Could the Star Forge be considered a superweapon? I mean, it's big, it operates on a massive scale, it creates enough firepower to keep the galaxy at bay, it generates the Dark Side...Kuralyov 03:43, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)
It dosnt generate the darkside. It has the essence of the dark side.
- I have another question. Is the Star Forge like an ancient version of the World Destroyers? It draws sources and energy from a nearby star, it manufactures massive amounts of starfighters (possibly capital ships). However, it doesn't seem as portable and well shielded. How long is it, longer than Centerpoint Station or DSII? Gwai Lo 18:28, 3 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- The Star Forge itself is not a weapon any more than a plant assembling Winchester rifles is a weapon. However, we see in KOTOR that Malak used the Star Forge to trap the essence of Jedi, preventing them from becoming one with the Force. Whether or not that classifies the Star Forge as a weapon, I'm not sure. My personal opinion on the matter is that the Star Forge is nothing more than a factory that responds to a strong presence in the dark side.
Well it can indirectly destroy planets with the ships it makes.Take Taris for example.The planet was destroyed by ships made by the Star Forge. Malak 18:44, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, but is Kuat Drive Yards a superweapon due to the ships it produced? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 20:18, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
No, it's not really a weapon. It relied more on a huge-ass defense than a planet-destroying offense such as the Death Star. As with the statement above, it indirectly destroys planets with it's massive ship construction, but that's about it. The little turbolasers it has around the fins serve more as a defense, and not a very good one. The lasers are moderately accurate, and are more suited for very small ships, like those two little Jedi landers that got blown the hell out of in the KotOR cutscene. 18.104.22.168 06:56, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Is there other evidence of Ajunta Pall hinting at Ancient Sith using it? Edit
All I seem to recall Pall saying they the Sith turned on each other. Was this mentioned in the NEC? 22.214.171.124 13:22, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
I find it hard to belive that the Ancient Sith used the star forge because how could they have found it if the Star Map was destroyed.
Do you think Star Force should be in italics? I'm not sure, but I tend to lean towards no. - TopAce 19:49, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
- No. It's the same as Death Star, Sun Crusher, etc. No italics. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 20:24, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Powered by a star, yet also the Dark Side Edit
I read that it was powered by a star, yet I also read that it's powered by the Dark Side of the Force. Are you telling me that the Rakatan star is the source, i.e. the origination point, of all of the dark side that plagues the galaxy? The good guys would certainly want to destroy this star as soon as they knew this for sure! (The Galaxy Gun is the one that can destroy stars, right? Or was it some other superweapon?) --126.96.36.199 11:30, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- No. QuentinGeorge 11:33, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- It was powered by both. Stars contain many metallic resources, I believe. It was also semi-sentient. It's creators were pretty corrupted, and it eventually started to feed on that. 188.8.131.52 06:51, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
- Did it draw any power from the star, or just raw material? I mean this is super-technology even in StarWars, it's not inconceivable that the Starforge is capable of converting raw hydrogen into denser elements. then use them as raw material. The Force however hasn't (to my knowledge) been used to create matter.
Also, the Galaxy Gun destroyed planets by firing a hyperspace projectile at them. The one that kills stars is the Sun Crusher, still some 4000+ years in the future.--184.108.40.206 12:36, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
- My personal conclusion has been that the Star Forge was essentially a massive implementation of matter replication technology similar to that used by replicators in Star Trek; it converts Dark Side energy into matter (when both Malak and corrupted Bastila are on the Star Forge, its replication efficiency jumps leaps and bounds. This could also be attributed to the captured Jedi from dantooine being corrupted). It would use Lehon's sun to power its other systems (orbital stabilizers, life support, laser cannons, etc.). --220.127.116.11 01:35, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- Relatively how large was the Star Forge supposed to be? When you see it with the star it looks much larger than average terrestrial planets, but I think its supposed to be smaller than Rakata Prime.--Darth Oblivion 18:19, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
- "That's no moon. It's a space station.
It's too big to be a space station."
- ―Someone really famous
- I know this is old but I always assumed it was about 12 km long. Chack Jadson 20:24, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
- I always just assumed it was about the same size as the first Death Star since there is no cannon source about it's size! ~ Awar 21:40, 13 May 2008 (UTC).
Well actually there is a way to tell how big it is;(Approximately anyway) first you find out haw big the radis/diamiter of a 30,000 year old star is suppose to be(excluding red giant size because it's obviously, it's not one of those) then you take a protractor and the picture of the star-forge, the one with the star at the bottom of it, and enlarge it until it's (the star in the picture) outer edge and the outer edge of the protractor are the same size, take the angle measurement and use it to determine the approximate length of one one pixie(this is the relative length in the pic) I advise you to do this measurement in kilometers or something bigger... I'm serious, do it in measurements of 1000 kilometers(sorry cant remember the name of that measurement) --> Posted by Numbers (not a/the user) Bye.
There's no canon source depicting the Star Forge's size or dimensions. The only example of possible scale is in KOTOR when a task force of Hammerhead cruisers shoots at it. Flying in between it's massive fins above. Being 315 meters long and using the hammerhead as a reference ruler, it's safe to say the Star Forge is over 6,000 meters in diameter maybe 10 kilometers wide. Thus up to 25,000 meters in height.
Wasn't the dark side story in kotor the canocial?? Edit
because kotor II story wouldn't make any sense if revan would come back to the jedi order...
- Both endings are left open in KotORII, but the canonical one is the light side storyline. - TopAce 13:36, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
In both the light side and dark side story arcs of the KotOR games Revan goes off on a merry little sabbatical to the unknown regions. What exactly he's doing there, we won't know until if/when KotOR III comes out, or failing that, someone at LA explains what the deal is. I get the feeling he's not out there seducing green women, 'cause the GFFA already has plenty of those.--Goodwood 19:04, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- light side is canonical, if he turned dark side, the star forge would have be destroyed before KotOR II. Otherwise, the sith empire wouldn't be collapsing. Its worth noting that, if you view bastila's sith holocron on dark side in KotOR II, she says that more of revan's memories came back and he, ashamed of them, went into exile. --18.104.22.168 01:44, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Crew Members Edit
How many Dark Jedi, War Droids, Sith apprentices, and Sith Heavy Troopers are on the station during the Jedi Civil War?
I think I cleaned it up pretty well. Could someone check it again?--Smuggler Freak 00:34, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I thought the star forge was about the size of 3 super star destroyers.
- 57 Km? Geez. I'd say it's about 12 km. Chack Jadson 23:17, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh no no no the Star Forge is much bigger. It could could likely hold the Death Star in one of its larger hangers.
Dude by ruff estimate it has to be well over the size of 20 planets the size of earth, probably 50 or 60, and that's just the sphere part, for reference see the size of a star, then compare it to how much of an arc is in the star that's in the star-forge picture, the percentage of that arc is the ~equal of the same percentage of the length of the star's diameter that the star-forge... you should be able to just look at the numbers at this point and estimate... so much bigger then the Death star.
Is the SF the Sith symbol? Edit
Playing through KOTOR the symbol of the Sith looks very much like the Star Forge, should that be added to the article perhaps? 22.214.171.124 16:15, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Obviously I'm not saying the Star Forge would be intact within the scope of any books, but doesn't this thing regenerate like all Rakatan shit? I have serious doubts in the ability of the Republic Fleet to destroy it so thoroughly it can't repair, even if it did fall into a star. --Joseph Leito 23:03, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, Knights of the Old Republic did say that items created by the Rakata could regenerate, if they were damaged. But the Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide says that Revan and the Republic were responsible for the destruction of the Star Forge. I believe that is the crucial difference. The Star Maps weren't destroyed, only damaged, and even then it took some 20,000+ years for them to partially regenerate. Cylka-talk- 23:16, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
- i think that this will be used as part of the storyline for kotor online or kotor 3Sithrebel 06:33, March 12, 2010 (UTC)
- Though it is true that the Star Forge could regenerate like the Star Maps, you have to remember that when the Republic destroyed it they took out the main orbital stabilizers. What does this mean? It means that most of the larger pieces fell into the Sun. So you shouldn't be asking can it regenerate, you should be asking, does it have enough of itself to regenerate? I would say no because of two reasons, 1. It definitely doesn't have most of its pieces so it can't regenerate into another Star Forge. 2. I doubt the pieces that were blown into space in all different directions could find there way back together. Plus when the Rakata sabatoged the Star Maps, I don't think they blew them up, I think they just tried to destroy the inner workings of them, because I doubt the Star Maps could've pieced themselves back together. —Unsigned comment by VadersFist666 (talk • contribs).
- In Darth Bane Path of Destruction Bane travels to the Rakatan System and it says there that metal debris had fused together around the planet. Its possible that the remains attempted to repair themselves but were unable to fully because the vast majority of the Star Forge fell into the sun. User:Prince-Admiral 9:27, January 7, 2011 (UTC)
My friend and I am in a surtain discussion, about what happend to the coordinates of the Lehon system. Forgotten or either deleted or saved for so long?
What kinds of ships/droids does the Star Forge create? Edit
Obviously (Darth) Revan and Darth Malak used the Star Forge as a factory for the Sith Empire's armies and navies, but what kinds of ships/droids do the Star Forge create? Do they create Rakatan ships/droids? Can it be "told" what kind of ships/droids to create? BleedingEffect 15:53, March 31, 2011 (UTC)
yes it can be "told" what to create because the leviathan was created by the republic but the star forge copied it and then mass produced it to make the sith fleet and on the rakata wiki page it says that it could create anything the rakata desired.—Unsigned comment by 126.96.36.199 (talk • contribs).
Custom Pictures Edit
Pictures which are self-made or anything related to it are no real source, if someone tries to upload a custom picture again i'll ask the admins to ban him or her. —Unsigned comment by ShenLong Kazama (talk • contribs).
- If you are refering to the image you removed, then I would suggest clicking on the image in question and looking at the sourcing information. The image apparently comes from Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi 0, and is an official image. Also, please sign all posts on talk pages and forums with four tildes like so: ~~~~. - Cavalier One(Squadron channel) 08:44, February 3, 2012 (UTC)