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Battlefront talkEdit

When is the HMP in Battlefront? Isn't the ship in Battlefront called the MAF? 24.229.17.232 08:39, 6 Jul 2005

In Battlefront, the MAF is a completely different craft, isn't it? It looks slightly different and has different weapons. 24.229.17.232 08:01, 8 Jul 2005

I believe it's meant to be the same. It was added to Battlefront as an Ep3 teaser (note it's first seen on the Kashyyyk level, also a RotS sneak peek). I don't think there's much point in creating two separate entries for two vehicles that are, to all intents and purposes, the same - Kwenn

  • You can see further down on this page: http://features.teamxbox.com/xbox/853/Star-Wars-Battlefront-Air-Vehicles/p2/ that the two craft are nothing alike, save for similar purposes. Adding a separate page for the MAF. VT-16 10:10, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)
    • They are the same craft no matter what. They're both the HMP/MAF gunship. The only way I could see them different is with a different weapons configuration. Otherwise, they are one in the same. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 13:15, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)
      • They are the same in the sense that X-Wings and the Y-Wings are the same, i.e not. VT-16 19:04, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)
        • That's not true. The HMP and the MAF have the same "body" configuration as each other, minus the weapons configuration, and the fact that the MAF had pilots, something the HMP doesn't have. The X-wing and Y-wing are two completely different vehicles with different "body" configurations. But when you get down to the basics, they are practically the same thing. The HMP is just a variation of the MAF. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 19:08, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)
          • Ok, let´s look at the stats:
MAF: Manufacturer: Haor Chall Engineering, Length: 18.2 meters, Max Speed (in standard atmosphere): 820 km/h, Armament: 1 cannon turret, 2 beam cannons, rockets, Crew: Pilot (1), Co-Pilot (1), Gunner (1)
HMP: Manufacturer: Baktoid Fleet Ordnance, Length: 12.3 meters, Max Speed (in standard atmosphere): 14,200 km/h (can take pressures of 100G), Armament: 2 laser cannon turrets, 1 medium laser cannon, 2 light laser cannons, 14 missiles (default configuration), Crew: Integrated droid brain
Having a saucer-shaped rear-body does not mean they are the same craft, as I have proved above. Please don´t make this a big issue. VT-16 09:45, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)
  • Fine, you've convinced me, although I already knew those stats. But the HMP looks a lot like a modified variation of the MAF. You have to admit that. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 14:05, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)
    • True, there probably was some input between Haor Chall and Baktoid, or one studied the works of the other. The main thing though, is that the atmospheric speed of the HMP is comparable to fighters, not gunships like the MAF and LAAT. This is a bit strange since the HMP is more heavily armed than the MAF, though I suspect they´ve considered a higher speed due to the automation. VT-16 18:18, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Speed? Edit

I don't believe it could travel about ten times as fast as A-Wings and TIE fighters. What do you think? -Aiddat 19:39, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

LAAT vs HMP Edit

  • I was just wondering, what is superior: the LAAT, or the HMP? Although the HMP cannot carry troops, I think it's more heavily armed than LAATs, and is faster and less of a large target. This may sound like idle discussion, but I think that this topic could be incorporated into the article in some way. Unit 8311 12:32, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
    • I don't think so. Unless a source says that one was better than the other, all we can do is guess. Remember, it's not always down to weapons and speed when trying to say which one is superior. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 13:54, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

14,200kmh is Sluggish Airspeed? Edit

OK, in the characteristics section of the article it says "the droid gunship compensated for its sluggish airspeed with a powerful arsenal of weaponry," but in the statistics it gives the speed as 14,200kmh. Obviously this is a contradiction within the article, so which is right and which is wrong? What are the sources? I'm inclined to believe that the 14,200kmh is wrong, just because it seems way too fast, but I don't have ICS, so I don't want to just change it. Doluk 17:17, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Sadly this figure is right. ICS likes to have their droid crafts go... fast. The Droid Tri being another instance of this. Nex Terren 05:44, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

CIS transport? Edit

I've always pictured this as the CIS equivalent to the LAAT for transporting troops into battle, as it was used in Battlefront. If so, could it have any relation to the droid dipsensers seen in Republic COmmando? Unsigned comment by 75.67.152.56 (talk • contribs).

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Can someone put up a Vector type image of the triple-circle logo? They have it in the lego version, you could convert it. Unsigned comment by Governor Jerjerrod (talk • contribs).

Pilot?Edit

Shouldn't it be mentioned in the article whether this thing is piloted by a battle droid or whether it has a built in droid brain? (I would do it myself, but I don't know which is true)Sonic-Toad 01:53, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi Sonic-Toad, i would put it in too but i'm new and don't know how to do anything. But yeah it's pretty well established that the HMP is an automated craft, the cross-section in the article especially confirms that, but of course Battlefront II space levels feature HMP as boarding craft and it requires a droid pilot, but remember that the tri-droid and vulture droid also require pilots while every other canon source says no, they are automated droid brains. Blame it on game mechanics. You can play as a clone pilot or marine and take a vulture droid for a spin if you lose your own craft in the hanger, but canon wise i don't know where you'd squeeze a clone inside one of them, much less a place with adequete life support as i remember the clone space pilots Episode 3 style can only survive for a little while outside spacecraft. So yeah the gameplay mechanics are a little off-canon in Battlefront II, a lot of video games can be, but unless their is a variant out there that i'm unaware of all HMPs have automated droid brains. This woefully off-topic rant brought to you by AThousandGooglyEyeballs 05:28, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Move to "HMP Predator"? Edit

If this ship is now identified in a T-canon script (Tipping Points) as an "HMP Predator", shouldn't the page be moved? Or is scripted info that doesn't make it to screen not considered solid enough? — DigiFluid(Whine here) 19:25, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

  • The different canon levels tend to be inconsistent and shouldn't be relied upon when looking at alternate names. "Heavy Missile Platform droid gunship" is still the full, official name, and that's where the article should stay; any other (shorter) names can be noted and bolded in the intro. CC7567 (talk) 19:30, October 30, 2012 (UTC)
    • That's the thing though—is it still the full official name? The current page name is as it is according to a C-canon source, correct? But if the ship has a new name according to a T-canon-level source, shouldn't that name trump the C-canon name? Qualifier: I'm a bit muddy on whether scripted stuff that doesn't make it to screen counts as canon. — DigiFluid(Whine here) 17:32, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
    • To me it seems that the slideshow is referring to only those in the episode as "Predators." Corellian PremierRobotechAll along the watchtower 22:38, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

5.1 Added/changed infobox Edit

I feel this needs to be re-added to the list of major vehicles of the CIS. Unsigned comment by 23.115.50.0 (talk • contribs).

Passengers Edit

The droid deployment racks should either have their own mini-page for capacity or that capacity should be included in the gunships stats. The fact that 12 SBDs are passengers in the Battle for scipio on each HMP is a fact that you editors like to tout as cannon from TCW Crisis of the Heart. Pick one and stop undoing reasonable edits.--68.224.14.253 17:22, July 22, 2015 (UTC)Dak

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