Talk:Darth Malak/Archive2

Jaw Injury
I'm surprised there isn't a section for this already. Is there any cannon material stating how Malak got his Jaw injury yet? Last I knew, it was unknown, is that still the case? I guess I can assume so, but if anyone has any information otherwise, please state it, if only to help other people who will inevitably ask this question later. Jawajoey 07:27, 11 June 2007 (UTC) That was an awkward way of saying it, but, I guess it's canon now...*sigh* Revan211 22:02, 2 September 2007 (UTC) Alright, unless there are any reasons not, I'm going to change the article to reflect this new information. Revan211 01:07, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The StarWars.com Databank says he lost it to a lightsabre, but it doesn't say who's or how. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 12:26, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=15158.150 Scroll down to the second post, and it is revealed that Revan was the one who cut off his jaw.--Sith Alchemy 101 15:51, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * We should really wait until someone can actually verify that the final product has been released and that it includes the text shown. However, I don't feel strongly enough about it to revert the changes again&hellip;– 06:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Nevermind. Insider 88 provides confirmation.– 00:43, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Odd parenthetical remark
"But by taking the path of the dark side (which ironically Revan started him down in the first place) he lost that respect and friendship he once had in a mad quest for power—trading it in for fear, hatred, and eventually death." (from the page currently)

The parenthetical remark about Revan starting Malak down the path to the dark side seems odd, especially given that the article discusses Malak taking full responsibility for his own actions just before this sentence. Malak may have followed Revan but he followed of his own free will, and his own musings before his death confirm it. I think this parenthetical remark ought to be removed. I am editing it out for now but I will keep the quote here in case it is ultimately decided that it should still be used. --Israi 04:32, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Malak -> Darth Malak?
Because everyone knew them as Malak and Revan before the Sith rise. Darthan the destroyer 02:13, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * In accordance to other Sith? What about Dooku, Palpatine and Kreia? Darth Kevinmhk 00:14, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Have a look at the naming policy. Unless the were publically known as something else during their time as a Sith (like the aforementioned 3), a Sith's article goes at his "Darth" name, just like Darth Vader, Darth Bane, Darth Zannah, Darth Millennial, Darth Cognus, Darth Ruin and the rest. QuentinGeorge 00:24, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * What about Revan? - Sikon [ Talk ] 16:41, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Revan returned to the light side before his death, and (unless we get contradictory info in KOTOR 3) abandoned "Darth" for the remainder of his life. -BaronGrackle 21:04, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Besides, with the exception of Darth Zannah, all the sith you mentioned were renamed, taking on a sith name different from their real names. Malak added Darth to his name. Jedi Wolf 5:42, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Just out of curiosity, where does it say that Revan and Malak never changed their names when they turned to the dark side and became Darth Revan and Darth Malak? Vagrant Saint 14:41, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Cyborg?
Shouldn't cyborg be in parentheses next to Human?--Darth Oblivion 04:05, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * He's got one prosthetic....that doesn't make him a cyborg any more than Luke's mechanical hand made him one - lalala_la
 * Ironically, the Luke Skywalker article states him as being a cyborg too. :-P -- I need a name 21:31, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
 * He is a cyborg in the strictest terms, but not in the way most people would imagine a cyborg in Sci-Fi terms dictionary definition
 * All that is required to be a cyborg is that an entity is part organic and part synthetic. Vader was a cyborg. Luke as a cyborg. Malak was a cyborg. Simple as that. Afterall, it only takes a shred of either integrated to the other to make an entity a cyborg; not necessarily mostly mechanical. Heck, I regularly call old men with pacemakers cyborgs too. For that matter, how can we be totally sure how much of Malak is or isn't prosthetic? Has anyone seen him completely without his suit in later life? Its safe to assume that due to the physically distorting effects of the Dark Side of the force, that those not strong enough in direct control of the force to compensate for such effects (e.g. Palpatine / Sidius seemed capable of managing without technological aid) would resort to cybernetics instead to patch themselves up. (~ SotiCoto)

Malak is no Cyborg. Hes not like Vader, and has to have the Machanical parts on him to keep himself alive.Darthan the destroyer 22:50, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 23:11, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


 * He is still not dependant on it, although, yes he does use it. Darthan the destroyer 20:53, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

What The??!
"An Easter egg in the ending of Knights of the Old Republic allows the player to transform Malak into a green-skinned Twi'lek Dancer and skip the final battle." when, how, what! Jedi Dude 17:43, 22 August 2006 (UTC)


 * The "easter egg" is this: First, you have to be in the room before the final room where Darth Malak awaits. (I believe its the room with all the Star Forge droids and the "puzzle" you have to solve to get them to quit spawning.) After completing the puzzle and destroying all the droids, head to the door Malak went through but don't open it or go through it. (I recommend saving the game here before you do the trick.) Also, make sure you have another controller plugged into Port 4 (as well as your controller in Port 1). Press the L Trigger, R Trigger, and the Y Button on both controllers. Your character will pull out his/her lightsaber, but that does not indicate the trick worked. (Jedi/Sith characters always ignite their lightsaber when the Y-button is pushed.) But, to find out, go through the door and talk to Malak. If it worked, you'll know. If not, reload the save game and try again. Matadore 9:37, 30 September 2006 (EST)

Can someone put up a picture of this? Darth Animus

Is there any way to do this on the PC version? STar war spUNK 14:45, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Bastila's Battle Meditation
''But the true reason Malak chose Bastila for his apprentice was the unimaginable advantages the Sith Empire could gain from her Battle Meditation. ''

I'm no KotOR expert, but this looks like speculation to me. What is the source? - Angel Blue 451 17:41, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Nah. It's right on. He says it himself "I'm far more interested in the young jedi Bastila and her Battle Meditation" -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Uglykotoricon.svg|15px]] 17:44, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, my mistake. - Angel Blue 451 17:48, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Darth Malak's height
Hey! Who always changes Malak's height?! Darth Malak is 2 meters tall (6'6 3/4" approx.) and I think that it is vandalism to change Malak's height to 2.02 meters because www.wikipedia.org also says that Darth Malak is 2 meters tall. So please guys, look for informations about his height. Thank you. No, 2 meters is not wrong. I've got an information book about Knights of the old republic and there it is written that Malak stands 2 meters (6' 6 3/4") in height and wikipedia.org also says that Malak is 2 meters tall. Is that 2 metres tall with or without his suit? For that matter, I'm not sure how much of his suit is actually integrated to his body, and whether its a part of him or not. I am tending to believe though that Malak may have been born a shorty and decided to compensate for it by technological means. Speculatothon! =P (~ SotiCoto)
 * Wikipedia is not a canonical Star Wars source, it's a third-party source that isn't always accurate (neither are we). The Databank, however, is a canonical source, and it indeed states Malak's height as 2 meters, so whoever is changing it to 2.02 is wrong. As for changing the height, it isn't vandalism, it's fanon. - Sikon 15:23, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, the Databank says you're right. -LtNOWIS 06:06, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Flaming lightsaber?
Is it just me or does Malak's lightsaber trail flames when he does certain attacks? It looks ridiculously like the Doom Guards' swords in Warcraft III -_- - lalala_la

Delete this. This makes no sense. I banish you toooo, Alabama! Darthan the destroyer 02:16, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Behind the Scenes Errors
In the "Behind the Scenes" section, the "author" talks about the Jedi Exile's encounter with Malak in the Secret Tomb in the Shyrack Cave on Korriban. The author states that Malak weilds a purple lightsaber, and that only occurs in the XBOX version. This is extremely false... as you notice a lot of information on Wookieepedia/Wikipedia is. (Made-up, author "artistic license", whatever you want to call it, its not the facts.) Truth is, Malak weilds a red lightsaber, just as he does in Knights of the Old Republic. I've played through Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords twelve times on the XBOX, and each time Malak's lightsaber has been red. So, that needs to be edited. Matadore 9:54, 30 September 2006 (EST)
 * Feel free to edit it yourself if you want, no-one will stop you. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) [[Image:Revanchist_Sith.svg|20px]] 13:57, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Abilities Section
We use to have one for Malak. What happened to it?


 * Sign your name and we'll tell you. Darthan the destroyer 20:55, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, now I'm interested... where did it go? And to really nice I'll even sign. -Kath.Hound 05:29, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Probably deleted it because it was no real use in the arcticle. If you want, you can make a new one. no one will stop you. Darthan the destroyer 15:04, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Intro
Does anyone else think that the new intro is rather bloated?– 02:03, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry Imperialles, I could have stated that better. The new introduction was well written, but it was just really long.– 20:52, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Cropping the Image
What would everyone think if I cropped the infobox image down a bit or more? -- Redemption Talk 23:32, 23 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Cropped is good. .  .  .  .  23:35, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * ^ ^ ^ What he said. - Yoshi626 01:27, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I like both cropped images. I think we should go for number 2 though.(Ulicus 18:53, 5 November 2006 (UTC))
 * A source for the image would be awesome. --Imp 18:59, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I couldn't find it on Gamespot&mdash;do you have a more specific link? =) --Imp 19:31, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, found it. --Imp 19:33, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry, not very precise. *shrug* -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Uglykotoricon.svg|15px]] 19:47, 5 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I cant see the first picture. I guess it IS a better one than the second. Darthan the destroyer 20:56, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Changed some things...
Hey, I changed some things, mostly the grammar and some spelling. I would like someone to go in after me to look over it, as I'm sure I forgot some things. I didn't change any of the context, although I did change some wording as it a few sentances seemed unclear, or there was an easier and less wordy way to say them. Thanks! (By the way, I changed it a few days ago and wanted to wait to read it again to see if I could catch anything I missed!) China 21:09, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Not a cyborg?
So, the term (cyborg) gets removed from Malaks infobox...why? It's obvious that Malak has cybornetic implants in his throat. Luke keeps his cyborg, why not Malak? -- Redemption Talk 23:28, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * "Cyborg" is not a species.– 23:35, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Did I say it was? Luke has Human (cyborg) in his species. Malak can't have Human (cyborg)? -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Uglykotoricon.svg|15px]] 23:37, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * What is the point in adding it? It is not like Malak was always a cyborg and anyone who looks at his picture can tell that he became one. The information is superfluous and it could confuse people.– 23:42, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay. Greivious should also have it removed. And as should eye and hair color. I mean, it's not like people can't tell that Han Solo has brown hair...Poor argument. It doesn't matter if it's "superfluous". Malak was a cyborg and cyborg goes into his infobox. And if people are confused (I'm not sure how...) then it's their problem and they should read the article. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Uglykotoricon.svg|15px]] 23:45, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * My problem is that you are adding the word "cyborg" to the "species" field. Being a cyborg has absolutely nothing to do with the character's species. Secondly, as I said before, Malak was not always a cyborg. Honestly, this isn't a big deal. Revert my edit if you want, but I just think it creates a bias when you add information to a character's infobox that only applies to a very short period of their life. – 23:55, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Because then you aren't completely human. You are a modified human, therefore, you aren't completely human. Your "part machine". And it doesn't matter how long the person in question was a cyborg. By the end of their life, he was a cyborg. End of story. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Uglykotoricon.svg|15px]] 00:00, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Is it really necessary to add a phrase like "End of story'" to your post? It doesn't add any weight to your argument and it can be construed as a form of intimidation.&mdash; 00:34, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay. You going to ban me for it then since that would really "help" your arguement...-- Redemption Talk [[Image:Uglykotoricon.svg|15px]] 00:49, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Let it go, this conversation was over quite some time ago. I already told you to do what you want. I simply don't care enough either way.– 01:04, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Then you should've left it there in the first place. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Uglykotoricon.svg|15px]] 01:06, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * For people with a problem with wanting to put cyborg in the info box, why not put it in a 'points of interest' bit like on the location info boxes. HavetStorm 17:37, 11 November 2006 (UTC)


 * It seems that Malak does fit in the cyborg catagory (since he has a cybernetic implant that obiviously helps him in some way - I had to look it up to be sure) and it seems the only logical place to put it would be the species part - it isn't a species, but there is no current place for it yet. It could be put in paranthesis and the implant stated, or if too many, then stated "see below in article". This should be standard for all articles, even Luke Skywalker's so there won't be any conflict or confusion. China 03:39, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
 * You guys are forgetting about people who might be color blind out there. They might want to know what someones eye/hair color looks like, and maybe the cybernetics may look more like a skin?
 * What the hell are you talking about? -- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|20px]] Talk 22:26, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Dude, chill out!! Malak isn't a true Cyborg. Neither is Luke. Vader is. A cyborg is someone who needs the robotics to live. As seen in a movie on KotOR, Malak doesn't need it. He can take it off. Its just, people don't wanna see a guy with his mouth missing talking to them. Darthan the destroyer 02:20, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

"Darth"
Clearly, there is an issue here. I suggest the title be changed to "Malak", with a redirect for a search entry of 'Darth Malak'. Bredd13 02:02, 12 December 2006 (UTC) I would say that because the game put enough emphasis that Malak was a fallen Jedi who wasn't a Sith Lord for all his life (same goes for Revan) we should just go ahead and take out the "Darth" Lalala la 18:34, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm curious; why is this article entiled "Darth Malak" while Darth Revan's article is entiled "Revan". (This is a rhetorical question, in case you can't tell.)
 * And now I see that this has been a topic before. In any case, the suggestion remains; even though Malak was Darth Malak and Revan was redeemed, in the lightside (canonical) ending, Malak was redeemed in the end. Also, he wasn't always Darth Malak, and should not be called so in all cases. This article deals with his whole life, not one career change. Bredd13 02:08, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Malak was not redeemed at the end of KotOR. He just died admitting his failures. And, as mentioned on the Revan talk page, the article is entitled with the last known name of the character. [[Image:DarthAbeonisSig2.gif|Jasca Ducato]] Sith Council Sith Campaign 11:30, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, we may have to have some sort of consensus discussion or vote. Because that whole "last known name" thing isn't holding very well on the Kreia/Traya talk page. -BaronGrackle 23:47, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I can see the point that Malak may not have been redeemed; however, Malak was his given name, unlike Darth Bane which was an assumed name. Malak never took on an alias. Also, Darth Malak was commonly called "Malak" even as a Sith Lord. Others were always refered to "Lord" or "Darth", with the exception of Vader (although this matter has not been settled, and the Darth Vader article at this time does not exist). Bredd13 22:43, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
 * It doesn't really matter if Malak was his birth name as well as his Sith name, what matters is that he added the Darth to it, and died with the Darth on his name. [[Image:DarthAbeonisSig2.gif|Jasca Ducato]] Sith Council Sith Campaign 11:38, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh? What is specifically the last name that said character is referred to by? Since Revan was the last to see Malak alive, and if I recall rightly Revan didn't tend to use the Darth title with his former apprentice, I would guess that the last time Malak was addressed was likely without the Darth title. Furthermore, I have every reason to believe that with or without actual redemption, Malak essentially gave up his title (and status as Sith) before he died. It seems to simply be semantics in any case. (~ SotiCoto)
 * "Also, Darth Malak was commonly called "Malak" even as a Sith Lord." This is a more common practice than you seem to believe it to be. You acknowledge the same happens to Vader but no one else, but what are our other examples? Maul... no one knows his Darth name. Tyranus... few know his Darth name (Jango has no problem eliminating the "Darth", if only to confuse Obi-Wan), and that's it. "Darth" or "Lord" is omitted when unnecessary, usually when the speaker is of greater than or equal rank to the person or when the person is not present (the Emperor always uses "Lord", of course). That's how we treat all titles; it's nothing special. If we start heading this direction, we may as well eliminate all "Darths" from article names, as we do with "Grand Moff" or "Emperor". -BaronGrackle 18:58, 21 December 2006 (UTC)


 * sigh* do you understand what you are saying? Darth Malak DIED as Darth Malak. Vader DIED as Darth Vader. Revan was brought back to the light, thereby incinerating the fact that he was a Sith. Darthan the destroyer 02:22, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup
I've gone over the Intro, Early Life and Jedi Knight sections as a part of the cleanup. I will probably move onto expanding/tidying up the Dark Lord of the Sith section tommorrow. If there are any problems with what I've done so far then give me a shout. (Ulicus 23:56, 12 December 2006 (UTC))
 * Ok, I ended up focusing on Mandalore the Ultimate instead. I'll probably come back to this later. I'm all edited out at the minute... (Ulicus 19:53, 14 December 2006 (UTC))

Gallery of pics
I think that we should create a gallery of Malak images. We have enough pictures of him to create one, so why don't we? Telos 02:48, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * They've already got one on Portuguese Star Wars Wiki: -LtNOWIS 02:58, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * But we need one for English. I can't speak Portuguese and up until now I didn't even know a Portuguese Star Wars wiki existed. Telos 03:02, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Sith
Most starwars fans agree that Darth Malak is tight. Why couldn't the sith in KOTOR2 be this tight

Because of Chuck Norris Darthan the destroyer 22:52, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I was unaware many Star Wars fans were sexually attracted to Darth Malak. Lord Patrick 23:38, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Haha. The ally of the Greys is a comedian. Darthan the destroyer 00:09, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Death
I'm taking out the part someone put in about "Revan never truly fell blah blah blah" since it is done poorly and, as far as I know, that is not considered cannon. I'm putting back what was originally there. S W Is For Life 22:18, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Bastila did not lead the strike team that captured Revan
She was merely part of the strike team, it is not mentioned in the game that she "led" the team that captured Revan. She was only a padawaan so it's highly unlikely she would be in charge of such an important mission. What exactly is this doing in the Darth Malak page? -Kath.Hound 05:49, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * That is correct. Here is what Bastila, herself, said: "It's true that, due to my Battle Meditation, I was with the Jedi strike team that boarded Revan's ship." Karohalva 17:11, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Bah. See Talk:Jedi Civil War.– 06:16, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Figurine?
I have heard various speculation, and seen it listed on fan websites, that a Darth Malak Action figure will be released as part of the Celebration IV in wave V of the 2007 line of action figures? Does anyone know if there is any truth to this?

Yes its true theres a picture of it on my user page, and also remember to sighn your comments with four tidles.--\\Captain KickAssJedi// 18:28, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Eye Color?
If you watch the game carefully, Malak's eyes are blue, not brown. Look in the scene right after you fight Calo Nord.

Sith Lightsaber
The article says Malak's lightsaber hilt is identicle to a shoto, however a player indced glitch in the game which forces Malak to become non hostile gives you a good chance to look at his lightsaber and its actually completely unique.--\\Captain KAJ// 19:54, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Jedi Guardian?

 * This could be just game mechanics, but having just played through it again, I noticed that Malak used Force Jump a few times in the final confrontation. In KOTOR this is restricted to Guardians, so could Malak have been a Guardian class Jedi? Giga Hertz 03:34, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Violet Lightsaber?
O.K., guys, I know that in the strategy guide for the second game there's a lightsaber called "Malak's Lightsaber", but I've beaten the game a million times on the X-Box version, & not only have I never found that 'saber, but he NEVER uses a violet 'saber in the vision with the Exile. He always uses a red one. Now this may be a bug, considering the cyan color in the game won't work properly for me, but is there a source for this?--Jedi Kasra 01:47, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Products subsection
I was thinking that this article could do with a products subsection. HK-47 has one, and all he has is a miniature. Malak's got a miniature, and action figure and even a mini-bust. So what do you think?--Sith Alchemy 101 18:05, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

New photo
I wish to see if there is room to add a new image into the article, although there seems to be no room for it. It's from the upcoming Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force from StarWars.com.  Victor  ( talk ) 00:53, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Alek and The Revanchist?
Hey guys...i'm not sure what is going on...but someone came in and messed with the article..adding Alek in place of Malak's name and The Revanchist or something in place of Revan. I'm gunna try to fix it....I just thought I'd let you guys know. I'm really confused actually....a lot of stuff seems to have been cut and pasted from other articles, mainly from Alek Squinquargesimus. I'm going to take all that stuff out. If it really is supposed to be there, I'm sorry. I've just never heard of Malak as Alek Squinquargesimus.

GrayFox814 06:44, 28 November 2007 (UTC)GrayFox814
 * Please don't touch it. Read this first. QuentinGeorge 06:57, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Okay, you win. Alek is Malak. I thought those two non identical twins. But there's just one itsy bitsy problem... What happened to his eye color?!? How did they turn from blue to brown? It just isn't right! Somebody in the comic buisness is gonna pay for this outrage! Who's with me?!? - Will Karner 10:07 A.M., 28 November 2007

Noboady. Go away. - Lord KAJ  – Company Office 19:27, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Alek and The Revanchist?
Ive read the Knights of the old republic hand book, it has a page on Alek and The Revanchist but it doesnt give any conection to Revan And Malak. Plus revan and malak are said to of NOT changed there names when the became sith.

The fact the Alek is Malak is revealed in Jedi vs Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force. There is a massive notice at the top of the page for crying out loud. - Lord KAJ  – Company Office 22:00, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Merge with Alek
When do we merge Malak with Alek, dudes? When? When? When? WHEEEEEEEEEEEN?!? - Will Karner 7:53 A.M., 29 November 2007
 * The article has already been merged. If you mean redirecting the other article here, that will be done in about a month or so, when the spoiler period is over. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 14:18, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Reason for betrayal
I think Malak had much more bigger motives for betraying Revan than just knowing treachery was a Sith way:

1. Revan cut off Malak's lower jaw.

2. Revan failed to know the true powers of the Star Forge.

3. Malak was jealous of Revan always being the leader while he gets to be the sidekick.

Revenge, disappointment, jealousy. Those are very good reasons, huh? What are your opinions for reasons? - Will Karner 6:46 P.M., 6 December 2007
 * '''This is the talk page for the article "Darth Malak."

This space is used for discussion relating to changes to the article, not for a discussion about the topic in question. -- Redemption  (Talk) 02:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)


 * How many more times do you need to be told to stop posting this tripe. Im sorry but he needs to be banned he's done it to many times. - Lord KAJ  – Company Office 17:58, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Quote Change
O.K. Can we please change this quote? I have played through The Sith Lords a million times, and not once does Darth Sion ever say, "Malak had strength, and embraced it, saw his opportunity, and took it." Can't we find a better quote?--Jedi Kasra 20:16, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

While I agree it isnt a great quote, you are wrong however and Sion does say this on Malachor. Maybe the comics will present a better one. - Lord KAJ  – Company Office 22:07, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

In the second sentence of the article, this says that Malak's original name was Alek Squinquargesimus. Is this vandalism, or canon? What was the source? Should it be removed?69.243.31.167 20:10, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Jedi vs Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 20:18, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Malak's jaw
Where does it say that Revan cut his jaw. That never happen, unless I am mistaken
 * The Hasbro action figure and Heritage of the Sith. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 18:29, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Speaking of which, there is just one thing that confuses me: Why did Revan cut off Malak's jaw? Was it something Malak did that made Revan mad? Or could be that Revan sliced it of by accident during sparring or one of the Mandie battles? I don't know what to say.(72.14.76.114 19:01, 23 December 2007 (UTC))

Yeah you are right. Why would Revan cut off his jaw? It's not like Malak tried to rise up or something--74.142.85.101 06:36, 25 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I like the idea that Revan cut off Malak's jaw after he destroyed Telos; Revan was still technically a good person (fighting the true sith) and he would have been furious after Malak bombarded a civilian target. Of course this line of thinking only exists in fanon at the moment.
 * As you say - it's fanon. So don't waste the talk page about it. Also - Revan was still the Dark Lord of the Sith. Even if he was fighting another evil that doesn't excuse his actions - just like Vader taking on the Black Sun or Palpatine being an enemy of the Nightsisters doesn't excuse their evil. Or, the fact that Anakin saw himself as saving the Republic from the Jedi. Intentions don't redeem someone. Actions are what matter. --Niirfa-sa 20:07, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Malak page
Who did Malak's page, because they seem to not like him. They keep saying he is inferior to Revan in every way. And that he is not intelligent.


 * Now why would anyone say that? Malak is not inferior to Revan in everyway. I mean, he's okay at fighting. But got beat by Revan. He tried to take over the sith; but Revan beat him. Revan took his jaw, and corrupted him. But He is NOT inferior to Revan. He just stinks at things more than Revan. Darthan the destroyer 20:37, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

From Alek to Malak
Wyhen did he change his name?... Was it before becoming a Sith or is he the first Sith that we know not just to add Darth to his original name but also to take on a new name altogether?--Gonzalo84 02:14, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Problem with article?
O.K. I was trying to put this link in the article: http://wizards.com/default.asp?x=starwars/article/CotFPreview5 to try to give a source for the Sith sword that Malak possesses, but when I did, it deleted 1/4th of the article! Can somebody else put link in the article, because I really don't wanna have a mistake happen like that again.--Jedi Kasra 11:29, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 11:42, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks.--Jedi Kasra 01:52, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Link to another article
Hey guys, I just created an article for one of the Wizard sources. Check it out if you like. Here it is: Hope you all like it.--Jedi Kasra 19:07, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Darth Malak: An Expanded Universe Character From Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

New Image
Does anyone think the image below would be a good main image for the page? I sure think so.--Jedi Kasra 21:56, 10 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Off centered. And if you did make it centered then it would be too small for the infobox. I hope this wasn't a "OMG! His ultra-kewl lightsaber is in it! It HAS to go in the infobox!" -- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|25px]] (Talk) 22:08, 10 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmphh. No, it wasn't on of those "OMG" moments. I honestly thought it would look better. Maybe we'll eventually get a better image in a future reference book such as the Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide being written by none other than John Jackson Miller.--Jedi Kasra 23:41, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Doubtful with the whole Alek/Malak identity established. I don't see what's wrong with the current one. True, it could be of higher resolution but it works. -- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|25px]] (Talk) 23:43, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I think this image is good fro the infobox. --Eyrezer 04:22, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I like it, but if you find a better one, then by all means show us. DarthMalus 00:07, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Who was Alek?
Okay, sorry about this, but not everyone out there reads the comics. I saw one post saying that Malak and Alek were merged. I have no idea who Alek was, and I don't have any comics or the Jedi vs. Sith book for reference. Could someone please edit the Behind the Scenes section to explain this? Jeez, talk about a tempest in a teapot. Calm down guys, and stop being so condescending. Whatever happened to common courtesy? --Kessel 20:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Or you could read the first few paragraphs of the article...-- Redemption [[Image:Redemptionusersymbol.png|25px]] (Talk) 22:40, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Oops. I guess I missed the first part of the article. I usually skip the summary of the character because I figure it's all in the rest of the article anyway, just with more detail. Although it would still be nice if somebody would edit Behind the Scenes to explain who the original Alek was, and where and why they were merged. You know, it could say something like, "Originally Alek was a character who appeared in the such and such comics as a character who did whatever and was merged with Malak in this certain book or comic." But thanks for pointing out my oversight, Redemption. Next time I'll read the whole article before suggesting changes.

Quote change Rnd. 2
Does anyone think this quote would be better for the article? I sure think so, but that's just my opinion.--Jedi Kasra 22:14, 5 March 2008 (UTC) "We'll go to the front – and beyond it, if it'll save the galaxy. Sometimes you have to enter the darkness to save the light."

- Alek Squinquargesimus


 * Ya, put it in between where Alek becomes Malak. Darthan the destroyer 20:38, 21 March 2008 (UTC)