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Should the long-term siege of Yavin be written about as a separate battle? VT-16 20:44, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

  • Sounds like a good idea, "Siege of Yavin" even sounds like a good title for it. jSarek 10:29, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)
  • How about if we rename this page First Battle of Yavin (Galactic Civil War). Then, we'll rename the First Battle of Yavin Base: Second Battle of Yavin (Galactic Civil War). Many battles took place on Yavin including during the Great Sith War: Battle of Yavin (Great Sith War, We already have the Battle of the Jedi Praxeum as well. MyNz 17:57, 25 Oct 2005 (UTC)
  • Well technically all of those you just mentioned take place on Yavin 4, the more-prominent fourth moon of Yavin. So, since this battle takes place above the uninhabitable gas planet of Yavin, and all of those take place on Yavin 4, there's really no need for all of that; and if we're going to be more specific for First Battle of Yavin Base, then it should be First Battle of Yavin 4 or something along those lines. MarcK 05:36, 25 Oct 2005 (UTC)

An Important Question Edit

Why did the Death Star have to move into range of Yavin 4. Why didn't the Empire just fire the superlaser and destroy the main planet in the Yavin system (which I belive is called Yavin) in order to have a clean shot at Yavin 4? I have I few thoughts on why-

-Yavin is a Gas Giant. Destroying it would cause a massive explosion that would possibly have destroyed everything in orbit around the planet, including the Death Star.

-If Yavin is destroyed the remainding debris would possibly block-out Yavin 4, thus rendering a shot at the planet near impossible.

-Destroying Yavin in order to get a clean shot at Yavin 4 is way too easy, and the Empire wants to mock the rebels as to how powerful the station truly is by giving them the chance to fail.

-Destroying Yavin in order to get a clean shot at Yavin 4 is completly unnecessary.

-There was something on Yavin that was of interest to the Empire/Emperor.

-If the Empire was to have fired the superlaser at Yavin, it would have taken way too much time to 'reload' for another shot at Yavin 4.

-The Empire didn't think of this idea.

-It's just a movie.

That's all my ideas. If you have any ideas as to why the Empire did what they did, or if you know exactly why, please post it here.--Maceo 13:33, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

"It's Impossible, even for a computer"Edit

Before the battle, one of the pilots didn't believe they can't win, until Luke told him otherwise. Who was that pilot, was he Wedge Antilles?

  • Definitely not Wedge, had to be some other pilot with an anonymous name, unless we already have that name down. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 20:02, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)
  • It was scripted as Wedge, but the actor was not Denis Lawson - that's why the character is often referred to by fans as Fake Wedge. QuentinGeorge 11:49, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Okay, seated next to Luke Skywalker is Wedge Antilles, according to the script. However, that isn't actor Dennis Lawson, who would play Wedge in the cockpit scenes later on the film. It appears to be Jack Klaff, who is listed in the credits as John D. All published reports state that it is Wedge who utters the line in this scene, so it is generally accepted that the character seated next to Luke is Wedge, even though the actor is the guy who's supposed to play John D. Confounding matters even more is that Klaff's on-set dialogue is dubbed over by the actor who regularly supplies Wedge's lines.

— Silly Dan 13:43, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Let me get this straight, so Jack Klaff plays Wadge when he's in the briefing room, but then he plays John D, and Wedge is played by Dennis Lawson.

Or was Jack always John D, and Wedge was always Dennis. Double D 14:12, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I just found some thing that you might want to see.

File:Wedge Antilles.JPG

It says that he is Wedge Antilles. I knew it. Luke and "Mr. Impossible" looked like best freind at the moment. So I knew he was good enough to survive. Plus they show Biggs before the battle, as well as "GD" (Red Leader). Why would they show "Mr. Impossible" before the battle if he doesn't get shown after that (or at lease as a Main Character)? Plus he looks and sounds just like Wedge.Double D 01:02, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Goes to show you, even those the credits said "John D", the script lables him as Wedge, and thats what really tells the story. In conclusion, this guy is no dought, non other, than the one and only, Wedge Antilles. Double D 01:47, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


How do we know the exact name of the Blue pilots (other than those mentioned in Rebel Assault and that Rookie One piloted a Spearhead? In the game he pilots an X-Wing. MoffRebus 01:15, 27 Oct 2005 (UTC)

  • Well, Rookie One does in fact pilot a R-22 Spearhead. Not everything in the games are the way they are in-universe. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 19:43, 27 Oct 2005 (UTC)


I was under the impression they hadn't been invented at that point. They're there in the 'strength' section, though. --Fade 21:28, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

  • Some say they were called R-22 spearheads then. I am not convinced. - TopAce 19:05, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Look at Star Wars: Complete Locations on the Massassi Temple page. There's an R-22 Spearhead in the temple's lowest hangar floor. This brings the A-wings at the Battle of Yavin from the computer game X-wing back into continuity. Crowe 14:16, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

So far I only know the Star Wars from 1 tp 6. I know what fighter they used during the Battle for Yavin or something and I only know X-wings and Y-wings are the only things seen in the Battle. A-wings appeared while the Rebels move from one base to another.(Assaulthead 19:20, 31 October 2007 (UTC))


  • Move to Battle of Yavin Prime? Lt. 1993 17:38, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Sam Raider and Ernek Marskan: not so dead Edit

Where did the killed by TIE Fighters bit come from? In the X-Wing strategy guide it says "Raider still wouldn't talk to me" and "Marskan still hated me" after the Battle of Yavin so they both survived. The only person it mentions being killed (other than those in the film) is Hamo.

Travis Edit

How did we know Travis died? Or, for that matter, was in [[Red Squadron]? The only relevant Google link is here, which leaves her status as unidentified. CUSWE doesn't mention her at all, implying the appearance I came across is the only one. I'd ask the person who added her to the list, but that editor was an anonymous user who hasn't added anything since June. —Silly Dan (talk) 14:40, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

You do know how to count, right?Edit

"7 Y-wing starfighters". So why do I see at least 11 Y-wings on the infobox picture? :P VT-16 15:09, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

  • EDIT: Wait, has the picture been doctored in any way. The image from the actual film doesn't include the fighters beneath Luke's W-wing. Where did you get this image? VT-16 15:16, 10 May 2006 (UTC)


The hidden TIE base was located aboard the Achtnak Turbine Station hidden deep within Yavin's atmosphere. And Classic Star Wars 9 shows the Imperials were making bombing raids on the Rebel base on Yavin IV -but shouldn't the 'Aftermath' section be a seperate site? This is supposed to be about just the battle that saw the Death Star destroyed.Tocneppil 19:34, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

only 30? Edit

what sorce only listed the fighter count at thirty?

  • "We count thirty Rebel ships, Lord Vader, but they're so small they're evading our turbolasers" - ANH - Kwenn 19:25, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

but there is 31 slots of fighters? not including Red 11, red 12 if they aer different maybee they where lanched at different times?

  • There are a few things pointing to there being more than 30.
  1. We see 30 X-wings/Y-wings in the Special Edition scene of ships approaching, but Rebel Assault shows us two A-Wings leaving the Death Star.
  2. Using some set photos and screen captures, I've been able to count 32 pilots in the briefing room scene, including Luke. Only three of these pilots -- Luke, (Fake) Wedge and Jon Vander (Gold Leader) -- are seen in the DS battle. Two others are made part of Red and Gold squadron (Elyhek Rue, Lt. Lepira) in the CCG. Only a handful of faces are far away or obscured, but I'd say we see enough to conclude that none of the actors playing pilots in this scene play pilots in the DS battle scene (except Luke and Vander).
  3. Pilots seen putting on their helmets and getting in launching ships in the hangar are also not seen in that briefing room. This gives us four more pilots: Bren Quersey (Red 8), Ryle Torsyn (Gold 3), Hol Okand (Gold 6), Wenton Chan (no callsign). That gives us a total of 36 so far.
  4. The Droids comic showing extra pilots gives us at least two noticeable new pilots: the blonde woman named Travis and an unnamed dark-skinned pilot. That's 38.
  5. In the battle scene (not including Luke and Wedge), we see 8 additional pilots. Which gives us a grand total of 46!

OK, is 46 pilots an outrageous number? Maybe. But every pilot named but never pictured (Farlander, Blastwell) could be one of the unnamed briefing room pilots. I suppose you could even argue that if we can consider "Fake" Wedge to be the same character as Real Wedge, even though he's the wrong actor, any of those pilots could be any pilot we see later. So, maybe I'm poking holes in my own argument here, but at the very least we've got 32 pilots.

Don't forget that there's nothing that says more pilots couldn't have left Yavin after the initial 30-count by that Imperial officer. Also, any unseen Y-wings in the battle could have been the kind with a gunner's seat in the back. --JMM 18:28, 2 October 2006 (UTC) EDIT: Made some corrections to my above comments. --JMM 00:08, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

not all the pilots went to attak the death star some where ill/hert, some ran of and some needed to be on stand by (or slow down impereall reinforsments). P.S there where 32 rebels ataking the death star. Unsigned comment by (talk • contribs).

You all realise some ships use more than one crewmember? like y wing gunner or co pilots.

Jal Te GnievEdit

Should there be a mention of Luke taking Jal Te Gniev's X-wing? The latter apparently had come down with 'space-measels' or something and wasn't rendered 'unfit to fly'. The full story's in Vader's Quest, a copy of which I don't have.Tocneppil 05:46, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


That Red Leader guy said near the end of the battle that they had lost Tiree(sp?) and Hutch(sp?). But I don't see any Hutch in the list of participant pilots. We may not know where he belonged, but shouldn't he at least be mentioned in the unknown squadron list?DarthMRN

  • Yeah, I've always thought it was 'hutch', too, but he's referring to Jon Vander, who's nickname was 'Dutch'.Tocneppil 22:18, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Starfighters? Edit

It says 32 starfighters. 22 X-Wings+7 Y-Wings+1 R-22 Spearhead=30 starfighters. If you count the Millenium Falcon you get 31. Does that mean 32 pilots? 22 X-Wing pilots+7 Y-Wing A4 pilots+1 R-22 Spearhead pilot+Millenium Falcon's two pilots=32 pilots. --Emperor Maakurder 's comlink 19:54, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

  • I changed the full number to 32, and forgot to change the numbers below. They now match up. The Falcon is not a starfighter. --JMM 15:03, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

"Mentioned only"?Edit

Isn't listing all the places the Battle of Yavin is "mentioned only" going a little too far? I mean, it's mentioned in many, many novels and comics and games. This list would get insanely long, plus, doesn't "mentioned only" by definition disqualify it from being an Appearance?? --JMM 22:45, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Just trying to get some new attention for this question. Comments, anyone?--JMM 18:36, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
    • Without counting Mentioned Only, we would lose a good number of articles. The appearances section might get excessively long, but that is what we have scrollboxes for. Who would get to decide how many and which Appearances qualified if we were to limit them? No one could. So we collect all. That is what being through will get us. DarthMRN 23:00, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
      • I'm not saying that the "mentioned only" tag should not be used in some articles. I'm just saying, I don't think it's warranted here. The Battle of Yavin is mentioned constantly in the EU, and it seems like overkill. --JMM 17:30, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Logic Edit

If you think about it most of the pilots can be placed, exsampell, Keyan Farlander is in gold squadron there are 7 y-wings in gold(1 in green) so thay must be gold 7. Unsigned comment by (talk • contribs).

  • The info on the squadron is a little vague. We don't know for certain how many ships were in Gold Squadron. We only know of the seven, but there could be more, so we don't really know Farlander's callsign. --JMM 22:15, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Wait a minute... ? Edit

We do know what calendar the GALACTIC EMPIRE used... it was the old republical one... it's just the 2nd empire we don't know about.

The easy way outEdit

I was just watching on youtube . . .

Why didn't the Empire just to that, it would have been much easier to get to the base.

Because the Death Star's superlaser took about 24 hours to charge completely, IIRC. 16:21, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Another TIE advancedEdit

What is the source for the TIE advanced pilot from Rebel Assault being the separate person than Darth Vader? I always thought it was him when I played the game. Besides, the cutscene doesn't show him being killed, he just flies away. QuiGonJinnThe ability to speak does not make you intelligent.Quigonheadshot 14:47, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Another Question Edit

This has been bothering me for a while. When the Death Star entered the system I would assume the rebels would have scrambled all availible fighters as a failed attack would have resulted in the destruction of their base. However during the celebrations scene there are cleary dozen of pilots left over. My initial thought was the rebellion simply had more pilots than ships which considering the circumstances is plausible. Where then did the ships used during the subsequent fighting come from? 00:04, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

I am by no means an expert but, If i've read things correctly, this was not the main part of the rebel alliance. The 3 squardons (going from soley the movie squadron count) were detached from a Corilian Cruiser that belonged to the Leaders of the Rebellion. So my guess is that a lot of the Rebels had started evacuating but because there was a small chance for the Rebels to destroy the DS and this being the most advantagis time, they assigned a small group of the more "experienced" pilots to the assignment (Luke was a fill in for a sick pilot). The huge cerimony is the remainder of the rebel squadrons that were out with other Rebel groups.

Black Squadron being the only squadron deployed Edit

Is there a source for this or is this assumed. There are several things that point to more fighters being launched at least at somepoint in the battle. For starters the sheer amount of casualties inflicted emplies a much bigger force. With Porkins being the only X-Wing shown shot down by the turbolaser fire and Darth Vader and his wing mates manning the trench that leaves 19 casualties to be caused by 6 fighters one who gets shot down early in the battle and the rest being destroyed at some point. Seeing as tie fighters are inferior to the rebel craft and are designed to attack in numbers it is unlikely that only 6 could cause that much damage. Also in Rogue Squadron II many ties are seen. As for the argument that the attack wasn't considered a threat during the battle the imperials analyzed the attack and realized that there was a danger. While this wasn't enough for Tarkin to evacuate it would probably be enough to justify having more than 8 fighters in the battle. Finally Wedge is credited with 6 kills in the battle, meaning he would have had to have shot down the whole squadron save Vader and his wingmen. Thoughts? 20:49, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Also half of the 501st was destroyed getting to their ships and another third were killed in the explosion, this implies more ships were scrambling when the death star was destroyed. 22:26, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

0 BBY? Edit

Didn't the battle of Yavin took place DURING the battle of Yavin, not before? Should we change the date from 0BBY to DBY, BY or 0 BBY/ABY?-- 04:49, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Changed to "0 BBY/0 ABY" 02:19, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

X2 and Shara?Edit

Reading the articles of both these character, it didn't seem to say they were part of the assault on the Death Star, but part of an attack on a Star Destroyer at the time. If this is true, I don't think the two characters should be listed among the starfighter pilots who attaked the Death Sta. Mentioning them in a different section is fine, though. --JMM 18:11, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Green Squadron Edit

A source citation tag has been added to the line stating that Green Squadron had X-wings and Y-wings at Yavin. The cited source was The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia, but that information doesn't seem to be in there. --JMM (talk) 16:10, November 4, 2013 (UTC) What I wanna know is why the remaining fighters aren't listed in Green Squadron? We know only 4 squadrons attacked the Death Star (Red,Gold,Green,Blue), and we know everyone in Red, Gold, and Blue squadrons, so why can't we list everyone not in those squadrons in Green squadron? (e.g. the R22s) 00:36, July 27, 2014 (UTC)

Y-wings Participating at YavinEdit

Upon examining the Special Edition, Wide Screen, as the rebel fighters clear Yavin IV on their approach to the Death Star, there are 8 Y-wings shown, although you really have to watch the upper right corner of the screen to find the eighth one. As movies are G-canon, I've edited the battle info box to show this. Crazy Danny, Jinsai Grand Master 16:42, February 28, 2014 (UTC)

R22 Spearheads?Edit

R22s are in the battle, as seen in Rebel Assault, however they are not listed in the info box which contains combatants. Is this on purpose or accidental?

MC80 cruisers question Edit

Quote: "A large part of the Alliance Fleet, including MC80 Star Cruisers, Nebulon-B escort frigates"
But isn't it ... well, plain wrong, concerning that Rebels had very little time between Leia and Han delivered warnings about impeding Imperial attack and the attack itself, thus they were only left with small fleet of starfighters that participated in operations. Also - no escort was available for Death Star, mainly because even taking the superlaser out of question, the station possessed enought firepower "to nearly match the half of Imperial Navy" --Terran Ghost (talk) 13:36, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

  • Hi, the info is from the game Star Wars: Empire at War. It expands on the battle, and you could say that they were there "off-screen". Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 16:05, June 5, 2015 (UTC)
  • Well, I know this was taken from the game experience, the thing is - this look ridiculous plot-wise. Tarkin didn't bring any warships to escort the Death Star and he did it on purpose, because he was confident up to the second half of the Battle of Yavin that his battlestation is invincible... --Terran Ghost (talk) 19:32, June 5, 2015 (UTC)
    • it's not the wiki's job to decide what makes sense, but to present information given in the sources. Whether the information is logical is irrelevant 19:45, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

sorry if this is a bad question Edit

How exactly did Blue (I think it was blue) squadron participate in the battle of yavin. Were they covering for the Tantive 4 or something. Unsigned comment by Meowstar12 (talk • contribs).

  • According to Blue Squadron's page: Blue Squadron served at the Rebel base on Yavin 4, and participated in the Battle of Yavin. The squadron was made up of six pilots, all flying X-wings. It was essential in clearing the first Death Star's surface of turrets, and neutralized a larger laser cannon emplacement. Their main goal had been to join Green Squadron in an attack run on the station's superlaser, and also hopefully distract the Empire from the exhaust port attack. --Lewisr (talk) 15:33, December 10, 2018 (UTC)
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