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"For over a thousand generations" Edit

I think it should be noted that the Jedi were around for at least 20,000 before the Battle of Yavin, due to Obi Wan's quotation "For over a thousand generations, the Jedi were guardians of the Old Republic". A generation is commonly accepted to be twenty years. This quote also implies that the Old Republic was founded over 20,000 years before the rise of the Empire. This REALLY needs to be taken into account. Darth Ravigious (talk) 03:18, April 6, 2016 (UTC)

  • Well, let me play devil's advocate here. Considering that Legends isn't a factor, do we really know that the Jedi Order was around for a thousand generations? The Jedi as a philosophy, way of life, skill set, etc may have been around for a thousand generations, but maybe the Jedi Order itself is only a few thousand years old? Maybe it took a long time for any sort of formalized Order to spring up. Remember, Obi-Wan never said anything about the Jedi Order, just the Jedi. It wasn't until Episode I that we saw a canonical introduction to a formalized Jedi Order. So there are different directions that the official canon story could take. Given that, we shouldn't say that the Jedi Order was around for at least 20,000 years. That may not be true. We also shouldn't make any judgements about how long the Old Republic has been around. Canon has already shown us that there's the Old Republic and the Galactic Republic. So we shouldn't read much into Obi-Wan's line. The Star Wars story has evolved since Episode IV, and our assumptions could be incorrect. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 03:52, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
    • Ah. Alright. Just bringing it up. It was just one of those things that popped into my head all of a sudden and made me wonder. Hmm, that being the case, what of the Jedi article, seeing as the concept of "Jedi" is more along the idea of ideals as opposed to the concept of establishment (seeing as the comparison you implied is more akin to the difference between a man of chivalry and the member of an order of knights with a chivalric code, which I agree with)? Darth Ravigious (talk) 04:28, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
      • I would use the exact wording Obi-Wan does: "for over a thousand generations." I wouldn't apply real world numbers to it. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 04:33, April 6, 2016 (UTC)

Jedi vs Jedi OrderEdit

Since Jedi Crusader and Ordu Aspectu are affiliated with the Jedi and not the Jedi Order, would we include Jedi in the infobox under the members or sub-unit section as "Jedi" and "Jedi Order" are not the same, rather the Jedi are members of the Jedi Order?--Vitus InfinitusTalk 00:40, February 12, 2018 (UTC)

  • I should've looked better. Jedi Order is a sub-unit of the Jedi, it's all good now.--Vitus InfinitusTalk 00:43, February 12, 2018 (UTC)

members of the orderEdit

can we add members section of the jedi order page? (Mrjosh1994 (talk) 21:43, May 6, 2018 (UTC))

Possible Merge between Jedi and Jedi OrderEdit

This question was asked months ago on the Jedi article's talk page that no one responded to, but why are there separate articles for "Jedi" and "Jedi Order"? No distinction is made between the "Sith" and "Sith Order." Most of the information in the "Jedi" article can easily be merged into the "Jedi Order" page. I suppose one might argue that there was no "Jedi Order" after Order 66, just a few "Jedi" survivors. However, Luke Skywalker's databank article lists "Jedi Order" among his affiliations, thereby confirming that the Jedi Order never fully died out during the Imperial Era in spite of the Sith's efforts. Without a canon source to confirm that "Jedi" and "Jedi Order" are separate, I believe that the former should be merged into the latter's page. JRT2010 (talk) 05:33, June 11, 2018 (UTC)

  • I'd suggest starting a Senate Hall conversation about this, since there are implications beyond this page. For example, we also have Jedi/Legends and Jedi Order/Legends. In that case I think it definitely makes more sense to have two separate pages since Legends also had the New Jedi Order, but it's worth having a more comprehensive conversation in a centralized place IMO. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 05:37, June 11, 2018 (UTC)
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