Talk:Star Wars: Empire at War

Halo Mod
I added the Halo: First Offensive (http://halo.eawnexus.com/forums/index.php} mod to the Incomplete mod list. I'm just posting this so no one goes "That's not true! I'm so smart!" and deletes it, which seems to be a common occurance here.

Kyle Katarn and other "hidden" units...
Mara Jade, Kyle Katarn, and General Veers are not hidden units. Jade and Katarn are in the skirmish modes and Veers appears in the campaign as well as Galactic Conquest, which is why I removed them from the list. If I was wrong please add them back. Thanks. CaptJim 01:54, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

JERK!
How did the imperial Assualt II page get deleted!? There is nothing wrong with that page!

Release Date
Hey when is the demo coming out?!?!?!?! I am a big star wars fan and i cant wait to play this game. The game is scheduled for a Feb release. Rumors state that a demo could be released as early as Dec. Shadowtrooper talk 00:28, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * We only know that the game will come out something in fall, but no specifics as to when exactly. -- Riffsyphon1024 18:03, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually Feburary. --24.247.124.158
 * Oh! I thought Riffsyphon1024 was talking about the actual release date. --24.247.124.158

Polus?
Is that link to Polus supposed to be Polis Massa?
 * No. --Azizlight 02:29, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Taris
Someone knows something about Taris' appearance in the game? Is it rebuilt? A barren wastleland? Something?
 * Looks like they rebuilt most of the cities in the course of 4000 years, judging by the screenshots. Similar architecture, too. Looks very "Coruscant-ish" from orbit. VT-16 14:52, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

What gets me is that the populus is supporting the Galactic Empire, which is ruled by the Sith. The Sith destroyed their planet during the Jedi Civil War, so what is with that?
 * First, nobody knows that Palps is the Sith. Second, that was 4000 years ago. Do you know how many times allegiances change in 4000 years?-- The Erl of  talk  What I do 15:32, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Demo
A demo came out today, with a tutorial for both sides (rebel and Imperial) and a short Rebel campaign featuring Hoth, an asteroid field, and Tatooine, with both land and space battles.

Good luck finding a place without insanely slow download times.


 * I've played it through a few times already, it was pretty neat. I got very good download speeds at GamersHell, but I think it's clogged up now. The demo seemed very promising. I really like how they've combined the space and ground battles; when I had Y-wings stationed over Tatooine I could call in bombing runs to help the ground troops. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the real thing.
 * It's a huge DL, so most places are clogged with pushing 700+ MB. The demo is disappointing. --SparqMan 19:04, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm fond of it myself, though the tech tree does seem disappointingly small. I do like the space combat and resource system, as well as capturing planets for bonuses and the hero units.  I just wish there was more variety with the vehicles and vessels.

Keep in mind that there are already a few mods out that will breathe some life into the demo. One unlocks the entire Rebel Tech Tree for you for ground and space, and another unlocks Geonosis and allows you to play as the Empire. You can use the Death Star, and some have reported that they have successfully attacked planets, though even if they attack a place as barren and volcanic as Sullust, a Tutorial Map will be used.

Venator destoyer
how do u get Venator-class Star Destroyer in the demo?

-Darth Tader

I downloaded the demo but there was no Venators there. General Nai


 * It is impossible to build them....honestly. If you edit the XML files you can.NOTE: it is called the jedi cruiser, copy the data file and move it somewhere you can find it but not in Data folder so if you screw up the game you can replace it with the good one you saved, be careful;it is easy to get confused and mess something up unless you are good at it, like me.Star Destroyer 2500 21:41, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Venator, ISP, AT-AP and V-wing
I see they were put into their own category today. Is it confirmed that they are in the finished game, then? VT-16 23:09, 17 February 2006 (UTC) no they aren't
 * yes they are I have played them.Star Destroyer 2500 21:43, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Canon Status
What's the canon status for this game? It should be written. --UVnet 23:32, 21 February 2006 (UTC) The Imperial stormtroopers seem to use a previously unidentified blaster rifle/carbine rather than the typical E-11 blaster carbine. On worlds with a desert or arctic climate, they utilize the DLT-20A or the E-17D blaster or sniper rifle. Beyond trivialities, several events seem implausible. In the game, Han Solo works as both saboteur, spy, and commando for the Rebellion at a time when he was active in the Corporate Sector. Mara Jade, three (ONE is cannon) years younger than Luke Skywalker, would be at most fifteen years old at the time of the game. Also, the idea that the Rebellion would actively conquer and hold worlds is inherently lacking canonical support.
 * Several points contradict established canon. The first point is in the main Rebellion campaign, future Admiral Ackbar is rescued following the storming of an orbital research institute. This is in contrast with his rescue as depicted in the video game X-Wing, with Rebel forces ambushing an Imperial convoy. Captain Raymus Antilles is portrayed as being Captain Colton Antilles, being commander of the Tantive IV during the ISD Devastator's capture of the ship. In the game, it is reported in the Rebellion campaign, that Tantive IV was captured, and Raymus was presumed dead. In addition, several ships appear to have replaced the niche of other ships in the canon. The Tartan class light cruiser seems to have replaced the role of the Carrack Cruiser, or the later Lancer Frigate. The Marauder Corvette was used principally as a light policing cruiser by the Corporate Sector Authority, is depicted as a missile cruiser. The Imperial variant, the "Broadside Cruiser," does not appear in any other canonical sources.
 * How about we include anything that doesn't contradict with what's already stated as canon? DAWUSS 22:04, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
 * There's a type of Rebel soldier mentioned in SW: Rebellion as being used to incite uprisings on Imperial worlds, and also subdue uprisings and insurrections on Alliance worlds. So the Alliance would hold worlds (mostly in the Outer Rim, though). I also believe Raymus Antilles commanded the Sundered Heart (a modified CR90 corvette), while his son, Colton, had the Tantive IV. Apparently both men died during the debacle in the Tatooine system. That is, if that part of the "First Battle of Tatooine (Galactic Civil War)" article isn't made up. VT-16 18:16, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, he, for some reason, was piloting an X-wing during the battle. During the part where Blue Squadron was scouting the area, a pilot says, "Quiet. What happened to the pirate resistance force? What do you think, blue leader?" (or something like that.) Raymus responded, making him seem like one of the pilots of the x-wings. Lt. 1993 22:07, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Is any part of this game actually canon? A large portion of the game is contradictory to established canon or is completely new. Just wondering. Azzt Rhell 22:19, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes. Why would having new things make it not canon? --  I need a name  ( Complain here ) 23:17, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Wellll....if some is canon, then what? Azzt Rhell 22:49, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

May be slightly off topic but..
Who the hell is going to download a demo THAT large? I couldn't do it, and I'm on DSL! Lord Patrick 06:25, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I did. It's not that big. I think it's about as big as a 2 hour film, which people steal from the web all the time. -LtNOWIS 06:45, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Conquest
Well the game has been out for some time and it appers to me unfinished like they were going to develop a free-er way to play but time constrictions most likely set the full version back. It is a wonderful game challenging in the Land battles, the Space battles are where its at truely EaW has defined Strategic Space Warfare that can be improved upon i would love to see an expanstion soon or even a good appemt to make a full mod that is installable.--Kyrias 07:37, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 * They mentioned several months ago that Mustafar and the other CW planets would serve a purpose "in due time", so that basically confirmed an expansion. :) VT-16 18:08, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Acclamators
Are the Acclamators in the game Mk IIs? They seem more like assault ships rather than transports. Kuralyov 02:49, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
 * That's what I thought as well. The Acclamators in EAW are meant for combat, and thus would probably be of the Mk. II model. The Acclamators in SW:Empire only carried prisoners and walkers, and would fit the Mk. I purpose. VT-16 18:06, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

4La57oR
Hi, I just got the collector's edition and the game is amazing! i changed a bit the article so it will use names from the game and also sorted everithing by "Heroes" "Ground Units" and "Space Units". Hope u guys won't have any problem with that I just think it's nicer.............

Venators, V-Wings, Tie Advanced, and the Pirate Ships
Where can you see these? I can guess the TIE/a and V-Wings come in the campaign, haven't gotten that far yet, but the pirate stations don't have any Venators for sale.

Also, where can I find info about the Pirate Fighters, Pirate Patrol Ship, and Pirate Frigate? They don't have any name ingame, and I want to have some more info.

Thank in advance. :) 83.227.160.135 20:49, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

I saw V-Wings during a battle in the Galatix Conquest. General Nai
 * I found out about the Pirate Ships; Pirate interceptor cruiser was one of the ships, and IPV/1 Patrol Craft is another. Still have no idea what the Pirate Fighters are for fighters. Was going to look at a Black Sun Fleet List here on Wiki, but I can't seem to find any. If anyone has any clues, please respond here. Oh, and my mind didn't process that Darth Vader used the TIE/a, although that's something I've known for years. Still don't know where the Venators or V-Wings appear, though. 83.227.160.135 03:45, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I remember seeing a Black Sun fighter (or a Hutt fighter, can't remember) from SW:Galaxies being used as a pirate fighter, but I have no idea if that was in promotional screenshots, the demo or the actual final game. Also, I see someone put up the Venator again. The same question applies there: Where is it found? In the demo or in the actual game (no mods, I'm talking about the original, un-touched final version of the game). VT-16 11:15, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Yep, I found it. It's this one: Rihkxyrk Attack Ship. Rutkowski 14:37, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Fixed the info concerning the Venators, and I added the pirate ships. Feel free to clean it up, I'm not very talented with Wiki. Rutkowski 04:42, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * You can only get Venators by editing the XML files; and theyre called jedi cruisers. Be careful editing the XML files can screw up the game so keep a backup datafile.Star Destroyer 2500 14:09, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Rebel Moff
Can anybody provide the name for the Moff that rebelled against the Empire in the game. I've played it but i cant remember his name. Jasca Ducato 10:51, 13 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Moff Kalast Rutkowski 19:07, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Hidden Units
Added in a section concerning removed or hidden units in the game. It's late, I'll touch it up tomorrow. Trucidar 07:49, 25 April 2006 (UTC)


 * How do you get them? -- Cato Neimoidia 20:31, 25 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Certain units can be enabled via editting of the XML, MEG, and DAT files. The ones listed as (Unlocked) were comeplete enough to recover a workable unit, and as such, are available on websites like the Fan Forums for download.

Asteroid rings
Is it just me, or does every planet on EaW have an asteroid ring in orbit? I haven't actually played the game, but every planetary screenshot on Wookieepedia seems to posses an asteroid belt. Am I missing something? -- SFH 00:04, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I think they were put in for a strategic reason.. but it doesn't make sense. What you say is true, though. Every planet has an asteroid belt and one or two nebulas. A bunch of planets even have fierce electrical storms in areas.. which I highly doubt would be around every planet. Trucidar 03:21, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

A-Wings
Anyone think that the A-wings in this game are actually referring to R-22 A-wings, not RZ-1 A-wings? It would make more sense as to why they are present so early on. Trucidar 21:48, 30 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Places have said it may have been the R-22 Spearhead, an earlier version of the A-wing.Star Destroyer 2500 21:49, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Inconsistancies
I've looked at the inconsistancies, and do not think that they are legitimate. But I don't want to delete them unless others agree.


 * First off, the presence of Acclamators for the Galactic Empire. This makes sense. The Empire could not disband it's entire fleet of Acclamators before replacing them, which takes time. Therefore, it is a reasonable assumption by Empire at War that they were phased out, but still saw action against the rebellion. They could not have suddenly just disappeared at the start of the Rebellion.


 * Secondly, the A-wings in this game could be referring to the original rebel A-wings, which present at the Battle of Yavin, meaning it's possible for them to be in the game.


 * Lastly, Palpatine discovered Wayland and established his storehouse there.. meaning it was known to the Empire, and therefore could be seen in this game.

So what are your thoughts? Trucidar 05:19, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

I say delete them all, you are pretty correct. On the first note, I can also remind you that Acclamators, although the MK.I version, were used by the New Republic against the Yuuzhan Vong.Rutkowski 12:37, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I also think the whole "Victory" argument is stupid. The Rebellions first Major victory was Yavin. Doesn't it was their first victory of any size. 67.175.123.49

I found that the last mission in Empire Campaign is inconsistent with established canon, and it is supposed to build up to the events of Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope. In that mission, you are required to destroy Yavin IV and Hoth or conquer them. According to established canon, the Death Star only destroyed Alderaan. The Empire did not invade Hoth when Death Star I existed. The Empire invaded Yavin IV only after the Death Star was destroyed. Tedius Zanarukando 06:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Those aren't cannon the devs and anyone else involved figured that people would use common sense to figure that out Wswordsmen

As for the subject of the Rebellion winning victories before Yavin, even the introductory credits in A New Hope(at least as of the '97 special edition; I've yet to see if the DVD version's credits say the same thing) state that the Rebels had won their first major victory before Yavin, and it was in this victory that the Rebellion had gained access to the Death Star plans.Will 17:28, 31 January 2007 (UTC)William S. Signs

New Ships in Forces of Corruption
I saw many new capital ships for the Pirates? in the videos and screenshots. Is there any ship like those in canon?
 * They are canon, yes, but they aren't named yet. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:51, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The look powerful for something Pirates get. Probably their affiliated with the "True Sith".-Rob
 * The cruisers that cloak and have weapons that pass through shields are called Vengeance-class Cruisers.. but this is their first appearance. The other ships, the ones that shoot the helix's, they don't have a name atm. Trucidar 03:10, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I wonder if the Rebels will get a Republic Star Destroyer as a new unit...-Rob
 * Where did you find that name, Vengeance-class? Which source? VT-16 17:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The E3 Presenter called them that. Trucidar 04:56, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. :D VT-16 14:13, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

New article for Forces of Corruption?
Good idea? Jasca Ducato 19:11, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'd say so. We have a separate article for Mysteries of the Sith, but not the expansion packs for the X-Wing games. -LtNOWIS 23:57, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Split Gameplay section?
I think this article could be improved if we divided the Gameplay section into three parts: Campaign, Galactic Conquest, and Skirmish. Just an idea. I also made some minor edits to the Gameplay section (punctuation mostly.) (Sirius Shadowflame 23:11, 2 October 2006 (UTC))

How Come
On my computer when you are really close to the ground in land battles the units are white and have no color until you zoom out. How come? Star Wars: Enterprise 16:18, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Your graphics card. Try turning the graphics settings down a little. --Imp 16:41, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 * How do I do that? Star Wars: Enterprise 15:25, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * In the main menu, go to Settings and then Video. You can modify all your video and graphics settings here. If you then click "Advanced" you can further customize your graphics settings. You can also change the settings in-game using the in-game menu (Esc) and clicking Settings-->Video. (Sirius Shadowflame 18:26, 30 October 2006 (UTC))
 * All the settings on advanced are turned down to the lowest they can be. They already were. 71.31.46.46 02:58, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Thrawn?
On imdb they list someone for providing the voice of Grand Admiral Thrawn

was he a deleted unit also? Eggzavier 22:07, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Jorrel Fraajic Communications Relay 17:18, 3 January 2007 (UTC) Eggzavier 22:07, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * You could possibly be looking at the Star Wars: Empire at War: Forces of Corruption expansion. Thrawn's in that game. And be sure to sign your name with four ~'s, like this: ~
 * Right, IMDB just grouped the two games together on the same page. My Mistake

Are the listed Mods allowed to creat a wookieepedia subpage?
As part of Ultimate EaW I'd like to add a detailed webpage on our Mod to the Wookieepedia, including some screenshots etc... Is that allowed here? UEAW is (v3.2.2) and will be stricly canon, of course. (Fynbos 14:33, 23 January 2007 (UTC))
 * I don't believe that's allowed, at least not here. However, Petropedia does accept detailed mod pages (it's where the IA2 one is). 15:17, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd say they should give it a try. The texts will be professional and since those games seems to be a major strategy playing point in Star Wars Universe, they should be considered to all extents, though making it clear that some are fanon and some canon. Also an argument would be, that Petropedia is only on PetroGames and the vast amount of non-Petry Star Wars Games would bring up the idea of generating a platform for company-independent Softwares. Some mods claim to have larger download counts then orginal Addons for games were sold at all (for example the Steiner Mod for EAW / B-Wing mission disk to X-Wing Game) I'd like to give it a try. Fynbos 20:27, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Shadowclaw
Could someone provide a source for the Shadowclaw-class destroyer? it sounds fanonish. Chack Jadson 13:42, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The name is in the game's XML and model files, but it uses the Barloz-class freighter as its model. 07:05, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, thanks. Chack Jadson 13:48, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Mission Outlines
Someone really should try to get some outlines done for the missions in Campaign. I would but a)my computer is being irritating and b)I don't have enough time. Thanks. Azzt Rhell 22:15, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Calamari Star Cruiser
I'm not too good with starships, but aren't the Calamari Cruisers in EaW MC80's? They sure look like ones. And since those apparently weren't invented until after Endor, that seems like yet another inconsistency. And it couldn't have been the MC40, since that was designed some time before Hoth. There are other calamari craft that did exist at the time, but they don't look like the vessels in-game. Any theories, or is this something for the inconsistencies list? DarthMRN 15:44, 2 February 2007 (UTC)


 * According to the instruction booklet included in the packaging(which may or may not be accurate), they are indeed MC80's. Grand Moff Rhell 23:50, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Main Article Organization
I was just thinking that it might make more sense to have the mod-related sections more near the bottom of the article rather than the top. I figured I'd throw this out there to see if anyone else thought it was worth doing. Grand Moff Rhell 01:44, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Already done. I thought the exact same thing. 15:11, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Fonfor?
There is a game guide of Empire at war that mentions Fonfor. I think it's a mistake (instead of Fondor), but another webpage and some pages of wikipedia mention it.

Fonfor?

The worse is that we can´t edite it... --Palpatine81 16:13, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It's a typo. Look at a QWERTY keyboard; the D is right next to the F. Most likely, those who retyped that article copied directly from the game guide, and didn't pay attention to spelling errors (if it made it to publishing, it should have already been proofread, right?). It's worth a BTS mention, though. 15:48, 11 February 2007 (UTC)