Talk:Ahsoka Tano/Archive2

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Up to date
I'm afraid that we have been so busy dscussing images that Ahsoka's exploits past the season two premiere have been a little neglected. ok, a lot neglected. ok, completely left out. could someone update it, please? i'm afraid that, whilst i have the skill, i lack the time to source it all. thanks!66.42.173.161 12:46, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks to whomever updated her article, however, you forgot her season two finale contributions. again, i apologize that i cannot do it myself.66.42.173.161 16:15, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Suggestion for article
hmmm... anakin a knight not a master in episode three... unknown fate of Ahsoka Tano... anakin being ahsoka's master... i'd say her training was never completed. at least, not by anakin. we should put in the BTS section or something something like this

Due to the fact that Anakin was her master, and her fate unknown, as well as the fact that Anakin was not a Jedi Master in Revenge of the Sith, this denotes that Anakin never fully trained Ahsoka.
 * You don't need to be a Jedi Master to take a Padawan. Obi Wan was a Jedi Knight for a day before the Council decided to give him Anakin as a Padawan. Obi Wan eventually became a Master while training Anakin, so either the rules are flexible, taken on a case-by-case basis or taking a Padawan is an effective step (one of several different routes) towards becoming a Master.

Just a suggestion...66.42.173.161 16:12, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * That would be speculation, so no. --Imperialles 16:15, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Something i don't understand is why do we choose not to make some very safe assumptions based off of G-canon information. I believe this assumption is correct. if i wouldn't be blocked, i would fix it myself.Gnost-Dural 16:36, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * We do not know anything about Ahsoka's fate, we cannot add speculation into articles, and furthermore please read the template AhsokaTalk on top of the talk page.  JangFett  (Talk) 16:43, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I always thought that you had to train a padawan in order to be a master. that's why ki-adi-mundi was a knight. but i see your POV, i was just suggesting that we put something suggesting that anakin may not have trained her fully. dropping conversation. -bay doors on cruiser open, and conversation gets sucked out into space-Gnost-Dural 17:43, June 21, 2010 (UTC) Episode 3 of wich season?85.246.193.193 16:55, December 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * Try not to revive old conversations in the future; however, I guess they are referring to Revenge of the Sith rather than a TCW episode. 1358  (Talk)  16:57, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Face stripes
The Clone Wars Character Encyclopedia states that Ahsoka's facial striping are actually tattoos. Yet another level of strangeness for her genetic variation. Should this be put in the article, even if just in Behind the Scenes? --The Great and Grand Count Mall! 20:25, June 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * The TCW character encyclopedia contradicted a lot of canon. It would be best not to add anything right now until another source clarifies it. As far as I know, they are not tattoos.  JangFett  (Talk) 21:58, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Art of the Clone Wars
The Art of Star Wars: The Clone Wars has early concept art as well as a picture of her meeting Plo Koon as a toddler. Should these put on the page. The concept art sure should.--The Great and Grand Count Mall! 17:01, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * That concept art could fit within the behind the scenes section.  JangFett  (Talk) 17:05, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think those would be a great addition to the page. If someone has them, you would be more than welcome to expand the Behind the scenes section.--Demos Traxen 17:23, July 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Do it. VhettSkirata Mando'ade  18:14, July 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll see what I can do. But no go with meet'n'greet thing? --The Great and Grand Count Mall! 22:59, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Which is preferred? --The Great and Grand Count Mall! 23:19, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for uploading those. I'll be sure to use both in my workbench. As for the Ahsoka article, either one is fine.  JangFett  (Talk) 23:21, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * If there's room in the section, which there seems to be, the "meet n' greet" concept art could be useful too, since it plays into her history with the Jedi Order.--Demos Traxen 04:12, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * However, unless the concept art is finalized and appears in canon, it's not canon. But, yes, that image could be in the bts.  JangFett  (Talk) 04:19, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I uploaded the picture for when we want to use it. --The Great and Grand Count Mall! 01:15, October 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * There's a good picture of her Season 3 appearance at Starwars.com. The article's called "Drawing Ahsoka Tano's New Look" if anyone's interested. 142.26.194.190 15:45, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Boba
Can someone add the boba part i would do it myself but there is a semi protection or can someone get rid of the protection for other people can add it.Cadbanekiller 22:27, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Incomplete Article
Since season two is over,the remaining episodes need to be added to the article. After Lightsaber Lost it pretty much drops off. Any opposition?DarthSnips95 01:21, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm a bit late, but yes, you are free to add new information to the article. :-) -- 1358  (Talk) 19:37, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * You do not need to ask for permission to add information into articles. Anyone could edit Wookieepedia, although vandalism and any other nonsense added into an article will be reverted.  JangFett  (Talk) 20:54, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

I wasn't asking,if I could. I can't. My computer system crashes if I try to edit an article. All I was saying is that the article should be completed.DarthSnips95 22:19, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Past Tense
Again as I pointed out in another article in this wiki, why is everything being written in the past tense, clearly the Star Wars Universe is on going especially with characters like Ahsoka Tano, Can someone please look at these articles and provide a little bit of cleanup. 96.243.189.48 05:15, September 12, 2010 (UTC) Surely the fact that everything Star Wars starts "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.." means everything that happens is past tense and should be written as so? 86.136.254.211 07:01, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Please read my response on the Talk:Shili page.  OLIOSTER  (talk) 05:17, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Real age of Ahsoka Tano at the beginning of the Clone Wars?
I have a question with regards to Ahsoka’s age as given in the ‘Behind the scenes’ section of this article. The section states that George Lucas introduced her as an eleven-year-old girl, whereas some books and the StarWars.com Databank gives her as being fourteen years old when she was assigned as Anakin Skywalker’s Padawan. The information in the books (fourteen) seems to be accepted as her given age. Is this correct?

However, I looked at the StarWars.com Databank, and it does not in fact give Ahsoka’s age. It states that “she graduated to Padawan at an early age”. In the Clone Wars movie, Anakin accuses her of not being old enough to be a Padawan to which she replies that she may not be, but that Master Yoda thinks her old enough for the promotion (she also admits later in the monastery that she is trying to prove that she is not too young to be promoted to the rank of Padawan). Furthermore, in the Wookieepedia article on Obi-Wan Kenobi, it states that “Younglings who weren’t selected to be Padawans by the age of thirteen would be shifted into one of the divisions of the Jedi Service Corps”.

Basically, my question is this: Ahsoka couldn’t be fourteen when she became Anakin’s apprentice – she would already have been send to the Corps; also, if I understand correctly, what George Lucas says about a character, is accepted as canon in the Star Wars Universe (since they are his characters), regardless of what variations may appear from time to time in other media. Also as pointed out, the Databank gives no age for her, but does imply that she was younger than most Padawans. 155.240.161.3 14:06, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Could Wookieepedia please clarify this matter for me? Thanks.
 * Hey! Check out Anakin's databank entry --- it's actually that, not Ahsoka's entry, that gives her age as fourteen when she is apprenticed to Skyguy. As far as the Obi-Wan discrepancy goes, I guess we can assume that times changed? Menkooroo 07:20, September 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you, I appreciate it! 155.240.161.3 14:06, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, Menkooroo...  JangFett  (Talk) 15:01, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify, it was stated in Jedi Apprentice: The Dark Rival that the "you must be chosen to be a padawan by age 13 or else go to the Agricorps" rule was made. It was important then but it seems to be phased out. Still, if it's in the databank it goes in the article, young readers novel probably wasn't considered when they wrote the databank entry.  Holocron Greatholocron.jpg (Complain) 10:06, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Problem
I have a problem with the sentence "Tano was a talented student and was promoted to the rank of Padawan earlier than normal by Master Yoda." It says next to the sentence that there's no source but it's established in The Dark Rival that padawans have to be selected before the age of thirteen. Is there some sort of retcon that changes this or should the sentence be removed or at least changed?  Holocron  (Complain) 10:15, October 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * That info's from Ahsoka's databank entry. Not sure why it was unsourced, but I've sourced it. As far as inconsistencies between The Clone Wars and other canon, we pretty much just have to wait until TCW finishes before things start getting ironed out. Menkooroo 12:52, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Image
Shouldn't we use the updated Season Three image?




 * You may. -- Doctor Kermit ( Complain. ) 03:22, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * The images of the new look we've gotten so far aren't all that great. I'd vote we wait until an episode with the new costume airs and then get a decent screengrab then. ~ SavageBob 03:23, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think I should, because by looking at the Episode Guide IMage for Heroes on Both Sides, she looks younger than the image above. The way I see it, the image should be as later on in their life as possible. Scrayer 07:31, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think these two Ahsokas are the same model in different mood. I doubt they have a 3.0 Ahsoka. The picture above is most likely from the first act of the next episode. Darth Morrt 10:30, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * You don't change the infobox image on a major character like Ahsoka without putting it to a talk page vote first. -  JMAS  Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 13:23, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * You're right, and the pictures a bit too long. I think a different, square snapshot should be taken from and upcoming episode. 219.89.45.151 01:58, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, that image is perfect dimensions for an infobox image, as is the current image. -  JMAS  Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 03:57, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * I support changing it. --The Great and Grand Count Mall! 07:03, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Her montrals have grown out some and the character model now features a different ratio in pelvis to waist width,indicating that she is maturing.Sochwa 15:47, November 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is correct. This is more updated, and we should change the image. If we don't agree with this image, shouldn't another be posted? Scrayer 00:10, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

New episode information
On the episode guide, the episode and Starwars.com all show images of Ahsoka's new Shoto. This article may benifit with a picture and differentiation from the main lightsaber. Plus on her clone card he height has increased from 1.61m to 1.70 meters, should that be included in the charecter info and replace the old height? User:Evil-Tree 17:11, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * When did she start carrying a shoto? I thought I saw a second hilt on her belt during Experiencing Politics... But she only turned over one blade in The Academy.--108.0.255.232 03:56, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * As crazy as this sound, (incidently the episode with the Shoto is called Heroes on Both Sides) that episode occurs sometime AFTER The Academy. Which would also explain her radical change in wardrobe. Drsdino 04:02, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Back on topic should we change the height in the description box because of new information on her clone card? User:Evil-Tree 22:41, November 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * We should. Scrayer 00:11, December 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Do not remove information that is sourced, however.  JangFett  (Talk) 21:54, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Possible addition to Personality and traits section
If I may make a suggestion for a possible update to the 'Personality and Traits' section of this character.

Ahsoka's 'Personality and Traits' features entries on her friendship with Captain Rex, and on how she adores her master, but it doesn't feature any more information on her other friendships, such as with Chuchi and Bariss. And would it be possible to add something about her relationship with Lux Bonteri as well? I know it is mentioned in the entry about 'Experiancing Politics' and on Lux's page as well, but perhaps this is something which should also feature in this section of Ahsoka's page?

She does read as a bit flat by only refering to her relationship with Anakin, and her friendship with Rex in 'Personality and Traits'.

Thank you 155.240.161.3 07:44, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Well, it's no proof that she as any relationship with Lux, or even Rex, other than just plain friendship.


 * But she did share a visible relationship with Kidd Kareen in the comics, even to she stage they almost kissed User:Evil-Tree 22:51, December 03, 2010 (UTC)

Change in info-box pic
Hey, I have a good pic to change as Ahsoka's "profile picture" and its more updated. someone tell me what you think and if ya'll do decide to change it then please do it for me cuz i have NO idea how to. heres the pic:
 * The image you uploaded was deleted because you failed to follow the instructions given on the upload page. 1358  (Talk)  20:44, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Removed Post, take 2
Recently, i posted something on here about her new appearance. I was the first one to post such a thing (You have to get up pretty early in the morning to stop me) and thought i had done a good deed. I check back a little while late, bada bing, bada boom, its gone. (isn't it against the rules to delete posts? you know, keep them for posterity's sake?) So i make a post complaining, and i check back today, and what do i notice? gone like the hair on uncle bernie's head. I would like to know why someone keeps ILEGALLY removing my posts? also, i would like to know who did it.69.61.179.241 14:14, November 29, 2010 (UTC) JangFett removed it. It was the post about Jar'Kai. Also, did anyone ever think that if someone found out something new that others didnt believe, that it should be checked out, not just randomly removed? I mentioned her being lder (longer montrals/lekku), using jar kai (twin sabers), new outfit (This would practically require a new picture), and it all needs to go IN THE ARTICLE!!! Did anyone ever think that if something new was found out, maybe, juuuuust maybe, we ought to verify it, and maybe... UPDATE THE ARTIClE!?!?!?!?! I even signed my post correctly, and he just up and deleted it. for no apparent reason, either. and sorry i had to get rid of your link it was messing it up when i tried to edit.69.61.179.241 12:36, November 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Since this post seems to be the only contribution of the IP you are using, could you show us which post was removed, by using the talk page's edit history? 1358  (Talk)  15:02, November 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * You must be referring to this edit, right? I suggest that you ask Jang himself why he removed it. 1358  (Talk)  13:17, November 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's not confirmed what lightsaber technique she will use, and adding anything into the article will be speculation, which should be avoided. Furthermore, please take a look at the talkheader template on top of this talk page.  JangFett  (Talk) 22:41, November 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with 69.61.179.241. Progressing further into the series, infobox changes should be made. It's something I've suggested numerous times in this talk page. Scrayer 00:15, December 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * thank you. oh, and JangFett, twin sabers means jar kai (or maybe its niman... i get the two mixed up). check it out. you might be surprised. and yes, i know that jar kai or niman or whatever can be used with one lightsaber too... but it's the only one with two sabers, unless you blend. in the visual dictionary for AOTC it says that blending requires lots of skill... something a padawan wouldnt have, no matter whose padawan she is.69.61.179.241 13:38, December 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, 62. Please be sure to read WP:ATT and WP:NOR so you can better understand how we work. Pretty much everything you've just suggested is speculative, and we require all of our facts to come from official, licensed LFL properties with rare exceptions. In other words, until a source explicitly says she uses Jar Kai, we can't add such information to the article because, well, it's not been made publicly official yet! ~ SavageBob 16:35, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Ahsoka a Sith
Guys, a minute ago, I watched a Season 3 trailer for 2011 and it shows Ahsoka with burn-like scars. She also had yellow eyes instead of her typical blue eyes. That's all the distinctions of a Sith. I think we should put Order of the Sith Lords in Ahsoka's infobox. I think she was brainwashed.
 * Hey, let's not get ahead of ourselves. We don't know if that sequence even actually happens. I mean, what if it's a dream sequence or something? Also, please remember to sign your comments by typing ~ .  ~ SavageBob 22:44, December 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * We can't add anything about it now. That would be speculations, which is against wookiepedia's policy. Korsa3 18:51, December 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * There are more dark side organisations than just Sith. Also please remember that Anakin has a long history of horrible dreams.  --The Great and Grand Count Mall! 20:49, December 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * New information has been revealed about Ahsoka's turn to the dark side. In the upcoming episodes Overlords and Altar of Mortis, Ahsoka will be taken hostage by the Son, the physical incarnation of the dark side of the Force, in an attempt to lure Anakin into prematurely becoming Darth Vader.  The trailer shows a woman's voice, possibly Ahsoka's, is saying "You will never know your future if you remain his student." 173.180.89.129 02:03, January 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nothing is ever definate in the Star Wars world. Hence why speculation isn't allowed in articles. For all we know it(Ahsoka being "sith") could be a trap or a possesion of sorts. Korsa3 02:08, January 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * Good point. I am inclined to agree with you with on the "trap or a possesion of sorts", but just to clarify, I'm not saying Ahsoka becomes a Sith. However, the CN promo for episode 16 (Altar of Mortis) says:  Narrator: "So when Ahsoka goes missing, Anakin's going after her." Anakin: "Ahsoka, let's get out of here." Narrator: "But what if the dark side gets to her first?" Ahsoka: "I don't need you anymore."  She may not become a Sith, but we do know that the Son turns her to the dark side in an attempt to turn Anakin as well from the episode summaries of Ep.'s 16 and 17 and from an interview with Sam Witwer, who voices the Son. 173.180.89.129 06:45, January 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * This discussion is over. Unless the discussion could be about how to improve the article, anything else should be avoided. Wookieepedia and its talk pages are not forums.  JangFett  (Talk) 19:21, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Ahsoka in Star Wars: Visions
I just got the Star Wars: Visions and there was a image of Ahsoka vs. Vader. So, I'm wondering is it canon and if it is it should be mentioned in the article or atleast be listed as appearance? Marcheto 16:25, December 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure Visions is all "what if" images, but if Ahsoka is in the book, it's probably a good idea to add it to "Sources" with the template next to it to indicate it's non-canon. I'll add it. ~ SavageBob 17:14, December 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't believe it's appropriate to tag it Nc. I think Am is what it should be tagged with. -  JMAS  Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 17:18, December 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Right now, I wouldn't add it (the image) in the article. It will stir up too much speculation.  JangFett  (Talk) 22:31, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

he didn't say the image, he said the link of the image in the sources. Ralphjedimaster 00:24, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

future "clearer now it is."
if you enter the star wars website then add this: /video/view/001162.html and If you follow the link it clearly shows that Ahsoka turns to the dark side, the details might be a bit clouded at the moment but i beleive it is worth mentioning in the article about possible fourth season outcomes. 98.172.83.150 15:47, December 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, as discussed above under "Ahsoka a Sith," there is nothing clear about the video. It could be a dream sequence, it could be a vision, it could be something else. Adding anything to the article about it would be speculative and would violate Wookieepedia rules. Also, please be sure to make sure a topic hasn't already been discussed before adding a new topic to a talk page. Happy editing, ~ SavageBob 16:07, December 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * and anyway, that was a preview for the second half of season 3, not season 4. Ralphjedimaster 00:25, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Request For a New Info box Photo
I'm requesting that someone with rights add a new and updated photo of Ahsoka in her new outfit and new appearance. This seems to me, the most important request on the Talk Page since leaving this unattended is like making the info box picture of Anakin of him as a child in a podracer. Since Anakin was a real character, and spread across many films, it is apparent that that kind of edit should be done. But since Ahsoka is still a CGI, people have neglected this, but unlike other cartoon star wars films, the characters in this story grow up with apparent changes from costumes to physical. Which makes this just as important User:Magnaguardcommander Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 02:30:0 UTC
 * I agree. I think a new photo, of an older Ahsoka would be more appropriate. However, seeing as her new look has only debuted in one episode I believe, it will probably be post-poned until the series picks-up again in '11. Korsa3 02:51, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * The image is fine.  JangFett  (Talk) 02:53, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with Korsa. We'll have plenty of images to choose from as the series progresses into Ahsoka's later years. For now, I think JangFett is right; the current image is fine and there's not a better one available to replace it. ~ SavageBob 04:15, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Merge
because this page is protected (at least i think it is because i can't edit it.) i was wondering if i could get temp acsess to it so i could merge the two pages that needed to be merged onto this page. thank you! AricaBolts 23:51, December 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, the page is protected by an abuse filter that only allows users with more than 150 edits to edit the article; this was made in an effort to protect the article against vandalism, as most users with low edit counts have displayed an affinity for doing so. All you have to do is get your edit count up, and you'll be able to edit the article.  CC7567  (talk) 00:04, December 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * alright, just trying to help! thank you for clearing that up CC7567! AricaBolts 13:30, December 27, 2010 (UTC)