Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations/Defending Your Freedom


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Defending Your Freedom

 * Nominated by: QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 19:55, February 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Combo x4

(3 ECs/0 Users/3 Total)
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 * 1)  OLIOSTER   (talk) 13:32, February 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) Menkooroo 16:09, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) ~ SavageBob 06:51, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

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 * No information on when it was released?  OLIOSTER  (talk) 03:39, February 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nope. Artistic Integrity was their latest release, and Totally Patriotic came before that. However, we don't know when specifically Totally Patriotic was released. Could be in the same 0 ABY-4 ABY timeframe, could be earlier. QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 13:21, February 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Food for thought: Should songs have the in-universe media infobox? mediatype=song. It seems like it applies. Menkooroo 09:56, February 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Probably. I just have one question regarding the era field. I don't think that eras apply here, because, unlike a painting which can be lost or destroyed, a song will potentially exist forever once it's been written. Any thoughts? QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 18:08, February 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * How about something like... "Rebellion era and later" ? Menkooroo 14:08, February 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Which brings us to another problem. We don't know when the album was released; we only know that it already existed during the Rebellion era, but it could've been released before the Battle of Yavin. So saying "Rebellion era and later" would be incorrect as it could've existed in "Rise of the Empire era" as well. QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 18:32, February 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Maybe something a bit more ambiguous, like... "As early as the Rebellion era" ? Maybe throw in an "at least" at the beginning? Menkooroo 00:10, February 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Should this use the in-universe media infobox? ~ SavageBob 18:14, February 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * See above, Bob ;) QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 18:32, February 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, I don't want to break into the discussion with Menkooroo above, but In history/genealogy, you'll often see "by [date]", so that could be an option for the era (or just leave it off completely). ~ SavageBob 15:57, February 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ooooh I like that better. "By the Rebellion era" . Nice. Menkooroo 01:33, March 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks guys for your input. Check out the newly added super nice infobox :) QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 15:28, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Cool! I have one other concern: Is it proper to capitalize "The" in "The Emperor's New Clothes" when it doesn't begin a sentence? If the OS does this, I'll drop it, but otherwise, I'd think the the should be lowercase like here: "I went to see the Beatles play, but all I got was the Who." ~ SavageBob 16:19, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, Galaxy Guide does not use their name in mid-sentence; it mostly uses "the band" or somesuch. However, I don't think it should be in lowercase. "The" is part of the proper name of the band; I believe it falls under the same grammar rules as, say, movie titles. We don't say character X appeared in the Phantom Menace; we say that he/she/it appeared in The Phantom Menace. Take The Beatles for example. I know Wikipedia isn't the most reliable source, but it's an FA, and the band name is spelled in all uppercase throughout the article. There's been a lengthy debate regarding this matter, which has some interesting food for thought on the topic. QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 17:42, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Count me firmly in the the camp, but as it's ambiguous without some sort of CT, I can live with it. ~ SavageBob 06:51, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

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