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shouldn't Ventress's appearances be moved here. Unsigned comment by (talk • contribs).

  • First, please begin sentences with a capital letter. Second, please conclude questions with a question mark (it looks like this: ?). Third, please sign your comments by typing four tildes (it looks like this: ~~~~). Finally, yes. ~ SavageBob 05:42, January 10, 2011 (UTC)
  • I intend to move them, but I'll be busy with work today and tomorrow. I also plan to change "Rattataki" to Dathomirian in plenty of the appearances sections. If someone else gets this taken care of before then, I guess I'll just have to deal with it.Master Lorimor 19:10, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Hybred Edit

Where has it been established that Dathomirians are a human/zabrak hybred? Just because it's been established that there is a village of zabrak living on Dathomir, there was nothing in the 'Clone Wars' episode to suggest that zabrak and humans are capable of interbreeding. Unsigned comment by (talk • contribs).

Something's wrong with this wiki... Edit

I looked at the Quinlan Vos wiki yesterday and I noticed, in one of the photos where there's a bunch of Dathomiri, alot of them had red hair, and blueish skin! And Ros Lai has pale skin and red hair, and in this wiki it says that they can only have silver to black hair and only pale skin, and no blue skin. So... either the comics are wrong or the wiki is wrong, or their both wrong, or their both right, I don't know. Could someone help me with this? 23:33, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

  • Provide a link to the image you refer to and maybe we can comment. ~SavageBOB sig 00:01, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
  • I would if I could but, I don't know how. 04:11, June 19, 2011 (UTC)
    • You can just paste the URL into the page, and it will show up. If you really want to format it, you can do so like this: [ your description here]. ~SavageBOB sig 05:13, June 19, 2011 (UTC)
    • I'd imagine it's this image, which, I'm assuming is just stylized art in the same way that say, Dark Empire depicts people with green or yellow skin. -Zekk_Skywalk 05:15, June 19, 2011 (UTC)
      • Ah, I see. I checked that comic, and there are three possibilities: 1) Those aren't racial Dathomirians. I'm pretty sure it's been established that there are Nightsisters of other species as well. 2) There are some blue-skinned Dathomirians. This wouldn't be the first time a comic book differed from established canon, as colorists at Dark Horse seem to be pretty bad about adhering to canon. 3) It is a stylistic effect, as you note, Zekk. Note that in the same comic, there is a Givin character who sometimes has white skin and sometimes blue skin depending on the setting; the same could hold true for the Dathomirians. ~SavageBOB sig 05:26, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Zabraks? Edit

Hey, I noticed that the appearances section devoid of sources in which Darth Maul and Savage Opress appear, and additionally the two are left out of the "notable members" area. Since they have both been officially labeled as "Dathomirian Zabrak", wouldn't they technically count as Dathomirians as well, or does the term only apply to the females?--The Shadow Emperor 21:24, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

  • The term applies to the species of the females. The males are just Zabrak that live on Dathomir. --Lamp774 21:49, March 1, 2012 (UTC)Lamp774
    • That means there are absolutely no male hybrid? They sure must have an impressive knowledge of birth control.LelalMekha 21:52, March 1, 2012 (UTC)
      • If that's the case, Lamp774, don't you should we have an article for Dathomirian Zabraks as well? As I said before, the official species of Maul and Opress according to is "Dathomrian Zabrak." If this article refers to the human female population of Dathomir with a bit of Zabrak blood, then perhaps we could have a counterpart version for the male Zabraks on Dathomir with a touch of human blood. Just a thought.--The Shadow Emperor 17:57, March 10, 2012 (UTC)
        • Scratch that, I just took another look at Opress and Maul's pages. Take a look: (Opress and Maul). The species of both are given as Dathomirians--not Dathomirian Zabraks. Given that this is coming from the official encyclopedia, I think it's correct to label them as Dathomirians, and Dathomirians only. The differences between the two genders is obviously due to sexual dimorphism. So that leaves us with a choice: will we continue to separate the two as Dathomririans and Dathomirian Zabraks and leave males out of this article, or recognize them as just two genders of the exact same species? I propose the latter. What do the rest of you think?--The Shadow Emperor 18:59, March 10, 2012 (UTC)
          • I'm nervous to make such a claim, half because the breeding system is never intuitively explained (One would think that something more along the lines of the Sith and Human hybridization would occur, with a mixing of the genetic structure, as opposed to the males and females being so strictly physically different(please correct me if it is actually explained)), and half because it has been established that many of the Zabraks have been imported from off-world, meaning that those ones would be of pure Zabrak descent, but still be considered Dathomirian. It is worth considering that the Iridonian and Dathomirian variants are physically different (namely, their horns, even without dark side influence), which would be a reason to state them as Dathomiri. On the other side while it may be lower class cannon, SWTOR refers to them as Zabraks. I can't decide either way, I just hope this helps. 01:52, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Larger and sharper horns? Not naturally Edit

The article currently states that "the male counterpart resembled closely of a Zabrak, and had larger and sharper horns". But the Book of Sith doesn't seem to support this. Page 122 : "Through the magicks of the Fanged God, a warrior can be transformed into an avatar of primal anger. (...) A transformed warrior will be massive, standing a head taller, boasting a broad chest and spine-crushing arms. A proud Zabrak of the Nightbrothers will grow a crown of horns to rival that of a verne buck in autumn." → Wouldn't that mean Dathomirian Zabrak horns are not naturally longer or sharper than those of the Iridonian Zabraks – they only become so after transformation through magick?--LelalMekha 12:47, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

The episodic content from the animated series would seem to agree with you. If I remember correctly, they show Savage Opress being altered by Dathomiri Magicks, where originally he had normal length horns. Zoughtbaj (talk) 04:28, August 20, 2012 (UTC)

Dathomiri vs Dathomirian Edit

Now that the "Dathomiri" article has become "Dathomirian", in every article that uses the word Dathomiri, it sounds like we're referrinf to the hybrid species. But it isn't right every time. For example, Charal is indeed a Dathomiri, but not a Dathomirian. The word Jai is used in Dathomiri language, not necessarily Dathomriain (Teneniel Djo is no hybrid). Shouldn't we have separate articles for the two terms? I know the current draft mentions the evolution of the term, but I don't think it's enough, due to linking issues. Not sure my point is really clear, but I'm willing to explain further what I mean.--LelalMekha 16:11, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

  • Isn't Dathomiri a planetary demonym? In my opinion, it should redirect to Dathomir, not to Dathomirian, since it's not a species identification at all. ~SavageBOB sig 15:55, October 10, 2012 (UTC)
    • Well in fact, that was the point of my message, but my wording may sound a bit confusing. Indeed, Dathomiri is a denonym. Just look at the Je'daii Order page: among the founder are the "Dathomiri shamans and seers", with "Dathomiri" pipelinking to "Dathomirian". I believe it shouldn't be so. --LelalMekha (talk) 21:27, October 10, 2012 (UTC)
      • Can you find a source that uses "Dathomiri" as a demonym? Armed with that information, we should update the Dathomir page to mention "Dathomiri" in the infobox, and then redirect Dathomiri to Dathomir. ~SavageBOB sig 22:36, October 10, 2012 (UTC)
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