Talk:Antares Draco

This guy is awsome! Why does he look so mad? Do we have any more images of him? Are you gonna post them? That sucks. That would work if I could find a freaking book store that sold it! Borders and Barnes and Noble. But their 45 miles away! Oh well I guess I'll buy it off of ebay You're right this really has NOTHING to do with Draco
 * Please keep opinions off of talk pages. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:21, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Theres been afew in the recent comics but none that are particuly clear Jedi Dude 14:27, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
 * There's been only two good ones. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:31, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
 * No. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:40, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * You should just buy the comic. -- Ozzel 19:05, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Plus, I'm not good at uploading pictures. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:12, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, every bookstore that I've been to sells them... What bookstores are near you? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:36, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, the ones near me both had the comics. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 15:23, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * It's probably best not to continue this here. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 21:54, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Then why did you have to say something else? Now, let this post end it. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:03, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Wedge speculation
Is all the speculation really needed? We can go to a discussion forum if we want rumors. And just for the record, I'm finding it hard to find a similarity between Draco and Wedge. Their bottom lips look somewhat similar, but that's where the similarities end for me. Cull Tremayne 19:34, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * PS, If the Fel dynasty is indeed descended from the Fels we know and love, Wedge isn't an ancestor - since the line comes from his sister. Blood relative, yes. Ancestor... no. QuentinGeorge 19:56, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well technically, Wedge would still be an ancestor, just in-directly. Darth Abeonis Sith Council (Sith Campaign) 20:02, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I stripped it down some; if consensus thinks it ought to outright vanish, I'd have no objection. jSarek 21:49, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

* clears throat*

Okay, as the user who added in the material, let me explain my logic in doing so. The idea wasn't to open speculation or discussion here at Wookiee, but simply to report the fan theories as being relevant to the character. These sorts of questions represents a lot of Draco's percieved "identity" right now, so if people come to Wiki looking for answers to what they've heard about him, it makes sense (to me at least) to supply them with a clear, neutral summary of the POVs that can help them make their own minds up. Compare the section on Mara Jade's parentage, for instance.

A record of fan discussion is a different thing from fan discussion itself: it's not what every fan will be interested in, of course, but it is IMHO part of what a wiki page like this should provide.

No? I'm interested to know what other people think about this.... --McEwok 23:15, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * So if I came up with a theory on Palpatine being related to Darth Bane and I got a ton of people to agree with me, I could post that? I don't think so. The same goes for this. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:44, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Of course you could. If there was a popular fan-theory about Palpatine being related to Bane, it would be relevant to to Palpatine, as are the theories about his appearance and name, discussed at Palpatine and Palpatine.
 * I want to point out, also, that the theories about Draco being possibly related to these other characters are not my own.
 * 1.) I'm among those who sees similarities between Antares and Anakin Solo, certainly, but I doubt I was the first to think this, and I'm not going around trying to persuade other people to share this POV.
 * 2.) The Wedge resemblance was something that was pointed out by someone else in a TF.N discussion thread yesterday, which I hadn't really considered before.
 * I can see the logic of both theories, but I can also see that they may be wrong: their inclusion is due simply to the fact that they're current. If your hypothetical "I came up with a theory... and I got a ton of people to agree with me" was an attempt to represent what you think my role here is, then you're misunderstanding totally. They're not my theories, and there's no insinuation that either idea is (or "should be") true, merely an observation that they're extant.
 * Again, I refer you to Mara_Jade_Skywalker for an analogy. --McEwok 01:04, 17 November 2006 (UTC)


 * You missed my point. Just because some people thought about it does not mean we include it in the article. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 01:55, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No, I didn't miss your point. I dealt with it, first taking the specific example you raised: If there was a popular fan-theory about Palpatine being related to Bane, it would be relevant to to Palpatine, as are the theories about his appearance and name, discussed at Palpatine and Palpatine.
 * And I followed this up by using an example of my own, one which I'd already cited before you even asked the question: Again, I refer you to Mara_Jade_Skywalker for an analogy.
 * To answer again, directly: the information on fan theories is relevant to the character, and I accordingly believe it should stay, in nPOV summary form, on the page. --McEwok 03:37, 17 November 2006 (UTC)


 * No. Fan theories do not deserve a place in "Behind the scenes" unless they are supported by canon somehow. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 12:09, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * "Supported by canon" is very much a subjective POV. The theories aren't plucked out of thin air, but are based on the observation of similarities&mdash;a matter of suggestion rather than certainty, yes, but based directly and entirely on the analysis of canon. As such, they therefore deserve inclusion. Also, refering to the theories explains the way the character is being percieved/discussed in online contexts, which seems fairly relevant to the purpose of this page.
 * Anyone else want to add their POV on this? --McEwok 15:05, 17 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Just because two people look similar does not mean we can just put something in the "Behind the scenes" section, unless a canon source says something like "Possibly a descandant of Wedge Antilles, Draco..." Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:50, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * But if two people look similar, and fans have noted that similarity and used it as the basis for thoughts about their relationship, we can report that speculation in "Behind the scenes". I've already cited comparable examples of similar stuff on other pages. --McEwok 02:44, 18 November 2006 (UTC)


 * So if I looked like a famous actor, could I go around saying I might be related to such an actor? No. The same goes here. I don't care what other articles have; that type of fan speculation should be removed from Wookieepedia. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 15:10, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * That's not an accurate analogy, and I'm sure you must realise the difference. It's about reporting the theory. The real-world equivalent would be if there was a widespread theory, right or wrong, about someone being secretly related to a member of the British royal family. Oh, wait.... --McEwok 16:05, 18 November 2006 (UTC)


 * "reporting the theory"? That's no reason to put it in the article. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:06, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Why not? --McEwok 13:56, 19 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Because it's fan speculation, and a slight miswording could make it fanon. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 14:18, 19 November 2006 (UTC)