User talk:Master Jonathan

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Something you may find useful
Since you're about to embark on a project that will touch thousands of pages, you might want to look at how I unshackled KillerRoboLeia3000. In addition to setting the minimum throttle settings in the user-config, I shortened the delay timers in the core and some of the support files, and there were a bunch of them.


 * user-config.py: http://pastebin.com/vRc5P39H
 * pagegenerators.py: http://diffchecker.com/0vk4fAy3
 * query.py: http://diffchecker.com/7bQH3m3O
 * userlib.py: http://diffchecker.com/5311TZa9
 * wikipedia.py: http://diffchecker.com/8Lp7196m

Since I code mostly by voodoo, I basically just grepped for "idle" or "sleep" and reduced any such entries, and it worked out quite nicely. Total number of fucks given about the strain I put on Wikia: 0 -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 08:05, January 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks, but AJTD6 runs solely on AutoWikiBrowser, where "sleep" is a single setting on the "bot" tab. I usually run tasks involving a large number of pages, like the mass substitution of user talk templates a few days ago that touched over 2,000 pages, with a one-second sleep between edits, which gives me about 15 to 20 edits per minute. That's plenty fast enough for me. &mdash;MJ&mdash; Comlink 17:53, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * Bah. Well if I knew a damn thing about regexes, I'd get my bot to run alongside yours. I love beating the crap out of the servers. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 02:19, January 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * Here's the regex:  →   (or   depending on which one Python uses to return captures from parentheses). AJTD6 is currently doing all mainspace articles in ascending alphabetical order and just reached Coruscant; if you want to, KillerRoboLeia3000 can work backwards from the Zs and they can meet in the middle. RoboLeia could also handle the few hundred non-mainspace pages that use it, some of which (like user workbenches for massive articles) may be too large for AWB, which gets stuck if you try to feed it a page larger than about 200 KB. I took care of the 40 or so largest mainspace articles manually this afternoon before starting the bot to prevent that problem on this run. &mdash;MJ&mdash; War Room 02:57, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Holopedia
Hi there.

I'm the bureaucrat of Holopedia (http://bg.starwars.wikia.com), the Bulgarian Star Wars Wiki. Today I created a page about Holopedia here on Wookieepedia, following a redlink on the page List of Star Wars Wikis in other languages.

Later you added the Notability template to it. I read the Notability policy, which I didn't know anything about before. Unfortunately I don't see a way to proof the notability of Holopedia. It is the only Star Wars encyclopedia in Bulgarian, it is associated with the only Star Wars fan club in Bulgaria and it is a sister project of Wookieepedia, but that's about it.

I saw many of the sister Wikis have information pages about them on Wookieepedia so I just thought I should add some information about Holopedia as there was a redlink. I even saw that smaller sister Wikis than ours have pages on Wookieepedia - like the Romanian Lukepedia and the Croatian Wookieepedija.

So if you have any idea about how can I keep this page on Wookieepedia, please let me know. Otherwise, please delete it along with the images in it.

Thanks, adenry 19:32, January 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for drawing my attention to the other sister projects that appear to be non-notable. I have just tagged eleven of them with Notability. As for Holopedia, since there's no way to show notability, I have deleted the article and all four images per your request. I apologize for having to do that, but I do have to uphold our policy on the matter. I do hope that one day Holopedia will become sufficiently notable for its own article. &mdash;MJ&mdash; Training Room 19:54, January 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry you had to do that, too. Sister projects should be an exception to that rule and be allowed to have a page on Wookieepedia in my opinion. We are not fansites. This would give us some recognition and urge us to keep up our work. Deleting our pages doesn't exactly excite us about our next edit. But it's not my place to decide such things, so anyway... You should also remove the redlinks from List of Star Wars Wikis in other languages, so that other misguided sysops don't waste their time creating articles that would be deleted.


 * By the way, Holopedia was article #100 000 on Wookieepedia.


 * Thanks for your help and quick response. MTFBWY! adenry 20:18, January 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'll take care of the redlinks on the list later, as I'm in the middle of a large task now. I just checked again, though, and in fact Jela Reneke was number 100,000, as confirmed by on the article talk page; Holopedia was number 99,999. You were close, though. :) &mdash;MJ&mdash; Comlink 20:25, January 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, it said 99 999 on a Wookieepedia page in another tab before I published Holopedia and 100 000 after I did. It was definitely #100 000. Then the number 100 000 stayed for a while (I refreshed a few times), so there wasn't a new page for at least a few minutes. Now that you deleted it, the page created after Holopedia, page #100 001 becomes #100 000, naturally. Well, I was happy for an hour or two! Sorry that you had to delete #100 000. adenry 21:07, January 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, we didn't notice that 100,000 had been reached until a couple of hours later, by which time it's possible that another article had been deleted, which would have thrown off the count as well. It's one of those cases where we can never be exactly sure. 21:11, January 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * It's easy to check that. Use the New Pages Special Page and the Deletion log Special page. Currently (as I'm writing) the number of articles is 100 021. The number of articles created after Jela Reneke is also 21, which currently makes Jela Reneke #100 000. Holopedia was created right before Jela Reneke, so it was #100 000 while it existed. There weren't any deletions after creating Holopedia and before deleting it (except one redirection, but redirections are not included in the total number of articles), so deleted articles don't change anything. So there you go. adenry 21:47, January 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * Interesting. Of course, you have to consider the fact that Holopedia, at the same time, is also not even remotely the 100,000th article to be created for two reasons: first, hundreds if not thousands of pages that have been previously created aren't included in the count because they have been deleted (and I'm not even talking about vandalism and fanon here), meaning that if we count off the 50,000th article today, it won't be the same as when we first reached 50,000, and second, the count includes disambiguation pages, which technically aren't articles. So the title of "100,000th article" is really arbitrary to begin with. &mdash;MJ&mdash;</b> Comlink</b> 22:03, January 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, you can always make the math using the logs and the current number of articles. Yes, you're right, of course, who knows what actual number the articles are. Perhaps the correct wording should be "the first time Wookieepedia reached a current total of 100 000 articles" or something like that. I don't care about titles or whatever, I was just clearing things up in case the staff of Wookieepedia wanted to know the truth. The important thing is that Wookieepedia rules! adenry 22:25, January 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I think we'll leave Jela Reneke as the "official" 100,000th article, since it wouldn't look good to say "we had to delete number 100,000". I appreciate you being friendly and polite about the whole matter, though. :) &mdash;MJ&mdash;</b> Training Room</b> 22:29, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

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Thank you so much! The Force is strong in wookieepedia.--99.56.52.40 22:12, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

I just had a look at the Manual of Style.--99.56.52.40 03:18, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you
We've spoken a few times already, but a huge thank you again for all your support on the nomination and your friendship over the years. Thanks. :) Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 05:45, January 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. :D &mdash;MJ&mdash;</b> Training Room</b> 05:46, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Ref survivors
I put a list up here of the last transcludes. My bot is just skipping them with the current regex, and looking at Padm%C3%A9 Amidala it seems that it may be because they have linebreaks in the ref. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 14:51, January 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I ran into three common exceptions that the regex didn't catch: line breaks in the ref and either a space or a pipe between the end of the reference and the closing }} . I'll take care of them in a little bit. A little tweaking to the regex should catch them. &mdash;MJ&mdash;</b> Holocomm</b> 16:35, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Gabriel Guzman
Hi MJ,

Quick question on this page, Gabriel Guzman. Is his deviantart page an approved source? Or should it be something official, like from the Darkhorse page? Thanks. --ToRsO bOy (talk) 18:53, January 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * It's valid as an external link, but not as a source for the claim that he's doing that story arc, for which we need something official like the Dark Horse website. &mdash;MJ&mdash;</b> War Room</b> 18:58, January 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * Done. Can you check if I did it right? ToRsO bOy (talk) 19:20, January 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * Tweaked. In general, try to avoid using search results as sources, since they are highly volatile and can change at any time. In this case, I used the specific pages for the two listed issues of Fire Carrier as the sources and moved the search results page down to external links, since it's useful as a list of everything he's done. The Verify tag has also been removed. &mdash;MJ&mdash;</b> Comlink</b> 20:21, January 11, 2013 (UTC)