User talk:Cade Calrayn

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Manari
Hello. As our expert on TOR, I was wondering if you know where and when Manari is mentioned in the game? I plan wrapping up one or two small articles related to it and it would be nice if I could write the planet as well.  Clone Commander Lee  Talk 13:41, March 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * Knife's Edge Politics
 * Dealing with the rigid, tradition-bound leaders of Manari is a delicate operation. Have your companion open talks with them without violating their political etiquette.
 * <<1>> walked the fine line of etiquette perfectly, and the leaders of Manari were impressed at a foreigner's dedication to their ways.


 * That's it. Just a Diplomacy crewskill mission. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn
 * Thanks a lot. :)  Clone Commander Lee  Talk 16:20, March 11, 2014 (UTC)

Orbital stations
Hi, I need your help since you created Category:Orbital Stations. I am cleaning up Category:Space stations and moved Corellia Space Station to Category:Orbital stations, when I noticed that capitalization was incorrect. I wanted to move the pages from Category:Orbital Stations to the correctly-named category, when I saw the description "Orbital space stations that appeared during the Cold War and Galactic War, as they're all the same type."

Here is my request: Could you identify the pages in these categories that are of this special type and sort them into a new category with a more descriptive name, ideally a subcategory of Category:Orbital stations? I would really appreciate that, since I have no idea how to name this category, and it could be that other users placed pages in Category:Orbital Stations by mistake, going just by name instead of by the description on the category page. --GySgtHartman (talk) 18:24, March 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * Great, thanks for your help. From the articles themselves it is not obvious that the stations are of the same type (and of which), maybe you could add some information on this some day. --GySgtHartman (talk) 20:02, March 25, 2014 (UTC)

Star Wars Imperial Commando
Hello, Cade. I just noticed one objection of yours to Star Wars: Imperial Commando seems to be addressed, but not struck. As it dates back from February, is it possible that you forgot it?  Clone Commander Lee  Talk 10:08, March 14, 2014 (UTC)

Wing Guard uniform
Hello Cade, I saw that the Wing Guard uniform was redirected. I fail to see how it's different from articles such as Alliance Fleet trooper uniform, Imperial officer's uniform, etc. I also remember Scout trooper armor ended up getting its own article, when it was originally a redirect for Stormtrooper armor. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 20:41, March 14, 2014 (UTC)

TNT
Hello there. I only recently saw this edit you made, and I don't quite understand your reasoning for the redirect. Why don't you think Angry Birds should be treated like any other non-canon source?  Stake black   msg 02:44, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * PS, I just found this in the German Wookieepedia. I was hoping you could make sense of it, since I know nothing of TOR. Cheers.  Stake black   msg 23:48, March 17, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Faa GAN

 * Just letting you know that I've responded to most of your comments on the Faa nomination. I'm still unclear where you are seeing the Word-based apostrophe. I believe I've limited double linking but I can recheck that. --  Riffsyphon  1024 17:22, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Updating you in regards to the Mee GAN. I hope I have covered most things. --  Riffsyphon  1024 08:04, April 25, 2014 (UTC)

Ewoks: The Battle for Endor
Hi. I noticed that there is no source for the cast/crew list that you added, as it is causing an error in the references section. Adamwankenobi (talk) 17:44, March 24, 2014 (UTC)

Holiday Special
How are the links from the animated segment separate from the rest of the show? I understand that it has its own page, but it's a part of the special just as much as any of the other segments are. Adamwankenobi (talk) 19:28, March 25, 2014 (UTC)

== Hi ==

Hi :P Was it hard for you to join this Wikia ?-- Emperor Jarjarkine (talk) 17:55, March 29, 2014 (UTC)

Category:Battles of the pre-Shadow Hand campaign
Hello there. If you want to put the battles of this campaign into this category (pre-Shadow), you should create its page. The page for this category hasn't been created. However, this page (Pre-Shadow) already exists if you want to use it. I let it up to you if you want to create a new page and delete the existing one. Anyway, I think we should use the Pre-Shadow page since it is written like that everywhere else. Best regards. --DKS MaXoO (talk) 19:37, March 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * It's a conjectural title, so it's rather fanony to have a capital Pre. I wasn't finished working on that category yet, so I hadn't made the category yet. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  19:41, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

Mahara Kesh
Mahara Kesh

Forces of Corruption
Okay, here is the chronology:


 * Sometime well before the destruction of the Death Star: Mission to Mandalore, Battle of Felucia (Zann Consortium) (more like a mission though)
 * Zann is imprisoned after Felucia and spends some time in prison, the game indicates that this are at least a few months
 * Zann is freed by Fen: Ground Battle on Kessel, Skirmish on Honoghr, Skirmish over Mandalore (still before DS)
 * Now Zann mentions that the Death Star has been destroyed to Yavin IV and wants to go there. You are given the task to "corrupt or conquer" all planets between you and Mandalore, which would be Shola (already corrupted), Nal Hutta and The Maw. You can bypass Shola. The Skirmish on Nal Hutta is not really needed, you can easily conquer the planet without corrupting it, therefore I'm unsure if this actually fits within the chronology. The Maw cannot be corrupted and therefore needs to be conquered by a space fleet.
 * Space Battle at Yavin 4, shortly after you are attacked by Jabba. The Skirmish on Saleucami happens next, but you also have the possibility to corrupt the planet on some other way, so I'm once again not sure if this belongs in the chronology. Next are the Battle of Saleucami (Zann Consortium) and the Ground Battle on Hypori. All this takes place well before Episode V/VI.
 * Next is the Ground Battle on Dathomir and then followed after some time by the Ground Battle on Bespin. The later one has to take place after Episode V, as the Empire controls Bespin. Xizor is killed after this mission.
 * The death of Xizor is mentioned by Thrawn at the Space Battle at Carida.
 * The Raid on the Imperial Archive takes place shortly before Endor as the Emperor has left Coruscant.
 * In the immediate aftermath of Endor, Zann attacks Kuat. The Battle for the Eclipse is the final mission.

Hope that helps. If you got questions etc. please contact me on IRC or leave a message on my talk page. Cheers.  Clone Commander Lee  Talk 10:55, April 4, 2014 (UTC)


 * And BTW: Does Lord Umbriss' estate need a conjecture tag? AFAIK yes, therefore I added it, but if that is wrong, please remove it or let me know so that I can undo it.  Clone Commander Lee  Talk 22:41, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

SWTOR
Is it canon for Vette to seek revenge or to reject revenge? I'm just curious as to whether or not the dark side decision is canon in this case. --Nostalgia of Iran (talk) 22:08, April 5, 2014 (UTC)

FAN objections
Hey Cade, please note that your objections to several FANs that you've recently reviewed, including Far Orbit, Ambush on the Vulture's Claw, and XJ-6 airspeeder, have been addressed for over a week. Please make sure to follow up on them when you have the chance. In regards to the Vulture's Claw FAN, I'd be happy to further discuss the subject with you if necessary.  CC7567  (talk) 19:11, April 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yo Cade, please remember to follow up on your Far Orbit objections when you have time. Thanks.  CC7567  (talk) 15:01, April 16, 2014 (UTC)

Admin
hey why aren't you administrator?-- Emperor Jarjarkine   Senate Hall  20:56, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

Question
Hi i wanted to know, where do you find all the information about thoses pages that you create ??-- Emperor Jarjarkine   Senate Hall  01:54, April 8, 2014 (UTC)

Hay Cade
I saw you made this template back in late December of last year. And I found a really short article, to which I was going to add the template, but I saw nothing, like no articles at all, use the template. Lol, what is it for? It looks useful for articles like the previously-linked one, but it looks experimental so I wanted to ask you what is was first. —Super Saiyan 7 Somebody | talk | edits 02:39, April 11, 2014 (UTC)

Amazng job fr the mainpage ! I love this new thing you added. (y) is it hard to create? Emperor Jarjarkine   Senate Hall

Re: Ryloth
Thanks for pointing that out. I've taken care of it.  CC7567  (talk) 03:32, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Fact Files
Unfortunately, we can't get around removing "initial"/"revised remake" because the initial 5 issues have "Part" as part of their titles, too. But I'll see what I can do about moving those pages.  CC7567  (talk) 02:25, April 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * Maybe; I'll have to experiment with the citation template. I'll get it sorted out.  CC7567  (talk) 02:27, April 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * Looks good. Thanks for fixing it&mdash;I know the basics of Python, but MediaWiki coding still baffles me sometimes. :P  CC7567  (talk) 02:50, April 21, 2014 (UTC)

Tiems
It all seems to fit. The evacuation at Dankayo can only refer to the event in Scavenger Hunt (scenario), which is indicated to take place after Yavin as well. I'll amend the article accordingly. - Sir Cavalier of One ( Squadron channel ) 09:45, April 21, 2014 (UTC)

Scandalous
Hey Cade, thanks for this. I don't have that Fact File issue, could you please tell me if it brings any new information? Cheers.  Stake black   msg 14:51, April 21, 2014 (UTC)

Yags
Turns out you were right --- Battle of Yaga Minor was a conjectural name. I've made the change. Check out Dorja's FAnom and let me know if there's anything else, and thanks again for the review! Menkooroo (talk) 07:03, April 25, 2014 (UTC)

Annoucement

 * I assume you have seen the announcement on the state of EU. What is to be done for EU (Legends) material here on Wookieepedia now? (I did not where else to post this. So I figure I'd just ask you). --Darth R2-D2, Dark Lord of the Droids (talk) 21:05, April 25, 2014 (UTC)

Edit reverts
It may be in your best intentions to keep information accurate in this Wiki but I have noticed that you often revert my contributions without valid basis. Recently you did this in two topics named Leeha Narezz and Warren Sedoru. I have added content in to these two articles as per revelations in Star Wars: The Old Republic Encyclopedia. Kindly respect my contributions and do not start unnecessary edit wars. I am not a troll and I do not appreciate reversions of my contributions without valid basis. S_W_LeGenD 16:00, April 26, 2014 (UTC)

Clone Trooper confusion
Ok, I am confused. For the GA nomination - Good article nominations/Unidentified clone trooper 2 - JangFett mentioned that there is no need to mention his being a human male, as that is covered by saying he is a clone trooper. This is supported by the GA 2242. However, for the CA nomination (which might end up being a GA) - Comprehensive article nominations/Unidentified clone trooper - both Commander Code-8 and yourself are asking for mention of that clone being human, contradicting the aforementioned article.

As this involves two inqs and an edu member, I am not sure what to do, though i am inclined to follow what Jang said, as the aforementioned article agrees with this. I have left messages on the other users pages as well. Thanks for helping with trying to clear this up, i tried IRC but got no response, and posting a topic on the senate hall wouldn't necessarily get a response from you. Manoof (talk) 06:58, April 28, 2014 (UTC)

User pages and bot editing
Cade, please remember that the rules regarding editing of other users' user pages apply equally to bots as well as humans. With very few exceptions, your bot should not be editing user pages for routine tasks without the permission of that user. Some people have things formatted in a particular way in their userspace, and an edit that would be helpful in the mainspace can ruin that chosen formatting on a user page. As a specific example, take my collection subpage, where I have gone to great lengths to format it exactly the way I want. This includes the omission of series names from work titles, because those works are in a sub-list under the series name and therefore the series name would be redundant in the titles of the individual works. Your bot blindly modified them to display series names, which is not what I want on that page, and I had to fix it manually.

Unless there are very good reasons to edit user pages, your bot should leave them alone, and in the rare case that it is absolutely necessary to edit a user page (e.g. to orphan a redirect so that a different article can be moved over top of it), the edit should be done manually in a way that does not alter the displayed text. Please keep this in mind in the future. undefined


 * Checking my watchlist tonight, I found these three edits. All three of those edits broke the user's chosen formatting style. Did you not read the notice above? This is now an official warning: stop editing user pages with your bot. If you do not know how to avoid editing user pages with your bot, then you should not be operating the bot at all until you do understand how it works. I am going to make this clear: you are responsible for every edit your bot makes. If your bot continues to edit user pages, it will be a blockable offense for both you and your bot, and if that happens, I will petition to have RoboCade's bot flag revoked. undefined
 * MJ, those were purposeful edits so that the redirects with the parantheticals can be deleted. If the book redirects don't have parentheticals, I don't touch them. If the formatting is that important, then I'll be sure to replace them while preserving the link text in the future. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  04:28, May 4, 2014 (UTC)


 * You are obviously failing to understand why those edits should not be made with a bot. The reason is that the owner of the user page has, within the confines of site policy, complete control over the formatting of their user page. Some users choose to format their collection lists to include the series name in the displayed text of every title. Others choose to exclude the series name from the titles. Your bot is changing one format to the other, because bots are inherently incapable of understanding the difference. That is why you should not be making these edits to user pages with your bot. If you want to orphan the redirect so it can be deleted, that's fine. But you need to exclude user pages from the bot run, and then edit the remaining links on user pages manually so that each page can be handled in the correct manner (meaning that you should change the link target without altering the displayed text). undefined
 * Somehow your edit to your previous comment failed to give me an edit conflict. If you can figure out how to handle user pages with your bot without modifying the displayed text, that's fine, but be extra careful with those edits. The key point here is that your should never alter the displayed text of a user page other than your own. undefined
 * Yes, it can be done with a bot&mdash;i.e. replacing " " with " [[Legacy of the Force| ". My bot's set up where it manually queries me as to the edits it'll make, so I'll make sure to use that when changing userpage redirects. [[User:Cade Calrayn| Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  04:44, May 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, requiring manual approval per edit is a excellent idea when messing with user pages. User pages, more than any other pages, are prone to weird and oddball formatting, and there's always a chance that the bot might misinterpret the wikitext and try to do something that it shouldn't. undefined
 * Just as a heads-up, I'm going to be purging the rest of the four-digit-comma-years site-wide tomorrow, as we're trying to deprecate and delete them as they're essentially fanon. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  05:11, May 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * OK. Just keep in mind that even on that, the display text of user pages should not be altered. It is up to each individual user to see the bot changing the link target and decide for themselves whether to change the display text. Some might prefer to keep the comma on their user page, which is fine. undefined

Question
Hey buddy, i just wanna know what you did to the page Andru Jendri Charzakwinn (talk) 16:23, April 29, 2014 (UTC)

Rathari
Would you agree that the neutral option of gaining the loyalty of Lord Rathari loyalty is not canon? The dark side choice would be to choose to strike him down.--Nostalgia of Iran (talk) 00:43, April 30, 2014 (UTC)

You need to see this.
It seems to me that you are an important person on here, and this should be spread. http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/04/lucasfilm_decrees_that_all_star_wars_video_games_are_non_canon --Toodles78 (talk) 20:38, April 30, 2014 (UTC)

I see that you've posted "Canon" and "Legends" banners on a separate Moraband page. Is this how Wookiepedia is going to handle the Legends versus official canon?

98.28.247.91 23:00, April 30, 2014 (UTC)

Hypermatters and Soulless One
Hey Cade, why exactly did you want those two articles deleted? I'm trying to figure out why when they were legitimate products/subjects.  CC7567  (talk) 19:20, May 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * AJAX is not to be trifled with. :P Also in light of that, I'd strongly recommend that you get an admin to review the articles that were deleted to make sure no other articles were mistakenly deleted.  CC7567  (talk) 19:23, May 1, 2014 (UTC)

Unspecified gender category
Hello Cade, I saw your bot's replacing all unidentified gender category with individuals of unspecified gender. However, just from looking at a couple of my articles alone, I see that the bot did not check to alphabetize categories, so now articles such as ST-103 and TK-420 have categories no longer in alphabetical order. I'd imagine this would be the same with a lot of other articles too, so is there a way to get your bot to fix those? Thanks. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 20:47, May 2, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Alderaan
Thanks for the heads-up, Cade. ;-) Actually, I'm appalled by the look this article will have when it's finished. All these articles will look so meager... But I won't despair so easily; I'll keep squeezing everything I can from the very few canon sources we have. By the way, does the official website encyclopedia still count? And what about the "In the Movies" section of the old Databank? Or the visual dictionaries? -- Lelal Mekha  (Audience Room) 17:15, May 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, no BBY systm then. It is... unfortunate. I'll try to change it all, but that will make things much more difficult. -- Lelal Mekha  Old Republic military symbol.svg(Audience Room) 17:37, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Reliable sources TC
Hey, just letting you know that the Reliable sources TC has been amended to redirect the page rather than delete it completely. Cheers, 1358  (Talk)  17:18, May 4, 2014 (UTC)

Rogue Squadron series
Hey Cade, saw you reverted my huge changes to the Rogue Squadron series page - all of them. In the change log your only reason is "Battle for Naboo is not part of the series". So why did you revert all the changes? If you say you deleted them because of the Battle for Naboo inclusion then why did you delete all the other stuff? Besides it is part of the series, as a spin-off, which I wrote multiple times - it comes from the same team, uses the same engine and mechanics and is usually described as a sequel to Rogue Squadron. But anyway, don't want to focus on BfN too much, why did you revert all the other changes I've made? Cheers, smintili (talk) 17:19, May 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * I've restored some of the content, but there were far too many images, unsourced images, and unneeded coverage of Battle of Naboo.

Sorry, but what exactly do you mean by "unneeded coverage"?smintili (talk) 18:03, May 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * And while I'm at it, please could you explain how BfN isn't part of the series?smintili (talk) 18:45, May 6, 2014 (UTC)

Inq Meeting 63
Inquisitorius Meeting 63 has been scheduled for May 17th, at 8PM for post-Legends drinking. - Sir Cavalier of One ( Squadron channel ) 22:24, May 6, 2014 (UTC)

Novel redirects
Can you add the following novel link corrections to your bot?


 * Outcast (novel) -> Fate of the Jedi: Outcast
 * Omen (novel) -> Fate of the Jedi: Omen
 * Abyss (novel) -> Fate of the Jedi: Abyss
 * Vortex (novel) -> Fate of the Jedi: Vortex
 * Darth Plagueis -> Darth Plagueis (novel)
 * Star Wars: Kenobi -> Kenobi (novel)
 * Revelation (novel) -> Legacy of the Force: Revelation
 * Invincible (novel) -> Legacy of the Force: Invincible


 * They're on the to-do list, yes. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  15:13, May 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * Btw, your bot is updating Outcast (novel) to Fate of the Jedi: Outcast, not Fate of the Jedi: Outcast. Tainb&#39;ocu&#39;chulainn (talk) 13:22, May 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the update; I was trying a multiple-replace functionality. I'll be sure to change those later today. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  14:45, May 10, 2014 (UTC)

Anakin Skywalker/Canon and Obi-Wan Kenobi/Canon
I have created the Anakin Skywalker/Canon page and the Obi-Wan Kenobi/Canon page just a little while ago. I don't want to spoil them by adding the rest of the information from the Legends versions, so could you please do it for me as soon as possible? Please let me know right away. Thank you. AdamDeanHall (talk) 18:35, May 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * Hey, it's me again. I just found out why my Anakin Skywalker/Canon and Obi-Wan Kenobi/Canon pages were deleted:  I was told not to create empty canon articles because they don't benefit anyone.  So could you please put some effort to re-create those two pages for me? Please let me know right now.  This is important.  Thank you again. AdamDeanHall (talk) 18:40, May 10, 2014 (UTC)

Hello from another wiki
I just heard the horrible news yesterday. I don't edit on here very much - because, well, I read a lot of the books as a kid, and there is that much material in the universe that I was hard pressed to find anything TO add - but know that I, and many others like me, visit this wiki. (If we didnt, it wouldn't be mentioned in various media). I just wanted to leave a message to say that we wish you all the best of luck with the whole "Legends" issue. Just know that the entire site is awesome, and no doubt will continue to be so in the future. Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 11:06, May 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Type
Well, some of the articles don't have Legends counterparts, so I was under the impression that we wouldn't need the "Legends" tabs for subjects that have appeared exclusively in canon material, such as the Rebels articles.  CC7567  (talk) 19:16, May 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * TCW does fall into both EU and Canon, but most Season Six subjects/articles don't incorporate any EU material at all, so I don't see why we would need Legends tabs that would literally be the exact same thing as the Canon tab.  CC7567  (talk) 19:18, May 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I talked to Tope and if something doesn't exist/isn't affected by the EU, then it shouldn't have a Legends tab&mdash;only the Canon one, since it would be canon-exclusive.  CC7567  (talk) 20:00, May 11, 2014 (UTC)

Implementation of new canon articles
Hi Cade. I was about to implement a canon version of the "Bail Antilles" article&mdash;easy one since it would be VERY short&mdash;but I noticed that your "Moraband" article does not exist anymore. Has it been decided not to implement those yet? -- Lelal Mekha  (Audience Room) 19:26, May 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, we're waiting for the default-page vote to finish. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  19:28, May 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Cade, that's me again. How am I supposed to title a canon article that has the same name as the legends one? -- Lelal Mekha  Old Republic military symbol.svg(Audience Room) 09:24, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Canontab
Hey Cade, could you explain to me when Canontab will be implemented in an article in regards to Eras? Like, will Canontab only appear if both the Legends and Canon tabs exist? I'm assuming that's the case given your example implementation on Kanan, but I just wanted to confirm that. Also, just to let you know, I do agree that the majority of event articles from TCW episodes in particular will still need to have both Legends and Canon tabs, since there are several EU events (notably, Atraken, Foerost, Drongar, and Mygeeto) that run concurrent to them and would need to be detailed in Legends tabs&mdash;not to mention all the event articles from TCW comics/novels that still fall under the EU.  CC7567  (talk) 15:11, May 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * We've actually been discussing this further, and because most of the ships and other stuff in TCW have EU names (Venator-class etc.) it'll probably be necessary to have Legends & Canon tabs for all of those. And you're correct; Canontab will only appear if both the Canon and Legends articles exist, though it'll take either /Canon pages or specially-named pages like Moraband. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  15:16, May 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks. And yeah, I agree about the need for both tabs for basically all TCW/film articles. Also, this is unrelated, but have you thought about adding an option to compare the Canon/Legends tabs in Canontab using Special:ComparePages? It might be a helpful function to add so that readers can compare the two tabs. It's actually rather easy to implement, since the link to the compare page would just be Special:ComparePages?page1=FIRSTARTICLE&page2=SECONDARTICLE, e.g. Special:ComparePages?page1=Voe Atell&page2=Bec Lawise&mdash;the challenge would be making the button/display pretty enough to look good within Canontab.  CC7567  (talk) 15:30, May 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * I.... wow. I never thought of that. I'll look at implementing that, though Tope's currently commandeering me and RoboCade to add Eras to everything. :P Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  15:32, May 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha, I can take a look into it and then it can be tweaked for readability/appearance. I had the idea last night so I'll see what I can do.  CC7567  (talk) 15:47, May 12, 2014 (UTC)

How does this look? I was going to use "(diff)" instead of "(c)," but I thought it would be too long, so I went with the shorter option.  CC7567  (talk) 15:59, May 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * Looks pretty good We might want to move it to the right of both tabs and make it fancy, but formatting can always be changed. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  16:13, May 12, 2014 (UTC)

Battle of Hoth
How could you?! How could you reverted back to the previous same page? I've been added T3-B Heavy Attack Tank to that strength section to the Battle of Hoth Biographic and you given me more upset and you thought I've gave you more upset!! WHY!?Ben800013 (talk) 19:04, May 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * It's unsourced, and I'm sorry, but the general quality of the edits were too poor to allow to remain. Please be sure to read all of our policies and proof-read your edits. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  19:57, May 12, 2014 (UTC)

Liberation of Camp 4 correction
What do you mean, "All unnecessary additions". Instead of "The Federation had enslaved most of the planet's inhabitants", you'll should've added ''The Trade Federation had enslaved most of the planet's inhabitants and put them into camps such as Camp Four, so Naboo's Bravo Squadron wanted to liberate the camp to add to the Naboo Resistance as they prepared to retake their planet from the invaders.

It says "camp to add to the" which is NOT a good sentence to ME!!! You should be added from "camp to add to the" to "camp and add to the" of "camp to add the".

It says "under heavy fire from the base and from a missile turret" which is also NOT the correct sentence. It should "under heavy fire from the base and a missile turret"

This is my first year of Wookiepedia and I'm trying to HELPING YOU!Ben800013 (talk) 20:27, May 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * First off, that article is a Good Article, which means it's undergone numerous peer reviews and any changes should be brought to the author. Secondly, absolutely none of those changes were necessary; the grammar is perfectly fine as is, and your additions/removals are completely unnecessary. Please do not continue to try and alter status articles. Thank you. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  20:30, May 16, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Type
Hey Cade. I was under the impression&mdash;from a discussion I had with Tope&mdash;that for articles whose Canon and Legends versions would be identical (or very nearly identical), then it would be redundant to create both versions, so only a Canon version would be acceptable. (Of course, if there's even the slightest bit of Legends info that affects the article, then it would need both Canon/Legends versions.) From my discussion with Tope, I was under the impression that it would be fine, within a Legends article, to link to a Canon subject (assuming the article exists in both continuities). Either way, I'm confused, so if you could hop on IRC for a bit, that would be great. Otherwise I'll catch you on IRC tomorrow.  CC7567  (talk) 05:04, May 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * After talking with Tope, I've restored the two tabs that I deleted until there's a definite criteria for which articles need two tabs, one, etc. Hopefully the TCW problem is something that we can continue to discuss.  CC7567  (talk) 05:39, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Dac/Mon Cala
Hey Cade, for some reason Mon Cala's legends button didn't link to Dac. Its legends button linked to Mon Cala, while its canon button linked to Mon Cala/Canon. It could have been an Eras tag issue, but everything checked out and properly pointed to the correct article. Korriban and Moraband oddly work.  JangFett  (Talk) 00:16, May 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * We've already noticed; it's simply a caching issue involving the ifexist parser function that will eventually resolve itself. It should be moved back to Mon Cala. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  00:22, May 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, cool, wasn't sure. Thanks,  JangFett  (Talk) 00:23, May 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * olol  JangFett  (Talk) 00:36, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

IRC
Can you come on IRC? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:53, May 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * At work at the moment; I'll be home in about three/four hours. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  20:08, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Legends to Canon
I saw on the recent changes your reason for edit was "Here's how you do it." Would you be willing to help me or show me or tell me how to change an article. Thank you very muchly. Have a dark side-filled day! --You may call me Mr. Darth (talk) 19:48, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Jedi Trial
Luke Skywalker had passed the Trial of the Flesh since he loses his right hand, so I added the info to the Duel of Cloud City--Ben800013 (talk) 20:16, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Dathomir
In my opinion, it's a rare case of something published after April 25 that still affects both Legends as well as canon, due to the fact that it's part of TCW&mdash;which exists in both continuities. This is likely going to be the last TCW product ever released, but it was originally composed before the April 25 announcement, so I don't see a reason to omit the information from Legends.  CC7567  (talk) 22:31, May 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * On second thought&hellip; never mind. It was mostly just me being lazy. :P  CC7567  (talk) 18:11, May 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem. If you need any links adjusted because of canon pages overwriting redirects (like Battle of Geonosis), let me know and RoboCade will fix 'em. I've been compiling a list, and stuff like Commando droid (BX-series), super battle droid, Trade Federation landing ship (C-9979), and Separatist destroyer (Recusant-class) are just a few of them. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  18:34, May 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll keep a list and send it to you when I'm done.  CC7567  (talk) 18:37, May 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, about the Battle of Geonosis - didn't the Ahsoka TCW arc identify it as the First Battle? That memorial wall and the episode guide? Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  18:42, May 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * It only identified the memorial itself as the "First Battle Memorial," which I don't think is enough to call the battle itself as such. The "First Battle" name has always been from the TCW guidebooks, not from TCW itself.  CC7567  (talk) 18:45, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Also, this is an unrelated question, but were we planning on creating separate IU categories for Legends and Canon? For example, currently Category:Battles of the Clone Wars is for Legends articles, but do we have the means to create one for canon articles as well?  CC7567  (talk) 18:47, May 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * At this point, no; we've discussed the issue, but we already include non-canon articles in our in-universe categories&mdash;1137 is listed in the clone troopers category, despite being a non-canon character. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  18:49, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Warning
I don't mean intend be rude, but you're down right wrong. Thorn is a character that has appeared exclusively in canon material. I have tried to contribute but the problem seems to be that those who are doing all the contributing in this period of time are the only ones who know how to do it. I've asked on the Senate Hall and asked you on your talk page on how to start making legends articles into canon tabs properly. I'm also in the mood to say something about constructiveness between those in charge and those who aren't but not today. Have a dark side filled day! --You may call me Mr. Darth (talk) 23:22, May 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Can you put a heading next time? That would be much appreciated. But that not the point! I sill don't know how to do what you're yelling at me about! One ought not tell someone they're doing something without instruction. That's all I want and I'll get out of your hair (unless you're bald). Have a dark side filled day! --You may call me Mr. Darth (talk) 23:32, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

These things

 * Imperial Death Squadron
 * Ozzel
 * Piett
 * Veers
 * Rieekan
 * Second Death Star
 * A-wing starfighter
 * Meter Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 04:52, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Takin vs. Tarkin (disambig)
Hello Cade! Unless I'm mistaken, Tarkin has no known first name in the new canon&mdash;both the movies and the official online encyclopedia just call him "Tarkin." For that reason, I think that the "Tarkin" page should not redirect to the disambig. What do you think? -- Lelal Mekha  (Audience Room) 11:36, May 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * I believe that's why I moved it, actually; so that a new article could overwrite "Tarkin". I'll RoboCade the links to Tarkin tonight. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  11:38, May 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, I must confess I don't always get all the technical aspects behind all this. Please don't blame me when I don't. ;-) All right then, I guess that will be good. -- Lelal Mekha  Old Republic military symbol.svg(Audience Room) 11:42, May 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem. If you're going to overwrite a redirect with a canon article, feel free to leave me a message with the page name, and I'll bot-fix all of the existing links so we won't have any Legends articles pointing to that new canon article. For example, when I get home I'll change all Tarkin links to Wilhuff Tarkin. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  12:15, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Category:Miscellaneous films
Why did you remove this category from those video game articles? A key component of those particular games is live-action footage. I saw that you left the Star Tours rides in the category, but not these. Adamwankenobi (talk) 15:04, May 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * I didn't notice the Star Tours, but live-action footage doesn't qualify a game to be listed in films. It's still just a game. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  15:24, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Re: The Lost Missions
Yeah, I agree. I'll take care of the move.  CC7567  (talk) 18:41, May 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * I was talking to Toprawa, and he agreed with me that we should be giving precedence to canon articles over Legends articles. I realize that Hawk is currently still the Legends version, but it'll work better once Legends are moved to /Legends and canon to the main page. In the case of Hawk, people are going to be looking for the clone trooper much more than they would for the animal.  CC7567  (talk) 20:05, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Lucky redirect
Hey Cade, I wanted to add a somewhat priority request to RoboCade's to-do list. All links to Lucky need to be changed to Lucky, and all uses of need to be changed to  in light of the IU clone trooper (Lucky) being given precedence over the OOU comic (Lucky (comic)). No rush, but I'd appreciate it if you could take care of it sooner rather than later. Thanks.  CC7567  (talk) 20:38, May 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * All done, and starting on the pages you moved earlier. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  22:09, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Title question
Hey Cade. Quick question since you're handling a lot of canon redirects and titles. For the Rebel Alliance canon page, is that going to be called Rebel Alliance, Rebel Alliance/Canon, or Alliance to Restore the Republic/Canon? I've seen a few different uses and wanted to ask for consistency's sake. Thanks! - Brandon Rhea (talk) 15:12, May 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * So far, I'm keeping track of them here: User:Cade Calrayn/Canon. The Rebel Alliance encyclopedia does refer to the Rebel Alliance by their formal name, so it'll go at Alliance to Restore the Republic/Canon. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  15:13, May 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! - Brandon Rhea (talk) 15:14, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Mandalore
Alright. I've been mostly taking care of the TCW pages, so I'll leave the others up to you.  CC7567  (talk) 20:44, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Derlin
Hi Cade! If I may inquire, what do you think is wrong with the Derlin article? I doin't think there's anything left in it that doesn't come directly from ESB. I didn't do a mere copy-paste job, I think I pruned it quite carefully. -- Lelal Mekha  (Audience Room) 14:19, May 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey, it's been a while since I saw the movie, but I don't remember him being named in the movie. Plus, when I looked at it, I saw mentions of the name "Bren" in the body of the article. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  14:21, May 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * He was named "Major Derlin" in the movie credits. But the remaining mentions of "Bren" (except one I just deleted) specifically refer to his Legends counterpart. ;-) -- Lelal Mekha  Old Republic military symbol.svg(Audience Room) 14:24, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Category:Banite Sith
Hey Cade. I noticed you removed Category:Banite Sith from Palpatine/Canon, presumably with the reasoning that it's from the Legends continuity. I think that category can still apply, given that the canon Darth Bane and the canon Rule of Two were introduced in the series finale of The Clone Wars. Per that episode, as well as Bane's SW.com Encyclopedia entry, we know that he was canonically the first of a new line of the Sith based around the Rule of Two. Would you have any objection to me putting Category:Banite Sith back onto the canon Palpatine page? Given that there's no canonical mention, that I'm aware of, to the Order of the Sith Lords, "Banite Sith" seems like a good catch-all. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 20:13, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Palpatine
Hey Cade. So, I have trimmed the Palpatine section to remove all the unsourced stuff. No original research, no speculation. But, the Sarli stuff and Sithis are far from original research and speculation: they are the most definite C-Canon answer to the "Emperor's face debate", one of the most controversial aspects to the character, and should most definitely be there. As should the other sourced info. I understand your position as far as sourcing everything is concerned, but surely you must understand my position: you took out a lot of sourced stuff that belongs in the Palpatine article and DIDNT' replace it (Sarli, Sithisis, Sansweet's comment that Palpatine may have no first name, the fact that there are other people called Palpatine, and his name in Sith from the Insider article). Information backed by official sources belongs in the article, and I'm sure we can agree on that. I still haven't sourced every single thing, so I'll keep working on it. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 (talk) 21:54, May 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * The discussion about Sithisis is still speculation; at most, there can be a sentence saying that the comic shows him "masking" his face. The comments of both Sarli and Sansweet are completely unnecessary; neither of them have the influence for their comments outside of official publications to be taken as canon. As for the naming, it's complete trivia and utterly unnecessary to discuss other individuals with the same name. The Insider section that you mention is also speculation; the article is uncertain as to the real-world origins of the name Palpatine, and thus the Sith translation is also speculation. There's really nothing worth salvaging here. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  22:29, May 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * On Sithisis: it's correct that the mention of the comic should be something like "he masks his face with a Sith ritual"; that's in my revision already. But Sarli? You are wrong. All the other in-universe stuff published on the Wizards of the Coast webpage are C-Canon, and Sarli offered in-universe info on the Wizards of the Coast webpage. This is not from a "questionable source", or a "self-published source". Wizards of the Coast held the license; that's how this works. All the Insider stuff is also from an official publication (an Insider, after all), by writers paid by Lucasfilm for said articles. As official as it gets. Of course, we must mention that the 100% officially licensed article mentions that it speculates on the point of "Palpatine" being related to "palpate" and does not assume to say that the person who came up with it meant it to be related to "palpate", but as long as we do that, the info definitely belongs there. None of the stuff I've kept is against Wookieepedia policy; I have removed original research and theories, which are. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 (talk) 22:45, May 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Sarli's position does not give him the authority to declare C-canon in OOU, non-official posts. Unless you can provide actual links proving your points, then it's speculation. Even then, the Insider speculation is still just speculation and unnecessary. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  22:53, May 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * How is "Jedi Counseling" unofficial? As I said, Wizards of the Coast held the license for the Star Wars Roleplaying Game. Wizards of the Coast authorizing Sarli to answer questions about Star Wars IS the authority to declare C-Canon. Wizards of the Coast web supplements are treated as C-Canon all over Wookieepedia. Jedi Counceling is not an exception. And as I said, I have read Wookieepedia policy; citing officially published sources isn't speculation. That Sith language article from Insider is used as a source on the Sith language article. It's only cited, oh I don't know, a trillion times. It's the last word on the Sith language, actually (and now parts of it are G-Canon). There is absolutely no justification for opposing its use on the Palpatine article. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 (talk) 23:03, May 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * You're reaching. Jedi Counseling is meant as a Q&A for the roleplaying game, not Star Wars in general. It's not a standard web enhancement. Also, the Insider article is fine for sources, but when it's just the author speculating on the origin of the real-world name. Looking more at the text, that's something that'd be more acceptable to mention, but cut the speculation and size of the mention down to a minimum. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  23:09, May 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not reaching anywhere, because stats appearing in the Wizards of the Coast website are used in many articles. Example: XQ2 Platform -- http://web.archive.org/web/20091228104322/http://wizards.com/default.asp?x=starwars/article/Mesop1   Sarli offers stats about the Mask power in response to a question about Palpatine's face swap. And as to how "Jedi Counceling" is not a standard web enhancement, you'd have to prove that somehow, because I really don't see the difference. If we accept stats elsewhere, we must accept them from that. As to the speculation, I removed all of it and have now cited most sections. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 (talk) 23:17, May 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * If that's true, then Sarli's statements are definite and thus the only canon information we have for the topic. Visionaries is s-canon-esque and is overridden by other content, so Sithisis disguise representation is essentially false. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  23:27, May 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * If Sithisis is S-Canon (we treat the Albino Cyclops stuff as C-Canon, so how in the name of the... well, albino cyclops, could it possibly be), a brief sentence about it still belongs BtS, definitely, because S-Canon is "canon until proven otherwise", not "non-canon until proven otherwise". Too fuzzy for the main section, maybe, yes. Another thing: Here's an example of "Jedi Counceling" stats: http://web.archive.org/web/20090603072956/https://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=starwars/article/sw20050623jc68 (6th Q&A.) There is no reason they can't be used as a source for the Troig article. I don't see how Force mask, with an article of its own citing Sarli's Jedi Counceling, shouldn't be in the Palpatine article. I don't see why it shouldn't be in the main section as well, actually. Anyway, I'll keep working on it tomorrow, cleaning it up and making sure nothing's left unsourced (should also get citations for that Force Mask article as well). --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 (talk) 23:39, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Trash compactor/Culture of Naboo
I have closed this thread with a consensus to merge. I will leave it to you as the nominator to merge it yourself and/or arrange for others to help with it or do it for you. When finished, feel free redirect the page to the article you feel most appropriate as a target, since it is a plausible search query. undefined