Talk:OOM-9/Legends

How is it possible that OOM-9 was deactivated in EpI and it appears in both EpII and III? - TopAce, 20:24 (GMT +1), 12th August, 2005. Where does it say that OOM-9 was reactivated and became a general? Unit121 Sep. 7 2005
 * I doubt he did. Looking at the edit history, that info was contributed by an anon. I removed it. Good catch. – Aidje talk 19:30, 12 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * I requested a source from the user who added that paragraph. I'm sure he'll provide one once he gets the message. – Aidje talk 05:10, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 * Please refer to my answer on my Talk page. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 20:03, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

oom-9
he shows up in clonewars too, but there's no informations about this. could anyone add that info?
 * He doesn't show up in the Clone Wars. Admiral J. Nebulax 15:47, 24 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 * I heard somewhere that he was in a ship that was shot down on Hypori, then i thought i saw him among the separatists Vader was hacking up...
 * Wrong, wrong. He was a command battle droid, one of many OOM-series commanders to be manufactured. Admiral J. Nebulax 21:36, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Here is the OOM-9 general info.
 * The majority of that is fanon. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:31, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Quote
I have to seriously disagree with your deletion of the quote, Nebulax. The "...they won't stay hidden for long" quote underscores OOM-9's dedication to carrying out the bidding of the Trade Federation. Cutch 21:33, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I suppose that it could serve as a lead-in quote. My only real problem with it is that in the movie, OOM-9 sounded like he had a Brooklyn accent. -- SFH 21:40, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Especially on the word "undahwattah". Cutch 21:42, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, quotes should be about the subject of the article, not what the subject of the article said. The whole quote only showed what OOM-9 was about to do. That's it. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 21:58, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * But the quote illustrates his character... er... programming. I mean... can you think of a better one? Cutch 22:33, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * How does it illustrate his character/programming? Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:09, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * "They won't stay hidden for long" = I'm going to ruthlessly do the job I've been given. Maybe that's just my skewed opinion, but that's the way I read it. Cutch 00:23, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, the thing is, the quote talks too much about the mission itself, not OOM-9. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:25, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * What about "Open fire!"? Cutch 20:31, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * You might can find a good one about him in Galactic Battlegrounds.--Rune Haako 20:56, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I hope so. No offense, Cutch, but "Open fire!" has less to do with OOM-9 than the last quote. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 21:40, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it was a joke on how few lines he has, LOL Cutch 21:56, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Just saying... Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:00, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * You see, I dunno... I think that the "... they won't stay hidden for long quote" (even if we take just that section) speaks just as much about OOM-9 as "Be smart, be victorious" or "Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try" speak about Ackbar and Yoda, respectively... and they have more lines to choose from than OOM-9 does. I'm not trying to be a negative Nancy about all this, but that's just the way I read the quote. Cutch 22:49, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * The thing is, I don't really care all that much about the Yoda and Ackbar articles. I think that those quotes should definitely be replaced, however. But perhaps Rune Haako's suggestion will provide us with a good quote. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:17, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, c'mon: the "parameters" quote is good. It shows that OOM-9 actually went above and beyond his programming. This is not a big deal. It's not like it's the quote for Luke or Vader. It's OOM-9: a droid in one movie with four lines. Cutch 05:29, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Not really. It's okay for now, or until a better quote might get found. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 12:47, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I doubt a better quote will be found&mdash;if so, I'll eat my hat. Cutch 15:16, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe there'll be a new book leading up into Episode I centered around battle droids that will give a great quote on OOM-9... I'm kidding, of course. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:30, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah... okay, we agree. Cool. ;) Cutch 05:40, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay. Still, I like the "I have a task..." one. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 13:15, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

COME ON!
--Rune Haako 22:08, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

I even put a note on the top of the page! Did you even click on the sorce?! Why is it that every time I try to help I'm just making it worse! I may be new at this wiki thing, but I am NOT an anon! I just wanted to make my first major edit on my favorite character! How was I supposed to know it was all fanon? You could at least apologize for saying that mean stuff about me! I have feelings to! - Not you, but Aidje did! -
 * Wikipedia is not a source, and I didn't say anything mean to you.--Rune Haako 15:03, 6 April 2006 (PDT)
 * We did not say anything mean. You're overreacting about the whole situation now. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 15:05, 6 April 2006 (PDT)
 * Who?--Rune Haako 22:08, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Then why are you complaining about that here? Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 15:10, 6 April 2006 (PDT)
 * I don't even see where Aidje said anything.--Rune Haako 22:11, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
 * It's probably on some other page that has nothing to do with this. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 22:14, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
 * This discussion is pointless, anyway. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 13:44, 7 April 2006 (PDT)

Edit
Why was my edit reverted? According to Galactic Battlegrounds manual, which gives a lot of canon info, he started as a normal battle droid. And his shoulders aren't painted yellow. So why the revert?
 * He was a command battle droid. And if this manual is the only place that says he started out as a normal battle droid, I doubt it. And it doesn't matter if his shoulders aren't painted or not. Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 20:09, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Nothing contradicts it, therefore ot his canon. And this article states his shoulders were painted yellow.
 * A Galactic Battlegrounds manual being canon? I don't think so. Games go against canon numerous times. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 21:50, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Nothing contradicts it. Battlegrounds is canon. OOM-9 being a standard combat droid is not a game mechanic. It might not be the firmest of sources but nothing contradicts it.
 * Galactic Battlegrounds is a game. And, like most other games, it probably goes against canon because of game play. I suggest we wait until a good source says that OOM-9 started off as a standard droid. Also, the command battle droids, pilot droids, and security droids were upgraded models. I don't think the Trade Federation would waste its time upgrading a standard droid to a command officer when they could just buy one. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 12:45, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
 * As I have just stated, OOM-9 being a standard combat droid has nothing to do with gameplay. You may not like it, but its canon.
 * But it goes against canon and make no sense. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 16:19, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
 * It DOESN'T go against canon.
 * Command battle droids have different backpacks than the regular B-1s. OOM-9 is not a standard battle droid - Kwenn 16:54, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * It really does go against canon because OOM-9 was an OOM-series command battle droid. There aren't "OOM-series battle droids", and the Trade Federation wouldn't upgrade a standard battle droid when they could just buy a command unit. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 16:55, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Can you quote the line or page that supports your theory? I have the manual, but can't find anything about this - Kwenn 16:59, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * It really doesn't matter anyway. OOM-9 was a OOM-series command battle droid from the beginning. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 19:27, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * As much as I try to let games fit into canon, I must agree with Admiral Nebulax. It's a minor source that doesn't make much sense. Battle droids probably don't get promoted. -Aiddat 23:18, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Exactly. It's a major error on the part of whoever wrote the manual. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:20, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Very well. Consensus is against me, I will concede the point. Fact relegated to me-canon :D.
 * Check out this new article: OOM officer droid. This should help. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 10:57, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Mind you, I feel battle droids must get promoted. If they don't, we should have an article for a corporal-class battle droid.
 * Battle droids don't get promoted. If they're going to have a rank, they get programmed with that rank. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 11:14, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry for re-starting an old topic, but this is ridiculous. The manual is a canon source - we can't just pick and choose what we accept for canon. .  .  .  .  00:06, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * But its ranking on the canon scale is most likely the lowest, excluding fanon. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 03:06, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It's C-Canon. We can't pick and choose. .  .  .  .  03:21, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * And where is it called C-canon? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 03:22, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Where is it called S-Canon, or N-Canon? .  .  .  .  03:34, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * And where is it called C-canon? See? It has no current canon status. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 03:37, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It's in a published, licenced LucasArts product. i.e canon. Messy canon, but canon nonetheless. Bit like the old Rune Haako problem. .  .  .  .  03:44, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, it's canon that there are different types of battle droids programmed for different functions. That basically overrrides the Galactic Battlegrounds manual. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 13:21, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I know what you're saying, but it still doesn't override the possibility of OOM-9 being a retrofitted Battle Droid. It's kinda like Tantive IV. .  .  .  .  23:38, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Good point. That would fit perfectly with OOM-9 being the basis for the OOM-series B1 battle droids. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:41, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Should I go ahead with it, or should I run it past Chee first? .  .  .  .  23:53, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Ask Chee. =) --Imp 23:54, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Ask him first. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 23:59, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. Now we just have to wait for the reply... .  .  .  .  00:02, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Excellent. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 00:02, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, Chee said "It sounds like it could be true to me". Fantastic. .  .  .  .  10:16, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Recent edit
This addition could be fanon. Note death date and last paragraph. - TopAce 19:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Uh, we've known that's fanon. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 21:55, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I thought as much, just making sure - TopAce 23:03, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Someone had added it on Wikipedia once, and I believe that I was the one who brought it here without knowing that it was complete fanon. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 01:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

OOM-9 series?
The CUSWE says that OOM-9 became the basis for a whole series of battle droid. What source is that from? Is it true? . .  .  .  04:19, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The OOM-series, yes. Supposedly, all commanders are OOM-series B1 battle droids. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 03:06, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I got that part, it's just that the CUSWE said that specifically OOM-9 was the basis for a whole new series. .  .  .  .  03:22, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I suppose OOM-9 could have been the first of the OOM-series... That would explain his overall control of the Trade Federation Droid Army. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 03:27, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, problem is we need a source. And why 9? What the hell did 1 do? ;) .  .  .  .  03:31, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe a lucky number in Neimoidian society. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) [[Image:Implogo.jpg|20px]] 03:32, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Episode 1 novelization
Does he make an appearance in the novelization of TPM? --Imp 00:00, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yep. And he does jack. Funny - I just had to blow a whole lot of dust off my TPM novelisation. I should probably read it again. I think that OOM-9's real "fun-in-the-sun" appearance was in Galactic Battlegrounds. .  .  .  .  00:02, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I suppose Galactic Battlegrounds is where that quote's from as well? --Imp 00:02, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yup. .  .  .  .  23:50, 4 November 2006 (UTC)