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Removal of GA status

 * Reduxed at Meeting 62. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:42, December 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * Kept on December 5, 2013. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:42, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Redux review

 * ''The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a reduxed good article. The result of the discussion was Good article status kept. Please do not modify the page.

Tefaun

 * Redux comments: Reduxed per Meeting 62.
 * Date added: October 28, 2013

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Support
 * 1) Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 06:11, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * 2) Winterz (talk) 01:52, December 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * 3)  CC7567  (talk) 03:11, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) The Clone
 * 2) * In regards to the CSWE entry being an Imo, I'm not entirely convinced that it should qualify as such. I'm looking at Petikkin's entry right now, and it doesn't mention any of his specific individual attributes that refer&mdash;directly or indirectly&mdash;to his species, beyond the fact that he's from Tefau (which doesn't seem to count). I know it can usually be a gray line of whether something qualifies as an indirect mention or not, but in my book, if something isn't mentioned indirectly at all, then it isn't mentioned indirectly at all (which appears to be the case for this CSWE entry), so it shouldn't qualify as Imo. What do you think?  CC7567  (talk) 02:26, December 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * 3) **Should it be just a full mention? Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 02:45, December 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * 4) ***I would recommend removing it altogether from the Sources list, because it doesn't reference any direct or indirect information about the species itself.  CC7567  (talk) 02:47, December 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * 5) ****Well it mentions Soth Petikkin, who is a Tefaun. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 02:48, December 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * 6) *****I realize that, but that doesn't count as an indirect mention in my opinion; it only mentions the individual and not the species to which he belongs. An indirect mention would have been if the CSWE entry had mentioned something more indicative of his species or his species' traits, e.g. his "people" or his "rugged head"&mdash;anything at all about his physical attributes. Since the entry didn't mention anything like that, I don't think it counts as an indirect mention.  CC7567  (talk) 02:54, December 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * 7) ******So would a mention only of Jabba Desilijic Tiure without mentioning he's a Hutt (ie either just calling him Jabba or by his full name) not count as a mention of the species? Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 02:58, December 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * 8) *******Theoretically, yes. Otherwise, there would be too many usages of Imo to count. I realize that this is a rather gray area, and that it's also a case-by-case issue, so if you'd like to get input from others about this, you're welcome to, and I'll take them into account. I just think it shouldn't qualify as an indirect mention in this case.  CC7567  (talk) 03:03, December 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * 9) ********I have talked to Tope on IRC, and he thinks it's best to not include it. As such I've removed CSWE from sources. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 03:09, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Comments
 * Well seeing how the clothes are mentioned, how about the necklace-thingy too? Winterz (talk) 01:41, December 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Added. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 23:35, December 4, 2013 (UTC)