Talk:Anakin Skywalker/Legends

Sidious is not Anakin's father
To quote from Dark Lord, near the beginning of Chapter 21, p. 133 in the hardback:

"He recalled thinking: What if Anakin should die?

How many years would he have had to search for an apprentice even half as powerful in the Force, let alone one created by the Force itself to restore balance, by allowing the dark side to percolate fully to the surface after a millennium of being stifled?"

Two sentences later:

"Sidious would have had to discover a way to compel midichlorians to do his bidding, and bring into being one as powerful as Anakin."

It's very clear: Sidious neither knew how to do the midi trick, nor did he create Anakin, and he personally believed Anakin to have been made just by the Force. I'm removing the speculation that it could be Sidious, and I'll ask that no one re-adds it without addressing this. - Lord Hydronium 08:58, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Sidius is not anikans father.it's stated in episode 1 that there was no father(shmi skywalker is the mother)Thire 4477 01:03, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * We know that Sidious wasn't Anakin's father. The father was likely Plagueis. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 12:00, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Nor need Plagueis be his 'father' in the traditional sense of the world. To be clear, he almost certainly didn't have sex with Shmi Skywalker (unless we include mind-wiping or other such things, but that's taking fan speculation to the brink.)  Technically speaking, he'd no more be the father than the clinician who deals with in-vitro fertilization treatments, though his role in the creation would be greater. 68.228.89.148 02:32, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Hair Color
Blonde ! Anybody with half a brain can see he has brown hair, who's with me ! screw you assca ducato
 * And anyone with two-halfs of a brain can see that his hair isn't brown in the eyes of the NEC. Jasca Ducato undefined 18:18, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It's brown, not blonde. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 20:29, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * You're getting banned for that one. Go to hell, you damn anon. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 11:30, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't feed the trolls. Atarumaster88  13:02, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * You dudes are crazy KKR 20:19, 21 May 2007 (UTC) KKR
 * If you're talking to me, no. Sticking up for a friend is not being crazy. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 00:14, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Spending time under the sun -let alone two of them- can bleach the color out of most fine-haired types. That's where the term 'sun-bleached' comes from.Tocneppil 06:43, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Anakin had blond hair as a little kid and a teenager. Once he got a bit older, his hair got darker, but it should still be classified as blond.  Even though it looks brown. Revan211 16:58, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Clone Wars Pic
I just got this pic off a website. It is from the trailer for the upcoming Star Wars: The Clone Wars series and I was wondering if we should use it. Any Thoughts? Vezz801 18:02, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The image is a bit too dark. Besides, I don't think there's enough room for images during that time period in the article. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 22:50, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Anakin's Clone?
There is fanon speculation that Anakin Skywalker's hand that was cut off in the battle agaist Dooku on Geonosis was taken, along with his lightsaber, by Darth Sidious' agents. Cells from the hand was used create a clone of Anakin...Kanian Skywalker. Irrelevant. Gustafar 12:57, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Crap fanon has no place on an article or its talk page -- [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|40px]] dmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 16:08, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

height and age
Is it really needed to put the height of when he was 9 and when he was 20? Sappose we did that for Obi-wan and Mace Windu, It wouldn't look right. I think we should just put it at when he was done growing. 24.208.55.168 00:56, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. I'll remove it. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 15:17, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Lightsabers
Shouldn't we remove some lightsaber pics? Personally, I find some really plasticky-looking, no offense to anyone.

Sith
Has anyone but me noticed that Vader, although making frequent notes about the power of the dark side, never called himself a Sith?
 * Yeah. He does a lot in books though.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 19:52, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Redirected from Vader
Shouldn't "Vader" have a disambiguation page, rather than directing straight here? It could refer to Darth Vader, I'm certain there were posessions or perhaps even a starship named after him and, in terms of other characters, it is also a call-sign of Wedge Antilles. 67.101.248.246 03:54, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, what about 'lady vader', and 'the glove of darth vader'?

Subpage
OK, I'm working on getting this article to FA status, though I'm doing it on a subpage. Namely, User:Thefourdotelipsis/Anakin. I'm going to need some help in areas, though, so when I come to a trouble spot, I'm going to list the sources I need info from here. If anyone has any of the sources and is willing to help, please, don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page, or on IRC. Thefourdotelipsis 11:20, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Episode I Adventures 5: The Ghostling Children
 * Episode I Adventures 6: The Hunt for Anakin Skywalker
 * Episode I Adventures 7: Capture Arawynne
 * Episode I Adventures 8: Trouble on Tatooine
 * Episode I Adventures 14: Podrace to Freedom
 * Episode I Adventures 15: The Final Battle

For those, I think I need info from both the storybooks and the game books. Also, if there are any other books from that series that Anakin is either mentioned or appears in, it'd be a great help if...well, if someone told me about it. Thanks in advance to anyone that might decide to lend a brother...or at least an unliked cousin, a hand. Thefourdotelipsis 11:20, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

The Birth of Anakin
I'm a Star Wars novice, relatively speaking, but here's a question - possibly a discussion question:

If Darth Plagus was able to influence the force to create life, and if Anakin Skywalker had no father, then is it assumed that Darth Plagus influenced the force to impregnate Shmi Skywalker with Anakin, making Plagus Anakin's defacto father?

71.198.62.92 14:31, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Expanded universe
I think the expanded universe portions of this article should be put under a seperate heading. I think the first part of the article should be about what is in the movies. Wondering if others will join me in putting expanded universe information in a seperate section after the information included in the movies. Things like Anakin's scar while fighting Ventress and Cato Neimodia and Quinlan Voss are all in the movies, so that should be included. The article needs serious editing.
 * Sorry, but that's not going to happen. Here at Wookieepedia, we don't differentiate between movie and EU information. But yeah, the article needs a good edit. A rewrite is currently being worked on by one of our most productive editors. --Imperialles 15:52, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I see. You are even pathetic enough (sorry) to include EU-stuff like Fosters Splinter of the Minds Eye although it is completely outdated for DECADES (at least since TESB). Yeah of course, vader fights against his known son with the clear intention to kill him. Don't care about canon just stuff anything in thats available. Why don't yur drop outdated sources which completely contradict the movies? I think it is time for a EU-crap-free alternative SW-wiki, this one became really annoying.
 * If we didn't care about canon, we'd be following your suggestion and dismissing valid sources solely because of personal dislike. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 13:24, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

To the OP and everyone else who doesn't like EU, last time I checked, Expanded Universe was cannon. Therefor totally valid. If George Lucas says EU is cannon, then it's cannon. Fans don't decide whats cannon, the creator does.

68.34.156.49 05:03, 21 January 2008 (UTC)Ryan


 * Cannon go boom!  Jasca Ducato Sith Council 12:11, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Tao Part Canon?
I don't know about you, but this part with Tao doesn't seem canon. I mean, a tusken beating Vader? Vader upset about this kids death (he should be, but he's a sith)? Is there a source for this?Maxi6 01:09, 11 December 2007 (UTC)Maxi6

Anyone can be hurt bad if the element of suprise is against them, and the evershifting variables of the universe give them no resources.

Clone wars space station?
In the game Clone Wars, in a cutscene, the Jedi are on a space station snd Mace Windu mentions something to ani about Mergisheer. What is Mergisheer? And what is the space station they are on?67.72.98.109 22:49, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Galactic Republic space station.  Jasca Ducato Sith Council 09:41, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Ankain- the strongest?
If ANikan was stronger the the empror, at the time of ROS, why did he los to Obi, he should have made quick work of him. And if Obi could beat him, why couldn't he beat Dooku
 * First of all, please sign your comments with a ~ . Secondly, please work on your grammar and spelling. Finally, Anakin was stronger than the Emperor in terms of raw Force strength; but Anakin lost to Obi-Wan because Obi-Wan was far more experienced than him. As for the Obi-Wan vs. Dooku duel, on Geonosis Dooku was still more talented and skilled than the young Jedi Master, as for the duel on the Invisible Hand, more than likely Palpatine was influencing the duel, so that Obi-Wan lost.  Jasca Ducato Sith Council 21:44, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

1 hand fighting style
"Vader developed a personalized version of Djem So[14][15], battling with one hand only while keeping the other slack at his side[16], a style that included elements of Ataru and Soresu[17]. It was resoundingly effective, both as a practical fighting style and a psychological weapon."

Is that really the case? It seems that Vader fought Luke with only 1 arm because Luke was so inexperienced. As soon as Luke started to improve his swordplay and became more aggressive, Vader began using 2 hands to counter him. Watch Empire Strikes Back again if you don't believe me.

68.34.156.49 02:55, 21 January 2008 (UTC)Ryan

Duel on Death Star
That was such a crap duel against Obi-Wan! Surely Darth Vader could have been more...better!? Who's with me people!?86.136.215.61 00:18, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Fighting style
Dear 68.34.156.49, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?


 * Gee I don't know. Maybe I'm talking about the quote I took from Anakin/Vaders page under lightsaber training. Right under the pic of him and Luke dueling on the Death Star, is that quote. Why don't u read it before u make out like I don't know what **** I'm talking about, u asshole!

68.34.156.49 20:30, 22 January 2008 (UTC)Love Ryan
 * Calm down or you guys will receive a short ban. No personal attacks.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 00:07, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Darth Vader
Why doesn't Darth Vader have his own article. I would have thought he would because he was a different character. Also, what's up at the top of the page?--UESPA 22:30, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Used to be on a different page but got merged after several arguments on the subject. And if you mean the funny blue URLs, they should be little icons but it isn't working at the moment. Green Tentacle (Talk) 22:38, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

New main quote?
"I've accepted the truth that you were once Anakin Skywalker, my father."

- Luke Skywalker

How does this sound? Lalala la 10:29, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It doesn't really tell us anything about the character. Nothing about his personality or talents. Still, the current one's not great, and we'd welcome a change if someone can find a good quote (though I doubt it, I'm sure people have already checked all the sources for quotes).  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 20:54, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Ahsoka

 * Shouldn't there be a mention that Ahsoka Tano was his Padawan while Anakin was still a Jedi Knight? Possibly under "Knighthood"? 63.64.127.15 22:44, 31 January 2008 (UTC)