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Jango's planet of origin (+ Mandalorian or not) Edit

While Star Wars Journeys: Beginnings states that Jango Fett hails from Concord Dawn, Sabine Wren's factsheet in Star Wars Rebels Magazine 2 states that "Sabine is 16-yers-old and comes from the planet Mandalore, which is the same planet that Boba and Jango Fett come from." The same issue gives Sabine's species as "Mandalorian." If that much is true, then it means Almec was wrong, ang Jango Fett IS indeed as Mandalorian (just one the Prime Minister won't acknowledge as such). --LelalMekha (talk) 15:03, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

  • I question whether that magazine can be a canon source and what the actual Lucasfilm involvement is. I would be very wary about using it as a source. Boba being from Mandalore is just outright wrong, considering he's a clone. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 15:40, March 5, 2015 (UTC)
    • Isn't everything Rebels canon by default? The Rebels-verse does not exist in Legends, after all. And those magazines have been created well after the 2014 canon reboot. For one thing, Martin Fisher says that his Rebels comics are canon. --LelalMekha (talk) 15:49, March 5, 2015 (UTC)
      • Canon and Legends aren't the only two options, of course. There's also "no canon." There are lots of things that just have no canonicity status one way or another. The comic being canon is fair. However, over half of the info you quoted from the magazine is either an apparent contradiction (Jango's planet of origin) or just wrong (Mandalorian is not a species, and Boba is not from Mandalore) that I question whether that information is actually being vetted and approved by Lucasfilm. The short story can be canon without the rest of the magazine being a vetted canon source. I would not treat anything other than the short story as a canon source until we know more about this magazine's relationship with Lucasfilm. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 15:56, March 5, 2015 (UTC)
        • Then we'll have to wait forever it seems. Their new communications policy is to never confirm or deny anything, apparently. I will, however, index those articles here, even if we don't add anything from them in the individual entries. --LelalMekha (talk) 16:01, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

Jango is not a confirmed MandalorianEdit

Thus I say we remove the Mandalorian from the Category sections.

Did the Databank just confirm that Jango *is* a Mandalorian? Edit

The Databank entry for the Z-6 jetpack says: "The Z-6 Jetpack was the preferred jetpack of Mandalorian commandos across the galaxy, from the more organized sects like Death Watch to the outliers on the fringe, like Jango Fett and Boba Fett." This implies that Jango and Boba are Mandalorian commandos... --LelalMekha (talk) 12:03, January 16, 2016 (UTC)

  • Either it's an error, or some people are going to be very happy. Maybe we should reach out to Pablo. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 18:29, January 16, 2016 (UTC)
    • Certainly doesn't look like an error, as the databank entry has a photo of Boba representing it and a video of Jango's fight with Obi-Wan (Episode II) to show off the jetpack. VDO talk 18:33, January 16, 2016 (UTC)
      • I don't believe it's referring to him as a Mandalorian, because if you look at the "Affiliations" it says it's affiliated with "Death Watch, Bounty Hunters". Jango Fett(and Boba by extension) have no known affiliation to Death Watch. I think it's just a poorly worded statement or partially misinformed. We should try asking Pablo, since he previously stated that the idea of Jango and Boba being Mandalorians was "outdated".--216.249.68.9 03:05, January 20, 2016 (UTC)
  • The Databank entry definitely confirms both Jango and Boba as Mandalorians. It's not poorly worded at all, but rather quite specific. The structure of the sentence, using "from" and "to" the way it does, groups both Death Watch and the Fetts under the original heading of Mandalorian commandos. I'll grant that it's odd that it's the entry for their jetpack of all things that jumps their Mandalorian status over from Legends to Canon after prior vaguery, but the Databank is a canon source and all information therein should be assumed legitimate unless otherwise specified. Bella'Mia (talk) 06:19, January 23, 2016 (UTC)
    • Pablo Hidalgo has already stated here that Boba is not a Mandalorian, so there's already a discrepancy with the information provided. It's best we wait for a more substantial source clarifying their status, or possibly asking Pablo himself to clear this up. Ruthless XeroClanOrdo(Talk) 06:28, January 23, 2016 (UTC)
      • Just to chime in here, there is no "more substantial source" than Pablo Hidalgo. He is a creative executive on the Lucasfilm Story Group. That means as far as canon is concerned, he is effectively the Word of God. He trumps whatever the StarWars.com Databank says. You don't need to ask him to clarify what he's already stated. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 06:32, January 23, 2016 (UTC)
        • It is worth noting that Pablo specifically says "don't cite tweets as canon". A new story would override his tweets. He is also not omniscient nor in sole total control over directions of stories. I take his meaning to be that there is no current story establishing them to be Mandalorians so they effectively aren't. Not that they can't ever be established as mandalorians. Besides it seems obvious to me that Jango was created as a Mandalorian considering the mandalorian writing in Slave I. I think any mention should be removed for now. --69.124.107.42 06:29, February 2, 2016 (UTC)
      • Oh, wonderful. Well, thanks for bringing that to my attention, Xero, I wasn't aware he'd already muddied the waters beforehand. I'm still of the opinion that we should heed the more recent source, but with the increasingly tangled mess things have become, I can't exactly sit back and pretend there's an obviousness that clearly doesn't exist. Appreciate the heads up. Bella'Mia (talk) 06:40, January 23, 2016 (UTC)
        • It's important to remember too that the Databank is written by the StarWars.com team and covers existing information, so it's not generally meant to be a new source of info (though sometimes new information is provided to StarWars.com, of course). I'd wager it's not a Story Group-vetted project either. It's not above having a mistake here and there because of that. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 15:33, January 23, 2016 (UTC)
          • Possible reconciliation: Boba isn't Mandalorian, Jango is. Jango is canonically from Concord Dawn, a Mandalorian Colony (hence him being distanced from the New Mandalorians on Mandalore). That's where he got his armor and that's where he got his heritage. Boba on the other hand is Jango's clone, Just like Rex, Fives, etc. As such, he's not really Mandalorian. His template has that heritage, and he probably learned more of it than his brothers did, but seeing as how he lost his dad really early on, I'd say not enough of it to really count. As such, Jango is an Mando, Boba isn't. 168.178.73.103 04:45, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

Need confirmation on this as other sources say he was/is a mandalorian Edit

" Fett wore a set of Mandalorian armor as a bounty hunter, though he was considered a pretender by the New Mandalorian government of Mandalore. " Yeah I'm gonna have to have a reference and source to that. And if added already put a tool tip next to it that says which source/ref it is

  • It's from "The Mandalore Plot." We don't add references to introduction sections. That information can be added to the biography. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 18:34, March 4, 2016 (UTC)
    • Where did the word 'pretender' come from? I don't remember that word being used exactly. --Tuskin38 (talk) 22:38, April 26, 2017 (UTC)

Not from Concord Dawn Edit

Star Wars Character Encyclopedia: Updated and Expanded claims that Jango's homeworld is unknown. I followed it up with Pablo on Twitter and he relied with [1]. It seems that Jango only claimed he was from Concord Dawn, which lines up with Almec statement that he wasn't a Mando. It also seems that Rako has been confirmed as a Mando. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 05:08, April 6, 2016 (UTC)

  • I highly doubt that Jango isn't a Mando, but I changed the statement to say "allegedly", seeing as he claimed he was from Concord Dawn, and his in-universe word is good enough to merit a mention since it is the closest thing we have at the moment to a third-person source concerning his origins. Darth Ravigious (talk) 05:14, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
    • Jango Fett is not a Mandalorian. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 05:16, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
      • That's stupid and makes me mad, but I stand corrected. Fixed his page to "he claimed to be from Concord Dawn" btw Darth Ravigious (talk) 05:22, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
        • This change further solidifies that he isn't Mandalorian IU, however, and is a pretty cool link to Almec's comment. It seems like he was a pretender. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 05:26, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
          • Being born on the planet of Concord Dawn, it is still very likely that he was BORN Mandalorian and his backstory will be revealed in the future. Remember that Mandalore is a culture with high standards. Since the New Mandalorians became peace loving hippies, they could have exiled Fett and stripped his Mandalorian name. Remember, Mandalorian is a culture and way of life. I guess you could compare it to a religion, and he was excomunicated. Mandalorians are weird like that. But enough speculating, lets just wait for a Jango comic already. Darth Ravigious (talk) 05:32, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
            • The point Pablo is making is that Jango's claims to be from Concord Dawn are likely BS. Mandalorians are a culture in canon, yes, but they're a culture from a specific group of planets. They are not the Legends Mandalorians, where it was a way of life anyone can adopt. All of this combined is why this page reflects that Jango is not a Mandalorian. To steal a phrase from Star Wars, when it comes to canon, you have to unlearn everything you learned from Legends. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 05:33, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
              • So by extension, his being from Concord Dawn is also definitely false. Should we certify that in the article or is the "allegedly" good for now? Darth Ravigious (talk) 05:36, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
                • Pablo says it's unlikely, not that it isn't true. So while it's likely not true, we can keep any statements saying he claimed to be from there. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 05:44, April 6, 2016 (UTC)

Too many things named Mandalore/Mandalorian Edit

Possible solution to the Mandalorian issue. we are told he is not mandalorian, but he is frequently referred to as such, especially in regards to his equipment and fighting style. Since the reason we are being told he is not Mandalorian is due to his world of origin being Concord Dawn, yet we see other worlds (like kalevala) where the inhabitants are called mandalorians, i believe what is happening is that the Mandalorian race/ethnicity (that branch of humanity that originated on mandalore the planet, and colonized a bunch of others) is being confused with the Mandalorian Cultural/Philosophical construct. Since both are called the exact same thing, it would be easy to mix them up. So Jango (and by extension Boba and the Clones) would not be Mandalorian ethnicity (instead possibly some native Concord Dawn ethnicity), but Jango had been trained and raised to follow the Mandalorian traditions, including their military traditions. So from the standpoint of the 'New mandalorians' and the Deathwatch, who were of the Mandalore ethnicity, Jango is not a mandalorian. although he very clearly followed their social and philosophical traditions. Mithril (talk) 21:34, December 7, 2017 (UTC)

  • Interesting, but it's still speculation. JRT2010 (talk) 00:06, December 8, 2017 (UTC)
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