Talk:New Jedi Order

See also Talk:New Jedi Order (disambiguation).

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Photo
Are there any better photos out there for the NJO? Kuralyov 22:53, 3 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * There's a picture on Jedi Academy that might work. -- SFH 22:59, 3 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Species
There are a couple there that are not so obvious. The Zabrak and Kel Dor are from JK:JA. Even when the charcter is another species you can see students from these races there, so there must be some out there. The Quarren is from Union and is unnamed. The Ithorian is from the NJOSB where it mentions Jedi born on Ithor, therefore an Ithorian. Eyrezer


 * I'd like to put this pic Image:JediCantina.JPG below the other one in the Species section but I cannot get them lined up without putting the list way off. Can someone help? Eyrezer 22:43, 16 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Vong Jedi? From where? Eyrezer 08:42, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Removed until sourced. -- SFH 22:07, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)


 * I hate to do it but I added Ewok. For the reason, see here from Geonosis and the Outer Rim Worlds Eyrezer 12:01, 17 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Jedi Members
We xshould have a list of all the Jedi in this order.
 * And so it was Eyrezer

In-Universe name?
What is the in-universe name for the new Jedi? It would be silly to have it as "New Jedi Order" because how long will it stay "new". Any ideas? Eyrezer
 * The New Republic didn't seem to mind the term. --SparqMan 09:26, 3 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * The New Republic is also referred to in-universe as just "the Republic" though. Eyrezer 01:32, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * The New Republic also said that it would become a New Republic in fact as well as name, and we all know how that turned out. However, Luke did call themselves a "new Jedi order" during his speech to the Jedi on Zonama Sekot after the Yuuzhan Vong War. -- SFH 01:36, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * If the capitalisation is correct, then the proper noun doesn't include new. Eyrezer 06:12, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Influence of Ossus
I found a note in Great Jedi Library very interesting regarding the linfuence of the library on Ossus on Skywalker's new order. What elements of the old "purer" order did he adopt versus the more bureacratic methods of the ultimate Old Republic order? --SparqMan 09:28, 3 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't think that comment in the Great Jedi Library is accurate, actually. For one, it's far too simplistic a statement. I've edited it accordingly, removing blatant POV terms such as "pure" and "worn out" QuentinGeorge 01:41, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * To answer your question, however, the state of the Order in the Clone Wars is the result of a gradual change that began around the time of the Sith War - around the time it officially adopted Odan-Urr's Jedi code, which would lead to the directive for Jedi to eschew material possession, attachment and excessive emotion. After the Great Sith War, the Jedi Temple was constructed; by the time of the Cleansing of the Nine Houses, the council had been formed; by the Jedi Civil War, marriage and the training of adults was beginning to be frowned upon, in the next centuries, centralization continued, and taking of simultaneous multiple apprentices were forbidden, and the Ruusan Reformation did away with the last vestiges of any of these earlier loopholes, and closes most of the remaining offworld academies (with the exception of Kamparas) - QuentinGeorge 01:52, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Mhm, I'm aware of what the "Coruscant Order" was like, but do we know of any old traditions/practices that Luke brought into his "Yavin IV Order" aside from allowing the things the late form Council forbade? --SparqMan 04:02, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * That's the thing. I don't think there's the connection there that some people think. Hell, by the Dark Nest Crisis, Luke has even reverted to one master/one padawan and Youngling clan style trainings. QuentinGeorge 06:18, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)
 * Guys, sorry for the POV. It seems I was thinking of Mace Windu at the moment... But Luke was influenced by the old order. In Dark Empire, he is seen reading all the ancient books. He was also aware of the teachings of the newer order, from Chu'unthor, but did away with the stupidities that had led to the Jedi's downfall, like the marriage rule and all the restrictive crap. --Master Starkeiller 13:09, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Yuuzhan Vong War
At the end of the war there was about sixty Jedi left...if you don't believe me count the Jedi at the end of The Unifying Force. User:RushinSundaws