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Apparent errorEdit

Um... he eventually titled himself Warlord and controlled the entire Quelii Sector? I'm pretty sure that somewhere in CoPL or the Wraith books, Zsinj's territory is placed at a sizeable fraction of the Galaxy, perhaps even a third or so? Quelii (or more precisely, the Dathomir shipyard) is an important part of it, but the nearest thing he has to a capital is Iron Fist, wherever she might be. No? McEwok 00:18, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)

  • The text is copied from an incomplete, partial version of the major expansion[1] I was making to the main Wikipedia's article. So don't be too surpised if there are problems. I later added that he controlled the Quelii sector originally, and when he began his campaigns 'gainst the Empire and Rpeublic then it was at that point he controlled the 1/3s. --Maru 13:16, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)
    • Thanks - no problem. --McEwok 15:00, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

ForcesEdit

Did Zsinj ever give a name for his warlord empire or forces? I've got a list of the ships under his command. We could just do Zsinj fleet like Bakura task force or Solo fleet. Third Fleet: Backbreaker - LFRG, Counterpunch - CRK, Desolation - DRD, Disruptor - ISD, Flash Fire - DRD, Nashtah Bite - VSD Other:, Blood Gutter, Broadaxe Squadron, Chains of Justice, Iron Fist, Night Terror, Razor's Kiss, Red Gauntlet, Reprisal, Second Death, Serpent's Smile, Venom --SparqMan 06:45, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)

  • NEC refers to his realm as "Zsinj's Kingdom." Kuralyov 02:24, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

ImagesEdit

Zsinj-CTD

Zsinj sans mustache, from Cracken's Threat Dossier.

Are there no other images of this handsome gentleman? --Imp 01:55, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

  • There's one in the NEC, for those that have it and a scanner. Kuralyov 02:23, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
  • There's also one in Cracken's Threat Dossier, but I never got around to fitting it in. Here it is, if anyone wants to use it. I don't have much of an aesthetic sense, so I focus on text and technical issues. I know this article needs pictures, though. —Darth Culator (talk) 02:44, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

ActuallyEdit

The quote was

'Zsinj and lesser warlords were entrenched in a third of the galaxy'

Lesser warlords, being the quarter of the galaxy, assumedly, that made up Thrawns empire.

Zsinj was significant, as I saw it, because he controlled so much more than any One individual. More than any Moff, Grand Moff, individual warlord. Unsigned comment by 222.154.185.155 (talk • contribs).

  • The Rebellion Era Sourcebook says "he eventually takes control of one-third of the galaxy" without any qualifying terms like "almost one-third" or "known galaxy." —Darth Culator (talk) 23:46, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Curious. That would mean the Empire, having been reduced to 50% of the Galaxy by X-Wing Rogue Squadron (Not even counting the loss of Coruscant and surrounding systems) had been reduced to something like 17% of the galaxy, and recaptured a huge chunk of it, before Ackbar defeated Rogriss. Regardless, that quote was from CopL, I believe. Unsigned comment by 222.154.14.161 (talk • contribs).

Useful commentEdit

He's fat and ugly -Fang the Wise 22:08, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Technical ErrorEdit

Apparently the artist that drew the picture of Zsinj fudged up. Jedi Wolf 7:36, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

New QuoteEdit

I was loking around and I found this Quote and i think it really works

Han: Did you know that he is really a genius? He can curse fluently in nearly 60 languages. Now I have heard some obscenities in my time, but this man has a special talent. Isolder: You know he's going to put your head on a platter, don't you? And considering Zsinj's reputation, he might even eat it. Han: Yeah, well it keeps life interesting.

--The Courtship of Princess Leia Valin "Tnu" "Shido" Suul 23:54, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Name?Edit

How are you supposed to pronounce this guy's name? I don't think there's a precedent for a z right next to an s. Unsigned comment by 72.155.1.120 (talk • contribs).

  • I'll have to doublecheck an see if the NEGTC has a pronunciation guide for him, but I'm always just pronounced with with the S being silent. - JMAS 01:14, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

RemoveEdit

This should be removed as an FA. NO SOURCES! Jediknight19bby (Jedi High Council Chambers!) 00:11, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Hence the {{Citation}} tag at the top of the article. If nothing happens with it, then it's up the Inq's to decide it's fate. Greyman(Paratus) 00:21, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
  • What are you talking about? It looks pretty well sourced to me. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 01:02, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Heh, true. I hadn't even looked through the article to see if it was indeed sourced, I just looked at the {{Citation}} tag at the top. Greyman(Paratus) 18:23, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
      • Apparently you both missed my little joke. I referenced it within an hour of when he posted that first message. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 18:35, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
        • lol, yup. I missed that one. Greyman(Paratus) 18:38, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Please editEdit

In the "Zsinj's rank and uniform" portion of the article, the line "...but in an often-overlooked overlooked line of dialogue in Courtship of Princess Leia..." makes me cringe. JoelBray 16:55, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Edit in top-summaryEdit

I've changed
"...rivaling both the New Republic and the legitimate Imperial authorities."
to
"...rivaling both the New Republic and the Galactic Empire."

The reason is that it is not a NPOV. Calling the Empire the legitimate authorities is choosing a side. Naming the "Rebels" the New Republic is not wrong, as that is the correct name of their "organisation" during Zsinj's time.
Thoughts? Agreements? Disagreements? Tell me!
--Rom Ulan 05:31, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

  • I believe it was referring to the actual Empire, which he himself was no longer a part of, having become an independent warlord. -- Ozzel 05:52, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but the article choose a side by calling it the legitimate authorities. And that is a NPOV-violation. --Rom Ulan 15:27, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

  • I think it meant the legitimate Empire as opposed to the various illegitimate offshoot Empires formed by the likes of Kaine and various others. So it meant that the Empire is legitimate vs. other empires, and not the Empire is legitimate vs. the New Republic, if you know what I'm saying. That said, your change doesn't invalidate this and is probably clearer. :) -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 15:30, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

I understand what you are saying, and now I also understand the sentence better. But it is less chance of a missunderstanding (like I did) now :-) --Rom Ulan 05:29, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

skincolour? Edit

why do you show the code for his skincolour? is that code listed as canon? or just the code for pink...? Peace, love, Death Star -- --213.200.131.74 13:12, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

A third of the galaxy Edit

The New Essential Chronology seems to have changed the size of Zsinj's territory. It no longer mentions that he specifically controlled a third of known space as a few older references do. It says he controlled enough to warrant the New Republic's attention after they ousted Isard and took Coruscant. The only solid references that mentions anything close is in Courtship Of Princess Leia where Han says that warlords and other Imperials had entrenched themselves into more than a third of the galaxy. That figure included the Empire proper, Zsinj, and the minor warlords.

I think the apparent change in the New Essential Chronology fits, as the New Republic controlled 50% of the galaxy by 8 ABY, the Empire had at least a quarter, which meant that at that time, Zsinj couldn't have had a third. That wouldn't have been possible given the numbers given for the New Republic and Empire, and it also would mean that Zsinj's territory was bigger than that of the legitimate Empire, which doesn't make sense.

Though a number isn't specifically stated, I'd say by the way things are worded, that Zsinj controlled anywhere from 10% to 15% of the known galaxy. Leaving the Empire with their 25% or so, and the New Republic with 50%. The remaining percentage being neutral.

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