Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Jaina Solo (second nomination)


 * ''The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a featured article nomination that was successful. Please do not modify it.

Jaina Solo
Support Objections
 * 1) Jaina Solo ( Goddess Stuff ) [[Image:Jaina_sig.jpg|25px]] 13:39, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) --CountDooku13(Hyper-Communications Cartel)[[Image:Cislogo.png|20px]] 15:19, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) --MJPundefined 13:33, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) --User: Zinnos
 * 5) Adamwankenobi 23:33, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 6) Nice .  .  .  .  10:32, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 7) Impressive article for one of the principle females of Star Wars. Deserves a FA.  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 19:25, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 8) --ToRsO bOy 23:02, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 9) Cutch 02:49, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 10) Now that most of the typos are gone, I think it's ready to be featured Enochf 11:37, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 11) Nighthawk leader 07:00, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 12:44, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) Cull Tremayne 19:32, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) Wstonefi 14:46, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) Darth Abeonis Sith Council (Sith Campaign) 08:34, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) Joker1138 ( Mandalore ) [[Image:MandalorianSymbol.jpg|25px]]
 * 5)  Lord Oblivion Sith holocron[[Image:Oldsith.png|30px]] 04:16, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 6) --Argon Skywalker 09:38, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 7) Cutch 18:29, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) Darth Culator  (Talk)(Kills) 18:12, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 01:18, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) HappyTimeHarry 23:03, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 11)  Yoshi  626 [[Image:Yoshiegg.jpg|20px]] 08:19, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * 12)  Jwebb13 HoloNet [[Image:oldsith.jpg|40px]] 00:42, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * 13) User:Sarah22299 Sarah22299 16:56, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) Red XIV 04:16, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * 15) Cato Neimoidia 22:45, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) Jedinite 20:58, 5 March 2007   (UTC)
 * 17)  - breathesgelatin Talk 18:26, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 1)  - breathesgelatin Talk 18:26, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Rewrite the introduction. She's grown up now, therefore her introduction should be about her achievements rather than her parents and training. --Imp 15:47, 30 September 2006 (UTC)' '''Overridden by Inquisitorius - Inq:Jaina Solo 17:22, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The intro has been reworked. What do you think now?  - breathesgelatin Talk 05:48, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Need to work out the image issue, there are way too many near the end of the article where there is less text. Either more text needs to be added or some of the images need to be removed. Cull Tremayne 06:30, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I've played around with the pics, and I think it is now more balanced. --Eyrezer 10:53, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Lets hope it stays good with all the new info sure to come Jedi Dude 10:58, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Can we get a source for this image? I know it's from a card of some sort, but what card line, etc.
 * Nicely detailed...a little too nicely detailed though. The sections illustrating Jaina's youth and Jedi training could use a lot more cutback on the level of detail; we're summarizing a series of books, not describing certain chapters in individual novels.  An overload of subsections and some of them are rather unnecessary.  I'm also questioning the necessity of the disambuigation notice for the same reason why quotes from Wookieepdians were voted off from being featured QOTDs.  Otherwise, the article seems to be alright. &mdash;Mir  len  05:13, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, no offense, but that's crossing the line just a bit too much. I realize the Kwenn disambig (sort of) because it's a fairly obscure article, but Jaina Solo is a major character and a main character in the ongoing book series, no one is going to come here looking for the Wookieepedian and be confused that they came to the character. Seriously now. Cull Tremayne 06:36, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
 * This issue has been resolved.  - breathesgelatin Talk 05:48, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Can we get a "Romance" section like on her parents and uncle's article? Between Kyp, Jag and Zekk there is enough candidates. QuentinGeorge 08:09, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, besides a Romance section, I'm a bit surprised that Jaina has neither a "Personality and traits section," nor a BtS. I know we can write a personality and traits section pretty easily. As for the BTS, I'm not going to be a stickler on that one, just surprised there's not information there already--it seems like there would be something. It bugs me that Jaina is the twin who always gets shortchanged. Oh, and to summarize the still-standing objections: source that one image, get a Romances section, and get a personality and traits section. Has the objection about thinning out the overmuch detail been addressed?  - breathesgelatin Talk 05:48, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Breathes, I've contacted an author for permission to use some BTS from The Other Side of the Sky website, so hopefully we'll have some soon. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 22:15, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
 * In a reponse to Breathes's question, I don't think the thinning out unnecessary details has been addressed yet. &mdash;Mir  len  22:51, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I've looked at it and I really don't think there's too much unnecessary detail. If you look at articles like Luke Skywalker and Lando Calrissian, we are trying to give them more detail than they've previously had, IMHO. Can you cite some examples? Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 15:41, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I apologize for a late response. Reunion could use a little cut down of detail; there seems to be some detail there that I feel isn't notable.  Perhaps the first three paragraphs in Trip to the Jedi Praxeum, as well as Abduction and First Corellian Insurrection.  Caamas Document section is fine in terms of level of detail, but I can't help feel that it is not very important (and dare I say it? &mdash; unncessary, for it contributes little to the character and story arc).  However, I'll leave it alone for now, because I honestly don't care as to whether or not to include the Caamas Document on Wookieepedia.  The whole Jedi training's subsections could use some shearing as well as the Tempest information. (I'm not familiar with the roles Luke and Lando play outside the movies and NJO and on, so I couldn't comment much on that.  By unnecessary detail, I mean information that seems to be more of a page or chapter summary that a summary that encompasses a whole book: "Jacen ended up being knocked down by the carcass of one of the beasts as the last surviving battle hydra prepared to sting Luke with its venomous tail. The beast was thwarted by Jaina, who used her bare hands to hold it back by its wings. Cilghal then made sure that the creature would not be able to do any harm again by wringing its neck."  What I'm trying to say, is that most of the wording in the previously mentioned sections could be tightened and shortened and still serve the purpose of summarizing a book or series nicely. &mdash;Mir  len  05:25, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that's helpful. I'll try and cull some of the over-detailed minutiae soon, although I'll leave some background info- I feel a little bit is necessary to understand the actions of the character. I also plan on leaving the Caamas section alone, if that's okay with you. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 06:03, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I think I've done a decent job of clearing out some of the extraneous detail. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 17:24, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Many of the quotes need to be sourced. I did two, but I don't have time to hunt them all down. -- Darth Culator  (Talk)(Kills) 18:59, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * In line with the new rules, this article needs to cite its sources. QuentinGeorge 06:21, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Depending on what we decide our sourcing rules to be, Jaina is completely sourced, aside from intro and personality sections.
 * Needs a better introduction focusing less on her immediate family. --Imp 19:43, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Intro reworked. How about now? Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 02:44, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Much extraneous detail has been removed. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Audience Chamber ) 17:10, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Impressive job with the citations. :) I can see that a lot of extraneous detail has been removed, but to my eyes, there are still many left as well.  However, I would seek second opinion on this; I grew up with policies of Wikipedia in mind, so I may be biased in terms of how much detail should be included in articles outlining fictional characters' lives. &mdash;Mir  len  04:21, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Comments

'''Approved by Inquisitorius - Inq:Jaina Solo 17:28, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I like it, but there are not too many images at the top and they seem more jumbled up at the bottom. If you could add more images in and then, even out the frequency of image use throughout the article I will vote for it.--CountDooku13(Hyper-Communications Cartel)[[Image:Cislogo.png|20px]] 14:07, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Very good, I like it. CountDooku13(Hyper-Communications Cartel)[[Image:Cislogo.png|20px]] 15:19, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I think this article is very attractive and worthy t be a featured article. Zinnos
 * Image issue sorted out, so I'm just being nitpicky here, but the images from the YJK novels are out of order. Where they're placed right now (at least some of them), they don't relate to the history. Cull Tremayne 19:32, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I changed the Black Sun pic to one from those books. I think that was the only one out of order. --Eyrezer 00:26, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Only three sourceless quotes left. --Tinwe 17:26, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * All quotes seem to have sources now. --Tinwe 17:11, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not exactly certain how well the editing in the article relates to other articles, but... Isn't it a bit iffy? Grand Moff Rhell 02:12, 8 February 2007 (UTC)