Talk:Octuptarra magna tri-droid

"On Mygeeto, tri-droids were used against Jedi master Ki-Adi-Mundi´s forces, blowing up several tanks. ... On Coruscant, a tri-droid tried to kill master Windu with it´s beam weapon, but he reflected it back at the droid." Are we going to list every time a Stormtrooper shot at someone too? --SparqMan 13:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * These were just the most famous (and only) moments of the tri-droid's appearance. No need to get snarky. VT-16 10:03, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Octupurra
Wasnt it called Octapurra Droid or something?
 * They were two different types of droid. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 20:37, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Tri-Droids on Coruscant in Clone Wars?
Aren't those Octuptarra droids, Tri-Droids shoot rockets not lazer beams like the Octuptarra Droid.--Rune Haako 01:13, 13 February 2006 (UTC) Nevermind.--Rune Haako 19:16, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Considering the fact that a) the height is the only difference and b) the mirco-series has gotten things wrong, it could be either one. Admiral J. Nebulax 21:19, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, then... Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 20:21, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't categorically say its gotten things wrong (apart from some possible aspects of Palpatine's kidnapping). Could be they're a third type of tri-droid, shooting red beam weapons. VT-16 12:49, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Or perhaps the tri-droid uses different types of lasers? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 12:50, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Nope, only says it used ordnance launchers, no beam weapons. It's probably a third type, then. And I notice the Databank does differentiate between the octuptarra and tri-droid, the latter being an upscaled version of the former. VT-16 12:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * What would we call this third type then, and would we have it as a separate article? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 13:02, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe just a subsection, like with the CW trifighter. VT-16 14:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Works for me. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 14:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Names
The Wiki is currently mistaken. The terms "octuptarra droid" and "tri-droid" are synonyms. Either term can be used for the giant or small version. Go read the actual text of the DB entries. The distinction of name in DB titles is simply to make things easier. "An example of the Techno Union's modular, scalable manufacturing techniques, enormous versions of the octuptarra model are unleashed on the battlefield as combat artillery, but the battle droid-sized antipersonnel model trades terrorizing scale for agility." Note that this quote refers to the big ones as "octuptarra droids" just as the small ones are so-called. JustinGann 04:38, 6 April 2006 (PDT)
 * "The tri-droids are gigantic versions of the smaller anti-infantry octuptarra droids"; octuptarra are anti-infantry, tri-droids are anti-artillery. They are two different variants, thus we use the two different names to identify them - Kwenn 12:28, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Plus, the databank has screwed up before; this is yet another mistake. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:24, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Chronicles: Prequels confirms that octuptarra and tri-droid are interchangeable names used for both sizes.JustinGann 20:12, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Then why the hell are there two names? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:04, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I thought even the official databank separated the two. Octuptarra was the small models and tri-droids the big ones. VT-16 11:37, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Even if they are interchangeable names, the fact remains that there are two distinct models; small anti-infantry and large anti-artillery. Thus, we, as the Databank does, should differentiate the two with the provided names - Kwenn 12:05, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:25, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Adding to this, are the giant crab droids seen in SW:CW. They were mentiond as being different from the smaller "muckrackers" as well, similar to the tri-droids. We should have a pic and separate profile on them, as well. VT-16 12:51, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Perhaps at giant crab droid? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 12:53, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * No, they say they were all variants of the same model. Maybe that name, plus (mobile armor) next to it? VT-16 12:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, now that I think about it, there were apparently large and small crab droids, and the only real difference was the size and the bubble wort projectors on the larger version. How about a section in crab droid instead? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 13:02, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Fine with me. VT-16 14:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 14:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * New Essential Guide to Droids confirmed what I said before, which was in the Databank, that Octuptarra and Tri-droid are interchangeable terms which can be applied to any size variety, either the anti-personnel or anti-vehicle model.JustinGann 21:19, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh well. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 21:24, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I think the different models of Tri-droids are similar enough to merge into one article. &mdash; Aiddat (Holonet) (Contribs Log) [[Image:NewRepublic.png|20px]] 19:19, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I disagree. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:12, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
 * But the NEGD has a picture of what looks like the big version, and calls them Octuptarra combat tri-droids. And we moved Octuptarra droids to that name even though the picture showed these droids. If they aren't the same, then this should be moved to Octuptarra combat tri-droid instead of the small version. But that's unlikely that one would be called an Octuptarra combat tri-droid and the other would just be called an Octuptarra droid. &mdash; Aiddat (Holonet) (Contribs Log) [[Image:NewRepublic.png|20px]] 11:21, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, TNEGtD could have made an error. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:25, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, or the databank could have been... well the databank doesn't exactly have a Wookieepedia way of naming and merging subjects. Like the article on Piett is called Admiral Piett. If they showed giant crab droids in the movie, then they would also probably have seperate articles for them. Let's make a forum or something about it. &mdash; Aiddat (Holonet) (Contribs Log) [[Image:NewRepublic.png|20px]] 11:30, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * But compare the two versions first: Do they look identical? I don't think so. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:10, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * But still, both the DB and the NEGD state there are two different variants, so we may as well just keep the pages as they are; even if the names are interchangeable, we still need to name either variant, and these names have been used to correspond with the DB's designations - \\Captain Kwenn// &mdash; Ahoy! 21:35, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I forget who said this, but oh well: "For as similar two things are, they can be different in the eyes of the public." In this case, "the public" is the Databank. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 21:39, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Main infobox image
Jack, the only problem with the NEGVV picture in the infobox is that it ISN'T a Tri-droid. It is an Octuptarra droid. Hence, the other image stays because it is an actual Tri-droid. - JMAS 19:58, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * No, they are the same droid. Regardless of what the file name says, they are the same. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:00, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * No, actually, they are not. Do not change it back. - JMAS 20:01, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Put the pictures side-by-side. They are the same. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:02, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll draw your attention to your own comments above under the heading Octuptarra. Thank you. Case closed. The Tri-droid is a larger droid than the Octuptarra. Would an Admin please settle this. I'll abide by what their decision is. - JMAS 20:06, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * JMAS, look at both pictures. Regardless of what I said above, those images show the exact same droid in the exact position. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:07, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Looks to me more like they have very similar droids in similar positions. It seems like "Octuptarra droid" and "tri-droid" are basically synonyms, so either picture could represent the subject of this article.  However, as the version from Star Wars Chronicles: The Prequels has a Human next to it for scale, it's slightly more informative, and therefore preferable in my eyes. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 20:26, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, in design, they look almost identical. But the Tri-droid is huge, designed to take out vehicles such as the UT-AT. The Octuptarra was a smaller version mean to take out infantry soldiers. - JMAS 20:29, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey, well, Chewbacca and Tarfful look pretty similar, right? One's only a bit bigger than the other, so let's treat them as one person! - \\Captain Kwenn// &mdash; Ahoy! 20:35, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, I'm willing to concede on this one, based soley on the fact of the "feet" of each of the two droids. However, the SW.com databank entry is grossly in error then claiming that the Tri-droid is only 3.7 meters tall, when the Octuptarra is is 3.6 meters tall. Yet the Tri-droid is described as being gigantic in comparison. - JMAS 21:13, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * They are the same droid. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:30, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Same model, diffrent size, exact same "blueprint", scaleable factories, not an opinion, end of story.--ShadowTrooper 02:30, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Those droids are the same. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 13:36, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Jack, I agree with you that on the NEGVV image, it was an Octuptarra. But go look at the databank entries for them both. They are designed from the same blueprint, but the Tri-droid is built on a much larger scale. And as such, they had to alter the weapons configurement, the "foot" configurement, etc. So, yes, they are related. They are cousins, if you will, to each other, siblings even. They are not twins. - JMAS 13:48, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) The Databank's been wrong before. 2) The TNEGtD image is a tri-droid, just like the one in the current main picture. And I'm completely aware that the tri-droid and Octuptarra combat tri-droid are related. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 13:53, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I meant to say the NEGVV image was not the Octuptarra. And I realize the databank is incorrect sometimes. However, the only thing wrong with the databank entry in this case is the size of the Tri-droid being only 3.7 meters. Clearly, the tri-droid is much larger than the Octuptarra, as shown by the Chronicles image that I uploaded and put in the Tri-droid article, which shows a Clone trooper next to it for size comparison. - JMAS 14:10, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, so now we're on the same side here. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 14:10, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

3.7 meters? Really?
Inigo Montoya 01:22, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * If sources say so, yes. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 12:17, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * You don't find that hard to swallow, though? At all? Look at the diagram, it's more like 30+ meters. Inigo Montoya 02:04, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Wow, that picture definitely does not show 3.7 meters. What's the source on the number?  Could it be referring to a different model or something? - Lord Hydronium 02:15, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The source is the Databank. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 11:57, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Hm, according to the Databank, "The tri-droids are gigantic versions of the smaller anti-infantry octuptarra droids," and they say the octuptarra droids are 3.6 meters. I think somebody screwed up. - Lord Hydronium 12:37, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the databank is clearly incorrect on this one. And there is nothing we can do until they change it. - JMAS 13:08, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Anyone who's seen ROTS know that those tri-droids are not 3.7 meters tall. In the establishing shots they tower over Republic UT-ATs and when shooting at them in the very next shot, has the rocket fly downwards in order to hit the UT-AT. And in both shots, the clone troopers are nothing but specks in comparison. VT-16 20:10, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Perhaps they forgot a zero. Maybe it's really 30.7 meters. Or it could be 37 meters. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 20:31, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It looks slightly smaller than an AT-AT. Going by Luke's ascent in ESB, the walker seems larger than this droid. But it's definitely not much shorter. VT-16 20:43, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I see. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 20:46, 23 February 2007 (UTC)