Forums > Knowledge Bank > KB:Thrawn: Treason a few weeks post Alliances?

Alright, so, according to a currently unsourced statement on the Thrawn: Treason page, the novel is set only a few weeks after Thrawn: Alliances.

This doesn’t make sense.

We know that the mission to the Lothal Jedi Temple onwards takes place in 0 BBY. Therefore, Thrawn bring off Lothal in Treason is also in 0 BBY, as it is set during that part of Rebels.

Elsewhere, the events of Alliances is around 2 BBY or 1 BBY. This is the issue.

The novel cannot be set a few weeks after Alliances while also saying that the later part of Rebels Season 4, and therefore Treason, is in the next year.

So, now what do we do? I suppose we could say that the mission to Tatooine and Battle of Atollon is 2 BBY - 1 BBY on their pages as a form of damage control? As those events being there could push Alliances a bit further? As far as I know, no source fully placed this two events into 2 BBY.--Editoronthewiki (talk) 05:38, September 1, 2019 (UTC)

  • It comes directly from the book 'Thrawn had done this same trick once before, just a few short weeks ago. Then, in deference to Lord Vader’s desire for privacy—as well as the fact that Vader could probably kill everyone aboard the Chimaera without batting whatever soulless eyes were hidden behind that mask—Thrawn had sent Faro and everyone else off the bridge.' --Lewisr (talk) 12:28, September 1, 2019 (UTC)
  • There's also "[Faro] should have been called back to Coruscant the minute the Chimaera returned from Batuu and the Grysk mission and put into pre-command orientation. On the other hand, the summons was only a few weeks late." (Ch. 4, p. 53) Toqgers (talk) 13:03, September 1, 2019 (UTC)
  • But I definitely agree the three weeks between Alliances and Treason throws the timeline a bit out of wack. We know "Secret Cargo" is 2 BBY and we know "A World Between Worlds" and by extension the episodes that are set in the few days before it are 0 BBY. We don't know how long after Atollon Alliances is definitively, but lines like Thrawn's "The rebels who escaped Atollon must be tracked down and eliminated before they can regroup and join with other cells." suggests its very recent. And Alliances covers roughly a week itself, so we've got maybe a month between "Zero Hour" and when Treason begins shortly after "Rebel Assault." Even if you assume Season 4 is beginning of 0 BBY, "Zero Hour" is maybe the tail end of 1 BBY and "Secret Cargo" the end of 2 BBY, a nearly one year gap between those two episodes (only "Twin Suns" in between) is just..... bizarre, if you ask me. Technically not irreconicilable but doesn't really make sense. At any rate, as for Alliances, I think the best we can date it stating it's some time between 0 and 1 BBY. That can be directly supported by sources, though which of the two years it is cannot be definitively determined (yet, I hope). Toqgers (talk) 13:05, September 1, 2019 (UTC)
    • So we should set Twin Suns and Zero Hour to be 1-2 BBY, like we do with Alliances related pages?--Editoronthewiki (talk) 17:58, September 1, 2019 (UTC)
      • I mean unless we can put together a good reference note for these dates, I'd avoid putting specific dates down. Has the gap between "Zero Hour" and Star Wars Rebels: Heroes of Mandalore be stated anywhere? --Lewisr (talk) 18:17, September 1, 2019 (UTC)
        • Well we know Secret Cargo is 2 BBY and Heroes of Mandalore is around 1 BBY thanks to Bo-Katan Kryze’s character model update. So Twins Suns and Zero Hour have to be between those dates.--Editoronthewiki (talk) 18:21, September 1, 2019 (UTC)
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