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Recently, we've made great progress in regard to accessibility, may it be new tutorials for new editors or providing a safer and nicer environnement for current or returning editors. However, there is still space for progress, and that is why I would like to propose something.

One thing I fell concerned about is the continuity of the chain of information. We have a certain way to treat some peculiar piece of content (The Old Republic, Galaxy of Heroes, Fantasy Flight Games, themed entertainment, etc.), supported by policies voted by the community. However, for any junior editor, accessing the consensus reached can be a hassle, and that's only if they knew what to look for in the first place... I'm sure we can all relate to this at some point of our editing career. Even senior editors can have trouble finding back those pesky Consensus Tracks/Mofferences if they did not have a link saved somewhere on a workbench, as not all have a nice policy page (not throwing shade at FFG ^^).

What I'm proposing is the creation of a new talkpage header template ({ConsensusTalk} maybe ?), to be featured on top of talk pages of the principal pieces of OOU media related to a content policy. We recently created {{ImageVote}} per a similar logical.

For example: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes is subjected to a community consensus reached during the Wookieepedia:Mofferences/January 6, 2019. Nowhere does the talk page features that information in a clear way (in fact, in any way at all), and you can't find it anywhere else on the site, except for the Mofference page. However, with a new talk page header, this would be way more accessible. Personally, since I don't have a regular use for it and haven't added it to a workbench, whenever I need to take a look at that consensus, I have to go back to my own talk page for a message left by Imperators last year and where the link to the Mofference is located... Not really practical.

I expect that such a header will be useful in a nearby future, when a CT will bring closure to the Encounters duology affair.

I also propose that for WookieeProjects subjected to wide consensus, such as SWTOR and FFG, links to the consensus could be added to the WookieeProject notices. In that regard, I'm looking forward to Fan26 and Erebus opinion on the matter. --NanoLuukeCloning facility 15:21, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Discussions[]

Media page concensus notice[]

Good ideas both, Nano. The thing I'm wondering about, though, is how generic can the generic talk page template you're talking about there be made. Imperators II(Talk) 15:35, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

  • Something in the line of (highly prototypal):

    This media article have been subjected to a consensus.
    NAMESPACE and its content were subjected to a vote, and community consensus was reached as to how Wookieepedia should handle {{{1}}}. You can find the relevant discussion(s) {{{2}}}. Editors are expected to follow the consensus decision(s).

    With the parameter 1 for a little description of the problematic that required a consensus vote in the first place and parameter 2 for link to the CT/Mofference(s), allowing for several links (formatting to editor discretion). So, to reuse my previous example:

    Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes and its content were subjected to a vote, and community consensus was reached as to how Wookieepedia should handle {{{1=the game featuring characters from different continuities}}}. You can find the relevant discussion(s) {{{2=here}}}. Editors are expected to follow the consensus decision(s).

    With SWTOR, let's imagine we link all CT (not necessary, as not it depends on which expansion we're talking about, but we can do a "one size fit all"):

    Star Wars: The Old Republic and its content were subjected to a vote, and community consensus was reached as to how Wookieepedia should handle {{{1=the various choices offered to the players}}}. You can find the relevant discussion(s) {{{2=here, here and here}}}. Editors are expected to follow the consensus decision(s).
    --NanoLuukeCloning facility 17:22, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

WookieProjects header update[]

So, as I see it, after the end of the eventual CT vote, you would like for me to link said CT in {{WPFFGTALK}} so people can access it, correct? Erebus Chronus (Talk) 14:20, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

  • I don't know anything about a new CT vote. I'm talking about the current FFG canon policy. The same thing could be done with WP:GE's {{WGEtalk}} and the themed entertainment canon policy too (and I'm not even seeing it linked on WP:GE page by the way). --NanoLuukeCloning facility 16:43, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
    • Oh, so I was confused entirely, then, and I think I understand now. Since a policy exists for the media and pages that fall under Fantasy Flight Games' scopes, it should probably be linked to in the talk page header for the project? Hopefully, that's what you're implying and I'm not just being oblivious. Erebus Chronus (Talk) 18:16, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
      • Precisely, Erebus. If the things related to the project are governed by any specific policy, let any editor seeing the template know about it. Imperators II(Talk) 19:21, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
        • Alright then. I can add a link to the FFG policy when I'm able to. Erebus Chronus (Talk) 19:37, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
  • I think this might work better separate from the WPtalk templates, as not everything affected by a consensus vote is going to be under a WP. It also starts to bloat the WPtalk templates, in my opinion, as seen on the new {{WGEtalk}}. MasterFredCommerce Guild.svg(talk) 23:43, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
    • The Consensus talkheader is meant for media article only (for the moment), having the policy linked to WPTalk header can help spread that information. However, you added this to {{WGEtalk}}:

      "Be advised that many articles within the project's scope are affected by the themed entertainment policy, which was enacted via community consensus. Relevant discussions can be found here and here. Editors are expected to adhere to consensus."

      This is very close to what should be in the Concensus header, and I think you can cut it to the minimum on WPtalk headers:

      "Be advised that many articles within the project's scope are affected by the themed entertainment policy."

      This way, it's not as "bloated". --NanoLuukeCloning facility 09:46, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
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