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Wait, there seems to be some confusion over which AT-ST it is that Chewie commandeers. Everything I've read says Robert Watts and Richard Marquand play the two AT-ST drivers shown in the film in the walker that Chewie and the Ewoks take control of, which, according to this, is Tempest Scout 3. But on their pages, Watts and Marquand are identified as the pilots of Tempest Scout 2. What gives? Except for the guy Leia shoots (which is a whole problem unto itself, considering the walker he's atop is the one Chewie gets later), those two are the only AT-ST drivers we see onscreen, meaning they must be the ones played by Robert Watts and Richard Marquand, meaning somebody this is the AT-ST Watts and Marquand are in. - Kooshmeister

  • Also, the AT-ST that Chewie gets, regardless of what its designation is, is the one with the scar on the front, which the picture doesn't show. As a matter of fact... none of the pictures of the AT-STs in Tempest Force on here depict the scar. This is a matter which I think requires some urgent attention. - Kooshmeister
    • I've changed the pages of Watts, Marquand, Tempest Scout 2, and Tempest Scout 3 to remedy this. Now if someone can just get a screenshot of the AT-ST with the scar, we'll be in business. And, if anyone disagrees with me that Watts and Marquand are the two guys that Chewie and the Ewoks rough up, feel free to say something. - Kooshmeister
      • If I remember correct, this battle scar appears and disappears through some of the scenes. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 12:28, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
      • If you watch the movie again and look at the pictures of watts and marquand you will see that they are NOT the same pilots of the AT-ST. ALso, the AT-ST with the scar seems to be the one of the only models that they used for AT-STs in the films. The decipher CCG is where I got my info from and it does not have an AT-ST with a scar as a card. I knew it was not Scout 1 or 2 because arnet and watts and marquand are not in the commandeered walker.
Majormarquand

and

Lieutenantwatts
(notice how he gets a bonus when piloting Tempest scout 2)

do not look like

Atstpilot

who was piloting the walker theat chewbacca hijacked. Eggzavier

      • I stand corrected. Sorry. Okay then, this just leaves the question of where Watts and Marquand do appear in the film, since, as I said above, the only two AT-ST drivers we see are the ones in the walker Chewie gets. - Kooshmeister
      • Also, if the picture of Tempest Scout 3 on the card lacks the scar, then that's a blooper I guess. 'Cause I've always thought the scar was there so the audience would be able to tell which walker Chewie was in during the fairly chaotic battle. - Kooshmeister
        • 8 It is possible that they did not appear in the movie but the pictures of them are from production. Also on the walkers, it appears that for the decipher game, they digitally edited out the scar on the walkers to make it appear that there were more. I think it is possible that the officer that Leia shoots is Arnet as the picture of Tempest Scout 1 looks like the walker that we see on film as the rebels are brought out of the bunker. That would explain why Marquand led the counterattack. I dont know why Marquand ranks higher than Arnet, but Arnet piloted Tempest Scout 1, and superior officers generally are higher on the vehicle list. Hope this clears things up a little.

-Eggzavier 00:12, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

          • What card set is this, again? —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 00:48, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
            • ENdor limited -Eggzavier 07:35, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
              • Yeah, I have to find a place that sells them. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 14:46, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
                • good luck jack, theyve been out of print for 6 years. A place you may want to look for images is www.essentialswccg.com and to get the virtual game www.holotable.com you can get single cards and some boxes of packs off of ebay. If you find anyplace good let me know. -Eggzavier 19:58, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
                  • Well, if they've been out of print for years, I'll never find them. I can't even find some of the lastest expansion packs from Wizards of the Coast. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 20:01, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
                    • Also, the endor set is one of the rarest, with one booster box running in excess of 200$ on ebay. I wish that lucas renewed their contract with decipher and made the game again, but that probobly won't happen.
      • Not to drag this out again, but I just wanted to point out that using Marquand's card is unreliable because he's looking down. But, if you compare Marquand and the unnamed AT-ST driver using this picture of Marquand:
        Marquand
        Atstpilot
Their mouths and nose are pretty darn similar. Also note, that unless that's the glare, they both have a little chink/scratch/scar/whatever on the same spot on their helmets on the right-hand side (although it's difficult to see in the left picture; it's just above, and partially hidden by, Marquand's goggles). I'm convinced that it's the same person in both pictures. - Kooshmeister
        • Yeah, they do look to be the same. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 01:28, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
        • I suppose it is possible, their uniform doesnt look the same though. If you notice on his left shoulder theres an imperial emblem in his pic and then none in the other one. I don't even know where the pic of him or watts came from because ive seen ROTJ hundreds of times and don't remember seeing either of them. -Eggzavier 11:56, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
          • Yeah, their helmets are different (color-wise). —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 12:01, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
          • Well it could be the emblem is just out of view due to the position of his shoulder. As for the different color helmets, I think that's just the fact one is an on-set photograph while the other is an actual still from the film. Either way, I'll watch ROTJ again as soon as I can dig out my tape of it. - Kooshmeister
            • Great. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 21:25, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
              • Just watched it again, and didnt see marquand at all. I dont know. I guess its possible that they are the same person, but the card game ids them as two seperate people. Im not saying that the card game is absolute truth, just what it says. -Eggzavier 03:18, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

MarquandEdit

Shouldn't all the info in this article about Marquand and Chewie be omitted, since Marquand is established as the pilot of Scout 2? Inigo Montoya 23:34, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpvHELroaLo Watts commands Marquand to get Chewie and Ewoks off? My honest evaluation is the CCG goofed and got Marquand and Watts' ranks wrong, because Watts was the one apparently piloting, commanding Marquand to get them off, and beaten unconscious. Incidentally, see how the light-up panels in back correspond to their seating, with Marquand on left, Watts on right? In Marquand's "ungoggled" pic you can see Watts to your right. I sense a retcon. Inigo Montoya 23:58, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

      • Not a bad analysis. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 01:17, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
        • Whatever their true ranks and roles, it's not unfeasible that Watts, serving as the gunner, could have commanded Marquand, as his commanding officer, to get the Ewok off. Remember the AT-ST was standing neutrally when Marquand went overboard. And this scenario would leave Watts, as gunner, to open fire on any spotted targets. Inigo Montoya 02:24, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
          • I still disagree that the one yanked out are watts and marquand, and if it is then watts would be the one pulled out and marquand the unconsious one. -Eggzavier 04:35, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
            • Sorry, but it was Marquand who was thrown out, as he seems to have portrayed the AT-ST Driver on the viewer's left. And everything really does point to Marquand and Watts as being in that AT-ST. Inigo Montoya 09:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
              • Time to ask Chee. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 15:00, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
                • Watts is thrown out, Marquand is knocked out, as it says on their official bios. Not only that, but if you just watch the scene you will notice how the one thrown out looks like the picture of Watts, while the one who is beaten by the Ewoks matches the picure of Marquand. 71.232.225.38 21:49, 4 June 2008 (UTC).
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