Wookieepedia:AC/Log/2011 January 15

[23:00]	=-=	Topic for #wookieepedia-agricorps is “Meeting Thirty-One **TONIGHT** -- http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Meeting_Thirty-One” [23:00]	=-=	Topic for #wookieepedia-agricorps was set by ecks!~ecks@unaffiliated/xd1358 on 15. tammikuuta 2011 22:48:00 [23:00]	 	Okay everyone, welcome to meeting 31. [23:00]		Howdy. [23:00]	 	Starting with articles from last time. [23:00]	 	o/ [23:00]		Hey, first one in awhile for me [23:00]	 	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Showdown_on_Coruscant [23:00]	 	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Showdown_on_Coruscant [23:00]	 	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Showdown_on_Coruscant&diff=3398334&oldid=3367938 [23:00]	 	Absentees: All four say kill. [23:00]		Kill with fire [23:00]	 	This one is just...meh. [23:00]		Kill it. It's been way too much of a headache. [23:01]	 	I say kill, let it go through the GAN again [23:02]	 	I say kill. [23:02]		Ok, kill then [23:02]		I'm with grunny [23:02]		Kill it [23:02]	 	Jang? [23:02]	 	ah, you already said. :P [23:02]		Kill [23:02]	 	Showdown on Coruscant killed. [23:02]	 	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Acros-Krik [23:02]	 	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Acros-Krik [23:02]	 	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Acros-Krik&diff=3403883&oldid=3373125 [23:02]	 	Absentees: All four say kill. [23:02]		CC did a great job fixing up the writing [23:02]	 	I did a little cleanup, but I don't have access to Hyperspace, so I can't speak for the issue with Dex's Diner. It was added as an appearance, though. CC7567 (talk)09:06, January 15, 2011 (UTC) [23:02]		but he said he didn't check that, yeah [23:03]		if it's an appearance, it probably has some new info [23:03]		I guess kill then [23:03]		might we extend it to give someone an opportunity to check it? [23:04]	 	I'm fine with that. [23:04]		it's not a difficult item to obtain [23:04]	-->|	JangVhett (~JangFett@wikia/JangFett) has joined #wookieepedia-agricorps [23:04]	=-=	Mode #wookieepedia-agricorps +o JangVhett by ChanServ [23:04]		I'd support an extension on probation. [23:04]	 	Extend probe. [23:04]	 	extend to let someone check [23:04]	|<--	Jang|Away has left irc.freenode.com (Disconnected by services) [23:04]		extend it [23:04]	=-=	JangVhett is now known as Jang|Away [23:04]	 	Jang? [23:04]	<ChackJadson>	Xtend [23:04]	<Jang|Away>	What [23:04]	<Jang|Away>	What's the article, sorry [23:04]	 	Acros-Krik. [23:05]	<Jang|Away>	Oh, extend [23:05]	 	We want to extend probe to give someone the opportunity to check. [23:05]	<Toprawa>	Xtenze [23:05]	<ChackJadson>	XD [23:05]	 	Okay, Acros-Krik extended. :P [23:05]	<Jang|Away>	heh [23:05]	 	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kolto [23:05]	 	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Kolto [23:05]	 	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Kolto&diff=3402208&oldid=3373126 [23:05]	 	Absentees: All four say keep. [23:06]	<ChackJadson>	Keep [23:06]	 	Tm worked on it. [23:06]	<Toprawa>	Tm handled the issues [23:06]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Keep. [23:06]	<Toprawa>	Keep [23:06]	 	Keep. [23:06]	<Jang|Away>	Keep [23:06]	 	keepers [23:06]	 	Kolto kept. [23:06]	 	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Romba [23:06]	 	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Romba_%28second_review%29 [23:06]	 	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Romba&diff=3399626&oldid=3373131 [23:06]	 	Absentees: All four say kill. [23:06]	<Jang|Away>	Kill with fire [23:06]	<Toprawa>	Kill it. [23:06]	 	kill [23:07]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Kill. [23:07]	 	kill [23:07]	<ChackJadson>	Kill [23:07]	 	Romba killed. [23:07]	 	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Space_Battle_at_Kuat [23:07]	 	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Space_Battle_at_Kuat [23:07]	 	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Space_Battle_at_Kuat&diff=3395421&oldid=3373130 [23:07]	 	Absentees: All four say kill. [23:07]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Kill away. [23:07]	<ChackJadson>	Kill [23:07]	<Jang|Away>	Killz [23:07]	 	killify [23:07]	 	 [23:08]	 	Toprawa? [23:08]	<Toprawa>	Not fixed enough. [23:08]	<Toprawa>	Kill [23:08]	 	Space Battle at Kuat killed. [23:08]	 	Next up, new articles. [23:08]	 	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Malak_(Rodian) [23:08]	<Toprawa>	weh? [23:08]	 	Several things. Firstly, Galaxy Guide 11, which prides itself on taking place in 10 ABY, states that Malak is 36 years old as of that time. 10 - 36 = a DOB of 26 BBY, not 25 BBY. Secondly, there's nothing in the sourcebook that I can see suggesting that the in-universe "TracSheet" profiling the character is compiled by the New Republic. If anything, I would say it's meant to imply Imperial... [23:08]	 	...categorization based on the identical "Imperial TracSheet" example provided in the book. Thirdly, this just doesn't make any sense: "and kept a record on her activities using the TracSheet11706900-AGTY-233476. " Malak is categorized as "TracSheet Subject: 11706900-AGTY-233476." This should be worded better/less ESL. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:35, December 29, 2010 (UTC) [23:08]	* Toprawa	feels he might be lagging badly [23:08]	<ChackJadson>	Probe [23:08]	<Toprawa>	Probe [23:08]	 	probe [23:08]	<Jang|Away>	probe [23:08]	 	Probe [23:09]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Probify. [23:09]	 	Malak (not Sith lord) probed. [23:09]	 	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dengless_Rinn [23:09]	 	Galaxy Guide 11, which is set in 10 ABY, states Dengless Rinn is 45 years old as of that time. 10 - 45 = a DOB of 35 BBY, not 39 BBY. Other portions of this article are apparently written on the presumption that the sourcebook is set in 6 ABY. I will quote from the book itself: Galaxy Guide 11: Criminal Organizations is set approximately six years after Return of the Jedi. This all needs... [23:09]	 	...revision. Toprawa and Ralltiir 00:18, December 30, 2010 (UTC) [23:09]	<Toprawa>	Probe [23:09]	 	Probe [23:09]	<Jang|Away>	probe droid [23:09]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Probify. [23:09]	 	Probe [23:09]	<ChackJadson>	Probe [23:10]	 	Dengless Rinn probed. [23:10]	 	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jurokk [23:10]	 	"apparently requires an update from the Revenge of the Sith game " --CC [23:10]	<ChackJadson>	Probe, I suppose [23:10]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Probe. [23:10]	<Jang|Away>	Yeah, probe [23:10]	 	Probe [23:10]	 	Probe [23:10]	<Toprawa>	FWIW... [23:10]	<Toprawa>	the update tag was added by Mauser [23:10]	<Toprawa>	we determined at the last Inqmoot not all of his update tags are correct [23:11]	<Jang|Away>	I have played and own the game. :P [23:11]	<Toprawa>	Probe, I guess, but don't be surprised if it turns out to be wrong; he doesn't exactly specify what needs updating [23:11]	<Jang|Away>	I could check [23:11]	 	Do it before next meeting. :P [23:11]	<Jang|Away>	sure [23:11]	<GrandMoffTranner>	I believe The Jedi Path: A Manual for Students of the Force has established Jurokk as being an enemy killed in the ROTS game. [23:11]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Not sure, but I believe that's the basis for the update. [23:11]	<ChackJadson>	Thanks, Jang [23:11]	 	Cool. [23:12]	 	Jurokk probed. [23:12]	<Jang|Away>	I can also check the prima guide too [23:12]	 	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nothoiin_%28species%29 [23:12]	 	Update needed. [23:12]	<ChackJadson>	Probe [23:12]	<Jang|Away>	probe [23:12]	<Toprawa>	You skipped one. :P [23:12]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Probe, but we skipped Sith trooper armor. [23:12]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Bah. [23:12]	 	Ah, we'll do that as next. :P [23:12]	 	Thanks for that. [23:12]	 	Probe [23:13]	 	Probe [23:13]	<Toprawa>	Probe Nothoiin, though [23:13]	 	Nothoiin probed. [23:13]	 	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_trooper_armor [23:13]	 	"needs some updating from TOR stuff " [23:13]	<Toprawa>	Wait [23:13]	<Toprawa>	Pause for a second [23:13]	<Toprawa>	Also state on the Nothoiin probe page that Rough and Tundra is not an Appearance [23:14]	 	Okay. [23:14]	<Toprawa>	I don't think... [23:14]	 	Probe Sith trooper armor [23:14]	<Toprawa>	there's like one part where it's an IU dialogue [23:14]	<Toprawa>	he might be in that [23:14]	<Toprawa>	Probe Sith trooper armor [23:14]	 	Probe. [23:14]	<ChackJadson>	Probe [23:14]	<Jang|Away>	probee [23:14]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Probe. [23:14]	 	Sith trooper armor probed. [23:15]	 	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Second_Battle_of_Korriban_%28Great_Hyperspace_War%29 [23:15]	 	"TOR Timeline update needed " [23:15]	<ChackJadson>	Probe [23:15]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Probe. [23:15]	<Toprawa>	Probe [23:15]	 	Probe [23:15]	<Jang|Away>	TOR 9_9 probe [23:15]	 	probe [23:15]	 	Battle probed. [23:16]	 	Okay, nothing else in the maintenance bin. [23:16]	 	Has anyone else something to probe? :P [23:16]	 	Or are we ready to discuss stuff? :P [23:16]	<Toprawa>	Move along, move along [23:16]	 	discuss away [23:16]	 	Reorganization of GA page. There have been brief discussions over IRC about doing something with the "Conjecture" subsection for "Individuals." We'll throw out some ideas and see what works best. Toprawa and Ralltiir23:38, December 31, 2010 (UTC) [23:17]	 	I haven't heard of this, so Tope has the floor. [23:17]	<Toprawa>	Ok, basically just subsectioning the Conjecture subsection [23:17]	<Toprawa>	we could put it on a new line or whatever below the alphabetical subsectioning [23:17]	<Toprawa>	then alphabetically subsection it from there, if that makes sense [23:18]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Sounds good to me. [23:18]	<ChackJadson>	What, so it's a subsection within characters? [23:18]	<Jang|Away>	I support [23:18]	<Toprawa>	it's a subsection of "Conjecture" [23:18]	 	Toprawa: You mean subsectioning the conjecturals? [23:18]	<Toprawa>	yes [23:18]	 	Support. [23:19]	*Jang|Away*	I'll be away for a while. Jang wishes to do post-meeting paper work. :P [23:19]	 	Grunny? [23:19]	<Toprawa>	it would essentially mean the Individuals section becomes like 10 times longer [23:19]	 	support [23:19]	<Toprawa>	but I don't see any other alternatives [23:20]	 	Okay, agreed to subsection the conjectural section of the GA page. [23:20]	 	we talked about it before, but the conjecture section is just getting too big [23:20]	<Toprawa>	yeah [23:20]	 	AC Reviewing Award. Xd recently posted the 2010 reviewing statistics, and I thought it would be neato if we could cook up some kind of official award to give to whomever, AC member or otherwise, does the most reviewing at the end of each year. This would ultimately be an unofficial preliminary discussion, as awards will need a formal CT now to be "site official" since we no longer have the... [23:20]	 	...award proposal page. Could be used for Inq too if we all like the idea. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:38, December 31, 2010 (UTC) [23:20]	 	Seems like a good idea. [23:20]	<ChackJadson>	One thing: why would this have to be CTed, since it involves us and us alone? [23:21]	 	I support this, and also an Archiving award [23:21]	<Toprawa>	well, we could create our own award, but we can't put it on the Award page without site consensus [23:21]	<ChackJadson>	Ok, gotcha [23:21]	<Toprawa>	the idea is to list it as an official award [23:21]	<ChackJadson>	Per Grunny [23:21]	 	I support. [23:21]	<Toprawa>	I also support the Archiving award [23:21]	 	What would those awards look like though? [23:21]	<Toprawa>	no idea [23:21]	<ChackJadson>	Put someone on it :P [23:21]	 	(Jang is away now, and he supports all discussion items) [23:21]	<ChackJadson>	Wait [23:21]	<Toprawa>	someone with artistic imaging ability would have to create it [23:22]	<ChackJadson>	I mean, have someone design it [23:22]	 	Tranner: Any opinion? [23:22]	<Toprawa>	ideally that would be discussed in the CT [23:22]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Meh. [23:22]	<ChackJadson>	Not "put someone's face on it" [23:22]	<GrandMoffTranner>	I don't care if we have awards or not, really. [23:22]	 	party pooper [23:22]	 	:P [23:22]	 	:P [23:22]	<Toprawa>	haha [23:23]	 	Very well. We have enough support for both awards. :P [23:23]	<GrandMoffTranner>	I just don't see the need, honestly. But if you guys want them, fine with me. [23:23]	 	:) [23:23]	 	Agreed to create awards for most voting and archiving, and agreed to discuss details in a CT. [23:23]	 	Implementing a way to strike items from the meeting agenda on the meeting page itself. Believe it or not, it can sometimes be hard to achieve a consensus of four ACs via IRC. 1358 (Talk)23:47, December 31, 2010 (UTC) [23:23]	<ChackJadson>	!youdoit [23:23]	<ChackJadson>	Toprawa should do it :P [23:23]	 	No Nuku here, Chack. :P [23:23]	<ChackJadson>	;) [23:24]	 	I support the idea ( as proposer) ;) [23:24]	 	as do all absentees [23:24]	<ChackJadson>	Would this be as a separate section or under the item or what? [23:24]	<Toprawa>	that's a good question [23:25]	 	Perhaps like... [23:25]	<Toprawa>	do we want to list it under the article itself, or in a section in the Comments? [23:25]	 	*example - update needed. --user1 [23:25]	 	**Fixed. --user2 [23:25]	 	*** ~ [23:26]	 	I support having it under the item, but we could remove the votes and just state it's been struck per consensus. [23:26]	 	(remove them after successful vote9 [23:26]	<Toprawa>	we could probably create a little "Vote to remove from meeting (AC vote only)" thing and vote under that [23:26]	<Toprawa>	just for clarification [23:26]	<ChackJadson>	Tope and Xd's ideas combined sound good [23:26]	<Toprawa>	like we do for removing noms [23:26]	<ChackJadson>	Yeah [23:26]	<Toprawa>	I like that too [23:26]	 	I suggest we do it with wikimarkup, like ”'header”' [23:27]	 	it clogs up the Toc otherwise. [23:27]	<Toprawa>	agreed [23:27]	 	...opinions? :P [23:27]	<ChackJadson>	For [23:28]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Sure. [23:28]	 	*example - update needed. --user1 [23:28]	 	**Fixed. --user2 [23:28]	 	***”'Vote to remove...”' [23:28]	 	**** ~ [23:28]	 	like that? [23:29]	<Toprawa>	or ***Vote to remove [23:29]	<Toprawa>	*** ~ [23:29]	<Toprawa>	doesn't really matter to me [23:29]	 	Yeah. Agreed. [23:29]	 	Grunny? [23:29]	 	We can try that, and if it doesn't look good and we come up with something better, we can always change [23:29]	<Toprawa>	true [23:29]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Per Grunny. [23:30]	 	But by all means it's easier via IRC so be online a lot. :P [23:30]	<Toprawa>	we should list this as a procedural thing on the AC checklist page as welll [23:30]	 	Sounds good. [23:31]	 	So, agreed to implement a way to strike items from the meeting agenda on the meeting page. [23:31]	 	Does anyone have something else to discuss? [23:31]	<Toprawa>	not I [23:31]	 	nor I [23:31]	<ChackJadson>	Not me [23:31]	* ecks	has not [23:31]	<Toprawa>	Thanks to everyone for coming and leaving notes. [23:31]	<ChackJadson>	Ok, later guys [23:31]	 	Jang has informed me that he volunteers for the paperwork. [23:32]	<Toprawa>	later [23:32]	|<--	ChackJadson has left irc.freenode.com (Quit: GO RAVENS!) [23:32]	 	Later Chack. [23:32]	<Toprawa>	thanks, Jang [23:32]	 	Meeting Thirty-One is hereby adjourned.