Forum:CT Archive/Image vote for Breast

I was browsing the wiki, and came upon the page Breast. When I saw the image, I was appalled that we would put an image such as that on a wiki that caters to a wide range of audiences, including teenagers and impressionable young children. This vote is to change the image, from its current, provocative one of a nude sleeping Aayla Secura to a much less prvocative, equally (if not more) informative main image of the Selonian page. It demonstrates a detailed enough female breast, as well as reverse sexually dimorphed male version. Also, as the current image is from Visions, whose canonocity is disputed, the Selonian image is not in dispute as to its canonocity. Vote support if you believe the image should be changed to the Selonian image, oppose if you believe the image of Secura is satisfactory, and neutral if you cannot yet decide.

Support

 * 1) The CHILDREN'S television series Star Wars: The Clone Wars (TV series) features Secura in a number of its episodes. It is shockingly easy to find this page from hers. Is this something we wish to show children? Something George Lucas would approve of? Is it truly necessary to have an image at all? If we allow this image, what's next? Genitals? Reproduction? Pornography?Gnost-Dural | Hands off the holocrons, THEY'RE MINE!! 23:33, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) Get. Over. It. This is dead-horse beating at its finest. For the thousandth time: Wookieepedia is not censored. Period. It's a pair of breasts, depicted clearly and without smut. If there are children browsing the internet alone, then they are bound to come across much worse much sooner. Furthermore, it doesn't matter what GL would approve of, and let's stop slippery-sloping this shit. Darth Trayus ( Trayus Academy ) 23:40, June 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) Strongly oppose. Per the arguements on the talk page and Trayus. Korsa3 23:46, June 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) Strongly oppose. We put the image that best represents the subject in canon. The current one does that. We will document everything that is in Star Wars canon, regardless of whether people choose to take an issue with that particular piece of canon (just look at TCW), that's what we do. Also, per talk page people, and Wookieepedia is not censored, etc. Grunny  ( talk ) 23:52, June 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1, WP:NOT 2.7. 2, if we're going to use classic fallacious arguments like the slippery slope, you know else wanted to censor so-called degenerate imagery? THE NAZIS. And 3, you're pushing suspiciously hard for that furry picture. Also, your spelling is awful. That's not really related to my vote, but it needs to be said. -- Darth Culator  (Talk) 23:53, June 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) WP:NOTCENSORED (yes, there is a shortcut to that policy) and I will say no more.  Master Jonathan &mdash; Jedi Council Chambers Wednesday, June 29, 2011, 23:58 UTC
 * 2) not sure why you're still tilting at this particular windmill, but there's no reason to remove the picture. Get over it. <- Omicron (Leave a message at the BEEP! ) 01:00, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) Tities  JangFett  (Talk) 01:07, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) Save the boobies.  IFYLOFD  ( Floyd's crib ) 01:11, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * 5) Per Grunny and Trayus and everyone else. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Talk ) 01:18, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * 6) Per above! Kilson ( Let's have a chat ) 01:19, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * 7) Since I can't just delete this thread as nonsense. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 01:40, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * 8) George Lucas approved Ahsoka Tano. His moral judgment is unfit for consideration here. Karohalva 01:45, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * 9) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Next time, listen to the 10 people telling you the image isn't going to be changed on the talk page to avoid public CT embarrassment. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:00, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * 10) As an artist and owner of items similar to the offending objects... I honestly see absolutely nothing wrong with the image. In fact, I like the image.  It is a gorgeous image, it is done tastefully, and the style is nice.  And the image illustrates the article perfectly.  So, what's the problem?  Are you going to next go into art museums and demand that they cover up all the nudes there?  Trak Nar  Ramble on 04:11, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * 11) Titties boobies melons ta-tas juggs and sweater meat!  OLIOSTER  (talk) 04:21, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * 12) Per Trayus, Grunny, and others above, plus my previous arguments in various discussions. Yes, if we have canonical sources for genitalia, reproduction, we should have those articles with best possible images too. We already have pornography so that's not in this debate. –Tm_T (Talk) 04:58, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * This is actually my laptop desktop :P  —Tommy  9281  Thursday, June 30, 2011, 05:03 UTC 
 * 1) Per above. Also ... c'mon! I see more explicit material than that just by picking up a British tabloid! - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 07:40, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) Yeah... 1358  (Talk)  08:33, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) It has been settled three times on the talk page that the image must remain.&mdash;TK-999 Era-imp.png(Rise of the Empire) 09:33, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Discussion
I believe my vote states all that I can say. If necessary, I will open a debate here.Gnost-Dural | Hands off the holocrons, THEY'RE MINE!! 23:33, June 29, 2011 (UTC) You all are sickos! I suppose every single one of you would fight to be the beginning of the line for pages like genital, prostitutes, reproduction, etc. etc. etc. etc. You can delete it if you want, followed by my account. If things like this scandalous (and useless, not to mention incorrect) article become commonplace, perhaps I am the one who should be scarce. It's obvious CONSCIENCES are. Perhaps we ought to change policy to avoid such overt sexuality. Even the FANON wiki (which you look down upon and I now hold in higher regard than this dirty magazine) has rules about such dirt. Do we really want to tarnish the two golden words that marked the beginning of the saga we now celebrate with nude Jedi (in very un-jedi-like clothes, I might add. What Jedi can afford shimmersilk?). Get some lightsabers, some bunnies, and have at it. Without me. This is totally sick and revolting. I'd rather see a geonosian using the toilet than this trash. Go ahead and criticize me if you want (on that note, my keyboard has been having truble with certain letters like o, v, and c. And embarrassment is none of my concern, you all seem to enjoy it so well. It seems that those who point out faults of others have worse faults of their own to deal with. Such as an obsession with naked women.). I will have no part of this trash.Gnost-Dural | Hands off the holocrons, THEY'RE MINE!! 11:35, June 30, 2011 (UTC) NOT FIT FOR JUDGEMENT? When it comes to Star Wars, EVERYTHING needs to be approved by him. That would be like... and forgive me if this is heresy or something... the Israelites building the Tabernacle without asking God his choice in paint colors! I hate using that example, but it's the closest I could come up with.Gnost-Dural | Hands off the holocrons, THEY'RE MINE!! 11:43, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Before I join the dogpile, I need to ask . . . what is the source of the statement that the book is dubiously canonical? jSarek 04:54, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Read the talk page for itGnost-Dural | Hands off the holocrons, THEY'RE MINE!! 11:35, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * So... you're saying you WANT to be degraded to the point of a British tabloid?Gnost-Dural | Hands off the holocrons, THEY'RE MINE!! 11:41, June 30, 2011 (UTC)