the article states how "HK-47 bore a close resemblance to the HKB-3 hunter-killer droid produced by Czerka Corporation.". however, following the link shows that the HKB-3 hunter killer droid was manufactured by Baktoid Combat Automata, and doesn't seem to pop up until the rise of the empire era. on top of that, the two don't seem particularly similar, in appearance or in function. just wondering if this is a mistake? 188.8.131.52 11:57, April 25, 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, its been 4 years now and I haven't seen where HK-47 was also based off of the HKB-3. The source cites the Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide, but I have not seen any information in the guide that says or even hints this. Can anyone point to the specific page? Otherwise this information needs to be removed. --RemingtonV (talk) 23:21, March 22, 2018 (UTC)
I'd like to make an inquiry about recent edits I have made to the HK-47 page, which have all been reverted to original information. I simply wish to enrich the information on the wikia further, and am using info from KoTOR 1, but I am blocked at every turn. At first, I failed to cite the information; folly on my part, I understand. But since then, every subsequent citation I've tried to add to the edit has also been denied, even when I tried to cite it directly to the game (KoTOR 1). I have cited a number of times the direct quotation from HK-47 that supports my edit, but it has been rejected. I ask the community, and the public at large: what source can I use, if not ones from the game? As I said, citing the game itself was also rejected. So how is any of the information on this page verified? A number of pieces of information that only came from quotations cited the game, so why can't my information? It is valid information, and I simply wish to see it recognized.
My edit is as follows:
As per protocol with sith assassin droids prior to going on missions, HK-47's memory core was wiped of all knowledge of his original master. His memory could only be restored upon fulfilling his mission, and successfully returning to his master. As he never managed to return to his master, the automatic recall function was never activated, and he couldn’t remember Revan. (Pomeroy (talk) 12:46, September 21, 2014 (UTC))
I understand that Galaxy of Heroes isn't canon itself, but it'd be safe to say that the characters it uses are canon, right?
HK-47 is a character card. It might not state it explicitly, but wouldn't it be safe to say that at least an anti-Jedi droid known as HK-47 exists in the Star Wars canon universe? JuniBug (talk) 02:40, January 5, 2016 (UTC)
- I second this, The game was released after the Legends purge, and as far as I can see, Hk-47 is the only Legends character there. It's safe to assume that there is an HK-47 in the canon universe, but like the Old Republic , it does not necessarily have to be the same as the Legends one, or have any relation except for name and appearance. Gurluas (talk) 13:35, January 24, 2016 (UTC)
- As Galaxy of Heroes is not canon (even if most of the characters are), I don't think this is more than fan service / similar to an easter egg (like how Mister Bone's briefly talked with 47's voice). SWTOR's expansions have also been released after the "Legends" purge, but are still considered non-canon to the main universe. While I also would LOVE for the KOTOR/SWTOR series (ESPECIALLY the HK series droids) to be returned to full official canon, his appearance in GoH does not constitute a return. But, as HK-47's appearances in the new Expanded Universe have become more brazen, I have high hopes that he will be fully returned to canon one day. RemingtonV (talk) 02:37, March 17, 2018 (UTC)
In SWTOR, which HK-47 is the real one?
In the Shroud of Memory mission in SWTOR, HK-55 comes across a copy of HK-47's head, memories, and personality. He is not aware that he is a copy until HK-55 informs and convinces him of such. HK-55 also says this explains why HK-47 had been encountered so many times throughout the galaxy before.
I figure, throughout SWTOR to present, there have been 3 HK-47s: 1. The HK-47 you face on the Foundry and the Emperor's Fortress. I know these are the same one, because when you face HK-47 on the Emperor's Fortress as an Imperial character, he remembers and acknowledges his defeat at the Foundry and that Malgus and his team had retrieves, repaired, and upgraded HK-47. It would have been highly unlikely that this HK-47 could have escaped as he was damaged to the point of deactivation and the space station self-destructed soon after.
2. The HK-47 you fight against in the Temple of Sacrifice. This HK-47 makes no mention of having fought the player previously, even if you are an Imperial player.
3. The duplicated head within the Coil.
Of these 3, I figured number 2 is actually the real HK-47. My reasoning is this is the only time you see him fighting side by side with Revan as his personal guard, just like in KOTOR 1, he makes no mention of having fought the player previously, even if Imperial, and the Force ghost of Revan's lightside refers directly to him as his "friend".
Also, while Revan implies that the first one you fought, in the Foundry was the original, the way he said it made me suspicious, "That HK unit you destroyed......he waited on me for 300 years.". He referred to it as "That HK unit" instead of "HK-47" and that paused before he said "he waited on me" makes me think that he was forming a plan to keep the original HK-47 a secret from the strike force. He may have already sent the original out on a mission (to avoid the two HK-47s from contacting each other as he known HK-47 does not play well with other HK units and would NOT enjoy the idea of someone copying him).
I think this is what happened. HK-47 reestablished contact with Revan and started traveling toward the Foundry to meet up with him. Enroute, he is captured, copied, and 2 duplicates made (one a complete copy and one just the head). The Shroud kept the duplicated head as a trophy and sent the completed duplicate to the Foundry to meet up with dark Revan. Its possible the original was sent as well, without either of them knowing. Here Revan put the copy in charge of the Foundry and its robotic forces. The copy of HK-47 was defeated by an Imperial strike force, and Revan implied it was the original to keep the real HK-47 a secret. The copy was then salvaged by Darth Malgus and the Schism Collective before being repaired, upgraded, and reprogrammed to serve as Malgus's guard. The copy reactived itself to face the intruders who came aboard the Emperor's Fortress, but was defeated again and knocked offline. This copy was completely destroyed when the space station exploded. Dark Revan secretly kept the original HK-47 with him as his own personal bodyguard, betting that since HK-47 was thought destroyed, he would be a valuable trump card. During the battle in the Temple of Sacrifice, Dark Revan summoned HK-47 during his fight with the Alliance strike force sent to kill him, but HK-47 was overwhelmed and deactivated.
Speculation: This is also when the Alliance salvaged HK-47's personality core, copied it, and modified it to be part of HK-55 and where HK-55 gets his tendency to say "meatbag" like HK-47.--RemingtonV (talk) 02:25, March 3, 2017 (UTC)
- All that your thinking and opinions are pure speculation. We know by the dialogue that Revan implies that the HK-47 in the foundry is the real one that leads to believe based on the source that the original HK was on Illum with the Emperor. We know that the Shroud made copied the memory of the original HK and created that replica head. Now the problem is with the one on Yavin there's no indication that HK was a copy or the original, but based on the operation and the "Even he corrupted my friend" (speculation) that he could be the reconstructed original, but based on the source there's nothing that could identify that HK as the original or a copy from the Shroud (Probably a copy). Now could the page get unlocked? --RaymondAM45 (talk) 09:26, February 18, 2018 (UTC)
- Not going to change the page based on this, as i have fully changed my opinion, plus I don't want the page getting locked again. I went back and looked at 47s' dialogue during the False Emperor. One thing he can say if he and HK-51 argue is that "...the 47 series remains the pinnacle of Hunter-Killer models...". This could be more evidence that he is indeed the original, as using the word "series" indicated he knows there is now more than one HK-47 as "series" means multiple units (you cant be a "series" if you are just one unit, then the proper term is only "unit"). The copy of 47 on the Coil refused to believe he was just a copy, initially insisting he was "the" HK-47, only accepting his status (but becoming depressed) once HK-55 convinced him. So it stands to reason any other copy of HK-47 would not be aware of being a duplicate, or would be depressed if they knew there were a copy. The 47 you face in the mission is not depressed and seems neutral (with hints of pride) that there are more of him (I'm getting this from how he talked). Given how conceited HK droids are (47 maybe even more so), it seems he'd be okay with having copies of himself (as long as he is the original). As a note, I do apologize for getting the page locked. I sometimes get hyper obsessed with a hypothesis and ignore evidence to the contrary. If I do that again, just hit me with a temporary edit suspension until I get my head back on straight and look at the evidence again.--RemingtonV (talk) 02:06, March 17, 2018 (UTC)
HK-47 as Mister Bones?
I am not saying that Mister Bones is HK-47, but the part in Aftermath: Empire's End, where Mister Bones glitches out and he speaks briefly like HK-47 would seemingly indicate that part of his programming was copied from HK-47. I'm not sure how we'd write this in, as this would make HK-47 canon. I know it was just a brief moment, but it happened in the canon continuity and only HK units spoke like that. We could create a stub article to start it, or wait and see if any more HK related stuff appears in canon. Thoughts? --RemingtonV (talk) 05:51, March 12, 2018 (UTC)
- A big no,the author confirmed that it was an Easter egg, but creating a canon HK article is pure speculation given that we don't know if they existed in the continuity-DarthRuiz30 (talk) 06:05, March 12, 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, hence why also proposed just waiting to see. Too bad its just an Easter egg (I know the author wanted him to be HK47 when writing the story). I'll still keep my eyes and ears open HK-47 references have been cropping up more since Rogue One (K-2SO was inspired by HK-47). Maybe one day they will see fit to bring him back into canon.--RemingtonV (talk) 18:12, March 16, 2018 (UTC)