Talk:Super Star Destroyer/Legends

Move to Super-class Star Destroyer? --Imp 13:56, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Doesn't seem to be any such class. This article's title refers to several different ship types (a class of classes?) which can be summed up as "Star Destroyers, but big."  However, almost all of the text is specific to the Executor-class Star "Dreadnought", and should be moved there.  Meanwhile, Star Dreadnought and possibly Star Battlecruiser should redirect here, as alternate terms for the same thing. (Which one is the most correct term is a debate I will stay well away from.)  &mdash; Silly Dan  14:09, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * The CUSWE entry calls it Super-class, and I've seen it mentioned a few times in the NJO series. --Imp 14:18, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * I created a page for such a class in the conjectural category, just in case. Thanos6 06:01, 10 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Just heavily edited this Wiki. The canonical evidence for "Star Dreadnaught" as a classification for SSDs is poor and ambiguous, but some disambiguation between the various classes may be useful.

-TMcE
 * All that rambling text about what its "correct" classification is should really go in another article. QuentinGeorge 06:36, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Additionally, the article is pretty much a rambling mess, full of OOU and POV. Can someone with some knowledge of this here clean it up? QuentinGeorge 06:41, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * And for that matter, move about half the text to Executor-class Star Dreadnought or whatever we're calling it? This spends too much time on not just one class, but on one example of one class. &mdash; Silly Dan  12:23, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Anyone got any thoughts on the latest anonymous changes? There seems to be some OOCism to me, but I am biased the other way. --McEwok 19:14, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Its the Executor-class Star Destroyer, part of Kuat's proud Star Destroyer tradition

The Rebels call it a Super Star Destroyer because, its triangular, and it has an Imperator Star Destroyer bridge tower and why "Super because its "it's freakin huge!"". The Rebels simply call the Imperator-class Star Destroyer an Imperial Star Destroyer, another simplified name just like North Korea, would you rather call it the Peoples Democratic Republic of Korea, probably not. Now I don't know about this Dreadnaught thing, Kuat Drive Yards was producing ships called "Star Destroyers" since Anakin was getting pimples, its their tradition which carried on for over 20 years. There was the Venator-class Star Destroyer, the Victory I and II-class Star Destroyers, the Imperator I and II-class Star Destroyer, and the Executor-class Star Destroyer. Most of the Star Wars characters use the simplified-down Star Destroyer term to refer to all the types, such as at the Battle of Hoth, when the Imperial Fleet approaches, an officer says "There's a fleet of Star Destroyers coming out of sector 4". In the Special Edition Vader tells an officer "Alert my Star Destroyer to prepare for my arrival." or when the Millenium Falcon is escaping Bespin and Leia warns Lando of the Executor's approach calling it a "Star Destroyer"
 * Yes, they might be referred to as "Star Destroyers" even if they are Star Dreadnoughts by people, but another slang term would be "Super Star Destroyers" for everything from around a Gauntlet-class Star Cruiser and up. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 01:01, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
 * That, and the possibility that most mentions of "Star Destroyers" bigger than the ISDs are simplified slang from that again. Either that or that all the different Imperial destroyers, cruisers, battlecruiser and battleships mentioned throughout the decades of EU publication, belong to a big design family known collectively as "Star Destroyers", getting secondary terms to differentiate their roles in the fleet. VT-16 14:31, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Possibly. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 21:09, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

A general comment
Seeing as we're either removing or redirecting several ship-related articles that describe the same thing, I think it's time we stop pretending that we don't "understand" the differences in SSDs. It's clear to anyone who's read about Naval warfare and history what the different terms mean and I don't think it should stay as a "mystery" what the difference between Star Destroyer, Star Cruiser, Star Battlecruiser and Star Dreadnought is. I know an extreme minority has been trying to muddle the issue and create problems where there are none, but I'm hoping we can look past that and move on. The English language and it's naval terms still stands, and so far I've seen nothing that dispells this notion. Yes, there are vastly different sizes for ships called the same thing, but there's nothing that can't be explained easily with different cultures and manufacturers using different standards. In recent years, enough work has been done with reference books to explain most of the discrepencies, and I think it's time to accept that and just move on. I'm not advocating any change in articles, as I don't find it necessary with the limited info we have so far, I'm just saying we should stop shying away from using the only thing that's applicable when nothing else is available: the English language. VT-16 11:29, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, we shouldn't "shy away" as you put it. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 13:25, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I didn't want to "enflame" or "restart" any kind of debates with this, just noting that, with what limited info we have, and with the aging of even the most recent additions to ship-tech-related books, I think any further debate on "what something means" is pretty pointless. Where it's appropriate, we have bts info on what something most likely is, based on its appearance and use, and where there's no doubt what something means, I see no need to keep the info out of the main article. Take Procurator and Mandator for instance. One is a Star Battlecruiser, the other is a Star Dreadnought. We only know that they guard Kuati space, and that they're bigger than an Acclamator. I see no problem with explicitly writing that one has less defensive capability than the other (be it shields and/or armor plating), simply based on their RL naval counterparts. It's just small stuff like that. And preferably keeping most info on the old fandebate out of specific ship-articles and into the Super Star Destroyer article or the ones on rl naval terms and their use in SW. It save space and gathers everything together. VT-16 15:16, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I suppose so. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 17:14, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Has a name ever been given to the SSD that was destroyed during the rebel raide on the Fondor Shipyards? (In Rogue Squadron III: Rebel Strike)