Talk:Lucien Draay

So is he Lusion or Lucien? And where did the name come from, anyway? - Sikon [ Talk ] 18:47, 26 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Lusion came from a transcript of the unveiling of the KotOR comic series (IIRC, at Celebration III), and so the spelling was more of a guess than anything, and was posted as a placeholder - Kwenn 12:35, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Search
searching for Lucien doesn't go directly to this page. It goes to lucien. Should there be a re-direct?

Eye Color??
Is there a canonical eye color for Lucien? The infobox said brown, but I removed it because I can't tell from the comics. If anything, his eyes look blue to me. - Breathesgelatin 10:15, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Definately blue - Kwenn 10:23, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks Kwenn! I thought so. - Breathesgelatin 10:40, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Lucien's Snide Remarks?
"Lucien met with the Jedi Council and informed them that he might as well have killed the Padawans of Taris."

Is this supposed to mean that Lucien was being sarcastic about the way he was being treated by the High Council or what? Could someone please be clear about what was happening during his meeting with the Master? I have not read the comics, and all the information I get comes from this website and the previews on DarkHorse.com, and this line just doesn't make sense.--Master Dakari 05:04, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't have it, either, but I heard Lucien confesses. - Sikon 06:29, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * This was very difficult to put. Lucien says "I did it. I'm guilty. I killed the Padawans of Taris...or I might as well have. The dark side touched my Padawan -- and I failed to act." He confesses but then takes it back. Odd. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 06:34, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * In other words, he does confess without actually doing so. He is a sly one. He confesses to killing the Padawans, but not in the sense of how he actually did it, but instead by not taking action when he supposedly felt the dark side in Zayne. Hence, by his inaction, killing them through Zayne's supposed action. That's pretty smart thinking. Thanks, everyone! By the way, what happened to Lucien's baby picture? Call me a softy, but I think it was cute.--Master Dakari 06:52, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Darth Sion
After seeing Lucien Draay in KotOR #18 I've got a hunch that he IS indeed future Darth Sion. Also, their eyebrows are very same as well as their facial features...Darth Paulus 21:51, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Birth
What's the source for his 4,000 BBY birth date?--Jedi Kasra 03:06, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Redemption added it, a fairly reliable user. If I were to guess, I'd say it was the KOTOR handbook. QuentinGeorge 03:13, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Fairly reliable? I resent that. Anyway, the exact line is "Lucien Draay was born on th what would become a dark day for all involved. That day, Jedi Ulic Qel-droma had his first contact with the dark side in the Beast Wars." Kinda chilling. -- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|25px]] (Talk) 04:56, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Darth Nihilus
Here's a MUPPET NEWS FLASH!

Our very own Mr. Will Karner has found evidence on Lucien Draay and Darth Nihilus being the same man. We have facts and without them, talk pages would be no more than a guessing game. Here are the Facts:

1. Lucien never received visions of his death in issue 5. Fact!

2. As a kid, Lucien complained about the Miraluka's "inability to see" in issue 9. Fact!

3. Lucien asked Zayne "why would he be exposed to the dark side" in issue 20. Fact!

Now, fellow users, what is the inescapable conclusion? - Will Karner 11:21 P.M., 15, November 2007


 * It's not fact, it's speculation. - Sikon 04:22, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The inescapable conclusion is that you need to stop adding fan-wank into articles. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 12:26, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, but Lucien did protest the Miraluka's Force sight and Visas said that Nihilus wanted her people to "see!" Honest! This is a very important piece of evidence! They have to be the same dude.

Of course, there are reasons why Lucien wouldn't join the dark side. If he did, what would his mom think? He would ruin everything she had created for in order to stop the Sith's return. He'd also be betraying his friends, including Q'Anilia. She maybe a Miraluka, but she and Lucien have been friends since youngling-hood. However, you know what Scar would say, "Long live the King (Jedi)!"

Look, I take Star Wars very seriously and you better find what you call "speculations" as interesting discoveries. Also, give me other reasons why Lucien couldn't turn evil, please. I don't know how to explain them. - Will Karner 1:15 P.M., 25 November 2007
 * Speculations, no matter how interesting, are just that. Speculations. Keep it off the talk pages and off the articles. It's getting very tiresome seeing every single talk page filled with your speculative shit. -- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|25px]] (Talk) 18:21, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Watch your language, buster! - Will Karner 6:01 P.M., 25 November 2007

Lucien or Lucius?
I know you guys think Lucien was probably named after the dude from The Count of Monte, but to me he looks a lot like the actor Jason Isaacs a.k.a. Lucius Malfoy. I mean, look at his face: Does it seem familiar to you? Lucien and Malfoy have the same hair color, the same sneakiness, and the same doubts about other people: Lucien doubted about the Miraluka and Malfoy despises about the Muggle-Born.

And if I were you, I'd assume that Lucien would have a British accent as well. - Will Karner 4:34 P.M., 18 November 2007
 * Really. You are really going to have to stop posting this nonsense crap on the talk pages. This is NOT what talk pages are for. And for the record, JJM has made this comment: Lucien’s look on panel two of page four is my favorite shot of him, yet. We’ll cast Rutger Hauer in the movie… -- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|25px]] (Talk) 21:43, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh. Sorry, I didn't know about that comment. And by the way, there's going to be a KOTOR movie? - Will Karner 6:01 P.M., 18 November 2007
 * Not in the foreseeable future. -LtNOWIS 23:04, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Now I'll show you that Lucien's referenced to Lucius Malfoy. Here:





If you look closely, you'll see that the head shapes are a lot similar, even if one's real-life and the other's illustrated. I would like to thank the dude who brought up the Lucius image.- Will Karner 7:40 P.M., 23 November 2007