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A New Hope

I am puzzled by the listing of RoTJ as the first appearance of this, as I distinctly recall the mind probe being mentioned in A New Hope... Vader said "it will take some time for the mind probe to extract any information" Right? isnt that a thing that happened? Like seconds before Tarkin decided to blow up alderaan. IF this is not that, then why is this also called a mind probe... is that a different thing mentioned in ANH?

TL;DR this was mentioned in ANH before RoTjralok (talk) 06:13, January 27, 2016 (UTC)

This ability was used in The Phantom Menace and ROTJ. There should be mention of the technique's use in those movies in the history section, respectively.

--Darth Vyos (talk) 20:26, February 1, 2016 (UTC)

Possible conflation of topics?

It seems rather odd to me that a number of other abilities are being included under the Mind Probe Force power name. We have two clear examples of Force based mind reading, Kylo Ren in TFA, and Maul in Rebels S3E2 (shown in the episode's trailer.) Both of those times, the Force user made the same gesture, placing their hand an inch or two away from the target's head, and were able to access the target's memories. The listed "use" in TPM isn't the same sort of mind reading, as the Jedi did not actually read Anakin's memories, merely his emotional state.

The Grand Inquisitor, upon reviewing the relevant scene, says that Jedi are trained to resist mind probes, referring to the interrogation droid Tarkin and Kallus had been using on Kanan immediately prior to his (the Inquisitor's) arrival, an interrogation droid that is clearly of the same type used by Vader on Princess Leia in ANH. The Grand Inquisitor then says that Jedi are not immune to pain, and proceeds to use the Force to cause Kanan pain while verbally questioning him, not pulling the memories directly from his mind as Maul and Kylo Ren did when using this Force power.

Moving on to ANH, the use of the interrogation droid, which is called a mind probe in the movie, is again identified as a Force power by this page.

The page also claims that Vader's use of the Force to detect Luke's emotions in RotJ, betraying the existence of his sister, was a use of this ability, when it was clearly the same sort of empathic sense that the Jedi Council used to sense Anakin's emotions in TPM, or Obi-Wan's sensing of the destruction of Alderaan. As I recall, Vader outright says "Your emotions betray you", indicating that Vader was reading Luke's emotions, not his memories.

If someone is willing to second this, I think this page should be rewritten, as it currently is very inaccurate, in my opinion. I'd just like confirmation that someone else thinks my understanding is correct before going and ripping out huge swaths of the page. Jorlem (talk) 10:42, September 29, 2016 (UTC)

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