This page is an archive of a community-wide discussion. This page is no longer live. Further comments or questions on this topic should be made in a new Knowledge Bank page rather than here so that this page is preserved as a historic record. Graestan(Talk) 01:38, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Okay after reading the other topic on Jedi marriage i have a couple of questions of my own. Now if Jedi were not allowed to marry then (and I'm kinda assuming here) wouldn't Jedi not reproduce? I thought that two force sensitive people having a child would give the child a greater chance of being force sensitive. I understand that normal people can have a force sensitive child but that seems a lot less likely. Take Anakin Skywalkers bloodline, almost his entire family tree is composed of force sensitive people. That shows that the force is somehow related to a persons genes. Also if Jedi were not allowed to produce wouldn't that mean the end of that Jedi's bloodline? And wouldn't this process over many thousands of years destroy the force sensitive genes making force sensitive people harder to come by? So basically my question are Were Jedi allowed to reproduce to keep their bloodline going and why wouldn't the Jedi want to create more Jedi instead of hunting around the galaxy for them? MattChicagoBears 20:58, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
- Your logic is sound, from a genetic and ecological perspective (genes that don't reproduce get gradually phased out of a population). But The Force was never established as being genetic (or purely genetic) except for the correlation you get from looking at the Skywalker bloodline (or other bloodlines, like the Halcyon line). But there's the distinct possibility that The Living Force, in all its wisdom, simply grants powers to those whom it chooses, making it APPEAR random but in fact be the Will of The Force (note the capitals). Plus, note that other bloodlines seem to not pass on Force sensitivity at all (look at how many children Ki-Adi-Mundi had, and none of them became Jedi). And if you think about it, maybe it was the goal of the post-Ruusan Old Jedi Order to try and reduce the amount of Force Sensitives in the Galaxy. Maybe they understood any genetic aspects of Force powers and decided that, by limiting Jedi reproduction, you eliminate the risk of someone going to the Dark Side due to the parent-child or sibling attachments, all the while decreasing the risk of a random Jedi going dark due to large sample size and statistics (if 1 in 5,000 Jedi fall, then there will be fewer Fallen Jedi in a population of 2,000 then a population of 10,000. That's all speculation, but the Jedi Council is wise; it isn't past them to draw conclusions like that. Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith 22:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
- You forget that you don't have to married to have children. Although the Old Jedi Order did prohibit marriage, as far as we know, it did not require the Jedi to be abstinent. IFYLOFD (And now, young Skywalker, you will die.) 00:42, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
- I would think that sexual contact would have been forbidden as well since it can easily form attachments, which are forbidden. Since the Jedi of the prequel era are so uptight about it that they even go so far as to prohibit romantic relationships of any kind, I would think that sex would have been out of the question as well. Anything that can potentially lead to the dark side is forbidden, and a loose lifestyle can certainly do just that. 71.61.97.8 01:51, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, George Lucas once said that Jedi are allowed to have sex: "Jedi Knights aren't celibate - the thing that is forbidden is attachments - and possessive relationships" [1]. So the Jedi can have sex if they want to72.79.223.218 02:53, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
- Well, by the time of the prequels, the Council didn't want Jedi bloodlines. Sure the Koons and the Diaths were known for having a large number of family members in the Order, but it wasnt like the Jedi had farms where Jedi would get impregnated just to have more Jedi. Thats why the Acquisitions Department went out and searched the galaxy for orphans or just regular children to absorb into the Order. Purpilia 04:12, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think that what Lucas meant by that was that the Jedi are not forbidden these things because of some desire for celibacy in the Order, but rather simply to avoid attachment. Otherwise, Anakin would not have had to hide the fact that he had impregnated Padme from the Council. (He'd still have to keep his marriage to her a secret; and the Council would have to keep a lid on the news of her pregnancy so as not to get her into trouble with the Senate, as she said; but things would have been a lot easier on the two of them had they been able to confide in one party instead of hiding it from both.) And as I said, I would think that casual sex would be viewed as an easy way to corrupt a Jedi's character and make him very egotistical, as it often does in real life, thus presenting a possibly enormous danger of falling to the dark side. So in summary, I believe that Lucas meant that the Jedi are not forbidden pairings of any kind because they believe in celibacy, but simply to avoid the pitfalls of attachment and egotism. 71.61.97.8 21:20, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
- Also, I just got a lovely mental picture of a mass Jedi orgy in the Temple. Thanks, guys. 71.61.97.8 21:20, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
- Well, by the time of the prequels, the Council didn't want Jedi bloodlines. Sure the Koons and the Diaths were known for having a large number of family members in the Order, but it wasnt like the Jedi had farms where Jedi would get impregnated just to have more Jedi. Thats why the Acquisitions Department went out and searched the galaxy for orphans or just regular children to absorb into the Order. Purpilia 04:12, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, George Lucas once said that Jedi are allowed to have sex: "Jedi Knights aren't celibate - the thing that is forbidden is attachments - and possessive relationships" [1]. So the Jedi can have sex if they want to72.79.223.218 02:53, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
- I would think that sexual contact would have been forbidden as well since it can easily form attachments, which are forbidden. Since the Jedi of the prequel era are so uptight about it that they even go so far as to prohibit romantic relationships of any kind, I would think that sex would have been out of the question as well. Anything that can potentially lead to the dark side is forbidden, and a loose lifestyle can certainly do just that. 71.61.97.8 01:51, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
- You forget that you don't have to married to have children. Although the Old Jedi Order did prohibit marriage, as far as we know, it did not require the Jedi to be abstinent. IFYLOFD (And now, young Skywalker, you will die.) 00:42, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
