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*In many ways, I think that these sorts of Jedi, when they are able to resist the lure of the Dark Side, are beyond the "normal" Jedi, because it shows that they can form attachments and still remain true to the Jedi ways of life. You can't simply say they aren't real Jedi, because if you did, you would also have to discount MANY of the most important figures in Jedi history. Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi, along with Luke Skywalker himself were all guilty of this, does it make them less Jedi? Qui-Gon in particular is an interesting case because although his relationship with Tahl was not known to the Council, he was very much considered a rule breaker in the sense that he frequently disobeyed the council and violated the Jedi Code. Even so, I can't recall any of them ever saying they considered him "less" Jedi. |
*In many ways, I think that these sorts of Jedi, when they are able to resist the lure of the Dark Side, are beyond the "normal" Jedi, because it shows that they can form attachments and still remain true to the Jedi ways of life. You can't simply say they aren't real Jedi, because if you did, you would also have to discount MANY of the most important figures in Jedi history. Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi, along with Luke Skywalker himself were all guilty of this, does it make them less Jedi? Qui-Gon in particular is an interesting case because although his relationship with Tahl was not known to the Council, he was very much considered a rule breaker in the sense that he frequently disobeyed the council and violated the Jedi Code. Even so, I can't recall any of them ever saying they considered him "less" Jedi. |
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| + | **The Jedi Wanderers were known for not giving a damn about the usual Jedi regulations if this was the Will of the Force, but I don't know if the Jedi master in question belonged to that category. Heck, even the Council probably wouldn't have stood in the way if the Will of the Force demanded these students be except from the rules. [[User:DarthMRN|DarthMRN]] 10:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC) |
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Template:Kbtop One thing I have been wondering about recently is wether or not the Jedi that Djinn Altis trained can be considered legitimate Jedi.
What I mean is, Altis was a maverick, and he essentially violated the Jedi code by having multiple adult padawans, allowing them get romantically involved, and teaching them techniques the Jedi Order wouldn't have approved of, and the Jedi Council probably never sanctioned/authorized/approved of those padawans being trained in the first place, so they were likely never formally initiated into the Jedi Order...
So can the Jedi trained by Altis be thought of as actual Jedi? Did the Jedi Council acknowledge Altis' students as real Jedi, or did the council view them as nothing more than unsanctioned, illegitimate pseudo-Jedi? That's just something i've been wondering. 70.17.135.80 03:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- That's hard to answer. These students trained like real jedi, thought like real jedi, and, most of the time acted like real Jedi. The only difference is they could have relationships, learned how to live on through the force, and could be taken on as a Jedi at a later age. The Jedi of old didn't do these things, but the New Jedi Order does. To the council, no, they probably weren't real Jedi, but in a larger view, they really were.JR 21:18, 1 November 2007 (UTC)StarNinja99
- In many ways, I think that these sorts of Jedi, when they are able to resist the lure of the Dark Side, are beyond the "normal" Jedi, because it shows that they can form attachments and still remain true to the Jedi ways of life. You can't simply say they aren't real Jedi, because if you did, you would also have to discount MANY of the most important figures in Jedi history. Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi, along with Luke Skywalker himself were all guilty of this, does it make them less Jedi? Qui-Gon in particular is an interesting case because although his relationship with Tahl was not known to the Council, he was very much considered a rule breaker in the sense that he frequently disobeyed the council and violated the Jedi Code. Even so, I can't recall any of them ever saying they considered him "less" Jedi.
- The Jedi Wanderers were known for not giving a damn about the usual Jedi regulations if this was the Will of the Force, but I don't know if the Jedi master in question belonged to that category. Heck, even the Council probably wouldn't have stood in the way if the Will of the Force demanded these students be except from the rules. DarthMRN 10:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)