Talk:MSE-6-series repair droid

The MSE-6 model doesn't appear in RotS - the Mustafar droids are much smaller versions, though as of yet, they don't have a designation. The Swarm War also mentions mouse droids, but gives no model name. Perhaps mouse droid should be made into an umbrella page to list the various models? - Kwenn
 * Well that would make the most sense, especially if there was more than one series of mouse droid. -- Riffsyphon1024 16:03, 1 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * As for the Separatist mouse droids, we'll probably need an article for them. Admiral J. Nebulax 15:43, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * We also need to mention the Mouse droids in the NJO (especially Destiny's Way)... and maybe rewrite the whole thing to be a little less obviously lifted from the Databank entry...? --McEwok 14:20, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Probably. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 20:32, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I expanded it and changed a few elements. Can someone check the Appearances section to make sure it reflects the MSE-6 specifically, and not any other MSE-series models? Also, I think this should be moved to MSE-6 droid, since "mouse droid" is a nickname derived from the model code, not part of the actual designation - Kwenn 13:01, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:21, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I see it's been moved now. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:55, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
 * According to The NEW essential guide to Droids, the Mouse Droids (or is that Mice Droids?) are MSE-4s. Gonk123 17:47, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
 * They are talking about the ones on Mustafar, And they also mention the MSE-5 but they don't have any discription for it. Gonk123 17:50, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, we'll need articles for them. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:22, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
 * StarWars.com says they are MSE-6s. Not only that, I noticed that some mouse droids have no panels or command trays. Gonk123 19:43, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, StarWars.com isn't always correct. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:53, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * WHAT? BUT THAT IS THE OFFICIAL SITE! Gonk123 02:26, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but they don't have the correct designation for things, and they sometimes make mistakes. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:14, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, who writes the site? If it's George Lucas himself, than the info is all true and there should be no mistakes. Gonk123 00:24, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Even if George Lucas himself wrote the site, that doesn't mean he'd get everything right. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:26, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I guess your right. But what about the Mouse droids that look like the MSE-6 but have no panels and command trays? Gonk123 00:33, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
 * They probably still are MSE-6s. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:35, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, you are probably right because i noticed that some R3s dont have any panels on their domes either. Gonk123 00:39, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
 * And you know what? Maybe the two mouse droids pictured behind the MSE-6 in the New essential guide to droids are different MSEs. Gonk123 00:39, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Why do you say that? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:42, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't know, just a theory Gonk123 00:48, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, if they are different, we have a couple of different MSE droids on our hands. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:06, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Now, about MSE-1T (I put that here because nobody seems to be looking at the article below). Is MSE-1T the name of the DROID or the DROID SERIES? One of them is called Frank, while the other one doesn't seem to have a name yet Gonk123 22:07, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Most likely the droid series. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:46, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, I just figured out that the Mustafar Mouse Droids are the MSE-4s because there is no other possibility. Gonk123 19:09, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Most likely. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:14, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

MSE-1T
Just for curiousity's sake, what MSE-1T are we talking about, if not MSE-1T? I'd like to see what source identifies the MSE-1T in question, if it is not the Star Tours version. LSUAdman 21:58, 3 July 2006 (UTC) Is there any source form
 * Is the Star Tours MSE-1T a mouse droid? No. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 21:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay. You've got the burden of proof. Prove to me that it isn't. Or, as per my question, state a source. The droid is MSE sized, looks like a rodent and is low enough on the series to be a very primitive model. Heck, it has the MSE id string. If it isn't, fine-- but state a source. Or remove the mention all together. LSUAdman 22:02, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd like to see a source that it is a mouse droid&mdash;or, better yet, the source where this MSE-1T droid, if it is different, came from. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:05, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Look, if we can't find a source for MSE-1T, then why is it here? Where, in writing does it say MSE-1T was the first MSE series? I'm looking at 4 separate hardcopy references, and the only one that mentions any other MSE droid is the NEGD. Those droids being MSE-4s, which were in ROTS. If MSE-1T isn't in the MSE series, then lets delete it. LSUAdman 22:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd like to know if there were two MSE-1Ts first. If there weren't, then the Star Tours one is it. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:13, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * And you are suggesting what? We leave it a redlink until we find a canon source? We know the MSE-1T is a MSE-1T. It's evident in the nameing scheme. To my knowledge, outside the toy MSE-1T and the Star Tours fan site, there arn't any other references to this droid. I'd hate to just leave a red link there because you don't believe the two droidslines look a like.LSUAdman 22:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Star Tours has a couple of droids that have names identical to other droids. That's why I'm waiting to see if there is a source for another MSE-1T. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:20, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Thats fine, but its not just your decision, and I'm not totally swayed. I'd like to see ways to fix this, not just roadblocks. So far you've had good reason to not link the article, but nothing that fixes a red-link on the article. What if we just move that whole statement down to BTS and say "A droid named MSE-1T can be found ...blah...blah...Star Tours. While it is not known if MSE-1T is part of the MSE series, it may be possible that it was the first." ---This is very loose, and not at all well written, but I suspect you get the idea. Then we can fix the red-link, and also leave the quote in. It makes it ambigious,but not a reference to it being cannon. This would be so much easier if someone come up with a source for that single sentence.LSUAdman 22:28, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The reason it's a redlink is because, as I have said, we don't know if they are meant to be the same MSE-1T. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I understant that. But there are two differnt things going on here. 1) The issue of where MSE-1T is the MSE-1T, and 2)Where is this source from? If there is no mention of it in any reference, and it isnt MSE-1T, then wouldn't that mean someone made this same conclusion a while back, without a source? If no source, then the article should be changed. The NEGD did a good job of covering all bases. Heck, it even canonized the G2 Goose droid from Star Tours. It did not mention any MSE outside of MSE4, MSE5,MSE6 anf YFH MSE. LSUAdman 22:36, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * That doesn't mean that another MSE-1T can't exist. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:38, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, use that same sourceless logic to explain the MSE-1T not being an MSE-1T then. All I'm asking for is a source Jack. Where does it say a) the MSE-1T is part of the line, or, b) That MSE-1T is or is not an example of said MSE-1T. Sources. You were so sure the droid didn't exist, now you are adamant that a droid that you can't even source may well exist? Using the logic you are showing, I could place an article in the 3P0-series saying it was and upgrade from the 2P0. The fact comes down to, as you said earlier, there is no proof MSE-1T is the MSE-1T in the article. Well, there is no proof that the MSE-1T is even related to the MSE series. What source can you tell me to disprove that? I'm willing to concede that MSE-1T is not related to the MSE-series, but not unless there is a source STATING that MSE-1T is a series of mouse (mice?) droids.LSUAdman 22:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, now you're saying two separate things. First, you had it that the Star Tours MSE-1T was a mouse droid type, and now you're saying it might not be. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 01:33, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, you two guys are confusing me. But here is the truth: The MSE-1T was a series of Mouse droid prior to the MSE-6 (according to Star Tours.net). There are two MSE-1T mice droids seen at Star Tours. One runs around, while the other is broken and is sitting in front of the MSE train track. One of these guys was nicknamed Frank for no special reason. What I want to find out is if the MSE-1T is the name of the SERIES or is it the name of the particular droid? Gonk123 19:52, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Giant Mouse Droid
What droid is this? According to Sompeetalay's Source Blog it's called a Giant Mouse Droid. Does anyone have a clue what it is?
 * You know what, I popped in RotJ yesterday and I thought the same thing. It does appear to be a giant mouse droid. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:08, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but it could be a MSE-9 or sumthin. Gonk123 18:57, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * But that's just speculation. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Data file) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 21:02, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, if it does not match any droid series, then someone should write an entry called Giant Mouse Droid! Gonk123 22:34, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, we'll have to created Giant mouse droid and, if the correct series is found, we'll move the article. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Data file) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:41, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Lets do it, then! Gonk123 17:50, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Please don't edit other people's comments. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:39, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * What? Gonk123 00:09, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
 * You had edited the link in one of my posts originally. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:50, 14 September 2006 (UTC)