Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations

 The featured articles of the wiki are articles that represent the best Wookieepedia has to offer. This is not a way to showcase the articles of your favorite characters, spaceships, or the like.


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An article must&hellip;


 * 1) &hellip;be well-written and detailed.
 * 2) &hellip;be unbiased, non-point of view.
 * 3) &hellip;be sourced with all available sources and appearances.
 * 4) &hellip;follow the Manual of Style, Layout Guide, and all other policies on Wookieepedia.
 * 5) &hellip;not be the object of any ongoing edit wars.
 * 6) &hellip;not be tagged with any sort of improvement tags (i.e. more sources, expand, etc).
 * 7) &hellip;have a proper lead that gives a good summary of the topic and can be used for the front page featured box.
 * 8) &hellip;have no more than 3 redlinks.
 * 9) &hellip;have significant information from all sources and appearances, especially a biography for character articles.
 * 10) &hellip;not have been previously featured on the Main Page. Otherwise, it can only be restored to featured status.
 * 11) &hellip;be completely referenced for all available material and sources. See Sourcing for more information.
 * 12) &hellip;have all quotes and images sourced.
 * 13) &hellip;provide at least one quote on the article. A leading quote at the beginning of the article will be required only if there is quotable dialogue by or about the subject. Although quotes may be placed in the body of the article, a maximum of one quote is allowed at the beginning of each section.
 * 14) &hellip;include a "personality and traits" section on all character articles.
 * 15) &hellip;include a "powers and abilities" section on all relevant character articles, especially for Force-sensitive characters where said powers and/or abilities are stipulated.
 * 16) &hellip;include a reasonable number of images of good quality if said images are available.
 * 17) &hellip;pass review by the Inquisitorius review panel.
 * 18) &hellip;counting the introduction and "Behind the scenes" material, be at least 1000 words long (not including captions, quotes, or headers, etc).

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How to nominate:


 * 1) First, nominate an article you find is worthy of featured status, putting it at the bottom of the list below; see criteria above. Note that a previously featured article cannot be featured on the Main Page again; however, it can be restored to featured status.
 * 2) Others will object to the nomination if they disagree that the article is good enough; they will then supply reasons for doing so, and ways to improve the article (errors, style, organization, images, notability, sources).
 * 3) Supporters adjust the article until the objectors (with reasonable objections) are satisfied.
 * 4) The article is placed on the featured article list and added to the front page queue.
 * 5) Also, if, at least a week after the article's nomination, that article has 5 Inquisitor supports and no objections (or the objections have been stricken or overridden), it will be added to the queue, and will be officially known as a "featured article".

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 * 1) Before doing anything, be sure to read the article completely, keeping a sharp eye out for mistakes.
 * 2) Afterwards, compare the article to the criteria listed above, and then either support or object the article's nomination.
 * 3) If you object, please supply concrete reasons for doing so, and how it can be improved. Please cite which rule your objection falls under! Failure to do so will result in your objection being considered invalid.
 * 4) As stated above, any objections will be looked upon by the nominator, supporters, and anyone willing to improve the article, and action will be taken to please the objectors.
 * 5) Once all objectors' complaints have been solved (or the article has five supporting Inquisitor votes and no objections after at least a week), the article will be added to the queue and be officially known as a "featured article".

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(3 Inqs/6 Users/9 total)
Support
 * 1) --Eyrezer 00:01, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Cull Tremayne 00:49, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) You know Platt is where it's at! -- Ozzel 00:51, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Worthy long before this nomination. jSarek 00:53, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) That's how I like my FA's --Skippy Farlstendoiro 16:48, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) --Master Starkeiller 14:07, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, the FAN which I've been waiting months for. Finally got through the bugger, well done. Greyman ( Paratus ) 16:50, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Sheesh. Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 02:52, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) -- Dark Lord Xander  ( Embrace The Dark Side! )[[Image:MandalorianSymbol.jpg|20px]] 03:41, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Comments
 * It's very...well...BTS'y in the bio. "Probably" this and "It is noted" that...I don't know exactly how you can work around it, but I don't think it's particularly desirable. Thefourdotelipsis 01:52, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I tackled some of the worst of the prose. I leave it to Ey to decide whether to move the rest of the speculation to the Bts or Notes, or to leave it in a less florid state in the main text. jSarek 00:22, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * From the lair of Hobbes15
 * Three redlinks? They must go! :P (Not a full objection, but... a little close to the limit, I guess)
 * Could you ref the eye color and affiliations section of the infobox, please? The eye color isn't that obvious in her pictures.
 * "...Okeefe got the alcohol off him at the established cost with small favor thrown in"? Reword the "favor" part so it makes more sense.
 * Should be sorted. --Eyrezer 10:05, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * A lot of un-refed content in Repaying the Debt. Is it all in Smuggler's Log 3?
 * As for the BTS'yness of the bio, couldn't we just say that Okeefe somehow managed to recover Bee-Zerobee and be done with it. The info on how it is surprising Okeefe could have recovered Bee-Zerobee can go in the BTS.
 * Just to clarify this, you are aware that it does not appear in the main text, but rather as a footnote? --Eyrezer 04:52, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... I think it was in the main text when I read it. Anyway, someone must have fixed it. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 22:28, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * What likely happened is that you opened the page for editing and read that, which shows the ftnotes in with the rest of the text but with s etc around it, rather than reading the actual text as it would have appeared on the site. --Eyrezer 22:55, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * That must be it; I was rewording most of the sections in some way. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:25, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * "This was not to say Okeefe was unaffected by the Rebellion enveloping the galaxy"? Obviously not, she's been fighting Imperials and turned one over to the Rebels. You might want to reword this, since the earlier paragraph is definitely not implying Okeefe was unaffected by the Rebellion.
 * Addressed. --Eyrezer 05:38, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * "...The presence of a Twi'lek made this impossible"? Why?
 * He wasn't Human so obviously not an Imperial. DO you think this needs to be spelt out?
 * Sorry; I thought you meant that the Imperials had a Twi'lek among them, and I wondered why a Twi'lek could not be bluffed just as easily as a human. Forgot that Thrawn was a special case. Never mind. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 22:28, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Could the stuff about Moorja's location be moved to the BTS?
 * Removed the ftnote as it is noted on Moorja's page already. --Eyrezer 05:08, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... maybe something was wrong with my computer, and the footnotes were inserted in the main text. Anyway, fixed, although I don't mind it as a footnote; I just thought it was in the main text. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 22:28, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Probably the same thing with footnotes as before. If you want it back, that's fine, I saw it in the main text, so I figured it might be BTS info. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:25, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Should "hid" be hit? I wasn't sure, so I thought I'd bring it up here (Section 1.10.1)
 * Yeah it should have been. Fixed
 * Ref the last paragraph of Vengeance Strike.
 * Done
 * A more conclusive ending would be nice, but if there is no more information, I'm fine with it as it is currently.
 * Is this like Stele, where the ending's kind of... sudden? Because if so, it's fine. It just seems a little anti-climactic, I guess. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:25, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It is like Steele in that she is just never mentioned again. I tried to add a little resolution anyway based on an adventure seed in Vengeance Strike. --Eyrezer 10:05, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Much better. I like it. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 21:56, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Is Gathering Shadows a WEG product? If not, reword the BTS a bit so this is mentioned.
 * Clarified. --Eyrezer 08:42, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * That's all. I fixed all the minor stuff I found, and I'm impressed with the length of this article. Good work. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 19:12, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey ho, let's go:
 * A few paragraphs need refs at the end if possible. Specifically: Childhood paragraph 2, Klatooinian Trade Guild paragraph 1, Repaying the debt paragraphs 2, 3 and 4, Imperial Double Cross paragraphs 3 and 4.
 * Should Repair Bay Services have a link since it's the name of something? Green Tentacle (Talk) 20:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * They are now reffed except for the Repaying the Debt section which I will get too later. Added that link, as well as removing the one you put to Chalum's. It is not necessarily that cantina. --Eyrezer 10:05, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Currently the 48th longest article on Wookieepedia. Just to give you an idea of the length. :) --Eyrezer 00:18, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Did you forget that you're an Inq? :-P Cull Tremayne 00:49, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * If I'm not sure about an article, I vote as a regular user. :) Then if it is struggling, I can change my vote later lol --Eyrezer 03:50, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

(5 Inqs/4 Users/9 total)
Support
 * 1) Sikon 17:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) --Eyrezer 11:56, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Sikon, this is bloody good. I demand more FAs out of you, sonny! Thefourdotelipsis 02:38, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Per 4dot. Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 02:52, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Lord Hydronium 12:24, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 6)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:24, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Slash Z 19:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC) (single issue voter, struck per policy.  Greyman ( Paratus ))
 * 1) Cull Tremayne 01:39, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) -- Dark Lord Xander  ( Embrace The Dark Side! )[[Image:MandalorianSymbol.jpg|20px]] 03:45, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) StarWarsDude 21:56, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Comments
 * 1) A few things:
 * 2) * The infobox image (Image:Kotor.jpg) has a Dark Horse watermark is generally low quality. Replace this.
 * 3) ** Replaced. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) * The introduction needs a good rewrite. Things such as Dark Horse's other current Star Wars comics and the chronology of the series are best discussed in other sections.
 * 5) ** Addressed the issues you mentioned - tell me if something is still wrong. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) * There's a few punctuation errors throughout the article: several instances of punctuation being placed outside quotation marks, and em dashes are erroneously surrounded by spaces.
 * 7) ** Corrected em dashes. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) * The "2007: Days/Knights" subsection of "Production" has several two-sentence paragraphs. Rewrite if possible. Why is the section given the affix of "Days/Knights," when the 2006 section has no affix at all?
 * 9) ** Explained on IRC, also see below. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) * The section "Core characters" should either cover only the core characters, or be renamed to "Major characters" or something similar.
 * 11) ** Renamed to just "Characters". - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * The thin paragraph issue applies to most of the "Plot" section as well, particularly the subsections "Commencement" and "Days of Fear, Nights of Anger."
 * 13) ** Expanded small paragraphs. - Sikon 14:56, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) * There's no reception section, and no mention of sales figures.
 * --Imperialles 17:50, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) ** Added. - Sikon 14:56, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) The core characters section needs to be wookified. At the very least, it needs a grammar cleanup.  Chack Jadson  Talk  20:09, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Image:Kotorteam.jpg needs to be properly sourced with the Information template. --Eyrezer 23:07, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) * Done. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) From the Grey of Man:
 * 3) * Image:Kotor.jpg is currently tagged with . Please rectify if this is going to be used.
 * 4) ** Deleted. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) * The infobox picture isn't really the best one that is out there, though I can understand why it was chosen. Maybe the following one, which I've linked to, would be better enjoyed by the community? Especially since it has full color. Image:Kotorhandbookcoverandtitle.jpg, just a suggestion.
 * 6) ** Done. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) * None of the character information in the "Core character" section has any reference tags. Please source info from the necessary appearances/sources.
 * 8) * What's the source for "&hellip;abbreviated as KotOR&hellip;"? I know it is often referred to as that around here, but is there a source for it being used in the comics/interviews/media etc.?
 * 9) ** Sourced. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) * The caption ("Dark Horse promotional image and preliminary issue 0 cover") is not needed below the picture in the infobox.
 * 11) ** Removed. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * Each entry in the Core Characters section needs to be expanded, IMO; and as already pointed out, needs to be cleaned up.
 * 13) ** See below about expansion. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) * It may have been intentional, but Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 0: Crossroads is not listed, along with the other comics, in the "Media" section. All of the other comics which were collected into the TPB Commencement are listed, and Crossroads was collected in it as well&mdash;please include.
 * 15) ** It's there, see below. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) * Please completely source the "Continuity" section&mdash;only a few paragraphs and/or pieces of information are currently sourced. Even though some of the information may be obvious, it should still be sourced to comply with FAN standards.
 * 17) ** Sourced. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) *** Better, but the first two paragraphs still need ref tags. The first paragraph needs at least one, if not more, ref tags of where the KotOR comics reference the TOTJ comics and the KOTOR games. The second paragraph simply needs a ref tag from either the Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic video game or even the Strategy Guide since it details some of the information listed. Using both wouldn't be opposed to either. Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 19) ****Reworded the first paragraph and restructured the section, so that the paragraph wouldn't require a reference (hopefully). As for the second, it openly says "in the game" and provides a link to said game, so I don't think it needs a reference - the game is established as the source for this information in the text itself, and I'm not a fan of having footnotes for the sake of them. - Sikon 12:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) *****Neither am I a fan of having footnotes for the sake of having them, if it can be avoided&mdash;and your re-wording of that specific part clears up my objection, thanks. Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:24, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 21) * Formatting for the "Notes and references" section should be a scroll box at the very least.
 * 22) ** Done. - Sikon 08:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 23) * Once the writing objections listed by Imp, Chack, and myself have been looked after, I'll go through the actual writing of the article. I don't see any point in doing it before hand.
 * 24) * In the "Continuity" section, the first sentence says "Set in the years 3,964 BBY and 3,963 BBY, at a midpoint between Tales of the Jedi and the video games&hellip;". It needs to be made clear that that the video games are Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic and Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords, as right now a wayward reader could mistake it for all the video games.  Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 25) ** Addressed. - Sikon 12:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 26) * I feel that introduction should make some mention about the fan reception of the series as well as any other relevant Real World impacts it has had&mdash;especially since it's an article about the overall series. Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 27) ** There haven't been any significant real-world impacts, to my knowledge, besides Vector &mdash; which I have now mentioned in the intro. - Sikon 12:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 28) **An interesting FAN which I could see becoming the template for future projects like it. Greyman ( Paratus ) 00:57, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 29) From the beaker of Lord Hydronium:
 * 30) * Expand on a few things in "Plot Summary", particularly the second paragraph of "Commencement". First, some explanation of the knighting ceremony, and second, a few more details on the vision, like the figure you mention later.
 * 31) ** Expanded the Commencement section to clarify this. - Sikon 12:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 32) * Nothing about Vector.
 * 33) ** Added a section about Vector and mentioned it in the intro. - Sikon 12:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 34) *No other complaints here. - Lord Hydronium 09:16, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 35) From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * 36) * Source handbook release.
 * 37) ** Done. - Sikon 12:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 38) *Copyedit plot summary
 * 39) *This is not the easiest of objections to resolve, but I'd like the prose in the plot summaries to be a little better. Some of the word choices don't seem to quite line up- I think a "misled" in there is kind of awkward. Another example is the way the last sentence of Flashpoint reads- it doesn't seem to flow. Also, a bit more detail in some parts, e.g. "After Zayne learned this." What did he learn- that the banker was his father? That the banker had been captured? Both?
 * 40) * Maybe it's because it has been freshly released/not fully released, but the Daze of Hate section is abominably small and hard to read/follow.
 * 41) ** Expanded with #20 events and restructured. - Sikon 12:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 42) *This is definitely not a hard and fast rule, but what about having an authors/pencillers/creators section on the page? Ozzel's SOTE soundtrack FA has a paragraph about McNeely and some of his background work, and I think that an entire series merits a section on the creators and their background, at least briefly.
 * 43) * Disambig link to other KotOR products needed.
 * 44) **Added. - Sikon 12:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 45) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating Day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 18:24, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 46) From the lair of Hobbes15
 * 47) *"Vision on the rogue moon"? What is this (the Lucien Draay section) ? As it isn't mentioned before, some mention should go in Draay's bio.
 * 48) *Does Characters need to be referenced? At the very least, the final paragraph of each character should be referenced, if not the main information area, IMO.
 * 49) *Per Ataru on the Plot Summary prose. ..."standing right there with lightsabers drawn", "misled"... the prose could most definitely be improved.
 * 50) *"the operation that eventually results in Arven being freed"? What operation? Some detail about it should be added.
 * 51) * Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 04:17, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Nominated on Sikon's behalf per request on IRC. -- [[Image:AckbarSig.jpg|40px]] dmirableAckbar  ( It's A Trap! ) 17:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Confirming the request on IRC. :) Plus some responses:
 * Sourced the "KotOR" abbreviation.
 * Replaced infobox picture per Greyman's suggestion, deleted Image:Kotor.jpg. Removed caption.
 * Removed references to other DH titles and specific years from the intro. Tell me if anything else needs to be done about it.
 * As I told Imp on IRC, 2007 has the "Days/Knights" subtitle because that's how Dark Horse refers to that meta-arc. There was no codename for 2006, hence no subtitle.
 * Renamed "Core characters" to just "Characters". But what is meant by "wookifying" this section? I'm not sure it needs to be expanded, either - it's an article about the overall series, so I tried to be as brief and concise as possible when describing the individual plot summaries and characters. Entries on individual arcs may have longer descriptions.
 * I still feel that the character entries should be longer, but I understand your reasoning and struck that particular objection. Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Removed spaces around mdashes.
 * Reception section: I'll add it soon.
 * Thin paragraphs: I'll expand them.
 * Sourced the unsourced part of the "Continuity" section. Things without a reference footnote are sourced in-text - for example, "Alek references the Great Sith War in Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 0: Crossroads."
 * Issue 0: Crossroads is already in the Media section, just out-of-order. Fourdot suggested listing everything by release date, and #0 was released after #1 and #2.
 * Put "Notes and references" in a scroll box, although I'm personally not a big fan of them.
 * Templatized the description for Image:Kotorteam.jpg.
 * - Sikon 07:48, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Could someone strike Slash Z's vote, as he has no edits on the main namespace? Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:22, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Not a opposed vote here, but I tried previewing the article with all the character images on the right instead of on the left, and I think the article looks better that way. Anybody else want to take look at it that way and see if they agree? - JMAS 18:56, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

(1 Inq/2 Users/3 Total)
Support
 * 1) I put a lot of work into this one; I think it's accurate, interesting, concise and complete. I would definitely welcome any criticisms or suggestions, but I definitely think it is worthy of being a featured article. &mdash; Colinmcev Talk 03:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Thefourdotelipsis 04:27, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  19:08, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Object Comments
 * 1) Just glanced at it, but the Personality and Traits should be at the end of the article, you know. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 04:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *Fixed that.--Colinmcev 18:30, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Would be nice to have a BTS (Behind the scenes) section, covering stuff like who created the character, where he first appeared, any continuity errors, etc. Also, this would be a good place to include one of those wacky Galaxies pics. -- Ozzel 02:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) *Added both. Thanks for the great suggestions!--Colinmcev 01:35, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) From the Thoroughly Pounded Desk of Four Dot:
 * 6) * There's a little bit of POV in the intro, and "He betrayed Rogue Squadron during a covert mission and attempted to kill Corran Horn, but he was shot and killed by his lover, Inyri Forge." could probably be rephrased.
 * 7) **I reworked it a litlte bit and removed what I thought was the POV. If there is any left, or if you think it needs further rephrasing, please let me know or feel free to tweak it.--Colinmcev 01:27, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) * "Zekka Thyne served on Black Sun" - Sounds dangerous. I think he just "served Black Sun", but I think "joined the Black Sun syndicate" would be better.
 * 9) **I agree! Fixed that.--Colinmcev 01:28, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) * Just a general observation: There are a lot of unsightly "thin" paragraphs. Of course, you can "cheat" on this one and just merge a couple of the offending paragraphs together.
 * 11) **This is a bad habit of mine; in real life, I'm a reporter, and in newspaper articles small paragraphs are required. lol. I tightened them up a bit, but if you still think there are paragraphs that are too thin, please point out which ones and I'll make further fixes.--Colinmcev 01:38, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * Another observation: The end of every paragraph containing In-universe information should have a relevant citation.
 * 13) **Fixed that.--Colinmcev 01:41, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) * "eliminate single targets and slaughtering informers and even their families." - This could be worded better.
 * 15) **Tightened the sentence altogether, I think it's better now.--Colinmcev 01:42, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) * "In 7 BBY, Fliry Vorru, then a Moff in charge of the Corellian Sector, was sent to Kessel after being framed by Prince Xizor. This allowed Xizor to establish Zekka Thyne as his chief associate in Corellia." - How so? This might need more clarification.
 * 17) **Done.--Colinmcev 01:43, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) * "However, he was well protected by his heavily protected fortress" - One of the "protected"'s needs to be replaced, methinks.
 * 19) **Yeesh, what a lame mistake. Fixed that.--Colinmcev 01:43, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) * Even though you link to cutter, you might want to briefly explain what it is.
 * 21) **Done.--Colinmcev 01:44, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 22) * Take the image of the Bothan Thyne out of the bio and put it in the BtS. Also, assume that they're separate characters. I cite Chertyl Ruluwoor as a precedent.
 * 23) **I don't necessarily agree that the SWG Thyne should be a seperate character since both are affiliated with Black Sun and are clearly meant to be one and the same; maybe it's just me, but I think just noting the Bothan discrepency is enough. But I did move the pic.--Colinmcev 01:49, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 24) * "Although Loor attended the meeting during which the plan was formed, he started a confrontation with Corran Horn that resulted in Fliry Vorru punching him in his abdomen injury and smashing his head against the table." - Eh? You might have gotten you characters a bit mixed up there.
 * 25) **Yeah, that "Loor" should be a "Thyne." Fixed it.--Colinmcev 01:50, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 26) * The preceding sentence also starts with "Although", which doesn't flow well.
 * 27) **Fixed that and redid much of the sentence altogether.--Colinmcev 01:52, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 28) * "With this, Zekka Thyne died." - Too short a sentence, but I could be wrong. You'll want to integrate it into the preceding paragraph, though.
 * 29) **I think the short sentence works for effect, but I agree that it is WAY too short as an individual paragraph. Merged it with the previous one.--Colinmcev 01:53, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 30) * Mention who the other spy was in the Post-death section.
 * 31) **Done.--Colinmcev 01:55, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 32) *Best of luck with all that. It might take a bit of work, but I think there's some good foundation here. Thefourdotelipsis 09:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 33) **If there's anything else, please don't hesitate to let me know. Thanks for the thorough look!--Colinmcev 01:56, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, first things first: Don't strike other people's objections. It's frowned upon. However, you got most of them. I still have an issue with the paragraph spacing. Basically, in the first half of the article, merge every pair of paragraphs. It just looks a lot neater and, well, meatier. Thefourdotelipsis 23:27, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) **I'm really sorry about that, I've never nominated an article before so I didn't really know the proper procedure. I tightened the paragraphs a bit, let me know if you think that looks better.--Colinmcev 23:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) ***That's OK, you know now. Good work with this though. It looks fine to me now. Thefourdotelipsis 04:27, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Got some things here:
 * 4) * In the Appointment to Corellia section, it first says the Moff was framed by Xizor. Then it later syas it is widely believed he was framed. That sounds reptitive and contradicts the above info somewhat.
 * 5) **Actually, Moff Fliry Vorru was definitely framed, and accordingly that is definitively stated. But the person who is noted as "widely believed" to have been framed is the previous owner of the fortress. That isn't Vorru, it's someone else who is never identified in any of the source material. So the two references are not related, and I don't think there's an error there.--Colinmcev 01:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) * Also, the protected fortress thing that Fourdot mentioned earlier needs fixing.
 * 7) **Right you are. Fixed that.--Colinmcev 01:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) * In the Spy for Lorr section, the last paragraph needs to be ref'ed.
 * 9) **Done.--Colinmcev 01:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) * In the Imperial scheme section, the second-to-last paragraph needs to be rephrased. It's too repetitive.
 * 11) **Good call. I think I fixed it, but if you still think it needs work, let me know or go ahead and rephrase it.--Colinmcev 02:00, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * The last paragraph int hat section needs to be sourced.
 * 13) **Done.--Colinmcev 02:00, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) * In the Imprisonment paragraph, the "Maw" needs to be unlinked.
 * 15) **OK..--Colinmcev 02:02, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) * The first paragraph needs to be sourced too.
 * 17) **Fixed it.--Colinmcev 02:02, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) * In Presence on Coruscant, the first paragraph needs to be rephraes as it sounds repetitive.
 * 19) **I agree, big time. Fixed it.--Colinmcev 02:04, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) * Also, change execute to shoot.
 * 21) **To be honest, I don't think this change is entirely necessary, but I made it anyway.--Colinmcev 02:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 22) * In the Death section, "this new" should be "this news".
 * 23) **Another dumb mistake. Fixed.--Colinmcev 02:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 24) * In P&T, the word "Wookiee" needs to be unlinked. Also, rearrange it so it flows, going from his perosnality to his appearance than his tastes, not jumping around.
 * 25) **I think it already is that way; the first paragraph is personality, then we have three paragraphs of appearance, and the last one about his art taste. If this isn't acceptable, can you give me some further clarification on how it could be rearranged?--Colinmcev 02:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 26) * And everything from Release from Kessel to Post-death needs sourcing.
 * 27) **Done.--Colinmcev 02:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 28) *Good luck.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 19:24, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 29) **Thanks again, I really appreciate the thoroughness!--Colinmcev 02:09, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 30) And now for something completely similar:
 * 31) *Source the rest of the infobox.
 * 32) *There's a few instances of redundant ref tags. If the whole paragraph is from the same source it only needs one ref at the end.
 * 33) **Removed those. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 01:34, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 34) *Include information about his quest in Galaxies.
 * 35) *Intro: "Although rumored to be the heir-apparent to Xizor's criminal organization..." Rumoured by who? This needs to be mentioned later in the article and sourced.
 * 36) *Imperial scheme and capture: Source the first paragraph.
 * 37) *Imprisonment on Kessel: "a spicer term used to describe close enough to a person that they could be trusted with cutting their spice" Can this be reworded?
 * 38) *Presence on Coruscant: Needs something to lead into second paragraph, even if it's just "Some time later..." As it is, it feels disjointed.
 * 39) *Presence on Coruscant: Second paragraph has a sentence starting with "but". Kill it if possible.
 * 40) *Presence on Coruscant: A brief mention of how the Rogues got involved in the Imperial raid would not go amiss.
 * 41) *Personality and traits: "one massive black eye that was slowly fading" is a quote from the narrative, not something in-universe. Lose the quotes and make it something like "Corran Horn thought that it gave the impression..." Green Tentacle (Talk) 19:58, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 42) From the lair of Hobbes15
 * 43) *Per GT on the infobox.
 * 44) *Mention somewhere in the bio that he was born on Corellia, if this can be referenced.
 * 45) *Needs a mention of how Black Sun met its downfall.
 * 46) *The last sentence of Spy for Kirtan Loor seems a little out of place. Perhaps place it after the segment about the destruction (sort of) of Black Sun.
 * 47) *Ref the end of the first paragraph of 1.4.
 * 48) *The last bit of 1.4 that says Thrawn captured Thyne is a bit unclear. I thought it said the Horns captured him earlier; in addition, a little mention on what happened after Hal shot him would be nice.
 * 49) *"to describe close enough to a person that they could be trusted with cutting their spice"? This is unclear.
 * 50) *"Myda wanted to take the offer, Kassar insisted that Inyri must make her own decision, and even expressed hope that Inyri might be able to change Thyne for the better." Who the heck are are Myda and Kassar?
 * 51) *The first sentence of Presence on Coruscant makes no sense. When is Thyne talking to Horn? It is unclear what's happening there. All it says is that Thyne was about to be released, then next thing you know, he's psychologically attacking Horn.
 * 52) *"to look back and check on Inyri"? This could be reworded and made much clearer and more interesting than it is at the moment.
 * 53) *Mention why Loor feared Horn would try to kill him in 1.8.
 * 54) *Rogue Squadron Betrayal and Death is an unclear headline. Who's doing the betraying&mdash; Thyne or the Rogues?
 * 55) *First paragraph of this section is unclear and should be slightly reworded.
 * 56) *"Thyne instead told him there was at least one other spy in Rogue Squadron, although Thyne did not know that Rogue Squadron pilot Erisi Dlarit was the spy." This doesn't make sense, and Rogue Squadron is over-used in the sentence.
 * 57) *In Post-death, the article makes it seem like Horn died in his confrontation with Celchu, not in the battle following it.
 * 58) *In the P&T, could the three paragraphs regarding his appearance be merged into one?
 * 59) *Is it specifically said in Side Trip that Thyne's taste in art was considered questionable by most? If not, it needs a seperate reference.
 * 60) *Do you have a reference for the fact that Thyne was only referenced in the parts of the story written by Stackpole (BTS)?
 * If, as GT says, he has a specific role in Galaxies beyond a mere appearance, it does need to be mentioned.
 * 1) *And that's all. Good luck with those. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 01:34, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) *I finally got to read Side Trip and I expanded the section with a whole lot of info from that. As that was the final major source for Zekka, I think this article is pretty much as complete as possible.--Colinmcev 01:35, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *Colinmcev, I uncrossed Chack's objections, because, after checking the history, I realized that he didn't cross them out, you did. For future reference, the way these things work is that you make a comment when you've addressed an objection, the objecting user looks at the article, checks to see if the objection is fixed to his/her satisfaction, and then crosses it off. If they still see a problem, they'll point it out. Thank you, and good work with the objections ;). Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 02:24, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) *Yeah, I'm sorry about that; as I said about, I've never nominated an article before so I didn't really know the proper procedure. I was basically crossing them off as I fixed them, but I'll make sure that doesn't happen again.--Colinmcev 23:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) **It's fine. I'll try to look at the article later today.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 10:30, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

(3 Inqs/4 Users/7 Total)
Support Oppose Comments
 * 1) --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 17:23, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Jedimca0(Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 18:14, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) I think the BtS could be meatier, and "cruel" strikes me as POV, but it's not enough to object. Thefourdotelipsis 07:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  19:08, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 5)  &mdash;Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 16:17, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 13:45, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Green Tentacle (Talk) 22:19, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) From the lair of Hobbes15
 * 2) * As Crumb's death is mentioned in the intro, Pic's should be as well.
 * 3) **Done.
 * 4) * "Kowakian monkey-lizards[1]"? What's the ref for?
 * 5) **No idea. Removed.
 * 6) *And that's all I've got on this nom. Simus, Teek, and now monkey-lizards? I hate to think what'll be next ;). Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 02:02, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) **My next projects will be rather more serious, I'm afraid.--  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 09:50, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) ***All TOTJ!? NOOOO! ;). Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 13:45, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I know it looks like it should be longer based on the amount of appearances, but most of them were just Crumb and had no info on the species --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 17:23, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

(4 Inq/3 Users/7 Total)
Support Oppose
 * 1) Such a lovable character --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 21:25, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Goodwood  [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 21:35, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) &mdash;Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 02:52, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) "I am your reward; you don't find me handsome?" Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 15:32, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Thefourdotelipsis 04:14, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Green Tentacle (Talk) 22:22, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 7)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:44, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) From the Forest of Goodwood:
 * 2) * Slight grammatical error in BtS.
 * 3) **Addressed.
 * 4) * BtS could be expanded just a bit, methinks.
 * 5) **Largely useless paragraph added, though I couldn't think of anything better to add.
 * 6) * The sentence "Shu Mai was angry at Dooku, who had told her that the fall of Castell was all part of the plan; the Commerce Guild had become expendable, according to Mai." could be rewritten and potentially expanded upon.
 * 7) **Addressed.
 * 8) * "In 19 BBY, Shu Mai attended a meeting between the members of the Separatist Council and General Grievous, the supreme commander of the Separatist Droid Armies. The leaders of the Council were intimidated by Grievous, though they put up with him because of his alliance with Dooku. They met in Grievous's flagship, the Invisible Hand, where the cyborg told them that because their homeworlds had fallen to the Republic and their purse-worlds were no longer secure, they would be relocated to the Outer Rim territories; however, Grievous had yet to capture one for them. He told them to wait in their respective vessels docked on his flagship while he found them a suitable world." Needs to be rewritten to properly explain the situation; plus, Outer Rim Territories needs to be capitalized.
 * 9) **Addressed.
 * 10) *Other then that, a good read. TIMMMMBERRRR!!!-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 21:59, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) From the squalid cublicle of Graestan:
 * 12) *This is not a TOTJ article.
 * 13) **Not a rule based objection. :P
 * 14) * "The sly Mai then secretly aligned the Guild with the Confederacy of Independent Systems, a group of powerful individuals, led by the mysterious Darth Sidious, who broke away from and subsequently waged war on the Galactic Republic."&mdash;reword to avoid misinterpretation.
 * 15) **Addressed.
 * 16) * I know she was in charge, but as an elected leader, the Guild's forces did not belong personally to her. Please refrain from referring to the Guild and its possessions as "hers."
 * 17) **Addressed.
 * 18) * Ouch! Quote needed at beginning of bio, preferably between the headings!
 * 19) **Several quotes added.
 * 20) * A quote for P&T is desired.
 * 21) **Addressed.
 * 22) * "During the financial crisis, things became so severe for the saurian species that they were murdering each other over food, money and passage offworld, however the Commerce Guild stepped in and effectively saved the planet from complete disaster"&mdash;please break this up.
 * 23) **Addressed.
 * 24) * "higher and higher ranked" is an awkward phrasing.
 * 25) **Addressed.
 * 26) * Look over the links again; I see things linked on the second or third opportunity. Links are also missing for a few things further down.
 * 27) **Addressed.
 * 28) * You cannot call Ansion "insignificant" without explaining, or else it is POV.
 * 29) **Addressed.
 * 30) * "Senator" should always be capitalized as a title, such as "Senator Mousul."
 * 31) **Addressed.
 * 32) * Last paragraph of "Presidente" needs attention. Please reword, focusing on breaking up sentences and clearing up ambiguously interpreted phrasing.
 * 33) **Addressed.
 * 34) * "Just as it looked as if the Jedi would be executed"&mdash;reword, less neither-here-nor-there.
 * 35) **Addressed.
 * 36) * Beginning one paragraph with "several months later" and the next with "nine months later" is a little too play-by-playish for me.
 * 37) **Addressed.
 * 38) * "Knowing the Jedi were on her tail, and that the planet would soon fall from the CIS's grasp, she had a protocol put in place, which, if the planet became under attack, would poison the water supply of Felucia, crippling the planet and making it next to useless for the Republic."&mdash;please break up.
 * 39) **Addressed.
 * 40) * "planet Mustafar" shouldn't be used twice so close together.
 * 41) **Addressed.
 * 42) * Saying she was careful to remain within the letter of the law (in the bio) and then saying that she was willing to employ illegal methods (in the P&T) is contradictory.
 * 43) **Well, the thing about that is that she herself never broke the law, but she was happy to have others do it on her behalf. Anyway, I clarified it a little.
 * 44) *&mdash; Graestan [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 01:47, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 45) The infobox image needs to be sourced. --Eyrezer 02:37, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 46) *Addressed.
 * 47) From the lair of Hobbes15
 * 48) * "...and eventually rose ranks several more times." "rose ranks" doesn't sound that good, and should maybe be changed to was promoted or something.
 * 49) **Changed.
 * 50) * Is it just me, or is sly (intro) a little close to POV?
 * 51) **I don't think it is, but removed anyway.
 * 52) * Unsourced quote in Presidente section.
 * 53) **Addressed.
 * 54) * Dooku did not meet with Mai and other Separatists in 20 BBY, it must have been earlier. Correct this.
 * 55) **Addressed.
 * 56) * "Other than Mai and the Commerce Guild, no one had noticed that such a backwater planet as Ansion lay at the center of so many interlocking treaties." Wrong. The Jedi knew as well&mdash; that's why they sent the team to the planet. Perhaps change "no one" to very few.
 * 57) **Addressed.
 * 58) * Should "Separatist War Room" be linked? (Clone Wars)
 * 59) **Addressed.
 * 60) * "the situation."(lead quote of Close of the War)? This should be elaborated upon a bit.
 * 61) **Elaborated upon.
 * 62) * "Gunray, however, had no idea what Shu Mai was speaking about; he pretended that his mechno-chair had been malfunctioning,[16] though in truth it had been left behind after his evacuation on Cato Neimoidia, and was now in Republic hands.[10]" This doesn't make sense&mdash; what does Gunray's mechnochair have to do with Mai's communication, and if its been left behind, how did Mai talk to Gunray in the first place?
 * 63) **Clarified.
 * 64) * "she fell to her knees and begged for mercy, though the Sith was not a merciful being..." This should be reworded&mdash; mercy is used twice in quick succession, which sounds bad.
 * 65) **Addressed.
 * 66) *And that's all. Nice quote for Death, that's one of my favorites :). Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 14:50, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 67) **Thank you for your comments and input --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 15:24, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 68) *From the extensively pounded desk of Four Dot:
 * 69) ** Describing the species at the start of the article seems...well...racist. ;)
 * 70) ***Addressed to only describe her.
 * 71) ** "Mai was not the only one approached: Nute Gunray of the Trade Federation, former senators Po Nudo and Tikkes, San Hill of the InterGalactic Banking Clan, Wat Tambor of the Techno Union, as well as Archduke Poggle the Lesser and many others were approached by Dooku." - Approached twice...isn't doing wonders for me.
 * 72) ***Addressed.
 * 73) ** I'd like a bit more film-centric ness in the death section. At the moment, it seems like a mish-mash of the comic, the book, and the film, which is a tad untidy. I'm not even sure if the quote is canon.
 * 74) ***I've kept the quote in the absence of another one, though the section is now film-centric.
 * 75) **That's all. Thefourdotelipsis 00:27, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 76) Remove the link to Rise of the Empire era from the intro since it's a publishing era. Green Tentacle (Talk) 18:40, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 77) *Done. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 22:20, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 78) From the Grey of Man:
 * 79) * The Dialogue template was decided against in this policy; please correct.
 * 80) **Addressed.
 * 81) * Are the links in the quote attributions necessary? It shouldn't take that much to link that stuff in the actual article.
 * 82) **Removed.
 * 83) * Does Evasive Action: Reversal of Fortune not have any information on her? If it doesn't, then it needs to have a or similar template tagged to it. If that comic does have information on her, then it needs to be added to the article and ref tagged.
 * 84) **There's already some info from Reversal of Fortune in the "Close of the War" section. Ref number 16.
 * 85) ***Ah, my mistake then&mdash;I missed that ref when I was looking through it :) Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:44, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 86) * Also, it's been a while, so correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the novelizations of Ep II and Ep III have additional information pertaining to her? Info that's different than the movies? If so, then it needs to be added and ref'd.
 * 87) **I added some from the Aotc novel, but the only real stuff about her in the ROTS novel was her death, which 4dot wanted to keep more film...y.
 * 88) * Could we have some examples of what you say in this sentence from the P&T? "She often had even those who had shown slight distrust in her killed, or else those whose jobs she craved."
 * 89) **I added examples to the distrust thing, but the only mention of the having people killed was in Gamer 10, which doesn't give any specifics or examples.
 * 90) *Other than those few things, nice read, and not a character I've read much into before. Good job. Greyman ( Paratus ) 23:20, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 91) **Thank you for your comments and input --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 15:27, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Comments

(4 Inqs/4 Users/8 Total)
Support Oppose Comments
 * 1) Havac 08:59, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) A good read.  Greyman ( Paratus ) 04:42, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Too bad about the lack of action images. Meh.-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 06:35, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Thefourdotelipsis 00:00, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 5)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  01:09, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) No epaulets! Cull Tremayne 15:07, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Insanity to the first degree! But in a good way. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 03:32, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) Might as well throw my support to this article. It really is a good read, if'n you have the time to read it. Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 19:10, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Bah! More than 3 redlinks! :P  Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:10, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *Fixed. Havac 18:08, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Just a couple of minor things from the Forest of Goodwood.
 * 4) * Picture of a bacta tank is unneeded.
 * 5) **Not particularly, no, but it maintains a rather steady distribution of images instead of having one large section go completely without one and leave a large imageless blank space in the article. It's not particularly hurting anything and helps keep the presentation uniform, so I'd generally prefer it to stay. Havac 05:06, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) * Many of the pictures could be a bit bigger and repositioned to help break up the large blocks of text.
 * 7) **I think they're about as big as they can reasonably be. I'm not sure what you mean about repositioning them, though. There's not a whole lot of room to move them around. Havac 05:06, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) * At least one more action picture relating to Pelly would be nice, but isn't required if none are to be had.
 * 9) **None are to be had, unfortunately. Havac 05:06, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) *TIMMMMBERRRR!-- Goodwood [[Image:Rebsymbol2.png|20px]] ( For the Rebellion! ) 04:38, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) This is minor, and I could be wrong, but shouldn't ranks like "Admiral" and "Moff" be capitalized all the time? For your sake, Havac, I hope I'm wrong.  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  20:13, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No, I don't believe so. Havac 20:52, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * "...he admitted that he would need a top-flight slicer to travel to Yaga Minor and attempt..." - Eh, "top-flight" is very informal. Very. Thefourdotelipsis 08:54, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * "Pellaeon took the opportunity of being left along to have Dreyf jimmy open Disra's desk drawers." - Informal. Don't touch Jimmy! Thefourdotelipsis 08:55, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Get off Jimmy's back! Both fixed. Havac 23:57, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) From the lair of Hobbes15
 * 2) * "Pellaeon had all he could do to preserve his own ship"? This isn't clear.
 * 3) **Common turn of phrase. He had his hands full trying to preserve it. Havac 21:52, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) ***Meh. "...had all he could do..." doesn't seem right to me, but I'll defer. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:27, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) * "Disaster at Endor" is slightly POV&mdash;it certainly wasn't a disaster for both sides. Perhaps it should be "Battle of Endor."
 * 6) **It was a disaster for Pellaeon. As we're describing his life, I don't think it's that out of line. If it were for an article on the Rebel Alliance, or the Galactic Civil War in general, certainly it would be POV, but when it was an unambiguous bad thing for the person in question, heading that section of their article in accordance with its effects of them should be suitable. Havac 21:52, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) * "would-be warlords"? They were warlords, weren't they?
 * 8) **Well, they haven't exactly set up their own fiefs yet. They split off so that they could become warlords, really. At this point, they're just deserters. Havac 21:52, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) ***Well, there weren't really any who didn't become warlords. How about "soon-to-be warlords? Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:27, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) ****Actually, the individuals involved being rather indeterminate other than Harrsk, we actually don't know that -- some could have ended up serving others, like how Apwar Trigit went rogue to serve under Zsinj, etc. I think this is actually the cleanest, most factually accurate way to say it. Havac 04:22, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) *****I guess that's fine, then. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 03:32, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * When you say the freighter escaped, it seems as if it left the system, when in reality it landed. Also, it should be mentioned that the Solo's were behind the chase for Killik Twilight.
 * 13) **Elaborated. Havac 21:52, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) * "the theory that he had been so unwilling to believe" is unclear&mdash; the article does not actually say Pellaeon didn't believe C'Baoth was capable of coordinating forces before this is stated.
 * 15) **Well, it says he "resisted Thrawn's argument" and "disliked . . . the idea". Saying in that same original paragraph that he didn't really accept it seemed kind of like overkill. The point should be made; in any case, the statement in question makes it clear he hadn't quite believed it until now. I don't think it's too off. Havac 21:52, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) ***Okay, then. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:27, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 17) * "and modified his plans." How so?
 * 18) **Well, it says Thrawn was considering killing Skywalker, Pellaeon said it was unwise, and Thrawn agreed and modified his plans. Clearly, he decided to capture Skywalker if at all possible. It's a less tedious way of saying, "He issued orders to do exactly what Pellaeon just suggested he should do." Havac 21:52, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 19) ***I made a small change; you can change it back if you think it disrupts the flow. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:27, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) * What was the result of the search for Skywalker? He's stranded in space, then lo and behold he's stopping the attack on Sluis Van. I realize it's mentioned later, but a short mention is needed during the explanation of the battle to prevent the reader from being confused.
 * 21) **It's only the one paragraph between the disappearance and the explanation, and I think it distracts too much from the flow of the article to go off on tangents about Skywalker when you can keep it in the context of what Pellaeon knows and have a follow-up of "how that happened" in the next paragraph. It's not like the article is about Luke. Havac 21:52, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 22) * Although maitrakh is linked, it might need a little explanation.
 * 23) **I'd like to, but, again, it kills the flow. Tangents to explain a little detail that has enough context to tell you "It's some kind of local authority" and a link to tell you more . . . I think it would make an already long sentence just too convoluted. Havac 21:52, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 24) ***That works. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:27, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 25) * "The Chimaera prepared to aid the Judicator, present at the Katana site. C'baoth suddenly arrived on a Lancer-class frigate, the crew of which he had under his mental control. The Dark Jedi demanded to talk and would not be dissuaded." Is it just me, or does something seem missing there?
 * 26) **See if the change clears it up. Havac 21:52, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 27) * "Unexpected tragedy" is also slightly POV. Perhaps change to "Unexpected loss."
 * 28) **Done. Havac 21:52, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 29) * Daala's "first campaign" (Rebuilding the Empire) should be linked or explained a bit.
 * 30) **Clarified. Havac 21:52, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 31) * "Fortunately, Ghent was available." So? Explain that Ghent was a capable slicer, otherwise the reader may not get the point.
 * 32) **Clarified. Havac 21:52, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 33) * "Pellaeon also got the side benefit of being highly amused by his verbal abuse of the Yuuzhan Vong commander." Is this really needed?
 * 34) **Yes. Yes it is. Pelly had fun toying with Vorrik. Establishes his mindset. Havac 21:52, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 35) ***If you insist ^_^. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:27, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 36) * "Galactic Alliance officers had hesitated to trust Pellaeon earlier; now he was entrusted with retaking the galactic capital.[1][39][15][16]" Place the references that belong after the semicolon there, rather than at the sentence's end.
 * 37) **They all belong there. It's one sentence. Havac 21:52, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 38) ***Yes, but Pellaeon wasn't entrusted with retaking Coruscant in Remnant or Reunion. The reference(s) where it states that the GA officers were reluctant to trust Pellaeon should go after the statement that says so (which is where the semicolon is), and the ones that say he was entrusted with the retaking of Coruscant should go after the statement that says that. Otherwise, it seems like all the info from the sentence is told/ stated in all of those ref's. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:27, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 39) ****Mmmmmmm . . . I've never reffed like that, and I hesitate to start. I ref whole sentences, which I think is the cleanest way to do it -- reffing words and clauses and bits of punctuation just becomes too disjointed, and having the little ref tags floating in the middle of statements is ugly and, I think, more than is needed. I'm all for reffing the heck out things, but I draw the line at breaking up sentences into bits and pieces to source. Your mileage may vary, but I think it works. Havac 04:22, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 40) *****I can understand that, and I agree with you in that I don't like leaving references randomly in the middle of sentences much. However, when there's something like a semicolon that divides the sentence up neatly, like there is here, I think it isn't too much of a stretch to ref that way. After all, a semicolon is basically used to merge two sentences into one. But I suppose that's personal preference, as we don't really have a hard and fast rule for something like this, so if you choose to leave it the way it is, I'm fine with it. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 03:32, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 41) * He also attempted to counter Omas's growing resentment of the Jedi, whom he felt were undermining his administration; Pellaeon had great faith in Skywalker and the Jedi." This doesn't make sense. Did Pellaeon think the Jedi were undermining him, or did Omas?
 * 42) **Well, it's not Pellaeon's administration. Havac 21:52, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 43) ***Point conceded. My mistake. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:27, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 44) * "Even more disturbing", then "Still more disturbing" needs to be reworded.
 * 45) **The whole point was that they built on one another. "He thought this was disturbing . . . but then he saw this, and oh, man!" It's deliberate parallelism, rather than accidental overreliance on one word. Havac 21:52, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 46) ***Ah, I see what you mean. It doesn't look good on a computer screen, but read aloud, it makes more sense. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:27, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 47) *That's all. Besides these, insanely brilliant. Great article. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 07:02, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 48) From the squalid cubicle of Graestan:
 * 49) *In the intro, "continued serving" is used twice a twinge too close together.
 * 50) *Article can be more thoroughly linked.
 * 51) *"Pellaeon later recalled fighting unstable clones as part of the fleet; he may well have spent the last months of the war serving in the siege of Saleucami, in which a clone Morgukai army was destroyed."&mdash;Speculative, but in my opinion, acceptable. However, the fact that it is a near-certainty could be pointed out in the BtS.
 * 52) *"Precisely why Pellaeon was assigned these administrative duties remained unclear."&mdash;While events in the GFFA happened a long time ago, the observer still resides in the present, and instances like this should be changed to present tense.
 * 53) *"After the initial rush of enthusiasm, Pellaeon had a hard time getting used to the idea of an alien officer; whether because of speciesism or the simple novelty of such a thing under the Empire was unclear."&mdash;Another tense issue.
 * 54) *"Grand Admiral" should be capitalized when used outside of direct titles also, as it is a specific title and not a POV statement about how much we like Thrawn. Same goes for "Vice Admiral," per the MOS
 * 55) * &mdash;Graestan [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 19:23, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Another insanely long article! This one is, BTW, a re-FA nomination. Havac 08:59, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

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Support
 * 1) Thefourdotelipsis 08:17, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) "Confidence trickster." &mdash;Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 23:46, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) bah!  Greyman ( Paratus ) 17:36, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Green Tentacle (Talk) 18:12, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) From the bowling ball of Green Tentacle:
 * 2) * Source the infobox.
 * 3) **Fixed. Thefourdotelipsis 04:45, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) * Fugitive, paragraph 1: You mentioned that Marn suspected Zayne killed the Padawans but then the wanted sign appears without saying that that's what he was being accused of.
 * 5) **Fixed. Thefourdotelipsis 04:45, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) * Fugitive, paragraph 2: "He intended to contact Vandrayk in the undercity and obtain a method of escape, but he told Carrick that they would be journeying to the dangerous Undercity." Is that first "undercity" right cause it doesn't seem to make sense?
 * 7) **Yes, that's a mistake. Fixed. Thefourdotelipsis 04:45, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) * Fugitive, paragraph 2: Last two sentences might fit in better after the second sentence since they seem related to it.
 * 9) **Ah, yes, much better. Fixed. Thefourdotelipsis 04:45, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) * Fugitive, paragraph 2: "Seeing that the Wookiee had let them off at the wrong stop, Hierogryph was able to convince the Vulkars that the Wookiee had sewn spice capsules into his cart harness." So...?
 * 11) **Elaborated. Thefourdotelipsis 04:45, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) * Mandalorian Wars, paragraph 1: Explain the scam better. All it says is that the Republic personnel fled from Jarael disguised as a Jedi and some pyrotechnics.
 * 13) **Elaborated. Thefourdotelipsis 04:45, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) * Little Bivoli, paragraph 2: And the "purpose of the Bivoli" would be?
 * 15) **Elaborated. Thefourdotelipsis 04:45, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) * Behind the scenes: Did he not first appear in Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 0: Crossroads? Green Tentacle (Talk) 22:16, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 17) **See Sikon's excellent (IMO) KOTOR article for details. 0 was released in March, 1 in January. Thefourdotelipsis 04:45, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * Bam! Thefourdotelipsis 08:17, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Not really an objection, but can that Quote page be cleaned up? Cull Tremayne 22:26, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * What is the meaning of "confidence trickster", and is it supposed to be obvious? Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 03:54, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Confidence trick. Basically, a con-man. But I prefer this term. Thefourdotelipsis 06:41, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

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Support
 * 1) Thefourdotelipsis 10:48, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2)  &mdash;Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 01:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Green Tentacle (Talk) 22:27, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) The e-mail returns! No! Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 03:46, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 5)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 14:02, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose

Comments
 * Can we get the Fact File number? Green Tentacle (Talk) 22:00, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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Support
 * 1) Thefourdotelipsis 04:52, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2)  &mdash;Graestan  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 03:34, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose

Comments
 * Part 2 of the cane saga. Next up, Michael Caine. Oh...damn. Thefourdotelipsis 04:52, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Not an objection, but perhaps a mention of the placing of the panel thingy (for Ree-Yees to track the shipments of the bomb parts) under one of Bubo's warts could be added. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 23:10, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

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Support
 * 1) Thefourdotelipsis 12:19, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) QuentinGeorge 12:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 14:02, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Imperialles 20:12, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) From the fjord of Imperialles:
 * 2) * Image:Baytes.jpg is grainy&mdash;re-scan it. (Rule 16)
 * 3) * Image:BaytsOff.JPG has horrible .jpg artifacts. Re-scan it. (Rule 16)
 * 4) * Image:TheDeathofSoonBaytes.jpg, too, is in need of a re-scan due to .jpg artifacts. (Rule 16)
 * Other than that, nice handiwork. --Imperialles 17:12, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * I don't want to get ahead of myself, but let me just thank Fourdot for erecting such a magnificent article. If nothing else, he has proved he is still master of his domain, and not one to get swayed by a mass debate. QuentinGeorge 12:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Anyway, I doubt the article can reach an appropriate climax without a link to this thread. QuentinGeorge 12:27, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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Support
 * 1) Nah-nah! --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 16:21, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Thefourdotelipsis 22:48, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  15:34, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Comments
 * 1) From the desk of Atarumaster88
 * 2) * Ugh. Numerous spelling errors. Go through and make sure you've taken care of them all please. Or should I say "tokken"?
 * 3) **Taken care of. Three does not equal numerous. &mdash;Graestan [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 04:35, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) ***That's not counting the ones I noted in IRC or fixed myself. I just got tired of it eventually. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 05:27, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) *Fragmented flow in the History and culture section. The prose jumps from subject to subject and does not have adequate paragraph breaks.
 * 6) **I think I've addressed that. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 16:23, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) * Saying in the image caption that Teek is the most well-known of his species is A) OOU B.S. and B) Speculative.
 * 8) **Addressed. &mdash;Graestan [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( This party's over ) 04:35, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) * Wait wait. So it's not confirmed that Yeep is a Teek? Um, canon? I demand all mentions of Yeep be moved to BTS unless confirmed.
 * 10) *Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-friendly day. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 22:39, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) **I intend to --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 16:23, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) From the Heavily Pounded Desk of Four Dot
 * 13) * You've got two very, very similar images. I'd suggest replacing the infobox image with a full body shot, as it's a better representation of the species. Also, one of Teek running might be nice. ;)
 * 14) **Added an image of blurry Teek, and I've asked Ozzel to get a full body screenshot. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 15:41, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 15) * "The other Teeks had a normal mouth," - Normal!? Eh?
 * 16) **Addressed. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 15:41, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 17) *That's all. Thefourdotelipsis 09:58, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) History section needs to be separated into a Teek in the Galaxy section. Also some of the paragraphs seem out of order. Also the line about Teeks being discovered but not noticed by Imperial scouts needs to be clarified to make sense. Also mention of the Teek in The Bounty Hunters: Aurra Sing is needed. A pic from that source would be good also. --Eyrezer 02:41, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 19) *Teeks in the galaxy section created. Which paragraphs/sections are out of order? Sentence clarified. Teeks don't play a role at all in it: Aurra Sing is walking through a forest on Endor and there is a Teek sticking his head up in the foreground. They only appear in one frame, and the picture isn't great and is too small to enhance the article, IMHO. Thank you for your input. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 21:06, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) **Looks good. I thought the para about Yeep was out of order, but now in the TinG section is ok. Sentence also looks good. I think a mention of their clothing could also be in order, related to theri love of trinkets etc. --Eyrezer 06:05, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

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Support
 * 1) Thefourdotelipsis 11:28, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) At a glance:
 * 2) * Image:DrakeHeadshot2.JPG, Image:LogaanCradleCorobb.JPG, Image:DrakeCombatFelucia.JPG, Image:DrakePraji.JPG, Image:DrakeTremayneDuel.JPG, Image:DrakeSurrounded.JPG and Image:DrakeTraining.jpg lack descriptions.
 * 3) **That's nice. I'm not nominating the images for FA, though. Thefourdotelipsis 01:27, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) ***They still have to comply with the image policy. --Imperialles 14:22, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) ****They've got descriptions. Thefourdotelipsis 22:49, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) * Antinnis Tremayne is referred to as "Treymayne" in the lead quote. Is this correct?
 * 7) **Yes. Thefourdotelipsis 01:27, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) * Punctuation is placed outside of quotation marks on several occasions.
 * 9) **Fixed. Thefourdotelipsis 01:31, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * --Imperialles 20:57, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Pointless information in the infobox. If his place of birth is unknown, it should not be included. --Imperialles 14:22, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *That was re-added by someone else. To avoid edit warring, I'd rather not remove it. Actually, I can't even remember removing it in the first place... Thefourdotelipsis 22:49, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Comment

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Support
 * 1) To continue the pattern of LucasArts flight-sim games characters. And because he's awesome. Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 19:44, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) "Your father just died, but that is a cool gift you were given in the last mission!" Thefourdotelipsis 22:46, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  Greyman ( Paratus ) 21:29, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Green Tentacle (Talk) 17:19, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) At a glance:
 * 2) * Infobox: Source everything. And provide a proper link to his droid model.
 * 3) * Introduction: Remove the whole "Marko" thing. It's both irrelevant to the introduction and pure speculation.
 * 4) * Introduction: "He often accompanied Ace Azzameen during the latter's life," Who's the latter? Only Ace has been mentioned previously to this sentence.
 * 1: Image:Marko.jpg&mdash;why is this here? It's just a random image, and does nothing to support the text.
 * 1) **Removed. Thought it provided a nice shot of MK, but it is indeed unnecessary.
 * 2) * 1.1: Two one-sentence paragraphs? Come on. At least merge the paragraphs together.
 * 3) **Addressed.
 * 4) * 1.2.1: Header: "Business" in "Family Business" needs to be decapitalized.
 * 5) **Addressed
 * 6) * 1.3: "Further developments" is a pretty awkward title. Any way to reword it?
 * 7) **That was a problem I couldn't find a solution to. Any suggestions?
 * 8) ***"Further exploits"? --Imperialles 13:14, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) * 1.3.4: "Unknown fate" sentence needs to be removed.
 * 10) * 2.1: Merge a few paragraphs together. There's some excessive linebreaks.
 * 3: What's the relevance of the quote to the section, other than the fact that the droid himself uttered it?
 * 1) **Well, it's non-canon, so it wouldn't fit elsewhere... I can remove if you don't think it's necessary.
 * 2) ***Yes, please.--Imperialles 13:14, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3: The three one-sentence paragraphs need to either be expanded enough to warrant separate paragraphs or be merged together.
 * 1) **Partly addressed. Still can't figure out the voice actor issue.
 * --Imperialles 20:48, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Addressed some of your concerns, as well as offered insight to why some are there. Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 21:35, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) From the Heavily Pounded Desk of Four Dot
 * 2) ** Obsidian is in Kuati space?
 * 3) ***Addressed. Misread my information, I guess.
 * 4) ** Might want to add a note about Complete Cross-Sections contradiction with the Tydirium thing.
 * 5) ***Footnoted.
 * 6) ** I kinda assumed that his room was aboard the Sabra and Otana judging by the composition...
 * 7) ***Others may not know, though. Not everone has played the game.
 * 8) **That's all. Thefourdotelipsis 10:45, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) ***I believe I addressed all of your concerns, 4dot. Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 16:31, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) From the  of Green Tentacle:
 * 11) * Copilot or co-pilot. I don't care, but consistency would be nice.
 * 12) **Which is more grammar-friendly?
 * 13) ***Dictionary says copilot. Green Tentacle (Talk) 16:08, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) * Family training: What ship are they in for all this stuff?
 * 15) **Addressed.
 * 16) * Either link Aeron again here or remove the link to Emon. Poor girl. :P
 * 17) **Linked.
 * 18) * New Republic era doesn't start straight after Endor does it?
 * 19) **Already removed, though I would like to know what the era from the time of the Battle of Endor to the foundation of the New Republic is.
 * 20) * Stationed aboard the Liberty, paragraph 3: Could be a little clearer what they were after.
 * 21) **You mean the warheads? Done.
 * 22) * Stationed aboard the Liberty, paragraph 4: "During his tour, the Rebellion enlisted Ace's squadron to investigate an Imperial sensor station and research facility located in Kuati space, which Ace and company made off with success." Maybe it's just me but the end of that doesn't seem to make sense.
 * 23) **Hmm. It doesn't. Fixed.
 * 24) * Stationed aboard the Liberty, paragraph 4: Source please.
 * 25) **Sourced.
 * 26) * Stationed aboard the Liberty, paragraph 7: "Ace, MK-09, and Aeron left in the Otana and rendezvoused with Aeron" Aeron rendezvoused with herself?
 * 27) **Fixed.
 * 28) * Darker times for the family, paragraph 2: "Ace finally piloted the ship close enough to get enough radio signal" Enough with the enoughs. :P
 * 29) **I too have had enough. ENOUGH.
 * 30) * Darker times for the family, paragraph 3: "The pair of ships then arrived in the proximity of the station, leaving Ace and Emkay responsible for dropping off the container close, but not too close, to the station, leaving it for the tugs to collect, and went and joined Dunari's ship in waiting for the boom." Can you break up that sentence? It goes wandering half way through.
 * 31) **Addressed
 * 32) * Alliance service, paragraph 6: "Emkay left with Ace in the Sabra, filled with a team of commandos. The team made their way to the customs station located just inside Zhar space, where they transmitted a fake manifesto of the cargo aboard the YT-2000." The Sabra isn't a YT-2000.
 * 33) **You're right. I missed that in my edit.
 * 34) * A new source of hope, paragraph 2: Remove the link to I have a bad feeling about this since it's OOU.
 * 35) **I did have a bad feeling about that.
 * 36) * Characteristics, paragraph 1: Needs a source.
 * 37) **2 for the price of one: Sourced.
 * 38) *Not so much an objection but where is the Ace's transfer to the Independence mentioned since it'd be worth mentioning in the Independence article.
 * 39) **That, GT, is mentioned at the finale of the Battle of Endor sequence, in the post-mission briefing.
 * 40) ***UPDATE: Actually, no, it is not (as you pointed out). But it is in there, in the form of a random audio cue on the concourse screen after the Battle of Endor. If you want an exact recording, I can get it for you, but that would involve extra work. ;-)
 * 41) *Green Tentacle (Talk) 22:24, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 42) **Addressed all but the first of your objections. Anything else? Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 02:49, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 43) ***Addressed all now. Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 17:02, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 44) Please source the Azzameen family affiliation in the infobox&mdash;that's the only thing I've seen wrong after reading it.  Greyman ( Paratus ) 13:51, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Comments
 * History. I didn't realize this article took so long to make. Sheesh. Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 19:44, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

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Support
 * 1) --Harrar 23:53, 17 October 2007 (GMT)
 * 2) Perhaps a pic of the Shadow Academy? Thefourdotelipsis 23:26, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)  Chack Jadson  (Talk)  23:36, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) From the tentatively pounded desk of Four Dot
 * 2) * Things like "However, there appears to be no direct evidence" do not belong. Adopt a better tone, please.
 * 3) * "almost certainly" - Weasel words. "Possibly" is better.
 * 4) *That's all. Thefourdotelipsis 11:40, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Think I've addressed all of those but act at your disgression -- Harrar 23:53, 17 October 2007 (GMT)

Comments
 * In my defence, should anyone think I deleted them, the templates at the bottom of the page were already gone when I put this nom up!Harrar 23:53, 17 October 2007 (GMT)

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Support
 * 1) --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 22:29, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) -- Livingston [[Image:Jedi Order2.jpg|25px]] ( The Force will be with you. Always. ) 00:35, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Nice work. I like. Thefourdotelipsis 01:54, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Only one thing I have a problem with after a few minor edits...
 * 2) *At the end of the article under Powers and abilities you pronounce his strength in lightsaber combat, then say that his armor was cumbersome and made him slow. This alone seems a contradiction, but then the next paragraph says that his armor was above all what made him a difficult adversary for any oponent, even though you had just finished explaining that it was due to his armor that Ulic was able to defeat him.
 * 3) **One can still be a good duelist with a cumbersome suit. Basically every suit of armour that has ever existed has been cumbersome, yet people could still be good swordsmen. "Although it granted him a great many advantages, Warb Null's cumbersome suit of armor meant his moves were slow." The armour gave off dark side energies, so to speak, which made him difficult for Jedi to fight, yet still had its disadvantages. Anyway, I've clarified it a bit. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 15:35, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) ***I completely understand what you are saying and I agree, it was mostly in the way that you were saying it and a few words you used that made it seem contradicting. The edit you did fixed it right up. :)
 * 5) * BTW: Feel free to use a word other than defeat, but murdered certainly isn't the appropriate word, as Ulic was working as a peace officer for the government, and to murder someone is to kill someone in a situation where it is against the law.
 * 6) **I know what you're saying, but I beg to differ. It doesn't really matter; defeat is fine. I'd also prefer if you would not object to something you've already fixed. Feel free to contact me on my talk page if you want to discuss this issue, but this isn't really the place. --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 15:35, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) ***Well I wasn't sure if you would be happy with "defeated" as you seemed to want to stress the fact that Ulic killed Null, and defeated doesn't automatically mean killed. I only wanted to make minor surface edits to the article as you did a terrific job on it otherwise, so I wasn't sure if you would consider that edit to be something that would change the meaning of your words, which is something I didn't want to do without your further input.
 * 8) * Livingston [[Image:Jedi Order2.jpg|25px]] ( The Force will be with you. Always. ) 14:56, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) **Thank you for your comments and input --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 15:35, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Comments

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Support
 * 1) Havac 02:24, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 17:25, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Thefourdotelipsis 02:52, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) From the unknown location of Jorrel Fraajic,
 * 2) * No mention of C-3PX?
 * 3) **Wasn't in any of his listed sources. Source me. Havac 22:07, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) ***NEGtD. Not sure where it gets its information from, though.
 * 5) * "To that end, Sienar assumed a series of false identities and took work with competing firms, moving through the management of the Corellian Engineering Corporation, Baktoid Armor Workshop, Incom Corporation, and even the Trade Federation, where he gained firsthand experience undercover, without the distraction of his family name, and picked up various techniques from his competitors." - Seems long and unwieldy. I do know what you're saying, but others may not.
 * 6) **Do not question the long sentences! I'll split it. Havac 22:07, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) * "Sienar was highly successful, however, paying minute attention to the market, closely and effectively managing his employees, and keeping his facilities small and centralized on Coruscant, where Sienar maintained an apartment in the elite 500 Republica building." - Same as the objection above.
 * 8) **Hmmm. Maybe just because I'm the crazy bastard who wrote it, but I'm not seeing too much of a problem there. I did have to stick the 500 Republica thing on there just to keep it from being a dangling fact, but I don't think the sentence suffers too much from it. Havac 22:07, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) ***Like I said, I do know what you're saying, I'm just not sure others will. But, I am appeased. Struck.
 * That looks like it to me. Good work, and a very interesting read. Jorrel [[Image:Wiki-shrinkable.png|20px]] Fraajic 15:26, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Comments

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Support
 * 1) --Eyrezer 02:00, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Thefourdotelipsis 03:09, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Comments
 * Shouldn't the appearances and sources sections list where it first appeared, where it was first mentioned and so forth? It's all in the Behind the scenes section, but it should be more clear. --LtNOWIS 05:21, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Good point. Fixed. --Eyrezer 01:57, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * A higher quality scan of the Talz village and the Imperial mines would be appreciated. --Eyrezer 20:17, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

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Support
 * 1) Ugh... Thefourdotelipsis 06:17, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) What an interesting little droid. Knock-off of Artoo.  Chack Jadson  (Talk) 23:51, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose

Comments
 * It currently has two first appearances? Did they come out at the same time or what? --Eyrezer 02:01, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * They came in the same bundle, yes. Thefourdotelipsis 04:39, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, sweet. --Eyrezer 08:22, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * 1) --Harrar 18:04, 20 October 2007 (GMT)
 * 2) The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari 14:33, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * 1) The word "murdered" is POV. I don't think Alema Rar should be listed as a commander. And finally, I think the last sentence runs on. -LtNOWIS 02:18, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) *Murdered to eliminated, Alema Rar removed as commander, last sentence reshuffled. Thanks for t'input--Harrar 12:11, 21 October 2007 (GMT)
 * 3) Not to be picky, but... I'm not so sure we can say they "eliminated Jedi Masters [plural] at Ossus" if only Kam Solusar died. -LtNOWIS 21:14, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) *Hah, you speak the truth...corrected--Harrar 00:16, 22 October 2007 (GMT)
 * 5) There is a broken reference (see the article's notes and references), and the infobox information needs to be sourced as well. Greyman ( Paratus ) 23:25, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) From the Severely Pounded Desk of Four Dot
 * 7) *"The Battle of Kashyyyk took place in 40 ABY during the Confederation-Galactic Alliance War and, on the orders of Chief of State Jacen Solo, saw the attempted subjugation and punishment of a member-world by the Galactic Alliance. " - member-world of what?
 * 8) *We need a bit more extrapolation of the duel. Actually, I'd kinda like to see it merged, but that's just personal preference. As it is, explain it in more detail, and elaborate on the fact that Luke and Ben escape, that Jacen was at his mercy, blah, blah, blah.
 * 9) *A behind the scenes section would be great, stating that Troy Denning created the battle, and it is used as the climax of Inferno.
 * 10) *All in all, good work. Thefourdotelipsis 10:48, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * Well it ain't a character! --Harrar 18:04, 20 October 2007 (GMT)

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 * --StarWarsDude 22:08, 20 October 2007 (UTC) (Vote struck per single issue voters policy.  Greyman ( Paratus ))

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 * 1) Insufficient citations (Rules 6, 11). Also, Image:Sidiouslightsaberside.jpg, Image:ST Lightsaber.jpg, and Image:Snapshot20060105004320.jpg is not properly sourced (Rule 12). -LtNOWIS 22:19, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Galleries? Lists? No. Please remove, reformat, and rewrite the lists please, so that they are prose. Thefourdotelipsis 23:22, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) No references in the infobox, and the citations are almost nonexistent elsewhere. Hobbes15 ( Tiger Headquarters ) 00:31, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Unsourced quotes and images. -- Ozzel 21:20, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * 1) Imperialles 03:30, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Nicely done.  Greyman ( Paratus ) 15:37, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) --Eyrezer 20:33, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Excellent work, sadiq. Thefourdotelipsis 11:01, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * 1) Complement to Sienar. Hopefully. Thefourdotelipsis 08:24, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * 1) I've never done a species article before...be nice. Thefourdotelipsis 07:09, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * 1) --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 07:39, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * 1) From the Maliciously Pounded Desk of Four Dot
 * 2) *Surely a better infobox image can be found. At the very least, a tighter crop and higher resolution scan of the current shot.
 * 3) **Greyman is going to get me a better scan, which I will crop. That's the best image for Stonebone as far as detail and size in concerned, at least IMHO.
 * 4) *"mosquito-like" - Eh, that's not how it's spelled IU. Msqito, my friend. Msqito.
 * 5) **It's spelled mosquito(es) in Tales of the Jedi, though I've changed it anyway.
 * 6) *"mighty" is POV.
 * 7) **Reworded.
 * 8) *Enforcer One links to a disambig page.
 * 9) **Addressed.
 * 10) *It's TOTJ. I've had enough of it!
 * 11) **Just for you, I'm doing Ood Bnar next. :) --  AdmirableAckbar  [Talk] 12:06, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, that's enough. Thefourdotelipsis 11:14, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

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