Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Jodo Kast


 * ''The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a featured article nomination that was successful. Please do not modify it.

(5 Inq/4 Users/9 Total)
Support
 * 1) People need to stop making character FANs. - Lord Hydronium(Oya!) 03:18, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) My one grammatical objection has been addressed. I'm afraid I'm fresh out of gratuitous, invalid, or unreasonable ones. Sorry. -- Ozzel 01:31, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) *Really, those comments are unneeded. Whatever is going on is between the nominator and objectors, outside comments are not needed to stoke those flames. Professionalism, even when others may not agree on things, should be the route practiced. Greyman  http://images.wikia.com/central/images/9/9c/Jan.png ( Talk ) 02:05, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Resolved over IRC. Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:59, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Very interesting and entertaining read. Thefourdotelipsis 00:01, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 21:59, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) No trace of the stub I started almost three years ago remains. Hooray for wikis! &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 22:11, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 07:06, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) See, that wasn't so bad. Now Fett . . .  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 04:14, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) Poser.  Graestan ( Talk ) 14:59, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Image objections:
 * 2) * Image:Kast face.jpg: Artifacty.
 * 3) **Replaced.
 * 4) * Image:Jodo Kast.jpg: Awful .jpg artifacts present.
 * 5) **Replaced with a PNG version, cropped straight from the Decipher website GIF.
 * 6) * Image:IG-72.JPG: .jpg artifacts.
 * 7) **No kidding. Better now. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 21:59, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) * Image:Jodo-Kast.jpg: You cannot be serious.
 * 9) **That's the highest quality scan Jaymach could get from the source. Take it up with Gamer. - Lord Hydronium 21:41, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) ***Alright. No need to get hostile. --Imperialles 23:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) ****Didn't mean to. Just touchy over the accusations people are letting fly at me. ;-) - Lord Hydronium 00:56, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) ***** Just a comment: is that picture supposed to be an image of Kast in a hologram or something? Because it looks to me as though the horizontal lines are deliberate. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 02:32, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 13) ******They are. It's a Mike Vilardi drawing with some sort of overlay. - Lord Hydronium 02:36, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) * Image:Kast Explosion.jpg: Artifacty.
 * 15) **Nobody has the comic to scan this, and the artifacts are only visible at very close inspection of the full view (that is, not the one people reading the article will see). I don't think holding up the article over this image will help it at all, frankly. - Lord Hydronium 04:45, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 16) * Image:Kast1.jpg: Artifacty.
 * 17) **Replaced. - Lord Hydronium 04:45, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * --Imperialles 14:21, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) From the squalid cubicle of Graestan:
 * 2) * Infobox image has to change. That really doesn't represent Kast as he is seen most commonly.
 * 3) **His face should be shown, if a canonical image of it exists. The article is on the character, and therefore an image of his character, not his armor, should be the main one. Other people can wear the armor and look the same, and in the case of Thrawn, have, but Kast's appearance is unique. The fact that he has a bit of blood on his face doesn't negatively affect the image to that extent. See Jaster Mereel and Anakin Skywalker for precedence on this. - Lord Hydronium 00:56, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) ***Demoted FAs and articles with no status do not constitute precedence. The opinions of a handful of users, who all happen to be rather chummy with one another, does not constitute consensus. Something more solid on either side would convince me. Graestan ( Talk ) 01:48, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) ****Oh, and this just in: Durge is a featured article with a masked image in the infobox. Graestan ( Talk ) 01:52, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) *****I cannot see any reason for keeping a masked image in the infobox. It's an article on him, not his armor, and other people have worn the same armor (and therefore looked exactly the same as a masked image of him). But I've said this and it evidently wasn't a persuasive enough argument, so I don't know what else to say. - Lord Hydronium 02:11, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) ******Carnor Jax is another featured article with the mask, and not a very unique mask, to boot. Graestan ( Talk ) 02:14, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) *******Hm...can you tell me what rule this is violating? - Lord Hydronium 02:20, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) ********Sixteen – Partial head-shot only, not representing what he looked like when not beaten and bloodied, makes a bad infobox image. Not a good portrait at all. Similar to your feelings about text bubbles blanking. Seventeen – Won't pass this particular Inq's review unless a different picture is substituted (won't be hard; just swap it out with one from the article) or a more solid argument for keeping it is given. Graestan ( Talk ) 02:29, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) * Intro should be expanded a bit, to summarize more information in less general language.
 * 11) **Intros are supposed to be general. It hits up the major points of his career and life. I've made some changes per Top below, though.
 * 12) ***Still needs some fleshing out. A couple sentences more would do the trick. Graestan ( Talk ) 01:48, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 13) ****Expanded. - Lord Hydronium 02:07, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) *****Much better; thank you. Graestan ( Talk ) 02:14, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 15) * Death in the intro is vague. Whose jetpack? Please clarify.
 * 16) **Clarified.
 * 17) * Explain in the article the significance of the I2-CG droid, and why the Rebels sent a team in&mdash;and why the Imperials did, for that matter.
 * 18) **Clarified.
 * 19) * Kast warned her about the killing, or the bounty?
 * 20) **Clarified.
 * 21) * Explain who Ponda Baba is, and a bit more about the run-in.
 * 22) **Descriptor of Baba added, no more information on the run-in.
 * 23) * Why was Kast's taking a job with the Empire fortunate for Baba? Explain.
 * 24) **Clarified.
 * 25) * No article/redlink for the type of dart? I've seen lesser things get them.
 * 26) **Link added.
 * 27) * Explain Arno's significance.
 * 28) **Clarified.
 * 29) * Were sent on their way, or just went on their way?
 * 30) **Were sent.
 * 31) * Context is needed for Fett's sarlacc venture.
 * 32) **Clarified.
 * 33) * "Dengar, realizing from the mistakes that Kast had made and the fact that he was pulling a gun on another hunter that it was not Fett, warned him about imitating the other bounty hunter." – Could be reworded for clarification.
 * 34) **Clarified.
 * 35) * A blaster to whose head? What had been a hologram? Clarify.
 * 36) **Clarified.
 * 37) * I don't think Fett was angry that Kast was "no one." He was telling Kast that to insult him.
 * 38) **Meh. Changed.
 * 39) * "was less equipped &hellip; it was equipped" – Please change.
 * 40) **Fixed.
 * 41) * Kast's ship isn't described until the Equipment section, and then only receives a brief mention? I think this needs to be rectified.
 * 42) **No more information. The statement that the Foxcatch is the ship in TEOD is an assumption.
 * 43) * The BtS is very bare-bones, and at the very least needs to be fleshed out with appearance information. Describing the development of his role through his appearances is desired. Were there no retcons involved?
 * 44) **Please be more specific. The only retconning is putting him into an unidentified group of Rebels, but that's trivia and mentioned in the Appearances section.
 * 45) ***Again, it could use just a bit more fleshing out, such as naming which author came up with him, etc. Graestan ( Talk ) 01:48, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 46) ****It's unknown, and I don't think it's proper to assume that the author of the first book to include a character is the one who made them. - Lord Hydronium 02:07, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 47) *****Fair enough. Graestan ( Talk ) 02:14, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 48) * Source list needs to be in order of publication dates.
 * 49) **It is.
 * 50) ***Toprawa also objected on this, so I'll let him manage it. Graestan ( Talk ) 01:48, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 51) * References are not completely linked.
 * 52) **Fixed.
 * 53) * Graestan ( Talk ) 18:18, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 54) Toprawa:
 * 55) *Can you not find a better image for his infobox? Ideally, should show him in his helmet
 * 56) **His face should be shown, if a canonical image of it exists. The article is on the character, and therefore an image of his character, not his armor, should be the main one. Other people can wear the armor and look the same, and in the case of Thrawn, have, but Kast's appearance is unique. The fact that he has a bit of blood on his face doesn't negatively affect the image to that extent. See Jaster Mereel and Anakin Skywalker for precedence on this. - Lord Hydronium 00:56, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 57) * The intro as a whole could be rewritten better:
 * 58) ** No reason to have succinct two sentence paragraphs. Condense some.
 * 59) ***They're all three sentences or more.
 * 60) ****Enough with the smart-arse semantics. Cite Rule 1. Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 61) ** The first sentence of the introduction should be written to sum him up in a nutshell in a few words. If you had to explain to someone who Kast was in one sentence, that should be it. Mentioning him as a member of the Alliance before calling him a bounty hunter in this first sentence doesn't give the correct context. Save chronological biography mentions for subsequent sentences.
 * 62) ***But...it's true.
 * 63) ****Cite Rule 1. Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 64) ** Additionally, the first paragraph of the intro could be fleshed out a little bit: where/how did he get his Mandalorian armor? Who mistook him for Fett? How did he capitalize on this case of mistaken identity? It wouldn't hurt to even give a brief mention of the effect it had on Fett himself, as substantial as this is
 * 65) ** Please provide a brief descriptor for Boba Fett, regardless of how well-known he is. Who is he?
 * 66) ***Clarified.
 * 67) **Please rewrite this sentence. It's not really saying anything - too overly generalized: "He won some, he lost some." So? What did this mean for his career? Additionally, who is Adar Tallon? Who is Cornelius Evazan. Provide greater context: "Kast participated in a number of hunts, some successful, some, like those of Adar Tallon and Cornelius Evazan, unsuccessful."
 * 68) ***It's an intro. It's meant to be general. Further context is in the article.
 * 69) ****Cite Rule 1.
 * 70) ** This sentence should be reordered somewhere previously to provide greater context for why he modeled himself after Fett: "Kast concerned himself with building his reputation and establishing himself as a rival to Boba Fett."
 * 71) ***Clarified.
 * 72) * Please provide greater context this for this sentence. Ideally, years of service: "Jodo Kast was once a SpecOps resistance member, fighting for the Rebellion when it was still confined to local insurrections"
 * 73) **No more context exists.
 * 74) * The rest of that first biography paragraph could be beefed up a little bit. Avoid too many simple, single clause sentences.
 * 75) **There's only one single clause sentence. It now has a "However," in front of it for flow.
 * 76) * Please explain what Goratak III is. A planet? Where is the planet located?: "A Plexus Droid Vessel with sensitive information on Rebel manufacturing operations crashed on Goratak III"
 * 77) **Location unknown.
 * 78) * Why is this droid substantial/notable? Was it carrying something? "ejecting an I2-CG droid into that world's Crystal Forests"
 * 79) **Clarified.
 * 80) * Please elaborate on why the Rebellion and Empire were dispatching forces. What were they after? Motives? "The Rebellion dispatched three squads&mdash;Red Smoke, Safari One, and Buzz Boys&mdash;one of which Kast was in, as well as Grindol Maal and the Force-sensitive Wuwuhuul. The Empire sent their own forces, including the Mandalorian Feskitt Bobb."
 * 81) **Clarified.
 * 82) * At the end of this section, please beef up your sentences and paragraphs. No one, two sentence paragraphs. Elaborate and condense: How, specifically, did he come across this armor? "Kast retrieved a suit of Mandalorian armor from the planet Zaadja,"
 * 83) **No information exists.
 * 84) ***For sheer aesthetics, the single-lined, two sentence "paragraph" should be beefed up or tacked onto the end of the previous paragraph. Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 85) * Why did he join up with these two? Who are they, specifically? What was his/their reasons for doing so? "It was not long before he joined with fellow hunters Zardra and Puggles Trodd"
 * 86) **They're other hunters; that's already in there. No other information exists.
 * 87) * Please provide a brief description of what Taboon is: "to find Kast in the Red Shadow cantina on Taboon"
 * 88) * Don't assume readers know who or what a concept is, no matter how well-known something may be. Keeping this in mind, please provide a descriptor for who Jabba is. Avoid just dropping concepts in: "Jabba later placed a bounty on her for the killing"
 * 89) **Clarified.
 * 90) * Please confirm that the source explicitly says that it was "believed" that Kast warned from an IU perspective. Additionally, please explain what happened to their partnership? Who left whom? Where did they go? Motives? "Jabba later placed a bounty on her for the killing, which Kast was believed to have warned her about."
 * 91) **Confirmed. No information exists on the rest.
 * 92) * Same with previous objections; who is Ponda Baba? Why did join up with Baba? What did it mean to each of them?Additionally, please rewrite to avoid these simple, single clause sentences: "Kast had a run-with Ponda Baba"
 * 93) **No information exists. And there's nothing wrong with simple sentences.
 * 94) ***What's wrong with them is that they're not well-written. Objection struck, but still cite Rule 1.
 * 95) * Again, to sum up these objections as I go along, you too hastily summarize concepts and ideas without explaining them enough. Please beef up your writing. Who was his partner? How did he kill him? Where did this fight occur? : "The bounty hunter killed Baba's partner"
 * 96) **No information exists. I can't add what isn't there.
 * 97) * He promised him this? Explain this as part of his motivation previously, and please elaborate on this promise: "then reneged on his promise to split the reward with Baba"
 * 98) **No information exists.
 * 99) ***If the information doesn't exist, then remedy the portion of the objection that you can. Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 100) * Please rewrite to elaborate on this "mangling" and to avoid the word "now" to stay away from any pretenses of the present tense: "a "doctor" who mangled his patients and who now had a bounty of a million credits on his head"
 * 101) **Elaborated. "Now" is in the context of the timeframe I'm discussing. The past tense in the sentence makes it clear that it's not present.
 * 102) ***Then please rewrite to avoid the use of "now." Cite Rule 1. Don't act like you're helpless and it can't be done.
 * 103) * If possible, please elaborate on who his sources are: "Kast followed the information from his sources"
 * 104) **No information exists.
 * 105) * In the "Early hunts" section you start off every paragraph the same way. Please reword to mix it up a bit
 * 106) **Changed up a bit.
 * 107) * The final paragraph of that section is much too PBPish. Please rewrite a bit.
 * 108) **Please clarify. The only thing I see that is pushing PBP is the blaster shot, which is important since it established a major trait of Evazan (namely the scar).
 * 109) * Also, when you discuss these early hunts, please explain whether or not his clients/targets thought he was Kast or Fett
 * 110) **No information exists.
 * 111) * Please link this to whatever sector we are talking about: "issued a sector-wide bounty"
 * 112) **Added.
 * 113) * Please elaborate on why she had sneaked aboard the ship: "Kast helped deal with a Rebel agent on board, Dana"
 * 114) **Clarified.
 * 115) * Please elaborate on what the station is, where it is, and why the Relentless is there: "As the Star Destroyer was docked at Kwenn Space Station"
 * 116) **Added some context as to why it was there, but as for the rest...it's a station. There aren't really any other details relevant to the article.
 * 117) * Please rewrite to avoid this simplified generalization. Flesh it out: "While the others did battle"
 * 118) **It's an RPG module. What exactly happens is entirely up to the players.
 * 119) * Explain in greater detail what's going on here. He slipped back into the airlock? As in, he was there previously? Where was this airlock on this ship? In the docking bay? What was in the airlock? Did he jettison himself out into space? "Kast slipped back into the airlock"
 * 120) **Clarified.
 * 121) * Please rewrite to simply say "0 BBY" rather than just pipelinking to avoid sticking resync dates like this into the article. Keep in mind that we write for the casual observer, and no one is going to know what this is. To achieve what I believe what you're after, explain that it was in 0 ABY and then provide greater context "X months before the Battle of Yavin" or whatever: "Kast was on Tatooine as early as 35:3:6"
 * 122) **There is no canonical way of listing exact dates in the BBY/ABY system. And since we have an exact date (while the date in relation to the BoY requires assumption), I feel it's best used.
 * 123) ***Then please reword it to clarify for the casual reader. Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 124) * Additionally, this does not mesh or transition well with the previous paragraph. I thought he was already on Tatooine looking for Tallon? Please clarify: "Kast was on Tatooine as early as 35:3:6"
 * 125) **Added a transition, and the last time he's mentioned he's on Kwenn.
 * 126) * Please provide a descriptor for this person: "when he told Spurch Goa"
 * 127) **Added.
 * 128) * Please reword to clarify who you mean here. Goa? Kast? "He and his fellow hunters"
 * 129) **Clarified.
 * 130) * This sentence seems confusing. So, he's randomly going into the Jundland Wastes to keep other hunters in line? I suspect he had another motive for going there. Please explain: "Kast sent Trodd to sign up the other bounty hunters to accompany him on a journey into the Jundland Wastes, his way of keeping the less competent ones in line"
 * 131) **Clarified.
 * 132) * Elaborate here. How did he kill her? Where did he kill her? Did she think he was Fett? "Kast killed Flats"
 * 133) **Elaborate on what could be elaborated on, no information exists for the rest.
 * 134) * Elaborate on why he is threatening this person: "threatening the local Old Arno"
 * 135) **Clarified.
 * 136) * Why is he deciding to eliminate them? Please explain: "had intended to meet with Flats and Arno, he decided to eliminate them"
 * 137) **Clarified.
 * 138) * You write as "the cantina" as though the reader knows what you're talking about. What cantina? Explain and link, please: "drew them into an ambush at the cantina"
 * 139) **No information exists.
 * 140) ***Then please rewrite to say something like "a Tatooine cantina." Again, "the cantina" presupposes that the reader knows what this is, when he does not. Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 141) * Please elaborate on what happened here. Did his hunters succeed? Why did he leave? Cowardice? "Kast's hunters fell upon them, their orders to kill, and Kast himself arrived in the middle of the fighting to fire a poison dart at the group, then fled."
 * 142) **No information exists.
 * 143) * How did the Rebels win here? You say in the next sentence that he failed. How, specifically? "The Rebels were ultimately victorious, however, and Kast fled"
 * 144) **No information exists.
 * 145) * This speculation does not belong in the main body of the article. I thought you voted for moving ambig canon into the BTS? At any rate, this is where this piece belongs: "He may have participated in Arden Lyn's combat tournament in this time as well. "
 * 146) **It's not ambiguously canon in the same sense that you're thinking. However, if it is canon it's a valid point that should be brought up in his biography, and "may" is the best compromise I can see. It's like how we treat "possible appearances", and I'm sure I could find precedent on it.
 * 147) ***This is ambiguous canon. He either did appear or didn't appear. Since you claim you can't say either way, it's speculative and ambiguous. BTS material. Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 148) * Please provide a little bit of contextual detail here. Don't assume we know what this is, that he "fell into the sarlacc." "even after Fett fell into and later emerged from the sarlacc"
 * 149) **Clarified.
 * 150) * Please elaborate on what/where Fluwhaka is: "independently tracked Nosstrick, the last of Jerresk's crew, to Fluwhaka"
 * 151) **Clarified.
 * 152) * What is a detonator? A thermal detonator? If so, please explain and link: "Nosstrick attempted to ambush Kast with a detonator"
 * 153) **Changed to "explosive device".
 * 154) * Please reword this. You refer to Kast throughout this entire paragraph alternatively as "the bounty hunter" and then randomly switch off to refer to Dengar like this. Confusing: "Kast let Dengar leave, and the bounty hunter, "
 * 155) **Clarified.
 * 156) * This is kind of a random description after you say he was running down the stairs. Should specify that he tripped, fell, whatever: "catching up with Hiicrop as he was sprawled on the floor."
 * 157) **Clarified.
 * 158) ***No, you didn't. Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 159) * This section, specifically, of the last paragraph in the Fett section is rather PBP. Please rewrite: "Fett damaged Kast's jetpack, and Kast fell, catching Fett around the ankle; Fett then fired a paralyzing nerve toxin into his neck, and Kast crashed to the ground. Fett stripped Kast of his jetpack, then removed his helmet; upon seeing that Kast was "no one," Fett grew angry and began pulling off Kast's armor as he informed the bounty hunter of the dangers of taking a reputation unearned."
 * 160) **Removed a bit of unnecessary detail.
 * 161) * This description does not match what you have previously, or even what you have later in this same section. The description: "In his years as a bounty hunter, Kast took on only the best-paying jobs" and the previous description: "Though the bounties Kast took were not first rate," and the later description: "though they were not the first-rate jobs". Please clarify this contradiction
 * 162) **That's what canon says. Maybe "first-rate" and "best-paying" aren't the same, we don't know. I'm just stating what the sources say.
 * 163) * Again, avoid speculation in your writing. This description belongs in the BTS.: "He may have participated in Arden Lyn's combat tournament in this time as well."
 * 164) **This is a repeated objection. See previous response.
 * 165) ***And see latest response. Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 166) * Please paraphrase direct quotes rather than putting quotes in the article body. That's why we have quote headers: "Jodo Kast never forgets," he was to known to have said"
 * 167) **That's not a rule. And I have precedent for it in Hoth.
 * 168) ***Of course it's not a direct rule. It's a matter of clean prose. Cite Rule 1. Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 169) *This rather POV. Please reword to avoid this: "He was not as skilled as Fett"
 * 170) **Skills are not POV.
 * 171) ***To brazenly say someone is better than someone else is POV. Again, as an Inquisitor, you should rightly have the concept of POV down. Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 172) * Please elaborate on what kind of ship this is. Do we know where he got it from? When did he use it? "Kast's personal vessel was the Foxcatch"
 * 173) **No information exists. See response to Graestan above.
 * 174) ***No information exists? Is that why we have a whole article for it, including a picture? Please add this information; this makes me wonder what other information this article is lacking that you claim there is "no information" for. Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 175) * The BTS is rather pedestrian and needs to be fleshed out including notable appearances, first creation, talk about Teras Kasi here and expand on his role in the game, etc. I would suggest, in the spirit of Mandalorian armor, to take a look at Fenn Shysa and take some notes from Cull. He knows how to write a good BTS.
 * 176) **No information exists on who created him. First appearance is discussed. Game info clarified. Shysa is lucky in that it has a lot to say about it; not all characters have non-trivial appearance info, though.
 * 177) * Source list is not in correct order.
 * 178) **Fixed.
 * 179) * Please link your references.
 * 180) **Fixed.
 * 181) ***And one final note, Hydro, because I know how you can be, I've experienced your attitude with TwinTail, I'm not about to begin childish pissing matches with you over these objections. You can take them in stride and do your best to address them, or you can choose not to. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:11, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 182) ****Uncalled for. I've addressed what objections I can, but some are unresolvable or misplaced. If you disagree, that's obviously your prerogative, but there's no need to start attacking me on it before I've even responded. - Lord Hydronium 00:56, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 183) *****This disclaimer was not of hostile nature. It was a preventive measure in hopes that you would have recognized the shortcomings of this article and eagerly addressed them for the sake of this website. Your complaining and passive aggression towards me as well as the other objectors to this article in IRC is a direct testament to the very childish pissing I have cited. Your attitude is terrible and very unbecoming of someone in your position on this site, and you should be ashamed of yourself. You have defiantly done only the bare minimum to "address" these objections and fought me where you possibly could. Your efforts are insufficient and this article is not becoming of Featured Status. For the unstricken objections that will remain, I cite Rule 1: an article must be well-written and detailed. Until you have sufficiently rewritten the lacking elements of this article to where I feel comfortable placing my vote to display this on the Main Page, you still have work to do. Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:09, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 184) ******Given that you're not willing to admit that some of your objections are invalid, or that not including information that doesn't exist isn't a "shortcoming" (or for that matter, that telling you these things entails "fighting"), all I can do is see what the Inq thinks of them. - Lord Hydronium 02:23, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 185) ******To anyone following this just on the FAN page, we've resolved it in a manner satisfactory to all over IRC. - Lord Hydronium 09:28, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * "Kast participated in a number of hunts, some successful, some, like those of Cornelius Evazan and Adar Tallon, the latter of which took him to Tatooine, unsuccessful." - This sort of reads a bit oddly. Thefourdotelipsis 23:39, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * A rule one objection: "Kast's earlier tendencies to imitate Fett eventually gave way to a stark hatred of the man." Did Kast hate Fett, Fett hate Kast, or both?  On its own, it sounds like the first option, but the context in that paragraph gives rumored reasons why Fett might hate Kast, so the issue gets confused. &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 19:17, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Kast hated Fett. I think I know what you mean about those reasons: one is reason for Kast to hate Fett, the other vice versa. It's what the source says, though; and it does put them together in the same context I do in the article. - Lord Hydronium 21:09, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I'll withdraw my objection, though if you can think of a better way to phrase it before it goes on the front page next year, please go for it. 8) &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 22:11, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Second paragraph of the BtS should be moved before the first one, and beefed up with the names of the authors, et cetera. Should also have a bit more appearance info. Also, I heard some (Eyrez, possibly) mentioned that Abel is considering making a retcon that it was Kast in Galaxy of Fear, not Fett. Please look this up and add to the BtS if true. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 20:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *I've added the authors, but in regards to moving the paragraphs, his death was written a while after he was created. I've combined the paragraphs and added some context to clarify that. - Lord Hydronium 22:57, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) *I did you one better and added a whole paragraph on Abel and Jodo. ;-) - Lord Hydronium 06:39, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) **BtS looks much better. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 07:06, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * 6) * "The battle was messy, and in the middle of the fighting Kast mistook Bobb for Boba Fett and killed him." Please reword this sentence; the word "messy" is vague and it doesn't read well in general.
 * 7) * "The crime lord Jabba the Hutt later placed a bounty on her for the killing, a bounty Kast was believed to have warned her about." Not being familiar with the source material, I believe you're referring to the bounty on Zardra. That being said, don't end your sentences with a preposition and-did Kast warn her about the bounty, or about the possibility of the bounty before it was issued?
 * 8) * Could there possibly be more context on how Kast's jetpack explodes? It's stated that Fett removed it, but that's about it.
 * 9) * The beginning of the last 3 P&T paragraphs is lacking in variety. Please vary it up.
 * 10) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 19:40, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * Approved by Inquisitorius 14:59, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Just as a note, the infobox images does not have to change at all. I don't know where that one was plucked from. Thefourdotelipsis 22:46, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * We'll probably end up needing to get a quorum together on this to overturn those who are being unreasonable. Face &gt; helmet seems like a stunningly obvious idea to me. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 02:45, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * There's an upcoming Inq meeting at which this could be discussed and voted upon. Graestan ( Talk ) 02:47, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I've added this to the meeting's agenda, as seen here. Greyman  http://images.wikia.com/central/images/9/9c/Jan.png ( Talk ) 03:12, 4 April 2008 (UTC)