Wookieepedia:Good article nominations

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A Good article is an article that adheres to quality standards, but cannot reach FA status due to its limited content.


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An article must&hellip;


 * 1) &hellip;be well-written and detailed.
 * 2) &hellip;be unbiased, non-point of view.
 * 3) &hellip;be sourced with all available sources and appearances.
 * 4) &hellip;follow the Manual of Style, Layout Guide, and all other policies on Wookieepedia.
 * 5) &hellip;following the review process, be stable, i.e., does not change significantly from day to day and is not the subject of ongoing edit wars. This does not apply to vandalism and protection or semi-protection as a result of vandalism.
 * 6) &hellip;not be tagged with any sort of improvement tags (i.e. more sources, expand, etc).
 * 7) &hellip;have a proper lead that gives a good summary of the topic if the length of the article supports it. This is essential in articles over 1000 words but may not be appropriate on articles with limited content.
 * 8) &hellip;not be tagged due to an excessive number of redlinks.
 * 9) &hellip;have significant information, especially a biography for character articles. For articles under 1000 words in length, comprehensive detail is required with all information covered from all sources and appearances. For articles over 1000 words, broad coverage addressing all major aspects of the topic is sufficient.
 * 10) &hellip;be completely referenced for all available material and sources. See Sourcing for more information.
 * 11) &hellip;have all quotes and images sourced.
 * 12) &hellip;provide at least one quote on the article if available. A leading quote at the beginning of the article would be preferred, though not required if no quotes are available. Although quotes may be placed in the body of the article, a maximum of one quote is allowed at the beginning of each section.
 * 13) &hellip;ideally include a "personality and traits" section on all character articles if information is available.
 * 14) &hellip;ideally include a "powers and abilities" section on relevant character articles, especially for Force-sensitive characters where said powers and/or abilities are stipulated.
 * 15) &hellip;include a "Behind the scenes" section.
 * 16) &hellip;include a reasonable number of images of sufficient quality to illustrate the article, if said images are available.
 * 17) &hellip;counting the introduction and "Behind the scenes" material, be at least 250 words long (not including captions, quotes, or headers, etc). Alternatively, a comprehensive article cannot exceed 3000 words.

How to nominate:


 * 1) First, nominate an article you find is worthy of good status, putting it at the bottom of the list below. Nominated articles must meet all seventeen requirements stated above.
 * 2) Add GAnom at the top of the article you are nominating.
 * 3) Be sure to place sign in the "Nominated by" line when the nomination is posted for voting.
 * 4) Others will object to the nomination if they disagree that the article is good enough; they will then supply reasons for doing so, and ways to improve the article (errors, style, organization, images, notability, sources).
 * 5) Supporters adjust the article until the objectors (with reasonable objections) are satisfied.

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 * 1) Before doing anything, be sure to read the article completely, keeping a sharp eye out for mistakes.
 * 2) Afterwards, compare the article to the criteria listed above, and then either support or object the article's nomination.
 * 3) *If you object, please supply concrete reasons for doing so, and how it can be improved.
 * 4) As stated above, any objections will be looked upon by the nominator, supporters, and anyone willing to improve the article, and action will be taken to please the objectors. Do not strike other users' objections; it is up to the objector to review the changes and strike if they are satisfied.
 * 5) Once an article has a total of five votes, with at least three votes coming from AgriCorps or Inquisitorius members&mdash;one of which must be an AgriCorps vote&mdash;after at least a week since it was nominated (beginning the day of its nomination) and no objections (or the objections have been stricken or overridden), the article will be considered a "Good article" and tagged with the template. The talk page will also be tagged with the GA template.
 * 6) The article is placed on the Good article list.

All nominations will be considered idle and are subject to removal by AgriCorps vote if objections are not addressed after a period of 3 weeks.

Good article nominations
To nominate an article for Good article status, list it here. Nominated articles must meet all seventeen requirements stated above. If an article has a total of five votes, with at least three votes coming from AgriCorps or Inquisitorius members&mdash;one of which must be an AgriCorps vote&mdash;after at least a week since it was nominated (beginning the day of its nomination) and no objections (or the objections have been stricken or overridden), the article will be considered a "Good article" and tagged with the template. The talk page will also be tagged with the GA template. For complete instructions on archiving nominations please see here. Also remember to add GAnom at the top of the article you are nominating.

Zelka Forn

 * Nominated by: -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg (Imperial Intelligence)  15:54, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Doctor? Doctor Who?

(1 ACs/5 Users/6 Total)
Support
 * 1) Master JonathanJedi Council Chambers 03:46, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Seems mostly fine now. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 08:08, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 3)  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 17:33, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) Good job.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 14:30, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 5)  Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 10:24, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) LordDeathRay  (My Sith Holocron)

Object
 * 1) From the Council Chambers:
 * 2) * "After the destruction of the Galactic Republic, the main galactic government of the time, warship Endar Spire, individuals brought in several Republic soldiers who had been seriously wounded in the battle." Huh? Either something's missing or there's extraneous words here, because this doesn't make sense.
 * 3) * "Rakghoul this, rakghoul that": Rakghoul is inconsistently capitalized. Most notably, the term "[R]akghoul serum" is used at least once each way. I seem to possibly remember that Rakghoul should be capitalized, but I'm not sure if that is true or if my crazy brain is making stuff up. Which is correct?
 * 4) *I did a copyedit for you. Remember that the Ref template is only used in the infobox&mdash;you had it in the body, too, which I fixed. Otherwise, it's well-written and easily understandable for someone totally unfamiliar with that era. Good job. Master JonathanJedi Council Chambers 04:47, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) **Alright, done. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg (Imperial Intelligence)  19:34, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) Soresu
 * 7) * Benevolent is POV. Please remove.
 * 8) * Linking. Make sure everything is linked once in the intro and the body.
 * 9) * You begin too many sentences with Forn. Try using "he" instead.
 * 10) * Try not to use "grieved" twice.
 * 11) * After the destruction of the warship Endar Spire. Why and by whom was the Spire destroyed? Also, you haven't established where this event happened.
 * 12) * Despite the Sith government, the government that followed the Sith ideology, having an occupation of Taris, which could have seen him arrested and possibly shot, Forn agreed to heal the soldiers. He put a few of the soldiers in kolto tanks, healing medical tanks, in a back room of his facility. this doesn't flow very well. May I suggest something like Despite the fact that Taris was occupied by the Sith, which could have seen him arrested and possibly shot, Forn agreed to heal the soldiers, putting them in kolto tanks in a back room of his facility.
 * 13) * In the intro, you say that Revan killed a patrol to obtain the serum, but in the body, you say he found a corpse. Which is correct?
 * 14) * How did Revan discover the soldiers if they were in a back room? IIRC, he convinced Forn to show him the soldiers. you should probably add that some of them had already died.
 * 15) * Bts expansion. You need to add info about his appearance in KotOR as an NPC, his entry in the CSWE, whether it is possible to finish the game without doing the quest, and how he reacts if you give the serum to someone else.
 * 16) * The bts is too trivia-ish at the moment.
 * 17) * Is it actually essential to the plot that you meet Zelka? Can you actually finish the game without going into the medical facility? If so, then it would be unconfirmed as to whether Revan met him, and an extra bts note would be required. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 10:59, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * 18) **Fixed, although no, Revan looked in the back room. I don't recall any sort of way for Zelka to agree to show him. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg (Imperial Intelligence)  16:47, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * 19) Soresu's second look
 * 20) * There are some previous objections you haven't taken care of. In future, put a message after each objection, to alert the objector to the fact that they are all done, and so that if there are any issues, they can continue the discussion. In this case, to keep it organised, I'll strike all the old ones and reiterate any that are still not addressed.
 * 21) * You begin too many sentences with Forn. Try using "he" instead.
 * 22) **Fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg (Imperial Intelligence)  16:37, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * 23) * How did Revan discover the soldiers if they were in a back room? IIRC, he convinced Forn to show him the soldiers. you should probably add that some of them had already died.
 * 24) **I don't recall any sort of way for Zelka to agree to show him.
 * 25) ***I'm pretty sure that you can persuade Forn into believing that you are a friend of the Republic. He then opens the door. The other way is to bash through the door of course. Instead of just saying he discovered them, you need to elaborate on how. One of these outcomes will have to be expanded upon in the body, while the other will have to go to the bts.
 * 26) ****Yep. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg (Imperial Intelligence)  16:37, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * 27) * After Revan discovers the soldiers, he and Forn have a short converstion, the details of which should be added into the article.
 * 28) * Bts expansion. You need to add info about his appearance in KotOR as an NPC, his entry in the CSWE, whether it is possible to finish the game without doing the quest, and how he reacts if you give the serum to someone else.
 * 29) **You haven't added anything about the CSWE entry or his reaction of you give the serum to someone else.
 * 30) ***Okay. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg (Imperial Intelligence)  16:37, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * 31) * Is it actually essential to the plot that you meet Zelka? Can you actually finish the game without going into the medical facility? If so, then it would be unconfirmed as to whether Revan met him, and an extra bts note would be required.
 * 32) **That was added in before hand; oddly, however, the article includes content however isn't showing anything beneath the first paragraph of the BtS. I'll talk to staff about that. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg (Imperial Intelligence)  16:37, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * 33) * The bts is too trivia-ish at the moment.
 * 34) ** I didn't mean for you to delete that info, I was merely saying that it looked a bunch of facts in a list. The info should be restored and integrated into larger, more orgainsed paragraphs.
 * 35) ***Not deleted. Same problem. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg (Imperial Intelligence)  16:37, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * 36) * This page currently is not categorised. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 23:02, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * 37) **It is categorized, but the categories are in the section not showing. By the time you're reading this, they should be fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg (Imperial Intelligence)  16:37, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * 38) *Hm. Odd. Seems fine now. Alright, done. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg (Imperial Intelligence)  16:38, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * 39) **I'll vote as soon as an AC review comes in. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 08:12, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * 40) Graestan the Merciless:
 * 41) * Last names after first mention, please.
 * 42) **What do you mean? -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg (Imperial Intelligence)  17:18, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 43) ***The first time you mention an individual, use their full name. From that point onwards, use their last name only. Using first names is seen as too informal for our encyclopedia. --Eyrezer 04:13, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 44) **Alright, solely referred to as "Forn" throughout. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg (Imperial Intelligence)  10:25, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 45) * I'm pretty sure things like "the South" when referring to the Upper City can be dismissed as game mechanics.
 * 46) **Addressed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg (Imperial Intelligence)  17:18, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 47) * "amnesiac Jedi Knight" doesn't quite cut it when referring to Revan. At the time, he was pretty much nothing in terms of being a Force user; I'd almost prefer that his Force sensitivity is left completely out.
 * 48) **Mhm. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg (Imperial Intelligence)  17:18, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 49) * "presumably killed" is speculation. Only say what is known.
 * 50) **Yep. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg (Imperial Intelligence)  17:18, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 51) * Taris has a "main city?" I thought Taris was a city.
 * 52) **Sorted. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  17:18, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 53) * Again, something like "no known family members" is out-of-universe and speculation.
 * 54) **Removed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  17:18, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 55) * Linking needs to be more thorough.
 * 56) **Hm. Could you point out generally where, please? -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  17:18, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 57) * Rakghoul disease needs context in the bio.
 * 58) **Done. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  17:18, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 59) * Second paragraph of the bio needs to be broken up; it's a mishmash of not-yet-converged storylines.
 * 60) **Yep. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  17:18, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 61) * How Shan was on Taris should be provided.
 * 62) **Provided. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  17:18, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 63) * "Which option Revan took was unknown, as neither results in a change of alignment. The nature of the conversation afterwards, unless Revan threatened Zelka, was such that it did not change the plot nor the character's alignment, therefore it's undetermined if Revan ever discovered the soldiers." – This is all pretty unnecessary. You can sum it up by stating that later sources which canonized the light-side path don't mention Forn or the medical facility.
 * 64) **Yep. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  17:18, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 65) * What exactly is meant by "one thousand and fifteen hundred credits?"
 * 66) **Whoops, addressed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  17:18, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 67) * Graestan ( Talk ) 17:14, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * 68) Bumrushin' the Show with IFYLOFD:
 * 69) * City of Taris? Do you mean the planet?
 * 70) **Fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  07:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 71) * Sith government? Was it really a government? Better wording could be used here.
 * 72) **Fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  07:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 73) * Give more information on the rakghoul disease in the bio.
 * 74) **Fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  07:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 75) * Give more info on Revan and the circumstances of his amnesia.
 * 76) **Fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  07:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 77) * Quote for the P&T?
 * 78) **Fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  10:25, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 79) * IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 00:43, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 80) Attack of the Clone
 * 81) * "In his standing and position as a doctor": redundant; choose one or the other.
 * 82) **Fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  07:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 83) * "Forn would not refuse help to anyone, regardless of their homeworld, species, political affiliation, personality, or even if he hated them on a personal level": the last one stands out with the lack of a noun; please reword.
 * 84) **Fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  07:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 85) * "medically help or assist": I reworded it to this, but "help" and "assist" are redundant, and "medically" also makes the wording awkward.
 * 86) **Fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  07:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 87) * "and individuals brought in several Republic soldiers": unclear; what were the individuals' affiliation?
 * 88) **Fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  07:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 89) * "even with the possibility of being arrested or even shot": unclear as to who he would be punished by, and the wording is a bit awkward as well.
 * 90) **Fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  07:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 91) * Awkward wording that Forn was upset about the plague; try to word to something clearer.
 * 92) **Fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  07:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 93) * "Revan arrived at Forn's facility and convinced him to show them the Republic soldiers, by declaring their loyalty to the Republic." Revan convinced Forn to show who the soldiers?
 * 94) **Fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  07:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 95) * What information did Revan agree not to disclose?
 * 96) **Fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  07:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 97) * "Although Forn was originally fearful that Revan would betray him, Revan proved him wrong." Sounds strange never mentioning this before; try to move it up. If it happens here, please make it clearer.
 * 98) **Fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  07:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 99) * Why was Revan's alliance with the Republic a problem for Forn and/or his decision?
 * 100) **Fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  07:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 101) ***Please check this again. Do you meant, "Allied with the Sith as he was, Revan was in favor of Forn’s choice."? Forn's choice was in favor of the Republic, and this wording makes it sound like Revan was allied with the Sith. Please clear this up.  CC7567  (talk) 07:39, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 102) * "Revan refused, however, believing Forn needed them more than he and his companions did." Please replace "them" with something more specific.
 * 103) **Fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  07:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 104) * "even if they were an off-worlder, alien, or even if he hated them": same issue with the different elements not matching; please try to reword.
 * 105) **Fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  07:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 106) * "Forn considered Revan's spirit very noble": builds too much off of each other using "spirit".
 * 107) **Fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  07:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 108) * "for its work on making a Rakghoul serum before it was taken by the Sith": awkward wording.
 * 109) **Fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  07:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 110) * "the light side choices are those chosen canonically": do you mean that "the light side choices are canonical"?
 * 111) **Fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  07:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 112) * "Although canon dictates that the most light side choices would have to be taken": bit unclear; please check and/or clarify.
 * 113) **Fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  07:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 114) * Are dark side points bad? It sounds like it from the use of "however"; please check.
 * 115) **Fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  07:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 116) * CC7567  (talk) 18:42, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 117) A little expansion on how Revan got Forn to show him the Republic soldiers would be appreciated. Wasn't there several dialogue options, or the option to bypass the door locks? -  Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 14:45, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 118) *Addressed in IRC. - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 10:24, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 119) Toprawa:
 * 120) *Intro objections:
 * 121) **This needs better and more context. For example, when did he arrive? What year? Perhaps why is he arriving? Doesn't have to go into any great detail, but don't assume the average reader automatically knows what's going on: "When the former Sith Lord Revan, in service to the Galactic Republic after having his memory erased, arrived on Taris" Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:39, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * For obvious reasons, I'll withhold my vote until some feedback comes. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  15:54, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You're not meant to vote for your own noms. We got rid of that in the GA system revamp. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 04:28, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Vote to remove nomination (AC only)

 * 1)  Only one unaddressed objection remaining, yes, but one that's been sitting here for over three weeks. This isn't getting a lot of activity, and unless there's something done soon, it needs to go.  CC7567  (talk) 02:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) *My bad; miscounted the weeks. It's only been two, but I still think it needs to be addressed soon.  CC7567  (talk) 02:48, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) **Noticing Floyd's unaddressed objection, I'm going to have to reinstate my vote. With so many current GANs, the tolerance for inactivity is becoming lower.  CC7567  (talk) 04:53, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) *I apologize; I've only just noticed Floyd's outstanding objection. Unfortunately, I won't be able to address it until Sunday afternoon, as I won't even be on site until then. If you feel the need to remove the nom then I'm dissapointed but I understand. If you could, however, give me a little more time, seeing as I didn't realize, I'd appreciate it. :) -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  06:42, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Malevolence

 * Nominated by:  JangFett  Talk 01:26, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Ah, finally it is done :)

(0 ACs/1 Users/1 Total)
Support
 * 1) --Clone Commander Lee 18:31, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Object > JangFett  Talk 01:45, 1 July 2009 (UTC) > JangFett  Talk 22:05, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Preliminaries
 * 2) *Before I give it a complete review or even a copyedit, there are several general things that need to be fixed:
 * 3) * First of all, there's still the sourcing error that I mentioned to you before. I don't know why, but there are multiple refs for the same source. Also, Ref is being unnecessarily used in the body when it's only meant for the infobox.
 * 4) **Addressed and yes I noticed that as well. Im going around and fixing all the ref tags and fining more than 1 reliable source.
 * 5) ***Fixed
 * 6) **** I don't see the Ref tags being used at all in the infobox, when they should be. Please correct this.  CC7567  (talk) 18:36, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) *****Nevermind, I took care of this myself. However, Shadow of Malevolence wasn't a source for the warship being able to carry 144 Vulture droids. Please find the proper source.  CC7567  (talk) 21:46, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) * Refs need to come after periods and commas.
 * 9) **Addressed
 * 10) * There's a lack of sourcing throughout the article, particularly in the Abregado and Ryndellia sections.
 * 11) **Addressed
 * 12) ***Please check again. There are several instances in which the same source is used following two sentences. Not every single sentence has to be sourced unless it's a different sourced; otherwise, the source needs to come at the end of the paragraph. Also, it's going to be hard for me to review this until the above objection about the Ref tags is fixed.
 * 13) ****This still remains. Not every sentence needs to be sourced unless it has a separate source.
 * 14) *****Ill fix this issue.
 * 15) *The intro requires severe expansion. Two sentences will not suffice for the article.
 * 16) **Addressed :)
 * 17) ***And now the intro is way too long. Please cut it down. Just because two sentences won't suffice doesn't mean that the intro needs to be a third of the article's length.
 * 18) ****Fixed.
 * 19) *****I believe the intro can still be cut down. The battles in the intro only need to mention the direct effect on the Malevolence, i.e. it was revealed to the Republic following the Battle of Abregado.  CC7567  (talk) 20:06, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 20) ******Ill cut it down some more and add more detail of the ship's battle damage
 * 21) *******Addressed
 * 22) ********It can still be cut down more. The section about Phu in particular reads more like a summary of the battle than the warship itself, as do the other battles. One or two sentences at most will suffice for Phu. Also, there are a lot of grammatical errors; please try to catch them if you can.  CC7567  (talk) 17:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 23) *********I think the first section of the intro is fine. If I go and add more about the battle, it will just get to lengthy
 * 24) **********I didn't say that it needed to be expanded. I said that it still needs to be shortened. The first section of the intro is too choppy, for one.  CC7567  (talk) 20:12, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 25) ***********Addressed and discussed in IRC a few times. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * 1) * The Characteristics section needs to be expanded. Everything mentioned in the infobox needs to also be here as well.
 * 2) **Addressed and section renamed to "Description"
 * 3) ***I'll go through this with you more later.
 * 4) * The History needs to include the creation of the Malevolence; it currently appears that the ship's origins are in the Characteristics for an unknown reason.
 * 5) **Addressed
 * 6) ***Also, mentioning that the warship's existence became known in the "Rise" is unnecessary. Simply say it in the Battle of Phu.
 * 7) ****Ill fix it
 * 8) *****Blatantly stating that it was first spotted in the Battle of Phu isn't the best way to go; there's no buildup. Also, it wasn't spotted by the Republic until Abregado, as there were no survivors of Phu.  CC7567  (talk) 18:36, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) ******Addressed
 * 10) * In general, please make sure the article follows the Manual of Style and the Layout Guide, particularly the latter. "Characteristics" should be "Description", and a "Commanders and crew" section is also required.
 * 11) **Seeing their is no GA/FA article that has a commander/crew section Example, I didn't create one. The Infobox has a section for the list of commanders/crew. I addressed the Description and will expand it.
 * 12) ***Upon seeing the Executor article, Ill create a commander section.  JangFett  Talk 18:14, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 13) ****Fixed and added sources for the commander section.
 * 14) * Grievous didn't destroy "dozens of task forces" between Ryndellia and the Kaliida Nebula, as you've so mentioned. Also, it was Dooku himself that gave Grievous the order to target the medical station; that needs to be in there.
 * 15) **Didn't write that part but Ill rewrite it :)
 * 16) ***And now, for some reason, it's unnecessarily mentioned (and linked) twice in both Ryndellia and the Kaliida Nebula sections. Please fix this.
 * 17) ****Fixed
 * 18) *For better examples on what the article should look like by the time it's finished, please see the current FA and GA ship articles.
 * 19) *Good luck. I'll take another look once these have been addressed.  CC7567  (talk) 07:04, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 20) **Thanks CC :)  JangFett  Talk 16:14, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 21) * Also, please check the sources available to you and see if you can get specifics on the warship's size, specifically for its length. If you don't have access to them, I would recommend trying to find users who do.  CC7567  (talk) 07:11, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 22) **Addressed. This was discussed last night in the IRC channel. From TCW: Decoded, they said it was roughly 5m.
 * 23) ***TCW:Shadow of Malevolence was listed as a source for it's listed length in the article. No character in that episode spoke about any specific description about it's length, but the decoded episode did however.
 * 24) ****I meant to check the printed references such as the Visual Guide and Campaign Guide. I'll let this pass for now, but I would suggest trying to obtain access to them, as you might need them to check the credibility of current information in the article.  CC7567  (talk) 19:17, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 25) A bit more for now
 * 26) * A better quote can be found for the Battle of Phu. This one-word quote isn't the most appropriate one; try to check HoloNet News — A Galaxy Divided if you can. Not every single quote has to come from Grievous.
 * 27) **Addressed
 * 28) * The Kaliida Shoals Medical Center is being linked and unnecessarily mentioned twice in both the Battle of Ryndellia and the Battle of the Kaliida Nebula, and I'm seeing this as an effect of copy/pasting the Battle of Ryndellia into the article. Please go through the article again and check for errors like this. The article can still be written more from the perspective of the warship. Not to the point where the article is biased, but the battles' effects on the ship need to be expanded a great deal.
 * 29) **I've managed to remove those multiple links and rewrote a few sentences in the beginning.
 * 30) ***There's still more work required for this.  CC7567  (talk) 18:36, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 31) * There's a great deal of overlinking throughout the article. Other articles should only be linked when they first appear, not several times throughout the article. This applies separately to the intro and body.
 * 32) **Addressed
 * 33) * Please check that you use last names throughout the whole article. Full names need to be used when first mentioned, but after that, use only last names. You use "Obi-Wan" in the intro at least once when you fist link him.
 * 34) **Addressed
 * 35) * "The destruction of the Malevolence by crashing into a moon echoes the fate of the Executor by falling into the second Death Star's gravity field, as well as the dispute over its size." This is original research, and unless it was confirmed to be inspiration for the Malevolence, it needs to go.
 * 36) **Addressed
 * 37) * Just from rereading the Characteristics section, I'm noticing a lot of grammatical errors. Please go through the article scrupulously and do another check. Perhaps reading the article out loud will help you.  CC7567  (talk) 19:17, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 38) **Addressed
 * 39) * A better picture can be found for the Battle of Abregado, perhaps one showing the Malevolence instead of its effects.  CC7567  (talk) 20:06, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 40) **Im going to capture HD quality screenshots of Grievous for the commander section as well as the Abregado image.
 * 41) ***You can already check existing images from the episode. This image would be suitable.  CC7567  (talk) 20:29, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 42) ****Addressed and replaced/added images.
 * 43) * The fact that Dooku was the one who told his master to send Amidala to the nebula is unconfirmed. It's more of an assumption; it isn't known on whose orders Palpatine was acting, unless you can find a source that explicitly states it so.
 * 44) **Addressed
 * 45) ***Please just remove it; "possibly" is speculation, and speculation has absolutely no place in articles unless it has an official basis.
 * 46) ****Addressed
 * 47) * I'm going to simply ask you to rewrite the battle parts of the article. I'm still seeing a great deal of copying from the battle articles, and while yes, it does encompass most of the important details, it's not professional and it isn't original. The article can still be written a great deal more from the aspect of the warship itself.  CC7567  (talk) 18:36, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 48) **Addressed
 * 49) ***No, there's still a lot of unnecessary info in there. Is it really necessary to include the news report when you can simply say that Koon began to search for the warship? In the Abregado section, there's zero buildup to Koon's rescue, and it's not clearly stated. And I'm still not seeing much of a change overall. When I mean rewrite, I mean that you need to change the article so that it doesn't look like you copy/pasted directly from the battle articles, which it still appears that you did.  CC7567  (talk) 17:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 50) ****Addressed
 * 51) *****I'm still seeing a lot of places lacking change. For certain parts, I can still tell that it's the exact wording from the battle articles, and it still doesn't expand on the warship's effects. If you still need help with this, I'll point out the specifics.  CC7567  (talk) 06:03, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 52) ******"Ryndellia Conflict", "Battle of Abregado", and the intro have been fixed. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * 1) Attack of the Clone number...whatever we're on
 * 2) * In the intro, I would establish notable details of its size and features before jumping into its history. You can say that it was longer than five Jedi cruisers, and that it was equipped with two ion cannons that allowed it to disable its prey's shields, leaving its targets vulnerable to turbolaser fire.
 * 3) **Addressed
 * 4) *"First spotted by Republic forces around 22 BBY by Jedi General Ares Nune and Clone Commander Kite in the Phu system. The battle was the first time the massive Malevolence used its ion pulse cannons to disable an enemy fleet. The battle resulted as a major CIS victory due to the deaths of Nune and Kite and their fleet. The overwhelmed Jedi took note on the Separatists' new deadly superweapon." A few things:
 * 5) ** First of all, the first sentence is extremely choppy. In fact, all of the sentences are. Please read the next objection and then try to merge them accordingly.
 * 6) ** Please cut these sentences down. All that needs to be said of the Battle of Phu is that it was the first battle the Malevolence was in, and that it disabled Jedi General Ares Nune's fleet with its ion cannons. You can say that Plo Koon then led a search for the Malevolence, but please try to keep it short and to-the-point.
 * 7) ** A lot of this is simply redundant.
 * 8) ***All addressed.
 * 9) ** "Grievous ordered to use the massive ion cannons for the first time and thus destroying Kit's fleet." The way you're using "ordered" doesn't work without Grievous ordering someone or something. Please fix this. If you want, you can word it like "Grievous ordered the ship's massive ion cannons to be used". Also, this isn't officially proven to be the very first time the Malevolence used its ion cannons; if I remember correctly, it had already begun terrorizing Republic fleets before Phu. That doesn't mean that Phu couldn't have been the first time they were used; it's possible, but it's unknown, so speculating that it is is simply that&mdash;speculation. Please try to word around it.  CC7567  (talk) 19:21, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) ***Addressed and reworded. Removed speculation as well.
 * 11) * I know I said earlier that all that needed to be said for Abregado in the intro was that the Malevolence was revealed to the Republic, but please try to elaborate a tad, i.e. that it was revealed to the Republic after it destroyed Koon's fleet.
 * 12) **Addressed
 * 13) * "Several Pelta-class frigates were fleeing the Ryndellia system. The massive Malevolence destroyed all frigates and one Venator-class Star Destroyer that was escorting the frigates." Again, please shorten this; since it's the intro, you only have to say that the Malevolence destroyed a Republic medical convoy on its way to Kaliida Shoals.
 * 14) **Addressed
 * 15) ***"While attempting to retreat to the medcenter, several Pelta-class frigates were destroyed by the Malevolence." This isn't factually correct, and it's still too long; I still recommend simply saying a "Republic medical convoy".  CC7567  (talk) 19:21, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 16) ****I'm having trouble with wording this. I have replaced the "attempting to retreat" with "flee". Other than that, addressed.
 * 17) * Can you get it in earlier that Skywalker sabotaged the Malevolence ' s hyperdrive before it actually malfunctions?
 * 18) **Addressed
 * 19) * "The battle droids stationed on the Malevolence noticed that the hyperdrive has been fixed." It wasn't fixed, so they can't "notice" that it was. You can say that they believed it to be fixed.
 * 20) **Addressed
 * 21) * "After the ion cannon had disabled an enemy warship, approximately 500 turbolasers were mounted on the ship's enormous hull to fire upon the disabled vessel to it's destruction." First of all, nothing can be "fired to its destruction". While I'm at it, please check your usage of contractions; unless you mean "fire upon the disabled vessel to it is destruction", that apostrophe shouldn't be there. Please check your apostrophe and contraction usage throughout the article.
 * 22) **Addressed and removed the statement to make the sentence seem clearer to the reader.
 * 23) ***I'm striking all but the apostrophe usage; I'll check this as I go along in future reviews.
 * 24) * "Designed with an internal rail jet system, a hover train that transported ammunition, supplies and sometimes troops throughout the ship." This isn't a sentence by itself; there's no correctly placed subject and verb in there. Please check this. Also, I'm starting to notice this choppiness throughout the article, so please do another check for similar things so I don't have to object to the same thing over and over.
 * 25) **Addressed
 * 26) ***Again, the last unstricken part I will be checking as I go along.  CC7567  (talk) 19:21, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 27) * "At least 1 pod hunter was also boarded": this doesn't make sense; nothing can be "boarded" in the way that you're using the word. Also, you need to establish that "pod hunter" was a nickname for the Droch-class boarding ship; it's not clear right now. Also, I would recommend adding in the rocket battle droids here to make it clearer what the "hunters" were.
 * 28) **Addressed
 * 29) * Are you sure that the Malevolence appeared in the TCW novel? Please refer me to the page it's on. Also, if it does appear, I don't see any info from it in the article.
 * 30) **No, it was not. Addressed
 * 31) * Why were Kite and Nune in the Phu system?
 * 32) **Addressed in both the intro and body.
 * 33) * I would recommend noting the discrepancies as noted in refnotes in the Battle of Phu and Laudable; while it was confirmed in the web comic that the Malevolence used its ion cannons to destroy the fleet, Kite and Nune did indeed try to escape first, per the HoloNet News podcast.
 * 34) **Addressed
 * 35) * "Grievous ordered the Malevolence to leave the system as Republic reinforcements might arrive, thus confirming the first victory for the Separatists' new superweapon." Please source this properly; this didn't appear in either the web comic or the podcast.
 * 36) **Then it was a speculation. Removed.
 * 37) * "The Confederate Head of State, the Sith Lord Count Dooku": there's too much context in there that detracts from sentence flow; please cut it down.
 * 38) **Addressed
 * 39) * "Dooku was not impressed by Grievous's efforts, and if those pods escaped, the Republic would learn of their ion cannon." The episode gave no evidence that Dooku was displeased with Grievous at this point, and the sentence is overall phrased badly. Yes, if the pods escaped and the survivors survived, the Republic would learn of the Malevolence. So what did Dooku do? Since the transition to the next paragraph isn't very good, I would just recommend adding it here that the pod hunters were deployed.
 * 40) **Addressed
 * 41) * "to seek enemies that had jettisoned in escape pods": since we know just who those "enemies" were, please reword this.
 * 42) **Addressed
 * 43) * "Following the rescue of Koon and the surviving clones, all of Plo Koon's forces except for a few clones and the Jedi himself had been killed." You've already stated that the battle droids destroyed all but Koon's pod, so this is redundant.
 * 44) **Addressed
 * 45) * "However, Koon, Skywalker, and Tano were able to give a report to the Jedi Council on the Malevolence, and the Republic learned of the warship and its ion cannons." There's absolutely no mention of the Twilight ' s encounter with the Malevolence, and that was quite an important aspect; please add it in.
 * 46) **Addressed
 * 47) * I would suggest changing the "Ryndellia conflict" quote; it's not even related to the Battle of Ryndellia.
 * 48) **Addressed
 * 49) * The Venator-class cruiser opened fire on the Malevolence? Really? I'm quite doubtful that happened; please check the episode.
 * 50) **Indeed it didn't. Addressed.
 * 51) * "However, Grievous showed no mercy and attacked the Venator-class cruiser and the frigates with its numerous laser cannons." So the "numerous laser cannons" belonged to Grievous? Please reword.
 * 52) **Haha. My mistake, Addressed.
 * 53) * "and showed Dooku that Grievous had learned from his mistake at the Battle of Abregado": this isn't very coherent, and it's not factually correct; Grievous's confidence was boosted because he believed that Dooku was showing faith in him. Please reword.
 * 54) **Addressed
 * 55) *I'm up to "Destruction of the Malevolence", but I'll leave you with these for now. Again, please try to pay attention to overlinking, underlinking, and tense problems; I've encountered all so far while copyediting.  CC7567  (talk) 03:20, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 56) **Okay. I'll look over that section as well as linking, grammatical issues.
 * 57) * Also, since you've used the quote from A Galaxy Divided as the leading quote, I would recommend adding to the "Description" (for its size) or at least to the "History" section that those people debated the warship's size.  CC7567  (talk) 03:21, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 58) **Addressed
 * 59) The attack continues
 * 60) * "En route to the medical facility, Dooku contacted Grievous through a hologram transmission, and received word from Darth Sidious that the Republic had launched a small group of fighters to attack the Malevolence." This isn't chronologically correct; it sounds like Dooku received word from Sidious after he had contacted Grievous.
 * 61) **Addressed
 * 62) *"Grievous noticed that the Malevolence ' s hyperdrive was not fast, and had to arrive before Republic reinforcements do." I don't see why this is here for numerous reasons. Grievous himself was frustrated with the warship's speed, yes, but it needs to be phrased more from the perspective of the warship, i.e. "Grievous noted that the Malevolence was slower than he had been informed". Also, the second part of the sentence isn't coherent at all, especially due to tense issues.
 * 63) **Addressed
 * 64) ***Please check this again; I would encourage you to put what I suggested or something similar.  CC7567  (talk) 23:49, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 65) *" that could be fast enough to evade the Malevolence ' s ion cannons": could be is not clear; there are no circumstances mentioned. Please just reword it.
 * 66) **Addressed
 * 67) * There's a rather severe lack of the launching of Vulture droids during the Battle of the Kaliida Nebula, and in general, there's a lot of details missing about the battle. Please just rewatch the episode to make sure you have everything in there.
 * 68) **Addressed and added droid attack. I didn't want to add more detail of Skywalker's attack because that will change the perspective.
 * 69) * "Kenobi and his fleet joined Skywalker's forces and kept firing at the disabled Malevolence." If Kenobi and his fleet just arrived, they can't "keep" firing when they haven't even started.
 * 70) **Addressed
 * 71) * In the second paragraph of the Battle of the Kaliida Nebula, please nix all the word redundancy. Also, it can overall be phrased better, as it's unclear how Sidious got Amidala to go to the nebula. I realize that it isn't directly related to the Malevolence, but it's overall unclear with a severe lack of detail. Check the battle's article if you have problems doing this.
 * 72) **Addressed
 * 73) ***Check below for more stuff related to this.  CC7567  (talk) 23:49, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 74) * Again, there's a great deal of detail missing in the third paragraph of the battle. Either rewatch the episode, look at the battle article, look at the episode guide, or do all three. If you still need help, please tell me and I'll point out what's missing, but I'd prefer if you can find the missing details yourself.
 * 75) **Addressed
 * 76) *"caused it to jump into a nearby moon": too colloquial and unclear. Furthermore, it didn't "hit" the moon until much later; it went toward the moon.
 * 77) **Addressed
 * 78) ***Now there's absolutely no mention of the moon at all.  CC7567  (talk) 23:49, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 79) * "Battle droids assumed full responsibility for maintaining and controlling the bridge." If they have "full responsibility" for anything, they would be answering to Dooku. Please rephrase.
 * 80) **Addressed
 * 81) *Please replace "shaken" for Grievous's relations to the battle droids; it's not clear in this case.
 * 82) **Addressed
 * 83) ***Still remains.  CC7567  (talk) 19:13, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 84) * "Count Dooku was on board at the time of the Battle of Abregado and acted as a adviser for Grievous, and served as another commander." Slight run-on, please reword.
 * 85) **Addressed
 * 86) *The Bts needs to include more regarding the ship's appearances. Also, are you sure you've checked every single relevant source for new information?
 * 87) **I checked the New Essential Chronologically, and it had minor details of the warship, but it was just a design.
 * 88) ***If the NEC has something, even if it's a design, mention it.  CC7567  (talk) 23:49, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 89) * The Art of Revenge of the Sith is listed as a source; however, from what I can tell, there's no information from it in the article. Please check it.
 * 90) **Addressed
 * 91) *The last sentence of the second Bts paragraph is a run-on and lacks good phrasing.
 * 92) *Jang, the article still requires more work for it to be ready. I would suggest rewatching the episodes and noting relevant details to the ship. However, I'm still noticing numerous tense issues and spelling errors throughout the article, and I highly urge you to be more careful in the future. You should be able to catch both of these problems on your own, or you should at least be using Microsoft Word or a similar program to check your spelling. As for the tense issues, the only reason they are there is because of a lack of proofreading, and no word processing program I know can correct them for you.  CC7567  (talk) 00:11, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 93) *Please vary "disabled".  CC7567  (talk) 19:13, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 94) Continuing
 * 95) *"Vulture droid left the Malevolence and attacked the Republic group. While attacking Skywalker's bombers, Grievous ordered the battle droids to fire the ion cannon on the approaching group." First off, please vary "attacking", and second, these sentences are rather choppy. Please try to merge them.
 * 96) *"However, the Republic squadron managed to damage the two heavy ion cannons, causing them to overload and explode. The Malevolence ' s hyperdrive was also disabled from the effects of the damaged ion cannons." Same issue of choppiness.
 * 97) *"Sidious, using his alter ego of Supreme Chancellor Palpatine, sent Padmé Amidala and her protocol droid, C-3PO, whom were to negotiate with the IBC officials for a peace treaty that would lead them to leave the CIS." This is simply incoherent. You can't use "the" because you haven't named the IBC officials, "whom" is not being used correctly, and "lead them to leave the CIS" is unclear. Please reword.
 * 98) *You say that Amidala was first "captured" by the tractor beam, but then evaded "capture" by destroying her ship, and this is rather unclear.
 * 99) *"The senator fled the area when Grievous and his entourage approached the transmission box." ...No, she didn't; it's factually incorrect. She waited for them to pass and then headed for the rail jet.
 * 100) *"Battle droids were stationed around the internal rail jet room during the departure of Grievous, who left on a rail cart inside the room." It wasn't clear in the episode when they arrived; I would suggest mentioning them when they attack Amidala and the Jedi. This will also help the lack of a mention of the battle droids attacking them in the following paragraph.
 * 101) *Please vary "rail jet room"; you don't have to try and find synonyms, but please find something else to use.
 * 102) *Please watch your excessive usage of "soon" and "then"; they're giving an unnecessary sense of chronology.
 * 103) *"Kenobi soon left the rail jet room and damaged the hyperdrive further near the guarded reactor room." ...No, he didn't; I don't know where you got this from, but Grievous confronted Kenobi before he could do anything. Also, please provide a source (or your reasoning) that says there was a "reactor room".
 * 104) *I'd like to see more detail on the battle. That doesn't mean writing it like the Battle of the Kaliida Nebula, but you should at least say that Skywalker and Amidala fought battle droids on the way to the bridge.
 * 105) *I realize that a lot of my objections are falling under, but addressing them will teach you more about what's expected of an article to meet GAN standards. I'm going to again recommend that you take a look at the article for both overlinking and underlinking; I'm still noticing both, and I want you to be able to find them without me asking you to.  CC7567  (talk) 23:49, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * I'll review the rest later.  CC7567  (talk) 19:13, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Billal Batross

 * Nominated by:  Mauser  Comlink 14:33, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: My first ever attempt to do a GA. Thanks to CC7567 for a pre-nom review.

(3 ACs/1 Users/4 Total)
Support
 * 1)  CC7567  (talk) 18:48, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 05:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 3)  Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 08:21, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) Good work.  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 20:01, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Preliminaries
 * 2) * For now, can the intro be slimmed down? It's still a bit long. Try to only include details that are utterly necessary to the reader's very basic understanding of the character.  CC7567  (talk) 22:00, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) **I managed to make it a bit slimmer, but I'm not sure if anything else could be cut - it already tells only the very basics of the story.  Mauser  Comlink 07:14, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) ***I guess that's fine for now; if I end up disagreeing again in future looks, I'll talk it over with you.
 * 5) * One more for now: "and were offered by Captain Taavin to help bring down Sollima in exchange for the release": check your diction of "offered"; that's not how the word is used. Please go through the article again and look for this; I'm still seeing it in multiple places, and it's not making sense. Also, "bring down" is too colloquial and not very specific; please clarify this.  CC7567  (talk) 07:22, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) **Yeah, that's my bad. I'm not a native english-speaker =\  Mauser  Comlink 09:48, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) Clone attack
 * 8) * "so he asked to retrieve the droid": subject missing somewhere in there; it's not reading well.
 * 9) **Adressed.
 * 10) ***Please check this again; the current wording states that Batross asked Sollima if the crime lord could retrieve the droid himself.  CC7567  (talk) 00:07, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) ****Tweaked.
 * 12) * "Since the orders were to bring the droid back intact, the Aleena ordered to shoot them": who did he order?
 * 13) **Adressed.
 * 14) * "All the wealth, however, was soon afterward snatched away from him." Soon and afterward are slightly redundant here; I would suggest replacing both with "later" or a similar word.
 * 15) **Adressed.
 * 16) * In the refnote about Batross' "deceptive nature," can you explain a bit how the events were presented? Just knowing Batross' deceptive nature isn't enough to determine that they possibly never took place.
 * 17) **I am unsure about this one. The trick is, during the same conversation he directly lies at least twice (about being proud of Han's achievements and about being willing to change), so the reader obviously suspects a catch with that claim. Furthermore, when Han asks Batross about the money he gained, he says that "rotten luck snatched it away", which makes the reader even more suspicious. I think the fact alone that he lies to Han several times throughout the whole story is enough for not believing his words without proof. Should I add all this to the ref note?
 * 18) ***My concern was that I wasn't sure which appearance or source it came from; sorry for not clarifying. As long as it's specified that this was in the comic, it should be fine.  CC7567  (talk) 00:07, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 19) ****Tweaked the ref note a bit.
 * 20) * If you say "the representatives of the Empire," it needs to be stated which specific representatives they were. If you mean representatives in general, please remove the "the".
 * 21) **Adressed.
 * 22) * "he asked to retrieve the droid": please check this whole sentence; it's not making sense.
 * 23) **Adressed.
 * 24) ***Everything is fine except for the wording problem that I mentioned in the response to the objection above about "asked".  CC7567  (talk) 00:07, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 25) ****Tweaked.
 * 26) * "Captain Taavin of the Empire then ordered to release both prisoners": who did he order to release them?
 * 27) **Adressed.
 * 28) * "According to Taavin's plan": rewording can be applied here; things are normally "according" to people, not necessarily inanimate objects.
 * 29) **Adressed.
 * 30) * "relatively intact": instead of stating it this way, I would recommend saying "with minor injures" or something for better clarity.
 * 31) **Adressed.
 * 32) *I'm up to "Escape from the Hollow Moon"; I'll finish later when I get the chance.  CC7567  (talk) 20:07, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 33) **Again, thanks for your patience.  Mauser  Comlink 09:36, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 34) ***It's no problem; we all have to start somewhere, and your first nom is looking quite good. :)  CC7567  (talk) 00:07, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 35) Attack of the Clone III
 * 36) * "Realizing that the invasion of his world was unpreventable, Sollima, in a desperate attempt, asked Batross to kill his friend for a large sum of money, but Batross refused, stating that he and Solo were partners." This sentence is a bit choppy with the extra prepositional phrase (in a desperate attempt); please try to either smooth out the flow or remove the phrase if it can't be improved.
 * 37) **I found that bit unnecessary.
 * 38) * Solo threatened Sollima for Chewie's whereabouts, but did he get them? I know it's implied, but it needs to be clarified.
 * 39) **Adressed.
 * 40) * "he decided that he would become the third member": it's either he believed that he would become the third member, or that he wanted to become the third member; the current wording isn't really working.
 * 41) **Tweaked.
 * 42) * "Leading a life of a gambler, a con artist and an occasional thief": this is technically grammatically correct, but it's a bit choppy; can it be reworded?
 * 43) **I did a rewording, but if fact I don't like it myself. See how's that with you.
 * 44) * Solo's "incredible luck" is a bit POV-oriented; if it's stated, examples need to be given and it needs to be more specific.
 * 45) **It is indirectly stated by Batross when he complains about his own luck (P&T quote), but I decided to remove that, since it does indeed look like POV.
 * 46) * "such as the crime lords Sollima and Imperial officer Taavin": please check subject/plural agreement here.
 * 47) **Adressed.
 * 48) *I'll probably look it over once more after these objections are fixed, but good work.  CC7567  (talk) 00:07, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 49) **Ah, mesa not so good with englishes. =(  Mauser  Comlink 07:36, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 50) Final stand
 * 51) * It doesn't seem likely that Taavin would have to "ask" them to double-cross Sollima; since they were apparently desperate to get out, they would have wanted to do anything to be freed. I think better word choice can be used here. Perhaps something to do with "agreed", but if that word is used, the sentence will need to be reworded.
 * 52) **Tweaked, both in bio and the intro.
 * 53) * When he was being tortured by Sollima's thugs and at first refused to accompany Batross, did Solo want to simply undertake the mission himself? The current wording implies that, but also implies that Solo didn't want to do anything with Batross, and therefore avoid doing the mission altogether. This needs to be clarified.
 * 54) **Actually, it's unclear. The exact quote is: "No, no, no, no. No way. No deal. Solly - find someone else." It isn't specified if Han was asking to find someone else in his place, or in place of Batross.
 * 55) * "Solo transmitted the landing code received from Sollima": when exactly did they get the landing code? It's a bit unclear. If it wasn't specified, the wording needs to be more neutral so that it doesn't sound like it's speculating.
 * 56) **Addressed.
 * 57) * Specifically what is Solo's "skill" in the P&T? General, or skill in a specific field?
 * 58) **Adressed.
 * 59) * "Powerful individuals" needs to be specified; right now, it's slightly POV. If it were to be "individuals wielding great power", it might work better, but it needs to be clarified specifically what kind of power they held.
 * 60) **I choose to remove that bit completely.
 * 61) *It's almost there, Mauser, and it's looking very good. :)  CC7567  (talk) 23:34, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 62) Soresu
 * 63) * the Aleena ordered to shoot them. Doesn't flow very well.
 * 64) **Adressed.
 * 65) * gave the prisoners a choice: stand trial for sabotage and treason against the Empire, conflicts with As the only alternative for the accomplices was going to prison. Wasn't the alternative trial?
 * 66) **The Imperial Captain says that if they refuse to co-operate, they will stand trial, but adds that they'll spend the rest of their lives as sellmates. So, I choose to use different wordings in the intro and the bio. Do you think I should change one of them?
 * 67) ***No, it's fine. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 05:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 68) * Batross activated a bomb hidden inside the droid's head and threw it at two of the gangster's bodyguards, both of whom were killed in the explosion. Both Humans and the Aleena. Both is a little repetitive.
 * 69) **Adressed.
 * 70) *Looks like CC got most of the minor things. Very well done, Mauser. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 10:30, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 71) **Thanks for the review ;)  Mauser  Comlink 10:58, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 72) ***Anytime. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 05:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 73) Just one thing: "Arbra amongst the Hoojibs." Could you give a little context on Arbra in the intro? Is it just osme random planet? Otherwise, nice work.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 15:07, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 74) *Changed it in the intro, left as it was in the P&T. Reason: context for Arbra is already given in the body (the last sentence of the bio says that Hoojibs were native to the planet and for Batross that is enough).  Mauser  Comlink 15:45, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 75) Just one: In the intro, what debt did Han owe to Billal, and why couldn't he return it? This is unclear.  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 00:14, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 76) *You probably mean Sollima, not Billal, right? The line is "Solo also owed Sollima a debt he could not return." This is unspecified in the story, like the bio says, he is just caught in Simbars and has no money to return. I changed that line a bit though. Thanks for the review.  Mauser  Comlink 09:33, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 77) **Oops, yeah, I meant Sollima :P. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 20:01, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * A note: the article's at c. 2,600 words, so it's within the GAN word count limit of 3,000.  CC7567  (talk) 20:23, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll take another look when I get the chance, but solid work. :)  CC7567  (talk) 07:44, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Sacking of Coruscant

 * Nominated by: Darth Trayus  Sith_Emblem.svg ( Trayus Academy ) 21:49, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Bring it on.

(1 ACs/5 Users/6 Total)
Support
 * --Gbadude3 02:20, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * 1)  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 02:42, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 2)  CC7567  (talk) 23:58, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 00:36, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) Great1 ( Talk ) 00:45, 20 June 2009 (EST)
 * 5) Very good work!--Jedi Kasra (talk) 14:34, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) Reviewed yesterday, forgot to support. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  15:01, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Floyd makes his return to the GAN:
 * 2) * "Although members of the Jedi Order and Republic Special Forces attempted to defend their capital, the Sith forces overwhelmed them, and by the time the fighting had ended, the Jedi Temple had been reduced to rubble, with six members of the Jedi Council killed, along with the Supreme Chancellor of the Republic." Overly long sentence with too many commas. Break it up and/or reword.
 * 3) **Split and reworded.
 * 4) * "The treaty was highly unfair for the Republic, calling for the immediate withdrawal of all Republic forces and Jedi from all battlefronts." Uses "all" twice. Vary up your word choice.
 * 5) **Addressed...kinda. It sounds weird to me. Thoughts?
 * 6) ***No, it's good now.
 * 7) * I've noticed that your prose has an overabundance of commas. Try to reduce this.
 * 8) **I've removed a few. Not a ton but a few. Need more?
 * 9) *Other than that, very good work.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 21:43, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) **Thank ya very much. Darth Trayus  Sith_Emblem.svg ( Trayus Academy ) 06:29, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) The clone doesn't know why he's in this era either
 * 12) * Can you get the date in the intro and the body instead of just keeping it in the infobox?
 * 13) **It's in the body prelude. Want more or is that bueno?
 * 14) ***Oops, didn't catch that.  CC7567  (talk) 07:29, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 15) * The intro includes a bit much about the Treaty of Coruscant, when all it is is the aftermath of the battle. I would recommend reducing it to a sentence or so; I understand that the Sacking had a great effect on it, but in the interest of an intro including only information directly related to the article, it can be reduced.
 * 16) **I think I got it.
 * 17) ***I think it can be slimmed down a little more into one sentence; leaving it at "controversial Treaty, which stopped the war" will be fine here.  CC7567  (talk) 07:29, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 18) ****K, I removed the Treaty's terms but left in the Cold War mention. Is that okay?
 * 19) *****Yeah, that's fine.  CC7567  (talk) 07:46, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 20) * "In the centuries following the Great Hyperspace War, several members of the Republic's Jedi Order would take up the mantle of the Sith and ignite galactic conflicts, such as the Exar Kun War and the Jedi Civil War." The future tense thing here is unnecessary; it's talking from a reminiscent perspective that isn't appropriate in the prelude of the actual battle.
 * 21) **Taken care of I believe.
 * 22) * Both the first two paragraphs of the prelude start with "After"; can one be reworded?
 * 23) **Yes sir.
 * 24) * "Unbeknownst to the Republic, the Jedi, and these new Sith, a faction of the original Sith had survived the destruction of the Empire after being led into the Unknown Regions of the galaxy by a mysterious Dark Lord who would become the Emperor of the surviving Sith." Rather long-winded; try to break this one up and reword.
 * 25) **Splt.
 * 26) * "The Jedi and Sith fought viciously while the bounty hunter engaged Temple Security with rockets and a flame thrower." This sentence needs to be reworded; whether intentionally or not, it's a null comparison that's comparing the Jedi and Sith's fighting intensity to the bounty hunter's methods of attack.
 * 27) **Changed the "while" to "as" so it's more of a note of simultaneous action than differing action. Does that help?
 * 28) * "During the melee, the Sith's Twi'lek aide was incapacitated after being thrown with the Force into a column by one of the Jedi that had originally confronted her and the Sith." Can that Jedi somehow be mentioned earlier?
 * 29) **I attempted to initially, and it repeatedly came off extremely awkward. Other than "one of the Jedi that had originally confronted her" there's no other way to identify him. If I put him in there when I talk about the Jedi encircling her and the Sith, it reads like "...while the Sith and Twi'lek were confronted by several Jedi, including one very special one, in the main entrance hall below." Without a name it's just too awkward.
 * 30) * "Angral, the Sith Lord in command of the strike on Coruscant": the "strike on Coruscant" reads a bit awkwardly here. I'm not sure whether you mean the strike on the planet itself or on its surface; please clarify.
 * 31) **Changed "on" to "against".
 * 32) * Sith Warship or Sith warship? Both are used; please be consistent.
 * 33) **Fixed up.
 * 34) * The battle part of the article is a bit subsectioned. Can you try perhaps merging the two last sections? However, if this is done, image placement will need to be fixed, so please try to work this out.
 * 35) **The problem here is that in the two appearances (Threat of Peace & Deceived) of the battle, there are two distinct portions of the battle that are specified, those being the invasion of the temple and the attack on the Senate. The timeline doesn't go into specifics, however it does give a broad overview of the events during the battle, such as the collapse of the temple and the death of the Jedi Masters. I originally had those mixed in with the other sections, however it looked out of place and awkward. With two paragraphs worth of information, I reasoned it was enough for a section, however if you have any other suggestions, they would be welcome.
 * 36) * When you refer to the Jedi Temple without the "Jedi", is it Temple or temple? You use both throughout the article.
 * 37) **Waiting on this one per IRC.
 * 38) ***I'll check this again when I get the chance.  CC7567  (talk) 07:29, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 39) * "reducing the assembly's numbers by half": it needs to be either "by half of ", or it needs to be reworded.
 * 40) **I mixed up the wording but it seems reallllly strange to me now. Would you prefer going simple and saying "During the fighting, half of the Jedi High Council was killed."?
 * 41) ***Yeah, I think that would be best.  CC7567  (talk) 07:29, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 42) ****Taken care of.
 * 43) * Same subsectioning issue for the Aftermath; two short paragraphs don't really constitute a section. Please try to merge them. New image placement will also need to be applied here.
 * 44) **Same situation as above, however I could merge the Occupation with the Republic's losses, however the occupation was really part of the aftermath, not during the sacking itself. Thoughts? (Also keep in mind that with the rate that information being released, all of these sections will grow quickly and be more fit to stand on their own.)
 * 45) * For both "Repercussion" paragraphs, both start with "With". Can one be reworded?
 * 46) **Yes sir.
 * 47) * 1st needs to be used in Appearances where appropriate.
 * 48) **Done.
 * 49) *Overall, the article is quite solid for an event from so recently released appearances. Good work.  CC7567  (talk) 05:09, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 50) **Thank you. :) Darth Trayus  Sith_Emblem.svg ( Trayus Academy ) 07:14, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 51) Soresu
 * 52) * The ship came to a halt directly in front of the lone Sith, Didn't it stop behind the Sith?
 * 53) **Yeah good catch.
 * 54) * Could the quote descriptions be expanded a bit? Just stating the speaker isn't enough, and it becomes rather bland.
 * 55) **Expanded a few. The first can't really be expanded though, because it was more like narration.
 * 56) ***Much better now. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 00:36, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 57) *It's looking good! SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 23:44, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 58) **Thank you! Darth Trayus  Sith_Emblem.svg ( Trayus Academy ) 00:23, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 59) Cav
 * 60) *I would suggest filling in the various redlinks in the intro and infobox since this CT on GAN redlinks looks set to pass soon. Other than that, nice work. - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 08:40, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments > JangFett  Talk 01:25, 15 June 2009 (UTC) > JangFett  Talk 01:45, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Like the Treaty of Coruscant, this article will obviously require updating as time goes on, and like the Treaty, I intend on doing just that. But at the moment, it's in the GA range. And I have no plans to go for anything higher until it's stable. Darth Trayus  Sith_Emblem.svg ( Trayus Academy ) 21:49, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Fixed quite a few spelling errors in my 1st copyedit, also removed unnecessary tags in the body. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * Thanks. I was almost certain i didn't catch all of them. Darth Trayus  Sith_Emblem.svg ( Trayus Academy ) 01:38, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Also I fixed the "Decieved" reference to "Deceived" – proper spelling :P <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * Sure. Darth Trayus  Sith_Emblem.svg ( Trayus Academy ) 02:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I reworded a couple things related to the objections.--Gbadude3 02:20, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Moradmin Bast
> JangFett  Talk 00:14, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Nominated by: <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * Nomination comments: Quite solid work, One of the few outside TCW articles I've rewritten :P

(0 ACs/1 Users/1 Total)
Support
 * 1)  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 03:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Floyd:
 * 2) * "Moradmin Bast was an Imperial Army general, subordinate to High General Cassio Tagge, and the personal aide to Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin aboard the first Death Star, and served as chief manager in the Death Star." Split these sentences up.
 * 3) **Addressed
 * 4) *"Though soon after, Bast was killed when the Death Star exploded near Yavin 4, after Luke Skywalker's proton torpedo entered the Thermal exhaust port in the Death Star." The "Though soon after" is rather awkward.
 * 5) **Indeed, removed that statement.
 * 6) * " Seated to the left of his superior officer, Tagge, the group of command staff stationed in the Death Star discussed the Rebel Alliance, and their victory in obtaining the Death Star plans." Is it really relevant where he sat?
 * 7) **Not really :) Removed
 * 8) * " Motti and Tagge argued about the Imperial Senate's continuous support for the Alliance, though with the intervention of Tarkin, he announced to the assembled command staff the Emperor's dissolution of the Imperial Senate. " Reword. It makes it sound like Motti or Tagge announced the dissolution of the Senate, although it was Tarkin.
 * 9) **Removed that comma and added a period before "Though".
 * 10) * Be consistent on your capitalization of the "Force".
 * 11) **Addressed
 * 12) * "During the Battle of Yavin, Imperial military analysts, who had been studying the Rebels' initial attempt to enter the battle station's northern polar trench, brought to Bast's attention." Brought what to Bast's attention?
 * 13) **Addressed and removed that statement.
 * 14) * "Bast indicated that the small thermal exhaust port was a potential danger to everyone onboard the battlestation. " Tell why the exhaust port is a danger.
 * 15) **Addressed. I stated that it was a entrance to the main reactor; I could say why it was a "danger" in a different sentence, but I don't want to get off topic.
 * 16) * "Though, the engineers stationed on the Death Star experienced slight difficulties, delaying the destruction of Yavin 4." Merge this with the previous sentence.
 * 17) **Addressed
 * 18) * "after one of his fighters bumped his own fighter, " Reword.
 * 19) **haha, Thanks for addressing this objection. Fixed, hope that works
 * 20) * "as well as all the Death Star's commendations," I don't think commendations is appropriate here.
 * 21) **Reworded
 * 22) * Is content of the Legacy section really suitable for Legacy? It's really just "There was a guy who looked like him."
 * 23) **No, removed. The mentioning of the lookalike is in the bts.
 * 24) * Quote for P&T?
 * 25) **The only major quote he said in Episode IV was the "analyzed the attack sir". I don't want to repeat the quote because I used it two times. I moved one variation of that quote to the P&T from the Battle of Yavin section.
 * 26) * "many of whom were also assigned to the Death Star included:" Reword, although I would prefer you cut the part about the other Imperial officers with the same facial hair out entirely. It's not very relevant./s>
 * 27) **Addressed
 * 28) * "The lookalike officer in the Holiday Special has not yet been identified, and his connection with Bast, if any, has not been explained, but it is known that is not Bast, and that Bast died in the Battle of Yavin." Split this sentence up, and the one following it.
 * 29) **Addressed
 * 30) * Watch your linking. Articles are linked to once in the intro and once in the main body of the article.
 * 31) **Fixed
 * 32) * IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 02:34, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 33) Mauser:
 * 34) * One thing is obligatory for all movie noms: check all adaptations. In your case: the novel, the junior novel, the Marvel adaptation, the Dark Horse adaptation, the Manga adaptation, the photo comic, the radio drama, The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader and possibly some others. Simply adding them to the appearances list is not nearly enough: you must check all of them for any new info and inconsistencies.
 * 35) **I completely agree, though I need to check if he was in the novel. I don't quite remember if he was in the 1976 and the most recent adaptions, but I will check. Bast wasn't identified until CCG, he was known by a different name/designation before the CCG. Death Star referred to Bast as "lieutenant".
 * 36) ***Fixed sources and references. Expanded bts as well.
 * 37) ****What about the Dark Horse adaptation and the radio drama?
 * 38) *****He was in the Dark Horse but not in the radio drama. Addressed.
 * 39) * A movie character with lines such as Bast is ought to have more sources mentioning him. Cards from Star Wars Trading Card Game and Star Wars PocketModel TCG are the first ones that spring to mind, but I'm sure there are a lot more. Even the sources, that are already listed, you don't seem to use. Where's the info from the Insider article, Star Wars: The Complete Visual Dictionary, Star Wars Encyclopedia for that matter?
 * 40) **I'll be adding more sources and I'll check those visual dictionaries. Hopefully the newer sources say he is Bast.
 * 41) ***Same comment in the previous objection.
 * 42) *Keeping in mind that those two objections are pretty major and will require a lot of time to get the sources alone, I'd say this article's chances of getting GA'd in the near future are slim at best.  Mauser  Comlink 10:05, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 43) **With respect, Fett, you should have done that prior to moninating the article.  Mauser  Comlink 13:18, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 44) ***Though a article can change throughout the nomination.
 * 45) ****Will give a full review after the last two sources are checked.  Mauser  Comlink 10:59, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 46) Jinzler
 * 47) * The sources list is not in chronological order
 * 48) **I'm aware of that; I'll be adding new sources soon and reorder them.
 * 49) * I may be wrong, but wasn't Bast's rank known only to be "Chief" until the release of Death Star, which confirmed that he was a general? If so, this should be mentioned in the BTS section
 * 50) **CCG referred to him as Chief Bast. Death Star was only "lieutenant". But I'll check the novel just to make sure.
 * 51) * I know that Floyd has suggested that you remove the legacy section but if you keep it, it could do with some slight rephrasing: Two years after Bast's death, a man who served onboard the Imperial I-class Star Destroyer Devastator resembled Bast - this seems to give the impression that the man only resembled Bast while aboard the Star Destroyer. It would perhaps sound better if you changed it to "a man resembling Bast served onboard an Imperial I-class Star Destroyer. Also you could perhaps add a bit more context to this and mention the Blockade of Kashyyyk
 * 52) *My favourite Death Star officer --Jinzler 23:30, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 53) **I agree :)
 * 54) Mauser strikes back:
 * 55) * Sources needs to be sorted by the order of publishment.
 * 56) **Addressed
 * 57) * Why have succession box, if he's the only person to ever hold such position?
 * 58) *Addresed
 * 59) * Context for the Death Star in intro.
 * 60) **Adressed
 * 61) * In the intro you use the words Death Star too much. Replace some instances with "battlestation" or something.
 * 62) **Addressed
 * 63) * Intro could be expanded.
 * 64) **I dont think so. The intro explains his rank within the Death Star, which is partly revealed in the DS novel. Then sums up his role in A New Hope.
 * 65) * No "remains unknown" is allowed.
 * 66) **Addressed
 * 67) *" either assigned or personally selected" - speculation.
 * 68) **Addressed
 * 69) * "He seems to have functioned well" - speculation.
 * 70) **Addressed
 * 71) * You describe all events in the conference room, though not all of them are relevant to Bast himself. Please re-check.
 * 72) **Addressed
 * 73) * Find at least one more image for the article.
 * 74) **Addressed
 * 75) * The image of Bast and Vader is from the very deleted scene you talk about. Therefore, it is not Bast.
 * 76) **Addressed
 * 77) * You say that Skywalker led a squad into the trench. Read the squad article and reword accordingly.
 * 78) **Addressed
 * 79) ***I corrected it myself.
 * 80) *More to come.  Mauser  Comlink 15:59, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 81) Next round:
 * 82) *Infobox: you don't even say that he was a Human male. Same for the bio.
 * 83) **Actually, it was in the infobox but not in the bio. Added in the bio.
 * 84) ***Sorry, still can't see it in the bio.
 * 85) * "found a potential danger" - what exactly was the danger?
 * 86) **Addressed in the intro.
 * 87) ***The thing is, intro should be self-explanatory.
 * 88) **Expanded the meaning of it in the intro. But it is explained in his bio.
 * 89) * "Bast confronted Tarkin" - that wasn't a confrontation. Besides, you don't even say that he asked Tarkin to evacuate.
 * 90) **Reworded and expanded.
 * 91) * "Bast entered service in the Imperial Army and rose through the ranks" - what's the source for that?
 * 92) **Reworded, that section is sourced to the DS novel.
 * 93) * "Bast had no personal aspirations beyond serving the Empire, and was loyal to Tarkin and Tagge." - that belongs in P&T.
 * 94) **Addressed
 * 95) *Why did the Rebels run out of time?
 * 96) **Expanded
 * 97) ***Again, is that really relevant to Bast? Check the article TK-622 - it only mentions parts of the battle that were essential to his fate, no need to focus on Luke and vader instead of Bast.
 * 98) *Tarkin did not order Bast to fire the superlaser, of that I'm certain. The orders were to another officer.
 * 99) **I'm certain it was Bast and then Bast gave the order to the chief gunnery officer.
 * 100) ***I will double-check it soon.
 * 101) * The whole last paragraph of the bio with the description of the Battle of Yavin looks choppy. Check it again and leave only elements relevant to Bast himself.
 * 102) **Addressed and removed a section.
 * 103) * Expand P&T.
 * 104) **I merged that sentence in the bio in the P&T, though their is not too much information about him and I have listed what is seen in the DS novel and A New Hope.
 * 105) *In Holiday Special Bast's lines from the movie were re-dubbed, you should mention that.
 * 106) **Addressed
 * 107) ***Sorry, you misunderstood me. In the ANH deleted scene he and Vader had one dialogue, while in the Holiday Special it was replaced with a compeletely different one. It's explained in Star Wars: Behind the Magic.
 * 108) *  Mauser  Comlink 17:57, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 109) 'Chack Attack:
 * 110) *Your sources are out of order.
 * 111) **Addressed
 * 112) *I'm currently working on Motti, and there ended up being a lot more P&T info than I expected (little tidbits from numerous soruces). Are you sure that you can't expand the P&T for Bast? Going along with this, are you sure those are all the sources? I realize his role is less than Motti's but still, I'd think there might be a few more sources than shown here.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 14:57, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments > JangFett  Talk 00:58, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Appearances go above sources fyi. Darth Trayus  Sith_Emblem.svg ( Trayus Academy ) 02:10, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Opps, must have missed that. Thanks for fixing that Trayus :) <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"

Attack on the Elders' spaceport

 * Nominated by: &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 04:45, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: My third GA nom, continuing JonathanProject:Obi-Wan left the Jedi.

(2 ACs/1 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 05:40, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 2)  CC7567  (talk) 04:48, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3)  Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 07:41, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Soresu
 * 2) * knocked the guard down, then knocked a second guard out. Firstly, knocked is repetitive. Also, does knocked the guard down mean knocked unconscious or just pushed onto the ground?
 * 3) **Reworded. As far as the second part of the objection, the source only states that Obi-Wan "knocked him down", but the description of the rest of the battle clearly indicates that he does not in any way participate in the fight afterward. In other words, he could be knocked out, but we don't know for sure. We know only that he was taken out of the fight, which is reflected by the new wording. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 23:37, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) * Soon after, the now-divided Young battled one last time, this time against itself. Time is repetitive.
 * 5) **Reworded.
 * 6) *And that's it. Very well done. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 09:10, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) Cav the Elder:
 * 8) * Intro: The Elders were making the tactical error of refueling all of their fighters—which were their primary advantage in the war—at the same time, and when the Young noticed this, Obi-Wan Kenobi—one of the Young's leaders—came up with a plan to eliminate this advantage and possibly win the war. Multiple use of dash quantifiers in one sentence. Please remove one, or break up and reword the sentence as necessary.
 * 9) **Changed one to commas. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 20:03, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) * For centuries, the planet of Melida/Daan had been locked in a civil war as the two native tribes—the Melida and the Daan—fought over years-old grudges. Is there any background to these grudges? Also, using the term "years-old" when you refered to it as "centuries" at the start of the sentence doesn't sit quite right.
 * 11) **In-universe, no one remembers what the original issue was that started the whole thing, but by this time, the "grudge" over which they were fighting was usually a relatively recent battle won by the opposing tribe, so it is correct as written. As far as giving background on the grudges, IMO to explain it would be a lot of extra detail that isn't necessary&mdash;all the reader needs to know is that they've been fighting for centuries over nothing but old grudges. However, I can reword and/or elaborate if you still want. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 20:03, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 12) * The Young - who are they exactly? Are they children from one tribe or the other, or a combination of both?
 * 13) **Both tribes. Clarified. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 20:03, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 14) * How did the Young capture the tribe's weapons?
 * 15) **Clarified. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 20:03, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 16) * Why exactly did Kenobi leave the Order the fight for The Young?
 * 17) **Already stated: "to join the fight." Specifically, he felt that the Young's cause was greater than that of the Jedi, and thus decided to stay and join the fight. Again, however, IMO it's really not necessary to explain further for purposes of this article, but I can if you want. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 20:03, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 18) ***Please do. It's important to understand his reasoning. Don't assume that the reader knows everything, or is familiar with the books these events appear in. I for one have never read them. - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 12:48, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 19) ****Explained. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 19:11, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 20) * The quote you have in article implies that the Young contacted the Middle Generation for their support after the raid. However, the article text implies that the Middle Generation joined them of their own accord. Please amend the article to reflect the Young making contact.
 * 21) **Adjusted. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 20:03, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 22) * Why did Jinn stop the fighting? Why was he there?
 * 23) **Clarified. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 20:03, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 24) * No mention in the CSWE under any of the individual participants entries? - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 12:43, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 25) **Though the war itself is mentioned in multiple entries, the CSWE contains absolutely no mention of this particular battle, not even in Roenni's entry. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 20:03, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 26) Attack of the Clone
 * 27) * Can you try to trim down the intro just a tad? It's a bit disproportionate to the article itself.
 * 28) **Trimmed off some excess detail. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 04:02, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 29) * "However, the two tribes joined forces as the Elders and retaliated": can you check this? It sounds like something's missing after "and", or that the "and" simply shouldn't be in there.
 * 30) **It's correct as written. "The two tribes" did two things: they A) "joined forces as the Elders" and B) "retaliated". &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 04:02, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 31) ***Oops, didn't see that; thanks for clarifying.  CC7567  (talk) 04:48, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 32) * Can it be mentioned a little earlier that the Elders had five starfighters? "Hidden starfighters" isn't very specific, and I don't see much reason of mentioning the crucial fact of the number of fighters later.
 * 33) **It's stated as early as I can state it. The Defenders of the Dead stops just after the opening battle has begun without stating the number of fighters, and The Uncertain Path starts 14 days later, so we don't know exactly what happened in between books. It's very possible they may have had more than (or fewer than) five during the opening battle; all we know for sure is that they had five immediately prior to this attack. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 04:02, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 34) * "This worked for the first three": first three what? Starfighters? Young? Elders?
 * 35) **Clarified. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 04:02, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 36) * "and Kenobi moved to compensate": compensate what/for what?
 * 37) **Clarified. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 04:02, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 38) * "the strike team bolted for the shaft they had entered the hangar through": I know that this is somewhat grammatically correct, but the placement of "through" is rather awkward; can you try to reword it?
 * 39) **Reworded. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 04:02, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 40) * What exactly was the point of the attack; was it to convince the Middle Generations to ally themselves with the Young? If that was the case, please try to mention it in the prelude instead of all the way down in the aftermath.
 * 41) **The source strongly suggests that possibility with the wording, but it's never explicitly stated and would therefore qualify as OR. The only "point" explicitly stated is to eliminate the Elders' starfighter advantage. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 04:02, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 42) * Is the recap of the end of the war completely necessary to the aftermath of the attack itself?  CC7567  (talk) 00:14, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 43) **Not necessarily, but it's there for two specific reasons. First, the prelude states that the Young's original goal was peace, and I wanted to show the reader how peace was finally reached; otherwise the reader might get the wrong idea that this attack and the end of the war brought peace once and for all. Second, the aftermath section is a little on the small side anyway due to not much information being available, and eliminating that information would shorten it even more. And just to clarify, the Last Battle of Zehava wasn't really part of the Young-Elders War itself as was incorrectly stated in its article; it was actually a standalone battle not technically part of any specific conflict. The war itself ended with this attack. I'll fix that article now. Thanks for the review. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 04:02, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 44) ***Fair enough, I guess.  CC7567  (talk) 04:48, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 45) Context for the Young and the Elders in the intro, please. And especially for the Middle Generation. Graestan ( Talk ) 02:10, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 46) *IMO, the names themselves are self-contextualizing. The Young and the Elders are clearly identified as the two factions in the war, and their names provide a good idea of what kind of people make up each faction; identifying the Elders as being made up of the two native tribes really is relevant only to the early part of the prelude section and not the intro, which sums up only the attack itself and the immediately surrounding events. Likewise, the fact that the Young are made up of children is heavily implied by their name, and there's nothing else I can say with getting into the detail of the two native tribes again. As far as the Middle Generation, hardly any canonical information exists on them, and what little context I could provide is again either redundant given the name, or it would be detail irrelevant to the intro. I can try to work some context in if you still want it, but it seems unnecessary to me. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 02:41, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 47) **Alright, contextified after IRC discussion. The Middle Generation, is, well, the middle generation, and I've added a couple words that I believe should help the reader understand that. Absolutely nothing else is known about them except what you already see in the intro and in the first sentence of the "Aftermath" section; adding that detail would require giving a bit of explanation about the prior wars, and I don't want to add too much since CC already asked me to cut the intro down a bit above. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 21:48, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * 848 words at the time of nomination. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 04:45, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Tarkov

 * Nominated by: Kilson Likes PIE 9:40, 28 June 09 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Weird, two Clone Wars Chapter 22 noms back-to-back. :P

(2 ACs/2 Users/4 Total)
Support
 * 1) Good job :P.  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 16:05, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Looks good after a copyedit. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 01:28, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 3)  Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 09:12, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4)  Mauser  Comlink 10:09, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Jujiggum attacks the PIE
 * 2) * "In 19 BBY, during the Clone Wars, Tarkov took his son Jaccoba hunting when they stumbled upon a large Separatist invasion army." This reads rather awkwardly, please rephrase.
 * 3) * I'd change around the first sentence of the bio a bit; it's too similar to the first sentence of the intro. (Or you can change the intro sentence)
 * 4) * The second half of the first paragraph of the bio is a little too play-by-play; maybe cut it down a bit. (Not too much, just a little)
 * 5) * In the second paragraph of the bio you use "nearby" twice in the same sentence. Please change one of them.
 * 6) * "Tarkov was curious, wanting to find out why a supposed "plant" would be making metalic sounds after Jaccob's spear hit the disguised MTT." This is a little awkward/colloquial, please rephrase.
 * 7) * In the BTS: it is unclear whether this episode, or the whole series, originally aired on March 22.
 * 8) * "...and what happened to him after his brief appearance..." "What happened to him" is a little colloquial; could it be changed?
 * 9) *Good work. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 15:19, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) **How dare you attack the PIE. :P All of your objections are addressed, thanks for the review. Kilson Likes PIE 15:56, 28 June 09 (UTC)
 * 11) Attack of the Clone
 * 12) * Can you try and crop the infobox image so that it's only Tarkov? It's slightly misleading.
 * 13) * Specifically where in the DVD was Tarkov's namesake identified? Please be more specific.  CC7567  (talk) 00:48, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 14) Just a few.
 * 15) *It's almost the same as Jaccoba; this isn't a major objection, and if you're majorly opposed to it then that's alright, but couldn't you perhaps vary it a bit in relations to his son's article?
 * 16) *Did he act in a protective way to his son? That could be added to the P&T.
 * 17) **Not really, no.
 * 18) *Otherwise, good. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  20:16, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 19) **Your other objection is addressed. Thanks for the reviews. Kilson Likes PIE 02:05, 17 July 09 (UTC)

Comments
 * I'm assuming that no appropriate quotes are available.  CC7567  (talk) 00:48, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Not really, unless you want some growls. Kilson Likes PIE 18:05, 04 July 09 (UTC)
 * Kilson, I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to hold off voting until the CW DVD has been checked; otherwise, the article won't be confirmed to have proper source coverage. If you need help doing this, let me know, but please try.  CC7567  (talk) 23:55, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sure Kilson can handle it himself, but I can vouch that there's no new info about Tarkov in the DVD extras.  Mauser  Comlink 10:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Jaccoba

 * Nominated by: Kilson Likes PIE 06:30, 30 July 09 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Goes along with my Tarkov nom.

(1 ACs/2 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) After a copy-edit. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 10:55, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Looks good after a small copyedit. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 04:37, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  15:24, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Can you specify exactly where in the DVD Jaccoba's name origin was revealed?  CC7567  (talk) 00:52, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Objection time.
 * 3) *“…was a Wookiee boy” – I’d like to see this replaced with “was a young Wookiee male”, to make it more encyclopaedic when referring to the sexes like this.
 * 4) *Context on grantaloupe in the intro.
 * 5) *Same as first objection in first paragraph of biography.
 * 6) *Same as second objection but in first paragraph of biography.
 * 7) *More variation between the introduction and biography; I’m noticing several phrases repeated. No major changes needed, just a few variations of synonyms and the likes.
 * 8) *This isn’t so much an objection as a question; could the P&T be expanded a tad to include such things as what he wore, his relation with his father? I’ve not seen the sources in question.
 * 9) *Not really, I added something else to the end though.
 * 10) *That’s all for now. Otherwise, well done Kilson. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  20:10, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) **Your objections are addressed, thank you for the review. Kilson Likes PIE 01:57, 17 July 09 (UTC)
 * 12) Toprawa:
 * 13) *My objection here is identical to CC's. I think it would be best to specify in the appropriate reference note where Jaccoba is mentioned in the DVD set. The audio commentary, etc. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:15, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 14) *You're definitely missing information from The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia under the "Jaccoba" entry. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:17, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * It's the same with Tarkov; I'm going to have to hold off voting until the CW DVD has been checked. Otherwise, the article won't be confirmed to have proper source coverage. If you need help doing this, let me know, but please try.  CC7567  (talk) 23:55, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Dolandu

 * Nominated by: --Eyrezer 03:03, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: D is for Dolandu

(1 ACs/4 Users/5 Total)
Support
 * 1) Everything looks good! ~ SavageBob 23:38, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Nice work.  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 03:02, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  12:16, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 19:13, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) Very good. Andykatib 21:30, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Just a few.
 * 2) * "The residents of Stomorr were attacked by forces under the control of some Dark Jedi who sought to kill the Jedi Master Niquon" - "Some" Dark Jedi is a little colloquial, and doesn't flow so well; could this be changed, please?
 * 3) **Changed a little. Unfortunately, the Dark Jedi are never seen on Skolokor and their numbers never specified.
 * 4) * "a colorful and cozy trading center" - Is that stated in the source? I'm afraid I'm not familiar with it but, if not, cozy's POV and colloquial.
 * 5) **Colorful and cozy is how the source describes it.
 * 6) * "with flagstone paved streets and some statues." - Same as objection one.
 * 7) **Done.
 * 8) * Could the second reference idea perhaps be placed in the BtS instead?
 * 9) **Done.
 * 10) *Otherwise, good work. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  12:38, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) **Thanks for the review. --Eyrezer 21:40, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 12) *Any time. :) -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  12:16, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 13) The Grand Master
 * 14) * Intro: Why did they want to kill Niquon? Also, I assume Niquon was one of the Jedi who lived near the settlement, but could this be clarified?
 * 15) **Because they were Dark Jedi? :P There is no motivation given for why they want to kill him. Changed the intro around for the second bit.
 * 16) * History: "...it was capable of injecting lethal poison." Into what/whom? Did the droid already do this, because the next sentence makes it seem so. This is rather vague.
 * 17) **Yeah, the source is pretty vague. All the info provided can be seen in the quote at the start of that section.
 * 18) * By "droid fighers", do you mean a form of battle droid? Because if so, it should link to that article.
 * 19) **I added the link. I hadn't done so because it evokes the Trade Fed droids for me.
 * 20) * Shouldn't the alternate paths be noted in the BTS?
 * 21) **Done
 * 22) * Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 01:22, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 23) **Thanks for the review. --Eyrezer 02:49, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 24) Please check the "which was settled by Humans and various"; it doesn't sound clear. It's normally "Humans settled on ", but if there's a reason for this, please explain.  CC7567  (talk) 00:18, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 25) Toprawa:
 * 26) *Please see that the article's sectioning adheres to the LG. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:10, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Unidentified bounty hunter (Sacking of Coruscant)

 * Nominated by: -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  15:22, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: No quotes, so can't think of one. :/

(0 ACs/2 Users/2 Total)
Support
 * 1) All right, but I'd feel better if you added that data to the article. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 09:51, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 19:42, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Farl says: Excuse me but, how do you know this person is a bounty hunter? She might be a mercenary, a soldier, a thug, a bodyguard, a pilot... Probably I've just missed that reference in the video, could you humor me and pinpoint it? --Skippy Farlstendoiro 06:41, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) *Good catch, but, as Cav pointed out to me, she's wearing the armor assigned to the bounty hunter class. :) -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  09:46, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) Attack of the Clone
 * 4) *Please vary one of the uses of "as the Sith ".
 * 5) *Please vary "confronted".
 * 6) *Are you sure that the trailer is a source for the fact that she was wearing armor assigned to the bounty hunter class?  CC7567  (talk) 00:24, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments > JangFett  Talk 20:00, 7 July 2009 (UTC) Ah, missed that, cheers. -- Darth tom  <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  09:46, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
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Iridonian

 * Nominated by: -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  18:48, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: I is for Iridonian...

(0 ACs/0 Users/0 Total)
Support

Object
 * 1) From the Council Chambers:
 * 2) * BTS: "Previously the term "Iridonian" was used to refer to Zabraks, but the description of their culture." Confusing to the point that it barely makes any sense. Please reword.
 * 3) *"Iridorian" vs. "Iridonian": The article uses both spellings, and it appears that "Iridonian" is correct based on statements in the BTS and on the talk page. I've fixed a couple, but you should look through the article yourself and fix the rest.
 * 4) *&mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 21:08, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) **Both have since been removed, due to being factually incorrect, so those are addressed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  12:55, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) ***The first one was expanded on by Mauser and has been struck. The second one, however, is not fixed due to Mauser's reversion; your best bet would probably be to wait a little bit and see if Tranner gets a response from Mr. Chee before fixing it, though I do feel that Mauser is probably right below. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 04:22, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * I'm pretty sure it's spelled "Iridorian" (which you use throughout the article), since "Iridonian" is used to denote Zabraks from Iridonia. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 20:13, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * See the BTS and the related discussion on the article's talk page. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 21:08, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * My point still stands. "Iridorian" is still used throughout the article. Additionally, since "Iridonian" refers to a type of Zabrak, this article should include information on Iridonian Zabraks. For all we know, the being in the main image may be a Zabrak under that armor. Either way, something's just not right - and unfortunately, there's nothing that can be done short of asking Leland Chee about it. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 23:05, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * My apologies, gentlemen. I forgot to check the name prior to the article's nomination, despite my own doubt that it was "Iridonian". That's now fixed. -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  12:54, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright, you redirected "Iridonian" to Zabrak and changed this nomination to "Iridorian," but Mauser has reverted your changes. So until this issue of "Iridorian" vs. "Iridonian" is resolved, this won't pass. To help speed this up, I've left a post on the "Holocron continuity database questions" forum on StarWars.com, asking Mr. Chee about this issue. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 13:21, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * To me the case is simple. We have 2 variations of spelling: from KOTOR game and Camaign Guide and we were that LFL considered the one from the game to be a misspelling.  Mauser  Comlink 13:38, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * In the meantime, I've semi-protected it for a month (which will still let most people frequenting this page edit at will.) &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 03:38, 14 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Refresh my memory, but I think we don't ordinarily include the Eras template on sentient species articles. (If we did include it for this article, the "Old Republic" era icon would be the one to use.) &mdash;Silly Dan (talk) 03:38, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Wilek Nereus

 * Nominated by:Andykatib 21:02, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: I hope I did enough work on it.

(0 ACs/1 Users/1 Total)
Support
 * 1) &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 17:40, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Object > JangFett  Talk 01:33, 10 July 2009 (UTC) > JangFett  Talk 06:31, 10 July 2009 (UTC) Comments
 * 1) Before anything else, sourcing is required throughout the entire article.  CC7567  (talk) 21:08, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) *I managed to source the whole article with all the sources that I used. But, I'm not very sure if it would need a powers and abilities section. What do you think? Andykatib 21:41, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) **You also need to source the infobox and the succession box at the bottom. --Eyrezer 00:58, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) ***You oversourced the article completely. You only source a paragraph or a sentence if it is from a different source. Otherwise, you don't source a sentence if the paragraph itself with that sentence is from the same source&mdash;you source it at the end of the paragraph.
 * 5) ***Bio- "[&hellip;]he had personally killed as trophies, and he liked to dispose those who got in his way by infecting them with various alien parasites.[3] He had several adipose louse eggs in his possession, considering the parasites to be potentially useful for disciplinary purposes. By 4 BBY, he had teeth from predators from seventeen worlds, including the Bakuran cratsch and the ketrann of Alk'lellish III. [3]" You see the two [3]? Only source if a statement comes from a different source. Otherwise, source it at the end of the paragraph, if it is from the same source. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * 1) ****Thankyou very much for your advice. Now I understand how to source an article properly. I managed to deal with the sourcing bit but I can see that I will have to do a bit more work. I'll do my best to comply I promise. Thanks very much for your counsel. Andykatib 05:57, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) *****Much Better :) Now make sure you specify what source did the following paragraphs with sources: "[3][2][4]" came from. I see that you do this frequently with different paragraphs. If the content comes from one source, choose one of the sources and eliminate the rest.
 * 3) *****"As an officer in the Imperial Navy, Nereus eventually became the captain of a cruiser.[1]In 1 ABY, Bakura was occupied by Imperial forces who sought access to its repulsorlift industry which was dominated by the Bakur RepulsorCorp. Due to the internal unrest amongst the Bakuran people, Imperial forces were able to quickly conquer the planet with minimal losses and resistance. Shortly afterwards, Nereus was appointed as governor which marked his first foray into politics." The ending part of this paragraph is missing a source. Or you forgot to move that source to the end of the paragraph. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * 1) From the Council Chambers:
 * 2) * His gender and species should be mentioned both in the intro and at the beginning of the bio.
 * 3) * Context needed on Bakur RepulsorCorp.
 * 4) * "Nereus's plan was to allow the Ssi-ruuk to capture Skywalker, only to have the trichoids hatch and begin multiplying and killing the Ssi-ruu went over to Skywalker's apartment near the spaceport.": This makes no sense. What are you trying to say here?
 * 5) **Managed to deal with points one and three. I also did some extra research on his early life and found out some more useful information. Andyaktib 05:51, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) * A large portion of the P&T appears to have simply been copied and pasted directly from the bio. Two examples: "As with many Imperial civil servants, Nereus disliked dealing with aliens on equal terms and subscribed to the views of Human High Culture prevalent throughout the Imperial bureaucracy then." and "He had several adipose louse and olabrian trichoid eggs in his possession, considering the parasites to be potentially useful for disciplinary purposes." There are numerous other instances of this; please reword all of them so as to avoid repetition.
 * 7) **Done. I even reworded the introduction to emphasize the Belden family. Andykatib 06:18, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) * The BTS needs expansion. The main thing is to include all sources and appearances (including "mention only"s), since there's not very many of them.
 * 9) **I managed to deal with the BTS and I think I might have dealt with point 4 by modifying the bio so that there are no repetitions. What do you think? Andykatib 21:11, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) ***The BTS looks good, but I still see some repetition between the P&T and the bio. Check items in the first and especially fourth paragraphs of the P&T. Also for future reference, it's best to note that you've addressed each objection separately under the respective objections rather than using one note for multiple objections. You can see an example of that from one of my previous GA noms here. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 22:08, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) * Speaking of appearances and sources, The Essential Guide to Characters is listed in the references but not under sources. Is there a reason for this?
 * 12) * Addendum to the sourcing issues above: There's no need to provide multiple references for a single piece of info. Example: "His second-in-command Thanas relinquished his Imperial rank and defected to the Alliance.[3][2][4]" Pick one of those three refs and exterminate the others. Multiple refs are only necessary if you're dealing with speculation in the BTS or for controversial issues such as the Jedi Exile's gender.
 * 13) * One more sourcing issue: don't reference BTS info that is self-sourcing. Here's an example: "Wilek Nereus was first created by Kathy Tyers for The Truce at Bakura in 1994." The sentence itself clearly states the source&mdash;The Truce at Bakura&mdash;so references are unnecessary for that sentence.
 * 14) **I managed to deal with points seven and eight. I have to admit that I do oversouce on many occasions. Andykatib 22:17, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 15) *I'll take a closer look once these are addressed. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 03:30, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 16) From the Council Chambers: (part 2)
 * 17) * "Protests occurred and only worsened after news of Orn Belden's death was leaked. [...] Worse, Organa was rescued from a rural retreat by Han Solo,": "Worse" is a bit repetitive here as it's used twice in three sentences. Can you change one?
 * 18) **Fixed it. Andykatib 08:52, 17th July 2009 (UTC)
 * 19) * "Luckily, Gaeriel was rescued by the local Imperial staff.": "Luckily" is POV, as not all sides would consider it lucky. Please reword.
 * 20) **Got to it. Andykatib 08:52, 17th July 2009 (UTC)
 * 21) * "It was then that Luke Skywalker arrived.": This reads more like a novel than an encyclopedic entry. Please rephrase.
 * 22) **Fixed it, thanks for pointing that out. Andykatib 08:52, 17th July 2009 (UTC)
 * 23) * "[...] but he lacked both the dignity and self-control. In keeping with his ideal of an Old Republic politician, Nereus let the Bakuran police quell riots as often as possible without deploying the garrison's stormtroopers.": This appears to be the last remaining instance of bio/P&T duplication. Please reword one of them.
 * 24) **Fixed it. Andykatib 08:46, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 25) * Each article should be linked once in the intro, once in the infobox, and once in the body, upon the first mention in each. The intro and infobox are good, but I'm noticing quite a bit of overlinking in the body. I've removed a few excess links, but you should go through and check yourself.
 * 26) **I am a little bit confused by what you mean. Andykatib 08:46, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 27) ***What I mean is that upon the first mention of something (say, olabrian trichoids) in the body, it should be linked to. After that, it should not be linked to again for the rest of the article. With the example I gave, I count five links to it&mdash;one under "Imperial career", one under "An unworkable truce", one under "A desperate gamble", and two in the P&T. Only the first link should be kept; the other four should be removed. There are numerous other instances of this throughout the article. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 17:19, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 28) ****Got to it finally. Andykatib 07:47, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 29) *Lastly, remember in the future that links should never be placed in quotes unless that is the article's only mention of the subject. I removed those links myself in my copyedit. I'll give the article a final look once these are addressed. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 04:48, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 30) The Council's final report:
 * 31) * "By 4 BBY, he had teeth from predators from seventeen worlds": "From" is repetitive, please replace one.
 * 32) **Fixed it. Andykatib 05:13, 21st July 2009 (UTC)
 * 33) * "However, with Skywalker now in their hands, the Ssi-ruuk rescinded their secret deal with Nereus by launching a full scale attack on Bakura an hour later, striking at the orbital station that hovered over Bakura. However, Gaeriel was rescued by the local Imperial staff.": Two consecutive sentences start with "However"; can you reword one?
 * 34) **Got to it. Andykatib 05:13, 21st July 2009 (UTC)
 * 35) * "For a moment, it seemed that victory would be achieved with the vanquishing of the Ssi-ruuvi threat.": Is this sentence really necessary? It reads slightly like a novel, and "vanquishing" is repetitive with the beginning of the next section, which effectively begins by repeating the important part of this sentence. Consider removing it.
 * 36) **Fixed it. Replaced with the more appropriate term "neutralized" Andykatib 05:13, 21st July 2009 (UTC)
 * 37) ***I'd still rather see the whole sentence removed, but it is a little better now, and I won't push the issue. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 17:40, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 38) * "You're infest us all!": This excerpt from the "A desperate gamble" section quote is grammatically incorrect; it should be "You'll infest us all!" If this error is also in the source, it needs to have a [sic] added; otherwise it should be corrected.
 * 39) **Got to it as well, my mistake. Andykatib 05:13, 21st July 2009 (UTC)
 * 40) *Looks good to me otherwise. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 22:40, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 41) **Thankyou so much for your counsel and support. Do you want a Wookiee cookiee? Andykatib 05:13, 21st July 2009 (UTC)
 * 42) ***Thanks for the offer, but I'm not hungry, as I just had lunch. :P &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 17:40, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Dammit, I was about to say the same before CC edit conflicted me. :P I'll give it a good review tomorrow. Before I do, I'd suggest you take a look at our GA guidelines and check the article conforms to it, as you've obviously missed out the sourcing idea. Good luck with what I believe is your first GAN. :) -- Darth tom Imperial Emblem.svg <span title="(Imperial Intelligence)" style="color:Black">(Imperial Intelligence)  21:10, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Edit conflict here too on the same issue. :P I'll give it a close look later tonight. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 21:13, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Muura

 * Nominated by:--Darth Niffoc 01:03, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments:A pretty good article for a character who shows up for relatively ten seconds in the SW Universe.

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Support > JangFett  Talk 23:02, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 04:27, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Good work. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * 1)  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 21:16, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Object > JangFett  Talk 01:13, 10 July 2009 (UTC) > JangFett  Talk 00:37, 11 July 2009 (UTC) > JangFett  Talk 04:19, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Fett
 * 2) * Expand the intro
 * 3) **Addressed
 * 4) ***A intro is a short summary of the article. You just added a few words to make that one sentence in the intro become a run-on. Still needs expanding.
 * 5) ****Addressed
 * 6) *****"Muura was a female Keshiri who was skilled in the many arts, ways, and emotions of her people and was attendant to the Sith Tyro Vestara Khai, who Muura often praised for her beauty, in 41 ABY." Sligh run-on. Split the sentences up and add-on to them a little.
 * 7) ******Addressed.....
 * 8) *******Much better. I'll review the P&T soon.
 * 9) * "She was the attendant to Vestara Khai, the only daughter of Gavar and Lahka Khai, and would pore over making her beautiful and would praise her for her beauty even as Vestara thought her normality and plainness outshone her in that area." Run-on
 * 10) **Addressed
 * 11) * P&T- "She was confused by the sadness in the house as Vestara left and as her father approached her to tell her she would not be needed as Vestara's attendant anymore, as Vestara would be living in the Sith Temple." Run-on
 * 12) **Addressed
 * 13) * "Muura stood about six inches shorter than the 14 year old Vestara and had a slight lilting accent." Can you reword to make it less colloquial?
 * 14) **Hopefully addressed
 * 15) ***No, I see that you added "Standing about six inches shorter than a regular human teenage girl". Less colloquial.
 * 16) ***Your describing the way she looks, and this should go into the P&T. "Standing about six inches shorter than a regular human teenage girl, Muura, like many of her race, had soft purple skin and a lilting accent that had stayed with many of the Keshiri even after thousands of years spent with humans."
 * 17) ****Addressed
 * 18) *****I'm crossing this for now. I'll go into more detail when I review the P&T.
 * 19) * P&T- "She was confused by the sadness in the house as Vestara left and as her father approached her to tell her she would not be needed as Vestara's attendant anymore, as Vestara would be living in the Sith Temple." Improper English, slight run-on.
 * 20) **Addressed
 * 21) * Can you look up a quote for her biography?
 * 22) **Addressed
 * 23) * "Muura was seen as part of the Khai family and an equal, but a servant none the less." Improper English.
 * 24) **Addressed
 * 25) *<span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * 1) **I'll give it another review later. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * 1) Floyd:
 * 2) *Before I even start, this isn't 250 words. It's currently stands at 230.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 04:45, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) **Addressed
 * 4) Fett ' s second look
 * 5) * P&T-"Standing about six inches shorter than a regular human teenage girl, Muura, like many of her race, had soft purple skin and a lilting accent that had stayed with many of the Keshiri even after thousands of years spent with humans." Less colloquial, and it's a run-on. Try to describe her, but don't compare. It's rather redundant that your explaining about her species rather than herself.
 * 6) **Addressed
 * 7) * "Muura happily put up with her mistress' unhappiness at the marring scar on her face, unendingly praising Vestara's beauty." Context on mistress. "put up" and "happily" need to be less colloquial.
 * 8) **Addressed
 * 9) * "The Keshiri girl, like many of her people, was plainly dressed and was pristine—even beautiful by human standards." Mention this eariler. It is redundant that you explain the way she looks in the first sentence in the P&T, and then you go about and explain it again with different words later on. Try to merge this with the first sentence, but split them up to avoid a run-on. "Human Standards"? What are the human standards? Remove.
 * 10) **Addressed
 * 11) * "Muura adorned Vestara's skin with these ancient markings, particularly a delicate dalsa flower, on the morning that Khai would become a Sith apprentice under Lady Rhea." Improper English. What ancient markings? You describe what these "ancient markings are" but then it doesn't connect with the next part of this sentence. It sounds like you're saying "She adorned Vestara's skin with these ancient marking on the morning that Khai would become a Sith apprentice." Try to reword this sentence and add context to characters you introduce again in the P&T, like Khai. This sentence needs to flow better.
 * 12) **I hope that's better...addressed
 * 13) * "Vestara's father approached Muura to tell her she would not be needed as Vestara's attendant anymore, as Vestara would be living in the Sith Temple." This doesn't belong in the P&T. Try to merge this in the bio.
 * 14) **Addressed
 * 15) * More to come <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * 1) From the Council Chambers:
 * 2) * "Muura would fawn over Vestara, praising her beauty even as Vestara thought Muura's normality and plainness outshone her own attractiveness. Muura was confused by the sadness in the house as Vestara left for the Temple." The jump from one thought to another here is quite jarring. Try adding some detail about her decorating Vestara prior to leaving.
 * 3) *&mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 17:44, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) **Hopefully addressed...
 * 5) The Grand Master
 * 6) * I just checked Omen, and nowhere in the novel could I find anything that stated even implicitly that Muura "was skilled in the many arts, ways, and emotions of her people". If you can find a passage that backs this sentence up, could you please let me know; otherwise, this information will have to be removed.
 * 7) **I hope this works
 * 8) ***I'm afraid you misunderstand. I can't find anything in the novel that says that Muura was skilled in the arts, ways, and emotions of her people. Unless you can point out to me where it states this; and prove that this is not just an assumption, then it must be removed.
 * 9) ****Alright, that should work, arts being vor'shandi markings if that helps any. If not I will get rid of the last few words that I left.
 * 10) *****What I meant is that you cannot prove this information. It is not stated anywhere in the novel that she was skilled in anything other than braiding hair and making vor'shandi markings, both of which you mention later. I have gone ahead and removed this.
 * 11) * Also, I can't find anything in Omen that mentions that the Khai family saw Muura as an equal. Unless you can point out a specific occurance, this is OR, and must also be removed.
 * 12) **Addressed
 * 13) * Make sure there is no other redendant repetition of info between the P&t and bio. For example: you mention how Muura praised Vestara for her beauty in the bio and the P&t; this should probably be moved to just the P&t. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 15:52, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 14) **I am not exactly sure what to do with this request, as both paragraphs flow better with the information already put forth. In the Bio I use this information to say that though plain Vestara found Muura more attractive.  In the P&t I explain moreover her personality that is shown in the novel.
 * 15) ***The point is that some of this information is out of place; the example I provided should be placed in just the P&t. I have gone ahead and fixed these. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 00:35, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 16) ****Ah...I see, I figured I could do something like that....Oh well, thanks anyway.
 * 17) One more question: where does it say in Omen that Gavar approached Muura to tell her she would no longer be needed as Vestara's attendant. I don't see this anywhere in the novel, either.  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 23:01, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 18) **Ha, this feels strangely like deja'vu(or however), no it does not say he tells her this, just that he approaches her. Hopefully I have fixed this.

Comments
 * After looking over the objections, I must say in some what my own defense that when I say she shows up for relatively 10 seconds, I mean it. Also she only says two lines in the whole book, so adding another quote sort of hard.  So I have to wonder, have you actually read Omen?--Darth Niffoc 15:37, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Regardless if any of the objectors have read the book, you still need to adhere to the GAN requirements. Rule 17 clearly states that any GAN needs to be 250 words, which this article is not. The amount of time that she appears in the book is irrelevant: if she can't get over 250 words, she shouldn't be here. If there isn't enough information for her to meet the word requirement, then she isn't eligible for a GAN.  CC7567  (talk) 16:06, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, please note that it's not required for objectors to be familiar with the media the article's subject appears in. None of the objections so far appear out of line, and none of them are related to the content of the book, aside from those about the article's length. It's up to you to decide whether or not adding another quote would be suitable, but that should not be based on how hard it is to find it.  CC7567  (talk) 16:16, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I would first like to apologize for my above statement as it now seems to me rude and unneeded. And furthermore I have also fixed at least a few of the problems above (if not created more) and hope it is more suitable to the required formats of this site.--Darth Niffoc 16:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Make sure you "address" the objections above.  JangFett  Talk 17:03, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * This is probably going to sound pretty sad, but I haven't been here all that long, so I must inquire what exactly does "adressing" objections imply??--Darth Niffoc 17:35, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Let me elaborate. Most people on Wook tend to post "Fix", "Addressed" or simple comments after they look over the objection and corrected what needs to be fix in the article. i.e., I said "Expand the intro" as an objection. You then need to place #**Addressed or whatever comment you like to say, below the objection. Once you address it, the person who wrote the objection will look over the nominator's correction and then either strike the objection or elaborate more on what needs to be fixed, if the nominator didn't correct it well enough.  JangFett  Talk 18:33, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Icehead

 * Nominated by: ~ SavageBob 02:47, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: This one goes out to all you hockey fans... ~ SavageBob 02:47, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

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Support
 * 1) Not a hockey fan, though.  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  01:06, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 04:20, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) Found nothing to say. Skippy Farlstendoiro 16:49, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4)  CC7567  (talk) 00:56, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) F-F-From the C-Council Ch-Ch-Chamberrrrrrrs:
 * 2) * "The Iceheads' eyes were blue quadrilaterals": In all of the pictures, they appear to be triangles, not quadrilaterals. Please correct or clarify.
 * 3) *And that's it. Great job. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 19:46, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) **Thanks for the review. Should be fixed now! (Everyone who supports gets an imaginary cup of hot cocoa, by the way.) ~ SavageBob 02:40, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) "who appeared riding": this is unclear; do you mean "they appeared to be riding", or simply "appeared riding", as in that's when the Iceheads caught sight of them? Please try to reword for clarity.  CC7567  (talk) 00:39, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) *I've tried to clarify it. Thanks! ~ SavageBob 00:52, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Shapers of Kro Var

 * Nominated by: Atarumaster88  Jedi_Order.svg ( Talk page ) 19:20, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: 928 words, by my count.

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Support
 * 1) Interesting. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 23:13, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) I wish there were some quotes available, but there's not. Oh well... &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 18:04, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3)  CC7567  (talk) 00:47, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4)  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 20:14, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Soresu
 * 2) * Peace was eventually restored and the Jedi decided that the Shapers weren't users of the dark side of the Force, and so sent envoys to monitor the Shapers and to learn their Force techniques. Break this up. 3 ands is a little bit too much for me.
 * 3) * their distrust of both technology, but also Force powers that were unseen. Both is not compatible with but. It should be either their distrust of both technology and Force powers that were unseen or their distrust of not only technology, but also Force powers that were unseen, or something like that.
 * 4) * determine which area of elemental control they possessed the most control. Repetition of control. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 09:06, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) **All fixed. Atarumaster88  Jedi_Order.svg ( Talk page ) 15:17, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Bel
> JangFett  Talk 15:47, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nominated by: <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * Nomination comments: 360 words, my count.

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Support
 * 1) --Clone Commander Lee 19:09, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) After the reviews below, I don't see any further problems. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 18:23, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) Good work.  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 20:17, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:16, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) Darth Trayus  Sith_Emblem.svg ( Trayus Academy ) 03:21, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Object


 * 1) Clone Commander Lee
 * 2) * He was killed on the third moon of Vassek and not on Vassek self.
 * 3) **Adressed
 * 4) * Is it anywhere stated that Bel befriended Niner or is that presumed.
 * 5) **It is likely that they're friends. Other examples would be CC-7567 and CC-2224.
 * 6) * Nowhere in youre article it is written that Niner and Bel informed the team that Grievous fighter was approaching.
 * 7) **Addressed, thanks for the review Lee.
 * 8) *Otherwise good. --Clone Commander Lee 18:31, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) The Grand Master
 * 10) * The first sentence of the bio and intro are identical. Please change one of them up a bit.
 * 11) **I used the same layout as my Axe GA.
 * 12) *** And, admittedly, I should have caught that one there, too :P. This one remains.
 * 13) ****Okay, changed. Added context for "Clone Wars" in the bio :P
 * 14) * "Fil paired Bel with fellow trooper Niner and were ordered to patrol their shuttle, while the rest of the group enters a nearby castle." Please correct: grammar and tense. Same tense problem in bio.
 * 15) **Addressed
 * 16) *** Please check the tense in both.
 * 17) ****Addressed, if it still remains I need some specifics.
 * 18) * "He served in Commander Fil's squad, whom accompanied recently promoted Jedi Knight Nahdar Vebb during a mission around 22 BBY." Grammar check&mdash;right now, the "whom" would technically be referring to the squad. Also, this sentence is from Fil's perspective, and so isn't really clear whether or not Bel went on the mission, too. (This also needs to be fixed in the bio.)
 * 19) **Addressed
 * 20) * The intro is a little too big proportionately to the bio.
 * 21) **I fixed it up a bit.
 * 22) * BTS could probably be expanded somewhat; e.g. add some context for Lair of Grievous.
 * 23) **Same with my Axe GA, I used the same layout. I once did add context for "Storm Over Ryloth", but it was cut. Thanks for the review Jonny :)
 * 24) *** That's fine, but I still think there's something that could be added, to beef it up a bit. Maybe just the episode's air date, or something of the like. And no problem man, anytime :). Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 19:13, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 25) ****Airdate added :)
 * 26) * Jonjedigrandmaster ( Jedi Beacon ) 18:37, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 27) Trayus
 * 28) * Tense issues in the intro, as Jonjedigrandmaster pointed out above.
 * 29) **Addressed.
 * 30) * In the intro, state why Fil ordered them to contact the fleet for reinforcements.
 * 31) **Addressed
 * 32) ***...where?
 * 33) ****Bah, sorry, addressed :P
 * 34) * Why were there MagnaGuards on that moon?
 * 35) **I placed General Grievous before the MagnaGuard link in the bio. Any more additional detail of them would be redundant.
 * 36) ***I was refering to the intro, and if you address the objection above, it should take care of this as well.
 * 37) ****Okay.
 * 38) * "and participated with the squad during the mission to the third moon of Vassek." - wording issues. This should read "Bel participated in a mission to the third moon of Vassek alongside the squad", or something like that.
 * 39) **Gah. I reworded it in the bio and fixed it up in the intro, hope that helps :)
 * 40) * You make it sound as though Fisto and Vebb were the mission leaders from the beginning. Make it clear that Fisto met Vebb and his forces only after they reached the surface the moon.
 * 41) **Addressed
 * 42) * More tense issues in the bio. Never ever use "enters". Please replace all instances with "entered".
 * 43) **Thanks for the tip Trayus :) I reworded it.
 * 44) * Who's ship was approaching? You need to specify.
 * 45) **Addressed
 * 46) * Why did Fil need reinforcements? You need to specify.
 * 47) **Addressed
 * 48) * You can't really say that Bel befriended Niner. There's no evidence to support that.
 * 49) **Speculation removed.
 * 50) * Can you find a picture of Bel only for the infobox?
 * 51) **I'm going to move the current infobox image to the bio and place a cropped image of Bel in the infobox. Thanks for the review Trayus.
 * 52) * Darth Trayus Sith_Emblem.svg ( Trayus Academy ) 21:31, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 53) The Grand Master: Part II
 * 54) * "Eventually, Fil ordered them to contact their fleet for reinforcements, due to the lack of support the group had." "Lack of support the group had" is rather vague. I think this could be worded more a little more clearly, or at least less colloquially.
 * 55) **Addressed
 * 56) * The purpose of the mission should be stated in the intro and bio.
 * 57) **Addressed
 * 58) * "Served" is used in both of the first two sentences of the intro; this should probably be varied. Also "the mission" is used twice in the same sentence in the bio.
 * 59) **Addressed
 * 60) * "Fil told both clone troopers to contact the fleet near the Inner rim planet of Bestine for reinforcements, due to the lack of support the group inside the castle had." The last part of this could be worded better grammatically; and it could also be made a little clearer.
 * 61) **Addressed
 * 62) *Good work, Jang :). Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 03:54, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 63) **Thanks for the 2nd review Jonny :)

Comments

Taris Civil Authority police cruiser

 * Nominated by: Nayayen [[Image:Old Republic military symbol.png|18px]] talk  21:49, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments From redlink to GA with only me editing it (bar Image>File bot), it's possible-ish.

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Support
 * 1) Remember not to link in quotes; otherwise it looks good after my copyedit. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 18:39, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Object

Comments

Ambition

 * Nominated by: Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 23:07, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: More DarkStryder to inflict on all you new GAN reviewers ...

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Support
 * 1) Looks neat for a short article. Andykatib 23:20, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Personally, I'd like to see the "description" merged with "history", but I'm not going to make a formal objection of it. &mdash;Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 19:07, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) Nice job, Cav. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 19:49, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) Assuming Soresu's objection will be addressed.  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 20:00, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 01:23, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) Nice.  CC7567  (talk) 00:53, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) That starship class template thingy is freaking me out. Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:04, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Soresu
 * 2) * By 8 ABY, the ship was part of Moff Kentor Sarne's military forces when he removed the Kathol sector from the authority of the Galactic Empire in 4 ABY, It's unclear what the dates are referring to. By 8 ABY in 4 ABY? SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 03:31, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) **Tweaked and rewritten slightly. - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 22:04, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * Yes, the description section is really small, but there are no individual stats for the vessel, and assuming it is a standard Carrack-class vessel would be supposition. It can be merged if needed. - Cavalier One FarStar Logo.jpg( Squadron channel ) 23:07, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

The Value of Proper Intelligence to Any Successful Military Campaign is Not to Be Underestimated

 * Nominated by:Kilson Likes PIE 01:38 18 July 09 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: A part of my on-and-off OOU campaign. The freaking name of this article is longer than the comic itself. :P

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Support
 * 1) Best acronym ever: tVoPItASMCiNtBU Nayayen [[Image:Old Republic military symbol.png|18px]] talk  09:55, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) It may be long, but it doesn't beat Roche -- Mauser  Comlink 10:23, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Nayayen
 * 2) * Is the "Development" section supposed to be the Bts? It should be renamed as such.
 * 3) **Yep, missed that. OOU articles are surpposed to have a Behind the scenes section and a development subsection in them.
 * 4) * Said section needs sourcing. I think there is a ref to the relevant Holocron link on the Gibbela native article.
 * 5) **OK, added.
 * 6) * Your decision as to whether to use or not. I don't think it is wholy needed with so few.
 * 7) *- Nayayen [[Image:Old Republic military symbol.png|18px]] talk 14:50, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) **I'm actually against, I think it makes small OOU articles look silly. I'll prefer not to use it. Thank you for the review. Kilson Likes PIE 07:16, 21 July 09 (UTC)

Comments > JangFett  Talk 02:14, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Is "polymorphing" even a word? While I was spell checking, I saw the word and didn't seem right. Possibly "polymorphic" would be better. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"

Vischera

 * Nominated by: Jinzler 12:40, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: a typical evil Imperial

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Support
 * 1) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 12:31, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Soresu
 * 2) * Maybe mention that he was partially insane in the intro.
 * 3) **Mentioned --Jinzler 12:23, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) * After months of research, Vischera finally succeeded in creating two fully obedient Felucians. He named them Hagark and Kargrek and after after is repetitive.
 * 5) **Fixed --Jinzler 12:23, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) * A little context on the Resistance.
 * 7) **Added --Jinzler 12:23, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) * waited in the facility’s command center to confront them, as the agents would have to pass through it if they were to escape from the prison. He waited with his Felucian bodyguards waited is repetitive.
 * 9) **Fixed --Jinzler 12:23, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) * making him very dangerous. Vischera was cruel and sadistic, making him well suited for Imperial service. Making is repetitive. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 23:38, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) **Fixed --Jinzler 12:23, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 12) The clone
 * 13) * "Vischera continued to perfect his alterations on the Felucians and kept alive subjects": it's unclear whether "alive" is an adjective pertaining to "subjects", or whether it's a unit with the verb as "kept alive", as in "keep him alive". Please try to reword for clarity.
 * 14) **Reworded --Jinzler 18:25, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 15) * "which could contracted by Felucian children": please check; this isn't making sense.
 * 16) **Oops.. it is fixed --Jinzler 18:25, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 17) *Can you provide more reasoning for his insanity and/or connect it more to the events? Otherwise, it's rather POV-oriented.  CC7567  (talk) 23:03, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 18) **Done in P&T. Do you want me to do this in the intro as well? --Jinzler 18:25, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 19) ***I still can't see your reasoning as to why he's insane. There needs to be evidence for his insanity, not reasons why he became insane.  CC7567  (talk) 22:47, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * No quotes, unfortunately Jinzler 12:40, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Krin D'bis

 * Nominated by: Jinzler 15:01, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Making good use of the Akial formula

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Support
 * 1) Excellent, very clean. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:06, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2)  CC7567  (talk) 23:08, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3)  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 00:23, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4)  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 05:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 06:34, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) IFYLOFD:
 * 2) * "A short time after her graduation, D'bis was picked to be an official representative of the Academy at a celebration that was being held on Dorumaa, the moon of Almas" Reword, because it sounds like D'bis was chosen while already at the celebration.
 * 3) **Reworded --Jinzler 11:18, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) **I see no change in the sentence.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 18:39, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) ***I did change it. I changed was being held to was going to be held. If you wanted me to change this further, then please let me know --Jinzler 20:05, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) ****Oh. I apologize.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 05:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) * "They traveled to Greentree Pointe resort on Dorumaa, where the celebration was being held and they set up a booth there, to try and recruit potential students for the Academy." Doesn't flow well.
 * 8) **Fixed --Jinzler 11:18, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) * Mention her species in the bio.
 * 10) **Mentioned --Jinzler 11:18, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) * "The campaign was a supplement to the Star Wars Roleplaying Game and Paarty On! was an interactive scenario, which was intended for use at roleplaying events." Doesn't flow well.
 * 12) **Fixed --Jinzler 11:18, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 13) *Nice work.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 21:25, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 14) **Thank you --Jinzler 11:18, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 15) Soresu
 * 16) * In the intro, instead of all that clumsy context for the Academy, you could just use "Almas Jedi Academy". It ptrovides the necessary context and varies the intro from the body.
 * 17) **Fixed --Jinzler 20:23, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 18) * You could mention in the P&T how she preferred a direct, aggressive solution to the problem of the Believers. SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 23:12, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 19) **Fixed --Jinzler 20:23, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Takara Mountains

 * Nominated by: Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 20:25, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Because it felt so odd not having a nom on here. As expected: more Omen/WP:LE

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Support > JangFett  Talk 20:40, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Nice work Jonny :) <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * 1) Good job.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 21:29, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Clean as a whistle.  Graestan ( Talk ) 22:13, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) Provided that you create Category:Kesh locations - but well done nonetheless. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 16:42, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) *Done. Thanks for the reviews, everyone. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 22:45, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 5)  CC7567  (talk) 23:48, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Attack of the Clone
 * 2) * Somehow, the "History" quote is unsourced.
 * 3) ** *Facepalm*. I just added that, and I guess I forgot :P. Fixed now.
 * 4) * "Taking this as a sign that their gods, the Skyborn, were angry at them because of the heretic teachings of Adari Vaal." Can you check this? It has a rather abrupt ending.  CC7567  (talk) 23:35, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) **Fixed. Thanks for the review, CC. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 23:46, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * Added minor updates for Skyborn. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 23:06, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Apatros (colony)

 * Nominated by:  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 22:49, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Raised from a redlink. *sniff* They grow up so fast...

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Support
 * 1) Nice job, Floyd. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 01:12, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) SoresuMakashi ( Everything I tell you is a lie  the truth  ) 07:09, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3)  Mauser  Comlink 10:26, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4)  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 22:45, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) I'm seeing a lot of sentences starting with "The colony" or "The colony of Apatros." Could you vary this up with a few synonyms, or perhaps restructure a few sentences? (I understand why you can't just call it "Apatros," but still.) Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 16:46, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) *Addressed.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 02:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Underwater Dweller

 * Nominated by: ~ SavageBob 06:20, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: U is for Underwater Dweller. Conjecturally speaking, of course. ~ SavageBob 06:20, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

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Support
 * 1)  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 05:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) IFYLOFD:
 * 2) * "Many members of the species inhabited the Underwater Kingdom, below the surface of Sunshine Lake on the Forest Moon of Endor. Most of these lived in large caves" Are the caves in the Underwater Kingdom? Clarify.
 * 3) * "Meanwhile, a bigger member of the species, Orcon, lived alone in his personal stronghold, a cave within an underwater mountain." This seems out of place at the end of the paragraph.
 * 4) * History section in general doesn't flow very well.
 * 5) * "He rescued them from drowning and dragged them into his people's underwater lair." Using the word "dragged" indicates that he brought them to the grotto against their will.
 * 6) *Nice work.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 18:33, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) **Thanks for your notes. I've tried to address everything you mentioned. What do you think? ~ SavageBob 00:17, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) ***Looks good.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 05:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Battle of Nexus Ortai
> QuiGonJinn (Talk) 15:49, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nominated by: <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * Nomination comments: First TCW battle nom.

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Support
 * 1)  Mauser  Comlink 13:35, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Object > QuiGonJinn (Talk) 18:28, 20 July 2009 (UTC) > QuiGonJinn (Talk) 17:07, 20 July 2009 (UTC) > JangFett  Talk 17:01, 20 July 2009 (UTC) > QuiGonJinn (Talk) 13:29, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Fett
 * 2) * You can expand the intro a little to make it proportionately to the battle.
 * 3) **Ok, I've expanded it a bit. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * 1) * Missing sources. You need to source "c. 22 BBY" to the TCW novel, and then source the rest to Shipyards.
 * 2) **I don't think it is necessary. The opening text of Shipyards states that the events are happening "in the early days" of the Clone Wars, so that pretty much means c.22 BBY. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * 1) ***I looked at the graphic novella as well, that should be fine then :)
 * 2) *Good work, I'll give it a another review soon :) <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * 1) Mauser:
 * 2) * I'm pretty sure Ghost Squadron is not the same as the Ghost Company. A proper article for the squadrom must be created.
 * 3) **Addressed.
 * 4) * At least one more image for the article is needed.
 * 5) **Added one to the "aftermath" section. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * 1) * Mauser  Comlink 10:32, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Broadside (clone)

 * Nominated by: --Clone Commander Lee 18:40, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: My 2nd nom. Thanks to JangFett for the pre-perview

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Support

Object > JangFett  Talk 18:43, 20 July 2009 (UTC) > JangFett  Talk 23:04, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Fett
 * 2) * Missing quote in the bio. And if you can, add a quote in the P&T
 * 3) **Adressed.
 * 4) ***And the bio?
 * 5) ****I didn't found one.
 * 6) *****What about his quote/the Squadron motto from Shadow of Malevolence?
 * 7) ******Already the head quote.
 * 8) *Add another image in the bio.
 * 9) **I'll ask JMAS.
 * 10) ***Added.
 * 11) * "Kamino" in the infobox is missing a reference
 * 12) **Adressed.
 * 13) * P&T-"He also was used to bet with his good friend Matchstick about the outcome of their missions." Where does it say that Matchstick was is good friend? If you cannot find anything to back it up, remove it.
 * 14) **Adressed.
 * 15) * P&T-"He was proud of his squadron and quoted the Squadron motto in front of his Jedi commanders." Less colloquial. What Squadron motto?
 * 16) **Adressed.
 * 17) ***Not addressed. What I mean is add his line from Shadow of Malevolence.
 * 18) ****Which line ?
 * 19) *****The motto is fine. But change Jedi Commanders to Skywalker, since he addressed Broadside.
 * 20) ******Fixed.
 * 21) * Lee, your missing sources in the sources section.
 * 22) **Which exact ?
 * 23) ***Check the episode guide, the TCG Clone Wars card pack, Visual guides.
 * 24) ****Fixed.
 * 25) * Rewrite the entire B&T. Make sure you link it properly and explain his roles in both Procedure and Shadow of Malevolence.
 * 26) **Adressed.
 * 27) ***Nevermind, I did it myself. Source "Broadside was voiced by Dee Bradley Baker, who voices all of the clone troopers in The Clone Wars television series." to the episode guide.
 * 28) ****Fixed.
 * 29) *More to come Lee. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * 1) You need to merge the first two sentences to make them flow better. More coming, perhaps.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 01:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) *Fixed.
 * 3) Your sources section is completely empty. Please, address this before you nominate an article. Darth Trayus  Sith_Emblem.svg ( Trayus Academy ) 06:38, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) *Fixed.
 * 5) Fett's second look
 * 6) *"Skywalker ordered Broadside to "form up", as he was "drifting" out of formation. Broadside replied that it was due to the fact that the "bird needed a bit more work", at which Skywalker responded by saying that when he was done tuning them, the Separatist would not know what hit them." This sentence is quite confusing. For the "bird needed", does that mean his Y-wing? Context is needed then. I wouldn't say "Separatists" as a whole. Either "Grievous" or the "battle droids controlling the Malevolence ' s turbolasers" would work here.
 * 7) *Fixed.
 * 8) *"But due to the dense defense fire Tano convinced Skywalker to aboard the plan and destroy the starboard ion cannons." What dense defense fire? This sentence is more aimed at the viewers poi. Yes, there was a lot of fire which convinced her to tell Skywalker that they need a new plan. Rewrite this sentence, however, try not to make it Ahsoka's poi, since the main focus is Broadside. Mention that she advised Skywalker that they need a new plan; but straight to-the-point.
 * 9) *Fixed.
 * 10) *<span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * 1) Mauser:
 * 2) * Need quote from bio. The one from Procedure should do.
 * 3) **Added.
 * 4) ***You're quoted it wrong, please re-check.
 * 5) ****Bad mistake. Corrected
 * 6) * Context on Fett clones.
 * 7) **Fixed.
 * 8) * Context on Twilight.
 * 9) **Can't see it.
 * 10) **Fixed.
 * 11) ***Fixed
 * 12) * "Encountering resistance..." - what sort of resistance? You make it sound like they were under fire.
 * 13) **Fixed.
 * 14) ***I meant that the term "resistance" is wrong here. "Protest" maybe.
 * 15) * It was Matchstick who talked to the clone trooper, not Broadsise.
 * 16) *Fixed.
 * 17) * "...clearance required to enter the hangar. Broadside and the rest of Shadow Squadron departed the facility..." - one sentence they enter the hangar, the next one they depart from the facility. Clarify.
 * 18) **Fixed.
 * 19) * "Plo Koon asked Skywalker if Shadow Squadron was able to carry out the assigned task." - how is this relevant to Broadside?
 * 20) **Removed.
 * 21) ***Still: is that bit of conversation really relevant?
 * 22) ****Yes, I think so.
 * 23) * "Upon entering the nebula" - which nebula?
 * 24) **Fixed.
 * 25) * Context for Neebray mantas.
 * 26) **Adressed.
 * 27) ***Can't see it.
 * 28) ****Adressed.
 * 29) * You say that the Malevolence fired it's ion cannon at the squadron after the mention of Matchstick's death, though the events are related.
 * 30) **Fixed.
 * 31) * Check if he has a TCSWE entry. Also check the Clone Wars Visual Guide.
 * 32) **Checked.
 * 33) *The whole article reads too much like a straight line of sentences, many of which begin with no apparent connection with the previous ones. Use words like "Later", "Soon", "Shortly after" more often.
 * 34) **Fixed.
 * 35) ***Only see a couple of instances. You need to check the flow of the prose for the entire article, because I will be coming after it anyway.
 * 36) ****Fixed.
 * 37) *Serious underlinking. You need to link to articles like Battle of the Kaliida Nebula, Starfighter combat, death and many others.
 * 38) **Fixed.
 * 39) ***No. Not by a long shot. You don't link to Kaliida Nebula, Battle of Ryndellia, Bantha formation etc. Check the entire article and link as many subjects as you can, especially relevant ones.
 * 40) ****Fixed.
 * 41) *Definitely more to come.  Mauser  Comlink 11:00, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Chopper

 * Nominated by:  CC7567  (talk) 06:20, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Read one, read 'em all.

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Support
 * 1) Get to the choppa!  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 05:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) I suppose it's worthy for GA title.--Kreivi Wolter 19:59, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) IFYLOFD:
 * 2) * In the intro, provide why he strung together the battle droid fingers, since this action is unexplained and seems rather random.
 * 3) **Addressed.
 * 4) * "When Clone Captain CC-7567 and Clone Commander CC-2224 interrogated the members of Slick's squad to locate a possible Confederate spy, Chopper at first lied about his whereabouts, and his sergeant suggested that he was the spy. " If Chopper was not actually the spy, why would he lie about his whereabouts?
 * 5) **Addressed.
 * 6) * Context for the north and south towers.
 * 7) **It's self-contextualizing; the "tower" establishes that they were buildings, and I don't see what more can be said without adding fluff.
 * 8) * Why would Chopper insult the crippled Christophsian? Clarify.
 * 9) **Addressed.
 * 10) * "Slick suggested that Chopper was the spy, but while stating to the trooper his right to silence, the sergeant revealed that he was aware that the Jedi had left on a confidential mission to search for information." Doesn't flow well and the "stating his trooper the right to silence" doesn't fit in the sentence well.
 * 11) **I can't change the wording without making it colloquial, and if you have something to suggest, I'd be happy to hear it.
 * 12) * State how they found out for sure that Slick was the spy, since it jumps from Chopper accusing him to you calling Slick the spy.
 * 13) **Clarified.  CC7567  (talk) 21:16, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 14) * IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 21:00, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 15) Mauser:
 * 16) *His hair is dyed, isn't it?
 * 17) **...I really can't tell.
 * 18) ***All Jango clones have black hair so, just like with Rex and Gree, his hair has to be dyed.
 * 19) ****Addressed.  CC7567  (talk) 23:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 20) * Why would Jango's clone have different eye colors? Related to the injure that gave him the scar, no?
 * 21) **It's highly probable, but I'm still rather cautious to assume. It could be that he thinks it's stylish, so I don't know if it was from his injury.
 * 22) ***Alright, no speculations then.
 * 23) * If the infobox says he was born on Kamino, it should be in the body as well.
 * 24) **Addressed.
 * 25) * A short, one-sentence context on the fact that he was a clone of Jango Fett, born on Kamino and trained for the future GAR.
 * 26) **I can see the sense of adding everything except the "future GAR"; his birthdate isn't known, and it's just too much unrelated info.
 * 27) *"Chopper loathed the Confederate battle droids, believing that they "owed him something." - doesn't that belong in P&T instead of bio?
 * 28) **It's in both, albeit with different phrasing.
 * 29) ***It looks a bit redundant in the bio. Also, the current wording is awkward: "he was a member of Clone Sergeant Slick's squad, and Chopper loathed the Confederate battle droids...".
 * 30) ****Addressed.  CC7567  (talk) 23:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 31) * How did Slick's awareness of the Jedi's abscence reveal him as a traitor?
 * 32) **Addressed, but I'm trying to avoid adding any more because of irrelevancy.  CC7567  (talk) 16:17, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 33) ***Well, in this case it just had to be clarified.  Mauser  Comlink 17:21, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Gus

 * Nominated by:  CC7567  (talk) 06:20, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Read one, read 'em all.

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Support
 * 1) Good enough.--Kreivi Wolter 00:09, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2)  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 05:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) The head
 * 2) * It should be mentioned that he yanked the tactical droid's head off. --Kreivi Wolter 20:10, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) **Added.  CC7567  (talk) 21:28, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) IFYLOFD:
 * 5) * Context on the North and south towers.
 * 6) **Again, self-contextualizing, and I don't see why more is necessary.
 * 7) * Tell how Gus was injured in the battle.
 * 8) **It wasn't verified, but I added the bit that he was actually injured.
 * 9) * Why would Cody and Rex suspect that there was a spy? Clarify.
 * 10) **It was Kenobi's reasoning, and he didn't clarify it himself; it was more of a suggestion, hence why it's the "possibility" of a spy. I don't see enough reason to mention Kenobi here because it's not directly related to Gus.
 * 11) ***Well, Kreivi Wolter's Tactical droid 1 (Christophsis) article says that they obtained that info after performing a robolobotomy on that droid.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 21:50, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 12) ****I'm familiar with the episode, thank you, but I'm still failing to see how this nitpicking is necessary. If I say that Cody and Rex analyzed the droid, then I have to mention the Jedi, and regardless of whether it helps set the stage for the rest of the article, it's simply not relevant to Gus himself. If you still feel that it needs to be added, please provide me with your reasoning.  CC7567  (talk) 22:46, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 13) ****Well, actually the head didn't revealed that there was a spy, it just confirmed that the separatists had somehow gained the information about Republic's location.--Kreivi Wolter 00:07, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 14) * Furthermore, are Cody and Rex's nicknames really necessary?
 * 15) **No, I suppose they aren't.
 * 16) ***Nevermind; they're necessary because that's what the other clones addressed them as, and it's confusing if there are both clone designations and nicknames in there.  CC7567  (talk) 21:38, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 17) * Explain why Chopper's stringing battle droid fingers together is bad, and explain why Gus thought Chopper was "deficient".
 * 18) **Addressed the former, but the latter wasn't expanded upon, and I can't draw any conclusions without going into speculation.  CC7567  (talk) 21:28, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 19) *Nice work.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 21:06, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Jester (clone)

 * Nominated by:  CC7567  (talk) 06:20, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Read one, read 'em all.

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Support
 * 1)  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 05:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) IFYLOFD:
 * 2) * Biography quote is messed up.
 * 3) **Addressed.
 * 4) * "After the clone troopers returned to the base, Jester cleaned his blaster as his habit after every battle." Is this really notable enough to put in the intro?
 * 5) **Yes, because it's a "habit"; I don't see why not. It makes him different from the others, which is why I put it in.
 * 6) * Context needed on North and south towers.
 * 7) **Again, self-contextualizing until I see why it's necessary.
 * 8) * Explain why Cody and Rex would suspect there was a spy in the ranks.
 * 9) **See above...somewhere.
 * 10) * Are the nicknames for Cody and Rex really necessary?
 * 11) **See above for Gus.  CC7567  (talk) 21:39, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 12) *Nice work.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 21:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 13) Mauser
 * 14) * In the bio you should say that he was Jango's clone, born on Kamino and trained to be a part of the future GAR - all the same as for Chopper (and other clones too).
 * 15) **Addressed.  CC7567  (talk) 16:20, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 16) *Otherwise very nice.  Mauser  Comlink 11:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 17) *One more thing. Have you considered moving the article to Jester, and that one - to Jester (Carrack-class)? Makes sense to me.  Mauser  Comlink 12:22, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 18) **I might if I have more time later to get after all the redirects. I'll consider it.  CC7567  (talk) 16:20, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Punch

 * Nominated by:  CC7567  (talk) 06:20, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Read one, read 'em all.

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Support
 * 1) Nice work.  Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 23:56, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2)  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 05:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 3)  Mauser  Comlink 17:29, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) Just two more to go...
 * 2) * Once again, context on the north and south towers.
 * 3) * Tell why Cody and Rex thought there was a spy.
 * 4) * Are Cody and Rex's nicknames necessary?
 * 5) * P&T quote?
 * 6) **None available, and the rest, see above.  CC7567  (talk) 21:40, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) *Nice work.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 21:22, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) Mauser:
 * 9) * Again, need to state that he the clone of Jango, born on Kamino, trained to be a part of GAR.
 * 10) **Addressed.
 * 11) * One of your quotes is with an audio file, the other one isn't. They should be of the same format, either remove one audio file, or ask JMAS for the second one.
 * 12) **I'll ask JMAS, but if this is for superficial reasons, it really shouldn't be an objection.  CC7567  (talk) 16:22, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 13) *** I just thought that all quotes should follow the same format, but you are probably right.
 * 14) *Otherwise all clear.  Mauser  Comlink 11:35, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Sketch

 * Nominated by:  CC7567  (talk) 06:20, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Read one, read 'em all.

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Support
 * 1)  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 05:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2)  Mauser  Comlink 17:30, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Object
 * 1) IFYLOFD:
 * 2) *<S>Why would Cody and Rex believe there was a spy?
 * 3) * Are Cody and Rex's nicknames really necessary?
 * 4) * IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 21:26, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) **See above somewhere.  CC7567  (talk) 21:40, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) Mauser:
 * 7) * Fix "The Kamino thingie" from above and it's done.  Mauser  Comlink 11:38, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) **Thanks for your reviews.  CC7567  (talk) 16:22, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

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 * I'll get the squad itself done...someday.  CC7567  (talk) 06:20, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Hawk (clone)

 * Nominated by:  CC7567  (talk) 08:16, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Looks like it's clone day for me.

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 * 1) Mauser:
 * 2) *I am unsure about how you deducted Hawk's death at Teth. The scene was cut from the movie, so that variation remains only a deleted scene. The canonical variation appears in the novel, which does not say that Hawk was the pilot of the gunship, and it previously mentioned him a lot. The episode guide doesn't say that Hawk was the pilot of the gunship in the novel, it only says that Hawk was supposed to be the pilot from the film in a scene that was cut. It even says that the removing of the scene "may have ended up saving Hawk's life". All that, especially the note from the Episode Guide led me to believe that the pilot of the shot gunship in the novel was a pilot other than Hawk. Please double-check.
 * 3) **It sounds like you're basing your statement off of the "likelihood" that Hawk would have been identified in the novel as the pilot of the destroyed gunship. Just because he was mentioned extensively in the past and wasn't identified as the pilot of the destroyed gunship later does not mean that he wasn't the pilot. There is absolutely no reason that the film's "variation" is not canonical; it corresponds completely to the novel's version, and I can't note any major differences except for those in dialogue. Furthermore, from the episode guide: "Clone pilot Hawk was originally in the Clone Wars movie, called by Anakin for an extraction from the B'omarr monastery on Teth. That sequence was cut from the movie -- which may have ended up saving Hawk's life, because as it originally played out, that rescue gunship would have been shot down by a vulture droid." This is clearly referring to the scene of the Vulture droid shooting down the gunship, and it even says he was "called for an extraction" from the monastery, which is what the novel supplied. You're right that the episode guide does not confirm Hawk as the pilot of the gunship in the novel, but it indirectly does because the deleted scene corresponds to the one in the novel, which is how I drew my conclusion.  CC7567  (talk) 20:21, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) ***It was the note "may have ended up saving Hawk's life" that confused me most. But I accept your explanation unless some new info comes up. Will give a full review later.  Mauser  Comlink 20:27, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) ****That did catch me too, but I'm assuming that the episode guide is just joking or misinformed; the lack of a reference to the novelization supports the latter.  CC7567  (talk) 20:31, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) *****That's still speculation though. Cut content is cut content and is non-canon. Even though the deleted scene may be mostly the same as the one that made the novelization, extrapolating details from the cut scene borders on OR. — Milo Fett [Comlink] 23:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) ******I understand your reasoning, but the two scenes are identical, and it's common sense to draw the conclusion if they're like this. This is speculation, yes, but it's still referencing based on fact.  CC7567  (talk) 00:58, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) *******Based on deleted fact. Unless there's an official source that confirms that the scene in the novelization and the deleted scene are both canon, we can't just assume. I think it's likely that he died as well, but there's just not enough canonical information to make an assumption without OR. Other deleted scenes have been re-integrated into canon in slightly different ways (e.g., Tosche Station scene) so this could just as easily be one of them. — Milo Fett [Comlink] 02:02, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) ********I'm still finding that there are enough similarities between the two scenes to draw the conclusion, and until different reasoning is provided, this is the way it's staying.  CC7567  (talk) 06:39, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) ********* I made changes before I noticed it was nominated, but I see that the issue I was trying to address is the being discussed here. I corrected this problem some time ago based on the following precedents: Shaak Ti and Dash Rendar. Both characters had death scenes that were reverted to keep their characters for future use in the Expanded Universe. Shaak Ti was killed by Grievous in a cutscene from Episode III, and Dash Rendar was killed in a collision during the explosion of the Falleen's Fist in the novelization. Gethralkin 22:56, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) **********Gethralkin, this has already been settled, and it's already been changed in the article. I don't see what the point of continuing the discussion is.  CC7567  (talk) 22:59, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 12) ***********Having a slow computer day today. The changes weren't showing up on my end. Gethralkin 23:04, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 13) IFYLOFD:
 * 14) * "Lieutenant Hawk later served in the Battle of Teth, ferrying Skywalker, his Padawan, Ahsoka Tano, Clone Captain CC-7567, and a squad of troops to the surface of Teth. " Reword, since it sounds like Skywalker's Padawan and Ahsoka and separate entities.
 * 15) **Addressed.
 * 16) *In the intro: Context for Rotta the Huttlet and for why Anakin and Ahsoka were looking for him in the first place.
 * 17) **The context is "Huttlet", and I don't see why more context would be relevant or necessary to the intro.  CC7567  (talk) 21:35, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 18) ***No, it is not. That's only stating Rotta's species. And context is relevant as to tell why they were there in the first place.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 21:41, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 19) *Nice work.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 21:31, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 20) Mauser redux:
 * 21) *Born on Kamino. Clone of Jango. Trained to be a pilot. - add that to the bio.
 * 22) *"CC-7567 and a squad of troops": not just squad - the Torrent Company. Both in intro and the bio.
 * 23) *No links in quotes are allowed, right?
 * 24) *Maybe Armor and Appearance could be merged into P&T?
 * 25) *The Pocketmodels card of Hawk for some strange reason shows him in regular Phase I clone trooper armor instead of the pilot gear. Good BTS material.
 * 26) *Now, I really hate to say this, but: Star Wars: The Clone Wars (junior novelization), Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Battle at Teth, Star Wars: The Clone Wars Official Movie Storybook, Star Wars: The Clone Wars Official Movie Storybook and The Clone Wars: Decide Your Destiny: Tethan Battle Adventure all have to be checked for any appearances or indirect mentions of Hawk. I know this will take a while and I'm sorry, but that's what a movie nom means - even if it's the TCW movie.
 * 27) * Mauser  Comlink 11:52, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

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 * Don't worry, I made sure to confirm that it was under 1,000 words after I nominated it for FAN. 9_9  CC7567  (talk) 08:16, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Battle of Queel
> QuiGonJinn (Talk) 15:46, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nominated by: <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * Nomination comments: More TCW

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 * 1)  Mauser  Comlink 16:09, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Object > QuiGonJinn (Talk) 08:57, 22 July 2009 (UTC) > QuiGonJinn (Talk) 09:21, 22 July 2009 (UTC) > QuiGonJinn (Talk) 14:24, 22 July 2009 (UTC) > QuiGonJinn (Talk) 15:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) IFYLOFD:
 * 2) *Missing Aftermath section.
 * 3) **It is not really stated what happened on Queel after Skywalker and Tano left. After that point, the only mention of the battle comes at the very end of the comic. Skywalker and Tano contact Kenobi, who says the phrase used as the main quote in the article. However, Kenobi's words do not explain if he won, lost or was still fighting when Skywalker contacted him, so there can't be any aftermath section. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * 1) *Mention in the intro that Anakin and Obi-Wan were Jedi.
 * 2) **Mentioned.
 * 3) *Is CC-7567's nickname really necessary?
 * 4) **I think so. IMO, it is unnecessary to state CC-2224's nickname, because he is mentioned only once. CC-7567, however, is mentioned several times in the article and I find it easier to call him Rex.
 * 5) *"Tano then hurtled one of the artillery shells at the remaining guns," I don't think hurtled is the appropriate word here. I would think just putting "Force pushed" would be better, but do as you see fit.
 * 6) **Addressed, I guess
 * 7) *Is there an article for the Separatist agent who stole the data file? If so link to it, and if not create one.
 * 8) **Linked.
 * 9) *Nice work.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 21:39, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) **Thanks. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * 1) Mauser:
 * 2) * ?It's Acclamator, not Venator in the comic. =)
 * 3) **Whatever :P
 * 4) * Casualties: both light and heavy will not do. GAR lost at least one ISP with clones aboard, the CIS lost the artillery cannon and at least one DSD.
 * 5) **Addressed.
 * 6) * At least one more image is needed.
 * 7) **Added.
 * 8) * Add youmay to the Battle of Quell - i'm too lazy to do it myself today.
 * 9) **Added. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * 1) * No mention of that green water creature - whatever it's name is.
 * 2) **Mentioned. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * 1) *Otherwise looks very solid.  Mauser  Comlink 12:01, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

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Tactical droid 1 (Christophsis)

 * Nominated by: --Kreivi Wolter 19:58, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: Have this article to GA as soon as possible. I will need time to execute the next part of my master's plan.

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Object > JangFett  Talk 22:45, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) IFYLOFD:
 * 2) * Badly needs a copyedit for grammar and spelling. I've fixed a lot of it, but you should go over it for good measure.
 * 3) **There's the problem, I'm not a native speaker of English, and I'm not able to speak/write with that perfectly.--Kreivi Wolter 23:55, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) ***Ah, I see.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 05:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) * Mention that he served in the Retail Caucus, since that's mentioned in the infobox but not anywhere in the article itself.
 * 6) **Roger roger.--Kreivi Wolter 23:55, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) * " He had leaked the information about the planned ambush to the Separatist's commander and Dark Acolyte Asajj Ventress, who then gave the message to General Whorm Loathsom, who proceeded it to the tactical droid." I don't think "proceeded" is the appropriate word here.
 * 8) **Roger roger.--Kreivi Wolter 23:55, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) *"The Jedi Master and his clones were pinned down, but Skywalker, who was in north tower, signaled a gunship for an evacuation, and then led his clone troopers to help Kenobi along the cables." Doesn't flow well, and what cables? Give context.
 * 10) **Roger roger.--Kreivi Wolter 10:55, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) *"The Republic forces were able to retreat, and took an elevator to the roof, where the gunship was landing. " What gunship? Clarify.
 * 12) **Roger roger.--Kreivi Wolter 10:55, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 13) *"While they were attacked by a squad of battle droids, the tactical droid, who had left his tank, led a second squad of battle droids to attack, in order to prevent the retreat of the Republic troops." Doesn't flow well.
 * 14) **Roger roger.--Kreivi Wolter 10:55, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 15) * I don't think CC-7567's and CC-2224's nicknames is really necessary.
 * 16) **Roger roger.--Kreivi Wolter 23:55, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 17) *"The head then scorched, and disabled permanently, defacing any changes of further analyses." I can't really make sense of "The head then scorched", and I don't believe defacing is the appropriate word.
 * 18) **Roger roger.--Kreivi Wolter 10:55, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 19) * Also, how did it disable? Was it damaged previously?
 * 20) ** Gee, I dont really know how to put that... Uuuh, would it be good if I tell that it just deactivated?--Kreivi Wolter 00:43, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 21) ***I guess.  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 05:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 22) *"Later on in the Republic command center, the tactical droid's head was put to a robolobotomy, but it only confirmed that the Separatists had gained information about the positions of Republic ambush squad." Then how could they have found out there was a spy? Clarify.
 * 23) **Roger roger.--Kreivi Wolter 10:55, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 24) * "After a duel with Asajj Ventress, Skywalker and Kenobi discovered the full strength of the Separatists forces, as they had planned a full-scale invasion and conquest of the planet, and the tactical droid was replaced by another." Skywalker and Kenobi dueling Ventress and the tactical droid being replaced don't flow well together.
 * 25) **Roger roger
 * 26) * "He used his E-5 blaster rifle with comparable skill in battle, and managed to shoot at least one clone trooper during the firefight." I don't think "comparable" is the appropriate word here.
 * 27) **Roger roger.
 * 28) * IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 22:10, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 29) Fett
 * 30) * "They then asked the Jedi High Council for assistance" Whose they? The Confederacy asked the Jedi for assiastance? Also fragment.
 * 31) **Roger roger.--Kreivi Wolter 23:55, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 32) ***Could be somewhat better if "the Christophsians" is added as context for "&hellip;which inhabitants vainly tried to withstand the droid forces", but I'll leave that up to you :)
 * 33) ****Roger roger.--Kreivi Wolter 10:55, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 34) *"After landing, the Jedi planned to ambush the tactical droid's forces, while they were marching into Crystal City." This sentence doesn't flow right. I don't recall them marching into Crystal City.
 * 35) **Roger roger.--Kreivi Wolter 23:55, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 36) ***Quite confusing still. "After landing, the Jedi planned to ambush the tactical droid's forces, which were going to march under the towers" The Jedi planned to ambush the tactical droid's forces, which were going to march under the towers? Rephrase.
 * 37) ****Uuuh, I dont know where they were heading. Do you?--Kreivi Wolter 00:53, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 38) *****Replace the entire sentence with "After landing, the Jedi began an ambush on the towers", or something like that.
 * 39) ******Is it good now?--Kreivi Wolter 10:55, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 40) *More to come <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * 1) Mauser:
 * 2) * "Galactic Republic sent a GAR detachment, led by Jedi Generals Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker" - sent where and why?
 * 3) **Roger roger.--Kreivi Wolter 14:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) * Tactical droid is not the product line, something like IG-series or YT-series is. Thus, I removed that from the infobox.
 * 5) **Roger roger. Thx.--Kreivi Wolter 14:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) * The biography quote's link leads to the same audiofile as the main quote.
 * 7) **Roger roger.--Kreivi Wolter 14:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) *** If you use audio files for some quotes, you should do the same for the other two. Either remove the audios for the first two quotes, or ask JMAS for the missing one. Never mid, I've been told that it's not a valid onjection.
 * 9) ****Well, I have already asked JMAS to load it.--Kreivi Wolter 21:50, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) * "The Galactic Republic dispatched clone troopers..." - not just clone troopers, but 501st Legion and the Ghost Company.
 * 11) **Roger roger.--Kreivi Wolter 14:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 12) *There should be no revelations in battle articles. You should mention Slick's betrayal and the data's leaking before you say that the Jedi set up an ambush in the towers.
 * 13) **Roger roger.--Kreivi Wolter 21:50, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 14) * Split the biography section. The whole last paragraph is completely post-mortern for the droid and should be tagged as such.
 * 15) **Roger roger.--Kreivi Wolter 14:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 16) ***Rename it. Aftermath is for the events, Legacy is for Individuals (even droids).
 * 17) ****Roger roger.--Kreivi Wolter 19:43, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 18) * Actually, the last paragraph contains too much info irrelevant for the droid. Ventress' mission to capture Rotta shouldn't be mentioned at all, for example.
 * 19) **Roger roger.--Kreivi Wolter 19:43, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 20) *Check the video podcast for the Innocents of Ryloth for more info and better sourcing of the tactical droids' charactersitics and traits.
 * 21) **Could you please give me a direct link?--Kreivi Wolter 20:17, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 22) ***There.
 * 23) ****Roger roger.--Kreivi Wolter 23:31, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 24) *At least something else for the BTS?
 * 25) **Uuuh, the BTS? What's that?--Kreivi Wolter 14:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 26) ***Behind the Scenes. It requires minor expansion.
 * 27) ****Like what? What do you suggest?--Kreivi Wolter 23:31, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 28) *Roger roger.  Mauser  Comlink 13:07, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments > JangFett  Talk 22:47, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Also, do not source the intro. <span style="font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px"
 * 1) *Roger roger.--Kreivi Wolter 23:55, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Battle of Kashyyyk (New Sith Wars)

 * Nominated by:  IFYLOFD  ( You will pay the price for your lack of vision! ) 05:25, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: My first ever battle article. Let 'er rip.

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 * 1) "In the end it took almost two thousand Sith units, but Kashyyyk finally fell. The Sith had won." Is the number of Sith really necessary to mention here? Also, the wording is rather un-encyclopedic. Jonjedigrandmaster  ( Jedi Beacon ) 23:09, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

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Gor

 * Nominated by: Darth Trayus  Sith_Emblem.svg ( Trayus Academy ) 08:46, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination comments: First pet nom ever?

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 * 1)  Mauser  Comlink 18:27, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) --Kreivi Wolter 19:22, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

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 * 1) About Grievous
 * 2) * Grievous wasn't Supreme Commander, he was a Supreme Commander of the Droid Armies. There is a difference!
 * 3) **Fixed.
 * 4) * Grievous's and Gor's relation should be mentioned in Characteristics.
 * 5) **Now that it's biology and appearance, that information wouldn't really belong. Information that is largely difficult to write about in the first place, as it's never really concretely spoken of. Darth Trayus  Sith_Emblem.svg ( Trayus Academy ) 18:00, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) *--Kreivi Wolter 10:25, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) Mauser:
 * 8) * I believe you've checked both the Visual Guide and Grievous Attacks for any unique info?
 * 9) **Yup. He's kind of a straight-forward guy.
 * 10) * IMO, Characteristics should really be Biology and Appearance.
 * 11) **Good call.
 * 12) *Not sure what esle to add.  Mauser  Comlink 13:26, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 13) **Thanks for the review. Darth Trayus  Sith_Emblem.svg ( Trayus Academy ) 18:00, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

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 * I haven't seen a GA or FA for a specific nonsentient character before, so I just did a characteristics section and put its' appearance information in there. A personality and traits section just wouldn't have applied.