Talk:Obi-Wan Kenobi/Legends

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New main image
I hate to start up another one of these, but there's a good new image I propose we use. I first saw this pic on StarWars.com yeas ago, but it was very small, and I've always hoped to find a bigger one. Well today, they posted a new article on Obi-Wan with a nice big version of this pic, and I think it would make a great main image. Nice headshot & it's not a fake colorization like the current one. Thoughts? -- Ozzel 06:43, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Agree. I've actually been searching for this exact photo, but could never find a good quality one. If no one issues an objection, I'd support it being replaced. QuentinGeorge 07:24, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. As a bonus, it nicely matches the infobox colour. QuentinGeorge 07:27, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Good find. I've also been looking for that. So makes three. But can we just tone down the background just a bit. Not much. And now that it's been changed, I can finally say that the other one was fan-edited in a major way. It was originally black and white until I got done with it...funny how nobody noticed. ;) -- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|20px]] Talk 19:22, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, people noticed, just not the ones who'd raise a fuss. Anyway, I'm pretty content with the background on this one. Like QG said, it matches the infobox. -- Ozzel 04:04, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I think that's a fabulous image for the infobox. - JMAS 04:30, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Cel Shaded Picture
I was just wondering, in the section Powers and abilities, there is a picture of younger Obi Wan (Ewan McGreggor years) and its almost cel shaded. I was just wondering where this picture comes from?
 * You mean this one? It's from NEGtC (New Essential Guide to Characters). 16:55, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Age Issues
OK, my buddy Obi-Wan looked great, fit, and awesome in EP3. What, a couple decades pass and suddenly he looks like a bum in the back alleys of New York. What happened? He even stated, "So uncivilized", about Greivous, yet he reverts to primitive stages. Memory loss? Hair growth? Not much I expected from so short of time! Can someone please help? DarthMalevlent 23:13, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It's called aging. We all do it. Just look in the mirror. It's happening right before your eyes. -- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|20px]] Talk 23:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Ha ha, funny. This isn't just aging, OK? In about 20 years, my dad only changed in facial hair issues. Poor Obi lost his hair color, got a bad reputation, and everything that happens when you sit alone in a homestead watching a boy complain about how bad his life is. DarthMalevlent 00:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I was being serious. I was not giving you something to laugh at. Your father is not the prime human specimen especially if you are the product of his seed. Everyone ages differently. And you have to consider the fact that he is sitting on a burning rock in space. Such conditions increase appearance in age.-- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|20px]] Talk 00:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Via technicality, my question isn't answered. Is there a backstory of exactly why he let himself go? I mean, as stated, he was in excellent shape in EP3, then he lost it all. Surely there was a backstory. DarthMalevlent 23:13, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Who says he wasn't in excellent shape? Sure he couldn't do all that jumping crap that the Prequels jam down our throat but he certaintly was in excellent shape for someone his age. There is no backstory. This is what happens when people get old. Stop being such a damn idiot. -- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|20px]] Talk 23:24, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Wow, Redemption, you've ruined a running streak. Never before had a fellow Wookieepedian been so rude until you. You ought to get a medal. Did you sue the neighbor who asked whether the apple from his yard that fell into your yard was still his? DarthMalevlent 23:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes. I deserve a medal. Now are you done being an idiot or can we both get on with our lives? -- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|20px]] Talk 23:26, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * DarthMalevlent; do us a favour and stop bing such a sarcastic twit. Obi-Wan is thiry-eight years old in Ep III, he's fifty-seven in Ep IV. That's a fair gap for someone to get older in. [[Image:DarthAb.gif|Jasca Ducato]] Sith Council Sith Campaign 14:20, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * This factor is out of the matter. This post was deleted, and someone brought it back up. Whoever did should not have, for it creates more of a hassle for those that don't care for it. I learned my lesson. Live with your satisfaction. DarthMalevlent 23:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Disappearance
In the article it says this:

Kenobi let down his guard and concentrated for a moment, vanishing to the spiritual plane; his body disappearing entirely just as Vader's lightsaber, instead of severing his body, passed through his empty robe.

Which would mean he disappeared before Vader struck him and he wasn't actually killed by Vader at all. However, the article also uses the quote "If you strike me down..." which suggests Kenobi was killed by Vader's saber and then his body vanished straight away, leaving only his cloak.

For example, the official site says this in its Obi-Wan entry:

''As a diversionary tactic to help the others escape, Kenobi sacrificed himself to Vader. The Dark Lord struck the Jedi down, and Kenobi became one with the Force. He left behind no body, just empty robes and his own Jedi weapon.''

http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/obiwankenobi/

Also, the script says:

''Vader brings his sword down, cutting old Ben in half. Ben's cloak falls to the floor in two parts, but Ben is not in it.''

And the novelisation says:

''It struck home, cutting the old man cleanly in half. There was a brief flash as Kenobi's cloak fluttered to the deck in two neat sections. But Ben Kenobi was not in it.''

Captain Yossarian 21:24, 22 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I read somewhere that Vader took the lightsaber as his possession on how he had "finally defeated the Jedi". I read elsewhere that his lightsaber was obtained by Ben Skywalker. Just bringing this up. Also, I'd take the Wookieepedia answer rather than the databank, as in the old scripts of Star Wars, it describes Obi-Wan vanishing, becoming one with the Force before Vader had struck him. Even in the movie, it takes Vader another second to cut before Obi-Wan is gone. Either it's the after-effect of old movie-making or the true meaning. DarthMalevlent 23:32, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Time of Obi-Wan's rise to Mastery

 * so without a doubt Obi-Wan was made a Jedi Master and appointed to the Jedi Council during the Clone Wars, but does anyone exactly know when? In the Clone Wars series Obi-Wan is shown on the council arguing for anakin's ascension to knighthood, but it seems strange, at least to me, that Obi-Wan would have been given a mastership, and a seat on the council at the same time, without completing the training of his current padawan, Anakin.  So can anyone shed more light on this?
 * Kenobi is made a master after Anakin reaches Knighthood in the events of Jedi Trial. He receives a seat on the council afterward. QuentinGeorge 02:39, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * ok thanks
 * Well, except that Anakin never took the trials. --192.251.125.85 08:46, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Obi-Wan look-alike

 * In Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords, one of the male character models looks distinctively like a young Obi-Wan with a beard. I haven’t got an image, though most people who have played KOTOR II should know what I mean. Do you think that maybe this deserves a mention in the trivia section? Nacen 15:32, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * No. The only similarities are that it's a white guy with a brown beard. We might as well mention every other brown-haired bearded guy in that case...-- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|20px]] Talk 18:08, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Name
Why is he Called "Crazy Old Hermit"? Why can't it just be "Obi-Wan Kenobi"?


 * Happy April Fools day. - Milo Fett [Comlink] 02:07, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Outraged!
This is completely not funny. Why has the article been renamed Crazy Old Hermit. I swear this April Fool's thing has gone too far! Ganko 17:10, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Ganko, are you the same person who went to the Discussion on the main page and complained? It was just a little April Fools' Day joke, nothing more. In case you haven't noticed, everything has been changed back. TheNewDarthMalevlent ( The Sith shall rise to power!) |undefined 00:22, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Qui-Gon Jinn or Yoda, which one is Obi-Wan's master?
Okay, In empire strikes back Obi says "You will go to Yoda the jedi master who taught me". But in Phantom menace Obi-Wan calls Qui-Gon "master". Can someone explain this?--Windu223 13:38, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * How many teachers did you have at school? QuentinGeorge 13:40, 7 April 2007 (UTC)