Wookieepedia:Inquisitorius/Log/2008 February 23

[19:14] * Darth_Culator sets mode: -i [19:14] <@The4dotelipsis> Amii Stewart should be involved in more Inq meetings. [19:14] * AdmirableAckbar (n=chatzill@REDACTED) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [19:14] <@Ataru> Heh heh. [19:14] <@Darth_Culator> Who? [19:14] <@Ataru> I once again bid everyone dim, but very evil greetings. [19:14] <@Gonk|Busy> Commence logging, somebody besides me. [19:14] <@Ataru> :-) [19:15] <@The4dotelipsis> Who? Only the arbiter of the greatest music video ever. [19:15] <@Ataru> Someone logging? [19:15] <@Darth_Culator> Always. [19:15] <@Ataru> Good. [19:15] * Jedi_Goodwood (i=chatzill@REDACTED) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [19:15] <@The4dotelipsis> http://fosterinn.blog.is/users/09/fosterinn/img/c_documents_and_settings_fosterinn_my_documents_my_pictures_amii-stewart-knock-on-wood-98737.jpg - Such brilliance. [19:15] <@Ataru> If Fiolli comes on, give him a badge. [19:15] <@Ataru> First agenda item: [19:15] <@Ataru> Beilert Valance. [19:15] * Eyrezer (n=chatzill@REDACTED) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [19:15] * Nuku-Nuku sets mode: +o Eyrezer [19:15] <@The4dotelipsis> "You carry a badge?" "Yes." "Carry a gun." [19:16] <@The4dotelipsis> Linky. [19:16] <@Ataru> Has some unsourced stuff, no source in P&T [19:16] <@GreenTentacle> !wiki Beilert Valance [19:16] <@Nuku-Nuku> GreenTentacle: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/_Beilert_Valance [19:16] <@Ataru> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Beilert_Valance [19:16] <@Ataru> No source in infobox. [19:16] <@The4dotelipsis> I'm too lazy for that. :P [19:16] * Star|Out is now known as StarNeptune [19:16] <@Ataru> I've already told Erik about it. [19:16] <@Ataru> Hello Star. [19:16] <@StarNeptune> Hi [19:16] * White_Hawk (i=Whitehwk@REDACTED) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [19:16] <@The4dotelipsis> OK, look, I think this is a case of "quick fix easier than removing it" [19:16] <@Gonk|Busy> Probation [19:16] <@Ataru> Probation. Rules be rules, even if he fixes it. [19:17] <@Graestan> No sourcing in P&T? Kill. [19:17] <@The4dotelipsis> Eh, I suppose. Probation, then. [19:17] <@GreenTentacle> The infobox isn't enough. The unsourced P&T is. [19:17] <@GreenTentacle> Probation. [19:17] <@Ataru> Culator? JainaSolo? [19:17] <@Ataru> Star? [19:17] <@Ataru> LH? [19:17] <@JainaSolo> Probation [19:17] <@Darth_Culator> Must go through the proper procedure, else the red tape factories go out of business. [19:17] * @Ataru is excited; we have high attendance. [19:17] <@Darth_Culator> Tag it. [19:17] <@LordHydronium> Unsourced P&T? Yeah, le probate. [19:17] <@Ataru> That's 7. Tagged and bagged. [19:17] <@Ataru> 8. [19:18] <@Ataru> Next up: Mandalore the Ultimate. [19:18] <@GreenTentacle> Probation. [19:18] <@Ataru> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mandalore_the_Ultimate [19:18] <@GreenTentacle> Not up to date. [19:18] <@The4dotelipsis> !wiki Mandalore the Promiscuous [19:18] <@Nuku-Nuku> The4dotelipsis: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/_Mandalore_the_Promiscuous [19:18] <@Gonk|Busy> Anal probation. [19:18] <@The4dotelipsis> ! [19:18] <@Ataru> The update tag is sort of a bad thing. [19:18] * @JainaSolo (REDACTED@REDACTED) Quit ("CGI:IRC (EOF)"�) [19:18] <@Darth_Culator> Updating is needed. Probation is called for. [19:18] <@StarNeptune> orry, I was cathching up :P [19:18] <@Ataru> Update. [19:18] <@The4dotelipsis> The image use alone is a travisty. [19:18] <@Graestan> Probation. [19:18] <@Ataru> It's all good, Star. [19:18] <@The4dotelipsis> Probation. [19:18] <@Gonk|Busy> two S's in that, 4dot [19:19] <@The4dotelipsis> Ho-ho! [19:19] <@LordHydronium> Yeah, the Handbook information is really important, too. [19:19] <@Graestan> Or one "e" :P [19:19] <@Ataru> I have 5. . . LH? GreenTentacle? [19:19] <@LordHydronium> Probate. [19:19] <@GreenTentacle> Already voted. :P [19:19] <@StarNeptune> Probate [19:19] <@The4dotelipsis> Grae: I get confused these days. [19:19] * JainaSolo (n=REDACTED@REDACTED) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [19:19] <@Ataru> I have 8 again, I think. [19:19] * Darth_Culator sets mode: +o JainaSolo [19:19] <@LordHydronium> The Handbook calls into question whether the TOTJ guy and the KOTOR guy are even the same. [19:19] * Ataru sets mode: +o JainaSolo [19:19] <@LordHydronium> So...yeah, that needs to be in there. [19:19] <@JainaSolo> Probation [19:19] <@Ataru> Therefore, Mandalore will be probe(ate)d [19:19] <@Ataru> :-P [19:19] <@Graestan> per LH [19:20] <@Darth_Culator> So wouldn't that make the TOTJ guy Mandalore the Penultimate? [19:20] <@LordHydronium> XD [19:20] <@Ataru> Next agenda item is Imp's thing, which I modified. [19:20] <@Graestan> Mandalores may not have such a great life expectancy. Especially marooned on Dxun. [19:20] <@GreenTentacle> Ataru: Wait! [19:20] <@Ataru> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Meeting_Fifteen#Agenda [19:20] <@The4dotelipsis> If they were different, that would so suck. [19:20] <@Ataru> GreenTentacle: yes/ [19:20] <@Ataru> ? [19:20] <@GreenTentacle> Before we get into lengthy discussions, can't we go over the current probies? [19:20] * Jedi_Goodwood (i=chatzill@REDACTED) has left #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [19:20] <@Graestan> Ah; good idea. [19:20] <@Ataru> I suppose we could. . . it's at the end. [19:20] <@Ataru> Okay, we'll do that first. [19:20] <@Ataru> Jedi Civil War: [19:20] <@Ataru> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jedi_Civil_War&diff=1795602&oldid=1757157 [19:21] <@Ataru> Lots of work done, I say keep. [19:21] <@Graestan> Keep. [19:21] <@GreenTentacle> Has Goodwood finished with it? [19:21] <@Graestan> Dinnae. [19:21] <@Ataru> Si. [19:21] <@LordHydronium> At a glance it looks like the objections have been covered. [19:21] <@StarNeptune> Keep [19:21] <@GreenTentacle> His last edit summary was "Waiting to drop my masterpiece..." which implies he hasn't. [19:21] <@LordHydronium> Unless someone points out something I don't see, keep. [19:22] <@JainaSolo> Keep [19:22] <@Ataru> He said it needs copyediting and source-checking, but it's basically done. [19:22] <@Graestan> True. [19:22] <@GreenTentacle> And it's halved in size. [19:22] <@Ataru> I say keep, but have an eye on it in case he doesn't finish. [19:22] <@GreenTentacle> I say leave it on probation. [19:22] <@Ataru> A lot of that was a list. [19:22] <@The4dotelipsis> I would like to see it conform a bit more to the standard of other War articles, but whatever. [19:23] <@Ataru> Consensus says Keep, under condition that Goodwood finishes the work he started. [19:23] <@Ataru> Next up: Kadann [19:23] <@Graestan> Yes, and he will. [19:23] <@GreenTentacle> Fair enough. [19:23] <@Ataru> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Kadann&diff=1803795&oldid=1757156 [19:23] <@Ataru> Pathetically little done. [19:23] <@GreenTentacle> Kill! [19:24] <@Ataru> Kill with extreme prejudice. [19:24] <@JainaSolo> Kill it [19:24] <@StarNeptune> Nothing has been done? [19:24] <@The4dotelipsis> Well, I'm glad someone fixed the FA Remove template. [19:24] <@Ataru> Nothing. [19:24] <@Ataru> That was me. :-P [19:24] <@LordHydronium> Requirement was sourcing. No sourcing. Le morte. [19:24] <@StarNeptune> Remove [19:24] <@The4dotelipsis> Yeah, this is bad. [19:24] <@The4dotelipsis> Remove. [19:24] <@Graestan> Kill. [19:24] <@Darth_Culator> Per the growing snowball. [19:24] <@StarNeptune> Oh yeah, "false Kadann" became "False Kadann" [19:24] <@Ataru> I have 7. . . 8 whatever, it's dead. [19:24] <@Ataru> Next meeting. [19:24] <@Gonk|Busy> lol [19:24] <@Ataru> *item [19:24] <@StarNeptune> Other than that...meh [19:25] <@Ataru> Okay, now it's time for the long discussion stuff. [19:25] <@Ataru> Back to Imp's modified agenda item. [19:25] <@GreenTentacle> Eh. [19:25] <@GreenTentacle> There's two more. [19:25] <@StarNeptune> Oh joy [19:25] <@The4dotelipsis> That saucy fellow! [19:25] <@Ataru> Do we prefer to have a small "dedicated" group of Inqs, or a large group of somewhat inactive people? [19:25] <@Ataru> Imp wants the former. [19:25] <@Gonk|Busy> Latter [19:25] <@The4dotelipsis> Define inactive. [19:25] <@Graestan> Latter. [19:25] <@Ataru> I question the definition of "dedicated" [19:25] <@StarNeptune> Latter [19:25] <@Ataru> The4dotelipsis: You're a good example of the latter at the moment. :-P [19:25] <@GreenTentacle> Latter. [19:26] <@Ataru> You come and go. [19:26] <@Darth_Culator> Keep as-is. [19:26] <@Ataru> I think a lot of us do. [19:26] <@Graestan> Old hands will always come and go. We all get tired of reading noms all the time. [19:26] <@LordHydronium> Define "Wookieehiatus". :P [19:26] <@Gonk|Busy> 4dot is, imo, a case study of why Imp's plan is flawed. [19:26] <@GreenTentacle> As I've said many times, being an Inq is about being trusted to do it. [19:26] <@Graestan> per GT [19:26] <@Gonk|Busy> 4dot is indeed very inactive... but attentive! [19:26] <@Ataru> I agree. I vote for the latter option. [19:26] <@The4dotelipsis> I support cracking down on people who readily contribute but fail to Inq during that time. [19:26] <@Graestan> no one would be on the panel otherwise [19:26] <@Ataru> Per The4dotelipsis. [19:26] <@The4dotelipsis> I don't support on cracking down on people who takes breaks from Wookieepedia. That's only human. I think. [19:26] <@Ataru> And dedication on Wookieepedia is a very haphazard thing. [19:26] <@Graestan> 4Dot: Depends on if most of the noms are rough for a while; seen that before. [19:26] <@Darth_Culator> Human? We don't want any of their kind here! [19:27] * @Graestan hates overly rough noms [19:27] <@The4dotelipsis> For instance, and I know this seems like a witch hunt, but Havac in previous months. [19:27] <@Ataru> In that case, is there anyone who someone would like to discuss removing? [19:27] <@The4dotelipsis> Constant outpour of FA. [19:27] <@The4dotelipsis> Very little Inqing. [19:27] <@Ataru> Fourdot: You jumped the gun, but whatever :-P [19:27] <@Graestan> It's not a witch hunt. Havac is one guy. [19:27] <@LordHydronium> He was doing some Inqing not that long ago. [19:27] <@The4dotelipsis> Well, there are others. [19:27] <@Darth_Culator> Meh. [19:27] <@Ataru> For his own articles maybe. [19:27] <@The4dotelipsis> Personal boycotts of article types are not acceptable. :P [19:27] <@Graestan> Wha? [19:28] <@Graestan> LOL [19:28] <@LordHydronium> Does he Inq his own articles and not others? That would be troublesome. [19:28] <@Ataru> Havac doesn't really Inq. [19:28] <@Ataru> LH: Yes, basically. [19:28] <@Graestan> Indeed. [19:28] <@GreenTentacle> He's done a bit. [19:28] <@GreenTentacle> But not much. [19:28] <@LordHydronium> Ataru: He was reviewing Shysa and talking to me about it recently, actually. [19:28] <@LordHydronium> But I haven't kept track of what else./ [19:28] <@LordHydronium> Sounds like not a lot. [19:28] <@GreenTentacle> And hasn't really stuck to the agreement last time. [19:28] <@Ataru> Heh, well, if he still reviews, then that's one thing. [19:28] <@Ataru> Agreement? [19:28] <@Ataru> Which agreement was this? [19:28] <@GreenTentacle> That we only use the vote on our own if we're using it on others. [19:28] <@The4dotelipsis> What if he reviews one thing, though? [19:28] <@LordHydronium> 4dot had the two-for-one rule of thumb, which I kinda liked. [19:28] <@GreenTentacle> We didn't make a firm rule. [19:29] <@LordHydronium> Two other articles for every one of your own. [19:29] <@Graestan> Acky set a good example by deciding that writing and not reviewing was more for him. I wish others who feel the same could follow suit, but hey, what's the harm in them keeping the title? [19:29] <@Ataru> Heh. I think he's barely getting by, and would support him being asked to step it up or step it out. [19:29] <@The4dotelipsis> Ah, yes, I remember that. Like I remember Helen Hunt. Good idea at the time, but it's hardly timeless. [19:29] <@GreenTentacle> It was supposed to be left to judgment. [19:29] <@GreenTentacle> But maybe we need an enforceable rule. [19:29] <@LordHydronium> I think someone should at least ask him to stop using the Inq tag on his own if he's not using it on others. [19:29] <@The4dotelipsis> Yeah, we need to tighten the thumb-screws. [19:29] <@Gonk|Busy> Or maybe just a more clear "guideline" [19:29] <@GreenTentacle> If you don't read one for every one you write, don't use your Inq vote. [19:29] <@Graestan> Per LH. [19:29] <@GreenTentacle> Something like that. [19:30] <@Graestan> Also, I think it's important to read others' noms, else you think only your way is FA-worthy. [19:30] <@Ataru> I like the idea of a general guideline, not a hard and fast rule per se. [19:30] <@The4dotelipsis> The harm with people holding the title and not doing anything is that every one of us is an example to others of what Inqship is. [19:30] <@Ataru> Because reading Tycho is like reading 5 Chak Fels! [19:30] <@Ataru> :-P [19:30] * @Gonk|Busy actually does intend to read Tycho, btw [19:30] <@GreenTentacle> Well, sure, a guideline. [19:30] <@LordHydronium> Yeah, no hard rules. [19:30] <@Ataru> I intend to finish it. [19:31] <@GreenTentacle> But I don't mind people contributing but not Inqing. [19:31] <@GreenTentacle> As long as they don't abuse their vote for their own articles. [19:31] <@LordHydronium> Yeah, same here. [19:31] <@Graestan> I agree. [19:31] <@Ataru> Any ideas on what the guideline should be, or do we want nebulous consensus that voting for your own without inqing is bad? [19:31] <@Ataru> I agree with GT, btw. [19:31] <@Gonk|Busy> I like nebulous consensus for now, but [19:31] <@Graestan> I'd say the two-to-one rule is fair. [19:31] <@Ataru> Jaina? Star? Any thoughts from the female side? [19:31] <@The4dotelipsis> I don't. It's a job you've signed up to do, if you're on Wookieepedia, you do your job, but maybe I'm too much of a Nazi. [19:32] <@Gonk|Busy> I think maybe we want something more vague-guideline-y to be established at the next Inq meeting [19:32] <@JainaSolo> Breathes hasn't been contributing [19:32] <@GreenTentacle> We had nebulous consensus at the last meeting. [19:32] <@Ataru> I don't want a hard and fast rule. . . just a general guideline. [19:32] <@GreenTentacle> It doesn't seem to have worked. [19:32] <@Ataru> JainaSolo: Good point. [19:32] <@Graestan> Heck, how long is an average Dot FAN? Maybe ten minutes of reading and checking. [19:32] <@GreenTentacle> We need something more solid. [19:32] <@The4dotelipsis> Ten whole minutes! [19:32] <@Graestan> I know. [19:32] <@Ataru> GT: Okay, but 1 nom read for every 1 article promoted means that at most, I only have to Inq 20 articles. [19:32] <@Graestan> You'd think they were cops on a stakeout. [19:33] <@LordHydronium> Meh. I'm really not sure how solid we can get. Like Ataru says, a Tycho and a Chak are both one article, but very different in terms of time commitment. [19:33] <@Ataru> I've only promoted 20 articles to FA; I only have to read 20 noms? [19:33] <@StarNeptune> Only? [19:33] <@StarNeptune> :P [19:33] <@Gonk|Busy> per Star :) [19:33] <@Ataru> That's unfair and not exactly reasonable. [19:33] * @Gonk|Busy has ONE whole FA under his belt 8) [19:33] <@Graestan> LH: In that case, those less willing to devote time can leave Tycho to me ;) [19:33] <@LordHydronium> Consensus towards no self-Inqing, largely use personal judgment, Inq crackdown if it's obvious someone's abusing that. [19:33] <@Ataru> For example, Gonk reading Mara (ty again) is equivalent to probably all of my Inqing over Februrary. [19:33] <@Ataru> Per LH. [19:33] <@The4dotelipsis> Yeah, look, this shouldn't be mandatory at all, but for god's sake, it's volunteer work. You volunteer, you do the work. [19:34] <@Ataru> I'm going to go with that. [19:34] <@Gonk|Busy> per LH [19:34] <@Gonk|Busy> That guideliney enough, GT? [19:34] <@StarNeptune> per 4dot [19:34] <@Ataru> Jaina brought up Breathes, and she brings up a good point. [19:34] <@JainaSolo> per LH [19:34] <@The4dotelipsis> How about this: You can only self-Inq if you've reviewed 50% of the noms above yours. [19:34] <@GreenTentacle> Not really. [19:34] <@Graestan> per LH, but Jeez, do we have to be so wimpy about the crackdowns? [19:34] <@GreenTentacle> That's what we agreed before. [19:34] <@Ataru> Breathes was brought up a couple meetings ago as not contributing, and she hasn't done anything AFAIK. [19:34] <@Eyrezer> you could not self-Inq at all... [19:35] <@Ataru> And I'm assuming we're going to talk to Havac about this crackdown, right? [19:35] <@Graestan> Hopefully. [19:35] <@GreenTentacle> Guess we'll have to. [19:35] <@GreenTentacle> I wouldn't go as far as Eyrezer. [19:35] <@Eyrezer> :) [19:35] <@Ataru> Someone else besides me should talk to Havac; we don't see eye-to-eye on a lot of things. [19:35] <@The4dotelipsis> Martyr! :P [19:35] <@GreenTentacle> We should be able to vote for our own. [19:35] <@Graestan> I support the ability to self-Inq because there are plenty of Inqs who'd never drop a rough nom. [19:35] <@GreenTentacle> But not excessively. [19:36] <@LordHydronium> Well, that's where the balance comes in. [19:36] <@Ataru> I agree, and I generally self-Inq. It helps speed things along, and I generally don't write trash. [19:36] <@The4dotelipsis> I think self-Inqing is OK. If you're nominating it, you pretty much think it's ready for FA, surely. [19:36] <@LordHydronium> I like two-for-one as my rule of thumb. [19:36] * @Gonk|Busy volunteers to talk to Havac [19:36] <@LordHydronium> It seems to work. [19:36] <@Ataru> Thanks Gonk. [19:36] <@Ataru> *New agenda item: What about Breathes?* [19:36] <@Ataru> Sorry, but we have consensus, IMHO, so I'm moving on! [19:36] <@GreenTentacle> No problem with Breathes. [19:36] <@LordHydronium> She's still around? :P [19:37] <@GreenTentacle> We just agreed we don't have to vote. [19:37] <@Ataru> The girl hasn't Inq'd a thing since Winter and she's already been warned. I say move her on out. [19:37] <@GreenTentacle> If she comes back and does some voting it should still count. [19:37] <@GreenTentacle> As long as she doesn't vote for a bunch of her own only. [19:37] <@Ataru> GT: Imp already gave her that chance, if you ask me. [19:37] <@The4dotelipsis> "What about Breathes? It isn't fair...I've had enough now I want my share; can't you see, I wanna live...but you just take more than you give!" [19:37] <@Ataru> Winter was her own, IIRC. [19:37] <@GreenTentacle> Then you agree with Imp. [19:37] * White_Hawk (i=Whitehwk@REDACTED) has left #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [19:38] <@The4dotelipsis> Yeah...seems like having an ashtray on a motorbike. [19:38] <@Ataru> Only in the sense of what 4dot was saying. [19:38] <@GreenTentacle> Can't have it both ways. [19:38] <@Graestan> I agree with Imp, as well, on that instance. [19:38] <@Ataru> If you never, ever touch anything, you shouldn't be in it. [19:38] <@The4dotelipsis> I'd support her resignation. [19:38] <@Ataru> You volunteer, you do the work. [19:38] <@Gonk|Busy> Has she expressed a desire to remain an Inq? [19:38] <@GreenTentacle> We seem to have missed the point somewhere. [19:39] * The4dotelipsis is now known as TheAwayDot [19:39] <@Ataru> Gonk: She hasn't been on since Imp warned here. [19:39] <@Ataru> So it's hard to tell. [19:39] <@Graestan> She said something passing on Riff's FB wall about needing to check out the Wook again sometime, but otherwise, nothing. [19:39] <@GreenTentacle> She hasn't expressed anything in months. :P [19:39] <@Ataru> She hasn't really been on Wookieepedia at all since August 2007. [19:39] <@Gonk|Busy> Perhaps we'd best wait then? She's known for prolonged absences afaik [19:40] <@Ataru> And really not since July. [19:40] <@Ataru> Feh, I suppose. [19:40] <@Gonk|Busy> Let's meet again in July :DD [19:40] <@Ataru> I'm just tired of having people who really and truly, haven't touched a *thing* in six months. [19:40] <@GreenTentacle> But there's no problem with that. [19:40] * Xwing328|FOOD is now known as Xwing328 [19:41] <@GreenTentacle> Again, being an Inq just means that if, and when, you do vote, we can trust that you read it properly. [19:41] <@Graestan> I'd like to think that as Inqs we are a little more dedicated than the average user, or unfortunately the average admin. [19:41] <@Ataru> Heh, whatever. No consensus on removing Inqship, moving on. [19:41] <@GreenTentacle> If you only vote once a year, there's no problem. [19:41] <@Ataru> next item up: The Toprawa report. [19:41] <@Graestan> GT: Never really seen an example of why I should trust breathes as an Inq since I became an active user. [19:41] <@Ataru> Star, I assume you and Jaina haven't read it. [19:41] <@StarNeptune> I read it [19:41] <@Graestan> I sent it to Star. [19:41] <@Xwing328> that guys dedicated - but most of the stuff does seem minor [19:42] <@JainaSolo> I didn't read it [19:42] <@StarNeptune> Mostly minor shit [19:42] <@Xwing328> infoxbox sourcing, etc. But it does need to be addressed, imo [19:42] <@Graestan> Lots of minor, but it's still good to know it's there. [19:42] <@GreenTentacle> Mostly minor. [19:42] <@Graestan> Even his list on the Inqmoot page is rather pedestrian. [19:42] <@Ataru> JainaSolo: I can send it to you in an e-mail if you want to give an e-mail address in a Private Message. [19:42] <@GreenTentacle> And we don't remove for infobox sourcing alone. [19:42] <@JainaSolo> Sure [19:43] <@Graestan> Still good to know it needs to be done. [19:43] <@Ataru> I say we review everything that has more than just infobox sourcing. [19:43] <@Gonk|Busy> Whaddya know [19:43] <@Gonk|Busy> Breathes is here [19:43] <@Ataru> I liked that he was willing to come up with the report. [19:43] <@Graestan> I agree. [19:43] <@Graestan> The intro pissed me off, though. [19:43] <@Eyrezer> lol - waxing poetic [19:43] <@GreenTentacle> Yeah, but I don't see the problem. [19:43] <@GreenTentacle> We do review them. [19:43] <@Xwing328> We could use some of the report's intro for the FA page - in case new people don't know what they are [19:44] <@Ataru> It showed initiative and such. . . even if he did state that we were a bit wrong. [19:44] <@Gonk|Busy> Yeah, that intro is kinda pompous [19:44] <@GreenTentacle> We've reviewed some tonight. [19:44] <@LordHydronium> There's quite a high horse being ridden throughout the report, I think. [19:44] <@GreenTentacle> So how is his proposal different? [19:44] <@Graestan> GT: It's just nice to know all in one shot, as opposed to slowly stumbling on each. [19:44] <@LordHydronium> "Are you kidding me with this quote?" No. No we're not. [19:44] <@GreenTentacle> But we're not going to put them all on probation at once. [19:44] <@Graestan> I certainly won't lie and say I like the attitude of it all. [19:44] * TheAwayDot is now known as The4dotelipsis [19:44] <@Graestan> Of course not. [19:45] <@Ataru> I agree. I think his intro is more out of ignorance than deliberate snark. [19:45] <@LordHydronium> And he's got the "source the self-sourcing" stuff that I mentioned before. [19:45] <@LordHydronium> I'm really not a fan of that. [19:45] <@Ataru> Again, I think that's ignorance, not snark. [19:45] <@Xwing328> Do we want to do a "Round Two" of sorts to go through all of the FAs again? [19:45] <@GreenTentacle> Per LH. [19:45] <@The4dotelipsis> What's this? [19:45] <@JainaSolo> Ataru: I having trouble with the private message function [19:45] <@The4dotelipsis> Tope's review? [19:45] <@LordHydronium> Yes. [19:45] <@Ataru> JainaSolo: Hmm, /query Ataru not working? [19:46] <@The4dotelipsis> Look, wherever he says "Infobox needs sourcing" (basically everything) we can just move on. Maybe someone can go through them and source them. It's not too hard. [19:46] <@Ataru> Per 4dot. [19:46] <@The4dotelipsis> It would have impressed me if he had done that. The report itself does not. [19:46] * Breathesgelatin (n=Susan_So@REDACTED) has joined #wookieepedia-inquisitorius [19:46] * Ataru sets mode: +o Breathesgelatin [19:46] * Darth_Culator sets mode: +o Breathesgelatin [19:46] * @StarNeptune hugs Breathes [19:46] <@Breathesgelatin> hullo [19:47] <@Breathesgelatin> hiiiii :) [19:47] * @Breathesgelatin hugs Star! [19:47] <@GreenTentacle> Speak of the devil. :P [19:47] <@Gonk|Busy> Ye gods! An Inq meeting... with HUGS?! [19:47] <@Ataru> Breathesgelatin: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Meeting_Fifteen#Agenda [19:47] <@Breathesgelatin> were you talking about me? :-O [19:47] <@JainaSolo> Ataru: Send it to REDACTED [19:47] <@Ataru> All three of the ladies are here, go figure. [19:47] <@Gonk|Busy> Mrs. Gonk is here too [19:47] <@Breathesgelatin> I don't even know who the other lady is [19:47] <@Breathesgelatin> oh Jaina and Star? [19:47] <@Gonk|Busy> watching over my shoulder :D [19:47] <@Breathesgelatin> are we the three? [19:47] <@GreenTentacle> That'd be Jaina. [19:47] <@JainaSolo> Hello [19:48] <@Graestan> I'm not a lady anymore? [19:48] <@The4dotelipsis> Hallo Mrs. Gonk. [19:48] <@GreenTentacle> And ChanServ obviously. [19:48] <@Ataru> Yep. I think this is the first time we've had all the female Inqs in the room at one time. [19:48] <@GreenTentacle> :P [19:48] <@Ataru> And Channie. [19:48] <@Ataru> :-P [19:48] <@Gonk|Busy> "Uh, hi, Person I Don't Know" [19:48] <@Breathesgelatin> ok, where are we in the schedule? [19:48] <@Ataru> JainaSolo: Sent it off, check your mail in a minute or so. [19:48] <@Nuku-Nuku> Uh, hello? [19:48] <@Ataru> We're currently on "Toprawa Report" [19:48] <@Breathesgelatin> I kind of want to make a statement, I don't know if that will be appropriate or not [19:48] <@The4dotelipsis> We're coming at you live from Melbourne, the swingin'st town this side of Wagga Wagga. [19:48] <@Breathesgelatin> about my status [19:49] <@Breathesgelatin> is that OK? [19:49] <@Ataru> Breathes: Go ahead. [19:49] <@Ataru> We don't follow the agenda that strictly. :-P [19:49] <@Xwing328> dangit, gtg again [19:49] * Xwing328 is now known as Xwing328|Away [19:49] <@Breathesgelatin> OK. I just wanted to state I do truly love Wookieepedia and I really want to maintain membership in the Inq and my administratorship [19:49] <@Breathesgelatin> but, I have an extremely busy life [19:49] <@JainaSolo> Thanks Ataru. [19:49] <@Breathesgelatin> I am currently writing my master's report and studying for my Ph.D. qualifying exams [19:49] <@Ataru> (Jaina) Np. [19:50] <@Breathesgelatin> said studying consists of reading over 150 300+ page books [19:50] <@Ataru> Blarg! [19:50] <@Breathesgelatin> plus I am in a committed relationship and I teach a college class. [19:50] * @Gonk|Busy knows this pain. [19:50] <@Gonk|Busy> *Except the relationship part [19:50] <@Ataru> So does Mrs. Gonk. :-P [19:50] <@Breathesgelatin> I also find the hostility that has been shown toward me by a few people pretty hurtful because if I could plan my time the way I wanted to, a lot of it would be on the wook. [19:50] * @Gonk|Busy says as he is smacked from behind [19:51] <@Breathesgelatin> there are lot of tasks I'm itching to do. [19:51] <@Breathesgelatin> I really do want to remain on the team so I am going to try to participate at least minimally in the FA/Inq stuff for now. [19:51] <@Graestan> Are you speaking of Imp when you say hostility? [19:51] <@Graestan> Or the base of users who pushed the admin absence CT? [19:52] <@Breathesgelatin> and hopefully, I'll be back once I (hopefully) pass my exams in August, and in a much larger way [19:52] <@Ataru> Breathesgelatin: That's good enough for me. If you're still remotely interested, than I have no problem with you staying in Inqship. [19:52] <@Gonk|Busy> per Ataru [19:52] <@GreenTentacle> Per Ataru. [19:52] <@Graestan> per Ataru [19:52] <@The4dotelipsis> If there's intent to return, I have no problem. [19:52] <@Breathesgelatin> um, I was referring more to some specific things that more than one user has said to me. [19:52] <@StarNeptune> Don't punish her for having a life...she says she's still interested and all [19:52] <@Ataru> Well, Jack's gone. Forever. :-P [19:52] <@Breathesgelatin> I didn't even realize there had been such a CT!!! eeeeek! [19:53] <@Graestan> Specific things? Hooray, suppose I'm scot-free! :P [19:53] <@Breathesgelatin> am I getting kicked off? [19:53] <@Graestan> Oh, the CT is very VERY lenient. [19:53] <@GreenTentacle> Not yet. [19:53] <@Graestan> MarcK and Aidje were the only ones at risk. [19:53] <@GreenTentacle> Just do some quick editing. [19:53] <@GreenTentacle> Find a typo. :P [19:53] <@Ataru> Consensus: Breathesgelatin is not evil. Nor is she banned from Inqship. Nor is she being sent to the corner for time-out. She's still loved and can play Inq any time she wants. [19:53] <@Breathesgelatin> haha. well I have some updating to do to Winter's page. and a few other things. [19:53] <@Ataru> Does that make you happy, Breathes? :-P [19:53] <@Breathesgelatin> OK, thanks y'all. :) [19:54] <@Breathesgelatin> I just felt like some people were angry at me and I didn't know how extensive that was. [19:54] <@GreenTentacle> Good. [19:54] <@GreenTentacle> Where were we? [19:54] <@Ataru> Toprawa report. [19:54] <@Breathesgelatin> Toprawa I believe [19:54] <@Breathesgelatin> yess [19:54] <@StarNeptune> Breatehs: know the feeling :P [19:54] <@Ataru> I think general consensus was that we review stuff that has more than infobox sourcing issues. [19:54] <@Ataru> If you promoted an article that needs the sourcing, fix it, but we're not going to get our panties in a twist over it. [19:54] <@GreenTentacle> Sure. [19:55] <@Graestan> Scratch Memit Nadill from that; we fixed it. [19:55] <@StarNeptune> Infobox isn;t even a requirement, is it? [19:55] <@Ataru> Even if you don't *wear* panties. [19:55] <@GreenTentacle> Schedule them for the next meeting. [19:55] <@Ataru> StarNeptune: Actually, it is now. [19:55] <@GreenTentacle> StarNeptune: It is now. [19:55] * @Breathesgelatin hugs Star again [19:55] <@Eyrezer> For many of the FAs, the manin writer of it should go back and source the infobox. I don't think it is enough to just say meh the infobox is not done [19:55] <@StarNeptune> I haven't seen it written anywhere [19:55] <@Ataru> Is that general consensus, or do we want to discuss it some more? [19:55] * @GreenTentacle hugs Nuku-Nuku. [19:55] <@GreenTentacle> !sex [19:55] <@Nuku-Nuku> GreenTentacle: My Prime Directive forbids me to do this. [19:55] <@GreenTentacle> Dang. [19:55] <@GreenTentacle> :P [19:55] <@Graestan> "Most-purpose catbot" [19:55] <@Ataru> Tentacle, get off the catbot! [19:55] <@Ataru> This is logged! [19:56] * @StarNeptune hugs Breatehs again [19:56] <@JainaSolo> lol [19:56] <@Graestan> Tentacles /and/ catbots? Oh, dear oh dear. [19:56] * @The4dotelipsis hugs Walter Cronkite. [19:56] <@StarNeptune> breathes even :P [19:56] <@Gonk|Busy> Per ...uh... general consensus [19:56] <@Breathesgelatin> my one issue with the infobox thing is that there are few topics or items that might not be easily categorized w/ an infobox [19:56] <@Breathesgelatin> eg "Padme Amidala's wardrobe" or something like that [19:56] <@Ataru> Breathesgelatin: All we're discussing is whether or not to reference stuff in the infobox. [19:56] <@StarNeptune> How do you source something like hair and eye color when the only source is a picture? [19:56] <@Ataru> ;-) [19:56] <@Graestan> per Star; I was befuddled [19:57] <@Ataru> StarNeptune: I source wherever the pic came from. [19:57] <@Breathesgelatin> oh, I thought we were saying it was required to be an FA. sorry I'm dumb. [19:57] <@Ataru> If the pic was from ANH, I would cite [19:57] <@StarNeptune> What if it's in multiple issues, like a comic? [19:57] <@GreenTentacle> What he said. [19:57] <@Ataru> Pick one. [19:57] <@Gonk|Busy> We had to have the rule because people kept changing Luke's hair color and stuff like that. [19:57] <@Graestan> How do I source Ooroo's hair color? [19:57] <@GreenTentacle> I just pick the first source. [19:57] <@Ataru> Seriously, that's what we do for material that's in multiple sources [19:57] <@Eyrezer> At first I was against infobox sourcing, but I think experience has shown it is necessary. It is too easy for fanon to get into the infoboxes otherwise [19:57] <@Ataru> Like "Luke Skywalker blew up the Death Star." [19:57] <@Ataru> There's a bajillion sources for that. [19:58] <@Ataru> Just pick one. [19:58] <@Eyrezer> heights are especially prone to inaccuracies [19:58] <@Ataru> Gonk: I know that "bajillion" is probably not a word. :-P [19:58] <@Gonk|Busy> >:( [19:58] <@LordHydronium> For stuff like height that's unlikely to be repeated in the prose, I agree its necessary. [19:59] <@LordHydronium> I'm less sure on other stuff. [19:59] <@LordHydronium> Like locations on planets (when those locations are linked right there), or eras. [19:59] <@Gonk|Busy> nope, eras too [19:59] <@LordHydronium> I know we have to. [19:59] <@Gonk|Busy> Fanonists love to play with those. [19:59] <@Graestan> Eras are frequently added by fanoneers. [19:59] <@LordHydronium> Well, then. [20:00] <@LordHydronium> Color me educated. [20:00] <@Ataru> Look, we're discussing whether it's worth hacking FA status off over that issue! [20:00] <@The4dotelipsis> For IU, sure. For OOU, it's just hilariously stupid. But it be dem rulezes! [20:00] <@Ataru> Not whether infobox sourcing is good or bad. [20:00] <@LordHydronium> Oh yeah, our OOU sourcing rules are dumb, dumb, dumb. [20:00] <@Eyrezer> I agree re OOU [20:00] <@Ataru> I say we should work towards sourcing them, but not review anything that only has infobox sourcing as a need. [20:00] <@GreenTentacle> Me too. [20:00] <@The4dotelipsis> Male[1] - Ma, be they gots a bit touched in dem dair headses? [20:00] <@Gonk|Busy> I agree that it's stupid for OOU. But don't come crying to me when Mark Hamill's hair color starts changing every day again. [20:00] <@LordHydronium> Before we removed that field I had some creative ideas for sourcing it. [20:01] <@Eyrezer> The great majority of FAs were written by ppl still around. They need to take responsibility for their FAs, such as me and Cull have done [20:01] <@Eyrezer> Cull and I* :p [20:01] <@Ataru> Yeah, I've been working on mine. [20:01] <@GreenTentacle> Gonk|Busy: Hair colour isn't in the OOU infobox. [20:01] <@The4dotelipsis> Gonk: To be fair, you could find sources for blonde and brown in that case. [20:01] <@Ataru> Ey: GONK SMASH! [20:01] <@GreenTentacle> Nor gender. [20:01] <@Ataru> :-P [20:01] <@The4dotelipsis> :P [20:01] * Gonk|Busy is now known as Gonk|Smash [20:01] <@Eyrezer> :) at least I acught myself [20:02] <@Ataru> Okay, we'll discuss that later. General consensus is to review everything that has more than infobox sourcing needed. If you wrote an FA that needs it, fix it. [20:02] <@Ataru> moving on [20:02] <@Ataru> "A minor thing here, but could we update the intros of FA's in the Queue before they go on the main page? IMO, seeing "wielding a flamboyant mohawk..." on there was the last straw. " [20:02] * @Gonk|Smash acughts himself [20:02] <@LordHydronium> I don't get that one. [20:02] <@Ataru> I wholeheartedly support this measure. [20:02] <@GreenTentacle> Sure. [20:02] <@GreenTentacle> As resident queue guy, I'll update them. [20:02] <@Darth_Culator> Flamboyant mohawk? [20:03] <@Darth_Culator> A-wha? [20:03] <@The4dotelipsis> Drebble. [20:03] <@Darth_Culator> Ah. [20:03] <@Gonk|Smash> One cannot wield a hairstyle. Unless one scalped someone. [20:03] <@The4dotelipsis> I support this. [20:03] <@LordHydronium> Ah. [20:03] <@Gonk|Smash> In which case one would be wielding a tomahawk, not a mohawk. [20:03] <@LordHydronium> Yeah, intros should be kept updated. [20:03] <@The4dotelipsis> It's especially important for characters in ongoing story arcs. [20:03] <@Ataru> LH: AFAIK, it means we update the intro before it goes onto the Main Page. [20:03] <@Ataru> Per 4dot. [20:03] <@Darth_Culator> I support scalping people with mohawks. [20:04] <@Breathesgelatin> lol [20:04] <@GreenTentacle> This doesn't need voting on. [20:04] <@Gonk|Smash> Per 4dot [20:04] <@Ataru> Ladies? (Jaina, StarNeptune, Breathesgelatin, Graestan :-P) [20:04] <@GreenTentacle> I've already said I'll do it. [20:04] <@Gonk|Smash> and Culator [20:04] <@Breathesgelatin> yes, definitely update intros. [20:04] <@The4dotelipsis> If we get CENSORED on the main page and it's still saying CENSORED, well... [20:04] <@The4dotelipsis> That won't do. [20:04] <@Ataru> j/k Graestan [20:04] * @Graestan bats eyelashes [20:04] <@JainaSolo> I support it [20:04] <@Graestan> I do declare. [20:04] <@Graestan> Support. [20:04] <@The4dotelipsis> I told you this would be the Crying Game all over again. [20:04] <@Ataru> Heh heh. [20:04] <@Gonk|Smash> SPOILER ALERT [20:05] <@Ataru> Well, if we all support this, then I think that concludes the agenda items on the meeting. (The last one was done second). [20:05] <@Ataru> Does anyone have anything else? [20:05] <@GreenTentacle> Not yet! [20:05] <@Graestan> Nyaa! [20:05] <@Graestan> Beg Cull to return. [20:05] <@Ataru> Graestan: Do you still support Pop-tarts? [20:05] <@Ataru> Oh, okay. [20:05] <@GreenTentacle> You missed two probies. [20:05] <@Graestan> Would we need to vote on his reinstatement if he agreed? [20:05] <@The4dotelipsis> Yeah. [20:05] <@Ataru> GT: Which two? [20:05] <@Ataru> Oh, Daala. [20:05] <@The4dotelipsis> Come Back, Little Cull. [20:05] <@Gonk|Smash> Support begging Cull [20:05] <@Ataru> Graestan: Probably. [20:05] <@StarNeptune> I asked Cull if he wanted to come back [20:05] <@The4dotelipsis> Daala? Heh. CENSORED. [20:05] <@GreenTentacle> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Natasi_Daala [20:06] <@The4dotelipsis> :O [20:06] <@StarNeptune> He said not at this time [20:06] <@The4dotelipsis> NATASI? [20:06] <@StarNeptune> Yes, Natasi [20:06] <@Ataru> I can't read Daala. [20:06] <@GreenTentacle> He told me he'd come back if we wanted him to. [20:06] <@Ataru> I'll be spoiled. [20:06] <@Graestan> Star: He could be reassured, and reassured again, until his ears bleed and he is afraid to say "no." [20:06] <@The4dotelipsis> Holy crap, the bitch gave her a first name! Yippee! [20:06] <@Darth_Culator> Natasi is "I SATAN" backward. [20:06] <@StarNeptune> rofl [20:06] <@Ataru> LOL [20:06] <@Ataru> LMAO. [20:06] <@Graestan> Traviss is indeed Satan. [20:06] * @The4dotelipsis does a Walter Huston dance. The4dotelipsis hates single names. [20:06] <@Breathesgelatin> Natasi is... wow. [20:06] <@StarNeptune> Now they need to give Zekk a last name [20:07] <@Darth_Culator> So the question is, why doesn't Karen like Daala? Did she offend the Mandos somehow? [20:07] <@Gonk|Smash> Zekk Athyne [20:07] <@The4dotelipsis> Zekk Ar. [20:07] <@Ataru> LOL. [20:07] <@The4dotelipsis> Get in, Zekk Ar! [20:07] <@JainaSolo> lol [20:07] <@Breathesgelatin> Zekk Kkez [20:07] <@Eyrezer> wow - that's sweet [20:07] <@Gonk|Smash> Natasi ... is that KJA's doing? [20:07] <@Ataru> No, KT. [20:07] <@Breathesgelatin> crazy KT [20:07] <@Ataru> Anyway, someone post the link to Daala and tell me if it's been fixed. [20:07] <@The4dotelipsis> Zekk Arr, bomb! [20:07] <@Breathesgelatin> how is Revelation? [20:08] <@Ataru> I can't read it. [20:08] <@Ataru> Not out yet. :-P [20:08] <@The4dotelipsis> Zekk Arr is in the garage. [20:08] <@StarNeptune> I have the book [20:08] <@StarNeptune> It's half decent [20:08] <@Ataru> Star: Would you grab the revision history link for us and post it? [20:08] <@StarNeptune> A lot of Mandos though [20:08] <@StarNeptune> Revision from what date? [20:08] <@GreenTentacle> Can we hurry up and kill this thing? [20:09] <@Darth_Culator> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Natasi_Daala&diff=1799100&oldid=1757159 [20:09] <@Ataru> There should be a revision that I made placing the article on probation. [20:09] <@GreenTentacle> It's got an update tag. [20:09] <@StarNeptune> It's got four damn tags on it [20:09] <@Ataru> Darth_Culator: Does it still deserve to die? [20:09] <@Ataru> KILL [20:09] <@GreenTentacle> Therefore, instant kill. [20:09] <@Graestan> Kill. [20:09] <@Ataru> Jaina? Breathes? Gonk? 4dot? [20:09] <@Ataru> LH? [20:09] <@Ataru> Update tags = Horrible, painful death. [20:09] <@JainaSolo> Kill [20:09] <@Darth_Culator> Bitchslap. [20:09] <@Breathesgelatin> kill [20:10] <@Ataru> Lots of Daala hatred. [20:10] <@Ataru> Gooooood. Goooooooood. [20:10] <@Ataru> :-) [20:10] <@The4dotelipsis> Break Daala's pants! [20:10] <@Gonk|Smash> oh, yes, kill [20:10] <@Breathesgelatin> I like Daala but she can't be FA with boxes [20:10] <@Gonk|Smash> SMASH, in fact [20:10] <@Ataru> Okay, is there anything else we need to smash? [20:10] <@Ataru> Or even just discuss? [20:10] <@GreenTentacle> !wiki Anzat [20:10] <@Nuku-Nuku> GreenTentacle: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/_Anzat [20:10] <@The4dotelipsis> Here's the Revelation: Daala should have been played by Carolyn Jones. [20:10] <@Darth_Culator> FA GO SMASH [20:10] <@Ataru> Oops, how did I miss that? [20:10] <@GreenTentacle> That's the last one. [20:10] <@LordHydronium> The article's done. The bitch is dead. [20:11] <@LordHydronium> (That's a kill vote, BTW.) [20:11] <@The4dotelipsis> Anzat doesn't follow the MOS, does it? [20:11] <@Ataru> What's it missing? [20:11] <@The4dotelipsis> Anzat in the Galaxy. [20:11] <@Ataru> Okay, probation then. [20:11] <@Ataru> MoS is very impawtant. [20:11] <@Eyrezer> hasn't it already been on probation? [20:12] <@Darth_Culator> It's /been/ on probation. [20:12] <@GreenTentacle> It's already on probation. [20:12] <@Ataru> Whoops. [20:12] <@Darth_Culator> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Anzat&diff=1812239&oldid=1719728 [20:12] <@Ataru> I meant kill. [20:12] <@Ataru> My mistake. [20:12] <@GreenTentacle> And was left on that last time. [20:12] <@Gonk|Smash> Suck out its brains. [20:12] <@GreenTentacle> It was from the batch before, not the last lot. [20:12] <@Darth_Culator> Hmm. [20:12] <@Ataru> That's why I missed it. [20:12] <@Ataru> Any other kill votes? [20:13] <@StarNeptune> I'll move to kill [20:13] <@JainaSolo> Kill [20:13] <@Graestan> Drink its soup, then kill. [20:13] <@Ataru> I have 5, I think. [20:13] <@Ataru> Unless "Hmm" is "kill." [20:14] <@Breathesgelatin> what spefcifically is wrong with it? [20:14] <@Darth_Culator> Hmm is "maybe." [20:14] <@Breathesgelatin> what aspect of MoS? [20:14] <@The4dotelipsis> Trains departing Purgatory, platform 1, will be, the 3:44 Anzat, running express to hell, departing in 2 minutes. [20:14] <@GreenTentacle> Can't remember. [20:14] <@Ataru> Breathesgelatin: We have a specific Manual of Style for Species articles. [20:14] <@Darth_Culator> "Kill" is kill. [20:14] <@Darth_Culator> KILL [20:14] <@Ataru> Ah. [20:14] <@Ataru> That's 6. [20:14] <@The4dotelipsis> That was a kill vote, btw. [20:14] <@Eyrezer> Breathes> It also lacks info from the Gamer article, a more important problem [20:14] <@Breathesgelatin> ah ha, ok kill [20:14] <@Graestan> The BtS for Anzati is bad enough for me. [20:14] <@Ataru> Okay, tis dead. [20:15] <@GreenTentacle> Then kill per Eyrezer. [20:15] <@Ataru> Anything else on the agenda? Is Eyrezer one of us again? [20:15] <@Ataru> :-P [20:15] <@Darth_Culator> "Sajé Tasha--a vampire with breasts." [20:15] <@Ataru> No. [20:15] <@Graestan> Eyrezer, come back home! [20:15] * @Graestan weeps openly [20:15] <@Gonk|Smash> ONE OF US [20:15] <@Gonk|Smash> ONE OF US [20:15] <@Eyrezer> I would be happy to actually [20:15] <@Eyrezer> no longer exam time for me [20:15] <@Breathesgelatin> brb--I have food that's going to go cold unless I go eat it. but I will be back FOR REALZ. I promise. [20:15] <@Ataru> "SajÃ© Tasha--a vampire with breasts." [20:15] <@GreenTentacle> I was just gonna say that. [20:15] <@Graestan> Insta-vote on EYREZER: [20:15] <@Graestan> Support. [20:15] <@GreenTentacle> Cool. [20:15] <@Ataru> Support for Eyrezer [20:16] <@Darth_Culator> Good, because I never took you off the access list and Nuku auto-ops you everywhere. :-P [20:16] <@Gonk|Smash> Per Grae [20:16] <@GreenTentacle> Let's vote on Eyrezer. [20:16] <@GreenTentacle> Support. [20:16] <@JainaSolo> Support [20:16] <@Ataru> Eyrezer's takin' me higher and higher! [20:16] <@Darth_Culator> Un-kill. [20:16] <@The4dotelipsis> Baby! [20:16] <@The4dotelipsis> It's a Livin' Thing! [20:16] <@Eyrezer> lol [20:16] <@Ataru> Is that a support, 4dot? [20:16] <@Gonk|Smash> the Eys have it [20:16] <@The4dotelipsis> Jane Eyrezer = Support. [20:16] <@Eyrezer> lol - nice 4Dot [20:16] <@Ataru> Star? Breathes? [20:17] <@StarNeptune> If people want to join, no matter who they are, I don't oppose [20:17] <@Ataru> StarNeptune: Even Tnu? [20:17] <@Ataru> *Shudder* [20:17] <@Darth_Culator> GAAAH! [20:17] <@StarNeptune> lolz [20:17] <@Breathesgelatin> sure to eyrezer [20:17] <@The4dotelipsis> What if they're Joe McCarthy? [20:17] <@Gonk|Smash> *Spit-take* [20:17] <@GreenTentacle> Heh. [20:17] <@Breathesgelatin> btw is Tnu back? [20:17] <@Ataru> Yes [20:17] <@Gonk|Smash> Yes [20:17] <@JainaSolo> Yeah [20:17] <@The4dotelipsis> Really? [20:17] <@Breathesgelatin> I figured [20:17] <@The4dotelipsis> Cool! :D [20:17] * @Ataru slaps forehead. [20:17] <@Darth_Culator> He wants final justice. [20:17] <@JainaSolo> Unfortunately [20:17] <@The4dotelipsis> Best comedic relief ever! [20:17] <@Gonk|Smash> "there will be final justice" [20:17] <@StarNeptune> "final justice"? [20:17] <@Ataru> Per the Goddess. [20:17] <@Breathesgelatin> nice [20:17] <@GreenTentacle> I'd say that's a yes. [20:17] <@The4dotelipsis> Please don't ban him this time. [20:17] <@GreenTentacle> To Eyrezer, not Tnu. :P [20:17] <@Breathesgelatin> Tnu loves me. [20:17] <@The4dotelipsis> He's hilarious. [20:17] <@JainaSolo> Please do [20:17] <@Graestan> Tnu thinks he's banned form the Wook currently because Culator banned him from IRC, though. [20:17] * @Gonk|Smash reminds himself to link Tnu to the Joe Don Baker movie "Final Justice" :/ [20:18] <@Ataru> Graestan: Score! [20:18] <@The4dotelipsis> Banned him from IRC? [20:18] <@Graestan> Quit saying Joe! :P [20:18] <@Ataru> Okay, anything else on agenda? [20:18] <@The4dotelipsis> Why!? :( [20:18] <@Breathesgelatin> OK, I'm off to eat--I will be back momentarily [20:18] <@Ataru> Okay Breathes. We're about done here anyway. [20:18] <@JainaSolo> He keeps pestering me [20:18] <@Ataru> Going once . . . . [20:18] <@The4dotelipsis> You people have no sense of humour. You'd put a flounder out of its misery rather than let it flounder in an amusing fashion. [20:18] <@Ataru> JainaSolo: On your talk page? [20:18] <@JainaSolo> Yes [20:19] <@The4dotelipsis> It's like perforating a kitten. [20:19] <@Ataru> If so, I can take care of that problem. [20:19] <@Gonk|Smash> I need a cup of joe [20:19] <@Ataru> Have you seen that movie Joe Dirt? [20:19] <@Ataru> It's pretty dumb. :-P [20:19] <@JainaSolo> lol [20:19] <@Graestan> Gonk: Do you, really? :DD [20:19] <@Gonk|Smash> errr [20:19] <@Gonk|Smash> uh [20:19] <@Gonk|Smash> nnnnno [20:19] <@Ataru> Going twice . . . [20:19] <@Darth_Culator> Joe Dirt could type and spell better than Tnu. [20:20] <@Gonk|Smash> What this channel needs is more Joementum [20:20] <@JainaSolo> Ataru: Thanks [20:20] <@Darth_Culator> Anyway, meeting closed? [20:20] <@Ataru> Okay, if there's nothing else on agenda, I declare this meeting over! [20:20] <@GreenTentacle> Hurray! [20:20] <@Darth_Culator> HOORJ [20:20] <@Ataru> Thank all of you for coming. I think we had record attendance.