TheCoolestDude 15:34, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 23) *Eh? I beg to differ. That'd just be annoying. -- [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|40px]] dmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 15:38, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 24) **I think that on preferences, you can change it so you're prompted if you press the save button without typing in a summary, though I haven't felt the desire to try it out. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:15, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 25) ***I've tried it. I think it gets to be a hassle after a while. If I forgot, a popup notice ensued. Master Aban Fiolli (Alpheridies University ComNet) [[Image:NewRepublic.png|25px]] 21:33, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 26) Forum:Single issue voters: I liked the theory, didn't like the number imposed, as it's prevented several people from voting on things. Also, I'd prefer a more concrete definition of what votes it has jurisdiction over, as well as an actual voting policy instead of a closed thread. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 14:32, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 27) Blocking policy issues: If a user adds fanon and gets a 1 day block, then has good behavior, then three months later breaks WP:NPA, is it a second or first offense for the NPA? Bear in mind time elapsed and the separate categories of offenses. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 14:35, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 28) I have noticed that the disputes on the A'Sharad Hett talk page have not been resolved, so the recent events that have occured can not be added to the article. It would help if we could resolve this dispute at this mofference. Thrallgor
 * 29) A Consolidated Timeline, damnit. Thefourdotelipsis 01:34, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 30) The New Wookiee-Cast. A variety of subtopics shall ensue. Thefourdotelipsis 07:34, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 31) I'll propose a new policy regarding trivia and trivia sections. --Imperialles 21:02, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 32) AutoWikiBrowser -- is it really a good idea? Havac 03:28, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 33) WP:NOR, and the dangers of copying policy straight from Wikipedia. Havac 17:53, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 34) The use of boxes (as evidenced in this example). Too cluttered? How does it not break the "No Quotes in Prose" thing? Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 19:13, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 35) Removing weasel words from our American English policy.  Gonk  ( Gonk! ) 19:58, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 36) Images next to other images and infoboxes - "It's ticking me off something terrible!" Thefourdotelipsis 09:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 37) Posting images on other users' User Talk pages: grounds for insta-perma-mega-ban?  Gonk  ( Gonk! ) 21:19, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 38) Links in articles: one time only vs. actually helping the reader find information. -- Ozzel 21:50, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Attendance

 * 1) I would like to attend the Mofference.--Goodwood 21:33, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I, too, wish to attend the Mofference. Jedipilot94 [[Image:fordocw.jpg|25px]] (*Fo-Shizzle*)  00:24, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) I will see if I can attend. User:Kilson
 * 2) I shall attend, as well. - Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 06:01, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Gonk.  Gonk  ( Gonk! ) 13:23, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) I will most likely attend. --Jedimca0(Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 16:02, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Should be able to attend, unless everything goes wrong that day. --  Riffsyphon  1024 04:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) I will also most likely attend--Thrallgor
 * 7) I would like to attend and hopefully can attend the Mofference. Darth Plagueis 21:59, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) Havac 01:49, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) Count me there. Carlitos Moff 20:58, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) LtNOWIS 05:16, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) I'll probably be there Moff Disra 15:02, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) It's a bit late but I will be there George Skywalker 11:42, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 13) Thefourdotelipsis 09:56, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) Wait a sec, I had my Saturdays mixed up. I should be able to make it. --School of Thrawn 101 10:16, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 15) I'm off work and home by that time, so I plan to be present ... assuming nothing comes up btwn now and then (as has happened every other time). - JMAS 21:41, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) Should be there. -- Ozzel 21:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Apologies

 * 1) Working.  StarNeptune Talk to me! 07:59, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Sorry, May Be Busy. Michaeldsuarez 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) I'm just a Wiki-laywer, not a Moff. DarthMRN 19:04, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Got plans. Always have plans on Friday. Sigh. Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 19:13, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Comments
One of these days, I'm going to actually have time to attend a Mofference. Oh well, I'll enjoy my time in Austin, anyway. --School of Thrawn 101 04:25, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I cannot guarantee that I will be able to attend. I am going to try, but it might be close. I would love to, however. Master Aban Fiolli (Alpheridies University ComNet) 21:33, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Meeting transcripts

 * January 7, 2006
 * January 16, 2006
 * February 2, 2006
 * February 28, 2006
 * 1) April 16, 2006
 * May 14, 2006
 * 1) August 19, 2006
 * 2) November 10, 2006 (Text) (PDF)
 * 3) December 8, 2006 (Text) (PDF)
 * 4) February 23, 2007 (Text) (PDF)
 * 5) June 2, 2007 (Log missing)