User talk:Toprawa and Ralltiir

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Re: 126
Is it OK now? Wasn't sure if beige was the right word to describe his plating color, so that might need to be changed. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 06:42, September 4, 2018 (UTC)

Contacted by banned user
On my Wikipedia talk page, I was contacted by LOST-Malachi. The message itself concerned information pertaining to creating more SWTOR-related articles. What is the best course of action to take? --Nostalgia of Iran (talk) 15:14, September 4, 2018 (UTC)


 * I was contacted at

Star Wars: Force Collection
Hi. May I ask you a question regarding Star Wars: Force Collection? When treating it as a canon source, what is the actual date of publication that we are assuming for the game? This is relevant for Battle of Khorm as both Ultimate Star Wars and Force Collection provide the official name for the battle. Depending on what date we are assigning to Force Collection, it might lay claim to the 1stID tag. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 07:28, September 5, 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, I do know that Wolffe's card was released as early as September, 2015. This was when notified me of its existence, though. When it was actually released, I have no idea. I'm just going to go with Ultimate Star Wars for the 1stID tag and place the card according to the game's shutdown date, then.   QuiGonJinn  Senate seal.svg(Talk) 06:19, September 6, 2018 (UTC)

95th Inquisitorius Sabacc Tournament
The 95th Inquisitorius Sabacc Tournament will be held on September 29th at 8 PM ET.-- Exiled Jedi  ( talk ) 16:39, September 9, 2018 (UTC)

AgriCorps Meeting 108
AgriCorps Meeting 108 will be held at 4pm ET on 22nd September, 2018. If you can't attend then please leave notes, otherwise don't forget to bring cake! Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:46, September 9, 2018 (UTC)

Image-uploading rules
Do image-uploading rules require all templates to be filled in less than 3 minutes? Sightsaber (talk) 15:49, September 12, 2018 (UTC)

Specimen Gamma 19
As an individual that plays Star Wars: The Old Republic, I can confirm that Specimen Gamma 19 is in the game. --Nostalgia of Iran (talk) 18:25, September 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * That's fine. Please take a moment to recreate the article if you wouldn't mind. Thank you. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:35, September 12, 2018 (UTC)

Heart of the Empire
I noticed you revised the Heart of the Empire campaign as it is apparently canon, and I thought I'd revise everything from that campaign to reflect this, but before I do I thought I'd check-everything that "appears" in that campaign would now be considered canon, correct?  Fan26  ( Talk ) 21:46, September 18, 2018 (UTC)
 * I mean, I'm guessing so? I really have no idea what that campaign involves. I made that change to the article based A) on the fact that the game came out in late 2017, and we pretty much now know that everything from FFG published in 2017 or later is Canon; and b) as stated in the edit summary, it involves Ahsoka during the time of the Rebellion, so it must be Canon. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:57, September 18, 2018 (UTC)
 * In that case I'll go ahead and treat it as such. Thanks for answering.  Fan26  ( Talk ) 21:59, September 18, 2018 (UTC)
 * No problem. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:07, September 18, 2018 (UTC)
 * This also presents an opportunity to ask something I've needed to for a while-since roleplaying games are treated as source material, not media with a canonical plot, and as such, are listed under the "sources" section as opposed to the "Appearances", the template should be used as opposed to the  template, right? I've always gone with first mentioned, but I have seen it both ways, and just thought I should check.  Fan26  ( Talk ) 22:14, September 18, 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, it's not entirely correct to say that roleplaying games are treated as source material. If the RPG material is a campaign, we treat those as Appearances. For example, these are all RPG campaigns, which we list in the Appearances. Conversely, we treat RPG sourcebooks as Sources list items. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:20, September 18, 2018 (UTC)
 * Okay then, thanks for clearing that up. All of the material I've come across from Heart of the Empire has it listed as the first appearance but under the "Sources" section. I will revise that. Thanks!  Fan26  ( Talk ) 22:33, September 18, 2018 (UTC)

Sacking of Coruscant
Hi. I see that you reverted my edit on this article. I believe it has something to do with its semi-protected status? However, this edit was long overdue. The image I aimed to replaced was an early concept art for TOR, while the image (from a cinematic) I used show the starships has they are depicted in the game. If you need any proof of this, here is a quote from the BTS part of Harrower-class dreadnought: Timeline 1: Treaty of Coruscant, the first in a series of videos detailing the game's backstory, used concept art of the Pellaeon-class Star Destroyer from the Legacy era in place of the Harrower-class, as the design for the Harrower-class had not yet been finalized by the video's release in March 2009. I think we can agree that using an outdated image on a Featured Article while better material exist isn't a good thing. -- NanoLuuke Cloning facility 19:05, September 21, 2018 (UTC)
 * You're pretty much going to get knee-jerk reverted anytime you make a content change to a status article without leaving an explanation either in the edit summary or on the article's talk page. This is because the article has been peer-reviewed and its contents approved by the community, so any subsequent changes become unverified and, worse, potentially subversive. Since you've left a reasoned explanation for your change here, you're welcome to replace your image. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:26, September 21, 2018 (UTC)
 * Ok, makes perfect sense. I will keep this in mind for later edits. Thanks! -- NanoLuuke Cloning facility 19:35, September 21, 2018 (UTC)

Help with Tabs
Hello! My name is Schroeswald and I am one of the admins on the https://wicked.wikia.com/wiki/Wicked_Wiki. We have decided to split up our pages into book and musical pages and would like to use a similar format as your canon/legends tabs. We would like to know how the coding is set up, whatever we name our templates we will make sure to credit this wiki for the coding. --Schroeswald (talk) 23:12, September 29, 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I'm not really the one to talk to about that, as the coding is fairly complex and above my pay grade, so to speak. You would do better to ask this question in our Senate Hall. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:48, September 29, 2018 (UTC)

Wayback Machine
Hi Toprawa, you know that the WM had trouble archiving StarWars.com pages for some time, but it appears WM now works fine when you archive new pages. Is it possible that you can check it in your computer too? I don't want to change anything until I'm 100% sure that it works for everyone.  Anıl Şerifoğlu  (talk) 23:11, October 2, 2018 (UTC)
 * I just successfully saved this article, this article, and two other Databank pages in Internet Archive, so I guess you're good to go. I would probably recommend not trying to go back and change the mid-2017 to mid-2018 SW.com archive links that weren't working before, since there might be some kind of code in those pages that was creating the problem and might have been removed from these newer articles. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:57, October 4, 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, you are right. Thanks for responding! TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg  Anıl Şerifoğlu  (talk) 19:06, October 4, 2018 (UTC)
 * Glad to help. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:07, October 4, 2018 (UTC)

RE: Wookieepedia wordmark
Roughly three years ago, you messaged me asking if I could change the Wookieepedia logo on the Star Wars Rebels Wiki. I'm sorry for never getting back to you; I didn't see your message until today. For what it's worth, I've update the image on the Rebels Wiki. -- Red Leader 09:35, October 3, 2018 (UTC)
 * Better late than never. Thank you. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:45, October 4, 2018 (UTC)

Meeting 109
You are hereby requested to report for duty on the front lines against the evil, smelly Duloks. Roll call is at 16:00 hours (4p ET) on October 22, 2018. See you there, and yub nub. MasterFred (Whatever) 04:36, October 6, 2018 (UTC)

Spoiler policy question
Hey Tope, I wanted to ask you a question regarding the spoiler policy. The policy mentions that "information may be added upon a television episode's initial Eastern Time Zone airtime", but my question is how does this apply to episodes released in Disney's streaming service before they air on TV. For example the first Resistance episode was live to stream hours before it aired on TV and there's also couple of episodes that will be out on TV in a couple of weeks that are available to stream right now. I want to be sure before I add appearances and updating info belonging to those episodes. Thanks--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 09:46, October 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * The short answer is that it doesn't apply to the streaming service, since the current policy, as worded, doesn't consider the streaming service a release. The operative wording of that policy clause is "U.S. wide-release date," which would be the initial Eastern Time Zone airtime, when the vast majority of viewers are first seeing an episode. FWIW to say, I believe this is the correct and fair way of handling this, since only a relatively small percentage of fans will be viewing these episodes ahead of time in the streaming service. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:30, October 8, 2018 (UTC)

Look and Find
Hi, if you don't mind my asking, do Look and Find books belong under Appearances or Sources? Thank you ! :) Toqgers (talk) 06:43, October 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * We've taken to treating them as Sources list items. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:14, October 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * Sweet thanks for answering Toqgers (talk) 16:27, October 9, 2018 (UTC)

What Image Uploading error did I make?
What was wrong with the photo you deleted? I uploaded it the same way I have all the other photos I have added to the wiki.--Professor Ambrius (talk) 22:28, October 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * When you open Special:Upload, see that huge blue notice at the very beginning of the page titled "All uploads must comply with Wookieepedia's image use policy," complete with big, red lettering that says Please also make sure that your file upload follows our user image policy. Please remember to follow the above instructions or else your file will be deleted.? That. That's what you didn't do. If you've been uploading all of your images this way, this warning was a long time coming. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:33, October 14, 2018 (UTC)


 * I believed I followed these rules. Are you aware of a specific step I missed?--Professor Ambrius (talk) 22:54, October 14, 2018 (UTC)

I used a visual editor, maybe this is a problem. I'm sory but I try a new way to add a interlang.

Re: Interlang
I used a visual editor, maybe this is a problem. I'm sory but I will try a new way to add a interlang. --Kwazi93 (talk) 15:25, October 15, 2018 (UTC)

Outrider/Canon
The Outrider appears in Disney Infinity 3.0 does that warrant a canon page? - Red Duel 22:26, October 15, 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't think so. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:28, October 15, 2018 (UTC)
 * The reason I asked was because Leebo was given a page and he was only mentioned in it. - Red Duel 23:26, October 15, 2018 (UTC)
 * I think we've been extremely inconsistent with how we've handled things from that game, but I'm not sure there's any advantage to creating a "non-canon Canon" article for a subject that hasn't appeared in any other Canon source material. Nor do I think there's any indication that that game is supposed to have any bearing on official Canon. It's more of a for-fun type thing. There are some things that are just "no canon," and I think this is one of them. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:06, October 16, 2018 (UTC)

Re: GAN
Yeah, you are absolutely right. :)  Anıl Şerifoğlu  (talk) 00:47, October 17, 2018 (UTC)

Goaliepowers
Hey Toprawa. Just so you know I would totally be putting this question on a forum or something but the Knowledge Bank and the Senate Hall are not really for this. If there is a better forum let me know. So I own a copy of Ultimate Star Wars, but it does not include anything past Return of The Jedi, or any of the anthologies, or anything past season 1 or Star Wars Rebels. So is there a newer reference book? I know I can find everything on this site, but honestly I don't want to be on the internet 24/7. If you know of a newer book please let me know, and if not could you direct me either to a forum or to a Star Wars book guru. Thanks for your help. Goaliepowers (talk) 22:22, October 17, 2018 (UTC) Well thanks for your help. I don't see anything, so I guess it's not been released. I hope they come out with an updated and expanded Ultimate Star Wars. Goaliepowers (talk) 22:33, October 17, 2018 (UTC)
 * Best I can do is direct you here: Category:Canon reference books. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:23, October 17, 2018 (UTC)

Re:GAN
I must've misread that or something. My apologies. Thanks for letting me know.  Fan26  ( Talk ) 23:13, October 18, 2018 (UTC)

INQ 97
Hey. Let's increment the Inq meeting number by one on November 10 at 2 PM ET.  Imperators II (Talk) 22:34, October 23, 2018 (UTC)

Re: GAN voting
Yeah, I am aware of the voting rule. I just thought that I should add my vote anyway since I had an objection that was later satisfied by the nominator. I'll be sure to concentrate on noms that have 0 or 1 user votes. Thanks!  Anıl Şerifoğlu  (talk) 19:26, October 24, 2018 (UTC)

Timothy Zahn Interview
Hi Toprawa and Ralltiir,

I would like to inform you that given that I want to collaborate more on Wookieepedia, I have been considering making an interview with some Star Wars VIP, so I choose Timothy Zahn, given that I can communicate with him via his Facebook account. As such, I wanted to ask you two things:

First of all, is if you can verify if my page is good (here it is!) and convince other users to submit their questions to its discussion section. And the second was if you could be involved in the interview along some other admin so you chan check its verifiability once I make the interview.

Thanks beforehand!!!

Risold TOR
I noticed that most of User:Risold's contributions and uploads were recently removed. While I understand they were blocked for being a sockpuppet, I was under the impression (per discussion with the blocking admin Xd1358) that their actual contributions would not be removed as they were constructive. Could I ask what changed?  Fan26  ( Talk ) 01:12, October 30, 2018 (UTC)
 * If you would like to discuss this issue, I invite you to join our IRC channel. Thanks. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:34, October 30, 2018 (UTC)
 * I've looked into doing that before. I guess I'll finally get around to doing that now. Just to check-when I register a nickname with freenode, no one on the #wookieepedia channel will see my email or IP, correct?  Fan26  ( Talk ) 17:58, October 30, 2018 (UTC)
 * If you're registered with Freenode, they should not see your IP, and your email is never visible. We also have IRC/Cloaks set up so that you can obtain a specialized Wookieepdia cloak, which also masks your IP. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:19, October 30, 2018 (UTC)
 * Just to make sure I'm reading the guide correctly-I do that after joining under a nickname?  Fan26  ( Talk ) 01:16, October 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * Alright, I've finally joined. I set up, and was on the #wookieepedia channel for a sec, but I think it showed my IP? i joined and it displayed "Fan26@IP....." or something of the sort for a sec. Was that something only I would see?  Fan26  ( Talk ) 14:39, October 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * Also, pressing the 'whois' function displayed my email. I thought it shouldn't be able to do that? (also sorry if it seems like I keep spamming concerns or something btw. Just trying to figure this out.)  Fan26  ( Talk ) 16:47, October 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * I can answer these questions better if you come on IRC so I can see your credentials firsthand. Everyone in the channel right now is a veteran, verified, and trusted Wookieepedian, so your privacy is safe. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:32, October 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry it took a day to get back to this. Heading to IRC now.  Fan26  ( Talk ) 22:24, November 1, 2018 (UTC)
 * This is interesting; I was contacted by another sockpuppet offwiki. I'm going ahead and blocking them there, but I thought I'd keep you apprised.  Fan26  ( Talk ) 19:38, October 30, 2018 (UTC)
 * That's also Mauser. You're not the first person he's tried to recruit into subverting our rules and editing for him. You've done the right thing by bringing this to our attention and not taking his bait, so good job. Thank you. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:19, October 30, 2018 (UTC)
 * I've seen that user's presence in a lot of SWTOR-article history (Across many usernames). I'm guessing the deletion of the articles is an attempt to discourage their continued ban evasion, but I'll still try to finally join IRC now that I'm getting my questions on it answered. Thanks.  Fan26  ( Talk ) 01:16, October 31, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Social media
Duly noted for future reference. I had no idea this page existed, I assumed the category was enough. -- Lelal Mekha  (Audience Room) 19:57, October 31, 2018 (UTC)

Star Wars Resistance
Pardon me, im from B-Master Animation and i would like some people to full in the timeline with events from Star Wars Resistance. Seeing how four episodes of the show is out and i would like some editors to put in the things that are canon to the timeline. I already put in some of it, but not enough since its hard to know if its part of it or not. That and the date is hard to understand it. CB2014 23:27, November 1, 2018 (UTC)
 * Not to be brusque, but was there a question in there? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:34, November 1, 2018 (UTC)
 * maybe. But i was concerning about the show being apart of the Star Wars canon timeline. CB2014 00:41, November 2, 2018 (UTC)

Mandalorian captain
Hey Tope, I was wondering if you could move Unidentified Mandalorian police captain (Mandalore) to Unidentified Mandalorian police captain/Legends? I'll take care of the redirects, thank you.-- Vitus Infinitus  Talk 18:32, November 3, 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, considering there are multiple "Unidentified Mandalorian police captain" articles, I would recommend making Unidentified Mandalorian police captain a disambig page and moving this Legends article to Unidentified Mandalorian police captain (Mandalore)/Legends. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:35, November 3, 2018 (UTC)
 * Okay, that works. Is it alright if I move Unidentified Mandalorian police captain (Sundari docks) to Unidentified Mandalorian police captain (Sundari) and move Unidentified Mandalorian police captain (Mandalore) to Unidentified Mandalorian police captain (Sundari docks) since I think that the (Mandalore) part of the name is a bit too vague?-- Vitus Infinitus  Talk 18:40, November 3, 2018 (UTC)
 * Whatever parenthetical terms you want to use is up to you, though I might recommend considering something a little more varied between these two, since "Sundari" and "Sundari docks" are so similar and don't do much to distinguish one from the other. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:47, November 3, 2018 (UTC)
 * Okay sounds good, thanks-- Vitus Infinitus  Talk 18:51, November 3, 2018 (UTC)
 * Move the articles you need to, then tell me exactly what you want me to move where. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:53, November 3, 2018 (UTC)
 * Great thanks, I'll let you know!-- Vitus Infinitus  Talk 18:54, November 3, 2018 (UTC)
 * Alright, I moved the articles and added the deletion template on the unnecessary redirects. I need to move Unidentified Mandalorian police captain (Mandalore) to Unidentified Mandalorian police captain (docks)/Legends, thanks.-- Vitus Infinitus  Talk 19:08, November 3, 2018 (UTC)
 * Done. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:11, November 3, 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help!-- Vitus Infinitus  Talk 20:56, November 3, 2018 (UTC)
 * No problem. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:02, November 3, 2018 (UTC)

Outrider
Hey Tope, YT-1300 Corellian Freighter Owner's Workshop Manual officially canonizes the Outrider, but you have it locked. Was wondering if you could lift that. Thanks!-- Vitus Infinitus  Talk 01:47, November 8, 2018 (UTC)

Conspiracy
I know there's not a lot categories but not many for conspiracies. It does take place during the three ongoing comic series that takes place during the war.--Rgilbert27 (talk) 03:37, November 8, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Zack Giallongo
Hi. Regarding the lost Facebook citations by Zack Giallongo, I'll be asking him questions on Twitter so we can replace everything that's gone (and this time screenshots will be added). -- Lelal Mekha  (Audience Room) 19:03, November 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * Sounds great, thanks. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:04, November 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * Might want to ask him about the Endor timeline too. You'll see there's a Facebook post on there as well where he talks about that (it's detailed in the Continuity section). Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:08, November 9, 2018 (UTC)

Aliases
Hi! How should aliases of a person or ship be listed in the appearances section of their source? Having trouble finding if there's a prescribed way to that. Would something like Ezra Bridger be appropriate? Toqgers (talk) 21:47, November 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * I suppose it depends on the circumstances of the story. In the case of Ezra Bridger, I'm not sure it's really necessary. I would consider it more necessary if, for example, we were introduced to a character by a name that turned out to be an alias, then we learned their real name later on. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:49, November 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. The ones I actually have in mind are Roaky Laamu and Sunfighter Franchise for Han and the Falcon which are used in canon in the new Smuggler's Guide (as seen in the preview pics on Amazon). They don't strike me as particularly important (I mean, Han's a smuggler, aliases are part of the game!) except in that they exist both in canon and legends now. What do you think is the right way to approach these? Toqgers (talk) 22:00, November 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't think Canon/Legends has any bearing here necessarily. The existence of alias articles is also a matter of some historical public debate on Wookieepedia; i.e., does Roaky Laamu really need to be its own article? Why not just redirect it to the Han Solo article? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:13, November 12, 2018 (UTC)