Talk:Star Wars: Underworld

FOX
"It is possible that FOX or FX will carry it, as 20th Century Fox owns the Star Wars franchise." - I believe that last bit is incorrect. Lucasfilm owns the Star Wars franchise. They have contracted with 20th Century Fox to distribute the movies. (There was film industry speculation before the Phantom Menace that Lucas was planning on switching to Dreamworks SKG.) -- Austicke 10:31, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

New Wikipedia'd article
Now that this article has been overwritten by Adamwankenobi as a copy from Wikipedia but with various sections edited out, can someone compare this to the Wikipedia version and see if we need to add anything. -- Riffsyphon1024 01:52, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

TheForce.Net report
How accurate could that "TheForce.Net reports" section of the article be? The part I found strange was that it refered to the Jedi as "old-fashioned, pure & chaste Jedi" while the Jedi article says the Jedi were not chaste. This might seem like a dumb comment, but I just thought it was strange that TheForce.net would refer to the Jedi as "pure & chaste" when they apparently weren't. and I doubt the accuracy of their report.
 * That's the great thing about that section: we can report other people's reports, without them being assumed official or a fact. TFN is a pretty reliable source anyway, and anything they report is usually well-verified. Adamwankenobi 03:06, 28 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * That "report" is totally bogus. Kuralyov 03:12, 28 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh well. :( Adamwankenobi 03:19, 28 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Surely "Darth Teros" gave some clue as to this report's dubious validity? Sounds worse than SuperShadow - Kwenn 17:20, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Shot on consumer-level digital cameras?
The show will be shot on consumer-level digital cameras, according to series creator, George Lucas.

What does it mean? What does consumer-level digital cameras look like? And what does have to do with it? Amateurs?

I have no proof, but being in the broadcasting business, I did a bit of research, I came up with this as the most likely camera they would use: http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/DisplayModel?id=80897 --Apprentice_Anakin 05:42, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Most likely it means they'll be shooting on one of Sony's cheap HD cameras, in the sub-$10000 range. I don't like them myself..I'd more personally recommend a Panasonic HVX-200, all around better image. But meh :P And of course, the Red.com camera owns everything, ever.


 * Any example of a show which uses these cameras? Gustafar 21:37, 26 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I was surprised to read that they were going to use a consumer level camera. I don't think fans are going to be happy with the less than superb quality of that which we have seen from the films. These cameras do not have the capability to reproduce the richness of color that professional cameras offer. TrueJedi 14:02, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Ewan's involvment
When has Ewan stated that he'd be willing to make an appearance? I thought his enjoyment of being involved in the series dwindled... 71.114.96.84 19:36, 15 March 2006 (UTC) (Posted by Duke Starhopper - forgot to log in)
 * He apparently didn't like the excessive greenscreen work, but as a big Star Wars fan himself, I don't think he's become disillusioned or anything&mdash;not like Obi-Wan Senior, Sir Alec, who reportedly hated having his name connected with Star Wars - Kwenn 15:23, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Madonna?
Did anyone else see that Madonna could be apart of the show?--Dil 17:05, 1 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Remember that today is April Fools Day. Adamwankenobi 17:14, 1 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I see so it could be just a joke right?--Dil 21:02, 1 April 2006 (UTC)


 * It is a joke. Adamwankenobi 21:06, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

No Rebel victories?
Isn't this fan-conjecture with no official statements behind it? The opening crawl always said "Rebel spaceships, striking from a hidden base, have won their first victory against the evil Galactic Empire." This needn't mean anything other than fighters from a specific base winning their first battle. Since EU showed other pre-ANH wins as well, I'm going to remove it. VT-16 15:20, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

SuperShadow
Since when do we have to include SuperShadow's claims into our articles? - TopAce 09:25, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Never, never, never, never, never

Dissapointment
I am dissapointed over what I read in an interview with Rick McCallum over at ComingSoon.net http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=14365. According to him (about the show) "Think bounty hunter. That's all I can tell you. There's nobody else that you'll know [in it]."

We can easily assume that this will be Boba Fett. Of course that quote doesn't rule out appearances by surviving Jedi and the occasional cameos by Ewan or Yoda but I think I will miss some of the characters and events that should be in this (eg. Vader and the Purge, Prince Xizor, beginning of Yoda's exile.)

For more info on the 3D movies and Clone Wars show visit the link above.

66.176.13.157 23:27, 3 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Not necessarily. I quote McCallum from the ROTS DVD press conference last year: "We are just starting to interview writers and trying to really figure out which direction to go to. He envisions somewhere like 100 hours between Episode III and Episode IV with a lot of characters that we haven't met that have been developed in some of the novels and other things. We are really excited about that. Finally, we could have the opportunity to answer everybody's questions once and for all by the time we finish the series." Adamwankenobi Talk to me! My home. 23:30, 3 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Does anyone know whether or not Quinlan Vos is going to get some screen time in this? I'd be real interested to see what his final fate was, maybe with that meeting of a young Han Solo that was described on Quinlan Vos. It would be a dissapointment to me...The Ravager 02:09, 19 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Well Lucas seems to like the character, and given that he reads the comics, it's a good bet Quinlan will show up in some form or another in the series. Adamwankenobi Talk to me! My home. 02:31, 19 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't think it has to be Boba... what about people like Aurra Sing? She still counts. Maybe she's out exterminating Jedi. Piequals3 06:23, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

G or C
Does anyone have any idea what level of canon the 2nd and future seasons would be? It is cirten that the first season will be G with Lucas's role in the first season, however that leaves the future seasons cannon level shadey and is confuseing wether it will be be G or C? DX-2052 21:28, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * G-canon, I'd assume, since Lucas is directly involved. Also, I think the canon level would apply to the whole project, as defined from the outset - Kwenn 21:31, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Its basically a load of mini-movies, so it would be G-Canon. Jasca Ducato 20:14, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It'll be C. I base this on the fact that Lucas also had direct involvement with the Ewok films, and they are considered C. Adamwankenobi Talk to me! My home. 20:18, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry for the n00by question, but what exactly is the difference between G & C level canon? Or can someone give me a link to an article on it? Thanks in advance. 81.157.112.69 18:41, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Canon. Basically, G-canon is anything directly from Lucas, C-canon is pretty much everything else, other than Infinities. Of course, it depends on how involved Lucas is with this series. I think if he writes it, it'll be G - Kwenn 18:49, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks :) Calaros 18:52, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

2006?
I heard (recently) that the show is being released this fall. Any confirmation on this? Skywalka 11:08, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Impossible. They haven't even started production, much less finalized any scripts for it. -- Riffsyphon1024 09:13, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Anime?
About a year ago, I read an Animation Magazine article in which the Star Wars live-action TV series was mentioned, as well as Lucas' desire to operate in anime. I have heard no word of the matter ever since. Does anyone know more on this subject? Could a Star Wars anime be far, far away? It would definitely be awesome. MC Otaku 10:08, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Isn't this technically being tackled already by anime books? -- Riffsyphon1024 09:13, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * And Star Wars: Clone Wars is anime, even though anime and manga are considered the same anymore. supergeeky1 [[Image:BobaFett.jpg|20px]] The Cantina 19:42, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

neither are anime. anime means it was made in japan it doesnt refer to any style at all. so if it is made in america it means its just a normal cartoon. just because it looks anime doesnt mean it is. Ralok 01:08, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * There is Star Wars Manga however. --  Riffsyphon  1024 16:46, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

GL tells Mtv
"None of the Skywalker story, none of that stuff is in there, " he explained, shooting down any depiction of a young Han Solo acquiring the Millennium Falcon or running with Lando Calrissian. "It's completely different. The animated series has got all the characters in it. The one that comes after, the live-action one, is with people who were in 'Star Wars, ' but they're not the main characters."

Lucas said the plot will be steered by characters such as Tie-Fighter or Rebel pilots, most only briefly glimpsed in the six "Star Wars" films." TFN "GL talks to Mtv about Live-Action Series


 * That makes it sound like the story of Rogue Squadron GMo 16:44, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, it does seem so. -- Riffsyphon1024 21:34, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Fascinating. Adamwankenobi 21:39, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Is anyone not enthralled by Rogue Squadron or bounty hunters? I personally would rather see Jedi and dissenting milatary officers as the main characters, and I admit that some bounty hunters being tossed in would be nice. I was really hoping it would be aimed at escapees and runaways. Purpilia 00:08, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

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 * http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/swexperience/toyfair2007/hasbro/pages/01intro-008.html Inigo Montoya 03:50, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Cast
Good news everyone, Anthony Daniels has signed on to appear as C-3PO in the Star Wars TV Show! supergeeky1 The Cantina 19:11, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * What's your source, Supergeeky? If this is legit, it belongs in Wookieenews too, I'd say. Gonk 19:16, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I first got it off of Wikipedia, but they got the source from http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_1763134.html. supergeeky1 [[Image:BobaFett.jpg|20px]] The Cantina 19:20, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * And yet SW.com hasn't updated with this? 'Cause it seems big to me. Suspiciously big. Could this be another case of Internet rumormongering a la "Kenneth Branagh is Obi-Wan!!"? Gonk 19:22, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Reverted. We really should have seen some corroboration SOMEwhere about this. But if you did in fact scoop everyone else in the SW community, we can always put it back! Gonk 23:12, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It's on Wikipedia, does that mean we're gonna have to take it off of that too? I think we should put it back in unless we get official conformation against it.  It's not like SuperStupid said it, it was, what looks like, a realiable source. supergeeky1 [[Image:BobaFett.jpg|20px]] The Cantina 01:48, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Lack of official confirmation against doesn't simply confirm it to be true. -- Ozzel 01:53, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The Ananova article refers to the London Daily Mirror, which IIRC was also the erroneous source of the rumor that Harrison Ford had been approached by Lucas about a sequel trilogy. Methinks the Mirror is in the habit of this sort of disinfo. Gonk 02:14, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

http://iesb.net/index.php?option=com_xevidmegafx&Itemid=139&func=detail&id=259

Clone Wars?
He says it's during the Clone Wars... Then it's between ep I and II... Explenation please? This is from March 3rd so it's pretty recent... Gustafar 17:18, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Different series. The live-action series will be set between III and IV, what George Lucas was talking about was the new 3D Clone Wars series. As to why he said it's between I and II, even the great creator is allowed to make a mistake every once in a while. Green Tentacle (Talk) 17:23, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I thought he was talking about the 3D Clone Wars, but they asked for the "television series" quite simply. Oh well. Thanks mate. Gustafar 18:48, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Rumors and speculation section
I think that most of this section should be deleted. Where are these rumors coming from? Message boards? Many of the "rumors" are written as facts and that is misleading. For example it says it is likely that Fox will air the show. I don't think that's necessarily true at all. I say reword most of the points to make it clear that they are rumors/fan theories and either source them all or delete them.  - breathesgelatin Talk 09:44, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. And we don't need to keep fan theories on the main page. I'm gonna be bold and delete all of them except the "according to Rick McCallum" one, which does indeed still need a source.  Gonk  ( Gonk! ) 11:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Correction. Someone else should be bold to that effect. (I forgot the page was locked! By my request! Tee hee...)  Gonk  ( Gonk! ) 11:42, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
 * OK. I think we are on the same page. I am going to delete the rumors except for the Rick McCallum one. If you would like to put them back, PROVIDE SOURCING. My concern generally with the "rumors and speculation" sections is that they can be valid, but a lot of times I feel like people just use that section to include their own personal fan theory rather than citing actual theories put forth by fans, at say, theforce.net forums.  - breathesgelatin Talk 18:46, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It seems you already succeeded in doing so. Awesome.  - breathesgelatin Talk 18:55, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

George Lucas' 400
400 episodes. By my humble estimates, that could well mean twenty years of SW on TV. Twenty years! Before this, I was convinced it would be possible to someday finish this Wiki, seeing as 30 years of SW has been quite well covered in what, three years of Wookieepedias existence? But this...we'll never be finished. DarthMRN 02:46, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * And we will keep going until it dies, which is basically never!! :D --  Riffsyphon  1024 07:05, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Truly finishing would be extremely difficult to manage anyways. Besides, covering 20 years in 20 years will be easier than covering 30 years in 2.5 years. If anything, the longer Star Wars goes on, the better our position will be (in terms of completeness) when it finally does end. Finally, I will be surprised if 400 episodes actually get made. --LtNOWIS 07:53, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * He was talking about there being multiple TV shows. He might have meant 400 episodes in total among all the planned shows. I don't think anyone here seriously thinks that this live-action show will last as long as Doctor Who. Kuralyov 21:22, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well he said that there would be multiple stories focusing on the different characters. What if there are four shows/episodes a week? Bioevil087  ( Mara’s Ex )[[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] 05:06, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I never thought about that. --  Riffsyphon  1024 05:08, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Exactly. We've got to keep in mind that Lucas does his own thing, and often differs from Hollywood. ;) Adamwankenobi 23:14, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, you have to remember...this is Rick McCallum. Anything he says should probably be taken with a barrel of salt. Kuralyov 22:15, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Assuming there is one continuous series airing for 400 episodes, the number might not be as far-fetched as it sounds. As mentioned above, having multiple shows each week could make it a high-volume show (the first season of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers had over 60 episodes during its initial run in 1993), while a weekly run gives a broad range of possibilities ranging from 20+ (26 episodes, one per week running continuously for half the year, for most Star Trek incarnations; vs. 10-15 for shows like The Sopranos). By all of these calculations, a broad number like 400, assuming it comes true, could mean any number of things.

Timeline
I think it shouldn't imply that it starts exactly 19bby and finishes in 0, it probably takes place more in the middle and might actually start a bit before and end after. Basically, unless it's been clearly specified, we should probably say approximately 19bby-0bby. 213.94.241.249 22:34, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I've reworded it to make it sound less like that. Adamwankenobi 23:11, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

No Vader, Palpatine, or Jedi...
According to Lucas in the September 24-30 issue of TV guide magazine, page 22: "The Emporer and Darth Vader are heard about &mdash;people talk about them&mdash;but you never see them" Then in the next sentence he says: "There are stormtroopers and all that, but no Jedis".

So all the speculation about Palpatine, Vader, and Jedi such as Yoda, Obi-wan and Quinlan Vos making cameos in the series seems to be false, since Lucas told TV guide that There won't be any Jedi in the series, and that the Emporer and Vader won't appear either. Someone should add this information to the article. 70.17.140.6 20:22, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * GL would never say Jedis. This information must be fake. - TopAce (Talk) 20:57, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I copied it exactly the way it was written in TV guide magazine. check out the issue yourself if you want proof. 70.17.140.6 21:05, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The reason TopAce doubts GL having said this is because Lucas refers to the plural of "Jedi" as "Jedi", not Jedis". I know that may seem a small issue but lucas wouldn't make a mistake like that unless he's control of his mind. TrueJedi 23:14, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

70.17.140.6 21:38, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Here's proof that it's authentic. I scanned that page of TV guide:
 * Dude... ;_; The show is going to have to be damn good to do well as a Star Wars vehicle with absolutely no Jedi. Livingston [[Image:Jedi Order2.jpg|25px]] ( The Force will be with you. Always. ) 06:04, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't trust such magazines, at least not as much as believing every single sentence they write/quote. - TopAce (Talk) 14:56, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Apparently Kuralyov trusts what TV guide says, because he added the information (and the exact George Lucas quote) from that issue of TV guide magazine to the article. 151.203.188.217 03:41, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Just a thought. should we include this is the article?
 * I would say no as it's not from an official Lucas source. TV guide may be a bit more reputable than other magazines, but not by much. If anything I would simply mention it in the behind the scenes section.-- Livingston [[Image:Jedi Order2.jpg|25px]] ( The Force will be with you. Always. ) 07:09, 17 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Guys, remember that even if it's Lucas saying this, it's bound to change when people simply aren't intertested in watching a SW series that lacks Jedi or any of the other elements that fans so dearly love. Lucas changed Jar Jar around so much because of fan and non-fan reaction and he often contradicts himself so I wouldn't worry about it. I would bet that we're going to see exactly what we want because otherwise the show will simply fail without the elements that made us love the saga in the first place. TrueJedi 14:08, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Joben et al
Can we remove the AICN bit now? Seems to me McCallum's recent revelations&mdash;specifically that every character is new except Boba Fett&mdash;strongly suggest that particular report is, well, fanon.  Gonk  ( Gonk! ) 10:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Context
"... a whole bunch of writers from literally all over the world – we have Australia left, that’s the last place we’re going to meet some people..."
 * What context is that meant to be in? "That's the only place left"? "As if we'll find anyone there?" Giga Hertz 11:22, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I thought it simply meant, Australia is the last place where we're going to meet some people. --  Riffsyphon  1024 06:29, 31 December 2007 (UTC)