Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Goran Beviin


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Goran Beviin

 * Nominated by:  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 02:55, 17 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Nomination comments: Resurrecting WookieeProject Legacy.

(5 Inqs/1 Users/6 Total)
Support
 * 1) A good read, IFYLOFD. There goes my thoughts of one day FA'ing this :P  Greyman ( Talk ) 09:17, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 2)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  20:17, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) I think I've picked all the nits I'm qualified to pick. --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 21:51, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Jinzler 22:02, 6 October 2008 (UTC) --Great work
 * 5) Green Tentacle (Talk) 20:10, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) Objections resolved on IRC. Cull Tremayne 01:09, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) I think that the introduction paragraph should be expanded, as it is kinda short at the moment --Jinzler 17:43, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *Expanded.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 20:04, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Preliminaries from Graestan the Cruel:
 * 4) * Sectioning is overdone in the bio.
 * 5) **Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 22:44, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) * Broken ref (number four).
 * 7) **Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 23:18, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) * Unsourced statements in the BtS.
 * 9) **Addressed. IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 22:44, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) * Graestan ( Talk ) 22:33, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) From the palace of Chack Jadson:
 * 12) * Longer intro.
 * 13) **Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 23:18, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) * No quotes in the middle of a paragraph.
 * 15) **Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 22:48, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 16) * It needs to be categorized.
 * 17) **Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 22:52, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 18) *Haven't read it, so consider these preliminaries.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 22:44, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 19) * I think you could expand on the fact that he is gay. Maybe just a little, so that when you read "married his husband" it's not so shocking and random. Perhaps you could get a bit in P&T, but make sure it's not OR.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 22:06, 19 September 2008 (UTC)]
 * 20) **Addressed. I put it in the P&T.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 23:54, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 21) From the Undisclosed Location of Darth Culator:
 * 22) * Colloquial language. I fixed a bit of it, but there's more. "Looking to," "unfroze," possibly more. I just skimmed it.
 * 23) * HE'S NOT GAY! Sorry, channeling anonymous fanboy trolls there. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 11:22, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 24) **Ha ha. Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 20:10, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 25) * Not really an objection as such, since we don't have a policy on such things, but given the number of species assimilated by the Borg Mandalorians and given his unique relationship status, it would probably be good to specify that he's a "human male Mandalorian commando" in the intro.
 * 26) **Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 23:45, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 27) * Calling the Vong "alien" in the intro is a bit biased to the humanocentric POV. "Extragalactic" or similar would be better.
 * 28) **Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 23:45, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 29) * Having Mandalore the planet right next to Mandalore the title creates a bit of confusion without additional context. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 22:22, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 30) **Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 23:49, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 31) *** I was referring more to the intro. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 04:18, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 32) ****Okey doke. Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 04:23, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 33) Chack has a few things:
 * 34) * Don't refer to them as Vong. Yuuzhan Vong.
 * 35) **Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 16:52, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 36) * Is there an article for the invasion of Helska IV?
 * 37) **Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 16:52, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 38) *Good work.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 15:45, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 39) From the Chron-O-John of Green Tentacle:
 * 40) * Intro: "He was one of Boba Fett's most trusted lieutenants, and was often called upon to be interim Mandalore while Fett was away." Often? I only saw one time mentioned in the article.
 * 41) **Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 20:40, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 42) * Settled down: "He relayed this to Boba Fett on Taris, along with news about Fett's family; Fett's daughter, Ailyn Vel, was alive, working under the name Ailyn Habuur." Bit of context on why Fett thought she wasn't alive, please.
 * 43) **Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 20:47, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 44) * Settled down: "During his short time in charge, Beviin mostly stayed home, shoveling dung and running his farm." When did he get a farm? If we don't know for sure, you could mention it in early life, like "at some point they got a farm". Only less lame.
 * 45) **Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 20:40, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 46) ***You forgot to add a reference for the introduction of the farm. Green Tentacle (Talk) 22:21, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 47) ****Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 00:14, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 48) * Personality and traits mentions them adopting several children. The article only specifically mentions one adoption, otherwise just saying they started a family. Mention the other adoptions somewhere in the biography, maybe under early life.
 * 49) **Couldn't really find anything on any other Beviin children, so removed "several children" phrase.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 20:55, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 50) ***In which case, you should probably remove the bit about starting a family from early life, since they didn't adopt until later. You also mention the children on the farm, which raises the question who the other children are. Green Tentacle (Talk) 22:21, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 51) ****Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 00:14, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 52) * Working for the Yuuzhan Vong says they were ambushed by a fleet, but after just refers to a single ship. Could do with some clarifying.
 * 53) **Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 21:00, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 54) * There's a few sentences starting "in 40 ABY". You could change one or more to something like "later that year" or "that same year".
 * 55) **Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 21:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 56) * Medrit is referred to as his husband. Is the word "husband" used in a canon source? Otherwise it would probably be more appropriate to use "partner".
 * 57) **Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 21:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 58) ***You still use "husband" in a couple of places. If the marriage isn't specifically mentioned in a canon source, we can only say that they're a couple. I know Karen Traviss has said that it's a same-sex marriage, but until it's stated we can't assume that. You could, however, expand BTS to explain it a bit more and mention her comment, rather than just linking to it in the reference. Green Tentacle (Talk) 22:21, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 59) ****Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 00:14, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 60) *****I still think the BTS needs expanding a little to mention that Traviss has said they're married, even if it hasn't been stated in canon yet. Green Tentacle (Talk) 18:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 61) ******Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 19:50, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 62) * Behind the scenes could use some brief expansion. Who created him and what did he first appear in? It would lead on nicely to where his name came from.
 * 63) **Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 21:07, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 64) *That's all. Otherwise, nice article on a character I never knew existed. Green Tentacle (Talk) 20:07, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Random stats: 1620 words. Word cloud. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 11:22, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) **Dangit! Can't view. Stupid laptop. :P  IFYLOFD  ( There is no death. There is the Force. ) 00:00, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) ***Hey, IFYLOFD, I suggest letting Jinzler know that the intro has been expanded by posting something on his talk page if you haven't already.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 18:52, 6 October 2008 (UTC)