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Is this not an article about the Empire that Adas founded in 28,000 BBY. He died in 27,700 BBY and I can see ether point that the empire fell right at his death or some time latter. but this article starts off saying the Empire began at his death, which is the same time as "the defeat of their Rakatan invaders under the leadership of Adas." Can we fix this. I will do so if no one objects.(68.222.155.243 20:39, July 15, 2010 (UTC))

There seems to be a few errors in this article. Evil Never Dies: The Sith Dynasties states

"But the Rakata soon showed their true colors and tried to conquer the Sith people. But even at that ripe age, the Sith King refused to go quietly and introduced the invaders to his oversized axe and the unconquerable will of his people. The dark siders were defeated, but the king gave his life to secure the Sith's freedom."

The source for this article, the Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide states

"Outsmarting the technologically superior invaders, Adas conquers the conquerors, sacrificing his life in the process. With the aliens' technology, the Sith prosper, colonizing nearby worlds and even banishing a group of pureblooded Sith as far away as Tund."

Not only was this Sith Empire founded after Adas died, but the source says nothing about it dissolving, especially after he died, considering it didn't exist yet. Perhaps more confusing though, Evil Never Dies also states

"After his death, King Adas' holocron passed to his "Shadow Hand," his trusted advisor and second in command. Without Adas' unifying influence, wars once again raged for rule of the Sith people, with the reigning combatants arrogantly claiming the title of Sith'ari, and eventually forcing a relocation of the Sith capitol to the planet Ziost."

I'll see if I can dig up anymore sources about Adas and the ancient Sith, and check the more obvious ones like Jedi vs Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force and The New Essential Chronology, as well as the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia, and see if there is a less contradictory narrative of the early Sith with which to fix the article. It could be that the Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide is a retcon for Evil Never Dies. Barringer Jedi symbol 02:52, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

  • I don't see the contradiction. Just because they thrive as a society and gain advancements in technology does not mean they also cant be fighting each other as well. As humans we fight in wars with each other all the time, yet society still learns new technology and pushes for exploration. In fact building new tech and pushing there boundary could be a way for one faction to one up the other, and would lead to them relocating to Ziost.I have always had more problems understanding Adas's age. how can he be 300 when he kicks out the Rakata, and also have ruled for 300 years. He died fighting them so that means he became ruler at birth, after he fought wars to unify his people???(66.156.212.15 16:06, July 7, 2010 (UTC))
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