Talk:Darth Zannah

Dispute over identity

 * I would like sources provided to prove to KFanII that the two are not identical, so that we may end this dispute quickly and quietly. -- Riffsyphon1024 04:37, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * As can be seen in this article, Zannah is female. As can be seen in Darth Andeddu's sole appearance (in Star Wars: Republic) - he is male. QuentinGeorge 04:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC

KFanII, for the last time. Zannah is NOT Darth Andeddu. QuentinGeorge 04:21, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

If they're not the same, what is Zannah's Sith name? I fyou can say this, this arguement will be over and we'll put that as an AKA and things like that. Alright? (Darth Andeddu msut have been Zannah's apprentice...) KFan II 15:17, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Zannah's Sith name is not known. As in, it's not stated in any official sources. --Imperialles 15:26, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * And there's no reason to think Darth Andeddu must have been her apprentice. For one, the only depiction has him dressed in the clothes of a Sith Lord from the time of Naga Sadow. In fact, Andeddu may have preceeded Revan. QuentinGeorge 21:12, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Darth Andeddu succeeded Darth Zannah. The only way you can succeed a Sith Lord in Darth Bane's New Order thing is to be an apprentice. The weird clothes that he chose must have been his way to make people fear him, or he might just have thought he should keep old traditions alive. The latter is probably something a Sith Lord would do, like Darth Maul tatooing his body. KFan II 13:24, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Umm... and exactly why are you certain that he succeeded Zannah? For all I know, there is no mention of when he lived. --Imperialles 13:34, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Because obviously there is no mention of anyone between Zannah Andeddu (get it? "And"-eddu.), I mean Zannah and Andeddu. You can assume that Zannah trained Andeddu because - well - there's noone between the two. And, as someone said on Sidious/Palpatine/Emperor's talkpage, Sith live long. KFan II 16:53, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Umm... and why are you so sure he lived in Zannah's lifetime at all? It's far more likely that he was of the Sith Empire, judging from his clothes, plus the fact that he was referred to as 'ancient'. --Imperialles 16:56, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * As far as I know, Bane's Sith weren't entombed on Korriban, either. --Fade 17:31, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Fanon Ahoy!
Let's see:
 * Darth Andeddu succeeded Darth Zannah.
 * Answer: Stated nowhere. Pure Fanon. Darth Andeddu could just as easily be the first Dark Lord of the Sith, and the first Darth. (who Revan ultimately takes the name of)
 * The only way you can succeed a Sith Lord in Darth Bane's New Order thing is to be an apprentice.
 * Answer: Correct, but irrelevant: see point 1
 * The weird clothes that he chose must have been his way to make people fear him, or he might just have thought he should keep old traditions alive.
 * Giant leap of faith. Stated nowhere. Pure fanon.
 * What we DO know:
 * Darth Andeddu was a Sith Lord.
 * He created a holocron.
 * He was entombed on Korriban.
 * THAT'S IT! Anything else if fanboy speculation QuentinGeorge 06:10, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * We also know that Andeddu had a lightsaber correct? That means he could not have been part of the Naga Sadow Sith Empire, as he would have used the customary Sith Sword. So he has to be either part of Darth Ruin's line, or Darth Bane's line, wearing the Ancient Sith clothes as a sort of tribute. Cull Tremayne 05:30, 16 Oct 2005
 * I wouldn't be so sure of that. See the discussion on Tulak Hord... QuentinGeorge 05:55, 17 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Interesting, but the Red Sith doesn't seem to be wearing the traditional Sith Garb. In such a long lived Empire, I doubt that style of clothing had been around for 20,000 years. Even if early Sith had access to lightsabers, that probably would have been done away with and replaced with Sith Swords by the time of such clothing. But that does make it all the more confusing Cull Tremayne 07:30, 17 Oct 2005
 * That's why the current theory is that Darth Andeddu was actually one of the first Dark Lords of the Sith (either Mr Red himself, or Red's successor). QuentinGeorge 06:12, 18 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * In addition to the fact he was entombed on Korriban, which none of the Dark Lords past Freedon Nadd could claim. QuentinGeorge 07:08, 18 Oct 2005 (UTC)

The name of Zannah as a Sith
The latest installment of the Dark Forces Saga says that:

''Many have sought the Valley of the Jedi, but few have found it. One was Lord Hoth's former apprentice Johun Othone, who set up vain shrines in the valley in honor of his beloved master. Another was the Sith Lord Darth Zannah, who returned to the valley years after abandoning her brother there during the Battle of Ruusan and engaged her sibling in a final deadly confrontation.'' QuentinGeorge 06:13, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I think this conclusively solves the matter. Once this is unlocked, I'll add the info. QuentinGeorge 06:13, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Darth

 * Shouldn't this be at just Zannah? I mean considering Revan and Malak's articles don't have Darth in the title. MarcK 08:51, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * But they spent a long time of their life known by those names (while Jedi). Zannah was known almost *exclusively* as "Rain" until the Battle of Ruusan, until she went by "Zannah" for a very short period before becoming Darth Bane's first apprentice. QuentinGeorge 09:06, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Final Confrantation

 * is there a source to the information stating the final duel between Darovit and Darth Zannah?-user:remoh
 * Dark Forces Saga by Abel Pena. - QuentinGeorge
 * So is she killed in the duel or what? What's the outcome? -- Cato Neimoidia 01:03, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Not stated. QuentinGeorge 06:02, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
 * It's been implied that she wins, but no official outcome has been stated
 * This is driving me crazy! I swear I remember a comic where they have a final confrontation on Ruusan years after the Battle.  Did I dream this?  I can't find it anywhere! Lonnyd 19:45, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, on the page for Darovit, it states that she wins the duel. Dunno if this helps? User:Asuryan
 * Unfortunately, that's a mistake. Dark Forces Saga is the only source for this duel. It is likely that Darovit is killed, but there's no proof either way - \\Captain Kwenn// &mdash; Ahoy! 17:42, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * There is now! In the Epi. 1 novel it does say that Bane's apprentice did become a master and did take on an apprentice. Darth Byss 22:26, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Grievous's possesion

 * Did Grievous ever actually use her lightsaber in combat?

Def'n: Zannah?
Can anybody think of a possible translation for the name of Zannah? The trick to the line of Darth Bane is that each name is relevant to his role in Sith History.

i.e. Sidious (insidious) - Traitor - Palpatine betrayed not only his own master but the entire Galactic Republic

Vader (father) - The Father of the one responsible for his own return and destruction

Vectivus (vector {medical term}) - a being uninfected by a toxin (i.e. the Dark Side) despite enduring exposure

you get what I mean?

I hope that the Darth Bane novel can answer all of our questions.

Prometheus 16:50, 28 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually, Vader's name comes from invader. Remember that Darth Vader being Luke's father was an idea that came in late production of ESB, so Lucas can't have named him based on the Dutch word of father. - TopAce 16:55, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Zannah doesn't mean anything - it's her actual real name. QuentinGeorge 20:46, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * And we still haven't actually gotten Zannah's Sith name. For all we know, she went by "Darth Rain." Lonnyd 21:34, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, we have, as stated in the article - \\Captain Kwenn// &mdash; Ahoy! 21:41, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I saw the post about it further up after posting that, but didn't want to delete my comment or something. Lonnyd 02:28, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

picture
is there a better picture for her than that one on the main page? she looks like a kid not some dangerous sith 72.230.40.84 20:32, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * We've only seen her as a child. QuentinGeorge 20:45, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

oh ok never read the stuff she appeard on and this is the same person, just forgot to log on 20:47, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Groode hdoge 20:47, 3 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah it would be interesting to see her as an adult... Maybe a femme fatale? Ahhh... wishful thinking. DAWUSS 02:01, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Gender specific
Shouldn't the article identify her as a dark lady of the sith,not dark lord,after the fashion of Lumiya ? Sochwa 07:50, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
 * No. Dark Lord of the Sith is a unisex title, and Lumiya is the only known Dark Lady. - Lord Hydronium 08:36, 13 December 2006 (UTC)