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Hey, hi there! I'm new around here so I have a couple of questions. How can I edit semi-protected articles in order to add more sources and appearances?


 * You have to wait until you are "autoconfirmed", which will occur your account reaches four days old. Note that additionally, some articles are also "supersemiprotected" through the abuse filter; on those you'll also need to have made 150 edits before you can edit them. Also, please sign your comments on talk and forum pages with, which will automatically convert into a link to your userpage and a timestamp. Master Jonathan Holocomm Friday, December 23, 2011, 00:11 UTC

Than you so much for the advice! And yeah, sorry, I'll remember to sign my posts and comments :D Plagueis327 00:15, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yes please. I did not mean to make a mess, but Wookieepedia's sourcing directions were no very clear. Something was cited as 30 to Riptide, but it wasnt cited correctly. Could you fix it.24.193.145.164 06:01, December 25, 2011 (UTC)

Already done! And don't worry, I'm new too! Plagueis327 06:09, December 25, 2011 (UTC)

Encyclopedia
Hey Plagueis327. Please make a look to follow the Layout Guide when adding sources to articles&mdash;in particular, Encyclopedia entries always come after everything else, so the Book of Sith, even though it's unreleased, needs to go before them. I would suggest going through your recent edits to make sure all are in compliance with policy. Thanks, and Merry Christmas. :)  CC7567  (talk) 22:49, December 25, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I'll check it out, sorry about the mess, and Merry Christmas! :D Plagueis327 22:51, December 25, 2011 (UTC)

Hey again, Plagueis. I just wanted to advise you to make use of the "Preview" button to submit larger edits at a time, instead of making a series of minor edits. The reason is that an overabundance of edits to the same page tends to clog up the Recent Changes page and makes vandalism less easy to spot. We all make mistakes and have to make minor edits to correct them, but if you could avoid making an excess of edits where not needed, that would be great. Thanks. :)  CC7567  (talk) 01:29, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

No problem, I'll bear that in mind, and sorry for the disturbance! :D Plagueis327 01:30, December 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hiya. Just wanted to let you know that per a recent CT Databank entries are not the same as the new Encyclopedia on source lists. They are to be treated as though they were released in September 2011 and sources more recent than that are to be listed under them with Enc entries after that. Also, please make an article for Family Tradition and update Operation: Knightfall for any new information therein (I can update it if you'll give me the info). The article can lose its status because of a redlink in the source list. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 04:28, December 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * Got it! And no problem, the mention of the event is too little. But I'll take care of it, and thx for the info! :D Plagueis327 14:52, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Plagueis, I just want to make sure you know what using the Preview button means. The point of previewing your work before to submit it is to avoid making a series of small but numerous edits that can clog up the Recent Changes. Please try to preview and proofread your work more before submitting edits. Thanks.  CC7567  (talk) 04:36, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Mortis
Please know that Youtube is not a proper source for articles or for uploading images. Please have patience and wait for the release of the book before uploading poor quality images. Thanks,  JangFett  (Talk) 20:58, December 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure, no problem. Sorry for the inconvenience! :D Plagueis327 20:59, December 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for understanding. :) Once the book is released, higher quality images, plus more information about Mortis' appearance in the book, will be available.  JangFett  (Talk) 21:00, December 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * I already pre-ordered the book, so once it is released, I'll be pleased to help as much as possible! Plagueis327 21:02, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

TCW DVD collections
Hey Plagueis. To be honest&hellip;there really doesn't seem to be a good reason to treat DVD collections as a source for every single subject that appears in every single republished episode. We don't treat trade paperback collections for comics or even Omnibus publications as sources unless they release new info that wasn't present in the original comic, and for the most part, that isn't the case for the DVD collections in regards to the episodes. If you have better reasoning on why they should be treated as sources, I'd be happy to hear them, but otherwise we shouldn't be going overboard with mass-listing DVD collections as sources. Thanks.  CC7567  (talk) 06:32, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Almost every single first CW season episode contains a documentary which speaks about almost everything present in the episode. That's why I'm adding it. However If you don't think that should be that way, I'd be happy to solve the problem, sorry for the inconvenience, it won't happen again. Plagueis327 16:17, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, that's fine&mdash;I understand about The Complete Season One, what with the episode commentaries that we don't see anymore. It's just that that doesn't seem to be the case for the second and third season, which was my main point earlier. I would just recommend looking at the DVD commentaries again and removing The Complete Season Two and The Complete Season Three from subjects that aren't mentioned in the commentaries.  CC7567  (talk) 23:07, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I'll take care of it, sorry about that, and thanks for point it out. Plagueis327 23:17, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Please help
Do u know where I can find a copy of the Wrath of Darth Maul to read?24.193.145.164 23:51, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, Hi there! No, unfortunately I don't know where to get a copy of "The Wrath of Darth Maul", the place from where I get information regarding with the book is Google Books. Here's the link: http://books.google.com.mx/books?id=9iKFvh0z3CAC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Darth+Maul&hl=en&sa=X&ei=lYQCT5_MNo7AgAfyjK22Ag&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Darth%20Maul&f=false And BTW, I would try to get the book in either Banes and Noble or Amazon.com. Good luck, and thx for your question! :D Plagueis327 04:33, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Bravo 1
Could you show the the quote in which Olie's ship was mentioned in Darth Plagueis? If it somehow mentioned Olie at the battle, that doesn't specify the ship. NaruHina Talk  23:39, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Sure, no problem Plagueis327 23:40, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Go here:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/034551128X/ref=s9_simh_gw_p14_d0_g14_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=113EFJZA2MA7BB8CEBE3&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846 and write "Bravo" in the "Search Inside this book" section. It'll show you a little excerpt from page 275, showing you the name of the ship, and of Ric Olié himself! Plagueis327 23:42, January 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * That is bizarre. And awesome! :3 Just as a note, you can shorten external links with single brackets like this: [www.website.net Bunch of words] That's just a single space between the link and text. Cheers. NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 01:09, January 4, 2012 (UTC)   NaruHina  Talk Anakinsolo.png 01:09, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, thx for the advice. Glad you could use that link! :D Plagueis327 01:10, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Stop
Plagueis, this is not a source. Only official sources, such as source books, various SW.com articles, should be added to articles, not this. Please take a look at our canon policy before continuing to add nonsense sources to articles.  JangFett  (Talk) 01:56, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Got it, I was already warned by other user. I'm terribly sorry about this. I really thought it was a source. I'll read your Canon Policy right away. Plagueis327 01:57, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Preview
Haha You are quite the active editor. lol Could you try using the "Preview" button more so all your edits don't clog up the Recent Changes page. I know you want to get to 15,000 edits, but you'll make it eventually. lol It's just hard to keep up with the RC page when every five minutes it's filled with all new edits by one user. Thanks! :) MasterFred (Whatever) 19:39, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey, no problem! I'll try to slow down! And thx for the good advice! :D Plagueis327 19:40, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ha, no problem. lol MasterFred Commerce Guild.svg(Whatever) 19:42, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

TEA
Helo, please stop you edits from TEA and remove the others, you are making huge mistakes. You can't put TEA as a source for planets but only for star systems. And you can conclude about the planets affiliations only if the system is clearly represented on the maps. Hk 47 20:26, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * The reason why I conclude the affiliation of some planets with certain groups, is because those places are marked as being part of such organizations in TEA. Plagueis327 20:56, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Where Caprioril is mentioned as part of the New Republic ? And why are you adding planet stub everywhere ?  Hk 47 21:54, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Uh, the article itself said that before I added the source. And I'm adding planet stub everywhere because all of those articles are too small. Plagueis327 21:57, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Stop this imediatly, it's stupid. If the articles are small, it's simply because there isn't mmore informations. You can't do this if you are not sure there is more to say. And TEA doesn't mention Caprioril, so you invent a source? Stop this and remove your edits.Hk 47 22:05, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Listen, there's no reason to offend each other's work? is it? Anyway, I didn't invent a source, the article said that the planet was affiliated to the New Republic before I edited it, so I thought that I could relate it with TEA, by adding a source. Anyway, if it's so annoying to you my "stub" editions, I'll remove 'em at once. Sorry for the inconvenience. Plagueis327 22:08, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok tanks, and don't edit the articles anymore if you are not sure of what you do. Hk 47 22:27, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, thx, and sorry for all the trouble! I promise to make a better work! Plagueis327 22:30, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Planet stub
Hey there. Why are you removing Planet-stub from articles that are obviously planet stubs? Menkooroo 22:47, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh my. So, there's a guy who told me that I should remove 'em all, and now you tell me to keep 'em. Ok, the reason why I'm removing 'em is because they can't be planet-stubs, because there's not enough information to improve 'em anyway. What should I do? Do I leave them with that category, or do I remove it? Plagueis327 22:50, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Unless you can prove the articles' sources do not have enough information for the articles themselves, simply removing a ton of stub templates isn't proper. Plagueis, if you are confused about what you could accomplish here on Wookieepedia, you can take a look at this as a start. Throughout your talk page, many have warned you and discussed about sources and various things you have done incorrectly in the past. Try not to mass remove templates unless you can confirm the article doesn't need it. Expanding a stub, however, could be an option.  JangFett  (Talk) 22:59, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, many of the planets I checked today are just mentioned in The Essential Atlas. Aside from that, there's just no more information about those planets; I understand that is considered a "stub", but I'm a little but confused here, How can they be stubs, if there's no information to change that? Plagueis327 23:01, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * If it's a TEA-created subject, then a stub template may not be needed. However, even though it's new, it could possibly have information about it in TEA itself. Although, yeah, that's not always the case. I also noticed most of the articles you've been removing templates from come from novels. If you're not sure, it's best to leave the template alone unless you can confirm it through a source yourself. I hope you're not judging an article by its size either.  JangFett  (Talk) 23:06, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Articles like Clær could easily have more info on them. It's pretty difficult to write any complete planet article and have it be below 250 words --- the Dilonexa planets are clutch examples of that. Menkooroo 23:08, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Y'know, you both are right, I'm not judging an article by its size, but by its sources and appearances, since almost every planet I've edited today are part or simply mentioned (just mentioned) in TEA, I followed what this guy told me. I've read the "to-do list on wookieepedia" and it seems that there are plenty of things that I could do to improve the site, so I'll stick to that. I apologize for all of the inconveniences, I'm working on it. Plagueis327 23:12, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Plagueis, since you're new, you probably didn't know that you shouldn't also judge an appearance or source section by its size or expand an article through those alone. Many appearance/sources sections on the Wook can be incomplete, and at times nonexistent. Like you have done in the past, you can expand the source list, with adequate sources, as I explained to you yesterday. That's always helpful. Also, be sure to know to place the sources in publish date order. Appearances go in IU order via BBY/ABY system. I'm sure you know this, but at times, you were incorrect with certain placements of sources. If you're not sure, the best way to check a release date is by checking a source's article. Same goes with the appearances, via IU date. You should double check your removal of stub article edits to see what was incorrect. Hope this helps, Plagueis.  JangFett  (Talk) 23:19, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I know that I must always put in chronological order both appearances and sources. What I was confused about was the stub-thing, but I think I got it, Thx for the info, and your patience :D Plagueis327 23:24, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's me who told him to remove the planet-stub he added without verifying if there is more information to add. See previous subject on this page. Hk 47 23:26, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Stub templates
Hi Plagueis327, please place stub templates only in articles where you know that additional information exists that can be used to expand the article. Many short articles can't be expanded because there's no further information available. Those articles don't need a stub template. Regards, --Craven 19:03, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

I got the same problem yesterday. I'm trying to only edit articles that need the template, but I'll be more careful though. Plagueis327 19:04, January 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi there, I would just like to second what Craven said, and please don't re-add it if someone removes it. Keep up the great work! Corellian PremierRobotech.jpg along the watchtower 01:26, January 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * Got it! And thx for your compliment!!! :D Plagueis327 01:29, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Hi, just wanted to emphasize again, please only add the template to articles where you know that further information exists. Edits like, , or  are unnecessary. And maybe you could use the preview button more often, it helps you find any errors you have made and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. Thanks again. --Craven 03:18, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Well, some of those articles can be improved for sure. Unfortunately, I do not have the material to complement that :( And regarding the preview button, I'm using it as much as I can. Thx for your concern!! :D Plagueis327 03:21, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * As I discussed with you eariler, please do not tag every small article you come across. I haven't actually looked entirely, but there were many articles that did not need a stub tag. Please be more careful in the future.  JangFett  (Talk) 03:39, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Sure Jang, no prob bro! :D Plagueis327 03:42, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Imageless books
As you are going around puting imageless messages on books, you might as well just load an image up yourself because it takes ten seconds to find a website selling books and download it.--501st dogma 18:27, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

I've been lookin' 'round the red, but the images for many books are just not there! Plagueis327 18:30, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, but I still managed to find and upload one for Star Wars: The Blueprints--501st dogma 18:34, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

THX!!!!!!! :D Plagueis327 18:55, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Whitespace
Hey there! Whitespace should be avoided. Adding a line of whitespace isn't a cosmetic improvement. Cheers! Menkooroo 22:26, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, hi there! I was actually trying to separate the infobox from the text, but well, it didn't turn out to be what I expected though :p Plagueis327 22:27, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Rescue of Rahm Kota
Hey, Plagueis! Welcome to WP:VG! Thank you for reviewing Rescue of Rahm Kota. However, I just thought I'd let you know that when you vote, you have to manually update the count. For example, if it is currently at (3 Inqs/2 Users/5 Total), then the next user to vote must change it to (3 Inqs/3 Users/6 Total). Cheers!&mdash; Cal Jedi (Personal Comm Channel) 22:35, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, now I see why the counter did not update itself!!! Thx for the advice, and great job BTW!! That's the best level of the game by far!!!!!!!!!! :D Plagueis327 22:42, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * You're definitely welcome. Thanks for your cooperation. Happy editing&mdash; Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 22:47, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Thx, and my pleasure! :D Plagueis327 22:50, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

YouTube
Hey, Plagueis. Please do not add YouTube as sources or references any more. YouTube is not a source, and we do not add links to it in the articles. Thank you for your cooperation.&mdash; Cal Jedi (Personal Comm Channel) 04:24, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I thought it'd be good to add it as a source, since it shows so much new material regarding the Fourth Season of the show. Plagueis327 04:25, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Since YouTube is usually not a very reliable source of information, we do not usually trust information gleaned from it.&mdash; Cal Jedi Infinite Empire.svg (Personal Comm Channel) 04:27, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, no problem, and thx for your concern! :D Plagueis327 04:29, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Stub
Stop this, I'm very tired to remove your stub for completes pages. I already said you to verify the sources before editing.Hk 47 13:21, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

And I did, I checked if some of those planets could have the "stub" category before I edited 'em. Plagueis327 19:55, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Father (mortis)
Just letting you know that one of the pictures you edited on the page was messed up after you edited, I think it was the first body picture. I would fix it but since its currently inuse by you I'll let you do it. --501st dogma 22:09, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, thx for the advice, I'll try do to a good job :P Plagueis327 22:10, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Speculation
Hey Plagueis, I wanted to bring this to your attention since you're working on an article. This is speculation and it should be avoided in articles. I'm not sure if you have, but please take a look at WP:ATT and WP:NPOV. For encyclopedic writing, it's best to avoid "may have," "seemed to," "probably," "unknown," "could have," ect, which are generally speculative terms/phrases. If it's not in a source, it's better to not include it. :P  JangFett  (Talk) 08:44, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll remove it from the article at one, thx for the advice! Plagueis327 14:19, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

FA's in Star Wars: Darth Plagueis
Hello Plagueis327, as you have done a good job adding in appearances for Star Wars: Darth Plagueis, can you tell me if any of the FA's, such as Sio Bibble, Sim Aloo and Janus Greejatus, have any new information that needs to be added to their bios? If so, then I will make do whatever is necessary to make sure that somebody does update them. Thanks. Hanzo Hasashi 19:05, January 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * I´m actually waiting to get the novel (although I won a copy of the novel before its release date, it is incomplete however). Anyway, Sio Biblle appears a little bit, Sim Aloo is only mentioned, and Janus Greejatus, well, I don't remember anything about that guy, excepting that his name appeared in Amazon's excerpt of the novel, I'll let you know when I have more information about it. :P Plagueis327 20:55, January 11, 2012 (UTC) 14:55, January 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Be sure to not add an update tag unless it's actually warranted. No new info = no update. Menkooroo 20:58, January 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * But there's little new info about those characters. Just not as much as it should, but there's info. Plagueis327 21:05, January 11, 2012 (UTC) 15:05, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Father (Mortis)
Hi, nice to meet a new user who's willing to try himself in FA writing :) At a cursory glance, the article looks quite good. Just remember that you only need to link each item once upon its first mention. That means once in the intro, once in the infobox, and once in the main body. Also make sure that every term you introduce is given proper context, such as the Chosen One. And finally don't forget to read through the article carefully once you've done writing it in order to fix any grammar and punctuation issues (for example, the plural form of Jedi is also "Jedi," not "Jedis"). If you think that you need help with the latter, you may also ask one of the users here to do a copy-edit. specializes in this field, and he's always willing to do great copy-edits. That's it. Good luck with your nomination.  QuiGonJinn  (Talk) 12:26, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thx for responding! And I'll take care of everything you've mentioned. When I nominate the article, I'll make sure to let you know! Thank you again! :D Plagueis327 14:52, January 12, 2012 (UTC) 6:52, Jamuary 12, 2012 (UTC)

Question
Are you just adding stub templates to short-looking articles turning up in Special:RandomPage, or do you actually have access to the source material? If you don't have that, I'd advise against adding the stub templates&mdash;a short article does not necessarily equal a stub. Thanks. 1358 (Talk)  17:46, January 12, 2012 (UTC) I see that you've been advised about this already, so let me try another approach: Do you have access to the source of Spun-plast? If yes, let me know what additional information is missing from it. Thanks. ToRsO bOy 18:41, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * I have access to some of the source material. Besides, some of those articles are pretty short, and need maintenance Plagueis327 17:48, January 12, 2012 (UTC) 9:48, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * If you have access to the source material, and know that the article can use more information, then you are free to add stub tags. But if you don't know, please don't. Remember edit count doesn't matter. Quality over quantity. It's much more appreciated if you expand and clean up the articles (and even promote them to some status!) than if you go around tagging numerous articles as stubs and bad quality. Cheers, 1358  (Talk)  17:52, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm actually trying to promote this article to FA status. Thx, for the advice, and once I have the time, I'll add more information, using the sources I have. Plagueis327 17:55, January 12, 2012 (UTC) 9:54, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. And one last thing: Could you remember to mark your small edits as minor? Under the edit summary field, tick the box "minor edit". Cheers, 1358  (Talk)  18:00, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem, and thx for the advice!!!!! Plagueis327 18:02, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * I was referring to the small box saying "Mark as minor". Just below the edit summary :) 1358  (Talk)  18:03, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * The problem of being new, is that you don't know where everything is :P Plagueis327 18:05, January 12, 2012 (UTC)