Talk:Lumiya

Copyright
This article looks to be almost entirely (if not completely) copied from (Databank article). And according to the 'terms of use ' of the site,
 * Any use of any of the materials on this Site other than for private, non-commercial viewing purposes is strictly prohibited.

Certainly doesn't sound like it allows the material to be submitted to a wiki. --Maru


 * Added copyvio tag, but I don't know how to make the URL pretty. --Eion 18:44, 29 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Ok, so I noticed the copyright problem when I was researching Lumiya to write a wikipedia article- I'm gonna copy that over to the temp page; there are no copyright issues with that version, since all my contributions are public domain, and it includes no quotes or pics. --Maru

Naming
This should be at Shira Brie, shouldn't it? --QuentinGeorge 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * I thought that when faced with two semi-equal names, the convention was to go with the one the character used last, similar to using the last held rank/title. She began as Shira Brie, but became Lumiya. Is that incorrect? --SparqMan 00:05, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Correct, but "Lumiya" is technically a Sith name, like Darth Tyranus. The Ep3 Novel and VD state that  Dooku thought of himself solely as "Darth Tyranus" for the entire Clone Wars, yet we still have his page at Dooku. (Also, check out Revan and Malak). --QuentinGeorge 00:20, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * As an added note, I think we make an exception if their birth name is considered quite obscure (as in Padmé Naberrie or Mith'what'ever'it'is for Thrawn) --Fade 00:31, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * I realize the Dooku situation, but I guess the difference was that she completely abandoned Shira Brie when she became Lumiya, as Vader did with Anakin (except that he came back in the end). --SparqMan 00:35, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Not Darth
Excuse me for my complete unfamiliarity with the post-Endor era. (Actually, I have reasons for it, but never mind.) The quesion is: if Lumiya indeed followed the tradition of having a Sith alias, why isn't she a Darth? --Sikon 12:34, 29 Jul 2005 (UTC)


 * Not all Sith have the Darth title/name. --QuentinGeorge 21:57, 29 Jul 2005 (UTC)


 * I haven't seen her ever call herself Darth Lumiya or be called that by anyone else. --SparqMan 00:41, 30 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Lumiya isn't a Sith
Lumiya is no Sith Lady. She is a Dark Jedi. She may be a Sith underling like the ones the Sith used before the Rule of Two, but she definitely doesn't belong to the "Dark Lord" category. The Databank says nothing about Lumiya being a Sith. Her being a Sith Lady is merely a theory, it isn't canon. Her only canon connection to the Sith is the title she took without asking anyone and the few Sith tricks Vader showed her that he wasn't supposed to. Please do not mire the Wiki with theories that are not canon...T (unsigned comment by User:Starkeiller)


 * Well, the Databank entry does call her "Dark Lady", but the word Sith isn't used. Perhaps you have a point here. --Sikon 15:53, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)


 * --194.30.198.104 20:11, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)Leland Chee has stated that she is some kind of Sith. But not a Dark Lady of the Sith. The kind of underlings from before the Rule of Two. Like the guys training in the Sith Academy in K.o.t.O.R.. These were Sith, but not Dark Lords. The Dark Lords are always two, at certain times one, at others three, at others a couple. But their underlings were trained in some of the Sith arts. The Rule of Two was broken after the Emperor's death, but the Sith were extinct. The Sith that were always two; no more, no less, the full Sith, the Dark Lords. Not the "quasi-Sith" underlings, though.


 * Star Wars Gamer called her "Dark Lady of the Sith", hell, that was what she was labelled in her first appearance, in Marvel Star Wars. --QuentinGeorge 21:14, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)


 * PS, there is no Dark Jedi category here, so please don't put her in one. (That's why it's red, see?) QuentinGeorge 21:15, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)


 * Regardless, Lumiya wasn't a) A member of Bane's order and B) In Bane's order, sometimes the rules were circumvented: ie see Darth Millennial, and note that Sidious began training Maul BEFORE Plagueis died. --QuentinGeorge 21:27, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)


 * --194.30.198.109 01:00, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)Okay, but all this is just theories. Officially, there is no new Sith Order founded by Lumiya. She took the title without having been properly trained in the ways of the Sith. Officialy, she is not a real Dark Lady. That is all that matters. If she officialy becomes one, it can be added to the Wiki. Until then, no.