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Jaden Korr

  • Nominated by: QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 13:28, March 10, 2018 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Unfortunately, I wasn't able to see the article through the nomination process the last time. However, I have put a lot of work into this and would really like to try nominating it again. I have made my best effort to address the outstanding objections from the last nom, as well as making overall adjustments to the article, mostly having to do with paragraph size.

(1 Inqs/3 Users/4 Total)

(Votes required: 2 Inqvote(s) required to reach minimum. Additional 1 user or 1 Inq vote required to pass.)

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  1. Inqvote.png Nicely written. Supreme Emperor (talk) 05:30, June 14, 2019 (UTC)
    Clearly a ton of effort was put into this article. Deserves the nomination. Shayanomer (talk) 08:17, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  2. Awesome stuff. Tomotron Revanchist Sith.svg (talk) 09:18, February 5, 2020 (UTC)
  3. --Editoronthewiki (talk) 00:00, September 17, 2020 (UTC)

Object

Exiled Jedi
Infobox / intro
  • Looking at the BTS and his appearance in Jedi Academy, I'm thinking that it would be best to leave off the circa 1 ABY birth date, unless there is more information backing this estimate up. From what is in the reference, all we have is one guy thinking that he appears to be about 40 in 41 ABY. Just because he appears to be forty, that doesn't mean that he actually is close to that age. He could be considerably older and just look younger. I'd still mention the age he appears in the P&T, but I don't think it is enough to specify a birth date from.
    • Age removed from infobox and bio. P&T slightly tweaked. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
Biography - Disciples of Ragnos crisis
  • Does the game identify the Falcon as a YT-1300 freighter or say that it was famous?
  • Based on recent review of the R5 droid, does the game call the droid an R5 unit? If not, it will need additional sourcing.
    • Yes, it specifically calls it an "R5 droid." QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
  • Does the game identify his fighter as a Z-95 Headhunter?
    • The game files for the ship refer to it as a Z-95. Also there exists a cheat code "spawn Z-95" that spawns Jaden's ship. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
  • Do we know that the Blenjeel merchant ship was attacked by an Interdictor-class Star Destroyer. The article for the attack calls it an Immobilizer 418 cruiser, and the page for the Star Detroyer does not have Jedi Academy as an appearance.
    • The game refers to it as an "Interdictor cruiser." I'm not that great with starship designations, so I'm unsure which one it refers to. Any ideas? QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
  • Does the game provide the full name for the T-65 X-wing starfighter?
  • "The battle was challenging for Korr" How does the game present this information?
    • Mostly just game mechanics, nothing really IU that states so. Reworded. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 16:38, October 13, 2018 (UTC)
  • Is the name "Dreadnaught-class heavy cruiser" used by the game?
    • It's called an "Imperial dreadnaught" in the game. I've constructed an external ref; take a look if it works. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
  • Does the game identify the ship at Korriban as an Imperial II-class Star Destroyer. Sourcing something as an Imperial II-class ship is a little more difficult unless the source specifies it.
Personality and Traits
  • "He preferred to keep his hair short, but he had let his facial hair grow out by 41 ABY, and he styled it in a neatly trimmed goatee," As you sourced the 41 BBY date to another reference in the biography, I am assuming the same needs to be done here as well.
  • "Korr was struggling with doubt regarding his role in the Force." I am a little confused here, what does the image under eternal thinker have to do with this phrase?
    • I was struggling to find any relevant images to illustrate that section to be honest. The idea was that the picture was a symbol of the Force, and Jaden struggled with finding his role in the Force…yeah, whatever. Removed. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
  • Under Other talents you have two straight references to Crosscurrent. Is one of them supposed to be something else or is it just a duplicate?
Equipment
  • Under this section you source 41 ABY to Crosscurrent which is inconsistent with how you sourced it earlier.
BTS - Character development
  • "Korr was originally going to be called Atton Rand..." For this one, do we know that Atton Rand was going to be the name of the main character? He could have been Rosh Penin or somebody else unless we have something more than the Easter egg quote to back that up.
    • Removed that part and the quote. There's no actual official word on this, AFAIK. Only widespread fan assumption that he meant Jaden. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
  • Why is reference 11 (it appears to be dating the Battle of Hoth) used as a source in the second paragraph of the Character development section.
  • For the second paragraph of the character development section, I don't believe the sources provided are sufficient to back up that entire paragraph.
    • I fail to see the issue here. Are you talking about the first part of the paragraph? Which discusses how he went unreferenced? Well, how do you source someone not appearing somewhere? QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
      • I think I misread what year the Fury novel was released and thought there were additional reference books that he appeared in before he was referenced.
  • Does the Crosscurrent novel mention a January 26, 2010 release date? I suspect that this will need additional referencing.
BTS - Character customization and appearance
  • "The first information on Korr's identity came from the 2005 reference book The New Essential Chronology, which addressed Korr as a "he," invalidating all female options in the game." I don't think you want to have the Battle of Hoth date to reference this.
  • "Although it did not necessarily specify his species, it excluded Rodian and Kel Dor from consideration, as those species are naturally hairless, only leaving Human as a possibility." Unless the novel mentions that those species do not have hair, you will need to source that to something else.
  • "such as the goatee that Korr wore as of 41 ABY" Is the 41 ABY date presented directly in the actual novel outside of any Del Rey timelines? If not, you will need to provided additional referencing.
BTS - Jedi Academy alternative ending
  • "confirmed to be proper in future Legends material" This needs to be sourced to something other than the game.
BTS - Errors and contradictions
  • "although Riptide does establish that Korr's appearances post-41 ABY are in the Iteration's body" Is the 41 ABY date presented directly in the actual novel outside of any Del Rey timelines? If not, you will need to provided additional referencing.
  • "This is incorrect, as the character does indeed appear in the latter novel." This cannot be sourced to the ERC.
  • There is some sort of error with reference 51.
  • "Through Khedryn Faal's estimation, Crosscurrent gives Korr's approximate age during the events of the novel as forty years old, which would put him at thirteen years old during the events of Jedi Academy, set in 14 ABY." Per what I said above, I don't think this an inconsistency as much as it is an incorrect estimation of his age.
  • "In Crosscurrent, Korr laments distancing himself from Valin Horn, indicating some sort of relationship between the two. After the publication of the novel, when asked what their relationship was, Kemp said that he could not reveal it yet." I don't think the referenced forum post is the correct one as I do not see any mention of Valin Horn.
  • "Riptide states that Korr entered the Jedi Praxeum nine years after the death of Emperor Palpatine, which occurred in 4 ABY, according to The New Essential Chronology." I would reference the first part of this sentence to Crosscurrent and then change then move the source into a reference. There really isn't any reason to include the source in the paragraph itself.
  • "However, the events of the Jedi Academy video game are actually dated to to 14 ABY, ten years after the Emperor's death, by The New Essential Chronology." This can't be sourced to Crosscurrent.
BTS - Ambiguous information
  • "Paul S. Kemp has stated that he intended Zeerid Korr, a character from The Old Republic: Deceived, his other novel set thousands of years before the events of Jedi Academy, to have been an ancestor of Jaden, however no Legends source confirmed that the two were indeed related." This cannot all be sourced to the tweet.
  • "Several times in Riptide, and even in certain parts of Crosscurrent before that, Kemp seemingly hints at the possibility of Korr himself being a part of Thrawn's cloning program, planted on Coruscant as a sleeper agent in his youth." As you reference Riptide and Crosscurrent, you cannot just source the entire sentence to Crosscurrent.
BTS - Canceled content
  • I'm not really seeing the point of including the Legends image in the BTS.
  • Could you add a quote to the Canceled content section? There appears to be one in the referenced interview that you can use.
  • I will give the article another pass once you look through these.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 00:36, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
Wave 2
  • Under Answering a distress call: The CSWE entry for Blenjeel mentions Korr's mission to the planet. Please adjust the game mechanics templates / BTS as needed.
  • Under Hostage rescue: The CSWE entry for Nar Kreeta mentions Korr rescuing the elders on Nar Kreeta. Please adjust the game mechanics templates / BTS as needed.
  • Under Apprehending Lannik Racto: The CSWE entry for Rax Joris references Korr's capture, which means that Korr went to Dosunn. Please adjust the game mechanics templates / BTS as needed.
  • Based on the Blenjeel, Nar Kreeta and Rax Joris entries, could you check to see if any likely related entries reference Korr going to any of the planets? You might be able to confirm more missions as official.
    • In addition to those, I've only been able to confirm the capture of Lannik Racto, based on his respective entry. None of the other optional missions are referenced in the CSWE, as far as I can tell. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 18:37, October 21, 2018 (UTC)
  • Under The fallen apprentice: "During the fight, the twins kept empowering Penin with life energy and augmenting his dark side abilities." Empowering Penin with life energy sounds a little too much like game mechanics. Does this mean that they were healing him? This could use to the be reworded.
  • Under Tomb of the Barsen'thor: "learning the third and final of the combat styles practiced by the New Jedi Order." You provided another reference for learning the last two styles when you mentioned it in the Power and abilities section.
  • Under Battle at the Krabbis Inn: "As the Solos prepared to leave with the sick Jedi, Korr and Arelis agreed to stay behind and cover up the mess before the Galactic Alliance Security, claiming that the Solos were never there during the fight and lying that they did not know how the Mandalorian with the intact armor had died, in order to hide the fact that the psychotic Jedi possessed such powerful abilities." This sentence is too long and needs to be broken up.
  • Under Moral Compass: "Korr always strove to uphold his orders, and he was ashamed that he had disobeyed Hamner's instructions by letting the Solos pass into the Council chambers, but he expected the couple to find a way to gain entrance anyway, and he felt that the Council deserved to listen to what they had to say." This sentence is too long and could use to be broken up.
  • Under Telekinesis, Force speed and jump: "Throughout his lifetime, Korr may have also learned Force powers ranging from Force protection, Force healing, and Force absorb to Force drain, Force rage, and Force choke." I know these are possible powers that can be chosen in the game, but the way this is being included here is speculation. I would either reword this to be less speculative or move this information to the BTS.
    • I do not really see a way to word this in a way to both preserve the ambiguity and not make it sound speculative. Moved that part to the Bts. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 13:42, October 22, 2018 (UTC)
  • Under Dark side powers: "However, after reaching the end of his vision quest, Korr accepted what his Master had been trying to tell him all along, and he knew that he would never fall to the dark side as he knew it too well, feeling secure that he would now always have control of his powers and would never subconsciously summon lightning from his fingers." This sentence is a little long and rambling. Could you break it up / restructure it?
    • Split up into several sentences. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 13:42, October 22, 2018 (UTC)
  • Under Lightsaber mastery: "Korr was highly skilled with a lightsaber, echoing his master's swordsmanship. At first, he utilized the medium style but eventually mastered both the fast and strong styles." I think reference 40 is all that is needed to source the last part about the styles. Could you move reference 5 to just source the first sentence?
  • Under A Skillful Combatant: You have most of this section sourced to both the game and the strategy guide. If there are specific portions that need to be sourced to the guide, can you source those specific parts to the guide and source the rest to the game?
  • There is an "Exceptional Jedi Apprentice" in Jedi Academy (Star Wars Miniatures) that has a similar appearance to Jaden Korr. The piece gives him a yellow double-bladed lightsaber, which is kind of inconsistent. (It was a fairly common practice in the miniature game to have pieces that resembled characters that were named elsewhere.) Could you give a brief reference to think in the BTS?--Exiled Jedi (talk) 17:58, October 20, 2018 (UTC)
    • Added it into the "Ambiguous information" section. Seems like it fits best there. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 06:59, October 23, 2018 (UTC)
Wave 3
  • Does Riptide refer to Coruscant as the galactic capital?
    • No, it doesn't. Ref note added. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 13:31, November 17, 2018 (UTC)
  • "Purchasing a Flare-S swoop to make his way to the outpost" Does the source refer to it as a Flare-S swoop?
  • "Korr's subsequent portrayal in Crosscurrent and Riptide reaffirmed the description outlined in Abyss, explicitly stating that Korr was a Human and expanding on more details of his appearance, such as the goatee that Korr wore as of 41 ABY, which Kemp wrote in as a homage to Katarn, signifying the fact that Korr leaned heavily on his Master's teachings during his crisis of faith." This sentence could use to be reworded / broken up.
  • "The other customizable feature in Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy is the possibility to choose the hilt variation and the blade color of Korr's lightsaber at the beginning of the game and the option to build a new saber, two new lightsabers or a double-bladed one after the mission to Vjun, with in-game dialogue stating that Korr's first lightsaber was destroyed on Vjun." This sentence could use to be reworded / broken up.
  • "In Crosscurrent, the clone Alpha casts a "knowing look" at Korr and calls him "one of us," referring to the Community of clones, and the early chapters of Riptide feature a scene set on the Sith world of Korriban, in which Sith Lord Darth Wyyrlok and the Umbaran Nyss Nenn see a recording of Korr's fight with Alpha on the frozen moon." This sentence could use to be restructured / broken up.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 23:39, November 10, 2018 (UTC)
    • Addressed. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 13:31, November 17, 2018 (UTC)
      • It has become known to me that the INQ have somewhat refined their stance on "special refs" used to source starship classes. It seems like in many cases, those refs are no longer needed, as those classes fall under the duck test clause. Personally, I do agree with this line of thinking; I'd always thought that's how it should work. EJ, I'd like to ask you to take a look at your previous objections regarding those issues and tell me whether you think those refs I added are still necessary. I'm always open to an IRC discussion if we'll have conflicting opinions on the matter. Thank you, QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 09:48, February 20, 2019 (UTC)
  • With the above comment, I think that the following can probably use the duck test:
    • Objection(s) overridden by Inquisitorius 20:44, April 16, 2019 (UTC)
    • T-65 X-wing starfighter
    • Dreadnaught-class heavy cruiser
    • Flare-S Swoop
  • I think the others probably need the references because they aren't as easy to duck test.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 02:16, March 15, 2019 (UTC)
Imp
Toprawa
  • Reference 45 is broken.
    • Removed. That was a leftover from EJ's objections, one of the refs that we'd agreed upon being unnecessary. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 07:10, April 19, 2019 (UTC)
  • Please format SW.com DB entry names correctly in the Sources list. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:39, April 15, 2019 (UTC)
  • Not mandatory, of course, but audio files would be nice. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:50, April 15, 2019 (UTC)
  • I'm trying to understand the meaning of what is in the infobox death field. He died on/in this Mother thing? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:33, May 10, 2019 (UTC)
  • If Essential Reader's Companion states explicitly that Jaden Korr dies aboard Mother in 41 ABY and that his consciousness is transferred into the Iteration clone body, which it certainly appears to, the manual ref note in reference 2 is unnecessary. You can just source that straight to ERC without further elaboration. And it would appear you can then use that same reference for everything in the infobox's species field. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:08, May 10, 2019 (UTC)
Shayanomer
  • It would be good to link the Centerpoint Station superweapon itself in the intro. Shayanomer (talk) 09:56, January 26, 2020 (UTC)
    • Done.
  • "...accidentally acquired a scar on his right cheek...." I believe this can be worded better, like "accidentally scarred his right cheek".
    • Reworded per your suggestion.
  • "...the Imperials somehow obtained the young Korr's genetic sample..." I would personally remove "somehow" from here.
    • Removed.
  • "His uncle, scared that the boy might harm someone with the weapon, reported him to the New Republic authorities on Coruscant..." This can be reworded more formally.
    • Done.
  • "...he met a fellow recruit, Rosh Penin, who was very impressed with Korr's lightsaber and proceeded to ask him how he got it." Again, more formal wording would work better here.
    • Done.
  • "...and some sort of energy pulsed between the scepter and the massive structure." Same issue here.
    • Done.
  • "The incursion by the unknown forces, which resembled some sort of a Sith cult..." "some sort of" can be removed.
    • Done.
  • "...as did the fact that the aura around the temple had felt wrong since the attack." The word "wrong" can be substituted with something else as it isn't really a good descriptor.
    • Reworded.
  • Padawan/Legends could've been pipelinked to the very first mention of "students". Shayanomer (talk) 10:29, January 26, 2020 (UTC)
Teaming up with Chewbacca
  • "...disclosed the information he had gathered from his contacts." Disclosed to who? The preceding sentence mentions Chewbacca so that also needs to be made clear here.
  • "The sole fact that the mercenaries were expensive led Katarn to believe that the Imperial Remnant was probably financing the cult." This can be reworded more formally.
Incursion on Bakura
  • "A Bakuran team sent to investigate on the intrusion had never made it back." "Returned" would be a better substitute for "made it back".
    • Changed it.
  • "A Bakuran team sent to investigate on the intrusion had never made it back. Skywalker assigned Korr to the mission, asking him to wait for Katarn's arrival before dislodging the unknown forces from the power plant." This is quite confusing. The "mission" itself isn't elaborated upon until later in the sentence. Perhaps the mission can be pipelinked to another verb after rewording this? As it stands, the wording implies Korr was a member of the first team that was dispatched and not a separate assignment.
    • I see how that could be confusing. Reworded.
  • "However, tired of sitting idle, Korr decided to explore the vicinity of the plant alone." "Tired of sitting idle" can be substituted with something better.
Answering a distress call
  • "Around that time, the Jedi Academy picked up a distress call..." The sentence opener should be more specific to Korr's previous mission.
Saving Coronet
  • "...the Jedi received a distress call from the pilot of a maglev train attacked by the cultists and their mercenaries." Since this is much further down the article, "cultists" should be substituted with the "Sith cultists" mentioned earlier.
    • I actually think it would be even better to add the clarification in the previous sentence: ...members of the Sith cult...
  • "As he reached the middle of the train, he had to deactivate a bomb protected by another Dark Jedi." He "had to" can be reworded into something better.
    • Reworded.
  • "To prevent the potential catastrophic damage of that terrorist act..." that --> the.
    • I think "such" is more suitable here, actually.
  • "Later, Master Skywalker summoned all available Jedi to inform them on the course of the investigation on the cult. The Jedi Master stated that the person who had sliced into his records had stolen his journal containing the names of places where he had found a very strong connection to the Force. The Massassi temple on which the cultists had used the scepter had also lost its dark side aura, which had been somehow absorbed by the artifact. Worried of what the enemy was planning, Skywalker sent the Jedi to various places mentioned in his journal." Does "all available Jedi" and "the Jedi" include Korr? If so, that needs to be made clear here.
    • Done.
  • "...which had been somehow absorbed by the artifact." "somehow" is an informal adverb and should be removed to keep with the formal tone.
Arrival on Hoth
  • "...the young apprentice had to get rid of the..." "had to get rid" can be reworded into something more formal.
Battle with Alora
  • "...and though initially evenly matched Korr soon began to gain the upper hand." A comma after "evenly matched" would help here.
    • Added.
  • "This lead Alora to flee..." Grammatical error here.
    • I've rewritten the sentence, getting rid of this.
  • "...Korr's and Katarn's datacard report..." Another one here. Shayanomer (talk) 13:21, January 27, 2020 (UTC)
Hostage rescue
  • "...who offered the Jedi to take shelter inside the outpost in order to hide from the gangsters." This can be reworded better.
Raid on Kril'Dor
  • "During that time, New Republic Intelligence discovered an..." Opener should be more specific to Korr's previous mission.
Following Penin's trail
  • "Master Skywalker recalled all Jedi to Yavin 4, informing them that the cult had already siphoned power from every place mentioned in his journal, as well as some that Skywalker had deliberately left out, like Dagobah. Afraid that the Disciples would pierce together clues that would lead them to other places with Force auras, he assigned the Jedi to investigate those secretive locations. The Jedi were instructed to work in pairs to avoid disasters like Penin's capture." If "all Jedi" includes Korr, he should be specified as well. The following sentence also states Katarn and Korr were one of the pairs, which should be added to this paragraph.
  • "Katarn and Korr navigated the wilderness of Vjun, travelling through the acid rain and encountering heavy cult opposition, including the New Reborn dark side users. Those Dark Side Adepts were the remnants of the Reborn, a group of Force-users previously used by the Dark Jedi Desann,..." The wording implies "Dark Side Adepts" can be linked in the preceding sentence. Also, were the adepts "used" figuratively or literally? It should be made clear here.
The fallen apprentice
  • "Penin was accompanied by the Kothos twins, Vil and Dasariah, the two men Korr had seen on Yavin." Context for Korr seeing them previously would be good to add here, since they aren't linked before this sentence.
  • "As Penin lay disarmed on the floor, the leader of the cult, Tavion Axmis, whom Korr had also seen on Yavin, chose to appear at that moment." Same suggestion here, it would work alongside the first objection for this section. Shayanomer (talk) 14:35, January 28, 2020 (UTC)
    • All of the above should be addressed. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 12:32, January 29, 2020 (UTC)
A vision from the Force
  • "The vision's directions seemed like nonsense,..." "seemed like nonsense" can be reworded into something more formal.
  • YT-2400 light freighter/Legends, the ship's model, can be linked with another mention of Junker, substituting it for a word like "freighter".
  • Likewise, there are too many repeated mentions of Junker in this section and the ones after this, which can easily be replaced with other nouns. Also related to this, mentions of Junker should be preceded with "the", like "the Ghost" or "the Millennium Falcon".
    • Regarding the second part of this objection, the ship is referred to this way based on the original sources. Kenp's novels exclusively refer to the scavenger ships as "Junker" and "Flotsam," not "the Junker" or "the Flotsam." QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 17:48, January 29, 2020 (UTC)
Descent on the moon
  • "...and Faal reluctantly did just that." This can be worded better.
Attaining clarity
  • "...who had been hunting Korr since Fhost,..." Brief context for the events on Fhost would be helpful here.
Enter Soldier
  • "After more than thirty years, Korr finally discovered that there existed a clone of himself..." Context for why "30 years" is significant should be added.
Aboard Mother
  • The image in this section should be resized, moved, or have its caption modified to prevent the heading below from being moved. Shayanomer (talk) 17:12, January 29, 2020 (UTC)
    • Hmm, it wasn't interfering with the heading for me, but I guess it depends on the screen resolution. I've moved it one paragraph up just in case; if it still not enough, then I'll make further adjustments. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 09:13, January 30, 2020 (UTC)
    • All other issues above have been addressed as well. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 09:14, January 30, 2020 (UTC)
Relationships: Khedryn Faal and Marr Idi-Shael
  • Just a minor gripe, but I don't think you should describe R6 in this section without renaming the section to mention the droid. Shayanomer (talk) 19:35, January 31, 2020 (UTC)
    • Thinking about it, I believe that the mention of R6 might fit better in the "Attachment to personal belongings" section. What's your take on this? QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 19:47, February 1, 2020 (UTC)
      • Yeah that fits a lot better since an astromech droid is considered a personal belonging. Shayanomer (talk) 08:02, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
Further objections
  • Unfortunately, I have to rescind my vote as I have noticed a few issues with your external citations. Ref 50 is missing parameters (work, author, date).
  • Additionally, please go through your {{Cite_web}} templates and populate and link the "work" field where necessary (if an article is written by an individual author, we don't require the "publisher" field, but "work" instead).
    • Is this correct? Also, regarding ref 60, the website (EUCantina.net) seems to be down. Should I provide an archive link to the site's main page in the "work" field? QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 21:17, August 22, 2020 (UTC)
      • Upd: The ref I was referring to is now №61, due to the introduction of a new ref for the Jennifer Hale interview. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 21:53, August 22, 2020 (UTC)
        • Yeah, the current refs look much better now. I don't see the issue with using an archived version of a site's home page (this applies to ref 44 too). Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 07:45, August 23, 2020 (UTC)
          • I went with the latest working archive link for ref 61. As for ref 44, the site is still active, so I just linked the main page. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 12:31, August 24, 2020 (UTC)
  • I would also suggest providing an archive link for the Tweet, since the recent CT will permit those for social media sites now. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 20:54, August 13, 2020 (UTC)
  • Can you add information from this interview with Jennifer Hale to the BTS? There is a precedent for discussing an actor's experience with portraying a character (see Voren Na'al/Legends and one of your FAs, Ruescott Melshi). Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 21:18, August 13, 2020 (UTC)
    • Not much to add there, but sure. Added. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 21:53, August 22, 2020 (UTC)

Comments

  • Since the game was recently remastered, do you think it would be good to replace screenshots from the game with higher resolution shots? Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 20:54, August 13, 2020 (UTC)
    • I haven't played the newly released version, but from what reviews and screenshots I've seen, calling it a remaster is a bit of a stretch. It's just a port of the original PC version made to run at 1080p and 60fps. I'm thinking about buying it on a PS4 to check for myself if the improvement is noticeable to warrant a reupload of the images. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 07:29, August 14, 2020 (UTC)
  • It would be great if you could get the audio files for all the JKJA quotes. Stake black (talk) 02:48, October 21, 2020 (UTC)


The Barsen'thor

  • Nominated by: QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 11:57, March 13, 2018 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Because I don't like leaving things unfinished.

(0 Inqs/3 Users/3 Total)

(Votes required: 3 Inqvote(s) required to reach minimum. Additional 1 user or 1 Inq vote required to pass.)

Support

Added it to Wookieepedia:WookieeProject The Old Republic's FAN section. Good work. Fan26 (Talk) 18:46, October 4, 2018 (UTC)
  1. Fan26 (Talk) 16:18, December 1, 2018 (UTC)
  2. Awesome work on the article. Tomotron Revanchist Sith.svg (talk) 09:28, February 5, 2020 (UTC)
  3. Shayanomer (talk) 15:48, February 5, 2020 (UTC)

Object

Fan
  • No clue how this made it almost seven months without any objections or support votes. But I digress. At the bottom of the page, under I believe either "Skills and Abilities" or "Personality and traits", the following appears: "In addition to speaking Galactic Basic Standard, the Barsen'thor was versed in many languages of the galaxy. He could understand Dosh,[2] Gand,[23] Binary,[30] Nikto[37] Jawaese,[42] Shyriiwook,[51] Sullustese, Selkath,[59] Rakata[75] Esh-kha[77] and Mandaba.[89] In addition, the Barsen'thor was a skilled pilot, successfully performing many flight missions for the Coruscant Aegis under the callsign "Guardian."[4]" Does the instance of him speaking Sullestese and Selkath occur in the same scenario, therefore both are sourced to ref 59? Fan26 (Talk) 02:16, October 4, 2018 (UTC)
    • Correct, those two languages are featured in the same mission, hence why they are grouped under a single ref. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 06:19, October 4, 2018 (UTC)
  • "Around that time, a sickness known as the Dark Plague struck the Jedi Order once again, driving Jedi Masters across the galaxy insane" This might just be my feeling, but the way the sentence is phrased is like the Dark Plague was mentioned elsewhere in the article, though this is the first mention of it. Would you consider revising the sentence?
  • "The Jedi Master was still missing five years later when an alliance of various factions was formed against the Eternal Empire." Do you think the word "against" should link to Revolt against the Eternal Empire? Fan26 (Talk) 14:23, October 4, 2018 (UTC)
  • " The Children were unwitting deep-cover agents of the Empire who shared a Force connection with the leader of the Empire, the allegedly immortal Sith Emperor Vitiate himself. " I think "unwitting" should actually be "unwilling".
    • Unwitting: adj. Not knowing; unaware: an unwitting subject in an experiment. I think it better describes their position, don't you think? QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 16:35, October 4, 2018 (UTC)
      • Good point.
  • In the "Disappearance and Death" section, the tomb's caption reads "Barsen'thor's tomb on Chandrila". I think "The" should be added to the beginning of it, since it's a title and not a name. Fan26 (Talk) 14:51, October 4, 2018 (UTC)
    • Added. If you see such minor mistakes, you are more than welcome to fix them yourself. You don't have to ask the nominator's permission every time :) QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 16:35, October 4, 2018 (UTC)
    • That's good to know, thank you. Those were the last things I saw.Fan26 (Talk) 18:46, October 4, 2018 (UTC)
  • I realized that since the character was confirmed to be male, we know which voice it canonically has. Would it be possible to get audio for the quotes where 'he' speaks? Fan26 (Talk) 16:46, November 29, 2018 (UTC)
    • I'll see what I can do, though having audio files is not a requirement for status articles, merely a recommendation. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 09:12, November 30, 2018 (UTC)
      • I'm aware, it was just an afterthought. I'm going ahead and striking this-no reason to hold up the nom with this one thing. Fan26 (Talk) 16:17, December 1, 2018 (UTC)
Ecks Dee
  • The LG places {{otheruses}} above any header templates.
  • I understand you want to avoid repetition and vary between usages of Barsen'thor/the Jedi/the Consular, but it gets somewhat confusing in some parts of the intro as I'm not 100% sure to what something is referring. Example: "Learning an ancient Force ability called the shielding technique from the Noetikon devices, the Jedi traveled from planet to planet, using the technique to sever the sick Jedi Masters from the influence of Lord Vivicar, the Sith mastermind behind the plague." Seeing as you talk about Jedi Masters in the previous sentence, it's not inconceivable that "the Jedi traveled" refers to the Masters rather Barsen'thor.
    • Made some adjustments. Please take another look. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 08:27, October 8, 2018 (UTC)
  • "the Barsen'thor participated in the fight against the Children of the Emperor." Is there/should there be an article for this particular fight/crisis/whatever?
  • "The Children were unwitting deep-cover agents of the Empire who shared a Force connection with the leader of the Empire, the allegedly immortal Sith Emperor Vitiate himself. The Children had infiltrated deep within the ranks of the Republic, their presence masked by the power of the mysterious First Son." I feel like dedicating two whole sentences to context is a bit excessive when it comes to the intro. See if you could condense this a bit. 1358 (Talk) 21:36, October 7, 2018 (UTC)
  • I made some further tweaks in the intro, particularly trimming some context I found excessive. Please have a look and see if that's okay.
  • "During the Battle of Corellia, the Consular discovered that the First Son was in fact a sleeper persona implanted inside Jedi Master Syo Bakarn" I feel like it's a bit misleading to link Sleep/Legends here, as sleeper agents don't really have anything to do with the act of sleeping.
    • I might have gotten a little carried away while trying to improve overall linking in the article. Removed. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 07:54, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
  • Seeing as we know the exact dates for the resurgence of the Sith Empire and the Cold War, I think it'd be a good idea to put these in the early bio to establish some sort of timeframe for the reader.
  • Before I start with the rest of the bio, please keep the location of {{Main}} consistent. Right now it's below the quote template in some places and above in others. I don't think we have any policy on this, but personally I think it looks better placed above the quote template (think of it as a header template of sorts). 1358 (Talk) 19:13, October 9, 2018 (UTC)
  • Arrival: The paragraph that starts with "Par told the apprentice the information..." barely mentions the Barsen'thor and it feels like it's too much context. See if you can trim it some. 1358 (Talk) 17:59, December 8, 2018 (UTC)
    • Reworded to focus a bit more on the Barsen'thor. I don't think that the context in this paragraph can be completely cut, though. It's all kinda necessary, IMO. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 19:54, December 15, 2018 (UTC)
  • Defending the Forge: "the Consular deeply concentrated and used the machine to create a working lightsaber. Upon creating the lightsaber, he barely had time to test it before Raloch appeared" This feels a bit redundant, with the double mention of the lightsaber creation in close succession. 1358 (Talk) 19:47, April 26, 2019 (UTC)
  • Into the Black Sun's den: "Black Sun, a local criminal gang, had turned the cantina's back rooms into some sort of secret warehouse." This sentence is purely context and as such it feels a bit disconnected to the rest of the prose. See if you can integrate it better somehow.
    • Done.
  • Into the Black Sun's den: "wherein they met a Human Doctor called Maer." Why are we capitalizing "doctor" here? It's fine in the next sentence if the source material calls him "the Doctor", but in this sentence, I see no reason to capitalize it.
    • No, the source material does not specifically call him the Doctor, so I've decapitalized it.
  • Into the Black Sun's den: The paragraph that starts with "According to one of the patients" doesn't mention the subject of this article once. Please cut down on the excessive context. 1358 (Talk) 11:18, July 19, 2019 (UTC)
    • Cut down on some of the extraneous details. Please take a look. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 18:21, July 27, 2019 (UTC)
      • It still feels a bit excessive, to be honest. You have three consecutive sentences that are purely context. See if you can cut down even more and maybe merge the paragraph with the following one.
  • Learning the ritual: "The sickness had been encountered by the Jedi Order before only once." This sentence feels a bit abrupt and detached, see if you can somehow integrate it better with the rest of the paragraph; maybe merge it with the next sentence, which also has just one clause.
  • Learning the ritual: Before I go ahead and finish reviewing this section (and article), please go through it and cut down on some of the excessive context. In the first paragraph of this section, you have eight consecutive sentences before the article subject is mentioned once. This is a recurring issue in the article (as evidenced by my review), so you might want to go through the entire thing and see if you can trim excessive context. 1358 (Talk) 20:52, August 9, 2019 (UTC)
    • I've trimmed the unnecessary details throughout the bio. Everything left is necessary context, IMO, so I'd like to approach the rest on a case-by-case basis if you feel there are still extraneous info. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 15:17, August 18, 2019 (UTC)
Imp
  • Would it be possible to obtain more images? Some of the sections and subsections can look pretty intimidating for the reader. If further subsectioning is possible, that would help, too. Imperators II(Talk) 12:35, May 18, 2019 (UTC)
    • I've done some splitting of some of the larger sections, while adding a few images here and there. Please take another look. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 12:39, May 30, 2019 (UTC)
  • Is it not possible to utilize {{TORcite}} in refs 105 and 107, as well? Imperators II(Talk) 10:53, June 1, 2019 (UTC)
  • Ref 13: You're using the ref to source the date 3643 BBY for the Jedi Consular class, but the ref itself actually only dates the Jedi Knight, Smuggler, and Trooper classes to that year. Either the reference should be expanded to a manual ref note, or perhaps the dating template itself needs to be amended. And I'm not seeing why ref 13 is used upon its second instance in the article. Imperators II(Talk) 14:29, June 12, 2019 (UTC)
    • Took me a while to figure out how to tackle this, but I think I've figured out a way to reword/expand this. Hopefully, it's not too convoluted. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 09:58, June 19, 2019 (UTC)
  • "Gaining a trusted ally" — the quote's missing some punctuation. Is the omission coming from the source? Imperators II(Talk) 16:23, January 5, 2020 (UTC)
    • No, it's coming from my own derpiness. Fixed. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 16:49, January 6, 2020 (UTC)
Shayanomer
  • Article says he died. Is there a reason why the infobox is missing this information? Shayanomer (talk) 11:15, February 4, 2020 (UTC)
    • Based on current sources, we can only estimate his death date to have occured at some point between 3638 BBY (last confirmed appearance in Shadow of Revan) and 14 ABY (confirmed to be dead by that point due to the appearance of his tomb in Jedi Academy). To say that a character died at some point during an almost 4000 year-long period is just stating obvious information and is in no way useful to the reader. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 12:34, February 4, 2020 (UTC)
  • Same thing for his birth. A rough date would be appreciated. Shayanomer (talk) 12:06, February 4, 2020 (UTC)
    • Since we do not know how old the character is at the start of SWTOR's class story, best I can do regarding the birth date is "some years before 3643 BBY" or somesuch. And I'm also reluctant to add this, to be honest. If we first encounter a character in a story set in 3 ABY, obviously that character had to have been born at some point before 3 ABY. We don't have to state the obvious. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 12:34, February 4, 2020 (UTC)
      • Very well. I was only curious since I'm totally not familiar with TOR, as are many readers. Shayanomer (talk) 12:37, February 4, 2020 (UTC)
  • Is it possible to use a "canon" appearance for the infobox image? Shayanomer (talk) 12:49, February 4, 2020 (UTC)
    • There is no confirmed canon appearance, as the in-game avatar is customizable by the player. Even though the gender has been confirmed in a FFG book, there's still a ton of variations in terms of species and visual appearance. Images such as this are merely promotional images orbitrarily chosen to illustrate the character. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 12:59, February 4, 2020 (UTC)
Helping the Teral
  • "The Jedi asked to be made the House's delegate, but there were complications to that." This can be reworded better.
    • Reworded.
  • "They planned to form an alliance with the Organa through a marriage..." Is "the Organa" actually referring to House Organa? A little confusing here. Shayanomer (talk) 13:49, February 4, 2020 (UTC)
    • Yes, it was referring to the House. I've clarified that. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 08:57, February 5, 2020 (UTC)
Battle with the plaguemaster
  • "In fact, Vivicar was merely a vessel for the spirit of Morrhage..." A better sentence opener can be used here.
    • Reworded.
  • "...a rare and distinguished title that only two Jedi had held in the millennia before." Would be good to specify who the two Jedi are in the paragraph. Shayanomer (talk) 15:00, February 4, 2020 (UTC)
Revelation on Quesh
  • "Determined to rescue the scientists, Nadia unexpectedly for the Consular demonstrated that she was in fact Force-sensitive,..." Grammatical error here.
Restoring troop morale
  • "The captain seemed to survive anything the Coalition Forces could throw at him and seemed invincible. In addition to that, Valon had recently stolen a thermal bore device that could crack Hoth's ice shelf and could potentially destroy the Republic base." Parts of this can be reworded more formally.
Blaesus exposed
  • Third paragraph is missing a reference at the end. Shayanomer (talk) 15:26, February 4, 2020 (UTC)
Battling the Order of Revan
  • The image in this section is moving the heading below. Try resizing it to alleviate this issue. Shayanomer (talk) 16:24, February 4, 2020 (UTC)
    • Moved the image, made it a bit smaller, and also evened out the length of paragraphs in this section. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 13:20, February 5, 2020 (UTC)
Ratts
  • Death is missing from the infobox. I've read your response to Shay's objection, and while I realize that there's no specific date for his death and that the assumption can be made he died during that period, the fact that he did indeed die should be presented in the infobox. There are individuals who live for immensely long times in the galaxy, either through natural or unnatural ways, so I don't see why stating the known information that this individual died before 14 ABY is unnecessary.
    • Added it in. The ref note turned out to be quite convoluted, but it's the best I could come up with, while trying to make it both comprehensive and concise. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 14:33, August 24, 2020 (UTC)
      • "Using comments and information from the game, the novel The Old Republic: Annihilation, as well as statements made by the game's lead designer Charles Boyd, that expansion can be dated to the year 3638 BBY." Is there a way to be a bit more specific here? What "comments and information" are you referring to? RattsT (talk) 21:51, August 24, 2020 (UTC)
        • If I were to elaborate on that, I would have to incorporate the entirety of {{TOR_updates|3.0}} template; and you can see this template in action by looking at ref 6 in Revan/Legends. I could do that and add this information to the death date ref, but then this already wordy ref note would become an essay in and of itself. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 09:17, August 25, 2020 (UTC)
          • Alright, the link to the Boyd screenshot in the ref should be enough, for brevity's sake. RattsT (talk) 06:44, August 30, 2020 (UTC)
  • The "Companions and romances" section of the BTS features two quotes. Per the Layout Guide, "a maximum of one quote is allowed only at the beginning of each section." RattsT (talk) 20:44, August 22, 2020 (UTC)
OOM
  • "[…] forged a temporarily coalition in order to fight the common threat of the Order of Revan.[100] Revan, a Sith Lord-turned Jedi during the Jedi Civil War three hundred years ago.[101]" The last sentence seems to be incomplete. Also, "three hundred years ago" cannot be sourced to KOTOR. - - -CIS roundel.svg OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 08:09, August 30, 2020 (UTC)
    • Good catch. I seem to have chopped off the second part of the sentence during my effort to cut excessive context from the article. Fixed and provided a better source. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 13:23, August 30, 2020 (UTC)
  • Spelling inconsistency between Malachor III and Malachor Three. - - -CIS roundel.svg OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 15:33, August 30, 2020 (UTC)
    • Oh wow, I competely missed this one. My apologies. I've now changed all instances to "Three," as that how it's spelled in the subtitles. It is indeed spelled as "Malachor III" in the TOR Encyclopedia, but I think we should go with what the actual game says, and move the actual Malachor article accordingly. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 13:50, September 21, 2020 (UTC)
      • Great. The first instance of "Malachor" should be changed to the full name though, and there's an instance of "Tusken" when the rest of the article mentions only "Sand People." - - -CIS roundel.svg OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 16:14, September 21, 2020 (UTC)
        • The first instance is formatted like this on purpose, as the planet is not referred to as "Malachor Three" at that point in the storyline yet. In fact, it's not even established as a planet; Cin Tykan only utters the line "Malachor was dark" during his mad ramblings, so the Barsen'thor doesn't know what specific place he's talking about yet. I've changed the wording a bit to reflect that. Also fixed the one "Tusken" instance. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 06:46, September 22, 2020 (UTC)

Comments

  • Issues from the previous nomination have been addressed. Paragraph size has been significantly reduced, and some long sections have been split up. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 11:57, March 13, 2018 (UTC)


Zsinj (Redux review)

  • Redux comments: Article was Reduxed per INQ 102 due to large changes.
  • Date added: May 5, 2019

(+1)

Support

  1. Inqvote.png Impatiently waiting for Zsinj: A Star Wars Story. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 20:22, September 2, 2019 (UTC)

Object

Exiled Jedi
  • There are some fairly large paragraphs that should be broken up. The first paragraph in the intro and the second paragraph in Zsinj's rank and uniform especially stand out.
    • This is a purely subjective criticism, and I don't see a problem with the way it is now, so honestly, at this point I really wish people who want the paragraphs broken up would just break them up themselves. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 12:33, May 10, 2019 (UTC)
    • It has been brought to my attention that my effort to suppress my natural tendency toward assholery has been inadequate, but I wanted to take some time to think before I attempted to clarify this. First, you may note that at the same time I posted this, I also posted below noting that a redux review was a good idea. I appreciate the leniency I have been granted and the opportunity to improve my work. However, this objection has been the most frustrating one for me because I honestly see no issue with the layout of the article as it stands. As far as I can see, it looks fine in both the full version and in FANDOM's annoying little javascript preview window, and I feel that splitting up the paragraphs any further would just be an effort to cater to the short attentions spans of users who belong on one of FANDOM's other fine sites and not Wookieepedia. My previous message was literally an invitation to other users to collaborate on this objection, and I apologize if my tone caused it to be taken differently. I have no {{inuse}} tag on this article, and Inquisitors have advocated the {{sofixit}} rule in the past, so this seemed like a logical idea. However, if this is unacceptable, then I ask that you please list all the paragraphs with which you take issue so I may implement the mutilation of the article in one fell swoop and not prolong the agony. Thank you. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 13:33, May 12, 2019 (UTC)
  • You mention all of the equipment from Cracken's Threat Dossier, but there are other items listed in Rebellion Era Sourcebook that are not mentioned.
  • There appear to be some relevant skills in Zsinj's entry from Cracken's Threat Dossier that are not referenced in the article.
    • Added everything that seems relevant that hasn't already been touched on somehow. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 23:26, May 25, 2019 (UTC)
  • Cracken's Threat Dossier mentions that he cannot lie convincingly despite years of practice. This should be in the P&T.
    • I'm going to have to finesse this one a bit, since his appearances in the Wraith Squadron books are nothing but lying. 😐 -- Darth Culator (Talk) 12:33, May 10, 2019 (UTC)
  • Are there any quotes that can be added to the BTS? I see that there is an archived page where Allston discusses his novels.
  • Looking at Allston's FAQ, it looks like some information could probably be added to the BTS.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 03:16, May 6, 2019 (UTC)
    • I'm not entirely sure how to address these two. The FAQ is mostly about the books and the writing. I may have to wedge a whole nother section into my BTS. 😐 -- Darth Culator (Talk) 23:26, May 25, 2019 (UTC)
    • Actually, I'm going to have to request some clarification here. This objection is kind of vague, and I'm not sure exactly what you expect me to add. I don't really know how much of Allston's FAQ really applies directly to Zsinj's biography. BTS sections are very much not my forte, so I would appreciate some guidance as to what you think is appropriate. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 16:00, May 31, 2019 (UTC)
      • The section about Zsinj being defeated by Solo under Iron Fist has the author speaking about Zsinj's tactics and the inspiration for that battle. I think that is worthy of being included in the article BTS.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 23:42, June 1, 2019 (UTC)
        • Alright, well, as much as I hate BTS sections, I think I managed to squeeze a few good bits in. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 00:56, June 13, 2019 (UTC)
Imp
Tommy
  • Duplicate links.
    • The only duplicate link now remaining according to the standard dupe checker is a pipelink in the BTS that I think is needed to add some detail without excess verbosity. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 16:13, June 29, 2019 (UTC)
      • Honestly I would prefer a couple more words to give context than a duplicate link. WP:MOS#Linking is pretty abiding. Tommy Imperial Emblem.svg Macaroni 15:33, June 30, 2019 (UTC)
        • Fair enough. Last dupe link nuked. Although I could get into a semantic argument about the use of the word "should" in the MOS, but it's just easier to make the change. 😁 -- Darth Culator (Talk) 00:34, July 1, 2019 (UTC)
  • If multiple references are used, they should be arranged in ascending order.
    • Refs are all now sorted in the order first used in the article. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 16:13, June 29, 2019 (UTC)
  • Images with spaces in their names should use underscores instead.
  • Some images are missing size specifiers.
  • I'm going to object to the use of "<!-- information -->" in the sources list. They detract from the formal nature of the article, even in the editing screen, and should only be used when necessary, like to draw attention to a common misconception. These notes on sources aren't necessary, and would be much more befitting on a personal workbench. Tommy Imperial Emblem.svg Macaroni 19:23, June 27, 2019 (UTC)
    • That's fine, they'll be in the history if I need them. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 16:13, June 29, 2019 (UTC)
Anil
  • The audiobook adaptations of the novels in the Appearances should be checked and added to the list if necessary. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 05:29, July 21, 2019 (UTC)
    • Can you clarify this objection? Unless you know of a specific discrepancy, I think we should assume that the audiobooks are identical to the text. We don't even have separate articles for the audiobooks of the X-wing series, which is true for the VAST majority of books. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 23:11, July 21, 2019 (UTC)
      • I have taken care of the audiobooks myself, please feel free to change anything I have added. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 20:16, July 25, 2019 (UTC)
  • I think the article could use some more mentions of BBY/ABY dates for its events. The dates in the infobox, in particular, are kinda infobox-exclusive.
    • Added birth and death dates, working on adding other dates. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 20:49, August 4, 2019 (UTC)
    • Alright, I added a date reference for every unambiguous, verifiable year change during his life, plus a few more in the aftermath. Anything else would be gratuitous, I think. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 14:34, August 5, 2019 (UTC)
  • I'm okay if you feel there is no proper room for it, but I think this image depicting the borders of Zsinj's Empire could be useful somewhere in the article body. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 07:47, July 21, 2019 (UTC)
    • I think it works. Slid it in right before his downfall, and put the Dathomir picture in a more logical place. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 21:01, August 4, 2019 (UTC)
  • The article is inconsistent about the use of dash in "nonhuman/non-human." Please revise.
  • Isn't Gamma-9104, the enhanced Gamorrean individual, notable enough to have its own article? TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 08:28, July 21, 2019 (UTC)
  • The article is inconsistent about the capitalization of Nightcloak. Please revise.
    • Sources are inconsistent on this. Courtship starts lowercase, then we go to uppercase in Fact Files, then back to lowercase in CSWE, then back to uppercase in the Imperial Handbook (I didn't check ALL the sources, but I assume there's a similar level of inconsistency throughout). So I'm just going to go with the latest word on it and capitalize. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 02:40, August 16, 2019 (UTC)
  • In the first and third paragraphs of BTS, can the release dates (months, to be specific) be sourced directly to the novels?
    • For the novels, yes. Each one has something along the lines of "A Bantam Spectra Book / February 1998" on the copyright page. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 02:40, August 16, 2019 (UTC)
  • Same question for Cracken's Threat Dossier and The Official Star Wars Fact File 83.
    • I actually can't figure out WHERE we got the dates for these, but I'm going to take some time to hunt them down before I rework my BTS for the umpteenth time. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 02:40, August 16, 2019 (UTC)
    • Mmkay, nailed down CTD to about the most official possible source, which was a pain since checking that source is like consulting a Ouija board, but I got it. Still working on the Fact File. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 12:05, August 16, 2019 (UTC)
    • Finally figured out where the date came from. 2015 Wookieepedia was a savage and lawless place. But I made it work. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 22:23, August 24, 2019 (UTC)
  • In the fourth BTS paragraph, I don't think Allston's death in 2014 can be sourced to that FAQ.
    • Sourced the death date to a source just one step removed from the coroner himself. 😁 -- Darth Culator (Talk) 12:05, August 16, 2019 (UTC)
      • Never thought we would use a funeral home page on the Wook. :D TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 14:11, August 16, 2019 (UTC)
  • Also about that FAQ, its {{Cite_web}} suggests that it was released in 2013; however, there are 2012 captures of the page on Wayback Machine.
    • I was going by the "last updated" date at the bottom of the page on the final archived version. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 02:40, August 16, 2019 (UTC)
  • (Not an objection) Maybe that's just my personal opinion, but I'm not a huge fan of Wikipedia links in in-universe sections of articles. If it was up to me, I'd just remove the Wikipedia link for handlebar moustache in that image caption, but I am leaving that up to you.
    • I know I don't often like to make concessions to user-friendliness, but since Wookieepedia is not a dictionary and I have no idea how prevalent this term is outside of North America, I feel this is justified, just this once. Though I did move the link into the article body, which I should have done long ago. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 02:40, August 16, 2019 (UTC)
  • "Project Funeral was an ambitious endeavor." "Zsinj's plan for recovery was fairly simple." "The Battle of Selaggis was not a long one." "In Solo's characteristic fashion, he resigned his commission, kidnapped Leia, and took her to his planet." There are several sentences in the article, such as these, that kinda feel like you are slightly presenting events from your own point of view. Of course, I can't be certain without reading at least large portions of the novels, so I'll just take your word for it. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 01:17, August 10, 2019 (UTC)
    • Before anyone thinks I've forgotten about this, I was only informed that this was actually an objection even though it wasn't really worded like one ("I'll just take your word for it") on the 24th. Unfortunately, I haven't had time to work on it yet due to being laid up with a rather unpleasant medical issue. I'll get to it as soon as I regain the mental capacity to edit my own writing and am physically able to reliably feel my fingers, and I humbly request the Inquisitorius grant a stay of execution in the interim. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 00:34, August 29, 2019 (UTC)
    • Okay, I'm going to address some of these with rebuttals, so I apologize in advance if I seem a bit ornery.
      1. "Project Funeral was an ambitious endeavor." Per CSWE, "Project Funeral One of Warlord Zsinj's most ambitious actions against the New Republic." Ref added.
      2. "Zsinj's plan for recovery was fairly simple." -- No argument here. This one was actually better off reworked anyway. 😛
      3. "The Battle of Selaggis was not a long one." Per The Essential Reader's Companion, "The Iron Fist’s hyperdrive is ruined by Gara, momentarily stranding the ship in the Selaggis system." (emphasis mine) -- Reference added.
      4. "In Solo's characteristic fashion, he resigned his commission, kidnapped Leia, and took her to his planet." The Essential Reader's Companion says "In true Corellian scoundrel fashion, he ventures into the seamy underworld of Coruscant and enters into a high-stakes sabacc game, emerging as the winner of an obscure planet, Dathomir. He then kidnaps Leia and takes her to this world, all in a desperate effort to impress upon her how important she is to him." Additionally, Cracken's Threat Dossier references "Solo's rather 'unorthodox' methods of problem-solving" shortly before describing the kidnapping, though it doesn't apply the descriptor as directly to the kidnapping itself as the ERC does. My point, though, is that it's hardly news that Han Solo is a swashbuckling pirate, so it shouldn't be considered a matter of opinion to describe him as such.
    • Please let me know if there are any other instances of excessively florid language that need adjustment. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 16:24, September 2, 2019 (UTC)

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  • So Redux is still a thing? Probably a good idea. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 12:33, May 10, 2019 (UTC)


Onager-class Star Destroyer

  • Nominated by:--Vitus InfinitusTalk 18:25, March 4, 2020 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Giving featured article nominations another try!

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  1. Great job on fixing up the article! —Tomotron Revanchist Sith.svg (Star Forge) 01:02, March 10, 2020 (UTC)
  2. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 14:45, May 7, 2020 (UTC)
  3. A fine read. Ben sc01t (Hello there) 23:09, May 29, 2020 (UTC)
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Shayanomer
  • Well done for the most part, however, you have some issues:
  • "Navigation computer" seems to be infobox-exclusive.
  • Battle of Endor should be given a date in the intro
  • "During the Galactic Civil War, there were several examples of this class. Several ships were the Cataclysm, the Rakehell, the Sunder, and the Onager-class Testbed." This can be merged into one sentence to use the named ships as the examples specified in the first sentence.
  • "Beyond the end of the indentation but before the command tower structure were two deflector shield generator domes similar to those[3] found in Imperial-class Star Destroyers,[6] as well as several other deflector shield generators." I don't think you should use Rogue One as a source if it doesn't mention the deflector shield generator. I would suggest replacing the reference with the Blueprints from Card Trader (See the exact card used in the status articles Formidable and Adjudicator).
    • Thanks! Fixed!--Vitus InfinitusTalk 01:15, March 6, 2020 (UTC)
      • Ok so for this, you'll need to make two separate references. For stuff like "solar ionization reactor" or "deflector shield," follow Rakehell, Sunder, and Cataclysm as examples. You don't need two separate references for that info. Secondly, the reference for the ISD should be the card directly, as you've currently used the same reference for both. Shayanomer (talk) 06:15, March 6, 2020 (UTC)
  • Second paragraph of the History section is missing a reference at the end.
  • Do the sources make the connection between the Mandator IV and the Onager? If they don't, then I don't think you can say the former functioned similarly to the latter. What you could say is that the concept of orbital bombardment weaponry aboard a Star Destroyer was implemented into the Mandator IV. Shayanomer (talk) 04:02, March 5, 2020 (UTC)
  • Galactic Civil War should be given dates. Shayanomer (talk) 04:07, March 5, 2020 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • The size of the article warrants a larger intro than just one paragraph. Also, please fix the italicization formatting of this nomination. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:13, April 20, 2020 (UTC)
    • Expanded intro. I fixed italicization of the title of the nomination, is there anything else?--Vitus InfinitusTalk 20:35, April 20, 2020 (UTC)
QGJ
  • You've got a few duplicate links.
  • Please fix image caption formatting. Remember that only full sentences get a period at the end.
    • I changed image captions, and I think I fixed the formatting--Vitus InfinitusTalk 15:03, May 3, 2020 (UTC)
  • Each ref note should have all available subjects linked to.
  • Can you reformat ref 4 to make it less cumbersome? It's really hard to understand what it's trying to get across at the moment. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 09:43, May 3, 2020 (UTC)
  • There are instances of info sourced to two consecutive references. Those should be avoided unless absolutely necessary. And if they are necessary, then consecutive ref notes should always be arranged in ascending order. There are some refs that do not follow this rule. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 15:36, May 6, 2020 (UTC)
OOM
  • Haxen Delto and Airen Cracken shouldn't be linked in the quote template.
  • The alternate names "Onager-class Destroyer and "Siege Breaker" are completely unnecessary. I see that when mentioned without -class, Onager isn't capitalised, but there's no point including it as an alternate title in the intro.
  • Same goes for the list of names in "General characteristics" section.
  • Some of the images could be enlarged.
  • "Despite the Rebel victory at Endor […]" Not sure about the capitalisation of "rebel" here. Is it capitalised in the source?
  • Starter sentence for the Legacy section should connect with the previous line about the GCW. The Empire's ultimate defeat there should be mentioned in place of "after the fall of the Galactic Empire."
  • I found some linking of individual words of proper compound nouns while skimming through the article. (e.g. Death Star) There's probably a few more in the article that needs removing. - - -CIS roundel.svg OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 18:53, September 22, 2020 (UTC)
    • Thank you. I'll check through it and remove any more that I find--Vitus InfinitusTalk 21:45, September 24, 2020 (UTC)
      • I can't find any more but I'll keep looking--Vitus InfinitusTalk 17:52, September 25, 2020 (UTC)
        • Great. Striking so that the objection won't exceed the time limit. - - -CIS roundel.svg OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 21:58, October 1, 2020 (UTC)
  • Not sure what this is about. Please reword with some formal language and without original research. "At one point during the Imperial Era, an Imperial moff ordered an Onager-class Star Destroyer to destroy a city from orbit, while in another moment an Alliance base was destroyed, though it was undetermined if the Empire had equipped a miniaturized Death Star superlaser on an Onager or if it was something else." - - -CIS roundel.svg OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 21:58, October 1, 2020 (UTC)
    • That is not original research, that's how it's worded in the source. I've slightly reworded to be more encyclopedic, but I'd appreciate it if you don't say that I'm using original research without checking first, thanks.--Vitus InfinitusTalk 13:48, October 8, 2020 (UTC)
      • Sorry for the assumption. Does the source mention who was undetermined as to whether the Onager used DS technology? Also, I don't understand what "a different circumstance" is referring to; that the Onager could have been equipped with some other technology? - - -OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 15:41, October 8, 2020 (UTC)
        • No worries! The source phrases the sentence as a question, so for that piece of information within the question I phrased it as being undetermined. Additionally, "a different circumstance" is the change I made to "something else" to make it more encyclopedic, since the source says "something else." The full statement is "Has the Empire successfully mounted a miniaturized Death Star superlaser on an Onager, or did something else destroyed the base?"--Vitus InfinitusTalk 00:25, October 9, 2020 (UTC)
  • The Mustafar DB entry doesn't say the action at Mustafar marked the beginning of the GCW, only that it was "one of the earliest rebel victories" of the war. Please revise the article accordingly. - - -OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 15:41, October 8, 2020 (UTC)
  • The article body and intro states the alternative name is "Imperial Siege Breaker," while it's just "Siege Breaker" in bts.
    • It's because it was originally only identified as the Siege Breaker. Onager-class Star Destroyer and Imperial Siege Breaker originate from much later sources.--Vitus InfinitusTalk 14:33, October 9, 2020 (UTC)
  • Could the Onager's designation as a capital ship be included in the infobox? - - -OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 13:55, October 9, 2020 (UTC)
  • (Reviewing note) Links should be provided in individuals references; when used in ref notes, they don't count as duplicate links.
  • (Reviewing note) Twitter citations don't need an image link if a backup link is already provided.
  • The Legacy section could use an additional image. - - -OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 11:47, October 16, 2020 (UTC)

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O'reen

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  3. Fan26 (Talk) 12:19, May 4, 2020 (UTC)
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Fan
  • Unless I've missed it somewhere, the body does not link to O'reenian (apart from the "Main article" link under the Inhabitants section), despite the term being used quite a few times. Fan26 (Talk) 05:27, May 4, 2020 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • I'm confused by what this means. Traveled to their point of origin? Do you mean returning home to conclude their mission? Can we word this any differently? "After defeating the fighters, the group determined and traveled to their point of origin."
  • Also confused here. This makes it sound like they didn't know upfront that the data core is what they were after the whole time, which presumably isn't true. Can we reword this? "The individuals then identified the tactical data core as the item they were supposed to retrieve."
  • No article for the station supervisor? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 03:49, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

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Moroff

  • Nominated by: Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 20:24, April 8, 2020 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: What happens when you give a wampa a minigun?

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  1. --Editoronthewiki (talk) 01:54, September 18, 2020 (UTC)
  2. Very nice - - -OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 11:26, October 16, 2020 (UTC)

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Ben
  • Specifying where Moroff is in the photo—e.g. "(left)"—should be there seeing as it's hard to notice him.
  • You could call the "skirmish" with the patrol in the final Bio paragraph an 'ambush' or a 'raid' seeing as the Partisans were the ones raiding the Imperial convoy.
  • You should add more detail to the Death Star's attack, such as the fact it was the Empire's superweapon. Continental (or inter-continental) would also be a better description for the shockwave. Ben sc01t (talk) 08:04, April 13, 2020 (UTC)
  • Dooma 4 needs context.
    • The comic doesn't provide any info on Dooma 4, and I'm not sure "location" is suitable context. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 09:58, April 13, 2020 (UTC)
      • What about astronomical object? Ben sc01t (talk) 10:02, April 13, 2020 (UTC)
        • Added. Can't really think of an alternative. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 10:05, April 13, 2020 (UTC)
          • The same will be needed for the intro. Ben sc01t (talk) 10:11, April 13, 2020 (UTC)
  • You could mention that Moroff and his friends were under fire by an AT ST and while they retreated into the alleyway. Ben sc01t (talk) 08:46, April 13, 2020 (UTC)
  • Would it be worth it to mention the director of Solo: A Star Wars Story in the BtS? Ben sc01t (Hello there) 14:28, October 7, 2020 (UTC)
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Spooky
  • Moroff has his own entry in The Moviemaking Magic of Star Wars: Creatures & Aliens, should be added to Sources. Also has one or two interesting costume/operational control tidbits that might be useful for the BtS.spookywillowwtalk 19:35, May 16, 2020 (UTC)
    • Updated accordingly. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I imagine wearing the costume was a pain, so I can understand why the character's role in the film was cut greatly. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 05:00, May 17, 2020 (UTC)
      • It seems the book also provides Moroff's height, but from an OOU perspective. Would it be suitable to add this to the infobox by converting it to meters? Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 05:07, May 17, 2020 (UTC)
        • Haven't come across that precedent before. Perhaps, but that'd probably need clarification from someone who works more on this article type.spookywillowwtalk 05:12, May 18, 2020 (UTC)
OOM
  • First mention of Gigoran in the article body refers to Moroff, yet occurs without him being clearly established as one. I suggest rewording the first sentence to "Moroff was a Gigoran who operated as a mercenary during the Imperial Era" to remedy this.
    • If you take a look at other status articles, you generally have a choice to establish the species in either the Biography or Personality and traits. I've chosen the latter. However, if you still feel strongly about this I can change it. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 16:26, August 5, 2020 (UTC)
      • I'm fine with the choice. It's just that readers might not know that you're referring to Moroff by "the Gigoran" unless it is established that he's a member of the Gigoran species beforehand. This, I think, would be the most convenient if you place it in the first sentence, but an alternative placement works for me too. - - -CIS roundel.svg OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 17:20, August 5, 2020 (UTC)
  • "In 0 BBY,[9] Moroff and a number of Partisans captured Bodhi Rook, a defecting pilot from the Empire, on Jedha." This sentence doesn't read well.
    • Reworded. Let me know if it reads better. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 16:26, August 5, 2020 (UTC)
      • Better, but really it's the addition of ", on Jedha." that I took issue at. Anyhow, it's just me with interruptions to the flow of passages, not really objectable. Striking. - - -CIS roundel.svg OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 17:20, August 5, 2020 (UTC)
  • No quotes that fit into the article body at all?
  • Too many pronouns in the intro. Could use one or two more Moroffs instead.
  • Most mentions of Ian Whyte are limited to only his surname. Please populate with more Ians.
    • This isn't really an issue within the same section or sections next to each other. I've changed one instance in the Costume section. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 16:26, August 5, 2020 (UTC)
  • "Alzmann imagined Senna to be a tall figure akin to Chewbacca,[18] much like Scanlan and the film's production team" Almost thought Scanlan and the film's production team are all as tall as Wookiees. - - -CIS roundel.svg OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 14:07, August 5, 2020 (UTC)
  • Unsourced quotes. - - -CIS roundel.svg OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 17:20, August 5, 2020 (UTC)
  • The images in the Biography section could be enlarged. - - -CIS roundel.svg OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 18:14, September 4, 2020 (UTC)
  • Some of the "Gerrera"s should be changed to Saw's full name. - - -CIS roundel.svg OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 19:33, September 4, 2020 (UTC)
    • If you look at bigger status articles (i.e. Voss Parck/Legends), using the surname to refer to the character after the first mention works just fine. I've already established who Saw Gerrera is in the first mention, I feel it's unnecessary to remind the reader who I'm referring to in the article. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 19:38, September 4, 2020 (UTC)
      • I personally disagree, but I see that popular opinion seems to be in favour of this. Striking. - - -CIS roundel.svg OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 16:15, September 10, 2020 (UTC)
  • "The character that became Moroff was originally a rebel named Senna, before becoming the Gigoran Partisan seen in the film." The second part is unnecessary. - - -CIS roundel.svg OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 16:15, September 10, 2020 (UTC)
  • The bts could use some info from this SW.com article. - - -OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 14:44, October 9, 2020 (UTC)

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  • Before anyone asks about the German comic image, we have a precedent for this. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 20:31, April 8, 2020 (UTC)


Waxer/Legends (Redux review)

  • Redux comments: Reduxed per Meeting 114.
  • Date added: April 11, 2020

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Toprawa
  • Two-speaker quotes get the Quote template, not Dialogue. There's at least one case of this being done incorrectly in the article. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:43, April 24, 2020 (UTC)
Shayanomer
  • Since Waxer has several lines of dialogue on the wiki, a {{Soundcat}} would be good to have on the article. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 07:58, May 10, 2020 (UTC)

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Raid on Ziro the Hutt's Coruscant club

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Shayanomer
  • "When Dooku told Ziro that members of the CIS leadership would pay handsomely for Amidala, the Hutt had her thrown in the dungeon." Can you provide more context for "the dungeon" in regards to where it's located?
    • Unfortunately, there really is no further context other than it being in the palace. They never show her in a elevator going up or down, either when she is being taken to the dungeon or being brought back to the throne room. - JMAS Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 02:03, April 21, 2020 (UTC)
      • Ah, I meant something like "palace's dungeon," but you've added that now. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 03:41, April 21, 2020 (UTC)
  • I don't think the double reference for most of the information is necessary. As long as there isn't info exclusive to The Clone Wars: The Battle Begins, then using the film alone should be fine.
  • Missing backup links.
  • BTS issues:
  • Release year required for film, as well as books.
    • Didn't specifically list the date for the books, but look how I worked it and see if that accomplishes the same result. - JMAS Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 05:11, April 21, 2020 (UTC)
  • Reference issue; you've sourced almost everything to the novelization.
    • You stated above that there was no need to add a second reference if no new info is added by the second reference. That just happens to be the case why almost everything is referenced to the film. - JMAS Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 05:11, April 21, 2020 (UTC)
  • The flashback info and mention in the novelization is unnecessary since they're already covered by the Appearances. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 06:13, April 20, 2020 (UTC)
  • The above objections were handled via Discord. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 06:50, April 21, 2020 (UTC)
Fan
  • Is it possible to specify who Fox is reporting to in the intro quote?
    • I will have to see if I can lay hands on the novelization, or find someone who has it. I do not know if it is known who he was reporting to. - JMAS Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 23:46, May 20, 2020 (UTC)
    • Done. - JMAS Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 01:28, May 21, 2020 (UTC)
  • From the aftermath section: "Furious at his uncle's treachery, Jabba vowed to have him punished severely, though he was satisfied to let his uncle rot in prison on Coruscant." Male pronouns are used to refer to both Jabba and Ziro in this sentence. Please alter it to refer to Ziro by his name at least once, because it becomes less clear who is being talked about by the second half of the sentence. Fan26 (Talk) 22:35, May 17, 2020 (UTC)
QGJ
  • Infobox
    • Do we really need two refs to source the Battle of Teth in the infobox "previous" field? Just listing the film is more than sufficient.
    • Star Wars Insider 67 and The New Essential Chronology are being used to source events as taking place concurrently with this raid. Both of those sources were released years before TCW and therefore do not contain any mention of the raid. A better explanation is required for those two refs.
    • Desilijic kajidic is infobox exclusive
      • I removed this, because the entire kajidic was not involved. - JMAS Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 03:55, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
    • So is Ziro's full name. He is only referred to as "Desiliji Tiure" in the infobox, the rest of the article always calls him Ziro the Hutt.
    • Same with Fox. His full clone designation is infobox exclusive.
    • Again, why use two refs for the Republic casualties field in the infobox? References should be used as sparingly as possible, and I don't see the need for two sources in this instance.
      • Back when this was first nominated, I recall that I was advised that if a fact was referenced in multiple places, to reference it as such. That has changed since. Fixed now. - JMAS Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 03:55, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
  • The article is titled "Raid on Ziro the Hutt's Coruscant club, but the article constantly refers to the location as "Ziro's Palace." It should be clarified that the club was located inside the palace.
    • Done. - JMAS Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 03:55, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
      • This inconsistency is still present in the main body. The first time the word "club" is ever mentioned is in the "Aftermath" section. Before that, the article only talks about the palace. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 07:48, June 5, 2020 (UTC)
        • Gotcha. OK, have it mentioned throughout now. - JMAS Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 01:07, June 7, 2020 (UTC)
  • Context for Coruscant.
    • Sorry, can you clarify what you mean? - JMAS Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 03:55, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
      • In the Prelude, Coruscant was mentioned without any context. Nvm, I fixed this myself. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 07:48, June 5, 2020 (UTC)
  • It's better to call the CIS by its full name upon first mention, instead of pipelinking it to the Separatists.
    • It is. - JMAS Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 03:55, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
      • It wasn't, though. Because the Republic was in need of the space lanes through Hutt Space to access the Outer Rim Territories, which had been cut off by the Separatists, The Confederacy of Independent Systems was first linked here. I was talking about this part. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 07:48, June 5, 2020 (UTC)
  • As far as I'm aware, "aide" means an actual person who is sent to help. The act of helping is referred to as "aid." There are instances when an incorrect term is used.
  • I'm not sure that the very last sentence of "Aftermath" has any information of value, and its wording is debatable at best. I wouldn't call Amidala being taken hostage (alongside a bunch of other senators, no less), as being instrumental in Ziro's release.
    • Not debatable at all. Amidala and the senators being held hostage was the only reason that Palpatine conceded to Ziro's release. Regardless, I have removed that last sentence as it is not crucial to the article. - JMAS Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 03:55, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
  • Bts
    • "but was first depicted in two young reader books based upon the movie that were both released on the same day of the previous month" Month previous to what? You didn't mention any months before that.
      • One of Shayanomer's objections revolved around those dates, and in discussing with him on Discord, he was adamant that the full year should not to be used. I disagreed, but did not want it to be an objection point. I have redone it with dates included. - JMAS Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 03:55, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
        • I would say that this case falls under the following clause of WP:LG: The exception to this rule is when two sources are being discussed in tandem. In such a case, the month and/or full date may be provided as necessary, particularly if both sources were released in the same year. Therefore, providing the full date is preferrable here, for the sake of clarity. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 07:48, June 5, 2020 (UTC)
    • Why is it called a "direct" junior novelization, necessarily?
    • Can you provide authors for the two young reader books mentioned here?
    • The final sentence is unnecessary. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 10:03, May 21, 2020 (UTC)
      • I disagree. I think it is of note that the adult novelization, which would typically be more expansive, only gives a cursory mention of the raid, while the smaller junior novelization actually depicts the raid. - JMAS Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 03:55, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
        • I understand your point, but I believe that it's still such a minute detail that isn't really worth discussing in the Bts. I will strike this objection, as don't think it as such a big deal. The INQ will know better whether this should be kept in. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 07:48, June 5, 2020 (UTC)

Comments

  • My computer is out of order, and it is just too difficult trying to edit using a tablet. I'm asking for a grace period. I will get these taken care of as soon as I can. - JMAS Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 17:51, June 1, 2020 (UTC)


4-A7

  • Nominated by:--Editoronthewiki (talk) 04:36, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: With the war coming to a close, I figured it would make sense to look back at something from its start.

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Support

  1. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 06:56, May 29, 2020 (UTC)
  2. --TheTrooperGuy (talk) 20:24, July 1, 2020 (UTC)

Object

AV
  • Citation 12 is broken. Looks like you left his Class One degree out of the info box.
    • How should I fix this?--Editoronthewiki (talk) 13:14, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
      • Okay, I did a little research and it doesn't look like you can site the RA-7 being a Class 1 droid to Droidography. Per the descriptions of the droid degrees from Droidography and the Visual Encyclopedia, the RA-7 would be a Class 3. I would add a note along the lines of "Star Wars: The Visual Encyclopedia establishes that protocol droids are third class droids. As the Star Wars: The Clone Wars film depicts 4-A7 as an RA-7 protocol droid, he must be a third class droid." to the infobox alongside Class 3, while changing citation 13 to match. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 17:06, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
        • I have fixed that, but it is still saying the reference is invalid?--Editoronthewiki (talk) 17:29, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
          • Tooks care of the degree field not displaying. As for the citation being invalid, make sure your capitalization matches that of the parent citation. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 17:44, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
  • Per the Star Wars dot com Encyclopedia entry for the Twilight, the ship belonged to Ziro's criminal organization. Given his part in the plot to kidnap Rotta, this might be worth mentioning in the article. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 05:15, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
  • 4-A7's model was reused as Unidentified RA-7 protocol droid (Coruscant), would be worth mentioning in the Bts. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 05:47, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
    • Sorry to interject here, but I've checked Evil Plans' episode guide and it doesn't say anything about that droid's model being repurposed from 4-A7. Until there is concrete evidence, like The Jedi Who Knew Too Much's guide, I say we should leave it out. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 05:58, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
      • I took AV and Shay's points into account and simply noted it looks similar.--Editoronthewiki (talk) 16:51, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
        • Since 4-A7's character model was used a throughout the series for generic droids, I might see about taking the time to track down every time it was reused without alteration, rather than having the article pinpoint this single example. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 17:06, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
          • Should I describe what those droids do like I did for the Coruscant one, or simply list that they were there?--Editoronthewiki (talk) 17:46, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
            • Probsbly that they the model was present in whichever episodes. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 17:48, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
              • Based on what another objection is saying, I feel like it makes more sense for me to not list out every episode. Instead, I could note the similar looking droids exist and source it to several (maybe just three or so) episodes.--Editoronthewiki (talk) 00:16, May 21, 2020 (UTC)
                • Yeah, that makes sense, I agree with this change. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 22:27, May 21, 2020 (UTC)
                  • Should I get into episodes that use the updated model?--Editoronthewiki (talk) 21:08, May 22, 2020 (UTC)
                    • No, I shouldn't think you need to mention that in the Bts beyond the fact that 4-A7's model was updated into R-A7. If R-A7's model was used elsewhere in the series, that should go on their page. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 21:11, May 22, 2020 (UTC)
  • 4-A7 has a sizeable section in Star Wars: Build Your Own R2-D2 11 that contains new information. You can chase down User:Ayrehead02 for access to the source. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 20:52, May 29, 2020 (UTC)
Shayanomer
  • You can definitely cut down at least 2 of the big paragraphs, which would create room for sectioning. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 05:38, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
    • By cut down do you mean reduce word count or split them into separate paragraphs? As I think sectioning means creating subheaders?--Editoronthewiki (talk) 18:11, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
  • In the sources, you need to the list the base episode guide, not the gallery.
    • Looks like Cwedin fixed this while I was writing the objection. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 05:43, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
  • You can definitely add info on 4A-7's model being reused for another droid in The Jedi Who Knew Too Much, according to that gallery. Here, the gallery itself will be used to source this information. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 05:42, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
    • Look okay?--Editoronthewiki (talk) 17:17, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
      • Looks fine for now, but I feel that stuff like the episode seasons is a bit overkill. It doesn't really break the article in my opinion. Better to wait and see what other people think. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 17:31, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
  • Sourcing Jabba's species separately feels really unnecessary since we can clearly see him in the film.
    • Fixed that. Ultimate establishes the dark acolyte title and outright states Ventress kidnapped Rotta, so that is why it is used--Editoronthewiki (talk) 21:28, May 26, 2020 (UTC)
  • I'm sure there's a more concrete source you can use to replace an old SWE entry for the Twilight.
    • I am not sure what you mean. It is only there to source it was part of Ziro's operation.--Editoronthewiki (talk) 21:28, May 26, 2020 (UTC)
      • I've checked the source and it doesn't really make it clear that Teth was occupied by the Separatists. The canon reference books I've checked all say it was within Hutt-controlled territory. Only the fortress was under Separatist control. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 16:17, May 27, 2020 (UTC)
  • I'm also certain there are more quotes from 4-A7 you can include in the article, expanding existing quotes or replacing quotes from other characters.
  • "His gray body was also similar in appearance to the 3PO-series protocol droid." This is unnecessary and feels like speculation.
    • It is very similar to the 3PO series, and I feel like it should be included. There appear to be two in-universe models of RA-7s, those that have a similar body to 3POs and those that do not. As 4-A7 falls into the former category, it should be noted.--Editoronthewiki (talk) 16:01, May 27, 2020 (UTC)
      • Then in that case, every single RA-7 droid of that model has a similar body to a 3PO droid, which I believe would be redundant information on individual droid articles. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 16:17, May 27, 2020 (UTC)
  • "RA-7 was willing to answer and even warned him that the dungeons were dangerous" This is the first time in the article you mention "dungeons." Please elaborate on this.
    • Changed wording in second paragraph of the biography section to fix that--Editoronthewiki (talk) 16:40, May 27, 2020 (UTC)
  • Per Layout Guide, the film only requires the release year in the BTS. This also means you can say that the novelizations came out "before the film."
  • Context for A New Hope. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 10:07, May 24, 2020 (UTC)
    • Good?--Editoronthewiki (talk) 21:28, May 26, 2020 (UTC)
      • You still need to point out that the novels came out before the film. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 16:17, May 27, 2020 (UTC)
  • You've had the update tag and redlink on the article for quite a while. Have you finished updating the article? Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 05:59, June 9, 2020 (UTC)
    • Sorry for the delay. I just needed to double check if some information needed to be added. It is almost done.--Editoronthewiki (talk) 15:07, June 10, 2020 (UTC)
  • Can you replace the SWE reference with something more recent? The precedent is to use it as sparingly as possible. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 09:54, September 4, 2020 (UTC)
  • So that this is official: Redlink needs to be cleared and the page updated. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 18:39, October 13, 2020 (UTC)
Cwedin
  • Just a few things in the BTS:
    • Can you add the full release dates for the film and novels?
      • The film can out in Europe first. Should I put the US release date?--Editoronthewiki (talk) 17:40, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
        • Yes, I would use the film's wide release date (15 August).
    • "Malevolence" should be italicized.
    • The novelization references should also be formatted. - Cwedin(talk) 05:56, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
  • More BTS:
    • Fourth sentence needs a full stop.
    • "An animation model[18] that looks very similar to 4-A7's[2] was later used in the[18] Season Three [19] episode "Evil Plans" as a RA-7 protocol droid on[18] the Republic capital world[20] of Coruscant.[18] For the[21] Season Five[22] episode..." and so on: There's a lot of superfluous info here that could be trimmed down.
      • Good?--Editoronthewiki (talk) 02:30, May 3, 2020 (UTC)
        • Better. You can also remove the references in "For the[19] Season Five[20] episode..." since all of that can be sourced to [19]. - Cwedin(talk) 02:52, May 3, 2020 (UTC)
    • I'd also recommend splitting the BTS into two paragraphs. - Cwedin(talk) 02:17, May 3, 2020 (UTC)
      • I still have some work to get done in it, but this has been done--Editoronthewiki (talk) 13:44, May 15, 2020 (UTC)
  • Some minor things:
    • The links to Confederacy should be removed, since that's a real world disambiguation page.
    • In the second intro paragraph, there's a stray "but."
    • In the bio: "a RA-7" --> "an RA-7."
    • The image captions should use characters' full names.
    • In the BTS, I don't think it's necessary to mention every instance of a similar animation model. Maybe something like "Animation models used for the RA-7 series in the television series look very similar to 4-A7's model," and then reference that sentence with some of the episodes.
    • "Star Wars Legends" should be identified as a continuity. - Cwedin(talk) 20:40, May 16, 2020 (UTC)
Ben
QGJ
  • The infobox death field can all be sourced with a single ref note, if you add a little additional context.
  • What exactly was "dangerous?" It's unclear what you are referring to here. Warning the Jedi Knight that it was dangerous
  • Same thing in the "Characteristics." When the Jedi Knight asked where Rotta was, RA-7 was willing to answer and even warned him that it was dangerous.
  • Do we need both refs for the release date of the two novelizations in the Bts? Can't we just stick with one?
    • Well, he first appeared in both, and they were released the same day. So I had figured it was needed.--Editoronthewiki (talk) 21:51, May 21, 2020 (UTC)
      • I meant this part: which were both released on July 26, 2008. It is currently sourced to both to the Year by Year book and the SW.com article. If both of those sources proviode the release date for the aforementioned books, we can just pick one source, having two refs is redundant in this case. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 09:51, May 25, 2020 (UTC)
        • Year by Year only provides the release date for the junior novel, so two refs are needed. But it looks like the SW.com reference doesn't actually mention the Del Rey novelization, so that should be replaced with an Amazon listing or something. - Cwedin(talk) 17:39, May 27, 2020 (UTC)
          • Could someone help me with that Amazon link? I have the url, back up link, and title there, but I am doing something wrong.--Editoronthewiki (talk) 20:55, May 28, 2020 (UTC)
            • I've fixed this for you. You had some wrong parameter names. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 06:56, May 29, 2020 (UTC)
  • Article is listed in Category:Espionage droids, but I don't see the term linked anywhere in the article. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 13:05, May 21, 2020 (UTC)
    • I had to use the term "spy droid," as that's the canon version.--Editoronthewiki (talk) 22:14, May 21, 2020 (UTC)
      • You are correct. I did not notice that the canon term is different, my bad. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 09:51, May 25, 2020 (UTC)
OOM
Zed
  • In the intro: "Turning her weapon against the protocol droid, 4-A7 told her to not dare kill him, only to then be swiftly decapitated." This wording seems to imply that 4-A7 is the one turning a weapon. Zed42 (talk) 10:14, September 4, 2020 (UTC)

Comments

  • There are several things I want community opinion on--Editoronthewiki (talk) 04:36, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
    • When Ahsoka lights her lightsaber after he calls her a servant girl, his arms are slightly raised, implying he was surprised/scared. I figure this is too much of an assumption, but I might as well ask.--Editoronthewiki (talk) 04:36, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
      • I think it would be safe to say he was startled by Ahsoka's actions. - JMAS Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 06:05, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
        • Should I put that in the characteristics section or biography?--Editoronthewiki (talk) 13:17, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
          • I don't think it was a characteristic, so I think the biography section. - JMAS Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 18:53, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
            • Well I put "seemingly" just in case it was part of his act. It probably was not, but just to be sure.--Editoronthewiki (talk) 23:26, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
    • When Ahsoka talks to him on the landing pad, he kind of seems nervous, but I also want community opinion to see if I should include that.--Editoronthewiki (talk) 04:36, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
    • I think I should continue to go through The Clone Wars episodes to see if his name appears in the credits of other episodes. I had just wanted this nomination up before Season Seven ended. Should I only be looking in the English credits? Disney plus does show some foreign credits at the end of episodes.--Editoronthewiki (talk) 04:36, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
      • Update on this: I checked the credits of all of season one and two. I will continue to go through and check each episode's credits in the coming days. I am only checking the blue credits that appear before the clip of R2-D2 presenting the logo.--Editoronthewiki (talk) 02:55, May 3, 2020 (UTC)
        • Well it has taken me too long to get back to this! I have gone through seasons three, four, and seven now. Sorry it has taken me so long to finish this part of the nomination.--Editoronthewiki (talk) 02:03, September 13, 2020 (UTC)
  • What is the canon source for the name 4-A7? If the only canon source that names the character is the episode guide, then the page needs to be moved to 4A7 with no dashes. - JMAS Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 05:23, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
    • The 4-A7 spelling comes from the film credits. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 05:33, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
      • Thanks for clarifying. Since Disney+ sometimes changes the subtitles from the blu-ray releases, I did confirm that both the blu-ray and Disney+ credits list him as 4-A7. - JMAS Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 06:08, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
  • Per a conversation I had via talk pages with User:DarthRuiz30, this article is now going with the assumption that the three battle droids were B1s. It will also make this project a lot easier.--Editoronthewiki (talk) 21:58, May 4, 2020 (UTC)
  • After observing this article for a while, it's my observation that this article is not suitable for nomination currently. Sources have been added since the nomination's beginning. Rule 1 of the nomination policy states that the article must be "well-written and comprehensively detailed". In my opinion, 4-A7 hasn't reached that point as it is still undergoing more updates. Since the nomination began, the article has gained a whopping 16k bytes in size. Every time the article undergoes such a change, it has to reviewed all over again, and more copy-edits have to be made to eliminate grammar and formatting errors. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 06:57, October 6, 2020 (UTC)


Silver Angel

  • Nominated by: RattsT (talk) 05:18, May 6, 2020 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: My first FAN, hopefully this goes well!

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Support

  1. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 07:17, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
  2. Great job on maintaining the article. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 09:48, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
  3. Nice work.--TheTrooperGuy (talk) 20:17, July 1, 2020 (UTC)
  4. JMAS Jolly Trooper.png Hey, it's me! 06:16, July 8, 2020 (UTC)
  5. --Editoronthewiki (talk) 17:14, July 8, 2020 (UTC)

Object

Shayanomer
  • "The job went awry, however, when Trace dumped the spice into hyperspace, fearful of what her sister's employers, the Pyke Syndicate, could do to her and her ship." Try to restructure this sentence to reduce the overuse of commas.
  • Double reference for the last sentence in Description is unnecessary, only the episode guide can be used here.
  • I don't think the info about Trace naming the ship can be sourced to the Databank, Deal No Deal would suffice here.
  • Kessel being a planet will need a reference of its own.
  • I believe the pilot who abandoned the spice delivery can have an article of its own.
  • You can add more info about the military lane, specifically, the Venator that Yularen and Skywalker were on.
  • Marg Krim can be introduced as the Pyke leader on his first mention in the article.
  • The Kom'rk that follows the Angel is the Gauntlet, which is missing from this article.
  • Ziro's escape from prison can be given a date.
  • Context for Ghost and Rebels in the BTS.
  • The concept artist(s) who illustrated the ship can be added to the BTS.
  • Reviewing note: Take care with the placement of commas in quotations.
  • Reviewing note: Be careful of underlinking in future nominations. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 08:52, May 8, 2020 (UTC)
    • All objections handled, except for the date note. Not sure how to figure out the placement of that event. RattsT (talk) 19:38, May 8, 2020 (UTC)
      • Use Anza as a guide. Since Galactic Atlas doesn't date the hostage crisis, you'll have to find the two closest events in the episode order and work out an approximate date. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 19:45, May 8, 2020 (UTC)
  • You should reference the specific gallery that makes the connection between this ship and the Ghost, which is the trivia gallery in this case. This can be done using the site's search bar since the guide doesn't allow you to open the individual galleries separately. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 19:50, May 8, 2020 (UTC)
  • The name of the Gauntlet will need a reference of its own. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 07:31, May 9, 2020 (UTC)
  • Escape from Oba Diah is missing from the infobox. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 09:06, May 10, 2020 (UTC)
  • Can you add some info on their capture in the intro as they tried to escape in the ship? Right now, it abruptly jumps to their escape from prison after dumping the spice.
  • Hyperdrive, communications and shields are missing from the infobox.
  • You've used "however" a lot in the article, can you introduce some variation in the wording?
  • Maul's takeover of Mandalore will need to sourced to Shades of Reason. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 08:27, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
  • Missing Sources: Rafa and Ahsoka's Databank entries, this TV spot, Deal No Deal clip.
  • Deal No Deal's concept art gallery shows that JP Balmet drew the ship's exterior, this is missing from the BTS. In addition, one of the images in that gallery depicts Kessel and Oba Diah's lighting concept with the ship in it, done by Jason Boesch. The gallery in Together Again also has more lighting concept artwork by Boesch. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 08:40, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
    • Addressed all. RattsT (talk) 09:18, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
      • Great, just add little more in the intro about them attempting to escape from the palace before their capture and split it into two paragraphs. You also need to add a reference to Together Again's gallery with the specific slide. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 09:25, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
        • Is it necessary to cite every appearance of concept art? The fact that Boesch did artwork for the ship is already sourced to the DND gallery. RattsT (talk) 09:33, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
          • For comprehensiveness, it doesn't hurt to include it. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 09:36, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
            • Alright, added. RattsT (talk) 09:44, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
AV
  • The TCW Season 7 OST provides the alternate spelling Silverangel in the second volume. I would recommend making some mention of this in the Bts. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 02:41, May 12, 2020 (UTC)
    • Gross, they misspelled "Pikes" too. Added. RattsT (talk) 03:37, May 12, 2020 (UTC)
QGJ
  • This sentence makes it seem like Trace knew about Ahsoka's Jedi past right away, which wasn't the case. A little rewording is required. Martez was impressed with the former Jedi Padawan's eye for ships,
  • Lokann's name should be spelled out, instead of pipelinked as "a criminal" like that.
  • Please look into cutting some of the play-by-play details in the history. There are quite a lot of sentences, especially in the whole Oba Diah sequence, containing phrases such as "character X said this" and "character Y responded with that." This is always distracting, especially when the characters aren't even the focus of the article - the ship is.
    • I've excised some bits here and there, let me know if I can do more. I kept a bit between the sisters after their first escape because they're talking directly about the ship. RattsT (talk) 09:52, June 1, 2020 (UTC)
  • Both "Running spice" and "Escaping Oba Diah" sections look fairly long in the Oasis skin. Now this may change, depending on how much info you cut down. For now though, I feel like it's best to split those two sections and make them into three instead.
  • Is it "Pyke Palace" or "the Pyke Palace?" Please check the sources for the correct spelling. If the sources use both, then just choose one spelling yourself for consistency.
  • I feel like Maul deserves a tad more context upon first introduction, something like "former Sith Lord" should suffice.
  • Also related to Maul. You need to establish that Maul was in control of Mandalore, to give context for Bo-Katan's desire to defeat him. they were interrupted by the Mandalorian Bo-Katan Kryze, who had followed them from Oba Diah to request Tano's help in defeating Maul. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 09:09, June 1, 2020 (UTC)
    • All other points addressed. RattsT (talk) 09:52, June 1, 2020 (UTC)
      • All that's left is to provide a quote for the "Escaping to Coruscant" section. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 08:58, June 3, 2020 (UTC)
Braha'tok enthusiast
  • Would it be possible to mention Tano parting with the sisters in the intro? Even if it's only brief. Ben sc01t (Hello there) 13:01, July 7, 2020 (UTC)
OOM

Comments

EV-9D9

  • Nominated by: AV-6R7Crew Pit 22:43, May 11, 2020 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: I have taken care of the leftover objections from the original nomination.

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Support

  1. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 20:45, June 26, 2020 (UTC)
  2. Fantastic work! RattsT (talk) 01:38, June 27, 2020 (UTC)
  3. Ben sc01t (Hello there) 17:33, July 1, 2020 (UTC)
  4. --TheTrooperGuy (talk) 20:27, July 1, 2020 (UTC)
  5. --Editoronthewiki (talk) 14:36, July 2, 2020 (UTC)
  6. Impressive work! - - -OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 20:30, October 17, 2020 (UTC)

Object

TQG
  • Can you please add her Topps Finest 2019 - Droids card from Star Wars Card Trader to the sources and check that it has no unique information (See here for more details+release date) Toqgers (talk) 06:43, May 17, 2020 (UTC)
    • It would be good to list this card in Sources even if it doesn't feature unique info. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk)
      • She's also mentioned in the 8D8 card for the set. Should I make entries for both cards on the Card Trader wiki? - AV-6R7Crew Pit 22:07, May 20, 2020 (UTC)
        • Why not? There's no harm in including them. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 23:38, May 20, 2020 (UTC)
          • Added both cards to the sources section, made them entires in the Card Trader wiki, and added what new information there was to this article. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 21:03, May 22, 2020 (UTC)
            • You also need to upload images of the cards to that wiki, so that there's a permanent record of them. Also as a note, set names in the template must be italicized. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 20:27, May 23, 2020 (UTC)
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Shayanomer
  • "...a flaw many of her model shared." This reads a little confusing.
  • You need to state that Galactic Atlas also dates the Battle of Yavin to 0 BBY in the date note.
  • "When the Trandoshan bounty hunter Bossk, working to retrieve the droid for the Empire, tracked it to the palace, the supervisor droid explained that 261 had escaped, claiming that he would soon learn some respect." Please restructure this to reduce its run-on nature.
    • Rewritten. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 03:41, May 26, 2020 (UTC)
      • I still think you can do better, try something like "When Bossk tracked the droid to the palace after being hired by the Empire". Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 08:22, May 26, 2020 (UTC)
  • Han Solo, R2-D2 and C-3PO need context in the body.
    • Added context for Han, R2 and 3PO already have context later in the paragraph. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 03:41, May 26, 2020 (UTC)
      • Per precedent, the context is always provided on their first mention. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 08:22, May 26, 2020 (UTC)
  • "C-3PO, a protocol droid, was made Jabba's new interpreter, as his last one was disintegrated after it had angered him, and was fitted with a restraining bolt before being returned to the palace's main audience chamber, and R2-D2, an astromech droid, was forced to serve drinks aboard Jabba's sail barge, the Khetanna." This is also too much of a run-on.
    • Split sentence. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 03:41, May 26, 2020 (UTC)
      • This will work with the above objection, moving the context will reduce this sentence's run-on nature. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 08:22, May 26, 2020 (UTC)
        • Forgot to note I fixed this with a prior objection. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 05:02, June 2, 2020 (UTC)
  • "...and some very nasty reprogramming." This doesn't sound so formal and encyclopedic.
  • "She ordered the torture of any droid that disobeyed her commands and, more often than not, even those that obeyed her. EV-9D9 relished her role as taskmaster of all the palace's droids and loved disintegrating her subordinates." It looks like information on torturing subordinates/those who obeyed her is repeated here.
    • I disagree, the first sentence explains the circumstances under which she orders the torture of her subordinates. I've swapped the sentences to better clarify this. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 03:41, May 26, 2020 (UTC)
  • If there's no relation between EV and the console behind her, then the Equipment section should be removed entirely.
  • I think her appearance in the Battlefront games can be detailed in the BTS (i.e. name of the map where she can be found). Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 16:28, May 25, 2020 (UTC)
    • Added Battlefront info to Bts. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 02:21, May 30, 2020 (UTC)
      • Release dates for these content updates are needed too, with proper sources. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 14:50, June 2, 2020 (UTC)
        • Added. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 04:47, June 16, 2020 (UTC)
          • The WebCitation link for Welcome to the Outer Rim isn't functioning properly. Can you use Internet Archive or another alternative? We're moving away from WebCitation for backup links as the site doesn't do its job properly. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 04:54, June 16, 2020 (UTC)
            • I replaced it with an IA link, but the webpage doesn't seem to function properly when archived. However, the data is still accessible with the ctrl + u command. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 05:06, June 16, 2020 (UTC)
  • Please check Star Wars Helmet Collection and other De Agostini magazines for appearances. I'm certain she's appeared somewhere since this is a prominent character. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 19:05, May 25, 2020 (UTC)
  • You now have over five redlinks in the article. You'll need to create the pages for the magazines. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 06:56, June 6, 2020 (UTC)
    • That should be all of the redlinks taken care of. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 03:33, June 16, 2020 (UTC)
  • An {{Imagecat}} can be added. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 13:48, June 19, 2020 (UTC)
    • Article already had one (down in external links due to how things used to be formatted), but I've moved it up to appearances. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 21:29, June 19, 2020 (UTC)
  • Now that she's confirmed to be in The Mandalorian, can you add a set photo from the show in the BTS? (this can be taken from Practical) Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 13:48, June 19, 2020 (UTC)
  • Please resolve the redlinks in the article. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 06:13, June 23, 2020 (UTC)
  • I think it would be better to move the image of 3PO and R2 to "The fall of a criminal empire," and have the old infobox image in the first section. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 06:22, June 23, 2020 (UTC)
    • Moved and added the old image back. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 07:16, June 23, 2020 (UTC)
      • Can you make some modifications so that the image does not indent the heading? Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 07:24, June 23, 2020 (UTC)
        • Adjusting the size did nothing, so I decided to move it up. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 08:03, June 23, 2020 (UTC)
  • Please create a page for the card you just added on the Card Trader wiki as the link here is currently a redlink over there. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 19:56, September 23, 2020 (UTC)
    • Created page for the card I didn't add. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 19:32, October 1, 2020 (UTC)
  • Return of the Jedi: Beware the Power of the Dark Side! audiobook missing from Appearances. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 12:56, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Article must include info from Chapter 5's concept art gallery. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 12:41, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
QGJ
  • Context for R2-D2 and C-3PO needed in the intro.
  • Some of the paragraphs look huge in the Oasis skin. Please introduce more paragraph breaks, especially in "Chief of Cyborg Operations", "Characteristics" and the Bts.
  • "Characteristics" also desperately needs an image.
  • Bts could use subsectioning
  • I would move that concept art from Appearances to the Bts.
  • Can you provide a quote for the "Galactic Civil War" section?
    • Moved quote from first section to second since its more relevant. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 01:09, June 16, 2020 (UTC)
  • Speaking of that section. Even though it's called "Galactic Civil War," the actual term is not mentioned once in that section. Maybe it's worth renaming it to something more relevant to EV-9D9?
  • The quote in the Bts would benefit from some context on Anthony Daniels
  • Is 261 supposed to be referred as "he" or "it?" There are instances of both pronouns. Please stick with one.
  • Her non-canon appearance in Disney Infinity 3.0 needs to be discussed in the Bts.
    • Added. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 05:00, June 16, 2020 (UTC)
      • I feel like this needs a tad more context. What is this Toy Box mode and what it involves? Just a few more words would suffice. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 18:34, June 19, 2020 (UTC)
        • Added some additional context. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 02:20, June 21, 2020 (UTC)
  • If she appears in Star Wars: The Original Trilogy – A Graphic Novel, she is likely to appear in Star Wars: Return of the Jedi Graphic Novel Adaptation as well. Please check and add to the "Appearances" if necessary. QuiGonJinn Senate seal.svg(Talk) 13:27, June 5, 2020 (UTC)
    • Can confirm that her appearance from the OT graphic novel is intact in the standalone RotJ version. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 03:47, June 16, 2020 (UTC)
Tommy
  • Just so this is a formal objection, this article needs to be updated with all missing Mandalorian content. Tommy-Macaroni 08:43, June 19, 2020 (UTC)
Ratts
  • Paragraph break needed in the intro.
  • Images need to be repositioned.
    • How do the images look now? - AV-6R7Crew Pit 21:18, June 19, 2020 (UTC)
      • Pretty good. As of now the concept art image should be moved to the left, but I assume you'll add a picture from Gallery that will offset it anyway. RattsT (talk) 21:26, June 19, 2020 (UTC)
  • A quote could be added to the first section of the bio. RattsT (talk) 20:31, June 19, 2020 (UTC)
  • In the Legacy section, can the capacity to which she's mentioned in Survival Skills be expanded?
    • Expanded. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 03:12, June 21, 2020 (UTC)
      • Now it's a run-on. You should break that sentence up. RattsT (talk) 03:51, June 21, 2020 (UTC)
  • Details of the changes between her appearances in Jedi and Mando can be included in Characteristics.
    • By changes, due you literally mean her appearance or her personality - AV-6R7Crew Pit 01:32, June 23, 2020 (UTC)
      • I was referring to the physical changes, yeah; the photoreceptors changing from yellow to white, the insignia on her chestplate disappearing, etc; I don't know if we can really say her personality changed. Maybe just note that she was unhelpful to Djarin. RattsT (talk) 16:47, June 23, 2020 (UTC)
        • Her photoreceptors were always white in RotJ, but merch had them as yellow which has tripped us up for years. I rewatched the scene recently and they're white like in Mando. I'll add the symbols disappearing. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 17:48, June 23, 2020 (UTC)
          • Added info about her markings disappearing between 4 and 9 ABY. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 18:54, June 24, 2020 (UTC)
  • Mando BTS can be expanded with "Connections" info.
    • Expanded. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 04:55, June 23, 2020 (UTC)
      • One minor thing, the clause of Mark voicing her should be as close as possible to the subject. RattsT (talk) 16:47, June 23, 2020 (UTC)
  • Some minor objections while the Inuse template remains up:
    • In the final paragraph of the "Fall of a criminal empire" section, it should be noted who tasked R2 with his task.
    • Threepio's "Don't leave me!" quote is missing his "Oh!"
      • Added, as well as context for the "Oh!". - AV-6R7Crew Pit 02:05, June 21, 2020 (UTC)
        • I don't think the context is really necessary. RattsT (talk) 02:15, June 21, 2020 (UTC)
          • I think it's fine since he audibly collides with something in the audio for the quote. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 02:59, June 21, 2020 (UTC)
    • Mark Hamill's name is misspelled in the "Connections" quote. RattsT (talk) 01:24, June 21, 2020 (UTC)
    • "Tiny and basis, they were allowed her…" seems to have some grammatical mistakes. RattsT (talk) 00:50, June 25, 2020 (UTC)
  • Redlinks should be created. RattsT (talk) 16:47, June 23, 2020 (UTC)
Braha'tok enthusiast
  • Regarding the large paragraphs in the Characteristics and BtS sections:
    • Characteristics–I would recommend making the last two paragraphs in the characteristics a separate sub-section about EV's mechanical aspects (as that's what those two paragraphs describe) comprising of three paragraphs.
      • How does that look? - AV-6R7Crew Pit 15:46, July 1, 2020 (UTC)
        • Is there a quote available for the Physical traits section? Ben sc01t (Hello there) 15:55, July 1, 2020 (UTC)
          • I've basically exhausted all available quotes at this point unless you think Toro's "Think again, tin can." line would be fitting here. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 16:13, July 1, 2020 (UTC)
    • BtS–The 13 line paragraph in the Conception and Portrayal part of the BtS should be split. It's looking very chunky. Ben sc01t (Hello there) 15:11, July 1, 2020 (UTC)
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Comments

  • Just noting that she is in the reference book Star Wars: Extraordinary Droids, which I've added to the sources, but there doesn't appear to be any new information in her entry that you need to add. I haven't read it cover to cover yet, but I don't think she's mentioned elsewhere, since she's not in Artoo or Threepio's entry and 8D8 doesn't have an entry of his own. Toqgers (talk) 22:30, June 13, 2020 (UTC)
    • Thanks, I had no idea that book was a thing. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 05:46, June 14, 2020 (UTC)


Jes Gistang (Redux review)

  • Redux comments: Reduxed per Meeting 115.
  • Date added: June 1, 2020

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Anil
  • As Imperators stated on the Inq review page, P&T needs to have its grammar thoroughly checked.
  • Is the bit about the action figure in BTS actually notable? If so, I don't think the current sources mention the Comic-Con at all. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders.svg Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 00:10, June 2, 2020 (UTC)
    • Nah, probably predated it actually being released. Removed the Comic-Con bit. Green Tentacle (Talk) 21:06, June 10, 2020 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • Some preliminaries. First, ref 2 really doesn't work in its current form because NEC doesn't mention 137 ABY. You should instead a find a source that does.
    • I've put it back to the comic itself since it says "approximately 137 years after the Battle of Yavin" and that's literally the definition of ABY. Green Tentacle (Talk) 20:53, August 18, 2020 (UTC)
  • I understand why someone at one time chose the current infobox image, because it's the best close-up shot we have of her, but it's kind of unusual that we're opting to depict her with her eyes closed. There are other not-terrible options from the comic with her eyes open. I'd suggest the one panel where she's saying, "They can't be serious!" Her face is partially obscured by the glove, but you get a perfect straight-on look at her, and her eyes are open.
  • The comic never says she was "born on the planet Corellia"; she merely states that she's Corellian. She easily could have been born elsewhere but still be of Corellian heritage. This should be revised.
  • In accordance with Wookieepedia:Layout Guide#External links, I'm going to call for the removal of that Comic-Con link as not being of "critical relevance." Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:00, August 11, 2020 (UTC)
  • Going back to the Corellia objection, we don't actually know she's from that planet, correct? So this should be removed from the infobox too.
  • Since the "Battle of Borosk" is apparently a conjectural title, this article should avoid referring to it as a formal name like it currently does in the intro. Please revise. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:18, September 14, 2020 (UTC)
  • This definition of the Imperial Mission is not found in Legacy 4. You'll need to find another source that can support this: "an organization designed to spread Imperial influence by helping beings of the galaxy."
  • This also does not appear to be reflected anywhere in the comic: "During her career as a stormtrooper, Gistang became a respected, talented soldier"
  • Nor does it say this exactly: "and eventually was put in charge of the squad's heavy weaponry." She's never shown to be "in charge" of anything, nor does she wield "weaponry," a term suggesting plural weapons. She just wields the "big gun." This wording should be revised. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:25, September 15, 2020 (UTC)
    • Reworded the weaponry bit, but Harkas specifically says "Jes Gistang is in charge of the big gun." Green Tentacle (Talk) 20:21, September 23, 2020 (UTC)
  • Going back to the intro, this wording is not accurate, or at least unsupported. The story does not say she "decided to join" the 407th "through the Imperial Mission," which is unlikely anyways, since realistically she was probably assigned to the unit after being placed in the military outside of the Imperial Mission, which itself is not indicated to be military: "...she decided to join the 407th Stormtrooper Division through the Imperial Mission..." This will need to be revised.
  • Nor does the story say she was a "young woman" when she joined the Imperial Mission. That's one interpretation, but it's not supported by the story. The fact is, we don't know how old she is. She could be in her 40s, for all we know.
  • Going along with my previous objections to the Bio, this entire sentence is completely unsupported by the story: "Put in charge of the heavy weaponry in Joker Squad, she quickly found a home among the 407th, proving a talented and responsible soldier."
  • I don't think any of this is supported by the story either. She doesn't give him guidance or tips or sympathy. All she does is sit down with him for a moment and run through the different personalities of their unit. "She guided Trask and gave him tips to help him survive among the stormtroopers and even sympathized with the man." Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:03, September 24, 2020 (UTC)
    • Removed all the Trask stuff from the intro. A couple of conversations doesn't really merit a mention outside the biography. Green Tentacle (Talk) 20:45, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
  • For starters in the Bio, the first subsection title, "Stormtrooper," is rather uninspired. I'd like to see something a little more compelling there for readers to be drawn into.
    • Any better? It's hard to think of anything particularly inspiring. Green Tentacle (Talk) 21:24, October 19, 2020 (UTC)
  • I feel like it would add a little something extra to include in the first Bio quote Trask's question, "What's your story?" and then her full response from "Not much to tell." through "Some of the others have better stories." Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:09, October 13, 2020 (UTC)

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Dawson (Tynnan)

  • Nominated by: OtterSurf (talk) 18:31, June 25, 2020 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Ooh, my first FA nomination!

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Fan
  • This is from the intro: "Dawson's incendiary talents came in immensely handy for Noone and his associates" There's a grammatical error here.
  • The last sentence of the into is currently one big run-on that's almost half of that paragraph. Please revise this.
  • There are several instances where the article is written in a more narrative tone (e.g. "However, his idyll was not to last", "Not to be deterred", "array of incendiary paraphernalia", just to name a few) rather than a formal, encyclopedic summary. Please try to fix this. Fan26 (Talk) 15:49, June 27, 2020 (UTC)
    • All fixed. OtterSurf (talk) 18:10, June 27, 2020 (UTC)
      • There's still a few cases of encyclopedic tone.
        • These should be fixed. OtterSurf (talk) 09:00, June 29, 2020 (UTC)
          • I think there's still a couple instances of this. Fan26 (Talk) 13:12, July 11, 2020 (UTC)
            • Specifics, please. OtterSurf (talk) 18:42, July 11, 2020 (UTC)
              • For starters, "stuffy bureaucracy" in the intro. Lose the adjective there. "fledgling gustatory enterprise" as well. Fan26 (Talk) 15:37, August 10, 2020 (UTC)
  • "Sluissi team member Hass Sonax discovered that the meeting was being catered, and so Noone's crew disguised themselves as staff from the fledgling gustatory enterprise Estimable Epicures to get aboard the herdship." I don't think Sonax learning that the meeting had caterers is relevant to Dawson-just say the meeting was being catered. Fan26 (Talk) 01:54, June 29, 2020 (UTC)
  • In the "The Great Herdship Heist" subsection, Bimm links to a disambig page. Fan26 (Talk) 15:37, August 10, 2020 (UTC)
    • That's because Ritinki is identified as a Bimm, but it's never stated which species. OtterSurf (talk) 17:20, August 10, 2020 (UTC)
  • "whose contents were revealed"-switch to "the contents revealed" here. Fan26 (Talk) 15:37, August 10, 2020 (UTC)
OOM
  • An {{Imagecat}} template for Dawson should be added under Appearances.
  • The article could be placed in more categories.
  • (Reviewing note) Per the Layout Guide: "Do not separate compound terms upon first linking instance." I have fixed this for you.
  • "Dawson was a Tynnan male demolitions expert partnered with thief Cecil Noone around 0 ABY. An expert in explosives […]" Has two mentions of expert; doesn't read very well. - - -CIS roundel.svg OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 11:09, July 15, 2020 (UTC)
    • Done, done, thanks, and fixed! OtterSurf (talk) 13:41, July 17, 2020 (UTC)
      • Great! I've removed the criminals category since thieves is a sub-category of it. - - -CIS roundel.svg OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 13:12, July 18, 2020 (UTC)
  • The youmay template should be changed to otheruses per the Naming policy. A disambig page is already created at Dawson. - - -CIS roundel.svg OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 19:10, September 4, 2020 (UTC)
Tommy
  • Preliminary objections:
    • Please specify the parameters "thumb|position|size" for every file.
    • Comic images need to be of digital quality. The body one especially looks very low-res.
    • Context for water-wall please.
    • Underlinking: "day," "orbit," "hull," "realspace" to name a few.
    • The last sentence of "Early life" is a run-on.
    • In-text quotations should use ", not '.
    • Dawson's clothing, such as his spacesuit, should be mentioned in Equipment. Tommy-Macaroni 20:15, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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Tarsus Valorum/Legends

  • Nominated by: Brandon Rhea(talk) 17:40, August 8, 2020 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: This article was voted to FA status in 2009 and had its status revoked in 2019 due to needing an update from The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia. I've now made that update as well as updated the BTS to reflect its Legends status. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 17:40, August 8, 2020 (UTC)

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Shayanomer
  • Reviewing note: Seeing as I linked the wrong guide in the edit summary, I'm going to correct it here. Per the Linking section in the Manual of Style, compound terms must not be separated when linking a subject's first instance, like what you did with "Emissary-class shuttle" here.
  • I would remove the BTS image, there doesn't appear to be enough space for it. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 09:39, September 29, 2020 (UTC)
    • Not enough space how? - Brandon Rhea(talk) 14:34, October 2, 2020 (UTC)
      • Not only is it stretched all the way down to Sources, it's unnecessarily increasing the width of the BTS paragraph. This wouldn't be an issue if the BTS was longer, but that isn't the case here. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 14:42, October 2, 2020 (UTC)
        • I don't see any rules where this is explicitly stated. There are several FAs where this sort of format is used, including Kkkt, which you voted for. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 16:13, October 2, 2020 (UTC)
          • I guess it's up to personal preference. I won't force you to remove it if you feel it's not necessary. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 18:33, October 3, 2020 (UTC)
  • Check your file formatting. Blank spaces in filenames must be filled in with underscores.
    • Done, though is this a rule? Wikitext doesn't require underscores to render an image. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 14:55, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
      • Not that I've seen (unless I've missed it somewhere), but I've seen objections about this in plenty of nominations. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 15:14, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
  • "Early fifties" seems to imply that Valorum could've been born at any point between 1054 and 1050 BBY. I think you should add these dates to the article body and rework the date note to include them as well.
    • I wouldn't speculate as to what the text means by "early fifties," so specifying it as being up to 1054 BBY seems speculatory. Better to keep the "circa 1050 BBY" note that's in there now. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 14:55, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
      • It's not wrong to pull out a date range based on that wording, see Ruescott Melshi as an example. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 15:14, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
        • That's different. "his thirties" is a clearly definable period of time based on the known date. Adding 1054 as the highest possible date is assuming the intent of "early fifties." Assume it said "mid fifties." Is that 55-57? 54-58? You could go down a rabbit hole of assuming what that means. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 15:24, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
  • You should also include dates in their respectives notes too, per ample recent precedent.
  • Using "this" or "these" in in-universe text is discouraged as it implies the present tense. Please reword any instances.
    • How does it imply present tense when it refers to something other than time? I changed the one instance I saw that referred to time, but otherwise it's pretty clear in other examples what "this" is referring to. "To this end" = pretty normal turn of phrase. "this bureaucratic system" referring to the sentence that came before it. "this tactic" doing the same thing. Etc. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 14:55, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
      • Precedent, I've received the same objection here. I think you can substitute them with "that" or "those". Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 15:14, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
        • I'll look at it but this is silly. This precedent reads like someone imposing personal preference regardless of something being grammatically correct. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 15:24, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
  • I believe you can introduce another section (and therefore another quote) after "Diplomatic efforts," related to his kidnapping attempt. The third paragraph can be cut down to accommodate this as it's currently quite big.
    • Added another section. I'll need to dig for a quote. I'm traveling for awhile and don't have the book with me. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 14:55, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Much of the info in said paragraph is sourced entirely to Ref 8, a date note. Did you mean to source that info to another source?
  • The image in "Personality and traits" seems redundant as the caption repeats info from the image caption in "Diplomatic efforts."
    • I'd like to keep the image for illustrative purposes, but I've tweaked the caption to better connect it to the text it's next to. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 14:55, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
  • His hair and eye colors are currently infobox-exclusive.
  • The New Dawn's ship class should be introduced upon the ship's first mention.
  • Darth Plagueis and Darth Bane: Rule of Two both have another audiobook adaptation which should presumably be added to Appearances since they're unabridged (and their redlinks filled in too). When adding them, ensure that the section complies with the Layout Guide. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 07:25, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

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Some objections that were handled via the Legends channel on Discord:

Still to come:

  • Fill in the Plagueis audiobook redlink.
  • Find and cite a source that says Chris Trevas created the artwork for the character.

- Brandon Rhea(talk) 19:16, August 8, 2020 (UTC)

  • Audiobook redlink has been filled in. I also added an Equipment section. I cannot, however, find a source that says Chris Trevas was the artist who created the image of Tarsus. Without that, I will opt to not include artist info on the page. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 20:25, August 8, 2020 (UTC)


Atrisia/Legends

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  1. Excellent work. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 15:01, September 22, 2020 (UTC)

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  • Something I should've noticed before. Have you checked the The New Jedi Order: Force Heretic I: Remnant audiobooks (here and here) for mentions? Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 16:47, October 12, 2020 (UTC)
    • Thanks; the unabridged version does mention it. Imperators II(Talk) 22:02, October 12, 2020 (UTC)


Farns Monsbee

  • Nominated by: Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:53, September 13, 2020 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Finally found an interview to push this over 1000

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Shayanomer
  • The true nature of the Eadu mission is sourced entirely to Card Trader, which doesn't support this information. Should source it to the film instead. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 07:07, September 23, 2020 (UTC)

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  • Don't want to leave this as an objection, but after a discussion a while ago on the discord server we had about the starting point of the Galactic Civil War, we moved the starting point to by the time of the Action at Mustafar, as the databank entry for Mustafar stated the mission was part of the Galactic Civil War. Therefore, all events in Rogue One and for Farns would be part of the Galactic Civil War instead of the early rebellion --Lewisr (talk) 15:06, September 13, 2020 (UTC)


Telosian Jedi Academy (Redux review)

  • Redux comments: Reduxed per Meeting 118.
  • Date added: October 4, 2020

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Imp
  • I'm not seeing the information from the image label on p. 31 of The Jedi Path presented in the article. Imperators II(Talk) 08:06, October 21, 2020 (UTC)

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  • Updated article with Jedi vs Sith.
  • I'm also currently expanding the article with some missing information from the Prima guide. Will update here when finished. - - -OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 16:12, 23 October 2020 (UTC)


Maximian Ajax

  • Nominated by: Ben sc01t (Hello there) 13:51, October 7, 2020 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: I love Twilight Company for the range of soldier personalities that it offers, and Ajax is like that cocky soldier that loves cracking jokes at his comrades.

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Shayanomer
  • At least one image can be added to the article, specifically the 61st's logo. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 10:29, October 11, 2020 (UTC)
    • Added the logo, not sure what else would really work as there's not many pictured things in Ajax's story. Ben sc01t (Hello there) 12:13, October 11, 2020 (UTC)
  • There is a new precedent to use one ref note for birth and death years (see Winshur Bratt). Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 18:54, October 17, 2020 (UTC)
    • What do you want me to do? He doesn't have a birth date. Ben sc01t (Hello there) 22:03, October 17, 2020 (UTC)
      • In this case, a single ref for both year and place of death, instead of two separate refs. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 06:29, October 18, 2020 (UTC)

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Belnar/Legends

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  1. Fan26 (Talk) 13:04, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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  • The info in the Xamar quote in the "Early member of the Republic" section is all sourced to that KOTOR issue despite there being a BBY date in that sentence. I only have the 2017 epic collection, so I don't know if cover information in other editions or the original comic somehow provide the date, but I don't think the date can be cited to the comic. Fan26 (Talk) 12:21, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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