User talk:Cylka

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SOTE
It's actually the SOTE comic, not the novel, if that's what you've been checking. I specified at the meeting but the Inq page didn't say. Sorry about that (but cages of some sort are definitely in there). -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 13:21, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, alright. Yeah, that makes sense. I suppose, if there were other similarly ambiguous sources that had some sort of cage in the Slave I in them, you could say something like "In blah blah blah, Slave I is depicted with cages, though it is unclear if these are force cages" or somesuch, but it's not exactly necessary. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 19:41, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Darth Malak GAN
Got your list, the only thing I found so far, (haven't had much chance to look at it) was this:

From JJM's blog on KotOR 31:
 * If you think Malak’s immigration experience recalls that of a certain Vito from Sicily, you’re onto something!

I'm taking a wild stab in the dark here and guess that he's refering to one of the Godfather movies, it should be added in the BTS, but since I'm not knowledgeable about those movies...I also took care of most of the short paragraphs, and combined some in the BTS section. I've got to go, I'll return tomorrow.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 16:58, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm working on Malak, think I got most of your objections as you posted on my talk page, working on the P&A section. I would appreciate your help with that, since I really don't know how to word the fact that he used Force Armor, other than that.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 15:52, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, also, I forgot. I'm working on the Leviathan part, as well.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 16:06, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, Cylka, how's everything going? I believe I took care of most, if not all, of your objections to Malak.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 21:33, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe I've taken care of all of your new objections, as you'll note on the nom page, I really don't know how I can rewrite the stuff about the Force Suppression power, since there isn't enough info on the said power so that I coulkd write it without it sounding like game mechanics.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 15:17, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

re: Article sourcing
Thanks Cylka, I didn't know that. Since you say it's OK to have the sourcing, I won't bother to remove it, but now that I know, I won't bother to put it in future articles with only one source. Cheers! DolukTalk 01:05, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Re:
It looks great Cylka, I'm going to archive the nom in a few minutes, so expect one of the cool, new message soon. :) DC 18:00, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

re: CSWE
No problem. What do you need me to look up? I won't be able to do it until I get home from work tonight, but I'm happy to help. DolukTalk 17:40, 19 February 2009 (UTC) Bek-Vulkar War: no entry for the conflict itself, but here's what it says about the Hidden Beks and the Black Vulkars:
 * Well, for starters I'll copy-paste what I got for Graestan:

Hidden Beks: "One of the smaller gangs on Taris that struggled to make a name for itself against the Black Vulkars four millenia before the Battle of Yavin."

Black Vulkars: "A swoop gang on Taris at the time of the Mandalorian Wars. They were rivals to the Hidden Beks."

Brejik: no entry.

Gadon Thek: no entry.

Revan: nothing at all that mentions the Beks, the Vulkars, or even swoop gangs, let alone the conflict between the gangs.

For the other entries you were looking for:

Lower City: no entry for the Lower City itself, but here's the relevant info from the entry on Taris: "Descending into the slums of the Lower City, the signs of urban decay became undeniable. Filth and refuse littered the streets, and burned-out vehicles and shattered windows served as stark reminders of the violent wars of the swoop gangs vying for control. Citizens of the Lower City struggled to survive amid the permacrete wasteland." It then goes on to talk about the Undercity, but there isn't anything else relevant to what you're looking for.

Swoop: the full entry is lengthy, so I won't re-type it all here, but there isn't a single thing relevant to the goings-on on Taris anyway (it doesn't even mention that swoops were supposedly invented there - although the Taris entry does say that).

Swoop gangs: again, absolutely nothing relevant to events on Taris in any way.

Swoop racing: nothing relevant to Taris.

Benno: no entry.

Zaerdra: no entry.

Kandon Ark: his entry is just under Kandon, and frankly I find it surprising that he has an entry at all, considering that Brejik (who is actually mentioned in Kandon's entry) doesn't: "A member of the Black Vulkars during the Jedi Civil War, he served as Brejik's right-hand man. After the Vulkars captured Jedi Knight Bastila Shan following the destruction of the Endar Spire, Kandon was asked to make sure she didn't escape. He was unprepared for the arrival of Carth Onasi and the reformed Revan. In a brief scuffle, Kandon was killed and Shan was freed."

Bastila Shan: no info relevant to Taris or swoop gangs.

Mission Vao: the only relevant info is: "Mission made many enemies during her struggles to survive, especially among the Black Vulkars,"

Zaalbar: you didn't ask, but I checked and there's no relevant info.

Carth Onasi: again, you didn't ask, but I checked and there's no relevant info.

Tarisian Season Opener: no entry.

If I've misunderstood and you're not only looking for info on Taris, the swoop gangs, and the conflict, let me know and I'll type up the full entries for the ones that I glossed over as not being relevant. Hope this helps. DolukTalk 04:42, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


 * No problem. For the swoop being invented on Taris, it does mention that in the Taris entry (although it says "According to legend, the swoop bike was first invented on Taris." so it's not definitive), I just found it surprising that Taris wasn't even mentioned in the Swoop, Swoop gangs, or Swoop racing entries. DolukTalk 15:14, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Strangler
Hey, partner,

As KoTOR's Grand Master, what is your take on these these two individuals? Given the events in KoTOR’s most recent issue, I am inclined to believe that they are in fact one in the same. Thoughts? —Tommy  ( Nine two eight one ) 02:05, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

#wp:kotor
Hi Cylka. I think I got banned somewhere during last night's little problem. :/ GroceryBag Grocery Store 16:00, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Morning Glory
Hey Cylka,

It was a dark and stormy night&hellip;only because the attack overwhelmed multiple individuals. —Tommy  ( Nine two eight one ) 04:14, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

KOTORII
Hey! The indirect mention of Gav and Jori Daragon I thought came on Korriban when Kreia is talking about the tomb of Marka Ragnos. She says: "As fate would have it, a pair of hyperspace explorers from Cinnagar landed on Korriban. Naga Sadow manipulated the Sith into believing they were a sign of impending Republic invasion." This seems like a clear reference to them even if they aren't named explicitly. And I actually meant to put Jango Fett instead of Boba Fett&mdash;thanks for bringing it up! The line that I think is a reference to Jango is at the end of the game after the duel with Kreia. She says of the Mandalorians: "They will die a death that will last millennia, until all that remains is their code, their history, and in the end, the shell of their armor upon the shell of a man, too easily slain by Jedi." This is a bit more oblique, but I still think it's pretty clear that it's a reference to Jango and his death at the Battle of Geonosis. I hope this helps&mdash;write me a message if you disagree with anything! Kebla 21:03, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

GAN: Madel Wharen
Hey Cylka, I think I've addressed your objections here. Could you read it through, and if you're satisfied strike the objections? Thanks! DolukFurthermore I believe that lists must be destroyed. 18:06, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help! DolukFurthermore I believe that lists must be destroyed. 03:46, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

GA
Hey Cylka, you said on Soresu's talk page that normal users should contact you if they see a GA in need of a review. So, here's one: All Terrain Tactical Enforcer. Many facts in the infobox and the text are not sourced, the intro and the Bts could need some expansion in my opinion. Also, I assume you will find further critical points if you review this article.  Pranay Sobusk  ~  Talk  21:05, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

thanks
Hey, I just wanted to say thank you for helping. It is very much appreciated!* torgutaFan * 03:18, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok I will. It is great to have people who have your Back* torgutaFan * 03:27, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Congrats
Hey I just want to say congratulations on winning wookieepedian of the month, despite my nomination and vote for Nayayen--Jedijake123 23:20, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

But now you need to say that you won on your page like all past winners, Cylka. --Jedijake123 00:52, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

wookieeproject
hey its me again and i want to know how i can join your wookieeproject Knights of the old Republic --Jedijake123 01:19, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Alright I added my name to the participants list now what? --Jedijake123 04:15, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

WotM
Hey, I just saw you got Wookieepedian of the Month! Congrats! DolukFurthermore I believe that lists must be destroyed. 03:58, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Congratulations from me too for winning! SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 08:18, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Congrats, Cylka, you deserve it. Plus, you were featured and interviewed on Wookieepedia's new blog!--Jedi Kasra (talk) 20:21, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Outer Rim
Would it not be easier to get a bot to change all cases of Outer Rim to Outer Rim ? SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 08:18, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * That's perfectly understandable. It's nice to do something different every once in a while :-). SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 09:01, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Hello again, Cylka. Sorry to bother you, but apparently my GAN, Spelunker probe droid, made it through, but it hasn't been archived. Has it been overlooked or am I just not looking in the right place? SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 00:12, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Both the links on the talk page direct to the orginial nomination by Darth Tyler. The archive should be at Good article nominations/Spelunker probe droid (second nomination) shouldn't it? SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 01:19, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Skirata
Alright, I'll keep that in mind next time. Most of them were minor grammatical and tense changes. Thanks for bringing that point to my attention, I really appreciate it. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 10:27, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi! How can I join the KoTOR project? Is their a sign up?--End0 da Baker 19:51, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank ya!
Thanks for leading me there! I'll help any way I can!--End0 da Baker 02:46, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Darth Bandon
I'll work on Darth Bandon's article after I get the Malak article passed as a GA. Bandon really needs some work, and who knows? Maybe I'll nominate him for the GA, too.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 20:14, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

New article to be nominated for GA
Ruthless Xero and I just completed Mandalorian Commander, and got it nominated for GA. It has also become an article in the KoTOR project? Can you recommend it for review by AgriCorps or Inquisitors, please? Because I guess we're supposed to get as many articles to good status as possible, right?--End0 da Baker 04:16, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Jake Farrell
Hi, do you think that it's possible that the similarity of Jake Farrell and the Green Squadron pilot is coincidental, even if not confirmed the former is based on the latter? Also please have a look at article Gamma Base commander and Gamma Base communications officer where the BtS section mentions that the game used footage from The Empire Strikes Back, replacing the faces from the movie scene, although it mentions no confirmation, since it is based only on the identical visual similarity (exactly the case with Farrell). All I have to say is that there is obviousness and common logic beyond subjective interpretation, unless of course if you insist that these two articles are also altered in this point. MoffRebus 01:01, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd also like to note that the abovementioned articles were written by an admin, and I used them as an example before editing the Farrell article. I don't mention that in order to reinforce my edit, only to note that perhaps visual interpretation perhaps should not be considered that far-fetched. Thanks MoffRebus 01:15, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply. All that I can say is that I comprehend that articles should follow some formal rules, despite pure logic shouting that the striking similarity to exact details DOES mean that the game character is based on the Green Squadron pilot frame :) MoffRebus 01:45, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Is that better?
I added a link to the Wizards page for the Clone Wars book... is that what you meant?

T. Rob Brown (DarthTrob) Darthtrob 06:36, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Just a head's up
Hey Cylka, just wanted to let you know that I've got a busy week or two ahead of me, so I'll unfortunately be on an actual wookieevacation for a little bit. Don't worry, I've still got a vested interest in the KOTOR project, I've just been really busy lately. Sorry for any inconvenience! 23:35, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Uploading images
Hello again Cylka. I've finally decided to start making some real contributions to WP:KOTOR, and I'm trying to get some KotOR 1 images onto the site. I've got Gimp, and I can take screenshots without the user interface, but I can't figure out how to take shots during cutscenes. That, along with any handy tips and tricks you have in your repertoire would be much appreciated. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 07:54, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * You're probably tired of hearing this by now, but thanks! I'll get to work right away. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 09:29, 12 March 2009 (UTC)\

KotOR idea
Might I suggest we nominate Zayne Carrick for GA. It hasnt been done, and I saw some VERY interesting things on the page. --Jedijake123 04:35, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Then how about the Padawan Massacre of Taris. It isn't FA or GA --Jedijake123 14:10, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

The massacre was mantioned in about all comics possible. See for yourself. --Jedijake123 22:21, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

All that you said about making sure all the sources are in the article, can you help me with that, I just joined the project yesterday --Jedijake123 22:38, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

I have the game, but it is hard to figure out. i will contact you when I have more info --Jedijake123 23:06, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Yuthura Ban
After I take care of the Darth Bandon article, would you like to work on the Uthar Wynn and Yuthura Ban article with me, see if we can get them GA'd? Also, I have some questions about those particular articles and The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 14:24, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, in the entry on Wynn in the CSWE, it says that he and Yuthura were killed in the fighting on Korriban, it also has it's share of fallacies, such as with its entry on Darth Talon. Thanks for putting those colons in the category links. Unfortunately, someone else will have to add the new info on Malak, since a financial situation of mine will not permit me to get any comics for a while.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 16:00, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * While were on the CSWE subject, when I was working on the Jedi Exile's article, I put down that the Exile allowed Vaklu to be killed by Talia, since his entry in the CSWE states he was executed by her.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 17:05, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm just saying, there is no info on these characters, other than from the strategy guides and the CSWE, that contradicts these statements from the Encyclopedia.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 17:14, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Revan's Rank
I was looking through some articles and I noticed that Revan's being a Master was sourced in one of them. In Chronicles of the Old Republic, he is described a Jedi Master before the Mando Wars. Though, you are right, K1 says he was only a knight, I believe Chronicles takes prevelance because it is the most recent. NaruHina Talk  21:46, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Endar Spire
I'm not exactly sure what I should do about the canonicity issue, but if it would be better, I could change Sith to Dark Jedi. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 09:53, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll have the head model thing checked up tomorrow for you. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 10:03, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I played it through with three different characters, and both the Sith and the Jedi turned up the same each time. The change when playing as a female was probably only to avoid having people will the same appearance as Revan. I'll add this into the bts when I've got time. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie ) 11:04, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Darth Bandon
Shouldn't the facial hair count for something in the "hair" section in the infobox? Plus, should I create an article on Darth Bandon's Jedi Master?--Jedi Kasra (talk) 15:40, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * OK. Could I make the link like this? Unidentified Jedi Master, like the Master of the Jedi Exile article? I'll create the actual article tomorrow, since I've got to get home now.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 21:26, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, the campaign guide calls Bandon a Sith Lord, in the section dealing with the Sith.

AC meeting reminder
Hey, Cylka, just wanted to send you a little reminder that the AC meeting is this Sunday at 4 PM EST. We have a few important agenda items to discuss, so hope to see you there. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:55, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

KotOR logo
I've already done one; I've just been lazy and not gotten around to uploading it yet. :P (Actually, I've got like thirty or forty comic and other logos done that I haven't upped yet, but I'll make sure I upload the kotor one first.) - Trip

Re:Chronicles continuity
Thanks. I believe Revan was referred to as a Jedi Knight in the KotOR Handbook and the Campaign Guide. I wish the Chronicles had been written more clearly, and I wish that the author paid more attention to other sources, but at least they put out other sources to override the Chronicles.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 17:06, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Re:Note about subpages
OK, that problem should be solved. The categories were fixed with colons as you said, and rather than removing the era tags altogether, I just put "nowiki" tags around them so they would still be there for reference. I'll remember this in the future. Thanks. Master JonathanJedi Council Chambers 23:08, 22 March 2009 (UTC)