Talk:Code of the Sith/Legends

Origins
Though it might originate far earlier, we know this Sith Code was in use by the time of the Jedi Civil war, shouldn't there be a mention of it in the article? JC

What about this code of siths' philosophy found on wikipedia ? where have I to put it ?

Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hatred leads to power. Power leads to victory. Let your anger flow through you. Your hate will make you strong. True power is only achieved through testing the limits of one's anger, passing through unscathed. Rage channeled through anger is unstoppable. The dark side of the Force offers unimaginable power. The dark side is stronger than the light. The weak deserve their fate. –tenets of Sith philosophy

Behind the Scenes?
I don't have any kind of "source" for this, but isn't it possible that the Sith Code and the Sith philosophy, especially as portrayed in Knights of the Old Republic, is some sort of Star Wars interpretation of LaVeyan Satanism?

Check the according Wikipedia entry - a lot of beliefs mentioned there can be perfectly applied to how the Sith philosophy was described by those teaching at the Sith Academy on Korriban. LaVeyan Satanism supports personal growth and individualism which is mirrored in the Sith's constant search for personal power. LaVeyans favor hedonism over self-control just like the Sith who embrace their "passion" and unlike the Jedi who restrain and conquer them. Both LaVeyan Satanism and "Sithism" propose some kind of social darwinism, a survival of the fittest/most powerful.

The nine Satanic statements, as they're listed on Wikipedia, can easily be applied to Jedis and the Sith, for example the fifth one, which states "Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek" - exchange "Satan" with "The Sith" and you can pretty much sum up most beliefs held by the Sith.

I really don't know if this is mentioned elsewhere - I've checked some articles and couldn't find anything, so I'll simply assume it isn't included yet and thought I might as well mention it here.

By the way - I actually liked the way Knights of the old Republic tried to support the "bad guys" with a philosophy instead of simply portraying them as outright evil and therefore think this influence/parallels should be considered, just because it introduces some sort of "depth" that is somewhat rare when the antagonists of the Star Wars universe are discussed.

Darth Krayt Version?
Wasn't Darth Krayt the one who added "The force shall set me free."? If so, shouldn't it be mentioned that he changed it? —Darth Malevolous( Through power I gain victory. ) 23:45, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No Darth Bane used it too around 1000 BBY.Der3000er 18:01, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Code time-line
There is no peace, there is anger There is no fear, there is power There is no death, there is immortality There is no weakness, there is the Dark Side

This is the real code to me because it was the original code for the Order. I believe it can be found this way in the Dark Side Source book from Wizards of the Coast. and it's in the book Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter which I believe is "B" cannon and used by Darth Maul himself.

Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me

This is a code found originally (I believe) in KOTOR and the point of the code being in this format wasn't because it was better, but because it was a question and answer test in the Sith Academy. It was meant to build dynamically in a dialog situation. It more mirrors Yoda's warning to Anakin Fear Leads to anger, Anger to hate ... Which is not Jedi code but Jedi Wisdom. I never felt it held up as the opposing mirror image of the Jedi Code that the old Code was.

So in my opinion the new code although more universally accepted it an untrue and inaccurate version of the Sith Code used in the days before the Sith Order got the discipline that Bane gave it.

more on the meaning
[hey i hope this is where i'm sorpose to put this reqwest]

i reqwest more details on the meaning of not just the code itself,but each line like we see under the [Jedi Code} page.

hope someone out there can help

P.S please also give Sources,thanks (60mjh25)