How'd they know?Edit
How did Obi-Wan and Yoda know?
One thing that's never been quite explained in the EU or in the films is how Obi-Wan and Yoda are aware of the Lars family, unless I'm mistaken. Is it possible that Anakin at some point during the Clone Wars had to account for his being on Tatooine, and explained to Obi-Wan and Yoda at least an edited version of events (I presume he left out the Tusken slaughter)? In the novelization of ROTS Obi-Wan also seems to have knowledge of Shmi's death as well. Either that or he returned to Tatooine at some point during the wars, and they found out that way. Perhaps the Clone Wars CG series will explain this.
I've removed this quote again because it makes no sense (unless Luke thinks to himself in third person). Can you please provide an exact source for this quote so that we might fix it? -- Ozzel 19:17, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
well if you have read the new jedi order series you will see that in the novel: Star Wars: The New Jedi Order: Edge Of Victory 2 Rebirth. there you will read the quote.
if i remember correctly it was when he was talking about his time on tatooine as a boy and that led on to the larses. wich in the book that quote is written so if you'lle excuse me when i put it back.- Galedze
- Okay, I've looked it up, and that is correct. They are Luke's thoughts, but they are written in the narration, and not from Luke's point-of-view. To credit it to him, as it is now, doesn't make sense. I think the best thing to do is just come up with better quotes. And regardless, I don't think the same quote should be used on both of their pages. So I say we continue this with Beru (who doesn't have a better quote at the moment). -- Ozzel 21:24, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- fair enough, but i think it is better to credit: Luke Skywalker's thoughts, because else you need to put: Anakin Skywalker may be.... - Greg Keyes ( the writer of the novel as you known but i just say this with it for the people who don't know it :p ) so but ok. i'll remove it from Owen and let it stay but Beru because let's face it it is a nice quote it really shows the importance of the larses in some ways :p - Galedze
I'm not sure the image of Vader giving the execution orders is actually canon.--Darth Oblivion 02:37, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Why wouldn't it be? -- Ozzel 03:33, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Captain Mod Terrik made the decision to execute them.--Darth Oblivion 01:56, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
- It's apparentley from a canon source. Also, having just read the part of When the Desert Wind Turns dealing with the Larses, there seems to be enough "room" for Terrick to have been ordered by Vader to order the execution. I have to admit though, that I liked the idea of Terrick doing it on his own initiative, but that's just me. Muuuuuurgh 06:34, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
- Slave Ship, isn't it? I'm not sure, as I haven't read it, but I seem to recall as much from the back cover blurb. -- Ozzel 05:47, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- This was an elaborate plot, I forget by whom as it's been awhile since I've read the book, but Xizor was not connected to the Lars' deaths. RebelRogue 01:24, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Owen's age Edit
I don't know who put Owen's age in ANH as 42, but he is clearly older than that even accounting for bad aging on Tatooine. Joel Edgerton was in his mid to late 20s in AOTC and ROTS. I'd put Owen 48 to 50 in ANH at least. -—Unsigned comment by 22.214.171.124 (talk • contribs).
- That would be me, the same person who put an explanation next to it with a source that specifically gives his age. As Cliegg would say, "Accept it." -- Ozzel 23:29, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
But there is no source that dominates another, we have two books that say two different things. Joel Edgerton was 29 when filming EP3, add 19 years you get at least 48. 42 does not feel even close to right.-—Unsigned comment by 126.96.36.199 (talk • contribs).
- You haven't given a source, though, you've given an actor's age, which is often not reflected in the character they are portraying. See any teen drama on television (packed with folks in their mid-twenties) for confirmation of this fact. jSarek 10:58, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
I know that, that's why I am compromising, I am just stating there should be a happier medium, some middle ground, because the book sources conflict with each other, so we have the films to go by. Doesn't it seem much more comfortable to you that Owen was nearly 30 in ROTS, and around 50 in ANH? It sure does to me. Better yet, because the source materials conflict with each other, why not leave his age blank, as with Beru's entry? Just put the year of death. -—Unsigned comment by 188.8.131.52 (talk • contribs).
- FWIW, the EPIV script labels him "mid fifties", which is more in line with the ages of both Edgerton and Phil Brown, but, explicit references in the novel do take precedence, even though, IMO, Salvatore was really, really wrong here. For what it's worth, his description of Cliegg also involved hasting retconning. (It's the explanation for Cliegg moving to Ator, and then back again) QuentinGeorge 11:22, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- The age was actually in Denning's book... but anyway, Mr. 33, we cannot "compromise" on canon. You allude to some conflicting source, but you haven't named it. Tatooine Ghost gives his age, and so that's what it is. It doesn't matter if it feels wrong, or if the actors are older, or what anyone else wants it to be. That's what it is, and so we accept it. Beru doesn't have a birth year listed because no source has ever given us one. -- Ozzel 12:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Okay, so that's your angle. Well then, please read this. Learn it. Love it. Know it. In the mean time, this article will remain locked. -- Ozzel 23:33, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
I can "know it". But to me Owen is about 50 in ANH, if anyone happened to ask me his age, that's what I am going to tell them he is. No ONE line in ONE book is going to supercede the movies and what other books say. Just like the description of Jabba in the ANH novel.
- Well, you're certainly entitled to that opinion then, but you just can't apply it to Wookieepedia. -- Ozzel 16:55, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
The article currently includes a caption indicating that owen was in his early twenties as of AotC. However, the infobox gives his DOB as 52 BBY; this would make him thirty at the time. Guardian Assassin 20:42, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
Does anyone know what happened to the fact that Owen was a brother to Obi-Wan, as stated in Star Wars: The Essential Guide To Characters. MVPrimus
Anger Towards Obi-Wan Edit
I was just wondering if anyone can explain clearly why Owen has such a hatred for Obi-Wan? He looks like is happy to receive Luke as a child and then in Episode IV he all of a sudden thinks he is a foolish old man? ----Penguichaun 23:37, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- Twenty years of an overbearing "uncle" figure who gave the boy to them to raise, but still wants to connect with Luke. Amth (Enter my Mind) 23:54, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
Maybe they didn't want one (but took Luke in seeing they had no choice) or Owen was infertile-- 20:24, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
Can someone point me to a video showing Owen and Beru's execution, and perhaps the slaughter of the Jawas in A New Hope?--20:25, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
Owen and Beru's Skeletons... Edit
How did Owen and Beru's body become a skeleton when they were killed by those Stormtroopers in ANH? Were they being constantly bombarded with laser fire that their bodies just disintegrated? —Unsigned comment by 184.108.40.206 (talk • contribs).
- clearly stormtrooper fire exploded something, dead aunt and uncle's clothing caught fire, and burned away flesh. —Unsigned comment by 220.127.116.11 (talk • contribs).
"Their execution was ordered by Darth Vader, who watched it via hololink, feeling it was "revenge" for their supposed weakness, and "failure" to defend his mother."
Confused about this? The note said it was documented in A Stormtrooper's Tale. But the Mos Eisley collection was published in 1995, 4 years before TPH's release. How would anyone back then have known about Shmi's death? Or is there supposed to be some other reference that's missing?