Wookieepedia:EduCorps/Meeting 44/Log

Jan 13 23:04:41 	Welcome to EduCorps Meeting 44, guys Jan 13 23:04:42 	yo yo yo Jan 13 23:04:57 	kisses and hugs all around Jan 13 23:05:04 	-zaphod Jan 13 23:05:23 	in a surprising turn of events, let's start with old stuff Jan 13 23:05:25 	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/In_the_Political_Pit Jan 13 23:05:33 	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7272943 Jan 13 23:05:40 	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/In_the_Political_Pit Jan 13 23:05:44 *	CorellianPremier has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) Jan 13 23:06:06 	SE got everything except the BBY date, which is incompatible with the HNN article Jan 13 23:06:06 *	Imperators_II has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) Jan 13 23:06:18 	I say extend Jan 13 23:06:40 	extend Jan 13 23:06:43 	extend Jan 13 23:06:44 	extend Jan 13 23:07:27 	In the Political Pit extended Jan 13 23:07:35 	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Interstellar_Parcel_Service Jan 13 23:07:46 	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7272943 Jan 13 23:07:52 	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Interstellar_Parcel_Service Jan 13 23:08:10 	there's still stuff. Extend. Jan 13 23:08:12 	The fact that its existence was canonized in the CSWE should make the entirety of its IU info to be what's canon from that source, and the Infinities stuff needs to be detailed in a separate section altogether. Jan 13 23:08:17 *	CorellianPremier (636eacb9@wookieepedia/CorellianPremier) has joined Jan 13 23:08:17 *	ChanServ gives channel operator status to CorellianPremier Jan 13 23:08:20 	good to go Jan 13 23:08:27 	How is it not just canonized? Jan 13 23:08:34 <Imperators>	<Imperators> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Interstellar_Parcel_Service Jan 13 23:08:34 <Imperators>	<Imperators> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7272943 Jan 13 23:08:34 <Imperators>	<Imperators> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Interstellar_Parcel_Service Jan 13 23:08:59 	I've never read that comic, but if something is referenced someone else isn't it Legends canon? Jan 13 23:09:27 <Imperators>	but the CSWE entry doesn't reference the specific events of the comic, does it now? Jan 13 23:09:40 <Imperators>	it establishes the corporation was canon, that I'll admit Jan 13 23:09:57 	No, but what is the reason that comic is considered non-canon? Jan 13 23:10:25 	Does it retell events that are canon? Jan 13 23:10:33 <Imperators>	the first Tales comics were considered ambiguously canon Jan 13 23:10:43 <Imperators>	up to Issue Number Whatwasit Jan 13 23:11:56 	I'm guessing it retells the acquisition of the Rancor, but it we need to have some kind of reference saying why it is considered non-canon if we go that route. Jan 13 23:12:17 <Imperators>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Tales Jan 13 23:12:40 	In any event, we should extend this. Jan 13 23:13:22 <CorellianPremier>	Indeed, extend Jan 13 23:13:24 <Imperators>	Yeah, it must be sorted out. I already said extend Jan 13 23:13:47 <Ayrehead2>	extend Jan 13 23:14:07 <Imperators>	Interstellar Parcel Service extended Jan 13 23:14:19 <Imperators>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jumerian Jan 13 23:14:24 <Imperators>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7272945 Jan 13 23:14:31 <Imperators>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Jumerian_(second_review) Jan 13 23:15:21 	I think that was all that needed updating. Jan 13 23:15:21 <Imperators>	I'm not sure we should be outright saying CSWE copied the entry from Wookieepedia Jan 13 23:15:34 <Imperators>	but otherwise it's good Jan 13 23:16:00 <Ayrehead2>	Yeah quoting ourselves is weird Jan 13 23:16:48 <Imperators>	EJ? Jan 13 23:17:02 	Yeah, I'm not too crazy about that. Jan 13 23:17:11 	It doesn't seem particularly necessary. Jan 13 23:17:25 <Ayrehead2>	It seems like speculation that could just be entirely cut Jan 13 23:17:46 <Imperators>	agreed. Extend. We already did excise self-referencing on the Mofference article Jan 13 23:17:53 	"The Jumerian species was one of the members of the New Republic." isn't exactly rocket science. Jan 13 23:18:00 	Let me check the entry quickly. Jan 13 23:18:43 	This species was a member of the New Republic. Jan 13 23:18:50 <Imperators>	it does basically say that :P Jan 13 23:18:54 	It isn't exactly the same. Jan 13 23:19:03 	I'd say we cut that part. Jan 13 23:19:19 <Ayrehead2>	It isn't a huge leap to assume that the writer of the book made the same assumption that our editor did Jan 13 23:20:08 <Imperators>	cast your votes, gentlemen Jan 13 23:20:16 <Ayrehead2>	Extend Jan 13 23:20:21 <Imperators>	decide the fate of the Jumerians Jan 13 23:20:25 <CorellianPremier>	yep, extend Jan 13 23:20:46 <Imperators>	EJ? Jan 13 23:20:47 	extend Jan 13 23:20:52 <Imperators>	thanks, ecks Jan 13 23:21:19 	I mean we could just cut it now. But I'm okay with extending. Jan 13 23:21:40 <Imperators>	Jumerian extended. Jan 13 23:22:00 <Imperators>	last but not least, http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kubindi Jan 13 23:22:06 <Imperators>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7272944 Jan 13 23:22:12 <Imperators>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Kubindi_(second_review) Jan 13 23:22:50 <Imperators>	AV updated the article and got issues in return. Jan 13 23:23:04 <Ayrehead2>	Surely its moving to GAN now? Jan 13 23:23:21 <Imperators>	until it does, it's subject to CAN rules Jan 13 23:23:58 <Imperators>	this is not the only 250+ CA AV has ATM Jan 13 23:24:14 	I guess we need to extend this. Jan 13 23:24:32 <Imperators>	extend Jan 13 23:24:36 <Ayrehead2>	extend Jan 13 23:24:41 <CorellianPremier>	yep, extend Jan 13 23:24:43 	extend Jan 13 23:25:02 <Imperators>	the home of Long Snoot is extended Jan 13 23:25:16 <Imperators>	that's it for old stuff Jan 13 23:25:21 <Imperators>	do we have new contestants? Jan 13 23:25:34 <Ayrehead2>	Two Jan 13 23:25:48 <Imperators>	at the very least Jan 13 23:25:59 <Imperators>	go ahead, Ayre Jan 13 23:26:15 <Ayrehead2>	Copero Jan 13 23:26:16 <Ayrehead2>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Copero?t=20180103224500 Jan 13 23:26:26 <Imperators>	that's in the maintenance bin, we'll get to that Jan 13 23:26:44 <Ayrehead2>	Oh sorry, I thought that was where we were at Jan 13 23:26:55 <Ayrehead2>	Those were the two I was talking about Jan 13 23:27:24 	I only see one in the maintenance bin. Jan 13 23:27:25 <Imperators>	Copero is hardly a "two" but OK Jan 13 23:27:39 <Imperators>	what can you tell us about flatcakes, Ayrehead? Jan 13 23:27:45 	Are you talking about flatcake? Jan 13 23:27:45 <Imperators>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Flatcake Jan 13 23:27:52 <Ayrehead2>	Yeah that was the second Jan 13 23:28:20 <Ayrehead2>	I've updated it, but it's obviously going to need to go to GAN Jan 13 23:28:38 <Ayrehead2>	I'll nominate it later today or tomorrow, just need some time to do the audio and fix some redlinks Jan 13 23:28:48 <Imperators>	pardon me, but I'm seeing a bunch of redlinks, redirects and missing backups Jan 13 23:29:29 <Imperators>	ref note needs linking Jan 13 23:29:38 <Ayrehead2>	Wait what redirects are you seeing? Jan 13 23:29:57 <Imperators>	Trandoshani flatcake Jan 13 23:30:17 <Ayrehead2>	That shouldn't be a redirect, I wrote it earlier Jan 13 23:30:40 	It isn't a redirect for me. Jan 13 23:31:01 <Imperators>	and neither is it for me anymore Jan 13 23:31:07 	why is the heading capitalizing flatcakes? Jan 13 23:31:22 <Ayrehead2>	It's the name of a fathier Jan 13 23:31:23 	oh, nevermind Jan 13 23:31:44 <Imperators>	I mean, the article has some small issues. What do we do with it? Jan 13 23:31:57 	throw it to the sarlacc Jan 13 23:32:20 <Imperators>	does EC spare articles? :P Jan 13 23:32:39 <Imperators>	what if Ayre forgets to nom it? Jan 13 23:32:42 <Ayrehead2>	I'm happy to fix them immediately after the meeting and GAN it tonight if it'll make it easier Jan 13 23:33:01 <Ayrehead2>	I was going to write up the redlinks properly but I'll just make some stubs Jan 13 23:33:07 <Imperators>	I think AC has that provision, or at least there's precedent Jan 13 23:33:22 	Yeah, I'm fine with sparing it for now. Jan 13 23:33:23 <CorellianPremier>	Yes we can spare provs Jan 13 23:33:27 	spare Jan 13 23:33:34 <Imperators>	spare all the flatcakes Jan 13 23:33:51 <Ayrehead2>	Also, I'm unclear on why there isn't a legends Trandoshani flatcakes article Jan 13 23:33:57 <Ayrehead2>	But I guess that's an issue for later Jan 13 23:33:59 <Imperators>	Flatcake is spared Jan 13 23:33:59 	Because Cade redirected it. Jan 13 23:34:12 	Which he probably shouldn't have. Jan 13 23:34:23 	Feel free to create it if you want to Ayrehead. Jan 13 23:34:23 <Ayrehead2>	Yeah they seem to be a distinct variant Jan 13 23:34:26 <Imperators>	alright, some more Jan 13 23:34:27 <Imperators>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Pollus_Maksim&diff=7335177&oldid=7266403 Jan 13 23:34:45 <Imperators>	coming from an anon, I'd like to see a confirmation that there's no new info Jan 13 23:35:00 	Yeah, so would I. Jan 13 23:35:08 <Ayrehead2>	Sadly that's one of the few new canon sources I don't have access to Jan 13 23:35:20 	Probe Jan 13 23:35:24 <Ayrehead2>	Probe Jan 13 23:35:41 <Imperators>	we regret to inform you your adminship nomination has hereby been rescinded :P Jan 13 23:35:46 <Imperators>	probe Jan 13 23:35:48 <Ayrehead2>	Damn it Jan 13 23:35:54 <Ayrehead2>	I knew you just wanted me for my books Jan 13 23:35:55 <CorellianPremier>	sure, probe Jan 13 23:35:59 	probe Jan 13 23:36:06 <Imperators>	Pollus probed, so is Maksim. Jan 13 23:36:35 	can we actually kill that article if there's no confirmation that there's no new info? Jan 13 23:36:49 	innocent until proved guilty etc Jan 13 23:37:00 <Ayrehead2>	I think Lewisr or someone has that book Jan 13 23:37:03 <Ayrehead2>	I'll look into it Jan 13 23:37:06 <Imperators>	discuss that next meeeting? Jan 13 23:37:21 <Imperators>	OK, this one was the other 250+ I mentioned starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Milodon Jan 13 23:37:51 <Imperators>	and that was back in November, btw Jan 13 23:38:19 <Ayrehead2>	Hmm he's made several GANs since then hasn't he Jan 13 23:38:27 <Imperators>	well, it's missing backups, for one Jan 13 23:38:46 <Imperators>	and I can't shake the feeling the intro could be longer Jan 13 23:38:52 	Yeah, same here. Jan 13 23:38:53 <Ayrehead2>	It definitely should Jan 13 23:39:03 <Imperators>	the quote should use proper formatting Jan 13 23:39:18 <Imperators>	I think ecks provided that for Simoomian sensory hound or something Jan 13 23:39:41 <Ayrehead2>	I'd say probe, even if it's just to force him to prioritise nominating it Jan 13 23:39:44 *	Supreme_Emperor has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jan 13 23:39:55 	Probe Jan 13 23:39:59 <Imperators>	probe Jan 13 23:40:04 <CorellianPremier>	sure, probe Jan 13 23:40:11 	probe Jan 13 23:40:18 <Imperators>	Milodon probed Jan 13 23:40:35 <Ayrehead2>	He only has 3 nominations on the GAN at the moment so he can nominate it right now Jan 13 23:41:03 <Imperators>	OK, I have one last article. Since we don't have a CA Redux process I'd appreciate it if you guys could look at this http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Thuna_system&diff=7349206&oldid=7250086 Jan 13 23:42:52 <Ayrehead2>	Shouldn't the colony have an article? Jan 13 23:44:46 <Imperators>	well, that's literally all that's said about it. Do you think it should? Jan 13 23:45:12 <Imperators>	you know me, I'm no fan of "unidentified" articles Jan 13 23:45:37 <Imperators>	I mean, it will also be covered on the Thuna III article eventually Jan 13 23:46:17 	Yeah, looking at the source, I don't really think it should have an article from what is there. Jan 13 23:47:12 <Ayrehead2>	I usually lean toward inclusion for this stuff, but if no one else thinks it's necessary then I'm happy to leave it Jan 13 23:47:32 <Imperators>	anything else, maybe? Jan 13 23:47:52 	I don't see anything. Jan 13 23:48:00 <Ayrehead2>	Yeah everything else seems fine to me Jan 13 23:48:42 <Imperators>	well then, unless CP and ecks start screaming bloody murder... Jan 13 23:48:51 	greetings Jan 13 23:49:21 <CorellianPremier>	all good Jan 13 23:49:30 <Imperators>	thanks for looking at it, then. Jan 13 23:49:47 <Imperators>	and, if no one has anything else new... Jan 13 23:49:51 <Imperators>	here we come, Copero Jan 13 23:50:02 <Imperators>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Copero?t=20180103224500 Jan 13 23:50:22 <Imperators>	looks like Fred is dead or otherwise incapacitated Jan 13 23:50:33 <Imperators>	temporarily dead Jan 13 23:50:47 <CorellianPremier>	for tax purposes Jan 13 23:50:58 	Probe. I don't think this is going to be easy to fix, and it certainly won't be a CA after it is updated. Jan 13 23:51:09 <Imperators>	the update is older than a month, right? Jan 13 23:51:11 <Ayrehead2>	Agreed, Probe Jan 13 23:51:25 <CorellianPremier>	definitely probe Jan 13 23:51:27 <Imperators>	20171128. Yeah. Jan 13 23:51:29 <Imperators>	probe Jan 13 23:51:32 	The article is definitely over a month. Jan 13 23:51:38 	Short story Jan 13 23:51:43 	p Jan 13 23:51:45 <Imperators>	Long story short Jan 13 23:51:54 <Imperators>	Copero probed Jan 13 23:52:03 <Imperators>	Discussions, Discussions Jan 13 23:52:28 <Imperators>	do we need a Redux process? Jan 13 23:52:41 	Yeah, I think we do. Jan 13 23:52:46 <Imperators>	or are we mighty enough as is? Jan 13 23:53:14 <Ayrehead2>	You can never be too mighty Jan 13 23:53:18 	I'm not sure if I am going have time to discuss it fully before I have to leave, but we do need one. Jan 13 23:53:45 <Imperators>	I don't know if CP knows about the AC Redux process http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:AC/Redux_page Jan 13 23:53:50 	Why don't we draft up a proposal in between this meeting and the next? Jan 13 23:54:05 <CorellianPremier>	I'm familiar with the basics Jan 13 23:54:09 <Imperators>	cool Jan 13 23:54:14 <Imperators>	sounds like a good idea to me Jan 13 23:54:37 <Ayrehead2>	Yeah it makes sense Jan 13 23:55:23 <Imperators>	alright, anything else? Jan 13 23:55:28 <CorellianPremier>	indeed Jan 13 23:55:33 <Imperators>	if not... Jan 13 23:55:37 	I don't have anything else. Jan 13 23:55:51 <Imperators>	paperwork - Imperators II, scheduling - Exiledjedi Jan 13 23:56:06 	Yay!