Talk:Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (video game)

Demo Release Date
August 21st, 2008 on the Xbox 360 and PS3

Future Character
I'm not sure, but shouldnt this article have a future tab on it, as the game has not been released? or is it just the game itself that has the future product tab?

Darth Vader's Voice
Acording to the new Vanity Fair article Matt Sloan (from Chad Vader) is the voice of Darth Vader, not Terrence Carson. Oyam5000 16:30, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

play as darth vader?
according to a new article at starwars.com, at a certain point in the game, you will be able to play as darth vader. is this true? 69.76.52.74 03:02, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

First, if its on the official site then it is almost guaranteed to be true. But yes, the first mission is a tutorial of sorts on Kashyyyk. See the Vanity Fair Article. The Secret Apprentice 02:09, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Can you provide a link to the Vanity Fair Article? Darth Plagueis 14:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[| Here you go] Darth Greig 10:40, 9 March 2008

Thanks! Darth Plagueis 01:38, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Release Date
Amazon says July 29, but the Gamestop website says April 1st. Also, the Campaign guide supposedly comes out in April so it makes sense for the game to come out around the same time. http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=200286 Anyone know what it really is? The Secret Apprentice 02:08, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Gametrailers has August 8th, Gamestop has September 9th, and Hayden Blackman says April 4th. I'm going with Blackman's, as Gamestop has failed before. Other than that, I don't know. JamesKryack-DarthMalevlent ( The Sith shall rise to power!) |undefined 04:16, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

And if it's April 4, YES! If it's not, oh well; at least we still get the game. Darth Plagueis 00:08, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Wait a sec, when did Hayden Blackman say it's coming out on April 4? It seems like that is an older source you've been looking at, but I just wanted to make sure. Darth Plagueis 00:10, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * He announced that at the Game Developers Conference '08. The interview can most likely be found at G4TV.com. And also, can someone provide an actual link that says the release date is July 29th? Just because Amazon has it listed as that doesn't mean it's true. Like I said, I trust Hayden's more than I trust an online website. JamesKryack-DarthMalevlent ( The Sith shall rise to power!) |undefined 00:29, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

It will be a miracle for them to release it now though; they haven't even put out a huge marketing campaign yet! Besides, they said something about how on April 6, during one of Spike TV's showing of the Star Wars movies, they will show either the new trailer, a new documentary, new game footage, or all of those. They will also commercialize heavily for the game all month, and they may have new updates every time they show the movies. Plus, GameTrailers.com will have another TFU doc on April 11; we don't know if it's the same thing Spike's gonna show though. However, I am looking forward to either a May or June release date; coinciding with the new IJ movie, and being released in summer would really be advantageous to Lucasarts, so I think they'll do it then.

Darth Plagueis 01:30, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

The new official release date is September 16 :( Drewton 19:46, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, LucasArts said September 17th. This date has been confirmed also on G4TV and LA. TheNewDarthMalevlent  And so the name returns... |undefined 20:30, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * They said September 17 was for Southeast Asia and Australia. 'LucasArts today announced that its highly anticipated videogame Star Wars®: The Force Unleashed™ will be released on September 16, 2008 in the United States, September 17 in Southeast Asia and Australia'  G4TV also said September 16.
 * Crap, I was watching the wrong channel, 16th is right. Also, sign your posts. TheNewDarthMalevlent  And so the name returns... |undefined 13:55, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I'd forgotten to.Drewton 14:08, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

New Cover
Okay, they've got the cover for the game on IGN, so can anyone add it to the page? I don't know how to add pictures to wiki pages. Darth Plagueis 14:03, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Play.com have said it comes out on 26/09/08, gametrailers have said it comes out 08/04/08 and Lucasarts just say coming Summer 2008. Just forget about the release date for now people. 90% of all websites regarding the release date for the game have said it comes out in April, so let it rest until April. If its not out in April then it will be out for Summer, I'm as aching to get this game more than anyone, I've been anxious to get this game since they officially anounced it back in 2004. Lucasarts and all the game informers websites and game shops keep changing the release date every 5 minutes, so I suggest to everyone forget about the game for a while so when you see an advert on TV or a pop up on the net saying its out you'll be more exited about getting the game. Instead of always cheaking websites everyday for more information about the game and the release date, forget about it so if you find out the games been delayed you won't be as mad about it. One thing thats doing my head in is not just the release date the fact that Lucasarts have not given use reasons about why its been delayed. But I am pretty sure Lucasarts will get there act together and bring us the game by the time summer ends. WE HOPE.

Okay, for one, I wasn't talking about the release date. Sheesh. You took me way out of context. I mean check on IGN. They have got the cover of the game's box on it; i.e., the art on the cover of the box which will hold the game. This section had nothing to do with the release date; I just wanted to see if someone could upload that image. I'll do it myself now that no one understands me. I'm just as excited as you for this game; I'm sure we all are. It seems like you're the anxious one, actually. Besides, I'm not mad that the game has been delayed; it's just a video game, I don't spend my whole life looking at articles on it. I only look at new ones like the Vanity Fair article. And I'm just as patient as you are for this game; I can wait till winter if I have to, just so that the game has everything they say it will have. Darth Plagueis 00:07, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

So, how do we all like the new cover? For me, it's pretty sweet. Darth Plagueis 01:01, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I like it a lot as a poster, but I would've preferred something else for the cover, more like the KOTOR ones.Drewton 20:35, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

The first KOTOR cover is nice; the second one is okay, but not as good.

Seriously, this is probably the best cover considering what the cover of the book is.

Darth Plagueis 18:09, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree that KOTOR 1's cover is better. I like KOTOR 2 as a game more though.

I thought that the cover of the book is better than the game's; you can't see the Apprentice's face on the book one and the art's very good on the game one, but the only thing mostly we've seen him doing is killed Stormtroopers. I hoped that Vader or Sidious would be on it.Drewton 21:48, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

The only way I think they could have done that is if they had put the Apprentice kneeling in front of one of them, with some smaller, cooler picture in the background.

Besides, how would they do that; the game is mostly about the SA, since you play as him. I think the reason they did that was because they wanted to attract some people who had never heard of the game before and saw it in the store one day, and they wanted to give us something familiar.

I've never played any of the KOTORs, so I wouldn't know which is better or not.

Darth Plagueis 22:02, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Like in the concept art of the Apprentice kneeling before Vader.

I agree. They want to atract normal gamers who aren't fans of Star Wars.

Anyways, if I was designing the cover, I'd make it like this: Drewton 23:46, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

The Vader's Apprentice
Why a sith would kill the stormtooper of the Empire? Oméga 1036

Please look around on the web before you ask such generic, old questions that no one wants to answer anymore. This is getting old.

Even look at his page on this site; it'll tell you.

I'll tell you, though; he's a SECRET apprentice, even to Palpatine. If any stormtrooper were to see him and report it to the Emperor, Vader would be dead in a heartbeat, along with the SA. As such, Vader orders him to wipe out all witnesses, even stormtroopers. And there's not much incentive to not do this because the Empire has tons of stormies at their command, so I don't think Vader would care very much.

Darth Plagueis 23:33, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

ah ok sound good how stupid i am lol Oméga1036

Jabba?
Anybody have a source for Jabba being in the game? It was asked before but never answered. He's not listed on the "multimedia project" page either.InSaneWeTrust 09:02, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * There's concept art of escaping Jabba's Palace. Drewton 14:30, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

This is just concept art. There's no other sources for him being in there, so I believe we should probably take him out until we get further proof of him being here. Darth Plagueis 20:12, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * /agree. -MPK 20:18, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I took him out until we actually get confirmation of him in the final game. I mean, there's also that concept art of the apprentice with two female force-users fighting stormtroopers, but it doesn't look like they've made it into the game. InSaneWeTrust 22:57, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Platform differences
This article says that the Jedi Temple levels are exclusive to the Wii version, but I'm pretty sure the latest web documentary says that these levels will appear in the PS2 version. What's the deal as far as hat goes? Will they be in both versions? I ask this because I intend to purchase two copies: the XBox 360 version because of the latest graphics, and the PS2 version solely for the Temple levels, if they are in it as the documentary implies. (With the latter I'll probably just down load a save with those levels unlocked so I can play the PS2 version only for the Temple levels, and the rest of the game on 360.) But I don't have a Wii. 24.3.94.134 04:54, 7 April 2008 (UTC) Is there any chance that it will come out on the PC. ALso does the Wii Version use any of the physics engines or is it not powerful enough for that? --DarthBenjy 18:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The new webdoc comfirmed that it will be in the PS2 version, and in one or two reviews of the Wii version the author had played the Jedi Temple level, so it sounds like it's in both. Drewton  http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/c/c0/SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg/25px-SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg 12:28, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hm... are the Jedi Temple missions going to be in the PSP version as well as the WII and PS2 versions??? That's what the article on here is saying... I heard that the Jedi Temple missions were only on PS2. Are they on the PSP, too? --The Wolfe22 01:23, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I had heard the temple missions are only on the PS2 version while Wii gets dual mode (a vs. mode) and PSP will get historical missions (basicly just playing notable moments from the movies i.e. Luke vs. vader on bespin) it seems to be that if your buying for the X-Box or PS3 your paying for a graphic upgrade and missing levels, and for me that pretty much means im getting the PS2 vesion. Though I certainly wouldn't be surprised if the temple levels became DL content for the next gen consoles.FinalFighterA+
 * Well it will use some form of physics engine. In any game, physics has to be calculated in one form or another. But there was a review done and I think due to the Wii's limitations, good physics and graphics were limitations on that platform. As for PC, I hope it does come out. But so far there probably won't be a port (if it's going to happen) until half a year after it comes out on everything else.
 * Which will actually be a blessing, as when the game does come out on PC it'll be much better quality and may even have some extra bits like KOTOR. Katana Geldar  06:16, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see why there shouldn't be a port to PC. Most of Lucas Arts sales have been attributed to PC (Look at Dark Forces, or KOTOR). By this stage high end PCs easily rival consoles (Look at GTA IV, Bioshock or Crysis). A friend of mine claims he saw an article (he was unsure where, and thinks it may have been faked.) stating a PC port would happen. But I dunno, hopefully we see one. LucasArts and their appropriate developers are normally very good when it comes to the PC games (i.e. Easy online capabilities, easy modding, etc.) Giga Hertz 12:21, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Useable force abilities and lightsaber abilities?

 * What are the known force abilities you can use in this game (beside the oveous as seen in the gameplay videos Force push, pull, grip, and lightning)?
 * Don't forget Force Repulse! 67.182.122.244 01:37, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Also, will there be varying styles of lightsaber and possabily diffrent lightsabres (twin sabers, double sabers, saber staffs, curved sabers, etc) to use in this game? I notice the main character wields the sabre in a unique way along the back of his wrist, indicating a unique way of combat (I do not know of any of the offical forms of saber combat utalizes this stance) and in the consept art, he uses twin lightsabers while useing force repulse, so its possable he uses 2 within the game.
 * About the the fighting style that the apprentice is shown using, with the lightsaber held in a reverse grip, the style is called Shien. It's the same style that Adi Gallia used. I'm not sure what the answers are to your other questions though. 96.233.181.113 14:05, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Music composer confirmed
A member on TheForce.net posted that Mark Griskey, composer of KOTOR 2, will do the music for TFU. He didn't post a source, but said it was from an LA rep. The member also posted the first information of Darth Desolous a while ago, along with concept art of him and Phobos from Krome Studios. It sounds plausible.

"Hi, everyone. Another new introduction. My name is Jesse Harlin and I'm the Music Supervisor/Composer for LucasArts. Just wanted to say "hello" and say that I'm really happy to hear that people are enjoying the music so far. Mark Griskey has written a fantastic score that really bridges the time between Ep 3 and Ep 4.

It's been asked a couple of times on other threads, so I thought I'd clarify: yes, the music on the website is from TFU. The track that plays throughout the site right now is called "The Force Unleashed" and is the game's main theme. We're working on getting some more music up there on the site for everyone, so keep an ear out for that soon.

Feel free to ask me any questions you want about the music and I'll do my best to answer everything that I can.

Glad to hear that you like the KOTOR music. Hopefully you'll be glad to hear that Mark Griskey - the composer for KOTOR II - has written a great score to TFU. The final game will use a combination of both Mark's original music and the familiar John Williams' scores from the films.

And if I ever get word that through strength in numbers we can all band together and change the necessary copyright agreements to allow for CD releases, I'll let everyone here know. Trust me, as the composer for Republic Commando, I want to see things released on CD just as much as you do. ; )

Mark has developed his own set of original themes for the game, so you can definitely expect to hear new original music for Raxus Prime, Felucia, and our main characters like Juno, PROXY, General Kota, and of couse, the Apprentice himself.

More music will be available on the website for sure. I can't wait to share with you Mark's score. Just as the game is a transition from Episode 3 to Episode 4, Mark did a brilliant job of transitioning the music from the feel of the Prequels to the feel of the Original Trilogy. "  Drewton   01:54, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Neat feature
I was just looking at a copy of P.C. Gamer at Wal-Mart (I was a bit short on cash to buy it) and it had an article on this game. Interrestingly enough, it mentioned a duel mode, basicly a lovely 1 vs. 1 system where you could pit anyone who had a lightsaber in the movies against anyone else who had a lightsaber in the movies, including several versions of the apprentice (bounty hunter disguise, his fathers robes, sith robes, training fatigues,ultimate good outfit, and ultimate evil outfit), but excluding Yoda and Sidious. I figured it was worth mentioning. 24.119.217.230 19:54, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Not a Bull Rancor
Looking at the picture of the SA shocking the rancor, that's just a rancor, right, because the concept art of the Bull Rancor was green and had tusks, and this one looks almost exactly like the one in Jabba's Palace.

Should we change this or just wait and see?

Darth Plagueis 20:00, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

By Jove, I think you're right. It looks like a normal rancor with paint or something else on it. Maybe we could change the article to say it is a possible Bull Rancor?  Darth Greig   (Talk)   20:53, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Or just say that it's a rancor, since it is a rancor and because calling it a rancor won't contradict anything. On the other hand, why are we letting concept art sway our view of what's in the actual game? -MPK 21:48, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it's intended to be the same thing, they just decided to change the appearance from how the concept art was. Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 14:57, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Like I said earlier, let's just wait and see. Besides, if they changed the Bull Rancor to look like that, it wouldn't be much different from a regular Rancor, considering the only thing that really separates them is the paint. Also, why would they change it so much from the concept art? I mean, they could do that for other things, but saying this is a Bull Rancor and then looking at the old concept art really stretches what you would expect it to look like from the name. Also, this might just be a regular Rancor, warming us up for the later, more concept-art-like Bull Rancors in the Shaak Ti fight (or in some other fight before then). Either way, I refuse to believe this is a Bull Rancor until stated otherwise in the game; then I won't have a problem with it.

Darth Plagueis 23:25, 20 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Who ever said that ALL bull-rancors had tusks? Not all of them have tusks... Maybe they come with age.. There are also bull-rancors is Star Wars Galaxies, aren't there? Those ones don't look any different from normal rancors.. They all vary by appearance, but their skeletal structure and insides are all the same, and belonging to the sub-species of BULL-rancor. --The Wolfe22 01:32, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I'll let off here so we don't all get into an argument. Let's all just wait for the game now to answer this question, shall we?

Darth Plagueis 01:37, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

D.g That is just concept art maybe they didn't like it and went for the current look instead.

Cam Clarke
We cite IMDb as the source for him being the voice of Obi-Wan, but he is currently not listed on their page. If we can't find another source for that information, it should probably go. -LtNOWIS 06:48, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, really? Interesting...he's also the voice of the Jedi student. 67.182.122.244 01:46, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Jedi Temple Level
The picture says the Jedi Temple is only a current generation level.On The Level list it states the Jedi Temple is only for te Playstation 2,PSP,and wii it must be fixed. (General of war 19:38, 2 May 2008 (UTC)) Current Generation includes Wii,Nintendo DS, PSP,PS3, XBox360.So PS2 isn't exactly a current generation system.
 * What must be fixed? Drewton  [[Image:SWTFU_WP1_1280x1024.jpg|25px]] 19:43, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * PS2, PSP, Nintendo DS, and maybe Wii are current-gen, and Xbox 360 and PS3 are next-gen. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 02:14, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

DS Creature
On a video on the lucusarts website showed a worm like creature in the backround in the DS verion does anyone reconize it Death_StarIII

It's a sand burrower, as those seen in Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy on Blenjeel --Seth danny 01:44, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

First appearance
The game article lists this as Starkiller's first appearance. Doesn’t he appear a month earlier in the comic first? I think the article should be changed.  Darth Greig   (Talk)   22:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Technically, the comic was announced last, and is barely any newer than the game. Plus the comic has the same story as the game. *shrug* They're both part of The Force Unleashed, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Why the hell isn't Galen's first appearance Soul Calibur IV? And don't go there with "Oh, he was called "The Apprentice" in there, not Galen Marek" because it's the same damn guy. ~ Jigsaw_541
 * I made that same mention to an administrator (since Marek's page is protected from new users and he's the only user I knew at the time) and requested it be mentioned in his list of appearances, though since it isn't canon, he said he couldn't do so. Yoda and Anakin have lists of non-canonical appearances, so why Galen's article can't make the simple mention of Soulcalibur IV being his first true appearance in a form of media, regardless of not being a canonical source, is beyond me. // ~mikah~  03:28, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Bull Rancor (the true version)
So, I was looking through pics and found this. I only say it's the true Bull Rancor because it looks way closer to the original concept art than that regular old painted-up Rancor.



Darth Plagueis 01:44, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Ja, I posted something similar on the Bull rancor's discussion page. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 01:49, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Major plot revelations
Major plot revelations JAF1970 01:51, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

This article is really bad quality
This is going to be a major multimedia event and the quality of this article is appalling. What's up with that plot points section? It's just a list of game dynamics, last time I checked plot points was about story, not a random list of anything you can think of. Pretty much everything from "Plot points" down needs to be re-written, but I hardly know anything about the game. Katana Geldar  05:56, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * This article is about a future game. We don't know much about it yet, so we're just saying the stuff that has been revealed to us by the game designers and lucasarts. When the game is released, I assure you that we will have a more accurate plot summary. Soresumakashi 06:02, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not talking about accuracy, I'm talking about quality. At the moment this article resembles the Millennium Falcon, bits all over the place and some parts of it resemble a fan site. Katana Geldar  06:13, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, not the game is close to coming out can something please be done about eh quality of this article? Again, I'd do it myself but I don't have that much information. When people play the game a lot of them will come here, is there anything wrong with having an article that is of good quality? Katana Geldar  12:38, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Did you consider that an awful lot of us are in the same boat as you? Giga Hertz 12:42, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Is plot points really necessary now since the novel is out? Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 12:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The novel isn't out. -MPK
 * Except it is. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 17:29, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Then why does its article say the release date is August 19? -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 14:07, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That's the American release date. It came out in Germany several days ago, hence the warning at the top of the pages about incoming spoilers. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 14:12, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Some nerf herser took off the clean up tag and the article is still very bad quality. Katana Geldar  12:21, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Console divide
Has there been any explination for why the Wii etc. Have been set to get so much additional content not on the 360 version?SargeLIVES 01:30, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Vs. mode on PS2
Can someone tell me if vs. mode will be on the ps2 version? KuellerLives 09:43, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It won't be. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 17:43, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't know where this link should go.
http://e3.g4tv.com/e32008/hdvideos/26865/Star_Wars_The_Force_Unleashed_Launch_Trailer.html

Its from G4 its a trailer from E3 2008. Help would be most appreciated.

Ending question
An interesting little canon conflict here. The novelization of this game has Nion staying on the Dark Side until his bosses hang him out to dry. We're currently taking this as canon, as displayed here. HOWEVER, the game is rumored to have a Light Side ending, and when it comes to multiple endings canon defaults to Light Side. Will this create problems for us? 02:37, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Not likely. If I recall correctly, it's a general rule that the novelizations overrule any games that they might be based on. Therefore, the novelization's ending is most likely to overrule any of the endings in the game. -MPK13:32, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

PSP/PS2
Can anyone tell me where I could find a detailed comparison between the two versions of the game? Also, as far as anyone knows, will the PSP version have Ad-hoc or infrastructure modes? PSP has historic missions, Force duel, order 66 and force frenzy, but only ad-hoc multiplayer. --The Wolfe22 21:58, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nevermind. I think I found what I was looking for. (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/07/joystiq-hands-on-star-wars-the-force-unleashed-ps2-psp/) =) --The Wolfe22 18:06, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Demo
Not that important as of yet, but the Star Wars The Force Unleashed demo has been confirmed for this month; GameTrailers has apparently announced the Demo will be released on the 21st. Link to the article: http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/star_wars_the_force_unleashed/preview-921.html Link to specific mention of Demo: http://www.videogamer.com/news/12-05-2008-8259.html - LTenhet
 * right now it's only available on X-Box for gold members. does anybody know when it is available for anyone to download?98.27.209.235 03:04, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Soundtrack
Probably about a week ago, I added the tracks from the soundtrack to the music section. Who deleted them and why? There's absolutely no reason to have deleted them. --The Wolfe22 21:45, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * As I mentioned in my edit summary, there's no reason to list here every song on the soundtrack, as well as their lengths. If an article for the soundtrack is created -- which you can do yourself, by the way -- they can be listed there. // ~mikah~  23:25, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I noticed that most SW games soundtracks (except for Shadows of the Empire) don't seem to have their articles (or I am too dumb to find them). We should have not only Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (soundtrack), but also Star Wars: Republic Commando (soundtrack), Star Wars: Empire at War (soundtrack) and many-many others. How about I create List of soundtracks with redlinks and them people can start to expand them? Mauser 13:10, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If it were up to me, I'd just be bold about it and go right ahead. I don't see why anyone would have a problem with it, as long as you stay within policies and guidelines. When you've finished the list, drop me a line and I'd be glad to help out from there. // ~mikah~  14:11, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The problem is, my list was deleted soon after its creation, so until I have a permission from some admin, I won't advance in that direction. Mauser 14:30, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * As it turned out, there are actually quite a few games that featured original score. Besides the three games I mentioned above, only Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (soundtrack) and Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords (soundtrack) have proper promo-releases with track listing, not just some game files without name. I'll go ahead and create an article about TFU score basen on this article. Anyone is welcome to work on the rest of them. Mauser 15:03, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Asajj Veentress and Aayla Secura
Are they actually in the game? Or are they just in the Duel Mode? Thanks. JediNTT307 17:11, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Considering they were killed off before and during the Great Jedi Purge, respectively, it's safe to assume they appear only in Duel Mode. I'll go make the appropriate changes to the article, unless they appeared as holograms or were mentioned in the game's cutscenes. // ~mikah~  18:06, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Galen's canon death as a Jedi
We all must decide on the issue of his affiliation when he died. Besides, you know the saying from Batman: the Dark Knight: "Whether you die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." To our answer, my friends, is that he sacrificed himself as both hero and Jedi. So I propose we put the categories "Redeemed Jedi" and "Post-Ruusan Jedi trainees/Knights," with the character info box altered of course to see the allegiance he died as a part of. 72.87.69.13 22:55, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * But he was never a member of the Jedi Order at any point in his life. -MPK 13:30, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Is that actually necessary to be a trainee? Wouldn't all he really need to do is be trained (hence the trainee part). He is supposed to be trained be Rahm Kota, right?

I agree Yun was never a member of the Jedi Order, but he redeemed himself so did Galen. - Ranveer2 19:12, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * So how about putting in "Redeemed Jedi" for heaven's sake, so we can know he was the hero in the end?
 * Because he never was a Jedi. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 13:09, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * But he did redeem himself in the end, as in, "turn away from the dark side." What's the difference in that? 72.209.10.107 19:08, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

The difference is that being a Force-user who follows the light side doesn't make him a Jedi. Being a member of the Jedi Order does. He was never a member of the Jedi Order, therefore he can't be a redeemed Jedi. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 21:38, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Star Destroyer
If I'm not mistaken, before this game, it was pretty well-established that Star Destroyers (Imperial I & II class, anyway) couldn't enter a planet's atmosphere, but that established fact is directly contradicted in this game, shouldn't this be noted, or have I misunderstood something? 129.107.81.12 01:28, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

You can't see them very well through the smoke of the battle, but if you look at the second battle of Kashyyyk in the imperial era page, you will notice that they are listed as victory class star destroyers. But since you can't see them through the smoke that is all speculation.User:Revanthereformer1138
 * Also interesting how the Imperator-class SDs are portrayed as identical to the Imperial IIs, even though they [the Imperial IIs] didn't exist yet. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 23:06, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Im pretty sure in Battlefront2 a Star Destroyer on hoth gets in the atmosphere and bombards a rebel transport.So what is it can they go in the atmosphere or not?Sith-venator7:53 9-6-08
 * From my understanding, Star Destroyers can only enter a planet's atmosphere... if it's in a video game. -_- Lame... Also, no, a SD did not need to enter the atmosphere to bombard the transport, it can do it from orbit outside the atmosphere. It really is kind of annoying how there's so little regard for canon or common sense when appearances-sake is involved. 129.107.81.12 01:19, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Hidden Clone
I dont know if anyone has noticed this but in the demo, after eclipse tells you tie fighters are near, go through the door and turn right and go all the way down even past the broken bridge you have to cross,you'll see at the end there is a little roof, now get some metal boxes and use force to bring them over and stack two on top of eachother verticly making them stand their tallest, all you need it two, then double jump on the roof and you will find a clone troopers orange and white helmet, with the part he sees through glowing blue. hope i helped people find it.

Starkiller's Fighting Style?
What is Starkiller's fighting style? I think that it's Form I, but I'm not sure. CountAlucard 21:03, 6 September 2008 (UTC) CountAlucard
 * Galen Marek. // ~mikah~  21:46, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

"PlayStation 3...the reason that the game was delayed" - Let's try this again...
Alright, I already posted this problem here before, but it got deleted. I decided to start an account here, check out who deleted my post, and re-post it. Turns out it was done by an X-Bot. Go figure. If they see something they don't like, they just delete it. Most likely them who posted this problem on the article page in the first place.

Under the section "Behind The Scenes" > "Information" it states "Transferring the game to the PlayStation 3 version was the reason that the game was delayed." with absolute NO source at all what-so-ever. I would like it to be source or it gets taken off. I know that it has been delayed multiple times for multiple reasons, that, as far as I have ever read, was not one of them, not to mention it isn't source anyway, meaning whoever put it up most likely doesn't know what they are talking about.Jigsaw541 03:33, 8 September 2008 (UTC)Jigsaw541

I have decided to personally look for any truth to this, which only leads to second rate websites (from what I've found) that clearly say the PS3 version is the reason for the delay. If an idiot is reading it. The reason for the delay was Lucas Arts' own fault for restraining themselves by developing the 360 version and trying to port it over to the PS3, which just doesn't quite work that well in the first place. The PS3 is totally different and can't just have a pasted copy of another systems game. The reason this game was delayed was because they tried to port the 360 version to the PS3, it is not because of the PS3. I'll be looking for a more credible website that states what I've already found (so it will be a credible source) and change the information appropriately, as there has been no source given that officially says "Transferring the game to the PlayStation 3 version was the reason that the game was delayed." directly from the dev team. Jigsaw541 04:01, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * PS3 fanboyism in a Star Wars article? Come ON folks...  Stuff is developed on the 360 and ported over all the time, because the PS3 is difficult to program for, and the dev kits are inferior.  It's the reason for TONS of delayed releases, this one jsut happened to be kept to all platforms, instead of just being a late release for PS3 (like Orange Box, Rock Band 2, numerous others).  "Tranferring" or "porting" the game to the PS3 WAS the reason for the delay.  It's not a knock on your favorite system, it's just the way things work.  140.185.215.113 17:09, 25 September 2008 (UTC)Steve
 * I find it very amusing you complain about the lack of a valid source, change the statement, and neglect (for whatever reason you may claim) to add a source yourself. Is there any source that officially states either problem was the cause of the delay in the first place? If not, I support removing any variation of the comment on sight until a source can be provided. // ~mikah~  18:25, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Haden Blackman said at a GDC lecture that the delay was caused by porting from 360 to PS3. Force.Net (though I hate this source). Ya know. A little research on your part wouldn't hurt...-- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|25px]] (Talk) 18:39, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * TheForce.net is a source regardless. It'll serve its purpose as well as any other site (I've seen worse websites for references than this). Additionally, some don't always have the time to do all the research themselves; not in Jigsaw's defense, or my own for that matter, but there are other more important issues that people must attend. // ~mikah~  20:14, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It took you more time to write that statement (and remove it from the article) then it did for me to find that source. I mean, really. Give me a break. -- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|25px]] (Talk) 00:49, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Story section
With the game finally released in America, I think it's about time we change the "Story" section to a more proper synopsis. Personally, I think the whole bullet, plot-point...'method' we have going is hidious. I have the game but won't be able to update the section until later on tonight, and it's not like somebody has to get it all down in one shot anyway; that's one of the many glories of this website. // ~mikah~  18:52, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Incorrect Information in 'Alternative Dark Side Ending'
This description of the alternate dark side ending is erroneous.

First this: "Without warning, Palpatine draws his own lightsaber and attacks Galen. Galen has already betrayed his both his previous teachers, Palpatine does not wish to give Galen the opportunity to betray him as well."

This is flat-out wrong. At the last moment, Galen decides to betray Palpatine and tries to attack him; however, Palpatine has already forseen the betrayal and is ready for it. He DOES NOT attack Galen first, he waits for his vision to come to pass.

Second: "The Rogue Shadow arrives on the scene in an attempt to rescue Galen, but Palpatine destroys it, then pummels Galen with scrap metal."

Another inaccuracy - Palpatine doesn't destroy the Rogue Shadow first, he throws the ship itself at Galen and crushes him with it, thereby destroying it. There is also no mention of Galen finding the dead Bail Organa outside on the ledge with him (which I think is pretty important).

May I suggest the following re-write:

"After giving into his hatred and killing Vader, Palpatine offers Galen a chance to become his new apprentice -- once he kills Kota, who has already been seriously injured by Palpatine's force lightning. Galen teeters between dark and light, unsure about the choice in front of him. Ultimately, he chooses the light; at the last moment, he turns and attacks the Emperor, who has already anticipated the young man's betrayal. With a blast of force lightning, Palpatine forces Galen out a window, where he lands on a ledge next to an already-dead Bail Organa. The Rogue Shadow descends towards the ledge in an attempt to rescue Galen, but the Emperor seizes the ship with his force grip. Just as Galen realizes that the Rebellion is dead, Palpatine throws the Rogue Shadow at him, violently crushing him as the scene closes. The next sounds that are heard are belabored, drowning gasps. A hand is shown, with long, sharp talons grafted over torn-away flesh, as the camera pans up to show Galen, attached to a table similar to the one used by Darth Vader at his rebirth on Coruscant. Galen's skin is now a pale gray, a long red tatoo adorning his right arm. His head is encased in a helmet fitted tightly to his skull, and his body is covered by a sinister armor, grafted to his ruined bones. Presumably, by the sound of his tortured gasps, this armor, like Vader's, is the only thing keeping him alive now. In front of him, Palpatine looks on with disgust. He tells Galen how he laments the loss of the Apprentice's abilities and promise, but reveals that he still has some small uses for him. He states, in no uncertain terms, that Galen's only purpose in life will now be to find and eliminate Palpatine's remaining enemies, and, when the Emperor has found a new apprentice, he will be cast aside just as Vader had been. Pointing at the now disfigured and broken man before him, he tells his medical droids to finish Galen's Sith Stalker armor. The final scene, shot from inside Galen's helmet, is filled with terrifying and disturbing screams as the young man is prodded and stabbed with large needles, moments before one of the droids quickly inserts one of the needles into his left eye."

Please note that this re-write is based on the Playstation 3 and Xbox360 versions of the game - the PS2, Wii, and PSP versions differ slightly (most likely to shield the more disturbing parts of this ending from children). 138.110.7.184 19:34, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

EDIT: Here are the variations of this ending: PS3/360 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNIU-9X5Eso Wii/PS2/PSP - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cTKyLXZPKY 138.110.7.184 19:42, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Appearance Section
something major needs to be done with either the appearance section or the platform differences section. I have the 360 version, and many many many of the characters it says are in the game are definitely not. Somebody needs to take the platform-specific characters and say which consoles feature them.
 * Well, as far as I can tell Garm Bel Iblis, Mon Mothma, Darth Phobos, Darth Desolous, Lobot, Kleef, Drexl Roosh, Chop'aa Notimo are not in Nintendo DS version. Also, I noticed that in cellphone version Vader sent Starkiller to destroy the facility above Nar Shaddaa instead of Raxus Prime.Hope that helps. QuiGonJinn 09:25, 28 September 2008 (UTC)QuiGonJinn

Zoist, Kota
There are apparently more differences between the various versions of the game besides just the addition of several stages. If Galen did indeed travel to Zoist at one point, and Kota was found on Bespin -- in whatever version -- we need a definate source of canon within the video game article. We can't be uncertain with our details and constantly change them. // ~mikah~  20:02, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I've only played Nintendo DS version and Starkiller finds Kota on Bespin there. I believe that he does also in PS3 and XboX 360 versions,while in PS2 and maybe PSP and Wii versions Kota is found on Nar Shaddaa. As for Ziost, Starkiller only mentions that he travelled there while talking with Rahm. QuiGonJinn 12:39, 29 September 2008 (UTC)QuiGonJinn
 * Xbox 360 is definately Bespin, with only a mention of Ziost as one of the places Marek looked before finding him. Its worth noting that he searched for Kota for around a month in the book, giving him time to visit these places. - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 12:43, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If there is indeed big differences in the game depending on the console, I believe separate pages should be made for each, as it might confuse people, (I know it confused me). 76.112.29.4 12:46, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Only a month in the book? Graphic novel says that he was searching for six months.QuiGonJinn 13:03, 29 September 2008 (UTC)QuiGonJinn
 * As I recall, he was six months on the Empirical, then another month searching for Kota. I will check when I get home though. - Cavalier One ( Squadron channel ) 13:22, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * As for the IP's comment (you don't have a username to go by, sorry), the seperate article idea is actually pretty good. But how do we handle it? From my look on things, there are at least two ways to go about it:
 * Create seperate articles for each individual version of the game (or in some cases, like the PS3 and 360, versions due to their similarities) and link to all of them in the Synopsis section rather than having a definate story; or
 * Create one branched article about the game's story, and list the differences in plot and presentation within. The story being told on this article, however, still causes a problem as one platform can't outweight another in canon. // ~mikah~  18:31, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that Bespin is canon because it was also featured in novel and graphic novel.And all other versions should be noted in BtS section.QuiGonJinn 18:50, 29 September 2008 (UTC)QuiGonJinn
 * Is Bespin where Kota is found in the novel? I don't have the book, so I'm just going with what I'm given here on Wookieepedia, but I'm still iffy about using the novel to define the game's canon, because the book isn't the game. // ~mikah~  19:15, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * In the PSP version we went to Bespin to find Iblis. We met (and knew) Lobot, met a mandalor and a new basilisc war droid. Darth Morrt 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Junk on Raxus Prime
- I noticed we included the Millennium Falcon as a cameo. If we're going to do that, should we include all the other recognizeable ships and vehicles you can find in the Raxus Prime junkpiles as well? just going by what I've seen casually, there's Geonosian starfighters, AT-TEs, Juggernaut tanks, a corellian corvette, and even an entire Lucrehulk at one point.98.27.209.235 20:26, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I wondered the same thing. Adding them wouldn't be doing harm, as they do appear in the game, but would they be considered canonical? // ~mikah~  20:36, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * While I've yet to see the Falcon, I assume all the others would be considered canonical appearances - Raxus Prime is a scrapyard, after all, and none of the other ships or vehicles seem to be up and running. Grand Moff Tranner [[Image:Imperial Department of Military Research.svg|20px]] (Comlink) 21:02, 29 September 2008 (UTC)