Talk:DC-15S

Pistol?

Okay. Isn't this properly a small rifle or carbine, rather than a pistol? ~~Thorvindr

• Well, doesn't it fire like a pistol? Admiral J. Nebulax ^(talk) 20:41, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
  • It can be set to rapid fire, as demonstrated by 212th Attack Battalion troops on Utapau. Seems more like a machine gun pistol than a rifle, even though it looks very similar to the E-11 "Stormtrooper One" rifle - Kwenn 17:39, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
    • I agree. It does seem more like a machine gun pistol. Admiral J. Nebulax ^(talk) 19:16, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
      • I would say "Machine Carbine", as it lacks the power of a true "machine gun", but is more than a pistol; basically, thats the description of a carbie. And yeah, that DC-15s in RotS is very rapidly fired!Liberater444 04:17, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
        • By the Saga Edition Roleplaying game, the DC-15 is a blaster carbine with a folding stock (which with the stock folded, it works pretty much like a heavy blaster pistol with autofire). The DC-15A is the full sized rifle (possible heavy rifle). Stripped down (no stock) the DC-15 becomes the DC-17 hand blaster and Commando pistol. Which makes sense for the GAR, as standardized parts would make field modifications and repairs quicker and easier. I move we classify it as a blaster carbine (most of the time, they had the stock folded, but used it with two hands like a rifle) and note the folding stock. Operations.kt 18:55, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
          • Also, this page is linked to from Blaster carbine already. Might as well call a carbine a carbine, eh? Operations.kt 19:19, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Appearances

Did this not also appear in AOTC? Or was that simply a seperate but very similar weapon? I know it appears in the AOTC Visual Dictionary... --ElScoob 00:20, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Not the same weapon in Battlefront

Hey, I just wanted to say that I do not believe that the DC-15 blaster in the movies is the same weapon used in the Battlefront series of video/computer games. I noticed some major differences, which I will list:

• The clone sidearm's basic design is completely different from the design of the DC-15 blaster (this is evident if you play either game in the 1st person perspective). The rear part of the sidearm is very different from the rear part of the DC-15 blaster.
• The sidearm in Battlefront features some kind of self-charging power cell and fires only in semi-automatic, while the DC-15 blaster is a magazine-fed select-fire weapon (semi-auto demonstrated in Star Wars: Republic Commando, and full-auto demonstrated in Episode III: Revenge of the Sith).
• The DC-15 blaster (so named on page 39 of the Star Wars: Attack of the Clones: The Visual Dictionary is (roughly) 2.5-3 feet long [75-90cm], and this is much larger than any pistol in the official canon, while the pistol in the Battlefront series is no more than 1.5 feet long [45cm] (still ridiculously large for a real-life pistol, but star wars isn't real life ;).
• The DC-15 blaster demonstrated excellent armor penetration capabilities when a clone trooper of the 212th Attack Battalion destroyed a LM-432 crab droid with a single burst of automatic fire. The clone sidearm does not demonstrate this same capability in either BFI or BFII.
• The DC-15 blaster has demonstrated very little recoil, as an Advanced Recon Commando was able to dual-wield two of the weapons ([1]) and still being able to fire accurately in Star Wars Republic 50: The Battle of Kamino, and in ROTS where a clone trooper destroyed two crab droids while using his weapon on full automatic without any (obvious) muzzle climb or recoil, while the pistol in the BF games demonstrates obvious recoil when fired.
• Based on these facts, the DC-15 blaster demonstrates capabilities and traits more along the lines of a real-life submachine gun or carbine (good armor penetration, selective fire, short effective range), while the sidearm in the games is more like a Desert Eagle .50 magnum or other heavy pistol. There are some very obvious differences between the two weapons.

Since Battlefront is known to go against traditional SW canon, i think we should either split this article into two different articles (such as "DC-15 blaster" and "DC-15S sidearm") or whatever, since the weapon in battlefront and the weapon featured in ROTS are obviously two different weapons.

P.S.: Just curious, but what source states that the pistol in BF is called a DC-15S? Thanks.

Prudii2043 17:53, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

• All of that comes down to game mechanics. And Prudii, I've played the game; the pistols are identical. Unless you can prove your first point with images, they were the same. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 19:32, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

• I could if you could tell me how to upload game screenshots. I tried it and it wouldn't let me. But oh well *sighs*.Prudii2043 21:34, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Let me ask you this: Have you taken pictures from the game? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 23:36, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Yes sir, thats what I did. Prudii2043 17:18, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
      • Did you upload them to your computer? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 22:47, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
        • Whoops, bad communication on my part. I took screenshots with my PC of BFI version of the game, not pics with my camera. Prudii2043 03:08, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
          • So you have them on your computer, then. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 14:11, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
            • Yeah. Prudii2043 16:55, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
              • Okay, under "toolbox" on the left side of the screen is "Upload file". Just follow the instructions there. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 20:09, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
                • I tried uploading it, and it says the file is corrupt or has an incorrect extension, so i don't know what to do aboutl. Prudii2043 00:35, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
                  • Well, I can't help you with that. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 01:38, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
                    • Did you save it as JPEG format? The standard saving on paint is BMP (bitmap). Go to "File" (in paint), "Save As" (still in paint), then go to the list under the filename and change it to ".JPG (JPEG)". That should fix it. Jorrel Fraajic 01:55, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
                      • However, that doesn't work sometimes. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 03:07, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
                        • Hmm... ok, just throwing it out there. Jorrel Fraajic 03:29, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
                          • Nine times out of ten, it works, though. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 15:31, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Price

Can anyone tell me what the price would be for one of these things. 216.211.51.199 02:58, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Image

The image on this page is not the DC-15S blaster rifle. It's an image of a stem gun, the type of weapon that served as the basis for the E-11. I am removing the image and replacing it with a correct one. Leader 04:55, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Dual Weilding?

Who put that line in and what is the source? Operations.kt 03:32, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Dual Wielding II

Could these be dual wielded? They look a little big for it but...Ultrabountyhunter 10:50, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Battlefront II DC-15S

I don't think the pistol for the clone troopers in Battlefront II is the DC-15S. It is very likely that it is the DC-17 hand blaster.--Darth Malice the Destroyer 23:57, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

• You are only partially correct. The side arm blaster in Battlefront games is not DC-15S, but actually DC-15s side arm blaster (not the DC-17 one). Mauser^Comlink 00:02, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
  • So what is it? A carbine? A pistol? Both? This wiki says it's a carbine, but I've seen it many times regarded as a pistol.68.202.113.72 21:57, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
    • DC-15S is a carbine, DC-15s side arm blaster is a blaster pistol. Mauser^Comlink 06:44, 10 June 2009

(UTC)

• • • • So it is a carbine. However, can the DC-15S be used single handed like a regular pistol?68.202.113.72
        • DC-15S cannot be used single handed like a regular pistol, but DC-15s side arm blaster can. Mauser^Comlink 13:48, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
          • Are you sure? I've seen Sergeant O'Niner use it single handed.68.202.113.72

I doubt that the blaster used in BF is a DC-15s side arm blaster as the design is nothing alike. It definitely looks more like a smaller DC-15S Carbine. Ggctuk 21:49, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Dual Wielding III

The DC-15S blaster can be dual wielded, check out this image. See the Arc at the bottom right corner, he's dual wielding them. Also it is possibly being dual wielded by the clone shock trooper in this image. Also can someone fix the placement of these two images so they are next to each other.

ARC troopers leading the defense of Kamino.

Shock troopers on Mustafar.

I second this claim.(68.202.113.72 20:06, 28 August 2009 (UTC))

Secondary Weapon

The article reads:

though most notably in the conflict's final days. It became the standard weapon just before the Battle of Teth until the Battle of Ryloth. From there it was used as a secondary weapon. The DC-15A was used before and after those times.

Where's this from? All the research shows that the Deece S continued to be used as a primary weapon and alternate to the Deece long. All the 501st Legion Clones during the attach on the Jedi Temple carried only DC-15S's. The 212th Attack Battalion troopers on Utapau also used them as a primary weapon with many trooper only carrying that.

The definition of Secondary Weapon is in essence a back-up weapon often of smaller calibre then the primary (not applicable in the Star Wars universe) used and carried by soldiers to be used should the primary be lost, damaged, out of ammunition or inapporpriate to use (such as being to large for a confined area). In most situations this means a pistol.

Regardless of weather the secondary weapon is a pistol or not, the term secondary weapon means that you have at least two weapons - the primary (which the article states is the DC-15A) AND the secondary (which the article say following the Battle of Ryloth is the DC-15S). Aside from the practicality of carrying both a long rifle and a carbine at the same time (not possible), none of the Clone troopers in either of the films or in The Clone Wars film or series carries both let alone uses the DC-15S as a back-up (which would require a holster or a sling on the Deece Short that no clone has)

I there-fore suggest that the information contained within the article is inaccurate. The DC-15S carbine is a shorter more practical alternative to the longer and more accurate DC-15A rifle. --OrtharRrith 18:07, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

• Many times, if not all battles during the Clone Wars, many clone troopers utilized this weapon. I guess the DC-15S is a great primary weapon, but I have seen them use it as a rifle like weapon. The DC-15S is small, and has little recoil(as I have seen in Episode III and the Clone Wars TV cartoon), so it makes a great weapon to use around anywhere. However, I have seen Sergeant O'Niner, some Clone Troopers in the 41st Legion and even Captain Rex(though he uses the DC-17 pistols more often, which i am not referring to anyway) use the DC-15S as a small blaster pistol(sans holster). Perhaps the DC-15 Short Carbine was the perfect weapon, for any environment. So...it is a very useful blaster.68.202.112.210 00:40, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

DC-15S

Where exactly do we find out that the DC-15 Carbine is called the "DC-15S"? It doesn't make any sense at all that there would be a pistol called the "DC-15s" and then a Carbine called the "DC-15S". In the visual dictionary (at least Ep. II) it's simply called the "DC-15 blaster", and then in the most recent episode of the Clone Wars it is called the "DC-15A". So, I'm just curious what source actually explicitly states that it is called the "DC-15S".

PS: It isn't the same gun in battlefront I or II.