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[23:00:17] <exiledjedi> All right, welcome to Meeting 31.
[23:00:29] <exiledjedi> Starting off with old articles:
[23:00:37] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Crystalplas
[23:00:44] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Crystalplas
[23:00:48] <exiledjedi> Should be fixed.
[23:00:49] <exiledjedi> Keep
[23:00:59] <CorellianPremier> Yep, keep
[23:01:05] <dogma> keep
[23:01:38] <exiledjedi> Crystalplas kept.
[23:01:43] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Heavy_blaster_arm
[23:01:48] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Heavy_blaster_arm
[23:01:48] <Cade> Sorry, car
[23:02:00] <exiledjedi> No change.
[23:02:05] <exiledjedi> Kill
[23:02:11] <dogma> KIll
[23:02:12] <Cade> Kill
[23:02:18] <CorellianPremier> Ex-ter-me-nate
[23:02:29] <exiledjedi> Heavy blaster arm killed.
[23:02:34] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Third_Legion
[23:02:38] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Third_Legion
[23:02:41] <exiledjedi> No change.
[23:02:43] <exiledjedi> Kill
[23:02:51] <dogma> kill
[23:02:55] <CorellianPremier> kill it
[23:03:18] <exiledjedi> Third Legion killed.
[23:03:36] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Three-eyed_Kinyenian_potato
[23:03:42] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Three-eyed_Kinyenian_potato
[23:03:45] <exiledjedi> Should be fixed.
[23:03:47] <exiledjedi> Keep
[23:03:55] <CorellianPremier> Sure, keep
[23:03:59] <dogma> keep
[23:04:19] <exiledjedi> Bad Gran pun kept.
[23:04:26] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tusken_language_pack
[23:04:30] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Tusken_language_pack
[23:04:35] <exiledjedi> No change.
[23:04:37] <exiledjedi> Kill
[23:04:41] <dogma> kill
[23:04:46] <CorellianPremier> Kill them all
[23:04:56] <exiledjedi> Tusken language pack killed.
[23:05:02] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tusken_relic_cave
[23:05:09] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Tusken_relic_cave
[23:05:12] <exiledjedi> No change.
[23:05:15] <exiledjedi> Kill
[23:05:24] <dogma> kill
[23:05:40] <CorellianPremier> kill
[23:05:51] <exiledjedi> Tusken relic cave killed.
[23:05:58] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Unidentified_Cathar_Jedi_%28Telekinesis%29
[23:06:05] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Unidentified_Cathar_Jedi_%28Telekinesis%29
[23:06:27] <exiledjedi> This has been worked on, but still needs some additional work.
[23:06:35] <dogma> extend
[23:07:03] <exiledjedi> Basically, the timeframe needs to be sourced correctly.
[23:07:21] <exiledjedi> Extend is fine with me.
[23:07:31] <CorellianPremier> Fine, extend
[23:07:52] <exiledjedi> Unidentified Cathar Jedi (Telekinesis) extended.
[23:08:07] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Unidentified_Kel_Dor_Sith_Lord
[23:08:12] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Unidentified_Kel_Dor_Sith_Lord
[23:08:16] <exiledjedi> Should be fixed.
[23:08:17] <exiledjedi> Keep
[23:08:21] <Cade> Keep
[23:08:23] <CorellianPremier> Yep, keep
[23:08:26] <dogma> keep
[23:08:36] <exiledjedi> Unidentified Kel Dor Sith Lord kept.
[23:09:10] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Unit_6
[23:09:16] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Unit_6
[23:09:35] <exiledjedi> One minor thing here: After the restructuring, some of the sections are unsourced.
[23:09:58] <exiledjedi> If someone fixes that, I will vote keep.
[23:10:04] <CorellianPremier> On it
[23:10:22] <Cade> Keep
[23:10:47] <CorellianPremier> Done. Keep
[23:10:51] <dogma> keep
[23:11:02] <exiledjedi> Keep
[23:11:06] <exiledjedi> Unit 6 kept.
[23:11:22] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Zalor_Minister
[23:11:28] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:EC/Zalor_Minister
[23:12:01] <exiledjedi> The current reference needs information that backs up the fact that the Battle of Hoth was not immediately at the start of 3 ABY.
[23:12:17] <Cade> Hmmm.
[23:12:29] <CorellianPremier> I'm not following. The source says that it is in 3 ABY
[23:12:42] <exiledjedi> Which source says this?
[23:12:47] <Cade> Then why does our Battle of Zaloriis article say 2.5-3?
[23:12:54] <CorellianPremier> Essental Atlas
[23:13:03] <Cade> ^_^
[23:13:11] <exiledjedi> Yes, but how does that place Zaloriis in 3 ABY.
[23:13:36] <exiledjedi> Just because a later battle is in 3 ABY doesn't mean the one before it is.
[23:13:49] <exiledjedi> They still had to find the Rebel base.
[23:13:50] <CorellianPremier> The battle is probably speculation
[23:14:03] <Cade> The battle article or the dating of the battle?
[23:14:14] <CorellianPremier> The date on the battle
[23:14:25] <CorellianPremier> In the article
[23:14:30] <Cade> It sounds like your saying 3 ABY is speculation, IMO
[23:15:26] <Cade> I vote probe based on this discussion
[23:15:28] <CorellianPremier> Yeah...I can fix it to say "about 3 ABY"
[23:15:44] <exiledjedi> What is the previous mission?
[23:16:13] <CorellianPremier> Reyta-firmly in 0 ABY
[23:16:36] <Cade> 2 ABY is basically a dead zone compared to 0, 1, and 3 ABY
[23:16:53] <exiledjedi> What intelligence does Vader find?
[23:17:27] <CorellianPremier> That the Rebels are in the Elrood sector
[23:17:52] <exiledjedi> Uh, Hoth isn't in that sector.
[23:17:56] <Cade> Yeah....
[23:18:14] <Cade> That sounds like it's relating to the Spreading the Rebellion stuff
[23:18:22] <Cade> X-Wing vs TIE Fighter
[23:18:46] <Cade> Which is post-Hoth.
[23:18:51] <Cade> Let's move on and probe.
[23:19:01] <exiledjedi> Extend
[23:19:08] <Cade> Ah
[23:19:10] <Cade> Extend
[23:19:34] <CorellianPremier> Extend
[23:19:38] <dogma> extend
[23:19:50] <exiledjedi> Zalor Minister extended.
[23:19:56] <exiledjedi> On to new articles:
[23:20:04] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Barracks_D4
[23:20:35] <exiledjedi> I think it is correct now. It's vague, but it pretty much has to be.
[23:20:55] <CorellianPremier> Agreed
[23:21:00] <exiledjedi> Keep
[23:21:07] <Cade> Keep
[23:21:11] <dogma> keep
[23:21:17] <exiledjedi> Barracks D4 kept.
[23:21:19] <CorellianPremier> keep
[23:21:30] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Barracks_D5
[23:21:33] <exiledjedi> Should be fixed.
[23:21:36] <exiledjedi> Keep
[23:21:41] <CorellianPremier> Yep, keep
[23:21:55] <dogma> keep
[23:22:06] <exiledjedi> Barracks D5 kept.
[23:22:18] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chasdemonus_Route
[23:22:24] <exiledjedi> This appears to be fixed.
[23:22:26] <exiledjedi> Keep
[23:22:28] <Cade> Keep
[23:22:44] <dogma> keep
[23:23:26] <exiledjedi> Chasdemonus Route kept.
[23:23:32] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Coil-Cell_Needler
[23:23:40] <exiledjedi>     The color of the blaster bolts fired from the weapon should be mentioned in the article.
[23:23:40] <exiledjedi>     This could really use a better image. 
[23:24:02] <dogma> probe
[23:24:02] <exiledjedi> Probe
[23:24:08] <CorellianPremier> Yep, probe
[23:24:09] <Cade> Probe
[23:24:16] <exiledjedi> Coil-Cell Needler probed.
[23:24:18] <Cade> I can get the images eventually
[23:24:36] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jamiron
[23:24:49] <exiledjedi> Another article with a really bad image.
[23:25:01] <dogma> probe
[23:25:03] <exiledjedi> Probe
[23:25:07] <Cade> Get Tope to replace it :P
[23:25:08] <Cade> Probe
[23:25:15] <CorellianPremier> Probe
[23:25:25] <exiledjedi> Jamiron probed.
[23:25:36] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Luilris_mushroom_pie
[23:25:45] <exiledjedi>     Part of the body needs to be in game mechanics tags.
[23:25:45] <exiledjedi>     The body doesn't make it sound like Yraka Nex was the creator.
[23:25:45] <exiledjedi>     The closure of SWG needs to be mentioned and sourced in the BTS. 
[23:25:47] <exiledjedi> Probe
[23:25:53] <CorellianPremier> Sure, probe
[23:25:53] <dogma> probe
[23:25:59] <Cade> Probe
[23:26:04] <exiledjedi> Luilris mushroom pie probed.
[23:26:14] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mandalore_City
[23:26:19] <exiledjedi> Should be fixed now.
[23:26:22] <exiledjedi> Spare
[23:26:29] <dogma> spare
[23:26:35] <Cade> Spare
[23:26:44] <CorellianPremier> spare
[23:27:07] <exiledjedi> Mandalore City spared.
[23:27:12] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Maze_of_Tatooine
[23:27:18] <exiledjedi> The closure of SWG should be mentioned and sourced in the article.
[23:27:35] <exiledjedi> I'll also note that the era is only partially included here.
[23:27:37] <Cade> Probe
[23:27:40] <exiledjedi> Probe
[23:27:44] <CorellianPremier> Probe
[23:27:47] <dogma> probe
[23:27:53] <exiledjedi> Maze of Tatooine probed.
[23:28:04] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mol_Ni'mai's_hut
[23:28:11] <exiledjedi>     Part of the body needs to be in game mechanics tags.
[23:28:11] <exiledjedi>     The shutdown of SWG should be mentioned and sourced in the BTS.
[23:28:11] <exiledjedi>     The update release date needs to be sourced. 
[23:28:35] <exiledjedi> Probe (These two are literally some of our most boring articles.)
[23:28:45] <Cade> Probe
[23:28:46] <CorellianPremier> Probe
[23:28:46] <dogma> probe
[23:29:05] <exiledjedi> Some dude's house probed.
[23:29:19] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nebula_Forso
[23:29:30] <exiledjedi> The article should not include "non-canon" Legends with "canon" Legends in the body. All of the "non-canon" Legends should be reworded and included in the BTS. Some of the BTS will need to be reworked as well due to this restructuring. 
[23:29:38] <exiledjedi> Probe
[23:29:43] <Cade> Probe
[23:29:46] <CorellianPremier> Probe
[23:29:53] <dogma> probe
[23:30:05] <exiledjedi> Nebula Forso probed.
[23:30:14] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nield's_village
[23:30:19] <exiledjedi> Should be fixed.
[23:30:25] <exiledjedi> Spare
[23:30:34] <Cade> Spare
[23:30:39] <CorellianPremier> Spare
[23:30:44] <dogma> spare
[23:30:52] <exiledjedi> Nield's village spared.
[23:31:04] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Pleiades
[23:31:10] <exiledjedi> Needs an update
[23:31:12] <exiledjedi> Probe
[23:31:23] <CorellianPremier> Yep, probe
[23:31:43] <Cade> Probe
[23:31:49] <dogma> probe
[23:31:56] <exiledjedi> Pleiades probed.
[23:32:07] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tatooine_Dune_Speeder
[23:32:14] <exiledjedi>     A description of the airspeeder in the picture is needed.
[23:32:14] <exiledjedi>     The shutdown of SWG needs to be mentioned and sourced in the BTS.
[23:32:14] <exiledjedi>     The release date of the update is not self-sourcing and cannot be sourced to the game. 
[23:32:17] <exiledjedi> Probe
[23:32:23] <dogma> probe
[23:32:30] <CorellianPremier> Probe
[23:32:45] <exiledjedi> Tatooine Dune Speeder probed.
[23:33:04] <exiledjedi> And now, one of the worst articles I have seen in a long time:
[23:33:12] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/TC-17
[23:33:21] <exiledjedi>     Looking at the novel, I think the name of the weapon is supposed to be TC-17 long-range blaster rifle.
[23:33:21] <exiledjedi>     The novel says that the rifle had enough power for a dozen shots, not ten. The guy using it even fires 12 shots.
[23:33:21] <exiledjedi>     It notes that the range is well over 300 meters, which is different than just saying over 300 meters. The range in the infobox is incorrect.
[23:33:21] <exiledjedi>     The novel mentions that each squad had a sniper assigned, but I do not see a reference to each squad having a TC-17. Someone should verify to make sure it isn't mentioned separately.
[23:33:21] <exiledjedi>     Looking at the page for the novel, I believe that additional sourcing is needed for the 1002 BBY date.
[23:33:21] <exiledjedi>     The full release date is not self-sourcing.
[23:33:21] <exiledjedi>     The article should explicitly mention that it was a sniper rifle.
[23:33:21] <exiledjedi>     When talking about the TC-22 blaster rifle, the novel says the following: "The aim was off just slightly, a common problem with all TC models. They had good range and power, but over time their scopes could lose precise calibration." This should also be mentioned in this article. 
[23:33:34] <dogma> that sentence. ugh
[23:33:39] <Cade> Probe
[23:33:41] <exiledjedi> Probe, probe, probe
[23:34:10] <dogma> probe
[23:34:14] <CorellianPremier> Uh sure, probe
[23:34:34] <exiledjedi> TC-17 probed.
[23:34:48] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Xuvva_Hunter's_Sport_Rifle
[23:35:01] <exiledjedi>     The color of the bolts fired by the weapon should be mentioned.
[23:35:01] <exiledjedi>     The better image needs to be uploaded and used in this article. 
[23:35:04] <exiledjedi> Probe
[23:35:48] <Cade> Probe
[23:35:56] <CorellianPremier> probe
[23:36:01] <dogma> probe
[23:36:10] <exiledjedi> Xuvva Hunter's Sport Rifle probed.
[23:36:19] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Zrak_system
[23:36:27] <exiledjedi> The article should not include "non-canon" Legends with "canon" Legends in the body. All of the "non-canon" Legends should be reworded and included in the BTS. Some of the BTS will need to be reworked as well due to this restructuring. 
[23:36:31] <exiledjedi> Probe
[23:36:38] <Cade> Probe
[23:36:44] <CorellianPremier> Probe
[23:36:46] <dogma> probe
[23:36:49] <exiledjedi> Zrak system probed.
[23:37:01] <exiledjedi> And now, there is one discussion item.
[23:37:06] <exiledjedi> From Hanzo.
[23:37:15] <exiledjedi> Holding Back the Tide — Star Wars: Republic 61: Dead Ends (21 BBY), the only thing that mentions Valorum spent a considerable amount of time and wealth in making the memoir, is an overall continuity mess courtesy of TCW having Valorum alive in "The Lost One" (20 BBY). Given the fact the comic presented some new info pertaining to Valorum's memoir, I'd say a bts note discussing the comic's overall continuity is
[23:37:15] <exiledjedi> sues is in order. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 20:57, August 30, 2015 (UTC) 
[23:37:23] <exiledjedi> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Holding_Back_the_Tide
[23:38:00] <Cade> Probe, I guess?
[23:38:09] <exiledjedi> Yeah, probe...
[23:38:36] <exiledjedi> Just one of those articles TCW screwed up.
[23:38:44] <dogma> probe then
[23:38:56] <CorellianPremier> Probe
[23:39:02] <exiledjedi> Holding Back the Tide probed.
[23:39:39] <exiledjedi> Supreme Emperor is responsible for scheduling.
[23:39:51] <exiledjedi> I'll volunteer to take care of the paperwork.
[23:40:04] <exiledjedi> Thanks for coming to the meeting.
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