Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Kam Nale

Kam Nale

 * Nominated by: Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 17:06, October 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Couldn't find anything on whether or not Nale's alias, Elan Mak, should be written as Elan Mak or "Elan Mak". Rango Tel used the latter, so I just did that too.

Support

 * 1) Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 05:01, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

Object

 * "Kam Nale, also known under the alias Elan Mak, was a male Fluggrian who was a professional podracer pilot who flew an outdated Kurtob KRT 410-C around 32 BBY" - the repetition of "who" is a little wearing.
 * How does it sound now?
 * Still wasn't great, so I tidied it up a little more.
 * "Hired by Borzu's rival, the smuggler Orin Nyell, Kam was devastated" - this reads as though Nale was hired by Nyell.
 * Yah, it did. Tried to chnage it up a bit, hope it reads clearer.
 * You need to provide context on Borzu as a crime lord.
 * Alright, though the most known about him is that he was Nyell's rival.
 * I'm not entirely sure that the "Mak" pseudonym was to elude Tel, it was just to get close to Beedo... IIRC.
 * Yah, I think I read a source wrong. Best the sources say is that Nale used numerous aliases to avoid Tel, but used Elan Mak just for the podrace.
 * " Tel had also been hired by Orin Nyell, who had since become wary of Kam Nale's existence and believed that the Fluggrian would go to reclaim his father's empire and continue to work against Nyell's own operation." - Bit of a run-on.
 * Chopped it a bit now.
 * "Nale had no desire to own up to his inheritance" - Strange phrasing. Would not "claim his inheritance" suffice?
 * Guess I was trying to spice it up. Used your wording instead now.
 * "Beedo continued his race work" - Phrased oddly, race work doesn't sound right.
 * Yah, I guess it was bad wording. Changed it to "podracing career".
 * Should we have an article for this unnamed mercenary that nabs Beedo? And does he really arrest him or just apprehend him?
 * I don't think it's necessary for the merc to have an article, but it can be done. I'll redlink it for now.  It can be discussed later maybe.  HNN article states that Beedo was arrested, though I also found that terminology a bit odd.  For the sake f HNN I was just going to leave it as "arrested", unless it's strongly urged otherwise.
 * No, if the source says it that's fine.
 * You've sourced a statement about Rango Tel in the equipment section to the Republic comic, which is incorrect.
 * Whoops. Fixed.
 * BTS needs expansion - how did the Mak/Nale thing come to pass? What was the first source to establish it as an alias? Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 23:34, October 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * Looking t the timeline, Episode I Racer was released in 1999 along with the source books. Podracing Tales was 2000, and the Databank entry first arrived in 2001.  As such, it appears the guides stated the double identity first.  Whether it was the Prima or the Nintendo, I don't know.  The Nintendo guide isn't dated, and the Prima guide has yet to arrive in my mailbox.  For the BTS section I assumed the Nintendo guide, and I added some concept art pulled from the 2001 DB entry. How does it look, better? --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 03:50, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * The word "assumed" scares me, but the way you've done it is fine. Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 05:01, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yah, unfortunatly it's all I can do with it for now. If the Prima guide has a publishing date, I might switch to that though, just because it provides a hard date (if it does.  It was supposed to come in near a week ago).  --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 14:02, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, according the 1999 page, the Prima guide was released in June of 99. Again, not sure if the Elan Mak/Kam Nale thing is noted, but if it is then we have a date.  --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 15:31, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, so the Prima guide only states that Elan Mak's father was killed by Aldar Beedo. DOesn't mention an alias at all, which means that the Nintendo guide must be the first source for the alias, unless Nintendo decided to publish the book in 2001 or 2002, several years after the release of the N64, not to mention it was pretty much replaced by 2001/2002 with the PS2 and there really weren't any N64 games anymore.  As such, the earliest databank entry goes into 2001.  As such, the Nintendo guide by process of elimination must be the earliest source, minus the possibility Nintendo had no idea when to publish the guide, though that's mega-ly unlikely.  --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 22:01, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

Hanzo

 * A prelim: no infobox-exclusive info. I'm talking about eye color, height and skin color, all of which need to go to the P&T.
 * How does it look now?
 * Good job nominating this Podracer. Glad to see Podracers getting some attention. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 05:13, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I hope to do more or at least spark some interest in others.  Especially for these more Episode I racers, just finish up some of the movie characters.--Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 14:02, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

Comments

 * Have you checked all sources and adaptations for this character? That's the thing about film characters, they could be shown in so much stuff. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 05:13, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * I've been trying too, but most of the Episode I guides that I have seen simply state his name as being the owner of a podracer, being a Boonta contestant, or something similar that didn't share much.--Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 14:03, October 8, 2013 (UTC)