Talk:Tenebrae

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True body?

This is the body in question.

So, I'm curious, has anyone official ever confirmed the identity of the body encountered in Act 2 of the Jedi Knight story? Is this the true Emperor shrouded in wrappings, or is it yet another Voice? I don't want speculation, of course, just confirmation.--ARC Commander Colt (talk) 02:15, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

• The Voss Voice was confirmed to have been the Voice between 3,649 BBY—Act III, and the Hand's messages to the Wrath make it clear that the Emperor's body is in a sort of hibernation while controlling his Voice. Plus, the Encyclopedia makes it explicitly clear that the Emperor is incredibly terrified of death—that's why he created the Voice and the Children in the first place. While he's also supremely confident of his powers, it's highly unlikely that he would risk placing his true body in a situation where there is even the smallest possibility of harm, and the Jedi strike team was more than a possibility of harm. I don't know if that's confirmation enough for you, but that's what I determined during my research. Cade Calrayn 02:21, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
  • So if I'm reading you right, it's just another Voice. Huh.--ARC Commander Colt (talk) 02:30, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
    • To be specific, it's this Voice, yes. Cade Calrayn 02:32, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
      • But wouldn't that Voice still be stuck on Voss, or did he not go there until right before the Wrath is sent there?--ARC Commander Colt (talk) 02:39, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
        • Yeah, there's several months between the events on the Emperor's fortress and the death of that Voice, and the Emperor isn't on his fortress while the Hero is being trained as a Sith. The Emperor was freed from Voss only shortly before the Knight goes to Voss, as Scourge can sense the Emperor's presence when they go to the Dark Heart. Cade Calrayn 02:44, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Most Powerful Sith of the Old Republic era

The SWTOR Encyclopedia and 2 Codex Entries in Star Wars: The Old Republic make it clear that the Sith Emperor is the most powerful Sith Lord up until the the end of the Cold War and the onset of the Second Great Galactic War.

Should this be included in his profile? MasterOfEnlightenment (talk) 18:33, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

• So long as we source them and carefully word it so that it doesn't violate NPOV, I see no reason why we shouldn't. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 00:55, October 5, 2013 (UTC)
• EDIT: Actually, one final question: You alluded to two Codex entries that claimed him to be the most powerful Sith up to the onset of the Second Great Galactic War. Can you give me the specific Codex entries (names will be enough if necessary) so I can specify those particular sources in the powers and abilities section. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 01:36, October 5, 2013 (UTC)
  • As it's my FA, I'll add it in when I have time, though it's speculation to claim that the Emperor stops being the most powerful. Cade Calrayn 02:22, October 5, 2013 (UTC)
    • Well, all I can say is that any implications that he stopped being the most powerful after that point was not my intent. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 04:16, October 5, 2013 (UTC)
      • I have recently created a comprehensive profile about merits of Emperor Vitiate in a source known as comicvine: http://www.comicvine.com/profile/s_w_legend/blog/. I believe that this profile contains ample information that can be useful for consultations. -S_W_LeGenD (talk) 16:12, April 26, 2014 (UTC)

Realy dead in "Darth Plagueis"?

Can we be 100% sure he's dead? It was just said by Plagueis, but that only mean he think. he's dead. In TOR many ppl say he's dead and we know he isn't so it could still be a secret (or forgotten or anything)... I don't think we can be 100% sure that Plagueis is right ... --SoranPanoko (talk) 23:01, January 8, 2014 (UTC)

• Plagueis clearly refers to the Emperor as 'not being immortal, meaning that he's dead. We haven't seen his actual death yet, but he still dies. Cade Calrayn 23:05, January 8, 2014 (UTC)

Not being immortal just mean he can die... but that's not the point. He died official in TOR but he surived secretly, so maybe plagueis only think he's dead because the hole Galaxy think so, because he's still sleeping. Sure, he will die at some point, but since we don't know when, we can't be sure that he is allready dead... until they write a book or something about it--Soran 01:14, January 9, 2014 (UTC)

As energy can only be transformed or transferred, rather than created and/or destroyed, Plagueis might have been able to project his astral essence into a hidden, holocron-like device at the moment Palpatine killed the former's corporeal body. Similar to the Darkside Talisman of Karness Muur! So, the same thing might hold equally true for the last True Sith Emperpor.68.198.231.207 22:35, February 15, 2015 (UTC)User Carycomic

• Which is completely irrelevant. We don't write mights and maybes into our articles—just what we can confirm as factual. — DigiFluid^{(Whine here)} 00:26, February 18, 2015 (UTC)

But, as the SWEU has been ret-conned (by Lucas, himself), as "Legends of...," everything previously considered "factual" is now full of "mights" and "maybes" outside the canon of the films. :P 68.198.231.207 03:56, February 20, 2015 (UTC)User Carycomic

• As DigiFluid stated above, we only deal in facts, and will not add in "mights" and "maybes". Supreme Emperor (talk) 04:13, February 20, 2015 (UTC)

On that, I'm afraid we must permanently agree to disagree. As it is a fact, in itself, tha "legends" and "Facts" are usually mutually exclusive terms.