Talk:Bastila Shan

Needs NPOV
This article is rife with statements in need of an NPOV cleansing. I'm unfamiliar with most of the early Jedi/Sith topics, so someone else with more appropriate credentials should take a look at it. --SparqMan 23:03, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Better quote
One of: "Bastila? I have heard of her. They say she has already mastered the art of Battle Meditation, remarkable in one so young. Though I have heard she has a foolish pride in her own talents."

- Belaya

"Bastila? The young Jedi holds great promise... and great danger."

- Vrook Lamar

"Bastila was strong, but she was always impatient and headstrong. Malak preyed upon her weaknesses."

- Jolee Bindo

"I'm Bastila Shan, a member of the Jedi Order and a fleet commander for the Republic. Nobody 'owns' me!"

- Bastila Shan

The choice is up to you. - Sikon [ Talk ] 15:28, 25 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * I like the last one. But then, I think Jolee's is more appropriate. --Master Starkeiller 21:36, 25 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Where does she say that last one?
 * I don't know, but it's in dialog.tlk. Maybe when Bastila is freed on Taris and the player treats her as a slave? - Sikon [ Talk ] 14:31, 29 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you free her and if you say she ows you, she gives that answer. --Master Starkeiller 22:50, 29 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * I say Vrook's personally, and btw, I think having two quotes on the front is unnecessary and makes it look cluttered --LandoSystem1138 01:15, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Birth date?
Where the heck does Bastila's birth date come from? As far as I know, it is not mentioned in any source. As such, it is pure conjecture and should be removed both from this article and the timeline.--Sentry 00:42, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Bastilashanweb 19:41, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Its not sepcified anywhere, however In my primagames manual, its says "Bastila gifted at a young age fought with Revan..at the age of 18." or something like that. I asked at the Bioware forums a designer confirmed she is 18 soon to be 19. I remember a line in KOTOR when Mission says "Your not much older than me Miss High an Mighty" and since Mission is 14, fir this statement to speak truth Bastila would have to be around 18/19 not 26, right?
 * Where exactly does it state it? I have the Prima Games KotOR guide, and it doesn't say anything about Bastila's age - Kwenn 19:48, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Remember that: 1) Bastila is a romantic interest for the PC, like Carth, who is 38; 2) she was already a Jedi in 3,963 BBY and tried to persuade other Jedi to obey the Council and not to join the Mandalorian Wars; however, 3) she's still a Padawan in K1, although on the verge of knighting. I would say early 20s. - Sikon [ Talk ] 06:45, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Star Forge
As I recall, the council sent Revan and co. out to find something, but it definately wasn't the Star Forge, per se. I think it was more like, they were looking for the thing that they thought had turned Revan to the dark side. I'm not entirely sure about what exactly the mission was, which is why I'm leaving it alone, but I'm pretty sure they didn't know about the Forge as such until Rataka Prime.
 * The original purpose of providing Revan with a new identity was to identify the source of the Sith's massive fleet. That source turned out to be the Star Forge. After the player explores the Dantooine ruins, the Enclave Council learns that something called the Star Forge exists and that Revan and Malak were searching for it. Sooo, the quest WAS to find the Star Forge.--Sentry 11:09, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I know that, but I don't think they knew it was the Star Forge when they went looking for it. At least, they didn't know the name "Star Forge" which the article seems to suggest they did.--Tulkas Mirith 21:51, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
 * They knew the name. They didn't know what it was though. Remember the Guardian Droid on Dantooine. Who mentions the Builders greatest creation, the Star Forge. --Redemption 21:57, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Is that so. Well, I feel like kind of an idiot.  Been a bit since I've played it, so I must have formed an incorrect memory or something.  I could've sworn they didn't get the name "Star Forge", but I must be wrong.--Tulkas Mirith 00:32, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Image
What's the source for the image? Why was it replaced? I liked the old one better. - Sikon [ Talk ] 11:00, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Where do hear these things?
Where and when does Bastila say her surname and where she is from, Talravin?

Master Nikolce 08:18, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
 * The only time I can actually recall of Bastilas surname said is when she is reporting to Admiral Dodonna in the DS version (This is Bastila Shan...) as for her homeplanet, she says in her dlg that she was from Talravin. --Redemption 03:45, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Talravin is in her databank entry, and she also says the last name on Taris if you try to tell her that you "own" her after she gets freed from the Vulkars. - Sikon [ Talk ] 07:27, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

That and it is printed EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING FOR HER! It was Shan on the KOTORI Website MONTHS before the release (I know, I visited there almost every day.) No Sig. Not Registered.

Another ending, with Bastila's death
When I played as a lightside female and defeated darkside Bastila I killed her. The game wouldn't let me do otherwise. When she insisted that I kill her I had no option to refuse so I cut her head off. Shouldn't this alternate ending be mentioned too? Vruki Salet 18:05, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
 * You can't cut her head off.... - Kwenn 18:15, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
 * OK maybe you're right in a sense - it was off-camera, but it was strongly implied. In a cut-scene she knelt down and I raised my saber with what looked like the obvious intention to cut her head off. It wasn't shown but what happened was pretty clear. The saber was swung and she was dead, gone, no longer a character in the game. I guess I could have cut her some other way but it didn't look like that.

Bastila on Korriban
I go to Korriban before getting picked up by the Leviathan (therefore, before I open the fourth Star Map). Docked there, the party selection screen disallows me from selecting Bastila. She apparently refuses to set foot on the Sith world.

I try to talk to Bastila about Korriban but no relevant dialog choices show up. What's the story behind this? --68.102.193.78 02:20, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
 * You probably have missed a cutscene where Bastila explains this. She is afraid that the Sith will recognize her, so she decides to stay on the ship. (Obviously the Sith on Manaan are too dumb to recognize Bastila — after all, those on Taris didn't, despite having been specifically ordered to seek her — and the Sith on Korriban will never choose to inspect the Ebon Hawk seeking, for example, illegal cargo. ) - Sikon [ Talk ] 02:55, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

The Jedi Trained by the Exile
The Exile didn't neccessarily train any Jedi. You have the option to (which I found pretty stupid to be honest, you can't learn that sort of skill that fast unless you're a Skywalker) - but you don't have to. So I don't see how this can be considered to be a part of the continuity until it's clarified by a later game/novel/comic/sourcebook or something. So I ask, why are they mentioned in the article when they might not even be Jedi as far as continuity is concerned? (Ulicus 22:56, 21 May 2006 (UTC))
 * Your point being? Why post it here? - Sikon [ Talk ] 04:16, 22 May 2006 (UTC)