Talk:Mara Jade Skywalker

Move to "Mara Jade Skywalker"? --SparqMan 14:17, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I think it should be moved back to just Mara Jade, since it applies to all parts of her life, whereas "Mara Jade Skywalker" only applies to her life after marrying Luke. --Andrettin
 * The policy here is that the title for a character page goes by whatever they were called latest in their life; for example, Lumpawarrump changed his name to Lumpawaroo, Leia married Han Solo and thus became Leia Organa Solo, and if Darth Maul's real name really is Khameir Sarin (which the jury is still out on) that applies as well, and so on. MarcK 17:28, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, Grevious goes under his earlier name--The Erl

The Picture shows Mara Jade (with Sith/Dark Jedi cloak and robe) aboard the Death Star II. -- Eddyward Telerionus 21:44, 30 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * That could be any number of Imperial vessels or facilities. IIRC, Mara was nowhere near the second Death Star. --SparqMan 07:43, 31 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Date of Birth
Are we sure she was born in 17 BBY? I had also seen it as 21 BBY. -- SFH 03:11, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * It floats around in the EU, but according to Leland Chee, 17 BBY is now being treated as Mara's "official" birthdate. QuentinGeorge 06:42, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * The latest official date is now 18 BBY, per Leland Chee's blog from a few weeks ago. Kuralyov 22:23, 10 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * It seems like she would have been born before 18 BBY. If "Extinction" is cannon, then she is 17 in that story. She seemed a little older.
 * Perhaps. But "officially", she's eighteen as of 0 BBY QuentinGeorge 11:04, 8 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Parentage
Who says that she's the child of any known characters? Plus, Allegiance, the Zahn novel of '07 may help clear this up--Erl I think the Quin/Khaleen theory can be erased. In the latest Republic #83, Quin says he can sense his unborn child through the force and specifically refers to it as "him."
 * Nothing, really -- but putting fan speculation in a clearly marked "Behind the Scenes" section helps stop people from thinking it's canon. (See also Palpatine's first name, Jar Jar Binks's alleged death, etc.)  &mdash; Silly Dan  17:05, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * Removed it, the new issue confirms this. Lonnyd 01:08, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll just add to it. Lonnyd 05:56, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Homeworld
Should we put Raised on Coruscant as her homeworld? -- SFH 00:08, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC) Okay, if that's what you think. Also, I wasn't going to actually put it in without some other voices. I just thought that it would be a good way to get some consensus on the issue. I hate it when nobody answers after two weeks. -- SFH 23:11, 10 Oct 2005 (UTC) Is ((Chandrila]] Maras real homeworld? if it isnt then why it does state so? Dark Lord
 * Okay, I have a policy on discussions. If I do not recieve a response on a controversial question in a certain amount of time, I assume no one objects, or no one is watching. So, if I do not recieve an answer for Raised on Coruscant in 3 days, I'm going to put it up. -- SFH 21:41, 10 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * I object. It's not known that she was raised on Coruscant; her first appearance is just before ANH, and we have no idea where she was rained/raised for the previous 18 years. In fact, the best argument for a possible 'home' would be "Recruitment," and even there it shows Palpatine's dark side converts being trained on Byss, not Coruscant. Kuralyov 22:23, 10 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't think we know if she grew up on Coruscant or not. Do we? --Master Starkeiller 18:57, 11 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Nope. We do know that Lumiya was though, and that's probably were the confusion comes from. QuentinGeorge 03:30, 16 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, I was aware that Lumiya was a Coruscanti. I just believed that Coruscant was the most likely place for Mara to have been trianed. I didn't know that Palpatine had located Byss that far back. So maybe we should put raised on Byss. -- SFH 03:39, 16 Oct 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure that in the Thrawn trilogy, she describes being taken by Palpatine to Coruscant when she's first found, and raised in the Imperial Palace. --McEwok 00:41, 27 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * I read there wasn't any source, so until there is. I should also point out that at wikipedia someone managed to slip "Chandrila" as her homeworld. --Sauron18 01:07, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Shannon as Mara
Just curious, what is Shannon Baksa/McRandle's status in SW? Is she still the "official" Mara Jade? Since the cards are now produced by a different company my guess is that she's not. Also the cover for Survivor's Quest had a different model on it. Jed-eye 00:07, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * Wizards also used her. jSarek 02:39, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * The SQ cover seems to be a photomanip of a picture of Angie Everhart. --McEwok 00:41, 27 Nov 2005 (UTC)
 * I always kinda wondered why they used her in the first place. Her hair is the wrong color. Zahn describes it as red-gold while Shannon's hair color is definitely auburn&hellip; Whatever.– 20:36, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
 * She's Lucasfilm-approved, and would probably be the first one put forth to model for any new cards. If anything, for continuity's sake.Tocneppil 17:54, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Shannon McRandle had her body scanned for the recent Gentle Giant mini-bust of Mara Jade that was available at Gen Con. So I think she's most definitely still the "official" Mara. - Breathesgelatin 19:51, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

NJO Info
I added some NJO info in her bio. It's detailed up until the second to the last paragraph. Feel free to expand the last paragraph. Jed-eye 22:14, 26 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Dark Nest/Swarm War?
The sections in this article for The Dark Nest Crisis and The Swarm War seem to have less to do with Mara Jade then they do with the respective events. Perhaps the information in them should be seperated out into the respective topics?--Anon80
 * I agree, those two sections need some serious trimming. we got to keep the focus on Mara herself, not the conflict at large. unfortunately, i don't have time to go thru and trim all unnecessary stuff out, can someone please help us out here? Wstonefi 03:37, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Improvement Drive
Okay - inspired by the improvement drive, I'm starting reworking on this: initially, I thought it was just a few quirks, but I seem to have drawn myself into a thorough going over of the pre-NJO sections and adding a seperate personality/personal section. Look for it to be posted in a day or two. If no-one picks up on the rest, I'll do that too. --McEwok 18:33, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I noticed there's no mention of the part she played (however small) in the Corellian Trilogy, as an independent trader in the Jade's Fire, delivering Thrackan's message to Han & Leia. Enochf 04:05, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Image
Can we add the pic from the new essential chrono because its a good pic, maybe even better than the main image? it needs to be in somewhere. Jedi Dude

Lando
Someone who knows about this subject should definitely add in the details of Lando and Mara's relationship. Kuralyov 21:46, 1 June 2006 (UTC) User:JainaSolo32
 * I did recall reading somewhere that Mara may have had a crush on Lando
 * There's some talk between Luke & Mara in the Hand of Thrawn duology -Zahn straightening up the Lando stuff from other writers, I think- where she tells Luke that the Lando stuff was some kind of cover she was using. Tocneppil 19:08, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Lando pretty aggressively hits on Mara in the Jedi Academy trilogy... - Breathesgelatin 19:49, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Lightsaber
She took on young Jedi Jaina Solo as her apprentice and constructed a new lightsaber modelled after Jedi Master Qui-Gon Jinn's. Where was this mentioned? Thanos6 03:21, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

The part about her taking on Jaina as an apprentice is from 'Vector Prime.' As for the new lightsaber, I've been wondering about that myself. Can someone tell me exactly what source this comes from? --Benkenobi84 06:14, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I brought it up in the Qui-Gon talk page. It smells like fanon to me. - Angel Blue 451 22:23, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I removed it until a source is found. Angel Blue 451 03:27, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Legacy of the Force
Isn't there more info on Mara in Betrayal? And aren't there better quotes for her? JainaSolo32

Main Image
Who supports putting the previous, better quality main image back? - Angel Blue 451 00:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Not to be biased, but the previous pic has better composition, which works better in the larger size.Tocneppil 02:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I prefer the old one as well. -- Ozzel 05:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * ditto. 06:11, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Right. I'll replace it. - Angel Blue 451 16:55, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Pictures
The pics in this article need to be sorted out. There are way too many in the first part and poorly spaced out. Further down there are not so many pictures. With a gallery dedicated to Mara, I don't think all these need to be up there. --Eyrezer 05:13, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed, it is rather image-heavy. -- Ozzel 05:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * My first vote for which image should go is for the one with the caption that says "Mara is affected by coomb spores...". Not only does the pic have nothing to do with the caption, but we have tons of pics just like it. - Angel Blue 451 17:14, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Well my image of her with Jaina is gone which i thought was rather significant personally...Jedi Dude 17:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The fan art pic? -- Ozzel 17:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Its fanart? O i thought it was from a cover from the earlier books sorry! Jedi Dude 17:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * This one? The Mara is from a real cover, but the rest is all fake. -- Ozzel 18:45, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Also, some of the pics are improperly labeled. For example, there was a picture of Mara that was clearly from the NJO era that was labeled as being from the Swarm War (I don't think we even have any post-NJO images of Mara yet). Don't know if that's still the case, but the captions should definitely be double-checked. - Breathesgelatin 19:47, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Talents? Personality?
Shoud Mara get one? Jedi Dude 17:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes Mara should get one. Jaina Solo ( Goddess Stuff ) [[Image:Jainasolosig.gif |25px]] 21:16, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Voice
Despite her being a huge figure in the EU, a lot of people have never heard her voice. A sound file, like this guy has, would be enlightening. -LtNOWIS 20:22, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

The Daxar Ies info
I removed the following passage, because i think the Gorog Nest became the Dark Nest when Lomi Plo, Welk and Raynar Thul arrived there. But the daughter and wife of Daxar had something to do with revenge on Mara, but I can't remember. Can anyone help with this:

''The Gorog wanted Mara dead, because the Gorog Nest became the Dark Nest when the wife and daughter of Daxar Ies traveled to the Unknown Regions after Daxar's death. They became Gorog Joiners and the idea of revenge against Mara created the Dark Nest.''

--Azizlight 01:40, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Just flipping through Unseen Queen. Raynar actually told Han, Leia and Mara that the Ies women became Joiners and created the Dark Nest. But he was lying, or at least, that was what he believed himself. --Azizlight 02:00, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Main Image
Should Mara's main image be changed to reflect her most recent appearance because the current one shows Mara during her time as a Hand. Jaina Solo ( Goddess Stuff ) 01:36, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * It's the best quality shot of her actress as Mara Jade. So, in this case, no. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 01:39, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

What about this one:

-- Jaina Solo ( Goddess Stuff )  01:46, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keywords: Best Quality. That image is just a plain eyesore. -- Redemption Talk [[Image:Oldrepublic.jpg|15px]] 01:51, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Plus I think she wore that black number in parts of Union -it seemed to me it was like 'work clothes' more than any kind of uniform.Tocneppil 01:27, 22 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I just changed the main image to one of the comic versions, since it's more of portrait than the other one. --Bender235 00:34, 24 October 2006 (UTC)


 * That's from the Japanese cover of Survivor's Quest. But I think a real photo (so long as it is of good quality) should ALWAYS be used in favor of an illustration. I say we bring back other photo. -- Ozzel 00:43, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm reverting it for know until we can decide which image should go in the infobox. Jaina Solo ( Goddess Stuff ) [[Image:Jainasolosig.gif |25px]] 00:45, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't think we necessarily have to prefer real images to comic images, since it is a fictional person anyway. Both kind of pictures would do it.
 * I actually changed the picture because the "main image" should be more of a portrait. --Bender235 07:41, 24 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah, we should have a portrait up there. .  .  .  .  01:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)