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OK, I suck at math. According to Geonosis and the Outer Rim Worlds, p. 40, the length of one day on the Forest Moon of Endor is 18 standard hours, and the length of the year is 402 standard days. So, is it possible to calculate the age of someone in standard years who is supposed to be 150 Endorian years old? The character in question is Murgoob, the Dulok oracle. He's supposed to have been in hiding for "600 seasons" in 3 ABY, when the Star Wars Ewoks cartoons take place. Based on the Ewoks cartoon, we know that the Forest Moon has four seasons, making this 150 Endorian years. How many standard years was Murgoob in hiding? ~ SavageBob 07:50, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
- Wait a second. Wouldn't it be just 402/368? You say that the length of the year is 402 standard days. Or are you referring to 402 standard Endorian days? SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 08:15, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
No, I get what you're saying now. 402 standard days would equal 402*24=9648 hours. If there are 18 hours in an Endorian day, then there are 9648/18=536 days in an Endorian year. Then the amount of standard years in an Endorian year would be 536/368=67/46, which is approximately 1.46 to two decimal places.SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 08:25, 14 March 2009 (UTC)Therefore, if Murgoob is 150 Endorian years old, then he is 150*(67/46) standard years old, which would be approximately 218.48 to two decimal places.SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 08:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)No that doesn't work out. Are you sure it's not 402 local days? SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 09:40, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Sure enough, a quick glance at the Endor article states that there are 402 local days in the local year, not 402 standard days in the local year as you said. In that case, there are 402*18=7236 standard hours in the local year, compared to 24*368=8832 standard hours in the standard year. Then the amount of standard years in an Endorian year would be 7236/8832=603/736=0.8192934783, and the amount of Endorian years in a standard year would be 8832/7236=736/603=1.220563847. That would then make Murgoob 150*(18*402)=150*7236=1085400 standard hours old which would equal 1085400/24=45225 standard days or 1085400/(24*368)=1085400/8832=122.8940217 standard years old, which cross-checks nicely back into 150 Endorian years. Hope this is what you needed.SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 09:40, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Soresu, scratch everything you just said, because the article was incorrect. I have GATORW in my lap right now, and on p. 40 it says "402 standard days" (emphasis mine), not local days. The article on here has been corrected, but this will need recalculating. Master JonathanJedi Council Chambers 20:28, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
- Here's the calculations: 150 local years multiplied by 402 standard days per local year equals 60,300 standard days, divided by 368 days per standard year equals 163.8586957 standard years, or 163 years, 316 days on the Galactic Standard Calendar. Try that. Master JonathanJedi Council Chambers 20:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
- So it was standard days after all. That makes it a lot easier to calculate. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 02:11, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
- And makes Murgoob a good 40 years older. Thanks to both of you! (The canonicity of his age is another issue, since the Star Wars Encyclopedia says he's 600 standard years old, which is a misquote of the information from the actual episode...) ~ SavageBob 06:12, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
- "Season" has more than one meaning; in contexts of age, it sometimes DOES mean "years" (I believe as a result of a contraction of a longer phrase or concept, like "600 growing seasons" or "600 harvest seasons"). So I wouldn't rule out the "600 years" interpretation, though they'd be in local years. jSarek 08:00, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
- If it is indeed 600 local years, then he would be exactly four times older than in my previous calculation, which works out to 655.4347826 standard years, or 655 years, 160 days. Master JonathanJedi Council Chambers 18:38, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
- "Season" has more than one meaning; in contexts of age, it sometimes DOES mean "years" (I believe as a result of a contraction of a longer phrase or concept, like "600 growing seasons" or "600 harvest seasons"). So I wouldn't rule out the "600 years" interpretation, though they'd be in local years. jSarek 08:00, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
- And makes Murgoob a good 40 years older. Thanks to both of you! (The canonicity of his age is another issue, since the Star Wars Encyclopedia says he's 600 standard years old, which is a misquote of the information from the actual episode...) ~ SavageBob 06:12, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
- So it was standard days after all. That makes it a lot easier to calculate. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 02:11, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
I've updated the article with this information. Thanks again to everyone! Check it out here: Murgoob. ~ SavageBob 01:35, 16 March 2009 (UTC)