Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Y'bith


 * ''The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a featured article nomination that was successful. Please do not modify it.

Y'bith

 * Nominated by: Thefourdotelipsis 09:16, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Another WTS nom.

(5 Inqs/0 Users/5 Total)
Support
 * 1)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  13:31, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Good show.-- —Tommy9281 [[Image:Red lightsaber.png|20px]] ( Peace is a lie ) 15:03, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Toprawa and Ralltiir 06:00, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 4)  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 03:27, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) --  Darth Culator  (Talk) 03:33, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) From the Cantina of Chack Jadson:
 * 2) * "eventually inadvertently". Please rephrase this.
 * 3) **Axed the "eventually"
 * 4) * You use "while" and "claim" in consecutive sentences in History. Minor things, but they disrupt the flow.
 * 5) **I've got rid of the second "while," but since the second claim is "claimed," I don't think it's quite as jarring...but if you still think it needs tweaking, I'm more than happy to oblige.
 * 6) *Very nice overall.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 13:01, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) **Thanks. Thefourdotelipsis 06:49, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) What's the Pasta Bowl? of Fiolli:
 * 9) *A few quickies:
 * 10) ** The intro states: "Developing their own culture, the Y'bith were never fully embraced by the Bith, who claimed that the volatile biochemistry of the subspecies made them violent and aggressive." It is stated in B&A as if it was fact rather than a claim. Which one is correct? Also, the BtS states: "In order to further differentiate the Y'bith from the Bith, Burger wrote them as violent and tempromental beings, far removed from what he perceived as pacifist tendencies in the Bith."
 * 11) ***Yes, the Bith used it as an excuse to not associate with them.
 * 12) **** Okay, so if it is an excuse, is it still fact that they were volatile? If so, the intro should reflect this fact and not merely an opinion since the B&A has it as a fact. The History section kind of compromises, so it is fine.  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 18:28, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 13) *****The entry itself doesn't specify either way, but the thing that got me was the authorial intent; The author intended it to be fact, his wording wasn't changed in that part (if memory serves) and since that doesn't clash with what's established, that's pretty much what it is. Thefourdotelipsis 02:08, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) ****** I admittedly would prefer the language to be consistent throughout, however. I no longer hold any objection to whether or not it is fact. Thank you for explaining that part, 4dot.  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 15:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 15) *******Resolved via IRC discussion.  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 03:11, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 16) ** "Nevertheless, the Y'bith strove to be accepted by the galactic community as a whole, and their city of New Nozho became a notable trade port." The last clause isn't mentioned or paraphrased anywhere else in the article.
 * 17) ***Whoops. Added.
 * 18) **"In the wake of the devastating attack, the survivors, dubbed "Y'bith", or, in Galactic Basic Standard, "Ghost Bith," lived in hermetically sealed cities that had been built in the ruins of Nozho." The The Essential Guide to Alien Species states that survivors of the civil war lived in dome cities. Might be useful to have this mentioned.
 * 19) ***That's interesting, since the DB entry seems to imply that the domes were destroyed. I'll look into that.
 * 20) **** Perhaps the new domes were built as the "hermetically sealed cities" that you speak of.  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 18:28, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 21) ***** I checked some more things and could not find a specific link between the two, but I do not have all the sources you do regarding the Y'bith. Perhaps something is floating out there somewhere.  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 15:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 22) ******I've tweaked this with a mention of the domes. Thefourdotelipsis 08:25, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 23) ** "Later, on both Nar Shaddaa and Coruscant, they aided in the rebuilding efforts in the wake of the Yuuzhan Vong War." I think I understand why this is here, but shouldn't it be at least alluded to in the History section, plausibly with a mention of the notability of New Nozho?
 * 24) ***I felt that those kind of things, aiding with the war efforts and all that, were kinda less relevant to the Y'bith as a people, and besides, I didn't want to keep repeating information too much.
 * 25) ****Fair enough.  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 18:28, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 26) *Nice work!  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 03:46, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 27) **Thanks for the review. Thefourdotelipsis 01:59, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 28) ***Not a problem.  Master Aban Fiolli  {Alpheridies University ComNet} 18:28, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 29) Toprawa:
 * 30) * A minor thing, but I would like to see some kind of mention in the Society and culture section that they shared the Bith language with the Bith. Toprawa and Ralltiir 00:14, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 31) **Thank God you mentioned that, because the mention in the infobox is a mistake. There's nothing, at least that I can find, in the DB entry that stipulates the language, other than the fact that "Y'bith" is Bithese for Ghost Bith...which doesn't qualify. The mention in the infobox has been axed. Thefourdotelipsis 02:08, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 32) ***Well, good. ;) Toprawa and Ralltiir 06:00, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

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