User talk:Cade Calrayn

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Eras in the new plant template
Hey Cade. I saw that just created a new "plant" infobox, which is a fine thing! Still, I wondered wheter there should really be era tags going with that infobox. After all, species infobox doesn't have them. --LelalMekha (talk) 00:38, September 1, 2013 (UTC)

Merchandise?
I understand what your saying, but sticker books DO have a presence on this wiki. Their is even a category for them.Darth Pickle 2 (talk) 04:19, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

Would this count as merchandise as well?
I was thinking of making a page for this, but I wanted to check with you first. What do you think? http://www.amazon.com/National-Geographic-Angry-Birds-Star/dp/1426213034/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1372176063&sr=1-55 (talk) 21:21, September 2, 2013 (UTC) `Darth Pickle 2 (talk) 21:22, September 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is entirely merchandise. Any Angry Birds material should not receive an article beyond the articles for the two games themselves. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  21:53, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

Undone of your change of dawn of the Jedi
In reality, I don't give a shit, so do as you want. Do not forget to change the titles for each issue of kotor, Swtor, Legacy, Dark times, Republic, Rebellion, ... Maxattac (talk) 21:59, September 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm only doing this because the DOTJ issues are specifically not labelled as 6-10 and 11-15&mdash;each arc starts over. However, the Part # is valid; I'll re-add those. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  22:02, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

Pre-Republic tag
Heya, Cade. The Pre-Republic tag is not from a publishing era, but it is used to have a visual distinction between things that are timeless (no tag) and those that happen before the publishing eras start. It serves a purpose, and we need to have it. We also are in great need of a new icon, and I've pointed this out before. Please put them back. NaruHina Talk  18:50, September 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * You're welcome to try a new SH to get a new eras tag, but until then, it's incorrect to use the Pre-Republic era as a tag when it's not a publishing era. A Before the Je'daii era could work, but I don't have the time at the moment to write up a SH or anything. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  19:01, September 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Cade, the Pre-Republic era tag has been used on here for nearly six years for the exact reasons that Naru said. That's a lot of precedent to overcome. If you feel that it should not be used or that a different icon should be used, please start a discussion and get consensus first. Wide, sweeping changes like what you suggest (that it should not be used at all) are not something that you should be bold with. The tags need to stay where they are until the community decides otherwise, and I will be reverting your edits for that reason. &mdash;MJ&mdash; Comlink 23:47, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry about that, I just knew I'd have to make an edit to put the page in the past tense, and I didn't want to do that.74.72.159.170 02:30, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Murttoc
Hello, I'd appreciate it if you were not so quick to revert my edits. This topic has been the subject of an ongoing discussion between myself, User:Hanzo Hasashi and User:Sompeetalay for a few days now. I've included a link to our discussion here. Thankyou for your cooperation. Bo Shuda (talk) 03:10, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

Seriously?
They need to be categorized. If someone wants more info on BTS material they can click on the imagecat box and find more behind the scenes imagery of particular characters; puppets or not. Find me a policy that prevents this and I'll gladly comply but your logic is ludicrous. Bo Shuda (talk) 04:07, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

TC closure
Hey, I've closed Trash compactor/Character sheets as a merge to the adventure. I will leave it to you as the nominator to carry out the actual merge. &mdash;MJ&mdash; Holocomm 18:55, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

And this as well?
Would Young DK Reader books be considered merchandise. Can I keep making pages for those products?Darth Pickle 2 (talk) 20:42, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

Inq Meeting 59
Hey Cade. Meeting 59 of the High Council of Inqusitors is scheduled for next week Saturday, September 21. Please make sure to leave notes if you cannot attend. Otherwise, see you there!  CC7567  (talk) 01:39, September 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Due to a conflict with the next EduCorps meeting, Inqmoot Meeting 59 has been rescheduled for the following Saturday, the 28th. Please double-check and confirm on the meeting page if you are still able to make it.  CC7567  (talk) 20:13, September 9, 2013 (UTC)

Unidentified
It is very hard to leave a reference for unidentified Jedi and unidentified clones but if you will help a fellow Jedi we can find the records.

You try and keep track of all the Jedi and the clones in Attack of the Clones there was 1 million clones and over a hundred Jedi!

People do all the time If I were to talk about Jaina Solo before she was introduced she would have been Fanon. Some of these people are on because of a book so if I decide to write a book on a whole bunch of unidentified Jedi and Clones you would not have anything to say!

Yeah good luck with that I have already started a script that has a chance to be the tenth Star Wars Movie and besides I say that half these people should not exist because someone wrote a book until the stick those two people in the extended universe, and yes Star Wars has an extended universe

You like the old republic. Nice... Anything specific you like?

EduCorps Meeting 2
You are invited to participate in EduCorps meeting 2, which is scheduled for 7 PM ET on Saturday, September 21st.-- Exiled Jedi   (Greetings)  14:13, September 12, 2013 (UTC)

RE: 4,300 BBY
On the Timeline of Galactic history, that same information is cited, I only moved the information to a new article to clear the redlink. Also, on Taris the information is cited, not from the first KOTOR, but from Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords. Plus, the information on 4,300 BBY says that Taris "became known as" which would indicate that people would say this about Taris, which is what you found in the dialogues of KOTOR. I guess I could reword it so that it's more clear if you would like that! I feel that this all makes that valid. But then again, I could be wrong. What do you think? -- Scorch1162 ''' (Priming Explosives) 02:44, September 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * Nah, none of it's valid. I actually traced the source of the info back to an anon several years ago, and it's proliferated via people reading info and copying it. The reference was false in the timeline page, and I've removed all of the other mentions of it and a few other years that I've confirmed to be fanon. 02:47, September 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * Alright, then I apologize. I'm sorry for the mistakes. I'll delete the sandbox information to effectively kill 4,300 BBY.

Sorry again, -- Scorch1162 ''' (Priming Explosives) 02:51, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

Spacetroopers
Hey Cal. From what I can see here, the troopers with backpack from ANH were indeed spacetroopers. The writing on the package is very clear about that. --LelalMekha (talk) 21:54, September 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * Interesting. I added the appearance back, though there's too many images in that article for there to be another. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  21:57, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

Battle of Balmorra discussion
Hi

I knew you'd show up sooner or later. For some time I'm calling you "The Butcher of Dawidos". Sorry for my dark sense of humour. Memorize what you said about the list of supporters in the article about Revan's Sith Empire. To this day it stands as a testimony of my work. You claimed it'd be removed by the others. It wasn't. It seems only you have problems with my work :)

Seriously speaking, I don't say a final word in the Battle of Balmorra article. I really want to expand the content of it, enhancing its quality as the best as it's possible. Listing these individuals will help me find all missions and events which can be included in the main body of this article. In addition, not everyone has time to read all the text. Sometimes you need to find precise information ASAP. The second reason is quite private. I was looking for the names of Balmorra collaborators and couldn't find on the Wookieepedia. So I've decided to do it by myself. I can put myself into somebody else shoes. I'm sorry to say that but I think you can't :( But I really respect your work, especially Hero of Tython article.

Don't worry my friend :). I won't leave this article in this current condition. I will try to make it suitable for your kind (people liking lots of text) and mine (people liking short information). Greetings, Dawidos2 (talk) 15:04, September 17, 2013 (UTC)Dawidos


 * I don't believe I've ever said anything about the Sith Empire list being removed by others, though after a discussion with other users, the Sith Empire list has been removed as it is entirely redundant and inferior to Category:Sith of Revan's Sith Empire and Category:Military personnel of Revan's Sith Empire. Lists are greatly inferior to categories, and if you're determined to have all of the Balmorran collaborators listed somewhere&mdash;and it certainly doesn't belong in the Battle of Balmorra article&mdash;then I'd suggest a Category:Balmorran collaborators, which can be added to the articles of all of the collaborators and included in Category:Sith Empire individuals. Your list also contains present tense, which is a major issue. Battle articles are not intended to be lists of combatants, they are intended as chronological summaries of the actual events. The individuals who participated are secondary. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  18:26, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Well, what should we do with the ranks?
Look, we need to place the ranks somewhere, especially Cass's ranks and those from the DSTC since those weren't covered in the Essential Guide to Warfare at all. If you have any ideas as to where to place them, feel free to put them there. I really wish Wookieepedia didn't just remove the galleries, because that would have been the best place to put them. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:07, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * There is absolutely no reason to create articles for random Imperial officers just to save the images from deletion. The images and content were removed from the Imperial rank article because it was largely original research and speculation. As for the ranks that look different, it's called artistic error and artistic license. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  21:13, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Fine, but we still need to do something about the Imperial officers even if it is expanding them. We've already got plenty of unidentified character articles on here, so I honestly don't see why they don't make the cut. They're characters, so they get articles. It's a wiki, after all. As far as the Ranks, can we at LEAST try to put them in the not not delete section, especially Cade's rank since that was not covered at all? Actually, I think we should create a series of tables listing variants covered in the behind the scenes section of the Rank Insignia articles, especially for reference purposes. Its not original research or speculation if its explicitly stated to have come from something like the Death Star Technical Companion, which at least the DSTC ranks were stated to have originated from that. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:20, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't understand what you're talking about, but if you have information from an actual source, then feel free to add to an article using text and references. Images aren't always necessary; they're a luxury that that requires significant text before they can be used. Cade  StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit.svg  Calrayn  21:23, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * According to some of the images (specifically, Dstmgmf.jpg, Dstmgnc.jpg, Dstmaj.jpg, and Dstmcom.jpg, and Dstmcap.jpg, among others), they came from the Death Star Technical Companion, which is an actual text-based source. As far as what I was babbling about earlier, I was referring to the Unidentified Imperial officers, since the way you were talking indicated that you planned to delete the articles. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:40, September 19, 2013 (UTC)