Wookieepedia:Inquisitorius/Log/2016 August 7

[19:35] <@Toprawa> !inqsignal [19:35] <@Nuku-Nuku> Cade and/or Calrayn! CavalierOne! Darth_Culator! Exiledjedi! GreenTentacle! IFYLOFD! Supreme_Emperor! Toprawa and/or Ralltiir! [19:35] <@IFYLOFD> yo [19:35] <@Toprawa> Let's do this [19:35] <@exiledjedi> All righty. [19:36] <@Culator|Away> Super. [19:36] <@Culator|Away> Inqmoot 79 is called to order, or something resembling order. [19:37] <@Toprawa> I have a discussion matter for us, if I may. [19:37] <@Toprawa> We can do this whenever [19:37] <@Culator|Away> I was about to call for new business, so have at it. [19:37] <@Toprawa> Ok [19:37] <@Toprawa> Well [19:37] <@Toprawa> As perhaps we [19:37] <@Toprawa> 're all aware [19:37] <@Toprawa> Cade hasn't been heard of for 5+ weeks http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?limit=250&tagfilter=&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Cade+Calrayn&namespace=&tagfilter=&year=&month=-1 [19:38] * Culator|Away is now known as Darth_Culator [19:38] <@Toprawa> I want this to be done totally aboveboard, so I'm bringing it up here first [19:38] <@Toprawa> His FAN, Revan, has undergone some pretty major factual changes recently [19:39] <@Toprawa> Some sections have been totally rewritten and/or majorly expanded [19:39] <@Toprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Revan?action=history [19:39] <@Toprawa> Re: This DarthAnt character [19:39] <@Toprawa> It's the kind of thing the author himself should go through and address, but he's not here [19:40] <@Toprawa> It's the kind of thing I would object to if Cade were active [19:40] <@Toprawa> Correct me if I'm wrong, but we have a clause that allows to remove idle FANs if the nominator has not edited for a month or more. [19:40] <@Toprawa> I believe Revan qualifies for this situation [19:41] <@exiledjedi> I believe that is the case. [19:41] <@Darth_Culator> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Inquisitorius_bylaws You are correct, sir. [19:41] <@Toprawa> We previously removed Mara Jade under similar circumstances at an Inqmoot, which met with some ire, so I would propose we ultimately hold a vote on the nomination page for Revan, but I thought we should discuss it here first [19:42] <@Darth_Culator> Cade's absence is a problem that is causing me some disconcernment. [19:42] <@Toprawa> In short, is there anyone who disagrees with doing this? [19:42] <@exiledjedi> Not [19:42] <@exiledjedi> i [19:42] <@GreenTentacle> Nope [19:43] <@Toprawa> Very well [19:43] <@Darth_Culator> Has anyone tried to contact Cade? I have not as I'm not good with the people talking to. [19:43] <@Toprawa> I can send him an email [19:43] <@Toprawa> That's the best I can think of [19:43] <@Toprawa> He doesn't answer his Facebook page [19:43] <@Toprawa> I'll give him a chance to come back and address his nom [19:44] <@Darth_Culator> I'd prefer we make at least one attempt to metaphorically light a fire under his ass. [19:44] <@Toprawa> Otherwise I'll start a removal vote [19:44] <@Toprawa> Yeah, that's fair [19:44] <@Darth_Culator> But then go for it, yes. [19:44] <@GreenTentacle> Sounds reasonable. [19:45] <@Toprawa> Back to you, Culator [19:45] <@Darth_Culator> I have one idea I've been toying with. [19:46] <@Darth_Culator> A long time ago, we tried to label the nominations with a code indicating the reviews required to pass. But this "INQCON" code was obscure and ultimately killed. [19:47] <@Darth_Culator> What I would like to do is to add a line below the vote count explicitly listing the votes and types required. As in (1 INQ or 2 user votes still required) [19:47] <@Darth_Culator> Thoughts? [19:48] <@Toprawa> This is tempting me to go on a tirade about people who are the 8th user vote on a GAN when it only needs 2, while everything else on the page goes unreviewed [19:49] <@Darth_Culator> Well, with something like this, people won't have ANY excuse for being so redundant. :P [19:49] <@Toprawa> My first thought is, why do we need this because I feel like people should be smart enough to know how many votes are required per nom and then not waste their time with superfluous votes [19:49] <@Toprawa> But I realize I'm expecting far too much from people [19:50] <@Toprawa> So maybe this will help those of us who are counting deficient [19:50] <@Darth_Culator> Exactly. It's a convenience tool. It will also bring attention to the value of regular user votes. [19:50] <@Toprawa> Can we do negative numbers? :P [19:50] <@Toprawa> Like if it needs 3 user votes, and we get 5, it will say NEEDS -2 USER VOTES :P [19:51] <@Darth_Culator> I... think we'll leave it at zero. No need to get sassy. [19:52] <@exiledjedi> I don't know, sometimes it is nice to get sassy. [19:52] <@Toprawa> I seriously suspect people who are the 9th user vote think they're somehow getting it to move faster [19:52] <@Toprawa> Maybe once it reaches the required number of user votes, it can say NEEDS 0 -- GO REVIEW SOMETHING ELSE [19:53] <@Darth_Culator> (2 INQ votes required. 0 user votes required, please consider reviewing another article.) [19:55] <@Toprawa> You be professional, then [19:55] <@Toprawa> I'm not in the mood :P [19:55] <@Darth_Culator> Fair enough. [19:55] <@Darth_Culator> If nobody has any objections, I'll implement it after the moot. [19:55] <@Toprawa> 0 user votes required, your vote is required in another castle [19:57] <@exiledjedi> Sure, that is fine with me. [19:57] <@Darth_Culator> Everyone else, can we get a yay or nay on this little tiny change that has a faint hope of accelerating reviews? [19:57] <@Toprawa> Do it [19:57] <@GreenTentacle> Why not. [19:58] <@IFYLOFD> yesh [19:58] <@Darth_Culator> Cool. Motion passes, any other new business? [19:58] <@Toprawa> Can it have a little avatar of the Count from Sesame Street :P [19:58] <@Darth_Culator> I assume that's a no. So let's kill some articles. [19:59] <@Darth_Culator> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Zekka_Thyne [19:59] <@Darth_Culator> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Zekka_Thyne [19:59] <@Darth_Culator> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=6348892 [20:00] <@Toprawa> Why do we update and then note remove the update tag? [20:00] <@GreenTentacle> Wasn't sure I got everything? There didn't seem like much. [20:00] <@Toprawa> Who updated that, AL-BRT? [20:00] <@GreenTentacle> Er, that shouldn't have been a question mark. [20:00] <@Darth_Culator> AL-BRT is a bot. I'd be concerned if it updated an article. [20:01] <@Darth_Culator> Here's the important diff, http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Zekka_Thyne&diff=6348922&oldid=6348892 [20:01] <@Toprawa> I'd think the robots finally had arrived [20:01] <@Toprawa> Which would be ok with me [20:01] <@Toprawa> Keep [20:01] <@Darth_Culator> Alright, SE and Cav say keep. I concur. [20:02] <@exiledjedi> Keep [20:02] <@Darth_Culator> IFYLOFD? [20:02] <@Darth_Culator> Going once, going twice. [20:02] <@Darth_Culator> Article kept. [20:02] <@Darth_Culator> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Elassar_Targon [20:03] <@Darth_Culator> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Elassar_Targon [20:03] <@Darth_Culator> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=6348896 [20:03] <@Darth_Culator> ELASSAR TARGON MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE [20:03] <@Toprawa> Keep [20:03] <@Toprawa> I'd like to re-read those sometime [20:03] <@exiledjedi> Keep [20:04] <@Darth_Culator> I just re-read all the Zahn books, next I'm starting on the X-wing series. [20:04] <@Darth_Culator> Anyway, absentees say keep, I say keep. [20:04] <@Toprawa> Will you read his new Thrawn book, even just to read a Zahn? [20:04] <@Darth_Culator> No. [20:04] <@IFYLOFD> keep [20:04] <@Toprawa> I respect your decision. [20:04] <@exiledjedi> I will not be reading it either. [20:05] <@exiledjedi> His later books were rather dull. [20:05] <@Darth_Culator> THIS IS NOT A PRODUCTIVE AREA OF DISCUSSION [20:05] <@Darth_Culator> He-Man and the masters of the universe kept. [20:05] <@Darth_Culator> New articles. [20:05] <@Darth_Culator> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Upper_City_Cantina [20:05] <@Toprawa> I'm assuming the dude is correct [20:06] <@Toprawa> I don't know why we would name the article and refer to the subject as Upper City Cantina if it was conjectural [20:06] <@exiledjedi> I believe that is its actual name. [20:06] <@exiledjedi> But I haven't played that game in 5+ years. [20:06] <@Darth_Culator> I don't recall enough about the source in that detail to say for sure. [20:07] <@Darth_Culator> So I default to probe. [20:07] <@Toprawa> Probe [20:07] <@GreenTentacle> Probe while someone checks. [20:07] <@IFYLOFD> probbb [20:07] <@exiledjedi> Probe [20:07] <@Darth_Culator> Mmkay, sending a probe into the cantina. [20:07] <@Darth_Culator> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dromund_Kaas_operation [20:07] <@Toprawa> This is the same situation as Revan [20:08] <@Toprawa> Only from a different user [20:08] <@exiledjedi> Probe [20:08] <@Toprawa> Probe [20:08] <@Darth_Culator> I have no idea what's going on. [20:08] <@Darth_Culator> Probe. [20:08] <@GreenTentacle> Probe [20:09] <@Darth_Culator> Welp, that's that. Probulated. [20:10] <@Darth_Culator> Nothing else in the maintenance doohickeymabob. [20:10] <@Toprawa> WOw [20:10] <@Darth_Culator> Though the 'major edits' on Satele and mr. scary guy will cause issues later. [20:10] <@Toprawa> Indeed [20:10] <@exiledjedi> Mr. Scary Guy? [20:11] <@Darth_Culator> But for now, we're done. Good meeting. [20:11] <@Darth_Culator> Valkorion. [20:11] <@Darth_Culator> The soul eater. [20:11] <@Darth_Culator> Any parting words, or are we concluded? [20:11] <@Toprawa> Cavalier One does paperwork [20:11] <@Toprawa> SE schedules Meeting 80 [20:11] <@Darth_Culator> Super. [20:12] <@exiledjedi> Farewell all. [20:12] <@Darth_Culator> I declare this meeting closed, or something.