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Female?[]

Hi, I was reading the story, but I couldn't find the point it mentions that she's female, I might be too blind, but I read the story three times, could someone point me to where it says that--201.142.240.228 04:29, October 13, 2017 (UTC)

  • I still haven't read this story, once I do, I'll let you know if the gender is mentioned--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 20:49, October 13, 2017 (UTC)
    • I see you went ahead and deleted the info, I couldn't find the if the office is female, you may want to ask to use that created the articleDarthRuiz30 (talk) 08:09, October 14, 2017 (UTC)
  • Well, for one, the last sentence refers to Arvira as "she". For those of you for which English is not your first language, which I have it on good authority some of you are, that is a female pronoun. Arvira also happens to be the only female character seen or referenced in the story, so she's the only one referred to with female pronouns – she, her, hers – as an example. I hope that helps make things clearer for you. Cheers, SilverSunbird (talk) 23:46, October 14, 2017 (UTC)
    • I don't recall seeing anything like that, and there definitely isn't anything like that in the last sentence --Lewisr (talk) 23:50, October 14, 2017 (UTC)
      • Are you sure the last sentence includes a she? Same as Lewis I can't find any her, she and her--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 23:51, October 14, 2017 (UTC)
        • 'I waved for him to go and returned to my endless datawork, glad to have laid down another strand in my invisible web of influence.' I don't see anything in there that refers to a she --Lewisr (talk) 23:58, October 14, 2017 (UTC)
          • Got the same, that's why I told 201.142.240.228 that I couldn't find if the officer was female. --DarthRuiz30 (talk) 00:05, October 15, 2017 (UTC)
            • I did a search for things like her, hers and she and cannot find anything in the story --Lewisr (talk) 00:08, October 15, 2017 (UTC)
              • Then, I'm glad my english didn't fail me. I've re-read the story and still nothing.--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 00:10, October 15, 2017 (UTC)
            • I must've misremembered the story, then. We could always just ask the author himself what Arvira's gender is. SilverSunbird (talk) 00:40, October 15, 2017 (UTC)
              • Given that the story is written in the first person, I don't see how there could be a female pronoun referring to the narrator. If anything, Arvira says that some refer to him/her as a "datawork wizard". As far as I know, "wizard" is an exclusively masculine word. --Lelal Mekha (Audience Room) 06:22, October 15, 2017 (UTC)
                • That might've been the case in the past, but I've seen and read plenty of stuff created in the last few decades where "wizard" is used to refer to both male and female individuals. So that doesn't exactly narrow it down.SilverSunbird (talk) 04:35, October 20, 2017 (UTC)
                  • In the Audiobook, Arvira has a female voice. Bodo-Baas (talk) 17:01, December 8, 2017 (UTC)
                  • Also, in the recent Mexican Spanish translation, Arvira is treated as female.Bodo-Baas (talk) 23:18, August 12, 2018 (UTC)