Talk:Grievous/Legends

Name
Shouldn't the page be titled with Grievous' original/true name? Grievous was just the name he gave himself later in life, but it wasn't his real birth name. --Mateo22 16:14, 24 August 2009 (UTC) well then what about the death star? it's called DS-1 orbital batttle station. this should be his real name, and be redirected from grievous--70.253.77.133 19:22, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * The Manual of Style states that articles are named by the most commonly known one with later names preferred; so no. Nayayen [[Image:Old Republic military symbol.png|18px]] talk  16:30, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Please familiarize yourself with our Naming Policy - the article is named after the name he used at the latter period of his life. In the other case you mentioned, both DS-1 orbital battle station and Death Star I were used simultaneously, but one name is more accurate than the other.  Mauser  Comlink 19:26, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Exactly, it's not common to think of "Greivous" and "Qymaen jai Sheelal" as same, as many doesn't know that it's one and the same, it's also smarter to use Greivous, as "Qymaen jai Sheelal" is a little hard to remember, I even used copy/paste to get it into these sentences, because of the difficulty. --H91 15:05, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

couldnt you just title the page that but redirect 'grievous'? i just noticed that we could do this because i typed in GENERAL grievous and it redirected it to just GRIEVOUS, so couldnt you just do the same but with his real name? 94.0.27.45 18:52, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Is Visionaries canon?
On the Lair of Grievous' DVD commentary, Dave Filoni says that the Visionaries story regarding Grievous is not canon. And that's the reason for this new story about Grievous choosing to be like the way he is now. Will this affect the article? Alexrd 14:03, December 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * His words are only true... from a certain point of view. Even though the Visionaries story itself may not be exactly accurate, the events surrounding the "creation" of Grievous were also described in a number of other sources, canonicity of which is without doubt. Also, note that while in Visionaries we see how Grievous is made a cyborg, in Lair of Grievous we only hear why it has happened. This would actually be pretty easy to retcon, just as "A young Jedi named Darth Vader... betrayed and murdered your father."  Mauser  Comlink 14:16, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Jedi killed by Grievous
Do we really need that list? It was deleted a long time ago... ShaakTi1138 15:34, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * Lists are avoided here, especially when they have no proper significance and just look ugly. It's been removed.  CC7567  (talk) 19:08, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * I disagree. I don't understand why you deleted the list of species and the list of planets, those made it easy to browse everything. Now you assume you know all of them so we can just look them up?--Mastergarrett9 18:24, February 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Criticizing me won't solve the problem. If you can find a proper, non-list method of implementing the information, then you are very much welcome to do so.  CC7567  (talk) 19:46, February 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * I disagree too. A list doesn't look ugly, it helps you browse the site better. Most of us come here to figure that sort of stuff out. Someone might not hear it and hear just the end of something (Cor in Rancor) and want to look at a list to figure it out. And I don't mean to criticize you. Eguy8 02:06, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with Eguy8 and Mastergarrett9. Lists are useful, and in my opinion, not ugly;a simple format that's easy to read (while providing valuable information) Korsa3 02:32, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

Eeth Koth
It seems that Grievous was underestimated by Dooku. The count thought it a surprise that Grievous defeated a Jedi Master when he was under the impression he bested Kit Fisto. However, he seemed to best Eeth Koth with less effort (debatable, since he had droid assistance in both fights). Was this his first real Jedi Master (and a councilman, no less) victory, or were there others before Koth he eliminated? All of this would seem worthwhile to mention in the article, which currently describes him to not be too much of a match for a master at some points. I also don't find it necessary to mention that fans have argued he was beaten too easily by Kenobi. The obvious reason for his lesser fighting skills in Episode III was the fact that Mace Windu severely injured his primary pressure point (chest plating). -- Mateo22 Seperatist_leadership.jpg Contact 23:21, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, how should it be mentioned in the article? Eeth Koth is one of the only Jedi Masters to fall by Grievous' hand in combat. Yet, somewhere I read that Grievous was a match to all but a Jedi Master. Well?? -- Mateo22 Seperatist_leadership.jpg Contact 20:54, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Fingers in Clone Wars
He had five fingers in Clone Wars for 'most' of the series? This would mean that he was suddenly given six fingers during the final chapters while he was chasing Palpatine. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't he always have five fingers and then when he must split his arms into four, his middle finger splits in half? If I'm accurate on that, he would always have five finger when fighting with two hands. Should that be the case, that's an update for the article. -- Mateo22 Seperatist_leadership.jpg Contact 21:57, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

You are right from his introduction in Clone Wars he did have hands with five fingers. More interesting is that in The Clone Wars series he has four fingers. Then in the last chapters of Clone Wars and in Episode III he had six. My guess would be that he started with the five then switched to four; I say this because when they showed him with five fingers he only wielded three lightsaber. One in each hand and one held in one foot. He most likely had his arms switch so they could separate and those arms had four fingered hands. Then near the end of the war he may have switch again to the six finger version. I mean with four fingers on the hand and having it divide in half it would have to be two fingers and two thumbs. Which probably didn't help with gripping a lightsaber four fingers and two thumbs would give a better grip. --JMasterWor 23:37, February 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * There's a little thing called artistic liscence. It pretty much means that even though the character model only has so many fingers, the creaters aren't saying thats how many fingers he has. --The Great and Grand Count Mall! 20:50, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Grievous' Medical Droid
Should General Grievous' odd and suprisingly good relationship with his medical droid be mentioned under the personality and traits section of this page? --X859 01:10, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Grievous killing Jedi
Should it be mentioned that, dispute the fact that 3 Jedi Masters and 2 Jedi Knights can't take or defeat Grievous, 1 Padawan can? Or is the new series not canon? (I hope it really isn't) Well, I appologize for upsetting anyone... Thought I'd ask, since is is discussion and not part of the article. From what I've seen of Ashoka, she is a Padawan who is just as, or more powerful then a lot of masters/knights in the whole of the mythos. She is just overpowered for her state of being, and has quite the connection to skywalker since she's never mentioned/factored into anything else. If they wanted strong female role models they has Tii, Unduli, Secura and Offee, and they probably would have been fine and since they are all Knight/Masters, the power that would be portayed would be more logical. :P
 * It is canon, more so than other sources. And no, it shouldn't. Besides, Ahsoka doesn't "take or defeat" Grievous, she mostly just avoids his attacks and runs away.--Demos Traxen 03:47, April 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * She was defeated, but she mostly ran away from Grievous during that duel. For the article, that scene from Duel of the Droids is mentioned. However, as for the certain amount of Jedi can't take Grievous, but a Padawan can, that shouldn't be mentioned. It has no place in the article, other than speculation.  JangFett  (Talk) 04:46, April 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Please take note of the Talkheader disclaimer policy; yes, this page is discussion, but it's for discussion relating to changes for the article, not analyzing canon per say.  CC7567  (talk) 08:08, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

True killer of Sun Fac?
Is Grievous the true killer of Sun Fac? In Republic commando, right after Sun Fac's ship crashes, an unidentified ship that "doesn't look Geonosian" flies by. Could this necessarily mean that Grievous killed Fac for whatever motives he had?Xx19FallenFromGracexx 20:37, April 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * No, 'cause Sev sniped it and you can watch him do it. VhettSkirata Mando'ade  20:52, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

number of lightsabers
In clone wars, he weilded three lightsabers, one in each hand, one in a foot. Since he could slipt his arms into four, isn't it possible that he could have weilded FIVE lightsabrs at a time? or did he use different feet later on. it doesn't look like his feet in the movie are jointed, but they ARE magnetic. magnetically holding a lightsaber?66.42.173.161 17:30, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Greivous Fan Film
There is a Fan film of general grievous which is set to be released in fall 2010. It has the most notable battle of Hypori. -Zephspacer-
 * That's not really relevant to Wookieepedia, at all. --Imperialles 17:49, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Weak and injured?
I'm not a hundred percent sure if I'm correct on this or not but was Grievous really still weak and injured fighting Kenobi on Utapau? For one, he never had his smoker's cough after Obi-Wan arrived and I was pretty sure the novelization stated that he had had adequate time to repair himself. Plus, Obi-Wan has beaten him in lightsaber combat a many time before. Grievous just isn't able to penetrate Obi-Wan master of the Soresu defense. -HeartoftheForce

No, it was just Obi-Wan's "cheap" ability to use the force that killed Grievous. I say cheap because Grievous is my favorite character in the entire Star Wars universe, so therefore I don't like Obi-Wan for that. ZombiezuRFER 14:25, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Anakins lightsaber?
I was watching ROTS and when he fought Obi Wan on Utapau, one of his lightsabers looked exactly like Anakins.


 * They probably just reused the CGI model. --The Great and Grand Count Mall! 20:51, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

First Meeting?
Grievous mentions that he looks forward to meeting Ventress in the the new clone wars episode ARC Troopers, and Starwars.com says it's their first time meeting. So does that mean they just forgot about fighting one another in Rogue's Gallery? --Gideon Stryker 20:53, Sept 19, 2010 (UTC)

well, two people trying to kill each other hardly constitutes a meeting. the events beforehand in rouges gallery were more of a training exercise, and would not constitute a proper meeting. so really it all comes down to interpretation of the word "meeting" Swordsquirrel 20:12, November 5, 2010 (UTC)