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Connection to Visas MarrEdit

Any specific reason we can't mention a possible relation to Visas Marr?

  • Because that's speculation, and that has no place on Wookieepedia. Also, pending a Crisis of Infinite Coruscants, there will be no connection to Marr. It's just a name. NaruHina Talk Anakinsolo 06:25, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Speculation is saying Satele Shan is related to Revan but its stated anyway.

By saying Darth Marr could be related to V isas Marr is totally believeable. When has someone with the same last name not been related in star wars.

  • "Antilles". It's the Star Wars version of 'Smith'. For the record, there was also Nichos Marr from Children of the Jedi. However, I believe those are family names for Visas and Nichos, names for Sith are chosen or conferred upon an apprentice. The name following "Darth" usually resembles a word which has connotations to darkness, pain, or damage. In this case, "Marr"="Mar (verb) to inflict damage, especially disfiguring damage"] ---CadmiumX99 15:07, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
    • Ok but Nichos Marr and Visas Marr are separated by over 2000 years, both Visas Marra and Darth Marr were/are darksiders, and are close enough to where they could be related. I guess once its confirmed that Darth Marr is a Miraluka then you can put that they can be related. But then again that may be speculation
      • You're right. It would be. As for Satele, it is not sataed she and Revan are related, only that the Sith believe she is his descendant. If you want an example of this exact situation, Bastila Shan and Deena Shan both have the same surname and are explicitly confirmed not to be related. Furthermore, "Marr" likely has no relation to his birth name, ala Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader. NaruHina Talk Anakinsolo 08:03, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
        • Yeah but once again Bastila Shan and Deena Shan are separated by over 2000 years. I assume since Katarr was destroyed Visas Marr is one of the few Miraluka left. Visas Marr and Darth Marr are seperated only by 300 years which could be 3 to 4 generations. Since the Shan family is still alive, the Marr family can be alive as well. Being a Miraluka would also strengthen my arguement. And there have been cases where a Sith Lord does not choose a new name.
          • Satele Shan has been confirmed to be related to both Bastila Shan and Revan as of the "Shadow of Revan" expansion 3.0 of SWTOR. Theron Shan as well, being that he is Satele's son. I agree that there is a good chance that Darth Marr is related to Visas Marr. The story just hasn't fleshed out.

Darth Marr in 'The Lost Suns'?Edit


The cover art from the Lost Suns.


All the images of Darth Marr in Blood of the Empire

This cover art from the lost suns bares a remarkable reseblence of Darth Marr, infact looking through Blood of the Empire at his armour i'm pretty sure that this is Darth Marr. Mask and Hood have the same markings, the mask has same red thick wires running though them, the spikes on his shoulders, the wires running up his chest and of course the same colour scheme. If others agree then the cover art should be used as the main, infobox image. Alexsau1991 (talk page) StupidSithEmblem-Traced-TORkit 18:52, April 16, 2011 (UTC)
  • I feel like it should be implemented. For instance, if we were to see someone in Vader's armor, then we wouldn't question whether or not it was Vader. BUT at the same time... this may have just been popular armor at the time. So I'm going to vote no for now, but if you would like to find a way to contact the comic's author or the artist to find out with certainty, feel free. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 03:57, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
    • I fully agree, I was quite convinced that it was Darth Marr, being a member of the Dark Council you would assume he wouldn't be wearing the same armour as others but we can't be entirely sure - especially since we've seen the Sith Warrior in similar armour. I have emailed the artist. Alexsau1991 (talk page) StupidSithEmblem-Traced-TORkit 17:54, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

New infobox image Edit

What about this image. It is taken from upfront. It should be cropped though. --Darth Stefan (Talk) 17:47, January 25, 2012 (UTC)


Whats the source for his name Eli Ravis? Overlord Divine 20:10, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Second Apprentice Edit

Why is Lachris listed as his only apprentice whem [SPOILER ALERT] Drellik's brother was another apprentice or Marr's? -- 23:55, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

  • Because Marr just takes his brother to Korriban. That doesn't mean he's Marr's apprentice. Cade Calrayn StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit 00:03, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Species Edit

(Contains Spoilers)

It was stated in the book "TOR Annihilation" that Marr was human. However, in update 4.0 of Star Wars: The Old Republic (Knights of the Fallen Empire), you attain Marr as a companion for a small amount of time.

However, if you preview a head piece different to Darth Marrs mask, you find out what he looks like. But this is most likely a placeholder since Marr was tainted so much by the darkside that his visage and body was being ravaged and it was killing him also.

Update Edit

This article is not up to date. Info from the State of the Galaxy as well as the new updates needs to be put down. He's not in sole command of the military, there's a member of the Dark Council who succeeded Arho, and he is de facto leader of the Dark Council now. I have attempted and just had my edits undone repeatedly. Councilor 'Rumilee (talk) 02:46, April 8, 2014 (UTC)

Will do, thanks. I'm pretty new to the whole editing things. Councilor 'Rumilee (talk) 15:17, April 8, 2014 (UTC)

Force Ghost? Edit

It's just a thought here, but from everything the canon itself tells us, it was very rare for a Sith to take the form of a true force ghost as we see in the knights of the fallen empire story line. In most every case, those sith who did become true force ghosts (differentiating between those sith whose ghost was tied to an object such as Exar Kun, as well as those seeking other bodies, such as Sidious) were those who were seeking some form of redemption. For example, Ajunta Pall sought to rejoin his master and the light once more, while Marr (for all his faults as a sith) wanted to prevent the Emperor from killing all life in the galaxy. Given this, would it be worth mentioning that his becoming a ghost, which in turn sought to aide the Jedi through Shan, was a rare event due to his dark leanings? Some have also theorized that he was not as "dark" as it seemed, or that his desire to save the galaxy was a redeeming factor allowing him to move into the light. Whatever the case, back to the original point, shouldn't it be mentioned that it was rare for a Sith lord to actually become a ghost? 04:16, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

Please do now reinstate the Hair, Eye's and Skin Colour As the model used for his face want meant to be seen and was actually a placeholder model as stated by Bioware.

Early version of the Rule of One? Edit

Darth Marr believes the Sith and their Empire need to evolve and change in order to survive, and especially in order for the Sith to defeat the Eternal Empire. Specifically he believes the infighting and plotting has to stop. This sounds very similar to the Rule of One, created by Darth Krayt thousands of years later in which the Sith in his Order were taught loyalty to the Dark Lord and the Sith Order instead of ambition and conquest. I'm pondering if Darth Marr's philosophy's are technically the same as the Rule of One? User:Godzillavkk 3/5/16

Is it okay if I remove the newly added Behind the Scenes part?Edit

"Darth Marr shares a surname with Visas Marr, although given the Sith's mysterious past, it is unclear if this bares any relevance."

I can't really see much reason for it being there, as "Marr" most likely isn't actually Darth Marr's surname. Would it be okay for me to remove that part? I'm not going to straight up remove it, because somebody might want it there. Thanks for any answers --LoLuX12 (talk) 20:31, April 3, 2016 (UTC)

  • Well, I'll be removing it now, but anyone can revert the removal if they believe I did wrong and that it should stay there. --LoLuX12 (talk) 22:45, April 3, 2016 (UTC)


On the original Page about Darth Marr, under the Topic of Infighting and Open War, that information is highly inaccurate due to choices made by the Bounty Hunter player in the game SWTOR, of course the paragraph is spoiling it to where it tells you that the BH Player went Dark-side choice and killed Supreme Chancellor Janarus. But the Light-side choice is to save the Bounty Hunter's record and leave Janarus Alive while killing Tormen, that topic is highly disputable due to these certain choices. Someone desperately needs to edit this part and not include FALSE information or changeable information :D Unsigned comment by (talk • contribs).

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