Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Ballad of Cham Syndulla


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Ballad of Cham Syndulla

 * Nominated by:  CC7567  (talk) 20:10, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: TCW, of course.  CC7567  (talk) 20:10, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

(3 ACs/4 Users/7 Total)
Support
 * 1)  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi beacon ) 20:57, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Master JonathanJedi Council Chambers 21:37, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) Come on, what's better than a Twi'lek rap. I mean, other that PIE of course. Kilson Likes PIE 01:58, 3 May 09 (UTC)
 * 4) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 06:21, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) This is not a requirement, but I do request a sentence or two on the rhyme, meter, and structure in the BtS.  Graestan ( Talk ) 17:47, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 18:10, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 7)  Grunny  ( Talk ) 03:04, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) From the Council Chambers:
 * 2) * Just one objection: You have the date listed as 22 BBY and sourced to the film novelization, however that novel only dates the Battle of Christophsis and the Battle of Teth and says nothing about these events. For all we know, the calendar could have rolled over to a new year. Until Lucasfilm solves this mess with an official timeline, I don't think it is possible to put a date on this unless you can find an official source that specifically dates these events. Otherwise, good job! Master JonathanJedi Council Chambers 20:34, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) **It seems to have been applied to all of the events of the series. I could kick myself for saying this, but I think that it's the best we have to go off of; it's better than nothing. Thanks as well.  CC7567  (talk) 20:51, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) ***That may be so, but unless it is specifically stated in an official source, it's fanon. In fact, the Timeline of the Clone Wars article got deleted over these exact fanon dates. I still feel that you should remove the date and possibly add TCWRetcon, but I'd like to get the opinion of an AC or Inq on this. Master JonathanJedi Council Chambers 21:11, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) ****What would you recommend doing? Since all of the events need to be consistent, would you recommend adding "circa" to the dates, or simply removing them altogether?  CC7567  (talk) 21:24, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) *****Now that you mention it, "circa" would probably be the best solution. Put that in, and I'll strike. Master JonathanJedi Council Chambers 21:30, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) ******Addressed, thanks.  CC7567  (talk) 21:32, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) The Grand Master
 * 9) * You use "formed" twice in the same sentence in the intro, see if you can change one of these or reword the sentence.
 * 10) **Addressed.
 * 11) * You say that they "surrender and retreat", but then keep fighting. Did they actually surrender, or just temporarily give up and go into hiding? Please clear this up.
 * 12) **Was confused for this; Syndulla actually said that they were "forced to surrender" in the episode, but apparently Filoni and the guys writing the scripts for TCW didn't realize that it implies that the freedom fighters would also be captured if they surrendered.
 * 13) *Nice work. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi beacon ) 20:43, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 14) **Thank youz.  CC7567  (talk) 20:51, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 15) You should mention in the origins section that the resistance lost a lot of men at Cazne. Other than that, seems good. And you beat me to the aricle. :) Kilson Likes PIE 00:59, 3 May 09 (UTC)
 * 16) *Addressed. :P  CC7567  (talk) 01:56, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 17) Soresu
 * 18) * We seem to be italizising the names of IU songs and ballads, and I think this should follow the precedent. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 11:19, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 19) **Addressed.  CC7567  (talk) 17:34, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * Hopefully the article isn't too descriptive. Also, the word length is over 250 without the "Lyrics" section.  CC7567  (talk) 20:10, 2 May 2009 (UTC)