User talk:WhiteBoy

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Main Page talk
To encourage discussion at Senate Hall and centralize the assortment of random commentary, we should probably hide the archives of the Main Page talk. I'll volunteer to patrol it make sure that any discussion there is relevant to the Main Page, rather than Wookieepedia overall. Thoughts? --SparqMan 00:41, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Paid Hosting
Evening, I'm a longtime Star Wars fan and actually a member of a Star Wars RPG called the Star Wars Combine and own a very large server for hosting Faction Related Websites and the like. I was wondering if you would like to have Free hosting for the Wookieepedia on my servers. I could help Transfer everything and do the setup work ETC. And you would of course still be the Owner of the Wookieepedia. I know your likally say no but the Wookieepedia's so awsome i had to offer. As a side note i also Maintain a Wiki for the Star Wars Combine Located [HERE] WillSWC 06:14, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not WhiteBoy, but I should point out that WhiteBoy, despite being the founder, does not own Wookieepedia. Nobody does. Such questions should be decided by the community, not one person. And frankly, I do not see any reason to move away from Wikia, with all the support they have been offering. Not to mention that, since Wookieepedia has a shared user database with the rest of Wikia, moving to another hosting would mean a lot of bogus users. - Sikon 10:12, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Your right, No one really OWNS the Compedia. I poorly worded that. And i doubt it will be accepted i know. But honestly the Wookieepedia's so awesome i had to offer. And as for moveing it, I could myself Move almost all of the Wookieepedia in under 2-3 weeks. Thats without help. Userpages would have to stay and be moved by the User but otherwise i can move it myself. WillSWC 10:28, 30 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I would find the move unnecessary. Wikia supports us and to leave them would leave us in the dark. Sorry. -- Riffsyphon1024 04:52, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I cannot add much more to what the others have said. Wikia provides us free hosting and has supported us very well, so we have no reason to leave.  But thanks for kind words and the offer.  WhiteBoy 11:40, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Help
I know that you are probally busy running the largest wiki ever but I was wondering if you could give me a couple words of advice. I am the founder of a new wiki and I am confused on what to do. I am sorry if you bothered you, please respond here. Jimwitz 01:32, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank You so much for your advice. Jimwitz 21:00, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Email
Hi WhiteBoy, Jaymach recommended I talk to you about getting an @wookieepedia.com email address. If you don't mind, I'd like xwing328@wookieepedia.com. Let me know if that's ok. Thanks for your time! 02:51, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Late response to your message: I would like my email address to be imp@wookieepedia.com, if that's alright. =) --Imp 22:40, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh, no problem. I had one already setup for you as Imperialles, but I can change it.  Email or IM me so I can get you the instructions for logging in.  WhiteBoy 22:47, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Wookiee-Cast
Patience, sir. You'll get one each Wednesday. :P .  .  .  .  05:54, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Cool! We should create a WookieeCast (WookieePod?  what's the name of the pod that Yoda used to escape from Kashyyyk?) page and make it official.  Of course maybe we should run that through CT first.  WhiteBoy 23:11, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Way ahead of you. WP:WC. .  .  .  .  23:15, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Seeking Interview with Wookieepedia creators.
Hi WhiteBoy. This is copied from my talk page. Christine asked me in our email correspondence to forward this to you as you are the "creator" of the site. —Xwing328 (Talk) 02:49, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[EMAIL DELETED PER REQUEST] Christine C.R.S. Webmaster & Research I-SCI-FI
 * Thanks, XWing328. I emailed her a few days ago, but have not heard back from her.  Maybe she contacted someone else for the interview?  WhiteBoy 14:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure. Riffsyphon1024 was another one of her "potential" interviewees, so maybe you two can coordinate it somehow, if she doesn't get back to you specifically. 16:53, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm, do you know if anything ever happened with this? —Xwing328 (Talk) 16:45, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * No, I have not heard back from them. Just a comment, tho: What XWing328 copied was not an email sent to him, but rather a comment posted on his own talk page, so there was no confidentiality compromised.  WhiteBoy 20:47, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Help
I tried to create an article (well, actually a category) but misspelled it, realizing it too late. Now I can't change the title, and I can't delete the article. How can it be fixed? Darth Something

4th Bureaucrat on the stand
I know you periodically check here, so before the end of this vote, I'd like your opinion on the matter of Imperialles at Requests for user rights. --  Riffsyphon  1024 06:01, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey, Riff. Thanks for the heads-up.  Yeah, I've known about it since last week.  Haven't decided yet.  I hate to keep voting no on these, because I'm sure people take it personally.  It's nothing against anyone, but I don't see any reason to add another bureaucrat.  There is one (or *maybe* two) other that I would rather have than Imp and I've already voted "no" on them, so at this point I doubt I'll vote "yes."  But I'm still weighing it in my head.  WhiteBoy 13:28, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

q&a (possibly)
Ok. Can you tell me what all this is? I would also like to know: User:DarkJedi Robert
 * If I can get a list of all of the and what they do
 * if I can get the name or username of the person who invented them
 * If I can have somebody tell me how to use them all properly
 * more to come...


 * I think he Help:Editing page may be what you're looking for. WhiteBoy 13:40, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Complaint against an administrator
Hi. This is Jaywin. I wanted to make a brief complaint against an administrator, Darth Culator. I was doing a little bot work (which apparently Culator has a problem with, judging by his comment on my talk page), and he banned me without warning.

More specifically, I was going down the list in the Wanted Pages (which I occasionally do) to try and get rid of some redlinks. Today, I was getting rid of some redlinks that mostly involved IP user pages with a template called "user" (which now Culator has gotten rid of as well). I was also putting welcome templates on the talk pages where they were needed. (Apparently I was using the wrong template on the discussion page. Green Tentacle left a message on my talk page, pointing out my error...which was more of a courtesy than Culator provided. I immediately thanked GT for pointing this out to me.) I began getting rid of some redlinks on Special:Userlist, and (without paying attention, I confess), put the user template on a banned user's page. Apparently this is when I got banned.

I went on the IRC channel to try and straighten this out. Darth Culator was there and basically accused me of being irrational and a vandal. When I suggested that he could have assumed good faith and left a message on my talk page, he responded that he hated it when people mentioned "good faith" (or something to that effect) and then proceeded to kick me off of the IRC.

He then "graciously" unblocked me since he "got my attention" ...of course, he could have got my attention by leaving a message on my talk page, but I guess that would be too much to ask from an administrator who doesn't seem to have much use for the good faith policy.

Personally, I think that Darth Culator's behavior was quite rude and belligerent, and I would expect more from an administrator. Also, judging from his talk page, I'm not the only one who has a problem with the way he conducts business on Wookieepedia.

This wasn't quite as brief as I hoped. But thank you for taking the time to read this, and please feel free to leave a response on my talk page if you'd like. Have a good one. Jaywin 02:01, 28 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm moving this to the administrator forums for discussion.  WhiteBoy 22:48, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Finally an image!
Yeah no pressure, and you look good. I wouldn't know why you're smiling. ;) Though as you can see from the talk page of your article, that anon user was getting upset with me. It wasn't that big of a deal was it? --  Riffsyphon  1024 03:07, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * hehe... no problem at all. I may try to find a little more "normal" pic (i.e. smiling instead of laughing), but that one was handy because a friend had posted it on another web site.  WhiteBoy 14:20, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Request for interview
http://images.wikia.com/central/images/thumb/6/6d/DailyEdit.png/500px-DailyEdit.png The Daily Edit, Wikia's community-written newsletter, has requested that you be interviewed for a future issue. This will be in a bimonthly section called Founder interview. Please answer if you would like to be interviewed. Thanks! --Leon2323 (editor-in-chief of The Daily Edit) 12:07, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure! Email me and let me know what you have in mind.  :)  WhiteBoy 15:28, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, sorry that I have to barge in, but this is too much. Can't the other co-founder get in a little action here? Ok, that totally sounded egotistical right there... It all stems back to that actually sending in for the request. Wikia does not realize that I was a co-founder; they only see one. Is that legit? --  Riffsyphon  1024 16:53, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Now I'm eating my words here. Apparently my name shows up there. --  Riffsyphon  1024 17:02, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * LOL... "action," eh? :D Adventure..heh!  Excitement..heh!   If you want, I'll let you know what I hear from them.  WhiteBoy 09:21, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... ok, how about having both co-founders interviewed?  I'll just ask the interviewer to interview both of you  :-)  --Leon2323 12:21, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a plan. :) WhiteBoy 12:37, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I didn't want to be left out. :D Now how would this work? --  Riffsyphon  1024 14:08, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Dunno. We'll just have to wait for them to contact us.  WhiteBoy 14:26, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I've been having quite a few problems trying to access the internet recently. Also, Swannie will be interviewing you.  --Leon2323 22:13, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Hello. I am the interviewer for The Daily Edit. I'm sorry that I'm getting to you late, I've just been really busy. The entries for the newsletter must be submitted by June 29 (for June issue). When would be a good time to interview? We interview on an IRC Channel....I'll get back to you real soon! Thanks. Swannie 01:09, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

UPDATE:To IRC channel is IRC channel #wikianews on freenode. Sorry, again, about the late notice. We just need to set up a time. Thanks, again! :-) Swannie 01:13, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I can't access that link, it's invalid. If you (Swannie) want to interview me as well, message me on my talk page for a time to get on IRC and private message. --  Riffsyphon  1024 05:20, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * How about Sunday afternoon around 2PM CDT? WhiteBoy 14:13, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Interview Questions
Hi! Okay--would you like me to post the questions for the interview on your talk page, since the link is invalid? Or, would you like to log onto a different IRC Channel? I posted this on Riffsyphon1024's talk page too. Thanks!! Swannie 00:44, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm sure I'll be able to connect to the channel just fine. WhiteBoy 06:20, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I cannot seem to connect to the channel. We'll have to go to a different one. How about the "wikia" channel? 2 pm CDT is fine with me. Talk to you later! Swannie 18:17, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Just so you know, I'll be at http://ircatwork.com/ for the IRC. Just type in your username in the "nickname" box, and type in #wikianews in the "channel" box. That is where I'm going to be. Thanks! :) --Swannie
 * Thank you for the interview time! Good luck with Wookieepedia!! --Swannie

Nebulax
It's come to my attention that a "compromise" has been made. Frankly, this is unacceptable. That was Nebulax's eigth edit war ban. WP:BLOCK proscribes an infinite ban after the fourth offense. Note that Nebulax has forged these compromises in the past, over and over and over again, and nothing has ever come of them but more of the same behavior. He's excellent at playing the pity card, at playing the persecution card, at playing the repentence card. But they're only cards. If he truly meant a word of them, he'd have changed his behavior. But he hasn't. He's been given chance after chance after chance after chance, and he's blown each and every one of them. Why will one more chance make a difference? I told him not to continue edit warring. Instead of being reasonable and working to talk out a compromise version, he continued edit warring, attempted to order around the admin in his edit summary, and responded to the admin with an incredibly rude message. His entire attitude is that he is better than anyone else and will do whatever he wants. He only comes crying to you after he's called on it, putting on the "poor me" act to get an excuse to continue on exactly the same way he's been. If any anon or new user had acted the way he had in that one incident, to say nothing of Jack's long history of identical violations, he would have been out, gone. Why does Jack get special treatment? Because he's been around? I ask you to please step back, put aside the fact that he's a fixture here and we've become acclimated to his juvenile, egocentric behavior, and analyze his situation as you would a non-established user. That's what I did. And once you put aside emotion, which is meaningless, there is no rational, logical, factual reason not to carry out an infinite ban. It's what policy demands and Jack doesn't deserve special treatment, especially not considering that he's gotten that treatment time and time again and has not changed one bit. Please reconsider this "compromise" (which is simply allowing Nebulax to continue his pattern of behavior after a short hiatus). I put my foot down, with more than enough factual backing, and you and Sikon went behind my back to lift that foot back up in a way which I feel undermines my authority, which is necessary for me to perform as an administrator, and the unity and credibility of the administration as a whole by showing that all it takes is one emotional appeal to reverse a decision made by a different administrator. To be honest, I find it rather disrespectful to, on an issue where I had made my determination very clear and had ample factual backing, circumvent me and reverse my decision without even consulting me. I'm aware that this probably occurred on IRC when I was not on; nevertheless, I feel that this would have been much better served to bring me into the process, even if it meant a short wait to post on my userpage and wait for a response the next day. As is, I feel as if my side of the argument did not get a fair hearing and that this compromise is misinformed and in need of another discussion. Havac 00:25, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * First of all, I'm not sure why we're having this conversation. I thought this was between Culator and Sikon, not you and I? :)  So, I'm not sure what you have heard.  Here is the story as far as I know it...  Sikon released the ban on Jack, and it was my understanding that he was going to change it to a week-long ban.  But Sikon apparently did not, so Culator (after listening to my and other admins' opinions) decided to put the week-long ban on.  I did not undermine anyone's authority (I did not change anything and did not tell anyone what to do), and would avoid it if at all possible -- especially when dealing with unruly users.  My main goal was (per our policy) to make it abundantly clear to Jack that due to multiple violations of the WP:3RR which in turn falls under "Disruption" under the WP:BP, this is his Xth warning, which results in his being banned for Y length of time. The next warning will result in his being banned Z length of time.  If he has been given clear, prior warning that "next time is a permaban," then I'm cool with it (please link the warnings and/or the pages with blocked), and we should follow through with it.  Culator did an excellent job of said warning on Jack's talk page today.  I assure you that I'm not defending Jack's actions at all, and have no emotional ties to Jack.  We merely need to follow set policy (and do so as consistently as possible).  On a side note, it seems to me that if the next step is an infinite ban, then the current ban should be for two months.  Otherwise, the next ban should be two months, and the one after that infinite.  Thoughts?  WhiteBoy 06:27, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah. Well, I was told that the compromise was the result of you, Sikon, and Culator talking, so I left that message for you and Sikon and contacted Culator on IRC. I'm glad to see that there was a policy reason behind the decision, which reassures me greatly. If it's one week now, we might as well stick with it and go with the permaban from there, as per the compromise. Yet another change would only make the administration look more divided, confused, and weak-willed. At any rate, I'm glad that this is all settled on this end, though Sikon has expressed on IRC an absolute unwillingness to permaban established users, and is rather clear that he will unilaterally transmute any permaban into a temporary ban regardless of rules, which worries me. I'm going to try talking with him some more; it might help if you did so as well. Havac 00:13, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh, well, it may have been as a result of Culator listening to us, but I wasn't strong-armming him into it. I think he was just willing to listen to us and other admins who thought it was too harsh.  Anyway, Sikon has started a good thread up to discuss it.  I'm sure you've seen it by now, but make sure to hit Forum:Jack Nebulax.  And I am confident that Sikon will uphold whatever the community decides. WhiteBoy 00:55, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * er.. after just reading your statement I am suddenly not as confident that Sikon would do the right thing. I will try to talk to him.  WhiteBoy 01:30, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Ossus.pl
As a senior admin, could you comment on Forum:Ossus.pl - New Polish sister site? Thanks, &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 12:50, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. :)  WhiteBoy 15:12, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Info for The Daily Edit
Hi! You can make it so the newsletter is delivered to your talk page here. Also on that page, there are links to subscribing by email or RSS. Another thing, the interview might be in the June issue. But, I'm not sure yet, because Leon2323 hasn't responded yet. I left a message on his talk page regarding where to put the interview. User:Swannie 20:12, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Noticeboard
If you could take a moment to have a look here, it would be much appreciated. Thanks.--Goodwood 02:19, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

So...
Confirming - sannse (talk) 19:33, 21 August 2007 (UTC)