User talk:Toprawa and Ralltiir

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Re: Vacation
I have not forgotten about this one, Tope. Rest assured, my vacation does not mean that I'll simply let the nomination sit idle on the GAN page. I'll be monitoring it and my FA nominations, as well; I just won't be able to contribute much beyond that. Still, thanks for the heads-up :) QuiGonJinn  (Talk) 19:33, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Date
The Xim map on page 117 has a notation in the bottom right stating "25,102 to 25,096 BBY - War with the Hutts". The old 21,105 date seems to have been an approximation with the Battle of Ko Vari, which in all articles is an unsourced date, and most references are even labeled "circa". The First Battle of Vontor is confirmed on the next page as being in 25,100, which leaves nothing concrete for 25,105, and does give a reference for 25,102 for the start of the war. The 25,096 date is a little nutty considering Xim's been a prisoner for four years at that point. But I'm not messing with that, yet.  DD97 Which bear is best? 07:39, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Question
Maybe a stupid question, but could you also edit info from an author who have done other work then Star Wars? i just want to know ;) --Station7 20:16, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:33, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * An author writes more stories then Star Wars stories. Should I edit info, from an author, if he/she writes other stories then Star Wras stories.--Station7 20:36, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * You could list the info, though be aware that Wookieepedia's Sourcing policy states that "it is typically Wookieepedia's policy to not include a full biography on this site. That is usually best left to sites like Wikipedia." Meaning don't go overboard with it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:38, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I will keep it in the lines.--Station7 20:40, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * If I may butt in here, that sentence was included in the very first revision of WP:S, dated March 2, 2007. That was subsequently amended by Forum:CT Archive/Real-world biographies, which passed a little under two months later. That CT decided that we would include full bios, but WP:S was never updated for some reason.  Master Jonathan New Jedi Order.svg ( Jedi Council Chambers ) 20:46, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't care. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:48, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ozzik Stum
Hi. I was wondering why you deleted Ozzik Stum, a redirect I created. I don't see how it's unnecessary. Could you please tell me why it doesn't need to exist? San Saber 22:20, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Contesting my ban
While my ban has ended I would like to contest the grounds on which I was banned. Please explain the situation and then I will retort. Rac Ward

Luca
Are you planning on working on his article? Because I was, and if you are, I'll step aside.&mdash; 01:13, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope, feel free to take it. :) Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:15, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. The image you uploaded will prove useful, so thanks. :)&mdash; 01:36, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Good deal. Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:38, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Morseerians
The UAA says as follows: "Despite having lived on the fringes of galactic civilization for nearly twelve thousand years..." I added the information to 12,000 BBY in the hopes of getting it supplemented by whatever source qualifies the date to be on the Morseerian Featured Article, my library is pretty sparse on a lot of the sources listed there. If it needs further immediate support, I'll get with SavageBob to find out what his source is for the date.  DD97 Which bear is best? 19:26, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, it's the same dating issue I mentioned before, WotC books are anywhere between 32 BBY and 25 ABY. You want I should put a source tag on the date in the Morseerian article and see if I can get the source from someone that way?  DD97 Which bear is best? 19:37, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * None at all.  DD97 Which bear is best? 19:55, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, guys. The Morseerian article currently says "some 12,000 years before the Battle of Yavin." This is like saying "c. 12,000 BBY", and despite the ambiguity of the WOTC books' time references, I'd say that 50 years is negligible when we're talking thousands of years. Thus, I don't think the Morseerian article needs to be changed. ~ SavageBob 23:09, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re:GAN
Sorry, I didn't noticed this rule. When I last checked, it was applyed only to FAN. Darth Morrt 22:43, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Wookieepedia Manual of Style problem
Hello, while reading the Manual of Style today, I noticed a grammatical error. However, when I tried to fix it, I found out that I do not have permission to edit that page. Could you correct the error? Here is the error: "===Human and other sentient species=== In all sections of in-universe articles, the words "Human" and "Near-Human" should be capitalized, just as the name of any other sentient species (Twi'lek, Rodian, Wookiee) in the Star Wars universe would be. The word "humanoid," however, should not be capitalized.
 * → See Forum:CT Archive/Capitalization of Human, and Forum:CT Archive/Capitalizing "human" -- some more details

Please note that semi-sentient or nonsentient creature names must not be in capitals unless dictated otherwise by canon. Hence, writing "Rancor" instead of "rancor" is agrammatical. As much as we don't capitalize "Dog" or "Cat" in real-life, we shouldn't capitalize fictional creature names."

In the second sentence, instead of reading "humanoid,", it should say "humanoid",. Also, this may seem nitpicky, but...when I read the last sentence, it counfused me. I thought that there was a grammatical problem regarding possesives. Upon reading it again, I guess that it techincally works, but to avoid further confusion, could you rewrite the sentence as "As much as we don't capitalize "Dog" or "Cat" in real-life, we shouldn't capitalize the names of fictional creatures."?

Thanks,WIERDGREENMAN 18:47, November 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, I cannot change these things for you. This is the reason this page is fully-protected, to prevent people from just changing the wording any time as they see fit. The Manual of Style is an official policy page. If an error or mistake exists, it needs to be amended through formal Consensus track procedure. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:19, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Galaxy 11
Yeah, you're right, it's actually a poster from Galaxy 9. Sorry about that. Here's what it says about the Executor: "Intimidation is a powerful weapon, and few vessels are more intimidating than a Super Star Destroyer. At 8,000 meters&mdash;five times the length of a standard Star Destroyer&mdash;possessing thousands of weapons and carrying legions of starfighters and stormtroopers, they are the most fearsome components in the Imperial armada, short of the Death Stars. Built and presented to Darth Vader following the Battle of Yavin, expressly for hunting Rebels, the Executor is featured prominently in Shadows. Ironically, it figures in Luke's escape, and leads to Xizor's defeat. Later, the vessel is destroyed during the Battle of Endor." Xicer9 ( Combadge) 04:03, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Sinube's cane
Hey Tope,

No discussion whatsoever, it was just changed at the user's whim. I noticed it the other day but I was on my phone and preoccupied so I ended up forgetting to revert the change. If you want to put it back and issue a warning of some sort (if you deem it necessary) I am okay with that. —Tommy 9281 11:46, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Something interesting...
Hey, you gonna be around IRC later? I've come across something interesting that I want to share with you. —Tommy 9281 12:22, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

GAN objections
If I were to strike all my objections on a review, must I actually support the nomination, or is it kinda implied? MasterFred (Whatever) 21:54, November 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * One is not required to vote on a nomination, nor is a support vote ever implied. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:56, November 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! MasterFred Commerce Guild.svg(Whatever) 21:59, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

New article
Hi Toprawa! In your opinion, does Unidentified stormtrooper squad (Tantive IV) deserve its own article? My only sources of these trooper being a squad are the script of ANH, which isn't really canon, and the ANH novel, which is obscure. Darth Morrt 03:21, December 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * I really can't say without further information, because I don't know what information is in all of the listed sources. My first instinct is no, it probably does not, but it deserves to be researched. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:59, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Palmer
Oops, sorry; didn't catch that. :P I'll archive the nomination in a minute, though you're welcome to do so (and please do so) if I forget.  CC7567  (talk) 05:48, December 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry about not getting around to archiving it; I was busy with something else, and it slipped my mind...like I thought it would. :/ See you on IRC some time.  CC7567  (talk) 06:06, December 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey Tope. I (literally) just found that there's a page in the Star Wars: The Clone Wars Comic UK 6.14 issue that's dedicated to the wampa. I'm not sure if there's any new info, but I've uploaded the comic page here so that you can take a look on it; it was published some time in November according to a StarWars.com article, so apologies if I accidentally misplaced it in the Sources list. If you have any questions, you can pop me a talk page message or ask me when I'm next on IRC, which will hopefully be soon. Hope that helps.  CC7567  (talk) 06:26, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Re:update tag
Sorry, I actually wasn't aware that the article had to be reevaluated by the Inqs first, but thanks for telling me that. And as for images and quotes, there are places where I found a space for quotes but also some where I did not, and therefore will not place any. For the images, there are a few places where there are images of other related oeple that can be replaced with quality images of Kota, the character in question. Then I will wait until the tag is removed and most likely discuss changes to the article with him, since he desrves a lot of credit for writing this article. Cheers.-- ID-21 Dolphin  (Talk) 03:22, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Kix
Hello sir,

I don't know if you realize this, but I have been changing his first quotation for a long while. There is part of the sentence that is missing. I would like you and everyone else to quit changing my frickin changes. Or, I advise you to watch the episode to confirm my objection, and to prove that I'm right about this and you're not. I'm really not trying to sound rude (and I know I failed spectacularly) but I'm sick and tired of people changing it.

Thank you, Natalie Crescent


 * Well, sir I have not violated the rule. I have only made the change twice today, but it has been changed back to it's original format. Okay, I'm very new here, and I'm grateful you informed me of the rule before I changed it again. So, where do I talk about changing the page and keeping it that way? Because I really don't like seeing incomplete quotations anywhere. Thank you for your help.

Natalie Crescent


 * Okay, I understand. I've upset you. I'm stupid, and since my membership I have not yet bothered to read the Wookieepedian manual or whatever it's called. I appreciate this, and I know you're not trying to be rude, or mean, you're just trying to do your job as Administrator. If you're gonna start yelling at me through another comment with a rule link in it please proceed. I appreciate anything else you might have to say.

Natalie Crescent

Need an Inq opinion
Hey Tope. I'm looking for the opinion of a few Inqs on one of my objections to the Wedge FAN. and I disagree on whether Quote or Dialogue should be used for this quote. As neither Havac nor I are Inqs, it would be helpful to obtain the opinion of a few Inqs on this matter. Your input would be appreciated, and I've also asked Tommy and Grunny to weigh in on the matter. Thanks.  Master Jonathan  ( Jedi Council Chambers ) 18:46, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem, MJ. The MOS clearly states and provides an example of two-speaker quotes utilizing the Quote template, which was originally established for two speakers in a CT forum vote of which Havac was even a willing supporter. :) It's no secret among some longer established Wookieepedians that Havac will have varying degrees of pouting hissy fits if he doesn't get to format articles exactly his way, so my best recommendation to you is not to engage in a protracted debate with him, because the majority of the time it will only make him more stubborn and it gets no one anywhere. Clarify the rule for him and leave it up to him to make the change. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:56, December 10, 2010 (UTC)