Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations/Csilla

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Csilla

• Nominated by: Toqgers (talk) 22:34, September 22, 2019 (UTC)
• Nomination comments:

(3 ECs/3 Users/6 Total)

Support

1. Welcome to the CAN, Toqgers! Fan26 (Talk) 00:08, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
2. Nice job--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 00:27, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
3. Nice work for your first nomination! Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 02:28, September 25, 2019 (UTC)
4. Good work, indeed. Imperators II^(Talk) 06:50, September 25, 2019 (UTC)
5. —spookywilloww^talk 10:07, September 25, 2019 (UTC)
6. Good work. - AV-6R7^{Crew Pit} 18:43, September 27, 2019 (UTC)

Object

Fan

• Grid coordinates are considered OOU and placed in the BtS, not the article body. Fan26 (Talk) 22:38, September 22, 2019 (UTC)
  • To my understanding in canon they are considered in-universe information.--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 22:40, September 22, 2019 (UTC)
    • Oh, that's exclusively legends then? My bad. Fan26 (Talk) 22:43, September 22, 2019 (UTC)
      • To be honest I just went with what I saw on existing comprehensive articles haha. That's really good to know! Toqgers (talk) 22:50, September 22, 2019 (UTC)
• Context for Thrawn would be nice. Fan26 (Talk) 22:43, September 22, 2019 (UTC)
  • How is it now? Added that he's a Grand Admiral with the Empire. Toqgers (talk) 23:00, September 22, 2019 (UTC)
    • Yeah, that works. Fan26 (Talk) 00:06, September 23, 2019 (UTC)

Ruiz

• The BTS should mention first the canon information and then the Legends information--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 22:46, September 22, 2019 (UTC)
  • Made change. Toqgers (talk) 22:59, September 22, 2019 (UTC)

Anil

• As far as I remember, I think there is some talk in the novel Thrawn that suggests the Chiss and their home planet were largely unknown to the galaxy. If that's the case, you should mention that in the article too.
  • I've added that now. Toqgers (talk) 04:25, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
• When formatting filenames, such as images, please use underscores instead of spaces. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 01:08, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
  • Done. Toqgers (talk) 04:03, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
• The "sector" field of the infobox is for specific sectors, so I'd suggest leaving it empty. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 01:15, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
  • I'm not so sure about that one, I initially considered making this objection, but the Datapad shows that there's a small space similar to Legends Chiss Space surrounding Csilla with the name Chiss Ascendancy. This is similar to the Legends Catlia system which has Chiss Space.--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 01:56, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
    • Well, I see your point, but I don't think we should make such an assumption in a canon article because of something from its Legends counterpart. For all we know, that space labeled as "Chiss Ascendancy" in the Datapad could include multiple formal sectors. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 02:23, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
      • I'll be taking this issue to the talk page, given that the discussion is ongoing there.--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 02:44, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
      • I honestly wasn't sure about it myself and figured if I was misinterpreting it someone would speak up. I mainly interpreted it Chiss Ascendancy label as a sector and not just a reference to the political entity because the only other label in Datapad for with that text size is for Bothan Space which is definitely a sector. It's a bit confusing that Chiss Ascendancy/Legends covers both topics in one article ("Chiss Space" probably should have its own imo), but did make me feel it made at least some sense to interpret the label that way. If anyone else has an opinion, we could just go with consensus. Toqgers (talk) 02:46, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
  • I've gone ahead and removed it from the sector field, because the discussion on the talk page shows there's too much uncertainty. The planet's link to the Chiss Ascendancy is covered by affiliation anyways, even if it does turn out to definitively be an acceptable name for the sector also. Toqgers (talk) 04:46, September 24, 2019 (UTC)
• (Reviewing note) When pipelinking, please always place all characters inside the link brackets per the Manual of Style. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 02:28, September 25, 2019 (UTC)

Imp

• The article needs to be updated. Please see our most recent Canon comprehensive article, Skynara, for an example of how to handle that. Imperators II^(Talk) 07:44, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
  • Can you clarify what you mean by this? Toqgers (talk) 16:28, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
  • Okay nvm I see what you mean. Toqgers (talk) 17:17, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
    • Updated the sources and behind the scenes sections accordingly. Toqgers (talk) 17:35, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
• Another thing you should take from the Skynara article is how to reference Standard Galactic Grid. Imperators II^(Talk) 07:44, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
  • Done. Toqgers (talk) 20:03, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
    • You didn't change anything about how it's referenced. Imperators II^(Talk) 20:11, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
      • Okay, I misunderstood. I thought you meant the way I phrased it was off. Well coordinates sounds better than square and I've fixed it now! Toqgers (talk) 22:13, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
• Please add an image category. Imperators II^(Talk) 07:44, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
  • Can you clarify what I need to do for this? I know the original map image wasn't in the category "Maps of the Unknown Regions," which the one I've replaced it with is. Is there anything else that needs done with the image? Toqgers (talk) 15:50, September 25, 2019 (UTC)
    • That meant that you should always add {{Imagecat}} to an article if applicable. Anil already did this for you in his copy-edit. And I forgot to strike the objection, so apologies for the confusion. Imperators II^(Talk) 16:10, September 25, 2019 (UTC)
• You should upload a wider crop of the map for the infobox. The whole point of map images like that in infoboxes, since they don't technically depict planets themselves, is that they provide some information about the planets' location relative to nearby astronomical objects. Imperators II^(Talk) 07:44, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
  • Would the map image from Where in the Galaxy Are the Worlds of Star Wars: The Force Awakens? serve better, since it demonstrates the proximity to Ilum and the Starkiller Base origin point? And digital is always nice too, since scans don't always retain original picture quality haha. Toqgers (talk) 17:09, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
    • Both the TFABG map and the one in the SW.com TFA article depict Csilla and the Starkiller Base origin point, so I guess I'd be fine with whichever you choose, as long as you crop it wide enough to include both objects (but not too wide to draw the viewer's attention away from Csilla). Imperators II^(Talk) 17:52, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
      • I've replaced the image with one from SW.com that better illustrates where Csilla is in relation to the other nearby places Toqgers (talk) 22:59, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
• "This means the events of Star Wars: Episode VIII The Last Jedi, including the First Order attack on the Resistance fleet, also take place in 34 ABY." — why? Imperators II^(Talk) 06:28, September 24, 2019 (UTC)
  • Oh, because the evacuation of D'Qar is directly after TFA. Would it be better to use Han's death/Battle of Starkiller Base as a point of reference, since Galactic Atlas explicitly date's that and the general point is really that's it's during or after the sequel trilogy? I picked the TLJ event since it's a bit later in the timeline, but they're all pretty close together. Toqgers (talk) 15:50, September 24, 2019 (UTC)
  • Okay I've added a sentence noting that The Last Jedi takes place shortly after The Force Awakens. Toqgers (talk) 21:53, September 24, 2019 (UTC)

AV

• Does the Thrawn novel provide any timeline clues regarding when the Empire discovered Thrawn? If so, I like to see that information integrated into the section that discusses the obscurity of Csilla. - AV-6R7^{Crew Pit} 16:37, September 27, 2019 (UTC)
  • We know it was between 13 BBY and 11 BBY based on the Del Rey timeline placing it between Solo (13 BBY prologue) and A New Dawn (11 BBY). Give me a minute, I'll add that to the sentence. Toqgers (talk) 17:28, September 27, 2019 (UTC)
  • Okay, done. Let me know what you think! Toqgers (talk) 17:39, September 27, 2019 (UTC)

Comments

• Should you mention that the artist learned of the planet and recorded it in their journal?--Editoronthewiki (talk) 23:17, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
  • Just added some info on that. Interesting counterpoint to the Empire and Lysatra myths knowing next to knowing about Csilla. What do you think? Toqgers (talk) 04:31, September 24, 2019 (UTC)

Approved as a Comprehensive article by EduCorps 03:16, September 30, 2019 (UTC)