Height[]
The episode guide gives the height of his animation model, not the actual height of the character. The model's height includes his hat too. Darth Morrt 19:17, January 29, 2011 (UTC)
Not in Plagueis[]
What is the source for the indirect mention in Darth Plagueis? Is it the following?
It had been theorized by Jedi and Sith alike that balance between the light and dark sides was actually under the guidance of a group of discorporate entities—the ones called the Celestials, perhaps—who had merged themselves with the Force thousands of generations earlier, and had continued to guide the fate of the galaxy ever since. In effect, a higher order of intermediaries, whose powers were beyond the understanding of mortal beings. But many Sith viewed the notion with disdain, for the theoretical existence of such a group had little bearing on the goal of making the Force subservient to the will of an enlightened elite.
If so, that cannot be counted as an indirect reference to this character, and the novel should be removed from the article's sources. This is a mention of "a group of discorporate entities," possibly the Celestials, and the text offers no further details that would allow for an identification with Father, Daughter, Son, or any other Family Member. --R5-X41238-G8-R3-3124-D2 19:18, March 24, 2012 (UTC)