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Catalyst[edit source]

Just started reading Catalyst and saw that the Del Rey timeline places it after Tarkin. Norhungson (talk) 18:11, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

  • Del Rey does place it after Tarkin, but when you've read it all, you'll realize it's obviously a mistake. --LelalMekha (talk) 18:33, November 27, 2016 (UTC)
  • I'm reading through it now. I'm only a few chapters in so far, but it takes place over a fair span of time. Chapter 3 refers to the conquering of Geonosis and the dismantling/repurposing of the droid foundry, and Chapter 7 refers to the capture of Poggle the Lesser, all which happened as a result of the "Second Battle of Geonosis". (The 2nd Battle of Geonosis takes place in The Clone Wars episodes 205-207). We learn Jyn Erso was conceived not long after the start of the Clone Wars, and that Galen's arrest on Vallt took place before the first anniversary of the First "Battle of Geonosis". Lastly the opening text of "Catalyst" already makes mention of the battle station's construction. This means the 2nd Battle of Geonosis must have happened less than one year after the first, including the arrest of Poggle and the beginning construction of the Death Star in orbit above Geonosis. Furthermore, as far in as Chapter 7 we learn Jyn is 7 months old in 21 BBY. I'll post more as I get further into the book. No doubt sections of the book will take place at different points in the Canon timeline. Jedispy (talk) 23:38, March 3, 2017 (UTC)
  • Catalyst Chapter 8 has some confusing remarks from Mas Amedda to Lt Cmdr Krennic, referring to the "recent" losses on Ryloth and Bothawui. These events would have taken place while Galin Erso was on Vallt, but it certainly wouldn't be "recent" news for Krennic in this timeline. Chapter 8 takes place a few months after Krennic rescued the Ersos from Vallt. Jedispy (talk) 00:57, March 5, 2017 (UTC)
  • Catalyst chapter 9 takes place some time after Clone Wars s03e18-e20 (Citadel, Counterattack, Citadel Rescue). In chapter 9 Tarkin talks to Galin Erso about those events. Jedispy (talk) 00:57, March 5, 2017 (UTC)
  • Catalyst chapters 11 & 12 take place during the events of Revenge of the Sith, up to the end of the war. Jedispy (talk) 02:53, March 6, 2017 (UTC)
  • The opening section of chapter 13 occurs during the epilogue scene in ROTS where Vader, Tarkin, and the Emperor oversee the early construction of the Death Star. Jedispy (talk) 02:53, March 6, 2017 (UTC)
  • The remainder of chapter 13 happens a few weeks after the end of ROTS Jedispy (talk) 02:53, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

"Hide" ability[edit source]

I used to be able to click "hide" on all but "yet to be released" and then I could keep track of upcoming books/comics etc.

Somebody has changed something, it doesn't work anymore.Unsigned comment by Nseruame (talk • contribs).

  • A little while ago we modified the filters so that if, for instance, you "hide" the Novels category, it hides all released and upcoming novels. A downside of this is that unpublished material can't be filtered. However, you can still easily find upcoming content by double clicking on the "Released" column. Hope this helps! - Cwedin(talk) 17:39, December 6, 2016 (UTC)
    • ThanksUnsigned comment by Nseruame (talk • contribs).
    • Just wanted to add that, for filtering purposes, probably would be much easier to pull the data into Google Sheet using the 'formula' =IMPORTHTML("http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_canon_media", "table", 4) (the number 4 there represents the 'index' of the timeline table; at the time of my posting this comment, the timeline table is the 4th table in the page).
After importing the table, one can use GSheet's 'Filter' feature to do some slicing and dicing.  [ pepoluan talk ] 11:09, July 25, 2017 (UTC)

A Recipe For Death Placement[edit source]

The citation for the placement of "A Recipe For Death" as the first item on the timeline says " "A Recipe for Death" establishes that Strono Tuggs has served in Maz Kanata's castle for twenty-some years, and Star Wars: The Force Awakens: The Visual Dictionary establishes that Tuggs served in the castle for centuries. As such, "A Recipe for Death" must take place at least 171 years before Star Wars: Episode VII The Force Awakens, or at least 105 years before Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace."

The actual text of the Visual Dictionary entry is "A centuries-old fixture within the castle, Tuggs has a surly attitude that is the subject of good-natured ribbing by those who eat his cooking in the dining hall." While that could be read as him being a fixture for centuries, I think the more plain interpretation is that he's centuries old, and is also a fixture. This would be similar to saying that, as of ESB, Yoda is a "centuries-old fixture in the Dagobah swamps."

The intent of the author seems to have been to write a set of stories set shortly before The Force Awakens. If "A Recipe For Death" is set shortly before The Force Awakens, and he's been working there for about twenty years, I'd say it's fair to call him a fixture in the castle. I propose moving it into the same time period as the other TFAGFFA: Aliens stories.

ASWalsh (talk) 02:08, January 11, 2017 (UTC)

Oooh, didn't realize there was a second source. Objection withdrawn! ASWalsh (talk) 23:49, January 12, 2017 (UTC)

Rebels timeline[edit source]

I tried adding dates to rebels episodes but instead messed everything up.70.75.229.71 00:46, January 26, 2017 (UTC)

  • What episodes were you trying to add dates too? I can help you out if you need any --Lewisr (talk) 00:48, January 26, 2017 (UTC)
    • Warhead and Trails of the Darksaber, but I ended up screwing up the Unknown placement and Notes and References section instead. Could you do it? 70.75.229.71 00:50, January 26, 2017 (UTC)
      • Ah I understand no worries, well I've got it done for you! --Lewisr (talk) 00:54, January 26, 2017 (UTC)
        • Thanks, and could you also do Dr. Aphra? As an immediate sequel to Vader, it would easily take place in 0 ABY. 70.75.229.71 01:02, January 26, 2017 (UTC)
          • Although I tend to agree that it would take place in 0 ABY, I'd feel better about it with a source that says 0 ABY --Lewisr (talk) 01:10, January 26, 2017 (UTC)

Non-fiction media[edit source]

Is there a reason we don't include non-fiction media in this timeline? I understand that you can't really pin them down to a particular year, but shouldn't we at least have a section for non-fiction items on this page? We could even include an in-universe year range covered by the contents of the media. I use this timeline to find new canon media to consume, but I completely miss out on most of the non-fiction because I don't see a page that catalogs it. --Discobob (talk) 21:38, February 15, 2017 (UTC)

  • Since this page is a timeline, it's restricted to only narrative media. We could add in reference works, but almost all of them cover the same year range, so it wouldn't really be useful in that regard. In theory, new canon reference books can be found here, but that page needs some work. Until that's cleaned up, I'd recommend taking a look here. This question has been brought up before, so maybe a change is in order. - Cwedin(talk) 21:46, February 15, 2017 (UTC)

Star Wars Clone Wars Vol 1&2[edit source]

I get it that Clone Wars Volumes 1 & 2 are not considered canon. However it it where both Ventress and Greivous are introduced. Where is it stated that officially that these are no longer canon? The only inconsistency I can think of is the existence of talz Jedi master Foul Moudama. Talz were a new discovery in 22 BBY, and there would not have been enough time for one to join the Order and become a master. Jedispy (talk) 04:35, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

  • Good question! Many Wookieepedians (myself included) have been pretty lousy at explaining this, but I'll do my best. When Lucasfilm rebooted the Expanded Universe and moved the non-Lucas stories to "Legends," they moved all of the non-Lucas stories, regardless of inconsistencies. Since Star Wars: Clone Wars wasn't created by Lucas, it falls into Legends. All that, paired with Jennifer Heddle's Tweets (and Wookieepedia bureaucracy), is why Clone Wars is non-canon. However, since most of the show doesn't contradict anything, it's stories (or versions of them) can still be reintroduced, if Lucasfilm decides to do so. For example, Catalyst: A Rogue One Novel references the events of Clone Wars Chapter 20. Personally, my head-canon still considers the show to be canon, except for the contradictions. Put simply, the episodes themselves are not canon, but the stories told in the episodes might be. - Cwedin(talk) 05:23, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Bottleneck Dating[edit source]

This timeline dates the short story Bottleneck at Approx 14 BBY, yet 11 BBY is where all of the information (such as events, deaths, etc.) goes for this particular short story. I know I'm missing something and just need a bit of clarification. Why isn't the details of this short story edited under 14 BBY? Should this story be dated 11 BBY? DoctorMax (talk) 10:42, April 5, 2017 (UTC)

  • The date should be 11 BBY. "Bottleneck" ends with Sloane's promotion to Captain of the Ultimatum, and A New Dawn refers to her as "the new captain." - Cwedin(talk) 23:06, April 5, 2017 (UTC)
    • Awesome, thanks for the clarification. Glad to help anyway I can. DoctorMax (talk) 01:27, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

Guardians of the Whills[edit source]

Guardians of the Whills is classified as a junior novel. I don't think it's supposed to be considered a junior novel. Perhaps YA?

Sorry if this formatted poorly/incorrectly, this is my first time using a wiki.Unsigned comment by Aatticus (talk • contribs).

  • Welcome to Wookieepedia, Aatticus! Guardians of the Whills is classified as a junior novel because it's a chapter book. It's more mature than other chapter books, such as the Rebels novels, but it's closer to that category than it is to YA. - Cwedin(talk) 23:04, August 15, 2017 (UTC)

Legends of Luke Skywalker placement[edit source]

Where are we placing this on this timeline? The book definitely starts after Blade Squadron: Jakku but I'm not sure where after it goes that, my best guess it we just put it before Tales from Wild Space: Stop, Thief! until we know for certain where it fits in the TL, unless I missed something in the book? --Lewisr (talk) 19:57, November 1, 2017 (UTC)

  • I think that should be fine, maybe with an 'exact placement unknown' tag? - Tommy-Macaroni Imperial Emblem.svg (Talk) 20:00, November 1, 2017 (UTC)
    • That works for me --Lewisr (talk) 20:04, November 1, 2017 (UTC)
      • So we definitely aren't doing the short stories by themselves? That'd work nicely.--ZapikCZ (talk) 20:14, November 1, 2017 (UTC)
        • I don't really know, was there ever a book like this within legends? If so then we can see how that was handled, if not then we kind of need to make a decision about what we do --Lewisr (talk) 20:20, November 1, 2017 (UTC)
          • Is the book just stand-alone stories?? If it's it should be an article per story like FOACPV or Tales from...., If notthen I think it should be just the article of the book, since the stories are collected and narrated by someone just like FoD Daring Adventures series.--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 20:25, November 1, 2017 (UTC)
            • Basically it goes the prelude, story, interlude, story, interlude, story, interlude, story, interlude, story, interlude, story then the last chapter. There's a group of people on a ship and they each take it in turn to tell a story about Luke --Lewisr (talk) 20:30, November 1, 2017 (UTC)
              • I don't think we should separate them. It would be like the Phasma novel, in Phasma Vi is telling Phasma stories to Cardinal--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 20:42, November 1, 2017 (UTC)
                • But these all have names!--ZapikCZ (talk) 20:49, November 1, 2017 (UTC)
                  • Each story doesn't need its own article, but I think placing them on the timeline like "The Legends of Luke Skywalker—'Story Name'" would be appropriate. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 20:53, November 1, 2017 (UTC)
                    • That could work.--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 20:55, November 1, 2017 (UTC)
                    • So, would that apply to appearances too?--ZapikCZ (talk) 20:59, November 1, 2017 (UTC)
                      • I don't know. I think that needs to be part of a larger conversation about how to document this book, because none of the narrators are reliable. Nothing in the book can really be taken as objective fact. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 21:01, November 1, 2017 (UTC)
  • I agree, this is a book where someone tells a story of another individual or droid's interaction with Luke, meaning it is very hard to say whether it ever actually happened as described in the book/if at all --Lewisr (talk) 21:11, November 1, 2017 (UTC)
    • That wouldn't affect the appearances. A fact or not, they're mentioned or appear on the book, but I would say No, there's no need to separate the appearances per story. --DarthRuiz30 (talk) 21:13, November 1, 2017 (UTC)
      • I meant for overall how we add any information to any pages, there is one story I have doubts we can really take as actually happening, one with a mole-flea claiming he was actually helping Luke during the Rescue of Han Solo --Lewisr (talk) 21:29, November 1, 2017 (UTC)

In Universe Reference Guides[edit source]

Hello and let me just say that I love this page, but I feel that because IN UNIVERSE reference books add to the canon and story. I've brouht this up in a discussion today as well. Again I know you guys have turned down severel similar ideas but this is different. If you could add them to your list that would be fantastic. It would make the list complete. Im not asking you to put in "official guides" or "visual dictionaries" I'm talking about stories/guides thatdouble as in-universe documents.Unsigned comment by DrAutocorrect (talk • contribs).

Here's the list:

--ZapikCZ (talk) 21:38, November 19, 2017 (UTC)

Adaptations[edit source]

Adaptations should have their own category so that they may be filtered out. Not that this would make a difference for the case of making adaptations their own category, but many casual fans are of the opinion that additional information in an adaptation (e.g. a novelization of one of the episodes) is not crucial information to STAR WARS as a story. But in regards to technical details, this information is important, especially to the Lucasfilm Story Group. DJ1AM (talk) 14:13, December 16, 2017 (UTC)

  • I'm open to this, but I don't think there's enough room. It'd be something like "unreleased", so it could be added to other categories.--ZapikCZ (talk) 15:23, December 16, 2017 (UTC)
    • This sounds like the perfect way to do it. The category could be gray in the key table at the top. I dont think that the color of the category box for each work would need to be changed, as they are for "unpublished" works. I don't think that any information would have to be changed for these works; adaptations are already described as such under those works' titles. DJ1AM (talk) 16:32, January 21, 2018 (UTC)

Star Wars Adventures/Tales From Wild Space[edit source]

I haven't read these yet, but judging from the descriptions it looks like they are not properly placed on the timeline? For example, "Stop Thief" apparently involves Obi Wan during the Clone Wars, but it's placed after "Blade Squadron: Jakku" along with several others from the same series that appear to take place across the canon timeline. Can anyone who's read these more accurately place them?Unsigned comment by 20acole (talk • contribs).

  • I guess they've been placed after Jakku, because the "main story" is about Graf telling those stories which are supposed to be after the Galactic Civil War--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 06:55, December 27, 2017 (UTC)

Missing Tales of Hope & Courage[edit source]

The list appears to be missing the story "Forces of Destiny: Tales of Hope & Courage". It's listed as cannon on its wiki page here http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Forces_of_Destiny:_Tales_of_Hope_%26_Courage but I don't see it if I search in the list. Can't figure how to add it myself.Unsigned comment by Rabbit1210 (talk • contribs).

  • That's a Replica Journal, se é the discussion above (it's not a discussion, since no one replied though).--ZapikCZ (talk) 20:54, January 12, 2018 (UTC)

Days before The Last Jedi[edit source]

According to Jennifer Heddle here, this novella 'takes place just days before The Last Jedi', should we put this as happening before The Force Awakens also? --Lewisr (talk) 03:08, January 14, 2018 (UTC)

  • We don't know exactly how many days TFA spans, so it's possible that Canto Bight is concurrent to it. (Also, I'm pretty sure one of the stories indirectly mentions the destruction of the NR, but I could be wrong). For now, I think that placing Canto Bight between TFA and TLJ would be best. - Cwedin(talk) 03:25, January 14, 2018 (UTC)
    • True, I did consider that but placing it between the two for now is fine by me --Lewisr (talk) 03:27, January 14, 2018 (UTC)

Original and Prequel Trilogy Novelizations[edit source]

Shouldn't the original and prequel trilogy novelizations be considered canon? I guess the official statement here doesn't list the novels, but it seems odd to me to canonize the movies, but not the books. Is there an official statement clarifying this?Unsigned comment by MisinformedDNA (talk • contribs).

  • There was a brief discussion about that here. Long story short, the pre-2014 novelizations sometimes make references to things that are not meant to be canon. One example of this is the ROTS novel, which is part of The Dark Lord Trilogy and makes several Legends-only references. - Cwedin(talk) 04:57, January 17, 2018 (UTC)

Inclusion of 'Far Too Remote'[edit source]

I noticed the timeline includes an entry for Far Too Remote although the page for this work lists it as non-canon. Therefore I think it would be correct to remove this work from the timeline. Thoughts? 20acole (talk)

Star Wars: Secrets of the Empire[edit source]

Don’t know if anyone has done this VR experience yet, but doing some research on Star Wars: Secrets of the Empire I see that it’s canon, anyone got any idea on its placement in the Canon Timeline? Is it canon in the first place? Thanks guys - DoctorMax (talk) 01:10, February 6, 2018 (UTC)

Post-RotJ timeline discrepancies[edit source]

Alright so I came about some inconsistencies within the post-RotJ timeline. Here's what we know:

- AEYNTK places RotJ as 6 months after ESB (so does legends so ill stick with it being re canonized)

- ESB is in 3 ABY and, 6 months later we are in 4 ABY for RotJ. At the very latest, RotJ would be in Month 6 of 4 ABY (and that is if Empire is one of the very last events of 3 ABY either way)

- You also have Shattered Empire IV as the very first event in 5 ABY. SE IV is 3 months after RotJ which, if we use the very latest possible time for Empire, would still place it in Month 9 of 4 ABY. The Wook cites 'Galactic Atlas' as the reasoning for placing SE IV in 5 ABY.

- So, there isn't enough months to have ESB, RotJ, and SE IV in three different years

The conclusion that I have come to is one of two things.

1. 'Galactic Atlas' only places Shara and Kes settling down in 5 ABY. You could easily say that the end of the issue took place after the Battle of Jakku. They both likely would have continued fighting until the defeat of the Empire.

2. 'Galactic Atlas' is written "from a certain point of view", so, it could be likely that it is just incorrect. Generally, you should not accept what is said in those type of books as complete fact because of them being written "from a certain point of view".

So, in conclusion. There is no way SE IV, Life Debt, and Kuat can be placed in 4 ABY due to the limited amount of months between Empire and Jedi. At most, 6 months would be left over until the turn of the year after RotJ due to its proximity to ESB. So, that would place all of Uprising, Life Debt, Blade Squadron: Kuat, and most of the BFII missions in 4 ABY. But, ESB is also placed as 3 and a half years after ANH (by AEYNTK), which would place it in the middle of 3 ABY, while also placing RotJ at the very beginning of 4 ABY. So, that would make The Battle of Jakku one of the very first events in 5 ABY (along with im guessing most or all of Empire's End)

So, I propose we place everything between Uprising and Blade Squadron: Kuat in 4 ABY to account for the discrepancies

--Confederalis (talk) 03:50, February 6, 2018 (UTC)

  • You bring up good points, but I think Galactic Atlas is more trustworthy than AEYNTK. The back of AEYNTK even has a disclaimer that it's mostly drawing info from Legends. I think it's best to leave the timeline as is, unless the Story Group says otherwise. - Cwedin(talk) 03:58, February 6, 2018 (UTC)
    • While, yes, that does seem fair, the Wook itself sources a source outside AEYNTK for the placement of 3.5 years after ANH and 6 months before RotJ. I gathered that was the canon timeline, which would fit what I am advocating for --Confederalis (talk) 04:08, February 6, 2018 (UTC)
      • I'm not sure which source you're referring to. Is it on this page? - Cwedin(talk) 04:17, February 6, 2018 (UTC)
        • The Empire Strikes Back page gives those dates in the infobox (3.5 years after ANH, 6 months before RotJ). It doesn't source AEYNTK either, it sources Leeland
          • Oh, ok. The six months can't actually be cited to Leland's Tweet (it only uses years), so that info probably shouldn't have been there. - Cwedin(talk) 04:24, February 6, 2018 (UTC)
            • Alright fair enough. Guess we'll just have to wait and see. Thanks!
              • No problem. I'll make a mental note of this discussion in case anything new pops up! - Cwedin(talk) 04:29, February 6, 2018 (UTC)

Timeline of Battlefront II[edit source]

I noticed that the timeline stated for Battlefront II (the 2017 version) is 32 BBY through 34 ABY, but I don't think this is correct. That timeframe would be correct if you include some of the multiplayer content, or the arcade, where you can play in the time of the Republic, Separatists etc. but I can't imagine that that content is considered canon.

I'd think the only canonized content in the game is the single player storyline, which would be from 4 ABY through 34 ABY.

Thoughts?Unsigned comment by 2001:558:1416:12:0:0:0:8DE (talk • contribs).

  • While the multiplayer gameplay is not canon, all of the events and battles are. So, since these battles are adaptations of canon events, this timeline page treats the game the same way as Battlefront 2015. This is why it includes the full dates being spanned, not just the singleplayer campaign. - Cwedin(talk) 18:31, April 23, 2018 (UTC)
    • This is an interesting discussion. Could you give me some more background on that Cwedin? I've played the game quite a bit, but I always presumed most of the original multiplayer battles that aren't taken from other story media were non-canon. Like the battle with the Resistance forces on Starkiller Base. Are we saying that's somehow canon, or is it an exception where we can easily say that battle couldn't have happened and is one of the few ones that are non-canon? --Kingsman28 (talk) 11:54, December 22, 2018 (UTC)
      • I wouldn't say those events definitely happened (like you said, they aren't mentioned elsewhere), but the door's always open. Video games like this just kind of fall into a gray area, since they're usually oriented toward gameplay rather than story. For the purposes of this wiki, though, it's just easier to say the game is canon, and those original battles can be disregarded for now. (But that's just my take on it.) - Cwedin(talk) 18:37, December 22, 2018 (UTC)
      • It really feels this should be specific to the single-player content, which is unique to this piece of media, as opposed to the multiplayer content, which is represented in other media. Further, the multiplayer content provides the player the opportunity to perform actions, missions, etc. which are in direct conflict with established canon materials. As such, I think this should be moved to later in the canon, starting around the Battle of Endor. - consumethecanon(talk) 20:04, December 25, 2018 (UTC)
        • The Legends Timeline has the missions listed in order, I have a vague idea when the missions take place but not 100% sure as I have not read the content around the time of the campaign, i.e aftermath, shattered empire, alphabet squadron... - (talk) 23:00, October 28th, 2020 (GMT)

Short Stories / Double Quotes[edit source]

Why are short stories encapsulated by double quotes, but no other titles are? For instance: "A Recipe for Death" vs. Star Wars 26: Yoda's Secret War, Part I. There's even a comic with quotes "Probe Droid Problem". If the quotes are not needed, I'll be happy to remove them.Unsigned comment by MisinformedDNA (talk • contribs).

  • It's just a formatting thing. Typically, titles that are part of a larger collection (such as short stories, comic strips, and TV episodes) are given quotes, while titles that are their own thing (like novels, comic books, and TV shows) are given italics. - Cwedin(talk) 22:14, April 29, 2018 (UTC)

FoD Accidental Allies - Sabine's hair is wrong for time period[edit source]

I suggest the Forces of Destiny episode "Accidental Allies" by moved after the FoD "Hasty Departure" episode since it appears to take place between seasons 2 and 3 of Rebels, based on Sabine's hair color. Accidental Allies shows her with the blue hair she had prior to season 3, when she changed it to light purple. Therefore it can't take place during or after season 3.

(I tried to make this change myself and Wikia wouldn't accept my changes - after editing the table in source I get "Could not start the review because your revision matches the latest version of this page." when reviewing the changes, and when saving my changes would not show up. If anyone can provide guidance or a resource on how to make a change like this, please let me know.)

Raelshark (talk) 08:11, May 5, 2018 (UTC)

Favreau[edit source]

Jon Favreau, did not say 7 years after a New Hope. He said 7 years after Return of the Jedi so therefore the new TV series would not take place in 7 ABY, it would take place 11 BBY. Unsigned comment by Mr Star Wars AminoRepublic (talk • contribs).

  • He very clearly said 7 years after the Battle of Yavin, it was just reported wrong to be the Battle of Endor at first, the guy who asked him even cleared it up here --Lewisr (talk) 13:13, May 12, 2018 (UTC)
  • Amino, he was misquoted. He said 7 years After ANH, but the article writer accidentally said RotJ. SenatorConfer (talk) 18:31, May 12, 2018 (UTC)

Lost Stars Manga[edit source]

Should the Manga adaptation of Lost Stars be included? It's listed as canon on its wiki page http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Lost_Stars,_Vol._1Unsigned comment by Rabbit1210 (talk • contribs).

Tales From Wild Space[edit source]

Why are the Tales From Wild Space comics listed at the bottom of the timeline between The Last Jedi and episode IX? Comics such as Podracer's Rescue and Stop Theif! seem to have a pretty clear placement in the timeline. --Jabot164(talk) 04:12, July 29, 2018 (UTC)

  • The "Tales from Wild Space" comics are framed stories being told by Emil Graf, so they're placed in their "present day"/post-TLJ setting. (Since one of the stories talks about TLJ, we know they are being told sometime after that.) We're basically treating them like The Legends of Luke Skywalker. For all we know, Graf could be making the stories up. :P - Cwedin(talk) 04:19, July 29, 2018 (UTC)

Star Wars: Resistance pilot episodes placement[edit source]

Is there a reason why the first two eps of Resistance are placed several years away from Force Awakens? We know the majority of the series must take place after Before the Awakening. Was there a preview or source that mentioned the first two episodes acting as a prologue set several years before? Because it seems like it should fit into the 34 ABY timeline if not. --Kingsman28 (talk) 17:00, August 17, 2018 (UTC)

  • It was just placed in that slot when the show was first announced. The placement's been updated now. - Cwedin(talk) 17:06, August 17, 2018 (UTC)
    • To be fair, I don't know why the Wook goes on the assumption that Poe's story in BtA is in 34 ABY. The intro is extremely vague. It say "In the months before TFA", but months can means anywhere from 2 months to 200 months. It doesn't say "a few months before TFA" or something more specific like that. Therefore, I think we should set Poe's story into a unspecified year, allowing Resistance to come shortly after it. SenatorConfer (talk) 19:18, August 17, 2018 (UTC)
      • Just personal opinion here, but I feel that, if it were set more than a year before TFA, they would have said "a year before", or "in the years before", or some other way of quantifying the time in years, rather than months. To me, it seems safe to assume that "in the months before" at least means at least a month or two short of a year. k1darkknight (talk) 00:22, January 2, 2020 (UTC)

Incorrect Source[edit source]

The source attached to the Mercy Mission story leads to a tweet by Jordan D. White about another Star Wars topic. That needs to be corrected but since I don't know where the source originated from, I can't correct it. SenatorConfer (talk) 18:32, August 24, 2018 (UTC)

  • Thanks for finding out that mistake, fixed with the original tweet--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 18:47, August 24, 2018 (UTC)

Han Solo comic placement[edit source]

So, I've been pondering over this for a while but I think I finally nailed down the timeline of the Han Solo comic. I believe it goes right before Star Wars #1 in 0 ABY. I think this because it goes along with his post-ANH story arc as well as is hinted at in Heir to the Jedi and Rebel Files.

First of all, I want to outline Han's character arc after ANH. After the debacle with Ematt, Having presumably lost their reward money somehow (in Legends it was stolen by pirates), Han and Chewie decide to step back from the Rebellion in order to find ways to pay off their debt to Jabba. Luke and Leia complete missions without Han during this time, including the events of Tibrin, Sarka, and HttJ (all stories without Han). Now, the beginning of the Han Solo comic has Han still looking for ways to pay off his debt while also not taking smuggling jobs because he is scared of the Empire or bounty hunters finding him. But, Leia sends agents to recruit Han for an important mission and thus the Han Solo comic begins. Now, the way the timeline has it now, Han leave the rebellion after Yavin only to rejoin them for the main comic and then leave again for the Han Solo comic before rejoining once again for the rest of the SW comics and ESB. That seems too complicated and too out of character for Han and I believe the Han Solo comic was what caused him to rejoin the rebellion right before the main SW comic.

Now, I believe this is backed up by HttJ and Rebel Files as well. Luke mentions in Heir that Han has taken time away from the rebellion (thus the Han Solo comic hasn't happened yet). Rebel Files has an entry directly before the Cymoon 1 entry that describes Mon and Draven talking about recruiting Han and Chewie for the Cymoon 1 mission. This shows, imo, that Han and Chewie were still away from the rebellion right before the attack on Cymoon 1 and Leia was sent to recruit Han and Chewie, believing that showing the two of them rebel action again would convince them to rejoin and help with the Cymoon 1 attack.

Either way, I think this placement has far more proof behind it than the comic being after the main line altogether, it just doesnt make sense

--Confederalis (talk) 23:26, September 24, 2018 (UTC)

  • The dialog you refer to between Mon Mothma and Draven is actually a follow-up to his wondering who would be best to send to Cyrkon to rescue Ematt. As it stands, there is actually no explicit reference in The Rebel Files to the events of Marvel's Han Solo series. Thus, I am removing it as a source for placement. However, I do personally agree with your reasoning for placement.--Tiptup Jr. (talk) 01:08, August 17, 2019 (UTC)
  • And are the rebels still on Yavin IV in this comic? In issue #1 the fleet is orbiting a celestial body that resembles Yavin, in issue #4 U'il mentions a "rebel base" multiple times, and in issue #5 Han lands somewhere with temples and forests and rebels moving equipment and boxes around - it resembles Yavin IV. One would expect the rebels would've been gone by then, but The Rebel Files interestingly contains correspondence wondering when the Imperials will strike at Yavin, and missions to find Imperial probes in the system that turned up fruitless - and let's not forget Leia returns there after her week+ long mission to find Alderaanian refugees - implying they were left alone for at least some amount of time after the battle...--Tiptup Jr. (talk) 01:08, August 17, 2019 (UTC)
  • I've contacted Marjorie Liu and Leeland Chee on Twitter to maybe clear this up. I agree that it is great fit thematically after Heir to the Jedi and before Marvel's Star Wars, but this possible appearance of Yavin is tripping me up. --Tiptup Jr. (talk) 01:08, August 17, 2019 (UTC)
    • Actually it is referenced in The Rebel Files but later on, when Cracken informs Mon Mothma of rebel operatives within the Empire, he then says the Dragon Void model was worth emulating but he wouldn't expect Han to pull off the same trick twice --Lewisr (talk) 01:26, August 17, 2019 (UTC)
      • Ah, so it does. Well at least we know it takes place prior to the Mid Rim retreat... --Tiptup Jr. (talk) 01:39, August 17, 2019 (UTC)

Forces of Destiny: The Clone Wars[edit source]

The ordering of the Clone Wars forces of destiny Episodes are probably as follows:

  • S1 E12: Teach You, I Will
  • S1 E6: The Imposter Inside
  • S2 E2: Unexpected Company
  • S1 E13: The Starfighter Stunt
  • S1 E4: The Padawan Path

Given the redesigned Ahsoka and Anakin, it would be after Season 3 Episode 9 "Hunt for Ziro" but before Season 3 Episode 10 "Heroes on Both Sides" where she has her braid. "Hunt for Ziro" was a direct follow on from Season 1 Episode 22's "Hostage Crisis" where we still have the first version of Anakin. Hunt for Ziro is directly after this, so it must be after this arc. (https://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-the-clone-wars-chronological-episodeorder)


Braid missing in 4/5 Shorts


You'll notice the braid is missing in 4/5 Forces of Destiny Episodes (you can't see either way in The Starfighter Stunt). I know she had her braid in season 1, but its been confirmed that the ceremony was an extension to her braid (https://mobile.twitter.com/missingwords/status/883059520947208196) So all that's left is a logical ordering.

  • "Teach you i will" shows Ahsoka has just started using 2 Blades. It also shows Yoda doing a Padawan progress check up (probably for the purpose seeing how far off of achieving the interim Jedi Padawan ceremony she is). After this she uses dual reverse grip in all other FOD instances.
  • The imposter inside Ahsoka remarks that "Its not really my place to mingle with politicians" which further cements this being before "heroes on both sides" where she begins to mingle with politicians for the first time. But near the end she seems oblivious to the fact that Anakin and Padme are a thing with the way she says "You know, you remind me a lot of Anakin sometimes". Her being oblivious to the Padme Anakin relationship places this before "Unexpected Company".
  • The comic adaption expands this episode, where Ahsoka has a lot of feelings of inadequacy reflecting where she's at mentally in "Teach you i will". In this we also see her further development with dual lightsabers in a sparring session with Barris. Padme explicitly states twice that she trusts Ahsoka over any other Jedi available. This being because Anakin is away, and no doubt after seeing Ahsoka's dedication to protecting her in S3 E7's Assassin, she's trusts Ahsoka more than others to run security for her.
  • In "Unexpected company", Padme see's Ahsoka's flying first-hand which leads nicely into "Starfighter Stunt" where she requests some lessons from Ahsoka.
  • Then obviously Padawan Path is last with her getting the braid.

This arrangement also gives us a Yoda sandwich. He checks her progress at the start (probably because they're considering her for whatever the ceremony means), but then throughout the shorts we see these little moments of development that leads to where she's at in "Padawan Path"; confidently on Patrol, protecting the citizens of Coruscant, taking on more responsibility. So these 5 Shorts really bridge Ahsoka's character development between her appearances in "Assassin" and "Heroes on Both Sides".

Leland pretty much confirmed recently that all of these shorts excluding the forces of destiny set during the rebels time frame take place during season 3 (https://twitter.com/HolocronKeeper/status/1075095227042385920) so doesn't really make sense to place some of them right in season 5 --zako11 (talk) 17:38, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

  • We didn't have the Leland Chee tweet (he only posted it 3 days ago) at the time of originally placing the episodes, they were basically only placed there because we didn't have the exact placing and therefore at the very least we could place it before the last arc of s5. Now we know most take place during s3 that helps give more of a placing and things can be moved accordingly --Lewisr (talk) 17:39, December 21, 2018 (UTC)
    • Thanks for digging into this, Zako! Hopefully we get a definitive chronology someday. (fingers crossed) - Cwedin(talk) 20:20, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

"Star Wars: Return of the Jedi Cinestory Comic"[edit source]

It has the wrong date and placement in the order. Not sure how to edit this properly.Unsigned comment by 2A02:C7F:5000:400:A899:1AB9:A1B4:82C4 (talk • contribs).

Unsure placement of events during 14 BBY[edit source]

The items in the timeline for 14 BBY don't seem to be able to all have occurred within one standard year. "Orientation" is clearly tied to "Lords of the Sith", mentioning Vader and the Emperor on their way to Ryloth to deal with insurgents. In turn, LotS mentions it is 8 years since the beginning of the Clone Wars, putting both within 14 BBY. However, "Mercy Mission", which Del Ray said occurred between the events of LotS and "Tarkin", includes a line from Moff Delian Mors in which she states it has been one year since her failure on Ryloth - referring to the events from the end of LotS. I haven't finished "Tarkin", but in the opening crawl it states it is "Five years after..." the end of the Clone Wars, putting it also in 14 BBY. Is this a mistake in the canon history? Should "Tarkin" extend into 13 BBY? --consumethecanon (talk) 21:00, February 11, 2019 (UTC)

  • That's possible, but the simpler answer is that "Mercy Mission" is wrong/rounding up. When characters say it's been a certain amount of time, we have to take that with a grain of salt. A good example is Rogue One; Jyn says that 15 years had passed since the film's prologue, but it had actually been 13 years. - Cwedin(talk) 21:11, February 11, 2019 (UTC)
    • I can understand that, but now that I've finished the novel, I think it extends into 13 BBY. There is so much that happens - Tarkin becoming Grand Moff, then touring the Outer Rim, he spends enough to time to pose for a statue - it feels like months go by in the last chapter. That, combined with the comments from "Mercy Mission", should make the timeframe "14 BBY - 13 BBY" - consumethecanon (talk) 04:26, February 15, 2019 (UTC)

Ordering of content around "Solo: A Star Wars Story"[edit source]

The order of items near "Solo: A Star Wars Story" are slightly off. I'd recommend the following order:

  • Solo: A Star Wars Story
  • Solo: A Star Wars Story: Expanded Edition
  • Solo: A Star Wars Story: Junior Novel
  • Solo: A Star Wars Story Read-Along Storybook and CD
  • Solo: A Star Wars Story Golden Book
  • Star Wars: Solo Graphic Novel Adaptation
  • Solo Adaptation 1
  • Han Solo - Imperial Cadet 1
  • Han Solo - Imperial Cadet 2
  • Han Solo - Imperial Cadet 3
  • Han Solo - Imperial Cadet 4
  • Han Solo - Imperial Cadet 5
  • Forces of Destiny: Season 2: Episode 16: "Triplecross"
  • Lando: Double or Nothing, Part I
  • Lando: Double or Nothing, Part II
  • Lando: Double or Nothing, Part III
  • Lando: Double or Nothing, Part IV
  • Lando: Double or Nothing, Part V
  • Solo Adaptation 2
  • Solo: A Star Wars Story: Train Heist
  • Solo Adaptation 3
  • Solo Adaptation 4
  • Solo Adaptation 5
  • Solo Adaptation 6
  • Solo Adaptation 7

This adjustment is summarized by two key changes:

  • The events of "Imperial Cadet", "Triplecross" and "Double or Nothing" all occur in the 3-year gap in "Solo: A Star Wars Story", which is roughly between Issues 1 and 2 of the "Solo Adaptation". I've left them in the same order, but moved them between "Solo Adaptation 1" and "Solo Adaptation 2". Additionally, "Lando: Double or Nothing, Part V" ends shortly before (or possibly concurrently with) the events of "Solo Adaptation 2".
  • "Solo: A Star Wars Story: Train Heist" is a retelling of the events of "Solo Adaptation 2", and finishes before the events of "Solo Adaptation 3". - consumethecanon (talk) 23:22, February 27, 2019 (UTC)

Placement of "Pirate's Price"[edit source]

According to theforce.net (http://www.theforce.net/story/front/Star_Wars_Pirates_Price_Review_182900.asp), the first story of "Pirate's Price" takes place around 1 BBY ("... at least after the liberation of Lothal), with the final story happening after The Last Jedi. I would suggest "Pirate's Price" be moved to 1 BBY after the series finale of Rebels. - consumethecanon (talk) 20:18, March 6, 2019 (UTC)

  • The author of the book says the first story takes place after Solo. The main story takes place after The Last Jedi so it should stay where it is --Lewisr (talk) 20:21, March 6, 2019 (UTC)
    • In the first story, while Hondo is recounting all the things he's done in his life, he says, "I even fought in the Liberation of Lothal." which occurs in 1 BBY. Because of his interactions with Han and Chewie, the events of this story must happen before the destruction of the Death Star. Therefore, this has to happen in 1 BBY. - consumethecanon (talk) 21:50, March 6, 2019 (UTC)
      • The author's intent was that "present day" Hondo was telling Bazine about the liberation as an aside to the story. Regardless, the book is set after TLJ, so the exact timeframe doesn't really matter here anyway. - Cwedin(talk) 21:58, March 6, 2019 (UTC)
        • Not sure I understand this logic. Does author's intent supersede everything else? Does that mean all "Flight of the Falcon" content should be placed after TLJ? - consumethecanon (talk) 14:30, March 7, 2019 (UTC)
          • Since Pirate's Price is basically just Hondo telling in-universe stories, it's being treated the same way as the Adventures comics or The Legends of Luke Skywalker. (i.e. the placement is based on when the IU story is being told.) - Cwedin(talk) 23:48, March 7, 2019 (UTC)
            • Sorry to bring this up again, but I'm finding this very confusing. Is the only thing that separates whether a story appears in the timeline where the story takes place versus when the story is being recounted is the point of view of the storytelling? As an example, Lando's Luck has the same structure as Pirate's Price - Bezine Netal hearing a story about the Millennium Falcon sometime before Episode IX. However, because Rinetta's retelling is in the third person, it is placed in the correct place in the timeline (as opposed to Hondo's story being first person and being placed at the end of the timeline.) This feels very arbitrary, as it is a choice by the author and doesn't reflect appropriately where the content of the story takes place in canon. The same can be said about the Adventures stories - point of view of the storyteller should not impact where content appears in the timeline. - consumethecanon (talk) 16:58, March 27, 2019 (UTC)
              • The reason that the storyteller POV matters is that Star Wars characters aren't usually reliable narrators. (From a Certain Point of View demonstrates this pretty clearly.) As for Lando's Luck, the Bazine-Rinetta exchange is disregarded partially because it's third person, like you said, but also because it's solely contained in chapters explicitly labeled as a prologue/epilogue. Books like Lando's Luck or Moving Target: A Princess Leia Adventure are better suited where the bulk of the story is set, so for the sake of having a generally favorable chronology, we can just ignore the prologues. - Cwedin(talk) 04:59, March 29, 2019 (UTC)

Adaption Filter[edit source]

With the increasing number of novelisation, web series and YR adaptions, I think it would be a good idea to introduce an Adaption filter. This would help clean up the timeline but also provide more clarification on what is and what isn't the original media. 82.10.122.59 19:32, March 19, 2019 (UTC)

  • That could be a bit complicated since several titles, such as the Forces of Destiny books, are adaptations with original content as well. I think the current setup (just adding a note to relevant titles) is plenty. - Cwedin(talk) 20:38, March 30, 2019 (UTC)

Cancelled Cinestory comics?[edit source]

According to this site (https://jedi-bibliothek.de/2019/01/kurznachrichten-kw04-2019/), all the new Cinestory comics were cancelled. This upcoming one in September, Star Wars: Return of the Jedi Cinestory Comic, and these 2 just "released" in March, Forces of Destiny: May the Force Be with Us Cinestory Comic and Grand Admiral Thrawn: A Star Wars Rebels Cinestory Comic, probably don't exist.Unsigned comment by Bdeluca (talk • contribs).

  • Thanks for pointing that out. All of them still have Amazon.com listings for now, but it'll be a good idea to keep an eye on them in case the books are officially dropped soon. - Cwedin(talk) 20:38, March 30, 2019 (UTC)

Placement of four Rebels comics between "Gathering Forces" and "Path of the Jedi"[edit source]

The four comics - Return of the Slavers, Eyes on the Prize, Kanan 6 and Kanan 12 - are placed between episode 9 (Gathering Forces) and episode 10 (Path of the Jedi of the first season of Rebels. However, the Rebels episodes happen in close proximity that wouldn't allow enough time for the events of the comics to take place. There are references made in both Path of the Jedi and Ezra's Duel with Danger that suggest very little time has passed between the two episodes. Further, Return of the Slavers and especially the two Kanan issues take place over a non-trivial amount of time. As for Eyes on the Prize, Ezra is actively trying to practice his Jedi abilities, when in Path of the Jedi, Kanan makes it clear he has been avoiding practice. Since all of them still need to be 4 BBY, they should be moved to before episode 8 (Empire Day (episode)) in the undefined amount of time between that and the previous episode. - consumethecanon (talk) 20:11, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

  • That doesn't make sense, doesn't Empire Day mark the point its 4 BBY? Therefore at least the Kanan comic has to go after it, because that's 15 years after the Empire's formation --Lewisr (talk) 21:10, April 5, 2019 (UTC)
    • Empire Day is not the turn of the year... the turn of the year is moving backward from the Battle of Yavin. The two things are not related, though in Legends (IIRC), they were close in time. If they were the same, it would mean the Death Star was destroyed on Empire Day, which is not the case. - consumethecanon (talk) 14:15, April 8, 2019 (UTC)
      • According to the author, he imagined Eyes on the Prize taking place between Gathering Forces and Path of the Jedi. Though he said it wasn't official, it at least gives an indication of when its set --Lewisr (talk) 14:36, April 8, 2019 (UTC)
        • Yeah, that is the one with the loosest reasoning for moving. I think the other three should move, but if the author says that is where Eyes on the Prize belongs, that's better sourcing than anything I have. - consumethecanon (talk) 14:52, April 8, 2019 (UTC)
          • Fair enough. Does Return of the Slavers specify that its in 4 BBY? If not we can move it and just leave it without a date for the time --Lewisr (talk) 15:12, April 8, 2019 (UTC)
            • There is nothing specific in the comic dating it. The only thing providing any dating is Ezra doesn't have his lightsaber. - consumethecanon (talk) 15:22, April 8, 2019 (UTC)
              • Could be either 4 BBY or 5 BBY in that case, we can still move it and just say its exact placing is unknown --Lewisr (talk) 15:25, April 8, 2019 (UTC)

Galaxy's Edge rides[edit source]

From what I've read, Galaxy's Edge in Disneyland/Disneyworld are canon. They take place during a single day in the post-Force Awakens period. Are the rides and/or park going to be included in the timeline?Unsigned comment by Bdeluca (talk • contribs).

  • That's correct. I've gone ahead and added the park in. - Cwedin(talk) 22:04, May 31, 2019 (UTC)

Galaxy of Adventure episodes[edit source]

I noticed the Galaxy of Adventure episodes are no longer being added to the timeline. Are these not considered canon? --Unsigned comment by Jake_Yenor (talk • contribs).

Would it help to include a link to List of Star Wars media under a See also header?[edit source]

I'm fond of a master list that includes reference books, magazines, and other non-diegetic works, but List of Star Wars media is pretty neglected, especially relative to this article. I was thinking about including a link under a See also header, and on Timeline of Legends media, which could increase traffic there and maybe get more editor attention on it. Maybe the people who find this article helpful would also find List of Star Wars media helpful but it's just harder to stumble across. But this is a well-managed article so I don't want to plug my pet article and see it turn out that it's an eyesore and clutters up the bottom. Terminimal (talk) 07:19, June 15, 2019 (UTC)

Poe Dameron and Resistance[edit source]

According to this new timeline shown by Lucasfilm at D23, Star Wars Resistance starts in 33 ABY. As Matt Martin says Poe issue 25 takes place around the beginning of Resistance, does this not now mean that all the first 25 issues of the Poe series takes place in 33 ABY? Considering he also said that issue 1 takes place at least a year off from TFA --Lewisr (talk) 03:10, August 25, 2019 (UTC)

  • True, this also means we need to change some of the earlier Resistance episodes from 34 ABY to 33 ABY. The biggest challenge will be to find the cut-off point. Hopefully somebody on Twitter can help with that. --Lolu (text me) 18:15, August 30, 2019 (UTC)
    • At best its "The Core Problem" as that's when Poe comes to get BB-8 from Kaz, unless his journey afterwards took way longer than expected --Lewisr (talk) 18:23, August 30, 2019 (UTC)
      • But Scum and Villainy places the Poe issues 4-6 into 34 ABY, according to the references here and on the Mission to Megalox Beta page, so Resistance cannot be placed into 33 ABY. Additionally the timeline doesn't seem that reliable as it places the Kenobi series in 12 BBY while SW.com says 11 BBY. Onicle (talk) 10:49, September 24, 2019 (UTC)
        • Per the social media policy, Matt's tweet couldn't be used anyway, so currently there's nothing to say Resistance starts after Poe 25. One little mistake doesn't mean the entire timeline isn't reliable though, as far as I can tell every other date is correct --Lewisr (talk) 15:48, September 28, 2019 (UTC)
          • Yes, the other dates are correct. But doesn't BB-8 being with Kaz instead of Poe in the first big part of Resistance rule out that it happens before the majority of the Poe comics? BB-8 only returns to Poe in Resistance for a very short time before the events of E7. It doesn't make any sense if Resistance is placed after the first three Poe issues, then the whole Resistance part with BB-8 happenes, and then all of the other Poe events happen in the days/hours before E7 (with Black One being badly damaged and repaired several times). It only works if the last Black One repair is parallel to Resistance (with Poe flying the white X-wing in this time). Even if you don't see this happening this way, this timeline page doesn't reflect the change in social media policy. Kind regards, Onicle (talk) 15:52, September 28, 2019 (UTC)
            • Yeah that's true actually, apologies my bad, and it does fit with why he isn't flying Black One in Resistance. I forget that BB-8 was with Kaz the entire time right up to shortly before TFA, so it would be kind of weird placing Resistance during the Poe series cause he wouldn't be constantly be going to and from the Colossus --Lewisr (talk) 16:04, September 28, 2019 (UTC)
              • Ok, great, thanks! Onicle (talk) 16:11, September 28, 2019 (UTC)
                • Now that we ignore Scum and Villainy's 34 ABY Megalox reference, there is no reason anymore to ignore the timeline's 33 ABY Resistance start date (which leads to the Poe comics being placed 32-33 ABY). 62.216.209.191 15:49, February 13, 2020 (UTC)

Updates for 'Bloodline', 'Scorched' and Ransolm Casterfo[edit source]

TL;DR - 'Bloodline' takes place in 30 ABY; Scorched in 25 ABY; Ransolm Casterfo's birth year is 2 BBY. And his name pronunciation is wrong.

Starting from the last item first, Ransolm states "I'd only just turned six at the time of the Battle of Endor" (Chapter 8), putting his birth year at 2 BBY, not 4 BBY. The specificity of the statement suggests a certainty about his age, as it probably happened just after his birthday.

Earlier in the book (Chapter 1), Leia states Ransolm's age as 32 ("He was tall, handsome, charismatic, and only thirty-two years old"). With his birth year being 2 BBY, and his age at the time of the story 32, the book should be set during 30 ABY. Additionally, the content of the book itself should have more weight in determining its position in the timeline than a tweet from before the book was released.

As for 'Scorched', we can put this at 25 ABY because of a passage in Chapter 15: "Junior Sabers winner, a professional racer for Crystal Cairn team for two years, until you retired suddenly three years ago." Greer's retirement was because of her bloodburn, putting that at 27 ABY. Her racing career started two years before that - 25 ABY - by invitation provided her by Han Solo at the end of 'Scorched'.

Additionally, per the audio book, Ransolm's last name is pronounced 'cuh STARE foh', not 'CAS ter fo' --consumethecanon (talk) 18:06, September 13, 2019 (UTC)

  • I would take Claudia's word over January LaVoy's, she would be saying how she thinks its said rather than it being the official way of saying it, but that really shouldn't be discussed here as its not relevant. Star Wars: On the Front Lines places Bloodline in 28 ABY also. Another quote from chapter 19 suggests it hasn't yet been 30 years since Alderaan was destroyed 'She covered her mouth with her hand, eyes wide, as she listened to the voice of a man now dead nearly thirty years, speaking for his daughter’s ears only.' --Lewisr (talk) 18:29, September 13, 2019 (UTC)
    • "nearly thirty years" is vague, however. Worst case, it puts the book in 29 BBY. And, it doesn't have the same weight as characters explicitly referring to their own ages and birthdays. We don't have to make any guesses, here: he was 6 in 4 ABY, and he is 32 now. So it is 30 ABY. As for the Star Wars: On the Front Lines, I would think its relevance would be superceded by the content of the novel itself. --consumethecanon (talk) 19:49, September 13, 2019 (UTC)
    • Following up on this - Star Wars: On the Front Lines places Bloodline in 28 ABY, but the content from the Bloodline itself puts the date at 30 ABY. Shouldn't we consider the book's content a more viable source than another resource? --consumethecanon (talk) 20:11, September 23, 2019 (UTC)

Force Collector placement[edit source]

Why is Force Collector placed before the 3PO one-shot on this timeline? Doesn't the main character get a vision of the events of the one-shot during the book? - Vanilulew standing by 01:32, January 3, 2020 (UTC)

Came here to ask this same question. -Alex

7.1 New message[edit source]

Social Media Sourcing[edit source]

With the new social media sourcing policy invalidating certain sources, are we able to keep the placements of items that were only able to be originally placed accurately on the timeline due to social media posts? Unsigned comment by GrandMoffM (talk • contribs).

1.1 Cleanup[edit source]

There should be a note on Master and Apprentice placing the Epilogue concurrent and after to The Phantom Menace. Unsigned comment by 72.234.245.52 (talk • contribs).

  • You could have added it yourself if you wanted, but I've added it for you --Lewisr (talk) 02:55, May 18, 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, platform seems to freeze when I try to make an edit

7.1 New message[edit source]

The time period for Dooku Jedi Lost should read 93-22 BBY. The 93 is approximate, but the story is all flashback dated from either just befor or after Attack of the Clones placing it at 22.

Jedi Temple Challenge[edit source]

Should this be included? The show does not break the fourth wall at all and seemingly is 100% in universe. Yes it is for children and silly, but the show seems to earnestly present itself as "in universe". Which makes me wonder, should it be added to the timeline?

68.61.159.250 13:58, June 19, 2020 (UTC)

  • I'm wondering about this as well. If I were to place it it would be sometime between Master & Apprentice or Dooku: Jedi Lost and the High Republic, seems to be a sort of height of the Jedi but not High Republic era. Ite93 (talk) 04:06, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

All of Chewbacca (2020) is missing[edit source]

Anyone know where they belong? MisinformedDNA (talk) 04:42, June 21, 2020 (UTC)

Jedi: Fallen Order: Dark temple[edit source]

Jedi: Fallen Order: Dark temple is not set after the game. The main story is set in 40 BBY or before because Poli Dapatian is shown sitting on the Jedi High council, and he was only on the council until 40 BBY. The prologues of issues 1-4 and the epilogue of issue 5 are set before Second Sister goes to Bogano to confront Cal (Source is Issue 5 Page 22) (Credit to Lewisr for catching that), I propose the Following order change:

  • Dooku: Jedi Lost
  • Jedi: Fallen Order: Dark temple 1
Prologue occurs concurrently to Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order
  • Jedi: Fallen Order: Dark temple 2
Prologue occurs immediately after Jedi: Fallen Order: Dark temple 1 Prologue
  • Jedi: Fallen Order: Dark temple 3
Prologue occurs immediately after Jedi: Fallen Order: Dark temple 2 Prologue
  • Jedi: Fallen Order: Dark temple 4
Prologue occurs immediately after Jedi: Fallen Order: Dark temple 3 Prologue
  • Jedi: Fallen Order: Dark temple 5
Epilogue occurs immediately after Jedi: Fallen Order: Dark temple 4 Prologue
  • Master and Apprentice

I'm not experienced in editing articles or anything, I just noticed a mistake while doing a full canon marathon, and wanted to try and correct it. If someone with more experience could change this that'd be great. N8thegr828 (talk) 01:36, June 24, 2020 (UTC)

  • The story with the 2nd Sister in the issues is set during the game, its before she goes to Bogano to confront Cal since on the last page she tells the purge troopers they are heading to Bogano. And she also mentions Cere and Cal by name --Lewisr (talk) 01:30, June 24, 2020 (UTC)
  • Missed that, Thanks N8thegr828 (talk) 01:36, June 24, 2020 (UTC)
    • No worries! Will make the changes now, thanks for bringing this up --Lewisr (talk) 02:10, June 24, 2020 (UTC)

Myths & Fables and Dark Legends placement[edit source]

I know that the placement of these in-universe tomes is not exactly known, but I do have some information that may help shed light on the placement of the "publication" in-universe of these books. Dark Legends seems to be a companion piece to Myths & Fables, and in the Target-exclusive story "Bakurat" it refers to Maz Kanata's castle in the present-tense, which to me placed the two books BEFORE Episode VII, because that is when Maz's castle is destroyed by the First Order. I personally place them in 34 ABY, after Phasma and close to when TFA occurs. Ite93 (talk) 04:34, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

  • Isn't the idea that these are in-universe stories that are told after the fact? Its possible for the Bakurat story to mention Maz's castle in present tense and the books be set after the castle is destroyed? --Lewisr (talk) 04:48, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
    • That is a possibility, but I feel the story would be written “Back when Max’s castle stood” since most stories are told in past tense because they happened in the past. Ite93 (talk) 15:22, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Portioning Out to Be More User Friendly[edit source]

This page is a regular stop for me when trying to figure out Star Wars timeline for what to read/watch next. However, with the addition of the High Republic material, I'm wondering if there is a way that it could be portioned out into subcategories to make it more user friendly. Use subject headings like "High Republic" "Age of Republic" "Age of Rebellion" & "Age of Resistance" since those have been used for canon media. Just a suggestion that might make it easier for non-regular attendees to find, for example, how Mandalorian fits in without having to scroll through everything High Republic and Clone Wars for example.

  • I could be wrong on this, but I believe we haven't created eras like this because, unlike in Legends, Lucasfilm hasn't created official publishing eras. VergenceScatter (talk) 21:22, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
  • The general problem is that, by doing so, you're restricting another important use of the timeline: a publication timeline. For me, my primary use of this page is sorting by the "Released" date - NOT by the IW year. If we portion them out into sections based on eras, then we now are unable to "sort by AUTHOR" and "sort by RELEASED" - we can ONLY do so within an era, which is severely limiting. Assuming that we could even DO the timeline by Era, I would think, then, that we'd want to make more filter-boxes at the top - so that the timeline appears exactly as it is now (a hugely unwieldy table that takes forever to load), but folks can "Show/Hide" "Age of Republic" and this that and the other thing. I don't necessarily think that's hugely useful, personally, but it would satisfy both feature-needs. --Morbus Iff (talk) 22:48, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
    • I like the idea of adding another filter, perhaps to the left of the year to have the Era, so that it is at least shown and could be hidden based on era so that both needs could be met. I would use the new eras shown by Lucasfilm in some new High Republic content. For example, from left to right we could have categories that say:
  • The High Republic | 232 BBY | N | Light of the Jedi | etc.
  • Fall of the Jedi | c. 40 BBY | N | Master & Apprentice | etc.
  • Reign of the Empire | 19 BBY | TV | The Bad Batch | etc.
  • Age of Rebellion | 5 BBY | TV | “Spark of Rebellion”
  • The New Republic | 4 ABY | C | Shattered Empire #3 | etc.
  • Rise of the First Order | 28 ABY | N | Bloodline | etc.

Ite93 (talk) 16:07, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

The Acolyte placement[edit source]

Obviously we are still guessing and placement isn’t exact, but I suggest moving The Acolyte tonAFYER The Vow of Silver Dawn. We are explicitly told that The Acolyte takes place in the final days of the High Republic, so it makes sense to place it at the end of the era, and The Vow of Silver Dawn is c. 82 BBY but not as explicitly the final days of the High Republic. So, I think The Acolyte should be placed after that book. Ite93 (talk) 15:59, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Galaxy of Adventures placement[edit source]

Lewisr, I'm going to need a better explanation for you undoing my Galaxy of Adventures: Yoda vs Dooku edit. "This is how we do it" is not sufficient. It is clearly out of order, as it is only a partial adaptation of Ep II, and begins well into the Ep II events, unlike the other Ep II adaptations, which begin (roughly) concurrently with the film. Its placement immediately after the film detracts from the chronological accuracy of the timeline. Tainb'ocu'chulainn (talk) 14:58, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Thoughts on a page for better explanation of criteria for the Canon Timeline?[edit source]

I wonder if it would be useful to create a completely separate page that would clearly outline the criteria for what is and is not included in the canon timeline. The discussions here are great but it might help have an organised page that explains things like why replica journals are not included and why the young readers stuff is. This would also provide the second function of freeing up discussion on this page to dates and placement since questions about why media is not included or missed may be discussed on the criteria page instead. There are a few canon books that have been missed or maybe there is a reason for their exclusion that can be explained in an organised manner - I think the Galaxy of Adventures chapter book, for example, should be included. As always, thanks to all the work everyone here does. AdonFox (talk) 18:11, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Good idea, and I agree. Though there's no reason for not laying out the criteria on the timeline itself. The criteria can be explained on the page's introduction. OOM 224 ༼༽talk༼༽ 18:37, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
    • Ok cool, thanks. I can start working on this now. I'll try and be as concise and clear as I can be but I think it is also worth detailing the the difference between book formats and how JR and YR novels are properly defined? If I am correct, all adult novels are published by Del Ray and the junior and young readers' books by Disney-Lucasfilm (in the US) and age 9 upwards on Disney books website means junior novels. Could someone confirm this? Thanks Edit: OK so I've just been checking and I think it seems to be the 6-8 age bracket and upwards on the Disney Books website that signifies a junior novel but there are quite a few exceptions to this so I am not really sure. I'll leave this open for now. AdonFox (talk) 21:07, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
      • Del Rey does most, but Disney Books/Disney-Lucasfilm Press also publishes some adult books, like The High Republic: Light of the Jedi. Their categorizing is so muddled, and so is ours. I'll try to sort it out but... oof. This may be a separate discussion on how to categorize non-adult books. Here we go... If you look at the main website navigation, they break it down along the top this way: 0-2 Years Old, 3-5 Years Old, 6-8 Years Old, 9-12 Years Old, Young Adult, Adult. If you look at individual pages for Star Wars books, however, the ones with age ranges are mostly 6-8 or 8-12—guess they can't decide what 8 year olds fit into?—with no ages for those labeled Young Adult or Adult. For the books with "Junior Novel" in the title or labeling, about half are listed as age range 8-12 and the other as 9-12. Others are "World of Reading" levels instead of ages—but some of those also put ages, and they overlap. Some World of Reading Level 1 say age range 3-5, but I've found both World of Reading Level 1 and World of Reading Level 2 that say age range 6-8, even though they're supposed to be reading levels not age ranges. (Read-along story books, btw, seem to be age range 6-8.) Wook-wise, I'm not sure where we got our category names Category:Canon young-reader novels and its parent category Category:Canon juvenile novels, but "young-reader" seems to be "anything not Young Adult or Adult" while "juvenile" seems to be "anything not Adult." -- Immi Thrax (talk) 01:14, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
        • hmmm yes it does seem a bit confusing on both ends. Thank you for your explanation though. In the intro that I have now added to the timeline I have tried to keep this open and just stated the we use these age ratings as "guidance". Of course please do edit if you think it needs changing. I get kinda obssessed over this stuff for my own personal timeline. I notice that Wikipedia makes the distinction between novels and children's books in their book list but they provide no source or info on how they came to this so I guess no one is really sure. AdonFox (talk) 01:35, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
          • Bonus fun: what booksellers like Amazon list doesn't necessarily match what the publisher lists, age ranges and reading levels are debatable between publishers and educators/social workers/other people who work with children, etc.! I may get a spreadsheet going to check that we're being consistent on the timeline, categories, and articles. Thank you for tackling that criteria writeup! Immi Thrax (talk) 01:55, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
  • I brought this up on Lewisr's talk page a couple weeks ago too. I'd be happy to contribute as well. Here were some of my thoughts:
When it comes to full adaptations, I agree that a standard order is fine, e.g. Film, Novel, JR novel, comic, graphic novel, whatever. Nitpicking words to find "what point in the pan down from space to planet does each media begin" is a bit much. However, for things like the GoA shorts that only adapt a part of the story, I believe they should be ordered by their actual beginning in the timeline. And currently, not every adaptation list is in the same order to begin with! VII goes F TV N JR YR JR YR GN C... and VIII goes F N JR YR GN C YR C TV. When presenting a chronological timeline, I think the accuracy of the timeline is more important than neatness.
Side note: catching up on the talk page (from the 6.5 years since I was last active on it) I feel there is a need for a list of rules/explanations for the timeline placements. Some examples:
  1. Sorting is done based on the opening of the narration
    1. Does not include prologues
    2. Does include IU narration (ex. Tales from Wild Space)
  2. Short story compendiums are broken out when each story has a separate title (ex. From a Certain Point of View). Compendiums with connecting narrations are not (Forces of Destiny JR)
  3. Defined order for full narrative adaptations: Film, Novel, JR, YR, Comic, Graphic Novel
  4. Instructions how to add new/unreleased content (especially to make table sort work)
  5. Explanation of the difference in classification of Novel/Junior Reader/Young Reader
  6. When "logical" timeline placement conflicts with official sources, defer to official sources
  • This could be linked in the page description and provide a convenient reference to defuse edit wars based on individual preferences.

Tainb'ocu'chulainn (talk) 16:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the info about placement: this all makes sense and I think it goes some way to clearing up a lot of discussion or confusion. While we have tried to explain criteria for inclusion on this timeline in the page introduction, we have not included anything relating to how placement is decided which, in retrospect, seems like a slight oversight on my part. This is quite important I think since chronology is the main reason most people visit this page and other timelines elsewhere handle this very differently. I do fear though that the intro becomes very long and cumbersome so we should try keeping it concise. I can try drafting a separate paragraph to explain info about placement in case the wookie elders think that it would necessary/helpful to add this. AdonFox (talk) 16:22, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
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