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R4-K5

  • Nominated by: OtterSurf (talk) 18:19, July 17, 2019 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Been meaning to promote this little guy for a while now.

(0 ACs/1 Users/1 Total)

Support

  1. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 10:08, July 29, 2019 (UTC)

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QGJ
  • Is there a way to get a wider crop of the infobox image, so that it fully fits the infobox?
    • I never really liked that image quite frankly. It looks shabby. There's a few images on the Hasbro site that would do a better job so I might upload a new one. OtterSurf (talk) 11:25, July 18, 2019 (UTC)
    • Found a new image. Does the job. OtterSurf (talk) 13:09, July 18, 2019 (UTC)
  • 19 BBY date in the first sentence cannot be sourced directly to Revenge of the Sith
    • The Knightfall article does just that, so I'd be willing to contest it. OtterSurf (talk) 11:23, July 18, 2019 (UTC)
      • The Knightfall article also gained its status in 2010, when our standards for referencing dates were not as strict. I'm sure it will eventually be probed by the AC, one of the reasons being the lack of proper date refs. It's just simple fact that the term "19 BBY" is never used in the film itself, therefore, according to current GA standards, it requires an external source. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 14:32, July 18, 2019 (UTC)
  • You don't have to pipelink this entire passage to Operation: Knightfall. Just linking the word "ransacked" would be sufficient. "ransacked the Jedi Temple and killed most of the Jedi in residence"
  • You have successive duplicate refs [2] in the first paragraph of the bio, and refs [1] in the second paragraph.
    • Fixed. Ref 2 is now Ref 3. I broke up the two uses but I don't think I can structure the paragraph properly without using it twice. OtterSurf (talk) 11:22, July 18, 2019 (UTC)
    • Ref 3 is now Ref 4. OtterSurf (talk) 14:35, July 18, 2019 (UTC)
  • You are missing info from the databank entry, such as manufacturer and height. Using external sources, you can perhaps fill out additional parameters in the infobox, for example, the droid's degree. Please look at other Legends astromech GAs, for example R3-T2
  • Overall, the bio seems to be written from Vader's POV, instead of the droid's. For instance, the first paragraph should first establish that R4-K5 was stationed at the Jedi Temple in 19 BBY, before talking about Vader's attack. This sentence: "Vader would later choose the R4 unit as his new astromech" is better reworded to passive voice: "The R4 unit was later chosen by Vader as his new astromech"
  • Characteristics section needs to be added.
  • Please add publishing dates in the Bts. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 07:32, July 18, 2019 (UTC)
  • Sensor color is now infobox-exclusive.
  • The databank entry does not state this anywhere. Therefore, this part needs a manual ref note, mentioning other source(s) from which this info is drawn. As with other R4-numbered astromechs used by the Jedi Order during the Clone Wars, R4-K5 featured an R2-series dome
    • I'll look for a definitive source. 'Til then, I'll just remove it. OtterSurf (talk) 10:21, July 19, 2019 (UTC)
    • Done. OtterSurf (talk) 18:26, July 19, 2019 (UTC)
  • Non-canon information from Star Wars: Visions of the Blade needs to be detailed in the Bts. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 09:27, July 19, 2019 (UTC)
    • Done. OtterSurf (talk) 10:21, July 19, 2019 (UTC)
      • "Detailed" means that his role in the story needs to be described with the same level of detail that you would do for a biography, with the only exception being that it should be in present tense. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 14:57, July 19, 2019 (UTC)
        • R4-K5 appears in one frame of the comic. OtterSurf (talk) 17:11, July 19, 2019 (UTC)
          • You can still describe his role in the story from that one frame. R4-K5 appears in the non-canon comic Star Wars: Visions of the Blade, where he accompanies Vader during yadayadayada... QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 07:15, July 22, 2019 (UTC)
  • This sentence is unneccessary, as it just repeats info from the "appearances" list. R4-K5 also featured in the fourth installment of the 2014 comic arc Star Wars: Darth Vader and the Cry of Shadows.
  • Speaking about the "Cry of Shadows," you can definetely expand upon the details of the battle a bit.
  • 17 BBY date cannot be sourced directly to that comic and needs an additional source.
    • There isn't one. OtterSurf (talk) 09:57, July 24, 2019 (UTC)
    • The comic dates the Shrouded Offensive to a few months after Revenge of the Sith. I've noted it as 'months later', after Knightfall and Murkhana. OtterSurf (talk) 10:36, July 24, 2019 (UTC)
  • This image is of very poor quality. It's very pixelated and there are visible scanning artifacts present. This either needs to be replaced with a better version, or a different image altogether. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 08:50, July 24, 2019 (UTC)
  • Per WP:LG, External links is placed at the very end, after "Notes and references" QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 08:52, July 24, 2019 (UTC)
  • With the article now being sufficiently expanded, it now feels really weird not having any quotes at all. You can at least add the relevant author narration from "Dark Lord" describing "the black astromech" to the Bts. If you use some creativity, you can perhaps find relevant quotes for the in-universe portion of the article, even if there are none available that directly mention the droid. For example, we know that Vader chose R4-K5 to complement his own dark nature. Maybe add something about Vader reflecting on his own darkness and whip up a caption that ties this quote to the astromech. If you can't find anything, fine, but I encourage you to try. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 18:29, July 27, 2019 (UTC)
    • I've added some quotes. Vader never talks directly to R4-K5, so that's one major obstacle, but I've used ones that are most relevant. I doubt I'll be able to find anything else. OtterSurf (talk) 08:42, July 28, 2019 (UTC)
Anil
  • Category:Galactic Republic individuals and Category:Droids of the Galactic Empire should be added.
  • Why is Category:R4-series agromech droids added to the article and not mentioned in the article body? Are you sure it's an R4 unit?
  • Sources must be listed in order of publication/release date.
    • Fixed. OtterSurf (talk) 08:24, July 19, 2019 (UTC)
      • No, it isn't. Per the Layout Guide, "original Databank entries are to be listed as if their publication date was September 12, 2011 (the last day the Databank was online)." TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 03:57, July 20, 2019 (UTC)
        • Done. OtterSurf (talk) 08:39, July 20, 2019 (UTC)
          • As both Hasbro figures were released in 2006, I'd like you to show me a source/link for how you figured out which one of them was released first. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 10:52, July 20, 2019 (UTC)
            • According to Amazon, the fighter was released in late 2006: see here. Furthermore, according to this source, the figure was released in January 2007. OtterSurf (talk) 11:08, July 20, 2019 (UTC)
  • Encyclopedia entries must be presented exactly as the entry title does, such as "Sith starfighter, Darth Vader's."
    • The 19 BBY info came from a timeline on one of the intro pages, not an entry per se. OtterSurf (talk) 08:27, July 19, 2019 (UTC)
    • I've gone with the New Essential Chronology. OtterSurf (talk) 09:17, July 19, 2019 (UTC)
      • I have no idea what you are talking about here. My objection is about the formatting of the name of the old Databank entries, namely "Sith starfighter, Darth Vader's." TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 03:57, July 20, 2019 (UTC)
        • Oh, thought you meant the CSWE. Anyway, done. OtterSurf (talk) 08:40, July 20, 2019 (UTC)
  • I think it would be much easier to source that 19 BBY date directly to The New Essential Chronology.
    • If you're not happy with the explanation above, then that's cool. OtterSurf (talk) 08:27, July 19, 2019 (UTC)
    • Nevermind, done. OtterSurf (talk) 09:16, July 19, 2019 (UTC)
  • If The New Essential Chronology is where the droid was first pictured, {{1stp}} should be added.
  • The article could use one or two more images.
  • Darth Vader's black Eta-2 Actis-class interceptor lists more Appearances and Sources that this article. Have you checked them all for a possible appearance of the droid? TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 05:47, July 19, 2019 (UTC)
    • Added another appearance. That's pretty much it, though. OtterSurf (talk) 08:50, July 19, 2019 (UTC)
      • Are you sure about that? I only looked at the Hasbro link on that article, and again, are you sure that black astromech aboard Vader's starfighter isn't R4-K5? TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 03:57, July 20, 2019 (UTC)
        • It would be. I'll add it to the BTS. OtterSurf (talk) 09:00, July 20, 2019 (UTC)
          • Also, do you have an image of Vader's Sith fighter from Star Wars Galaxies? I didn't manage to find it myself, but as you told me that you've checked all the sources, I thought you might have one. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 12:22, July 20, 2019 (UTC)
            • I can't find any footage or pictures from Galaxies. Since it's not online anymore, and there's nothing I can find, I'd suggest we leave it. OtterSurf (talk) 16:24, July 20, 2019 (UTC)
            • Want proof? This is all I could find, and it might not even be Vader's interceptor. At any rate, the astromech isn't even shown. OtterSurf (talk) 12:13, July 22, 2019 (UTC)
  • I believe Vader's astromech in Darth Vader and the Lost Command 2 isn't detailed enough to decide if it's R4-K5 or not. I think you can mention this in BTS. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 12:22, July 20, 2019 (UTC)
  • Darth Vader's Sith starfighter's old Databank entry states that there was another Sith fighter toy, as part of the Star Wars Transformers toyline. Did you check it for a possible appearance of R4-K5?
    • Done. OtterSurf (talk) 19:05, July 31, 2019 (UTC)
      • You don't need to add that to BTS. You just need to add it to the Sources if the droid is present in that toy. Also, please use {{HasbroCite}} if it's part of a Hasbro toyline. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 00:17, August 1, 2019 (UTC)
        • It doesn't appear in the Hasbro database, so I had to use a third-party site. OtterSurf (talk) 08:29, August 1, 2019 (UTC)
          • You can incorporate external links into the Hasbro template the way I just did. Though you'll have to fill in the redlink for the toy set. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 14:53, August 1, 2019 (UTC)
            • Done. OtterSurf (talk) 17:44, August 1, 2019 (UTC)
              • Are you sure about its placement in the Sources, and that it was released after The Saga Collection one? TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 01:33, August 3, 2019 (UTC)
                • The release date only says 2006, and it would make sense for it to be released shortly after the original interceptor. OtterSurf (talk) 08:21, August 3, 2019 (UTC)
  • I think you could expand the intro a bit, it's quite short compared to the body right now. Maybe mentioning the events the droid participated in, and its relationship with Vader. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 15:47, July 29, 2019 (UTC)
  • "James Luceno describing R4-K5 in Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader." When I've first read this, I thought there is an out-of-universe section of the book where Luceno talks about the droid. But I now see that it's actually within the story, so I think I would suggest to change that caption to something like "An excerpt from Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader describing R4-K5."
  • I'd like to see Battle of Murkhana/Legends pipelinked somewhere in the article.
  • Could you please give time frames for the Battle of Murkhana and Shrouded Offensive, BBY dates if possible? TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 21:01, August 4, 2019 (UTC)
    • They all take place in 19 BBY. Dark Lord takes place shortly after EPIII and Cry of Shadows is set several months after. Both sources mention this. OtterSurf (talk) 21:08, August 4, 2019 (UTC)
      • Then could you add something like "not long after" or "within the same year" at the beginning of the Murkhana paragraph. And about Shrouded Offensive, are you sure about that? Its own article says it took place in 17 BBY. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 21:15, August 4, 2019 (UTC)
        • That's incorrect. The graphic novel states outright that it happens several months after ROTS. OtterSurf (talk) 21:17, August 4, 2019 (UTC)
        • Done. It's said from the POV of Shryne that Vader arrives at Murkhana about two weeks after the signal from the Temple is received. OtterSurf (talk) 21:20, August 4, 2019 (UTC)
  • Although it's a non-canonical event, you could also pipelink Battle of the Cowl Crucible and give a time frame for it.
    • Done. OtterSurf (talk) 07:32, August 5, 2019 (UTC)
      • Can 3 BBY be directly sourced to the comic itself? TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 21:33, August 5, 2019 (UTC)
        • No. It's not stated anywhere in the graphic novel and I can't find a source to back it up. Removed. OtterSurf (talk) 11:18, August 6, 2019 (UTC)
  • (Reviewing note) All images must have non-capitalized extensions, i.e. Vader's_astromech_R4-K5.jpg instead of Vader's_astromech_R4-K5.JPG. Also, all file names must have underscores (_) instead of spaces. I have taken care of these, but please keep these in mind for your future nominations. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 22:10, August 4, 2019 (UTC)
  • There are multiple infobox-exclusive information, which should also be mentioned in the article body. Please revise.
    • Done. OtterSurf (talk) 07:36, August 5, 2019 (UTC)
      • Galactic Republic is still infobox-exclusive. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 21:33, August 5, 2019 (UTC)
        • Fixed. OtterSurf (talk) 08:30, August 6, 2019 (UTC)
          • I am afraid not. The article should suggest that R4-K5 served/was affiliated with the Republic. It only says that the droid served during the final days of the Republic. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 00:56, August 7, 2019 (UTC)
  • Does The New Essential Guide to Droids explicitly say that R4-K5 was an R4-P-series astromech droid? If so, the book should be added to the Sources as well. If not, it looks like a speculation to me. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 01:41, August 5, 2019 (UTC)
    • No, but the EGD does state that the Jedi Order used R4 units with R2 domes after R4-P17 was a success. OtterSurf (talk) 07:26, August 5, 2019 (UTC)
      • I may be missing it, but on page 31, it only says that they were rebuilt with dome-heads, not necessarily R2 domes, even though they are visually the same. Also, the R4 unit must be linked in the article, the R4 unit info must be added to the infobox and the categories as well. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 21:33, August 5, 2019 (UTC)
        • Done. OtterSurf (talk) 08:35, August 6, 2019 (UTC)
          • Please remember to remove redundant categories after adding a new one, which is already a subcategory of existing categories. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 00:56, August 7, 2019 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • Some preliminaries:
    • The infobox image doesn't need to be any larger than 400x400 px. Otherwise it's just making the droid look smaller in the template. I would suggest asking Culator to crop it down for you.
    • The infobox image also needs to be referenced correctly, which includes adding an archive link.
      • Will do. OtterSurf (talk) 08:36, August 17, 2019 (UTC)
      • How do I do that exactly? OtterSurf (talk) 09:02, August 17, 2019 (UTC)
        • You need to use the {{Cite web}} template. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:39, August 17, 2019 (UTC)
          • In Sources, References, or the image page itself? OtterSurf (talk) 18:44, August 17, 2019 (UTC)
            • Images are sourced on the file pages themselves. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:45, August 17, 2019 (UTC)
              • Wookieepedia seems to be having a problem. Whenever I try to save the page I'm getting a 500 error message. OtterSurf (talk) 19:06, August 17, 2019 (UTC)
                • You're running into an ongoing Wikia error. You will not be able to adjust the sourcing in this image file, which is one reason why it's important to source images correctly upon initial upload. You should compile your Cite web template on a subpage and show it to Culator. He can then use it to upload the new cropped version of this file. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:21, August 17, 2019 (UTC)
                  • I've never done that before. How would I go about it? OtterSurf (talk) 19:30, August 17, 2019 (UTC)
                    • I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but I'm not going to hold your hand through every step of the process. You need to learn how to do some things yourself. All of the instructions for how to use the Cite web template are on the template page, which I have linked for you. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:33, August 17, 2019 (UTC)
                      • For the record, I was referring to creating a subpage, not the Cite web template which I am familiar with. OtterSurf (talk) 19:41, August 17, 2019 (UTC)
                        • You can create your subpage at "User:OtterSurf/Subpage" or whatever you want to call it. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:46, August 17, 2019 (UTC)
                          • Great. Thanks. OtterSurf (talk) 19:51, August 17, 2019 (UTC)
                          • Done. Hopefully we'll hear from him soon. OtterSurf (talk) 19:59, August 17, 2019 (UTC)
    • A four-paragraph Bio is always ripe for subsectioning. Two subsections of two paragraphs each looks much neater. This will allow for an additional quote if available. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:18, August 16, 2019 (UTC)
      • There are no quotes, but I'll compress them down. OtterSurf (talk) 08:36, August 17, 2019 (UTC)
      • Done. OtterSurf (talk) 08:46, August 17, 2019 (UTC)
  • The Biography quote doesn't appear to have any direct relevance to R4-K5. I suggest removing it. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 05:15, August 18, 2019 (UTC)
  • According to the links you're using in the article, the three Hasbro toys were released, in the order you have them listed in the Sources list, in 2006, December 2006, and 2006. So what is your rationale for listing them in the order you have? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:09, August 19, 2019 (UTC)
    • I haven't been able to get a definitive release schedule from various sites listing the products, most of which use conflicting dates, so I've used my best judgment. OtterSurf (talk) 20:12, August 19, 2019 (UTC)
      • Have you checked Jedi Temple Archives? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:18, August 19, 2019 (UTC)
        • Yup. It lists the Eta-2 as a 2007 release, so that's one mystery down. It still lists R4-K5 as 2006 and has no entry for the Transformer. OtterSurf (talk) 20:22, August 19, 2019 (UTC)
          • No, you hadn't checked Jedi Temple Archives. Otherwise you would have had it listed correctly in the first place. You have a really bad habit of saying you've checked sources when truthfully you didn't. You need to work on that. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:27, August 19, 2019 (UTC)
            • Think I chose my words badly there. Instead of "Yup", I should've written "I just have". OtterSurf (talk) 20:53, August 19, 2019 (UTC)
  • There isn't any real connection to R4-K5 here other than the indirect suggestion that he served a Jedi pilot and that the Jedi hangar, where pilots sometimes are, was destroyed. I would suggest removing this: "The Temple's hangar was one of the areas raided, and much of its equipment was destroyed." Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:59, August 19, 2019 (UTC)
    • Done. Logical, since R4-K5 never appears in the game. OtterSurf (talk) 21:04, August 19, 2019 (UTC)
  • Additional image issues:
    • The second Bio image is cropped weird, and its artificial black background isn't done very well at all. If you actually open up the image at full resolution, you can see where the original uploader missed a white dot near the top left and also where the black is poorly brushed in at the bottom left corner. I would suggest asking Culator again to go to the original source for that image and see if he can produce a better version for us. As a secondary issue to this image, it also needs to be sourced correctly with a backup link. All images must be fully sourced, per GAN rule 4. This is your responsibility to check this for any image you're using in your nominated article.
      • Again, I'll ask him. OtterSurf (talk) 11:37, August 20, 2019 (UTC)
      • If Culator hasn't got back to me soon, I'm thinking we should just remove the image, as it's making the article look scruffy. OtterSurf (talk) 11:05, August 25, 2019 (UTC)
        • There's really no getting around this. Ultimately, that section of the article needs to have an image for basic aesthetic value. And I don't see any other image from the sources that could really go there, though you're welcome to suggest alternatives. The image that's there now isn't bad by any means, its quality is just lacking because the uploader did a poor job. The technical requirements to clean it up are pretty basic. It just takes someone with the time and ability to do so. You're welcome to try yourself, though I recommend Culator since he's the best at this kind of stuff. You can try reminding him that you need his assistance. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:02, August 26, 2019 (UTC)
          • I've dropped Culator a quick reminder. OtterSurf (talk) 13:30, August 28, 2019 (UTC)
            • Then I'm just going to add that the impetus is on you to follow up on this objection in the allotted time. It's not Culator's responsibility to respond to you or mine or the AgriCorps' to make sure you're resolving it. If we don't get another update from you on this by September 7 (the allotted 10 days), this nomination will be eligible for inactive removal. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:55, August 30, 2019 (UTC)
            • Realistically, I can't make it much better. It's a Rebelscum original photo of an action figure box that's 13 years old, which is ancient in Internet terms. I'd really rather not put that much effort into a file that's so low-quality to begin with. You might want to pick a different image from the source. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 23:31, August 30, 2019 (UTC)
            • Never mind. Felt like playing with a new toy and you get to reap the benefits. :P -- Darth Culator (Talk) 00:46, August 31, 2019 (UTC)
              • Wonderful job, Culator! Thanks again. OtterSurf (talk) 12:24, August 31, 2019 (UTC)
    • Since the URL for the BTS image is no longer working and there doesn't appear to be an archived version of that page, I would recommend finding another image from an active webpage. Jedi Temple Archives offers plenty of solid alternatives. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:18, August 20, 2019 (UTC)
  • Infobox things:
    • The infobox is sourcing the droid's R4-series designation to the Saga Collection toy, but nothing on that card actually states this droid is an R4 model. You're presumably just going off the name of the droid. Do none of the other sources explicitly identify R4-K5 as an R4-series astromech droid?
      • Nope. I've removed it. See Anil's objections, though. OtterSurf (talk) 18:28, September 10, 2019 (UTC)
        • I don't know what you did, but you still have the category, and you haven't removed it from the article body either. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:37, September 10, 2019 (UTC)
          • Cock. I had previously removed it, but I accidentally scrubbed a Hasbro source and had to revert to a previous edit. It got left behind, but I have removed it now. OtterSurf (talk) 19:17, September 10, 2019 (UTC)
    • Given a choice between the Databank and the Saga Collection, I think it would be best to source everything possible to the Databank. R4-K5's sensor color is red, not black. And this can be sourced to the Databank.
      • Done what I can. OtterSurf (talk) 18:28, September 10, 2019 (UTC)
        • The Databank explicitly says he was affiliated with the Galactic Empire. It also refers to his service to the "Sith" starfighter. I doubt Dark Lord says these things, even if the context would be obvious. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:51, September 10, 2019 (UTC)
    • The droid has multiple plating colors, not just black.
    • Nothing from the Saga Collection says R4-K5 served the Jedi Order or the Galactic Republic. It simply says he was a "Jedi's droid." We know there are Jedi who live outside the purview of the Order and the Republic, so this would certainly be some unsupported extrapolation. I think it would be best to just list "Jedi" in the affiliation field while removing Galactic Republic. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:53, September 10, 2019 (UTC)
      • Done. OtterSurf (talk) 18:28, September 10, 2019 (UTC)
      • Now that I think about the first History section, there's no real evidence that 'Kayfive was even stationed at the Temple; I simply extrapolated. Should I take the wrecking ball to it? OtterSurf (talk) 18:33, September 10, 2019 (UTC)
      • Nevermind, it's been demolished and remodelled. OtterSurf (talk) 19:19, September 10, 2019 (UTC)
        • I asked you to list "Jedi" in the affiliations, not "A Jedi," even though that's what the source says. Because otherwise you're creating something of an incongruity here. If you're listing "A Jedi," why not list "Darth Vader," for example? If he's serving "a Jedi," he's still serving "the Jedi," if that makes sense, so I think it's best to just stick with "Jedi" to remain uniform with Order of the Sith Lords and Galactic Empire. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:49, September 10, 2019 (UTC)
  • Where is R4-K5 mentioned in the Sith starfighter Databank entry? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:40, September 10, 2019 (UTC)
    • No mention. Removed. OtterSurf (talk) 07:57, September 11, 2019 (UTC)
      • It does appear in the entry's image of the Sith starfighter, so the source should be restored with a Po. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 08:06, September 11, 2019 (UTC)
        • Tch. Completely went over my head. Done. OtterSurf (talk) 08:12, September 11, 2019 (UTC)
  • From the intro: "R4-K5 was an astromech droid originally assigned to a Jedi during the Clone Wars." No where does the text on the Saga Collection card support any part of this sentence. It merely says that R4-K5 "used to be a Jedi's droid," which could mean a lot of things. You will need to rewrite the intro and article body to avoid this extrapolation. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 04:06, September 16, 2019 (UTC)
Imp
  • Please implement {{Imagecat}}. Imperators II(Talk) 07:24, August 21, 2019 (UTC)
    • What's that? OtterSurf (talk) 09:20, August 21, 2019 (UTC)
      • It's a template for linking to an image category (which you should also create). Instructions for the template's usage are on its page. Imperators II(Talk) 09:31, August 21, 2019 (UTC)
        • Okay, but I'm still not clear on how it works. What information, for example, should I put in the template if, say, I placed it on the image page for the comic panel in this article? OtterSurf (talk) 10:04, August 21, 2019 (UTC)
        • Nevermind, figured it out. OtterSurf (talk) 10:08, August 21, 2019 (UTC)
          • Cool, just remember that when you create a category, you also have to add category(-ies) at the bottom of that category. Imperators II(Talk) 10:19, August 21, 2019 (UTC)
Tommy

Comments

  • Does anyone else think we need a canon equivalent article for the silver astromech that appears in Tarkin? OtterSurf (talk) 18:03, November 26, 2019 (UTC)


Leyli

  • Nominated by: OtterSurf (talk) 16:20, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: This particular Lady deserves some recognition.

(0 ACs/1 Users/1 Total)

Support

  1. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 09:23, November 12, 2019 (UTC)

Object

Imp
  • Full publication date for the comic, please. Imperators II(Talk) 17:19, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
    • Does the comic itself actually provide the full publication date? If not, you should use a source that does. Imperators II(Talk) 18:00, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
      • Dark Horse site. Is there a special citation? OtterSurf (talk) 18:32, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
        • Here is the category for all the Internet citation templates we have. I'd recommend Marvel, though, since they're the license holder for comics now and also have an entry for the comic. Imperators II(Talk) 18:48, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
          • Brilliant! Thanks. OtterSurf (talk) 19:03, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
            • Please reference accurately, nothing about Leyli herself in the BTS can be sourced to the Marvel site, just the date. Imperators II(Talk) 07:51, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
  • {{CSWECite}} should be implemented in the corresponding reference. Imperators II(Talk) 17:19, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
    • OtterSurf, if you're going to nominate articles for status, you need to familiarize yourself with our site's policies governing the composition of those articles. Please read what the Manual of Style has to say about the usage of {{CSWECite}}.Imperators II(Talk) 18:00, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
  • "Shortly after the Battle of Endor" doesn't necessarily correspond to 4 ABY. Please revise the wording. And please note that references should be written as if they were self-contained micro-articles themselves, so phrasing like "this year" or "after this" should be avoided. Imperators II(Talk) 17:19, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
  • Context for Rogue Squadron, Vader, Palpatine, Luke, Wedge, please. Imperators II(Talk) 17:19, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
  • Please link Weir to the Empire and the Empire's "defeat" to the Battle of Endor. Imperators II(Talk) 17:19, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
    • All sorted. OtterSurf (talk) 17:44, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
      • I think you should refer to the Empire as the Galactic Empire upon its first mention. Imperators II(Talk) 18:00, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
  • Please split up the first sentence of the article's body. As you're doing that, I suggest moving the specific time frame of a week after Endor to where you mention the Rogues' mission, and maybe just leave something general like "during the Galactic Civil War" for the lead sentence that describes Leyli's station. Imperators II(Talk) 07:51, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
  • Please name the writer of the comic in the BTS. Imperators II(Talk) 07:51, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
  • The Marvel link doesn't work. Imperators II(Talk) 07:51, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
    • It only works if I direct it to the main Rogue Leader page, so I've done that. OtterSurf (talk) 08:08, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
      • It also works if you direct it to the specific issue page, but you have failed to follow the instructions on the citation template's documentation page. Imperators II(Talk) 08:49, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
        • I've followed the instructions and it still won't work. OtterSurf (talk) 09:50, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
        • Nevermind, fixed. OtterSurf (talk) 09:55, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
          • Good. Now the backup link should also point to an archived version of the specific issue page. Imperators II(Talk) 09:56, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
  • The actual title of the Marvel product page should be presented in the template, as opposed to your own description. Imperators II(Talk) 07:51, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
Anil
  • Please follow the instructions in the Layout Guide for the article's sections. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 21:24, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
    • Uuuurrrgh. Fixed. OtterSurf (talk) 08:15, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
      • Isn't Leyli shown wearing any particular clothing? If so, that would warrant an Equipment section. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 10:58, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • After looking at the comic, I find the infobox image to be a poor crop. It unnecessarily cuts off part of her fur on the left side of the panel, presumably because the artist illustrated the character partially outside of the comic panel itself (you'll see what I mean if you look at the comic), so the original uploader thought it needed to be cut there, but it doesn't. The image would look much better without any portion being cut off. Please reupload with the appropriate cropping. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:59, September 30, 2019 (UTC)
    • Done. The image is a bit smaller, but it's the best I could get (I cropped from a hi-res source). OtterSurf (talk) 08:49, October 1, 2019 (UTC)
    • Nevermind, replaced with enlarged version. I used Bicubic Smooth to get the optimum result. OtterSurf (talk) 08:57, October 1, 2019 (UTC)
      • The new version you've uploaded is of remarkably lower resolution than the original. You need to reupload it in superior digital quality. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:52, October 1, 2019 (UTC)
        • I take it you mean from a digital copy of the comic? OtterSurf (talk) 20:29, October 1, 2019 (UTC)
          • GAN Rule 14: "...include a reasonable number of images of the highest quality to illustrate the article, as source availability permits." In 2019, you should never be uploading a comic image that doesn't come up from a digital version, except in the exceedingly rare cases where no digital version exists. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:31, October 1, 2019 (UTC)
            • Done! OtterSurf (talk) 17:26, October 3, 2019 (UTC)
            • I've chosen my fave pic of Leyli for the infobox. Just trying a little something. OtterSurf (talk) 17:38, October 3, 2019 (UTC)
              • Before we proceed, would you mind telling me where you found these digital images? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:20, October 5, 2019 (UTC)
                • Purchased the comic on Comixology. OtterSurf (talk) 18:26, October 5, 2019 (UTC)
  • Regarding the main image, it would look far less distracting if you whitened out the cut-off portion of whoever that is on the left edge of the picture. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:30, December 17, 2019 (UTC)
    • That's Luke Skywalker's hair. I can crop it out while just keeping all of Leyli in. That okay? OtterSurf (talk) 20:19, December 17, 2019 (UTC)
      • That's impossible, since some of Luke's hair overlaps on the same vertical plane as the left edge of Leyli, meaning you would be cropping part of her out with it. Not to mention the image would then be asymmetrical in terms of border space on each side of Leyli, which would be unsightly. What I explained in my objection is the only feasible course. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:22, December 17, 2019 (UTC)
        • I'll get on it ASAP. OtterSurf (talk) 20:43, December 17, 2019 (UTC)
        • Done. OtterSurf (talk) 21:25, December 17, 2019 (UTC)
          • Much better. Sorry to send you back in one more time (I just noticed this now), but you should also be able to very easily blacken out the pointing portion of the speech bubble at the bottom of the picture inside her collar area. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:28, December 17, 2019 (UTC)
  • For the main quote attribution, check the comic again—she's not speaking to Luke at that moment. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:20, December 20, 2019 (UTC)
    • How the hell did I miss that? Fixed. OtterSurf (talk) 08:24, December 20, 2019 (UTC)
      • I've modified the quotes in the article to how I believe they're most effective. It was easier to change them and display rather than try to explain all of that. You're welcome to comment, of course. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:43, December 30, 2019 (UTC)
  • It's quite a notable thing for CSWE to say that Leyli serves the "Queen of Tralus," considering that all other sources to deal with the subject of Selonian queens seem to suggest that there are multiple queens, namely one per den. For there to be one Queen of Tralus is significant, and it would be appropriate for us to devote an article for this queen. Therefore, you should create an article for the Queen of Tralus so that this article can link to it. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 04:52, January 1, 2020 (UTC)
Spooky
  • Add context for Tralus.
  • I see usage of pronouns throughout the article, but it doesn't appear explicitly say she is female within the article body.
  • "She expressed her fear of the Sith Lord Darth Vader and Galactic Emperor Palpatine; initially doubting Jedi Knight Luke Skywalker's reports of Vader's death and the Empire's defeat at Endor, she was convinced by his assurances and, to avoid fear and panic in the community, Leyli decided to keep her queen out of the loop until the Rebels had defeated Weir." - I feel like that's a rather run-on sentence, and could be split.
  • "traveled to Tralus in hot pursuit of Galactic Empire General Weir" I believe it would be better to say 'the Galactic Empire's General Weir' or 'Imperial General Weir', for grammar purposes.—spookywillowwtalk 21:51, October 2, 2019 (UTC)
QGJ
  • The date should be mentioned in the intro as well.
  • who had attacked nearby Corellia Do we have an article for that attack?
  • Leyli informed Skywalker and Rogue Squadron leader Wedge Antilles of the location of Weir's base, where he was holding Numb. So, she knew that a Rebel pilot was being held prisoner on her planet? I think it's important to establish this fact earlier in the bio.
  • The intro states that she "assisted" Rogue Squadron in locating a "hidden" Imperial base, which makes it sound as if she actively participated in the search for the base alongside the Rogues. Contrast this with the bio, in which her only contribution is telling them outright about the base. Also, the bio doesn't establish that the base was "hidden," so it leaves the impression that its existence was common knowledge.
  • Main image currently violates Site policy regarding speech bubbles. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 12:12, October 7, 2019 (UTC)
  • Leyli decided to keep her queen out of the loop. That is a rather colloquial expression, IMO. Can you reword this to sound more formal and encyclopedic?
  • The biography right now lacks any resolution to the conflict presented therein. I'd like to see one more sentence regarding Numb's final fate.
  • Leyli stood at a much taller height than Luke Skywalker and Wedge Antilles. I think it's feasible to list Luke's and Wedge's exact height here, based on other sources. The height field can also be added to the infobox, saying "Over X meters," with a ref note explaining how this info was derived.
  • When you list her attire in "Equipment," it's best to establish the exact timeframe when she wore those clothes. Right now, it sounds as if she wore the same dress all the time, which is quite unlikely. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 14:47, November 4, 2019 (UTC)
Zed
  • Aside from the panel borders/quality, I feel like the former infobox image was better than the new one. It shows Leyli from the front and isn't obstructed by a speech bubble. Zed42 (talk) 22:03, October 11, 2019 (UTC)
    • Sorry, I prefer the replacement. OtterSurf (talk) 08:08, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
      • To respond to this, since this was the same objection I was going to leave myself, I've talked with another AC member, and we agree that the original infobox image is best, for three reasons: 1) It shows her face head-on; 2) There are no distracting speech bubbles in the middle of her head; and 3) It actually shows her entire head and face, not cut off by the comic panel. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:46, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
        • I strongly disagree with this decision and I think my preferred infobox image is much better. Nevertheless, seeing as moaning about it is going to get me nowhere on the issue, I have complied. OtterSurf (talk) 20:07, October 18, 2019 (UTC)

Comments

Battle of Birgis

  • Nominated by:OtterSurf (talk) 14:00, October 10, 2019 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:

(0 ACs/1 Users/1 Total)

Support

  1. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 14:49, November 4, 2019 (UTC)

Object

Tommy
  • Do you have these sources?
    • Yes. Wouldn't have been able to write this much if I didn't. OtterSurf (talk) 14:13, October 10, 2019 (UTC)
  • Duplicate links. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 14:04, October 10, 2019 (UTC)
  • You need to change the galaxy link to Legends. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 16:08, October 11, 2019 (UTC)
Fan
  • In the first sentence of the body, you make it sound like the briefing itself is part of the arrangement, not the actual battle. Please reword. Fan26 (Talk) 14:08, October 10, 2019 (UTC)
    • I've added some subheadings as well. OtterSurf (talk) 14:24, October 10, 2019 (UTC)
      • The briefing typically belongs under a prelude section. Fan26 (Talk) 14:30, October 10, 2019 (UTC)
        • Fixed. OtterSurf (talk) 16:03, October 10, 2019 (UTC)
          • Now you've made it sound as if Fett's arrangement with the Vong included the blackmailing.Fan26 (Talk) 16:14, October 10, 2019 (UTC)
            • Fixed. OtterSurf (talk) 16:23, October 10, 2019 (UTC)
              • The first sentence of the body still makes no sense. You start by describing an agreement between two groups that are nominally allies, then move to the machinations of an agent of one of the groups without explaining what the agreement actually is. The next sentence describes an attack planned as part of the agreement, but it's confusing in the context of Anor's machinations. Please fix all this. Fan26 (Talk) 16:32, October 10, 2019 (UTC)
                • Done. OtterSurf (talk) 16:41, October 10, 2019 (UTC)
                  • "In return for sparing the Mandalore sector during the invasion, Anor coerced Fett into serving them" This still needs to be reworded. Anor is not coercing Fett so the Mandalore sector will be spared; Anor is promising to spare the sector in exchange for Fett's service, as I understand it. Fan26 (Talk) 14:08, October 11, 2019 (UTC)
                    • Done. OtterSurf (talk) 16:08, October 11, 2019 (UTC)
                      • Apologies it has taken so long to get back to this. Fan26 (Talk) 19:46, November 1, 2019 (UTC)
Anil
QGJ
  • A bunch of infobox-exclusive stuff:
    • Yuuzhan Vong empire is infobox-exclusive.
    • Boba Fett's rank of Mandalore is infobox-exclusive.
      • No, I pipelinked it. OtterSurf (talk) 19:55, October 19, 2019 (UTC)
        • Ok, my bad, I missed that. Still, I think it's better to establish that Fett and "the Mandalore" are the same person earlier on. Currently, the last sentence of "prelude" can be interpreted as talking about two different people. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 13:59, October 23, 2019 (UTC)
          • Done as best I can. OtterSurf (talk) 16:02, October 23, 2019 (UTC)
    • "Starfighters" and "Early warning craft" are also not mentioned as New Republic forces within the article text.
    • On that note, what are "early warning craft", anyway? Aren't they also starfighters or repulsorcraft, both of which you already have listed?
      • The term is used in the ebook, but I agree with your point. Removed. OtterSurf (talk) 19:55, October 19, 2019 (UTC)
        • Looking at the passage mentioning that term, I actually think that it's important to mention in the article that the Birgis authorities expected a Yuuzhan Vong assault, and were dispatching those early warning craft. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 13:59, October 23, 2019 (UTC)
    • Civilian casualties taken as slaves. The Yuuzhan Vong's intention to take slaves is discussed in the prelude, but you do not establish that they actually did take slaves in the aftermath.
      • Never actually confirmed, so removed. OtterSurf (talk) 19:55, October 19, 2019 (UTC)
  • Prelude: 25 ABY can't be sourced directly to the e-book.
    • The date is given shortly before the battle, and New Holgha occurs three months into the invasion, which would still be in 25 ABY, so yes it can. OtterSurf (talk) 19:59, October 19, 2019 (UTC)
    • To elaborate: the rendezvous takes place in 25 ABY, and the Birgis operation is five days after. OtterSurf (talk) 09:25, October 20, 2019 (UTC)
  • I believe that there is enough information about the unidentified pilot for an article to be created and linked to.
  • The article could use one more image, preferrably placed in "The battle" section.
  • The capitalization of the battle's name in the BTS implies that it's not a conjectural title.
  • Have you checked The Essential Reader's Companion? There might be a mention of the battle among the recap of A Practical Man. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 07:34, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
    • Didn't even realize that was an applicable source. In any case, I don't own that book so I can't check. OtterSurf (talk) 19:48, October 19, 2019 (UTC)
      • I've checked it myself; there's no mention. I do advise you to get a hold on that book if you plan on nominating subjects from Legends novels, since it pretty much covers the entirety of Legends books and is likely to contain mentions of many major plot points. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 13:59, October 23, 2019 (UTC)
        • Thanks! I'll look into it. OtterSurf (talk) 15:53, October 23, 2019 (UTC)

Comments

Wef

  • Nominated by: Shayanomer 19:27, December 11, 2019 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Waited until Target Vader finished its run to nominate this one. Hopefully, they don't appear in any comics coming in the near future.

(1 ACs/2 Users/3 Total)

Support

  1. Ben sc01t (talk) 16:44, December 17, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Zed42 (talk) 17:07, January 6, 2020 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Objections handled via IRC. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 10:12, January 20, 2020 (UTC)

Object

Ben
  • You should whiten out the speech bubbles in order to make them look less distracting in the images. Ben sc01t (talk) 16:21, December 17, 2019 (UTC)
    • Done. I left out the second image since it doesn't look too distracting and fits the context of the caption in my opinion, unless you would like that changed too. Shayanomer (talk) 16:39, December 17, 2019 (UTC)
      • No that's fine. Ben sc01t (talk) 16:43, December 17, 2019 (UTC)
        • If I may add, the image policy states that text in speech bubbles should be left in if the bubble is intact, which is true in this case. Zed42 (talk) 06:51, December 18, 2019 (UTC)
          • Now I'm uncertain of what to do here, I'll await an admin's word on this. Shayanomer (talk) 19:10, December 18, 2019 (UTC)
          • I have restored the text in the speech bubbles now. Shayanomer (talk) 07:28, December 23, 2019 (UTC)
Zed
  • Similar thing to Xonr regarding the usage of "they" and "their."
  • Valance needs context in the Biography.
  • I'm not sure if the Biography is long enough to have multiple subsections. Typically, that's done when each subsection has at least two paragraphs. Zed42 (talk) 19:26, December 31, 2019 (UTC)
  • The events of Valance's hunt can be dated more specifically to "by 3 ABY."
  • Could you provide context for why the Formidable visited the outpost?
  • You could probably briefly mention the merchandise Wef intended to sell in the Equipment section.
  • Wef has enough dialogue to add quotes to the Personality and traits and Equipment sections. Zed42 (talk) 15:28, January 6, 2020 (UTC)
  • You should expand the part about Wef working for the Hidden Hand. It's mentioned that Wef's business improved after accepting the deal, and you could also mention that Wef met a number of different Hidden Hand go-betweens.
  • Since Wef was contacted by the Rebellion before the bounty hunters arrived, that should be written from Wef's point of view and placed earlier.
  • There's already an image category for Wef, so it can be added to the page. Zed42 ([[User talk:Zed42|talk]h]) 16:35, January 6, 2020 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • In this instance, it's unnecessary for the main infobox image to crop off any part of the character's profile, either vertically or horizontally. This may be fairly minor, but I'd like to see the image reuploaded with a wider crop, paying mind not to crop anything off vertically (there is small part at the top where his horns have been cropped, and quite a bit at the bottom) and including his entire frame horizontally. From there we have the artistry to make those speech bubbles go away. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:54, January 6, 2020 (UTC)
    • Unfortunately, that's the best shot we have of him in the comic. The others are too small, and one even goes over a panel. Shayanomer (talk) 06:28, January 7, 2020 (UTC)
    • I've uploaded a slightly wider shot, but you can see how there are basically no other options. Shayanomer (talk) 06:36, January 7, 2020 (UTC)
      • You misunderstand. I don't want you to upload a different image. This image is fine. I just want it to be wider still. You don't need to crop off any part of his body, even his arms. Show all of him. There's no reason why this image needs to be cropped/zoomed in at all. It's plenty big. Please go back and re-crop it to show his entire frame. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 04:25, January 8, 2020 (UTC)
        • Ah, it's wider now. Sorry for the mixup. Shayanomer (talk) 13:55, January 8, 2020 (UTC)
          • Perfect. Now please send it off to Brules or Culator or someone who has the skills to make those speech bubbles go away. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:25, January 8, 2020 (UTC)
            • I've dropped a message on Brules' page, awaiting a response. Shayanomer (talk) 03:21, January 9, 2020 (UTC)
              • Done. What do you think? Shayanomer (talk) 18:49, January 9, 2020 (UTC)
                • Spookywilloww was kind enough to edit out the bubble. Issue should be resolved now hopefully. Shayanomer (talk) 13:49, January 10, 2020 (UTC)
  • Building on the previous objection, it's unnecessary to use the same image the infobox picture comes from in the Bio. There are enough other images of the character to use something fresh. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:39, January 8, 2020 (UTC)
    • Done. Shayanomer (talk) 03:29, January 9, 2020 (UTC)
      • There's still a better option. I would recommend the panel where Valance and Wef are standing next to each other, where Wef says, "What are you doing?" Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:20, January 10, 2020 (UTC)
        • That's the one that stretches over the panel. Would that still be suitable? Shayanomer (talk) 07:01, January 11, 2020 (UTC)
          • Yes, that's perfectly fine. Just crop it above their heads at a point so it looks good. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 07:05, January 11, 2020 (UTC)

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Krypder Riders

  • Nominated by: Ben sc01t (talk) 19:09, January 8, 2020 (UTC)
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  1. ACvote Nice work. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 09:35, January 21, 2020 (UTC)
  2. Fan26 (Talk) 15:33, January 21, 2020 (UTC)
  3. Shayanomer (talk) 15:48, January 21, 2020 (UTC)

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Shayanomer
  • Dallenor's article states the planet is in the Mid Rim, but this info could also be added to this page to provide context for the planet.
  • The leader of the pirates can be mentioned in the very first sentence of the bio. Shayanomer (talk) 10:51, January 11, 2020 (UTC)
Fan
  • Do you think it would be possible to narrow the date from after 32 BBY to between 32 and 22 BBY? The comic looks to take place before Attack of the Clones given that Anakin is clearly young here. Fan26 (Talk) 14:42, January 12, 2020 (UTC)
    • It can be placed between 32 BBY and about 29 BBY (or around then), as its before the Obi/Anakin miniseries by Charles Soule. In this this interview with Charles Soule on SW.com he says 'What we see in this story is an adventure that takes place about three years after Phantom Menace, give or take. Anakin's around 12 or 13 years old' --Lewisr (talk) 14:55, January 12, 2020 (UTC)
      • Cool, thank you Lewis. So it should be placed between 32 and around 29 BBY then. Fan26 (Talk) 15:00, January 12, 2020 (UTC)
        • Does this look better? Ben sc01t (talk) 21:01, January 12, 2020 (UTC)
          • Just chiming in to say Obi-Wan and Anakin 2 says Anakin is 12 years old in the opening crawl, so I'd use that instead of the interview since it's more precise. You'll want to explain how you got the 29 BBY date too. Star Wars: Rogue One: The Ultimate Visual Guide says Anakin was born 41 years earlier and Star Wars: Galactic Atlas gives the 0 BBY date for the mission to steal the Death Star plans in the movie, so a quick explanation of the math should do the trick. Toqgers (talk) 22:34, January 12, 2020 (UTC)
            • Done. Ben sc01t (talk) 07:32, January 13, 2020 (UTC)
              • I think you should clean up the bit explaining the 30 BBY date based off of Obi-Wan and Anakin. It's currently mostly one long, run-on sentence (from "The latter series..." to "in the movie as 0 BBY.") that just lists the various sources that provide the various dates from which the comic's date range between 32 and 30 BBY can be determined. I reccomend you try to split this up and explain the math that provides 30 BBY. Fan26 (Talk) 14:34, January 13, 2020 (UTC)
                • Rearranged and explained the math. Ben sc01t (talk) 19:55, January 13, 2020 (UTC)
                  • Is there anything I've missed? Ben sc01t (talk) 07:00, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
                    • Sorry I'm only just getting back to this. Fan26 (Talk) 15:33, January 21, 2020 (UTC)
Anil
  • I think you can create an Equipment section, detailing the pirates' common gear, like their swords, outfits, that weird-looking mount, etc.
  • The comic establishes both the pirates and Clatriffe's guards are members of the same bird-like species, which is native to Dallenor. I think you can at least say that the group included members of that species, which would warrant the creation of Unidentified species (Dallenor). TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 00:07, January 21, 2020 (UTC)
  • (Reviewing note) Please use underscores instead of spaces when formatting file names. "File:Krypder_Riders_AoROWK.png" instead of "File:Krypder Riders AoROWK.png," for example.
  • (Reviewing note) Per the Layout Guide, "image caption punctuation (i.e., a full stop, or period) is determined by whether the caption uses a complete sentence." Example: "Luke Skywalker, Jedi Knight" does not receive a full stop, whereas "Luke Skywalker was a Jedi Knight." does. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 00:22, January 21, 2020 (UTC)

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Chokeroot

  • Nominated by: —spookywillowwtalk 00:25, January 11, 2020 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:The first CA of mine that came back to bite.

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  1. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 09:09, January 20, 2020 (UTC)

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Stalker

  • Nominated by: Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 21:32, January 11, 2020 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Wrote this up a little while ago but never got around to nominating it. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 21:32, January 11, 2020 (UTC)

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  1. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 22:39, January 14, 2020 (UTC)
  2. Shayanomer (talk) 19:17, January 20, 2020 (UTC)

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CC-8
  • I think the fact that this ship is the first thing to appear in the film after the opening crawl is notable enough to be highlighted in the bts.
    • Added.
  • I rewatched the scene from Empire and I'm not convinced that the droids being in hyperdrive pods can be sourced to the film, unless there's some other scene I'm forgetting. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 14:04, January 14, 2020 (UTC)
    • Yeah that's a good point. Created ref note. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 18:05, January 14, 2020 (UTC)
Shayanomer
  • I think the name "Death Squadron" needs a ref note of its own, since the name isn't used in the film. Shayanomer (talk) 08:50, January 20, 2020 (UTC)
    • I don't think that's necessary, it's a precedent for subjects such as organisations and ships that aren't named in films and stuff not to need their own ref note explaining where they got the name. It's just unnecessary for this article to have that ref note. The Project Swarm ref note only exists to establish the Stalker's affiliation to it, and not the name itself. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 18:39, January 20, 2020 (UTC)
      • Ah, so it's like Massassi Group then, which wasn't named until Rebels. Shayanomer (talk) 18:52, January 20, 2020 (UTC)
        • The first canon source for the name is probably the old databank. But yes, it wasn't named in ESB. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 19:00, January 20, 2020 (UTC)

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Sinker (smuggler)

  • Nominated by: Toqgers (talk) 02:10, January 13, 2020 (UTC)
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  1. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 00:40, January 18, 2020 (UTC)

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CC-8
  • Really good stuff, only got a couple of small things. In the bio the phrase "Sinker was a male smuggler" can't be sourced to the Reader's companion.
  • Should mention that Talon Karrde was a fellow criminal or something more specific when he's first mentioned in the bio. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 13:23, January 14, 2020 (UTC)
    • How is it now? Toqgers (talk) 19:08, January 17, 2020 (UTC)

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Safwan

  • Nominated by: —spookywillowwtalk 01:00, January 15, 2020 (UTC)
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Unidentified Clan Rook warrior

  • Nominated by: –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 18:32, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: This is my first, and likely will be my only, GAN. I look forward to hearing from other users about it.

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Shayanomer
  • Needs a "Personality and Traits" section. Here, you need to describe the character's features. You can also add the fact that she stood with Bo-Katan against the Empire.
  • I added it, but I'd like more feedback on it.
  • Looks good now.
  • She is very clearly a human here, so add that to the species.
  • Added.
  • I don't think "Clan Rook" needs a category if there's currently only one article that has it.
  • I'm not sure what to say here. Yes, this is the only canon article, but there are three legends articles in that category.
  • Guess we can leave it at that.
  • You're missing an archival link for the episode's BTS gallery, which should also be added to the "Sources" section.
  • Done.
  • I added the archive date for the DB entry too, as well as the archive link in the actual reference to the BTS gallery. Shayanomer (talk) 07:49, January 20, 2020 (UTC)
  • Shorten the image caption and make sure it doesn't move the heading below.
  • Fixed.
  • IMDB is not a credible source. It's also a wiki since it can be edited by anyone. Shayanomer (talk) 18:46, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
  • Replaced source. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 23:26, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
  • You should add a little more info about when the Great Purge took place and how it fragmented Mandalorians as a whole. Shayanomer (talk) 07:49, January 20, 2020 (UTC)
Editoronthewiki
  • I think you should put what the credits call her in the behind the scenes section
  • Done.
  • The credits identified the voice actress, so I think you could just link to the episode as the source instead of IMDB--Editoronthewiki (talk) 19:13, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
  • The article currently uses the episode to source that information. IMDb was only used to verify the fact she was a sound mixer (source updated per above). –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 23:26, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
Zed
  • It is discouraged to begin introductions with "this," try reword the sentence to avoid doing so.
  • Fixed.
  • I feel like the context for prior and later events is somewhat awkwardly placed at the end of the Biography. The mention of the mission to Mandalore should be placed before any description of events that happened after it.
  • I re-worded that section.
  • "She was also seen" feels too out-of-universe. You can just say that at the time of joining the Mandalore resistance, she was wearing that armor. Zed42 (talk) 19:58, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
  • I cleaned that up. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 23:26, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
Ruiz
  • Is there any reason why the Mandalorian Vambraces entry is mentioned in the sources? I don't see any direct or indirect mention to this individual
  • Removed.
  • The Skywalker Sound link needs an archive link as well.--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 22:22, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
    Added. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 23:33, January 19, 2020 (UTC)

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Csilla

  • Nominated by: Toqgers (talk) 01:14, January 20, 2020 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: 186 words now for the body!

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  1. LordMominutiae (talk) 01:21, January 20, 2020 (UTC)

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  • Not sure nominating this right now is a good idea since the Thrawn Ascendancy novels will explore the Chiss Ascendancy, which will most likely include Csilla as well. Shayanomer (talk) 07:23, January 20, 2020 (UTC)


Unidentified Wookiee base (shipyard)

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Zek Peiro

  • Nominated by: RattsT (talk) 23:01, January 20, 2020 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:My first nomination! Let me know how to improve please!

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Spooky
  • Hi, welcome to the GAN. To start, he would need an Equipment section detailing his clothes and the holstered blaster he's got.
    • Added. I don't think his blaster is a named model, but I could be wrong. RattsT (talk) 23:41, January 20, 2020 (UTC)
  • Coruscant being a planet can't be sourced to the comic, and would need an additional reference note.
    • Sourced. RattsT (talk) 23:41, January 20, 2020 (UTC)
  • In Skills, it would be worth mentioning his thievery skills and adeptness with blaster combat.
    • Added. RattsT (talk) 23:41, January 20, 2020 (UTC)
  • I think the P&T could be expanded to further detail his personality, in his interactions with others we see.—spookywillowwtalk 23:12, January 20, 2020 (UTC)
    • Added. RattsT (talk) 23:41, January 20, 2020 (UTC)
  • 'By 32 BBY' in infobox exclusive; that could be worked into the body.
    • Added. RattsT (talk) 01:51, January 21, 2020 (UTC)
  • There's still a page or two of Maul being reprimanded for Peiro's death, which should be noted.—spookywillowwtalk 01:30, January 21, 2020 (UTC)
    • Added a Legacy subsection. RattsT (talk) 01:51, January 21, 2020 (UTC)
Shayanomer
  • "Kaitis Cartel" should link to the organization's page in the intro instead of two separate links, see this section on the Manual of Style for details.
  • It would be good to add where the blaster is holstered. Shayanomer (talk) 07:53, January 21, 2020 (UTC)
    • Fixed both. RattsT (talk) 16:56, January 21, 2020 (UTC)

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Crag

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