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Star Wars? Edit

If this is in-universe, then should the article title not be From a Certain Point of View? Or am I missing something? ProfessorTofty (talk) 22:50, April 10, 2017 (UTC)

Individual stories Edit

Now we have a couple of individual story names, are we going to add the individual stories to the relevant appearance sections, so for the Dianoga are we adding it like Star Wars: From a Certain Point of View—"The Baptist" or are we going to leave it as Star Wars: From a Certain Point of View? Unless someone else has an alternative? --Lewisr (talk) 02:22, July 13, 2017 (UTC)

  • If I'm correct, and this way was done with the old Legends books "Tales from..." is that the title of the short story is added to appearances list instead of the book collecting the stories. For example Jabba Desilijic Tiure/Legends or Maz Kanata appearances lists have some short stories from the same book and we add only the title of the short story not from the book collecting it--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 02:28, July 13, 2017 (UTC)
    • The reason why I suggested it like Star Wars: From a Certain Point of View—"The Baptist" is because the short stories from The Rise of the Empire are added in appearances the same way, and some from Tales from a Galaxy Far, Far Away: Aliens: Volume I are also done the same --Lewisr (talk) 02:36, July 13, 2017 (UTC)
      • What I've done in the past is "Short Story"—Source, to mimic the InsiderCite template. In the case of Aliens Vol 1, some short stories were published prior to the book, so those don't need the extended description. I'd say that articles for The Baptist (and whatever else) should use "The Baptist"—Star Wars: From a Certain Point of View. - Cwedin(talk) 02:52, July 13, 2017 (UTC)
        • Awesome thank you, that makes sense! --Lewisr (talk) 02:54, July 13, 2017 (UTC)

First of its kind?Edit

Shoot, I've never posted in the "Talk" section, so I'm sure this will get deleted for poor formatting or something. Anyway, perhaps this will at least get people thinking but I take exception to this book being called the "first-of-its-kind". This is obviously sourced from the official site but wouldn't it be advantageous to readers to point out (parenthetically) that the "Tales From..." series preceded this book? I mean, Disney canon or not, the books were officially licenced. Surely this isn't the balloon box means but it says to sign my comment with four tildes sooo...

Mythosaurhunter (talk) 04:29, October 4, 2017 (UTC)

  • Completely agree. I've gone ahead and removed that bit. - Cwedin(talk) 22:40, October 6, 2017 (UTC)
    • I'm not sure I agree. Yes we had the "Tales from," books in the past, but this one is unique in how it's presented. To my recollection (and I could well be completely wrong here, so feel free to correct me), none of those books followed a film scene by scene in the way that FACPOV does. This book isn't an anthology in the way that Mos Eisley Cantina or Jabba's Palace or the others were, this book follows the scenes in ANH chronologically from beginning to end, exploring those scenes from alternative points of view. In that respect, it's very much "first of its kind." — DigiFluid(Whine here) 22:46, October 6, 2017 (UTC)
      • Good point, I hadn't considered that. I think it would be okay to say "first of its kind" if that context is included. - Cwedin(talk) 22:49, October 6, 2017 (UTC)

Mixed Canon? Some canon, some not? Edit

I know the publisher has referred to this book as canon but several stories such as "Whills", "Far Too Remote" and "Palpatine" are obviously played for humour and are very likely not canon unless it's canon that Sheev talks in Ye Olde English in his spare time, that the Rebels left a box fort on Dantooine or that The Whills are basically Lucasfilm writers mucking around. Makes it sort of a difficult to catagorize this book as a whole. Since we have individual pages for each story it could be worth labelling those as either canon or non-canon and have the main book article labelled differently? - Hayt 06:52, Oct 9, 2017 (UTC)

I think the (poorly-implemented) concept of this collection is that these are all quasi-canon. The reason I say this is, in addition to the examples you point to above, there are so many contradictions just within these stories that there is no way all of them can be correct. One story says the Cantina was open for over 24 hours and Wuher took over from Chalmun, the very next one says Wuher opened the Cantina that morning and Chalmun was nowhere around. Another said the Battle of Scarif was only three days before Luke & Company had their Death Star adventures, but a few stories later, it had been weeks since Biggs and Luke had last seen each other (Luke saw Biggs the day the Tantive IV was captured). And then there are all the problems with the starfighter squadrons. One story says that Red Squadron is composed of 12 starfighters but that there are a ton of pilots sitting around without ships from Blue and Green Squadrons, two stories later the chief mechanic says there are 20 ships in Red Squadron and not enough pilots to fly the remaining craft. All of these issues can only be one way or the other, not both, and it is clear that the Star Wars Story Group dropped the ball on trying to make sure all these stories match up properly and don't hurt the wider NuEU. As somebody who has read every young adult and adult novel, every short story, and every comic in the NuEU, this book is infuriating in its contradictions and disregard for the established (2014-present) canon). Darius von Whaleyland,Great Khan of the Barbarian Horde 06:19, October 24, 2017 (UTC)
I would argue that they're all canon. Firstly, the Story Group members aren't "canon police." Small inconsistencies will always exist, but that doesn't mean the stories aren't canonical. Secondly, the book is pretty clear that the narrators aren't always reliable. For example, some narration mistakenly refers to Muftak as "the Muftak," simply because the characters in that story misinterpreted what he said. Examples like that are found in almost every story. The book is called "From a Certain Point of View," after all... - Cwedin(talk) 22:29, October 24, 2017 (UTC)
Contradictions between each individual story: Duty Roster and Grounded, have also began to play out in the Star Wars: Geektionary: The Galaxy From A To Z and even the ongoing Marvel Star Wars. I think From a Certain Point of View needs to be treated with care as to whether or not each story is canon or not.--Noash Retrac (talk) 03:09, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Add Audiobook Narrators Edit

Recommend adding "Audiobook Narrator" column to the Stories table.Unsigned comment by Tecarr (talk • contribs).

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