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Why she gave up Maul, not Savage Edit

Maybe Savage was Mauls younger brother, and was not born yet. Anyone ver thing of that?--Jet Twilights 15:01, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

  • It's implied in the Plagueis novel that Savage was alive at the time when Maul was given to Darth Sidious. While Savage was not specifically mentioned in the book, the mother told Sidious that she had two sons and that she wanted at least one of them to live beyond the life of a Nightbrother. JRT2010 15:11, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Savage and Feral Edit

Shoudln't the article include that she was also the mother of Savage Opress and Feral? Ressor 18:14, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

  • The book vaguely refers to Maul's brother, but does not specifically state whether it's Savage or Feral. JRT2010 22:26, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
    • But aren't they both his brothers? The Clone Wars states that Savage is Maul's brother, and it also states that Feral is Savage's brother, so it must mean that they are all brothers, hence Kycina is the mother of all three... Ressor 22:38, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
      • Well, come to think of it, the fact that Maul's father was killed right after his birth means that Kycina would have to be the mother of Savage and Feral in order for them to be Maul's blood brothers at all. JRT2010 22:55, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
        • So is it ok to change it? Ressor 23:03, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
          • I don't know. Even though it's the only logical solution there is—those three can't be brothers by blood without at least one common parent—there is no source (that I'm aware of) that explicitly refers to Kycina as the mother of Savage and Feral. That's the only way I can see someone giving you a hard time for editing the article as such. JRT2010 23:10, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
            • To be honest, if the other member of the "half-clan pair" (from Darth Plagueis) isn't identified, we can't make assumptions on who it is. It could be Savage or Feral, yes, but it could also be another Nightbrother we've never even heard of. It's also possible, as has already been pointed out, that Kycina had Opress and Feral by another father besides that of Maul. We need to wait for direct confirmation before attributing family relations like this, though I do wish they had been more specific in the first place. CC7567 (talk) 03:28, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
              • Restraint shows us that Kycina is indeed the mother of all three. Ressor 10:58, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

Human? Edit

So, Darth Maul was half-human?--Gonzalo84 05:12, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

  • In Kycina's scene, yes, but after generations of cross breeding between Zabrak and Humans, of course there should have been a biological difference. This is an example of incontinuity of Maul's parentage. If you search around the various pages for Nightsisters, Zabrak, Dathomirian Zabrak, etc, you'll find the evidence. Red Heathen (talk) 01:58, January 23, 2020 (UTC)

Sidious DID begin Maul's training in secret Edit

I updated the page to reflect that, although Plagueis instructed Sidious to only train Maul as a Sith assassin, Sidious did begin Maul's training in secret. Here is the excerpt: "During the long period between the Gran's sneak attack and the first Gathering of the new era, Sidious had spoken with Plagueis only by holo. Left to progress on his own, he had trained the Zabrak in secret…" Red Heathen (talk) 01:54, January 23, 2020 (UTC)

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