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Thrantas Edit

I have reverted to include Thrantas in the list of major species. They are a sentient species and were only beginning to be exported off world close to the destruction of Alderaan. --SparqMan 19:38, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Their article says they are creatures, not sentient beings like Humans or Kaminoans... what is your source? Do they speak or anything? – Aidje talk 19:52, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
  • I'm fairly certain that The Wildlife of Star Wars outlines their communication methods. I would put them on par with dolphins. Regardless, the box should include major species, not only major sentient species. --SparqMan 19:58, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Dolphins? This isn't HHGTTG... You may be right about what should be included. I don't know. – Aidje talk 20:01, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
      • Dolphins are generally considered sapient within the scientific community, as proven by their completion of the Mirror test--Eion 17:04, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Geography Edit

Hm, we seem to have made a very similar mistake in Alderaan's geography as Saxton discusses here [[1]]. Alderaan in A New Hope is nowhere near as vegetative as our picture or description would suggest. What is the source of the image? --Fade 23:25, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • The Alderaan shown in ROTS is fairly green. ANH shows Alderaan from a greater distance. The cloud cover looks thicker there than in the images in ROTS. --SparqMan 00:05, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Is there an orbital shot in ROTS? I only remember the surface shots. --Fade 00:11, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Well, found one on the Net, but there still seems to be more large sealike bodies than just "ice rimmed polar seas" as mentioned in the article --Fade 00:14, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Compare the two. I'm sure they dont look too different. -- Riffsyphon1024 03:23, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Alderaan

Before...

DestructionOfAlderaan-ANH

and After

  • Well, it's just that there is more sea than described in the article (even on the ROTS one) --Fade 08:28, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Maybe Global Warming? You know the death ray finished the job :D -- Riffsyphon1024 08:30, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • I'm afraid I see a lot more water than just "ice-rimmed polar seas". Even WITH global warming. QuentinGeorge 08:33, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • Oh, good, so I'm not insane. --Fade 08:40, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Alderaan2

Closer view before destruction

Here's a closer view to inspect, care of SWTC. -- Riffsyphon1024 08:42, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • Even the ROTS picture shows a fair bit of water. There's too much cloud-cover on the ANH one to see any land, properly, however. QuentinGeorge 08:45, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • As I refered to images of the surface in Episode III, I noted mostly mountains with snow. -- Riffsyphon1024 08:50, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • Well, images of the surface aren't entirely reliable, since they (comparatively) have to show The Alps of an entire planet, rather than every variation in terrain. That is, if we're not talking orbital shots. --Fade 08:52, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • These two shots may be from different hemispheres, just an fyi.--Eion 17:06, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Ok, I'm going to forget what the EU says and go with the films here. There's definately more sea than what's described in the article, and even more than that if the ANH shot does happen to be a different hemisphere --Fade 11:45, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Come on guys, you can't tell enough from those pictures to tell one way or another. All I can see is green, blue, and white. You're not going to be able to see a giant mountain range in that far away of a picture, and you aren't seriously going to think that Alderaan is extremely mountainous just because of what was seen in one tiny scene in the movie are you? Bob rulz 12:04, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • And as said before, it could be a different view of the planet. Earth doesn't have two symmetrical hemispheres, so why are people assuming one image of Alderaan must be indicative of the entire planet? - Kwenn 18:04, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Alderaan was attacked and heavily-damaged during the Clone Wars. that could explain the differences -SWF

  • That's true. The Essential Guide to Planet and Moons cites the devastation of the Clone Wars as why the planet adopted such extreme pacifisim. However, it also shows Alderaan having more landmasses than in ANH. :/Cyril 22:38, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Who said the views were of the same side of the planet? It could have a huge ocean on one side (Like our own Pacific ocean) and have most of its landmass on the other.The Clone Wars comment doesn't work because the pics we have are from ROTS; after it was attacked. the others are from ANH.

--Logan Felipe 02:50, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

i think there was just an Artwork error, or it was shot maybe from the other side of the planet. Unsigned comment by Daniel T. Goggle Bird (talk • contribs).

  • This conversation is from 2007. Please do not ressurect conversations that are that old for arhival reasons. Thanks. 00:18, December 3, 2012 (UTC)

HistoryEdit

Why have entire paragraphs in the History section been deleted?

Huge contradictionEdit

So...Alderaan has big oceans -- then -- Alderaan has no major oceans. The EU is absolutely out of control or the authors are not getting something. I suspect the former. And of course, Lucas' vision is completely different as always.--Anon

  • Yep! It seems as if this article has not been updated since we finally saw the planet in Ep. III. It is a completely different world than described in the not-so-famous "Illustrated Guide" which described Alderaan as a planet without mountains and large oceans. If we assume, that the city seen in the end of Ep. III IS the capital of Alderaan the EU-informations are outdated and should be replaced. The capital does lie in a high mountain range and NOT on an island.--Anon
    • Right, but you said it yourself ... "IF we assume". Granted, Lucas likely intended this to be the capital, but I know of no concrete fact that proves that's what it is. It may be Bail's vacation home or something. Thus the EU could still fit.--Valin Kenobi 03:55, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Alderaan was attackedEdit

there are several sources that say that Alderaan was directly attacked by the CIS during the Clone Wars, the novelization was a source. Obsession mentions that the CIS at least harassed shipping to the planet. -SWF

Diameter Edit

Only 5.500 km??? How can be so small? It is impossible, its inhabitants wouldn't be able to support other planet's higher gravitational forces, and we have seen them (Leia and Bail Organa for example) in many other different worlds.

It's listed at 12,500 km in Coruscant and the Core Worlds. Further, it's also listed as having standard gravity. Is there any source that contradicts this, before I change those two items? Vryce 10:07, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

  • There are a set of vandals (or maybe it's the same person), who for some reason like to repeatedly change planetary data. This guy seems to have been the culprit this time. I'd suggest checking the other stuff he changed too. - Lord Hydronium 10:12, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
  • I don't have The Secrets of Tatooine supplement so I've no idea if what he added to the other one is correct or not. Vryce 10:41, 18 February 2007 (UTC)


  • A small planet is very easy to destroy! A diameter of 5500 km and 40% of standard gravity is correct. Unsigned comment by 83.135.167.207 (talk • contribs).
    • Um...based on what, exactly? (That was my polite way of saying "vandals are lame.") Gonk 21:30, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
      • Alderaan is not the Earth! The diameter of 12500 km agitates from the comparison with the earth, and is essentially wrong.
        Alderaan is many smaller than the Earth (12756 km) and Coruscant (12240 km).
        Unsigned comment by 83.135.167.207 (talk • contribs).
        • It may not be astronomically accurate, but it's what the book says. Show us a source that agrees with you. Gonk 22:13, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Cool a planet can double in gravity and size in seconds. Amazing! Derek Yoda's friend 23:22, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
  • But I must warn IP users you can not make something up out of the blue, so if you can source something Wookieepedia will accept it, if the source is canon, altough it may seem likely that it was small, its fanon if you made it up yourself, without filling out all the paperwork for Lucas Arts, and somebody else has done that, and unless GL or Lucas Arts decides to call that sourcebook fanon the diameter and gravity remain the way they are. Derek Yoda's friend 22:30, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Government Edit

Which one exactly is the government of Alderaan: the High Council or the High Court? Jedi Wolf 2:34, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

There are never any kings? I always assumed Bail Organa was king of Alderaan but I guess not. --Jaguartalon 09:30, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Alderaanian military? Edit

I'm unsure where else I'd have a chance of getting to the bottom of this, it has bothered me endlessly.

The soldiers seen at the beginning of A New Hope battling the Stormtroopers on-board the Tantive IV, with their stylish helmets and blue uniforms, are mostly used as the basis for Rebel Troopers (since they are also seen at the Massassi base on Yavin 4 later in the same film)

My question is this, that if Leia Organa was, as she said, on a "Diplomatic Mission to Alderaan for the Imperial Senate" (she wasn't, obviously, but it was still the cover-story she gave directly to Darth Vader), why would soldiers in Rebel uniforms be aboard an Imperial/Alderaanian vessel, since Captain Antilles is wearing the same kind of helmet. Not a very clever disguise, I might say.

I'd just like to know where the uniform is originating from, In-Universe.

- Signed "HellbirdIV"

"Alderaanian" redirect Edit

Why does Alderaanian redirect to this page? Like Corellian, it's notable enough to be its own page. There is little in this article that even discusses the Alderaanian people. I regret to say that I don't know how to change a redirected page, so I cannot fix this. But it needs to be done. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:56, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Quote Edit

Why is the quote on the top sourced to some comic book, when it comes straight out of the A New Hope radio drama? --Steve 13:23, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

  • I was curious about that myself. - Esjs(Talk) 22:36, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

MoonEdit

The Essential Atlas says Alderaan has a moon that continued to orbit the remains of the graveyard. Wondering if this conflicts with other sources. Suikoman444 00:56, 26 August 2009 (UTC) I think the moon is existent but is quite smallShellpaw (talk) 04:38, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

Which is right? Edit

The page says that Alderaan's days are 24 standard hours but the The Essential Atlas says that its days are 23 standard hours. That would also affect the number of standard day in a Orbital period I belive. --Jared Waymen 21:08, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

After everyone died, there was no one to take the throne Edit

I think that's kind of obvious. Why do we have that in there? (Under "Queens" section).—B-Boba Fett! He'll kill us all! Jaster's Feather 15:09, October 25, 2009 (UTC)


Unarmed and peaceful? Edit

At the very beginning of this article, Alderaan is described as an "unarmed and peaceful planet". Is there a source for this, other than Princess Leia's desperate claim in A New Hope? The article, after all, goes on to say in the Alderaan/Legends#Galactic_Civil_War' section how

Alderaan eventually became a safe haven for rebellious elements who wished to fight the growing oppression of the Empire,
which helped bring on the planet's very downfall.

which could be seen as making it non-peaceful, and it also claims in the Alderaan/Legends#Destruction_of_Alderaan that

While [Leia] claimed the planet was weaponless, it is said it had some of the strongest defenses in the Empire.

which would suggest it was not unarmed. Also on Wookiepedia, at Destruction_of_Alderaan#Behind_the_scenes, it is told that later versions of the films have shown Alderaan to have what appears to be a planetary shield of some sort, which could also be seen as contradicting claims that the planet was unarmed.

Of course, in the end, words are up against words when it comes to what Alderaan's defenses were like, and one can debate what is meant by the words "unarmed" and "peaceful", but I feel that unless there's a proper source showing that Alderaan was clearly both of those things, I don't think it should be described as such in the introduction to this article. --Tesseraktik 21:30, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

  • Also, since it seems to be a major source in the discussion of Alderaan's to-be-or-not-to-be-armed:
This article attributes the line "The defense system on Alderaan, despite the Senators protestations to the contrary, were as strong as any in the Empire." to Grand Moff Tarkin, citing Star_Wars_Episode_IV:_A_New_Hope_(novel).
However, the Destruction_of_Alderaan article attributes the line "The defense systems on Alderaan, despite the Senator's protestations to the contrary, were as strong as any in the Empire. I should conclude that our demonstration was as impressive as it was thorough." to Darth Vader, citing the same source.
Does anybody know who it was? Did they both say that in the same novel? --Tesseraktik 21:30, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Government? Edit

I am going to try and clean up the government section, and some of the history section, to reflect the new information from the Old Republic game. Now I know it is listed as Democracy in the Atlas, but have there been any sources that actually shows that the people of Alderaan have any role in electing their government? It looks more like other SW planets where all of the power lies with Noble Houses or King/Queen (thankfully, :) ).--Darthscott3457 18:05, February 8, 2012 (UTC)


Nova does not mean explode Edit

At the end of a paragraph in the section "Destruction of Alderaan" it is said the the planet is caused to 'nova'. According to Google, "nova" means: "A star showing a sudden large increase in brightness and then slowly returning to its original state over a few months." Alderaan is not a star, and while it did glow brightly, it certainly did not return to it's original state. Can someone with the authority please edit it to say 'explode'? RobinSong 17:02, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Naming of "Alderaan" Edit

Hey mah fellow Wookies. Is there any indication of the real-universe etymology of the in-universe planet/star system Alderaan in any of the Behind the Scenes literature and if the name has anything to do with the actual star group Alderaan (directly or indirectly)?

I got interested in this when I learned there was a star named Aldebaran whose Wikipedia page linked, to my surprise, to an actual, little-known group of stars in Canis Minor named Alderaan. ("Alderaan" does sound Arabic once you think about it.)

There actually was a brief discussion on this very topic on the Derkeiler newsgroups back in 2006, though I don't believe there ever was a consensus reached. Does anyone know of a good source that might clarify this?

–– RookieCortex 19:45, May 13, 2012 (UTC)

Moon of Alderaan Edit

If Alderaan had a moon, and it survived the explosion... then wouldn't it become a planet? Anymore info on this moon? StarsiderSWG (talk) 00:48, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think so, probably would end up being space debris or got destroyed along with the rest of the planet.--Gunman6 (talk) 20:58, November 3, 2013 (UTC)


Page image source? Edit

Just wondering if that's a screen capture from Revenge of the Sith, A New Hope or one of the spin-off sources?--Gunman6 (talk) 20:58, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

Must note, this topic is rather old, but it appears from the license box on the file page that it is a screenshot from Star Wars - Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, and cites an additional source as The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia. —User:Jak Himself (talk) 20:26, December 10, 2013 (UTC)
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