Talk:Jedi High Council/Legends

Members
Why have the greatest masters of the republic be put in terms I know it brings a balance, but why not have everyone a lifetime member.

Anakin vs. Even Piell
It seems like Anakin replaced Even Piell in the council, however, I thought when Anakin made his way into the council, he didn't really replace anyone, he was just added to the council. So what was wrong with Even Piell? --Darthless 09:22, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Whats the difference between The High Jedi Council and the jedi council.BobafettH23 23:25, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * "Jedi Council" is technically a loose term for all councils held by Jedi, though in the films, "Jedi Council" is commonly used to refer to the "Jedi High Council" - Kwenn 19:09, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

(Depa Billaba)-(Sifo-Dyas)-(Yaddle) connection
Just commenting on the recent box edits that have Depa Billaba replacing Sifo-Dyas. We know that Sifo-Dyas was on the council at some point before Episode 1, so it makes sense that one of the Jedi on the council during the film are acting as Sifo-Dyas' replacement. And I understand the reasoning for speculating that Depa would be that replacement seeing as her age would be very young at that point, but the likely replacement for Sifo-Dyas is Yaddle, not Depa. First, Depa is on the council as of 44 BBY. There's no reason to assume that it's an error. I know that Anakin is the youngest Jedi on the Council ever at 22, but there's no reason that Depa couldn't be at least 23 as of 44 BBY. What we know: What we don't know: Now back to what I originally said about Yaddle being a more likely replacement. Yaddle is not shown during the Stark Hyperspace War comic. All the other Jedi who are on the council during Episode I (excluding Plo Koon and Ki-adi Mundi who are replaced by Tyvokka and Micah Giett respectfully) are all there, but not Yaddle. In fact, no twelfth Jedi is shown. Is this intentional? Maybe not, maybe they just forgot to add Yaddle. However, in Yaddle's Tale: The One Below all the council members are the same as in Episode I, except for Micah Giett who's obviously supposed to show that Ki hasn't joined the council yet. I know that the framing story isn't necessarily canon, but once again, does it have to be? Once again, what we know about Yaddle: The only problem with this framing story being in-canon is that some people find it odd that Rancisis, her padawan, would be on the council before her. Though why is this the case? It's likely that Obi-Wan would have been on the council before Qui-Gon ever would have been because of concerns about Jinn's behavior. I think that Yaddle's less than orthodox promotion to Jedi Master would have been more than enough to make it plausible that an apprentice of her's could find themselves on the council before her. The way I see it, with the evidence we have now, is that Yaddle is the replacement for Sifo-Dyas. It doesn't make sense for Depa to be the replacement because she was on the council at 44 BBY, which is quite a bit longer than "almost ten years ago" as of 22 BBY. If the framing story of The One Below is held to be canon, then it had to have taken place after 44 BBY, after Tyvokka's death, and at least before 33 BBY during the Yinchorri Uprising where Yaddle appears in Jedi Council: Acts of War. This also almost coincides perfectly with the statement "almost ten years ago" if Yaddle replaced Sifo-Dyas right before the Yinchorri Uprising which would make "almost ten years ago"->11 years. Sorry for rambling on like this, but I think there is enough canon evidence to support Yaddle being the replacement for Sifo-Dyas, and no reason to need a ret-con. Cull Tremayne 23:44, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) Mace was born 72 BBY.
 * 2) Mace saved Depa from pirates when she was 6 months old.
 * 3) Depa trained under Mace as his Padawan.
 * 4) Depa was on the Jedi Council as of 44 BBY.
 * 1) How old Mace was when he saved her.
 * 2) At what point was Depa accepted as Mace's Padawan. Remember Quinlan Vos saved his Padawan from a Wampa attack before he ever took her as his apprentice. Was he five years old when he did it? Maybe not, but it's something to consider.
 * 1) She's not seen on the council during the Stark Hyperspace War, so no evidence that she's on the council as of 44 BBY.
 * 2) She trained Oppo Rancisis, who is on the Council as of 44 BBY.
 * 3) In  Yaddle's Tale: The One Below, she is reviewed as a candidate by the same council members that appear in Episode I (excluding Ki). Not necessarily canon.
 * The framing story for Yaddle's Tale is definitely non-canon. It has been confirmed by Leland Chee, and Randy Stradley amongst others. The reason is that the story takes places hundreds of years BBY, before any of those characters are even born. The New Essential Guide to Characters explicitly says that Rancisis did not join the Council until after 44 BBY. QuentinGeorge 01:13, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I know that. I am questioning as to why that must be. Could you quote the passage in NEGtC? Where is it? Rancisis is shown in SHW. Cull Tremayne 10:00, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Additionally, it is utterly ridiculous for youngling Mace Windu to rescue someone at the age of 5. For one, he's not supposed to be out of the temple on missions until he's a teenaged padawan. Secondly, all we see in the SHW TPB is an unnamed Chalactan council member. She's not identified as Depa anywhere, and she appears to be much older than 23. If anything, a far easier retcon is to have that character be Sar Labooda or another Chalactan Jedi. There is no sensible way to reconcile the "Depa" appearance in SHW with her character background without going into kiddy Windu hero silliness. QuentinGeorge 01:20, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I still say it's possible however unlikely, that he could have had a role (there's no mention as to how major a role it was) in saving her from pirates. Cull Tremayne 10:00, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Here's an even easier solution: There is not a single frame where we see "Depa" seated with the rest of the council. It's likely that she's merely there with her master Windu, like A'Sharad Hett is with Ki-Adi-Mundi in the The Hunt for Aurra Sing. QuentinGeorge 01:24, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Then why is she not standing by his side when Windu initially talks to Saldith? Additionally, why is Depa in the meditative circle then? I mean Saldith is not in the circle, and he's at least a Jedi Knight. Why would Depa, if she's just a mere padawan take part in something that a Jedi Knight cannot? Cull Tremayne 10:00, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Exterior chamber

 * In some hots of the chamber, you can see an antichamber through the doorway. Is this an error because the spires structure does not allow this? Purpilia 00:59, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Members in 36 BBY
I was wondering, does anyone know who was on the council in 36 BBY? 8311-XHT 01:40, 11 November 2006 (UTC)