Forum:SH Archive/Jacen Solo

Should The Jacen Solo Article be renamed Darth Caedus? I mean he is fully Sith so, just a thought>
 * No, because that's not the name he currently goes by anywhere but his own thoughts. Once he publicly claims the title and it becomes his public name, then we'll talk. Havac 06:07, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * If he states his name and dies under that name...then probably, yes, we would have to move it, but, as with Count Dooku, we will probably go by the name they were most known by, like Palpatine...he was really Darth Sidious, but the public and most of the EU sources knew him as Palpatine. DarthMalus 02:51, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Because Jacen Solo is dead. Darth Caedus has been born. I think we should change all Sith like Dooku and Palpatine should be categorized by the name they died with.User:Revan rocks Caedus sucks 3 December 2007
 * Based on your logic we should leave it at Jacen, "Because Jacen Solo is dead." ;)  —Xwing328 (Talk) 17:54, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean by "my logic?" I just think that commpared to Darth Revan Darth Caedus is just a novice in the sith ways. We should keep it Darth Caedus, ever though he sucks. He does not even have an apprentice yet. Darth Caedus it is. User: Revan rocks Caedus sucks. December 2007.
 * As on the talk page for Jacen Solo, the argument is that everyone but Caedus knows him as Jacen Solo, so Jacen Solo it is. Everyone knows Count Dooku as (Count) Dooku, so his page is Dooku and not Darth Tyranus.Darth Balls 02:36, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

I really think we should name sith lord under the name they died with. It makes them seem evil. This evil is the embodyment of the Sith Lords we all know and love. It adds a certain zing to the personallity. If Dooku, and Palpatine are known by their Pre-Sith Lord names it doesn't make the same impression that a Sith Lord name could. User:Revan rocks caedus sucks December 12 2007.
 * You may be interested in reading this before stating that we want the Sith Lords to "seem evil." Also, since our articles are written in an in-universe perspective, and no one in-universe & living except for Caedus himself actually calls him that or knows him as such, we won't be moving the article yet. Hobbes ( Tiger's Lair ) 16:47, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to rain on your parade whoever is agreeing with me below, but this guy^ makes a good point. User: Revan rocks Caedus sucks

I agree with Revan Rocks that the name should be Darth Caedus. It's who he is. Regardless of what he's known as, he is who he is, and that's Darth Caedus.Maxi6 20:52, 15 December 2007 (UTC)Maxi6
 * ATTN: DON'T STOP READING AND KNEED JERK AFTER THIS NEXT STATEMENT!! Maybe no-one understands this, he is the only person in-universe that knows him as Caedus, EVERYONE else knows him as Jacen, so the page is named Jacen. IMPORTANT!! Everyone knows Palpatine as Palpatine so the page is Palpatine and NOT Darth Sidious, same as Count Dooku and not Darth Tyranus. Let the knee jerk responses like the one above this commence.Darth Balls 22:16, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

So if Anakin died on Mustafar, would his page be titled Anakin Skywalker because most people didn't know he was a Sith? And by the way, what exactly is a knee jerk?Maxi6 01:21, 17 December 2007 (UTC)Maxi6
 * Exactly Maxi6... only that he didn't. And everbody knew him henceforth as Darth Vader. Carlitos Moff 02:49, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Um, FYI, his page is at Anakin Skywalker. -LtNOWIS 08:18, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Heheh... I really should think before I open my mouth, shouldn't I? Carlitos Moff 10:22, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Look, people, he is Darth Caedus! It's the truth, it's who he is, so it should be the title of the article. Maxi6 01:20, 19 December 2007 (UTC)Maxi6
 * *You may be interested in reading this DO IT NOW! That's Wookieepedia policy, end of discussion.Darth Balls 01:28, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I have a secret name myself. It's not my IP address. I've never told anyone my secret name, it is only known to me. Now, you must go write an article about me, so what name are you going to use? Wookieepedia is written from an in-universe perspective, and since no one else in the Star Wars universe yet knows Jacen's sith name, they can't very well write an article about him using that name, can they? 76.214.128.136 08:25, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 76.214.128.136 has a good point. In-universe, he is Jacen Solo. Few know that he is even Sith (I have not read anything after Sacrifice out of disgust, so I do not know if anyone, or how many, have discovered this private fact), so he is known by virtually everyone who knows him as Jacen Solo... Even when his Sith status gets out, any common GA/whatever-govt citizens who know of him, and even many who have met him one way or another, will STILL know him as Jacen Solo. Unless of course, he becomes an active public figure similar to Vader, which seems to be something he is avoiding (being Vader); or unless he decides to go by nothing BUT Caedus, as opposed to Palpatine, who still went by Palpatine for the rest of his unnatural life... Until he widely and publicly declares his name as Darth Caedus and refuses to acknowledge anyone who calls him Jacen Solo (as Vader did with the name Anakin Skywalker), he will still be known as Jacen Solo *in the SW universe* and his page should be titled as such! Valderaad Dathomiri 09:13, 20 December 2007 (UTC)