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Jaden Korr

• Nominated by: QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 13:28, March 10, 2018 (UTC)
• Nomination comments: Unfortunately, I wasn't able to see the article through the nomination process the last time. However, I have put a lot of work into this and would really like to try nominating it again. I have made my best effort to address the outstanding objections from the last nom, as well as making overall adjustments to the article, mostly having to do with paragraph size.

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Infobox / intro

• Looking at the BTS and his appearance in Jedi Academy, I'm thinking that it would be best to leave off the circa 1 ABY birth date, unless there is more information backing this estimate up. From what is in the reference, all we have is one guy thinking that he appears to be about 40 in 41 ABY. Just because he appears to be forty, that doesn't mean that he actually is close to that age. He could be considerably older and just look younger. I'd still mention the age he appears in the P&T, but I don't think it is enough to specify a birth date from.
  • Age removed from infobox and bio. P&T slightly tweaked. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)

Biography - Disciples of Ragnos crisis

• Does the game identify the Falcon as a YT-1300 freighter or say that it was famous?
  • Sources provided for both. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
• Based on recent review of the R5 droid, does the game call the droid an R5 unit? If not, it will need additional sourcing.
  • Yes, it specifically calls it an "R5 droid." QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
• Does the game identify his fighter as a Z-95 Headhunter?
  • The game files for the ship refer to it as a Z-95. Also there exists a cheat code "spawn Z-95" that spawns Jaden's ship. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
• Do we know that the Blenjeel merchant ship was attacked by an Interdictor-class Star Destroyer. The article for the attack calls it an Immobilizer 418 cruiser, and the page for the Star Detroyer does not have Jedi Academy as an appearance.
  • The game refers to it as an "Interdictor cruiser." I'm not that great with starship designations, so I'm unsure which one it refers to. Any ideas? QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
    • Just taking a quick look through the sources for the two ships, I don't see the Star Destroyer referred to as a cruiser (which is generally a smaller class of vessel based on the Anaxes War College System). Both The New Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels and Starships of the Galaxy (Saga Edition) refer to the Immobilizer 418 as an Interdictor cruiser and other sources call it a Interdictor-class cruiser. I think it is pretty safe to say that Interdictor cruiser refers to the Immobilizer 418.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 17:58, October 20, 2018 (UTC)
      • OK, thanks for the heads-up. Ref note added. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 13:20, October 21, 2018 (UTC)
• Does the game provide the full name for the T-65 X-wing starfighter?
  • No. Ref added. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 16:38, October 13, 2018 (UTC)
• "The battle was challenging for Korr" How does the game present this information?
  • Mostly just game mechanics, nothing really IU that states so. Reworded. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 16:38, October 13, 2018 (UTC)
• Is the name "Dreadnaught-class heavy cruiser" used by the game?
  • It's called an "Imperial dreadnaught" in the game. I've constructed an external ref; take a look if it works. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
• Does the game identify the ship at Korriban as an Imperial II-class Star Destroyer. Sourcing something as an Imperial II-class ship is a little more difficult unless the source specifies it.
  • No, it doesn't. Ref added. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 16:38, October 13, 2018 (UTC)

Personality and Traits

• "He preferred to keep his hair short, but he had let his facial hair grow out by 41 ABY, and he styled it in a neatly trimmed goatee," As you sourced the 41 BBY date to another reference in the biography, I am assuming the same needs to be done here as well.
  • Addressed. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
• "Korr was struggling with doubt regarding his role in the Force." I am a little confused here, what does the image under eternal thinker have to do with this phrase?
  • I was struggling to find any relevant images to illustrate that section to be honest. The idea was that the picture was a symbol of the Force, and Jaden struggled with finding his role in the Force…yeah, whatever. Removed. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
• Under Other talents you have two straight references to Crosscurrent. Is one of them supposed to be something else or is it just a duplicate?
  • Should be fixed now. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)

Equipment

• Under this section you source 41 ABY to Crosscurrent which is inconsistent with how you sourced it earlier.
  • Addressed. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)

BTS - Character development

• "Korr was originally going to be called Atton Rand..." For this one, do we know that Atton Rand was going to be the name of the main character? He could have been Rosh Penin or somebody else unless we have something more than the Easter egg quote to back that up.
  • Removed that part and the quote. There's no actual official word on this, AFAIK. Only widespread fan assumption that he meant Jaden. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
• Why is reference 11 (it appears to be dating the Battle of Hoth) used as a source in the second paragraph of the Character development section.
  • Fixed. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
• For the second paragraph of the character development section, I don't believe the sources provided are sufficient to back up that entire paragraph.
  • I fail to see the issue here. Are you talking about the first part of the paragraph? Which discusses how he went unreferenced? Well, how do you source someone not appearing somewhere? QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
    • I think I misread what year the Fury novel was released and thought there were additional reference books that he appeared in before he was referenced.
• Does the Crosscurrent novel mention a January 26, 2010 release date? I suspect that this will need additional referencing.
  • Done. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 16:38, October 13, 2018 (UTC)

BTS - Character customization and appearance

• "The first information on Korr's identity came from the 2005 reference book The New Essential Chronology, which addressed Korr as a "he," invalidating all female options in the game." I don't think you want to have the Battle of Hoth date to reference this.
  • Fixed. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
• "Although it did not necessarily specify his species, it excluded Rodian and Kel Dor from consideration, as those species are naturally hairless, only leaving Human as a possibility." Unless the novel mentions that those species do not have hair, you will need to source that to something else.
  • Source added. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
• "such as the goatee that Korr wore as of 41 ABY" Is the 41 ABY date presented directly in the actual novel outside of any Del Rey timelines? If not, you will need to provided additional referencing.
  • Done. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)

BTS - Jedi Academy alternative ending

• "confirmed to be proper in future Legends material" This needs to be sourced to something other than the game.
  • Addressed. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)

BTS - Errors and contradictions

• "although Riptide does establish that Korr's appearances post-41 ABY are in the Iteration's body" Is the 41 ABY date presented directly in the actual novel outside of any Del Rey timelines? If not, you will need to provided additional referencing.
  • Addressed. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
• "This is incorrect, as the character does indeed appear in the latter novel." This cannot be sourced to the ERC.
  • Addressed. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
• There is some sort of error with reference 51.
  • Fixed. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
• "Through Khedryn Faal's estimation, Crosscurrent gives Korr's approximate age during the events of the novel as forty years old, which would put him at thirteen years old during the events of Jedi Academy, set in 14 ABY." Per what I said above, I don't think this an inconsistency as much as it is an incorrect estimation of his age.
  • Removed that part. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
• "In Crosscurrent, Korr laments distancing himself from Valin Horn, indicating some sort of relationship between the two. After the publication of the novel, when asked what their relationship was, Kemp said that he could not reveal it yet." I don't think the referenced forum post is the correct one as I do not see any mention of Valin Horn.
  • Correct post cited now. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
• "Riptide states that Korr entered the Jedi Praxeum nine years after the death of Emperor Palpatine, which occurred in 4 ABY, according to The New Essential Chronology." I would reference the first part of this sentence to Crosscurrent and then change then move the source into a reference. There really isn't any reason to include the source in the paragraph itself.
  • Addressed. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
• "However, the events of the Jedi Academy video game are actually dated to to 14 ABY, ten years after the Emperor's death, by The New Essential Chronology." This can't be sourced to Crosscurrent.
  • Addressed. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)

BTS - Ambiguous information

• "Paul S. Kemp has stated that he intended Zeerid Korr, a character from The Old Republic: Deceived, his other novel set thousands of years before the events of Jedi Academy, to have been an ancestor of Jaden, however no Legends source confirmed that the two were indeed related." This cannot all be sourced to the tweet.
  • Addressed. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
• "Several times in Riptide, and even in certain parts of Crosscurrent before that, Kemp seemingly hints at the possibility of Korr himself being a part of Thrawn's cloning program, planted on Coruscant as a sleeper agent in his youth." As you reference Riptide and Crosscurrent, you cannot just source the entire sentence to Crosscurrent.
  • Addressed. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 08:56, October 12, 2018 (UTC)

BTS - Canceled content

• I'm not really seeing the point of including the Legends image in the BTS.
  • Removed. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:27, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
• Could you add a quote to the Canceled content section? There appears to be one in the referenced interview that you can use.
  • Added. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 08:56, October 12, 2018 (UTC)
• I will give the article another pass once you look through these.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 00:36, October 11, 2018 (UTC)

Wave 2

• Under Answering a distress call: The CSWE entry for Blenjeel mentions Korr's mission to the planet. Please adjust the game mechanics templates / BTS as needed.
  • Addressed. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:37, October 21, 2018 (UTC)
• Under Hostage rescue: The CSWE entry for Nar Kreeta mentions Korr rescuing the elders on Nar Kreeta. Please adjust the game mechanics templates / BTS as needed.
  • Addressed. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:37, October 21, 2018 (UTC)
• Under Apprehending Lannik Racto: The CSWE entry for Rax Joris references Korr's capture, which means that Korr went to Dosunn. Please adjust the game mechanics templates / BTS as needed.
  • Addressed. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:37, October 21, 2018 (UTC)
• Based on the Blenjeel, Nar Kreeta and Rax Joris entries, could you check to see if any likely related entries reference Korr going to any of the planets? You might be able to confirm more missions as official.
  • In addition to those, I've only been able to confirm the capture of Lannik Racto, based on his respective entry. None of the other optional missions are referenced in the CSWE, as far as I can tell. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 18:37, October 21, 2018 (UTC)
• Under The fallen apprentice: "During the fight, the twins kept empowering Penin with life energy and augmenting his dark side abilities." Empowering Penin with life energy sounds a little too much like game mechanics. Does this mean that they were healing him? This could use to the be reworded.
  • Done. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 13:42, October 22, 2018 (UTC)
• Under Tomb of the Barsen'thor: "learning the third and final of the combat styles practiced by the New Jedi Order." You provided another reference for learning the last two styles when you mentioned it in the Power and abilities section.
  • Fixed. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 13:42, October 22, 2018 (UTC)
• Under Battle at the Krabbis Inn: "As the Solos prepared to leave with the sick Jedi, Korr and Arelis agreed to stay behind and cover up the mess before the Galactic Alliance Security, claiming that the Solos were never there during the fight and lying that they did not know how the Mandalorian with the intact armor had died, in order to hide the fact that the psychotic Jedi possessed such powerful abilities." This sentence is too long and needs to be broken up.
  • Reworded. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 13:42, October 22, 2018 (UTC)
• Under Moral Compass: "Korr always strove to uphold his orders, and he was ashamed that he had disobeyed Hamner's instructions by letting the Solos pass into the Council chambers, but he expected the couple to find a way to gain entrance anyway, and he felt that the Council deserved to listen to what they had to say." This sentence is too long and could use to be broken up.
  • Reworded. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 13:42, October 22, 2018 (UTC)
• Under Telekinesis, Force speed and jump: "Throughout his lifetime, Korr may have also learned Force powers ranging from Force protection, Force healing, and Force absorb to Force drain, Force rage, and Force choke." I know these are possible powers that can be chosen in the game, but the way this is being included here is speculation. I would either reword this to be less speculative or move this information to the BTS.
  • I do not really see a way to word this in a way to both preserve the ambiguity and not make it sound speculative. Moved that part to the Bts. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 13:42, October 22, 2018 (UTC)
• Under Dark side powers: "However, after reaching the end of his vision quest, Korr accepted what his Master had been trying to tell him all along, and he knew that he would never fall to the dark side as he knew it too well, feeling secure that he would now always have control of his powers and would never subconsciously summon lightning from his fingers." This sentence is a little long and rambling. Could you break it up / restructure it?
  • Split up into several sentences. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 13:42, October 22, 2018 (UTC)
• Under Lightsaber mastery: "Korr was highly skilled with a lightsaber, echoing his master's swordsmanship. At first, he utilized the medium style but eventually mastered both the fast and strong styles." I think reference 40 is all that is needed to source the last part about the styles. Could you move reference 5 to just source the first sentence?
  • Done. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 13:42, October 22, 2018 (UTC)
• Under A Skillful Combatant: You have most of this section sourced to both the game and the strategy guide. If there are specific portions that need to be sourced to the guide, can you source those specific parts to the guide and source the rest to the game?
  • Done. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 13:42, October 22, 2018 (UTC)
• There is an "Exceptional Jedi Apprentice" in Jedi Academy (Star Wars Miniatures) that has a similar appearance to Jaden Korr. The piece gives him a yellow double-bladed lightsaber, which is kind of inconsistent. (It was a fairly common practice in the miniature game to have pieces that resembled characters that were named elsewhere.) Could you give a brief reference to think in the BTS?--Exiled Jedi (talk) 17:58, October 20, 2018 (UTC)
  • Added it into the "Ambiguous information" section. Seems like it fits best there. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 06:59, October 23, 2018 (UTC)

Wave 3

• Does Riptide refer to Coruscant as the galactic capital?
  • No, it doesn't. Ref note added. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 13:31, November 17, 2018 (UTC)
• "Purchasing a Flare-S swoop to make his way to the outpost" Does the source refer to it as a Flare-S swoop?
  • Same as above. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 13:31, November 17, 2018 (UTC)
• "Korr's subsequent portrayal in Crosscurrent and Riptide reaffirmed the description outlined in Abyss, explicitly stating that Korr was a Human and expanding on more details of his appearance, such as the goatee that Korr wore as of 41 ABY, which Kemp wrote in as a homage to Katarn, signifying the fact that Korr leaned heavily on his Master's teachings during his crisis of faith." This sentence could use to be reworded / broken up.
  • Addressed. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 13:31, November 17, 2018 (UTC)
• "The other customizable feature in Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy is the possibility to choose the hilt variation and the blade color of Korr's lightsaber at the beginning of the game and the option to build a new saber, two new lightsabers or a double-bladed one after the mission to Vjun, with in-game dialogue stating that Korr's first lightsaber was destroyed on Vjun." This sentence could use to be reworded / broken up.
  • Addressed. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 13:31, November 17, 2018 (UTC)
• "In Crosscurrent, the clone Alpha casts a "knowing look" at Korr and calls him "one of us," referring to the Community of clones, and the early chapters of Riptide feature a scene set on the Sith world of Korriban, in which Sith Lord Darth Wyyrlok and the Umbaran Nyss Nenn see a recording of Korr's fight with Alpha on the frozen moon." This sentence could use to be restructured / broken up.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 23:39, November 10, 2018 (UTC)
  • Addressed. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 13:31, November 17, 2018 (UTC)
    • It has become known to me that the INQ have somewhat refined their stance on "special refs" used to source starship classes. It seems like in many cases, those refs are no longer needed, as those classes fall under the duck test clause. Personally, I do agree with this line of thinking; I'd always thought that's how it should work. EJ, I'd like to ask you to take a look at your previous objections regarding those issues and tell me whether you think those refs I added are still necessary. I'm always open to an IRC discussion if we'll have conflicting opinions on the matter. Thank you, QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 09:48, February 20, 2019 (UTC)
• With the above comment, I think that the following can probably use the duck test:
  • Objection(s) overridden by Inquisitorius 20:44, April 16, 2019 (UTC)
  • T-65 X-wing starfighter
  • Dreadnaught-class heavy cruiser
  • Flare-S Swoop
• I think the others probably need the references because they aren't as easy to duck test.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 02:16, March 15, 2019 (UTC)
  • Objection(s) overridden by Inquisitorius 20:44, April 16, 2019 (UTC)
  • Adjusted accordingly. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 15:57, March 24, 2019 (UTC)

Imp

• You're missing backup link(s). Imperators II^(Talk) 13:55, October 28, 2018 (UTC)
  • Fixed. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 14:48, October 28, 2018 (UTC)

Toprawa

• Reference 45 is broken.
  • Removed. That was a leftover from EJ's objections, one of the refs that we'd agreed upon being unnecessary. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 07:10, April 19, 2019 (UTC)
• Please format SW.com DB entry names correctly in the Sources list. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:39, April 15, 2019 (UTC)
  • Done. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 07:10, April 19, 2019 (UTC)
• Not mandatory, of course, but audio files would be nice. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:50, April 15, 2019 (UTC)
  • I'll look into that. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 07:10, April 19, 2019 (UTC)
• I'm trying to understand the meaning of what is in the infobox death field. He died on/in this Mother thing? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:33, May 10, 2019 (UTC)
  • Nevermind, I believe I understand this now. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:08, May 10, 2019 (UTC)
• If Essential Reader's Companion states explicitly that Jaden Korr dies aboard Mother in 41 ABY and that his consciousness is transferred into the Iteration clone body, which it certainly appears to, the manual ref note in reference 2 is unnecessary. You can just source that straight to ERC without further elaboration. And it would appear you can then use that same reference for everything in the infobox's species field. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:08, May 10, 2019 (UTC)
  • Done. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 17:22, May 12, 2019 (UTC)

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The Barsen'thor

• Nominated by: QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 11:57, March 13, 2018 (UTC)
• Nomination comments: Because I don't like leaving things unfinished.

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Added it to Wookieepedia:WookieeProject The Old Republic's FAN section. Good work. Fan26 (Talk) 18:46, October 4, 2018 (UTC)

1. Fan26 (Talk) 16:18, December 1, 2018 (UTC)

Object

Fan

• No clue how this made it almost seven months without any objections or support votes. But I digress. At the bottom of the page, under I believe either "Skills and Abilities" or "Personality and traits", the following appears: "In addition to speaking Galactic Basic Standard, the Barsen'thor was versed in many languages of the galaxy. He could understand Dosh,[2] Gand,[23] Binary,[30] Nikto[37] Jawaese,[42] Shyriiwook,[51] Sullustese, Selkath,[59] Rakata[75] Esh-kha[77] and Mandaba.[89] In addition, the Barsen'thor was a skilled pilot, successfully performing many flight missions for the Coruscant Aegis under the callsign "Guardian."[4]" Does the instance of him speaking Sullestese and Selkath occur in the same scenario, therefore both are sourced to ref 59? Fan26 (Talk) 02:16, October 4, 2018 (UTC)
  • Correct, those two languages are featured in the same mission, hence why they are grouped under a single ref. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 06:19, October 4, 2018 (UTC)
• "Around that time, a sickness known as the Dark Plague struck the Jedi Order once again, driving Jedi Masters across the galaxy insane" This might just be my feeling, but the way the sentence is phrased is like the Dark Plague was mentioned elsewhere in the article, though this is the first mention of it. Would you consider revising the sentence?
  • Fixed. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 14:42, October 4, 2018 (UTC)
• "The Jedi Master was still missing five years later when an alliance of various factions was formed against the Eternal Empire." Do you think the word "against" should link to Revolt against the Eternal Empire? Fan26 (Talk) 14:23, October 4, 2018 (UTC)
  • Sure. Done. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 14:42, October 4, 2018 (UTC)
• " The Children were unwitting deep-cover agents of the Empire who shared a Force connection with the leader of the Empire, the allegedly immortal Sith Emperor Vitiate himself. " I think "unwitting" should actually be "unwilling".
  • Unwitting: adj. Not knowing; unaware: an unwitting subject in an experiment. I think it better describes their position, don't you think? QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 16:35, October 4, 2018 (UTC)
    • Good point.
• In the "Disappearance and Death" section, the tomb's caption reads "Barsen'thor's tomb on Chandrila". I think "The" should be added to the beginning of it, since it's a title and not a name. Fan26 (Talk) 14:51, October 4, 2018 (UTC)
  • Added. If you see such minor mistakes, you are more than welcome to fix them yourself. You don't have to ask the nominator's permission every time :) QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 16:35, October 4, 2018 (UTC)
  • That's good to know, thank you. Those were the last things I saw.Fan26 (Talk) 18:46, October 4, 2018 (UTC)
• I realized that since the character was confirmed to be male, we know which voice it canonically has. Would it be possible to get audio for the quotes where 'he' speaks? Fan26 (Talk) 16:46, November 29, 2018 (UTC)
  • I'll see what I can do, though having audio files is not a requirement for status articles, merely a recommendation. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 09:12, November 30, 2018 (UTC)
    • I'm aware, it was just an afterthought. I'm going ahead and striking this-no reason to hold up the nom with this one thing. Fan26 (Talk) 16:17, December 1, 2018 (UTC)

Ecks Dee

• The LG places {{otheruses}} above any header templates.
  • Moved. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 08:27, October 8, 2018 (UTC)
• I understand you want to avoid repetition and vary between usages of Barsen'thor/the Jedi/the Consular, but it gets somewhat confusing in some parts of the intro as I'm not 100% sure to what something is referring. Example: "Learning an ancient Force ability called the shielding technique from the Noetikon devices, the Jedi traveled from planet to planet, using the technique to sever the sick Jedi Masters from the influence of Lord Vivicar, the Sith mastermind behind the plague." Seeing as you talk about Jedi Masters in the previous sentence, it's not inconceivable that "the Jedi traveled" refers to the Masters rather Barsen'thor.
  • Made some adjustments. Please take another look. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 08:27, October 8, 2018 (UTC)
• "the Barsen'thor participated in the fight against the Children of the Emperor." Is there/should there be an article for this particular fight/crisis/whatever?
  • Linked. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 08:27, October 8, 2018 (UTC)
• "The Children were unwitting deep-cover agents of the Empire who shared a Force connection with the leader of the Empire, the allegedly immortal Sith Emperor Vitiate himself. The Children had infiltrated deep within the ranks of the Republic, their presence masked by the power of the mysterious First Son." I feel like dedicating two whole sentences to context is a bit excessive when it comes to the intro. See if you could condense this a bit. 1358 ^(Talk) 21:36, October 7, 2018 (UTC)
  • Done. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 08:27, October 8, 2018 (UTC)
• I made some further tweaks in the intro, particularly trimming some context I found excessive. Please have a look and see if that's okay.
  • Looks good. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 07:54, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
• "During the Battle of Corellia, the Consular discovered that the First Son was in fact a sleeper persona implanted inside Jedi Master Syo Bakarn" I feel like it's a bit misleading to link Sleep/Legends here, as sleeper agents don't really have anything to do with the act of sleeping.
  • I might have gotten a little carried away while trying to improve overall linking in the article. Removed. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 07:54, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
• Seeing as we know the exact dates for the resurgence of the Sith Empire and the Cold War, I think it'd be a good idea to put these in the early bio to establish some sort of timeframe for the reader.
  • Added. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 07:54, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
• Before I start with the rest of the bio, please keep the location of {{Main}} consistent. Right now it's below the quote template in some places and above in others. I don't think we have any policy on this, but personally I think it looks better placed above the quote template (think of it as a header template of sorts). 1358 ^(Talk) 19:13, October 9, 2018 (UTC)
  • Done. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 07:54, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
• Arrival: The paragraph that starts with "Par told the apprentice the information..." barely mentions the Barsen'thor and it feels like it's too much context. See if you can trim it some. 1358 ^(Talk) 17:59, December 8, 2018 (UTC)
  • Reworded to focus a bit more on the Barsen'thor. I don't think that the context in this paragraph can be completely cut, though. It's all kinda necessary, IMO. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 19:54, December 15, 2018 (UTC)
• Defending the Forge: "the Consular deeply concentrated and used the machine to create a working lightsaber. Upon creating the lightsaber, he barely had time to test it before Raloch appeared" This feels a bit redundant, with the double mention of the lightsaber creation in close succession. 1358 ^(Talk) 19:47, April 26, 2019 (UTC)
  • Reworded. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 13:01, April 30, 2019 (UTC)

Imp

• Would it be possible to obtain more images? Some of the sections and subsections can look pretty intimidating for the reader. If further subsectioning is possible, that would help, too. Imperators II^(Talk) 12:35, May 18, 2019 (UTC)

Comments

• Issues from the previous nomination have been addressed. Paragraph size has been significantly reduced, and some long sections have been split up. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 11:57, March 13, 2018 (UTC)

Zsinj (Redux review)

• Redux comments: Article was Reduxed per INQ 102 due to large changes.
• Date added: May 5, 2019

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Exiled Jedi

• There are some fairly large paragraphs that should be broken up. The first paragraph in the intro and the second paragraph in Zsinj's rank and uniform especially stand out.
  • This is a purely subjective criticism, and I don't see a problem with the way it is now, so honestly, at this point I really wish people who want the paragraphs broken up would just break them up themselves. -- Darth Culator ^(Talk) 12:33, May 10, 2019 (UTC)
  • It has been brought to my attention that my effort to suppress my natural tendency toward assholery has been inadequate, but I wanted to take some time to think before I attempted to clarify this. First, you may note that at the same time I posted this, I also posted below noting that a redux review was a good idea. I appreciate the leniency I have been granted and the opportunity to improve my work. However, this objection has been the most frustrating one for me because I honestly see no issue with the layout of the article as it stands. As far as I can see, it looks fine in both the full version and in FANDOM's annoying little javascript preview window, and I feel that splitting up the paragraphs any further would just be an effort to cater to the short attentions spans of users who belong on one of FANDOM's other fine sites and not Wookieepedia. My previous message was literally an invitation to other users to collaborate on this objection, and I apologize if my tone caused it to be taken differently. I have no {{inuse}} tag on this article, and Inquisitors have advocated the {{sofixit}} rule in the past, so this seemed like a logical idea. However, if this is unacceptable, then I ask that you please list all the paragraphs with which you take issue so I may implement the mutilation of the article in one fell swoop and not prolong the agony. Thank you. -- Darth Culator ^(Talk) 13:33, May 12, 2019 (UTC)
• You mention all of the equipment from Cracken's Threat Dossier, but there are other items listed in Rebellion Era Sourcebook that are not mentioned.
  • Added. -- Darth Culator ^(Talk) 12:33, May 10, 2019 (UTC)
• There appear to be some relevant skills in Zsinj's entry from Cracken's Threat Dossier that are not referenced in the article.
• Cracken's Threat Dossier mentions that he cannot lie convincingly despite years of practice. This should be in the P&T.
  • I'm going to have to finesse this one a bit, since his appearances in the Wraith Squadron books are nothing but lying. 😐 -- Darth Culator ^(Talk) 12:33, May 10, 2019 (UTC)
• Are there any quotes that can be added to the BTS? I see that there is an archived page where Allston discusses his novels.
• Looking at Allston's FAQ, it looks like some information could probably be added to the BTS.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 03:16, May 6, 2019 (UTC)

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• So Redux is still a thing? Probably a good idea. -- Darth Culator ^(Talk) 12:33, May 10, 2019 (UTC)

Squalls

• Nominated by: Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 06:05, May 19, 2019 (UTC)
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Toprawa

• I'd like you to consider changing the two Bio images:
  • Firstly, is this shot from the film? I'm not sure, as it might be a production photo printed in a book or something. If it is from the film and we can get a nice Blu-ray capture of it, I think that would be better for the first subsection, since you can see the commandos a little clearer.
  • Secondly, for the second subsection, I think the article would do better to use that shot where they're first entering the bunker at the top of the stairs. Even if we can't actually confirm Squalls is in that shot, it corresponds to his role much more closely than the image currently being used. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:13, May 20, 2019 (UTC)

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