Forum:SH:General bug thread

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We've been listing bugs in the MediaWiki 1.19 thread, but at this point any news bugs are unlikely to be connected to the upgrade, so this thread has been created for general discussion of any bugs that may show up from time to time. Remember that if the bug requires Wikia to fix it, it should probably be reported to Special:Contact/bug, but brief discussion here first may be useful in nailing down whether it only occurs in certain browsers, etc., thereby enabling us to give Wikia more specific information so they can fix it more easily. When reporting a bug, be sure to list your browser version, operating system, and skin, as these may provide useful clues to the problem.

One a bug has been verified as fixed, it should be archived to Forum:SH:General bug thread/Archive to avoid cluttering the page with stuff that no longer needs attention. If you feel that a bug was prematurely archived and that it has not been fully resolved, feel free to move it back to this page to continue discussion.

Inconsistent block and talk links
When I looked at my watchlist a few minutes ago, the block and talk links were behaving oddly. Block links appeared on some lines, but not others, and in once case showed both behaviors for on consecutive lines. Also, a talk link for JCRules showed up red as if the page didn't exist, when you can see a few lines down that it does exist; other talk links for JCRules correctly show up purple as a visited, existing page. Vista, Firefox 16.0.2, Monobook. Anybody else seeing this? &mdash;MJ&mdash; Holocomm 23:42, October 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * For that matter, what of regular users who have reported the weird phantom sysop powers? I had seen this before the upgrade and before I became an admin.  It was intermittent then, but according to at least one user, this seems to be a constant thing.  Could this be looked into?  Trak Nar  Ramble on 06:18, November 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oddly, the phantom block links are something I never saw before becoming an admin. Vista, Monobook, latest stable version of Firefox at all times. &mdash;MJ&mdash; Training Room 19:41, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

Namespace drop-down box in RC page
On the Recent Changes page, the Namespace drop down box near the top does not work, it does not open, it does nothing in the latest version of Firefox. I just checked and it does work in IE version 9.0.10. -  JMAS  Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 04:04, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * The namespace dropdown is an incredible piece of crap and needs to die. It deliberately breaks core MediaWiki functionality. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 04:22, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's fine. If we can kill it, go for it - particularly if it screws stuff up. Though if it is going to stay, it would be nice if it worked. *shrug* -  JMAS  Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 04:29, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * JMAS, is it broken if you uncheck the Ajax RC checkbox and refresh the page? Works for me in Firefox. If it is just the Ajax RC issue, I can fix it I believe. Culator: what core functionality does it break? It really does something that core should be doing, i.e. letting you filter on more than one namespace at once, which has always been a pain of core's RC filter. Cheers, grunny &#64; wookieepedia :&#126;$ 04:33, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * "is it broken if you uncheck the Ajax RC checkbox and refresh the page?" No, it appears to be the AJAX that's breaking it. Firefox 16.0.2 (latest version). &mdash;MJ&mdash; Comlink 05:06, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, should be fixed. Refresh your browser's cache and it should be all good. Cheers, grunny &#64; wookieepedia :&#126;$ 05:31, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Grunny: Ever since it was implemented, RC links with namespace selections in them no longer function. You can only select namespaces with this stupid dropdown and its javascript, or cookie, or whatever in the hell it uses. At least that's how it was last I checked. All such links have since dropped off my history because I gave up on them. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 13:48, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, I have feeling that's a reported bug, I'll double check and get back to you on the status of that. Cheers, grunny &#64; wookieepedia :&#126;$ 13:54, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Odd error deleting file
When I deleted File:TerrenceCarson.jpg, after entering the reason and clicking the delete button, I got the following message:

The deletion was successful, so I don't know what this error means. Any idea? &mdash;MJ&mdash; Council Chambers 01:37, November 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've gotten the same message. I've asked Culator and he says that the archive just made a mistake and couldn't archive the deleted image for whatever reason.  Basically, the image wasn't archived as it should be.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 02:01, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Editor problems on Darth Vader's Armor.
Hi.

I'm trying to add edits to the Darth Vader's armor article that pertained to information from Darth Vader A 3-D Reconstruction Log. However, I'm noticing that several parts of the page seem to have a lot of reference tags inexplicably cut when in edit mode. My browser is Internet Explorer, and I'm using Windows version 7. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 20:54, November 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * What version of Internet Explorer? Can you give us a screenshot showing the problem? What skin are you using? &mdash;MJ&mdash;</b> Jedi Council Chambers</b> 20:58, November 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll do it from my laptop. I'd do it on my main computer, but I can't add anything on until I make absolute certain that my files can be recovered. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:05, November 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Just uploaded it:
 * Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:15, November 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Edit: Turns out there's a similar problem in the Woodoo article's editor. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:53, November 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's... really bizarre. Seems like a Wikia bug to me. I would suggest reporting it to Wikia via the form at Special:Contact/bug. &mdash;MJ&mdash;</b> Holocomm</b> 22:16, November 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * I did as soon as you suggested it. I haven't gotten a response yet, nor have I seen any indication that the glitch has been fixed yet. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 22:09, December 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * It typically takes them two to three business days to respond. You reported it on Friday, so give them until Tuesday or Wednesday to respond. &mdash;MJ&mdash;</b> Jedi Council Chambers</b> 22:13, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

Weird rollback problem
I've encountered this on here and on another wiki. When I go to rollback an edit, the rollback is successful, but I'm given the message that it failed because it was already rolled back by me. I just encountered this on another wiki, so I'll copy/paste what it said there.

So... I rolled back the page, but the rollback failed because I had already rolled back the page before I rolled back the page. Rollbackception? The rollback works, but seeing this message is really irritating, especially since it is wiki-wide, as exemplified above.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 02:09, December 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * I got this the other day as well, but forgot to report it. Took me several minutes to figure out what happened. &mdash;MJ&mdash;</b> Training Room</b> 02:20, December 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Just an update: The problem is still present. I mostly ignore it now, as I know the rollback works, but last I checked, as of yesterday, it's still there.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 07:17, December 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, this has been happening a while for me, pretty much intermittently. 1358  <sup style="color:#336600;">(Talk)  10:43, December 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Just an update on this. This is ticketed as and has an Engineer investigating, so a fix hopefully won't be far away. Cheers, grunny &#64; wookieepedia :&#126;$ 13:03, December 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * ...and the fix has been committed and will go live next week. Cheers, grunny &#64; wookieepedia :&#126;$ 05:59, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

Bizarre edit chronology, and not showing in recent changes
See. Note that the edit on the LEFT says "Latest revision". If you click "Newer edit", you get this, which is the exact same two edits, right down to the revision IDs, in reverse order. Additionally, viewing the page directly shows my revision, not Cal's. Finally, my edit is not showing up in recent changes or my watchlist, which indicates that it was not added to the recent changes table&mdash;and if edits are not showing up in recent changes or watchlists, that means vandalism could slip through the cracks. I'm on Vista, Firefox 17.0.1, and Monobook. &mdash;MJ&mdash;</b> Council Chambers</b> 22:45, December 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm getting the same thing. Also, your edit shows up in the history of the CAN page. However, if you select my edit compared to Dogma's from the history list, you get this, which doesn't even show that your edit is recorded. I'm also using Firefox with Monobook, but I'm using Windows 7.&mdash; Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 01:21, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

Special:Uncategorizedpages bug
This has been like this for a while now, and for the most part, I've ignored it, but really... I'd rather know what's going on and what can be done to fix this. For whatever reason, the Special:Uncategorizedpages has Battle of the Nazzri system (Mandalorian Wars) listed, even though, last I checked, it is categorized. Hell, I'll check it right now. I opened it up in the edit tab and right there at the bottom is its category. So, what's going on? Why is it listed?  Trak Nar  Ramble on 09:21, December 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's... bizarre. It also looks like a Wikia or MediaWiki bug; either way, it should be reported to Special:Contact/bug. &mdash;MJ&mdash;</b> War Room</b> 20:05, December 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, I tried something. I removed all three categories from the article, saved, and then reverted. We'll find out tonight when the report updates if the hard removal and re-addition of the categories fixes it. Otherwise, go forward with reporting it to Wikia. &mdash;MJ&mdash;</b> Comlink</b> 20:09, December 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * That did the trick! I'll remember that for next time I find an odd bug like that.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 06:47, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

Help pages duplicate headers
I had this really weird bug when opening any page in the Help namespace &mdash; every heading seems to have duplicate text. I'm using Monobook in Firefox 17 on Kubuntu 12.10; however, I can confirm it also happened logged out (=using Oasis) in Chrome. Bypassing the cache (ctrl+shift+r) didn't seem to help. See this pic. 1358 <sup style="color:#336600;">(Talk)  14:46, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * I believe this bug has already been fixed and will go live with the next release. Let me know if it reappears after Wednesday (SF time). Cheers, grunny &#64; wookieepedia :&#126;$ 14:55, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

Image upload failed to create the description page
See File:Soul-snare.png. The image was uploaded by at 16:58 EST today, but as evidenced by the [ page history], the description page did not exist until I created it at 18:10 EST. This is despite the fact that the [ upload log] shows that the proper information is in the upload summary (and never mind that even an upload without any information provided should create an empty description page). What's going on here? &mdash;MJ&mdash;</b> War Room</b> 23:30, January 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * It did it again. <b style="color:navy; text-decoration:underline; font-family:serif;">&mdash;MJ&mdash;</b> <b style="color:red; font-variant:small-caps;">Jedi Council Chambers</b> 01:28, January 30, 2013 (UTC)

Number of pages in a category
Category:Pages using the url parameter of the JCFcite template says on the first page that "The following 200 pages are in this category, out of 705 total." However, when you go through the category, there are actually only 458 pages listed. says 705 as well (live count: ). What's going on? <b style="color:navy; text-decoration:underline; font-family:serif;">&mdash;MJ&mdash;</b> <b style="color:red; font-variant:small-caps;">War Room</b> 03:16, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Mesed up top bar
This isn't really a bug, but I figured it would best go here. At the moment, several words on the top bar are coming on without caps or have two words joined together, The ones this is happening too are navigation, current events, featured articles, help and all pages under the interaction section except upload images. I don't know if this is happening to anyone else, so I wanted to ask here. This is happening on the normal wikia skin.  Commander Code-8  G'day, mate 09:53, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Can you take a screenshot and upload it somewhere (for example imgur.com)? Also, what browser and operating system are you using? 1358  <sup style="color:#336600;">(Talk)  10:45, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Cheers, grunny &#64; wookieepedia :&#126;$ 18:05, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Great, looks much better now.  Commander Code-8  G'day, mate 02:12, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

Oasis editor overlapping
Not that I normally use Oasis, but while investigating these Special:Upload workarounds I came across this weird bug in the Oasis editor. Firefox 18.0.1. 1358 <sup style="color:#336600;">(Talk)  19:46, January 30, 2013 (UTC)

SH page creation
I can't seem to be able to create any SH threads starting with Special:foo (replace foo with whatever). All I get is "You have requested a special page that is not recognized by Wookieepedia. A list of valid special pages can be found at Special pages." 1358  <sup style="color:#336600;">(Talk)  19:53, January 30, 2013 (UTC)

Recent Changes is broken... again
This looks to be Wikia-wide, and no doubt others have noticed and probably reported it. The Recent Changes is not collapsing multiple edits, and the AJAX is broken. I'm using the Monobook skin in Chrome.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 02:15, March 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * I also cannot see AJAX.  Stake black   msg 02:18, March 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Either someone did something, or the issue resolved itself, as things seem to be in working order now.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 02:42, March 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * I had this problem at work today, but I assumed it was due to recent changes by my corporate network to restrict Java. <- Omicron (Leave a message at the BEEP! ) 02:46, March 1, 2013 (UTC)

Page history bug
See. Every revision except the last two shows up as empty, yet when you click on them, there's stuff there. Monobook/Firefox 19.0.1/Windows 8. <b style="color:navy; text-decoration:underline; font-family:serif;">&mdash;MJ&mdash;</b> <b style="color:red; font-variant:small-caps;">War Room</b> 06:36, March 1, 2013 (UTC)

DPL
DPL (dynamic pagelist) is broken, meaning no tags work. It was posted in the Wikia Skype channel so I guess staff are aware. 1358 <sup style="color:#336600;">(Talk)  15:19, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

Broken move
A few minutes ago, I tried to move Charsae Saal to Chara. On my first attempt to do so, Wikia gave me a notice that the server was experiencing technical difficulties. When I looked closer, I discovered that it had moved the article and noted this in the page history, but without doing any of the other stuff that accompanies moving the article, namely 1) moving the talk page also, 2) placing the new title on my watchlist (since the old title was already on my watchlist), 3) creating a redirect at the old title, or 4) creating an entry in the move log. That last one is the most important because it's the one that cannot be fixed. As such, this seems like a serious bug that needs to be fixed. Monobook, Firefox, Windows 8. <b style="color:navy; text-decoration:underline; font-family:serif;">&mdash;MJ&mdash;</b> <b style="color:red; font-variant:small-caps;">Training Room</b> 20:50, April 23, 2013 (UTC)

Being logged out randomly
Is anyone else being logged out randomly? I'll be editing, or uploading a picture and suddenly I'll be logged out. It's been going on few a few days now. I don't think it's my browser, but I'm using Firefox 21.0. Is anyone else experiencing this? -  JMAS  Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 02:36, May 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * I had that happen a couple days ago. I'm using Chrome, so I don't think it's my browser.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 05:40, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

Forced preview during editing
Not that this is a problem or anything, as often I'm quite grateful for when it happens, but when I hit "Submit," the page will go straight to a preview. At least once, this has happened several times in a row. Hit "submit," get a preview. Hit "submit," get a preview. Hit "submit" a third time, get a preview. During that preview, I will closely review my edit, as I've had mysterious bugs that would randomly devour a chunk of text for no discernible reason (MJ's dealt with this issue, too), so it's not necessarily a bad bug. However, when you have to hit "submit" three times in order to submit your changes, it's irritating. I've checked my preferences, and I have nothing set to show a preview on the first edit. This happens randomly.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 05:40, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * This has been happening to me quite often also. -  JMAS  Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 17:37, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

Image upload issue
While it is slightly different, seems like a related problem to the previous Forced preview topic. I've attempted to upload an image 5 times now. And it just keeps bringing me back to the upload screen with the Information template blanked out, but the image file name still in the Destination Filename spot. It finally successfully uploaded in the 6th try. -  JMAS  Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 23:06, June 1, 2013 (UTC)